================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 11:33:00 -0400 Subject: Help Identifying Cards From: Don Rice

Like many of us, I tend to hold on to any oddball I get my hands on as a type card. I finally decided to try to identify cards in my small cache, but I've hit a few dead ends. Can anyone help identify these?

Rizzuto and Averill are blank backs. I suspect the Rizzuto my be cut from schedule put out in the 1940-50s (perhaps by one of the New York newspapers), and I suspect the Averill is a strip card but I can find no similar images. I don't think it's a W560.

The Sewell looks like a single cut from the W463 four-in-one exhibits, BUT .... the back does not match up with images I found of the backs of intact cards. This back looks pretty clean, almost as if it was meant to be a single card. Are there back variations that match up to this and confirm it as a cut single, or is it something else.

Thanks! Don Rice

Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help Identifying Cards [1 Attachment] From: Andy Huntoon Hi Don The Averill is a 1929 Red Background Game Card. You can find the set along with other cards in the set on Oldcardboard.com in the w-cards section. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Don Rice dkrice@twc.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from Don Rice included below] > Like many of us, I tend to hold on to any oddball I get my hands on as a type card. I finally decided to try to identify cards in my small cache, but I've hit a few dead ends. Can anyone help identify these? > Rizzuto and Averill are blank backs. I suspect the Rizzuto my be cut fromschedule put out in the 1940-50s (perhaps by one of the New York newspapers), and I suspect the Averill is a strip card but I can find no similar images. I don't think it's a W560. > The Sewell looks like a single cut from the W463 four-in-one exhibits, BUT .... the back does not match up with images I found of the backs of intact cards. This back looks pretty clean, almost as if it was meant to be a single card. Are there back variations that match up to this and confirm it as a cut single, or is it something else. > Thanks! Don Rice > ================= Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2018 23:52:56 +0000 To: BRIAN Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help Identifying Cards From: Matthew Glidden Hi Don, according to the galleries at OldCardboard.com, Sewell's from the 1929-30 Exhibit 4-on-1 postcards. Luke's the lower-left corner of a card with three other Indians: http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/exhibits/1929-30/1929-30gal.asp Averill's part of this obscure "red background game cards" set from ~1929: http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/red-bg-game-cards/red-bg-game-cards.asp?cardsetID852 Like Earl, some cards show teams the player didn't play for, as called out by the checklist: http://www.oldcardboard.com/w/red-bg-game-cards/red-bg-game-cards-list.asp It's conjecture on my part the red background card maker put all players shown onto NY-based teams, without doing research, because they printed the cards to sell in NYC arcades and amusement parks. They might also have picked names from barnstorming or exhibition rosters, not MLB rosters. On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:50 PM BRIAN familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Earl Averill never played for the NY Giants ( only NL appearance was with > Braves) > Neither did Earl Jr. > I=E2=99ve never seen that card or design before... > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *dkrice@twc.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *April 1, 2018 at 10:46 AM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help Identifying Cards > I think the Rizzuto is a cut out from the 1950 Royal Dessert card > http://www.vintagecardprices.com/card-profile/204022/1950-Royal-Desserts-Phil-Rizzuto-11-Baseball-Card-Value-Prices.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Rice dkrice@twc.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Sun, Apr 1, 2018 12:00 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Help Identifying Cards [1 Attachment] > [Attachment(s) <#m_1307529442561686762_aolmail_TopText> from Don Rice > included below] > Like many of us, I tend to hold on to any oddball I get my hands on as a > type card. I finally decided to try to identify cards in my small cache, > but I've hit a few dead ends. Can anyone help identify these? > Rizzuto and Averill are blank backs. I suspect the Rizzuto my be cut from > schedule put out in the 1940-50s (perhaps by one of the New York > newspapers), and I suspect the Averill is a strip card but I can find no > similar images. I don't think it's a W560. > The Sewell looks like a single cut from the W463 four-in-one exhibits, BUT > .... the back does not match up with images I found of the backs of intact > cards. This back looks pretty clean, almost as if it was meant to be a > single card. Are there back variations that match up to this and confirm it > as a cut single, or is it something else. > Thanks! Don Rice ================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 21:04:15 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: April fools From: Rick Lyons Every year someone tries to pull one how come nobody this year? Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 06:39:16 -0400 To: yahoogroups Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] April fools From: Ken M "That's exactly what they'll be expecting." -Maxwell Smart 😂 Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Rick Lyons rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2018 12:06 AMTo: yahoogroups;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] April fools ================= Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:54:27 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL From: Matthew Glidden Hi guys, I rarely see 1960 Darigold singles listed for non-crazy prices. Is $45 now =E2=9Creasonable=E2=9D for that set? Anyone bought one recently? https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mprehttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282908521916 ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 08:19:46 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL From: "Grant Rainsley" Spike- I=E2=99m not sure it is specific to a single issue=E2=A6..it seems Pacific Coast League items generally have increased dramatically over the last few years=E2=A6=E2=A6..the 1967 Chevron Vancouver Mounties have really been moving on Ebay recently, $200-$300 each. Maybe our resident PCL expert Mr. Fallen might chip in here with his observations=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: April 2, 2018 4:54 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL Hi guys, I rarely see 1960 Darigold singles listed for non-crazy prices. Is$45 now =E2=9Creasonable=E2=9D for that set? Anyone bought one recently? https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mprehttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282908521916 This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 10:26:38 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL From: Ken M Spike, That auction is for two cards, neither of which I have ever heard of before. The seller is in Lowell, MA though. Must be the steep PCL import fees 😕 Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2018 8:01 AMTo: obc ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL Hi guys, I rarely see 1960 Darigold singles listed for non-crazy prices. Is $45 now “reasonable” for that set? Anyone bought one recently? https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282908521916 ================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 07:31:21 -0700 (PDT) To: Matthew Glidden , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL From: MARK MACRAE MIME-Version: 1.0 It's really not that out of line. The unusual tear along the top is from the removal of a blank"tab" and is typically encountered. Darigolds have never been common, although the '60's are encountered more frequently than '59.More important there just haven't been too many brought into the hobby recently (from outside sources) so you tend to see the same cards circulating.Hope this helps.....Mark > On April 2, 2018 at 4:54 AM "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Hi guys, I rarely see 1960 Darigold singles listed for non-crazy prices. Is $45 now =E2=9Creasonable=E2=9D for that set? Anyone bought onerecently? > https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mprehttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282908521916 > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2018 14:54:33 +0000 To: MARK MACRAE Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL From: Matthew Glidden Thanks everyone, I decided to spring for the pair of cards, in part to have a 1960 Darigold type to swap (someday) for the #5. :-) On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:31 AM MARK MACRAE wrote: > Spike, > It's really not that out of line. The unusual tear along the top is from > the removal of a blank"tab" and is typically encountered. Darigolds have > never been common, although the '60's are encountered more frequently than > '59. More important there just haven't been too many brought into the hobby > recently (from outside sources) so you tend to see the same cards > circulating. Hope this helps.....Mark > On April 2, 2018 at 4:54 AM "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Hi guys, I rarely see 1960 Darigold singles listed for non-crazy prices. > Is $45 now =E2=9Creasonable=E2=9D for that set? Anyone bought one recently? > https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mprehttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F282908521916 > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 18:09:28 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Thanks to Ken Morganti From: Robert Fitts A super BIG thanks to Ken for sending along a 1969 Bobby Bonds Rooki. I=E2=99ve been looking for one at the right price for years with no luck. THANKS!!! Rob fitts ================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 21:27:46 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1912 imperial c46 From: Anthony Met a person on Facebook and he is collecting this set. He has Sam Frock. Fair-Good Lmk if anyone is interested and I can connect you Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2018 21:40:48 -0400 To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1912 imperial c46 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I am not sure whom besides Andy Cook and myself are working on the C46 set.Andy has about 18 of them and I have 10. We both need #13 Frock. Feel free to connect both of us with him. I do not have any C46 dupes. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Apr 2, 2018 9:28 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1912 imperial c46 Met a person on Facebook and he is collecting this set. He has Sam Frock. Fair-Good Lmk if anyone is interested and I can connect you Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 07:58:06 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: Lot of Approx. 5000 1979 OPC O-Pee-Chee Baseball Cards From: Rick Lyons This is my split lot of the day. If enough people want to start a 79 OPC set you can pool your money and split it up. And an offer option too. Rick Look at this on eBay Lot of Approx. 5000 1979 OPC O-Pee-Chee Baseball Cards Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:25:24 -0400 To: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lot of Approx. 5000 1979 OPC O-Pee-Chee Baseball Cards From: Yahoo I would be in. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:58, Rick Lyons rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > This is my split lot of the day. If enough people want to start a 79 OPC set you can pool your money and split it up. And an offer option too. Rick > Look at this on eBay > Lot of Approx. 5000 1979 OPC O-Pee-Chee Baseball Cards > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:44:23 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1912 imperial c46 From: Dave Fallen Brian Lindholme also collects C46s but he does not need #13. Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ================= Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:48:14 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Question about pricing for 1960 Darigold PCL From: Dave Fallen Thanks Grant, but Mark is the real PCL expert. I do know enough that I would have not hesitated had I seen it first. Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 22:17:42 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Crazy WS coincidences! From: Sean McGowan So, Joel Freedman sends me 4 cards, including 2 WS cards... one from game 7 in '62 (yanks v. Giants) and one from game 4 in '73 (mets v. Oakland A's)... My wheels got turning, and I thought... Willie Mays was in both these games! Alas, he was at the '73 series as a Met, but didn't get into game 4, so his name is not on the card... but I did find this.... In game 7 in '62 Felipe Alou played RF, and Matty Alou pinch hit in the 9th. Now guess who played RF for Oakland in game 4 of '73... I know you already guessed... Jesus Alou! Funny thing is, the Alous were a combined 1-9 in the 2 games... Jesus and Felipe were both 0-4, only Matty got a weak bunt single to lead off the 9th in '62. But he didn't score. That game 7 in '62 was 1-0. Mose Skowron scored the only run on a double play ball in the 5th. Crazy stuff. Thanks Joel. Now everyone go to bed! ================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 19:59:48 -0700 To: Bob Chapman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lot of Approx. 5000 1979 OPC O-Pee-Chee Baseball Cards From: Rick Lyons I see it sold did anyone pick it up? under .05 a card thought it was a gooddeal. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 3, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Bob Chapman wrote: > If it's split up, say 4 ways, how would you do that? Would there be a chance one person might end up with 6 or 7 of one guy, and the other 3 not getany of that card? Or by sets? Or? Interested. > Bob Chapman > On Tuesday, April 3, 2018, 10:25:49 AM CDT, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I would be in. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 10:58, Rick Lyons rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> This is my split lot of the day. If enough people want to start a 79 OPCset you can pool your money and split it up. And an offer option too. Rick >> Look at this on eBay >> Lot of Approx. 5000 1979 OPC O-Pee-Chee Baseball Cards >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 04:08:52 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Who had Nova? From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- I can't find my NCAA email...who do I owe for the Villanova win? ================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 11:31:39 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: 1951 BOWMAN #165 TED WILLIAMS POOR From: Rick Lyons Here=E2=99s my OBC conditioned card of the day and ends today it has to be on some lists. Rick Look at this on eBay 1951 BOWMAN #165 TED WILLIAMS POOR Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 23:01:26 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who had Nova? From: Geno Wagner Somebody knows the answer to this...fess' up!! On Tuesday, April 3, 2018, 10:08:59 PM MDT, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Fellas -- I can't find my NCAA email...who do I owe for the Villanova win? ================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:16:36 -0400 To: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who had Nova? From: Andy Huntoon I know it wasn=E2=99t me Geno, if that helps. =9C Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Somebody knows the answer to this...fess' up!! > On Tuesday, April 3, 2018, 10:08:59 PM MDT, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Fellas -- > I can't find my NCAA email...who do I owe for the Villanova win? > Thanks! > Geno ================= Date: 04 Apr 2018 23:53:46 +0000 To: Subject: Any decent card shops in Arlington VA? From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 01:01:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any decent card shops in Arlington VA? From: Taylor Schock And now for something to really ponder, or make you say dang-it-all-dear-can-we-stay-until-Saturday? http://csashows.com/?page_id1792 autograph show geo1 | , geo1 | athlete signing, geo1 For information about autograph show in geo1, call us today! CSA Shows From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:53 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any decent card shops in Arlington VA? My wife and I are in DC through Friday morning, and she has consented to let me stop by a card shop or two in Arlington- if there are any worth stopping in. Anyone from the area have any recommendations? ================= To: yahoogroups , Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2018 21:23:23 -0500 Subject: 70s TCMA type cards wanted From: mark zentkovich I just posted on my want list a list of the TCMA cards I am looking for a type card for. The list is not final, but is a good start Any help appreciated. Thanks, mark zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 07:36:11 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: for you Yaz collectors From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net A Transogram Yaz for $20 from Chandy https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Transogram-Carl-Yastrzemski-off-grade-staple-marks-OBC/382428599539?hash=item590a8554f3:g:KkoAAOSwZshaxSU6 ================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 08:24:08 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Any decent card shops in Arlington VA? From: Andy Cook In the 90s there were two good stores in Arlington, but they=E2=99re both long gone. There=E2=99s a store in Annandale, but it=E2=99s all UV and the small amount of vintage is terribly overpriced. This weekend=E2=99s show at the Chantilly Expo Center is typically good, but it=E2=99s a 30-40 minute drive from Arlington. Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:19:02 +0000 Subject: Final OBC NCAA tournament results From: Bob Reed Congratulations to Villanova and Doug DeJong for winning the 16th annual OBC NCAA tournament. Below are the final results. In addition to Doug you'll find the other people you owe in parenthesis after your teams. NAME RECORD TEAMS Doug Dejong 10-3 E1 Vill / S9 KSU (JSG), M16 Penn (JSG), W8 Missouri(John John Scott Gray 9-4 E8 Va Tech (Bob), S11 Loyola (Greg), M1 Kansas (Doug), W14 Mont (Greg) John Stamper 7-5 E2 Purdue (Peter/Mike R), S16 UNBC (Doug), M7 URI (Mac), W9 FSU (Greg) Joel Freedman 6-4 E5 WVU (Doug), S13 Buff (Bob), M12 NM St. (Taylor),W4 Gonz (John S) Mac Wubben 6-4 E15 CSUF (John S), S7 Nev (JSG), M2 Duke (JSG), W10Prov Greg Henthorn 7-6 E6 Fla (Peter/Mike R), S15 Ga St (Geno), M10 Okla (John S/Jake), W3 Mich (Doug) Bob Reed 4-4 E9 Ala (Doug), S5 Kent (Doug), M4 Auburn (Taylor), W16 Tex So (TJ) Geno Wagner 4-4 E12 Murr St. (Joel), S2 Cincy (Mac), M13 Charleston(Bob), W7 Tex A&M (Greg) Larry Gersbach 3-4 E7 Ark (TJ), S14 Wright St. (Richard), M11 Syar (Mac), W2 UNC (Geno) Peter Mead 3-4 E3 Tex Tech (Doug), S12 Davidson (Bob), M6 TCU (Gersh), W13 UNCG (Joel) Mike Rich 3-4 E3 Tex Tech (Doug), S6 Mia (JSG), M12 NM St. (Taylor), W13 UNCG (Joel) Richard Labs 3-4 E16 Radford (Doug), S3 Tenn (JSG), M9 NC St (Mark),W6 Houston (Greg) Taylor Schock 3-5 E4 Wich St (Mark), S10 Tex (Mac), M5 Clemson (JSG),W15 Lip (Gersh/Jake) Jake Elwell 2-4 E11 St.Bon. (Greg), S14 Wright St (Richard), M7 URI(Mac), W2 UNC (Geno) T J Valacak 2-4 E10 Butler (John S), S8 Creighton (Doug), M15 Iona (Mac), W1 Xavier (John S) Mark Talbot 2-4 E13 Marshall (Joel), S1 UVA (John S), M8 Seton Hall(JSG), W12 S Dak St (Jay) Jay Tysver 1-4 E11 St.Bon (Greg), S4 Ariz (Joel), M14 Bucknell (Mike G), W5 OSU (Joel) Mike Glasser 1-5 E14 SFA (Peter/Mike R), S6 Mia (JSG), M3 Mich St (Gersh), W11 SD St (Richard) ================= Date: 05 Apr 2018 18:07:42 +0000 To: Subject: Nice OBC card! From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 18:38:49 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nice OBC card! From: Geno Wagner I love the question in the FAQ...."Is this a stock photo?" Haha!! On Thursday, April 5, 2018, 12:07:48 PM MDT, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: This is beautiful. Nice OBC edition. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-45-Richie-Ashburn-Philadelphia-Phillies-Baseball-Card/232666663916?hashitem362c038bec:m:mfkSPhBBEpT4wt22Xj4bGbw ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 15:54:49 -0500 Subject: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: mark zentkovich Remember the =E2old days=E2=99 when we used ONLY or MOSTLY paper want I wanted to throw this out there to the AC, or to membership in general to comment. Are there collectors out there who are like us, but have not (and will not)learned the computer skills necessary to maintain web pages of want lists? I wonder if we are missing out on a part of the vintage collector base thatwe could help enjoy our kind of =E2trading=E2=99, but maybe they are paired up with a friend who could maintain an online list for their friend along the way? Just a thought. Thanks ,mark zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:16:18 -0400 To: mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Doug DeJong Interesting thought. I notice at card shows A LOT of vintage collectors using completely paper handwritten want lists. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2018, at 4:54 PM, mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Remember the =E2old days=E2=99 when we used ONLY or MOSTLY paperwant > I wanted to throw this out there to the AC, or to membership in general to > Are there collectors out there who are like us, but have not (and will not) learned the computer skills necessary to maintain web pages of want lists? > I wonder if we are missing out on a part of the vintage collector base that we could help enjoy our kind of =E2trading=E2=99, but maybe they are paired up with a friend who could maintain an online list for their friend along the way? > Just a thought. > Thanks ,mark zentkovich > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:52:07 -0400 To: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Jimi Thayer I see paper lists at shows a lot! In my mind it=E2=99s more effective. I=E2=99ve used my phone and it=E2=99s not worked very well. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 5, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Interesting thought. I notice at card shows A LOT of vintage collectors using completely paper handwritten want lists. > Doug > Sent from my iPad >> On Apr 5, 2018, at 4:54 PM, mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Remember the =E2old days=E2=99 when we used ONLY or MOSTLY paper want lists? >> I wanted to throw this out there to the AC, or to membership in general to >> Are there collectors out there who are like us, but have not (and will not) learned the computer skills necessary to maintain web pages of want lists? >> I wonder if we are missing out on a part of the vintage collector base that we could help enjoy our kind of =E2trading=E2=99, but maybe they are paired up with a friend who could maintain an online list for their friend along the way? >> Just a thought. >> Thanks ,mark zentkovich >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 00:05:52 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 1971 topps baseball gremlin From: John Dahms Putting my Clemente into its spot the other day and did the quick check forgremlins. Found that card 591 norm cash was hoping someone might have one I could trade for or ds Thanks for the read John Dahms 310 E. Addison St. Jackson Mi 49203 ================= To: yahoogroups , mark zentkovich Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 01:35:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Taylor Schock I see this quite a bit as well (as others have noted). And quite a few at Kurt's table, so maybe.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 4:54 PM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? Remember the =91old days=92 when we used ONLY or MOSTLY paper want lists? I wanted to throw this out there to the AC, or to membership in general to comment. Are there collectors out there who are like us, but have not (and will not)learned the computer skills necessary to maintain web pages of want lists? I wonder if we are missing out on a part of the vintage collector base thatwe could help enjoy our kind of =91trading=92, but maybe they are paired up with a friend who could maintain an online list for their friend along the Just a thought. Thanks ,mark zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows ================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 20:17:32 -0700 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Rick Lyons I agree I don=E2=99t think in all cases they are tied together but agreethere probably is old farts like us that collect cards and don=E2=99t use a computer. A fair amount of people I see use paper lists at shows too so to answer Mark=E2=99s question you would have to figure out which onesuse it because they think it=E2=99s easier or the only form they use. I use my iPad and have many people comment you have your lists on that? That=E2=99s pretty smart I didn=E2=99t think of that. I pull up a bunch of different pages and leave them up in case I can=E2=99t get internet at the show but most use their phones. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I see this quite a bit as well (as others have noted). And quite a few atKurt's table, so maybe.... > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 4:54 PM > To: yahoogroups > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? > Remember the =E2old days=E2=99 when we used ONLY or MOSTLY paperwant > I wanted to throw this out there to the AC, or to membership in general to > Are there collectors out there who are like us, but have not (and will not) learned the computer skills necessary to maintain web pages of want lists? > I wonder if we are missing out on a part of the vintage collector base that we could help enjoy our kind of =E2trading=E2=99, but maybe they are paired up with a friend who could maintain an online list for their friend along the way? > Just a thought. > Thanks ,mark zentkovich > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 03:37:48 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 71 topps error From: John Dahms Mark Z pointed out an error i made. I need card 599. Norm cash. Thanks if you can help John Dahms 310 E. Addison St. Jackson Mi 49203 ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 10:28:45 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Washington DC Trip? From: Bob Donaldson I'm on vacation in late May and want to take a trip for 3-4 days between Sat May 19 and Thur May 24. Currently thinking of Nova Scotia or Washington DC. One advantage of DC is the possibility of meeting up with OBCers. If I go I will either stay downtown or near a Metro station, and likely try and hit at least one Nationals game. Anyone up for attending a game? The are home 5/19 thru 5/23? If not that, dinner or even lunch, if you are easy to get to? Also, open for suggestions of where to stay. ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 15:23:33 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 1978 Close Encounters Available and one need From: Dan Angland Hey Guys,I picked up a nice starter lot off of evilbay and have many duplicates and even a starter set available.Please send me your want list with your address. Also, if anyone has an extra #63 laying around you can be a hero and kill that set for me. Thanks, have an OBC day!Dan Angland ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 11:16:01 -0500 Subject: thanks to sanker From: mark zentkovich Thanks to: Steve Sanker for 61 T Haywood Sullivan Thank you for the 61 help, steve, much appreciated! Mark Zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 10:46:18 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Dave Fallen I'm an old fart (73) that finds electronic lists much handier than paper ones. My wants are in a sqlite database and I can retrieve items in various ways (I wrote the program to use the db). I also have T206 program (whichI also wrote) that includes pictures of every card so I can tell if a particular card is one I don't have or need to upgrade. It is great always having my want list with me on my smartphone. It has been handy several timeswhen I have unexpectedly run across something out in the wild. Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 13:54:27 -0400 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Bob Donaldson It might be a nice idea to have a one page paper flyer for OBC, going over who we are and how to apply. We could all print copies and distribute at local shows. On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:35 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I see this quite a bit as well (as others have noted). And quite a few at > Kurt's table, so maybe.... > Regards, > Taylor > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 5, 2018 4:54 PM > *To:* yahoogroups > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? > Remember the =E2old days=E2=99 when we used ONLY or MOSTLY paperwant > I wanted to throw this out there to the AC, or to membership in general to > comment. > Are there collectors out there who are like us, but have not (and will > not) learned the computer skills necessary to maintain web pages of want > lists? > I wonder if we are missing out on a part of the vintage collector base > that we could help enjoy our kind of =E2trading=E2=99, but maybethey are paired > up with a friend who could maintain an online list for their friend along > the way? > Just a thought. > Thanks ,mark zentkovich > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 15:08:04 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Washington DC Trip? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Not sure how you are planning on traveling, but that weekend is the sameweekend as the Robert Morris show that this year will be held in Monroeville, PA. It is about an extra hour drive compared to going to DC for you. You could do the show on Saturday/Sunday, and then drive 4 hours to get to DC for the next few days. Last year, I believe Ron Perry, Ed Schott, Anson Whaley and myself were the OBCers at the Robert Morris show. While you are not likely available, Ron and I went to the Pirates game on Friday nite the last 2 years. They do have nite games on Friday and Saturday as well as a day game on Sunday, this year. PNC Park is one of the nicest parks in BB. Ron and I have not yet discussed our attendance or plans for this year's show. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 6, 2018 10:28 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Washington DC Trip? I'm on vacation in late May and want to take a trip for 3-4 days between Sat May 19 and Thur May 24. Currently thinking of Nova Scotia or Washington DC. One advantage of DC is the possibility of meeting up with OBCers. If I go I will either stay downtown or near a Metro station, and likely tryand hit at least one Nationals game. Anyone up for attending a game? Theare home 5/19 thru 5/23? If not that, dinner or even lunch, if you are easy to get to? Also, open for suggestions of where to stay. ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 18:10:52 -0400 To: duph182@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 1978 Close Encounters Available and one need From: Mike Glasser #63 is on the way. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Angland duph182@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] To: OBC Ramblings ; OBC Wants Sent: Fri, Apr 6, 2018 11:23 am Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] 1978 Close Encounters Available and one need Hey Guys, I picked up a nice starter lot off of evilbay and have many duplicates and even a starter set available. Please send me your want list with your address. Also, if anyone has an extra #63 laying around you can be a hero and kill that set for me. Thanks, have an OBC day! Dan Angland ================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 17:52:32 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: Variations From: Rick Lyons I don=E2=99t know if this is known since I don=E2=99t really collect variations and for me I don=E2=99t consider it a variation anyway but I know most of you do. Back of 1968 Topps football blue sky versus green sky fronts looked the same. Rick ================= Date: 07 Apr 2018 01:24:18 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver Wire From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 09:52:09 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Wayne Delia I've been meaning to chime in on this subject. I'm new on the OBC/AC (this year, anyway) and have been pulling together a few ideas about where we want to go, membership-wise. Right now we're showing 135 active members. Do we push for more, many more, keep it about the same, or contract ourselves through attrition? The "pro's" of more members include more want lists (for us) to hit, more dupes (from the new members) to distribute, more bargaining power with OBC Certified Dealers, and easier to recruit/add more OBC Certified Dealers. The "con's" are we become like a too-big fraternity, we'll eventually reach a point where there are too many unfamiliar names and faces, and we'll lose the camaraderie. I would welcome your input either here or directly to my email, wayne.m.delia@gmail.com. That being said, accommodating "computer challenged vintage collectors" is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea. Seriously. Many years ago, we were approached by someone who loved the core mission of OBC, loved the idea of collecting and trading old beat-up cards, but for whatever reason, he had no computer. What he proposed to do was to make a handwritten copy of his want list, send it to maybe three or four of us, and he expected us out of the goodness of our hearts to somehow distribute it to all the other members. It didn't take too long to realize that wasn't going to work. Many of us would be sending him the same cards off his want list, which would get out of date really quick. Multiply that by however many snail-mail hard-copy computer challenged collectors we recruit, and it gets to be an unmanageable mess exponentially quickly. We have a method to store want lists on the local OBC server, and a rudimentary editor (it works, but it ain't too pretty just yet) with which you can update your want lists. Online want lists, either stored locally or somewhere else, can be called up and read at card shows easily. If we need to, we can look into getting what's called a WYSIWYG editor for custom web sites (it stands for "What You See Is What You Get") - but the point is, we're computer-based, database-based, and email-based, and that's the way we've been doing business now for more than a quarter century. Ordinarily, the argument of "we've always done it that way" is a business fallacy preventing progress, but the alternative here is a technological step backwards. I strongly recommend, strongly, in the strongest possible terms, a strong "no" to anyone who proposes we do that. ================= To: Wayne Delia , Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 09:28:28 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: mark zentkovich Hello Wayne. Thanks for your well thought out reply. As for the group size, I kind of like 125-175 area. I like seeing 5-10 new members a year. 20 in a year would be growing too fast (to me anyway). We have gained a few awesome members (past few years) in our net54 ads and am glad for that. Since I play in the 70s mostly past couple of years, it is easier for me tohit new members lists, although some guys start new sports in 70s or new 2nd sets and such.. As for my idea in the subject line, I am not sure if it will go anywhere ornot, but I was thinking it may be worth testing for a smaller number of 1-5 members with an OBC buddy, only if there is a volunteer to manage that person=E2=99s want list. One of the things that made me think about this is that some of us have a part of our want list that says =E2My friend John=E2=99s 61 Topps set=E2=99 or something like that=E2=A6 Thanks, mark zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 8:58 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? I've been meaning to chime in on this subject.. I'm new on the OBC/AC (this year, anyway) and have been pulling together a few ideas about where we want to go, membership-wise. Right now we're showing 135 active members. Do we push for more, many more, keep it about the same, or contract ourselves through attrition? The "pro's" of more members include more want lists (for us) to hit, more dupes (from the new members) todistribute, more bargaining power with OBC Certified Dealers, and easier to recruit/add more OBC Certified Dealers. The "con's" are we become like a too-big fraternity, we'll eventually reach a point where there are too manyunfamiliar names and faces, and we'll lose the camaraderie. I would welcome your input either here or directly to my email, wayne.m.delia@gmail.com. That being said, accommodating "computer challenged vintage collectors" is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea. Seriously. Many years ago, wewere approached by someone who loved the core mission of OBC, loved the idea of collecting and trading old beat-up cards, but for whatever reason, hehad no computer. What he proposed to do was to make a handwritten copy of his want list, send it to maybe three or four of us, and he expected us out of the goodness of our hearts to somehow distribute it to all the other members. It didn't take too long to realize that wasn't going to work. Many of us would be sending him the same cards off his want list, which would get out of date really quick. Multiply that by however many snail-mail hard-copy computer challenged collectors we recruit, and it gets to be an unmanageable mess exponentially quickly. We have a method to store want lists on the local OBC server, and a rudimentary editor (it works, but it ain't too pretty just yet) with which you canupdate your want lists. Online want lists, either stored locally or somewhere else, can be called up and read at card shows easily. If we need to, wecan look into getting what's called a WYSIWYG editor for custom web sites (it stands for "What You See Is What You Get") - but the point is, we're computer-based, database-based, and email-based, and that's the way we've been doing business now for more than a quarter century. Ordinarily, the argument of "we've always done it that way" is a business fallacy preventing progress, but the alternative here is a technological step backwards. I strongly recommend, strongly, in the strongest possible terms, a strong "no" to anyone who proposes we do that. =0DThis email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com =0D ================= Date: 07 Apr 2018 17:22:15 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 17:32:45 -0400 To: mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? From: Wayne Delia Mark, you've been around forever (as has anyone from the 1990's) - do you remember one of our guys, I think it was Morganti or maybe someone else, spearheading an OBC charity effort to replace many cards in the collection of "The Original" Frank Thomas (from the 1962-1964 Mets, not the Big Hurt) that were lost in a fire? It was a big-hearted thing to do, made more difficult by the fact that Ken or whoever had to broadcast maybe monthly updates to his want list, resulting in a lot of duplicate cards sent to him. There was also some confusion and hard feelings that he ended up selling a lot of the cards we sent him for dirt cheap, don't seem to remember the exact details. We gave it an honest try, and for the admirable purpose, it worked sufficiently well but it was certainly not optimal. My interest in increasing the size of the group is purely mercenary ;) I stop by Dave Estright's table at Valley Forge, White Plains, and the yearly nationals, and he was selling tough cards, Yankees, Dodgers, high numbers, star cards, semi-stars, etc. ranging from Good/VG/EX for a flat 5% of book value, before throwing in a final discount when it's all added up. I told him about OBC, and he now knows quite a few of us, he gets a big kick out of us feeding at the bargain box trough. I told him if he could keep the prices down for us as an OBC Certified Dealer, we would freakin' shovel money at him - and that arrangement has worked out super well for me and others. I've made HUGE strides in the nine sets I'm working on from the late 1950's through 1967. Now we've got about 135 active members, if we can boost the numbers to the higher end of your range, that'll be some kind of extra discount we could negotiate with many of the other OBC Certified dealers, lots of fun at the national and other shows. We've got a great story to tell, and a lot of dealers are glad to see the real collectors are back at the shows instead of the usual dealer network of deep mutual discounts or the kids trying to unload 1980's / 1990's commons at full book I got some great direct feedback from Mark Glasser and Carl Woodrome which I'll respond to as soon as I get a chance. On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 10:28 AM, mark zentkovich wrote: > Hello Wayne. Thanks for your well thought out reply. > As for the group size, I kind of like 125-175 area. > I like seeing 5-10 new members a year. 20 in a year would be growing too > fast (to me anyway). > We have gained a few awesome members (past few years) in our net54 ads and > am glad for that. > Since I play in the 70s mostly past couple of years, it is easier for me > to hit new members lists, although some guys start new sports in 70s or new > 2nd sets and such.. > As for my idea in the subject line, I am not sure if it will go anywhere > or not, but I was thinking it may be worth testing for a smaller number of > 1-5 members with an OBC buddy, only if there is a volunteer to manage that > person=E2=99s want list. > One of the things that made me think about this is that some of us have a > part of our want list that says =E2My friend John=E2=99s 61 Topps set=E2=99 or > something like that=E2=A6 > Thanks, mark zentkovich > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > *From: *Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > *Sent: *Saturday, April 7, 2018 8:58 AM > *To: *OBC Ramblings > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] Re: Computer Challenged Vintage Collectors? > I've been meaning to chime in on this subject.. > I'm new on the OBC/AC (this year, anyway) and have been pulling together a > few ideas about where we want to go, membership-wise. Right now we're > showing 135 active members. Do we push for more, many more, keep it about > the same, or contract ourselves through attrition? The "pro's" of more > members include more want lists (for us) to hit, more dupes (from the new > members) to distribute, more bargaining power with OBC Certified Dealers, > and easier to recruit/add more OBC Certified Dealers. The "con's" are we > become like a too-big fraternity, we'll eventually reach a point where > there are too many unfamiliar names and faces, and we'll lose the > camaraderie. I would welcome your input either here or directly to my > email, wayne.m.delia@gmail.com. > That being said, accommodating "computer challenged vintage collectors" is > a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad idea. Seriously. Many years ago, we > were approached by someone who loved the core mission of OBC, loved the > idea of collecting and trading old beat-up cards, but for whatever reason, > he had no computer. What he proposed to do was to make a handwritten copy > of his want list, send it to maybe three or four of us, and he expected > us out of the goodness of our hearts to somehow distribute it to all the > other members. It didn't take too long to realize that wasn't going to > work. Many of us would be sending him the same cards off his want list, > which would get out of date really quick. Multiply that by however many > snail-mail hard-copy computer challenged collectors we recruit, and it gets > to be an unmanageable mess exponentially quickly. > We have a method to store want lists on the local OBC server, and a > rudimentary editor (it works, but it ain't too pretty just yet) with which > you can update your want lists. Online want lists, either stored locally or > somewhere else, can be called up and read at card shows easily. If we need > to, we can look into getting what's called a WYSIWYG editor for custom web > sites (it stands for "What You See Is What You Get") - but the point is, > we're computer-based, database-based, and email-based, and that's the way > we've been doing business now for more than a quarter century. Ordinarily, > the argument of "we've always done it that way" is a business fallacy > preventing progress, but the alternative here is a technological step > backwards. I strongly recommend, strongly, in the strongest possible terms, > a strong "no" to anyone who proposes we do that. > Best, > WMD > [image: AVG logo] > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > www.avg.com ================= Date: 07 Apr 2018 14:57:01 -0700 To: Subject: Waiver winners From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 18:19:16 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: "SLUMP-BUSTER" card show report From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I=E2=99ve been in a bit of a =E2=9Ccard slump=E2=9D as I=E2=99ve had some expenses come up that cut into the cardboard budget. A couple ofmajor car repair bills with a twist of dental bills on the side. I hope things have quieted down for me, and I broke out in a big way at our monthly card show today! My first stop is always at Freds table to load up on mostly non sports cards: I have officially started the 1954 Quaker Oats =E2=9CSports Oddities=E2=9D set picking up five in the 27 card set to go with the =E2=9CYankee Stadium=E2=9D card I already had. Three hits =E2=9972 Fleer NHRA =E2=9CRACEUSA=E2=9D, =E2=9957 Topps =E2=9CHit Stars=E2=9D the =E2=9CBobbettes=E2=9D then two duplicates the #1 cards 1954 Topps=E2=9CWorld On Wheels=E2=9D and 1933 Goudey =E2=9CIndian Gum=E2=9D always looking for #1 cards! I also picked up some kind of late 1800s trade card with the elephant =E2=9CJumbo=E2=9D which I thought was cool. I also picked up some kind of full set of =E2=9CPresidents=E2=9D cards @1975 VisualPanographics Inc still in the original mail in manilla envelope:) Four exhibit =E2=9CBillboard Singers=E2=9D cards I needed with Dion, Bobby Lee, and Ricky Nelson! Did a quick cruise around the show and met a couple that was setting up forthe first time he is a collector just selling some of his extras. Picked up 13 big hits 1961 Post baseball cards some box some company cards getting tough for me to find hits here. Then a tough 1963 Post #176 Dick Bertell also 1963 Jello #66 Robin Roberts. 1952 Redman hit Early Wynn, 1954 Redman hit Nellie Fox. Also bought sixteen 1962 Salada football coins including a couple of the =E2=9Ctoughies=E2=9D. Next guy had boxes of =E250s-=E2=9C70s cards I didn=E2=99t havethe courage to thumb through, but I did notice he had two 1972 Topps baseball high numbers #754 Frank Robinson =E2=9CTRADED=E2=9D both low grade both marked 40 on the back. On the front one had 10 and one had 5, and I got both of them for $5. If anyone needs 1972 Topps baseball #754 shoot me an email first two responders win:) Next dealer is a regular and he had some 1933 Goudey =E2=9CIndian Gum=E2=9D cards high numbers for $1 each but these are bottom trimmed. I needed five or six and bought the others to send out. Also bought four nice 1938=E2=9CG-Men=E2=9D cards I needed, and two 1950 Topps =E2=9CHopalong Cassidy=E2=9D hits. I almost forgot one of the few 1951 Bowman =E2=9CJets Rockets & Spacemen=E2=9D cards #100 the last card in the set was$5 glad to hand him my cash. Last stop I bought three hits 1954 RedMan Lou Burdette, Mel Parnell and Robin Roberts all three with tabs price was $20 which I didn=E2=99t think was to bad but who knows I might have gotten ripped off. On the way home I stopped at the weekend Flea Market and picked up 14 LPs for $1 each for my growing record collection. Picture posted over on the FaceBook page. How many days until Cleveland? ================= To: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2018 21:50:45 -0400 Subject: Hofstra show From: "Sal Domino" One coming up the weekend of the 21st. Anyone thinking about it? I plan on https://www.nyshows.org/ Wayne, If we could only get George and Dave to go to this one. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/ ================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:56:17 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Fw: Thanks to Glasser, Henthorn and Lyons From: Dan Angland obviously emails to the thanks server are not working for me.Dan ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dan Angland To: OBC Wants Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018, 7:37:29 AM EDTSubject: Fw: Thanks to Glasser, Henthorn and Lyons Looks like a couple of people are having problems with the thank you email? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Dan Angland To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018, 1:12:56 PM EDTSubject: Thanks to Glasser, Henthorn and Lyons Rainy weeks thanks goes out to .. Mike Glasser for 4 wonderful hits to my Hasan Light House series, 4 that included two local ones I have seen first hand, Montauk and Plum Island.Thanks for thinking of me Mike! Rick Lyons finally puts my 77 Charlies Angels set to build. He finishes off that last card I needed for all the series. He pulled the Pistol Packin Angel from his own set for me. Appreciate the sacrifice Rick. Greg Henthorn sends three 54 Bowmans and one 54 Topps, 4 very solid cards Greg, Have an OBC Friday!Dan Angland ================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 13:08:17 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: What to do... what to do? From: Wayne Delia I have a huge organized hoard of hobby-related publications in moderate to crappy condition, and I have no end game strategy for disposing of them. They are potentially not cash-valuable but are definitely information-valuable. Packing and shipping will be a huge postage-intensive effort. Should these be junked / recycled / eBay'd / brought to National / given away? About 1000 assorted issues of Sports Collectors Digest, from the mid 1980's to the mid 2000's, plus maybe 50 modern issues from the past two years.Many of these are the 10x14 inch size, 190-page mega-newspaper weekly issues in the hobby's heyday, with a ton of articles, want ads, and Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen flashing his C-notes. A complete run of Baseball Cards and Sports Cards magazines edited by Lemke and published by Krause Pubilcations, many including the card inserts, some with minor to moderate water damage. Maybe about a dozen book-size and phone-book-size annual Beckett and SCD price guides from years gone by. Please resist the urge to say "I'll take the SCD's" unless you're willing to stop by 3 Carpenter Drive in Poughkeepsie, NY with a minivan (could probably fit them in a large size car). Packing and postage is gonna be a huge headache. Should there be sufficient committed interest, I can attempt to bring some/most/all to the Cleveland National for giveaways, but it'll be your responsibility to transport them home with you. Any advice or suggestions are welcome. ================= Date: 08 Apr 2018 18:40:02 +0000 To: Subject: A New Baseball Book That Sounds Very Interesting From: bob.chapman50@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 13:24:18 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: A classic exhibit card From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Gotta love this card-- https://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-49-EXHIBIT-SPORTS-CHAMPIONS-ARCADE-CARD-BEN-SKLAR-MARBLE-CHAMPION-1947/222915062181?hash=item33e6c5e9a5:g:A30AAOSwP4FaH54c ================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 20:07:28 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 1979 OPC From: John Dahms Rick Lyons posted a large lot of 79 OPC cards on ebay and I went ahead and popped on it. I have a couple of guys who are going in on it with me and am looking for a couple more. I am not filling wantlists or looking to get starter lots out at this time.I am looking for some one or ones to take 20 or 25 percent of this lot. Cards are in exmt and better shape with the usual o/c and miscut Email me if you want more info. John Dahms 310 E. Addison St. Jackson Mi 49203 ================= Date: 09 Apr 2018 20:46:51 +0000 To: Subject: 1000 new vintage cards in today! From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 12:51:02 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: 1960 LEAF BASEBALL LOT OF 25 WITH MANY HIGH NUMBERS From: Rick Lyons Just bought this lot for $103 so average little more than $4 for high numbers. I need 11 of them so looking for someone who wants to split the lot or multiple people. if you don=E2=99t need many you can buy a 1/2? 1/3? 1\4? Let me know what your interest is and we can go from there. Rick Look at this on eBay 1960 LEAF BASEBALL LOT OF 25 WITH MANY HIGH NUMBERS Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 21:51:40 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Vacation Day 0.5 From: Ken M Hi all, It's been a rough few days leading up to today, but I'm gearing up to make the trip to Strongsville this weekend. I can certainly say I'm looking forward to the trip, for nothing more than to put these last few days behind me. I left work Thursday with a slight sore throat, but nothing that would keep me out of my pickup basketball game. Friday morning came a lot earlier than usual though. I woke up feeling exhausted and stuffed up. I made the command decision to use a sick day at work and promptly fell back asleep for four hours. The rest of Friday was mostly spent in bed drinking fluids and cough syrup. I picked the kids up from school though and spent that night trying not to get them sick. It was probably a blessing that Kyleigh used that sleepover next door that she was promised last week. I was conscious enough to have a pizza delivered to Dom and me. Saturday I dropped the kids off at Mom's and went into work at noon. Working in the frozen food section isn't the most ideal environment for someone trying to get rid of a cold. I hung in there for a half shift and went home for more rest and fluids. Sunday morning I felt great! Played some hoop and worked my normal five hour OT shift, but wore down and didn't go to the other store for extra hours like normal. More rest and fluids. Monday I managed to finally get caught up with the weekend's work that had snowballed from my sick day. About 9 pm last night, I got a phone call from my bank's fraud detection dept. Apparently someone had used my debit card at a Lukoil gas station. I had only gone to and from work, making no stops that day. The closest Lukoil station is over 40 miles from me. Great start to a vacation is to have your only debit/credit card permanently blocked a couple days before you're supposed to leave. :::/sarcasm::: Well, today things turned for the better. I still have a decent cough, but the migraine/stuffiness/fatigue are gone. I left work an hour earl y by skipping lunch to deal with the bank. They issued me a new debit card and I signed some paperwork regarding the two other charges that popped up on my card - from a Speedway in Hammond, IN totalling about $93. (The fraud dept cancelled out the $28+ charge from Lukoil). I guess it could've been a lot worse. Whole thing took about 20 minutes at the bank. Picked up the kids and took them with me to the local PD to report it. (I kept threatening to put the kids in jail if they misbehaved while we were there. It sorta worked.) Tomorrow I'll get the police report for the bank, so they can refund me the rest of the money. Then I gotta figure out how many auto-pay things are gonna need to be changed... Phone, auto-toll, internet, etc... While I was at the bank, I took some money out for the trip. Cash is king! TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 19:20:23 -0500 Subject: 70 Kellogg lot, anyone want to split? From: mark zentkovich Lots of star power here, anyone want to split if we win? https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-KELLOGGS-BASEBALL-LOT-OF-200-CRACKED-W-STARS-94146/332612459671?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2060353.m1431= Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:40:17 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Strongsville From: "Thomas W. Billing" I will be at the show at Strongsville Friday afternoon only. I know some folks will be there but I do not know most at sight. If you feel motivated,shoot me a message at 937-284-3499 and we can meet up. I know I will visit Uncle Dick=E2=99s table. Tom Billing ================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 15:18:52 -0400 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A classic exhibit card From: Michael Rich This set is on my multi-sport list and I already have the Sklar card. Mike Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:24 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Gotta love this card-- > https://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-49-EXHIBIT-SPORTS-CHAMPIONS-ARCADE-CARD-BEN-SKLAR-MARBLE-CHAMPION-1947/222915062181?hashitem33e6c5e9a5:g:A30AAOSwP4= ================= Date: 10 Apr 2018 00:40:34 +0000 To: Subject: Strongsville show talk From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 22:43:16 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk From: Ken M Ed, I reached out to Stan Loch through eBay a few weeks ago. I was trying a lowball offer on a t205 he listed and asked if he would be at the show. He turned me down on my offer on the card, but said he would be there and if I wanted him to bring anything. I mentioned that I had just started the 1961 NuCard Scoops and 1963 Bazooka ATG sets. He said he had some Scoops and would bring them to Strongsville. That's the only thing I'll really look for (assuming he remembers to bring them.) Other than that, I always let the cards find me. (Zen collecting) In other words, I find it harder to find A, B, and C than just try to be in the right place at the right time. Besides, I think I might have a knack for it :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Wed, Apr 11, 2018 10:15 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk With the show coming up in just 3 days, I figured I would ask what everyone is planning on looking for, what people's plans are, and how you plan to enjoy the show. Living 8 minutes from the venue, I kind of feel like this is "my" show, even though of course it is not, and I am curious as to how people plan to enjoy their show! For me, I am looking forward to seeing quite a few OBCers whom I have not seen since the National, or longer. I took Friday off of work to hit the show on the first day and hunt for some deals. As always, I am looking forward to Sam Taylor's house on Saturday night for some swapping, some story telling, and some hanging out. As far as the cards go themselves- I have 2 main goals. The first is a 64 Topps Giants Sandy Koufax for a reasonable price. Looking for VGish, and this will kill the set. Second goal is a Dr. J. basketball rookie from 72 -73 Topps, to ice that set. Those are the only 2 sets I am close on, so the rest of the show will be knocking off high number and HOF hits to my many other sets. Hoping for a few nice 72 Topps hi footballs, maybe some non sport action, and my goal will be the 70-72 sets, I want to finish my 70s sets before I start any new sets. My wife has politely requested that I not start new sets until I finish and put sets away, and that is a fair request. I will try very hard to honor it but if a good deal shows up...lol Hope to hear from those of you who are going. What is your plan for this fun weekend? Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 00:56:12 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Guess what Mickey Mantle's BA was in 1952... From: Sean McGowan Yup, .311! Now go back to bed! ================= Date: 12 Apr 2018 14:58:43 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Strongsville show talk From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:38:15 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk From: David Luciano Hey Hutch, Plans changed. No West Virginia for us, so Christine got a room at the holiday in so we will be there Saturday also. As far as my game plan, 1st show in over 20 years so=85 hope my head doesn=92t pop off. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:40 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > With the show coming up in just 3 days, I figured I would ask what everyone is planning on looking for, what people's plans are, and how you plan toenjoy the show. Living 8 minutes from the venue, I kind of feel like this is "my" show, even though of course it is not, and I am curious as to how people plan to enjoy their show! > For me, I am looking forward to seeing quite a few OBCers whom I have notseen since the National, or longer. I took Friday off of work to hit the show on the first day and hunt for some deals. As always, I am looking forward to Sam Taylor's house on Saturday night for some swapping, some story telling, and some hanging out. > As far as the cards go themselves- I have 2 main goals. The first is a 64Topps Giants Sandy Koufax for a reasonable price. Looking for VGish, and this will kill the set. Second goal is a Dr. J. basketball rookie from 72-73Topps, to ice that set. > Those are the only 2 sets I am close on, so the rest of the show will be knocking off high number and HOF hits to my many other sets. Hoping for a few nice 72 Topps hi footballs, maybe some non sport action, and my goal will be the 70-72 sets, I want to finish my 70s sets before I start any new sets. My wife has politely requested that I not start new sets until I finishand put sets away, and that is a fair request. I will try very hard to honor it but if a good deal shows up...lol > Hope to hear from those of you who are going. What is your plan for this fun > Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:56:44 -0400 To: daveluciano@me.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Will you be joining us at Sam's for the after party on Saturday? We areexpecting around 14 and since some dealers occasionally join us there could be more. LaShelle Denning will be there, so let Christine know she wouldnot be the only woman. Renee McLaughlin is also a possibility. Present attendee list at Sam's: Jerry Barnes John Dahms Joe & LaShelle Denning John Scott Gray Tom Housley Ed Hutchinson John & Renee McLaughlin (may possibly only attend the show) Ken Morganti Ron Perry Mike Rich & buddy Rocky (see 1962 & 1963 Topps BB list on my site) Wes Shepard Mark Talbot -----Original Message----- From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: jehutch75 Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 3:43 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk Hey Hutch, Plans changed. No West Virginia for us, so Christine got a room at the holiday in so we will be there Saturday also. As far as my game plan, 1st show in over 20 years so=E2=A6 hope my head doesn=E2=99t pop off. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:40 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] With the show coming up in just 3 days, I figured I would ask what everyoneis planning on looking for, what people's plans are, and how you plan to enjoy the show. Living 8 minutes from the venue, I kind of feel like this is"my" show, even though of course it is not, and I am curious as to how people plan to enjoy their show! For me, I am looking forward to seeing quite a few OBCers whom I have not seen since the National, or longer. I took Friday off of work to hit the show on the first day and hunt for some deals. As always, I am looking forwardto Sam Taylor's house on Saturday night for some swapping, some story telling, and some hanging out.. As far as the cards go themselves- I have 2 main goals. The first is a 64 Topps Giants Sandy Koufax for a reasonable price. Looking for VGish, and this will kill the set. Second goal is a Dr. J.. basketball rookie from 72-73 Topps, to ice that set. Those are the only 2 sets I am close on, so the rest of the show will be knocking off high number and HOF hits to my many other sets. Hoping for a fewnice 72 Topps hi footballs, maybe some non sport action, and my goal will be the 70-72 sets, I want to finish my 70s sets before I start any new sets. My wife has politely requested that I not start new sets until I finish and put sets away, and that is a fair request. I will try very hard to honorit but if a good deal shows up...lol Hope to hear from those of you who are going. What is your plan for this fun Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:00:29 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk From: David Luciano Hi Mike. Yes I think so. Thanks for asking. We are both looking forward to it. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Apr 12, 2018, at 3:56 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Dave, > Will you be joining us at Sam's for the after party on Saturday? We are expecting around 14 and since some dealers occasionally join us there could be more. LaShelle Denning will be there, so let Christine know she would not be the only woman. Renee McLaughlin is also a possibility. > Present attendee list at Sam's: > Sam > Jerry Barnes > John Dahms > Joe & LaShelle Denning > John Scott Gray > Tom Housley > Ed Hutchinson > John & Renee McLaughlin (may possibly only attend the show) > Ken Morganti > Ron Perry > Mike Rich & buddy Rocky (see 1962 & 1963 Topps BB list on my site) > Wes Shepard > Mark Talbot > -----Original Message----- > From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: jehutch75 > Cc: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 3:43 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk > Hey Hutch, > Plans changed. No West Virginia for us, so Christine got a room at the holiday in so we will be there Saturday also. > As far as my game plan, 1st show in over 20 years so=85 hope my head doesn=92t pop off. > Thanks! > Dave Luciano > 12815 Kingsway Dr, > Chesterland, Ohio > 44026 > 216 406 5940 > daveluciano@me.com > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:40 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > With the show coming up in just 3 days, I figured I would ask what everyone is planning on looking for, what people's plans are, and how you plan toenjoy the show. Living 8 minutes from the venue, I kind of feel like this is "my" show, even though of course it is not, and I am curious as to how people plan to enjoy their show! > For me, I am looking forward to seeing quite a few OBCers whom I have notseen since the National, or longer.. I took Friday off of work to hit the show on the first day and hunt for some deals. As always, I am looking forward to Sam Taylor's house on Saturday night for some swapping, some story telling, and some hanging out.. > As far as the cards go themselves- I have 2 main goals. The first is a 64Topps Giants Sandy Koufax for a reasonable price. Looking for VGish, and this will kill the set. Second goal is a Dr. J.. basketball rookie from 72-73 Topps, to ice that set. > Those are the only 2 sets I am close on, so the rest of the show will be knocking off high number and HOF hits to my many other sets. Hoping for a few nice 72 Topps hi footballs, maybe some non sport action, and my goal will be the 70-72 sets, I want to finish my 70s sets before I start any new sets. My wife has politely requested that I not start new sets until I finishand put sets away, and that is a fair request. I will try very hard to honor it but if a good deal shows up....lol > Hope to hear from those of you who are going. What is your plan for this fun > Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:08:29 -0400 To: daveluciano@me.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I too look for anything that may jump out at me at a show. With the show being in Ohio, I will keep a sharper look out for regional issues such as Kahn's, Sohio Indians & Reds, Num Num Indians, Ohio BB HOF Postcards, etc. The top card on my list right now is a 1940 Playball #168 Honus Wagner to complete my Playball base set run. Other top targets are: 1951 Topps Team Card Red Sox and 1952 Bowman Large FB #99 Stydhar. Both are set killers. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: daveluciano Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 3:56 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk Will you be joining us at Sam's for the after party on Saturday? We areexpecting around 14 and since some dealers occasionally join us there could be more. LaShelle Denning will be there, so let Christine know she wouldnot be the only woman. Renee McLaughlin is also a possibility. Present attendee list at Sam's: Jerry Barnes John Dahms Joe & LaShelle Denning John Scott Gray Tom Housley Ed Hutchinson John & Renee McLaughlin (may possibly only attend the show) Ken Morganti Ron Perry Mike Rich & buddy Rocky (see 1962 & 1963 Topps BB list on my site) Wes Shepard Mark Talbot -----Original Message----- From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: jehutch75 Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2018 3:43 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk Hey Hutch, Plans changed. No West Virginia for us, so Christine got a room at the holiday in so we will be there Saturday also. As far as my game plan, 1st show in over 20 years so=E2=A6 hope my head doesn=E2=99t pop off. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:40 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] With the show coming up in just 3 days, I figured I would ask what everyoneis planning on looking for, what people's plans are, and how you plan to enjoy the show. Living 8 minutes from the venue, I kind of feel like this is"my" show, even though of course it is not, and I am curious as to how people plan to enjoy their show! For me, I am looking forward to seeing quite a few OBCers whom I have not seen since the National, or longer.. I took Friday off of work to hit the show on the first day and hunt for some deals. As always, I am looking forward to Sam Taylor's house on Saturday night for some swapping, some story telling, and some hanging out.. As far as the cards go themselves- I have 2 main goals. The first is a 64 Topps Giants Sandy Koufax for a reasonable price. Looking for VGish, and this will kill the set. Second goal is a Dr. J.. basketball rookie from 72-73 Topps, to ice that set. Those are the only 2 sets I am close on, so the rest of the show will be knocking off high number and HOF hits to my many other sets. Hoping for a fewnice 72 Topps hi footballs, maybe some non sport action, and my goal will be the 70-72 sets, I want to finish my 70s sets before I start any new sets. My wife has politely requested that I not start new sets until I finish and put sets away, and that is a fair request. I will try very hard to honorit but if a good deal shows up....lol Hope to hear from those of you who are going. What is your plan for this fun Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 16:18:34 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville show talk From: Doug DeJong All - My employer is going through due diligence in selling to a for profit health system so I have been buried at work which has impacted my plans. I realized the National was going to be tough for me to attend this year so thought this might be a good substitute. Originally was going to spend today with my daughter in Cincinnati and spend Friday and possibly Saturday at theshow, go back to Cincinnati and then drive home Monday. Now I plan to still attend Friday but have a couple conference calls to take so it will be interrupted! I need to head to Cincinnati after the show shits down Fridayto spend a bit more time with my daughter before getting home in time on Sunday to get some work done. Hoping to knock off the last two 58 Topps cards and maybe the final 64 Topps if I am lucky! One thing, I have not had time to prepare any handshakes so please forgive that oversight and hopefully you forgot me too! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:40 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > With the show coming up in just 3 days, I figured I would ask what everyone is planning on looking for, what people's plans are, and how you plan toenjoy the show. Living 8 minutes from the venue, I kind of feel like this is "my" show, even though of course it is not, and I am curious as to how people plan to enjoy their show! > For me, I am looking forward to seeing quite a few OBCers whom I have notseen since the National, or longer. I took Friday off of work to hit the show on the first day and hunt for some deals. As always, I am looking forward to Sam Taylor's house on Saturday night for some swapping, some story telling, and some hanging out. > As far as the cards go themselves- I have 2 main goals. The first is a 64Topps Giants Sandy Koufax for a reasonable price. Looking for VGish, and this will kill the set. Second goal is a Dr. J. basketball rookie from 72-73Topps, to ice that set. > Those are the only 2 sets I am close on, so the rest of the show will be knocking off high number and HOF hits to my many other sets. Hoping for a few nice 72 Topps hi footballs, maybe some non sport action, and my goal will be the 70-72 sets, I want to finish my 70s sets before I start any new sets. My wife has politely requested that I not start new sets until I finishand put sets away, and that is a fair request. I will try very hard to honor it but if a good deal shows up...lol > Hope to hear from those of you who are going. What is your plan for this fun > Ed Hutchinson ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 23:16:47 +0000 Subject: Re: Strongsville show talk From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I am very excited about attending my first Strongville show on Saturday andmaybe Sunday. I plan on getting in Friday about the time the show lets out, so if there are group dinner plans, please call or text me at 231-287-0543. Also, I have not seen the directions to Sam's house, so I hope those details are posted again, or at least forwarded to me again. As for show goals, I have about ten sets I'm hoping to finish. If anyone sees cut goudey4 in 1s or cut 41 double plays, please let me know. Also high on my list are beaters from 1949 Bowman (Paige, Ashburn, Snider and Doby). Thanks forletting me know if you see any that you want to pass on. Be happy, John Scott Gray Sent from my iPad ================= To: "obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 04:27:02 +0000 Subject: 79 Topps Football backs From: Shawn Smart Content-ID: <7DD9709970F4B74AA81AE016B124E0ED@sct-15-20-156-4-msonline-outlook-7d85a.templateTenant> ================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 22:40:19 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Strongsville show talk From: Joe and LaShelle Denning We are looking to kill LaShelle's Charlie's Angels set and I am looking for some good deals on hits to my sets in OBC condition. LaShelle has a paper copy of my WL so feel free to approach her about my list. I also am bringing my 5000 count dupes box to Sam's and a separate box of 78 and 79 Joe and LaShelle ================= Date: 13 Apr 2018 23:45:52 +0000 To: Subject: Strongsville show day 1 report From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 14 Apr 2018 14:06:04 +0000 To: Subject: Question from a Newbie -- Trimmed Cards? From: bob.chapman50@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 11:52:25 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: low grade '35 Goudey Dizzy Dean on eBay From: LAWRENCE TIPTON low grade 1935 Goudey card with Cardinal greats Frankie Frisch and Dizzy Dean on eBay Buy It Now $22.50 shipping $3.50 California residents pay salestax https://www.ebay.com/itm/1935-Goudey-2a-FRISCH-DEAN-ORSATTI-CARLETON-4-in-1-/401510368061?_trksidp2385738.m4383.l4275.c10 , Subject: 1979 OPC baseball availables From: John Dahms Got that lot of baseball sorted and to the guys. Have way to many left so if you have lists send them to me John Dahms 310 E. Addison St. Jackson Mi 49203 ================= To: "obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:54:18 +0000 Subject: 74 T FB Bob Windsor From: Shawn Smart Content-ID: <71217F196FDC4E4F89F80EBBB486093D@sct-15-20-156-4-msonline-outlook-7d85a.templateTenant> What do I have here? Lil help! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: BRIAN Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 01:00:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 74 T FB Bob Windsor [1 Attachment] From: Shawn Smart ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2018 23:44:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Question from a Newbie -- Trimmed Cards? From: "George Vrechek" If you mean severely trimmed cards, some of my boyhood collecting compatriots would cut their 1952 and 1953 Topps cards down to the size of the1952 Bowman cards, figuring that the larger sizes wouldn't last. I still have a 1953 Topps mini of Satchel Paige. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 03:03:53 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Strongsville Report From: ShoelessWes Pretty nice turnout to the show. Got to meet Dave Luciano and his wife on friday afternoon, and went straight to uncle Dick=E2=99s table. I got hurt the most at his table, so i paid him entirely with $2 bills. Tackled a few woodies on the short list, and managed to get cards i needed within target price. 3 never made the cut, 425 Yaz, 530 Gibson sp and 544 mccovey sp remain for the kill. Zen Morganti bird dogged a number of 72 topps hits for me, and ultimately killed my Psychos with #543 Wayne Granger! I found 4 of the 5 1960 Topps cards left, and just before the show ended, Ed Hutchinson dug up a great scum deal for me on the final hit, al kaline all star! I managed to see one of two cards needed to kill the 59 topps set. Several #550 Campy hero cards were in circulation at $51. I finally found one for $15 and popped on it. I hate that card. The last man standing in 59s is the #564 mick all star. I practiced a little zen collecting, and found both white and gray backed 1956 topps #10 Spahn for $10 for the pair. Saw a lot of good and rare stuff in circulation. The 1966 Topps Bart Shirley card mystery may have been debunked. It=E2=99s probably not as short aprinted, IMHO, as Diesel from DZnuts cards, had nearly a hundred of them on display. Okay, maybe 45, but still, it was a crap load. I kind of hope SCD does a super dooper special article on a grand discovery in the sheets ofthe 66 high numbers, and finally go public that, in all probability, the Shirley was actually not a short print in the series, but in fact a Double Print!!!!! Then the hoarders of that card would really take a hit. So, i call BS, but what do i know. The Sam Taylor swap was one of stardom. Aside from Sam=E2=99s great hospitality, Tom Housley makes a 2018 burlap style Strongsville OBC sub set! The set should be scanned and displayed. Any intact sheets? Btw, the housley card ended up with a signature bright yellow back, indicative of the infamous milton bradleys of 1967/68. All in all, a great show, great conversations with OBCers, many of which traveled great stretches to attend. On a final side note, Kurt Tourdot wantedme to tell everyone he will gladly accept chunks, groups, left over card savers, both big and regular. So save em up and dump them on him this summer. OBC rocks, Wes Shepard ================= To: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 09:45:06 -0500 Subject: Beckett Checklist? From: "George Vrechek" Does anyone have information as to what , if any, cards Beckett lists as variations in the 1955 Topps baseball set? I know what the variations and printing differences are. I'm just looking to see if and how Beckett currently lists them in any set checklist. George Vrechek ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "George Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:59:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Beckett Checklist? From: JAY TYSVER Beckett lists no variations for 1955 Topps Baseball. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:45 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Beckett Checklist? Does anyone have information as to what , if any, cards Beckett lists as variations in the 1955 Topps baseball set? I know what the variations and printing differences are. I=92m just lookingto see if and how Beckett currently lists them in any set checklist. George Vrechek ================= To: "'JAY TYSVER'" , Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:16:32 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Beckett Checklist? From: "George Vrechek" Thanks much. That makes it easy. From: JAY TYSVER [mailto:JTYSVER1@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:59 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Beckett Checklist? Beckett lists no variations for 1955 Topps Baseball. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:45 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Beckett Checklist? Does anyone have information as to what , if any, cards Beckett lists as variations in the 1955 Topps baseball set? I know what the variations and printing differences are. I'm just looking to see if and how Beckett currently lists them in any set checklist. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 11:50:38 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Car load of cards From: chris tripler OBCers (but really targeted at New England OBC contingent) I have a car load of cards, mostly UV that I need to move along. Anyone want to sort through 40-50,000 cards. Lots of Boston collectibles/paraphernalia. Lots of numbered cards and rare inserts. All sports, all for the taking.I can deliver to CT and MA (I=E2=99m traveling a lot these days), otherwise if you want to make the trip to Beverly, Mass. That would be great! Just let me know. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:12:02 -0400 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Car load of cards From: chris tripler Sorry everyone, my last posting should have been on the UV server. Please ignore/delete my posting. I=E2=99ll move it over to the UV server. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 15, 2018, at 11:50 AM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > OBCers (but really targeted at New England OBC contingent) > I have a car load of cards, mostly UV that I need to move along. Anyone want to sort through 40-50,000 cards. Lots of Boston collectibles/paraphernalia. Lots of numbered cards and rare inserts. All sports, all for the taking. I can deliver to CT and MA (I=E2=99m traveling a lot these days), otherwise if you want to make the trip to Beverly, Mass. That would be great! Just let me know. > Trip > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:23:35 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: Re: 1960 LEAF BASEBALL LOT OF 25 WITH MANY HIGH NUMBERS From: Rick Lyons I had ten people reply to this so I couldn=E2=99t help everyone it had 12 dupes so I stopped at the first four that responded. Sorry to the others.Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:51 PM, Rick Lyons wrote: > Just bought this lot for $103 so average little more than $4 for high numbers. I need 11 of them so looking for someone who wants to split the lot or multiple people. if you don=E2=99t need many you can buy a 1/2? 1/3? 1\4? Let me know what your interest is and we can go from there. Rick > Look at this on eBay > 1960 LEAF BASEBALL LOT OF 25 WITH MANY HIGH NUMBERS > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:47:55 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Strongsville Show Report From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello All, It is always a pleasure to meet up with OBC=E2=99ers at shows and events, Strongsville was no different. Along the way I ran into 10+ members and a few with their spouses, great to see you all. I had a pretty good show and made a number of purchases. Started the show off with the dealer from Kentucky who always has a stack of Red-Man cards. I killed the Red Man Indian Chief set and picked up 15 or so date variations and upgrades for my baseball sets. I picked up a handfulof late `70=E2=99s FB cards needed by a friend at Jack=E2=99s SportsCards. The buy of the show was made at Huggins & Scott who have some 50% boxes for sale along with auction items to preview. I got `34 Batter-ups, `34 Diamond Stars (Frisch), `34 Goudeys (Manush and Lombardi), `39 & 40 Playball, and a `49 Leaf (Spahn). One of my favorite dealers, Denny from Akron sold me a Butterfinger, some Sohio, some Hostess panels, and assorted Non-Sport issues. Michigan dealer Mark Smith had a `65 Philly Charlie Taylor for me. I got a couple Non-Sport from Uncle Dick, and my final purchase was with Kurt Toudot with mostly `51 Topps blue backs and some other oddball items. The show producers were kicking us out by this time, so it was off to Sam=E2=99s. The swap/get-together at Sam=E2=99s is just as anticipated asthe show itself. We all converge on Sam Taylor=E2=99s home in Twinsburgand invade the =E2=9Cman cave=E2=9D that is a shrine to Sam=E2=99s favorite teams and players. It=E2=99s especially enjoyable since thoseteams are Detroit teams and TIGER players. Each year there is something new to look at and it=E2=99s always a blast. There was a generous spread of pizza, wings, and salad to enjoy and in between ice cold Yuengling=E2=99s I pawed through some of the dupe boxes and grabbed up some stuff. Among the treasures I took home were TIGER cards (thanks Ed, Wes, and Joe), I helped myself to some Drake and Kraft Panels from Sam=E2=99s box, was given an opportunity to grab some `72 Milton Bradley TIGERS (thanks Sam again), found a trio of Topps bubble Gum discs from JSG=E2=99s box, a small stack of non-sport also ended up with me. The surprise of the swap for me waswhen host Sam made an announcement inquiring if anyone was close to finishing the `58 Topps Yellow Letter variations, I said I was and he handed overthe Clemente, graded PSA 2 from J.D.Hekathorn. WOW!!!! As good as any of my purchases today and now I just need McDaniel (#65) and Farrell (#76) to complete the set. We made it back on the road by 10 pm and were blessed to not encounter any of the forecasted freezing rain for a smooth drive back toMichigan. We pulled back into Mike=E2=99s driveway about 1:30 am and I would get home before 2 am. Nice little road trip, thanks to all who made it a BLAST - BE WELL!!! See you in Cleveland in August Live Long & Prosper REGARDS ---------------------- MARK ================= To: "=?utf-8?Q?obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com?=" Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 23:00:44 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Yet_another_Strongsville_report?From: ================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:30:32 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Strongsville show report From: jerry barnes Here is my version of the Morganti ramble. My goal for the show before I got there was to finish my 70=E2=99s toppsbaseball run which I had down to doable levels. After reading pre show reports, and talking to fellow OBC attendees I decide to start Zen Morganti show tactics. I started walking the show floor, and came upon Wes who was standing at J.D Heckathorn=E2=99s table. Wes told me J.D. had about 100 or so 1940 Playball=E2=99s for $3 and up. I have not started this set and decided to take a look. After a meeting of the minds between Wes, Sam, and I, I decided to take the plunge. I ended up with 111 1940 Playball=E2=99s nice way to start the set. I was able to Kill my 1960 Topps baseball and 1975 Topps football set=E2=99s with the help of Kurt Tourdot. And then a handshake from Sam killed my 1970 Football set. I also got my 1/3of the 1979 OPC Topps Ebay purchase from J.D. At Sam=E2=99s house I won a prize from the Sam give away program which was a 1940 Playball. This ended up being a extra so someone will be getting a playball soon. This years Strongsville show was amazing, and the best show for me so far. I added 763 new vintage cards to my collection. thanks Sam for allowing us to take over your house for the evening, I can not wait for the National this year. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 14:17:02 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: My Strongsville Show report From: John Mclaughlin Like everyone else, I've been reading these show reports which I always find fun so here's mine. I didn't have any big goals this year other then to find the last four cards to finish the '73 Topps baseball set. It only took a few minutes tospot a little group of them in J D Heckathorn's case. That little group produced three of the four needed: Rookie Outfielders (Dwight Evans), Rookie Third Basemen (Mike Schmidt) and Rookie Pitchers. Of course there always has to be one missing - Rookie Second Basemen (Lopes). I picked up a few '53 Bowman cards from J.D. as well. It took a little looking around to come up with that last '73 but it finally turned up at Jack's Cards where I also added a nice stack of '59's. As for the show itself, it was great if you're looking for vintage. Just to illustrate, while hunting for that last '73 I was told by morethen one dealer that they didn't bring anything that new. After finishing the '73's I figured I'd just search some bargain boxes and try to hit a few sets with the only other major purchase being a '62 Mantle. I guess I'll make the '72 set a priority now and I did pick up a couple dozen high numbers from Kurt Tourdot for a good price. I think the only set I didn't hit was the '55 Topps but by the time I got to that point I was getting pretty short on money. It was a fun time and great to see some old friends and meet a couple of new ones. I will elaborate more on that on the thanks server. John McLaughlin ================= Date: 16 Apr 2018 12:46:17 -0700 To: Subject: Pittsburgh area show From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:26:40 -0400 To: Michael Rich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pittsburgh area show From: Anson Whaley As Mike mentioned, I will be there, likely on Saturday. My collecting focus is pretty narrow these days so I doubt that I would be there the other days. As Mike mentioned, it's a nice size show. Here was a picture I snapped last year to give an idea. It doesn't give you a great vantage point and doesn't include the autograph section but the arena was full of dealers. They have about 35 autograph guests set up this year so they're expecting a pretty good turnout. This is what has typically been called the Robert Morris Show since it has been at that school in the past. It's moving for at least this year because the school is building a new arena. Logistically, if you live east of Pittsburgh, it will be a shorter drive. If you're west, a little further. Monroeville is about an hour south east of the old location, so anyone in MD, eastern PA, VA, and most of WV will have a shorter drive. One minor correction is that the show is actually at the convention center, which is across from the mall. The benefit to this is that the parking situation is much improved. At the Robert Morris show, it was a fiasco trying to find space if you arrived later because many lots were marked as permitted areas, which resulted in a lot of confusion and having to park farther away if you didn't get there early. Plus, there's a shopping mall right there so if anyone is making the trip with you but not interested in cards, they have that option. Although it's not a great mall, there are lots of places to eat and other shopping all within five minutes. It's on a main drag with all kinds of things there, including lots of shopping and dozens of restaurants. On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 3:46 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Now that Strongsville is behind us, people can start planning for other > shows. While there has been talk of attending a Pirates game in Pittsburgh > on Tuesday, July 31, the nite before the National starts in Cleveland, > there is a nice regional show that this year is being held at Monroeville > Mall, near Pittsburgh, on May 16-18. The last couple of years, Ron Perry > and I have driven to Pittsburgh on Friday and went to the Pirates game. We > then attend the show all day on Saturday (we needed just about the entire > day to get through the entire show) and then drove back to Detroit Saturday > nite. Monroeville is within about 5 hours drive for a wide swath of > OBCers, encompassing Detroit, all of Ohio, Baltimore, DC, Philadelphia, > etc. At 6 hours, you add in Lexington, KY to New York City to much of VA. > The show is slightly smaller than Strongsville, but with the move to the > new location, I do not know quite what to expect. Some of the same dealers > will be there, but there will be others that were not set up at > Strongsville. I know Anson Whaley plans on attending. Please let us > know if you consider going. OBC attendance likely will affect whether I > decide to go. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 04:23:52 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Detroit Tigers George Brace 13-card lot on eBay From: Matthew Glidden $25 BIN for 13 hard-to-find Brace photo cards. Hope a FOOT member can use https://www.ebay.com/itm/Detroit-Tigers-lot-of-13-diff-3-1-2x5-colorized-Bra-Mac-photos-Auker-Herman-Rowe-/142760157484 ================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 05:37:51 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: OBC on the mind From: BRIAN be able to pass by this sign and not think of our OBC superstar Peter Mead.

The place was closed but the sign is an OBC Classic.
(Goodyear AZ)

OBC Forever
Brian

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: 17 Apr 2018 23:48:34 +0000 To: Subject: My Strongsville musings From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:29:53 +0000 Subject: Royals fans? From: Aaron Shirley Do we have any Royals fans in the group? Or does anyone even know a Royals fan? Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2018 18:21:52 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver From: Anthony Hello all I have a 1967 #417 rbaves variation dupe Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:12:19 +0000 Subject: A big move From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:45:32 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big move From: Ken M Aaron, Lawrenceville is about 6-1/2 hours southwest of Cleveland, which of course is the only really important stat this year. Just sayin'. 😉 Good luck with the move. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 11:43 AMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] A big move Howdy folks! I’m excited to officially announce I’ve been offered and accepted the preaching ministry at Pleasant Ridge Christian Church in Lawrenceville IL! That means my family and I will be moving on the 28th. And as you can imagine there’s a lot to do! I gave Carl a few dupes to play with so I don’t have to move them. And because I’ve been so stinkin busy, I also gave him a few packages that needed mailed. Thought he might like adding a little more to them. My new address, after April 28th, will be:16394 Pleasant Ridge RoadLawrenceville IL 62439It’s about 100 minutes east of where we live now, so I’ll be close-ish to the OBC INDIANA contingent. And I hope to start going to some of the Indiana shows soon. Ron Estes? Any other OBC friendlies? Anywho, this is why I’ve been so inactive lately. Looking forward to getting back in the swing of things once we’re all settled in over there. Aaron Shirley OBC class of 2005 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:05:02 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 62 master From: ShoelessWes My binder shows there are 698 unique individual cards in the 1962 Topps master set. Are there any more? Does this calculation check out? Wes Shepard ================= To: "obc-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 22:48:05 +0000 Subject: 60smintcards From: "Prickett, Patrick" Hi All, Just wanted to give a dealer recommendation. I bought a starter set of 1974 OPC cards from Ebay seller: 60smintcards. Well turns out, he made a mistake and listed the lot as having 550 cards andit only had 450 cards when I got it. He offered a full refund, but I still needed the starter set even if it was less than I expected. So he said he'd send additional cards to make up for it. Well, he went to my Net54 checklist and found OPC cards from 1965 -1975, and sent those. Most incredibly, he included a ton of star cards (72 Fisk RC, 65 Morgan RC, 72 Stargell, 75 Brock, 65 Hodges, etc., etc.) I think he really went above and beyond to make up for his mistake, and just wanted to recommend him if you ever came across his stuff for sale. ================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 20:33:26 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master From: ShoelessWes I try not to use the term =E2variation=E2=99 loosely. I also recognize printing defects, or errors, or printing differences. I like the term =E2unique=E2=99 In good conscience, i can=E2=99t consider the venezuelans as part of themaster set. If that=E2=99s bad, i=E2=99m sorry. Can any other of you master set, variation type collectors give a second =E2Aye=E2=99 to (698) individual, unique cards making the 1962 Topps master set? Wes Shepard > On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Rainsley wrote: > That=E2=99s my count too, depending on which opinions you count as to what is a variation and what isn=E2=99t, and what is just a lousy print=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6I wonder if there will ever be a consensus, perhaps not=E2=A6=E2=A6.. I=E2=99m happy with 698. I=E2=99ll go dog-balls if someone comes up with 699. > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: April 19, 2018 2:05 PM > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master > My binder shows there are 698 unique individual cards in the 1962 Topps master set. Are there any more? Does this calculation check out? > Wes Shepard > Virus-free. www.avg.com ================= To: Grant Rainsley , ShoelessWes Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 03:33:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master From: richard dingman There are easily more than 700 but it depends very much on what each individual collector considers a "unique card" - variation or error or print difference or defect or whatever you want to call them. I have a list of many at https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home/topps-variations-1960---1969 and I have a list of many more that I have not yet added to these lists because I have seen them but haven't yet acquired the cards. Topps Variations (1960 - 1969) -- updated 3/21/18 ... Richard Dingman's baseball card wantlist and tradables Richard Dingman From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:33 PM To: Grant Rainsley Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master I try not to use the term =91variation=92 loosely. I also recognize printing defects, or errors, or printing differences. I like the term =91unique=92cards. In good conscience, i can=92t consider the venezuelans as part of the master set. If that=92s bad, i=92m sorry. Can any other of you master set, variation type collectors give a second =91Aye=92 to (698) individual, unique cards making the 1962 Topps master set? Wes Shepard On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Rainsley > That=92s my count too, depending on which opinions you count as to what is a variation and what isn=92t, and what is just a lousy print=85=85=85I wonder if there will ever be a consensus, perhaps not=85=85.. I=92m happy with 698. I=92ll go dog-balls if someone comes up with 699. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com Sent: April 19, 2018 2:05 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master My binder shows there are 698 unique individual cards in the 1962 Topps master set. Are there any more? Does this calculation check out? Wes Shepard [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com Subject: Way too early? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 18:21:17 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Way too early? From: Ken M Mike, Not too early by any means. I booked my room a couple months ago. Sam Taylor had a lengthy conversation in Strongsville regarding plans for the show (cookout, swap, even what might be on the menu come August). The last National in Cleveland was EPIC. This one promises to top that and be the best OBC gathering ever. I don't think I can stress this enough: if you've ever thought about attending the National, you owe it to yourself to make every effort humanly possible to see the show with OBC. There are a number of us that do a lot of the legwork and planning, so you simply need to get there and enjoy. The National server will give you info on admission, carpooling, hotels (and roommate opportunities), where to find the best dealers, advice on how to take in the show, the swap and other group activities, and so much more. Now that I'm all unpacked from Strongsville, I should really start repacking that bag for Cleveland soon. :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 4:03 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Way too early? I believe Monday starts the 100 day countdown to the National in Cleveland August 1-5. If you are even thinking of attending please sign up for the OBC National server. There are around 20 guys that show up virtually every year, regardless of location. Another handful that attend each year, depending on the location. I know at least 2 guys are planning on going to the National for the first time as OBCers, Anson Whaley and Dave Luciano. A few guys will be coming with wives and/or family. They will still get to experience the show. We do a lot of evening gatherings, highlighted by the Saturday swap/get together. We have tips and discounts for newbies. Do NOT buy passes or tickets until you talk to a National regular. Start saving now, if you have not started saving already. Mike Rich ================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 18:30:10 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master From: ShoelessWes Richard, i almost had trouble getting to sleep last night because of this. Wes Shepard > On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:33 PM, richard dingman wrote: > There are easily more than 700 but it depends very much on what each individual collector considers a "unique card" - variation or error or print difference or defect or whatever you want to call them. > I have a list of many at > https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home/topps-variations-1960---1969 > and I have a list of many more that I have not yet added to these lists because I have seen them but haven't yet acquired the cards. > Topps Variations (1960 - 1969) -- updated 3/21/18 ... > sites.google.com > Richard Dingman's baseball card wantlist and tradables > Best, > Richard Dingman > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:33 PM > To: Grant Rainsley > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master > I try not to use the term =E2variation=E2=99 loosely. I also recognize printing defects, or errors, or printing differences. I like the term =E2unique=E2=99 cards. > In good conscience, i can=E2=99t consider the venezuelans as part of the master set. If that=E2=99s bad, i=E2=99m sorry. > Can any other of you master set, variation type collectors give a second =E2Aye=E2=99 to (698) individual, unique cards making the 1962 Topps master set? > Wes Shepard > On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Rainsley wrote: >> That=E2=99s my count too, depending on which opinions you count as towhat is a variation and what isn=E2=99t, and what is just a lousy print=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6I wonder if there will ever be a consensus, perhaps not=E2=A6=E2=A6.. I=E2=99m happy with 698. I=E2=99ll go dog-balls if someone comes up with 699. >> Grant >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: April 19, 2018 2:05 PM >> To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master >> My binder shows there are 698 unique individual cards in the 1962 Topps master set. Are there any more? Does this calculation check out? >> Wes Shepard >> Virus-free. www.avg.com ================= Date: 21 Apr 2018 01:17:25 +0000 To: Subject: Good price on 1959 Football Set From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2018 20:35:53 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master From: Yahoo =82. Wes if you need someone to talk to I will Listen!. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2018, at 18:30, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Richard, i almost had trouble getting to sleep last night because of this. > Wes Shepard >> On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:33 PM, richard dingman wrote: >> There are easily more than 700 but it depends very much on what each individual collector considers a "unique card" - variation or error or print difference or defect or whatever you want to call them. >> I have a list of many at >> https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home/topps-variations-1960---1969 >> and I have a list of many more that I have not yet added to these lists because I have seen them but haven't yet acquired the cards. >> Topps Variations (1960 - 1969) -- updated 3/21/18 ... >> sites.google.com >> Richard Dingman's baseball card wantlist and tradables >> Best, >> Richard Dingman >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:33 PM >> To: Grant Rainsley >> Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master >> I try not to use the term =E2variation=E2=99 loosely. I also recognize printing defects, or errors, or printing differences. I like the term =E2unique=E2=99 cards. >> In good conscience, i can=E2=99t consider the venezuelans as part of the master set. If that=E2=99s bad, i=E2=99m sorry. >> Can any other of you master set, variation type collectors give a second=E2Aye=E2=99 to (698) individual, unique cards making the 1962 Topps master set? >> Wes Shepard >> On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Rainsley wrote: >>> That=E2=99s my count too, depending on which opinions you count as to what is a variation and what isn=E2=99t, and what is just a lousy print=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6I wonder if there will ever be a consensus, perhaps not=E2=A6=E2=A6.. I=E2=99m happy with 698. I=E2=99ll go dog-balls if someone comes up with 699. >>> Grant >>> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Sent: April 19, 2018 2:05 PM >>> To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master >>> My binder shows there are 698 unique individual cards in the 1962 Toppsmaster set. Are there any more? Does this calculation check out? >>> Wes Shepard >>> Virus-free. www.avg.com ================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 03:17:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master From: richard dingman ================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 03:48:02 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master From: Ken M Wes, I try to refrain from looking at Richard's lists to protect my own sanity. Here's what I have in my set:598 base cards86 green tints (keep in mind Reniff is misnumbered)7 checklists2 logo variations (Buhl and Tasby)1 misnumbered card (Reniff portrait)That comes to 694 plus the paper contest insert. I don't like to include all the blobs, splotches, print lines, cut lines, toning and color differences, ect. as that would make the set total approach infinity. I chalk up a lot of the cards on Richard's list to printing nuances and quality control - again, for sanity purposes. However, if I were strict about that, I probably wouldn't include most of the green tints other than the ones with pose variations (and some of the checklists) but here I am... I think the only reason I did include them was that they are all cropped differently, resulting in a "new" photo being used... Well, that and OBC peer pressure ;-) Good luck with your set, Ken M - I was kidding about the paper contest insert. Gotcha! Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 11:18 PMTo: Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master LOL.So many cards, so little time... From: Yahoo > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 8:35 PM To: ShoelessWes Cc: richard dingman; Grant Rainsley; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master 😂. Wes if you need someone to talk to I will Listen!. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2018, at 18:30, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Richard, i almost had trouble getting to sleep last night because of this. Wes Shepard On Apr 19, 2018, at 11:33 PM, richard dingman wrote: There are easily more than 700 but it depends very much on what each individual collector considers a "unique card" - variation or error or print difference or defect or whatever you want to call them.I have a list of many at https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home/topps-variations-1960---1969and I have a list of many more that I have not yet added to these lists because I have seen them but haven't yet acquired the cards. Topps Variations (1960 - 1969) -- updated 3/21/18 ...sites.google.comRichard Dingman's baseball card wantlist and tradables Best,Richard Dingman From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ShoelessWeswwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:33 PM To: Grant Rainsley Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master I try not to use the term ‘variation’ loosely. I also recognize printing defects, or errors, or printing differences. I like the term ‘unique’ cards. In good conscience, i can’t consider the venezuelans as part of the master set. If that’s bad, i’m sorry. Can any other of you master set, variation type collectors give a second ‘Aye’ to (698) individual, unique cards making the 1962 Topps master set? Wes Shepard On Apr 19, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Rainsley wrote: That’s my count too, depending on which opinions you count as to what is a variation and what isn’t, and what is just a lousy print………I wonder if there will ever be a consensus, perhaps not…….. I’m happy with 698. I’ll go dog-balls if someone comes up with 699. Grant From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: April 19, 2018 2:05 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 62 master My binder shows there are 698 unique individual cards in the 1962 Topps master set. Are there any more? Does this calculation check out? Wes Shepard Virus-free. www.avg.com Posted by: richard dingman > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Visit Your Group • Privacy • ================= To: Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:33:27 -0500 Subject: Postcards shows? mining for tin cans From: "George Vrechek" If you have always wondered what it is like for a sports card collector to go to a postcard show, here's an exclusive OBC report. Jim Taylor travels the country and does a few dozen shows each year. The Chicago show this weekend had about 25 dealers in a small hotel meeting room outside the city. The average age of dealers and attendees must be about 65, with a boy/girl ratio of about 63/35. The hey-days of postcards were probably 1905 to 1970. There are likely 40 to 50 collectors in the room at peak time. It costs $4 to get in. Since postcard dealers will have some arcade cards which I collect, I have been making some of these bi-annual shows. Postcard dealers divide their inventory geographically and by subject for those cards that are not specific to a location. Subject categories include famous people, comic, pinups, flags, flowers, and many other subjects. Cards of sports and stadiums are in with the subjects rather than sorted geographically. Sports will include fishing, bowling, water skiing and other stuff that may not be of interest. After wading through a lot of cards you may find baseball or football postcards from post-1981 from TCMA, team postcards, player photo cards, baseball HOF cards and some exhibit reprints. Everything is postcard size, if not an actual postcard. If you keep looking you'll likely find a few pre-1981 baseball exhibit cards, boxing exhibit cards, and a few (very few) older postcards of baseball players. In general, everything is priced about the same, somewhere between $1 and $5. There is a lot of cardboard for dealers to lug. There are some expensive cards that look like real photos or rare views but they didn't generate any interest at all from me. There doesn't seem to be much negotiating unless you are buying lots of stuff (300 cards). Exhibit cards of common baseball players (Billy Goodman) will be overpriced at $5. An exhibit of a difficult card (1948 football) will be underpriced at $5, but they don't pop up very often. You will occasionally stumble on a dealer with actual trading cards, like Spic and Span Braves or 1954 Bowmans and the prices can be pretty good. I bought all they had in both cases a few years ago. It isn't like mining for gold, but more like mining for tin cans. At this last show, I found all of one baseball card, a 1954 Topps common. However I did buy a 1910 Roth & Langley comic baseball postcard getting my set list down to 5 cards. I also bought one reasonably priced exhibit boxer, 30 exhibit cards of actors and actresses (famous people) and one old exhibit card pin-up. I spent $51 for 43 cards, of which only two I actually needed. I was back on the street in 90 minutes. When I got home from my 3 hour excursion (for 2 cards) my mail included 9 cards I needed from Taylor Schock. Maybe I picked up a postcard that Taylor needs. I'll have to check. But what the heck, I'm retired and it looks like postcard shows are a good way of keeping our seniors off the streets. For information of where the shows of this promoter are, go to: http://www.courthousesquare.net/postcardnews.vol14no4.htm George Vrechek ================= Date: 21 Apr 2018 16:21:16 +0000 To: Subject: Waivers 1922 W573 Dave Bancroft From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: 21 Apr 2018 21:45:05 +0000 To: Subject: Not going to Cleveland...and happy about it?? From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 05:02:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waivers 1922 W573 Dave Bancroft From: JAY TYSVER Considerig I posted this originally 18 hours earlier, this is already gone. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 11:21:16 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Waivers 1922 W573 Dave Bancroft Picked this up on waivers in the last year from an OBCer. Available to the first to claim. Is in poor condition and cut out. If this actually gets posted, I=92ll include pics. Jay Tysver ================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 06:52:35 -0400 To: b_betza@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Not going to Cleveland...and happy about it?? From: Michael Rich Congratulations to your family. On behalf of everyone please thank your son on his perseverance in wanting to serve our country! Mike Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2018, at 5:45 PM, b_betza@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent a similar ramble to Ken but wanted to share with all: > I can't go to the National after all and I'm actually pretty happy about that!! > (this is where the gasps of the audience are followed by a well placed commercial > My son has been trying to enlist in the Marines for what seems like forever. Between switching from Coast Guard, breaking his foot playing soccer, a false positive diagnosis for a genetic disorder (proved false by numerousmedical tests), a disqualification for astigmatism, filing a waiver since vision is correctable, fi nding out the waiver was botched after waiting 3 months, refiling the waiver, getting another eye exam, being told the waiver wouldn't apply to active duty (that he wants), to being told --finally--that the waiver was approved for active duty---happy days!! > He goes to swear in -- and is given a report date to boot camp of 5/7. Great news since he has been wanting to set out on his own for over a year--then I looked online for his anticipated graduation date. 13 week boot camp puts him at--you guessed it--August 3rd!! So I can't be in Cleveland and Parris Island (I looked it up--not possible :)) > So once in a lifetime opportunity trumps the once every f ew years National at this point. I may put some bird dog calls out and will probably hit the Philly show in the Fall with my saved $$. Unless he gets delayed---andknowing the military so far it is possible!!! > Let's just say I'm a really proud Dad this weekend. A little nervous too--but don't tell him :) > Brian Betza ================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:28:36 -0400 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans From: Mike Glasser If the ratio of boys/girls is 63/35, what accounts for the other 2%? Now I'm really curious. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 21, 2018 10:33 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans If you have always wondered what it is like for a sports card collector to go to a postcard show, here=E2=99s an exclusive OBC report. Jim Taylor travels the country and does a few dozen shows each year. The Chicago show this weekend had about 25 dealers in a small hotel meeting room outside the city. The average age of dealers and attendees must be about 65, with a boy/girl ratio of about 63/35. The hey-days of postcards were probably 1905 to1970. There are likely 40 to 50 collectors in the room at peak time. It costs $4 to get in. Since postcard dealers will have some arcade cards which I collect, I have been making some of these bi-annual shows. Postcard dealers divide their inventory geographically and by subject for those cards that are not specific to a location. Subject categories include famous people, comic, pinups, flags, flowers, and many other subjects. Cards of sports and sta diums are in with the subjects rather than sorted geographically. Sports will include fishing, bowling, water skiing and other stuff that may not be of interest. After wading through a lot of cards you may find baseball or football postcards from post-1981 from TCMA, team postcards, player photo cards, baseballHOF cards and some exhibit reprints. Everything is postcard size, if not an actual postcard. If you keep looking you=E2=99ll likely find a few pre-1981 baseball exhibit cards, boxing exhibit cards, and a few (very few) older postcards of baseball players. In general, everything is priced about the same, somewhere between $1 and $5. There is a lot of cardboard for dealers to lug. There are some expensive cards that look like real photos or rare views but they didn=E2=99t generate any interest at all from me. There doesn=E2=99t seem to be much negotiating unless you are buying lots of stuff (300 cards). Exhibit cards of common baseball players (Billy Goodman) will be overpriced at $5. An exhibit of a difficult card (1948 football) will be underpriced at $5, but they don=E2=99t pop up very often. You will occasionally stumble on a dealer with actual trading cards, like Spic and Span Braves or 1954 Bowmans and the prices can be pretty good. I bought all they had in both cases a few years ago. It isn=E2=99t like mining for gold, but more like mining for tin cans. At this last show, I found all of one baseball card, a 1954 Topps common. However I did buy a 1910 Roth & Langley comic baseball postcard getting my set list down to 5 cards. I also bought one reasonably priced exhibit boxer,30 exhibit cards of actors and actresses (famous people) and one old exhibit card pin-up. I spent $51 for 43 cards, of which only two I actually needed. I was back on the street in 90 minutes. When I got home from my 3 hou rexcursion (for 2 cards) my mail included 9 cards I needed from Taylor Schock. Maybe I picked up a postcard that Taylor needs. I=E2=99ll have to check. But what the heck, I=E2=99m retired and it looks like postcard shows area good way of keeping our seniors off the streets. For information of where the shows of this promoter are, go to: http://www.courthousesquare.net/postcardnews.vol14no4.htm George Vrechek ================= To: "'Mike Glasser'" , Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 08:57:03 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans From: "George Vrechek" Alert reader, Mike Glasser, caught the typo. I changed my mind in mid-typing as to whether the ratio of boys to girls was 66/33, with 1% missing, or 65/35. I settled for 65/35, but typed 63/35 with 2% apparently declining to participate. This rare Vrechek error reminds me of an excerpt I just came across from one of Jefferson Burdick=E2=99s letters to Lionel Carter about the printing of the 1960 ACC, =E2=9CI guess there are a few errors scattered about, but what the heck - who is 100% perfect.=E2=9D George Vrechek From: Mike Glasser [mailto:miglasser@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 8:29 AM To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans If the ratio of boys/girls is 63/35, what accounts for the other 2%? Now I'm really curious. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 ================= To: "vrechek@ameritech.net" , Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 16:30:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans From: richard dingman Sign of the times. Get ready for the future. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:28 AM To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans If the ratio of boys/girls is 63/35, what accounts for the other 2%? Now I'm really curious. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 21, 2018 10:33 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans If you have always wondered what it is like for a sports card collector to go to a postcard show, here=92s an exclusive OBC report. Jim Taylor travelsthe country and does a few dozen shows each year. The Chicago show this weekend had about 25 dealers in a small hotel meeting room outside the city. The average age of dealers and attendees must be about 65, with a boy/girl ratio of about 63/35. The hey-days of postcards were probably 1905 to 1970.There are likely 40 to 50 collectors in the room at peak time. It costs $4to get in. Since postcard dealers will have some arcade cards which I collect, I have been making some of these bi-annual shows. Postcard dealers divide their inventory geographically and by subject for those cards that are not specific to a location. Subject categories include famous people, comic, pinups, flags, flowers, and many other subjects. Cards of sports and sta diums are in with the subjects rather than sorted geographically. Sports will include fishing, bowling, water skiing and other stuff that may not be of interest. After wading through a lot of cards you may find baseball or football postcards from post-1981 from TCMA, team postcards, player photo cards, baseballHOF cards and some exhibit reprints. Everything is postcard size, if not an actual postcard. If you keep looking you=92ll likely find a few pre-1981 baseball exhibit cards, boxing exhibit cards, and a few (very few) older postcards of baseballplayers. In general, everything is priced about the same, somewhere between $1 and $5. There is a lot of cardboard for dealers to lug. There are someexpensive cards that look like real photos or rare views but they didn=92tgenerate any interest at all from me. There doesn=92t seem to be much negotiating unless you are buying lots of stuff (300 cards). Exhibit cards of common baseball players (Billy Goodman) will be overpriced at $5. An exhibit of a difficult card (1948 football) will be underpriced at $5, but they don=92t pop up very often. You will occasionally stumble on a dealer with actual trading cards, like Spic and Span Braves or 1954 Bowmans and the prices can be pretty good. I bought all they had in both cases a few years ago. It isn=92t like mining for gold, but more like mining for tin cans. At this last show, I found all of one baseball card, a 1954 Topps common. However I did buy a 1910 Roth & Langley comic baseball postcard getting my set list down to 5 cards. I also bought one reasonably priced exhibit boxer,30 exhibit cards of actors and actresses (famous people) and one old exhibit card pin-up. I spent $51 for 43 cards, of which only two I actually needed. I was back on the street in 90 minutes. When I got home from my 3 hou rexcursion (for 2 cards) my mail included 9 cards I needed from Taylor Schock. Maybe I picked up a postcard that Taylor needs. I=92ll have to check. But what the heck, I=92m retired and it looks like postcard shows are a good way of keeping our seniors off the streets. For information of where the shows of this promoter are, go to: http://www.courthousesquare.net/postcardnews.vol14no4.htm Postcard News From CourthouseSquare Welcome to the 14th Year of Our Newsletter, Postcard News from Courthouse Square!! _____ Load Those Postcards in the Car, Come on out to a Show! George Vrechek ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 18:40:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans From: richard dingman I ask pardon for the ambiguity, but I was not referring to math errors, rather that strict gender categories have become blurred a bit these days, andthat this blurring will likely increase in the future as technologies openup even more possibilities. From: George Vrechek Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:01 PM To: 'richard dingman' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans Yes, poor math is abominable. From: richard dingman [mailto:brightair@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 11:31 AM To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans Sign of the times. Get ready for the future. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2018 9:28 AM To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans If the ratio of boys/girls is 63/35, what accounts for the other 2%? Now I'm really curious. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 21, 2018 10:33 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postcards shows? mining for tin cans If you have always wondered what it is like for a sports card collector to go to a postcard show, here=92s an exclusive OBC report. Jim Taylor travelsthe country and does a few dozen shows each year. The Chicago show this weekend had about 25 dealers in a small hotel meeting room outside the city. The average age of dealers and attendees must be about 65, with a boy/girl ratio of about 63/35. The hey-days of postcards were probably 1905 to 1970.There are likely 40 to 50 collectors in the room at peak time. It costs $4to get in. Since postcard dealers will have some arcade cards which I collect, I have been making some of these bi-annual shows. Postcard dealers divide their inventory geographically and by subject for those cards that are not specific to a location. Subject categories include famous people, comic, pinups, flags, flowers, and many other subjects. Cards of sports and sta diums are in with the subjects rather than sorted geographically. Sports will include fishing, bowling, water skiing and other stuff that may not be of interest. After wading through a lot of cards you may find baseball or football postcards from post-1981 from TCMA, team postcards, player photo cards, baseballHOF cards and some exhibit reprints. Everything is postcard size, if not an actual postcard. If you keep looking you=92ll likely find a few pre-1981 baseball exhibit cards, boxing exhibit cards, and a few (very few) older postcards of baseballplayers. In general, everything is priced about the same, somewhere between $1 and $5. There is a lot of cardboard for dealers to lug. There are someexpensive cards that look like real photos or rare views but they didn=92tgenerate any interest at all from me. There doesn=92t seem to be much negotiating unless you are buying lots of stuff (300 cards). Exhibit cards of common baseball players (Billy Goodman) will be overpriced at $5. An exhibit of a difficult card (1948 football) will be underpriced at $5, but they don=92t pop up very often. You will occasionally stumble on a dealer with actual trading cards, like Spic and Span Braves or 1954 Bowmans and the prices can be pretty good. I bought all they had in both cases a few years ago. It isn=92t like mining for gold, but more like mining for tin cans. At this last show, I found all of one baseball card, a 1954 Topps common. However I did buy a 1910 Roth & Langley comic baseball postcard getting my set list down to 5 cards. I also bought one reasonably priced exhibit boxer,30 exhibit cards of actors and actresses (famous people) and one old exhibit card pin-up. I spent $51 for 43 cards, of which only two I actually needed. I was back on the street in 90 minutes. When I got home from my 3 hou rexcursion (for 2 cards) my mail included 9 cards I needed from Taylor Schock. Maybe I picked up a postcard that Taylor needs. I=92ll have to check. But what the heck, I=92m retired and it looks like postcard shows are a good way of keeping our seniors off the streets. For information of where the shows of this promoter are, go to: http://www.courthousesquare.net/postcardnews.vol14no4.htm Postcard News From CourthouseSquare Welcome to the 14th Year of Our Newsletter, Postcard News from Courthouse Square!! _____ Load Those Postcards in the Car, Come on out to a Show! George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 14:53:47 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1979 Burger King dupes From: Anthony Have a #2 Munson and #21 Jackson Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:14:20 -0400 To: tradingbases@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, Subject: Looking for a new web site From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, I finally have had enough of my website's pop-ups I am looking for a reliable, Non-Pop-up, Easy to build website and free Any help would be appreciated Happy Trading, ================= Date: 23 Apr 2018 13:34:28 +0000 To: Subject: Article From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:25:19 -0400 To: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for a new web site From: Yahoo I love weebly. Not sure what pop up is (not very computer smart). But I was able to build a site pretty easy and it=E2=99s free. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2018, at 09:14, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi all, > I finally have had enough of my website's pop-ups > I am looking for a reliable, Non-Pop-up, Easy to build website and free > Any help would be appreciated > Happy Trading, > Kevin ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:08:43 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Shriner's Show this weekend From: Bob Donaldson The Shriner's show in Wilmington MA (30 minutes north of Boston) is this upcoming weekend - 4/24 to 4/29 http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/boston-2018/show-info Not quite as good as the November show, but still better than anything else in New England (and NY?) by far. I plan to go Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. I had thrown out the possibility of hosting a card swap if people were interested. Did not get too much of a response, I'll throw it out again. If people are interested I would love to host a card swap cookout, either Friday night or Sunday afternoon (can no longer do Sat night). Please LMK if interested. ================= Date: 23 Apr 2018 18:25:43 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for a new web site From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 15:37:14 -0500 Subject: Price Guide? From: "George Vrechek" Does anyone have a relatively current price guide that covers vintage and modern sports sets? SCD stopped publishing their complete guide 8 years ago and just sticks to vintage. I think only Beckett has such info now? George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 14:50:06 -0600 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? From: Geno Wagner I subscribe to Vintage Carp Prices, which tracks auction results of graded cards. I know most OBCers could care less about graded cards, but it=E2=99s a good barometer of a card=E2=99s value. It=E2=99s broken down into about ten condition grades, I think. The price is about $12/month. If you want to see what it looks like, you have to subscribe. Or you can email me your phone number and I=E2=99ll shoot you a screenshot so you cansee how it works. Take Care, Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2018, at 2:37 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does anyone have a relatively current price guide that covers vintage andmodern sports sets? SCD stopped publishing their complete guide 8 years ago and just sticks to vintage. I think only Beckett has such info now? > George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 18:22:26 -0400 To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Sounds fishy to me! -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: George Vrechek Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2018 4:50 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? I subscribe to Vintage Carp Prices, which tracks auction results of graded cards. I know most OBCers could care less about graded cards, but it=E2=99s a good barometer of a card=E2=99s value. It=E2=99s broken down into about ten condition grades, I think. The price is about $12/month. If you want to see what it looks like, you have to subscribe. Or you can email me your phone number and I=E2=99ll shoot you a screenshot so you cansee how it works. Take Care, Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2018, at 2:37 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Does anyone have a relatively current price guide that covers vintage and modern sports sets? SCD stopped publishing their complete guide 8 years ago and just sticks to vintage. I think only Beckett has such info now? George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:33:10 -0600 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? From: Geno Wagner Haha...yes, I get all my carp graded. And refrigerated, to keep the smell down. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2018, at 4:22 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sounds fishy to me! > -----Original Message----- > From: Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: George Vrechek > Cc: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2018 4:50 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? > I subscribe to Vintage Carp Prices, which tracks auction results of graded cards. I know most OBCers could care less about graded cards, but it=E2=99s a good barometer of a card=E2=99s value. It=E2=99s broken down into about ten condition grades, I think. The price is about $12/month.If you want to see what it looks like, you have to subscribe. Or you canemail me your phone number and I=E2=99ll shoot you a screenshot so you can see how it works. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2018, at 2:37 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech..net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does anyone have a relatively current price guide that covers vintage andmodern sports sets? SCD stopped publishing their complete guide 8 years ago and just sticks to vintage. I think only Beckett has such info now? > George Vrechek ================= To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:35:49 +0000 Subject: RE: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? From: "Prickett, Patrick" ================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:40:52 -0400 To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, vrechek@ameritech.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? From: Mike Glasser I use PSA's website www.psacard.com. It lists just about every series. Though it only shows values for slabbed cards at different grades, like George, I find it a great way to figure out relative values (I like slabbed cards). As well, though I'm sure it's old news, doing an advanced search on ebay to see what things are selling for is also a good way to get a quick idea. Good luck! Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: George Vrechek Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2018 4:50 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Guide? I subscribe to Vintage Carp Prices, which tracks auction results of graded cards. I know most OBCers could care less about graded cards, but it=E2=99s a good barometer of a card=E2=99s value. It=E2=99s broken down into about ten condition grades, I think. The price is about $12/month. If you want to see what it looks like, you have to subscribe. Or you can email me your phone number and I=E2=99ll shoot you a screenshot so you cansee how it works. Take Care, Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2018, at 2:37 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Does anyone have a relatively current price guide that covers vintage and modern sports sets? SCD stopped publishing their complete guide 8 years ago and just sticks to vintage. I think only Beckett has such info now? George Vrechek ================= To: , Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:34:37 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for a new web site From: "Sal Domino" Google sites. Free, easy to use. Just cut and paste your want list in and you are set. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/ From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 9:14 AM To: tradingbases@yahoogroups.com; vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; OCTraders@yahoogroups.com; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for a new web site Hi all, I finally have had enough of my website's pop-ups I am looking for a reliable, Non-Pop-up, Easy to build website and free Any help would be appreciated Happy Trading, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:46:01 +0000 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's Show this weekend From: Joel Freedman Hi Bob, I will see you there Friday afternoon. On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:16 AM Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > The Shriner's show in Wilmington MA (30 minutes north of Boston) is this > upcoming weekend - 4/24 to 4/29 > http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/boston-2018/show-info > Not quite as good as the November show, but still better than anything > else in New England (and NY?) by far. > I plan to go Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. I had thrown out the > possibility of hosting a card swap if people were interested. Did not get > too much of a response, I'll throw it out again. If people are interested > I would love to host a card swap cookout, either Friday night or Sunday > afternoon (can no longer do Sat night). Please LMK if interested. > thanks > Bob ================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:33:34 +0000 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's Show this weekend From: Matthew Glidden See you there Saturday morning! On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 6:46 AM Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Bob, I will see you there Friday afternoon. > Joel > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:16 AM Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> The Shriner's show in Wilmington MA (30 minutes north of Boston) is this >> upcoming weekend - 4/24 to 4/29 >> http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/boston-2018/show-info >> Not quite as good as the November show, but still better than anything >> else in New England (and NY?) by far. >> I plan to go Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. I had thrown out the >> possibility of hosting a card swap if people were interested. Did not get >> too much of a response, I'll throw it out again. If people are interested >> I would love to host a card swap cookout, either Friday night or Sunday >> afternoon (can no longer do Sat night). Please LMK if interested. >> thanks >> Bob ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:33:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's Show this weekend From: richard dingman Hope to be there Friday. Richard Dingman From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 10:08 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's Show this weekend The Shriner's show in Wilmington MA (30 minutes north of Boston) is this upcoming weekend - 4/24 to 4/29 http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/boston-2018/show-info Rich Altman's April 2018 Boston Sports Memorabilia Show Rich Altman, owner of Hollywood Collectibles and nationally renown Sports Fan and Memorabilia Dealer, is proud to announce the Dates and =93Starting Lineup=94 of Players scheduled to appear at his Spring 2018 Boston Show. Not quite as good as the November show, but still better than anything elsein New England (and NY?) by far. I plan to go Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. I had thrown out the possibility of hosting a card swap if people were interested. Did not get too much of a response, I'll throw it out again. If people are interested Iwould love to host a card swap cookout, either Friday night or Sunday afternoon (can no longer do Sat night). Please LMK if interested. ================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:01:55 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: new member From: Sean McGowan Because I am old, I will forget :) So, if you are reading this...Brian =E2=9CTony=E2=9D Levinson, you need to post a message here when you have your want list up :) Welcome aboard! Sean (1) ================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:54:51 -0400 To: Sean McGowan Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] new member From: Andy Huntoon Dilly Dilly! I second Sean's post! On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Sean McGowan seanobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Because I am old, I will forget :) So, if you are reading this...Brian > =E2=9CTony=E2=9D Levinson, > you need to post a message here when you have your want list up :) > Welcome aboard! > Sean (1) ================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:30:54 -0700 To: Ramblings Subject: Latest News about our Play (MUNGO!) and Book (DIAMOND STARS)... From: Peter Iversen Hi all - just wanted to update you all on the endeavor that started in 1997 as a 'Thank You' to OBC and after 20 years and a little has morphed into a Baseball Novel and a Play. It looks like everything is coming together in the next couple of weeks - a 4 performance run of MUNGO! with DIAMOND STARS - A Novel of the 1934 All Star Baseball Game coming right along side...! Below is a form letter I sent to 80 or so local friends that kind of explains the details. There is also information on our website - www.diamondstars.net - and I am trying to keep my Facebook page updated under my '*pen name*' - Marc Peter Reyna - I can hardly believe that this is happening - when I have the book in my hands I might pass out! Thanks to all of you for all the inspiration and support. SO glad to be a part of this group! Peter Iversen (aka Marc Peter Reyna...) +++++++++++++ Form Letter Below ++++++++++++++ I wanted to send you details about the show & the book (please excuse the form letter...). I hope you can make it... but if not please pass the word to anyone you know who might be interested - and send us all the positive energy you can in May! Thanks so much! Just when you thought it was safe to come out of the dugout...*MUNGO!* *Van Lingle Mungo Toes the Mound for 4 More Starts in May of =E218* You may know that Van has been spotted regularly, since his passing back in the 1980s in front of Goob=E2=99s Bar & Grill...located on Van Lingle Mungo Boulevard in his hometown of Pageland, South Carolina. The uninitiated may have imagined that Van was cadging a drink but, things are not always as they appear... Because this year may well be the year that Mungo winds up for his ultimate =E2payoff pitch=E2=99! So=E2=94here we are, doing a run of *MUNGO!* at The Complex Theater one more time. There are two reasons for this... - All six performances during the Hollywood Fringe Festival in June of 2017 were sell-outs and we know people missed our show as a result. - Our baseball novel (DIAMOND STARS) is going to see the light of day! To celebrate =E2=93 and to give thanks that our long wait for publication over =E2=93 and since Van is featured in the book...and... just because we like it =E2=93 we decided that Van Lingle Mungo should come alongside to celebrate with us! WHERE: The Complex =E2=93 Hollywood ...Ruby Theater 6476 Santa Monica Blvd., Hollywood, CA 90038 4 performances @ 8:00 pm=E2=94Friday May 11, Saturday May 12 & Friday May Saturday May 19. Each evening begins at 8:00 with a one hour performance of MUNGO! followed immediately by a presentation party for =E2=9C*DIAMOND STARS - A Novel of 1934 All-Star Baseball Game*=E2=9D. Book signings =E2=93 paired with refreshments (including Cracker Jacks!)will part of every performance... For this celebration/event we are discounting copies of *DIAMOND STARS* =E2=93 every book sold for the duration of the run will be $9.99 (regularly $12.99) Tickets ($12.00) and information are available at: https://mungo.brownpapertickets.com Looking forward to seeing you there! ...in person and in spirit. Jim & Peter *You can read more about Van Lingle Mungo in :* * DIAMOND STARS =E2=93 A Novel the 1934 All-Star Game* * ================= Date: 25 Apr 2018 14:30:47 +0000 To: Subject: Decent deal for 1973-74 basketball lot From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:52:28 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, ansonwhaley@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Article From: Matthew Glidden Terrific work, thanks Anson! He committed an amazing amount of time to that In the vein of *long reads*, I published an article last week that's been two years in the making and connects some dots between Topps' creation of the All-Star Rookie team and their competition with Fleer, among other business dealings. I got there by investigating why Topps was still talking about the phrase "Selected by the Youth of America" in 2016 for their Anthology reprint set. http://www.number5typecollection.com/2018/04/five-whys-selected-by-youth-of-america.html For those who have time, I'm interested in feedback on the specifics, in case I connected any dots in a way that doesn't make sense. On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 9:44 AM ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Greetings all - > I don't typically plug articles from my website on here but I recently had > the chance to speak (via email) with the family of George Groves, who > produced the 1924 Walter Mails game card set. For those unfamiliar, it's an > old deck of cards which were used as part of a game. It's one of the more > popular pre-war game sets because it featured real players on them. It's > also pretty rare and much tougher to find than things like the 1906 Fan > Craze cards. > Through the exchange of numerous emails for the past month, his > granddaughter and daughter supplied me with all sorts of interesting > documents about the set, how he marketed it, produced it, and his plans for > a second set. One of the interesting things was finding signed release > forms from players for the second set, including Honus Wagner. The funny > thing was that the woman was not familiar with the names and could not read > the signature. She initially gave me a list of players with the name 'Honus > McGuere' but once I saw the document, I could tell right away what it was. > Despite my best efforts, I could not keep it below 3,000 words so it is a > bit of a read and history lesson. So while many of you not familiar with > the set may have no interest, I thought I'd share it with the group as a > few of you might. > https://prewarcards.com/2018/04/23/the-long-twisted-story-of-the-1924-walter-mails-game-cards/ > Have a great week. > Anson ================= Date: 25 Apr 2018 14:53:43 -0700 To: Subject: 1961 Mays From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:45:13 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Obc at the ballpark From: mzentko ================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:36:14 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Test message emailed to OBC-Ramblings server From: Wayne Delia Test post email sent to OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Tonight's excitement: Within 1/2 hour, two different Boston/Toronto games went from "Boston up by 1" to "Tied" to "Toronto up by 1" - then, 1/2 hour later, both games went to "Tied" and then "Boston up by 1". I had the Bruins on the TV, and the Red Sox on my laptop. ================= Date: 26 Apr 2018 02:34:07 +0000 To: Subject: Test Message to diagnose problems with Yahoo Groups From: wayne.m.delia@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:45:07 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: inexpensive bill and Bob Braves postcard From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Ebay link to an inexpensive Bill & Bob postcard--along with a few other autographed items. https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Atlanta-Milwaukee-Braves-Autographed-Photograph-Postcard-Guaranteed-Authentic/372287303749?hash=item56ae0d7045:g:T9EAAOSwXfVa1pEG ================= Date: 26 Apr 2018 16:37:06 +0000 To: Subject: 1934-36 Diamond Stars From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:52:39 -0400 To: Denise Mead Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] inexpensive bill and Bob Braves postcard From: Anson Whaley And not sure if anyone saw, but eBay has a 15% off special now until 1 p.m. PST through the mobile app. You have to buy and pay for using the app. $50 off maximum. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:45 AM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Ebay link to an inexpensive Bill & Bob postcard--along with a few other > autographed items. > https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Atlanta-Milwaukee-Braves- > Autographed-Photograph-Postcard-Guaranteed-Authentic/372287303749?hash > item56ae0d7045:g:T9EAAOSwXfVa1pEG ================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:53:25 -0400 To: Denise Mead Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] inexpensive bill and Bob Braves postcard From: Anson Whaley Should also mention that you need to enter the promo code Plan2Save On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Anson Whaley > And not sure if anyone saw, but eBay has a 15% off special now until 1 > p.m. PST through the mobile app. You have to buy and pay for using the app. > $50 off maximum. > Cap > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:45 AM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Ebay link to an inexpensive Bill & Bob postcard--along with a few other >> autographed items. >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Atlanta-Milwaukee-Braves-Autograp >> hed-Photograph-Postcard-Guaranteed-Authentic/372287303 >> 749?hashitem56ae0d7045:g:T9EAAOSwXfVa1pEG ================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:59:01 -0400 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1934-36 Diamond Stars From: Anson Whaley I'm very passively working on it, Jay. Meaning, if I see them for around $5-$6 I usually grab them. It's hard, at least online, to get them that cheap, but sometimes you do and there are lots of unslabbed examples. I've got about 20 for that price. Once I get through some other projects, I'll probably look at it closer and pay more. As you can imagine, mine are lower grade. I really like them as well. On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 12:37 PM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I have been looking for a pre-war set to build and complete. I love the > artwork on the 1934-36 Diamond Stars set. Also, there aren't too many cards > and none of the cards are exorbitantly out of range to buy. > All of my buying has been online as there are no shows in Central Alabama. > Since I plan on going to the National, what kind of stuff can I expect to > find at this show? Does this set show up in Discount Boxes? Are most of > them slabbed? Who collect or works on the set in OBC? > Jay Tysver ================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:26:23 -0400 To: JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1934-36 Diamond Stars From: mikesportsfan@aol.com The high numbers can be a real challenge and many of the guys are chasingthe master set of 192 cards. As for who is working on the set, you are 1 of 28 guys in OBC listed on the Who Collects What that has this on their list. You can find some of the commons in bargain bins for $10 or less. One OBC dealer who routinely has a few in his bargain bins is William Chappelle. Steve will introduce you at the National so he knows you are in OBC. I personally found #50 Ott a challenge and notice him on multiple lists. MacWubben killed the base set for me at last year's National with the Ott. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 12:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1934-36 Diamond Stars I have been looking for a pre-war set to build and complete. I love the artwork on the 1934-36 Diamond Stars set. Also, there aren't too many cards and none of the cards are exorbitantly out of range to buy. All of my buying has been online as there are no shows in Central Alabama. Since I plan on going to the National, what kind of stuff can I expect to find at this show? Does this set show up in Discount Boxes? Are most of themslabbed? Who collect or works on the set in OBC? Jay Tysver ================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:25:36 -0700 To: yahoogroups Subject: 1963 Canadian Post Cereal CFL Football Album w/ 12 Cards + Stickers From: Rick Lyons Thought this might interest the big post collectors in the group. I have been buying CFL cards for awhile now and these albums come up once in awhile so thought I would bid on it, only has 12 cards in it. In case you guys didn=E2=99t know it existed thought I would share. Rick Look at this on eBay 1963 Canadian Post Cereal CFL Football Album w/ 12 Cards + Stickers Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 27 Apr 2018 22:08:04 +0000 To: Subject: going out tomorrow From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 27 Apr 2018 21:55:26 +0000 To: Subject: 1968 From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:02:39 -0400 To: rlabs1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 From: ShoelessWes Awesome! I think the 68s are cool, a good set to finish! Wes Shepard > On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:55 PM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > the 1968Topps set is now history(except for upgrades) - completed today thanks to getting the Mantle #280. > Another one bites the dust. > Take care, > Richard Labs ================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:06:22 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 From: Andy Huntoon Congrats Richard!!! I love hearing about sets biting the dust in OBC. Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 7:02 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Awesome! I think the 68s are cool, a good set to finish! > Wes Shepard > On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:55 PM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > the 1968Topps set is now history(except for upgrades) - completed today > thanks to getting the Mantle #280. > Another one bites the dust. > Take care, > Richard Labs ================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:08:03 -0400 To: rlabs1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 From: Doug DeJong Congrats! That was the very year I started buying cards as a kid, and theset is awesome in my eyes! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:55 PM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > the 1968Topps set is now history(except for upgrades) - completed today thanks to getting the Mantle #280. > Another one bites the dust. > Take care, > Richard Labs ================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:39:26 -0400 To: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 From: Jake Brewer Congrats on completing the =E268 set my man! How many completed sets does that put you at?? -Jake =E2=9CThe Kid=E2=9D Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2018, at 7:08 PM, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats! That was the very year I started buying cards as a kid, and the set is awesome in my eyes! > Doug > Sent from my iPad >> On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:55 PM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> the 1968Topps set is now history(except for upgrades) - completed today thanks to getting the Mantle #280. >> Another one bites the dust. >> Take care, >> Richard Labs ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 02:16:36 +0000 Subject: Sixties or Seventies? From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 07:34:06 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Sixties or Seventies? From: Mike Glasser Good luck Aaron! I=E2=99d love to finish off my remaining 70 lists. More importantly I=E2=99d love to clean out my remaining 70s dupes! Mike Glasser The Goddard School 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD. 21152 7300 Old Pimlico Rd Baltimore, MD 21209 > On Apr 27, 2018, at 10:16 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Okay, we=E2=99re moving TOMORROW MORNING and I=E2=99m in the =E2=9Cthroes=E2=9D of packing (throw it away, throw it in a box, throw yourhands up at the sheer lunacy of it all). So I decided to take a break and ask you, the wise sages of OBC, a question: > If I did another live, shared, editable wantlist coordination project, would you rather do > SUMMER in the SIXTIES > or > SUMMER in the SEVENTIES? > I=E2=99d like to see as much participation as possible from you all, so what do you think? If there=E2=99s enough discussion and response, I will plan to start it the first day of summer. Maybe a little sooner. All depends on how long it takes to get my cards organized after the move (Did I mention that=E2=99s TOMORROW MORNING!)... > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2018 09:45:48 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: RE: new member! From: Sean McGowan The point of getting your list posted is so WE can send stuff to YOU! :) And, never feel bad about not being able to hit a list... how do you think my list got that way? On my end of the scale there is more going out than in... that is what this is all about. I'd love the WS cards, if they are on the want list... but don't send dupes... my wife would not be happy :) And, there is no rush here... we are all on different schedules. Just enjoy the giving and receiving, and read the backs of the cards. This is supposed to be fun :) Good luck Brian! Go OBC! 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