================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:18:13 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Big hit From: Rick This is going to be a boring ramble for most and only Marshall maybe the only one to relate to the significance. This is about a checklist, you all are groaning about now really a checklist!!! Ugh This isn't the most expensive Venezuelan card but it could be the rarest. For some reason the 3rd series checklist is super hard to find I have neverseen one since I've been collecting them. On net 54 there's a thread aboutVenezuelans I look at every day and josh van pelt posted he needed this card to finish his set he's a guy I have traded with a few times and he is collecting four 62 sets. We email back and forth to keep us both informed of our recent purchases. A gentleman posted he had one he would trade or sell so I assumed he boughtit from him cause he out bids me most of the time. Then about a week laterBrian posted something about needing a 69 stamp panel with Mays on it he needed so I responded I had it and if he wanted to trade for the checklist. He still had it and he said sure he's only a Mays collector has a psa registry for his collection and it was one of the last items he needed to finishhis run. He bought a whole 62 set just to get the # 18 mantle/Mays card. Ok I get it your all saying you traded a Mays panel for a checklist! Not sure if the shortage is from the changing cards on the sheet when they added card # 199-200 or just Venezuelans threw them away or what. From talking to collectors and my Venezuelan contacts I believe this could be the hardest card in any set or year to get. Although I'm extremely excited to get this card I'm wondering if I should use it to get "bigger/more expensive" cards for it and hope to find another some day? Any thoughts? ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:31:08 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Waivers From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I went through the want-lists, and have these =E2=9Cdupes-box=E2=9D leftovers that need new homes. These are all available, please stake your claims. 1962 Topps football bucks #13 Jerry Reichow 2. 1962 Post baseball #6 Roger Maris (tape damaged front) 3. 1973 Topps blue checklist (Brewers) 4. 1972 Topps football #100 Joe Namath (Sal I just sent my other one to you). 5, 1962 Topps stamp Killebrew 6. 1962 Topps baseball #147 GREEN TINT 7. 1965 Topps football =E2=9Ctall-boy=E2=9D #170 8, 1962 Jello baseball #194 Marv Throneberry 9. 1934-36 Diamond star #80 Lou Chiozza (skinned no back) 10. 1977 Wonderbread =E2=9CClose Encounters=E2=9D starter set of fivediff 11. 1965 Fleer baseball weird-ohs #6 12. 1981 Tops basketball #102 Bill Cartwright 13. 1936 (R-61) Gov=E2=99t Agents VS Public Enemies #A215 14. (2) 1950s exhibit wrestlers Pete Bartu and Nature Boy Rogers 15. 1947-66 exhibits (take any or all) Carrasquel (leaping), Majesty, Mitchell, Torgeson (plain uniform). 16. 1950s exhibits =E2=9CJet Planes=E2=9D (Printed in USA) eight different 17. Billboard exhibit Andy Williams (no name at top on back) 18. exhibit actors(?) with salutation Walter Pidgeon, Dennis Morgan take one or both. 19. exhibit =E2=9CPrinted in USA western actors(?) James Dreary, Allen Case take one or both. 20. I=E2=99ll take anything leftover ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:34:59 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: 1932 Bulgarian sports Photos From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Is anyone collecting this set? Does anyone want a starter set 18 diff? I see Ice Hockey, Rugby, Bicycling,Tennis, ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:45:47 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Big hit [2 Attachments] From: Ken M Rick,  Not knowing a thing about Venezuelans, I'd say you got the "white whale" of Venezuelans. It's been on your list for how long? I'd hold onto that sucker like Gollum in Lord of the Rings. You can always look for an upgrade and the trade it :-D Congrats! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 8:21 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Big hit [2 Attachments] ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:18:01 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re: Big Hit From: LAWRENCE TIPTON How can you tell it=E2=99s a Venezuelan card? ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:30:07 -0700 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Big Hit From: Rick One is doesn't have the printed in USA on bottom Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2017, at 6:18 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > How can you tell it=E2=99s a Venezuelan card? > Guru ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:56:27 -0700 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Big hit [2 Attachments] From: John Stamper Sounds like you should keep it. That card doesn't come around often enough to let it go. John Stamper > On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] > All > This is going to be a boring ramble for most and only Marshall maybe the only one to relate to the significance. This is about a checklist, you all are groaning about now really a checklist!!! Ugh > This isn't the most expensive Venezuelan card but it could be the rarest.For some reason the 3rd series checklist is super hard to find I have never seen one since I've been collecting them. On net 54 there's a thread about Venezuelans I look at every day and josh van pelt posted he needed this card to finish his set he's a guy I have traded with a few times and he is collecting four 62 sets. We email back and forth to keep us both informed ofour recent purchases. > A gentleman posted he had one he would trade or sell so I assumed he bought it from him cause he out bids me most of the time. Then about a week later Brian posted something about needing a 69 stamp panel with Mays on it heneeded so I responded I had it and if he wanted to trade for the checklist. > He still had it and he said sure he's only a Mays collector has a psa registry for his collection and it was one of the last items he needed to finish his run. He bought a whole 62 set just to get the # 18 mantle/Mays card.Ok I get it your all saying you traded a Mays panel for a checklist! > Not sure if the shortage is from the changing cards on the sheet when they added card # 199-200 or just Venezuelans threw them away or what. > From talking to collectors and my Venezuelan contacts I believe this could be the hardest card in any set or year to get. Although I'm extremely excited to get this card I'm wondering if I should use it to get "bigger/more expensive" cards for it and hope to find another some day? Any thoughts? > Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 18:56:23 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Raleigh Card Show Dec 8-9-10 From: Doug DeJong I have blocked my calendar for it! Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2017, at 4:42 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Any interest in a OBC =E2=9Cmeet-up=E2=9D for this (advertised) 250table > I saw a Marriott within 10 miles of the show $80 a night (free breakfast)other hotels seem reasonable. > Friday: drive/(fly?) to Raleigh show open 2-7 check in to hotel > Saturday show hours 9-5 > Sunday check out of hotels show hours 10-4 or just head home. > I think this is the =E2=9Cbig=E2=9D show for =E2=9CInside Pitch Promotions=E2=9D > I=E2=99ll probably go and have room for some =E2=9Ccrashers=E2=9D. > Guru ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:11:19 -0400 Subject: OBC Fantasy FB From: "Bob Donaldson" Do we have a league? Is it too late to sign up? Am I already signed up :) ? ================= To: Bob Donaldson , Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 11:29:28 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB From: mark zentkovich We drafted 8-19, I see you in the list of managers. It was same folks as last year If you log on to yahoo sports you should see your team Thanks, mark Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:44 AM To: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB Do we have a league? Is it too late to sign up? Am I already signed up =E2=BA ? ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 12:52:18 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] From: "Bob Donaldson" Confirming that I have a team. I guess emails on the draft never went out or I missed them From: Matthew Glidden [mailto:glidden.matthew@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 12:39 PM To: Bob Donaldson ; OBC Ramblings ; mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] Confirming that (like Bob) Yahoo sent a FFL reminder today. I logged in andchecked for my team and there it was. Yahoo must've missed something when they sent the reminders. On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: [Attachment(s) from mark zentkovich included below] We drafted 8-19, I see you in the list of managers. It was same folks as last year If you log on to yahoo sports you should see your team Thanks, mark Sent from Mail for Windows From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:44 AM To: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB Do we have a league? Is it too late to sign up? Am I already signed up :) ? ================= Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 13:05:32 -0500 To: Matthew Glidden , Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] From: mzentko ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 12:37:54 -0400 To: mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] From: Joel Freedman my team already exists!! LOLOL On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:29 PM, mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_-6790536597244218580_TopText> from mark zentkovich > included below] > We drafted 8-19, I see you in the list of managers. > It was same folks as last year > If you log on to yahoo sports you should see your team > Thanks, mark > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > *From: *'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > *Sent: *Friday, September 1, 2017 10:44 AM > *To: *'OBC Ramblings' > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB > Do we have a league? > Is it too late to sign up? > Am I already signed up J ? > Thanks > Bob ================= To: 'Matthew Glidden' , 'OBC Ramblings' Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 18:41:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB From: Mac Wubben Yeah, the draft seemed lightly attended this year. Guess this is why. Letthe trading commence! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 12:52 PM To: 'Matthew Glidden'; 'OBC Ramblings'; 'mark zentkovich' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB Confirming that I have a team. I guess emails on the draft never went out or I missed them From: Matthew Glidden [mailto:glidden.matthew@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 12:39 PM To: Bob Donaldson ; OBC Ramblings ; mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] Confirming that (like Bob) Yahoo sent a FFL reminder today. I logged in andchecked for my team and there it was. Yahoo must've missed something when they sent the reminders. On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from mark zentkovich included below] We drafted 8-19, I see you in the list of managers. It was same folks as last year If you log on to yahoo sports you should see your team Thanks, mark Sent from Mail for Windows From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 10:44 AM To: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB Do we have a league? Is it too late to sign up? Am I already signed up :) ? ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 13:53:04 -0500 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB From: Raymond Luurs I still cant figure out if i am in the league i go to yahoosports but it show i only have a baseball team am i in league? On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Yeah, the draft seemed lightly attended this year. Guess this is why. > Let the trading commence! > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2017 12:52 PM > *To:* 'Matthew Glidden'; 'OBC Ramblings'; 'mark zentkovich' > *Subject:* RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB > Confirming that I have a team. I guess emails on the draft never went out > or I missed them > *From:* Matthew Glidden [mailto:glidden.matthew@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, September 1, 2017 12:39 PM > *To:* Bob Donaldson ; OBC Ramblings < > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>; mark zentkovich > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] > Confirming that (like Bob) Yahoo sent a FFL reminder today. I logged in > and checked for my team and there it was. Yahoo must've missed something > when they sent the reminders. > Spike > On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > *[Attachment(s) <#m_4346554683245088104_m_-4979233172999992684_TopText> > from mark zentkovich included below]* > We drafted 8-19, I see you in the list of managers. > It was same folks as last year > If you log on to yahoo sports you should see your team > Thanks, mark > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > *From: *'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > *Sent: *Friday, September 1, 2017 10:44 AM > *To: *'OBC Ramblings' > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB > Do we have a league? > Is it too late to sign up? > Am I already signed up J ? > Thanks > Bob ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 19:41:42 +0000 Subject: Seventies September! From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 14:04:43 -0700 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: John Stamper I'm in. Always doing 70's something. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 > On Sep 1, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really onlyworth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlistsfrom your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? > So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I willget it together then share the link when it is ready. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 17:10:02 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: David Luciano Why do I have six 1974 mickey lolich=E2=99s=E2=A6. Ya I=E2=99m in. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really onlyworth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlistsfrom your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? > So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I willget it together then share the link when it is ready. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 16:38:39 +0000 To: Bob Donaldson , OBC Ramblings , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB [1 Attachment] From: Matthew Glidden Confirming that (like Bob) Yahoo sent a FFL reminder today. I logged in and checked for my team and there it was. Yahoo must've missed something when they sent the reminders. On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 9:29 AM mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_-4979233172999992684_TopText> from mark zentkovich > included below] > We drafted 8-19, I see you in the list of managers. > It was same folks as last year > If you log on to yahoo sports you should see your team > Thanks, mark > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > *From: *'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > *Sent: *Friday, September 1, 2017 10:44 AM > *To: *'OBC Ramblings' > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] OBC Fantasy FB > Do we have a league? > Is it too late to sign up? > Am I already signed up J ? > Thanks > Bob ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 19:40:18 -0400 To: daveluciano@me.com, uthminsta@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Mike Glasser I'm in. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Aaron Shirley Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! Why do I have six 1974 mickey lolich=E2=99s=E2=A6. Ya I=E2=99m in. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really only worth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlists from your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimizecrossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chanceto really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I will get it together then share the link when it is ready. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 19:42:34 -0400 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Yahoo I would be in a have a couple extra seventies =A4=94. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2017, at 19:40, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'm in. > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Aaron Shirley > Cc: obc-ramblings > Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 5:10 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! > Why do I have six 1974 mickey lolich=E2=99s=E2=A6. Ya I=E2=99m in. > Thanks! > Dave Luciano > 12815 Kingsway Dr, > Chesterland, Ohio > 44026 > 216 406 5940 > daveluciano@me.com > On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really onlyworth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlistsfrom your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? > So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I willget it together then share the link when it is ready. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 21:32:59 -0400 To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Joel Freedman i would participate On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I would be in a have a couple extra seventies =A4=94. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2017, at 19:40, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I'm in. >> Mike Glasser >> Owner >> The Goddard School in Sparks, MD >> 14630 York Road >> Sparks, MD 21152 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: Aaron Shirley >> Cc: obc-ramblings >> Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 5:10 pm >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! >> Why do I have six 1974 mickey lolich=E2=99s=E2=A6. Ya I=E2=99m in. >> Thanks! >> Dave Luciano >> 12815 Kingsway Dr, >> Chesterland, Ohio >> 44026 >> 216 406 5940 >> daveluciano@me.com >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really only worth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlists from your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? >> So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I will get it together then share the link when it is ready. >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 21:49:12 -0400 To: Dan Angland Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Joel Freedman we can do any sport and non sport. no limit to what we can put in the spreadsheet. On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Dan Angland duph182@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Can we do non-sports too? > How about Football, Hockey and Basketball? > Or am I out of order? :-) > Dan Angland > From: "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 3:41 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! > Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really onlyworth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlistsfrom your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? > So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I willget it together then share the link when it is ready. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 22:12:06 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Anthony Me too Sent from my iPad > On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > i would participate > Joel >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I would be in a have a couple extra seventies =A4=94. >> Jerry Barnes >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 19:40, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> I'm in. >>> Mike Glasser >>> Owner >>> The Goddard School in Sparks, MD >>> 14630 York Road >>> Sparks, MD 21152 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> To: Aaron Shirley >>> Cc: obc-ramblings >>> Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 5:10 pm >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! >>> Why do I have six 1974 mickey lolich=E2=99s=E2=A6. Ya I=E2=99min. >>> Thanks! >>> Dave Luciano >>> 12815 Kingsway Dr, >>> Chesterland, Ohio >>> 44026 >>> 216 406 5940 >>> daveluciano@me.com >>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really only worth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlists from your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? >>> So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I will get it together then share the link when it is ready. >>> Aaron >>> Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Anthony , Joel Freedman Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 21:20:09 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: mark zentkovich I will play, but won=E2=99t be able to send anything until middle of month or so Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 9:13 PM To: Joel Freedman Cc: Yahoo; Mike Glasser; daveluciano@me.com; Aaron Shirley; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! Me too Sent from my iPad On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:32 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: i would participate On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] I would be in a have a couple extra seventies =A4=94. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2017, at 19:40, Mike Glassermiglasser@aol.com[OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I'm in. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: David Lucianodaveluciano@me.com[OBC-Ramblings] To: Aaron Shirley Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Sep 1, 2017 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! Why do I have six 1974 mickey lolich=E2=99s=E2=A6. Ya I=E2=99m in. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 1, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Aaron Shirleyuthminsta@hotmail.com[OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really only worth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlists from your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimizecrossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chanceto really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? So...just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I will get it together then share the link when it is ready. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 21:58:54 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Doug DeJong I'm in. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:49 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > we can do any sport and non sport. > no limit to what we can put in the spreadsheet. > Joel >> On Sep 1, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Dan Angland duph182@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Can we do non-sports too? >> How about Football, Hockey and Basketball? >> Or am I out of order? :-) >> Dan Angland >> From: "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" >> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 3:41 PM >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! >> Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really only worth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlists from your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? >> So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I will get it together then share the link when it is ready. >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 02:28:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:16:25 -0700 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! From: John Stamper Journey is on the turntable and cards on the desk. No polyester suits (no suits at all) but plenty of vinyl. We are staying home this long weekend andinside since it's been so hot. That means spinning some vinyl and pulling cards!!!! John Stamper > On Sep 1, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Absolutely! Probably do five tabs: Baseball, football, basketball, hockey, non-sports. I'm not with my laptop yet but I will set it up later on tonight and post the link. > Thanks all for the enthusiastic support! Everyone get your polyester suits, turntables, stacks of vintage vinyl and dupes boxes out... and let's getour seventies on! > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Dan Angland wrote: >> Can we do non-sports too? >> How about Football, Hockey and Basketball? >> Or am I out of order? :-) >> Dan Angland >> From: "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" >> Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 3:41 PM >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Seventies September! >> Hey guys. I'd like to start up SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER - but it's really only worth it if you'll play along. The idea is to share wantlists from your 1970-1979 sets and to coordinate the dupes we all send to minimize crossover. These coordinated projects are just supposed to be a fun chance to really move some cards... and I for one have WAAAAAY too many 70's dupes. Is your dupes box like mine? >> So... just gimme some hint that you would like to participate, and I will get it together then share the link when it is ready. >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 04:53:07 +0000 Subject: Re: Seventies September! From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 09:26:03 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Reverse gremlins From: Ken M OK, so I got some cards in the mail the other day. I crossed them off my list and decided to update it with names, since I had about 20-25 left to complete the set. Then I started to put the newly acquired cards into the binder. Wait a second, I already have this one... and this one... and here's Rollie Fingers in the wrong spot - actually he's in two spots, so I have THREE of him now. It was like I was looking through someone else's album almost. I can only imagine that I updated my list at some point and forgot to publish it and it didn't save the changes. I audited the set and wound up going from about 35 needed to only 8 remaining - and I only added 3 or 4 "hits" from the pile I thought I had. Wish this sort of thing would happen with my 1963 Jello set... Hey, maybe I should check the binder - you know, just in case. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2017 10:44:03 -0700 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reverse gremlins From: John Stamper So Ken, What set is it? Perhaps we could help finish it! John Stamper > On Sep 2, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > OK, so I got some cards in the mail the other day. I crossed them off my list and decided to update it with names, since I had about 20-25 left to complete the set. Then I started to put the newly acquired cards into the binder. Wait a second, I already have this one... and this one... and here's Rollie Fingers in the wrong spot - actually he's in two spots, so I have THREE of him now. It was like I was looking through someone else's album almost. I can only imagine that I updated my list at some point and forgot to publish it and it didn't save the changes. I audited the set and wound up going from about 35 needed to only 8 remaining - and I only added 3 or 4 "hits" from the pile I thought I had. Wish this sort of thing would happen withmy 1963 Jello set... Hey, maybe I should check the binder - you know, justin > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 15:18:52 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Late 50's waiver From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 15:43:18 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reverse gremlins From: Ken M 1977 OPC. Most of the remainders are stars/HOF'ers. I got a couple extra Rollie Fingers to trade now :-D Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: John Stamper Date: Sat, Sep 2, 2017 1:44 PMTo: Ken M;Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reverse gremlins So Ken, What set is it? Perhaps we could help finish it! John Stamper On Sep 2, 2017, at 6:26 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   OK, so I got some cards in the mail the other day. I crossed them off my list and decided to update it with names, since I had about 20-25 left to complete the set. Then I started to put the newly acquired cards into the binder. Wait a second, I already have this one... and this one... and here's Rollie Fingers in the wrong spot - actually he's in two spots, so I have THREE of him now. It was like I was looking through someone else's album almost. I can only imagine that I updated my list at some point and forgot to publish it and it didn't save the changes. I audited the set and wound up going from about 35 needed to only 8 remaining - and I only added 3 or 4 "hits" from the pile I thought I had. Wish this sort of thing would happen with my 1963 Jello set... Hey, maybe I should check the binder - you know, just in case. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2017 17:56:53 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: 1960's waivers From: JDahms ================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 04:12:05 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Jefferson Burdick and The Met From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- Anybody want to wander through the Met and see the Jefferson Burdick Collection on Wednesday afternoon? I'll be in town and plan on heading overthere. Let me know if you want to meet up there, or anywhere in Manhattan. Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 14:22:03 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Milestone Reached 35K From: Joel Freedman Thanks to all of OBC for helping me reach Charles Bray and the 35K vintage sport card milestone. Onto Lionel Carter and 50K! Thanks OBC! Joel Freedman ================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 13:29:58 -0500 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milestone Reached 35K From: OBC Nick P Congrats Joel! Big step! Way to go! Nick Pelletier > On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thanks to all of OBC for helping me reach Charles Bray and the 35K vintage sport card milestone. > Onto Lionel Carter and 50K! > Thanks OBC! > Joel Freedman ================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 15:02:31 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milestone Reached 35K From: Jake Brewer Congrats dood! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2017, at 2:29 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats Joel! Big step! Way to go! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com >> On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Thanks to all of OBC for helping me reach Charles Bray and the 35K vintage sport card milestone. >> Onto Lionel Carter and 50K! >> Thanks OBC! >> Joel Freedman ================= To: Joel Freedman Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 20:37:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milestone Reached 35K From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 23:20:08 +0200 (CEST) To: "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milestone Reached 35K From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 Congrats Joel!!!! T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 3, 2017 at 10:37 PM "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com[OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Very nice. So do you know the exact card which got you to 35K or do you not keep that close of an inventory? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of OBC for helping me reach Charles Bray and the 35K vintage sport card milestone. > > > > Onto Lionel Carter and 50K! > > > > Thanks OBC! > > > > Joel Freedman > > > > > ================= Date: 03 Sep 2017 23:34:05 +0000 To: Subject: Need some advice on prices From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Aaron Shirley Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 23:41:51 +0000 Subject: Re: Seventies September! From: Taylor Schock ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 19:58:08 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Milestone Reached 35K From: "Sal Domino" Well Done Joel! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 3:03 PM To: OBC Nick P Cc: Joel Freedman; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milestone Reached 35K Congrats dood! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2017, at 2:29 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Congrats Joel! Big step! Way to go! Nick Pelletier On Sep 3, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Thanks to all of OBC for helping me reach Charles Bray and the 35K vintage sport card milestone. Onto Lionel Carter and 50K! Thanks OBC! Joel Freedman ================= To: Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2017 23:00:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Milestone Reached 35K From: "George Vrechek" Way to go.and you didn't even need to count two flats I have in the mail to George Vrechek ================= Date: 04 Sep 2017 10:06:52 +0000 To: Subject: Finally, some card time!! From: jola.media@gmail.com ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 09:09:36 -0400 Subject: Misc Availables From: "Bob Donaldson" Claim Away - Please send your address as I am quite lazy today :) 1950 Bowman FB # 74 g/vg 1948 Bowman FB # 13 f 1988? Pactific LEfends Ken Harrelson and Bobby Thomson Lot of 9 playing cards, from a game called "Space Race" 1948 Leaf BB # 22 g/vg but with tape on borders 1948 Leaf Boxing #s 35 57 78 all f-p Nu-Cards FB All American #101 196? Topps FB #83 Bob Roberson - card looks like 55 Bowman ================= Date: 04 Sep 2017 16:24:07 +0000 To: Subject: 3 card waiver wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2017 13:13:18 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: 1970-'s stars and some team cards waivers From: JDahms ================= Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 13:49:23 -0400 To: obc-ramblings Subject: Reference request for Joe Miller From: Andy Huntoon Hello OBC, Joe Miller has contacted me about a possible trade and he gave me the following names as OBC references: Craig, Dingman, Fitts, Sankner, Schock, & Tysver. Could any of you offer a reference for Mr. Miller? Thanks a lot guys, Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! ================= Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 15:51:10 -0400 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reference request for Joe Miller From: Steve I made three trades with Joe Miller, all three were fair and equitable. I was very happy with the cards I received from him. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Sep 4, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hello OBC, > Joe Miller has contacted me about a possible trade and he gave me the following names as OBC references: Craig, Dingman, Fitts, Sankner, Schock, & Tysver. > Could any of you offer a reference for Mr. Miller? > Thanks a lot guys, > Andy Huntoon > OBC Rules!!! ================= To: obc-ramblings , Andy Huntoon Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 20:10:38 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reference request for Joe Miller From: Taylor Schock I've had a couple of trades with Joe, though it's been a while. Not sure exactly what it was, but he's on my 'nice' list and I'd trade again. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 1:49 PM To: obc-ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Reference request for Joe Miller Hello OBC, Joe Miller has contacted me about a possible trade and he gave me the following names as OBC references: Craig, Dingman, Fitts, Sankner, Schock, & Tysver. Could any of you offer a reference for Mr. Miller? Thanks a lot guys, Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! ================= To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 20:03:14 -0400 Subject: 1954 Bowman Checklist From: "Sal Domino" Anyone who's collecting this, I just put a checklist together with the variations. I've pasted and attached the list. The list comes from the bible. Another set that will drive me to drink! 1954 Bowman Need 224 of 224 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224 10a- Carl Erskine (2 Black Loops) 10b- Carl Erskine (No Loops) 12a- Roy McMillan (551/1290 At Bat) 12b- Roy McMillan (557/1296 At Bat) 22a- Sam Mele (213/1661 Putouts) 22b- Sam Mele (217/1665 Putouts) 25a- Wes Westrum (1.000/987 Fielding Ave) 25b- Wes Westrum (.982/.986 Fielding Ave) 26a- Billy Cox (1.000/.960 Fielding Ave) 26b- Billy Cox (.972/.960 Fielding Ave) 28a- Jim Greengrass (Birthplace Addison, NJ) 28b- Jim Greengrass (Birthplace Addison, NY) 33a- Vic Raschi- No Trade Reference 33b- Vic Raschi- Trade Reference 35a- Eddie Joost (Quiz Answer is 8) 35b- Eddie Joost (Quiz Answer is 33) 38a- Minnie Minoso (.895/.861 Field Ave) 38b- Minnie Minoso (.963/.963 Field Ave) 41a- Alvin Dark (.986/.960 Field Ave) 41b- Alvin Dark (.968/.960 Field Ave) 43a- Bob Friend (20 Shutouts in Quiz Question) 43b- Bob Friend (16 Shutouts in Quiz Question) 47a- Granny Hamner (.970/.953 Field Ave) 47b- Granny Hamner (.953/.951 Field Ave) 53a- Don Leinhardt (.969/.984 Field Ave) 53b- Don Leinhardt (.966/.983 Field Ave) 61a- Eddie Milksis (.954/.962 Field Ave) 61b- Eddie Milksis (.954/.961 Field Ave) 66a- Ted Williams 66b- Jimmy Piersall 67a- Carl Scheib (.306 Pct with 2 lines under Bio) 67b- Carl Scheib (.306 Pct with 1 lines under Bio) 80a- Johnny Logan (106 Runs) 80b- Johnny Logan (100 Runs) 81a- Jerry Coleman (1.000/.975 Field Ave) 81b- Jerry Coleman (.952/.975 Field Ave) 82a- Bill Goodman (.965/.986 Field Ave) 82b- Bill Goodman (.972/.985 Field Ave) 85a- Jim Dyke (.926/.956 Field Ave) 85b- Jim Dyke (.947/.960 Field Ave) 93a- Bill Serena (.983/.966 Field Avg.) 93b- Bill Serena (.977/.966 Field Avg.) 94a- Solly Hemus (476/1343 Assists) 94b- Solly Hemus (477/1343 Assists) 99a- Peter Suder (.985/.974 Field Ave) 99b- Peter Suder (.978/.974 Field Ave) 103a- Stephen Souchock (144/1192 Putouts) 103b- Stephen Souchock (147/1195 Putouts) 105a- Sal Maglie (Quiz answer is 8.) 105b- Sal Maglie (Quiz answer is 1904.) 124a- Gus Bell (15/27 Errors) 124b- Gus Bell (11/26 Errors) 138a- Gil Hodges (.993/.991 Field Avg.) 138b- Gil Hodges (.992/.991 Field Avg.) 139a- Preston Ward (.961/.992 Field Avg.) 139b- Preston Ward (.990/.992 Field Avg.) 140a- Saul Rogovin (7-12 Won/Lost with 2 Strikeouts) 140b- Saul Rogovin (7-12 Won/Lost with 62 Strikeouts) 140c- Saul Rogovin (8-12 Won/Lost) 145a- Billy Martin (.985/.983 Field Avg.) 145b- Billy Martin (.983/.982 Field Avg.) 153a- "Whitey" Lockman (100/331 Assists) 153b- "Whitey" Lockman (102/331 Assists) 156a- Rocky Bridges (320/467 Assists) 156b- Rocky Bridges (328/475 Assists) 163a- Dave Philly (152 Games, no traded line) 163b- Dave Philly (152 Games, traded line) 163c- Dave Philly (157 Games, traded line) 174a- Pete Castiglione (.966/.959 Field Avg.) 174b- Pete Castiglione (.970/.959 Field Avg.) 179a- Morris Martin (44 ERA) 179b- Morris Martin (4.44 ERA) 185a- Daryl Spencer RC (.941/.944 Field Avg.) 185b- Daryl Spencer RC (.933/.936 Field Avg.) 212a- Owen Friend (.964/.957 Field Avg.) 212b- Owen Friend (.967/.958 Field Avg.) 216a- Jerry Snyder (.988/.988 Field Avg.) 216b- Jerry Snyder (.968/.968 Field Avg.) 217a- Henry Thompson (.956/.951 Field Avg.) 217b- Henry Thompson (.956/.951 Field Avg.) 218a- Preacher Roe (black loop at top) 218a- Preacher Roe (no black loop at top) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 21:01:00 -0400 Subject: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Bowman Checklist [1 Attachment] From: "Sal Domino" One error I made. 217b- Henry Thompson (.958/.952 Field Avg.) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 8:03 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Bowman Checklist [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Sal Domino included below] Anyone who's collecting this, I just put a checklist together with the variations. I've pasted and attached the list. The list comes from the bible. Another set that will drive me to drink! 1954 Bowman Need 224 of 224 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224 10a- Carl Erskine (2 Black Loops) 10b- Carl Erskine (No Loops) 12a- Roy McMillan (551/1290 At Bat) 12b- Roy McMillan (557/1296 At Bat) 22a- Sam Mele (213/1661 Putouts) 22b- Sam Mele (217/1665 Putouts) 25a- Wes Westrum (1.000/987 Fielding Ave) 25b- Wes Westrum (.982/.986 Fielding Ave) 26a- Billy Cox (1.000/.960 Fielding Ave) 26b- Billy Cox (.972/.960 Fiel ding Ave) 28a- Jim Greengrass (Birthplace Addison, NJ) 28b- Jim Greengrass (Birthplace Addison, NY) 33a- Vic Raschi- No Trade Reference 33b- Vic Raschi- Trade Reference 35a- Eddie Joost (Quiz Answer is 8) 35b- Eddie Joost (Quiz Answer is 33) 38a- Minnie Minoso (.895/.861 Field Ave) 38b- Minnie Minoso (.963/.963 Field Ave) 41a- Alvin Dark (.986/.960 Field Ave) 41b- Alvin Dark (.968/.960 Field Ave) 43a- Bob Friend (20 Shutouts in Quiz Question) 43b- Bob Friend (16 Shutouts in Quiz Question) 47a- Granny Hamner (.970/.953 Field Ave) 47b- Granny Hamner (.953/.951 Field Ave) 53a- Don Leinhardt (.969/.984 Field Ave) 53b- Don Leinhardt (.966/.983 Field Ave) 61a- Eddie Milksis (.954/.962 Field Ave) 61b- Eddie Milksis (.954/.961 Field Ave) 66a- Ted Williams 66b- Jimmy Piersall 67a- Carl Scheib (.306 Pct with 2 lines under Bio) 67b- Carl Scheib (.306 Pct with 1 lines under Bio) 80a- Johnny Logan (106 Runs) 80b- Joh nny Logan (100 Runs) 81a- Jerry Coleman (1.000/.975 Field Ave) 81b- Jerry Coleman (.952/.975 Field Ave) 82a- Bill Goodman (.965/.986 Field Ave) 82b- Bill Goodman (.972/.985 Field Ave) 85a- Jim Dyke (.926/.956 Field Ave) 85b- Jim Dyke (.947/.960 Field Ave) 93a- Bill Serena (.983/.966 Field Avg.) 93b- Bill Serena (.977/.966 Field Avg.) 94a- Solly Hemus (476/1343 Assists) 94b- Solly Hemus (477/1343 Assists) 99a- Peter Suder (.985/.974 Field Ave) 99b- Peter Suder (.978/.974 Field Ave) 103a- Stephen Souchock (144/1192 Putouts) 103b- Stephen Souchock (147/1195 Putouts) 105a- Sal Maglie (Quiz answer is 8.) 105b- Sal Maglie (Quiz answer is 1904.) 124a- Gus Bell (15/27 Errors) 124b- Gus Bell (11/26 Errors) 138a- Gil Hodges (.993/.991 Field Avg.) 138b- Gil Hodges (.992/.991 Field Avg.) 139a- Preston Ward (.961/.992 Field Avg.) 139b- Preston Ward (.990/.992 Field Avg.) 140a- Saul Rogovin (7-12 Won/Lost with 2 Strikeou ts) 140b- Saul Rogovin (7-12 Won/Lost with 62 Strikeouts) 140c- Saul Rogovin (8-12 Won/Lost) 145a- Billy Martin (.985/.983 Field Avg.) 145b- Billy Martin (.983/.982 Field Avg.) 153a- "Whitey" Lockman (100/331 Assists) 153b- "Whitey" Lockman (102/331 Assists) 156a- Rocky Bridges (320/467 Assists) 156b- Rocky Bridges (328/475 Assists) 163a- Dave Philly (152 Games, no traded line) 163b- Dave Philly (152 Games, traded line) 163c- Dave Philly (157 Games, traded line) 174a- Pete Castiglione (.966/.959 Field Avg.) 174b- Pete Castiglione (.970/.959 Field Avg.) 179a- Morris Martin (44 ERA) 179b- Morris Martin (4.44 ERA) 185a- Daryl Spencer RC (.941/.944 Field Avg.) 185b- Daryl Spencer RC (.933/.936 Field Avg.) 212a- Owen Friend (.964/.957 Field Avg.) 212b- Owen Friend (.967/.958 Field Avg.) 216a- Jerry Snyder (.988/.988 Field Avg.) 216b- Jerry Snyder (.968/.968 Field Avg.) 217a- Henry Thompson ( .956/.951 Field Avg.) 217b- Henry Thompson (.956/.951 Field Avg.) 218a- Preacher Roe (black loop at top) 218a- Preacher Roe (no black loop at top) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 21:48:48 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Reference request for Joe Miller From: Robert Fitts I also just completed a trade with Joe Miller. It was a very pleasant experience and I was very happy with the cards he sent rob fitts ================= To: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 21:58:47 -0500 Subject: Set Recognition Level and Sy Berger books From: "George Vrechek" Two things: 1) The Set Collectors Recognition level page has been updated to include Joel Freedman who passed the 35,000 card marker. Remember the recognition page also includes non-sport card collectors (in a very small 2) Sal Domino has been sending the Sy Berger books to those requesting them. It will take some time yet to get them all out, and then I need to get Gloria Berger to sign COAs to reflect what has been sent. George Vrechek ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 14:08:26 +0000 Subject: need one for a fantasy football league From: Mac Wubben Drafting tonight at 730...let me know if you want to join. Adriance was afraid of the competition, but it's a friendly, no money league. Send me an email And to make t card related...64 venezuelan #223 the immortal george banks is available for claiming. ================= Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:56:17 -0400 To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: new set started - T 206s From: smartalecx@aol.com i spent part of this past national strolling around and looking at pre-war sets that i thought i might be interested in starting. i have always liked the T-206s and they seemed plentiful (although impossible to complete, especially with the entire set of back variations). so, i have pulled the trigger, and have picked up several dozen here and there. a few VG, more P, but mainly F/G. i have no dupes to trade and very few other pre-war aside from 33 goudeys available, but plenty of others including early 50s stuff available. will consider DS as well. here is the have list, and any help would be appreciated. Anderson, Arndt, Barry J, Batch, Blackburne, Burchell. Burke, Bush, Campbell, Clark (COL), Clymer, Congalton, Dessau, Dooin, Doolin, Dorner, Downey (fielding), Downs, Fiene (fielding), Ganzel, Grimshaw, Hartsel, Herzog (NY), Hofman, Hunter, Jones F (hands at hips), Knabe, Krause, Lattimore, Livingstone, Lobert, McGann, McGinnity, McGlynn, Mitchell (TOR), Moeller, Mullen, Oakes, Owen, Perring, Powell, Quillen, Rhodes, Schlafly, Schreck, Schulte (front), Scott, Seymour (batting, throwing), Sharpe, Shaw (StL), Spade, Stephens, Strang, Street (portrait), Tannehill L, Unglaub Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 17:37:00 -0400 Subject: Goldin Auctions LLC From: "Bob Donaldson" Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? They just sent me a check for $16,000 I kid you not! ================= To: 'OBC Ramblings' Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 21:58:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: richard dingman That's nothing, I was just offered over 14 million from a distant relative in From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 5:37 PM To: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? They just sent me a check for $16,000 I kid you not! ================= Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:28:32 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: "Thomas W. Billing" from Nigeria? > On Sep 5, 2017, at 5:58 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > That's nothing, I was just offered over 14 million from a distant relative in Africa. > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > onbehalf of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 5:37 PM > To: 'OBC Ramblings' > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC > Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? > They just sent me a check for $16,000 > I kid you not! > Bob ================= Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2017 15:38:46 -0700 To: Bob Donaldson , 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: wite3 ================= To: "Thomas W. Billing" Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 22:46:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: richard dingman From: Thomas W. Billing Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:28 PM To: richard dingman Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC from Nigeria? On Sep 5, 2017, at 5:58 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > That's nothing, I was just offered over 14 million from a distant relative in From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 5:37 PM To: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? They just sent me a check for $16,000 I kid you not! ================= To: "'wite3'" , Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:42:47 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: "Bob Donaldson" Quick update. Mark Macrae got me in touch with someone from Goldin. It appears there is another Bob Donaldson who consigned some sports memorabilia to them. They are going to call me in the morning, but I=E2=99m pretty sure I won=E2=99t get to cash the check! From: wite3 [mailto:wite3@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:39 PM To: Bob Donaldson ; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Not the most reputable owner in my opinion but here is the only email I seefor info@goldinauctions.com Leon lucky might have a better email, contact him through net 54 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 9/5/17 2:37 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? They just sent me a check for $16,000 I kid you not! ================= Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 18:57:26 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net We need to hear the rest of the story. -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Sep 5, 2017 5:37 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? They just sent me a check for $16,000 I kid you not! ================= Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 15:56:27 -0700 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: Rick Did you act like you won the lottery and dreamed of the card you were goingto buy with it? Sent from my iPad > On Sep 5, 2017, at 3:42 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Quick update. Mark Macrae got me in touch with someone from Goldin. It appears there is another Bob Donaldson who consigned some sports memorabilia to them. They are going to call me in the morning, but I=E2=99m pretty sure I won=E2=99t get to cash the check! > Thanks > Bob > From: wite3 [mailto:wite3@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:39 PM > To: Bob Donaldson ; 'OBC Ramblings' > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC > Not the most reputable owner in my opinion but here is the only email I see for them > info@goldinauctions.com > Leon lucky might have a better email, contact him through net 54 > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 9/5/17 2:37 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: 'OBC Ramblings' > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC > Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? > They just sent me a check for $16,000 > I kid you not! > Bob ================= Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2017 23:01:01 +0000 (UTC) To: "Donaldson, Bob" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC From: mark_macrae@comcast.net Just be prepared for a $62,000 invoice at their next auction....... all forPSA 8's and 9's...;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "wite3" , "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 3:42:47 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Quick update. Mark Macrae got me in touch with someone from Goldin. It appears there is another Bob Donaldson who consigned some sports memorabilia tothem. They are going to call me in the morning, but I=E2=99m pretty sure I won=E2=99t get to cash the check! From: wite3 [mailto:wite3@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 6:39 PM To: Bob Donaldson ; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Not the most reputable owner in my opinion but here is the only email I seefor Leon lucky might have a better email, contact him through net 54 Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: 9/5/17 2:37 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'OBC Ramblings' < OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goldin Auctions LLC Anyone have a contact for Goldin Auctions LLC? They just sent me a check for $16,000 I kid you not! ================= Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 02:41:42 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: TRIPLE SET KILL for the TRIPLERS From: chris tripler Through a combination of OBC ROAKs, COMC lowball bidding, and a couple of best offer/auction snipes over the last two weeks...I can proudly say that pops and I killed off three sets tonight * 1965 Topps Embossed, last card via EBay auction just a few minutes ago (for $13) a decent Mantle. (thanks to JIMI THAYER for spurring us on recentlyto finish this set!)* 1967 Topps Main set, last card via EBay best offer for a BVG 4.0, #581 Tom Seaver RC.* 1980 Topps/Burger King Hit, Pitch,and Run via a couple of low ball offers on COMC... don't know that we've ever knocked out three sets in one go... Thank you for everyone who contributed to a solid effort to finish off these sets, much appreciated OBC!!! ================= To: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 02:12:11 -0400 Subject: 1934-37 Diamond Matchbooks From: "Sal Domino" Anyone have a checklist of these, primarily a listing of all the Dodgers (and of course the color variations)? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 08:39:08 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gurus Wauction #11 From: Larry Tipton Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #11 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit of how many lots you request, but you can only win one lot. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot. Since I will be in California for babysitting duties, one of my grandkids will select the winner via random draw. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at6AM PST, with =E2=9CWauction Winners=E2=9D announced. The =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D catalog will be published on the OBC Facebook 1. 1950 Callahan =E2=9CHall of Fame=E2=9D baseball Paul Waner variation (bottom missing on black frame around picture). =E2=9CBig Poison=E2=9D was the NL MVP in 1927. Selected to the Hall of Fame in 1952. Well centered card beautiful gloss one heavy crease. Consigned by Peter Mead. 2. 1961 Topps baseball #406 =E2=9CMantle Blasts 565 Ft. Home Run=E2=9D. Card is off centered 100/0 left to right, but no visible paper loss. On April 17th 1953 Mantle slammed this monster shot off Senators pitcher Chuck Stobbs at old Griffith Stadium. The back of the card says =E2=9CThe clout soared out of the park and landed two blocks away.=E2=9D 3. 1933 Sports King #39 Jack Westrope (jockey) type card special. Solid good condition card with the typical Goudey Gum staining. During the running of the 1958 Hollywood Oaks at Hollywood Park in California, Westrope was severely injured when he was thrown from his horse and died in hospital a few hours later. Consigned by Peter Mead. Link to video of this tragic event: https://www.youtube.com/watch?vEEuh5Powpo0 4. 1954 Topps =E2=9CScoops=E2=9D #27 Bob Feller, =E2=9CStrikeout King=E2=9D. This lot is going to generate interest from not only baseballcard collectors, but also from the many non-sports collectors, as it=E2=99s one of the key cards in the set! Recent auction results include a PSA 9 example which sold for $3,200 but it=E2=99s unlikely this =E2=9Crodent chewed=E2=9D example would bring a similar result. 5. Bob Clemente lot of three different cards! 1963 Topps #18 Buc Blasters. 1968 Topps #3 RBI Leaders card. 1968 Topps #150 base card consigned by Jim Craig. Mixed grade lot for your pleasure. 6. Hank Aaron lot of three different cards! 1967 Topps #242 RBI Leaders card. 1968 Topps #370 All Star card consigned by Jim Craig. 1973 Topps #100 base card consigned by Jim Craig. Mixed grade lot for your pleasure. 7. 1962 Topps baseball #132 =E2=9CAngels Team=E2=9D GREEN TINT variation. The easiest green tint variation to identify, because there are two random =E2=9Cfloating heads=E2=9D on the card (weird I know). Nice G-VGexample, get your =E2=9Cgreen=E2=9D on! 8. 1970-1971 Topps basketball #75 Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar) Collector grade! Second year card! =E2=9CTall-boy=E2=9D format! I heard therecent Marc Maron interview with Kareem, what an interesting guy. =E2=9CTall Boy Fever=E2=9D CATCH IT! (you knew I was going to say that) 9. 1956 Topps baseball lot of three cards. #2 Warren Giles (NL President) consigned by Jim Craig. #8 Walter Alston (Brooklyn Dodgers). # 225 Gil McDougald (Yankees) consigned by Jim Craig. GURU SEZ: =E2=9CPerfect for the collector just starting out on this classic set=E2=9D! 10. 1959 Topps baseball lot of two cards. The tough #1 card in the set commissioner Ford Frick numerous creases, however no paper loss and consigned by Jim Craig. #464 Baseball Thrills =E2=9CMays=E2=99 Catch Makes Series History=E2=9D. A really nice card but a slight amount of paper loss on the back due to tape removal. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:49:13 -0400 Subject: I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn From: ED SCHOTT My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" have been hording 1 single card for a while now. 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? Heres what I want ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate I will reciprocate as well I can thanks in advance (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) 30 Joggins Ct Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: 06 Sep 2017 21:11:08 +0000 To: Subject: 1978 Burger King Tigers Gremlin From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 17:24:19 -0400 To: easchott@comcast.net, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and From: Mike Glasser Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" have been hording 1 single card for a while now. 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? Heres what I want ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate I will reciprocate as well I can thanks in advance (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) 30 Joggins Ct Balt MD 21220 ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 21:33:45 +0000 Subject: Any decent vintage card shop in northeast corner of NJ?? eom From: richard dingman ================= To: Mike Glasser Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 22:08:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:20:35 -0400 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn From: ShoelessWes Wes. Its making me bonkers Wes Shepard > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] > To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and shouldbe a can of corn > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" > have been hording 1 single card for a while now. > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? > Heres what I want > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > I will reciprocate as well I can > thanks in advance > (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) > EDDIE > Schott > 30 Joggins Ct > Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:38:15 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any decent vintage card shop in northeast corner of NJ?? eom From: Steve I have been going to the Garfield, NJ baseball card show at the Garfield Boys Club. Usually there are 60-70 tables and admission is $1.00, generally there are a dozen vintage dealers, some reasonable & some not. The shows arethe first, third & fifth Sunday every month from 9am to 3 pm. Two other shows that are good are in Colt's Neck, NJ but they are smaller. The card shops in NJ are mostly new cards and have little vintage if any. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:33 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: ================= Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 21:16:14 -0400 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should From: Robert Fitts I have a friend to single handedly moved the 1965 Topps Masanori Murakami card from a common to a $40 card in two years! It is now readily available for $2-4 despite its higher book vale because he stopped buying it nearly five years ago Rob fitts > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Wantlist] > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] > > To: obc-wantlist >; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and shouldbe a can of corn > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" > have been hording 1 single card for a while now. > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? > Heres what I want > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > I will reciprocate as well I can > thanks in advance > (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) > EDDIE > Schott > 30 Joggins Ct > Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: 07 Sep 2017 02:47:10 +0000 To: Subject: Drum Roll...newbie in the Hall!! From: grains@shaw.ca ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 07:33:24 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I have a completely different take on this issue. I apologize in advance for the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined OBC, I did send stacks of the same card that a couple members collected. Not that it isrelevant to this discussion, but at least 1 is now inactive. I cleaned out my dupes box for the card(s) in question. These were mainly HOMer cards.Unfortunately, now about 20 active guys in OBC are working on a set I sent 1 member over 25 copies of 1 card. This card remains on most of the 20 guys list. Hence, I do not any longer send ANY of the cards on the list of "obsession" cards, in order to have those cards available for current and future OBCers who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In termsof Brian's as many 1971 Topps FB set, not just the Kiick card, unless I owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAA win and have nothing else, I do not send anyfrom the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects for the samereason, and usually even on dupes sets. I did help out Kent's 1975 project. As a group, we did not even complete the 9 sets, for one of the most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys are working on 9 count 1978Topps BB projects. While I think there are plenty of 1978s in the group, obviously there are only so many 1975s available for newbies who want to build a single set. Yes you will find lines on my list stating I will accept all I can get of certain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot figure outhow to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB Sticker back sets(think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are truly dupes, and notvariations I need, get recycled back to the group. I do have a few near dupes listed, and they usually state after them they are available for swapping. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: ShoelessWes ; Mike Glasser Cc: obc-ramblings ; easchott ; obc-wantlist Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 Topps FB Jim Kiick #186. I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I already have :-) I'm perfectly insane. OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Wantlist] To: Mike Glasser Cc: easchott@comcast.net, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn Wes. Its making me bonkers Wes Shepard On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" have been hording 1 single card for a while now. 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? Heres what I want ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate I will reciprocate as well I can thanks in advance (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) 30 Joggins Ct Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 09:02:31 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn From: ShoelessWes If ANY member EVER gets their 1971 topps set down to ONLY the #265 northrup, i will give them ALL of my #265 northrups immediately. Wes Shepard > On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:33 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I have a completely different take on this issue. I apologize in advancefor the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined OBC, I did send stacks of the same card that a couple members collected. Not that it is relevant to this discussion, but at least 1 is now inactive. I cleaned out my dupes box for the card(s) in question. These were mainly HOMer cards. Unfortunately, now about 20 active guys in OBC are working on a set I sent 1 member over 25 copies of 1 card. This card remains on most of the 20guys list. Hence, I do not any longer send ANY of the cards on the list of "obsession" cards, in order to have those cards available for current andfuture OBCers who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In terms of Brian's as many 1971 Topps FB set, not just the Kiick card, unless I owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAA win and have nothing else, I do not send any from the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects for the same reason, and usually even on dupes sets. I did help out Kent's 1975 project. As a group, we did not even complete the 9 sets, for one of the most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys are working on 9 count 1978 Topps BB projects. While I think there are plenty of 1978s in the group, obviously there are only so many 1975s available for newbies who want to build a single set. > Yes you will find lines on my list stating I will accept all I can get ofcertain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot figure out how to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB Sticker back sets (think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are truly dupes, and not variations I need, get recycled back to the group. I do have a few neardupes listed, and they usually state after them they are available for swapping. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: ShoelessWes ; Mike Glasser > Cc: obc-ramblings ; easchott ; obc-wantlist > Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Hmm, > I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 Topps FB Jim Kiick #186. > I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I already have :-) > I'm perfectly insane. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Wantlist] > To: Mike Glasser > Cc: easchott@comcast.net, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Wes. Its making me bonkers > Wes Shepard > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] > To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and shouldbe a can of corn > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" > have been hording 1 single card for a while now. > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? > Heres what I want > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > I will reciprocate as well I can > thanks in advance > (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) > EDDIE > Schott > 30 Joggins Ct > Balt MD 21220 ================= To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 10:07:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest From: ED SCHOTT lets just forget it..please send me no more I ll find plenty on my own and as far as the 9s projects go... I ll comment on that later and Mike Im not insulted just never thought this would be an issue again WOW I also hand out my 64 Jerry Adairs to any one who shows any interest in my hobby or is a lifelong Oriole fan Now,back to work On 9/7/2017 7:33 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have a completely different take on this issue. I apologize in > advance for the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined > OBC, I did send stacks of the same card that a couple members > collected. Not that it is relevant to this discussion, but at least 1 > is now inactive. I cleaned out my dupes box for the card(s) in > question. These were mainly HOMer cards. Unfortunately, now about 20 > active guys in OBC are working on a set I sent 1 member over 25 copies > of 1 card. This card remains on most of the 20 guys list. Hence, I do > not any longer send ANY of the cards on the list of "obsession" cards, > in order to have those cards available for current and future OBCers > who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In terms of > Brian's as many 1971 Topps FB set, not just the Kiick card, unless I > owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAA win and have nothing else, I do not > send any from the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects > for the same reason, and usually even on dupes sets. I did help out > Kent's 1975 project. As a group, we did not even complete the 9 sets, > for one of the most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys > are working on 9 count 1978 Topps BB projects. While I think there > are plenty of 1978s in the group, obviously there are only so many > 1975s available for newbies who want to build a single set. > Yes you will find lines on my list stating I will accept all I can get > of certain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot > figure out how to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB > Sticker back sets (think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are > truly dupes, and not variations I need, get recycled back to the > group. I do have a few near dupes listed, and they usually state > after them they are available for swapping. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: ShoelessWes ; Mike Glasser > Cc: obc-ramblings ; easchott > ; obc-wantlist > Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my > latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Hmm, > I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 Topps FB Jim Kiick #186. > I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I > already have :-) > I'm perfectly insane. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com > [OBC-Wantlist] > *To: *Mike Glasser > *Cc: *easchott@comcast.net , > obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com , > obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with > my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Wes. Its making me bonkers > Wes Shepard > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > > wrote: > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net > [OBC-Wantlist] > > > To: obc-wantlist >; > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest > obsession...and should be a can of corn > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red > Machine Guns" > have been hording 1 single card for a while now. > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys > gots now? > Heres what I want > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > I will reciprocate as well I can > thanks in advance > (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 > card craze?) > EDDIE > Schott > 30 Joggins Ct > Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:05:44 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: Rick With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. View item: large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= To: "'Rick'" , Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 09:00:46 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: "Grant Rainsley" Someone please explain this to me- yet another seller of OPC cards in the U.S. who does not ship to Canada. (There are MANY!) I have seen this time and time again, and it makes no sense to me. Where would you generally expectyour biggest market for Canadian cards to be?? Maybe I=E2=99m just thick, but I don=E2=99t think we are all that scary up here=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6 In a fog, Grant From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: September 7, 2017 8:06 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. View item: large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT Sent from my iPad This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" , Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:09:23 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my From: mark zentkovich Well said brian=E2=A6especially this line: Everyone collects differently Some folks have similarly different opinions regarding second sets. Some hesitate to send cards to folks doing a second set, and that is ok, toeach his own. I have been doing some second sets in 70s last couple of years for these reasons: Having fun (the main goal of collecting anyway) Bringing back memories of watching those players on tv Cheaper and Easier to do than collecting 50s Fun to take two complete sets and upgrade between the two, making one =E2bad one=E2=99 and one =E2good one=E2=99. I do not mind contributing to anyone=E2=99s single card hoard, or team hoard, x9 projects, etc=E2=A6as usually that makes this person=E2=99s list a little easier to hit. Mark Zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 9:48 AM To: ED SCHOTT; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latestobsession...and should be a can of corn I have a different take too. All opinions are valid, however. I somehow have accumulated plenty of these 71 FB cards and a ton from OBC so I guess most feel otherwise about sending them. If this is what I collect, it's what I collect...seems pretty simple and itwould seem easier to send commons from 1971 FB than to send 1967 Topps high Some collectors go inactive due to real life situations. This also seems easy to comprehend. No one should send cards out and regret it later. If you feel like that might happen, you should probably keep them. OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: September 7, 2017 at 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn lets just forget it..please send me no more I ll find plenty on my own and as far as the 9s projects go... I ll comment on that later and Mike Im not insulted just never thought this would be an issue again WOW I also hand out my 64 Jerry Adairs to any one who shows any interest in my hobby or is a lifelong Oriole fan Now,back to work On 9/7/2017 7:33 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I have a completely different take on this issue. I apologize in advance for the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined OBC, I did send stacks of the same card that a couple members collected.Not that it is relevant to this discussion, but at least 1 is now inactive. I cleaned out my dupes box for the card(s) in question. Thesewere mainly HOMer cards. Unfortunately, now about 20 active guys in OBC are working on a set I sent 1 member over 25 copies of 1 card. This card remains on most of the 20 guys list. Hence, I do not any longer send ANY of the cards on the list of "obsession" cards, in order to havethose cards available for current and future OBCers who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In terms of Brian's as many 1971 ToppsFB set, not just the Kiick card, unless I owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAAwin and have nothing else, I do not send any from the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects for the same reason, and usually evenon dupes sets. I did help out Kent's 1975 project. As a group,we did not even complete the 9 sets, for one of the most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys are working on 9 count 1978 Topps BB projects. While I think there are plenty of 1978s in the group, obviously there are only so many 1975s available for newbies who want to build asingle Yes you will find lines on my list stating I will accept all I can get of certain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot figure out how to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB Sticker backsets (think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are truly dupes, and not variations I need, get recycled back to the group. I do have a few near dupes listed, and they usually state after them they are available for swapping. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: ShoelessWes ; Mike Glasser Cc: obc-ramblings ; easchott ; obc-wantlist Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 Topps FB Jim Kiick #186. I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I already have :-) I'm perfectly insane. OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Wantlist] To: Mike Glasser Cc: easchott@comcast.net, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn Wes. Its making me bonkers Wes Shepard On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" have been hording 1 single card for a while now. 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? Heres what I want ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate I will reciprocate as well I can thanks in advance (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) 30 Joggins Ct Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 12:11:45 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest From: Joel Freedman agreed, we all have different takes. I have 2K 1978 Topps sitting in my closet since, well 1978 and am glad to see these 9 card projects, thus they will have a home. Very few of us have these on our want lists and I need closet space for 2K more vintage cards. Not all of the newbies need them. If i want to trade 78's n the future, i will find them at a flea market, card show or ebay, until then lets move the card board around! My sending that card board today (not in the future) for a moment you have put a smile on an OBCer! On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:48 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Wow. > I have a different take too. All opinions are valid, however. > I somehow have accumulated plenty of these 71 FB cards and a ton from OBC > so I guess most feel otherwise about sending them. > If this is what I collect, it's what I collect...seems pretty simple and > it would seem easier to send commons from 1971 FB than to send 1967 Topps > high numbers. > Everyone collects differently. > Some collectors go inactive due to real life situations. > This also seems easy to comprehend. > No one should send cards out and regret it later. If you feel like that > might happen, you should probably keep them. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *September 7, 2017 at 7:13 AM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my > latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > WOW > lets just forget it..please send me no more > I ll find plenty on my own > and as far as the 9s projects go... I ll comment on that later > and Mike Im not insulted > just never thought this would be an issue > again WOW > I also hand out my 64 Jerry Adairs to any one who shows any interest in > my hobby or is a lifelong Oriole fan > Now,back to work > On 9/7/2017 7:33 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have a completely different take on this issue. I apologize in advance > for the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined OBC, I did > send stacks of the same card that a couple members collected. Not that it > is relevant to this discussion, but at least 1 is now inactive. I cleaned > out my dupes box for the card(s) in question. These were mainly HOMer > cards. Unfortunately, now about 20 active guys in OBC are working on a set > I sent 1 member over 25 copies of 1 card. This card remains on most of the > 20 guys list. Hence, I do not any longer send ANY of the cards on the list > of "obsession" cards, in order to have those cards available for current > and future OBCers who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In > terms of Brian's as many 1971 Topps FB set, not just the Kiick card, unless > I owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAA win and have nothing else, I do not send > any from the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects for the > same reason, and usually even on dupes sets. I did help out Kent's 1975 > project. As a group, we did not even complete the 9 sets, for one of the > most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys are working on 9 > count 1978 Topps BB projects. While I think there are plenty of 1978s in > the group, obviously there are only so many 1975s available for newbies who > want to build a single set. > Yes you will find lines on my list stating I will accept all I can get of > certain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot figure > out how to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB Sticker back > sets (think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are truly dupes, > and not variations I need, get recycled back to the group. I do have a few > near dupes listed, and they usually state after them they are available for > swapping. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] yahoogroups.com> > To: ShoelessWes ; Mike Glasser > > Cc: obc-ramblings > ; easchott > ; obc-wantlist > > Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest > obsession...and should be a can of corn > Hmm, > I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 Topps FB Jim Kiick #186. > I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I > already have :-) > I'm perfectly insane. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Wantlist] > *To: *Mike Glasser > *Cc: *easchott@comcast.net, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc- > ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my > latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Wes. Its making me bonkers > Wes Shepard > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] yahoogroups.com> > To: obc-wantlist ; > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should > be a can of corn > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" > have been hording 1 single card for a while now. > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? > Heres what I want > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > I will reciprocate as well I can > thanks in advance > (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) > EDDIE > Schott > 30 Joggins Ct > > Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: 07 Sep 2017 17:45:09 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 12:48:01 -0500 To: mikerw7@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn From: OBC Nick P Wow, just wow, to some of the responses. It seems like it's being said there is a right and a wrong way to collect. Pretty sure this is collecting and isn't life. Right or wrong. Grumpy-O's for breakfast? It's mildly amusing (to me) that this is making its way through OBC. That'sthe primary reason I'm inactive....somebody's definition of such and its impact on the group, forcing it on everybody. I wonder how I could even have enough time to consider worrying about how many 1971 topps #265 Jim Northrups or #186 Jim Kiick's somebody wants. If you're so motivated to try to complete nine sets of 1965 or 1978 more power to you. I won't do it....it doesn't interest me. Who sets the line.....one set is ok, two is....what? Three? Four? Nine is bad so the acceptable number is somewhere in between? If someone is so inclined to not send a card to somebody because of that.....keep the damn card. It's probably doing more good in a dupes box than ina collection where someone enjoys having the card. Nick Pelletier > On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:45 PM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Mike and Donnie and everyone else, I appreciate your thoughts on this. I've pondered it a lot. > It really used to bother me that folks were collecting 2 or 9 sets of a year for which I was struggling to reach the halfway mark (when my list flips from "have list" to "want list). > Yet now I've take on the 1978 6x "zen quest," inspired by fellow 78-Questers (Jimi, JSG, TJ, and some guy named Aaron with all the big ideas). > Here's what changed for me: > 1)Guys can collect whatever they want. Lots of guys have lots of cards Iwould like, and may even have dupes of those cards. Those are their cards. It makes no difference to me, in terms of my collection, if they decide to pursue every pre-war set ever printed, a pristine 1952 Topps set, or 9x1980 Topps. Our members having more than one set of something I have yet tocomplete is no different than our members having a dupe of a card that I still need--it's their card, not mine. If they want to share it with me, awesome, I celebrate (loudly), but I'm not entitled to their card. "Everyonecollects differently." Everyone should collect what they enjoy. It's really up to them what they collect. > 2)I've been the recipient of a magnitude of generosity beyond what I could have dreamed before I joined OBC. I literally had a few handfuls of vintage cards older than 75's when I joined. Now I've got a complete 54 Bowmanset (except for that %&*^%$*! 66 Williams). Nick P. handed me a 48 Bowman Yogi Berra at the National just because. > 3)Am I more or less likely to get a card I need because someone else wants nine of that card? Probably less likely, but I've got a lot of cards I still need and guys are sending them to me all the time. > I don't yet have close to half the 65 set, but I've sent Ed Schott several 65's for his quest that I still don't have in my collection. Wait, how does that make sense? Why would I work on his NINE sets before I work on myone? > Because I don't think this is a zero sum game we're playing. There's a lot of cards out there and we all keep getting more. I truly enjoy being able to hit guys with cards they want (some say I obsess). If I pull one outof my collection or even buy it for them, I'm not concerned that I'll comeout behind. I'd rather someone else experience that joy of the hit they're hoping for than worry about whether it's diminishing my collection. > 4)It's true, I cringe sometimes when I see that someone got a great hit to their second (or third) set that I would love to have for my first. ThenI remind myself of #'s 1 and 2 above. > 5)I decided to do the 78-Quest a bit spontaneously but still calculating that there are many 78's to go around and I almost never see anyone in our group needing any. When a new guy joins and doesn't have the set, he immediately gets bombarded. In fact, I decided when I started it that if someone joins who has no 78's and wants them, I could hit him with a starter set,preferably in person. That would be really fun. > 6)Mike Rich's point about giving one guy who is no longer a member 20 of a card that lots of our current members now need is a very good one. I think that speaks to how we decide to distribute our dupes (or not dupes). Mike, you've got me curious what card that is! > Ultimately, we are a group that shares very generously with one another--I think of us as a community, and that word has profound meaning for me--but not a group that holds our belongings in common. We haven't committed tomaking certain that everyone has one of each card before anyone has two. I hope to help you get the cards you're after within my limited resources and I really trust that when I do my small part, everyone pitches in together and we all make progress. Frequently I can't hit some of the guys who hit me, even after hours of laboring (but not obsessing) over their wantlists; I then just try to pay it forward. I believe that's the spirit of OBC. > Lynn Miller--whom I really miss having involved and one of our most generous members--used to talk about "what we can accomplish together." That really stuck for me. > Peace and joy, Guys, and thanks for all the great cards, > Mike R-W > ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > agreed, we all have different takes. > I have 2K 1978 Topps sitting in my closet since, well 1978 and am glad tosee these 9 card projects, thus they will have a home. Very few of us have these on our want lists and I need closet space for 2K more vintage cards. Not all of the newbies need them. > If i want to trade 78's n the future, i will find them at a flea market, card show or ebay, until then lets move the card board around! My sending that card board today (not in the future) for a moment you have put a smileon an OBCer! > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:48 AM, familytoad@... [OBC-Ramblings] > Wow. > I have a different take too. All opinions are valid, however. > I somehow have accumulated plenty of these 71 FB cards and a ton from OBCso I guess most feel otherwise about sending them. > If this is what I collect, it's what I collect...seems pretty simple and it would seem easier to send commons from 1971 FB than to send 1967 Topps high > Everyone collects differently. > Some collectors go inactive due to real life situations. > This also seems easy to comprehend. > No one should send cards out and regret it later. If you feel like that might happen, you should probably keep them. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@... [OBC-Ramblings] > To: mikesportsfan@..., OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: September 7, 2017 at 7:13 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > WOW > lets just forget it..please send me no more > I ll find plenty on my own > and as far as the 9s projects go... I ll comment on that later > and Mike Im not insulted > just never thought this would be an issue > again WOW > I also hand out my 64 Jerry Adairs to any one who shows any interest in > my hobby or is a lifelong Oriole fan > Now,back to work > On 9/7/2017 7:33 AM, mikesportsfan@... [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have a completely different take on this issue. I apologize in advancefor the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined OBC, I did send stacks of the same card that a couple members collected. Not that it is relevant to this discussion, but at least 1 is now inactive. I cleaned out my dupes box for the card(s) in question. These were mainly HOMer cards. Unfortunately, now about 20 active guys in OBC are working on a set I sent 1 member over 25 copies of 1 card. This card remains on most of the 20guys list. Hence, I do not any longer send ANY of the cards on the list of "obsession" cards, in order to have those cards available for current andfuture OBCers who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In terms of Brian's as many 1971 Topps FB set, not just the Kiick card, unless I owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAA win and have nothing else, I do not send any from the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects for the same reason, and usually even on dupes sets. I did help out Kent's 1975 project. As a group, we did not even complete the 9 sets, for one of the most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys are working on 9 count 1978 Topps BB projects. While I think there are plenty of 1978s in the group, obviously there are only so many 1975s available for newbies who want to build a single set. > Yes you will find lines on my list stating I will accept all I can get ofcertain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot figure out how to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB Sticker back sets (think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are truly dupes, and not variations I need, get recycled back to the group. I do have a few neardupes listed, and they usually state after them they are available for swapping. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: familytoad@... [OBC-Ramblings] > To: ShoelessWes ; Mike Glasser > Cc: obc-ramblings ; easchott ; obc-wantlist > Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Hmm, > I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 Topps FB Jim Kiick #186. > I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I already have :-) > I'm perfectly insane. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@... [OBC-Wantlist] > To: Mike Glasser > Cc: easchott@..., obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > Wes. Its making me bonkers > Wes Shepard > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@... [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@... [OBC-Wantlist] > To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and shouldbe a can of corn > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" > have been hording 1 single card for a while now. > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? > Heres what I want > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > I will reciprocate as well I can > thanks in advance > (also, are there any other OBCers out there that have that 1 card craze?) > EDDIE > Schott > 30 Joggins Ct > Balt MD 21220 ================= Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 13:50:55 -0400 To: Joel Freedman , familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest From: JDahms ================= Date: 07 Sep 2017 17:54:20 +0000 To: Subject: Yahoo Groups search From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: OBC-WantList , Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 12:56:37 -0500 Subject: anyone need 74 topps baseball upgrades? From: mark zentkovich I just completed upgrading between my first and second sets. If anyone needs upgrades to vg or vgex please let me know I would want good or better only in return (creases ok, no paper loss, minor ink ok) I do not have much in ex and above. I do have an upgrade list on my want list of poor cards I want to upgrade to good if anyone wants to look. Thanks, mark zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: 07 Sep 2017 20:41:01 +0000 To: Subject: To those in the OBC Facebook group From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:08:42 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: Anthony I am the high bid at$60 which will go up Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone > On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. > View item: > large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 > End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:11:38 -0400 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] To those in the OBC Facebook group From: Mike Glasser How can you leave us hanging and not telling us the story of how someone finds a $10 Mantle? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 4:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] To those in the OBC Facebook group Those of you who are on Facebook are (hopefully) aware there there is an OBC Facegroup page. Aaron started it (I guess that makes him the official instigator, right?), and he asked me to be a co-admin (co-conspirator?). Unlike OBC, we are not making this Facebook page exclusive to OBC members. There are a few guys in the Facebook group already who aren't in OBC, and about 45 more as of today who have asked to join. Rather than just let anyone in, I made up a small list of questions and asked applicants to answer; if no answer, I haven't let them in. If anyone misbehaves, they'll get bounced, of course, but so far everyone has been courteous, with a few adding some links to informative articles - and some, like former OBCer Terry Woods,making us drool with his 1952 Mantle that he got for - wait for it - 10 bucks. Yes, for 10 American dollars Terry got an authentic '52 Topps Mantle.You may now wipe the slobber from your keyboards/phones. Anyway, the reason for this heads-up is to remind you in the Facebook groupto refrain from showing envelopes with our addresses on them. We still want to keep our addresses private, so if you want to show pics of outgoings, just do it before adding the address. ================= To: "directorth@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:05:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] To those in the OBC Facebook group From: Aaron Shirley Y'see, that's the thing; you just have to join the Facebook group and checkit out for yourself! https://www.facebook.com/groups/oldbaseballcards/ From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 4:11 PM To: directorth@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] To those in the OBC Facebook group How can you leave us hanging and not telling us the story of how someone finds a $10 Mantle? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 4:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] To those in the OBC Facebook group Those of you who are on Facebook are (hopefully) aware there there is an OBC Facegroup page. Aaron started it (I guess that makes him the official instigator, right?), and he asked me to be a co-admin (co-conspirator?). Unlike OBC, we are not making this Facebook page exclusive to OBC members. There are a few guys in the Facebook group already who aren't in OBC, and about 45 more as of today who have asked to join. Rather than just let anyone in, I made up a small list of questions and asked applicants to answer; if no answer, I haven't let them in. If anyone misbehaves, they'll get bounced, of course, but so far everyone has been courteous, with a few adding some links to informative articles - and some, like former OBCer Terry Woods,making us drool with his 1952 Mantle that he got for - wait for it - 10 bucks. Yes, for 10 American dollars Terry got an authentic '52 Topps Mantle. You may now wipe the slobber from your keyboards/phones. Anyway, the reason for this heads-up is to remind you in the Facebook groupto refrain from showing envelopes with our addresses on them. We still want to keep our addresses private, so if you want to show pics of outgoings, just do it before adding the address. ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 00:32:58 +0200 (CEST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 Hey gang, I'm not sure who has said this in the thread, but this is collecting, it's our hobby, and it's fun. I know roughly 6 or 7 years ago, I decided to collect OPC because I had so much fun collecting those late 60's and 70's sets.I did contemplate going after some second sets, but ultimately decided notto go for second sets and try my hand at the OPC's, I didnt realize the OPC's would be so tough. A few years later, I did start a second 78 set. 78 was the first year I collected. Holds a special place for me. I had a lot offun putting that second set together, and it led to my x9 project. When I read that someone is going after a second set, it doesn't throw me off at all. I think it's great. It usually is a set or sets that have some meaning for that member. And I am sure putting a second set together is a lot of fun. And that is what this all about. Personally, I think if you want 2, 9 or 6 sets of something.......GO FOR IT! Enjoy the ride! > On September 7, 2017 at 7:45 PM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Mike and Donnie and everyone else, I appreciate your thoughts on this. I've pondered it a lot. > It really used to bother me that folks were collecting 2 or 9 sets of a year for which I was struggling to reach the halfway mark (when my listflips from "have list" to "want list). > Yet now I've take on the 1978 6x "zen quest," inspired by fellow 78-Questers (Jimi, JSG, TJ, and some guy named Aaron with all the big ideas). > Here's what changed for me: > 1)Guys can collect whatever they want. Lots of guys have lots of cards I would like, and may even have dupes of those cards. Those are their cards. It makes no difference to me, in terms of my collection, if they decide to pursue every pre-war set ever printed, a pristine 1952 Topps set, or9x1980 Topps. Our members having more than one set of something I have yet to complete is no different than our members having a dupe of a card thatI still need--it's their card, not mine. If they want to share it with me, awesome, I celebrate (loudly), but I'm not entitled to their card. "Everyone collects differently." Everyone should collect what they enjoy. It'sreally up to them what they collect. > 2)I've been the recipient of a magnitude of generosity beyond what I could have dreamed before I joined OBC. I literally had a few handfuls of vintage cards older than 75's when I joined. Now I've got a complete 54 Bowman set (except for that %&*^%$*! 66 Williams). Nick P. handed me a 48 Bowman Yogi Berra at the National just because. > 3)Am I more or less likely to get a card I need because someone else wants nine of that card? Probably less likely, but I've got a lot of cardsI still need and guys are sending them to me all the time. > I don't yet have close to half the 65 set, but I've sent Ed Schott several 65's for his quest that I still don't have in my collection. Wait, how does that make sense? Why would I work on his NINE sets before I work on my one? > Because I don't think this is a zero sum game we're playing. There'sa lot of cards out there and we all keep getting more. I truly enjoy being able to hit guys with cards they want (some say I obsess). If I pull oneout of my collection or even buy it for them, I'm not concerned that I'll come out behind. I'd rather someone else experience that joy of the hit they're hoping for than worry about whether it's diminishing my collection. > 4)It's true, I cringe sometimes when I see that someone got a great hit to their second (or third) set that I would love to have for my first. Then I remind myself of #'s 1 and 2 above. > 5)I decided to do the 78-Quest a bit spontaneously but still calculating that there are many 78's to go around and I almost never see anyone in our group needing any. When a new guy joins and doesn't have the set, he immediately gets bombarded. In fact, I decided when I started it that if someone joins who has no 78's and wants them, I could hit him with a starter set, preferably in person. That would be really fun. > 6)Mike Rich's point about giving one guy who is no longer a member 20of a card that lots of our current members now need is a very good one. Ithink that speaks to how we decide to distribute our dupes (or not dupes).Mike, you've got me curious what card that is! > Ultimately, we are a group that shares very generously with one another--I think of us as a community, and that word has profound meaning for me--but not a group that holds our belongings in common. We haven't committed to making certain that everyone has one of each card before anyone has two. I hope to help you get the cards you're after within my limited resources and I really trust that when I do my small part, everyone pitches in together and we all make progress. Frequently I can't hit some of the guys who hit me, even after hours of laboring (but not obsessing) over their wantlists; I then just try to pay it forward. I believe that's the spirit of OBC. > Lynn Miller--whom I really miss having involved and one of our most generous members--used to talk about "what we can accomplish together." That really stuck for me. > Peace and joy, Guys, and thanks for all the great cards, > Mike R-W > ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > agreed, we all have different takes. > I have 2K 1978 Topps sitting in my closet since, well 1978 and am glad to see these 9 card projects, thus they will have a home. Very few of ushave these on our want lists and I need closet space for 2K more vintage cards. Not all of the newbies need them. > If i want to trade 78's n the future, i will find them at a flea market, card show or ebay, until then lets move the card board around! My sending that card board today (not in the future) for a moment you have put a smile on an OBCer! > > > On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:48 AM, familytoad@... mailto:familytoad@... [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > I have a different take too. All opinions are valid, however. > > > > > > I somehow have accumulated plenty of these 71 FB cards and a ton from OBC so I guess most feel otherwise about sending them. > > > If this is what I collect, it's what I collect...seems pretty simple and it would seem easier to send commons from 1971 FB than to send 1967 Topps high numbers. > > > > > > Everyone collects differently. > > > Some collectors go inactive due to real life situations. > > > This also seems easy to comprehend. > > > No one should send cards out and regret it later. If you feel like that might happen, you should probably keep them. > > > > > > OBC Forever, > > > Brian > > > > > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > > > > > > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@... mailto:easchott@... [OBC-Ramblings] > > > > To: mikesportsfan@... mailto:mikesportsfan@... , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: September 7, 2017 at 7:13 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?space?-- > > > > WOW > > > > lets just forget it..please send me no more > > > > I ll find plenty on my own > > > > and as far as the 9s projects go... I ll comment on that > > > > and Mike Im not insulted > > > > just never thought this would be an issue > > > > again WOW > > > > I also hand out my 64 Jerry Adairs to any one who showsany interest in > > > > my hobby or is a lifelong Oriole fan > > > > Now,back to work > > > > > > > > > > On 9/7/2017 7:33 AM, mikesportsfan@... mailto:mikesportsfan@... [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a completely different take on this issue.I apologize in advance for the guys I will insult with my views. When I first joined OBC, I did send stacks of the same card that a couple members collected. Not that it is relevant to this discussion, but at least 1 is now inactive. I cleaned out my dupes box for the card(s) in question. These were mainly HOMer cards. Unfortunately, now about 20 active guys in OBC are working on a set I sent 1 member over 25 copies of 1 card. This card remains on most of the 20 guys list. Hence, I do not any longer send ANY ofthe cards on the list of "obsession" cards, in order to have those cards available for current and future OBCers who may want to work on a set those cards come from. In terms of Brian's as many 1971 Topps FB set, not just the Kiick card, unless I owe him for a Super Bowl or NCAA win and have nothing else, I do not send any from the set to him. I do waffle on the 9 page card projects for the same reason, and usually even on dupes sets. I did help out Kent's 1975 project. As a group, we did not even complete the 9 sets, for one of the most generous guys in OBC. I believe 2 different guys are working on 9 count 1978 Topps BB projects. While I think there are plenty of 1978s in the group, obviously there are only so many 1975s available for newbies who want to build a single set. > > > > > > Yes you will find lines on my list stating I willaccept all I can get of certain items. These are usually due to variations that I cannot figure out how to list what I need (1963 Topps FB, certain Fleer BB Sticker back sets (think 1980 Famous Feats), etc.). Any I get that are truly dupes, and not variations I need, get recycled back to the group. I do have a few near dupes listed, and they usually state after them they are available for swapping. > > > > > > Mike Rich > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: familytoad@... mailto:familytoad@... [OBC-Ramblings] mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > To: ShoelessWes mailto:wwesmyster2@... ; Mike Glasser mailto:miglasser@... > > > Cc: obc-ramblings mailto:obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; easchott mailto:easchott@... ; obc-wantlist mailto:obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 12:35 am > > > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Ineed help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > > > > > > > > > Hmm, > > > I guess that means I am collecting the 1971 ToppsFB Jim Kiick #186. > > > I have about 50 but I would rather get more than to count the ones I already have :-) > > > I'm perfectly insane. > > > > > > OBC Forever, > > > Brian > > > > > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > > > > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > > > > > > > From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@... mailto:wwesmyster2@... > > > > To: Mike Glasser > > > > Cc: easchott@... mailto:easchott@... , obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com mailto:wantlist@yahoogroups.com , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: September 6, 2017 at 4:22 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wes. Its making me bonkers > > > > > > > > Wes Shepard > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@... mailto:miglasser@... [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who is collecting the 71 Northrup? > > > > > > > > > > Mike Glasser > > > > > Owner > > > > > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > > > > > 14630 York Road https://maps.google.com/?q14630+York+Road+%0D+Sparks,+MD+21152&entrygmail&sourceg > > > > > Sparks, MD 21152 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@... mailto:easchott@... [OBC-Wantlist] > > > > To: obc-wantlist ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Wed, Sep 6, 2017 4:49 pm > > > > > Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My 2 brethren in OBC namely Brian "Toad" and Wes "Big Red Machine Guns" > > > > > have been hording 1 single card for awhile > > > > > > > > > > 71 Kiick and 71 Northrup... By the way how many do yooz guys gots now? > > > > > > > > > > Heres what I want > > > > > > > > > > ALL the 1964 #22 Jerry Adairs I can accumulate > > > > > > > > > > I will reciprocate as well I can > > > > > > > > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > (also, are there any other OBCers outthere that have that 1 card craze?) > > > > > > > > > > EDDIE > > > > > > > > > > Schott > > > > > > > > > > 30 Joggins Ct https://maps.google.com/?q30+Joggins+Ct+%0D+%0D+Balt+MD+21220&entrygmail&sourceg > > > > > > > > > > Balt MD 21220 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:51:12 -0700 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: Rick It probably has everything to do with tracking. eBay basically requires it now without it all the way to your hand eBay makes sellers refund money if someone says they didn't receive the card. I have needed a .99 cent card and I have contacted sellers that have $3-4 shipping asking them to lower shipping to a pwe cause it was the only card I wanted and almost everytime they say no because of tracking. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Grant Rainsley wrote: > Someone please explain this to me- yet another seller of OPC cards in theU.S. who does not ship to Canada. (There are MANY!) I have seen this time and time again, and it makes no sense to me. Where would you generally expect your biggest market for Canadian cards to be?? > Maybe I=E2=99m just thick, but I don=E2=99t think we are all that scary up here=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6 > In a fog, Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: September 7, 2017 8:06 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set > With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. > View item: > large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 > End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT > Sent from my iPad > Virus-free. www.avg.com ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:54:18 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: password problem From: Bob Saxton How do I recover my password to update my want list on the directory? ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 15:57:56 -0700 To: Patrick Prickett Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps #99 From: Rick I have gotten two 52 gray backs on my own and both came from Canada. One from the Vancouver show and one off eBay from a Canadian seller. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:05 AM, Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi All, > I'd recommend extreme caution when dealing with Tom Killeen. He sued hisbest friend (Ted Sherman) over a card trading dispute. In my opinion, it was a complete fraud by Tom and an attempt to extort money from Ted. The judge agreed and ruled against Tom. > As for the Woodling ... very well known error. Very easy to find both versions. Don't go crazy trying to get it. There are much rarer (unknown) errors in the set, and this isn't the one to spend big on. > As for "Canadian" 1952 Topps - there is no such thing. There are 1954 Canadians. And folks initially assumed the 1952 Topps third series grey backs were Canadian because of the back color change - but this has been debunked. There is no evidence that a single grey back has ever been found in Canada (maybe 1 or 2 has turned up since I stopped following as closely - butthe broader point remains true), and they have been found widely across the U.S. The Yellow Tiger House (and other third series errors) also show that these were run off the same plates. > Cheers, > Patrick > On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:17 PM, "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Ken M included below] > Hi gang, > One of the National stories I meant to retell involves Gene Woodling's 1952 Topps card. Wes Shepard, Jerry Barnes and I spent some time at a tablerun by Tom Killeen. He seemed to specialize in the 1952 Topps set and had a number of lower grade examples that a few of us scooped up. (He also had a lot of 300+ diff. auto'd cards he was asking $85k.) We learned quite a bit about the set and got to see some salesman's panels (three cards that were hand cut, but were obviously all attached at some point). He also had similar cards with an O-Pee-Chee designation on the back. Very interesting stuff to say the least. I'm always learning new stuff about the hobby. The photos show fronts and backs of the saleman sample panels and the OPC cards cut from other panels - he didn't have any cut from the same panel like the three consecutively numbered Topps panel cards. > He also mentioned another variation regarding #99 Gene Woodling. There is a break in the stars at the bottom of the box. Tom had a pile of the variation cards and handed the three of us one each! I got home and discoveredthat the one on my set was already like that though. I guess I'm in the market for one without the break in the box now. I'll post the pics on Facebook as well. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:24:30 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps #99 From: Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:32:06 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest From: Ken M   I've started second sets for no other reason than to give you guys a target to hit. At one point a few years ago, I realized that if you took away variations and second sets, my list was eight cards long. A couple of those cards are still on it (63 Post Aspromonte, 63 Fleer Len Dawson RC to give you an idea). There's a lot more cards on my list now that will inch me closer to the 50k mark - and I'm STILL told that it's a tough list to hit. I know what it's like to try to hit someone's list and not have a shot at sending them anything. Not fun - especially after they've unearthed something on my list.  I was considering starting a 1977 x 9 project (the first year I collected) or a 9-set birth year quest (1966) if I wanted to go completely insane, but I've had second thoughts after reading this thread. I'll put it on the back burner. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 6:33 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings];mikerw7@gmail.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn Hey gang, I'm not sure who has said this in the thread, but this is collecting, it's our hobby, and it's fun. I know roughly 6 or 7 years ago, I decided to collect OPC because I had so much fun collecting those late 60's and 70's sets. I did contemplate going after some second sets, but ultimately decided not to go for second sets and try my hand at the OPC's, I didnt realize the OPC's would be so tough. A few years later, I did start a second 78 set. 78 was the first year I collected. Holds a special place for me. I had a lot of fun putting that second set together, and it led to my x9 project. When I read that someone is going after a second set, it doesn't throw me off at all. I think it's great. It usually is a set or sets that have some meaning for that member. And I am sure putting a second set together is a lot of fun. And that is what this all about. Personally, I think if you want 2, 9 or 6 sets of something... ....GO FOR IT! Enjoy the ride! On September 7, 2017 at 7:45 PM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > wrote:   Mike and Donnie and everyone else, I appreciate your thoughts on this.  I've pondered it a lot.   It really used to  bother me that folks were collecting 2 or 9 sets of a year for which I was struggling to reach the halfway mark (when my list flips from "have list" to "want list).  Yet now I've take on the 1978 6x "zen quest," inspired by fellow 78-Questers (Jimi, JSG, TJ, and some guy named Aaron with all the big ideas).   Here's what changed for me:1)Guys can collect whatever they want.  Lots of guys have lots of cards I would like, and may even have dupes of those cards.  Those are their cards.  It makes no difference to me, in terms of my collection, if they decide to pursue every pre-war set ever printed, a pristine 1952 Topps set, or 9x1980 Topps.  Our members having more than one set of something I have yet to complete is no different than our members having a dupe of a card that I still need--it's their card, not mine.  If they want to share it with me, awesome, I celebrate (loudly), but I'm not entitled to their card.  "Everyone collects differently."  Everyone should collect what they enjoy.  It's really up to them what they collect. 2)I've been the recipient of a magnitude of generosity beyond what I could have dreamed before I joined OBC.  I literally had a few handfuls of vintage cards older than 75's when I joined.  Now I've got a complete 54 Bowman set (except for that %&*^%$*! 66 Williams). Nick P. handed me a 48 Bowman Yogi Berra at the National just because.   3)Am I more or less likely to get a card I need because s omeone else wants nine of that card?  Probably less likely, but I've got a lot of cards I still need and guys are sending them to me all the time.   I don't yet have close to half the 65 set, but I've sent Ed Schott several 65's for his quest that I still don't have in my collection.  Wait, how does that make sense?  Why would I work on his NINE s ================= Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 19:59:30 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latest obsession...and should be a can of corn From: chris tripler Given that wet spaghetti noodle post, I'm sending Ken all my '66s dupes...because as we say up here in Boston-land, "F**k you, Ken...you don't get to pansy-ass on us so easily." Trip **^My apologies to all my OBC brethren that are offended by my post. *** Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I've started second sets for no other reason than to give you guys a target to hit. At one point a few years ago, I realized that if you took awayvariations and second sets, my list was eight cards long. A couple of those cards are still on it (63 Post Aspromonte, 63 Fleer Len Dawson RC to giveyou an idea). There's a lot more cards on my list now that will inch me closer to the 50k mark - and I'm STILL told that it's a tough list to hit. I know what it's like to try to hit someone's list and not have a shot at sending them anything. Not fun - especially aft er they've unearthed somethingon my list. > I was considering starting a 1977 x 9 project (the first year I collected) or a 9-set birth year quest (1966) if I wanted to go completely insane,but I've had second thoughts after reading this thread. I'll put it on theback > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Thu, Sep 7, 2017 6:33 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings];mikerw7@gmail.com; > Cc: > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] I need help with my latestobsession...and should be a can of corn > Hey gang, > I'm not sure who has said this in the thread, but this is collecting, it's our hobby, and it's fun. I know roughly 6 or 7 years ago, I decided to collect OPC because I had so much fun collecting those late 60's and 70's sets. I did contemplate going after some second sets, but ultimately decided not to go for second sets and try my hand at the OPC's, I didnt realize the OPC's would be so tough. A few years later, I did start a second 78 set. 78was the first year I collected. Holds a special place for me. I had a lot of fun putting that second set together, and it led to my x9 project. > When I read that someone is going after a second set, it doesn't throw meoff at all. I think it's great. It usually is a set or sets that have somemeaning for that member. And I am sure putting a second set together is a lot of fun. And that is what this all about. Personally, I think if you want 2, 9 or 6 sets of something... ....GO FOR IT! Enjoy the ride! > TJ > blockquote type"cite"> On September 7, 2017 at 7:45 PM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > wrote: > Mike and Donnie and everyone else, I appreciate your thoughts on this. I've pondered it a lot. > It really used to bother me that folks were collecting 2 or 9 sets of a year for which I was struggling to reach the halfway mark (when my list flips from "have list" to "want list). > Yet now I've take on the 1978 6x "zen quest," inspired by fellow 78-Questers (Jimi, JSG, TJ, and some guy named Aaron with all the big ideas). > Here's what changed for me: > 1)Guys can collect whatever they want. Lots of guys have lots of cards Iwould like, and may even have dupes of those cards. Those are their cards. It makes no difference to me, in terms of my collection, if they decide to pursue every pre-war set ever printed, a pristine 1952 Topps set, or 9x1980 Topps. Our membe rs having more than one set of something I have yet to complete is no different than our members having a dupe of a card that I still need--it's their card, not mine. If they want to share it with me, awesome, I celebrate (loudly), but I'm not entitled to their card. "Everyone collects differently." Everyone should collect what they enjoy. It's really up to them what they collect. > 2)I've been the recipient of a magnitude of generosity beyond what I could have dreamed before I joined OBC. I literally had a few handfuls of vintage cards older than 75's when I joined. Now I've got a complete 54 Bowmanset (except for that %&*^%$*! 66 Williams). Nick P. handed me a 48 Bowman Yogi Berra at the National just because. > 3)Am I more or less likely to get a card I need because s omeone else wants nine of that card? Probably less likely, but I've got a lot of cards I still need and guys are sending them to me all the time. > I don't yet have close to half the 65 set, but I've sent Ed Schott several 65's for his quest that I still don't have in my collection. W ait, how does that make sense? Why would I work on his NINE s ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:27:09 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Loan Request From: "Thomas W. Billing" Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2= ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:32:47 -0400 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: Anson Whaley What a train wreck. What is that guy's deal? On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909- > GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933? > ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649 ================= Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:32:45 -0700 To: "Thomas W. Billing" , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: wite3 ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 10:45:03 -0700 To: wite3 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: Rick He's been active on net 54 lately and says he'll knock off another 15% of his stuff on eBay if sold off eBay. That would get him down to 100% markup on most of his stuff. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 8, 2017, at 10:32 AM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just one more reason not to buy from this guy > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid= > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:43:54 -0400 To: wite3 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: chris tripler Free shipping, so there is that... Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just one more reason not to buy from this guy > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid= > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 14:18:59 -0400 To: Anson Whaley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: "Thomas W. Billing" I believe he thinks by listing items at off-the-wall prices, a too high price might look good to potential buyers. Notice how many watchers there are? That is probably all of OBC waiting to see if some poor character actually buys it. He has blocked me on eBay so I cannot buy from him, even though there had been some decent things at close to reasonable prices. Oh, well. > On Sep 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > What a train wreck. What is that guy's deal? > Anson > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid= p2060353.m1438.l2649 I have been thinking about asking him if he will also take 15% off that Wagner Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:40:27 -0400 To: wite3 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: Joel Freedman maybe we could trade something to Toppsaholic for the honus wagner stamp (oh, by the way, that is partially torn). On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Just one more reason not to buy from this guy > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909- > GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933? > ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649 > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of > each posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & > encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the > RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) > is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory > Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page > or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 14:57:51 -0400 To: wite3 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: Yahoo I will will help with a opening loan of .01. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2017, at 13:32, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just one more reason not to buy from this guy > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid= > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 14:03:29 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: Anson Whaley He literally had the card up for $1 million and change a few weeks ago. I try to steer clear of criticizing sellers and their ask prices but I honestly don't have any idea what this guy is doing other than trolling for Best I can figure, he knows the card obviously won't sell for $5M so he takes it back down to $1M and hopes someone would then theoretically see it as a bargain. Problem is his assumption that someone with $1M to spend on a card is either stupid or wouldn't do their homework before spending that much. This is certifiably bonkers. On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > He's been active on net 54 lately and says he'll knock off another 15% of > his stuff on eBay if sold off eBay. That would get him down to 100% markup > on most of his stuff. > Sent from my iPad > On Sep 8, 2017, at 10:32 AM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Just one more reason not to buy from this guy > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request > Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909- > GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933? > ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649 > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of > each posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & > encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the > RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) > is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory > Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page > or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: Rick , Anson Whaley Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 20:08:30 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: JAY TYSVER I just want to buy the stamp to put it on a letter. A really big one. I'm thinking of mailing an ocean liner. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 1:03 PM To: Rick Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request He literally had the card up for $1 million and change a few weeks ago. I try to steer clear of criticizing sellers and their ask prices but I honestly don't have any idea what this guy is doing other than trolling for attention. Best I can figure, he knows the card obviously won't sell for $5M so he takes it back down to $1M and hopes someone would then theoretically see it asa bargain. Problem is his assumption that someone with $1M to spend on a card is either stupid or wouldn't do their homework before spending that much. This is certifiably bonkers. On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > He's been active on net 54 lately and says he'll knock off another 15% of his stuff on eBay if sold off eBay. That would get him down to 100% markup on most of his stuff. Sent from my iPad On Sep 8, 2017, at 10:32 AM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Just one more reason not to buy from this guy Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2= Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouragedon Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGSserver, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:22:32 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wauction #11 closing soon! From: Larry Tipton Wauction #11 closes Sunday 6 AM PST. Still time to get your "bids" in! The most popular lot is lot #2 with eleven bids. Lot #1 has only five bids. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 17:27:32 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request From: Anson Whaley At his ask, even a Wagner T206 wouldn't do it. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > maybe we could trade something to Toppsaholic for the honus wagner stamp(oh, by the way, that is partially torn). >> On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 1:32 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Just one more reason not to buy from this guy >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Date: 9/8/17 10:27 AM (GMT-08:00) >> To: OBC Ramblings >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Loan Request >> Can any of you loan me $4.5 mil? >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid= >> ------------------------------------ >> Posted by: "Thomas W. Billing" >> ------------------------------------ >> The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. >> Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. >> OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html >> ------------------------------------ >> Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: "'Anthony'" , Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:51:19 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: "Matt Yudt" Hi Anthony =E2=93 good luck! I am interested in this too, but wont bid on it of course. The reason for this email is to see if you or anyone else is bidding on theOTHER OPC lots he has. I risk bringing it to attention and starting a bidding war between OBCers =E2=93 and hope we can prevent it. There=E2=99s also a 68, 70, 71 lots up to. I am going to go for the 68=E2=99s. I=E2=99m sure we can recirculate any dupes pretty easily=E2=A6 The lots end shortly after 10 PM tonight (EST) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 3:09 PM To: Rick Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set I am the high bid at$60 which will go up Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. View item: large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= To: Matt Yudt Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 23:50:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 0:20:22 +0000 To: 'Anthony' , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee From: I have bids on two lots--68, 69 . But feel free to overbid me--I'm figuring they will go higher than my budget currently affords me. ---- "'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Hi Anthony =E2=93 good luck! I am interested in this too, but wont bid on it of course. The reason for this email is to see if you or anyone else is bidding on theOTHER OPC lots he has. I risk bringing it to attention and starting a bidding war between OBCers =E2=93 and hope we can prevent it. There=E2=99s also a 68, 70, 71 lots up to. I am going to go for the 68=E2=99s. I=E2=99m sure we can recirculate any dupes pretty easily=E2=A6 The lots end shortly after 10 PM tonight (EST) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 3:09 PM To: Rick Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set I am the high bid at$60 which will go up Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. View item: large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= To: "rdn56@nc.rr.com" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 00:57:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee From: JAY TYSVER ================= To: Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 21:42:19 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: "Sal Domino" The 71s will make your head spin when you get to the high numbers. I can=E2=99t tell you how much I have spent on just the Mets and I still need the team card. I know Mac has been in the same boat. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 7:50 PM To: Matt Yudt Cc: Anthony; Rick; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set Anyone going after the 1971 lot? I am away from my computer so I won't be bidding, be that's one year I'd really like to work on, so if it is reasonably priced at the end I could share the lot and the cost. Let me know if someone does it!!! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:00 PM, 'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Hi Anthony =E2=93 good luck! I am interested in this too, but wont bid on it of course. The reason for this email is to see if you or anyone else is bidding on theOTHER OPC lots he has. I risk bringing it to attention and starting a bidding war between OBCers =E2=93 and hope we can prevent it. There=E2=99s also a 68, 70, 71 lots up to. I am going to go for the 68=E2=99s. I=E2=99m sure we can recirculate any dupes pretty easily=E2=A6 The lots end shortly after 10 PM tonight (EST) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 3:09 PM To: Rick Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set I am the high bid at$60 which will go up Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. View item: large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 21:44:48 -0400 Subject: Jimi bids From: "Sal Domino" Jimi had some holes in his auctions, so I am hitting on the 51B's 57T mids and a 62 Hodges. If you are close, go for it. I had no idea how my ID shows to you guys, but I'm leading this one, for example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Bowman-Eddie-Yost-Senators-41-VG-light-surface- &_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 02:27:59 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Help identifying a 56 reprint From: Donnie Barnett Is there any obvious signs on 56 reprints to tell me they are reprints. I stare at these and cant see a difference. Anything on this card making it obvious reprint? 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay | | | | | 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay 1956 topps mickey mantle # 135 listing as an aged reprint | eBay! | | Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 22:33:15 -0400 To: "mountaineer1999@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help identifying a 56 reprint From: Anson Whaley Hey Donnie - those cards aren't my specialty so I'll let someone else chime in with better info. But I'm not crazy about the listing. He calls it 'aged', which to some could mean an aged reprint. He also has sold numerous other valuable cards but listed that they were aged reprints in his description. He doesn't say that in this one, but also did not select the option to call it an original. He may have simply omitted the reprint part from his description. I would send him an email first and check to see if this was meant to be listed as a reprint. Cap Anson On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Donnie Barnett Mountaineer1999@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Is there any obvious signs on 56 reprints to tell me they are reprints. I > stare at these and cant see a difference. Anything on this card making it > obvious reprint? > Donnie > 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay > > 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay > 1956 topps mickey mantle # 135 listing as an aged reprint | eBay! > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > ================= Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:01:26 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help identifying a 56 reprint From: Ken M Donnie,  It's hard to tell without holding the card, but there's a couple potential red flags. The card is a white back - it's a lot easier to find #'s 101-180 printed on the gray stock. The big one for me is the wear - note the corner wear, yet the edges are perfect. There aren't any visible creases either. Sixty+ years of wear and tear JUST on the corners, while the edges aren't even feathered or nicked? He does list it as an aged reprint in the description. I'll take his word on that. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Donnie Barnett Mountaineer1999@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 10:28 PMTo: OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Help identifying a 56 reprint Is there any obvious signs on 56 reprints to tell me they are reprints. I stare at these and cant see a difference. Anything on this card making it obvious reprint? 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay 1956 topps mickey mantle # 135 listing as an aged reprint | eBa Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Posted by: Donnie Barnett > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. ================= To: Ken M Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 03:12:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help identifying a 56 reprint From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 00:58:28 -0400 To: "mountaineer1999@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help identifying a 56 reprint From: Anson Whaley Hey Donnie - I'm always hesitant when spending big money on ungraded cards in hand. I couldn't tell you what that card would go for but anything above around $300.00 or so ungraded and I get a little nervous if I can't see the card in hand or if I don't know the seller. If I know the seller, I'm fine with going much higher but with unknowns, I try to play it safe. I wouldn't say graded is your only option and graders make mistakes. But if you wanted some peace of mind, I would definitely seek a graded option for more expensive cards. If you're buying a low-graded one, you won't pay much more than you would for a raw one that's legit. The cost is minimal and the peace of mind is worth it, in my estimation. Even if you're confident of its authenticity, having a graded one will help you if you decide to sell it down the line. Sorry, I couldn't be more help regarding telltale signs on those types of cards. But I wanted to answer the graded part of your question and give my On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Donnie Barnett Mountaineer1999@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thanks anson. Yeah, I am pretty sure this one is a reprint but I can't see > how I could tell by looking at it. There are so many on ebay as reprint but > i could not identify if the seller did not identify it. > My guess is some reprints are not being disclosed so is my only option > graded? > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Hey Donnie - those cards aren't my specialty so I'll let someone else > chime in with better info. But I'm not crazy about the listing. He calls it > 'aged', which to some could mean an aged reprint. He also has sold numerous > other valuable cards but listed that they were aged reprints in his > description. He doesn't say that in this one, but also did not select the > option to call it an original. He may have simply omitted the reprint part > from his description. > I would send him an email first and check to see if this was meant to be > listed as a reprint. > Cap Anson > On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Donnie Barnett Mountaineer1999@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Is there any obvious signs on 56 reprints to tell me they are reprints. I > stare at these and cant see a difference. Anything on this card making it > obvious reprint? > Donnie > 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay > > 1956 topps Mickey mantle number 135 | eBay > 1956 topps mickey mantle # 135 listing as an aged reprint | eBay! > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > ================= To: "mountaineer1999@yahoo.com" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:10:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help identifying a 56 reprint From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 10:32:30 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Need a second set of eyes on these OBC-grade card prices From: Wayne Delia Can one or two (or more) of you guys take a look at this eBay link for John Morrison (eBay ID oldbbcards) and tell me what you think of his asking prices? This should take you to his Buy It Now listings, recent-most appear https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=12603&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=oldbbcards&_dmd=1&LH_BIN=1&_sop=10 I got this note from him yesterday: "wayne if you get a chance check out the cards i listed in buy it now today. they are off grade big stars. they are from a deal i picked up. there are about 400 or so 56-62 abc condition cards. send me your address i will ship them to you. thanks john usmc 1964-68 semper fi god bless america" Sal Domino, Bob Reed, and I were doing the bargain-box dumpster diving thing at George DiBenedetto's table at the White Plains East Coast National and we talked to John there for quite a while. I get it that he (John) likes our group even though he calls us "ABC" instead of "OBC", but in my opinion, some/most/all? of his prices seem way out of line. Not 1909 Honus Wagner Stamp out-of-line, but I'm getting the idea that he thinks we're actively looking for crap cards and is somehow jacking up the price on them for some reason. Yeah, they're big stars, but no bargain on the price. I'd add up his cost of any of the cards I might need, then take the exact same amount of money over to Kurt Tourdot, Mike McCann, or Dave Estright and get much better condition for much less cost. John's even listed the ultra-rare 1989 Fleer John Smoltz HOF Rookie Card (disclaimer: it is not actually ultra-rare at all) for $6.60, plus $3 shipping. Other Buy-It-Now prices include a scuffed 1981 Topps Nolan Ryan for the same price of $6.60 ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-TOPPS-240-NOLAN-RYAN-ASTROS-/401382128238?epid6616003&hash=item5d743d3a6e:g:ynYAAOSwjVVVpo8Q), and many other cards I'd expect to see in at most a dollar bargain box for that price. For example, a heavily scuffed 1961 Yogi Berra at $16? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-TOPPS-425-YOGI-BERRA-YANKEES-/142501351994?epid=159802993&hash=item212dbe123a:g:r0QAAOSwhChZssrZ I'd expect to see that card at Dave Estright's table for five bucks at most; maybe even less. Let me know if anyone else sees it that way or if I'm just drunk and Also, while I'm "just the webmaster" and have little to no input on OBC policy any more, I'm wondering if it would be a good idea for us to maybe clean out the Certified Dealers page, asking dealers we haven't checked in on if they're still interested in selling to us at a discount, or if they can update their info for us, maybe having an info page on the web site that dealers can look at and ask to be considered for Cert Dealer status - and maybe have someone much more diplomatic than I am have a private word with John M, and explain to him what we're looking for in at least reasonable prices from OBC certified dealers. ================= Date: 09 Sep 2017 16:21:30 +0000 To: Subject: Today From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: "'Wayne Delia'" , Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 09:22:30 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a second set of eyes on these OBC-grade card prices From: "Grant Rainsley" I=E2=99d be a little more impressed if he had mentioned a decent discount for =E2=9CABC=E2=99ers.=E2=9D It seems that is part of becomingan OBC Certified Dealer=E2=A6=E2=A6.. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: September 9, 2017 7:33 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a second set of eyes on these OBC-grade card prices Can one or two (or more) of you guys take a look at this eBay link for JohnMorrison (eBay ID oldbbcards) and tell me what you think of his asking prices? This should take you to his Buy It Now listings, recent-most appear first. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw &_sacat0&_udlo&_udhi&_ftrt901&_ftrv1&_sabdlo&_sabdhi&_samilow&_samihi&_sadis15&_stpos12603&_fss1&_fsrad= I got this note from him yesterday: "wayne if you get a chance check out the cards i listed in buy it now today. they are off grade big stars. they are from a deal i picked up. there areabout 400 or so 56-62 abc condition cards. send me your address i will ship them to you. thanks john usmc 1964-68 semper fi god bless america" Sal Domino, Bob Reed, and I were doing the bargain-box dumpster diving thing at George DiBenedetto's table at the White Plains East Coast National andwe talked to John there for quite a while. I get it that he (John) likes our group even though he calls us "ABC" instead of "OBC", but in my opinion,some/most/all? of his prices seem way out of line. Not 1909 Honus Wagner Stamp out-of-line, but I'm getting the idea that he thinks we're actively looking for crap cards and is somehow jacking up the price on them for some reason. Yeah, they're big stars, but no bargain on the price. I'd add up his cost of any of the cards I might need, then take the exact same amount of money over to Kurt Tourdot, Mike McCann, or Dave Estright and get much better condition for much less cost. John's even listed the ultra-rare 1989 Fleer JohnSmoltz HOF Rookie Card (disclaimer: it is not actually ultra-rare at all) for $6.60, plus $3 shipping. Other Buy-It-Now prices include a scuffed 1981Topps Nolan Ryan for the same price of $6.60 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-TOPPS-240-NOLAN-RYAN-ASTROS-/401382128238?epid206616003 &hashitem5d743d3a6e:g:ynYAAOSwjVVVpo8Q), and many other cards I'd expect to see in at most a dollar bargain box for that price. For example, a heavily scuffed 1961 Yogi Berra at $16? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-TOPPS-425-YOGI-BERRA-YANKEES-/142501351994?epid159802993 &hashitem212dbe123a:g:r0QAAOSwhChZssrZ I'd expect to see that card at Dave Estright's table for five bucks at most; maybe even less. Let me know if anyone else sees it that way or if I'm just drunk and disorderly. Also, while I'm "just the webmaster" and have little to no input on OBC policy any more, I'm wondering if it would be a good idea for us to maybe clean out the Certified Dealers page, asking dealers we haven't checked in on if they're still interested in selling to us at a discount, or if they can update their info for us, maybe having an info page on the web site that dealers can look at and ask to be considered for Cert Dealer status - and maybe have someone much more diplomatic than I am have a private word with JohnM, and explain to him what we're looking for in at least reasonable pricesfrom OBC certified dealers. This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:37:50 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , 'Wayne Delia' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a second set of eyes on these OBC-grade From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 13:52:05 -0400 To: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: Anthony Lost big time Sent from my iPad > On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Matt Yudt wrote: > Hi Anthony =E2=93 good luck! I am interested in this too, but wont bid on it of course. > The reason for this email is to see if you or anyone else is bidding on the OTHER OPC lots he has. I risk bringing it to attention and starting a bidding war between OBCers =E2=93 and hope we can prevent it. There=E2=99s also a 68, 70, 71 lots up to. I am going to go for the 68=E2=99s. > I=E2=99m sure we can recirculate any dupes pretty easily=E2=A6 > The lots end shortly after 10 PM tonight (EST) > Cheers, > Matt > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 3:09 PM > To: Rick > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set > I am the high bid at$60 which will go up > Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone > On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. > View item: > large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 > End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 11:00:24 -0700 To: Anthony Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set From: Rick WOW wasn't thinking that high Sent from my iPad > On Sep 9, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Anthony wrote: > Lost big time > Sent from my iPad >> On Sep 8, 2017, at 6:51 PM, Matt Yudt wrote: >> Hi Anthony =E2=93 good luck! I am interested in this too, but wont bid on it of course. >> The reason for this email is to see if you or anyone else is bidding on the OTHER OPC lots he has. I risk bringing it to attention and starting a bidding war between OBCers =E2=93 and hope we can prevent it. There=E2=99s also a 68, 70, 71 lots up to. I am going to go for the 68=E2=99s. >> I=E2=99m sure we can recirculate any dupes pretty easily=E2=A6 >> The lots end shortly after 10 PM tonight (EST) >> Cheers, >> Matt >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 3:09 PM >> To: Rick >> Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 set >> I am the high bid at$60 which will go up >> Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone >> On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> With the big push for OPC's by many of you now thought someone might be interested in this. >> View item: >> large lot of slightly over 400 total o-pee-chee baseball cards from the 1969 >> End Time: Sep 8, 2017, 7:25:07 PM PDT >> Sent from my iPad ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 18:08:45 +0000 Subject: Fleer lot on eBay From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 12:47:26 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: Doug DeJong OK, I am going to stir it up maybe a little. Last year on Labor Day weekend I picked up a big box of 50's cards at a show in Jacksonville with Guru. It had just over half the 53 Bowman color set including a bunch of stars so I decided to go for it. At the National I was done to 13 commons and I made it my mission to finish that set. While doing so I mentioned to several OBCers that I think it is a pretty awful and ugly set. That was met with some strong disagreement. I just find the plain photo front with no name very dull. Similarly, I find the 57 Topps set (which I knocked off shortly after the National) boring. Don't think that puts me in the majority either as a few said that is near the top of their favorite sets. I don't really care much for the 50-52 Bowmans either as the photos and overall look just blend in to me. Perhaps it is because I started collecting in the late 60s when it was so exciting each year to see what the new designs looked like. I know we once did a formal poll of our favorite sets years ago, but don't recall much discussion on our least favorite. Perhaps I have just forgotten. So here are my four least favorites sets. I will limit it to sets I have actually collected or finished - it is easy to pick on sets I am not working on yet. I will stop at 1972 Topps, because pretty much everything after that was pretty ugly (man, that might get me in trouble 1953 Bowman color 1957 Topps 1966 Topps (not only dull but they didn't have WS cards the year after the Twins made it to their first WS??!!) 1959 Topps -- some of those background colors make me wince -- the pink Gibson RC comes to mind. Honorable mention -- The two MP & Co sets, which are so ugly they are kind of cute. Ugliest 'insert' set 1965 Topps Embossed Would love to hear the opinions of others, keeping in mind collecting is inherently about fun and there is room for all different concepts of what is fun, cool, and even ugly! My dog is kind of ugly and I love her to Doug DeJong ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 11:43:32 -0700 To: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: Geordie Calvert '53 Color and '57 Topps on the ugly list? Blasphemy!!! My votes in no particular order of ugliness '54 Bowman '58 Topps '59 Topps '69 Topps '70 Topps > On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > OK, I am going to stir it up maybe a little. Last year on Labor Day weekend I picked up a big box of 50's cards at a show in Jacksonville with Guru. It had just over half the 53 Bowman color set including a bunch of starsso I decided to go for it. At the National I was done to 13 commons and Imade it my mission to finish that set. While doing so I mentioned to several OBCers that I think it is a pretty awful and ugly set. That was met with some strong disagreement. I just find the plain photo front with no name very dull. Similarly, I find the 57 Topps set (which I knocked off shortly after the National) boring. Don't think that puts me in the majority either as a few said that is near the top of their favorite sets. I don't really care much for the 50-52 Bowmans either as the photos and overall look just blend in to me. Perhaps it is because I started collecting in the late 60s when it was so exciting each year to see what the new designs looked like. > I know we once did a formal poll of our favorite sets years ago, but don't recall much discussion on our least favorite. Perhaps I have just forgotten. So here are my four least favorites sets. I will limit it to sets I have actually collected or finished - it is easy to pick on sets I am not working on yet. I will stop at 1972 Topps, because pretty much everything after that was pretty ugly (man, that might get me in trouble too!). > 1953 Bowman color > 1957 Topps > 1966 Topps (not only dull but they didn't have WS cards the year after the Twins made it to their first WS??!!) > 1959 Topps -- some of those background colors make me wince -- the pink Gibson RC comes to mind. > Honorable mention -- The two MP & Co sets, which are so ugly they are kind of cute. > Ugliest 'insert' set > 1965 Topps Embossed > Would love to hear the opinions of others, keeping in mind collecting is inherently about fun and there is room for all different concepts of what is fun, cool, and even ugly! My dog is kind of ugly and I love her to death! > Doug DeJong ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 14:58:20 -0400 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: "Thomas W. Billing" My ugly list starts with MP & Co - both years. 1958 Topps has to be on it,maybe due to the 1957 set being so sexy. 1949 Bowman is lackluster with those B&W pix and ugly color backgrounds. 1948 is OK, but boring as is the 1953 Bowman B&W set. The Kahns Wieners cards are drab and usual still havehot dog smells on them. I like them all, however. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Tom Billing > On Sep 9, 2017, at 2:43 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > '53 Color and '57 Topps on the ugly list? Blasphemy!!! > My votes in no particular order of ugliness > '54 Bowman > '58 Topps > '59 Topps > '69 Topps > '70 Topps > On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> OK, I am going to stir it up maybe a little. Last year on Labor Day weekend I picked up a big box of 50's cards at a show in Jacksonville with Guru. It had just over half the 53 Bowman color set including a bunch of stars so I decided to go for it. At the National I was done to 13 commons and I made it my mission to finish that set. While doing so I mentioned to several OBCers that I think it is a pretty awful and ugly set. That was met with some strong disagreement. I just find the plain photo front with no name very dull. Similarly, I find the 57 Topps set (which I knocked off shortly after the National) boring. Don't think that puts me in the majority either as a few said that is near the top of their favorite sets. I don't really care much for the 50-52 Bowmans either as the photos and overall lookjust blend in to me. Perhaps it is because I started collecting in the late 60s when it was so exciting each year to see what the new designs lookedlike. >> I know we once did a formal poll of our favorite sets years ago, but don't recall much discussion on our least favorite. Perhaps I have just forgotten. So here are my four least favorites sets. I will limit it to sets Ihave actually collected or finished - it is easy to pick on sets I am not working on yet. I will stop at 1972 Topps, because pretty much everything after that was pretty ugly (man, that might get me in trouble too!). >> 1953 Bowman color >> 1957 Topps >> 1966 Topps (not only dull but they didn't have WS cards the year after the Twins made it to their first WS??!!) >> 1959 Topps -- some of those background colors make me wince -- the pink Gibson RC comes to mind. >> Honorable mention -- The two MP & Co sets, which are so ugly they are kind of cute. >> Ugliest 'insert' set >> 1965 Topps Embossed >> Would love to hear the opinions of others, keeping in mind collecting isinherently about fun and there is room for all different concepts of what is fun, cool, and even ugly! My dog is kind of ugly and I love her to death! >> Doug DeJong ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 14:58:34 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net I'm not a big fan of the 1954 and 1958 Topps sets. As far as the "Bad Hair" 1966 set--it was the second year I collected cardsand I liked the red Yankee borders a whole lot better than the pink from 1965--so '66 gets a pass. Also never been a huge fan of the 1964 set--too plain for me (sort of like '54 an '58). peter mead -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Geordie Calvert ; Doug DeJong Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sat, Sep 9, 2017 2:50 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! Geordie's list might be my list too...except I don't collect 1954 bowman , which , using Doug's rule about actually collecting the set should disqualify But what if the reason I don't collect them is because they are so ugly? LOL 1966 is pretty uninspiring to me. The whole "hatless portrait " era is disappointing in design, but they are baseball cards so they aren't too bad :-) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Doug DeJong Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: September 9, 2017 at 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! '53 Color and '57 Topps on the ugly list? Blasphemy!!! My votes in no particular order of ugliness '54 Bowman '58 Topps '59 Topps '69 Topps '70 Topps On Sep 9, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] OK, I am going to stir it up maybe a little. Last year on Labor Day weekend I picked up a big box of 50's cards at a show in Jacksonville with Guru. It had just over half the 53 Bowman color set including a bunch of stars so I decided to go for it. At the National I was done to 13 commons and I made it my mission to finish that set. While doing so I mentioned to several OBCers that I think it is a pretty awful and ugly set. That was met withsome strong disagreement. I just find the plain photo front with no name very dull. Similarly, I find the 57 Topps set (which I knocked off shortlyafter the National) boring. Don't think that puts me in the majority either as a few said that is near the top of their favorite sets. I don't really care much for the 50-52 Bowmans either as the photos and overall look just blend in to me. Perhaps it is because I started collecting in the late 60s when it was so exciting each year to see what the new designs looked like. I know we once did a formal poll of our favorite sets years ago, but don't recall much discussion on our least favorite. Perhaps I have just forgotten. So here are my four least favorites sets. I will limit it to sets I have actually collected or finished - it is easy to pick on sets I am not working on yet. I will stop at 1972 Topps, because pretty much everything after that was pretty ugly (man, that might get me in trouble too!). 1953 Bowman color 1957 Topps 1966 Topps (not only dull but they didn't have WS cards the year after the Twins made it to their first WS??!!) 1959 Topps -- some of those background colors make me wince -- the pink Gibson RC comes to mind. Honorable mention -- The two MP & Co sets, which are so u gly they are kindof Ugliest 'insert' set 1965 Topps Embossed Would love to hear the opinions of others, keeping in mind collecting is inherently about fun and there is room for all different concepts of what is fun, cool, and even ugly! My dog is kind of ugly and I love her to death! Doug DeJong ================= To: "'Wayne Delia'" , Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:10:53 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a second set of eyes on these OBC-grade card prices From: "Sal Domino" We like when you are drunk and disorderly. I am also finding that I don=E2=99t always see great prices on George=E2=99s, but he does deal and Ialways give in a little to guys I like to talk with. He also has a lot of off grade older cards. I have found some nice deals. We did do a cleanup about 2 years ago of the list. Maybe we need to look at it again. I am looking at the 56 Jackie (the cheapest I have seen in a while), but I want to find out if that is paper on or paper loss on the front. I can=E2=99t speakfor the older hockey except that the stamps are pretty much in line with what I see on eBay. His other hockey seems high, I have gotten much better from Rich at ABC cards at the National. Some of the baseball could be gottenfor a few bucks cheaper, no question. Prices aren=E2=99t always matching the condition, like on the Berra. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 10:33 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a second set of eyes on these OBC-grade card prices Can one or two (or more) of you guys take a look at this eBay link for JohnMorrison (eBay ID oldbbcards) and tell me what you think of his asking prices? This should take you to his Buy It Now listings, recent-most appear first. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw &_sacat0&_udlo&_udhi&_ftrt901&_ftrv1&_sabdlo&_sabdhi&_samilow&_samihi&_sadis15&_stpos12603&_fss1&_fsrad= I got this note from him yesterday: "wayne if you get a chance check out the cards i listed in buy it now today. they are off grade big stars. they are from a deal i picked up. there areabout 400 or so 56-62 abc condition cards. send me your address i will ship them to you. thanks john usmc 1964-68 semper fi god bless america" Sal Domino, Bob Reed, and I were doing the bargain-box dumpster diving thing at George DiBenedetto's table at the White Plains East Coast National andwe talked to John there for quite a while. I get it that he (John) likes our group even though he calls us "ABC" instead of "OBC", but in my opinion,some/most/all? of his prices seem way out of line. Not 1909 Honus Wagner Stamp out-of-line, but I'm getting the idea that he thinks we're actively looking for crap cards and is somehow jacking up the price on them for some reason. Yeah, they're big stars, but no bargain on the price. I'd add up his cost of any of the cards I might need, then take the exact same amount of money over to Kurt Tourdot, Mike McCann, or Dave Estright and get much better condition for much less cost. John's even listed the ultra-rare 1989 Fleer JohnSmoltz HOF Rookie Card (disclaimer: it is not actually ultra-rare at all) for $6.60, plus $3 shipping. Other Buy-It-Now prices include a scuffed 1981Topps Nolan Ryan for the same price of $6.60 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-TOPPS-240-NOLAN-RYAN-ASTROS-/401382128238?epid206616003 &hashitem5d743d3a6e:g:ynYAAOSwjVVVpo8Q), and many other cards I'd expect to see in at most a dollar bargain box for that price. For example, a heavily scuffed 1961 Yogi Berra at $16? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1961-TOPPS-425-YOGI-BERRA-YANKEES-/142501351994?epid159802993 &hashitem212dbe123a:g:r0QAAOSwhChZssrZ I'd expect to see that card at Dave Estright's table for five bucks at most; maybe even less. Let me know if anyone else sees it that way or if I'm just drunk and disorderly. Also, while I'm "just the webmaster" and have little to no input on OBC policy any more, I'm wondering if it would be a good idea for us to maybe clean out the Certified Dealers page, asking dealers we haven't checked in on if they're still interested in selling to us at a discount, or if they can update their info for us, maybe having an info page on the web site that dealers can look at and ask to be considered for Cert Dealer status - and maybe have someone much more diplomatic than I am have a private word with JohnM, and explain to him what we're looking for in at least reasonable pricesfrom OBC certified dealers. ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 14:16:57 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: Nate Mack Ugly with a capital U! But I still love em if they are vintage!!! 70 Topps 68 Topps 48 Bowman 73 Topps 74 Topps 76-80 Topps Most importantly, ANY baseball card with any foil or shiny on it!! No lovefor those at all!! Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:27:39 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: "Sal Domino" Great topic! I have to give it some more thought, but I agree about the 57s. Really don't like that set a lot as well as the 61s (I KNOW I am in the minority on those). I love the 52B's (little cards some good portraits). 1970 everyone seems to hate but me, but that's because that was probably the first set I really collected as a kid. The 53B's I like better than 54's with the auto's in the ugly box. They kind of are like SSPC's, very clean, just a photo. I also like the 58s (mostly because of the yellow variations). That was the first 50s set I went after. How can you not like the 66T's? I mean that set is FULL of guys in flat tops! I started really liking 54T and 56T. I see a pole question in our future! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 3:17 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! Ugly with a capital U! But I still love em if they are vintage!!! 70 Topps 68 Topps 48 Bowman 73 Topps 74 Topps 76-80 Topps Most importantly, ANY baseball card with any foil or shiny on it!! No love for those at all!! Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:39:35 -0400 To: Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: Jake Brewer First of all I hate all the 70s sets. Hate the look of them, the sets (to me) are waaaaay to big and meaningless. I also think '61T is the worst '60s set. Can't stand those. My least favorite '50s set? The one I'm currently working on: '55 Topps haha. -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:27 PM, 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Great topic! I have to give it some more thought, but I agree about the 57s. Really don=E2=99t like that set a lot as well as the 61s (I KNOW I am in the minority on those). I love the 52B=E2=99s (little cards some good portraits). 1970 everyone seems to hate but me, but that=E2=99s because that was probably the first set I really collected as a kid. The 53B=E2=99s I like better than 54=E2=99s with the auto=E2=99s in the uglybox. They kind of are like SSPC=E2=99s, very clean, just a photo. I also like the 58s (mostly because of the yellow variations). That was the first 50s set I went after. How can you not like the 66T=E2=99s? I mean thatset is FULL of guys in flat tops! I started really liking 54T and 56T. I see a pole question in our future! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 3:17 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! > Ugly with a capital U! But I still love em if they are vintage!!! > 70 Topps > 68 Topps > 48 Bowman > 73 Topps > 74 Topps > 76-80 Topps > Most importantly, ANY baseball card with any foil or shiny on it!! No love for those at all!! > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:53:00 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: New Topic From: "Thomas W. Billing" I may have brought this up before, so I apologize if so. I am curious to see why certain variations/errors get off-the-wall prices while others are just ignored. I present the 1958 #433 Herrera error card that goes for over $1000 normally. The 1953 Jim Fridley card has the same issue with fading letters and is considered just a common. The 1957 #176 Baker error card with part of the =E2=9Cr" gone on the back goes off the wall but I have scans of about 10 others that have the same issue that are mostly ignored. The 1961 Fairly with green in the ball on the back goes forhuge prices but other cards in that set are yawners. I know supply and demand control pricing (unless you are toppsaholic or irishhosta) but I thinkthere are not that many of these others either. This is just me being bored on a Saturday afternoon. Tom Billing ================= To: OBC Ramblings , "Thomas W. Billing" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 20:00:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Topic From: richard dingman Just wait, Tom, our time will come, though I may be long gone by then. In other words, I have no idea why things are the way they are, but likely it has much to do with the fact that not many know about these and even less Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:53 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New Topic I may have brought this up before, so I apologize if so. I am curious to see why certain variations/errors get off-the-wall prices while others are just ignored. I present the 1958 #433 Herrera error card that goes for over $1000 normally. The 1953 Jim Fridley card has the same issue with fading letters and is considered just a common. The 1957 #176 Bakererror card with part of the =93r" gone on the back goes off the wall but Ihave scans of about 10 others that have the same issue that are mostly ignored. The 1961 Fairly with green in the ball on the back goes for huge prices but other cards in that set are yawners. I know supply and demand control pricing (unless you are toppsaholic or irishhosta) but I think there are not that many of these others either. This is just me being bored on a Saturday Tom Billing ================= To: Doug DeJong Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 20:00:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: 09 Sep 2017 20:13:36 +0000 To: Subject: 9/9 Waivers- baseball and football From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 13:23:21 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Topic From: Rick Sent from my iPad > On Sep 9, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Rick wrote: > I think one big issue is what each individual person views as a variation. Because I'm not a big variation collector I don't view most of the differences that are talked about as variations. People who are big variation collectors consider every dot,color tint,short line etc. as a variation. For me if its not a different pose,different text something I can "prove" as a conscious change I'm not interested. Rick > Sent from my iPad >> On Sep 9, 2017, at 1:00 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Just wait, Tom, our time will come, though I may be long gone by then. >> In other words, I have no idea why things are the way they are, but likely it has much to do with the fact that not many know about these and even less >> Richard D >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:53 PM >> To: OBC Ramblings >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New Topic >> I may have brought this up before, so I apologize if so. >> I am curious to see why certain variations/errors get off-the-wall prices while others are just ignored. I present the 1958 #433 Herrera error cardthat goes for over $1000 normally. The 1953 Jim Fridley card has the same issue with fading letters and is considered just a common. The 1957 #176 Baker error card with part of the =E2=9Cr" gone on the back goes off the wall but I have scans of about 10 others that have the same issue that are mostly ignored. The 1961 Fairly with green in the ball on the back goes for huge prices but other cards in that set are yawners. I know supply and demand control pricing (unless you are toppsaholic or irishhosta) but I think there are not that many of these others either. This is just me being bored on a Saturday afternoon. >> Tom Billing ================= To: Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:31:04 -0500 Subject: Re: New Topic From: "George Vrechek" Expensive versus non-expensive variations and printing differences. I think additional factors, other than scarcity, include - how long has the printing difference/variation been known and how old are the sets? Thus the Herrer and Bakep qualify as old and known for a while. I think that as more cards came to light, they diluted the enthusiasm. I also think the prices are a little "thin" for Herrer and Bakep in that they are not hot items and the book prices may be wishful thinking leftover from a previous era. George Vrechek ================= To: Nate Mack , Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 17:14:47 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: mark zentkovich We need someone to set up a poll online somewhere so we can vote and keep track Any volunteers for that? Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 2:17 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! Ugly with a capital U! But I still love em if they are vintage!!! 70 Topps 68 Topps 48 Bowman 73 Topps 74 Topps 76-80 Topps Most importantly, ANY baseball card with any foil or shiny on it!! No love for those at all!! Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2017 15:26:21 -0700 To: mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! [1 Attachment] From: Geordie Calvert I went on Google and search for poll makers. Let's see if this one works. It allows multiple answers and you guys can add choices and increase the options at the bottom. https://www.poll-maker.com/poll1869416x04db47C1-50 > On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:14 PM, mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from mark zentkovich included below] > We need someone to set up a poll online somewhere so we can vote and keeptrack > Any volunteers for that? > Mark Z > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > From: Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 2:17 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! > Ugly with a capital U! But I still love em if they are vintage!!! > 70 Topps > 68 Topps > 48 Bowman > 73 Topps > 74 Topps > 76-80 Topps > Most importantly, ANY baseball card with any foil or shiny on it!! No love for those at all!! > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 01:20:21 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: richard dingman Toppa and Toops?? I might be collecting them in a parallel universe. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 6:26 PM To: mark zentkovich Cc: Nate Mack; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! I went on Google and search for poll makers. Let's see if this one works. It allows multiple answers and you guys can add choices and increase the options at the bottom. https://www.poll-maker.com/poll1869416x04db47C1-50 [https://www.poll-maker.com/3012/images/pm1200b.png] Have your say: OBC poll: top 5 ugliest sets Voice your opinion on the poll: OBC poll: top 5 ugliest sets On Sep 9, 2017, at 3:14 PM, mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > We need someone to set up a poll online somewhere so we can vote and keep track Any volunteers for that? Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows From: Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 2:17 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! Ugly with a capital U! But I still love em if they are vintage!!! 70 Topps 68 Topps 48 Bowman 73 Topps 74 Topps 76-80 Topps Most importantly, ANY baseball card with any foil or shiny on it!! No love for those at all!! Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 06:44:27 +0200 (CEST) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Controversial topic -- ugly sets!! From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 I will definitely say that some of my tastes have changed over the years. Ibegan collecting in 1978. The early 80's were my heyday. Having old cards was a rarity in my group of friends. Some of us had cards from the late 70's, but it was rare to see anything earlier. I can remember not liking the 1972 psychos at all. I don't remember what it was that I didn't like about them, but I didnt't care for them. I also did not like the 68's. Fastforward to the year 2000 or so, when I got back into collecting. One of myfirst moves was to go for my birth year set - 1972. I am not sure what changed my taste for this set, but I love it. I am also a big fan of the sets that push well past 700 cards. I like seeing cards of the part time players - not just the starters. So, I really like some of those 70's sets. With that being said, my least favorite vintage Topps set would be the 1976 set. But even with that being my least favorite, I still absolutely enjoy the set. My least favorite bowman set is the 1953 Black and white set. I wish they would have just used color on those beauties. Top prize for myleast favorite set goes to the 1943 MP & Co set. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 9, 2017 at 6:47 PM "Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > OK, I am going to stir it up maybe a little. Last year on Labor Day weekend I picked up a big box of 50's cards at a show in Jacksonville with Guru. It had just over half the 53 Bowman color set including a bunch of stars so I decided to go for it. At the National I was done to 13 commons and I made it my mission to finish that set. While doing so I mentioned to several OBCers that I think it is a pretty awful and ugly set. That was met with some strong disagreement. I just find the plain photo front with noname very dull. Similarly, I find the 57 Topps set (which I knocked off shortly after the National) boring. Don't think that puts me in the majority either as a few said that is near the top of their favorite sets. I don't really care much for the 50-52 Bowmans either as the photos and overall look just blend in to me. Perhaps it is because I started collecting in thelate 60s when it was so exciting each year to see what the new designs looked > I know we once did a formal poll of our favorite sets years ago, but don't recall much discussion on our least favorite. Perhaps I have just forgotten. So here are my four least favorites sets. I will limit it to sets I have actually collected or finished - it is easy to pick on sets I am not working on yet. I will stop at 1972 Topps, because pretty much everything after that was pretty ugly (man, that might get me in trouble too!). > 1953 Bowman color > 1957 Topps > 1966 Topps (not only dull but they didn't have WS cards the year after the Twins made it to their first WS??!!) > 1959 Topps -- some of those background colors make me wince -- the pink Gibson RC comes to mind. > Honorable mention -- The two MP & Co sets, which are so ugly they arekind of cute. > Ugliest 'insert' set > 1965 Topps Embossed > Would love to hear the opinions of others, keeping in mind collectingis inherently about fun and there is room for all different concepts of what is fun, cool, and even ugly! My dog is kind of ugly and I love her to death! > Doug DeJong ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 13:16:17 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: Kickoff Availables Football, Baseball, Basketball non-sports From: Dan Angland Morning Gentlemen,After going through the September Seventies spreadsheet and hitting as many list as I could (7) I have some stuff left over for anyone who did not participate.New guys please do not be shy.Please include your address for speedy shipping. Have an OBC Sunday!Dan Angland 1971 Topps Football 68, 109, 1261973 Topps Football Broncos Team Checklist1974 topps Football 15, 85, 528 Team Checklists Browns , Giants1974 Wonder Bread Football 17, (2x) 21, 27, 28, 291975 Topps Football 91, 105, 130, 205,212, 215, 236, 261, 272, 372, 379, 394, 4361976 Wonder Bread Football 7 1980 Fleer Football 3, 10, 65 1974-75 Topps Basketball 102, 107 1979-80 Topps Basketball 56 (3x) 103 1971 Partridge Family 25, 39 (2x)1978 Kiss 33, 57 (2x) 1977 Star Wars (Blue) 22 **, 25*, 29 **, 36*, 41*, 59*, 60* 1977 Star Wars (red) 81*1977 Star Wars (green) 2581978 Superman (white) 10,111978 Superman (red) 1972 Topps Baseball 467 1973 Topps Baseball 1151974 Topps Baseball 28, 107, 108, 112, 236, 258, 265, 366, 367, 370, 464, 486, 485, 6501974 Topps Baseball Team Checklists * Tigers, Angels, Twins, Red Sox Checklists** A's, Padres 1974 Topps Traded 262T, 616T 1975 Topps Baseball 350 (2x), 4401977 Topps Baseball 626, 658 1977 Topps Baseball Burger King 11 1978 Topps Baseball 241979 Topps Baseball 125 ================= To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com, Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 11:46:03 -0400 Subject: Pete and Joe and Steve and Mick and Jim From: ED SCHOTT good to see Mr Mead and Mr Denning yesterday at the monthly Slade School Show a little south of Baltimore. Always a pleasure boys Thanks to Joe for a 65 Catfish and he also handed me some stuff from Sir Stevie Rittenberg by way of the National thanks again Stevie Joe looked a tad tired but Im sure he'll recover just fine from the 100 or so packages he just mailed out to us all. That man has some energy Ill tell ya. I have decided to complete my 65-9 project even amidst some of the back and forth on the hoarding topic Again I will pay the cash and throw in some cardboard if you can help me with the last 3 2 Mantles and 1 Catfish left ================= Date: 10 Sep 2017 16:15:22 +0000 To: Subject: 1971 OPC From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:41:04 -0700 To: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1971 OPC From: Rick Love this set also know it's been talked about in the past probably the toughest set to complete of that era if your starting in now. Random guess butI would say $10,000 to put it together. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:15 AM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I loved seeing the interest in a couple of ebay OPC lots this week. It was unfortunate to see the end bids so large on those lots. THat has seemedto be the trend lately with OPC's. I am down to just two cards needed to complete the 1971 OPC set - 570(Palmer) and 618(McGraw). These are both cards that are part of the second to last series, which is more scarce and costly than the high numbers. At least that's how the market seems to reflect the last few years. The Palmer and Mcraw rarely come up on ebay. The last three listing for the Palmer, two of which were graded, went for 50, 47and 44 bucks. THe last Mcgraw that hit ebay was in mid august and went for over 70 bucks. Yep. 70 dollars. I did not come close in either of those auctions. All of the cards were in good shape. I haven't seen any beatersoffered for these two. But it's just crazy. I know a few of you are juststarting on 71. I love the set. The backs are super cool. But it is challenging. Very challenging. > Happy Sunday everyone > TJ ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 09:46:34 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wauction #11 Results From: Larry Tipton 1. 1950 Callahan =E2=9CHall of Fame=E2=9D baseball Paul Waner: Rick Lyons 2. 1961 Topps baseball #406 =E2=9CMantle Blasts 565 Ft. Home Run=E2=9D: Ed Hutchinson 3. 1933 Sports King #39 Jack Westrope (jockey): John Scott Gray 4. 1954 Topps =E2=9CScoops=E2=9D #27 Bob Feller: Mike Glasser 5. Bob Clemente lot of three different cards: Greg Conway 6. Hank Aaron lot of three different cards: Tom Elliott 7. 1962 Topps baseball #132 =E2=9CAngels Team=E2=9D GREEN TINT variation: Ken Goetsch 8. 1970-1971 Topps basketball #75 Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar): Marshall 9. 1956 Topps baseball lot of three cards: Steve Sanker 10. 1959 Topps baseball lot of two cards: Shawn Smart Stand by for the final Wauction #12 next month! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 14:53:51 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC Subject: 56 Mantle From: John Stamper Yesterday I went to the only so called card show that comes out to LA. It'sa coin show with about 20 card tables. I brought Karyn with me so we couldmake a day outing and head to Knotts Berry Farm afterwards for Dinner. This show is always better when Mark Macrae is there. He had some Remars for me which helped the 46 set get close to completion. I dug through some ofhis star player off grade cards he had. I looked at Killebrew first and found his rookie card at a price I couldn't pass up. Next stack was Mantle and right on top a nice looking 1956 Mantle. And just like that I have a 56 Mantle. Way cool!!! Mark, like he always does, gave me a nice deal. I picked up a nice 69 Namath for $10 and a few other cards at another table. Karyn asked if she wasn't there would I have spent more $$$ and I told her that I just payed the most for a single card that I've ever paid. I still have some star power to buy that will easily top this one, but it's a cool pick John Stamper ================= Date: 10 Sep 2017 22:15:24 +0000 To: Subject: Bob D'Angelo From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:57:01 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Anson Whaley Hello everyone - I wanted to update the group on the status of Pam Montgomery (wife of deceased Kent Montgomery, who was an OBC member). Apologies for the length of this but by now, you know brevity isn't my strong suit. Pam and I have been in touch over the past few weeks. She has catalogued her cards as best she could and I finally got to see the collection today. I was happy to find a GGS card, which utterly confused her. I was able to explain and clear things up :) In all, she probably has around 10,000-15,000 cards ranging from the 1950s -1985. Fewer 1950s and I'd say they are predominantly 1970s-1985. A good amount of 1960s, though. Most cards are actually in decent shape. I saw very few beaters and would say the bulk of the cards are G-VG/EX. Some fair and also a decent amount of EX. Most of the 1950s are lower-end. She doesn't have the time nor the desire to send out hundreds of packages of small bundles of cards. Therefore, the best strategy for her (in my opinion) is to sell these in lots by year. She also has a few dozen cards that 'book' at about $75 and up (in NM...hers were a little lesser) and I recommended she try to sell those individually. Best card I saw was a really clean Rod Carew Rookie card (probably EX or EX-MT). Nothing extraordinary but some nice cards. A few 1960s Mantles but with some condition issues. Based on the approach I've recommended to her, she wants to sell the collection as follows: - *Lots of cards* (i.e. 1968 Topps lot of 250 cards, 1971 Topps lot of 200 cards, etc.) - these will be grouped by year and hopefully priced to move. These lots are largely commons but generally have some stars included. We will try to identify key cards in the lot and condition as best we can so you can have a good idea of what is available. Essentially, plan on lots with some stars mixed in - some of the stars w/book up to $30 and $40 in a few cases. - *Complete sets* - she has a few of these (1976, 1978, 1981, I believe .. some others that are close) that are either complete or missing perhaps only a few commons. We went through and identified if key cards were present or missing (for example, she had a complete 1980 Topps set but missing the Henderson rookie - this type of stuff will be noted when her list is ready) - *Individual card sales* - I wanted to keep these to a minimum. Basically, any card booking at over $50 or $60 will be listed individually. Condition will be noted and I expect there will be about 25 or so of these We will do our best to price these to move. These cards are not my forte but I have a decent idea of what they sell for on eBay, etc. We want to offer them at prices below that but also not give them away because the money could be helpful to her. Anything unsold will probably be lowered and then up on eBay if not sold to our group. OBC will have first crack at them and again, the goal is to get them cheaper than eBay. I hope this provides an ample update. We spent about three hours cataloging cards today and, while it was a little more than I anticipated doing since I had a busy week, am glad that I was able to help her. She was extremely grateful. The next step is that she is going to type up the notes from today and then we will get a list of what is available out to OBC. Her sons have Paypal so the likely path will probably be to email her if interested, she will confirm the sale, buyer will pay via PPFF, and she will mail out. If anyone has any questions about the general process or sale, please let me know. *At this time, please don't ask me about specific cards in sets, etc. *We discussed that information and I gave her some card numbers of key cards, etc., while I was there, but I don't have any of that information on me right now. Happy to answer other questions, though. 'Cap' Anson On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I hope this will be the right forum for this message. > Richard D > ------------------------------ > *From:* groucho1001 > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM > *To:* richard dingman > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I > have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I > recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks > for offering. Pam > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: richard dingman > Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Pam Montgomery > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Pam, > I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he > joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. > Sorry for your loss. > I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which > many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to > be there. > I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission > I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is > anyone who could help. > Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally > of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from > the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the > point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never > sell. > So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a > sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them > up. > Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. > But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. > Best, > Richard D > ------------------------------ > *From:* Pam Montgomery > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM > *To:* richard dingman > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Richard: > I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late > husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved > collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him > countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his > "healthy" life and knew his cards. > Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the > "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at > a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or > anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could > trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking > advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by > year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I > did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I > realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time > and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. > I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before > because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to > give them away because they are valuable. > I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more > detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each > box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other > OBC member who may be able to help. > Thanks for your time > Pam Montgomery > groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: 11 Sep 2017 03:34:54 +0000 To: Subject: 18 From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: , Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 21:02:01 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 From: "Grant Rainsley" They =E2=9Cgot some =E2splainin=E2=99 to do, Lucy!=E2=9D 18 in a ROW??? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: September 10, 2017 8:35 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 I am not now nor have I ever been, but if I WERE a Cleveland Indians fan, I might have something to say about now. I just might... This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= To: Anson Whaley , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 04:12:52 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 00:17:40 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 From: Jimi Thayer I am certainly a diehard tribe fan and loving all this....but I'm going to wait to celebrate a little harder after winning the World Series. :) Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:02 AM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > They =E2=9Cgot some =E2splainin=E2=99 to do, Lucy!=E2=9D 18 in a ROW??? > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: September 10, 2017 8:35 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 > I am not now nor have I ever been, but if I WERE a Cleveland Indians fan, I might have something to say about now. > I just might... > Virus-free. www.avg.com ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:02:38 -0400 To: mikerw7@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 From: David Luciano Ya baby, Was there with my 20 tear old daughter for #18. She said she wants to go back for the 20th. I said 1 at a time. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 10, 2017, at 11:34 PM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I am not now nor have I ever been, but if I WERE a Cleveland Indians fan, I might have something to say about now. > I just might... ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:27:21 -0400 To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 From: "Thomas W. Billing" I am also a diehard Tribe fan but know the history too well. 1954 best AL record ever and get sept in WS by Giants. 2007 up 3 to 1 to Bosox and losethe last three. 2016 up 3 to 1 to Cubs and lose the last three. I=E2=99ll believe it when I see it and hope it finally happens. > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I am certainly a diehard tribe fan and loving all this....but I'm going to wait to celebrate a little harder after winning the World Series. :) > Jimi > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:02 AM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > >> They =E2=9Cgot some =E2splainin=E2=99 to do, Lucy!=E2=9D 18 in a ROW??? >> Grant >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: September 10, 2017 8:35 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 >> I am not now nor have I ever been, but if I WERE a Cleveland Indians fan, I might have something to say about now. >> I just might... >> Virus-free. ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:21:49 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Yahoo I would be in too. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 00:48, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I also look forward to helping Mrs Montgomery with this collection. > The cards belong in OBC , so as long as we can collaborate, we should make that happen. > I am willing to put some money where my mouth is to make this an OBC project to be proud of. > I won't need any of these cards for my collection but that's fine, I would be happy if the group can use them. > Thank you Anson for your work thus far, it's great to hear! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Anson Whaley, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: September 10, 2017 at 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? > Cap > Thank you SO much for taking the time to show kindness. I am pretty brokebut hope to buy a "slice" of this collection. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hello everyone - > I wanted to update the group on the status of Pam Montgomery (wife of deceased Kent Montgomery, who was an OBC member). Apologies for the length of this but by now, you know brevity isn't my strong suit. > Pam and I have been in touch over the past few weeks. She has catalogued her cards as best she could and I finally got to see the collection today. I was happy to find a GGS card, which utterly confused her. I was able to explain and clear things up :) > In all, she probably has around 10,000-15,000 cards ranging from the 1950s -1985. Fewer 1950s and I'd say they are predominantly 1970s-1985. A good amount of 1960s, though. Most cards are actually in decent shape. I saw very few beaters and would say the bulk of the cards are G-VG/EX. Some fair and also a decent amount of EX. Most of the 1950s are lower-end. > She doesn't have the time nor the desire to send out hundreds of packagesof small bundles of cards. Therefore, the best strategy for her (in my opinion) is to sell these in lots by year. She also has a few dozen cards that'book' at about $75 and up (in NM...hers were a little lesser) and I recommended she try to sell those individually. Best card I saw was a really clean Rod Carew Rookie card (probably EX or EX-MT). Nothing extraordinary but some nice cards. A few 1960s Mantles but with some condition issues. > Based on the approach I've recommended to her, she wants to sell the collection as follows: > Lots of cards (i.e. 1968 Topps lot of 250 cards, 1971 Topps lot of 200 cards, etc.) - these will be grouped by year and hopefully priced to move. These lots are largely commons but generally have some stars included. We will try to identify key cards in the lot and condition as best we can so you can have a good idea of what is available. Essentially, plan on lots with some stars mixed in - some of the stars w/book up to $30 and $40 in a few cases. > Complete sets - she has a few of these (1976, 1978, 1981, I believe .. some others that are close) that are either complete or missing perhaps only a few commons. We went through and identified if key cards were present or missing (for example, she had a complete 1980 Topps set but missing the Henderson rookie - this type of stuff will be noted when her list is ready) > Individual card sales - I wanted to keep these to a minimum. Basically, any card booking at over $50 or $60 will be listed individually. Condition will be noted and I expect there will be about 25 or so of these cards. > We will do our best to price these to move. These cards are not my forte but I have a decent idea of what they sell for on eBay, etc. We want to offer them at prices below that but also not give them away because the money could be helpful to her. Anything unsold will probably be lowered and then up on eBay if not sold to our group. OBC will have first crack at them and again, the goal is to get them cheaper than eBay. > I hope this provides an ample update. We spent about three hours cataloging cards today and, while it was a little more than I anticipated doing since I had a busy week, am glad that I was able to help her. She was extremely grateful. The next step is that she is going to type up the notes from today and then we will get a list of what is available out to OBC. Her sons have Paypal so the likely path will probably be to email her if interested, she will confirm the sale, buyer will pay via PPFF, and she will mail out. > If anyone has any questions about the general process or sale, please letme know. At this time, please don't ask me about specific cards in sets, etc. We discussed that information and I gave her some card numbers of key cards, etc., while I was there, but I don't have any of that information on me right now. Happy to answer other questions, though. > Thanks! > 'Cap' Anson >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I hope this will be the right forum for this message. >> Richard D >> From: groucho1001 >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM >> To: richard dingman >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >> Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: richard dingman >> Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Pam Montgomery >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >> Hi Pam, >> I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. >> Sorry for your loss. >> I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved tobe >> I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. >> Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. >> So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them >> Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. >> But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. >> Best, >> Richard D >> From: Pam Montgomery >> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM >> To: richard dingman >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >> Hi Richard: >> I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. >> Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at afair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyoneyou trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust tolook at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year rangingmost from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a fewboxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couplecard shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. >> I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box ifyou are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. >> Thanks for your time >> Pam Montgomery >> groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:30:29 -0400 To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Steve I would like to help Mrs. Montgomery as well. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I would be in too. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 00:48, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> I also look forward to helping Mrs Montgomery with this collection. >> The cards belong in OBC , so as long as we can collaborate, we should make that happen. >> I am willing to put some money where my mouth is to make this an OBC project to be proud of. >> I won't need any of these cards for my collection but that's fine, I would be happy if the group can use them. >> Thank you Anson for your work thus far, it's great to hear! >> OBC Forever, >> Brian >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: Anson Whaley, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: September 10, 2017 at 9:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? >> Cap >> Thank you SO much for taking the time to show kindness. I am pretty broke but hope to buy a "slice" of this collection. >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hello everyone - >> I wanted to update the group on the status of Pam Montgomery (wife of deceased Kent Montgomery, who was an OBC member). Apologies for the length ofthis but by now, you know brevity isn't my strong suit. >> Pam and I have been in touch over the past few weeks. She has cataloguedher cards as best she could and I finally got to see the collection today.I was happy to find a GGS card, which utterly confused her. I was able to explain and clear things up :) >> In all, she probably has around 10,000-15,000 cards ranging from the 1950s -1985. Fewer 1950s and I'd say they are predominantly 1970s-1985. A goodamount of 1960s, though. Most cards are actually in decent shape. I saw very few beaters and would say the bulk of the cards are G-VG/EX. Some fair and also a decent amount of EX. Most of the 1950s are lower-end. >> She doesn't have the time nor the desire to send out hundreds of packages of small bundles of cards. Therefore, the best strategy for her (in my opinion) is to sell these in lots by year. She also has a few dozen cards that 'book' at about $75 and up (in NM...hers were a little lesser) and I recommended she try to sell those individually. Best card I saw was a really clean Rod Carew Rookie card (probably EX or EX-MT). Nothing extraordinary butsome nice cards. A few 1960s Mantles but with some condition issues. >> Based on the approach I've recommended to her, she wants to sell the collection as follows: >> Lots of cards (i.e. 1968 Topps lot of 250 cards, 1971 Topps lot of 200 cards, etc.) - these will be grouped by year and hopefully priced to move. These lots are largely commons but generally have some stars included. We will try to identify key cards in the lot and condition as best we can so youcan have a good idea of what is available. Essentially, plan on lots with some stars mixed in - some of the stars w/book up to $30 and $40 in a few cases. >> Complete sets - she has a few of these (1976, 1978, 1981, I believe .. some others that are close) that are either complete or missing perhaps onlya few commons. We went through and identified if key cards were present ormissing (for example, she had a complete 1980 Topps set but missing the Henderson rookie - this type of stuff will be noted when her list is ready) >> Individual card sales - I wanted to keep these to a minimum. Basically, any card booking at over $50 or $60 will be listed individually. Condition will be noted and I expect there will be about 25 or so of these cards. >> We will do our best to price these to move. These cards are not my fortebut I have a decent idea of what they sell for on eBay, etc. We want to offer them at prices below that but also not give them away because the moneycould be helpful to her. Anything unsold will probably be lowered and thenup on eBay if not sold to our group. OBC will have first crack at them andagain, the goal is to get them cheaper than eBay. >> I hope this provides an ample update. We spent about three hours cataloging cards today and, while it was a little more than I anticipated doing since I had a busy week, am glad that I was able to help her. She was extremely grateful. The next step is that she is going to type up the notes from today and then we will get a list of what is available out to OBC. Her sons have Paypal so the likely path will probably be to email her if interested,she will confirm the sale, buyer will pay via PPFF, and she will mail out. >> If anyone has any questions about the general process or sale, please let me know. At this time, please don't ask me about specific cards in sets, etc. We discussed that information and I gave her some card numbers of key cards, etc., while I was there, but I don't have any of that information onme right now. Happy to answer other questions, though. >> Thanks! >> 'Cap' Anson >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> I hope this will be the right forum for this message. >>> Richard D >>> From: groucho1001 >>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM >>> To: richard dingman >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >>> Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed whatI have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. >>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: richard dingman >>> Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: Pam Montgomery >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >>> Hi Pam, >>> I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. >>> Sorry for your loss. >>> I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at whichmany OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to be there. >>> I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. >>> Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. >>> So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain froma sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them >>> Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. >>> But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. >>> Best, >>> Richard D >>> From: Pam Montgomery >>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM >>> To: richard dingman >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >>> Hi Richard: >>> I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. >>> Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage ofmy lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not havetime to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. >>> I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. >>> Thanks for your time >>> Pam Montgomery >>> groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:46:53 -0400 To: Steve Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: ShoelessWes Aye, I the same. Wes Shepard > On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Steve rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I would like to help Mrs. Montgomery as well. > Steve Sankner > Sent from my iPad >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I would be in too. >> Jerry Barnes >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 00:48, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] >>> I also look forward to helping Mrs Montgomery with this collection. >>> The cards belong in OBC , so as long as we can collaborate, we should make that happen. >>> I am willing to put some money where my mouth is to make this an OBC project to be proud of. >>> I won't need any of these cards for my collection but that's fine, I would be happy if the group can use them. >>> Thank you Anson for your work thus far, it's great to hear! >>> OBC Forever, >>> Brian >>> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> To: Anson Whaley, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: September 10, 2017 at 9:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? >>> Cap >>> Thank you SO much for taking the time to show kindness. I am pretty broke but hope to buy a "slice" of this collection. >>> Aaron >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hello everyone - >>> I wanted to update the group on the status of Pam Montgomery (wife of deceased Kent Montgomery, who was an OBC member). Apologies for the length of this but by now, you know brevity isn't my strong suit. >>> Pam and I have been in touch over the past few weeks. She has catalogued her cards as best she could and I finally got to see the collection today. I was happy to find a GGS card, which utterly confused her. I was able toexplain and clear things up :) >>> In all, she probably has around 10,000-15,000 cards ranging from the 1950s -1985. Fewer 1950s and I'd say they are predominantly 1970s-1985. A good amount of 1960s, though. Most cards are actually in decent shape. I saw very few beaters and would say the bulk of the cards are G-VG/EX. Some fair and also a decent amount of EX. Most of the 1950s are lower-end. >>> She doesn't have the time nor the desire to send out hundreds of packages of small bundles of cards. Therefore, the best strategy for her (in my opinion) is to sell these in lots by year. She also has a few dozen cards that 'book' at about $75 and up (in NM...hers were a little lesser) and I recommended she try to sell those individually. Best card I saw was a really clean Rod Carew Rookie card (probably EX or EX-MT). Nothing extraordinary but some nice cards. A few 1960s Mantles but with some condition issues. >>> Based on the approach I've recommended to her, she wants to sell the collection as follows: >>> Lots of cards (i.e. 1968 Topps lot of 250 cards, 1971 Topps lot of 200 cards, etc.) - these will be grouped by year and hopefully priced to move. These lots are largely commons but generally have some stars included. We will try to identify key cards in the lot and condition as best we can so you can have a good idea of what is available. Essentially, plan on lots withsome stars mixed in - some of the stars w/book up to $30 and $40 in a few cases. >>> Complete sets - she has a few of these (1976, 1978, 1981, I believe .. some others that are close) that are either complete or missing perhaps only a few commons. We went through and identified if key cards were present or missing (for example, she had a complete 1980 Topps set but missing the Henderson rookie - this type of stuff will be noted when her list is ready) >>> Individual card sales - I wanted to keep these to a minimum. Basically,any card booking at over $50 or $60 will be listed individually. Conditionwill be noted and I expect there will be about 25 or so of these cards. >>> We will do our best to price these to move. These cards are not my forte but I have a decent idea of what they sell for on eBay, etc. We want to offer them at prices below that but also not give them away because the money could be helpful to her. Anything unsold will probably be lowered and then up on eBay if not sold to our group. OBC will have first crack at them and again, the goal is to get them cheaper than eBay. >>> I hope this provides an ample update. We spent about three hours cataloging cards today and, while it was a little more than I anticipated doing since I had a busy week, am glad that I was able to help her. She was extremely grateful. The next step is that she is going to type up the notes from today and then we will get a list of what is available out to OBC. Her sonshave Paypal so the likely path will probably be to email her if interested, she will confirm the sale, buyer will pay via PPFF, and she will mail out. >>> If anyone has any questions about the general process or sale, please let me know. At this time, please don't ask me about specific cards in sets,etc. We discussed that information and I gave her some card numbers of keycards, etc., while I was there, but I don't have any of that information on me right now. Happy to answer other questions, though. >>> Thanks! >>> 'Cap' Anson >>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> I hope this will be the right forum for this message. >>>> Richard D >>>> From: groucho1001 >>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM >>>> To: richard dingman >>>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >>>> Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. >>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>> From: richard dingman >>>> Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) >>>> To: Pam Montgomery >>>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >>>> Hi Pam, >>>> I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. >>>> Sorry for your loss. >>>> I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to be there. >>>> I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there isanyone who could help. >>>> Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to thepoint where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will neversell. >>>> So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them >>>> Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. >>>> But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. >>>> Best, >>>> Richard D >>>> From: Pam Montgomery >>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM >>>> To: richard dingman >>>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >>>> Hi Richard: >>>> I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy"life and knew his cards. >>>> Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them ata fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. >>>> I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. >>>> Thanks for your time >>>> Pam Montgomery >>>> groucho1001@comcast.net ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:48:31 +0000 Subject: Seventies September update From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 12:49:44 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 3 quick things From: ShoelessWes I'm trying to figure out why and how my webpage ate my football-basketball-boxing-non sport lists. Thank God it didn't eat my baseball or hockey lists. Working, standing by.... My step son surprises me with announcing his intentions to join OBC! JustinNewsome has filled out the app, and looking to recruit a couple recommendations. It looks like his responses are 'coached,' but they are really his OWN! My daughter turns 3 next week. Wanted to play cards last night. She made short work of a 76 ron cey and a small stack of others.... ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:28:19 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Price Drop! From: "Thomas W. Billing" Notice the drop from $4.5 mil! http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2= ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:32:09 -0400 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: Anson Whaley I was honestly expecting it to drop from $4.5 million to like $1.5 million. $30,000? Now he's only about 100x too high. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:28 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Notice the drop from $4.5 mil! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909- > GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933? > ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649 ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:37:07 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: "Thomas W. Billing" Even if ALL zeroes are gone, I would not buy it as it is not an item I am interested in, AND, it is severely damaged. Someone replied that he was 100% too high and I maintain that HE is 100% high. > On Sep 11, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Aaron Shirley wrote: > How many more zeroes have to fall off the price before someone here is interested? Serious question. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:28 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> Notice the drop from $4.5 mil! >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid= p2060353.m1438.l2649 Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:31:38 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:50:05 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Heck, I think these two should be worth at least $10K if the Wagner is worth ??? LOL But then PT Barnum supposedly said "there is a sucker born every minute." http://www.brockelmanauctions.com/1909_10_German_Baseball_Stamps_Hal_Chase___Jack_Ro-LOT11471.aspx From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Thomas W. Billing Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Mon, Sep 11, 2017 1:41 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! How many more zeroes have to fall off the price before someone here is interested? Serious question. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:28 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Notice the drop from $4.5 mil! http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2= ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 10:57:36 -0400 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 From: Joel Freedman I nominate Tito Jr. for the HOF! On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:27 AM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I am also a diehard Tribe fan but know the history too well. 1954 best AL > record ever and get sept in WS by Giants. 2007 up 3 to 1 to Bosox and lose > the last three. 2016 up 3 to 1 to Cubs and lose the last three. I=E2=99ll > believe it when I see it and hope it finally happens. > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I am certainly a diehard tribe fan and loving all this....but I'm going to > wait to celebrate a little harder after winning the World Series. :) > Jimi > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:02 AM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > They =E2=9Cgot some =E2splainin=E2=99 to do, Lucy!=E2=9D 18 in a ROW??? > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC- > Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* September 10, 2017 8:35 PM > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] 18 > I am not now nor have I ever been, but if I WERE a Cleveland Indians fan, > I might have something to say about now. > I just might... > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:20:02 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: Ken M Since it's a poor example, it's in the 10% BV category, so if he asked $30 it would be a fair price. I still wouldn't be interested, but it would be fair. Too bad the zero key on his computer is sticky. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Sep 11, 2017 1:41 PMTo: Thomas W. Billing;Cc: OBC Ramblings;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! How many more zeroes have to fall off the price before someone here is interested? Serious question.Aaron Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:28 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Notice the drop from $4.5 mil! http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:46:52 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: A few 70's oddball waiver From: JDahms ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:58:00 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: Anson Whaley Realistically, I'd buy it at $50. Some Wagner collectors would pay more, I'm sure, just because it is rare. It is checklisted but I haven't seen another for sale. Would they pay more than a couple hundred? I don't know. But all it takes is one collector to really want it. That's certainly above the actual 'value', per se but if you were a desperate Wagner collector and needed it to fill a hole, I could see someone paying even $200 or $300 if you're only buying Wagner stuff and have some money to burn. That would probably be the Dean's price on it. His estimation is that someone would pay 100x of even that number, which is, of course, nuts. I see he's still offering the OBO, so he's willing to move on it. But he's still probably banking on the fact that someone will drop several thousand on it, which is unreasonable. My guess is that he probably bought it for under $50, realized they're pretty rare, and is trying to cash in. He doesn't care about moving it probably because his investment isn't that great. Just my take. On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:31 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > How many more zeroes have to fall off the price before someone here is > interested? Serious question. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 12:28 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Notice the drop from $4.5 mil! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909- > GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE/122183639933? > ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649 ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:38:13 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Andy Huntoon As would I... Andy Huntoon On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 11:46 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Aye, I the same. > Wes Shepard > On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Steve rangersteve7@optonline.net > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I would like to help Mrs. Montgomery as well. > Steve Sankner > Sent from my iPad > On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I would be in too. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2017, at 00:48, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I also look forward to helping Mrs Montgomery with this collection. > The cards belong in OBC , so as long as we can collaborate, we should make > that happen. > I am willing to put some money where my mouth is to make this an OBC > project to be proud of. > I won't need any of these cards for my collection but that's fine, I would > be happy if the group can use them. > Thank you Anson for your work thus far, it's great to hear! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *Anson Whaley, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *September 10, 2017 at 9:14 PM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? > Cap > Thank you SO much for taking the time to show kindness. I am pretty broke > but hope to buy a "slice" of this collection. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2017, at 9:57 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hello everyone - > I wanted to update the group on the status of Pam Montgomery (wife of > deceased Kent Montgomery, who was an OBC member). Apologies for the length > of this but by now, you know brevity isn't my strong suit. > Pam and I have been in touch over the past few weeks. She has catalogued > her cards as best she could and I finally got to see the collection today. > I was happy to find a GGS card, which utterly confused her. I was able to > explain and clear things up :) > In all, she probably has around 10,000-15,000 cards ranging from the 1950s > -1985. Fewer 1950s and I'd say they are predominantly 1970s-1985. A good > amount of 1960s, though. Most cards are actually in decent shape. I saw > very few beaters and would say the bulk of the cards are G-VG/EX. Some fair > and also a decent amount of EX. Most of the 1950s are lower-end. > She doesn't have the time nor the desire to send out hundreds of packages > of small bundles of cards. Therefore, the best strategy for her (in my > opinion) is to sell these in lots by year. She also has a few dozen cards > that 'book' at about $75 and up (in NM...hers were a little lesser) and I > recommended she try to sell those individually. Best card I saw was a > really clean Rod Carew Rookie card (probably EX or EX-MT). Nothing > extraordinary but some nice cards. A few 1960s Mantles but with some > condition issues. > Based on the approach I've recommended to her, she wants to sell the > collection as follows: > - *Lots of cards* (i.e. 1968 Topps lot of 250 cards, 1971 Topps lot of > 200 cards, etc.) - these will be grouped by year and hopefully priced to > move. These lots are largely commons but generally have some stars > included. We will try to identify key cards in the lot and condition as > best we can so you can have a good idea of what is available. Essentially, > plan on lots with some stars mixed in - some of the stars w/book up to$30 > and $40 in a few cases. > - *Complete sets* - she has a few of these (1976, 1978, 1981, I > believe .. some others that are close) that are either complete or missing > perhaps only a few commons. We went through and identified if key cards > were present or missing (for example, she had a complete 1980 Topps set > missing the Henderson rookie - this type of stuff will be noted when her > list is ready) > - *Individual card sales* - I wanted to keep these to a minimum. > Basically, any card booking at over $50 or $60 will be listed individually. > Condition will be noted and I expect there will be about 25 or so of these > cards. > We will do our best to price these to move. These cards are not my forte > but I have a decent idea of what they sell for on eBay, etc. We want to > offer them at prices below that but also not give them away because the > money could be helpful to her. Anything unsold will probably be lowered and > then up on eBay if not sold to our group. OBC will have first crack at them > and again, the goal is to get them cheaper than eBay. > I hope this provides an ample update. We spent about three hours > cataloging cards today and, while it was a little more than I anticipated > doing since I had a busy week, am glad that I was able to help her. She was > extremely grateful. The next step is that she is going to type up the notes > from today and then we will get a list of what is available out to OBC. Her > sons have Paypal so the likely path will probably be to email her if > interested, she will confirm the sale, buyer will pay via PPFF, and she > will mail out. > If anyone has any questions about the general process or sale, please let > me know. *At this time, please don't ask me about specific cards in sets, > etc. *We discussed that information and I gave her some card numbers of > key cards, etc., while I was there, but I don't have any of that > information on me right now. Happy to answer other questions, though. > Thanks! > 'Cap' Anson > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I hope this will be the right forum for this message. >> Richard D >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* groucho1001 >> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM >> *To:* richard dingman >> *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >> Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I >> have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I >> recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks >> for offering. Pam >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: richard dingman >> Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Pam Montgomery >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >> Hi Pam, >> I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he >> joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. >> Sorry for your loss. >> I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which >> many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have lovedto >> be there. >> I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission >> I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is >> anyone who could help. >> Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not >> generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly >> cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common >> to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will >> never sell. >> So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a >> sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them >> up. >> Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. >> But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. >> Best, >> Richard D >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Pam Montgomery >> *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM >> *To:* richard dingman >> *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to >> Hi Richard: >> I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late >> husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved >> collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him >> countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his >> "healthy" life and knew his cards. >> Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the >> "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell themat >> a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or >> anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could >> trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking >> advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organizedby >> year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I >> did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I >> realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time >> and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. >> I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before >> because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to >> give them away because they are valuable. >> I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more >> detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each >> box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other >> OBC member who may be able to help. >> Thanks for your time >> Pam Montgomery >> groucho1001@comcast.net ================= To: Andy Huntoon Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:37:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: jeff sinclair ================= Date: 11 Sep 2017 23:05:26 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 18 From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:09:15 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Price Drop! From: Wayne Delia I'm strongly reminded of a Bob and Ray commercial for the IBM Proprinter in the early 1990's, which was a typical skit for those guys: Bob: "I'm selling dot-matrix computer printers." Ray: "Do they have all the features of the IBM ProPrinter?" Bob: "Not really, no." Ray: "Do they print pages as fast as the IBM ProPrinter?" Bob: "Nope." Ray: "How much are you selling your printers for?" Bob: "Four million dollars." Ray: "I'm afraid at that price, you're not going to sell many printers." Bob: "Well, if I sell one, I can retire." ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:37:42 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! From: "Thomas W. Billing" Good example, Wayne. If you can remember Bob and Ray, you are not a springchicken. They were great. My interaction with this guy was that I had offered a fair price bid and helanded on me. I agreed to talk over the phone and he rambled on for over 20 minutes about why this error card should cost a fortune since there wereno others out there. I had countered that I have a lot of these already and paid commons prices for most. Not impressed. I also argued that the law of supply vs. demand should control pricing and I was the only guy dumb enough to want this care with ink smears on it. I eventually found out who is is and that he has a mom and pop operation with a lady with the same disposition. I commented that it looks like he tries to get someone not up onthe values to pay a huge price and he replied =E2=9Cwhat=E2=99s wrong with that?=E2=9D. Wow and I am glad that 99.9% of eBay sellers are great to work with. Tom Billing > On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm strongly reminded of a Bob and Ray commercial for the IBM Proprinter in the early 1990's, which was a typical skit for those guys: > Bob: "I'm selling dot-matrix computer printers." > Ray: "Do they have all the features of the IBM ProPrinter?" > Bob: "Not really, no." > Ray: "Do they print pages as fast as the IBM ProPrinter?" > Bob: "Nope." > Ray: "How much are you selling your printers for?" > Bob: "Four million dollars." > Ray: "I'm afraid at that price, you're not going to sell many printers." > Bob: "Well, if I sell one, I can retire." > Best, > WMD ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:19:29 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! From: Ken M The price continues to drop! He took 10% off and it can be yours for only $27k now. I like how he says "you'll want to get this slabbed". Yeah, like you couldn't pony up the 20 bucks or so yourself on a very expensive card. So I'm supposed to give you five figures for a card that isn't authenticated? Maybe I can trade you this deed to a bridge for it instead? It's one of a kind also... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 10:37 AMTo: Wayne Delia;Cc: OBC Ramblings;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! Good example, Wayne.  If you can remember Bob and Ray, you are not a spring chicken.  They were great. My interaction with this guy was that I had offered a fair price bid and he landed on me.  I agreed to talk over the phone and he rambled on for over 20 minutes about why this error card should cost a fortune since there were no others out there.  I had countered that I have a lot of these already and paid commons prices for most.  Not impressed.  I also argued that the law of supply vs. demand should control pricing and I was the only guy dumb enough to want this care with ink smears on it.  I eventually found out who is is and that he has a mom and pop operation with a lady with the same disposition.  I commented that it looks like he tries to get someone not up on the values to pay a huge price and he replied “what’s wrong with that?”.  Wow and I am glad that 99.9% of eBay sellers are great to work with. Tom Billing On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I'm strongly reminded of a Bob and Ray commercial for the IBM Proprinter in the early 1990's, which was a typical skit for those guys: Bob: "I'm selling dot-matrix computer printers." Ray: "Do they have all the features of the IBM ProPrinter?"Bob: "Not really, no." Ray: "Do they print pages as fast as the IBM ProPrinter?"  Bob: "Nope." Ray: "How much are you selling your printers for?" Bob: "Four million dollars."Ray: "I'm afraid at that price, you're not going to sell many printers."Bob: "Well, if I sell one, I can retire."  ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:35:30 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! From: Ken M Yes, it's a stamp. Force of habit. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Joel Freedman Date: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 11:31 AMTo: Ken M;Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! card? hmmmmm, i thought it was a stamp. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   The price continues to drop! He took 10% off and it can be yours for only $27k now. I like how he says "you'll want to get this slabbed". Yeah, like you couldn't pony up the 20 bucks or so yourself on a very expensive card. So I'm supposed to give you five figures for a card that isn't authenticated? Maybe I can trade you this deed to a bridge for it instead? It's one of a kind also... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 10:37 AMTo: Wayne Delia;Cc: OBC Ramblings;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! Good example, Wayne.  If you can remember Bob and Ray, you are not a spring chicken.  They were great. My interaction with this guy was that I had offered a fair price bid and he landed on me.  I agreed to talk over the phone and he rambled on for over 20 minutes about why this error card should cost a fortune since there were no others out there.  I had countered that I have a lot of these already and paid commons prices for most.  Not impressed.  I also argued that the law of supply vs. demand should control pricing and I was the only guy dumb enough to want this care with ink smears on it.  I eventually found out who is is and that he has a mom and pop operation with a lady with the same disposition.  I commented that it looks like he tries to get someone not up on the values to pay a huge price and he replied “what’s wrong with that?”.  Wow and I am glad that 99.9% of eBay sellers are great to work with. Tom Billing On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I'm strongly reminded of a Bob and Ray commercial for the IBM Proprinter in the early 1990's, which was a typical skit for those guys: Bob: "I'm selling dot-matrix computer printers." Ray: "Do they have all the features of the IBM ProPrinter?"Bob: "Not really, no." Ray: "Do they print pages as fast as the IBM ProPrinter?"  Bob: "Nope." Ray: "How much are you selling your printers for?" Bob: "Four million dollars."Ray: "I'm afraid at that price, you're not going to sell many printers."Bob: "Well, if I sell one, I can retire."  Posted by: Ken M Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (10) ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:37:17 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Price Drop! From: "Thomas W. Billing" Is the bridge in Brooklyn? > On Sep 12, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > The price continues to drop! He took 10% off and it can be yours for only$27k now. I like how he says "you'll want to get this slabbed". Yeah, likeyou couldn't pony up the 20 bucks or so yourself on a very expensive card.So I'm supposed to give you five figures for a card that isn't authenticated? Maybe I can trade you this deed to a bridge for it instead? It's one ofa kind also... > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: 'Thomas W. Billing'twbilling@sbcglobal.net > Date: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 10:37 AM > To: Wayne Delia; > Cc: OBC Ramblings; > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! > Good example, Wayne. If you can remember Bob and Ray, you are not a spring chicken. They were great. > My interaction with this guy was that I had offered a fair price bid and he landed on me. I agreed to talk over the phone and he rambled on for over 20 minutes about why t! his error card should cost a fortune since there were no others out there. I had countered that I have a lot of these already and paid commons prices for most. Not impressed. I also argued that the law of supply vs. demand should control pricing and I was the only guy dumb enough to want this care with ink smears on it. I eventually found out who is is and that he has a mom and pop operation with a lady with the samedisposition. I commented that it looks like he tries to get someone not up on the values to pay a huge price and he replied =E2=9Cwhat=E2=99s wrong with that?=E2=9D. Wow and I am glad that 99.9% of eBay sellers are great to work with. > Tom Billing >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> I'm strongly reminded of a Bob and Ray commercial for the IBM Proprinterin the early 1990's, which was a typical skit for those guys: >> Bob: "I'm selling dot-matrix computer printers." >> Ray: "Do they have all the features of the IBM ProPrinter?" >> Bob: "Not really, no." >> Ray: "Do they print pages as fast as the IBM ProPrinter?" >> Bob: "Nope." >> Ray: "How much are you selling your printers for?" >> Bob: "Four million dollars." >> Ray: "I'm afraid at that price, you're not going to sell many printers." >> Bob: "Well, if I sell one, I can retire." >> Best, >> WMD ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:31:20 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! From: Joel Freedman card? hmmmmm, i thought it was a stamp. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > The price continues to drop! He took 10% off and it can be yours for only > $27k now. I like how he says "you'll want to get this slabbed". Yeah, like > you couldn't pony up the 20 bucks or so yourself on a very expensive card. > So I'm supposed to give you five figures for a card that isn't > authenticated? Maybe I can trade you this deed to a bridge for it instead? > It's one of a kind also... > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > *From: *'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net > <+twbilling@sbcglobal.net> [OBC-Ramblings] > *Date: *Tue, Sep 12, 2017 10:37 AM > *To: *Wayne Delia; > *Cc: *OBC Ramblings; > *Subject:*Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! > Good example, Wayne. If you can remember Bob and Ray, you are not a > spring chicken. They were great. > My interaction with this guy was that I had offered a fair price bid and > he landed on me. I agreed to talk over the phone and he rambled on for > over 20 minutes about why this error card should cost a fortune since there > were no others out there. I had countered that I have a lot of these > already and paid commons prices for most. Not impressed. I also argued > that the law of supply vs. demand should control pricing and I was the only > guy dumb enough to want this care with ink smears on it. I eventually > found out who is is and that he has a mom and pop operation with a lady > with the same disposition. I commented that it looks like he tries to get > someone not up on the values to pay a huge price and he replied =E2=9Cwhat=E2=99s > wrong with that?=E2=9D. Wow and I am glad that 99.9% of eBay sellers are > to work with. > Tom Billing > On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:09 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm strongly reminded of a Bob and Ray commercial for the IBM Proprinter > in the early 1990's, which was a typical skit for those guys: > Bob: "I'm selling dot-matrix computer printers." > Ray: "Do they have all the features of the IBM ProPrinter?" > Bob: "Not really, no." > Ray: "Do they print pages as fast as the IBM ProPrinter?" > Bob: "Nope." > Ray: "How much are you selling your printers for?" > Bob: "Four million dollars." > Ray: "I'm afraid at that price, you're not going to sell many printers." > Bob: "Well, if I sell one, I can retire." > Best, > WMD ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 12:06:34 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! From: Nate Mack I just submitted a $30 bid for the stamp. Added in the comments, "this books for $300 in mint condition. Let's get real here!" Fingers crossed!! Ha! Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:05:19 -0400 To: Nate Mack Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Price Drop! From: Anson Whaley I'll be completely shocked if he doesn't ask you to call him. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I just submitted a $30 bid for the stamp. Added in the comments, "this > books for $300 in mint condition. Let's get real here!" > Fingers crossed!! Ha! > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPhone > . ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:38:16 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: What a baseball card this would be! From: Joel Freedman ELLSBURY MAKES HISTORY: When Rickey Henderson broke the all-time record for career stolen bases, he pulled second base from the dirt and held the trophy over his head, an iconic image of an all-time great=E2=99s career. Unfortunately, because it would be considered unsporting to rip an opposing catcher=E2=99s mitt from his hand and hold it aloft, there was no corollary of celebration conjured when Jacoby Ellsbury made his own form of history on Monday, reaching base via catcher=E2=99s interference for the 30th time his career. Nonetheless, Adrian Garro of MLB.com took a moment to appreciate Ellsbury=E2=99s achievement. ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:53:53 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What a baseball card this would be! From: Ken M Occasionally on my Facebook newsfeed, I'll get an ad hawking the latest "Topps Now" card. It's usually a card depicting some event that just happened in MLB, limited edition, blah blah blah... I wonder if they made one for Ellsbury? Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 2:47 PMTo: OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] What a baseball card this would be! ELLSBURY MAKES HISTORY: When Rickey Henderson broke the all-time record for career stolen bases, he pulled second base from the dirt and held the trophy over his head, an iconic image of an all-time great’s career. Unfortunately, because it would be considered unsporting to rip an opposing catcher’s mitt from his hand and hold it aloft, there was no corollary form of celebration conjured when Jacoby Ellsbury made his own form of history on Monday, reaching base via catcher’s interference for the 30th time in his career. Nonetheless, Adrian Garro of MLB.com took a moment to appreciate Ellsbury’s achievement. ================= Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 22:07:59 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Roll Tribe....20 straight! From: Jimi Thayer Roll Tribe!!! :) Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 12:20:56 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Redpath sugar packet spotted on eBay From: Matthew Glidden Attn type collectors: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/322733544837 Don't see Redpath sugar on eBay often, starts at $9.99. ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 10:23:17 -0400 To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roll Tribe....20 straight! From: "Thomas W. Billing" Awesome and I can=E2=99t believe it yet. Let=E2=99s hope they don=E2=99t follow the Dodges=E2=99 lead and lose 11 in a row now. Terry Francona is now the top coach/manager in Ohio after last Saturday night. Tom Billing > On Sep 12, 2017, at 10:07 PM, Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Roll Tribe!!! :) > Jimi > Sent from my iPhone > . ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:20:46 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: Joel Freedman ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:48:06 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: Jimi Thayer One thing can be said, is that no one is really playing above their expected abilities. My dad mentioned this on Facebook and he's got a good point, in regards to people saying "peak too soon". It's not like Gomes has 50 homers and batting .325. Tomlin doesn't have a 1.55 ERA or anything. The crazy part is that there has been no Kipnis, Brantley, or Miller through thisstreak. Only one thing left to do though... ;) Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:49:33 -0500 To: jefreedman1@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: T J VALACAK Content-Disposition: inline I was able to watch a bit of the game today. Very exciting for you Tribe fans. Just wanted to touch on the "peak too soon" phrase that I have been hearinga lot. So, the people who are saying "peak to soon", I'm guessing would beok if Indians won only 8 out of 10 during this stretch? Or would be ok if they didn't put together a win streak of more than a handful of games? Maybe if they played at a .600 winning percentage, that would be ok? I think the "peak to soon" is garbage. Give me a break. The Indians are playing fantastic baseball during the heat of the playoff push. Wouldnt you rather have your team playing like the Indians now as opposed to how the Dodgers have been playing? I think it helps that the Tribe have something to play for - home field throughout. The winning streak has pushed them ahead ofthe astros for that spot. If the Indians can win it all, all peak too sooners will be quieted, but if they fall short, we will hear about it often. Just a few thoughts as I wait for my eight year old to finish her tap danceclass! TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: jefreedman1@gmail.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-09-13 2:50:13 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat One thing can be said, is that no one is really playing above their expected abilities. My dad mentioned this on Facebook and he's got a good point, in regards to people saying "peak too soon". It's not like Gomes has 50 homers and batting .325. Tomlin doesn't have a 1.55 ERA or anything. The crazy part is that there has been no Kipnis, Brantley, or Miller through this streak. Only one thing left to do though... ;) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com (mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 19:08:47 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: Ken M TJ,  I think the "peak too soon" stuff has yet to be seen. In fact, I hope they win forty in a row - then get swept by the Red Sox on their way to a twenty game win streak in October :-D Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Sep 13, 2017 5:49 PMTo: jefreedman1@gmail.com;Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat   One thing can be said, is that no one is really playing above their expected abilities.  My dad mentioned this on Facebook and he's got a good point, in regards to people saying "peak too soon".  It's not like Gomes has 50 homers and batting .325.  Tomlin doesn't have a 1.55 ERA or anything.  The crazy part is that there has been no Kipnis, Brantley, or Miller through this streak.  Only one thing left to do though... ;) Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 02:10:25 +0200 (CEST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Ken M , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 I like that set up Ken !!!!!! T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 14, 2017 at 1:08 AM "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > TJ, > I think the "peak too soon" stuff has yet to be seen. In fact, I hope they win forty in a row - then get swept by the Red Sox on their way to a twenty game win streak in October :-D > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Wed, Sep 13, 2017 5:49 PM > To: jefreedman1@gmail.com mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com ; > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject:Re: [OBC- Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat > One thing can be said, is that no one is really playing above their expected abilities. My dad mentioned this on Facebook and he's got a good point, in regards to people saying "peak too soon". It's not like Gomes has50 homers and batting .325. Tomlin doesn't have a 1.55 ERA or anything. The crazy part is that there has been no Kipnis, Brantley, or Miller through this streak. Only one thing left to do though... ;) > Jimi > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: 14 Sep 2017 01:21:07 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 04:40:28 +0200 (CEST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 I don't buy in to the peak too soon. What the Dodgers did is called playingGREAT baseball for an extended period of time. Now theyre slumping. And ifthey get hot again, watch out. I know a lot of people are saying and will say that they peaked to soon. I am just someone who doesn't belong to that school of thought. The baseball season is full of peaks and valleys. And it always comes down to who wins the last 11 (or 12 with the wild card). Most playoff teams experience a series of peaks and valleys thorugh the course of the season. Maybe the 2006 Cardinals didn't have any regular season peaks. That's the only team that comes to mind right away. But, the 2006 Cardinals (I believe 83 wins in the regular season), have something a lot more important than any peak, valley or streak - they have the ring from that year. > On September 14, 2017 at 3:21 AM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Did the Dodgers peak too soon? ================= Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2017 21:26:55 -0600 To: T J VALACAK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: Mike Rumley-Wells I was trying to get your goat with that. One of the things I love most about baseball is that it is a game of endurance and consistency, testing who can persevere over the long haul. I dislike the one-game Wild Card playoff, which is the antithesis of a 162-game season. I tend to believe that teams can peak early and no longer be playing at their best at the crucial moment, though my direct experience is with high school basketball. On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:40 PM, T J VALACAK wrote: > I don't buy in to the peak too soon. What the Dodgers did is called > playing GREAT baseball for an extended period of time. Now theyre slumping. > And if they get hot again, watch out. I know a lot of people are saying and > will say that they peaked to soon. I am just someone who doesn't belong to > that school of thought. > The baseball season is full of peaks and valleys. And it always comes down > to who wins the last 11 (or 12 with the wild card). Most playoff teams > experience a series of peaks and valleys thorugh the course of the season. > Maybe the 2006 Cardinals didn't have any regular season peaks. That's the > only team that comes to mind right away. But, the 2006 Cardinals (I believe > 83 wins in the regular season), have something a lot more important than > any peak, valley or streak - they have the ring from that year. > On September 14, 2017 at 3:21 AM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Did the Dodgers peak too soon? ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 05:36:39 +0200 (CEST) To: Mike Rumley-Wells Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 I just look at it as "they played better baseball earlier in the season" instead of peaking. I feel when a team has played some great ball, like the Dodgers, that it's in their DNA for that season. They just need to find it And I agree with you on the one game wild card. I don't like it. Really puts an emphasis on winning the division. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 14, 2017 at 5:26 AM Mike Rumley-Wells wrote: > I was trying to get your goat with that. One of the things I love most about baseball is that it is a game of endurance and consistency, testing who can persevere over the long haul. I dislike the one-game Wild Card playoff, which is the antithesis of a 162-game season. > I tend to believe that teams can peak early and no longer be playing at their best at the crucial moment, though my direct experience is with high school basketball. > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:40 PM, T J VALACAK wrote: > > > I don't buy in to the peak too soon. What the Dodgersdid is called playing GREAT baseball for an extended period of time. Now theyre slumping. And if they get hot again, watch out. I know a lot of people are saying and will say that they peaked to soon. I am just someone who doesn't belong to that school of thought. > > > > The baseball season is full of peaks and valleys. And it alwayscomes down to who wins the last 11 (or 12 with the wild card). Most playoff teams experience a series of peaks and valleys thorugh the course of the season. Maybe the 2006 Cardinals didn't have any regular season peaks. That's the only team that comes to mind right away. But, the 2006 Cardinals (I believe 83 wins in the regular season), have something a lot more importantthan any peak, valley or streak - they have the ring from that year. > > > > > > > > > On September 14, 2017 at 3:21 AM "mikerw7@gmail.com mailto:mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Did the Dodgers peak too soon? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: 14 Sep 2017 04:18:30 +0000 To: Subject: OBC News from N54 From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: Mike Rumley-Wells , T J VALACAK Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:59:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: Taylor Schock >>> And I agree with you on the one game wild card. I don't like it. Really puts an emphasis on winning the division. >>> I dislike the one-game Wild Card playoff, which is the antithesis of a 162-game So then wouldn't the thesis of the 162-game season be WINNING the division?If so, I'm not sure how a 1 game playoff between 2 non-division winning teams changes that. You want to be in the playoffs? Win the division. Unless I misunderstood and the sentiment is that '2nd place' teams have no business in the playoffs, regardless of how many games makeup that playoff (which is pretty much my sentiment). From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:36 PM To: Mike Rumley-Wells Cc: OBC Ramblings; mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat I just look at it as "they played better baseball earlier in the season" instead of peaking. I feel when a team has played some great ball, like the Dodgers, that it's in their DNA for that season. They just need to find it And I agree with you on the one game wild card. I don't like it. Really puts an emphasis on winning the division. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm On September 14, 2017 at 5:26 AM Mike Rumley-Wells wrote: I was trying to get your goat with that. One of the things I love most about baseball is that it is a game of endurance and consistency, testing who can persevere over the long haul. I dislike the one-game Wild Card playoff, which is the antithesis of a 162-game season. I tend to believe that teams can peak early and no longer be playing at their best at the crucial moment, though my direct experience is with high school On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:40 PM, T J VALACAK > I don't buy in to the peak too soon. What the Dodgers did is called playingGREAT baseball for an extended period of time. Now theyre slumping. And ifthey get hot again, watch out. I know a lot of people are saying and will say that they peaked to soon. I am just someone who doesn't belong to that school of thought. The baseball season is full of peaks and valleys. And it always comes down to who wins the last 11 (or 12 with the wild card). Most playoff teams experience a series of peaks and valleys thorugh the course of the season. Maybe the 2006 Cardinals didn't have any regular season peaks. That's the only team that comes to mind right away. But, the 2006 Cardinals (I believe 83 wins in the regular season), have something a lot more important than any peak, valley or streak - they have the ring from that year. On September 14, 2017 at 3:21 AM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Did the Dodgers peak too soon? ================= To: "james_moleta@hotmail.com" Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:42:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:46:46 -0500 To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com, mikerw7@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat From: T J VALACAK Content-Disposition: inline Considering the amount of teams in baseball, I am fine with the wild card. But I think the one game playoff is rough. I have many bones to pick with baseball. I am happy as .can be that the all-star game no longer determines. Home field for world series. I would love to see both leagues play be the same set of rules. Makes senseto me that they would, but obviously doesn't make sense to the gents running TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com To: mikerw7@gmail.com,tvalacak@comcast.net Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-09-14 8:59:55 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat >>> And I agree with you on the one game wild card. I don't like it. Reallyputs an emphasis on winning the division. >>> I dislike the one-game Wild Card playoff, which is the antithesis of a 162-game So then wouldn't the thesis of the 162-game season be WINNING the division?If so, I'm not sure how a 1 game playoff between 2 non-division winning teams changes that. You want to be in the playoffs? Win the division. Unless I misunderstood and the sentiment is that '2nd place' teams have no business in the playoffs, regardless of how many games makeup that playoff (which is pretty much my sentiment). From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:36 PM To: Mike Rumley-Wells Cc: OBC Ramblings; mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ok Jimi, you can gloat I just look at it as "they played better baseball earlier in the season" instead of peaking. I feel when a team has played some great ball, like the Dodgers, that it's in their DNA for that season. They just need to find it again. And I agree with you on the one game wild card. I don't like it. Really puts an emphasis on winning the division. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 14, 2017 at 5:26 AM Mike Rumley-Wells wrote: > I was trying to get your goat with that. One of the things I love most about baseball is that it is a game of endurance and consistency, testing whocan persevere over the long haul. I dislike the one-game Wild Card playoff, which is the antithesis of a 162-game season. > I tend to believe that teams can peak early and no longer be playing at their best at the crucial moment, though my direct experience is with high school > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:40 PM, T J VALACAK > > I don't buy in to the peak too soon. What the Dodgers did is called playing GREAT baseball for an extended period of time. Now theyre slumping. And if they get hot again, watch out. I know a lot of people are saying and will say that they peaked to soon. I am just someone who doesn't belong to that school of thought. > > > > The baseball season is full of peaks and valleys. And it always comes down to who wins the last 11 (or 12 with the wild card). Most playoff teams experience a series of peaks and valleys thorugh the course of the season. Maybe the 2006 Cardinals didn't have any regular season peaks. That's the only team that comes to mind right away. But, the 2006 Cardinals (I believe 83 wins in the regular season), have something a lot more important than any peak, valley or streak - they have the ring from that year. > > > > > On September 14, 2017 at 3:21 AM "mikerw7@gmail.com (mailto:mikerw7@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" > > > > > > > > > Did the Dodgers peak too soon? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= To: , Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 07:34:41 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 From: "Grant Rainsley" A Stan Hack hit would be most appropriate in this case=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: September 13, 2017 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 Anybody else see what happened to one of our boys yesterday? http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t244841 Power of persistence and positivity pays off prodigiously! Good for you, Ed, and hope you win that pending bid! This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= To: "'Aaron Shirley'" , Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:45:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 From: "Bob Donaldson" Ed Hutchinson wrote Down to 2- Mantle and Santo (with a bid placed on a Santo) anyone have a beater Mantle from this set for sale? Dave W responded I have a pretty nice #500 Mantle that some dumb 12 year old kid pinned to his bulletin board back in 1969. If you don't mind 2 pinholes, I will give it to you for free. - Dave From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:42 AM To: james_moleta@hotmail.com Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 "uthminsta, you do not have permission to access this page." What was the post about? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2017, at 11:18 PM, james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Anybody else see what happened to one of our boys yesterday? http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t244841 Power of persistence and positivity pays off prodigiously! Good for you, Ed, and hope you win that pending bid! ================= Date: 14 Sep 2017 16:29:43 +0000 To: Subject: Vintage websites? From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:24:15 -0400 To: obc ramblings , Nate Mack Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vintage websites? From: Anson Whaley I would love suggestions on this, too. Some I've bought from are below but keep in mind, that's from a pre-war standpoint only. Can't speak to their prices for other vintage stuff. I wouldn't consider any of these absolutely must-haves. Gotten some good deals but a lot has been above what you'd pay on eBay. Dave and Levi, in particular, are pretty high. - Battersbox (http://www.the-battersbox.net/) - Mike Wheat Cards (http://www.mikewheatcards.com) - Kit Young (www.kityoung.com/) - Ed Hans (http://t206.monkberry.com/) - Scottsdale (http://scottsdalecards.com/) - Red Zone (http://redzonesportscards.com/) - Open Binders (http://www.openbinders.com/) - Dave's (www.gfg.com) - Levi/707 (https://www.707sportscards.com/) In addition to eBay and occasionally COMC, I'm also high on the Net54 board/auctions when I see stuff I'm looking for. Those are my top three faves when it comes to buying, by far. On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:29 PM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I was looking around recently on the web for card sites similar to Dean's > cards, but not Dean's cards, if you catch my drift. I found only one or > two, one of which was ComC. Are there any other websites that you frequent > when looking for cards? I had ordered from California Sports Cards before > and was happy with my purchase. But it was hit and miss with their > pricing. Anyway, just wondered if there were any other sites that anyone > liked to support. > Thanks, > Nate Mack ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 16:26:31 -0400 To: nmack03@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vintage websites? From: Mike Glasser For non sports www.openbinders.com Mike Glasser The Goddard School 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD. 21152 > On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:29 PM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I was looking around recently on the web for card sites similar to Dean'scards, but not Dean's cards, if you catch my drift. I found only one or two, one of which was ComC. Are there any other websites that you frequent when looking for cards? I had ordered from California Sports Cards before and was happy with my purchase. But it was hit and miss with their pricing. Anyway, just wondered if there were any other sites that anyone liked tosupport. > Thanks, > Nate Mack ================= Date: 14 Sep 2017 22:15:46 +0000 To: Subject: 1979 and 1980 Topps waiver From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 20:43:15 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Philly Show 9/22-9/24 From: Ken M I am on vacation in a week. Plans are in the works for me to stop by the show (probably all three days). Anyone else going? I'll meet you at the casino... all right, in the basement at the casino. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:29:29 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show 9/22-9/24 From: Matt Yudt I'll be there! My friend Joce Kaligis is not doing the show but i am working on getting a dealer pass - at least for early Friday. I have a $2 off daily coupon - not sure what it will get you off for all 3 days. My wife will be in Rochester NY, not that it would matter, but you and anyone else is welcome to crash at my place instead of a hotel! I'm about 20 min NW of the show. We have pets, and kids, but they're pretty low maintenance now. (Both) Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos > On Sep 14, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I am on vacation in a week. Plans are in the works for me to stop by the show (probably all three days). Anyone else going? I'll meet you at the casino... all right, in the basement at the casino. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:15:07 -0400 To: grains@shaw.ca, james_moleta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net I agree with the Stan Hack hit-- So we need some help Ed--you need to let us know who Dave is and supply us with his address. Then we should send him a few OBC Stan Hacks. peter mead -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: james_moleta ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 10:49 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 A Stan Hack hit would be most appropriate in this case=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: September 13, 2017 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 Anybody else see what happened to one of our boys yesterday? http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t244841 Power of persistence and positivity pays off prodigiously! Good for you, Ed, and hope you win that pending bid! Virus-free. www.avg.com=09=09 ================= To: "grains@shaw.ca" , "james_moleta@hotmail.com" Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:55:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 From: JAY TYSVER See if you can get a wantlist also. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:15 AM To: grains@shaw.ca; james_moleta@hotmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 I agree with the Stan Hack hit-- So we need some help Ed--you need to let us know who Dave is and supply us with his address. Then we should send him a few OBC Stan Hacks. peter mead -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: james_moleta ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 10:49 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 A Stan Hack hit would be most appropriate in this case=85=85=85. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Of james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: September 13, 2017 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 Anybody else see what happened to one of our boys yesterday? http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t244841 Power of persistence and positivity pays off prodigiously! Good for you, Ed, and hope you win that pending bid! [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png] Virus-free. www.avg.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 From: Joel Freedman See if he wants to join OBC............... On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 10:55 AM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > See if you can get a wantlist also. > Jay Tysver > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Friday, September 15, 2017 9:15 AM > *To:* grains@shaw.ca; james_moleta@hotmail.com; > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 > I agree with the Stan Hack hit-- > So we need some help Ed--you need to let us know who Dave is and supply us > with his address. Then we should send him a few OBC Stan Hacks. > peter mead > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: james_moleta ; OBC-Ramblings < > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 10:49 am > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 > A Stan Hack hit would be most appropriate in this case=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@ > yahoogroups.com ] *On Behalf Of * > james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* September 13, 2017 9:19 PM > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] OBC News from N54 > Anybody else see what happened to one of our boys yesterday? > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t244841 > Power of persistence and positivity pays off prodigiously! Good for you, > Ed, and hope you win that pending bid! > James > > www.avg.com > > <#m_-2302080147960140676_aolmail_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ================= Date: 16 Sep 2017 18:14:06 +0000 To: Subject: Book Waivers From: mike.galbreath@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 16:38:03 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Obc website issues From: Anthony Hell all I happen to update my pages and it does not show up. But when I go back into editing them the changes are there. Odd. Also when I refresh it goes backto obc home page. Seems there is a cliched? Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 17:15:24 -0400 Subject: never hurts to ask From: "Bob Donaldson" Went to a yard sale this morning. Asked the guy running it (he was in his mid 50s) if he had any baseball cards. "I think I do he says". Heads in the house for a few minutes and comes back with a stack of pages. I'm thinking 1992 Upper Deck, but as I get closer I see they are 1972 and 1973. Cards are in ex/mt shape, probably more like NM (not sure I don't play in these grades). He says both full sets should be there. I verify the Schmidt and some 72 high numbers. He then pulls out a shoebox with 66 and 67 cards. Including a 67 (ex+) Mantle. I pull up ebay and show him what a 73 mid grade set has sold for. Tell him I can't pay top dollar, but I'll do $430 for the lot. I ended up with this 1973 BB complete set ex/mt 1972 BB missing 18, none higher than 542. Again ex/mt, although about 30 low number commons have some tape residue on the back. No cards above 307 and no stars have tape residue 1967 BB 239 cards including Mantle vg/ex to ex 1966 BB 261 cards vg/ex to ex 1966 FB 66 cards vg/ex 1966 Philly FB 104 cards vg/ex 1972 Topps FB 20 cards I don't think there are any high numbers, but plenty of stars and rookies. Busy day :) ================= Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:11:45 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: New football sets From: JDahms ================= To: Bob Donaldson Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 00:00:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] never hurts to ask From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:45:39 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] never hurts to ask From: ShoelessWes Basically you got a schmidt and mantle for 20 cents apiece? Wes Shepard > On Sep 16, 2017, at 8:00 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Wow, Bob. That is more than I've ever spent at a yard sale. Actually, that may be more than I've spent at all the yard sales I've been to in my whole life, added together! > But dude, you got a MANTLE at a yard sale! Congrats! > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2017, at 4:15 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Went to a yard sale this morning. Asked the guy running it (he was in his mid 50s) if he had any baseball cards. =E2=9CI think I do he says=E2=9D. Heads in the house for a few minutes and comes back with a stack of pages. I=E2=99m thinking 1992 Upper Deck, but as I get closer I see they are 1972 and 1973. Cards are in ex/mt shape, probably more like NM (not sure I don=E2=99t play in these grades). He says both full sets should be there. I verify the Schmidt and some 72 high numbers. He then pulls out a shoebox with 66 and 67 cards. Including a 67 (ex+) Mantle. I pull up ebay and show him what a 73 mid grade set has sold for. Tell him I can=E2=99t pay top dollar, but I=E2=99ll do $430 for the lot. I ended up with this >> 1973 BB complete set ex/mt >> 1972 BB missing 18, none higher than 542. Again ex/mt, although about 30 low number commons have some tape residue on the back. No cards above 307 and no stars have tape residue >> 1967 BB 239 cards including Mantle vg/ex to ex >> 1966 BB 261 cards vg/ex to ex >> 1966 FB 66 cards vg/ex >> 1966 Philly FB 104 cards vg/ex >> 1972 Topps FB 20 cards >> I don=E2=99t think there are any high numbers, but plenty of stars and >> Busy day J >> Bob ================= To: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 22:01:33 -0400 Subject: Selling advice From: "Bob Donaldson" Follow-up to my previous post of my yardsale fine. I need to recoup my money from my find and will likely sell the complete 1973 and partially complete 1972 set. As mentioned earlier both sets are in very nice condition. I've attached some representative scans of key cards. The 1973 set is all in ex/mt condition. The 72 sets has about 30 cards with some tape marks mostly on the back as demonstrated by the attached Wise. My quick questions are - Are any of these cards worth grading? Were I to sell the 1973 full set or 1972 near set, would you do Ebay or an auction house? I'm leaning towards showing them to Kevin Savage (or another auction house) at the Boston Shriner's show. Any thoughts or opinions are welcome. ================= To: Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 22:57:45 -0400 Subject: Knocked out my first goal of the year... From: "Sal Domino" And a top 10 hit! Some of you remember I was looking at a 52 Campanella at the National, along with another high number. My offer of $475 for both was more than fair, based on the condition of the cards and that they were raw. Well.. He who hesitates is lost and I picked up the Campy (Graded 1- creases) for a LOT less than the $400 I was willing to go on the one at the National. So I have knocked off one of the 2 biggest hits to my goals this year (the other is 52 Jackie with the stitching left). Haven't had much time for cards with my company's expansion, but it's always a warm feeling when you hit one of your biggies! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 04:10:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: familytoad@comcast.net about...

I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Toppsrun. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable.

I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going toadd 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end uptrying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to completethat is on my list.

I still have a desire to accumulate more cards,so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will evercomplete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't.

This past year Ihave added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey. Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and manyof the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd needa ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish.

The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it.

Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in themix...it's not likely I will find or finish these either (at least the 52's).

So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed??

What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reasonor another?

I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB setsthough...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!!

Thoughts?

OBC Forever,
Brian

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 00:17:07 -0400 Subject: waiver: 1980 TCMA All Time Tigers 12 card set From: "Matt Yudt" Picked this and another 1980 tcma set up in the 'bonus' box at the card shop for spending money. Forgot I already had the tiger set - would anyone like ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:10:45 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Something we can agree on! There are numerous sets we start, especially with the slogan, one is a type card and 2 you are collecting the set. That said, there are certain sets, few people start with the expectation of finishing. Amazingly, some do eventually get finished. Before OBC, I had no intentions of collecting 1952 Topps high numbers. In 2000, a month after joining OBC, Brett Domue gave me my first 52 high number. In 2016, Mac Wubbencompleted the set for me. Similarly, even with all the different sets I have started or have type cards of, occasionally I read about Mac or Andy, etc., completing a prewar set, that I do not even have a type card of. There are other cards that are the last card many of us need to complete our sets, and remain on a number of guys lists. The leading candidates for those I bet would be 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68 and 1954 Bowman #66 Ted Williams. For those of us crazy enough to get the 4 Ruth's and 2 Gehrig's in the 1933 Goudey set, there is the Lajoie card that remains. Another for meis the 1960 Armour Coin Bud Daley (the die cracked early in the printing process and they stopped making it). The oft debated 1960 Fleer #80 PepperMartin, is it part of the set??? As a group, I think we are down to just 1962 Post Canadian BB #7 Berra (Peter Mead needs that and 2 others, that I have 1 and someone else (Rick Johnson?) has 1). I have 25 cards on my 1 and done list, including those 5 above. I also have some very inexpensive, but very obscure items, such as a 1959 Washington Senators team issued photo of Reno Bertoia (at least that is whom I think is the missing one). Some are almost always sold as part of a complete set,such as TCMA cards. I need 1974 TCMA St. Louis Browns 22 Kress and 1977 TCMA The War Years #79 Suder. Try finding a 1975-76 Graat Plains Greats Checklist card by itself! One that is surprisingly still on my list, that I have needed for years is 1973 Fleer Big Signs Cincinnati Reds. I should be able to find that one. A couple others that should eventually show up are 1976 Star Market Boston Red Sox Photos Fisk and 1976 Playboy Press Who Was Harry Steinfeldt - Billy Loes. Many others are just expensive sets or superstar cards that as Guru would say, "If you get off your wallet, you can complete it". Last month I picked up 11 of the last 12 1940 Playball I need for my base Playball run. Surprisingly, I have the Shoeless Joe, and am down to the 1940 Christy Mathewson. Another is the 1951 Topps Team Card Red Sox. I will then need to decide to go after both the dated and non-dated versions. So yes, start sets that you do not expect to finish. You may at some pointsurprise yourself and complete it. At this year's National I found a dealer who had only 1 LA Dodger team issued postcard. It just happened to be the 1969 Walt Alston that I needed to complete the set. Most sets will never get as close as just needing 1. Just keep nibbling away and years later you may get there. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Sep 17, 2017 12:10 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up forthe 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2ndlargest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely Iwill find or finish these either (at least the 52's). So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ andGriese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 07:30:54 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] never hurts to ask From: mikesportsfan@aol.com You might maximize the return by replacing the cards with tape and seeing if you can complete the 1972 set. Let us know what you need and see whatwe can do. You may be able to have a running tally on Aaron's September Seventies list. Just put the EX-MT notation on them. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Sep 16, 2017 5:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] never hurts to ask Went to a yard sale this morning. Asked the guy running it (he was in his mid 50s) if he had any baseball cards. =E2=9CI think I do he says=E2=9D. Heads in the house for a few minutes and comes back with a stack of pages. I=E2=99m thinking 1992 Upper Deck, but as I get closer I see theyare 1972 and 1973. Cards are in ex/mt shape, probably more like NM (not sure I don=E2=99t play in these grades). He says both full sets should be there. I verify the Schmidt and some 72 high numbers. He then pulls outa shoebox with 66 and 67 cards. Including a 67 (ex+) Mantle. I pull up ebay and show him what a 73 mid grade set has sold for. Tell him I can=E2=99t pay top dollar, but I=E2=99ll do $430 for the lot. I ended up with 1973 BB complete set ex/mt 19 72 BB missing 18, none higher than 542. Again ex/mt, although about 30 low number commons have some tape residue on the back. No cards above 307 and no stars have tape residue 1967 BB 239 cards including Mantle vg/ex to ex 1966 BB 261 cards vg/ex to ex 1966 FB 66 cards vg/ex 1966 Philly FB 104 cards vg/ex 1972 Topps FB 20 cards I don=E2=99t think there are any high numbers, but plenty of stars and rookies. Busy day J ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:07:04 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en Hey Brian For me, I just like collecting baseball cards. I do not think I will ever complete too many more. I say maybe set a goal. I like the 1951 Bowman set. I will never finish it. So, I set a goal of having a hundred of them. When I get there I will shoot for half the set and so on. Or pick a player. (no offense to Jim Kiick, that is a very cool thing you do, but maybe pick another player one and get all there cards from every year and every set). Finishing sets is amazing, but there is so many other ways to just keep collecting baseball cards. Just my little thought, Randy Welk In a message dated 9/16/2017 9:10:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely I will find or finish these either (at least the 52's). So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:36:27 -0700 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: Rick Few things seem to come into play for me. My interest hasn't changed from akid in the 70's I wanted to collect one of every card. Didn't know at thattime how many there were though. It has been my main interest/hobby my whole life where other may have multiple hobby or interests so it can at timestake a back seat. Obviously budget dictates collecting interest and what you collect. I have always thought I would spend my whole life trying to collect every vintage card in existents knowing I would never achieve it. I have found myself at that collecting crossroad due to the same things that plague all of us eventually. With some health issues not life threateningthat I know of and probably never going back to work my card budget is what I'm willing to take out of my savings so it will be gone soon. I don't ever want to stop collecting cards even if I never purchase anothercard if that makes since. So back to the topic I'm faced with using my have lists to finish my want lists so I guess that means putting me in the category of working on sets that are doable. I always thought start them all even the obscure because you never know what you might fall into or see in the future. maybe that obscure set is the one you see at the show/eBay/garage sale. So I'll have to use the dupes I have left to hit sets then I'll be at that bail on the obscure sets to help other sets. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Sep 17, 2017, at 10:06 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I agree that you've got some obscure and rare cards on your list. > Finishing off some of them would seem to be pretty unlikely, but it appears that you don't mind collecting most of the set. > Anyone in the camp of hesitating to add a set that seems like an impossible > Interested in all opinions on the topic! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: mikesportsfan@aol.com > To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: September 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete > Something we can agree on! There are numerous sets we start, especially with the slogan, one is a type card and 2 you are collecting the set. Thatsaid, there are certain sets, few people start with the expectation of finishing. Amazingly, some do eventually get finished. Before OBC, I had no intentions of collecting 1952 Topps high numbers. In 2000, a month after joining OBC, Brett Domue gave me my first 52 high number. In 2016, Mac Wubben completed the set for me. > Similarly, even with all the different sets I have started or have typecards of, occasionally I read about Mac or > Andy, etc., completing a prewar set, that I do not even have a type card of. > There are other cards that are the last card many of us need to complete our sets, and remain on a number of guys lists. The leading candidates forthose I bet would be 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68 and 1954 Bowman #66 Ted Williams. For those of us crazy enough to get the 4 Ruth's and 2 Gehrig's in the 1933 Goudey set, there is the Lajoie card that remains. Another for me is the 1960 Armour Coin Bud Daley (the die cracked early in the printing process and they stopped making it). The oft debated 1960 Fleer #80 Pepper Martin, is it part of the set??? As a group, I think we are down to just 1962 Post Canadian BB #7 Berra (Peter Mead needs that and 2 others, that I have 1 and someone else (Rick Johnson?) has 1). > I have 25 cards on my 1 and done list, including those 5 above. I also have some very inexpensive, but very obscure items, such as a 1959 Washington Senators team issued photo of Reno Bertoia (at least that is whom I thinkis the missing one). Some are almost always sold as part of a complete set, such as TCMA cards. I need 1974 TCMA St. Louis Browns 22 Kress and 1977TCMA The War Years #79 Suder. Try finding a 1975-76 Graat Plains Greats Checklist card by itself! One that is surprisingly still on my list, that Ihave needed for years is 1973 Fleer Big Signs Cincinnati Reds. I should be able to find that one. A couple others that should eventually show up are 1976 Star Market Boston Red Sox Photos Fisk and 1976 Playboy Press Who Was Harry Steinfeldt - Billy Loes. > Many others are just expensive sets or superstar cards that as Guru wouldsay, "If you get off your wallet, you can complete it". Last month I picked up 11 of the last 12 1940 Playball I need for my base Playball run. Surprisingly, I have the Shoeless Joe, and am down to the 1940 Christy Mathewson. Another is the 1951 Topps Team Card Red Sox. I will then need to decide to go after both the dated and non-dated versions. > So yes, start sets that you do not expect to finish. You may at some point surprise yourself and complete it. At this year's National I found a dealer who had only 1 LA Dodger team issued postcard. It just happened to bethe 1969 Walt Alston that I needed to complete the set. > Most sets will never get as close as just needing 1. Just keep nibbling away and years later you may get there. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: obc-ramblings > Sent: Sun, Sep 17, 2017 12:10 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... > So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... > I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. > I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. > I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. > This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three moresets that I doubt I will ever finish. > The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. > Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likelyI will find or finish these either (at least the 52's). > So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete setsthat I start...I guess I have changed?? > What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? > I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! > Thoughts? > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:58:08 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: Anson Whaley For me, it depends on the set. I'm getting closer to finishing T207 and while I know the last 30+ cards are tougher, I know I can eventually get there so I definitely want to finish that. I'm also doing E90-1 American Caramel and know I'll probably never get there. Even beyond the Jackson there are a lot of tough cards. But I'm willing to keep working on it because I just really like the set. I avoid a lot of sets that I don't think I can complete but also don't mind working on some if I really enjoy them. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 1:06 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I agree that you've got some obscure and rare cards on your list. > Finishing off some of them would seem to be pretty unlikely, but it > appears that you don't mind collecting most of the set. > Anyone in the camp of hesitating to add a set that seems like an > impossible finish? > Interested in all opinions on the topic! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *mikesportsfan@aol.com > *To: *familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *September 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to > complete them.... > Something we can agree on! There are numerous sets we start, especially > with the slogan, one is a type card and 2 you are collecting the set. That > said, there are certain sets, few people start with the expectation of > finishing. Amazingly, some do eventually get finished. Before OBC, I had > no intentions of collecting 1952 Topps high numbers. In 2000, a month > after joining OBC, Brett Domue gave me my first 52 high number. In 2016, > Mac Wubben completed the set for me. > Similarly, even with all the different sets I have started or have type > cards of, occasionally I read about Mac or > Andy, etc., completing a prewar set, that I do not even have a type card > of. > There are other cards that are the last card many of us need to complete > our sets, and remain on a number of guys lists. The leading candidates for > those I bet would be 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68 and 1954 Bowman #66 Ted > Williams. For those of us crazy enough to get the 4 Ruth's and 2 Gehrig's > in the 1933 Goudey set, there is the Lajoie card that remains. Another for > me is the 1960 Armour Coin Bud Daley (the die cracked early in the > printing process and they stopped making it). The oft debated 1960 Fleer > #80 Pepper Martin, is it part of the set??? As a group, I think we are > down to just 1962 Post Canadian BB #7 Berra (Peter Mead needs that and 2 > others, that I have 1 and someone else (Rick Johnson?) has 1). > I have 25 cards on my 1 and done list, including those 5 above. I also > have some very inexpensive, but very obscure items, such as a 1959 > Washington Senators team issued photo of Reno Bertoia (at least that is > whom I think is the missing one). Some are almost always sold as part ofa > complete set, such as TCMA cards. I need 1974 TCMA St. Louis Browns 22 > Kress and 1977 TCMA The War Years #79 Suder. Try finding a 1975-76 Graat > Plains Greats Checklist card by itself! One that is surprisingly still on > my list, that I have needed for years is 1973 Fleer Big Signs Cincinnati > Reds. I should be able to find that one. A couple others that should > eventually show up are 1976 Star Market Boston Red Sox Photos Fisk and 1976 > Playboy Press Who Was Harry Steinfeldt - Billy Loes. > Many others are just expensive sets or superstar cards that as Guru would > say, "If you get off your wallet, you can complete it". Last month I > picked up 11 of the last 12 1940 Playball I need for my base Playball run. > Surprisingly, I have the Shoeless Joe, and am down to the 1940 Christy > Mathewson. Another is the 1951 Topps Team Card Red Sox. I will then need > to decide to go after both the dated and non-dated versions. > So yes, start sets that you do not expect to finish. You may at some > point surprise yourself and complete it. At this year's National I founda > dealer who had only 1 LA Dodger team issued postcard. It just happened to > be the 1969 Walt Alston that I needed to complete the set. > Most sets will never get as close as just needing 1. Just keep nibbling > away and years later you may get there. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] yahoogroups.com> > To: obc-ramblings > Sent: Sun, Sep 17, 2017 12:10 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete > them.... > So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... > I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 > without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I > just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. > I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to > add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up > trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up > for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete > that is on my list. > I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 > and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but > strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never > finish...it's most likely I won't. > This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called > starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 > Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth > cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am > just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started > three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. > The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has > never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd > largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. > Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies > cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not > likely I will find or finish these either (at least the 52's). > So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It > doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete > sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? > What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of > reach for one reason or another? > I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ > and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in > case you thought I really changed LOL!! > Thoughts? > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: "'Anson Whaley'" , Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:28:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: "Bob Donaldson" My favorite set, and one I completed about 18 years ago is the 1933 Goudey.Of course I am missing Lajoie and will never add him. But that hasn=E2=99t stopped me from enjoying the set. I am also working on the E121 set, which I started because cards a pretty cheap and are photograph. However, there realy isn=E2=99t a definitive checklist, especially if including variations and at least one card only has 1 or 2 known copies. Again I am not letting that stop me from enjoying the set. I=E2=99ve been debating giving up on the Kashin set as there are 4 SP that are ridiculously over priced. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:58 PM To: familytoad@comcast.net Cc: obc ramblings ; mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete For me, it depends on the set. I'm getting closer to finishing T207 and while I know the last 30+ cards are tougher, I know I can eventually get thereso I definitely want to finish that. I'm also doing E90-1 American Carameland know I'll probably never get there. Even beyond the Jackson there are a lot of tough cards. But I'm willing to keep working on it because I just really like the set. I avoid a lot of sets that I don't think I can complete but also don't mindworking on some if I really enjoy them. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 1:06 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: I agree that you've got some obscure and rare cards on your list. Finishing off some of them would seem to be pretty unlikely, but it appearsthat you don't mind collecting most of the set. Anyone in the camp of hesitating to add a set that seems like an impossiblefinish? Interested in all opinions on the topic! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: mikesportsfan@aol.com To: familytoad@comcast.net , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: September 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete Something we can agree on! There are numerous sets we start, especially with the slogan, one is a type card and 2 you are collecting the set. That said, there are certain sets, few people start with the expectation of finishing. Amazingly, some do eventually get finished. Before OBC, I had no intentions of collecting 1952 Topps high numbers. In 2000, a month after joining OBC, Brett Domue gave me my first 52 high number. In 2016, Mac Wubbencompleted the set for me. Similarly, even with all the different sets I have started or have type cards of, occasionally I read about Mac or Andy, etc., completing a prewar set, that I do not even have a type card of. There are other cards that are the last card many of us need to complete our sets, and remain on a number of guys lists. The leading candidates for those I bet would be 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68 and 1954 Bowman #66 Ted Williams. For those of us crazy enough to get the 4 Ruth's and 2 Gehrig's in the 1933 Goudey set, there is the Lajoie card that remains. Another for meis the 1960 Armour Coin Bud Daley (the die cracked early in the printing process and they stopped making it). The oft debated 1960 Fleer #80 PepperMartin, is it part of the set??? As a group, I think we are down to just 1962 Post Canadian BB #7 Berra (Peter Mead needs that and 2 others, that I have 1 and someone else (Rick Johnson?) has 1). I have 25 cards on my 1 and done list, including those 5 above. I also have some very inexpensive, but very obscure items, such as a 1959 Washington Senators team issued photo of Reno Bertoia (at least that is whom I think is the missing one). Some are almost always sold as part of a complete set,such as TCMA cards. I need 1974 TCMA St. Louis Browns 22 Kress and 1977 TCMA The War Years #79 Suder. Try finding a 1975-76 Graat Plains Greats Checklist card by itself! One that is surprisingly still on my list, that I have needed for years is 1973 Fleer Big Signs Cincinnati Reds. I should be able to find that one. A couple others that should eventually show up are 1976 Star Market Boston Red Sox Photos Fisk and 1976 Playboy Press Who Was Harry Steinfeldt - Billy Loes. Many others are just expensive sets or superstar cards that as Guru would say, "If you get off your wallet, you can complete it". Last month I picked up 11 of the last 12 1940 Playball I need for my base Playball run. Surprisingly, I have the Shoeless Joe, and am down to the 1940 Christy Mathewson. Another is the 1951 Topps Team Card Red Sox. I will then need to decide to go after both the dated and non-dated versions. So yes, start sets that you do not expect to finish. You may at some pointsurprise yourself and complete it. At this year's National I found a dealer who had only 1 LA Dodger team issued postcard. It just happened to be the 1969 Walt Alston that I needed to complete the set. Most sets will never get as close as just needing 1. Just keep nibbling away and years later you may get there. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Sep 17, 2017 12:10 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up forthe 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2ndlargest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely Iwill find or finish these either (at least the 52's). So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ andGriese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: 17 Sep 2017 22:14:29 +0000 To: Subject: 63 Fleer Checklist available From: miglasser@aol.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 02:01:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 22:25:36 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: Ken M    For the most part, I've only started sets that I have a realistic shot at completing. I've also only started sets in the post war era. (The T205's are my token prewar set.) There are a couple sets that I refuse to collect because of that one card I'll never get (T206 Honus Wagner, '33 Goudey Lajoie). If I had to start now, I don't think I'd even collect the 1952 Topps set. The Mantle is just way too overpriced.  Of course, my line of thinking may change at some point. I may be coming to a crossroad in my collecting journey soon. I'm gettin close to finishing off my Hostess/Twinkies sets. (Found a 1975 Mayberry SP on eBay this week to fill the last empty spot in that binder. There is a Hooten variation to find though.) What will I add next? Anything? Nothing looks very appealing to me right now. I may comb through the SCD at some point and pick out something I haven't started, but odds are it'll be an obscure or unpopular set that I'll basically be on my own chasing. Who knows what starter set I'll stumble upon at the next show however... I do want to reach that 50k plateau someday. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sun, Sep 17, 2017 3:37 PMTo: 'Anson Whaley';familytoad@comcast.net;Cc: 'obc ramblings';mikesportsfan@aol.com;Subject:RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... My favorite set, and one I completed about 18 years ago is the 1933 Goudey.  Of course I am missing Lajoie and will never add him.  But that hasn’t stopped me from enjoying the set.  I am also working on the E121 set, which I started because cards a pretty cheap and are photograph.  However, there realy isn’t a definitive checklist, especially if including variations and at least one card only has 1 or 2 known copies.  Again I am not letting that stop me from enjoying the set. I’ve been debating giving up on the Kashin set as there are 4 SP that are ridiculously over priced. Bob From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 1:58 PM To: familytoad@comcast.net Cc: obc ramblings >; mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them....   For me, it depends on the set. I'm getting closer to finishing T207 and while I know the last 30+ cards are tougher, I know I can eventually get there so I definitely want to finish that. I'm also doing E90-1 American Caramel and know I'll probably never get there. Even beyond the Jackson there are a lot of tough cards. But I'm willing to keep working on it because I just really like the set. I avoid a lot of sets that I don't think I can complete but also don't mind working on some if I really enjoy them.Cap On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 1:06 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  I agree that you've got some obscure and rare cards on your list. Finishing off some of them would seem to be pretty unlikely, but it appears that you don't mind collecting most of the set. Anyone in the camp of hesitating to add a set that seems like an impossible finish? Interested in all opinions on the topic! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: mikesportsfan@aol.com To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: September 17, 2017 at 4:10 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them....Something we can agree on!  There are numerous sets we start, especially with the slogan, one is a type card and 2 you are collecting the set.  That said, there are certain sets, few people start with the expectation of finishing.  Amazingly, some do eventually get finished.  Before OBC, I had no intentions of collecting 1952 Topps high numbers.  In 2000, a month after joining OBC, Brett Domue gave me my first 52 high number.  In 2016, Mac Wubben completed the set for me.  Similarly, even with all the different sets I have started or have type cards of, occasionally I read about Mac orAndy, etc., completing a prewar set, that I do not even have a type card of.  There are other cards that are the last card many of us need to complete our sets, and remain on a number of guys lists.  The leading candidates for those I bet would be 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #68 and 1954 Bowman #66 Ted Will iams.  For those of us crazy enough to get the 4 Ruth's and 2 Gehrig's in the 1933 Goudey set, there is the Lajoie card that remains.  Another for me is the 1960 Armour Coin Bud Daley  (the die cracked early in the printing process and they stopped making it).  The oft debated 1960 Fleer #80 Pepper Martin, is it part of the set???  As a group, I think we are down to just 1962 Post Canadian BB #7 Berra (Peter Mead needs that and 2 others, that I have 1 and someone else (Rick Johnson?) has 1).I have 25 cards on my 1 and done list, including those 5 above.  I also have some very inexpensive, but very obscure items, such as a 1959 Washington Senators team issued photo of Reno Bertoia (at least that is whom I think is the missing one).  Some are almost always sold as part of a complete set, such as TCMA cards.  I need 1974 TCMA St. Louis Browns 22 Kress and 1977 TCMA The War Years #79 Suder.  Try finding a 1975-76 Graat Plains Greats Checklist card by itself!  One that is surprisingly still on my list, that I have needed for years is 1973 Fleer Big Signs Cincinnati Reds.  I should be able to find that one.  A couple others that should eventually show up are 1976 Star Market Boston Red Sox Photos Fisk and 1976 Playboy Press Who Was Harry Steinfeldt - Billy Loes.Many others are just expensive sets or superstar cards that as Guru would say, "If you get off your wallet, you can complete it".   Last month I picked up 11 of the last 12 1940 Playball I need for my base Playball run.  Surprisingly, I have the Shoeless Joe, and am down to the 1940 Christy Mathewson.  Another is the 1951 Topps Team Card Red Sox.  I will then need to decide to go after both the dated and non-dated versions.So yes, start sets that you do not expect to finish.  You may at some point surprise yourself and complete it.  At this year's National I found a dealer who had only 1 LA Dodger team issued postcard.  It just happened to be the 1969 Walt Alston that I need ed to complete the set.  Most sets will never get as close as just needing 1.  Just keep nibbling away and years later you may get there.  Mike Rich-----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Sep 17, 2017 12:10 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them....  So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely I will find or finish these either (at least the 52's). So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App  ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 02:47:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 05:10:29 +0200 (CEST) To: rjsfgmv@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 I know I have some sets on my wantlist that I will never complete. 1933 Goudey is one. I can remember about ten years ago, thinking I might be able to get a Ruth. No way now. But that doesn't deter me from going after therest of the set. I love those 33 Goudeys. There are a few other sets on my wantlist that I don't think I will ever complete. 1952 Topps, 1951 Bowman. It doenst really bother me that the chances of completing those sets isslim. I just enjoy collecting them. And, you never know............ you just never know. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 17, 2017 at 7:07 PM "rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Hey Brian > For me, I just like collecting baseball cards. I do not think I will ever complete too many more. > I say maybe set a goal. I like the 1951 Bowman set. I will never finish it. So, I set a goal of having a hundred of them. When I get there I will shoot for half the set and so on. Or pick a player. (no offense to Jim Kiick, that is a very cool thing you do, but maybe pick another player one and get all there cards from every year and every set). > Finishing sets is amazing, but there is so many other ways to just keep collecting baseball cards. > Just my little thought, > Randy Welk > In a message dated 9/16/2017 9:10:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > ?space?-- So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up forthe 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2ndlargest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely Iwill find or finish these either (at least the 52's). So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ andGriese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: 18 Sep 2017 04:45:58 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: , Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:40:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: "Matt Yudt" Yes, fun hearing reading the replies to this one. I was sitting here thinking of what to reply =E2=93 clearly my collection is in the =E2set -expansion=E2=99 mode and has been big time forthe past couple years. Before that it was the Topps run and a few other easy sets to get started on (not thinking about the hard ones to complete them, e.g. post cereal, hostess etc). Now I am in the early stages of the Mike/Rick school =E2=93 collect everything. I have not focused on completing sets, more than starting new ones, or just amassing more vintage cards at least. I do have an unwritten goal of completing one topps-run set every year (which I=E2=99ve been doing since I started collecting again - circa 2005 or or 06). Funny thing =E2=93 as I was thinking all of this, Ilooked at my short lists and noticed only two left for the ugly embossed set and went to COMC and made offers on the last two!. So much for completing sets not a focus=E2=A6 Put me in the just like collecting cards camp, but completing sets sure is a lot of fun too! How=E2=99s that for ambiguity? Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:46 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete Great discussion, Family Toad. Really interesting to me, different guys' takes on this. I've really kept no secret of how much I love the early Bowman sets. I finished the 54 B set, with much help from y'all, except the 66 Williams, and I hold out hope that I could land it someday. This being a guy who hasn't finished 72 Topps and just got 73 Topps killed off with generosity from Ken. I like finishing sets. I have hope of finishing all the sets I'm collecting, because I'm an optimist. How many of you saw Terry's post about landinga 52 Mantle Tipton Gem Mint 10 for 10 bucks? That sort of thing gives me hope. I'm not in a hurry and I'm fine chipping away, but I really do want to finish them. So I start sets intending to finish them, but that doesn't mean it will happen. Realistically, unless my circumstances change significantly, I'm not going to obtain all those 52T high numbers. But will I be able to completethe early Bowman run? Those early Mantles are ridiculous. Nonetheless, that's where I will put my effort and limited dollars. I didn't realize it at the time, but I've probably started some sets that I'm not going to finish, though after I write this I will not admit it to myself again. From where I sit now, I have no intention of starting other sets, because I've already bitten off more than, realistically, I can chew. But having said that, Mike Rich just gave me a massive 70's starter set spread of football cards (blessings on your pointy head, Mike!) and now I'm collecting football cards. For me it's simply prioritizing. And I'm right there with TJ: you never know.........you just never know. I love that about collecting. ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com , > wrote : I know I have some sets on my wantlist that I will never complete. 1933 Goudey is one. I can remember about ten years ago, thinking I might be able to get a Ruth. No way now. But that doesn't deter me from going after therest of the set. I love those 33 Goudeys. There are a few other sets on my wantlist that I don't think I will ever complete. 1952 Topps, 1951 Bowman. It doenst really bother me that the chances of completing those sets isslim. I just enjoy collecting them. And, you never know............ you just never know. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm On September 17, 2017 at 7:07 PM "rjsfgmv@... [OBC-Ramblings] " > wrote: Hey Brian For me, I just like collecting baseball cards. I do not think I will ever complete too many more. I say maybe set a goal. I like the 1951 Bowman set. I will never finish it.So, I set a goal of having a hundred of them. When I get there I will shoot for half the set and so on. Or pick a player. (no offense to Jim Kiick, that is a very cool thing you do, but maybe pick another player one and getall there cards from every year and every set). Finishing sets is amazing, but there is so many other ways to just keep collecting baseball cards. Just my little thought, Randy Welk In a message dated 9/16/2017 9:10:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up forthe 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2ndlargest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely Iwill find or finish these either (at least the 52's). So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ andGriese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:51:18 -0400 To: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: David Luciano I=92m with you Matt, I have sets I am definitely going to finish especially the ones where I watched them play, and when I get pre war cards, I look them up and learn more about them, it is great history. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 18, 2017, at 11:40 AM, 'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Yes, fun hearing reading the replies to this one. > I was sitting here thinking of what to reply =96 clearly my collection isin the =91set -expansion=92 mode and has been big time for the past coupleyears. Before that it was the Topps run and a few other easy sets to get started on (not thinking about the hard ones to complete them, e.g. post cereal, hostess etc). Now I am in the early stages of the Mike/Rick school =96 collect everything. I have not focused on completing sets, more than starting new ones, or just amassing more vintage cards at least. I do have an unwritten goal of completing one topps-run set every year (which I=92ve been doing since I started collecting again - circa 2005 or or 06). Funny thing =96 as I was thinking all of this, I looked at my short lists and noticed only two left for the ugly embossed set and went to COMC and made offers on the last two!. So much for completing sets not a focus=85 Put me in the just like collecting cards camp, but completing sets sure is a lot offun > How=92s that for ambiguity? > Cheers, > Matt Yudt > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:46 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete > Great discussion, Family Toad. Really interesting to me, different guys'takes on this. > I've really kept no secret of how much I love the early Bowman sets. I finished the 54 B set, with much help from y'all, except the 66 Williams, and I hold out hope that I could land it someday. This being a guy who hasn't finished 72 Topps and just got 73 Topps killed off with generosity from Ken. > I like finishing sets. I have hope of finishing all the sets I'm collecting, because I'm an optimist. How many of you saw Terry's post about landing a 52 Mantle Tipton Gem Mint 10 for 10 bucks? That sort of thing gives me hope. I'm not in a hurry and I'm fine chipping away, but I really do want to finish them. > So I start sets intending to finish them, but that doesn't mean it will happen. Realistically, unless my circumstances change significantly, I'm not going to obtain all those 52T high numbers. But will I be able to complete the early Bowman run? Those early Mantles are ridiculous. Nonetheless,that's where I will put my effort and limited dollars. > I didn't realize it at the time, but I've probably started some sets thatI'm not going to finish, though after I write this I will not admit it to myself again. From where I sit now, I have no intention of starting other sets, because I've already bitten off more than, realistically, I can chew.But having said that, Mike Rich just gave me a massive 70's starter set spread of football cards (blessings on your pointy head, Mike!) and now I'm collecting football cards. For me it's simply prioritizing. And I'm rightthere with TJ: you never know.........you just never know. > I love that about collecting. > ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > I know I have some sets on my wantlist that I will never complete. 1933 Goudey is one. I can remember about ten years ago, thinking I might be able to get a Ruth. No way now. But that doesn't deter me from going after the rest of the set. I love those 33 Goudeys. There are a few other sets on my wantlist that I don't think I will ever complete. 1952 Topps, 1951 Bowman. It doenst really bother me that the chances of completing those sets is slim. I just enjoy collecting them. And, you never know............ you just never know. > T.J. Valacak > OBC member since August 2005 > http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 17, 2017 at 7:07 PM "rjsfgmv@... [OBC-Ramblings]" > Hey Brian > For me, I just like collecting baseball cards. I do not think I will evercomplete too many more. > I say maybe set a goal. I like the 1951 Bowman set. I will never finish it. So, I set a goal of having a hundred of them. When I get there I will shoot for half the set and so on. Or pick a player. (no offense to Jim Kiick,that is a very cool thing you do, but maybe pick another player one and get all there cards from every year and every set). > Finishing sets is amazing, but there is so many other ways to just keep collecting baseball cards. > Just my little thought, > Randy Welk > In a message dated 9/16/2017 9:10:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... > I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. > I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete that is on my list. > I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. > This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three moresets that I doubt I will ever finish. > The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. > Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likelyI will find or finish these either (at least the 52's). > So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete setsthat I start...I guess I have changed?? > What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? > I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! > Thoughts? > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:18:47 +0200 (CEST) To: Matt Yudt , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 For myself, I love getting those 33 or 34 Goudeys and reading the bios on the back. Like you Dave, I will usually look them up on teh net, often times ending up at a wikipedia page. I really enjoy learning about these players. The same holds true with the players in the t206 set. It's just really cool to learn about these players. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 18, 2017 at 5:51 PM "David Luciano daveluciano@me.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I=E2=99m with you Matt, > I have sets I am definitely going to finish especially the ones whereI watched them play, and when I get pre war cards, I look them up and learn more about them, it is great history. > Thanks! > Dave Luciano > 12815 Kingsway Dr, > Chesterland, Ohio > 44026 > 216 406 5940 > daveluciano@me.com mailto:daveluciano@me.com > On Sep 18, 2017, at 11:40 AM, 'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com mailto:mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, fun hearing reading the replies to this one. > > > > > > > > I was sitting here thinking of what to reply =E2=93 clearly my collection is in the =E2set -expansion=E2=99 mode and has been big time for the past couple years. Before that it was the Topps run and afew other easy sets to get started on (not thinking about the hard ones tocomplete them, e.g. post cereal, hostess etc). Now I am in the early stages of the Mike/Rick school =E2=93 collect everything. I have not focused on completing sets, more than starting new ones, or just amassing more vintage cards at least. I do have an unwritten goal of completing one topps-run set every year (which I=E2=99ve been doing since I started collecting again - circa 2005 or or 06). Funny thing =E2=93 as I was thinking all of this, I looked at my short lists and noticed only two left for the ugly embossed set and went to COMC and made offers on the last two!. So much for completing sets not a focus=E2=A6 Put me in the just like collecting cards camp, but completing sets sure is a lot of fun too! > > > > > > > > How=E2=99s that for ambiguity? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Matt Yudt > > > > > > > > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com mailto:mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:46 AM > > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Great discussion, Family Toad. Really interesting to me, different guys' takes on this. > > > > > > > > I've really kept no secret of how much I love the early Bowman sets. I finished the 54 B set, with much help from y'all, except the 66 Williams, and I hold out hope that I could land it someday. This being a guywho hasn't finished 72 Topps and just got 73 Topps killed off with generosity from Ken. > > > > > > > > I like finishing sets. I have hope of finishing all the sets I'm collecting, because I'm an optimist. How many of you saw Terry's post about landing a 52 Mantle Tipton Gem Mint 10 for 10 bucks? That sort of thing gives me hope. I'm not in a hurry and I'm fine chipping away, but I really do want to finish them. > > > > > > > > So I start sets intending to finish them, but that doesn't meanit will happen. Realistically, unless my circumstances change significantly, I'm not going to obtain all those 52T high numbers. But will I be ableto complete the early Bowman run? Those early Mantles are ridiculous. Nonetheless, that's where I will put my effort and limited dollars. > > > > > > > > I didn't realize it at the time, but I've probably started somesets that I'm not going to finish, though after I write this I will not admit it to myself again. From where I sit now, I have no intention of starting other sets, because I've already bitten off more than, realistically, Ican chew. But having said that, Mike Rich just gave me a massive 70's starter set spread of football cards (blessings on your pointy head, Mike!) and now I'm collecting football cards. For me it's simply prioritizing. AndI'm right there with TJ: you never know.........you just never know. > > > > I love that about collecting. > > > > > > > > ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com , wrote : > > > > I know I have some sets on my wantlist that I will never complete. 1933 Goudey is one. I can remember about ten years ago, thinking I might be able to get a Ruth. No way now. But that doesn't deter me from going after the rest of the set. I love those 33 Goudeys. There are a few other sets on my wantlist that I don't think I will ever complete. 1952 Topps, 1951 Bowman. It doenst really bother me that the chances of completing those sets is slim. I just enjoy collecting them. And, you never know............ you just never know. > > > > > > > > T.J. Valacak > > OBC member since August 2005 > > http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On September 17, 2017 at 7:07PM "rjsfgmv@... [OBC-Ramblings] mailto:rjsfgmv@...%20[OBC-Ramblings] " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me, I just like collecting baseball cards. I donot think I will ever complete too many more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I say maybe set a goal. I like the 1951 Bowman set.I will never finish it. So, I set a goal of having a hundred of them. WhenI get there I will shoot for half the set and so on. Or pick a player. (nooffense to Jim Kiick, that is a very cool thing you do, but maybe pick another player one and get all there cards from every year and every set). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finishing sets is amazing, but there is so many other ways to just keep collecting baseball cards. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my little thought, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Randy Welk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/16/2017 9:10:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 without the 52 high and essentially no variationsexcept 62 greenies) I just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. > > > > > > > > > > I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up trying for about half of that run , but I don'tthink I will ever pony up for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first setI don't expect to complete that is on my list. > > > > > > > > > > I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never finish...it's most likely I won't. > > > > > > > > > > This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets.(and of course, I am just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. > > > > > > > > > > The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. > > > > > > > > > > Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not likely I will find or finish these either (at least the > > > > > > > > > > So the cards that I added are likely to neverend up being complete. It doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? > > > > > > > > > > What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of reach for one reason or another? > > > > > > > > > > I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in case you thought I really changed LOL!! > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > OBC Forever, > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: 18 Sep 2017 20:19:54 +0000 To: Subject: My 69 Topps Mantle and the gentleman who sent it to me From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 18 Sep 2017 20:53:48 +0000 To: Subject: Help, I need somebody From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:38:52 -0700 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My 69 Topps Mantle and the gentleman who sent From: wite3 ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:57:21 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1966-67 Topps or OPC hockey From: chris tripler So, trying to hit some folks lists, I ordered on eBay a lot, but they say printed in Canada. Is there a difference between Topps and OPC (no printed in USA examples on eBay) in this year for the hockey set? Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:20:51 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966-67 Topps or OPC hockey From: Ken M Trip,  The 'Printed in USA' cards with English only backs are a scarce test issue with limited distribution. They are numbered differently and are worth significantly more than their counterparts. I don't know what the reasoning is behind them being listed as Topps, as they say "Printed in Canada" and have French on the backs like most other OPC issues. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Sep 18, 2017 7:57 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1966-67 Topps or OPC hockey ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:56:04 -0400 To: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to complete them.... From: Joel Freedman I am like Matt, set explosion..............yes, i like to complete sets, but only if I come across the cards for a deal.my 51, 54 and 55 Topps are the closest to be completed, but at this time, I would rather have a hundred Vintage cards, than one hit to any of those sets. In my life i have collected numerous ways. 1970- current Topps Set Building (Baseball, Football, Basketball),Topps, Donruss, Fleer HOF collection, Diamond Kings, All Star Rookie Trophies, WS and League Leaders cards, Red Sox accumulation, non sport set building, now filling in 1951 - 1967 Topps Baseball, OMG, so many things to collect! I did complete my 68-69 Topps Hockey set this month :) Had a good time at the flea market yesterday, picked up 100 football vintage cards for a deal...........heading to 50, hope i room for it all! On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:40 AM, 'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Yes, fun hearing reading the replies to this one. > I was sitting here thinking of what to reply =E2=93 clearly my collection is in > the =E2set -expansion=E2=99 mode and has been big time for the past couple years. > Before that it was the Topps run and a few other easy sets to get started > on (not thinking about the hard ones to complete them, e.g. post cereal, > hostess etc). Now I am in the early stages of the Mike/Rick school =E2=93 > collect everything. I have not focused on completing sets, more than > starting new ones, or just amassing more vintage cards at least. I do have > an unwritten goal of completing one topps-run set every year (which I=E2=99ve > been doing since I started collecting again - circa 2005 or or 06). Funny > thing =E2=93 as I was thinking all of this, I looked at my short listsand > noticed only two left for the ugly embossed set and went to COMC and made > offers on the last two!. So much for completing sets not a focus=E2=A6 Put me > in the just like collecting cards camp, but completing sets sure is a lot > of fun too! > How=E2=99s that for ambiguity? > Cheers, > Matt Yudt > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@ > yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Monday, September 18, 2017 12:46 AM > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Starting new sets without expecting to > complete them.... > Great discussion, Family Toad. Really interesting to me, different guys' > takes on this. > I've really kept no secret of how much I love the early Bowman sets. I > finished the 54 B set, with much help from y'all, except the 66 Williams, > and I hold out hope that I could land it someday. This being a guy who > hasn't finished 72 Topps and just got 73 Topps killed off with generosity > from Ken. > I like finishing sets. I have hope of finishing all the sets I'm > collecting, because I'm an optimist. How many of you saw Terry's post > about landing a 52 Mantle Tipton Gem Mint 10 for 10 bucks? That sort of > thing gives me hope. I'm not in a hurry and I'm fine chipping away, but I > really do want to finish them. > So I start sets intending to finish them, but that doesn't mean it will > happen. Realistically, unless my circumstances change *significantly*, > I'm not going to obtain all those 52T high numbers. But will I be able to > complete the early Bowman run? Those early Mantles are ridiculous. > Nonetheless, that's where I will put my effort and limited dollars. > I didn't realize it at the time, but I've probably started some sets that > I'm not going to finish, though after I write this I will not admit it to > myself again. From where I sit now, I have no intention of starting other > sets, because I've already bitten off more than, realistically, I can > chew. But having said that, Mike Rich just gave me a massive 70's starter > set spread of football cards (blessings on your pointy head, Mike!) and now > I'm collecting football cards. For me it's simply prioritizing. And I'm > right there with TJ: you never know.........you just never know. > I *love* that about collecting. > ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > I know I have some sets on my wantlist that I will never complete. 1933 > Goudey is one. I can remember about ten years ago, thinking I might be > able to get a Ruth. No way now. But that doesn't deter me from going > after the rest of the set. I love those 33 Goudeys. There are a few other > sets on my wantlist that I don't think I will ever complete. 1952 Topps, > 1951 Bowman. It doenst really bother me that the chances of completing > those sets is slim. I just enjoy collecting them. And, you never > know............ you just never know. > T.J. Valacak > OBC member since August 2005 > http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 17, 2017 at 7:07 PM "rjsfgmv@... [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hey Brian > For me, I just like collecting baseball cards. I do not think I will ever > complete too many more. > I say maybe set a goal. I like the 1951 Bowman set. I will never finish > it. So, I set a goal of having a hundred of them. When I get there I will > shoot for half the set and so on. Or pick a player. (no offense to Jim > Kiick, that is a very cool thing you do, but maybe pick another player one > and get all there cards from every year and every set). > Finishing sets is amazing, but there is so many other ways to just keep > collecting baseball cards. > Just my little thought, > Randy Welk > In a message dated 9/16/2017 9:10:59 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > So here is a topic that I've been thinking about... > I'm getting close to finishing my version of the Topps run. (1952-1980 > without the 52 high and essentially no variations except 62 greenies) I > just need 20 cards more , a few big ones but achievable. > I have added 1953 Bowman B/W and Color this year , but I am not going to > add 1952, 1954 or 1955 since I just don't care for them...so I will end up > trying for about half of that run , but I don't think I will ever pony up > for the 1951 Bowman Mantle. That's the first set I don't expect to complete > that is on my list. > I still have a desire to accumulate more cards, so I pick away at the 1910 > and 1911 OBAK sets. I don't know if I will ever complete them, but > strangely I don't think I will mind if I just keep gathering and never > finish...it's most likely I won't. > This past year I have added a few piles of cards that could be called > starter sets...1933, 1934 and 1935 Goudey . Although I have one of the 1933 > Gehrig cards and many of the HOFers, I would still need five Babe Ruth > cards and 3 more Gehrig cards to finish those 3 sets. (and of course, I am > just starting so I'd need a ton of other cards overall) . So I started > three more sets that I doubt I will ever finish. > The E-210-2 York caramel cards (type 2) that I started a few years ago has > never been completed by anyone by most hobby accounts. I might have the 2nd > largest accumulation but I don't think I *can* ever finish it. > Today I grabbed about 30 cards from the 1952 and 1953 Mother's Cookies > cards, but with a few SP and Chuck Connors' card in the mix...it's not > likely I will find or finish these either (at least the 52's). > So the cards that I added are likely to never end up being complete. It > doesn't really bother me, despite usually feeling compelled to complete > sets that I start...I guess I have changed?? > What do you guys feel about set collecting for sets that might be out of > reach for one reason or another? > I did buy another dozen stars like Namath, Mean Joe Greene, Butkus , OJ > and Griese for continuing on with more 1971 Topps FB sets though...just in > case you thought I really changed LOL!! > Thoughts? > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: 19 Sep 2017 01:33:33 +0000 To: Subject: Hmm, now what? From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:43:39 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hmm, now what? From: Ken M Ed,  I'd pick one of the 50's Bowman or Topps sets on your list. Either one of those or the smaller 63 Fleer set. Those 70's sets can wait. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Sep 18, 2017 9:33 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Hmm, now what? With my 69 set about to be finished, and with 59 done, I am at the "what's next" stage. I have a bunch of sets that I am working on, but none are close and I am not excited about any of them...so I guess its time to work on the 72 Topps FB high numbers...but those are impossible to find really.  Kind of at a bit of a loss- ever since I have joined OBC a set has always been close enough that it has been the focus, while the other RAOKs came in to keep other sets moving...right now, nothing is close. Any recommendations, ideas, or thoughts? ================= Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:49:34 -0700 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hmm, now what? From: John Stamper Yah Ed I have a bunch of sets that are close to completion. You can work on any ofthem. Keep plugging away and something with catch on and make a run. Pick a set that you like and start getting the big ones out of the way. That'll make iteasier towards the end. John Stamper > On Sep 18, 2017, at 6:33 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > With my 69 set about to be finished, and with 59 done, I am at the "what's next" stage. I have a bunch of sets that I am working on, but none are close and I am not excited about any of them...so I guess its time to work onthe 72 Topps FB high numbers...but those are impossible to find really. > Kind of at a bit of a loss- ever since I have joined OBC a set has alwaysbeen close enough that it has been the focus, while the other RAOKs came in to keep other sets moving...right now, nothing is close. > Any recommendations, ideas, or thoughts? > Ed ================= Date: 19 Sep 2017 01:57:05 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Hmm, now what? From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: John Stamper Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:00:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hmm, now what? From: JAY TYSVER ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:03:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Hmm, now what? From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: 19 Sep 2017 02:08:20 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show 9/22-9/24 From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: 19 Sep 2017 02:20:21 +0000 To: Subject: 1956 Topps Larry Doby From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: 19 Sep 2017 22:28:55 +0000 To: Subject: Best lot yet. 54s and 57s- gotta brag. From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:30:45 -0400 To: JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Best lot yet. 54s and 57s- gotta brag. From: Jake Brewer What a find Jay!! That's awesome man, congrats on the great buy! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2017, at 6:28 PM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Last week I won a lot on eBay of 133 1954 Topps for a bid of $70. The seller had some lots which didn't sell. > A week prior, I won a lot from 1955 from him. Every card in the lot was different and the shapes were on average VgEx despite being advertised as fair-poor. The seller had an eBay rating of (0). > I contacted the seller and he told me he was selling his Dad's collection, but picked a few of the good cards out. > I asked the seller if he would also sell me the 1957 lot he had for sale.There were 361 cards. > I took an educated guess and considered that these may all be different. Like the other lots, these were listed as fair-poor. I offered $300 for both the 1954 lot I won and the 1957 lot which didn't sell. > Well, I got the lots today. The 1957s were 361 separate cards including amarked checklist. The cards on average range from Vgex to exmt. There were24 different HOFers including Berra, Banks, Campy and Kaline, most VGEx orbetter. There was the Kubek, Colavito, Bunning, Maz and other key rookies.Included were 66 different mid series cards, all in nice shape. > There are many upgrades for me and leaves me with seven hits to go. > The 1954s were all different. Some are upgrades, the condition varies butmostly g/vg. There were over 30 hits, and a surprising six HOFers including Mathews, Rizzutto and Spahn. > I couldn't believe as I was going through these and believed they might all be commons. Kept pulling out stars upon stars. > Sorry for the longwindedness. > Jay Tysver ================= Date: 20 Sep 2017 06:49:24 +0000 To: Subject: Original, Reprint, or Scammer? From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:35:58 -0400 To: mikerw7@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Original, Reprint, or Scammer? From: ShoelessWes Wes Shepard > On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:49 AM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't buy very much on ebay (my wife would disagree) and when I do, it's mostly to hit other lists, since that's often the only way I can from here. However, I have found a few recently: a couple from one of our beloved brethren dealers and then I got a couple handfuls of high # 55 B's for cheap about which I was very pleased. Last month, Aaron helped me out on a 78 BK purchase that killed off the Yankees sub-set. > A card that I've been stalking is the 60 Mantle #350 . I think I've beeninspired by recent success stories of Tiptonesque Mantles landed at incredible bargains. So I've kept an eye out. > A couple days ago, I was tracking one in rough but acceptable condition, from a seller with very low feedback (like 3). He had not specified original or reprint, which is always a red flag. So I wrote him to ask whether it was original or not. > Almost immediately, I got this reply: "Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention! It was sold to me as an original, but as I look at itnow it appears to have a slight gloss on the back, which makes it a reprint. Thank you for questioning this item. I will remove it immediately, and apologize to the bidder." > There had been one bidder on the card. The listing now says This listingwas ended by the seller because the item was sold. > So did he pull it, or just go ahead and sell it to the one bidder? Did he know it was a reprint but was just waiting to see if he got away with it?The quickness of his response seemed very suspicious to me. The auction was 8 hours from completion, someone asks if the card is original and within minutes he checks the card, realizes it looks glossy on the back (though that had not occurred to him before) and pulls it, with apologies. > Am I getting cynical in my old age? Or is this just too fishy? ================= Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 08:51:37 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Original, Reprint, or Scammer? From: Bob Donaldson If I was a scammer I would do exactly what they did. But if I was innocent, I would also do the same On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:35 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Scam. > Wes Shepard > On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:49 AM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I don't buy very much on ebay (my wife would disagree) and when I do, it's > mostly to hit other lists, since that's often the only way I can from > here. However, I have found a few recently: a couple from one of our > beloved brethren dealers and then I got a couple handfuls of high # 55 B's > for cheap about which I was very pleased. Last month, Aaron helped me out > on a 78 BK purchase that killed off the Yankees sub-set. > A card that I've been stalking is the 60 Mantle #350 . I think I've been > inspired by recent success stories of Tiptonesque Mantles landed at > incredible bargains. So I've kept an eye out. > A couple days ago, I was tracking one in rough but acceptable condition, > from a seller with very low feedback (like 3). He had not specified > original or reprint, which is always a red flag. So I wrote him to ask > whether it was original or not. > Almost immediately, I got this reply: "Thank you very much for bringing > that to my attention! It was sold to me as an original, but as I look at it > now it appears to have a slight gloss on the back, which makes it a > reprint. Thank you for questioning this item. I will remove it immediately, > and apologize to the bidder." > There had been one bidder on the card. The listing now says This listing > was ended by the seller because the item was sold. > So did he pull it, or just go ahead and sell it to the one bidder? Did he > know it was a reprint but was just waiting to see if he got away with it? > The quickness of his response seemed very suspicious to me. The auction > was 8 hours from completion, someone asks if the card is original and > within minutes he checks the card, realizes it looks glossy on the back > (though that had not occurred to him before) and pulls it, with apologies. > Am I getting cynical in my old age? Or is this just too fishy? ================= Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:08:30 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Original, Reprint, or Scammer? From: ShoelessWes If he was innocent, he wouldn't know all the right words to say to keep himout of jail. "Sold to me as an 'original'..." He also was quick to agree and acknowledged that gloss on the back automatically equates to a reprint. How would you know that? Well, you would know that if you were a scammer. If the seller was as innocent as my sister, who doesn't even know what a mickey mantle is, they would not yield at first. He's trying to keep clean. You can polish a turd all you want, but it still smells like shit. Fraud. Wes Shepard > On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Bob Donaldson wrote: > If I was a scammer I would do exactly what they did. > But if I was innocent, I would also do the same > :-( >> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:35 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Scam. >> Wes Shepard >>> On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:49 AM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> I don't buy very much on ebay (my wife would disagree) and when I do, it's mostly to hit other lists, since that's often the only way I can from here. However, I have found a few recently: a couple from one of our beloved brethren dealers and then I got a couple handfuls of high # 55 B's for cheap about which I was very pleased. Last month, Aaron helped me out on a 78 BK purchase that killed off the Yankees sub-set. >>> A card that I've been stalking is the 60 Mantle #350 . I think I've been inspired by recent success stories of Tiptonesque Mantles landed at incredible bargains. So I've kept an eye out. >>> A couple days ago, I was tracking one in rough but acceptable condition, from a seller with very low feedback (like 3). He had not specified original or reprint, which is always a red flag. So I wrote him to ask whether it was original or not. >>> Almost immediately, I got this reply: "Thank you very much for bringing that to my attention! It was sold to me as an original, but as I look at it now it appears to have a slight gloss on the back, which makes it a reprint. Thank you for questioning this item. I will remove it immediately, andapologize to the bidder." >>> There had been one bidder on the card. The listing now says This listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold. >>> So did he pull it, or just go ahead and sell it to the one bidder? Didhe know it was a reprint but was just waiting to see if he got away with it? The quickness of his response seemed very suspicious to me. The auction was 8 hours from completion, someone asks if the card is original and within minutes he checks the card, realizes it looks glossy on the back (though that had not occurred to him before) and pulls it, with apologies. >>> Am I getting cynical in my old age? Or is this just too fishy? ================= Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 07:37:58 -0600 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Original, Reprint, or Scammer? From: Mike Rumley-Wells That's what I thought. If I had a nice card that I was hoping to sell for some money, my first response would not be, "Oh, you're right! This isn't worth much at all!" I'd be defensive and try to convince the buyer (and myself) that it is worth a lot. On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 7:08 AM, ShoelessWes wrote: > If he was innocent, he wouldn't know all the right words to say to keep > him out of jail. > "Sold to me as an 'original'..." > He also was quick to agree and acknowledged that gloss on the back > automatically equates to a reprint. How would you know that? Well, you > would know that if you were a scammer. > If the seller was as innocent as my sister, who doesn't even know what a > mickey mantle is, they would not yield at first. He's trying to keep clean. > You can polish a turd all you want, but it still smells like shit. Fraud. > Wes Shepard > On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:51 AM, Bob Donaldson wrote: > If I was a scammer I would do exactly what they did. > But if I was innocent, I would also do the same > :-( > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 8:35 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Scam. >> Wes Shepard >> On Sep 20, 2017, at 2:49 AM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < >> OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> I don't buy very much on ebay (my wife would disagree) and when I do, >> it's mostly to hit other lists, since that's often the only way I can from >> here. However, I have found a few recently: a couple from one of our >> beloved brethren dealers and then I got a couple handfuls of high # 55 B's >> for cheap about which I was very pleased. Last month, Aaron helped me out >> on a 78 BK purchase that killed off the Yankees sub-set. >> A card that I've been stalking is the 60 Mantle #350 . I think I've been >> inspired by recent success stories of Tiptonesque Mantles landed at >> incredible bargains. So I've kept an eye out. >> A couple days ago, I was tracking one in rough but acceptable condition, >> from a seller with very low feedback (like 3). He had not specified >> original or reprint, which is always a red flag. So I wrote him to ask >> whether it was original or not. >> Almost immediately, I got this reply: "Thank you very much for bringing >> that to my attention! It was sold to me as an original, but as I look atit >> now it appears to have a slight gloss on the back, which makes it a >> reprint. Thank you for questioning this item. I will remove it immediately, >> and apologize to the bidder." >> There had been one bidder on the card. The listing now says This >> listing was ended by the seller because the item was sold. >> So did he pull it, or just go ahead and sell it to the one bidder? Did >> he know it was a reprint but was just waiting to see if he got away with >> it? The quickness of his response seemed very suspicious to me. The >> auction was 8 hours from completion, someone asks if the card is original >> and within minutes he checks the card, realizes it looks glossy on the back >> (though that had not occurred to him before) and pulls it, with apologies. >> Am I getting cynical in my old age? Or is this just too fishy? ================= Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2017 09:21:46 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Original, Reprint, or Scammer? From: Nate Mack Total scam! eBay is full of this crap! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:54:56 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: DS: '78 Topps Football partial set. From: chris tripler Just looking to cover shipping. 424 cards, mostly VG-EX to EX+ some stars, CLs, and most of the TC's including Tarkenton, Bleier, Alzado, Griese, Plunkett, Greenwood, Bartkowski, Ken Anderson, Riggins, Cross, Dierdorf, Joiner, Stabler, Jaworski. ================= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 13:31:35 -0400 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] DS: '78 Topps Football partial set. From: chris tripler SOLD! thanks, OBC! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2017, at 11:54 AM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Just looking to cover shipping. > 424 cards, mostly VG-EX to EX+ > some stars, CLs, and most of the TC's including Tarkenton, Bleier, Alzado, Griese, Plunkett, Greenwood, Bartkowski, Ken Anderson, Riggins, Cross, Dierdorf, Joiner, Stabler, Jaworski. > $10 > Trip ================= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:42:18 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Delia cameo appearance in Valley Forge From: Wayne Delia Anyone going to the Valley Forge show this weekend, look up Dave Estright's table, he's usually wearing a red Ohio State cap and works the table with his wife & son. I might make an appearance tomorrow afternoon if I get out of work* early enough, otherwise I'm coming down Saturday, for the express purpose of buying cards from just one dealer (Dave) and maybe playing an hour of blackjack in the upstairs casino. He's got several boxes of minor stars, stars, high numbers, old commons, and minor HOF'ers in about VG or VG/EX condition at prices so low you will question his sanity. Please also say hello to any of the other OBC Certified Dealers there even if their prices ain't what they used to be (cough-cough-Uncle-Dick-cough). *- Wayne, what happened to your retirement?, you may ask. I'm doing a favor for a long-time friend, taking a seasonal, part time position as deputy tax collector for the Arlington Central School District in NY. It's mindless clerical work, so when my boss asked me if I was having fun yet, I told her "Look, I collect baseball cards. I put cards into order all the time. I could do this all day." ================= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:46:59 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Delia cameo appearance in Valley Forge From: Matt Yudt Wayne - been a regular at his philly show booth for the last 3 or 4 shows now (dont think he's been doing it much longer). Great guy and amazing prices. Not looking good for me getting in before show opens and might not arrive until 4 ish. Save some goodies - he'll be my first stop, and usually is Look forward to meeting. Ed Schott will be there and Betza too i think Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos > On Sep 21, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Anyone going to the Valley Forge show this weekend, look up Dave Estright's table, he's usually wearing a red Ohio State cap and works the table with his wife & son. I might make an appearance tomorrow afternoon if I get out of work* early enough, otherwise I'm coming down Saturday, for the express purpose of buying cards from just one dealer (Dave) and maybe playing an hour of blackjack in the upstairs casino. He's got several boxes of minor stars, stars, high numbers, old commons, and minor HOF'ers in about VG or VG/EX condition at prices so low you will question his sanity. Please also say hello to any of the other OBC Certified Dealers there even if their prices ain't what they used to be (cough-cough-Uncle-Dick-cough). > Best, > WMD > *- Wayne, what happened to your retirement?, you may ask. I'm doing a favor for a long-time friend, taking a seasonal, part time position as deputy tax collector for the Arlington Central School District in NY. It's mindless clerical work, so when my boss asked me if I was having fun yet, I told her "Look, I collect baseball cards. I put cards into order all the time. I could do this all day." ================= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:26:35 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Waiver wire From: Robert Fitts Four HOF uglies tonight all poor condition 1956 Slaughter - surface rips 1957 Aparicio major surface wear 1963 Kaline hole punch through eye - I assume he must have bested previous owner=E2=99s favorite team once too often 1966 Koufax with mustache, beard and bags under eyes Please provide mailing address Rob fitts ================= Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:32:13 -0400 To: Robert Fitts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waiver wire From: ShoelessWes Pics please? Wes Shepard > On Sep 21, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Four HOF uglies tonight all poor condition > 1956 Slaughter - surface rips > 1957 Aparicio major surface wear > 1963 Kaline hole punch through eye - I assume he must have bested previous owner=E2=99s favorite team once too often > 1966 Koufax with mustache, beard and bags under eyes > Please provide mailing address > Rob fitts ================= To: Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:39:40 -0400 Subject: Philly Show/ Mike McCann From: "Sal Domino" Is anyone here going to the Philly show this weekend? Mike McCann asked me to let you know he will be there. He also asked a favor. If anyone is going, he might need someone to watch his table for a few minutes in case he has to make a run to the bathroom or grab a bite. Mike has been very good to us and said he will do something special for whoever can help him out (Not that he really needs to do this, check out what he has done already). So if you are going to Philly, stop by Mike's first thing to let him know you guys are there, maybe swap cell numbers and help out one of the best dealers we have ever had in OBC. He also wanted me to remind you that he picked up a huge vintage publication collection. Mostly Sport magazine (included #1 issue) and lots of Sporting News from 1949-1960. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 02:34:04 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show/ Mike McCann From: "Sal Domino" Mike's email is: if you want to reach out to him Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:40 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show/ Mike McCann Is anyone here going to the Philly show this weekend? Mike McCann asked me to let you know he will be there. He also asked a favor. If anyone is going, he might need someone to watch his table for a few minutes in case he has to make a run to the bathroom or grab a bite. Mike has been very good to us and said he will do something special for whoever can help him out (Not that he really needs to do this, check out what he has done already). So if you are going to Philly, stop by Mike's first thing to let him know you guys are there, maybe swap cell numbers and help out one of the best dealers we have ever had in OBC. He also wanted me to remind you that he picked up a huge vintage publication collection. Mostly Sport magazine (included #1 issue) and lots of Sporting News from 1949-1960. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 22 Sep 2017 23:32:00 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Delia cameo appearance in Valley Forge From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:50:14 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Delia cameo appearance in Valley Forge From: Ken M I am already here. I saw Eddie and Matt today. Will be at the show tomorrow. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: b_betza@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Fri, Sep 22, 2017 7:32 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Delia cameo appearance in Valley Forge I will be there for sure--- Mr. Morganti making an appearance as well? Brian Betza ================= To: "=?utf-8?Q?obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com?=" Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 01:15:03 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Philly_show_report?From: ================= Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 00:29:16 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gremlins 1976 From: ShoelessWes 3 jumped out of my 1976 Topps set, #8 tito fuentes #165 gene tenace #317 john candelaria Anyone with these in hopefully mid to higher end? Thanks! Wes Shepard ================= To: "'ShoelessWes'" , Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 00:57:57 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins 1976 From: "Sal Domino" Gottem all Wes, the Tenace has a surface crease but will fill the hole for now J Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 12:29 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins 1976 3 jumped out of my 1976 Topps set, #8 tito fuentes #165 gene tenace #317 john candelaria Anyone with these in hopefully mid to higher end? Thanks! Wes Shepard ================= Date: 23 Sep 2017 12:45:42 +0000 To: Subject: LA-area OBCers? From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 23 Sep 2017 16:47:16 +0000 To: Subject: It is a small world From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 17:32:17 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Waiver Wire From: Jerry Coker A few waivers. Please include your address. Thanks! Jerry: 52B #76 Del Ennis p/f (pencil on front)56T #317 Al Aber f/g59T p-f #107, 117, 118, 120, 122, 133, ,134, 135, 140, 143, 159.60T p-f #5, 18, 106, 111, 117, 121, 128, 135, 138, 156, 163, 176, 192 Jerry Coker ================= To: "=?utf-8?Q?obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com?=" Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 23:29:44 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Philly_Show_Report_(Day_2)?From: ================= Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:48:50 -0400 To: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show Report (Day 2) From: David Luciano Hey Ken, Wow we are going to be close. My daughter is playing in Akron at Firestone the Racers stadium for a double header. She catches for Notre Dame College. If she only catches the first game, maybe we will head a little south. Please give me the info for the show. Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 23, 2017, at 7:29 PM, cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi gang, > Had a nice Italian meal last night and got a good night=E2=99s sleep. Finally rolled into the show about an hour after it opened at 9. First table I stopped at today was Just Collect. A friend of mine there has been promising to get some OBC boxes to me since before the last National, but forgot them again. I poked through his dollar boxes and found a couple nice 59Dolan Nichols no trade variations. > Across from that table was Blowout cards (I think that=E2=99s the name) Picked up a few odd high numbers in the 50 cent box and another 57 checklist (Blony) in his discount boxes - and I spotted a tipton Banks RC marked $100. Got him to do the whole pile for just a little more than that. I didn=E2=99t have the Banks for more than a couple minutes though. > Wandered down the next aisle and came across Matt Yudt and Brian Betzaat Dave Estright=E2=99s table. I gave Brian my handshake and then showed him the Banks - one of the last three he needed for the set. Sold! Although that pretty much killed the rest of Brian=E2=99s money for the show. We made plans to go to lunch soon and I wandered a bit more around the roomand went to Mike McCann=E2=99s table to see if he needed a break beforewe left for lunch. Matt was already manning the table when I walked up. Wewent upstairs to the casino food court for some overpriced, but oversized pizza slices. Brian went home and Matt grabbed a couple slices to go for Mike back downstairs before leaving himself. > After lunch, I headed down to Uncle Dick=E2=99s table for the first time. I only managed to find one hockey card in his discount boxes, but I broke down and got a few nicer (but more expensive) cards for my hockey lists. Then I walked by Dave E=E2=99s table again to find Wayne Delia had made an appearance at last. We chatted for a bit and I made one more loop around the show to end up at Mike McCann=E2=99s table to close out the show. I helped him cover up his table, but not before he practically gave me all the non-sport cards I wanted for what probably amounted to less than a buck each (Topps Wings, Flags of the World and Presidents) and a pile of 77-78 bkb grey backs including a bunch of stars for a song. Most of that stuff will hit the waiver wire upon my return. Overall, a pretty good day with a few good deals. I even got to cross a few more off of my own lists this time > Tonight=E2=99s plans are for a quick bite at the local Hooter=E2=99s and an early bedtime. The plan is to get up early and make the six hour trip to Canton, OH for a local card show where I will meet up with Sam Taylor. Then we=E2=99ll both head to his house. I have a dentist appointment on Monday. TAYL, > Ken M > Sent from my crummy laptop via Windows Mail ================= To: Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 01:08:16 -0400 Subject: philly show ramble From: "Matt Yudt" Philly show trip report =E2=93 pts 1 & 2 My initial thought of my wife going away this weekend was to have a lot of time for the Philly Show. But after not hearing back about a dealer badge to get started early on Friday, and my duties as family taxi, I made it to the King of Prussia casino basement around 4 PM Friday night =E2=93 BUT only had 2.5 hrs before another ride was needed. Straight to Dave Estright=E2=99s table. Ken was already there. Ken, from Boston of course, is in town on his way to the dentist. What appears to be a yearly trek too. Not long after staking my spot, Ed Schott arrived too. Ed hands me a 600 ctbox of phillies cards from 60=E2=99s on up, along with a few hits including a 57 Bunning, that was supposed to be a DS. I owe him a few beers nowinstead. I spent the entire 2+ hours standing and going through Dave=E2=99s discount piles, and gabbing. Did walk around briefly to say hello to a dealer or two and try and find Mike McAnn. On my way I traded a 79 kelloggs card with Ken. Something about variations. Anyway, left early and got home to sort and cross of the lists: 70+ bowmans (over half 52=E2=99s), and almost 30 topps sets hits from 50=E2=99s to 61 hi#=E2=99s etc. Just over $1 / card. Saturday AM =E2=93 wanted to get in at opening, but.. arrived after 10:30. Started looking at a few tables but kept thinking of the stacks on Dave=E2=99s table I didn=E2=99t get too in my abbreviated Friday night. So I went back =E2=93 another 40+ hits, mostly 51 bowmans today. While there, Brian Betza arrived with a nice handshake of =E2=9CI didn=E2=99t realize you were collecting football now=E2=9D stack of 70=E2=99s stars, and a bunch from 69 and thereabouts. After some meandering, I watched a table for a few moments for a local dealer from Allentown I know, and spotted Ken and Brian across the isle. Joined them and got in on a few 52 topps for $3 each. Tried to get a good price on some of the last 5 57 topps I needed, but my target price (based on ebay sold listing averages) is too low for any of the ones I saw. Anyway, had a nice, but short, lunch with Ken and Brian before taking a fewslices of pizza to Mike Mcann who had a few stacks of 51 bowman bb and fb just for us. Snagged 18 of the bb for $2 ea =E2=93 he was very graciousfor the bathroom break and food run provided. This is his first Philly Show in King of Prussia and I look forward to seeing him at future shows! Had to leave early again for another ride duty, but grabbed two binders of an 86 and an 87 topps baseball sets. Not for the cards, but for the binders and sleeves =E2=93 nice sleeves to, not the cheap ones made today - $3each =8A Fun, but brief, show for me this time. Not the same without my friend Joce doing the show and staying over. Great seeing Ken, Ed and Brian. Sorry I missed you Wayne=E2=A6 No part 3. I=E2=99m playing golf tomorrow=E2=A6 OBC forever, Matt Yudt ================= To: "=?utf-8?Q?obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com?=" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 02:34:49 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Canton_Show_Report?From: ================= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:20:34 +0000 (UTC) To: Yahoogroups Subject: Heads up - Saturday's Waiver Wire's going out this week! From: Jerry Coker Just a heads up that all waivers were claimed and cards are going out this week. If there were multiple requests for a single card ... for the person(s) who didn't get it ... I looked at your want list and was able to find something else you needed. So everyone gets something! Thanks ... and have a great week! Jerry. Jerry Coker ================= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:12:12 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Looking to finish my 1969 Topps set Dealer scum??? From: rjsfgmv@aol.com I have a little money and ebay is killing me a bit. I am looking for the following cards in vgish shape. If anyone has some to sell, please let me know. Randy Welk 1969 TOPPS NEED 002 050 057 095 162 163 168 169 190 221 237 245 255 260 307 375 410 424 430 440 480 533 545 547 550 560 564 572 573 589 597 600 601 612 624 630 634 640 650 657 ================= Date: 25 Sep 2017 19:35:29 +0000 To: Subject: Isn't it great when a card on your top ten list... From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: 25 Sep 2017 20:21:07 +0000 To: Subject: Anyone know eBay user: A.J. Vezina? From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:44:47 -0400 To: ansonwhaley@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know eBay user: A.J. Vezina? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Are you sure that is his name? Vezina is the name of the HOF goaltender the trophy is named after. There is an AJ Sportsworld: A.J. Sports World that is a major hockey seller. They do set up at the semi-annual Toronto show. I am not positive I will make it this November, but may. Let me knowwhat photos you are looking for. You never know what I may have a type card Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Sep 25, 2017 4:21 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know eBay user: A.J. Vezina? Hey guys, wondering if anyone here knows of this eBay seller. He sells a lot of pre-war stuff and has some pretty obscure hockey trade cards I didn't previously have cataloged on my site. In short, I'm just trying to get his permission to use a few of his images. I reached out a couple of times via eBay Messenger but haven't heard back. I've decided to not press it but figured I'd see if anyone here knew him before completely giving up. If anyone has any sort of 'in' with him, please shoot me a message, if you wouldn't mind. ================= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:46:20 -0400 To: davidluftig@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Isn't it great when a card on your top ten From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Congratulations on killing another set with nothing! -----Original Message----- From: davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Sep 25, 2017 3:36 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Isn't it great when a card on your top ten list... ... Turns out not to exist? I spent two years trying to complete the obscure 1901 Ogden's Tabs Series A boxing subset only to discover that PSA is, infact, incorrect in their own checklist. It turns out that PSA has a SeriesB card listed on their Series A checklist. I had a nagging suspicion this might be the case, but after doing a lot of research I'm confidant that it's them, not me who is in the wrong. To PSA's defense, it's not an easy set to keep track of. Not all numerical cards exist and there might even be duplicated numbers within the set. Still, I spent a lot of time searching and asking dealers for a card that neverexisted. Just thought I'd share this story for anyone else relying on a PSA checklist to complete an obscure set. On the bright side, I completed another set! < p> David Luftig ================= To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:55:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Isn't it great when a card on your top ten From: JAY TYSVER ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 01:01:02 +0000 Subject: Fun video - cards in an abandoned home From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:34:14 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know eBay user: A.J. Vezina? From: Anson Whaley Hey Mike - Oh yeah, I'm sure that's probably not his real name. I'm sure the Vezina connection is based on the hockey player. I only meant that his eBay username is A.J. Vezina. Most of the hockey cards are pretty obscure trade cards - I've not seen most of them anywhere else. But here they are: https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkwhockey&_ssna.j.vezina&hashitem33c71d07f3%3Ag%3AVFkAAOSw44BYgiid&item222383900659&_osacat0&_from= I have the A&P and the American Sewing one, but not the others. On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:44 PM, wrote: > Anson, > Are you sure that is his name? Vezina is the name of the HOF goaltender > the trophy is named after. There is an AJ Sportsworld: A.J. Sports World > > that is a major hockey seller. They do set up at the semi-annual Toronto > show. I am not positive I will make it this November, but may. Let me > know what photos you are looking for. You never know what I may have a > type card of. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Mon, Sep 25, 2017 4:21 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know eBay user: A.J. Vezina? > Hey guys, wondering if anyone here knows of this eBay seller. He sells a > lot of pre-war stuff and has some pretty obscure hockey trade cards I > didn't previously have cataloged on my site. In short, I'm just trying to > get his permission to use a few of his images. > I reached out a couple of times via eBay Messenger but haven't heard back. > I've decided to not press it but figured I'd see if anyone here knew him > before completely giving up. If anyone has any sort of 'in' with him, > please shoot me a message, if you wouldn't mind. > Thanks! > Anson ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:50:01 -0500 Subject: site with airplane related card info From: mark zentkovich I saw a link to this site on another board and thought I would share The site seems to be more of a history of planes, but has a section on air plane related cards. http://www.skytamer.com/3.1.htm Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= To: yahoogroups , mark zentkovich Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:07:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] site with airplane related card info From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 17:17:09 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: 1959 topps football gremllin From: John E Dahms ================= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: Test From: John Dahms Not seeing my emails go through in my inbox. If you are seeing this please let me know John Dahms 310 E. Addison St. Jackson Mi. 49203 ================= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:53:54 -0400 To: OBC ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Test From: JDahms ================= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 15:05:12 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: 59 topps football gremlin From: JDahms ================= To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:38:21 -0400 Subject: no words needed From: ED SCHOTT -------- Forwarded Message -------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:25:52 -0400 From: easchott@comcast.net To: easchott@comcast.net ================= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 19:47:02 -0600 To: ED SCHOTT Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] no words needed From: Mike Rumley-Wells And then there was one...? On Tuesday, September 26, 2017, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:25:52 -0400 > From: easchott@comcast.net > > To: easchott@comcast.net > ================= Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:33:24 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] no words needed From: Ken M Well, 1.5 anyway. He needs the Ackley half of a Carlton RC I think. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Mike Rumley-Wells mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Sep 26, 2017 10:48 PMTo: ED SCHOTT;Cc: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] no words needed And then there was one...? On Tuesday, September 26, 2017, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: -------- Forwarded Message -------- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:25:52 -0400 From: easchott@comcast.net To: easchott@comcast.net ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 08:30:15 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Engagement and Two Babes From: Jake Brewer Interesting title huh? Let me explain. I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=C3=A9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's a beautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spending the rest of my life with! That's my first Babe ha. Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this was the time to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until I was average OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABE RUTH AUTOGRAPH! The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting. Manyof you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. When I was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to this day is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 08:33:25 -0400 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: Doug DeJong Congrats on all counts but especially on your engagement! Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] > Interesting title huh? Let me explain. > I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=C3=A9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's a beautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spending therest of my life with! That's my first Babe ha. > Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this was thetime to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until I wasaverage OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABE RUTH > The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting. Many of you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. When I was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to thisday is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. > So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) > Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Jake Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 12:59:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: JAY TYSVER Wow! Super Congrats on both Babes! Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:30 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] Interesting title huh? Let me explain. I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=E9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's a beautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spending the restof my life with! That's my first Babe ha. Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this was the time to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until I was average OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABE RUTH AUTOGRAPH! The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting. Many of you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. WhenI was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to this day is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! ================= To: Ken M , Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 09:47:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] no words needed From: ED SCHOTT Rittenberg says he has a whole Carlton for me On 9/26/2017 11:33 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Well, 1.5 anyway. He needs the Ackley half of a Carlton RC I think. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > *From: *Mike Rumley-Wellsmikerw7@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Date: *Tue, Sep 26, 2017 10:48 PM > *To: *ED SCHOTT; > *Cc: *obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com > ;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > ; > *Subject:*[OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] no words needed > And then there was one...? > On Tuesday, September 26, 2017, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net > [OBC-Wantlist] > > wrote: > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 21:25:52 -0400 > Fr om: easchott@comcast.net > To: easchott@comcast.net ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:13:28 -0400 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: David Luciano Congrats Jake and Amy, We host a bible study at our home (called bibles and beers) and we will pray for you and toast to you both. Might be blasphemy here, but the Ruth will be irrelevant compared to your Babe, Isaiah 62:5 - As a young man marries a young woman, so will your Builder marry you; as a bridegroom rejoices over his bride, so will your God rejoice over Dave Luciano 12815 Kingsway Dr, Chesterland, Ohio 216 406 5940 On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] > Interesting title huh? Let me explain. > I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=E9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's abeautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spending the rest of my life with! That's my first Babe ha. > Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this was thetime to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until I wasaverage OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABE RUTH > The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting. Many of you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. When I was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to thisday is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. > So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) > Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:22:37 -0400 To: Jake Brewer , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: JDahms ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 10:24:46 -0400 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: Steve Congratulations "Kid" ! Best wishes, Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:30 AM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] > Interesting title huh? Let me explain. > I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=C3=A9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's a beautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spending therest of my life with! That's my first Babe ha. > Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this was thetime to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until I wasaverage OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABE RUTH > The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting. Many of you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. When I was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to thisday is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. > So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) > Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:20:41 +0200 (CEST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 Congrats on the engagement! So Awesome! And congrats on the Ruth. You areshowing yourself to be very wise, as the group can attest that wife, kids , house.........LIFE, will definitely affect the budget. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On September 27, 2017 at 2:30 PM "Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com[OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] > Interesting title huh? Let me explain. > I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=C3=A9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's a beautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spendingthe rest of my life with! That's my first Babe ha. > Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this wasthe time to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until Iwas average OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABERUTH > The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting.Many of you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. When I was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to this day is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. > So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) > Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:39:17 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: Free Mets Tickets for Tonights Game 7/27 From: Dan Angland Two Nose bleeders..let me know if you want them.I'll email them to you.Dan Angland ================= Date: 27 Sep 2017 17:36:46 +0000 To: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: 27 Sep 2017 19:11:59 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Engagement and Two Babes From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 21:35:23 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] From: "Sal Domino" WTG Jake and well done! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Engagement and Two Babes [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] Interesting title huh? Let me explain. I have two BIG announcements. Number one, and most important- this past Sunday I got engaged to my fianc=C3=A9e Amy; and I couldn't be happier! She's a beautiful, faithful, Christian woman who I look forward to spending the rest of my life with! That's my first Babe ha. Secondly, This past week as well I acquired my #1 holy grail I've always wanted; and honestly didnt think I'd ever afford it. I decided this was the time to pull the trigger, because once you get married (buy a house, have kids in a few years, etc.) I wouldn't be able to try to buy one until I was average OBC age. (Get it?!? The Kid made a joke! haha) So while it's not technically vintage, I'm sure ya'll could still appreciate........A BABE RUTH AUTOGRAPH! The reason The Babe's John Hancock was my all-time holy grail is a special story to me. My late Nanny was the one who got me started collecting. Many of you have probably seen her picture on the front page of my website. WhenI was growing up, she had two movies. One was The Sandlot, which to this day is my favorite movie ever. In that movie they idolize The Babe as the greatest of all-time. So now I am proud to show off, and share with ya'll that I know have two Babes in my life (and that I have no money, and my card fund legit is gone for the next 5 months haha) Check out the pictures, thanks for reading! ================= To: "'obc ramblings'" Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 13:46:08 -0400 Subject: Consign 1973 Topps Set From: "Bob Donaldson" I have a 1973 set that is in NrMt/Mt. Part of my recent Yard Sale find. The gentleman I bought it from bought the entire set from a mail order back in the day. It looks like it has not been touched since. Anyways, I paid $430 combined for this and a near 1972 set plus about 600+ 66/67 cards and I would like to get my money back plus some profit for more card buying. My feel is the best way to do this is via auction. Was contemplating putting the set up on Ebay, but am also wondering if I should think about consigning. At the upcoming Shriner's show the following dealers will be there. I'd value anyone's opinion on consigning in general and any of the dealers below. Kevin Savage. My first choice as I've experience with him and his auctions. Huggins and Scott Memory Lane Sports Cards Plus Clean Sweep Auctions - Not expecting a thumbs up here Full list of dealers is here, I'm sure I've overlooked someone I've attached a few scans ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 19:56:22 +0000 Subject: HOCKTOBER is almost here! Plus an extension... From: Aaron Shirley Hey everyone. I've been SUPER stoked to see how much action has been going on with Seventies September! Thank you all so much for participating by listing, searching, editing and sending. I love it. So, what's next? Well... don't laugh... but it's almost time for... All hockey wantlists are welcome. A couple observations: 1) HOCKTOBER GOES LIVE THIS SATURDAY, September 30th, since Sundays are usually my busiest day. 2) I will COPY ALL THE HOCKEY LISTS on the Seventies September spreadsheet over to the new Hocktober spreadsheet for your convenience. The tab will then be deleted from the Seventies September page so there's no duplication. I'm doing that because... 3) I'm also going to KEEP SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER ACTIVE for the time being. There has been more action on this month's spreadsheet than on any previous one, so for those of you who wish to keep at it, slug away. That includes those of you who haven't yet listed anything! Go ahead and put more lists in there, folks (just please also note the day you added them). Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mhl2WVmIoNjkP8p69k81fp8dnjrl26FSQSrd1ni4VFU/edit?uspsharing 4) SPREAD THE WORD! If you're a hockey collector, you probably know the other guys in OBC who are. Please mention it to them if you don't see their lists. 5) Then should I tease NON-SPORT NOVEMBER? Ehh? What say you? ================= To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com, Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:57:06 -0400 Subject: GOD Bless..... From: ED SCHOTT Mac W !!!!!!!!! -------- Forwarded Message -------- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:44:06 -0400 From: easchott@comcast.net To: easchott@comcast.net ================= To: ED SCHOTT Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 21:44:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] GOD Bless..... [2 Attachments] From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:05:37 -0700 To: ED SCHOTT Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] GOD Bless..... [2 Attachments] From: John Stamper That's Awesome!! Congrats. And nice kill Mac!! John Stamper > On Sep 28, 2017, at 1:57 PM, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Thanks] > [Attachment(s) from ED SCHOTT included below] > Mac W !!!!!!!!! > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:44:06 -0400 > From: easchott@comcast.net > To: easchott@comcast.net ================= Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:27:33 -0700 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Back from the West Coast [2 Attachments] From: Rick I would leave as is and let Mother Nature have them rot over the next fiftyyears. Sent from my iPad > On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:47 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from LAWRENCE TIPTON included below] > I have been out in California for several weeks on extended babysitting duties:) I have a pile of OBC inbounds to go through and post up my thank yous, but wanted to write a quick message. > The October =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D will be my last, and a few guys have told me how much they will miss them. It=E2=99s been a lot of fun, but it=E2=99s time for me to change it up a bit. Of course I am thankful for the consignments, but most of the offerings have been cards that I have purchased. Which of course I do not mind giving them away, it=E2=99s theway things are done here in OBC. But let=E2=99s just say its a businessmodel that I just can=E2=99t sustain LOL! I still enjoy picking up these bargains, and these =E250s and =E260s cards are what I know best. So I will probably continue to purchase these cards, but need to try to re-coup some of my spending on the OBC =E2=9CDealer-Scum=E2=9D server. The final Wauction will be posted in a couple of weeks. > Hurricane Irma caused quite a bit of trouble to my local community. We are not so concerned about flooding here, it=E2=99s always the wind that causes the damage. And I was 2,800 miles away watching the news reports frombeautiful Napa California. My house escaped damage, but I have three treesdown, including a cluster of four large water oaks that were very important and beautiful trees. Fortunately the huge oaks fell away from my home, and also narrowly missed my neighbors house. These water oaks have shallow root systems, and six inches of rain followed by 70 MPH wind gusts proved to be to much. We lost power for two days, but some of the neighboring areas went for up to five days without power. I was in contact with both of my awesome neighbors William on my right and Eddie on my left. I was told everything here was OK, and no need to come home early. And my awesome neighbors did most of my clean-up too. We still need to figure out a plan to get rid of what is left of the water oaks that fell. In the middle of cutting up thetree, it made a dangerous move, and stood back up LOL. My thinking is to continue to cut the main trunks and some how, get this thing back on the ground where I can remove some of the dirt around the root systems and get it out of here. > I=E2=99ll attach a couple of pictures. Picture one is my daughters boyfriend who checked on my place after the storm rolled through. Picture two shows what is left of these water oaks. > Off to open the mail! > Guru > > ================= Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 20:09:43 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Wayne's Valley Forge show report From: Wayne Delia Not a bad show at all, but I'm developing a bad habit of going to the marquee shows intending to buy cards from only one dealer, Dave Estright. He couldn't say enough good things about the OBC boys at Valley Forge the night before, saying he'd trust them to watch one side of his big table while he takes care of the other. I had some trouble getting down there, as there was a 2 1/2 hour delay on Interstate 287 due to a very badly flipped/rolled Lexus and what appeared to be a fatality closing all southbound lanes. I made it to the show at about 2PM, which was cutting it close on Saturday as the show closed doors at 5. Beeline to Dave's table, and jumped into the pig trough immediately. I got what Ken Morganti would even agree was a great deal, about $3500 "book value in NM" for $340, less than 10%, and most of these cards were in VG condition. Dave offered them to me for $300 which I declined, I insisted on paying him the marked prices which were already strongly discounted. He's willing to bring about four or five boxes of these bargains to shows just to get people to his table, and he's going to offer an OBC discount on top of that. So here's what I came home with last weekend: Wayne's haul at the Valley Forge Casino September show. All cards in nice VG condition unless noted. 1952 Bowman: Piersall Ex/Mt 1954 Topps: Lasorda Ex (completes my 1954 set!!!) 1955 Topps: Sain, Skowron, Amoros, 7 commons 1958 Topps: Cepeda Rookie, Killebrew, Spahn, Mathews, Roberts, Fox, Martin, Presidents, Wilhelm, 16 commons 1959 Topps: F. Robinson, Drysdale, Ashburn/Mays, Corsair OF Trio, Martin, Phillies Team SP, 12 commons 1960 Topps: Mays/Rigney, Berra, 7 tough commons G/VG 1961 Topps: McCovey, Kaline, F. Robinson, Pirates team, Twins Team, Gehrig Benched, Mantle 565 Ft HR, Campanella AS, 5 common AS cards, 3 minor stars, 4 common high numbers 1962 Topps: Yastrzemski, Ford, Spahn AS 1963 Topps: Mathews, Mays/Musial, 2 high number commons 1967 Topps: Stargell, Perry, Jenkins, Mets Team, Dodgers Team Total cost $340, less casino winnings of $200 = $140 for all of the above. Dave is offering these small-ish boxes of semi-rigid Card Savers, standard size is $8 per box of 200, larger size is $10 per box of 200. I expect to see him at the White Plains show second week in October. Let me know soon if you want me to pick some up for you. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 21:09:25 -0400 To: wayne.m.delia@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wayne's Valley Forge show report From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Congrats on killing your 1954 Topps set! Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Sep 28, 2017 8:38 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Wayne's Valley Forge show report Not a bad show at all, but I'm developing a bad habit of going to the marquee shows intending to buy cards from only one dealer, Dave Estright. He couldn't say enough good things about the OBC boys at Valley Forge the night before, saying he'd trust them to watch one side of his big table while he takes care of the other. I had some trouble getting down there, as there wasa 2 1/2 hour delay on Interstate 287 due to a very badly flipped/rolled Lexus and what appeared to be a fatality closing all southbound lanes. I madeit to the show at about 2PM, which was cutting it close on Saturday as theshow closed doors at 5. Beeline to Dave's table, and jumped into the pig trough immediately. I got what Ken Morganti would even agree was a great deal, about $3500 "book value in NM" for $340, less than 10%, and most of these cards were in VG condition. Dave offered them to me for $300 which I declined, I insisted on paying him the marked prices which were already strongly discounted. He's willing to bring about four or five boxes of these bargains to shows just to get people to his table, and he's going to offer an OBC discount on top of that. So here's what I came home with last weekend: Wayne's haul at the Valley Forge Casino September show. All cards in nice VG condition unless noted. 1952 Bowman: Piersall Ex/Mt 1954 Topps: Lasorda Ex (completes my 1954 set!!!) 1955 Topps: Sain, Skowron, Amoros, 7 commons 1958 Topps: Cepeda Rookie, Killebrew, Spahn, Mathews, Roberts, Fox, Martin,Presidents, Wilhelm, 16 commons 1959 Topps: F. Robinson, Drysdale, Ashburn/Mays, Corsair OF Trio, Martin, Phillies Team SP, 12 commons 1960 Topps: Mays/Rigney, Berra, 7 tough commons G/VG 1961 Topps: McCovey, Kaline, F. Robinson, Pirates team, Twins Team, Gehrig Benched, Mantle 565 Ft HR, Campanella AS, 5 common AS cards, 3 minor stars,4 common high numbers 1962 Topps: Yastrzemski, Ford, Spahn AS 1963 Topps: Mathews, Mays/Musial, 2 high number commons 1967 Topps: Stargell, Perry, Jenkins, Mets Team, Dodgers Team Total cost $340, less casino winnings of $200 $140 for all of the above. Dave is offering these small-ish boxes of semi-rigid Card Savers, standard size is $8 per box of 200, larger size is $10 per box of 200. I expect to see him at the White Plains show second week in October. Let me know soon ifyou want me to pick some up for you. Virus-free. www.avast.com=09=09 ================= Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 22:15:04 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set From: Wayne Delia Bob, it would be dangerous to your cards if you consigned them to Clean Sweep Auctions, because Sal Domino and I have been wanting to tip over Steve (Jerkman) Verkman's table for the past twenty years or more. ================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:58:52 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Football Waivers... Part 1. From: chris tripler Gone through all UV cards and all the Vintage I have...the dupes box has been pretty well drawn down. But, here's the football UV (mostly available thanks to the generosity of SEAN MCGOWAN... claim away * 1965 Philadelphia #58* 1966 Philadelphia #48 * 1969 Topps #s 18, 107, 116* 1970 Topps #s 37 (x3), 39, 42, 45, 106(x2), 122 (x2), 124, 168* 1971 Topps #s 2, 4, 8, 9 (x2), 14 (x2), 15 (x2), 16, 19,20, 23 (x3), 29, 31, 33, 35 (x2), 38 (x2), 40, 43, 44, 46, 47, 49 (x2), 52, 53, 56 (x2), 57 (x2), 67, 69, 73, 75, 77 (x2), 79 (x2), 80 (x3), 81, 82, 84, 87, 89 (x2), 93, 99 (x2), 102, 105 (x2), 107, 115, 119, 122 (x2), 127 (x4), 132 (x3), 136, 171, 212, 249 * 1972 Topps #s 6, 8, 14, 15,16 (x2), 17 (x2), 19, 20, 21 (x2), 23, 24, 25 (x2), 29 (x2), 32, 37, 39, 41, 42 (x2), 44, 45, 46 (x2), 47, 48 (x2), 49, 51, 52, 53, 54, 58, 59 (x2), 60, 61, 62, 64 (x2), 71, 72 (x2), 73, 75, 77 (x3), 84, 85, 87, 90, 91, 92 (x2), 94, 95 (x2), 96, 98, 99, 102, 103 (x2), 104, 107 (x3), 108 (x2), 111, 113, 117, 118, 119, 121 (x2), 123 (x2), 129 (x3), 130, 131 (x2), 137, 187, 227* 1976 Topps/Wonder Bread #18 Jack Ham* 1977 Topps #s 11 (x2), 12 (x2), 14, 16, 17, 21(x2), 23 (x2), 24 (x2), 25, 26, 30 (x3), 31, 32, 34 (x2), 35,37 (x3), 58, 114, 144, 155, 185, 188 (x2), 197, 243, 248, 255, 317, 350, 455, 500, 515 Griese, 528 More to come.. addresses always welcomed. ================= Date: 29 Sep 2017 15:38:40 +0000 To: Subject: More TV time for me? - Dancing With The... OBCer From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 29 Sep 2017 18:40:26 +0000 To: Subject: Re: More TV time for me? - Dancing With The... OBCer UPDATE From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 14:48:14 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: eBay seller oldbbcards From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Every time I place an order with this seller, he includes a few extra beat up cards. I purchased a single card from him, and it arrived today. He included 26 extra freebies 1952-1959! He must know we are OBC? ================= To: "'LAWRENCE TIPTON'" , Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:11:55 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller oldbbcards From: "Bob Donaldson" Is that John Morrison? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:48 PM To: obc Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller oldbbcards Every time I place an order with this seller, he includes a few extra beat up cards. I purchased a single card from him, and it arrived today. He included 26 extra freebies 1952-1959! He must know we are OBC? ================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:44:07 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller oldbbcards From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net I believe it is John Morrison as well. -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'LAWRENCE TIPTON' ; 'obc Ramblings' Sent: Fri, Sep 29, 2017 7:12 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller oldbbcards Is that John Morrison? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:48 PM To: obc Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller oldbbcards Every time I place an order with this seller, he includes a few extra beat up cards. I purchased a single card from him, and it arrived today. He included 26 extra freebies 1952-1959! He must know we are OBC? ================= To: "'Wayne Delia'" , Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:50:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set From: "Sal Domino" I will validate what Wayne said. He needs a good tipping! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:15 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set Bob, it would be dangerous to your cards if you consigned them to Clean Sweep Auctions, because Sal Domino and I have been wanting to tip over Steve (Jerkman) Verkman's table for the past twenty years or more. Virus-free. ================= To: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:03:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: More TV time for me? - Dancing With The... OBCer UPDATE From: "Sal Domino" Make sure you hold up a 58 Yellow when the camera pans on you! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 2:40 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: More TV time for me? - Dancing With The... OBCer Not long after I sent this as a Ramble, my wife's contact (the one who got us the tickets) got a call from Tom Bergeron (the host of the show) - not only will we have VIP tickets, we have Tom Bergeron's VIP tickets. So I'd say our odds of being on camera increased! Tom H. ================= To: "'Sal Domino'" , Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 19:53:03 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set From: "Bob Donaldson" I put Clean Sweep on the list as I was interested in the responses I=E2=99d get. Pretty much what I expected. FYI, I=E2=99ve heard from a couple of people, good things on Huggins. Iwill probably stop by their table. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:50 PM To: 'Wayne Delia' ; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set I will validate what Wayne said. He needs a good tipping! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:15 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set Bob, it would be dangerous to your cards if you consigned them to Clean Sweep Auctions, because Sal Domino and I have been wanting to tip over Steve (Jerkman) Verkman's table for the past twenty years or more. Virus-free. ================= Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 20:37:45 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set From: chris tripler I've had great success with Robert Edwards auctions. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 29, 2017, at 7:53 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I put Clean Sweep on the list as I was interested in the responses I=E2=99d get. Pretty much what I expected. > FYI, I=E2=99ve heard from a couple of people, good things on Huggins. I will probably stop by their table. > Thanks > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 7:50 PM > To: 'Wayne Delia' ; 'OBC Ramblings' > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set > I will validate what Wayne said. He needs a good tipping! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:15 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Consign 1973 Topps Set > Bob, it would be dangerous to your cards if you consigned them to Clean Sweep Auctions, because Sal Domino and I have been wanting to tip over Steve(Jerkman) Verkman's table for the past twenty years or more. > Best, > WMD > Virus-free. www.avast.com ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2017 14:55:46 -0400 Subject: Misc Availables From: "Bob Donaldson" Please include your name and address. Ted Williams Exhibit. Pretty sure this is a reprint 1920s Exhbit John Collins, missing about 20% of the lower right of the card Goudey Wide Pen Joe Coscarart 1975 Sport Hobbyist 1930s team cards SH78 Reds, SH93 Browns, SH74 Pirates 1967? Mets Ed Kranpool about 5x7, color 1967 Topps FB pinups #13 16 National Chicle Fine Pen Eldin Auker pinhole