================= Date: 01 Aug 2017 01:11:24 +0000 To: Subject: Baseball Greats set? From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:42:24 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: '56 Davy crockett and '38 Chapman boxing From: Sean McGowan I was in a card store in Meredith NH. He had a bunch of 1956 Davy Crockett cards priced at $130 or something... I remember thinking that it would be about $3/card. While I was there, he said that everything was priced at book, but he would go 50% of that... I didn't ask about these, but if you are looking, maybe he can help. He also had a bunch of 1938 Chapman cigarette boxing cards. I don't remember how many now :( It may have been the whole set. In any case, I just wanted to give you guys a heads up. The store website http://budscards.com/ There is a "contact me" form there, or you can look up the phone number, it is listed. Good luck, and tell me if you have luck with him... he seemed nice enough. I even got a couple high number '51 Bowman baseball for $2... none of them are left though :) ================= Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 02:13:25 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: Waivers: 1978 Olde Cards (7) From: Matthew Glidden Olde Cards are claimed! Might have to split the lot. :-) On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:52 PM Matthew Glidden > Got these at Kurt's National table and didn't find a taker at the show: > would anyone like the lot of them? > 4 5 7 8 12 13 15 17 19 Wilhelm > Spike > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Matthew Glidden > Date: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:45 AM > Subject: Waivers: 1978 Olde Cards (7) > To: national > Got these from Jerry's table and they're up for grabs as singles or > starter set. It's a Minnesota regional set that was sold to fan by the > Twins. > 4 5 7 8 12 13 17 > Spike ================= To: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 21:57:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Baseball Greats set? From: "George Vrechek" Mike R-W, I have one of these as well, Ted Williams. My best recollection is that I picked it up as a type card in the mid-1980s. A quick look at the last complete SCD Guide for "Baseball Greats" wasn't fruitful. George Vrechek ================= To: , Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:04:55 -0500 Subject: Re: National Report Day 5 From: "George Vrechek" Pretty great that you still had the initiative to find some stuff the last day. I imagine your eyes start to glaze over, but the opportunity doesn't come around very often. It does seem economical (theoretically) to buy in I bought a bunch of exhibits for $1.25 each and found several black and white or sepia variations that I didn't have, plus a few upgrades and stuff for the dup book. I probably see more of my dup box than any other cards, and I keep trying to have some stuff of interest for OBCers. It seems that many of us have covered the more recent, basic sets and we need to keep an eye out for the odd balls, However, I have restricted my wantlist expansion to sports cards rather than non-sport and hence picked up a bunch of Sportscaster cards to really get off into the fringe sports. ================= Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:56:01 -0500 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: Baseball Greats set? From: Mike Rumley-Wells Uh, oh. If you're stumped, George, I'm nervous. On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:57 PM, George Vrechek > Mike R-W, > I have one of these as well, Ted Williams. My best recollection is that I > picked it up as a type card in the mid-1980s. A quick look at the last > complete SCD Guide for =E2=9CBaseball Greats=E2=9D wasn=E2=99t fruitful. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 10:04:04 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: 1975 Topps football checklists/schedules From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Does anyone have these on their wantlist? I think they were only available by mail from Topps. They sent you an uncut sheet. I have an uncut sheet, and found some singles at the National in a .10c box In the dime box I found a full set that I will add to my uncut sheet. But Ialso picked up 20 or so dupes these are individually cut and in rough shape. Anyone have these cut cards on your list? ================= Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:58:55 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC Meetup in the North Shore & an early Waiver (FB & Basketball) From: chris tripler Just met up with SEAN MCGOWAN for the first time here in the North Shore. So nice to put faces with names. SEAN and I had a long conversation about teaching and my latest crazy idea. He handed me a box of football and basketball "waivers" that will keep me indebted till the end of cardboard time. Some great stuff in here including a 1968 Bart Starr and Ray Nitschke, wow!!!Anyways, I digress. I will have an official thanks coming out shortly, butfirst some waiver from the stuff SEAN sent over. Thanks, SEAN!A stack of "big" boys from the '76-77 Topps Basketball set. SEAN upgraded the waivers from WES SHEPHARD, so these are on the move again.claim away...#s 6, 9, 36 (x2), 56 (x2), 79, 88 (x2), 111, 119, 137, 141 and then some football waivers because I finally put some of these away andfound these dupes...btw, the 1960s topps years, not so easy to tell unlessyou already knew the designs. 1963T #s 26, 1021970 #s 37 (x2), 39, 42, 45, 106 (x2), 122, 124, 1681971 #s2, 9, 14, 15, 20, 23, 31, 40, 44, 46, 57, 73, 79, 80, 81, 87, 93, 99, 105,107119, 127, 136, 171, 2491972 #3 ================= Date: 01 Aug 2017 22:00:51 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver wire: written edition From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: George Vrechek , Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:17:39 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball Greats set? From: mark zentkovich 1985 Baseball Greats Caricatures http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/97182/cid/6781531/1985-Baseball-Greats-Caricatures-10-George-Brett?PageIndex1 mark z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 9:57 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: mikerw7@gmail.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball Greats set? Mike R-W, I have one of these as well, Ted Williams. My best recollection is that I picked it up as a type card in the mid-1980s. A quick look at the last complete SCD Guide for =E2=9CBaseball Greats=E2=9D wasn=E2=99t fruitful. George Vrechek ================= Date: 01 Aug 2017 23:32:30 +0000 To: Subject: Anyone want to kill the 50 Bowman set From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: 02 Aug 2017 02:59:28 +0000 To: Subject: My incredible National From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 10:51:38 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1936 Goudey master set milestone & wantlist From: Matthew Glidden Back in 2012, Net54 member DaveW started the leg work to eventually identify 176 different front/back combos for R322, aka 1936 Goudey Black-And-White. That's laid out here: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=159380 Thanks to OBC hits, National purchases, and online finds, I just passed the 50 card mark toward this set! A good distance traveled and plenty still to go. Thanks for all who helped so far and always interested in more to buy/trade/etc! Current wantlist: http://www.number5typecollection.com/p/vintage-wantlist.html#1936goudey ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 09:48:42 -0400 To: "ramblings, OBC" Subject: Fenway From: Ron H Any North shore ,South shore, inland or downtown folks going to Fenway tonight and want to meet up? Let me know. Ron Hoehne ================= Date: 02 Aug 2017 21:03:16 +0000 To: Subject: OBCer pictured in article From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: "directorth@aol.com" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 21:20:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 18:11:03 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: Ken M I think it's either Mroz or Mandell. Leaning towards the latter though. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 5:42 PMTo: directorth@aol.com;Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article I think that's Mroz. Yeah? No?Aaron Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Click on the link & look part way down the page. Who is the mystery OBCer in the blue shirt? It could be from this year's National or even last year's.http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-show-within-show/ ================= Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2017 18:11:03 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: Ken M I think it's either Mroz or Mandell. Leaning towards the latter though. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 5:42 PMTo: directorth@aol.com;Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article I think that's Mroz. Yeah? No?Aaron Sent from my iPhone On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Click on the link & look part way down the page. Who is the mystery OBCer in the blue shirt? It could be from this year's National or even last year's.http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-show-within-show/ ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 18:13:34 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: ShoelessWes It is me and Mike Mroz Wes Shepard > On Aug 2, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think that's Mroz. Yeah? No? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Click on the link & look part way down the page. Who is the mystery OBCer in the blue shirt? It could be from this year's National or even last year's. >> http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-show-within-show/ >> Tom ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:37:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: T J VALACAK Content-Disposition: inline TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-08-02 4:05:25 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article Click on the link & look part way down the page. Who is the mystery OBCer in the blue shirt? It could be from this year's National or even last year's. http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-show-within-show/ ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 18:40:33 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: Bob I think it's an imposter, OBC hats and shirts are suddenly a hot item on eBay Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2017, at 5:20 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think that's Mroz. Yeah? No? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Click on the link & look part way down the page. Who is the mystery OBCer in the blue shirt? It could be from this year's National or even last year's. >> http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-show-within-show/ >> Tom ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 20:50:36 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCer pictured in article From: Yahoo I think so too Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2017, at 17:20, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think that's Mroz. Yeah? No? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2017, at 4:03 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Click on the link & look part way down the page. Who is the mystery OBCer in the blue shirt? It could be from this year's National or even last year's. >> http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-show-within-show/ >> Tom ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 20:57:18 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: =?utf-8?B?R3VydXMg4oCcV2F1Y3Rpb27igJ0gIzEw?From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #10 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) Yes we accept consignments! Here at Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D, we charge ZERO consignment fees, and we pay the most in the industry for your valuable collectibles! Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D pays the consigner 100% of the price realized! (100% of ZERO is ZERO) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit of how many lots you request, but you can only win one lot. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and draw the winner out of the =E2=9Csplatter=E2=9D cover that sits on top of my microwave oven. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST, with =E2=9CWauction Winners=E2=9D announced. The =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D catalog will be published on the OBC Facebook 1. 1967 Topps baseball #150 Mickey Mantle. It appears to be some kind of scotch tape residue on the front top edge, which carries over to the back a little bit. The reverse is somewhat faded, just not that deep green color welike to see on our =E267s. 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #11 Mickey Mantle insert card. Collector grade card does have a bit of tape front and rear, and the expected chipping on the border is present. The OBC nickname for this set is =E2=9CGolden Uglies=E2=9D, and this card lives up to this name. It=E2=99s golden, and it=E2=99s 3. 1958 Topps baseball #486 Willie Mays (Sport Magazine All Star). Some very light scuffing on the front, but this is still a solid example of this card. No real paper loss front or reverse. Great colors too! I wouldn=E2=99t call it creased, but it=E2=99s kind of =E2=9Cwavy=E2=9D? 4. 1963 Fleer baseball #43 Maury Wills (RC). One of the keys to the set! Beautiful green color on the back just pops. Nice front too, EXEPT some IDIOTcovered up =E2=9CLos Angeles Dodgers=E2=9D with a =E2=9Cwhite-out=E2=9D stick! N.L MVP, really a solid G-VG card if this white out could be removed. Or maybe it=E2=99s paint? 5. 1955 Bowman baseball #134 Bob Feller. Some very light scuffing, but no real paper loss front or reverse. This is a nice G-VG card. On the back, Bobdescribes his greatest baseball memory, April 1946 when he no hit the New York Yankees. Debut in the Major Leagues was 7/19/36 at the age of 17! Bob was a WWII combat Vet. 6. 1964 Topps Giants #49 Hank Aaron. Topps first postcard sized issue. Justa very slight amount of paper loss on the front, very strong back on this G-VG example. Glossy front with some very light creasing. On consignment. 7. 1961 Fleer Baseball Greats #1 checklist card with Baker, Cobb, and Wheatpictured on the card. Light scuffing on the front BUT the checklist on theback IS NOT MARKED! 8. 1965 Topps football (tall boys) starter set of 19 different cards! Creases, minor ink, and a few are hole punched. You also get nine of the short prints! =E2=9CTall Boy Fever=E2=9D CATCH IT! On consignment. 9. 1954 Topps baseball #139 the fun card that pictures both Ed & John O=E2=99Brien. Great colors! The front is off centered 0-100 left to right, but overall it=E2=99s a solid card. Since they are twins, the bio on the back lists only one birthdate, and only one height and weight. Topps does however list separate statistic lines for the twins. 10. Non Sports Special: 1978 Donruss Elvis full set of 66 cards with one unopened wax pack.! EX-Mint! Gurus Wauction cares about your health. PLEASE do not chew the gum! ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 21:43:00 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Fwd:_Bottom_of_the_9th_Coming_August_17th!?From: Gary Mandell Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Handelabra Games Inc. > Date: August 2, 2017 at 2:16:50 PM CDT > To: Gary > Subject: Bottom of the 9th Coming August 17th! > Reply-To: Handelabra Games Inc. > Bottom of the 9th coming August 17th! > View this email in your browser > Bottom of the 9th Coming August 17th! > Hey there rookie, you think you=E2=99ve got what it takes to step up to the majors? Well you=E2=99ll get your chance to prove it in just 2 short weeks - set your calendar for Thursday, August 17th! > Handelabra=E2=99s next game is finally coming to your phone, just in time for Gen Con! Bottom of the 9th is a baseball-themed tabletop game that combines cards & strategy with dice & action. We=E2=99ve been working with Dice Hate Me Games and Greater Than Games since January to bring the game into the digital world. > Bottom of the 9th puts you right into the most exciting moment in all of baseball. The visiting league leaders haven=E2=99t lost a game all year,and they were the heavy favorites going into today=E2=99s game. But thehome team have given them a run for their money and managed to keep the game all tied up right until the end. It=E2=99s the Bottom of the 9th, anda single run will propel the underdogs to a legendary victory. But the fight has cost them. They got nothin=E2=99 left! If the game goes to extra innings, the visitors have the experience and stamina to take the game for sure. What will you do? > Do you take control of the batting team, and lead the scrappy underdogs into > Or are you more of a =E2=9Cleague leader=E2=9D type, defending yourperfect > Either way, pop open your personal telephonic contraption on August 17th,and try your hand at some baseball action! > And don't forget to follow us on BOT9DIGITAL.com to stay updated! > Follow Us! > If you=E2=99d like to stay in the loop about what Handelabra Games hasto offer, follow us on Twitter or Facebook, join our mailing list, or watch our content on Twitch and YouTube. > Questions? Comments? Concerns? Wanna say hey? Contact us here. > Copyright =A9 2017 Handelabra Games Inc., All rights reserved. > You are receiving emails from Handelabra Games because you signed up at Handelabra.com, SentinelsDigital.com, or agreed to be added from one of our Apps. > Our mailing address is: > Handelabra Games Inc. > 50 Public Square, Suite 200 > Cleveland, OH 44113 > Add us to your address book > Want to change how you receive these emails? > You can update your preferences or unsubscribe from this list ================= Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 02:44:39 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Snack types from 70s Hostess by color and region From: Matthew Glidden Not to start people down a crazy path, BUT this thread discusses the variety of 70s Hostess-based sets by region and color. Anyone in OBC try to get all those full panel product combos? https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/909435/recognizing-1976-hostess-brown-back-variations ================= Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 22:50:02 -0400 To: smartalecx@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[OBC-Ramblings]_Fwd:_Bottom?From: I think this is the group that gave us some free/discount code player cardsThursday as the show let out Thursday. I passed them out at Mother Hubbards. Set of 6 cards, but we only had a single Cobb, so I was the only one who got a complete set. Most got 4 of the 6. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Gary Mandell smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Cc: Gary Mandell Sent: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 10:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: Bottom of the 9th Coming August 17th! Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Handelabra Games Inc. Date: August 2, 2017 at 2:16:50 PM CDT To: Gary Subject: Bottom of the 9th Coming August 17th! Reply-To: Handelabra Games Inc. The digital card and dice baseball game will soon be in the palm of your hand on August 17th! Bottom of the 9th coming August 17th! View this email in your browser Bottom of the 9th Coming August 17th! Hey there rookie, you think you=E2=99ve got what it takes to step up to the majors? Well you=E2=99ll get your chance to prove it in just 2 shortweeks - set your calendar for Thursday, August 17th! Handelabra=E2=99s next game is finally coming to your phone, just in time for Gen Con! Bottom of the 9th is a baseball-themed tabletop game that combines cards & strategy with dice & action. We=E2=99ve been working with Dice Hate Me Games and Greater Than Games since January to bring the game into the digital world. Bottom of the 9th puts you right into the most exciting moment in all of baseball. The visiting league leaders haven=E2=99t lost a game all year, and they were the heavy favorites going into today=E2=99s game. But the home team have given them a run for their money and managed to keep the gameall tied up right until the end. It=E2=99s the Bottom of the 9th, and asingle run will propel the underdogs to a legendary victory. But the fighthas cost them. They got nothin=E2=99 left! If the game goes to extra innings, the visitors have the experience and stamina to take the game for sure. What will you do? Do you take control of the batting team, and lead the scrappy underdogs into Or are you more of a =E2=9Cleague leader=E2=9D type, defending your perfect Either way, pop open your personal telephonic contraption on August 17th, and try your hand at some baseball action! And don't forget to follow us on BOT9DIGITAL.com to stay updated! Follow Us! If you=E2=99d like to stay in the loop about what Handelabra Games has to offer, follow us on Twitter or Facebook, join our mailing list, or watch our content on Twitch and YouTube. Questions? Comments? Concerns? Wanna say hey? Contact us here. Copyright =A9 2017 Handelabra Games Inc., All rights reserved. You are receiving emails from Handelabra Games because you signed up at Handelabra.com, SentinelsDigital.com, or agreed to be added from one of our Apps. Our mailing address is: Handelabra Games Inc. 50 Public Square, Suite 200 Cleveland, OH 44113 Add us to your address book Want to change how you receive these emails? You can update your preferences or unsubscribe from this list ================= To: Matthew Glidden Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 02:55:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Snack types from 70s Hostess by color and region From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 21:59:47 -0500 Subject: National keeps rambling From: "George Vrechek" Despite the several days of the National, it all went too fast for me and it is fun to read the reports about who got what and when. The theme is consistent that we enjoyed meeting the other guys and dealers and exchanging cardboard. It is a challenge to find those needles in the haystacks of so many tables. I didn't invest much time at tables without prices or cards in order. Looking for a bargain in a bin is fun but it takes away time you might spend more fruitfully elsewhere. On the other hand, you may spend less money that way. Sal's dealer list was helpful. There may be a few to add or subtract from the list for next year. I am putting stuff away at home. I was happy to pick up some duplicates to replenish my box. I see the cards in my dupe box more than cards squirreled away in completed sets and I hope I can match up some of the additions with needs of other OBCers. I have been expanding into oddball, but available, sets lately and have a few extra Hostess, Posts, OPeeChees and Sportscaster cards now. I think the most expensive card I bought at the National was $10. I bought about 1,000 cards and kept it under $450. I certainly wasn't going to make any progress on my "silly price" list with $10, but I picked up hundreds of Sportscasters for 10 cents, hockey cards for 25 cents, and plenty of stuff at Mike McCann's table for not a lot of money. I finally made progress on my 1962 and 1963 Fleer football sets. Sam Taylor killed off my 1961 Fleer set. I got 4 more cards for my T218 master set quest. Someplace late Saturday I lost my own variation book with all the checked boxes. I'll have to check all the right boxes again. Maybe it will turn up. Next, will be to get some mail out to guys I missed at the National or stuff I picked up that people might use. The process continues, and it continues to be fun. George Vrechek ================= Date: 03 Aug 2017 03:11:57 +0000 To: Subject: As if the National wasn't enough From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:24:31 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Gurus Wauction important Announcement From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Lot #2 has been withdrawn! 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #11 Mickey Mantle insert card. Collector grade card does have a bit of tape front and rear, and the expected chipping on the border is present. The OBC nickname for this set is =E2=9CGolden Uglies=E2=9D, and this card lives up to this name. It=E2=99s golden, and it=E2=99s Card has been misplaced? NO! Card deemed to be a fake? NO! Reason: I couldn=E2=99t remember how this card ended back in my dupes box. Then this AM I get the first bid on Lot#2 from Joe Denning. Joe places his bid, and states this will be a set killer! Now I remember how this card found it=E2=99s way to my doubles box! I pulled it as a handshake for Joe! But Joe and LaShelle were unable to attend the National due to Joe dealing with kidney stones, and Joe getting hit by a foul ball. Mark you set complete Joe because Mantle is on the way! Lot #2 has been withdrawn! ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:28:51 -0400 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gurus Wauction important Announcement From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Hmm, who got hit in the head by the foul ball??? Joe or the person who cannot remember he pulled a set killer for someone??? -----Original Message----- From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 3, 2017 8:24 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gurus Wauction important Announcement Lot #2 has been withdrawn! 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #11 Mickey Mantle insert card. Collector grade card does have a bit of tape front and rear, and the expected chipping on the border is present. The OBC nickname for this set is =E2=9CGolden Uglies=E2=9D, and this card lives up to this name. It=E2=99s golden, and it=E2=99s Card has been misplaced? NO! Card deemed to be a fake? NO! Reason: I couldn=E2=99t remember how this card ended back in my dupes box. Then this AM I get the first bid on Lot#2 from Joe Denning. Joe places his bid, and states this will be a set killer! Now I remember how this card found it=E2=99s way to my doubles box! I pulled it as a handshake for Joe! But Joe and LaShelle were unable to attend the National due to Joe dealing with kidney stones, and Joe getting hit by a foul ball. Mark you set complete Joe because Mantle is on the way! Lot #2 has been withdrawn! ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:24:59 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Vintage Hockey Hall of Fame Giveaway! From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, I have these three cards sitting in my dupes box and I'm sure these can help some people.... 1971-72 Topps #1 (Esposito/Bucyk/Hull)1972-73 Topps #127 Dryden AS1973-74 Topps #72 Lafleur Provide address. Thanks! ================= Date: 03 Aug 2017 14:32:58 +0000 To: Subject: My OBC National Summary Ramble From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:24:13 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: 6-count and 8-count page swap? From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, seeking some 6-counts for my new Fleer tall oddballs and 8-count for 1952. Anyone have a couple dozen I can swap for? Happy to trade 4-count or cards. ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 13:31:12 -0400 To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 6-count and 8-count page swap? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Do you need 2 dz of ea? Any chance you have any 2 count pages? I need those even more than 4 count, although I have been going through those as well. The 6 count also work well for matchbook covers. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 3, 2017 1:25 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 6-count and 8-count page swap? Hi all, seeking some 6-counts for my new Fleer tall oddballs and 8-count for 1952. Anyone have a couple dozen I can swap for? Happy to trade 4-count or ================= Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 13:40:38 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 6-count and 8-count page swap? From: Ken M Spike,  Let me check when I get home. I bought a box of 6-ct. last year for the Fleer tallboys. I'll bring them by with your chair if I can find them. (LMK when's a good day/time to deliver that). Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Aug 3, 2017 1:24 PMTo: obc ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 6-count and 8-count page swap? Hi all, seeking some 6-counts for my new Fleer tall oddballs and 8-count for 1952. Anyone have a couple dozen I can swap for? Happy to trade 4-count or cards. ================= Date: 03 Aug 2017 19:29:39 +0000 To: Subject: Site down? From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= To: , Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 15:31:42 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Site down? From: "Bob Donaldson" Yes, but I can go to my wantlist http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/bdonaldson.htm From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 3:30 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Site down? Hey gang, I was going to log on and do some post-National updating. However, when I try and go to the directory, I am getting a screen saying site is temporarily unavailable. ANyone else seeing this? ================= Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 15:38:35 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Clemente is in the house From: JDahms ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 21:40:14 +0200 (CEST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Donaldson Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Site down? From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 I am unable to get to my wantlist with the shortcut I have saved. I get a different error message saying "page not found" I will wait it out for Wayne to do his magic. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On August 3, 2017 at 9:31 PM Bob Donaldson wrote: > Yes, but I can go to my wantlist http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/bdonaldson.htm > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 3:30 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Site down? > Hey gang, > I was going to log on and do some post-National updating. However, when I try and go to the directory, I am getting a screen saying site is temporarily unavailable. ANyone else seeing this? > TJ ================= Date: 03 Aug 2017 20:11:50 +0000 To: Subject: More post-National waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 20:22:53 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Where'd the OBC web site go? From: Wayne Delia The OBC website is temporarily unavailable today, and you'll see a familiar "Error 404" message if you try to load it. At about 2PM on August 3, 2017, I received an email from Network Solutions (our internet service provider) with the following alert message: "Your hosting account 017DF94.NETSOLHOST.COM was sending a high volume of emails through one or more FormMail scripts on your account (ex: CGI/Perl, PHP or ASP)." Apparently, we've been hacked, and somebody is using our account to launch a lot of emails somewhere. To address that problem, Network Solutions has temporarily suspended our website. I contacted Network Solutions technical support, and we located a spam script in the root directory that was loaded with URL links to cheap pharmaceutical supplies. I deleted the spam script, searched the entire OBC web site for any other possible files of the same name, found none, and replied to the email from the NS system administration. The alert message said we would probably get service restored within 24 to 48 hours, but I've asked them to escalate the In the meantime, I can verify that all files hosted on the OBC website remain in place. I've backed up the website, so I have the current copies of all want lists stored on the server. For very critical situations (i.e. you're going to a card show this weekend), I can send you a text copy of your want list if it's on the server. If your web site is managed by another internet service provider, you should be OK if you can access your list directly. If we're not up and running by Saturday night, I'll escalate the problem ticket even higher. ================= To: Wayne Delia Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 00:25:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Where'd the OBC web site go? From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: OBC National , Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 01:21:55 +0000 Subject: National Summary From: Taylor Schock Ramble on... A bit on the late side, but with excuses. First my worst 2 pickups at the National. Spike and Guru were there for the first, (or it may have been thesecond) with a nice pot-hole hit Sunday morning on the way to the show (see pic). Didn't notice it until it felt weebly-wobbly on the highway dropping off Spike and Guru at the airport so went to Firestone where they pulled the wheel and showed what I had on the inside. Since it was Sunday, they were open but no 'parts' (or salvage yards) open. Maybe Monday, maybe Tuesdayhe said. Screw it. On goes the donut and 800 miles later (with various calls to salvage yards on the way) with an ADDITIONAL 4 hours of driving 55 orunder, we hit paydirt about 25 minutes from home. So new rim is in place. Bad luck, but the bright side Brian, is that we weren't stranded by the side of the road with luggage for 3 or flipped over in a ditch somewhere. The second (or maybe the first), I picked up something there that I would almost swear was the flu. Started with a scratchy throat and by the time I got home Monday night, I was feeling like crap and was for a couple of days.Not 100% yet but definitely better. Still.... well worth the time spent at the National with the best OBC turnout Left last Sunday, and was in Charleston WV a bit before 1 PM. Power game at2:05. Sure, why not. After a couple of antique store stops (nada), went tothe game, pulled into the lot, waiting (when I didn't have to) for a couple of ladies to back into their space. They thanked me and we started chatting, thinking I was a 'homie' and they were there for the Lexington Legends,as they were one of the players 'sponsors'. They had an extra ticket at will-call, which they offered to me for free. Warm, but not overly hot. If there were 100 people there, I would have been surprised. Probably more staffthan customers. Nice relaxing time though. Monday, drove more, stopped more, still nothing worth until the last non-advertised store. 2 binders of 40 (mostly) actress exhibits for $40 each, minus their regular 15% discount for cash (and over some amount). Asked if theseller would consider $30 apiece if I took them both. After a text and a call (while I wandered to another store) it was a deal. Also stopped at a card store in Indy (Indy Card Exchange), and found out the owner (Andy Albert) was setup at the National. Talked for a while, picked up a few cards, he cut some off the total. Decent vintage selection, nice store, great guy. Talked with him at the show for a bit too. Tuesday got into Rosemont, taking about 1 hour to go the last 8 miles, checked in at the Motel 6 (the light was NOT on) and walked down to the show. Went to will-call to pick up badges, couldn't find them. Then Amy (I believe) said "Wes didn't leave anything here for you. Here's a badge to get in. Just leave drop it off when you leave." So I go in and Wes asked how I got in. I told him that Amy said to thank him for not having to walk all the wayto the front (Spike knows the walk). Looked around the show, getting the lay of the land, bought 1 card for a few bucks. Wednesday, got up, packed up the car so I could fit my Uber fares from the airport (Spike and Guru), went direct to the show. None of this taking timeout to check in business. No real plan (other than hitting all the tables)and just sort of meandered about checking off stuff on my map. Don't thinkI bought too much that day. Show over, went back, checked in, went to Outback attached to the hotel, where SAM Hack picked up the tab. Thanks, Sam! Chilled out in the hotel, checked off some stuff (handshakes and buys). Yacked it up a bit, crashed. Thursday. Basically more of the same, though probably bought a bit more andstarted scratching off tables on the map. Marked some with return later. More handshakes, more buys. Dinner sitting outside the Hofbrau Haus listening to Van Halen tribute band (Spike, Guru, Bob Bannon, myself). Apologies for begging off the downtown trip, but I knew from previous years I would be wiped, and ended up a good thing as I was having swelling issues. Getting old sucks. Kids, just say no! Friday always seems to be my low day. Underfunded, overpriced, and overwhelmed. But after my daily 'outside lunch by the water fountain', I was feeling better and back on the upswing hitting the floor with a vengence. I really had no plan going in, and no specific focus, but it morphed into picking up Exhibits. Found some team cards (and got 1 from Talbot), so only 2 of those left. Picked up a nice stack from Gerry's table with a very generous discount. Cool. Bought more cards (of course). More handshakes (of course). More bird-dogging. I think Sam and I were finding stuff for each other, though not sure if the other always got what was found. Hey Sam, I ended up getting the Feller pic and Gehringer Detroit Sunday Times insert. Net 54 'dinner' that night. We originally were going to eat first, but decided to just go the the 'dinner'. Good enough snacks and pizza and of course, free drinks. Thanks for being the DD, Guru. Met more cool guys and even had an "Exhibits" con-fab table discussion going on with some fellow Exhibits 'enthusiasts'. It seems like each year I am less enthused about the 'cards' and more about all the great people you meet. (assuming a couple of dealers aren't almost coming to blows). After a number of Gin and Tonics and my reverse Uber back to the hotel, updating the list, finding out again that I bought NOTHING that was given as a handshake, crashed out. (that doesn't mean that I didn't by 2 of the same card, from the same dealer, at the same time. I did.) Saturday. Scramble day. Finish up the tables (got behind 'schedule' this year). Go back. Manu auto gone. Manu auto gone. Manu auto gone. Geez. One would think it was a Troy Polamalu auto card I was trying to find. Snooze you lose. Picked up more Exhibits. Picked up a bunch of other cards (of course). Ed (not Jason) handshake did not happen on my end. *sad face* and will find something. Spent the last hour at Bagger's Auction table picking up non-sports cards. VERY good prices for what I got. But I did have to listen to Dave's ramble (hey, you don't have to READ this if you don't want to) abouteach card/set when I asked for a price. Dude! Just tell me what you WANT FOR THE CARDS! Seriously though, a VERY nice guy and easy to work with. (it wouldn't have bothered me as much if they hadn't already turned out the lights). Off to the swap. Great fun. Almost got thrown out or maybe they were going to call the police. Found more cards. Left off some stuff that peoplewanted, some they probably didn't. Always the highlight of the show, even if I'm exhausted by then. Sunday. Pack up. Play Uber to the show. Pothole incident of 2017. Buy a fewmore things at the show (not much, except for about 1000 Pokemon cards for$20). Drop off my Uber fare at the airport, then my real fun began. Monday. Driving. Tuesday. Driving (12 hours in the car), but I ain't staying overnight in a hotel again. Summary (like you read this far): Decent show. No super, blow-your-socks-off finds. Went expecting to find 1 or 2 Yuenglings, but JD himself had 8 alone (I believe). TWO Cobbs and a Gehrig at the show, and a bunch others. Too many that ended up not buying any. Best deals. 1960 Mantle, 1963 Mantle, 1953 Bowman Reese (all trimmed but otherwise gorgeous, $40 each). Picked up a Fatima Philadelphia Nationals (my first). Trimmed E120 Frisch, Baker, Youngs for $10 each. A few other '30s HOF cards for the $10-$20 range. Finished the '69 MB set. '67 MB Namath for $1 (and some nice '53 Bowman for $1 each from the same guy). The Feller andthe Geringher inserts ($20 each). And some nice non-sports from Dave Schrader at Bagger's for $1-$2 each, including unpunched Laugh-In cards for $1.50 each (I bought all he had). If you read this far, what are your National plans for 2018? Have your roomreserved ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 21:33:16 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: OBCer pictured in article From: smartalecx@aol.com it ain't me! Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2017 22:11:24 -0400 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National Report Day 5 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com It seems that many of us have covered the more recent, basic sets and we need to keep an eye out for the odd balls, However, I have restricted my wantlist expansion to sports cards rather than non-sport and hence picked up a bunch of Sportscaster cards to really get off into the fringe sports. I could not agree more! Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings ; larrytipton Sent: Mon, Jul 31, 2017 11:55 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National Report Day 5 Pretty great that you still had the initiative to find some stuff the last day. I imagine your eyes start to glaze over, but the opportunity doesn=E2=99t come around very often. It does seem economical (theoretically) to buy in bulk. I bought a bunch of exhibits for $1.25 each and found several black and white or sepia variations that I didn=E2=99t have, plus a few upgrades and stuff for the dup book. I probably see more of my dup box than any other cards, and I keep trying to have some stuff of interest for OBCers. It seems that many of us have covered the more recent, basic sets and we need to keep an eye out for the odd balls, However, I have restricted my wantlist expansion to sports cards rather than non-sport and hence picked up a bunch of Sportscaster cards to really get off into the fringe sports. ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 08:12:37 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Clemente is in the house From: Glenn Codere Nice job, JD!! On Thursday, August 3, 2017, 8:38:49 PM GMT+1, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: 1956 Bob Clemente to be precise I went to the national with one specific goal. To find the last card for my5y topps set. Bob Clementein my very cheap price range of under 45 bucks. Very quickly it became obvious to me that it was just a pipe dream as everyone I saw was in to nice of shape. Major bummer I was not to be deterred though so while i was waitimg for mark talbot and ron perry to finosh there browsing I got on my phone and dialed up ebay andproceeded to to scour there pahe's for likely candidates. Finding a few they went to the watch page. My clemente arrived last night. Got it for my price with shipping. Woo hoo! So in plain terms. My 1956 base set is done. Now those pesky back colors Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: 04 Aug 2017 16:26:19 +0000 To: Subject: National: Just the Cards From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 09:29:42 -0700 Subject: Bruce Gainer- A Canadian Football Card Story From: "Grant Rainsley" To set the stage, a group of us guys get together every Wednesday afternoonat the Powell River Legion for a couple of beers and a whole lot of laughs. Tough, heartless crowd. Vicious in a fun sort of way. We slowly gather new guys that one of us thinks will fit in, usually one here, one there=E2=A6=E2=A6there are now about 8-10 of us who meet regularly depending on who is available=E2=A6=E2=A6..most of us, usually. A couple of months ago, one of the guys introduced a chap he had met at thegym that he had invited to join us=E2=A6=E2=A6..his name was Bruce Gainer. I immediately did a double-take=E2=A6=E2=A6..he was about 6=E2=992, 210 pounds of all muscle, my age (late 60=E2=99s) and a very quiet sort. When there was an infrequent lull in the chatter, I asked =E2=9DDid you play football for the Saskatchewan Roughriders?=E2=9D He looked shocked, said that he did, for three years, 1970-1973. He was amazed that I knew who he was, but I wasn=E2=99t, since I have been a CFL freak since about 1960. We had a great chat about the CFL, and during the conversation the talk turned to memorabilia. He thought he had a couple of cards issued back in the day, but in reality he only had one OPC stamp (1970-71) and a Gulf Oil Riders Team issue B&W photo, a very tough Regional. He didn=E2=99t keep any for himself, and regretted that very much. I knew I didn=E2=99t have either one, but I determined right then to start hunting.. Slight deviation for a moment=E2=A6=E2=A6.about a year ago a buddy ofmine who is a huge Riders fan sent me a stuffed mascot of =E2=9CGainer the Gopher,=E2=9D the team mascot, just to jack me up about an upcomingRiders/BC Lions game. (My Lions kicked their butts.) Gainer the Gopher wasnot named after Bruce, but he thought it was. (Concussions over the years still run his life.) Gainer is actually an anagram of Regina, where the Riders play. SO I gave Gainer the Gopher in a Riders uni to a buddy to give to Bruce the next time he saw him at the gym. He was delighted to have it, and he sent me an auto=E2=99d team picture from the day. Nice. But I got to wondering about those issues=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6I located the OPC stamp on COMC, and Greg Henthorn kindly picked it up for me and sent it here =E2=A6=E2=A6..thanks Greg for being part of this conspiracy! I have been sitting on it for about a month waiting for Bruce to attend another of our Legion Summit Meetings=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6it was last Wednesday. All the guys (except Bruce) and their wives knew what was happening=E2=A6=E2=A6..the ladies were not about to be left out of this, so several of them crashed the party just to watch. I had put the card inthe only fancy slab that I had, and sealed it in an envelope, marked =E2=9CBruce G.=E2=9D At the appropriate reasonably quiet moment, I handed the envelope to the chap next to me and said =E2=9CIs this yours?=E2=9D (They were all in on this). He said no, and passed it along, saying maybe it=E2=99s yours? It made the rounds of the table, with Bruce beingthe last one in line. It was fun watching his puzzlement as the envelope was passed from person to person. He had no clue as to what was happening=E2=A6.. It ended up in his mitts and he saw the =E2=9CBruce G.=E2=9D and said=E2=9CWhat the HELL????=E2=9D He cracked it open, pulled out the slab, and literally stared open-mouthed at it for at least 30 seconds. His eyes also welled with tears a bit=E2=A6=E2=A6..(big tough defensive lineman/long Earlier I mentioned that Bruce was on the quiet side=E2=A6=E2=A6actually quite reserved would be a better descriptor. Now, like a switch had been flipped into the =E2=9CON=E2=9D position, memories started floodingback, and he held court for at least 10 minutes and he had the entire table dead quiet, just listening to him ramble. He went on about how tight thatteam was (this was the era of Ron Lancaster and George Reed, a true Canadian football dynasty.) One of the stories that struck me was one day after practice he brushed by a kid looking for autographs around 1970. The legendary George Reed pulled him aside and told him NEVER to do that again=E2=A6=E2=A6..the kids look up to you, it is the least you can do. He said he never turned another kid away=E2=A6=E2=A6..Reed was very well known for holding up the team bus, because if there were people looking for an auto, he stayed until the line was finished. As our session broke up, I had a minute to chat with Bruce=E2=99s wife Margy=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.she said =E2=9CI=E2=99ve been married to that man for a long long time, and he said things there that he has never told me about.=E2=9D All in all a really good day=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6got my Brooks Robby RC in the morning mail, and participated in =E2=9CBruce Gainer Day=E2=9D in the afternoon. Now I gotta find that damned Gulf Oil Regional=E2=A6=E2=A6gonna be tough. This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= To: , Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:28:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National: Just the Cards From: "Bob Donaldson" I wrote a little program that will turn have lists to want lists. Feel free to send me your have lists (numbers only) and I can convert them From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 12:26 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National: Just the Cards In case people aren't sick of reading about the National yet (I always lived vicariously through these reports and was sad when they petered out), here is a more concise ramble about the cards I obtained. Best hit, as aforementioned: 1948 Bowman Yogi Berra. Thanks, Pelletier and Friday, I bought 1953 Bowman Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra + 52 Bowman Rizzutofor $62. All three are decent cards and the Whitey especially looks very nice, poor centering but a beaut. Saturday I did a splurge and got a stack, very OBC for the most part, but the priciest among them looked the nicest: 1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams, intact. I spend most of my baseball money on Bowmans (or sneak attacks), but the Williams was a steal when lumped in with the rest. I think there were 20-25 cards in the pile, including 62 Mays, 61 and 62 Berra, three more Ellie Howards for my new HOMer collection, six of those peskily expensive Team Cards form 57 and 58, and some lesser stars and medium hi #'s I needed. Doug Dejong gets the assist for finding and calling my attention to the nice Williams in a box with two others that were more Tipton grading material. Look under your thumb, Doug. I didn't have my best experience of the National at Uncle Dick's booth, spending more than I should have for less than I could have gotten elsewhere. Live and learn. I did walk away with 53 Bowman Early Wynn and Richie Ashburn, a 52 Bowman Feller, and around a dozen Bowman commons from 49-55. I grabbed a couple of beater pre-wars for the swap, as well. I returned to the same spot I'd bought the Whitey, Berra & Rizzuto and got a 55 Bowman Aaron at a great discount. I also got a sweet (EX+ or even EX-MT) 55B Elston Howard...and then discovered I'd already gotten one but failed to check it off. Anybody else do that? Finally I returned to our friend Kurt's table and he gave me a great deal on a 55 Bowman Ernie Banks. That's when Doug gave me his second assist of the day, finding the last two for my Deckle Edge set, my one kill of the weekend. I did hunt, not exhaustively but with some effort, for the 73 Schmidt rookie and came up either blank or out of my price range. I could have landed one for $60, which was the closest, but truthfully I'd much rather have those three early 50's Bowman Yankees for that money and have that set sit at one for another year. I felt conscious the whole National that this was my one shot and who knows when the next one will be? Hoping for Cleveland next year, because I'm always hopeful. I'd hoped to make more progress on my 1969 Topps (like maybe kill it), but I did bring that wantlist down from 57 to 34. Most of the remaining cards are lower priced stars or commons, I just didn't focus hard enough/go outside of working through the cheaper boxes to find them. Once the OBC site isup again, several sets will be flipped from Have Lists to Wantlists--who had the cool trick to change those easily?--including 55 Bowman, 61 Topps (with BIG help from a Greg Miller box), and 67 Topps...or maybe that one still has a few to go for halfway. Biggest progress for the weekend was the 55 Bowman set and, of course, the oodles of 78's I got for the Quest. I'm estimating I added about 200 cards, not counting 78's, to my collection and a whole lot to the dupes box. Besides the 73 Schmidt, I'd hoped to make more progress on my 65 Embossed set (I probably added 5 or so) and get a glimpse of the 78 Zests for my Quest. But there was only so much time. If I get a next time, I will search more before I settle in anywhere. Doug Dejong and I were discussing how much more satisfied we feel when we spend a lot on a big hit star card than on a pile of commons. I'll rememberthat for next time. Still tallying how much fun it was and how many friendships started or deepened. But this one is just the cards. Peace and joy, OBC, ================= To: "'Grant Rainsley'" , Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 12:43:09 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Bruce Gainer- A Canadian Football Card Story From: "Bob Donaldson" From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 12:30 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Bruce Gainer- A Canadian Football Card Story To set the stage, a group of us guys get together every Wednesday afternoonat the Powell River Legion for a couple of beers and a whole lot of laughs. Tough, heartless crowd. Vicious in a fun sort of way. We slowly gather new guys that one of us thinks will fit in, usually one here, one there=E2=A6=E2=A6there are now about 8-10 of us who meet regularly depending on who is available=E2=A6=E2=A6..most of us, usually. A couple of months ago, one of the guys introduced a chap he had met at thegym that he had invited to join us=E2=A6=E2=A6..his name was Bruce Gainer. I immediately did a double-take=E2=A6=E2=A6..he was about 6=E2=992, 210 pounds of all muscle, my age (late 60=E2=99s) and a very quiet sort. When there was an infrequent lull in the chatter, I asked =E2=9DDid you play football for the Saskatchewan Roughriders?=E2=9D He looked shocked, said that he did, for three years, 1970-1973. He was amazed that I knew who he was, but I wasn=E2=99t, since I have been a CFL freak since about 1960. We had a great chat about the CFL, and during the conversation the talk turned to memorabilia. He thought he had a couple of cards issued back in the day, but in reality he only had one OPC stamp (1970-71) and a Gulf Oil Riders Team issue B&W photo, a very tough Regional. He didn=E2=99t keep any for himself, and regretted that very much. I knew I didn=E2=99t have either one, but I determined right then to start hunting.. Slight deviation for a moment=E2=A6=E2=A6.about a year ago a buddy ofmine who is a huge Riders fan sent me a stuffed mascot of =E2=9CGainer the Gopher,=E2=9D the team mascot, just to jack me up about an upcomingRiders/BC Lions game. (My Lions kicked their butts.) Gainer the Gopher wasnot named after Bruce, but he thought it was. (Concussions over the years still run his life.) Gainer is actually an anagram of Regina, where the Riders play. SO I gave Gainer the Gopher in a Riders uni to a buddy to give to Bruce the next time he saw him at the gym. He was delighted to have it, and he sent me an auto=E2=99d team picture from the day. Nice. But I got to wondering about those issues=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6I located the OPC stamp on COMC, and Greg Henthorn kindly picked it up for me and sent it here =E2=A6=E2=A6..thanks Greg for being part of this conspiracy! I have been sitting on it for about a month waiting for Bruce to attend another of our Legion Summit Meetings=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6it was last Wednesday. All the guys (except Bruce) and their wives knew what was happening=E2=A6=E2=A6..the ladies were not about to be left out of this, so several of them crashed the party just to watch. I had put the card inthe only fancy slab that I had, and sealed it in an envelope, marked =E2=9CBruce G.=E2=9D At the appropriate reasonably quiet moment, I handed the envelope to the chap next to me and said =E2=9CIs this yours?=E2=9D (They were all in on this). He said no, and passed it along, saying maybe it=E2=99s yours? It made the rounds of the table, with Bruce beingthe last one in line. It was fun watching his puzzlement as the envelope was passed from person to person. He had no clue as to what was happening=E2=A6.. It ended up in his mitts and he saw the =E2=9CBruce G.=E2=9D and said=E2=9CWhat the HELL????=E2=9D He cracked it open, pulled out the slab, and literally stared open-mouthed at it for at least 30 seconds. His eyes also welled with tears a bit=E2=A6=E2=A6..(big tough defensive lineman/long Earlier I mentioned that Bruce was on the quiet side=E2=A6=E2=A6actually quite reserved would be a better descriptor. Now, like a switch had been flipped into the =E2=9CON=E2=9D position, memories started floodingback, and he held court for at least 10 minutes and he had the entire table dead quiet, just listening to him ramble. He went on about how tight thatteam was (this was the era of Ron Lancaster and George Reed, a true Canadian football dynasty.) One of the stories that struck me was one day after practice he brushed by a kid looking for autographs around 1970. The legendary George Reed pulled him aside and told him NEVER to do that again=E2=A6=E2=A6..the kids look up to you, it is the least you can do. He said he never turned another kid away=E2=A6=E2=A6..Reed was very well known for holding up the team bus, because if there were people looking for an auto, he stayed until the line was finished. As our session broke up, I had a minute to chat with Bruce=E2=99s wife Margy=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.she said =E2=9CI=E2=99ve been married to that man for a long long time, and he said things there that he has never told me about.=E2=9D All in all a really good day=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6got my Brooks Robby RC in the morning mail, and participated in =E2=9CBruce Gainer Day=E2=9D in the afternoon. Now I gotta find that damned Gulf Oil Regional=E2=A6=E2=A6gonna be tough. Virus-free. ================= Date: 04 Aug 2017 17:09:57 +0000 To: Subject: EBTH auction featuring Cardinal items From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 04 Aug 2017 19:05:57 +0000 To: Subject: BACK ONLINE From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:16:33 +0200 (CEST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] BACK ONLINE From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 HUGE Thanks to you guys! Thank you. Can you imagine if this happened last week? I still bring a hard copy of my wantlist, and I think most people I saw at the National do as well. Thanks Wayne and Joe! T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On August 4, 2017 at 9:05 PM "mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Thanks, Wayne Delia, Joe Isaacs, and anyone else who helped us get back in business again! Good to see the ol' wantlist. > Blessings on your heads, computer guys, > Mike ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:01:24 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ed Schott From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hey Ed, I have Some Orioles for you Send me you address as the OBC site is still down Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: 04 Aug 2017 20:05:31 +0000 To: Subject: Down again? From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:37:57 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re Gurus Wauction From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Due to problems with our website, the closing of Auction #10 has been extended. Once everyone is able to access their wantlist, I will set the new closing date and advise. Bidding has been quite spirited with lot #1 (1967 Topps Mantle) getting 16 big Lot #7 (1961 Fleer #1) and lot #10 (1978 Donruss Elvis set with wax pack) have the least number of bids with 6. Reminder Lot #2 has been withdrawn. Gurus Wauctions ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:44:30 -0700 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re Gurus Wauction From: Rick Can I put in for the mantle even if I have it? It could be an upgrade or maybe it would push me to start a second set. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:37 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Due to problems with our website, the closing of Auction #10 has been extended. Once everyone is able to access their wantlist, I will set the new closing date and advise. > Bidding has been quite spirited with lot #1 (1967 Topps Mantle) getting 16 big bids! > Lot #7 (1961 Fleer #1) and lot #10 (1978 Donruss Elvis set with wax pack)have the least number of bids with 6. > Reminder Lot #2 has been withdrawn. > Gurus Wauctions ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:47:36 -0700 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re Gurus Wauction From: Rick Also the OBC site seems to work for me I can pull up people's wantlist and I just accessed the address page also. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Can I put in for the mantle even if I have it? It could be an upgrade or maybe it would push me to start a second set. > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 4, 2017, at 1:37 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Due to problems with our website, the closing of Auction #10 has been extended. Once everyone is able to access their wantlist, I will set the new closing date and advise. >> Bidding has been quite spirited with lot #1 (1967 Topps Mantle) getting 16 big bids! >> Lot #7 (1961 Fleer #1) and lot #10 (1978 Donruss Elvis set with wax pack) have the least number of bids with 6. >> Reminder Lot #2 has been withdrawn. >> Gurus Wauctions ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:05:51 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Website almost back up... From: Wayne Delia The main page for the OBC website is loading OK now, but there are still a few glitches to iron out. We apparently lost access to the MySQL database where all of our directory information is kept. I'm working the issue with Network Solutions technical support. So, bear with us for a few more hours until we'll get this sorted out. ================= Date: 04 Aug 2017 21:35:26 +0000 To: Subject: Has anyone ever considered an OBC PSA membership? From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:39:06 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Has anyone ever considered an OBC PSA From: Mike Glasser Hi Ed: I'm not an expert by any means regarding PSA but I do have a membership andgrade about 12 cards per year. Would that cause issues in terms of who the card is registered to? Does that even matter? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 4, 2017 5:35 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Has anyone ever considered an OBC PSA membership? I know a lot of us (myself included) are not usually sticklers for condition- but I have started grading a few things, especially my pre-war HOFers. Right now I have to piggyback on PSA submissions from Net54 or facebook groups- so I wanted to raise the question- has purchasing an OBC PSA membershipever been discussed? If there was interest, the interested members could split the cost evenly, and then be able to do submissions. Not sure if this has been discussed (I dont recall seeing a thread) but I was curious- and interested. ================= To: Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 16:53:18 -0500 Subject: Re: National: Just the Cards From: "George Vrechek" Mike's Uncle Dick experience of spending more and getting less. I would say the same that Uncle Dick's prices, given the condition of the cards, aren't all that attractive. However, he does wind up with stuff we need. He isn't my first stop. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 17:57:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National: Just the Cards From: Ed Hutchinson I used to stop at Uncle Dick's all the time- now, I tend to skip him in favor of Kurt's table instead On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 5:53 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Mike=E2=99s Uncle Dick experience of spending more and getting less. > I would say the same that Uncle Dick=E2=99s prices, given the condition of the > cards, aren=E2=99t all that attractive. However, he does wind up with stuff > need. He isn=E2=99t my first stop. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 18:06:24 -0400 To: Ed Hutchinson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National: Just the Cards From: Jimi Thayer I've never been able to buy off of Uncle Dick's table. I always wondered how you guys found stuff on his table at good prices because I've found his to be very overpriced. I took another look at Strongsville and he was selling similar stuff as my table for twice the price. I wanted to put a giantsign on my table that said "Mine are cheaper!" LOL....but I wouldn't do that :). Like Ed said....go to Kurt! Same stuff...much cheaper. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:57 PM, Ed Hutchinson jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I used to stop at Uncle Dick's all the time- now, I tend to skip him in favor of Kurt's table instead >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 5:53 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Mike=E2=99s Uncle Dick experience of spending more and getting less. >> I would say the same that Uncle Dick=E2=99s prices, given the condition of the cards, aren=E2=99t all that attractive. However, he does wind up with stuff we need. He isn=E2=99t my first stop. >> George Vrechek ================= Date: 04 Aug 2017 22:09:50 +0000 To: Subject: 1st ramble back, god bless the web guys From: daveluciano@mac.com ================= Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 02:48:16 +0000 Subject: National thanks From: richard dingman Finally got home, driving from Chicago to central MA and stopping to work here and there along the way. "My, Winona, that's a long trek." If you can identify that quote you are a true New Englander. I believe I have organized my thanks with minimal errors, but lmk if I leftyou out, and my apologies: Thanks are due for handshakes at the show to: Kent Goto =96 1962 #26 Jim Bunning. BB =96 2 Red Mans, 1 mc and a Topps 2010 Baseball series 2 pack. Gary Mandell =96 a 1975 Topps Jim Palmer miscut. Geno =96 2 sharp hi # hits for my 1970 2nd set, and a Martin Light Bomber USAF Mike R-W =96 4 mc including a 1955 Bowman Shuba. Mike Rich =96 2 sharp 1970 Topps high #s for my 2nd set including a minor printer error, and a sharp 1972 high # for my 3rd set. Joe Adriance =96 2 hits for my 1959 Ted Williams set, which I did not hit at all otherwise during the whole show. Doug DeJong =96 3 miscuts, including 2 crisp 1955s, one of which is miscut on 2 sides (love it!), and a 1967 miscut and a 2016 Asheville Tourists schedule. Mike Mackie =96 a 1972 baseball miscut and a 1974 basketball miscut. Tom =96 a 1969 miscut and 2 1970 miscuts. TJ =96 3 miscuts from 1968, 1971 and 1974, plus 5 Look =91n See at the swap. Sam Taylor =96 6 absolutely gorgeous Dick Tracy Caramels that are so sharp and clean I wonder that they must be reprints, and a Davy Crockett orange back. Love these old non-sports! Plus a well-appreciated dental kit handout at the swap including toothbrush, toothpaste, and mouth rinse. I can definitely always use these. Ron Perry =96 2 1973 miscuts. Sal =96 2 1975 miscuts for my 1975 entirely miscut binder (wantlist coming soon to my webpage), and 2 1959 Ted Williams hits, as well as 2 eminemtly collectible Sal Domino 25 year anniversary OBC cards in uncharacteristicallynon-OBC (i.e., Mint) condition. JD =96 4 apparently freshly minted 1972 high numbers that will either be for my 2nd set or likely upgrades for my 1st set. Spike =96 Spike sends me one maybe out of his #5 collection, a 1962 Post #5which just happens to be the Mick. Wow! Now I imagine I may even finish this set someday. Steve Rittenberg =96 Steve gave me a handshake envelope on Monday, and thenadded to it on Tuesday, and again on Wednesday, and every day after. In addition he bird-dogged several cards for me almost every day. He may know more about my wantlist than I do, and I am sure he spends more time lookingto hit every OBCers=92 wantlists than he does looking for cards for himself. There may be a more generous OBCer out there, there certainly are many very generous folks in our group, but Steve is right up there at the top ofthe list. In addition to all the cards he found for me during the show and cards he let me nab out of his dupe boxes and binders (which were many), his handshake included a =9233 Goudey Goose Goslin, 2 =9249 Bowman high #s,a 1951 Hit parade miscut, 11 miscuts including a 1955 and 5 1975s, 2 Scratch Offs that are miscut, a Jets non-sport miscut, a War News Pictures miscut, 11 Uncle Sam Soldier hits, 7 Jets, Rockets, Spacemen hits, and a War Gumcard. George Vrechek =96 a =9268, a =9266 and a =9274 miscut, plus a =9273 Frisella broken border, and 4 printing differences from1960 =96 1974. Mac Wubben =96 1 2017 Tigers schedule, 2 Fish, a =9259 Ted Williams, and 4 1971 for my 2nd set. Ken Morganti =96 11 miscut including 2 from 1975. Guru =96 14 Jets, Rockets, Spacemen. Love these! Taylor Schock =96 1 Fish, 1 Wild West Gum, 3 1975 miscuts, 16 other miscutsand 2 1968 Milton Bradleys, perhaps from his big score last year. Nick P =96 10 miscuts including 2 1975s. Gersh =96 a crisp 1953 Bowman B&W Steve Gromek. Hopefully more to follow about the show once the mental fog clears, but first more work to slog through. Very best to all for a great summer! Richard D ================= Date: 05 Aug 2017 06:05:00 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National: Just the Cards From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 16:02:19 +0000 Subject: A few national availables From: Mac Wubben Picked up some dupes at the national...who needs them: 54 Bowman: 40 115 127 139 (791po) 167 211 216 (968 f.a) 58 Topps: 22 23 27 44 65 68 106 116 119 129 139 144 154 169 171 181 184 186188 189 195 200 203 208 218 231 234 235 236 253 257 264 293 299 315 336 339 342 345 347 349 354 355 358 365 367 388 409 468 470 Let me know, ================= Date: 05 Aug 2017 18:06:52 +0000 To: Subject: Trade Bait From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:19:42 -0400 Subject: UNCLE DICK: THUMBS UP from Baltimore From: ED SCHOTT I have a very different outlook and have always had good if not excellent experiences with him and his son. (I would not say the same however for the MRS.) Its not always about the money for me. They always treat me as a preferred customer and the prices are just as good as most others. (He always knocks a few dollars off of my Yes I love Kurt and Mike and maybe Ive dealt with Uncle Dick more often. Hes always at the Philly and Chantilly shows that I attend and treats me like an old friend. Yes its a business but I consider him a gentleman of the hobby and will always seek him out To those of you who have not dealt with U.D. ...I highly recommend him ================= Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:42:29 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] UNCLE DICK: THUMBS UP from Baltimore From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en I have never dealt with anyone that everyone in this group knows. Except Uncle Dick. Once through email and once at the show near Valley Forge. I forgot what that was called. A very good guy. It was nice to buy some stuff from a very nice guy. And like with Ed, he knocked a few bucks off. In a message dated 8/5/2017 11:19:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I have a very different outlook and have always had good if not excellent experiences with him and his son. (I would not say the same however for the MRS.) Its not always about the money for me. They always treat me as a preferred customer and the prices are just as good as most others. (He always knocks a few dollars off of my Yes I love Kurt and Mike and maybe Ive dealt with Uncle Dick more often. Hes always at the Philly and Chantilly shows that I attend and treats me like an old friend. Yes its a business but I consider him a gentleman of the hobby and will always seek him out To those of you who have not dealt with U.D. ...I highly recommend him ================= Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 15:44:55 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gurus Wauction From: Larry Tipton Wauction has been extended 24 hours and will now end Monday at 6 AM EST. ifyou haven't placed your bids, now is the time! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 17:37:14 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Blind contact From: OBC Nick P I received the message below from mark Zimmerman. Anybody know this dude? God guy or scam artist? Nick Pelletier Begin forwarded message: > From: Mark Zimmermann > Date: August 5, 2017 at 5:03:12 PM CDT > To: Nachobcards@yahoo.com > Subject: OBC site > Nick. - > I looked over your OBC site and have a few of your needs for sale. Let me know f you might be interested > Thanks > Mark ================= Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 18:54:51 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Blind contact From: Mike Glasser Good guy! Mike Glasser The Goddard School 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD. 21152 > On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:37 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I received the message below from mark Zimmerman. Anybody know this dude? God guy or scam artist? > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > Begin forwarded message: >> From: Mark Zimmermann >> Date: August 5, 2017 at 5:03:12 PM CDT >> To: Nachobcards@yahoo.com >> Subject: OBC site >> Nick. - >> I looked over your OBC site and have a few of your needs for sale. Let me know f you might be interested >> Thanks >> Mark ================= Date: 06 Aug 2017 00:32:45 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Blind contact From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: 06 Aug 2017 02:47:53 +0000 To: Subject: What is this? From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 06 Aug 2017 02:52:35 +0000 To: Subject: here is the other side From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= To: , Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 22:54:56 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] here is the other side [1 Attachment] From: "Sal Domino" Found an old post on Net554. Looks like ~1950. Found these on ebay with planes on the backs http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-VINTAGE-1940s-PECO-CANDY-CIGARETTES-BOX-WITH-SHIPS-AND-AIRPLANE-CARDS-ON-BOXES-/172803875130?hashitem283be9e13a:g:TxsAAOS= Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2017 10:53 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] here is the other side [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] sorry for the second email ================= Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2017 23:29:44 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Uncle Dick et al From: Ken M   The thing about Uncle Dick is that his stuff is the most organized - and he has a huge inventory of stuff at any one show... at least as far as the binders are concerned (which are generally nicer stuff than what I'd normally be looking for). I wouldn't rate his "bargain" bins up there with some of our other preferred dealers, but in my dealings with him he's always given me an OBC discount. Other dealers have better deals, but it's usually hit or miss with them. Still a thumbs up from me, but I'd still rank a number of others ahead of him like (in no particular order) Kurt Tourdot, Mike McCann, Ron Estes and Roger Neufeldt. You'll find more deals that are "too good to pass up" with the other guys, but you have to be in the right place at the right time to get one on a card you're looking for. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Aug 5, 2017 2:42 PMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] UNCLE DICK: THUMBS UP from Baltimore I have never dealt with anyone that everyone in this group knows. Except Uncle Dick. Once through email and once at the show near Valley Forge. I forgot what that was called. A very good guy. It was nice to buy some stuff from a very nice guy. And like with Ed, he knocked a few bucks off. RW   In a message dated 8/5/2017 11:19:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes:  I have a very different outlook and have always had good if not excellent experiences with him and his son. (I would not say the same however for the MRS.) Its not always about the money for me. They always treat me as a preferred customer and the prices are just as good as most others. (He always knocks a few dollars off of my Yes I love Kurt and Mike and maybe Ive dealt with Uncle Dick more often. Hes always at the Philly and Chantilly shows that I attend and treats me like an old friend. Yes its a business but I consider him a gentleman of the hobby and will always seek him out To those of you who have not dealt with U.D. ...I highly recommend him ================= Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2017 23:40:02 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Uncle Dick et al From: ShoelessWes I'll second Ken's assessment of Uncle Dick. Slight premium, but you save time, as he spent the hours categorizing and even using penny sleeves for every For the people going to the show, or 'a' show for just one or two days, yougotta hit Dick. Save an hour or two. Wes Shepard > On Aug 5, 2017, at 11:29 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > The thing about Uncle Dick is that his stuff is the most organized - and he has a huge inventory of stuff at any one show... at least as far as the binders are concerned (which are generally nicer stuff than what I'd normally be looking for). I wouldn't rate his "bargain" bins up there with someof our other preferred dealers, but in my dealings with him he's always given me an OBC discount. Other dealers have better deals, but it's usually hit or miss with them. Still a thumbs up from me, but I'd still rank a number of others ahead of him like (in no particular order) Kurt Tourdot, Mike McCann, Ron Estes and Roger Neufeldt. You'll find more deals that are "too good to pass up" with the other guys, but you have to be in the right place at the right time to get one on a card you're looking for. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Aug 5, 2017 2:42 PM > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; /p> > Cc: > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] UNCLE DICK: THUMBS UP from Baltimore > I have never dealt with anyone that everyone in this group knows. > Except Uncle Dick. > Once through email and once at the show near Valley Forge. I forgot what that was called. > A very good guy. It was nice to buy some stuff from a very nice guy. And like with Ed, he knocked a few bucks off. > RW > In a message dated 8/5/2017 11:19:46 A.M. Pacific Dayligh t Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > I have a very different outlook and have always had good if not > excellent experiences with him > and his son. (I would not say the same however for the MRS.) > Its not always about the money for me. > They always treat me as a preferred customer and the prices are > just as good as most others. (He always knocks a few dollars off of my > total) > Yes I love Kurt and Mike and maybe Ive dealt with Uncle Dick more often. > Hes always at the Philly and Chantilly shows that I att end and treats me > like an old friend. > Yes its a business but I consider him a gentleman of the hobby and will > always seek him out > To those of you who have not dealt with U.D. ...I highly recommend him ================= Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 07:51:53 -0700 To: OBC - Ramlings Subject: Re: Blind contact From: Gary Beard I've been trading with him for years...he's a GREAT guy! ================= Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 21:13:45 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Available 2016 National VIP bonus cards From: Matthew Glidden Found these from Atlantic City while organizing after Chicago this year. :-) Leaf 4-card set: Mariano Rivera, Tom Brady, Jack Eichel, Mike Berkus Crime Doesn't Pay: John Dillinger Panini 6-card set: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Brandon Ingram, Buddy Hield, Kenta Maeda and Trevor Story Upper Deck 5-card set: GRETZKY, WOODS, BRODEUR, LEBRON, JORDAN ================= Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:14:06 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: Available 2016 National VIP bonus cards From: Matthew Glidden Thanks all, the sets are claimed! On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 5:13 PM Matthew Glidden > Found these from Atlantic City while organizing after Chicago this year. > :-) > Leaf 4-card set: Mariano Rivera, Tom Brady, Jack Eichel, Mike Berkus > Crime Doesn't Pay: John Dillinger > Panini 6-card set: Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Brandon Ingram, Buddy Hield, > Kenta Maeda and Trevor Story > Upper Deck 5-card set: GRETZKY, WOODS, BRODEUR, LEBRON, JORDAN > FCFS! > Spike ================= Date: 07 Aug 2017 00:46:49 +0000 To: Subject: 3 Card Waiver wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 07 Aug 2017 01:14:30 +0000 To: Subject: New Contacts From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 01:41:34 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: who's working on 9 x 75? From: Dan Angland Can't remember who is working on this project?Thanks, Dan Angland ================= Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 22:42:02 -0400 To: duph182@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who's working on 9 x 75? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Kent Goto passed the entire project along to Aaron Shirley at the National swap. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Angland duph182@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sun, Aug 6, 2017 9:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] who's working on 9 x 75? Can't remember who is working on this project? Thanks, Dan Angland ================= Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 22:44:15 -0400 To: welfar03@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Contacts From: Steve I have made several trades with Joe Miller, he is very fair and reliable. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Aug 6, 2017, at 9:14 PM, welfar03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey guys it's been a long time since any non-OBCer has contacted me abouta trade, then Saturday I get 2 e-mails asking if I'd be interested in trading. Has anyone dealt with Joseph Tomich or Joe Miller? ================= Date: 07 Aug 2017 03:19:05 +0000 To: Subject: Scary card stories From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 03:33:01 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who's working on 9 x 75? From: Aaron Shirley Yep! He sure did. But not for me. Kent's request was that I then attempt tofinish the project (still missing about 60 cards) then sell the complete sets, whether on Net54 or eBay or wherever. Then use the funds for benevolent OBC activities like "National scholarships." So far I have examined the first half of the set, and see a lot of cards which MUST be upgraded if I amto attempt to sell them. Here's the list I have so far: Any unmarked checklists and team cards - most need upgraded! 20 MUNSON NEED 1 and upgrades 61 Winfield at least 2 upgrades 100 Stargell upgrades 117 Orioles upgrades 150 Gibson upgrades 180 Morgan upgrades 194 MICK/NEWK MVP NEED 2 and upgrades 195 HANK/MICK MVP NEED 5 and upgrades 196 Banks/Jensen MVP upgrades 200 MICK/MAURY MVP NEED 2 and upgrades 202 Brooks/Boyer MVP upgrades 204 F.ROB/CLEMENTE MVP NEED 4 and upgrades 223 YOUNT NEED 2 and upgrades 225 Grich upgrades 228 BRETT NEED 6 and upgrades 257 Checklist upgrade to unmarked? 260 BENCH NEED 4 and upgrades 300 REGGIE NEED 2 and upgrades 320 ROSE NEED 1 and upgrades Will try to get the rest of the list in the next couple days. Honestly, if you have ANY HOF, stars, or even semistars that aren't beat up, they would most likely be upgrades. Especially when trying to put the seventh-, eighth- and ninth-best sets together to sell. ANY help is much appreciated. Aaron Shirley 33 Edgebrook Centralia IL 62801 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 9:42 PM To: duph182@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who's working on 9 x 75? Kent Goto passed the entire project along to Aaron Shirley at the National swap. -----Original Message----- From: Dan Angland duph182@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sun, Aug 6, 2017 9:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] who's working on 9 x 75? Can't remember who is working on this project? Thanks, Dan Angland ================= Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 22:38:01 -0500 To: Steve Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Contacts From: Mike Mackie I have had several dealings with Joe Miller. I'd recommend him Mike Mackie Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2017, at 9:44 PM, Steve rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have made several trades with Joe Miller, he is very fair and reliable. > Steve Sankner > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 6, 2017, at 9:14 PM, welfar03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Hey guys it's been a long time since any non-OBCer has contacted me about a trade, then Saturday I get 2 e-mails asking if I'd be interested in trading. Has anyone dealt with Joseph Tomich or Joe Miller? ================= Date: 07 Aug 2017 05:59:22 +0000 To: Subject: The National Continues: More of My Handshakes From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: 07 Aug 2017 10:13:56 +0000 To: Subject: Handshake Correction--Guru From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 07:56:21 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Gurus Wauction #10 RESULTS From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Check the OBC Facebook =E2=9CLIVE=E2=9D broadcast, I=E2=99ll post results here in the next day or two. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:17:36 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Our Emerald Anniversary From: Glenn Codere It's only just dawned on me that July marked the 20th anniversary of my OBC"brother" Brian Lindholme and I joining this illustrious club. Thanks for the cards and the friendship over all those years, gentlemen!! GlennGlasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 12:42:40 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Subject: It's never too early to plan for the next National From: Steve Rittenberg Cleveland: August 1 - 5, 2018 Chicago: July 31 - August 4, 2019 Atlantic City: July 29 - August 2, 2020 http://www.beckett.com/news/national-sports-collector-convention-locations-dates-2018-2019-2020/ If I focus now, there's a small chance that I will be ready in time. :-) Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 15:51:04 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1st batch From: David Luciano Thanks to hutch for 1st package back and Greg Henthorn for a ridiculous fatenvelope with a 64 williams and 63 yaz. Ok greg Game on. 23 envelopes out, more to go. Dave Luciano 216 406 5940 ================= Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 16:15:23 -0400 To: srittenberg@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I plan on being busy when it is in Atlantic City. Last year wasn't too bad, but getting in and out of Atlantic City is such a pain, I plan on boycotting. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings ; OBC-National Sent: Mon, Aug 7, 2017 1:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next National Cleveland: August 1 - 5, 2018 Chicago: July 31 - August 4, 2019 Atlantic City: July 29 - August 2, 2020 http://www.beckett.com/news/national-sports-collector-convention-locations-dates-2018-2019-2020/ If I focus now, there's a small chance that I will be ready in time. :-) Steve Rittenberg ================= To: "srittenberg@gmail.com" , Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 20:29:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next From: Taylor Schock Personally.... I loved being able to... * get a place 1 block off the beach, with a * 10 minutes drive from the show, at * $179 for the entire WEEK, and * being a closer drive than Cleveland From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 4:15 PM To: srittenberg@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; OBC-National@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next National I plan on being busy when it is in Atlantic City. Last year wasn't too bad, but getting in and out of Atlantic City is such a pain, I plan on boycotting. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings ; OBC-National Sent: Mon, Aug 7, 2017 1:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next National Cleveland: August 1 - 5, 2018 Chicago: July 31 - August 4, 2019 Atlantic City: July 29 - August 2, 2020 http://www.beckett.com/news/national-sports-collector-convention-locations-dates-2018-2019-2020/ [http://beckett-www.s3.amazonaws.com/news/news-content/uploads/2017/08/National-Sports-Collectors-Convention-2018-2020.jpg]; OBC-National Sent: Mon, Aug 7, 2017 1:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next National Cleveland: August 1 - 5, 2018 Chicago: July 31 - August 4, 2019 Atlantic City: July 29 - August 2, 2020 http://www.beckett.com/news/national-sports-collector-convention-locations-d If I focus now, there's a small chance that I will be ready in time. :-) Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 20:26:28 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Random thoughts From: Ken M Hi all,  I was going to sit down and type out a National recap, but decided not to since A) you're probably bored/sick of them by now (especially if you missed out on it) and B) I really didn't think I had anything interesting to write about. I think I crossed more off my list from handshakes/the swap than I bought at the show. I didn't find anything super exciting. I did pick up a few 1963 Jello SP's (including one for a dollar) and I killed only one set (via a GURU handshake he told me about a week or two prior, so I wouldn't buy it). I think I spent more time bird dogging cards for other people or picking up a small number of cards that I thought were good deals for the DS server (or RAOK's). I did spend a good amount of time at the dime and quarter boxes - probably more than any show I've ever attended.  I did finally get some DS cards in the mail today that I picked up at the show for others. So Nate and Ed, keep an eye out for those. I also dropped a couple more envel opes for Aaron, Doug, Mike R-W and Geordie if memory serves. I hope to post a small waiver wire and an even smaller DS group in a day or three. Tonight I think I'll catch a movie though.  Interesting day at the mailbox today. After not bidding on eBay for over a month in anticipation of the National, I got back into the swing of things last week. Two of those lots showed up today: a few 1977 Twinkies listed as regular Hostess and a T205 Jennings (Polar Bear back), cutting that list to just ten! I also got a 1949 Bowman Robin Roberts that I had saved in my dupes box to swap for a grey back version if anyone had one. Ironically, my offer on one on eBay was accepted today and I can now DS my extra white back. That list is now down to one Jackie Robinson RC to finish - so close and yet so far...   I finally got around to figuring out who I need for those hockey story books and posted the list on my page. These came as part of a bulk lot I purchased last November in Wilmington . I ended up buying a couple dupes at the National, so those will be waivered (or traded if you have any I need). I bought a roll of stamps today and I'm not afraid to use them  I don't mind the National going back to AC. The last one there was much better than the first one I went to - although not gambling may have had something to do with that. Only downside was that I didn't get my room comp'ed and the place I picked was TOO cheap. I want to look into renting out a place that a big group of us (10-12) can stay at - at least for Friday and Saturday nights. That would probably be the swap location as well. It's still a few years away, but I'd like to get other's feedback on the idea. Maybe we could look into something like that in Cleveland or Chicago too?  Well, I thought I had more to write, but it's almost time for that movie anyway. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 00:57:51 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan From: Taylor Schock Yeah, I heard those same comments 2 years ago as well. And some may. But I know BUYING cards in AC found me better deals than this past year in Chicago. I know I talked with a few dealers at the end of or after AC and those that setup were fairly pleased for the most part. But in buying and selling,it depends on what you have or what you want. As to the comments on West Coast dealers not showing up. So what? Which "West Coast dealers" would we miss that won't show up? There might be only 1 that I would miss, but can't remember if he was there in 2016. There were a few dealers that I was hoping would be there this year, but got shut out ofChicago. They were in AC and I bought stuff from them there and was looking to again this year. As they indicate in the car ads, YMMV. From: OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com on behalfof smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 5:24 PM To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; srittenberg@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the n... from what I heard the dealers saying, many of them may boycott as well/ Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB In a message dated 8/7/2017 3:15:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com I plan on being busy when it is in Atlantic City. Last year wasn't too bad, but getting in and out of Atlantic City is such a pain, I plan on boycotting. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings ; OBC-National Sent: Mon, Aug 7, 2017 1:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] It's never too early to plan for the next National Cleveland: August 1 - 5, 2018 Chicago: July 31 - August 4, 2019 Atlantic City: July 29 - August 2, 2020 http://www.beckett.com/news/national-sports-collector-convention-locations-dates-2018-2019-2020/ [http://beckett-www.s3.amazonaws.com/news/news-content/uploads/2017/08/National-Sports-Collectors-Convention-2018-2020.jpg] Subject: Re: Blind contact From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:57:00 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 2 rookie cards in one set? From: Sean McGowan I know this isn't vintage, but I thought you guys would get a kick out of it. During my recent dupes liquidation I discovered that in the '99 topps set Gabe Kapler is on two (count 'em) prospect cards... #205 in series 1 and #432 in series 2. And while I was combing through the stats to see if it was to correct an error (it wasn't) I discovered that Mr. Kapler and I share a birthday! So now it is Gabe, Frank Robinson, Tracy Stallard, and I! check out the two cards... ================= Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:52:01 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: "Street dates" for 1933 Sport Kings #1-24 and 1934 Sport Kings #25-48? From: Matthew Glidden Hi guys, spend some insomnia time this morning looking at details of the Sport Kings release. The first 24 cards are (C) 1933 on the back and don''t refer to anything after that year. #25-48 are (C) 1934 on the back and refer to late 1933 events, as well as some early 1934. Anyone know more specifically when those two series hit the streets? Being a multi-sport set, I can imagine matching one specific season wasn't essential. ================= Date: 08 Aug 2017 22:16:37 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver: 1967 Topps Pin Ups From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 21:01:33 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Suggestions wanted please From: JDahms ================= Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:30:39 -0500 To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: Steve Rittenberg It depends on your definition of doable and your budget. - 1936 Goudey is just a small number (36?) of B/W cards. Only a few HOFers. - 1941 Playball is a very nice, presentable color set but with several HOFers that can end up costing you $$$ unless you cheat like me and using reprints for Joe DiMaggio. - 1933 Goudey is vey popular right now. I think prices have come up but its a way to end up with many HOFs from that era. And again, I paid $1 for reprints of Ruths and Goudeys. - 1935 Goudey 4-in-1 is a cheaper way to get all the fronts of the '33 Gs. But chasing after the backs will end up becoming expensive. - Plenty of guys like the 1941 Double Play -- cut in half. And if you have a whole card, please mail to 41 Fuller Street, Everett MA, where Mr. Morganti will gleefully cut your card into two. Hope this helps some. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:01 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set but > I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions > please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. > Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 19:18:14 -0700 To: JDahms , Obc Ranblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: wite3 ================= Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 01:21:46 -0400 To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: Anson Whaley Hi JD - As others have said, it's hard to make a perfect fit without some budget info. But my general recommendation to those in your position when I'm asked is T205. It's one of the best looking sets out there and with 208 cards in the base set, it's entirely doable. A few cards like the Joss are not easy to find for what a lot of people consider to be reasonable prices. And some like Wilhelm or some of the SPs can be a little difficult to find. But overall, it's an entirely manageable set. You can find a lot of low-grade commons for $10 or so. If you want something a little easier, T201 is a good option as long as you don't mind quirky types of cards since they fold over and have two players to a card. That one only has 50 cards and you can get low-grade commons in the $15 range in straight auctions with some patience. That one is nice in that the most expensive card is the Cobb/Crawford, and you can get low-grade copies of that for about $300 or less. The 1939 Play Ball set would be another option, as others have said. More cards, but much cheaper If you just want something quick and painless, try for the 1936 Goudey as someone mentioned. I literally put a set together over a weekend just buying low-grade card on COMC and eBay. 25 cards and the most expensive card is Greenberg. In low-grade, you can get it for about $50 with some luck. Not always, but sometimes. Good luck with it. If you want more specific recommendations based on a budget and how long of a project you want, let me know and I can give you some ideas. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:01 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set but > I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions > please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. > Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2017 10:28:50 +0000 To: Anson Whaley , JDahms , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: Matthew Glidden Hi JD, In addition to those mentioned, consider 1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" premiums. At 120 cards, it's bigger than Goudey's 36-card set from the same year and many feature more interesting photos than the smaller set. Low grade singles cost a few dollars. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID872 If you want a satisfying set to build, even if it's tough to get the high numbers, go for 1934-36 Diamond Stars. Terrific front art. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r327/r327.asp?cardsetID885 On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:21 AM Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi JD - > As others have said, it's hard to make a perfect fit without some budget > info. But my general recommendation to those in your position when I'm > asked is T205. It's one of the best looking sets out there and with 208 > cards in the base set, it's entirely doable. A few cards like the Joss are > not easy to find for what a lot of people consider to be reasonable prices. > And some like Wilhelm or some of the SPs can be a little difficult to find. > But overall, it's an entirely manageable set. You can find a lot of > low-grade commons for $10 or so. > If you want something a little easier, T201 is a good option as long as > you don't mind quirky types of cards since they fold over and have two > players to a card. That one only has 50 cards and you can get low-grade > commons in the $15 range in straight auctions with some patience. That one > is nice in that the most expensive card is the Cobb/Crawford, and you can > get low-grade copies of that for about $300 or less. The 1939 Play Ball set > would be another option, as others have said. More cards, but much cheaper > commons. > If you just want something quick and painless, try for the 1936 Goudey as > someone mentioned. I literally put a set together over a weekend just > buying low-grade card on COMC and eBay. 25 cards and the most expensive > card is Greenberg. In low-grade, you can get it for about $50 with some > luck. Not always, but sometimes. > Good luck with it. If you want more specific recommendations based on a > budget and how long of a project you want, let me know and I can give you > some ideas. > Anson > > www.avast.com > > <#m_7074824873999493062_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:01 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set >> but I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions >> please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. >> Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions >> JD >> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:03:13 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Gurus Wauction #10 From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Lot #2 was removed from the Wauction as I could not remember where the cardcame from. But this was a handshake card for Joe Denning who was unable toattend the National. Joe was the first (and only) bidder on the card as itwas quickly withdrawn from the Wauction. This card was the last card Joe needed for his set. 1. (Shawn Smart) 1967 Topps baseball #150 Mickey Mantle. 2. (Joe Denning) 1965 Topps Embossed #11 Mickey Mantle. 3. (MRW) 1958 Topps baseball #486 Willie Mays. 4. (Geordie Calvert) 1963 Fleer baseball #43 Maury Wills (RC). 5. (Richard Labs) 1955 Bowman baseball #134 Bob Feller. 6. (Ed Hutchinson)1964 Topps Giants #49 Hank Aaron consigned by Kent Goto. 7. (Larry Gersbach) 1961 Fleer Baseball Greats #1 checklist. 8. (John Stamper) 1965 Topps football (tall boys) starter set consigned by Kent 9. (Steve Sanker) 1954 Topps baseball #139 O=E2=99Brien twins. 10. (Dan England) 1978 Donruss Elvis full set of 66 cards with one unopened wax pack. ================= Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:32:40 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: mikesportsfan@aol.com A asked the same question about 10 years ago. I may have asked it directly to Andy Cook, as at the time I considered him our prewar expert. His suggestion at the time was 1936 Goudey. A number of other guys are also prewar experts, such as Mac, Anson, Bama (although he has liquidated his collection), etc. Almost all of the sets that guys have suggested so far I haveeither completed or am still working on. I believe you are like me in that while you want to build and complete a set, there is no urgency to completing it. You can get close on many of the sets, without busting the budget. The stars and high numbers will stall you on some sets. I know you havesuspended collecting Basketball and Hockey, but if you are willing to consider others sports, the T-218 is a popular set within OBC. The golfers anda few of the boxers are more money, but all are relatively reasonable, especially for prewar. At 153 cards, you can buy starter lots, get help from OBC, and get down to a dozen or 2 to hunt for completion. Mark Talbot, with George Vrechek, can answer every question about the issue. That is likely the least expensive prewar US issued sports set to complete. David Luftig and I have been chasing prewar boxing, including those issued in the UK. Those are also affordable. Anson and I have also picked up other prewar, mainly British issued, other sports. This includes Association Football (soccer), Cricket, Rugby, and other sports. Glenn Codere has helped me with this An area not mentioned that are a little tougher to find, but are very affordable, are the 1930s Diamond Matchbook covers. Without the strikers you can find them for just a few dollars each. The 1935 set of 156 different players is highlighted by the Waner Brothers and Casey Stengel as the biggest stars to get. Translation, almost no stars. I am still less than 1/2 way there but I did see some at the National. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Anson Whaley ; JDahms ; Obc Ranblings Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 6:29 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please Hi JD, In addition to those mentioned, consider 1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" premiums. At 120 cards, it's bigger than Goudey's 36-card set from the same year and many feature more interesting photos than the smaller set. Low grade singlescost a few dollars. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID872 If you want a satisfying set to build, even if it's tough to get the high numbers, go for 1934-36 Diamond Stars. Terrific front art. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r327/r327.asp?cardsetID885 On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:21 AM Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hi JD - As others have said, it's hard to make a perfect fit without some budget info. But my general recommendation to those in your position when I'm asked is T205. It's one of the best looking sets out there and with 208 cards in the base set, it's entirely doable. A few cards like the Joss are not easy to find for what a lot of people consider to be reasonable prices. And somelike Wilhelm or some of the SPs can be a little difficult to find. But overall, it's an entirely manageable set. You can find a lot of low-grade commons for $10 or so. If you want something a little easier, T201 is a good option as long as youdon't mind quirky types of cards since they fold over and have two playersto a card. That one only has 50 cards and you can get low-grade commons inthe $15 range in straight auctions with some patience. That one is nice inthat the most expensive card is the Cobb/Crawford, and you can get low-grade copies of that for about $300 or less. The 1939 Play Ball set would be another option, as others have said. More cards, but much cheaper commons. If you just want something quick and painless, try for the 1936 Goudey as someone mentioned. I literally put a set together over a weekend just buyinglow-grade card on COMC and eBay. 25 cards and the most expensive card is Greenberg. In low-grade, you can get it for about $50 with some luck. Not always, but sometimes. Good luck with it. If you want more specific recommendations based on a budget and how long of a project you want, let me know and I can give you someideas. Virus-free. www.avast.com=09=09 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:01 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set but I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: 10 Aug 2017 02:05:11 +0000 To: Subject: A few HOF waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: Marshall West , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:40:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] MOLETA AND LABS From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:48:12 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] MOLETA AND LABS From: Joel Freedman Edgar Martinez and David Cone were not just born on the Jan 2 (my bday) they were actually born in the same year, as I. 1963! We are all 54. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Marshall > Was talking with Wayne Delia and Mike Rumley-Wells a couple weeks ago > about our "baseball twins" - those major leaguers born on exactly the same > day, month, AND year as us. Wayne's twin is Manny Castillo. Mine are Kevin > Millwood, Jamey Wright and Keith Luuloa. Not hall of fame by any stretch of > the imagination; but hey Millwood did pitch a no-no. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Marshall West marshall@marshallwest.com > [OBC-Thanks] wrote: > Thanks out to JAMES and RICHARD today. > JAMES shows up with 3 =E2=9976 football cards, and 2 Hostess cards along > the ride! > RICHARD sends 6 =E2=9976 football cards. And the one that got me REALexcited > was the Marv Bateman card. He was a punter at the Univ of Utah when I was > going to college there. And man, could he kick a football!! It was a > sight to see and brought back good memories of days past. > I can=E2=99t remember who recently wrote about being born on the same day > several major leaguers. But it got me thinking, and I would just like to > throw this in for fun: > *JANUARY 31 BASEBALL BIRTHDAYS:* > JAN 31- JACKIE ROBINSON > JAN 31- ERNIE BANKS > JAN 31- NOLAN RYAN > JAN 31- MARSHALL ARTHUR WEST > Can anyone beat that? > Marshall ================= To: "jd3681@yahoo.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:19:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: JAY TYSVER That is a good set and one that I am considering going after. I thought I got a great deal on the Rogers Hornsby but it was a reprint. However, I did get a steal on the Gehrig and the Jimmie Foxx. The best part about that set is that the pictures are really nice. You can also pick up a decent Ruth for a bit less than other sets. As far as stars, you can still find plenty of them for around $25 to $35. Igot the Gehrig for $75. It really is a good set to be a first set. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:13 AM To: jd3681@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please JD - The first pre-war set I went after was a 1931 W517 strip series containing a sepia-toned photograph (not a cartoon-like drawing). It's a 54 cardseries chock full of Hall of Famers including two Babe Ruths and two Mickey Cochranes. It also contains several guys at the end of their career who are hard to find as active players - including Grover Cleveland Alexander, Harry Heilmann, Dazzy Vance, Rogers Hornsby, and Eddie Collins just to namea few. I imagine that the set has gotten more pricey since I completed this set some 10-15 years ago. Since it was the first pre-war set that I completed it holds a special place in my heart. Good hunting! Mike Mackie From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: jd3681@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please A asked the same question about 10 years ago. I may have asked it directly to Andy Cook, as at the time I considered him our prewar expert. His suggestion at the time was 1936 Goudey. A number of other guys are also prewar experts, such as Mac, Anson, Bama (although he has liquidated his collection), etc. Almost all of the sets that guys have suggested so far I haveeither completed or am still working on. I believe you are like me in that while you want to build and complete a set, there is no urgency to completing it. You can get close on many of the sets, without busting the budget. The stars and high numbers will stall you on some sets. I know you havesuspended collecting Basketball and Hockey, but if you are willing to consider others sports, the T-218 is a popular set within OBC. The golfers anda few of the boxers are more money, but all are relatively reasonable, especially for prewar. At 153 cards, you can buy starter lots, get help from OBC, and get down to a dozen or 2 to hunt for completion. Mark Talbot, with George Vrechek, can answer every question about the issue. That is likely the least expensive prewar US issued sports set to complete. David Luftig and I have been chasing prewar boxing, including those issued in the UK. Those are also affordable. Anson and I have also picked up other prewar, mainly British issued, other sports. This includes Association Football (soccer), Cricket, Rugby, and other sports. Glenn Codere has helped me with this An area not mentioned that are a little tougher to find, but are very affordable, are the 1930s Diamond Matchbook covers. Without the strikers you can find them for just a few dollars each. The 1935 set of 156 different players is highlighted by the Waner Brothers and Casey Stengel as the biggest stars to get. Translation, almost no stars. I am still less than 1/2 way there but I did see some at the National. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Anson Whaley ; JDahms ; Obc Ranblings Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 6:29 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please Hi JD, In addition to those mentioned, consider 1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" premiums. At 120 cards, it's bigger than Goudey's 36-card set from the same year and many feature more interesting photos than the smaller set. Low grade singlescost a few dollars. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID872 Old Cardboard: Vintage Baseball Cards History of Baseball Cards ... Year(s) Published: 1936 ACC Designation: R314Set Name: Goudey "Wide Pens" If you want a satisfying set to build, even if it's tough to get the high numbers, go for 1934-36 Diamond Stars. Terrific front art. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r327/r327.asp?cardsetID885 [http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r327/r327.jpg] Old Cardboard: Vintage Baseball Cards References: 1) John Harrell, "1934-35 R327 Diamond Stars: Art Deco Styling of Real Photos," Old Cardboard Magazine, Issue #17 (Fall, 2008, p. 27-34) On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:21 AM Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi JD - As others have said, it's hard to make a perfect fit without some budget info. But my general recommendation to those in your position when I'm asked is T205. It's one of the best looking sets out there and with 208 cards in the base set, it's entirely doable. A few cards like the Joss are not easy to find for what a lot of people consider to be reasonable prices. And somelike Wilhelm or some of the SPs can be a little difficult to find. But overall, it's an entirely manageable set. You can find a lot of low-grade commons for $10 or so. If you want something a little easier, T201 is a good option as long as youdon't mind quirky types of cards since they fold over and have two playersto a card. That one only has 50 cards and you can get low-grade commons inthe $15 range in straight auctions with some patience. That one is nice inthat the most expensive card is the Cobb/Crawford, and you can get low-grade copies of that for about $300 or less. The 1939 Play Ball set would be another option, as others have said. More cards, but much cheaper commons. If you just want something quick and painless, try for the 1936 Goudey as someone mentioned. I literally put a set together over a weekend just buyinglow-grade card on COMC and eBay. 25 cards and the most expensive card is Greenberg. In low-grade, you can get it for about $50 with some luck. Not always, but sometimes. Good luck with it. If you want more specific recommendations based on a budget and how long of a project you want, let me know and I can give you someideas. [alt] www.avast.com On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:01 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set but I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:02:01 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: mikesportsfan@aol.com While I have the W-517 Gehrig, I still need both Ruth's as 2 of the last 9 I need for a base set. This set also comes in 2 colors, plus has a few other variations. While a nice looking set, there are better sets for a firstprewar If anyone has a lead on reasonable Ruth's please lmk. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: jd3681 ; OBC-Ramblings ; Mike Mackie Sent: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 10:19 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please That is a good set and one that I am considering going after. I thought I got a great deal on the Rogers Hornsby but it was a reprint. However, I did get a steal on the Gehrig and the Jimmie Foxx. The best part about that set is that the pictures are really nice. You can also pick up a decent Ruth for a bit less than other sets. As far as stars, you can still find plenty of them for around $25 to $35. Igot the Gehrig for $75. It really is a good set to be a first set. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:13 AM To: jd3681@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please JD - The first pre-war set I went after was a 1931 W517 strip series containing a sepia-toned photograph (not a cartoon-like drawing). It's a 54 cardseries chock full of Hall of Famers including two Babe Ruths and two Mickey Cochranes. It also contains several guys at the end of their career who are hard to find as active players - including Grover Cleveland Alexander, Harry Heilmann, Dazzy Vance, Rogers Hornsby, and Eddie Collins just to namea few. I imagine that the set has gotten more pricey since I completed this set some 10-15 years ago. Since it was the first pre-war set that I completed it holds a special place in my heart. Good hunting! Mike Mackie From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: jd3681@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please A asked the same question about 10 years ago. I may have asked it directly to Andy Cook, as at the time I considered him our prewar expert. His suggestion at the time was 1936 Goudey. A number of other guys are also prewar experts, such as Mac, Anson, Bama (although he has liquidated his collection), etc. Almost all of the sets that guys have suggested so far I haveeither completed or am still working on. I believe you are like me in that while you want to build and complete a set, there is no urgency to completing it. You can get close on many of the sets, without busting the budget. The stars and high numbers will stall you on some sets. I know you havesuspended collecting Basketball and Hockey, but if you are willing to consider others sports, the T-218 is a popular set within OBC. The golfers anda few of the boxers are more money, but all are relatively reasonable, especially for prewar. At 153 cards, you can buy starter lots, get help from OBC, and get down to a dozen or 2 to hunt for completion. Mark Talbot, with George Vrechek, can answer every question about the issue. That is likely the least expensive prewar US issued sports set to complete. David Luftig and I have been chasing prewar boxing, including those issued in the UK. Those are also affordable. Anson and I have also picked up other prewar, mainly British issued, other sports. This includes Association Football (soccer), Cricket, Rugby, and other sports. Glenn Codere has helped me with this An area not mentioned that are a little tougher to find, but are very affordable, are the 1930s Diamond Matchbook covers. Without the strikers you can find them for just a few dollars each. The 1935 set of 156 different players is highlighted by the Waner Brothers and Casey Stengel as the biggest stars to get. Translation, almost no stars. I am still less than 1/2 way there but I did see some at the National. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Anson Whaley ; JDahms ; Obc Ranblings Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 6:29 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please Hi JD, In addition to those mentioned, consider 1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" premiums. At 120 cards, it's bigger than Goudey's 36-card set from the same year and many feature more interesting photos than the smaller set. Low grade singlescost a few dollars. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID872 Old Cardboard: Vintage Baseball Cards History of Baseball Cards ... Year(s) Published: 1936 ACC Designation: R314Set Name: Goudey "Wide Pens" If you want a satisfying set to build, even if it's tough to get the high numbers, go for 1934-36 Diamond Stars. Terrific front art. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r327/r327.asp?cardsetID885 Old Cardboard: Vintage Baseball Cards References: 1) John Harrell, "1934-35 R327 Diamond Stars: Art Deco Styling of Real Photos," Old Cardboard Magazine, Issue #17 (Fall, 2008, p. 27-34) On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:21 AM Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hi JD - As others have said, it's hard to make a perfect fit without some budget info. But my general recommendation to those in your position when I'm asked is T205. It's one of the best looking sets out there and with 208 cards in the base set, it's entirely doable. A few cards like the Joss are not easy to find for what a lot of people consider to be reasonable prices. And somelike Wilhelm or some of the SPs can be a little difficult to find. But overall, it's an entirely manageable set. You can find a lot of low-grade commons for $10 or so. If you want something a little easier, T201 is a good option as long as youdon't mind quirky types of cards since they fold over and have two playersto a card. That one only has 50 cards and you can get low-grade commons inthe $15 range in straight auctions with some patience. That one is nice inthat the most expensive card is the Cobb/Crawford, and you can get low-grade copies of that for about $300 or less. The 1939 Play Ball set would be another option, as others have said. More cards, but much cheaper commons. If you just want something quick and painless, try for the 1936 Goudey as someone mentioned. I literally put a set together over a weekend just buyinglow-grade card on COMC and eBay. 25 cards and the most expensive card is Greenberg. In low-grade, you can get it for about $50 with some luck. Not always, but sometimes. Good luck with it. If you want more specific recommendations based on a budget and how long of a project you want, let me know and I can give you someideas. Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:01 PM, JDahmsjd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set but I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= To: , Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:03:51 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please From: "Bob Donaldson" I=E2=99d go with 1941 Playball. Only 72 cards, is in color. It does have Williams and DiMaggio but at least they are not rookies. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 11:02 AM To: jd3681@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please While I have the W-517 Gehrig, I still need both Ruth's as 2 of the last 9 I need for a base set. This set also comes in 2 colors, plus has a few other variations. While a nice looking set, there are better sets for a firstprewar If anyone has a lead on reasonable Ruth's please lmk. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: jd3681 >; OBC-Ramblings >; Mike Mackie > Sent: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 10:19 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please That is a good set and one that I am considering going after. I thought I got a great deal on the Rogers Hornsby but it was a reprint. However, I did get a steal on the Gehrig and the Jimmie Foxx. The best part about that set is that the pictures are really nice. You can also pick up a decent Ruth for a bit less than other sets. As far as stars, you can still find plenty of them for around $25 to $35. Igot the Gehrig for $75. It really is a good set to be a first set. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:13 AM To: jd3681@yahoo.com ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please JD - The first pre-war set I went after was a 1931 W517 strip series containing a sepia-toned photograph (not a cartoon-like drawing). It's a 54 cardseries chock full of Hall of Famers including two Babe Ruths and two Mickey Cochranes. It also contains several guys at the end of their career who are hard to find as active players - including Grover Cleveland Alexander, Harry Heilmann, Dazzy Vance, Rogers Hornsby, and Eddie Collins just to namea few. I imagine that the set has gotten more pricey since I completed this set some 10-15 years ago. Since it was the first pre-war set that I completed it holds a special place in my heart. Good hunting! Mike Mackie From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: jd3681@yahoo.com ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please A asked the same question about 10 years ago. I may have asked it directly to Andy Cook, as at the time I considered him our prewar expert. His suggestion at the time was 1936 Goudey. A number of other guys are also prewar experts, such as Mac, Anson, Bama (although he has liquidated his collection), etc. Almost all of the sets that guys have suggested so far I haveeither completed or am still working on. I believe you are like me in that while you want to build and complete a set, there is no urgency to completing it. You can get close on many of the sets, without busting the budget. The stars and high numbers will stall you on some sets. I know you havesuspended collecting Basketball and Hockey, but if you are willing to consider others sports, the T-218 is a popular set within OBC. The golfers anda few of the boxers are more money, but all are relatively reasonable, especially for prewar. At 153 cards, you can buy starter lots, get help from OBC, and get down to a dozen or 2 to hunt for completion. Mark Talbot, with George Vrechek, can answer every question about the issue. That is likely the least expensive prewar US issued sports set to complete. David Luftig and I have been chasing prewar boxing, including those issued in the UK. Those are also affordable. Anson and I have also picked up other prewar, mainly British issued, other sports. This includes Association Football (soccer), Cricket, Rugby, and other sports. Glenn Codere has helped me with this An area not mentioned that are a little tougher to find, but are very affordable, are the 1930s Diamond Matchbook covers. Without the strikers you can find them for just a few dollars each. The 1935 set of 156 different players is highlighted by the Waner Brothers and Casey Stengel as the biggest stars to get. Translation, almost no stars. I am still less than 1/2 way there but I did see some at the National. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Anson Whaley >; JDahms >; Obc Ranblings > Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 6:29 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Suggestions wanted please Hi JD, In addition to those mentioned, consider 1936 Goudey "Wide Pen" premiums. At 120 cards, it's bigger than Goudey's 36-card set from the same year and many feature more interesting photos than the smaller set. Low grade singlescost a few dollars. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r314/r314.asp?cardsetID872 Old Cardboard: Vintage Baseball Cards www.oldcardboard.com History of Baseball Cards ... Year(s) Published: 1936 ACC Designation: R314Set Name: Goudey "Wide Pens" If you want a satisfying set to build, even if it's tough to get the high numbers, go for 1934-36 Diamond Stars. Terrific front art. http://www.oldcardboard.com/r/r327/r327.asp?cardsetID885 Old Cardboard: Vintage Baseball Cards www.oldcardboard.com References: 1) John Harrell, "1934-35 R327 Diamond Stars: Art Deco Styling of Real Photos," Old Cardboard Magazine, Issue #17 (Fall, 2008, p. 27-34) On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:21 AM Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Hi JD - As others have said, it's hard to make a perfect fit without some budget info. But my general recommendation to those in your position when I'm asked is T205. It's one of the best looking sets out there and with 208 cards in the base set, it's entirely doable. A few cards like the Joss are not easy to find for what a lot of people consider to be reasonable prices. And somelike Wilhelm or some of the SPs can be a little difficult to find. But overall, it's an entirely manageable set. You can find a lot of low-grade commons for $10 or so. If you want something a little easier, T201 is a good option as long as youdon't mind quirky types of cards since they fold over and have two playersto a card. That one only has 50 cards and you can get low-grade commons inthe $15 range in straight auctions with some patience. That one is nice inthat the most expensive card is the Cobb/Crawford, and you can get low-grade copies of that for about $300 or less. The 1939 Play Ball set would be another option, as others have said. More cards, but much cheaper commons. If you just want something quick and painless, try for the 1936 Goudey as someone mentioned. I literally put a set together over a weekend just buyinglow-grade card on COMC and eBay. 25 cards and the most expensive card is Greenberg. In low-grade, you can get it for about $50 with some luck. Not always, but sometimes. Good luck with it. If you want more specific recommendations based on a budget and how long of a project you want, let me know and I can give you someideas. Virus-free. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:01 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Hi all. I am to a point now where I am wanting to start a pre war set but I really have no idea where to start. So I am looking for suggestions please from any who wish to give them of doable sets for me to look into. Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: 10 Aug 2017 17:07:59 +0000 To: Subject: Updated 1969 needs From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:35:35 -0700 To: "jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Updated 1969 needs From: wite3 ================= Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:28:17 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: who's collecting T205s? From: Robert Fitts Who is collecting the T205 set in Tipton shape? I have 3/4 of a Cady from Newark who needs a home but I want to give to to somebody who really is working on the set. Anybody over 50% competition who needs it? It goes to theperson who has the highest completed set (but missing Cady) who responds by monday morning ================= Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:01:36 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Signed 1950 Boston Braves ball (w/Southworth) From: Matthew Glidden Not a great deal by price, but a nice piece of Boston baseball history: https://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/clt/d/1950-boston-braves-baseball/6239246510.html ================= Date: 11 Aug 2017 19:22:42 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver Wire: 8-11 From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 11 Aug 2017 22:19:24 +0000 To: Subject: 1963 Salada checklist goof From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 11 Aug 2017 22:25:17 +0000 To: Subject: 1957 Topps variation/print defect or whatever.......... From: grains@shaw.ca ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:36:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps variation/print defect or From: richard dingman I have it listed on my variations lists. It has been known for a while. Thanks for keeping your eyes out for this stuff! Richard D https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home/variations-lists Richard Dingman Cards - Google Sites Richard Dingman's baseball card wantlist and tradables From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:25 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps variation/print defect or whatever.......... [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Looking thru this set and noticed that #5 Sal "The Barber" Maglie has a card with a green blob in his glove.......and one that doesn't.........I went to Evilbay and COMC, it looks like the "green ball in glove" is considerably scarcer.........it isn't listed on the Yahoo Group "Variation" site. Notmaking a huge point here, just info for variation weirdos like me..........I have attached a scan of the blob, if doesn't come through and you want one, please drop me a line. ================= Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:40:58 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Football availables From: Doug DeJong Are you ready for some football? Claim away. Please include your address. 1971 Football 6 7 14 16 18 20 21 22 24 29 31 33 41 47 56 61 62 63 67 69 73 74 76 80 82 85 88 95 98 99 106 110 115 121 130 131 132 135 140 142 163 191 214 233 255 1973 Football 65 67 84 94 111 112 149 184 190 219 220 229 294 296 297 304 327 334 337 363 369 384 393 394 421 449 488 504 507 510 524 526 527 528 Team Checklists (all with checks) Brown Cowboys Dolphins Giants Eagles Lions Packers Rams Redskins Steelers ================= To: Ramblings Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 00:47:24 +0000 Subject: Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: richard dingman I hope this will be the right forum for this message. Richard D From: groucho1001 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: richard dingman Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Pam Montgomery Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Pam, I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joinedOBC in '08 and then he died in '12. Sorry for your loss. I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to bethere. I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission Icould forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them up. Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. Richard D From: Pam Montgomery Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Richard: I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. Thanks for your time Pam Montgomery ================= Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 21:23:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net I actually drove to Kent's house years ago for a small swap session with Terry Dietrich (RIP), Richard Kimball (the Fugitive) and Matt Heilemann. I was on my way to western NY and took a detour to Washington, PA just south of Pittsburgh (actually drove west on I-68). Kent had a friends collection that he was trying to sell, but the guy wanted too much money (and most of it was mid-1960s). Who knows what might be in his basement. -----Original Message----- From: richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 11, 2017 8:47 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? I hope this will be the right forum for this message. Richard D From: groucho1001 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: richard dingman Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Pam Montgomery Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Pam, I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joinedOBC in '08 and then he died in '12. Sorry for your loss. I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to bethere. I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission Icould forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them up. Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. Richard D From: Pam Montgomery Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Richard: I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. Thanks for your time Pam Montgomery ================= Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 20:48:48 -0500 To: "Mead, Peter" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Steve Rittenberg I spend a weekend with Terry, Mattman, Fugitive and Ed Schott many years ago. Kent joined us for the Pirates game. An awesome weekend! On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:23 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I actually drove to Kent's house years ago for a small swap session with > Terry Dietrich (RIP), Richard Kimball (the Fugitive) and Matt Heilemann. I > was on my way to western NY and took a detour to Washington, PA just south > of Pittsburgh (actually drove west on I-68). Kent had a friends collection > that he was trying to sell, but the guy wanted too much money (and most of > it was mid-1960s). > Who knows what might be in his basement. > -----Original Message----- > From: richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: Ramblings > Sent: Fri, Aug 11, 2017 8:47 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? > I hope this will be the right forum for this message. > Richard D > ------------------------------ > *From:* groucho1001 > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM > *To:* richard dingman > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I > have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I > recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks > for offering. Pam > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: richard dingman > Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Pam Montgomery > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Pam, > I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he > joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. > Sorry for your loss. > I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which > many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to > be there. > I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission > I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is > anyone who could help. > Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally > of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from > the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the > point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never > sell. > So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a > sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them > up. > Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. > But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. > Best, > Richard D > ------------------------------ > *From:* Pam Montgomery > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM > *To:* richard dingman > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Richard: > I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late > husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved > collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him > countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his > "healthy" life and knew his cards. > Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the > "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at > a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or > anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could > trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking > advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by > year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I > did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I > realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time > and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. > I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before > because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to > give them away because they are valuable. > I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more > detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each > box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other > OBC member who may be able to help. > Thanks for your time > Pam Montgomery > groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 22:55:00 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Anson Whaley Hi Richard - I am in Pittsburgh. Not sure what part she is in but we could be five minutes apart or over an hour apart. The term Pittsburgh get used sort of loosely and with traffic I may not be all that close. I am out in the I don't really collect that stuff so would be hard pressed to buy them. ButI wouldn't mind stopping to see what she had if she's not too far away. I can at least pass along the info to the group if there is anything worth shipping and see if anyone would want them. I should note that I have a good sense of what that stuff is worth in general but don't know about crazy variations, etc from that era because it's just not my specialty. I can advise on the stars and rookies as well as condition in a general sense, though. If no one else is available to help her I definitely don't mind trying. I always hate these sorts of stories so if I can be of assistance, let me know. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I hope this will be the right forum for this message. > Richard D > From: groucho1001 > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM > To: richard dingman > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what Ihave been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: richard dingman > Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Pam Montgomery > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Pam, > I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. > Sorry for your loss. > I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to be > I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permissionI could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. > Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. > So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from asale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them > Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. > But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. > Best, > Richard D > From: Pam Montgomery > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM > To: richard dingman > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Richard: > I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. > Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have"given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. > I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. > Thanks for your time > Pam Montgomery > groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 07:15:47 -0700 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: John Stamper I'm with Brian. As long as they are vintage they belong in OBC. I'm willingto help as well. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 > On Aug 12, 2017, at 12:14 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Thank you Anson! > That's the right thing to do! > I swapped RAOK with Kent a few times and he was a joy to have in the group. > His tenure was short but his baseball passion was pure. > It sounds like these cards belong in OBC. > If something could be worked out with Kent's wife, we should acquire and redistribute > Not sure that applies if they are junk-era late 80's-90's but if they areearlier years I would be happy to pitch in (maybe heavily ) to make sure she is happy and cards are in good homes! > Keep me posted! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: richard dingman > Cc: Ramblings > Sent: August 11, 2017 at 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? > Hi Richard - I am in Pittsburgh. Not sure what part she is in but we could be five minutes apart or over an hour apart. The term Pittsburgh get usedsort of loosely and with traffic I may not be all that close. I am out in the > I don't really collect that stuff so would be hard pressed to buy them. But I wouldn't mind stopping to see what she had if she's not too far away. I can at least pass along the info to the group if there is anything worth shipping and see if anyone would want them. > I should note that I have a good sense of what that stuff is worth in general but don't know about crazy variations, etc from that era because it's just not my specialty. I can advise on the stars and rookies as well as condition in a general sense, though. > If no one else is available to help her I definitely don't mind trying. Ialways hate these sorts of stories so if I can be of assistance, let me know. > Anson > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I hope this will be the right forum for this message. > Richard D > From: groucho1001 > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM > To: richard dingman > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what Ihave been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: richard dingman > Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Pam Montgomery > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Pam, > I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. > Sorry for your loss. > I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to be > I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permissionI could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. > Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. > So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from asale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them > Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. > But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. > Best, > Richard D > From: Pam Montgomery > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM > To: richard dingman > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Richard: > I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. > Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have"given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. > I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. > Thanks for your time > Pam Montgomery > groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 11:03:32 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: New set started From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 11:19:07 -0400 To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I too had the opportunity to meet Kent in person. This was during my tour of the northeast in 2005. Kent was already ill during that time and I think I brightened his day as an OBC visitor. Nice guy. RIP and may your cards live on. Assuming there are enough vintage cards, maybe we send a stack of 150 +/- to Guru for GGS slabbing and sell them within the group for $1 +$.60 p&h forcommons. All of us could have a memory of a former OBCer and the family would get more than they otherwise would, for essentially nothing. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: familytoad Cc: richard dingman ; Anson Whaley ; Ramblings Sent: Sat, Aug 12, 2017 10:15 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? I'm with Brian. As long as they are vintage they belong in OBC. I'm willingto help as well. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Aug 12, 2017, at 12:14 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Thank you Anson! That's the right thing to do! I swapped RAOK with Kent a few times and he was a joy to have in the group. His tenure was short but his baseball passion was pure. It sounds like these cards belong in OBC. If something could be worked out with Kent's wife, we should acquire and redistribute Not sure that applies if they are junk-era late 80's-90's but if they are earlier years I would be happy to pitch in (maybe heavily ) to make sure sheis happy and cards are in good homes! Keep me posted! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: richard dingman Cc: Ramblings Sent: August 11, 2017 at 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? Hi Richard - I am in Pittsburgh. Not sure what part she is in but we could be five minutes apart or over an hour apart. The term Pittsburgh get used sort of loosely and with traffic I may not be all that close. I am out in the I don't really collect that stuff so would be hard pressed to buy them. ButI wouldn't mind stopping to see what she had if she's not too far away. I can at least pass along the info to the group if there is anything worth shipping and see if anyone would want them. I should note that I have a good sense of what that stuff is worth in general but don't know about crazy variations, etc from that era because it's just not my specialty. I can advise on the stars and rookies as well as condition in a general sense, though. If no one else is available to help her I definitely don't mind trying. I always hate these sorts of stories so if I can be of assistance, let me know. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I hope this will be the right forum for this message. Richard D From: groucho1001 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: richard dingman Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Pam Montgomery Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Pam, I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joinedOBC in '08 and then he died in '12. Sorry for your loss. I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to bethere. I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission Icould forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never sell. So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them up. Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. Richard D From: Pam Montgomery Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Richard: I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. Thanks for your time Pam Montgomery ================= Date: 12 Aug 2017 17:34:15 +0000 To: Subject: Excel program From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: Anson Whaley , richard dingman Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 12:41:25 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: mark zentkovich I would be glad to run a waiver wire and send out stuff from that collection if the group decides to buy a lot Mark Zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 9:55 PM To: richard dingman Cc: Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? Hi Richard - I am in Pittsburgh. Not sure what part she is in but we could be five minutes apart or over an hour apart. The term Pittsburgh get used sort of loosely and with traffic I may not be all that close. I am out in the I don't really collect that stuff so would be hard pressed to buy them. ButI wouldn't mind stopping to see what she had if she's not too far away. I can at least pass along the info to the group if there is anything worth shipping and see if anyone would want them. I should note that I have a good sense of what that stuff is worth in general but don't know about crazy variations, etc from that era because it's just not my specialty. I can advise on the stars and rookies as well as condition in a general sense, though. If no one else is available to help her I definitely don't mind trying. I always hate these sorts of stories so if I can be of assistance, let me know. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I hope this will be the right forum for this message. Richard D From: groucho1001 Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks for offering. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: richard dingman Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Pam Montgomery Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Pam, I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he joinedOBC in '08 and then he died in '12. Sorry for your loss. I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to bethere. I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission Icould forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is anyone who could help. Unfortunately, Topps baseballcards from the '70s onward are not generally of verymuch value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them up. Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. Richard D From: Pam Montgomery Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to Hi Richard: I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his "healthy" life and knew his cards. Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to give them away because they are valuable. I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other OBC member who may be able to help. Thanks for your time Pam Montgomery ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:12:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Excel program From: JAY TYSVER ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" , JAY TYSVER Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:49:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Excel program From: JAY TYSVER Here it is, if someone can post this on the site if needed that would help. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 1:12 PM To: familytoad@comcast.net Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Excel program I can do this. How would I upload it to the site? Jay Tysver On Aug 12, 2017, at 1:03 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I have something close to this for my collection. I do 1952-1980 Topps I do about half of the Bowman sets, (50,51, 53bw, 53c) but no Fleer/Leaf. I have a few FB sets including tracking the 20+ 1971 set insanity. I have several of my prewar sets in the Excel workbook too. It's pretty easy to add more sets into the workbook. It has all the cards in each set, you simply type "have" or "need" and the sheet does all the calculations for you. Trouble is that I never seem to have time to commit to side projects like this. Work is consuming me... OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: August 12, 2017 at 10:36 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Excel program With my recent pickups of around 600 or so cards at and since the National,I was going to try and figure out where I am on the card collector level count. I was wondering if George, or anyone else, has set up a type of Excel program listing every set, # of cards in the set, # of cards I can enter that I have, automatically calculate % complete and total the numbers at bottom. Maybe even some sub-totals for Topps, Bowman, Fleer, etc. Of course I would need this for every sport, but would start with baseball. I do not thinkI am at 50% of the 110,000 baseball, but I may be getting close to 50,000.There has not been much addition to the other sports in the last year or so. If we have such a program, I think we should link it to the website. Please let me know. Mike Rich ================= Date: 12 Aug 2017 20:11:48 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Excel program From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 12 Aug 2017 20:26:41 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= To: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 16:30:57 -0400 Subject: Excel Card counter From: "Sal Domino" This is one I have been using/tinkering with. I just use the totals tab, but I added for different brands. I can try to go further, but time is a factor for me. You can insert rows and sets and it should maintain the totals formula (insert row). If anyone wants to make a list of all the Topps sets, I can try to add those that are missing. In the Wayne and Joe world, let's consider this "open source". I have added a variations column (although I haven't done the Bowman's yet), as for my counting purposes I like master sets. I have it separate to keep with George's criteria. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 17:04:11 -0400 To: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Mike Glasser I agree as well. Mike Glasser The Goddard School 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD. 21152 > On Aug 12, 2017, at 10:15 AM, John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Brian ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:39:17 -0400 To: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: Doug DeJong I agree and am happy to help as well. On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:15 AM, John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm with Brian. As long as they are vintage they belong in OBC. I'm > willing to help as well. > John Stamper > 503 Aspen View Ct. > Oak Park, Ca. 91377 > On Aug 12, 2017, at 12:14 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Thank you Anson! > That's the right thing to do! > I swapped RAOK with Kent a few times and he was a joy to have in the group. > His tenure was short but his baseball passion was pure. > It sounds like these cards belong in OBC. > If something could be worked out with Kent's wife, we should acquire and > redistribute them. > Not sure that applies if they are junk-era late 80's-90's but if they are > earlier years I would be happy to pitch in (maybe heavily ) to make sure > she is happy and cards are in good homes! > Keep me posted! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *richard dingman > *Cc: *Ramblings > *Sent: *August 11, 2017 at 7:57 PM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Pittsburgh locals ?? > Hi Richard - I am in Pittsburgh. Not sure what part she is in but we could > be five minutes apart or over an hour apart. The term Pittsburgh get used > sort of loosely and with traffic I may not be all that close. I am out in > the east. > I don't really collect that stuff so would be hard pressed to buy them. > But I wouldn't mind stopping to see what she had if she's not too far away. > I can at least pass along the info to the group if there is anything worth > shipping and see if anyone would want them. > I should note that I have a good sense of what that stuff is worth in > general but don't know about crazy variations, etc from that era because > it's just not my specialty. I can advise on the stars and rookies as well > as condition in a general sense, though. > If no one else is available to help her I definitely don't mind trying. I > always hate these sorts of stories so if I can be of assistance, let me > know. > Anson > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2017, at 8:47 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I hope this will be the right forum for this message. > Richard D > ------------------------------ > *From:* groucho1001 > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 6:55 PM > *To:* richard dingman > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Richard: I would welcome any help you could provide. You confirmed what I > have been told. I wasn't sure where you lived. A few other names I > recognised from his trading days was Bob Donaldson, an Peter Meade. Thanks > for offering. Pam > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: richard dingman > Date: 8/11/17 6:20 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Pam Montgomery > Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Pam, > I never met Kent, but my records show I sent him a few cards when he > joined OBC in '08 and then he died in '12. > Sorry for your loss. > I just returned from a big card show, the National, in Chicago at which > many OBCers met and I'm sure Kent, as you describe him, would have loved to > be there. > I live in MA so would not be of much help to you but with your permission > I could forward your email to the rest of the group and see if there is > anyone who could help. > Unfortunately, Topps baseball cards from the '70s onward are not generally > of very much value, with a few exceptions, and almost certainly cards from > the '80s and most definitely from the '90s are extremely common to the > point where dealers will not pay anything for them because they will never > sell. > So even shipping them would cut way into any moneys you might gain from a > sale. Therefore it would be best to find someone nearby who could pick them > up. > Possibly there may be someone in OBC, I don't know. > But as I say, if you would like, I could send your note around. > Best, > Richard D > ------------------------------ > *From:* Pam Montgomery > *Sent:* Friday, August 11, 2017 5:40 PM > *To:* richard dingman > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: thanks to > Hi Richard: > I know we have never met however I am hoping you may remember my late > husband Kent Montgomery who passed away almost 5 years ago. He loved > collecting and sharing baseball cards through OBC and it provided him > countless hours of enjoyment especially since he plays softball most of his > "healthy" life and knew his cards. > Here is my question: Neither of our two sons have any interest in the > "boxes" of cards in my basement. I would like to find a way to sell them at > a fair price. I know OBC is designed to trade verses sell. Are you or > anyone you trade with aware of a place in or around Pgh, PA that I could > trust to look at what he had and offer me a fair price without taking > advantage of my lack of knowledge? He has probably 20-25 boxes organized by > year ranging most from the 1970's to 1990.s. Most appear to be Topps. I > did sell a few boxes from the 60's on ebay for maybe $40 each however I > realize I may have "given" away some valuable cards. I still work full time > and do not have time to go through these boxes and understand what I have. > I tried a couple card shops and they told me they only want 1960 or before > because the market is saturated. I always remember kent telling me not to > give them away because they are valuable. > I welcome any thoughts you may have. I am willing to provide a more > detailed list of boxes, dates and maybe a few samples of what is in each > box if you are interested. I look forward to hearing from you or any other > OBC member who may be able to help. > Thanks for your time > Pam Montgomery > groucho1001@comcast.net ================= Date: 12 Aug 2017 23:31:51 +0000 To: Subject: Astronomically Busy 2017 - First Ever Ramble From: lucifer33323@yahoo.com ================= Date: 13 Aug 2017 02:03:40 +0000 To: Subject: It feels so good...short story inside From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:07:13 -0400 To: Ed Hutchinson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: Anson Whaley This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hashitem1c72b6637d:g:tS8AAOSw9mFWF2iB So unbelievable on so many levels. 'Cap' Anson On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than > friendly treatment of many of our members. > Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less than > half of my asking price) > It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my > blocked bidder list! > Just wanted to share! > Ed ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:09:36 -0400 To: Ed Hutchinson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: Anson Whaley I should add that my favorite part is that he believes the buyer should get it slabbed. As if he simply cannot be inconvenienced by taking the time to slab a $1.3 million item. 'Cap' Anson On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Anson Whaley > This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909- > GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hash > item1c72b6637d:g:tS8AAOSw9mFWF2iB > So unbelievable on so many levels. > 'Cap' Anson > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than >> friendly treatment of many of our members. >> Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less than >> half of my asking price) >> It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my >> blocked bidder list! >> Just wanted to share! >> Ed ================= To: Ed Hutchinson , Anson Whaley Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:19:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: Taylor Schock I had that EXACT thought. LOL. And he has the Mathewson slabbed. Go figure. Does he have auto-reject on? I would love to offer him $10 but would only do it if I get put on the blocked bidder list AND his items never showed up in my search again. *sigh* From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 10:09 PM To: Ed Hutchinson Cc: obc ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside I should add that my favorite part is that he believes the buyer should getit slabbed. As if he simply cannot be inconvenienced by taking the time toslab a $1.3 million item. 'Cap' Anson On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Anson Whaley > This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hashitem1c72b6637d:g:tS8AAOSw9mFWF2iB So unbelievable on so many levels. 'Cap' Anson On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than friendlytreatment of many of our members. Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less than half of my asking price) It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my blocked bidder list! Just wanted to share! ================= To: Anson Whaley Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:43:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:09:15 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: Ken M According to my 2009 SCD, this stamp is part of an obscure German stamp issue in 1909-10. There's about a dozen HOF'ers in the set. Ome stamps feature baseball equipment. Mathewson is the highest priced stamp ($325), followed by Wagner ($285) and Cy Young ($165). The other HOF'ers listed at 100 each and common players 65 (the equipment stamps were valued at 15. Those were NM prices BTW. According to toppsaholic, the Wagner has apparently gone up over 600,000% in the last 8 years (since his is in poor condition). Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Aug 12, 2017 10:43 PMTo: Anson Whaley;Cc: Ed Hutchinson;obc ramblings;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside Pardon; not to get off the main topic of bashing a terrible seller, but what is this, and what's it actually worth? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hash=item1c72b6637d:g:tS8AAOSw9mFWF2iB So unbelievable on so many levels. 'Cap' Anson On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than friendly treatment of many of our members. Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less than half of my asking price) It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my blocked bidder list! Just wanted to share! ================= Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 23:14:22 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: Anson Whaley It's a German Stamps issue from around the 1910s. Rare? Yes. But probably not worth much more than a few hundred at best, IMO. A Honus collector mightpay a little more but certainly not thousands of dollars, IMO. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2017, at 10:43 PM, Aaron Shirley wrote: > Pardon; not to get off the main topic of bashing a terrible seller, but what is this, and what's it actually worth? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hashitem1c72b6637d:g:tS8AAOSw9mFWF2iB >> So unbelievable on so many levels. >> 'Cap' Anson >>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than friendly treatment of many of our members. >>> Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less thanhalf of my asking price) >>> It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my blocked bidder list! >>> Just wanted to share! >>> Ed ================= Date: 13 Aug 2017 04:32:14 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Any Pittsburgh locals ?? From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: "'Ken M'" , Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 07:04:52 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: "Matt Yudt" I made an offer. According to ebay, if accepted, I=E2=99ll save $1,349,975.00 off Buy it Now. And still get free shipping. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:09 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside According to my 2009 SCD, this stamp is part of an obscure German stamp issue in 1909-10. There's about a dozen HOF'ers in the set. Ome stamps featurebaseball equipment. Mathewson is the highest priced stamp ($325), followedby Wagner ($285) and Cy Young ($165). The other HOF'ers listed at 100 eachand common players 65 (the equipment stamps were valued at 15. Those were NM prices BTW. According to toppsaholic, the Wagner has apparently gone up over 600,000% in the last 8 years (since his is in poor condition). Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Aug 12, 2017 10:43 PM To: Anson Whaley; Cc: Ed Hutchinson;obc ramblings; Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside Pardon; not to get off the main topic of bashing a terrible seller, but what is this, and what's it actually worth? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hashitem1c72b66 37d:g:tS8AAOSw9mFWF2iB [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than friendlytreatment of many of our members. Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less than half of my asking price) It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my blocked bidder list! Just wanted to share! ================= Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 11:35:58 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: "This card is a true debacle" From: Matthew Glidden I like the way this guy thinks! That's the intro to a eBay $20 BIN for http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-1-BENNY-BENGOUGH-ORIGINAL-BASEBALL-CARD-VINTAGE-POOR-3000-BOOK/222605158954 ================= Date: 13 Aug 2017 13:25:17 +0000 To: Subject: Stan Hacked at the National swap & I just discovered it - set-killer edition From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:50:46 -0400 To: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside From: ShoelessWes How about offer what he wants, and if he commits to selling, just never pay? Gotta get that card off there. Wes Shepard > On Aug 13, 2017, at 7:04 AM, 'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I made an offer. According to ebay, if accepted, I=E2=99ll save $1,349,975.00 off Buy it Now. And still get free shipping. > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2017 11:09 PM > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside > According to my 2009 SCD, this stamp is part of an obscure German stamp issue in 1909-10. There's about a dozen HOF'ers in the set. Ome stamps feature baseball equipment. Mathewson is the highest priced stamp ($325), followed by Wagner ($285) and Cy Young ($165). The other HOF'ers listed at 100 each and common players 65 (the equipment stamps were valued at 15. Those were NM prices BTW. According to toppsaholic, the Wagner has apparently gone up over 600,000% in the last 8 years (since his is in poor condition). > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Aug 12, 2017 10:43 PM > To: Anson Whaley; > Cc: Ed Hutchinson;obc ramblings; > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It feels so good...short story inside > Pardon; not to get off the main topic of bashing a terrible seller, but what is this, and what's it actually worth? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 12, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > This will never not be my favorite Toppsaholic eBay listing of all time. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONUS-WAGNER-HOF-PIRATES-1909-GERMAN-BASEBALL-STAMPS-RARE-CARD-ISSUE-/122183639933?hashitem1c72b66 > So unbelievable on so many levels. > 'Cap' Anson > On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 10:03 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Well, we all know about toppsaholic on ebay and his, um, less than friendly treatment of many of our members. > Well, they just made an offer on one of my items on ebay (for less than half of my asking price) > It was so rewarding to decline the order, and immediately put them on my blocked bidder list! > Just wanted to share! > Ed ================= To: "directorth@aol.com" , Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 10:06:12 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Stan Hacked at the National swap & I just From: mark zentkovich Awesome, thanks to Stan for a super nice act of kindness, love to see the randomness of Stan=E2=99s work! Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 8:25 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Stan Hacked at the National swap & I just discovered it - set-killer edition This is cross-posted to Ramblings and Thanks - well, because I can. And gosh darn it, it deserves it! Last night I finally decided to grab the dupes box I brought to the swap session n Chicago two weeks ago.& organize it. Inside I found an envelope with my name on it. No name for the person who gave it to me. I open it & discover a 1955 Stan Hack and a 1943 Stan Hack M.P. & Co. in a toploader. Cool,I got Stan Hacked with two Stan Hacks! But wait..... I pull out the cards & there's an extra thickness in there. In between the 2 Stan Hacks, I find a Roberto Clemente card. A 1955 Roberto Clemente rookie card. I recall pictures of this exact card from early in the show. Some extremelykind OBCer (or group of extremely kind OBCers) saw fit to buy it & presentit to me - and kill my 1955 Topps set. I am completely, and I've never used this word before, gobsmacked. (I hope I used that correctly.) The generosity and kindness of this group never fails to astound me. This Clemente goes in the OBC HOF of Stan Hacks & RAOK I've received over the years, joining the multiple Mickey Mantles (RAOK) and the last 20 1958 Topps Ineeded - all stars - from the National in Baltimore the year I lost my job& couldn't attend (arrived via a Stan Hack priority envelope.) To whoever Hacked me - a thousand thank yous, and a major apology for not even knowing about for 14 days! Tom Housley ================= Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:16:34 -0400 To: directorth@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stan Hacked at the National swap & I just From: David Luciano That is awseome. After church today I asked my wife, Why did I take a leave of absence from OBC? She said you had 2 kids, running a business, take care of your mom=85.. I=92m Still not seeing a good reason. Dave Luciano 216 406 5940 On Aug 13, 2017, at 9:25 AM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > This is cross-posted to Ramblings and Thanks - well, because I can. And gosh darn it, it deserves it! > Last night I finally decided to grab the dupes box I brought to the swap session n Chicago two weeks ago.& organize it. Inside I found an envelope with my name on it. No name for the person who gave it to me. I open it & discover a 1955 Stan Hack and a 1943 Stan Hack M.P. & Co. in a toploader. Cool, I got Stan Hacked with two Stan Hacks! But wait..... > I pull out the cards & there's an extra thickness in there. In between the 2 Stan Hacks, I find a Roberto Clemente card. > A 1955 Roberto Clemente rookie card. > WHAT?????? > I recall pictures of this exact card from early in the show. Some extremely kind OBCer (or group of extremely kind OBCers) saw fit to buy it & present it to me - and kill my 1955 Topps set. > I am completely, and I've never used this word before, gobsmacked. (I hope I used that correctly.) > The generosity and kindness of this group never fails to astound me. ThisClemente goes in the OBC HOF of Stan Hacks & RAOK I've received over the years, joining the multiple Mickey Mantles (RAOK) and the last 20 1958 ToppsI needed - all stars - from the National in Baltimore the year I lost my job & couldn't attend (arrived via a Stan Hack priority envelope.) > To whoever Hacked me - a thousand thank yous, and a major apology for noteven knowing about for 14 days! > Tom Housley ================= To: "'obc ramblings'" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:06:16 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] "This card is a true debacle" From: "Sal Domino" I=E2=99ve been keeping an eye on this one from the same seller: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-TOPPS-394-BILLY-HERMAN-381-MILTON-STOCK-370-BILL-HOEFT-3-PSA1-CARDS-/322638857697?hashitem4b1ec645e1:g:oxoAAOSwi1ZZdq7= I just need the Herman. Anyone else interested in the other 2? I would liketo see it get to $200 (65-70 each) if anyone wants to join in. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:36 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] "This card is a true debacle" I like the way this guy thinks! That's the intro to a eBay $20 BIN for Bengough. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-GOUDEY-1-BENNY-BENGOUGH-ORIGINAL-BASEBALL-CARD-VINTAGE-POOR-3000-BOOK/222605158954 ================= To: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:44:10 -0500 Subject: Re: It feels so good...short story inside From: "George Vrechek" The guy is nuts. I wouldn't offer him 2 cents. It isn't worth the George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:29:37 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1958 Hires Root Beer #8 xTAB Al Pilarcik (No Tab) FAIR G5926 From: Rick 58 hires is one of my many saved searches don't win very many cause the auctions usually go for more than I'm willing to pay. So I use it for bin's hoping for cheap ones and got the few I have that way. This was the first test set example that came out as a bin so quickly pulled the trigger. It's from dean's not noted for cheap cards so with shipping I had to pay $6.25. Saying all this for a question to you all do you think if it is a good dealdo you think they will ship it to me or do you think it will mysteriously go missing or they say it was a error in pricing? Rick View item: 1958 Hires Root Beer #8 xTAB Al Pilarcik (No Tab) FAIR G5926 End Time: Aug 12, 2017, 6:20:32 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 03:10:46 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Connie Mack A's business ledgers From: Matthew Glidden Unique piece of baseball history auctioned today for $12K: http://loveofthegameauctions.com/Incredible_1915_1950_Philadelphia_Athletics_Team_L-LOT13498.aspx ================= Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:39:25 -0700 To: Rick , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 Hires Root Beer #8 xTAB Al Pilarcik (No From: wite3 ================= Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:10:53 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 Hires Root Beer #8 xTAB Al Pilarcik (No Tab) From: Anson Whaley I have heard of Dean's getting beaten on similar type deals but haven't ever heard of them not following through on a sale. That said, I don't have much experience with buying from them either. I caved on a T205 I needed once and paid their pretty standard 100% markup fee. Had to swallow as I did it but also realized they weren't twisting my arm. Their prices are wholly unreasonable so I will generally never even consider buying anything there. For the stuff I watch they are generally about 100%-200% higher than others. But I haven't heard of them not making good on deals, either. Could be wrong. On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > 58 hires is one of my many saved searches don't win very many cause the > auctions usually go for more than I'm willing to pay. So I use it for bin's > hoping for cheap ones and got the few I have that way. This was the first > test set example that came out as a bin so quickly pulled the trigger. It's > from dean's not noted for cheap cards so with shipping I had to pay $6.25. > Saying all this for a question to you all do you think if it is a good > deal do you think they will ship it to me or do you think it will > mysteriously go missing or they say it was a error in pricing? Rick > View item: > 1958 Hires Root Beer #8 xTAB Al Pilarcik (No Tab) FAIR G5926 > > End Time: Aug 12, 2017, 6:20:32 AM PDT > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 01:19:25 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Happiness is... From: Ken M ..being the only bidder on a card to complete a set. I bid on a 1952 Red Man Kiner on eBay a couple days ago. The picture of the back didn't show up in the main part of the auction, but I checked the description and images of the front and back both came up. It was the final June date on my list. Opening bid was $20 plus $3 shipping. Probably more than I wanted to pay, but this one had the tab on it and Mike Wheat was the seller. I don't think I've bought anything from him in a long time, as his prices were on the high side in my opinion (and the majority of his stuff didn't match my collecting interests). Plus, with three days to go, I figured someone would outbid me or at least snipe it. I wasn't going over the MB on this one, even if it was a set killer. Well, no one else placed a bid and I'm putting the set to bed. (No Mike, I'm not going to do the sets with and without tabs... mostly so I can say you're *at least* twice as crazy as I am. 😀) Oddly enough, the 1952 Red Man set was the first one I started (Brett Domue hand ed me a near complete set) and the last one to complete, both by at least a couple years. The May and June dates on the Red Man sets are harder to find, especially the 1952 set. I've gone through stacks of a hundred 1952's at shows and only found 4 or 5 with the June date - never on one I needed. But now I'm done. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 07:20:38 -0400 To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happiness is... From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Well I have to agree with Ken. Maybe not that I am I "at least twice as crazy" as he is, but that the 1952 Red Man with June dates are much tougher to find than the March dates . While Ken has now completed his "master" setof 408 1952-1955 Red Man with both dates. I am trying to do a master set of 816. Both dates with and without tabs. 4 complete sets of each year ofRed Man. I have 195 of 204 of the March/April without tabs; 179 of 204 May/June without tabs; 134 March/April with tabs; and only 91 May/June with tabs. So I am 1 short of 600 and 13 short of 612, which is 75% complete or the equivalent of 3 of the 4 sets. The 1952 June with tabs is my weakest set with only having 6 of 52. I do have lots to swap, especially with tabs,if anyone wants to work out a deal. Congrats Ken on finishing your quest and showing me it can be done. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 14, 2017 1:21 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Happiness is... ...being the only bidder on a card to complete a set. I bid on a 1952 Red Man Kiner on eBay a couple days ago. The picture of theback didn't show up in the main part of the auction, but I checked the description and images of the front and back both came up. It was the final June date on my list. Opening bid was $20 plus $3 shipping. Probably more than I wanted to pay, but this one had the tab on it and Mike Wheat was the seller. I don't think I've bought anything from him in a long time, as his prices were on the high side in my opinion (and the majority of his stuff didn't match my collecting interests). Plus, with three days to go, I figured someone would outbid me or at least snipe it. I wasn't going over the MB onthis one, even if it was a set killer. Well, no one else plac ed a bid andI'm putting the set to bed. (No Mike, I'm not going to do the sets with and without tabs... mostly so I can say you're *at least* twice as crazy as Iam. ) Oddly enough, the 1952 Red Man set was the first one I started (Brett Domue handed me a near complete set) and the last one to complete, both by at least a couple years. The May and June dates on the Red Man sets are harder to find, especially the 1952 set. I've gone through stacks of a hundred 1952's at shows and only found 4 or 5 with the June date - never on one I needed. But now I'm done. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:04:13 -0400 Subject: My Toppsaholic story From: "Bob Donaldson" A few people have been mentioning Toppsaholic lately. Here's my story from last week. My collecting priority is the E121 American Caramel set from 1921/22. One of the things that makes this set difficult is there is the cards are unnumbered and there is no real checklist. A few cards I may never get as there are only one or two copies of them known and there are a number of cards that are super short prints only showing up once or twice a year for sale, sometimes less. And the price guides shows them all as commons with the same price. I am getting down to about 20 to complete the set (not counting all sorts of variations). Also the cards, being more paper stock are usually in lower grade condition. One of the cards on my ebay search - Nemo Leibold, shows up as a PSA4 buy it now for $90. PSA 4 is a little nicer than most of my cards and $90 is way more then I would pay for a common or is Leibold really a short print. Looking through my E121 sales spreadsheet which I created from when I had a VCP membership shows prices from $10-44, but very few sales. A quick Ebay search shows the EXACT SAME CARD sold on ebay for $43 a few weeks ago. Given its graded PSA4 and few come up for sale, $44 is an ok price. I've prefer to may half that in f/g/vg shape. But I'm tired of looking for this card so I make an offer of $50. Toppsaholic rejects and counters at $69.90. I counter at $55 and say that since the cards just sold at $43 two weeks ago I would not go higher. Topsaholic counters with $66 and says Hi bob thanks for the interest. Yes it was this exact card that sold for 43 .. we got a great deal... at 55 we lose money ...auctions aren't always indicative of true value ...ttyl LiLi. I think this is still WAY overpriced and just for kicks I do a search in my gmail for Leibold to see if this card has come up for sale before. I see an invoice from Kevin Savage for $17. Sure enough it's in my binder. Not a PSA 4 but it's in f/g shape which his fine for me. Thanks Topsaholic for rejecting my offer :) ================= Date: 14 Aug 2017 13:32:47 +0000 To: Subject: Response delay From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:34:57 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Changes From: OBC Nick P I have informed the AC of this information earlier today. At this point, I am resigning my seat on the AC. Grant rainsley has been filling my seat temporarily. I expect that will continue. In addition, I have requested to be moved to the inactive membership list. I still have outstanding debts to some of you:Ken pillion, Guru, EEK, and bob bannon to name a couple. Sorry I don't have the full list in front of me If you wish to contact me to confirm your name on the IOU list, please do. Rest assured all debts will be paid in full. Until we meet again, rock on! Nick Pelletier ================= Date: 15 Aug 2017 13:09:57 +0000 To: Subject: Ebay and Ebates From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: 15 Aug 2017 17:21:01 +0000 To: Subject: My nice find on eBay.. From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: 15 Aug 2017 17:22:25 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Connie Mack A's business ledgers From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:27:50 +0000 (UTC) To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My nice find on eBay.. [1 Attachment] From: Jim Thayer Nice find! I, too, found a nice find on ebay as well last week.I scored a '39-46 Exhibits Newhouser RC for only $2.99 and it's easily VGEX+. The seller was super awesome through the process, too, because the card was actually temporarily lost in USPS Land and he reimbursed me. I never once complained, and he was the one tracking the package the entire time. Figures....after he reimbursed me yesterday, the package arrived today, and I sent him his money back. No reason he needed to take a loss for a USPS blunder. So really....it was a nice find on EBay, and found a truly nice gentleman during the process. EBay is not ALL bad! :) On =E2=8ETuesday=E2=8E, =E2=8EAugust=E2=8E =E2=8E15=E2=8E, =E2=8E2017=E2=8E =E2=8E01=E2=8E:=E2=8E21=E2=8E:=E2=8E11=E2=8E =E2=8EPM=E2=8E =E2=8EEDT, davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: [Attachment(s) from davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] includedbelow] Greetings All, Everyone is welcome to ignore this post but when I signed up to join I gaveyou all fair warning that I'd be posting about things that probably nobodyelse cares about. Since nobody in my day-to-day life cares in the least, you all are stuck bearing the burden... As you can tell, I'm pretty excited about this recent purchase. Plus it proves there's still bargains to be had on eBay. Last week I scored this ca. 1919 J. Beagle's postcard of Jack Johnson. I usually don't collect postcardsbut I saw it up for auction with minimal activity and for $7 shipped, I won it. I thought for the price it was too good to be true but the seller shipped it to me and having it in hand, I'm certain it's real. Not the most earth-shattering score of all time but for a low-budget Jack Johnson collector like myself, I'm thrilled. Thanks for indulging me everyone. Sometimes it's nice to share one's excitement over a purchase. All the best, David Luftig ================= Date: 15 Aug 2017 18:08:44 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My nice find on eBay.. [1 Attachment] From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: 15 Aug 2017 19:10:58 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My nice find on eBay.. [1 Attachment] From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 21:19:16 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Leaving the state for the week.... From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, I am headed to Florida tomorrow because my aunt passed away this weekend. My dad is pretty in shock as this is the first of his siblings to pass away. My dad is handicapped, and my mom can't make that drive, so I'll be making sure my parents get there this week. This is going to be a very difficult next few days for us, but we'll hang in there as always. I plan to bring my laptop just in case people need me, but I'm not sure how much I'll be online. Family first, cardboard second. :) Take care all,Jimi ================= Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:01:16 +0000 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Hofstra show sat- easy coast national From: Joel Freedman Anybody going? ================= To: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 21:17:51 -0500 Subject: Re: My nice find on eBay.. From: "George Vrechek" Jack Johnson postcard. It probably has stayed under the radar because it is a British card? Very nice shot of Johnson who was a true super star. George Vrechek ================= To: "'Joel Freedman'" , Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 22:55:59 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra show sat- easy coast national From: "Sal Domino" This one is in White Plains. I can=E2=99t do Sat, but I am thinking about Sunday. I think Rob Fitts is heading there Sat. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 8:01 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra show sat- easy coast national Anybody going? ================= To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 00:02:34 -0400 Subject: Can anyone help Mike McCann ID this? From: "Sal Domino" One for the boys to figure out. This is a card/photo of Johnny Evers. Blank backed. No idea what it is from. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Sal Domino Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:05:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Can anyone help Mike McCann ID this? From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: 17 Aug 2017 03:16:33 +0000 To: Subject: Northwest Ohio get together From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:34:31 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Hofstra show sat- easy coast national From: Wayne Delia I'll try to get there Friday or Sunday, maybe both. Got a barbecue and a baseball game on Saturday. ================= Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:53:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hofstra show sat- easy coast national From: Robert Fitts Hi sal I will be there on Friday this time Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 04:02:12 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Thanks , Subject: Ballgame Thanks From: Mike Mackie Thanks to GARY MANDELL for a great evening at Wrigley Field last night. The Cubs' bats never showed up, but we had a great time catching up. Gary handed me an envelope with three 1951 Bowmans including a high number and HOF manager Billy Southworth. I truly appreciate the help and the Mike MackieOBC ================= Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:13:01 -0400 To: robertfitts@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Hofstra show sat- easy coast national From: biggies@aol.com This is titled "Hofstra" which I thought was last weekend. White Plains is this weekend. I will be there Friday afternoon. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 11:53 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Hofstra show sat- easy coast national Hi sal I will be there on Friday this time Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:32:26 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Sterling Sports Auctions From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Several weeks ago I shared that I was consigning to an auction house for the first time. Sterling Sports auctions. I consigned six T206 cards that were miscut with partial names on the top and bottom of the cards. I purchased these cards from another auction for the opening bid of $100, and with buyers premium and shipping charges, I needed to sell these for $114 to breakeven. The Auction closed August 4, and today August 17 I got my check from Sterling. All three lots sold and my check was for $120. Overall great experience! ================= Date: 17 Aug 2017 20:00:34 +0000 To: Subject: Help on a possible Bo Jackson Game worn Jersey From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:38:41 -0400 To: JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help on a possible Bo Jackson Game worn Jersey From: Steve I have a friend who used Robert Edward Auctions in New Jersey for his tobacco cards and when it was over he realized he made 3 times more money than he anticipated. They have a tremendous nation wide clientele and there are bidders out there ready to spend. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:00 PM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > My friend was a TV Producer. In 1985, he produced a TV program on Bo Jackson's road to the Heisman Trophy. Auburn gave him a Bo Jackson jersey, which appears to be game worn due to the markings on it. There is Field Paint on it. We also know the tags match up to game issued jerseys. > My friend had no idea what the value of it was. I told him a couple weeksago that I thought it was about $20k. Based upon past sales of the Jersey and comparable Jerseys, (Barry Sanders Ok St. jersey is estimated at $30k),there is reason to believe this is valued at $30k-$35k. (Sanders sold in at 2014 auction for $4k less than Jackson did). > My initial thought is to send this to an auction house. Heritage Auction realized over $26k on a Jackson Jersey in 2014. I sense they may know who the buyers are for this. I have been told Steiner is a good place to go as well. > I don't know what to expect at auction houses and have never dealt with them. > Does anyone have experience with Auction Houses, that can tell me dos or don'ts. And is Heritage a fair place to take this? > I want to make sure if we are selling this that we do the right thing. > Any help? > Jay Tysver ================= Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:49:27 -0400 To: Steve Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help on a possible Bo Jackson Game worn Jersey From: chris tripler I've also had tremendous luck with Robert Edwards. Great people, fair dealing, excellent deep-pocketed buyers. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Steve rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Jay, > I have a friend who used Robert Edward Auctions in New Jersey for his tobacco cards and when it was over he realized he made 3 times more money thanhe anticipated. They have a tremendous nation wide clientele and there arebidders out there ready to spend. > Steve Sankner > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:00 PM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> My friend was a TV Producer. In 1985, he produced a TV program on Bo Jackson's road to the Heisman Trophy. Auburn gave him a Bo Jackson jersey, which appears to be game worn due to the markings on it. There is Field Paint on it. We also know the tags match up to game issued jerseys. >> My friend had no idea what the value of it was. I told him a couple weeks ago that I thought it was about $20k. Based upon past sales of the Jerseyand comparable Jerseys, (Barry Sanders Ok St. jersey is estimated at $30k), there is reason to believe this is valued at $30k-$35k. (Sanders sold in at 2014 auction for $4k less than Jackson did). >> My initial thought is to send this to an auction house. Heritage Auctionrealized over $26k on a Jackson Jersey in 2014. I sense they may know who the buyers are for this. I have been told Steiner is a good place to go as well. >> I don't know what to expect at auction houses and have never dealt with them. >> Does anyone have experience with Auction Houses, that can tell me dos ordon'ts. And is Heritage a fair place to take this? >> I want to make sure if we are selling this that we do the right thing. >> Any help? >> Jay Tysver ================= Date: 18 Aug 2017 15:50:51 +0000 To: Subject: who From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 01:23:40 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Wants , Subject: Some baseball ava From: Dan Angland Let me know if you need any of the below.Thanks, Dan Angland 1958 Al Dark #1251959 332 , 5301961 2121963 771964 11, 54, 731968 576 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= Date: 19 Aug 2017 18:48:59 +0000 To: Subject: Lasts Chance Waivers From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:29:12 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: NE OBC at Mansfield show tomorrow From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, Ken M, Bob D, and I are heading to the Mansfield, MA show Sunday morning. If you'd like to join, come to Bob D's in Arlington about 8:30 to carpool, or at the show, which runs until 2:45 at the Holiday Inn. ================= Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:39:53 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Yellow waivers From: I picked up a small lot of 1958's and have two duplicate yellow letter variations: 23 Bill Tuttle has a nice crease running horizontally 108 Jim Landis Not bad, probably VG Hard to tell who is colleting the yellow variations, so I'll just put them up for grabs. I'll give it a day and then give preference to those I owe. ================= Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 18:52:51 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 58 Mantle available From: biggies@aol.com I have a very nice 58 Mick I'd like to exorcise for either 3 first round picks or a card or two from my list. Its a solid EX+ card with the only issue being 90/10 OC. Let me know if anyone has interest. Thanks, Bob ================= Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2017 17:36:07 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Meet up From: Rick My wife had to go to the Portland area for two days for orientation to start a masters program required for work. Took the opportunity to go with her so I could meet up with Brian and Julie. We had a great dinner which Brian picked up the tab again. Sat and visited quite awhile until Brian almost feel asleep in the chair sowe called it a night. Alway great to spend time with them be looking forward to the next time thank you very much for taking time out of your week. Friday didn't turn out nearing as well woke up and she had to call 911 to take me to the hospital. She wouldn't leave the hospital to go to class so she missed the second day. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 07:03:33 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: Mansfield Show From: Joel Freedman Nice to see, Ken, Spike and Bob D at the monthly Mansfield Massachusetts card show yesterday. The show had about forty dealers with the typical mixture of UV, vintage, memorabilia and autographs. Thanks to Spike for a handshake of my first 1940 Play Ball, a 49 bowman anda 33 Goudey! ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:25:38 +0000 To: Joel Freedman , OBC Ramblings , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mansfield Show type hit From: Matthew Glidden Big hit at the start of yesterday's Mansfield show, this #5 seat from Mike McCann via Aaron Shirley and others at the National. Ken drove it to New England and he and Bob D presided over its handoff yesterday! Thanks guys! On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 7:11 AM Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Nice to see, Ken, Spike and Bob D at the monthly Mansfield Massachusetts > card show yesterday. The show had about forty dealers with the typical > mixture of UV, vintage, memorabilia and autographs. > Thanks to Spike for a handshake of my first 1940 Play Ball, a 49 bowman > and a 33 Goudey! ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 08:44:23 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Non-sport reference book From: Steve Rittenberg Want to learn more about vintage non-sports? Then you need the Benjamin 1930-1960 guide. Three copies currently on Amazon for just $8 each with shipping. I'll consider buying one as a gift but if you ask nicely. And will get amazon to ship directly to you. Please let me know if interested. Link here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0937424536/refcm_sw_r_oth_tai_-jUMzbMQKASVN Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:26:10 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet up From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Hopes for a speedy recovery for whatever is ailing you. Let us know if we should start dividing up your Venezuelans! Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Aug 20, 2017 8:36 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet up My wife had to go to the Portland area for two days for orientation to start a masters program required for work. Took the opportunity to go with her so I could meet up with Brian and Julie. We had a great dinner which Brian picked up the tab again. Sat and visited quite awhile until Brian almost feel asleep in the chair sowe called it a night. Alway great to spend time with them be looking forward to the next time thank you very much for taking time out of your week. Friday didn't turn out nearing as well woke up and she had to call 911 to take me to the hospital. She wouldn't leave the hospital to go to class so she missed the second day. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 12:15:44 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: Wayne Delia Some of you on the Facebook OBC page saw the details of my excellent haul this weekend at the East Coast National, which I will summarize here. Most/all of these listed are from a terrific dealer, Dave Estright: 1949 Bowman: 12 commons VG 1952 Bowman: 1 common VG 1953 Topps: 21 commons G/VG 1954 Bowman: 1 common & Piersall #210 1954 Topps: 144 commons VG/EX (90 different) 1955 Bowman: Kiner 1955 Topps: 7 commons 1956 Topps: 3 commons & Pascual, Piersall 1957 Topps: 26 commons EX/MT, Roberts 1958 Topps: 32 commons EX/MT, Pinson (2), Hodges, Banks AS (2), Aaron AS, Braves Fence Busters, Snider, Flood, Newcombe, Ford, League Presidents 1959 Topps: 1 high number common, Frick, Giants Team, Fairly RC, Destruction Crew, Cardinals Team, Red Sox Team, Fence Busters, Cepeda, Aparicio, Doby (3), Dodgers Team, McDougald, Mathews, Ford, Mays Catch (2), Kaline Bat Champ, Hustler Banks, Cuellar RC, Yankees Team, Pirates Team, Kaline AS 1960 Topps: 4 high number commons, Kaat RC, Martin, Mound Magicians, Aparicio, Roberts, Mathews, Spahn, Drysdale, Drysdale AS, Pierce AS 1961 Topps: 1 common, 4 high number commons, Richards AS, Perry AS, Bunning, Banks AS, Yankees Team, Ford, M. Alou RC, 60 AL HR Leaders, 1962 Topps: 9 high number commons, Spahn No-Hit Form, AL/NL HR Kings, B. Robinson, Stengel, NL Batting Leaders, Kaline, Cepeda 1963 Topps: 9 commons, Colt .45s team, Braves Team, Dodgers Team, Cepeda, 1964 Topps: Yastrzemski, Brock 1965 Topps: McLain 1967 Topps: Pirates Team, Schoendienst, J. Niekro RC, McCarver 1968 Topps: Mays, Yastrzemski 1971 Kelloggs: Banks 1971 Topps Super: Clemente, B. Robinson Total cost: about $300. I rarely itemize cards like these but the deal was so good I tried to figure out what I was missing. I'll look him up in Valley Forge and I won't care if I don't stop at any other dealer tables. Dave specializes in buying collector-grade sets and pricing out the cards individually. He's met a lot of OBC'ers at the National in Chicago, a genuinely nice guy always wearing an OSU hat, and he knows several of us personally. Most of the stars listed above are in about VG condition. I've just removed a bunch of price tags from semi-rigid card holders and it's constantly like "Book Value $25, Our Price $2" which we all recognize as a good < 5% price for P/F stars and commons. But these cards were mostly VG, some G/VG, a bunch VG/EX - and on top of the terrific pricing, Dave tries to give an extra OBC discount on the whole bunch (which I turn down, because it's already a great value). He said he really admired our group's collecting philosophy and that it was a sincere pleasure dealing with anyone from the group - he felt he could trust us to keep an eye on one end of his table while he did business at the other end. Not sure of the exact OBC/AC process to nominate Dave for Certified Dealer status, but for the benefit of the group, he needs to be in there. Here's his schedule for the next few months: 9/22-24 Valley Forge PA 10/6-8 White Plains NY 10/13-15 Chantilly VA 11/02-05 Shriner's Boston MA 11/24-26 Moeller, Cincinnati OH 12/1-3 Valley Forge PA More details later for contact information. Git 'er done, OBC/AC. [image: Inline image 1] ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:03:10 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC history? From: biggies@aol.com With clearly little to do today before the 70% eclipse we will see here in CT I was scouring guys to hit with cards and noticed members since dates and so looked down the list. It looks like Messrs Neill and Summers were the pioneers in Nov of 1991? And the 4some of Tipton, Iverson, Levine and Moore joined up the following month. Realizing we have lost some members over the years might there be other pioneers? ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:55:55 -0400 To: biggies@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Kent Goto was right behind them, joining in January, 1992 and as we all know, Sal is celebrating his 25th anniversary in OBC this year. I would say anyone who has been active since before 1995, is one of our original pioneers. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 2:03 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? With clearly little to do today before the 70% eclipse we will see here in CT I was scouring guys to hit with cards and noticed members since dates and so looked down the list. It looks like Messrs Neill and Summers were the pioneers in Nov of 1991? And the 4some of Tipton, Iverson, Levine and Moore joined up the following month. Realizing we have lost some members over the years might there be other ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:18:43 -0400 To: ED SCHOTT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: Doug DeJong Dave's table has been the highlight of my trips to the Moeller Shows in Cincinnati and I have gotten some amazing deals from him. Highly On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Dave and his wife have always treated me well > Ive purchased from them at Chantilly and Philly > Real nice folks and our kind of deals and prices.. > highly recommend > On 8/21/2017 12:15 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Some of you on the Facebook OBC page saw the details of my excellent haul > this weekend at the East Coast National, which I will summarize here. > Most/all of these listed are from a terrific dealer, Dave Estright: > 1949 Bowman: 12 commons VG > 1952 Bowman: 1 common VG > 1953 Topps: 21 commons G/VG > 1954 Bowman: 1 common & Piersall #210 > 1954 Topps: 144 commons VG/EX (90 different) > 1955 Bowman: Kiner > 1955 Topps: 7 commons > 1956 Topps: 3 commons & Pascual, Piersall > 1957 Topps: 26 commons EX/MT, Roberts > 1958 Topps: 32 commons EX/MT, Pinson (2), Hodges, Banks AS (2), Aaron AS, > Braves Fence Busters, Snider, Flood, Newcombe, Ford, League Presidents > 1959 Topps: 1 high number common, Frick, Giants Team, Fairly RC, > Destruction Crew, Cardinals Team, Red Sox Team, Fence Busters, Cepeda, > Aparicio, Doby (3), Dodgers Team, McDougald, Mathews, Ford, Mays Catch (2), > Kaline Bat Champ, Hustler Banks, Cuellar RC, Yankees Team, Pirates Team, > Kaline AS > 1960 Topps: 4 high number commons, Kaat RC, Martin, Mound Magicians, > Aparicio, Roberts, Mathews, Spahn, Drysdale, Drysdale AS, Pierce AS > 1961 Topps: 1 common, 4 high number commons, Richards AS, Perry AS, > Bunning, Banks AS, Yankees Team, Ford, M. Alou RC, 60 AL HR Leaders, > Yastrzemski > 1962 Topps: 9 high number commons, Spahn No-Hit Form, AL/NL HR Kings, B. > Robinson, Stengel, NL Batting Leaders, Kaline, Cepeda > 1963 Topps: 9 commons, Colt .45s team, Braves Team, Dodgers Team, Cepeda, > Bunning > 1964 Topps: Yastrzemski, Brock > 1965 Topps: McLain > 1967 Topps: Pirates Team, Schoendienst, J. Niekro RC, McCarver > 1968 Topps: Mays, Yastrzemski > 1971 Kelloggs: Banks > 1971 Topps Super: Clemente, B. Robinson > Total cost: about $300. I rarely itemize cards like these but the deal was > so good I tried to figure out what I was missing. I'll look him up in > Valley Forge and I won't care if I don't stop at any other dealer tables. > Dave specializes in buying collector-grade sets and pricing out the cards > individually. He's met a lot of OBC'ers at the National in Chicago, a > genuinely nice guy always wearing an OSU hat, and he knows several of us > personally. Most of the stars listed above are in about VG condition. I've > just removed a bunch of price tags from semi-rigid card holders and it's > constantly like "Book Value $25, Our Price $2" which we all recognize as a > good < 5% price for P/F stars and commons. But these cards were mostly VG, > some G/VG, a bunch VG/EX - and on top of the terrific pricing, Dave tries > to give an extra OBC discount on the whole bunch (which I turn down, > because it's already a great value). He said he really admired our group's > collecting philosophy and that it was a sincere pleasure dealing with > anyone from the group - he felt he could trust us to keep an eye on one end > of his table while he did business at the other end. > Not sure of the exact OBC/AC process to nominate Dave for Certified Dealer > status, but for the benefit of the group, he needs to be in there. Here's > his schedule for the next few months: > 9/22-24 Valley Forge PA > 10/6-8 White Plains NY > 10/13-15 Chantilly VA > 11/02-05 Shriner's Boston MA > 11/24-26 Moeller, Cincinnati OH > 12/1-3 Valley Forge PA > More details later for contact information. > Git 'er done, OBC/AC. > Best, > WMD > [image: Inline image 1] ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:26:48 -0400 Subject: ebay help From: ED SCHOTT who out there is an ebay expert buyer? I can use some help ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:33:47 -0700 To: ED SCHOTT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help From: Rick Not sure what you mean by expert buyer but I buy 90% of my cards there. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 21, 2017, at 3:26 PM, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > who out there is an ebay expert buyer? > I can use some help > thanks > EDDIE ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:45:25 -0700 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, biggies@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? From: wite3 ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:56:40 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help From: Ken M Ed,   What's going on? I've bought a bunch of stuff on eBay over the last 25 years or so. I don't know if that makes me an expert or not, but I still am an industry expert if that will help :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 6:26 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] ebay help ================= To: "'Doug DeJong'" , Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 19:57:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: "Sal Domino" We need 5 recommendations. We have Doug, Eddie, Wayne and now myself. Dave and his wife are terrific folks. They have the kind of stuff at the kind ofprices we look for. I did well in Chicago and White Plains with him. We need one more. Anyone remember going to his table in Chicago and getting some deals on maybe those 52T=E2=99s or early Bowmans? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 4:19 PM To: ED SCHOTT Cc: Wayne Delia; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright Dave's table has been the highlight of my trips to the Moeller Shows in Cincinnati and I have gotten some amazing deals from him. Highly recommended. On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Dave and his wife have always treated me well Ive purchased from them at Chantilly and Philly Real nice folks and our kind of deals and prices.. highly recommend On 8/21/2017 12:15 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Some of you on the Facebook OBC page saw the details of my excellent haul this weekend at the East Coast National, which I will summarize here. Most/all of these listed are from a terrific dealer, Dave Estright: 1949 Bowman: 12 commons VG 1952 Bowman: 1 common VG 1953 Topps: 21 commons G/VG 1954 Bowman: 1 common & Piersall #210 1954 Topps: 144 commons VG/EX (90 different) 1955 Bowman: Kiner 1955 Topps: 7 commons 1956 Topps: 3 commons & Pascual, Piersall 1957 Topps: 26 commons EX/MT, Roberts 1958 Topps: 32 commons EX/MT, Pinson (2), Hodges, Banks AS (2), Aaron AS, Braves Fence Busters, Snider, Flood, Newcombe, Ford, League Presidents 1959 Topps: 1 high number common, Frick, Giants Team, Fairly RC, Destruction Crew, Cardinals Team, Red Sox Team, Fence Busters, Cepeda, Aparicio, Doby(3), Dodgers Team, McDougald, Mathews, Ford, Mays Catch (2), Kaline Bat Champ, Hustler Banks, Cuellar RC, Yankees Team, Pirates Team, Kaline AS 1960 Topps: 4 high number commons, Kaat RC, Martin, Mound Magicians, Aparicio, Roberts, Mathews, Spahn, Drysdale, Drysdale AS, Pierce AS 1961 Topps: 1 common, 4 high number commons, Richards AS, Perry AS, Bunning, Banks AS, Yankees Team, Ford, M. Alou RC, 60 AL HR Leaders, Yastrzemski 1962 Topps: 9 high number commons, Spahn No-Hit Form, AL/NL HR Kings, B. Robinson, Stengel, NL Batting Leaders, Kaline, Cepeda 1963 Topps: 9 commons, Colt .45s team, Braves Team, Dodgers Team, Cepeda, Bunning 1964 Topps: Yastrzemski, Brock 1965 Topps: McLain 1967 Topps: Pirates Team, Schoendienst, J. Niekro RC, McCarver 1968 Topps: Mays, Yastrzemski 1971 Kelloggs: Banks 1971 Topps Super: Clemente, B. Robinson Total cost: about $300. I rarely itemize cards like these but the deal was so good I tried to figure out what I was missing. I'll look him up in Valley Forge and I won't care if I don't stop at any other dealer tables. Dave specializes in buying collector-grade sets and pricing out the cards individually. He's met a lot of OBC'ers at the National in Chicago, a genuinely nice guy always wearing an OSU hat, and he knows several of us personally. Most of the stars listed above are in about VG condition. I've just removed a bunch of price tags from semi-rigid card holders and it's constantlylike "Book Value $25, Our Price $2" which we all recognize as a good < 5% price for P/F stars and commons. But these cards were mostly VG, some G/VG,a bunch VG/EX - and on top of the terrific pricing, Dave tries to give an extra OBC discount on the whole bunch (which I turn down, because it's already a great value). He said he really admired our group's collecting philosophy and that it was a sincere pleasure dealing with anyone from the group - he felt he could trust us to keep an eye on one end of his table while hedid business at the other end. Not sure of the exact OBC/AC process to nominate Dave for Certified Dealer status, but for the benefit of the group, he needs to be in there. Here's his schedule for the next few months: 9/22-24 Valley Forge PA 10/6-8 White Plains NY 10/13-15 Chantilly VA 11/02-05 Shriner's Boston MA 11/24-26 Moeller, Cincinnati OH 12/1-3 Valley Forge PA More details later for contact information. Git 'er done, OBC/AC. Inline image 1 ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:00:45 -0400 To: Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: Yahoo I would vote for him also. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 21, 2017, at 19:57, 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > We need 5 recommendations. We have Doug, Eddie, Wayne and now myself. Dave and his wife are terrific folks. They have the kind of stuff at the kind of prices we look for. I did well in Chicago and White Plains with him. Weneed one more. Anyone remember going to his table in Chicago and getting some deals on maybe those 52T=E2=99s or early Bowmans? > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 4:19 PM > To: ED SCHOTT > Cc: Wayne Delia; OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright > Dave's table has been the highlight of my trips to the Moeller Shows in Cincinnati and I have gotten some amazing deals from him. Highly recommended. > Doug > On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Dave and his wife have always treated me well > Ive purchased from them at Chantilly and Philly > Real nice folks and our kind of deals and prices.. > highly recommend > On 8/21/2017 12:15 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Some of you on the Facebook OBC page saw the details of my excellent haulthis weekend at the East Coast National, which I will summarize here. Most/all of these listed are from a terrific dealer, Dave Estright: > 1949 Bowman: 12 commons VG > 1952 Bowman: 1 common VG > 1953 Topps: 21 commons G/VG > 1954 Bowman: 1 common & Piersall #210 > 1954 Topps: 144 commons VG/EX (90 different) > 1955 Bowman: Kiner > 1955 Topps: 7 commons > 1956 Topps: 3 commons & Pascual, Piersall > 1957 Topps: 26 commons EX/MT, Roberts > 1958 Topps: 32 commons EX/MT, Pinson (2), Hodges, Banks AS (2), Aaron AS,Braves Fence Busters, Snider, Flood, Newcombe, Ford, League Presidents > 1959 Topps: 1 high number common, Frick, Giants Team, Fairly RC, Destruction Crew, Cardinals Team, Red Sox Team, Fence Busters, Cepeda, Aparicio, Doby (3), Dodgers Team, McDougald, Mathews, Ford, Mays Catch (2), Kaline Bat Champ, Hustler Banks, Cuellar RC, Yankees Team, Pirates Team, Kaline AS > 1960 Topps: 4 high number commons, Kaat RC, Martin, Mound Magicians, Aparicio, Roberts, Mathews, Spahn, Drysdale, Drysdale AS, Pierce AS > 1961 Topps: 1 common, 4 high number commons, Richards AS, Perry AS, Bunning, Banks AS, Yankees Team, Ford, M. Alou RC, 60 AL HR Leaders, Yastrzemski > 1962 Topps: 9 high number commons, Spahn No-Hit Form, AL/NL HR Kings, B. Robinson, Stengel, NL Batting Leaders, Kaline, Cepeda > 1963 Topps: 9 commons, Colt .45s team, Braves Team, Dodgers Team, Cepeda,Bunning > 1964 Topps: Yastrzemski, Brock > 1965 Topps: McLain > 1967 Topps: Pirates Team, Schoendienst, J. Niekro RC, McCarver > 1968 Topps: Mays, Yastrzemski > 1971 Kelloggs: Banks > 1971 Topps Super: Clemente, B. Robinson > Total cost: about $300. I rarely itemize cards like these but the deal was so good I tried to figure out what I was missing. I'll look him up in Valley Forge and I won't care if I don't stop at any other dealer tables. > Dave specializes in buying collector-grade sets and pricing out the cardsindividually. He's met a lot of OBC'ers at the National in Chicago, a genuinely nice guy always wearing an OSU hat, and he knows several of us personally. Most of the stars listed above are in about VG condition. I've just removed a bunch of price tags from semi-rigid card holders and it's constantly like "Book Value $25, Our Price $2" which we all recognize as a good < 5% price for P/F stars and commons. But these cards were mostly VG, some G/VG, a bunch VG/EX - and on top of the terrific pricing, Dave tries to give an extra OBC discount on the whole bunch (which I turn down, because it's already a great value). He said he really admired our group's collecting philosophy and that it was a sincere pleasure dealing with anyone from the group - he felt he could trust us to keep an eye on one end of his table while he did business at the other end. > Not sure of the exact OBC/AC process to nominate Dave for Certified Dealer status, but for the benefit of the group, he needs to be in there. Here'shis schedule for the next few months: > 9/22-24 Valley Forge PA > 10/6-8 White Plains NY > 10/13-15 Chantilly VA > 11/02-05 Shriner's Boston MA > 11/24-26 Moeller, Cincinnati OH > 12/1-3 Valley Forge PA > More details later for contact information. > Git 'er done, OBC/AC. > Best, > WMD > ================= To: "'wite3'" , Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:01:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? From: "Sal Domino" Pretty much anyone who remembers their Prodigy ID, made the way with us to AOL and finally where we are today are just plain OLD! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 6:45 PM To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; biggies@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? There is a history on the website and I am not sure if the original directory I have is posted...there were other people around that same time that include david hornish, Phil c., Terry woods, and others. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] " Date: 8/21/17 2:55 PM (GMT-08:00) To: biggies@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? Kent Goto was right behind them, joining in January, 1992 and as we all know, Sal is celebrating his 25th anniversary in OBC this year. I would say anyone who has been active since before 1995, is one of our original pioneers. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 2:03 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC history? With clearly little to do today before the 70% eclipse we will see here in CT I was scouring guys to hit with cards and noticed members since dates and so looked down the list. It looks like Messrs Neill and Summers were the pioneers in Nov of 1991? And the 4some of Tipton, Iverson, Levine and Moore joined up the following month. Realizing we have lost some members over the years might there be other ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 17:05:36 -0700 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help From: Rick I already put in a snipe bid for him Sent from my iPad > On Aug 21, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Ed, > What's going on? I've bought a bunch of stuff on eBay over the last 25years or so. I don't know if that makes me an expert or not, but I still am an industry expert if that will help :-) > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 6:26 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] ebay help > who out there is an ebay expert buyer?I can use some helpthanksEDDIE------------------------------------Posted by: ED SCHOTT ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names atthe end of each posted ================= To: "'Sal Domino'" , Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:16:48 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: "Matt Yudt" I go to Dave=E2=99s table every Philly Show =E2=93 usually before theopening if I am lucky. Echo all the sentiments here. Great people. Happy to be #5! Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 7:58 PM To: 'Doug DeJong' ; 'ED SCHOTT' Cc: 'Wayne Delia' ; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright We need 5 recommendations. We have Doug, Eddie, Wayne and now myself. Dave and his wife are terrific folks. They have the kind of stuff at the kind ofprices we look for. I did well in Chicago and White Plains with him. We need one more. Anyone remember going to his table in Chicago and getting some deals on maybe those 52T=E2=99s or early Bowmans? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 4:19 PM To: ED SCHOTT Cc: Wayne Delia; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright Dave's table has been the highlight of my trips to the Moeller Shows in Cincinnati and I have gotten some amazing deals from him. Highly recommended. On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 4:09 PM, ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Dave and his wife have always treated me well Ive purchased from them at Chantilly and Philly Real nice folks and our kind of deals and prices.. highly recommend On 8/21/2017 12:15 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Some of you on the Facebook OBC page saw the details of my excellent haul this weekend at the East Coast National, which I will summarize here. Most/all of these listed are from a terrific dealer, Dave Estright: 1949 Bowman: 12 commons VG 1952 Bowman: 1 common VG 1953 Topps: 21 commons G/VG 1954 Bowman: 1 common & Piersall #210 1954 Topps: 144 commons VG/EX (90 different) 1955 Bowman: Kiner 1955 Topps: 7 commons 1956 Topps: 3 commons & Pascual, Piersall 1957 Topps: 26 commons EX/MT, Roberts 1958 Topps: 32 commons EX/MT, Pinson (2), Hodges, Banks AS (2), Aaron AS, Braves Fence Busters, Snider, Flood, Newcombe, Ford, League Presidents 1959 Topps: 1 high number common, Frick, Giants Team, Fairly RC, Destruction Crew, Cardinals Team, Red Sox Team, Fence Busters, Cepeda, Aparicio, Doby(3), Dodgers Team, McDougald, Mathews, Ford, Mays Catch (2), Kaline Bat Champ, Hustler Banks, Cuellar RC, Yankees Team, Pirates Team, Kaline AS 1960 Topps: 4 high number commons, Kaat RC, Martin, Mound Magicians, Aparicio, Roberts, Mathews, Spahn, Drysdale, Drysdale AS, Pierce AS 1961 Topps: 1 common, 4 high number commons, Richards AS, Perry AS, Bunning, Banks AS, Yankees Team, Ford, M. Alou RC, 60 AL HR Leaders, Yastrzemski 1962 Topps: 9 high number commons, Spahn No-Hit Form, AL/NL HR Kings, B. Robinson, Stengel, NL Batting Leaders, Kaline, Cepeda 1963 Topps: 9 commons, Colt .45s team, Braves Team, Dodgers Team, Cepeda, Bunning 1964 Topps: Yastrzemski, Brock 1965 Topps: McLain 1967 Topps: Pirates Team, Schoendienst, J. Niekro RC, McCarver 1968 Topps: Mays, Yastrzemski 1971 Kelloggs: Banks 1971 Topps Super: Clemente, B. Robinson Total cost: about $300. I rarely itemize cards like these but the deal was so good I tried to figure out what I was missing. I'll look him up in Valley Forge and I won't care if I don't stop at any other dealer tables. Dave specializes in buying collector-grade sets and pricing out the cards individually. He's met a lot of OBC'ers at the National in Chicago, a genuinely nice guy always wearing an OSU hat, and he knows several of us personally. Most of the stars listed above are in about VG condition. I've just removed a bunch of price tags from semi-rigid card holders and it's constantlylike "Book Value $25, Our Price $2" which we all recognize as a good < 5% price for P/F stars and commons. But these cards were mostly VG, some G/VG,a bunch VG/EX - and on top of the terrific pricing, Dave tries to give an extra OBC discount on the whole bunch (which I turn down, because it's already a great value). He said he really admired our group's collecting philosophy and that it was a sincere pleasure dealing with anyone from the group - he felt he could trust us to keep an eye on one end of his table while hedid business at the other end. Not sure of the exact OBC/AC process to nominate Dave for Certified Dealer status, but for the benefit of the group, he needs to be in there. Here's his schedule for the next few months: 9/22-24 Valley Forge PA 10/6-8 White Plains NY 10/13-15 Chantilly VA 11/02-05 Shriner's Boston MA 11/24-26 Moeller, Cincinnati OH 12/1-3 Valley Forge PA More details later for contact information. Git 'er done, OBC/AC. ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:00:39 -0700 To: Ken M , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help From: Rick Other ebayers can chime in not counting bin I can win anything on eBay without sniping. Too many people use it now so without totally over bidding someone always bids over you if you don't snipe. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Ken M wrote: > Thanks Rick. I wouldn't have been able to help him anyway. I don't use any sniping programs - probably better for me financially that way :-) > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Rick > Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 8:05 PM > To: Ken M; > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help > I already put in a snipe bid for him > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 21, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Ed, >> What's going on? I've bought a bunch of stuff on eBay over the last 25 years or so. I don't know if that makes me an expert or not, but I still am an industry expert if that will help :-) >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 6:26 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; >> Cc: >> Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] ebay help >> who out there is an ebay expert buyer?I can use some helpthanksEDDIE------------------------------------Posted by: ED SCHOTT ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind member >> Reply via web post =E2=A2 Reply to sender =E2=A2 Reply to group =E2=A2 Start a New Topic =E2=A2 Messages in this topic (3) >> Have you tried the highest rated email app? >> With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. >> The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. >> Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. >> OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html ================= Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:02:52 -0700 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help From: Rick Can't win Sent from my iPad > On Aug 21, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Other ebayers can chime in not counting bin I can win anything on eBay without sniping. Too many people use it now so without totally over bidding someone always bids over you if you don't snipe. > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Ken M wrote: >> Thanks Rick. I wouldn't have been able to help him anyway. I don't use any sniping programs - probably better for me financially that way :-) >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: Rick >> Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 8:05 PM >> To: Ken M; >> Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; >> Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay help >> I already put in a snipe bid for him >> Sent from my iPad >>> On Aug 21, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Ed, >>> What's going on? I've bought a bunch of stuff on eBay over the last 25 years or so. I don't know if that makes me an expert or not, but I stillam an industry expert if that will help :-) >>> Ken M >>> Sent from my not so smart phone. >>> ------ Original message------ >>> From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Date: Mon, Aug 21, 2017 6:26 PM >>> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; >>> Cc: >>> Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] ebay help >>> who out there is an ebay expert buyer?I can use some helpthanksEDDIE------------------------------------Posted by: ED SCHOTT ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind member >>> Have you tried the highest rated email app? >>> With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated emailapp on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 01:31:05 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Dave Estright From: Ron Perry Hi OBC, I vote for Dave as well. He was at Strongsville, Robert Morris and the National. He has a good selection of collector grade with very fair with pricing. ================= To: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:44:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: "George Vrechek" We should get a photo of him in that others probably know him by sight. If he is added to the certified dealer list, we'll need a photo anyway. ================= To: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:47:30 -0500 Subject: Re: OBC history? From: "George Vrechek" I thought Tom Housley had a list on this that he sent out this year. If memory serves me, the early dates of joining were not all known. Maybe we can fill in the blanks. Do you get an OBC pension after 25 years? ================= To: "'George Vrechek'" , Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 21:53:16 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC history? From: "Sal Domino" LOL yes, you are guaranteed one flat a year forever! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:48 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC history? I thought Tom Housley had a list on this that he sent out this year. If memory serves me, the early dates of joining were not all known. Maybe we can fill in the blanks. Do you get an OBC pension after 25 years? ================= To: "OCTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 03:59:54 +0000 Subject: Nate wasn't booing me From: Taylor Schock Nate Mack sends an SCP SP from the 1965 Topps set with a Booooooog Powell card upgrade. Thanks Nate! ================= Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 07:10:17 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposed OBC Certified dealer: Dave Estright From: joe8941@aol.com Cosign on Ed's take, great bargain cards and a very nice family. Two thumbs Joe Adriance Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Monday, August 21, 2017 ED SCHOTT easchott Dave and his wife have always treated me well Ive purchased from them at Chantilly and Philly Real nice folks and our kind of deals and prices.. highly recommend On 8/21/2017 12:15 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Some of you on the Facebook OBC page saw the details of my excellent haul this weekend at the East Coast National, which I will summarize here. Most/all of these listed are from a terrific dealer, Dave Estright: 1949 Bowman: 12 commons VG 1952 Bowman: 1 common VG 1953 Topps: 21 commons G/VG 1954 Bowman: 1 common & Piersall #210 1954 Topps: 144 commons VG/EX (90 different) 1955 Bowman: Kiner 1955 Topps: 7 commons 1956 Topps: 3 commons & Pascual, Piersall 1957 Topps: 26 commons EX/MT, Roberts 1958 Topps: 32 commons EX/MT, Pinson (2), Hodges, Banks AS (2), Aaron AS, Braves Fence Busters, Snider, Flood, Newcombe, Ford, League Presidents 1959 Topps: 1 high number common, Frick, Giants Team, Fairly RC, Destruction Crew, Cardinals Team, Red Sox Team, Fence Busters, Cepeda, Aparicio, Doby(3), Dodgers Team, McDougald, Mathews, Ford, Mays Catch (2), Kaline Bat Champ, Hustler Banks, Cuellar RC, Yankees Team, Pirates Team, Kaline AS 1960 Topps: 4 high number commons, Kaat RC, Martin, Mound Magicians, Aparicio, Roberts, Mathews, Spahn, Drysdale, Drysdale AS, Pierce AS 1961 Topps: 1 common, 4 high number commons, Richards AS, Perry AS, Bunning, Banks AS, Yankees Team, Ford, M. Alou RC, 60 AL HR Leaders, Yastrzemski 1962 Topps: 9 high number commons, Spahn No-Hit Form, AL/NL HR Kings, B. Robinson, Stengel, NL Batting Leaders, Kaline, Cepeda 1963 Topps: 9 commons, Colt .45s team, Braves Team, Dodgers Team, Cepeda, Bunning 1964 Topps: Yastrzemski, Brock 1965 Topps: McLain 1967 Topps: Pirates Team, Schoendienst, J. Niekro RC, McCarver 1968 Topps: Mays, Yastrzemski 1971 Kelloggs: Banks 1971 Topps Super: Clemente, B. Robinson Total cost: about $300. I rarely itemize cards like these but the deal was so good I tried to figure out what I was missing. I'll look him up in Valley Forge and I won't care if I don't stop at any other dealer tables. Dave specializes in buying collector-grade sets and pricing out the cards individually. He's met a lot of OBC'ers at the National in Chicago, a genuinely nice guy always wearing an OSU hat, and he knows several of us personally. Most of the stars listed above are in about VG condition. I've just removed a bunch of price tags from semi-rigid card holders and it's constantlylike "Book Value $25, Our Price $2" which we all recognize as a good < 5% price for P/F stars and commons. But these cards were mostly VG, some G/VG,a bunch VG/EX - and on top of the terrific pricing, Dave tries to give an extra OBC discount on the whole bunch (which I turn down, because it's already a great value). He said he really admired our group's collecting philosophy and that it was a sincere pleasure dealing with anyone from the group - he felt he could trust us to keep an eye on one end of his table while hedid business at the other end. Not sure of the exact OBC/AC process to nominate Dave for Certified Dealer status, but for the benefit of the group, he needs to be in there. Here's his schedule for the next few months: 9/22-24 Valley Forge PA 10/6-8 White Plains NY 10/13-15 Chantilly VA 11/02-05 Shriner's Boston MA 11/24-26 Moeller, Cincinnati OH 12/1-3 Valley Forge PA More details later for contact information. 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From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Keith Summers was not a part of the original group on Prodigy back in the early days. That join date is wrong. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 13:28:23 -0400 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: OBC history? From: Joshua Levine Here is the line-up from the very first paper OBC directory from Prodigy. This list lists address and prodigy i.d.s and a short blurb about collecting focus. I think this was produced sometime in late 1991 or early 1992. I also have the second paper directory that lists prodigy and aol i.d. that was produced sometime later...in between prodigy and AOL OBC actually tried out GEine (an online service owned by GE) but it was an awful interface so we went to AOL. By the way, we settled on moving because Prodigy started charging a .25 fee for emails!! Can you imagine that today!! Al Autry Bruce Barnard Phil Chimelewski Beau Day William Dibert Ryan Disterlath George Evanoff Frank Forest Walter Hitchcock Dave Hornish Peter Iverson Artie Johnson Jeff Johnson Rick Keating Todd Knowles Joshua Levine Mike McCrary Len Medeiros Dan Morrill Michael Morrison Bob Neill Dave Ostroff Fred Parrow Bob Sells Mark Shelton Keith Summers Ryan Tewell Victor Timmons Larry Tipton Terry Woods Bryan Yorktown -----Original Message----- From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc Ramblings Sent: Tue, Aug 22, 2017 7:18 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: OBC history? Keith Summers was not a part of the original group on Prodigy back in the early days. That join date is wrong. Posted by: LAWRENCE TIPTON The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: 22 Aug 2017 19:40:52 +0000 To: Subject: Can anyone beat eBay on this 59 Mantle AS From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:41:50 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: WAIVER WIRE! 1977 Topps Star Wars and 1980 Empire Strikes Back From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, I have a stack of 116 dupes from the 1977 Topps Star Wars set (99 from Series 1, 16 from Series 2, and a sticker). I also have about 400 or so extra cards from 1980 Topps Empire Strikes Back. The last card in the box is #262. I also have #19 from the sticker set as well. Let me know if you have specific needs or if you want a starter set. Thanks! ================= Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 01:14:56 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... From: Jim Thayer I was looking at the Set Collectors Recognition Levels page just now, and Isaw 12 people on the list. Basically, it appears Mike Rich is well above the other 11. I was curious to know who else MIGHT be working onthis goal that is NOT currently on the list because they just don't have enough cards yet?? I assume there are other people actively working onthis, but it's not noted anywhere?? Is there anyway that we can finda spot on that page OR possibly noted right next to their name in the directory so that we all know. I personally would like to see who's working on it, and try and help those individuals out, especially if they are below any of the levels. Any thoughts on this? I've been considering starting it myself, but still torn if I should just continue to focus on HOF RCs and my other smaller projects, or go ahead and make the plunge. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 21:16:08 -0400 To: Jim Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... From: Joel Freedman Hi Jimi, I am actively working towards 35000, ~500 to go=85=85 https://sites.google.com/site/jefreedman1/home On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I was looking at the Set Collectors Recognition Levels page just now, andI saw 12 people on the list. Basically, it appears Mike Rich is well above the other 11. I was curious to know who else MIGHT be working on this goal that is NOT currently on the list because they just don't have enough cards yet?? I assume there are other people actively working on this, but it's not noted anywhere?? Is there anyway that we can find a spot on that page OR possibly noted right next to their name in the directory so that we all know. I personally would like to see who's working on it, and try and help those individuals out, especially if they are below any of the levels. Any thoughts on this? I've been considering starting it myself, but stilltorn if I should just continue to focus on HOF RCs and my other smaller projects, or go ahead and make the plunge. > Jimi ================= To: "'Joel Freedman'" , Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 22:10:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... From: "Matt Yudt" Hi Jimi I am too. Just added football this year and should be over 30K by 2018. Do it! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 9:16 PM To: Jim Thayer Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Hi Jimi, I am actively working towards 35000, ~500 to go.. https://sites.google.com/site/jefreedman1/home On Aug 22, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: I was looking at the Set Collectors Recognition Levels page just now, and I saw 12 people on the list. Basically, it appears Mike Rich is well above the other 11. I was curious to know who else MIGHT be working on this goal that is NOT currently on the list because they just don't have enough cards yet?? I assume there are other people actively working on this, but it's not noted anywhere?? Is there anyway that we can find a spot on that page OR possibly noted right next to their name in the directory so that we all know. I personally would like to see who's working on it, and try and help those individuals out, especially if they are below any of the levels. Any thoughts on this? I've been considering starting it myself, but still torn if I should just continue to focus on HOF RCs and my other smaller projects, or go ahead and make the plunge. ================= To: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 23:11:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... From: "George Vrechek" Jimi's question. Delighted you brought it up. To varying degrees I think we are all working towards increasing our collections of vintage sports cards. The levels I proposed seem to have turned out to be challenging, yet achievable. To get to the 35,000 mark you likely need to collect the majority of the popular post-war cards in several sports. Once you are at 35,000, the going gets tougher. I have seen many of us expand our wantlists (which was the whole idea based on Burdick's advice) and add maybe a few thousand cards each year. Adding 2-3,000 cards annually requires effort, so it looks like the typical OBCer might take 6 years or more to get to the next level. As of 2005. three or four guys including Joel Freedman reported to me that they were within a few years of the 35,000 mark. I think there are a few guys who don't want to add up their cards and/or get recognized. I'm chugging along with a few others within a few thousand of 50,000 cards. Mike Rich, as they say, is in a league of his own. Collectors can chose to advertise their goal on their wantlist, if they are so inclined. I do. I am happy that the concept has gotten interest and to hear when people have reached another level. I update the lists. As a reminder, the set recognition level stuff can be found as the last line at the top of the directory page, and you access it by password to review the quite extensive rules as determined by "the committee" (yours truly). I am looking forward to hearing from anyone who hits a new level. Also remember that non-sports collectors are also recognized in a very small George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:26:01 -0400 To: jimivintage@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition From: Mike Glasser I'm working on it but haven't taken the time to count my collection yet. One of these days.. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tue, Aug 22, 2017 9:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... I was looking at the Set Collectors Recognition Levels page just now, and Isaw 12 people on the list. Basically, it appears Mike Rich is well above the other 11. I was curious to know who else MIGHT be working on this goalthat is NOT currently on the list because they just don't have enough cards yet?? I assume there are other people actively working on this, but it'snot noted anywhere?? Is there anyway that we can find a spot on that pageOR possibly noted right next to their name in the directory so that we allknow. I personally would like to see who's working on it, and try and help those individuals out, especially if they are below any of the levels. Any thoughts on this? I've been considering starting it myself, but still torn if I should just continue to focus on HOF RCs and my other smaller projects, or go ahead and make the plunge. ================= To: George Vrechek Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 01:30:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:11:17 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... From: Robert Fitts Does the 35000 card mark include post 1980 cards? If it does, a complete baseball set run from 1950 to 2017 is 67 years. At 500-600 cards per set that should hit very close to 35000. So I would think many of us have that number. With 20 years of modern Japanese sets as well im probably close to 50000 Rob fitts Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:20:29 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition From: Ken M Rob,  As I understand it, the cutoff is 1980 (or 80-81 for sets like hockey and basketball). So only your vintage cards count towards the total. On the bright side, I'd imagine vintage Japanese baseball cards would count (and would probably add a few thousand to the vintage collecting universe, as the committee may not have accounted for those). Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Aug 23, 2017 10:11 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels....question.... Does the 35000 card mark include post 1980 cards? If it does, a complete baseball set run from 1950 to 2017 is 67 years. At 500-600 cards per set that should hit very close to 35000. So I would think many of us have that number. With 20 years of modern Japanese sets as well im probably close to 50000Rob fittsSent from my iPhone------------------------------------Posted by: Robert Fitts ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html- ================= To: "mikerw7@gmail.com" , "jimivintage@yahoo.com" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:10:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Re: Two sets killed by Glasser! And I need From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: 25 Aug 2017 01:07:34 +0000 To: Subject: Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to look old? From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "jehutch75@gmail.com" Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:09:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:46:25 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Post Grizzlies-Season Waiver Wire! From: Jake Brewer So the Grizzlies season for me is very intense; its filled with 16 hour gamedays, late nights, and lots of fun! The problem is that I dont have much time for anything else. Now that the season's over (WE ARE THE CPL CHAMPIONS!!!!) I can do this waiver I already went through the people that I owe, so these are FCFS! Claim one,or claim all! Without further ado: '55 Topps: 29, 117 x2, 136 '60 Topps: 69, 75, 80, 213 '61 Topps: 12, 108, 148, 163, 195, 197, 216, 251 '62 Topps: 12, 62 '63 Topps: 88 '64 Topps: 31 x2, 39, 54, 68, 72, 156, 165, 170, 189, 198 '65 Topps: 28, 541 '66 Topps: 42, 49, 122 '67 Topps: 4, 7, 9, 11, 59, 71 x2, 81, 96, 114, 115, 119, 125, 129, 136, 160, 163, 171, 176, 177, 196, 223, 224, 240, 262, 274, 298, 344, 345, 364, 425, 431, 435 '68 Topps: 4 x2, 8, 12, 18, 19, 28, 38, 42, 56, 62, 73, 79, 91 x2, 93, 105,109, 218, 219, 232, 238, 241, 242, 243, 246 x2, 248 x2, 249, 254, 261, 267, 270, 273, 283, 284, 292, 298, 300, 342, 387, 388, 412, 436, 476, 597 '69 Topps: 4, 24, 38 x2, 45, 48, 53, 59, 62, 76, 84 x2, 88, 89, 94, 96, 97,107, 117, 132, 139 x3, 147, 158, 206, 264, 332, 342, 359, 365 x2, 387, 404, '69 Deckle Edge: 13 Please include your address! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:02:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to From: Aaron Shirley I say fake. Corners too sharp. But my wallet always tells me cards are fake. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 8:07 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to lookold? Card looks too clean, and the creases look like they were all added at the same time...I am leery of this card, even at only 30 bucks. What does everyone http://www.ebay.com/itm/172834836397?ul_noapptrue [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/172834836397-0-1/s-l1000.jpg] 1969 Topps #500 Mickey Mantle, Yankees, HOF, poor/fair condition | eBay Poor/Fair condition with several creases and a dried glue spot on the upperleft corner of front surface; and the back surface is very rough (looks like it was pulled out of a scrapbook). See photos for details. | eBay! Thanks for any advice ================= Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:05:16 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to From: ricktopps@aol.com My initial thought was in agreement that a couple of corners looked nearly perfect and yet the card had numerous huge creases. That is unusual and cansuggest some doctoring of a reprint. With that being said, I do take into the account that the seller has perfect feedback and is selling many other vintage cards that are fine. My guess is that he wouldn't knowingly be selling a Mantle for $30 if he thought it wasn't real. I also don't think it islikely that this seller was doctoring a reprint so he could get $30. In the end I could see this one going either way, but I suspect it is real. I would contact the seller and share my concerns and if he got defensive I would back out. If he believed it was real, I would believe hime and take the chance if I thought it was a good deal. In my opinion, I think you can find a nicer Mantle or one for a few dollars more if you keep looking. Rick Johnson -----Original Message----- From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 24, 2017 8:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to lookold? Card looks too clean, and the creases look like they were all added at the same time...I am leery of this card, even at only 30 bucks. What does everyone http://www.ebay.com/itm/172834836397?ul_noapptrue Thanks for any advice ================= Date: 25 Aug 2017 03:30:31 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need an expert eye- is this a reprint made to look old? From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 04:55:29 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 From: Matthew Glidden Great price if you don't mind the pen... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142485906362?vectorid=229466&lgeo=1&item=142485906362&rmvSB=true ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:37:51 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 From: "Sal Domino" I put in an offer, let=E2=99s see what happens=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:55 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 Great price if you don't mind the pen... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142485906362?vectorid229466 &lgeo1&item142485906362&rmvSBtrue ================= Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 05:41:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "Domino, Sal" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 From: Geordie Calvert Sal, I put in an offer of $1.37, so I'm afraid your offer of $1.35 is no good. ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "Matthew Glidden" , "obc ramblings" Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:37:51 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 I put in an offer, let=E2=99s see what happens=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:55 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 Great price if you don't mind the pen... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142485906362?vectorid229466&lgeo1&item142485906362&rmvSBtrue ================= Date: 25 Aug 2017 05:58:51 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 00:34:38 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 From: "Sal Domino" Put in an offer for $27 and won it. Looks real. I wrote the guy who understood my concern with it being authentic. Told me it was in his collection for 30 years. Good feedback so this is the 2nd high 52T in a week. Got one inWhite Plains for $25. Thanks for the tip Spike! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 1:59 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 Is there some way we can get GGS to grade it before we make offers? Otherwise, I don't know if I can properly evaluate it. ---In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sal, I put in an offer of $1.37, so I'm afraid your offer of $1.35 is no good. From: "'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@... [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "Matthew Glidden" , "obc ramblings" Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:37:51 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 I put in an offer, let=E2=99s see what happens=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@... [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017 12:55 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Adcock #347 w/writing for $35 Great price if you don't mind the pen... http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142485906362?vectorid229466 &lgeo1&item142485906362&rmvSBtrue ================= Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:27:04 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Set killed From: Rick Mac Wubben volunteered to be my designated shopper at the national and picked up the last card I needed for the 64 Venezuelan set. I need four cards to kill the 62 set and two to kill the 66 set. Thanks Mac. Rick ================= Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 10:55:56 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed [1 Attachment] From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Congratulations! Completing a Venezuelan set is a major accomplishment. 1964 is my closest as well, as I am down to a baker's dozen, but they are all star or listed cards. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 1:27 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Mac Wubben volunteered to be my designated shopper at the national and picked up the last card I needed for the 64 Venezuelan set. I need four cards to kill the 62 set and two to kill the 66 set. Thanks Mac. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= To: "rick.lyons22@yahoo.com" , Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:53:43 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed From: Mac Wubben But does it include this nifty variation? Congrats on the major accomplishment! I'm about 20 away, but might as wellbe 200...as there are a lot of tough ones on there. Happy I found the oneyou From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:55 AM To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed Congratulations! Completing a Venezuelan set is a major accomplishment. 1964 is my closest as well, as I am down to a baker's dozen, but they are all star or listed cards. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 1:27 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Mac Wubben volunteered to be my designated shopper at the national and picked up the last card I needed for the 64 Venezuelan set. I need four cards to kill the 62 set and two to kill the 66 set. Thanks Mac. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 17:59:01 -0400 To: obcmac@hotmail.com, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ^&(*(*)_(+_ Now I am going to have to check every dupe for variations! Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Mac Wubben To: rick.lyons22 ; OBC-Ramblings ; mikesportsfan Sent: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed But does it include this nifty variation? Congrats on the major accomplishment! I'm about 20 away, but might as wellbe 200...as there are a lot of tough ones on there. Happy I found the oneyou From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:55 AM To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed Congratulations! Completing a Venezuelan set is a major accomplishment. 1964 is my closest as well, as I am down to a baker's dozen, but they are all star or listed cards. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 1:27 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set killed [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Mac Wubben volunteered to be my designated shopper at the national and picked up the last card I needed for the 64 Venezuelan set. I need four cards to kill the 62 set and two to kill the 66 set. Thanks Mac. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 28 Aug 2017 22:33:57 +0000 To: Subject: Harvey update From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 19:17:56 -0500 Subject: 1978 Topps - 7 to go From: mark zentkovich ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:00:55 -0500 Subject: 78 topps, last one From: mark zentkovich thanks to Bob Donaldson, last one needed for 78 topps baseball 637 duffy dyer can anyone knock this off? thanks, Mark Zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= To: Shawn Smart , Bob Donaldson Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:01:37 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Wantlist] 78 topps baseball- all set now! From: mark zentkovich ================= Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 10:51:27 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Harvey update From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Father Pat called back this morning. It is just starting to rain in Slidell and so far it is just a rain event and not worried yet. He is in his 3rdweek as being President of the high school in his area. This is in addition to his regular pastoral duties so he said he is learning to operate on 4hours sleep a nite His time for cards will be minimal for a while, as he gets fully acclimated. Still waiting to hear from Brandon, although Pat said his area is far enough north that he should not have too many problems. So not only does it appear that our OBC brethren will come out of this OK, but their cards will remain Prayers still needed for these impacted areas. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 6:34 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Harvey update I made some calls yesterday to check in on some of our OBC brethren who might be affected by Hurricane Harvey. Nate Mack said as luck would have it, his house is up high and as of last nite had no flooding in his area - yet.His biggest issue right now is he had some foot surgery a few weeks ago and is still rehabbing. So he has been off work already. I am going to wait a week before sending anything his way, as mail is not likely to get delivered this week. Many streets near him are flooded out, especially the highways. I also spoke with Doug Smith. While his house is north of the current storm area, he is heading out to stay with his son in Minnesota for a while anyday now. Doug said he will not be available on line for a while. I left messages for Brandon Wax, who I am not sure has fully recovered fromlast year's flooding, and Father Pat Wattigny. My area is being hit with a storm tonite, and rain originally was not supposed to stop for at least 24 hours here. Now it looks like we may get a break for few hours in the morning. After tomorrow we will dry out for a couple of days before the storms down south decide to move up north and affect our weather here. No sympathy for us here, as it is nothing in comparison to what folks are experiencing in TX/LA or even the southeast states with that storm. My lights have flickered a couple of times, so not sure if I could end up with a blackout. My bigger concern is that the storm could affect Mark Talbot and I heading down to Toledo tomorrow for an OBC meet-up with Joe Isaac and John McLaughlin. We are just meeting up for dinner at Frickr's next to the Mud Hens stadium (no game) if anyone wants to join us. if so, best to text or call me in case power does go out. Mike Rich ================= Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:18:20 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1953 to 1955 WAIVER WIRE! - high #s stars, and more From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, Going through my dupes box today, and thought I'd offer these up to people. Please try to remember to list your address. Thanks! 1953 Topps Hemus #231 (high #)1954 Topps Moon #1371954 Topps Kluszewski #71955 Bowman #26, 101, 188, 2011955 Topps Rizzuto #189 (high #'d HOFer!)1955 Topps ================= Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 22:38:42 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1952 Topps #99 From: Ken M ================= Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 22:38:42 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1952 Topps #99 From: Ken M ================= To: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:31:02 -0400 Subject: W517 set From: "Bob Donaldson" A week or so back, someone mentioned the W517 set as a good pre-war set to do. I've been thinking about it for a while and saw a complete set on Net54 for $1500. I pulled the trigger, biggest purchase I've ever made. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=244309 Some T205s, 41 Playballs and Kashins will be on the dealer scum server tonight to cover some of my costs :) ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Bob Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 17:35:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] W517 set From: JAY TYSVER Nice. I like the set because the Ruth picture is one of the nicer cards he is on. It is one I'll probably work on at some point also. Now you may want to get the color variations. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:31 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] W517 set A week or so back, someone mentioned the W517 set as a good pre-war set to do. I=92ve been thinking about it for a while and saw a complete set on Net54 for $1500. I pulled the trigger, biggest purchase I=92ve ever made. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t244309 Some T205s, 41 Playballs and Kashins will be on the dealer scum server tonight to cover some of my costs :) ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 04:45:24 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1960 Fleer and Leaf - WAIVER WIRE! From: Jim Thayer Late night giveaway! 1960 Leaf Gilliam #18 VGEX 1960 Fleer O'Doul #37 VGEX1960 Fleer Miller #39 EX1960 Fleer Newsom #70 VG (with stains on back) Send along address, too, please. Thanks! ================= To: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 10:46:47 -0400 Subject: Website issues From: "Bob Donaldson" Get a Forbidden You don't have permission to access /OBCWCW/directory.php on this server. When I click on the Directory Tab and a 404 page not found when I go directly to my wantlist ================= To: Bob Donaldson , Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:17:44 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Website issues From: mark zentkovich I received similar error messages on my end Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:54 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: 'Wayne Delia' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Website issues Get a Forbidden You don't have permission to access /OBCWCW/directory.php on this server. When I click on the Directory Tab and a 404 page not found when I go directly to my wantlist ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:47:53 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: August 31 web site issues From: Wayne Delia We seem to be having similar problems to the ones we saw about a month ago. These seem to be a little worse - not from a technical standpoint (it's probably a misunderstanding), but rather from a service provider angle. Bob Donaldson's first note alerting me to the problem was received at 10:45AM today. I contacted Network Solutions around noon, as they had not sent me any heads-up alert email letting me know the site was unavailable. The call center guy wasn't too much help, because he's not a coder or a database administrator. I'm waiting to hear back from the technical support engineers before 3PM EST today. If your want list is hosted on the OBC site and you need it, I can email it to you. If technical details put you to sleep, you can stop reading now. ;) ===================================================== Here are my main concerns about the Network Solutions issues over the past month or two: 1) They shut down web sites with no advance notice, and claim it takes up to 24 hours to get the email out to the webmasters about any problems picked up in what appears to be a month-end audit. Nothing of what we're doing is life-threatening or absolutely critical, but if we were a bank, an airline, or a hospital, we'd be screwed. 2) The initial point of contact at NS is not technically knowledgeable, and gets the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes (I imagine) when the technical details are explained to him. 3) The notification sent out for last month's OBC issue described the wrong problem. I was told it was a problem with our web site sending out too many emails; that was a mistake on their end. Apparently, the system detected some of our older script files which had file permissions set so that anyone could potentially alter them. Joe & I went through each of the files and changed permissions so that they could only be read, and not altered. There were not many files which needed to be changed. I sent an email back to their technical support on August 3 describing exactly what I did to correct what they described as the problem, and they got us back online. 4) The apparent month-end audit is a batch job stream run against all shared hosted websites (we're one of them). My best guess is that audit job stream has picked up similar problems, so as it turns out we (OBC) are expected to "boil the ocean" and try to look everywhere to solve problems they haven't specifically identified. That's a pain in the ass. While we're generally very happy with the resources and service NS is providing for us (apart from this issue, of course), we may want to consider switching internet service providers. It would be an uncomfortable process but hopefully it will remove some of these unannounced web site outages and vague "you've got some kind of problem, go find it and fix it yourself" technical service support attitudes. I'll update with any details I find out in the next two-plus hours. ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 20:20:08 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1960 Topps cards (includes HOFers, back variations, and WS) - From: Jim Thayer Hey folks, Continuing through my dupes box this afternoon. Selling/trading a fewon the dealer scum server, and giving away a few here! Please provide address when requesting for these... 1960 Topps WAIVER WIRE!18 Dodgers Team G (unmarked)25 Sievers VG38 Casale VG159 Piersall VGEX173 Martin VG178 Held VG267 Marshall G379w Wilson NRMT387w WS3 Furillo G388g WS4 Hodges VG389g WS5 Aparicio F390g WS6 VG391g World Series Champs VGEX395w Wilhelm VGEX424w Whisenant VG458 White Sox Coaches VGEX460 Indians Coaches VGEX505 Kluszewski VG ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 16:42:19 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Raleigh Card Show Dec 8-9-10 From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Any interest in a OBC =E2=9Cmeet-up=E2=9D for this (advertised) 250 table I saw a Marriott within 10 miles of the show $80 a night (free breakfast) other hotels seem reasonable. Friday: drive/(fly?) to Raleigh show open 2-7 check in to hotel Saturday show hours 9-5 Sunday check out of hotels show hours 10-4 or just head home. I think this is the =E2=9Cbig=E2=9D show for =E2=9CInside Pitch Promotions=E2=9D I=E2=99ll probably go and have room for some =E2=9Ccrashers=E2=9D. ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:18:39 -0400 To: wayne.m.delia@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues From: mikesportsfan@aol.com While I cannot access the OBC site on my computer, both Joe Isaac and I canget to the OBC site on our phones. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 12:56 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues We seem to be having similar problems to the ones we saw about a month ago.These seem to be a little worse - not from a technical standpoint (it's probably a misunderstanding), but rather from a service provider angle. Bob Donaldson's first note alerting me to the problem was received at 10:45AM today. I contacted Network Solutions around noon, as they had not sent me any heads-up alert email letting me know the site was unavailable. The call center guy wasn't too much help, because he's not a coder or a database administrator. I'm waiting to hear back from the technical support engineers before 3PM EST today. If your want list is hosted on the OBC site and you need it, I can email itto If technical details put you to sleep, you can stop reading now. ;) Here are my main concerns about the Network Solutions issues over the past month or two: 1) They shut down web sites with no advance notice, and claim it takes up to 24 hours to get the email out to the webmasters about any problems pickedup in what appears to be a month-end audit. Nothing of what we're doing islife-threatening or absolutely critical, but if we were a bank, an airline, or a hospital, we'd be screwed. 2) The initial point of contact at NS is not technically knowledgeable, andgets the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes (I imagine) when the technical details are explained to him. 3) The notification sent out for last month's OBC issue described the wrongproblem. I was told it was a problem with our web site sending out too many emails; that was a mistake on their end. Apparently, the system detected some of our older script files which had file permissions set so that anyone could potentially alter them. Joe & I went through each of the files and changed permissions so that they could only be read, and not altered. Therewere not many files which needed to be changed. I sent an email back to their technical support on August 3 describing exactly what I did to correct what they described as the problem, and they got us back online. 4) The apparent month-end audit is a batch job stream run against all shared hosted websites (we're one of them). My best guess is that audit job stream has picked up similar problems, so as it turns out we (OBC) are expectedto "boil the ocean" and try to look everywhere to solve problems they haven't specifically identified. That's a pain in the ass. While we're generally very happy with the resources and service NS is providing for us (apart from this issue, of course), we may want to consider switching internet service providers. It would be an uncomfortable process buthopefully it will remove some of these unannounced web site outages and vague "you've got some kind of problem, go find it and fix it yourself" technical service support attitudes. I'll update with any details I find out in the next two-plus hours. ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:30:24 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues From: Wayne Delia The website appears to be back up and running. We're having a few support issues with our ISP, Network Solutions, in that they automatically suspend our website even if the performance problem is on their side. If you're still getting the 404 error page, it's most likely caused by that page still in your browser's cache. I'm using Google Chrome, and I hit the three vertical dots in the upper right corner, select "More Tools," select "Clear Browsing Data," then select "Cached images and files," then I hit the "Clear Browsing Data" button to clear the cache. There will be similar steps to follow for other browsers - or perhaps you can just reboot your On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:18 PM, wrote: > While I cannot access the OBC site on my computer, both Joe Isaac and I > can get to the OBC site on our phones. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 12:56 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues > We seem to be having similar problems to the ones we saw about a month > ago. These seem to be a little worse - not from a technical standpoint > (it's probably a misunderstanding), but rather from a service provider > angle. > Bob Donaldson's first note alerting me to the problem was received at > 10:45AM today. I contacted Network Solutions around noon, as they had not > sent me any heads-up alert email letting me know the site was unavailable. > The call center guy wasn't too much help, because he's not a coder or a > database administrator. I'm waiting to hear back from the technical support > engineers before 3PM EST today. > If your want list is hosted on the OBC site and you need it, I can email > it to you. > If technical details put you to sleep, you can stop reading now. ;) > = > Here are my main concerns about the Network Solutions issues over the past > month or two: > 1) They shut down web sites with no advance notice, and claim it takes up > to 24 hours to get the email out to the webmasters about any problems > picked up in what appears to be a month-end audit. Nothing of what we're > doing is life-threatening or absolutely critical, but if we were a bank, an > airline, or a hospital, we'd be screwed. > 2) The initial point of contact at NS is not technically knowledgeable, > and gets the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes (I imagine) when the > technical details are explained to him. > 3) The notification sent out for last month's OBC issue described the > wrong problem. I was told it was a problem with our web site sending out > too many emails; that was a mistake on their end. Apparently, the system > detected some of our older script files which had file permissions set so > that anyone could potentially alter them. Joe & I went through each of the > files and changed permissions so that they could only be read, and not > altered. There were not many files which needed to be changed. I sent an > email back to their technical support on August 3 describing exactly whatI > did to correct what they described as the problem, and they got us back > online. > 4) The apparent month-end audit is a batch job stream run against all > shared hosted websites (we're one of them). My best guess is that audit job > stream has picked up similar problems, so as it turns out we (OBC) are > expected to "boil the ocean" and try to look everywhere to solve problems > they haven't specifically identified. That's a pain in the ass. > While we're generally very happy with the resources and service NS is > providing for us (apart from this issue, of course), we may want to > consider switching internet service providers. It would be an uncomfortable > process but hopefully it will remove some of these unannounced web site > outages and vague "you've got some kind of problem, go find it and fix it > yourself" technical service support attitudes. > I'll update with any details I find out in the next two-plus hours. > Best, > WMD ================= To: "'Wayne Delia'" , Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 17:44:23 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues From: "Bob Donaldson" Working fine for me with Mozilla Firefox. Thanks for your work! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:30 PM To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues The website appears to be back up and running. We're having a few support issues with our ISP, Network Solutions, in that they automatically suspend our website even if the performance problem is on their side. If you're still getting the 404 error page, it's most likely caused by thatpage still in your browser's cache. I'm using Google Chrome, and I hit thethree vertical dots in the upper right corner, select "More Tools," select"Clear Browsing Data," then select "Cached images and files," then I hit the "Clear Browsing Data" button to clear the cache. There will be similar steps to follow for other browsers - or perhaps you can just reboot your computer. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:18 PM, > wrote: While I cannot access the OBC site on my computer, both Joe Isaac and I canget to the OBC site on our phones. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 12:56 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues We seem to be having similar problems to the ones we saw about a month ago.These seem to be a little worse - not from a technical standpoint (it's probably a misunderstanding), but rather from a service provider angle. Bob Donaldson's first note alerting me to the problem was received at 10:45AM today. I contacted Network Solutions around noon, as they had not sent me any heads-up alert email letting me know the site was unavailable. The call center guy wasn't too much help, because he's not a coder or a database administrator. I'm waiting to hear back from the technical support engineers before 3PM EST today. If your want list is hosted on the OBC site and you need it, I can email itto If technical details put you to sleep, you can stop reading now. ;) Here are my main concerns about the Network Solutions issues over the past month or two: 1) They shut down web sites with no advance notice, and claim it takes up to 24 hours to get the email out to the webmasters about any problems pickedup in what appears to be a month-end audit. Nothing of what we're doing islife-threatening or absolutely critical, but if we were a bank, an airline, or a hospital, we'd be screwed. 2) The initial point of contact at NS is not technically knowledgeable, andgets the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes (I imagine) when the technical details are explained to him. 3) The notification sent out for last month's OBC issue described the wrongproblem. I was told it was a problem with our web site sending out too many emails; that was a mistake on their end. Apparently, the system detected some of our older script files which had file permissions set so that anyone could potentially alter them. Joe & I went through each of the files and changed permissions so that they could only be read, and not altered. Therewere not many files which needed to be changed. I sent an email back to their technical support on August 3 describing exactly what I did to correct what they described as the problem, and they got us back online. 4) The apparent month-end audit is a batch job stream run against all shared hosted websites (we're one of them). My best guess is that audit job stream has picked up similar problems, so as it turns out we (OBC) are expectedto "boil the ocean" and try to look everywhere to solve problems they haven't specifically identified. That's a pain in the ass. While we're generally very happy with the resources and service NS is providing for us (apart from this issue, of course), we may want to consider switching internet service providers. It would be an uncomfortable process buthopefully it will remove some of these unannounced web site outages and vague "you've got some kind of problem, go find it and fix it yourself" technical service support attitudes. I'll update with any details I find out in the next two-plus hours. ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:04:31 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues From: Anthony Thanks as well Working on my iPad Sent from my iPad > On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:44 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Working fine for me with Mozilla Firefox. > Thanks for your work! > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:30 PM > To: mikesportsfan@aol.com > Cc: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues > The website appears to be back up and running. We're having a few supportissues with our ISP, Network Solutions, in that they automatically suspendour website even if the performance problem is on their side. > If you're still getting the 404 error page, it's most likely caused by that page still in your browser's cache. I'm using Google Chrome, and I hit the three vertical dots in the upper right corner, select "More Tools," select "Clear Browsing Data," then select "Cached images and files," then I hitthe "Clear Browsing Data" button to clear the cache. There will be similarsteps to follow for other browsers - or perhaps you can just reboot your computer. > Best, > WMD > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:18 PM, wrote: > While I cannot access the OBC site on my computer, both Joe Isaac and I can get to the OBC site on our phones. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 12:56 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues > We seem to be having similar problems to the ones we saw about a month ago. These seem to be a little worse - not from a technical standpoint (it's probably a misunderstanding), but rather from a service provider angle. > Bob Donaldson's first note alerting me to the problem was received at 10:45AM today. I contacted Network Solutions around noon, as they had not sentme any heads-up alert email letting me know the site was unavailable. The call center guy wasn't too much help, because he's not a coder or a database administrator. I'm waiting to hear back from the technical support engineers before 3PM EST today. > If your want list is hosted on the OBC site and you need it, I can email it to you. > If technical details put you to sleep, you can stop reading now. ;) > = > Here are my main concerns about the Network Solutions issues over the past month or two: > 1) They shut down web sites with no advance notice, and claim it takes upto 24 hours to get the email out to the webmasters about any problems picked up in what appears to be a month-end audit. Nothing of what we're doing is life-threatening or absolutely critical, but if we were a bank, an airline, or a hospital, we'd be screwed. > 2) The initial point of contact at NS is not technically knowledgeable, and gets the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes (I imagine) when the technical details are explained to him. > 3) The notification sent out for last month's OBC issue described the wrong problem. I was told it was a problem with our web site sending out too many emails; that was a mistake on their end. Apparently, the system detected some of our older script files which had file permissions set so that anyone could potentially alter them. Joe & I went through each of the files and changed permissions so that they could only be read, and not altered. There were not many files which needed to be changed. I sent an email back to their technical support on August 3 describing exactly what I did to correct what they described as the problem, and they got us back online. > 4) The apparent month-end audit is a batch job stream run against all shared hosted websites (we're one of them). My best guess is that audit job stream has picked up similar problems, so as it turns out we (OBC) are expected to "boil the ocean" and try to look everywhere to solve problems they haven't specifically identified. That's a pain in the ass. > While we're generally very happy with the resources and service NS is providing for us (apart from this issue, of course), we may want to consider switching internet service providers. It would be an uncomfortable process but hopefully it will remove some of these unannounced web site outages and vague "you've got some kind of problem, go find it and fix it yourself" technical service support attitudes. > I'll update with any details I find out in the next two-plus hours. > Best, > WMD ================= Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:57:00 -0400 To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com, obcbobd@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I followed the below instructions for Internet Explorer and now I can access the site again. Thank you for your efforts and the tips. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Anthony To: Bob Donaldson Cc: Wayne Delia ; mikesportsfan ; OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 7:04 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues Thanks as well Working on my iPad Sent from my iPad On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:44 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Working fine for me with Mozilla Firefox. Thanks for your work! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:30 PM To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues The website appears to be back up and running. We're having a few support issues with our ISP, Network Solutions, in that they automatically suspend our website even if the performance problem is on their side. If you're still getting the 404 error page, it's most likely caused by thatpage still in your browser's cache. I'm using Google Chrome, and I hit thethree vertical dots in the upper right corner, select "More Tools," select"Clear Browsing Data," then select "Cached images and files," then I hit the "Clear Browsing Data" button to clear the cache. There will be similar steps to follow for other browsers - or perhaps you can just reboot your computer. On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:18 PM, wrote: While I cannot access the OBC site on my computer, both Joe Isaac and I canget to the OBC site on our phones. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 31, 2017 12:56 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] August 31 web site issues We seem to be having similar problems to the ones we saw about a month ago.These seem to be a little worse - not from a technical standpoint (it's probably a misunderstanding), but rather from a service provider angle. Bob Donaldson's first note alerting me to the problem was received at 10:45AM today. I contacted Network Solutions around noon, as they had not sent me any heads-up alert email letting me know the site was unavailable. The call center guy wasn't too much help, because he's not a coder or a database administrator. I'm waiting to hear back from the technical support engineers before 3PM EST today. If your want list is hosted on the OBC site and you need it, I can email itto If technical details put you to sleep, you can stop reading now. ;) Here are my main concerns about the Network Solutions issues over the past month or two: 1) They shut down web sites with no advance notice, and claim it takes up to 24 hours to get the email out to the webmasters about any problems pickedup in what appears to be a month-end audit. Nothing of what we're doing islife-threatening or absolutely critical, but if we were a bank, an airline, or a hospital, we'd be screwed. 2) The initial point of contact at NS is not technically knowledgeable, andgets the "deer in the headlights" look in his eyes (I imagine) when the technical details are explained to him. 3) The notification sent out for last month's OBC issue described the wrongproblem. I was told it was a problem with our web site sending out too many emails; that was a mistake on their end. Apparently, the system detected some of our older script files which had file permissions set so that anyone could potentially alter them. Joe & I went through each of the files and changed permissions so that they could only be read, and not altered. Therewere not many files which needed to be changed. I sent an email back to their technical support on August 3 describing exactly what I did to correct what they described as the problem, and they got us back online. 4) The apparent month-end audit is a batch job stream run against all shared hosted websites (we're one of them). My best guess is that audit job stream has picked up similar problems, so as it turns out we (OBC) are expectedto "boil the ocean" and try to look everywhere to solve problems they haven't specifically identified. That's a pain in the ass. While we're generally very happy with the resources and service NS is providing for us (apart from this issue, of course), we may want to consider switching internet service providers. It would be an uncomfortable process buthopefully it will remove some of these unannounced web site outages and vague "you've got some kind of problem, go find it and fix it yourself" technical service support attitudes. I'll update with any details I find out in the next two-plus hours.