================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:48:23 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com Subject: wrongback miscut waiver From: smartalecx@aol.com sorting a box of 75s to help with the Goto project, and came across this front is a nice lolich # 245 back is mostly # 93 lopes, with a little lolich (i think) at the bottom and the right back border of two other cards anyone interested? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 22:23:39 -0400 To: patrick_prickett@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a hero - 1960 Nu Highlites #65 Kaline From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I can pull the Kaline from my near set. I still need a lot. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Jun 30, 2017 6:12 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a hero - 1960 Nu Highlites #65 Kaline Hi All, I'm down to the final card to finish my 1960 Nu High lites - and it's a pretty easy one - #65 Al Kaline. I have MANY dupes from this set, including big names like Ted Williams, Babe Ruth ,etc., and will gladly trade in your favor. Anyone up for being a hero? ================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:55:50 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Great Canadian vacation From: Rick Just got back today from driving 2500 miles thru British Columbia and Alberta then brief stay in Montana. Seen lots of beautiful mountains/lakes/rivers/wildlife right up our alley of things to do followed up by going to the biggest mall in North America so I'm told in Edmonton=A2. I did find a card shop in Calgary that had some vintage cards but didn't pick up much some 52-54 bowman fb,four 62 shirriff BB coins few 73 OPC's for the dupesbox. Now on whidbey island for opening day of crabbing tomorrow morning you fishermen or hunters know what I mean by "opening day". Really enjoyed it we are thinking of doing something similar again next year. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:26:27 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great Canadian vacation From: "Thomas W. Billing" You should have stuck around for today=E2=99s big 150th Canada Day. Huge Tom Billing > On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:55 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just got back today from driving 2500 miles thru British Columbia and Alberta then brief stay in Montana. Seen lots of beautiful mountains/lakes/rivers/wildlife right up our alley of things to do followed up by going to thebiggest mall in North America so I'm told in Edmonton=A2. I did find a card shop in Calgary that had some vintage cards but didn't pick up much some 52-54 bowman fb,four 62 shirriff BB coins few 73 OPC's for the dupes box. Now on whidbey island for opening day of crabbing tomorrow morning you fishermen or hunters know what I mean by "opening day". Really enjoyed it we are thinking of doing something similar again next year. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 09:10:35 -0600 (MDT) To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great Canadian vacation From: GRANT RAINSLEY And on behalf of ALL Canadian OBC'ers,(me) I'd like to wish our great country a Happy 150th Birthday! In bits and pieces, Canada has been around a lotlonger than that, on our recent trip to Quebec and Ontario, we were in buildings dating back to circa 1600 or earlier. I guess it took us a while to get it together and finally say "Hey, why don't we all join in and make onereally big great Country? We can even put out our own baseball cards!" Tom is quite correct, there is quite a party going on up here from coast tocoast...... One of our Canadian heroes is former Astronaut Chris Hadfield.....some of you might know him from a video he put out that had him floating weightless in space singing David Bowie's " Space Oddity ." Outstanding, on YouTube ifyou want to see it. Chris and his brother Dave have put together a "CanadaSong" which is also darned good. So why not take three minutes to wish Canada a Happy 150th..........and sing along with " In Canada ." https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/zuVsHt3rBnc?rel0 From: "'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "Rick" Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 7:26:27 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great Canadian vacation You should have stuck around for today=E2=99s big 150th Canada Day. Hugeevents. Tom Billing On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:55 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > wrote: Just got back today from driving 2500 miles thru British Columbia and Alberta then brief stay in Montana. Seen lots of beautiful mountains/lakes/rivers/wildlife right up our alley of things to do followed up by going to the biggest mall in North America so I'm told in Edmonton=A2. I did find a card shop in Calgary that had some vintage cards but didn't pick up much some 52-54 bowman fb,four 62 shirriff BB coins few 73 OPC's for the dupesbox. Now on whidbey island for opening day of crabbing tomorrow morning you fishermen or hunters know what I mean by "opening day". Really enjoyed it we are thinking of doing something similar again next year. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 11:43:33 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Wayne's Card Images Project From: Wayne Delia When Joe Isaac and I were looking into adding a reliable, Net54-quality message board to the website, I had a chance to review how much space we have available from our web service provider, and how much we're using. We're buying the cheapest level of enterprise service, but as a result of our being regular customers for many years, they've added a bunch of space we're not using. Bottom line is we have 300 gigabytes available, and we're using maybe 2 or 3 gigabytes on our web site content - most of it taken up by the checklist data in Wayne's MegaChecklists under OBC Specials. What I'd like to do (subject to OBC/AC approval) is put my massive Card Image Project permanently in a directory on the website. Right now it's over a half million images in over 7500 sets, taking up a little bit more than 15 gigabytes. (In fact, in a test environment, it's already there now, but it can quickly be removed.) The space usage of our website would go from about 1 percent to maybe 5 percent. For you UV sick-o's, there are a lot of modern sets in there. This is what I've been packing into DVD's and sending to some of the guys for research projects. About a decade ago, I sold the rights to the images (at the time) to cardpricer.com, which eventually struggled, failed, and disappeared. Since then, I've completely replaced virtually every image with higher quality pictures, greatly expanded categories, and additional tools, so it's available for our use. The test version of the project is available on oldbaseball.com, click on "OBC Specials" button on the left side menu, and then click on the link for Wayne's Card Images Project. You can navigate through genres (Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball, Boxing/Golf, and Non-Sports), categories within genres, and sets within categories. If this gets approved for use on our website permanently, I'd appreciate people taking a look at it and pointing out any errors or suggesting improvements. ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 15:54:09 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: at the ballpark final edition From: Donnie Barnett Thanks for the writeup Richard, sounds like a real adventure hitting so many games. I wonder how a minor league tour would be? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 11:54:28 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wayne's Card Images Project From: Jake Brewer Love this, I think we should keep it!! Side note- is there still a possibility we have an actual forums section added to the OBC website? That'd be DOPE! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > When Joe Isaac and I were looking into adding a reliable, Net54-quality message board to the website, I had a chance to review how much space we have available from our web service provider, and how much we're using. We're buying the cheapest level of enterprise service, but as a result of our being regular customers for many years, they've added a bunch of space we're not using. Bottom line is we have 300 gigabytes available, and we're using maybe 2 or 3 gigabytes on our web site content - most of it taken up by the checklist data in Wayne's MegaChecklists under OBC Specials. > What I'd like to do (subject to OBC/AC approval) is put my massive Card Image Project permanently in a directory on the website. Right now it's overa half million images in over 7500 sets, taking up a little bit more than 15 gigabytes. (In fact, in a test environment, it's already there now, but it can quickly be removed.) The space usage of our website would go from about 1 percent to maybe 5 percent. For you UV sick-o's, there are a lot of modern sets in there. This is what I've been packing into DVD's and sending to some of the guys for research projects. About a decade ago, I sold the rights to the images (at the time) to cardpricer.com, which eventually struggled, failed, and disappeared. Since then, I've completely replaced virtually every image with higher quality pictures, greatly expanded categories, and additional tools, so it's available for our use. > The test version of the project is available on oldbaseball.com, click on"OBC Specials" button on the left side menu, and then click on the link for Wayne's Card Images Project. You can navigate through genres (Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball, Boxing/Golf, and Non-Sports), categories within genres, and sets within categories. If this gets approved for use on our website permanently, I'd appreciate people taking a look at it and pointingout any errors or suggesting improvements. > Best, > WMD ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:17:01 -0400 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wayne's Card Images Project From: Wayne Delia At the risk of portraying myself as your drug dealer, I can tell you that your DOPE is on the way, very soon. Joe Isaac found the SMF package (Simple Machine Forum) which happens to be a free installable tool available to our website from our internet service provider. We've hooked it up in a test environment and we have about ten or twelve OBC/AC members and beta testers getting it into shape. Looks and feels a lot like Net54, which has always been very popular. Once we get a few administrative tasks out of the way, it should be ready to go live very On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Jake Brewer > Love this, I think we should keep it!! > Side note- is there still a possibility we have an actual forums section > added to the OBC website? That'd be DOPE! > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > When Joe Isaac and I were looking into adding a reliable, Net54-quality > message board to the website, I had a chance to review how much space we > have available from our web service provider, and how much we're using. > We're buying the cheapest level of enterprise service, but as a result of > our being regular customers for many years, they've added a bunch of space > we're not using. Bottom line is we have 300 gigabytes available, and we're > using maybe 2 or 3 gigabytes on our web site content - most of it taken up > by the checklist data in Wayne's MegaChecklists under OBC Specials. > What I'd like to do (subject to OBC/AC approval) is put my massive Card > Image Project permanently in a directory on the website. Right now it's > over a half million images in over 7500 sets, taking up a little bit more > than 15 gigabytes. (In fact, in a test environment, it's already there now, > but it can quickly be removed.) The space usage of our website would go > from about 1 percent to maybe 5 percent. For you UV sick-o's, there are a > lot of modern sets in there. This is what I've been packing into DVD's and > sending to some of the guys for research projects. About a decade ago, I > sold the rights to the images (at the time) to cardpricer.com, which > eventually struggled, failed, and disappeared. Since then, I've completely > replaced virtually every image with higher quality pictures, greatly > expanded categories, and additional tools, so it's available for our use. > The test version of the project is available on oldbaseball.com, click on > "OBC Specials" button on the left side menu, and then click on the link for > Wayne's Card Images Project. You can navigate through genres (Baseball, > Football, Hockey, Basketball, Boxing/Golf, and Non-Sports), categories > within genres, and sets within categories. If this gets approved for use on > our website permanently, I'd appreciate people taking a look at it and > pointing out any errors or suggesting improvements. > Best, > WMD ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:20:38 -0400 To: GRANT RAINSLEY Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great Canadian vacation From: Steve Hey Grant, Happy 150th Birthday to Canada, all Canadians and to you as well. I spent my high school years in the province of New Brunswick 1963-67, and have always had a warm spot in my heart for the Great White North. Actually on the last day of our cruise we had one short day in Vancouver and had lunch at the Vancouver Canucks Bar & Grill at the airport. Enjoy all the festivities, be Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:10 AM, GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > And on behalf of ALL Canadian OBC'ers,(me) I'd like to wish our great country a Happy 150th Birthday! In bits and pieces, Canada has been around a lot longer than that, on our recent trip to Quebec and Ontario, we were in buildings dating back to circa 1600 or earlier. I guess it took us a while to get it together and finally say "Hey, why don't we all join in and make one really big great Country? We can even put out our own baseball cards!" > Tom is quite correct, there is quite a party going on up here from coast to > One of our Canadian heroes is former Astronaut Chris Hadfield.....some ofyou might know him from a video he put out that had him floating weightless in space singing David Bowie's "Space Oddity." Outstanding, on YouTube ifyou want to see it. Chris and his brother Dave have put together a "CanadaSong" which is also darned good. So why not take three minutes to wish Canada a Happy 150th..........and sing along with "In Canada." > https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/zuVsHt3rBnc?rel0 > Grant > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: "Rick" > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 7:26:27 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great Canadian vacation > You should have stuck around for today=E2=99s big 150th Canada Day. Huge > Tom Billing > On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:55 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just got back today from driving 2500 miles thru British Columbia and Alberta then brief stay in Montana. Seen lots of beautiful mountains/lakes/rivers/wildlife right up our alley of things to do followed up by going to thebiggest mall in North America so I'm told in Edmonton=A2. I did find a card shop in Calgary that had some vintage cards but didn't pick up much some 52-54 bowman fb,four 62 shirriff BB coins few 73 OPC's for the dupes box. Now on whidbey island for opening day of crabbing tomorrow morning you fishermen or hunters know what I mean by "opening day". Really enjoyed it we are thinking of doing something similar again next year. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:25:55 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wayne's Card Images Project From: Steve Wow! Very impressive Wayne! Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > When Joe Isaac and I were looking into adding a reliable, Net54-quality message board to the website, I had a chance to review how much space we have available from our web service provider, and how much we're using. We're buying the cheapest level of enterprise service, but as a result of our being regular customers for many years, they've added a bunch of space we're not using. Bottom line is we have 300 gigabytes available, and we're using maybe 2 or 3 gigabytes on our web site content - most of it taken up by the checklist data in Wayne's MegaChecklists under OBC Specials. > What I'd like to do (subject to OBC/AC approval) is put my massive Card Image Project permanently in a directory on the website. Right now it's overa half million images in over 7500 sets, taking up a little bit more than 15 gigabytes. (In fact, in a test environment, it's already there now, but it can quickly be removed.) The space usage of our website would go from about 1 percent to maybe 5 percent. For you UV sick-o's, there are a lot of modern sets in there. This is what I've been packing into DVD's and sending to some of the guys for research projects. About a decade ago, I sold the rights to the images (at the time) to cardpricer.com, which eventually struggled, failed, and disappeared. Since then, I've completely replaced virtually every image with higher quality pictures, greatly expanded categories, and additional tools, so it's available for our use. > The test version of the project is available on oldbaseball.com, click on"OBC Specials" button on the left side menu, and then click on the link for Wayne's Card Images Project. You can navigate through genres (Baseball, Football, Hockey, Basketball, Boxing/Golf, and Non-Sports), categories within genres, and sets within categories. If this gets approved for use on our website permanently, I'd appreciate people taking a look at it and pointingout any errors or suggesting improvements. > Best, > WMD ================= Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2017 16:45:58 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1934 Tigers team photo ID? (Attn FOOT :-) From: Matthew Glidden Hi guys, this 1934 Tigers team photo arrived in an eBay lot and I'm interested if it's a standalone premium or part of a larger series. Anyone know for sure? [image: Screen Shot 2017-07-01 at 12.43.27 PM.png] ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 13:00:52 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wayne's Card Images Project From: Jake Brewer Awesome Wayne! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Wayne Delia wrote: > At the risk of portraying myself as your drug dealer, I can tell you thatyour DOPE is on the way, very soon. > Joe Isaac found the SMF package (Simple Machine Forum) which happens to be a free installable tool available to our website from our internet service provider. We've hooked it up in a test environment and we have about ten or twelve OBC/AC members and beta testers getting it into shape. Looks and feels a lot like Net54, which has always been very popular. Once we get a few administrative tasks out of the way, it should be ready to go live very soon. > Best, > WMD >> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Jake Brewer wrote: >> Love this, I think we should keep it!! >> Side note- is there still a possibility we have an actual forums sectionadded to the OBC website? That'd be DOPE! >> -Jake "The Kid" Brewer >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> When Joe Isaac and I were looking into adding a reliable, Net54-qualitymessage board to the website, I had a chance to review how much space we have available from our web service provider, and how much we're using. We're buying the cheapest level of enterprise service, but as a result of our being regular customers for many years, they've added a bunch of space we'renot using. Bottom line is we have 300 gigabytes available, and we're usingmaybe 2 or 3 gigabytes on our web site content - most of it taken up by the checklist data in Wayne's MegaChecklists under OBC Specials. >>> What I'd like to do (subject to OBC/AC approval) is put my massive CardImage Project permanently in a directory on the website. Right now it's over a half million images in over 7500 sets, taking up a little bit more than 15 gigabytes. (In fact, in a test environment, it's already there now, but it can quickly be removed.) The space usage of our website would go from about 1 percent to maybe 5 percent. For you UV sick-o's, there are a lot ofmodern sets in there. This is what I've been packing into DVD's and sending to some of the guys for research projects. About a decade ago, I sold therights to the images (at the time) to cardpricer.com, which eventually struggled, failed, and disappeared. Since then, I've completely replaced virtually every image with higher quality pictures, greatly expanded categories,and additional tools, so it's available for our use. >>> The test version of the project is available on oldbaseball.com, click on "OBC Specials" button on the left side menu, and then click on the link for Wayne's Card Images Project. You can navigate through genres (Baseball,Football, Hockey, Basketball, Boxing/Golf, and Non-Sports), categories within genres, and sets within categories. If this gets approved for use on our website permanently, I'd appreciate people taking a look at it and pointing out any errors or suggesting improvements. >>> Best, >>> WMD ================= Date: 01 Jul 2017 17:30:51 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Wayne's Card Images Project From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: 01 Jul 2017 17:45:05 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Wayne's Card Images Project From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 17:59:14 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Wayne's Card Images Project From: Donnie Barnett That is absolutly amazing! I dont even know how someone goes about putting something like that together. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:29:03 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wayne's Card Images project From: Mike Diamanti Well Cardboard People: I've read it many times and it bears repeating -- this is one amazing group with some outstanding individuals with superb energy and talents. Wayne Delia once again impresses the hell out of me. I've just spent the better part of the morning navigating around his "test" project of half a million images........... Wayne, you the man! You got my vote to incorporate your extensive project and labors into the OBC website. Your work will serve as a terrific resource for many, many folks. Thank you, sir! Mike the Coffeeman Diamanti ================= Date: 01 Jul 2017 19:50:13 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great Canadian vacation From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= To: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 15:36:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Wayne's Card Images Project From: "George Vrechek" Great resource. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:02:26 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re: Waynes Card Images Project From: LAWRENCE TIPTON 26+ year OBC member Awesome Resource Wayne! Awesome card collecting club OBC! And now a message board system? ONWARD OBC! ================= To: OBC-Ramblings18 , OBC-Wantlists Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 00:40:31 +0000 Subject: Message board update From: Joe Isaac Hey everyone, As Wayne mentioned in his earlier post, we are in the final stages of testing the new forum to replace the Yahoo Groups. There is a chat add-on that I am working on now and should have this going soon. The forum page will be located on the home page on the left side and will be password protected and only the OBC family will be able to access. You will still be able to access the Yahoo Groups and its archives when theforum goes live. More to follow with instructions. Any questions, drop me a line. Joe Isaac ================= Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 01:39:56 +0000 (UTC) To: Joe Isaac , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Message board update From: mark zentkovich will non obc ers be prevented from posting? or other method of restricting access to members only? mark z On Saturday, July 1, 2017, 7:41:45 PM CDT, Joe Isaac jwi62@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hey everyone, As Wayne mentioned in his earlier post, we are in the final stages of testing the new forum to replace the Yahoo Groups. There is achat add-on that I am working on now and should have this going soon. The forum page will be located on the home page on the left side and will be password protected and only the OBC family will be able to access. You will still be able to access the Yahoo Groups and its archives when theforum goes live. More to follow with instructions. Any questions, drop me a line. Joe Isaac ================= To: mark zentkovich , OBC-Ramblings18 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 01:43:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Message board update From: Joe Isaac No one outside of OBC will be able to view this forum. There will be two levels of security, a password-protected site and permission settings. Thanks for asking. Joe Isaac From: mark zentkovich Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 9:39 PM To: Joe Isaac; OBC-Ramblings18; OBC-Wantlists Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Message board update will non obc ers be prevented from posting? or other method of restricting access to members only? mark z On Saturday, July 1, 2017, 7:41:45 PM CDT, Joe Isaac jwi62@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hey everyone, As Wayne mentioned in his earlier post, we are in the final stages of testing the new forum to replace the Yahoo Groups. There is a chat add-on that I am working on now and should have this going soon. The forum page will be located on the home page on the left side and will be password protected and only the OBC family will be able to access. You will still be able to access the Yahoo Groups and its archives when theforum goes live. More to follow with instructions. Any questions, drop me a line. Joe Isaac ================= Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 03:34:25 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , "" Subject: OUCH (was Re: A mini glass) From: familytoad@comcast.net time upstairs in my card room.

Today I got to play with my dog after missing him all week..but I slammed my foot into the baseboard and brokemy toe. Geez that is no way to start a weekend that I have been looking forward to all week!
Anyway, I haven't even gone up there and since my toeis deep black and swollen...I will more likely end up in the urgent care clinic than up in the man cave.

I didn't make it to the mailbox to send out the GREEN TINTS that were claimed last week on my waivers

I won't be able to walk my doggie in the Ridgefield July 4th parade like I have the past 4 years.

One good thing, my wife brought me an iced tea and I won't have to mow the lawn.
Hanging around the family room watching "Aerial America " on the Smithsonian Channel...realizing that while I have traveled a lot , I have a lot more to do. Richard 's baseball trip ramblings was very enjoyable, I'm going to do it too...eta 8 years.

I wishthey had filmed "Aerial Canada " since I barely know anything about our neighbors except that Grant is a lousy bocce player but an excellent host (and dear friend) Happy 150, Grant!

I have my iPad down on the couch with me. I'll be on eBay and Net 54. The wallet may say Ouch as well as my toe.

I smell pizza. I hope she brings me some...

OBC Forever,
Brian

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From: familytoad@comcast.net
To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com
Sent: July 1, 2017 at 10:09 face"Helvetica">Mike Glasser sends a 4 pack of 1975T Mini cards!
This set is primarily OBC-only and has made nice progress.
Mike's offering was 3 tigers and a royal.
I am excited to have a few minutes to myself today to organize my cards, time to update lists and prepare more outbounds.
One of them needs to go to Mr Glasser, among dozens of others!

OBC Forever,
Brian

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================= Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 00:58:43 -0400 To: Joe Isaac Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Message board update From: Jake Brewer Will it be accessible through an app like taptatalk; or only on the actual internet? Just curious on how I will access it from my phone! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Joe Isaac jwi62@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey everyone, > As Wayne mentioned in his earlier post, we are in the final stages of testing the new forum to replace the Yahoo Groups. There is a chat add-on that I am working on now and should have this going soon. The forum page willbe located on the home page on the left side and will be password protected and only the OBC family will be able to access. > You will still be able to access the Yahoo Groups and its archives when the forum goes live. > More to follow with instructions. Any questions, drop me a line. > Thanks, > Joe Isaac ================= Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 06:51:04 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re Message Board Update From: LAWRENCE TIPTON On Net54 I=E2=99ve discovered you can upload and store pictures/scans right on the site. And then link to the image so it appears in your message board post. Is this possible with the new message board? I always used Photobucket for my images to post on Net54, but my Photobucket account has been blocked unless I pay $400 per year. So can we store our images on the old baseball.com site, and post these images on the OBC message board? Can we store our images on the old baseball.com site, and use links to display to the Net54 boards? ================= Date: 02 Jul 2017 15:26:16 +0000 To: Subject: Anybody want to swap T206 beaters? From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= To: Jake Brewer Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2017 19:41:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Message board update From: Joe Isaac The chat function will be on the forum itself. Since the forum and chat are not mobile ready (and neither is oldbaseball.com), the layout will not beeasily viewed on an iPhone. Joe Isaac From: Jake Brewer Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 12:58 AM To: Joe Isaac Cc: OBC-Ramblings18; OBC-Wantlists Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Message board update Will it be accessible through an app like taptatalk; or only on the actual internet? Just curious on how I will access it from my phone! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2017, at 8:40 PM, Joe Isaac jwi62@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey everyone, As Wayne mentioned in his earlier post, we are in the final stages of testing the new forum to replace the Yahoo Groups. There is a chat add-on that I am working on now and should have this going soon. The forum page will be located on the home page on the left side and will be password protected and only the OBC family will be able to access. You will still be able to access the Yahoo Groups and its archives when theforum goes live. More to follow with instructions. Any questions, drop me a line. Joe Isaac ================= Date: 04 Jul 2017 01:02:48 +0000 To: Subject: July 4th Waivers - 1920s/1930s Glen Burn Coal Scatter Tag/Trade Card Baseballs From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: 04 Jul 2017 15:40:32 +0000 To: Subject: reflection and waiver wire - claim away From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 17:13:15 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: I have way too many cards!! Be prepared! :) From: Jim Thayer You can never have too many cards, right? Well, in my case, it's way too overwhelming for me right now, and now that I'm back from my two week vacation, I'm staring at boxes and boxes of cards!!! Watching CHRIS TRIPLER unloading like a boss with all his stuff has inspired me. I have business inventory and personal inventory that needs to go, so I plan to start letting things go via RAOK, waiver wire, virtual card store, and dealer scum. I'll start with a batch of graded football stars in just a few moments before we head over to my parent's house for food and fireworks. FYI - Thank you all for your continued support with my attempts to being a card dealer. You've all been great! ================= Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 17:25:29 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1970 Topps Story Booklets WAIVER WIRE From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, One last offering until I head over to my parent's house. 1970 Topps Story Booklets WAIVER WIRE#2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13 Cepeda, 15 Rose, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23 Let me know what you need and please provide address if you can. Thanks! ================= Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 14:19:10 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Jimmy Reese autographed ball From: Andy Cook My father-in-law gave me this late 70s Angels team ball this morning for meto take to Chantilly in two weeks to get a Spence certificate. There's a nice Nolan Ryan signature, but I thought you all might be interested in seeing the more unusual Jimmy Reese autograph -- Babe Ruth's roommate. My FIL was given this ball about 1980 and it's been sitting on his shelf ever since. Pretty cool. ================= Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 23:41:16 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , "" Subject: Bad eyes turns into a dream for you! From: familytoad@comcast.net it shrunk on the 53 Bowmans and OBAKS.

Since I busted my toe, I stayed home from the town parade even though it is a very pretty day outside. I had a lot of cards to put away...ok I still do, but that's my progressreport.

I messed up on my 1968 set. I bought a "managers dream w/Clemente " card #480 last week , and I didn't need it... I needed the #490 which is Mantle/Mays/Killebrew!,
I sure thought I had got a big hit erased, but I guess my eyes were mistaken. Not so bad except I paid $20 for the card...it's in pretty nice shape. I wouldn't want to admit how many other times I've botched up card buying. Back up to needing 23 Topps cards.

Anyway, the card can be had from me to you in exchange for any card on my WL, any sport, any year.
That's right, it can be a FB common, it can be aE210-2 York Caramel Paul Waner, it can be a single 1975 Topps Mini that I need...that's totally up to you. It doesn't have to match the "value", that's not important in the least!

You get the "dream card #480 from 1968", I just get an envelope with anything in it. Please don't even tell me what you send. I like cardboard surprises :-)

I'll keep the offer open, if I get multiple requests, it will be the trusty Phillies hat selectionprocess.

Oh wait...I found a 1961 Ron Santo RC too...another offer,but you don't have to return anything ...just claim away and I will send to a second OBC guy!

OBC Forever,
Brian

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 22:08:28 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Bad eyes turns into a dream for you! From: "Sal Domino" We say that you =E2=9Cgonged=E2=9D yourself. I have done that tons oftimes and I KNOW (as much as I try not to) I will =E2=9CGong=E2=9D myself multiple times at the National lol! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 7:41 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Bad eyes turns into a dream for you! Well my wantlist grew on my Topps run, as it shrunk on the 53 Bowmans and OBAKS. Since I busted my toe, I stayed home from the town parade even though it isa very pretty day outside. I had a lot of cards to put away...ok I still do, but that's my progress report. I messed up on my 1968 set. I bought a "managers dream w/Clemente " card #480 last week , and I didn't need it... I needed the #490 which is Mantle/Mays/Killebrew!, I sure thought I had got a big hit erased, but I guess my eyes were mistaken. Not so bad except I paid $20 for the card...it's in pretty nice shape. Iwouldn't want to admit how many other times I've botched up card buying. Back up to needing 23 Topps cards. Anyway, the card can be had from me to you in exchange for any card on my WL, any sport, any year. That's right, it can be a FB common, it can be a E210-2 York Caramel Paul Waner, it can be a single 1975 Topps Mini that I need...that's totall y up to you. It doesn't have to match the "value", that's not important in the least! You get the "dream card #480 from 1968", I just get an envelope with anything in it. Please don't even tell me what you send. I like cardboard surprises I'll keep the offer open, if I get multiple requests, it will be the trustyPhillies hat selection process. Oh wait...I found a 1961 Ron Santo RC too...another offer, but you don't have to return anything ...just claim away and I will send to a second OBC guy! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 09:15:21 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: =?utf-8?B?R3VydXMg4oCcV2F1Y3Rpb27igJ0gIzk=?From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #9 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) Yes we accept consignments! Here at Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D, we charge ZERO consignment fees, and we pay the most in the industry for your valuable collectibles! Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D pays the consigner 100% of the price realized! (100% of ZERO is ZERO) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit of how many lots you request, but you can only win one lot. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and draw the winner out of the =E2=9Csplatter=E2=9D cover that sits on top of my microwave oven. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST, with =E2=9CWauction Winners=E2=9D announced. The =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D catalog will be published on the OBC Facebook 1. 1962 Topps baseball #596 =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D high number. With Yankee youngsters Joe Pepitone/Phil Linz, and Twins prospects Bernie Allen/Rich Rollins. A solid G-VG example. Fairly well centered but has the typical chipping on the wood grain. A stray ink mark on the back does not distract, but the lower right corner crease will get your attention. 2. 1966 Topps baseball #50 Mickey Mantle. Well centered with a beautiful back. A light crease runs tops to bottom over 3/4 of the card. Some kind of =E2=9Cmini-staple=E2=9D damage right above the sluggers eyeballs. Butuuummmmmm it=E2=99s a Mantle! 3. 1960 Topps baseball #160 =E2=9CRival All Stars=E2=9D with Mickey Mantle and Ken Boyer. Perfect back, but the front is =E2=9CMOOFED=E2=9D out, and the =E2=9Cmoof-meter=E2=9D comes in at an seven. From the OBC web page under OBC Slang Dictionary: Moof: An aroma (mold, smoke, etc.) given off by certain cards, usually described on a scale of 1 (mild scent) to 10 (ultra-funky smell). On consignment 4. 1959 Topps baseball #150 Stan Musial. A couple spots of paper loss on the front. 17 years of big league statistics fill up the back of the card, yet there is STILL room for that stray ink mark we have all grown accustomed to seeing. Stan =E2=9CThe Man=E2=9D ended up with a 22 year baseball career, and in 2013 died at the age of 92. Sounds like a pretty great way to live out our time here! 5. 1964 Topps baseball #538 Minnie Minoso. The =E2=9CCuban Comet=E2=9D was the first black player to wear a Chicago White Sox uniform 5/1/1951. Ignore the centering of this card, and it=E2=99s a solid EX. Learn more about Minnie at http://minosa.com 6. 1959 Topps baseball #552 Casey Stengal. This card is a very popular Wauction item, always generating numerous =E2=9Cbids=E2=9D. The colors onthe front of this card just POP. Level 1 MOOF on the reverse! 7. 1948 Bowman football #47 Bob Mann Detroit Lions. During his pro career, Bob played on both the Lions and Packers, becoming the first African American to play on either team. All of us have seen the video of Odell Beckham Jrs. famous one handed TD catch vs the Detroit Lions. But the one handed catch was invented by Bob Mann, and pictured on this card! On consignment. 8. 1968 Topps baseball #45 Tom Seaver. Second year card of =E2=9CTom Terrific=E2=9D features that cool All-Star trophy on the front (along with numerous creases). The former owner of this card, Jimmy Biggley explains: =E2=9COn June 1st 1968, my father Charles was sitting at his desk, writing checks for our families monthly bills. Half way through the phone bill, his pen stopped working. So he grabbed a piece of scrap paper (in this case, my second year card of Tom Seaver) and scribbled on the reverse until thepen started working=E2=9D. We forgive you Charles, and you can see through the ink that Seaver played one year here in Jacksonville, then won 16 games for the ninth place Mets in 1967 which earned him Rookie of The Year honors. 9. 1958 Topps baseball #464 Curt Flood RC with perfect centering and vivid colors, the card does include one moderate crease. A solid VG example of this important card. Despite his outstanding playing career, Flood's principal legacy developed off the field. He believed that Major League Baseball=E2=99s decades-oldreserve clause was unfair in that it kept players beholden for life to theteam. On October 7, 1969, the Cardinals traded Flood, Tim McCarver, Byron Brown, and Joe Hoerner to the Phillies for Dick Allen, Cookie Rojas, and Jerry Johnson. But Flood refused to report, and stood to forfeit a lucrative $100,000 contract. After a meeting with players=E2=99 union head Marvin Miller, who informed him that the union was prepared to fund a lawsuit, he decided to pursue his legal options. 10. Non Sports Special: 1978 Topps =E2=9CClose Encounters of the Third Kind=E2=9D Full Set 66 cards with 11 stickers in Near Mint condition! Also included are all three (I think) empty wax wrapper variations: Smooth N=E2=99 Juicy Gum CE3K Skywatchers Membership offer 21=E2=9D by 27=E2=9D uncut sheet offer You have got to check out card #2 =E2=9CMonitoring a UFO=E2=9D. This part of the movie was filmed at the Los Angeles Air Route Traffic Control Center, and I worked there from 1981-1991. Two of the three pictured air controllers are actors, but I worked with the controller on the far right. Hisname was Dick Hawkins, and he was actually a supervisor. He was a great guy, but a bit of a drinker LOL! He REAKED of booze every time I sat down next to him! ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 09:57:03 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: biggies@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 14:01:32 +0000 To: biggies@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: Matthew Glidden If the miscut is enough to show part of another card, I think that's Richard Dingman. On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 9:57 AM biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 10:29:31 -0400 To: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: "Thomas W. Billing" I do in the time frame of 1948 through 1964. If you like these, check out toppaholic who has them at eye-popping prices. Also, irishhosta has the same philosophy with his as seen in early Bowman FB cards. Tom Billing > On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:57 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:09:27 -0400 To: twbilling@sbcglobal.net, biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I too collect miscuts, wrong backs and blank backs. Mike Rich 26020 Radclift Pl Oak Park, MI 48237 -----Original Message----- From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: biggies Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 10:29 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? I do in the time frame of 1948 through 1964. If you like these, check out toppaholic who has them at eye-popping prices. Also, irishhosta has the same philosophy with his as seen in early Bowman FB cards. Tom Billing On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:57 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:21:32 -0700 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: John Stamper Same here. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 > On Jul 5, 2017, at 8:09 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I too collect miscuts, wrong backs and blank backs. > Mike Rich > 26020 Radclift Pl > Oak Park, MI 48237 > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: biggies > Cc: obc-ramblings > Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 10:29 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? > I do in the time frame of 1948 through 1964. If you like these, check out toppaholic who has them at eye-popping prices. Also, irishhosta has the same philosophy with his as seen in early Bowman FB cards. > Tom Billing > On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:57 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:38:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: I'll be in Nashville next week From: Jimi Thayer My wife is speaking again at the national teachers convention in Nashville next week and I'm tagging along this time. Any shops to be aware of? Anyone nearby I can meet up with? I'll have a lot of down time! :) Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:49:10 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I have about 30 1973 Topps football miscuts that I pulled awhile back alongwith a few baseball ones, too. Let me know if you'd like any! Most are miscut from top to bottom while showing another player's name at the bottom. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:04:00 -0400 To: jimivintage@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I collect all sports for the miscuts. Front or back. My only limitation is I do not collect non-sports. Mike Rich 26020 Radclift Pl Oak Park, MI 48237 -----Original Message----- From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 11:50 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE Hey guys, I have about 30 1973 Topps football miscuts that I pulled awhile back alongwith a few baseball ones, too. Let me know if you'd like any! Most are miscut from top to bottom while showing another player's name at the bottom. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 15:55:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Aaron Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 17:31:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: richard dingman Me, too, miscuts, printing errors, variations and blank backs. Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:55 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: jwi62@hotmail.com; wayne.m.delia@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? Could this be a new category on The Who Collects What page? This question sure comes up often enough! Or perhaps it could be an ongoing thread on the new forum. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Same here. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Jul 5, 2017, at 8:09 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I too collect miscuts, wrong backs and blank backs. Mike Rich 26020 Radclift Pl Oak Park, MI 48237 -----Original Message----- From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: biggies > Cc: obc-ramblings > Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 10:29 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? I do in the time frame of 1948 through 1964. If you like these, check out toppaholic who has them at eye-popping prices. Also, irishhosta has the same philosophy with his as seen in early Bowman FB cards. Tom Billing On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:57 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:42:32 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: Jimi Thayer I don't really collect them, but I do pull them out and save them for RAOKsand trades for other people since several of you do. I know I have sent Richard Dingman several over the years. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:31 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Me, too, miscuts, printing errors, variations and blank backs. > Richard D > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 11:55 AM > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Cc: jwi62@hotmail.com; wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? > Could this be a new category on The Who Collects What page? This questionsure comes up often enough! > Or perhaps it could be an ongoing thread on the new forum. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Same here. >> John Stamper >> 503 Aspen View Ct. >> Oak Park, Ca. 91377 >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 8:09 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> I too collect miscuts, wrong backs and blank backs. >>> Mike Rich >>> 26020 Radclift Pl >>> Oak Park, MI 48237 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] >>> To: biggies >>> Cc: obc-ramblings >>> Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 10:29 am >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? >>> I do in the time frame of 1948 through 1964. If you like these, check out toppaholic who has them at eye-popping prices. Also, irishhosta has the same philosophy with his as seen in early Bowman FB cards. >>> Tom Billing >>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:57 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] ================= To: "jimivintage@yahoo.com" , Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 17:53:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE From: Mac Wubben Finally...something Mike doesn't collect. The guy who does collect non-sport back mis-cuts is probably doing some serious self reflection now. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:04:00 PM To: jimivintage@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE I collect all sports for the miscuts. Front or back. My only limitation is I do not collect non-sports. Mike Rich 26020 Radclift Pl Oak Park, MI 48237 -----Original Message----- From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 11:50 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE Hey guys, I have about 30 1973 Topps football miscuts that I pulled awhile back alongwith a few baseball ones, too. Let me know if you'd like any! Most are miscut from top to bottom while showing another player's name at the bottom. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "jimivintage@yahoo.com" , Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:11:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE From: richard dingman Right now I am only looking for baseball or non-sport miscuts on the front,so I'll let others collect the other sports miscuts, and cards miscut on back. Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 1:53 PM To: jimivintage@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE Finally...something Mike doesn't collect. The guy who does collect non-sport back mis-cuts is probably doing some serious self reflection now. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 12:04:00 PM To: jimivintage@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE I collect all sports for the miscuts. Front or back. My only limitation is I do not collect non-sports. Mike Rich 26020 Radclift Pl Oak Park, MI 48237 -----Original Message----- From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 11:50 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE Hey guys, I have about 30 1973 Topps football miscuts that I pulled awhile back alongwith a few baseball ones, too. Let me know if you'd like any! Most are miscut from top to bottom while showing another player's name at the bottom. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 17:51:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:31:53 -0500 Subject: Re: 1973 Topps football miscuts - WAIVER WIRE From: "George Vrechek" Funny comment by Mac on Mike Rich not collecting non-sports miscuts. A man has got to know his limitations. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 15:42:41 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? From: ShoelessWes I would like to see who collects what expanded. Wes Shepard > On Jul 5, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Could this be a new category on The Who Collects What page? This questionsure comes up often enough! > Or perhaps it could be an ongoing thread on the new forum. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Same here. >> John Stamper >> 503 Aspen View Ct. >> Oak Park, Ca. 91377 >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 8:09 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> I too collect miscuts, wrong backs and blank backs. >>> Mike Rich >>> 26020 Radclift Pl >>> Oak Park, MI 48237 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] >>> To: biggies >>> Cc: obc-ramblings >>> Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 10:29 am >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects miscuts and or double prints? >>> I do in the time frame of 1948 through 1964. If you like these, check out toppaholic who has them at eye-popping prices. Also, irishhosta has the same philosophy with his as seen in early Bowman FB cards. >>> Tom Billing >>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:57 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] ================= Date: 05 Jul 2017 20:09:56 +0000 To: Subject: Need some help IDing a post card From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 20:23:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some help IDing a post card [1 Attachment] From: JAY TYSVER Could it be Charlie Root? Not sure if that is right or not. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 3:09 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some help IDing a post card [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Can't place the player/year Any help possible? ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 19:11:13 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Getting a refund back from paypal From: Raymond Luurs I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nstead of monicarichey@yahoo.com. He has sent me several emails about paying him and finally got him to understand what has happened and we decided to cancel the sale. Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it went to an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money back into my account. Any help is apprecieted ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:24:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 20:44:22 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Raymond Luurs Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 I'd say contact PayPal - did you conduct this through eBay or a private deal? Did you type in the wrong recipient? You said PayPal processed it - was it their mistake? Did you try to contact monicarlrichey@yahoo.com? mailto:monicarlrichey@yahoo.com? I assume you did, but thought I'd ask. GoodLuck!!! BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------------------------- MARK > On July 5, 2017 at 8:11 PM "Raymond Luurs raymondluurs@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nstead of monicarichey@yahoo.com mailto:monicarichey@yahoo.com . He has sentme several emails about paying him and finally got him to understand what has happened and we decided to cancel the sale. Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it went to an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money back into my account. Any help is apprecieted ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 17:48:37 -0700 To: Raymond Luurs Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: John Stamper I would contact PayPal. They should be able to make it happen. John Stamper > On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:11 PM, Raymond Luurs raymondluurs@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nsteadof monicarichey@yahoo.com. He has sent me several emails about paying himand finally got him to understand what has happened and we decided to cancel the sale. Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it went to an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money backinto my account. Any help is apprecieted ================= To: John Stamper Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 01:25:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:25:30 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: Ken M Ray,  Log into your Paypal account and cancel the payment to the wrong address. Since he doesn't have access to it, it shouldn't have been claimed. (If it has been paid to someone and isn't listed as 'pending', contact Paypal ASAP). I had this happen to me twice recently, where the seller either typed in the wrong address or put one for a suspended account. Ebay wouldn't let the seller change it in both cases. One seller had his paypal address listed from concast (or comcas) instead of comcast. That was easy to figure out and I got the money to him (after cancelling two payments to the concast address). The drawback to that is the lot wasn't marked as paid by eBay until he marked as such manually. The other seller gave up on trying to collect payment after 3 weeks to his (I'm assuming) suspended Paypal account. I managed to message him my mailing address through eBay and he sent me the $11 lot for free. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Raymond Luurs raymondluurs@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 8:11 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nstead of monicarichey@yahoo.com.  He has sent me several emails about paying him and finally got him to understand what has happened and  we decided to cancel the sale.  Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it went to an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money back into my account.  Any help is apprecieted ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 20:07:27 -0700 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: Rick Yes first thing to do is pull up your PayPal account and see if the money has been claimed or says pending. If it says pending click the cancel then retype the correct email and send money. I have done it twice that's why I always ask people if they got the money it case I did something wrong. You will not get credit right away from the cancelled payment it usually takes acouple days I'm assuming to protect the person you sent the money to. Since the two emails are so close you probably sent it to nonexistent emailbut if claimed then you would have to call PayPal to try and fix it. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Jul 5, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Ray, > Log into your Paypal account and cancel the payment to the wrong address. Since he doesn't have access to it, it shouldn't have been claimed. (If it has been paid to someone and isn't listed as 'pending', contact Paypal ASAP). > I had this happen to me twice recently, where the seller either typed inthe wrong address or put one for a suspended account. Ebay wouldn't let the seller change it in both cases. One seller had his paypal address listed from concast (or comcas) instead of comcast. That was easy to figure out and I got the money to him (after cancelling two payments to the concast address). The drawback to that is the lot wasn't marked as paid by eBay until he marked as such manually. The other seller gave up on trying to collect payment after 3 weeks to his (I 'm assuming) suspended Paypal account. I managed to message him my mailing address through eBay and he sent me the $11 lot for free. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Raymond Luurs raymondluurs@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 8:11 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal > I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nsteadof monicarichey@yahoo.com. He has sent me several emails about paying himand finally got him to understand what has happened and we decided to cance l the sale. Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it went to an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money back into my account. Any help is apprecieted ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:29:29 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1960 Low Number back variations From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello All, I am doing some work with my TIGER collection and I have (4) cards #6 (Berbert), #22 (Bridges), #33 (Morgan), and #85 (Lary) that are all grey back cards. The rest of my TIGERS and those in my `60 Topps set are all white backed. Is this a variation or is it possible these are Venezuelan issues? I'm going to loose it if there are more variations to chase in this set. Can anyone out there issue an opinion? BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK ================= To: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:05:39 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal From: "Sal Domino" I=E2=99ve has similar instances with this. Both Ken and Jeff have sent me paypal money to this email address. But I don=E2=99t use this one for paypal. There was nowhere for me to collect the money in this email anyway.More than likely that is still sitting in pending. I had them both cancel the transaction and send to my palpal email. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 11:07 PM To: Ken M Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal Yes first thing to do is pull up your PayPal account and see if the money has been claimed or says pending. If it says pending click the cancel then retype the correct email and send money. I have done it twice that's why I always ask people if they got the money it case I did something wrong. You will not get credit right away from the cancelled payment it usually takes acouple days I'm assuming to protect the person you sent the money to. Since the two emails are so close you probably sent it to nonexistent emailbut if claimed then you would have to call PayPal to try and fix it. Rick Sent from my iPad On Jul 5, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Log into your Paypal account and cancel the payment to the wrong address.Since he doesn't have access to it, it shouldn't have been claimed. (If ithas been paid to someone and isn't listed as 'pending', contact Paypal ASAP). I had this happen to me twice recently, where the seller either typed in the wrong address or put one for a suspended account. Ebay wouldn't let the seller change it in both cases. One seller had his paypal address listed from concast (or comcas) instead of comcast. That was easy to figure out and I got the money to him (after cancelling two payments to the concast address). The drawback to that is the lot wasn't marked as paid by eBay until he marked as such manually. The other seller gave up on trying to collect payment after 3 weeks to his (I 'm assuming) suspended Paypal account. I managed to message him my mailing address through eBay and he sent me the $11 lotfor Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: Raymond Luurs raymondluurs@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 8:11 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Getting a refund back from paypal I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nstead of monicarichey@yahoo.com. He has sent me several emails about paying him and finally got him to understand what has happened and we decided to cancel the sale. Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it wentto an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money back into my account. Any help is apprecieted ================= Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:05:19 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1960 variations From: Mark Talbot Here is the front- white back on the top ================= Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:07:09 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1960 back variation From: Mark Talbot Here are the backs ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 22:09:26 -0600 (MDT) To: MARK TALBOT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Low Number back variations From: GRANT RAINSLEY Mark, I'm not sure if this is a consolation or a curse........but all of those cards in my set are white backs, and I'm sure they are U.S. Topps. (Do I hear someone screaming ARRRRRGGGGGHHH right now?) I can say for sure thatall of them were cards that I bought as a kid (in Canada), so not sure if that has something to do with it..........from #1 to #110 are ALL white backs .......I know the Venezuelans are often different card stock.......I checked some of the '60's that I have that I know came OBC'ers and they feel like the same cardboard. Looks like the 2nd Series in my set is all grey.......after that I see white and greys through the next few releases Maybe it's a fluke that all mine in the 1st Series are white, but?????? Without seeing them, my guess is that they are not Venezuelans. From: "MARK TALBOT talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Vintage Traders" , card-variations@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:29:29 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Low Number back variations Hello All, I am doing some work with my TIGER collection and I have (4) cards #6 (Berbert), #22 (Bridges), #33 (Morgan), and #85 (Lary) that are all grey back cards. The rest of my TIGERS and those in my `60 Topps set are all white backed. Is this a variation or is it possible these are Venezuelan issues? I'm going to loose it if there are more variations to chase in this set. Can anyone out there issue an opinion? BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK ================= To: , Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 00:23:03 -0400 Subject: 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.4 From: "Sal Domino" Damn it's coming fast. I have just about all my handshakes done. I bought a new laptop backpack so one less piece of luggage/carry on (these airlines are making me crazy). Need to buy a new suitcase, as the Nationals have worn out my old one! So here is the latest list. There are a few (?) in the group, but am hoping those turn into positive affirmations. I can't believe I will be in Chicago in 16 days. Speaking of which, a friend of mine is taking his son to the Cubs game on Sunday night. Me and Kent are planning on going. I know Steve may be in town. I need a head count because I have a feeling I need to get these tickets ahead of time. Cheap tickets only left in the outfield, but there really aren't any bad seats. Ken, Kent and myself have sat pretty much everywhere in Wrigley (but someday I want to do the rooftop!). Let me know ASAP if you are going to be in town by Sunday before the National and if you want to go. Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Sat ? Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:30:19 -0700 To: Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.4 From: Rick Anyone going want to look for some Venezuelans for me? Mark Macrae told me there's a couple guys there that are big Venezuelan guys. If your willing to look email me and I'll send you my lists. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:23 PM, 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Damn it=E2=99s coming fast. I have just about all my handshakes done. I bought a new laptop backpack so one less piece of luggage/carry on (theseairlines are making me crazy). Need to buy a new suitcase, as the Nationals have worn out my old one! So here is the latest list. There are a few (?)in the group, but am hoping those turn into positive affirmations. I can=E2=99t believe I will be in Chicago in 16 days. Speaking of which, a friend of mine is taking his son to the Cubs game on Sunday night. Me and Kent are planning on going. I know Steve may be in town. I need a head count because I have a feeling I need to get these tickets ahead of time. Cheap tickets only left in the outfield, but there really aren=E2=99t any bad seats. Ken, Kent and myself have sat pretty much everywhere in Wrigley (but someday I want to do the rooftop!). Let me know ASAP if you are going to bein town by Sunday before the National and if you want to go. > Name > Cell Phone > Hotel > Mon Game > Thurs Dinner > Fri Net54/Brewers Game > Swap Session > Days There > Sal > Domino > 516-238-8070 > Extended Stay Am North > Sunday > Y > Brewers? > Y > Sa-Su > Joe > Adriance > 703-405-0483 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Y > Tu-Su > Bob > Bannon > 203-509-9076 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > N > W-Sa > Jerry > Barnes > 937-673-0694 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Y > F-Su > Jason > Christopherson > 715-533-0437 > N > N > N > N > W-F > Doug > DeJong > 913-638-7131 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Fr-Su > Wayne > Delia > 914-204-9425 > Radisson Chicago O'Hare > N > ? > White Sox > Y > Th-Su > Richard > Dingman > 413-695-1303 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > M-Sa > Larry > Gersbach > 513-310-0195 > F-Sa > Spike > Glidden > 508-472-9915 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Net54 > Y > W-Su > Kent > Goto > 618-910-9354 > Extended Stay Am North > Y > Y > Su-Su > Tom > Housley > 937-269-7655 > Hotel Garden Inn > Y > ? > Y > Th-Su > David > Luftig > 541-525-9903 > N > N > N > Y > Sat ? > Mike > Mackie > 414-418-9507 > n/a > N > Y > Y > F-Sa > Gary > Mandell > 773-547-2112 > Home > N > Y > N > Y > Th-Sa > Ken > Morganti > 339-440-2862 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > Y > Y > Tu-M > Mike > Mroz > 586-596-2776 > F-Su > Mike > Rich > 248-709-2235 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Steve > Rittenberg > 256-585-4329 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > Su-M > Mike > Rumley-Wells > Sister's > Taylor > Schock > 919-423-5190 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > ? > Net54 > Y > Tu-Su > Wes > Shepard > 937-367-4724 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Aaron > Shirley > 618-509-3600 > Friend > N > N > Y > Sam > Taylor > 330-322-3718 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Jimi > Thayer > 740-507-5671 > Larry > Tipton > 904-318-9372 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > W-Su > TJ > Valacak > 847-927-9971 > Home > Y > Geroge > Vrechek > 312-654-8909 > Home > Y > ? > Y > W-Su > Geno > Wagner > 850-218-9204 > Family > Th > Mac > Wubben > 240-423-4605 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > Tu-Su > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= To: "'GRANT RAINSLEY'" , Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 01:21:30 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Low Number back variations From: "Sal Domino" I asked this question last year and George was one who replied (this was onthe variations server- George do you have the link to the Olberman articleyou Ok I need some of you print run experts here. I was doing some upgrading tomy 1960 set and I have #13 Wally Post as both a creme and gray back version. I think Richard Dingman is the only other one who has this listed. Why is this not listed in SCD as a variation (with one series of the set creme/gray) and how did this one get printed with two different color backs and not others in the same series? Was this card on the proof sheet that Keith Olberman wrote about in 2008 (http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/features/keith-olbermann-archive/olbermann-proofs-part-one)? Inquiring minds want to know, as well as insane variations collectors. I've included Bob Lemke on this, as well as Rich Mueller, as they may have some insight on the subject. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 22:26:53 -0700 To: Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Low Number back variations From: Rick I think he or anyone else that has grey backs from the first series could be Venezuelans. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:21 PM, 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I asked this question last year and George was one who replied (this was on the variations server- George do you have the link to the Olberman article you referenced?) > Ok I need some of you print run experts here. I was doing some upgrading to my 1960 set and I have #13 Wally Post as both a creme and gray back version. I think Richard Dingman is the only other one who has this listed. Whyis this not listed in SCD as a variation (with one series of the set creme/gray) and how did this one get printed with two different color backs and not others in the same series? Was this card on the proof sheet that Keith Olberman wrote about in 2008 (http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/features/keith-olbermann-archive/olbermann-proofs-part-one)? > Inquiring minds want to know, as well as insane variations collectors. I've included Bob Lemke on this, as well as Rich Mueller, as they may have some insight on the subject. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 06:48:23 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Leave From: OBC Nick P Grant rainsley is going to be filling my seat on the AC for a short period of time. How long is yet to be determined. Short The AC was informed late last night. Issues have arisen that require a brief leave of absence. It may take longer than normal for me to respond to any email. If it is urgent....text. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:06:28 -0700 To: Mark Talbot Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 variations [1 Attachment] From: Rick After mark brought up the grey back 60's first series and Richards variations list I'm going to debate with zero evidence at this time that mark has Venezuelans and Richard doesn't have variations either but Venezuelans too. I contend if Richard has card # 13 with a grey back it is a Venezuelan as Sal said there can't just be one topps card printed on grey stock others would have showed up before now that's an each variation to discover. Richard says topps card # 112 variation is no copyright on back I say this is a Venezuelan according to the information below there are 43 cards of the second series without the copyright on back. Here's some info about Venezuelans I think you'll find interesting. Rick Identifying The Cards: The 1960 Venezuela Topps cards from the first series, 1-110, are very easy to distinguish because all 1960 Venezuela Topps card were printed on gray stock, while all first series US Topps cards were printed on the much brighter beige/white stock. So, any card numbered 1-110 on gray stock is a Venezuela Topps card. The second series cards, 111-198, are the most difficult of all Venezuelan cards to distinguish from 1960 US Topps cards, as the vast majority of these cards are absolutely identical down the copyright label on the back that reads =E2=9C=A9T.C.G.=E2=9D followed by a small space, =E2=9CPRTD. IN U.S.A.=E2=9D Additionally, all second series cards, both US and Venezuela Topps, were printed on gray stock. Fortunately, 43 of the second series cards lack the printer information entirely, making them easily identifiable. Those 43 cards are listed below. However, the other 44 cards appear identical to US Topps cards, and it is these cards that require an experienced eye to identify. If the label is present and the origin is uncertain, I recommend using a halogen light or other bright light and doing a direct comparison with known US Topps cards. When looking at the back of a US Topps card, the text and art image appear very crisp with deep black color. The Venezuelan card, while it appears identical at first glance, will generally have a more washed out look. The black ink just isn=E2=99t as dark and doesn=E2=99t appear as crisp. The texture of the back of a Venezuelan card is also noticeably different under the light. The texture of the Venezuela Topps card appears uneven and slightly bumpy, while the US Topps card has a texture that is much smoother. US Topps =E2=93 smooth surface, bold ink=E2=8B Venezuela Topps =E2=93 uneven & bumpy On the front of a US Topps card, the image will appear very bright and reflective. Even if the card is well worn, it will still have reflective qualities. Topps used a high quality gloss and it has held up well over the years. The Venezuelan Topps may actually have a little bit of a sheen =E2=93 as it seems like they may have applied a very sparse coating of cheap gloss that did not provide complete coverage of the entire front. The imagewill not have the same reflective qualities as the US card however, as it will still appear a bit duller than the US card. Identification Labels: All team cards do not have printer identification marks on both US and Venezuela Topps cards. The following cards in the 1960 Venezuela Topps set do not have any printer identification label at all (note that all of these cards are in the second series only): 112, 113, 116, 119, 120, 121, 123, 124, 127, 128, 134, 135, 138, 139, 140, 141, 143, 148, 152, 153, 156, 158, 159, 161, 163, 165, 167, 168, 171, 172, 176, 177, 181, 183, 186, 187, 189, 191, 192, 193, 196, 197 Card 136, Jim Kaat, has only =E2=9CT.C.G.=E2=9D printed on it. US Topps =E2=93 w/ printer designation Venezuela Topps =E2=93 no designation Final Points The 1960 Venezuelan set does not have nearly the mystery or allure of the 1959 set. It is unknown whether the second series cards are more scarce than first series, as the cards are seldom available in general. Some cards in the 1960 set can be found with very noticeable printer alignment markings and/or repeating print defects. While a few of these type markings can be found in the US set, usually appearing much lighter on the US card, the Venezuelan set was far more prone to them. I think they are a very nice aspect of any Venezuelan card that has them. Since Venezuelan cards were known for such poor quality control, a card like that is truly symbolic of a Venezuelan card =E2=93 a card that was simply printed with little concern about actually finalizing the image on the printing plate. Examples of cards with these noticeable printer alignment marks are the cards of Early Wynn and Ernie Banks. The Wynn card is especially neat becauseit also has a print defect, a small print spot that looks like a hollow star-shaped asterisk that runs through the W in Wynn. Sophomore Stalwarts isanother example of a card with a print defect, two small odd looking red shapes are right in the center of Jim O=E2=99Toole=E2=99s face. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Mark Talbot talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Mark Talbot included below] > Here is the front- white back on the top > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:42:53 -0700 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 variations From: Rick I just looked at Richards variation list again and something popped out at me # 190 says curving white line. Mark sent me a picture of berberet and it had a curvingwhite line on it as well as my Venezuelan berberet does too. Since I'm out here on this limb which is not good for a big man like me could this be a Venezuelan? Could any variation from the second series be a Venezuelan instead of toppsvariation???? I think you variation freaks better dig deeper you may not be chasing variations at all but Venezuelans and then I got you in my world!!! Rick Sent from my iPad > On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:06 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > After mark brought up the grey back 60's first series and Richards variations list I'm going to debate with zero evidence at this time that mark hasVenezuelans and Richard doesn't have variations either but Venezuelans too. > I contend if Richard has card # 13 with a grey back it is a Venezuelan asSal said there can't just be one topps card printed on grey stock others would have showed up before now that's an each variation to discover. > Richard says topps card # 112 variation is no copyright on back I say this is a Venezuelan according to the information below there are 43 cards of the second series without the copyright on back. > Here's some info about Venezuelans I think you'll find interesting. Rick > Identifying The Cards: > The 1960 Venezuela Topps cards from the first series, 1-110, are very easy to distinguish because all 1960 Venezuela Topps card were printed on graystock, while all first series US Topps cards were printed on the much brighter beige/white stock. So, any card numbered 1-110 on gray stock is a Venezuela Topps card. > The second series cards, 111-198, are the most difficult of all Venezuelan cards to distinguish from 1960 US Topps cards, as the vast majority of these cards are absolutely identical down the copyright label on the back that reads =E2=9C=A9T.C.G.=E2=9D followed by a small space, =E2=9CPRTD. IN U.S.A.=E2=9D Additionally, all second series cards, both US and Venezuela Topps, were printed on gray stock. > Fortunately, 43 of the second series cards lack the printer information entirely, making them easily identifiable. Those 43 cards are listed below.However, the other 44 cards appear identical to US Topps cards, and it isthese cards that require an experienced eye to identify. > If the label is present and the origin is uncertain, I recommend using a halogen light or other bright light and doing a direct comparison with known US Topps cards. > When looking at the back of a US Topps card, the text and art image appear very crisp with deep black color. The Venezuelan card, while it appears identical at first glance, will generally have a more washed out look. Theblack ink just isn=E2=99t as dark and doesn=E2=99t appear as crisp. The texture of the back of a Venezuelan card is also noticeably different under the light. The texture of the Venezuela Topps card appears uneven and slightly bumpy, while the US Topps card has a texture that is much smoother. > US Topps =E2=93 smooth surface, bold ink=E2=8B Venezuela Topps =E2=93 uneven & bumpy > On the front of a US Topps card, the image will appear very bright and reflective. Even if the card is well worn, it will still have reflective qualities. Topps used a high quality gloss and it has held up well over the years. The Venezuelan Topps may actually have a little bit of a sheen =E2=93 as it seems like they may have applied a very sparse coating of cheap gloss that did not provide complete coverage of the entire front. The image will not have the same reflective qualities as the US card however, as it will still appear a bit duller than the US card. > Identification Labels: > All team cards do not have printer identification marks on both US and Venezuela Topps cards. The following cards in the 1960 Venezuela Topps set do not have any printer identification label at all (note that all of these cards are in the second series only): > 112, 113, 116, 119, 120, 121, 123, 124, 127, 128, 134, 135, 138, 139, 140, 141, 143, 148, 152, 153, 156, 158, 159, 161, 163, 165, 167, 168, 171, 172, 176, 177, 181, 183, 186, 187, 189, 191, 192, 193, 196, 197 > Card 136, Jim Kaat, has only =E2=9CT.C.G.=E2=9D printed on it. > US Topps =E2=93 w/ printer designation Venezuela Topps =E2=93 no designation > Final Points > The 1960 Venezuelan set does not have nearly the mystery or allure of the1959 set. It is unknown whether the second series cards are more scarce than first series, as the cards are seldom available in general. > Some cards in the 1960 set can be found with very noticeable printer alignment markings and/or repeating print defects. While a few of these type markings can be found in the US set, usually appearing much lighter on the US card, the Venezuelan set was far more prone to them. I think they are a very nice aspect of any Venezuelan card that has them. Since Venezuelan cards were known for such poor quality control, a card like that is truly symbolic of a Venezuelan card =E2=93 a card that was simply printed with little concern about actually finalizing the image on the printing plate. > Examples of cards with these noticeable printer alignment marks are the cards of Early Wynn and Ernie Banks. The Wynn card is especially neat because it also has a print defect, a small print spot that looks like a hollow star-shaped asterisk that runs through the W in Wynn. Sophomore Stalwarts is another example of a card with a print defect, two small odd looking redshapes are right in the center of Jim O=E2=99Toole=E2=99s face. > Sent from my iPad >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Mark Talbot talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Here is the front- white back on the top >> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 06 Jul 2017 18:37:01 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver Wire From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: 06 Jul 2017 19:31:37 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver Update From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 18:17:55 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Getting a refund back from paypal From: Raymond Luurs lhank you for all the help I hit the cancel and it was back into my paypal credit account immediately. I dontknow what the problem was but in the end I got out from paying for a second card of the same. I usally jusy pay for the cardas my mistake for not being careful but this time it was his account that was the problem On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Raymond Luurs > I recently bought a card from a guy i paid 17.17 to his account but when > paypal processed it it went to an account monicarlrichey @ Yahoo.com nstead > of monicarichey@yahoo.com. He has sent me several emails about paying > him and finally got him to understand what has happened and we decided to > cancel the sale. Deal is we dont know how to get refund back but since it > went to an account that neither of us has access to how do i get my money > back into my account. Any help is apprecieted ================= Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:22:15 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: card shop visit From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net I was in Lancaster, PA yesterday and visited a shop that I stop in from time to time. Bill manages the place and always pulls out something that I find hard to resist. I never spend a lot--but I always leave with something, and Bill really likes to talk. In any case, yesterday was no exception as I hadn't been to the store in at least three months. I looked through his vintage boxes and pulled four or five $1 or $2 cards. Then Bill says, "hey take a look at these, isn't it a shame." He hands me a stack of about 40 1954 Bowmans--blazers--all with a corner chewed by silverfish. Otherwise three sharp corners, original gloss, no creases. A couple HOFers (Red Schoendienst, Country and other minor stars Larson, McDougald, Pierce). Looks like some of these might be upgrades, LOL. Heck the cards even stick together a little bit as if they had just come out of a pack--and then there is the silverfish eaten corner. $.50/each--of $20 for the stack. SOLD In addition to the four or five cheap cards and the Bowmans (which included two 1953 Topps), I picked up a T205 of Leon Ames (Sweet Cap fact. 42) in fair condition, five exhibits (three salutations, one 1947-1964, and one 1963 stat back) and five 1972 beaters including two nose bleeders for $40. A decent visit and some good conversation with Bill. A great way to spend an hour. Happy hunting, Peter Mead ================= Date: 07 Jul 2017 12:47:54 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver wire: 1954 Topps Hank Aaron #128 From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 08:26:33 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Waiver wire: 1954 Topps Hank Aaron #128 From: Nate Mack Gone. Thank you for the replies, Freeman was the hot hand with the first response. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:41:28 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2017 National Roster Fill in From: mikesportsfan@aol.com So I see 30 guys on the list below plus Ron Perry responded and another 5 Iwould expect to make it: Joe Denning, Joel Glickman, Carl Mura, Nick Pelletier and Mark Talbot. I am pretty sure 36 would be a new OBC record. Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Sat ? Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2017 10:30:01 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.4 From: OBC Nick P At best I'm 50:50. Nick Pelletier > On Jul 7, 2017, at 9:41 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > So I see 30 guys on the list below plus Ron Perry responded and another 5I would expect to make it: Joe Denning, Joel Glickman, Carl Mura, Nick Pelletier and Mark Talbot. I am pretty sure 36 would be a new OBC record. > Name > Cell Phone > Hotel > Mon Game > Thurs Dinner > Fri Net54/Brewers Game > Swap Session > Days There > Sal > Domino > 516-238-8070 > Extended Stay Am North > Sunday > Y > Brewers? > Y > Sa-Su > Joe > Adriance > 703-405-0483 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Y > Tu-Su > Bob > Bannon > 203-509-9076 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > N > W-Sa > Jerry > Barnes > 937-673-0694 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Y > F-Su > Jason > Christopherson > 715-533-0437 > N > N > N > N > W-F > Doug > DeJong > 913-638-7131 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Fr-Su > Wayne > Delia > 914-204-9425 > Radisson Chicago O'Hare > N > ? > White Sox > Y > Th-Su > Richard > Dingman > 413-695-1303 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > M-Sa > Larry > Gersbach > 513-310-0195 > F-Sa > Spike > Glidden > 508-472-9915 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Net54 > Y > W-Su > Kent > Goto > 618-910-9354 > Extended Stay Am North > Y > Y > Su-Su > Tom > Housley > 937-269-7655 > Hotel Garden Inn > Y > ? > Y > Th-Su > David > Luftig > 541-525-9903 > N > N > N > Y > Sat ? > Mike > Mackie > 414-418-9507 > n/a > N > Y > Y > F-Sa > Gary > Mandell > 773-547-2112 > Home > N > Y > N > Y > Th-Sa > Ken > Morganti > 339-440-2862 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > Y > Y > Tu-M > Mike > Mroz > 586-596-2776 > F-Su > Mike > Rich > 248-709-2235 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Steve > Rittenberg > 256-585-4329 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > Su-M > Mike > Rumley-Wells > Sister's > Taylor > Schock > 919-423-5190 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > ? > Net54 > Y > Tu-Su > Wes > Shepard > 937-367-4724 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Aaron > Shirley > 618-509-3600 > Friend > N > N > Y > Sam > Taylor > 330-322-3718 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Jimi > Thayer > 740-507-5671 > Larry > Tipton > 904-318-9372 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > W-Su > TJ > Valacak > 847-927-9971 > Home > Y > Geroge > Vrechek > 312-654-8909 > Home > Y > ? > Y > W-Su > Geno > Wagner > 850-218-9204 > Family > Th > Mac > Wubben > 240-423-4605 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > Tu-Su > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 06:09:44 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Wauction #9 ***ENDS IN 24 HOURS*** From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Fair Warning Wauction #9 ends Sunday at 6AM EST! The most popular lot is lot #1 1962 Topps =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D card with nine bids. The least popular lot is lot #8 1968 Topps Tom Seaver card with just one bid. Fair Warning Wauction #9 ends Sunday at 6AM EST! ================= Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 07:01:49 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wauction #9 ***ENDS IN 24 HOURS*** From: Ken M Ends at 6 *AM* ?! My sniping program told me that's too early to set up a bid.What time do the Wauction house employees have to get up to take any last minute bids? Is this punishment for the recent "card cleaning" scandal? Or do I need to remind our esteemed wauctioneer that he is retired, so there's no need to be up that early? Just sayin', Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 6:09 AMTo: obc Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Wauction #9 ***ENDS IN 24 HOURS*** ================= Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 16:47:40 -0600 (MDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: We aren't the ONLY ones who like BB cards......... From: GRANT RAINSLEY https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/man-learns-wife-kidney-donor-match-special-pack-baseball-cards-180415077.html ================= To: Sal Domino , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 22:40:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 56 ebay lot From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 21:44:15 -0400 To: GRANT RAINSLEY Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] We aren't the ONLY ones who like BB cards......... From: Yahoo I shared this on Facebook, she posted this in the group I am a admin for. It's pretty cool. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2017, at 18:47, GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/man-learns-wife-kidney-donor-match-special-pack-baseball-cards-180415077.html > Grant ================= Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 07:24:44 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wauction RESULTS From: Larry Tipton Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #9 1. Doug DeJong 1962 Topps baseball #596 =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D 2. Nate Mack 1966 Topps baseball #50 Mickey Mantle 3. Randy Griffin 1960 Topps baseball #160 =E2=9CRival All Stars=E2=9D with Mickey Mantle Consigned by Wes Shepard 4. Matt Yudt 1959 Topps baseball #150 Stan Musial 5. Andy Huntoon 1964 Topps baseball #Minnie Minosa 6. Jay Tysver 1959 Topps baseball #552 Casey Stengal 7. Mike Glasser 1948 Bowman football #47 Bob Mann Consigned by Wes Shepard 8. Mike Galbreath 1968 Topps baseball #45 Tom Seaver 9. Ken Goetsch 1958 Topps baseball #464 Curt Flood RC 10. Mike Rumley-Wells Non Sports Special: 1978 Topps =E2=9CClose Encounters of the Third Kind=E2=9D Full Set 66 cards with 11 stickers and 3 wrappers Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 13:45:08 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Glaswegian From: Matthew Glidden Credit to my longtime association with our own GLENN CODERE, I had no problem with "Glaswegian" at a spelling contest this week. Thanks Glenn! ================= Date: 09 Jul 2017 15:19:04 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Wauction RESULTS From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:37:45 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: who collects pins From: biggies@aol.com I know I have sent out some pins but of course I can't remember who collects I have a SB XLI pin and a Mark McGuire 62 home run pin for any takers. ================= Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 19:09:11 +0000 (UTC) To: Matthew Glidden , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Glaswegian From: Glenn Codere Shouldn't this be on the Thanks server? Glad to be of service......I think....... On Sunday, July 9, 2017, 2:45:23 PM GMT+1, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Credit to my longtime association with our own GLENN CODERE, I had no problem with "Glaswegian" at a spelling contest this week. Thanks Glenn! ================= Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 22:58:27 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: We aren't the only ones who like baseball cards From: bdangelo@aol.com I'll be talking with Steve and Heather Winfree tomorrow about the card and the kidney donation for a story I'll be writing for Sports Collectors Daily. I already wrote one for Cox Media Group out of Atlanta, but the next story will be more in-depth: http://www.wsbradio.com/sports/baseball/wife-creates-special-baseball-card-tell-husband-she-kidney-donor-match/2HM0Bf0mgi2gCO0m8qcEDK/ Bob D'Angelo -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 9, 2017 9:44 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 5994 There are 6 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1a. Re: We aren't the ONLY ones who like BB cards......... From: Yahoo 2a. Wauction RESULTS From: Larry Tipton 2b. Re: Wauction RESULTS From: mikerw7 3a. Glaswegian From: Matthew Glidden 3b. Re: Glaswegian From: Glenn Codere 4. who collects pins From: biggies22000 1a. Re: We aren't the ONLY ones who like BB cards......... Posted by: "Yahoo" bucknutt2008@yahoo.com bucknutt2008 Date: Sat Jul 8, 2017 6:44 pm ((PDT)) I shared this on Facebook, she posted this in the group I am a admin for. It's pretty cool. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2017, at 18:47, GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/man-learns-wife-kidney-donor-match-special-pack-baseball-cards-180415077.html > Grant Messages in this topic (2) 2a. Wauction RESULTS Posted by: "Larry Tipton" larrytipton@windstream.net larryobc Date: Sun Jul 9, 2017 4:24 am ((PDT)) Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #9 1. Doug DeJong 1962 Topps baseball #596 =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D 2. Nate Mack 1966 Topps baseball #50 Mickey Mantle 3. Randy Griffin 1960 Topps baseball #160 =E2=9CRival All Stars=E2=9D with Mickey Mantle Consigned by Wes Shepard 4. Matt Yudt 1959 Topps baseball #150 Stan Musial 5. Andy Huntoon 1964 Topps baseball #Minnie Minosa 6. Jay Tysver 1959 Topps baseball #552 Casey Stengal 7. Mike Glasser 1948 Bowman football #47 Bob Mann Consigned by Wes Shepard 8. Mike Galbreath 1968 Topps baseball #45 Tom Seaver 9. Ken Goetsch 1958 Topps baseball #464 Curt Flood RC 10. Mike Rumley-Wells Non Sports Special: 1978 Topps =E2=9CClose Encounters of the Third Kind=E2=9D Full Set 66 cards with 11 stickers and 3 wrappers Sent from my iPhone Messages in this topic (2) 2b. Re: Wauction RESULTS Posted by: mikerw7@gmail.com mikerw7 Date: Sun Jul 9, 2017 8:19 am ((PDT)) Ohmygosh, I just completed a set THIS MORNING! Whoohoo for the Wauction and 70's Movies and completed sets! Blessings on your Sunday, everyone! Mike R-W Messages in this topic (2) 3a. Glaswegian Posted by: "Matthew Glidden" glidden.matthew@gmail.com obc_spike Date: Sun Jul 9, 2017 6:45 am ((PDT)) Credit to my longtime association with our own GLENN CODERE, I had no problem with "Glaswegian" at a spelling contest this week. Thanks Glenn! Messages in this topic (2) 3b. Re: Glaswegian Posted by: "Glenn Codere" glenncodere@yahoo.com glenncodere Date: Sun Jul 9, 2017 12:09 pm ((PDT)) Shouldn't this be on the Thanks server? Glad to be of service......I think....... On Sunday, July 9, 2017, 2:45:23 PM GMT+1, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Credit to my longtime association with our own GLENN CODERE, I had no problem with "Glaswegian" at a spelling contest this week. Thanks Glenn! Messages in this topic (2) 4. who collects pins Posted by: biggies@aol.com biggies22000 Date: Sun Jul 9, 2017 9:37 am ((PDT)) I know I have sent out some pins but of course I can't remember who collects I have a SB XLI pin and a Mark McGuire 62 home run pin for any takers. Messages in this topic (1) The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouragedon Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGSserver, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: 10 Jul 2017 23:24:58 +0000 To: Subject: Small Waiver From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: 10 Jul 2017 23:42:45 +0000 To: Subject: I give up! From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 19:50:48 -0400 To: mfmroz@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I give up! From: ShoelessWes That is the most horrible and ridiculous baseball card nightmare I have ever heard. Surely the cardboard gods must cut you a break soon.... until then, ))))) Everybody Hit Mike Mroz!!! ((((( Wes Shepard > On Jul 10, 2017, at 7:42 PM, mfmroz@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Spurred by reading the recent postings about card shop and garage sale finds and having to be in the Detroit area for a couple days for work and family, I decided to hit up a shop I haven't set FOOT (pardon the pun...) in for at least a year. > First, I can state that I have never bought a thing there other than pages, even going in once a month or so for many years. Although, I'm pretty sure Mike Rich did get a nice score there once. > I walk in, not much (ok, literally nothing) has changed, except there is a binder sitting on the glass counter. My beater-dar goes into overdrive and I slowly open the binder, immediately seeing pens marks and recognize Topps cards from 58-66, all marked up nice and pretty.... Player numbers, position letters, trade notations, even the addition of facial hair.....wow, these must be hipster Heritage sets...., but no, they are real Topps cards,w hose previous owner must have been told, NO, you CANNOT get a TATTOO, sohe inked up ALL his cards. I thought I died and went to OBC heaven.... Istart flipping through and see an odd 74 and 76 scattered throughout....noink on those, maybe tattoo boy got his ink sometime in the late-1960's....hmmm > I see no high numbers, no stars, not even a handful of minor stars..... I'm thinking 10 cents a card, maybe round down from there on my offer for the whole binder (roughly 100-120 cards). All of a sudden, out pops the guywho runs/owns the store. Never been much a talker - cordial enough, but not the kind of cat you can talk about the Tigers with.....forgot to mention, half the store is comics and this dude seems more like a comics lover than a sports fan..... > I say to him "someone got a little carried away with a pen". He replies with "yeah, that's why I have them all marked down to 5 0 CENTS apiece". Icouldn't help myself blurt out "what if I take the whole binder off your hands?" > I almost fell over when he says "No way I can sell you them all - I sell about one a month and don't want to deplete my inventory...." I decide to push my luck and say "do you have any more like these?" Hoping the stash in the back might have an odd start or hi-#. He replies, "Yeah, I got four more binders, but I can only pull those out once I move whats in that one....." > All of a sudden, I hear the Twilight Zone theme and Rod Serling's voice in my head, so I said "thanks" and left the store. I stopped at the gas station next door and was going to pick up the last six Reese's Easter Eggs that were marked 50% off to take home to the family, but the clerk would onlysell me one, saying he couldn't deplete his inventory. > When I see Mike Rich at the National, I'm gonna ask him what he used to crack that cat - sleep deprivation, fingernail removal, 30 hours straight ofBoy George's Do You Really Want to Hurt Me? or waterboarding. > Thanks for reading... > Mike Mroz ================= Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 20:51:25 -0400 To: mfmroz@prodigy.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I give up! From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Is that the shop on Gratiot? He has no clue how to move merchandise. I had to argue with him to get a Super Bowl program at 1/2 off that had the date he marked it, which was over 10 years ago. I do stop in every 6 monthsor so if I am in the neighborhood. I did get a neat item that Sam Taylor said he was going to frame for his man cave. Years ago I picked up a 1952 Bowman Yogi Berra and another time I did get a 1953 Glendale card for about$10. No selection and less help. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: mfmroz ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 10, 2017 8:01 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I give up! Unbelievable. Uhhh...how do you get more inventory? Cash. How do you getcash? Sell current inventory. As most of you know, I'm an airline pilot.I think I'll email the CEO of Delta Air Lines and tell him not to sell all the seats, because it will deplete the inventory of the people who walk up to the counter and buy a ticket at the last minute, like in Meet the Parents or Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. What a tool... Take Care, From: "mfmroz@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 5:42 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I give up! Spurred by reading the recent postings about card shop and garage sale finds and having to be in the Detroit area for a couple days for work and family, I decided to hit up a shop I haven't set FOOT (pardon the pun...) in forat least a year. First, I can state that I have never bought a thing there other than pages,even going in once a month or so for many years. Although, I'm pretty sure Mike Rich did get a nice score there once. I walk in, not much (ok, literally nothing) has changed, except there is a binder sitting on the glass counter. My beater-dar goes into overdrive andI slowly open the binder, immediately seeing pens marks and recognize Topps cards from 5 8-66, all marked up nice and pretty.... Player numbers, position letters, trade notations, even the addition of facial hair.....wow, these must be hipster Heritage sets...., but no, they are real Topps cards, whose previous owner must have been told, NO, you CANNOT get a TATTOO, so he inked up ALL his cards. I thought I died and went to OBC heaven.... I start flipping through and see an odd 74 and 76 scattered throughout....no ink on those, maybe tattoo boy got his ink sometime in the late-1960's....hmmm I see no high numbers, no stars, not even a handful of minor stars..... I'm thinking 10 cents a card, maybe round down from there on my offer for thewhole binder (roughly 100-120 cards). All of a sudden, out pops the guy who runs/owns the store. Never been much a talker - cordial enough, but notthe kind of cat you can talk about the Tigers with.....forgot to mention,half the store is comics and this dude seems more like a comics lover thana sports fan..... I say to him "someone got a little carried away with a pen". He replies with "yeah, that's why I have them all marked down to 50 CENTS apiece". I couldn't help myself blurt out "what if I take the whole binder off your hands?" I almost fell over when he says "No way I can sell you them all - I sell about one a month and don't want to deplete my inventory...." I decide to push my luck and say "do you have any more like these?" Hoping the stash in the back might have an odd start or hi-#. He replies, "Yeah, I got four more binders, but I can only pull those out once I move whats in that one....." All of a sudden, I hear the Twilight Zone theme and Rod Serling's voice in my head, so I said "th anks" and left the store. I stopped at the gas station next door and was going to pick up the last six Reese's Easter Eggs that were marked 50% off to take home to the family, but the clerk would only sell me one, saying he couldn't deplete his inventory. When I see Mike Rich at the National, I'm gonna ask him what he used to crack that cat - sleep deprivation, fingernail removal, 30 hours straight of Boy George's Do You Really Want to Hurt Me? or waterboarding. Thanks for reading... Mike Mroz ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 01:56:30 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Did an OBCer grab these? From: Matthew Glidden Haven't seen this many hole punches since 3rd grade. Great deal, given the cards and stars. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-36-Diamond-Stars-lot-of-19-Poor-Condition-Averill-Rice-Rogel-Burns-Cuyler-/272757159059 ================= Date: 11 Jul 2017 03:30:26 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Did an OBCer grab these? From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:45:13 +0000 Subject: The House Of David baseball team From: Shawn Smart Has anyone ever heard of this? http://mashable.com/2017/05/20/house-of-david-baseball-team/#DWF4g5LF5mqX [https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/eOcpVrnCHfubXDtMgSWdbhY1siY/1200x630/2017/05/20/43/c288393ad1c74c919c634de7fb75f9ed.e8b5f.jpg] c. 1903-1950. The House of David baseball team. The bearded cultists of America's pastime. by Anna Hider ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:42:32 +0000 Subject: Anybody interested in t210-3's? From: Mac Wubben Anybody interested in sharing a lot of T210-3's (texas leaguers)? Neat cards, but not too many people seem to collect them. If you're interested insharing a lot of them, let me know. ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 11:20:30 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: The House Of David baseball team From: Doug Smith Didn"t they used to play basketball against the Globetrotters? ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:36:31 -0600 (MDT) To: Doug Smith Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team From: GRANT RAINSLEY Not sure if they played them, but they were certainly the baseball equivalent. They used to barnstorm, including playing teams in the Negro Leagues, as well as Major Leaguers........I remember seeing a picture somewhere of Ruth after a game against them, and he was wearing a fake beard.......pretty funny, actually. By all accounts their antics on the field were hilarious, but they were known as a darned good team as well.......... From: "Doug Smith fardownthescale@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:20:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Didn"t they used to play basketball against the Globetrotters? ================= To: "'GRANT RAINSLEY'" , Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:43:21 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team From: "Bob Donaldson" I remember a movie about Grover Cleveland alexander w/ Ronald Reagan showing him wearing a fake beard to play with the House of David. I think the movie was =E2=9CThe winning Team=E2=9D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:37 PM To: Doug Smith Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Not sure if they played them, but they were certainly the baseball equivalent. They used to barnstorm, including playing teams in the Negro Leagues, as well as Major Leaguers........I remember seeing a picture somewhere of Ruth after a game against them, and he was wearing a fake beard.......pretty funny, actually. By all accounts their antics on the field were hilarious, but they were known as a darned good team as well.......... From: "Doug Smith fardownthescale@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:20:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Didn"t they used to play basketball against the Globetrotters? ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 13:25:04 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Yaz/McLain card From: Bob Donaldson Does anyone know what this is? Picked it up at a flea market? A little smaller than a topps card and blank backed ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 17:39:02 +0000 To: Bob Donaldson , 'Doug Smith' , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team--Good read From: If anyone is looking for a fun book to read, I suggest Harry Turteldove's "House of Daniel". It is a semi-alternate history book, set in the 1930's, about a fictional barnstorming team called "The House of Daniel". Along with being a fun book, the number of real baseball players that show up, under altered name--i.e. Satchell Paige is Carpet Bag Booker. It's a lot of funtrying to figure out who's who. The one other aspect, which I thought diddetract from the book for a baseball fan, was the introduction of magical creatures. Not a major part of the story, but interspersed throughout. Bob N. ---- "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" I remember a movie about Grover Cleveland alexander w/ Ronald Reagan showing him wearing a fake beard to play with the House of David. I think the movie was =E2=9CThe winning Team=E2=9D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:37 PM To: Doug Smith Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Not sure if they played them, but they were certainly the baseball equivalent. They used to barnstorm, including playing teams in the Negro Leagues, as well as Major Leaguers........I remember seeing a picture somewhere of Ruth after a game against them, and he was wearing a fake beard.......pretty funny, actually. By all accounts their antics on the field were hilarious, but they were known as a darned good team as well.......... From: "Doug Smith fardownthescale@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:20:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Didn"t they used to play basketball against the Globetrotters? ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Shawn Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:11:14 +0000 Subject: Re: The House Of David baseball team From: Aaron Shirley Does anyone remember a few years ago when Helmar Brewing Company made thosesuperthick sports cards? Like 2007ish? There were some House of David guysin there. I can't so far find a list online. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:36:56 +0000 Subject: 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR From: Aaron Shirley Does this card really exist? Does anyone have it? http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/82/cid/32026/1980-Topps-424a-Billy-Martin ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:49:11 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team From: Joel Freedman https://helmarblog.com/helmar-collector-checklists/ On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Joel Freedman > http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/helmar-brewing-co-cards- > attracting-plenty-of-attention/ > "He began producing a series of old-fashioned looking baseball cards, > based on original art done by the artists in his employ. The cards have the > look and feel of the famous T206 set. The cards are the same size as the > T206s but are made of thicker cardboard and have tan borders instead of > white ones. This initial set, which Mandel called =E2=9CFamous Athletes,=E2=9D > released in four series over a period of eight years, from 2005-12, and > totals 300 cards. The majority of the players in the set are major league > players from baseball=E2=99s =E2=9CGolden Age,=E2=9D but included are a few minor leaguers > and boxers, as well as Negro Leaguers, Japanese players and members of the > House of David barnstorming teams." > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Does anyone remember a few years ago when Helmar Brewing Company made >> those superthick sports cards? Like 2007ish? There were some House of David >> guys in there. I can't so far find a list online. >> Aaron ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 14:48:12 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team From: Joel Freedman http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/helmar-brewing-co-cards-attracting-plenty-of-attention/ "He began producing a series of old-fashioned looking baseball cards, based on original art done by the artists in his employ. The cards have the look and feel of the famous T206 set. The cards are the same size as the T206s but are made of thicker cardboard and have tan borders instead of white ones. This initial set, which Mandel called =E2=9CFamous Athletes,=E2=9D was released in four series over a period of eight years, from 2005-12, and totals 300 cards. The majority of the players in the set are major league players from baseball=E2=99s =E2=9CGolden Age,=E2=9D but included are a few minor leaguers and boxers, as well as Negro Leaguers, Japanese players and members of the House of David barnstorming teams." On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does anyone remember a few years ago when Helmar Brewing Company made > those superthick sports cards? Like 2007ish? There were some House of David > guys in there. I can't so far find a list online. > Aaron ================= Date: 11 Jul 2017 21:01:50 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: "'Aaron Shirley'" , Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 18:37:14 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR From: "Matt Yudt" Now there's a binder I haven't opened in a while! But I was curious who WAS the manager on my card. Mine says Doogie Howser. I mean Dick. Hey, $1.75 each for G/VG 51 bowmans is a good price, right? Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:37 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR Does this card really exist? Does anyone have it? The holy grail House of David card is a 1931 W590 of Grover Alexander. It'svery rare and even more expensive. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:36:11 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR From: Ken M I had a hunch this was a proof card ala 1967 Maris on the Yankees (or I had read something about it before.) I found an article that confirmed this:http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/1980-topps-baseball-set/ Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'Matt Yudt' mryudt@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Jul 11, 2017 6:36 PMTo: 'Aaron Shirley';obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR Now there’s a binder I haven’t opened in a while!  But I was curious who WAS the manager on my card.  Mine says Doogie Howser.  I mean Dick. PSHey, $1.75 each for G/VG 51 bowmans is a good price, right?  Cheers,Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:37 PM To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR   Does this card really exist? Does anyone have it?http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/82/cid/32026/1980-Topps-424a-Billy-MartinAaron Posted by: "Matt Yudt" > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html ================= Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:50:10 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR From: Andy Huntoon Hi Aaron, I've never seen one in person, but my Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards book has an image of it. It's listed as a 1980 Topps N.Y. Yankees On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does this card really exist? Does anyone have it? > http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/82/cid/32026/ > 1980-Topps-424a-Billy-Martin > Aaron > ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 00:42:08 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Topps Yankees team with Billy Martin MGR From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 01:08:38 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: need 2 custom cards made From: mark zentkovich there are two owners in the football hall of fame that have zero or one cards I have a notebook of all football hall of famers. could someone with the skill and time make me a custom card to put in the binder for Dan Rooney and Ralph Wilson thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: 12 Jul 2017 01:27:57 +0000 To: Subject: Re: need 2 custom cards made From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: "'GRANT RAINSLEY'" , Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:42:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team From: "Sal Domino" I think they had a TV show=E2=A6 called David Dynasty=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:37 PM To: Doug Smith Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Not sure if they played them, but they were certainly the baseball equivalent. They used to barnstorm, including playing teams in the Negro Leagues, as well as Major Leaguers........I remember seeing a picture somewhere of Ruth after a game against them, and he was wearing a fake beard.......pretty funny, actually. By all accounts their antics on the field were hilarious, but they were known as a darned good team as well.......... From: "Doug Smith fardownthescale@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:20:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: The House Of David baseball team Didn"t they used to play basketball against the Globetrotters? ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:11:25 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: vintage hoop From: Sean McGowan I do have some interesting hoop cards that someone must want :) This picture is crappy, but good enough if you recognize the set. I will mail these if you want them. The stuff from the other list you will have to pick up :( The coin in the picture is a Mell Ott... real gold! :) ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:12:54 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: vintage football and baseball From: Sean McGowan sorry, in that last post, there are football and baseball too. I hope they will help someone. ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 12:14:50 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1975, a good year? Waivers. From: chris tripler I picked up 150 '75 commons in decent shape yesterday hoping to add significantly to Kent's quest but only managed to pull 6 for his WL. Anyone still in need of '75s or is thinking of going down the '75x9 rabbit hole? Let me know! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:58:15 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: really cleaning out the dupes! From: Sean McGowan Here is a bunch of stuff that you may want. But, you have to come get it. Let me know if you have questions. *Topps baseball* =E2=9969 =E2=93 =E2=9978 1500 (includes 900 =E2=9977) =E2=9978 300 =E2=9979 200 =E2=9973-=E2=9976 100 *Other stuff* Hoop, Hockey, Non-sports 150 (some =E2=9975-=E2=9976 hoop + globetrotters 800 Boston Redsox, mostly =E290=E2=99s, all brands =E2=9976-=E277 Hockey 50 =E2=9974-=E2=9977 football 400 Minor league cards of Sean McGowan (Giants) 1000 :) ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:21:22 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Sean' 48,000 dupes and gracious Ken M. From: Sean McGowan Ken is going to bring stuff to the National for me. So, if you want anything (I also posted a UV list) just let me know and I will put your name on it and give it to Ken. Thanks a ton Ken... wait, I don't think they weigh quite a ton :) ================= Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:31:59 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Sean' 48,000 dupes and gracious Ken M. From: Ken M Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your viewpoint), I won't be bringing the kids with me to NY. I can pull their car seats out before I leave and fit a lot more stuff to haul to Chicago. Mom got shingles and they had to postpone THEIR trip to PA (to pick up my nieces) and NY (where I would drop off my two) and spend some time with all four of their grandkids. That one will probably happen when I get back in August.  I'm also bringing a couple boxes from Sean that he gave me LAST YEAR. Binders of all sorts and sizes, so feel free to take any or all. I don't want to bring ANY of this stuff back.  Get those claims into Sean. I plan to cherry pick whatever's left :-) Two weeks to go til the Sneak Peek! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Sean McGowan seanobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 12, 2017 2:29 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Sean' 48,000 dupes and gracious Ken M. Kids,   Ken is going to bring stuff to the National for me.  So, if you want anything (I also posted a UV list) just let me know and I will put your name on it and give it to Ken.Thanks a ton Ken... wait, I don't think they weigh quite a ton :)Sean ================= To: , Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:39:22 -0400 Subject: 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.5 From: "Sal Domino" Ok kids, it's getting real close now. I'll be there in 10 days, and I need to buy a new suitcase and backpack. Just about all handshakes are complete and we are finding others who may just show up to the National. It's getting good now! I need to know ASAP if anyone is going to be around for the Cubs game on Sunday night. I want to buy the cheap tickets before the weekend. Here is the autograph schedule for the National. All the green ones are VIP signers. You may have their tickets in your package. If not, use one of the 6 or so wild card tickets that are in the envelope. http://www.tristarproductions.com/National/index.html 34 names so far (a couple of ???), but this is looking like the largest contingent of OBCers ever! So let's fill in those blanks! Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Courtyard Chicago O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Sat ? Motel 6 Elk Grove Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Hilton Garden Inn Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 20:48:10 -0400 Subject: FW: National From: "Sal Domino" Mike is gauging interest on Sports Illustrated magazines he picked up. Let me know if any of you guys have an interest. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: Mike McCann [mailto:mmccann1@stny.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 4:50 PM To: Sal Domino Subject: Re: National I can't wait!! Do any of OBC guys collect Sports Illustrated magazines? I picked up a couple collections from late 60's to early 80's. Probably about 500-600 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:13:10 -0400 To: obc Ramblings , Subject: re: Kents '75 Topps Quest From: LAWRENCE TIPTON You=E2=99re killing me smalls! Today I pulled out three 1975 cards that were a part of your =E2=9Chandshake=E2=9D that apparently you no longer need them LOL! Please stay off COMC! Or should I just email you and tellyou what I have so you can mark them off! I had a Brett RC for you, but apparently that page is full, so it moves to the =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D side! ================= To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:31:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Kents '75 Topps Quest From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: 14 Jul 2017 00:08:20 +0000 To: Subject: Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:49:23 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: starting Topps Look n See From: Larry Tipton Ed and all: first reach out to OBC Certified dealer Alan Miley when starting any non sports set. You won't be disappointed! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "jehutch75@gmail.com" Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:30:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:07:35 -0700 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) From: Rick Contact Alan Miley he use to have big lots for sale in different grades Sent from my iPad > On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:30 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't think it's 52 Topps hard. But lots are not too easy to find at discount prices. I think cards in lots go for $2 to $3 a card minimum and up.As well, There aren't many lots over 50 cards or so. > It's doable, but may take some time. > If you are wanting to get a set from around that time 1950 Topps Freedom's War is quite affordable and you can find starter lots for good prices. > I can't speak about Topps Scoops, but that is also a cool set. > Jay Tysver > On Jul 13, 2017, at 7:08 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Ok, I know Babe Ruth and Rembrandt are pretty rare/expensive...what about the rest of the set? Is it a realistic attempt, or are we talking 52 Topps baseball hard here? >> Also- anyone have a few lying around? I would dealer scum them from you if need be- I like this set and think it would be cool to put together! >> Ed ================= Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:46:07 -0700 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) From: John Stamper It is a set you can complete. Rembrandt will be the most expensive and thanRuth. All others are reasonably priced. Keep searching and you can find lots. It's a really nice set. Alan Miley had starter sets about six months ago. He may still have some. The Scoops set is sweet as well, but harder to finish. But it comes with more Baseball and Sports stars. John Stamper > On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:08 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Ok, I know Babe Ruth and Rembrandt are pretty rare/expensive...what aboutthe rest of the set? Is it a realistic attempt, or are we talking 52 Toppsbaseball hard here? > Also- anyone have a few lying around? I would dealer scum them from you if need be- I like this set and think it would be cool to put together! > Ed ================= Date: 14 Jul 2017 02:32:30 +0000 To: Subject: One card oddball waiver tonight From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:16:50 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Stan Hack collectors? From: Steve Rittenberg Does anyone collect Stan Hack stuff? Or Cubs stuff? I think Geno at one point collected Cubs stuff but I don't know now. Thanks for reading. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:27:59 -0600 To: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stan Hack collectors? From: Geno Wagner I never had a Cub collection, but my brother did, when he was in OBC for a couple years, back in the 90s. Take Care, Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does anyone collect Stan Hack stuff? Or Cubs stuff? I think Geno at > one point collected Cubs stuff but I don't know now. > Thanks for reading. > Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 01:26:00 -0400 (EDT) To: JAY TYSVER , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 I will chime in as well - the Look & See set is very doable with the already mentioned Rembrandt and Ruth taking you some time to find affordably. Other cards that may give you trouble include Lindbergh, Earhart, Sitting Bull, Herbert, Joan of Arc and Queen Elizabeth, at least from my experience. There are 135 cards in the set w/no variations that I am aware of. The Scoop set has 156 cards and was distributed in 2 series, the secondseries starting at card 79 are more difficult to find. Cards that get a premium include Lindbergh, Feller, Dempsey, Louis, Ruth, Marciano, Sullivan,4 Horseman, Owens, Hogan, Braves move, 26 Inning game - not surprisingly mostly the sport crossover issues. This issue can be found with black wax bars covering the front picture as they were issued this way but most cards you find have the black bars "wiped away". The Freedom's war set was also mentioned which is an earlier set from Bowman in 1950 and the same size as sports cards of that era. There are 203 cards in the set and have a ton of variations. For one, most cards were issued with grey and tan backs, and because they were issued as single cards and as 2-card panels they can be found with and w/o perforations. Cards 1-96 can also be found with and w/o caption on the front - I think these are only found on the tan back cards. The short printed Tanks subset (cards 97-103) are very difficult to find especially in 1 piece since they were die cut, but some none die cut cards have been reported - but they are only found on tan stock. Other sets from the era that usually garner good reviews from our membership (sans Mike Rich of course) include Sails & Rails, Wings, World on Wheels, Presidents, Flags of the World, Davy Crockett, Zooro, Round-up - justto name a few. Let me know if you would like a little review on any of these sets. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------ MARK > On July 13, 2017 at 9:07 PM "Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Contact Alan Miley he use to have big lots for sale in different grades > Sent from my iPad > On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:30 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com mailto:JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think it's 52 Topps hard. But lots are not too easy to find at discount prices. I think cards in lots go for $2 to $3 a card minimum and up. As well, There aren't many lots over 50 cards or so. > > It's doable, but may take some time. > > If you are wanting to get a set from around that time 1950 Topps Freedom's War is quite affordable and you can find starter lots for good prices. > > I can't speak about Topps Scoops, but that is also a cool set. > > > > Jay Tysver > > > > On Jul 13, 2017, at 7:08 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com mailto:jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, I know Babe Ruth and Rembrandt are pretty rare/expensive...what about the rest of the set? Is it a realistic attempt, or are we talking 52 Topps baseball hard here? > > > > > > > > > Also- anyone have a few lying around? I would dealer scumthem from you if need be- I like this set and think it would be cool to put > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: 14 Jul 2017 08:44:48 +0000 To: Subject: 1978 Quest--To Each His Own From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: 14 Jul 2017 09:27:02 +0000 To: Subject: Re: 1978 Quest--To Each His Own From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 08:06:23 -0400 To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com, jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to From: Mike Glasser This is a great set. I paid $65 (I think) for Rembrandt in VG/EX off center a while ago. There are other SPs that command a premium - Amundsen, Stevenson, Rockefeller, Joan of Arc and a few others too I believe. I'll see what my dupe box says... Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: jehutch75 Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Jul 13, 2017 9:46 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) It is a set you can complete. Rembrandt will be the most expensive and thanRuth. All others are reasonably priced. Keep searching and you can find lots. It's a really nice set. Alan Miley had starter sets about six months ago. He may still have some. The Scoops set is sweet as well, but harder to finish. But it comes with more Baseball and Sports stars. John Stamper On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:08 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Ok, I know Babe Ruth and Rembrandt are pretty rare/expensive...what about the rest of the set? Is it a realistic attempt, or are we talking 52 Topps baseball hard here? Also- anyone have a few lying around? I would dealer scum them from you if need be- I like this set and think it would be cool to put together! ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:36:54 -0400 To: mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1978 Quest--To Each His Own From: mikesportsfan@aol.com While I do have the OPC and Burger King issues, I do not yet have the Zest set nor the team checklist sheet. There is always more to find and get. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 4:44 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1978 Quest--To Each His Own There's been a lot of talk on the OBC Facebook page about a 1978 Quest, as in 9-Card Quest. I've been going through my MANY 1978s, and trying to get my wantlist put together. Today I made a decision. Judge me if you must. I'm going for 6 of each. Yes, I know, not nearly as cool looking as a complete page of each. I'm going to live with this. Perhaps I will complete my 6-Quest and push for thefinal 3. We'll see. But I'm (obviously) much closer to pulling it off this way, will have many more cards to send to my fellow Questers, and inspired--or led astray--by some of my brethren (Tysver, Morganti, and Valacak and El Pastor Shirley), I've decided I want to go after the 1978 zen master set of sets, so dubbed by TJ: Burger King Team Checklist Dynamite Magazine I might have lived on happily, had I not known these existed. Now, I'm aiming to collect them all. Knowing Mike Rich, he's already got all these. That's fine. 1978x6 plus subsets. Just FYI. Go, Questers! Peace and Joy, Mike R-W ================= Date: 14 Jul 2017 15:06:07 +0000 To: Subject: Cool article on MLB uniforms From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 14:59:26 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1962 topps greenie question From: smartalecx@aol.com the following second series cards have picture variations. i have always assumed that there was the base card, and then the 2nd pose, usually a green tint, was the second card. do any of the following have 4 cards - i.e. 2 basic poses (regular and green) and two alternate poses (regular and green)? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:07:18 -0400 To: Gary Mandell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 topps greenie question From: Joel Freedman here are the greenie photos courtesy of Tom housely https://www.flickr.com/photos/obctom/sets/72157602774575697/ On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 2:59 PM, smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > the following second series cards have picture variations. i have always > assumed that there was the base card, and then the 2nd pose, usually a > green tint, was the second card. > do any of the following have 4 cards - i.e. 2 basic poses (regular and > green) and two alternate poses (regular and green)? > thanks > Gary Mandell > 4243 North Claremont Avenue > Chicago, IL 60618-2905 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:31:12 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: smartalecx@aol.com the following second series cards have picture variations. i have always assumed that there was the base card, and then the 2nd pose, usually a green tint, was the second card. do any of the following have 4 cards - i.e. 2 basic poses (regular and green) and two alternate poses (regular and green)? #129 Lee Walls - facing left or right #134 Billy Hoeft - facing straight or slightly left #147 Bill Kunkel - portrait or pitching #174 Carl Willey - with or without cap #176 Eddie Yost - portrait or batting #190 Wally Moon - portrait or batting finally, i saw something that says cards 458 and 462 have a variation where there is no logo on the cap. can anyone verify this? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:41:49 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Subject: National Prep - new wantlist From: smartalecx@aol.com as I get ready preparing handshakes for National in 2 weeks, i have decided to add a project i have been thinking about for some time - a 1962 greenie/variation only set. i have about half of it done already, so i am hoping to get close by the end of the month 1962 TOPPS GREEN TINT/VARIATION WANT LIST - if you aren't sure, you can see scans at https://www.flickr.com/photos/obctom/sets/72157602774575697/ 110, 113, 116, 119, 125, 127, 128, 129 green sky, facing your right), 130, 131, 133, 134 (light bank to right of cap), 135, 136, 137, 138, 139 (the famous slugger green tint), 139 (reniff portrait), 139 (green tint reniff pitching), 140, 142, 143, 144, 147 (green tint kunkel pitching), 150, 154, 157, 158, 159, 160, 163, 167, 169, 170, 174 (willey with cap), 175, 176 (green tint yost batting), 181, 183, 185, 190 (moon batting), 191, 192, 194, 196 458, 462 (not green tint, both without hat logos, need 2 of each) thanks for looking and for any help you might be able to provide Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:50:40 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Queen of the Greenies?! From: Mike Diamanti Whoa Cardboard Sickies: When did Tom Housley get the tiara, I mean crown, as Queen of the Greenies? Did I miss an important set of e-mails? Or maybe he is the resident expert now, but Grant (Come on Over to Blood Island) Rainsley, is the chief publicist and originator of OBC members collecting a sub-set that has been known to make ex-policemen weep into their Kokanees (plural). I'm ready for my upgrade, I mean update............... Coffeedude Diamanti, Mike ================= To: "'Mike Diamanti'" , Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 13:19:08 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Queen of the Greenies?! From: "Grant Rainsley" I readily admit that Tom has done far more work than I as far as posting pics, cataloging variations, etc. But let there be no doubt in your collective minds that NOBODY has ever been more fixated on those suckers than I=E2=A6=E2=A6..it was way more than a passion=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..maybe even a sickness. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Diamanti islandcoffeeman@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: July 14, 2017 12:51 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Queen of the Greenies?! Whoa Cardboard Sickies: When did Tom Housley get the tiara, I mean crown, as Queen of the Greenies? Did I miss an important set of e-mails? Or maybe he is the resident expert now, but Grant (Come on Over to Blood Island) Rainsley, is the chief publicist and originator of OBC members collecting a sub-set that has been known to make ex-policemen weep into their Kokanees I'm ready for my upgrade, I mean update............... Coffeedude Diamanti, Mike This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:35:52 -0400 To: talbot1@comcast.net, JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to From: Mike Glasser Have you ever seen a Freedom's War tank that isn't die cut? I finished my set years ago but now I'm worried... Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: MARK TALBOT talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: JAY TYSVER ; Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] ; Rick Cc: OBC-Ramblings ; jehutch75 Sent: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 1:26 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) I will chime in as well - the Look & See set is very doable with the already mentioned Rembrandt and Ruth taking you some time to find affordably. Other cards that may give you trouble include Lindbergh, Earhart, Sitting Bull, Herbert, Joan of Arc and Queen Elizabeth, at least from my experience. There are 135 cards in the set w/no variations that I am aware of. The Scoop set has 156 cards and was distributed in 2 series, the secondseries starting at card 79 are more difficult to find. Cards that get a premium include Lindbergh, Feller, Dempsey, Louis, Ruth, Marciano, Sullivan,4 Horseman, Owens, Hogan, Braves move, 26 Inning game - not surprisingly mostly the sport crossover issues. This issue can be found with black wax bars covering the front picture as they were issued this way but most cards you find have the black bars "wiped away". =01 60; The Freedom's war set was also mentioned which is an earlier setfrom Bowman in 1950 and the same size as sports cards of that era. There are 203 cards in the set and have a ton of variations. For one, most cardswere issued with grey and tan backs, and because they were issued as single cards and as 2-card panels they can be found with and w/o perforations. Cards 1-96 can also be found with and w/o caption on the front - I think these are only found on the tan back cards. The short printed Tanks subset (cards 97-103) are very difficult to find especially in 1 piece since they were die cut, but some none die cut cards have been reported - but they are only found on tan stock. Other sets from the era that usually garner good reviews from our membership (sans Mike Rich of course) include Sails & Rails, Wings, World on Wheels, Presidents, Flags of the World, Davy Crockett, Zooro, Rou nd-up - just to name a few. Let me know if you would like a little review on any of these sets. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------ MARK On July 13, 2017 at 9:07 PM "Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Contact Alan Miley he use to have big lots for sale in different grades Sent from my iPad On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:30 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] I don't think it's 52 Topps hard. But lots are not too easy to find at discount prices. I think cards in lots go for $2 to $3 a card minimum and up. As well, There aren't many lots over 50 cards or so. It's doable, but may take some time. If you are wanting to get a set from around that time 1950 Topps Freedom's War is quite affordable and you can find starter lots for good prices. I can't speak about Topps Scoops, but that is also a cool set. Jay Tysver On Jul 13, 2017, at 7:08 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Ok, I know Babe Ruth and Rembrandt are pretty rare/expensive...what about the rest of the set? Is it a realistic attempt, or are we talking 52 Topps baseball hard here? Also- anyone have a few lying around? I would dealer scum them from you if need be- I like this set and think it would be cool to put together! ================= Date: 14 Jul 2017 21:50:17 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Queen of the Greenies?! From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 17:50:32 -0400 To: obc-ramblings Subject: Need some references please From: Andy Huntoon Hello OBC, I was recently contacted by a Mark Zimmerman who said he has made trades/sales to several OBCers over the years. Could any of you please provide references for Mark if you've dealt with him before? Thanks a lot, Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! ================= To: "'MARK TALBOT'" , Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:05:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) From: "Sal Domino" How about writing reviews for the library? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MARK TALBOT talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 1:26 AM To: JAY TYSVER; Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]; Rick Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Look N See- a few questions (I want to start the set) I will chime in as well - the Look & See set is very doable with the already mentioned Rembrandt and Ruth taking you some time to find affordably. Other cards that may give you trouble include Lindbergh, Earhart, Sitting Bull, Herbert, Joan of Arc and Queen Elizabeth, at least from my experience. There are 135 cards in the set w/no variations that I am aware of. The Scoop set has 156 cards and was distributed in 2 series, the secondseries starting at card 79 are more difficult to find. Cards that get a premium include Lindbergh, Feller, Dempsey, Louis, Ruth, Marciano, Sullivan,4 Horseman, Owens, Hogan, Braves move, 26 Inning game - not surprisingly mostly the sport crossover issues. This issue can be found with black wax bars covering the front picture as they were issued this way but most cards you find have the black bars "wiped away". 60; The Freedom's war set was also mentioned which is an earlier set from Bowman in 1950 and the same size as sports cards of that era. There are 203 cards in the set and have a ton of variations. For one, most cards were issued with grey and tan backs, and because they were issued as single cards and as 2-card panels they can be found with and w/o perforations. Cards 1-96 can also be found with and w/o caption on the front - I think these are only found on the tan back cards. The short printed Tanks subset (cards 97-103) are very difficult to find especially in 1 piece since they were die cut, but some none die cut cards have been reported - but they are onlyfound on tan stock. Other sets from the era that usually garner good reviews from our membership (sans Mike Rich of course) include Sails & Rails, Wings, World on Wheels, Presidents, Flags of the World, Davy Crockett, Zooro, Rou nd-up - just to name a few. Let me know if you would like a little review on any of these sets. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------ MARK On July 13, 2017 at 9:07 PM "Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Contact Alan Miley he use to have big lots for sale in different grades Sent from my iPad On Jul 13, 2017, at 5:30 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] I don't think it's 52 Topps hard. But lots are not too easy to find at discount prices. I think cards in lots go for $2 to $3 a card minimum and up. As well, There aren't many lots over 50 cards or so. It's doable, but may take some time. If you are wanting to get a set from around that time 1950 Topps Freedom's War is quite affordable and you can find starter lots for good prices. I can't speak about Topps Scoops, but that is also a cool set. Jay Tysver On Jul 13, 2017, at 7:08 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Ok, I know Babe Ruth and Rembrandt are pretty rare/expensive...what about the rest of the set? Is it a realistic attempt, or are we talking 52 Topps baseball hard here? Also- anyone have a few lying around? I would dealer scum them from you if need be- I like this set and think it would be cool to put together! ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:50:57 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: What's the variation? From: Andy Cook 1949 MP&Co Bob Lemon -- I know there's a variation, but I can't remember what and my SCD is too old to show it. Help! Sent from my iPad ================= To: , Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:47:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: "Sal Domino" Here's the ones out of the greenie range. Yes I can verify as I have them 1962 Topps 4th Ser Checklist Dark Wood Border Light Wood Border/Boxes are Lower 1962 Topps 5th Ser Checklist Dark Wood Border Light Wood Border 1962 Topps 6th Ser Checklist "Checklist" in Larger Font "Checklist" in Smaller Font 1962 Topps "M" on Cap Plain Cap 1962 Topps "W" on Cap Plain Cap 1962 Topps 7th Ser Checklist Yellow Boxes on Front White Boxes on Front Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:31 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction the following second series cards have picture variations. i have always assumed that there was the base card, and then the 2nd pose, usually a green tint, was the second card. do any of the following have 4 cards - i.e. 2 basic poses (regular and green) and two alternate poses (regular and green)? . #129 Lee Walls - facing left or right . #134 Billy Hoeft - facing straight or slightly left . #147 Bill Kunkel - portrait or pitching . #174 Carl Willey - with or without cap . #176 Eddie Yost - portrait or batting . #190 Wally Moon - portrait or batting finally, i saw something that says cards 458 and 462 have a variation where there is no logo on the cap. can anyone verify this? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: "'Andy Cook'" , Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 22:00:34 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? From: "Sal Domino" From George's book (Keep in mind this is 1943): Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 8:51 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? 1949 MP&Co Bob Lemon -- I know there's a variation, but I can't remember what and my SCD is too old to show it. Help! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 00:12:14 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: Ken M Gary,  Each card with a pose variation has just two versions, not four. One of the poses is the green tint and the other is the sharper, clearer (corrected) pose. The only exception (which you omitted) is the Reniff, because it was ALSO misnumbered. Therefore, there's no green tint with the number 159 and two green tints with 139 on the back (one Ruth and one Reniff - pitching) There's also a misnumbered Reniff portrait (139). This gives you five cards total - four #139's (both Ruths and both misnumbered Reniffs) and just one #159 (Reniff portrait). No need to thank me. :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 3:31 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction the following second series cards have picture variations.  i have always assumed that there was the base card, and then the 2nd pose, usually a green tint, was the second card. do any of the following have 4 cards - i.e. 2 basic poses (regular and green) and two alternate poses (regular and green)? #129 Lee Walls - facing left or right#134 Billy Hoeft - facing straight or slightly left#147 Bill Kunkel - portrait or pitching#174 Carl Willey - with or without cap#176 Eddie Yost - portrait or batting#190 Wally Moon - portrait or batting finally, i saw something that says cards 458 and 462 have a variation where there is no logo on the cap.  can anyone verify this?  thanks Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB  ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 04:34:04 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 22:22:29 -0700 To: Andy Cook Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? From: John Stamper Hi Andy The 49 MP & Co set has two variations. Bob Lemon with and without Chicago on his Jersey. Ted Williams with first name on back spelled correctly and spelled "Theorore" John Stamper > On Jul 14, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > 1949 MP&Co Bob Lemon -- I know there's a variation, but I can't remember what and my SCD is too old to show it. Help! > Thanks, > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:14:12 -0400 Subject: If your T206 Have list is relatively small.... From: "Chuck Paris - home" .. and a particular card has no sentimental value, could you check the backs against my list?? http://klsdad.com/t206.html I should be able to replace any card you send me with another T206 (see link to tradeables) and will add interest for your effort! ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:48:17 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: "Thomas W. Billing" There are at least two other team cards (I think-the Braves for sure) without photo insets as that was just the Angels. The =E2=9Cgreenie=E2=9Dis assumed to be the grayer, less-focused version of them. I would like to find Tom=E2=99s logic on the Angels =E2=9Cgreenie=E2=9D that says the inset photos is that version. Logic (to me) says player changes might result in adding the insets. I hope Tom can weigh in on this as the future of the universe depends on it. Tom Billing > On Jul 15, 2017, at 12:34 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Plus the team card is kind of a pose variation because one type has insetphotos in the top corners, and the other doesn't. > I'm in bed so I didn't look the number up, but check the photos on Tom's page and you'll see. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:12 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> Gary, >> Each card with a pose variation has just two versions, not four. One of the poses is the green tint and the other is the sharper, clearer (corrected) pose. The only exception (which you omitted) is the Reniff, because itwas ALSO misnumbered. Therefore, there's no green tint with the number 159and two green tints with 139 on the back (one Ruth and one Reniff - pitching) There's also a misnumbered Reniff portrait (139). This gives you five cards total - four #139's (both Ruths and both misnumbered Reniffs) and justone #159 (Reniff portrait). No need to thank me. :-) >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 3:31 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; >> Cc: >> Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green ti nts/variations - correction >> the following second series cards have picture variations. i have always assumed that there was the base card, and then the 2nd pose, usually a green tint, was the second card. >> do any of the following have 4 cards - i.e. 2 basic poses (regular and green) and two alternate poses (regular and green)? >> #129 Lee Walls - facing left or right >> #134 Billy Hoeft - facing straight or slightly left >> #147 Bill Kunkel - portrait or pitching >> #174 Carl Willey - with or without cap >> #176 Eddie Yost - portrait or batting >> #190 Wally Moon - portrait or batting >> finally, i saw something that says cards 458 and 462 have a variation where there is no logo on the cap. can anyone verify this? >> thanks >> Gary Mandell >> 4243 North Claremont Avenue >> Chicago, IL 60618-2905 >> Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: 15 Jul 2017 14:05:43 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 10:08:07 -0400 To: Tom Housely Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: "Thomas W. Billing" Thanks for saving the universe! I KNEW you would have a great logical reason although option C) is a little unlikely. Tom Billing > On Jul 15, 2017, at 10:05 AM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Well, since the fate of the universe depends on it, here is my reasoning: > All of the green tints have two distinct characteristics: 1) The wood grain border is lighter than than non-green versions, and 2) the pictures are "muddier" - less focused than the non-green versions. If you look at the side-by-side versions of the Angels team, you'll see that the one with the insets has the lighter wood grain border & the picture isn't nearly as crisply focused as the other version & thus meets the criteria that all of the other greenies have. > Why one version has inset photos & one doesn't is a mystery to me. There's probably a real explanation, but my guesses are that a) when it came timeto correct the greenies, Topps thought the insets looked stupid; b) there was a player transaction - but the guys in the insert were no longer on theteam; c) Sy Berger was on drugs for the green tint version & sobered up for the correction > I don't claim to be the go-to expert on the greenies; I'm just a guy who collected them, scanned them & put them up on-line so my fellow OBC variation-hunters would have a handy guide. > Tom H. ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:12:13 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: Doug Smith Hmmmm...with facial recognition software we should be able to resolve option B ================= Date: 15 Jul 2017 14:13:58 +0000 To: Subject: Re: 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 10:58:27 -0400 To: cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some references please From: Mike Glasser I just purchased 2 lots from him and have nothing bad to say. He did what he said he would. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 5:50 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some references please Hello OBC, I was recently contacted by a Mark Zimmerman who said he has made trades/sales to several OBCers over the years. Could any of you please provide references for Mark if you've dealt with him before? Thanks a lot, Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 15:11:05 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2nd try--didn't get through the first time, I don't think. Cheap From: Saw this on Ebay--I have all of them, so I passed. Not a bad price, even in that shape-- http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-WHEATIES-CEREAL-BOX-CUTOUTS-DIZZY-DEAN-BOB-JOHNSON-ERNIE-LOMBARDI-/362035976471?hash=item544b069917:g:XLAAAOSwKoRZZXXf PS, if you get this, can someone let me know--it means my subscription to the Ramblings server is kaflooey. If you don't get this, then you don't need to ping me. ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:37:18 -0400 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some references please From: "Thomas W. Billing" Glad to hear you had no problems. We never like those. This MAY not be toppsaholic as I thought he was MATT Zimmerman. If the cards come from Plymouth, MA, you will know it was him. Tom Billing > On Jul 15, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I just purchased 2 lots from him and have nothing bad to say. He did what he said he would. > Mike > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: obc-ramblings > > Sent: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 5:50 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some references please > Hello OBC, > I was recently contacted by a Mark Zimmerman who said he has made trades/sales to several OBCers over the years. Could any of you please provide references for Mark if you've dealt with him before? > Thanks a lot, > Andy Huntoon > OBC Rules!!! ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 15:52:50 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver wire. Some 1977 Hostess Twinkies From: Picked up another small group of 1977 Hostess Twinkies and have a few dupes. As usual, please save me some time by including your mailing address in your request. All of these are well stained. 25 Luzinski have two, neither is a full panel 26 Randy Jones full panel 28 John Hiller full panel, less stained than the others 29 Murcer not full panel ================= Date: 15 Jul 2017 16:26:05 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:35:05 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: For those looking for Tipton shaped Wheaties from the 1930s From: Came across these http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-WHEATIES-CEREAL-BOX-CUTOUTS-DIZZY-DEAN-BOB-JOHNSON-ERNIE-LOMBARDI-/362035976471?hash=item544b069917:g:XLAAAOSwKoRZZXXf Definitely OBC worthy. I'd have snatched them up if I needed any of them, but since I don't, I passed. For anyone who wants to pick up some of the Wheaties cards from the 30's, $2.50 each, including shipping. isn't bad. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 02:34:05 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, directorth@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations - correction From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello Tom and friends, I was about ready to tell you that I was going to strangle you when I see you in Chicago BUT fortunately I had one of these black ON TOP variations in with my dupes. I had been DONE with this torturous set for some time and was not looking forward to looking for some obscure addition that I did not know existed. Now I would like to point out that previous to this email I determinedthe different checklist variation by the trademark on the back of the card. The card with a comma stretches the trademark beyond the card number on the bottom of the card. The card w/o comma has the trademark stop just under the 2 of (192) - so there are 2 distinct ways of determining if you have these variations. So Gary - Good Luck with this insane journey - plenty of us knuckleheads including myself have submitted to the allure. See you in Chicago. BE WELL!!! REGARDS -------------------------------- MARK > On July 15, 2017 at 10:13 AM "directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Gary, > When you make up your master wantlist for the greenies, don't forget that #192 (Checklist) has THREE distinct versions, not just 2: > 1) Version with a comma after "Checklist" at #192 on the card; > 2) Version with no comma & black drop shadow at top left BEHIND the white, > 3) Version with no comma & black drop shadow ON TOP OF the white. > Here's the direct link to those three from my '62 Greenie project on Flickr: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/obctom/32989843093/in/dateposted-public/ > Tom H. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:39:05 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley From: Steve Rittenberg I think many of us are grateful for the page that Tom Housley built with pictures of the green tints and corresponding non-green tint Is there a similar page for 1968 Milton Bradley? I think I might have some but learn I don't. I'd love to search for these, for myself (just Red Sox) and others, but without a definitive picture, I don't know how to do that effectively. I've read the posts about how to tell them apart. Brighter backs, hatched fronts. And so on. But pictures are needed. If people have the 1968 MB cards, I will collect scans of them and then figure out how to make a page. Probably copy someone else's Thanks for any help you can offer. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:57:39 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: The Little Perfessor's jacket From: Matthew Glidden What should I see yesterday at a nearby estate sale but the attached photo. How much would you pay for Dom Dimaggio's blazer? Spike[image: fullsizeoutput_2f77.jpeg] ================= To: Steve Rittenberg Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:00:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:00:19 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2 more Twinkies on the waiver wire From: Found 2 more dupes--1975 Twinkies. Full panels, with stains. Paul Blair (12) and Jorge Orta (122). Who wants them? ================= Date: 16 Jul 2017 17:28:41 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 16 Jul 2017 17:30:39 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the OBC-Ramblings File : /1968 Milton Bradley uncut sheet card layout FOR UPLOAD.doc Uploaded by : tomhousley_2000 Description : A text-version of what an uncut sheet of the Milton Bradley Win-A-Card cards would look like, ("68 baseball, '67 football & Hot Rod), along with a checklist of the baseball & football cards in numerical order. Credit to Dr. Carlton Miller for a pic of a virtual uncut sheet, from which I created this table. You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/files/1968%20Milton%20Bradley%20uncut%20sheet%20card%20layout%20FOR%20UPLOAD.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398 tomhousley_2000 ================= Date: 16 Jul 2017 18:33:29 +0000 To: Subject: 1956 Topps Tipton Bonanza From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:33:58 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley From: "Sal Domino" Only problem is that when you scan the backs, a lot of them wind up lookinglike MB=E2=99s even if they aren=E2=99t. You really need to carry one around with you and you can pretty much see right off if it is or not. I will have one poking out of my pocket at the National. Look on ebay and youwill see what I mean when you search 1968. For those that need it, here isthe MB checklist attached. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 9:39 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley I think many of us are grateful for the page that Tom Housley built with pictures of the green tints and corresponding non-green tint Is there a similar page for 1968 Milton Bradley? I think I might have some but learn I don't. I'd love to search for these, for myself (just Red Sox) and others, but without a definitive picture, I don't know how to do that effectively. I've read the posts about how to tell them apart. Brighter backs, hatched fronts. And so on. But pictures are needed. If people have the 1968 MB cards, I will collect scans of them and then figure out how to make a page. Probably copy someone else's Thanks for any help you can offer. ================= To: , Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:41:30 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley [1 Attachment] From: "Sal Domino" Tom, you are spot on. Those WS and checklists are real rough to tell. The hot rods are the easiest, totally different color. The football is pretty easy also. Taylor saw em the best last year, he saw a row of 68s and the edges were yellow (Frenches- I LOVE the analogy and it perfectly fits). Pulled out a STACK of em (and was kind enough to send me a few). I already have the Ryan, I need the Namath. Hot rods are way tougher to find than any of the Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 1:29 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Jay's link is a great one. Dr. Carlton Miller did a fine job with the article; the only drawback is the size of the virtual uncut sheet, which makes it a little tough to tell who's who. Soooo, being the list-maker that I am, I zoomed in on it as much as I could& created a text version of the uncut sheet in a table along with a checklist of the baseball & football cards (I don't care about the Hot Rod cards,but in case anyone does, I understand the Hot Rod cards included with the Milton Bradley come with the yellow backs, while the regular Hot Rods - I think they came out in 1965? come with an orange back, so pretty easy to tell what you're looking at from the back). I'm going attach the .doc file, but I'll also upload it to the Files section of the Ramblings Yahoo Groups page. The 2 ways to be sure you have a MB card are 1) if the card is mis-cut top-to-bottom, there may be a white st rip, which is either the top or bottom of a '67 FB card or a Hot Rod card. BUT - if the baseball card is on the toprow, you might see a strip of white that is NOT a '67 FB or Hot Rod; 2) The backs are a very bright yellow. The best way to tell is to look at a stack of mixed Topps & MB, & the card back differences are very obvious - thinkFrench's mustard yellow vs. Guldens mustard for the Topps! Same for the FBcards, which, if mis-cut, will also show a '68 Topps baseball burlap border strip on either to or bottom.. The only card I can't be precise about on the uncut sheet is the Marichal checklist. Both the wide mesh and fine mesh versions are included in the MB set & I'm not sure where each one is on the uncut sheet. The hardest cards to tell by looking at the backs are the checklists, the league leader cards, the World Series cards & the rookie cards - the amount of yellow is so sma ll it's very difficult to tell the difference. Dr. Miller sold a bunch of MB to Guru & exchanged e-mails with him too, andhe put together an offer of a good starter set for me - but the price was still too rich for my blood. Jimi sold me a few at Strongsville for a good price. If only Nolan Ryan & Joe Namath didn't have great careers, the MB set wouldbe pretty affordable :-) ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:35:51 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The Little Perfessor's jacket From: "Sal Domino" Depends on the size ;-)=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 9:58 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Little Perfessor's jacket What should I see yesterday at a nearby estate sale but the attached photo.How much would you pay for Dom Dimaggio's blazer? ================= To: Sal Domino Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:29:05 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley [2 Attachments] From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:16:09 -0400 To: Tradingbases@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, Subject: 1980 wacky pack cards From: Anthony Have a few and lmk if anyone collects. Send a list Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "OBC Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:48:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley From: Taylor Schock First, re the National. I have my handshakes 'done' (basically), so if you are going, and you currently had a MB wantlist when I put your handshake together, chances are very high that you will be "Bradleyed". I will be authenticating at the National, for those who care. LOL Not much else to say on these that hasn't been said. But like the '62 greenies, sometimes they are hard to tell by themselves, unless they are poorly centered on the front. However after you've been chasing these for a while,you can pick them out pretty easily without a comparison (except for RC or'special' cards that have thinner borders). They ARE easy to tell in a stack of '68s. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 2:41 PM To: directorth@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley Tom, you are spot on. Those WS and checklists are real rough to tell. The hot rods are the easiest, totally different color. The football is pretty easy also. Taylor saw em the best last year, he saw a row of 68s and the edges were yellow (Frenches- I LOVE the analogy and it perfectly fits). Pulled out a STACK of em (and was kind enough to send me a few). I already have the Ryan, I need the Namath. Hot rods are way tougher to find than any of the Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 1:29 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Web page for 1968 Milton Bradley [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Jay's link is a great one. Dr. Carlton Miller did a fine job with the article; the only drawback is the size of the virtual uncut sheet, which makes it a little tough to tell who's who. Soooo, being the list-maker that I am, I zoomed in on it as much as I could& created a text version of the uncut sheet in a table along with a checklist of the baseball & football cards (I don't care about the Hot Rod cards,but in case anyone does, I understand the Hot Rod cards included with the Milton Bradley come with the yellow backs, while the regular Hot Rods - I think they came out in 1965? come with an orange back, so pretty easy to tell what you're looking at from the back). I'm going attach the .doc file, but I'll also upload it to the Files section of the Ramblings Yahoo Groups page. The 2 ways to be sure you have a MB card are 1) if the card is mis-cut top-to-bottom, there may be a white st rip, which is either the top or bottom of a '67 FB card or a Hot Rod card. BUT - if the baseball card is on the toprow, you might see a strip of white that is NOT a '67 FB or Hot Rod; 2) The backs are a very bright yellow. The best way to tell is to look at a stack of mixed Topps & MB, & the card back differences are very obvious - thinkFrench's mustard yellow vs. Guldens mustard for the Topps! Same for the FBcards, which, if mis-cut, will also show a '68 Topps baseball burlap border strip on either to or bottom.. The only card I can't be precise about on the uncut sheet is the Marichal checklist. Both the wide mesh and fine mesh versions are included in the MB set & I'm not sure where each one is on the uncut sheet. The hardest cards to tell by looking at the backs are the checklists, the league leader cards, the World Series cards & the rookie cards - the amount of yellow is so sma ll it's very difficult to tell the difference. Dr. Miller sold a bunch of MB to Guru & exchanged e-mails with him too, andhe put together an offer of a good starter set for me - but the price was still too rich for my blood. Jimi sold me a few at Strongsville for a good price. If only Nolan Ryan & Joe Namath didn't have great careers, the MB set wouldbe pretty affordable :-) ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 13:38:46 -0700 To: james_moleta@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps Tipton Bonanza From: Rick Those are tiptons!! I'll have to admit I would enjoy soaking them to get them out of the scrap book. The price is way out of line for what I would paytho. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 16, 2017, at 11:33 AM, james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'm not gonna bite at the BIN, but it's fun to look at these "Sewer Find"caliber cards. Packed with HOFers too! Mantle, Williams, Mays, Koufax, Snider, Campy, Yogi, etc. Maybe one of us will get the guy on an OBO? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Topps-Baseball-150-cards-set-lot-Mickey-Mantle-135-SGC-High-s-HOF-/262949021894?epid85023023&hashitem3d38fba8c6:g= ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:08:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Nationals scoop From: Anthony Hello all Sad I will not be their but went to the show in the hood today and discovered uncle Dick as about 80% of the 57 hoops if anyone is interested. Also Chaney has a bunch of tobacco cloth "cards" at $20 each. Not sure whatthey are but you can always ask him. If anyone wants to shop for me ....just let me know and I can give you a small Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:51:45 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Show And Tell From: ShoelessWes I may bring a binder or two for show n tell at the swap. Just a side idea if anyone wants to show something cool. Wes Shepard ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:12:23 -0700 To: james_moleta@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps Tipton Bonanza From: Doug DeJong This one was listed some Months ago as a larger lot I think for quite a bitmore. He rejected my offer! Either he broke it up or someone else finally bought it and did. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 16, 2017, at 11:33 AM, james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'm not gonna bite at the BIN, but it's fun to look at these "Sewer Find"caliber cards. Packed with HOFers too! Mantle, Williams, Mays, Koufax, Snider, Campy, Yogi, etc. Maybe one of us will get the guy on an OBO? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Topps-Baseball-150-cards-set-lot-Mickey-Mantle-135-SGC-High-s-HOF-/262949021894?epid85023023&hashitem3d38fba8c6:g= ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Anthony Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:27:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nationals scoop From: Taylor Schock Did you ask Chandy if he was going to be at the National? If not, I will probably see him Friday and can confirm one way or the other. As far as I know, he got shut out. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 4:08 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nationals scoop Hello all Sad I will not be their but went to the show in the hood today and discovered uncle Dick as about 80% of the 57 hoops if anyone is interested. Also Chaney has a bunch of tobacco cloth "cards" at $20 each. Not sure whatthey are but you can always ask him. If anyone wants to shop for me ....just let me know and I can give you a small Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 16:37:06 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: 1956 Topps Tipton Bonanza From: Steve Rittenberg $400 seems high but I'd need to look at the list of cards to have a better understanding of the value. I am willing to split the lot to get what I need: Gray backs 1-100 and white backs 101-180. That means I don't need the Mantle. Please contact me directly if interested. Steve Rittenberg 1956 Topps Tipton Bonanza Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:33 am (PDT) . Posted by: I'm not gonna bite at the BIN, but it's fun to look at these "Sewer Find" caliber cards. Packed with HOFers too! Mantle, Williams, Mays, Koufax, Snider, Campy, Yogi, etc. Maybe one of us will get the guy on an OBO? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Topps-Baseball-150-cards-set-lot-Mickey-Mantle-135-SGC-High-s-HOF-/262949021894?epid=85023023&hash=item3d38fba8c6:g:u7sAAOSwHHFY-~It#viTabs_0 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-Topps-Baseball-150-cards-set-lot-Mickey-Mantle-135-SGC-High-s-HOF-/262949021894?epid=85023023&hash=item3d38fba8c6:g:u7sAAOSwHHFY-~It#viTabs_0 ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Len Medeiros Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:52:51 +0000 Subject: Rocky Colavito item pickup From: Taylor Schock I picked up this item in an online sports auction a few weeks back, for allyou Rocky fans. A little more than I would have liked to have paid (that probably goes without saying for most things), but it's something you don't see everyday and pre-dates his RC by 4 years. He is 3rd from the left in the back row. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:05:46 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1962 green tints/variations From: smartalecx@aol.com when i found an extra 1st series checklist, card #22 and 2nd series checklist, card #98, i had to look to see why i had these (since i thought i had finished the set so long ago). i dont think these were mentioned in the recent thread, so here it goes: Card # 22, #s 33-88 on back vs #s 121-176 on back Card # 98, as far as i can tell, like card #192, the drop shadow along the bottom of the front appears in front of the white vs behind the white. There may be some other difference that I can't remember It sucks getting old! Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:24:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1962 green tints/variations From: smartalecx@aol.com this might be nit-picking, but on # 192 (checklist 3), i have a no comma after checklist, black drop shadow above white on top left, but on the bottom right, one card has the black drop shadow above the white, and one has it behind, or at least next to the white. in addition, the copyright mark on one says "prtd. in u.s.a. " with the @ sign on to the grey edge vs one that says "printed in u.s.a" with the @ sign totally on the orange/brown/tan backround . also, dark vs light wood attached are some scans Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:59:26 -0400 Subject: 51 Bowman Whitey Ford - deal? From: "Matt Yudt" Hi all, This card is not from the lot I just mentioned on the National server. The flea market card guy I buy from a lot was touting it last night when I stopped in. Said he would go to $200 for it. I snapped a few photos and thought I'd share and see if anyone with deep pockets and a penchant for 51 Bowmans was interested.. (Same guy that had the Tip Top bread Yogi Berra's a few months ago a few of you got) From: Matt Yudt [mailto:mryudt@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 7:49 PM To: mryudt@gmail.com Subject: Bowman ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:05:03 -0400 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nationals scoop From: Anthony He is trying to get a table. Not sur but he may Sent from my iPad > On Jul 16, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Taylor Schock wrote: > Did you ask Chandy if he was going to be at the National? If not, I will probably see him Friday and can confirm one way or the other. As far as I know, he got shut out. > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 4:08 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nationals scoop > Hello all > Sad I will not be their but went to the show in the hood today and discovered uncle Dick as about 80% of the 57 hoops if anyone is interested. > Also Chaney has a bunch of tobacco cloth "cards" at $20 each. Not sure what they are but you can always ask him. > If anyone wants to shop for me ....just let me know and I can give you a small > Anthony > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:18:53 -0400 To: rdn56@nc.rr.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] For those looking for Tipton shaped Wheaties From: mikesportsfan@aol.com There is a single bid on this already. Is it an OBCer? If not, I will bidon this lot. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: rdn56@nc.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 6:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] For those looking for Tipton shaped Wheaties from the Came across these http://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-WHEATIES-CEREAL-BOX-CUTOUTS-DIZZY-DEAN-BOB-JOHNSON-ERNIE-LOMBARDI-/362035976471?hashitem544b069917:= Definitely OBC worthy. I'd have snatched them up if I needed any of them, but since I don't, I passed. For anyone who wants to pick up some of the Wheaties cards from the 30's, $2.50 each, including shipping. isn't bad. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:21:02 -0400 To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com, typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I thought the MP&Co cards also had the text on different lines, different color ink and essentially it seems like there are an almost infinite number of backs for these issues. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Andy Cook Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 1:23 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? Hi Andy The 49 MP & Co set has two variations. Bob Lemon with and without Chicago on his Jersey. Ted Williams with first name on back spelled correctly and spelled "Theorore" John Stamper On Jul 14, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] 1949 MP&Co Bob Lemon -- I know there's a variation, but I can't remember what and my SCD is too old to show it. Help! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:26:14 -0700 To: Ramblings Subject: MUNGO! From: Peter Iversen Sunday June 25th was the final day of the Hollywood Fringe Festival (HFF) and the completion of another step that will lead to the culmination of a story I started writing as a thank you to OBC back in 1997. Between June 3rd and the 25th we completed six performances of MUNGO! at The Complex Theater in Hollywood. Not long after our second performance we had sold out the house for the remaining four shows. The festival was a success in every way we could have imagined including an invitation to come back to the Complex Theater for two more weekends in the spring of 2018, when our baseball novel, that features Van Lingle Mungo, DIAMOND STARS, is If you'd like to read more about our experience at the Hollywood Fringe Festival you can check out my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Peter-Reyna/100016492896121 There is also information and reviews on our Hollywood Fringe Festival page for MUNGO!: http://www.hollywoodfringe.org/projects/3617 This all started thanks to OBC - and the relationships I have been fortunate enough to build here over the years... Thanks to you all! ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:27:02 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Teamwork at National From: Wayne Delia National's coming up fast and I'm getting excited. Did I tell you about the biggest bargain I got last year at Atlantic City? Yes, about a dozen times already. But what was terrific about that was that I had just met Joel Freedman maybe fifteen minutes earlier, and somehow he remembered I collected skeds, and arranged not only to find me a great deal on them but also somehow managed to find me in the huge crowd to get me over to that dealer's table. There were a tremendous number of tables, and I was only at the show one day (Saturday), so I could use all the help I could get. We're smart people, we can do the same thing this year too. What I'd like to see is everybody who's going, send Sal Domino one short sentence about what your highest priority is (for his spreadsheet), so if some of the other guys find a great bargain on what you're looking for like Joel did for me last year, we can mobilize and optimize our time at the show. For example, my highest priority would be "Late 50's and early 60's OBC commons, and skeds." I'll be pushing a bunch of you out of the way at Mike McCann's pig trough, but if you overhear a dealer saying he wants to unload some cheap, or see large stacks of 50's and 60's commons in G/VG, drop me a text at the show with the location. I'd be happy to do the same for anyone One more thing - some of us are actually getting a bit older (although we don't look like it), and people like me have parted company with some of the better brain cells along the way. So could we invest in some cheap-o name tags for the swap meet? If I forget your name, it's not for lack of caring but lack of memory. I could bring a roll of "Hello, My Name Is..." stickers and a magic marker. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:30:26 -0700 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? From: John Stamper The 1949 MP Co only have the two variations that I'm aware of. The 1943 are numerous with different ink colors, position, no position, which way the backs are oriented and on and on. George did a great job listingthe variations in his book. John Stamper > On Jul 16, 2017, at 5:21 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I thought the MP&Co cards also had the text on different lines, differentcolor ink and essentially it seems like there are an almost infinite number of backs for these issues. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Andy Cook > Cc: obc-ramblings > Sent: Sat, Jul 15, 2017 1:23 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's the variation? > Hi Andy > The 49 MP & Co set has two variations. > Bob Lemon with and without Chicago on his Jersey. > Ted Williams with first name on back spelled correctly and spelled "Theorore" > John Stamper > On Jul 14, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > 1949 MP&Co Bob Lemon -- I know there's a variation, but I can't remember what and my SCD is too old to show it. Help! > Thanks, > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:38:07 -0400 To: marcpeter53@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] MUNGO! From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Peter Iversen marcpeter53@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 8:26 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] MUNGO! Sunday June 25th was the final day of the Hollywood FringeFestival (HFF) and the completion of another step that will lead to the culmination of a story I started writingas a thank you to OBC back in 1997. Between June 3rd and the 25th we completed six performances ofMUNGO! at TheComplex Theater in Hollywood.Not long after our second performance we had sold out the house for theremaining four shows. The festival was a success in every way we could have imaginedincluding an invitation to come back to the Complex Theater for two moreweekends in the spring of 2018, when our baseball novel, that features VanLingle Mungo, DIAMOND STARS, is published. If you'd like to read more about our experience at theHollywood Fringe Festival you can check out my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Peter-Reyna/100016492896121 There is also information and reviews on our HollywoodFringe Festival page for http://www.hollywoodfringe.org/projects/3617 This all started thanks to OBC - and the relationships Ihave been fortunateenough to build here over the years... Thanks to you all! ================= Date: 17 Jul 2017 01:07:22 +0000 To: Subject: I understand the Greenie/MB fascination a little better now.... From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:44:11 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Teamwork at National From: ShoelessWes I will largely be trying for my annoyingly short 1959, 1960 Topps baseball sets. I'm also big on bulk lots. Though sometimes pricey, per se, drop me a line and see about halvsies. Wes Shepard > On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > National's coming up fast and I'm getting excited. Did I tell you about the biggest bargain I got last year at Atlantic City? Yes, about a dozen times already. But what was terrific about that was that I had just met Joel Freedman maybe fifteen minutes earlier, and somehow he remembered I collected skeds, and arranged not only to find me a great deal on them but also somehow managed to find me in the huge crowd to get me over to that dealer's table. There were a tremendous number of tables, and I was only at the show one day (Saturday), so I could use all the help I could get. > We're smart people, we can do the same thing this year too. What I'd liketo see is everybody who's going, send Sal Domino one short sentence about what your highest priority is (for his spreadsheet), so if some of the other guys find a great bargain on what you're looking for like Joel did for melast year, we can mobilize and optimize our time at the show. For example,my highest priority would be "Late 50's and early 60's OBC commons, and skeds." I'll be pushing a bunch of you out of the way at Mike McCann's pig trough, but if you overhear a dealer saying he wants to unload some cheap, orsee large stacks of 50's and 60's commons in G/VG, drop me a text at the show with the location. I'd be happy to do the same for anyone else. > One more thing - some of us are actually getting a bit older (although wedon't look like it), and people like me have parted company with some of the better brain cells along the way. So could we invest in some cheap-o name tags for the swap meet? If I forget your name, it's not for lack of caring but lack of memory. I could bring a roll of "Hello, My Name Is..." stickers and a magic marker. > Best, > WMD > Virus-free. www.avast.com ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:22:00 -0400 To: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Teamwork at National From: Yahoo I though you were going to ask for scooters for the old guys =82. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 16, 2017, at 20:27, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > National's coming up fast and I'm getting excited. Did I tell you about the biggest bargain I got last year at Atlantic City? Yes, about a dozen times already. But what was terrific about that was that I had just met Joel Freedman maybe fifteen minutes earlier, and somehow he remembered I collected skeds, and arranged not only to find me a great deal on them but also somehow managed to find me in the huge crowd to get me over to that dealer's table. There were a tremendous number of tables, and I was only at the show one day (Saturday), so I could use all the help I could get. > We're smart people, we can do the same thing this year too. What I'd liketo see is everybody who's going, send Sal Domino one short sentence about what your highest priority is (for his spreadsheet), so if some of the other guys find a great bargain on what you're looking for like Joel did for melast year, we can mobilize and optimize our time at the show. For example,my highest priority would be "Late 50's and early 60's OBC commons, and skeds." I'll be pushing a bunch of you out of the way at Mike McCann's pig trough, but if you overhear a dealer saying he wants to unload some cheap, orsee large stacks of 50's and 60's commons in G/VG, drop me a text at the show with the location. I'd be happy to do the same for anyone else. > One more thing - some of us are actually getting a bit older (although wedon't look like it), and people like me have parted company with some of the better brain cells along the way. So could we invest in some cheap-o name tags for the swap meet? If I forget your name, it's not for lack of caring but lack of memory. I could bring a roll of "Hello, My Name Is..." stickers and a magic marker. > Best, > WMD > Virus-free. www.avast.com ================= To: , Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 02:28:03 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I understand the Greenie/MB fascination a little better now.... From: "Sal Domino" LOL I=E2=99ll start the Cleveland list as soon as I get home from Chicago! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of b_betza@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 9:07 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I understand the Greenie/MB fascination a little better So Larry Tipton sends me a group of Pirate team issue cards-- I had a few previously but had given up identifying the year(s) since the '67-68-69 cards all looked almost exactly the same online--- so I pulled the older ones out and sorted along with Guru's fine contribution. Suddenly I notice one signature that seems thicker--the card does too!! Those 5 go in one pile-- wait-- 3 are very thin with a "tall signature"-- sure enough the last 10 all feel and look the same (but different from the other 2!!) A quick note that I had single cards for guys who were only issued in one year--- I had done it!! I am now posting my '67, '68 and '69 have lists :) Such fun with cardboard (or glossy paper stock!!) Brian Betza (jealously reading National posts-- I will be in Cleveland if it is not too early for your list Sal :)) ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 02:32:00 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Teamwork at National From: "Sal Domino" I=E2=99ll take one to use on the badge shuttle Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 1:22 AM To: Wayne Delia Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Teamwork at National I though you were going to ask for scooters for the old guys =82. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2017, at 20:27, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: National's coming up fast and I'm getting excited. Did I tell you about thebiggest bargain I got last year at Atlantic City? Yes, about a dozen timesalready. But what was terrific about that was that I had just met Joel Freedman maybe fifteen minutes earlier, and somehow he remembered I collected skeds, and arranged not only to find me a great deal on them but also somehow managed to find me in the huge crowd to get me over to that dealer's table. There were a tremendous number of tables, and I was only at the show one day (Saturday), so I could use all the help I could get. We're smart people, we can do the same thing this year too. What I'd like to see is everybody who's going, send Sal Domino one short sentence about what your highest priority is (for his spreadsheet), so if some of the other guys find a great bargain on what you're looking for like Joel did for me last year, we can mobilize and optimize our time at the show. For example, my highest priority would be "Late 50's and early 60's OBC commons, and skeds." I'll be pushing a bunch of you out of the way at Mike McCann's pig trough, but if you overhear a dealer saying he wants to unload some cheap, or see large stacks of 50's and 60's commons in G/VG, drop me a text at the show with the location. I'd be happy to do the same for anyone else. One more thing - some of us are actually getting a bit older (although we don't look like it), and people like me have parted company with some of thebetter brain cells along the way. So could we invest in some cheap-o name tags for the swap meet? If I forget your name, it's not for lack of caring but lack of memory. I could bring a roll of "Hello, My Name Is..." stickersand a magic marker. Virus-free. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 04:25:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Teamwork at National From: Aaron Shirley I'm still trying to narrow my priorities down. I guess whichever one(s) arethe best deal is what I will open my wallet for: 1. a big stack of Hostess (would like to finish 77 but a big stack of any years would be just fine) 2. 1974 OPC (just getting started) 3. 1970 & 1971 Topps Supers 4. St. Louis vintage hits, especially non-Topps 5. Reggie rookie 6. any other Topps "priority hits" 7. (really any way I can cheaply get my Topps run under 3000 to go) In the non-sport arena... 1. 1977 Star Wars orange and green series 2. Dukes of Hazzard lots Aaron Shirley From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 8:44 PM To: Wayne Delia Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Teamwork at National I will largely be trying for my annoyingly short 1959, 1960 Topps baseball sets. I'm also big on bulk lots. Though sometimes pricey, per se, drop me a line and see about halvsies. Wes Shepard On Jul 16, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > National's coming up fast and I'm getting excited. Did I tell you about thebiggest bargain I got last year at Atlantic City? Yes, about a dozen timesalready. But what was terrific about that was that I had just met Joel Freedman maybe fifteen minutes earlier, and somehow he remembered I collected skeds, and arranged not only to find me a great deal on them but also somehow managed to find me in the huge crowd to get me over to that dealer's table. There were a tremendous number of tables, and I was only at the show one day (Saturday), so I could use all the help I could get. We're smart people, we can do the same thing this year too. What I'd like to see is everybody who's going, send Sal Domino one short sentence about what your highest priority is (for his spreadsheet), so if some of the other guys find a great bargain on what you're looking for like Joel did for me last year, we can mobilize and optimize our time at the show. For example, my highest priority would be "Late 50's and early 60's OBC commons, and skeds." I'll be pushing a bunch of you out of the way at Mike McCann's pig trough, but if you overhear a dealer saying he wants to unload some cheap, or see large stacks of 50's and 60's commons in G/VG, drop me a text at the show with the location. I'd be happy to do the same for anyone else. One more thing - some of us are actually getting a bit older (although we don't look like it), and people like me have parted company with some of thebetter brain cells along the way. So could we invest in some cheap-o name tags for the swap meet? If I forget your name, it's not for lack of caring but lack of memory. I could bring a roll of "Hello, My Name Is..." stickersand a magic marker. [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif] Subject: Re: Teamwork at National From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 07:55:10 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re Teamwork at the National From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Tom has put together a =E2=9Cgroup text=E2=9D of those attending the National. I think this will be a great tool for us while on the Convention floor. I would assume Tom will send out a test message just before the show, and we can just reply to that text message. Bring those name tag stickers Wayne, I think its a good idea, and will especially help those attending for the first time. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 07:00:58 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1962 green tints/variations From: Nate Mack Just noticed, the 192 in the circle on the back of the card is in 2 different positions in those 2 cards... another variation? Nate Mack Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:02:28 +0000 (UTC) To: obc Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re Teamwork at the National From: Glenn Codere Methinks Mr Tipton may need several stickers.... ...among others On Mon Jul 17 2017 12:55:16 GMT+0100 (GMT Standard Time), LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Tom has put together a =E2=9Cgroup text=E2=9D of those attending the National. I think this will be a great tool for us while on the Convention floor. I would assume Tom will send out a test message just before the show, and we can just reply to that text message. Bring those name tag stickers Wayne, I think its a good idea, and will especially help those attending for the first time. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:09:14 +0000 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Teamwork at National From: Matthew Glidden Top priorities: - All 1930s baseball (Goudey / National Chicle / WWG / DeLong / etc.) -- already finished 33G & 34G - 1936 Goudey Front/Back Master Set - Most 1930s non-sport Goudey / National Chicle / WWG - #5 type collection Second priority: - 1939-40 Play Ball wantlists - 1961-62-63-70-71 Fleer wantlists - Somehow avoid splitting a modern A&G box with Kent I've already failed at the last one a few times. :-) On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 7:31 AM directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > My priorities are: > 1) Milton Bradley hits - both '68 baseball & '67 football > 2) Finish my '56 & '60 football. Down to just 3 for '56 & 4 for '60. > Should be easy. > 3) Reasonably priced baseball high numbers - 1953, 1966 & 1967 > 4) Cheap football lots - '54 Bowman, '57 Topps > And 5) Not to get strangled by Mark Talbot for pointing out the damn '62 > checklist variation :-) > I have all of your numbers in a Group Contact on my phone, so if I spy > something great, be prepared to get a group text, even if it's not > something you collect. > Tom H. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:00:35 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Guru the "Card Flipper" From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Some interesting discussion over on Net54 about =E2=9CCard Flippers=E2=9D. Then I thought about the statement that appears when you visit the OBC Remember when flipping and trying for leaners was the way you collected cards? Flipping has taken on a whole new meaning LOL! My first experience with flipping a card (with the intention of making a profit) was when I flipped that 1952 Topps grey back card. Purchased for $5, sold on eBay for $300. With grading costs, eBay and Pay Pal fees, I probably made $225 or so. I have flipped cards on the Dealer Scum server, but I offered those up at what I paid or close to it. I haven=E2=99t flipped cards on the Dealer Scum server in awhile as these pick-ups now end up in the Wauctions. How long will the Wauctions continue is another good question, but I think Wauction #12 might be it. A few months ago (in an auction) I purchased a lot of six T206 cards that have partial names on the top and bottom of the cards. I think these =E2=9Cmis-cuts=E2=9D are popular cards with T206 collectors. For the first time I have consigned to an Auction, so I guess we will see how popular they are LOL! I won the six cards for the opening bid of $100, and with the buyers premium included I paid $112.50. It=E2=99s hard to figure out the shipping charge since I won a few other items (including a couple of vintage wax boxes). I=E2=99ll say I=E2=99m into these six T206 cards for $114 or $19 each. Cards are in pretty nice G-VG shape too, one has a back stamp as well. I would think that T206 collectors would pay $15 each for these cards, evenwithout the names on the top and bottom. I consigned to Sterling Sports Auctions. The owner Lee, is a friend of OBC,and even gave OBC some props in one of his Auctions. Most auctions (exceptGurus Wauctions) charge not only a buyers premium, but also a sellers premium. I learned that the sellers premium is negotiable, but (even before negotiations) Lee waived the sellers premium for me since I am a first timer. Lee said he would probably list these cards in (3) two card lots, and will be included in his Auction #64 which opens Thursday. Auction #64 closes twoweeks later (after the National) on Thursday August 3. I=E2=99m not posting to hype my items, just thought you guys might be interested in how I do. At this point I think I would be happy to break even LOL, but I also hope to learn a little bit about this part of our hobby. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:07:45 +0000 (UTC) To: LAWRENCE TIPTON , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru the "Card Flipper" From: Glenn Codere Good luck, "Flipper"! Hope you make enough to keep you in fish for a week or Another name sticker required! On Mon Jul 17 2017 14:00:42 GMT+0100 (GMT Standard Time), LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Some interesting discussion over on Net54 about =E2=9CCard Flippers=E2=9D. Then I thought about the statement that appears when you visit the OBC Remember when flipping and trying for leaners was the way you collected cards? Flipping has taken on a whole new meaning LOL! My first experience with flipping a card (with the intention of making a profit) was when I flipped that 1952 Topps grey back card. Purchased for $5, sold on eBay for $300. With grading costs, eBay and Pay Pal fees, I probably made $225 or so. I have flipped cards on the Dealer Scum server, but I offered those up at what I paid or close to it. I haven=E2=99t flipped cards on the Dealer Scum server in awhile as these pick-ups now end up in the Wauctions. How long will the Wauctions continue is another good question, but I think Wauction #12 might be it. A few months ago (in an auction) I purchased a lot of six T206 cards that have partial names on the top and bottom of the cards. I think these =E2=9Cmis-cuts=E2=9D are popular cards with T206 collectors. For the first time I have consigned to an Auction, so I guess we will see how popular they are LOL! I won the six cards for the opening bid of $100, and with the buyers premium included I paid $112.50. It=E2=99s hard to figure out the shipping charge since I won a few other items (including a couple of vintage wax boxes). I=E2=99ll say I=E2=99m into these six T206 cards for $114 or $19 each. Cards are in pretty nice G-VG shape too, one has a back stamp as well. I would think that T206 collectors would pay $15 each for these cards, evenwithout the names on the top and bottom. I consigned to Sterling Sports Auctions. The owner Lee, is a friend of OBC,and even gave OBC some props in one of his Auctions. Most auctions (exceptGurus Wauctions) charge not only a buyers premium, but also a sellers premium. I learned that the sellers premium is negotiable, but (even before negotiations) Lee waived the sellers premium for me since I am a first timer. Lee said he would probably list these cards in (3) two card lots, and will be included in his Auction #64 which opens Thursday. Auction #64 closes twoweeks later (after the National) on Thursday August 3. I=E2=99m not posting to hype my items, just thought you guys might be interested in how I do. At this point I think I would be happy to break even LOL, but I also hope to learn a little bit about this part of our hobby. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:02:04 -0400 To: Nate Mack Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations From: ShoelessWes Sounds like a variation to me, or at least a printing error. I know most ofus use the term "variation" quite loosely, as do I. But right now, my binder page doesnt have room for another #192, so im gonna forget you mentioned it. Everybody, delete this thread, and dont let Tom hear about it!!! Wes Shepard > On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just noticed, the 192 in the circle on the back of the card is in 2 different positions in those 2 cards... another variation? > Thanks > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "'ShoelessWes'" , Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 07:32:18 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations From: "Grant Rainsley" Nope=E2=A6=E2=A6no way=E2=A6=E2=A6..no chance=E2=A6=E2=A6nada=E2=A6..I am NOT going to get the =E2=9962 binder out=E2=A6=E2=A6..zero chance of that happening=E2=A6=E2=A6.. I=E2=99ll be back in a minute=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: July 17, 2017 7:02 AM To: Nate Mack Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations Sounds like a variation to me, or at least a printing error. I know most ofus use the term "variation" quite loosely, as do I. But right now, my binder page doesnt have room for another #192, so im gonna forget you mentioned it. Everybody, delete this thread, and dont let Tom hear about it!!! Wes Shepard On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Just noticed, the 192 in the circle on the back of the card is in 2 different positions in those 2 cards... another variation? Nate Mack Sent from my iPad This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:56:50 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations From: Joel Freedman 22A Checklist Numbers 121-176 on back, yellow 22A Checklist Numbers 121-176 on back, green 22B Checklist Numbers 33-88 on back 98A Checklist Dark wood, boxes even with numbers 98B Checklist Dark wood, boxes even, bold numbers/names 98C Checklist Light wood, boxes are lower than numbers 192A Checklist 192 is Check List, 3 192B Checklist 192 is Check List 3 (no comma) 192C Checklist 177-264 VAR: Green tint On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:32 AM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Nope=E2=A6=E2=A6no way=E2=A6=E2=A6..no chance=E2=A6=E2=A6nada=E2=A6..I am NOT going to get the =E2=9962 binder > out=E2=A6=E2=A6..zero chance of that happening=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > I=E2=99ll be back in a minute=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@ > yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* July 17, 2017 7:02 AM > *To:* Nate Mack > *Cc:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations > Nate, > Sounds like a variation to me, or at least a printing error. I know most > of us use the term "variation" quite loosely, as do I. > But right now, my binder page doesnt have room for another #192, so im > gonna forget you mentioned it. > Everybody, delete this thread, and dont let Tom hear about it!!! > Wes Shepard > On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Just noticed, the 192 in the circle on the back of the card is in 2 > different positions in those 2 cards... another variation? > Thanks > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPad > > www.avg.com > > <#m_-196021909007336086_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:41:15 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 green tints/variations From: "Thomas W. Billing" This may have been answered but I am too lazy to read all the emails so I hope someone will clarify it. In the list here, #192 is listed three ways but my understanding is that the green tint IS the comma version and that there is no third version. Is there a version that has green instead of yellow as some do? Tom Billing > On Jul 17, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > 22A Checklist Numbers 121-176 on back, yellow > 22A Checklist Numbers 121-176 on back, green > 22B Checklist Numbers 33-88 on back > 98A Checklist Dark wood, boxes even with numbers > 98B Checklist Dark wood, boxes even, bold numbers/names > 98C Checklist Light wood, boxes are lower than numbers > 192A Checklist 192 is Check List, 3 > 192B Checklist 192 is Check List 3 (no comma) > 192C Checklist 177-264 VAR: Green tint > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:32 AM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > > Nope=E2=A6=E2=A6no way=E2=A6=E2=A6..no chance=E2=A6=E2=A6nada=E2=A6..I am NOT going to get the =E2=9962 binder out=E2=A6=E2=A6..zero chance of that happening=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > I=E2=99ll be back in a minute=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com > Sent: July 17, 2017 7:02 AM > To: Nate Mack > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroupscom > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 green tints/variations > Nate, > Sounds like a variation to me, or at least a printing error. I know most of us use the term "variation" quite loosely, as do I. > But right now, my binder page doesnt have room for another #192, so im gonna forget you mentioned it. > Everybody, delete this thread, and dont let Tom hear about it!!! > Wes Shepard > On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > Just noticed, the 192 in the circle on the back of the card is in 2 different positions in those 2 cards... another variation? > Thanks > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPad > Virus-free. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:15:21 -0600 (MDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1957 Topps.......a question....... From: GRANT RAINSLEY An Evilbay seller has a 1957 #8 Don "Ears" Mossi listed as a UER.......anyone know what the error is? I have looked and looked at mine but it escapes my steely dragnet...........(great reason to look at cards, not that I ever do that.) Thanks, Grant ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:32:41 -0400 To: grains@shaw.ca, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... From: Mike Glasser His birthday should be 1929.. http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/38/1957-Topps Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 17, 2017 12:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... An Evilbay seller has a 1957 #8 Don "Ears" Mossi listed as a UER.......anyone know what the error is? I have looked and looked at mine but it escapes my steely dragnet...........(great reason to look at cards, not that I everdo Thanks, Grant ================= To: "'Mike Glasser'" , Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:48:43 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... From: "Grant Rainsley" Thanks Matt & Mike=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: Mike Glasser [mailto:miglasser@aol.com] Sent: July 17, 2017 9:33 AM To: grains@shaw.ca; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... His birthday should be 1929.. http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/38/1957-Topps Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 17, 2017 12:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... An Evilbay seller has a 1957 #8 Don "Ears" Mossi listed as a UER.......anyone know what the error is? I have looked and looked at mine but it escapes my steely dragnet...........(great reason to look at cards, not that I everdo Thanks, Grant This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ================= Date: 17 Jul 2017 18:12:24 +0000 To: Subject: An update From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= To: "'GRANT RAINSLEY'" , Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:29 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... From: "Matt Yudt" Was curious and found this: http://www.tradingcarddb.com/GalleryP.cfm/pid/4131/col/1/yea/1957/Don-Mossi?sTeam wrong dob year From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GRANT RAINSLEY grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 12:15 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1957 Topps.......a question....... An Evilbay seller has a 1957 #8 Don "Ears" Mossi listed as a UER.......anyone know what the error is? I have looked and looked at mine but it escapes my steely dragnet...........(great reason to look at cards, not that I everdo Thanks, Grant ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 19:14:07 -0400 To: marcpeter53@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] MUNGO!---Meaning to write about this for From: Joshua Levine A few weeks ago I had the opportunity, thanks to Peter himself, to attend aperformance of Mungo. This was something I will always cherish. I have known Peter for nearly two decades and knew that acting was always apassion of his but I never got to see him perform. I was not disappointed. If any of you have spent any time with Peter in person, you know he is soft-spoken, modest, and relatively quiet person. However, on stage, he is a truly commanding presence and he transformed himself into the Mungo. Van Lingle Mungo was a true character and Peter truly brought him to life. I quickly forgot I was watching my friend and soon found myself absorbed by Mungo's world and his tale. The story itself is told in anengaging, interesting, funny, and thought provoking way wrapped around Mungo's two true loves, baseball and his wife. The performance was just under an hour and I was genuinely disappointed it did not last longer. Bravo Peter. It was wonderful and I honestly can't wait to see it again. I urge everybody in OBC to try to see if you get an opportunity. PS Getting a cool customized box of Cracker Jack at the end was also awesome as was the postcards for the show featuring some of Mungo's cards. PPS At some point, someone has got to record the performance and put it on the website for OBC. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Iversen marcpeter53@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 16, 2017 5:26 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] MUNGO! Sunday June 25th was the final day of the Hollywood FringeFestival (HFF) and the completion of another step that will lead to the culmination of a story I started writingas a thank you to OBC back in 1997. Between June 3rd and the 25th we completed six performances ofMUNGO! at TheComplex Theater in Hollywood.Not long after our second performance we had sold out the house for theremaining four shows. The festival was a success in every way we could have imaginedincluding an invitation to come back to the Complex Theater for two moreweekends in the spring of 2018, when our baseball novel, that features VanLingle Mungo, DIAMOND STARS, is published. If you'd like to read more about our experience at theHollywood Fringe Festival you can check out my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/people/Marc-Peter-Reyna/100016492896121 There is also information and reviews on our HollywoodFringe Festival page for http://www.hollywoodfringe.org/projects/3617 This all started thanks to OBC - and the relationships Ihave been fortunateenough to build here over the years... Thanks to you all! ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 20:44:45 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: COMC shipping From: smartalecx@aol.com I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:01:29 -0400 To: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: "Thomas W. Billing" I have done a LOT of business with COMC for the last several years. For a long time it took an eternity to get the order as the email finally saying the order was shipped could be two weeks after I had pulled the trigger on it. Now the last three orders have been shipped fairly quickly. The were small for the most part though. One thing to be aware of with them is that, if you buy a Deans Cards card, that is most likely in Cincinnati and thengets shipped to WA where it is blended into the order. This ca really slow things down. Lately I have avoided Deans Cards on COMC because of this AND because he sells his same cards on his site and on eBay so you run the risk of not getting the variation you wanted. This happened to me twice and I was not a happy camper despite being given a =E2=9Cbetter=E2=9D version and credit for the card. I believe you are correct that there is a warehouse with them that has a staff running around filling orders. I will keep shopping with them due to the reverse side scans that are shown on every Tom Billing > On Jul 17, 2017, at 8:44 PM, smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. > Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? > Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? > Thanks > Gary Mandell > 4243 North Claremont Avenue > Chicago, IL 60618-2905 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:01:58 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: "Sal Domino" I have found that generally, they are slightly ahead of the dates they post on their website. Not all cards are stored there (some "remotely"- aka Dean's cards, etc). I think they tend to get backed up around National time, but this year they got me stuff reasonably early. They will be at the National. A good bunch of guys always willing to answer questions. And they will probably have their scratch off cards for promotions like free Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:45 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 03:12:41 +0200 (CEST) To: LAWRENCE TIPTON , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru the "Card Flipper" From: T J VALACAK MIME-Version: 1.0 One of my favorite Christmas movies is "The Christmas Story". There is so much to like about that film. In the movie, one of Ralphies buddies is Flip, and he is quite a character. Well, our own "Flip" Tipton is quite the character as well. Hope you do well on this! T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > On July 17, 2017 at 3:00 PM "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Some interesting discussion over on Net54 about =E2=9CCard Flippers=E2=9D. Then I thought about the statement that appears when you visit the OBC webpage: > Remember when flipping and trying for leaners was the way you collected > Flipping has taken on a whole new meaning LOL! > My first experience with flipping a card (with the intention of making a profit) was when I flipped that 1952 Topps grey back card. Purchased for $5, sold on eBay for $300. With grading costs, eBay and Pay Pal fees, I probably made $225 or so. I have flipped cards on the Dealer Scum server, but I offered those up at what I paid or close to it. I haven=E2=99t flipped cards on the Dealer Scum server in awhile as these pick-ups now end up in the Wauctions. > How long will the Wauctions continue is another good question, but I think Wauction #12 might be it. > A few months ago (in an auction) I purchased a lot of six T206 cards that have partial names on the top and bottom of the cards. I think these =E2=9Cmis-cuts=E2=9D are popular cards with T206 collectors. For the first time I have consigned to an Auction, so I guess we will see how popular they are LOL! > I won the six cards for the opening bid of $100, and with the buyers premium included I paid $112.50. It=E2=99s hard to figure out the shipping charge since I won a few other items (including a couple of vintage wax boxes). I=E2=99ll say I=E2=99m into these six T206 cards for $114 or $19 each. Cards are in pretty nice G-VG shape too, one has a back stamp as well. I would think that T206 collectors would pay $15 each for these cards, even without the names on the top and bottom. > I consigned to Sterling Sports Auctions. The owner Lee, is a friend of OBC, and even gave OBC some props in one of his Auctions. Most auctions (except Gurus Wauctions) charge not only a buyers premium, but also a sellers premium. I learned that the sellers premium is negotiable, but (even before negotiations) Lee waived the sellers premium for me since I am a first timer. Lee said he would probably list these cards in (3) two card lots, andwill be included in his Auction #64 which opens Thursday. Auction #64 closes two weeks later (after the National) on Thursday August 3. > I=E2=99m not posting to hype my items, just thought you guys mightbe interested in how I do. At this point I think I would be happy to breakeven LOL, but I also hope to learn a little bit about this part of our hobby. > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:32:52 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wheaties ebay lot From: chris tripler Is the bidder of the wheaties lot OBC? Or does anyone plan on bidding in that lot? If not, I'm going to try and snipe it... http://m.ebay.com/itm/362035976471 Sent from my iPhone ================= To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:30:02 -0400 Subject: 65s AT the national From: ED SCHOTT allright boys I will pay you back in cash plus hits for any (and I know these will be of the 8 remaining cards heres whats left 3-(1) HR Leaders( Book Value 50 / I will pay 10 350-(3)MANTLE( Book Value 600/40 477-(1)CARLTON(BV 200/25 526-(3)CATFISH (BV 80/10 lets get this thing DONE thanks and have a great time at The NAT ================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:55:53 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-NATIONAL] help me handshake! From: Geno Wagner Mike meant to send the message below to everyone going to the National... Mike, I've been to a few breweries in GRR and never been disappointed! I know it's down the road from you, not in Grand Rapids, but Bell's Two Hearted is one of the all-time best!! I live in Colorado, with no shortage of good breweries, but we can't get Bells...I guess that's why they invented airplanes! As I type this, I just dropped off my daughter, her friends, and six horsesin Estes Park for a big show. I was going to go to the Standley Hotel fora whiskey (from The Shining), but too crowded. So I'm reading Gone With The Wind at Oskar Blues, enjoying a Dales Pale Ale from the motherland...:) Take Care, Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "mfmroz@prodigy.net [OBC-NATIONAL]" > Date: July 18, 2017 at 11:57:48 AM MDT > To: > Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] help me handshake! > Reply-To: mfmroz@prodigy.net > Geno brings up a great point....stouts and IPAs also make great handshakes. > I'm coming from Michigan, where we have some fantastic microbreweries, and will be spending a couple of days working in Grand Rapids, aka Beer City,USA, and home to 60+ microbreweries in the city alone, on my way down to teh Windy City. I would be happy to pick up a couple of cases of Michigan'sfinest to pass out at the swap. > All I ask is if you have a preference of beer type, please shoot me an email. > Austin Brothers in Alpena, MI, brews the best wheat beer (Woody Wheat) I've ever tried, and is currently my go-to for the summer. > See y'all in next week. > Mike Mroz ================= To: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 14:51:50 -0400 Subject: large 1975 Topps Lot From: "Bob Donaldson" http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1682141#post1682141 looks like a decent price ================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:41:27 -0400 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wheaties ebay lot From: Mark Talbot Then you would be's not sniping my bid, but it wouldn't be the first time. - Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2017, at 9:32 PM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Is the bidder of the wheaties lot OBC? Or does anyone plan on bidding in that lot? If not, I'm going to try and snipe it... > http://m.ebay.com/itm/362035976471 > Trip > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:42:56 -0400 To: Mark Talbot Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wheaties ebay lot From: Joel Freedman how do we know they are real? On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Mark Talbot talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Then you would be's not sniping my bid, but it wouldn't be the first time. > - Mark > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2017, at 9:32 PM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Is the bidder of the wheaties lot OBC? Or does anyone plan on bidding in > that lot? If not, I'm going to try and snipe it... > http://m.ebay.com/itm/362035976471 > Trip > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:18:03 -0400 (EDT) To: Geno Wagner , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-NATIONAL] 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.5 From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 This is the list I am using - I think Sal sent it out last Wednesday. BE REGARDS --------------------------- MARK > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL]" > To: OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Date: July 12, 2017 at 8:39 PM > Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.5[1 > [Attachment(s) from Sal Domino included below] > Ok kids, it=E2=99s getting real close now. I=E2=99ll be there in 10 days, and I need to buy a new suitcase and backpack. Just about all handshakes are complete and we are finding others who may just show up to theNational. It=E2=99s getting good now! I need to know ASAP if anyone is going to be around for the Cubs game on Sunday night. I want to buy the cheap tickets before the weekend. > Here is the autograph schedule for the National. All the green ones are VIP signers. You may have their tickets in your package. If not, use oneof the 6 or so wild card tickets that are in the envelope. > http://www.tristarproductions.com/National/index.html > 34 names so far (a couple of ???), but this is looking like the largest contingent of OBCers ever! So let=E2=99s fill in those blanks! > Name > Cell Phone > Hotel > Mon Game > Thurs Dinner > Fri Net54/Brewers Game > Swap Session > Days There > Sal > Domino > 516-238-8070 > Extended Stay Am North > Sunday > Y > Brewers? > Y > Sa-Su > Joe > Adriance > 703-405-0483 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Y > Tu-Su > Bob > Bannon > 203-509-9076 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > N > W-Sa > Jerry > Barnes > 937-673-0694 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Y > F-Su > Jason > Christopherson > 715-533-0437 > N > N > N > N > W-F > Doug > DeJong > 913-638-7131 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Fr-Su > Wayne > Delia > 914-204-9425 > Radisson Chicago O'Hare > N > ? > White Sox > Y > Th-Su > Joe > Denning > 518-322-1692 > Courtyard Chicago O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Sa-Sun > Richard > Dingman > 413-695-1303 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > M-Sa > Larry > Gersbach > 513-310-0195 > F-Sa > Spike > Glidden > 508-472-9915 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Net54 > Y > W-Su > Kent > Goto > 618-910-9354 > Extended Stay Am North > Y > Brewers? > Y > Su-Su > Tom > Housley > 937-269-7655 > Hotel Garden Inn > Y > ? > Y > Th-Su > David > Luftig > 541-525-9903 > N > N > N > Y > Sat ? > Mike > Mackie > 414-418-9507 > n/a > N > Y > Y > F-Sa > Gary > Mandell > 773-547-2112 > Home > N > Y > N > Y > Th-Sa > Ken > Morganti > 339-440-2862 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > Y > Y > Tu-M > Mike > Mroz > 586-596-2776 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > N > Y > F-Su > Ron > Perry > Th-Fr > Bob > Reed > 203-494-9440 > ? > Mike > Rich > 248-709-2235 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Steve > Rittenberg > 256-585-4329 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > Su-M > Mike > Rumley-Wells > Sister's > Taylor > Schock > 919-423-5190 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > ? > Net54 > Y > Tu-Su > Wes > Shepard > 937-367-4724 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Aaron > Shirley > 618-509-3600 > Friend > N > N > Y > Mark > Talbot > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Th-Su > Sam > Taylor > 330-322-3718 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Jimi > Thayer > 740-507-5671 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Larry > Tipton > 904-318-9372 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > W-Su > TJ > Valacak > 847-927-9971 > Home > Y > Geroge > Vrechek > 312-654-8909 > Home > Y > ? > Y > W-Su > Geno > Wagner > 850-218-9204 > Family > N > Y > Hilton Garden Inn > N > Th > Mac > Wubben > 240-423-4605 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > Tu-Su > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 18:25:14 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Four sluggers From: Steve Rittenberg Have you heard of Ted Kluszewski, Vic Wertz, Roy Sievers, and Joe Adcock? Of course you have. Take out your 1953 Topps set (or search for images on Comc.com). Anyway, here is a really cool biography of all four men, Bill James style. http://www.billjamesonline.com/four_sluggers/?Year14&pg=5 He has a pay website but this article is publicly available so I can share the link. I'm in the middle of a Bill James binge-reading festival. I can sit here every night and read everything he's written dating back to 2007 or so. Its the best $3 per month I have ever Steve Rittenberg ================= To: , Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:00:59 -0400 Subject: z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 From: "Sal Domino" Only a few more days! I still am running around organizing my lists, getting a new suitcase and backpack that holds my laptop so I can consolidate. Hope I can get everything in those. But for those who may have LOST their copies , here is the latest and greatest! Like has been said, handshakes are NOT a requirement. To me it's just a personal quest to try to hit everyone. Being the keeper of the roster and getting guys in and out of the show, I really get a kick out of handing over an envelope. Fill in those blanks! My last one may be going out on Friday. Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Courtyard Chicago O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Motel 6 Elk Grove Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Hilton Garden Inn Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 19 Jul 2017 01:40:33 +0000 To: Subject: Small Waiver From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 09:43:26 -0400 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Sal puts a lot of effort into putting this roster together. Please help him, and yourself, by helping fill in the blanks. Let us know what days and events you will be attending. It helps guys with pulling handshakes. Ifyou are only attending on Thursday and Friday and they are not showing up until Saturday, no reason to pull a handshake for you. Mike "one week to preview" Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-NATIONAL ; obc-ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Sal Domino included below] Only a few more days! I still am running around organizing my lists, getting a new suitcase and backpack that holds my laptop so I can consolidate. Hope I can get everything in those. But for those who may have LOST their copies , here is the latest and greatest! Like has been said, handshakes are NOT a requirement. To me it=E2=99s just a personal quest to try to hit everyone. Being the keeper of the roster and getting guys in and out of the show, I really get a kick out of handing over an envelope. Fill in those blanks! My last one may be going out on Friday=E2=A6 Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Courtyard Chicago O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Motel 6 Elk Grove Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Hilton Garden Inn Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:01:10 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill From: biggies@aol.com I will not be attending the Brewers game. -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] To: ChicoD1 ; OBC-NATIONAL ;obc-ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 9:43 am Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 Sal puts a lot of effort into putting this roster together. Please help him, and yourself, by helping fill in the blanks. Let us know what days and events you will be attending. It helps guys with pulling handshakes. If you are only attending on Thursday and Friday andthey are not showing up until Saturday, no reason to pull a handshake for you. Mike "one week to preview" Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-NATIONAL ; obc-ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Sal Domino included below] Only a few more days! I still am running around organizing my lists, getting a new suitcase and backpack that holds my laptop so I can consolidate. Hope I can get everything in those. But for those who may have LOST their copies , here is the latest and greatest! Like has been said, handshakes are NOT a requirement. To me it=E2=99s just a personal quest to try to hit everyone. Being the keeper of the roster and getting guys in and out of the show, I really get a kick out of handing over an envelope. Fill in those blanks! My last one may be going out on Friday=E2=A6 Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Courtyard Chicago O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Motel 6 Elk Grove Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Hilton Garden Inn Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 10:03:29 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 From: Yahoo I fixed mine to match Shepherds since he is driving. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2017, at 09:43, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Guys, > Sal puts a lot of effort into putting this roster together. Please help him, and yourself, by helping fill in the blanks. Let us know what days and events you will be attending. It helps guys with pulling handshakes. If you are only attending on Thursday and Friday and they are not showing up until Saturday, no reason to pull a handshake for you. > Mike "one week to preview" Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-NATIONAL ; obc-ramblings > Sent: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 [1 > [Attachment(s) from Sal Domino included below] > Only a few more days! I still am running around organizing my lists, getting a new suitcase and backpack that holds my laptop so I can consolidate. Hope I can get everything in those. But for those who may have LOST their copies , here is the latest and greatest! Like has been said, handshakes are NOT a requirement. To me it=E2=99s just a personal quest to try to hit everyone. Being the keeper of the roster and getting guys in and out of the show, I really get a kick out of handing over an envelope. > Fill in those blanks! My last one may be going out on Friday=E2=A6 > Name > Cell Phone > Hotel > Mon Game > Thurs Dinner > Fri Net54/Brewers Game > Swap Session > Days There > Sal > Domino > 516-238-8070 > Extended Stay Am North > Sunday > Y > Brewers? > Y > Sa-Su > Joe > Adriance > 703-405-0483 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Y > Tu-Su > Bob > Bannon > 203-509-9076 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > N > W-Sa > Jerry > Barnes > 937-673-0694 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Net54 > Y > F-Sa > Jason > Christopherson > 715-533-0437 > N > N > N > N > W-F > John > Dahms > 517-206-9134 > Sheridan > Doug > DeJong > 913-638-7131 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Fr-Su > Wayne > Delia > 914-204-9425 > Radisson Chicago O'Hare > N > ? > White Sox > Y > Th-Su > Joe > Denning > 518-322-1692 > Courtyard Chicago O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Sa-Sun > Richard > Dingman > 413-695-1303 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > M-Sa > Larry > Gersbach > 513-310-0195 > F-Sa > Joel > Glickman > Spike > Glidden > 508-472-9915 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Net54 > Y > W-Su > Kent > Goto > 618-910-9354 > Extended Stay Am North > Y > Brewers? > Y > Su-Su > Tom > Housley > 937-269-7655 > Hotel Garden Inn > Y > ? > Y > Th-Su > Mike > Mackie > 414-418-9507 > n/a > N > Y > Y > F-Sa > Gary > Mandell > 773-547-2112 > Home > N > Y > N > Y > Th-Sa > Ken > Morganti > 339-440-2862 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > Y > Y > Tu-M > Mike > Mroz > 586-596-2776 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > N > Y > F-Su > Ron > Perry > Sheridan > Th-Fr > Bob > Reed > 203-494-9440 > ? > Mike > Rich > 248-709-2235 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Steve > Rittenberg > 256-585-4329 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > Su-M > Mike > Rumley-Wells > Sister's > Taylor > Schock > 919-423-5190 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > ? > Net54 > Y > Tu-Su > Wes > Shepard > 937-367-4724 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Aaron > Shirley > 618-509-3600 > Friend > N > N > Y > Mark > Talbot > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Th-Su > Sam > Taylor > 330-322-3718 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Jimi > Thayer > 740-507-5671 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Larry > Tipton > 904-318-9372 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > W-Su > TJ > Valacak > 847-927-9971 > Home > Y > Geroge > Vrechek > 312-654-8909 > Home > Y > ? > Y > W-Su > Geno > Wagner > 850-218-9204 > Family > N > Y > Hilton Garden Inn > N > Th > Mac > Wubben > 240-423-4605 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > Tu-Su > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:02:54 -0400 To: tradingbases@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Paypal From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, I have never used or set up a paypal account I like to enter the 21st century and get one Just checking to see what everyone uses as an account to link up A Bank Account A debit Card A credit card or other? Thanks and Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:11:31 -0400 To: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paypal From: "Thomas W. Billing" Welcome to the 21st century. You have to link up a bank account to be =E2=9Cverified=E2=9D and a credit card is optional. I personally have both set up and there is a toggle at the top to use the bank account or the credit card. Since I have a Discover card that pays cash back, I ALWAYS use that option. My credit card gets paid from the bank account anyway later. I cannot advise about a debit card as I do not use it. Most likely PayPay would be warm and fuzzy about it though. One good thing about PayPal is that you can send money for nofee to =E2=9Cfriends=E2=9D which can include dealers at card shows. This saved me at the Strongsville show in the near past. With COMC, you need to be able to put money into your =E2=9Ckitty=E2=9D to make offers. Many offers are accepted and you can save a ton of money with that option. Best of luck to you. Tom Billing > On Jul 19, 2017, at 12:02 PM, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi all, > I have never used or set up a paypal account > I like to enter the 21st century and get one > Just checking to see what everyone uses as an account to link up > A Bank Account > A debit Card > A credit card > or other? > Thanks and Happy Trading, > Kevin Martens ================= Date: 19 Jul 2017 16:27:31 +0000 To: Subject: Off Topic: Anyone know anything about coins? From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "jehutch75@gmail.com" Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:55:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Off Topic: Anyone know anything about coins? From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:37:18 -0400 To: OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Priorities--t206 wagner story From: Joshua Levine Okay...finally have a chance to sit down at the computer and write the story...some of you have heard this and I am pretty sure some of you were there. A preface...many years ago my mother worked for a law firm that representedBruce McNall (then owner of the L.A. Kings). I remember her telling me herfirm represented the purchase with Wayne Gretzky of a T206 Wagner. She asked me about what was so special about it...flash forward a couple of years and I heard this new company had started that graded cards for you. I was like, whatever, I can judge a card just as well as anyone but they were making a name for themselves for grading the McNall/Gretzky Wagner and were planning to show it at the upcoming National in Anaheim. Arrive at the National, get a dealer badge from someone (I think Steve R.) and enter. Spent some time shopping when I ended up near the PSA display ofthe Wagner. I looked at it and said, hmmm...looks trimmed. I asked the security guard and the PSA rep. if I could hold it. They looked at me (I thinkI was 20 or 21 at the time) and my dealer badge and finally agreed after some persuasion on my part. I said I would never own one and just want to say I held it, oh and that my mother's firm represented the sale, blah blah blah. They said fine, and took it out of the display and handed it to me. I happened to have been shopping and picked up a T206 Phillie. I then, to their horror, put the t206 phillie behind the wagner and showed it to several people. The trim was not obvious but you could definitely see the T206 Phillie's border behind the wagner. When the PSA rep finally saw what I was doing, he grabbed it back, put it in the display, and told the security guard to escort me to the door. Which he did and I promptly turned around and walked back in with my dealer badge though. Over the course of the next coupleof days whenever I walked by the display, I got a dirty look from the rep. I have told that story several times over on Net54 and I think here once ortwice too...I was very happy when the book "The Card" came out and discussed the Wagner at length. It has since been proven and admitted to by the original owner (now convicted felon, Bill Mastro) that that Wagner was originally oversized and was cut down to its current dimensions (btw, it does fall within the margin of error for T206 sizing, but still...). There you have it... BTW, besides Jim Montgomery, I think there is one other former OBCer who own's a Wagner. Not saying who but pretty sure he mentioned it to me once. Hemay not own it anymore though. -----Original Message----- From: wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] To: Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-NATIONAL] ; obc-national Sent: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 10:01 am Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Priorities Happened in Anaheim with the most famous t206 Wagner. Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-NATIONAL]" Date: 7/19/17 3:44 AM (GMT-07:00) To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Priorities Did the Josh incident occur at Atlanta in 1999? I seem to remember being there. Great to se Jim Montgomery's name mentioned in dispatches. It was always anadventure receiving a package labelled JAMO!! On Wed Jul 19 2017 11:09:51 GMT+0100 (GMT Standard Time), Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] wrote: I remember seeing a few of them (at once even). Never got to hold one though. I located an article from around the 2004 national that reminded me: http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_42.html I've also seen the Gretzky one - it was one of the highligts of my firstever trip to the west coast in 2000(?) It may have even been to more than one National (I'm not sure about that, but it has changed hands a couple times since I attended my first National in Atlanta in 1997.) Josh is probably right about it being trimmed - I never realized he got escorted out of the show for it though! I even had an opportunity to BUY one at one of my first Nationals. Dealerhad one in his case, ungraded. I asked out of curiousity. (Like buying a yacht, the saying goes, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it.") I couldn't pull the trigger on it at $100k, especially ungraded. (Although, to be fair it was probably when grading was just beginning to take off.) Plus, it was before I owned my house and the two mortgages that eventually came withit. So I was a little short on actually being able to pay for it (by about$100k). Only guy I know who ever had one was Jim Montgomery, who was in OBC back when I first joined. Never did see that o ne, but I have no doubts about him owning one for those of you who don't know who I'm talking about. I did look for it when he sold his collection (through Mastronet?) along with his company and retired all those years ago. Jim told us the story of how he acquired it at one of the Ft. Washington shows. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ Fr om: 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:49 AM To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; Subject:RE: [OBC-NATIONAL] Priorities I saw my first at The Museum of Modern Art in NY in the Burdick exhibit. Then I saw the Gretzky one at a National. Josh was one of the first to say the card was trimmed. Guru HELD one 2 years ago. I am more than sure that Heritage or one of the auction houses will have one there. It=E2=99s kind of surreal to see something that small that can set your family for life! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: Geno Wagner [mailto:illini_grad_90@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:33 PM To: Sal Domino Cc: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Priorities I want to actually see a T206 Honua Wagner...not sure if I ever have. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2017, at 7:07 PM, 'Sal Do mino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] Here is are my short (Umm I mean Ken=E2=99s birddog) list for this year: Finish 66T- 547 (Clarke SP), 583 (Tigers SP), 591 (Shirley/Jackson R SP) 72T- 668 (Rangers) 700 (Murcer IA) 769 (Aker) 777 (Wilhelm) OPC Mets =E2=93 11/10/16 Need 2 1968- 177 (Ryan) 1971- 641 (Team) Dodgers =E2=93 52T 314 (Campanella), 394 (Herman),395 (Pitler) 1952 TOPPS- Red/Black - 37 (BK Snider) (ok Herman, Pitler and Black back Snider) If I can get rid of the first 2 lines and grab one or two from the others, this will be a successful show. ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:53:34 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: PayPal at the National From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Do most dealers accept PayPal? It sure beats carrying around a wad of cash. Do they expect you to pay Friends/Family? I have used PayPal for years, but just now downloaded the App on my phone. ================= To: obc Ramblings , LAWRENCE TIPTON Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 17:59:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PayPal at the National From: Mac Wubben I think it's becoming more accepted. It would be a dream come true for me...but I guess it creates an unwanted paper trail. I've only used it a couple times at shows. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:53 PM To: obc Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] PayPal at the National Do most dealers accept PayPal? It sure beats carrying around a wad of cash. Do they expect you to pay Friends/Family? I have used PayPal for years, but just now downloaded the App on my phone. ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 14:16:56 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PayPal at the National From: Ken M Some dealers do accept Paypal, but most don't advertise it like credit cards (and some don't even advertise that - or make you pay sales tax on your purchase). I bought a Jello SP from Kurt Tourdot using it. He told me he would gladly pay the fees (right after I sent it to him via friends and family). I have my bank account and debit card linked - which are essentially the same account anyway.  I like it because it's the only line of credit I managed to keep after my bankruptcy. Fortunately, I didn't owe anything on at the time or it would probably be gone too. They also offer 6 month no interest, no payment options on eBay purchases of $100 or more - which is more than enough time, even for me to set aside money to pay it off. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 1:53 PMTo: obc Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] PayPal at the National ================= Date: 19 Jul 2017 18:55:06 +0000 To: Subject: '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:34:59 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 From: Ken M    Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, so I picked out all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of the few cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists with Yaz on them next to each other in the box. I flip them over and eyeballed them. "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase YOUR scores...' and 'To increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and retrieves his 1968 set and places the missing variation in his binder (naturally, it was the mangled one he needed, not the nicer one). "Hey, while you got that out, you should check to see if you have any Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine some of you are groaning right now at the thought of me looking through your "complete" sets looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz checklist isn't one of the Milton Bradley s, it is close to #195 Pepitone (the highest numbered MB). I immediately notice a yellow backed Dan Frisella on the same page. We then worked our way back to the first page picking out 8 or 10 more... Ryan rookie and Perry included. A few of those even had the confirming white line on the front edge, but they were pretty easy to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The great thing? The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I saved one of the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot the MB". Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: Kostro at the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, Brandon in the 2nd row middle,  and Savage on the right side of the third row. That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look for the bright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered cards from 1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 with a bright yellow back is Topps. ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:51:40 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Buyer beware when Morganti looks through your "completed sets..."=81=89 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean > McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the > National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, so I > picked out all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of the few > cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists with Yaz on > them next to each other in the box. I flip them over and eyeballed them. > "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase YOUR scores...' and 'To > increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and retrieves his 1968 set and > places the missing variation in his binder (naturally, it was the mangled > one he needed, not the nicer one). "Hey, while you got that out, you should > check to see if you have any Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine > some of you are groaning right now at the thought of me looking through > your "complete" sets looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz > checklist isn't one of the Milton Bradleys, it is close to #195 Pepitone > (the highest numbered MB). I immediately notice a yellow backed Dan > Frisella on the same page. We then worked our way back to the first page > picking out 8 or 10 more... Ryan rookie and Perry included. A few of those > even had the confirming white line on the front edge, but they were pretty > easy to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > *From: *directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Date: *Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM > *To: *OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > *Cc: * > *Subject:*[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 > Attachment] > There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on > evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The great > thing? The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I saved one of > the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot the MB". > Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: > Kostro at the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, > Brandon in the 2nd row middle, and Savage on the right side of the third > row. > That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look for > the bright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered cards from > 1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 with a bright > yellow back is Topps. > Tom Sam Taylor ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 15:21:56 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster From: T J VALACAK Content-Disposition: inline I have held out on commiting to anything other than the swap due to my own health, which i do not talk about much, but as many of you know, is not good. I was out at the National Institute of Health last week for a few days. A bronchoscopy revealed I have some bacteria in my lungs. Tests on the bacteria revealed a type of pneumonia. I am going on antibiotics and hopefully will start feeling better. I am hoping to make the show on Wednesday and would love to make the dinner on Thursday. I'm not even trying to get to the net54 event, though I know it will be a great time. I am hoping to make it to the show more than one day, but there are So many variables I have to beaware of. Basically, I will be a game time decision wed at the show and thursday for dinner. You can put me as a no for the ballgames. I missed you all in 2015, so my priority here in 2017 is just to see everyone - and that is what I am looking forward to most. TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com,OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com,obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-07-19 8:45:33 AM Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 Sal puts a lot of effort into putting this roster together. Please help him, and yourself, by helping fill in the blanks. Let us know what days and events you will be attending. It helps guys with pulling handshakes. If you are only attending on Thursday and Friday and they are not showing up until Saturday, no reason to pull a handshake for you. Mike "one week to preview" Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-NATIONAL ; obc-ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) (#aolmail_TopText) from Sal Domino included below] Only a few more days! I still am running around organizing my lists, getting a new suitcase and backpack that holds my laptop so I can consolidate. Hope I can get everything in those. But for those who may have LOST their copies , here is the latest and greatest! Like has been said, handshakes are NOT a requirement. To me it=E2=99s just a personal quest to try to hit everyone. Being the keeper of the roster and getting guys in and out of the show, I really get a kick out of handing over an envelope. Fill in those blanks! My last one may be going out on Friday=E2=A6 Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Courtyard Chicago O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Motel 6 Elk Grove Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Hilton Garden Inn Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 18:19:28 -0400 To: T J VALACAK Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 From: Yahoo Good luck T.J. Sending prayers your way. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2017, at 16:21, T J VALACAK tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Gents, > I have held out on commiting to anything other than the swap due to my own health, which i do not talk about much, but as many of you know, is not good. I was out at the National Institute of Health last week for a few days. A bronchoscopy revealed I have some bacteria in my lungs. Tests on the bacteria revealed a type of pneumonia. I am going on antibiotics and hopefully will start feeling better. I am hoping to make the show on Wednesday and would love to make the dinner on Thursday. I'm not even trying to get to the net54 event, though I know it will be a great time. I am hoping to make it to the show more than one day, but there are So many variables I have to be aware of. Basically, I will be a game time decision wed at the show and thursday for dinner. You can put me as a no for the ballgames. > I missed you all in 2015, so my priority here in 2017 is just to see everyone - and that is what I am looking forward to most. > TJ Valacak > -----Original Message----- > From: OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com > To: ChicoD1@aol.com,OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com,obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Cc: > Sent: 2017-07-19 8:45:33 AM > Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill inthe Blanks V 1.6 > Guys, > Sal puts a lot of effort into putting this roster together. Please help him, and yourself, by helping fill in the blanks. Let us know what days and events you will be attending. It helps guys with pulling handshakes. If you are only attending on Thursday and Friday and they are not showing up until Saturday, no reason to pull a handshake for you. > Mike "one week to preview" Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-NATIONAL ; obc-ramblings > Sent: Tue, Jul 18, 2017 9:07 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] z2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 [1 > [Attachment(s) from Sal Domino included below] > Only a few more days! I still am running around organizing my lists, getting a new suitcase and backpack that holds my laptop so I can consolidate. Hope I can get everything in those. But for those who may have LOST their copies , here is the latest and greatest! Like has been said, handshakes are NOT a requirement. To me it=E2=99s just a personal quest to try to hit everyone. Being the keeper of the roster and getting guys in and out of the show, I really get a kick out of handing over an envelope. > Fill in those blanks! My last one may be going out on Friday=E2=A6 > Name > Cell Phone > Hotel > Mon Game > Thurs Dinner > Fri Net54/Brewers Game > Swap Session > Days There > Sal > Domino > 516-238-8070 > Extended Stay Am North > Sunday > Y > Brewers? > Y > Sa-Su > Joe > Adriance > 703-405-0483 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Y > Tu-Su > Bob > Bannon > 203-509-9076 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > N > W-Sa > Jerry > Barnes > 937-673-0694 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Y > F-Su > Jason > Christopherson > 715-533-0437 > N > N > N > N > W-F > John > Dahms > 517-206-9134 > Sheridan > Doug > DeJong > 913-638-7131 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Fr-Su > Wayne > Delia > 914-204-9425 > Radisson Chicago O'Hare > N > ? > White Sox > Y > Th-Su > Joe > Denning > 518-322-1692 > Courtyard Chicago O'Hare > N > N > N > Y > Sa-Sun > Richard > Dingman > 413-695-1303 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > M-Sa > Larry > Gersbach > 513-310-0195 > F-Sa > Joel > Glickman > Spike > Glidden > 508-472-9915 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Net54 > Y > W-Su > Kent > Goto > 618-910-9354 > Extended Stay Am North > Y > Brewers? > Y > Su-Su > Tom > Housley > 937-269-7655 > Hotel Garden Inn > Y > ? > Y > Th-Su > Mike > Mackie > 414-418-9507 > n/a > N > Y > Y > F-Sa > Gary > Mandell > 773-547-2112 > Home > N > Y > N > Y > Th-Sa > Ken > Morganti > 339-440-2862 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > Y > Y > Tu-M > Mike > Mroz > 586-596-2776 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > N > Y > F-Su > Ron > Perry > Sheridan > Th-Fr > Bob > Reed > 203-494-9440 > ? > Mike > Rich > 248-709-2235 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Steve > Rittenberg > 256-585-4329 > Comfort Inn O'Hare > Su-M > Mike > Rumley-Wells > Sister's > Taylor > Schock > 919-423-5190 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > ? > Net54 > Y > Tu-Su > Wes > Shepard > 937-367-4724 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > N > N > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Aaron > Shirley > 618-509-3600 > Friend > N > N > Y > Mark > Talbot > Springhill Suites O'Hare > Y > Th-Su > Sam > Taylor > 330-322-3718 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Brewers > Y > W-Su > Jimi > Thayer > 740-507-5671 > Motel 6 Elk Grove > Net 54 > Y > F-Sa > Larry > Tipton > 904-318-9372 > Springhill Suites O'Hare > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > W-Su > TJ > Valacak > 847-927-9971 > Home > Y > Geroge > Vrechek > 312-654-8909 > Home > Y > ? > Y > W-Su > Geno > Wagner > 850-218-9204 > Family > N > Y > Hilton Garden Inn > N > Th > Mac > Wubben > 240-423-4605 > Westin ORD > N > Y > Net 54 > Y > Tu-Su > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:34:16 -0400 To: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: Joel Freedman ok, y=E2=99all made me loot at my 68 set for MB=E2=99s. Yup, found two, luckily i had each in my dupe box. so now that i have two 68 MB=E2=99s does that mean i am starting anotherset? On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:51 PM, 'Samuel E. Taylor' drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Buyer beware when Morganti looks through your "completed sets..."=81=89 > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, so I pickedout all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of the few cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists with Yaz on them next to each other in the box. I flip them over and eyeballed them. "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase YOUR scores...' and 'To increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and retrieves his 1968 set and places the missing variation in his binder (naturally, it was the mangled one he needed, not the nicer one). "Hey, while you got that out, you should check to see if you have any Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine some of you are groaning right now at the thought of me looking through your "complete" sets looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz checklist isn't one of theMilton Bradleys, it is close to #195 Pepitone (the highest numbered MB). Iimmediately notice a yellow backed Dan Frisella on the same page. We then worked our way back to the first page picking out 8 or 10 more... Ryan rookie and Perry included. A few of those even had the confirming white line onthe front edge, but they were pretty easy to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 Attachment] > There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The great thing?The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I saved one of the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot the MB". > Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: Kostro at the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, Brandon in the 2nd row middle, and Savage on the right side of the third row. > That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look for the bright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered cards from 1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 with a bright yellow back is Topps. > Tom > -- > Sam Taylor ================= To: "Samuel E. Taylor" , Joel Freedman Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 00:49:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:52:02 -0400 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: Joel Freedman Taylor, i think you looked through my dupe box in AC and pulled an MB. if it wasn=E2=99t an MB, it was something odd. On Jul 19, 2017, at 8:49 PM, Taylor Schock wrote: > Yes! And contrary to popular collecting habits, it is not a complete set unless you get all the baseball, football, and hot rods! =8A Wait.Maybe I should take that back. The hot rods are hard enough to find without EVERYONE chasing them. LOL > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Joel Freedmanjefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:34 PM > To: Samuel E. Taylor > Cc: Ken M; OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual > ok, y=E2=99all made me loot at my 68 set for MB=E2=99s. Yup, foundtwo, luckily i had each in my dupe box. > so now that i have two 68 MB=E2=99s does that mean i am starting another > On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:51 PM, 'Samuel E. Taylor' drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Buyer beware when Morganti looks through your "completed sets..."=81=89 >> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, so I picked out all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of the few cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists with Yaz on them nextto each other in the box. I flip them over and eyeballed them. "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase YOUR scores...' and 'To increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and retrieves his 1968 set and places the missing variation in his binder (naturally, it was the mangled one he needed, not the nicer one). "Hey, while you got that out, you should check to see ifyou have any Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine some of you aregroaning right now at the thought of me looking through your "complete" sets looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz checklist isn't one of the Milton Bradleys, it is close to #195 Pepitone (the highest numbered MB). I immediately notice a yellow backed Dan Frisella on the same page. We thenworked our way back to the first page picking out 8 or 10 more... Ryan rookie and Perry included. A few of those even had the confirming white line on the front edge, but they were pretty easy to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; >> Cc: >> Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 Attachment] >> There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The great thing? The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I saved one of the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot the MB". >> Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: Kostro at the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, Brandonin the 2nd row middle, and Savage on the right side of the third row. >> That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look for the bright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered cards from1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 with a bright yellow back is Topps. >> Tom >> -- >> Sam Taylor ================= Date: 20 Jul 2017 01:52:36 +0000 To: Subject: OBC hat waiver - Have One! From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 22:47:18 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: "Sal Domino" Well since he has the toughest card and more than two, you know what that means=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:35 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, so I picked out all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of the few cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists with Yaz on them next toeach other in the box. I flip them over and eyeballed them. "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase YOUR scores...' and 'To increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and retrieves his 1968 set and places the missingvariation in his binder (naturally, it was the mangled one he needed, not the nicer one). "Hey, while you got that out, you should check to see if you have any Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine some of you are groaning right now at the thought of me looking through your "complete" sets looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz checklist isn't one of the Milton Bradleys, it is close to #195 Pepitone (the highest numbered MB). I immediately notice a yellow backed Dan Frisella on the same page. We then worked our way back to the first page picking out 8 or 10 more... Ryan rookieand Perry included. A few of those even had the confirming white line on the front edge, but they were pretty easy to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 Attachment] There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The great thing? The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I saved one of the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot the MB". Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: Kostroat the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, Brandon inthe 2nd row middle, and Savage on the right side of the third row. That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look for thebright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered cards from 1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 with a bright yellow back is Topps. ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:04:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual From: "Sal Domino" Here=E2=99s the check list of MB=E2=99s for you guys with 2 or more=E2=A6 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:34 PM To: Samuel E. Taylor Cc: Ken M; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual ok, y=E2=99all made me loot at my 68 set for MB=E2=99s. Yup, found two, luckily i had each in my dupe box. so now that i have two 68 MB=E2=99s does that mean i am starting anotherset? On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:51 PM, 'Samuel E. Taylor' drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Buyer beware when Morganti looks through your "completed sets..."=81=89 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, so I picked out all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of the few cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists with Yaz on them next toeach other in the box. I flip them over and eyeballed them. "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase YOUR scores...' and 'To increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and retrieves his 1968 set and places the missingvariation in his binder (naturally, it was the mangled one he needed, not the nicer one). "Hey, while you got that out, you should check to see if you have any Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine some of you are groaning right now at the thought of me looking through your "complete" sets looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz checklist isn't one of the Milton Bradleys, it is close to #195 Pepitone (the highest numbered MB). I immediately notice a yellow backed Dan Frisella on the same page. We then worked our way back to the first page picking out 8 or 10 more... Ryan rookieand Perry included. A few of those even had the confirming white line on the front edge, but they were pretty easy to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 Attachment] There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The great thing? The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I saved one of the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot the MB". Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: Kostroat the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, Brandon inthe 2nd row middle, and Savage on the right side of the third row. That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look for thebright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered cards from 1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 with a bright yellow back is Topps. Sam Taylor ================= To: , Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:21:39 -0400 Subject: 2017 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.7 From: "Sal Domino" Couple more days til I hit Chi-Town! The list is getting filled up. We are ready to set an OBC record this year! Here is the latest list. Cell Phone Mon Game Thurs Dinner Fri Net54/Brewers Game Swap Session Days There Extended Stay Am North Westin ORD Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Radisson Chicago O'Hare White Sox Courtyard Chicago O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Extended Stay Am North Hotel Garden Inn Motel 6 Elk Grove Motel 6 Elk Grove Springhill Suites O'Hare Comfort Inn O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Springhill Suites O'Hare Motel 6 Elk Grove Net 54 Springhill Suites O'Hare Net 54 Hilton Garden Inn Westin ORD Net 54 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:21:12 -0400 Subject: Fwd: 65s AT the national UPDATE From: ED SCHOTT Thanks to Emardubya for the last #3 *******down to 7 and a half********* and Remember I will pay you back in cash plus hits for any (and I know these will be of the remaining cards heres whats left NOW 350-(3)MANTLE( Book Value 600/40 477-(1)CARLTON(BV 200/25 526-(3)CATFISH (BV 80/10 lets get this thing DONE thanks and have a great time at The NAT ================= Date: 20 Jul 2017 20:20:11 +0000 To: Subject: Gotta brag- Original Rogers Hornsby for .99 From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: 20 Jul 2017 22:37:43 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Gotta brag- Original Rogers Hornsby for .99 From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= To: "davidluftig@gmail.com" Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 22:45:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gotta brag- Original Rogers Hornsby for .99 From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 07:14:20 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 19th century Trade cards? From: Steve Rittenberg I believe I saw recently that someone collects 19th century Trade cards but I don't recall who that was. Please get in touch. Thanks. Steve RIttenberg ================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 12:42:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Live at the National From: Larry Tipton I saw Spikes "Facebook Live" videos last year from AC. So if you can't be in Chicago stand by for some live broadcasts from the show floor and also the other OBC activities including the swap! I plan on broadcasting via "Facebook Live", and hope Spike and others do aswell. OBC - Old Baseball Cards (on Facebook) Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:48:45 -0700 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Live at the National From: John Stamper Looking forward to it! Us West Coasters live vicariously through you guys. John Stamper > On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:42 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I saw Spikes "Facebook Live" videos last year from AC. So if you can't bein Chicago stand by for some live broadcasts from the show floor and also the other OBC activities including the swap! > I plan on broadcasting via "Facebook Live", and hope Spike and others do as > OBC - Old Baseball Cards > (on Facebook) > Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 18:22:04 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Subject: wantlist request From: smartalecx@aol.com Hi Guys with limited time to try to hit a record number of national attendees, i have found that using the Who Collect What tab on our website to be a great having said that, i have found that a lot of set wantlists have been completed since they were posted on this page. so please take a moment and update your Who Collects What section of your profile and make things even easier for the rest of us. Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Sal Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:23:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: richard dingman I have about 70 items in my "bought" cart at COMC and when I recently went to get it shipped for $3, I was told "not eligible for economy shipping" Apparently some cards make you ineligible?? This has never happened before and I have bought cards not on site, like from Anyone have any idea what this is all about? Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:01 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I have found that generally, they are slightly ahead of the dates they poston their website. Not all cards are stored there (some =93remotely=94- akaDean=92s cards, etc). I think they tend to get backed up around National time, but this year they got me stuff reasonably early. They will be at theNational. A good bunch of guys always willing to answer questions. And they will probably have their scratch off cards for promotions like free shipping. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:45 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 11:37:29 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: "Thomas W. Billing" Shipping is now $3.99 at COMC. I have never heard of this. Is there a chance that 70 times goes FREE? It is quite possible. LMK, please. Tom Billing > On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:23 AM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have about 70 items in my "bought" cart at COMC and when I recently went to get it shipped for $3, I was told "not eligible for economy shipping" > Apparently some cards make you ineligible?? > This has never happened before and I have bought cards not on site, like from > Anyone have any idea what this is all about? > Richard D > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > onbehalf of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:01 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping > I have found that generally, they are slightly ahead of the dates they post on their website. Not all cards are stored there (some =93remotely=94- aka Dean=92s cards, etc). I think they tend to get backed up around Nationaltime, but this year they got me stuff reasonably early. They will be at the National. A good bunch of guys always willing to answer questions. And they will probably have their scratch off cards for promotions like free shipping. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:45 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping > I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. > Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? > Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? > Thanks > Gary Mandell > 4243 North Claremont Avenue > Chicago, IL 60618-2905 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: "Thomas W. Billing" Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 17:20:14 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: richard dingman Further investigation indicates that if you do any flipping and click some button that allows you to do this then you are not eligib;le for cheap $3 shipping. Unfortunate that this is never explained or mentioned beforehand. I will be sure to mention it to them very forcefully at the National. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 11:37 AM To: richard dingman Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping Shipping is now $3.99 at COMC. I have never heard of this. Is there a chance that 70 times goes FREE? It is quite possible. LMK, please. Tom Billing On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:23 AM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I have about 70 items in my "bought" cart at COMC and when I recently went to get it shipped for $3, I was told "not eligible for economy shipping" Apparently some cards make you ineligible?? This has never happened before and I have bought cards not on site, like from Anyone have any idea what this is all about? Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I have found that generally, they are slightly ahead of the dates they poston their website. Not all cards are stored there (some =93remotely=94- akaDean=92s cards, etc). I think they tend to get backed up around National time, but this year they got me stuff reasonably early. They will be at theNational. A good bunch of guys always willing to answer questions. And they will probably have their scratch off cards for promotions like free shipping. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:45 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:52:56 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: "Thomas W. Billing" Go for it. They need to know that they need to have everything aboveboard. > On Jul 22, 2017, at 1:20 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Further investigation indicates that if you do any flipping and click some button that allows you to do this then you are not eligib;le for cheap $3shipping. > ?? > Unfortunate that this is never explained or mentioned beforehand. > I will be sure to mention it to them very forcefully at the National. > Richard > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > onbehalf of 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 11:37 AM > To: richard dingman > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ;Sal > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping > Shipping is now $3.99 at COMC. I have never heard of this. Is there a chance that 70 times goes FREE? It is quite possible. LMK, please. > Thanks, > Tom Billing >> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:23 AM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> I have about 70 items in my "bought" cart at COMC and when I recently went to get it shipped for $3, I was told "not eligible for economy shipping" >> Apparently some cards make you ineligible?? >> This has never happened before and I have bought cards not on site, likefrom >> Anyone have any idea what this is all about? >> Richard D >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:01 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping >> I have found that generally, they are slightly ahead of the dates they post on their website. Not all cards are stored there (some =93remotely=94- aka Dean=92s cards, etc). I think they tend to get backed up around National time, but this year they got me stuff reasonably early. They will be at the National. A good bunch of guys always willing to answer questions. And they will probably have their scratch off cards for promotions like free shipping. >> Sal Domino >> OBC - 1992 >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:45 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping >> I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. >> Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? >> Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actualtimeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? >> Thanks >> Gary Mandell >> 4243 North Claremont Avenue >> Chicago, IL 60618-2905 >> Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:34:39 -0500 Subject: 59 maris/berra scrapbook fun From: mark zentkovich Picked up this scrapbook at an estate sale this weekend. Should be fun trying to get these out or cut out and soak etc No mantle cards but some cool news and mag photos Mark Zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= To: richard dingman , Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:38:06 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping From: mark zentkovich Oh now that you mention it, I did that one time (on purpose to try the feature) When you are buying in a certain mode (reseller mode or something) then the25 cents that are usually added to a cards for handling are not added=E2=A6so when you go to ship those items, they want the 25 cents added in that was not done up front.. I guess that mode may work well for some folks but not others. Mark Z Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 12:20 PM To: Thomas W. Billing Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping Further investigation indicates that if you do any flipping and click some button that allows you to do this then you are not eligib;le for cheap $3 shipping. Unfortunate that this is never explained or mentionedbeforehand. I will be sure to mention it to them very forcefully at the National. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 11:37 AM To: richard dingman Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping Shipping is now $3.99 at COMC. I have never heard of this. Is there a chance that 70 times goes FREE? It is quite possible. LMK, Tom Billing On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:23 AM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I have about 70 items in my "bought" cart at COMC and when I recently went to get it shipped for $3, I was told "not eligible for economy shipping" Apparently some cards make you ineligible?? This has never happened before and I have bought cards not on site, like from Anyone have any idea what this is all about? Richard D on behalf of 'Sal Domino'ChicoD1@aol.com[OBC-Ramblings] Sent:Monday, July 17, 2017 9:01 PM Subject:RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I have found that generally, they are slightly ahead of the dates they poston their website. Not all cards are stored there (some =E2=9Cremotely=E2=9D- aka Dean=E2=99s cards, etc). I think they tend to get backed up around National time, but this year they got me stuff reasonably early. They will be at the National. A good bunch of guys always willing toanswer questions. And they will probably have their scratch off cards for promotions like free shipping. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 Behalf Ofsmartalecx@aol.com[OBC-Ramblings] Sent:Monday, July 17, 2017 8:45 PM Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] COMC shipping I was grazing around their site this weekend, and they are promising shipping 10 days after an order is placed, with deliver 2 weeks after the order. Since I believe, for the most part, they actually hold the inventory in their warehouse, any explanation as to why it takes a week to fill an order? Can anyone who has ordered from them let me know if this is their actual timeline, or just giving them the leeway if they need it? Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 14:41:24 -0400 To: mzentko@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 maris/berra scrapbook fun [2 Attachments] From: mikesportsfan@aol.com You could always add more pages and do a set in a scrap album. -----Original Message----- From: mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: yahoogroups Sent: Sat, Jul 22, 2017 2:34 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 maris/berra scrapbook fun [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from mark zentkovich included below] Picked up this scrapbook at an estate sale this weekend. Should be fun trying to get these out or cut out and soak etc No mantle cards but some cool news and mag photos Mark Zentkovich Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:05:34 -0600 (MDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1957 #407 Mantle/Berra........ From: GRANT RAINSLEY Got some Scotch Tape handy? You aren't squeamish and you have no scruples? Only $9.99...............should reside in OBC......... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Topps-Mickey-Mantle-Yogi-Berra-407-High-Number-My-Yankee-Great-Price-/272772773049?hash=item3f828634b9:g:2wkAAOSwqVBZaiV3 ================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:00:38 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: OBC webpage profile From: Sean McGowan How do I update my profile? specifically, "who collects what"? ================= Date: 22 Jul 2017 20:37:19 +0000 To: Subject: Re: OBC webpage profile From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 20:57:35 +0000 (UTC) To: Subject: National Pick Up Requests From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, As usual, I will not be attending the Nationals (wish they would bring it back to the left coast!). There have been some sensational hits to my top ten this year (talking about you Ken!), which has left the Top 10 as a Top 7. If you see any of these 7 - PLEASE grab them. I'll pay you back. I'll trade in your favor. Whatever. Just don't let them get past you because I can't find them! All are 1923 W572s: Barbare, Duncan, Heilmann, Parkinson (actually should be pretty easy to find as there are at least 3 heavily trimmed ones out there), Rapp, Rigney, Wambsganss And if you see movie stars/actress/actor cards that look like the W572s (black & white front - blank back) and they are priced reasonably - grab those too. My lists are way too complicated to explain for these type cards - so I'm just grabbing them all and sorting them out later. Doubles, Triples, whatever are not a problem. Congrats to those of you lucky enough to attend! ================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 20:06:16 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: National From: Marshall West Since I can=E2=99t go to the National...=E2=9Cagain=E2=9D, I=E2=99m going to dedicate some time to create a list of all my give-away (or send away) cards. I call it dejunking. So I started today, and I quickly found 2 =E2=9Cmis-cut=E2=9D football cards. I know there are some =E2=9Cmis-cut=E2=9D enthusiasts out there. Will someone please remind me who they are? Enjoy the National my friends, Marshall West ================= To: OBC-Ramblings , Marshall West Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 02:14:42 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National From: richard dingman Mike Rich. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Marshall West marshall@marshallwest.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:06 PM To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National Since I can=92t go to the National...=93again=94, I=92m going to dedicate some time to create a list of all my give-away (or send away) cards. I call it So I started today, and I quickly found 2 =93mis-cut=94 football cards. I know there are some =93mis-cut=94 enthusiasts out there. Will someone pleaseremind me who they are? Enjoy the National my friends, Marshall West ================= Date: 24 Jul 2017 03:04:53 +0000 To: Subject: Need some help, but I might be able to come to the National From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2017 22:09:25 -0500 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need some help, but I might be able to come to the National From: OBC Nick P My travel arrangements are seriously F$@&? Up. Story for later. I have reached out to my roommate about your request. It's possible. It's 50/50 you'd have a bed too. Parkin isn't free but oh well..... As soon as I know anything I'll let you know. Nick Pelletier > On Jul 23, 2017, at 10:04 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > My wife is insisting that I drive out, because she knows how excited I would be. I dont have a lot of cash, seeing as I havent saved up at all- but I really want to come for the swap. I was wondering if someone who is attending the show would allow me to crash on their floor Saturday night after the swap. I hate to say that I cant kick in much for the room, so if no one is comfortable with me doing this, I completely understand. If someone is willing to do so, I will be able to come to the show for Saturday, and then attend the swap! > Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:22:38 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1959 Oklahoma Today cards on eBay From: Matthew Glidden This seller has a batch of singles form this scarce series, though not the Mantle. $3-11 opening bids. https://www.collectors.com/search/all?searchterm=1959%20oklahoma%20today&days=Any&lowprice=Any&highprice=Any&subseller=wipeoutslider&seller=93 ...for reference, here's a Net54 thread with the original magazine and complete player page. Nice collectors creation for those days. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=161052 ================= Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:54:29 -0400 To: brightair@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, marshall@marshallwest.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I concur that I collect all sports miscuts. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings ; Marshall West Sent: Sun, Jul 23, 2017 10:14 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Mike Rich. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Marshall West marshall@marshallwest.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:06 PM To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National Since I can=E2=99t go to the National...=E2=9Cagain=E2=9D, I=E2=99m going to dedicate some time to create a list of all my give-away (or send away) cards. I call it dejunking. So I started today, and I quickly found 2 =E2=9Cmis-cut=E2=9D football cards. I know there are some =E2=9Cmis-cut=E2=9D enthusiasts out there. Will someone please remind me who they are? Enjoy the National my friends, Marshall West ================= Date: 25 Jul 2017 01:13:32 +0000 To: Subject: Waivers! From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 25 Jul 2017 14:26:06 +0000 To: Subject: 1956 Topps Astroth #106 (faded team & position) From: Mountaineer1999@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 18:22:32 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: National - Badges? From: Mike Mackie Hi everyone - I'm looking forward to seeing everyone at National on Friday and Saturday and at the swap. Not sure if I missed it, but wonderingwhat the status of entry badges is - whether Sal was successful or not, etc. Mike Mackie ================= Date: 25 Jul 2017 20:03:52 +0000 To: Subject: Need a bit of help with identification (White Sox fans can help) From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:26:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a bit of help with identification (White Sox From: Aaron Shirley Has to be 1972. Egan was only a White Sox for 1971-72. Bahnsen only from 1972-75. Hank Allen only 1972-73. Dick Allen only 1972-74. Etc... Everyone else checks out for From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:03 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a bit of help with identification (White Sox fans can help) In a lot of vintage stuff I bought on Net 54, I got a White Sox team photo pack, including: Melton, Bahnsen, Egan, Herrmann, Andrews, Bradley, May, Allen, Johnstone, Reichardt, Williams and Wood. Cant figure out the year. Photos are B&W and have the player name on the bottom Any help would be awesome! ================= To: "'Mike Mackie'" , Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 19:52:32 -0400 Subject: RE: National - Badges? From: We are successful! Text me and one of us will get you in. From: Mike Mackie [mailto:macknife13@prodigy.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:23 PM To: OBC Ramblings; Sal Domino Subject: National - Badges? Hi everyone - I'm looking forward to seeing everyone at National on Friday and Saturday and at the swap. Not sure if I missed it, but wondering whatthe status of entry badges is - whether Sal was successful or not, etc. Thanks! Mike Mackie ================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 00:02:18 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Welcome to Chicago! From: Ken M Hi gang,  I left Sam Taylor's house bright and early and drove to Chicago without a lot of traffic until I got within 25 miles of the city. Even then it wasn't bad. I forgot to account for the time change and arrived before noon. They wouldn't let me check in until at least 1, so I gragged a nice lunch at an italian place near my hotel.  After getting settled in, I took some time to rest. I texted Sal and Steve to let them know I had arrived, but passed on going to the show on setup day and took a quick nap instead. Got up at 4 and texted Steve again. Found out the show was letting out in about 20 minutes and I was 30 minutes away. I picked up Steve and Richard Dingman, dropped off Richard at their hotel and went to dinner with Steve. Afterwards, we made a quick visit to Target for provisions and Cold Stone Creamery for dessert. Steve picked up the tab at all three places! THANKS STEVE!!  After getting our fill of food, we went back to Richard and Steve's room and swapped some cardboard. RICHARD DINGMAN presented me with a 1968 Topps MB Dodgers team, leaving me with just six to go (all HOF'ers unfotunately). THANKS RICHARD!!  STEVE RITTENBERG showed off some great deals he got during the setup, including about half of the 1948-49 Leaf short prints! He let me look through his dupes after giving me a hockey handshake... Two upgrades for my 80-81 set and four sharp looking hockeyzontals (68-69). THANKS STEVE!!  Despite not preparing handshakes for anyone, I did manage to hit both Steve and Richard while I was there, so I didn't feel so bad. Called it quits just after ten, so I could get back to the hotel and get some sleep. We have a bunch of dealer badges, so there's a 7:30 am shuttle tomorrow and I'm gonna be on it. Sneak Peek starts at 4 pm. Good night out there. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 05:27:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Guru causes incident in TSA screening From: Larry Tipton So I'm waiting for my carry on bag to go through the scanner. The TSA agentgrabs my bag, takes it to a secure area and says follow me. So I'm plenty early for my flight, I've not packed anything illegal, and I appreciate TSAsecurity. The agent pulls out a stack of 100 sixteen pocket Ultra Pro sheets wrapped in Saran Wrap. Gives me a look like cocaine? Stacks of cash? I admit it looks very suspicious and state "Ultra Pro plastic sheets that hold1948 Bowman baseball cards". She points me to another TSA guy, who proceeds to pat me down in all the wrong places. It's gonna be a hell of a week! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 04:58:34 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru causes incident in TSA screening From: Ken M 1948 Bowmans were either placed on the no fly list or triggered the TSA agent, who can't track down a Musial RC. At least you weren't trying to smuggle cheese. Then it would've been a full body cavity search! :-P Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 26, 2017 4:27 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Guru causes incident in TSA screening So I'm waiting for my carry on bag to go through the scanner. The TSA agent grabs my bag, takes it to a secure area and says follow me. So I'm plenty early for my flight, I've not packed anything illegal, and I appreciate TSA security. The agent pulls out a stack of 100 sixteen pocket Ultra Pro sheets wrapped in Saran Wrap. Gives me a look like cocaine? Stacks of cash? I admit it looks very suspicious and state "Ultra Pro plastic sheets that hold 1948 Bowman baseball cards". She points me to another TSA guy, who proceeds to pat me down in all the wrong places.It's gonna be a hell of a week!GuruSent from my iPhone------------------------------------Posted by: Larry Tipton ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information abou ================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 07:13:14 -0400 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru causes incident in TSA screening From: ShoelessWes No freakin' way! That's hilarious! How could anyone ever make that up?! Wes Shepard > On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:27 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > So I'm waiting for my carry on bag to go through the scanner. The TSA agent grabs my bag, takes it to a secure area and says follow me. So I'm plenty early for my flight, I've not packed anything illegal, and I appreciate TSA security. The agent pulls out a stack of 100 sixteen pocket Ultra Pro sheets wrapped in Saran Wrap. Gives me a look like cocaine? Stacks of cash? Iadmit it looks very suspicious and state "Ultra Pro plastic sheets that hold 1948 Bowman baseball cards". She points me to another TSA guy, who proceeds to pat me down in all the wrong places. > It's gonna be a hell of a week! > Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 14:56:46 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Truly blessed! Cancer is gone...for now! From: Jim Thayer Thank you all for the well-wishes and prayers. We just learned yesterday that they were able to remove all the cancer from her surgery! She's up and moving around pretty well right now, but still unable to lift much or do anything rigorous at all. My wife is a go go go kinda girl, so sitting around doing nothing does not do well for her at all! The kids have been awesome taking care of mommy, and we are truly blessed to have so many great people around us. I will say that she is determined to have a full body scan the next time she goes in, so we will see what happens then. In my mind, 39 years old is way too young to be dealing with this crap! #cancersucks I hope to be more active in the next few days. I wish I was in Chicago right now, but I know I'm in the right place, and I wish you all a great time at the National! ================= Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:15:43 -0400 To: Jim Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Truly blessed! Cancer is gone...for now! From: Steve God bless you and your family, Best wishes, Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Jul 26, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thank you all for the well-wishes and prayers. We just learned yesterdaythat they were able to remove all the cancer from her surgery! She's up and moving around pretty well right now, but still unable to lift much or doanything rigorous at all. My wife is a go go go kinda girl, so sitting around doing nothing does not do well for her at all! The kids have been awesome taking care of mommy, and we are truly blessed to have so many great people around us. I will say that she is determined to have a full body scan the next time she goes in, so we will see what happens then. In my mind,39 years old is way too young to be dealing with this crap! #cancersucks > I hope to be more active in the next few days. I wish I was in Chicago right now, but I know I'm in the right place, and I wish you all a great time at the National! > Jimi ================= Date: 26 Jul 2017 16:23:32 +0000 To: Subject: Baseball Stamp - Anyone seen this? From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: 26 Jul 2017 16:33:40 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Truly blessed! Cancer is gone...for now! From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: 26 Jul 2017 16:35:17 +0000 To: Subject: And ... speaking of stamps. Let's do some waivers. From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: 26 Jul 2017 19:12:50 +0000 To: Subject: Small non-sport waiver wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 26 Jul 2017 20:35:56 +0000 To: Subject: thank you From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 07:49:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Day One From: Larry Tipton Spikes flight landed about 1/2 hour after mine, so I waited for him at baggage area #9. Then Taylor picked us up, and we drove the ten minutes right to the show. Many dealers still setting up as it was six hours before the show actually opens up. But plenty dealers were ready for business too . Ran into many OBC members and also several OBC dealers. Prices seem so cheap on the regular cards we all know and love. I found a ten cent box with 1972 Topps baseball hi numbers ten cents each? I went through six or eight monster boxes and bought all he had (I thought) 38 cards $3.80 also these 1975 Topps football checklists these are pretty scarce as you had to mail off to Topps for the uncut sheet and most kids cut them up.They have team schedule on front team checklist on the back I got 44 of them .10c each a good find for me. Later in the show I saw Ken M in the same bargain box and he found more '72 highs that I missed plus he pulled lots of '73 baseball hi numbers he said were costly all .10c I need to be more tenacious One of my first stops was Tim Newcomb who mentioned he was breaking up a set of '33 Goudey and I picked up several hits with a great discount including Rogers Hornsby with a thumbtack hole. Looks like I brought in 17 cards for my set and need around 25 more to complete. '66 Fleer Weird Ohs, and lots of hits to my non sports sets '56 Bubbles Elvis especially but finished of '64 Munsters with the needed variation, also finished off '66 Thunderball on the cheap, and took '63 Popsicle Space cards down to just one needed. Found several needed '55 Rails and Sails hi numbers which are tough $3 each! So it's 5:55 the show closes at six and I have spent my daily allotment. Ivisit William Chappells table and see a stack of '35 Goudey 4in1 I am trying for the master set four Babe Ruth cards in the master set. William has one of the four I need exept previous owner wrote "Kenny" on the back! So I was able to pay via PayPal F/F $415 for the Babe bundled with another needed '35 with Cochran and Gehringer. So I had to dig into the reserves but youmake exceptions for Babe Ruth. To bad more dealers dont accept PayPal cause I really hate to carry all this cash cash is king I guess. Sorry for typos as I am on my phone. Up and ready for another long day! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:46:03 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: OBC-style 1952 Topps on eBay From: Matthew Glidden Seller de8jr just listed a number of trimmed and otherwise OBC grade singles at .99 opening + $1 shipping. http://stores.ebay.com/SPORTSCARDS-AND-ODD-STUFF/_i.html?_nkw=1952+topps&submit=Search&_sid=7522264 ================= Date: 27 Jul 2017 17:29:15 +0000 To: Subject: Monday and Wednesday National reports From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 23:24:26 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Looking for Durocher and Tinker From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, I struck out with Wilhelm it seems, but another day...another birthday. Today brings us Leo Durocher and Joe Tinker. At this time, I can use any card from these guys from 1968 and earlier, so if you have even one,I'll gladly trade for them. Thanks so much! ================= Date: 28 Jul 2017 00:08:15 +0000 To: Subject: Mantle/Maris Waiver! From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 01:00:12 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: National video From: mark holland I enjoy reading the daily finds in all of the posts. Some of us are enjoying the national through your words so keep them coming. What was the outcome of video idea? At one point we were talking about video from the convention floor and swap meet? I would like to know the schedule so that I can get the popcorn and chips ready. Surely one of you guyscan sport an inconspicuous hard hat with a camera on top. Then you could have a few cables running down to your stylish fanny pack. It would belike you are a "SECRET, AGENT MAN". If we follow guru we will see every bargain bin on the floor, if we follow Taylor we will see a bunch of 68s withbright yellow backs. If we shop with Mike Rich we need to pull out the reference book and if it's Morganti we'll hear muttering in the background about "who gave me that" ... and then get a great view of the concessionstand. If it's TJ, we will see Jose Canseco's arms and if Kent grabsthe camera we will see 9 1975 Oscar Gamble cards, If we get lucky Sal may be found with some 2017 eye candy. Maybe you guys should pass around the camera so that we can get a diverse look....starting with Sal. Enjoy the show....Mark Holland ================= Date: 28 Jul 2017 03:53:41 +0000 To: Subject: Question From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 23:26:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Day 2 From: Larry Tipton Opening bell found me sorting a big stack of exhibit aircraft cards both white and black numbers buying 66 cards for about .75c each. Two more sets tochase lol. The show seems pretty busy all day to me. To mix things up I got three free autographs NBA Bill Cartwright, Fritz Peterson, and Scott Williamson also PSA took my picture insert into a baseball card and slabbed it kind of fun plus they gave me a mini bat of some kind labeled "Submission Stress Stick" lol I am not kidding! Visited Net54 member Taxmechanick (Glenn) and bought an 1887 Gold Coin N284card of Bushong slabbed SGC 10 what 1887? Thanks Glenn I love it! Met lots of old and new friends both OBC and Net54 then pulled the trigger on some kind of game card featuring the Adams kids Pugsley and Wednesday itjust drew me in for three dollars lol! Finished a bunch of sets today '61 Nu Card Scoops baseball, 1959 Topps Wacky Plaks, 1966 "007", 1967 Topps Maya, 1971 Fleer Drag Champs, 1972 Donruss Choppers and Hot Bikes, and brought several sets down to one or two. I did buy a nice stack of original 1969 Donruss Odd Rods happy to get those. Eleven hits total now 1934 Diamond Stars baseball and 23 hits 1933 Goudey baseball really gaining some ground on these sets. Also finished 1953 Topps World on Wheels with two low grade high numbers which are not seen much, one dealer had three high numbers and I needed two. I nicknamed this dealer "half price Harry" cause I would request a price half of what was listed on his already discounted prices and my technique worked most of the time. As you can see plenty of non sports cards here on the show floor. No gripesfrom me at all I think the show has been solid. I did start to hear the roar of the crowd over at the box breaks or pack wars area but although it's not my thing plenty of collectors like this fine by me. I need one card to complete 1966 Philadelphia Green Beret set but bought anunopened wax pack for $10 gonna open that baby up one in sixty-six chance I pull the card I need, don't worry I won't attempt the Gum. I cancelled on the trip to downtown and had a nice dinner across the streetwith Taylor, Bob, and Spike with a Van Halen cover band performing on the green they are called Atomic Punk 23 years a cover band? Stopped at Walgreens Bob/Cigs Spike/Pepsi Taylor/nothing Me/Haagen-Dazs I win that version ofpack Exhausted and ready to sleep its 11:18 PM. Got to be ready for tomorrow! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 28 Jul 2017 21:47:56 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Question From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= To: Sal Domino , Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 21:58:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 From: Yaz Hope you guys are having a great time at the National. There are probably about 100 National related emails waiting for me to read but I'm still trying to wrap my head around this Milton Bradley deal. Naturally, I checked out my set and found 2 for sure MBs, those Hall boys, Jimmie and Dick. Unfortunately, I also found a Rocky Colavito that I can't decide on and also a Pete Cimino that is unclear. The Colavito is a different shade than the Halls but not close to the other Topps cards. It has no offcut border on the top or bottom of the front and it's not supposed to because there were BB cards above and below it on the sheet. It does have a white border on the left. It was an end card on both the Topps and MB sheets so IRDK. The Cimino is also a different shade but less yellow, closer to the Topps cards but distinctly different. It has a white border showing on the top front but maybe it is like that in the Topps set. IRDK. This is making me crazy and now my set that has been done for 10 years is no longer done. Damn. Greg (yaz) On 7/19/2017 10:04 PM, 'Sal Domino' ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Sal Domino included below] > Here’s the check list of MB’s for you guys with 2 or more… > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > *From:*OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel Freedman > jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:34 PM > *To:* Samuel E. Taylor > *Cc:* Ken M; OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual > ok, y’all made me loot at my 68 set for MB’s. Yup, found two, luckily > i had each in my dupe box. > so now that i have two 68 MB’s does that mean i am starting another set? > On Jul 19, 2017, at 3:51 PM, 'Samuel E. Taylor' drsam9795@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > > wrote: > Buyer beware when Morganti looks through your "completed sets..."😁😉 > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Ken Mcardclctor@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] >wrote: > Funny you should write this Tom. I just got back from visiting Sean > McGowan. He had a pile of boxes for me to look through to bring to the > National. The last box we saw had Red Sox cards in it - about 99% UV, > so I picked out all the vintage to add to the stuff I was bringing. Of > the few cards we picked out, two of them were 1968 Topps checklists > with Yaz on them next to each other in the box. I flip them over and > eyeballed them. "Yep. You got both versions here, see: 'To increase > YOUR scores...' and 'To increase THE scores...'" Sean runs off and > retrieves his 1968 set and places the missing variation in his binder > (naturally, it was the mangled one he needed, not the nicer one). > "Hey, while you got that out, you should check to see if you have any > Milton Bradleys in there." Now, I can imagine some of you are groaning > right now at the thought of me looking through your "complete" sets > looking for something. (Hi Sam!) While the Yaz checklist isn't one of > the Milton Bradleys, it is close to #195 Pepitone (the highest > numbered MB). I immediately notice a yellow backed Dan Frisella on the > same page. We then worked our way back to the first page picking out 8 > or 10 more... Ryan rookie and Perry included. A few of those even had > the confirming white line on the front edge, but they were pretty easy > to spot among their Topps counterparts, right Sean? :-D > Ken M > /Sent from my not so smart phone./ > ------ Original message------ > *From:*directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Date:*Wed, Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM > *To:*OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; > *Cc:* > *Subject:*[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Milton Bradley cards - a visual [1 > Attachment] > There was a lot of '68's that sold for, well, a lot, the other day on > evilBay, and there were a handful of MBs scattered among them The > great thing? The seller scanned the entire lot front & back, so I > saved one of the pictures so you Milton Bradley hunters can play "Spot > the MB". > Look at the backs of this lot. The 4 MB cards jump right out at you: > Kostro at the bottom left corner, Pierce to the upper right of Kostro, > Brandon in the 2nd row middle, and Savage on the right side of the > third row. > That's why the best way to find them is to flip a stack over & look > for the bright yellow - just from cards 1-195 though. Only scattered > cards from 1-195 with the neon yellow are MB's. Anything above 195 > with a bright yellow back is Topps. > Tom > -- > Sam Taylor ================= Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 00:32:05 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Report Day 3 From: Larry Tipton Doug DeJong arrived bright and early this AM from his drive in from NC and joined Spike, Taylor, and me as we enjoyed the free breakfast at our hotel.Off to the show! As soon as I entered I went right to the line for the free autograph Rico Petrocelli and only had to wait fifteen minutes. Then I hustled back to Net54 member Taxmechanick (Glenn) table. Yesterday Ibought a slabbed 1887 Gold Coin N284 card of Bushong. Today I bought a slabbed 1888 Scrapps tobacco card of Bushong so excited to get these cards. I spent most of the day shopping for bargains. My new dealer friend in the back of the room said any Donruss Odd Rod I wanted for $3, so I bought 2 hits to one of the later issues I needed, then 16 duplicates of the tough to find originals from 1969. Time to get serious with my 1960 Leaf baseball. Way on the other side of the show floor, picked up 14 high numbers most were $7 some were a bit more. Picked up some random non sports hits, then back to the autograph area and got Steve Trachsel free no line. Forgot about his wife swapping scandal until Spike just reminded me. That might have been an interesting personalization Bought seven hits 1966 Topps Superman cards the ones that only have the copyright line on the back. I found a stack of Bond Bread baseball cards eleven different paid $20 I'm like 90% sure these are legit plus the dealer told me they were lol! Back to my new dealer friend in the corner I picked up a 1985 Topps WWF setof 66 cards 22 stickers I looked on eBay and I think $40 was an ok price Weird I know. Next got Gary Beaman free autograph he beat out OJ for the Heisman Trophy in 1967. We shut off the lights as we left the show. We attended the Net 54 dinner thank you very much Leon! Enjoyed the food and I enjoyed one bottled water and a Diet Coke as I am the designated driver cause I don't drink lol! The speakers were all really great Brian Drent from Mile High told some good stories on acquiring all that unopened wax. Al Crisafulli educated me on what Lina Blackburn has done for baseball. Finally thanks to the last speaker Brian who investigates fraud in the collectibles market he is an FBI Special Agent. I still have cash and a PayPal balance I'm ready for Saturday! Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 23:35:33 -0700 To: Larry Tipton , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Report Day 3 From: wite3 ================= Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:13:51 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Non-National Waiver Wire II From: Thomas Elliott I like Peter Mead's idea. So, here's a dump of my baseball duplicates box. Please claim away. Include your full name and address to make my life easier mailing these out. Conditions range from well-loved, total Tiptons to not-too-bad (vg/ex?). The older they are, the more beat up they are. 1960 Topps -- 25, 105, 286 1961 Topps -- 76, 105, 139, 148, 217 1962 Topps -- 39, 71, 74, 82 1963 Topps -- 106, 186, 191 1964 Topps -- 49, 77, 151, 166, 181, 183, 184, 194, 215 1964 Topps Giants -- 6 1966 Topps -- 57, 168 1967 Topps -- 14, 115, 147 1968 Topps -- 56, 64, 72, 123, 448 1969 Topps -- 20, 44, 149, 206, 208, 279, 318, 329, 333, 344, 355, 361, 374, 406, 410, 418, 419, 421, 425, 450, 547 1970 Topps -- 12, 276, 357, 361 1971 Topps -- 46, 97, 103, 294 1973 Topps -- 235 1974 Topps -- 98, 100, 110, 320, 351, 575 (plus numerous commons; ask, I may have it) 1974 Topps Traded -- 330T (Juan Marichal) (plus numerous commons; ask, I probably have it) 1974 Topps team cards (one asterisk) -- Atlanta Braves, San Francisco Giants, Texas Rangers 1977 Topps -- 2, 25 1978 Topps -- 201 (plus numerous commons; please ask) 1979 Topps -- 1, 2, 24, 30, 215, 417, 524, 680 (plus numerous commons; please OBC is wonderful, Tom Elliott ================= Date: 29 Jul 2017 18:21:17 +0000 To: Subject: Friday show report From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: 30 Jul 2017 00:02:42 +0000 To: Subject: Changing my have lists to want lists - finally due to popular opinion From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 23:56:54 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Day 4 at the National From: Larry Tipton It seemed like the show was crowded all day today. Mostly I shopped for bargain cards to re supply my doubles box, but I did purchase the final (of four) Babe Ruth card 1935 Goudey (master set) from Net 54 member Don Hotz at a good price. '62 Topps football bucks, more hits 33 and 34 Goudey baseball, also more non sports hits today as well. I got one free autograph Ron Dayne but the autograph area was really too busy today to attempt more. The snack bar food was awful. We all had a great time after the show at the OBC Swap session. The plan is a 1/2 day at the show tomorrow and fly home with a 6pm departure! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:56:18 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Thanks , Subject: National Report and Thanks From: Mike Mackie Hi everyone: It was a fantastic two days at National, hanging out withthe gang and pursuing cardboard. Thecamaraderie and spirit of this group never ceases to amaze me, and the OBCexperience is by far the best part of any card show or National =E2=A6 even if I wereto find an authentic 1952 Mantle in a bargain bin (though it would be a close call). For those of you who have never attendedNational, I strongly encourage you to do your best to makeCleveland next year. I did not complete any sets this year despite heading intothe show with four priority sets in the 5 and under list. But I did make substantial progress on anumber of sets (I counted 46 sets with posted wantlists that had at least onehit this weekend) thanks to handshakes and purchases. It will take me awhile to update my wantlistsbut I want to take this opportunity to give thanks for all the greathandshakes. I apologize now if Imissedanyone in my thank you below: JOEADRIANCE: A 1959 Fleer and a 1961 Post BOBBANNON: Two type-card hits: A 1978 Tastee =E2=93Freez andan iron-on of BillFreehan (I=E2=99ll have to research what set it is) JASONCHRISTOPHERSON: A bunch of hits for myson Daniel=E2=99s Brewers JOHNDAHMS: A trio of 1971 Coins. Sorry I didn=E2=99t have a chance to see you inperson DOUGDEJONG: A trio of 1976 Kelloggs: Yaz,Stargell, and Munson. RICHARDDINGMAN: I marked that you gave mehandshake, but darned if I can find what it was! SALDOMINO: A 1951 Redback of Warren Spahn(leaves me just Yogi to finish the set), a 1952 Bowman, and WonderBreadfootball plus three variations of his personal Turn Back The Clock card LARRYGERSBACH: A father and son hit. A 1949 Bowman for me, a pair of 1978 Brewersfor Daniel SPIKEGLIDDEN: Three 1961 Posts, two 1947-66 Exhibits, and a partridgein a pear tree. That partridge took theform of his game-used 2017 personal card, with parts of a Thurman Munson batembedded. Cool! KENTGOTO: A 1960 Leaf TOMHOUSLEY: Several 1974 Football hits EDHUTCHINSON: A 1965 Golden Ugly (only sixto go on that one) plus a 2016-17 series one Upper Deck Hockey (sorry for theUV reference) GARYMANDELL: Another father and son. A few 1970s football for me and severalBrewers hits for Daniel KENMORGANTI: Treated us to dinner Fridaynight after the show MIKEMROZ: Some 1974 Topps Football NICKPELLETIER: Several 1974 Topps Football RONPERRY: A pair of 1952 US Presidents aswell as a 1979 Hostess. Sorry I didn=E2=99tget to see you in person this time. MIKERICH: A bunch of 1970s Football and a1979 Hostess STEVERITTENBERG: A pair of 1949 Bowmans, five1947-66 Exhibits, and a Brewers Barrelman sticker MIKERUMLEY-WELLS: A 1960 Leaf TAYLORSCHOCK: 30-some 1970s football and three1963 Topps upgrades AARONSHIRLEY: Several 1971 Scratchoffs and a1978 Hostess MARKTALBOT: A half dozen 1939-46 Exhibits SAM TAYLOR: A half dozen 1970s football GURU: A 1961 Post Willie Mays TJVALACAK: A 1956 Flags of the World andabout ten 1970s Football GEORGEVRECHEK: A T218, a 1970 Kelloggs, and apair of 1971 Scratchoffs GENOWAGNER: A 1933 Goudey of Jim Elliott anda vintage Chance Vought F7U-EP Cutlass Navy plane card (not sure of the year) MACWUBBEN: A 1935 Diamond Star of PieTraynor! I am sohonored to be a part of this group.Thank you everyone who was part of my National experience. Happy collecting to all and I=E2=99m planning tobe in Cleveland next summer. Mike Mackie ================= Date: 30 Jul 2017 20:38:21 +0000 To: Subject: My National Report From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 16:01:38 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Natty report From: OBC Nick P Wow, what a national? Haven't had much time for a recap like this but right now, I'm a captive writer, on the ride home from Chicago land so here comes most of it. The "national" started for me on Friday July 21st. My ride picked me up and we drive to Nashville.....because nothing is on the road to Chicago, fromMinneapolis, like Nashville. (See travel reports from strongsville 2016 or2017)We hit a show down there. It was HOT! Shiny cards and 91 degrees inside the hall. After the show we packed up and headed north. We spent the night somewhere in northern Indiana at one of the most uselesshotels I've ever found. No elevators and air conditioners that are reallygood at making noise but not cooling anything or even moving air. From Indiana it was a short trip to a show in the south burbs or Chicago. Decent show but it was largely packed up by noon. From there it was a thirty minute drive to the rosemount area. Monday was an R&R day. Tuesday is help a couple dealer friends get into the show to set up. I didsome shopping. Decent day. Wednesday I did the bulk of my shopping finding some goodies but I don't remember much of any of them just yet. Wednesday after the show I flew home to tend to a family matter. I had presumed my national over. Friday night things were looking optimistic and I returned home. While I was in the shower Katie, my wife, took it on herselfand booked me an Oh-dark-thirty flight back to Chicago. And the national was back on. I'm not sure if she was trying to get rid of me or to find mea I really didn't find anything in my strolls through the show Saturday. It was depressing for the lack of progress on the lists but encouraging for the wallet not being depleted. I'm not sure I spent $30 on cards to bring home. From the swap session.....I was there. I really can't say more than that. I was there and yes I was sober. For details you'll need to check other posts. It was a long week and I don't remember too much about it. Sorry! If that wasn't bad enough, Sunday I bought a couple four in one football cards and that's it. Less than $10. I did get a couple boxes to bring home and dig through but who really knows. I've been on the ride home for a couple hours now. Yes I'm on the road, not flying. No, I am Not driving. The roads are safer because of it. All in all it was a good national. It was far from my best national experience but it was still the national. Cleveland 3018!!!!!!! Nick Pelletier ================= To: , Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 17:13:36 -0500 Subject: Group Photos of Record Turnout From: "George Vrechek" You'll have to imagine what some of the guys in the back of the back row looked like, but you were there as well we know. George Vrechek ================= Date: 31 Jul 2017 02:19:13 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Group Photos of Record Turnout From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 21:40:16 -0500 To: Patrick Prickett Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Natty report From: OBC Nick P Damn fat fingers. Nick Pelletier > On Jul 30, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Patrick Prickett > Nick - I certainly HOPE to join you at the Nationals in Cleveland in 3018!!!!!! > If we're there ... I'm buying the first round and we can tell tales of yore > Patrick > On Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:01 PM, "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Wow, what a national? > Haven't had much time for a recap like this but right now, I'm a captive writer, on the ride home from Chicago land so here comes most of it. > The "national" started for me on Friday July 21st. My ride picked me up and we drive to Nashville.....because nothing is on the road to Chicago, from Minneapolis, like Nashville. (See travel reports from strongsville 2016 or 2017)We hit a show down there. It was HOT! Shiny cards and 91 degrees inside the hall. After the show we packed up and headed north. > We spent the night somewhere in northern Indiana at one of the most useless hotels I've ever found. No elevators and air conditioners that are really good at making noise but not cooling anything or even moving air. From Indiana it was a short trip to a show in the south burbs or Chicago. Decent show but it was largely packed up by noon. > From there it was a thirty minute drive to the rosemount area. Monday was an R&R day. > Tuesday is help a couple dealer friends get into the show to set up. I did some shopping. Decent day. > Wednesday I did the bulk of my shopping finding some goodies but I don't remember much of any of them just yet. > Wednesday after the show I flew home to tend to a family matter. I had presumed my national over. Friday night things were looking optimistic and Ireturned home. While I was in the shower Katie, my wife, took it on herself and booked me an Oh-dark-thirty flight back to Chicago. And the national was back on. I'm not sure if she was trying to get rid of me or to find me a distraction. > I really didn't find anything in my strolls through the show Saturday. It was depressing for the lack of progress on the lists but encouraging for the wallet not being depleted. I'm not sure I spent $30 on cards to bring home. > From the swap session.....I was there. I really can't say more than that. I was there and yes I was sober. For details you'll need to check otherposts. It was a long week and I don't remember too much about it. Sorry! > If that wasn't bad enough, Sunday I bought a couple four in one football cards and that's it. Less than $10. I did get a couple boxes to bring home and dig through but who really knows. > I've been on the ride home for a couple hours now. Yes I'm on the road, not flying. No, I am Not driving. The roads are safer because of it. > All in all it was a good national. It was far from my best national experience but it was still the national. Cleveland 3018!!!!!!! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 09:00:30 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: National Report Day 5 From: LAWRENCE TIPTON National Report Day 5 I remember back in 2013, Sunday at the National meant BLOWOUT prices! So I was really looking forward to getting back to the show. I visited with Mikeand Doug during the hotel provided free breakfast, then said goodbye to Doug as he had to drive home. Spike, Taylor and I left for a 1/2 day at the National as we had flights to catch at ORD airport. First purchase dealer had nice stack of =E2=9964 Beatles cards and =E2=9966 Bat Laffs cards marked $1-$3 I offered to buy them all at .50c each so I added 26 cards to my doubles box. Next purchase dealer had 1961 Fleer Pirates Bold cards in NM condition $3-$4 each I said I=E2=99d buy them all at $2 and I bought all 30 cards thisis a good deal, only one hit to my list but all these are going to be upgrades. As I am pretty new to baseball exhibit cards, I texted Taylor for an assist, and I purchased both variations =E2=9947-=E2=9966 Mickey Mantle cards (batting waist up) for a decent price I was within $10 of the deal and the seller came down to my offer:) My kind of =E2=9Cmeeting in the middle=E2=9D. I also bought three other Mantle cards from him to bundle in, 2 cards 1961 Topps =E2=9CMantle Blasts 565 FT Home Run=E2=99 and also the =E2=9961 Nu Card Scoops =E2=9CMantle Hits Longest Homer=E2=9D. Picked up 20 to 30 misc hits to my lists, including a 1962 Tops football =E2=9Cbucks=E2=9D Jim Brown, then found a stack of 1935 Goudy baseball cards I had not seen all week. This was a surprise all morning for me, how do I spend five full days at the National, and on day five I am seeing new cards? I picked up three more big hits too my 1935 Goudey master set including two with more rare backs! I had to come off my wallet a bit for these, but I think I got a fair deal. Last purchase. All week I have been watching a near set 1971 basketball near set 1971 =E2=9CTopps Trio=E2=9D basketball cards. These are the sticker cards, black borders, in three card panels. Only missing one of the short printed ABA Team Logos sheet #24A, other than this one, all others arethere. Maravich, Big O, Alcinder, Wilt, Barry, West. A quick price check on eBay shows a few singles selling for $6-$8 many above $10 each. So I thought $5 each would be a good buy for me and I offered $125 dealers lowest price all week was $160. The dealer said his rock bottom price was $140 and Ithink he said this is what he had in the set. So I bought them for $140 or$5.60 a card. I have been wanting to start this set for awhile anyway. So by noon we were done, and Taylor dropped us off at ORD. I am VERY happy to report that when I checked in on the American Airlines App, I got the TSA Pre Check, and was through security within ten minutes. I did have to kill five plus hours as my flight home was delayed but between a nice lunch and watching the NASCAR race the time went pretty fast. On the aircraft, I was the only passenger in my row, and looked at baseball cards all the way home! ================= Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 09:22:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver, 2000-1976 Topps From: chris tripler Anyone currently in the midst of a secret '76 x9 project? Thinking of starting Well, have I got a bargain for you! I'm continuing my quest to pare down inanticipation of our big move. So, if you're in the market for a couple 800count bricks of '76s (mostly commons but there might be a few stars in there). Then, drop me a line. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 31 Jul 2017 19:03:45 +0000 To: Subject: Non-National Waiver Wire - 3 From: rangersteve7@optonline.net ================= Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:52:26 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Waivers: 1978 Olde Cards (7) From: Matthew Glidden Got these at Kurt's National table and didn't find a taker at the show: would anyone like the lot of them? 4 5 7 8 12 13 15 17 19 Wilhelm ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Matthew Glidden Date: Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:45 AM Subject: Waivers: 1978 Olde Cards (7) To: national Got these from Jerry's table and they're up for grabs as singles or starter set. It's a Minnesota regional set that was sold to fan by the Twins. 4 5 7 8 12 13 17 ================= Date: 31 Jul 2017 23:43:49 +0000 To: Subject: Post-National waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com