================= Date: 01 Apr 2017 03:55:03 +0000 To: Subject: 1978 Tastee Freez Discs available From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 01 Apr 2017 14:16:40 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Deans has flooded evilbay From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 07:23:28 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1960 Leaf Lot of 10 High Numbers 88 122 123 127 129 132 135 136 139 143 VG - EX From: Rick Just pulled the trigger on these anyone want to split this lot I need 88-129-136. For $6.50 a card didn't know if I had time to ask before someone bought them. Lmk if you need one or all Rick View item: 1960 Leaf Lot of 10 High Numbers 88 122 123 127 129 132 135 136 139 143 VG - End Time: Apr 1, 2017, 7:07:44 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 08:00:47 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Leaf Lot of 10 High Numbers 88 122 123 127 129 132 135 136 139 143 VG - EX From: Rick These are all gone Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2017, at 7:23 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Just pulled the trigger on these anyone want to split this lot I need 88-129-136. For $6.50 a card didn't know if I had time to ask before someone bought them. Lmk if you need one or all Rick > View item: > 1960 Leaf Lot of 10 High Numbers 88 122 123 127 129 132 135 136 139 143 VG - EX > End Time: Apr 1, 2017, 7:07:44 AM PDT > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:04:45 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: OBC Certified Dealer Request: Alan Miley From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Several months ago, Alan Miley was given permission to post on the OBC Virtual Card Store. The thought was that if he made some sales, he might get the needed recommendations to become OBC Certified. So I need four other OBC members to recommend Alan Miley for OBC Certified Dealer. Please contact me via private email if you recommend Alan Miley for OBC Certified Dealer. I will then forward the recommendations to the OBCAC. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 13:36:10 -0400 Subject: Grading Services From: Don Rice Looking for thoughts on grading services. I know this was discussed ad nauseam recently, but couldn't find the conclusions in the archives. So please don't kill this, rather simply share the conclusions? My significant other has been pestering for a very long time to sell some cards she bought back in the 80s for "investment purposes." Specifically, it's the distinctly non-OBC Jordan rookie and such. I am finally succumbing to her not so subtle pressure, but have never myself submitted a card for grading. My understanding is that for resale, PSA is the way to go. I visited their site and boy, I was blown away by the cost! It seems like they really want you to be a "member" to make it worthwhile. Anyhoo, is PSA the way to go in this instance? If I have to be a member, I may end up submitting some of my 1950s stuff, but this is primarily for resale of significantly less vintage material for my s.o. Thanks for the free advice! Don Rice ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 18:53:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Grading Services From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: 01 Apr 2017 20:06:08 +0000 To: Subject: Waivers - T29 Hassan Animals From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 16:12:28 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Virtual Card Store From: Jake Brewer Where is it? How can I look at it? I may have asked this before, but I can't figure out how to access the OBC virtual card store. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -Jake "The Kid" Brewer ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 16:31:02 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waivers - T29 Hassan Animals From: Mike Glasser The T29's have been claimed. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 1, 2017 4:06 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Waivers - T29 Hassan Animals Before I put these on ebay - does anyone want these? I have African Jumping Hare, African Wild Ass, Arabian Thorny-Tailed Lizard, Baboon, Cape Hunting Dog, Civet Cat, Dorcas Gazelle, Hartebeest, Hippo, Jabiru, Kudu, Laland's Dog, Mandrill, Okapi, Orangutan, Porcupine, Striped Hyena, FCFS address please. Mike Glasser ================= Date: 01 Apr 2017 21:55:22 +0000 To: Subject: Re: 1962 Topps Green Tints From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 23:17:26 +0000 Subject: A big new idea From: Aaron Shirley I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things tothe next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it. So I've decided I'm not going to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give themto various charities, like Wes Shepard's inner city kid collector project. In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postage I'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen. The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raise yearly dues to cover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several of them and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conduct into by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics. So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! Don't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for thisendeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to the shed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornings. Open to your input. Let's make this happen. Giving new meaning to "facilitator," Aaron Shirley Sent from my iPhone on April 1st ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 16:36:21 -0700 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: Rick I already don't have a job so no need for you to give up your job I'll takethis new position. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things to the next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it. > So I've decided I'm not going to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give them to various charities, like Wes Shepard's inner city kid collector project. > In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postage I'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen. > The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raise yearly dues tocover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several of them and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conductinto by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics. > So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! Don't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for this endeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to theshed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornings. > Open to your input. Let's make this happen. > Giving new meaning to "facilitator," > Aaron Shirley > Sent from my iPhone on April 1st ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 19:36:33 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Happy April Fools to you to Aaron! -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 1, 2017 7:17 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things tothe next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it. So I've decided I'm not going to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give themto various charities, like Wes Shepard's inner city kid collector project. In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postage I'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen. The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raise yearly dues to cover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several of them and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conduct into by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics. So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! Don't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for thisendeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to the shed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornings. Open to your input. Let's make this happen. Giving new meaning to "facilitator," Aaron Shirley Sent from my iPhone on April 1st ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 18:37:38 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: t j valacak Content-Disposition: inline Happy April Fools to you too! TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-04-01 6:19:30 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things tothe next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it. So I've decided I'm not going to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give themto various charities, like Wes Shepard's inner city kid collector project. In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postage I'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen. The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raise yearly dues to cover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several of them and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conduct into by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics. So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! Don't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for this endeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to the shed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornings. Open to your input. Let's make this happen. Giving new meaning to "facilitator," Aaron Shirley Sent from my iPhone on April 1st ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 16:41:25 -0700 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: John Stamper John Stamper > On Apr 1, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things to the next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it. > So I've decided I'm not going to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give them to various charities, like Wes Shepard's inner city kid collector project. > In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postage I'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen. > The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raise yearly dues tocover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several of them and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conductinto by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics. > So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! Don't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for this endeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to theshed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornings. > Open to your input. Let's make this happen. > Giving new meaning to "facilitator," > Aaron Shirley > Sent from my iPhone on April 1st ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 19:26:58 -0500 To: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool From: OBC Nick P Don't forget to mention watching the most hated commissioner in pro sports hand the sexiest trophy to a player and not some billionaire owner. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Fixed the list...still three spots to fill. If I don't get them filled, I will assign there random OBCers. OK, maybe not. Remember, you have to know absolutely nothing about hockey...just a way to get cards moving and root for a team! In fact, if you know nothing about hockey, this is your chance to watch the greatest playoffs in any sport and learn what icing is! > Wagner > Mead > Gray > Glasser > Kilbourn > Sankner > Stamper > Freedman > Huthinson > Pelletier > Covello > Lindholme > Talbot > Take Care, > Geno > From: Geno Wagner > To: Geno Wagner ; OBC Ramblings > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:25 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool > Three spots left...all the cool kids are doing it!! > Wagner > Holland > Gray > Glasser > Kilbourn > Sankner > Stamper > Freedman > Huthinson > Pelletier > Covello > Lindholme > Talbot > From: Geno Wagner > To: Geno Wagner ; OBC Ramblings > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool > OK, I could use six more players...next six are in! Here's who I have: > Wagner > Holland > Gray > Glasser > Kilbourn > Sankner > Stamper > Freedman > Huthinson > Pelletier > From: "Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:14 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool > Fellas -- > I've been trying to come up with the best format for a hockey pool. The two goals are 1) to get cards moving around, and 2) not have anybody "out" early. So I thought the best way to do it, is to use a random number generator to assign you a team/opponents in each round. So let's say we have 16guys playing, we'd each be assigned a team, and your opponent would be obvious. In the second round, I'll randomize it again, so you'd probably get a new team, and you'd have two opponents. If you won, you'd have two guys sending you cards, if you lose, you send out two. In the third round of the playoffs, you would be assigned a new (or maybe not) team, and it would be four opponents against you. For the Stanley Cup Finals, I think eight opponents is too many, so I'd cut it in half and you'd still have four. Doesany of that make sense? The big thing is to keep everybody interested, spread the teams around (I mean, how many Flames fans are there if we got to pick our own), and get some cards moving around! > Let me know if you're interested in playing. > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 20:42:39 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool From: Steve Boy you got that right, I can't stand Gary Bettman at all. He stole a year's worth of hockey from us fans and that is something that still irritates me to no end. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2017, at 8:26 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Geno- > Don't forget to mention watching the most hated commissioner in pro sports hand the sexiest trophy to a player and not some billionaire owner. > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com >> On Apr 1, 2017, at 6:49 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Fixed the list...still three spots to fill. If I don't get them filled,I will assign there random OBCers. OK, maybe not. Remember, you have to know absolutely nothing about hockey...just a way to get cards moving and root for a team! In fact, if you know nothing about hockey, this is your chance to watch the greatest playoffs in any sport and learn what icing is! >> Wagner >> Mead >> Gray >> Glasser >> Kilbourn >> Sankner >> Stamper >> Freedman >> Huthinson >> Pelletier >> Covello >> Lindholme >> Talbot >> Take Care, >> Geno >> From: Geno Wagner >> To: Geno Wagner ; OBC Ramblings >> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool >> Three spots left...all the cool kids are doing it!! >> Wagner >> Holland >> Gray >> Glasser >> Kilbourn >> Sankner >> Stamper >> Freedman >> Huthinson >> Pelletier >> Covello >> Lindholme >> Talbot >> From: Geno Wagner >> To: Geno Wagner ; OBC Ramblings >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool >> OK, I could use six more players...next six are in! Here's who I have: >> Wagner >> Holland >> Gray >> Glasser >> Kilbourn >> Sankner >> Stamper >> Freedman >> Huthinson >> Pelletier >> From: "Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> To: OBC Ramblings >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 6:14 AM >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Stanley Cup Playoff Pool >> Fellas -- >> I've been trying to come up with the best format for a hockey pool. Thetwo goals are 1) to get cards moving around, and 2) not have anybody "out"early. So I thought the best way to do it, is to use a random number generator to assign you a team/opponents in each round. So let's say we have 16 guys playing, we'd each be assigned a team, and your opponent would be obvious. In the second round, I'll randomize it again, so you'd probably geta new team, and you'd have two opponents. If you won, you'd have two guyssending you cards, if you lose, you send out two. In the third round of the playoffs, you would be assigned a new (or maybe not) team, and it would be four opponents against you. For the Stanley Cup Finals, I think eight opponents is too many, so I'd cut it in half and you'd still have four. Does any of that make sense? The big thing is to keep everybody interested, spread the teams around (I mean, how many Flames fans are there if we got topick our own), and get some cards moving around! >> Let me know if you're interested in playing. >> Take Care, >> Geno ================= Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 21:33:03 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: Ken M Aaron,  I'm so glad you've decided to tackle this endeavor! I really need to clear out some space in my cellar if I ever want to put in that hot tub and candlepin bowling alley. As soon as I send off this email, I'll start packing up my dupes. I figure even the freight shipping on all of them will run into the hundreds, so I'll just toss out the kids' car seats and truck them over to Centralia myself. I'll only ask the AC to put me in for gas money to and from plus tolls on the Masspike, NY Thruway and Ohio Turnpike. I'm sure you can reimburse the treasury with the money you make from selling them, even though the huge majority of them are from 1981-1995. See you in a week or so! Ken M - Happy April Fools Day to everyone! Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Apr 1, 2017 7:17 PMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things to the next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it.So I've decided I'm not going to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give them to various charities, like Wes Shepard's inner city kid collector project.In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postag e I'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen.The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raise yearly dues to cover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several of them and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conduct into by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics.So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! Don't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for this endeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to the shed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornin ================= To: Ken M Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 02:33:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 08:11:24 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: OBC Yahoo Groups From: LAWRENCE TIPTON When I go to the Yahoo Groups home page. On the left edge it shows the groups I am subscribed to. I was (am) the =E2=9Cmanager=E2=9D for a few of the groups, and there use to be a small crown icon to show which groups Imanaged. All those crown icons are gone. I think I was manager for the OBCVirtual card store, and I could easily send Kid Brewer an invitation to join the group. But there are no crown icons by the OBC Virtual card store, and I can=E2=99t send him an invitation. Does anybody know what happened? ================= Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2017 09:57:23 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Yahoo Groups From: Ken M Guru,  I just went there on my phone (I requested the desktop site instead of the crummy mobile version) and all the crown icons were there for me (for the groups I moderate or own). Might be on your end. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 8:11 AMTo: obc Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] OBC Yahoo Groups When I go to the Yahoo Groups home page. On the left edge it shows the groups I am subscribed to. I was (am) the “manager” for a few of the groups, and there use to be a small crown icon to show which groups I managed. All those crown icons are gone. I think I was manager for the OBC Virtual card store, and I could easily send Kid Brewer an invitation to join the group. But there are no crown icons by the OBC Virtual card store, and I can’t send him an invitation.Does anybody know what happened?Guru------------------------------------Posted by: LAWRENCE TIPTON ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 10:04:24 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea From: Yahoo I think this is a great idea Aaron, I have a large box truck so I was thinking of making a cross country collection trip. I will stop at everyone's house pick up all there dupes vintage and UV and bring it all too your house. This will keep the shipping cost down and I will be able to cross the trip off my bucket list. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 1, 2017, at 21:33, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Aaron, > I'm so glad you've decided to tackle this endeavor! I really need to clear out some space in my cellar if I ever want to put in that hot tub and candlepin bowling alley. As soon as I send off this email, I'll start packing up my dupes. I figure even the freight shipping on all of them will run into the hundreds, so I'll just toss out the kids' car seats and truck them over to Centralia myself. I'll only ask the AC to put me in for gas money to and from plus tolls on the Masspike, NY Thruway and Ohio Turnpike. I'm sure you can reimburse the treasury with the money you make from selling them, even though the huge majority of them are from 1981-1995. See you in a week or so! > Ken M - Happy April Fools Day to everyone! > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Apr 1, 2017 7:17 PM > To: obc-ra mblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] A big new idea > I've always tried to come up with new ideas for OBC, to help take things to the next level. So here's the latest one, and it will certainly take some work, but it's got merit if you all get behind it.So I've decided I'm notgoing to collect cards any more. But instead of just getting out of cards and OBC altogether, I'm asking you to ALL send me ALL your dupes, and I will simply become a hub. Dupe Central, if you will. I will then send out whatever cards I can to the group members, and in those instances where there is enough unwanted excess, after several attempts to send stuff to members, I will sell them for the group account, or give them to various charities, like Wes Shepard's in > ner city kid collector project.In exchange for this, I'm asking for a modest salary - since this will undoubtedly become a full-time endeavor. Something in the 40K range, since I still have 3 kids at home. I'm used to doing okay on very little, as a minister. And don't worry about all the postageI'll need. I have a virtually unlimited supply of vintage stamps, as many of you have seen.The Advisory Committee will probably have to vote to raiseyearly dues to cover my salary and expenses, but I've talked to several ofthem and they seem to see the vision of where I'm going with this. As a matter of procedure, this will also probably take a complete rewrite of the rules of conduct into by-laws since this will become a business with an employee, but I have faith in the AC to handle the details and logistics.So once that is voted on and approved, just send me your dupes! All of them! D > on't be shy. I will probably need a few months to get the incoming hundreds of cases of cards organized. My wife has said she's so happy I'm getting rid of my cards that I could have the mower shed and the garage for thisendeavor. In fact, she's already taken the spare twin mattress out to the shed for me to sleep on. Might need a space heater as it's still a little chilly in the mornings.Open to your input. Let's make this happen.Giving newmeaning to "facilitator,"Aaron Shirley Sent from my iPhone on April 1st------------------------------------Posted by: Aaron Shirley ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:58:15 +0000 Subject: OPENING DAY & O-PEE-CHEE! From: Aaron Shirley The season will start as I'm typing this... woohoo! I've been talking for some time about OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE. Here is the link! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_NtPsH4c8n5BdMuQCNwvWEbO75wHnfu5b6fVH7edPnw/edit?uspsharing What is this, you might ask? Well, OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE is the place for all of OBC to contribute to live, editable, shared CANADIAN CARD wantlists. Keep in mind, this is for all things Canada: - ALL O-PEE-CHEE CARDS OF ANY SPORT, but also... - ALL OTHER CANADIAN-PRODUCED CARDS, and, if you wish... - ALL OTHER CARD ISSUES PERTAINING SPECIFICALLY TO CANADIAN LEAGUES (CFL football cards, for instance) So just add whatever wantlists you have from within that niche, and dig outwhatever dupes you have as well. Then if you pull something for someone, you can double-click to edit the list yourself, to reflect what you're sending out. But please be careful! If you make a mistake, simply hit the UNDO button on the Google Sheets interface. It's the left-pointing arrow next to the printer icon. And even if you can't hit the ground running today, the lists will still belive for several weeks, so join us when you can! I will be performing regular maintenance on the spreadsheet throughout at least April, so let me know if you have any questions or major issues you need help with. HERE IS THE LINK AGAIN in case you missed it. Vive le OPC! ================= Date: 02 Apr 2017 19:48:19 +0000 To: Subject: 1932 & 1936 Olympic Photos From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:20:47 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1932 & 1936 Olympic Photos From: Anson Whaley Mike, I believe the Olympics sets you are referring to are Reemtsma sets. Reemtsma was the biggest (or one of the biggest) cigarette companies in Europe. If you search using that name, you will find more info. I can answer some questions about that set as well. Regarding the Sanella cards, note that they are not skip-numbered. It is true that some numbers appear missing and some numbers appear on more than one card. However, those are the page numbers in the Sanella album where they are to go. Some pages, I believe, do not have any pictures (which accounts for the missing numbers). And some pages have more than one picture (explaining the double numbers). There are also a few different types of backs. Some show the page numbers and others don't. I have a near set of these and many dupes (as evidenced by my recent waivers!). I also have a printed checklist and will likely get it up on my site soon. 'Cap' Anson On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 3:48 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I am looking for info on the above sets. Ed Pike and George are likely my > best bests, but if anyone has info on some German issues of 1932 & > 1936 Olympic photos, I would appreciate it. I went on line and saw some > interesting blue books (albums) that might have been made for these photos, > but they were inconsistent with how many are in the "set", and no > checklists were to be found. Photos come as black & white and some in > color. Sizes vary from 4 to a page & 2 to a page. Mainly summer Olympics, > but some winter sports as well. Lots of photos of what looks like > politicians, which may be Olympic officials. Could be portraits of > athletes. Cards are in German, so I cannot read the backs. I do have some > dupes to swap, once I know what I am looking for. > I finally added my have list of 1932 Sanella to my multi-sport list. I > have 39 of the 112. Weird set that is skip numbered 3-117, with some > numbers used twice and best yet, some cards are unnumbered, but due to an > album are "assigned" card numbers. This includes the Babe Ruth unnumbered > but is #83. > Once I get info to list the Olympic cards, combined with the Sanella, will > add over 100 cards to my vintage sports count, unless George determines > these are "not cards". > Mike Rich ================= Date: 02 Apr 2017 22:55:02 +0000 To: Subject: 1962 Topps green tints - revised photos uploaded From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 19:55:07 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re: 1962 Topps green tints - revised photos uploaded From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Great work Tom, and really a great resource for ALL collectors! My =E2=9Cgreenie=E2=9D journey is almost over. Ebay just makes it SO easy, especially with a 10X eBay bucks promotion in progress. I used your side by side pictures to confirm purchases, but I mostly looked for the cropping differences. When I couldn=E2=99t tell (using the cropping differences) I compared more the grain of the wood borders rather than the color. I had quite a few of them already, and I had all of the =E2=9Cgreenies=E2=9D that had a different picture (except Wally Moon). I bought most of them from these eBay sellers: mantlerulz siriussportsauctions and battersbox (the normal guys LOL). I only need two greenies #140 (Gehrig and Ruth) and #141 (Twilight Years) another Ruth =E2=9CSpecial=E2=9D. I can=E2=99t imagine the =E2=9Ceye-strain=E2=9D from digging through a bargain box looking for =E2=9Cgreenies=E2=9D. Thanks again for the effort Tom! ================= Date: 02 Apr 2017 23:58:41 +0000 To: Subject: Quick Waiver From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 20:16:22 -0400 To: Tom Housely Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps green tints - revised photos uploaded From: "Thomas W. Billing" Great job with this mega task. When I put my green vs. non-greenies set together way back when, it was your pairs of scans that made it much easier. Now with the labeling, it would be even easier. One thing I might have added is on #196 Hall that one version has a gap in the upper left between the tree and border and the other does not. That really helped me in findingthis one. I am always mystified by these as I got both versions of some in the same display box from my local store. I noticed the pose guys and kept both back then. Who knows how many tacky-tacky ones I traded off not knowing. Keep up the good work. Thanks again for your efforts. Tom Billing > On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:55 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Happy baseball season to all! > After the recent discussion about the 1962 greenies came up, I figured I'd update my original side-by-side pictures - only this time with annotations added, both in text and with highlight circles showing cropping differences. > I also added the variation to card #192 (checklist 3). So, that scan has the greenie (with comma), and two versions of the corrected card. > I re-uploaded them to the same Flickr page that is listed in our Library page (I'll remove the old ones), but I also uploaded all of them into a box.com folder, so anyone with the link can download specific pics. Of course you can always download from Flickr too, but I thought I'd give everybody another option. The link to the box.com folder is: > https://app.box.com/s/lmfzpdb30isiw5hoi40nd15ta004c9l3 > FYI, I noticed, using Google Chrome, that left-clicking on the link to the Green Tints on our Library page results in....nothing happening. Don't know what kind of bug that is - but the workaround is to right click & open in a new tab. > With Strongsville & the National coming soon, now's the time to double-check the scans vs. your '62's....and come to the Green side! > Tom H. ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:16:10 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Long Island National Next Weekend 4/8-4/9 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Any of our Long Island folks going to be headed down to Hofstra next Saturday? I can usually get Kevin to go. How about some of our other Islanders? http://www.nyshows.org/hofstra-baseball-card-show/ Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 22:15:33 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Home from vacation/Opening Day ramble From: joe8941@aol.com Hey fellas, just a quick note to wish everyone a happy baseball season and to let you know I was out of town for the last 2 plus weeks so behind on a bunch of thanks(huge stack of OBC envelopes waiting for me) and have NCAA winnings to send out. The mail on the doorstep tonight definitely cheered me up after having about $40 dollars worth of cured meats from Spain and France confiscated at the airport. Who knew there was a law against ham, something about being concerned about the welfare of the animals and that they don't live up to our high standards? Anyway, otherwise had a great time on vacation and heading to Nats opening day with Mac Wubben and Andy Cook tomorrow! Will get to the detailed thanks on Tuesday but there will be a set killing announcement and a new Yaz oddball I'd never seen before included... Joe Adriance Sent from AOL Mobile Mail ================= To: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2017 21:40:34 -0500 Subject: FW: Re: 1932 & 1936 Olympic Photos From: "George Vrechek" Dear Mike, I found a great site for track and field and the German cards are there, although I'm not sure the listings are complete. As indicated, there are many series. hthttp://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/tp://athleticards.com/index.html Look under Olympics 1932 and 1936. ================= Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 09:33:23 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Why the day off? From: Glenn Codere Can any of you answer this? Why do so many teams get a day off immediately after opening day? Is there a practical reason for this, or has it just become accepted practice? GlennGlenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 09:52:17 +0000 To: Glenn Codere , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Why the day off? From: Bob Donaldson In case opening day is rain or snowed out, people with opening day tickets can then use them the next day On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:34 AM Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Guys, > Can any of you answer this? Why do so many teams get a day off immediately > after opening day? Is there a practical reason for this, or has it just > become accepted practice? > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > ================= To: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 08:33:43 -0500 Subject: Exhibit card variation checklist assistance From: "George Vrechek" Don Rice helped me find several additions and corrections to my detailed list of each baseball exhibit card (1939 to 1966) and any variations - mostly involving printing information (MADE IN USA, Made in USA, PRINTED IN USA, Printed in USA). Mark Talbot also volunteered to take a look. If you have a lot of exhibits and wouldn't comparing what you have to my list, I would appreciate hearing from you and any help trying to make the list as correct as possible. I'll send you the list. If you don't find anything, that is helpful too in that it will confirm the accuracy of the list. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:14:57 -0400 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Why the day off? From: "Thomas W. Billing" I think it allows a rain makeup for the biggest crowd of the season. Today in Cincy it will rain so they can make it up tomorrow Tom Billing Sent from my iPad > On Apr 3, 2017, at 5:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Guys, > Can any of you answer this? Why do so many teams get a day off immediately after opening day? Is there a practical reason for this, or has it just become accepted practice? > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 21:29:46 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Meet up with Mike From: Anthony Hello all I was not going to the Chantilly show but ended up getting some time but had to leave early. But not until I tracked down Mike Glasser and chatted a touch. I got him tomeet uncle Dick and he went to town on the nonsport. He was kind enough tosave some 33 Indian gums for me=A4=A3 Good to meet you and hope to spend more time on our next meet. Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone ================= Date: 04 Apr 2017 01:39:50 +0000 To: Subject: Abbreviation question From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: 04 Apr 2017 01:42:12 +0000 To: Subject: Bat Wings From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: 04 Apr 2017 01:47:22 +0000 To: Subject: Link to go with my last email From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Greenies Gone From: EEK Mike Glasser just claimed the last waiver wire Green tint. They'll go out in the morning guys! Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 23:41:19 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Link to go with my last email From: Ken M Mike,  The Geronimo card you mentioned has two other notations in parenthesis: (Red) and (Blue). An educated guess would be that MC is (Multi-Colored) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Apr 3, 2017 9:47 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Link to go with my last email Here's a link to the checklist that has those examples.. http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewAllSet.cfm/sid/70078/1933-Goudey-Indian-Gum Mike Glasser ================= Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 08:44:34 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: very OBC-like auction From: Matthew Glidden There's really some of everything in this one, from bats to vintage to non-sport to newspapers. (Warning: contains Bucky Dent.) https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/52210717_baseball-memorabilia ================= Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 09:07:08 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Opening day availables From: Matthew Glidden An "ensemble" of various vintage from recent auction lot. Will try to share around from claims. Please include mailing address for fastest packing! And may your favorite team win! 1936 Goudey Wide Pens: Werber Diamond Matchbooks: Galan, Fitzsimmons, Steinbach 1947-66 Exhibits: Reiser, Spahn, Raschi, Marshall, Bill Johnson, Kiner, Gustine, Ferriss, Ed Stewart, Zarilla, Dixie Walker 1961 Topps stamps: Podres, Roebuck, Sisler 1962 Topps stamp: Lee Thomas 1964 Topps giant: 4 Bailey, 48 Yaz, 50 Brooksie 1974 Laughlin All Star Games: 38, 40, 42, 43, 44, 47, 50, 53, 56, 58, 67, 1979 Kellogg's #14 Bell ================= To: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 09:19:43 -0400 Subject: E120s or E121s to trade From: "Bob Donaldson" I am concentrating a lot of my collecting (pre-war at least) to the black and white American Caramel sets from the 1920s. Specifically, the E120 (has ornate border) which I am just starting on and need 75% of the set and the E121 (plain border) which I am down to some toughies and a few commons. I have quite a bit of pre-ware trade bait including: T cards (t205, t206) 38 Goudeys E cards Quite a bit of misc cards from my Type card collection (Zeenuts, W/T/E atc) Hey, if you have a Ruth, I might even find a W Ruth and even a Goudey Gehrig As well as Bowman/Topps And more LMK if interested in a trade. 1921 E121 WANTLIST either series of 120 or 80, or blank backed (W575-1) (High) Alexander(R arm ext), Bancroft (bat), Burkett, Cobb, Deal(dark u), Donovan, Faber (dark u), Ferguson, Foster, Gonzales, Grimes, Hawks, Heilman (Run), Jennings, Mays, Mitchell, O'Leary, Pipp, Quinn, Ruth, Sallee (glove/no glove), Sisler (th,), Stengel (B,P), Toney (both feet down), Vaughn (plain uni) Upgrades to Good (not trimmed) Collins, Coveleskie, Eppa J. Rixey, Robinson, Roth, Schalk (Bt), Southworth, Veach(folded) 1922 American Caramel E120 (Ornate Borders) (High) I HAVE Aldridge, Baker*, Bancroft, Bigbee*, Blue, Caveney, Cheeves, Cobb, Collins*, Cunningham, Devormer, Duncan, Ehmke, Fournier, Gillepsie, Griffith, Grimes, Groh, Hamilton, Henline, Hooper, WR Johnston, P Jones, S Jones*, Kelleher, Kopff, Leibold, Markle, Marquard, McCellean, Meadows, Irish Meusel*, L Miller, Mitchell, Morrison, Myers, Naylor, O'Neil, Olson, Pillette, Pipp*, Powell, Ruth, Shanks, Sheely, Shinner*, Sisler, Smith, Sothoron, Stock, Tierney*, Tobin, Toney, Uhle, Vangilder, C Walker, Ward, F Williams, K Williams, Wingo, Young* * = I have a W573 ================= Date: 04 Apr 2017 16:17:02 +0000 To: Subject: 1974 Visual Panographic American Presidents From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:51:20 -0400 To: Michael Mroz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Visual Panographic American Presidents From: Joel Freedman Hi Mike, would love to complete this set, only need these...... (3 Jefferson, 16 Lincoln) (28 Wilson, 4 Madison) also, don rice has a wantlist of this series. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, mfmroz@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I have a good starter set of these available - if anyone wants it, let me > know. Or, if you are collecting these, I will try to hit your list. > Mike Mroz ================= Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 12:48:16 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Milton Bradley football cards From: t j valacak Content-Disposition: inline Sorry for the delay on this. I had a half dozen put in a claim. John Stamper was the winner on card 92. TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-03-30 6:51:42 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Milton Bradley football cards I was filing a few cards away from my recent trip out East at the House of Cards. I picked up a few football commons, and when I checked for upgrades,I found that I have at least two of the 67 Milton Bradley footballers. Easy for me to tell as both have a little burlap showing. I have: 92 - DeLuca 124 - MacKinnon Card #92 is a dupe for me. Free for anyone who needs it. 124 is not a dupe,but I would gladly swap it out for a regular Topps version to help someoneout. Let me know ================= Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 14:23:37 -0400 To: jefreedman1@gmail.com, mfmroz@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Visual Panographic American Presidents From: Mike Glasser Hi Mike: I'll take what is left. I have a few of these but not many. I believe that they actually came in 2 card strips. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Michael Mroz Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 4, 2017 12:56 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Visual Panographic American Presidents Hi Mike, would love to complete this set, only need these...... (3 Jefferson, 16 Lincoln) (28 Wilson, 4 Madison) also, don rice has a wantlist of this series. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 12:17 PM, mfmroz@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] I have a good starter set of these available - if anyone wants it, let me know. Or, if you are collecting these, I will try to hit your list. Mike Mroz ================= Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 11:30:08 -0700 To: mfmroz@prodigy.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Visual Panographic American Presidents From: John Stamper Hi Mike I'm getting close to finishing. Any help is appreciated. Thanks John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 > On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:17 AM, mfmroz@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I have a good starter set of these available - if anyone wants it, let meknow. Or, if you are collecting these, I will try to hit your list. > Mike Mroz ================= Date: 04 Apr 2017 20:03:18 +0000 To: Subject: Milton Bradley and Renata Galasso Waivers From: miglasser@aol.com ================= To: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 16:00:42 -0500 Subject: Anyone know of websites for swimming, golf, tennis, bowling, lacrosse etc cards? From: "George Vrechek" Other than PSA or Beckett, has anyone come across any websites dedicated to cards or sets involving the "minor sports?" I have found interesting sites with checklists for boxing (http://www.americasgreatboxingcards.com/home-page.html), wrestling (http://x-titles.com/wc/index.html), Track and field (and road racing) hthttp://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/tp://athleticards.com/index.html and soccer (http://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/.) I'm looking to see if some collectors have checklisted some of the other sports for vintage cards. George Vrechek ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 23:32:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know of websites for swimming, golf, From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: "'Aaron Shirley'" , Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 19:25:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know of websites for swimming, golf, tennis, bowling, lacrosse etc cards? From: "George Vrechek" Thanks. Yes, I=E2=99ve checked their site as well and it has many, but not all, of the sets involved and you have to dig through the multi-sport sets to find cards for the sets they do list. But it might be the best bet atthe From: Aaron Shirley [mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:33 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone know of websites for swimming, golf, tennis, bowling, lacrosse etc cards? www.tradingcarddb.com has lists for Baseball, basketball, boxing, football, golf, hockey, misc sports, mma, multi-sport, non-sport, racing, soccer, tennis, wrestling. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:00 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Other than PSA or Beckett, has anyone come across any websites dedicated tocards or sets involving the =E2=9Cminor sports?=E2=9D I have found interesting sites with checklists for boxing (http://www.americasgreatboxingcards.com/home-page.html), wrestling (http://x-titles.com/wc/index.html), Track and field (and road racing) hthttp://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/tp://athleticards.com/index.html and soccer (http://cartophilic-info-exch.blogspot.com/.) I=E2=99m looking to see if some collectors have checklisted some of the other sports for vintage cards. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 21:57:29 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: Canada Month - WAIVERS From: Marshall West There's no way Mike Rich and I are the only ones with 1963 Post Cereal Canadian Football wantlists! I=E2=99m feeling kinda =E2=9CCanadian" tonight. CLAIM AWAY! 1963 POST CEREAL CANADIAN FOOTBALL WAIVERS 13 15 17 30 32 33 36 49 50 54 62 66 83 86 88 92 96 110 117 127 128 135 150 160 Marshall West ================= Date: 05 Apr 2017 12:43:38 +0000 To: Subject: MB Waivers? Maybe not MB actually From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 09:06:47 -0400 To: miglasser@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] MB Waivers? Maybe not MB actually [2 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com This appears to be 1969 Milton Bradley. If you look at lines 5 & 9 on the back, on the far right side the number 1 is in red WIHTOUT a base. If you look at the number 1's in black, you will notice they have a base. The way to distinguish 1969 from 1972 is the red one's have a base in 1972 and do not have a base in 1969. While the pricing is similar, my experience is the 1969s are more plentiful. I have the 1969 set complete and am working on the 1972 set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2017 8:43 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] MB Waivers? Maybe not MB actually [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] I assumed that these were MB but now I'm wondering. What are these? In any case, I found another pile of them and here is what I have available. Let me know what you'd like. Jim Hart, Ted Abernathy, Jose Pagan, Joe Coleman, Ray Sadecki, Jim Nash, Lindy McDaniel, Fred Klages, Ken Holtzman, Gene Oliver, Padres Nat League card, Tom Haller, Willie McCovey, Juan Marichal, Clarence Gaston, Woody Fryman(potentially claimed if these are MB), Bernie Allen. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 10:42:27 -0600 Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Canada Month - WAIVERS From: Marshall West I had 24 1963 Post Canadian Football dups to give away. I received 8 requests overnight. Amazingly enough, each of the 8 requestors will receive 3 cards that they are OK with! Perfect! I=E2=99m off to look for 8 stamps=E2=A6. Marshall West P.S. Grant (aka Johnny Canuck)- your request for card #150 might not be an =E2=9Calmost surely=E2=9D upgrade. But it might make you smile. > Begin forwarded message: > From: GRANT RAINSLEY > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Canada Month - WAIVERS > Date: April 5, 2017 at 8:43:42 AM MDT > To: Marshall West > And after thumbing through Johnny Canuck's set in progress, #150 would almost surely be an upgrade if it hasn't found a home......thanks! > Grant > From: "Rainsley Grant" > To: "Marshall West" > Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 9:06:00 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Canada Month - WAIVERS > Hey---Johnny Canuck here! I'm after them too, and would love to see 66 and 160 arrive on my doorstep! > Thanks, Grant > Grant Rainsley > 3740 Manitoba Avenue > Powell River, B.C. > Canada V8A 5A8 > From: "Marshall West marshall@marshallwest.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: "OBC-Ramblings" > Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:57:29 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Canada Month - WAIVERS > There's no way Mike Rich and I are the only ones with 1963 Post Cereal Canadian Football wantlists! > I=E2=99m feeling kinda =E2=9CCanadian" tonight. CLAIM AWAY! > 1963 POST CEREAL CANADIAN FOOTBALL WAIVERS > 13 15 17 30 32 33 36 49 50 54 62 66 83 86 88 92 96 110 117 127 128 135 150 > Marshall West ================= To: yahoogroups , Rick Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 16:31:58 +0000 Subject: Reggie as a Mariner? From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 14:03:25 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Gurus "Wauction" #6 From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #6 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) This month we are offering our first consignments! Here at Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D, we charge ZERO consignment fees, and we pay the most in the industry for your valuable collectibles! Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D pays the consigner 100% of the price realized! (100% of ZERO is ZERO) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit on how many lots you request, but you can only win one lot. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and draw the winner out of the =E2=9Csplatter=E2=9D cover that sits on top of my microwave oven. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST, with =E2=9CWauction Winners=E2=9D announced. The =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D catalog will be published on the OBC Facebook 1. 1964 Topps baseball #50 Mickey Mantle. Quickly become the most popular card in the hobby, even topping the Gretzky/McNall T206 Wagner! This card ofMickey Mantle was featured on the OBC Facebook page, and was viewed by 52 collectors, and received 12 likes and 9 comments! Card would grade P-F but Mickeys face is scribbled out, and his name on the front has been replace with 2. 1962 Topps baseball #595 Rookie Parade =E2=9CInfielders=E2=9D w EdCharles and three other floating heads. G-VG condition a really nice card! =E2=9962 high number =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D cards are on every set collectors wantlist! 3. 1950-1952 Royal Desserts baseball #17 Williard Marshall (Boston Braves).The first of two consignments this month, the card grades a solid G-VG buthas a small tear on the lower edge. Perfect for the type-card collector! 4. 1967 Topps =E2=9CPin-Ups=E2=9D #6 Mickey Mantle. This wax pack insert features the normal folds, but has a bit of tape on the back. Very light mouse damage top and bottom edges. 5. 1948 Bowman baseball #19 Tommy Henrich nicknamed =E2=9CThe Clutch=E2=9D and =E2=9CMr. Reliable=E2=9D. Played his whole career with theYanks 1937-1942 and 1946-1950 (military service WWII =E2=9943-=E2=9945). The card is perfectly centered front and rear. Very slight paper loss on the front, but has tape on all four front corners. 6. 1952 Bowman baseball #146 Leo Durocher (manager NY Giants). Baseball HOF1994 elected by the Veterans Committee. In 1963 Leo appeared on the TV show =E2=9CMr Ed=E2=9D (season 4 episode 81) =E2=9CLeo Durocher MeetsMr. Ed=E2=9D. In 1965 Leo appeared on the TV show =E2=9CThe Munsters=E2=9D (season 1 episode 29) =E2=9CHerman The Rookie=E2=9D. In both shows he played himself. This card is complete and grades G. 7. 1956 Topps baseball #10 Warren Spahn (white back). P-F condition card with round corners, cuts, scuffing, and paper loss on Warrens left eye. In other words, this card has it all! 8. 1959 Topps baseball #467 Baseball Thrills =E2=9CAaron Clubs World Series Homer=E2=9D G-VG a real nice card! Game 4 1957 World Series. In the Braves half of the 4th inning, Logan walked, and Mathews doubled him to third base. Then Aaron homered to left of Yankee pitcher Sturdivant. 9. 1963 Topps baseball #228 Rookie Stars. With Tony Oliva =E2=9964 ROY played with the Twins 1962-1976 =E2=9CTony-O=E2=9D. Ed Kranepool was akey member of the 1969 =E2=9CMiracle Mets=E2=9D. Max Alvis and Bob Bailey also appear. G condition complete card. 10. 1963 Jello baseball #169 Ernie Banks. Our final consignment is in pretty nice shape, but has some staining on the front. HOF 1977 =E2=9CMr. Cub=E2=9D =E2=9CLets play two=E2=9D ================= Date: 05 Apr 2017 21:27:07 +0000 To: Subject: Any Boston Bruins hockey collectors? Need some help on this one From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2017 18:06:41 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any Boston Bruins hockey collectors? Need some help on this one [1 Attachment] From: Steve It looks like a Bruins publicity photo given out to fans who had written a letter to Orr looking for a picture. Some teams had 8x10 publicity photos which were divided in half, a 4x5 portrait head shot along side a 4x5 actionshot. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2017, at 5:27 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] > I found this Bobby Orr picture in a stack of stuff. I think it is a team issue, but I can't find any info on it. Back is blank > Anyone have any idea? > Ed ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 03:32:03 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: More NCAA hits!! From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- Just made it home after eight days on the road, and was greeted by two envelopes from John Dahms for some NCAA debts. What a great surprise to open them and find a couple of T206 cards!! A Harry Lumley and a Bob Rhoades...yay!! JD says he's not sure how to read my list, so he hopeshe hit it. Well, he certainly did, since I didn't have Mr. Rhoades. I need to soak the Lumley, but I am pretty sure he's a Piedmont back,to add a little diversity to my collection. Anyway, my list is just that, a list of all the possible Sovereign cards. No, you can not tell which ones I already have by looking at it...but guess what? I collect them all, over and over again...so it doesn't matter! Thanks again, JD...I wasn't expecting that!! Take Care,Geno ================= Date: 05 Apr 2017 23:38:12 +0000 To: Subject: More waivers From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 10:08:44 -0400 To: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strong Arm Show From: ShoelessWes This is supreme. Awesome to know you're going Mike! Wes Shepard > On Apr 6, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Mike Mackie wrote: > Hey Wes / everyone: > Add me to the list of attending (from maybe). Barring anything unforeseen I'll be making the road trip. Who else attending will be staying in a hotel and where? I have not made reservations yet. > Mike > From: "ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: ShoelessWes > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:39 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strong Arm Show >> Updated list for Strongsville vintage show: (as of 3/21) >> Jerry Barnes >> Tom Housley >> Ed Hutchinson >> Sam Taylor >> Jimi Thayer >> Joe Denning >> Mike Rich > Wes Shepard >> John McLaughlin > Ron Perry >> Maybe attending; >> Nick Pelletier >> Mike Mackie > Wes Shepard >> On Mar 16, 2017, at 3:00 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Not to squeeze anyone too hard, but can we get a tally on members planning on attending the "Strongsville" card show near Cleveland? >> I know some of us have discussed it, but April 21,22,23 are the dates. Iplan on attending. This is a Powerful Vintage show, who is going?! >> Wes Shepard ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 10:11:13 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strong Arm Show From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Welcome aboard Mike! The OBC gathering will be on Saturday after the show in my basement. Hope to see you (and everyone else) there!! Sam Taylor On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > This is supreme. Awesome to know you're going Mike! > Wes Shepard > On Apr 6, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Mike Mackie wrote: > Hey Wes / everyone: > Add me to the list of attending (from maybe). Barring anything unforeseen > I'll be making the road trip. Who else attending will be staying in a > hotel and where? I have not made reservations yet. > Mike > ------------------------------ > *From:* "ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *To:* ShoelessWes > *Cc:* obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:39 AM > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strong Arm Show > Updated list for Strongsville vintage show: (as of 3/21) > Jerry Barnes > Tom Housley > Ed Hutchinson > Sam Taylor > Jimi Thayer > Joe Denning > Mike Rich > Wes Shepard > John McLaughlin > Ron Perry > Maybe attending; > Nick Pelletier > Mike Mackie > Wes Shepard > On Mar 16, 2017, at 3:00 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Not to squeeze anyone too hard, but can we get a tally on members planning > on attending the "Strongsville" card show near Cleveland? > I know some of us have discussed it, but April 21,22,23 are the dates. I > plan on attending. This is a Powerful Vintage show, who is going?! > Wes Shepard Sam Taylor ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 18:42:29 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: April Waivers From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- I have a few cards sitting around on my desk, waiting to go out to somebody: 1959 Topps:456 Jerry Casale548 Elmer Singleton 1972 Topps:525 Carlos May651 Reds Team681 Bobby Pfiel730 Rick Let me know what you need, and I'll get a few outbound! Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:40:39 -0500 To: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strong Arm Show From: OBC Nick P Not trying to be a wise guy-I know there is a first for everything.....I will not be able to confirm my appearance at the show until Thursday April 20or Friday the 21st. Chances are I will not be able to confirm my attendance until I am somewhere in the state of Ohio. That's the price of cheap travel. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 6, 2017, at 9:11 AM, 'Samuel E. Taylor' drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Welcome aboard Mike! The OBC gathering will be on Saturday after the showin my basement. Hope to see you (and everyone else) there!! > Sam Taylor >> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> This is supreme. Awesome to know you're going Mike! >> Wes Shepard >>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Mike Mackie wrote: >>> Hey Wes / everyone: >>> Add me to the list of attending (from maybe). Barring anything unforeseen I'll be making the road trip. Who else attending will be staying in a hotel and where? I have not made reservations yet. >>> Mike >>> From: "ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >>> To: ShoelessWes >>> Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 5:39 AM >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strong Arm Show >>>> Updated list for Strongsville vintage show: (as of 3/21) >>>> Jerry Barnes >>>> Tom Housley >>>> Ed Hutchinson >>>> Sam Taylor >>>> Jimi Thayer >>>> Joe Denning >>>> Mike Rich >>> Wes Shepard >>>> John McLaughlin >>> Ron Perry >>>> Maybe attending; >>>> Nick Pelletier >>>> Mike Mackie >>> Wes Shepard >>>> On Mar 16, 2017, at 3:00 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> Not to squeeze anyone too hard, but can we get a tally on members planning on attending the "Strongsville" card show near Cleveland? >>>> I know some of us have discussed it, but April 21,22,23 are the dates.I plan on attending. This is a Powerful Vintage show, who is going?! >>>> Wes Shepard > -- > Sam Taylor ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:47:27 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Boston show April 28-30 From: OBC Nick P I can confirm I will be in Massachusetts for the show in Wilmington MA the last weekend in April. Is anybody going to make that show? I was lucky enough to catch the hat at a hockey game. I won free round trip airfare on a smaller airline and thought what better than go to a card show. They don't even fly to O'hare. But they go to Boston! Nick Pelletier ================= Date: 06 Apr 2017 20:26:03 +0000 To: Subject: A few waivers- Non Sports and baseball From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:54:16 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Boston show April 28-30 From: Andy Huntoon I wish I was going. I really wanted to meet up with some friends and meet some new ones there. But, my friend's son's first birthday party is that weekend and I can't miss that. Have fun guys!!! Andy Huntoon On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 3:47 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I can confirm I will be in Massachusetts for the show in Wilmington MA the > last weekend in April. > Is anybody going to make that show? > I was lucky enough to catch the hat at a hockey game. I won free round > trip airfare on a smaller airline and thought what better than go to a card > show. They don't even fly to O'hare. But they go to Boston! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: "'OBC Nick P'" , Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 17:22:47 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Boston show April 28-30 From: "Bob Donaldson" I'll be there, probably Friday/early Saturday (Sox/Cubs at 4). It's a pretty good show, although a slight step down from the one in November. Should be a few more OBCers Looking forward to it From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 3:47 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Boston show April 28-30 I can confirm I will be in Massachusetts for the show in Wilmington MA the last weekend in April. Is anybody going to make that show? I was lucky enough to catch the hat at a hockey game. I won free round trip airfare on a smaller airline and thought what better than go to a card show. They don't even fly to O'hare. But they go to Boston! Nick Pelletier Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 16:08:25 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1959 1962 1967 1968 Topps Venezuelan Lot Retirado Bunning Aparicio Venezuela OBC From: Rick Good mix of Venezuelans I need some but just made a big purchase so I'm outof money or I would put in a bid. Rick View item: 1959 1962 1967 1968 Topps Venezuelan Lot Retirado Bunning Aparicio Venezuela End Time: Apr 6, 2017, 6:16:01 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 07 Apr 2017 03:37:36 +0000 To: Subject: 1904 Fan Craze Baseball Waivers From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: 07 Apr 2017 03:39:37 +0000 To: Subject: 1904 Fan Craze Waivers From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: 07 Apr 2017 03:40:42 +0000 To: Subject: Re: 1904 Fan Craze Baseball Waivers From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 09:18:22 -0400 Subject: Venezuelan Question From: "Bob Donaldson" I think it would be cool to have a Venezuelan card of my favorite player, Yaz. I saw this on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122424368634?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Is this price in the ballpark. I have a few 67 Venezuelans, including Petrocelli, but don't think I paid more than a few dollars for them. ================= Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 09:21:42 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelan Question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Seems high to me, but not surprising considering the seller. Rick Lyons isour resident Venezuelan expert. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Fri, Apr 7, 2017 9:18 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelan Question I think it would be cool to have a Venezuelan card of my favorite player, Yaz. I saw this on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122424368634?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Is this price in the ballpark. I have a few 67 Venezuelans, including Petrocelli, but don=E2=99tthink I paid more than a few dollars for them. ================= Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 06:56:26 -0700 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelan Question From: Rick Because it's toppsoholic you can figure at least double the going rate. On another note I would say the 67 mlb's are the most popular Venezuelan cardsfor collectors so expect to pay a premium for stars. I feel lucky if I canget a low grade common for $5. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 7, 2017, at 6:21 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Seems high to me, but not surprising considering the seller. Rick Lyons is our resident Venezuelan expert. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: 'OBC Ramblings' > Sent: Fri, Apr 7, 2017 9:18 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelan Question > Hi > I think it would be cool to have a Venezuelan card of my favorite player,Yaz. I saw this on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122424368634?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Is this price in the ballpark. I have a few 67 Venezuelans, including Petrocelli, but don=E2=99t think I paid more than a few dollars for them. > Thanks > Bob ================= Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:34:36 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1904 Fan Craze Waivers From: Anson Whaley Had a lot of interest in these. Our two winners were Josh Levine and T.J. Valacak. On the way to you, guys! On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:39 PM, ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Greetings, all - > I recently picked up a 1904 Fan Craze baseball game with a full set of > cards that I'm breaking up. Some are going to be sent in for grading, a few > are going into my collection, and the rest are going to be sold. But I've > decided to spread things around a little and offer a couple up for waivers. > Available are two 'Ball' cards. If you're unfamiliar with this set, these > were part of a miniature board game. They are not the 1906 issue which has > pictures of actual players. If a player drew these from the deck, that > pitch would result in a ball. Here's a link to my page about the set for > more info on them > > . > Best of all, these are in really nice shape without major flaws. If sent > in for grading they would probably earn 6s/7s, to be honest. > If more than two people are interested, I'll run a drawing on these. If > only two or less are interested, they will simply get a card per person. > The drawing will happen at 9:00 a.m. EST on Friday so if you're asking to > be in after that, you'll probably have missed it. If I've not done it by > that point, I will gladly enter you, though. > If you'd like to be in the drawing, simply shoot me an email and you're > entered. > Cheers, friends - > 'Cap' Anson ================= Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:11:34 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1904 Fan Craze Waivers From: t j valacak Content-Disposition: inline Sweet!! Thanks Cap! TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-04-07 9:36:49 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1904 Fan Craze Waivers Had a lot of interest in these. Our two winners were Josh Levine and T.J. Valacak. On the way to you, guys! On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:39 PM, ansonwhaley@gmail.com (mailto:ansonwhaley@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] > Greetings, all - > I recently picked up a 1904 Fan Craze baseball game with a full set of cards that I'm breaking up. Some are going to be sent in for grading, a few are going into my collection, and the rest are going to be sold. But I've decided to spread things around a little and offer a couple up for waivers. > Available are two 'Ball' cards. If you're unfamiliar with this set, thesewere part of a miniature board game. They are not the 1906 issue which haspictures of actual players. If a player drew these from the deck, that pitch would result in a ball. Here's a link to my page about the set for more info on them (https://prewarcards.com/2017/04/07/1904-fan-craze-set-predated-popular-1906-issues/). > Best of all, these are in really nice shape without major flaws. If sent in for grading they would probably earn 6s/7s, to be honest. > If more than two people are interested, I'll run a drawing on these. If only two or less are interested, they will simply get a card per person. Thedrawing will happen at 9:00 a.m. EST on Friday so if you're asking to be in after that, you'll probably have missed it. If I've not done it by that point, I will gladly enter you, though. > If you'd like to be in the drawing, simply shoot me an email and you're entered. > Cheers, friends - > 'Cap' Anson ================= Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 10:25:47 -0700 To: Anson Whaley , obc ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1904 Fan Craze Waivers From: wite3 ================= Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 17:17:42 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Gurus "Wauction" #6 Ends Sunday 6 AM EST (FAIR WARNING) From: LAWRENCE TIPTON FAIR WARNING Auction ends Sunday 6AM EST! The most popular item is lot #2 1962 Topps Rookie Parade. With 11 current bidders, it appears that everyone really does need these high number Rookie Parade The lot that has generated the least amount of interest is lot #1. 1964 Topps #50 Mickey Mantle (Nut Head) with just 4 current bidders. Good Luck! ================= Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 18:14:17 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gurus "Wauction" #6 Ends Sunday 6 AM EST (FAIR WARNING) From: John Stamper The 1964 "Nut Head" should be graded by GGS before being sent out! John Stamper > On Apr 7, 2017, at 5:17 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > FAIR WARNING Auction ends Sunday 6AM EST! > The most popular item is lot #2 1962 Topps Rookie Parade. With 11 currentbidders, it appears that everyone really does need these high number Rookie Parade cards. > The lot that has generated the least amount of interest is lot #1. 1964 Topps #50 Mickey Mantle (Nut Head) with just 4 current bidders. > Good Luck! > Guru ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 01:42:11 +0000 Subject: Tonight's Mets game From: Shawn Smart I don't know if anyone is watching the blowout Met game right now , but they have a monster box of mostly vintage Topps cards in the booth and Keith, Ron and Gary are going through them one by one. It's awesome! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 00:38:52 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: misc ramble From: rjsfgmv@aol.com I just wanted to ramble Today I went to the vet and put my dog to sleep. Bob, (official name Ross Youngs) was a little over 14 years old. Bob could shake hands, could not do anything else, would not go in the swimming pool. Could not do much. But Bob was the sweetest friend ever. Oh crap I miss Bob. She was a sweety. Anyhow. As I have mentioned before, you guys are pretty much the only friends I got so I wanted to ramble. My mom , my step son, and now Bob. Bob hurts the most. Not sure what that is about. Anyone got an extra 73 or 74 Bobby Bonds Card? I feel stupid but I know some of you know what I am talking about. Right when she was going under, Brandon Belt hit a grand Slam. While I was burying her Brandon Belt hit another Home Run. Then they lost. giants suck. Anyhow again, thanks for reading. Hope I am not too goofy. ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 01:24:37 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tonight's Mets game From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I tweeted to the booth that Keith was holding a 1969 Joe Foy and not a 1968. They were also saying how Foy really wasn't very good as a Met, but I also added that he stole home in a game in 1970 for them. First card pulled from the box was a 1954T and most others were UV and later 70s. They flipped them out of the broadcast booth! CLASSIC! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/7/2017 9:58:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I don't know if anyone is watching the blowout Met game right now , but they have a monster box of mostly vintage Topps cards in the booth and Keith, Ron and Gary are going through them one by one. It's awesome! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 02:21:42 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Easy Trade From: ShoelessWes Mid-Low grade, (51) cards no dupes, 1954 Bowman. Trade for whatever you canhit on my lists, Reds, or whatever. Figured I'd solicit a "trade" though itry not to make a habit of it. Anybody with 1971 Topps #265 in the mix takes priority! Wes Shepard ================= To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 14:40:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tonight's Mets game From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 10:44:04 -0400 To: rjsfgmv@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] misc ramble From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I stayed a nite at Randy's in Fresno last year on my trip. Bob was a nicefriendly and peaceful dog as opposed to Randy's other hyper dog. Many of us have lost pets, and it is often similar to losing a loved family member. You have our condolences. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 12:38 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] misc ramble I just wanted to ramble Today I went to the vet and put my dog to sleep. Bob, (official name Ross Youngs) was a little over 14 years old. Bob could shake hands, could not do anything else, would not go in the swimming pool. Could not do much. But Bob was the sweetest friend ever. Oh crap I miss Bob. She was a sweety. Anyhow. As I have mentioned before, you guys are pretty much the only friends I got so I wanted to ramble. My mom , my step son, and now Bob. Bob hurts the most. Not sure what that is Anyone got an extra 73 or 74 Bobby Bonds Card? I feel stupid but I know some of you know what I am talking about. Right when she was going under, Brandon Belt hit a grand Slam. While I was burying her Brandon Belt hit another Home Run. Then they lost. giants suck. Anyhow again, thanks for reading. Hope I am not too goofy. ================= Date: 08 Apr 2017 15:34:50 +0000 To: Subject: Re: misc ramble From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 11:41:24 -0400 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tonight's Mets game From: mikesportsfan@aol.com One of my earliest ballgame remembrances was when I was 7 1/2 and seeing myfirst place Tigers against Boston. It was August 9, 1968 and Pat Dobson started and pitched an excellent game for the Tigers (remember this was the staff of McLain and Lolich, with Earl Wilson as the #3 starter). In the 8th, with the Tigers ahead 2-1, Dobson tired and with 1 out was replaced by John Wyatt, with men on 1st and 2nd. After retiring Ken the Hawk Harrelson on a ground ball, leaving runners at 2nd and 3rd, Wyatt intentionally walked Reggie Smith, loading the bases! I was screaming in my seat, as there were 2 out. Just get the batter. Instead up walks Joe Foy. He then hit a line drive over the left field wall, a single in Fenway, but a Grand Slam atold Tigers Stadium. I was crushed! Even after a Gates Brown pinch hit home run in the bottom of the 8th, my Tigers lost 5-3. My first Grand Slam in person and it was by the hated Bosox. I never liked Joe Foy after that. His being a variation card the next year in the Deckle Edge set did not help. Thanks for making me go down this rabbit hole again. I am still scarred byit. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: ChicoD1 Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 10:41 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tonight's Mets game I know when Gary was flipping the cards out of the booth, I am thinking "what is he doing?!" I have a feeling they might keep the box around and break it out during blowouts. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2017, at 1:24 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I tweeted to the booth that Keith was holding a 1969 Joe Foy and not a 1968. They were also saying how Foy really wasn't very good as a Met, but I also added that he stole home in a game in 1970 for them. First card pulled from the box was a 1954T and most others were UV and later 70s. They flipped them out of the broadcast booth! CLASSIC! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/7/2017 9:58:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com I don't know if anyone is watching the blowout Met game right now , but they have a monster box of mostly vintage Topps cards in the booth and Keith, Ron and Gary are going through them one by one. It's awesome! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 14:27:37 -0400 Subject: 1969 Topps Football From: "Bob Donaldson" All lots have no dups, and are mostly in pretty nice shape. No big stars. 13 different g/vg/ex free 6 different - free ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 22:52:24 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Anyone have Adam Warshaw's Boxing price guide? From: Patrick Prickett Was wondering if someone could help me with the price for one boxing card. Card is a W580 James J. Corbett - BUT it is the Siam version that Adam identifies NOT the W580 strip version. I know he says these are worth more, but was interested in the price difference between the two. (I'm likely going to sell this to Adam, who is a friend of mine, but I should know what he thinks it's worth before I do that! ;-) Thanks for any help! ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 23:44:17 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: 1977-80 Sportscaster cards From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Does anyone have any 1977-80 Sportscaster cards to offer, they came in a wide range of sports from the main 4 sports to swimming, skiing and many others, I think there where over 2000 different cards issued, I have enclosed a picture of what the cards look like, if you have any please drop me a line. Thanks for checkingNick Covello ================= Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 18:01:48 -0600 (MDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Willie Horton- interesting story...... From: GRANT RAINSLEY Mike Rich's HOM'er.....good read: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/04/08/this-baseball-great-stared-down-rioters.html ================= Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 00:26:47 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tonight's Mets game From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en If it makes you feel any better, after he was traded to the Mets for Amos Otis, we hated him too! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/8/2017 11:41:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: One of my earliest ballgame remembrances was when I was 7 1/2 and seeing my first place Tigers against Boston. It was August 9, 1968 and Pat Dobson started and pitched an excellent game for the Tigers (remember this was the staff of McLain and Lolich, with Earl Wilson as the #3 starter). In the 8th, with the Tigers ahead 2-1, Dobson tired and with 1 out was replaced by John Wyatt, with men on 1st and 2nd. After retiring Ken the Hawk Harrelson on a ground ball, leaving runners at 2nd and 3rd, Wyatt intentionally walked Reggie Smith, loading the bases! I was screaming in my seat, as there were 2 out. Just get the batter. Instead up walks Joe Foy. He then hita line drive over the left field wall, a single in Fenway, but a Grand Slam at old Tigers Stadium. I was crushed! Even after a Gates Brown pinch hit home run in the bottom of the 8th, my Tigers lost 5-3. My firs t Grand Slam in person and it was by the hated Bosox. I never liked Joe Foy after that. His being a variation card the next year in the Deckle Edge set didnot Thanks for making me go down this rabbit hole again. I am still scarred by it. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: ChicoD1 Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 10:41 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tonight's Mets game I know when Gary was flipping the cards out of the booth, I am thinking "what is he doing?!" I have a feeling they might keep the box around and break it out during Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2017, at 1:24 AM, _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I tweeted to the booth that Keith was holding a 1969 Joe Foy and not a 1968. They were also saying how Foy really wasn't very good as a Met, but I also added that he stole home in a game in 1970 for them. First card pulled from the box was a 1954T and most others were UV and later 70s. They flipped them out of the broadcast booth! CLASSIC! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/7/2017 9:58:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) I don't know if anyone is watching the blowout Met game right now , but they have a monster box of mostly vintage Topps cards in the booth and Keith, Ron and Gary are going through them one by one. It's awesome! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 06:50:20 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: RESULTS Gurus "Wauction" #6 RESULTS From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Congratulations to all the winners, and stay tuned for next months =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D which will feature a 1958 Topps #47 Roger Maris (RC) 1. (James Moleta)1964 Topps baseball #50 Mickey Mantle. 2. (Dan Angland)1962 Topps baseball #595 Rookie Parade 3. (John Scott Gray) (consigned by Peter Mead)1950-1952 Royal Desserts baseball #17 Williard Marshall 4. (Mike Glasser)1967 Topps =E2=9CPin-Ups=E2=9D #6 Mickey Mantle 5. (Steve Sanker)1948 Bowman baseball #19 Tommy Henrich 6. (Doug DeJong)1952 Bowman baseball #146 Leo Durocher 7. (Brian Betza)1956 Topps baseball #10 Warren Spahn 8. (John Stamper)1959 Topps baseball #467 Baseball Thrills =E2=9CAaron Clubs World Series Homer=E2=9D 9. (Mike Rumley-Wells) 1963 Topps baseball #228 Rookie Stars 10. (Aaron Shirley)(consigned by Peter Mead) 1963 Jello baseball #169 ErnieBanks ================= Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 13:50:43 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBALL ISSUE VG-EX CONDITION From: Rob Bessette What's your guys thought on this card? Look clean to you? I don't have any experience with this set and this is one of the only ungraded ones on eBay.Looks fine to me, but like I said, I don't know a whole lot about them. I have $100 in eBay bucks. So if I can get him down a little on a best offer I may be able to get a good price. What would you expect to pay for a card like this? Look at this on eBay 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBALL ISSUE VG-EX CONDITION ================= Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 11:24:27 -0700 To: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBALL ISSUE VG-EX CONDITION From: Rick For toppsoholic that's not an outrageous asking price would of thought it would be twice that. Graded cards in this set sell real well I think mainly because some of the reprints look original. I hate this seller but I don't think he's into selling reprints and it does look good to me. I would say $250 would be the going rate for this card if real since it's not graded. Same card graded $350. If you could get it under $250 I think you would have done pretty good. Then you could send it to me and finish my set. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > What's your guys thought on this card? Look clean to you? I don't have any experience with this set and this is one of the only ungraded ones on eBay. Looks fine to me, but like I said, I don't know a whole lot about them. > I have $100 in eBay bucks. So if I can get him down a little on a best offer I may be able to get a good price. > What would you expect to pay for a card like this? > Look at this on eBay > 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBALL ISSUE VG-EX CONDITION ================= Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:12:29 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBAL... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Can someone send him the proper directions for breaking out a card from its http://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-CASE-BROKEN-IN-HALF-KEN-GRIFFEY-JR-1991-TOPPS-MI Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/9/2017 2:24:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: For toppsoholic that's not an outrageous asking price would of thought it would be twice that. Graded cards in this set sell real well I think mainly because some of the reprints look original. I hate this seller but I don't think he's into selling reprints and it does look good to me. I would say $250 would be the going rate for this card if real since it's not graded. Same card graded $350. If you could get it under $250 I think you would have done pretty good. Then you could send it to me and finish my set. Rick Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Rob Bessette _robsbessette@yahoo.com_ (mailto:robsbessette@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: What's your guys thought on this card? Look clean to you? I don't have any experience with this set and this is one of the only ungraded ones on eBay. Looks fine to me, but like I said, I don't know a whole lot about them. I have $100 in eBay bucks. So if I can get him down a little on a best offer I may be able to get a good price. What would you expect to pay for a card like this? Look at this on eBay _1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBALL ISSUE VG-EX CONDITION_ (https://www.ebay.com/itm/122083715991) ================= Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 17:19:21 -0400 To: nickcov@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977-80 Sportscaster cards [1 Attachment] From: mikesportsfan@aol.com There are well over 2000 cards in the set. They were issued in series of 24 and were numbered on the back by listing the series followed by a hyphen and then the 2 digit "card number". These were sold by subscription. The main (may be initial) subscriptions ran through series 73. At that point, most people cancelled. Therefore, cards in series 74 on up are tougherto find. The cards can also be found with "printed in ____________" on back. There were multiple countries they were printed in, such as Italy and Finland. If this sounds like I had an initial subscription of Series 1 -73, you are correct. Over the years, I have picked up about 100 dupes, and have seen them go from anywhere from $1 to $25 a piece. If anyone has any from Series 74 on up to swap, please let me know. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: yahoogroups Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 7:47 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977-80 Sportscaster cards [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Nick Covello included below] Hi Guys: Does anyone have any 1977-80 Sportscaster cards to offer, they came in a wide range of sports from the main 4 sports to swimming, skiing and many others, I think there where over 2000 different cards issued, I have enclosed apicture of what the cards look like, if you have any please drop me a line. Thanks for checking Nick Covello ================= Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:29:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE From: Ken M Part of the description reads: "We ship safe and secure." I'm thinking maybe not so much? Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Sun, Apr 9, 2017 5:12 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBAL... Can someone send him the proper directions for breaking out a card from its case? http://www.ebay.com/itm/PSA-CASE-BROKEN-IN-HALF-KEN-GRIFFEY-JR-1991-TOPPS-MICRO-BASEBALL-CARD-392-READ-/122083615546 Sal Domino OBC - 1992  In a message dated 4/9/2017 2:24:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes:  For toppsoholic that's not an outrageous asking price would of thought it would be twice that. Graded cards in this set sell real well I think mainly because some of the reprints look original. I hate this seller but I don't think he's into selling reprints and it does look good to me. I would say $250 would be the going rate for this card if real since it's not graded. Same card graded $350. If you could get it under $250 I think you would have done pretty good. Then you could send it to me and finish my set. Rick Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   What's your guys thought on this card? Look clean to you? I don't have any experience with this set and this is one of the only ungraded ones on eBay. Looks fine to me, but like I said, I don't know a whole lot about them.  I have $100 in eBay bucks. So if I can get him down a little on a best offer I may be able to get a good price.  What would you expect to pay for a card like this? Look at this on eBay 1954 RED HEART BASEBALL CARD MICKEY MANTLE VINTAGE ODDBALL ISSUE VG-EX CONDITION ================= Date: 10 Apr 2017 02:02:00 +0000 To: Subject: Rick Lyons From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 09:22:06 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: VARIATIONS From: ShoelessWes Although i am not obsessed with variations or printing defects/differences,they do intrigue me. I don't require "master set" completion to call a set"complete," but i do attempt to collect the variations or stock differences associated with the series, as long as it's not expensive. So, is or are there anyone that likes the idea of a VARIATION PAGE, or CHECKLIST, completely dedicated to variations, errors, or back differences? I for one would really appreciate something like that. Is there any literature or cataloging dedicated to variations anywhere? If not, why, and if so,where and when can i study it. Would more variation collectors in this group be a good thing for current variation collectors? If so, how can we implement this info onto our website, and when can it happen? If not, then doesanyone have a master vintage variation checklist for post war? Wes Shepard ================= Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:55:23 -0500 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VARIATIONS From: "ricktopps@aol.com" I work very hard to find variations and "errors". I think there are clear cut variations where there are cards that clearly have two different pictures or backs that Companies like Topps have chosen to put out. Examples of true variations would be cards like the 1974 Padres where some say Padres andother cards say Washington Nat'l league. Another example would be the 1959and 1966 cards where some cards mention a trade involving the player and others of the same player don't mention the trade. We would all agree to putthese cards on our list. I think the errors are so much harder to define especially when you look atprinting defects. Why is a 1967 Spiezio (incomplete name) selling for hundreds of dollars and 1968 major white blotches on Torborg and Hiller not even recognized by PSA. It seems that PSA recognizes some 1973 cards that have"broken black borders" while not recognizing others??? If you look at eBayyou see people calling cards errors or variations when the red color is actually more pink than red? I would venture to guess if we had 1000 cards ofany player from the 50's and 60's we could find some sort of little variation. That is what makes the lists either incomplete in some people's minds and ridiculously over inclusive in other people's minds. We would all agreeon the green tinted 62's but what do we do with the weird little "broken border" cards. If we all researched this it our lists would almost always bedifferent. As for me, I just pick up what grabs my attention. later today, I will posta list of what I would like to pick up when I can find them at a reasonable price. My list will strictly be what works for me and not all inclusive. Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2017, at 8:22 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Although i am not obsessed with variations or printing defects/differences, they do intrigue me. I don't require "master set" completion to call a set "complete," but i do attempt to collect the variations or stock differences associated with the series, as long as it's not expensive. > So, is or are there anyone that likes the idea of a VARIATION PAGE, or CHECKLIST, completely dedicated to variations, errors, or back differences? > I for one would really appreciate something like that. Is there any literature or cataloging dedicated to variations anywhere? If not, why, and if so, where and when can i study it. Would more variation collectors in this group be a good thing for current variation collectors? If so, how can we implement this info onto our website, and when can it happen? If not, then does anyone have a master vintage variation checklist for post war? > Wes Shepard ================= Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:30:36 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Venezuelan hits From: Rick Made a big purchase that showed up today with 20 hits to the 67 retirado set plus a couple dupes along with some 67WL,67mib,60,62,64,68,70 sets hits. These retirado have been extremely hard to get I get one every once in awhile but 20 with some of the big names in one shot didn't think that would ever happen. Off to the binders Rick ================= Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:43:20 -0400 To: "ricktopps@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VARIATIONS From: Joel Freedman I have realized collector's can not agree on the definition of a variation, thus I have concluded there will never be a master list. One just has to make their own and choose to collect what they want. At the bottom of Richard Dingman's home page there is variation list. Probably as master as it gets. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:55 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I work very hard to find variations and "errors". I think there are clear > cut variations where there are cards that clearly have two different > pictures or backs that Companies like Topps have chosen to put out. > Examples of true variations would be cards like the 1974 Padres where some > say Padres and other cards say Washington Nat'l league. Another example > would be the 1959 and 1966 cards where some cards mention a trade involving > the player and others of the same player don't mention the trade. We would > all agree to put these cards on our list. > I think the errors are so much harder to define especially when you look > at printing defects. Why is a 1967 Spiezio (incomplete name) selling for > hundreds of dollars and 1968 major white blotches on Torborg and Hiller not > even recognized by PSA. It seems that PSA recognizes some 1973 cards that > have "broken black borders" while not recognizing others??? If you look at > eBay you see people calling cards errors or variations when the red color > is actually more pink than red? I would venture to guess if we had 1000 > cards of any player from the 50's and 60's we could find some sort of > little variation. That is what makes the lists either incomplete in some > people's minds and ridiculously over inclusive in other people's minds. We > would all agree on the green tinted 62's but what do we do with the weird > little "broken border" cards. If we all researched this it our lists would > almost always be different. > As for me, I just pick up what grabs my attention. later today, I will > post a list of what I would like to pick up when I can find them at a > reasonable price. My list will strictly be what works for me and not all > inclusive. > Rick Johnson > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2017, at 8:22 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Although i am not obsessed with variations or printing > defects/differences, they do intrigue me. I don't require "master set" > completion to call a set "complete," but i do attempt to collect the > variations or stock differences associated with the series, as long as it's > not expensive. > So, is or are there anyone that likes the idea of a VARIATION PAGE, or > CHECKLIST, completely dedicated to variations, errors, or back differences? > I for one would really appreciate something like that. Is there any > literature or cataloging dedicated to variations anywhere? If not, why, and > if so, where and when can i study it. Would more variation collectors in > this group be a good thing for current variation collectors? If so, how can > we implement this info onto our website, and when can it happen? If not, > then does anyone have a master vintage variation checklist for post war? > Wes Shepard ================= To: ShoelessWes , "ricktopps@aol.com" Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:14:21 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VARIATIONS From: richard dingman Check out my web page, the bottom of which has links to my own listings of "variations". LMK if this is helpful for you. Richard D https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/ Richard Dingman Cards - Google Sites Richard Dingman's Want Lists, Trade Lists (links at page bottom), and Variation Master Lists (links at page bottom) Edited by Steegle From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:55 AM To: ShoelessWes Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VARIATIONS I work very hard to find variations and "errors". I think there are clear cut variations where there are cards that clearly have two different pictures or backs that Companies like Topps have chosen to put out. Examples of true variations would be cards like the 1974 Padres where some say Padres andother cards say Washington Nat'l league. Another example would be the 1959and 1966 cards where some cards mention a trade involving the player and others of the same player don't mention the trade. We would all agree to putthese cards on our list. I think the errors are so much harder to define especially when you look atprinting defects. Why is a 1967 Spiezio (incomplete name) selling for hundreds of dollars and 1968 major white blotches on Torborg and Hiller not even recognized by PSA. It seems that PSA recognizes some 1973 cards that have"broken black borders" while not recognizing others??? If you look at eBayyou see people calling cards errors or variations when the red color is actually more pink than red? I would venture to guess if we had 1000 cards ofany player from the 50's and 60's we could find some sort of little variation. That is what makes the lists either incomplete in some people's minds and ridiculously over inclusive in other people's minds. We would all agreeon the green tinted 62's but what do we do with the weird little "broken border" cards. If we all researched this it our lists would almost always bedifferent. As for me, I just pick up what grabs my attention. later today, I will posta list of what I would like to pick up when I can find them at a reasonable price. My list will strictly be what works for me and not all inclusive. Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2017, at 8:22 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Although i am not obsessed with variations or printing defects/differences,they do intrigue me. I don't require "master set" completion to call a set"complete," but i do attempt to collect the variations or stock differences associated with the series, as long as it's not expensive. So, is or are there anyone that likes the idea of a VARIATION PAGE, or CHECKLIST, completely dedicated to variations, errors, or back differences? I for one would really appreciate something like that. Is there any literature or cataloging dedicated to variations anywhere? If not, why, and if so,where and when can i study it. Would more variation collectors in this group be a good thing for current variation collectors? If so, how can we implement this info onto our website, and when can it happen? If not, then doesanyone have a master vintage variation checklist for post war? Wes Shepard ================= Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:57:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VARIATIONS From: JAY TYSVER I agree that people can or should determine what they feel is a variation or what they wish to collect. Having been in the print industry for a number of years, blotches or breaksin borders are common and they are found while the press is running and often fixed while other issues are occurring and the press is brought down. Sometimes, they are not even on the negative or plate but could be a piece of paper stuck on the press plate. Many times the press is not stopped for these errors unless they are egregious. But, if a press is stopped to changethe content or design of something, that means that it is a totally new version. To fix a design flaw is not necessarily a different version. To change the color plates completely would be a new version (hence green tints). I think the trading card industry would be wiser to adapt the term version,along with variation. They essentially are two different things. For example, there are two versions of the 1962 Wally Moon card or two versions of 1954 Bowman or two versions of the 1966 traded or not traded cards. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 1:43 PM To: ricktopps@aol.com Cc: ShoelessWes; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VARIATIONS I have realized collector's can not agree on the definition of a variation,thus I have concluded there will never be a master list. One just has to make their own and choose to collect what they want. At the bottom of Richard Dingman's home page there is variation list. Probably as master as it gets. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 9:55 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I work very hard to find variations and "errors". I think there are clear cut variations where there are cards that clearly have two different pictures or backs that Companies like Topps have chosen to put out. Examples of true variations would be cards like the 1974 Padres where some say Padres andother cards say Washington Nat'l league. Another example would be the 1959and 1966 cards where some cards mention a trade involving the player and others of the same player don't mention the trade. We would all agree to putthese cards on our list. I think the errors are so much harder to define especially when you look atprinting defects. Why is a 1967 Spiezio (incomplete name) selling for hundreds of dollars and 1968 major white blotches on Torborg and Hiller not even recognized by PSA. It seems that PSA recognizes some 1973 cards that have"broken black borders" while not recognizing others??? If you look at eBayyou see people calling cards errors or variations when the red color is actually more pink than red? I would venture to guess if we had 1000 cards ofany player from the 50's and 60's we could find some sort of little variation. That is what makes the lists either incomplete in some people's minds and ridiculously over inclusive in other people's minds. We would all agreeon the green tinted 62's but what do we do with the weird little "broken border" cards. If we all researched this it our lists would almost always bedifferent. As for me, I just pick up what grabs my attention. later today, I will posta list of what I would like to pick up when I can find them at a reasonable price. My list will strictly be what works for me and not all inclusive. Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2017, at 8:22 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Although i am not obsessed with variations or printing defects/differences,they do intrigue me. I don't require "master set" completion to call a set"complete," but i do attempt to collect the variations or stock differences associated with the series, as long as it's not expensive. So, is or are there anyone that likes the idea of a VARIATION PAGE, or CHECKLIST, completely dedicated to variations, errors, or back differences? I for one would really appreciate something like that. Is there any literature or cataloging dedicated to variations anywhere? If not, why, and if so,where and when can i study it. Would more variation collectors in this group be a good thing for current variation collectors? If so, how can we implement this info onto our website, and when can it happen? If not, then doesanyone have a master vintage variation checklist for post war? Wes Shepard ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:06:01 -0500 Subject: Re: VARIATIONS From: "George Vrechek" FYI An update to Gilkerson's 1989 "magnum opus" on variations is in progress by Mike Cady with my input. The scope is variations and "significant" printing differences. If something got goofed up in the process of printing and isn't "significant" it isn't being listed. The change has to be in the pre-press set up (as near as one can guess) in order to be considered a variation for this book, yet the book is still going to run about 150 pages for just the baseball portion of the book covering 1948 to 1995. The draft of the book will be reviewed by variation collectors involved. George Vrechek ================= Date: 13 Apr 2017 02:00:34 +0000 To: Subject: Remember - "OBC At The Ballpark" From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 14:07:24 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Things I should know From: EEK ....but I don't! How do I edit my "Who Collects What" list, biopage etc. I heard tell of a Variations Guide, if true how do I get there?Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: 13 Apr 2017 16:46:06 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Things I should know From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 13 Apr 2017 16:49:27 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Things I should know pt 2 From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 14 Apr 2017 20:00:26 +0000 To: Subject: Waivers From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 16:02:02 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Guru Ramble From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Tomorrow I am looking forward to another card show at =E2=9CThe Villages=E2=9D retirement community a little more than two hours south of here. This is the show where I found that rare gray back 1952 Topps card in the $5 box. Sold it on eBay for $500. Not expecting to find another one of thosebut you never know. Old Geezers (like me) playing softball tournaments, driving around in golf cards, crazy widow ladies=E2=A6. The place is pretty amazing! I would even consider moving there except the houses (or condos) are built close, andwhat if I moved next door to some jerk? Better off staying put out here inthe country for now. These guys have a collecting club, and host a show three or four times a year. I=E2=99ll pull out from home around 6AM the show hours are 9AM-2PM I=E2=99m not kidding! Square Dance classes and Bingo start in the late afternoon I guess, plus you can=E2=99t miss the =E2=9Cearly-bird=E2=9D special at the diner! Anticipation of a show it=E2=99s a fun part of our hobby. I=E2=99ll write a report tomorrow. Over on the OBC Facebook page, I have been posting a few messages about transitioning my collection from standard =E2=9Cpenny-sleeves=E2=9D and =E2=9CCardSavers=E2=9D to Archival Polyester (Mylar) sleeves for longterm protection. I think the consensus opinion over on Facebook is that I=E2=99m wasting my time and money LOL! When I was out in California, I went to one of the card shows out there, and was given a sample pack of these sleeves. I think the thing I like best about them is how clear they are compared to regular =E2=9Cpenny-sleeves=E2=9D. Anyway I think this is a new company called True Collector Verification Service. I was looking around his website, and it appears he also slabs cards in museum grade holders. He placed an add in The Wrapper magazine this month offering a free sample pack of his mylar sleeves. As far as I know he only makes sleeves to fit regulars size Topps cards, and also sleeves to fit larger size cards like 53 Bowman. I asked him if I could share this info with you guys and he said yes. So if you want a sample pack of five sleeves visit his website www.tcverify.com Click the Contact tab leave your name and email info, and in the message area state =E2=9CSample Mylar Pack=E2=9D and leave your mailing address. Just had my annual physical exam, and after YEARS of struggling borderline high/high blood pressure, I finally went on medication. Two years prior I started taking cholesterol medication and have seen very positive results from that. After all the traveling I=E2=99ve been doing (and basically not watching what I jam down my throat) I=E2=99ve also been carrying around some extra weight, which I know is not good for me. It=E2=99s a constant battle, and one I will not give up on. Basically I=E2=99m a sugar freak LOL! I=E2=99ve also been dealing with chronic lower back pain. I think weight loss would help this, and I also went to the chiropractor (for thefirst time) four or five times. Next week I=E2=99m going to see a physical therapist. It=E2=99s not super painful, and it doesn=E2=99t keep me from any activity. I don=E2=99t take any medication for it either. Mystretching and yoga helps some. What do they say =E2=9Cgetting old is a bitch=E2=9D. ================= To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:29:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru Ramble From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: 14 Apr 2017 22:51:57 +0000 To: Subject: OBC password help From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:48:11 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waiver - from Greg Henthorn From: Patrick Prickett So Greg sent me a nice package, but unfortunately they weren't really hits (fault is mine for poor wording on my wantlist). So the first person to say I'll take all 3 and send me their address can have: 1933 Sky Birds #65 Vickers Vampire 1977-78 Basketball - 2 Henry Bibby and 74 Leonard Robinson. (And thanks for thinking of me Greg!) ================= Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:10:38 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: New set started - 1952 Topps Look n See From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, Just started a new set of 1952 Topps Look N See cards. Need the following: 6, 11, 13, 15 Babe Ruth, 17, 26, 29, 32, 36, 43, 45, 47, 49, 50, 52, 54, 55, 60, 61, 64, 68, 82 Rembrandt, 94, 113, 120 Oh, and I probably have about 50 dupes. Shoot me your list if you're collecting this set. ================= Date: 15 Apr 2017 01:03:38 +0000 To: Subject: Hassan Arctic "The Explorers Friend" Printing Question From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:17:44 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: OBC password help From: Wayne Delia Hi, Nate - your password for the OBC website is... Hey, wait a minute, I'm not going to tell everybody your password. I just wanted to remind people that you can email your current password to yourself by going to the OBC website, click on Directory in the left side menu, then click on the "Update your address or collecting goals" in the main area (that's what the guys wanted me to call it). On the next screen, click on "Email Current OBC Member Profile Password" and select your name. The current password will be sent to your current email address. Any questions or problems, just let me ================= Date: 15 Apr 2017 14:33:33 +0000 To: Subject: Potential new member - process? From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:55:20 -0400 To: davidluftig@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hassan Arctic "The Explorers Friend" Printing From: Mike Glasser My card is printed correctly. I'll keep an eye out for others printed upside down though. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 14, 2017 9:03 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hassan Arctic "The Explorers Friend" Printing Question Greetings All, I was looking through my T30 Hassan Arctic cards and I noticed my "The Explorers Friend" card has a back which is upside down in relation to all the other cards in the set (and really every other Hassan tobacco card that I have). When you flip the front of the card over (side-to-side) the back is upside down. I couldn't find any documentation about this online. I'd be interested in anyone's I'd also be grateful to anyone willing to check their copy of the card (it's the picture of the dog). I'm just curious if this is a printer's error or a larger scale goof. Thanks all! David Luftig ================= Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:14:22 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Card Show Report From: LAWRENCE TIPTON A disappointing show not really worth the time and drive it took me to get there. Still it=E2=99s fun to look through cards. The problem here with our monthly show, and the show at =E2=9CThe Villages=E2=9D is that the same dealers selling the same inventory. But I saw plenty of golf carts and several crazy widow women so there=E2=99s One dealer had a pair of 1957 Topps Clemente cards G-VG shape, one priced at $30 one priced at $20. I asked how much for both of them and he asked foran offer. I offered $30 for both which would have been a good deal for me.But he told me he had just bought them both for $40. I probably could havegot them for $45 but these would just be duplicates, dealer scum, or Wauction items, to much to spend right now. Ex big leaguer Bob Stinson was signing for free. He=E2=99s 71 years old and I assume a resident of =E2=9CThe Villages=E2=9D. I had a checklist of his cards and bought three 1977 Topps cards, and two 1978 Topps card for cheap which he signed. Interesting Bob Stinson card note: He is picturedon multi-player =E2=9CRookie Prospects=E2=9D cards three times 1970 #131, 1971 #594, and 1972 #679, all multi player, =E2=9CRookie Prospects=E2=9D type cards, I found that interesting. I bought just one =E2=9Ccard=E2=9D that was on my wantlist, a 1966 Topps rup-off Clemente for $5 also bought a Pete Rose =E2=9966 Rub-Off for$5 for the dupes box or maybe future Wauction. Bought a 1959 Topps high number #552 Casey Stengel All-Star card for the asking price $5 which I thought was a bargain, another duplicate. =E2=9CGreenie-Fever=E2=9D I havecompleted my =E2=9962 Topps =E2=9CGreen Tints=E2=9D but one dealer had #139 =E2=9CBabe Hits 60=E2=9D green tint with the pole showing nice shape I picked that up for $8 another duplicate although this might bean Big pick up of the day I guess was another duplicate or possible upgrade 1966 Mickey Mantle #50 in nice condition except has two small pin holes in Mickeys eyes. Card was priced at $30 I offered $20 dealer countered at $25. Iput it down, but as I was leaving the show I went back and bought it for $25. Almost made a mistake as a dealer had 1962 Topps Babe Ruth special cards at$1.25 each and I was going to buy all he had until at the last minute I realized they were Topps Heritage cards and I put them back. I searched hi and low for those rare gray back 1952 Topps cards, none to befound I have two extra Bob Stinson auto=E2=99d 1977 cards and one extra 1978 card if anyone wants one let me know. ================= Date: 16 Apr 2017 01:54:21 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hassan Arctic "The Explorers Friend" Printing Question From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:37:18 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Caution: eBay seller Burbank Sportscards From: LAWRENCE TIPTON FYI eBay seller Burbank Sports Cards uses =E2=9Cstock=E2=9D photos. On their behalf, they do state this in the fine print in their auctions. I was picking off some variations, and it seems a bit =E2=9Csketchy=E2=9D to me that many of the images used depicted the rarer versions. So theyuse stock photos, but the stock photo used just happens to be the rarer version? I=E2=99ve bought from them before with good results. But if you are searching for variations, you might be dis-appointed in what you receive. Here is what is listed on their auctions in the small print: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Caution: eBay seller Burbank Sportscards From: Ken M I just bought half a doen cards from them on eBay (all 1971 Kellogg's). None of the pictures showed the backs, so I couldn't tell if any were variations. (Now I'm kinda glad they didn't show the backs). They were cheap, so I rolled the dice. The only complaint I have is that they ship from two different places. Five of the six arrived Friday. The sixth showed up yesterday with the note that said the others were shipped separately. Oh, and the one that came by itself was the only variation, so I got to cross one off my list anyway. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 7:37 AMTo: obc Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Caution: eBay seller Burbank Sportscards FYI eBay seller Burbank Sports Cards uses “stock” photos. On their behalf, they do state this in the fine print in their auctions. I was picking off some variations, and it seems a bit “sketchy” to me that many of the images used depicted the rarer versions. So they use stock photos, but the stock photo used just happens to be the rarer version?I’ve bought from them before with good results. But if you are searching for variations, you might be dis-appointed in what you receive. Here is what is listed on their auctions in the small print: Burbank Sports Cards did offer me a refund if I returned the cards, and even offered to pay for the return shipping cost. But it was only six cards and a very small order so I declined. I know many OBC members search out variations, that’s why I am posting this. Just so you read the small print. ================= To: Ken M , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:50:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Caution: eBay seller Burbank Sportscards From: richard dingman here is another seller who will consistently show photos of variations of cards when he is selling a normal version. he states that his photos are not the actual card, but it is "curious" how very often he will show a rare variation when he is not selling it. his handle is shackem, check him out. be prepared for some rude replies ifyou bring the topic up. Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 10:58 AM To: Ken M; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Caution: eBay seller Burbank Sportscards I live very close to their store. I won't buy from them. Why? When I gointo the shop in person, they won't let you look at any of the cards. They have computers in there with the item numbers and expect you to just givethem the number, and buy whatever they return with. I once tried going tothe shop and telling them that I was looking for 1977-78 Tops basketball cards with GREY backs, they told me which ones they had ... and then walked out and handed me a stack of all glossy white ones. So they aren't even worthwhile buying from in person. Ps - But I do give them a MUCH better review than the Beverly Baseball Cardshop. Zach is clueless and manages that place poorly. A shame the LA card shops are so bad. On Sunday, April 16, 2017 6:59 AM, "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: I just bought half a doen cards from them on eBay (all 1971 Kellogg's). None of the pictures showed the backs, so I couldn't tell if any were variations. (Now I'm kinda glad they didn't show the backs). They were cheap, so I rolled the dice. The only complaint I have is that they ship from two different places. Five of the six arrived Friday. The sixth showed up yesterday with the note that said the others were shipped separately. Oh, and the onethat came by itself was the only variation, so I got to cross one off my list Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net Date: Sun, Apr 16, 2017 7:37 AM To: obc Ramblings; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Caution: eBay seller Burbank Sportscards FYI eBay seller Burbank Sports Cards uses =93stock=94 photos. On their behalf, they do state this in the fine print in their auctions. I was picking off some variations, and it seems a bit =93sketchy=94 to me that many of theimages used depicted the rarer versions. So they use stock photos, but thestock photo used just happens to be the rarer version? I=92ve bought from them before with good results. But if you are searching for variations, you might be dis-appointed in what you receive. Here is what is listed on their auctions in the small print: Burbank Sports Cards did offer me a refund if I returned the cards, and even offered to pay for the return shipping cost. But it was only six cards and a very small order so I declined. I know many OBC members search out variations, that=92s why I am posting this. Just so you read the small print. ================= Date: 17 Apr 2017 00:19:51 +0000 To: Subject: Basketball Waiver From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 02:49:20 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Fwd: obak gif From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 21:14:34 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Wantlist Feedback / Ramble From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Good Evening: I have been looking at and tightening up my wantlist list over the last couple of weeks. Back in 2012 I started a 1,000 card countdown to focus my collecting as I am all over the place and want to be budget-conscious. Five years later, I have added 367 cards. I have been pretty happy with the number of cards and the focus. After trimming up my lists, primarily type lists I am finding I can add about 200 cards to my my remaining 633 cards. I am looking for some ideas on what to add. What I am collecting - *Sets* - T200, T206 portraits, Diamond Stars, 35 Goudey 4 in 1 - 157 hits and one set completed - T113 - *Type* - I had a goal of 1,500 pre-1990 types. Mission accomplished. I have trimmed this list significantly. - 38 hits - from 1895 Mayo to 1988 Orioles postcards, heavy of pre-1950 hits. - *Players* - I collect a bunch of different players for a variety of - 97 hits - wrapped up Oscar Gamble, Otis Nixon, Garth Iorg and Dane - *Blank backs, miscuts and wrong-back*s - I am trying to get one each from 1957 Topps to 1986. Iam mostly done with the blank backs and miscuts. - 26 hits, most recently by Bob D'Angelo - *HOF collection* - I completed this one a couple of years back. One contemporaneous card per player / manager from 1901 to 2001. I have a parallel UV run almost completed. - 51 hits - Mac Wubben completed the run with Dizzy Dean Candidates to add: - *1953 Topps* - I largely completed the Topps run. I didn't do, nor do I have an interest in 52 Topps due to the high numbers. I had about a third of the 53 set and got rid of it. I am thinking about this one, but the Mantle and Mays are out of my price range. - *1953 B&W Bowman* - I largely completed the Bowman run. I didn't do, nor do I have an interest in 51 Bowman due to the Mantle. I am heavily considering the 1953 B&W set. I complete the color set a while ago. - *Revisiting a few non-sport sets* - I have really good starts on T52, T68, and T69 and am thinking about adding them back. - *Players* - I am looking at adding Don Mossi and Oscar Stanage. I have a majority of Mossi's and Stanage was my first T206. I also have a number of Stanages. - *T set *- T205? T9? T201? Any ideas of sets to add? I am going to be budget conscious ($600-$800 a year) in whatever I add. A long journey to completion does not bother me. I have pretty much done: - Topps run - I have done this one before - Bowman run - I have done this one before - Fleer run - I have done this one before - Kelloggs - no interest - Hostess run and Bell Brands - I have done these before - HOF signed plaques - I used to have 100+ Erik Greenwood ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 01:13:38 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: 1979 Kellogg's From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello All, I wrote the group a little over a week ago about a stack of Kellogg's I was going through. About 10 of you replied and all will be receiving something from that stack (except 1 - sorry Sal, no luck). Along the journey I spoke to "The Industry Expert" Ken Morganti and he informed me that the `79 set I thought was complete had some trademark variations that I should be aware of. Well, I had already doubled my want list with the `71 variations, why not blow it up with `79. So below is my "new" list for these slick, crackly, SOB's : (thanks Ken!!!) 1979 KELLOGG'S - (any condition) . TRADEMARK IN TONY'S SCARF : 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 51, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60. TRADEMARK IN LOWER RIGHT CORNER OF TONY LOGO : 13, 56, 57. TEXT VARIATIONS (Probably Scarf Trademarks) : 10A (Splittoff-IP 1665), 25A (Porter-2B 101), 26A (Driessen-Games 642), 27A (Zahn-`78 Minnessota spelled wrong), 33B (Puhl-Bio last sentence begins "His"), 38A (Forsch-`77 Games 86), 39A (Griffey-`78 AB 674), 41A (Evans-`78 Hits 13), 45A (YAZ-AB 9930), 46A (Jackson-`78 Games 162), 48A (Flanagan-`78 SO 57), 49A (Perry-`73 Hits 325), 51B (Reynolds-Bio last sentence begins "In those"), 53A (Almon-2B 31), 56A (Rau-`78 Pct .577), 57A (Monday-`76 Runs 197), 59A (Jackson-Bio last sentence begins "His best"). So if anybody out there has any of these I've got about (75) dupes from this set alone. If you are not a variation collector and have one I need I probably have a dupe - just let me know. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 11:27:40 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Basketball Waivers...and a couple of other misc... From: chris tripler in honor of the NBA playoffs....these are in top-notch Tipton shape, so be forewarned, but loaded with stars '69-70 #37 Loy Peterson'76-77 (Big boys) #s 3 Paul Silas, 9, 10 Goodrich, 12, 17 Phil Jackson, 27, 39, 47 (x2), 54, 63, 64 Walt Frazier, 65, 67, 75, 88, 98 Earl Monroe, 103, 125, 129 (x2, these are actually in very good shape), 1/2 of a Kareem AJ card and a couple of misc... '66 Batman (orange) #34'76 Happy Days #1 card Baseball'69 Topps Deckle #26 Allen'75 Topps Mini #132 TripOBC 2015 ================= Date: 17 Apr 2017 12:17:35 +0000 To: Subject: Fair priced 1960 lot of 367 From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:09:09 +0000 Subject: 1969 Deckle question From: Aaron Shirley Cards 11 and 22 both have variations. I'd guess most of us know that. But is there good evidence of WHICH is less common? 11 Wilhelm or Wynn? 22 Staub or Foy? What are your opinions, observations, notes from the field... do you have any evidence to back claims up? What's your degree in? Can you show me a dissertation or thesis? Oh, sorry. tradingcarddb shows Wilhelm and Foy being higher-valued. My SCD doesn't agree. So I am wondering if maybe they don't accurately reflect thecomparative values or relative scarcity. And while we're on the topic, does anyone have the smooth-edged proofs? Just ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:17:31 +0000 (UTC) To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Deckle question From: mark_macrae@comcast.net Historically Wynn and Foy turned up less frequently....However there seem to be enough around to supply the demand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 7:09:09 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Deckle question Cards 11 and 22 both have variations. I'd guess most of us know that. But is there good evidence of WHICH is less common? 11 Wilhelm or Wynn? 22 Staub or Foy? What are your opinions, observations, notes from the field... do you have any evidence to back claims up? What's your degree in? Can you show me a dissertation or thesis? Oh, sorry. tradingcarddb shows Wilhelm and Foy being higher-valued. My SCD doesn't agree. So I am wondering if maybe they don't accurately reflect thecomparative values or relative scarcity. And while we're on the topic, does anyone have the smooth-edged proofs? Just ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 15:34:05 +0000 Subject: attending STRONGSVILLE and/or NATIONAL? From: Aaron Shirley The NATIONAL is kind of a big deal for us in OBC. Some may not know, but there is a server on Yahoo, specifically for OBC members: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-NATIONAL I have also just created Facebook groups specifically for the NATIONAL... and STRONGSVILLE too. Simply a place to get together to scheme... I mean work out logistics... roommates... driving arrangements... dupes exchanges... after hours watering holes... https://www.facebook.com/groups/449904082013269 https://www.facebook.com/groups/289814021454466/ Hope this helps ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 12:41:56 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Deckle question From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en I still need Wynn and Foy. They have been hard to get. So therefore I suggest they are more valuable. I do not have time to write a thesis but my degree is a Masters in Business Administration so I think you can be confident that Wynn and Foy are more valuable. MBAs know everything (except business ironically) I have no smooth edge proofs. I do not believe in them. In a message dated 4/17/2017 7:10:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Cards 11 and 22 both have variations. I'd guess most of us know that. But is there good evidence of WHICH is less common? 11 Wilhelm or Wynn? 22 Staub or Foy? What are your opinions, observations, notes from the field... do you have any evidence to back claims up? What's your degree in? Can you show me a dissertation or thesis? Oh, sorry. tradingcarddb shows Wilhelm and Foy being higher-valued. My SCD doesn't agree. So I am wondering if maybe they don't accurately reflect the comparative values or relative scarcity. And while we're on the topic, does anyone have the smooth-edged proofs? Just curious. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:16:31 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Available: Yankees farmhand photos, many signed From: Matthew Glidden Won an auction not long ago and ended up with several 8x10s Yankees A/AA/AAA guys whose best days might still be ahead of them. Several of them are signed. Any pinstripe fans interested in the lot? (No names that I really recognize, but can supply a few if it matters to you. :-) ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 18:37:10 -0400 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Deckle question From: Andy Huntoon Hey Guys, I search for Wynn cards all the time as he is my HOMer and see the 69 Deckle all the time. It's not hard to find, you just have to pay a little more for it when you find it. I've seen the smooth edge proofs on Net54 years ago. A collector that posts in the postwar section a lot has them. I can't remember his name but he posted images of them at the time. Andy Huntoon On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:41 PM, rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Aaron > I still need Wynn and Foy. They have been hard to get. So therefore I > suggest they are more valuable. > I do not have time to write a thesis but my degree is a Masters in > Business Administration so I think you can be confident that Wynn and Foy > are more valuable. MBAs know everything (except business ironically) > I have no smooth edge proofs. I do not believe in them. > RW > In a message dated 4/17/2017 7:10:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > Cards 11 and 22 both have variations. I'd guess most of us know that. But > is there good evidence of WHICH is less common? > 11 Wilhelm or Wynn? > 22 Staub or Foy? > What are your opinions, observations, notes from the field... do you have > any evidence to back claims up? What's your degree in? Can you show me a > dissertation or thesis? > Oh, sorry. tradingcarddb shows Wilhelm and Foy being higher-valued. My SCD > doesn't agree. So I am wondering if maybe they don't accurately reflect the > comparative values or relative scarcity. > And while we're on the topic, does anyone have the smooth-edged proofs? > Just curious. > Aaron ================= Date: 17 Apr 2017 23:26:42 +0000 To: Subject: 1980 Burger King Waivers From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: 17 Apr 2017 23:48:08 +0000 To: Subject: Potential new member? From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 00:13:31 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: Available: Yankees farmhand photos, many signed From: Matthew Glidden Ok, Yankee photos are claimed! On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:16 PM Matthew Glidden > Won an auction not long ago and ended up with several 8x10s Yankees > A/AA/AAA guys whose best days might still be ahead of them. Several of them > are signed. Any pinstripe fans interested in the lot? (No names that I > really recognize, but can supply a few if it matters to you. :-) > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:25:52 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] attending STRONGSVILLE and/or NATIONAL? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Does little good for us old farts that are not on social media. I know that I and many others are not on Facebook. I will be at both Strongsville and the National. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 11:34 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] attending STRONGSVILLE and/or NATIONAL? The NATIONAL is kind of a big deal for us in OBC. Some may not know, but there is a server on Yahoo, specifically for OBC members: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-NATIONAL I have also just created Facebook groups specifically for the NATIONAL... and STRONGSVILLE too. Simply a place to get together to scheme... I mean work out logistics... roommates... driving arrangements... dupes exchanges... after hours watering holes... https://www.facebook.com/groups/449904082013269 https://www.facebook.com/groups/289814021454466/ Hope this helps ================= Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 23:50:28 -0400 (EDT) To: ShoelessWes , Bucknutt2008@gmail.com, Subject: STRONGSVILLE SHOW THIS SATURDAY!!!! From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 Wes, Gerald, Joe, Tom H, Ed, Mike M, John, Nick, Ron, Mike R, Sam and Jimi, From my notes I believe that these fine gentlemen will be embarking upon Strongsville and then on to the Man Cave that Sam built this weekend. I will be accompanying Mike Rich and Ron Perry and having missed last years event I am looking forward to it. As has been said, it's a mini "national" event and certainly rivals all other events in sheer OBC presence. I'm wondering if anyone else will be in attendance. In particular - Larry Gersbach, Tom Billings, Bill Malson, Joe Issac, Ken Pillion, and Anson Whaley - all are within a few hours driving distance (though Joe's move to South Carolina probably makes it less convenient then when he was in central Ohio). I'm pulling cardboard for those I know to be attending and would like to be prepared in the event any one else is coming. So chime in if that is you. Looking forward to the meet-up. BE WELL!!!! Live Long and Prosper!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:15:47 -0400 To: MARK TALBOT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] STRONGSVILLE SHOW THIS SATURDAY!!!! From: Anson Whaley Sorry, all - I will not be there. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:50 PM, MARK TALBOT talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Wes, Gerald, Joe, Tom H, Ed, Mike M, John, Nick, Ron, Mike R, Sam and Jimi, > From my notes I believe that these fine gentlemen will be embarking upon Strongsville and then on to the Man Cave that Sam built this weekend. I will be accompanying Mike Rich and Ron Perry and having missed last yearsevent I am looking forward to it. As has been said, it's a mini "national" event and certainly rivals all other events in sheer OBC presence. I'm wondering if anyone else will be in attendance. In particular - Larry Gersbach, Tom Billings, Bill Malson, Joe Issac, Ken Pillion, and Anson Whaley - all are within a few hours driving distance (though Joe's move to South Carolina probably makes it less convenient then when he was in central Ohio). > I'm pulling cardboard for those I know to be attending and would like to be prepared in the event any one else is coming. So chime in if that is you. Looking forward to the meet-up. BE WELL!!!! > Live Long and Prosper!!! > REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK ================= Date: 18 Apr 2017 15:21:32 +0000 To: Subject: Re: STRONGSVILLE SHOW THIS SATURDAY!!!! From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:42:19 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Re: STRONGSVILLE SHOW THIS SATURDAY!!!! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Hopefully a few attendees can =E2=9CFacebook Live=E2=9D from the show, and also from Sams man-cave! ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:45:03 -0400 To: MARK TALBOT Subject: Re: STRONGSVILLE SHOW THIS SATURDAY!!!! From: Joe and LaShelle Denning LaShelle and I look forward to seeing everyone Saturday night at Sam's and are doing the show on Sunday as I am on travel until early Sat morning for Joe D On Apr 17, 2017 10:50 PM, "MARK TALBOT" wrote: > Wes, Gerald, Joe, Tom H, Ed, Mike M, John, Nick, Ron, Mike R, Sam and Jimi, > From my notes I believe that these fine gentlemen will be embarking > upon Strongsville and then on to the Man Cave that Sam built this weekend. > I will be accompanying Mike Rich and Ron Perry and having missed last years > event I am looking forward to it. As has been said, it's a mini "national" > event and certainly rivals all other events in sheer OBC presence. I'm > wondering if anyone else will be in attendance. In particular - Larry > Gersbach, Tom Billings, Bill Malson, Joe Issac, Ken Pillion, and Anson > Whaley - all are within a few hours driving distance (though Joe's move to > South Carolina probably makes it less convenient then when he was in > central Ohio). > I'm pulling cardboard for those I know to be attending and would like > to be prepared in the event any one else is coming. So chime in if that is > you. Looking forward to the meet-up. BE WELL!!!! > Live Long and Prosper!!! > REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:09:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1952 topps waiver wire From: Robert Fitts two REALLY ugly cards 24 easter and 245 robertson yours for the asking rob fitts ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:43:16 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1952 cards gone From: Robert Fitts I was fast! Both cards cleaned and minutes Sent from my iPhone ================= To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, uthminsta@hotmail.com, Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:40:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] attending STRONGSVILLE and/or NATIONAL? From: ED SCHOTT hey guys check out the group from Huggins and Scott Auctions (Silver Spring Md.) at the show they actually have some OBC type stuff for sale say Hi to Bill On 4/17/2017 10:25 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does little good for us old farts that are not on social media. I > know that I and many others are not on Facebook. I will be at both > Strongsville and the National. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Mon, Apr 17, 2017 11:34 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] attending STRONGSVILLE and/or NATIONAL? > The NATIONAL is kind of a big deal for us in OBC. Some may not know, > but there is a server on Yahoo, specifically for OBC members: > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-NATIONAL > I have also just created Facebook groups specifically for the > NATIONAL... and STRONGSVILLE too. Simply a place to get together to > scheme... I mean work out logistics... roommates... driving > arrangements... dupes exchanges... after hours watering holes... > STRONGSVILLE > https://www.facebook.com/groups/449904082013269 > NATIONAL > https://www.facebook.com/groups/289814021454466/ > Hope this helps > Aaron ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:59:12 -0400 Subject: 1969-70 Topps Basketball From: "Bob Donaldson" I've the following available 48 53 58 66 77 92 Ask away. And just in case you have any you are looking to unload, here is my wantlist Basketball Topps 1969-70 1 2 3 5 6 10 11 12 14 15 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 28 29 31 32 33 35 36 37 40 42 43 44 45 47 50 54 55 56 61 67 68 69 71 74 78 80 81 82 83 85 86 88 90 91 93 94 95 98 99 ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:30:26 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Any help From: Rick Bought a small lot of salada/shirriff hockey coins and one had this as its plastic coin. I only found one item on eBay about them they are the same size and same edge but can't find anything on if they are suppose to have an insert in them like the baseball/hockey coins. Anyone know what was supposeto be in it or nothing. Rick ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:13:30 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any help [2 Attachments] From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I have one "Lucky Coin" holder. They were issued as part of a non-sport set. Sometimes the paper inserts fall out of the holders. Many of us that collect the Shirriff & Salada coins have some of the paper inserts, not in aholder or in a wrong color holder. These are not variations or errors. They are simply inserts that have fallen out of a holder and put back into a different holder. That said, I do keep my Lucky Coin in with my variations just because I find it interesting. I am missing only 1 more 1961-62 Shirriff Hockey coin #119 MacNeil for a master set of both Shirriff and Salada coins. It has been tempting to pick up a Salada version (I see those) and pop out the insert and put it into a Shirriff holder. So far, I just cannot bring myself to tamper with one justto complete my set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 18, 2017 6:30 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any help [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Bought a small lot of salada/shirriff hockey coins and one had this as its plastic coin. I only found one item on eBay about them they are the same size and same edge but can't find anything on if they are suppose to have an insert in them like the baseball/hockey coins. Anyone know what was supposeto be in it or nothing. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 18 Apr 2017 23:25:12 +0000 To: Subject: Reason to organize and clean up From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:38:02 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Stan and Ted Bowman issues From: Rob Bessette I imagine it has something to do with contracts, but anyone have any idea why Ted Williams and Stan Musial never appear in a Bowman set from the same year? Stan was 48, 49, 52, 53 and Ted was 50, 51, 54. Neither was in 55. ================= Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 20:32:37 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vegas From: Rick Going to Vegas tomorrow to see Rich and Lynn be gone a week. On the weekendthey even have a card show we are going to hit. See you in a week. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 00:14:28 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any help [2 Attachments] From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Looks like a cereal promotion where you saved the coins and redeemed them for "fabulous prizes"! http://www.mrbreakfast.com/cereal_ucp_slideshow.asp?id95&picid2400 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/18/2017 6:30:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://0d64f108/default.html#TopText) from Rick included Bought a small lot of salada/shirriff hockey coins and one had this as its plastic coin. I only found one item on eBay about them they are the same size and same edge but can't find anything on if they are suppose to have an insert in them like the baseball/hockey coins. Anyone know what was suppose to be in it or nothing. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 20 Apr 2017 02:13:57 +0000 To: Subject: New Set Added From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:30:04 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1963 Mets Jellos From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Ack! If I had only known... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/19/2017 10:36:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hoping someone in OBC picked up the four Mets short prints that were mislabeled as Posts. Craig, Neal, Kahnel and Mantilla (along with a Canadian Post of Bouchee) all priced at $2.99. I was on the road and only saw thema couple of minutes ago when I checked "sold" on ebay. Would have hit the BIN as soon as possible. Only proves there are still mislabeled deals on evilbay. ================= Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:45:47 -0500 To: Joe and LaShelle Denning Subject: Re: STRONGSVILLE SHOW THIS SATURDAY!!!! From: Mike Mackie Hey everyone. Looking forward to the show this weekend. Attending the show Saturday only and joining at Sam's that night. Arriving Friday late afternoon. Anyone interested in meeting for dinner or drinks Friday evening? Mike Mackie Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 18, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Joe and LaShelle Denning > LaShelle and I look forward to seeing everyone Saturday night at Sam's and are doing the show on Sunday as I am on travel until early Sat morning for > Joe D >> On Apr 17, 2017 10:50 PM, "MARK TALBOT" wrote: >> Wes, Gerald, Joe, Tom H, Ed, Mike M, John, Nick, Ron, Mike R, Sam and Jimi, >> From my notes I believe that these fine gentlemen will be embarking upon Strongsville and then on to the Man Cave that Sam built this weekend. I will be accompanying Mike Rich and Ron Perry and having missed last years event I am looking forward to it. As has been said, it's a mini "national" event and certainly rivals all other events in sheer OBC presence. I'm wondering if anyone else will be in attendance. In particular - Larry Gersbach, Tom Billings, Bill Malson, Joe Issac, Ken Pillion, and Anson Whaley -all are within a few hours driving distance (though Joe's move to South Carolina probably makes it less convenient then when he was in central Ohio). >> I'm pulling cardboard for those I know to be attending and would like to be prepared in the event any one else is coming. So chime in if thatis you. Looking forward to the meet-up. BE WELL!!!! >> Live Long and Prosper!!! >> REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK ================= Date: 21 Apr 2017 01:06:18 +0000 To: Subject: Last check on Strongsville show- if you are going and not on my list, could you please let me know From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:41:42 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Emails From: JDahms ================= Date: 21 Apr 2017 14:00:19 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Emails From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:09:30 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Todd Helton From: Joel Freedman What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is not a HOFer? ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Joel Freedman Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:22:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton From: JAY TYSVER However, Larry Walker should not be overlooked. Both have very similar stats. My fear is that both were not considered enough of power hitters. But, any player with a lifetime average above .310 ought to be strongly considered. Both are above that level. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:09 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is not aHOFer? ================= To: "'Joel Freedman'" , Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:58:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton From: "Bob Donaldson" Based on his hitting stats, he=E2=99s a borderline HOFer. However, given that he played in Colorado, his stats should be discounted. Additionally, during a 17 yr career he only made the All Star team five times. I guessI=E2=99d lean towards no. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:10 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is not aHOFer? ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:04:10 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton From: Anson Whaley I would lean no on Helton but if he got in by today's standards, I wouldn't be screaming bloody murder. He was a career .316 hitter and even in years when he didn't make an All-Star team, he had some strong seasons. Those All-Star numbers can be deceiving since it's basically a half-season award. My problem with the HOF is a larger one in general. Most people I talk to disagree with this but to me, Hall of Fame should mean it's a slam dunk type of thing. Guys that are on ballots for years and years and finally squeak in really kind of cheapens it. I'm all for guys that eventually get in and am glad they appreciate it. And it doesn't bother me that they are in since it's still a very exclusive group. But if you gave me the list of the 300+ Hall of Famers, I could probably scrub 100 people from it and not lose any sleep. To me, the HOF should be more Ruth, Mays, Mantle, etc. and less Bert Blyleven, Jim Bottomley, Bobby Doerr. Great players, mind you - but you could probably go back through time and make the case for another 100-150 or so guys with similarly decent production/qualifications of some of the 'lesser' HOFers. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he > played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is > not a HOFer? > Joel ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:55:53 -0600 To: Anson Whaley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton From: James Silva First of all, I am a stat-head so let=E2=99s get that out there so you know what my =E2=9Cpolitics=E2=9D are. So what is Todd Helton (who I watched play a fair amount since I moved to Colorado in 1999)? He was a goodglove man (3 gold gloves) who could hit for average and power and won fourSilver Slugger awards, made five All Star teams and never finished top 3 in the MVP voting. That=E2=99s pretty good, but on the surface doesn=E2=99t feel like it=E2=99s good enough. Is he Gehrig? Obviously not even close. Is he Johnny Mize? Well, comparing park adjusted stats he falls short of Mize in wRC+ - a park and league adjusted measure of offensive value, but it=E2=99s hard to compare their defensive stats since Mize played way before advanced defensive valuation came along. Mize, Greenberg, and Frank Thomas (the younger) are comparable, so I would say Helton falls short of them too. Is he Bagwell? Closer, but still not quite. Bagwell created more runs when you adjust for park and league. Same for Bill Terry - Helton falls short. Is he Orlando Cepeda? Well, yeah - he pretty much is Orlando Cepeda - in terms of runs created they are identical. Cepeda did win an MVP and a ROY award, but didn=E2=99t do much in the post-season (neither did Helton). Eddie Murray? He looks to me to be a touch better than Murray whenyou compare awards and pard adjusted numbers, but it=E2=99s almost a push. He is definitely a small bit ahead of Tony Perez in both numbers and awards, but I don=E2=99t actually think Perez belongs, so maybe that is mybottom line (I am not even mentioning some of the old timers because the comparisons are tough and the justification for them making the Hall are iffy at best for some of them). Bottom line (to me at least) is you decide based on where your cutoff is. If you think Cepeda and Murray belong, then Helton is in. If you think Bagwell was a stretch, then Helton is out. Helton=E2=99s decline years (his last four in my opinion) hurt the Rockies, but I still think his career was worthy of the Hall - although just barely - and partly because I believe Cepeda and Murray (and Baggy should be in). But you could talk me out of it. ;-) Jim =E2=9CEl Fuego=E2=9D Silva #25 > On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:04 AM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I would lean no on Helton but if he got in by today's standards, I wouldn't be screaming bloody murder. He was a career .316 hitter and even in years when he didn't make an All-Star team, he had some strong seasons. Those All-Star numbers can be deceiving since it's basically a half-season award. > My problem with the HOF is a larger one in general. Most people I talk todisagree with this but to me, Hall of Fame should mean it's a slam dunk type of thing. Guys that are on ballots for years and years and finally squeak in really kind of cheapens it. > I'm all for guys that eventually get in and am glad they appreciate it. And it doesn't bother me that they are in since it's still a very exclusive group. But if you gave me the list of the 300+ Hall of Famers, I could probably scrub 100 people from it and not lose any sleep. To me, the HOF shouldbe more Ruth, Mays, Mantle, etc. and less Bert Blyleven, Jim Bottomley, Bobby Doerr. Great players, mind you - but you could probably go back throughtime and make the case for another 100-150 or so guys with similarly decent production/qualifications of some of the 'lesser' HOFers. > Anson > On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is nota > Joel ================= To: mark zentkovich , Joel Freedman Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:33:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton From: JAY TYSVER I agree there are some that are on the border which the hall can do without. I have a set criteria for inclusion. Best or arguably the best when they played at their position in their era. I have to think guys like Doerr were never thought of as one of the best. Why? Because it matters to the history of the game. When I think of the late 1980s, I think of Ozzie Smith, Ryne Sandberg, Darryl Strawberry, Roger Clemens, Dwight Gooden, and guys who represent that era. When I think of the late 1960s I think of McCovey, Killebrew, Gibson, Brock, Seaver, guys like that. When I think of the 1940s I don't think of Doerr. When I think of the1930s, I don't think of Travis Jackson. I have a concern with the way voting is done in that it often votes with guys who never saw the player play or understood their dominance. This has hurt guys like Gil Hodges who everyone thought was a hall of famer when he played. A key example of this is Jim Rice and Rich Gossage. Both were in the list of players who anyone would choose from the 1975-1980 era as indicative of their I might also add that too often guys get compared to players who came afterthem who benefited from changes in the game. A key example of this is Sparky Lyle. He was as good a reliever as Rollie Fingers in the 1970s but was alittle older and did not benefit from the way closers were compiling savesa little later. His stats are similar except he did not compile saves lateinto his 30s as Fingers was able to. In the same way, Bert Blyleven was never considered a hall of famer when he played, but because he compiled stats he squeaked in. Another example is Dwight Gooden and Orel Hershiser. Gooden was voted out quickly because of his drug use. But if you look at his career, he has a winning percentage over .600 with just shy of 200 wins. If he pitched in the 1950s, he would be in. But because his career was compared to all of the wincompilers of the 1960s and 1970s, he won't even get a second look. Hershiser, is almost the same guy but a few more wins and a few more losses. My fear is that there are no pitchers who were the best at the game in thelate 1980s who will ever make the hall. It would then be an injustice thatthat era is not properly represented. In fact, the list of players from that era is not well represented because they often get their stats compared to juicers who came around their era and piled on a ton of stats. Imagine if you would that Babe Ruth came after Eddie Murray. How would Murray fare in the HOF voting. That, in my opinion is what hurt Raines. He was compared to Rickey Henderson and suffered from that. It would be like denying Harmon Killebrew entry because he wasn't as good as Hank Aaron. One only needs to look at Vladimir Guerrero for another example of this. Hewas, as good a player as Roberto Clemente. His stats are very close, if not better than Clemente's, but because he didn't compile monster stats he didn't get in on his first ballot. I can't really support MVP voting as a criteria. Seeing some of the guys that have won it, in particular Kirk Gibson, I have issues with it. I also have issues with who the voters pick for MVP. There are teams that will neveror will rarely win an MVP simply because the voters either have a bias towards them or because they don't play in a visible enough market. If you want to fix the voting. I had an idea from a few years ago. Allow each team to choose three representatives from former players, writers, broadcasters, coaches, executives, scorekeepers or anyone who represented the team at one time or another. This would give us 90 voters. Next I would get 10 super fans who are 50 years or older. That would give a group of 100 voters every year. These voters would vote on all eras as well as the active I would do two ballots each time. One ballot would be stats only. On this ballot, the years or team a player played on and the name of the player would be concealed. Only their complete stats are shown. I would also mix in some HOFers stats and some non HOFer stats and let the voters vote on that only. The other ballot I would vote on is name only. No stats. Anyone who gets 75% on either ballot gets in. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:34 AM To: mark zentkovich; Joel Freedman; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton I am on the no side of fence now, as I just looked at his baseball reference top 5 in mvp voting is a bigger issue for me than number of all star game appearances. only once was he top 5 mvp bagwell, a recent steriod era 1st baseman had 3 top 5 mvp years, with one of those winning mvp good debate though, I enjoy seeing varied opinions on HOF debates mark z From: "mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: Joel Freedman ; OBC Ramblings Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton I think he would be borderline, and like someone else mentioned, similar toLarry definitely not 1st or 2nd ballot, and not inner circle hof like the top 100all time or so. with the ballot being crowded with steriod era guys and limit of 10 votes per person, may be waiting for a 'weaker class' in some year down the road... mark z From: "Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:15 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is not aHOFer? ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:15:00 -0700 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton From: Rick What amazes me is how big of emails you can write. It would take me a day and a half to write one this big. That's why mine are short and not to sweet. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:33 AM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I agree there are some that are on the border which the hall can do without. > I have a set criteria for inclusion. Best or arguably the best when they played at their position in their era. I have to think guys like Doerr werenever thought of as one of the best. > Why? Because it matters to the history of the game. When I think of the late 1980s, I think of Ozzie Smith, Ryne Sandberg, Darryl Strawberry, Roger Clemens, Dwight Gooden, and guys who represent that era. When I think of the late 1960s I think of McCovey, Killebrew, Gibson, Brock, Seaver, guys like that. When I think of the 1940s I don't think of Doerr. When I think of the 1930s, I don't think of Travis Jackson. > I have a concern with the way voting is done in that it often votes with guys who never saw the player play or understood their dominance. This has hurt guys like Gil Hodges who everyone thought was a hall of famer when he played. > A key example of this is Jim Rice and Rich Gossage. Both were in the listof players who anyone would choose from the 1975-1980 era as indicative oftheir > I might also add that too often guys get compared to players who came after them who benefited from changes in the game. A key example of this is Sparky Lyle. He was as good a reliever as Rollie Fingers in the 1970s but wasa little older and did not benefit from the way closers were compiling saves a little later. His stats are similar except he did not compile saves late into his 30s as Fingers was able to. In the same way, Bert Blyleven was never considered a hall of famer when he played, but because he compiled stats he squeaked in. > Another example is Dwight Gooden and Orel Hershiser. Gooden was voted outquickly because of his drug use. But if you look at his career, he has a winning percentage over .600 with just shy of 200 wins. If he pitched in the1950s, he would be in. But because his career was compared to all of the win compilers of the 1960s and 1970s, he won't even get a second look. Hershiser, is almost the same guy but a few more wins and a few more losses. > My fear is that there are no pitchers who were the best at the game in the late 1980s who will ever make the hall. It would then be an injustice that that era is not properly represented. > In fact, the list of players from that era is not well represented because they often get their stats compared to juicers who came around their era and piled on a ton of stats. Imagine if you would that Babe Ruth came afterEddie Murray. How would Murray fare in the HOF voting. That, in my opinionis what hurt Raines. He was compared to Rickey Henderson and suffered fromthat. It would be like denying Harmon Killebrew entry because he wasn't asgood as Hank Aaron. > One only needs to look at Vladimir Guerrero for another example of this. He was, as good a player as Roberto Clemente. His stats are very close, if not better than Clemente's, but because he didn't compile monster stats he didn't get in on his first ballot. > I can't really support MVP voting as a criteria. Seeing some of the guys that have won it, in particular Kirk Gibson, I have issues with it. I also have issues with who the voters pick for MVP. There are teams that will never or will rarely win an MVP simply because the voters either have a bias towards them or because they don't play in a visible enough market. > If you want to fix the voting. I had an idea from a few years ago. > Allow each team to choose three representatives from former players, writers, broadcasters, coaches, executives, scorekeepers or anyone who represented the team at one time or another. This would give us 90 voters. Next I would get 10 super fans who are 50 years or older. That would give a group of 100 voters every year. These voters would vote on all eras as well as theactive > I would do two ballots each time. One ballot would be stats only. On thisballot, the years or team a player played on and the name of the player would be concealed. Only their complete stats are shown. I would also mix in some HOFers stats and some non HOFer stats and let the voters vote on that only. > The other ballot I would vote on is name only. No stats. > Anyone who gets 75% on either ballot gets in. > Jay Tysver > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:34 AM > To: mark zentkovich; Joel Freedman; OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton > I am on the no side of fence now, as I just looked at his baseball reference > top 5 in mvp voting is a bigger issue for me than number of all star gameappearances. > only once was he top 5 mvp > bagwell, a recent steriod era 1st baseman had 3 top 5 mvp years, with one of those winning mvp > good debate though, I enjoy seeing varied opinions on HOF debates > mark z > From: "mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: Joel Freedman ; OBC Ramblings > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 11:23 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton > I think he would be borderline, and like someone else mentioned, similar to Larry Walker > definitely not 1st or 2nd ballot, and not inner circle hof like the top 100 all time or so. > with the ballot being crowded with steriod era guys and limit of 10 votesper person, may be waiting for a 'weaker class' in some year down the road... > mark z > From: "Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:15 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Todd Helton > What is the group's opinion on Todd Helton. Is he a HOFer or because he played in Colorado, his numbers are inflated due to thin air, thus he is nota > Joel ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 18:52:39 +0000 Subject: OPC and other Canadian issues! Share your wants, share you lists! From: Aaron Shirley We're over halfway through April, so I thought I would try to boost the activity over on the O-PEE-CHEE spreadsheet. If you have wantlists for OPC or any Canadian issues, post them! If you have dupes from OPC or any other Canadian issues, use the combined wantlists to make it easier to share them! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_NtPsH4c8n5BdMuQCNwvWEbO75wHnfu5b6fVH7edPnw/edit?uspsharing Look for another email soon about what's next... would love your input. ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:56:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mike McCann needs some ID help From: ChicoD1@aol.com Mike trusts that the brainpower of OBC can help him ID these photos and where they are from: Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 23:44:02 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Strongsville Show Report From: cardclctor@aol.com Huh? What am I doing making a report from a show in Ohio? Surprise! Well, I had a few days off and I was in the area... actually an abscessed tooth a couple weeks ago prompted me to make a dentist appointment this Monday with Sam Taylor. Sam had gotten me a prescription for penicillin (after we were both grilled by a suspicious pharmacist, who wanted to know why my dentist's office was 650 miles from home.) The antibiotics worked and I shifted my vacation to a Wed.to Wed. trip and booked a room in Strongsville. I then checked to see how far the drive was from my hotel to the show and discovered it was at the Holiday Inn right next door to the Super 8 I had booked at half their price - WIN! I drove to my aunt's house in upstate NY on Thursday. Traffic and rain added about an hour to my trip, but I arrived in about 6-1/2 hours. The next morning (today) I drove to my hotel in Strongsville without incident in about 6 hours. I check in and walked over to the show. I had forgotten my hat at home and I wasn't wearing my OBC shirt, so I was going incognito into the ballroom. The first row I walked down at the show, I ran into Pat from Kevin Savage Cards and he did a double take before saying hi. Later on, I stood in front of Wes Shepard and Jimi Thayer for at least ten minutes looking at cards before they recognized me. Kurt Tourdot did the same thing. I walked by JD Heckathorn's table when he had stepped outside, but he recognized me right away when I was making a second pass around the room. Despite showing up unannounced, two people managed to give me handshakes. JIMI THAYER let me have a 1977 Hostess Pete Rose from his table to re-complete that set. (I originally had a Twinkie card.) THANKS JIMI!! Also, NICK PELLETIER had a handshake for me, but planned to give it to me next weekend at the Wilmington show (which I'm still not sure I'll be able to attend.) However, Nick resorted to his signature move: I was pulling a stack of cards from Kurt Tourdot - some for me and some for you guys. He asked which ones were for me and I dropped a couple out of the pile. He scooped them up and paid Kurt for them and handed them to me. "Welcome to Cleveland" THANKS I bought a bunch of stuff, including a stack of 1971 Kellogg's cards from JD. I got about a half dozen of the tougher stat variations, including one that was on my list. My best purchase came in the first row. A guy had STACKS of Red Man cards marked $4 each. I pulled a couple HOF'ers and a couple with tabs, then I looked through his other stuff. I found a 1960 Leaf Hal Smith with the team omitted on the back. He threw that one in and I got the four Red Man cards for $15 total. I also found a bunch of 1971 scratchoffs and some hockey cards to help those sets along. Can't wait to go back tomorrow. Thanks for reading. TAYL, Ken M ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 12:25:59 -0400 Subject: Anyone want a lot of discs From: "Bob Donaldson" 15 Isaly's (9 diff), 1 dairy isle and one Crane. 1978? Must take them all ================= Date: 22 Apr 2017 17:56:02 +0000 To: Subject: Random Waiverrs From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:23:15 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Handshakes at Wilmington From: Joel Freedman Who is going to the Wilmington show next weekend? http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/rich-altman-boston-show-2017 ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:26:18 +0000 To: Joel Freedman , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Handshakes at Wilmington From: Bob Donaldson I plan to be there Saturday Bob Donaldson On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:23 PM Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Who is going to the Wilmington show next weekend? > http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/rich-altman-boston-show-2017 > Joel ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 22:26:04 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: A stupid new Non sports quest From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, Recently I picked up two of the hardest T59 backs (Puritan and Derby) of the Modena card. So, I've decided to add a new significant challenge to my collecting goals. I am now trying to get a nice copy of EVERY back variation (brand, colorand factory) of the T59 Modena flag card. There should be 35 different combination from what my research tells me, and if I'm correct, right now I only have two of the hardest ones to find andNONE of the easy ones. If you happen to have any extra T59 Modena flags sitting in your dupe box -please send them my way (and I'll make sure I return fire your way too!). Ps - I have a sneaky suspicion this is going to wind up as my third big stalled quest (my 1952 Topps - Damn you Pete Reiser!, my W572s, and then this one ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:41:48 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vegas meetup From: Rick Meetup with Lynn Miller and Rich Niessen today went to a mall for a little show picked up a few Kellogg's,72 fleers and killed the crane discs. This was my third trip to Vegas to see them always very enjoyable to talk with them and alway to short on time. Picked up a card for Brian that I have been looking for on eBay which should be my next meetup as long as he doesn't bail on the next show. Rich gave me two boxes of uv cards maybe 3000 cards that he says are on my lists so that will keep me busy for quite some time. Now if I don't go to far in the hole in the casino it will be a win-win. Thanks Lynn and Rich for taking time out of your day to spend it with me. Rick ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 23:02:23 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Topps 1952 Wings "Friend or Foe" cards Waiver list From: I've finally found a few minutes to put together the various lots I picked up of these guys. This started out as a quest to put together a set as a surprise retirement gift for a friend who is a huge airplane buff. But, in doing this I picked up enough dupes (and really liked the set) to put together my own set. I've added my needs to the bottom of my wantlist, and am offering up the 2nd level dupes as waiver wire flotsam and jetsam. Have at them. And, as usual, please save me some time and include your mailing address. For a few I have more than one duplicat 5 11 25 27 29 33 34 50 68 69 73 76 78 105 106 115 117 120 122 123 129 130 132 134 135 136 140 141 146 150 Bob N ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:34:59 -0400 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Help with a card From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 19:55:38 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card [2 Attachments] From: Ken M JD,  The corners on the card looked 'purposely rounded' to me, so I showed the pic to Kurt Tourdot. He also commented on the corners and hoped you didn't pay too much for it. That's what we thought of the scans. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Apr 22, 2017 7:36 PMTo: Obc Ranblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from JDahms included below] I recently picked this card and i am hoping one of you guys who are far more advanced in looking at cards can tell by my scans if this is a real card or a reprint. Thanks in advance for any help Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Attachment(s) from JDahms | View attachments on the web 2 of 2 Photo(s) 20170422_192628.jpg 20170422_192616.jpg Posted by: JDahms > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Visit Your Group ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 01:08:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Handshakes at Wilmington From: richard dingman I will try for Friday Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 3:26 PM To: Joel Freedman; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Handshakes at Wilmington I plan to be there Saturday Bob Donaldson On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:23 PM Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Who is going to the Wilmington show next weekend? http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/rich-altman-boston-show-2017 ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:45:47 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Handshakes at Wilmington From: OBC Nick P I intend to be there Friday and Saturday with a possibility of Sunday. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 22, 2017, at 9:08 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I will try for Friday > Richard D > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 3:26 PM > To: Joel Freedman; OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Handshakes at Wilmington > I plan to be there Saturday > Bob Donaldson >> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 3:23 PM Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Who is going to the Wilmington show next weekend? >> http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com/rich-altman-boston-show-2017 >> Joel ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:48:30 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1954 Red Heart Mickey Mantle From: Rick Looks good but believe it a reprint View item: 1954 Red Heart Mickey Mantle End Time: Apr 23, 2017, 7:32:18 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:49:20 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1954 Red Heart Baseball Complete set of 33 with Mantle PSA 4.5 From: Rick View item: 1954 Red Heart Baseball Complete set of 33 with Mantle PSA 4.5 End Time: May 22, 2017, 11:13:11 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:57:53 -0700 To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card [2 Attachments] From: Rick I agree the rounded corners cries reprint too hard to have 60 years of wearand have that nice of rounding. BUT two things it has going for it first the card is off centered second if You look at the two cards I just sent on the back the solid black line is thin on the real card On the fake card it's thick yours has a thin line so it very could be real!I would have some one Check it out you might be pleasantly surprised. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 22, 2017, at 4:34 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from JDahms included below] > I recently picked this card and i am hoping one of you guys who are far more advanced in looking at cards can tell by my scans if this is a real card or a reprint. > Thanks in advance for any help > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 02:32:55 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Wants , Subject: 1974 Topps Football Availables From: Dan Angland Here are some third period availables.. Please include address, thanks, Dan Angland 1974 Topps Football 17, 39, 56, 85, 103, 115, 164, 172, 198, 201, 214, 216, 225, 243, 252, 255, 289, 301, 326, 341, 343, 355, 363, 372, 385, 386, 394, 405, 428, 436, 442, 491, 492, 499, 525 Browns Checklist ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:32:08 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I agree with Ken. The corners seem to be too smooth, without evidence of fraying or "splitting" of the layers that were more common on older cardboard, or a top layer corner fold that most of us OBCers are familiar with. Tough to be certain, as I couldn't blow up the pic enough that it would stay Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/22/2017 7:55:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: The corners on the card looked 'purposely rounded' to me, so I showed the pic to Kurt Tourdot. He also commented on the corners and hoped you didn't pay too much for it. That's what we thought of the scans. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: JDahms_ jd3681@yahoo.com_ (mailto:%20jd3681@yahoo.com) Date: Sat, Apr 22, 2017 7:36 PM To: Obc Ranblings; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card [2 Attachments] I recently picked this card and i am hoping one of you guys who are far more advanced in l ooking at cards can tell by my scans if this is a real card or a reprint. Thanks in advance for any help Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone Attachment(s) from JDahms | _View attachments on the web _ (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/attachments/602719924;_ylcX3oDMTJxMmg3N 2 of 2 Photo(s) (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/attachments/602719924;_ylcX3oDMTJtazFxM2xtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIE (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/attachments/602719924;_ylcX3oDMTJtazFxM2xtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MT= (https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/attachments/602719924;_ylcX3oDMTJtazFxM2xtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIE Posted by: JDahms _> _ (mailto: Subject: Strongsville show report! From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 09:12:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card From: Yaz You guys know a lot more about this than I do but I'm wondering why the obviously rounded corners would lead you to say it was a reprint. Seems like kids and goofball adults have rounded corners forever for any such reasons on real cards as well as reprints. BTW, I did notice the black line on the reprint Rick showed almost touches the top of the bio while on the real one, there is quite a gap showing. On the card John shows it looks closer to the real one but of course who knows how many different reprints are out there? Someone may have done a better job. Greg (yaz) On 4/22/2017 11:32 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I agree with Ken. The corners seem to be too smooth, without evidence > of fraying or "splitting" of the layers that were more common on older > cardboard, or a top layer corner fold that most of us OBCers are > familiar with. Tough to be certain, as I couldn't blow up the pic > enough that it would stay clear. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 4/22/2017 7:55:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > JD, > The corners on the card looked 'purposely rounded' to me, so I > showed the pic to Kurt Tourdot. He also commented on the corners > and hoped you didn't pay too much for it. That's what we thought > of the scans. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > *From: *JDahmsjd3681@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Date: *Sat, Apr 22, 2017 7:36 PM > *To: *Obc Ranblings; > *Cc: * > *Subject:*[OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card [2 Attachments] > I recently picked this card and i am hoping one of you guys who > are far more advanced in l ooking at cards can tell by my scans if > this is a real card or a reprint. > Thanks in advance for any help > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > Attachment(s) from JDahms | View attachments on the web > > 2 of 2 Photo(s) > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/attachments/602719924;_ylc=X3oDMTJtazFxM2xtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTIzOTIwBHNlYwNhdHRhY2htZW50BHNsawNwaG90bwRzdGltZQMxNDkyOTA0MTgz?itemid=935534777 > > 20170422_192628.jpg > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/attachments/602719924;_ylc=X3oDMTJtazFxM2xtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTIzOTIwBHNlYwNhdHRhY2htZW50BHNsawNwaG90bwRzdG > ltZQMxNDkyOTA0MTgz?itemid9398317 > > 20170422_192616.jpg > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Posted by: JDahms > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > . ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Patrick Prickett Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 15:32:21 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A stupid new Non sports quest From: Taylor Schock What? Only 35 different for Modena? Was Modena part of the first 100 or 150? Or wasn't it in until the final 50 cards? For EVERY card ever made, I'm sure there are some combinations that don't exist. But I also came across anoverprint that wasn't listed in the ATC checklist. http://taylorsnonsportscards.weebly.com/tobacco-and-pre-1930s.html In any case, I'll do some checking to see if I have any for you. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:26 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A stupid new Non sports quest Hi All, Recently I picked up two of the hardest T59 backs (Puritan and Derby) of the Modena card. So, I've decided to add a new significant challenge to my collecting goals. I am now trying to get a nice copy of EVERY back variation (brand, color and factory) of the T59 Modena flag card. There should be 35 different combination from what my research tells me, and if I'm correct, right now I only have two of the hardest ones to find andNONE of the easy ones. If you happen to have any extra T59 Modena flags sitting in your dupe box -please send them my way (and I'll make sure I return fire your way too!). Ps - I have a sneaky suspicion this is going to wind up as my third big stalled quest (my 1952 Topps - Damn you Pete Reiser!, my W572s, and then this one ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:52:36 +0000 Subject: Landing a top 5 hit From: Mac Wubben ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:35:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: Aaron Shirley Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:55:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help with a card From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 14:34:07 -0400 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Huntoon Hey Mac, Nice job picking up a Mello Mint Lajoie. Awesome card man, Andy Huntoon On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Each year I try to knock off one card from the top 5 list...so count 2017 > a success. I landed an E105 Mello Mint Nap Lajoie in a trade yesterday, so > cross that one off of the list. Brian L's Lajoie is now safe from my futile > attempts to acquire it [image: =89]. One huge drawback is the > condition...it's an sgc 60. I am not comfortable with that...will probably > seek to downgrade if possible. Still, it's great crossing one of the > list. Of the remaining 4, I have actually seen a t213-3. The rest do > apparently exist. Now...need to figure out which card to add. > 1 Red Cross Tobacco Lajoie > 2 1927 Middy Bread Die-Cut Billy Southworth > 3 > 4 t213-3 Lajoie > 5 1911 Baseball Bats Lajoie > Mac ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 17:09:27 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Strongsville Show Report (part 2) From: cardclctor@aol.com Hi gang, I didn't get to type up a note yesterday because I didn't get back to the hotel until the wee hours of the morning... than I stayed up to update my list for today. I'll do a recap of both days, since there wasn't a lot to report about today - except one thing. I took my time getting over to the show because it was a short walk and a reasonably small show. I got in about an hour after it opened and immediately spent a fortune at William Chappelle's table finding cards to pay off future dental expenses. I then wandered over to Stan's cards, plopped myself down in front of his discount boxes and proceeded to pull out all his 1971 Kellogg's (football and baseball). I started the football set and continued to hoard any baseball I could find for under $3/card. I was successful to the tune of about 100 of them and Stan cut me a better deal on the price. I also picked up a few odd Hostess and hockey cards along the way throughout the show, but I was pretty much spent in more ways than one after a few hours. I did close out the show by chatting with dealers and a number of OBC'ers in attendance. Afterwards we all rejoined each other at the Sam Taylor museum/basement for pizza and assorted beverages. I think there were chicken wings too, but Mike Rich made short work of most of those. I got to look through a few dupes boxes and even pulled some stuff for my sets. I still don't think my lists are all that hard to hit. You guys constantly find suff I could use. Anyway, I also dished out a few cards and DS'ed a few others. The three Mantles Jerry Barnes bought from me proved to be a key deal, as it gave me some money to spend at the show today. I owe him big time for that. You'll find out why. Most of the guys (and dealers Kurt Tourdot and Marc Smith) had left by the time Joe Denning made it to Sam's, but we still spent a good 4 hours having a great time and swapping a few cards. I don't think I remembered to get anything to eat for most of the day, but I made up for it at Sam's by devouring two day's worth of calories including half a pizza and most of a plate of veggies and dip. The Sandman was getting ready to beat my brains in, so we reluctantly called it a night around 2 AM. I still stayed up to edit my list, since I now had some money to spend at the show. I woke up this morning around 9 and eventually made it to the show around 10 or 11. Stopped first at Uncle Dick's and bought a few odds and ends. I ended the show at his table yesterday and promised to return after only pulling one card. (To which he just told me to take it.) Didn't really buy a whole lot though. I spent most of the time chatting with the dealers and making plans to see them again next week in Boston (to the few that were making the trip)... or more likely at the National in a few months. The show was not very populated, unlike yesterday. The dealers were warned beforehand not to start packing up until the show closed at 4, so I had the floor mostly to myself with an hour to go. Then something incredible happened... I was making what was pretty much my last pass around the room when I paused at a table near the entrance. There was a box with 1952 Topps in it that I didn't really recall seeing there before. So on a whim, I poked around looking for those mid series gray backs. I had been looking for them throughout the show. One dealer saw me looking through his pile and said, "There's no high numbers or Kleenex cards in there." "Kleenex cards?" He told me there were cards 121-180 or something that came with Kleenex and had gray backs instead of white. I had never heard them called that before. Anyway, the cards in this box were in numerical order, so I skipped the low numbers (except Joe Page to see if it was the error) and thumbed up right past #132. I did a double take and realized that #131 AND #132 were BOTH gray backs! I then proceeded to pull out a DOZEN MORE of them - most marked between $6 and $12. In all, I got fourteen of them for a tad over $9 each. I think my hands were shaking when I was pulling out the money, trying to act cool. I'm still a little in shock. Next weekend, I'm going to put my PSA membership to good use before it runs out in July. I still have three free submissions to put in. I may be at the Wilmington show after all. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:08:37 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Cook I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 23 Apr 2017 23:26:25 +0000 To: Subject: Some post-Strongsville waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:03:00 -0400 To: Andy Cook Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Huntoon Out of curiosity, does it have the typical crease down the middle? On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:07:34 -0400 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Cook No, creasefree Sent from my iPad > On Apr 23, 2017, at 8:03 PM, Andy Huntoon wrote: > Out of curiosity, does it have the typical crease down the middle? > Andy >> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! >> Andy >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:08:49 -0400 To: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Show Report (part 2) From: Yahoo So you taking all the money had along with the lint in my wallet worked outfor Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2017, at 17:09, cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi gang, > I didn't get to type up a note yesterday because I didn't get back to the hotel until the wee hours of the morning... than I stayed up to update my list for today. I'll do a recap of both days, since there wasn't a lot toreport about today - except one thing. > I took my time getting over to the show because it was a short walk anda reasonably small show. I got in about an hour after it opened and immediately spent a fortune at William Chappelle's table finding cards to pay offfuture dental expenses. I then wandered over to Stan's cards, plopped myself down in front of his discount boxes and proceeded to pull out all his 1971 Kellogg's (football and baseball). I started the football set and continued to hoard any baseball I could find for under $3/card. I was successful to the tune of about 100 of them and Stan cut me a better deal on the price. I also picked up a few odd Hostess and hockey cards along the way throughout the show, but I was pretty much spent in more ways than one after a fewhours. I did close out the show by chatting with dealers and a number of OBC'ers in attendance. > Afterwards we all rejoined each other at the Sam Taylor museum/basement for pizza and assorted beverages. I think there were chicken wings too, but Mike Rich made short work of most of those. I got to look through a few dupes boxes and even pulled some stuff for my sets. I still don't think my lists are all that hard to hit. You guys constantly find suff I could use. Anyway, I also dished out a few cards and DS'ed a few others. The three Mantles Jerry Barnes bought from me proved to be a key deal, as it gave me some money to spend at the show today. I owe him big time for that. You'll find out why. > Most of the guys (and dealers Kurt Tourdot and Marc Smith) had left by the time Joe Denning made it to Sam's, but we still spent a good 4 hours having a great time and swapping a few cards. I don't think I remembered to get anything to eat for most of the day, but I made up for it at Sam's by devouring two day's worth of calories including half a pizza and most of a plate of veggies and dip. The Sandman was getting ready to beat my brains in,so we reluctantly called it a night around 2 AM. I still stayed up to editmy list, since I now had some money to spend at the show. > I woke up this morning around 9 and eventually made it to the show around 10 or 11. Stopped first at Uncle Dick's and bought a few odds and ends.I ended the show at his table yesterday and promised to return after only pulling one card. (To which he just told me to take it.) Didn't really buy a whole lot though. I spent most of the time chatting with the dealers and making plans to see them again next week in Boston (to the few that were making the trip)... or more likely at the National in a few months. The show was not very populated, unlike yesterday. The dealers were warned beforehand not to start packing up until the show closed at 4, so I had the floor mostly to myself with an hour to go. Then something incredible happened... > I was making what was pretty much my last pass around the room when I paused at a table near the entrance. There was a box with 1952 Topps in it that I didn't really recall seeing there before. So on a whim, I poked around looking for those mid series gray backs. I had been looking for them throughout the show. One dealer saw me looking through his pile and said, "There's no high numbers or Kleenex cards in there." "Kleenex cards?" He told methere were cards 121-180 or something that came with Kleenex and had gray backs instead of white. I had never heard them called that before. Anyway, the cards in this box were in numerical order, so I skipped the low numbers(except Joe Page to see if it was the error) and thumbed up right past #132. I did a double take and realized that #131 AND #132 were BOTH gray backs! I then proceeded to pull out a DOZEN MORE of them - most marked between $6 and $12. In all, I got fourteen of them for a tad over $9 each. I think my hands were shaking when I was pulling out the money, trying to act cool. I'm still a little in shock. Next weekend, I'm going to put my PSA membership to good use before it runs out in July. I still have three free submissions to put in. I may be at the Wilmington show after all. TAYL, > Ken M ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:20:44 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Cook I've owned about ten over the past twenty years and I estimate half had theexpected crease, half did not. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 23, 2017, at 8:13 PM, familytoad@comcast.net wrote: > Andy... > Mac showed me a scan...no crease, of course it's a SGC 60 (5) so you wouldn't expect it. > Strangely, while I have often heard the hobby story of the prevalent vertical crease , allegedly it folded around stick a gum, the two I own (Nap Lajoie & Honus Wagner) and a very high percentage of other e105 that I have seen...do NOT have the crease. > I don't think the crease should be called "typical " , in my experience it's not that common to see it. > Just my two cents! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Andy Cook > Cc: obc-ramblings > Sent: April 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit > Out of curiosity, does it have the typical crease down the middle? > Andy >> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! >> Andy >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:36:20 -0400 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Huntoon Very interesting to hear the crease is not as common as I thought it was. I guess I had just heard of it and seen it enough times to make it seem typical to me. I never put much stock in the story that the crease was from making the card able to fit in the gum packaging. I really like the Mello Mint backs but have never held one that wasn't slabbed. I'd really like to know what one feels like in person. I've heard they are more paper like than cardboard. On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:13 PM, wrote: > Andy... > Mac showed me a scan...no crease, of course it's a SGC 60 (5) so you > wouldn't expect it. > Strangely, while I have often heard the hobby story of the prevalent > vertical crease , allegedly it folded around stick a gum, the two I own > (Nap Lajoie & Honus Wagner) and a very high percentage of other e105 that > I have seen...do NOT have the crease. > I don't think the crease should be called "typical " , in my experience > it's not that common to see it. > Just my two cents! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *Andy Cook > *Cc: *obc-ramblings > *Sent: *April 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit > Out of curiosity, does it have the typical crease down the middle? > Andy > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! >> Andy >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:48:00 +0000 (UTC) To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: mark_macrae@comcast.net I've owned a few hundred E-105's over the years, including two 'outside thehobby' groups that turned up in the 90's. Each of those groups contained examples with and without the vertical crease, but also contained heavy duplication. About a dozen Lajoie, Hartsel, and a few others (I'd have to cheatand look at my album ). I still have about 40 different, but I also have acontemporary stick of gum and an advertising glassine envelope. If you fold the card vertically it would fit inside the gum wrapper... The glassine is large enough where you would not have to fold the card. This could be a partial explanation. In terms of typically encountered, I've seen about halfand half, along the lines of finding a Kahns or Red Man with the tab cut off... To answer your question on paper stock, they are printed on a paper than is thinner than Cracker Jack, but heavier than currency ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "" Cc: "Andy Cook" , "obc-ramblings" Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:36:20 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit Very interesting to hear the crease is not as common as I thought it was. Iguess I had just heard of it and seen it enough times to make it seem typical to me. I never put much stock in the story that the crease was from making the card able to fit in the gum packaging. I really like the Mello Mintbacks but have never held one that wasn't slabbed. I'd really like to knowwhat one feels like in person. I've heard they are more paper like than cardboard. On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:13 PM, < familytoad@comcast.net > wrote: Mac showed me a scan...no crease, of course it's a SGC 60 (5) so you wouldn't expect it. Strangely, while I have often heard the hobby story of the prevalent vertical crease , allegedly it folded around stick a gum, the two I own (Nap Lajoie & Honus Wagner) and a very high percentage of other e105 that I have seen...do NOT have the crease. I don't think the crease should be called "typical " , in my experience it's not that common to see it. Just my two cents! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Andy Cook Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: April 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit Out of curiosity, does it have the typical crease down the middle? On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]< OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > wrote: I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:16:17 -0400 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit From: Andy Cook They're very thin, thinner than a T206. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 23, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Andy Huntoon wrote: > Brian, > Very interesting to hear the crease is not as common as I thought it was.I guess I had just heard of it and seen it enough times to make it seem typical to me. I never put much stock in the story that the crease was from making the card able to fit in the gum packaging. I really like the Mello Mint backs but have never held one that wasn't slabbed. I'd really like toknow what one feels like in person. I've heard they are more paper like than > Andy >> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 8:13 PM, wrote: >> Andy... >> Mac showed me a scan...no crease, of course it's a SGC 60 (5) so you wouldn't expect it. >> Strangely, while I have often heard the hobby story of the prevalent vertical crease , allegedly it folded around stick a gum, the two I own (Nap Lajoie & Honus Wagner) and a very high percentage of other e105 that I haveseen...do NOT have the crease. >> I don't think the crease should be called "typical " , in my experience it's not that common to see it. >> Just my two cents! >> OBC Forever, >> Brian >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: Andy Cook >> Cc: obc-ramblings >> Sent: April 23, 2017 at 5:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Landing a top 5 hit >> Out of curiosity, does it have the typical crease down the middle? >> Andy >>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Andy Cook typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> I saw Mac's Lajoie, it's really cool! >>> Andy >>> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:23:07 -0400 To: Patrick Prickett Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A stupid new Non sports quest From: Mike Glasser Does Modena itself exist anymore? Mike Glasser The Goddard School 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD. 21152 > On Apr 23, 2017, at 7:12 PM, Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Taylor, > I posted on Net54 nonsports and was told 3 5 exist (I thought 31). Modena is series of 150. > I have no doubt that some of these 35 are HARD. In fact this is probablea fool's quest ... but what the heck. > Cheers, > Patrick > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 8:32 AM, "Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > What? Only 35 different for Modena? Was Modena part of the first 100 or 150? Or wasn't it in until the final 50 cards? For EVERY card ever made, I'msure there are some combinations that don't exist. But I also came across an overprint that wasn't listed in the ATC checklist. > http://taylorsnonsportscards.weebly.com/tobacco-and-pre-1930s.html > In any case, I'll do some checking to see if I have any for you. > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 6:26 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A stupid new Non sports quest > Hi All, > Recently I picked up two of the hardest T59 backs (Puritan and Derby) of the Modena card. > So, I've decided to add a new significant challenge to my collecting goals. > I am now trying to get a nice copy of EVERY back variation (brand, color and factory) of the T59 Modena flag card. > There should be 35 different combination from what my research tells me, and if I'm correct, right now I only have two of the hardest ones to find and NONE of the easy ones. > If you happen to have any extra T59 Modena flags sitting in your dupe box- please send them my way (and I'll make sure I return fire your way too!). > Thanks, > Patrick > Ps - I have a sneaky suspicion this is going to wind up as my third big stalled quest (my 1952 Topps - Damn you Pete Reiser!, my W572s, and then this one too). ================= Date: 24 Apr 2017 17:11:38 +0000 To: Subject: Need a tutorial! Post/Jello sets From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= To: , Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:24:40 -0400 Subject: 1942 Play Ball waivers From: "Matt Yudt" That's right. 1942 Play Ball. The 'set that never was', created by HRT/RES in 1976. Its in the SCD vintage book if your curious. I have a nice stack of dupes here - let me know if any team or player / type card interests and I would be happy to spread them around. (No Gehrig, Williams or Joe Dimaggio, although there is a Vince D) Inc address please ================= Date: 24 Apr 2017 22:28:03 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver Wire: 1958 Topps NY Giants Team #19 From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:39:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Waiver Wire: 1958 Topps NY Giants Team #19 From: Nathan Mack Claimed! Shawn Smart was the quick draw on this one! 3 mins! Cheers,Nate Mack ================= Date: 24 Apr 2017 23:09:01 +0000 To: Subject: Baseball card insurance From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:41:55 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Strongsville report From: OBC Nick P Well, in a word......the show and the weekend was interesting. If you're looking for thanks I posted those yesterday-I think- on the proper server. That's part of another story that I'll get to eventually. I woke up at 330 am Thursday and started my journey. Two easy flights later I landed in Dayton Ohio where I met up with Wes. We ran a couple errandsand went to his house where he was generous enough to put me up. His wifemade a delicious dinner. Wes and I ventured across Dayton to have a couple beers and watch some hockey. Tom housley joined us and added to the fun of the first day. After a short nap Wes and I drove up to strongsville. We hit the show. Cardboard was flying and lists were shrinking. I was primarily targeting my 1957 topps basketball set. It worked with 20 hits. I'd then move to cheaper lists like philly football and the like. After some miscommunication Wes, ken Morganti, and I went to longhorn steakhouse with dealer and personal friend kurt Tourdot. It was during this meal I found out something about society today. There are people amongst us that watch YouTube videos of somebody else playing a video game. I was dumbfounded. After a great meal Wes and I met up with jerry Barnes at our hotel. More cards started floating around and the BSing was flying. Again after a short nap we woke up and went to the show Saturday morning. More cardboard, more handshakes, and more fun. If accomplished most of thehits I wanted so I made it my quest to find a specific pair of cards birddogging. One of two wasn't bad. The highlight hit for me came from Mark Talbot with a 1965 topps paul Henderson.....the last card for my vintage topps hockey run. Crazy! After the show the contingent move east and descended on the man cave of Sam Taylor. Food, fun, friends, and cardboard. The group started to leave but Joe Denning hadn't arrived yet. A couple of us stuck around to meet up with Joe. He made it and we were there another two or three hours. It was at this point where the story gets really interesting. Wes and I left sams and ventured back to Dayton Ohio. Three and a half hours later I was at the Dayton airport. A couple hours later the flight to Chicago was full. I was on a standby ticket and didn't get a seat. Fast forward a couple more hours, and after some OBC thank you time, I got on a flight......toWashington DC. The last seat on the flight but I'm out of Dayton, and going the wrong direction. After five hours and a couple beers in DC I found out I wasn't getting to minneapolis just yet, or at all Sunday. After some dinner and a hotel room I took my first nap in 36 hours. It was good. I was finally able to get on a flight Monday morning. I'd made it home-24 hours later than planned but home is home. Three additional thank yous ill post with this are Thank you to Wes and his family for putting up with me and taking great care of me. Thank you to sam taylor for his amazing hospitality and a great party. Thank you to Tom housley for his sense of humor and photoshop ability. It made my amusing trip home even better! Thank you! Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:26:40 -0400 To: nmack03@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball card insurance From: Jake Brewer Im interested to hear this as well! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2017, at 7:09 PM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Greetings guys! > Do any of you carry baseball card insurance from a 3rd party that is NOT through your home owners policy? I have received quotes from 2 companies, Collectibles Insurance Services LLC and Cornell and Finklemeier. Have you dealt with either company and is there any feedback on either? Looking to get a supplement policy because my home owners policy would only be good for 5K, and replacing sets would quickly add up. > Thanks, > Nate Mack ================= Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:31:33 -0500 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball card insurance From: OBC Nick P I use American collectors out of New Jersey. I think it's a good move because many home owners policies only cover collections up to $2000-however-each state is different. I've never had a complaint about American collectors. I've never had to make a claim. I usually call them to pay my premiums and update the information. I find it very nice to say to an agent I added such and so a set or card and they know what it means. Premiums suck but are very reasonable for what they cover and how much theycover. I just don't like paying a bill for a product I hope to never use. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 24, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Im interested to hear this as well! > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 24, 2017, at 7:09 PM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Greetings guys! >> Do any of you carry baseball card insurance from a 3rd party that is NOTthrough your home owners policy? I have received quotes from 2 companies,Collectibles Insurance Services LLC and Cornell and Finklemeier. Have youdealt with either company and is there any feedback on either? Looking toget a supplement policy because my home owners policy would only be good for 5K, and replacing sets would quickly add up. >> Thanks, >> Nate Mack ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:18:47 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Baseball card insurance From: bskp1@aol.com I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:37:45 -0400 Subject: Nice article on collecting from 1945 From: "Bob Donaldson" Nice article on collecting from 1945 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=238775 ================= To: , Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:18:59 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: "Bob Donaldson" My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that's $5000 (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. My 2 cents Bob Donaldson From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:35:02 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en And if you lose your entire collection once in 50 years, you're $15,000 Insurance, whether auto, life, homeowners, etc, reduces/eliminates risk, providing peace of mind, etc. So you're getting value for your premium even if you never have a claim. But I agree it does not make sense to insure low value items. Another consideration for me: if I lost it all and recovered $20,000, I would think about using the funds to replace the cards. Without insurance, I definitely would not. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, obcbobd@gmail.com writes: My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that=E2=99s (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. My 2 cents Bob Donaldson From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:40:08 -0400 To: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: chris tripler Great point, Chuck. But it leads with a much more interesting question. If you found yourself suddenly with $20,000, what cards would you buy? I'd be pressed not to buy a '52 Mantle... Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:35 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > And if you lose your entire collection once in 50 years, you're $15,000 ahead. > Insurance, whether auto, life, homeowners, etc, reduces/eliminates risk, providing peace of mind, etc. So you're getting value for your premium even if you never have a claim. > But I agree it does not make sense to insure low value items. > Another consideration for me: if I lost it all and recovered $20,000, I would think about using the funds to replace the cards. Without insurance, Idefinitely would not. > Best regards, > Chuck > In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, obcbobd@gmail.com > My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that=E2=99s $5000 (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. > My 2 cents > Bob Donaldson > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance > I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separatepolicy. > I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. > Best regards, > Chuck Salek ================= To: , Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:51:29 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: "Bob Donaldson" I guess if the peace of mind is worth the $, then it makes sense for you. I=E2=99d rather the extra $100 a year to spend on cards From: BSKP1@aol.com [mailto:BSKP1@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:35 AM To: obcbobd@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance And if you lose your entire collection once in 50 years, you're $15,000 ahead. Insurance, whether auto, life, homeowners, etc, reduces/eliminates risk, providing peace of mind, etc. So you're getting value for your premium even if you never have a claim. But I agree it does not make sense to insure low value items. Another consideration for me: if I lost it all and recovered $20,000, I would think about using the funds to replace the cards. Without insurance, I definitely would not. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, obcbobd@gmail.com writes: My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that=E2=99s $5000 (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. My 2 cents Bob Donaldson From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bskp1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate policy. I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:46:17 -0400 To: cetripler@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en That's a tough one, Trip. Another consideration: if the cards were damaged, not destroyed; e.g., smoke-damaged in a fire or water-damaged as a result of a hurricane blowingmy roof off, the insurance would pay for the restoration, if they could be restored at all. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:40:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cetripler@yahoo.com writes: Great point, Chuck. But it leads with a much more interesting question. If you found yourself suddenly with $20,000, what cards would you buy? I'd be pressed not to buy a '52 Mantle... Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:35 AM, _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: And if you lose your entire collection once in 50 years, you're $15,000 Insurance, whether auto, life, homeowners, etc, reduces/eliminates risk, providing peace of mind, etc. So you're getting value for your premium even if you never have a claim. But I agree it does not make sense to insure low value items. Another consideration for me: if I lost it all and recovered $20,000, I would think about using the funds to replace the cards. Without insurance, I definitely would not. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _obcbobd@gmail.com_ (mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com) writes: My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that=E2=99s (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. My 2 cents Bob Donaldson From: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:02:00 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Not trying to convince anyone to buy insurance, just explaining my thought In the interest of full disclosure, I spent 40 years in the field of industrial insurance (as a Buyer, not a Seller). So it's fair to say that I have a bias. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:51:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, obcbobd@gmail.com writes: I guess if the peace of mind is worth the $, then it makes sense for you. I=E2=99d rather the extra $100 a year to spend on cards From: BSKP1@aol.com [mailto:BSKP1@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:35 AM To: obcbobd@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance And if you lose your entire collection once in 50 years, you're $15,000 Insurance, whether auto, life, homeowners, etc, reduces/eliminates risk, providing peace of mind, etc. So you're getting value for your premium even if you never have a claim. But I agree it does not make sense to insure low value items. Another consideration for me: if I lost it all and recovered $20,000, I would think about using the funds to replace the cards. Without insurance,I definitely would not. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _obcbobd@gmail.com_ (mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com) writes: My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that=E2=99s (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. My 2 cents Bob Donaldson From: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= To: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 10:02:20 -0500 Subject: Exhibit Card variation question From: "George Vrechek" Does anyone have, or has anyone seen an image of, either of the following exhibit cards with a blank back and printing on the front? I think they Brooks Robinson with "Printed in U.S.A." lower right and a blank back Joey Jay with "Made in U.S.A." lower right and a blank back George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:18:47 -0400 Subject: Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: "Bob Donaldson" I believe the following are going: Joel Freedman Nick Pelletier Richard Dingman (maybe Friday) Ken Morganti? Me (Sat morning) Anyone else? ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 12:31:10 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Quest From: "Thomas W. Billing" OK, I have another goal that appears unattainable-at least without a secondmortgage. I am collecting Cincinnati Reds cards from sets I do not have, and never will. I have them in all three Playball sets as well as the 1950=E2=99s Wheaties and RedMan sets. My last acquisition was the 1960=E2=99s Post sets, which included some lucky breaks on budget-buster SPs. I got the Red Heart and others. I am now going after the 1948 Leaf Reds. I have the four easy ones and just got a G condition of Johnny Wyrostek. This leads to what I need, and lowcondition is best for me of Hank Sauer and Bobby Adams, both of whom were SP and sport eye-popping eBay prices. If anyone knows of reasonable versions of either, I would be grateful. I was unable to get up to Strongsville and could not make the Chicago show in March. The next one I can get to (hopefully) is the November show in Chicago. Any help and advice on these two would be appreciated. Tom Billing ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:40:18 -0400 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re: Baseball Card Insurance From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I have insurance through Collectibles Insurance Services LLC They set up at the National each year. I=E2=99ve never had a claim. You get some coverage if items are lost in the mail but it requires using acertain level of mail service (example express mail with signature required is insured for your policy limit) (limit of insurance for regular first class mail no signature is just $200) I do not keep any cards in a bank safe deposit box, but I did learn that the bank does not insure items in a safe deposit box. This policy covers cards in your home or at the bank. ================= To: Bob Donaldson , "nachobcards@yahoo.com" Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:55:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:16:59 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: Joel Freedman Ok, Nick, what is your history? :) On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Are you sure you want to go, Nick? I mean... given your history... > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:18 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I believe the following are going: > Joel Freedman > Nick Pelletier > Richard Dingman (maybe Friday) > Ken Morganti? > Me (Sat morning) > Anyone else? ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:38:42 -0400 To: "Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: Ken M Let's just say that Nick uses Bugs Bunny directions and a trip to anywhere goes through Albequerque. Ken M - I don't know if he was in the group at the same time, but he must be channeling Al Cummings :-D Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Tue, Apr 25, 2017 4:17 PMTo: Aaron Shirley;Cc: Bob Donaldson;nachobcards@yahoo.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend Ok, Nick, what is your history?  :) On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   Are you sure you want to go, Nick? I mean... given your history...Aaron Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:18 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  I believe the following are going: Joel FreedmanNick PelletierRichard Dingman (maybe Friday)Ken Morganti?Me (Sat morning) Anyone else? ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:12:44 -0500 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: OBC Nick P Ok-here's the strongsville story from the trip home..... A friend of mine works with an airline. He allowed me to use some of his buddy passes to make the trip to Dayton Ohio and up to strongsville. He did this last last and this year. It's a cheap way to fly but you are not confirmed. You are at the bottom of the stand by list waiting and hoping for an available seat. No seat, no flight. Last year there was a major snow storm in Denver that screwed up the whole network. I was able to fly Dayton to Chicago. From there I had issues. Iwas only able to fly into Duluth Minnesota......about three hours north ofmy home, unlike the twin cities airport some 20 minutes away. Three friends shuttled me down the highway passing me along until I got home. Fast forward to last Sunday morning. Something happened, what I don't know, but flights Dayton to Chicago were booked solid. My only option out of Dayton was.....Washington Dulles, four hours after I missed the ohare flight. Ok, Dulles here I come! I make it to D.C. On a plane that may as well been made of balsa wood and paper clips but I'm in D.C. After a four hour layover I'm Artie gate waiting for the flight to Minneapolis. And it's full. Not just kind of full, asking volunteers to bump down and take a voucher. I didn't get on the flight despite my best efforts to negotiate a seat sitting in the restroom for the duration of the flight. No go! And that was the last flight of the day to Minneapolis. After dinner and a hotel room I get back to the hotel a few hours later andwait for a flight to Minneapolis. Success!!!! I got on! And I made it home only some twenty four hours later than initially expected but home is home. That's my story, my history. If I weren't so exhausted and so tired I'd have been laughing out loud. Only me. But I saved a couple bucks and it worked out very well. Would I do it again? I already did it a second time. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 25, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Ok, Nick, what is your history? :) >> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Are you sure you want to go, Nick? I mean... given your history... >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:18 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> I believe the following are going: >>> Joel Freedman >>> Nick Pelletier >>> Richard Dingman (maybe Friday) >>> Ken Morganti? >>> Me (Sat morning) >>> Anyone else? ================= To: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:13:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Nice article on collecting from 1945 From: "George Vrechek" David Kathman posts what he comes across on hobby history to share with the hobby. He lives in Chicago and I have met with him several times. He gets into the details. He is also an expert on early Shakesperian productions. We have shared info back and forth - although not on Shakespeare, since he is a non-sport and the other Shakespeare experts seem to get fairly agitated about the subject. George Vrechek ================= Date: 25 Apr 2017 23:34:19 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:46:09 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shriner's show in Wilmington MA this weekend From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en So it was you that made them take the doctor off kicking and screaming? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/25/2017 5:12:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Ok-here's the strongsville story from the trip home..... A friend of mine works with an airline. He allowed me to use some of his buddy passes to make the trip to Dayton Ohio and up to strongsville. He did this last last and this year. It's a cheap way to fly but you are not confirmed. You are at the bottom of the stand by list waiting and hoping for an available seat. No seat, no flight. Last year there was a major snow storm in Denver that screwed up the whole network. I was able to fly Dayton to Chicago. From there I had issues. I was only able to fly into Duluth Minnesota......about three hours north of my home, unlike the twin cities airport some 20 minutes away. Three friends shuttled me down the highway passing me along until I got home. Fast forward to last Sunday morning. Something happened, what I don't know, but flights Dayton to Chicago were booked solid. My only option outof Dayton was.....Washington Dulles, four hours after I missed the ohare flight. Ok, Dulles here I come! I make it to D.C. On a plane that may aswell been made of balsa wood and paper clips but I'm in D.C. After a four hour layover I'm Artie gate waiting for the flight to Minneapolis. And it's full. Not just kind of full, asking volunteers to bump down and take a voucher. I didn't get on the flight despite my best efforts to negotiate a sitting in the restroom for the duration of the flight. No go! And that was the last flight of the day to Minneapolis. After dinner and a hotel room I get back to the hotel a few hours later and wait for a flight to Minneapolis. Success!!!! I got on! And I made it home only some twenty four hours later than initially expected but home is That's my story, my history. If I weren't so exhausted and so tired I'd have been laughing out loud. Only me. But I saved a couple bucks and it worked out very well. Would I do it again? I already did it a second time. Nick Pelletier _Nachobcards@yahoo.com_ (mailto:Nachobcards@yahoo.com) On Apr 25, 2017, at 3:16 PM, Joel Freedman _jefreedman1@gmail.com_ (mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Ok, Nick, what is your history? :) On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Aaron Shirley _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Are you sure you want to go, Nick? I mean... given your history... Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2017, at 11:18 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' _obcbobd@gmail.com_ (mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@OBC-Ramblings-n_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I believe the following are going: Joel Freedman Nick Pelletier Richard Dingman (maybe Friday) Ken Morganti? Me (Sat morning) Anyone else? ================= Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 20:49:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en We have quite a few guys adept at restoring cards (as well as breaking them out of slabs!) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/25/2017 9:52:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: That's a tough one, Trip. Another consideration: if the cards were damaged, not destroyed; e.g., smoke-damaged in a fire or water-damaged as a result of a hurricane blowing roof off, the insurance would pay for the restoration, if they could be restored at all. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:40:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cetripler@yahoo.com writes: Great point, Chuck. But it leads with a much more interesting question. If you found yourself suddenly with $20,000, what cards would you buy? I'd be pressed not to buy a '52 Mantle... Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2017, at 9:35 AM, _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: And if you lose your entire collection once in 50 years, you're $15,000 Insurance, whether auto, life, homeowners, etc, reduces/eliminates risk, providing peace of mind, etc. So you're getting value for your premium even if you never have a claim. But I agree it does not make sense to insure low value items. Another consideration for me: if I lost it all and recovered $20,000, I would think about using the funds to replace the cards. Without insurance,I definitely would not. Best regards, In a message dated 04/25/2017 9:19:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _obcbobd@gmail.com_ (mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com) writes: My belief is that insurance is for things that would be catastrophic if lost: life, house. I would not put BB cards in that category. If I spend $100 for $20k in insurance every year from ages 30 through 80, that=E2=99s (more with compound interest) that could have been spent on BB cards over the course of my life. My 2 cents Bob Donaldson From: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:19 AM To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baseball card insurance I buy the coverage from my Homeowners' insurer (AIG) but under a separate I pay $100 per year for $20,000 in coverage. Best regards, Chuck Salek ================= Date: 26 Apr 2017 02:28:37 +0000 To: Subject: My Strongsville report From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 05:56:20 +0000 Subject: what's next? From: Aaron Shirley WHAT'S NEXT? We've done Donruss December, Fleer February, March Madness, Opening Day O-Pee-Chee... I'd really like to have a larger group participating in these, so perhaps it would help to get your input. Vote: Just send me an email back with which ones you'd like to participate in. You can vote for more than one, I suppose, if you're easy goin. The highest vote gets the nod. option 1) MINI MAY (1975 Topps Mini, definitely... but also 1948-52 Bowman,etc) option 2) MILTON BRADLEY MAY (1968-1972 Milton Bradley issues) option 3) MAY THE FOURTH be with you (all Star Wars issues) option 4) 1 month off. Wait until JELLO JUNE (Jello, Post, Post Canadian issues) option 5) 1 month off. Wait until JUMBO JUNE (1964 Giants, 1970-71 Supers, posters, If you don't know what this is, the short story is we do live, editable, shared wantlists on Google Sheets. We use a simple, sortable spreadsheet. Youcan add any lists you want to, and then if you pull some cards for someone, you can edit others' lists to reflect what we're sending them. And we generally try to choose a niche that is small but popular... so it's not overwhelming with the number of sets, but it's also very inclusive with the number of guys who could be working on it or who could have dupes to share. Formore info, just email me! Thanks guys ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:58:01 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Joel Freedman I recommend small lot May...... Post any vintage set that needs ten or less cards. Lets kill some sets. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > WHAT'S NEXT? > We've done Donruss December, Fleer February, March Madness, Opening Day > O-Pee-Chee... I'd really like to have a larger group participating in > these, so perhaps it would help to get your input. > *Vote: *Just send me an email back with which ones you'd like to > participate in. You can vote for more than one, I suppose, if you're easy > goin. The highest vote gets the nod. > option 1) MINI MAY (1975 Topps Mini, definitely... but also 1948-52 > Bowman, etc) > option 2) MILTON BRADLEY MAY (1968-1972 Milton Bradley issues) > option 3) MAY THE FOURTH be with you (all Star Wars issues) > option 4) 1 month off. Wait until JELLO JUNE (Jello, Post, Post Canadian > issues) > option 5) 1 month off. Wait until JUMBO JUNE (1964 Giants, 1970-71 Supers, > posters, pinups...) > If you don't know what this is, the short story is we do live, editable, > shared wantlists on Google Sheets. We use a simple, sortable spreadsheet. > You can add any lists you want to, and then if you pull some cards for > someone, you can edit others' lists to reflect what we're sending them. And > we generally try to choose a niche that is small but popular... so it's not > overwhelming with the number of sets, but it's also very inclusive with the > number of guys who could be working on it or who could have dupes to share. > For more info, just email me! > Thanks guys > Aaron ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:11:19 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Ken M Mighty close May orMissing a few MayThere should be a qualifier though. I have a bunch of sets that are really close, but I don't think listing 1963 Post Aspromonte, 1949 Bowman Roberts and Robinson RC's etc. is going to draw any action. There has to be commons or some hittable cards on there or we might as well take a month off. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Apr 26, 2017 3:58 PMTo: Aaron Shirley;Cc: OBC Ramblings;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? I recommend small lot May...... Post any vintage set that needs ten or less cards.  Lets kill some sets. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   WHAT'S NEXT?We've done Donruss December, Fleer February, March Madness, Opening Day O-Pee-Chee... I'd really like to have a larger group participating in these, so perhaps it would help to get your input.Vote: Just send me an email back with which ones you'd like to participate in. You can vote for more than one, I suppose, if you're easy goin. The highest vote gets the nod. option 1) MINI MAY (1975 Topps Mini, definitely... but also 1948-52 Bowman, etc)option 2) MILTON BRADLEY MAY (1968-1972 Milton Bradley issues) option 3) MAY THE FOURTH be with you (all Star Wars issues)option 4) 1 month off. Wait until JELLO JUNE (Jello, Post, Post Canadian issues) option 5) 1 month off. Wait until JUMBO JUNE (1964 Giants, 1970-71 Supers, posters, pinups...) If you don't know what this is, the short story is we do live, editable, shared wantlists on Google Sheets. We use a simple, sortable spreadsheet. You can add any lists you want to, and then if you pull some cards for someone, you can edit others' lists to reflect what we're sending them. And we generally try to choose a niche that is small but popular... so it's not overwhelming with the number of sets, but it's also very inclusive with the number of guys who could be working on it or who could have dupes to share. For more info, just email me! Thanks guys ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:40:32 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Doug DeJong I like that idea! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I recommend small lot May...... Post any vintage set that needs ten or less cards. Lets kill some sets. >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> WHAT'S NEXT? >> We've done Donruss December, Fleer February, March Madness, Opening Day O-Pee-Chee... I'd really like to have a larger group participating in these, so perhaps it would help to get your input. >> Vote: Just send me an email back with which ones you'd like to participate in. You can vote for more than one, I suppose, if you're easy goin. The highest vote gets the nod. >> option 1) MINI MAY (1975 Topps Mini, definitely... but also 1948-52 Bowman, >> option 2) MILTON BRADLEY MAY (1968-1972 Milton Bradley issues) >> option 3) MAY THE FOURTH be with you (all Star Wars issues) >> option 4) 1 month off. Wait until JELLO JUNE (Jello, Post, Post Canadianissues) >> option 5) 1 month off. Wait until JUMBO JUNE (1964 Giants, 1970-71 Supers, posters, pinups...) >> If you don't know what this is, the short story is we do live, editable,shared wantlists on Google Sheets. We use a simple, sortable spreadsheet. You can add any lists you want to, and then if you pull some cards for someone, you can edit others' lists to reflect what we're sending them. And we generally try to choose a niche that is small but popular... so it's not overwhelming with the number of sets, but it's also very inclusive with the number of guys who could be working on it or who could have dupes to share. For more info, just email me! >> Thanks guys >> Aaron ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:42:01 -0700 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: John Stamper I like that idea Joel!! John Stamper > On Apr 26, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I recommend small lot May...... Post any vintage set that needs ten or less cards. Lets kill some sets. >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> WHAT'S NEXT? >> We've done Donruss December, Fleer February, March Madness, Opening Day O-Pee-Chee... I'd really like to have a larger group participating in these, so perhaps it would help to get your input. >> Vote: Just send me an email back with which ones you'd like to participate in. You can vote for more than one, I suppose, if you're easy goin. The highest vote gets the nod. >> option 1) MINI MAY (1975 Topps Mini, definitely... but also 1948-52 Bowman, >> option 2) MILTON BRADLEY MAY (1968-1972 Milton Bradley issues) >> option 3) MAY THE FOURTH be with you (all Star Wars issues) >> option 4) 1 month off. Wait until JELLO JUNE (Jello, Post, Post Canadianissues) >> option 5) 1 month off. Wait until JUMBO JUNE (1964 Giants, 1970-71 Supers, posters, pinups...) >> If you don't know what this is, the short story is we do live, editable,shared wantlists on Google Sheets. We use a simple, sortable spreadsheet. You can add any lists you want to, and then if you pull some cards for someone, you can edit others' lists to reflect what we're sending them. And we generally try to choose a niche that is small but popular... so it's not overwhelming with the number of sets, but it's also very inclusive with the number of guys who could be working on it or who could have dupes to share. For more info, just email me! >> Thanks guys >> Aaron ================= Date: 26 Apr 2017 20:50:02 +0000 To: Subject: Wantlist help From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:54:43 -0400 To: TJ Valacak , Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help From: Joel Freedman Hey Wayne, can you help TJ? My answer would be to change the dash to a comma. :) On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hey gents, > I have some weird things going on with the wantlist. For some reason, > when I type a "-", initially it shows up on the wantlist as a "-", but I > have noticed that when I make a change elsewhere, on the wantlist and hit > refresh, that"-" changes to a =C3=90. It used to switch with some strange > looking n. This =C3=90 is just happening today. I don't even know whatthat > is, much less how to find it on the keyboard. > when I hit update, the printed text shows a "-". Not the =C3=90 > For example: > Here is what is displayed on my wantlist page: > 2017 Topps MLB Awards =C3=90 MOY2 Roberts > When I click to update so I can edit, it looks like this: > 2017 Topps MLB Awards - MOY2 Roberts > I have only noticed this happening on my Red Sox Championship project page. > Any help is appreciated ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:01:19 -0500 To: wayne.m.delia@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help From: t j valacak Content-Disposition: inline Shouldn't be happening. I've had the dash on my wantlists for years. A few weeks ago, some of the dashes turned to a weird n. Today, all those n's turned to the crazy D. Along with some other lines that turned from a "-" to aD today. Some lines still have the "-". When I first updated today, I noticed the 2017 lines switch from "-" to a D. I have tried to correct them by deleting and retyping. Has not seemed to help. Makes no sense to me. TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: tvalacak@comcast.net,wayne.m.delia@gmail.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-04-26 4:06:46 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help Hey Wayne, can you help TJ? My answer would be to change the dash to a comma. :) On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net (mailto:tvalacak@comcast.net) [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey gents, > I have some weird things going on with the wantlist. For some reason, when I type a "-", initially it shows up on the wantlist as a "-", but I have noticed that when I make a change elsewhere, on the wantlist and hit refresh, that"-" changes to a =C3=90. It used to switch with some strange lookingn. This =C3=90 is just happening today. I don't even know what that is, much less how to find it on the keyboard. > when I hit update, the printed text shows a "-". Not the =C3=90 > For example: > Here is what is displayed on my wantlist page: > 2017 Topps MLB Awards =C3=90 MOY2 Roberts > When I click to update so I can edit, it looks like this: > 2017 Topps MLB Awards - MOY2 Roberts > I have only noticed this happening on my Red Sox Championship project page. > Any help is appreciated ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:07:39 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help From: Wayne Delia Looks like a strange glitch - everything's ultimately fixable, but this may take a while. I'm about to leave for a rehearsal for Beethoven's Ninth Symphony (concert this weekend with the Hudson Valley Philharmonic), and should have it fixed around 10PM tonight. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Joel Freedman > Hey Wayne, can you help TJ? > My answer would be to change the dash to a comma. :) > Regards > Joel > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Hey gents, >> I have some weird things going on with the wantlist. For some reason, >> when I type a "-", initially it shows up on the wantlist as a "-", but I >> have noticed that when I make a change elsewhere, on the wantlist and hit >> refresh, that"-" changes to a =C3=90. It used to switch with some strange >> looking n. This =C3=90 is just happening today. I don't even know what >> that is, much less how to find it on the keyboard. >> when I hit update, the printed text shows a "-". Not the =C3=90 >> For example: >> Here is what is displayed on my wantlist page: >> 2017 Topps MLB Awards =C3=90 MOY2 Roberts >> When I click to update so I can edit, it looks like this: >> 2017 Topps MLB Awards - MOY2 Roberts >> I have only noticed this happening on my Red Sox Championship project >> page. >> Any help is appreciated ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:17:07 -0400 To: t j valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help From: "Thomas W. Billing" It is in going from an old font to a new one. E.g., here is the way this song in our Excel band library doc looks after bringing it over from an Appleworks doc where it was created: Isn=C3=95t It Romantic It is supposed to be an apostrophe and Heaven knows what this goofy thing is. All throughout this doe, this happens for EVERY apostrophe. Why is a million dollar question. Welcome to tech 2017. Tom Billing > On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:01 PM, t j valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Shouldn't be happening. I've had the dash on my wantlists for years. A few weeks ago, some of the dashes turned to a weird n. Today, all those n's turned to the crazy D. Along with some other lines that turned from a "-" toa D today. Some lines still have the "-". > When I first updated today, I noticed the 2017 lines switch from "-" to aD. > I have tried to correct them by deleting and retyping. Has not seemed to help. > Makes no sense to me. > TJ Valacak > -----Original Message----- > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > To: tvalacak@comcast.net,wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: 2017-04-26 4:06:46 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help > Hey Wayne, can you help TJ? > My answer would be to change the dash to a comma. :) > Regards > Joel > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > Hey gents, > I have some weird things going on with the wantlist. For some reason, when I type a "-", initially it shows up on the wantlist as a "-", but I havenoticed that when I make a change elsewhere, on the wantlist and hit refresh, that"-" changes to a =C3=90. It used to switch with some strange looking n. This =C3=90 is just happening today. I don't even know what that is, much less how to find it on the keyboard. > when I hit update, the printed text shows a "-". Not the =C3=90 > For example: > Here is what is displayed on my wantlist page: > 2017 Topps MLB Awards =C3=90 MOY2 Roberts > When I click to update so I can edit, it looks like this: > 2017 Topps MLB Awards - MOY2 Roberts > I have only noticed this happening on my Red Sox Championship project page. > Any help is appreciated ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:48:46 -0500 To: billingtw@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help From: t j valacak Content-Disposition: inline What I saw change today, the 2017 listing, have been on my wantlist for a few weeks. I've updated the wantlist since then multiple times. Other entries were messed up, but the 2017 was fine. Until today. It's strange. This isn't an emergency issue. Please take your time and take a look when it's convenient for you. TJ Valacak -----Original Message----- From: billingtw@sbcglobal.net To: tvalacak@comcast.net Cc: wayne.m.delia@gmail.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-04-26 5:19:12 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help It is in going from an old font to a new one. E.g., here is the way this song in our Excel band library doc looks after bringing it over from an Appleworks doc where it was created: Isn=C3=95t It Romantic It is supposed to be an apostrophe and Heaven knows what this goofy thing is. All throughout this doe, this happens for EVERY apostrophe. Why is a million dollar question. Welcome to tech 2017. Tom Billing > On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:01 PM, t j valacak tvalacak@comcast.net (mailto:tvalacak@comcast.net) [OBC-Ramblings] > Shouldn't be happening. I've had the dash on my wantlists for years. A few weeks ago, some of the dashes turned to a weird n. Today, all those n's turned to the crazy D. Along with some other lines that turned from a "-" toa D today. Some lines still have the "-". > When I first updated today, I noticed the 2017 lines switch from "-" to aD. > I have tried to correct them by deleting and retyping. Has not seemed to help. > Makes no sense to me. > TJ Valacak > -----Original Message----- > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > To: tvalacak@comcast.net (mailto:tvalacak@comcast.net),wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: 2017-04-26 4:06:46 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wantlist help > Hey Wayne, can you help TJ? > My answer would be to change the dash to a comma. :) > Regards > Joel > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 4:50 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net (mailto:tvalacak@comcast.net) [OBC-Ramblings] > > > > > > Hey gents, > > > > > > I have some weird things going on with the wantlist. For some reason, when I type a "-", initially it shows up on the wantlist as a "-", but I have noticed that when I make a change elsewhere, on the wantlist and hit refresh, that"-" changes to a =C3=90. It used to switch with some strange looking n. This =C3=90 is just happening today. I don't even know what that is, much less how to find it on the keyboard. > > > > > > when I hit update, the printed text shows a "-". Not the =C3=90 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > > > Here is what is displayed on my wantlist page: > > > > > > 2017 Topps MLB Awards =C3=90 MOY2 Roberts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I click to update so I can edit, it looks like this: > > > > > > 2017 Topps MLB Awards - MOY2 Roberts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have only noticed this happening on my Red Sox Championship project page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help is appreciated > > > > > > > > ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:46:04 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Autograph help From: Bob Donaldson Any idea who's autograph is? I believe it's someone from the all century team. It was obtained at the 99 all star game ================= Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 00:10:46 +0000 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: Bob Donaldson On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM JAY TYSVER wrote: > Can't see a link > Jay Tysver > On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Any idea who's autograph is? I believe it's someone from the all century > team. It was obtained at the 99 all star game > Thanks > Bob ================= To: Bob Donaldson Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:57:41 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: JAY TYSVER ================= To: "'Joel Freedman'" , Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:20:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: "Matt Yudt" How about TCMAy? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 3:58 PM To: Aaron Shirley Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? I recommend small lot May...... Post any vintage set that needs ten or lesscards. Lets kill some sets. On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: WHAT'S NEXT? We've done Donruss December, Fleer February, March Madness, Opening Day O-Pee-Chee... I'd really like to have a larger group participating in these, so perhaps it would help to get your input. Vote: Just send me an email back with which ones you'd like to participate in. You can vote for more than one, I suppose, if you're easy goin. The highest vote gets the nod. option 1) MINI MAY (1975 Topps Mini, definitely... but also 1948-52 Bowman,etc) option 2) MILTON BRADLEY MAY (1968-1972 Milton Bradley issues) option 3) MAY THE FOURTH be with you (all Star Wars issues) option 4) 1 month off. Wait until JELLO JUNE (Jello, Post, Post Canadian issues) option 5) 1 month off. Wait until JUMBO JUNE (1964 Giants, 1970-71 Supers, posters, If you don't know what this is, the short story is we do live, editable, shared wantlists on Google Sheets. We use a simple, sortable spreadsheet. Youcan add any lists you want to, and then if you pull some cards for someone, you can edit others' lists to reflect what we're sending them. And we generally try to choose a niche that is small but popular... so it's not overwhelming with the number of sets, but it's also very inclusive with the number of guys who could be working on it or who could have dupes to share. Formore info, just email me! Thanks guys ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 22:10:14 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: Steve Looks like it could be Scott Rolen, Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:10 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM JAY TYSVER wrote: >> Can't see a link >> Jay Tysver >> On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Any idea who's autograph is? I believe it's someone from the all century team. It was obtained at the 99 all star game >>> Thanks >>> Bob ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 02:15:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 22:35:10 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ron Estes From: ChicoD1@aol.com Just noticed that Ron Estes has mysteriously disappeared from the OBC dealer page. May have happened when Ted Holden was added. Can the powers that be please correct this for us? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:50:51 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings , "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Re: Wantlist help From: Wayne Delia T.J. - I cleaned up your wantlist by changing the "=C3=90" characters to normal dashes, then saving it on the OBC web server. It looks pretty good now. I displayed your want list, tried editing it by adding a few lines with dashes, and it all looked fine. I don't think I'm able to reproduce the problem (to determine where the "=C3=90" characters came from). If you've got your wantlist saved in a local document on your computer (generally a good idea to do), and you're copying and pasting it from whatever word processing program you're using, that might make use of a different font, like a character appearing to be a dash in the word processor, but has the hex value of x'D2' (I think) which gets mangled to the "=C3=90" character when you paste it into the text input box for your want list when you're updating it. This could happen in many different word processing programs, like Microsoft Word, OpenOffice, or other programs. I regularly use a flat-file editing program like Microsoft Notepad or Wordpad (both available in Windows) to avoid converting normal symbols into strange ================= To: "'Aaron Shirley'" , Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:54:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: "Bob Donaldson" A guy gave it to my friend. This guy went to some corporate event and had a lot of players sign the program including: Juan Marichial Johnny Pesky Fergeson Jenkins Rollie Fingers Luis Tiant Ralph Kiner Ricky Henderson Bobby Doerr Robin Yount Steve Carleton Bernie Carbo Lou Groman (Red Sox GM) Fred Lynn Steve Garvey Under each player he wrote the players name. Except this one autograph. Scott Rolen was not on the 1999 AS team, And based on a google search, it doesn=E2=99t look like his. I=E2=99ve posted this to the Net54 Autograph Forum. I=E2=99ll let you know if I hear anything From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:15 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help I researched this for a long time. Who was on the All Century Ballot? Who was on the 1999 ASG rosters? Who even sang at the game? Who wore the number 11? All dead ends. Looks like Scott R. But looks NOTHING like any Scott Rolen autos. This is bugging me!!! Who the heck is that? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM JAY TYSVER > wrote: Can't see a link Jay Tysver On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Any idea who's autograph is? I believe it's someone from the all century team. It was obtained at the 99 all star game ================= Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:59:10 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: Joel Freedman Scott Rolen never wore number 11. On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:54 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > A guy gave it to my friend. This guy went to some corporate event and had > a lot of players sign the program including: > Juan Marichial > Johnny Pesky > Fergeson Jenkins > Rollie Fingers > Luis Tiant > Ralph Kiner > Ricky Henderson > Bobby Doerr > Robin Yount > Steve Carleton > Bernie Carbo > Lou Groman (Red Sox GM) > Fred Lynn > Steve Garvey > Under each player he wrote the players name. Except this one autograph. > Scott Rolen was not on the 1999 AS team, And based on a google search, it > doesn=E2=99t look like his. I=E2=99ve posted this to the Net54 Autograph > I=E2=99ll let you know if I hear anything > Thanks > Bob > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@ > yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:15 PM > *To:* obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help > I researched this for a long time. > Who was on the All Century Ballot? > Who was on the 1999 ASG rosters? > Who even sang at the game? > Who wore the number 11? > All dead ends. > Looks like Scott R. But looks NOTHING like any Scott Rolen autos. > This is bugging me!!! Who the heck is that? > [image: image1.JPG] > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM JAY TYSVER wrote: > Can't see a link > Jay Tysver > On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Any idea who's autograph is? I believe it's someone from the all century > team. It was obtained at the 99 all star game > Thanks > Bob ================= To: Bob Donaldson , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:48:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help From: Aaron Shirley Continued research, and it looks like there are 29 Scott R guys and 53 Scott B guys. From scanning through those lists, I couldn't tell you whether any of them might have happened to be at the 1999 All-Star Game. And of course, there's the real chance, especially considering the added spectacle of it being the All-Century celebration, someone saw a non-roster baseball guy or even non-baseball celebrity there and asked for their autograph. I know for one that if I saw Scott Bakula or Scott Baio at a game, I'd probably ask for his autograph. BTW, this doesn't match those guys either. I checked. I mean, I'm no autograph expert, but I do try to do my fair share of research when I can... Still wondering. From: Bob Donaldson Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 7:54 AM To: 'Aaron Shirley'; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help A guy gave it to my friend. This guy went to some corporate event and had a lot of players sign the program including: Juan Marichial Johnny Pesky Fergeson Jenkins Rollie Fingers Luis Tiant Ralph Kiner Ricky Henderson Bobby Doerr Robin Yount Steve Carleton Bernie Carbo Lou Groman (Red Sox GM) Fred Lynn Steve Garvey Under each player he wrote the players name. Except this one autograph. Scott Rolen was not on the 1999 AS team, And based on a google search, it doesn=92t look like his. I=92ve posted this to the Net54 Autograph Forum. I=92ll let you know if I hear anything From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 10:15 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Autograph help I researched this for a long time. Who was on the All Century Ballot? Who was on the 1999 ASG rosters? Who even sang at the game? Who wore the number 11? All dead ends. Looks like Scott R. But looks NOTHING like any Scott Rolen autos. This is bugging me!!! Who the heck is that? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM JAY TYSVER > Can't see a link Jay Tysver On Apr 26, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Any idea who's autograph is? I believe it's someone from the all century team. It was obtained at the 99 all star game ================= Date: 27 Apr 2017 16:21:43 +0000 To: Subject: Assorted Waiver Wire... From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 09:50:34 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 64 mick From: Rick Today brought a huge hit to the 64 Venezuelan set in way better shape than I thought I would ever get. Rick ================= Date: 27 Apr 2017 17:35:08 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Assorted Waiver Wire... From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: 27 Apr 2017 18:11:55 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Assorted Waiver Wire... From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 17:32:54 -0600 (MDT) To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 64 mick From: GRANT RAINSLEY Thank God Billy Hoeft only had one.......(that I know of..) From: "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 4:00:51 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 64 mick I suppose that Rick's Venezuelan Collection is the penultimate within both OBC and the Pacific Northwest. Maybe amongst the tops in the USA! I'll admit that I have none...and if I stumbled across two , I'd likely immediately send one to him, thereby allowing me NOT to collect the set based on the Rich Rule. If I kept one, I could call it a type card, although I somewhat abandoned that effort awhile ago. Trouble with having a type card is that someone might send you another and you'd be back to step 1 with the Rich Rule. The problems we have in OBC are real! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: April 27, 2017 at 9:52 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 64 mick [2 Attachments] [ Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Today brought a huge hit to the 64 Venezuelan set in way better shape than I thought I would ever get. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:10:35 -0600 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waiver wire '64 Giants - claim away! From: James Silva Hey gents, I went through everyone=E2=99s lists who have the =E2=9964 Giants listed under =E2=9CWho Collects What=E2=9D and hit everyone I could. SO now I have some =E2=9964 Giants left and I figured I would try out this waiver wire concept thingy. So have at =E2em even if you just not thought, =E2=9CHey, I should start that set because it=E2=99s really cool!=E2=9D Jim =E2=9CEl Fuego=E2=9D Silva #25 #4 Bailey #14 Gonzalez #16 Chance (2) #27 Brinkman (2) #32 Pascual #33 Ward (3) ================= Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 23:24:16 -0400 To: "obc-national@yahoogroups.com" Subject: National starts in 88 Days! From: Ken M    Let's kick off some National talk! I'm sending this to Ramblings and dusting off the National server as well. If you plan on going or just want to sit in on the chatter and be there vicariously, let me know and I can add you to the National server.  As a reminder, this year's show is in Chicago from July 26-30th. At OBC, we have taken a lot of the stressful planning details out of the equation. All you really need to do is show up! I have booked a room with two beds at a Motel 6 already. So far, I have Wes and Jerry confirmed as potential room mates, but I'm not sure if they will both be there at the same time. I may have room for one more in any case, since I'm pretty sure they both prefer to sleep on the floor :-)  I will be driving there, so I will have room for 3 more to carpool to the show (or 6 more if we ride a little more uncomfortably). There should be a few others with transportation though. Sal usually starts making the list a few weeks out, but if you have plans, send them to the server and others can add the info as we go along instead of all at once.   I'll give it a week or two, then throw my plans out there and try to come up with a checklist of things to bring to the show. This will be a handy guide for first timers as well as veterans with poor memories :-) Start making your own plans soon. Hope a whole bunch of you will consider joining us! TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:10:03 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Trapped in Ohio, Time to kill some sets... From: chris tripler I'm trapped in a Home Away apartment in Cincinnati, Ohio (for a wedding) with thunderstorms on the outside, and 2 screaming children and a losing-patience wife on the inside... So, to wile away the time, I got a best offer PSA 3 '58T Mantle/Aaron on eBay and a best offer '58 May AS on COMC to finish off the '58 Topps set justin time for dad's birthday tomorrow. This is the first set of the top 3 set goals for 2017, which is amazing. Also, a great time to thank all the OBCbrethern that helped this set along over the past 2.5 years. This set is abig one, so we're happy to finish it off! Also, had enough left over credit to knock off 4 '65T Embosseds including Santo and B. Robinson. Then, in celebration I offered a ridiculous Best Offer for a lot of 85 OPC Deckles ('69) and got it. There are a ton of dupes in this Tipton lot, so if you have a WL for this set, or interested in getting some of these eitheras a starter lot or type cards...I will get you some... Dad and I have been so happy being part of OBC, so a general thanks to all!You guys rock! Cheers,TripOBC 2015 ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 07:46:35 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Help From: Rick Is this anything? Anybody have any info Rick ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 10:48:33 -0400 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Trapped in Ohio, Time to kill some sets... From: Doug DeJong I, too, am trapped in Cincinnati. Lots of rain, thunder and wind. Have most of the OPC Deckle set but haven't added a hit for a long time. I havesome dupes as well if you didn't get a complete set. Came to visit my daughter for the weekend, and it just happens that the Moeller show is in town (not a coincidence). We swung by last night - my daughters first card show and she was enthralled - and will try to get a show update out to OBC soon. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 29, 2017, at 10:10 AM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm trapped in a Home Away apartment in Cincinnati, Ohio (for a wedding) with thunderstorms on the outside, and 2 screaming children and a losing-patience wife on the inside... > So, to wile away the time, I got a best offer PSA 3 '58T Mantle/Aaron on eBay and a best offer '58 May AS on COMC to finish off the '58 Topps set just in time for dad's birthday tomorrow. This is the first set of the top 3 set goals for 2017, which is amazing. Also, a great time to thank all the OBC brethern that helped this set along over the past 2.5 years. This set isa big one, so we're happy to finish it off! > Also, had enough left over credit to knock off 4 '65T Embosseds includingSanto and B. Robinson. > Then, in celebration I offered a ridiculous Best Offer for a lot of 85 OPC Deckles ('69) and got it. There are a ton of dupes in this Tipton lot, soif you have a WL for this set, or interested in getting some of these either as a starter lot or type cards...I will get you some... > Dad and I have been so happy being part of OBC, so a general thanks to all! You guys rock! > Cheers, > Trip > OBC 2015 ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:28:29 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help [1 Attachment] From: Anson Whaley Hey Rick - That looks like a replica of his N173 Old Judge Cabinet Card. Possibly a blown up one. The originals were about 4" x 6". On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 10:46 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_-8664303760512283376_TopText> from Rick included below] > Is this anything? Anybody have any info Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:23:33 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Identification Help From: Patrick Prickett I picked these up and have no clue what they are. Anyone know what these are? (The only clue I can give is that they came from Canada) ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:15:06 -0600 To: James Silva Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waiver wire '64 Giants - claim away! From: James Silva Here is what I have left of the =E2=9964 Topps Giants after one claim. Anyone else interested? > #4 Bailey > #14 Gonzalez > #16 Chance (2) > #27 Brinkman (2) > #32 Pascual > #33 Ward (2) Jim =E2=9CEl Fuego=E2=9D Silva #25 > On Apr 28, 2017, at 8:10 PM, James Silva jfsilva25@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey gents, > I went through everyone=E2=99s lists who have the =E2=9964 Giants listed under =E2=9CWho Collects What=E2=9D and hit everyone I could. SO now I have some =E2=9964 Giants left and I figured I would try out this waiver wire concept thingy. So have at =E2em even if you just not thought, =E2=9CHey, I should start that set because it=E2=99s really cool!=E2=9D > Jim =E2=9CEl Fuego=E2=9D Silva #25 > #4 Bailey > #14 Gonzalez > #16 Chance (2) > #27 Brinkman (2) > #32 Pascual > #33 Ward (2) ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:57:24 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Holding Pattern From: ShoelessWes My Strongsville show thanks is postponed. A super busy week resulted in my wife's younger brother passing away yesterday. He was found by her other younger brother. The police ruled it self inflicted. Hopefully it was painless, he used the car exhaust to suffocate. Paul Broughton was 30, and never hurt anyone in his life. He never exhibited symptoms of great pain or depression. He always helped me if I had a big job to do at my house, and never let me compensate him. He loved cars, motorcycles, and liked target shooting. He was one of Nolan's favorite uncles. He was like a brother to me. Wes Shepard ================= Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:06:28 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Holding Pattern From: ShoelessWes Everyone, thanks Wes Shepard > On Apr 29, 2017, at 5:57 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > My Strongsville show thanks is postponed. A super busy week resulted in my wife's younger brother passing away yesterday. He was found by her other younger brother. The police ruled it self inflicted. Hopefully it was painless, he used the car exhaust to suffocate. > Paul Broughton was 30, and never hurt anyone in his life. He never exhibited symptoms of great pain or depression. He always helped me if I had a big job to do at my house, and never let me compensate him. He loved cars, motorcycles, and liked target shooting. He was one of Nolan's favorite uncles. He was like a brother to me. > Wes Shepard