================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 16:01:14 -0800 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need some advice on 1968 Topps Milton Bradley.... From: Rick Not an active collector or expert on them only pick them up when I run intothem in other 68 commons. And yes most of mine would be in the vg range and the other issue is they are off center to see the white stripe so I have never paid more than .25-.50 for commons. If someone would list them at $2-3 each I would pass on them. My two cents and take it with a grain of salt.Rick Sent from my iPad > On Jan 31, 2017, at 12:44 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Jimi, > If you get the lot, what price range were you thinking for the near sets, including Aaron, etc., missing the Ryan? Amazingly, this is 1 issue I have not yet pursued and may be interested, if the price is right. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 10:46 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I need some advice on 1968 Topps Milton Bradley.... > Hey guys, > I need some advice, and I really hope that it's ok to post this question here. I have an opportunity to buy a hoard....yes, a HOARD of 1968 Topps Milton Bradley cards (nearly 1,000 of them!). At least, I guess that would beconsidered a hoard for a set that is only 77 cards deep. All cards from the set would be included in the deal, EXCEPT for the Ryan RC. I believe I'd be getting around 14 Hank Aarons, and similar numbers for most other cards.I'm pretty excited.....BUT...... > I have only ever had a couple of these cards before, and I've never sold any, so I'm afraid of losing a ton of money on this deal. This lot will NOTcome cheap, so I guess what I'm asking is if there is enough interest hereat OBC for me to be grabbing them. If I don't have enough interest, I think it would be unwise for me to go on a shopping spree. I'd also be keepinga set for myself, of course....minus the Ryan. Another HUGE plus......is that most cards are VGEX to EXMT. My understanding is, since these were usedas part of a game, they are often in VG or worse. I know the couple I had before were around G/VG. Thoughts there? It seems like commons on EBay are around $2-3 per. Is that what you guys are paying. I just don't want to make a dumb mistake here. LOL > Had these been regular 1968 Topps cards, I wouldn't be saying anything, but I figured this would be something OBC would want to jump on and I'd be able to help a ton of you out. LMK your thoughts, guys. > OBC forever, > Jimi > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 00:25:33 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Feb Waiver Wire From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- Here's a few that are sitting around my closet: 1959 Topps:#377 Johnny Antonelli 1972 Topps:#639 JC Martin#643 Russ Gibson#644 Bernie Allen#656 Rudy May#662 Stan Bahnsen Let me know if you want any of them, and please include an address. Preference to guys I haven't hit, or at least not that much! Take Care,Geno ================= To: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:08:01 -0800 Subject: Greg Boivin..... From: "Grant Rainsley" Anyone traded with him? Met him on Net 54, haven't yet struck any deal, but working on it....I'm in the preliminary stages, but so far he sounds like OBC material, likes mid-grade..but you guys are just chock full of Thanks, Grant ================= To: , Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:12:22 -0800 Subject: AVAILABLES - WAIVER WIRE From: "George Vrechek" I brought some duplicates along with me to California. I have been checking wantlists to see if anyone needed them. However, it is easy to overlook the myriad of lists. Let's see if anyone needs any of the following out of the box. They are generally in OK shape, nothing mint, but not poor. No big names, other than Aurelio Monteagudo whose name has 17 letters. 1970 Topps 12 14 24 25 27 28 34 39 43 59 83 91 103 110 111 113 118 123 126 128 129 142 156 167 168 173 184 187 209 232 244 257 277 284 296 316 319 322 344 361 363 376 384 401 421 432 447 542 1971 Topps 7 17 21 28 37 43 47 74 87 97 105 123 129 131 135 161 206 218 221 231 248 299 321 473 1965 Philadelphia 30 95 118 134 163 186 193 1970 Topps 14 19 33 34 36 42 67 68 91 100 105 107 113 127 1970 Topps Game cards 2 8 9 20 23 32 36 41 1971 Topps 4 29 32 33 34 42 49 52 59 62 65 66 68 72 74 81 82 85 95 98 100 115 116 118 121 122 126 129 137 1976 Wonder Bread 7 10 13 14 1972-73 4 25 90 160 162 202 205 334 1979-80 44 65 73 117 148 If I have a few takers, I'll try to spread them around. Please include your address, if you want some. George Vrechek ================= To: Grant Rainsley Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 01:17:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Greg Boivin..... From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 22:05:41 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need some advice on 1968 Topps Milton Bradley.... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I find most of my 68 MB's sifting thru books and rows of 68 topps. If you have seen the cards, its pretty easy to tell them apart MOST of the time. I'd be interested. I have a short stack, still need a Frisella for my Mets set. Generally the 68s as Topps are going in that kind of shape from .25-2.00 depending on the card. There are a number of good names in there (Perry, Carew, Aaron, Checklist, etc). Price is always the issue. Depends on what he wants for them and your profit margin. This set is doable with patience. (See Taylor at the National last year). Most dealers don't know they are MBs for flat out just don't care. Are they just baseball or are the there football and Hot Rods too? The "set" is 132 cards deep. I'm attaching the checklist here for those interested. There was a guy on Net54 who really knows his MBs and was selling a while back. Might be able to dig up the thread if you want to see what he was selling them for for reference. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 1/31/2017 7:02:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Not an active collector or expert on them only pick them up when I run into them in other 68 commons. And yes most of mine would be in the vg range and the other issue is they are off center to see the white stripe so I have never paid more than .25-.50 for commons. If someone would list them at $2-3 each I would pass on them. My two cents and take it with a grain of salt. Sent from my iPad On Jan 31, 2017, at 12:44 PM, _mikesportsfan@aol.com_ (mailto:mikesportsfan@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: If you get the lot, what price range were you thinking for the near sets, including Aaron, etc., missing the Ryan? Amazingly, this is 1 issueI have not yet pursued and may be interested, if the price is right. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Jimi Thayer _jimivintage@yahoo.com_ (mailto:jimivintage@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > To: OBC-Ramblings <_OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2017 10:46 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I need some advice on 1968 Topps Milton Hey guys, I need some advice, and I really hope that it's ok to post this question here. I have an opportunity to buy a hoard....yes, a HOARD of 1968 Topps Milton Bradley cards (nearly 1,000 of them!). At least, I guess that wouldbe considered a hoard for a set that is only 77 cards deep. All cards from the set would be included in the deal, EXCEPT for the Ryan RC. I believe I'd be getting around 14 Hank Aarons, and similar numbers for most other cards. I'm pretty excited.....BUT...... I have only ever had a couple of these cards before, and I've never sold any, so I'm afraid of losing a ton of money on this deal. This lot will NOT come cheap, so I guess what I'm asking is if there is enough interest here at OBC for me to be grabbing them. If I don't have enough interest, I think it would be unwise for me to go on a shopping spree. I'd also be keeping a set for myself, of course....minus the Ryan. Another HUGE plus......is that most cards are VGEX to EXMT. My understanding is, since these were used as part of a game, they are often in VG or worse. I know the couple I had before were around G/VG. Thoughts there? It seems like commons on EBay are around $2-3 per. Is that what you guys are paying. I just don't want to make a dumb mistake here. LOL Had these been regular 1968 Topps cards, I wouldn't be saying anything, but I figured this would be something OBC would want to jump on and I'd be able to help a ton of you out. LMK your thoughts, guys. OBC forever, Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 03:57:01 +0000 Subject: FLEER FEBRUARY From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys, It's almost February, so why not? Here's the link for the FLEER FEBRUARY live https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qz3U8DV_VablgR5ZPjogqx_uvPu32ZlUpobef5pKkeQ/edit?uspsharing You can post your wantlists there or you can email them directly to me and I can place them in there for you. Please DO NOT just email me a link to your wantlist page. Here's the greatest benefit of this shared project: you can edit people's lists yourself if you're logged in to Google. That means you can delete the stuff you pull for someone, and it's updated immediately for everyone. Thenno one else is gonna send the same stuff you send. And I think that's pretty neat, don't you? There are four tabs at the bottom of the main page: VINTAGE BASEBALL, VINTAGE OTHER, UV BASEBALL, UV OTHER. I have put my lists in, partly as a means of showing the correct format - which makes it easiest to sort the lists for quickest checking. I still have a few lists to re-check, and I've noted that where necessary. Sorry about that. I've been working on this for weeks,and still haven't gotten done in time. Keep in mind, Fleer had several "branch brands" in the UV years. Try to keep those listed so they will sort into the same place with others who are working on the same set. I'm sure there's a LOT more to explain, but that's all I can think of at the moment. Any questions at all, just toss a quick email out. Are you ready? Happy Fleer February! ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 23:51:45 -0500 To: familytoad@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Type card lists From: mikesportsfan@aol.com This is a perfect example of what I am referring to. An example where guyscan help each other. Brian would get a needed hit and would then swap in the sender's favor. Win/win. I wish I could help him., but I only have a single type card from Type 1, and no Type 2. Mike Rich For anyone collecting a Type set , and you have a 1927 York Caramel Type -2, please let me know who you have. Even if I don't need that card ( I have dupes and only need 6 more ), I like knowing what is out there! If your type card matches my WL, I would trade ridiculous in your favor. Same goes for 1947 Tip Top to a lesser degree. I have no hope of ever completing the set, but I like acquiring them as they pop up. -----Original Message----- From: familytoad To: OBC-Ramblings ; mikesportsfan Sent: Mon, Jan 30, 2017 7:23 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Type card lists Great topic, Mike! For anyone collecting a Type set , and you have a 1927 York Caramel Type -2, please let me know who you have. Even if I don't need that card ( I have dupes and only need 6 more ), I like knowing what is out there! If your type card matches my WL, I would trade ridiculous in your favor. Same goes for 1947 Tip Top to a lesser degree. I have no hope of ever completing the set, but I like acquiring them as they pop up. OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: January 30, 2017 at 3:27 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Type card lists A number of guys have started doing type cards for every vintage BB card set issued, while a few of us are still hunting EVERY card from EVERY vintageBB (or in my case, every sport) set issued. Type set collectors could help us set builders by letting us swap for your type card if we have dupes from the same set. Some of us scan the OBC lists and if you list the #/card you have for your type card collection, we could make you an offer. If youhave a favorite team, and your type card is from that team, you may want to notate it or that is a HOFer, etc. This is especially true for prewar and oddball sets that guys may have trouble finding ones they need, but may also have a couple of dupes. For those that may make you offers, we can tryot even swap you guys from your favorite team for cards we need. A true win/win. Mike Rich ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 02:18:37 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cups From: ShoelessWes If i had space, i would collect the cups too. But i don't. Mike, have you drank a beer out of each cup you have. (Challenge) Wes Shepard > On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:41 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I am sure it comes as a surprise to no one in the group longer than a month, that I collect the various sports cups that have come out over the last45 years. Problem is, I do not have checklists for most of them. They are not in my big SCD. I do have a 2009 Beckett Almanac and it does list a few of the Seven Eleven sets. I already had checklists for 1972 & 1973, which I am down to 5 cups between them. It also lists a 1982 set. Although the write up and complete set price state set of 26, there are 47 cups in the checklist. I do not even have 26 yet, but do not know how many more I amlooking for. I know there were Seven Eleven issues in 1978 & 1979 as well. > There were also some cups issued in 1992, 1993 and 1994. I am not sure of the issuer. I am only 4 cups short of 3 complete sets. I only have a couple from 1992 & 1994 and could use checklists for those a s well. > If anyone has any info on these issues or has some to swap, please LMK. I have some to swap in most years. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:30:14 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Feb Waiver Wire From: Geno Wagner Found two more to throw on the stack: 1959 Topps:#367 Cal Neeman#377 Johnny Antonelli 1972 Topps:#618 Rich Robertson#639 JC Martin#643 Russ Gibson#644 Bernie Allen#656 Rudy May#662 Stan Bahnsen From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 5:25 PM Subject: Feb Waiver Wire Fellas -- Here's a few that are sitting around my closet: 1959 Topps:#377 Johnny Antonelli 1972 Topps:#639 JC Martin#643 Russ Gibson#644 Bernie Allen#656 Rudy May#662 Stan Bahnsen Let me know if you want any of them, and please include an address. Preference to guys I haven't hit, or at least not that much! Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 10:31:47 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: UPDATE on 1968 Milton Bradleys From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I received MANY e-mails regarding the 1968 Milton Bradleys, and I thought best to update everyone in one e-mail out to the group. Thank you so much for the advice! Turns out that there are several of you who are interested in near complete sets, which is great! I have decided to risk it, and willmake the purchase in the next couple days, which means I'll have them available to you next week. Some of you asked about prices. Although I was provided a few pictures anda spreadsheet listing all the cards and condition, I want to check them over first before deciding on prices. If enough interest, however, it looks like I'll be able to sell 10+ near complete sets ranging from Good to EXMT,and I will likely keep them consistent in grade when doing so. More on that later. Tough to decide right now since they are not in hand. Again, these are typically found in VG or lower, so these would already be nice upgrades. According to him, I would be one of the top 3 known people to have that many '68 MBs. Not sure I will take his word for it, but it wouldn't bethe first time I ran into having a top 3 known collection of something, sowho knows. VERY excited about this purchase!! GOOD NEWS.....I'm buying 84 of the Football MBs, too! So, I will have someof those to let go. No idea on profit margins and all that jazz, yet. NoNamath in the group. No Hot Wheels cards either. Several of you have either expressed interest in a near complete set, or having me hit your lists. PLEASE let me know if you want me to add your nameto the list. Again, I plan to make sets according to grade, so a near complete Good set would be cheaper than a near complete VG set, and cheaper than a near complete VGEX.....EX.....EXMT set. You get the idea. I saw a 1968 Topps Seaver sell for $120 recently. I will have 16 of them! Not thatI'm selling that card for $120, but I am also considering sending in a near set or two of the higher grade stuff to PSA and seeing what happens. Might not hurt. Sorry for the long ramble, and I appreciate you letting me ambush the Ramblings server regarding this. When it's time to sell, per rules, I will jumpover to the OBC-VCS server with details. If you've contacted me already, or plan to soon, I will contact you privately. Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:18:48 +0000 Subject: FLEER FEBRUARY - new link From: Aaron Shirley Yesterday, in my haste, I had the wrong permission setting when I shared the FLEER FEBRUARY spreadsheet. Here's the new link. You can edit it now. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qz3U8DV_VablgR5ZPjogqx_uvPu32ZlUpobef5pKkeQ/edit?uspsharing FLEER FEBRUARY VINTAGE BASEBALL Aaron Shirley, 1959 Fleer Ted Williams, 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1011 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 3637 39 42 44 45 46 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 61 62 63 64 65 66 6768 69 70 72 73 74 75 76 77 79 80. Missing 70 cards. Aaron Shirley, 1... Have a good time with it! ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:54:30 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, VCT , Subject: 1977 Topps Star Wars and 1980 Empire Strikes Back lots for trade From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I'm looking to trade these for non-sports set needs (or other starter sets from other sports). Open to other ideas, too. Condition would be low to midgrade as a whole, but some higher. Looking to unload them as a starter set rather than digging through to findnumbers for you (except for the last lot.....see below). 1977 Topps Star Wars! Starter Set #1 124 different cards Series 1 58 Series 2 46 Series 3 5 Series 4 4 Series 5 3 Stickers 8 Starter Set #2 79 different cards Series 1 48 Series 2 27 Series 3 0 Series 4 0 Series 5 1 Stickers 3 Duplicate Lot 116 dupes Series 1 99 Series 2 16 Stickers 1 (Feel free to let me know which numbers you need from these series, or if you want the whole batch.) 1980 Topps The Empire Strikes Back MANY MANY!!! - I would need to go through and create starter sets for these, and just haven't done it yet. My lists are tough right now, but I'm open to lots of things. Getting backinto things slowly, but surely. :) ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 20:30:39 +0000 Subject: Speaking of trading type cards and set kills...need one 1936 From: Mac Wubben ================= Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:18:53 -0500 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Price help. 55 topps aaron From: JDahms ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:43:08 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1972 Fleer Famous Feats and 1975 Fleer Pioneers of Basebll From: Kent I have the following in my dup box any takers welcome. 1972 Fleer Famous Feats #4 Dazzy Vance (x3) #5 Lou Gehrig #7 Johnny Evers #8 Walter Johnson #19 Oeslhger-Cadore #28 Napoleon Lajoie #29 Ed Reulbach #30 Pinky Higgins #32 Tris Speaker (x3) #33 Hank Gowdy (x2) #37 Deacon Phillippe #39 Jack Chesbro #40 Willie Keeler 1975 Fleer Pioneers of Basebll #2 Harry Wright #8 Mike Kelly ================= Date: 01 Feb 2017 21:55:26 +0000 To: Subject: Starting 55T and a few 55T waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:11:55 -0800 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speaking of trading type cards and set From: Andy Huntoon One to go? That's awesome. But what about all the variations with these matchbook sets. Similar to the * and ** on the 77 Cloth set, these matchbook sets come with each player having a complete full matchbook, then the 'one match missing', 'two matches missing', three matches missing', four matches missing', five matc.....well you get the idea. Andy Huntoon On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Down to one in the 1936 Diamond Matchbook set...team name on back: Carl > Hubbell Happy to trade in your favor if you have one. > Here is what it would look like (no I don't want to spend $100 on a full > book [image: =89]) > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-Diamond-Matchbook-RARE-Comp-w- > Matches-Carl-Hubbell-New-York-Giants-HOFer-bl-/142244357550 > Any help out there? Set Killer award ripe for the taking! > Mac ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 19:15:21 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: OBC SuperBowl Pool XVII From: Sean McGowan Please check this year's pool so far at http://sean-mcgowan.org/pool-17.htm to make sure that you are in. Let me know if you want in and you aren't on the list. I may have said Thursday, but I think I will wait until Friday afternoon to draw numbers if that is ok. I need the extra day to figure out how to fix it so I can win again ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 19:18:07 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Speaking of trading type cards and set kills...need one 1936 From: typecard@aol.com I've had several Grimm variations in the past. As I recall, you can find him with a plain or striped shirt. ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 19:25:13 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Speaking of trading type cards and set kills...need one 1936 From: typecard@aol.com I have the following type card type cards available to swap. I'm looking for hits to these sets: E90-3 American Caramel E97 Briggs E99 Bishop E100 Bishop E104 Nadja E105 Mello Mint E254 Colgan Chip "208 Series" back E270 Colgan Red Border T209 Contentnea Color T214 Victory T217 Mono D303 General Baking Availables (scans available): 1904 Fan Craze Fred Stone PSA-5 1904 Fan Craze Ossis Schreckengost SGC-84 E90-3 Johnny Evers SGC-10 (great image, some border and back damage) E92 Croft Candy Shean SGC-30 E92 Nadja Bergen E97 Kroh T212-3 Obak Ten Million (one of two keys to this set) D311 Pacific Coast Biscuit Hoffman D311 Pacific Coast Biscuit Byram National Game Rube Marquard PSA-8 Thank for looking, ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:38:05 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: 1972 Fleer Famous Feats and 1975 Fleer Pioneers of Basebll From: Kent One 1972 Fleer Famous Feats left: #32 Tris Speaker All the other cards have been claimed by Steve Sankner,Mike Glasser,Jimi Thayer, and Rick Lyons. See below what you have coming your way. -----Original Message----- From: Kent To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2017 3:43 pm Subject: 1972 Fleer Famous Feats and 1975 Fleer Pioneers of Basebll available I have the following in my dup box any takers welcome. 1972 Fleer Famous Feats #4 Dazzy Vance (x3) - Mike Glasser/Jimi Thayer/Rick Lyons #5 Lou Gehrig - Mike Glasser #7 Johnny Ever - Mike Glasser #8 Walter Johnson - Mike Glasser #19 Oeslhger-Cadore - Mike Glasser #28 Napoleon Lajoie - Mike Glasser #29 Ed Reulbach - Mike Glasser #30 Pinky Higgins - Mike Glasser #32 Tris Speaker (x3) - Mike Glasser/Steve Sankner #33 Hank Gowdy (x2) - Mike Glasser/Steve Sankner #37 Deacon Phillippe - Mike Glasser #39 Jack Chesbro - Mike Glasser #40 Willie Keeler - Mike Glasser 1975 Fleer Pioneers of Basebll #2 Harry Wright - Mike Glasser #8 Mike Kelly - Mike Glasser ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 01:08:45 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speaking of trading type cards and set kills...need one 1... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Just let me know how many Dodgers I need in all styles :-(... One guy has a group of 11 of them for $129... Not even close to what I want to spend on those... _http://www.ebay.com/itm/361875088091?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam (http://www.ebay.com/itm/361875088091?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK:MEBIDX:IT) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/1/2017 6:28:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: What Andy probably does not realize is that the matchbook covers each come in 3 colors (blue, green and red) and many guys DO try to do a master set of each color, especially since this is a small set. Others try to get a "match" set (pun not intended) of all 1 color. My bigger issue is trying to tell the Grimm variations apart (some say there are at least 3 different Grimm covers, with the 3 colors of each. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Mac Wubben Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2017 6:12 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speaking of trading type cards and set kills...need one 1936 Matchbook (team name on back) One to go? That's awesome. But what about all the variations with these matchbook sets. Similar to the * and ** on the 77 Cloth set, these matchbook sets come with each player having a complete full matchbook, then 'one match missing', 'two matches missing', three matches missing', four matches missing', five matc.....well you get the idea. Andy Huntoon On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Mac Wubben _obcmac@hotmail.com_ (mailto:obcmac@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Down to one in the 1936 Diamond Matchbook set...team name on back: Carl Hubbell Happy to trade in your favor if you have one. Here is what it would look like (no I don't want to spend $100 on a full book ) _http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-http://www.ebay.c om/itm/1937-http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-_ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-Diamond-Matchbook-RARE-Comp-w-Matches-Carl-Hubbell-New-York-Giant Any help out there? Set Killer award ripe for the taking! ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 01:12:04 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speaking of trading type cards and set kills...need one 1... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Andy, I just got sick to my stomach a little. That's a mean thing to say to a variation OBC-OCD collector... Kinda like handing a pair of greenies to Glenn and Nick, and saying "here, you are now collecting these" Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/1/2017 6:12:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: One to go? That's awesome. But what about all the variations with these matchbook sets. Similar to the * and ** on the 77 Cloth set, these matchbook sets come with each player having a complete full matchbook, then 'one match missing', 'two matches missing', three matches missing', four matches missing', five matc.....well you get the idea. Andy Huntoon On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Mac Wubben _obcmac@hotmail.com_ (mailto:obcmac@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Down to one in the 1936 Diamond Matchbook set...team name on back: Carl Hubbell Happy to trade in your favor if you have one. Here is what it would look like (no I don't want to spend $100 on a full book ) _http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-http://www.ebay.c om/itm/1937-http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-_ (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937-Diamond-Matchbook-RARE-Comp-w-Matches-Carl-Hubbell-New-York-Giants-HOFer-bl-/14 Any help out there? Set Killer award ripe for the taking! ================= Date: 02 Feb 2017 15:12:37 +0000 To: Subject: Favorite sets From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:13:53 -0500 To: JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Jake Brewer Nice topic! Here's mine: #1. '56T: My favorite set as a kid in the 90s that I thought I'd never own.My cousin who got me into collecting had one complete back in the day and I loved it. I now own it, completed in memory of my mam-maw. #2. '54T: Another set my cousin had that I just love- I also have completedthis #3. '53T: 50s topps sets are my favorites, and these are just works of art.Currently at 36% of this set. #4.'40 Play Ball: I love baseball nicknames, and this set has them right onthe card on a really cool vintage set?! LOVE! I only have 6 of these though.... #5. '38 Goudey: The cartoon-feel, the comic-strip art in the background on some of them- so cool. I currently have ZERO of them though, I've gotta change #6. '33 Goudey- another classic set, that I'll probably never complete. Each card to me is a work of art though. I'm proud to say I own 2 of these!! #7. '51 Bowman: These old Bowman sets are just really cool. The artwork, the inclusion of Teddy Ballgame & Musial on some early '50s cards- what's notto love?? I'm at 23% on this one. #8. '52 Bowman: See #5. I'm 32% done w/ these! #9. '52T: The only reason this isnt higher is because I'll never complete it. The cards are ICONIC though. I'm at a measly 7% on it ha. #10. '67T: I just love this design. It's hands down my favorite set of the '60s- it just speaks to me. I'm at 15% completion on this one. -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 2, 2017, at 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill inmy team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 10:14:24 -0600 To: JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: OBC Nick P Great topic..... Also in no particular order 1. 1952 topps baseball. love the design and everything else about the set, except needing the mantle. 2. 1953 topps baseball. Beautiful set. I've liked it since I got a pack oftopps archives back in the early 90's 3. 1965 topps baseball. Wow! Just wow! 4. 1955 topps AA football. Look at that selection of players 5. 1957 topps football. I've liked this set since I was a kid in a card shop and my dad talked about the YA Tittle card in the display case 6. 1954 topps hockey. One of the nicest hockey sets produced 7. 1968 opc hockey usually don't like the horizontal layout but it works inthis 8. 1971 opc hockey. Dryden and lafleur rookies plus a nice layout 9. 1933 goudey.....enough said 10. 1951 bowman. The best of the bowman sets, imo. Nick Pelletier > On Feb 2, 2017, at 9:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill inmy team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 10:20:48 -0600 To: nmack03@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waiver Wire: 1957 Topps Eddie Mathews From: Nate Mack Well thanks for all those who expressed interest. JD was the lucky name drawn from the hat! Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 29, 2017, at 2:30 PM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I picked this up yesterday at a local show. It's in OBC condition. I figure several will ask for it, so I will wait a day or 2 depending on demandand draw names from a hat! > Thanks, > Nate Mack ================= Date: 02 Feb 2017 18:58:57 +0000 To: Subject: Waivers for Fleer February From: mike.galbreath@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 14:14:12 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, VCT , Subject: Several 1956 Topps Team variations AND a Checklist for trade! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I have MOST of the '56T Team cards including variations available for trade, and most are in decent shape. I also have a Checklist (marked), available, too. Looking for '50s HOF cards I can use, or HOF RCs, or prewar. Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= To: JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 14:33:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: ED SCHOTT great question I can only think of 9 though 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps On 2/2/2017 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of > from my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to > the Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill > in my team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards > from this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 14:45:34 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Ed Hutchinson Favorite sets- tough one (and I hope I dont break any rules with my answers) 1- 1959 Topps baseball- first vintage set I ever made a try at. Never finished it, sold it all, and am working on it again (sold my Gibby RC for 75 bucks...ouch!) 2- 1972 Topps football- I love the design, and it was the first true vintage set I ever finished (not counting the insane high #s) 3- 1987 Topps baseball (please dont yell at me!) This is the set that started me collecting as a kid. My dad would bring me packs from Medic drug store on his way home from work and we would sort and go through them on the floor. I first learned what RBI meant, that Juan was pronounced waan, and that there were two leagues. Dad loves the Indians, and they were bad in the mid 80s, but we had fun with the cards! 4- 1970-71 Topps basketball- another completion thing- I finished this one with minimal help which is kind of fun sometimes! 5-1934-36 Batter Up. First pre-war set I ever put on my want lists. I love the color variations. Started these at the National back in 2014 when I joined OBC 6- Topps Wings. What a cool set and cool historical stuff! 7- Flags of All Nations- See #6 8- 1986 Topps Football- Jerry Rice was so big when I first started following football. I remember getting his rookie as a Christmas present from my uncle, which made me want to finish this set. Finished it when I joined another online group, VCT 9- 1978 Topps baseball- I dont love this set. I love that OBC decided I needed to have it, and in under a month, sent me the entire set (all of it!) That is why it makes the list- because I love the generosity of OBC and the members make collecting fun again! 10- All of my other vintage sets- I wouldnt be collecting them if I didnt like them at least a bit. I am eventually going to try a run of Topps from 51-80. Right now I am content working on the already ridiculous amount of sets on my want lists... On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from > my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the > Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill in > my team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from > this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= To: "biggies@aol.com" , OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 19:50:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Aaron Shirley I wish someone would issue a "corrected" version of the 57 Hank Aaron. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:42 PM To: easchott@comcast.net; JTysver1@msn.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets I only have 1, 1957 but here's 10 reasons My birth year First of the "modern card cut" Great and real player photos Hank Aaron Brooks Robinson Lucky penny card Bob Clemente Big Blony and Bazooka checklists Mickey/Yogi "Power hitters" card 407 cards! (big number for back then) -----Original Message----- From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: JTysver1 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 2:33 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets great question I can only think of 9 though 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps On 2/2/2017 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Time to drum up some conversation. What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? Mine, in no particular order... 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill in my team sets was fun 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 20:45:29 +0000 Subject: Re: Favorite sets From: Jo Meyer and John Gray Great question..... here are mine, from one to ten.. 1956 Topps 1950 Bowman 1960 Topps 1991 Topps 1968 Topps 1971 Topps 1953 Bowman 1953 Topps Red Mans Be happy, Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:53:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: "Matt Yudt" Fun topic Topps Baseball: 1952 =E2=93 the intrigue and novelty of the pioneering set has turned into a love of everything about them. Except the prices. 1960. Love the landscape layout and the colorfulness and it just seems to welcome the new decade well 1957. Screams VINTAGE! baseball cards 1965. I like this set look a lot. But one is enough, or two if it says =E2Phillies=E2=99. 1975. Great colors and mini versions! Honorable mentions: 1953, 1967, 1955, 1974 and 1976 LEAST favorites: 1966 =E2=93 first set from the 60=E2=99s I started working on. Grew to dislike them, even before I got to the high #=E2=99s 1970 =E2=93 ugly ugly ugly 1962 =E2=93 don=E2=99t like the woodies, although with the fun of thegreen tints, it has grown on me. Don=E2=99t like the 54 B=E2=99s either. 1968 =E2=93 birth year set, but see comment above for 1970 1973. Boring. Although I do like the landscaped action card photos Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 11:14 AM To: JTysver1@msn.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets Great topic..... Also in no particular order 1. 1952 topps baseball. love the design and everything else about the set, except needing the mantle. 2. 1953 topps baseball. Beautiful set. I've liked it since I got a pack oftopps archives back in the early 90's 3. 1965 topps baseball. Wow! Just wow! 4. 1955 topps AA football. Look at that selection of players 5. 1957 topps football. I've liked this set since I was a kid in a card shop and my dad talked about the YA Tittle card in the display case 6. 1954 topps hockey. One of the nicest hockey sets produced 7. 1968 opc hockey usually don't like the horizontal layout but it works inthis 8. 1971 opc hockey. Dryden and lafleur rookies plus a nice layout 9. 1933 goudey.....enough said 10. 1951 bowman. The best of the bowman sets, imo. Nick Pelletier Nachobcards@yahoo.com On Feb 2, 2017, at 9:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Time to drum up some conversation. What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? Mine, in no particular order... 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill in my team sets was fun 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 13:39:26 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: John Stamper Top Ten are easy...keeping it to ten was not. 1) 1952 Topps...My dad collected them. He had 1-132 that he passed down to me. 2) 1952 Look 'N See...A gorgeous set with Babe Ruth. And my set is complete. 3) 1970 Topps...First set I collected. It was summer and I bought a bunch of late series. I love the grey border and full pictures. Working on 2nd set. 4) 1974 Topps...First set I completed. Hank Aaron special cards, WashingtonNatl and ALL the Big Red Machine as Reds!! And 9 sets and counting. 5) 1975-1977 Topps...The other cards collected and completed when I was young. Can't get enough! 3rd sets. 6) 1966 Topps...The neighbor kid traded me a bunch, including Mantle and Mays for some new Dodgers cards 75-76 Complete!! 7) 1961 Topps...Same as above except still have high numbers to go. 8) 1943/1949 MP CO...Nice mix, small set, some star power with DiMaggio andWilliams. Completed both sets. 9) 1950 Bowman...Started set at 2008 National. Favorite Bowman set. 1/2 way. 10) All other Vintage sets!! John Stamper > On Feb 2, 2017, at 12:31 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > My favs are: > 1. 1953 Color Bowmans > 2. 1953 Topps > 3. 1957 Topps > 4. 1952 Topps > 5. 1951 Bowmans > Tom Billing > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > On Thursday, February 2, 2017, 2:42 PM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I only have 1, 1957 but here's 10 reasons > My birth year > First of the "modern card cut" > Great and real player photos > Hank Aaron > Brooks Robinson > Lucky penny card > Bob Clemente > Big Blony and Bazooka checklists > Mickey/Yogi "Power hitters" card > 407 cards! (big number for back then) > -----Original Message----- > From: ED SCHOTT easchott@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: JTysver1 ; OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 2:33 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets > great question > I can only think of 9 though > 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps 65topps > On 2/2/2017 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill inmy team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 16:44:33 -0500 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Anson Whaley Well, okay, if we're now doing favorite sets including non-Topps issues ... 1. T206 2. T205 3. 1951 Bowman 4. N28 Allen & Ginter 5. 1933 DeLong 6. N300 Mayo 7. N162 Goodwin Champions 8. T204 Ramly 9. N167 Old Judge 10.1934-36 Diamond Stars Ask me again tomorrow and this almost certainly changes. On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from > my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the > Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill in > my team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from > this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: 02 Feb 2017 23:08:05 +0000 To: Subject: A Jewel of a set From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 15:55:54 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re Favorite Sets From: Larry Tipton 1. 1962 Topps Civil War News. I loved these as a kid and still do. Stan Hack sent me an unopened cello pack back in the early days of OBC. I'm now working on set #3, and will soon transition to nine sets, with cards in a binder (page one holds nine #1s etc). Also currently hoarding all I can purchase under $2 a card:) 2. 1965 Topps baseball I remember back in 1992 I took a step of faith and took on my first vintage set:) Over the years I have constantly upgraded, and my '65 set is pretty nice! 3. 1959 Topps baseball love the black back high numbers, and real men like pink! 4. 1962 Topps Mars Attacks! A Classic, and I'm six cards from a full set! 5. 1954 Topps baseball best backs EVER! 6. 1965 Topps football "tall-boy" fever, catch it! 7. 1966 Topps baseball I collected these as a kid! 8. 1966 Topps Superman I'm trying for a set with the copyright only and a set with "Watch Superman on TV" add on the back. Spent many an afternoon watching this show on TV back in the day. 9. 1967 Topps baseball for the same reason I like the '66 set, these were the cards I collected as a kid. I have ONE Topps card from my original collection, 1967 #163 Vic Roznovsky! 10. 1971 Topps Brady Bunch I'm three cards from a complete set! Marsha Marsha Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 03 Feb 2017 01:46:59 +0000 To: Subject: Waivers for Fleer February, the 63s are spoken for From: mike.galbreath@gmail.com ================= To: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 20:03:52 -0800 Subject: Favorite sets From: "George Vrechek" I have noticed a high correlation (bias) between favorite sets and the years that the voters were 8 years old. In keeping with that spirit, my picks are 1. 1953 Topps 2. 1952 Topps 3. 1933 Goudeys 4. 1952 Bowmans 5. 1957 Topps 6. 1958 Topps 7. 1955 Topps 8. 1954 Bowman 9. 1934 Goudey 10. Marshall Merrell prints George Vrechek ================= Date: 03 Feb 2017 04:56:42 +0000 To: Subject: Favorite Sets From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 21:18:35 -0800 To: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite Sets From: John Stamper I loved going to Harlem Globetrotters games as a kid. I took my daughter and her friend one year and they had a blast. Saturday morning Globetrotter cartoons were the best!! John Stamper > On Feb 2, 2017, at 8:56 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I thought I replied to this, but maybe it just went to Jay. I apologize if this is a repeat. > 1. 1952 Topps - An iconic set to me. Every time I add one to the binder,it feels a little special. Growing up, I had one - Maurice McDermott. None of my buddies had a 52 Topps card. I never traded Maurice. I loved that card just because it was a 52 Topps. > 2, 1953 Topps - I think the artwork on the 53 set is beautiful. Love it!Start the set off with Jackie. Satch is in there. I like looking at the backgrounds in the cards. Seeing some advertisements on outfield walls. Sweet! > 3. 1978 Topps - I am probably the only one in the group that will have the 78 set in their top 10. 78 was the first year I collected. Those cards taught me so much about baseball. Reading stats, who were all-stars, league leaders, playing the game on the back of the cards. Great set > 4. 1957 Topps - great photography. Real photographs, which was a first. Sweet looking cards. > 5. 1953 Bowman - Just a beautiful set. Like the 57's, real pictures. beautiful > 6. 1933 Goudey. I love the card stock on these old cards. And although I will most likely never own a Ruth, I can't tell you how many daydreams and real dreams I would have of owning one of those 33 Goudey Ruth's. As, I've been collecting the set, there are a ton of HOFers in there, and I love reading the bios on the back. > 7. t206 So many of these sets on my lists that, like 33 Goudey, were justdreams for me as a kid. As an adult, it's a fun chase. Minus the crazy cards in the set, four I believe, there are still some HOFers that are very pricey. But those cards are cool. I can imagine being a kid and hanging out by the corner store and hoping someone would be throwing the cards away or giving them away after buying a pack of Piedmont's. > 8. 1965 Topps Football - The tallboys. So cool. Only AFC, but some legendary names in there, including a Namath rookie. I love those cartoons on the back. Thanks to the Guru, this set is complete for me. I love lookingthrough the entire set. It's beautiful. Classic. > 9. 1964/65 Topps Hockey - These are the hockey tallboys. Nobody had any hockey around me growing up. They were rarities. Love the backs. love the cartoons. English and French bios. I only collect Blackhawks, so gettingthe Bobby Hull will have to include winning the lotto, but they are so cool. > 10. 1972 Fleer Harlem Globetrotters. These guys were so awesome as I was growing up. I would catch them on ABC's Wide World of Sports. They had acartoon on Saturdays. Meadowlark. Curley Neal. Geese Ausbie. Love em. The set has some classic poses. It brings back so many good memories. ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 01:11:49 -0500 To: Anson Whaley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: ShoelessWes 1.) 1954 Topps baseball 2.) 1953 Topps baseball 3.) 1948-49 Leaf all 4.) 1964-65 Topps hockey 5.) 1965 Topps football 6.) 1933-34 anything 7.) 1951 Bowman baseball 8.) 1949 Bowman baseball 9.) 1969-70 Topps basketball 10.) 1971 Topps baseball I like 1952 topps, t206, t205s etc, but the impossibility for me to "finish" the sets can be a turn-off. Though i listed some toughies listed above, still, i say are more doable than the terrible three just mentioned. Wes Shepard > On Feb 2, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Well, okay, if we're now doing favorite sets including non-Topps issues ... > 1. T206 > 2. T205 > 3. 1951 Bowman > 4. N28 Allen & Ginter > 5. 1933 DeLong > 6. N300 Mayo > 7. N162 Goodwin Champions > 8. T204 Ramly > 9. N167 Old Judge > 10.1934-36 Diamond Stars > Ask me again tomorrow and this almost certainly changes. > Anson >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:12 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Time to drum up some conversation. >> What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? >> Mine, in no particular order... >> 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout >> 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) >> 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected >> 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of >> 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. >> 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill in my team sets was fun >> 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old >> 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile >> 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this year. >> 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 08:30:41 +0000 (UTC) To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speaking of trading type cards and set From: Glenn Codere Uh oh....the nervous twitch is back again!! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 at 6:12, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Andy,I just got sick tomy stomach a little. That's a mean thingto say to a variation OBC-OCD collector... Kinda like handing a pair of greenies to Glenn and Nick, and saying "here, you are now collecting these" Bwahahahahaa!Sal OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/1/2017 6:12:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: One to go? That's awesome. But what about all the variations with these matchbook sets. Similar to the * and ** on the 77 Cloth set, these matchbook sets come with each player having a complete full matchbook, then the 'one match missing', 'two matches missing', three matches missing', four matches missing', five matc.....well you get the idea. hahahahaahahahaahahahaahaahaah!!!!!! Andy Huntoon On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Down to one in the 1936 Diamond Matchbook set...team name on back: Carl Hubbell Happy to trade in your favor if you have one. Here is what it would look like (no I don't want to spend $100 on a full book http://www.ebay.com/itm/1937- Diamond-Matchbook-RARE-Comp-w- Matches-Carl-Hubbell-New-York- Any help out there? Set Killer award ripe for the taking! ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:39:01 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Fave Sets From: Glenn Codere Interesting reading! Here's mine...... 1. 1968 Topps - Love the burlap design, and they always invoke memories of the heroes of my childhood (th '68 Tigers). It also fits right in perfectly with George Vrechek's observation regarding 8 year olds!2. 1960 Topps - My birthyear set which I never even considered attempting to build until I joined OBC3. 1967 Topps - Bold and bright colors and a simple design makes this such an attractive set for me.4. 1969/70 Topps Hockey - The first hockey set that I ever worked on. Great memories of buying these when I was a kid and matching up the stickers with the cards.5. 1962 Ford Motor Co. Tigers Postcards - I only have 4 or 5 of these, and will NEVER complete it, but I simply love this set. 6. 1969 & 1970 Topps Man On The Moon - Until a couple years ago, I had no idea this set even existed. I've always been a big fan of the great "space race" age. These are wonderful and informative.7. 1969 Topps - Yep......I'll go there. This is here because it's really the first year that I pursued a full set from the day of release right through the season. I didn't complete it until the following spring when I spent a precious dollar on 10 packs from a box of 7th Series that appeared in our local Kresge's store.8. 1970 Kelloggs 3D - Who didn't love secretly throwing half a box of Corn Flakes into the trash just so you could empty it quicker and get your Mom to buy another box? 9. 1957 Topps - My favorite set from the 1950s. I've got 92 to go on it. Maybe.....just maybe.......10. 1941 Play Ball - I only have the Tigerst, but I absolutely fell in love with it when I first saw a complete set in the flesh (The Great Josh Levine Purchase in Las Vegas circa 2002 or 2003??) Honorable Mention:1962 Topps Green Tints - OK, it's a variation subset, but all kidding aside it's been fun pursuing it!! GlennGlasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 11:35:39 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Fleer Feb waivers + 1 Kellogg's From: Matthew Glidden 1970 Fleer/Laughlin World Series (blue/white ink) : 7 8 1971 Fleer/Laughlin World Series (black/white ink) : 10 1972 Kellogg's All Time Greats : 7 Grove ================= Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 13:31:53 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Claimed Re: Fleer Feb waivers + 1 Kellogg's From: Matthew Glidden Waivers claimed! On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 6:35 AM Matthew Glidden > FCFS! > 1970 Fleer/Laughlin World Series (blue/white ink) : 7 8 > 1971 Fleer/Laughlin World Series (black/white ink) : 10 > 1972 Kellogg's All Time Greats : 7 Grove > Spike ================= Date: 03 Feb 2017 15:17:39 +0000 To: Subject: Waiver Wire: 1977 Topps Burger King Yankees Checklist card From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: 03 Feb 2017 15:44:19 +0000 To: Subject: Favorite Topps sets From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:14:57 -0500 Subject: February OBC waiver #1 From: "Matt Yudt" I bought a binder of cards for $20 last weekend at Randy's card shop in Quakertown - maybe I overpaid, but I got a decent price on a 57 Mantle, so what the heck. He pulled it out just for me/us. It's a beauty! I pulled about a dozen or so I needed, and still have the old football to go through in there too. I would like to share these with the group. This will come in waves: (waves of waivers?) 1953 topps: #'s 4 and 13 - missing small pieces at top and bottom - like where I rubber band would wear it out over a half century. Also, #'s 111, 118 w/ paper loss, and 215. 1954 topps: 49, 76, 129, 140 (#140 has the same 'rubber band wear' as 1955 #23 - no writing, missing pieces or paper loss. But that is all the nice things you can say about this card. 1956 trimmed: 34, 217 1957: #127 and 395. Maybe among the nicest of this waiver - but that aint saying much. 1959 toops 'Casino collection'. I've named this because of the hole punches (and left the typo of tOOps to reflect this). All of them have 2 holes punched at the top left and right corners which annoyingly blocked out the # (some have a few extra punches elsewhere). I looked them up and added the #'s in light pencil on the back. Yes I did. 116, 121, 123, 124, 128, 130, 132, 135, 136, 137, 143, 144, 145, 146, 162, 165, 169, 174, 179, 182, 186, 190 1959 - OBC grade, but no holes: 85, 127, 143, 199, 278, 343 ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 14:34:44 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Recommendation for certified dealer From: rjsfgmv@aol.com I am not sure how this works, but I want to recommend...... John Morrison as a certified dealer. I understand that there needs to be 5 recommendations. I talked to John recently after he helped me complete my 1973 set. He used to be listed as a certified dealer. He is not sure why he is not anymore but I hear that a couple years back he did not receive enough recommendations to re-certify. Anyhow, I have discussed this with a few and I would like to get this done. His ebay name is oldbbcards. He offers a big discount to OBCers. He sometimes send an extra card for free after looking at wantlists. So, here is one recommendation. I hope we can get this done. John is a good guy and he can help us out and we can help him out. Randy Welk RW (I am shooting for a nickname hear that will catch on) ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 19:54:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer From: Taylor Schock I can't speak OBC-wise (re discounts, types of cards, etc) for John, but years ago (prior to OBC) I bought quite a few items through ebay from him (enough that I remembered where he located prior to double-checking). I am in a 'different place' with my collecting, but I would not hesitate to buy from them/him again. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 2:34 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer I am not sure how this works, but I want to recommend...... John Morrison as a certified dealer. I understand that there needs to be 5 recommendations. I talked to John recently after he helped me complete my 1973 set. He used to be listed as a certified dealer. He is not sure why he is not anymore but I hear that a couple years back he did not receive enough recommendations to re-certify. Anyhow, I have discussed this with a few and I would like to get this done. His ebay name is oldbbcards. He offers a big discount to OBCers. He sometimes send an extra card for free after looking at wantlists. So, here is one recommendation. I hope we can get this done. John is a good guy and he can help us out and we can help him out. Randy Welk RW (I am shooting for a nickname hear that will catch on) ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 11:54:33 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC VCS (Virtual Card Store) From: Larry Tipton So if I am reading Alan Miley's latest post on the OBC VCS correctly, if you opt for the $50 special (plus $4 to ship) you get 117 (type 1 type 2 and type 3) P6 Sweet Caporal National Flag Pins issued in 1896? That's .46 cents each delivered? Ummm you aren't subscribed to the OBC VCS server? Sent from my iPhone ================= To: , Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 14:57:52 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer From: "Bob Donaldson" I would recommend John. I've not bought from him in a while, but he was always great to deal with From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 2:35 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer I am not sure how this works, but I want to recommend...... John Morrison as a certified dealer. I understand that there needs to be 5 recommendations. I talked to John recently after he helped me complete my 1973 set. He used to be listed as a certified dealer. He is not sure why he is not anymore but I hear that a couple years back he did not receive enough recommendations to re-certify. Anyhow, I have discussed this with a few and I would like to get this done. His ebay name is oldbbcards. He offers a big discount to OBCers. He sometimes send an extra card for free after looking at wantlists. So, here is one recommendation. I hope we can get this done. John is a good guy and he can help us out and we can help him out. Randy Welk RW (I am shooting for a nickname hear that will catch on) ================= Date: 03 Feb 2017 20:01:28 +0000 To: Subject: Fav Sets From: 233_23555@msn.com ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:20:26 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Dealer Recommend From: Larry Tipton I'll cast a yes vote for John Morrison. I'm not sure he sets up at shows but I have made some good eBay buys from him as of late. Be sure to advise John of the OBC VCS he can post there if he is certified. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 12:28:19 -0800 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" I have had many positive dealings with John over the years. Erik Greenwood On Feb 3, 2017 11:34 AM, "rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hey > I am not sure how this works, but I want to recommend...... > John Morrison as a certified dealer. > I understand that there needs to be 5 recommendations. > I talked to John recently after he helped me complete my 1973 set. > He used to be listed as a certified dealer. He is not sure why he is not > anymore but I hear that a couple years back he did not receive enough > recommendations to re-certify. > Anyhow, I have discussed this with a few and I would like to get this done. > His ebay name is oldbbcards. > He offers a big discount to OBCers. He sometimes send an extra card for > free after looking at wantlists. > So, here is one recommendation. > I hope we can get this done. John is a good guy and he can help us out and > we can help him out. > Randy Welk > RW (I am shooting for a nickname hear that will catch on) ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:29:27 -0500 To: Erik & Leticia Greenwood Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer From: Jake Brewer OBC VCS? I didn't know that was a thing. How do I sign up to see that? Is it an email chain format like everything else? -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2017, at 3:28 PM, 'Erik & Leticia Greenwood' elhegreenwood@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have had many positive dealings with John over the years. > Erik Greenwood >> On Feb 3, 2017 11:34 AM, "rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Hey >> I am not sure how this works, but I want to recommend...... >> John Morrison as a certified dealer. >> I understand that there needs to be 5 recommendations. >> I talked to John recently after he helped me complete my 1973 set. >> He used to be listed as a certified dealer. He is not sure why he is notanymore but I hear that a couple years back he did not receive enough recommendations to re-certify. >> Anyhow, I have discussed this with a few and I would like to get this done. >> His ebay name is oldbbcards. >> He offers a big discount to OBCers. He sometimes send an extra card for free after looking at wantlists. >> So, here is one recommendation. >> I hope we can get this done. John is a good guy and he can help us out and we can help him out. >> Randy Welk >> RW (I am shooting for a nickname hear that will catch on) ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 20:38:40 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Favorite sets From: Jerry Coker Great thread! Although my choices change way too often :-) So right now: 1)1953 Bowman Color Set(most beautiful postwar) 2) 1957 Topps Set (2nd most beautiful postwar ... plus the Braves win it all!) 3) M101-2 Sporting News Supplements (most beautiful prewar) 4) T205 (the coolest prewar) 5) T206 (the 2nd coolest prewar) 6) 1954 Topps Set (love it ... but it will be the death of me since I stillneed the big 3 ... Aaron, Banks and Kaline ... but the Giants go all the way!) 7) 1962 Topps Set (this set has grown on me over the years ... it helps that Giants got to the WS!) 8) 1966 Topps Set (from my childhood collecting days in SF ... the first set I ever collected ... I was 8 years old ... but it will be the death of mebecause of the high numbers) 9) 1967 Topps Set (from my childhood collecting days in SF ... the 2nd set I ever collected ... I was 9 years old ... but it will be the death of me because of the high numbers ... though I'm close!) 10) 1971 Topps Set (from my late childhood collecting days in SF ... but mylast year in SF before moving East ... and the last set I collected till around 1986 when I re-discovered my cards ... thank you Mom! ... by 1972 girls and guitars became more important :-) ... COMPLETE! Jerry Coker ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:48:50 -0600 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer From: Mike Mackie I endorse John having purchased several times from him before. Easy to workwith, reasonable prices. Mike Mackie Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2017, at 1:38 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Agreed and recommended! > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: February 3, 2017 at 11:36 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer > Hey > I am not sure how this works, but I want to recommend...... > John Morrison as a certified dealer. > I understand that there needs to be 5 recommendations. > I talked to John recently after he helped me complete my 1973 set. > He used to be listed as a certified dealer. He is not sure why he is not anymore but I hear that a couple years back he did not receive enough recommendations to re-certify. > Anyhow, I have discussed this with a few and I would like to get this done. > His ebay name is oldbbcards. > He offers a big discount to OBCers. He sometimes send an extra card for free after looking at wantlists. > So, here is one recommendation. > I hope we can get this done. John is a good guy and he can help us out and we can help him out. > Randy Welk > RW (I am shooting for a nickname hear that will catch on) ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 16:52:51 -0500 To: Jerry Coker Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: ShoelessWes I wonder if we tally up the answers and compare? Sort of like when George surveyed best baseball movies? Wes Shepard > On Feb 3, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Jerry Coker obcbeatle@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Great thread! Although my choices change way too often :-) So right now: > 1) 1953 Bowman Color Set (most beautiful postwar) > 2) 1957 Topps Set (2nd most beautiful postwar ... plus the Braves win it all!) > 3) M101-2 Sporting News Supplements (most beautiful prewar) > 4) T205 (the coolest prewar) > 5) T206 (the 2nd coolest prewar) > 6) 1954 Topps Set (love it ... but it will be the death of me since I still need the big 3 ... Aaron, Banks and Kaline ... but the Giants go all theway!) > 7) 1962 Topps Set (this set has grown on me over the years ... it helps that Giants got to the WS!) > 8) 1966 Topps Set (from my childhood collecting days in SF ... the first set I ever collected ... I was 8 years old ... but it will be the death of me because of the high numbers) > 9) 1967 Topps Set (from my childhood collecting days in SF ... the 2nd set I ever collected ... I was 9 years old ... but it will be the death of mebecause of the high numbers ... though I'm close!) > 10) 1971 Topps Set (from my late childhood collecting days in SF ... but my last year in SF before moving East ... and the last set I collected tillaround 1986 when I re-discovered my cards ... thank you Mom! ... by 1972 girls and guitars became more important :-) ... COMPLETE! > Jerry Coker ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 16:56:01 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: Recommendation for certified dealer From: Tom Housley Thanks to Randy & Brian - and others who have chimed in - the AC is currently in the voting process for both John Morrison & Ted Holden. Randy - since you are signing as RW, I hereby bestow upon you the nickname of "Flounder" (no, wait, that's Animal House). I mean, "R-Dub"! Tom H ================= Date: 03 Feb 2017 22:02:39 +0000 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Recommendation for certified dealer From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 16:00:51 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Favorite Sets From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" This is an enjoyable thread. Here goes my ten, in no specific order: 1. 1978 Topps - the set that started me on this journey. Reggie #200 is still one of my favorite cards. 2. 1953 Color Bowman - beautiful set. Iconic Reese card. 3. 1933 George Miller - I love the colors on this set. 4. Allen & Ginter N# - pick a set, any set. Gotta love the lithography. I am partial to N3 and N31 5. T206 - the colors, the variety, the players, the backs. So many ways to collect this set. 6. 1956 Topps - yes it's busy compared to the 55 set, but it has almost all the stars of the day. I like this one as it was the first 50's set I 7. 1953 Topps - their best effort. Simply a beautiful set. 8. T227 - good looking and bios too! 9. 1921 Exhibits 10. T200 - get all the players in only 16 cards. Erik Greenwood ================= To: Erik & Leticia Greenwood , Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 20:06:54 -0600 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite Sets From: Yaz This thread lasted a long time so I can still contribute and not be late to the party, I guess. My favorite sets are: 1953 Topps - I traded a bunch of 1975-1980 cards for my first ever '53 Topps cards. The feel of the heavy cards was spellbinding. There were a couple of familiar names in the bunch of cards I got in the trade but mostly they were guys I'd never heard of. Now about 36 years after the trade, I am down to six cards needed. (yeah, Sal, I know about the back variations. I've got a few but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. 1965 Topps - In 1966, in Garden Grove, California, I started collecting the 1966 set in earnest and in competition with my new buddies. (I'd just moved there from Massachusetts in the fall of '65). One of these guys had the gall to possess about 2/3 of the '65 Topps set. I thought they were the best looking set I'd ever seen and he wouldn't trade me even one of them. Creep. Now I have them all. Take that Burrows! 1966 Topps - Completed it in about 8 months in 1966. Saw it disappear in 1972 and have been compiling it again since 1975. 22 left. 1911 T205 Gold Border - In 1997 or so, our own Peter Iverson wrote a story that he shared with us on the Ramblings server. That story and a gift of one card from Josh Levine convinced me to add a list to my page. I still don't pursue these cards like I do other sets I am collecting but I love them and someday they will be front and center focus for me. 1961 Topps - Simple looking. Really just beautiful. Probably the first card I owned was a '61 I picked up off the schoolyard in first grade. The bigger kids flipped them against the schoolhouse. Someone must have dropped one. 1959 Topps - Colorful but not gaudy. Nice backs too. 1954 Topps - Big, colorful, nice backs, birth year. 1962 Topps - Unique looking set at the time and my first major coup. Mom bought me a rack pack, probably at the 5 & dime in 1963. 1970 Topps - The gray fronts look great! 1953 Bowman Color - I bought the 1975 SSPC set as a complete set. I thought that this was a beautiful set with nothing on the front but a great picture. Miles down the road I beheld the '53 Bowman. Wonderful! Greg (yaz) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > • Reply to sender > • > Reply to group > > • Start a New Topic > > • Messages in this topic > > (3) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated > email app on the market. What are you waiting for? 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Groups > > • Privacy > • > Unsubscribe > > • Terms of Use > . ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 21:18:38 -0500 To: JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Joshua Levine My top ten sets (all sets, not just Topps) are sort of esoteric and even includes one set I do not actively collect (except for the Phillies)... 1. 1911 T-205...first set with stats, first set with write-ups, beautiful colors, gold borders, HOFers, variations, rarities, and more! 2. 1971 Topps...birth year set 3. 1971 OPC...see above and the backs are cooler! 4. 1953 Topps...gorgeous large format, painting set. 5. 1955 Bowman...color T.V.s 6. 1941 Playball...first pre-war set I completed (took me less than 2 hoursto 7. 1911 T-3 Turkey Red Cabinet set...beautiful set, beautiful size, great player 8. 1887-90 Old Judge Set...great old photos of great old players in great old uniforms holding great old equipment on great old cardboard. 9. 1977 Topps Cloth stickers...not even sure why I love them so much, probably a tactile memory. 10. 1971 Topps Greatest Moments...more black border beauties with great action shots and portraits and nice backs. There you go...this was hard to do...sheesh -----Original Message----- From: JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 7:12 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets Time to drum up some conversation. What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? Mine, in no particular order... 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill in my team sets was fun 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: 04 Feb 2017 02:33:29 +0000 To: Subject: Anyone remember Mike Mackie's Tournament of Favorite Sets? From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: 04 Feb 2017 02:40:45 +0000 To: Subject: EEK makes me go Dutch while TJ is all ears!!! From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 20:38:56 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: OBC Superbowl pool XVII From: Sean McGowan The pool is all set! I did some video of me selecting who gets the extra squres, and what numbers go where. To cover my butt in case I win a 4th year in a row! The pool is at: http://sean-mcgowan.org/pool-17.htm and I'll post the videos on youtube, and let you know when they are there... I used cards from the '76,'52, and '59 sets to get the job done.... it was fun :) ================= Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 20:59:29 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Super bowl pool selection video :) From: Sean McGowan If these links don't work, you can just search on youtube for "2017 OBC pool part 1" Go OBC Good luck everyone! part 1 - pick the extra squares... '76 topps #'s 1-40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCnmyO6UzLk part 2 - pick the AFC numbers ... '52 topps #'s 1-10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aluTje58WtQ&t=8s part 3 - pick the NFC numbers... '59 topps #'s 1-10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2bzLD9qei8 ================= Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 14:24:01 +0000 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Fleet February - Koufax From: Joel Freedman Up for trade ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 11:15:22 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Recommendation for certified dealer From: Wayne Delia I may have jumped the gun on this one, but it's easily corrected. I heard from Randy Welk a few days ago about John Morrison who was not included on the OBC Certified Dealer's page. This was kind of embarrassing, because to the best of my recollection (which, lately, isn't as good as it used to be) John was one of the original OBC certified dealers. He used to sit at the White Plains (NY) card shows back in the day. It's not just that he's 102% pro-OBC, or that he offers really huge discounts for, in his words, "very good / vg-ex cards, not destroyed" and charges us 10% of Beckett mint for nice shape stars & superstars - he knows a bunch of the guys and remembers details that are amazing. I was in contact recently with him after winning a card (ebay ID "oldbbcards") and he recognized my name, asked about my 1940 Play Ball set progress (still 9 cards to go after he sold me a lot of 'em at really discount prices), remembered that I had laser eye surgery in 2001, asked about my two kids, and told me to convey his sympathy for Steve Rittenberg's loss. So, anyway, I took a look at the page and the HTML code for it was terrible. It was like seven thousand lines of HTML code to display a sequence of about two dozen simple info tables with dealer photos if available. I cleaned it all up, and put John's name back in there. We can take it out of the list if the OBC/AC votes him down, but then we'd have to pay for the psychiatric tests for the OBC/AC for making such a poor decision. He's a genuine great guy, very supportive of our group, offers serious discounts, and he's a proud veteran. So let's not take too long to re-certify him. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Joshua Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 17:17:10 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Mac Wubben ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 12:21:29 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Favorite sets From: Wayne Delia Wayne's favorite sets, which can be considered the teacher's guide to the correct answers ;) 1) 1968 Topps. (First set I ever collected. A Willie Mays in fair condition is my favorite card ever.) 2) 1950-56 Callahan. (Combination of ultra-common HOF'ers, and some of the genuinely rarest cards of the 1950's.) 3) 1940 Play Ball. (Beautiful sepia photos, classic borders, vintage stars, 4) 1956 Topps. (Terrific background scenes, vivid colors, classic cards.) 5) 1953 Topps. (Beautiful painted photos, true vintage design, Mickey, Willie, & Satch.) 6) 1952-55 Red Man Tobacco. (Oversized, colorful, chock full of stars, despite being unhealthy, addictive, racist, and sexist. "Start a collection for your boys.") 7) 1933 Goudey. (Comprehensive, simple, colorful, pure vintage, gorgeous.) 8) 1952 Bowman. (Just look at the Stan Musial card and try to tell me there's any more beautiful card ever made. The rest of the set is beautiful, too.) 9) 1964 Topps Giants. (Large, bright, crisp, challenging short-prints, gorgeous photos.) 10) 1889 Allen & Ginter N43. (Looks like a postage stamp souvenir sheet, a card-on-a-card, simply beautiful design.) ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 12:59:03 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fav Sets From: rjsfgmv@aol.com My top 10 1. T205 Something on the back and that makes T206 seem lazy. 2. T201 I might be wrong but seems like the first to do something kind of 3. 1957 First Topps set to include all the stats and something else. 4. 1969 First Topps set that I need to get finally completed. Has 5. 1961 A lot of effort put into this set. 6. 1968 A big story, all the stats, dopey cartoons 7. 1965 Stats Big Flags and a little cartoon for no real reason 8. 1952 Berk Ross Sloppy, not very good looking, but they gave it a try. And they need a vote 9. Conlon cards. They included all these people including people we never heard of. Good for them. 10. 1974 Topps Because we can all complete it. And, well, it is a great Randy Welk ================= Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 13:05:39 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: finished a set today From: Robert Fitts Just broke open a SGC holder and slipped a SGC1 Red Kleinow into my binder to finish off my T-205 set. I still need to upgrade a few cards from =93really ugly=94 to =93presentable poor/good" condition but feels great to finally finish this one after Mac sold me a starter set, many years ago ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 10:11:31 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Rick Since I've seen the 71 OPC now twice and Mac added the 75 minis it inspiredme to make a list. Rick (1) 75 minis not my first cards I bought but they were the ones that got mehooked. (2) 71 OPC toughest post war set to put together and love the set too. (3) 61 topps first "old" cards I received (4) 67 topps cards I got from my brother and thought they were the coolest.Then trying to complete the set proved to me it's one of the greatest. (5) 68 topps similar to the 67's but not one of the greatest. (6) 61&62 topps stamps I'm sure I will be the only one to list these. Love the topps inserts. Completed two sets of these and working on five more. (7) 62 topps baseball bucks same as above but only did one set. (8) 62 regular set mainly because it's my birth year set. But I do like thewood (9) 69 OPC love the backs on these for some reason. (10) 60 fleer football cards I got from an older cousin. Some of the first cards I ever had. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 4, 2017, at 9:17 AM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Nice to see the best looking set of all time make an appearance in the lists finally...T3 Turkey Red (in case you were uninformed ). > My own list: > 1. T3's--Best looking set ever > 2.1938 Goudey--who doesn't love the cartoon figures? > 3. T216 Kottons---the coolest of the standard caramel designs > 4. T207's--love the color palette and the tough backs > 5. 1956 Topps. The color background scenes are what pulled me back into collecting > 6. Diamond Stars--interesting "action" lines really set it over the top...love Lopez's mask flying through the air > 7. T202's The triple folder. Great action shots with portraits on the side > 8. T210's The bright red borders contrasted with the black and white shots...love the Texas leaguers the best. Imagine playing in those uniforms in the Texas heat. > 9. 1975 Topps mini. One of the sets that started it all for me. > 10. 1971 OPC...a love/hate relationship really...like the way they look,hate having to look for them > Mac > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 9:18 PM > To: JTysver1@msn.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets > Hmm... > My top ten sets (all sets, not just Topps) are sort of esoteric and even includes one set I do not actively collect (except for the Phillies)... > 1. 1911 T-205...first set with stats, first set with write-ups, beautifulcolors, gold borders, HOFers, variations, rarities, and more! > 2. 1971 Topps...birth year set > 3. 1971 OPC...see above and the backs are cooler! > 4. 1953 Topps...gorgeous large format, painting set. > 5. 1955 Bowman...color T.V.s > 6. 1941 Playball...first pre-war set I completed (took me less than 2 hours to complete!) > 7. 1911 T-3 Turkey Red Cabinet set...beautiful set, beautiful size, greatplayer > 8. 1887-90 Old Judge Set...great old photos of great old players in greatold uniforms holding great old equipment on great old cardboard. > 9. 1977 Topps Cloth stickers...not even sure why I love them so much, probably a tactile memory. > 10. 1971 Topps Greatest Moments...more black border beauties with great action shots and portraits and nice backs. > There you go...this was hard to do...sheesh > Joshua > -----Original Message----- > From: JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 7:12 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets > Time to drum up some conversation. > What are your ten favorite Topps sets and why? > Mine, in no particular order... > 1960 Topps BB- Like the layout > 1973/74 Topps Bkb- First Basketball set I remember getting a bunch of from my fried Duane (see below) > 1973 Topps BB- First set I collected > 1975 Topps BB- Set I bought the most of > 1975/76 Topps Basketball- fond memories of walking a mile or two to the Seven Eleven to buy these. > 1975 Hostess BB- Great memories of this. Getting Hostess cards to fill inmy team sets was fun > 1954 Topps BB- A friend gave me a handful when I was 10 years old > 1972 Topps BB- First cards I ever remember seeing in a trading pile > 1971 Topps BB- Had another friend (Duane) who had his brother's cards from this year. > 1956 Topps- Had a few when I was a kid and love the layout. ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 13:40:08 -0500 To: Robert Fitts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today From: Jimi Thayer Incredibly awesome, Rob! I wish I would have stuck with my t205 set years ago. One of my favorite prewar sets by far! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Just broke open a SGC holder and slipped a SGC1 Red Kleinow into my binder to finish off my T-205 set. I still need to upgrade a few cards from =E2=9Creally ugly=E2=9D to =E2=9Cpresentable poor/good" condition butfeels great to finally finish this one after Mac sold me a starter set, many years ago > rob > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: Robert Fitts , Jimi Thayer Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 18:46:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today From: Mac Wubben I can't be sure as I had a number of t205 starters...but I think that I gotthe t205's from Jimi and sold them to Rob. Congrats Rob! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 1:40 PM To: Robert Fitts Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today Incredibly awesome, Rob! I wish I would have stuck with my t205 set years ago. One of my favorite prewar sets by far! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Just broke open a SGC holder and slipped a SGC1 Red Kleinow into my binder to finish off my T-205 set. I still need to upgrade a few cards from "really ugly" to "presentable poor/good" condition but feels great to finally finish this one after Mac sold me a starter set, many years ago > rob > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 13:53:00 -0500 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today From: Jimi Thayer That's funny...I think you are right! That would have been many years ago!I think I got my start from Marc Del Percio. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Mac Wubben wrote: > I can't be sure as I had a number of t205 starters...but I think that I got the t205's from Jimi and sold them to Rob. Congrats Rob! > Mac > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 1:40 PM > To: Robert Fitts > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today > Incredibly awesome, Rob! I wish I would have stuck with my t205 set yearsago. One of my favorite prewar sets by far! > Jimi > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > Just broke open a SGC holder and slipped a SGC1 Red Kleinow into my binder to finish off my T-205 set. I still need to upgrade a few cards from =E2=9Creally ugly=E2=9D to =E2=9Cpresentable poor/good" condition but feels great to finally finish this one after Mac sold me a starter set,many years ago > > > > rob > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. > > > > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > > > > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > > > ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 18:59:24 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today From: tvalacak@comcast.net Wow! That is awesome. Congrats! Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-02-04 12:07:45 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today Just broke open a SGC holder and slipped a SGC1 Red Kleinow into my binder to finish off my T-205 set. I still need to upgrade a few cards from =E2=9Creally ugly=E2=9D to =E2=9Cpresentable poor/good" condition butfeels great to finally finish this one after Mac sold me a starter set, many years ago The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouragedon Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGSserver, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:04:03 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Geno's Top Ten From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- OK, I guess I should make a list as well... 1) T205 - easy choice! Not hard to complete, great backs, cool minor leaguers. Just stay away from silly variations! 2) T206 - I love how many different backs you can find for each guy, plus some great poses...also some goofy ones! 3) T202 - Basically T205 with a kicker. And a couple extra players, as well...where's my T205 Smokey Joe Wood? 4) 1974 Topps - My first set I bought as a kid. Clean, simple, great action shots, and the A's became a team I started to like with my Cubs. 5) 1953 Topps - I love reading the fence ads behind some guys, and the Paige may be my favorite card ever. 6) T3 - You have to love those blue uniforms of the Reds players. 7) T207 - Somewhere along the way, these went from a set I wanted nothing to do with, to one I really appreciate. 8) 1933 Goudey - I stopped trying to complete this set, mostly because of Ruth. Maybe it will reappear on my list... 9) E121 - Great poses in this set, and lots to chase 10) 1914/15 Cracker Jack - Beautiful, fragile, and you just want to touch ================= Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2017 14:06:30 -0500 To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today From: Robert Fitts great that the set is an OBC effort and special story On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:53 PM, Jimi Thayer wrote: > That's funny...I think you are right! That would have been many years ago! I think I got my start from Marc Del Percio. > Jimi > Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Mac Wubben wrote: >> I can't be sure as I had a number of t205 starters...but I think that I got the t205's from Jimi and sold them to Rob. Congrats Rob! >> Mac >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 1:40 PM >> To: Robert Fitts >> Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] finished a set today >> Incredibly awesome, Rob! I wish I would have stuck with my t205 set years ago. One of my favorite prewar sets by far! >> Jimi >> Sent from my iPhone >> > On Feb 4, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> > >> > Just broke open a SGC holder and slipped a SGC1 Red Kleinow into my binder to finish off my T-205 set. I still need to upgrade a few cards from =93really ugly=94 to =93presentable poor/good" condition but feels great tofinally finish this one after Mac sold me a starter set, many years ago >> > >> > rob >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the endof each posted message. >> > >> > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. >> > >> > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html >> > ------------------------------------ >> > >> > Yahoo Groups Links >> > >> > >> > ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 14:14:59 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Favorite sets From: Geordie Calvert Great topic! Glad it morphed away from favorite Topps sets - I'm not sure Icould identify 10 Topps sets that I love. In no particular order: * 1978 Topps baseball: the first baseball set I collected as a kid. I love the All-Star shields, the game on the back, cursive font on the front. * 1957 Topps baseball: this is the oldest set I have completed. Great photography, last year of the Brooklyn Dodgers, a fantastic assortment of classic HOFers and future stars. * T206: the definitive pre-war set, in my opinion. I think I love this set above all others. So many ways to collect it: teams, Southern Leaguers, theMonster minus 4, back variations by set, back variations by player. Plus the fact that people are still discovering new variations after all these years. * T205: another classic and beautiful pre-war set. Not as many ways to collect as the 206, but still enough ways to keep anyone interested. * T3: this is another set I have fallen in love with. I landed my first twoexamples in Chicago in 2015 and was immediately obsessed with them. * 1953 Bowman Color: in my opinion this is the most beautiful post-war set ever made. Better photography than the '57 and again loaded with iconic HOFers. * 1966 Topps baseball: my birth year set. When I was a junior in high school I traded pretty much my entire collection of baseball/football/basketballto a local deal for a near set of '66 Dodgers, including the Koufax. They are the only cards I have left from junior high/high school. * 1976 Topps football: the very first cards I ever opened from packs. I'd walk or bike over to my Uncle Bill's house sometimes, and he'd take me with him to Bernie's Liquors. Looking back, I realize he was a hardcore drunk - he'd stock up on booze, and he'd buy me something from the deli and a few packs of '76 football. It's a pretty cool design, imo. * 1972 Topps baseball: I've always loved the psycho '72s. I think the design of this set is perfect for the time period it was released in. 1952 Bowman baseball: another really beautiful set. I love the oddball size, the vibrant colors, and the great artistry. ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:34:52 -0500 To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's Top Ten From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Now I know a handful of OBCers have completed the T-205 set, but to say this is not hard to complete I think is an extremely relative term. I have been nibbling away for years and still need 8 commons among the 46 I need fora base set. Only 2 hits in the last 2 years. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sat, Feb 4, 2017 2:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's Top Ten Fellas -- OK, I guess I should make a list as well... 1) T205 - easy choice! Not hard to complete, great backs, cool minor leaguers. Just stay away from silly variations! 2) T206 - I love how many different backs you can find for each guy, plus some great poses...also some goofy ones! 3) T202 - Basically T205 with a kicker. And a couple extra players, as well...where's my T205 Smokey Joe Wood? 4) 1974 Topps - My first set I bought as a kid. Clean, simple, great action shots, and the A's became a team I started to like with my Cubs. 5) 1953 Topps - I love reading the fence ads behind some guys, and the Paige may be my favorite card ever. 6) T3 - You have to love those blue uniforms of the Reds players. 7) T207 - Somewhere along the way, t hese went from a set I wanted nothingto do with, to one I really appreciate. 8) 1933 Goudey - I stopped trying to complete this set, mostly because of Ruth. Maybe it will reappear on my list... 9) E121 - Great poses in this set, and lots to chase 10) 1914/15 Cracker Jack - Beautiful, fragile, and you just want to touch them... ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 00:40:50 +0000 (UTC) To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's Top Ten From: Geno Wagner I suppose it depends on your perspective! A guy like me with a narrowfocus can get it done pretty quick. A guy like you, with a bazillionsets going at once, probably has a lot of distractions! There are a few toughies, even in the basic set. And try to find Speaker at a reasonable price...he's Cobb-like! Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 19:34, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Now I know a handful of OBCers have completed the T-205 set, but to say this is not hard to complete I think is an extremely relative term. I have been nibbling away for years and still need 8 commons among the 46 I need for a base set. Only 2 hits in the last 2 years.Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sat, Feb 4, 2017 2:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's Top Ten Fellas -- OK, I guess I should make a list as well... 1) T205 - easy choice! Not hard to complete, great backs, cool minor leaguers. Just stay away from silly variations! 2) T206 - I love how many different backs you can find for each guy, plus some great poses...also some goofy ones! 3) T202 - Basically T205 with a kicker. And a couple extra players, as well...where's my T205 Smokey Joe Wood? 4) 1974 Topps - My first set I bought as a kid. Clean, simple, great action shots, and the A's became a team I started to like with my Cubs. 5) 1953 Topps - I love reading the fence ads behind some guys, and the Paige may be my favorite card ever. 6) T3 - You have to love those blue uniforms of the Reds players. 7) T207 - Somewhere along the way, t hese went from a set I wanted nothing to do with, to one I really appreciate. 8) 1933 Goudey - I stopped trying to complete this set, mostly because of Ruth. Maybe it will reappear on my list... 9) E121 - Great poses in this set, and lots to chase 10) 1914/15 Cracker Jack - Beautiful, fragile, and you just want to touch ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:48:24 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Honest people still exist From: Yahoo Went to a local flea/ antique show in my area today just to look around. Idid not plan to find or spend much money so I took $200 with me. I had a $100 bill and 4-$20 bills in my wallet, and it cost $2 to get into the show. That left me with $196.00. I found some 1964 and 1966 topps checklists that were unmarked and in EX condition. Made a deal with the seller for $18. That left me with $160.00. I walked around for awhile and found a guy that had some T87 wings that I was interested in. I made a deal with the guyfor $30.00 when I went to pull the money out of my wallet I realized I only had the $100 bill. As you can imagine panic began to set in, somewhere along the way I lost $80 in cash, the chances of finding lost cash is aboutzero. I paid the gentleman and decided it was time to go home. When I got in the car to leave I though maybe I gave the first guy $96 instead of the $18 I meant to. I got back out of the car and went back into his booth, feeling like a fool I asked him if he remember our transaction. Luckily for me he had not made any other deals and said I had indeed paid him $96.00.Thankfully he was honest and did not try to keep my money. After speaking to him I found out he is a auctioneer and runs his own auction business. His name is Ken ludington and he runs a local auction house KL auctions. Just wanted to share my near disaster with everyone Ken Morganti style =A4=A3. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Yahoo Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 01:01:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Honest people still exist From: richard dingman ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 21:28:44 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Greenville Show Report From: Jake Brewer I headed down to the motel show in Greenville, SC today with one of my friends. I happened to run into fellow OBC'er Doug Dejong while I was there! Doug was flipping through a binder at a dealer's table who had all new stuff and one binder of off-grade vintage. I was just observing, as I didn't want to jump in where Doug was already looking. That didn't last long, as he invited me to find something so we could bundle- and bundle we did! These cards were VG condition I'd say- the ones I got barely had rounded corners (a few cards were probably more like EX, they were sharp!) I know Doug snagged a Bench rookie in G-ish shape, and a few other stars from the 60s I believe (Doug probably knows his end better). Anyways, here's what I got: '54 Bowman: 30 commons in EX condition '58 Topps: Kaline, F. Robinson, Mathews '59 Topps: Mathews (an upgrade to VG for me) '60 Topps: Banks, Killebrew, Maris '61 Topps: Banks, Roberts '62 Topps: B. Robinson '63 Topps: Yastrzemski, Pride of NL (Musial/Mays) '64 Topps: Roberts '67 Topps: Ford, The Champs (B. Robinson/F. Robinson/Bauer) '68T: Banks, NL HR leaders (Aaron/McCovey/Wynn/Santo), WS GM 2(Yaz), Clemente, '69T: Wills, Tiant, Morgan, Killebrew With what Doug got and the above, we bundled it together for a grand total of....$110. I feel like that was a steal right?! I also snagged this at another dealer's table too: '56 Topps: Snider (an upgrade for me, probably EX) for $15!! We also had some good friendly banter and card talk (mostly of Doug making fun of me giving myself a nickname, being a punk of a kid, that I was a terrible nephew, etc.) haha. Good to see you at the show Doug! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 05 Feb 2017 03:10:28 +0000 To: Subject: Need a bit of help- 1962 Post SPs From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 05 Feb 2017 03:36:51 +0000 To: Subject: OBC Slang From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:40:43 -0500 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a bit of help- 1962 Post SPs From: mikesportsfan@aol.com The lists are not always completely accurate as to the sp's for Post and Jello. I would defer to the OBC expert Peter Mead or the best list of sp's. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Feb 4, 2017 10:10 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a bit of help- 1962 Post SPs I have been looking for a decent list with the SPs clearly marked- havent found one yet. Does anyone know which #s are SP? ================= To: , Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:46:50 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Slang From: "Grant Rainsley" Sounds a little =E2=9CMoofy=E2=9D to me=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February 4, 2017 7:37 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Slang I just got off the phone after an hour long conversation with Sam Taylor. As we were chatting I found out Sam was not aware that we actually have an OBC Slang dictionary. For those newer members, or those that have forgotten, on the OBC home page, go to OBC Specials. There is a link to the OBC Slang dictionary. Even more important, under Tipton Mint in the dictionary is a link to the Guru Grading Guide for those that have not seen the official grading scale. This is a must read for OBCers. I still cannot find the FOOT guide on the OBC site. With Eek back being active and the scrivener for the FOOT guide, I think he should submit it to the powers that be and have it added in the OBC Specials section or as a link to FOOT in the dictionary. I also think upon reviewing the FOOT guide that the term, TOEs, needs to be added to the dictionary. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2017 22:56:16 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Slang From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Mr. Rainsley, You are listed on the TOE roster in the copy of "The Official FOOT Manual" in my possession. I erred in referring to it as a Guide below. It is a"Manual". In reviewing the Manual I was thinking about the "Kid" trying to give himself a nickname. I actually have 2 listed in the Manual. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: mikesportsfan ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Feb 4, 2017 10:46 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Slang Sounds a little =E2=9CMoofy=E2=9D to me=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February 4, 2017 7:37 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Slang I just got off the phone after an hour long conversation with Sam Taylor. As we were chatting I found out Sam was not aware that we actually have an OBC Slang dictionary. For those newer members, or those that have forgotten, on the OBC home page, go to OBC Specials. There is a link to the OBC Slang dictionary. Even more important, under Tipton Mint in the dictionary is a link to the Guru Grading Guide for those that have not seen the official grading scale. This is a must read for OBCers. I still cannot find the FOOT guide on the OBC site. With Eek back being active and the scrivener for the FOOT guide, I think he should submit it to the powers that be and have it added in the OBC Specials section or as a link to FOOT in the dictionary. I also think upon reviewing the FOOT guide that the term, TOEs, needs to be added to the dictionary. Mike Rich ================= Date: 05 Feb 2017 05:47:13 +0000 To: Subject: New Website - Please update on OBC website! From: lucifer33323@yahoo.com ================= Date: 05 Feb 2017 11:47:05 +0000 To: Subject: Out with the old, in with the new From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 05 Feb 2017 11:55:53 +0000 To: Subject: I do not want to Dodge(r) these issues From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 05 Feb 2017 13:01:16 +0000 To: Subject: Best Dealer Scum Ever! From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 09:25:34 -0500 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Best Dealer Scum Ever! From: Yahoo I second that!. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2017, at 08:58, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I would like to order 10 Fleer sets, 30 Red hearts, 1000 1963 tough series and 10 Hires sets please:) > On 02/05/17, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] > 1963 Fleer sets $3.00 > 1954 Red Hearts $1.50 > 1963 Topps tough 6th series $.03 cents each > 1958 Hires Rootbeer complete set $5.00 > These are from a 1963 Sporting News I found! Now the only real issue I see in us each getting one of each is the whole time travel thing! But, if we put our heads together knowing there is this kind of pay off it might bepossible! > Let me know if you come up with any ideas, Back to the Future style! > Cheers, > Nate Mack ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 09:46:04 -0500 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Best Dealer Scum Ever! From: Yahoo I would also like to have 20 sets of 1952 topps, no matter the price!. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2017, at 08:58, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I would like to order 10 Fleer sets, 30 Red hearts, 1000 1963 tough series and 10 Hires sets please:) > On 02/05/17, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] > 1963 Fleer sets $3.00 > 1954 Red Hearts $1.50 > 1963 Topps tough 6th series $.03 cents each > 1958 Hires Rootbeer complete set $5.00 > These are from a 1963 Sporting News I found! Now the only real issue I see in us each getting one of each is the whole time travel thing! But, if we put our heads together knowing there is this kind of pay off it might bepossible! > Let me know if you come up with any ideas, Back to the Future style! > Cheers, > Nate Mack ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:05:01 -0500 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a bit of help- 1962 Post SPs From: Anthony I agree but want to add that #10 is not an sp but seems to be a pain to find Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:13 AM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > IMHO--the 1962 Post set is the easiest of the three sets. The SPs are relatively easy compared to the tough cards in the other Post sets. Maybe we should rank the 1962 SPs in three categories difficult, moderate, and almost a non-SP: > Difficult--Clemente, Koufax and Jay blue line tints, Adock (name misspelled) > moderate-92 Sieburn, 101 Hodges, 83 Allison, 116 Coleman,127 Lynch, 55 Wynn, 69 Keough, 113 Larker, 131 McCovey, 140 Marichal, 158 Bill White, > Almost a non-SP--103 Spencer, 144 Almalfitano, 14 Cash (throws right), 60Geiger, 125 Brosnan, 189 Sam Taylor > Again just my opinion--all the moderately tough SPs are readily available, and the "almost a non-SPs" can be found for a buck or two (in fact, thereis an Amalfitano on eBay right now for $1). > take it all with a grain of salt, > peter mead > On 02/04/17, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > The lists are not always completely accurate as to the sp's for Post and Jello. I would defer to the OBC expert Peter Mead or the best list of sp's. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Sat, Feb 4, 2017 10:10 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a bit of help- 1962 Post SPs > I have been looking for a decent list with the SPs clearly marked- haventfound one yet. Does anyone know which #s are SP? > Thanks! > Ed > IMHO ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:28:08 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Out with the old, in with the new From: Andy Cook There's a big group of these on eBay now for 19.99 listed as Milwaukee Braves Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 11:14:39 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: New Website - Please update on OBC website! From: Wayne Delia General info: You can update your website link yourself, with a few quick From the OBC main website (http://oldbaseball.com), left side menu, click "Directory" button. On the Directory page, click the link "Update your address or collecting goals" under "OBC Member Features." On the OBC Member Profiles Services page, click the link "Update OBC Profile Information." Find and click on your member name on the drop-down list, and enter your On the OBC Member Profile Update for page, you can make any changes you want to your email, address, phones, preferences, favorite players, biography, and specific sets collected. Click the Update Profile button and you're all done. Most likely, you don't remember your password. On the OBC Member Profiles Services page, click the link "Email Current OBC Member Profile Password". Find and click on your member name on the drop-down list. The website will send your current password in a note to your email address that is currently on file. If you need your password AND your email address is outdated or obsolete, contact the webmaster - me - Wayne Delia, wayne.m.delia@gmail.com. ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 09:13:21 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Venezuelans From: Rick I have the opportunity to make a huge purchase of Venezuelans but wouldn't need many of them. Can't afford the price tag but think it a good deal. Part of the lot is some 62's not sure how many I need but there could be 120-150 different left over with some stars. Could be close to 3/4 of the set checking to see if there is any interest. Not sure of price still working on the deal. Also huge lot from the 64 and 66 sets. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 09:16:17 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1962 Post Cereal baseball #10 From: Larry Tipton I saw Anthonys messsge where he added #10 Ralph Terry as one of the tough to find cards 1962 Post. Sure enough I checked my list and it's one of the cards I need too. One thing I try to do to keep my spending in check as I close in on a set: After an eBay search only shows cards priced at full book or above book, goto the advanced search option and search for sold items. This card has sold over the past couple months for $6.50, $12, and $15 so it tells me that reasonably priced cards show up but I've just missed them. This little trick keeps me from overspending when I am anxious to finish a set. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Rick Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:20:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:07:40 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: super bowl contest! From: familytoad@comcast.net guess per player.
All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions.

You must pick the winning team and the score.
Your total points you pickedwill be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team.

Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun)
Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box)

"closeness" Example- team A 38  team B 28, total 66.
You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt)

Guess away!
OBC Forever
Brian

Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-)





Sentfrom XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:16:57 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Anyone Have any Chukky Okobi cards? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Guy played with the Steelers from 2001-2007. I know someone who does some work for him. Might be nice to add an autograph card to one of my frames... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:21:22 -0500 To: biggies@aol.com, familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I like Brian's example- Patriots 38, Falcons 28 66 points. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: familytoad ; obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2017 1:19 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! Pats 30, Falcons 27 -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2017 1:07 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself somethi ng nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mo bile App ================= Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 18:13:58 +0000 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Joel Freedman 34 31 New England. On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with > emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... > just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit > them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer > picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while > being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get > myself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:24:44 +0000 (UTC) To: "familytoad@comcast.net" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Donnie Barnett Falcons 31 Pats 30 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:29:38 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Super Bowl Contest From: Larry Tipton Falcons 34 Pats 31 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:33:44 -0500 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Depending on price I would be interested in the 62s. I am close on the 64s, and need mainly stars. 1966s is about 2/3 done. I assume you alreadyhad me down as a potential contributor on the purchase if made anyways. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Rick Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2017 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans I would have some interest in the Cardinals and the 67 Bart Shirley, but ofcourse the price is completely in charge, if you know what I mean. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] I have the opportunity to make a huge purchase of Venezuelans but wouldn't need many of them. Can't afford the price tag but think it a good deal. Part of the lot is some 62's not sure how many I need but there could be 120-150 different left over with some stars. Could be close to 3/4 of the set checking to see if there is any interest. Not sure of price still working on the deal. Also huge lot from the 64 and 66 sets. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:38:58 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Venezuelans From: Rick Had several people email me this is what I can say now. I don't know still negotiating the price for all don't know how Many different cards cause he hasn't listed numbers or if there is dupes but will havesome stars Spahn,Robinson etc. in the 62 portion guessing at $700 but don't hold me to it. 62 vg set lists at $7000 64's and 66's could be close to half the set also. Rick Sent from my iPad Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Rick wrote: > I have the opportunity to make a huge purchase of Venezuelans but wouldn't need many of them. Can't afford the price tag but think it a good deal. Part of the lot is some 62's not sure how many I need but there could be 120-150 different left over with some stars. Could be close to 3/4 of the set checking to see if there is any interest. Not sure of price still workingon the deal. Also huge lot from the 64 and 66 sets. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:49:19 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:53:00 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en Atlanta 29 New England 22 Randy Welk In a message dated 2/5/2017 10:07:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mo bile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:06:53 -0500 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Yahoo New England 28- Atlanta 31 (59). Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2017, at 13:07, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll getmyself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:09:02 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans From: Yahoo I would be interested also. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2017, at 13:33, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Rick, > Depending on price I would be interested in the 62s. I am close on the 64s, and need mainly stars. 1966s is about 2/3 done. I assume you already had me down as a potential contributor on the purchase if made anyways. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Rick > Cc: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2017 12:20 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans > Rick > I would have some interest in the Cardinals and the 67 Bart Shirley, but of course the price is completely in charge, if you know what I mean. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I have the opportunity to make a huge purchase of Venezuelans but wouldn't need many of them. Can't afford the price tag but think it a good deal. Part of the lot is some 62's not sure how many I need but there could be 120-150 different left over with some stars. Could be close to 3/4 of the set checking to see if there is any interest. Not sure of price still working on the deal. Also huge lot from the 64 and 66 sets. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 11:17:23 -0800 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: wite3 ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:19:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:47:50 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Super Bowl Contest From: bskp1@aol.com Falcons 29 Pats 19 Best regards, ================= To: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:54:09 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: "Bob Donaldson" I guess I=E2=99m a homer, but I don=E2=99t think it will be that close Pats 34 Falcons 20 54 total From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 2:19 PM To: familytoad@comcast.net Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! Falcons 28 Pats 17 Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:07 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:54:23 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Super Bowl Contest From: KEVINM38@aol.com PATS 37 ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:54:41 -0500 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Steve Pats 35, Falcons 14 Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:07 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll getmyself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:57:47 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 I'll play!!! Pats - 35 Falcons - 28 BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------------- MARK > On February 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCerpicks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'llget myself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:09:58 +0000 Subject: Penny sleeves From: Shawn Smart I remember someone waiver wiring these a while back. If there are any still available, I'd be interested. Shawn smart 125 East Main Street #522 Kings park NY 11754 Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 13:36:02 -0800 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: John Stamper Falcons 31 Pats 24 John Stamper > On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:57 AM, MARK TALBOT talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Brian, > I'll play!!! > Pats - 35 > Falcons - 28 > BE WELL!!! > REGARDS ------------------------- MARK >> On February 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Guess the final score. >> No edits, one guess per player. >> All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. >> You must pick the winning team and the score. >> Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", withemphasis on the score of the winning team. >> Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ...just because it's fun) >> Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) >> "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. >> You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) >> Guess away! >> OBC Forever >> Brian >> Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 21:51:46 +0000 (UTC) To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: tvalacak@comcast.net Patriots 36 Falcons 31 ----- Original Message ----- From: "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 12:07:40 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 14:58:57 -0700 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Marshall West I=E2=99m in! ATL- 34 NEW- 27 Marshall West > On Feb 5, 2017, at 11:07 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll getmyself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:13:11 -0500 To: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Ron H Ne 38 Atl 31 Ron Hoehne > On Feb 5, 2017, at 4:51 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Patriots 36 > Falcons 31 > TJ > From: "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 12:07:40 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll getmyself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 22:07:11 GMT To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: "Rick Keating" Content-Disposition: inline ATL 31 NE 28 - Rick ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 22:09:12 +0000 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Matthew Glidden Atlanta 27 - NE 26, but refs will miss something late that could've given NE a new shot at a FG and ESPN will spend 6 months of off-season talking about it. On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with > emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... > just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit > them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer > picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while > being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get > myself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 22:07:57 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Original Photos project From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, So another one of my collecting interests is getting a copy of the originalphoto that was used to make any of the 1952 Topps baseball cards. Getting the photo isideal, but even getting a picture is great too. These photos appeared in many places: The Dixie lid premiums, Drakes, Bowman cards (in fact every card of Sheldon just comes from the same Topps photo!), exhibits, Sport Life magazine, etc. If you ever stumble across an original image of a 1952 topps card, I would LOVE it if you would give me a head up. I have somepicture of the original photo for 100 cards (a lot are VERY poor and can be improved) -so I need the vast majority. (And yes, I've seen the Mantle and all of the ones listed on the 1952topps.com site.) And as an aside, many of these photos were originally taken by Bill Jocobellis of the NY Daily News during Spring training in 1952. Old copies of the the NY Daily news probably have many of these - but on the left coast, getting these has proved challenging. Like I said, if you stumble across anything, I would LOVE to hear about it. ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:16:41 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: superbowl pool foul up and correction! From: Sean McGowan Please re-check http://sean-mcgowan.org/pool-17.htm for the small changes. I gave John S too many squares, so I redrew using my 2002 set from 601-640 and Marshal W and Nick P each got a 3rd square. Sorry for the foul up! ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:25:41 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Best Dealer Scum Ever! From: Wayne Delia From Woody Gelman's catalog (The Card Collectors Company): 1953 through 1968 Topps, for most years in the 1960's: "Aaron and Clemente, 10 cents each. Mantle, Mays, Spahn, Koufax 25 cents each." 1968 Topps entire 2nd series, $2.85. All cards dead mint, no flaws. ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:26:05 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 Post Cereal baseball #10 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I meant to mention that if you are NOT a variation collector (and if not, why not???), and you just want a photo of each card, instead of just doing the 1962 Post BB, you can get a Post Canadian or Jello. Photo is the same, as is the text, although there is also the French text on the Canadian version. This may be a way to avoid the cost of the shortprints for this issue. Similar for 1963 Post and Jello, except for 61 Adair, which is a shortprint in both sets. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2017 12:16 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 Post Cereal baseball #10 I saw Anthonys messsge where he added #10 Ralph Terry as one of the tough to find cards 1962 Post. Sure enough I checked my list and it's one of the cards I need too. One thing I try to do to keep my spending in check as I close in on a set: After an eBay search only shows cards priced at full book or above book, goto the advanced search option and search for sold items. This card has sold over the past couple months for $6.50, $12, and $15 so it tells me that reasonably priced cards show up but I've just missed them. This little trick keeps me from overspending when I am anxious to finish a set. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:55:15 -0500 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: Rob Bessette I responded just to Brian, but it seems like the trend is to reply all. Pats 32 Falcons 17 > On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:07 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll getmyself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:57:59 -0500 To: Sean McGowan Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] superbowl pool foul up and correction! From: Doug DeJong What is the record for "Most OBC Superbowl Contests played without ever winning"? I have never won although I think I have played every year! LOL. Oh well, I have tended to do just fine with the NCAA contest. I have a 2 in two of my three combos this time, so I tend to keep my streak going!! Good luck everyone. On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Sean McGowan seanobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Please re-check http://sean-mcgowan.org/pool-17.htm for the small > changes. I gave John S too many squares, so I redrew using my 2002 set > from 601-640 and Marshal W and Nick P each got a 3rd square. Sorry for the > foul up! > Sean ================= Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 23:01:49 +0000 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Game Time! From: Joel Freedman ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 23:08:01 +0000 Subject: Re: super bowl contest! From: Mac Wubben I'll guess NE 28 ATL 21 (49) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 1:07 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 18:21:41 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Atlanta 41 NE 36 This would net me a large hit in my Super Bowl pool too! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/5/2017 1:07:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Guess the final score. No edits, one guess per player. All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. You must pick the winning team and the score. Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCer picks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) Guess away! OBC Forever Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'll get myself something nice :-) Sent from XFINITY Connect Mo bile App ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 17:32:22 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Super Bowl Contest From: Greg IPad Pats 24 Falcons 17. My guess. Greg Miller ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 15:37:53 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Update Venezuelans From: Rick Well I can't get him lower than $1500 for the cards. Positive note I believe it a good price for 600 cards with stars in each year. If I had to break it down half for the 62's. Can't commit to prices yet due to not knowing what I'll need out of them. But hoping for 2/3-3/4 of the 62 set,1/2 of the 64 and 66 sets. All three groups should have some stars. If this helps you guys on the fence lmk. I'm going to give it the evening to decide if I'm going to pull the trigger. Without being able to sell most I'll probably pass on For those wondering he doesn't let me pick out cards to hit my sets its buythe group he has or nothing and he's never had this many before. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 23:53:24 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: SB contest update From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:07:17 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: first sb pool winner From: Sean McGowan Joel Freedman!!! update that wantlist Joel! These guys work fast. Go OBC ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:08:58 +0000 Subject: A few Sporting News available From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:18:42 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Greenville report - the old guy's version -- and a trip to the From: Doug DeJong Thought it would be great for my wife and I to have a get away weekend in nearby Greenville SC and check out their downtown river area, etc. Just happened there was a small hotel show in town. What a random happenstance?! I saw Jake "the self-proclaimed kid" Brewer waiting for the doors to open. Jake and I have been running into each other at shows in the area and it is always a good time. As Jake mentioned, we bundled a purchase form a guy with a ton of shiny stuff and one binder of stars from the late 50s through the 70s, mostly 70s. Jake got a great deal on a stack of cards including lots of HOFers. I can't complain as my $15 got me a Bench RC, a 68 Rose, 68 Hunter, 70 Clemente, 61 Drysdale, 71 Joe Morgan, 73 Joe Morgan, and a 72 Bonds. Only needed the Bonds but figured the dupe box could hold the Now Jake, being 'the kid', somehow goes to the card show with NO MONEY. Apparently, there is this thing called the internet and he has his phone talk to this internet and send his Pals the Pay for the cards. OK, but at some point "the kid" was wanting to buy some cards from a dealer as old as me who doesn't want to talk to his phone to get the Pay from his Pal. So, guess who has to turned to his self proclaimed "Uncle to the Kid" for the cash to buy a $15 56 Snider card? (That was worth much more in that condition -- nice deal!)? It was kind of cool that within one minute my phone is telling me that the money that just left my wallet has been replaced in my bank account,... but that is not the point!!! These kids and their new fangled internet thing-ama-jig. Sigh. Not much else was going on at the show but I did pick up a nice group of 60 and 61 Topps football and got the 60 set down to THREE! After the show we did hit up downtown Greenville and stumbled on a statue of Shoeless Joe! Apparently he grew up in the town and lived out his days there. A small sign said the museum was 1.5 blocks away. My wife said "We are going". I really love her. We found the museum, which is a small house in the shadows of the town's minor league ball field. Small little house common to the day. Pretty cool. As I was looking at some things on the wall the old man staffing the place walked up and told me Joe died in that room in the very spot I was standing. We were pretty much the only people there so he and I chatted a long time while my wife read everything there was to read at each display. It isn't vary large or extensive. I did find myself wondering if those were original cards in the display case. (The Joe Jackson Cracker Jack card looked real through the glass!) Spent some money on a Joe Jackson t-shirt, a book, and a couple reprints cards. Definitely worth the time if anyone gets to Greenville! I hear there is a game on sometime tonight, so I will end it here. ================= Date: 06 Feb 2017 00:26:00 +0000 To: Subject: Small show report- Strongsville OH From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:38:54 +0000 (UTC) To: Doug DeJong , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Greenville report - the old guy's version -- From: Geno Wagner Doug -- Are you talking about that "information super highway" thing? Kids today have no idea how hard it was to get some kid's dad's Playboy back in the Take Care,Geno Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 18:18, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Thought it would be great for my wife and I to have a get away weekend in nearby Greenville SC and check out their downtown river area, etc. Just happened there was a small hotel show in town. What a random happenstance?! I saw Jake "the self-proclaimed kid" Brewer waiting for the doors to open. Jake and I have been running into each other at shows in the area and it is always a good time. As Jake mentioned, we bundled a purchase form a guy with a ton of shiny stuff and one binder of stars from the late 50s through the 70s, mostly 70s. Jake got a great deal on a stack of cards including lots of HOFers. I can't complain as my $15 got me a Bench RC, a 68 Rose, 68 Hunter, 70 Clemente, 61 Drysdale, 71 Joe Morgan, 73 Joe Morgan, and a 72 Bonds. Only needed the Bonds but figured the dupe box could hold the rest. Now Jake, being 'the kid', somehow goes to the card show with NO MONEY. Apparently, there is this thing called the internet and he has his phone talk to this internet and send his Pals the Pay for the cards. OK, but at some point "the kid" was wanting to buy some cards from a dealer as old as me who doesn't want to talk to his phone to get the Pay from his Pal. So, guess who has to turned to his self proclaimed "Uncle to the Kid" for the cash to buy a $15 56 Snider card? (That was worth much more in that condition -- nice deal!)? It was kind of cool that within one minute my phone is telling me that the money that just left my wallet has beenreplaced in my bank account,... but that is not the point!!! These kids and their new fangled internet thing-ama-jig. Sigh. Not much else was going on at the show but I did pick up a nice group of 60and 61 Topps football and got the 60 set down to THREE! After the show we did hit up downtown Greenville and stumbled on a statue of Shoeless Joe! Apparently he grew up in the town and lived out his days there. A small sign said the museum was 1.5 blocks away. Mywife said "We are going". I really love her. We found the museum, which is a small house in the shadows of the town's minor league ball field. Small little house common to the day. Pretty cool. As I was looking at some things on the wall the old man staffing the place walked up and told me Joe died in that room in the very spot I was standing. We were pretty much the only people there so he and I chatted a long time while my wife read everything there was to read at each display. It isn't vary large or extensive. I did find myself wondering if those were original cards in the display case. (The Joe Jackson Cracker Jack card looked real through the glass!) Spent some money on a Joe Jackson t-shirt, a book, and a couple reprints cards. Definitely worth the time if anyone gets to Greenville! I hear there is a game on sometime tonight, so I will end it here. ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:05:58 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Post Cereal baseball #10 From: "Thomas W. Billing" What caused some Post cards to be horribly scarce? I looked through the partial sets I had when, as kid, I cut the cards off the backs of my Post Grape-nuts Flakes boxes and I HAVE the #10 Ralph Terry but have darned few of the entire set. I recently undertook a project to get all remaining Reds played in all three sets as well as all remaining Browns in the 1962 set. Idiscovered that Eddie Kasko was a budget-buster, although I got one a little more reasonably and that Sam Baker in the Browns set was astronomical inprice. I did manage to get a Baker for a little over a bill from Kate Vintage or something like that as a result of a google search for the card. Iwas curious to see if anyone had researched the reason some players were scarce. Tom Billing > On Feb 5, 2017, at 5:26 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I meant to mention that if you are NOT a variation collector (and if not,why not???), and you just want a photo of each card, instead of just doingthe 1962 Post BB, you can get a Post Canadian or Jello. Photo is the same, as is the text, although there is also the French text on the Canadian version. This may be a way to avoid the cost of the shortprints for this issue. Similar for 1963 Post and Jello, except for 61 Adair, which is a shortprint in both sets. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: OBC-Ramblings > > Sent: Sun, Feb 5, 2017 12:16 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1962 Post Cereal baseball #10 > I saw Anthonys messsge where he added #10 Ralph Terry as one of the toughto find cards 1962 Post. Sure enough I checked my list and it's one of thecards I need too. > One thing I try to do to keep my spending in check as I close in on a set: After an eBay search only shows cards priced at full book or above book, go to the advanced search option and search for sold items. > This card has sold over the past couple months for $6.50, $12, and $15 soit tells me that reasonably priced cards show up but I've just missed them. > This little trick keeps me from overspending when I am anxious to finish a > Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 20:08:53 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: quarter 2 winner! From: Sean McGowan is Geordie Calvert! Congrats! ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 21:22:13 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Marshall West wins the 3rd quarter! From: Sean McGowan Why do we call you "lucky" Marshall? ================= Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 22:31:50 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl contest! From: MARK TALBOT MIME-Version: 1.0 That Pats 35 - Falcons 28 final score looks pretty dog gone good!!! BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------------------- MARK > On February 5, 2017 at 1:07 PM "familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Guess the final score. > No edits, one guess per player. > All guesses before kickoff, no exceptions. > You must pick the winning team and the score. > Your total points you picked will be used to determine "closeness", with emphasis on the score of the winning team. > Ties could result in multiple winners. (I might send multiple prizes ... just because it's fun) > Prizes are vintage baseball or Football cards from your list (if I can hit them, or a nice hit or two for your dupes box) > "closeness" Example- team A 38 team B 28 , total 66. > You choose 35-30 (65) and you think you nailed it...but another OBCerpicks 37-30 (67) and he wins for being closest to the winners score while being the same total score away (1pt) > Guess away! > OBC Forever > Brian > Btw- my prediction is New England 27, Atlanta 20 (47). If I win, I'llget myself something nice :-) > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 19:47:19 -0800 Subject: Super Super Bowl From: "George Vrechek" Wow, was that a game! It was easier to watch for those of us who didn't have a dog in the fight. Very tough game to lose, but what an exhilarating comeback. It has to be one of the games that will become most memorable, with many memorable plays - at least for the moment. Plus it was the only overtime game. George Vrechek ================= To: "george.altemose3@gmail.com" , Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 05:06:00 +0000 Subject: Card Show Review/ramble - Long Island From: Shawn Smart On a whim, I went to my first local card show today in years. This one wasa 40 table show in a small VFW hall in Medford, Long Island. It was interesting and a pleasant surprise. There were a few tables that had non baseball stuff, including one selling Avon products and another selling roofing material...not sure how they fit in. There were also a few that were exclusively very modern cards, like only 2000 and up. However there was a decent amount of vintage. There was one dealer who's business card said he only sold cards from 52 through 60. He had a great inventory, although mostly stabbed, however I plan on talking to him more to see if he could help some of our lists. I was not looking to spend big money today and made out in two bargain bin type situations. One was a strange table from a guy who had tons of comicsalong with a small box of cards. I don't think he knew much about cards because every card was priced $2. An 86 Topps Kirk McCaskill...$2. An 88 Fleer Kevin Bass...$2. However I found a few gems in there. I managed to get a 72 high Ken Tatum, a 55 Bowman high Harry Chiti and a 70 high all for 2 bucks a pop and all in great shape. The other table I made out on was a guy who had all modern wax boxes. Then I saw a small stack of vintage with a post-it on top that said "2 for $1". All the cards were from 65-73 and weirdly, all Indians. Every one. Igrabbed 6 cards - a 65 high Billy Moran, 3 highs from 69, a 70 high and a72 semi- hi, for 3 bucks. All ex-mt. There were some other interesting tables. One lady had a lot of nice vintage, but no prices on anything which kind of drives me nuts. Another table had a very extensive vintage auto collection and a binder of pre-war. I only spent $9 total but I could have spent more if I was looking to knocksome of the bigger stars off my list. But after just returning from vacation, that was not in the cards...literally. There is another show here on March 26th. Maybe some of the other Long Island guys would be interested (George, Dan, Jeff, Sal, Kevin)? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 00:19:53 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: "I don't believe what I just saw!" - Jack Buck (1988) - Sean McGowan (2017) From: Sean McGowan So, according to the rules, which have always been right there at the bottom of the page, and were not just ammended by me a few minutes ago, there is an extra winner for each OT period. In this case just one. So Matt Yudt is our 4th quarter winner, and Brian Lindholme is our OT winner. I know this means we all have to look over an extra wantlist, but remember this is all good natured, do your best, stuff. If you can only hit 4 of the 5 winners, call it good. I know most of us will make it. So, Brian,Matt,Lucky,Geordie, and Joel, get those want lists up to date! Everyone remember to email me the number of cards you send to each winner. Just so you know, I don't keep track of who sends what, just of the numbers so I can run that total up near 7,000! Go OBC NE fans, try to get some sleep! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 05:22:57 +0000 Subject: Lost package From: Shawn Smart I am sure this has been discussed before, but is there any recourse with the PO for a lost/stolen package without tracking? All the sender has is a Post Office receipt #. Thanks in advance. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:21:15 -0500 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lost package From: "Thomas W. Billing" I believe there is, but with PayPal or eBay. I had one a month ago that never showed up and eBay had me furnish info on it. The seller had not replied to my message through eBay, where I always mention NOT having tracking info on it, and never heard back. eBay found in my favor. On a side note, does anyone think I should give neutral or negative feedback on this seller since he never replied to me and never attempted to fix the Tom Billing > On Feb 6, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I am sure this has been discussed before, but is there any recourse with the PO for a lost/stolen package without tracking? All the sender has is a Post Office receipt #. Thanks in advance. > Shawn > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 13:20:55 -0500 To: twbilling@sbcglobal.net, shawnsmart@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lost package From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Absolutely give negative feedback. If you had to go to Ebay, because he did not respond, it is a no brainer to give negative feedback. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Shawn Smart Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2017 10:21 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lost package I believe there is, but with PayPal or eBay. I had one a month ago that never showed up and eBay had me furnish info on it. The seller had not replied to my message through eBay, where I always mention NOT having tracking info on it, and never heard back. eBay found in my favor. On a side note, does anyone think I should give neutral or negative feedback on this seller since he never replied to me and never attempted to fix the Tom Billing On Feb 6, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] w rote: I am sure this has been discussed before, but is there any recourse with the PO for a lost/stolen package without tracking? All the sender has is a Post Office receipt #. Thanks in advance. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 15:51:21 -0500 To: seanobc@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SuperBowl Pool XVII--winning in the mail!! From: Joshua Levine Sean (and all)- Checked lists this morning and 14 cards total are out, split among the winners of the pool. I was glad to at least find at least one thing for all five -----Original Message----- From: Sean McGowan seanobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Feb 1, 2017 4:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SuperBowl Pool XVII Please check this year's pool so far at http://sean-mcgowan.org/pool-17.htm to make sure that you are in. Let me know if you want in and you aren't on the list. I may have said Thursday, but I think I will wait until Friday afternoon todraw numbers if that is ok. I need the extra day to figure out how to fix it so I can win again:) ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 16:20:59 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, twbilling@sbcglobal.net, shawnsmart@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lost package From: Mike Glasser I think that that is a no-brainer. Not responding means the seller is apathetic about your patronage. I would, however, give him a 2nd chance as I know that I lose emails on occasion. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: twbilling ; shawnsmart Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2017 1:21 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lost package Absolutely give negative feedback. If you had to go to Ebay, because he did not respond, it is a no brainer to give negative feedback. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Shawn Smart Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2017 10:21 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Lost package I believe there is, but with PayPal or eBay. I had one a month ago that never showed up and eBay had me furnish info on it. The seller had not replied to my message through eBay, where I always mention NOT having tracking info on it, and never heard back. eBay found in my favor. On a side note, does anyone think I should give neutral or negative feedback on this seller since he never replied to me and never attempted to fix the Tom Billing On Feb 6, 2017, at 12:22 AM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] w rote: I am sure this has been discussed before, but is there any recourse with the PO for a lost/stolen package without tracking? All the sender has is a Post Office receipt #. Thanks in advance. Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 22:25:24 +0000 Subject: who collects Pete Rose? From: Aaron Shirley I can't remember who... but I have a question for you... ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 23:22:54 +0000 Subject: Pre-war availables From: Mac Wubben I wonder if there is anything that will cause a faster response than that opening? Anyway...a few freebies to pass out. 1936 Diamond Matchbooks Team Name on Back Baxter Jordan (green) Charles Grimm (away, red) Ducky Medwick (green) Have at them. ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 19:51:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Superbowl pool From: KEVINM38@aol.com Sean or anyone Can you send me the winners and What a game Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 21:03:15 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1968 Milton Bradleys are here! From: Jimi Thayer Quick note to let you know that I received the Milton Bradleys today and they look awesome! Very excited to go through them and start making sets tomorrow for those who've shown interest. Be on the lookout for a message from me in the morning, and if you're still interested in a starter set or singles, please let me know! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 07 Feb 2017 02:28:04 +0000 To: Subject: Super Bowl pool stats From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 02:30:18 +0000 (UTC) To: "b_betza@yahoo.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super Bowl pool stats From: Geno Wagner If the Pats missed the conversion, the Falcons would have won...and so would I. Stupid Pats. Take Care,Geno Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 19:28, b_betza@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Every year I try to explain to my wifewhy I keep meaningless stats about a Super Bowl pool where the winners get baseball cards as prize money. Every year I fail. This year's winners include:MATT YUDT-- who is an incredible 3/6 and entersthe upper echelon of winnersMARSHALL WEST-- who completes a bookend with his 2nd victory in 15 tries-- he also won his first entry in 2003BRIAN LINDHOLME-- who also joins the 3 win club--- but his is out of 13 tries-- but his recent "Patriot like" surge has him winning all 3 in his last5!!GEORDIE CALVERT knows how to make a grand re-entry-- winning his first of 2 tries--- the last was in 2001!!!JOEL FREEDMAN also notches his first win out of 7 tries leaving the losers club for good!! ALL-TIME MOST WINSSEAN MCGOWAN-5KEVIN MARTENS-4MATT YUDT-3BRIAN LINDHOLME-3RANDY WELK-3MARK TALBOT-3STEVE HITZEMAN-3GERSH-3 FUTILITY CLUBGENO WAGNER 0-14SPIKE GLIDDEN 0-12BRIAN BETZA 0-11 (why do you think I started doing this :)JOHN STAMPER 0-9 ...thought this was Geno's year with the Cubs finally ending their drought--- did you have Bartman enter for you Geno? Until next year... Brian Betza ================= Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 19:30:27 -0800 To: "illini_grad_90@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super Bowl pool stats From: John Stamper Nice to see I made the list this year. And is it not 0/37. Lost all nine years, all four quarters and one overtime! Nice to see I have a few more years to get t Geno status!!! Thanks Brian. John Stamper > On Feb 6, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If the Pats missed the conversion, the Falcons would have won...and so would I. Stupid Pats. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > Every year I try to explain to my wife why I keep meaningless stats abouta Super Bowl pool where the winners get baseball cards as prize money. Every year I fail. > This year's winners include: > MATT YUDT-- who is an incredible 3/6 and enters the upper echelon of winners > MARSHALL WEST-- who completes a bookend with his 2nd victory in 15 tries-- he also won his first entry in 2003 > BRIAN LINDHOLME-- who also joins the 3 win club--- but his is out of 13 tries-- but his recent "Patriot like" surge has him winning all 3 in his last > GEORDIE CALVERT knows how to make a grand re-entry-- winning his first of2 tries--- the last was in 2001!!! > JOEL FREEDMAN also notches his first win out of 7 tries leaving the losers club for good!! > ALL-TIME MOST WINS > SEAN MCGOWAN-5 > KEVIN MARTENS-4 > MATT YUDT-3 > BRIAN LINDHOLME-3 > RANDY WELK-3 > MARK TALBOT-3 > STEVE HITZEMAN-3 > GERSH-3 > FUTILITY CLUB > GENO WAGNER 0-14 > SPIKE GLIDDEN 0-12 > BRIAN BETZA 0-11 (why do you think I started doing this :) > JOHN STAMPER 0-9 > ...thought this was Geno's year with the Cubs finally ending their drought--- did you have Bartman enter for you Geno? > Until next year... > Brian Betza ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 07:11:39 -0500 To: "illini_grad_90@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super Bowl pool stats From: Mike Glasser If they made the pat, I would have won. So many ifs... Mike Glasser The Goddard School 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD. 21152 > On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If the Pats missed the conversion, the Falcons would have won...and so would I. Stupid Pats. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > Every year I try to explain to my wife why I keep meaningless stats abouta Super Bowl pool where the winners get baseball cards as prize money. Every year I fail. > This year's winners include: > MATT YUDT-- who is an incredible 3/6 and enters the upper echelon of winners > MARSHALL WEST-- who completes a bookend with his 2nd victory in 15 tries-- he also won his first entry in 2003 > BRIAN LINDHOLME-- who also joins the 3 win club--- but his is out of 13 tries-- but his recent "Patriot like" surge has him winning all 3 in his last > GEORDIE CALVERT knows how to make a grand re-entry-- winning his first of2 tries--- the last was in 2001!!! > JOEL FREEDMAN also notches his first win out of 7 tries leaving the losers club for good!! > ALL-TIME MOST WINS > SEAN MCGOWAN-5 > KEVIN MARTENS-4 > MATT YUDT-3 > BRIAN LINDHOLME-3 > RANDY WELK-3 > MARK TALBOT-3 > STEVE HITZEMAN-3 > GERSH-3 > FUTILITY CLUB > GENO WAGNER 0-14 > SPIKE GLIDDEN 0-12 > BRIAN BETZA 0-11 (why do you think I started doing this :) > JOHN STAMPER 0-9 > ...thought this was Geno's year with the Cubs finally ending their drought--- did you have Bartman enter for you Geno? > Until next year... > Brian Betza ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:55:21 -0500 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super Bowl pool stats From: Joel Freedman just think, I only won because no one scored! 0-0 On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If they made the pat, I would have won. So many ifs... > Mike Glasser > The Goddard School > 14630 York Rd > Sparks, MD. 21152 > On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:30 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If the Pats missed the conversion, the Falcons would have won...and so > would I. Stupid Pats. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > Every year I try to explain to my wife why I keep meaningless stats about > a Super Bowl pool where the winners get baseball cards as prize money. > Every year I fail. > This year's winners include: > MATT YUDT-- who is an incredible 3/6 and enters the upper echelon of > winners > MARSHALL WEST-- who completes a bookend with his 2nd victory in 15 tries-- > he also won his first entry in 2003 > BRIAN LINDHOLME-- who also joins the 3 win club--- but his is out of 13 > tries-- but his recent "Patriot like" surge has him winning all 3 in his > last 5!! > GEORDIE CALVERT knows how to make a grand re-entry-- winning his first of > 2 tries--- the last was in 2001!!! > JOEL FREEDMAN also notches his first win out of 7 tries leaving the losers > club for good!! > ALL-TIME MOST WINS > SEAN MCGOWAN-5 > KEVIN MARTENS-4 > MATT YUDT-3 > BRIAN LINDHOLME-3 > RANDY WELK-3 > MARK TALBOT-3 > STEVE HITZEMAN-3 > GERSH-3 > FUTILITY CLUB > GENO WAGNER 0-14 > SPIKE GLIDDEN 0-12 > BRIAN BETZA 0-11 (why do you think I started doing this :) > JOHN STAMPER 0-9 > ...thought this was Geno's year with the Cubs finally ending their > drought--- did you have Bartman enter for you Geno? > Until next year... > Brian Betza ================= Date: 07 Feb 2017 15:53:53 +0000 To: Subject: Fleer February From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 08:50:41 -0800 Subject: Postage Survey From: "George Vrechek" Many of us use 3 of the 9 pocket pages to mail cards. Including 9 (post 1956) cards seems safe. I have also sent from 10 to 12 and haven't heard of any problem. Does anyone have experience as to any USPS problem sending 12 cards? Or more than 12 cards? George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 11:55:43 -0500 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Depending on the cards, recently they have been charging me for more than 1oz. when I have more than 9 cards in an envelope. On a couple, even 9 cards has tipped over. Also, depending on the PO, they say it is not machinable and want a surcharge for that. I have stopped going to the counter and just mailed them using 1 stamp for up to 9 cards. I have not heard of any problems or anyone informing me of postage due (I have sent out rambles asking that question a few times). Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 11:50 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey Many of us use 3 of the 9 pocket pages to mail cards. Including 9 (post 1956) cards seems safe. I have also sent from 10 to 12 and haven=E2=99t heard of any problem. Does anyone have experience as to any USPS problem sending 12 cards? Or more than 12 cards? George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:15:57 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey From: Anson Whaley George, I know I shared this with you before individually but thought I would reply to the group as well. Mike is correct about going to the post office. If you do that, they will often tell you the thickness variance is the issue. The machines are capable of handling 1/4" (I think that is the max) thickness for it to be processed as a regular first-class envelope as long as it has the same thickness throughout. But with cards/sleeves, that often makes the thickness not uniform and they will want to charge you as a 'package' since it may not go through the machine properly (tearing the envelope, etc.). I've never had this problem myself but have heard of it. If they charge you as a package, it does not go through the standard machine for envelopes to my knowledge. If you are willing to take the risk that way and dealing with lower-value items, your best bet is to drop it in a mail slot as Mike says to avoid the hassle of a potential upcharge. Not saying a problem can't happen but I've sent hundreds of envelopes that way over the years and haven't had a problem. The key is always to just make the envelope as uniformly thick as And one way to help safeguard against the machine tearing the envelope is by placing a strip of clear packing tape across the seams of the back, assuming that will not push you over the one ounce limit. That will help firm things up a bit. I also would highly recommend a small scale for anyone mailing out similar packages where the weight may be in question. I bought one many years ago that has served me well and it only cost me about $15 or so. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:55 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Depending on the cards, recently they have been charging me for more than > 1 oz. when I have more than 9 cards in an envelope. On a couple, even 9 > cards has tipped over. Also, depending on the PO, they say it is not > machinable and want a surcharge for that. I have stopped going to the > counter and just mailed them using 1 stamp for up to 9 cards. I have not > heard of any problems or anyone informing me of postage due (I have sent > out rambles asking that question a few times). > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 11:50 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey > Many of us use 3 of the 9 pocket pages to mail cards. Including 9 (post > 1956) cards seems safe. I have also sent from 10 to 12 and haven=E2=99t heard of > any problem. Does anyone have experience as to any USPS problem sending 12 > cards? Or more than 12 cards? > George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:19:22 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Ramble/Thanks From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I have been out in California (babysitting duties) for 35 +\- days and arrived home late last night. Got to the gate at JAX airport around 11:30PM butthey couldn=E2=99t get the jet-way to move towards the plane. So we gottowed to another gate, never had that happen before LOL! So good to be home:) I went ahead and just shut down my pool, and spent a couple hours cleaning out leaves and adding water but it looks like a good choice because it wasn=E2=99t all that bad. Plus my electric bill was the lowest I think it has ever been $71. One of the first things I did this AM was cut off this beard I have been growing for several months. All my lady friends hated it, all my guy friends loved it LOL! I liked it but it was such a pain to eat food, then I had a haircut appt at 10, so I am all cleaned up. I want to thank Sean McGowan for running our Super Bowl pool, really one ofmany OBC yearly highlights. I enjoyed the videos as well Sean. The US Post Office has been holding my mail, and I love collecting it afterI am gone. After sorting through it all, it appears I have 20 eBay wins, 4Auction wins, 1 return package from SGC for a group of cards I sent off for grading. I may try to make a video when I open this package from SGC in case you have never sent something in for grading, Ill post it on the OBC Facebook page if I can. Most important NINE big packages from OBC members, and thanks will be forthcoming once I open everything up. I took a picture of this haul and will post on the OBC Facebook page. That=E2=99s about it for now, time to open up some mail! ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 12:22:13 -0500 To: ansonwhaley@gmail.com, mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey From: Mike Glasser I use Stamps.com for lots of postage. For their starter package you get a free scale. Now I'm not one of those people who ever have to go to the post office as that silly commercial points out. My life is so much better haha. I use is for my schools so the business pays the monthly fee but it is quite handy to have. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: mikesportsfan Cc: George Vrechek ; obc ramblings Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 12:16 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey George, I know I shared this with you before individually but thought I would reply to the group as well. Mike is correct about going to the post office. If you do that, they will often tell you the thickness variance is the issue. The machines are capableof handling 1/4" (I think that is the max) thickness for it to be processed as a regular first-class envelope as long as it has the same thickness throughout. But with cards/sleeves, that often makes the thickness not uniform and they will want to charge you as a 'package' since it may not go through the machine properly (tearing the envelope, etc.). I've never had this problem myself but have heard of it. If they charge you as a package, it does not go through the standard machine for envelopes to my knowledge. If you are willing to take the risk that way and dealing with lower-value items, your best bet is to drop it in a mail slot as Mike says to avoid the hassle of a potential upcharge. Not saying a problem can't happen but I've sent hundreds of envelopes that way over the years and haven't had a problem. The key is always to just make the envelope as uniformly thick as possible. And one way to help safeguard against the machine tearing the envelope is by placing a strip of clear packing tape across the seams of the back, assuming that will not push you over the one ounce limit. That will help firm things up a bit. I also would highly recommend a small scale for anyone mailing out similar packages where the weight may be in question. I bought one many years ago that has served me well and it only cost me about $15 or so. On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:55 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Depending on the cards, recently they have been charging me for more than 1oz. when I have more than 9 cards in an envelope. On a couple, even 9 cards has tipped over. Also, depending on the PO, they say it is not machinable and want a surcharge for that. I have stopped going to the counter and just mailed them using 1 stamp for up to 9 cards. I have not heard of any problems or anyone informing me of postage due (I have sent out rambles asking that question a few times). Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 11:50 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey Many of us use 3 of the 9 pocket pages to mail cards. Including 9 (post 1956) cards seems safe. I have also sent from 10 to 12 and haven=E2=99t heard of any problem. Does anyone have experience as to any USPS problem sending 12 cards? Or more than 12 cards? George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 09:26:44 -0800 To: Anson Whaley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey From: John Stamper A scale is the best time and money saver. No need to overpay or run to the PO. Also a side note about shipping. If you send a lot of cards, a couple hundred or so, use a small flat rate box. It costs about $6. Larger bulk cards can go in a medium flat rate box for $13.60. You can fit about three 600 count boxes in the medium frb. Just a way to save a little cash. John Stamper > On Feb 7, 2017, at 9:15 AM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > George, I know I shared this with you before individually but thought I would reply to the group as well. > Mike is correct about going to the post office. If you do that, they willoften tell you the thickness variance is the issue. The machines are capable of handling 1/4" (I think that is the max) thickness for it to be processed as a regular first-class envelope as long as it has the same thickness throughout. But with cards/sleeves, that often makes the thickness not uniform and they will want to charge you as a 'package' since it may not go through the machine properly (tearing the envelope, etc.). I've never had thisproblem myself but have heard of it. If they charge you as a package, it does not go through the standard machine for envelopes to my knowledge. > If you are willing to take the risk that way and dealing with lower-valueitems, your best bet is to drop it in a mail slot as Mike says to avoid the hassle of a potential upcharge. Not saying a problem can't happen but I've sent hundreds of envelopes that way over the years and haven't had a problem. The key is always to just make the envelope as uniformly thick as possible. > And one way to help safeguard against the machine tearing the envelope isby placing a strip of clear packing tape across the seams of the back, assuming that will not push you over the one ounce limit. That will help firm things up a bit. > I also would highly recommend a small scale for anyone mailing out similar packages where the weight may be in question. I bought one many years agothat has served me well and it only cost me about $15 or so. > Anson >> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 11:55 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Depending on the cards, recently they have been charging me for more than 1 oz. when I have more than 9 cards in an envelope. On a couple, even 9 cards has tipped over. Also, depending on the PO, they say it is not machinable and want a surcharge for that. I have stopped going to the counter and just mailed them using 1 stamp for up to 9 cards. I have not heard of any problems or anyone informing me of postage due (I have sent out rambles asking that question a few times). >> Mike Rich >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: OBC-Ramblings >> Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 11:50 am >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Postage Survey >> Many of us use 3 of the 9 pocket pages to mail cards. Including 9 (post 1956) cards seems safe. I have also sent from 10 to 12 and haven=E2=99t heard of any problem. Does anyone have experience as to any USPS problem sending 12 cards? Or more than 12 cards? >> George Vrechek ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 19:52:02 +0000 Subject: 1952 Topps Look n See From: Aaron Shirley I just started a brand new sixty-five year old set. What a satisfying thought. And boy, I love these cards! I just bought my first eleven 1952 Topps Look 'n See as a result of the recent mention of some for sale by Alan Miley. Seriously, I had no idea these cards were so cool. Okay, now I have a newfavorite, at least for the time being. I found some orange safety goggles and can kinda read the secret message a little easier. Anyone else have anyclever ideas for reading them? Who else collects this set? Anyone finish it? What were the stoppers? Ruth and... OBC's newest Look 'n See fan, ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 15:07:52 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re: 1952 Topps Look N See From: LAWRENCE TIPTON To read the backs: 1. Go to your offices =E2=9CCandy Dish=E2=9D 2. Pick out a hard candy that is wrapped in red plastic (usually a cinnamoncandy) 3. Unwrap candy 4. Throw candy away 5. Use the red plastic wrap to read the backs ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 16:48:37 -0800 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps Look n See From: John Stamper Larry nailed it with the red cellophane wrapper. The cards actually came with a pice for viewing. The set is Look' N See! I finished it a number of years ago. A little help from Rick Lyons and Sean McGowan with the final two cards. Rembrandt is the most expensive in the set. I would buy any I found at a great price. Once had around ten of them, down to just two. I met Mike Berkus on line when I was putting my set together. He was chasing hi end cards and also gathering a bunch of them. We helped each other outwith collecting these. Mike was in charge of the National and hooked me upwith a bunch of Badges and other goodies when I went in 2008. He passed away recently. Whenever I pull my Look 'N See set out I think of Mike. What agreat John Stamper > On Feb 7, 2017, at 11:52 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I just started a brand new sixty-five year old set. What a satisfying thought. And boy, I love these cards! I just bought my first eleven 1952 ToppsLook 'n See as a result of the recent mention of some for sale by Alan Miley. Seriously, I had no idea these cards were so cool. Okay, now I have a new favorite, at least for the time being. I found some orange safety goggles and can kinda read the secret message a little easier. Anyone else have any clever ideas for reading them? > Who else collects this set? Anyone finish it? What were the stoppers? Ruth > OBC's newest Look 'n See fan, > Aaron ================= Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 21:44:28 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: My First Graded Submissions From: ChicoD1@aol.com Thought I'd share my first venture into the "dark side" with my graded submissions that came back. SGC doesn't grade Milton Bradley's but that's what the Ryan is... The McCormick came back as a 4, was hoping for a 5... Item No.YearPublisherSetCard#Player(s)DescriptionGrade 11968Topps177NOLAN RYANROOKIE_40_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=11508) 21971O-Pee-Chee596MIKE JORGENSEN_60_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=243445) 31971O-Pee-Chee573ED KRANEPOOL_70_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=275307) 41971O-Pee-Chee751AL WEISHigh#_60_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=378662) 51971O-Pee-Chee687RON TAYLORHigh#_80_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=248972) 61968Topps400MIKE MCCORMICKWhite Team Letters_40_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=182792) 71952Bowman218WILLIE MAYSHigh#_20_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=4213) 81952Bowman101MICKEY MANTLE_10_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=4133) 91967Topps581TOM SEAVERROOKIE High#_20_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid=11330) 101952Topps312JACKIE ROBINSONHigh#Altered Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 02:56:19 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: richard dingman Interesting, as one who has never gone down that road, what did this adventure Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:44 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions Thought I'd share my first venture into the "dark side" with my graded submissions that came back. SGC doesn't grade Milton Bradley's but that's what the Ryan is... The McCormick came back as a 4, was hoping for a 5... Item No.YearPublisherSetCard#Player(s)DescriptionGrade 11968Topps177NOLAN RYANROOKIE40 21971O-Pee-Chee596MIKE JORGENSEN60 31971O-Pee-Chee573ED KRANEPOOL70 41971O-Pee-Chee751AL WEISHigh#60 51971O-Pee-Chee687RON TAYLORHigh#80 61968Topps400MIKE MCCORMICKWhite Team Letters40 71952Bowman218WILLIE MAYSHigh#20 81952Bowman101MICKEY MANTLE10 91967Topps581TOM SEAVERROOKIE High#20 101952Topps312JACKIE ROBINSONHigh#Altered Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 01:59:19 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I joined their gold club for 129 which included 10 submissions and about $15 return postage. And they have monthly specials. From an investor standpoint, I know it just increased the value of those cards (god knows why). those are some of my biggest cards, so having them slabbed probably makes sense, even if I don't really believe in it. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/7/2017 9:56:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brightair@msn.com writes: Interesting, as one who has never gone down that road, what did this adventure cost? Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:44 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions Thought I'd share my first venture into the "dark side" with my graded submissions that came back. SGC doesn't grade Milton Bradley's but that's what the Ryan is... The McCormick came back as a 4, was hoping for a 5... Item No.YearPublisherSetCard#Player(s)DescriptionGrade 11968Topps177NOLAN RYANROOKIE_40_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid11508) 21971O-Pee-Chee596MIKE JORGENSEN_60_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid243445) 31971O-Pee-Chee573ED KRANEPOOL_70_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid275307) 41971O-Pee-Chee751AL WEISHigh#_60_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid378662) 51971O-Pee-Chee687RON TAYLORHigh#_80_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid248972) 61968Topps400MIKE MCCORMICKWhite Team Letters_40_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid182792) 71952Bowman218WILLIE MAYSHigh#_20_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid4213) 81952Bowman101MICKEY MANTLE_10_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid4133) 91967Topps581TOM SEAVERROOKIE High#_20_ (http://www.sgccard.com/PopulationReport.aspx?cardid11330) 101952Topps312JACKIE ROBINSONHigh#Altered Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 07:56:02 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Re: My First Graded Submissions From: LAWRENCE TIPTON What does it cost? I recently sent off a ten card lot to SGC for grading. Iam not a member of their =E2=9CGold Club=E2=9D so I am not offered all of the special pricing that the members get. In todays =E2=9Cmarket=E2=9D, when an expensive (and needed) =E2=9Craw=E2=9D card shows up on eBay, one of the first things you must askyourself is =E2=9Cwhy is this card not slabbed=E2=9D. I purchased a =E2=9Craw=E2=9D 1949 Bowman baseball #50 Jackie Robinson RC via eBay at a fair price. As soon as the card arrived, I shipped it right off to SGC, along with a few others. Twenty working days later, the results appeared on the SGC website, and confirmed that the 1949 Bowman JackieRobinson was indeed legit and received a =E2=9C10=E2=9D grade. As soon as I saw these results I left positive feedback for the seller. If the card would have been deemed a fake, I would have requested my money back from the seller following eBay procedures. So what did it cost for a non member of the =E2=9CGold Club=E2=9D? USPS Shipping, Insurance, Signature to SGC $10.46 Non-Member fee to grade 10 cards ($8 each) $80 USPS shipping and insurance back to me $16 Total including shipping and grading fees for ten cards $106.46 or $10.46 acard ================= To: , Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 09:21:03 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: "Matt Yudt" I was recently thinking about doing the same thing at some point, and feel exactly the same way as Sal. Especially with some of the big stars if theyare nice enough. Question =E2=93 I just bought a 57 Mantle, I think it would grade OK (4?) but it has a little writing just along the edge on the back. How much would that effect the grade =E2=93 would it suddenly go to =E2authentic=E2=99 with just any writing? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 1:59 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions I joined their gold club for 129 which included 10 submissions and about $15 return postage. And they have monthly specials. From an investor standpoint, I know it just increased the value of those cards (god knows why). And those are some of my biggest cards, so having them slabbed probably makes sense, even if I don't really believe in it. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/7/2017 9:56:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brightair@msn.com writes: Interesting, as one who has never gone down that road, what did this adventure Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > onbehalf of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions Thought I'd share my first venture into the "dark side" with my graded submissions that came back. SGC doesn't grade Milton Bradley's but that's what the Ryan is... The McCormick came back as a 4, was hoping for a 5... Item No.YearPublisherSetCard#Player(s)DescriptionGrade 11968Topps177NOLAN RYANROOKIE 21971O-Pee-Chee596MIKE JORGENSEN 31971O-Pee-Chee573ED KRANEPOOL 41971O-Pee-Chee751AL WEISHigh# 51971O-Pee-Chee687RON TAYLORHigh# 61968Topps400MIKE MCCORMICKWhite Team Letters 71952Bowman218WILLIE MAYSHigh# 81952Bowman101MICKEY MANTLE 91967Topps581TOM SEAVERROOKIE High# 101952Topps312JACKIE ROBINSONHigh#Altered Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 09:28:04 -0500 To: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: Jimi Thayer Your Mantle should grade a PSA 4 (MK)....assuming you sent to PSA. The (MK) refers to there being "a mark" on the card somewhere. Essentially, the value is usually considered to be about two grades down, or in your case, a PSA 2. This is of course, if it grades a PSA 4. If sent to SGC, I believethey would just grade it two grades down, so you would get an SGC 30, which is a 2, or "Good", by their measures. I hope this helps! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:21 AM, 'Matt Yudt' yudts5@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I was recently thinking about doing the same thing at some point, and feel exactly the same way as Sal. Especially with some of the big stars if they are nice enough. > Question =E2=93 I just bought a 57 Mantle, I think it would grade OK (4? ) but it has a little writing just along the edge on the back. How muchwould that effect the grade =E2=93 would it suddenly go to =E2authentic=E2=99 with just any writing? > Thanks > Matt > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 1:59 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions > I joined their gold club for 129 which included 10 submissions and about $15 return postage. And they have monthly specials. From an investor standpoint, I know it just increased the value of those cards (god knows why). And those are some of my biggest cards, so having them slabbed probably makessense, even if I don't really believe in it. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/7/2017 9:56:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brightair@msn.com > Sal, > Interesting, as one who has never gone down that road, what did this adventure > Richard D > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:44 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions > Thought I'd share my first venture into the "dark side" with my graded submissions that came back. SGC doesn't grade Milton Bradley's but that's what the Ryan is... The McCormick came back as a 4, was hoping for a 5... > Details > Item No.YearPublisherSetCard#Player(s)DescriptionGrade > 11968Topps177NOLAN RYANROOKIE40 > 21971O-Pee-Chee596MIKE JORGENSEN60 > 31971O-Pee-Chee573ED KRANEPOOL70 > 41971O-Pee-Chee751AL WEISHigh#60 > 51971O-Pee-Chee687RON TAYLORHigh#80 > 61968Topps400MIKE MCCORMICKWhite Team Letters40 > 71952Bowman218WILLIE MAYSHigh#20 > 81952Bowman101MICKEY MANTLE10 > 91967Topps581TOM SEAVERROOKIE High#20 > 101952Topps312JACKIE ROBINSONHigh#Altered > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:28:10 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: JAY TYSVER A lot of times they designate it as (MK) for marked. It does effect the value a bit. I've considered it as well. I have a couple of cards which may be PSA 9s or10s from 1963 and I would rather sell them and replace them with raw cardsfor the money I could get for them. I've also a T206 which might be PSA 6 or better. Would do the same thing on that. And the newest is I have the Tom Brady RC which jumped a cool $300-$400 overnight. It may grade out as a straight 10 and get up to 4 figures and that would be worth selling. Also, it probably would be wise to get the Rose and Seaver graded just to double check them although I prefer them raw. I have a few slabbed cards but mainly just to ensure they are authentic when I bought them. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Matt Yudt' yudts5@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:21 AM To: ChicoD1@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions I was recently thinking about doing the same thing at some point, and feel exactly the same way as Sal. Especially with some of the big stars if theyare nice enough. Question =96 I just bought a 57 Mantle, I think it would grade OK (4? ) butit has a little writing just along the edge on the back. How much would that effect the grade =96 would it suddenly go to =91authentic=92 with just any From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 1:59 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions I joined their gold club for 129 which included 10 submissions and about $15 return postage. And they have monthly specials. From an investor standpoint, I know it just increased the value of those cards (god knows why). And those are some of my biggest cards, so having them slabbed probably makes sense, even if I don't really believe in it. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/7/2017 9:56:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brightair@msn.com Interesting, as one who has never gone down that road, what did this adventure Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:44 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions Thought I'd share my first venture into the "dark side" with my graded submissions that came back. SGC doesn't grade Milton Bradley's but that's what the Ryan is... The McCormick came back as a 4, was hoping for a 5... Item No.YearPublisherSetCard#Player(s)DescriptionGrade 11968Topps177NOLAN RYANROOKIE40 21971O-Pee-Chee596MIKE JORGENSEN60 31971O-Pee-Chee573ED KRANEPOOL70 41971O-Pee-Chee751AL WEISHigh#60 51971O-Pee-Chee687RON TAYLORHigh#80 61968Topps400MIKE MCCORMICKWhite Team Letters40 71952Bowman218WILLIE MAYSHigh#20 81952Bowman101MICKEY MANTLE10 91967Topps581TOM SEAVERROOKIE High#20 101952Topps312JACKIE ROBINSONHigh#Altered Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 15:38:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: Aaron Shirley I'm not a fan of slabbed cards, I guess mostly because my stuff would come back graded "are you serious?" and I don't own many cards worth spending ten or more dollars just for a third party's opinion of their grade. I know they're poor, I don't need anyone else confirming it. And ten dollars sent to SGC is ten dollars not spent on buying more Hostess or Fleer or Look 'n See! Amirite, guyz?! But here's why I actually wrote the email: people here are saying things like, "It would help them sell, but I'm not selling." Not to suck all the funout of the room, but eventually we don't get to keep our stuff. In the long view, the point of having them professionally graded and authenticated isto make it easier for whoever comes after you. Others may want or need to sell them some day in the future when you're not in the picture. With all these slabbed cards, my (or your) wife or kids or SO don't have to hassle with the disreputable dealer about whether or not their Ruth or Wagner or Mantle is real, they don't have to haggle over what condition it is, they don't have to wonder what it's worth. And for that, I guess it's worth it, at least a little bit. Every once in a while, I tell my wife, half-jokingly, "when I die, THIS is the first box of cards to sell." And I'm typically holding one of two 2-rowboxes - either the 1951-56 Topps box, or the Non-Topps vintage box. And she knows a LOT of your names, and WILL be contacting you for help. T.J., Jimi, Spike, Guru, etc... your names are on the list. Of course, I'm "only" 42, so maybe we should be familiarizing ourselves with the younger guys in the group, like Nick, "The Kid" and Wes! So morbid... ================= Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:21:35 +0000 To: Aaron Shirley , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: Matthew Glidden As a follow-up to Aaron's note, how will they grade us when WE shuffle off to that final slab? PSA 1 (OC, MK) ...or maybe I should just shoot for AUTHENTIC. ;-) On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:38 AM Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm not a fan of slabbed cards, I guess mostly because my stuff would come > back graded "are you serious?" and I don't own many cards worth spending > ten or more dollars just for a third party's opinion of their grade. I know > they're poor, I don't need anyone else confirming it. And ten dollars sent > to SGC is ten dollars not spent on buying more Hostess or Fleer or Look 'n > See! Amirite, guyz?! > But here's why I actually wrote the email: people here are saying things > like, "It would help them sell, but I'm not selling." Not to suck all the > fun out of the room, but eventually we don't get to keep our stuff. In the > long view, the point of having them professionally graded and authenticated > is to make it easier for whoever comes after you. Others may want or need > to sell them some day in the future when you're not in the picture. With > all these slabbed cards, my (or your) wife or kids or SO don't have to > hassle with the disreputable dealer about whether or not their Ruth or > Wagner or Mantle is real, they don't have to haggle over what condition it > is, they don't have to wonder what it's worth. And for that, I guess it's > worth it, at least a little bit. > Every once in a while, I tell my wife, half-jokingly, "when I die, THIS is > the first box of cards to sell." And I'm typically holding one of two 2-row > boxes - either the 1951-56 Topps box, or the Non-Topps vintage box. And she > knows a LOT of your names, and WILL be contacting you for help. T.J., Jimi, > Spike, Guru, etc... your names are on the list. Of course, I'm "only" 42, > so maybe we should be familiarizing ourselves with the younger guys in the > group, like Nick, "The Kid" and Wes! > So morbid... > Aaron ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 08:23:56 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: "Grant Rainsley" I don=E2=99t have an answer to that, other than it will be with a permanent marker pen=E2=A6.. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February 8, 2017 8:22 AM To: Aaron Shirley; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions As a follow-up to Aaron's note, how will they grade us when WE shuffle off to that final slab? PSA 1 (OC, MK) ...or maybe I should just shoot for AUTHENTIC. ;-) On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:38 AM Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I'm not a fan of slabbed cards, I guess mostly because my stuff would come back graded "are you serious?" and I don't own many cards worth spending ten or more dollars just for a third party's opinion of their grade. I know they're poor, I don't need anyone else confirming it. And ten dollars sent to SGC is ten dollars not spent on buying more Hostess or Fleer or Look 'n See! Amirite, guyz?! But here's why I actually wrote the email: people here are saying things like, "It would help them sell, but I'm not selling." Not to suck all the funout of the room, but eventually we don't get to keep our stuff. In the long view, the point of having them professionally graded and authenticated isto make it easier for whoever comes after you. Others may want or need to sell them some day in the future when you're not in the picture. With all these slabbed cards, my (or your) wife or kids or SO don't have to hassle with the disreputable dealer about whether or not their Ruth or Wagner or Mantle is real, they don't have to haggle over what condition it is, they don't have to wonder what it's worth. And for that, I guess it's worth it, at least a little bit. Every once in a while, I tell my wife, half-jokingly, "when I die, THIS is the first box of cards to sell." And I'm typically holding one of two 2-rowboxes - either the 1951-56 Topps box, or the Non-Topps vintage box. And she knows a LOT of your names, and WILL be contacting you for help. T.J., Jimi, Spike, Guru, etc... your names are on the list. Of course, I'm "only" 42, so maybe we should be familiarizing ourselves with the younger guys in the group, like Nick, "The Kid" and Wes! So morbid... ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:37:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: Aaron Shirley I know some are fond of cracking things out of the slabs. Please don't do that to me. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:41:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: Aaron Shirley And I would DEFINITELY be off-center. ALTERED for sure. Hopefully not MISCUT. Getting the heebie-jeebies. ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 11:56:31 -0500 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: Joel Freedman is one not graded if they are in an urn? this would be slightly altered. boxed in would be better, we might get a grade for that condition! On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > And I would DEFINITELY be off-center. > ALTERED for sure. > Hopefully not MISCUT. > Getting the heebie-jeebies. > Aaron ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 17:25:41 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1956 Topps checklists for trade From: Rob Bessette I have an extra one of each. Both are marked. Would love to trade them for 57 Topps checklists that I need or 57 Topps contest Here are the ones I need... 1957 TOPPSChecklist 2/3(Bazooka & Blony), Checklist 3/4(Bazooka& Blony), Checklist 4/5(Bazooka & Blony), Contest Card May 4th, Contest Card June 22nd, Contest Card July 19th ================= To: Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 12:34:38 -0500 Subject: dime box, doller box From: "Bob Donaldson" Often at shows I see a dollar box, and sometimes dime boxes. The question is, when are these good deals? One man's opinion (which could change tomorrow). I'm interested to hear other opinions. Dime Boxes As I have all Topps commons from 67 on, I'm usually picking up cards for the dup box. Generally, anything 68 or earlier I'll pick up. If I were working on a set, I'd probably go 75 and earlier for wants. Dollar Boxes 53 Topps/Bowman and earlier I'll likely pick up for my dup box. 57 and earlier, I'll pick up if on my wantlist. Also late 60s/early 70s oddballs (Kelloggs FB, Topps inserts) that are on my lists What do you think? ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:26:56 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Card Collecting For Dummies From: EEK There are are a couple of things that lead me to believe that I am simply impersonating a knowledgeable card collector. Firstly I have an irreparable disability when it comes to accurately grading cards. Secondly this innate deficit contributes to my incomprehension regarding determining the dollar value of a particular card. Is there a standard percentage of reduction or discount when using the SCD that can reasonably determine the actual fair value of a card? Does that standard vary with regard to stars, high numbers and / or scarcity? The primary reason for my inquiry is not a major issue when purchasing cards from dealers. I have frequently been saved from myself by hanging out at card shows with FOOT members such as Mike Rich, Mark Talbot and Ron Perry. Left to my own devices I have frequently been a victim of the old P.T. Barnum adage. I have no such qualms when dealing with fellow OBCers as I trust their fairness when negotiating a trade or in considering dealer scum offers. Conversely I am often reluctant to propose trades, for fear of offendinga fellow OBCer with high balling on my end. Some of you may say "is there a method to this guys Rambling madness?" Yes,in fact there is. I said all that to say this. As many of you old timers know, I was reintroduced to card collecting by my son back in 1998 and fortunately discovered OBC a few years later. Dustin and I established a missionof completing the Topps Tigers Team base sets from 1952 through present. In drawing up my will and wishes for distribution of my worldly possessions,I have bequeathed my Tigers collection to Dustin's Daughter upon my demiseof which I am postponing until my very last breath some time in the very distant future. How some ever, many of my contemporaries have gone before meso I feel a certain urgency regarding completing my Tiger set mission for Shalynn. I have a few high dollar vintage cards I would like to obtain prior to my 71st revolution around the sun coming up in September. In appreciation to OBC I would like to fill the holes in my vintage Tigers binders via mutually beneficial trades with y'all! Please be aware that I am not looking for RAOKs or nefarious OBC schemes to fill the aforementioned cardboard. I know the well intention-ed tricks used within the group. Please no mass crusade like appealing to group members via means that preclude my knowledge. Please no abnormal purchases of a card you don't want or need just to work a trade. It is important to me that I complete my mission via trade. So, if you have a vintage Tiger card I am seeking in your possession that you are willing to trade for a like value card(s) that you need please let me know. As might be expected my highest priority is the dreaded hi 52T #354 Fred Hatfield! Anyone have one they would like to trade. I prefer low Good condition! If you got this far, thanks for your time. Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:37:33 -0500 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box From: Jake Brewer As far as dime boxes for vintage- here at the shows in NC/SC I've never seen one. I don't frequent the Raleigh show, so maybe I should to find this elusive "Vintage Dime Box". As far as $1 boxes- I'd say '57T and earlier is a good buy out of a dollar box. -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:34 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Often at shows I see a dollar box, and sometimes dime boxes. The question is, when are these good deals? One man=E2=99s opinion (which could change tomorrow). I=E2=99m interested to hear other opinions. > Dime Boxes > As I have all Topps commons from 67 on, I=E2=99m usually picking up cards for the dup box. Generally, anything 68 or earlier I=E2=99ll pick up. If I were working on a set, I=E2=99d probably go 75 and earlier for wants. > Dollar Boxes > 53 Topps/Bowman and earlier I=E2=99ll likely pick up for my dup box. 57 and earlier, I=E2=99ll pick up if on my wantlist. Also late 60s/early 70s oddballs (Kelloggs FB, Topps inserts) that are on my lists > What do you think? > Bob ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:39:36 -0500 To: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card Collecting For Dummies From: Joel Freedman try this http://www.psacard.com/resources/gradingstandards/ On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:26 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > There are are a couple of things that lead me to believe that I am simply > impersonating a knowledgeable card collector. Firstly I have an > irreparable disability when it comes to accurately grading cards. Secondly > this innate deficit contributes to my incomprehension regarding determining > the dollar value of a particular card. Is there a standard percentage of > reduction or discount when using the SCD that can reasonably determine the > actual fair value of a card? Does that standard vary with regard to stars, > high numbers and / or scarcity? > The primary reason for my inquiry is not a major issue when purchasing > cards from dealers. I have frequently been saved from myself by hanging out > at card shows with FOOT members such as Mike Rich, Mark Talbot and Ron > Perry. Left to my own devices I have frequently been a victim of the old > P.T. Barnum adage. I have no such qualms when dealing with fellow OBCers as > I trust their fairness when negotiating a trade or in considering dealer > scum offers. Conversely I am often reluctant to propose trades, for fear of > offending a fellow OBCer with high balling on my end. > Some of you may say "is there a method to this guys Rambling madness?" > Yes, in fact there is. I said all that to say this. As many of you old > timers know, I was reintroduced to card collecting by my son back in 1998 > and fortunately discovered OBC a few years later. Dustin and I > established a mission of completing the Topps Tigers Team base sets from > 1952 through present. In drawing up my will and wishes for distribution of > my worldly possessions, I have bequeathed my Tigers collection to Dustin's > Daughter upon my demise of which I am postponing until my very last breath > some time in the very distant future. How some ever, many of my > contemporaries have gone before me so I feel a certain urgency regarding > completing my Tiger set mission for Shalynn. I have a few high dollar > vintage cards I would like to obtain prior to my 71st revolution around the > sun coming up in September. In appreciation to OBC I would like to fill the > holes in my vintage Tigers binders via mutually beneficial trades with > y'all! Please be aware that I am not looking for RAOKs or nefarious OBC > schemes to fill the aforementioned cardboard. I know the well intention-ed > tricks used within the group. Please no mass crusade like appealing to > group members via means that preclude my knowledge. Please no abnormal > purchases of a card you don't want or need just to work a trade. It is > important to me that I complete my mission via trade. So, if you have a > vintage Tiger card I am seeking in your possession that you are willing to > trade for a like value card(s) that you need please let me know. > As might be expected my highest priority is the dreaded hi 52T #354 Fred > Hatfield! Anyone have one they would like to trade. I prefer low Good > condition! If you got this far, thanks for your time. > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:26:07 -0500 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box From: Joshua Levine No dime boxes here really. no shows here really for that matter...but thereis a store i get to about 2-3 times a year that has s dime box (12 for a $1!). I usually check it (it is easy since the old cardboard really stands out in the 3200 count box among the newer shiny stuff). usually he dumps a handful of off condition mid60s to mid 70s stuff in there including some minor stars and every now and then a minor HOFer. Last time I was there I spent a dollar and got a 78 seaver, 3 '67s commons, 1 '66 common, a '80 Reggie,and five '72 commons. All dupes box material. At shows, I always check the bargain boxes...my favorite is the $1 or $2 boxes at the large tables that are decidedly newer material. Usually this is where they dump stuff they either don't really handle or have no clue about. Several years back, I picked a Witmor candy card out of a dollar box. Don't know what that is? Look it up, it is a rare back variation of an early candy card. RARE! I have also found great oddball, food, and rare stuff there. People who have attended shows with me know I love to hunt and check every table, even ones that look like they would not interest me or OBC at all. At the very last show I was at about 3-4 years ago, there was a guy thereselling mostly football, basketball, and hockey and mostly newer stuff andunopened newer stuff. I asked if he had any baseball and he pulled a smallbox from under the table and explained he usually just buys the other sports but every now and then he will buy a collection of stuff and a baseball card or two will slip in. He said he usually has these as his dollar box. Sold me the box for $20...contained nearly 75 cards from '55 through '77... I love dollar boxes! -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 9:34 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box Often at shows I see a dollar box, and sometimes dime boxes. The question is, when are these good deals? One man=E2=99s opinion (which could change tomorrow). I=E2=99m interested to hear other opinions. Dime Boxes As I have all Topps commons from 67 on, I=E2=99m usually picking up cards for the dup box. Generally, anything 68 or earlier I=E2=99ll pick up.If I were working on a set, I=E2=99d probably go 75 and earlier for wants. Dollar Boxes 53 Topps/Bowman and earlier I=E2=99ll likely pick up for my dup box. 57and earlier, I=E2=99ll pick up if on my wantlist. Also late 60s/early 70s oddballs (Kelloggs FB, Topps inserts) that are on my lists < o:p> What do you think? ================= Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 19:21:34 +0000 To: Bob Donaldson , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box From: Matthew Glidden 10c boxes: I've bought "most of an oddball set" for 10c each, knowing it'll leave just a handful left to buy. Fleer World Series. 1970/71/72 high numbers for the dupes box. Folded 1967/68 posters sometimes show up here. $1 boxes: Oddball stars. Lower-profile HOF rookies or 60s stars. 50/15/52 Bowman, depending on the condition. Card show guests in nice shape for signing. On good days, beat-up 52 Topps! On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Often at shows I see a dollar box, and sometimes dime boxes. The question > is, when are these good deals? One man=E2=99s opinion (which could change > tomorrow). I=E2=99m interested to hear other opinions. > Dime Boxes > As I have all Topps commons from 67 on, I=E2=99m usually picking up cards > the dup box. Generally, anything 68 or earlier I=E2=99ll pick up. IfI > working on a set, I=E2=99d probably go 75 and earlier for wants. > Dollar Boxes > 53 Topps/Bowman and earlier I=E2=99ll likely pick up for my dup box. 57 > earlier, I=E2=99ll pick up if on my wantlist. Also late 60s/early 70soddballs > (Kelloggs FB, Topps inserts) that are on my lists > What do you think? > Bob ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 14:37:04 -0500 To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obcbobd@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box From: mikesportsfan@aol.com WOW. We have what I think are some decent bargain bins at shows around here, but not as good as Spike describes. We will find some 60s BB & FB in VGin dime boxes on occasion. $1 boxes regularly have 1954 on up in them in VG. Last month I dealer scummed about 85 VG 1954-1956 Topps BB with the Kid that I got for $1 ea locally. VG 1970-1972 Topps BB hi #s in there as well. $2 boxes have some VG 1959-1960 Topps BB hi #s. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Bob Donaldson ; obc-ramblings Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 2:29 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box 10c boxes: I've bought "most of an oddball set" for 10c each, knowing it'll leave justa handful left to buy. Fleer World Series. 1970/71/72 high numbers for thedupes box. Folded 1967/68 posters sometimes show up here. $1 boxes: Oddball stars. Lower-profile HOF rookies or 60s stars. 50/15/52 Bowman, depending on the condition. Card show guests in nice shape for signing. On good days, beat-up 52 Topps! On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Often at shows I see a dollar box, and sometimes dime boxes. The question is, when are these good deals? One man=E2=99s opinion (which could change tomorrow). I=E2=99m interested to hear other opinions. Dime Boxes As I have all Topps commons from 67 on, I=E2=99m usually picking up cards for the dup box. Generally, anything 68 or earlier I=E2=99ll pick up.If I were working on a set, I=E2=99d probably go 75 and earlier for wants. Dollar Boxes 53 Topps/Bowman and earlier I=E2=99ll likely pick up for my dup box. 57and earlier, I=E2=99ll pick up if on my wantlist. Also late 60s/early 70s oddballs (Kelloggs FB, Topps inserts) that are on my lists What do you think? ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Joshua Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:52:00 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box From: Taylor Schock ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 20:17:57 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box From: Mac Wubben Do people need $1 cards from 54-57? The huggins & scott shop usually has piles available at this range...if anybody wants some, let me know and I'll head over (always looking for an excuse to head over). From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 2:37 PM To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com; obcbobd@gmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box WOW. We have what I think are some decent bargain bins at shows around here, but not as good as Spike describes. We will find some 60s BB & FB in VGin dime boxes on occasion. $1 boxes regularly have 1954 on up in them in VG. Last month I dealer scummed about 85 VG 1954-1956 Topps BB with the Kid that I got for $1 ea locally. VG 1970-1972 Topps BB hi #s in there as well. $2 boxes have some VG 1959-1960 Topps BB hi #s. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Bob Donaldson ; obc-ramblings Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 2:29 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] dime box, doller box 10c boxes: I've bought "most of an oddball set" for 10c each, knowing it'll leave justa handful left to buy. Fleer World Series. 1970/71/72 high numbers for thedupes box. Folded 1967/68 posters sometimes show up here. $1 boxes: Oddball stars. Lower-profile HOF rookies or 60s stars. 50/15/52 Bowman, depending on the condition. Card show guests in nice shape for signing. On good days, beat-up 52 Topps! On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:34 PM 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Often at shows I see a dollar box, and sometimes dime boxes. The question is, when are these good deals? One man=92s opinion (which could change tomorrow). I=92m interested to hear other opinions. Dime Boxes As I have all Topps commons from 67 on, I=92m usually picking up cards for the dup box. Generally, anything 68 or earlier I=92ll pick up. If I were working on a set, I=92d probably go 75 and earlier for wants. Dollar Boxes 53 Topps/Bowman and earlier I=92ll likely pick up for my dup box. 57 and earlier, I=92ll pick up if on my wantlist. Also late 60s/early 70s oddballs(Kelloggs FB, Topps inserts) that are on my lists What do you think? ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 20:21:03 +0000 Subject: DC area get together---welcoming Steve Rittenberg back to the area From: Mac Wubben The esteemed Mr. Rittenberg will be traveling back to the DC area this month. Good reason for a card swap I say. Tentative details are for 1pm on Sat Feb 25th...probably at my place. If you're interested in joining the fun, let me know and I'll add you to the distribution list. ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: Just started 1956 Topps set From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, I just put together a list for the 1956 Topps set in any condition. Love this set! Let me know if you have any for trade below. Thanks! 1956 Topps226 more to go out of 540 58.1% completeLAST UPDATED: 2/8/2017! WHITE:1, 2, 5, 8, 10, 12, 13, 15, 19, 20, 23, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 49, 53, 54, 57, 64, 65, 70, 71, 74, 75, 76, 79, 85a (centered), 89, 97, 100b (name left), 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 113, 115, 117,118, 120, 121, 122, 123, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136,137, 138, 139, 140, 142, 143, 145, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154,155, 156, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 172,174, 175, 176, 178, 179, 180 GRAY:1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11a (centered), 11b (name left), 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 20, 22, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 35, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45,47, 49, 50, 52, 55, 56, 58, 59, 63, 66, 69, 70, 72b (name left), 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85b (name left), 86, 88, 92, 93, 94, 98, 99, 101, 107, 108, 110, 111, 113, 115, 118, 122, 130, 135, 138, 139, 140, 142, 146, 149, 150, 153, 158, 164, 165, 166, 172, 175, 176,184, 187, 189, 193, 194, 195, 200, 201, 208, 221, 222, 223, 225, 230, 234, 239, 240, 249, 250, 251, 254, 258, 260, 263, 264, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 276, 279, 282, 288, 292, 293, 307, 308, 311, 318, 330, 332, 333, CL 2/4 ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 19:46:36 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: superbowl hit update! From: Sean McGowan We just blew by 7,000 with a quick 294 hits in the mail already! Check the numbers at http://sean-mcgowan.org/pool-17.htm Go OBC! ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 02:16:44 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Original Photos From: Patrick Prickett Since I didn't get any responses to my email on original 1952 Topps photos, thought I'd whet the appetite and give a couple examples for people. ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 21:45:26 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My First Graded Submissions From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I wonder if we can come back as a "reprint"? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/8/2017 11:21:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: As a follow-up to Aaron's note, how will they grade us when WE shuffle off to that final slab? PSA 1 (OC, MK) ...or maybe I should just shoot for AUTHENTIC. ;-) On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:38 AM Aaron Shirley _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I'm not a fan of slabbed cards, I guess mostly because my stuff would come back graded "are you serious?" and I don't own many cards worth spending ten or more dollars just for a third party's opinion of their grade. I know they're poor, I don't need anyone else confirming it. And ten dollars sent to SGC is ten dollars not spent on buying more Hostess or Fleer or Look 'n See! Amirite, guyz?! But here's why I actually wrote the email: people here are saying things like, "It would help them sell, but I'm not selling." Not to suck all the fun out of the room, but eventually we don't get to keep our stuff. In the long view, the point of having them professionally graded and authenticated is to make it easier for whoever comes after you. Others may want or need to sell them some day in the future when you're not in the picture. With all these slabbed cards, my (or your) wife or kids or SO don't have to hassle with the disreputable dealer about whether or not their Ruth or Wagner or Mantle is real, they don't have to haggle over what condition it is, they don't have to wonder what it's worth. And for that, I guess it's worth it,at least a little bit. Every once in a while, I tell my wife, half-jokingly, "when I die, THIS is the first box of cards to sell." And I'm typically holding one of two 2-row boxes - either the 1951-56 Topps box, or the Non-Topps vintage box. And she knows a LOT of your names, and WILL be contacting you for help. T.J., Jimi, Spike, Guru, etc... your names are on the list. Of course, I'm "only" 42, so maybe we should be familiarizing ourselves with the younger guys in the group, like Nick, "The Kid" and Wes! So morbid... ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:02:26 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: My First Graded Submissions From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I haggled with this for months. Seems depending on the "expected" value (<250, <500) makes the cost change. I did look at joining as opposed to sending invidually. Came up about $15 difference. I figure there are still a cards I should have graded, so I think I'll make it up with the monthly specials (maybe 7/8 per card + whatever other incentive they have?). The Reese didn't make the cut, I didn't want to look like a rookie and give them something to laugh about at the SGC headquarters (did you SEE that Pee Wee?). Only thing I was disappointed at was the Robinson. They didn't slab it, came back "altered" with a sticker in a soft top loader. I have to ask them about that card. I still like to touch and smell, but I guess the way the hobby is going, it's almost become important to have them checked for authenticity. The OPCs were really nice, and as high numbers, I wanted to keep them that way. I probably doubled what I paid for those by getting them slabbed. The Mantle was for my own piece of mind, same with Mays. They don't grade as MB's but they may in the future (I can get Ryan reslabbed for $5 if they do). The Seaver I got wayyyyyyyyyy back in the early 70s. The McCormick I got as a kid myself (Ken wanted to give me Mantles for it a long time ago LOL). Those two are freebies, as they cost me about nothing. Problem is, the SGC holder seems a little wider than a PSA, so they don't exactly fit in the "shoe boxes" for graded cards. Somewhere along the line, this will probably pay off, but I won't be around to see it LOL... Next up, Namath rookie and digging through sets for other biggies. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/8/2017 7:56:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: What does it cost? I recently sent off a ten card lot to SGC for grading. I am not a member of their =E2=9CGold Club=E2=9D so I am not offered all of the special pricing that the members get. In todays =E2=9Cmarket=E2=9D, when an expensive (and needed) =E2=9Craw=E2=9D card shows up on eBay, one of the first things you must ask yourself is =E2=9Cwhy is this not slabbed=E2=9D. I purchased a =E2=9Craw=E2=9D 1949 Bowman baseball #50 Jackie Robinson RC via eBay at a fair price. As soon as the card arrived, I shipped it right off to SGC, along with a few others. Twenty working days later, the results appeared on the SGC website, and confirmed that the 1949 Bowman Jackie Robinson was indeed legit and received a =E2=9C10=E2=9D grade. As soon as I saw these results I left positive feedback for the seller. If the card would have been deemed a fake, I would have requested my money back from the seller following eBay So what did it cost for a non member of the =E2=9CGold Club=E2=9D? USPS Shipping, Insurance, Signature to SGC $10.46 Non-Member fee to grade 10 cards ($8 each) $80 USPS shipping and insurance back to me $16 Total including shipping and grading fees for ten cards $106.46 or $10.46 a card ================= Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 22:31:13 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: One of the great books From: ChicoD1@aol.com I got an Amazon gift card for Christmas and realized that I never owned the great baseball card flipping and trading book. So I got one of those in real nice shape along with the non-sports guide #3. The non-sports kinda pissed me off, as it's in alphabetical order and the pictures really get in the way of the checklists. I'd rather have it go by year. The Flipping book is really everything you guys have talked about over the years. Just thumbing through it, I find it pretty entertaining. I know a few of you guys have made this a "sub-set", collect every card in the book (some even go for the cover cards). It actually looks pretty do-able, as I saw a Williams and Yogi cards as probably the most costly. Has anyone sat down and made a checklist for this? Have any of you guys completed that as a set? (Aaron is already calculating this out and adding to his title of King of Subsets lol- next year will be Flipping February!). I am also contemplating yet another project. I have been collecting links of reference sites I/we have used over the years. (Tradingcarddb.com, Fleer sticker project, etc.). Do any of you have a favorite link that you have used to obtain info for your collection? I have found a great link for the T59 Flags of all Nations, which I have shared on occasion, among others. I am thinking of putting these together and maybe get them sorted and added to the library. If you have any favorites or some that really give some great information, pass them along, let's see if this is something that can help Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 05:08:37 +0000 Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] One of the great books From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 06:35:06 -0500 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] One of the great books From: Mike Glasser My go to sites for checklists - I've been creating lots of them lately - are the site you mention, Wayne Delia's site Jeff Allenders list of checklists (choose all checklists then search the page for keywords,http://nslists.com/jachlist.htm) and www.skytamer.com (go to the card section, and The Vintage Card Reference (https://vintagecards.wordpress.com/). I've stumbled on a few others by doing some google searches but those are the best in my opinion. I love the idea of having these all listed in one place on our server. Great Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 12:08 am Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] One of the great books Meant to "reply all" on this... I actually did make a list for that book. Well... I got maybe half way through the book and misplaced it so the list was never finished. But if anyonewould like said list, I will find it, finish it, and present the list for your enjoyment, for your entertainment, for your information, for your amusement! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2017, at 9:31 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I got an Amazon gift card for Christmas and realized that I never owned thegreat baseball card flipping and trading book. So I got one of those in real nice shape along with the non-sports guide #3. The non-sports kinda pissed me off, as it's in alphabetical order and the pictures really get in theway of the checklists. I'd rather have it go by year. The Flipping book is really everything you guys have talked about over the years. Just thumbing through it, I find it pretty entertaining. I know a few of you guys have made this a "sub-set", collect every card in the book (some even go for the cover cards). It actually looks pretty do-able, as I saw a Williams and Yogi cards as probably the most costly. Has anyone sat down and made a checklist for this? Have any of you guys completed that as a set? (Aaron is already calculating this out and adding to his title of King of Subsets lol- next year will be Flipping February!). I am also contemplating yet another project. I have been collecting links of reference sites I/we have used over the years. (Tradingcarddb.com, Fleer sticker project, etc.). Do any of you have a favorite link that you have used to obtain info for your collection? I have found a great link for the T59 Flags of all Nations, which I have shared on occasion, among others. I amthinking of putting these together and maybe get them sorted and added to the library. If you have any favorites or some that really give some great information, pass them along, let's see if this is something that can help everyone. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 08:45:52 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] DC area get together---welcoming Steve From: joe8941@aol.com Already on the calendar, I'm in. Joe Adriance Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 Mac Wubben obcmac The esteemed Mr. Rittenberg will be traveling back to the DC area this month. Good reason for a card swap I say. Tentative details are for 1pm on Sat Feb 25th...probably at my place. 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No limit on how many lots you request, but you can only win one lot. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and draw the winner out of my vintage (maroon colored) OBC hat. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST, with =E2=9CWauction Winners=E2=9Dannounced. The =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D catalog will be published on the OBC Facebook 1. 1961 Topps baseball #43 NL Home Run Leaders with Banks, Aaron, and Mathews in VG condition. 2. 1962 Topps baseball #595 Rookie Parade =E2=9CInfielders=E2=9D VG on every set collectors wantlist! 3. 1957 Topps baseball #18 Don Drysdale RC Brooklyn Dodgers card is complete but top 1/4 of card numerous creases bite marks and dents. 4. 1961 Fleer =E2=9CBaseball Greats=E2=9D #1 with Baker, Cobb, and Wheat. Help celebrate OBCs =E2=9CFleer February=E2=9D! Number one card in the set G-VG condition with a neatly marked checklist on the back. 5. 1957 Topps baseball #125 Al Kaline VG card BUT bottom corners and bottomedge damage. Presents well! 6. 1964 Topps baseball #7 NL Batting Leaders with Clemente and Aaron. G-VG pretty 7. 1969 Topps baseball #50 Bob (Roberto) Clemente nicely centered with rounded corners. Some writing on the front that is scribbled out. It looks likethe words =E2=9CStockton=E2=9D and =E2=9CPortland=E2=9D have been inked on the front and then crossed out? Card is complete. 8. 1965 Topps baseball #3 AL Home Run Leaders with Mantle. Complete card inG condition with Mantle. Did I mention this card pictures Mantle? 9. 1952 Bowman baseball #252 Frank Crosetti NY Yankees G condition card minor scuffing on front and off centered 90-10 L-R. Last card in set! 17 time World Series champ as both player and coach! Not a bad looking card! 10. 1969-1970 Topps basketball starter set of 30 (THIRTY!) different cards 30% of the whole set (99). All commons Darrall Imhoff I remember him, Mel Counts, and Bob Boozer included. G-VG some worse NONE better LOL! Six of these cards have the team logo from the =E2=9971-=E2=9972 Topps =E2=9CTrio=E2=9D set attached which is a great =E2=9Cbonus=E2=9D LOL.=E2=9CTall-Boy=E2=9D fever, CATCH IT! ================= Date: 09 Feb 2017 15:11:45 +0000 To: Subject: Ballpark Chasers meet up From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 09 Feb 2017 15:28:02 +0000 To: Subject: If you are thinking of making a road trip From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 09:57:10 -0600 To: JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip [1 Attachment] From: OBC Nick P Ok, that's really cool. Nick Pelletier > On Feb 9, 2017, at 9:28 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] > After trying to hit all the wantlists I had a decent spreadsheet. > From that spreadsheet I had everyone's addresses. That allowed me to makeeasy labels to mail out so many envelopes instead of having to hand address them all. > As a result, I was playing around to see if I can map where all of the OBCers live on a US Map (other countries too). > I found an easy way to do it. > If you are planning to take a road trip to visit other OBCers, this maps out an easy course. > First go to this site > https://www.mapcustomizer.com/# > Then hit bulk entry on the right of the screen. > Paste the names and addresses from the text file named "Map" which is attached. > Voila- you have a map showing where all of the OBCers are. ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 11:19:10 -0500 To: nachobcards@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip From: mikesportsfan@aol.com If I am reading this correctly, I visited/met up with 100% of the OBCers inNV, TX and LA and a majority in WA and FL, among others on my trip last year. I never realized how many we have in the MN area. I do not recall hearing about any get togethers there. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: JTysver1 Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:57 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip Ok, that's really cool. Nick Pelletier On Feb 9, 2017, at 9:28 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] After trying to hit all the wantlists I had a decent spreadsheet. From that spreadsheet I had everyone's addresses. That allowed me to make easy labels to mail out so many envelopes instead of having to hand address them As a result, I was playing around to see if I can map where all of the OBCers live on a US Map (other countries too). I found an easy way to do it. If you are planning to take a road trip to visit other OBCers, this maps out an easy course. First go to this site https://www.mapcustomizer.com/# Then hit bulk entry on the right of the screen. Paste the names and addresses from the text file named "Map" which is attached. Voila- you have a map showing where all of the OBCers are. ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:03:10 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Possibly unidentified incoming for a few OBCers... From: Wayne Delia If your last name is among Shirley, Glidden, Hutchinson, Smart, or Glasser, you may be getting a puffy or envelope with a Poughkeepsie postmark very soon, but possibly no return address. I used a couple of return-address labels that were a few years old and they didn't seem to stick too well. But the "WMD" in the inside note will be a dead giveaway. ================= To: Wayne Delia , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:11:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Possibly unidentified incoming for a few From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: Wayne Delia , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Possibly unidentified incoming for a few From: JAY TYSVER Weapon of Mass Delivery Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 11:11 AM To: Wayne Delia; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Possibly unidentified incoming for a few OBCers... Want More Details? We Miss Donruss? Thanks Wayne Muchacho Delia! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > If your last name is among Shirley, Glidden, Hutchinson, Smart, or Glasser,you may be getting a puffy or envelope with a Poughkeepsie postmark very soon, but possibly no return address. I used a couple of return-address labels that were a few years old and they didn't seem to stick too well. But the "WMD" in the inside note will be a dead giveaway. ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 12:29:25 -0600 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip From: OBC Nick P I did not realize there were so many in Minnesota. I only knew of myself plus two more. Tom Elliott about an hour and a half north and Ray luurs about 45 minutes north of me. Nick Pelletier > On Feb 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > If I am reading this correctly, I visited/met up with 100% of the OBCers in NV, TX and LA and a majority in WA and FL, among others on my trip last year. > I never realized how many we have in the MN area. I do not recall hearing about any get togethers there. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: JTysver1 > Cc: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:57 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip > Ok, that's really cool. > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > On Feb 9, 2017, at 9:28 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > After trying to hit all the wantlists I had a decent spreadsheet. > From that spreadsheet I had everyone's addresses. That allowed me to makeeasy labels to mail out so many envelopes instead of having to hand address them all. > As a result, I was playing around to see if I can map where all of the OBCers live on a US Map (other countries too). > I found an easy way to do it. > If you are planning to take a road trip to visit other OBCers, this maps out an easy course. > First go to this site > https://www.mapcustomizer.com/# > Then hit bulk entry on the right of the screen. > Paste the names and addresses from the text file named "Map" which is attached. > Voila- you have a map showing where all of the OBCers are. ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:55:56 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Thursday, February 9, 2017, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I did not realize there were so many in Minnesota. I only knew of myself plus two more. Tom Elliott about an hour and a half north and Ray luurs about 45 minutes north of me. Nick Pelletier On Feb 9, 2017, at 10:19 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] If I am reading this correctly, I visited/met up with 100% of the OBCers inNV, TX and LA and a majority in WA and FL, among others on my trip last year. I never realized how many we have in the MN area. I do not recall hearing about any get togethers there. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: JTysver1 Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 10:57 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] If you are thinking of making a road trip Ok, that's really cool. Nick Pelletier On Feb 9, 2017, at 9:28 AM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] After trying to hit all the wantlists I had a decent spreadsheet. From that spreadsheet I had everyone's addresses. That allowed me to make easy labels to mail out so many envelopes instead of having to hand address them As a result, I was playing around to see if I can map where all of the OBCers live on a US Map (other countries too). I found an easy way to do it. If you are planning to take a road trip to visit other OBCers, this maps out an easy course. First go to this site https://www.mapcustomizer.com/# Then hit bulk entry on the right of the screen. Paste the names and addresses from the text file named "Map" which is attached. Voila- you have a map showing where all of the OBCers are. ================= Date: 09 Feb 2017 21:31:37 +0000 To: Subject: 1974 Topps Lerrin LaGrow From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 22:31:31 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Wants , Subject: Baseball Register Sporting News Books Available From: Dan Angland Hey guys I am doing some organizing downstairs because of the blizzard and came across a stack of Baseball Register Sporting News books.If you want any or all, let me know.Please include your address. Thanks, Dan Angland 1970 Mets Tom Seaver front Mays on the back 1971 Giants Willie Mays front Yaz on the back 1973 White Sox Wilber Wood front Kaline on the back 1974 Reds Pete Rose front Stargell on the back 1976 Orioles Palmer on the front Aaron on the back 1978 Twins Carew on the front Rose on the back 1979 Yankees Guidry on the front Vida Blue on back 1981 Royals Brett on the front and Steve Stone on back ================= Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:37:02 +0000 To: Aaron Shirley , JAY TYSVER , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Possibly unidentified incoming for a few OBCers... From: Matthew Glidden Thanks! And cast my vote for Want More Donuts On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:34 PM JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Weapon of Mass Delivery > Jay Tysver > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 11:11 AM > *To:* Wayne Delia; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Possibly unidentified incoming for a few > OBCers... > WMD? > Want More Details? > We Miss Donruss? > Haha > Thanks Wayne Muchacho Delia! > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:05 AM, Wayne Delia wayne.m.delia@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If your last name is among Shirley, Glidden, Hutchinson, Smart, or > Glasser, you may be getting a puffy or envelope with a Poughkeepsie > postmark very soon, but possibly no return address. I used a couple of > return-address labels that were a few years old and they didn't seem to > stick too well. But the "WMD" in the inside note will be a dead giveaway. > Best, > WMD ================= To: Joel Freedman , EEK Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:21:18 -0600 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card Collecting For Dummies From: Yaz I was interested in how PSA did their grading so that link was pretty interesting. I have been grading my own cards since the mid 80s and collecting the data on my computer(s) since then. I always used the grading standards that were originally formulated in Baseball Cards Magazine in 1981. They were used by the SCD standard catalog at least up until the latest edition that I own, the ninth from year 2000. They differ from the PSA in form by not having Gem-Mint or Ex-Mint catagories, making Mint the top grade. In between the Mint, NM, EX, VG, Good, Fair and Poor categories are 'tweeners' such as VG-EX and NM-Mint. In The Sport Americana Baseball Card Price Guide, Beckett and Eckes' book from the late 70's, (mine is 4th printing, 1979), They have a scale similar to the BCM/SCD version but do not have the Near Mint category except as a 'tweener' between Mint and Ex. Just to get a little perspective on the differences, with the extra categories on top, the PSA tends to accept a little more damage to an EX card than the BCM/SCD would, I think. While at the bottom there is a little more separation of the grades in the BCM/SCD than with PSA. I have some Beckett magazines from a later period but didn't feel like digging them out. I was wondering though if they had modified their grading forms since the seventies. I was pretty basic then. A little more to the point of EEK's question though. There are some standards to use in the SCD to determine prices if you know the grades. In the 2000 SCD 3 prices are listed NM, EX and VG. It is explained that Good is 50% of the VG price, Fair is 50% of the Good price and Poor has no value. Of course Mint is at 100% value, which I read somewhere, probably in an older SCD was 10% higher than the NM price which is in the book. I also retain in my memory that Good is 10% of the Mint price. Very Good, by virtue of the Good price, becomes twice that at 20%. In the book EX is almost always half of the NM price. By listing these we can get a little more organized. Mint 100%, Near Mint 90%, Excellent 45%, Very Good 20%, Good 10%, Fair 5% and Poor 0%. Each tweener falls in between and for star cards or high # cards or something that grade Poor, they can't have no value so put them in between a Poor-Fair card, (which would be 2 1/2%) and a Poor card, (0%). Somewhere around 1%, give or take depending. That's what I go by. One other thing, I'm a slabcracker, so PSA grades mean little to me. Greg (yaz) On 2/8/2017 12:39 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > try this > http://www.psacard.com/resources/gradingstandards/ > Joel > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:26 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net > [OBC-Ramblings] > > wrote: > There are are a couple of things that lead me to believe that I am > simply impersonating a knowledgeable card collector. Firstly I > have an irreparable disability when it comes to accurately grading > cards. Secondly this innate deficit contributes to my > incomprehension regarding determining the dollar value of a > particular card. Is there a standard percentage of reduction or > discount when using the SCD that can reasonably determine the > actual fair value of a card? Does that standard vary with regard > to stars, high numbers and / or scarcity? > The primary reason for my inquiry is not a major issue when > purchasing cards from dealers. I have frequently been saved from > myself by hanging out at card shows with FOOT members such as Mike > Rich, Mark Talbot and Ron Perry. Left to my own devices I have > frequently been a victim of the old P.T. Barnum adage. I have no > such qualms when dealing with fellow OBCers as I trust their > fairness when negotiating a trade or in considering dealer scum > offers. Conversely I am often reluctant to propose trades, for > fear of offending a fellow OBCer with high balling on my end. > Some of you may say "is there a method to this guys Rambling > madness?" Yes, in fact there is. I said all that to say this. As > many of you old timers know, I was reintroduced to card collecting > by my son back in 1998 and fortunately discovered OBC a few years > later. Dustin and I established a mission of completing the Topps > Tigers Team base sets from 1952 through present. In drawing up my > will and wishes for distribution of my worldly possessions, I have > bequeathed my Tigers collection to Dustin's Daughter upon my > demise of which I am postponing until my very last breath some > time in the very distant future. How some ever, many of my > contemporaries have gone before me so I feel a certain urgency > regarding completing my Tiger set mission for Shalynn. I have a > few high dollar vintage cards I would like to obtain prior to my > 71st revolution around the sun coming up in September. In > appreciation to OBC I would like to fill the holes in my vintage > Tigers binders via mutually beneficial trades with y'all! Please > be aware that I am not looking for RAOKs or nefarious OBC schemes > to fill the aforementioned cardboard. I know the well intention-ed > tricks used within the group. Please no mass crusade like > appealing to group members via means that preclude my knowledge. > Please no abnormal purchases of a card you don't want or need just > to work a trade. It is important to me that I complete my mission > via trade. So, if you have a vintage Tiger card I am seeking in > your possession that you are willing to trade for a like value > card(s) that you need please let me know. > As might be expected my highest priority is the dreaded hi 52T > #354 Fred Hatfield! Anyone have one they would like to trade. I > prefer low Good condition! If you got this far, thanks for your time. > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 20:36:18 +0000 Subject: Long Island dealer - 1952-1960 cards From: Shawn Smart Hey all - I have been having conversations with a dealer who specialized in graded cards from 52-60. You can see his e-mails below. I figured I would pass along his info for anyone who might be interested in slabbed cards from thisera. He has an extensive inventory - " I do have just about every Topps card from 1952 through 1960, except of course the Mantle rookie, and a few other high number 1952's as I sold them." His name is Ron Goodman. E-mail: > From: Ron Goodman Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 8:23 AM To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: Baseball cards I could ship cards in the US only. My evaluation of the cards would be honest and truthful, if not graded. Only thing is I would not accept returns. I used to sell US postage stamps, and I cant tell you the stuff people sendback saying what I sent them. But, I would stand by what I describe in the cards. That is why I deal mostly in graded cards. That way there is no confusion. From: Ron Goodman > Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 6:16 AM To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: Baseball cards Hi Shawn, I do not have a list per se but I do have just about every Topps card from 1952 through 1960, except of course the Mantle rookie, and a few other highnumber 1952's as I sold them. But as I said if you e-mail me your wants, I can tell you what condition the card I have is. of course also if I currently have it in stock. My regular shows are at Hofstra University run by JP sports Their Web site is www.nysshows.org. We meet at Hofstra every month or if the room is not avail. ,as is the nexttwo months we meet at Plainviev, which is this coming Sunday at the Holiday Inn - exit 46 off the expressway. March 26 we will be at the VFW again. Hope I have guided you OK, and nice meeting you. If I can help in any other way contact me. On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Shawn Smart > Hi Ron, It was nice meeting you at the card show today. I had two questions for you. 1. Do you have any type of inventory list of what you have available? 2. Is there a website that lists where upcoming shows will be? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:44:39 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: COMC From: "Thomas W. Billing" Sorry about using this as a pulpit, but I am miffed about this misadventurewith COMC and wanted to see if anyone else has had issues like this with them. Back on January 22nd I used PayPal and put $20 into my COMC kitty in order to bid on some cards. It did not show up on their site. It was a Sunday so I had to wait until the next day to ask about it. I was told that quite often funds don=E2=99t show up right away. I had never seen more than afive second delay in the past and I have had MANY of them. The guy said he would put a temporary $20 credit in my account so that I could spend it. I did this and the cards arrived a long time ago. Now I am told that the credit has been removed and I am at -$19.42 for a balance. I have sent them screen shots from my Discover Card showing that the money went out and never came back and a screen shot from my PayPal account showing the same thing. For some reason they are still =E2=9Cinvestigating=E2=9D despite evidence that the issue is there and not here. It is now close to a month after the transaction. I have escalated it on my PayPal account to a dispute. I hope none of you has a problem like this. Tom Billing ================= Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:59:55 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Gurus Auction #4 ENDS SUNDAY 6AM EST From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I wanted to get one reminder out before the yahoo digest is sent out. The most popular is lot #2 =E2=9962 Topps =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D card with 13 bids. The least popular is lot #7 =E2=9969 Clemente with just 2 bids. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #4 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit on how many lots you request, but you can only win one lot. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and draw the winner out of my vintage (maroon colored) OBC hat. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST, with =E2=9CWauction Winners=E2=9Dannounced. The =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D catalog will be published on the OBC Facebook 1. 1961 Topps baseball #43 NL Home Run Leaders with Banks, Aaron, and Mathews in VG condition. 2. 1962 Topps baseball #595 Rookie Parade =E2=9CInfielders=E2=9D VG on every set collectors wantlist! 3. 1957 Topps baseball #18 Don Drysdale RC Brooklyn Dodgers card is complete but top 1/4 of card numerous creases bite marks and dents. 4. 1961 Fleer =E2=9CBaseball Greats=E2=9D #1 with Baker, Cobb, and Wheat. Help celebrate OBCs =E2=9CFleer February=E2=9D! Number one card in the set G-VG condition with a neatly marked checklist on the back. 5. 1957 Topps baseball #125 Al Kaline VG card BUT bottom corners and bottomedge damage. Presents well! 6. 1964 Topps baseball #7 NL Batting Leaders with Clemente and Aaron. G-VG pretty 7. 1969 Topps baseball #50 Bob (Roberto) Clemente nicely centered with rounded corners. Some writing on the front that is scribbled out. It looks likethe words =E2=9CStockton=E2=9D and =E2=9CPortland=E2=9D have been inked on the front and then crossed out? Card is complete. 8. 1965 Topps baseball #3 AL Home Run Leaders with Mantle. Complete card inG condition with Mantle. Did I mention this card pictures Mantle? 9. 1952 Bowman baseball #252 Frank Crosetti NY Yankees G condition card minor scuffing on front and off centered 90-10 L-R. Last card in set! 17 time World Series champ as both player and coach! Not a bad looking card! 10. 1969-1970 Topps basketball starter set of 30 (THIRTY!) different cards 30% of the whole set (99). All commons Darrall Imhoff I remember him, Mel Counts, and Bob Boozer included. G-VG some worse NONE better LOL! Six of these cards have the team logo from the =E2=9971-=E2=9972 Topps =E2=9CTrio=E2=9D set attached which is a great =E2=9Cbonus=E2=9D LOL.=E2=9CTall-Boy=E2=9D fever, CATCH IT!s ================= To: "'Thomas W. Billing'" , Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:42:38 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC From: "Grant Rainsley" In my books, COMC has crashed and burned in a self-inflicted way=E2=A6=E2=A6doubled the price of shipping to Canada, and since they went over to Ebay their shipping has increased even more. I also had a =E2=9Cfinancial issue=E2=9D with them, their accounting seems to have gone by the wayside with their growth. Glad I=E2=99m not alone. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February 10, 2017 1:45 PM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] COMC Sorry about using this as a pulpit, but I am miffed about this misadventurewith COMC and wanted to see if anyone else has had issues like this with them. Back on January 22nd I used PayPal and put $20 into my COMC kitty in order to bid on some cards. It did not show up on their site. It was a Sunday so I had to wait until the next day to ask about it. I was told that quite often funds don=E2=99t show up right away. I had never seen more than a five second delay in the past and I have had MANY of them. The guy said he would put a temporary $20 credit in my account so that I could spend it. I didthis and the cards arrived a long time ago. Now I am told that the credit has been removed and I am at -$19.42 for a balance. I have sent them screen shots from my Discover Card showing that themoney went out and never came back and a screen shot from my PayPal account showing the same thing. For some reason they are still =E2=9Cinvestigating=E2=9D despite evidence that the issue is there and not here. It is now close to a month after the transaction. I have escalated it on my PayPal account to a dispute. I hope none of you has a problem like this. Tom Billing ================= To: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 18:02:28 -0800 Subject: Re: Original Photos From: "George Vrechek" I found it interesting to see how they cropped and colorized the photos. Not sure they picked the right bright blue color for Jansen's Giants hat, but it was all more labor intensive before "real" color. George Vrechek ================= Date: 11 Feb 2017 13:44:44 +0000 To: Subject: 1967 Topps Brooks Robinson #600 for trade? From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:47:57 -0500 To: OBC UV Mailing List , Subject: Question on selling on the UV server From: Jimi Thayer I've seen a couple people attempt to sell on the UV server over the last few months, and before I also try it, I wondered if it was.... A) OK to do so here. B) Is there any interest at all in buying UV? I would be selling from my PC, not business. And I would not inundate you all with junk.....although "junk" is relative....especially with UV. :) I have JUNK for sure....but I was thinking along the lines of some of thesesets I don't collect like 1954 Topps Archives and 1953 Topps Archives. Things I think some of you would enjoy. And....trading would also be great instead of buying, too. All of this is null and avoid, if it's not allowed, so I figured I'd ask first! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:02:50 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question on selling on the UV server From: Ken M Jimi,  The UV list is not an OBC sanctioned server and isn't governed by the usual OBC restrictions (it's borderline anarchy and lawlessness over there!). You are allowed to post FS stuff on the server, but I can't guarantee you'll have the success you'd have posting cheap pre-war HOF'ers on the DS server. If anyone reading this would like to join the UV list and hasn't already done so, shoot me a message and I'll get you added on. I promise not to poke fun (too much) at you and keep things discreet (as possible) ;-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2017 10:48 AMTo: OBC UV Mailing List;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Question on selling on the UV server I've seen a couple people attempt to sell on the UV server over the last few months, and before I also try it, I wondered if it was....A) OK to do so here. B) Is there any interest at all in buying UV? I would be selling from my PC, not business. And I would not inundate you all with junk.....although "junk" is relative....especially with UV. :)I have JUNK for sure....but I was thinking along the lines of some of these sets I don't collect like 1954 Topps Archives and 1953 Topps Archives. Things I think some of you would enjoy. And....trading would also be great instead of buying, too.All of this is null and avoid, if it's not allowed, so I figured I'd ask first! Thanks!JimiSent from my iPad------------------------------------Posted by: Jimi Thayer ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please ================= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:06:21 -0500 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question on selling on the UV server From: Joel Freedman Jimi, anything goes=85=85 On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Jimi, > The UV list is not an OBC sanctioned server and isn't governed by the usual OBC restrictions (it's borderline anarchy and lawlessness over there!). You are allowed to post FS stuff on the server, but I can't guarantee you'll have the success you'd have posting cheap pre-war HOF'ers on the DS server. If anyone reading this would like to join the UV list and hasn't already done so, shoot me a message and I'll get you added on. I promise not to poke fun (too much) at you and keep things discreet (as possible) ;-) > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2017 10:48 AM > To: OBC UV Mailing List;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Question on selling on the UV server > I've seen a couple people attempt to sell on the UV server over the last few months, and before I also try it, I wondered if it was....A) OK to do so here. B) Is there any interest at all in buying UV? I would be selling from my PC, not business. And I would not inundate you all with junk.....although "junk" is relative....especially with UV. :)I have JUNK for sure....but I was thinking along the lines of some of these sets I don't collect like 1954 Topps Archives and 1953 Topps Archives. Things I think some of youwould enjoy. And....trading would also be great instead of buying, too.All of this is null and avoid, if it's not allowed, so I figured I'd ask first! Thanks!JimiSent from my iPad------------------------------------Posted by: Jimi Thayer ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their name ================= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:56:44 -0500 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question on selling on the UV server From: Yahoo I got pretty excited when you said anarchy and lawlessness. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2017, at 11:02, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Jimi, > The UV list is not an OBC sanctioned server and isn't governed by the usual OBC restrictions (it's borderline anarchy and lawlessness over there!). You are allowed to post FS stuff on the server, but I can't guarantee you'll have the success you'd have posting cheap pre-war HOF'ers on the DS server. If anyone reading this would like to join the UV list and hasn't already done so, shoot me a message and I'll get you added on. I promise not to poke fun (too much) at you and keep things discreet (as possible) ;-) > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2017 10:48 AM > To: OBC UV Mailing List;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Question on selling on the UV server > I've seen a couple people attempt to sell on the UV server over the last few months, and before I also try it, I wondered if it was....A) OK to do so here. B) Is there any interest at all in buying UV? I would be selling from my PC, not business. And I would not inundate you all with junk.....although "junk" is relative....especially with UV. :)I have JUNK for sure....but I was thinking along the lines of some of these sets I don't collect like 1954 Topps Archives and 1953 Topps Archives. Things I think some of youwould enjoy. And....trading would also be great instead of buying, too.All of this is null and avoid, if it's not allowed, so I figured I'd ask first! Thanks!JimiSent from my iPad------------------------------------Posted by: Jimi Thayer ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their name ================= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:13:14 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Anyone have T207/T205 Cubs cards? From: Patrick Prickett So someone is willing to trade me one of my missing W572s, IF I can find a hit to his T207/T205 Cubs list. From what I can gather, the T205 Cubsreally come down to rarer backs, so much more likely that someone has a T207 Cubs card. Anyone have one they may be willing to trade? ================= Date: 12 Feb 2017 02:00:04 +0000 To: Subject: Redford show late notice From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:39:09 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1971 OPC CFL posters From: Rick Does anyone have these on their wantlists? Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:01:45 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Guru's "Wauction" #4 RESULTS From: LAWRENCE TIPTON The results are in! I had to make one small change to my procedures. Drawing the names out of my vintage maroon colored OBC hat became to much trouble. Plus just before the first =E2=9Cpull=E2=9D, I discovered a couple names from last months =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D lodged in the caps sweat band! So I drew names out of that plastic dish cover that sits on my microwave oven. You know that cover that you put on the plate that prevents splattering. Lot #2 1962 Topps Hi Number =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D card was the most popular getting 18 bids. Good news I have another =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D already set up for next months =E2Wauction=E2=9D. Tough luck award to Mike Rumley-Wells who was shut out sorry brother! 1. 1961 Topps baseball #43 NL Home Run Leaders =E2=9CKid=E2=9D Brewer 2. 1962 Topps baseball #595 Rookie Parade Randy Griffin 3. 1957 Topps baseball #18 Don Drysdale RC Jay Tysver 4. 1961 Fleer =E2=9CBaseball Greats=E2=9D #1 Chris Tripler 5. 1957 Topps baseball #125 Al Kaline Sean Schuettpelz 6. 1964 Topps baseball #7 NL Batting Leaders Mike Galbreath 7. 1969 Topps baseball #50 Bob (Roberto) Clemente Ed Hutchinson 8. 1965 Topps baseball #3 AL Home Run Leaders with Mantle Sal Domino 9. 1952 Bowman baseball #252 Frank Crosetti Nick Pelletier 10. 1969-1970 Topps basketball starter set of 30 Bob Donaldson ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:28:45 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Available: supplies From: Matthew Glidden Sorted supplies today and have a bunch extra. Let me know if you'd like some and also if you have a number cap or just want any amount. 1-card hard plastics Card Saver II and similar 1-card flexible plastics Postcard & oversize plastics Team bags Puffy mailers (likely w/address label or remnant) ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:15:22 -0500 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: Card storage question From: JDahms ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:25:40 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru's "Wauction" #4 RESULTS From: Jimi Thayer Darn, looks like I got shut out for the 4th time in a Guru Wauction. Congrats to everyone. Nice stuff! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 12, 2017, at 8:01 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > The results are in! I had to make one small change to my procedures. Drawing the names out of my vintage maroon colored OBC hat became to much trouble. Plus just before the first =E2=9Cpull=E2=9D, I discovered a couple names from last months =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D lodged in the caps sweat band! So I drew names out of that plastic dish cover that sits on my microwave oven. You know that cover that you put on the plate that prevents splattering. Lot #2 1962 Topps Hi Number =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D card was the most popular getting 18 bids. Good news I have another =E2=9CRookie Parade=E2=9D already set up for next months =E2Wauction=E2=9D. Tough luck award to Mike Rumley-Wells who was shut out sorry brother! > 1. 1961 Topps baseball #43 NL Home Run Leaders > =E2=9CKid=E2=9D Brewer > 2. 1962 Topps baseball #595 Rookie Parade > Randy Griffin > 3. 1957 Topps baseball #18 Don Drysdale RC > Jay Tysver > 4. 1961 Fleer =E2=9CBaseball Greats=E2=9D #1 > Chris Tripler > 5. 1957 Topps baseball #125 Al Kaline > Sean Schuettpelz > 6. 1964 Topps baseball #7 NL Batting Leaders > Mike Galbreath > 7. 1969 Topps baseball #50 Bob (Roberto) Clemente > Ed Hutchinson > 8. 1965 Topps baseball #3 AL Home Run Leaders with Mantle > Sal Domino > 9. 1952 Bowman baseball #252 Frank Crosetti > Nick Pelletier > 10. 1969-1970 Topps basketball starter set of 30 > Bob Donaldson ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:22:44 -0500 To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card storage question From: Jimi Thayer Both of my sets fit nicely in 4-pocket sheets in a binder. I tend to put my extras in Card Saver 4s though. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 12, 2017, at 11:15 AM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > How are you guys storing your 64 giants and topps supers > I want to pit them in binders. > Thanks > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:30:02 -0800 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card storage question From: Andy Huntoon I use the 4-pocket pages too. The cards are a little loose in the pages but I don't mind. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 8:21 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > JD, > I use 4- pocket pages, like these : > http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/121940243597?lpid82&chnps& > ul_refhttp%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover% > 252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1588% > 2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D53601919689_324272% > 2526itemid%253D121940243597%2526targetid%253D186358888569% > 2526rpc%253D0.33%2526rpc_upld_id%253D105509%2526device% > 253Dt%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay. > com%25252Fulk%25252Fitm%25252Flike%25252F121940243597% > 25253Flpid%25253D82%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla% > 2526googleloc%253D9033594%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid% > 253D239125209%2526adgroupid%253D14978428809%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla- > 186358888569%2526gclid%253DCKP_sfr6itICFVKVfgodElEOyA% > 2526srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1167102625345&ul_noapp > true > Yikes looks like that URL may not be clickable, but I think you get the > idea. Ultra Pro is my "page of choice" > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *Obc Ranblings > *Sent: *February 12, 2017 at 8:17 AM > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] Card storage question > How are you guys storing your 64 giants and topps supers > I want to pit them in binders. > Thanks > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ================= Date: 12 Feb 2017 16:54:00 +0000 To: Subject: Exhibit 1977 Reprints of 1948 HOF Cards From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: 12 Feb 2017 18:23:49 +0000 To: Subject: BF3 Pennants - Picture Needed From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:04:42 +0000 (UTC) To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru's "Wauction" #4 RESULTS From: tvalacak@comcast.net I love these Guru Wauctions too! First time I tried to pick up a card and was also shut out. But I love it! Looking forward to #5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "LAWRENCE TIPTON" Cc: "obc Ramblings" Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:25:40 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru's "Wauction" #4 RESULTS Darn, looks like I got shut out for the 4th time in a Guru Wauction. Congrats to everyone. Nice stuff! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:31:51 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: Available: supplies From: Matthew Glidden Still have lots of 1-card hard plastics and some puffy mailers. Flexible plastic, team bags, and oversize plastic are taken. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:28 AM Matthew Glidden > Sorted supplies today and have a bunch extra. Let me know if you'd like > some and also if you have a number cap or just want any amount. > 1-card hard plastics > Card Saver II and similar 1-card flexible plastics > Postcard & oversize plastics > Team bags > Puffy mailers (likely w/address label or remnant) > Spike ================= Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:55:48 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: What am I missing? From: I know the Canadian Killebrew is hard to find, but do the two high bidders on this lot look like reasonable bids? http://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/112292933887?item=112292933887&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565 And, as far as my 60 year old eyes can see, that is not a blue-line Clemente (which I don't think would even come close to justifying a $500+ bid. Am I missing something or should I contact those two high bidders and see if I can sell them some of my stuff? ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:09:46 +0000 Subject: Re: this week in thanks... From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: 13 Feb 2017 16:20:46 +0000 To: Subject: Mid-day Waivers - Pre-War Football with T51 Murad From: ansonwhaley@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 11:23:37 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mid-day Waivers - Pre-War Football with T51 Murad From: Anson Whaley And ... gone! More later, friends - On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:20 AM, ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I've had some pre-war card waivers for early morning and late night, so > here's one smack dab in the middle of the day for you 'regular folk.' > Cleaning out some binders this weekend and was looking over some of my T51 > Murads. This is a college series that features generic athletes in > different sports, among some other subjects. Below is a link on my site if > you're interested in learning more about them. > At any rate, I've got a Buchtel College card featuring one of the few > football players in the set. A lot of the sports in the set aren't in the > 'Big 4', but the baseball/football/basketball/hockey are sought after. To > say the card is well-loved is an understatement. It has several creases and > is missing a good part of the card in one of the corner areas. But if > you're into Type cards and don't have a T51 or just appreciate older > football cards, this one is for you. > First one in that hasn't previously gotten one of my earlier waivers gets > it. If you've previously gotten one and want this one, let me know. If > unclaimed by a 'newbie' by, say 1:00 p.m. EST, it will be yours. > T51 Murad - https://prewarcards.com/2016/12/27/1910-1911-t51- > murad-college-sports-series-set-and-checklist/ > Cheers, gentlemen - have a great week. > Anson ================= To: obc ramblings , "Thomas W. Billing" Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:05:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question [1 Attachment] From: JAY TYSVER Having worked in the print industry for a number of years, I'll try to takea crack at it. The front and the backs are printed with different plates and I doubt they would align the same way. The card on the bottom of your picture has the black out of register. It may have been at the beginning or the end of a print run or merely just gotten out of register during the run. Because the additional graphic was on the second card and because it was out of register, I tend to believe that this was probably from a proof or early in the print run. That is merely my guess though. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 10:22 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Thomas W. Billing included below] I=92m never quite sure if things on the 54 site get noticed so I will pose this question here. In this scan, the lower card has the yellow offset to the left, it appears (or is it the only correct color?) and perhaps some blue off to the right as =93felt initial=94 is farther right of =93free!=94. The black appears to be off to the right since it runs into the right margin. The real question is, at the left of this card, =93GET YOUR INITIAL FREE=94 is sneaking in. This item is present on the back of both cards as they are on focus. My question then is, was there an additional free felt initial card printed to the left of the one above and turned over, so that the back would be in position to sneak onto the error card? The item is at the top of the back of the card. A real question indeed. Tom Billing ================= Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 14:30:22 -0500 To: rdn56@nc.rr.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What am I missing? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com The rare card in the grouping is the 1962 Post Canadian #7 Berra. Both Peter Mead and I need it, and we are each under to go on this set. I had bid $85 on the lot, figuring $75 for Berra and $10 for everything else. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: rdn56@nc.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 12, 2017 5:55 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] What am I missing? I know the Canadian Killebrew is hard to find, but do the two high bidders on this lot look like reasonable bids? http://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/112292933887?item112292933887&rtnc&_trksidp2047675.l2565 And, as far as my 60 year old eyes can see, that is not a blue-line Clemente (which I don't think would even come close to justifying a $500+ bid. Am I missing something or should I contact those two high bidders and see if Ican sell them some of my stuff? ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 20:56:54 +0000 Subject: Pack break From: Jo Meyer and John Gray ================= To: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 07:15:35 -0800 Subject: 1952 Globe Printing cards? From: "George Vrechek" A reader contacted me to see if I had any idea where he might be able to find 1952 Globe Printing cards of Ventura Braves - George Owen Syracuse Chiefs - John Welaj Anyone ever seen cards of these guys, who are apparently family friends of the reader? George Vrechek ================= Date: 14 Feb 2017 20:34:05 +0000 To: Subject: Any Schedule Collectors Out There? From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: 14 Feb 2017 20:46:37 +0000 To: Subject: Pre-war question: Tobacco Scrap cards From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:52:20 -0500 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre-war question: Tobacco Scrap cards From: Jimi Thayer Scraps are not necessarily "beat up cards". Here's one resource for you to check http://t206resource.com/Article%20VCBC%20T206%20Set%20Errors%20Proofs%20or%20Printers%20Scrap.html Printing errors is the key.... :) And FYI....I have some very expensive ones for sale! :) Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2017, at 3:46 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Ok, I dont get it- it seems to me that scrap cards are just more beat up pre-war cards, yet there seems to be a premium put on these. I grant that Iam a pre-war novice, especially about early tobacco issues- but can someone, or someones, shed some light on this for me? > Thanks! > Ed ================= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 16:27:52 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, VCT , Subject: 1935 Goudey 4-on-1 Appling for trade From: Jimi Thayer I've got a 1935 Goudey Appling in Goodish condition (going from memory right now as it's not in front of me at the moment) for trade and wondered if anyone had a prewar HOFer for trade that I could use. I could add more to the trade if needed. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:28:24 -0800 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre-war question: Tobacco Scrap cards From: wite3 ================= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:37:50 -0800 To: wite3 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre-war question: Tobacco Scrap cards From: Andy Huntoon Hi Ed, It's because a true scrap is very rare. It's not just a beater, but it was never supposed to be circulated to begin with and somehow got into the hobby. This appeals to a decent number of collectors and the rarity of them drives the price up due to supply and demand. I think they are awesome to be honest, but wouldn't pay a lot for them. What I really like are the t206 proofs with the printer's marks and blank backs. Andy Huntoon On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:28 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Tobacco "scraps" like Jimi said are akin to modern day misprints, missing > ink, or test runs. They command a premium because they are often one of a > kind and fairly interesting in showing some of the old time printing > process. I too own a few t205s that are considered scraps like blank backs, > missing colors, missing gold, and miscut. > Joshua > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" yahoogroups.com> > Date: 2/14/17 12:46 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre-war question: Tobacco Scrap cards > Ok, I dont get it- it seems to me that scrap cards are just more beat up > pre-war cards, yet there seems to be a premium put on these. I grant thatI > am a pre-war novice, especially about early tobacco issues- but can > someone, or someones, shed some light on this for me? > Thanks! > Ed ================= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 18:00:33 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: =?utf-8?B?T0JDIE5ldDU0IOKAnEJhbm5lciBBZGTigJ0=?From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Net54 users of course notice the OBC Banner Add. Our banner add is placed there to try and generate some new guy applications. Every year, the owner of Net54 (Leon) asks for a little bit of $$ to keep the add running. Leon is a big supporter of OBC and would probably run the add for free. I am asking for a voluntary $5 donation that I will use to pay Leon to keepthe add up for another year. I hope to collect from 10 to 20 members and will stop the campaign in a couple days or when we reach 20 members giving $5 ($100 total) This $5 donation is 100% voluntary. I already ran this through the OBCAC and have approval. OBC does not budgetfor PayPal F/F, cash or check is fine. PLEASE email me first before sending money, I will email you back and tell you it=E2=99s OK to send your $5 donation or that the $100 goal has been reached and donations are closed. ================= Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 19:29:12 -0500 To: jehutch75@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre-war question: Tobacco Scrap cards From: Anson Whaley Hi Ed - I concur with everything already said. One thing I would add is that there is a major premium associated with scraps on popular sets, such as T206 and T205. As a general rule, that premium doesn't exist in the same manner in less popular sets. Scraps in other pre-war sets still have a premium but (for the most part) not nearly as much as they do in T205 or T206 cards. For example, I have an N284 Buchner card that is drastically miscut showing about 1/3 of another card, and has part of the back text printed horizontally and the other part vertically (because, I believe, it was at the end of a sheet where the last row of cards were perpendicular to the next to the last row). As a T206, that would be a very valuable card. As an N284, there would still be interest for it above and beyond a regular card, but not have nearly the same multiplier. There are always exceptions and what not so that's certainly not a hard and fast rule. But often, the more popular the pre-war set is in general, the more value a scrap will have. On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:46 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Ok, I dont get it- it seems to me that scrap cards are just more beat up > pre-war cards, yet there seems to be a premium put on these. I grant thatI > am a pre-war novice, especially about early tobacco issues- but can > someone, or someones, shed some light on this for me? > Thanks! > Ed ================= Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:13:54 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vintage Basketball WAIVER WIRE! Tall boys and more! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Please provide your address in your response if possible. 1970-71 Topps Tall Boys! 8, 11, 28, 44, 45, 52, 58, 61, 69, 77, 99 1971-72 Topps: 39, 40, 111, 126 1973-74 Topps: 6, 74, 112, 127, 134, 171, 183, 187, 197, 199, 215, 226, 241, 246, 258 1975-76 Topps: 51, 64, 69, 96, 107, 134, 175, 247, 306 ALSO....a few baseball that are sitting here, too: 1970 Topps #252, 331 1970 Topps Scratch-Offs (RED) Colbert and Spencer CLAIM AWAY! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:08:12 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: error message accessing directory From: smartalecx@aol.com Error - Could not connect to host 10.30.84.159: MySQL server has gone away Gary Mandell 4243 North Claremont Avenue Chicago, IL 60618-2905 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:01:27 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re Net54 banner add "chip-in" From: LAWRENCE TIPTON The Net 54 banner add =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D is now closed thanks to thetwenty OBC members who sent/will send me $5. I will paypal Leon $100 latertoday. The =E2=9Cchip-in =E2=9C is closed. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:56:29 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Yesterdays eBay Saga From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I saw a posting for 32 different 1976 Topps =E2=9CShocking Laffs=E2=9D cards (the listing had been up for three days). This is a very interesting non-sports set, mostly released in the UK, but there was a rarer US version released as well. These were the UK version which I collect. Anyway for the 32 different =E2=9CShocking Laffs=E2=9D cards it was a =E2=9CBuy It Now=E2=9D GBP 40 (US $50) with shipping set at GBP 17 (US $21). The cards looked great, but the only pictures were the front of the cardsin plastic sheets. No numbers were mentioned, and the numbers are on the back. Also only 30 cards were pictured. So I pull out my partial set, and compare the card fronts to what are pictured, and discover that this lot of 32 (30 pictured) includes ten hits! I sent a message to the seller confirming it is 32 cards rather than the 30pictured. I also asked about the shipping. The seller was going to ship inplastic pages with a binder, and I asked for a reduced shipping by pullingthe cards out of the pages. Within 30 minuted the seller responds and tells me yes it is 32 cards, and two cards are not pictured. Seller also knocks a couple bucks off shipping. So the =E2=9CGuru Math=E2=9D kicks in. Approx $75 total US for ten hits that=E2=99s not a bad price $7.50 a card maybe a little high but I get 22 duplicates which I could probably re-sell on eBay at $5 each. Time to pull the trigger! So I back to the eBay listing, and the item is no longer available. I=E2=99m thinking the seller pulled the listing down to adjust the shipping charges? Then I get another eBay message from the seller. Somebody else just bought it! LOL! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Topps-Shocking-Laffs-Horror-Cards-70s-32-cards-/232237725359?_trksidp2047675.l2557&ssPageNameSTRK:MEBIDX:IT&nma= true&si01k5CxX5PzMuNhBNHmg2hHiXnrc%3D&orig_cviptrue&rtnc Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:50:11 -0500 Subject: Pre War freebies W573 From: "Bob Donaldson" I have the following W573's available to a good home. W573's are black and white versions of the E120 American Caramels. These cards are heavily trimmed, with the ornate border being cut off leaving an oval shaped card, with some cool writing on the back. Ralph Shinners Dave Bancroft Heinie Groh ================= To: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:16:01 -0500 Subject: RE: Pre War freebies W573 From: "Bob Donaldson" All have been claimed! From: Bob Donaldson [mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:50 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pre War freebies W573 I have the following W573's available to a good home. W573's are black and white versions of the E120 American Caramels. These cards are heavily trimmed, with the ornate border being cut off leaving an oval shaped card, with some cool writing on the back. Ralph Shinners Dave Bancroft Heinie Groh ================= Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:58:02 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Tom browning From: Yahoo I am looking for Tom browning perfect game 1989 Fleer #629. I attended this game with my dad as a child, and he is going to spring training games in Arizona in a few weeks. He hopes to be able to get some cards signing by Tom browning. If anybody has some of these laying around I will buy them from you, or you can send them and I will pay you back with some vintage hits. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 17 Feb 2017 03:40:30 +0000 To: Subject: Couple late 70s good cheap lots From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 09:18:29 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC in Glasgow!! From: Glenn Codere Looking forward to a rare OBC get together here in Glasgow this evening. Mr & Mrs Jim Silva are in Scotland for the Glasgow Film Festival and we've arranged to meet up this evening at one of Glasgow's finest Indian restaurants. Should be a good one!! GlennGlenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:15:28 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1934 Batter Ups From: Robert Fitts After receiving a nice group of Batter Ups from Bob Donaldson, I=92ve decided to start Series 1 of the set. I especially like the cards that are missing the tops - like them better than the intact cards. I will put togethera want list next week but if anybody has some they want to trade or sell, please let me know rob fitts ================= Date: 17 Feb 2017 21:49:44 +0000 To: Subject: Some 70s football waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 18 Feb 2017 01:28:04 +0000 To: Subject: Topps 70s Football and Baseball Waivers From: mike.galbreath@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:21:07 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: Bob Lemke's remaining custom cards for sale via Net54 From: Matthew Glidden ...of special interest to 1958 Topps (and Phillies) collectors would be Bob's space-filler for Ed Bouchee http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2016/09/checklist-of-my-custom-baseball-cards_51.html On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:18 AM Matthew Glidden > Net54 user kneerat coordinating the sale of (RIP) Bob Lemke's remaining > custom card creations. Bob made some great pieces and knew the history to > go along with them. More details and links to the card images on Net54: > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=235030 > Spike ================= Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:18:42 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Bob Lemke's remaining custom cards for sale via Net54 From: Matthew Glidden Net54 user kneerat coordinating the sale of (RIP) Bob Lemke's remaining custom card creations. Bob made some great pieces and knew the history to go along with them. More details and links to the card images on Net54: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=235030 ================= Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 12:03:15 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: OldCardboard.com domain expired From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, anyone have contact with OldCardboard.com and can let them know their domain's apparently expired? Redirects to a placeholder page at the ================= Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:31:15 -0500 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OldCardboard.com domain expired From: Anson Whaley Hey Spike - They have had a major virus issue all week (on their host's end, not theirs). The page displayed at times but with broken code for the past several days. My guess is that it's related to that. But they are aware of the issue and I think the message you are seeing is probably part of an effort to get things back up again. On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi all, anyone have contact with OldCardboard.com and can let them know > their domain's apparently expired? Redirects to a placeholder page at the > moment. > Spike ================= Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:26:01 -0500 To: Anson Whaley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OldCardboard.com domain expired From: Jimi Thayer Lyman details this on Net54. I discovered it early last week while using the site as a resource for my book I'm writing. Not good when that happens.It did work a little bit on Wednesday or Thursday, but "Pure Host" apparently has had a virus....first time in all their years with this. It'll beback! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Anson Whaley ansonwhaley@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey Spike - > They have had a major virus issue all week (on their host's end, not theirs). The page displayed at times but with broken code for the past several days. My guess is that it's related to that. But they are aware of the issue and I think the message you are seeing is probably part of an effort to get things back up again. > Anson >> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hi all, anyone have contact with OldCardboard.com and can let them know their domain's apparently expired? Redirects to a placeholder page at the moment. >> Spike ================= Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:12:24 -0500 To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Bob Lemke's remaining custom cards for sale via From: Joshua Levine Just so people know...These are high quality cards, Bob and I used to correspond and I helped him add sets and cards to the catalog back when he was still primary publisher and he has sent me a few over the years (the t205 Wagners are some of my favorites...and a few that are not listed on the site!!). Also, Larry...you might want to ask if the Civil War New reprints are included in this sale. I know he did not sell those in the past but I think he gave a few away. They are great. Also, kneerat, the one handling the sale is TS O'Connell...yes, the same one who put out sets for years, a great artist, writer, baseball collector, and all around great guy. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc ramblings Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 4:26 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Bob Lemke's remaining custom cards for sale via Net54 Net54 user kneerat coordinating the sale of (RIP) Bob Lemke's remaining custom card creations. Bob made some great pieces and knew the history to go along with them. More details and links to the card images on Net54: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t235030 ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 10:50:29 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Bob Lemke's remaining custom cards for sale From: "Matt Yudt" Wow, that=E2=99s very cool. Found you can get the Bouchee (and probablyothers) for a fraction of the cost on ebay too=E2=A6 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 7:21 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Bob Lemke's remaining custom cards for sale via ...of special interest to 1958 Topps (and Phillies) collectors would be Bob's space-filler for Ed Bouchee http://boblemke.blogspot.com/2016/09/checklist-of-my-custom-baseball-cards_51.html On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:18 AM Matthew Glidden > wrote: Net54 user kneerat coordinating the sale of (RIP) Bob Lemke's remaining custom card creations. Bob made some great pieces and knew the history to go along with them. More details and links to the card images on Net54: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t235030 ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:20:24 +0000 Subject: Some Warm Weather Waivers From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, With February temps in Michigan climbing well into the 50s, I took this as a sign from the G/god(s) that I need to get right with the world. With that spirit in mind, here are some low-grade waivers for the offering =96 manyare not for the faint of heart: 1950 Bowman 105 1952 Topps 15, 95, 109, 296 1953 Bowman 19, 45, 74, 105, 107, 109 1953 Topps 116, 193, 198, 241 1954 Bowman 213 1954 Topps 26, 29 1955 Bowman 78, 124 1955 Topps 126 1956 Topps 9, 18, 45, 106, 124, 169, 201, 232, 241 1960 Topps 163 1972 Topps 200 1973 Topps 300 1973 OPC 9, 13, 14, 1823, 25, 28, 29, 33, 39, 47, 49, 53, 58, 60, 70, 71, 73, 78, 79, 81, 82, 86, 89, 92, 104, 109, 111, 112, 114, 116, 117, 119, 122,132, 266, 339, 348, 352, 361, 366, 381, 382, 383, 386, 387, 388, 391 1974 Topps 80, 330, 331 1976 OPC 76, 111 1979 OPC 23, 25, 54 1955 Topps All-American Football 24, 32, 49, 75, 91 Please include address for easier shipping! Be happy, John Scott Gray Sent from Outlook ================= Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:12:23 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: NASCAR Fantasy League (Yahoo) From: LAWRENCE TIPTON For the past couple years, TJ and I have participated in a NASCAR Fantasy League through Yahoo. This year I started our own league and we are looking for It is not to late to join, you have until next Sunday to set it up. Once you get the hang of setting your lineups, it should only take around ten minutes a week research and set up your team It=E2=99s a lot of fun. The Yahoo format is easy to use. Basically you select one A driver (best guys Busch Kez JJ) for your starting lineup and one A driver for your bench each week. Two B drivers (McMurray Elliott Danica) and two B bench drivers each week. One C driver (Dillon Whitt Suarez) and one C bench driver each week. Starters and Bench must be set before qualifying (this week Daytona 500 is a bit different lineups must be set before the race). Once qualifying is completed, you may swap your bench and starters around. You can only use each driver nine times during the year. You bench drivers are important because they earn points for qualifying. Scoring (basically) the driver that wins the race gets the most points (maybe 40) and the driver that finishes last gets maybe one point. The top fourqualifiers get points too. I think the driver that leads the most laps gets points, and if a driver leads a lap they get points I=E2=99m not totally sure about that. Of course Yahoo tallies up everything. It really is easy if you have never participated in Fantasy you should be fine. I can provide help if you need it. You will need to come up with a team name, I am =E2=9Cblown gasket=E2=9D. To add a little =E2=9Cfun=E2=9D to the league, each participant pays the weekly winner $2 which will be paid at the end of the season. Worst case scenario (you never win a week) it will cost you $72 (36 racing weeks times $2) but I would expect most guys would win at least one week? TJ and I have played before but we are not experts LOL! Last year I was the =E2=9Cbig money=E2=9D winner. TJ paid me $7, and his brother Kenny paid me $11. You need a yahoo email address to participate, but since all of us are on the yahoo groups server I think you already have one. If you want to participate, contact me via email and I will send you an invitation to join. TJ or I can help with questions. ================= To: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 09:12:22 -0500 Subject: Bowman Reprints From: "Bob Donaldson" I have a bunch of 1989 Bowman Sweepstakes Reprint cards. 11 Cards in the set. I believe I have a number of complete sets. If you'd like one, or perhaps any specific players, just let me know ================= Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 15:45:26 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Public service announcement - Trippleplayvintage From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, Just thought I'd share a warning about buying from a popular seller on Ebay- I just bought a large lot from him that he advertised as "EX". To saytheleast, these were not EX (unless you mean this is what cards looklike after your Ex gets through with them). Rips, creases, writing, you name it. I guess there were some I would have said were vg (all four corners flaying with some bending but otherwise okay), but the lot was WAY I'm not trying to complain. I'm fine with the deal. I'm in OBC - I'm not condition sensitive. But I'd bid on his stuff knowing it isseveral grades lower than what he claims. ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Patrick Prickett Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:24:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Public service announcement - Trippleplayvintage From: JAY TYSVER I'd have to think that was in error. I've bought plenty from them and usually they are right on with their grading. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 9:45 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Public service announcement - Trippleplayvintage Hi All, Just thought I'd share a warning about buying from a popular seller on Ebay- I just bought a large lot from him that he advertised as "EX". To say the least, these were not EX (unless you mean this is what cards look like after your Ex gets through with them). Rips, creases, writing, you name it. Iguess there were some I would have said were vg (all four corners flaying with some bending but otherwise okay), but the lot was WAY overgraded. I'm not trying to complain. I'm fine with the deal. I'm in OBC - I'm not condition sensitive. But I'd bid on his stuff knowing it is several gradeslower than what he claims. ================= Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:18:09 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: An OBC Meeting.....in Glasgow! From: Glenn Codere Hey Guys, I once again had the opportunity to meet a fellow OBCer right here in my home town of Glasgow, Scotland. I think that's about 14 or 15 OBCers who havecome my way over the years! This time it was the turn of Jim Silva and his lovely wife Cesca, who were in town for the Glasgow Film Festival. Maureen and I had the pleasure of their company for a few hours, during which we showed them a little bit of Glasgow's Merchant City area, went for some Indian food at one of my favoriterestaurants, then finished off the evening in the city's top whisky bar. We had an amazing time with a wonderful couple. Thanks to both Jim and Cesca for picking up the tab for dinner, and to Jim for the traditional OBC handshake which included a 1971T Super Johnny Bench, a 1960 Leaf, a series of beautiful silks of national flags, and about 70 Topps cards of the UV variety. GlennGlasgow, Scotland Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:05:53 +0000 (UTC) To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] NASCAR Fantasy League (Yahoo) From: tvalacak@comcast.net If any of you follow NASCAR, even remotely, I would like to encourage you to join the league. I definitely consider myself a non-expert. They have some tools on the website to help you make decisions. Or, you can be like me, trying to pick drivers I like each week. It's a low risk league. 2 bucks a week. ANyone interested in joining, shoot me or the Guru a line and we can help you get set up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "obc Ramblings" Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 8:12:23 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] NASCAR Fantasy League (Yahoo) For the past couple years, TJ and I have participated in a NASCAR Fantasy League through Yahoo. This year I started our own league and we are looking for It is not to late to join, you have until next Sunday to set it up. Once you get the hang of setting your lineups, it should only take around ten minutes a week research and set up your team It=E2=99s a lot of fun. The Yahoo format is easy to use. Basically you select one A driver (best guys Busch Kez JJ) for your starting lineup and one A driver for your bench each week. Two B drivers (McMurray Elliott Danica) and two B bench drivers each week. One C driver (Dillon Whitt Suarez) and one C bench driver each week. Starters and Bench must be set before qualifying (this week Daytona 500 is a bit different lineups must be set before the race). Once qualifying is completed, you may swap your bench and starters around. You can only use each driver nine times during the year. You bench drivers are important because they earn points for qualifying. Scoring (basically) the driver that wins the race gets the most points (maybe 40) and the driver that finishes last gets maybe one point. The top fourqualifiers get points too. I think the driver that leads the most laps gets points, and if a driver leads a lap they get points I=E2=99m not totally sure about that. Of course Yahoo tallies up everything. It really is easy if you have never participated in Fantasy you should be fine. I can provide help if you need it. You will need to come up with a team name, I am =E2=9Cblown gasket=E2=9D. To add a little =E2=9Cfun=E2=9D to the league, each participant pays the weekly winner $2 which will be paid at the end of the season. Worst case scenario (you never win a week) it will cost you $72 (36 racing weeks times $2) but I would expect most guys would win at least one week? TJ and I have played before but we are not experts LOL! Last year I was the =E2=9Cbig money=E2=9D winner. TJ paid me $7, and his brother Kenny paid me $11. You need a yahoo email address to participate, but since all of us are on the yahoo groups server I think you already have one. If you want to participate, contact me via email and I will send you an invitation to join. TJ or I can help with questions. ================= Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:28:08 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: This could be an expensive vacation From: Ken M Hi gang,  The kids have the week off from school, so I took the week off from work - and promptly caught a 24-hour stomach bug. I was even too tired and week to drag myself in for some overtime Sunday. You KNOW I'm sick when I can't make it in for that. After a lot of rest and fluids, I felt semi-normal around 9 that night. So, with nothing on my schedule and no kids in the house (for now), I got to surfing eBay. I lost out on some 71 Kelloggs cards, but have already landed a couple Hostess lots. Then while looking over one of the lots I had either bid on or won, I saw this with two hours to go...http://www.ebay.com/itm/332127675591 I have barely gotten out of bed since Saturday night and it could end up costing me a fortune. Really wish I could've worked that OT now... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:48:02 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] This could be an expensive vacation From: Ken M I don't have any plans to start a 9 set project on the 68's. If I was ever crazy enough to do one for a vintage set, it would be either the first set I collected (1977 - easy), one of the first vintage sets I completed (1962 - difficult) or a birth year set (1966 - epic)... Or maybe just an 8 set accumulation of 1956's (since I already have 2-1/2 sets with all the variations). Nah... I'll pass on those ideas - for now. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: familytoad@comcast.netDate: Mon, Feb 20, 2017 7:35 PMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Ken M;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] This could be an expensive vacation Ken, I presume that you'll be beginning the infamous 9 set project for these Burlap Beauties. That will indeed be a good start by picking up a couple Mantles to start to fill binder page $280. Nice work! Getting 8 (?) more Ryan cards and 6 (?) more Mantles can get expensive...but we can help with the additional Pete Ward or Max Alvis cards you'll need🤓 Get that list together! OBC FOREVER Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: February 20, 2017 at 2:31 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] This could be an expensive vacation   Hi gang,  The kids have the week off from school, so I took the week off from work - and promptly caught a 24-hour stomach bug. I was even too tired and week to drag myself in for some overtime Sunday. You KNOW I'm sick when I can't make it in for that. After a lot of rest and fluids, I felt semi-normal around 9 that night. So, with nothing on my schedule and no kids in the house (for now), I got to surfing eBay. I lost out on some 71 Kelloggs cards, but have already landed a couple Hostess lots. Then while looking over one of the lots I had either bid on or won, I saw this with two hours to go...http://www.ebay.com/itm/332127675591 I have barely gotten out of bed since S aturday night and it could end up costing me a fortune. Really wish I could've worked that OT now... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: 21 Feb 2017 01:21:14 +0000 To: Subject: 1970 & 1971 Topps Scratch Offs From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:02:33 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Post Cereal museum From: Steve Rittenberg Cool website http://postcerealbaseballcardmuseum.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:03:59 -0800 To: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 & 1971 Topps Scratch Offs From: John Stamper 70 Osteen 71 Spencer Coming your way John Stamper > On Feb 20, 2017, at 5:21 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey gang, > A few years ago, I realized that I had a combination Topps Scratch Off set. I always knew they had red or white insides, I just didn't know the insides were specific to a year. So, I have been meaning to post these semi new additions to the wantlist for a few years. I have the following available if anyone needs/can help out. > 1970 - Bosman - writing on front, unscratched > 1970 - McCarver - unscratched > 1970 Perez - detached half, showing Perez. scratched > The following are my wants: > 1970 Topps Scratch Off (White inside) > Kaline Osteen Powell > 1971 Topps Scratch Off (Red Inside) > Aaron Aparicio Bando Beckert Bosman Colbert Hegan Jones Killebrew McCarver McDowell Perez Pinella Seaver Spencer Stargell Wynn Yaz > Thanks > TJ ================= To: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:01:36 -0500 Subject: Oddball availables From: "Bob Donaldson" I've spent the greater part of the weekend going through most everyone's wantlist and still have the following available. I'm too lazy to put them away so please claim away 1970 Football Super 11 32 1970 Football Glossy 17 18 19 21 196? Fleer Football #52 Billy Barnes 1964 Philly Football 123 1971 Topps Game # 12, 50 Bart Starr Set of Two TCMA Boxing Postcards - Willy Pep and Emile Griffith (must take Set of four 1985 TCMA Baseball Photo Classics # 7 12 13 24 (must take all) Wade Boggs B&W Postcard 1960 Fleer 76 1961 Fleer 34 1968 Topps Game #s 1 10 11 14 17 18 20 22 24 26 33 B&W Andy Pafko, slightly smaller than reg. card 1969 Hal Lanier Autographed 1971 Denny Doyle autographed 1969 Topps Story Booklet Reggie 1975 SSPC Ron Bloomburg autographed Baseball LEgens Mike Torrez Autographed 1974 Topps Washington McCovey B&W picture Tommie Aaron size of BB Card 1969 Deckl Aparicio #6 1963 Post/Jello #86 Lumpe 1969 Stampo Album Angels w/ 2/3 of stamps Kahn's Gus Bell B&W lower left corner chewed (through holder) by my dog Gus! Fleer 1971 Pirate Orioles WS card w/ sticker on back 1975 Mini 164 1975 Hostess 32 66 both vg+ 1976 Hostess 8 124 both f/g 1977 Hostess 10 44 Admiral Cigarettes Continental Admiral ================= Date: 21 Feb 2017 22:26:12 +0000 To: Subject: t206 southern leaguer to trade From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:28:12 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: ChicoD1@aol.com Here is one that has my NY riled up. I sent this to the forums and I wrote the seller. Waiting for answers on these: I recently won an auction (132081966701). Waiting 11 days with zero communication. Seller sends a stock note that this transaction has been canceled. "item is out of stock or damaged". From all appearances, it looks as though the seller did not get the price they expected to get for this card. I prefer not to leave negative feedback, but in all my years on Ebay, I have never had a seller cancel a transaction. This just looks fishy. What kind of recourse can I pursue? This was the auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-71-PRINTED-IN-CANADA-OPC-596-MIKE-JORGENSON-MET Damn good deal I'd say... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 19:32:58 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Public service announcement - Trippleplayvintage From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I would contact him. Worth a shot, with nothing to lose... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/19/2017 11:24:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I'd have to think that was in error. I've bought plenty from them and usually they are right on with their grading. Jay Tysver From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 9:45 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Public service announcement - Trippleplayvintage Hi All, Just thought I'd share a warning about buying from a popular seller on Ebay - Trippleplayvintage. I just bought a large lot from him that he advertised as "EX". To say the least, these were not EX (unless you mean this is what cards look like after your Ex gets through with them). Rips, creases, writing, you name it. I guess there were some I would have said were vg (all four corners flaying with some bending but otherwise okay), but the lot was WAY overgraded. I'm not trying to complain. I'm fine with the deal. I'm in OBC - I'm not condition sensitive. But I'd bid on his stuff knowing it is several grades lower than what he claims. ================= Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:35:00 -0800 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: wite3 ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:38:25 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Grant Rainsley I'd try one more message, asking for an explanation....stock answers don't cut it. 100% Feedback, so not a pattern, unless seller has the magic formula for removing them, like some do. If no response, or unsatisfactory, I would neg the seller........and I suspect your guess is right, they thought it went for not enough $$$. On 2017-02-21 4:28 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Here is one that has my NY riled up. I sent this to the forums and I > wrote the seller. Waiting for answers on these: > I recently won an auction (132081966701). Waiting 11 days with zero > communication. Seller sends a stock note that this transaction has > been canceled. "item is out of stock or damaged". From all > appearances, it looks as though the seller did not get the price they > expected to get for this card. I prefer not to leave negative > feedback, but in all my years on Ebay, I have never had a seller > cancel a transaction. This just looks fishy. What kind of recourse can > I pursue? > This was the auction: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-71-PRINTED-IN-CANADA-OPC-596-MIKE-JORGENSON-METS-/132081966701? > Damn good deal I'd say... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 A virtual contact card with my new email address is attached to this message, please update your address book if you wish to stay in touch. ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 01:34:02 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 & 1971 Topps Scratch Offs From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Now TJ, if you are going to do it the OBC OCD way, you need to collect each year scratched and unscratched. All I need is a 71 Stargell scratched to complete that 4-some... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/20/2017 8:21:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hey gang, A few years ago, I realized that I had a combination Topps Scratch Off set. I always knew they had red or white insides, I just didn't know the insides were specific to a year. So, I have been meaning to post these semi additions to the wantlist for a few years. I have the following available if anyone needs/can help out. 1970 - Bosman - writing on front, unscratched 1970 - McCarver - unscratched 1970 Perez - detached half, showing Perez. scratched The following are my wants: 1970 Topps Scratch Off (White inside) Kaline Osteen Powell 1971 Topps Scratch Off (Red Inside) Aaron Aparicio Bando Beckert B osman Colbert Hegan Jones Killebrew McCarver McDowell Perez Pinella Seaver Spencer Stargell Wynn Yaz ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 06:21:48 -0500 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: 63 fleer #53 available From: JDahms ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:41:46 -0500 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 & 1971 Topps Scratch Offs From: Joel Freedman Sal, you should be able to make a 71 scratched! On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:34 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Now TJ, if you are going to do it the OBC OCD way, you need to collect > each year scratched and unscratched. All I need is a 71 Stargell scratched > to complete that 4-some... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/20/2017 8:21:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > Hey gang, > A few years ago, I realized that I had a combination Topps Scratch Off > set. I always knew they had red or white insides, I just didn't know the > insides were specific to a year. So, I have been meaning to post these > semi new additions to the wantlist for a few years. I have the following > available if anyone needs/can help out. > 1970 - Bosman - writing on front, unscratched > 1970 - McCarver - unscratched > 1970 Perez - detached half, showing Perez. scratched > The following are my wants: > 1970 Topps Scratch Off (White inside) > Kaline Osteen Powell > 1971 Topps Scratch Off (Red Inside) > Aaron Aparicio Bando Beckert B osman Colbert Hegan Jones Killebrew > McCarver McDowell Perez Pinella Seaver Spencer Stargell Wynn Yaz > Thanks > TJ ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 05:55:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 & 1971 Topps Scratch Offs From: Rick How about set #5 & #6 front player panels only! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Sal, you should be able to make a 71 scratched! > Joel >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:34 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Now TJ, if you are going to do it the OBC OCD way, you need to collect each year scratched and unscratched. All I need is a 71 Stargell scratched to complete that 4-some... >> Sal Domino >> OBC - 1992 >> In a message dated 2/20/2017 8:21:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> Hey gang, >> A few years ago, I realized that I had a combination Topps Scratch Off set. I always knew they had red or white insides, I just didn't know the insides were specific to a year. So, I have been meaning to post these semi new additions to the wantlist for a few years. I have the following available if anyone needs/can help out. >> 1970 - Bosman - writing on front, unscratched >> 1970 - McCarver - unscratched >> 1970 Perez - detached half, showing Perez. scratched >> The following are my wants: >> 1970 Topps Scratch Off (White inside) >> Kaline Osteen Powell >> 1971 Topps Scratch Off (Red Inside) >> Aaron Aparicio Bando Beckert B osman Colbert Hegan Jones Killebrew McCarver McDowell Perez Pinella Seaver Spencer Stargell Wynn Yaz >> Thanks >> TJ ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:37:01 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCT , Subject: Happy Birthday to Bill Klem and Sparky Anderson! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Happy birthday to Bill Klem and Sparky Anderson! Most of you know by now that I am a HOF Collector, especially RCs. Today Ihad an epiphany when I noticed that today was both Anderson's and Klem's birthday. I thought I'd list the cards I have of each player/umpire/manager/executive, and also what I am looking to get for each member. Hopefully this will help generate more action through the mail. No e-mail tomorrow, however, because no HOFer has a birthday on the 23rd. Today is a little trickier.....but then again it's Honus Wagner's birthday in two days, so we'll see! Lol Why trickier? I already own Sparky's RC and Klem is a tough one. But let's see what happens! SPARKY ANDERSON: I NEED: 1959 Topps upgrade to EX or better (graded perhaps?) 1958 LaPatrie Les Royaux (this is a tough supplement) 1960 Shopsy Frankfurters I HAVE AVAILABLE: 1970 Topps #181 VGEX (w/ pen on back) 1973 Topps #296 VG 1974 Topps #326 VGEX 1978 Topps #401 (3 total...VGEX, NRMT, NRMT) 1983 Topps #666 NRMT BILL KLEM: I NEED: Basically anything of him prior to 1986, however I'm aiming for his1910 M101-2 Sporting News, which I've had before. Love to find it again! He has other cards including 1922 Exhibits, 1934 Diamond Matchbook, and others. I HAVE: NONE!!! I have lots to trade for these needs above, so hopefully someone will come out with a sweet surprise! Thanks, everyone! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:43:10 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: bskp1@aol.com It's happened to me about 4 times. The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to Best regards, ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 07:03:10 -0800 To: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Rick I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's when you get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately. Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund, once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > It's happened to me about 4 times. > The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. > In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. > Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. > You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to say. > Best regards, > Chuck ================= Date: 22 Feb 2017 22:11:09 +0000 To: Subject: Price check if possible From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:41:14 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1973 Topps variations From: Rob Bessette Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the variations? All I could find are things like "orange" and "pale" without much visual confirmation. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Rob Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 02:53:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Bob Reed http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/73/1973-Topps Sent from Outlook From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:41:14 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the variations? All I could find are things like "orange" and "pale" without much visual confirmation. ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:59:34 -0500 To: Bob Reed Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Rob Bessette Yeah. That's the one I was using. I feel like the pictures don't really show pale vs orange. Or are the subtleties that little? The set varies so much in color with the printing of the cards that I'm finding it quite hard to tell on some. > On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Bob Reed wrote: > http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/73/1973-Topps > Sent from Outlook > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 9:41:14 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations > Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the variations? All I could findare things like "orange" and "pale" without much visual confirmation. ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 22:16:15 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I wrote the seller...she said her son spilled his drink on the cards and she had to refund like 6 auctions. I wrote and told her, if the card is still in one piece, I'd still be interested in the card. I mean, a semi hi 71 OPC for a buck? Yeah, all that means is that it will go to GGS for slabbing LOL. I'm waiting for her reply. I think the thing that pissed me off was the stock Ebay answer. If she had emailed me and said, "look the card got damaged, do you still want it?" I would have been fine. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/22/2017 9:43:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: It's happened to me about 4 times. The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to Best regards, ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 22:18:21 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL If you look at my feedback, they all say I am one of the fasted payers. I am usually watching the ones I really want and snipe it manually, in case I get daring and want to go a couple bucks over my final number. As soon as I win, I pay. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/22/2017 10:03:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's when you get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately. Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund, once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. Sent from my iPad On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: It's happened to me about 4 times. The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to Best regards, ================= Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 19:41:15 -0800 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Rick Then I think you can leave negative feedback and then put in to get your money If you got your money back immediately when he cancelled the item I believeyou lost your opportunity to leave feedback. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:18 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > LOL If you look at my feedback, they all say I am one of the fasted payers. I am usually watching the ones I really want and snipe it manually, in case I get daring and want to go a couple bucks over my final number. As soon as I win, I pay. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/22/2017 10:03:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's whenyou get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately.Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund,once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> It's happened to me about 4 times. >> The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. >> In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I acceptedtheir "cannot find the card" explanation. >> Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. >> You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have tosay. >> Best regards, >> Chuck ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 00:00:09 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Certified Dealer candidate - feedback requested From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I see he has made the site. Does he know about OBC-VCS? I see his Ebay site, but he has a lot of stuff too good for my collection. Does he have some off grade that he can post? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 1/15/2017 2:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I will most definitely provide a debrief, but I did tell him there was no rush. But he certainly sounded interested, so I expect his response soon. Report to follow, along with price lists for the =E2=9956 and =E2=9957 lists I sent From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JEdward@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 11:32 AM To: ChicoD1@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Certified Dealer candidate - feedback A trial run is a good idea, in fact Grant is already doing that. I suggest we wait to hear back from Grant. John McLaughlin In a message dated 1/15/2017 2:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) writes: What about if we did a trial run to see what kind of things he would offer? Just give us a taste of what he has for us... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 1/15/2017 12:21:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) writes: I've bought from Ted before (mostly 1952s). Not always the cheapest prices (although usually not that bad) - good guy and no hassles. I'd buy him again if I ever saw something I needed. On Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:11 AM, "_rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]_ (mailto:rjsfgmv@aol.com%20[OBC-Ramblings]) " <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I have bought cards from Orkdoolian on ebay. I think that is who Ted is. I cannot remember just what but I remember the name. I remember thinking I need to really need to make sure buy from this guy again. So, something went really well. Randy Welk In a message dated 1/14/2017 8:57:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) writes: I was encouraged by Tom to post this message in the group since I initially sent it only to him. I have had only some minor dealings with Ted via eBay, but they went well. He was cordial via messages and helpful. He sold me either some 1951 Bowman or 1933 Goudey cards when I was completing sets - not entirely suresince my dealings with him were a while back. Not high-dollar purchases but I bought a few cards from him. And if memory serves me correctly, he even cut me a slight deal on one sale. Not sure if anyone else has dealt with him or had some different On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:18 AM, _directorth@aol.com_ (mailto:directorth@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I received an e-mail from John McLaughlin yesterday; he was contacted by dealer Ted Holden of Ted's Vintage Spportscards in Ada Michigan. Here's the "Ted Holden, owner of Teds Vintage Sportscards asked if I would sponsor him for certified dealer status. Ted sells on ebay under the name Orkdoolian. I have pasted part of his email below. John: I know you have purchased from me before. I would like to join OBC, and perhaps become a certified dealer. Will you be a sponsor and help me. I want to offer some nice discounts to OBC members as I slide into Ted Holden AKA OrkDoolian, Teds Vintage Sportscards " OBC rules state that a Certified Dealer must have 5 member recommendations. Are there any members out there who like to recommend Tedfor CD status? Tom H. ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 21:10:38 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Certified Dealer candidate - feedback requested From: Grant Rainsley Yes, he is aware of the site, and intends to use same when he gets time. I did give him a primer on it, to list lower condition generally, with prices to match tomeet OBC tastes. He seemed to get it.......I don't think he is going to be super active, since he is in retirement mode, and this is just a sideline. I recieved the package I bought from him, all arrived safely and really well stowed, so nothing could happen to the contents, in spite of Canada On 2017-02-22 9:00 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I see he has made the site. Does he know about OBC-VCS? I see his Ebay > site, but he has a lot of stuff too good for my collection. Does he > have some off grade that he can post? > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 1/15/2017 2:56:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > I will most definitely provide a debrief, but I did tell him there > was no rush. But he certainly sounded interested, so I expect his > response soon. Report to follow, along with price lists for the > ’56 and ’57 lists I sent him….. > Grant > *From:*OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of > *JEdward@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Sunday, January 15, 2017 11:32 AM > *To:* ChicoD1@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Certified Dealer candidate - > feedback requested > Sal, > A trial run is a good idea, in fact Grant is already doing that. > I suggest we wait to hear back from Grant. > John McLaughlin > In a message dated 1/15/2017 2:17:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > writes: > What about if we did a trial run to see what kind of things he > would offer? Just give us a taste of what he has for us... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 1/15/2017 12:21:49 P.M. Eastern Standard > Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > writes: > Hi, > I've bought from Ted before (mostly 1952s). Not always > the cheapest prices (although usually not that bad) - > good guy and no hassles. I'd buy from him again if I ever > saw something I needed. > Cheers, > Patrick > On Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:11 AM, "rjsfgmv@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > " > > wrote: > I have bought cards from Orkdoolian on ebay. I think that > is who Ted is. I cannot remember just what but I remember > the name. I remember thinking I need to really need to > make sure buy from this guy again. So, something went > really well. > Randy Welk > In a message dated 1/14/2017 8:57:05 A.M. Pacific Standard > Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > writes: > I was encouraged by Tom to post this message in the > group since I initially sent it only to him. > I have had only some minor dealings with Ted via eBay, > but they went well. He was cordial via messages and > helpful. He sold me either some 1951 Bowman or 1933 > Goudey cards when I was completing sets - not entirely > sure since my dealings with him were a while back. Not > high-dollar purchases but I bought a few cards from > him. And if memory serves me correctly, he even cut me > a slight deal on one sale. > Not sure if anyone else has dealt with him or had some > different experiences. > Anson > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:18 AM, directorth@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > > wrote: > I received an e-mail from John McLaughlin yesterday; > he was contacted by dealer Ted Holden of Ted's Vintage > Spportscards in Ada Michigan. Here's the message: > "Ted Holden, owner of Teds Vintage Sportscards asked > if I would sponsor him for certified dealer status. > Ted sells on ebay under the name Orkdoolian. I have > pasted part of his email below. > *John: I know you have purchased from me before. > I would like to join OBC, and perhaps become a > certified dealer. Will you be a sponsor and help me. > I want to offer some nice discounts to OBC members as > I slide into retirement.* > *Ted Holden* > *AKA OrkDoolian, Teds Vintage Sportscards* " > OBC rules state that a Certified Dealer must have 5 > member recommendations. Are there any members out > there who like to recommend Ted for CD status? > Thanks! > Tom H. A virtual contact card with my new email address is attached to this message, please update your address book if you wish to stay in touch. ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 05:59:01 +0000 Subject: Fleer February update From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys I added the lists mentioned tonight by Kevin, Ken and Sal to the main FleerFebruary spreadsheet. Just so we can all take a crack at them together! Meanwhile, there's less than a week left in Fleer February. Link is below. Ifyou have stuff you want to list, let me know or cut and paste it in there yourself. Give it a whirl! Then if you have some stuff for someone else's list you can delete the numbers you're sending. Please note the four TABS atthe bottom of the spreadsheet so you can navigate through the different sections of the wantlists. Judging from the amount of comments going around about Fleer February, it seems to be going well. Thanks everyone for your participation. If you have any questions, I would LOVE to help. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Qz3U8DV_VablgR5ZPjogqx_uvPu32ZlUpobef5pKkeQ/edit?uspsharing ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:08:11 -0500 To: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Joel Freedman Hi Rob, here is a comprehensive list of variations for 1973 Topps. 1973 Topps Base Set - There are 35 known variations in this set. 12A Don Zimmer Padres Orange, Podres missing ears True 12B Don Zimmer Padres Orange, Podres has ears True 12C Don Zimmer Padres Brown, Podres Missing right ear True 12D Don Zimmer Padres Brown, Podres has right ear True 20A Stan Bahnsen White Sox No gap in left border True 20B Stan Bahnsen White Sox Small gap in left border True 31A Buddy Bell Indians No gap in right border True 31B Buddy Bell Indians Small gap in right border True 49A Frank Quilici Twins Orange, solid background True 49B Frank Quilici Twins Brown, with trees, Morgan has right ear True 49C Frank Quilici Twins Brown, with trees, Morgan missing right ear True 81A Whitey Lockman Cubs Orange, solid background True 81B Whitey Lockman Cubs Brown, Trees in background True 81C Whitey Lockman Cubs Orange, Trees in background (NPD) True 96A Doug Griffin Red Sox No green line behind right leg True 96B Doug Griffin Red Sox Green line behind leg, BASE partially obscured 116A Ralph Houk Yankees Brown, natural background True 116B Ralph Houk Yankees Orange, solid background True 131A Eddie Kasko Red Sox Brown, solid background, Lenhardt has right ear 131B Eddie Kasko Red Sox Orange, solid background, Lenhardt no right ear 136A Earl Weaver Orioles Orange, solid background True 136B Earl Weaver Orioles Brown, solid background True 179A Dick Williams Athletics Orange, Noren & Hoscheit without their left ears True 179B Dick Williams Athletics Orange, Noren & Hoscheit with their left ears True 179C Dick Williams Athletics Orange, Stock has white spot over cap logo 179D Dick Williams Athletics Brown, natural background True 201A George Hendrick Athletics white baseball on front (NPD) False 201B George Hendrick Athletics yellow baseball on front False 237A Eddie Mathews Braves Orange, solid background, Busby with right ear 237B Eddie Mathews Braves Brown, solid background True 237C Eddie Mathews Braves Orange, solid background, Busby without right ear True 252A Charlie Fox Giants Orange, solid background True 252B Charlie Fox Giants Brown, solid background True 257A Yogi Berra Mets llight Orange solid background, Yost hat brim fully visible True 257B Yogi Berra Mets Brown, natural background True 257C Yogi Berra Mets llight Orange solid background, Yost hat brim partially cut off True 323A Billy Martin Tigers Dark orange background True 323B Billy Martin Tigers Light orange background True 377A Gene Mauch Expos Dark orange background True 377B Gene Mauch Expos Light orange background True 393A Jose Cardenal Cubs No red spot on cap True 393B Jose Cardenal Cubs Red blob on cap True 417A Scipio Spinks Cardinals No gap in top border True 417B Scipio Spinks Cardinals Gap in top border True 417C Scipio Spinks Cardinals Gap in top, left and right borders True 421A Bobby Winkles Angels Orange, solid background True 421B Bobby Winkles Angels Brown, natural background True 428A Wayne Simpson Athletics no gap in top, left and right borders True 428B Wayne Simpson Athletics gap in top, left and right borders True 449A Ken Aspromonte Indians Orange, Spahn ear pointed True 449B Ken Aspromonte Indians Brown, Spahns ear round True 486A Danny Ozark Phillies Orange, solid background True 486B Danny Ozark Phillies Brown, natural background True 486C Danny Ozark Phillies Orange, solid background, break top/bottom border True 497A Red Schoendienst Cardinals Orange, solid background True 497B Red Schoendienst Cardinals Brown, solid background True 504A Earl Williams Orioles break in lower right and left border True 504B Earl Williams Orioles no break in lower right and left border True 517A Bill Virdon Pirates Orange, solid background, Mazeroski no right ear True 517B Bill Virdon Pirates Brown, natural background, Mazeroski has right ear True 526A Ollie Brown Braves break in the lower left border True 526B Ollie Brown Braves no break in the lower left border True Base cards Confirmed Variations Unconfirmed Variations Last Updated Cards in Master Set 660 35 2 10/15/2006 695 --page break-- On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the variations? All I could find > are things like "orange" and "pale" without much visual confirmation. ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:42:34 -0500 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Rob Bessette Thanks Joel! This is great. Not sure if I want to go down this road or not,but at least we have a solid list. > On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Rob, here is a comprehensive list of variations for 1973 Topps. > 1973 Topps Base Set - There are 35 known variations in this set. > 12A Don Zimmer Padres Orange, Podres missing ears True > 12B Don Zimmer Padres Orange, Podres has ears True > 12C Don Zimmer Padres Brown, Podres Missing right ear True > 12D Don Zimmer Padres Brown, Podres has right ear True > 20A Stan Bahnsen White Sox No gap in left border True > 20B Stan Bahnsen White Sox Small gap in left border True > 31A Buddy Bell Indians No gap in right border True > 31B Buddy Bell Indians Small gap in right border True > 49A Frank Quilici Twins Orange, solid background True > 49B Frank Quilici Twins Brown, with trees, Morgan has right ear True > 49C Frank Quilici Twins Brown, with trees, Morgan missing right ear True > 81A Whitey Lockman Cubs Orange, solid background True > 81B Whitey Lockman Cubs Brown, Trees in background True > 81C Whitey Lockman Cubs Orange, Trees in background (NPD) True > 96A Doug Griffin Red Sox No green line behind right leg True > 96B Doug Griffin Red Sox Green line behind leg, BASE partially obscured > 116A Ralph Houk Yankees Brown, natural background True > 116B Ralph Houk Yankees Orange, solid background True > 131A Eddie Kasko Red Sox Brown, solid background, Lenhardt has right ear > 131B Eddie Kasko Red Sox Orange, solid background, Lenhardt no right ear > 136A Earl Weaver Orioles Orange, solid background True > 136B Earl Weaver Orioles Brown, solid background True > 179A Dick Williams Athletics Orange, Noren & Hoscheit without their left ears True > 179B Dick Williams Athletics Orange, Noren & Hoscheit with their left ears > 179C Dick Williams Athletics Orange, Stock has white spot over cap logo > 179D Dick Williams Athletics Brown, natural background True > 201A George Hendrick Athletics white baseball on front (NPD) False > 201B George Hendrick Athletics yellow baseball on front False > 237A Eddie Mathews Braves Orange, solid background, Busby with right ear > 237B Eddie Mathews Braves Brown, solid background True > 237C Eddie Mathews Braves Orange, solid background, Busby without right ear True > 252A Charlie Fox Giants Orange, solid background True > 252B Charlie Fox Giants Brown, solid background True > 257A Yogi Berra Mets llight Orange solid background, Yost hat brim fully visible True > 257B Yogi Berra Mets Brown, natural background True > 257C Yogi Berra Mets llight Orange solid background, Yost hat brim partially cut off True > 323A Billy Martin Tigers Dark orange background True > 323B Billy Martin Tigers Light orange background True > 377A Gene Mauch Expos Dark orange background True > 377B Gene Mauch Expos Light orange background True > 393A Jose Cardenal Cubs No red spot on cap True > 393B Jose Cardenal Cubs Red blob on cap True > 417A Scipio Spinks Cardinals No gap in top border True > 417B Scipio Spinks Cardinals Gap in top border True > 417C Scipio Spinks Cardinals Gap in top, left and right borders True > 421A Bobby Winkles Angels Orange, solid background True > 421B Bobby Winkles Angels Brown, natural background True > 428A Wayne Simpson Athletics no gap in top, left and right borders True > 428B Wayne Simpson Athletics gap in top, left and right borders True > 449A Ken Aspromonte Indians Orange, Spahn ear pointed True > 449B Ken Aspromonte Indians Brown, Spahns ear round True > 486A Danny Ozark Phillies Orange, solid background True > 486B Danny Ozark Phillies Brown, natural background True > 486C Danny Ozark Phillies Orange, solid background, break top/bottom border > 497A Red Schoendienst Cardinals Orange, solid background True > 497B Red Schoendienst Cardinals Brown, solid background True > 504A Earl Williams Orioles break in lower right and left border True > 504B Earl Williams Orioles no break in lower right and left border True > 517A Bill Virdon Pirates Orange, solid background, Mazeroski no right ear > 517B Bill Virdon Pirates Brown, natural background, Mazeroski has right ear True > 526A Ollie Brown Braves break in the lower left border True > 526B Ollie Brown Braves no break in the lower left border True > Base cards Confirmed Variations Unconfirmed Variations Last Updated Cardsin Master Set > 660 35 2 10/15/2006 695 > --page break-- >> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the variations? All I could find are things like "orange" and "pale" without much visual confirmation. ================= To: Rob Bessette , Joel Freedman Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 14:56:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:02:15 +0000 (UTC) To: Taylor Schock , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Rob Bessette That is my biggest problem with the manager cards.. Brown, lightorange,dark orange with no blatant differences in cropping, picture, etc. The set varies in print color so much that I almost have a hard time justifying some of these as variations. I have see a couple pics of the Kaline band aid. Never seen it in person, but I'm pretty sure it's legit. On Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:56 AM, Taylor Schock #yiv3214455129 #yiv3214455129 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv3214455129 Actually, this is not a complete list, but it's a GREAT start! 20 Bahnsen has (at least) 2 different size border breaks 31 Bell has (at least) 2 different size border breaks 175 Frank Robinson has a border break at the top variation as well (though this seems more of a white print 'spot' on the border, but then there are print spot defects on this list as well)296 Sparky Anderson has a brown vs orange as well (some on this list have this as the ONLY difference, so Sparky should be in there too)252 Charlie Fox has 3 distinct colors (brown, light orange, dark orange)The manager cards are somewhat problematic as there can be wide differing in the colors (with NO other noticeable differences) yet some are variations while others are not. I'm also not sure what qualifies as "natural" background when the "brown" copies I have (where it indicates "natural" on this list) are no different than the "orange" ones, which are listed as "solid" (unless that means "righteous")And now the biggie... 280 Al Kaline. There is a 'band-aid' version where he has a band-aid on his forehead. I've seen photos of it but have not found one. While the photos could be a hoax, I don't have any reason to doubt the person who provided the From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:08 AM To: Rob Bessette Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variationsHi Rob, here is a comprehensive list of variations for 1973 Topps. 1973 Topps Base Set - There are 35 known variations in this set.12ADon Zimmer PadresOrange, Podres missing ears True 12BDon Zimmer PadresOrange, Podres has ears True 12CDon Zimmer PadresBrown, Podres Missing right ear True12DDon Zimmer PadresBrown, Podres has right ear True 20AStan Bahnsen White SoxNo gap in left border True 20BStan Bahnsen White SoxSmall gap in left border True 31ABuddy Bell IndiansNo gap in right border True 31BBuddy Bell IndiansSmall gap in right border True 49AFrank Quilici TwinsOrange, solid background True 49BFrank Quilici TwinsBrown, with trees, Morgan has right ear True49CFrank Quilici TwinsBrown, with trees, Morgan missing right ear True81AWhitey Lockman CubsOrange, solid background True 81BWhitey Lockman CubsBrown, Trees in background True 81CWhitey Lockman CubsOrange, Trees in background (NPD) True96ADoug Griffin RedSoxNo green line behind right leg True 96BDoug Griffin Red SoxGreen line behind leg, BASE partially obscured True116ARalph Houk YankeesBrown, natural background True 116BRalph Houk YankeesOrange, solid background True 131AEddie Kasko Red SoxBrown, solid background, Lenhardt has right ear True131BEddie Kasko Red SoxOrange, solid background, Lenhardtno right ear True136AEarl Weaver OriolesOrange, solid background True 136BEarl Weaver OriolesBrown, solid background True 179ADick Williams AthleticsOrange, Noren & Hoscheit without their left ears True179BDick Williams AthleticsOrange, Noren & Hoscheit with their left ears True179CDick Williams AthleticsOrange, Stock has white spot over cap logo True179DDick Williams AthleticsBrown, natural background True 201AGeorge Hendrick Athleticswhite baseball on front (NPD) False 201BGeorge Hendrick Athleticsyellow baseball on front False 237AEddie Mathews BravesOrange, solid background, Busby with right ear True237BEddie Mathews BravesBrown, solid background True 237CEddie Mathews BravesOrange, solid background, Busby without right ear True252ACharlie Fox GiantsOrange, solid background True 252BCharlie Fox GiantsBrown, solid background True 257AYogi Berra Metsllight Orange solid background, Yost hat brim fully visible True257BYogi Berra MetsBrown, natural background True 257CYogiBerra Metsllight Orange solid background, Yost hat brim partially cut off True323ABilly Martin TigersDark orange background True 323BBilly Martin TigersLight orange background True 377AGene Mauch ExposDark orange background True 377BGene Mauch ExposLight orange background True 393AJose Cardenal CubsNo red spot on cap True 393BJose Cardenal CubsRed blob on cap True 417AScipio Spinks CardinalsNo gap in top border True 417BScipio Spinks CardinalsGap in top border True 417CScipio Spinks CardinalsGap in top, left and right borders True421ABobby Winkles AngelsOrange, solid background True 421BBobby Winkles AngelsBrown, natural background True 428AWayne Simpson Athleticsno gap in top, left and right borders True428BWayne Simpson Athleticsgap in top, left and right borders True449AKen Aspromonte IndiansOrange, Spahn ear pointed True 449BKen Aspromonte IndiansBrown, Spahns ear round True 486ADanny Ozark PhilliesOrange, solid background True 486BDanny Ozark PhilliesBrown, natural background True 486CDanny Ozark PhilliesOrange, solid background, break top/bottom border True497ARed Schoendienst CardinalsOrange, solid background True 497BRed Schoendienst CardinalsBrown, solid background True 504AEarl Williams Oriolesbreak in lower right and left border True504BEarl Williams Oriolesno break in lower right and left border True517ABill Virdon PiratesOrange, solid background, Mazeroski no right ear True517BBill Virdon PiratesBrown, natural background, Mazeroski has right ear True526AOllie Brown Bravesbreak in the lower left border True 526BOllieBrown Bravesno break in the lower left border TrueBase cards Confirmed Variations Unconfirmed Variations Last Updated Cards in Master Set660 35 2 10/15/2006 695--page break-- On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Does anyone have a comprehensive list of the variations? All I could find are things like "orange" and "pale" without much visual confirmation. ================= Date: 23 Feb 2017 15:09:44 +0000 To: Subject: Greetings from the newest new guy From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= To: Joel Freedman , Rob Bessette Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:16:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Taylor Schock ================= To: Taylor Schock , Joel Freedman Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:24:09 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:25:36 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:07:58 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: "Samuel E. Taylor" I have two copies of the Kaline band-aid version, and have been hoping to hoard these ever since I found the first one. It is really obvious as the band-aid actually is two band-aids in an "x" on his forehead, just under the cap. The "natural" background means that there are trees and misc. spring training scenery in the background of the coaches' pictures. There is also a color difference on some of them, but the background version is obvious when you see it. Sam Taylor ================= To: Joel Freedman , Rob Bessette Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:39:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Taylor Schock ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Ken M Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:41:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations [1 Attachment] From: Taylor Schock ================= To: OBC Ramblings , "Samuel E. Taylor" Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 16:00:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:14:27 -0600 To: "Samuel E. Taylor" , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1973 Topps variations From: mzentko ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:16:11 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Topps Variations From: Joel Freedman Where is the most comprehensive list of variations kept? ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 11:20:33 -0500 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Variations From: Jimi Thayer Probably in Richard Dingman's back pocket! :) Check his website! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Where is the most comprehensive list of variations kept? ================= To: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 10:22:50 -0600 Subject: Re: 1973 Topps variations From: "George Vrechek" A "comprehensive" list is not an easy task. Dick Gilkeson put together a list for his 1989 book, that several of us have. Planning has started for Dick, Mike Cady and me to draft up a new "updated" version of all post 1948 variations. One of the first items of discussion is what to do with printing differences. Some of the problems with coaches cards may be printing The 1973 set has a slew of border breaks that take up a good page of notations (and cards) that I have. The set also has several cards with logos having breaks eg pitcher's leg. I think the decision is likely to be to forget them as to including them in a book of variations. However, in addition to the coaches, border and logo breaks, there are a lot of other (somewhat) interesting differences that collectors have noticed. I haven't scrutinized all the responses to the initial question, but I have the following on my lists. I have most of these cards. These have been noticed since they aren't one-off events but can be found in decent frequencies. The Kaline and checklists are likely the only cards that are true variations in this list as opposed to printing differences. Cardenal's red hat blotches jump out at you, but are still just printing differences. I think it is remarkable that the Kaline band-aid just came to light within the past few years to my knowledge. 32 Norman - brown or yellow dirt 48 Splittorf - streak in the grass 86 McGraw - blob under chin 96 Griffin - streak in grass 98 Woodson- red blotches 124 Hardin - 5 versions of a leaf in the grass 180 Jenkins - border problem 253 Belanger - red tint 280 Kaline - band aid on forehead or partially airbrushed or completely 297 Williams green or yellow in field 323 Tigers - dark or light orange 329 Kranepool - green, yellow or light yellow in grass 379 Acosta - red or orange circle 393 Cardenal - large red blotch on hat in varying degrees 422 Robertson - green dots 435 Carty - yellow in inset 452 Casanova - yellow in grass 463 Tatum slash on arm 485 Cash - red on face and dirt -(as well as border breaks or not) 528 Blair - white speck on face Checklists one or two **s George Vrechek ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:02:37 +0000 Subject: what's next? From: Aaron Shirley February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider success. But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis,but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... Anyway, I said all that to say this. 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) 5) Then Non-Sport November! Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. OBC is the best. ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:15:08 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Ken M I honestly thought we were going to have to wait until OPeeChee October.  Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Feb 23, 2017 12:02 PMTo: OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] what's next? February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider success. But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... Anyway, I said all that to say this. 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello July?) 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) 5) Then Non-Sport November! Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. OBC is the best. ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Aaron Shirley Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:21:04 +0000 Subject: Re: what's next? From: Shawn Smart March Madness (Basketball)? Milton Bradley March? Sorry work is slow today :) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:02 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider success. But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis,but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... Anyway, I said all that to say this. 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) 5) Then Non-Sport November! Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. OBC is the best. ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:45:05 -0500 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Yahoo Mangled march. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:02, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and nowFleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider success. > But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do thisright, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. > But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... > Anyway, I said all that to say this. > 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! > 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. > 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello > 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) > 5) Then Non-Sport November! > Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). > And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't justmy gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. > OBC is the best. > Aaron ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:59:16 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Rick Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Rick wrote: > I like this one all the tiptons you haven't been able to give away or ones you have upgraded and now need to pass along. Instead of posting wantlists we post a list of misfit soldiers we can't find homes for. If it worked for Santa and Rudolf > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Mangled march. >> Jerry Barnes >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:02, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts ofmostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a widersuccess. >>> But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested wecould do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. >>> But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... >>> Anyway, I said all that to say this. >>> 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! >>> 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. >>> 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello >>> 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) >>> 5) Then Non-Sport November! >>> Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). >>> And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. >>> OBC is the best. >>> Aaron ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:55:52 -0500 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Yahoo Rick for mayor!. Lol. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:59, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Rick wrote: >> I like this one all the tiptons you haven't been able to give away or ones you have upgraded and now need to pass along. Instead of posting wantlists we post a list of misfit soldiers we can't find homes for. If it worked for Santa and Rudolf >> Sent from my iPad >>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Mangled march. >>> Jerry Barnes >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:02, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider >>>> But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller thanthe standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. >>>> But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to reallyfit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... >>>> Anyway, I said all that to say this. >>>> 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! >>>> 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. >>>> 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey,Jello >>>> 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) >>>> 5) Then Non-Sport November! >>>> Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). >>>> And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. >>>> OBC is the best. >>>> Aaron ================= To: Rick Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:30:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 14:30:52 -0500 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Joel Freedman who is running the march madness card pool? Bob Reed? On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:30 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I do like March Madness > Jay Tysver > On Feb 23, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Rick wrote: > I like this one all the tiptons you haven't been able to give away or ones > you have upgraded and now need to pass along. Instead of posting wantlists > we post a list of misfit soldiers we can't find homes for. If it worked for > Santa and Rudolf > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:45 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Mangled march. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:02, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on > the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of > mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and > now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a > wider success. > But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this > right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we > could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than > the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 > Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a > WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so > many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. > But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm > leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to > really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and > hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could > involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, > something which involves a good amount of vintage range... > Anyway, I said all that to say this. > * 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) > Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will > probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off* (or, hey, Jello July?) > * 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September *(or should it be > sixties?) > * 5) Then Non-Sport November! *Giving everyone fair notice NOW so > everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and > a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, > the thing which takes the most time). > And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just > my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. > OBC is the best. > Aaron ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Aaron Shirley Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:37:22 +0000 Subject: Re: what's next? From: Taylor Schock If we did March Madness, would that be for all the Al Hrabosky collectors? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:02 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider success. But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis,but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... Anyway, I said all that to say this. 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) 5) Then Non-Sport November! Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. OBC is the best. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:48:22 +0000 Subject: Re: 1973 Topps variations From: Taylor Schock I think I might start a "50 Shades of Joe" (Almalfitano) collection. [20170223_101937.jpg] [1973-175-variation.jpg] [1973-517-variation.jpg] [1973-252-variation.jpg] Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 20:22:30 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1973 Topps variations [1 Attachment] From: Aaron Shirley Hey, I've added a Facebook thread with all the 1973 Topps variations I can come up with. So far we've got pics for 12 Don Zimmer, 49 Frank Quilici, 131 Eddie Kasko, 175 Frank Robinson, 237 Eddie Mathews, 252 Charlie Fox, 280 Al Kaline, 421 Bobby Winkles, 517 Bill Virdon, 526 Ollie Brown. You can check it out on Facebook. If you're not part of the OBC Facebook page yet, now's as good a chance as ever to join us. https://www.facebook.com/groups/oldbaseballcards/ ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 16:17:11 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Help needed on odd and non-baseball From: biggies@aol.com A friend's brother has passed and he has given me his brother's collection. I want to tell him what he has and essentially what it is worth. I don't think he wants to sell it but I do want to help him understand what he has. The general baseball stuff I can handle. I need help with: Football, mid 60's I think, will determine. Beatles: Beatles Diary and Beatles Movie Beverly Hill Billies Western Television Shows, 1958 maybe? Topps Battle Cards, #3 is "Execution at Dawn" Anyone that can help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 16:41:11 -0500 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: what's next? From: ShoelessWes I like march madness Basketball Wes Shepard > On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > March Madness (Basketball)? > Milton Bradley March? > Sorry work is slow today :) > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:02 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? > February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and nowFleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider success. > But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do thisright, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. > But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really fit the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy dupe sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... > Anyway, I said all that to say this. > 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! > 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. > 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello > 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be sixties?) > 5) Then Non-Sport November! > Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). > And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't justmy gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. > OBC is the best. > Aaron ================= To: ShoelessWes , Shawn Smart , Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:10:52 +0000 Subject: what's next? From: Aaron Shirley March Madness is a real possibility - for basketball cards only. 1) How many of you actually collect Basketball cards? It only took me like three minutes to move the basketball portion of Fleer February into a new spreadsheet. It includes a few lists from Mike Glasser, Shawn Smart, John Stamper, Mark Talbot, Jay Tysver & TJ Valacak. Who else would want to be a part of this? 2) Would you all like to do basketball? 3) Could you have those wantlists and dupes ready for March? I'm game if you are. ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 17:45:56 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Ken M I originally wasn't going to chime in on this thread because I can't recall ever getting a transaction cancelled. I recently did have an experience where I put in an offer on a group of Hostess cards and the seller informed me that he couldn't find the cards pictured in the lot. It was one of those "All cards scanned. You get exactly what you bid on." deals. Well, the guy said he could put together a lot of similar size and quality (42 cards in lower grade) for the same price if I was up for it. I paid him what amounted to 3/$1 dlvd. on the lot. A couple weeks go by and no word, so I email him and he has totally forgotten about it, but offers to put something together by the next day at the latest. He ended up sending me closer to 70-80 cards for my offer including about a dozen HOF'ers in the mix. Not bad for 20 cents per card.  Th en today I got my first cancellation notice and refund. This time I was getting almost 90 glossy 1977 OPC hockey inserts with at least two compl ete sets (and maybe 2 more missing just LaFleur). Seller had it listed BIN @$15 obo, so I put in a $10 offer plus $5 shipping. He took my offer (and didn't have it listed for a whole bunch of money anyway), so it wasn't like I won an auction too cheaply for it. Still kinda disappointing though. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:37:57 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Variations From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en If anyone needs this... I do have to do a little updating (add names and such), but it's pretty close based on the bible... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2017 11:16:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Where is the most comprehensive list of variations kept? ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:39:56 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL so did I... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2017 12:15:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I honestly thought we were going to have to wait until OPeeChee October. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: Aaron Shirley_ uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:%20uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Feb 23, 2017 12:02 PM To: OBC Ramblings; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] what's next? February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... Anyway, I said all that to say this. 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello July?) 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be 5) Then Non-Sport November! Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. OBC is the best. ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 00:40:10 +0000 To: Aaron Shirley , Jay Tysver , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? From: Joel Freedman Yes basketball https://sites.google.com/site/jefreedman1/basketball Sent from my iPhone On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:10 PM Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > March Madness is a real possibility - for basketball cards only. > 1) How many of you actually collect Basketball cards? It only took me like > three minutes to move the basketball portion of Fleer February into a new > spreadsheet. It includes a few lists from Mike Glasser, Shawn Smart, John > Stamper, Mark Talbot, Jay Tysver & TJ Valacak. Who else would want to be a > part of this? > 2) Would you all like to do basketball? > 3) Could you have those wantlists and dupes ready for March? > I'm game if you are. > Aaron ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:40:46 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: what's next? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I like both of those ideas! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2017 12:21:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: March Madness (Basketball)? Milton Bradley March? Sorry work is slow today :) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 12:02 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] what's next? February is almost over. And I've been thinking about what to do next on the "coordinating" project. We did Donruss December, and large amounts of mostly early-UV-era stuff exchanged hands. Then we took a month off, and now Fleer February. It's been super-fun for me! Seems like it's been a wider But I skipped a month for good reason - we gotta take our time to do this right, and not leave people behind. Folks are busy. Someone suggested we could do MINI MARCH, and I love that idea. Include ANY cards smaller than the standard 2.5x3.5 size. Of course that would include the obvious 1975 Minis, but if you think for thirty seconds about it, it would also mean a WILD variety of stuff, from T206 to Hostess to Bowman to Kelloggs to... so many possibilities. And I think that would be awesome. But what I'd really like to do is look forward to April instead. I'm leaning toward calling it "Opening Day O-Pee-Chee" since OPC seems to really the bill on so many levels: something which involves (and hopefully excites) a lot of guys in the group, something which could involve some easy sharing, something which includes other sports, something which involves a good amount of vintage range... Anyway, I said all that to say this. 1) Nothing in March. Continue working Fleer February for a while! 2) Prepare yourselves for OPENING DAY O-PEE-CHEE, coming April 2nd. 3) We will probably also do MINI MAY and take the summer off (or, hey, Jello July?) 4) The next idea I'm sold on is Seventies September (or should it be 5) Then Non-Sport November! Giving everyone fair notice NOW so everyone has plenty of time to get whatever lists they have up-to-date, and a chance to gather all your unsorted dupes into one place (this is, for me, the thing which takes the most time). And seriously, I'm always open to suggestions. After all, this isn't just my gig. I'm just trying to create things everyone's gonna enjoy. OBC is the best. ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:53:25 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help needed on odd and non-baseball From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LaShelle Denning just completed her 1958 TV and Westerns... They may be able to help. The McQueen card is the toughest in the set due to demand. I was trying to find one to kill that set for her for months. Glad someone got it for her. Beatles stuff, best bet Ebay, as they are flooded with Beatle cards. Condition runs prices from 1-5 bucks for many of them. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2017 4:17:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: A friend's brother has passed and he has given me his brother's collection. I want to tell him what he has and essentially what it is worth. I don't think he wants to sell it but I do want to help him understand what he has. The general baseball stuff I can handle. I need help with: Football, mid 60's I think, will determine. Beatles: Beatles Diary and Beatles Movie Beverly Hill Billies Western Television Shows, 1958 maybe? Topps Battle Cards, #3 is "Execution at Dawn" Anyone that can help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob Bannon ================= Date: 24 Feb 2017 01:40:44 +0000 To: Subject: Progress on the $25 set From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: "JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:41:50 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Progress on the $25 set From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 20:50:18 -0500 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en I negotiated a $4 price for a BIN $6.50 or Best Offer on a Fleer Ted Williams card. I paid and the Seller cancelled. He said he could not find the card. I accepted his explanation since he has a good track record on EBay. Just now, I looked and found he has relisted it for $9.99 BIN. I called EBay who were not very concerned by it until I pressed them on it. It seems that a Seller has to establish a pattern of this sort of behavior at which point EBay will suspend him. I have just sent a message to the Seller asking what is going on. Best regards, In a message dated 02/22/2017 10:03:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com writes: I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's when you get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately. Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund, once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. Sent from my iPad On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: It's happened to me about 4 times. The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to Best regards, ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 20:58:09 -0500 To: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: "Thomas W. Billing" Perhaps we should know who this seller is, in case we ever deal with him. Sorry about your bad experience. Tom Billing > On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:50 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I negotiated a $4 price for a BIN $6.50 or Best Offer on a Fleer Ted Williams card. I paid and the Seller cancelled. He said he could not find the card. I accepted his explanation since he has a good track record on EBay. > Just now, I looked and found he has relisted it for $9.99 BIN. > I called EBay who were not very concerned by it until I pressed them on it. It seems that a Seller has to establish a pattern of this sort of behavior at which point EBay will suspend him. > I have just sent a message to the Seller asking what is going on. > Best regards, > Chuck > In a message dated 02/22/2017 10:03:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com writes: > I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's whenyou get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately.Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund,once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> It's happened to me about 4 times. >> The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. >> In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I acceptedtheir "cannot find the card" explanation. >> Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. >> You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have tosay. >> Best regards, >> Chuck ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:29:44 -0500 To: billingtw@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en I sent him the following message: "I see that you have relisted it for $9.99 BIN. This is very unethical. What are you doing?" He replied: "I did not re list it. Not sure how that may have happened as I still have not found the card. Only thing I can think of is when I cancelled order, it re-listed automatically. I will be taking it off. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I still have your name on my desk in case I do find it. I'm thinking It's a case of ineptitude, not dishonesty. On the other hand, if it was automatically relisted, why did the price go up from $6.50 to Best regards, In a message dated 02/23/2017 8:58:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, billingtw@sbcglobal.net writes: Perhaps we should know who this seller is, in case we ever deal with him. Sorry about your bad experience. Tom Billing On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:50 PM, _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I negotiated a $4 price for a BIN $6.50 or Best Offer on a Fleer Ted Williams card. I paid and the Seller cancelled. He said he could not find the card. I accepted his explanation since he has a good track record on EBay. Just now, I looked and found he has relisted it for $9.99 BIN. I called EBay who were not very concerned by it until I pressed them on it. It seems that a Seller has to establish a pattern of this sort of behavior at which point EBay will suspend him. I have just sent a message to the Seller asking what is going on. Best regards, In a message dated 02/22/2017 10:03:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _rick.lyons22@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com) writes: I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's when you get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately. Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund, once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. Sent from my iPad On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, _bskp1@aol.com_ (mailto:bskp1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: It's happened to me about 4 times. The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to Best regards, ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:40:36 -0500 To: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Jimi Thayer The price change could be due to the fact that the card may have been on a discount rate, but when it was relisted, the discount time period had past,and the original price was assigned automatically. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:29 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I sent him the following message: > "I see that you have relisted it for $9.99 BIN. This is very unethical. What are you doing?" > He replied: > "I did not re list it. Not sure how that may have happened as I still have not found the card. Only thing I can think of is when I cancelled order, it re-listed automatically. I will be taking it off. Thanks for bringing itto my attention. I still have your name on my desk in case I do find it. Dan" > I'm thinking It's a case of ineptitude, not dishonesty. On the other hand, if it was automatically relisted, why did the price go up from $6.50 to $9.99? > Best regards, > Chuck > In a message dated 02/23/2017 8:58:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, billingtw@sbcglobal.net > Perhaps we should know who this seller is, in case we ever deal with him.Sorry about your bad experience. > Tom Billing >> On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:50 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I negotiated a $4 price for a BIN $6.50 or Best Offer on a Fleer Ted Williams card. I paid and the Seller cancelled. He said he could not find the card. I accepted his explanation since he has a good track record on EBay. >> Just now, I looked and found he has relisted it for $9.99 BIN. >> I called EBay who were not very concerned by it until I pressed them on it. It seems that a Seller has to establish a pattern of this sort of behavior at which point EBay will suspend him. >> I have just sent a message to the Seller asking what is going on. >> Best regards, >> Chuck >> In a message dated 02/22/2017 10:03:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com >> I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's when you get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels itbefore you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately. Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund, once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. >> Sent from my iPad >>> On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> It's happened to me about 4 times. >>> The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kicked him out. >>> In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. >>> Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. >>> You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to >>> Best regards, >>> Chuck ================= To: "bskp1@aol.com" , Jimi Thayer Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:10:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Taylor Schock ... or it came up with a list of other things that he was working on or didn't sell and he 'bulk' relisted it without knowing. Sometimes it's difficult to know exactly how ebay's selling interface works. I still haven't figured out with 100% certainty how to list for international shipping costs, as I've had offers for the same item from the UK and now Australia. It's probably something obvious but easily overlooked as well. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:40 PM To: bskp1@aol.com Cc: billingtw@sbcglobal.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style The price change could be due to the fact that the card may have been on a discount rate, but when it was relisted, the discount time period had past,and the original price was assigned automatically. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2017, at 9:29 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I sent him the following message: "I see that you have relisted it for $9.99 BIN. This is very unethical. What are you doing?" He replied: "I did not re list it. Not sure how that may have happened as I still have not found the card. Only thing I can think of is when I cancelled order, itre-listed automatically. I will be taking it off. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I still have your name on my desk in case I do find it. Dan" I'm thinking It's a case of ineptitude, not dishonesty. On the other hand, if it was automatically relisted, why did the price go up from $6.50 to $9.99? Best regards, In a message dated 02/23/2017 8:58:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, billingtw@sbcglobal.net Perhaps we should know who this seller is, in case we ever deal with him. Sorry about your bad experience. Tom Billing On Feb 23, 2017, at 8:50 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I negotiated a $4 price for a BIN $6.50 or Best Offer on a Fleer Ted Williams card. I paid and the Seller cancelled. He said he could not find the card. I accepted his explanation since he has a good track record on EBay. Just now, I looked and found he has relisted it for $9.99 BIN. I called EBay who were not very concerned by it until I pressed them on it.It seems that a Seller has to establish a pattern of this sort of behaviorat which point EBay will suspend him. I have just sent a message to the Seller asking what is going on. Best regards, In a message dated 02/22/2017 10:03:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com I have had it happen to me several times over the years and yes it's when you get a great deal. I believe you can't leave feedback if he cancels it before you pay. So now if I think I got a real good deal I pay immediately. Still think you have to leave negative feedback before you get the refund, once you get the refund I believe the feedback option goes way. Sent from my iPad On Feb 22, 2017, at 6:43 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] It's happened to me about 4 times. The first time it was a 1962 Mantle which I won for 5 bucks. I did not complain to EBay, but that Seller is no longer on EBay, so I assume they kickedhim In 2 of the other 3 incidents, the Sellers were reputable, so I accepted their "cannot find the card" explanation. Since the transaction is cancelled, I don't think you can leave Feedback. You could call EBay, and I'd be interested in learning what they have to say. Best regards, ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:19:27 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Fwd: Hank postcard From: Steve Rittenberg Can anyone help identify these postcards? Thanks. Steve Rittenberg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Roth Date: Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 9:16 PM Subject: Hank postcard To: Steve Rittenberg Hey Steve, Thanks for agreeing to show this to the OBC group for me, I am very interested to hear what they come up with. I'm not as familiar with RPPC issues as I probably should be. All the best, ================= Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:46:43 -0500 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: what's next? From: ShoelessWes I love basketball, probably more than most would imagine, believe it or not. I am trying to update my 70-80 topps hoops list, as they were destroyed last fall. I'm in, and have a decent amount of dupes. Wes Shepard > On Feb 23, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Aaron Shirley wrote: > March Madness is a real possibility - for basketball cards only. > 1) How many of you actually collect Basketball cards? It only took me like three minutes to move the basketball portion of Fleer February into a newspreadsheet. It includes a few lists from Mike Glasser, Shawn Smart, John Stamper, Mark Talbot, Jay Tysver & TJ Valacak. Who else would want to be a part of this? > 2) Would you all like to do basketball? > 3) Could you have those wantlists and dupes ready for March? > I'm game if you are. > Aaron ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 02:40:46 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCT , Subject: Happy birthday to Honus Wagner and Eddie Murray! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Happy birthday to Honus Wagner and Eddie Murray! No luck with any trades involving Spary Anderson or Bill Klem a couple daysago, although I may have tracked down a Klem RC, so that's exciting! HONUS WAGNER: I NEED: ANY card depicting Wagner prior to 1976, so even a 1960 or 1961 Fleer wouldwork, although the ultimate goal would be to grab a prewar card of him WAGNERS I HAVE AVAILABLE: 3 newer cards of him.....not much Wagner stuff lying around here EDDIE MURRAY: I NEED: 1977 Baltimore Orioles Team Issue 1978 Topps RC PSA 9 or 10 (yeah right!) lol 1978 Hostess Panel 1978 Hostess 1978 Kellogg's 1978 O-Pee-Chee MURRAY'S I HAVE: A few early '80s cards, and maybe some later stuff I have lots to trade for these needs above, so hopefully someone will come out with a sweet surprise! Thanks, everyone! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:14:34 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style From: Glenn Codere Was it just me, or did anyone else read the first sentence of Chuck's message below in Yoda voice?Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com; jimivintage@yahoo.com Cc: billingtw@sbcglobal.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kinda pissed-- Ebay style Troubling was EBay's reaction.Since I received a full $4 refund for what I had paid, they consider that I was made whole. The fact that I will probably have to pay more for the same card, and that the integrity of the auction process was compromised, did not seem to concern them at all, until I pressed the point with them.Best regards, ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 20:35:16 +0000 (UTC) To: Yahoogroups Subject: Play Ball ... Waiver Wire! From: Jerry Coker In honor of Spring Training games starting today ... below is a waiver wire. Hope to do some more soon! I have been so busy recently I haven=E2=99tmade time for return fire on some recent packages. So I=E2=99m hoping that those that have sent me something can find some cards off this waiver. But anyone can claim ... so don=E2=99t be shy! Please include yourmailing address. Thanks! Jerry: My grading (which I=E2=99m sometimes terrible at) Tipton or p poor; f fair; g good vg very good 52B 136 137 both Tipton 55B 151 173 175 207 all f-g, some pencil on front of 151 & 173 but still not too bad 56T (all gray backs) 51g 67f 75f 115f-g 171 trimmed 246 p-f 247 f-g 287p-g 298 trimmed but a blazer :-) 59T 39f-g 72g 307g 331g 334p-f 335g 342vg 343g 344g 348g 377g 384 g-vg 418g422 g-vg 474 vg mc 60T 1f 13f-g 18f 18p 33g 41f 44g 45f-g 55p-f 66p-f 68p 69f-g 72f 74f-g 75g 82g 87p-f 98g 186g 192g 267vg mc Jerry Coker ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:01:23 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] trade idea - 25 or list sets From: Ken M (Sorry about the group reply everyone. Blame it on my not so smart phone.)Mark,  Quick question on the Hostess sets. Are you accepting Twinkies cards too? I have a little of both and was wondering if you have a preference. Thanks, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] Date: Fri, Feb 24, 2017 6:00 PMTo: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Wantlist] trade idea - 25 or list sets Hey guys, as I mentioned earlier I have several sets nearing the end of the search.  As you can see some of my lists look familiar. Lots of us need the same 66s & 67s. All sets listed here need 25 cards or less and it is not much fun to just buy them on eBay. I figured that some of you may be in a similar situation and would be willing to rob your "far off" sets for help on the "closer" ones.     If you can hit this list, I will rob my "in progress" sets that are not near the finish line for return fire. If you see a set on my site that is not listed here I will rob it to provide return fire for something on this list. The only downside is that I am flying out Sunday morning. So you need to let me know what you have & want by tomorrow evening so that my wife can  get it in the mail Monday. Have a good weekend.Mark Holland 1977  Hostess - 30 Rick Monday, 32 Lou Brock, 34 Robin Yount, 69 Buddy Bell, ​73 Gaylord Perry, 77 Jerry Koosman, 78 Garry Templeton, 111 Phil Niekro, 131 Bob Grich, 132 Dave Pagan, 137 Rollie Fingers 1975 Hostess - 15 John Milner, 49 Steve Garvey, 58 Nolan Ryan, 83 Johnny Bench, 88 Reggie Jackson, 90 Elliott Maddox, 91 Bill Russell, 92 John Mayberry, 93 Dave Cash, 100 Mike Sundberg, 103 Glenn Beckert, 105 Mike Jorgenson 1970 Kelloggs - 10 Jim Maloney, 19 Boog Powell , 27 Roberto Clemente, ​32 Reggie Jackson, 42 Ron Santo 1970 Topps Super  - 1 Claude Osteen SP, 2 Sal Bando SP, 8 Johnny Bench, 12 Roberto Clemente, 24 Hank Aaron, 27 Mel Stottlemyre, 38 Boog Powell SP 1967 Topps - 558 Belanger/Dillman, 581 Seaver RC, ​592 Shellenback/Willis, 600 Brooks Robinson 1966 Topps - ​​591 Grant Jackson 1962 Post - 101 Gil Hodges SP, 113 Norm Larker SP, 188 Ernie Banks 1959 Topps  - 10 Mickey Mantle, 467 Aaron - Series HR, 478 Roberto Clemente, 514 Bob Gibson, ​561 Hank Aaron AS, 563  Willie Mays AS, 564 Mickey Mantle AS 1958 Topps - 20 Gil McDougald, 30 Hank Aaron, 47 Roger Maris, 52 Roberto Clemente, 87 Johnny Kucks, 150 Mickey Mantle, 187 Sandy Koufax, 198 Bill Virdon, 255 Bob Turley, 270 Warren Spahn, 285 Frank Robinson, 310   Ernie Banks, 320 Whitey Ford, 321 Sluggers Supreme, 327 Chicago Cubs, 340 Don Newcombe, 343 Orlando Cepeda, 351 Braves Fence Buster, 375 Pee Wee Reese, 488 Hank Aaron 1955 Bowman - 70 Lew Burdette, 160 Bill Skowron, 231 Jim Konstanty, 237 Johnny Wyrostek, 246 Hank Bauer, 253 Jim Wilson, 258 John Stevens Ump, 259 Don Mossi RC, 261 Walt Moryn, 265 Al Barlick Ump, 267 J.Honochick Ump, 269 Joe Amalfitano RC, 270 Chico Fernandez, 278 Charlie Neal RC, 280 Clyde Mccullough, 287 Ron Mrozinski, 293 Thomas Gorman Ump, 295 Lee Ballanfant Ump, 299 Lon Warneke Ump, 303 Jocko Conlan Ump, 307 Babe Pinelli Ump, 310 Ken Lehman, 314 Dale Mitchell, 317 William Summers Ump, 320 George Susce RC 1951 Topps Blue Back - 5 Johnny Pesky, 35 Tommy Byrne Posted by: mark holland > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 20:00:06 -0800 To: Ramblings OBC Subject: Test From: John Stamper Having email issues. John Stamper ================= Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 20:08:14 -0800 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Test From: John Stamper Thanks guys. John Stamper > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:03 PM, familytoad@comcast.net wrote: > Received > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: John Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Ramblings OBC > Sent: February 24, 2017 at 8:02 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Test > Having email issues. > John Stamper ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:40:06 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Lew Lipset's final sale From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, haven't seen a reference elsewhere, so noting that Lew's selling his remaining stock of items at 20% off, including some prewar and postwar: http://www.oldjudge.com/sale_page/ ================= Date: 25 Feb 2017 14:23:16 +0000 To: Subject: Fave set fun = bracket style From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:31:22 -0500 To: james_moleta@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fave set fun = bracket style From: ShoelessWes I thought the idea for that madness playoff bracket was really cool. But way too predictable. 1990, 2002 topps? 50 of the 64 brackets could be replaced with early bowmans, 50's meat, 30's gum, T issues, etc... Wes Shepard > On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:23 AM, james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Apologies if this has been posted previously, but in honor of the impending March Madness and our own recent favorite set discussion, here's an article from 2015 that I stumbled upon this morning. > Enjoy! > James > http://www.cardboardconnection.com/pick-greatest-topps-baseball-set-time ================= To: , Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:36:53 -0600 Subject: Variation Booklet 1933 to 1947 $8 From: "George Vrechek" I have 5 copies left of my 22-page booklet on variations from 1933 to 1947. I am selling them at my cost: $5 printing, $3 postage and envelopes - $8 total by check or paypal F&F. Let me know if you want one. George Vrechek ================= Date: 25 Feb 2017 16:03:23 +0000 To: Subject: Another small football waiver From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 25 Feb 2017 16:19:57 +0000 To: Subject: Free to a (XL) Mets Fan From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:25:05 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Free to a (XL) Mets Fan [1 Attachment] From: Ken M Sal should claim it, but it's an adult XL not a child's small. I'd put in a claim myself, but I'd end up burning it. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 11:20 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Free to a (XL) Mets Fan [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Happy first week of Spring Training! To celebrate I have up for grabs a beautiful, free, vintage 1986 Mets World Champions shirt. I picked this shirt up about ten years ago for my father (who wasn't interested it turned out). The shirt looked unworn when I bought it second hand and hasn't been worn since. It's been part of several cross-country moves and really needs a good home as I'm tired of having it around. The shirt is still in nice shape, not quite as mint as it looked when I bought it though. Size XL. Any takers? ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 11:28:31 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fave set fun = bracket style From: Ken M We did a version of this ourselves. It took a bit of searching, but the thread starts on Leap Day 2012 (message #23303). I haven't gone through the messages yet and I forget which set ended up winning. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 9:23 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Fave set fun = bracket style Apologies if this has been posted previously, but in honor of the impending March Madness and our own recent favorite set discussion, here's an article from 2015 that I stumbled upon this morning. http://www.cardboardconnection.com/pick-greatest-topps-baseball-set-time ================= Date: 25 Feb 2017 17:22:48 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Free to a (XL) Mets Fan From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 10:04:34 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comc From: Rick Anyone buying on Comc in the near future? I can only find one card now thatI want 67 Venezuelan # 65 Nestor mendible. It says minimum offer $1.39. Don't want to pay their shipping for one card. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 18:16:44 +0000 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: March Madness From: Joel Freedman Aaron! Please set up the spread sheet for basketball card trading! ================= Date: 25 Feb 2017 20:31:40 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Greetings from the newest new guy From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 13:26:39 -0800 To: chris tripler , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: Rick Chris offered to help me out Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2017, at 12:36 PM, chris tripler wrote: > Rick, I have a stack of cards that I need sent my way, do you want me to pick it up? > Sent from my iPhone >> On Feb 25, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Anyone buying on Comc in the near future? I can only find one card now that I want 67 Venezuelan # 65 Nestor mendible. It says minimum offer $1.39.Don't want to pay their shipping for one card. Rick >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 21:27:43 +0000 (UTC) To: Yahoogroups Subject: Play Ball ... Waiver Wire - Done From: Jerry Coker Wow ... that was fast ... lots of interest! I think I was able to spread the cards out pretty equitably. Anyway ... everybody got something :-) Packages go out next week. Thanks! Go Braves/Giants!Jerry Coker ================= Date: 25 Feb 2017 23:41:14 +0000 To: Subject: Re: Free to a (XL) Mets Fan From: davidluftig@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 02:43:06 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Nicknames From: EEK As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! Ok OBC, tell me some stories! Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 22:41:35 -0500 To: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: ShoelessWes When i was in the army, i was huge. Everyone thought i looked like The Swede from Heartbreak Ridge. I have never once referred to myself as The Swede.Yet, every military or paramilitary organization i have ever been part of have automatically and instantly defaulted to addressing me as The Swede, or sometimes Swede, in both public and private. Once in OBC, i trimmed down a bit, and baseball fans in this group began torealize a sort of resemblance to Redleg's Ted Kluszewski. The nose, eyes, forehead and arms i guess. The Reds hat helps too. Little Klu became a reference, sometimes a nickname. Wes Shepard > On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:43 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] > As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBCAddress List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. > For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it'snow called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. TheRed Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out.To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we wouldput our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! > Ok OBC, tell me some stories! > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 03:45:37 +0000 (UTC) To: grains1087@gmail.com, "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Re: Super Bowl appreciations From: Geordie Calvert lol - Grant, I knew that'd grab your attention. So back to this OPC thing. I knew I had some OPC Dodgers stashed away somewhere - turns out they were in my team set binder, and they were all '69s. I had 5 of the 10 in the team set, so that's good. I also found that I had a couple of '65 OPC, which is good... and also bad. A quick pause. See, I picture our good friend Grant. And I imagine that Grant has this maniacal alter-ego. Not an evil alter-ego, mind you, but one that laughs at the misfortunes of his silly American friends. And... snap back to reality. And cue the maniacal laugh - it'll be needed soon. So back to those couple '65 OPC that I found. Well, turns out that they were mixed in with what I thought was a complete '65 Topps Dodgers set. Oh, no. Not complete at all. Now it's missing card #s 77 and 98, 'cause the ones I have were printed Canada. This is a set I have been thinking was complete since probably 2000 or so. Swell. But wait, there's more. Ignorance is bliss, so they say. "If I don't look, I won't ever have to know", I told myself. Crap, I'd better look. Open up the '65 box and scan through cards 1-283. Sure enough, ol' Casey Stengal was printed in Canada. Well, I better check the rest of the sets I collect. 1970, you're next - cards 1-546 open for inspection. @#$% - two Canadian lurkers. By now I'm shaking my fist at our northern neighbor. And listening to a maniacal laugh in my head. And imagining that nice Grant is adding his own laugh, too. Good thing is, I'm the only one in the group this has ever happened to, right? RIGHT? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Rainsley" To: dodgergeo@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:31:55 PM Subject: Re: Super Bowl appreciations RCMP.......Oh, gag me with a spoon;-) A virtual contact card with my new email address is attached to this message, please update your address book if you wish to stay in touch. ================= To: EEK , OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 19:59:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Grant Rainsley Great topic, and for me, very timely, I have been thinking about it lately. Back in the mid-80's I spent almost three years undercover.......I was pretty ugly with the hair and beard..........and my "mentor" for u/c work was just laid to rest yesterday, hence the memory jog. He had a fascination for people's names.....and would always try to put first and last names together to make one short one............so I started as "GRainsley", but it got shortened to "Grains" in moments of a hot surveillance when time was of the essence. Grains stuck, and even became part of my email address(es). grains@shaw.ca or grains1087@gmail.com. (My mentor's name was Richard A. Mulder.......RAM for short, and for more than one reason which I think I had best not explain further on this forum....) As a kid, I was called Red, or Carrot-Top, for obvious reasons at the time that no longer exist.........I think it would be stupid to call me "California Blondie" today. At least the hair is still there, I'm still looking for the original color. Yup, Grains........I have been called much worse. On 2017-02-25 6:43 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking > about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them.As I > scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a > few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it > would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and > email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm > sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be > fun to learn about. > For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as > it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for > lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got > quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular > machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine > written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number > of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and > it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, > originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but > was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had > the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in > fact the original EEK! > Ok OBC, tell me some stories! > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" A virtual contact card with my new email address is attached to this message, please update your address book if you wish to stay in touch. ================= Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 23:03:03 -0600 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: OBC Nick P Let's see here Nach OBC ards @ yahoo.com Nacho B Cards @ yahoo.com The cards should be easy. I like cards. Then, The B just for too well as a Nacho is from my wife katie. When we first started going out she called menacho nick to her friends. It's since been shortened at our house to justnacho. I ordered nachos for us on our first date.....at a sports bar watching a Twins I later found out the decision was made on nacho nick over nerdy nick. Whew! Dodged a bullet there. For those of you who have not met my wife Katie.....I married way up, way way Nick Pelletier > On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:59 PM, Grant Rainsley grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Great topic, and for me, very timely, I have been thinking about it lately. Back in the mid-80's I spent almost three years undercover.......I was pretty ugly with the hair and beard..........and my "mentor" for u/c work was just laid to rest yesterday, hence the memory jog. > He had a fascination for people's names.....and would always try to put first and last names together to make one short one............so I started as "GRainsley", but it got shortened to "Grains" in moments of a hot surveillance when time was of the essence. Grains stuck, and even became part of my email address(es). grains@shaw.ca or grains1087@gmail.com. (My mentor's name was Richard A. Mulder.......RAM for short, and for more than one reason which I think I had best not explain further on this forum....) > As a kid, I was called Red, or Carrot-Top, for obvious reasons at the time that no longer exist.........I think it would be stupid to call me "California Blondie" today. At least the hair is still there, I'm still looking for the original color. > Yup, Grains........I have been called much worse. > Grant >> On 2017-02-25 6:43 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. >> For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having hadthe nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in factthe original EEK! >> Ok OBC, tell me some stories! >> Earl "EEK" Kilbourn >> "we keep what we give away!" > -- > A virtual contact card with my new email address is attached to this message, please update your address book if you wish to stay in touch. > ================= To: EEK Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 05:24:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:37:44 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Free to a (XL) Mets Fan From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Tell you what, if you want to burn it, bring a Brady jersey and we'll torch both of em in Chicago! It can be the Chicago fire of 2017! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2017 11:25:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Sal should claim it, but it's an adult XL not a child's small. I'd put in a claim myself, but I'd end up burning it. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: _davidluftig@gmail.com_ (mailto:davidluftig@gmail.com) Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 11:20 AM To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Free to a (XL) Mets Fan [1 Attachment] Happy first week of Spring Training! To celebrate I have up for grabs a beautiful, free, vintage 1986 Mets World Champions shirt. I picked this shirt up about ten years ago for my father (who wasn't interested it turned out). The shirt looked unworn when I bought it second hand and hasn't been worn since. It's been part of several cross-country moves and really needs a good home as I'm tired of having it around. The shirt is still in nice shape, not quite as mint as it looked when I bought it though. Size XL. Any takers? ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:45:35 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] March Madness From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I have added all the Topps basketball issues on my web page. Not that I need any more sets to collect LOL. I have 2 sets completed, 1 near complete and the rest, I have a lot of nothing... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2017 1:16:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Aaron! Please set up the spread sheet for basketball card trading! ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 01:02:45 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I'm still digging "Shoeless Wes"... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2017 10:41:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: When i was in the army, i was huge. Everyone thought i looked like The Swede from Heartbreak Ridge. I have never once referred to myself as The Swede. Yet, every military or paramilitary organization i have ever been part have automatically and instantly defaulted to addressing me as The Swede, or sometimes Swede, in both public and private. Once in OBC, i trimmed down a bit, and baseball fans in this group began to realize a sort of resemblance to Redleg's Ted Kluszewski. The nose, eyes, forehead and arms i guess. The Reds hat helps too. Little Klu became a reference, sometimes a nickname. Wes Shepard On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:43 PM, EEK _originaleek1@att.net_ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames in the day that also might be fun to learn about. For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, _originaleek1@att.net_ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net) , I originally (I know) wanted _eek1@att.net_ (mailto:eek1@att.net) but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! Ok OBC, tell me some stories! Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:05:34 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: tvalacak@comcast.net Content-Disposition: inline I know I've shared this before, but happy to share again. Mine is simple and not very exciting, but a nickname I am very proud of. I am named after mydad, Thomas A Valacak. They stuck the Jr at the end of my name and have called me TJ since the day I was born. I've got a few others that come out every once in a while, usually around my college buddies. They like to call me Snowman. That started at a summer BBQ party back when we were in college. Mosquitos live me, so I try and wearpants and long sleeves when I can, trying to avoid putting on OFF mosquitospray. I was trying to impress the ladies and didn't want to stink like off. Anyway, at this party, the temp was in the high 90s. One of those brutalhot and humid days here in chicago. I was wearing pants at the is party. Everyone else in shorts. So, they started calling me Snowman. It is fitting,as I am generally a bit colder than others. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-02-25 9:11:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learnabout the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obviouswhile others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.netbut was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! Ok OBC, tell me some stories! Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 00:07:42 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fave set fun =?utf-8?Q?_?=bracket style From: tvalacak@comcast.net Content-Disposition: inline That was a super cool thread. There were some resl tough choices in those brackets. think the t206 won? I will have to go back and take a look. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-02-25 10:30:38 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fave set fun bracket style We did a version of this ourselves. It took a bit of searching, but the thread starts on Leap Day 2012 (message #23303). I haven't gone through the messages yet and I forget which set ended up winning. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: james_moleta@hotmail.com (%20mailto:james_moleta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 9:23 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com); Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Fave set fun bracket style Apologies if this has been posted previously, but in honor of the impendingMarch Madness and our own recent favorite set discussion, here's an article from 2015 that I stumbled upon this morning. p dir"ltr">Enjoy! http://www.cardboardconnection.com/pick-greatest-topps-baseball-set-time ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 01:26:09 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: End of Vacation Ramble From: cardclctor@aol.com Hi all, So I was thinking about a bunch of the sets I have and am collecting - and how there's very similar sets for a lot of them. This week I've been going through a lot of my Hostess sets - and discovering that I have a few Twinkies cards in the mix. Since I've also added the Twinkies sets to my list, it's not so bad, but I still have to add cards back onto my list fr sets that I thought were done. As the eBay lots I've won this week have come in, I've been going through my sets a few times each - and discovering gremlins and cards that I originally thought were Hostess are not. I DS'ed a lot of Milton Bradley cards from Jimi. Those arrived today. I honestly can't tell the bloody difference on a bunch of them - or do I already have a ton of MB's in my 1968 set? Grrr.. Geordie was talking about finding OPC's in his '65 and '70 sets. I don't even want to look at mine. My sets are all in pages, back to back, so I'd have to remove them all to check. That's too much work right now. Maybe I'll get around to that when I retire in 15-20 years. I fixed my wantlist a little bit. The 1977 cloth stickers, which had a tab all to themselves for some reason (read: laziness) are now on the main page and they have been replaced with my football and hockey lists. I'm tired of eBay sellers that don't show the backs of the cards, but put "condition of the back is the same as the front" (or don't put anything in the description at all). I did win a group of Kellogg's cards this week with only a picture of the front and got one of the last seven 1971 variations on my list out of the effort. That's the exception rather than the rule though. I probably wouldn't have bid on the lot if there weren't a couple HOF'ers I needed for my 2nd set (which I plan to complete and sell on eBay when I do). The nicknames thread brings back memories of when I first joined OBC. A lot of people still had the 4 or 5 letter screen names, so we could fit them all in one address book. I've had this email for over 20 years. I originally wanted CardCollector, but AOL only gave you 10 characters when I joined. Years later, I was a beta tester for 'new' AOL software for the Mac and they were getting ready to open up 16 character screen names, so I grabbed CardCollector (for my eBay stuff) and KenMorganti (for just about everything else) before they went live to the public. Now this one is pretty much only OBC - and it gets about 99% of all my email. I was going to do a 9-set project with my Hostess/Twinkies sets, but couldn't figure out how I wanted to put them together. I was toying with the idea of 150 pages representing each card number, but instead of putting 9 of the same card in each page, I'd end up putting 9 of the same number in each page instead... but then I figured it would look silly with 5 different cards on a page - and not all the cards have a corresponding Twinkie card except for the 1977 set (and not all of those have the small print variation) - and then how many 1976 cards come with brown ink? For now, I'll continue to stuff the pages of my Hostess binder, which is now over capacity. I have to work tomorrow for the first time in a week. I stopped by the store to get my schedule and check out the ice cream reset they did while I was gone - it was thoroughly stupid. I even told the guy before I left, "Just move this ONE door of ice cream cakes to the middle of the aisle, put the 'new' door here and you'll save a TON of work." (Because I had pretty much reset the entire section according to the planogram myself and it would've taken them maybe 5 minutes to move the ice cream cakes). Nope. They left the cakes where they were and proceeded to move the sixteen doors I had reset over one door each. Not only that, but the way the cases are set up, there's a hard plastic 'divider' that breaks up the last door of the ice cream set and throws off the spacing - which would've been avoided had they moved the cakes into that door like I told them to in the first place! (But what do I know? I've only been doing this for 33 years.) Oh yeah, and we're selling cold air because they cut out the extra items I left in the ice cream section (there was enough space for one extra row on each shelf) and replaced them with - NOTHING! If I have any time this week, I may just reset the whole section the way I want it again. Thanks for letting me vent. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 06:52:52 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: re: Nicknames From: LAWRENCE TIPTON On the OBC web-site click and at the bottom of the FAQ is an article by Josh Levine =E2=9CA Brief OBC History=E2=9D which explains the story behind my nickname =E2=9CGuru=E2=9D Back in the early days of OBC 1991/1992 I recommended investing in Mario Mendoza cards, and was given the nickname =E2=9CGuru of Investments=E2=9D which was shortened to =E2=9CGuru=E2=9D Been that way ever since! ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:52:15 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: ShoelessWes Oh yeah, i forgot about Shoeless Wes, from the series of OBC cards, with variations, as i was barefoot in the poses. If you check the 1933 Delong, youwill clearly see, no shoes. Wes Shepard > On Feb 26, 2017, at 1:02 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'm still digging "Shoeless Wes"... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/25/2017 10:41:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > When i was in the army, i was huge. Everyone thought i looked like The Swede from Heartbreak Ridge. I have never once referred to myself as The Swede. Yet, every military or paramilitary organization i have ever been part of have automatically and instantly defaulted to addressing me as The Swede,or sometimes Swede, in both public and private. > Once in OBC, i trimmed down a bit, and baseball fans in this group began to realize a sort of resemblance to Redleg's Ted Kluszewski. The nose, eyes, forehead and arms i guess. The Reds hat helps too. Little Klu became a reference, sometimes a nickname. > Wes Shepard > On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:43 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] > As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBCAddress List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. > [Unable to display image]For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for allthese years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! > [Unable to display image]Ok OBC, tell me some stories! > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:12:32 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Free to a (XL) Mets Fan From: Joel Freedman only if we can add a cubs jersey!!! On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:37 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Tell you what, if you want to burn it, bring a Brady jersey and we'll torch both of em in Chicago! It can be the Chicago fire of 2017! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/25/2017 11:25:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Sal should claim it, but it's an adult XL not a child's small. I'd put ina claim myself, but I'd end up burning it. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: davidluftig@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 11:20 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Free to a (XL) Mets Fan [1 Attachment] > Happy first week of Spring Training! > span> > To celebrate I have up for grabs a beautiful, free, vintage 1986 Mets World Champions shirt. I picked this shirt up about ten years ago for my father (who wasn't interested it turned out). The shirt looked unworn when I bought it second hand and hasn't been worn since. It's been part of several cross-country moves and really needs a good home as I'm tired of having it around. The shirt is still in nice shape, not quite as mint as it looked whenI bought it though. Size XL. Any takers? > David ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 07:44:48 -0800 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: Rick That's what I wanted someone to do there was no hurry when I got the card. Chris offered already but the card was gone. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:39 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: > Rick, > I have stuff on hold, but haven't found anything new I want to add just yet. If you aren't in a hurry, I can try to grab it and keep it in my bank until I can build it up to make the shipping worth it. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/25/2017 1:04:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Anyone buying on Comc in the near future? I can only find one card now that I want 67 Venezuelan # 65 Nestor mendible. It says minimum offer $1.39. Don't want to pay their shipping for one card. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:46:26 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Snack time From: cardclctor@aol.com Anyone hungry for some cards? I won't even get to start fielding requests until Monday after work, so don't feel like you'll be left out if you're not quick on the trigger. There's plenty here, so I'll try to spread them out as best I can, especially if I didn't send you anything last month. (It's not necessarily FCFS). There's SP's (maybe) and stars in here, but no unissued proofs. (I wish I could afford the ones RL just posted!) I also have DS starter sets in addition to this (1975, 1976 and 1977) if you want to guarantee yourself all of the cards from a particular year (read: these are my TRIPLICATES) Don't be shy - no carbs or calories! (Note: condition is mostly low grade due to trusting ten year-olds with scissors. A few of them have the typical staining from Twinkies, but no black bars are visible on the back due to the trim job, so I classified them as regular Hostess.) 1975 Hostess 4 5 5 6 20 20 33 34 34 35 36 38 43 44 45 47 57 64 65 66 67 68 69 72 76 76 77 79 81 88* 104 107 133 134 135 136 136 136 137 137 138 141 145 147 147 149 149 *super trimmed(Reggie) 1976 Hostess 1 1 3 3 4 7 8 9 10 12 13 16 19 19 37 37 38 39 44 44 63 64 64 64 65 65 65 67 67 68 68 70 72 73 78 79 81 122 124 135 1977 Hostess 7 7 11 12 16 17 18 18 18 23 24 27 36 37 37 39 43 44 47 52 53 54 58 60 93 114 119 1978 Hostess 17 37 38 39 46 48 52 53 54 62 64 64 65 66 67 68 71 72 106 107 114 129 142 1979 Hostess 2 4 22 23 24 49 50 51 58 59 63 64 65 66 72 89 107 131 143 149 1975 Twinkies 2 14 17 18 20 33 33 34 40 43 64 73 73 80 112 125 1976 Twinkies 13 21 27 30 35 37 1977 Twinkies 1 15 28 31 53 55 56 56 Below are my WANTLISTS in case you have a trade proposal: HOSTESS (Full panels will be cut to put in the binder) 1975 Hostess* 11b(Burt Hooton cor) 24(Nettles) 92(Mayberry sp) 93(Cash sp) 94(Burroughs sp) 98(Darwin sp) 112(Money) 122(Orta) 125(Madlock P) 1975 Twinkies* 3(Evans) 5(Morgan) 6(Lolich) 8(Melton) 9(Foli) 11(Hooten) 21(Sanguillen) 24(Nettles) 26(Scott) 29(Campaneris) 30(Rose) 35(May) 61(Cey) 65(Cardenal) 68(Wood) 79(Messersmith) 82(Singer) 110(Kaat) 113(Monday) 1976 Hostess* 26(Horton) 52(Harrelson) 84(Schmidt) 1976 Twinkies* 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 15 16 18 19 20 29 31 33 34 41 42 43 45 46 47 48 51 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 1977 Hostess* 8(Rose) 56(Mayberry) 109(Patek sp) 1977 Twinkies* 2 3 6 9 10 14 19 20 24 29 30 49 50 52 54 60 62 63 64 65 67 69 70 71 72 73 77 78 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 90 91 93 96 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 108 110 111 114 116 117 118 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 1978 Hostess* 5(Sutter) 11(Stargell) 16(Williams) 19(Matthews) 21(Wills) 26(Kingman) 28(Watson sp) 29(Boone sp) 31(Murray sp) 32(Lavelle sp) 34(Kuiper sp) 35(Lezcano sp) 36(Rozema sp) 40(Maddox) 41(Hargrove) 42(Bonds) 47(Reggie) 77(Thompson) 78(Eck) 80(Koosman) 81(Bochte) 82(Hendrick) 83(Ryan) 84(Howell) 104(Candelaria) 111(Splitorff) 121(Ru. Jones) 135(Parker) 145(Bostock) 146(Carter) 147(Blomberg) 1979 Hostess* 29(Richard sp) 30(Luzinski sp) 31(Ott sp) 32(Martinez sp) 33(Evans sp) 38b(Carew small) 74(Blue sp) 75(Garner sp) 79(Stinson sp) 91(Cedeno) 92(Sutton) 93(Thornton) 95(Hisle) 98(Horner) 100(Montanez) 102(Ozzie) 105(Bailor rev) 113(Boone) 115(Murray) 133(Blyleven) 145(Eck) ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:43:31 -0500 To: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Jimi Thayer I was named after my dad's best friend from school, who's name is Jim Oatman. Super nice guy, and a great police officer, FYI. I was not, however, named after Jimi Hendrix, as so many have asked me before, despite the fact that I come from a very musical family. :) If you ask my parents, they will simply tell you that they wanted my name to be different. Other nicknames that I go by are James (my real name, of course), Jimi James, James Michael, JT, jimivintage, and a bunch of other pet names from my wife. ;) Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2017, at 9:43 PM, EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] > As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBCAddress List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. > For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it'snow called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. TheRed Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out.To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we wouldput our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! > Ok OBC, tell me some stories! > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 09:38:33 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Geordie Calvert Great topic, EEK! The only nickname I've ever had didn't come around until I was 24 or so. I was a street ball regular at one of the local outdoor courts and fell in with a group of guys that started calling me "Commander", after Lavar Burton's character on Star Trek: TNG, Geordi La Forge. I don't see those guys muchanymore, but that's how I'm greeted whenever I run into them. How did I get stuck with Geordie in the first place? My parents were in thehippie scene in Portland OR in the 60s, and my mother was a Joan Baez fan.She performed and recorded "Geordie", which is a ballad from the 19th century, as early as 1962. When I was born, that was one of four names being considered. Luckily for me, the perfectly normal names Christopher, Ross and Jeremy were disqualified and became middle names (yep, I have three middle names) and Geordie, which damn near everyone has trouble spelling and pronouncing, became my first name. I don't even mess around at restaurants and coffee shops anymore - I tell them my name is Sam when I'm asked. That's onethat's hard to screw up. When I was deciding on an email address in the early days of dial-up, I combined my love of the Dodgers and my name to become "dodgergeo". Like most others, I've had it for so long that it's part of who I am. ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:52:29 -0500 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Joel Freedman This is easy. i have never had nickname. On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Great topic, EEK! > The only nickname I've ever had didn't come around until I was 24 or so. I was a street ball regular at one of the local outdoor courts and fell in with a group of guys that started calling me "Commander", after Lavar Burton's character on Star Trek: TNG, Geordi La Forge. I don't see those guys much anymore, but that's how I'm greeted whenever I run into them. > How did I get stuck with Geordie in the first place? My parents were in the hippie scene in Portland OR in the 60s, and my mother was a Joan Baez fan. She performed and recorded "Geordie", which is a ballad from the 19th century, as early as 1962. When I was born, that was one of four names being considered. Luckily for me, the perfectly normal names Christopher, Ross and Jeremy were disqualified and became middle names (yep, I have three middle names) and Geordie, which damn near everyone has trouble spelling and pronouncing, became my first name. I don't even mess around at restaurants andcoffee shops anymore - I tell them my name is Sam when I'm asked. That's one that's hard to screw up. > When I was deciding on an email address in the early days of dial-up, I combined my love of the Dodgers and my name to become "dodgergeo". Like mostothers, I've had it for so long that it's part of who I am. > Sam ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 10:55:15 -0700 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: James Silva Nice! So as a =E2=9CJames=E2=9D, I grew up as Jimmy in my family and neighborhood, James at my Episcopal day school through 7th grade, and finally Jim once I went to high school. I can still sometimes tell where I met someone based on which version of James they use. In college I found great friends who eventually started a poker group that still exists in San Diego.Most of them spoke decent Spanish and would throw it around at the table. I would often insinuate myself into the conversation even though I don=E2=99t speak much Spanish at all. I would utter silly nonsensical phrases combining words in Spanish that I did know. One of them was, =E2=9CY losninos del fuego tam bien=E2=9D which translates roughly as =E2=9Candthe children of the fire also=E2=9D. So to my poker group I became El Fuego or simply Fuego (also Jaime or Jaimito - more on that next). When my mostly latino students would ask me what my =E2=9Creal=E2=9D name was (they wanted to know my first name) I would often tell them that it was "Jaimito de los ninos del fuego y la playa tam bien en la ciudad=E2=9D. Forthe record, I am mostly Portuguese and Irish and have yet to find any Latino/Hispanic heritage in my family history research - I am just a wannabe. The #25 I sign with is the number of my favorite football player ever - FredBiletnikoff. > On Feb 26, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Great topic, EEK! > The only nickname I've ever had didn't come around until I was 24 or so. I was a street ball regular at one of the local outdoor courts and fell in with a group of guys that started calling me "Commander", after Lavar Burton's character on Star Trek: TNG, Geordi La Forge. I don't see those guys much anymore, but that's how I'm greeted whenever I run into them. > How did I get stuck with Geordie in the first place? My parents were in the hippie scene in Portland OR in the 60s, and my mother was a Joan Baez fan. She performed and recorded "Geordie", which is a ballad from the 19th century, as early as 1962. When I was born, that was one of four names being considered. Luckily for me, the perfectly normal names Christopher, Ross and Jeremy were disqualified and became middle names (yep, I have three middle names) and Geordie, which damn near everyone has trouble spelling and pronouncing, became my first name. I don't even mess around at restaurants andcoffee shops anymore - I tell them my name is Sam when I'm asked. That's one that's hard to screw up. > When I was deciding on an email address in the early days of dial-up, I combined my love of the Dodgers and my name to become "dodgergeo". Like mostothers, I've had it for so long that it's part of who I am. > Sam ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:09:46 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Like Joel, I have no nickname. I am 55 and have wanted a nickname forever. I do not like my name (No offense Mr, Griffin) I found out I was named after Randy Duncan, a BC Lions football player, which is kind of cool, but I wish my folks told me this before I was 30 years I need a nickname, I asked OBC once, Ed Schott came up with "Bubbles", a Lawrence Welk reference, who I am related to. But, that does not work for me. People with nicknames always seemed to have an extra bit of cool going on. I am kind of cool. Why don't I have a nickname? But I have no nickname. I joined OBC trying to get one (Ok that part is not really true. but kind of is) My wife sometimes calls me Mr. Wonderful, but that is what I told her I am. If I can sign all my emails "RW" and people know who that is that would be Randy Welk ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 11:33:29 -0700 To: rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: James Silva Hey Randy, I did a quick search for =E2=9Cwelk=E2=9D and came up with the nickname =E2=9CLightning=E2=9D because there is a species of whelks (alternate spelling) called =E2=9CLightning Whelks=E2=9D. Because who doesn=E2=99t want to be named after a predatory sea snail!!! It=E2=99s goteverything you want in a nickname including coolness and irony (can=E2=99t imagine sea snails that are lightning fast). Jim =E2=9CEl Fuego=E2=9D (Whelk - in solidarity) > On Feb 26, 2017, at 11:09 AM, rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey > Like Joel, I have no nickname. > I am 55 and have wanted a nickname forever. I do not like my name (No offense Mr, Griffin) > I found out I was named after Randy Duncan, a BC Lions football player, which is kind of cool, but I wish my folks told me this before I was 30 years > I need a nickname, I asked OBC once, Ed Schott came up with "Bubbles", a Lawrence Welk reference, who I am related to. But, that does not work for me. > People with nicknames always seemed to have an extra bit of cool going on. I am kind of cool. Why don't I have a nickname? > But I have no nickname. I joined OBC trying to get one (Ok that part is not really true. but kind of is) > My wife sometimes calls me Mr. Wonderful, but that is what I told her I am. If I can sign all my emails "RW" and people know who that is that would be > Randy Welk > RW ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:35:28 -0600 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: tvalacak@comcast.net Content-Disposition: inline Related to Lawrence Welk. That is cool. Growing up, we would drive to my grandparents every other weekend. Usually Friday night after my dad got home from work. 99 minute drive to St Joe Michigan. And almost always, my grandparents were watching Lawrence Welk. I like the Bubbles nickname for you. Put it in your signature Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2017-02-26 12:11:52 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames Like Joel, I have no nickname. I am 55 and have wanted a nickname forever. I do not like my name (No offense Mr, Griffin) I found out I was named after Randy Duncan, a BC Lions football player, which is kind of cool, but I wish my folks told me this before I was 30 years old. I need a nickname, I asked OBC once, Ed Schott came up with "Bubbles", a Lawrence Welk reference, who I am related to. But, that does not work for me. People with nicknames always seemed to have an extra bit of cool going on. I am kind of cool. Why don't I have a nickname? But I have no nickname. I joined OBC trying to get one (Ok that part is notreally true. but kind of is) My wife sometimes calls me Mr. Wonderful, but that is what I told her I am.If I can sign all my emails "RW" and people know who that is that would befine. Randy Welk ================= To: James Silva Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 18:54:24 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:09:59 -0500 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Yahoo I am on board with Joel I have never had a nickname. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:52, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > This is easy. i have never had nickname. > Joel >> On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Great topic, EEK! >> The only nickname I've ever had didn't come around until I was 24 or so.I was a street ball regular at one of the local outdoor courts and fell inwith a group of guys that started calling me "Commander", after Lavar Burton's character on Star Trek: TNG, Geordi La Forge. I don't see those guys much anymore, but that's how I'm greeted whenever I run into them. >> How did I get stuck with Geordie in the first place? My parents were in the hippie scene in Portland OR in the 60s, and my mother was a Joan Baez fan. She performed and recorded "Geordie", which is a ballad from the 19th century, as early as 1962. When I was born, that was one of four names beingconsidered. Luckily for me, the perfectly normal names Christopher, Ross and Jeremy were disqualified and became middle names (yep, I have three middle names) and Geordie, which damn near everyone has trouble spelling and pronouncing, became my first name. I don't even mess around at restaurants and coffee shops anymore - I tell them my name is Sam when I'm asked. That's one that's hard to screw up. >> When I was deciding on an email address in the early days of dial-up, I combined my love of the Dodgers and my name to become "dodgergeo". Like most others, I've had it for so long that it's part of who I am. >> Sam ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 15:17:39 -0500 To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Jimi Thayer What are you talking about bucknutt2008? I'm assuming an Ohio State reference? Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I am on board with Joel I have never had a nickname. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:52, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> This is easy. i have never had nickname. >> Joel >>> On Feb 26, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Great topic, EEK! >>> The only nickname I've ever had didn't come around until I was 24 or so. I was a street ball regular at one of the local outdoor courts and fell in with a group of guys that started calling me "Commander", after Lavar Burton's character on Star Trek: TNG, Geordi La Forge. I don't see those guys much anymore, but that's how I'm greeted whenever I run into them. >>> How did I get stuck with Geordie in the first place? My parents were inthe hippie scene in Portland OR in the 60s, and my mother was a Joan Baez fan. She performed and recorded "Geordie", which is a ballad from the 19th century, as early as 1962. When I was born, that was one of four names being considered. Luckily for me, the perfectly normal names Christopher, Ross and Jeremy were disqualified and became middle names (yep, I have three middle names) and Geordie, which damn near everyone has trouble spelling and pronouncing, became my first name. I don't even mess around at restaurants and coffee shops anymore - I tell them my name is Sam when I'm asked. That'sone that's hard to screw up. >>> When I was deciding on an email address in the early days of dial-up, Icombined my love of the Dodgers and my name to become "dodgergeo". Like most others, I've had it for so long that it's part of who I am. >>> Sam ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 22:54:50 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Gremlin strike - 1952 Topps #196 Hemus with red stripe From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, My records show that I should have 2 copies of a 1952 Topps card #196 SollyHemus that has a red stripe about a 1/4 inch wide on part of the left border (on the front of the card) - but when I was trying to take pictures to show these red stripes (as per a request in my other post on the topic), I realized that these two are missing. After searching high and low, my only possible explanation is that I accidentally sent it to someone in this group. If I did and you are willingto return it, I promise I will send you a replacement for the Hemus plus some good extras. (And even if you want to keep it, please let me know you have it - because I really can't believe I would have done that but it's the only explanationI can come up with!) ================= To: OBC Ramblings , EEK Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 23:03:30 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Taylor Schock Mine came in middle school as well, from a science teacher. It started as Doctor but quickly was shortened to "Doc", and is still used by long time friends. How did I get that name? Those from the Philly area who've watched the 'local' version of SCTV's great spoof, "Monster Chiller Horror Theater" on Saturday afternoon probably will know the answer. The funny thing is I never saw the show or knew it even existed prior to acquiring my moniker. A mystery to me is how I got my first name. I heard a couple different stories but will probably never know for certain at this point. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:43 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learnabout the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obviouswhile others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.netbut was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! Ok OBC, tell me some stories! Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 00:42:37 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 79 Topps ? From: Bob Saxton In the 1979 Topps baseball set checklists are printed on white paper that seems thinner than the regular stock. Anyone know why? ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:43:12 -0500 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Jake Brewer I've had two nicknames: In college my friends gave me the nickname "Abe" because I look like a miniature version of Abraham Lincoln with my beard. Here in OBC I kind-of gave myself the nickname "The Kid" because I'm the group's youngest Member; as I was born the year the group was founded in 1991. It's stuck pretty well, as many of my envelopes have been addressed to "The Side note- no one else may call him this, but from now on I will call Doug DeJong "Uncle Doug" because of me borrowing "old-fashioned cash" from him for a deal at a show recently; like he was my uncle haha -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > On Feb 26, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Mine came in middle school as well, from a science teacher. It started asDoctor but quickly was shortened to "Doc", and is still used by long time friends. How did I get that name? Those from the Philly area who've watchedthe 'local' version of SCTV's great spoof, "Monster Chiller Horror Theater" on Saturday afternoon probably will know the answer. The funny thing is Inever saw the show or knew it even existed prior to acquiring my moniker. > A mystery to me is how I got my first name. I heard a couple different stories but will probably never know for certain at this point. > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:43 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames > As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBCAddress List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. > For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it'snow called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. TheRed Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out.To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we wouldput our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! > Ok OBC, tell me some stories! > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 00:54:55 +0000 To: Bob Saxton , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 79 Topps ? From: Bob Donaldson The ones on thinner stock were a mail in set. They are usually hand cut On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:42 PM Bob Saxton judgeguy08@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > In the 1979 Topps baseball set checklists are printed on white paper that > seems thinner than the regular stock. Anyone know why? ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:58:13 -0500 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 79 Topps ? From: Jimi Thayer Bob is correct. The mail team checklists were actually issued as an uncut sheet, but most are found crudely cut. You can still buy full sheets on eBay from time to time from 1975 to 1981ish, I think. Not 100% on the range though. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > The ones on thinner stock were a mail in set. They are usually hand cut > Bob >> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:42 PM Bob Saxton judgeguy08@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> In the 1979 Topps baseball set checklists are printed on white paper that seems thinner than the regular stock. Anyone know why? ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:26:13 -0500 To: VCT , Subject: Last call for 1977 Topps Star Wars.... From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I still have two starter sets of 1977 Topps Star Wars cards available. Most cards top out at midgrade, but many in G/VG/VGEX. Starters have 124 cards and 79 cards in them. Anyone interested before they head to EBay? I'd like to get these out of here! :) Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 20:12:43 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: MARSHALL'S MAG-WAIVER From: Marshall West OBC enthusiasts: I have in my garage boxes of Baseball magazines that needto go. All magazines are from around 1985 to 1995. I will list who is onthe cover below. Claim away, but please be patient as I need to go purchase envelopes for the magazines, and I might be out of town until mid-March. So choose carefully which magazines you want Grasshoppers! (Boy, I sure miss KUNG-FU on TV real bad) BASEBALL CARDS MAGAZINES - cover photo K.MITCHELL GREENWELL BONDS JOYNER GRIFFEY CANSECO GOODEN INCAVIGLIA BONILLA F.THOMAS COLEMAN STRAWBERRY O.SMITH GIBSON BO_JACKSON E.DAVIS W.CLARK POPPEL LARKIN MCGWIRE SHEFFIELD S.AVERY C.RIPKEN SAM_HORN F.RODRIGUEZ J.GONZALEZ ECKERSLEY ABBOTT GWYNN OTHER ODD-BALL MAGAZINES - cover photo: RUTH ALOMAR&LARKIN FELLER RIPKEN SEAVER B.ROBINSON AVERY F.THOMAS If you know where you live, please send your address along with your claim.Those who I owe (many) have priority in a Mag-Waiver. Marshall West ================= To: Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:25:49 -0500 Subject: New Sets added From: "Bob Donaldson" Adding a couple of new sets. My first (and likely only) Basketball set Basketball Topps 1969-70 1 2 3 5 6 10 11 12 14 15 17 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 35 36 37 40 42 43 44 45 47 50 54 55 56 57 60 61 65 67 68 69 70 71 74 75 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 88 90 91 93 94 95 98 99 And the 1964 Topps BB Coin set 1964 Topps Coins I HAVE 26, 31 Thanks for looking ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 14:41:32 +0000 To: Jake Brewer , Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Matthew Glidden I liked nicknames a lot when I was younger and picked Spike from Spike Owen, one of my favorite 80s Mariners players, and a made-for-baseball name if there ever was one. While not a big star, the real Spike fashioned a long, productive career for himself in Seattle, Boston, California, New York, and Montreal. Thanks to Wikipedia, I learned today of this interesting recognition that overlaps cards and the real world: "In 2003, the Spike Owen Memorial Ballpark in Bay Village, Ohio, the site of several games of MLB Showdown, a card game created by Wizards of the Coast, was named after him by Michael Eller, a former Bay Village resident who is both a fan of Owen and an avid Showdown player." On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I've had two nicknames: > In college my friends gave me the nickname "Abe" because I look like a > miniature version of Abraham Lincoln with my beard. > Here in OBC I kind-of gave myself the nickname "The Kid" because I'm the > group's youngest Member; as I was born the year the group was founded in > 1991. It's stuck pretty well, as many of my envelopes have been addressed > to "The Kid". > Side note- no one else may call him this, but from now on I will call Doug > DeJong "Uncle Doug" because of me borrowing "old-fashioned cash" from him > for a deal at a show recently; like he was my uncle haha > -Jake "The Kid" Brewer > On Feb 26, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Mine came in middle school as well, from a science teacher. It started as > Doctor but quickly was shortened to "Doc", and is still used by long time > friends. How did I get that name? Those from the Philly area who've watched > the 'local' version of SCTV's great spoof, "Monster Chiller Horror Theater" > on Saturday afternoon probably will know the answer. The funny thing is I > never saw the show or knew it even existed prior to acquiring my moniker. > A mystery to me is how I got my first name. I heard a couple different > stories but will probably never know for certain at this point. > Regards, > Taylor > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:43 PM > *To:* OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames > As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about > nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the > OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the > newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be > interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email > addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some > OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. > For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's > now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The > Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. > To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a > chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we > would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. > Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As > for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted > eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. What??? > Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I > was in fact the original EEK! > Ok OBC, tell me some stories! > Earl "EEK" Kilbourn > "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 11:03:31 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@yahoogroups.com Subject: Variation request From: biggies@aol.com Anyone have a good Master Variation list for Bowman and Topps cards? '51-'70? Thanks, Bob ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:15:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation request From: richard dingman I have been working on such a list for a while. Check out my webpage https://sites.google.com/site/richarddingmancards/home At the page bottom are links to various sets on which I have been assembling variation lists. Good luck and let me know if you know of anything I have been missing. Richard D Richard Dingman Cards - Google Sites Richard Dingman's Want Lists, Trade Lists (links at page bottom), and Variation Master Lists (links at page bottom) Edited by Steegle From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:03 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; vct@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation request Anyone have a good Master Variation list for Bowman and Topps cards? '51-'70? Thanks, Bob ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 08:34:51 -0800 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Andy Huntoon Hello all, I don't have an OBC nickname, but I did have one in high school that followed me to college and, for some old friends, still continues today. I'm going to regret this I think. My nickname was Boob. Not because I was a boob (although I was sort of) or because I had boobs, or because I really liked boobs (which I did and still do). No, it was short for Willis's African Heritage name on Diff'rent Strokes, Aboobaka. In middle school, we loved that show. And after that episode aired a couple of us kids called each other Aboobaka for a while at school and I got stuck with it. Later shortened to Boob, the name caught on and stuck in high school. Only a few people knew the origins of the name, but everyone liked to use it. I was getting people from my town asking me if I was Boob for years after high school. I guess I left an impression in this town at the time. Ha! Best to all, Andy Boob Huntoon OBC Rules!!! On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I liked nicknames a lot when I was younger and picked Spike from Spike > Owen, one of my favorite 80s Mariners players, and a made-for-baseball name > if there ever was one. While not a big star, the real Spike fashioned a > long, productive career for himself in Seattle, Boston, California, New > York, and Montreal. Thanks to Wikipedia, I learned today of this > interesting recognition that overlaps cards and the real world: > "In 2003, the Spike Owen Memorial Ballpark in Bay Village, Ohio, the site > of several games of MLB Showdown, a card game created by Wizards of the > Coast, was named after him by Michael Eller, a former Bay Village resident > who is both a fan of Owen and an avid Showdown player." > Spike > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I've had two nicknames: >> In college my friends gave me the nickname "Abe" because I look like a >> miniature version of Abraham Lincoln with my beard. >> Here in OBC I kind-of gave myself the nickname "The Kid" because I'm the >> group's youngest Member; as I was born the year the group was founded in >> 1991. It's stuck pretty well, as many of my envelopes have been addressed >> to "The Kid". >> Side note- no one else may call him this, but from now on I will call >> Doug DeJong "Uncle Doug" because of me borrowing "old-fashioned cash" from >> him for a deal at a show recently; like he was my uncle haha >> -Jake "The Kid" Brewer >> On Feb 26, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com >> [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Mine came in middle school as well, from a science teacher. It started as >> Doctor but quickly was shortened to "Doc", and is still used by long time >> friends. How did I get that name? Those from the Philly area who've watched >> the 'local' version of SCTV's great spoof, "Monster Chiller Horror Theater" >> on Saturday afternoon probably will know the answer. The funny thing is I >> never saw the show or knew it even existed prior to acquiring my moniker. >> A mystery to me is how I got my first name. I heard a couple different >> stories but will probably never know for certain at this point. >> Regards, >> Taylor >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on >> behalf of EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] < >> OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:43 PM >> *To:* OBC Ramblings >> *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames >> As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about >> nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the >> OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the >> newbies that I had not seen before. I thought that it would be >> interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email >> addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some >> OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. >> For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's >> now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The >> Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. >> To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a >> chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we >> would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. >> Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As >> for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted >> eek1@att.net but was informed that the address was already taken. >> What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume >> that I was in fact the original EEK! >> Ok OBC, tell me some stories! >> Earl "EEK" Kilbourn >> "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:51:42 +0000 (UTC) To: Andy Huntoon , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: Geno Wagner Most military pilots acquire a call sign along the way, and I was no exception. Mine was Scooby. Some guys see a light come on in the cockpit and start throwing switches, shutting down engines, whatever...without really thinking it through first. I was the opposite. When somenefarious red light popped on, I would pull out my Kodiak can, pop in a Scooby Snack (as I called my chew), and wouldn't touch anything until I had it in the right place in the lower left corner of my mouth. I managed to never screw anything up with that technique...and hence the name. Take Care,Scooby Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:34, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Hello all, I don't have an OBC nickname, but I did have one in high school that followed me to college and, for some old friends, still continues today. I'm going to regret this I think. My nickname was Boob. Not because I was a boob (although I was sort of) or because I had boobs, or because I really liked boobs (which I did andstill do). No, it was short for Willis's African Heritage name on Diff'rent Strokes, Aboobaka. In middle school, we loved that show. And after that episode aired a couple of us kids called each other Aboobaka for a while at school and I got stuck with it. Later shortened to Boob, the name caught on and stuck in high school. Only a few people knew the origins of the name, but everyone liked to use it. I was getting people from my town asking me if I was Boob for years after high school. I guess I left an impression in this town at the time. Ha! Best to all, Andy Boob Huntoon OBC Rules!!! On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 6:41 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I liked nicknames a lot when I was younger and picked Spike from Spike Owen, one of my favorite 80s Mariners players, and a made-for-baseball name if there ever was one. While not a big star, the real Spike fashioned a long, productive career for himself in Seattle, Boston, California, New York, andMontreal. Thanks to Wikipedia, I learned today of this interesting recognition that overlaps cards and the real world: "In 2003, the Spike Owen Memorial Ballpark in Bay Village, Ohio, the site of several games of MLB Showdown, a card game created by Wizards of the Coast, was named after him by Michael Eller, a former Bay Village resident who is both a fan of Owen and an avid Showdown player." On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I've had two nicknames: In college my friends gave me the nickname "Abe" because I look like a miniature version of Abraham Lincoln with my beard. Here in OBC I kind-of gave myself the nickname "The Kid" because I'm the group's youngest Member; as I was born the year the group was founded in 1991. It's stuck pretty well, as many of my envelopes have been addressed to "The Side note- no one else may call him this, but from now on I will call Doug DeJong "Uncle Doug" because of me borrowing "old-fashioned cash" from him for a deal at a show recently; like he was my uncle haha -Jake "The Kid" Brewer On Feb 26, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Mine came in middle school as well, from a science teacher. It started as Doctor but quickly was shortened to "Doc", and is still used by long time friends. How did I get that name? Those from the Philly area who've watched the 'local' version of SCTV's great spoof, "Monster Chiller Horror Theater" on Saturday afternoon probably will know the answer. The funny thing is I never saw the show or knew it even existed prior to acquiring my moniker. A mystery to me is how I got my first name. I heard a couple different stories but will probably never know for certain at this point. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of EEK originaleek1@att.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:43 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames As I was signing off on a Thanks post just now, I got to thinking about nicknames, email addresses and the stories behind them. As I scanned the OBC Address List I recognized many familiar monikers and a few from the newbies that I had not seen before.I thought that it would be interesting to learn about the origins of these nicknames and email addresses. Some are obvious while others... not so much. I'm sure that some OBCers had nicknames back in the day that also might be fun to learn about. For me, I've been called EEK since Junior High or "Middle School" as it's now called. A number of us guys would go to the Red Top Inn for lunch. The Red Top had a half dozen or so pinball machines that got quite a work out. To keep people from hoggin the more popular machines, the owner had a chalkboard with the number of each machine written on it. To "sign up" we would put our initials below the number of the machine we wanted to play. Earl Edward Kilbourn became EEK and it has stuck for all these years. As for my email address, originaleek1@att.net, I originally (I know) wanted eek1@att.netbut was informed that the address was already taken. What??? Having had the nickname since 1959 I took it upon myself to assume that I was in fact the original EEK! Ok OBC, tell me some stories! Earl "EEK" Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 09:08:45 -0800 To: EEK , OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Nicknames From: wite3 ================= To: UVlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 17:34:54 +0000 Subject: MARCH MADNESS basketball card questions From: Aaron Shirley I'm working on the MARCH MADNESS spreadsheet, and have a couple questions/comments: 1) Are sets dated "1980-81" considered vintage or UV? 2) Please make these lists WANT lists rather than HAVE lists, as it makes it MUCH easier on the guys going through pulling stuff for you. 3) I know I had another question, but I can't think of it. Start discussingand maybe it will come back to me! Thanks for your help! ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 12:38:57 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: waiver wire/ Hillbillies, Beatles, battles and baseball From: biggies@aol.com I have the following available to first claimants: 1963 Beverly Hillbillies: #'s 32.58.61.64 1964 Beatles Diary: 21.34.49.53 all A 1964 Beatles Movie "A Hard Days Night": 1.14.20.25.45 1958 Topps Western: 4.34.46.47.69 1965 Topps Battle Cards: 3..13.19.34.47.48.53.60.63.64.66 1968 Topps Game cards: 21 and 26 1962 Post (Box cuts): 40.80.134.146.148.161.171.172.175.185.193.195 (also have Mantle, B Robinson, Mathews and Mazeroski that I would like to trade if I could.) 1963 Post (Box cuts): 20.22.52.94.104.126.160.183 (also have Banks and Drysdale that I'd like to trade for if I could) Lemme know, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 13:27:59 -0500 To: biggies@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: waiver wire/ Hillbillies, Beatles, battles and baseball From: biggies@aol.com Forgot, I also have 6 "Ed-U'Cards" 1964, Cardinal backs, various positions. Let me know if anyone needs any of these. And a 63 Fleer Gene Freese, #33 -----Original Message----- From: biggies To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2017 12:38 pm Subject: waiver wire/ Hillbillies, Beatles, battles and baseball I have the following available to first claimants: 1963 Beverly Hillbillies: #'s 32.58.61.64 1964 Beatles Diary: 21.34.49.53 all A 1964 Beatles Movie "A Hard Days Night": 1.14.20.25.45 1958 Topps Western: 4.34.46.47.69 1965 Topps Battle Cards: 3..13.19.34.47.48.53.60.63.64.66 1968 Topps Game cards: 21 and 26 1962 Post (Box cuts): 40.80.134.146.148.161.171.172.175.185.193.195 (also have Mantle, B Robinson, Mathews and Mazeroski that I would like to trade if I could.) 1963 Post (Box cuts): 20.22.52.94.104.126.160.183 (also have Banks and Drysdale that I'd like to trade for if I could) Lemme know, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 20:11:09 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 69 photo stamps? From: Anthony Looked interesting http://www.ebay.com/itm/MLB-1969-Baseball-Stars-Photostamps-18-Sheets-Complete-Set-Collectible-Cards-/142270568137?hashitem211ffc96c9:g:pPIAAOSw241= Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 20:17:14 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Why I love this group From: Ken M Hi gang,  Got an email a couple days ago from someone outside OBC. They are looking to expand their hockey card collection and he had already found 15 cards on my list. I downloaded their lists (a separate document for each set, so about 8 attached files). Before I look, I warn them about the condition of the cards in my dupes box. No problem on the late 60's sets. The 70's sets are a little nicer - looking for EX on those. No problem. I pull 27 cards and send him the numbers. I get back a spreadsheet with prices (in EX and VG) for every card on each end of the trade. He's offered to send first and asks if I want to take some off of my end, even though I'm getting a better deal by about $3 (based on condition sensitive pricing according to the spreadsheet.) No. I'll send my 27 for your 15. LMK if you're not happy with my end and we'll work something out. Got another email today. One of the cards has a bunch of tiny wrinkles. He's going to put the card through a process using distilled water and press it between smooth blocks to improve it somewhat. I tell him that won't be necessary and suggest that some of my cards look like someone tried to press out the wrinkles by running it over with their car. And so I wait to find out where to send these cards I pulled.   The same trade in OBC: Hey Ken, I found some cards on your list. Send something you think is fair or send nothing if you don't have anything on my list. I don't care. The End.  I can only imagine the detailed care that will go into packing and mailing my hockey cards, so they aren't damaged in transit. Part of me wants to send my return package with rubber bands around the cards. When I first joined OBC, I didn't have much in the way of supplies and wasn't sure about the best way to send stuff to everyone. The first couple months in the group, I sent out a ton of padded envelopes with the cards in rubber bands. A few of the guys loved the old school delivery. I might have to bring th at back if I can find that bag of rubber bands. :-) TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 20:34:27 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Nicknames From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en What Larry forgot to tell you is that you are only allowed to collect 199 of the cards so you can stay below the Mendoza line! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/26/2017 6:52:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: On the OBC web-site click and at the bottom of the FAQ is an article by Josh Levine =E2=9CA Brief OBC History=E2=9D which explains the story behind my nickname =E2=9CGuru=E2=9D Back in the early days of OBC 1991/1992 I recommended investing in Mario Mendoza cards, and was given the nickname =E2=9CGuru of Investments=E2=9D which was shortened to =E2=9CGuru=E2=9D Been that way ever since! ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:02:44 -0500 To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Why I love this group From: Mike Glasser I love this story. I've never been part of any trading group because of stuff like that. OBC is so relaxed, pleasant and fun. I don't iron my clothes and I'm certainly not going to iron any cards. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2017 8:38 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Why I love this group Hi gang, Got an email a couple days ago from someone outside OBC. They are lookingto expand their hockey card collection and he had already found 15 cards on my list. I downloaded their lists (a separate document for each set, so about 8 attached files). Before I look, I warn them about the condition of the cards in my dupes box. No problem on the late 60's sets. The 70's sets are a little nicer - looking for EX on those. No problem. I pull 27 cards and send him the numbers. I get back a spreadsheet with prices (in EX and VG)for every card on each end of the trade. He's offered to send first and asks if I want to take some off of my end, even though I'm getting a better deal by about $3 (based on condition sensitive pricing according to the spreadsheet.) No. I'll send my 27 for your 15. LMK if you're not happy with my end and we' ll work something out. Got another email today. One of the cards has a bunch of tiny wrinkles. He's going to put the card through a process using distilled water and press it between smooth blocks to improve it somewhat. I tell him that won't be necessary and suggest that some of my cards look like someone tried to press out the wrinkles by running it over withtheir car. And so I wait to find out where to send these cards I pulled. The same trade in OBC: Hey Ken, I found some cards on your list. Send something you think is fair or send nothing if you don't have anything on my list. I don't care. The End. I can only imagine the detailed care that will go into packing and mailing my hockey cards, so they aren't damaged in transit. Part of me wants to send my return package with rubber bands around the cards. When I first joined OBC, I didn't have muc h in the way of supplies and wasn't sure about the best way to send stuff to everyone. The first couple months in the group,I sent out a ton of padded envelopes with the cards in rubber bands. A fewof the guys loved the old school delivery. I might have to bring that backif I can find that bag of rubber bands. :-) TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 18:06:02 -0800 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Why I love this group From: Andy Huntoon Hey Ken, I've had trades like this as well. Back when I first set up my want lists online I actually had a dupes box page where I listed all my dupes by number. (I didn't have too many yet back then). I had a really nice guy email me wanting one 1966 hi number that I had listed on my dupes page. I said I'd be happy to trade it if he had any hits to my lists. He then put together a spreadsheet with about 20 hits for me listing the book value and his values based on the appropriate % of book considering condition. A grand total of less than $5.00. My first thought was, "how much time did you put into this trade for so little value?" I felt bad that he spent so much time as I would've been fine with half the cards he offered. Don't get me wrong, he was very nice and I'd trade with him again no problem. I just couldn't grasp the whole procedure for these cards. Best to all, Andy Huntoon On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hi gang, > Got an email a couple days ago from someone outside OBC. They are > looking to expand their hockey card collection and he had already found 15 > cards on my list. I downloaded their lists (a separate document for each > set, so about 8 attached files). Before I look, I warn them about the > condition of the cards in my dupes box. No problem on the late 60's sets. > The 70's sets are a little nicer - looking for EX on those. No problem. I > pull 27 cards and send him the numbers. I get back a spreadsheet with > prices (in EX and VG) for every card on each end of the trade. He's offered > to send first and asks if I want to take some off of my end, even though > I'm getting a better deal by about $3 (based on condition sensitive pricing > according to the spreadsheet.) No. I'll send my 27 for your 15. LMK if > you're not happy with my end and we' ll work something out. Got another > email today. One of the cards has a bunch of tiny wrinkles. He's going to > put the card through a process using distilled water and press it between > smooth blocks to improve it somewhat. I tell him that won't be necessary > and suggest that some of my cards look like someone tried to press out the > wrinkles by running it over with their car. And so I wait to find out where > to send these cards I pulled. > The same trade in OBC: Hey Ken, I found some cards on your list. Send > something you think is fair or send nothing if you don't have anything on > my list. I don't care. The End. > I can only imagine the detailed care that will go into packing and > mailing my hockey cards, so they aren't damaged in transit. Part of me > wants to send my return package with rubber bands around the cards. When I > first joined OBC, I didn't have muc h in the way of supplies and wasn't > sure about the best way to send stuff to everyone. The first couple months > in the group, I sent out a ton of padded envelopes with the cards in rubber > bands. A few of the guys loved the old school delivery. I might have to > bring that back if I can find that bag of rubber bands. :-) TAYL, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 02:50:26 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Bad Winter... From: Ken Pillion It's been a bad winter at my Ole Kentucky home although we've only had about 2 inches of snow total. Started out with health problems including gout and arthritis, had to use a walker to get around work a couple of days. My lap top quit working. Major problems going on at church. One of our dogs died. And the topper was my wife almost being killed in a fiery car wreck on the interstate, and having to deal with insurance companies. Anyway, I've not had much time to work on my collection. But just because I've not been active doesn't mean OBC hasn't been active. I've got a stack of "thanks" to send out later, not to mention return fire. But to get me back in the swing I'm going to toss out a non-sport waiver wire. I've got a small stack of 1952 Wings Friend of Foe for the asking. Please include address. Ken P. Most of these are in OBC condition. 59111121125 x2151180 ================= Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:11:09 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: National Convention (roommate wanted) From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Guru, Spike (Matthew G) , and Taylor S are again staying at Springhill Suites Chicago O=E2=99Hare. Guru and Taylor are assigned a queen bed each, and Spike has dibs on the sofa bed. But I think we have room for one more OBC member who could pack a sleeping bag, and crash on sofa cushions on the floor. I am sure we will have extra pillows LOL. Springhill Suites is very nice it=E2=99s a Marriott property. The hotel provides free shuttle from O=E2=99Hare airport (ORD) to the Hotel. Also free shuttle back to ORD. The hotel provides a free breakfast too. Taylor has a vehicle, so if he drives to the show we can =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D for parking and gas. Another option we can take the free hotel shuttle to the train it=E2=99s only one stop away from the convention center. Or even walk to the train it=E2=99s not to far away. In 2015 the Net54 Dinner was right across the street from the Convention Center, easy transport car-pool or worse case take the train back to hotel. Transport to/from the SWAPnot hard to set up a ride w Taylor or other members who have wheels. Transport downtown for a ball game or other activities via train (hotel shuttle or walk to train). So what I am saying is that if you fly into ORD you are fine without renting a car. We check in Wed July 26 check out Sunday July 30th My total cost (senior discount LOL) $584.77 split four ways your cost $146 or $36.50 a night We are light sleepers so PLEASE DO NOT APPLY IF YOU SNORE Hotel website: http://www.marriott.com/hotels/hotel-photos/chico-springhill-suites-chicago-ohare/ ================= Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 07:17:01 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: More 1968 Milton Bradley (baseball football hot-rods) Available From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Im sure anyone who collects this set is familiar with this article written by Dr Carlton Miller: http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-1968-milton-bradley-set/ Carlton appears to be selling some of his =E2=9Choard=E2=9D (baseballfootball and hot rods) and thanks to a recent purchase from Carlton, I have completed my sets. Carlton said it was OK to share his email address to others who want to complete their sets. Mention my name (not my =E2=9Cnick-name=E2=9D LOL) and also I would mention our collecting club OBC. I don=E2=99t stand to get anything but it will let him know who why he is getting these emails. jos1842 @ gmail.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:28:07 +0000 Subject: OBC protocol question: 1980-81 basketball? From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys Are basketball card sets dated "1980-81" considered vintage or UV? I don't collect basketball cards, so I don't know. Here's a list of the sets with that designation. http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewAll.cfm/sp/Basketball/year/1980 ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Aaron Shirley Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:44:15 +0000 Subject: Re: OBC protocol question: 1980-81 basketball? From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:19:04 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: March Waivers From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- OK, a day early, but I promise not to send them until tomorrow: 1959 Topps:#548 Elmer Singleton 1972 Topps:525 Carlos May526 Ed Bailey674 John Kennedy675Pat Jarvis682 Mike McCormick687 Del Unser Please include your address if you request something! Take Care,Geno ================= Date: 28 Feb 2017 23:49:02 +0000 To: Subject: Buncha 72s available From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:56:09 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: '33 Goudey Gehrig From: Geordie Calvert I have no idea what the going rate for any '33 Goudey Gehrig. Saying that, I was on Net54 just now and saw a thread regarding the following. Warning, it's been trimmed. Actually, it may not really be Gehrig at all, but a guy named Gei. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey-Lou-Gehrig-HOF-Yankees-92-vintage-card-3-DAY-AUCTION-w-BIN-/232256080981?hash=item36138a8c55:g:WcMAAOSwax5YtdHL&rmvSB=true