================= Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 18:23:13 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: W514 trading From: Robert Fitts I just won four lots at the last hunt auction of W514s. I have about 40 doubles in various conditions, no stars all commons. Does anybody have doublesfor Rob fitts Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 09:36:17 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: In Person "Hand-Shake" from Mike Rich From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Mike Rich rolled in =E2=9CGuru-Land=E2=9D last night about 5:30PM driving all the way from Miami. So we were up way to late talking about all things baseball cards as you can imagine:) I grilled some burgers, and then it started to rain, and then a lightning storm arrived and then the power went out for about an hour LOL. So we looked at cards via a flashlight and hurricane lamp LOL! It rained 2.43 inches in about a two hour window. Obvi the A/C was out too, and just as it was getting a bit warm, the power came back on. This morning Mike is going to catch up on his blog and other required duties, then we will drive into Jacksonville to the card shop, and Jacksonville Suns AA baseball game starts at 5. Mike gave me a stack of eight needed 1961 Topps baseball stamps including Aparicio Cepeda and Musial, and two hits 1962 Topps stamps Aparicio and Koufax. Thank You Very Much! ================= Date: 01 Aug 2016 11:24:29 -0700 To: Subject: New Lists Added From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 14:49:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 2.0 From: ED SCHOTT hey guys cant wait to see y'all in AC My travel partner cancelled on me this morning so Im seeking a "little help" I need a place to stay Friday and Sat night let me know if anyone wants to share expenses ED 443 632 6137 On 7/31/2016 7:44 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > OK Kids, 2 days and I hit the road. This is probably the last update > to the roster. I think we have all the bases covered. Make sure you > have Ken's and my phone numbers for when you get to the show so we can > shuttle a badge out to you. The swap is pretty much set at my hotel > Sat night. Make sure you take care of your shuttle drivers, as there > is a cost to park. Don't forget the comfortable shoes, as this may be > the single most important thing you do at the National. Not sure about > where we will have Thursday dinner, We'll scout it out when we get in > Tuesday. I am so itching to rummage through some boxes! > *Name* ** *Cell Phone* *Hotel* *Tues Game* ** *Swap Session* > *Days There* > *Sal* Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North ** *Y* Tu-Su > *Joe* Adriance 703-405-0483 Chelsea ** *N* Th-Fr > *Jerry* Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel ** *Y* F-Su > *Jim* Craig 302-588-0078 Home ** ** Sa > *Wayne* Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's ** ** Th-F > *Jeff* Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal ** ** W-Th > *Richard* Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No ** > *Y* Tu-Su > *Rob* Fitts ** *N* Th-F > *Joel* Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North ** *Y* Th-Su > *Spike* Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon ** *Y* > Th-Su > *Ron* Hoehne 860-751-9337 ** *Y* F-M > *Andy* Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon ** *Y* > W-Su > *Kevin* Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's ** *Y* F-Su > *Ken* Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel ** *Y* M-M > *Nick* Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon ** > *Y* Tu-Sa > *Bob* Reed 203-494-9440 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon ** *Y* W-Su > *Mike* Rich 248-709-2235 Tri Way Motel ** *Y* F-Su > *Steve* Sankner ** ** F > *Taylor* Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No ** *Y* Su-Su > *Ed* Schott 443-632-6137 ? ** *Y* Fr-Sa > *Wes* Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel ** *Y* F-Su > *Chris* Tripler 860-921-7843 ** *Y* Sat > *Randy* Welk 559-392-1733 ** *Y* Sat > *Mac* Wubben 240-423-4605 Chelsea ** *Y* W-Su > ** ** ** > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 01 Aug 2016 13:22:39 -0700 To: Subject: Some waivers: 1966 Topps From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2016 22:00:52 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Settled in AC! From: Ken M I was going to send this to the thanks server, but it turned into a message about the National... and then into a typical long ramble and I decided to pick one server instead of all three... Get comfy :-) Hi everyone,   I got into Galloway, NJ (just outside AC) in just under 6 hours. The ride was very smooth with hardly any traffic or rain. It wasn't brutally hot out either, so I didn't regret not making the drive overnight as I had originally planned. It actually worked out a lot better.   I had planned to stop at the bank after dropping off my daughter before work Saturday. Well, my shift got changed because of a sick call and I ended up dropping her off early - and totally forgetting to stop by the bank that's right around the corner from where the ex is living. Couldn't get there before the bank closed after work Saturday - or all day Sunday - so I decided to wait til it opened Monday and get some cash for the show. I also got to drop off my (the kid's) fish with them and say goodbye for a week. I may have to bring one or both of them with me next year, but we'll figure that out another day.  The motel is everything I anticipated - cheap and... well, cheap. There's a small fridge and a smaller microwave in the room. There's also free wifi, although you probably have to sit in the lobby to use it, as there's barely any signal in the room. (I was originally given a room right above the lobby, but it only had one king bed.) I reserved twin double beds for the *ahem* two people that will be here: Jerrywes and Kenmike. There is room for one more in our carpool - or two if you want to hide in back. We're on White Horse Pike, just off of Garden State Pkwy exit 40 if you want to meet up. I'm in room 217. The number here is (609)404-0324, but I'd recommend calling my cell first anyway.  I walked over to the Denny's that's almost next door because I hadn't eaten for most of the day. I got an appetizer sampler, a burger with fries and was just diving into my dessert when I got a call from TAYLOR SCHOCK. He was nearby and wanted to drop off my refurbished desktop computer. It's state of the art (for 2002) and came with a monitor and keyboard (and a ll the cables) for mere pennies on the dollar for what it probably cost originally. We booted it up and it looked great. Taylor also handed me a very cool assortment of vintage hockey! Bucyk, Richard, Ratelle x2 among them PLUS one baseball card: a 75 Hostess Carlton! Nice! THANKS TAYLOR!!  I was able to pass along a couple empty binders to Taylor, courtesy of SEAN McGOWAN. Sean e-mailed me Sunday and I rushed over there from working in Danvers - before my shift in Quincy started. I got to give him a short break from cleaning his attic and took three huge boxes loaded with empty binders off his hands. THANKS SEAN!! I dropped off one box at my house for all the vintage hockey (and Topps vintage looking baseball) sets I've started. I have two boxes loaded with them if anyone going to the show needs some. (Please take some. Take a whole bunch even.) I'll also be in the market for a case of pages, as I've recently used up the last case I bought ages ago. If anyone wants a box o f 9-pocket pages or wants to split the case, get in touch with me.  Also decided to pop open the box of shirts I brought from Aaron. I knew there were cards in there, but I wanted to wait to open the box anyway. AARON SHIRLEY delivers big time, with my super cool safety orange OBC shirt (and a bunch more for other show attendees, plus some handshakes) and ...And ...AND a great starter set of 1979 OPC cards! Nobody claimed any in my June waiver wire, so I started the set myself - my first foray into the Canadian issue. THANKS AARON!!  Tomorrow is a rare sleep-in day (I'll probably wake up at 6am anyway out of habit) and then get some of the final prep work done when Sal arrives in town around 2 - check out the swap room, pick up the badges and maybe see who's set up at the show early (and/or help Mike McCann set up). Man, I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve :-) TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 07:13:34 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Enjoy the National!! From: Glenn Codere Hey guys, Once again, it's that time of the year when those of us who are unable to make it along to the big gathering feel a strange combination of jealousy, regret, disappointment.....and happiness for those that can make it! Maureenand I have had a very busy summer which has resulted in a decrease in my activity not only in OBC but also in other online groups that I'm involved in. That doesn't mean that I'm not following everyone's adventures though! This time last year, I was holding out real hopes of making it along to AC 2016. Three big factors got in the way of those plans - some major extension work to our home, our decision to visit my young cousin in Colorado who recently successfully underwent the second kidney transplant of her young life (we're flying out in less than 4 weeks time!), and (in my opinion) the stupid decision of UK voters to leave the European Union which has resulted in the UK Pound to US Dollar exchange rate plummeting (Scotland voted 67% to remain in the EU, but we're being dragged out against our wishes due to superior numbers of Leave voters in England and Wales.....political rant over). Even at the best of times, its difficult to justify the expense of flights/accommodation at the height of summer (high season) just to attend The National but these events have made it completely impossible this year. I usually ask someone to birddog a few items for me at the National, but for the most part I'm even passing on that this year with the exception of the Topps Man On The Moon sets which Sal is kindly helping me out with. I'd like to finish by passing along my best wishes to everyone attending this week. I hope you find everything you're looking for, get some great bargains, meet up with old friends and make new ones and just generally enjoy the hell out of it!! Cheers for now! GlennGlasgow, Scotland ps If I could possibly just sneak in one teeny request......if anyone findsa bargain on the last 2 1962T greenies that I need - 138 & 144 - please keep me in mind! I'd be more than happy to paypal a few bucks your way. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 15:16:46 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Prepping for AC From: chris tripler Hey everyone, Pop and I decided the drive back to CT would have been too taxing on Sat. night. So, we're staying at the most popular hotel for OBCers the Clarion Inn and Suites. We're super excited to come down and meet everyone. Finishing off some sets, getting our shirts, doing the handshake thing (I have 16 envelopes... I think I nearly managed to hit everyone), and maybe a late night cocktail/gambling (dad loves the slots...). Looking forward to it, should be pretty amazing (almost as amazing as the day I get all these cards sorted away)... TripOBC 2015 ================= Date: 02 Aug 2016 10:05:43 -0700 To: Subject: 1980 Topps Empire Strikes Back Waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 19:18:22 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: "The National" on Twitter From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Looks like we can follow along on Twitter at #NSCC16 (National Sports Collectors Convention 16) ================= To: Larry Tipton , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:36:08 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Warning From: Yaz It was Frank. He was being billed as "The original Frank Thomas". I heard the words Thiry bucks come out of his mouth and I was stunned I thought I must have misheard and maybe I did but then he went on about how he was ripped off. On 7/29/2016 3:43 PM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Are you talking about Frank Thomas or Lee Thomas? Frank Thomas had a > full run of Topps sets and he sold it for thirty bucks? > Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 21:36:16 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: National Journal - Day 2 From: Ken M Tuesday, Day 2: I've discovered the shower here has two settings. Turn counterclockwise (up to 1/4 turn) for varying levels of cold water - or clockwise (up to 1/2 turn) for scalding water. There is no in between setting, as that shuts off the water. I was able to tolerate turning it all the way clockwise and felt extra clean afterwards, possibly because the dead skin had been burned off my body. I'm writing this for the benefit of my roommates, who may read this before arriving.  The weather has been gloomy and drizzly, but I didn't come here for the beach. There isn't a lot to do besides gamble, which I don't do any more (and why I'm not staying at a couple different casinos on comped rooms. That likely would've cost me more in the long run, but I digress). It did give me an opportunity to update my list online and add the 1979 OPC set. The screen on my phone is too small to properly edit text on my page and I always end up with a billboard size font on any new sets. I bro ught the laptop downstairs and edited my page in the lobby, since the free wifi signal doesn't reach my room on the far end of the motel.  Sal called around 2. It took him half of his entire trip just to get off Long Island, but he made it to his hotel. We checked in, checked out the swap location and headed into the Convention Center to pick up our dealer badges from Mike McCann. We got there just after 4 and they were kicking everyone out at 4:30, so there wasn't a lot of time to talk or look through boxes. We'll get in with the badges any time after 8 tomorrow, but realistically I'm hoping for noon after Sal gets in some needed rest.  We scouted around the outlet stores across from the Convention Center looking for a place to eat as a group on Thursday. Not much progress there, so we headed back towards Sal's hotel (I was driving at this point, since he had enough with driving today). We settled in this Black Cat Bar & Grill, which turned out to be a surprisingly great place to eat. There's plenty of variety for both food and drink, however the place is too small for a big group of us. I had a shrimp appetizer and a "small" calzone, which was about 1/2 a pie. No way I would've finished a large.  Got a couple handshakes from Sal and Nick, which I'll describe on the other server. I'll probably get some sleep after sending that. Sal may have already nodded off by now. Can't wait for tomorrow! TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: OBC ramblings Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 21:17:21 -0500 Subject: Oops! From: Yaz I'm so sorry I misspelled Bill Ashton's name on the thanks server. It will never happen again Bill, promise. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: 03 Aug 2016 07:42:37 -0700 To: Subject: National Buzz From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 21:56:48 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1939 Play Ball #126 fill-in card of Marty Stratton From: Matthew Glidden As many 1939 collectors know, Gum, Inc. never printed #126 for their Play Ball set, very possibly because of contract issues with a Chicago player. There was a nice "what if" collector card for Chisox pitcher Marty Stratton made to fill that spot in 1975. Just rediscovered it today and posting for anyone who hasn't had a look: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=128231 As Dave Hornish noted in that thread, Chicago gets little representation in 1939 Play Ball, likely due to player contract issues with Wrigley. Will have to watch for this #126 at the National! ================= Date: 03 Aug 2016 10:05:58 -0700 To: Subject: New Lists 1954 & 55 Bowman From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 00:14:36 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Day 1.5 at the National and Thanks From: ChicoD1@aol.com Caught up with a bunch of OBCers today. Taylor, Jeff Delott, Mac, Bob Reed. Got off to a GREAT start picking up 184 Cards from Mike McCann. All sorts of stuff. Started (and almost finished) 1980 Burger King. My 50s sets took a beating. Found a bunch of others and I haven't even hit some of our other big dealers. Got cards autographed by my all time favorite Eddie Giacomin, grabbed Roy White and Art Shamsky. On the auto lines, got Bobby Schantz. Bob asked him how old he was and told us 90. The guy looks freakin AMAZING for his age. Also got John "The Count" Montefusco. He was terrific. Asked everyone their name and where they were from. Very cordial and I got to take a picture with him. Oh yeah, Bob also got his autograph signs from Montefusco and Schantz. The guys seem to remember us from previous years asking. Bob, you should list all the one you got autographed over the years. Quite a Swap room is set at $190. If you guys haven't bought tickets yet,don't. Remember, we have badges at $10 per day $30 max. We also have a few parking passes left from today. Carpooling is the way to go. Get a hold of me or Ken and we will be the designated drivers. Remember, all money collected goes to the swap/parking fund (and you save a bunch so you can get another couple of cards for your collection!) Thanks for today to: Mac Wubben- WOW and 1962 Bob Gibson! Jeff Delott- Another WOW with a 72 Hi Number Jim Kaat. almost done with set Bob Reed- WOW again? Yep, a stack of 72 FB including I young afro style John Riggins! Taylor Schock- Holy WOWs! 21 various football hits, 2 1962T greenies for the Colts first year collection, a 55T and a 53T! Thanks for helping me get this National off on the right foot! Having a terrific time so far and it's only getting better when a bunch start heading into Atlantic City. Remember, next year is in Chicago. Those of you who haven't gotten to a National, start planning now. Not even the first full day and I have to revise a bunch of my lists! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 04:19:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "ramblings, OBC" Subject: Milford CT Show report From: talbot1@comcast.net Hello All, The boys in Atlantic City are quite obviously enjoying each others company this opening day evening so it's the perfect opportunity to tell you about the Milford CT Elks Club Show held a couple Sunday's ago (before those reports from AC start to come in). I was in the final days of my visit to NYC to spend time with my daughter and Kendall and I were expecting to visit with some family members in the Bristol area. This set the stage for meeting up with Bob Reed at the small show that is held pretty regularly in the quaint little town. The show opened at 9 am and we arrived very close to that time, Kendall chose to continue to sleep while Bob and I took on the show. There were perhaps up to 15 dealers at this show but fortunately for Bob andI there were about 4 that had primarily vintage material on display. One in particular Chuck Blue who will be set up in AC is where we spent the majority of our time. All in all - it did not take too long to get through thisshow but I still managed to grab some stuff for th collection. I found a couple FB Supers (Griese, Eller), a `71 Super (B.Roby), (4) `64 Stand-ups (Alvis, Ellsworth, Groat & Romano), a `48 Bowman FB (Nickel), a `52 ParkhurstBB (Bankhead), a pair of `61 Fleer Basketball (Selvey & Gambee), a pair ofRingside Boxing cards (Charles & Wolcott), a `69 Transogram (Yaz), a `62 Topps Stamp Panel (Kuenn/Hunt), a `78 Hostess Howell), and a stack of assorted hockey from `54 - `75. Kind of like a day at the National (but obviouslynot - but I can kid myself if I chose). Of course, going to a show is one thing but spending time with any fellow hobbyists always makes the experience better. Bob and i spent a few hours catching up and I have always enjoyed spending time with former National Room-mate Bob Reed. Bob had a handshake for me that included a `63 Bazooka All-Time Great (Plank) and a `63 Pepsi-Cola Tulsa Oilers card (Bloomfield), it's not too often I get anything from those sets and a doughnut from a famousbakery in Bob's hometown of Wallingford. My kid slept through the whole visit so Bob didn't even get a chance to meet her (her loss!!!), Thanks to Bob for meeting me and apologies to Ron Hoehne who attempted to meet up with us at the 2 eateries in Wallingford and New Haven - I understand he had a great day at the beach so all was not lost. Finally, back to the focus of the week - the happenings in Atlantic City. Have a great time guys - I am truly missing your company but was fortunate to connect with a number of our mutual friends during my NYC trip and that has taken some of the sting out of not being able to make the trip this year. Hoist one up for me fellas and bring on those show reports - I will see you again in Chicago!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ------------------ MARK ================= Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 00:36:55 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: First Pics From: ChicoD1@aol.com Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2016 08:00:07 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: National Journal - Day 3 From: Ken M Day 3, Wednesday Aug. 3rd - I got to sleep in, since the show (while opening at 8am for dealers) didn't open for VIP's until 3:30. We had dealer badges, but Sal needed to recover from the taxing drive the day before. By "sleep in", I mean getting up a little AFTER 6am instead of a little before that... force of habit from work.  Had some time to get everything prepped for the first show day. Packed shirts (and handshakes from Aaron) for that day's arrivals. Went for breakfast at Denny's next door and just after I got back, Sal called. Most of us are staying on the same road outside of town. I'm in one of the first places off the GS Pkwy and Sal is in almost the last one before you get into town. It takes less than ten minutes to get from my place to Sal's, then another ten to get to the Convention Center (unless some boat raises the drawbridge just before you get there).  Like yesterday's version of "Escape from NY", today Sal played "Escape from the Comfort Inn", making su re we had everything before we left. We walked into the show around 11am  I think.  First order of business was Mike McCann's table. He has three 5000 ct. monster boxes plus another two row box under his table JUST FOR US. (You need to ask for them.) The two row box has his 'pricey' fifty cent/dollar cards and the monster boxes are a nickel each or 25 for a buck - plus he knocks off a little more. I found a couple TV highs and a 1960 Bunning in the nickel box and some horizontal hockey (love that set) in the 50 cent/dollar box. Mike also had some bins with 2/5/10 dollar cards that I didn't go through because while I was plodding through his monster boxes, Mike McCann bird dogged a stack of Red Man at *another dealer's table*! I settled up with Mike and went across the aisle to pick up 17 (mostly 1953) Red Man cards for $2 each and there was a 1953 Musial for $15. Most of these were the tougher May dates too. After Mike Rich gets what he needs, these will be on the DS serve r as a good starter set.  We then realized it was close to 3 pm and the VIP party was getting underway. Stopped by Jerry Nelson's table on the way out and I found myself furiously making a pile out of one of his bins because I noticed some late Fleer cards on my list in there. Jerry set those aside and we went outside the show to meet up with Mac, who had walked over from his hotel. Mac handed me one of his three vintage hockey cards in his dupes box - a horizontal Bobby Hull! THANKS MAC!!  Got our VIP packages and went to the reception. I swapped off my dealer badge and gave it to Mac, so he went into the show while Sal and I went to wolf down some pizza and wait for Ed Giacomin's autograph. It was the longest of the four lines and Sal ducked out to get Roy White and Art Shamsky auto's when their lines were exhausted. Snapped a pic on Sal's camera and we headed back into the show.   Saw Kevin Savage's table and picked up some stuff there, then headed back to Jerry's tab le to purchase those cards he was holding for me, plus I started the 1970 super set with a 30 out of 42 card lot. I decided with most of my favorite dealers already visited, I would start my usual methodical walk through the show, starting in the first row. This was mostly because the only other dealer I wanted to see (JD Heckathorn) was in row 2. I made it through almost 3 rows before my phone died and I had spent a ton of money. The big purchase was a set killing T205 Joss - the #1 card on my list. Has a bit of paper loss on the back and I finally broke down and paid more than I did for my Cobb.  Got to JD's table and grabbed a bunch of panels for my 1978 Hostess set. A lot of those won't remain in panel form much longer. :-) Met up with Jeff Delott along the way and he handed me some very sharp hockey cards. THANKS JEFF!!  I also found a few future DS cards that some of you may want to get your piece of the National by purchasing at my cost. Look for those on another se rver soon. Spent about half the money I brought for the show and my phone with my list was dead, so it was fortunate that the sneak peek finished up shortly thereafter. I plan to be better prepared (and hopefully more frugal) going forward.  A few of us wandered (and I use that term literally) over to a restaraunt/tavern near the Convention Center, where we were served some very good and moderately priced italian cuisine. I dropped Sal off, then headed back to the motel to update my lists (and charge my phone). It was already after midnight and I was much too tired to type up a report. I think I was asleep before my head hit the pillow. Another full day tomorrow (today). TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: 04 Aug 2016 15:27:17 -0700 To: Subject: Football Waiver Wire From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: 04 Aug 2016 18:44:47 -0700 To: Subject: Antique car question From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 00:20:09 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: National Journal - Day 4 From: Ken M Day 4: Thur. Aug. 4: Got up, go ready and got to the show with Sal at about 9:30. Almost everyone else got there around the same time. Went inside, then came back out to get the last two in the door. Sal and I spent the first couple hours on a scavanger hunt trying to get all the free junk that came with our Super VIP packages. We got the badge upgrade for the free parking passes, but we also got double the UV junk. For that, I'm doubly indifferent. I did get to kill a lot of time without killing my bankroll or my phone though.  Finally decided to break out our wantlists and we parted ways. I stumbled into one table that had 3 1959's: Gibson RC (to ice Sal's set), a Spahn variation and a no option variation - $60. Found Sal still sitting at Ron Estes table and told him I was starting a new second set (and showed him the Gibson. Spent a while sorting a pile of Hostess cards and really pounding those lists. Picked up a few 1975 Twinkies there too. I may have to add those soon. jjjjmmmuuu  I have a problem. I find it very difficult to turn down a Mickey Mantle kk in the 50-70 dollar range. I have a small stack with two 58's, and a 59, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 69. If any of those are interesting to you, PLMK.  There's going to be a bunch more arriving tomorrow, so I need to get some shut eye. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 07:31:19 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Mini milestone From: familytoad@comcast.net the last stack of cards on my desk from recent mailings.

My version of the Topps Run is down to 99 cards to complete !

This is a modified run since I am *not* collecting 1952 Topps high numbers, and of course the run stops at 1980.

I also am not collecting every variation along the way, one version is good enough for me (except 1962 green tints, Ihave those)

It's about 16,700 cards or so in my version from 1952-1980.

I never thought I'd get this close, and the best thing to me isthat I really don't need that many of the biggest cards. I have all the Mantles , Aarons etc...I do need Ryan and Rose rookies which will probably bethe last ones that I get since I am not a big fan of those guys.

1967 is the one that hurts the most, I need 30 high numbers. Aargh , I will go after those before the year is out.

Anyway, it felt good to be down in double digits after all these years!

Not even remotely possible without the fellowship from you guys here. I cannot thank you enough for sharing the ride!

OBC Forever,
Brian

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: "'Ken M'" , Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:18:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National Journal - Day 4 From: "Bob Donaldson" Big thanks to Ken and others for sending out these reports. I was really looking forward to the National this year. But life interfered :) How have prices been? Have there been a lot of deals on 50-60s stuff? Howabout From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 12:20 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National Journal - Day 4 Day 4: Thur. Aug. 4: Got up, go ready and got to the show with Sal at about9:30. Almost everyone else got there around the same time. Went inside, then came back out to get the last two in the door. Sal and I spent the firstcouple hours on a scavanger hunt trying to get all the free junk that camewith our Super VIP packages. We got the badge upgrade for the free parkingpasses, but we also got double the UV junk. For that, I'm doubly indifferent. I did get to kill a lot of time without killing my bankroll or my phonethough. Finally decided to break out our wantlists and we parted ways. I stumbledinto one table that had 3 1959's: Gibson RC (to ice Sal's set), a Spahn variation and a no option variation - $60. Found Sal still sitting at Ron Estes table and told him I was starting a new second set (and showed him the Gibson. Spen t a while sorting a pile of Hostess cards and really pounding those lists. Picked up a few 1975 Twinkies there too. I may have to add those I have a problem. I find it very difficult to turn down a Mickey Mantle kk in the 50-70 dollar range. I have a small stack with two 58's, and a 59, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 69. If any of those are interesting to you, PLMK. There's going to be a bunch more arriving tomorrow, so I need to get someshut eye. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:52:14 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 57 mid series From: Rick Can any one tell me the numbers for the hard mid series I'm not home to look in the book Sent from my iPad ================= To: "'Rick'" , Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 13:54:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series From: "Bob Donaldson" Good luck From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:52 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series Can any one tell me the numbers for the hard mid series I'm not home to look in the book Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 14:43:34 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series From: jdelott@aol.com To those at the National, the last booth at the end of the row, the side closer to the food court, the end near the autographs, the dealer had about 40 1957 Topps midseries in VG for $2 a pop - along with other Topps high series for same price for other years. Jeffrey Delott -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'Rick' ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 1:54 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series Good luck From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:52 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series Can any one tell me the numbers for the hard mid series I'm not home to look in the book Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:46:51 -0400 To: OBC_National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Report From: jdelott@aol.com I attended a Long Island National card show earlier thisyear that was so disappointing, I wondered if I would ever go to another cardshow. This year=E2=99s National curedthat notion, even though I only got to attend for two days - workwould not enable me to stay longer. I bought a one day passwhich I used the first day. The second day Ken brought me a badgefor my entry. Thanks again forthat. Who I met: SalDomino, Joe Adriance, Andy Huntoon, Ken Morganti, Nick Pelletier, Bob Reed, MacWubben and Spike Glidden. Handshakes and card exchanges all around. These gifts needed to be opened immediately to ensure thattheywere crossed off the WL before entering the show. Who I missed: Joel Freedman, Wayne Delia, Richard Dingman, Taylor Schock, and RobFitts. I was unable todistribute those packages, so I guess U.S. Mail will have to do. Unfortunately, I was unable to spendtime after the show with anybody as I traveled with my wife, who insisted onsome face time and blackjack. Shelost, not much, which is the price I paid for her allowingto me to ignore herall day. Highlights: Assuspected, I got none of my priorities. I did close out upgrading some inserts sets, although at this point myWL is nearly entirely upgrading. Ispent the most time and money at two places. First, Jerry Nelson, who on day one I almost missed untilNick, who was working there, stopped me. I bought a lot of inserts: 64 coins, 70 Supers, Kaline peel off, Gibsondeckle, Raditz embossed, 67 posters, and other regular issues. Jerry was cognizant of, and accommodated as much as he could, my desire for paying no more than 10% of book. The other mainstay was Battersbox: very decent stars reasonably priced: VG/Ex 55 Topps Snider $60, VG 54 Topps Skowron $10, G/VG 54 Topps Williams 250$75, VG/EX 53 Bowman Hodges $30, VG 58 Clemente $35, VG 60 Yankees Team $8,VG/Ex 62 Koufax $15, and VG/EX 71 Munson $12. I also bought a ton of 53 Bowman commons. Best of all, they took credit cards, sothere was cash in case I needed it for other cards elsewhere. Elsewhere included a VG/EX 57 Banks for$13, an OC EX 57 Mays for $40, and VG/EX 60,63, and 71 highs for $2 a piece, all at different places. Here=E2=99s hoping 2020 brings the National back to East Coast. Jeffrey Delott ================= To: "'yahoogroups'" Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 15:25:54 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series From: "Grant Rainsley" Jeez=E2=A6=E2=A6..2 bucks a pop=E2=A6=E2=A6..if anyone is hitting THAT table, I=E2=99d appreciate you snagging me what you can from this list, and I know there won=E2=99t be a Sandy or a Brooks: 266 267 269 270 271 272 276 277 279 280 284 285 286 287 288 290 293 295 296298 300 302(Sandy) 304 305 306 311 312 317 320 322 323 324 328(Brooks) 329331 334 335 336 337 338 341 342 344 351 Happy to reimburse including shipping=E2=A6=E2=A6and maybe packing material if possible=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.. Thanks, Grant From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:44 AM To: obcbobd@gmail.com; rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series To those at the National, the last booth at the end of the row, the side closer to the food court, the end near the autographs, the dealer had about 40 1957 Topps midseries in VG for $2 a pop - along with other Topps high series for same price for other years. Jeffrey Delott -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'Rick' ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 1:54 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series Good luck From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:52 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series Can any one tell me the numbers for the hard mid series I'm not home to look in the book Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:39:55 -0500 Subject: Re: National Journal - Day 4 From: "George Vrechek" Thanks, Ken, for the Day at the National updates. It is like being there, almost, just minus the cards and plus the money involved. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:04:14 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re mini milestone From: Larry Tipton congrats Brian! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 08:35:26 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ebay item which I never saw- 1963 Pepsi From: Anthony Check out. Seller as two http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-PEPSI-COLA-TULSA-OILERS-2-CARD-PANEL-JERRY-WILD-JON-SMITH-NM-/371682941432?hashitem568a0799f8:g:CDcAAOSwZVlXiEwt Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:36:35 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Fwd: Short National Report From: Andy Huntoon Hit send by accident... The dealers are great too. When they see you're in OBC they welcome you right away. And the deals are unreal. Dinners with the guys after the show are fun too. Last night at Applebee's Spike was updating his lists on his laptop at the table. The waitress cracked us up when she didn't notice Sal who was sitting right in front of her. Went to Ceasers last night with Sal, Nick, Spike and Bob and watched Spike enjoying the huge Britney Spears slot machine a little too much. Then I found myself staring at the blackjack dealer at Nick's table a little too long. All I can say about her is tata's and wow. I can't wait for the swap tonight! I'll try to post some more later. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Andy Huntoon > Date: August 6, 2016 at 11:25:25 AM EDT > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Short National Report > Hey guys. > I'm out for a smoke break so I figured I'd post a short report. I have had a blast so far. All the guys here have been great. I've met so many OBCers and it's true that even when you first meet these guys it's like meeting up with an old friend. > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 12:12:04 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Yahoo Mail Servers From: LAWRENCE TIPTON They seem to be acting weird and taking hours for sent messages to appear? Sent Saturday 12:11 EST ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:01:00 +0000 Subject: T202 From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I sent this note several hours ago, yet do not see it listed on the yahoogroups webpage. I thought I would try again, as I really need some advice onthis one.... Of course, if it ends up coming through twice, I am doubly sorry! Be happy, My friends, The seller of this item and I have come together on a fair price for this "card" ($65) if it is legit. There were some reprints that used this same middle image but with different ends.... Without the ends to see I have reservations. Any experts want to weigh in? I would also have a line on the Stovall side, so would be in the market for the Austin.... IF this turns out..... Be happy, John Scott Gray https://www.ebay.com/itm/172280149492 Sent from Outlook ================= Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 21:31:50 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Who needs a 1969 Joe Moeller white letter variation #444 From: The subject sort of says it all. I picked up a small group of white letter variations, but already had the Joe Moeller. Not Mint, but definitely a solid VG. Way too hard to look through wantlists for this guy. First come, first served (which means all of us NOT at the national might have a shot at it). Please include your address. ================= Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 19:01:29 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waiver wires in honor of the National From: Doug DeJong All - It is Saturday night and as Peter has stated (repeatedly!) those at the National shouldn't be having all the fun. I hit up a hotel show in the area today (more on that later) and picked up some things needing a home. Will try to spread them around if the response is significant. Please include your address and give me a few days to get them to the Post Office. All cards are Mint - Near Mint with the following qualifiers: OC, Miscut, Writing, Creases, scuffing, staining, marks, missing parts, etc. Since none are professionally graded I guess I should list them as reprints, but I won't. Enjoy ---- Doug 1953 Topps 67 (Tipton) 1955 Topps 58 167 192 1955 Bowman 195 1956 Topps 246 321 1957 Topps 28 188 228 254 305 314 386 1958 Topps 14 72 146 274 394 1959 Topps 13 19 54 64 95 96 124 179 182 194 195 289 313 358 437 480 482 1960 Topps 72 1961 Topps 217 309 390 402 1962 Topps 7 156 256 476 1963 Topps 37 47 140 149 240 299 1964 519 1967 170 181 185 404 1971 586 638 677 1976 154 315 369 494 660 1972 Kelloggs ATG 11 1960 Topps 71 76 84 102 111 1961 Topps Just started this set and have some extra-Tipton dupes 13 30 33 34 35 62 74 82 84 92 100 109 115 Davy Crocckett Orange Backs 34 76 ================= Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 10:30:41 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: National Journal, Day 5 From: Ken M Sat. Aug. 6th, Day 5 of my National trip. Didn't get a chance to report on Friday's adventure, but Wes and Jerry arrived that night as we were leaving our post-show dinner get together. We stayed up late catching up and I had barely enough time to send out a quick thank you note and update my list before the night ended and the morning was underway.  Earlier at the show, I had made some progress through the floor to about half way. Paul Korst's table yielded a bunch of hits to various sets including the last two 1977 Hostess. That's been a short list for a while, so I was real happy about that. A couple good buys at the show included a 1971 Fleer WS #69 (one of the rare extension cards) featuring the 1971 WS and Roberto Clemente in a dollar box. The other memorable purchase were three 1959 Topps cards at one table: a Giallombardo no option, the Spahn "3 unobscured" variation and a tipton Bob Gibson RC - all for $60. I caught up with Sal soon after and told him I had started a new set, then flashed the Gibson RC he needed to finish his set (I was kidding about starting the new set of course).  Yesterday's haul included the final cards for my 1971 WS set (the extended cards not included). Found a table with a few T205's for $15 each (most with scrapbook back damage). One was an acceptable Polar Bear back on my list. Finally made it to the far end of the show and Larry Dean's table. Got a few nice hits and a handshake from JERRY BARNES of two Hostess SP's. THANKS JERRY!!  The swap was spectacular. The room was one of the best venues we've ever had. Plenty of tables and chairs to spread out and move about looking through dupes boxes. After selling the nickel boxes all week, Mike McCann DONATED THEM to the swap to pick through for free. He's just gold in my book - a dealer who really embraces the OBC spirit as much as (or more than) someone one the other side of the table should be allowed. The "show and tell" part of the swap was great also. Ed b rought part of his 65 x 9 set project and Wes showed off his complete Dayton Daily News set. I had my 1952 Topps set minus my trimmed Mantle that I left at home. Almost everyone on the roster for the week got to attend. The only negative note was that a few had to leave early and it was one of the shortest swaps I've attended. We had everything pretty much wrapped up by 11 o'clock.  That may have been a good thing though, as I fought to stay awake while I updated my list and sent out a quick thank you note. Sunday will wrap things up as the last hangers on say good-bye and look forward to Chicago in 11 months. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 13:43:27 +0000 Subject: T202 help From: Jo Meyer and John Gray ================= Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 00:17:01 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Houston we have a problem. From: ChicoD1@aol.com You are gonna love this one. At the swap, I brought down the wrong box. One of the boxes was of the stuff I bought at the National. Stuff like 61F (including Yaz) and a bunch of other things. I will ask that if anyone pulled stuff from my box, PLEASE let me know what you pulled and if it was from my purchased box. Of course I will make good on any cards you wanted in some other form. Talk about going into a panic, there's some dollars in that box that I really need to recover. Please check your stacks from the swap and I'll let you know if its anything I purchased at the show. Thanks for understanding, your picks will be replaced somehow. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 10:13:38 -0600 To: Jo Meyer and John Gray , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] T202 help From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 01:33:09 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Houston we have a problem From: ChicoD1@aol.com Turns out to be a minor one. In my haste to bring my dupe boxes down to the swap, instead of bringing Sal #1, I brought down the box that had all the cards I bought at the National all week. Either you guys don't like my dupes box or weren't paying attention. I bought some cool stuff this week LOL. I audited all that I bought and only found I was missing 53T 4, 18,54, 187, 195, 229 54T 131 61T 353 61F 126 Had a bunch of 52Ts in there, but I have no want list. So they are probably all commons I pulled from Ron Estes box. No idea how many I purchased. If you have any of these, I'll swap em back for other goodies. I'm only concerned if any of them are stars. If they are commons, enjoy em! BTW Wes, I actually had another Namath, that one I bought for the swap! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:22:34 -0400 Subject: Free Cards! Yeah Yeah Yeah From: "Bob Donaldson" Picked up a bunch of Beatle cards at an Antique shop. Included the following dups. FCFS Beatle Color Cards 48 36 58 Beatles 3rd Series 144 133 125 137 140 143 146 153 156 157 163 160 Beatles 2nd Series 106 ================= To: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:19:25 -0400 Subject: 1976 Topps Traded - Blank Back From: "Bob Donaldson" Got a 1976 Topps Traded Ken Henderson with a blank back. A common ================= Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 19:47:23 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: National ramble, short version From: OBC Nick P I'm home. It's been ten days since I left. The last 23 hours have been spent either driving or riding in a car from New Jersey to Minnesota. Many thank yous and stories to come. Just not now. Time for bed. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 21:33:52 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: National experience From: Andy Huntoon Hello all! I said goodbye to Bob and Spike this morning as they headed out for the final day of the show. Then I took my sweet time getting ready to check out and head home. When I got home this afternoon my wife and kids took all my attention so I still haven't had time to organize everything and get thanks out to everyone. That will hopefully come tomorrow. For now I just wanted to say that allof you who I met the last four days have been wonderful, kind, generous and welcoming. The show wouldn't have been anywhere near as fun without you all. I'm looking forward to posting a long thank you email tomorrow and an even longer ramble about my whole experience as well. OBC F-ing RULES!!! Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 22:18:50 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 Topps Traded - Blank Back From: Ken M Bob,  It's not common, but not unheard of either. There could be a premiun if it's a blank backed proof of some kind (and there's a color or picture difference) I'm not sure if there's a market for it, since it's not a star - although Sal might give you a king's ransom for his HOM'er :-) I have a blank back Saberhagen RC I got in a pack once. Too bad he was somewhat of a flash in the pan. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2016 8:27 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1976 Topps Traded - Blank Back Hi Got a 1976 Topps Traded Ken Henderson with a blank back.  A common occurrence? Thanks Bob ================= Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2016 22:22:27 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 Topps Traded - Blank Back From: Ken M Shoot, I misread the name... It's not Ken Harrelson, so your cash windfall from Sal has disappeared. Sorry, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sun, Aug 7, 2016 8:27 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1976 Topps Traded - Blank Back Hi Got a 1976 Topps Traded Ken Henderson with a blank back.  A common occurrence? Thanks Bob ================= To: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 21:58:41 -0500 Subject: Prospective new member interested in T218s, T30, T220, T225 etc. From: "George Vrechek" David Luftig of Urbana, Illinois, contacted me recently and seems to be right up our alley. He re-started collecting by getting enthused about T218s. He is interested in going through the application process for OBC. I am trading some T218s with him. His other interests include: T220s, T225, Ogden's Pugilists, T-30 Hassan Arctic set and other non-sport tobacco sets. Condition is not much of an issue and he is ramping up his collecting. Let me know if you are into any of those sets, or you can contact him directly at davidluftig@gmail.com. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:05:27 -0700 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Prospective new member interested in T218s, T30, T220, T225 etc. From: Stamper I'm doing the T218 set and have some dupes. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Aug 7, 2016, at 7:58 PM, "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > David Luftig of Urbana, Illinois, contacted me recently and seems to be right up our alley. He re-started collecting by getting enthused about T218s. He is interested in going through the application process for OBC. I am trading some T218s with him. His other interests include: T220s, T225, Ogden's Pugilists, T-30 Hassan Arctic set and other non-sport tobacco sets. Condition is not much of an issue and he is ramping up his collecting. Let me know if you are into any of those sets, or you can contact him directly at davidluftig@gmail.com. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 00:54:30 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: National Journal - final entry From: Ken M Aug. 7th, Day ...whatever. It's been a long and somewhat tiring week. After all the planning and prep work from the week (and months) before to the week long marathon of walking the aisles and helping everyone get the most enjoyment out of their experience as possible, today was bittersweet. On one hand, it was sad to see it come to an end. On the other hand, it was a relief to see it come to an end. I didn't buy too much, since many of the dealers closed up early or had left already. The aisles were nearly empty, except for hand carts and dealers carrying their material out to pack for the drive home.  I spent most of the time wishing dealers and OBC'ers safe travels and hoping to see them again next year (or in Wilmington, MA if they were going to set up there in Nov.) I did pick off a couple more 1970 supers from JD and bought some more from Mike McCann just because. I may have walked out of the show with more money than I started with, since I settled up with Sal for his Gibson RC and a 55 Snider that I found cheap. Part of me also wanted to save money for the ride home and the fact that I only worked one day last week, so the paycheck will be small this week.  After I left the show, I returned to the hotel for one more night. I also sorted through some email and addressed a couple envelopes with some DS cards that were sold to guys who couldn't attend. Ed Schott joined me for the night rather than drive back to Baltimore, so that was good. Look for one last DS post after he looks over what I have left for his buddy. My migraine, which annoyed me for most of the day, finally gave up after a short nap and a second round of Excedrin.  I'm already looking forward to next year in Chicago, where hopefully a lot of our favorite dealers - and a lot of our favorit-er OBC'ers will return. It's July 26-30, 2017, so mark your calandars, put in for your time off and start socking away some money.  Thanks to everyone who attended, whether I met you f or the first time or the twenty-first time. It's fun searching through bins full of cheap, beat up cardboard, but it's way more fun just hanging out with you bunch of nuts. Thanks for making my trip such a great time. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: 08 Aug 2016 12:36:36 -0700 To: Subject: Laminated Card From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 19:59:41 +0000 (UTC) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Ichiro Ticket stub? From: Dan Angland Anyone know how to acquire tickets that go unused by MLB? I am trying to score one from Ichiros 3,000 hit game.Thanks, Dan Angland ================= Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:49:53 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: White letter Joe Moeller is gone, and the winner is.... From: I must say, there was a plethora of people looking for Joe. I should have known with the number of variation collectors we have. I apologize to all who asked, the first one in was none other than Aaron Shirley. Congrats. Joe went out today. ================= Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 21:24:51 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Topps cards posted From: ChicoD1@aol.com I think I got just about all of the Topps cards we all made at the National. Check 'em out on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/oldbaseballcards/ Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 21:49:47 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mini milestone From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Congratulations. I will say that if you are able to do the 1952 low # and the 1953 set, the 1951 Red and Blue backs should be quite doable. I think you should add them to your list. The 1952 hi #s I understand skipping. I did pick up 1 of the last 3 "common" hi #s I need to complete my Toppsrun at the National. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 5, 2016 3:31 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mini milestone I had to share this, as I was putting away the last stack of cards on my desk from recent mailings. My version of the Topps Run is down to 99 cards to complete ! This is a modified run since I am *not* collecting 1952 Topps high numbers,and of course the run stops at 1980. I also am not collecting every variation along the way, one version is goodenough for me (except 1962 green tints, I have those) It's about 16,700 cards or so in my version from 1952-1980. I never thought I'd get this close, and the best thing to me is that I really don't need that many of the biggest cards. I have all the Mantles , Aarons etc...I do need Ryan and Rose rookies which will probably be the last ones that I get since I am not a big fan of those guys. 1967 is the one that hurts the most, I need 30 high numbers. Aargh , I willgo after those before the year is out. Anyway, it felt good to be down in double digits after all these years! Not even remotely possible without the fellowship from you guys here. I cannot thank you enough for sharing the ride! OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 21:59:49 -0400 To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com, vrechek@ameritech.net, davidluftig@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Prospective new member interested in T218s, From: mikesportsfan@aol.com As you can see from the below, I am on OBC with George Vrechek. I have one of the larger boxing collections in the group. At the National this past week, I completed my T-220 white border set! I have already completed the T-218 base set. I picked up some T-225s and a number of other boxing cards of that era at the National, including a stack of T-220 dupes. I do not collect non-sports AT ALL! I am still on the road, but expect to return home later this week. I have not yet updated my OBC on line lists (you can tell by the date on the lists) and the boxing is listed on the Multi-Sport list. Please send me your wantlists and I will see what I may have that you need.I am especially interested in T-225s, T-219s, T-220 silver borders and other prewar boxing. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: George Vrechek Cc: Sent: Sun, Aug 7, 2016 11:05 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Prospective new member interested in T218s, T30, T220, T225 etc. I'm doing the T218 set and have some dupes. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Aug 7, 2016, at 7:58 PM, "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: David Luftig of Urbana, Illinois, contacted me recently and seems to be right up our alley. He re-started collecting by getting enthused about T218s. He is interested in going through the application process for OBC. I am trading some T218s with him. His other interests include: T220s, T225, Ogden'sPugilists, T-30 Hassan Arctic set and other non-sport tobacco sets. Condition is not much of an issue and he is ramping up his collecting. Let me know if you are into any of those sets, or you can contact him directly at davidluftig@gmail.com. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 23:09:06 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: I couldn't help myself, but... From: Ken M ..does anyone have a copy of a recent SCD? I'm interested in the entry for 1971 Kellogg's #45 Carlos May. I was putting away a group lot I won on eBay just before I left for the National, checking for upgrades. I also compared stats on a couple cards (why, I don't know) and found two different numbers in Carlos' 1970 and career hits columns (157/158 and 272/273). These both had the copyright BTW. I'm assuming the 158 season and 273 career hits are the tougher of the two, since the one without the copyright also has the lower numbers. If it's not listed, I don't know whether to be excited for discovering an uncataloged card or hate myself for doing what would really tick me off if someone else had found it 45 years later. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Ken M Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 03:26:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I couldn't help myself, but... From: Mac Wubben It is listed as a variation. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:09 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I couldn't help myself, but... ...does anyone have a copy of a recent SCD? I'm interested in the entry for1971 Kellogg's #45 Carlos May. I was putting away a group lot I won on eBay just before I left for the National, checking for upgrades. I also compared stats on a couple cards (why, I don't know) and found two different numbers in Carlos' 1970 and career hits columns (157/158 and 272/273). These both had the copyright BTW. I'm assuming the 158 season and 273 career hits are the tougher of the two, since the one without the copyright also has thelower numbers. If it's not listed, I don't know whether to be excited for discovering an uncataloged card or hate myself for doing what would really tick me off if someone else had found it 45 years later. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 23:38:27 -0400 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I couldn't help myself, but... From: Ken M Thanks Mac! Maybe it's time to get a newer SCD... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Mon, Aug 8, 2016 11:27 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Ken M;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I couldn't help myself, but... It is listed as a variation. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:09 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I couldn't help myself, but...  ...does anyone have a copy of a recent SCD? I'm interested in the entry for 1971 Kellogg's #45 Carlos May. I was putting away a group lot I won on eBay just before I left for the National, checking for upgrades. I also compared stats on a couple cards (why, I don't know) and found two different numbers in Carlos' 1970 and career hits columns (157/158 and 272/273). These both had the copyright BTW. I'm assuming the 158 season and 273 career hits are the tougher of the two, since the one without the copyright also has the lower numbers. If it's not listed, I don't know whether to be excited for discovering an uncataloged card or hate myself for doing what would really tick me off if someone else had found it 45 years later. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 03:44:59 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: national ramble, extended version From: nick pelletier does this ramble get Morganti long? we will find out It was a very long trip. I left my house Friday morning a few days before the national. I was riding with friend and OBC pregfered dealer Jerry Nelson. He wanted to set up at the Columbus show. There were two other Minnesota dealers that were doing the Ohio show en route to AC. The four of us spent a lot of time together drinking beer, eating and just chewing the fat. I had a great time. I spent a fair ammount of time wondering the show finding a few hots including some 1972 High number football for $5-$7. I had to buy those. I made some progress on the only shiny set I was working on. I also spent a good ammount of time hitting JD Heckathorn's football. After the show on Sunday I helped Jerry load out and we hit the road with the other two MN dealers. We decided to spend the night in Harrisburg PA. Across the street was a sports bar we decided to hit up for dinner. I had a Philly Cheese steak and was quite disappointed....more to come on that. Monday morning we woke up got on the road and went to the convention centerin AC. Jerry got his registration packet and was ready for tuesday mornings load in. Tuesday morning we got there about 7am, an houyr before the doors opened and were at least 50 vehicles back to load in. Jerry drove up to his table and I helped him unload the truck and set up histable. It goes without saying but driving up to the table is so mucheasier than carrying everything in or out of the center. Wednesday through Saturday have been pretty well hashed out by everybody else.....looking for cards, buying cards, talking to OBCers, having a good time, I only had one issue at the show. One dealer seriously pissed me off. He had an entire book of 1972 football high numbers. These areall bears. Tough to find and expensive when you do. This book easily had 500 72 highs in there. Nothing on his table was priced. NOTHING! If it were anything else, anything but 72 highs I'd haveleft. I talked to him. He told me the rough ones would be around $6 otherwise $10 and up. I went through his book and pulled out 13cards the cleanest of which had major creases, the lower grades looked to have been run over with a car or stapled to something. Ok, good, ill check out. He takes the 13 cards and looks everyone of them up in a beckett. GRRRRR! Rather than telling me a number he hems and haws, then asks me what I want to pay. NO! price your cards. He decides to return to the Beckett and look them up again, maybe the book changed in the last five minutes. He still wont tell me a number. Hewants to go card by card asking me what I want to pay for it. First card I tell his $6. Second card I tell him $6 He is getting upset. I tell him if Im going to go card by card Ill tell you $6 for each and every one. He goes on and on about how "he will sell the shit out of these" I guess thats why he still has a full album of them on aSaturday at the national. He didnt believe me when I said Ill put emall back, did just that and walked away. Dealers, PRICE YOUR CARDS!!!! On Saturday the show ended and I helped Jerry load out to his truck. We couldnt stay for sunday because life got in the way. After loading the truck Jerry gave me a ride to the Swap Session where a great time was had. JOEL FREEDMAN decided he needed to start me on a few new sets...thanks I think. After the Sawp Jerry and I gt on the road. We drove all night and allthe next day. Jerry got home about 5pm. I made it to Minnesotaabout 8pm sunday. I was exhausted and went to bed quickly. Specifically to the cards....I was hoping to get my version of the topps run up to 99% complete. I came up 29 cards short and ended up at 98.90% almost there! My run is only 332 cards away from completion. I had very low expectations for AC. Boy oh boy was I wrong. It was a great national. One of the most fun Ive had. I cant wait for Chicago 2017. What a great tine digging for cards and spending time with the OBCers. Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 23:22:53 -0500 Subject: back from Mexico with a "treasure" From: Aaron Shirley I just got back Saturday night from a short trip to Mexico to build a housewith a mission organization. Awesome trip and I didn't even get sunburned! We stayed in a very poor neighborhood, and there was trash on the ground all over outside our quarters. I saw... the rest of the story is on the UV server. ================= Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:30:50 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: National Journal - final entry From: Sean McGowan you said it Ken... it is about the people... the cards are just little bitty facilitators :) Go OBC! Sean (1) ================= Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 07:15:26 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ichiro Ticket stub? From: Robert Fitts Please let me know if you figure out how to get one Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 12:37:54 +0000 Subject: The short national report From: Mac Wubben ================= Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 10:54:56 -0700 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series From: Rick Thank you Sent from my iPad > On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:54 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Rick > 265-352 > Good luck > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 1:52 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 57 mid series > Can any one tell me the numbers for the hard mid series I'm not home to look in the book > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:45:50 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: The short National report From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Congratulations Mac and Alesia! ================= Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:11:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: group picture From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, Here is a Group shot from the OBC Swap by the way the bottle of booze that Ed is holding was smooth.. Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: 09 Aug 2016 13:06:46 -0700 To: Subject: Hockey Waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 17:08:45 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Ichiro Ticket stub? From: Bob Reed I have an unused ticket stub from the last game Nolan Ryan pitched. I can't remember how I got it but I might have called the ticket office of the home team. Did you try that yet? Sent from Outlook From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:15 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Ichiro Ticket stub? Please let me know if you figure out how to get one Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 20:13:26 -0500 To: Ramblings Subject: Rittenberg - update From: Steve Rittenberg Plans are in the works for me to return to Alabama at some point. Thank you to all who have previously sent cards to Houston. Going forward, pleasesend cards to my home in Alabama. The address is in the directory. I don't know when I will get home but at least any cards will end up in theright Steve Rittenberg 113 Tallmadge Ct SW Huntsville, AL 35824 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 21:35:35 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wayne's National Report From: Wayne Delia I wanted to take a few days after the National convention to reflect on the last two weeks, and I hope you will bear with me in case this gets as long as one of Morganti's letters. Many of you know me in name only, as I've been the webmaster for our web site and not very active in collecting for the past few years. I was talking to one of the fellas about our web site, saying "The 1990's called - they want their web site back." We've had a cosmetic upgrade in progress for almost two years that hasn't yet been finished - but some of the guys charitably said "our website, old-fashioned as it looks, serves our purpose and fits in well with the kind of cards we collect - beat up, a little rough around the edges, and creased." Anyway, for the first time in about six years, I find I have a little more disposable income available as my son has completed college, and my daughter graduates next May, so here comes more money. Lately I've tried to ease back into collecting, and as a result of visiting Bob Bannon and seeing everybody in Atlantic City, I am in-your-face reminded of what a wonderful group of guys we have here. Despite missing a chance to meet Mark Talbot, I made it out to Lake Tanglewood in Connecticut for a terrific visit with Bob Bannon a few weekends ago. We had a great chat about collecting in general, and he proudly showed off his massive, beautifully-displayed collection. I held exhibit cards in true mint condition that I've never seen before. The great thing about his downstairs collection room is the drop-ceiling, where the insulated tiles are replaced by 33 1/3 RPM vinyl record album covers from the 1970's. Yeah, it's as awesome as it sounds. Despite me not being able to talk him into starting a new set of 1950 Callahan's with some of my duplicates, he gave me a bunch of extremely rare type cards in beautiful shape: a Dormand Hank Bauer, a Spic-n-Span Premium Johnny Logan, a 1986 Conlon World Wide Sports Bill Klem, a Sharkey's Pizza Lefty O'Doul, and a San Francisco Police Giants Darrell Evans - simply amazing. I've got a type card collection with a few cards Bob can use, which will be on their way as soon as I get myself even a little bit organized. This National show was my first since the last one I went to in Atlantic City in 1988. That's 28 years between National shows. I got a bunch of great stuff, and had the giggly, happy, goofy smile on my face that's been missing for quite some time. A Louisville Slugger pro stock C271 bat (for autographs from the NY-Penn All Star Game next week), a Pawtucket Red Sox home jersey #40 (that actually fits!), completed my upgrade of the 1956 Topps set to Excellent condition, completed my 1976 Hostess set (15 cards), completed my R-185 Indian Strip Card set (1 card - #75 Red Bear), got a couple of rare later-years Callahan's, and a PSA-3 1965 Topps Willie Mays, love the photo on that card! Ran into a couple of the guys at Mike McCann's table feeding from his monster boxes of beaters reserved just for the boys in our group, and had a great time talking with Mac Wubbin, Spike Glidden, Mike Rich, Joel Freedman, Sal Domino, Ken Morganti, and a couple others. I posted on my Facebook account that for the first time in a quarter century, I really felt I was where I belonged. I even got my 1-of-1 Topps "World's Ugliest Baseball Card" (with my photo) made up, and they videotaped an interview with me for their website. For those who haven't already heard me tell this story several times already, without a doubt, the hero of the day, the "man of the match" was Joel Freedman. Joel gave me a handshake envelope with a couple of baseball schedules, as he had read my want list and noticed I collected schedules. And he remembered that, when he uncovered a great clearance deal: a huge shoebox of skeds, ten for a buck, or the whole box for $15. He found me in the aisles and dragged me over to the box. I needed pretty much all of those schedules, and was perfectly willing to pay $15 for the whole box - but Joel had already negotiated a price of five bucks for all of them. What a haul! I eventually counted them up and the final total was 1,035 schedules. So, instead of ten for a dollar, Joel arranged for me to get them at two hundred for a dollar. This was a huge boost to my collection, but what I will take away from this is the fact that Joel took the time to find out that I collected schedules, find out a great deal, and find me on the huge convention floor to connect me up with the deal. And the handshake envelopes! How terrific was that? (Very terrific.) Joel's skeds. Spike's 1933 Goudey Tommy Thevenow and 1934 Goudey Joe Mowry. Sal's 1975 Mini Bench RBI Leaders, 1968 Topps McBean and Powell, and a 1909 T206 Wagner (cough-mumble-reprint-cough). Wes's 1963 Post John Roseboro and 1948 Bowman Billy Rigney - sweet!. Nick's 1933 Goudey Joe Morrissey and 1934-36 Diamond Stars Red Lucas. Bob Reed's 1949 Bowman Lou Brissie and 1977 Hostess Robin Yount, with a starter set of 1976 Hostess. Taylor's holy-smokes-look-at-this 1947-66 Exhibit Yogi Berra and 1975 Topps Mini Hernandez Rookie. Mac's oh-my-god-I-am-not-making-this-up 1975 Topps Mini Tom Seaver PSA 8 that-was-no-misprint PSA 8 (squeeeee!). Even more stuff thrown in my direction at the swap sesssion, especially the mint condition Cool Papa Bell bottle cap! You guys... I just can't... there are no words... jeez, you guys. Thanks so much. Jeez. I was bowled over by the swap session, and you all should be too, even if you weren't there. You have no idea how special this group is. I speak from experience, the 22 years I've spent in OBC, "back in the day" with veterans like Sal Domino, Ken Morganti, Mark "Chahta" Shelton, Rick "Tripleplay" Ellison, Larry "Guru" Tipton, Howard Miller, Lynn Miller, Jim "JAMA" Montgomery - what we have today was well beyond the vision we originally had in mind back in the early 1990's on AOL. Beat-up old cards, creased, nicked-up, well-used and well loved. Guys who are most interested in how they can help you find the cards you need, who don't want much of anything in return. Sending out cards somebody needed in an anonymous envelope, no return address, just the name "Stan Hack". A brotherhood, a family, a support group. Sal and me plotting to tip over dealer Steve Verkman's table after he stiffed a few OBC guys on card deals. The "healing power of cardboard," sending hundreds of cards all at once to a member down on his luck. Pizza, beer, and really good baseball discussions. Ed Schott running around with a bottle of caramel-flavored vodka, as we raise a toast to each other, and to absent friends. The swap session - this is how it was always supposed to be, and it turned out so much better than we ever thought. I will admit my heart breaks for my brother Steve Rittenberg, a guy I've known for decades and joined at many Willow Grove and Ft. Washington shows. You just want to do anything you can for him for what he and his wife are goung through lately, and it's sometimes hard to come up with something useful or meaningful. But in the midst of his grief and stress, there was an envelope from Steve for me, delivered by Mike Rich, with ten casino chips (another collection I have) from Biloxi, Mississippi, and I got to talk to Steve on the community phone call. Again - this is how it was always supposed to be, and it turned out so much better than we ever thought it would. "I cried when I wrote this song / Sue me if I play too long." (Steely Dan) ================= Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2016 11:25:25 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Short National Report From: Andy Huntoon Hey guys. I'm out for a smoke break so I figured I'd post a short report. I have had a blast so far. All the guys here have been great. I've met so many OBCers and it's true that even when you first meet these guys it's like meeting upwith an old friend. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 10 Aug 2016 02:50:00 -0700 To: Subject: Change of Mailing Address From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:38:08 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG AUCTION From: Aaron Shirley The OBC Advisory Committee has agreed unanimously to put together an auction to help with Steve & Gina Rittenberg's accumulating expenses relating to her extensive health issues. Steve, though he is on the AC, recused himselffrom the vote. He DID however give his consent for us to do this auction, after a bit of encouraging (grin). This will be much like previous OBC auctions: - Donors email lot information to a coordinator (me): uthminsta AT hotmail DOT - Donors are encouraged to include a common sense minimum starting bid. - Coordinator puts lot info into a spreadsheet and sends out to the group at large via Yahoo server(s). - The first spreadsheet will not be sent until there are at least 20 lots. - Late lot entries are okay, but please donate early and often. - Bidders email their bids to the coordinator: uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com - Bid generously and often. - Coordinator updates spreadsheet and re-sends, approximately daily. - There will be a hard ending date, which is yet to be determined. - After bidding ends, winners send funds to a central source (OBC Treasurer?) - Once funds are received, donors send cards to winners. - One check is sent to Rittenbergs and everyone is happy. Am I forgetting anything? Donors, start your engines! Please email lot info to me at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com Thanks in advance for a great auction! Aaron Shirley ================= To: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:05:55 -0500 Subject: Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? From: "George Vrechek" If anyone has picked up so many cards from the National or other recent sources that you have passed over the 35,000 or 50,000 vintage card threshold, let me know, and I'll add you to the page. The Set Collectors Recognition Level page and long-winded explanations are accessed through the first page of the directory. It is the last of the OBC Member Features and requires a log in. Also if any of you not pictured on the Photos of OBC Members would like to show us what you look like, please send a photo to me or Tom Housley. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:36:12 -0400 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? From: Joel Freedman George, is the 35K requirement, vintage sport cards, or vintage cards? Basically, does non sport cards count towards the 35K total? On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:05 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If anyone has picked up so many cards from the National or other recent > sources that you have passed over the 35,000 or 50,000 vintage card > threshold, let me know, and I=E2=99ll add you to the page. The Set Collectors > Recognition Level page and long-winded explanations are accessed through > the first page of the directory. It is the last of the OBC Member Features > and requires a log in. > Also if any of you not pictured on the Photos of OBC Members would like to > show us what you look like, please send a photo to me or Tom Housley. > George Vrechek ================= To: "'Joel Freedman'" Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:40:35 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? From: "George Vrechek" You have to read the committee report at the end of the set collectors recognition page, for at least some comic relief. The answer though is no. The rules are quite strict. George Vrechek From: Joel Freedman [mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:36 PM To: George Vrechek Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? George, is the 35K requirement, vintage sport cards, or vintage cards? Basically, does non sport cards count towards the 35K total? On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:05 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: If anyone has picked up so many cards from the National or other recent sources that you have passed over the 35,000 or 50,000 vintage card threshold,let me know, and I=E2=99ll add you to the page. The Set Collectors Recognition Level page and long-winded explanations are accessed through the first page of the directory. It is the last of the OBC Member Features and requires a log in. Also if any of you not pictured on the Photos of OBC Members would like to show us what you look like, please send a photo to me or Tom Housley. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:04:55 -0400 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? From: Joel Freedman Can I petition the committee? Your email says vintage cards and not vintage sport cards. There does seem to be some confusion and wiggle room on this point. On Wednesday, August 10, 2016, George Vrechek wrote: > You have to read the committee report at the end of the set collectors > recognition page, for at least some comic relief. The answer though is no. > The rules are quite strict. > George Vrechek > *From:* Joel Freedman [mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:36 PM > *To:* George Vrechek > *Cc:* OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? > George, is the 35K requirement, vintage sport cards, or vintage cards? > Basically, does non sport cards count towards the 35K total? > Regards, > Joel > On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:05 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net > [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > wrote: > If anyone has picked up so many cards from the National or other recent > sources that you have passed over the 35,000 or 50,000 vintage card > threshold, let me know, and I=E2=99ll add you to the page. The Set Collectors > Recognition Level page and long-winded explanations are accessed through > the first page of the directory. It is the last of the OBC Member Features > and requires a log in. > Also if any of you not pictured on the Photos of OBC Members would like to > show us what you look like, please send a photo to me or Tom Housley. > George Vrechek ================= To: OBC Ramblings , OBC National Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 21:11:31 +0000 Subject: OBC Certified Dealer prospect From: Taylor Schock David Prolokoff was in booth 2220 at the National (right behind A-Z Cards/Comics) and was interested in becoming an OBC certified dealer. He is small time (he shared a booth with another guy (or two?)) but had boxes of cards marked at 50 cents, $1, $2, and others. Due to limitations, he wasn't able to bring his 25 cent boxes. I've known David for a couple years and have gotten deals off of him in the past. I believe Richard may have talked to himat the National as well. I tried to steer a couple of guys his way to check out his stuff, but not sure if anyone else made it there. Anyone else have any dealings with him at the National? I believe he is now in Florida, so Guru might run into him. Definitely small time but more important, he caters to the card 'collectors'. ================= To: OBC Ramblings , OBC National Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:40:44 +0000 Subject: Re: OBC Certified Dealer prospect From: richard dingman Yes, I did make a point to stop at his booth on the first day, because he mentioned on net54 that he would be having discount vintage boxes. I ended up buying a few cards from him, can't recall if he did any extra discounting. Very friendly young guy, open to OBC philosophy, lives in the Orlando area,does some shows around the state. Made a point to find me on the last dayto say he enjoyed our meeting and conversation and to say good-bye. Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:11 PM To: OBC Ramblings; OBC National Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Certified Dealer prospect David Prolokoff was in booth 2220 at the National (right behind A-Z Cards/Comics) and was interested in becoming an OBC certified dealer. He is small time (he shared a booth with another guy (or two?)) but had boxes of cards marked at 50 cents, $1, $2, and others. Due to limitations, he wasn't able to bring his 25 cent boxes. I've known David for a couple years and have gotten deals off of him in the past. I believe Richard may have talked to himat the National as well. I tried to steer a couple of guys his way to check out his stuff, but not sure if anyone else made it there. Anyone else have any dealings with him at the National? I believe he is now in Florida, so Guru might run into him. Definitely small time but more important, he caters to the card 'collectors'. ================= To: OBC National , OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 00:39:42 +0000 Subject: National Reflections (warning: this may put you to sleep) From: Taylor Schock Caution: Ken Morganti squared ramble ahead. Well, I was probably close to if not the first one there and may be close to if not the last one to provide an 'update' on the show. The trip up was great and the trip back was a PITA. Came up along the coast (CB bridge/tunnel, Cape May/Lewes ferry) and went back on I-95. I should have invested the additional $70 for the drive back the way I came in. Anyway... Went to the show Wed-Sun but didn't spend all my cash, which is not a bad thing since I'm going to another show on Saturday. Though I had some money to spare, came across a number of good deals (not quite the Big Mac level though). Spent Wednesday mostly getting the 'lay of the land' and not buying much. It's a good plan of action if you have the days. Rule of thumb #1, don't buy good deals on the first day, only buy deals too good to pass up. I didn't have much of a game plan on what I was looking for going in beyondworking on an 'Uncle Miltie' nickname and trying to pickup some T205s. So Wednesday had me finding a couple individual (unmarked) Milton Bradley cards. Thursday I hit my first, and probably best, 'deal'. A dealer had a 5K monster box marked '67-'69 Topps. I asked if I could look through it and he saidhe wanted to sell the entire box (sticker price, $1900) but go ahead and pull out the cards I'm interested in and we'll work a price. Playing the role of Uncle Miltie, I scoured the box for the yellow gold, found a few, thenfound a stack. Cool. I continued to look through the rest of the box to see what else it held and came up with 80 cards total. Most in EXMT or bettercondition, I handed him the stack and asked how much. He thumbed through the stack, looking at fronts and backs, and asked how much I would offer. Thinking I'll start low (as buyers do) and willing to go more I said $50. He said that was fine with him and I walked away with the '68 MBs and '69 Topps you see in the photo. Now 10:30, I spent the rest of the day knowing everything else would be a let down, though I still picked up a few more cards here and there. Capped it off with a great OBC dinner. Friday, more of the same, hitting dealers, checking backs, picking up cards. Meeting OBCers and other collectors, just shooting breeze and looking forcards is the best. Ran into a couple Net54ers (Jantz and someone else I who's name I forget), in chatting about the show and what we were looking for, all 3 of us were short the T205 Daubert. For some reason, not an SP but ahard 'common' to come by. Seemed like every 20 minutes I'd pass Jantz again. No OBC activity tonight for me as Kathy and I went to a local Chinese place for dinner. Saturday was another big deal at the show. Picking up more cards, I found aT205 WaJo in very nice shape, sans the pinhole and glue residue on the back. Thumbed through the rest of the T205s and pulled out a small stack for dealer scum at the prices I paid and a couple I actually needed, including... a Daubert? (see scan) Probably not the condition the other guys were looking for, but there WAS one at the show. (I think the same dealer as Mac's find). So got a stack of T205s, some I need, some I don't for a good deal. Again, picked up more cards before heading back to my place and heading to the swap. About the only thing I was prepared for on this National was the handshakes, as I had no dupes box loaded nor other miscellaneous items to give away. I need to start that NOW for 2017. *sigh* Somehow I missed the call to Steve as I was trying to juggle keeping my better half happy (which isNOT that hard, thankfully) and having some 'me' time. Left early that night on her behalf. Or was it my old age? Anyway... Sunday, packed up the car and Kathy and headed back to the show for a couple hours while she checked out the Tanger Outlet stores. Not sure which would be scarier, money-wise. Picked up some last minute deals on Sunday but many vendors were already packing up. Not bad, as it made for easier pickings. Finally hit the road about 12:30 and pulled in the driveway at 11:30. Overview: Off-condition pre-war to be found at good prices. Of course, tonsof slabbed stuff (all vintage) at insane prices. If you want '50s and up, no problem to find it except for the last few high numbers most need. Stillpicked up a couple, but not much. Wasn't about to pull the trigger on any Rose, Seaver, et al RCs. As for non-sports, forget about it. I picked up a few (and actually finished a set), but the off-grade stuff was steep (IMO).$3-$4 for 'common' tobacco and '30s cards in beat up shape? Not many dealsor dealers there for that. Shiny stuff galore. I noticed that the memorabilia was less as well as niche collectibles (Negro League, foreign, et al). Though I wasn't exactly looking. Overall: A VERY good show! Sets Completed: 1969 Topps FB 4-in-1 (upgrade) 1970 Topps FB glossy Brooke Bond - Transportation Through the Ages (black numbers) Pickups of note: 1969 Team posters (Cards and Pirates) - $15 each T202 center panel of Edward Grant - $2 1888 R&S Artistic "Boston" player (bat missing) - $25 (now need only New York, and had I been earlier, ran into the dealer who picked THAT up for $40... '68 MB Aaron for $5, but Wes picked up a GORGEOUS one for $10... double grrrr 2 dozen other MBs at discounted Topps prices (yet somehow, I'm STILL short of the set) oddly, only ONE MB '67 FB card SGC 60 (EX) 1961 Topps #550 - $3 (hey, for $3 you can slab these '61 high numbers all day long) 2 T201 cards, one Ed Walsh - $40 each 1928 Yuengling Adolfo Luque - $10 T205 Walter Johnson + 9 OBC cards (including a Jake Daubert) - $300 And did I mention the 17 '69 White letters and 63 '68 Milton Bradley (mostly EXMT) for $50 Best part of the National: Meeting up and hanging out with all the great OBCers. Taylor "Uncle Miltie" Schock ================= Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 20:20:05 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com Subject: National thoughts and thanks From: Robert Fitts This was my first national since the last one in AC when I attended as a dealer. I must admit that after the first walk through I was underwhelmed. It seemed like a lot of PSA cards and other museum pieces and VG cards at EX+ prices. After day one, I thought that I would have done better using the travel money on ebay. But day two was entirely different. It began by bumping into a bunch of OBCers at the first table. I finally got to meet Sal, Ken, Andy, and Spike and had a chance to see Bob Reed again. To my great surprise, they all had =93handshakes=94 for me. They caught me completely by surprise with their generosity. Things got even better as I added Exhibit cards to my wantlist and spent the day picking up nearly 100 at a few bucks a pop. Day 2 ended with Spike finding one of my 2 remaining 1935 Goudeys for me. We met at a table of a former OBCer (I forget his name) who happened to have 2 of my missing T205s (Joss and Wilhlem). Now out of cash, I beat a hasty retreat back to NYC. On to my thanks. Bob Reed provides Grant and Wilhelm from the 1960 Leaf set. Spike sends 3 1952 Topps and a 62 Post Frank Robinson Steve Rittenberg sent an envelope to the National with two 1952 Topps In today=92s mail came 3 more 1952 Topps from Jin Craig and finally, I must single out Sal who=92s handshake was a very generous 17cards to my Starting Nine collection and a T206 Wagner. With the Wagner out of the way, I guess I ought to add T206 to my want list rob fitts ================= Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:26:37 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL Joel, My petition for variations (which are a set unto themselves) was unilaterally rejected! I think if we did non sport, we would be trying to reach "Guru Level"... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/10/2016 5:05:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Can I petition the committee? Your email says vintage cards and not vintage sport cards. There does seem to be some confusion and wiggle room on this point. On Wednesday, August 10, 2016, George Vrechek <_vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) > wrote: You have to read the committee report at the end of the set collectors recognition page, for at least some comic relief. The answer though is no.The rules are quite strict. George Vrechek From: Joel Freedman [mailto:jefreedman1@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 2:36 PM To: George Vrechek Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Recognition Level Update? Photo update? George, is the 35K requirement, vintage sport cards, or vintage cards? Basically, does non sport cards count towards the 35K total? On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 3:05 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: If anyone has picked up so many cards from the National or other recent sources that you have passed over the 35,000 or 50,000 vintage card threshold, let me know, and I=E2=99ll add you to the page. The Set Collectors Recognition Level page and long-winded explanations are accessed through the first page of the directory. It is the last of the OBC Member Features and requires a log in. Also if any of you not pictured on the Photos of OBC Members would like to show us what you look like, please send a photo to me or Tom Housley. George Vrechek ================= Date: 11 Aug 2016 05:50:29 -0700 To: Subject: OBC Website issue? From: miglasser@aol.com ================= To: , Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:53:32 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? From: "Bob Donaldson" I get the following error message when I click on directory Error - Could not connect to host 205.178.146.25: Access denied for user 'obcadministrator'@'10.30.72.4' (using password: xxx) **I=E2=99ve blocked out the password However I can get to my directory using its url http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/bdonaldson.htm From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:50 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? Is anyone else having issues accessing the directory page from the OBC site? Is it just me? Mike Glasser ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:21:19 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Apologies From: Bob Corvello I'm sorry if any of you receive strange email from me with links included. My wife and I both had our email addresses hacked. I think it's pretty harmless, but it's always good to be careful with that kind on nonsense. Bob Corvello ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:31:53 -0400 To: "miglasser@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? From: ShoelessWes I have same issue. Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:50 AM, miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Is anyone else having issues accessing the directory page from the OBC site? Is it just me? > thx > Mike Glasser ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:53:31 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? From: Ken M I had the same issue late last night. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2016 8:50 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? Is anyone else having issues accessing the directory page from the OBC site?  Is it just me?thxMike Glasser ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:41:31 -0400 To: Wayne Delia , OBC Ramblings Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? From: Joel Freedman Hi Wayne, can you look into this webpage issue? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? To: "miglasser@aol.com" Cc: "" I have same issue. Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:50 AM, miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Is anyone else having issues accessing the directory page from the OBC site? Is it just me? Mike Glasser ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:41:27 -0500 Subject: RE: RITTENBERG AUCTION From: Aaron Shirley Testing for how formatting looks. Please do not bid yet, and keep sending in your lot info! 1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top$1no bidsDelott1953 Bowman Color#44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G, no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R and 70/30 T-B$30no bidsGuru1953 Bowmans 19 Dark creased in middle and 37 Wilson creased and scuffed$1no bidsDelott1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R and 70/30 T-B$20no bidsGuru1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$2no bidsPelletier1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases$1no bidsDelott1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4no bidsRainsley1959 Topps, 100 different, #111-488 incl Banks, Kaline, Aparicio. All grey back. "Honest wear" no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G to Ex, averaging VG-/VG$10no bidsRice1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40T-B$2no bidsGuru1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle$30no bidsMead1964 Topps #136Koufax World Series$3no bidsRainsley1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4no bidsRainsley1964 Topps, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. "Honest wear" no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G to Ex,averaging VG/Ex$10no bidsRice1965 Topps Embossed 45 Cepeda scuffed 48 Raditz less scuffed$1no bidsDelott1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1no bidsShirley1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1no bidsDelott1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$7no bidsGuru1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card no bidsValacak1970 Topps Super 21 Santo and 32 Pinella both have pin holes$1no bidsDelott1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot no bidsValacak1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot no bidsValacak1977 Topps complete set from vending case no bidsCipra2 issues of Baseball Digest - May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5no bidsMeadFrank Slocum's Classic Baseball Cards 1886-1956 - large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$10no bidsMead ================= Date: 11 Aug 2016 09:40:10 -0700 To: Subject: 3 Card Waiver From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:02:39 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1971 Fleer Laughlin World Series From: Joel Freedman to all that have completed or collected this set. Can you provide some insight? My question is, how can a world series set that is issued in 1971 (or claimed to be issued in 1971) have the world series history from cards 1972 - 197 as cards numbered 70 - 75? what is the correct year that this set was issued? ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:31:28 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: 1971 Fleer Laughlin World Series From: LAWRENCE TIPTON The 1970 Fleer World Series cards have light blue backs and the last card in the set is #66 which features the 1969 WS Mets vs Orioles The 1971-1980 Fleer World Series cards have black backs, and was originallyissued in 1971 and then updated intermittently. Many (most?) consider the set complete at #68 which features the 1970 WS Orioles vs Reds. Cards #69 #70 #71 #72 #73 #74 #75 do exist but they are hard to find and expensive, and appear to be issued after the initial cards were released in 1971. Keep this in mind as you scour the bargain boxes, you might find one of the rare cards numbered #69-#75 in the bargain box like Ken M did at this years National. ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:33:48 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: 1971 Fleer Laughlin World Series From: Joel Freedman that is why they call you the Guru.... thank you, sir. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:31 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > The 1970 Fleer World Series cards have light blue backs and the last card > in the set is #66 which features the 1969 WS Mets vs Orioles > The 1971-1980 Fleer World Series cards have black backs, and was > originally issued in 1971 and then updated intermittently. Many (most?) > consider the set complete at #68 which features the 1970 WS Orioles vs > Reds. Cards #69 #70 #71 #72 #73 #74 #75 do exist but they are hard to find > and expensive, and appear to be issued after the initial cards were > released in 1971. Keep this in mind as you scour the bargain boxes, you > might find one of the rare cards numbered #69-#75 in the bargain box like > Ken M did at this years National. > Guru ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:16:27 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: 1971 Fleer Laughlin World Series From: JAY TYSVER I believe the extended cards were issued from ice cream trucks only. Jay Tysver To: larrytipton@windstream.net CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:33:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: 1971 Fleer Laughlin World Series that is why they call you the Guru.... thank you, sir. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:31 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net[OBC-Ramblings] wrote: The 1970 Fleer World Series cards have light blue backs and the last card in the set is #66 which features the 1969 WS Mets vs Orioles The 1971-1980 Fleer World Series cards have black backs, and was originallyissued in 1971 and then updated intermittently. Many (most?) consider the set complete at #68 which features the 1970 WS Orioles vs Reds. Cards #69 #70 #71 #72 #73 #74 #75 do exist but they are hard to find and expensive, and appear to be issued after the initial cards were released in 1971. Keep this in mind as you scour the bargain boxes, you might find one of the rare cards numbered #69-#75 in the bargain box like Ken M did at this years National. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 18:49:07 +0000 Subject: Uh oh From: Mac Wubben OBC and Net54 sites down at the same time...it's cardmageddon! ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 23:06:42 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Mickey Lolich From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- I run an occasional auction over on N54, but I never take cash... you have to bid in cards. Anyway, I add cards each day, and yesterday I added Mickey Lolich. I also try to add a snippet or two, so when I looked at Lolich's stats, I came up with this ridiculous number...376 IP in 1971.It's so amazing that I thought I would share here, what I wrotethere: And in the category of "That's the most ridiculous thing ever," I present this about Mickey Lolich. In 1971, the year commemorated on this leader card, Lolich pitched 376 innings. Do you realize how unachievable that is today? Let's plug that number into the 5-man rotation of today. In 162 games, a starter would get 32.5 starts if he pitched every fifth start. So if you did that today, pitched 32.5 games, or every fifth day... do you have any idea how many innings you would have to average, per start, to get to 376 IP? The answer is 11.5 IP/start. Yep, over eleven innings per start, for the whole year! I'm pretty sure nobody is coming close to that number anytime soon. And it's not even the post WWI record... Wilbur Wood beat him by 2/3 of an inning the next year. That's just crazy... I'm tipping an Odell Brewing Drumroll American Pale Ale to Mickey Lolich. I'd eat a donut if I had one. Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:15:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1976 hostess brown backs From: Anthony Hello all, Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:57:34 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? From: Wayne Delia Mike Glasser helped me out with this issue today on the website. Our Internet service provider, Network Solutions, upgraded the database manager to MySQL version 5 (from version 4), and there was a database outage for most of the day. When the upgrade was over and the dust settled, the IP address (the group of four 2-or-3 digit numbers identifying the physical address of the database server) had changed. I updated the addresses in our configuration files and most, if not all, of the pages are back online. Please let me know if there are any pages that look strange. And Joel, thanks again for finding that monster schedule deal for me at Atlantic CIty. I'm having a blast with them. On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Joel Freedman > Hi Wayne, can you look into this webpage issue? > Regards > Joel > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:31 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Website issue? > To: "miglasser@aol.com" > Cc: "" > I have same issue. > Wes Shepard > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2016, at 8:50 AM, miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Is anyone else having issues accessing the directory page from the OBC > site? Is it just me? > thx > Mike Glasser ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 To: Anthony Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:17:32 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs From: JAY TYSVER They're not particularly rare. Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 Jay Tysver To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hello all, Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:22:25 -0700 To: obc-ramblings Subject: The National - A rookie's perspective From: Andy Huntoon Well, I had an even better time at the National than I ever thought I would. I didn't know what was coming and so was obviously not prepared like most. But we'll get to that later. I went to work Wednesday planning to leave for AC after I got home. My plan was to be on the road at 6:30. Of course, my wife and kids had different plans. I *had *to eat dinner before I could leave and that wasn't ready until 6:10. Then I had to help with a few more things. Anyway, on the road by 7:30 and cruised down with no traffic. Got to the hotel and waiting for Bob Reed to bring Nick Pelletier back after the group finished dinner. While Nick and I were settling into the room, Nick hands me a card and says, "Is that ok with you?" It was a 1956 Topps Ted Williams!!! Um, yes that's cool with me bro. The next morning Bob picked us up around 8:30 and we headed down to the convention center. When I first walked into the show, it was humbling to be there. It was so big that you couldn't see the end of it. I spent day 1 following OBCers around meeting dealers and many new OBC brothers that I had never met before. Each one of them embraced me like an old friend like I had heard many times on the email servers over the years. The OBC dealers are great. I was able to leave my heavy bag at their tables while I browsed around. Talking cards with them was awesome. And I met so many of them it made the show even more amazing. I didn't buy much the first day because I wanted to just look around and see what was there that interested me. My main goal for the show was to knock off all the remaining 1954 Topps commons on my list. I only wanted to pay $1 - $2 each for them and when I found them in that price range, I already had them all. I could've picked up a lot more at $5 each, but I'm OBC and I don't roll like that. I managed to pick up a few, but the majority of the ones I ended up with came from OBCers. My best pickup by far was from Tim Newcomb. While looking through Tim's cases I asked to look at a stack of e93's. He had a Christy Mathewson marked at $295. At the end of the day Friday I hurried over to his booth and told him I was interested in it and wanted to think about it overnight. I asked what the best price he could give me would be and I was hoping to hear $250. He looked it over and handed to me and said, "how about $200?" Holy crap!! I kept me cool and said thanks and I would likely be back early in the morning for it. Well, I was there early and picked it up. It's one of my favorite Mathewson cards and I am ecstatic to finally own it. What a great guy Tim is. Dinners after each day's show activities were a blast. We all had a good time fooling around and joking and laughing. I looked forward to dinner each night towards the end of the show. The swap. My first. When I walked into the room, it looked like another small card show with tables all over covered with monster boxes of cards. Only these weren't for sale, they were for the taking and trading. Mostly for the taking though. The best part though was the comradery. I had the best time talking to everyone. Now for anyone who has never been to a National and plans to go to one at some point. Here are my rookie mistakes. I didn't print out my want list to carry around in paper form so I could check off my pickups throughout the show. I planned handshakes very poorly and only had a handful of them for some of the guys. I feel pretty bad about that, but I'll be sending out some cardboard soon to make up for that. I didn't have a map of the floor to make notes of good tables and bad ones and to keep track of where I'd been and where I still needed to go. I know I missed a bunch of booths due to this. I didn't take any pictures. Not one. I really regret this one right now. I would've loved to have a bunch of pics of cool items I saw, all the guys I met whether OBC or dealer. Or a good pic of the shear size of the show. Or the cans on the blackjack dealer at Nick's table in Ceasers. So, in conclusion, it was one of the best times I've had in a long time and definitely the best card show I have ever attended. I'm already trying to convince my wife to take the whole family to Chicago next year so I can go to the show and they can visit Chicago. Thanks for reading this far. You guys all rock!!! Andy Huntoon ================= To: "'Andy Huntoon'" , Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 20:09:01 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The National - A rookie's perspective From: "Grant Rainsley" Good Ramble. GREAT report=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6and if they ever bring the National back to the Left Coast=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.well, never mind, I don=E2=99t think it=E2=99s gonna happen=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.Glenn Codere=E2=A6I share your pain=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:22 PM To: obc-ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The National - A rookie's perspective Well, I had an even better time at the National than I ever thought I would. I didn't know what was coming and so was obviously not prepared like most. But we'll get to that later. I went to work Wednesday planning to leave for AC after I got home. My plan was to be on the road at 6:30. Of course, my wife and kids had differentplans. I had to eat dinner before I could leave and that wasn't ready until 6:10. Then I had to help with a few more things. Anyway, on the road by 7:30 and cruised down with no traffic. Got to the hotel and waiting for Bob Reed to bring Nick Pelletier back after the group finished dinner. While Nick and I were settling into the room, Nick hands me a card and says, "Is that ok with you?" It was a 1956 Topps Ted Williams!!! Um, yes that's cool with me bro. The next morning Bob picked us up around 8:30 and we headed down to the convention center. When I first walked into the show, it was humbling to be there. It was so big that you couldn't see the end of it. I spent day 1 following OBCers around meeting dealers and many new OBC brothers that I had never met before. Each one of them embraced me like an old friend like I had heard many times on the email servers over the years. The OBC dealers are great. I was able to leave my heavy bag at their tables while I browsedaround. Talking cards with them was awesome. And I met so many of them it made the show even more amazing. I didn't buy much the first day becauseI wanted to just look around and see what was there that interested me. My main goal for the show was to knock off all the remaining 1954 Topps commons on my list. I only wanted to pay $1 - $2 each for them and when I found them in that price range, I already had them all. I could've picked up a lot more at $5 each, but I'm OBC and I don't roll like that. I managed to pick up a few, but the majority of the ones I ended up with came from OBCers. My best pickup by far was from Tim Newcomb. While looking through Tim's cases I asked to look at a stack of e93's. He had a Christy Mathewson markedat $295. At the end of the day Friday I hurried over to his booth and told him I was interested in it and wanted to think about it overnight. I asked what the best price he could give me would be and I was hoping to hear $250. He looked it over and handed to me and said, "how about $200?" Holy crap!! I kept me cool and said thanks and I would likely be back early in the morning for it. Well, I was there early and picked it up. It's one of my favorite Mathewson cards and I am ecstatic to finally own it. What a great guy Tim is. Dinners after each day's show activities were a blast. We all had a good time fooling around and joking and laughing. I looked forward to dinner each night towards the end of the show. The swap. My first. When I walked into the room, it looked like another small card show with tables all over covered with monster boxes of cards. Only these weren't for sale, they were for the taking and trading. Mostly for the taking though. The best part though was the comradery. I had the best time talking to everyone. Now for anyone who has never been to a National and plans to go to one at some point. Here are my rookie mistakes. I didn't print out my want list to carry around in paper form so I could check off my pickups throughout theshow. I planned handshakes very poorly and only had a handful of them for some of the guys. I feel pretty bad about that, but I'll be sending out some cardboard soon to make up for that. I didn't have a map of the floor tomake notes of good tables and bad ones and to keep track of where I'd beenand where I still needed to go. I know I missed a bunch of booths due to this. I didn't take any pictures. Not one. I really regret this one right now. I would've loved to have a bunch of pics of cool items I saw, all the guys I met whether OBC or dealer. Or a good pic of the shear size of the show. Or the cans on the blackjack dealer at Nick's table in Ceasers. So, in conclusion, it was one of the best times I've had in a long time anddefinitely the best card show I have ever attended. I'm already trying toconvince my wife to take the whole family to Chicago next year so I can goto the show and they can visit Chicago. Thanks for reading this far. You guys all rock!!! Andy Huntoon ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 06:34:01 -0400 To: wayne.m.delia@gmail.com, Subject: re: OBC website issues From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I was able to view my want list but unable to update it this Friday AM. Greeted with this message: Error - Could not connect : Access denied for user =E2obcadministrator'@'10.30.72.4' (using password: YES) ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 13:50:41 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Hockey Help From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Getting close to completing a few mid 70's Hockey sets, please let me know if you can help me out. 1974/75 Topps: 2, 4, 28, 100, 130, 135, 168, 256 1977/78 Topps: 43, 74, 75, 80, 81, 86, 105, 152, 160, 170, 171, 192, 210, 227, 249, 250, 260 1978/79 Topps:14, 43, 67, 70, 176, 192-195, 199, 200, 202, 203, 205, 207, 208, 262Thanks for checkingNick Covello ================= Date: 12 Aug 2016 08:28:38 -0700 To: Subject: Help !!! From: rangersteve7@optonline.net ================= To: , Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:30:52 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Help !!! From: "Bob Donaldson" Don=E2=99t worry, its not just you. I think it=E2=99s an upgrade issues and that Wayne Delia is working on it From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 11:29 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Help !!! I can log on to the OBC website, buy I cannot update my wantlists. Can someone assist me please, thank you. Steve Sankner ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:32:11 -0400 To: Wayne Delia , OBC Ramblings , Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Help !!! From: Joel Freedman Wayne, members can now access the directory page, but can not update their wantlists. are their more IP addresses to update? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < Date: Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:30 AM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Help !!! To: rangersteve7@optonline.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Don=E2=99t worry, its not just you. I think it=E2=99s an upgrade issues and that Wayne Delia is working on it *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] *Sent:* Friday, August 12, 2016 11:29 AM *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Help !!! I can log on to the OBC website, buy I cannot update my wantlists. Can someone assist me please, thank you. Steve Sankner ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 11:40:47 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: OBC website issues From: Wayne Delia OK, that's something I'll want to look into. I'll get that done right after lunch. Hope you had a lot of updating to do, Guru (i.e. deleting lines of cards you've recently acquired!) On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 6:34 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON wrote: > I was able to view my want list but unable to update it this Friday AM. > Greeted with this message: > Guru > Error - Could not connect : Access denied for user =E2obcadministrator'@'10.30.72.4' > (using password: YES) ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:43:17 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC Web Site back up and running From: Wayne Delia I wanted to see if I can explain what happened with the web site. Nothing major, just a database upgrade from MySQL version 4 to version 5. It's not a big deal if they were just upgrading a single database instance like ours, but our web service provider, Network Solutions, were putting in the upgrade to every database for every account they support. At the same time, they were upgrading phpMyAdmin to a more recent level. Usually, database manager upgrades are performed "in place", but the massive number of upgrades made it necessary to change the IP address of each database. as if they physically migrated every database to a new server address. So, I had to get into each of our configuration files and update the IP address. I thought I had all of them done yesterday, but a few slipped through the cracks. They're fixed now. Much thanks to Joel Freedman and Mike Glasser for their help in pointing out the problems. If anyone sees anything that looks unusual or unexpected, please contact me directly at ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:44:10 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: OBC Website Issues From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I was just able to update my want list. Thanks Wayne or who ever else fixedit! You know I have always said that although the website is old, it has served us well. Oh and I had 13 hits to mark off LOL! ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:51:44 -0400 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: Ant Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. So far the following are confirmed brown backs- Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=92s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone know. happy hunting > On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > They're not particularly rare. > Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 > Jay Tysver > To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com > CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs > Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Hello all, > Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? > Anthony > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" , Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 19:00:26 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: JAY TYSVER I pulled all of mine from two sets and dupes. I aligned them up into groupsof three as the panels are three cards. If I have at least one out of three cards in the panel, I should assume the other two are also available in brown. The numbers from the Net54 link were not completely accurate. I can attest to at least the following numbers being available in brown... 145-147 (according to Net54-although I have none from this panel) Jay Tysver To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:08:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need I have some of the same ones--and you can add 122 to the mix. If I was a betting man, I bet 91-150 can be found with both brown and black backs.. peter mead On 08/12/16, Ant anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: jay, Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards.So far the following are confirmed brown backs-#91-120,127,128,129,139-150Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=92s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone know.happy huntingAnthonyOn Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:They're not particularly rare. Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc.http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294Jay TysverTo:anthony.senthi@gmail.comCC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.comDate: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500Subject: Re:[OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right?AaronSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hello all,Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set?AnthonySent from my iPad ================= To: Anthony , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 19:06:14 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: Aaron Shirley AnthonyGood, man. Become the expert.1976 HOSTESS BROWN HAVE: 37 38 39 95 99101 102 103 105 109 110 111 114 121 122 123 124 125 126 133 134 135 136 138 139 141 145 150.1978 HOSTESS BROWN HAVE: 91 92 93 94 95 96 100 101 102 103 104 105 107 108. 1979 HOSTESS BROWN HAVE: 3 4 10 25 38bust. CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: JTysver1@msn.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:51:44 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. So far the following are confirmed brown backs-#91-120,127,128,129,139-150 Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=92s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone know.happy On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:They're not particularly rare. Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 Jay Tysver To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hello all, Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:41:17 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG AUCTION update From: Aaron Shirley Welcome to the weekend. With over 60 items submitted already, we are nearlyready to begin bidding. What you see below is just to whet your appetite and get you all thinking about what you're gonna bid on! Bidding opens MONDAY AUGUST 15TH at 8:00am Eastern. Lots may be added through WEDNESDAY AUGUST 17TH. The auction will end SATURDAY AUGUST 27TH at 10:00pm Eastern. I have had significant input on this, and for the helpful suggestions, I say thank you. A few additional bits: - Regular updates will be sent out through the main servers, but I will also have a "live" edition viewable at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing - Lots are not numbered. This is on purpose, so additional lots can be placed in "chronological" order without disrupting the system. - One exception: If you place a bid for "LOT 99" this is simply a donation to the cause. Any and everyone will win this lot. Bid accordingly. - The donor is listed in the final column. If you'd like a picture of an item, please contact them directly, as I do not have pictures of the items. Ask early, as not everyone checks their email a hundred times a day like I do. - There was one submitted item from the UV era. My thanks to the donor. I will offer that item on the UV server, but I would like to steer away from dividing things up more, so please keep any further items 1980 and older (orappropriate books pertaining to the vintage era, etc) - It is my hope you all can believe I will handle this with honesty and integrity. So that there are no questions about a conflict of interest, I will make it known now that I myself *DO* intend to bid on items, but will not bid within the last 24 hours. And I will give at least two update posts after the last time I bid so everyone should have a chance to get in a bid after me. I hope that is sufficient. Thank you very much to all who are participating, through donations, bids, and well wishes to the Rittenberg family. Aaron Shirley 1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$10no bidsCook1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$30no bidsFitts1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$5no bidsElwell1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$4no bidsAshton1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top$1no bidsDelott1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$5no bidsCook1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G, no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R and 70/30 T-B$30no bidsGuru1953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$1no bidsDelott1954 Topps #201 Al Kaline RC - GD condition if not for the 2 small punch holes and pinhole near the top of the card. Back is nicer than the front.$20no bidsSchock1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R and 70/30 T-B$20no bidsGuru1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$2no bidsPelletier1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10no bidsGlasser1959 Topps #547 Baxes -major creases$1no bidsDelott1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4no bidsRainsley1959 Topps 100 different, #111-488 incl Banks, Kaline, Aparicio. All grey back. "Honest wear" no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex,averaging VG-/VG$10no bidsRice1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senatorscomic logo (Poor)$1no bidsElwell1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10no bidsCook1961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex$5no bidsCook1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$10no bidsCook1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$2no bidsGuru1963 Topps #200Mickey Mantle$30no bidsMead1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series$3no bidsRainsley1964 Topps 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. "Honest wear" no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$10no bidsRice1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4no bidsRainsley1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5no bidsCook1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1no bidsDelott1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1nobidsShirley1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12no bidsAshton1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$3no bidsAshton1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$1no bidsElwell1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better$5no bidsCook1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1no bidsDelott1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B49B 50B$7no bidsGuru1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$5no bidsGray1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$10no bidsCook1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$5no bidsAshton1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$1no bidsElwell1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$1no bidsDelott1970-71 Topps Basketball Near Set - missing 2, 6, 10, 33, 42, 49, 65, 80, 95, 104, 112, 113, 123, 162, 170, 176- commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$100no bidsCook1970s Hostess3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$5no bidsCook1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe$7no bidsPelletier1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$2no bidsValacak1973O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$5no bidsGray1973 Topps #613 BobBoone Rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$5no bidsGray1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$5no bidsGray1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$20no bidsTysver1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612$1no bidsElwell1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5no bidsCook1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCook1977 Topps complete set from vending case$75no bidsCipra1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCookBaseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5no bidsMeadClassic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$10no bidsMeadGlory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB,great shape.$4no bidsElwellOne of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreathTouching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, singed by Garver exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreath Lot 99 - one free high five for the cause ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 21:55:11 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: Anthony Second sighting on the 30's . Also did not know about the other years. Needto check mine as well Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone > On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Aaron Shirley wrote: > Anthony > Good, man. Become the expert. > 1976 HOSTESS BROWN HAVE: 37 38 39 95 99 101 102 103 105 109 110 111 114 121 122 123 124 125 126 133 134 135 136 138 139 141 145 150. > 1978 HOSTESS BROWN HAVE: 91 92 93 94 95 96 100 101 102 103 104 105 107 108. > 1979 HOSTESS BROWN HAVE: 3 4 10 25 38bust. > Aaron > CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > To: JTysver1@msn.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 17:51:44 -0400 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need > jay, > Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. > So far the following are confirmed brown backs- > #91-120,127,128,129,139-150 > Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=E2=99s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone > happy hunting > Anthony > On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > They're not particularly rare. > Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 > Jay Tysver > To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com > CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs > Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hello all, > Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? > Anthony > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 23:14:43 -0400 To: JAY TYSVER Subject: Re: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need update From: Anthony Hell all, Several have weighed in on there dupes For the 76 set the following are confirmed brown 37-54,79-85 which means 85,86,87 exist in a panel set,91-129,133 which means 133,134,135 exist in a panel set,139-150 Given my math works..... Which means the following are still in need of defining if there are brown backs out there Lmk us all know Ps. I just posted a need list on my trade page...one more variation in my quest Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Ant wrote: > jay, > Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. > So far the following are confirmed brown backs- > #91-120,127,128,129,139-150 > Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=E2=99s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone > happy hunting > Anthony >> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> They're not particularly rare. >> Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. >> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 >> Jay Tysver >> To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com >> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs >> Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hello all, >> Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? >> Anthony >> Sent from my iPad ================= To: "'Ant'" , "'JAY TYSVER'" Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 19:30:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: "Matt Yudt" I had a small stack of brown back variations that I pulled from a large lot I bought last year. Unfortunately (or I guess fortunately for someone) they were snagged at the swap last week. From what I researched back then I found a statement that #'s 100-150 were issued in brown backs in the 'Ohio valley region'. Anyway, just going through the binder I find that #39 is brown back! All the other brownies I have are between 100-150 Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ant anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 5:52 PM To: JAY TYSVER Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. So far the following are confirmed brown backs- Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #'s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone happy hunting On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: They're not particularly rare. Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=713294 Jay Tysver To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Hello all, Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 08:11:00 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need update From: Anthony Sent from hello all, Jay has #136 run so below is revised > On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Anthony wrote: > Hell all, > Several have weighed in on there dupes > For the 76 set the following are confirmed brown > 37-54,79-85 which means 85,86,87 exist in a panel set,91-129,133 which means 133,134,135 exist in a panel set,136-150 > Given my math works..... > Which means the following are still in need of defining if there are brown backs out there > #1-36,55-78,88,89,90 > Lmk us all know > Ps. I just posted a need list on my trade page...one more variation in myquest > Thanks > Ant > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 12, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Ant wrote: >> jay, >> Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. >> So far the following are confirmed brown backs- >> #91-120,127,128,129,139-150 >> Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=E2=99s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone >> happy hunting >> Anthony >>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> They're not particularly rare. >>> Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. >>> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 >>> Jay Tysver >>> To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com >>> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >>> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs >>> Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed asmany brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? >>> Aaron >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? >>> Anthony >>> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:28:20 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: More National ramblings From: Andy Huntoon Hey guys, I just can't stop thinking about the National so I hope you don't mind me rambling about it still. Another rookie mistake I made was that I didn't keep track of what I got atthe swap and who I got it from. So now I have my stack of cards that I gotat the swap and don't know who to thank. Smart right? I do know Ed Schott handed me a long box full of SF Giants. And then I split another box of Giants cards with Randy. So I ended up with about 1,000+ of those from Ed. Sweet! I also met Wayne Delia and pilfered his dupes netting several 1951, 1952 & 1954 Bowmans along with other goodies. I pulled a few cards from Nick's box. I was able to help Ken with some 1977 Topps glossy hockey * or ** variations he needed. And in return he gave me some 1977 OPC glossy hockey which started me on that set and some 1978 Topps glossy hockey to start me on that set. Thanks Ken. Mike Rich snagged something frommy bin of miscellaneous items and put four RC cola cans in the bin in return. And I can't remember who I got the other cards from that are in this pile. My apologies to those I forgot. I met some interesting people over the weekend that weren't OBC as well. While waiting to be seated for dinner Friday night, I was outside for a smokewith Bob Reed (Bob was not smoking) and a nice homeless guy came over for a smoke. He continued talking to me for my entire cigarette but Bob decidedto pretend he didn't know me and he quietly ditched me and went inside so I could have all the fun with this guy. Thanks Bob. Then, again while having a smoke outside the show one afternoon I was talking to another a guy who was having a cigar. Turns out he has the #1 PSA Mickey Mantle master set in their registry. He was very proud of the fact thathe finally knocked Levi of 707 out of first place for that set. Oh, and after talking for a while, he introduced himself as Congressman Chris Collinsfrom NY. I forwarded his contact info to Gary Mandell and he said he wouldsee what he could do to help with Gary's campaign. What a great range of demographic to meet at a baseball card show! I'm sure I'll think of more that I want to share with you all so thanks forputting up with my continued rambles. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 19:08:54 +0000 Subject: Vintage non-sport From: richard dingman I picked up a lot of vintage non-sport random cards donated by Sam Majors at the National. If you are interested in any before 1960, please send me your wantlists andI will see if I can target some hits. Also, if you collect match book covers for college sports or US navy, lmk. It will take me a couple weeks most likely to get through these as this is my busy time of the year and I am rarely even home weekends. Richard D __,_._I,Ipicked up a lot of ___ ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:27:04 -0500 Subject: 25,000 From: Yaz On a lazy day here, after reading a ramble from George, I decided to calculate the exact number of vintage cards I had accumulated and to see if I was anywhere near the lower tier. I came up quite a bit short with 19,669 and that got me to thinking if attaining 25,000 was even possible with my collecting goals. About 9 of those cards I have are not baseball cards and there lies the problem I think. Cleaning up the sets on my wantlist would get me close to 21,000. From there I would need to go back below the 50's and go harder on prewar cards which would be great if I could afford that and could live that long. Or I could go sideways into football, basketball, hockey and whatever. If 25,000 was a goal, this would rather easy, however, my goals are to finish the sets I'm working on now and to that end, I do not think I will ever reach the lower tier. It was kind of fun checking anyway. Whenever you do something like that you find stuff you had forgot about and that in itself is a cool thing about collecting. Greg (yaz) ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 23:08:49 +0000 Subject: And speaking of small OBC gatherings... From: Taylor Schock OK, where's the show next week? This is my third weekend in a row at some card show, but I doubt I'll make it 4. Surprised by Doug DeJong at the Charlotte show today. Neither were certain the other would be there so the handshakes were of the 'nekid' kind, but the company was great. I KNOW Doug got some good hits and he pointed me to some that I picked up myself, some of which I will (problably) add to a growing 'dealer scum' list, sometime after the auction so as not to distract. I actually finished 1 set with a '69 Man on the Moon (A/B 55 card version), only 47 years to complete this one. LOL Best pick up of the day for me was DVDs for $1 apiece. Good seeing you again Doug. ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 01:17:24 +0000 (UTC) To: Subject: Another Complete Game for Mickey Lolich From: Ron Perry Hi OBC, I read with interest Geno's recent comments regarding Mickey Lolich and his 29 complete games in 1971. Last night Marlene and I made the two hour drive to Comstock Park (near Grand Rapids) to see the West Michigan Whitecaps play the Lansing Lug Nuts. The Whitecaps are the Tigers affiliate in the Midwest League and the Lug Nuts are the Blue Jays affiliate. It was a Tigers Friday, which means a former Tiger signs autographs and each of the first thousand fans through the gate gets the event premium, in this case a bobble head of the former Tiger. The former Tiger was Mickey Lolich and his night was extraordinary. Gates opened at 5:15 pm and we were among the first 50 in line. By the time Mickey arrived and started signing at 6:00 pm the line grew to possibly 500 fans and shortly thereafter security personnel assured that no one else would get in line or go through a second time. The signing was scheduled to be from 6:00 pm to 7:45pm. Marlene and I got the autographs and went to our seats to watch the game. Intermittent light rain persisted throughout the game, enough for umbrellas but not a game delay. Mickey was under the grandstand so he didn't get wet. He meticulously continued signing and the line slowly got shorter. By 9:00 pm we decided not to pull out the umbrellas again and headed for the car. There was still about 100 fans in line and Mickey was still signing. I know the game went 10 innings and was suspended in a 3-3 tie as we listened on the car radio during the drive home. What i do suspect is that everyone in line got a Mickey Lolich autograph and that he finished around 10:00 pm. So the hero of the 1968 World Series, the guy who threw 376 innings and had 29 complete games in 1971 signs autographs for four hours for around 500 happy fans on a rainy Friday night in Comstock Park, Michigan. All I can say is extraordinary. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 01:25:57 +0000 Subject: A new set--55 Topps Football all-american From: Mac Wubben So I picked up a starter set of about 70 Topps football all-americans...at 3 for $1 even I will chase some football. Here is the new list...and one old list (55B that I'd like to finish off). As always, trades are welcome. 1955 Bowman 65 Young 104 Nomellini 106 Marchibroda 146 Michaels 147 Toth 152 Landry 1955 Topps All American (b. 8/13/16) 16 17 18 20 21 26 27 37 38 45-47 52 56 59 66 68 69 71 76 78 80 83 90 93 97 Mac Wubben PO Box 23938 Washington DC 20026 ================= Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 20:17:38 -0600 To: Ron Perry , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Another Complete Game for Mickey Lolich From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 06:09:36 +0000 To: obc ramblings , national Subject: 2016 National Ramble From: Matthew Glidden My National report=E2=99s on the late side, so will try to make it worthit. photos, watch for a post over at number5typecollection.com. *Thursday - Boston to AC* Last time the National was in AC, I drove the whole way form Boston, but this year came on the heels of 11 hours of driving home from Prince Edward Island, so it had to be flying. Spirit Air's the only airline connecting Boston and Atlantic City and it=E2=99s an airborne version of shopping Chandy Greenholt=E2=99s miscellaneous show table: confusing to many, but if you know what to expect, you can be pleasantly surprised. (Too bad Chandy wasn=E2=99t at this year=E2=99sNational for me to pass along this metaphor in person.) Spirit even charges passengers for carry ons, so I saved my OBC dollars by living for four days out of one shoulder bag. Getting to the show was straightforward and OBC-friendly Ron Estes was close to the main entrance this year, with Jerry (assisted by OBCer Nick P) not far away, so I ran into OBCers early and often. Sal, Ken, and Mac were already talking about Wednesday=E2=99s good deals, including Mac=E2=99s Life* find-of-the-decade. Nothing gets you off on the right foot for a National like exchanging OBC handshakes and realizing after two tables that you=E2=99ll need to start new sets (1960 - 63 Fleer for me). Being a short day, Thursday came and went quickly. OBC reconvened for dinner at the Black Cat roadhouse bar and my highlight was a game of 1968 Topps Game with Bob Reed, who brought his set. If you play by flipping through and re-shuffling the same deck, you=E2=99ll find there=E2=99sone home run (Willie Mays), so whoever gets Mays a few times often wins. It was back-and-forth for Bob and me early on, but late-inning dramatics kept the score even after 9 innings. Bob and I figured winning was just a question of getting Mays first. Yet we stayed dramatically scoreless for 5 more innings and it wasn=E2=99t until the 15th that Mays pushed me over the edge he couldn=E2=99t quite come back in the last half. Thanks to Bob for a great The National program included a full floor map and I challenged myself to do something I=E2=99d wanted to finished at previous shows: stop by every at the show at least once. Give each one a quick look, figure if they had low-grade vintage, and move on if not. With about 25 long and wide rows of dealers and many of them stocking vintage, that takes a while. At the close of Friday, I=E2=99d seen perhaps half the booths and could really feel all concrete in my heels. It=E2=99s a shame the National commits so much carpet the center and so little to the edges, because your average vintage collector doesn=E2=99t have knees of steel. Sal and others took aim for Caesar=E2=99s Palace and I was persuaded to join, given its carpets (remember the knees) and air conditioning. Inside, we enjoyed some of the casino=E2=99s gaudy scenery and wandered slot machines the blackjack tables. Their slots have 50 new ways each year of taking your pennies, but a couple of us did better than even =E2=94 I left 45 cents in black and Sal hit big on one called Colossal Wizards for $80 of his own. As he said in his own ramble, the hit covered his $50 52T Pee Wee Reese (!) plus some. Speaking of good fortune, I did well sharing a hotel with Andy Huntoon and Nick P, both easy-going roommates. After three nights of shopping, you can imagine how much cardboard stacked up around the room. With another 4-5 hours spent walking around the concrete aisles, I finished my once-round of all the show booths by mid-afternoon Saturday. Not sure if it helped me find more deals, but I can tell you plenty of vintage is still out there to sift through. Relatively late, I spotted one card I hoped to take home, a 1933 Goudey mail-in premium of Ruth in solid PR-FR. Given the $600+ expense of most of those 1933 premiums, $250 seemed a reasonable price tag. Unfortunately, I hadn=E2=99t budgeted for $250 and couldn=E2=99t push the seller any lower, so it stayed in its case and I left a little in the tank for next time. OBC swaps are special events and we had another good one this year. I chatted with Wayne Delia and Randy Welk (among others) for the first times and even traded black-and-white Goudeys with our non-OBC visitor, Adam. While shorter than some swaps, you can blame that on AC=E2=99s hard-to-reach thus hard-to-return-from nature. If you=E2=99re in from the Midwest, leaving earlier ensures you=E2=99re home before it=E2=99s Monday. We marked a milestone during an OBC stop at the Topps custom card booth. After Sal, Ken, and I posed for cards in all kinds of company-provided gear (baseball glove and bat, MMA gloves, lightsabers, soccer ball), we started a live broadcast in our Facebook group to show off the new multi-sport "set." Bob Reed stopped by mid-show to mention he still needed a 1977 Hostess Garvey to finish his set. Jay Tysver tuned in, heard Bob=E2=99s request, and dropped a line confirming he had one. Pretty sure that=E2=99s OBC=E2=99s set killed via live broadcast! Sunday=E2=99s a blur of dealers packing up and final discounts posted. Ididn=E2=99t swing many last day specials, but at least my 200 new cards fit into the shoulder bag and Spirit didn=E2=99t charge me double for it. Will send a separate wrap-up of OBC thanks, as there are always many. Suffice to say I had a great time again and looking forward to 2017! ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 06:18:49 +0000 To: richard dingman , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vintage non-sport From: Matthew Glidden Hi Richard, did the donated lot include pre-war non-sport? My list has several sets from before 1940. http://www.number5typecollection.com/p/vintage-wantlist.html On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I picked up a lot of vintage non-sport random cards donated by Sam Majors > at the National. > If you are interested in any before 1960, please send me your wantlists > and I will see if I can target some hits. > Also, if you collect match book covers for college sports or US navy, lmk. > It will take me a couple weeks most likely to get through these as this is > my busy time of the year and I am rarely even home weekends. > Richard D > __,_._I,Ipicked up a lot of ___ ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 10:07:51 -0700 To: Anthony Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need update From: Rick I have a 87,133,136 brown Sent from my iPad > On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hell all, > Several have weighed in on there dupes > For the 76 set the following are confirmed brown > 37-54,79-85 which means 85,86,87 exist in a panel set,91-129,133 which means 133,134,135 exist in a panel set,139-150 > Given my math works..... > Which means the following are still in need of defining if there are brown backs out there > #1-36,55-78,88,89,90,136,137,138 > Lmk us all know > Ps. I just posted a need list on my trade page...one more variation in myquest > Thanks > Ant > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 12, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Ant wrote: >> jay, >> Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. >> So far the following are confirmed brown backs- >> #91-120,127,128,129,139-150 >> Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=E2=99s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone >> happy hunting >> Anthony >>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> They're not particularly rare. >>> Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. >>> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 >>> Jay Tysver >>> To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com >>> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >>> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs >>> Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed asmany brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? >>> Aaron >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? >>> Anthony >>> Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 12:39:35 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG AUCTION final email update before we start From: Aaron Shirley Over 80 items submitted! Starts tomorrow morning! Bidding opens MONDAY AUGUST 15TH at 8:00am Eastern. Lots may be added through WEDNESDAY AUGUST 17TH. The auction will end SATURDAY AUGUST 27TH at 10:00pm Eastern. New info since the last update: - Bid as high as you want. Amounts shown will reflect "eBay style" auction.In other words, I will add your bid at a dollar higher than the previous bidder's max. Then I will increase your bid automatically until it reaches your high or you are outbid. - Bids will be accepted in whole dollar amounts only. It's for a cause, notjust a good deal. - You may not see an email update right at 8am Monday to say the auction islive. Regardless, THE AUCTION IS LIVE STARTING ON MONDAY AT 8AM EASTERN! - The "live" edition is always viewable at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing - We do have a couple of UV-era items. They are shown on a separate tab on the "live edition." It's marked UV ITEMS. Don't miss those. Thanks again to all. Let's keep this fun, and remember what we're up to. Let's bless the Rittenberg family. Aaron Shirley LOT DESCRIPTIONBIDBIDDERDONOR1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$10no bidsCook1910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100$1no bidsWagner1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$30no bidsFitts1933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$25no bidsShepard1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$5no bidsElwell1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5no bidsGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5no bidsGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5no bidsGlidden1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$4no bidsAshton1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top$1no bidsDelott1950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$10no bidsDelia1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$5no bidsCook1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$30no bidsGuru1953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$1no bidsDelott1954 Topps #201 Al Kaline RC - GD condition if not for the 2 small punch holes and pinhole near the top of the card.Back is nicer than the front.$20no bidsSchock1957 Topps #407 Yankees PowerHitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$20no bidsGuru1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$2no bidsPelletier1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent cornersthis card is a beauty.$10no bidsGlasser1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases$1no bidsDelott1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4no bidsRainsley1959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$10no bidsRice1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$3no bidsCodere1960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126 and 131$10no bidsMorganti1960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$5no bidsPillion1961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5no bidsHuntoon1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1no bidsElwell1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10no bidsCook1961 Union Oil MikeShannon Portland Beavers ex$5no bidsCook1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$10no bidsCook1962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$1no bidsShirley1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$3no bidsCodere1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$2no bidsGuru1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle$30no bidsMead1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series$3no bidsRainsley1964 Topps 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$10no bidsRice1964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$1no bidsGlidden1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4no bidsRainsley1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5no bidsCook1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1no bidsDelott1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1no bidsShirley1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12no bidsAshton1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$3no bidsAshton1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$1no bidsElwell1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better$5no bidsCook1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1no bidsDelott1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$7no bidsGuru1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$5no bidsGray1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$10no bidsCook1970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5no bidsPillion1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$5no bidsAshton1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$1no bidsElwell1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$1no bidsDelott1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 610 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$100no bidsCook1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$7no bidsPelletier1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners no bidsFreedman1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$2no bidsValacak1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$5no bidsGray1973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$5no bidsGray1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$5no bidsGray1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$20no bidsTysver1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612$1no bidsElwell1975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$1no bidsShirley1976 Hostess complete set of 150 MB$10no bidsGlidden1976 SSPC complete set of 630 MB$20no bidsGlidden1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5no bidsCook1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCook1976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$5no bidsCook1977 Topps complete set from vending case$75no bidsCipra1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no no bidsFreedman1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCookBaseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5no bidsMeadBaseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloClassic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffeetable book, blue cover, fair condition$10no bidsMeadGlory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4no bidsElwellGreat Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10no bidsD'AngeloHome Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloOne of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreathTouching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreath "Lot 99" - one free high five for the cause ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:54:51 +0000 Subject: Brandon Wax From: Patrick Wattigny Hey gang, Y'all probably have seen the heavy flooding near Baton Rouge, Louisiana. This is VERY close to Brandon Wax. Throw up some good thoughts his way if you can today....ill get in touch with him and keep y'all posted. Fr. Pat Wattigny ================= Date: 14 Aug 2016 10:59:04 -0700 To: Subject: Big Apple bound in September From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 19:00:37 +0000 Subject: Brandon Wax update From: Patrick Wattigny I heard from Brandon about 10 minutes ago. His house did flawed, and he thinks most of his cards are probably lost, but he and his wife and children are safe at her parents house. The waters may take a while to recede, so do keep them in your thoughts and prayers. Fr. Pat Wattigny ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 15:17:18 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Show Report and a Willie Mays DScum! From: Jake Brewer I attended the Charlotte show yesterday and today. After a long drive back from the other baseball team my organization owns (the Savannah Bananas) I was only there for a few hours yesterday. I did get to chat with Doug Dejong for a few minutes (good to see you Doug,congrats again on the nice finds!) I then picked up 5-6 '39 & '40 Play Balls from Kurt Tourdot, along with a few '53 & '55T. I also snagged a '52T Larry Doby for that set! That was it besides some UV and Memorabilia pickups. Finally I acquired an upgrade to my '59T Willie Mays! That means I have a spare that I'm looking for $10 paypal F&F dlvd for it. It has some leftover (tape residue? Paper from something else?) on the front below the team name- but there's no paper loss from the actual card. A little off-center, but VG I'd say. If you'd like a scan, just ask. Sounds like an OBC card to me right? Overall I had fun, picked up a few things (almost forgot, snagged some 8 pocket pages to put some more cards in binders! Yay!) saw a fellow OBCer, andhad a good weekend looking at cardboard! Let me know if you are interested in the Mays! -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 16:02:02 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Brandon Wax update From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Thanks for the update Father Pat. Of course I have heard of the flooding but didn=E2=99t think about an OBC Member being impacted. A quick address search on the OBC website shows Brandons address =E2=9CDenham Springs, LA=E2=9D and it appears to be one of the areas hardest hit. The pictures and videos show the devastation. Glad you and your family are safe Brandon, cards can be replaced! ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 16:52:33 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need update From: Andy Huntoon Damn Rick! 87 million Browns! That's crazy Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I have a 87,133,136 brown > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hell all, >> Several have weighed in on there dupes >> For the 76 set the following are confirmed brown >> 37-54,79-85 which means 85,86,87 exist in a panel set,91-129,133 which means 133,134,135 exist in a panel set,139-150 >> Given my math works..... >> Which means the following are still in need of defining if there are brown backs out there >> #1-36,55-78,88,89,90,136,137,138 >> Lmk us all know >> Ps. I just posted a need list on my trade page...one more variation in my quest box >> Thanks >> Ant >> Sent from my iPad >>> On Aug 12, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Ant wrote: >>> jay, >>> Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. >>> So far the following are confirmed brown backs- >>> #91-120,127,128,129,139-150 >>> Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=E2=99s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone >>> happy hunting >>> Anthony >>>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> They're not particularly rare. >>>> Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. >>>> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 >>>> Jay Tysver >>>> To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com >>>> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >>>> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >>>> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs >>>> Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? >>>> Aaron >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> Hello all, >>>> Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? >>>> Anthony >>>> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:12:46 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: Ken M I need 151 - 87,133,137 for my set now... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sun, Aug 14, 2016 4:59 PMTo: Rick;Cc: Anthony;JAY TYSVER;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need update Damn Rick! 87 million Browns!  That's crazy Sent from my iPhone On Aug 14, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   I have a 87,133,136 brown Sent from my iPad On Aug 12, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   Hell all,Several have weighed in on there dupesFor the 76 set the following are confirmed brown37-54,79-85 which means 85,86,87 exist in a panel set,91-129,133 which means 133,134,135 exist in a panel set,139-150Given my math works..... Which means the following are still in need of defining if there are brown backs out there#1-36,55-78,88,89,90,136,137,138 Lmk us all know Ps. I just posted a need list on my trade page...one more variation in my quest box Sent from my iPad On Aug 12, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Ant wrote: jay,Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. So far the following are confirmed brown backs-#91-120,127,128,129,139-150 Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #’s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone know.happy hunting On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: They're not particularly rare.  Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=713294 Jay Tysver Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Hello all, Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? Sent from my iPad Posted by: Andy Huntoon > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html ================= Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:26:42 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Card show report(s) --- and am I becoming scummy? From: Doug DeJong Yesterday I got to a show in Charlotte and saw Taylor again, along with Len Medeiras (sic?) a former OBCer whose name I remember. (He called me Kent repeatedly, so apparently I look like a Kent to him - LOL!). Day started off with a bang as I found a guy with some decent looking T206s with major back damage. I scooped up 13 including Griffith, Joss, Bresnahan and Baker. Handed them to the guy thinking from his pricing and comments on discounts it would be about $150, a big chunk of what I wanted to spend for the day. He knocked it to $90 and I walked away kind of shocked. I pointed Taylor to the table along with Kurt Tourdot and I think they snagged the remaining good deals on prewar the guy had. Maybe I should have kept my mouth quiet and grabbed the t205s etc he had! Other big highlights were a 53 Bowman Whitey Ford for $8 (1% BV) from Uncle Dick, who I had never met but he saw the OBC shirt and sent me to the right vintage boxes! Had major hits to the 59 Topps set (down to a dozen -- Gibson and odds and ends), got the 55 Topps to four (Jackie Robisnon and three common high numbers), a big chunk of the 60 Fleer including the Williams for $8 due to a tiny amount of ink on the back. Taylor was also amazing helping me find hits to my 1971 Topps set .....getting super close there too with some tough high numbers and SPs left. Lastly, I went nuts and bought the complete set of 1961 Post from a guy that is in amazing shape (especially the short print no names and the company cards) for a price too low to pass up. Like I would have spent more for the remaining 64 cards I needed, easily. Not sure if I will keep it or sell it. Which leads to the scummy part. I have never sold any cards -- no philosophical issues with it, just have done it. However, last weekend while many were enjoying the National I stopped at a hotel show in Hendersonville NC. With 20 tables, I had zero expectations. Assumed it would all be UV and maybe someone might have some supplies. But my wife wanted to go to downtown Hendersonville one day so let's try it! First table was all vintage. Slabbed prewar, Mantles, etc. Had a 1953 Bowman Campanella he wanted $25 for as his lowest offer, and it was first it. Decided to look around first. Several vintage dealers were there to my delight and I picked up many nice hits. One guy had some 1952 topps and I casually mentioned how expensive the high's were getting. He pulled out three and as I was looking at them -- no interest at all in going there -- he throws out a price of $100. For the three. One was a beater, two were rough but not horrible. Sold. Long story short, because I wasn't thinking I would ever work on that set and hadn't planned on spending that much money that morning, I ended up selling one (the one in between grade wise) to the first dealer for $60 and the Campenalla. In my mind, I just paid $15 for two Topps highs, one a Dodger. So, back to yesterday. I have gone WAY over budget for the day, again, when I see the same dealer from Hendersonville is in Charlotte, and Jake 'the kid' knows him and is at his table. End up selling him six of the T206s -- kept the Joss, Bresnahan and Baker plus four others - for $120, 33% more than I paid for all 13 a few hours ago. Does this make me dealer scum? Is there a program I should quickly enroll in?? Is there a cure? So, I am officially collecting T206s since I am about to about 60 now. (God help me - no cure for this collecting bug). Does anyone have an electronic listing I can use to start tracking what I have and don't have? I already have a have dozen dupes just by picking up bargain beaters from time to time. This hobby just keeps getting more fun. Especially great seeing other collectors at the shows. Next time I will assume Taylor and Jake will be there and have hand shakes ready! ================= Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:23:21 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Brandon Wax update From: Brandon Hey guys, just checking in. Thanks to father pat and others who were concerned. House did flood but we were able to catch a boat out before then. Wentto my office and stayed there. Fortunately the water only came to the doorstep there but not inside. My family (wife, 5 year old girl, and twin 3 year old boys) is high and dry now at my brother in laws house today. Extended family is all out and safe as well, thank God for that. Almost all my friends and relatives are flooded but evacuated too, so we're counting our blessings. Everything else is just stuff. Water is dropping so hopefully going back to see what's left today. Both cars were in the garage. My sports collection was all pretty much in my upstairs man-cave, so I might be left with nothing BUT my cards, lol! Anyway, thanks for checking and keep my town in your prayers please! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 15 Aug 2016 08:14:06 -0700 To: Subject: Trade ref - Greg Boivin From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: "james_moleta@hotmail.com" , Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 10:52:15 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Trade ref - Greg Boivin From: JAY TYSVER I have traded with him. Very successful trade. Lots of communication. We went back and forth until we decided on the best trade for each. Jay Tysver To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 08:14:06 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Trade ref - Greg Boivin Anybody traded with Greg Boivin? I spotted him on N54 but he has onlybeen there for 3 posts. LMK - thanks! ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:05:49 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction - first bids are in! From: Aaron Shirley Over 100 lots already, and possibly a few more coming in soon. Bids received so far from Cook, Corvello, Gray, Hutchinson, Tripler, Zentkovich. Keep 'em coming in! Several suggestions incorporated in this edition. More to come. Live version here, so you can see when I've updated: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Thanks to all! Aaron Shirley LOT DESCRIPTIONBIDBIDDERDONOR1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$10GrayCook1909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture)$20no bidsWubben1910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100$1CorvelloWagner1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$30CookFitts1912T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie$3no bidsWubben1919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons$5no bidsFitts1921 Exhibit Powell fair$5no bidsWubben1933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape$1no bidsReed1933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$25CookShepard1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$11CorvelloElwell1938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape$1no bidsReed1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5TriplerGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5TriplerGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5TriplerGlidden1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$4no bidsAshton1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top$1no bidsDelott1950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$10CorvelloDelia1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$11CorvelloCook1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$30no bidsGuru1953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$1no bidsDelott1954 Topps #201 Al Kaline RC - GD condition if not for the 2 small punch holes and pinhole near the top of the card. Back is nicer than the front.$20CookSchock1957 Topps #18 Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and an ink blob, butpresents nicely otherwise no bidsMack1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$20no bidsGuru1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$2no bidsPelletier1958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White Sox VGEX 20.00 bv. Super nice, just o/c$1no bidsZentkovich1959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g$5no bidsWubben1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10no bidsGlasser1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases$1no bidsDelott1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4HutchinsonRainsley1959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$10no bidsRice1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$3CorvelloCodere1960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126 and 131$10no bidsMorganti1960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$5no bidsPillion1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4$5no bidsTripler1961Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5no bidsHuntoon1961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv$1no bidsZentkovich1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1no bidsElwell1961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX)$5no bidsTripler1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10no bidsCook1961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex$5no bidsCook1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$10no bidsCook1962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$6CorvelloShirley1962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards$5no bidsFitts1962Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$3TriplerCodere1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$2no bidsGuru1963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph...$30no bidsTaylor1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle$30no bidsMead1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series$3no bidsRainsley1964 Topps 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$10CorvelloRice1964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$1no bidsGlidden1964 Topps Giant#38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4no bidsRainsley1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor$2TriplerWubben1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5no bidsCook1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1no bidsDelott1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1no bidsShirley1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12no bidsAshton1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$3no bidsAshton1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$1no bidsElwell1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better$5GrayCook1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1no bidsDelott1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$11GrayGuru1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$5no bidsGray1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$10no bidsCook1970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5no bidsPillion1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$5no bidsAshton1970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv$1no bidsZentkovich1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$1no bidsElwell1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$1no bidsDelott1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$100no bidsCook1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$7no bidsPelletier1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners$10no bidsFreedman1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$2no bidsValacak1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$5no bidsGray1973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$5ZentkovichGray1975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition no bidsGoto1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$5ZentkovichGray1975 Topps Lou Brock, EX or better no bidsGoto1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs$10no bidsYudt1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$20no bidsTysver1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612$1no bidsElwell1975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$1ZentkovichShirley1976 Hostess complete set of 150 MB$10no bidsGlidden1976 SSPC complete set of 630 MB$20no bidsGlidden1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5no bidsCook1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCook1976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$5no bidsCook1977 Topps complete set from vending case$75no bidsCipra1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease$10no bidsFreedman1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCook25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards$5no bidsFittsAutographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card$5no bidsFittsBaseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5no bidsMeadBaseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed AmericanSports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloClassic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$10no bidsMeadGlory of Their Times: The Story of theEarly Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4no bidsElwellGreat Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10no bidsD'AngeloHome Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloOne of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, byKathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreathRemembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts$5no bidsFittsTouching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10nobidsGalbreathUV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM)$1no bidsZentkovichUV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards.$5no bidsSanknerUV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present$1no bidsZentkovichUV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present$1no bidsZentkovichUV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T CareerHigh Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels$10no bidsCodere Lot 999: One free high five for the cause ================= Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:34:10 -0700 To: Ant Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs Survey in need From: Stamper Ant and all Here is what I have brown from the 76 Hostess set. 38, 92, 95, 103, 106, 113, 114, 115, 128, 134, 139, 141, 144, 149 John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Aug 12, 2016, at 2:51 PM, "Ant anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > jay, > Thanks for the link. I want to do a survey on this after reading and searching my cards. > So far the following are confirmed brown backs- > #91-120,127,128,129,139-150 > Can everyone which has cards check to see if they find any other #=E2=99s in brown and let me know. I would be happy to catalog this and let everyone > happy hunting > Anthony >> On Aug 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> They're not particularly rare. >> Here is a thread on it. Not sure it answers muhc. >> http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p713294 >> Jay Tysver >> To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com >> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 19:16:21 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 hostess brown backs >> Wasn't it that they were brown backs in the south? I haven't noticed as many brown as black, but they are certainly not rare, right? >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 11, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hello all, >> Wondering what is the scoop on the brown backs for this set? >> Anthony >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:42:55 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Hockey cards From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Anyone need any of these Hockey cards all are in the Vg range some better some worse let me know if you need any of these with your address. ThanksNick Covello 1976-77 Topps: 29, 34, 39, 53, 63, 90, 94, 111, 127, 135, 137, 145, 160, 184, 230, 232, 238, 239, 240, 241 1977/78 Topps: 10, 19, 21, 32, 39, 40, 52, 57, 69, 109, 127, 130, 149, 161, 165, 175, 179, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 190, 199, 204, 222, 225, 234, 246 1979/80 Topps: 74, 99, 142, 152 ================= Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:32:19 -0400 To: kevin martens Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National's Picture 8 From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Not that he isn't a VERY photogenic OBCer, but did anybody get a picture that Sal is NOT in? Curious in Twinsburg On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 2:42 PM, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > [image: DSC00268.JPG] Sam Taylor ================= Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 17:49:34 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Kevins Photos From The National From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Am I the only one who cannot see these pictures? ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:42:01 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction - a strong first day already! From: Aaron Shirley Hey, we are STILL getting new lots added. Keep on lookin' it over. Might find something new you would like! Live version (updated several times a day) is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing That's also included in case the servers truncate the message before you get the whole spreadsheet. You will know you've seen the whole spreadsheet inthis email if you see "Lot 999" down below. Thanks to the guys in each column - and everyone who is still mulling it over! LOT DESCRIPTIONBIDBIDDERDONOR1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$16CraigCook1909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture)$32GrayWubben1910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100$12CraigWagner1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$41CraigFitts1912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie$6GrayWubben1919-21 W514 - lot of4 tiptons$8CraigFitts1921 Exhibit Powell fair$5MeadWubben1933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape$1CraigReed1933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$36PelletierShepard1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiumslot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$11CorvelloElwell1938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape$1CraigReed1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unlessyou have a wantlist$5TriplerGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5TriplerGlidden1947-66 Exhibitstarter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$5TriplerGlidden1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$4no bidsAshton1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top$1no bidsDelott1950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$10CorvelloDelia1952 Topps #345 Sam White, highnumber, tipton$21CraigCook1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G nopaper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$30CraigGuru1953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$1no bidsDelott1954 Topps #201 Al Kaline RC - GD condition if not for the 2 small punch holes and pinhole near the top of the card. Back is nicer than the front.$31CookSchock1957 Topps #18 Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and an ink blob, but presents nicely otherwise$11CraigMack1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$20no bidsGuru1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$11CraigPelletier1958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS WhiteSox VGEX 20.00 bv. Super nice, just o/c$1HenthornZentkovich1959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g$5ElwellWubben1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10no bidsGlasser1959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G$4no bidsHenthorn1959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c$3no bidsHenthorn1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases$1no bidsDelott1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4HutchinsonRainsley1959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$26SanknerRice1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$6CorvelloCodere1960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117121 126 and 131$15MeadMorganti1960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$5no bidsPillion1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4$5no bidsTripler1961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5CraigHuntoon1961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv$1CovelloZentkovich1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1no bidsElwell1961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX)$5SanknerTripler1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10CraigCook1961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beaversex$5MeadCook1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$11G.MillerCook1962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$6CorvelloShirley1962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards$5GalbreathFitts1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For TheDodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$3TriplerCodere1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$2no bidsGuru1963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph...$30no bidsTaylor1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle$40AshtonMead1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series$3GalbreathRainsley1964 Topps 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$21GalbreathRice1964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$1G.MillerGlidden1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4no bidsRainsley1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor$2TriplerWubben1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5no bidsCook1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$5AshtonCook1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48Raditz less scuffed$1no bidsDelott1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1no bidsShirley1966 Topps #486 Tommy John, VG$4no bidsHenthorn1967 Topps #215 ErnieBanks, P/F with creasing$2no bidsHenthorn1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12no bidsAshton1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$3HenthornAshton1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$1no bidsElwell1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better$8CovelloCook1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1no bidsDelott1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$11GrayGuru1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$5MeadGray1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$10no bidsCook1970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5no bidsPillion1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2no bidsValacak1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$5no bidsAshton1970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv$1no bidsZentkovich1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$1no bidsElwell1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$1no bidsDelott1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$100no bidsCook1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$2nobidsValacak1971 Topps #26 Blyleven RC, EX$4no bidsHenthorn1971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudge on top border$7no bidsHenthorn1971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13, Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease)$5no bidsHenthorn1971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+$2no bidsHenthorn1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$7CovelloPelletier1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners$10no bidsFreedman1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$2no bidsValacak1972 Topps #79Fisk/Cooper RC, G$4no bidsHenthorn1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different(poor)$5MeadGray1973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+$2no bidsHenthorn1973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G$2no bidsHenthorn1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$5ZentkovichGray1974 Topps starter lot, 160 cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary$3no bidsHutchinson1974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX$2no bidsHenthorn1975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition$10nobidsGoto1975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG$3no bidsHenthorn1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$5ZentkovichGray1975 Topps Lou Brock, EX or better$2nobidsGoto1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs$13G.MillerYudt1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$22G.MillerTysver1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612$1no bidsElwell1975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$4ZentkovichShirley1976 Hostess complete set of 150$10PelletierGlidden1976 SSPC complete set of 630$20PelletierGlidden1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookieex$5no bidsCook1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCook1976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$5CraigCook1977 Topps complete set from vending case$75no bidsCipra1977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+$5no bidsHenthorn1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, nocrease$10no bidsFreedman1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCook25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards$5no bidsFittsAutographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card$5no bidsFittsBaseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5no bidsMeadBaseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloClassic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$10no bidsMeadGlory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4no bidsElwellGreat Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10MeadD'AngeloHome Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloOne of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreathRemembering JapaneseBaseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts$5HenthornFittsTouching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreathUV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM)$1CraigZentkovichUV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards.$5no bidsSanknerUV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present$1no bidsZentkovichUV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present$1AshtonZentkovichUV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels$10no Lot 999: one high five for the cause (just bidding to show support - everyone who bids on this lot wins. ================= Date: 16 Aug 2016 12:13:48 -0700 To: Subject: re: Kevins Photos From The National From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:50:07 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Kevins Photos From The National From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, I have been sending pictures, they are leaving here as when I open my send mail, the picture is attached? Anyone have any clue what the issue is? I like to show the galley of Sal pictures..lol Happy Trading, ================= Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:33:40 -0400 To: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kevins Photos From The National From: Andy Huntoon I've been able to see a few of them but not all of them. Not sure what the problem is though. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:50 PM, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi all, > I have been sending pictures, they are leaving here as when I open my send mail, the picture is attached? > Anyone have any clue what the issue is? > I like to show the galley of Sal pictures..lol > Happy Trading, > Kevin ================= Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:01:45 -0700 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kevins Photos From The National From: Rick Me too a few have showed up some no. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I've been able to see a few of them but not all of them. Not sure what the problem is though. > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:50 PM, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Hi all, >> I have been sending pictures, they are leaving here as when I open my send mail, the picture is attached? >> Anyone have any clue what the issue is? >> I like to show the galley of Sal pictures..lol >> Happy Trading, >> Kevin ================= Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:20:23 -0400 To: "KEVINM38@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kevins Photos From The National From: Doug I've had no problem viewing them although some were slow to load. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:50 PM, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi all, > I have been sending pictures, they are leaving here as when I open my send mail, the picture is attached? > Anyone have any clue what the issue is? > I like to show the galley of Sal pictures..lol > Happy Trading, > Kevin ================= Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:36:57 -0400 To: KEVINM38@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Kevins Photos From The National From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I see them embedded in the aol email. Might want to try to send as Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/16/2016 7:50:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi all, I have been sending pictures, they are leaving here as when I open my send mail, the picture is attached? Anyone have any clue what the issue is? I like to show the galley of Sal pictures..lol Happy Trading, ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:45:03 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: question From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Just got this email from Art Wainwright, not sure why he contacted me, but whoever is in charge of this here is the info.Nick Covello Nick, I have been away from OBC for some time and wondering if I can still be involved? Thanks, Art Wainwright.awainwright@voyager.net ================= Date: 17 Aug 2016 06:13:46 -0700 To: Subject: Card insurance From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:07:21 -0400 To: nmack03@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card insurance From: Jake Brewer I'm also interested in what others have done- my insurance agency told me that it was covered under my home-owners insurance as long as I had picturesof everything and had it documented (which luckily I had already done). -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:13 AM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I was wondering if any of you guys carried an insurance policy for your collections. My home insurance agent said only a fraction would be covered under the home owners insurance. Please send any advice this way... > Thanks, > Nate Mack ================= To: "nmack03@yahoo.com" , Jake Brewer Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:16:49 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card insurance From: Mac Wubben I use collectible insurance agency : http://collectinsure.com/ I would be interested in hearing from anyone who uses their home-owners insurance From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:07 PM To: nmack03@yahoo.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card insurance I'm also interested in what others have done- my insurance agency told me that it was covered under my home-owners insurance as long as I had picturesof everything and had it documented (which luckily I had already done). -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:13 AM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] I was wondering if any of you guys carried an insurance policy for your collections. My home insurance agent said only a fraction would be covered under the home owners insurance. Please send any advice this way... Nate Mack ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:29:05 -0500 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card insurance From: OBC Nick P Each state had their own insurance laws. Different regulations and different items allowed. MOST homeowners or renters policies do cover collectibles to a certain dollar amount. Generally that is a small number; I believe Minnesota covers upto $2000. After that, there is zero coverage. Most companies will insure above the accepted amount, however, that would require an additional rider on the policy. This is an extra premium. Abouta decade ago I contacted my insurance agent at State Farm. They told me everything I would need to do to add the rider.....an appraisal, photos, documentation....and the premium. They gave me an annual premium number roughly 10% of the appraised value. I did a lot of research and changed insurance companies. My homeowners, auto, etc policies are with one company. I use American Collectors Insurance. They are a company out of New Jersey.Premiums are very reasonable, though, paying that bill always sucks. I have to maintain a list of what is in the collection. An appraisal wasn't required. I tell them what it's worth. In the event of a loss it is up to me to prove what the value of list items are. American Collectors wants an itemized list of items valued 2K or more. Easy enough to do. I also send them event auction results to show the valuation of those items. I think it's worth it for the chance of a loss. Nick Pelletier > On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm also interested in what others have done- my insurance agency told methat it was covered under my home-owners insurance as long as I had pictures of everything and had it documented (which luckily I had already done). > -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 17, 2016, at 9:13 AM, nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I was wondering if any of you guys carried an insurance policy for your collections. My home insurance agent said only a fraction would be coveredunder the home owners insurance. Please send any advice this way... >> Thanks, >> Nate Mack ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:46:54 +0000 Subject: A few availables From: Mac Wubben Let me know if you'd like to claim any of these: 1959 Topps 450 (mathews) 1959 Topps #519 Infield Power 1960 Topps #572 Antonelli AS 1963 Fleer 48 49 54 65 66 1965 Embossed 35 Hunt 1968 Topps 256 Horton 360 Cash 1971 Topps 633 1972 Topps 661 1976 Hostess: 2 3 123 124 142 1977 Hostess: 12 1979 Topps 115 Ryan ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:15:05 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Card Insurance From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I also use Collectibles Insurance Services http://collectinsure.com I have $39,200 of coverage (probably under insured) and my cost is $262 peryear. My cards are covered either here or in a safety deposit box at a bank. Interesting note, if you do not pay for extra insurance, your cards are not insured in a safety deposit box. This insurance also appears to cover my collection if I travel with it (maybe to sell at a show) or it appears itis covered if it is part of an exhibition. They also cover to some degree stuff that is mailed. Many Net54 members recommend this company and they are usually set up at the National. I=E2=99ve never had a claim. ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:45:12 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National pictures From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Hey guys Here are some pictures from the national. Most are Kevins. I thought I would resize them a bit and hopefully those having trouble seeing them can now. Thanks Kevin. And, thanks everyone. I will send out proper thank yous soon. I really appreciate all the generosity. I came back from the national driving 600 miles a day and am quite sick from it all and had to start work right away. Very well worth it. Talk to you soon and thanks again. Randy Welk ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 13:51:18 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National pictures try again From: rjsfgmv@aol.com or maybe this will work better ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:31:08 -0400 To: rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National pictures try again [1 Attachment] From: "Samuel E. Taylor" I can't tell. Is that Sal on the far right or in the middle? On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, rjsfgmv@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_-2500028434339570784_TopText> from rjsfgmv@aol.com > included below] > or maybe this will work better > RW Sam Taylor ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:18:19 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Packaging/Shipping tips for magazines/programs From: mark zentkovich if any of you ship these regularly, what kind of packaging do you use? what service level of mail do you use for 1 or 2 mags? I have a few hard envelopes like you would put a picture, and some padded envelopes as well. thanks, mark zentkovich ================= To: yahoogroups , mark zentkovich Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:36:03 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Packaging/Shipping tips for magazines/programs From: Taylor Schock Large manilla envelope. Mag between 2 pieces of cardboard (if it matters). Seal with packaging tape and send. Depending on the mag, you may (technically) be able to send media mail, but some of us do it even it not technically From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:18 PM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Packaging/Shipping tips for magazines/programs if any of you ship these regularly, what kind of packaging do you use? what service level of mail do you use for 1 or 2 mags? I have a few hard envelopes like you would put a picture, and some padded envelopes as well. thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 16:59:13 -0400 To: Glenn Codere Subject: 1970 Man on the Moon From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Glenn I just thumbed through my 1970 Man on the Moon (NO. =E2=94 OF 99) and I have several printed in Canada. Eight cards! ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 18:31:41 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction: FAQ and current bid sheet From: Aaron Shirley I've now received or sent over 300 emails relating to the Rittenberg auction. Thanks so much for the extensive interest! A lot of folks are asking thesame few questions, so here's a FAQ to hopefully help you. If you still have questions after reading, please don't hesitate to email me at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com for anything at all. It's my pleasure to help ya. WHAT'S THIS FOR? Steve Rittenberg's wife Gina has been in the hospital for over 2 months now, with some SERIOUS health issues. They have had many thousands of dollars in expenses associated with this hospital stay. I asked Steve if he would be alright if we did an auction to share a little of our concern, camaraderie and brotherhood... and give a bit of monetary help whilewe're at it. CAN I DONATE A LOT? Yes. But submissions end after tonight. At the earliestpossible time Thursday morning, I will add all bids in my email inbox, then add all new lot submissions in my email inbox, then add lot numbers. WHEN DOES IT END? The auction is currently scheduled to end at 10pm Easternon Saturday August 27th. There has been a request to extend it through Labor Day weekend though. Seems OK to me. The decision will be made and published with several days' notice. HOW DO I BID? Email me your bids at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com - all it needs to be is a bid amount and brief lot description. It isn't necessary toput each item on a new line, but it sure helps, what with the loads of bidsheets I'm getting. Bid on one lot or a hundred lots, no problem. And if you want to send multiple emails, that's fine too. All bids are processed inthe order they are received. HOW DO BID AMOUNTS WORK? Basically like eBay. Bid as high as you want. OnlyI will know that max amount. The amount you pay - the amount shown on the spreadsheet and in server emails - will only be a dollar higher than the other bidders' max. In the event there are two bids of the same amount, the earlier bid takes precedence. Full dollar amounts only, please. DO I SEND YOU MY CARDS? No. At the end of the auction, after bidders have paid for their lots, donors send their cards directly to the bidders. WILL YOU PLEASE ADD LOT NUMBERS? Yes. As soon as we close off new submissions. So starting Thursday, August 18th, through the end of the auction, all lots will have a lot number for your convenience. :) Bid sheet is updated multiple times a day, but only emailed once. To check out the "live version" click here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharingThanks to all! LOT DESCRIPTION (includes all bids through Wednesday 7pm Eastern)BIDBIDDERDONOR1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$28WubbenCook1909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture)$33MartensWubben1910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100$15CraigWagner1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$63CraigFitts1912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie$9DonaldsonWubben1919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons$13DonaldsonFitts1921 Exhibit Powell fair$11DonaldsonWubben1933 Goudey lot of 2 with trimmed bottom border and album pasted backs$5HenthornMoleta1933 Goudey lot of 4 with trimmed bottom border$10MartensMoleta1933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape$4TiptonReed1933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$36PelletierShepard1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$11MartensElwell1938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape$10TiptonReed1941 Play Ball #41 Frankie Hayes, Philadelphia Athletics$5GlasserMoleta1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$11MartensGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$11MartensGlidden1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$11MartensGlidden1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$4MartensAshton1949 Bowman #98 Rizzuto - rounded corners, one goodcrease, some surface wear - call it fair - not road kill$13MeadPrickett1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top$3YudtDelott1950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$10CorvelloDelia1951 Bowman #31 Roy Campanella$31no bidsSchott1951 Bowman #32 Duke Snider$26no bidsSchott1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$33WubbenCook1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle.F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$33Rumley-WellsGuru1953 Bowman lot: #19 Darkcreased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$1Rumley-WellsDelott1954 Topps #201 Kaline RC - GD condition if not for 2 small punch holes and pinhole near top of card. Back is nicer than front.$31CookSchock1957 Topps #18 Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and an ink blob, but presents nicely otherwise$20LabsMack1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$23LabsGuru1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$13CraigPelletier1958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White SoxVGEX 20.00 bv. Super nice, just o/c$1HenthornZentkovich1958 Topps #487 Mantle AS - about 85% of the card: bitten off top corner$5no bidsMoleta1959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g$7LyonsWubben1959 Topps #1 Frick and 1965 Topps #1 AVG leaders w Brooks Robinson (both well-loved)$5no bidsMoleta1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10Rumley-WellsGlasser1959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G$5MartensHenthorn1959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c$3GreenwoodHenthorn1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases$1CovelloDelott1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4HutchinsonRainsley1959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$36CovelloRice1959 Topps lotof 3 - HOFers w/ clipped corners: 155 Slaughter, 260 Wynn, 352 Roberts$5CovelloMoleta1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T#563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$6CorvelloCodere1960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126 and 131$26TiptonMorganti1960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$5no bidsPillion1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4$10GlasserTripler1961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5CraigHuntoon1961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv$3CovelloZentkovich1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1no bidsElwell1961 Topps Stamp Album, empty, center page loose from the staples, PLUS 75 loose stamps taken out of albums$25no bidsLyons1961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX)$19SanknerTripler1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10CraigCook1961Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex$5MeadCook1961-62 Post lot of 8 diff. beaters, including Killebrew$7GlasserMoleta1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$11G.MillerCook1962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$8CorvelloShirley1962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards$13GalbreathFitts1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$6MartensCodere1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$2MoletaGuru1963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph...$30D'AngeloTaylor1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle$45Rumley-WellsMead1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series$3GalbreathRainsley1964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$13G.MillerGlidden1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4no bidsRainsley1964 Topps lot, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$31GalbreathRice1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor$4TriplerWubben1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5no bidsCook1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$7AshtonCook1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1Rumley-WellsDelott1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1AshtonShirley1966 Topps #486Tommy John, VG$4no bidsHenthorn1967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks, P/F with creasing$2Rumley-WellsHenthorn1967 Topps lot of 6 different pack fresh MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$6no bidsMoleta1967-69 lot of 5 HOF Tiptons:67T Kaline #30, 68T Perry #85, 68T Game Brooks #9, 69T Banks #20, 69T B.Williams #450$3HenthornMoleta1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12no bidsAshton1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$3HenthornAshton1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$1HenthornElwell1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better$8CovelloCook1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1no bidsDelott1969 Topps Deckle lot of 7 different w/ Aparicio$4no bidsMoleta1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$11GrayGuru1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$5MeadGray1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$10no bidsCook1970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5no bidsPillion1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$4TriplerValacak1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$5no bidsAshton1970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv$1HenthornZentkovich1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$1no bidsElwell1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$1nobidsDelott1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 8095 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$100no bidsCook1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$4TriplerValacak1971 Topps #26 Blyleven RC, EX$4AshtonHenthorn1971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudgeon top border$7Rumley-WellsHenthorn1971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13, Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease)$5no bidsHenthorn1971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+$2no bidsHenthorn1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$7CovelloPelletier1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners$10no bidsFreedman1972O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$4TriplerValacak1972 Topps #79 Fisk/Cooper RC, G$4no bidsHenthorn1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$5MeadGray1973Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg$5no bidsCook1973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+$2no bidsHenthorn1973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G$3MoletaHenthorn1973 Topps lot of 20 different Tiptons, guaranteed creases and a couple HOFers$1HenthornMoleta1973 Topps lot of 5 different MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$5no bidsMoleta1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$5ZentkovichGray1974 Topps starter lot, 160 cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary$3ZentkovichHutchinson1974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX$2no bidsHenthorn1975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition$10AshtonGoto1975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG$3no bidsHenthorn1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$5ZentkovichGray1975 Topps #540 Lou Brock, EXor better$2no bidsGoto1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almostall great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs$13G.MillerYudt1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$22G.MillerTysver1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612$1HenthornElwell1975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$4ZentkovichShirley1976 Hostess complete set of 150$52PelletierGlidden1976 SSPC complete set of 630$31PelletierGlidden1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5no bidsCook1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCook1976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$5CraigCook1977 Topps complete set from vending case$75no bidsCipra1977 Topps Football HOF lot of6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+$5ZentkovichHenthorn1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG,fuzzy corners, no crease$10AshtonFreedman1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCook25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards$5MoletaFittsAutographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card$6WubbenFittsBaseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5AshtonMeadBOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloBOOK: Classic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$10no bidsMeadBOOK: Glory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4no bidsElwellBOOK: Great Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10MeadD'AngeloBOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloBOOK: One of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10LabsGalbreathBOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts$5HenthornFittsBOOK: Touching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10no bidsGalbreathUV: 1989 Donruss AlanTrammell auto (TTM)$1CraigZentkovichUV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards.$5no bidsSanknerUV: 50 cards from your favoritefootball team, 1980 to present$3AshtonZentkovichUV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present$1AshtonZentkovichUV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels$10no bidsCodere Lot 999: one hearty high five for the cause. Bid as much as you want, and everyone who bids on this lot wins! ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:47:35 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction: Japanese Vintage Lot From: Robert Fitts Hey Guys I know that none of you collect Japanese cards BUT the lot of 25 vintage Japanese cards in the auction will be very nice. The lot will have a wholesale value (what I paid for it) of at least $100 and a book value of over $500 . I=92ll include 25 different type cards and the higher it goes the better the cards. I promise you that this is really the gem of the auction! On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > I've now received or sent over 300 emails relating to the Rittenberg auction. Thanks so much for the extensive interest! A lot of folks are asking the same few questions, so here's a FAQ to hopefully help you. If you still have questions after reading, please don't hesitate to email me at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com for anything at all. It's my pleasure to help ya. > Aaron > WHAT'S THIS FOR? Steve Rittenberg's wife Gina has been in the hospital for over 2 months now, with some SERIOUS health issues. They have had many thousands of dollars in expenses associated with this hospital stay. I asked Steve if he would be alright if we did an auction to share a little of our concern, camaraderie and brotherhood... and give a bit of monetary help while we're at it. > CAN I DONATE A LOT? Yes. But submissions end after tonight. At the earliest possible time Thursday morning, I will add all bids in my email inbox, then add all new lot submissions in my email inbox, then add lot numbers. > WHEN DOES IT END? The auction is currently scheduled to end at 10pm Eastern on Saturday August 27th. There has been a request to extend it through Labor Day weekend though. Seems OK to me. The decision will be made and published with several days' notice. > HOW DO I BID? Email me your bids at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com - all itneeds to be is a bid amount and brief lot description. It isn't necessary to put each item on a new line, but it sure helps, what with the loads of bid sheets I'm getting. Bid on one lot or a hundred lots, no problem. And ifyou want to send multiple emails, that's fine too. All bids are processed in the order they are received. > HOW DO BID AMOUNTS WORK? Basically like eBay. Bid as high as you want. Only I will know that max amount. The amount you pay - the amount shown on the spreadsheet and in server emails - will only be a dollar higher than the other bidders' max. In the event there are two bids of the same amount, theearlier bid takes precedence. Full dollar amounts only, please. > DO I SEND YOU MY CARDS? No. At the end of the auction, after bidders havepaid for their lots, donors send their cards directly to the bidders. > WILL YOU PLEASE ADD LOT NUMBERS? Yes. As soon as we close off new submissions. So starting Thursday, August 18th, through the end of the auction, all lots will have a lot number for your convenience. :) > Bid sheet is updated multiple times a day, but only emailed once. To check out the "live version" click here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing > Thanks to all! > LOT DESCRIPTION (includes all bids through Wednesday 7pm Eastern) BID BIDDER DONOR > 1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10 $28 Wubben Cook > 1909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture) $33 Martens Wubben > 1910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100 $15 Craig Wagner > 1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner $63 Craig Fitts > 1912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie $9 Donaldson Wubben > 1919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons $13 Donaldson Fitts > 1921 Exhibit Powell fair $11 Donaldson Wubben > 1933 Goudey lot of 2 with trimmed bottom border and album pasted backs $5Henthorn Moleta > 1933 Goudey lot of 4 with trimmed bottom border $10 Martens Moleta > 1933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape $4 Tipton Reed > 1933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection) $36Pelletier Shepard > 1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians,Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers $11 Martens Elwell > 1938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape $10 Tipton Reed > 1941 Play Ball #41 Frankie Hayes, Philadelphia Athletics $5 Glasser Moleta > 1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a > 1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a > 1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a > 1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition $4 Martens Ashton > 1949 Bowman #98 Rizzuto - rounded corners, one good crease, some surface wear - call it fair - not road kill $13 Mead Prickett > 1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top $3 Yudt Delott > 1950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition $10 Corvello Delia > 1951 Bowman #31 Roy Campanella $31 no bids Schott > 1951 Bowman #32 Duke Snider $26 no bids Schott > 1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton $33 Wubben Cook > 1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B $33 Rumley-Wells Guru > 1953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed $1 Rumley-Wells Delott > 1954 Topps #201 Kaline RC - GD condition if not for 2 small punch holes and pinhole near top of card. Back is nicer than front. $31 Cook Schock > 1957 Topps #18 Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and an ink blob, but presents nicely otherwise $20 Labs Mack > 1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B $23 Labs Guru > 1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner. $13 Craig Pelletier > 1958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White Sox VGEX 20.00 bv. Super nice, just o/c $1 Henthorn Zentkovich > 1958 Topps #487 Mantle AS - about 85% of the card: bitten off top corner $5 no > 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g $7 Lyons Wubben > 1959 Topps #1 Frick and 1965 Topps #1 AVG leaders w Brooks Robinson (bothwell-loved) $5 no > 1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightlybent corners this card is a beauty. $10 Rumley-Wells Glasser > 1959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G $5 Martens Henthorn > 1959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c $3 Greenwood Henthorn > 1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases $1 Covello Delott > 1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number $4 Hutchinson Rainsley > 1959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$36 Covello Rice > 1959 Topps lot of 3 - HOFers w/ clipped corners: 155 Slaughter, 260 Wynn,352 > 1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC $6 Corvello Codere > 1960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126 and 131 $26 Tipton Morganti > 1960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG $5 no bids Pillion > 1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4 $10 Glasser Tripler > 1961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss $5 Craig Huntoon > 1961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv $3 Covello Zentkovich > 1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor) $1 no bidsElwell > 1961 Topps Stamp Album, empty, center page loose from the staples, PLUS 75 loose stamps taken out of albums $25 no bids Lyons > 1961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX) $19 Sankner Tripler > 1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84 $10 Craig Cook > 1961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex $5 Mead Cook > 1961-62 Post lot of 8 diff. beaters, including Killebrew $7 Glasser Moleta > 1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4 $11 G.Miller Cook > 1962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice $8 Corvello Shirley > 1962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards $13 Galbreath Fitts > 1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex) $6 Martens Codere > 1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B $2 Moleta Guru > 1963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph... $30 D'Angelo Taylor > 1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle $45 Rumley-Wells Mead > 1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series $3 Galbreath Rainsley > 1964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed) $13 G.Miller Glidden > 1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex $4 no bids Rainsley > 1964 Topps lot, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex $31 Galbreath Rice > 1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor $4 Tripler Wubben > 1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex $5 no bids Cook > 1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg $7 Ashton Cook > 1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed $1 Rumley-Wells Delott > 1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell $1 Ashton Shirley > 1966 Topps #486 Tommy John, VG $4 no bids Henthorn > 1967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks, P/F with creasing $2 Rumley-Wells Henthorn > 1967 Topps lot of 6 different pack fresh MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are $6 no bids Moleta > 1967-69 lot of 5 HOF Tiptons: 67T Kaline #30, 68T Perry #85, 68T Game Brooks #9, 69T Banks #20, 69T B.Williams #450 $3 Henthorn Moleta > 1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+ $12 no bids Ashton > 1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition $3 Henthorn Ashton > 1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation $1 Henthorn Elwell > 1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better $8 Covello Cook > 1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation $1 no bids Delott > 1969 Topps Deckle lot of 7 different w/ Aparicio $4 no bids Moleta > 1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B $11 Gray Guru > 1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair) $5 Mead Gray > 1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg $10 no bids Cook > 1970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG $5 no bids Pillion > 1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot $4 Tripler Valacak > 1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition $5 no bids Ashton > 1970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv $1 Henthorn Zentkovich > 1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back) $1 no > 1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes $1 nobids Delott > 1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex $100 no > 1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot $4 Tripler Valacak > 1971 Topps #26 Blyleven RC, EX $4 Ashton Henthorn > 1971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudge on top border $7 Rumley-Wells Henthorn > 1971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13, Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease) $5 no bids Henthorn > 1971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+ $2 no bids Henthorn > 1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one $7 Covello Pelletier > 1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners $10 no bids Freedman > 1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot $4 Tripler Valacak > 1972 Topps #79 Fisk/Cooper RC, G $4 no bids Henthorn > 1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor) $5 Mead Gray > 1973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg $5 no bids Cook > 1973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+ $2 no bids Henthorn > 1973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G $3 Moleta Henthorn > 1973 Topps lot of 20 different Tiptons, guaranteed creases and a couple HOFers $1 Henthorn Moleta > 1973 Topps lot of 5 different MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are $5no > 1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good) $5 Zentkovich Gray > 1974 Topps starter lot, 160 cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary$3 Zentkovich Hutchinson > 1974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX $2 no bids Henthorn > 1975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition $10 Ashton Goto > 1975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG $3 no bids Henthorn > 1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor) $5 Zentkovich Gray > 1975 Topps #540 Lou Brock, EX or better $2 no bids Goto > 1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs $13 G.Miller Yudt > 1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt. $22 G.Miller Tysver > 1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612 $1 Henthorn Elwell > 1975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place $4 Zentkovich Shirley > 1976 Hostess complete set of 150 $52 Pelletier Glidden > 1976 SSPC complete set of 630 $31 Pelletier Glidden > 1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex $5 no bids Cook > 1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8 $10 no > 1976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45 $5 Craig Cook > 1977 Topps complete set from vending case $75 no bids Cipra > 1977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+ $5 Zentkovich Henthorn > 1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease $10 Ashton Freedman > 1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+ $5 no bids Cook > 25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards $5 Moleta Fitts > Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card $6 Wubben Fitts > Baseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin > BOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson $10 no bids D'Angelo > BOOK: Classic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition $10 no bids Mead > BOOK: Glory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape. $4 nobids Elwell > BOOK: Great Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross $10 Mead D'Angelo > BOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone $10 no bids D'Angelo > BOOK: One of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition $10 Labs Galbreath > BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts $5 Henthorn Fitts > BOOK: Touching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition $10 no > UV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM) $1 Craig Zentkovich > UV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards. $5 no bids Sankner > UV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present $3 Ashton Zentkovich > UV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present $1 Ashton Zentkovich > UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlanderjersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels $10 no > Lot 999: one hearty high five for the cause. Bid as much as you want, andeveryone who bids on this lot wins! ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:52:39 -0400 To: drsam9795@gmail.com, rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National pictures try again From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en No way I'm on the right..way too tall LOL... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/17/2016 2:31:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I can't tell. Is that Sal on the far right or in the middle? On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, _rjsfgmv@aol.com_ (mailto:rjsfgmv@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: (mip://0d17bfa8/default.html#m_-2500028434339570784_TopText) from _rjsfgmv@aol.com_ (mailto:rjsfgmv@aol.com) included below] or maybe this will work better Sam Taylor ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:29:28 -0400 To: Robert Fitts Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction: Japanese Vintage Lot with From: Robert Fitts So people asked for pictures. I haven=92t made up the lot yet, but the Japanese lot will include cards similar to these as well as some more valuablecards. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Japanese-Baseball-Vintage-Starter-Collection-20-Diff-Issues-1948-79-/261676243269 On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > Hey Guys > I know that none of you collect Japanese cards BUT the lot of 25 vintage Japanese cards in the auction will be very nice. The lot will have a wholesale value (what I paid for it) of at least $100 and a book value of over $500 . I=92ll include 25 different type cards and the higher it goes the better the cards. I promise you that this is really the gem of the auction! > rob > On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:31 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: >> I've now received or sent over 300 emails relating to the Rittenberg auction. Thanks so much for the extensive interest! A lot of folks are asking the same few questions, so here's a FAQ to hopefully help you. If you stillhave questions after reading, please don't hesitate to email me at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com for anything at all. It's my pleasure to help ya. >> Aaron >> WHAT'S THIS FOR? Steve Rittenberg's wife Gina has been in the hospital for over 2 months now, with some SERIOUS health issues. They have had many thousands of dollars in expenses associated with this hospital stay. I askedSteve if he would be alright if we did an auction to share a little of ourconcern, camaraderie and brotherhood... and give a bit of monetary help while we're at it. >> CAN I DONATE A LOT? Yes. But submissions end after tonight. At the earliest possible time Thursday morning, I will add all bids in my email inbox, then add all new lot submissions in my email inbox, then add lot numbers. >> WHEN DOES IT END? The auction is currently scheduled to end at 10pm Eastern on Saturday August 27th. There has been a request to extend it through Labor Day weekend though. Seems OK to me. The decision will be made and published with several days' notice. >> HOW DO I BID? Email me your bids at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com - all it needs to be is a bid amount and brief lot description. It isn't necessaryto put each item on a new line, but it sure helps, what with the loads of bid sheets I'm getting. Bid on one lot or a hundred lots, no problem. And if you want to send multiple emails, that's fine too. All bids are processedin the order they are received. >> HOW DO BID AMOUNTS WORK? Basically like eBay. Bid as high as you want. Only I will know that max amount. The amount you pay - the amount shown on the spreadsheet and in server emails - will only be a dollar higher than theother bidders' max. In the event there are two bids of the same amount, the earlier bid takes precedence. Full dollar amounts only, please. >> DO I SEND YOU MY CARDS? No. At the end of the auction, after bidders have paid for their lots, donors send their cards directly to the bidders. >> WILL YOU PLEASE ADD LOT NUMBERS? Yes. As soon as we close off new submissions. So starting Thursday, August 18th, through the end of the auction, all lots will have a lot number for your convenience. :) >> Bid sheet is updated multiple times a day, but only emailed once. To check out the "live version" click here: >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing >> Thanks to all! >> LOT DESCRIPTION (includes all bids through Wednesday 7pm Eastern) BID BIDDER DONOR >> 1909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10 $28 Wubben Cook >> 1909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture) $33 Martens Wubben >> 1910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100 $15 Craig Wagner >> 1911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner $63 Craig Fitts >> 1912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie $9 Donaldson Wubben >> 1919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons $13 Donaldson Fitts >> 1921 Exhibit Powell fair $11 Donaldson Wubben >> 1933 Goudey lot of 2 with trimmed bottom border and album pasted backs $5 Henthorn Moleta >> 1933 Goudey lot of 4 with trimmed bottom border $10 Martens Moleta >> 1933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape $4 Tipton Reed >> 1933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection) $36 Pelletier Shepard >> 1936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers $11 Martens Elwell >> 1938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape $10 Tipton Reed >> 1941 Play Ball #41 Frankie Hayes, Philadelphia Athletics $5 Glasser Moleta >> 1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you havea >> 1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you havea >> 1947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you havea >> 1947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition $4 Martens Ashton >> 1949 Bowman #98 Rizzuto - rounded corners, one good crease, some surfacewear - call it fair - not road kill $13 Mead Prickett >> 1950 Bowman #203 Murtaugh paper loss at top $3 Yudt Delott >> 1950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition $10 Corvello Delia >> 1951 Bowman #31 Roy Campanella $31 no bids Schott >> 1951 Bowman #32 Duke Snider $26 no bids Schott >> 1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton $33 Wubben Cook >> 1953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$33 Rumley-Wells Guru >> 1953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed $1 Rumley-Wells Delott >> 1954 Topps #201 Kaline RC - GD condition if not for 2 small punch holes and pinhole near top of card. Back is nicer than front. $31 Cook Schock >> 1957 Topps #18 Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and an ink blob, butpresents nicely otherwise $20 Labs Mack >> 1957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters Berra/Mantle. F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B $23 Labs Guru >> 1958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner. $13 Craig Pelletier >> 1958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White Sox VGEX 20.00 bv. Super nice, just o/c $1 Henthorn Zentkovich >> 1958 Topps #487 Mantle AS - about 85% of the card: bitten off top corner$5 no >> 1959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g $7 Lyons Wubben >> 1959 Topps #1 Frick and 1965 Topps #1 AVG leaders w Brooks Robinson (both well-loved) $5 no bids Moleta >> 1959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty. $10 Rumley-Wells Glasser >> 1959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G $5 Martens Henthorn >> 1959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c $3 Greenwood Henthorn >> 1959 Topps #547 Baxes - major creases $1 Covello Delott >> 1959 Topps #553 Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number $4 Hutchinson Rainsley >> 1959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG $36 Covello Rice >> 1959 Topps lot of 3 - HOFers w/ clipped corners: 155 Slaughter, 260 Wynn, 352 Roberts $5 Covello Moleta >> 1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC $6 Corvello Codere >> 1960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126 and 131 $26 Tipton Morganti >> 1960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG $5 no bids Pillion >> 1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4 $10 Glasser Tripler >> 1961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners.No writing or pinholes or paper loss $5 Craig Huntoon >> 1961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv $3 Covello Zentkovich >> 1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor) $1 no bids Elwell >> 1961 Topps Stamp Album, empty, center page loose from the staples, PLUS 75 loose stamps taken out of albums $25 no bids Lyons >> 1961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX) $19 Sankner Tripler >> 1961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84 $10 Craig Cook >> 1961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex $5 Mead Cook >> 1961-62 Post lot of 8 diff. beaters, including Killebrew $7 Glasser Moleta >> 1962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4 $11 G.Miller Cook >> 1962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice $8 Corvello Shirley >> 1962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards $13 Galbreath Fitts >> 1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex) $6 Martens Codere >> 1962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B $2 Moleta Guru >> 1963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on yourbelief in the autograph... $30 D'Angelo Taylor >> 1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle $45 Rumley-Wells Mead >> 1964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series $3 Galbreath Rainsley >> 1964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed) $13 G.Miller Glidden >> 1964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex $4 no bids Rainsley >> 1964 Topps lot, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex $31 Galbreath Rice >> 1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor $4 Tripler Wubben >> 1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex $5 no bids Cook >> 1965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg $7 Ashton Cook >> 1965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed $1 Rumley-Wells Delott >> 1966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell $1 Ashton Shirley >> 1966 Topps #486 Tommy John, VG $4 no bids Henthorn >> 1967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks, P/F with creasing $2 Rumley-Wells Henthorn >> 1967 Topps lot of 6 different pack fresh MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are $6 no bids Moleta >> 1967-69 lot of 5 HOF Tiptons: 67T Kaline #30, 68T Perry #85, 68T Game Brooks #9, 69T Banks #20, 69T B.Williams #450 $3 Henthorn Moleta >> 1968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+ $12 no bids Ashton >> 1968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition $3 Henthorn Ashton >> 1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation $1 Henthorn Elwell >> 1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better $8 Covello Cook >> 1969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation $1 no bids Delott >> 1969 Topps Deckle lot of 7 different w/ Aparicio $4 no bids Moleta >> 1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG.8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B $11 Gray Guru >> 1969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair) $5 Mead Gray >> 1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg $10 no bids Cook >> 1970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG $5 no bids Pillion >> 1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot $4 Tripler Valacak >> 1970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition $5 no bids Ashton >> 1970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv $1 Henthorn Zentkovich >> 1970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored onback) $1 no >> 1970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes $1 no >> 1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex $100no >> 1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot $4 Tripler Valacak >> 1971 Topps #26 Blyleven RC, EX $4 Ashton Henthorn >> 1971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudge on top border $7 Rumley-WellsHenthorn >> 1971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13, Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus isF (serious crease) $5 no bids Henthorn >> 1971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+ $2 no bids Henthorn >> 1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one $7 Covello Pelletier >> 1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners $10 no bids Freedman >> 1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot $4 Tripler Valacak >> 1972 Topps #79 Fisk/Cooper RC, G $4 no bids Henthorn >> 1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor) $5 Mead Gray >> 1973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg $5 no bids Cook >> 1973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+ $2 no bids Henthorn >> 1973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G $3 Moleta Henthorn >> 1973 Topps lot of 20 different Tiptons, guaranteed creases and a couple HOFers $1 Henthorn Moleta >> 1973 Topps lot of 5 different MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are $5 no >> 1974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good) $5 Zentkovich Gray >> 1974 Topps starter lot, 160 cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary $3 Zentkovich Hutchinson >> 1974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX $2 no bids Henthorn >> 1975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition $10 Ashton Goto >> 1975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG $3 no bids Henthorn >> 1975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor) $5 Zentkovich Gray >> 1975 Topps #540 Lou Brock, EX or better $2 no bids Goto >> 1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs $13 G.Miller Yudt >> 1975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt. $22 G.Miller Tysver >> 1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612 $1 Henthorn Elwell >> 1975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place $4 Zentkovich Shirley >> 1976 Hostess complete set of 150 $52 Pelletier Glidden >> 1976 SSPC complete set of 630 $31 Pelletier Glidden >> 1976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex $5 no bids Cook >> 1976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8 $10 no >> 1976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45 $5 Craig Cook >> 1977 Topps complete set from vending case $75 no bids Cipra >> 1977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274,Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+ $5 Zentkovich Henthorn >> 1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease $10 Ashton Freedman >> 1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+ $5 no bids Cook >> 25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards $5 Moleta Fitts >> Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card $6 Wubben Fitts >> Baseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin >> BOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson $10 no bids D'Angelo >> BOOK: Classic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition $10 no bids Mead >> BOOK: Glory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Toldby the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape. $4 no >> BOOK: Great Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross $10 Mead D'Angelo >> BOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone $10 no bids D'Angelo >> BOOK: One of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signedby Gene Conley exc. condition $10 Labs Galbreath >> BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts $5 Henthorn Fitts >> BOOK: Touching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition $10 no >> UV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM) $1 Craig Zentkovich >> UV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards. $5 nobids Sankner >> UV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present $3 AshtonZentkovich >> UV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present $1 AshtonZentkovich >> UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels $10 no >> Lot 999: one hearty high five for the cause. Bid as much as you want, and everyone who bids on this lot wins! ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 20:35:15 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I took some time this afternoon playing with my cards and also updating my =E2=9Cinventory=E2=9D sheets. I took the time to count my 1980 and prior sports cards and my total is 41,318 in the middle of the =E2=9CCharles Bray=E2=9D Level. I don=E2=99t remember what my count was the first ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:11:53 -0400 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: mikesportsfan@aol.com A few weeks ago someone asked about including non-sport cards in this quest. While I personally still think you non-sport card collectors are heathens, they do exist and I think they should be included. I think the rules committee should be petitioned to reconsider this issue. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2016 8:35 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels I took some time this afternoon playing with my cards and also updating my =E2=9Cinventory=E2=9D sheets. I took the time to count my 1980 and prior sports cards and my total is 41,318 in the middle of the =E2=9CCharles Bray=E2=9D Level. I don=E2=99t remember what my count was the first ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:05:09 -0700 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: Rick I'll petition the committee (George) if we add Nonsport cards we raise eachlevel by 5,000 since the founding fathers didn't get the opportunity. :) Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > A few weeks ago someone asked about including non-sport cards in this quest. While I personally still think you non-sport card collectors are heathens, they do exist and I think they should be included. I think the rules committee should be petitioned to reconsider this issue. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2016 8:35 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels > I took some time this afternoon playing with my cards and also updating my =E2=9Cinventory=E2=9D sheets. I took the time to count my 1980 and prior sports cards and my total is 41,318 in the middle of the =E2=9CCharles Bray=E2=9D Level. I don=E2=99t remember what my count was the first > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:09:10 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: Andy Huntoon I thought Burdick and them collected all cards whether sports or not. The ACC isn't just sports cards. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 17, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'll petition the committee (George) if we add Nonsport cards we raise each level by 5,000 since the founding fathers didn't get the opportunity. :) > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 17, 2016, at 6:11 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> A few weeks ago someone asked about including non-sport cards in this quest. While I personally still think you non-sport card collectors are heathens, they do exist and I think they should be included. I think the rulescommittee should be petitioned to reconsider this issue. >> Mike Rich >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: OBC Ramblings >> Sent: Wed, Aug 17, 2016 8:35 pm >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collectors Recognition Levels >> I took some time this afternoon playing with my cards and also updating my =E2=9Cinventory=E2=9D sheets. I took the time to count my 1980 andprior sports cards and my total is 41,318 in the middle of the =E2=9CCharles Bray=E2=9D Level. I don=E2=99t remember what my count was the first >> Guru ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 02:45:25 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: obc fantasy football From: mark zentkovich anyone else want to play obc fantasy football on yahoo? draft is sat night 800pm cst I have one or two openings depending on whether talbot joins in or not if interested please let me know I need to have an even number so may have to add one or two at a time if multiple new folks want in. thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:59:37 -0400 To: nickcov@yahoo.com, awainwright@voyager.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: question From: Tom Housley I'm copying Nick and Art Wainwright on this: According to my "master" OBC list, Art was dropped in January 2013 for non-payment of dues. As we've done with others who were in the same boat, we consider them leaving the group "in good standing", so those guys don't have to re-apply;- but in order to re-join, Art must either pay dues ($10), payable to our treasurer Bob Donaldson; or Art may request that dues be waived, i.e. plead hardship. This requirement is from our Rules of Conduct. Art, if you're reading this & want to catch up on your dues, please contact Treasurer Bob Donaldson directly at obcbobd@gmail.com; and Bob, please notify me if & when this is done. The voting members of the AC will make the decision to re-admit official. Tom Housley ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 03:04:23 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Anyone know Roberto Andrade? From: Patrick Prickett I recognize the name - but can't remember if he was on the good guy or bad guy list. Has anyone traded or dealt with him before? ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:01:24 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: National pictures From: larrygers@aol.com No one reported Rocky was at the swap giving free autographs. Nice picture of Nick's left eye. ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:46:58 -0400 To: larrygers@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National pictures From: Andy Huntoon Yeah, Rocky was cool. He just showed up. Turns out he's a big collector. =9C Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:01 AM, larrygers@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > No one reported Rocky was at the swap giving free autographs. > Nice picture of Nick's left eye. ================= To: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:57:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: "George Vrechek" The Set Collectors Recognition Level rules committee has taken time out from their busy schedule of viewing Olympic events (all of which seem to involve some type of sport, although synchronized swimming is being scrutinized by the committee to verify its sportiness.) The committee has read the desperate pleas to include non-sports cards in the counting. The committee is moved by such appeals and is somewhat flattered that members have paid any attention at all to the committee's rules. The desired effect of the recognition levels, to give a boost to the idea of expanding collections, seems to have taken hold. True, Jefferson Burdick collected any type of ephemera including postcards. Only 30,000 of his 300,000 cards were sports cards. The rest of the 270,000 items must be considered "non-sports." To recognize collectors for their non-sports cards would logically mean adding not just 5,000 more cards to the goals but something more proportional to the total population of non-sports cards, like having to get to 350,000 cards instead of 35,000 (9 to 1, non-sports vs sports.) This has been very trying for the committee to even consider such a lofty goal and the committee requests an additional all all-expense paid vacation to even ponder the various alternatives. Such alternatives might be a separate wing to the recognition level page to recognize OBC non-sports card collectors. Their pictures, of course, would be much smaller. George Vrechek, on behalf of the committee ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 10:03:13 -0400 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: Yahoo I think what I am hearing here is the better the vacation location, the better the chance of the inclusion of non-sports to the set collectors recognition Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2016, at 09:57, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > The Set Collectors Recognition Level rules committee has taken time out from their busy schedule of viewing Olympic events (all of which seem to involve some type of sport, although synchronized swimming is being scrutinized by the committee to verify its sportiness.) The committee has read the desperate pleas to include non-sports cards in the counting. The committee ismoved by such appeals and is somewhat flattered that members have paid anyattention at all to the committee=E2=99s rules. > The desired effect of the recognition levels, to give a boost to the ideaof expanding collections, seems to have taken hold. > True, Jefferson Burdick collected any type of ephemera including postcards. Only 30,000 of his 300,000 cards were sports cards. The rest of the 270,000 items must be considered =E2=9Cnon-sports.=E2=9D To recognize collectors for their non-sports cards would logically mean adding not just 5,000 more cards to the goals but something more proportional to the total population of non-sports cards, like having to get to 350,000 cards instead of35,000 (9 to 1, non-sports vs sports.) > This has been very trying for the committee to even consider such a loftygoal and the committee requests an additional all all-expense paid vacation to even ponder the various alternatives. Such alternatives might be a separate wing to the recognition level page to recognize OBC non-sports card collectors. Their pictures, of course, would be much smaller. > George Vrechek, on behalf of the committee ================= To: "larrygers@aol.com" , Andy Huntoon Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:07:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National pictures From: Taylor Schock Actually, not completely beyond the realm of possibility as I literally bumped into Frank Stallone at the Convention Center. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:46 AM To: larrygers@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National pictures Yeah, Rocky was cool. He just showed up. Turns out he's a big collector. ?? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:01 AM, larrygers@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] No one reported Rocky was at the swap giving free autographs. Nice picture of Nick's left eye. ================= Date: 18 Aug 2016 10:57:57 -0700 To: Subject: Regarding dues & my message about Art Wainwright From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:55:44 -0500 To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: OBC Nick P If the better the vacation the more likely it is to be considered into the levels.....may I suggest Embarrass, Minnesota.....Perhaps this coming January. For those who don't know where this is.....go to the southwestern tip of Lake Superior-Duluth Minnesota.....then drive due north 90 minutes.....directly towards Canada. Embarrass is regarded as the coldest place in the continental US, and some parts of Alaska. Nick Pelletier > On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I think what I am hearing here is the better the vacation location, the better the chance of the inclusion of non-sports to the set collectors recognition > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 18, 2016, at 09:57, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> The Set Collectors Recognition Level rules committee has taken time out from their busy schedule of viewing Olympic events (all of which seem to involve some type of sport, although synchronized swimming is being scrutinized by the committee to verify its sportiness.) The committee has read the desperate pleas to include non-sports cards in the counting. The committee is moved by such appeals and is somewhat flattered that members have paid any attention at all to the committee=E2=99s rules. >> The desired effect of the recognition levels, to give a boost to the idea of expanding collections, seems to have taken hold. >> True, Jefferson Burdick collected any type of ephemera including postcards. Only 30,000 of his 300,000 cards were sports cards. The rest of the 270,000 items must be considered =E2=9Cnon-sports.=E2=9D To recognize collectors for their non-sports cards would logically mean adding not just 5,000 more cards to the goals but something more proportional to the total population of non-sports cards, like having to get to 350,000 cards instead of 35,000 (9 to 1, non-sports vs sports.) >> This has been very trying for the committee to even consider such a lofty goal and the committee requests an additional all all-expense paid vacation to even ponder the various alternatives. Such alternatives might be a separate wing to the recognition level page to recognize OBC non-sports card collectors. Their pictures, of course, would be much smaller. >> George Vrechek, on behalf of the committee ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:59:02 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I will offer an all expense paid trip aboard the free bus to the Navy Pier next year in Chicago, if the rules committee will allow variations to count. A set ain't complete unless its a MASTER and those gray/white backsare cards unto themselves! A green tint is not just another number :-)... I don't know how Burdick felt about variations, or if they were even a thought back then. But I am SURE he would have collected them! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/18/2016 10:03:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I think what I am hearing here is the better the vacation location, the better the chance of the inclusion of non-sports to the set collectors recognition level. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2016, at 09:57, 'George Vrechek' _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: The Set Collectors Recognition Level rules committee has taken time out from their busy schedule of viewing Olympic events (all of which seem to involve some type of sport, although synchronized swimming is being scrutinized by the committee to verify its sportiness.) The committee has read the desperate pleas to include non-sports cards in the counting. The committeeis moved by such appeals and is somewhat flattered that members have paid any attention at all to the committee=E2=99s rules. The desired effect of the recognition levels, to give a boost to the idea of expanding collections, seems to have taken hold. True, Jefferson Burdick collected any type of ephemera including postcards. Only 30,000 of his 300,000 cards were sports cards. The rest ofthe 270,000 items must be considered =E2=9Cnon-sports.=E2=9D To recognizecollectors their non-sports cards would logically mean adding not just 5,000 more cards the goals but something more proportional to the total population of non-sports cards, like having to get to 350,000 cards instead of 35,000 (9to non-sports vs sports.) This has been very trying for the committee to even consider such a lofty goal and the committee requests an additional all all-expense paid vacation to even ponder the various alternatives. Such alternatives might be a separate wing to the recognition level page to recognize OBC non-sports card collectors. Their pictures, of course, would be much smaller. George Vrechek, on behalf of the committee ================= To: Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:01:01 -0500 Subject: Non-sports numbers? From: "George Vrechek" Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to come up with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports I know little about non-sports - other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. How many vintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings. I'll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sports cards. Jefferson Burdick had about 270,000. What do you have just counting singles prior to 1981. I would define non-sports as anything you hang onto that looks like a trading card but isn't a sports card, but I'm sure we can get much more complicated than that. George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:00:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National pictures From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en And I ran into the Hulk Hogan imposter in the men's room.... almost the same thing LOL... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/18/2016 10:09:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Actually, not completely beyond the realm of possibility as I literally bumped into Frank Stallone at the Convention Center. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:46 AM To: larrygers@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: National pictures Yeah, Rocky was cool. He just showed up. Turns out he's a big collector. =9C Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:01 AM, _larrygers@aol.com_ (mailto:larrygers@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: No one reported Rocky was at the swap giving free autographs. Nice picture of Nick's left eye. ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:38:02 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? From: Ken M I have amassed close to a whopping 79 non-sports cards (not including * and ** variations). A detailed description of my hoard is as follows: 1977 Topps Star Wars blue series of 66 plus 11 stickers - and two Man on the Moon cards Sal sent me that I refuse to list. I'm willing to sacrifice these and add a bonus to anyone who wants to enrich their non-sports collection (it's trending, you know) by starting the set. Let me know! Ken M - I did complete a set of lighthouses (1912 T59 I think), but gave the set to Mom, as she and Dad had visited a few of them in the northeast years ago. The last card I needed was Barnegat Light - which I passed (the exit) going to and from The National this year reminding me of that set. Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Aug 18, 2016 8:00 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to come up with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports cards. I know little about non-sports – other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. How many vintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings. I’ll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sports cards. Jefferson Burdick had about 270,000. What do you have just counting singles prior to 1981. I would define non-sports as anything you hang onto that looks like a trading card but isn’t a sports card, but I’m sure we can get much more complicated than that.George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 20:31:45 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: OBC Nick P A free bus....isn't it only about a one mile ride from George to the pier? Shameless plug to count the same card twice or three or four times! A no expenses paid trip to extreme northern Minnesota, in the dead of winter, on the cold side of the hill, near the worlds biggest source of fresh water doesn't do it for you? It would be a great place to sit inside and contemplate cards. You could also go outside-wearing a coat-and see all the reasons to, or not to, make changes. Nick Pelletier > On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:59 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I will offer an all expense paid trip aboard the free bus to the Navy Pier next year in Chicago, if the rules committee will allow variations to count. A set ain't complete unless its a MASTER and those gray/white backs arecards unto themselves! A green tint is not just another number :-)... > I don't know how Burdick felt about variations, or if they were even a thought back then. But I am SURE he would have collected them! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 8/18/2016 10:03:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > I think what I am hearing here is the better the vacation location, the better the chance of the inclusion of non-sports to the set collectors recognition > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 18, 2016, at 09:57, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> The Set Collectors Recognition Level rules committee has taken time out from their busy schedule of viewing Olympic events (all of which seem to involve some type of sport, although synchronized swimming is being scrutinized by the committee to verify its sportiness.) The committee has read the desperate pleas to include non-sports cards in the counting. The committee is moved by such appeals and is somewhat flattered that members have paid any attention at all to the committee=E2=99s rules. >> The desired effect of the recognition levels, to give a boost to the idea of expanding collections, seems to have taken hold. >> True, Jefferson Burdick collected any type of ephemera including postcards. Only 30,000 of his 300,000 cards were sports cards. The rest of the 270,000 items must be considered =E2=9Cnon-sports.=E2=9D To recognize collectors for their non-sports cards would logically mean adding not just 5,000 more cards to the goals but something more proportional to the total population of non-sports cards, like having to get to 350,000 cards instead of 35,000 (9 to 1, non-sports vs sports.) >> This has been very trying for the committee to even consider such a lofty goal and the committee requests an additional all all-expense paid vacation to even ponder the various alternatives. Such alternatives might be a separate wing to the recognition level page to recognize OBC non-sports card collectors. Their pictures, of course, would be much smaller. >> George Vrechek, on behalf of the committee ================= Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 18:46:19 -0700 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? From: Stamper I have 2,625 in Vintage Non Sports cards. John Stamper On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:01 PM, "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to come up with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports cards. > I know little about non-sports =E2=93 other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. How many vintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings. > I=E2=99ll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sports cards. Jefferson Burdick had about 270,000. What do you have just counting singles prior to 1981. I would define non-sports as anything you hang onto that looks like a trading card but isn=E2=99t a sports card, but I=E2=99m sure we can get much more complicated than that. > George Vrechek ================= To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" , OBC Nick P Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:47:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels From: Taylor Schock You could even practice for the Winter Olympics Synchronized Ice Fishing team. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:31 PM To: ChicoD1@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Set Collectors Recognition Levels A free bus....isn't it only about a one mile ride from George to the pier? Shameless plug to count the same card twice or three or four times! A no expenses paid trip to extreme northern Minnesota, in the dead of winter, on the cold side of the hill, near the worlds biggest source of fresh water doesn't do it for you? It would be a great place to sit inside and contemplate cards. You could also go outside-wearing a coat-and see all the reasons to, or not to, make changes. Nick Pelletier On Aug 18, 2016, at 6:59 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I will offer an all expense paid trip aboard the free bus to the Navy Pier next year in Chicago, if the rules committee will allow variations to count. A set ain't complete unless its a MASTER and those gray/white backs are cards unto themselves! A green tint is not just another number :-)... I don't know how Burdick felt about variations, or if they were even a thought back then. But I am SURE he would have collected them! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/18/2016 10:03:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com I think what I am hearing here is the better the vacation location, the better the chance of the inclusion of non-sports to the set collectors recognition Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2016, at 09:57, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] > The Set Collectors Recognition Level rules committee has taken time out from their busy schedule of viewing Olympic events (all of which seem to involve some type of sport, although synchronized swimming is being scrutinized by the committee to verify its sportiness.) The committee has read the desperate pleas to include non-sports cards in the counting. The committee is moved by such appeals and is somewhat flattered that members have paid any attention at all to the committee=92s rules. The desired effect of the recognition levels, to give a boost to the idea of expanding collections, seems to have taken hold. True, Jefferson Burdick collected any type of ephemera including postcards.Only 30,000 of his 300,000 cards were sports cards. The rest of the 270,000 items must be considered =93non-sports.=94 To recognize collectors for their non-sports cards would logically mean adding not just 5,000 more cards to the goals but something more proportional to the total population of non-sports cards, like having to get to 350,000 cards instead of 35,000 (9 to 1, non-sports vs sports.) This has been very trying for the committee to even consider such a lofty goal and the committee requests an additional all all-expense paid vacation to even ponder the various alternatives. Such alternatives might be a separate wing to the recognition level page to recognize OBC non-sports card collectors. Their pictures, of course, would be much smaller. George Vrechek, on behalf of the committee ================= To: George Vrechek , Stamper Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:55:05 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? From: Taylor Schock My quick, rough estimate is about 8,000 Non Sports cards. Assuming drag racing, hot rods, et al are 'not' sports. Otherwise I have more sports cards than I thought. :D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:46 PM To: George Vrechek Cc: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? I have 2,625 in Vintage Non Sports cards. John Stamper On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:01 PM, "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to come up with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports cards. I know little about non-sports - other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. How manyvintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings. I'll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sports cards. Jefferson Burdickhad about 270,000. What do you have just counting singles prior to 1981. Iwould define non-sports as anything you hang onto that looks like a trading card but isn't a sports card, but I'm sure we can get much more complicated than that. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 07:25:28 -0400 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? From: Joel Freedman George, my non sports cards total, 2623 On Aug 18, 2016, at 9:55 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > My quick, rough estimate is about 8,000 Non Sports cards. Assuming drag racing, hot rods, et al are 'not' sports. Otherwise I have more sports cardsthan I thought. :D > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Stamperholidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:46 PM > To: George Vrechek > Cc: > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? > I have 2,625 in Vintage Non Sports cards. > John Stamper > On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:01 PM, "'George Vrechek'vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to come up with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports cards. >> I know little about non-sports =96 other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. Howmany vintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings. >> I=92ll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sports cards. Jefferson Burdick had about 270,000. What do you have just counting singles prior to 1981. I would define non-sports as anything you hang onto that looks like a trading card but isn=92t a sports card, but I=92m sure we can get much more complicated than that. >> George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:53:50 -0500 (CDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com Subject: scans of the 1963 Mantle in the Rittenberg auction From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Some of you asked for scans of this card. The 16 on his cheek should have been part of the auction description, my apologies. The card is full sized and nicely centered, even though that doesn't come across in the scans. peter mead ================= Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 10:02:46 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Set Collector Recognition Levels From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I have spent the past three hours counting my 1980 and older non-sports cards and I count 14,446 different cards. Added to my sports card count of 41,318 this would push my total to 55,764 and bump me into the =E2=9CLionel Carter Level=E2=9D if adjustments are made to the rules. ================= To: OBC Ramblings , George Vrechek Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:24:22 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? From: JAY TYSVER Real rough estimate but I'm guessing its around 4000. I think the difference between ours and Burdick's collection is that he collected within his day and we collect what is in our day. He had the advantage of collecting when things were basically thrown away by others. Nowadaysto complete a collection similar to his would value into the millions. To expect anyone to collect even a tenth of that could equal the mortgage on ahouse. It also seems that many of us collect non-sports as a way to enhance our collection and expand beyond the basic four sports collections. I'd have to think that is a path which is honored in some manner of distinction but not necessarily lumped in with sports cards. To honor it in OBC may not be so much of a quantity distinction (such as insports) but more of a quality distinction. In other words, does one have sets from various decades. Is one seeking a type set collection? I've come into the game late on non-sports but I've made up a lot of ground. I would think a good starting point would be to quantify the total numberof complete sets one has. I have at least 33 and if you count each Wacky Package series as complete sets at least 40 or more. But I don't think that is anywhere near something to brag about. I think it would be more fair to list these separately by completed sets. There could be a 50-100 completed sets marker called a novice, a 100-250 completed sets (semi-pro), a 250-500 completed sets (professional) and a 500 or more completed sets (expert). I'd also think that there should be a typeset hero collection which goes beyond just the collectors recognition collection. I have quantity in my collection, but a lot of that is built upon collecting as much as I can from O-Pee-Chee and Topps and a other sundries surrounding their era. Others have awesome typeset collections. I don't. I would think that both a sports and non-sports typeset heroes recognition would accomplish two things. A) it would encourage people to expand their collections B) it would recognize those whose collections are worthy I also think it is worth recognizing a person achieving all levels of distinction, typeset, sports and non-sports could be claimed some type of OBC expert. Lastly, the vintage moniker we place on sports cards is not necessarily thesame for non-sports cards. The glut of baseball cards in the mid to late 1980s was exclusive to sports cards but not non-sports cards. Try finding a complete set of Garbage Pail Kids first series for less than $200. As well,Pac Man and Mrs. Pac Man cards are quite hard to find in complete sets. There are quite a few others as well which are hard to find in the 1980s non-sports cards. There is no value difference between a complete 1982 Donruss Mash set and other sets of the late 1970s. In other words, the line of distinction on non-sports probably is different than it is in sports. I would say the line of distinction would be 1986 as that covered the first six series of GPK and the MTV spawned sets. This is thirty years ago and there is aunique cultural distinction for cards of those days as well as a growing desire to capture that time. The only reason I have 1980s non-sports cards listed on my wantlist is because they so strongly represent the culture of the times. The MTV spawned sets of Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson, Max Headroom and Duran Duran are the 1980s equivalence of the Western and Cowboy cards of the 1930s through 1950s. Collecting a culture should be encouraged. On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:01 PM, "'George Vrechek'vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to comeup with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports cards.I know little about non-sports =96 other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. Howmany vintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings.I=92ll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sportscards. Jefferson Burdick had about 270,000. What do you have just countingsingles prior to 1981. I would define non-sports as anything you hang ontothat looks like a trading card but isn=92t a sports card, but I=92m sure we can get much more complicated than that.George Vrechek ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 17:01:34 +0000 Subject: The T206 Evers in the Rittenberg Auction From: Mac Wubben Just in case anybody wanted to know what it looked like... ================= Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:39:55 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The national long ramble and thanks and thanks and thanks From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en First, thank you everyone. Thank you very much. Saturday, after the swap, I drove for a couple hours. Every other day of our trip I drove from 400 to 760 miles. We saw a bunch of things for about 10 minutes each. Went from Fresno to the coast at San Francisco to the Coast at Atlantic City and them came back. Many interstates, many scaring windy roads that you should not drive while sleepy, which I always was. 5 Hall of Fames (Buckaroo Hall of Fame in Winnemucca Nevada because they have many Hall of fames in this country and that is why they call me Mr. Excitement). presidential gravesites and many others including Jim Thorpe, some Giants baseball players, Wild Bill Hickock, Evel Knievel, Man O War, Buffalo Bill and some guy named Potato Creek Johhny. Alison said it seemed like the biggest ball of twine trip. So, we went to the biggest ball of twine in Cawker City Kansas. Niagara Falls, Mt Rushmore, Devils Tower, and a Bordello museum in Wallace Idaho. Won money in Atlantic City, lost money in Reno. Weirdest trip ever. No ball games. But drove through many big cities and drove by ballparks. Probably kind of like having a baby or running a marathon. Never did either, but, not a ton of fun while it is happening, but to have done it. It was great. I wanted a destination on this cross-country trip and the National and meeting you guys was it. I will make sure to send retro national handshakes to all of you. I hope that is ok. Thanks Sal. Thanks for getting us into the national cheap and the discount on parking. And thanks for the eight cards from Topps 1960 and the couple from 1962. And thanks for the Honus Wagner T206. I have no good reason to think it is not authentic. Thanks Mac. It was really nice to meet you after our many transactions in which you supply me with NY Giants cards. Thanks for the 1967 and 1968 Topps leaders cards with McCovey and Mays. The 71 Kellogg Mays and a couple other swell cards. And congratulations on the baby showing up around Christmas. I am very happy for you guys. Thanks Matt. Goodness, thanks for the beer at the swap. I think that was your beer. Thanks. And thanks for the 1961 Fleer cards. It was very nice to meet you. Thanks Nick. Thanks for all the 1962 cards. Al Kaline and a Babe Ruth special card. And thanks for that big box. You seemed happy that someone would take it. There were some shaky things in there but I found some good cards I needed and a couple upgrades. And some things that were a little confusing. I am getting a good kick out of it all. Thanks Joel. Thanks for the 1967 Joe Nuxhall and the couple of 1968s. And thanks for getting those serial number and other obscure of Giants Monte Irvin and Willie Mays to me. Thanks Ken H. Thanks for the Pacific Trading Baseball legends. I get a kick out of those retro cards. And thanks for the couple of 1991s. Thanks Taylor. High numbered cards. Tough to find and great to get. Thanks for the 4 from 1971 and the one from 1972. Thanks Ed. Thanks for the Shot of whatever that was. Nice toast. Thanks for that big ol box of newer SF Giants to split with Andy. I am half way through it and many I did not have. Nice of you to put that together. Thanks Someone. Someone threw a Brandon Crawford card at me or Alison at the swap. Never too many Giants. Thanks Andy. Thanks for the Helmar Bottle Caps. Cool Papa Bell and thanks for the Christy Mathewson. Thanks Kevin. Thanks for the three high numbered 1971s including Fresno=E2=99s own Dick Selma. It was very nice talking with you and your wife and I only got in a little trouble for the picture you took of my wife. =E2=9CI slept hours a night for a week and you let someone take a picture of me=E2=9D something like that. Thanks for being so friendly with us at the swap. Thanks Steve. Sorry to miss you. Thanks very much for the 1949 Bowman of Johnny Mize. Thanks Wes. Eight 1960 cards and a 1963. All pretty high numbers. Good job on that Willie Mays card you got. Thanks Chris. Thank you for a couple of high numbered 1970s and for the four cards from 1969 including Pete Rose. Very sharp cards. Thanks Jerry. Thanks for the really high number 1971s. Great to get these Thanks Jim. A 1970 Super of Willie McCovey and the 1960 Nu Card featuring Christy Mathewson. I didn=E2=99t have any 1960s. That was really nice ofyou. Thanks Ken M. Thanks for all the work you put into this. Thanks Spike. Thanks for the couple of 1955 Bowmans. And thanks for the 1940 Playball of Jumbo Brown. And, the batter UP cards of Hal Schumacher was my favorite card from the trip. Thanks a ton. Thanks Bob. Thanks for letting me sneak away with the high numbered 1971. Hey Mike. Nice to see you again. Glad you liked the shirts and thanks for what you gave me in Fresno. You, me and Evel Knievel are explorers. I only attended the National for the one day and for the swap. All I brought was some goofy books and magazines. I am glad a few found something take away. I was all too rushed and kind of confused and out of it. I think I got a beer from Bob. I think Wayne was there. I did not meet him. I think I got a RC Cola can from Richard. I dipped in a little to a couple of boxes but did not get through many. I sure want to thank everyone. And sure do not want to leave someone out. If anyone has some insight to who or what I might be confused about please please let me know. Please let me know if I missed something and someone. I think I did. Thanks again everyone. Retro handshakes on the way over the next month. Randy Welk ================= To: "'JAY TYSVER'" , Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 13:32:40 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? From: "Matt Yudt" Great post Jay and love the discussion - enjoyable to read about others collections and really see a big diversity in non sports collections. I have a handful of non-sports, but just like non-baseball cards for me, haven't created any lists yet until I'm serious to pursue specific things. I always like to hear the tallies of others and even though the website only lists totals, usually guys break them down by sports when alerting 'the committee' or the community. I think we should keep the #'s and levels where they are for sports cards only, but it would be cool to see a non sports recognition section on the webpage - could easily add a box/page for that, but good luck coming up with the ranges! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JAY TYSVER JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:24 AM To: OBC Ramblings ; George Vrechek Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports numbers? Real rough estimate but I'm guessing its around 4000. I think the difference between ours and Burdick's collection is that he collected within his day and we collect what is in our day. He had the advantage of collecting when things were basically thrown away by others. Nowadays to complete a collection similar to his would value into the millions. To expect anyone to collect even a tenth of that could equal the mortgage on a house. It also seems that many of us collect non-sports as a way to enhance our collection and expand beyond the basic four sports collections. I'd have to think that is a path which is honored in some manner of distinction but not necessarily lumped in with sports cards. To honor it in OBC may not be so much of a quantity distinction (such as in sports) but more of a quality distinction. In other words, does one have sets from various decades. Is one seeking a type set collection? I've come into the game late on non-sports but I've made up a lot of ground. I would think a good starting point would be to quantify the total number of complete sets one has. I have at least 33 and if you count each Wacky Package series as complete sets at least 40 or more. But I don't think that is anywhere near something to brag about. I think it would be more fair to list these separately by completed sets. There could be a 50-100 completed sets marker called a novice, a 100-250 completed sets (semi-pro), a 250-500 completed sets (professional) and a 500 or more completed sets (expert). I'd also think that there should be a typeset hero collection which goes beyond just the collectors recognition collection. I have quantity in my collection, but a lot of that is built upon collecting as much as I can from O-Pee-Chee and Topps and a other sundries surrounding their era. Others have awesome typeset collections. I don't. I would think that both a sports and non-sports typeset heroes recognition would accomplish two things. A) it would encourage people to expand their collections B) it would recognize those whose collections are worthy I also think it is worth recognizing a person achieving all levels of distinction, typeset, sports and non-sports could be claimed some type of OBC expert. Lastly, the vintage moniker we place on sports cards is not necessarily the same for non-sports cards. The glut of baseball cards in the mid to late 1980s was exclusive to sports cards but not non-sports cards. Try finding a complete set of Garbage Pail Kids first series for less than $200. As well, Pac Man and Mrs. Pac Man cards are quite hard to find in complete sets. There are quite a few others as well which are hard to find in the 1980s non-sports cards. There is no value difference between a complete 1982 Donruss Mash set and other sets of the late 1970s. In other words, the line of distinction on non-sports probably is different than it is in sports. I would say the line of distinction would be 1986 as that covered the first six series of GPK and the MTV spawned sets. This is thirty years ago and there is a unique cultural distinction for cards of those days as well as a growing desire to capture that time. The only reason I have 1980s non-sports cards listed on my wantlist is because they so strongly represent the culture of the times. The MTV spawned sets of Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson, Max Headroom and Duran Duran are the 1980s equivalence of the Western and Cowboy cards of the 1930s through 1950s. Collecting a culture should be encouraged. On Aug 18, 2016, at 5:01 PM, "'George Vrechek'vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > wrote: Now you guys have got me curious. I went through a lot of catalogs to come up with the total of vintage sports cards and the achievable numbers by sport in order to have some basis for the set collector levels for sports I know little about non-sports - other than subscribing to The Wrapper. To come up with some logical basis for non-sports cards, help me out. How many vintage, single non-sports cards do some of you have? If you want to send me the numbers I can do a spreadsheet with ranges and averages, or just respond on Ramblings. I'll start. I have whopping 653 vintage non-sports cards. Jefferson Burdick had about 270,000. What do you have just counting singles prior to 1981. I would define non-sports as anything you hang onto that looks like a trading card but isn't a sports card, but I'm sure we can get much more complicated than that. George Vrechek ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 23:53:19 +0000 Subject: Kaline RC scan (Rittenberg auction) From: Taylor Schock Here's a requested scan of the Kaline RC for the auction. ================= Date: 19 Aug 2016 17:27:39 -0700 To: Subject: Frank Thomas meet up and Ramble From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 20:32:21 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction Friday night update From: Aaron Shirley It's officially the weekend! Time to bid, bid, bid! Still several lots without The spreadsheet is a little long, and the Yahoo servers don't handle it very well. So you can check out the full auction spreadsheet, with all 142 lots, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Also, I've confirmed today that lots can be paid for via PayPal, sent to Bob Donaldson at: treasurer AT oldbaseball DOT com ... and then one check will be cut for the total amount. LOT #DESCRIPTION (includes all bids through Friday 9pm Eastern)BIDBIDDERDONORLOT 11909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$31SchockCookLOT 21909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture)$34GrayWubbenLOT 31910 T218 lot of 3: 48, 60, and 100$15CraigWagnerLOT 41911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$63CraigFittsLOT 51912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie$9DonaldsonWubbenLOT 61919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons$15DonaldsonFittsLOT 71921 Exhibit Powell fair$11DonaldsonWubbenLOT 81933 Goudey lot of 2 with trimmed bottom border and album pasted backs$5HenthornMoletaLOT 91933 Goudey lot of 4 with trimmed bottom border$10MartensMoletaLOT 101933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape$11SchockReedLOT 111933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$36PelletierShepardLOT 121936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) HalTroskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$12HutchinsonElwellLOT 131938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape$11SchockReedLOT 141941 Play Ball #41 Frankie Hayes, Philadelphia Athletics$6GersbachMoletaLOT 151947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - randomunless you have a wantlist$12FittsGliddenLOT 161947-66 Exhibit starter lot2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$12FittsGliddenLOT 171947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$12FittsGliddenLOT 181947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$4MartensAshtonLOT 191949 Bowman #98 Phil Rizzuto - rounded corners, one good crease, some surface wear - call it fair - not road kill$30MeadPrickettLOT 201950 Bowman #203 Danny Murtaugh, Pirates. Paper loss at top$4Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 211950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$16CorvelloDeliaLOT 221951 Bowman #31 Roy Campanella$31YudtSchottLOT 231951 Bowman #32 Duke Snider$26YudtSchottLOT 241952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$40WubbenCookLOT 251953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$33Rumley-WellsGuruLOT 261953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$3Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 271954 Topps #201 Kaline RC - GD condition if not for 2 small punch holes andpinhole near top of card. Back is nicer than front.$31CookSchockLOT 281957Topps #18 Don Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and an ink blob, but presents nicely otherwise$21YudtMackLOT 291957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters (Berra/Mantle). F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$23LabsGuruLOT 301958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$14Rumley-WellsPelletierLOT 311958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White Sox VGEX 20.00 bv. Super nice, just o/c$1HenthornZentkovichLOT 321958 Topps #487 Mickey Mantle AS - about 85% of the card: bitten off top corner$5ShirleyMoletaLOT 331959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g$7LyonsWubbenLOT 341959 Topps #1 Ford Frick and 1965 Topps #1AVG leaders w/ Brooks Robinson (both well-loved)$5no bidsMoletaLOT 351959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10Rumley-WellsGlasserLOT 361959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G$6ShirleyHenthornLOT 371959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c$3GreenwoodHenthornLOT 381959 Topps #547 Jim Baxes - major creases$1ShirleyDelottLOT 391959 Topps #553 Orlando Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4HutchinsonRainsleyLOT 401959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$36CovelloRiceLOT 411959 Topps lot of 3 - HOFers w/ clipped corners: 155 Slaughter, 260 Wynn, 352 Roberts$5CovelloMoletaLOT 421959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$8CorvelloCodereLOT 431960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126 and 131$31TiptonMorgantiLOT 441960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$5ShirleyPillionLOT 451960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4$10GlasserTriplerLOT 461961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19 Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5CraigHuntoonLOT 471961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv$3CovelloZentkovichLOT 481961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1ShirleyElwellLOT 491961 Topps Stamp Album, empty, center page loose from the staples, PLUS 75 loose stamps taken out of albums$25MeadLyonsLOT 501961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX)$19SanknerTriplerLOT 511961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10CraigCookLOT 521961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex$5MeadCookLOT 531961-62 Post lot of 8 diff. beaters, including Killebrew$7GlasserMoletaLOT 541962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$11MillerCookLOT 551962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$8CorvelloShirleyLOT 561962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards$13GalbreathFittsLOT 571962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$7ShirleyCodereLOT 581962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$2MoletaGuruLOT 591963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph...$30D'AngeloTaylorLOT 601963 Topps #200 MickeyMantle, "16" written on cheek$45Rumley-WellsMeadLOT 611964 Topps #136 Koufax World Series$3GalbreathRainsleyLOT 621964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$21DahmsGliddenLOT 631964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4GlasserRainsleyLOT 641964 Topps lot, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$31GalbreathRiceLOT 651964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor$5TriplerWubbenLOT 661965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5no bidsCookLOT 671965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$7AshtonCookLOT 681965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 691966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$1AshtonShirleyLOT 701966 Topps #486 Tommy John, VG$4ShirleyHenthornLOT 711967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks, P/F with creasing$2Rumley-WellsHenthornLOT 721967 Topps lot of 6 different pack fresh MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$6no bidsMoletaLOT 731967-69 lot of 5 HOF Tiptons: 67T Kaline #30, 68T Perry #85, 68T Game Brooks #9, 69T Banks #20, 69T B.Williams #450$3HenthornMoletaLOT 741968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12ElliottAshtonLOT 751968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$5HenthornAshtonLOT 761968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$2ShirleyElwellLOT 771968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better$12CovelloCookLOT 781969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$1ShirleyDelottLOT 791969 Topps Deckle lot of 7 different w/ Aparicio$4no bidsMoletaLOT 801969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$11GrayGuruLOT 811969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$5MeadGrayLOT 821969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$10no bidsCookLOT 831970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5no bidsPillionLOT 841970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$10TriplerValacakLOT 851970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$5HenthornAshtonLOT 861970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv$3ElliottZentkovichLOT 871970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$1ShirleyElwellLOT 881970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$1ShirleyDelottLOT 891970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$100no bidsCookLOT 901971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$11SchockValacakLOT 911971 Topps #26 BlylevenRC, EX$4AshtonHenthornLOT 921971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudge on top border$7Rumley-WellsHenthornLOT 931971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13, Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease)$5no bidsHenthornLOT 941971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+$2no bidsHenthornLOT 951971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$7CovelloPelletierLOT 961971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners$10no bidsFreedmanLOT 971972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$8TriplerValacakLOT 981972 Topps #79 Fisk/Cooper RC, G$4ShirleyHenthornLOT 991973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$5MeadGrayLOT 1001973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satch Paige, F.Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold out of Roberto Clemente$126ThayerMorganLOT 1011973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookie gvg$5no bidsCookLOT 1021973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+$2no bidsHenthornLOT 1031973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G$3MoletaHenthornLOT1041973 Topps lot of 20 different Tiptons, guaranteed creases and a coupleHOFers$2Rumley-WellsMoletaLOT 1051973 Topps lot of 5 different MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$5no bidsMoletaLOT 1061974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$10ZentkovichGrayLOT 1071974 Topps starter lot, 160 cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary$5ZentkovichHutchinsonLOT 1081974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX$2no bidsHenthornLOT 1091975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition$10AshtonGotoLOT 1101975 Topps #540 Lou Brock, EX or better$2ShirleyGotoLOT 1111975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG$3no bidsHenthornLOT 1121975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$8ZentkovichGrayLOT 1131975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs$13MillerYudtLOT 1141975Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$22MillerTysverLOT 1151975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539 539 612$1HenthornElwellLOT 1161975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$4ZentkovichShirleyLOT 1171976 Hostess complete set of 150$56GalbreathGliddenLOT 1181976 SSPC complete set of 630$36PelletierGliddenLOT 1191976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5no bidsCookLOT 1201976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCookLOT 1211976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33, 1978 #13-14-15,1979 #43-44-45$6CraigCookLOT 1221977 Topps complete set from vending case$75ThayerCipraLOT 1231977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+$5ZentkovichHenthornLOT 1241978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, nocrease$10AshtonFreedmanLOT 1251978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCookLOT 12625 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards$51MorganFittsLOT 127Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card$10WubbenFittsLOT 128Baseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$5AshtonMeadLOT 129BOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloLOT 130BOOK: Classic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$10MorganMeadLOT 131BOOK: Glory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Toldby the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4no bidsElwellLOT 132BOOK: Great Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall of the 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10MeadD'AngeloLOT 133BOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloLOT 134BOOK: One of a Kind: The Gene Conley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10LabsGalbreathLOT 135BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts$11HenthornFittsLOT 136BOOK: Touching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10MorganGalbreathLOT 137UV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM)$2CraigZentkovichLOT 138UV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards.$5no bidsSanknerLOT 139UV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present$5AshtonZentkovichLOT 140UV: 75cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present$1AshtonZentkovichLOT 141UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels$10no bidsCodereLOT 999ONE HEARTY HIGH FIVE FOR THE CAUSE (all bidders win this lot, so bid accordingly)$251 bidOBC ================= To: Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 22:03:55 -0500 Subject: Updated photo gallery and new library article added From: "George Vrechek" A few more photos have been added to the OBC member photo gallery. Also I posted an article on the library page that just ran in SCD: "The Hobby in the 1970s - Jeff Escue." Escue offered several insights I thought were pretty good. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 01:11:33 -0400 To: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collector Recognition Levels From: Andy Huntoon Best response to this thread I've seen yet. I'm just glad you didn't walk into a pole as you strolled down the street typing it on your phone Geno. =9C Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:27 PM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I spent my last three hours drinking beer, and I figure I had about six of > Two Uinta Detour Double IPAs > A Smuttynose Finestkind IPA > A Dale's Pale Ale > Two Aeronaut A Year With Dr. Nandu IPAs > Working my way across the Boston Commons now to get some sleep... > Take Care, > Geno > From: "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:02 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Collector Recognition Levels > I have spent the past three hours counting my 1980 and older non-sports cards and I count 14,446 different cards. > Added to my sports card count of 41,318 this would push my total to 55,764 and bump me into the =E2=9CLionel Carter Level=E2=9D if adjustmentsare made to the rules. > Guru ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 07:36:25 -0400 Subject: Card #'s for Auction Lots 40 & 65 From: Don Rice For those who asked and anyone else who might be interested, the specific cards numbers for the two 100-card lots in the Rittenberg auction, they are.... :-) Lot 40 - 1959 Topps Baseball Lot (100). 100 different cards, all gray backs. Most cards show “honest wear” and creasing, but no mutilation (no tears, writing, punch holes, etc.). Cards range from G to Ex, averaging abt VG-/VG. Lot includes numbers: 111 115 118 119 121 126 127 128 132 133 134 135 138 139 140 141 142 144 145 146 151 152 153 159 167 168 170 174 176 178 179 182 185 187 189 192 193 194 195 197 197 198 201 204 208 220 221 224 225 236 240 242 243 245 251 254 255 259 263 265 274 279 283 284 290 293 296 301 302 303 307 310-Aparicio 311 314 366 367 368 369 370 372 373 442 443 445 447 448 449 451 452 454 458 459 463-Kaline IA 466 469-Banks IA 474 477 483 487 488 Lot 65 - 1964 Topps Baseball Lot (100). 100 different cards. Most cards show “honest wear” and some creasing, but no mutilation (no tears, writing, punch holes, etc.). Cards range from G to Ex, averaging abt VG/Ex. Lot includes numbers: 16 17 18 19 23 24 27 28 29-Brock 30 31 32 33 39 41-Friendly Foes 42 45 46 47 48 52 53 54 56 58 60 61 62 63 65 66 68 71 72 75 76 77 82 83 84 85 87 89 90 92 93 95 97 98 102 107 109 110 117 123 133 135 140-WS 142 157 159 160 164 166 168 169 172 174 183 184 187 191 193 207 208 209 215 216 218 220 226 227 228 232 233 234 247-DeBusschere 249 253 255 257 259 269 270 271 272 273 274 277 281 ================= Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:27:53 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Set Collector Recognition Levels From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Geno said Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 18:54:46 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vintage non-sport From: richard dingman Cards going out this week. Hopefully I have found at least something for everyone. Most cards will have come from Sam Majors who donated them to OBCers. Richard D On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 12:10 PM richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I picked up a lot of vintage non-sport random cards donated by Sam Majors at the National. If you are interested in any before 1960, please send me your wantlists andI will see if I can target some hits. Also, if you collect match book covers for college sports or US navy, lmk. It will take me a couple weeks most likely to get through these as this is my busy time of the year and I am rarely even home weekends. Richard D __,_._I,Ipicked up a lot of ___ ================= Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 18:56:25 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: New "discovery" for 1936 Goudey master set and testing something for wantlist From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, not long ago, I kicked off the fool's errand of 1936 Goudey's Big League Gum master set. With only 25 players and few big names, it's not hard to finish the base set, but 25 balloons to 175+ if you want all the front/back flipping game combos. I don't know of a completed Master Set in the hobby, in part because a complete checklist's hard to assemble. Over on Net54, DaveW (Dave Weisner) put in a lot of time collecting front/back combo reports to arrive at 175 total. 25 different game backs spread across 25 player fronts, each getting 7 different backs with minor exceptions: stars Lefty Gomez and Chuck Klein had 8 backs each and Clydell Castleman and Buck Newsom had 6. http://www.net54baseball.com/showpost.php?p=1224447&postcount=29 The front/back totals seem key to understanding how Goudey planned and printed their two "flipping game" sets, 1935 Knot Hole League (red/blue/white) and 1936 Big League Gum (black-and-white). 1935 Knot Hole League used nearly identical fronts (numbered 1-24) for 24 different game backs. 1936 Big League Gum (unnumbered) reused all 24 of Knot Hole League's game backs and added a new one for 25 total. The 25 player photos are a re-cropped subset of their Wide Pen premiums. In updating my post-National wantlist, I found a "new" front/combo for Clydell Castleman that fills a gap of sorts, bumping him to the expected "7 backs" and locating a 7th player front for that back. It also bumps the Master Set to at least 176, a less round number than 175. Finding a new Castleman leaves open the possibility that Newsom also has an unreported back, though finding *that* would complicate 1936 sheet design with 177 total cards, a *really* unround number. Building on Dave's hard work, I've revised a version of the Master Set for my OBC wantlist. If you like that kind of thing, see the very bottom of this page: http://www.number5typecollection.com/p/vintage-wantlist.html Scroll left and right on the embedded Google sheet for my haves/needs as well as a better view on the Master set. "HAVE?" entries need a closer look because the backs can be confused for each other. If you have some 1936s and haven't considered its backs before, I hope this adds some color to what many consider a bland set. I'm also happy to trade or dealer scum for needs on my list. :-) P.S. How I learned to embed Google docs in Blogger: http://www.ictsteps.com/2013/05/how-to-embed-google-docs-into-blogger.html ================= To: Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 08:39:11 -0500 Subject: Re: New "discovery" for 1936 Goudey master set and testing something for From: "George Vrechek" Spike, Thanks for the interesting info on the variations in this set. I haven't kept up on Net54 discussions (I haven't quite figured out where to look), but I know David Weisner has made significant contributions. He checklisted the T218 back variations that was the foundation for my article about T218s and set me off collecting them all. OBCer Mark Talbot and others were also inspirational in going after the 630 ? backs to the T218s. Weisner seems satisfied not collecting everything himself. Verifying that something obscure exists seems enough for him. I might follow his lead on the 1936 Goudeys.for now. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:01:43 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New Year, New Goals - A National Ramble From: ChicoD1@aol.com Well, finally got through all the cards I got at the National (803 of them- not counting the box of UV I got with Kevin from Ed Schott, which had some cool stuff in it), and my OBC year starts anew. I have more set goals than ever. It looks like they should be doable goals, some tougher, some easier. If I succeed, I will have added 625 cards to the collection, so it may look easy, but not so much. The past year was my best ever for my collection. Over my almost 25 years in OBC, I have either completed or started sets I would only DREAM of even collecting (see 52 Topps). This group has filled me with so much knowledge and this helps me appreciate the cards I collect even more. Ken with variations, George with GREAT articles in the OBC Library, talking to Mac about tobacco issues (yes I have added the Brooklyn Superbas and Robins to my lists), Spike for actually making me start those pre-war lists. The National appeared to be a huge success. We had a bunch of rookies make the trek, and reading the stories makes me laugh, as I saw the expressions on their faces when they got into the show. The swap was probably the best room we ever had, and probably with the least amount of card activity. We spent most of our time stuffing our faces and talking cardboard and life with each other. Then the call to Steve made it feel like he was there. Funny, we get our biggest room ever and we don't have the Mike and Steve card shops set up! It's always great to meet up with OBCers I haven't met before and seeing old (and I do mean OLD) members. Only took 18 years between card shows to catch up with Wayne Delia. How come the guys who live in the same state see each other the least? I generally have to go out of state to see Kevin! I hope that everyone had a good time and we got you in to the show in a timely Sincere thanks to all of our dealers, who not only take good care of us, but also are great friends. Ron Estes, Kevin Savage and Pat, Jerry Nelson, JD, and of course our Dealer MVP Mike McCann, among others. My relationship with Mike is very, very good, so I think we might be able to secure more badges next year in Chicago. I have boxes of cards that Mike entrusted with me to get out to the group. Not much real old stuff, but now that my collection has been sorted out, I'll be attacking them in the coming weeks. I'll let you know what's available and ask you to point me to your lists for anything in particular. Mucho thanks to Ken for helping me with the shuttle bus and being the accountant. You have no idea how hard Ken worked behind the scenes. Everyone should send him a 1969 Topps Man on the Moon card (snicker!). As Met announce Howie Rose says, "PUT IT IN THE BOOKS!" I have a feeling next year in Chicago could be our biggest turnout ever! Thanks to everyone for their friendship and cardboard. I think I got everyone thanked (I am getting better at this LOL). Do you realize that NO ONE on the PLANET does what we do? 25 years of Cardboard Excellence! I still can't believe that 2017 with be 25 for me. And it all started by trading "Washington's" on Prodigy. We certainly have come a long way. We added like 12 people to the group last year, maybe we can add a few more. There is plenty of OBC material on Net54. Our newest members certainly added to us and have the OBC spirit. I think Trips Dad had as much fun as any of us! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:04:25 -0500 Subject: Non sports? "Final" call From: "George Vrechek" I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I've heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections range from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let me know if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey. George Vrechek ================= To: George Vrechek , OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:40:35 -0500 Subject: Non-sports! From: Aaron Shirley George and others My vintage non-sport collection is 922 cards. I would say over 90% of that is from the generosity of OBCers. A bit of a breakdown, for the sake of conversation: over 500 of those are Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Over 200 are Superman and Superman II. 886 deal with movies, 13 deal with TV, and 23 are everything else from presidents, World on Wheels, or KISS! As for pre-1960, I've only got THREE. Only SEVEN are from before I was bornin So yeah... novice level. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:04:25 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=92ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections range from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let meknow if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey.George Vrechek ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 10:46:44 -0500 Subject: wanted: BIDS From: Aaron Shirley HUGE update coming soon, but in the meantime, have you had a chance to check out the Rittenberg auction? Click here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing And bid it up, folks! Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:06:22 -0400 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call From: Yahoo I have about 600 non-sports cards. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:04, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=E2=99ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collectionsrange from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let me know if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:21:34 -0400 To: bucknutt2008@yahoo.com, vrechek@ameritech.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call From: Mike Glasser For one, I love the fact that non-sports is being considered at all as I have a rather large collection. I think that it should be a separate category as the mission of OBC is baseball. On that note, are we counting football cards in that tally as well? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: George Vrechek Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 12:06 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call I have about 600 non-sports cards. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:04, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=E2=99ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections range from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let me know if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:40:42 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] wanted: BIDS From: Mike Rumley-Wells Hey, Aaron, are there new lots on there? On Monday, August 22, 2016, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > HUGE update coming soon, but in the meantime, have you had a chance to > check out the Rittenberg auction? Click here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_ > qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing > And bid it up, folks! > Aaron Shirley ================= To: Peter Mead , George Vrechek Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:49:46 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call From: Aaron Shirley Oh yeah! All the cards from Linda! Add at LEAST another hundred for me. Still in the novice range though. To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:26:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call I have around 156 non-sports cards primarily Civil War News and two pre-warsets T51 colleges and T118 explorers. I probably have another 45 or so tea cards from the 1930s compliments of Linda Fitek (back in the day). So let's go with the grand total of 200. peter mead On 08/22/16, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=92ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections range from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let meknow if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey.George Vrechek ================= To: Mike Rumley-Wells Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:53:07 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Wantlist] wanted: BIDS From: Aaron Shirley Mike, and others Yes. Five lots (#142-146) from Sean McGowan. Neat stuff. That was part of the "HUGE UPDATE coming soon." Be on the lookout for that! From: mikerw7@gmail.com Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 12:40:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] wanted: BIDS To: uthminsta@hotmail.com CC: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Hey, Aaron, are there new lots on there? On Monday, August 22, 2016, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: HUGE update coming soon, but in the meantime, have you had a chance to check out the Rittenberg auction? Click here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing And bid it up, folks! Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:31:29 -0400 To: mikerw7@gmail.com, uthminsta@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] wanted: BIDS From: biggies@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rumley-Wells mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Aaron Shirley Cc: Wantlist ; OBC Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 22, 2016 12:48 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] wanted: BIDS Hey, Aaron, are there new lots on there? On Monday, August 22, 2016, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: HUGE update coming soon, but in the meantime, have you had a chance to check out the Rittenberg auction? Click here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing And bid it up, folks! Aaron Shirley ================= To: George Vrechek , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 15:00:11 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call From: JAY TYSVER I recall a conversation I had with a non-sports dealer. He stated that manycollectors focused on single areas- Westerns and Cowboys, Politicians, Actors/Actresses, Animals, Indians, Space or science fiction etc. Some of the verbage from the dealer you had posted I felt kind of hinted tothis This brings about a point which I feel is salient. In baseball, one can seek a Topps run, or a team collection, but this is limited in its nature. Many Non-sports collectors may not necessarily seek a Topps run, but seek moreof which is similar to a team collection- a focused collection. If that isa major manner of collecting, I can't see evaluating Sports card collectors who foray into Non-sports on a different criteria than a serious non-sports collector. It essentially would be asking us to evaluate our collectionswith "sports card collectors" glasses instead of with "non-sports card collectors" Suppose the goal from us as sports card collectors is to simply add numbers. That works if we want to show how many sports cards we have. Its achievable for sports because we can shoot for the Topps run in multiple sports. Part of our goal in showing our sports collections are strong is to show quantity. With sports cards in order to even have a wide array of cards, one would need a strong quantity. That implies there is a strong Topps run which has good value. However, if I were to place a value of my non-sports collection to another non-sports collector, they may not have much interest in it simply because it has quantity but not focus. Also to base something on the number of sets does not exactly speak the same as in the sports card world. As Mike Glasser just pointed out to me, there are some sets which consist of 2000 cards. That single set is probably a greater collection than my 50 sets or so from mostly the 1970s. I feel if we were to recognize non-sports collectors, we are asking the wrong I do believe strength of collection is valuable. Part of that could be quantity. As I look at some of the larger collections like Mike Glasser's or Guru's, they have larger quantity and they have larger collection of sets across a larger variety of eras than most of us. If we were to qualify our collections, I fear quantity just might not be the singular criteria. Through the lens we look through it may seem such. Butour lens is a different focus. Since many sets are almost impossible to complete, gauging set completion isn't necessarily a great gauge either. But, I do believe partial set completion is valuable. Having 35 of 50 cardson a set from the tobacco era is a quality set. Having 87 of 88 cards fromthe 1979 Hulk set is somewhat lacking. I know its nebulous but I believe the gauge to qualify a person's collection ought to be active sets across eras. An active set would be sets that areat minimum half way completed all the way up to fully completed. I believe a stronger gauge for non-sports would be as follows- (A cutoff date of 1980 is fine) - 2 active sets per decade (1910s-1970s) or 5,000 cards and 500 focused on a single subject- novice - 5 active sets per decade (1910s-1970s) or 10,000 cards and 1000 focused on a single subject- - semi pro - 10 active sets per decade (1910s-1970s) or 25,000 cards and 2000 focused on a single subject- - big leaguer - 25 active sets per decade (1910s-1970s) or 50,000 cards and 4000 focused on a single subject- - master collector I added the "and" prior to a focused collection because one could say they focused on TV shows or movies and adding 500 TV shows or movie cards can bedone with the Star Wars and Charlies Angels sets alone. Jay Tysver To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:04:25 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=92ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections range from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let meknow if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey.George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 21:32:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Never expected this... came up with 1122 give or take a card or 3. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/22/2016 12:26:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I have around 156 non-sports cards primarily Civil War News and two pre-war sets T51 colleges and T118 explorers. I probably have another 45 or tea cards from the 1930s compliments of Linda Fitek (back in the day). So let's go with the grand total of 200. peter mead On 08/22/16, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=E2=99ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Letme know if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 08:15:37 -0500 Subject: Non Sports Report From: "George Vrechek" While this thread is still trending up, as they say in the online publishing biz, I thought I'd report what I've learned so far. The purpose of my sticking a toe in these waters is to continue to encourage card collecting by getting some information into the light. On the Who Collects What page on our website, 46 of us (35%) report some type of collecting affliction involving non-sports cards. 22 OBCers (16% of us) reported their non-sports numbers. The total of all single, vintage non-sports cards owned was 63,720. In the 10,000 to 15,000 cards each ownership are three guys: Tipton, Rittenberg and Glasser who have about 57% of the total cards reported. In the 5,000 to 10,000 card "group" is Schock In the 2,500 to 5,000 card group are Tysver, Levine, Stamper and Freedman. The above folks have about 90% of the non-sports cards reported. 14 more guys had 1,200 cards or less, but their cards are well-liked Feedbacks include: 1. Even discussing non-sports is appreciated by some of our members, who acknowledge that the name of our group has something to do with 2. Let's keep the non-sports numbers separate from the sports card 3. Let's stay with 1980 as a vintage cutoff year. 4. No one seems to know how many vintage non-sports cards exist, especially when you (try to) count foreign cards. 5. Measuring progress for non-sports collectors may not be reduced to how many cards you have, but other measures can be complicated. I'll let the non-sport collectors I've mentioned figure out where to go from George Vrechek, your reporter ================= To: "'yahoogroups'" Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 07:12:03 -0700 Subject: I just KNEW this would happen sooner or later......................... From: "Grant Rainsley" http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-game-worn-Baltimore-Orioles-jersey-belonging-to Or Ebay item # 291851759404 ================= Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:38:53 -0500 To: Subject: Re: wanted: BIDS From: David Skoglund Anyone who doesn't win something cor even bid at all, can still just straight up donate, right? :) ================= To: 'yahoogroups' , Grant Rainsley Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 15:43:27 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I just KNEW this would happen sooner or From: Mac Wubben I pledge $50...only $800 more and you can get to that opening bid. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:12 AM To: 'yahoogroups' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I just KNEW this would happen sooner or later......................... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-game-worn-Baltimore-Orioles-jersey-belonging-to-Billy-Hoeft-w-LOA-/291851759404?hashitem43f3b86f2c:g:AVQAAOSwIgNXoYvU 1962 game worn Baltimore Orioles jersey belonging to Billy Hoeft w/LOA Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I just KNEW this would happen sooner or later......................... From: Joel Freedman make an offer!!! On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I pledge $50...only $800 more and you can get to that opening bid. > Mac > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:12 AM > *To:* 'yahoogroups' > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] I just KNEW this would happen sooner or > later......................... > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1962-game-worn-Baltimore-Orioles- > jersey-belonging-to-Billy-Hoeft-w-LOA-/291851759404?hashitem43f3b86f2c:g: > AVQAAOSwIgNXoYvU > 1962 game worn Baltimore Orioles jersey belonging to Billy Hoeft w/LOA > www.ebay.com > in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Game Used Memorabilia, Baseball-MLB > Or Ebay item # 291851759404 > Grant ================= Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 12:17:33 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: wanted: BIDS From: Ken M David,  There is a "lot 999" that you can "bid" any amount of your choosing. Guaranteed you will win that warm and fuzzy feeling you get from donating to a worthy cause and the undying admiration of your peers. The auction runs for a couple more weeks, but I'm sure you can sent the money to our treasurer at your leisure. Thanks for your support, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: David Skoglund david.skoglund@iphouse.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2016 11:38 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Re: wanted: BIDS ================= Date: 23 Aug 2016 17:26:00 -0700 To: Subject: 62 Tarkenton Rookie- Gem Mint Tipton From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 20:32:07 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports! From: ShoelessWes Im glad to see this being discussed. Id much rather collect and hear about 66 batman cards on the servers, than ultra UV hot rookies. Makes me wonder whether or not a Non-Sport server would be appropriate. After all, Jefferson Burdick invented baseball card collecting, and he loved this stuff too. Ive got about 500 vintage non sport, are 50s topps/bowman gum cards like wings, power for peace. Then 1977 star wars nearly done. I too, had the 'wrapper' subscription for information. How can you like 1952 topps baseball, but not wings?! Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > George and others > My vintage non-sport collection is 922 cards. I would say over 90% of that is from the generosity of OBCers. > A bit of a breakdown, for the sake of conversation: over 500 of those areStar Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Over 200 are Superman and Superman II. 886 deal with movies, 13 deal with TV, and 23 are everything else from presidents, World on Wheels, or KISS! > As for pre-1960, I've only got THREE. Only SEVEN are from before I was born in 1974. > So yeah... novice level. > Aaron > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:04:25 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call > I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=E2=99ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collectionsrange from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Let me know if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 22:41:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Sounds like something I want to propose for the September edition of the OBC-AC. How about a Non-Sports server? I know there will be some logistics, like who would be in charge of it. Thanks could still be sent to thanks server if you get some Non Sports with sports. Or if you just get some, post that server like we do with UV. Might make for some interesting conversation and enhance the knowledge of some of us who just scratch the surface I read about how we collect NS cards. I always liked the space program, so I started that route. I also was a big fan as a kid of Gerry Anderson and his Supermarionation shows like Supercar, Capt Scarlett, etc. OK AC, so I am giving you some work for September.. what say ye? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/23/2016 8:38:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Im glad to see this being discussed. Id much rather collect and hear about 66 batman cards on the servers, than ultra UV hot rookies. Makes me wonder whether or not a Non-Sport server would be appropriate. After all, Jefferson Burdick invented baseball card collecting, and he loved this stuff Ive got about 500 vintage non sport, are 50s topps/bowman gum cards like wings, power for peace. Then 1977 star wars nearly done. I too, had the 'wrapper' subscription for information. How can you like 1952 topps baseball, but not wings?! Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Aaron Shirley _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: George and others My vintage non-sport collection is 922 cards. I would say over 90% of that is from the generosity of OBCers. A bit of a breakdown, for the sake of conversation: over 500 of those are Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Over 200 are Superman and Superman II. 886 deal with movies, 13 deal with TV, and 23 are everything else from presidents, World on Wheels, or KISS! As for pre-1960, I've only got THREE. Only SEVEN are from before I was born in 1974. So yeah... novice level. To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) From: _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 09:04:25 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Non sports? "Final" call I am trying to round up information from any other OBCers who collect non-sports. I=E2=99ve heard from 10 collectors whose non-sports collections from 79 cards to 14,446 cards. The purpose of the inquiry is to establish non-sports collectors recognition levels as suggested by some members. Letme know if you have many non-sports numbers to add in to the survey. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 04:12:10 +0000 (UTC) To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non Sports Report From: talbot1@comcast.net Hello All, I was not a contributor to Georges earlier venture on tracking the number of sports cards that we have simply because it seems like such a daunting task. I have all the Topps baseball except (2) `53 Topps (Mantle & Mays), a hand full of `51 Blue backs and a hole bunch of `52' HI numbers, I might need (50) from the Bowman run, I need Ted signs from the Fleer runs, but that's the easy stuff - I have so much "oddball" stuff it's just too time consuming to find it all and count it all. The same holds true for Football, Basketball, and Hockey, though if George lets you count OPC Hockey different than Topps Hockey I still have some areas of my sports lists that are still easy (so to speak) and can add to that list. I estimate that I have at least30K sports cards and probably a lot more than that. Some day I will get mycollection organized enough to give George my actual numbers. So why chime in now, well I'm not going to count them all BUT I think I cangive George a pretty close estimate. I have a 2000 count box stuffed with pre 1950 Non-Sport, I have a 5000 count box stuffed with `50-`60's Non-Sport, I have another 2000 count box stuffed with late 60's and 70's non-sport,I got a binder of different Flag sets (Allen & Ginter, T-59, `56 Topps, `63 Midgee, `70 Topps, etc...) probably about 500 unique cards (I have hundreds of T-59 back variations I have NOT counted for this estimate), a binder of star wars sets including odballs like Burger King, Kilpatricks, etc... another 500 cards or so, a binder of Non-Sport Exhibits with mostly Actors &Actresses but other subjects as well with at least another 500 cards. So I'm somewhere around 11K at this point and if George will allow British Tobacco and Tea set as well as Canadian and American equivalents like Brooke Bond or Red Rose I have about 40 complete sets in albums with 25 - 50 cards in each set so let's add another 1.5K and then another 1K in partial sets ofthese type of cards. I would make a conservative estimate of 13K Non-SportCards in my collection but it is probably more. Once again I just don't have the time for the daunting task of actually giving you an exact count butI believe you can go with this estimate. Eliminate whatever you need to ifmy descriptions don't meet the criteria. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS -------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:15:37 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Non Sports Report While this thread is still trending up, as they say in the online publishing biz, I thought I=E2=99d report what I=E2=99ve learned so far. The purpose of my sticking a toe in these waters is to continue to encourage card collecting by getting some information into the light. On the Who Collects What page on our website, 46 of us (35%) report some type of collecting affliction involving non-sports cards. 22 OBCers (16% of us) reported their non-sports numbers. The total of all single, vintage non-sports cards owned was 63,720. In the 10,000 to 15,000 cards each ownership are three guys: Tipton, Rittenberg and Glasser who have about 57% of the total cards reported. In the 5,000 to 10,000 card =E2=9Cgroup=E2=9D is Schock In the 2,500 to 5,000 card group are Tysver, Levine, Stamper and Freedman. The above folks have about 90% of the non-sports cards reported. 14 more guys had 1,200 cards or less, but their cards are well-liked none-the-less. Feedbacks include: 1. Even discussing non-sports is appreciated by some of our members, who acknowledge that the name of our group has something to do with baseball. 2. Let=E2=99s keep the non-sports numbers separate from the sports card totals. 3. Let=E2=99s stay with 1980 as a vintage cutoff year. 4. No one seems to know how many vintage non-sports cards exist, especiallywhen you (try to) count foreign cards. 5. Measuring progress for non-sports collectors may not be reduced to how many cards you have, but other measures can be complicated. I=E2=99ll let the non-sport collectors I=E2=99ve mentioned figure outwhere to go from here. George Vrechek, your reporter ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 03:01:03 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Dog days of rambling From: Ken M Hi gang,  It's been busy around here and I haven't had time to write down a few thoughts in a while. First, let me say I'm a dummy. I recently posted a thank you note to Nick Covello for a twin-pack of hockey cards that had me confused. I thought he had jumped the gun and sent me a couple from the wrong year because I had posted it wrong and corrected it a short time afterwards. I just realized I CLAIMED THESE off his waiver wire and *I* was the one who wasn't paying attention to the year. (To be fair, I sorted my starter lot, posted and emailed my list, then made the claim before I corrected the year.) Sorry Nick.  The hearing for my divorce was delayed for the final time on Monday. My wife (still technically) finally retained counsel and we need to exchange financial statements. How this wasn't done in the 18 months since I filed is beyond me. The judge wasn't too happy about all these delays, but had to agree to let us get our documents exchanged. A Nov. hearing was set, but we can come in any time before that if we reach an agreement.  I spent a couple hours today putting some UV sets (that look like vintage) into the pages I bought at The National. I also used 14 binders from the stash I got from Sean McGowan to house those pages, leaving me with three gigantic boxes full of binders. Anybody need any? Please?   Three weeks since I gave PSA three cards to grade (at The National) and I haven't even gotten an email from them. If I had submitted the cards one day earlier, I could've picked them up the next day :::sigh:::   Had my house inspected today for homeowners insurance. Same guy that came here in February showed up today. I had inadvertantly missed a payment and had the policy cancelled. Insurance company insisted I restart a new policy, but wouldn't use the same inspection from less than 90 days prior. So the inspector stops by and asks, "Have I been here before?" He didn't understand why they made him drive over here again eit her. He was supposed to arrive between 12 and 2. He called at 1:40, arrived at 1:45, retook 1/2 dozen pictures and was gone by 1:50. He's reusing the same report.  Speaking of houses, anyone out there have solar panels installed? Just looking for feedback on what you like/dislike about the process. Neighbors on one side got them done last summer and I noticed the neighbors on the other side spirting them on their roof when I got back from AC. My house is at least a full story taller than both of them, so it pretty much blocks out the sun on one in the morning and obscures the other one in the evening. Our houses are so close together - about ten feet between them. Plus with a couple 70 ft. oaks in the back yard, I don't see how that side of their roof ever gets any sun.   Still waiting for a transfer back north at work. I'm hoping it'll be at the end of the week, but maybe after Labor Day is more likely. It's not a bad store, but I won't miss the commute home (or to pick up the kids) from there one bit. I had to use my first sick day in two years today, due to the court appearance and not clearing the change in schedule with She Who Cannot Be Named in advance - she had plans, so I had the kids.  Well, it's nearly 3am, so I'll try to get a nap in before work in a couple hours. Got the kids again this afternoon, as her plans continue and I enjoy a late evening shift tomorrow. Thanks for reading and enjoy the rest of the month. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:49:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Non Sports Report From: "George Vrechek" Thanks Mark for the feedback, The non-sports collectors are gradually emerging from their collector's closets and weighing in. I like Mark's approach - as in I have a lot of cards around here someplace. Remember the rules for counting sports cards give you the option of measuring them, weighing them or just making up a number that is believable. For sports cards you can count cards from any country on Earth and the same should hold true for non-sports, I would imagine. I have heard the British have tons of sets of birds, bees, flags, flowers, and any other subject imaginable. Thanks also, Mark, for getting me jump started on the T218 set of miscellaneous sportsmen including professional walkers, aviators and roller George Vrechek ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:15:09 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction update! From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys. Auction update time. AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & AVOID THE RUSH! Two more new lots, in case you hadn't heard. Sal's lot already has three bids and no one even knows what it will be yet. That's 100% pure OBC, in my opinion. LOT 147 new!1962 Topps Football #90 Fran Tarkenton RC, corner torn off, poor/filler shape.LOT 148 new!Something from Sal... to be determined... I shared the link to the auction page with a friend who collects, and he's thinking about bidding on a couple of them. So if you see the last name WOODROME that's what's up. Feel free to do the same, if you know someone who would be interested and understand our way of doing things. Click here for the most current bid amounts: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Thanks for all the action so far. It's been an overwhelming level of response, at least from the perspective of the guy putting all the bids in. You guys are amazing, now cmon and bid again! Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:29:24 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Net54 OBC Discussion From: LAWRENCE TIPTON AC Members/Facilitator: There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D about OBC. Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys isnamed Al Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t know him, he seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great andhe is a well known advance collector? ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 12:40:16 -0700 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion From: Stamper Are you saying that the AC voted down their application? Or did a member not respond or make a trade with them? John Stamper On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:29 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > AC Members/Facilitator: > There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D about OBC. Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys isnamed Al Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t know him, he seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great andhe is a well known advance collector? > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:38:32 -0400 To: Denise Mead Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion From: Joel Freedman maybe our membership person keeps a record of all that apply, that get accepted and rejected. On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:35 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I don't remember Al Richter applying during my 15-years in OBC? That > doesn't mean he hasn't applied, I just don't remember him. > Could he have applied when there was a cap on membership--last century? > peter mead > On 08/24/16, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]< > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > AC Members/Facilitator: > There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D about OBC. > Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 > members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys is named Al > Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t know him, he > seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great and he is a well > known advance collector? > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:40:35 -0400 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion From: Andy Huntoon Didn't we have a couple guys submit applications in the last year but they never responded to Tom's emails and were eventually declined. I seem to remember something like that. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:35 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't remember Al Richter applying during my 15-years in OBC? That doesn't mean he hasn't applied, I just don't remember him. > Could he have applied when there was a cap on membership--last century? > peter mead > On 08/24/16, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > AC Members/Facilitator: > There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D about OBC. Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys isnamed Al Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t know him, he seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great andhe is a well known advance collector? > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:36:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion From: Rick I joined almost ten years ago and I can tell it was very frustrating then going thru the process. So I don't know if it is the same time frame as theyare talking about. It took about nine months before I was accepted. I traded with at least fifteen different people maybe more some very large swaps with very little to no communicate from the committee. At the end I remember sending Mike Rich an email saying I give up and if he knew of another group to join. Without any details he said give it a little more time because they were having problems. I can say it worked out in the end and enjoyed my time since but I will say it was extremely close to not happening. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:59 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > It sounds like it all worked out fine on the thread. > Al would have been great in the group since he has a fine sense of humor according to his posts, but he also has a really tough WL. > It's good to hear/see the positive comments about OBC on the Net54 board. > That place can be a powder keg of drama that makes it tough to enjoy. > But they have a lot of great guys there too ;-) > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: hoot owl1 > Cc: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: August 24, 2016 at 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion > Didn't we have a couple guys submit applications in the last year but they never responded to Tom's emails and were eventually declined. I seem to remember something like that. > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:35 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't remember Al Richter applying during my 15-years in OBC? That doesn't mean he hasn't applied, I just don't remember him. > Could he have applied when there was a cap on membership--last century? > peter mead > On 08/24/16, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > AC Members/Facilitator: > There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D about OBC. Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys isnamed Al Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t know him, he seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great andhe is a well known advance collector? > Guru ================= To: vct , "OCTraders@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 23:39:25 +0000 Subject: Vintage Pack Break from 1979 From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, My latest pack break takes me the non-sport route to the 1979 Mork and Mindy set.... Enjoy....or not..... Be happy, John Scott Gray https://youtu.be/mkpLT0swsww [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mkpLT0swsww/hqdefault.jpg] 1979 Mork and Mindy Wax Pack Break In another installment of his monthly pack break series, John Scott Gray opens a pack of 1979 Topps Mork & Mindy, starring Robin Williams. This wax pack, Sent from Outlook ================= To: "'LAWRENCE TIPTON'" , Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 16:41:48 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion From: "Grant Rainsley" Agree, more info needed on his =E2=9Crejection.=E2=9D How long ago was it? It certainly hasn=E2=99t been during one of my terms on the AC I don=E2=99t think, but it could well have occurred some other time, I=E2=99m only on theAC every now and then=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.maybe as suggested when the period of =E2=9Cno new members=E2=9D was in effect=E2=A6or maybe because he doesn=E2=99t do old BB? Just wondering=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:29 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion AC Members/Facilitator: There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D about OBC. Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys isnamed Al Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t know him, he seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great andhe is a well known advance collector? ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:53:14 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Net54 OBC Discussion From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Thanks Tom for the quick follow up with Al and Anthony. Anthony said he applied in 2000 and although Al did not say when he applied, it sounded like it has been quite awhile for him too. I just hated to see an OBC thread overthere, where a couple of guys state that we rejected them. Again thanks for the quick response over there Tom. ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 21:37:00 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: Late Addition to Rittenberg Auction From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I checked with Aaron, and he said it was OK to add one late auction item. We have had a good amount of talk about the =E2=9969 and =E2=9970 Topps Man on the Moon sets. Then the 1963 Topps =E2=9CAstronaut Pictures=E2=9D set with the 3-D backs was brought to light. Now I introduce the fourth set 1963 Popsicle =E2=9CSpace Cards". 55 cards in the set and was issued just after the 1963 Topps =E2=9CAstronauts Pictures=E2=9D set. The '63 Popsicle =E2=9CSpace Cards=E2=9D and the =E2=9963 Topps =E2=9CAstronaut Pictures=E2=9D share the same artwork and the same card numbers. But the backs feature an add for Popsicle frozen confections (no 3-D backs) and all references to Topps are removed. The Popsicle =E2=9CSpace Cards=E2=9D (F253) 55 card set was issued shortly after the 1963 Topps =E2=9C Astronaut Pictures =E2=9D (R709-6) set. The two sets share the same artwork and card numbers. The front of the#55 checklist card has the word =E2=9CTopps=E2=9D removed. Other than that, the fronts of the two sets are identical. The card Backs are a different story. The 3-D sketches had been removed and have been replaced by a generic advertising card. Backs feature an advertisement for =E2=9C frozen confections" and a "Joe Lowe Corporation" manufacturer identification. The Sport Americana Price Guide values the Popsicle =E2=9CSpace Cards" atdouble the price of the 1963 "Astronaut Pictures=E2=9D I won a 23 card lot on eBay for $100 and seven of them were duplicates. I will also include a duplicate #55 a TOUGH checklist card! The checklist is basically complete but has a deep1/2 inch rubber band cut and numbers creases and round corners. Starter set of eight 1963 Popsicle =E2=9CSpace Cards=E2=9D cards are in G-VG except #55 checklist in Poor condition #6 #12 (#39 John Glenn) (#42 John Glenn) (#44 John Glenn) (#45 John Glenn) (#47 John Glenn and family with President Kennedy) (#55 checklist card) open at $25 ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:31:17 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mystery Solved! (Rittenberg Auction) From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok Boys the mystery slot in the Stevie auction is about to be revealed! I picked up a few cool cards and "Gonged" myself a few times. (Larry, this term should be added to the OBC vocabulary list-- this is when you buy a card that you already own) At the show last weekend, someone had both versions of the 1943 MP & Co Stan Hack. Of COURSE I picked the wrong one. I was going to DS it, but the money will only wind up back to Steve with whatever I bid on. So this is going into the mix...BUT THAT'S NOT ALL! I'll take Potpourri for as much as I can get Alex: THREE 1961 Fleer- 22 (Evans), 60 (McGraw), 88 (Wilson) 1966 Mets Team card #172 (poor) 1962 #475 Whitey Ford AS (1" paper loss on the back) 1961 #280 Frank Howard (Nice except for the tape on the front- The 55 year old tape comes FREE!) 1956 #280 Gilliam (grey) Pretty good, slight surface crease on the front How much would you expect to bid on these fine cards? $5? $10?... Well that's not all! 1952 Topps- Ted Gray- Badly cut to the size of a 57T- This fine card can also be used as an ornament on your Christmas tree as it comes with a FREE hole in the top for hanging! 1953 Topps- #48 Bob Del Greco (this one is pretty nice) AND #50 Dodger Manager Chuck Dressen! (this card will be a favorite of Giants fans, as this ornament has the hole on the bottom left, so he will be hanging upside down on the tree! 1954 Topps- #159 Dave Philley. I'm sorry, but the scrapbook this card came from has been removed and is NOT included with the card. Now I know you are saying "how can you include ALL these AMAZING OBC cards in one auction line?" Well, I scoured many tables to bring you the FINEST in OBC material, it took me forever to sort everything out, and the AC extended the auction, allowing me to get in LOL. NOW how much would you bid? $20? $30? But we aren't done yet! The winning bidder will also receive this special card-- a 1965 BOB GIBSON # 320! A 90 year old man has less wrinkles than this OBC Beauty! You can have all these fabulous cards for ONE easy payment of whatever your pocket can withstand! The winner will also receive the special "The Card We'll Never Own- OBC National 2016" T206 card of Honus Wagner! Aaron, add these to auction line #148. Time to ROCK the BIDS! Nothing means OBC more than helping out one of our own. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 22:35:26 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 OBC Discussion From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Can someone link me to the thread? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/24/2016 3:29:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: AC Members/Facilitator: There is a discussion on the Net54 =E2=9CPost War Sports Card Forum=E2=9D OBC. Someone asked about OBC and I answered their question. Now two Net54 members are saying that OBC rejected them? One of these guys is named Al Richter and although I have never traded with him and I don=E2=99t knowhim, he seems like a GREAT guy and his posts are always great and he is a well known advance collector? ================= Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:29:31 -0700 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery Solved! (Rittenberg Auction) From: Stamper Hi Sal There are three versions of the 43 MP Co Stan Hack. Cream and grey backs with "Infielder" and the gray back "infielder, Chicago Cubs" which has the back rotated compared to the other two. John Stamper On Aug 24, 2016, at 7:31 PM, "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Ok Boys the mystery slot in the Stevie auction is about to be revealed! > I picked up a few cool cards and "Gonged" myself a few times. (Larry, this term should be added to the OBC vocabulary list-- this is when you buy a card that you already own) > At the show last weekend, someone had both versions of the 1943 MP & Co Stan Hack. Of COURSE I picked the wrong one. I was going to DS it, but the money will only wind up back to Steve with whatever I bid on. So this is going into the mix...BUT THAT'S NOT ALL! > I'll take Potpourri for as much as I can get Alex: > THREE 1961 Fleer- 22 (Evans), 60 (McGraw), 88 (Wilson) > 1966 Mets Team card #172 (poor) > 1962 #475 Whitey Ford AS (1" paper loss on the back) > 1961 #280 Frank Howard (Nice except for the tape on the front- The 55 year old tape comes FREE!) > 1956 #280 Gilliam (grey) Pretty good, slight surface crease on the front > How much would you expect to bid on these fine cards? $5? $10?... Well that's not all! > 1952 Topps- Ted Gray- Badly cut to the size of a 57T- This fine card can also be used as an ornament on your Christmas tree as it comes with a FREE hole in the top for hanging! > 1953 Topps- #48 Bob Del Greco (this one is pretty nice) AND #50 Dodger Manager Chuck Dressen! (this card will be a favorite of Giants fans, as this ornament has the hole on the bottom left, so he will be hanging upside downon the tree! > 1954 Topps- #159 Dave Philley. I'm sorry, but the scrapbook this card came from has been removed and is NOT included with the card. > Now I know you are saying "how can you include ALL these AMAZING OBC cards in one auction line?" Well, I scoured many tables to bring you the FINESTin OBC material, it took me forever to sort everything out, and the AC extended the auction, allowing me to get in LOL. > NOW how much would you bid? $20? $30? But we aren't done yet! > The winning bidder will also receive this special card-- a 1965 BOB GIBSON # 320! A 90 year old man has less wrinkles than this OBC Beauty! > You can have all these fabulous cards for ONE easy payment of whatever your pocket can withstand! The winner will also receive the special "The CardWe'll Never Own- OBC National 2016" T206 card of Honus Wagner! > Aaron, add these to auction line #148. Time to ROCK the BIDS! Nothing means OBC more than helping out one of our own. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 00:46:44 -0400 To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery Solved! (Rittenberg Auction) From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL thanks John for the increase in my Stan list. this one has the team name listed. Time to do an update! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/24/2016 11:29:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com writes: Hi Sal There are three versions of the 43 MP Co Stan Hack. Cream and grey backs with "Infielder" and the gray back "infielder, Chicago Cubs" which has the back rotated compared to the other two. John Stamper On Aug 24, 2016, at 7:31 PM, "_ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Ok Boys the mystery slot in the Stevie auction is about to be revealed! I picked up a few cool cards and "Gonged" myself a few times. (Larry, this term should be added to the OBC vocabulary list-- this is when you buy a card that you already own) At the show last weekend, someone had both versions of the 1943 MP & Co Stan Hack. Of COURSE I picked the wrong one. I was going to DS it, but the money will only wind up back to Steve with whatever I bid on. So this is going into the mix...BUT THAT'S NOT ALL! I'll take Potpourri for as much as I can get Alex: THREE 1961 Fleer- 22 (Evans), 60 (McGraw), 88 (Wilson) 1966 Mets Team card #172 (poor) 1962 #475 Whitey Ford AS (1" paper loss on the back) 1961 #280 Frank Howard (Nice except for the tape on the front- The 55 year old tape comes FREE!) 1956 #280 Gilliam (grey) Pretty good, slight surface crease on the front How much would you expect to bid on these fine cards? $5? $10?... Well that's not all! 1952 Topps- Ted Gray- Badly cut to the size of a 57T- This fine card can also be used as an ornament on your Christmas tree as it comes with a FREE hole in the top for hanging! 1953 Topps- #48 Bob Del Greco (this one is pretty nice) AND #50 Dodger Manager Chuck Dressen! (this card will be a favorite of Giants fans, as this ornament has the hole on the bottom left, so he will be hanging upside down on the tree! 1954 Topps- #159 Dave Philley. I'm sorry, but the scrapbook this card came from has been removed and is NOT included with the card. Now I know you are saying "how can you include ALL these AMAZING OBC cards in one auction line?" Well, I scoured many tables to bring you the FINEST in OBC material, it took me forever to sort everything out, and the AC extended the auction, allowing me to get in LOL. NOW how much would you bid? $20? $30? But we aren't done yet! The winning bidder will also receive this special card-- a 1965 BOB GIBSON # 320! A 90 year old man has less wrinkles than this OBC Beauty! You can have all these fabulous cards for ONE easy payment of whatever your pocket can withstand! The winner will also receive the special "The Card We'll Never Own- OBC National 2016" T206 card of Honus Wagner! Aaron, add these to auction line #148. Time to ROCK the BIDS! Nothing means OBC more than helping out one of our own. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:04:49 -0500 Subject: M&P Variations lead to another question From: "George Vrechek" OBC's John Stamper pointed out (at least) 3 versions of the 1943 M&P Stan Hack card. Thanks, John, for reminding us. Dick Gilkeson's great book on variations "only" tackled post war sets, calling it Volume II. To my knowledge, neither Dick nor anyone else has tackled a volume one. The SCD Catalog, for example, explains the general variations in this M&P set but doesn't have a card by card checklist. Has anyone seen something close to a variation guide for pre-war sets? Given all the back variations on tobacco cards, this would have to be a fairly chubby book, but perhaps a Volume 1b covering sets between WWI and WWII would be doable? I know, easy for me to say. The problem is doing it. George Vrechek ================= To: Wantlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:15:18 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction daily news From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys. A lot of you have said "If there is anything I can do to help letme know." Well, there is. START TALKING ABOUT THIS AUCTION. Post something about the cards you're donating. Or post about that awesome card you saw so-and-so added. Email some guys in the group directly about "Hey did you see the T205 Matty? Thought you'd like it." Include this link in all your emails: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Get the conversation going! Conversation is key here. Conversation is exposure. Conversation is advertisement. And honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing a little good-natured sparring about who's gonna win the Japanese cards... orthe SSPC set... or, you know... that awesome 66 Stargell. I have found I get more bids after I post an update, and I will post, but I also feel like I'm a little "shouty" when I'm the only one posting about it. AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10PM EST. BID NOW! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing We've had a few guys post "late entries" and I want them to get the exposure they need. So check out items 142-150! LOT 142 new!1933 Goudey #72 Owen Carroll, Brooklyn. Very nice except for some pencil marking on side of his face.LOT 143 new!1953 Bowman #21 Joe Garagiola, creases and scraping on front and backLOT 144 new!1953 Bowman #93 Martin/Rizzuto, horizontal creases across front middle of the cardLOT 145 new!1953 Bowman B&W lot of six: 6, 19, 22, 47, 55, 62. Creases, stains, 1 is trimmed, but they present well.LOT 146 new!2-card Bauer lot: 1954 Bowman #129 (very nice, not OBC grade at all) and 1961 Post (or Jello?) #90, cut poorly on bottom so some life totals are missing.LOT 147 new!1962 Topps Football #90 Fran Tarkenton RC, corner torn off, poor/filler shape.LOT 148 new!Sal's super lot: 1943MP&Co Stan Hack, 1952T86, 1953T48&50, 1954T159, 1956T280, 1961Fleerx3, 1961T280Howard, 1962T475FordAS, 1965T320Gibson, 1966T172MetsTm, 2016 Nat'l T206 Honus reprint. LOT 149 new!1963 Popsicle Space Cards lot of 8. G-VG except CL poor. 6, 12, 39 John Glenn, 42 Glenn, 44 Glenn, 45 Glenn, 47 Glenn & fam w/ Pres. Kennedy, 55 CLLOT 150 new!One last mystery. Check back later for this one. Email me to bid. One lot or a hundred. Whole dollar increments only, please. And now for the full list. EMAIL ME if you can't access the Google sheet orsee the list in your emails! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing LOT #DESCRIPTION (includes all bids through Thursday 9:45am Eastern)BIDBIDDERDONOR AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & AVOID THE RUSH! Also, please check the end of the list for a few new items (Lots 142-150)! LOT 11909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$31SchockCookLOT 21909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture)$34GrayWubbenLOT 3 updated1910 T218 lot of 3 aviators: Hamilton, Hoxsey, Moisant. VG/EX. Please note the change inthe description!$21MartensWagnerLOT 41911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$66SilvaFittsLOT 51912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie$15TriplerWubbenLOT 61919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons$18MackieFittsLOT 71921 Exhibit Powell fair$11DonaldsonWubbenLOT 81933 Goudey lot of 2 with trimmed bottom border and album pasted backs$6HenthornMoletaLOT 91933 Goudey lot of 4 with trimmed bottom border$11SilvaMoletaLOT 101933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape$13SchockReedLOT 111933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$43BannonShepardLOT 121936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$16SilvaElwellLOT 131938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape$11SchockReedLOT 141941 Play Ball #41 Frankie Hayes, Philadelphia Athletics$11SilvaMoletaLOT 151947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$21SilvaGliddenLOT 161947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$20DeliaGliddenLOT 171947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$20DeliaGliddenLOT 181947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$7TriplerAshtonLOT 191949 Bowman #98 Phil Rizzuto - rounded corners, one good crease, some surface wear - call it fair - not road kill$36MeadPrickettLOT 201950 Bowman #203 Danny Murtaugh, Pirates. Paper loss at top$10BannonDelottLOT 211950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$17GrayDeliaLOT 221951 Bowman #31 Roy Campanella$34BannonSchottLOT 231951 Bowman #32 Duke Snider$28Rumley-WellsSchottLOT 241952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$53MackieCookLOT 251953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$40BannonGuruLOT 261953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$7Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 271954 Topps #201 Kaline RC - GD condition if not for 2 small punch holes and pinhole near top of card. Back is nicer than front.$52MartensSchockLOT 281957 Topps #18 Don Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and anink blob, but presents nicely otherwise$24HenthornMackLOT 291957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters (Berra/Mantle). F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$27LabsGuruLOT 301958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$14Rumley-WellsPelletierLOT 311958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White Sox VGEX 20.00 bv.Super nice, just o/c$1HenthornZentkovichLOT 321958 Topps #487 Mickey Mantle AS - about 85% of the card: bitten off top corner$5ShirleyMoletaLOT 331959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g$11PikeWubbenLOT 341959 Topps #1 Ford Frick and 1965 Topps #1 AVG leaders w/ Brooks Robinson (both well-loved)$5HenthornMoletaLOT 351959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10Rumley-WellsGlasserLOT 361959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G$7ElwellHenthornLOT 371959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c$6ElwellHenthornLOT 381959 Topps #547 Jim Baxes - major creases$2MartensDelottLOT 391959 Topps #553 Orlando Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4HutchinsonRainsleyLOT 401959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$41MillerRiceLOT 411959 Topps lot of 3 - HOFers w/ clipped corners: 155 Slaughter, 260 Wynn, 352 Roberts$5CovelloMoletaLOT 421959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$8CorvelloCodereLOT 431960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126and 131$38TiptonMorgantiLOT 441960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$9DeliaPillionLOT 451960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4$11HenthornTriplerLOT 461961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5CraigHuntoonLOT 471961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv$8DeliaZentkovichLOT 481961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1ShirleyElwellLOT 491961 Topps Stamp Album, empty, center page loose from the staples, PLUS 75 loose stamps taken out of albums$25MeadLyonsLOT 501961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX)$26SilvaTriplerLOT 511961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10CraigCookLOT 521961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex$5MeadCookLOT 531961-62 Post lot of 8 diff. beaters, including Killebrew$9GlasserMoletaLOT 541962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$11MillerCookLOT 551962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$12DeliaShirleyLOT 561962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards$13GalbreathFittsLOT 571962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$7ShirleyCodereLOT 581962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$4MoletaGuruLOT 591963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph...$30D'AngeloTaylorLOT 601963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle, "16" written on cheek$45Rumley-WellsMeadLOT 611964 Topps#136 Koufax World Series$5GalbreathRainsleyLOT 621964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$23DahmsGliddenLOT 631964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4GlasserRainsleyLOT 641964 Topps lot, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc.G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$31GalbreathRiceLOT 651964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor$8PikeWubbenLOT 661965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5HenthornCookLOT 671965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$9AshtonCookLOT 681965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 691966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$3AshtonShirleyLOT 701966 Topps #486 Tommy John, VG$4ShirleyHenthornLOT 711967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks, P/F with creasing$2Rumley-WellsHenthornLOT 721967 Topps lot of6 different pack fresh MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$6HenthornMoletaLOT 731967-69 lot of 5 HOF Tiptons: 67T Kaline #30, 68T Perry #85, 68TGame Brooks #9, 69T Banks #20, 69T B.Williams #450$3HenthornMoletaLOT 741968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12ElliottAshtonLOT 751968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$5HenthornAshtonLOT 761968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$2ShirleyElwellLOT 771968-69 Topps Hockey group of28 different - OBC grade, some better$18ArbeenyCookLOT 781969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$2MartensDelottLOT 791969 Topps Deckle lot of 7different w/ Aparicio$6GlasserMoletaLOT 801969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$11GrayGuruLOT 811969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$9DeliaGrayLOT 821969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$12DeliaCookLOT 831970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5HenthornPillionLOT 841970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$15TriplerValacakLOT 851970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$8WestAshtonLOT 861970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv$3ElliottZentkovichLOT 871970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$2PikeElwellLOT 881970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$2ElwellDelottLOT 891970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$111DeliaCookLOT 901971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$17ShepardValacakLOT 911971 Topps #26 BlylevenRC, EX$4AshtonHenthornLOT 921971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudge on top border$16DeliaHenthornLOT 931971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13,Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease)$5GlasserHenthornLOT 941971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+$2no bidsHenthornLOT 951971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$10CovelloPelletierLOT 961971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners$11ShepardFreedmanLOT 971972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$12TriplerValacakLOT 981972 Topps #79 Fisk/Cooper RC, G$4ShirleyHenthornLOT 991973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$11HenthornGrayLOT 1001973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satch Paige, F.Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold outof Roberto Clemente$175ThayerMorganLOT 1011973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookiegvg$5HenthornCookLOT 1021973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+$2GlasserHenthornLOT 1031973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G$3MoletaHenthornLOT 1041973 Topps lot of 20 different Tiptons, guaranteed creases and a couple HOFers$2Rumley-WellsMoletaLOT 1051973 Topps lot of 5 different MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$5HenthornMoletaLOT 1061974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$15ZentkovichGrayLOT 1071974 Topps starter lot, 160cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary$7ZentkovichHutchinsonLOT 1081974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX$2ValacakHenthornLOT 1091975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition$20AshtonGotoLOT 1101975 Topps #540Lou Brock, EX or better$2ShirleyGotoLOT 1111975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG$3no bidsHenthornLOT 1121975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$10ZentkovichGrayLOT 1131975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs$19MillerYudtLOT 1141975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$31HenthornTysverLOT 1151975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539539 612$1HenthornElwellLOT 1161975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$13DeliaShirleyLOT 117NO LONGER AVAILABLE. APOLOGIES TO ALL AFFECTED BIDDERS.N/AN/AN/ALOT 1181976 SSPC complete set of 630$36PelletierGliddenLOT 1191976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5HenthornCookLOT 1201976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCookLOT 1211976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33,1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$6CraigCookLOT 1221977 Topps complete set from vending case$75ThayerCipraLOT 1231977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+$6LyonsHenthornLOT 1241978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease$10AshtonFreedmanLOT 1251978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCookLOT 12625 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards$51MorganFittsLOT 127Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card$13GotoFittsLOT 128Baseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$10AshtonMeadLOT 129BOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloLOT 130BOOK: Classic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$21MorganMeadLOT 131BOOK: Glory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4BannonElwellLOT 132BOOK: Great Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall ofthe 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10MeadD'AngeloLOT 133BOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloLOT 134BOOK: One of a Kind: The GeneConley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10LabsGalbreathLOT 135BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts$14HenthornFittsLOT 136BOOK: Touching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10MorganGalbreathLOT 137UV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM)$2CraigZentkovichLOT 138UV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards.$5LyonsSanknerLOT 139UV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present$5AshtonZentkovichLOT 140UV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present$1AshtonZentkovichLOT 141UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career HighDevon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels$10no bidsCodereLOT 142 new!1933 Goudey #72 Owen Carroll, Brooklyn. Very nice except for some pencil marking on side of his face.$12SilvaMcGowanLOT 143 new!1953 Bowman #21 Joe Garagiola, creases and scraping on front and back$6Rumley-WellsMcGowanLOT 144 new!1953 Bowman #93 Martin/Rizzuto, horizontal creases across front middle of the card$16Rumley-WellsMcGowanLOT 145 new!1953 Bowman B&W lot of six: 6, 19, 22, 47, 55, 62.Creases, stains, 1 is trimmed, but they present well.$16PelletierMcGowanLOT 146 new!2-card Bauer lot: 1954 Bowman #129 (very nice, not OBC grade at all) and 1961 Post (or Jello?) #90, cut poorly on bottom so some life totalsare missing.$6Rumley-WellsMcGowanLOT 147 new!1962 Topps Football #90 FranTarkenton RC, corner torn off, poor/filler shape.$11ArbeenyTysverLOT 148 new!Sal's super lot: 1943MP&Co Stan Hack, 1952T86, 1953T48&50, 1954T159, 1956T280, 1961Fleerx3, 1961T280Howard, 1962T475FordAS, 1965T320Gibson, 1966T172MetsTm, 2016 Nat'l T206 Honus reprint. $21Tipton - and a legitimate bidding war ensues!DominoLOT 149 new!1963 Popsicle Space Cards lot of 8. G-VG except CL poor. 6, 12, 39 John Glenn, 42 Glenn, 44 Glenn, 45 Glenn, 47 Glenn & fam w/ Pres. Kennedy, 55 CL$25CraigTiptonLOT 150 new!One last mystery. Check back later for this one. LOT 999ONE HEARTY HIGH FIVE FOR THE CAUSE (all bidders win this lot; bid accordingly)any6 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing ================= To: Aaron Shirley , Wantlist Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:51:59 -0500 Subject: RE: BID THIS BABY UP!!!- RITTENBERG auction daily news From: JAY TYSVER Aaron you asked for it, now you have it. I will make this fun and crazy at once. I challenge any person to help bid up the currently unbid lot #111- the 1975 Topps Fred Lynn rookie in G/VG condition. I also challenge people to openly bid on ramblings or publicly so we can see where the bidding is on this. I open the bidding at $25 for this card and hopefully we can drive this baby up in price. That is the standard bid for lot 999 which is a hearty high five for the cause. Remember, this is going to a good cause. Jay Tysver To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-ac@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:15:18 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction daily news Hey guys. A lot of you have said "If there is anything I can do to help letme know." Well, there is. START TALKING ABOUT THIS AUCTION. Post something about the cards you're donating. Or post about that awesome card you saw so-and-so added. Email some guys in the group directly about "Hey did you see the T205 Matty? Thought you'd like it." Include this link in all your emails: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Get the conversation going! Conversation is key here. Conversation is exposure. Conversation is advertisement. And honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing a little good-natured sparring about who's gonna win the Japanese cards... orthe SSPC set... or, you know... that awesome 66 Stargell. I have found I get more bids after I post an update, and I will post, but I also feel like I'm a little "shouty" when I'm the only one posting about it. AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10PM EST. BID NOW! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing We've had a few guys post "late entries" and I want them to get the exposure they need. So check out items 142-150! LOT 142 new!1933 Goudey #72 Owen Carroll, Brooklyn. Very nice except for some pencil marking on side of his face.LOT 143 new!1953 Bowman #21 Joe Garagiola, creases and scraping on front and backLOT 144 new!1953 Bowman #93 Martin/Rizzuto, horizontal creases across front middle of the cardLOT 145 new!1953 Bowman B&W lot of six: 6, 19, 22, 47, 55, 62. Creases, stains, 1 is trimmed, but they present well.LOT 146 new!2-card Bauer lot: 1954 Bowman #129 (very nice, not OBC grade at all) and 1961 Post (or Jello?) #90, cut poorly on bottom so some life totals are missing.LOT 147 new!1962 Topps Football #90 Fran Tarkenton RC, corner torn off, poor/filler shape.LOT 148 new!Sal's super lot: 1943MP&Co Stan Hack, 1952T86, 1953T48&50, 1954T159, 1956T280, 1961Fleerx3, 1961T280Howard, 1962T475FordAS, 1965T320Gibson, 1966T172MetsTm, 2016 Nat'l T206 Honus reprint. LOT 149 new!1963 Popsicle Space Cards lot of 8. G-VG except CL poor. 6, 12, 39 John Glenn, 42 Glenn, 44 Glenn, 45 Glenn, 47 Glenn & fam w/ Pres. Kennedy, 55 CLLOT 150 new!One last mystery. Check back later for this one. Email me to bid. One lot or a hundred. Whole dollar increments only, please. And now for the full list. EMAIL ME if you can't access the Google sheet orsee the list in your emails! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing LOT #DESCRIPTION (includes all bids through Thursday 9:45am Eastern)BIDBIDDERDONOR AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & AVOID THE RUSH! Also, please check the end of the list for a few new items (Lots 142-150)! LOT 11909 T206 Carlos Smith Southern Leaguer SGC-10$31SchockCookLOT 21909 T206 Johnny Evers (portrait) (missing upper corners, but great picture)$34GrayWubbenLOT 3 updated1910 T218 lot of 3 aviators: Hamilton, Hoxsey, Moisant. VG/EX. Please note the change inthe description!$21MartensWagnerLOT 41911 T205 Christy Mathewson. Missing upper right corner$66SilvaFittsLOT 51912 T202 Center Panel "A great batsman" - Lajoie$15TriplerWubbenLOT 61919-21 W514 - lot of 4 tiptons$18MackieFittsLOT 71921 Exhibit Powell fair$11DonaldsonWubbenLOT 81933 Goudey lot of 2 with trimmed bottom border and album pasted backs$6HenthornMoletaLOT 91933 Goudey lot of 4 with trimmed bottom border$11SilvaMoletaLOT 101933 Indian gum wrapper. OBC shape$13SchockReedLOT 111933 Tattoo Orbit Woody English SGC 50 (The Lionel Carter Collection)$43BannonShepardLOT 121936 R314 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums lot (3) Hal Troskey (batting) Indians, Pete Fox Tigers (trimmed), Tom Bridges (pitching) Tigers$16SilvaElwellLOT 131938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape$11SchockReedLOT 141941 Play Ball #41 Frankie Hayes, Philadelphia Athletics$11SilvaMoletaLOT 151947-66 Exhibit starter lot 1: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$21SilvaGliddenLOT 161947-66 Exhibit starter lot 2: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$20DeliaGliddenLOT 171947-66 Exhibit starter lot 3: 10 (blank backs) - random unless you have a wantlist$20DeliaGliddenLOT 181947-66 Exhibits, lot of 4: #42 Bruton, #183 Majeski, #242 E.Robinson, #290 Torgeson (Braves uniform), all pretty good condition$7TriplerAshtonLOT 191949 Bowman #98 Phil Rizzuto - rounded corners, one good crease, some surface wear - call it fair - not road kill$36MeadPrickettLOT 201950 Bowman #203 Danny Murtaugh, Pirates. Paper loss at top$10BannonDelottLOT 211950-1956 Callahan HOF starter set, 24 different, including Foxx, Mathewson, Johnson, and Gehringer, avg. VG condition$17GrayDeliaLOT 221951 Bowman #31 Roy Campanella$34BannonSchottLOT 231951 Bowman #32 Duke Snider$28Rumley-WellsSchottLOT 241952 Topps #345 Sam White, high number, tipton$53MackieCookLOT 251953 Bowman Color #44 Bauer/Berra/Mantle. F-G no paper loss, several creases, minor scuffs on front, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$40BannonGuruLOT 261953 Bowman lot: #19 Dark creased in middle and #37 Wilson creased and scuffed$7Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 271954 Topps #201 Kaline RC - GD condition if not for 2 small punch holes and pinhole near top of card. Back is nicer than front.$52MartensSchockLOT 281957 Topps #18 Don Drysdale RC. Poor due to 2 pin holes and anink blob, but presents nicely otherwise$24HenthornMackLOT 291957 Topps #407 Yankees Power Hitters (Berra/Mantle). F-G condition, no paper loss, several creases, rounded corners. Centered 70/30 L-R, 70/30 T-B$27LabsGuruLOT 301958 Topps #1 Ted Williams - poor. Paper loss bottom right corner.$14Rumley-WellsPelletierLOT 311958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS White Sox VGEX 20.00 bv.Super nice, just o/c$1HenthornZentkovichLOT 321958 Topps #487 Mickey Mantle AS - about 85% of the card: bitten off top corner$5ShirleyMoletaLOT 331959 Fleer Ted Williams #2 Babe Ruth g$11PikeWubbenLOT 341959 Topps #1 Ford Frick and 1965 Topps #1 AVG leaders w/ Brooks Robinson (both well-loved)$5HenthornMoletaLOT 351959 Topps #430 Whitey Ford, no creases or blemishes. Other than slightly bent corners this card is a beauty.$10Rumley-WellsGlasserLOT 361959 Topps #450 Eddie Mathews, G$7ElwellHenthornLOT 371959 Topps #455 Larry Doby, EX-Mt but o/c$6ElwellHenthornLOT 381959 Topps #547 Jim Baxes - major creases$2MartensDelottLOT 391959 Topps #553 Orlando Cepeda AS VG+ o/c Hi Number$4HutchinsonRainsleyLOT 401959 Topps 100 different grey back, #111-488 incl Banks IA, Kaline IA, Aparicio. Honest wear - no tears, writing, punch holes, etc. G-Ex, avg VG-/VG$41MillerRiceLOT 411959 Topps lot of 3 - HOFers w/ clipped corners: 155 Slaughter, 260 Wynn, 352 Roberts$5CovelloMoletaLOT 421959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC$8CorvelloCodereLOT 431960 Leaf high number lot (7) #'s 102 106 109 117 121 126and 131$38TiptonMorgantiLOT 441960 Topps #7 Master and Mentor (Mays and Rigney) VG$9DeliaPillionLOT 451960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4$11HenthornTriplerLOT 461961 Bell Brand Dodgers #19Jim Gilliam. Minor creases, rounded corners. No writing or pinholes or paper loss$5CraigHuntoonLOT 471961 Topps #120 Ed Mathews Braves VGEX 30.00 bv$8DeliaZentkovichLOT 481961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Washington Senators comic logo (Poor)$1ShirleyElwellLOT 491961 Topps Stamp Album, empty, center page loose from the staples, PLUS 75 loose stamps taken out of albums$25MeadLyonsLOT 501961 Topps, starter lot of 110 commons varying in condition from Tipton to Excellent+ (mostly VG+ to EX)$26SilvaTriplerLOT 511961 Union Oil Gil Garrido Tacoma Giants SGC-84$10CraigCookLOT 521961 Union Oil Mike Shannon Portland Beavers ex$5MeadCookLOT 531961-62 Post lot of 8 diff. beaters, including Killebrew$9GlasserMoletaLOT 541962 Bell Brand #20 Daryl Spencer PSA-4$11MillerCookLOT 551962 Post #142 Willie Mays - creases but nice$12DeliaShirleyLOT 561962 Post baseball - lot of ten cards$13GalbreathFittsLOT 571962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex)$7ShirleyCodereLOT 581962 Topps Stamp Sandy Koufax NM off centered 10/90 L-R 60/40 T-B$4MoletaGuruLOT 591963 Fleer #46 Joe Adcock SP (autographed) about Vg-Ex depending on your belief in the autograph...$30D'AngeloTaylorLOT 601963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle, "16" written on cheek$45Rumley-WellsMeadLOT 611964 Topps#136 Koufax World Series$5GalbreathRainsleyLOT 621964 Topps Coin #131 Mantle (left-handed)$23DahmsGliddenLOT 631964 Topps Giant #38 Killebrew VG+ Ex$4GlasserRainsleyLOT 641964 Topps lot, 100 different, #16-281 incl Brock, Friendly Foes, DeBusschere. Honest wear, no tears, writing, punch holes, etc.G-Ex, averaging VG/Ex$31GalbreathRiceLOT 651964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor$8PikeWubbenLOT 661965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs ex$5HenthornCookLOT 671965 Topps #16 Joe Morgan rookie gvg$9AshtonCookLOT 681965 Topps Embossed lot: #45 Cepeda scuffed and #48 Raditz less scuffed$1Rumley-WellsDelottLOT 691966 Topps #255 Willie Stargell$3AshtonShirleyLOT 701966 Topps #486 Tommy John, VG$4ShirleyHenthornLOT 711967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks, P/F with creasing$2Rumley-WellsHenthornLOT 721967 Topps lot of6 different pack fresh MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$6HenthornMoletaLOT 731967-69 lot of 5 HOF Tiptons: 67T Kaline #30, 68T Perry #85, 68TGame Brooks #9, 69T Banks #20, 69T B.Williams #450$3HenthornMoletaLOT 741968 Topps #110 Hank Aaron VG+$12ElliottAshtonLOT 751968 Topps #370 Hank Aaron AS in Good+ condition$5HenthornAshtonLOT 761968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver, tipton facial hair variation$2ShirleyElwellLOT 771968-69 Topps Hockey group of28 different - OBC grade, some better$18ArbeenyCookLOT 781969 Topps #208 Clendenon - Houston variation$2MartensDelottLOT 791969 Topps Deckle lot of 7different w/ Aparicio$6GlasserMoletaLOT 801969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A37B 43B 48B 49B 50B$11GrayGuruLOT 811969 Topps Team Poster, Oakland A's (fair)$9DeliaGrayLOT 821969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor gvg$12DeliaCookLOT 831970 Kelloggs #15 Frank Robinson G-VG$5HenthornPillionLOT 841970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$15TriplerValacakLOT 851970 Topps #462 Hank Aaron AS in EX condition$8WestAshtonLOT 861970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv$3ElliottZentkovichLOT 871970 Topps Scratch-off Carl Yastrzemski (scratched and lightly scored on back)$2PikeElwellLOT 881970 Topps Super lot: #21 Santo and #32 Pinella both have pin holes$2ElwellDelottLOT 891970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 2 6 10 33 42 49 65 80 95 104 112 113 123 162 170 176 - commons mostly vgex, stars vary from gvg -ex$111DeliaCookLOT 901971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot$17ShepardValacakLOT 911971 Topps #26 BlylevenRC, EX$4AshtonHenthornLOT 921971 Topps #630 Clemente, VG except smudge on top border$16DeliaHenthornLOT 931971 Topps Football HOF lot of 8 (Dawson #180, Olsen #125, Page #71, Csonka #45, Karras #41, Taylor #26, Buchanan #13,Butkus #25). G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease)$5GlasserHenthornLOT 941971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+$2no bidsHenthornLOT 951971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one$10CovelloPelletierLOT 961971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners$11ShepardFreedmanLOT 971972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot$12TriplerValacakLOT 981972 Topps #79 Fisk/Cooper RC, G$4ShirleyHenthornLOT 991973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor)$11HenthornGrayLOT 1001973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satch Paige, F.Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold outof Roberto Clemente$175ThayerMorganLOT 1011973 Topps #613 Bob Boone Rookiegvg$5HenthornCookLOT 1021973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+$2GlasserHenthornLOT 1031973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G$3MoletaHenthornLOT 1041973 Topps lot of 20 different Tiptons, guaranteed creases and a couple HOFers$2Rumley-WellsMoletaLOT 1051973 Topps lot of 5 different MISCUTS; you can tell who both cards are$5HenthornMoletaLOT 1061974 Topps lot of 517, with dupes (avg. good)$15ZentkovichGrayLOT 1071974 Topps starter lot, 160cards, no stars, a few dupes, conditions vary$7ZentkovichHutchinsonLOT 1081974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX$2ValacakHenthornLOT 1091975 Topps #228 George Brett RC, VG condition$20AshtonGotoLOT 1101975 Topps #540Lou Brock, EX or better$2ShirleyGotoLOT 1111975 Topps #622 Lynn RC, G/VG$3no bidsHenthornLOT 1121975 Topps lot of 275+, with dupes (poor)$10ZentkovichGrayLOT 1131975 Topps Mini Starter set of 105 different. almost all great shape, EX/MT+, sharp corners etc. No stars, just 2 MVPs$19MillerYudtLOT 1141975 Topps Mini Starter set of 200 different cards. Generally Ex-ExMt.$31HenthornTysverLOT 1151975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 (5 different): 428 438 504 539539 612$1HenthornElwellLOT 1161975-79 Hostess, lot of 40 different, condition all over the place$13DeliaShirleyLOT 117NO LONGER AVAILABLE. APOLOGIES TO ALL AFFECTED BIDDERS.N/AN/AN/ALOT 1181976 SSPC complete set of 630$36PelletierGliddenLOT 1191976 Topps #599 Ron Guidry Rookie ex$5HenthornCookLOT 1201976 Topps PSA-Group - #10 Brock PSA-7 & #199 NL Victory Leaders Seaver PSA-8$10no bidsCookLOT 1211976-79 Hostess 3 complete panels: 1976 #31-32-33,1978 #13-14-15, 1979 #43-44-45$6CraigCookLOT 1221977 Topps complete set from vending case$75ThayerCipraLOT 1231977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+$6LyonsHenthornLOT 1241978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease$10AshtonFreedmanLOT 1251978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+$5no bidsCookLOT 12625 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards$51MorganFittsLOT 127Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card$13GotoFittsLOT 128Baseball Digest - 2 issues. May 1951 Stengel & DiMaggio; January 1953 Robin Roberts$10AshtonMeadLOT 129BOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson$10no bidsD'AngeloLOT 130BOOK: Classic Baseball Cards: The Golden Years 1886-1956, by Frank Slocum. Large coffee table book, blue cover, fair condition$21MorganMeadLOT 131BOOK: Glory of Their Times: The Story of the Early Days of Baseball Told by the Men Who Played It, by Lawrence Ritter. Older TPB, great shape.$4BannonElwellLOT 132BOOK: Great Baseball Revolt: The Rise and Fall ofthe 1890s Players League, by Robert B. Ross$10MeadD'AngeloLOT 133BOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone$10no bidsD'AngeloLOT 134BOOK: One of a Kind: The GeneConley Story, by Kathryn R. Conley, signed by Gene Conley exc. condition$10LabsGalbreathLOT 135BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our own Rob Fitts$14HenthornFittsLOT 136BOOK: Touching All the Bases, by Ned Garver, signed by Garver exc. condition$10MorganGalbreathLOT 137UV: 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto (TTM)$2CraigZentkovichLOT 138UV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL HOCKEY Premier Edition boxed set. 445 cards.$5LyonsSanknerLOT 139UV: 50 cards from your favorite football team, 1980 to present$5AshtonZentkovichLOT 140UV: 75 cards from your favorite baseball team, 1980 to present$1AshtonZentkovichLOT 141UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career HighDevon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T AllStarStitches Verlander jersey, 2013T ChasingHistory Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels$10no bidsCodereLOT 142 new!1933 Goudey #72 Owen Carroll, Brooklyn. Very nice except for some pencil marking on side of his face.$12SilvaMcGowanLOT 143 new!1953 Bowman #21 Joe Garagiola, creases and scraping on front and back$6Rumley-WellsMcGowanLOT 144 new!1953 Bowman #93 Martin/Rizzuto, horizontal creases across front middle of the card$16Rumley-WellsMcGowanLOT 145 new!1953 Bowman B&W lot of six: 6, 19, 22, 47, 55, 62.Creases, stains, 1 is trimmed, but they present well.$16PelletierMcGowanLOT 146 new!2-card Bauer lot: 1954 Bowman #129 (very nice, not OBC grade at all) and 1961 Post (or Jello?) #90, cut poorly on bottom so some life totalsare missing.$6Rumley-WellsMcGowanLOT 147 new!1962 Topps Football #90 FranTarkenton RC, corner torn off, poor/filler shape.$11ArbeenyTysverLOT 148 new!Sal's super lot: 1943MP&Co Stan Hack, 1952T86, 1953T48&50, 1954T159, 1956T280, 1961Fleerx3, 1961T280Howard, 1962T475FordAS, 1965T320Gibson, 1966T172MetsTm, 2016 Nat'l T206 Honus reprint. $21Tipton - and a legitimate bidding war ensues!DominoLOT 149 new!1963 Popsicle Space Cards lot of 8. G-VG except CL poor. 6, 12, 39 John Glenn, 42 Glenn, 44 Glenn, 45 Glenn, 47 Glenn & fam w/ Pres. Kennedy, 55 CL$25CraigTiptonLOT 150 new!One last mystery. Check back later for this one. LOT 999ONE HEARTY HIGH FIVE FOR THE CAUSE (all bidders win this lot; bid accordingly)any6 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing ================= Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:17:57 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, chicod1@aol.com Subject: Re: Net54 OBC Discussion From: Tom Housley The Net54/OBC thread should be found at http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=227462 Tom Housley ================= Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:39:57 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC potential applicant Al Richter From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Yesterday I posted a message about a couple of Net54 members who said they were =E2=9Crejected" by OBC. One of these Net54 members is named Al Richter and is an advanced collector and from my posting on Net54 Al seems to be a great guy and a perfect fit for OBC if he wants to join. I want to encourage Al to apply for OBC, and to make it as easy as possible for him sincehe tried to join years ago. I am willing to sponsor/recommend Al based on his reputation I have witnessed on Net54. I am looking for two other OBC members to recommend Al maybe you have traded with Al Richter or maybe you are familiar with him on Net54 and can recommend him based on his reputation observed on Net54. If I get two additional recommendations I will ask Al ifhe wants to join OBC, and have him list me as sponsor and the other two asrecommendations. For all I know he might not even be interested. The other person who was =E2=9Crejected=E2=9D by OBC back in 2000 hasstated he is not interested in joining OBC. Contact me vis email if you are willing to recommend Al Richter for OBC membership. ================= To: "'LAWRENCE TIPTON'" , Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:58:57 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC potential applicant Al Richter From: "Bob Donaldson" I don=E2=99t think I know Al, but I=E2=99m quite willing to try and trade with him. Feel free to pass along my contact info From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 3:40 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC potential applicant Al Richter Yesterday I posted a message about a couple of Net54 members who said they were =E2=9Crejected" by OBC. One of these Net54 members is named Al Richter and is an advanced collector and from my posting on Net54 Al seems to be a great guy and a perfect fit for OBC if he wants to join. I want to encourage Al to apply for OBC, and to make it as easy as possible for him sincehe tried to join years ago. I am willing to sponsor/recommend Al based on his reputation I have witnessed on Net54. I am looking for two other OBC members to recommend Al maybe you have traded with Al Richter or maybe you are familiar with him on Net54 and can recommend him based on his reputation observed on Net54. If I get two additional recommendations I will ask Al ifhe wants to join OBC, and have him list me as sponsor and the other two asrecommendations. For all I know he might not even be interested. The other person who was =E2=9Crejected=E2=9D by OBC back in 2000 hasstated he is not interested in joining OBC. Contact me vis email if you are willing to recommend Al Richter for OBC membership. ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:07:15 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Give me the WILLIES! (Lots 56 and 69) PICTURES From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:07:45 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Rittenberg Auction From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Can we discuss Lot #100 the Standard Catalog has a listing for 1972 Puerto Rican League Stickers numbered up to 231 I am assuming this is the same set that is offered in Lot #100 as 1973? I know nothing about this set but it appears to be rather scarce and rathervaluable? And it would appear to have been donated by =E2=9Cthe grizzled one=E2=9D himself Howard Morgan? You are missed and greatly loved out here Howard!!! LOT 100 1973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satch Paige, F.Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold out of Roberto Clemente ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:30:52 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 From: LAWRENCE TIPTON http://loveofthegameauctions.com/lot-2872.aspx ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:56:13 -0500 Subject: Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 From: Aaron Shirley Here's some pictorial info from Guru: http://loveofthegameauctions.com/lot-2872.aspx This lot is now even more fascinating! Here is a translation of the Spanish on the Roberto Clemente cover page. "The greatest baseball player from Latin America . [Played for teams in] Santurce, Caguas and San Juan since 1952, when he turned pro. [Played] for eighteen years in the big leagues with the Pittsburgh Pirates, getting four batting championships and 12 Gold Gloves for his outstanding play, and on one occasion being chosen the Most Valuable Baseball Player in the league. Belongs to the exclusive circle of batsmen who have logged 3,000 hits; only eleven players have succeeded. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in a special survey that was done [for him.]" Clemente hit #3,000 on September 29, 1972. Source: http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/3000_hit_club/clemente_roberto.htm So it had to be printed AFTER that. Then he died on Dec 31, 1972 in a plane crash. But the text does NOT mention Then he was not elected to the HOF until March 20th, 1973. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/03.20.html So to have mentioned his HOF election, this set HAD to have been produced in PS: *NOW* how much would you bid? ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Larry Tipton Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:07:42 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 From: Aaron Shirley OH... and the title, UNA FIGURA INOLVIDABLE translates to "AN UNFORGETTABLEFIGURE." I think that was a polite way of referring to his death at a timewhen it was probably still VERY painful news to the people. Check these pics out (not from Howard's lot, from the online pics): To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:56:13 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 Here's some pictorial info from Guru: http://loveofthegameauctions.com/lot-2872.aspx This lot is now even more fascinating! Here is a translation of the Spanish on the Roberto Clemente cover page. "The greatest baseball player from Latin America . [Played for teams in] Santurce, Caguas and San Juan since 1952, when he turned pro. [Played] for eighteen years in the big leagues with the Pittsburgh Pirates, getting four batting championships and 12 Gold Gloves for his outstanding play, and on one occasion being chosen the Most Valuable Baseball Player in the league. Belongs to the exclusive circle of batsmen who have logged 3,000 hits; only eleven players have succeeded. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in a special survey that was done [for him.]" Clemente hit #3,000 on September 29, 1972. Source: http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/3000_hit_club/clemente_roberto.htm So it had to be printed AFTER that. Then he died on Dec 31, 1972 in a plane crash. But the text does NOT mention Then he was not elected to the HOF until March 20th, 1973. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/03.20.html So to have mentioned his HOF election, this set HAD to have been produced in PS: *NOW* how much would you bid? ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:14:40 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Am I the only one From: OBC Nick P Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. Iplayed the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its condition. All were denied. His counter offers were all too high also. He reallydidn't want to negotiate. We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me beingpetty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'dbeen negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the topps Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking theoffer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spenton I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:18:45 -0600 To: OBC Nick P , OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:30:19 -0400 To: illini_grad_90 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: Joel Freedman No time to negotiate! I Buy it or move on. On Friday, August 26, 2016, illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I don't even make offers anymore, except on BST. I can't remember the > last time I bought a card on Ebay, or even looked there...I'm just done > with it. Is there still good stuff? Am I missing out? It just seems like > everything is overpriced and fixed in price. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: 08/26/2016 14:14 (GMT-07:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one > Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. I > played the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I > should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its > condition. All were denied. His counter offers were all too high also. He > really didn't want to negotiate. > We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me being > petty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. > Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'd > been negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey > set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for > roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. > That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! > This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the > topps run!!!! > Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one > who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking the > offer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spent > on it. > I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > ================= To: "'OBC Nick P'" , Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:33:30 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: "Bob Donaldson" I've had minor (1 in 8?) success with making offers on Ebay. Best thing to do is move on like you did. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 4:15 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. I played the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its condition. All were denied. His counter offers were all too high also. He really didn't want to negotiate. We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me being petty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'd been negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the topps run!!!! Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking the offer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spent on I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! Nick Pelletier Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: Bob Donaldson , 'OBC Nick P' , Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 15:40:33 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: JAY TYSVER I've had a bit of success on Best Offers. If Its a lot, I make sure I mention the price per card if its reasonable. Then I check the dealers description as well as pictures and often can negotiate a price based upon the condition. I usually have a set price of what I want to pay for the item. Some dealerstend not to be too negotiable. They may list something for $150 and only want to go down to $145. I usually bid something around 50% or lower and I've had a few bites on those bids. I've found that you have to sell the seller on accepting a lower price. Jay Tysver To: nachobcards@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:33:30 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one Nick I=92ve had minor (1 in 8?) success with making offers on Ebay. Best thing to do is move on like you did. Bob From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 4:15 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. I played the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its condition. All were denied. His counteroffers were all too high also. He really didn't want to negotiate. We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me being petty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'd been negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the topps Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking the offer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spent on I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! Nick Pelletier ================= Date: 26 Aug 2016 13:57:10 -0700 To: Subject: Wonder Bread Football waiver wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 17:19:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: Ken M   I've never thought about thanking a seller for not taking an offer. More often than not, I'll get tired of looking at the same card on my list and break down by 'overpaying', just so I can cross the card off - then I'll inevitably see it three more time for less money and in nicer shape... and sometimes I'll buy those too. I haven't had the luxury of spending money so frivolously for a while though.  If a seller rejects my offer, I move on. If they think they can get more from a less educated collector or someone with more money than brains, power to them. If they can afford to sit on an overpriced and/or overgraded card for months (or in some cases, years), I say let them. I wonder sometimes when I see the same card at the same dealer's table or shop (or relisted on eBay for the 45th time) after a long period of time, if they ever regret not taking my "unreasonable" offer.  Sellers who don't accept *reasonable* offers just aren't making good business decisions. They hav e either overpaid for their inventory or are overvaluing it. Unless something is super hard to find or has a huge demand, asking for every nickel you can squeeze out of your customers is bad business IMHO. A happy customer is a returning customer and a lost sale is lost income.  So Nick, you're not being petty and I admire you for sticking to your guns and not caving at the 1st opportunity that presented itself. I can't say for sure if I would've done the same - and in the end it worked out better for you. It's always best to have a target price for the cards on your list. If you don't see anything near what you want to pay, either keep looking or revisit your target price to see if it's a fair and reasonable price and look some more. Happy hunting, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 4:18 PMTo: OBC Nick P;OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one I don't even make offers anymore, except on BST.  I can't remember the last time I bought a card on Ebay, or even looked there...I'm just done with it.  Is there still good stuff?  Am I missing out?  It just seems like everything is overpriced and fixed in price. Take Care,Geno  Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 08/26/2016 14:14 (GMT-07:00) To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one   Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. I played the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its condition. All were denied. His counter offers were all too high also. He really didn't want to negotiate. We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me being petty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'd been negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the topps run!!!! Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking the offer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spent on it. I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! Nick Pelletier Posted by: illini_grad_90 > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Visit Your Group New Photos 3 • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 18:31:44 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver Wire! From: Jake Brewer I've already scoured OBC for a few hours (and I have 10 packages that will go out Monday already!) let's see if we can make it a few more! Here goes, claim as many as you would like! '55 Topps: 32 '60 Topps: 8, 105, 110 '61 Topps: 12, 13, 31, 33, 54 '63 Topps: 31 '64 Topps: 39, 52, 194, 223 '66 Topps: 24, 141, 178 '67 Topps: 9, 136, 171, 176, 223 '68 Topps: 28 '69 Topps: 38 (x2), 89 Please include your address! -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:10:01 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: Yahoo Nick as you know first hand I have been dealing with this myself. Not to the three dollar extent, but still the same compliant. Why list a card for a price, and then give the option for best offer when your bottom dollar is five or ten dollars less then the price you listed it for. Just list the card for that price and be done with it. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2016, at 17:19, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I've never thought about thanking a seller for not taking an offer. More often than not, I'll get tired of looking at the same card on my list andbreak down by 'overpaying', just so I can cross the card off - then I'll inevitably see it three more time for less money and in nicer shape... and sometimes I'll buy those too. I haven't had the luxury of spending money so frivolously for a while though. > If a seller rejects my offer, I move on. If they think they can get more from a less educated collector or someone with more money than brains, power to them. If they can afford to sit on an overpriced and/or overgraded card for months (or in some cases, years), I say let them. I wonder sometimes when I see the same card at the same dealer's table or shop (or relisted on eBay for the 45th time) after a long period of time, if the y ever regret not taking my "unreasonable" offer. > Sellers who don't accept *reasonable* offers just aren't making good business decisions. They have either overpaid for their inventory or are overvaluing it. Unless something is super hard to find or has a huge demand, asking for every nickel you can squeeze out of your customers is bad businessIMHO. A happy customer is a returning customer and a lost sale is lost income. > So Nick, you're not being petty and I admire you for sticking to your guns and not caving at the 1st opportunity that presented itself. I can't say for sure if I would've done the same - and in the end it worked out better for you. It's always best to have a target price for the cards on your list. If you don't see anything near what you want to pay, either keep looking or revisit your target price to see if it's a fair and reasonable pr ice and look some more. Happy hunting, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Fri, Au g 26, 2016 4:18 PM > To: OBC Nick P;OBC Ramblings; > Cc: > Subject:RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one > I don't even make offers anymore, except on BST. I can't remember the last time I bought a card on Ebay, or even looked there...I'm just done with it. Is there still good stuff? Am I missing out? It just seems like everything is overpriced and fixed in price. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > > Date: 08/26/2016 14:14 (GMT-07:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one > Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. I played the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its condition. All were denied. His count er offers were all too high also. He really didn't want to negotiate. > We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me beingpetty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. > Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'd been negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. > That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! > This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the topps run!!!! > Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking the offer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spenton > I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > Posted by: illini_grad_90 > ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:49:14 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Blue line 62 post Clemente From: Anthony http://www.ebay.com/itm/222226757893?_trksidp2060353.m1431.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:48:45 -0500 To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 From: Aaron Shirley Mike - and others - please make sure you are referencing the big bold RED lot numbers when you email me your bids. Or just use a brief description of what you're bidding on! Thanks! Should have tonight's bids processed here pretty soon... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:44 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Aaron, > I thought this was lot 103. Regardless put me in for a bid of $207 forthe Puerto Rican set from 1973. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC Ramblings ; Larry Tipton > Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 3:08 pm > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 > OH... and the title, UNA FIGURA INOLVIDABLE translates to "AN UNFORGETTABLE FIGURE." I think that was a polite way of referring to his death at a time when it was probably still VERY painful news to the people. > Check these pics out (not from Howard's lot, from the online pics): > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:56:13 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 > Here's some pictorial info from Guru: > http://loveofthegameauctions.com/lot-2872.aspx > This lot is now even more fascinating! > Here is a translation of the Spanish on the Roberto Clemente cover page. > "The greatest baseball player from Latin America . [Played for teams in] Santurce, Caguas and San Juan since 1952, when he turned pro. [Played] for eighteen years in the big leagues with the Pittsburgh Pirates, getting fourbatting championships and 12 Gold Gloves for his outstanding play, and on one occasion being chosen the Most Valuable Baseball Player in the league. Belongs to the exclusive circle of batsmen who have logged 3,000 hits; onlyeleven players have succeeded. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame in a special survey that was done [for him.]" > Clemente hit #3,000 on September 29, 1972. Source: > http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.org/3000_hit_club/clemente_roberto.htm > So it had to be printed AFTER that. > Then he died on Dec 31, 1972 in a plane crash. But the text does NOT mention > Then he was not elected to the HOF until March 20th, 1973. Source: > http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/03.20.html > So to have mentioned his HOF election, this set HAD to have been producedin > Right? > Aaron > PS: *NOW* how much would you bid? > > > > ================= Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:31:16 -0600 To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg Auction Lot #100 From: illini_grad_90 ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:36:41 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG 5 items without opening bids From: Aaron Shirley Hey everyone. Happy Friday night. Here are five items without opening bids for you to consider: LOT 125: 1978 Topps #703 Jack Morris ex+ $5 LOT 129: BOOK: Baseball's Power Shift: How the Players Union, the Fans and the Media Changed American Sports Culture, by Kristen Swanson $10 LOT 133: BOOK: Home Game, by Bret Boone $10 LOT 141: UV lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T All Star Stitches Verlander jersey, 2013T Chasing History Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels $10 LOT 150 new! BUY IT NOW: Rittenberg HOPE necklace... 100 available. Note, this is a BUY IT NOW item. $45 gets one sent right to your mailbox! AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW AND LET GENEROSITY TAKE ITS TIME! Click for the auction spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 01:25:35 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Lot 43 From: Ken M Hi gang,   I donated just this one lot to the auction, mostly due to a lack of time to prepare with other things going on and a profound lack of material that I felt would generate interest (and bids). I am quite pleased that it has been bid up to where it stands now however, particularly since I omitted any kind of grading information - and they're getting bids 'sight unseen'. For the record, the 7 high numbers for the 1960 Leaf set I've donated average about VG. There's some semi-sharp corners, a crease or two and most have some degree of staining. No writing, trimming or any beaters in the lot though.  But wait! There's more! In an effort to generate more bids, I'll add the following cards if the bidding reaches $25 and $50 increments. This will also give me a chance to add in stuff I couldn't donate before. Right now, the lot is at about $50.    If lot 43 reaches $75, I'll add a couple 1973 high #'s 606 (Matthews/Paciorek RC - G/VG) and 613(Boone RC - VG/EX).    More high numbers at 100 bucks. We'll add in a couple VG'ish 1966's: #530 Robin Roberts and #537 Herman Franks.   At $150, I've got a Good 1972 Carew IA #696 and a tipton 1953 #228 Hal Newhouser for the winner. Both are also high numbers.   If you guys aren't done bidding by then, I'll be out of high numbers. But I'll have one more throw in at $200 - a 1968 #280 in G/VG with no creases (or corners). That's The Mick if you're scoring at home. Naturally, I'll take a look at your list before I mail your winnings, but I can't guarantee I'll have any success in hitting it. And who knows, if you guys go really crazy on my lot, I might throw in a mystery card or two :::evil laugh::: Now bid that sucker up! :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 06:04:26 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Am I the only one From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Nick I have had great success with the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D function on eBay. You can tell right away if the seller wants to move the card. Ifthe sellers counter offer is still at a ridiculous level, just refuse the offer and move on. Several times I=E2=99ve thrown out a low offer 50% off price or lower, to see if the seller wants to play, and I=E2=99ve had sellers accept this initial offer! When an =E2=9CeBay Bucks=E2=9D 10Xpromotion is in effect it=E2=99s even better! Use one of the advanced search features to keep from overpaying! 1. After your initial search for an item then click the tab right next to the blue button. 2. In the =E2=9CSearch including=E2=9D area select =E2=9CSold listings=E2=9D 3. click =E2=9CSearch=E2=9D then sort by =E2=9CPrice + shipping lowest This provides a listing of sold items, and it keep can keep you from overpaying, especially when I am closing in on a set. You will be surprised at some of the sales that occur on eBay there are many bargains that somehow slip under the radar. Of course being retired I=E2=99ve got plenty of time to search and play the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D game. ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:02:45 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Am I the only one From: Doug So far, I have had 100% of my first offers accepted, which makes me think Iam clearly doing something wrong! I always put in what I consider a fair price, and probably consciously avoid the sellers who start out asking a greatly inflated price. Don't think I have ever tried offering much more than a 10-20% reduction. I guess I have operated on the premise if they are starting at an unrealistic point I likely won't get them to a reasonable price but perhaps that is the wrong approach. I do that at shows too....if the dealer asks ExMt prices for a G-VG card I just say thanks and move on and don't even try to negotiate. So I am curious, what do most people place as a starting offer - a low balloffer, a percent off the listing, what you are willing to pay, or ....? Sent from my iPad > On Aug 27, 2016, at 6:04 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Nick I have had great success with the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D function on eBay. You can tell right away if the seller wants to move the card. If the sellers counter offer is still at a ridiculous level, just refuse the offer and move on. Several times I=E2=99ve thrown out a low offer 50% off price or lower, to see if the seller wants to play, and I=E2=99ve had sellers accept this initial offer! When an =E2=9CeBay Bucks=E2=9D 10X promotion is in effect it=E2=99s even better! > Use one of the advanced search features to keep from overpaying! > 1. After your initial search for an item then click the tab right next to the blue button. > 2. In the =E2=9CSearch including=E2=9D area select =E2=9CSold listings=E2=9D > 3. click =E2=9CSearch=E2=9D then sort by =E2=9CPrice + shipping lowest > This provides a listing of sold items, and it keep can keep you from overpaying, especially when I am closing in on a set. You will be surprised at some of the sales that occur on eBay there are many bargains that somehow slip under the radar. > Of course being retired I=E2=99ve got plenty of time to search and play the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D game. > Guru ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:10:08 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Am I the only one - Best Offers From: Robert Fitts As a seller on Ebay. here is my advice. I will generally accept offers asking for a 20% discount on most cards. Don=92t ask for 50% off. That just pisses me off and I probably won=92t do business with the person. A low offer like that without a message stating something like =93I=92m looking forthis card at at $X price, would you consider going that low=85=94 is just insulting and suggests that the buyer is not serious. Also don=92t go backand forth, especially on a few dollars.. I hate that. It makes the whole sale On the other hand, I also hate when sellers put a Or Best Offer than then will only give 5% off. 707 Sportcards is probably the worst at this. Theircards are all overpriced with Best Offers and then they only will knock off Nothing like a good rant to get the morning started! ================= To: Doug Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 08:25:01 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Am I the only one From: JAY TYSVER It depends on the item. I approach it two ways. First, if the price is very reasonable to begin with, I'm not going to offer 50%, but a reasonable price. For example, There were the two different 1954 Ted Williams Topps cards in G to G/Vg condition being offered for $75. Going to $37.50 for both would clearly be insane. I believe I offered $60 and it i was accepted. Second if it is a larger lot or for some reason the person gives clues thatthey are an eager seller, I will offer 50% tops. If they accept, its gravy. If they move closer to my end of the deal, it tells me they are willing to sell. If they don't, I tend to feel they are pretty much seeking close tothe value they have it listed as. As an example, there was a nice 1975 Topps Mini part set (with Brett and Yount) of 630 different cards being listed at $200. I offered $100 and the guy accepted it. I didn't really expect that offer to be taken, but it was basically opening up the negotiating. If I am curious about how eager a seller is, I will look at the other itemsthey are selling. If they have really good prices, I'll see that they are eager to sell. If they have a rating of about 300 positives or so, they maybe seeking to liquidate quickly to raise cash. Also, read some of the descriptions. Sometimes what seems like a line of bull is not a line of bull. There realistically can be a divorcee who is seeking to sell her hubby's cards. As an example of this, I was able to get a lot of about 600 1966s with all of the key cards (Mantle, Aaron etc.) and many of the high cards in Ex -ExMt. for $200. The lower numbers and non-stars had some warping, but the key cards were all in good shape. I have noticed from time to time that there are dealers who deal mostly in newer stuff who have no interest in vintage. They will sell lots or key cards for really good prices simply because they don't link up quickly with any buyers in their shops. In other words, they pretty much don't know vintage at all. What you need to remember is that if you make a best offer, it essentially is opening a negotiation. Bidding 50% or lower is merely an opening bid. I don't always expect someone to accept my initial offer and I am curious as to what their reply is. Jay Tysver CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: larrytipton@windstream.net From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:02:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Am I the only one So far, I have had 100% of my first offers accepted, which makes me think Iam clearly doing something wrong! I always put in what I consider a fair price, and probably consciously avoid the sellers who start out asking a greatly inflated price. Don't think I have ever tried offering much more than a 10-20% reduction. I guess I have operated on the premise if they are starting at an unrealistic point I likely won't get them to a reasonable price but perhaps that is the wrong approach. I do that at shows too....if the dealer asks ExMt prices for a G-VG card I just say thanks and move on and don't even try to negotiate. So I am curious, what do most people place as a starting offer - a low balloffer, a percent off the listing, what you are willing to pay, or ....? Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2016, at 6:04 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Nick I have had great success with the =93Make Offer=94 function on eBay. You can tell right away if the seller wants to move the card. If the sellers counter offer is still at a ridiculous level, just refuse the offer and move on. Several times I=92ve thrown out a low offer 50% off price or lower, to see if the seller wants to play, and I=92ve had sellers accept this initial offer! When an =93eBay Bucks=94 10X promotion is in effect it=92seven Use one of the advanced search features to keep from overpaying! 1. After your initial search for an item then click the tab right next to the blue button. 2. In the =93Search including=94 area select =93Sold listings=94 3. click =93Search=94 then sort by =93Price + shipping lowest first=94 This provides a listing of sold items, and it keep can keep you from overpaying, especially when I am closing in on a set. You will be surprised at some of the sales that occur on eBay there are many bargains that somehow slip under the radar. Of course being retired I=92ve got plenty of time to search and play the =93Make Offer=94 game. ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 09:33:31 -0400 To: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Am I the only one From: Mike Glasser If I'm buying a large lot from a seller with lots of cards, I'll pay full price on most but then ask for 50% off on a few instead of nickel and diningevery card. I buy lots of non sport tobacco cards that don't have as clear a value so maybe that makes a difference. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD 21152 > On Aug 27, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > So far, I have had 100% of my first offers accepted, which makes me thinkI am clearly doing something wrong! I always put in what I consider a fair price, and probably consciously avoid the sellers who start out asking a greatly inflated price. Don't think I have ever tried offering much more than a 10-20% reduction. I guess I have operated on the premise if they are starting at an unrealistic point I likely won't get them to a reasonable price but perhaps that is the wrong approach. I do that at shows too....ifthe dealer asks ExMt prices for a G-VG card I just say thanks and move on and don't even try to negotiate. > So I am curious, what do most people place as a starting offer - a low ball offer, a percent off the listing, what you are willing to pay, or ....? > Doug > Sent from my iPad >> On Aug 27, 2016, at 6:04 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Nick I have had great success with the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D function on eBay. You can tell right away if the seller wants to move the card.If the sellers counter offer is still at a ridiculous level, just refuse the offer and move on. Several times I=E2=99ve thrown out a low offer 50%off price or lower, to see if the seller wants to play, and I=E2=99ve had sellers accept this initial offer! When an =E2=9CeBay Bucks=E2=9D 10X promotion is in effect it=E2=99s even better! >> Use one of the advanced search features to keep from overpaying! >> 1. After your initial search for an item then click the tab right next to the blue button. >> 2. In the =E2=9CSearch including=E2=9D area select =E2=9CSold listings=E2=9D >> 3. click =E2=9CSearch=E2=9D then sort by =E2=9CPrice + shippinglowest >> This provides a listing of sold items, and it keep can keep you from overpaying, especially when I am closing in on a set. You will be surprised atsome of the sales that occur on eBay there are many bargains that somehow slip under the radar. >> Of course being retired I=E2=99ve got plenty of time to search and play the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D game. >> Guru ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:10:35 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waivers From: Anthony Scored some obc style cards wanted to share 1964 topps#402, 1970 topps #502 fingers,526,66 Jackson 1968 topps #364 Morgan,350 wilhelm 1961 topps #511,513 1975 #622 Lynn rc 1960 topps #164,413,518,370 showron 1972 topps 132 Morgan ,776 1971 topps #633,726,605 cepeda,721 1968 football #215 Let me know Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 11:18:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waivers revised#1 From: Anthony Seems several are off this morning and picked some off the list. Below is revised Scored some obc style cards wanted to share 1970 topps #526 1968 topps #364 Morgan,350 wilhelm 1961 topps #511 1975 #622 Lynn rc 1960 topps #164,413 1972 topps 132 Morgan 1971 topps #633,726,721 1968 football #215 Let me know Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 11:52:08 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waivers revised#2 From: Anthony Seems several are off this morning and picked some off the list. Below is revised Scored some obc style cards wanted to share 1970 topps #526 1968 topps #364 Morgan,350 wilhelm 1975 #622 Lynn rc 1960 topps #164,413 1972 topps 132 Morgan 1971 topps #633 1968 football #215 Let me know Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 12:13:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waivers revised#3 From: Anthony Seems several are off this morning and picked some off the list. Below is revised Scored some obc style cards wanted to share 1970 topps #526 1968 topps #350 wilhelm 1975 #622 Lynn rc 1960 topps #164,413 1972 topps 132 Morgan 1971 topps #633 1968 football #215 Let me know Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 12:35:12 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Am I the only one From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en It really depends on the card for me. I have had a pretty good amount of success with making offers. Sometimes we haggle back and forth. I look at the things Larry said, previous sales. I look at condition and what I want to pay for that particular card. If I make what seems to be a ridiculously low offer (either because the condition warrants it, or his starting price is just insanely high), I write in the notes "the reason for this offer is-- card has bad corners, I see a surface crease on his face, etc". I always sign my note at the end with Sal (OBC)-- every once in a while it helps out, as a few dealers know who we are. Be nice about your offer, thank them for the consideration of that offer. I had one guy I always made offers to on OPC Mets. Super nice guy. After winning a few, I put an offer in for a 75 OPC Seaver. He comes back to my offer with "This one's on me!. Don't be afraid that you might "insult" the guy. Worst that will happen is he ignores you or rejects it and you move on. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take! Some guys are just idiots, we know that. A majority are fair. Remember, you have a better shot of hitting your number with honey than with vinegar! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 No need to put a quote here, I already used a few! In a message dated 8/27/2016 9:02:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: So far, I have had 100% of my first offers accepted, which makes me think I am clearly doing something wrong! I always put in what I consider a fair price, and probably consciously avoid the sellers who start out asking a greatly inflated price. Don't think I have ever tried offering much more than a 10-20% reduction. I guess I have operated on the premise if they are starting at an unrealistic point I likely won't get them to a reasonable price but perhaps that is the wrong approach. I do that at shows too....if the dealer asks ExMt prices for a G-VG card I just say thanks and move on and don't even try to negotiate. So I am curious, what do most people place as a starting offer - a low ball offer, a percent off the listing, what you are willing to pay, or ....? Sent from my iPad On Aug 27, 2016, at 6:04 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON _larrytipton@windstream.net_ (mailto:larrytipton@windstream.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Nick I have had great success with the =E2=9CMake Offer=E2=9D function on eBay. You can tell right away if the seller wants to move the card. If the sellers counter offer is still at a ridiculous level, just refuse the offer and move on. Several times I=E2=99ve thrown out a low offer 50% off price or lower, see if the seller wants to play, and I=E2=99ve had sellers accept this initial offer! When an =E2=9CeBay Bucks=E2=9D 10X promotion is in effect it=E2=99s even better! Use one of the advanced search features to keep from overpaying! 1. After your initial search for an item then click the tab right next to the blue button. 2. In the =E2=9CSearch including=E2=9D area select =E2=9CSold listings=E2=9D 3. click =E2=9CSearch=E2=9D then sort by =E2=9CPrice + shipping lowest This provides a listing of sold items, and it keep can keep you from overpaying, especially when I am closing in on a set. You will be surprised some of the sales that occur on eBay there are many bargains that somehow slip under the radar. Of course being retired I=E2=99ve got plenty of time to search and playthe Make Offer=E2=9D game. ================= Date: 27 Aug 2016 14:07:03 -0700 To: Subject: Hello OBC!! Deepest Apologies. From: lucifer33323@yahoo.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:42:17 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction weekend edition From: Aaron Shirley Hey, you should spend a little time this weekend bidding! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & WATCH THE TOTALS RISE! I know you love lists. Here are two to check out. First, : TEN HIGHEST BIDS: LOT 100 1973 Puerto Rican set $251 LOT 89 1970-71 Topps Basketball near set $111 LOT 126 25 diff vintage JAPANESE cards $ 96 LOT 122 1977 Topps complete set from vend case $ 75 LOT 4 1911 T205 Christy Mathewson $ 66 LOT 24 1952 Topps #345 Sam White, high# $ 53 LOT 27 1954 Topps #201 Kaline RC $ 53 LOT 40 1959 Topps 100 different grey backs $ 51 LOT 43 1960 Leaf high number lot of 7 $ 51 LOT 60 1963 Topps #200 Mickey Mantle $ 51 Now we all know not everyone is working with the same budget. So what aboutthis? THE LOW END: LOT 31 1958 Topps #479 Nellie Fox AS $1 LOT 38 1959 Topps #547 Jim Baxes $2 LOT 48 1961 Topps Magic Rub-Off Senators $1 LOT 71 1967 Topps #215 Ernie Banks $2 LOT 76 1968 Topps #45 Tom Seaver $2 LOT 78 1969 Topps #208 Clendenon Houston $2 LOT 87 1970 Topps Scratch-off Yastrzemski $2 LOT 94 1971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Lucas $2 LOT 102 1973 Topps Football #280 Greene $2 LOT 104 1973 Topps lot of 20 diff $2 LOT 108 1974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Esposito AS $2 LOT 110 1975 Topps #540 Brock $2 LOT 115 1975 Topps Mini, lot of 6 $1 LOT 137 1989 Donruss Alan Trammell auto $2 LOT 140 75 cards from your baseball team, 1980+ $1 Thanks for looking ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 22:47:13 +0000 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Exhibits "choose ten" lot (#15-17) details for RITTENBERG auction From: Matthew Glidden A few have asked for details on my Exhibits, so they can bid accordingly. In the interest of kicking interest up a notch, here's my plan for these three 10-card lots. The TOP BIDDER of the three lots gets FIRST TEN CHOICES off the list below. SECOND WINNER gets NEXT TEN CHOICES off my list. THIRD WINNER get NEXT TEN CHOICES. Will do my best to list everything you're choosing from and remember I'm not well-versed in their variations, so ask if you need more info. :-) These are all BLANK BACK, no stats. D. DiMaggio Al Evans Reese (no ball) Frankie Thomas 1949 Dodgers 1952 Dodgers 1956 Dodgers Assume OBC grade on these guys and be pleasantly surprised if they're VG-EX instead. Good luck! On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:15 AM Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey guys. A lot of you have said "If there is anything I can do to help > let me know." Well, there is. > *START TALKING ABOUT THIS AUCTION.*Post something about the cards you're > donating. Or post about that awesome card you saw so-and-so added. Email > some guys in the group directly about "Hey did you see the T205 Matty? > Thought you'd like it." Include this link in all your emails: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?usp=sharing ================= Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 17:51:46 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: auction hype From: OBC Nick P It's time to hype up some auctions.... Lots 95 and lot 96 specifically....the two 1971-2 topps gordie Howe. The only duplicated item in the auction. Bidding currently sits at $10 and $11. I'm hyping up both items. If bidding does NOT HIT $20 I will be throwing in some additional hits....lower bids for more cards you ask??? SKINNED AND TRIMMEDS!!! The worst of the worst....so poor even Guru himself had to upgrade from these cards. Not just poor, SUPER POOR!!!! Less than Tipton gem mint! Thesemight score a 27 on the GGS. I will not withdraw this threat, or promise, until bidding hits $25. Bid on! Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:23:05 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Rittenberg update From: Steve Rittenberg Hi all. I don't often post updates on Ramblings because this is so overwhelming and all encompassing for me. I know I need support but I don't want to drown out everything else that everyone else has going I'm not sure where to begin. I suppose some background might help for those who don't the story. My wife, Gina, was diagnosed with a form of leukemia about a year ago. She received chemotherapy at home. When that was not sufficient, we drove 800 miles from Alabama to the MD Anderson Cancer in Houston (top rated in the world) for more intensive chemotherapy. Those five weeks (late March thru early May) were very long ones but Gina pulled through without any complications from the treatment beyond the typical nausea. We were sent home in May for a break before the next round. To say this round has been rough is an understatement. Outpatient chemotherapy started out ok. Gina was able to go home and even go out for an even while she had a pack strapped to her. But soon the effects of the treatment set in and she was hospitalized on May 27. She was not breathing well. By June 1, she could not breathe at all and was moved to the intensive care unit where a tube was inserted to help her breath. The tube was in for about 5 weeks. Longer than expected because of complications from the treatment. Her stomach stopped working and became dangerously distended. She couldn't eat so she was fed intravenously. That plus the antibiotics, sedation, pain medication and everything else caused fluid overload. Her legs were so bloated they were painful. Now its been nearly 13 weeks and this background seems nearly as long. It's easy to get lost in the details. Gina begs to come home. Her parents have made that the priority. We've been working at that but there have been numerous setbacks. Pneumonia twice and other serious issues. If things work out, we will move her to a long-term acute care hospital in Alabama. I think she will be in there for a while. She still cannot breathe on her own. She needs help to sit up. She has not stood up since June 1. Again, I'm drifting into too much detail so it's time to stop here and move on. If you want to follow the story in more detail, I write a couple of pages every 2 or 3 days and post it on Facebook, CaringBridge blog (https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg) or email. Ask if you'd like to join the email mailing list. The transfer home will be via an air ambulance. Cost is $12,000. I've been renting an apartment locally. It's an incredible deal at $1,200 per month for a furnished apartment complete with cable, internet and utilities. But the cost is adding up. Five months now in Houston. Fortunately we have good health insurance though Gina is now on Leave Without Pay so I pay the full premium out of pocket. Aaron Shirley (among others) talked me into accepting help in the form of an auction. I'll write more about the auction shortly. Thank you all. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:56:56 -0400 To: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: Steve God bless you and your family. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Aug 28, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi all. I don't often post updates on Ramblings because this is so > overwhelming and all encompassing for me. I know I need support but I > don't want to drown out everything else that everyone else has going > on. > I'm not sure where to begin. I suppose some background might help for > those who don't the story. My wife, Gina, was diagnosed with a form > of leukemia about a year ago. She received chemotherapy at home. > When that was not sufficient, we drove 800 miles from Alabama to the > MD Anderson Cancer in Houston (top rated in the world) for more > intensive chemotherapy. Those five weeks (late March thru early May) > were very long ones but Gina pulled through without any complications > from the treatment beyond the typical nausea. We were sent home in > May for a break before the next round. > To say this round has been rough is an understatement. Outpatient > chemotherapy started out ok. Gina was able to go home and even go out > for an even while she had a pack strapped to her. But soon the > effects of the treatment set in and she was hospitalized on May 27. > She was not breathing well. By June 1, she could not breathe at all > and was moved to the intensive care unit where a tube was inserted to > help her breath. The tube was in for about 5 weeks. Longer than > expected because of complications from the treatment. Her stomach > stopped working and became dangerously distended. She couldn't eat > so she was fed intravenously. That plus the antibiotics, sedation, > pain medication and everything else caused fluid overload. Her legs > were so bloated they were painful. > Now its been nearly 13 weeks and this background seems nearly as long. > It's easy to get lost in the details. Gina begs to come home. Her > parents have made that the priority. We've been working at that but > there have been numerous setbacks. Pneumonia twice and other serious > issues. If things work out, we will move her to a long-term acute > care hospital in Alabama. I think she will be in there for a while. > She still cannot breathe on her own. She needs help to sit up. She > has not stood up since June 1. Again, I'm drifting into too much > detail so it's time to stop here and move on. > If you want to follow the story in more detail, I write a couple of > pages every 2 or 3 days and post it on Facebook, CaringBridge blog > (https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg) or email. Ask if > you'd like to join the email mailing list. > The transfer home will be via an air ambulance. Cost is $12,000. > I've been renting an apartment locally. It's an incredible deal at > $1,200 per month for a furnished apartment complete with cable, > internet and utilities. But the cost is adding up. Five months now > in Houston. Fortunately we have good health insurance though Gina is > now on Leave Without Pay so I pay the full premium out of pocket. > Aaron Shirley (among others) talked me into accepting help in the form > of an auction. I'll write more about the auction shortly. > Thank you all. > Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: 28 Aug 2016 18:50:51 -0700 To: Subject: Brooks Robby RC card rant... From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= To: , Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:31:15 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Brooks Robby RC card rant... From: "Grant Rainsley" Good call! I=E2=99m after that one myself, but not gonna get silly aboutit=E2=A6=E2=A6..are there any of us that haven=E2=99t had Brooks and Sandy as our toughies?? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:51 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Brooks Robby RC card rant... So, I am not one to post on this server, actually this is my first time. But this damn Brooks RC is worthy of a post! I was at a small time show in Houston yesterday and I was talking to a dealer that happened to have a Brooks Robby RC in his showcase. I need 2 cards to finish the 57 Topps set and Brooks is one of them, along with Mr Koufax... So he has a Brooks RC that is just super nice, this card has no flaws it is even centered perfectly,I wish it did have issues because this dealer doesn't value his stuff under VG. He has a price that is above the high book value, marked $550. So hesays to me he thinks this card will grade at a 7, I am thinking this card that has a dog ear would be a solid 4, maybe even a 5, but less than $200. Now, I can count the graded cards I have on 2 fingers, and those were justby chance. So, a graded card has zero value to me, other than the price tag that comes along with it... I tell him to get that card graded, like healluded to, and let me know when it comes out... He blurts out how about $250? I have never paid that much for 1 card, so I say no thanks... Even though, I think that card is probably worth that much... I leave it at that and thank him for selling me a bunch of other things and walk away... Then I walk to the back of the room and see another dealer that has a Brooks RC is his case. This card presents nicely and I ask him to take a look. When he pulls the card out of case I am thrilled!! Is has 2 creases and abunch of chipping on the edges. I ask him what he wants for the card. Hesays $250, I say that that would mean the card is in EX-Mt shape. He asksme what I think the card would grade, I told him a 2 due to the flaws I pointed out to him. He tells me that it is a tough card , which I know, and blah, Sorry, for the rant, but I wish dealers would value their cards where they should be valued... I do understand paying a premium for a card like the Brooks RC, but I thought it was interesting that the one guy who had a very very nice card was at $250 and the guy across the room with a much much lower grade card was also at $250. Needless to say, I did not check off Brooks RC yesterday... I will continue to look for a Brooks RC that is in the VG range, and I knowit will come along one day in my price range... Nate Mack ================= Date: 29 Aug 2016 15:13:20 -0700 To: Subject: New (and Old) sets added From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 20:15:16 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: End of Season Ramble From: Jake Brewer Well here's probably my first "life" ramble as a part of OBC! Our season ended earlier this month for the Gastonia Grizzlies. We didnt make the playoffs for the first time in nearly a decade- but what is important is that we had a great year attendance and revenue-wise, top 20 in the country for Summer League baseball (which is actually a down year for us, butgood Our sister team (the Savannah Bananas, that we also own) won the CPL Championship in their first year of existence, and were second in the country in attendance! MOST importantly though, ya boy had a great year in sales for our Memberships, nearly double what thy were in 2015. I got a nice 25% raise. Yes that'spercent :) Excited I'll be entering my 4th season with the Grizzlies (3rd full-time). That means two things: A slight increase in my card budget, AND I sent out 10+ RAOK's today :) So keep an eye on your mailboxes, I'll be hitting several of your lists soon! -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 29 Aug 2016 17:16:42 -0700 To: Subject: Re: New (and Old) sets added From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 22:15:13 -0700 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one From: Rick I have a story about a seller not taking the offer. I have been secretly spending Marshall West's money on 62 topps Venezuelans. I still want to beat him on being the first one to finish a Venezuelan set but that's another story. I pointed out to him there was a Koufax on eBay graded an one so I told him to take a stab at a low offer. He used all three offers to have all automatic rejected. He said he would probably pay full price ($200) cause hereally wanted the card. I told him let me make some offers to see if you can save a little money. I offered $140 auto rejected then I offered $160 tohave it say pending so I was thinking that was probably a fair price for avery tough card. I was beating the bushes trying to find him the few cards he needed to finish the set and started talking to a guy who had the Koufax and brooks Robinson. It was looking promising so I was thinking should I hurry and cancel my offer before it gets accepted. Before I could cancel he came back with a counter at $175. I had a sigh of relief because I thought I could get it cheaper from this other guy and I would of just spend $160 of marshall's money. The story ends pretty good with getting both cards for $100 and getting himdown to three cards and I have one set down to four and one down to five. I'm still going to try and beat him to a finished set as I look to spend more of his money. I thought the $160 was a fair offer but his counter offer costed him a saledon't know if he regrets the counter because I just rejected it with no counter of my own. We were within $15 of a deal for a $175 card and was able to walk away to get it cheaper and get two cards! Rick Sent from my iPad > On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:19 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I've never thought about thanking a seller for not taking an offer. More often than not, I'll get tired of looking at the same card on my list andbreak down by 'overpaying', just so I can cross the card off - then I'll inevitably see it three more time for less money and in nicer shape... and sometimes I'll buy those too. I haven't had the luxury of spending money so frivolously for a while though. > If a seller rejects my offer, I move on. If they think they can get more from a less educated collector or someone with more money than brains, power to them. If they can afford to sit on an overpriced and/or overgraded card for months (or in some cases, years), I say let them. I wonder sometimes when I see the same card at the same dealer's table or shop (or relisted on eBay for the 45th time) after a long period of time, if the y ever regret not taking my "unreasonable" offer. > Sellers who don't accept *reasonable* offers just aren't making good business decisions. They have either overpaid for their inventory or are overvaluing it. Unless something is super hard to find or has a huge demand, asking for every nickel you can squeeze out of your customers is bad businessIMHO. A happy customer is a returning customer and a lost sale is lost income. > So Nick, you're not being petty and I admire you for sticking to your guns and not caving at the 1st opportunity that presented itself. I can't say for sure if I would've done the same - and in the end it worked out better for you. It's always best to have a target price for the cards on your list. If you don't see anything near what you want to pay, either keep looking or revisit your target price to see if it's a fair and reasonable pr ice and look some more. Happy hunting, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Fri, Au g 26, 2016 4:18 PM > To: OBC Nick P;OBC Ramblings; > Cc: > Subject:RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one > I don't even make offers anymore, except on BST. I can't remember the last time I bought a card on Ebay, or even looked there...I'm just done with it. Is there still good stuff? Am I missing out? It just seems like everything is overpriced and fixed in price. > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > > Date: 08/26/2016 14:14 (GMT-07:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Am I the only one > Not long ago I found a card I needed listed in eBay as an or best offer. I played the chess match of making offers or what I want to spend, what I should spend, and a more than reasonable number for the card and its condition. All were denied. His count er offers were all too high also. He really didn't want to negotiate. > We didn't make a deal because of $3. We ended up $3 apart. Is it me beingpetty? Maybe, but I think my offers were more than fair. > Today I was talking with another seller not on eBay. I bought the card I'd been negotiating for plus a couple more. As a result, my 1966 topps hockey set will be complete. Breaking down the purchase, I got the card for roughly my initial offer to the eBay card. > That's a set I never thought I would complete and its going to bed. Done! > This purchase also puts me over the 99% complete mark on my version of the topps run!!!! > Back to my subject line....when this situation comes up, am I the only one who thinks of contacting the eBay seller and thank them for not taking the offer? I got my card at my price and saved money from what I almost spenton > I see the humor in not making the deal. Things always work out in the end! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > Posted by: illini_grad_90 > ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:47:34 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction update - final week From: Aaron Shirley Hey, it's kind of a busy week as I plan to get out of town for a long weekend. Trying to get updates out there in a timely manner. Thanks for your patience. AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & AVOID THE RUSH! The auction lots are listed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Keep up to date on the REASON we're doing all this with Steve & Gina's CaringBridge https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg Today's spotlight is on our INTERNATIONAL contingent. Some real gems in this bunch, folks! LOT 65 1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor. $8 LOT 84 1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot. $15 LOT 90 1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot. $17 LOT 97 1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot. $12 LOT 99 1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor). $13 LOT 100 1973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Mike Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satchel Paige, Frank Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold out of Roberto Clemente. LOT 124 1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease. LOT 126 25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards. $96 LOT 127 Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card. $13 LOT 135 BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our very own Rob Fitts. $14 But wait! These next three lots will be coming across the ocean (from Scotland), so that kind of qualifies as international, doesn't it? Bid these up and make it worth Glenn shipping these out! LOT 42 1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC. $8 LOT 57 1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex). LOT 141 UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T All Star Stitches Verlander jersey, 2013T Chasing History Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels. $10 That's enough from me for today. Email me your bids at UTHMINSTA at HOTMAILdot COM and I will process them in the order they are received. ================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:29:06 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Do you think there is a Maris in this lot? From: Ken M An educated guess is that if they mentioned Lemon, Wynn and Colavito, then Maris isn't included. It would be quite a steal (and major laziness and/or a big mistake by the seller) if he didn't point out a Maris though. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2016 7:03 PMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Do you think there is a Maris in this lot?  So I won a 1957 Sohio Indians lot on evil bay today--they show a Colavito "card" and mention that there are nine of them with Lemon and Wynn.  So any bets on whether a 1957 Maris is included?  price was all of $9.99 + $5 shipping.  There is some tape residue on Colavito. http://www.ebay.com/itm/232057789477?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Hoping I have another ebay "steal."  I will let you all know when it arrives. peter mead ================= Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:33:37 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC Subject: 1949 Set Completed From: Stamper I have been sitting at two cards to go on the 1949 MP and Co set. It's a small set with 25 cards and at least one variation, which i have. It has somebig names...DiMaggio and Williams are the biggies and I picked them up early on. I was looking for Feller and Foxx. I found Feller in a lot on eBay that had seven cards, including Williams (which i had) and the listing namedonly Dark and Evers. I picked it up cheap! After that I was down to justthe unnumbered Foxx. I've only seen one on eBay and it is listed about $200. And nothing else coming up. So I decided to look at the 1943 MP Co listings of Foxx and there it was with a BIN that was close enough for what I was willing to pay. Both the 43 and 49 are unnumbered so there can be some confusion. It arrived yesterday and it is a 49. Set is now complete!! John Stamper ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 01:08:16 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG auction late nite update From: Aaron Shirley Hey again. I'll be taking the remaining days of the auction and looking at clever ways to give you a SLICE of the auction to consider. How about everything but baseball? LOT 82 1969-70 Topps Basketball #35 Elgin Baylor G/VG $12 LOT 89 1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 16 commons. Mostly VGEX, stars vary from G/VG-EX $111 LOT 94 1971-72 Topps Basketball #81 Jerry Lucas, EX+ $2 LOT 147 1962 Topps Football #90 Fran Tarkenton RC, corner torn off, poor/filler shape. $11 LOT 86 1970 Topps Football #70 Sayers Bears VGEX 25.00bv $11 LOT 93 1971 Topps Football lot of 8 HOF: 13 Buchanan, 25 Butkus, 26 Taylor, 41 Karras, 45 Csonka, 71 Page, 125 Olsen, 180 Dawson. G/VG; Butkus is F (serious crease) $5 LOT 102 1973 Topps Football #280 Joe Greene, VG+ $2 LOT 103 1973 Topps Football $475 Roger Staubach, F/G $3 LOT 123 1977 Topps Football HOF lot of 6 (Lambert #480, Upshaw $415, Fouts #274, Swann #195, Ham #140, Moseley #91), average VG+ $8 LOT 66 1965 Coke Hockey George Armstrong Maple Leafs EX $5 LOT 77 1968-69 Topps Hockey group of 28 different - OBC grade, some better LOT 95 1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number one $10 LOT 96 1971-72 Topps Hockey #70 Gordie Howe number two VG, one minor crease, nice corners $11 LOT 108 1974-75 Topps Hockey #129 Phil Esposito AS, EX $2 LOT 42 1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot w/ problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC $8 LOT 45 1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag - baseball x17, football x13, basketball x4 $11 NONSPORT STUFF LOT 3 1910 T218 lot of 3 aviators: Hamilton, Hoxsey, Moisant. VG/EX. $21 LOT 10 1933 Goudey Indian Gum wrapper. OBC shape $15 LOT 13 1938 Horrors of War wrapper. OBC shape $16 LOT 149 1963 Popsicle Space Cards lot of 8. 6, 12, 39 John Glenn, 42 Glenn, 44 Glenn, 45 Glenn, 47 Glenn & fam w/ Pres. Kennedy, 55 CL. G-VG except CL poor. $25 LOT 80 1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue starter set, 14 different G-VG. 8A 22A 25A 27A 28A 31A 32A 34A 35A 37B 43B 48B 49B 50B $15 For full listings CLICK HERE: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Steve & Gina's CaringBridge blog: https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg So, bidder... what piques your interest? Send me a bid! AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. ================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:07:02 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: The Rittenberg Auction, Lot 45 A very fine vintage From: chris tripler Just wanted to sweeten the "odd-ball" grab bag lot... the lot includes*2, 1947-66 Exhibits in VG-EX pinholes, Evers & Cooper*1955Red Man #AL5 Bob Grimm, OBC condition*1971 Topps Super #28 in EX-EX+ condition (I bought a huge pile from Mike McGann at National, and there were about 4 of these in the pile...and yes, Mike practically sold them to me for the price of the paper).*and a random stack of 50's to 70's that include an OBC '74 Blue CL, '61 Fleer, several '70s Posts, a short stack of OPC late 70's includes Johnny Bench... And I'm just going to throw in a ton more stuff, off the top of my head...acouple of 70's RC cans...I'll find many more...the higher the bid...the more I'll find...have fun, OBC!!! Remember it's for one of our own! OBC 2015 ================= To: Aaron Shirley , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:05:22 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction update - final week From: JAY TYSVER Will someone bid at minimum $24 on Lot 111- Fred Lynn RC G/VG. I bid $25 on it and want to at minimum see this card go for $25. Another bid will push my bid up to $25. If you are even crazier, bid higher than me on it. Jay Tysver To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com; obc-ac@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:47:34 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction update - final week Hey, it's kind of a busy week as I plan to get out of town for a long weekend. Trying to get updates out there in a timely manner. Thanks for your patience. AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & AVOID THE RUSH! The auction lots are listed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Keep up to date on the REASON we're doing all this with Steve & Gina's CaringBridge https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg Today's spotlight is on our INTERNATIONAL contingent. Some real gems in this bunch, folks! LOT 65 1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor. $8 LOT 84 1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot. $15 LOT 90 1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot. $17 LOT 97 1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot. $12 LOT 99 1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor). $13 LOT 100 1973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Mike Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satchel Paige, Frank Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold out of Roberto Clemente. LOT 124 1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease. LOT 126 25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards. $96 LOT 127 Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card. $13 LOT 135 BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our very own Rob Fitts. $14 But wait! These next three lots will be coming across the ocean (from Scotland), so that kind of qualifies as international, doesn't it? Bid these up and make it worth Glenn shipping these out! LOT 42 1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC. $8 LOT 57 1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex). LOT 141 UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T All Star Stitches Verlander jersey, 2013T Chasing History Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels. $10 That's enough from me for today. Email me your bids at UTHMINSTA at HOTMAILdot COM and I will process them in the order they are received. ================= To: Aaron Shirley , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:28:14 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction update - From: JAY TYSVER I have upped my bid to $50 on Lot 111- Fred Lynn RC G/VG since someone bid me up to my $25. Does anyone wish to go over that? This is for the cause! Jay Tysver To: uthminsta@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com; From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:05:22 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction update - final Will someone bid at minimum $24 on Lot 111- Fred Lynn RC G/VG. I bid $25 on it and want to at minimum see this card go for $25. Another bid will push my bid up to $25. If you are even crazier, bid higher than me on it. Jay Tysver To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com; obc-ac@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 14:47:34 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] RITTENBERG auction update - final week Hey, it's kind of a busy week as I plan to get out of town for a long weekend. Trying to get updates out there in a timely manner. Thanks for your patience. AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW & AVOID THE RUSH! The auction lots are listed here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing Keep up to date on the REASON we're doing all this with Steve & Gina's CaringBridge https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg Today's spotlight is on our INTERNATIONAL contingent. Some real gems in this bunch, folks! LOT 65 1964 Venezuelan Topps #352 Bressoud Red Sox poor. $8 LOT 84 1970 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot. $15 LOT 90 1971 O-Pee-Chee, 25 card lot. $17 LOT 97 1972 O-Pee-Chee, 20 card lot. $12 LOT 99 1973 O-Pee-Chee lot of 83, all different (poor). $13 LOT 100 1973 Puerto Rican complete card set feat Mike Schmidt PRE-rookie, Satchel Paige, Frank Robinson and many other stars destined for MLB careers. Mint condition with binder for pasting and fold out of Roberto Clemente. LOT 124 1978 O-Pee-Chee #154 Eddie Murray RC VG, fuzzy corners, no crease. LOT 126 25 card lot of vintage JAPANESE cards. $96 LOT 127 Autographed Masanori Murakami cabinet card. $13 LOT 135 BOOK: Remembering Japanese Baseball, 2005 book by our very own Rob Fitts. $14 But wait! These next three lots will be coming across the ocean (from Scotland), so that kind of qualifies as international, doesn't it? Bid these up and make it worth Glenn shipping these out! LOT 42 1959-67 Topps "Downgrade" lot with lotsa problems: 59T #164; 63T #563; 64T #320, 381, 386, 417, 467; 67T #315; 70/71 T Hockey Brad Park RC. $8 LOT 57 1962 Topps #142 Babe Ruth "Coaching For The Dodgers" Green Tint (Ex). LOT 141 UV: Lot of Detroit Tigers inserts/parallels: 2015T Career High Devon Travis auto, 2005D Souvenirs Alan Trammell bat, 2013T All Star Stitches Verlander jersey, 2013T Chasing History Verlander gold, ten other Topps Tigers inserts/parallels. $10 That's enough from me for today. Email me your bids at UTHMINSTA at HOTMAILdot COM and I will process them in the order they are received. ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Wantlist Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 12:48:49 -0500 Subject: RITTENBERG humpday hype, 1/2 From: Aaron Shirley For those of you looking to fill a monster box... All the following lots have MORE THAN TEN cards. Look for a part two tonight. NUMBER OF CARDS, LOT#, DESCRIPTION, CURRENT BID AMOUNT 660 cards: LOT 122, 1977 Topps set from vending case $75 630 cards: LOT 118, 1976 SSPC complete set $42 517 cards: LOT 106, 1974 Topps 517 with dupes $15 445 cards: LOT 138, UV: 1990-91 SCORE NHL Hockey Premier Edition set $5 275+ cards: LOT 112, 1975 Topps 275+ with dupes $10 231 cards: LOT 100, 1973 Puerto Rican League complete set - read ramblings $351 200 cards: LOT 114, 1975 Topps Mini 200 diff. $31 160 cards: LOT 107, 1974 Topps 160 cards, a few dupes $7 159 cards: LOT 89, 1970-71 Topps Basketball near set, missing 16 cards $111 110 cards: LOT 50, 1961 Topps 110 commons $36 105 cards: LOT 113, 1975 Topps Mini 105 diff. $19 100 cards: LOT 40, 1959 Topps grey back 100 diff. $51 100 cards: LOT 64, 1964 Topps 100 diff. $31 83 cards: LOT 99, 1973 O-Pee-Chee 83, all diff. $16 76 cards: LOT 49, 1961 Topps Stamp album PLUS 75 loose stamps $35 75 cards: LOT 140, UV: 75 cards from your favorite BB team, 1980 to present$5 50-ish? cards: LOT 45, 1960's/70s Vintage Grab Bag BB/FB/BKB $20 50 cards: LOT 139, UV: 50 cards from your favorite FB team, 1980 to present$5 40 cards: LOT 116, 1975-79 Hostess 40 diff. $16 28 cards: LOT 77, 1968-69 Topps Hockey 28 diff. $18 25 cards: LOT 84, 1970 O-Pee-Chee 25 card lot $23 25 cards: LOT 90, 1971 O-Pee-Chee 25 card lot $25 25 cards: LOT 126, 25 vintage JAPANESE baseball cards. AMAZINGLY UNDERPRICED 24 cards: LOT 21, 1950-1956 Callahan HOF, 24 diff. $21 20 cards: LOT 97, 1972 O-Pee-Chee 20 card lot $16 20 cards: LOT 104, 1973 Topps 20 diff. Tiptons $2 14 cards: LOT 80, 1969 Topps Man on the Moon - first issue 14 diff. $15 14 cards: LOT 148, Sal's 1943MP&Co Hack + more good 1952-66 Topps stuff $50 14 cards: LOT 141, UV: Tigers inserts/parallels auto, bat, jsy etc $10 AUCTION ENDS SEPTEMBER 5TH AT 10:00PM EST. BID NOW BECAUSE IT'S FUN! For full listings (and less chopped descriptions) click here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tUjiQasoEwXNyjMdS3PIRsnA-DG_qfNeW8xptPT9aM/edit?uspsharing For updates on Gina's health, click here: https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/ginarittenberg Thanks. Talk to you again soon, brothers. ================= Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 19:23:06 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: The National continues (and other confusion) From: Ken M Hi gang,  Echoes from the beginning of the month trip to Atlantic City are still resonating here. Yesterday I got a chance to get to the post office to pick up a package that had signature confirmation on it. I was wondering who would send me a package that way and the tracking had me a bit more confused briefly. I soon realized that the cards I had submitted to PSA at the show were finally returned to me. I had my three 1952 Topps mid series gray backs graded. For the record, they all came back exactly the same PSA 4(MC) - and it was only then that I noticed they were probably on the same sheet, since the right border is barely there on all three. I highly doubt I got them all at the same place or the same time though.  Two more things arrive today that were just downright confusing. The first was a summons issued to Kenneth Morgan (no, I'm not related to Howard) to appear in court for a trial involving The Commonwealth of MA vs. (Someone I've never heard of). Never mind, I just realized what this might be about. A few months ago, I was just about to fall asleep (1 AM or so) when I heard what I thought was someone in the back yard closing a sliding car door. Now this isn't unusual, as I share the driveway with the neighbors and sometimes they have weird hours... but I don't think they have a sliding door on either of their cars. Stacey's car was in the driveway unlocked, as there was nothing in it and no battery in it either. I got downstairs just in time to see someone (who could've been the neighbor) walking down my driveway. I thought I heard whoever it was talking to someone and looked out the front window. The guy continued right across the street and started checking the cars to see if they were unlocked - definitely NOT the neighbor. So I had the local PD give him a place to spend the rest of his evening. They called me back around 2:30 AM to follow up after all the commotion had died down. (I was still up.) Nothing was taken out of my car nor the neighbor's (Stacey's was rifled through a bit, but there was nothing to take, as the car hasn't been driven in 2+ years since she got it). The people across the street had stuff taken out of their cars, but I thought I was done with the case - Apparently not.  I also got a package from Ripping Wax Inc. The outside was addressed to me, but the inside had that Ken Morgan guy written on the team bag with two very well protected cards. I've been getting e-mails from them (on my other address), but I don't remember signing up for anything. I certainly don't recall joining up on any of their case breaks, since it's basically a form of gambling, which I've sworn off. However, I seem to have "won" a couple UV Toronto Raptors cards. Maybe I got a free entry from one of those VIP forms I filled out? There's some kind of scratch off in there that I can "redeem" online. Hmm. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 00:39:06 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Fantasy Basketball and Hockey From: mark zentkovich I have fantasy basketball and hockey leagues set up for us if anyone wants to join in. Draft for Hockey is Sat Oct 8 700pm CST Basketball is Sat Oct 15 700pm CST if you want to join in please let me know thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 00:30:15 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mendoza Boxes From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok Kids, I got my collection in order and started going through the boxes Mike McCann asked me to distribute around the guys who couldn't make the National. Mostly G-VG shape, some better, some worse. Mainly 70s, and I've started with baseball. Only thing I ask, is if you want any, I will pay for the shipping, just send me a card or cards to cover it. I'm starting the 1970, 1971, 1972. Point me to your lists. I am not looking to house these, so after the guys whose lists I can hopefully hit, the rest will need to be claimed. There is some football and lesser hockey, but I'm not even close to sorting those out. You might want to think about starting those 2nd and 3rd 70s sets :-) ! Sal Domino OBC - 1992