================= Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 16:56:16 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Humble beginnings From: Ken M   Andy Huntoon reminded me of an old article in Buckett Vintage. It featured me as an "Industry Expert" and was based on an e-mail exchange I had with the article's author after one of the charity auctions we ran on eBay for Rick Redpath's kids. He said it was his first exposure to OBC, but he didn't join until much later because his vintage collection was small and it was intimidating to join us.   Funny thing is I didn't join the group right away either. I was on AOL about a year before and I happened upon a bunch of the guys in a chat room. If memory serves, OBC used to meet up on the 1st Monday of the month (officially) in The Grandstand chat room. I just popped in one night and saw these guys talking about VINTAGE cards and not the latest Mark McGwire/Jose Canseco/refractor whatchamacallit thingies. One of the members asked me to check out the website, but I was also intimidated from joining. It wasn't because I liked higher grade stuff (I was still collecting EX or b etter sets) and it wasn't about sending out unsolicited cards without expecting any return. The thing that threw me off was the part of the website that said "We're pretty active. You can expect to get 20-30 e-mails per day." When I think about it now, it makes me chuckle. When I got laid off from work in '96, I figured I'd have time to handle that 'massive volume'. I not only became an e-mail junkie, but I turned into one of the biggest culprits... I'd type up a page of babble about nothing EVERY DAY. I can only imagine guys thinking "Won't this guy ever shut up?" and hitting the delete key. Thanks to Andy for reminding me and letting me share my story. And thanks for reading as always, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:45:58 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: '59T Complete! From: Jake Brewer Upon receiving a '59T Darrell Johnson via ebay, and a '59T Bob Gibson RC via Net54- I have now completed my '59T set!!!! This is my 3rd vintage set I've completed: '54T, '56T, and '59T. I'm super excited to add the Gibby! I recieved 14 cards via OBC RAOK's for this set. Also, I originally purchased/traded for two lots from Jake Elwell my mentor& Grant Rainsley that was a large portion of this set! That's how I found OBC- working on this set. So it will always hold a special place! Anywho, just wanted to share my jubilation! -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer ================= Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:59:31 -0400 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '59T Complete! [1 Attachment] From: ShoelessWes Congrats Jake! Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] > Upon receiving a '59T Darrell Johnson via ebay, and a '59T Bob Gibson RC via Net54- I have now completed my '59T set!!!! > This is my 3rd vintage set I've completed: '54T, '56T, and '59T. > I'm super excited to add the Gibby! > I recieved 14 cards via OBC RAOK's for this set. > Also, I originally purchased/traded for two lots from Jake Elwell my mentor & Grant Rainsley that was a large portion of this set! That's how I found OBC- working on this set. So it will always hold a special place! > Anywho, just wanted to share my jubilation! > -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:24:55 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '59T Complete! From: Yahoo Congrats jake. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2016, at 20:59, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Congrats Jake! > Wes Shepard > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 1, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Upon receiving a '59T Darrell Johnson via ebay, and a '59T Bob Gibson RCvia Net54- I have now completed my '59T set!!!! >> This is my 3rd vintage set I've completed: '54T, '56T, and '59T. >> I'm super excited to add the Gibby! >> I recieved 14 cards via OBC RAOK's for this set. >> Also, I originally purchased/traded for two lots from Jake Elwell my mentor & Grant Rainsley that was a large portion of this set! That's how I found OBC- working on this set. So it will always hold a special place! >> Anywho, just wanted to share my jubilation! >> -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer >> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:31:12 -0400 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '59T Complete! [1 Attachment] From: Andy Huntoon That's awesome Jake! Congrats on the last two. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Jake Brewer included below] > Upon receiving a '59T Darrell Johnson via ebay, and a '59T Bob Gibson RC via Net54- I have now completed my '59T set!!!! > This is my 3rd vintage set I've completed: '54T, '56T, and '59T. > I'm super excited to add the Gibby! > I recieved 14 cards via OBC RAOK's for this set. > Also, I originally purchased/traded for two lots from Jake Elwell my mentor & Grant Rainsley that was a large portion of this set! That's how I found OBC- working on this set. So it will always hold a special place! > Anywho, just wanted to share my jubilation! > -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 06:13:03 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: '59T Complete! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Congrats on completing your set! ================= Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 07:17:15 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: '59T Complete! From: Tom Housley Great job, Jake! Now you need to concentrate on collecting the gray/white back variations :-) Tom Housley ================= Date: 02 Jul 2016 10:58:37 -0700 To: Subject: Trader reference - Lloyd Peck From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:34:23 -0400 To: card-variations@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1960 Topps Variation Wally Post From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok I need some of you print run experts here. I was doing some upgrading to my 1960 set and I have #13 Wally Post as both a creme and gray back version. I think Richard Dingman is the only other one who has this listed. Why is this not listed in SCD as a variation (with one series of the set creme/gray) and how did this one get printed with two different color backs and not others in the same series? Was this card on the proof sheet that Keith Olberman wrote about in 2008 (http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/features/keith-olbermann-archive/olbermann-proofs-part-one)? Inquiring minds want to know, as well as insane variations collectors. I've included Bob Lemke on this, as well as Rich Mueller, as they may have some insight on the subject. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: , Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 12:15:37 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Topps Variation Wally Post From: "Grant Rainsley" Insane variation collectors? Totally redundant. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 11:34 AM To: card-variations@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: scbcguy@yahoo.com; editor@sportscollectorsdaily.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Topps Variation Wally Post Ok I need some of you print run experts here. I was doing some upgrading to my 1960 set and I have #13 Wally Post as both a creme and gray back version. I think Richard Dingman is the only other one who has this listed. Why is this not listed in SCD as a variation (with one series of the set creme/gray) and how did this one get printed with two different color backs and not others in the same series? Was this card on the proof sheet that Keith Olberman wrote about in 2008 (http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/features/keith-olbermann-archive/olbe Inquiring minds want to know, as well as insane variations collectors. I've included Bob Lemke on this, as well as Rich Mueller, as they may have some insight on the subject. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 16:48:48 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Guru Card Show Report From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Guru card show report posted on Net54. Just a much easier platform to post pictures. Lots of OBC duplicates, and a couple of tough =E2=9Ctall-boys=E2=9D. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t224858 ================= Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 19:18:51 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.5 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Well, it's getting closer and closer. You guys who haven't picked out a place to stay yet, might want to get on that. It's tourist time down there, and with the National, I'm sure reasonable hotels are booking fast. For those of you who have never been to a National, you are in for a blast. We will help you get acclimated when you get here. Make sure all of you contact me when you get in town and settled so I can fill you in on what's going on. Just so you all know, handshakes are always nice but in NO way required! We just want you there. On that subject, I will be putting handshakes together starting this week, so those going, be careful what you buy, you may wind up getting it in an envelope! Badges- we are not able to secure badges as we have in the past. A few of us will be getting VIP passes. I need to know who is planning to go this route. If we have enough, we can still do $10 a day and put that money towards the swap (room cost and food), and see where we wind up. I was talking to Ken, and we both will most likely be getting the VIP pass with the parking vouchers. Is anyone else thinking of getting that also? As always, if you are getting a ride to the convention center, hook up the driver with a couple bucks to help cover their cost in parking and gas. Once we know where everyone is staying, we can sort out the ride situation to the convention center. Ken is a little south on a different main road. I am on another that heads into AC. Maybe we can meet in groups at the driver's hotel and get shuttled in. I have not heard about any shuttles from any of the listed hotels to the convention center. Swap- The swap is Saturday after the show. We usually get together between 7-7:30. We do not have a place for this yet. Ken and myself will be there earlier and will see about getting a place secured. it's usually run us about $10 a head. This is based on the amount of guys coming and how much we had gotten from badge money. As you can see below, there are a LOT of holes that need to be filled. Obviously, none of us are trekking to Philly Tuesday to watch a game. I need some phone numbers, dates you are staying and hotels. I highly suggest that you make or arrange your schedules to make the swap. It's such a good time and we may get Tom to make us another team picture baseball card! Maybe he can pull off a 1972 psycho. If you guys have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. We all want this to be as much fun for everyone as it can be... and it always is! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 W-Sa Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Jeff Delott Th-F Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Bob Donaldson Rob Fitts Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Y Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Y F-Sa Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Sat Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: , Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 19:21:01 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.5 From: "Bob Donaldson" I'm afraid I will not be attending this year Bob Donaldson From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2016 7:19 PM To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.5 Well, it's getting closer and closer. You guys who haven't picked out a place to stay yet, might want to get on that. It's tourist time down there, and with the National, I'm sure reasonable hotels are booking fast. For those of you who have never been to a National, you are in for a blast. We will help you get acclimated when you get here. Make sure all of you contact me when you get in town and settled so I can fill you in on what's going on. Just so you all know, handshakes are always nice but in NO way required! We just want you there. On that subject, I will be putting handshakes together starting this week, so those going, be careful what you buy, you may wind up getting it in an envelope! Badges- we are not able to secure badges as we have in the past. A few of us will be getting VIP passes. I need to know who is planning to go this route. If we have enough, we can still do $10 a day and put that money towards the swap (room cost and food), and see where we wind up. I was talking to Ken, and we both will most likely be getting the VIP pass with the parking vouchers. Is anyone else thinking of getting that also? As always, if you are getting a ride to the convention center, hook up the driver with a couple bucks to help cover their cost in parking and gas. Once we know where everyone is staying, we can sort out the ride situation to the convention center. Ken is a little south on a different main road. I am on another that heads into AC. Maybe we can meet in groups at the driver's hotel and get shuttled in. I have not heard about any shuttles from any of the listed hotels to the convention center. Swap- The swap is Saturday after the show. We usually get together between 7-7:30. We do not have a place for this yet. Ken and myself will be there earlier and will see about getting a place secured. it's usually run us about $10 a head. This is based on the amount of guys coming and how much we had gotten from badge money. As you can see below, there are a LOT of holes that need to be filled. Obviously, none of us are trekking to Philly Tuesday to watch a game. I need some phone numbers, dates you are staying and hotels. I highly suggest that you make or arrange your schedules to make the swap. It's such a good time and we may get Tom to make us another team picture baseball card! Maybe he can pull off a 1972 psycho. If you guys have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. We all want this to be as much fun for everyone as it can be... and it always is! Cell Phone Tues Game Swap Session Days There Comfort Inn AC North Tri Way Motel Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon Clarion In & Suites Absecon Clarion In & Suites Absecon Tri Way Motel Clarion In & Suites Absecon Fantasea Resorts Tri Way Motel Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 14:33:39 +0000 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] interesting purchase From: Matthew Glidden Wow, that's an amazing pickup, both for cards and album! Never seen Remar so cute and so affordable. On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 10:03 AM hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > picked this up yesterday--at the opening bid--merely a whim bid.....added > a complete set of vintage to the mix-- > http://www.ebay.com/itm/381682890747?_trksidp2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:35:04 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: The peccadilloes of 1949 Bowman PCL pricing From: Matthew Glidden I've watched Bowman PCL for some years. 10+ years ago, it was a largely unknown set that made occasional appearances at shows. Today it's a largely unknown set that makes more frequent appearances on eBay in slabs that never sell. Slabbed asking price (all grades) -- $300+ Unslabbed low grade "Sold" listing on eBay -- $20-50 (sometimes hand-cut, perhaps because Bowman left a number of sheets unpackaged) With no stars and a drab design, Bowman PCL seems one of the least likely to move people who love vintage any further up the buying scale. While other obscure sets or single cards get caught in a similar eBay pricing eddies, anyone see factors that could change for PCL? Are new advanced collectors likely to "discover" them in a meaningful way? ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 12:06:30 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: interesting purchase From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Great pick up Peter! ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:21:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "Glidden, Matthew" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The peccadilloes of 1949 Bowman PCL pricing From: mark_macrae@comcast.net It is an interesting set. I picked up a few in the 70's that were beat to hell and cost me about $50 each.. In '83 I had an opportunity to buy a nice complete set (all machine cut) for $4003 (odd amount, easy to remember) . I've improved some of the cards over the years, but have noticed a wide range of asking prices and realized prices. Many years ago on Ebay I bought several cards from one seller that were all hand cut (most likely from the Stevie Wonder collection). They ranged from under $5 to about $20 each, a price level that I had never seen before (even in the 70's)... The cards have always had limited appeal , and likely always will. As the generation that could relate to the players dies off, you're left with mostly west coast collectors and a few "town" or TYPE collectors. They are very tough cards and the only thing that keeps prices and demand down is the lack of a "Joe Dimaggio" type star in the set ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "obc ramblings" Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 8:35:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The peccadilloes of 1949 Bowman PCL pricing I've watched Bowman PCL for some years. 10+ years ago, it was a largely unknown set that made occasional appearances at shows. Today it's a largely unknown set that makes more frequent appearances on eBay in slabs that never sell. Slabbed asking price (all grades) -- $300+ Unslabbed low grade "Sold" listing on eBay -- $20-50 (sometimes hand-cut, perhaps because Bowman left a number of sheets unpackaged) With no stars and a drab design, Bowman PCL seems one of the least likely to move people who love vintage any further up the buying scale. While other obscure sets or single cards get caught in a similar eBay pricing eddies, anyone see factors that could change for PCL? Are new advanced collectors likely to "discover" them in a meaningful way? ================= Date: 03 Jul 2016 09:48:56 -0700 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] interesting purchase From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 13:04:23 -0400 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] interesting purchase From: Andy Huntoon That is awesome. The Stengel alone is worth the price and to get all the others and a super cool custom album makes it even better. I didn't look closely, but was the lot listed poorly or something? I'm just surprised it closed for just the opening bid. Great find! Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2016, at 10:01 AM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > picked this up yesterday--at the opening bid--merely a whim bid.....addeda complete set of vintage to the mix-- > http://www.ebay.com/itm/381682890747?_trksidp2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 13:33:38 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela From: Rick No bids yet three days to go cards look pretty nice for Venezuelans only need one card out of the lot. Don't want to buy the whole lot for one card anyone interested in the lot? Rick View item: 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela End Time: Jul 6, 2016, 6:00:43 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:04:29 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Meet up From: Rick Mike Rich came thru the northwest a couple days ago I couldn't get away forthe whole day. I meet him at 2:30 at the museum of flight and made it thruhalf of it then went to get something to eat. We then went to the Marinersgame to meet Dave Fallen and his wonderful wife. It was great to meet another OBCer Some day I will get to the national to add to the list I've meet.Mike slipped me a 71 Kellogg's and Dave handed me a Jack Jensen remar bread and a mothers cookie card. Thank you both for the cards and a great day at the ball park. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:55:57 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Think About It.......... From: Mike Diamanti ....is a new thread I'm going to start today. What is it, you ask? It's any baseball fact, anecdote, statistic, or fun and interesting bit of information that I believe the OBC brethren could ponder, find amusing, or in this case, use for contemplation about an aspect of baseball. Today's aspect is: *Pitching.* While driving today, listening to the Mariner's pregame show before the last game with Baltimore, the announcers mentioned that they had enjoyed chatting with Jim Palmer during the homestand., Palmer covers the Orioles for TV, as many of you know. They learned this: in Palmer's 19 year career with the Orioles, he had NEVER (underline never here), given up a grand slam HR. Instead, he had walked in a run only 11 times in his entire career, and could name the players he had walked in that situation. *Think about it.* *Coffeedude Diamanti *in Coupeville PS How did they ever fit all his stats on his 1984 card? ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 19:07:16 -0500 To: Mike Diamanti Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Think About It.......... From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 20:31:47 -0400 To: OBC ramblings Subject: 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: ShoelessWes http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss-pinhole-Filler-poor4-bk-/252446513882?navSEARCH Sent from my iPhone ================= To: ShoelessWes , OBC ramblings Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 20:41:06 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored From: richard dingman Only 1 crease! To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 20:31:47 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss-pinhole-Filler-poor4-bk-/252446513882?navSEARCH Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 21:00:18 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: Andy Huntoon While I do need a Banks rookie for my '54 Topps set, and hope to pick one up at the National, and this card is in spectacular OBC condition, even I can't pull the trigger on this one at $40. I do love it though. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss-pinhole-Filler-poor4-bk-/252446513882?navSEARCH > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 21:30:34 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I bid $66.29 and am currently the high bidder at $50.99. I need 10, but almost all would be upgrades for me. If the 1 you need is not 1 of the 10 I need, it is yours if I win. I would guess it is 1 of the 10 I need though. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2016 4:33 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela No bids yet three days to go cards look pretty nice for Venezuelans only need one card out of the lot. Don't want to buy the whole lot for one card anyone interested in the lot? Rick View item: 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela End Time: Jul 6, 2016, 6:00:43 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= To: "'ShoelessWes'" , Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 18:59:29 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: "Grant Rainsley" This just begs the question I have always wondered...there it is at whatever price, Buy It Now.....so WHY are there two "Watchers" ????? I have seen this many times, and just have to wonder....is it just curiosity to see what it sells for? I just don't get it..if a bid comes in, and you want it, you will end up paying more at the end......but then again, maybe I am just thick. Or maybe Evilbay just slaps a couple of "Watchers" on items to help draw interest? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 5:32 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 22:01:29 -0400 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nick's Question on baseball vintage owned by From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I think I am the 43,000 person George is referring to. I have picked up another couple hundred cards plus on the trip. I believe there are thousandsof TCMA cards I still do not have. There are some other team and regionalissues that are inexpensive. I am hopeful that over time I will get to 50k+ myself. With all the cards, especially prewar, others in the group have, collectively, we should nd up over 1/2 of the 110,000. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2016 9:31 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Nick's Question on baseball vintage owned by all of As to the total single vintage baseball cards owned aggregately by OBCers, the number is 51,236. You might wonder how I came up with this number. When Jefferson Burdick wrapped up his baseball card collecting in 1960, he had about 30,000 of the 43,000 baseball cards issued through 1960. So even the Sultan of Cardboard only batted about .700. There are about 110,000 vintage baseball singles through 1980. The collector with the most vintage baseball that I know has about 43,000 singles and has probably exhausted most of the findable sets. There are some less expensive obscure regionals, that some of us have which will help our aggregate numbers, but I feel the other cards we own above and beyond the 43,000 are pretty old and expensive. Therefore the quantities are not great. I have offered advice t o OBCers in figuring out how many cards they have for the set recognition levels. One of my last suggestions is to just make up a number that sounds believable. That=E2=99s how I came up with the 51,236. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 22:02:12 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: The peccadilloes of 1949 Bowman PCL pricing From: Andy This one of my favorite sets. As noted, there's incredible inconsistency inpricing. I've paid as little as $12.50 for a Tipton. I had a PSA-7MC that I replaced with a Tipton. I sold it to a dealer who posted it on EBay with a bin double what I sold it to him for. I'm not sure if he still has it, but it languished on EBay with the crazy bin for at least five years. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 21:44:40 -0500 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: , Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 23:30:03 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Think About It.......... From: Bob Reed One interesting thing is while pit hing in the minors in 1968 (or was it '67?) he did give up a grand slam. Some guy named Johnny Bench hit it. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 16:55:57 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Think About It.......... ....is a new thread I'm going to start today. What is it, you ask? It's any baseball fact, anecdote, statistic, or fun and interesting bit of information that I believe the OBC brethren could ponder, find amusing, or in this case, use for contemplation about an aspect of baseball. Today's aspect is: Pitching. While driving today, listening to the Mariner's pregame show before the last game with Baltimore, the announcers mentioned that they had enjoyed chatting with Jim Palmer during the homestand., Palmer covers the Orioles for TV, as many of you know. They learned this: in Palmer's 19 year career with the Orioles, he had NEVER (underline never here), given up a grand slam HR. Instead, he had walkedin a run only 11 times in his entire career, and could name the players hehad walked in that situation. Think about it. Coffeedude Diamanti in Coupeville PS How did they ever fit all his stats on his 1984 card? ================= To: Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2016 22:41:56 -0500 Subject: Re: interesting purchase From: "George Vrechek" That is really neat, great find in plain sight. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 05:01:48 +0000 To: Aaron Shirley , Mike Diamanti Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Think About It.......... From: Matthew Glidden Nolan Ryan was still pitching when Topps did those 90s micro sets. Ryan's stats are like needles in haystacks. http://www.tradingcarddb.com/ViewCard.cfm/sid/10330/cid/3442119/1993-Topps---Micro-700-Nolan-Ryan On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 8:07 PM Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > PS How did they ever fit all his stats on his 1984 card? > I thought about this as a "mini-collection" idea: only cards showing 20 or > more years of stats. The print gets awfully tiny. > Aaron ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 01:09:28 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: ShoelessWes Its gotta be in OBC. One of us is just gonna have to eat the bullet and pick it up. One-Two-Three-.... "Not it !!!" Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss-pinhole-Filler-poor4-bk-/252446513882?navSEARCH > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 01:41:19 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Delayed fireworks From: Ken M Hi gang,  Got to enjoy the perfect weather today by playing some softball. I play pickup games every Sunday. Afterwards, I have enough time to get home, shower and head right to work, where I was sweating again throwing pallets of water out on the sales floor. Short shift today though, since apparently the company will go bankrupt if they pay me a full shift of Sunday OT. Got home and my migraine got worse, so I took some aspirin and a nap. Slept right through any fireworks too. Drawback is I'm wide awake now with nothing to do but type up a ramble :-)  I put the last of my waiver wires in the mail Thursday night. (Using a highly intensive series of coin flips and die rolls) I drew the winning names for the finale Saturday morning and handed the envelopes to the postal carrier just before I left for work. Almost everything is expected to arrive in mailboxes everywhere Tuesday. Everywhere except Memphis, TN - which is expected on Thursday. How come they're two days slower th an packages going across the continent to WA and CA? and it's not like it's a remote location in the Appalachians either ...unless my perception of Memphis is way off base. (They got an airport, running water and everything, right?)  The response to my last waiver wasn't as much as I had expected - probably only 12-15 people who actually put in a claim (most of those were for the 1960 card, which I did expect). I was toying with a couple ideas on distributing them like 1) addressing an envelope to everyone who put in a claim, turning them over randomly putting in either a Mantle or one of my 1955 knockoff OBC cards. I nixed that because I might've sent the Post to someone who claimed the 58 or vice versa. 2) Again, address an envelope to everyone who put in a claim and (after selecting the winners) send everyone three cards: my OBC card AND either two unclaimed cards OR an unclaimed card and a Mantle in the middle... like getting a golden ticket in a Wonka bar. (I was even going to put W. Wonka as the return address.) Decided against that as cruel and unusual punishment.  So I ended up just addressing 3 envelopes and putting in a short note with the card. I don't think I wrote anything with any of the other waiver claims. Here's my blanket note for the rest if you got or will get an envelope from me: "Hi (insert your name here), Here's your waiver claim. Thanks for helping me celebrate 20 years in OBC. Enjoy, Ken M"  Thanks also to those who didn't put in a claim but sent good wishes and congratulations on my anniversary. It's been a pleasure being a part of this group and I cherish the friendships I've made with you guys, many of whom have been there for 15+ years. Here's to another 20 years and many more after that! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 02:32:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I'll jump in on the two Mets cards,,, In a message dated 7/3/2016 9:30:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I bid $66.29 and am currently the high bidder at $50.99. I need 10, but almost all would be upgrades for me. If the 1 you need is not 1 of the 10 I need, it is yours if I win. I would guess it is 1 of the 10 I need though. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2016 4:33 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela No bids yet three days to go cards look pretty nice for Venezuelans only need one card out of the lot. Don't want to buy the whole lot for one card anyone interested in the lot? Rick View item: _1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela_ (http://pages.ebay.com/link/?navitem.view&altweb&id302002373182&globalIDEBAY-US) End Time: Jul 6, 2016, 6:00:43 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 02:33:32 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pi... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I watch a lot of stuff, just to see where it winds up for future purchase In a message dated 7/3/2016 9:59:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: This just begs the question I have always wondered=E2=A6=E2=A6.thereit is at whatever price, Buy It Now=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..so WHY are there two =E2=9DWatchers=E2=9D ????? I have seen this many times, and just have to wonder=E2=A6=E2=A6..is it just curiosity to see what it sells for? I just don=E2=99t get it=E2=A6=E2=A6if a bid comes in, and you want it, you will end up paying more at the end=E2=A6=E2=A6..=E2=A6.but then again, maybe I am just thick. Or maybe Evilbay just slaps a couple of =E2=9CWatchers=E2=9D items to help draw interest? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 5:32 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 08:17:58 -0400 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pi... From: Doug I do the same, and even if it is a BIN that you watch if it doesn't sell and is relapsed with a lower price you get notified automatically. I've picked up some deals that way when I was on the fence with the original price. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 4, 2016, at 2:33 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I watch a lot of stuff, just to see where it winds up for future purchasereference. > In a message dated 7/3/2016 9:59:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > This just begs the question I have always wondered=E2=A6=E2=A6.there it is at whatever price, Buy It Now=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..so WHY are there two =E2=9DWatchers=E2=9D ????? I have seen this many times,and just have to wonder=E2=A6=E2=A6..is it just curiosity to see what it sells for? I just don=E2=99t get it=E2=A6=E2=A6if a bid comes in, and you want it, you will end up paying more at the end=E2=A6=E2=A6..=E2=A6.but then again, maybe I am just thick. Or maybe Evilbay just slaps a couple of =E2=9CWatchers=E2=9D on items to help draw interest? > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 5:32 PM > To: OBC ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay > http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss-pinhole-Filler-poor4-bk-/252446513882?navSEARCH > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 09:09:57 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Guru Ramble From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Happy 4th OBC! I=E2=99ve got some free time so thought I might put together a =E2=9Cramble=E2=9D. Oh wait, I=E2=99m retired I=E2=99ve got lots of free time LOL! I posted a card show report on Net54, and sent out a Ramblings message withthe link. I like posting on Net54 because you can easily post pictures as part of your message. Yahoo Groups has been VERY good for OBC, but it is weak on how pictures are displayed. I think the OBC experience would be improved if we transitioned away from Yahoo Groups and somehow converted to a message board format like Net54. But I don=E2=99tthink OBC generates enough traffic to go down that road. I=E2=99ve posted pictures on Yahoo groups plenty of times, but they don=E2=99t really become a part of the message like on Net54. This is NOT a formal request for the AC to look into this matter. I know OBC members followed the link to my Net54 message, because right away I got two responses wanting that 1965 Topps =E2=9Ctall-boy=E2=9D SP RC Ben Davidson LOL I =E2=9Cdealer-scummed=E2=9D it at cost to a thankful OBC member. Last night I finally completed my Topps football run 1951-1981 with a winning snipe on the last card I needed 1972 Topps football HI #266 Rayfield Wright. The Standard Catalog says this card books for $10 in NM which is a crock since I have been losing snipes set at $20 for months and months! A $25 snipe for the win, and I=E2=99m glad to be done with those 1972 Topps football hi numbers, if you think the =E2=9972 Topps baseball hi numbers are tough, you have no idea! I recently added Topps football wax pack inserts to my wantlist, I also picked up a good supply of 1960 and 1961 Fleer baseball decals wax pack inserts I have duplicates to trade anybody else collect these? We=E2=99ve talked before about =E2=9Cgetting off your wallet=E2=9Dwhen it comes to completing some of these baseball sets. It=E2=99s the curse of a set collector. Well I finally =E2=9Cgot off my wallet=E2=9D and purchased a 1951 Bowman Willie Mays RC. Card was listed on eBay auction format and in =E2=9Craw=E2=9D form. Of course when dealing with these high dollar cards one of the first things you ask is =E2=9Dwhy isn=E2=99t this card slabbed=E2=9D? So I requested a private second opinion from one of our OBC experts, and he thought the card looked good, although he could not give his 100% thumbs up without having the card in hand. Ihave been looking for this card, and had $725 saved to purchase it. I set my snipe and was successful at $610 which I realize is a LOT of coin LOL! As soon as the card arrived, I confirmed the card looked good, and immediately shipped it off to SGC for slabbing. I would not leave seller feedback until I got the results from SGC because if the card came back as altered or even fake I had to keep this in mind. Anyway the card came back SGC 30 GOODand of course I then left seller feedback. It=E2=99s a GREAT looking card, and I think has some =E2=9Cupside=E2=9D to it. There is one SGC 30 card on eBay right now $2,500 BIN of course it=E2=99s still sitting there at that price LOL! The only card left for me to complete my 1951 Bowman set is #253 Mickey Mantle RC and I=E2=99ve set my =E2=9Cprice-point=E2=9D at $1,300 is this realistic? I just don=E2=99t see the =E2=9Cup-side=E2=9D to this card like I did with Mays, but time will tell. This Mantle RC is now my number one targeted card. Did I REALLY just type all that? Six hundred dollar baseball cards? Don=E2=99t worry it is me, my email has not been hacked LOL! A few reasons I am not attending the National. First and foremost would be the location and all the forecasted troubles with transport and accommodations. Last year at Chicago I flew directly into ORD, caught a free shuttle to my beautiful hotel, free shuttles to and from the show, free shuttle backto the airport. I=E2=99ve just soured on the whole AC experience, and I=E2=99ve never even been there! I=E2=99ll see everyone next year in Chicago! I=E2=99ve also had a few other expenses come up, new washer/dryer, and I need new tires on one of my vehicles too, and oh yeah $610 Mays cards LOL! I=E2=99ll be anxious to see all the reports on the National Server and also on Net54. I=E2=99ve really been enjoying finishing off my vintage non sports sets.Example 1966 Topps Superman cards which I just LOVE! Then I find out the first 44 cards (I think) can be found with a =E2=9CWATCH SUPERMAN ON TV=E2=9D add on the back, or with just the plain copyright information. SoI=E2=99ve been trying for those cost is under $5 a card I know Sal and some of the variation collectors are proud of me! Also I like the 1959 Fleer Three Stooges cards, and I=E2=99m now collecting both cream colored and grey colored card stock. This is where I=E2=99m at after 25 years a member of OBC. I think about my =E2=9Cslow-time=E2=9D in OBC 2001-2006 when my wife of 28 years advised me that she didn=E2=99t love me, and was leaving me. =E2=9CWHATTHE =E2=A6=E2=A6.=E2=9D ???? That seems like a lifetime ago! WellI got to keep my cards, she got her =E2=9CBeanie-Babies=E2=9D so there is always something positive to focus on right? My thoughts and prayers today are on my OBC friends who are going through some tough times. The healing power of cardboard, and of course friends who care. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 07:25:12 -0700 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru Ramble From: Rick Congrats on all the success and you have $115 towards the Mantle! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 4, 2016, at 6:09 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Happy 4th OBC! I=E2=99ve got some free time so thought I might put together a =E2=9Cramble=E2=9D. Oh wait, I=E2=99m retired I=E2=99vegot lots of free time LOL! > I posted a card show report on Net54, and sent out a Ramblings message with the link. I like posting on Net54 because you can easily post pictures as part of your message. Yahoo Groups has been VERY good for OBC, but it is weak on how pictures are displayed. I think the OBC > experience would be improved if we transitioned away from Yahoo Groups and somehow converted to a message board format like Net54. But I don=E2=99t think OBC generates enough traffic to go down that road. I=E2=99ve posted pictures on Yahoo groups plenty of times, but they don=E2=99t really become a part of the message like on Net54. This is NOT a formal request for the AC to look into this matter. I know OBC members followed the linkto my Net54 message, because right away I got two responses wanting that 1965 Topps =E2=9Ctall-boy=E2=9D SP RC Ben Davidson LOL I =E2=9Cdealer-scummed=E2=9D it at cost to a thankful OBC member. > Last night I finally completed my Topps football run 1951-1981 with a winning snipe on the last card I needed 1972 Topps football HI #266 Rayfield Wright. The Standard Catalog says this card books for $10 in NM which is a crock since I have been losing snipes set at $20 for months and months! A $25 snipe for the win, and I=E2=99m glad to be done with those 1972 Topps football hi numbers, if you think the =E2=9972 Topps baseball hi numbersare tough, you have no idea! > I recently added Topps football wax pack inserts to my wantlist, I also picked up a good supply of 1960 and 1961 Fleer baseball decals wax pack inserts I have duplicates to trade anybody else collect these? > We=E2=99ve talked before about =E2=9Cgetting off your wallet=E2=9D when it comes to completing some of these baseball sets. It=E2=99s the curse of a set collector. Well I finally =E2=9Cgot off my wallet=E2=9D and purchased a 1951 Bowman Willie Mays RC. Card was listed on eBay auction format and in =E2=9Craw=E2=9D form. Of course when dealing with these high dollar cards one of the first things you ask is =E2=9Dwhy isn=E2=99t this card slabbed=E2=9D? So I requested a private second opinion from one of our OBC experts, and he thought the card looked good, although he could not give his 100% thumbs up without having the card in hand. I have been looking for this card, and had $725 saved to purchase it. I set my snipe and was successful at $610 which I realize is a LOT of coin LOL! As soon as the card arrived, I confirmed the card looked good, and immediately shipped it off to SGC for slabbing. I would not leave seller feedbackuntil I got the results from SGC because if the card came back as altered or even fake I had to keep this in mind. Anyway the card came back SGC 30 GOOD and of course I then left seller feedback. It=E2=99s a GREAT lookingcard, and I think has some =E2=9Cupside=E2=9D to it. There is one SGC 30 card on eBay right now $2,500 BIN of course it=E2=99s still sittingthere at that price LOL! > The only card left for me to complete my 1951 Bowman set is #253 Mickey Mantle RC and I=E2=99ve set my =E2=9Cprice-point=E2=9D at $1,300 isthis realistic? I just don=E2=99t see the =E2=9Cup-side=E2=9D to this card like I did with Mays, but time will tell. This Mantle RC is now my number one targeted card. > Did I REALLY just type all that? Six hundred dollar baseball cards? Don=E2=99t worry it is me, my email has not been hacked LOL! > A few reasons I am not attending the National. First and foremost would be the location and all the forecasted troubles with transport and accommodations. Last year at Chicago I flew directly into ORD, caught a free shuttleto my beautiful hotel, free shuttles to and from the show, free shuttle back to the airport. I=E2=99ve just soured on the whole AC experience, andI=E2=99ve never even been there! I=E2=99ll see everyone next year in Chicago! I=E2=99ve also had a few other expenses come up, new washer/dryer, and I need new tires on one of my vehicles too, and oh yeah $610 Mayscards LOL! I=E2=99ll be anxious to see all the reports on the National Server and also on Net54. > I=E2=99ve really been enjoying finishing off my vintage non sports sets. Example 1966 Topps Superman cards which I just LOVE! Then I find out thefirst 44 cards (I think) can be found with a =E2=9CWATCH SUPERMAN ON TV=E2=9D add on the back, or with just the plain copyright information. SoI=E2=99ve been trying for those cost is under $5 a card I know Sal and some of the variation collectors are proud of me! Also I like the 1959 Fleer Three Stooges cards, and I=E2=99m now collecting both cream colored and grey colored card stock. > This is where I=E2=99m at after 25 years a member of OBC. I think about my =E2=9Cslow-time=E2=9D in OBC 2001-2006 when my wife of 28 years advised me that she didn=E2=99t love me, and was leaving me. =E2=9CWHAT THE =E2=A6=E2=A6.=E2=9D ???? That seems like a lifetime ago! Well I got to keep my cards, she got her =E2=9CBeanie-Babies=E2=9D so there is always something positive to focus on right? My thoughts and prayers today are on my OBC friends who are going through some tough times. The healing power of cardboard, and of course friends who care. > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 11:16:30 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:36:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Guru Ramble From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Absolutely awesome about the Mays. And with it a "30", looks like you got it at a real nice price. The Mantle's have been going crazy in pricing since a few morons WAY over paid for a couple of 52s an 53s. For some reason, the auction houses get beyond top dollar for their cards (I just don't get it, unless there is some under-the-table things going on). A year ago, if I got off my wallet, I might have had a decent 52B Mantle for just over 300. Now, the crappiest of them are listed on Ebay for nearly that price. I think your Mantle price is more than fair, but it may take a while to find it. Willie just doesn't get the respect in cardboard that he deserves. Hey, we both got our Namath rookies for good prices! Ken, Tom, Richard and myself are very proud of you for doing the variations. I wish George would count them in the collection numbers, to usthey another card in the set LOL! You are going to be missed at the National for sure. Maybe I'll try the Periscope thing. I saw the 3 stooges cards once. If I do another non-sport set, that may be on the radar. I want to hit the 69 and 70 Man on the Moon cards Glenn and myself are working on. And you made out great in the divorce. The beanie babies ain't worth the stuffing they are made with. My ex got to keep her Hummels, she knew she wouldn't be around to collect any more if she went after my baseball cards. Has it really been that long since we were on Prodigy, trading cards for "Washington's"? (Back then, you couldn't sell, so we traded cards for George Washington paper inserts LOL). Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/4/2016 9:10:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Happy 4th OBC! I=E2=99ve got some free time so thought I might put together a =E2=9C ramble=E2=9D. Oh wait, I=E2=99m retired I=E2=99ve got lots of free time LOL! I posted a card show report on Net54, and sent out a Ramblings message with the link. I like posting on Net54 because you can easily post pictures part of your message. Yahoo Groups has been VERY good for OBC, but it is weak on how pictures are displayed. I think the OBC experience would be improved if we transitioned away from Yahoo Groups and somehow converted to a message board format like Net54. But I don=E2=99t OBC generates enough traffic to go down that road. I=E2=99ve posted pictures Yahoo groups plenty of times, but they don=E2=99t really become a part of message like on Net54. This is NOT a formal request for the AC to look into this matter. I know OBC members followed the link to my Net54 message, because right away I got two responses wanting that 1965 Topps =E2=9Ctall-boy=E2=9D SP RC Ben Davidson LOL I =E2=9Cdealer-scummed=E2=9D it at cost to a thankful OBC member. Last night I finally completed my Topps football run 1951-1981 with a winning snipe on the last card I needed 1972 Topps football HI #266 Rayfield Wright. The Standard Catalog says this card books for $10 in NM which is a crock since I have been losing snipes set at $20 for months and months! A $25 snipe for the win, and I=E2=99m glad to be done with those 1972 Topps football hi numbers, if you think the =E2=9972 Topps baseball hi numbers are tough, have no idea! I recently added Topps football wax pack inserts to my wantlist, I also picked up a good supply of 1960 and 1961 Fleer baseball decals wax pack inserts I have duplicates to trade anybody else collect these? We=E2=99ve talked before about =E2=9Cgetting off your wallet=E2=9D when it comes to completing some of these baseball sets. It=E2=99s the curse of a set collector. I finally =E2=9Cgot off my wallet=E2=9D and purchased a 1951 Bowman Willie Mays RC. Card was listed on eBay auction format and in =E2=9Craw=E2=9D form. Of course when dealing with these high dollar cards one of the first things you ask is =E2=9D why isn=E2=99t this card slabbed=E2=9D? So I requested a private second opinion from one of our OBC experts, and he thought the card looked good, although he could not give his 100% thumbs up without having the card in hand. I have been looking for this card, and had $725 saved to purchase it. I set my snipe and was successful at $610 which I realize is a LOT of coin LOL! As soon as the card arrived, I confirmed the card looked good, and immediately shipped it off to SGC for slabbing. I would not leave seller feedback until I got the results from SGC because if the card came back as altered or even fake I had to keep this in mind. Anyway the card came back SGC 30 GOOD and of course I then left seller feedback. It=E2=99s a GREAT looking card, andI has some =E2=9Cupside=E2=9D to it. There is one SGC 30 card on eBay right now $2,500 BIN of course it=E2=99s still sitting there at that price LOL! The only card left for me to complete my 1951 Bowman set is #253 Mickey Mantle RC and I=E2=99ve set my =E2=9Cprice-point=E2=9D at $1,300 is this realistic? I just don=E2=99t see the =E2=9Cup-side=E2=9D to this card like I did with Mays, but time will tell. This Mantle RC is now my number one targeted card. Did I REALLY just type all that? Six hundred dollar baseball cards? Don=E2=99t worry it is me, my email has not been hacked LOL! A few reasons I am not attending the National. First and foremost would be the location and all the forecasted troubles with transport and accommodations. Last year at Chicago I flew directly into ORD, caught a free to my beautiful hotel, free shuttles to and from the show, free shuttle back to the airport. I=E2=99ve just soured on the whole AC experience,and& never even been there! I=E2=99ll see everyone next year in Chicago! I=E2=99ve had a few other expenses come up, new washer/dryer, and I need new tires on one of my vehicles too, and oh yeah $610 Mays cards LOL! I=E2=99ll be anxious to see all the reports on the National Server and also on Net54. I=E2=99ve really been enjoying finishing off my vintage non sports sets. Example 1966 Topps Superman cards which I just LOVE! Then I find out the first cards (I think) can be found with a =E2=9CWATCH SUPERMAN ON TV=E2=9Dadd on the back, or with just the plain copyright information. So I=E2=99ve been trying those cost is under $5 a card I know Sal and some of the variation collectors are proud of me! Also I like the 1959 Fleer Three Stooges cards, and I=E2=99m now collecting both cream colored and grey colored card stock. This is where I=E2=99m at after 25 years a member of OBC. I think aboutmy slow-time=E2=9D in OBC 2001-2006 when my wife of 28 years advised me that she didn=E2=99 t love me, and was leaving me. =E2=9CWHAT THE =E2=A6=E2=A6.=E2=9D ???? That seems like a lifetime ago! Well I got to keep my cards, she got her =E2=9CBeanie-Babies=E2=9D there is always something positive to focus on right? My thoughts and prayers today are on my OBC friends who are going through some tough times. The healing power of cardboard, and of course friends who care. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:42:43 +0000 (UTC) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: A card that should not exist From: Patrick Prickett As many of you know, one of my collecting passions has been to figure out the exact layout of the uncut 1952 Topps sheets - which is easy to speculate, but hard to prove.Over the years, I've found enough evidence to prove all but thethree rows on the first series (and I have a verysolid guess on thosemissing three rows - which is almost certainly correct). But I thought I'd share a photo of one of my newest cards - and this card should not exist! Rickert was printed twice on the full200 card sheet. Once in the bottom left quadrant with Sid Hudson above and below it. Clearly this card does not have part of Sid Hudson on it. The second location was the last row of the TOPright quadrant. For those that don't know what the uncut sheets looked like, I've attached the most complete sheet ever found below. If Rickert was in the spot that everyone always believed him to be, then this card should show, Rickert (check), a big gap (check) and Al Zarilla (ooops!). The"logical" explanation is that somehow everyone who has ever tried to figure these out has it backwards and the top right quadrant really should be the bottom right quadrant. But, that doesn't appear to work either, because there has never been any photo of any sheet that shows a print line like this at the bottom. So you're thinking, wait .. there was a proof sheet that surfaced a few years back with just cards 1-25 and it had a completely different layout than the rest of the sheets - maybe this is a proofcard like that. Nope. That proof sheet had printer's marks (little plus signs) but not wide solid strip at the bottom. Honestly, I'm at a loss as to what this is ... becausethis cardshould not exist. Of course, this also means that cards #41-#49 should "not" exist in a form that looks like this too. If anyone ever stumbles across these other 9 cards that should not exist (or any other 52 Topps with this huge black strip)- please let me know! ================= Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 16:48:30 +0000 To: Patrick Prickett , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist [3 Attachments] From: Matthew Glidden Hi Patrick, that's a puzzler for sure! For my own knowledge, did Topps send salesman samples out for 1952 Topps? I've seen some for ensuing years, so that's what comes to mind. On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 12:42 PM Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_1726306414899836599_TopText> from Patrick Prickett > included below] > Hi, > As many of you know, one of my collecting passions has been to figure out > the exact layout of the uncut 1952 Topps sheets - which is easy to > speculate, but hard to prove. Over the years, I've found enough evidence > to prove all but the three rows on the first series (and I have a very > solid guess on those missing three rows - which is almost certainly > correct). But I thought I'd share a photo of one of my newest cards - and > this card should not exist! Rickert was printed twice on the full 200 card > sheet. Once in the bottom left quadrant with Sid Hudson above and below > it. Clearly this card does not have part of Sid Hudson on it. The second > location was the last row of the TOP right quadrant. For those that don't > know what the uncut sheets looked like, I've attached the most complete > sheet ever found below. If Rickert was in the spot that everyone always > believed him to be, then this card should show, Rickert (check), a big gap > (check) and Al Zarilla (ooops!). The "logical" explanation is that somehow > everyone who has ever tried to figure these out has it backwards and the > top right quadrant really should be the bottom right quadrant. But, that > doesn't appear to work either, because there has never been any photo of > any sheet that shows a print line like this at the bottom. So you're > thinking, wait .. there was a proof sheet that surfaced a few years back > with just cards 1-25 and it had a completely different layout than the rest > of the sheets - maybe this is a proof card like that. Nope. That proof > sheet had printer's marks (little plus signs) but not wide solid strip at > the bottom. > Honestly, I'm at a loss as to what this is ... because this card should > not exist. Of course, this also means that cards #41-#49 should "not" > exist in a form that looks like this too. If anyone ever stumbles across > these other 9 cards that should not exist (or any other 52 Topps with this > huge black strip) - please let me know! > Cheers, > Patrick ================= To: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:10:32 -0400 Subject: Ebay "sold for" From: "Bob Donaldson" Last week I bought a lot of early Exhibits. http://www.ebay.com/itm/311628929410?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT BIN of $175, I eventually got it for $110. Funny thing is, when I click on the listing, it says sold for $175, not $110. I see $110 on my Ebay or in Paypal, but someone who was doing a search of completed listings would think it sold for $175. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:12:03 -0400 To: tradingbases@yahoogroups.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Happy 4th of July to all From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, Happy 4TH OF July to all!! ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:23:03 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mcdee's 1970 Brewers From: Anthony Hello all, Happen to see a thread on net54 about a 1970 regional McDonald's set. I wascurious and ran a search and found this.......also won it for $10 Does anyone know more about this and where is a listing of all the 70's McDonald's http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-McDonalds-ORIGINAL-MILWAUKEE-BREWERS-Comlete-Set-of-31-On-Panels-VG-EX-/371662407084?ul_refhttp%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com= %2Frover%2F0%2Fe11102.m454.l1123%2F7%3Feuid%3Dcc97919dc8d34b7198a8318f558043a9%26loc%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.com%252Fws%252FeBayISAPI.dll%253FVi= Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 10:17:06 -0700 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay "sold for" From: Rick If it's a bin with a make offer option I believe that's what happens. It shows it sold as the bin price not at the accepted offer price. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 4, 2016, at 10:10 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi > Last week I bought a lot of early Exhibits. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/311628929410?_trksidp2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT > BIN of $175, I eventually got it for $110. Funny thing is, when I click on the listing, it says sold for $175, not $110. I see $110 on my Ebay or in Paypal, but someone who was doing a search of completed listings would think it sold for $175. > Bob ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:58:38 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: A card that should not exist From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, likethe message board format of Net54. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 14:33:14 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Bob Donaldson I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the > limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would > sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like > the message board format of Net54. > Guru ================= To: "'Bob Donaldson'" , Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 12:23:21 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: "Grant Rainsley" I=E2=99ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that=E2=A6=E2=A6.. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, likethe message board format of Net54. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:30:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Jake Elwell What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beatthe ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours, Jake Sr. > On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I=E2=99ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone hasalready done that=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM > To: LAWRENCE TIPTON > Cc: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive > On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of thelimitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 13:49:53 -0700 To: Jake Elwell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Stamper I like the FB idea. Easy, cheap and very user friendly. Just what OBC wants. John Stamper On Jul 4, 2016, at 12:30 PM, "Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of ourinteractions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free andwould require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the > Just my two coppers... > Unsolicitedly yours, > Jake Sr. > On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I=E2=99ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that=E2=A6=E2=A6.. >> Grant >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM >> To: LAWRENCE TIPTON >> Cc: OBC Ramblings >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist >> I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive >> On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. >> Guru ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Taylor Schock Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beatthe ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours, Jake Sr. On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > I'll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, likethe message board format of Net54. ================= To: Taylor Schock , OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:35:40 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: richard dingman I agree with Taylor, I would hate to go to facebook. Maybe I'm just old but I have no use for FB and would rather not get involved in adding that back into my life. Have been FB-free for many happy years. I probably would go there now and then if necessary ... but maybe not. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beatthe ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the membership. Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours, Jake Sr. On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] I=92ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has alreadydone OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, likethe message board format of Net54. ================= Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 17:36:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Ken M We can have BOTH. Facebook is easier to post photos. You can always link the FB page on this server if you have photos to share. I don't think the overwhelming majority of messages here have photos attatched. Just a thought, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Jul 4, 2016 5:11 PMTo: OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebookand deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years.Regards, From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist  What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the membership.  Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours,Jake Sr. On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I’ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that…….. Grant From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist   I agree. Any idea what the cost would be?  I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. ================= To: "'richard dingman'" , Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 15:06:33 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: "Grant Rainsley" I confirmed with Jake that you do have to have a Facebook account....I for one, don't have one, never have, and never will...call me a Luddite...I'm sure I'm not alone. So it might be good for some, but not others....and as Ken mentioned, no reason why you can't have both if you want them.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:36 PM To: Taylor Schock; OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree with Taylor, I would hate to go to facebook. Maybe I'm just old but I have no use for FB and would rather not get involved in adding that back into my life. Have been FB-free for many happy years. I probably would go there now and then if necessary ... but maybe not. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the membership. Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours, Jake Sr. On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I'll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 17:11:47 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Aaron Shirley ================= To: "'Grant Rainsley'" , Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:20:18 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: "Bob Donaldson" Facebook would not be the answer as I'm sure a large number of us have no interest in using it. There seem to be a number of groups I am in that use bulletin board software like Net54. Much easier to use than Yahoo, especially with pictures. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 6:07 PM To: 'richard dingman' ; 'Taylor Schock' ; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I confirmed with Jake that you do have to have a Facebook account....I for one, don't have one, never have, and never will...call me a Luddite...I'm sure I'm not alone. So it might be good for some, but not others....and as Ken mentioned, no reason why you can't have both if you want them.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:36 PM To: Taylor Schock; OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree with Taylor, I would hate to go to facebook. Maybe I'm just old but I have no use for FB and would rather not get involved in adding that back into my life. Have been FB-free for many happy years. I probably would go there now and then if necessary ... but maybe not. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > on behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the membership. Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours, Jake Sr. On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: I'll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:28:00 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Mike Galbreath I do have a Facebook account, but I use an alias. There is just too much information out there on FB (restaurants, other sports and entertainment groups, etc.) that I want to have access to, but I don't want friend requests and all the other personal stuff. I have not had a problem using an alias and would request that I be allowed to use it if OBC ever goes the FB route. On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:06 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I confirmed with Jake that you do have to have a Facebook account=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.I > one, don=E2=99t have one, never have, and never will=E2=A6=E2=A6.call me a Luddite=E2=A6=E2=A6.I=E2=99m > sure I=E2=99m not alone. So it might be good for some, but not others=E2=A6=E2=A6..and > Ken mentioned, no reason why you can=E2=99t have both if you want them=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *richard dingman > brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2016 2:36 PM > *To:* Taylor Schock; OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > I agree with Taylor, I would hate to go to facebook. Maybe I'm just old > but I have no use for FB and would rather not get involved in adding that > back into my life. Have been FB-free for many happy years. > I probably would go there now and then if necessary ... but maybe not. > Richard D > ------------------------------ > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I > would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other > crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in > the past couple of years. > Regards, > Taylor > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM > *Cc:* OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our > interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and > Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat > the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and > would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for > the membership. > Just my two coppers... > Unsolicitedly yours, > Jake Sr. > On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I=E2=99ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone hasalready > done that=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [ > mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM > *To:* LAWRENCE TIPTON > *Cc:* OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive > On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the > limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would > sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like > the message board format of Net54. > Guru ================= To: "'Bob Donaldson'" , Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:31:07 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: "Grant Rainsley" Sorry if you get this twice, not sure if my first one made it out or not...from Leon at Net 54: HI Grant We use Vbulletin v 3.8.x s/w and I bought a license for it. It is a about $200, and is a onetime purchase...and I pay approx.. $120 per month for hosting ( you can get cheaper but we need the bandwidth) and there is a technical person paid monthly for technical help in doing html and programming on the site (mainly for ads and aesthetic changes). It's a great software and has a ton of functionality. I guess it depends on what ya'll want to do. I like it..... From: Bob Donaldson [mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 3:20 PM To: 'Grant Rainsley'; 'richard dingman'; 'Taylor Schock'; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist Facebook would not be the answer as I'm sure a large number of us have no interest in using it. There seem to be a number of groups I am in that use bulletin board software like Net54. Much easier to use than Yahoo, especially with pictures. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 6:07 PM To: 'richard dingman' ; 'Taylor Schock' ; 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I confirmed with Jake that you do have to have a Facebook account....I for one, don't have one, never have, and never will...call me a Luddite...I'm sure I'm not alone. So it might be good for some, but not others....and as Ken mentioned, no reason why you can't have both if you want them.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:36 PM To: Taylor Schock; OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree with Taylor, I would hate to go to facebook. Maybe I'm just old but I have no use for FB and would rather not get involved in adding that back into my life. Have been FB-free for many happy years. I probably would go there now and then if necessary ... but maybe not. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of our interactions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free and would require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the membership. Just my two coppers... Unsolicitedly yours, Jake Sr. On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I'll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:22:56 -0700 Subject: Net 54 Board.... From: "Grant Rainsley" Here ya go gang........from Leon at Net 54..... -----Original Message----- From: leon luckey [mailto:leonl@flash.net] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 3:51 PM To: 'grainsley @ Net54baseball.com Forums' Subject: RE: Net 54 Board.... HI Grant We use Vbulletin v 3.8.x s/w and I bought a license for it. It is a about $200, and is a onetime purchase...and I pay approx.. $120 per month for hosting ( you can get cheaper but we need the bandwidth) and there is a technical person paid monthly for technical help in doing html and programming on the site (mainly for ads and aesthetic changes). It's a great software and has a ton of functionality. I guess it depends on what ya'll want to do. I like it..... ================= Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:56:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: Ken M Can we add a bulletin board to the OBC site? Not like that one we had on there before that was basically a spam magnet. How about adding something like phpBB, myBB or proBoards? Can we make it password protected or nest it somehow? Just wondering, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:05:12 -0400 To: Mike Galbreath Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist From: "Thomas W. Billing" How do you get to view these cards? Overtime I click on noe of the images in this email, it tells me that I cannot view it without being a member, which I am. > I do have a Facebook account, but I use an alias. There is just too muchinformation out there on FB (restaurants, other sports and entertainment groups, etc.) that I want to have access to, but I don't want friend requests and all the other personal stuff. I have not had a problem using an aliasand would request that I be allowed to use it if OBC ever goes the FB route. > Mike > On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:06 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > > I confirmed with Jake that you do have to have a Facebook account=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.I for one, don=E2=99t have one, never have, and never will=E2=A6=E2=A6.call me a Luddite=E2=A6=E2=A6.I=E2=99m sure I=E2=99m not alone. So it might be good for some, but not others=E2=A6=E2=A6..and as Ken mentioned, no reason why you can=E2=99t haveboth if you want them=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of richard dingman brightair@msn.com > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 2:36 PM > To: Taylor Schock; OBC Ramblings > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > I agree with Taylor, I would hate to go to facebook. Maybe I'm just old but I have no use for FB and would rather not get involved in adding that back into my life. Have been FB-free for many happy years. > I probably would go there now and then if necessary ... but maybe not. > Richard D > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 21:11:20 +0000 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > Are there more issues/concerns that JUST seeing pics inline? If not, I would just LOATHE having to go back to facebook and deal with all the other crap that is associated with it. I have probably logged in once or twice in the past couple of years. > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > onbehalf of Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 3:30 PM > Cc: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > What if we migrated over to the OBC Private Facebook group for all of ourinteractions? Wouldn't that be the natural next step? To me, both Net54 and Yahoo Groups feel very outdated. Facebook has its issues but you can't beat the ease of inter-communicating and photo management. Also it's free andwould require almost no set-up time on anyone's part, nor new log-ins for the > Just my two coppers... > Unsolicitedly yours, > Jake Sr. > On Jul 4, 2016, at 3:23 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] > > I=E2=99ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone hasalready done that=E2=A6=E2=A6.. > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM > To: LAWRENCE TIPTON > Cc: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist > I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive > On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of thelimitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:09:40 -0400 To: grains@shaw.ca, obcbobd@gmail.com, larrytipton@windstream.net Subject: OBC Websites From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Why not assess each OBC member a one time charge of say, 50 bucks, and pay someone to modernize what we have (both OBC and Yahoo), with any unused funds going to charity? From what I've seen, many guys in this group are spending that much weekly on cards. Best regards, In a message dated 07/04/2016 3:23:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I=E2=99ll ask Leon over on Net 54 how costly it is, unless someone has already done that=E2=A6=E2=A6.. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:33 AM To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A card that should not exist I agree. Any idea what the cost would be? I assume it would be prohibitive On Monday, July 4, 2016, LAWRENCE TIPTON _larrytipton@windstream.net_ (mailto:larrytipton@windstream.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Patricks well written and interesting message is a perfect example of the limitations of the Yahoo Groups format that has served us so well. It would sure be nice to have the pictures inserted in the body of his message, like the message board format of Net54. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 19:22:52 -0500 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: OBC Nick P Interesting how much he's already dropped his price 18% in fewer than 24 hours. Two price drops today, but who is watching? Nick Pelletier > On Jul 4, 2016, at 12:09 AM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Its gotta be in OBC. One of us is just gonna have to eat the bullet and pick it up. > One-Two-Three-.... "Not it !!!" > Wes Shepard > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> http://m.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-94-Ernie-Banks-Rc-Altered-colored-paperloss-pinhole-Filler-poor4-bk-/252446513882?navSEARCH >> Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 23:33:59 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Delayed fireworks From: richard dingman We had a bear on our street today also, about 100 yards from the house. From the description I'd say it was the same bear. Richard D To: cardclctor@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 01:08:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Delayed fireworks Hey Ken I live in the foothills of the Appalachian. I once mailed myself a letter and it took two weeks to get it. We have running water and electricity. The county even bought 2 new snow plows. They are hoping to get the mules to pull them before the next snow. This picture was taken today about a quarter mile from my home. On Monday, July 4, 2016 1:41 AM, "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: Hi gang, Got to enjoy the perfect weather today by playing some softball. I play pickup games every Sunday. Afterwards, I have enough time to gethome, shower and head right to work, where I was sweating again throwing pallets of water out on the sales floor. Short shift today though, since apparently the company will go bankrupt if they pay me a full shift of Sunday OT. Got home and my migraine got worse, so I took some aspirin and a nap. Slept right through any fireworks too. Drawback is I'm wide awake now with nothing to do but type up a ramble :-) I put the last of my waiver wires inthe mail Thursday night. (Using a highly intensive series of coin flips and die rolls) I drew the winning names for the finale Saturday morning and handed the envelopes to the postal carr ier just before I left for work. Almost everything is expected to arrive in mailboxes everywhere Tuesday. Everywhere except Memphis, TN - which is expected on Thursday. How come they're two days slower than packages going across the continent to WA and CA? and it's not like it's a remote location in the Appalachians either ...unless my perception of Memphis is way off base. (They got an airport, running water and everything, right?) The response to my last waiver wasn't as much as I had expected - probably only 12-15 people who actually put in a claim (most of those were for the 1960 card, which I did expect). I was toying with a couple ideas on distributing them like 1) addressing an envelope to everyone who put in a claim, turning them over randomly putting in either a Mantle or one of my 1955 knockoff OBC cards. I nixed that because I might've sent the Post to someone who claimed the 58 or vice versa. 2) Again, address an envelope to everyone who put in a claim and (after selecting the winners) send everyone three cards: my OBC card AND either two unclaimed cards OR an unclaimed card and a Mantle in the middle... like getting a golden ticket in a Wonka bar. (I was even going to put W. Wonka as the return address.) Decided against that as cruel and unusual punishment. So I endedup just addressing 3 envelopes and putting in a short note with the card. I don't think I wrote anything with any of the other waiver claims. Here's my blanket note for the rest if you got or will get an envelope from me: "Hi (insert your name here), Here's your waiver claim. Thanks for helping me celebrate 20 years in OBC. Enjoy, Ken M" Thanks also to those who didn't put in a claim but sent good wishes and congratulations on my anniversary. It's been a pleasure being a part of this grou p and I cherish the friendships I've made with you guys, many of whom havebeen there for 15+ years. Here's to another 20 years and many more after that!Ken MSent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 23:58:23 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.6 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Note the new addition of Wayne Delia, who I probably haven't seen in 127 years! Pop me over your cell number and try to rearrange the ol' schedule to make the swap! Need a few cell numbers on this list gents. I am still working on trying to get us a few badges. It's a long shot, but we still have a glimmer of hope. Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 W-Sa Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Rob Fitts Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Y Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Y F-Sa Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Sat Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 07:09:02 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: OBC and Yahoo From: Glenn Codere I'd also throw in the fact that I personally hate the way that Yahoo Mail is handled on mobile devices these days. Rather than displaying each messageindividually, it bundles mail messages by topic making it real easy to miss someone's responses. I would love to see us move to a message board type of platform but fully understand that it would certainly be a lot of work for someone. GlennGlenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= Date: 05 Jul 2016 07:26:30 -0700 To: Subject: WAIVER Wire continues: 1972 Topps BB From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: yahoogroups , Glenn Codere Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 15:41:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC and Yahoo From: Taylor Schock Not to minimize any concerns with yahoo groups/hosting, but to be fair, that sounds like a 'problem' with yahoo mail or the mobile mail setup and not yahoo groups/hosting. The mail I receive on my phone are individual emails and not bundled by topic. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 3:09 AM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC and Yahoo I'd also throw in the fact that I personally hate the way that Yahoo Mail is handled on mobile devices these days. Rather than displaying each messageindividually, it bundles mail messages by topic making it real easy to miss someone's responses. I would love to see us move to a message board type of platform but fully understand that it would certainly be a lot of work for someone. Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:32:31 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: A card that should not exist From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I dropped Facebook a couple of years ago, and really just don=E2=99t like My thinking is if we went to a message board system (like Net54) it would replace both our yahoo groups email servers, and our current webpage. If youthen went to old baseball dot com it would take you to the message board. There you would post Ramblings Thanks etc, and also be able to access the OBC Directory, all members wantlists, and all the info that is currently archived on our website. All information would be on the message board. I don=E2=99t even know if this is possible? If we drop yahoo groups and switch to a message board, and still have our OBC webpage, I don=E2=99t know if that=E2=99s a great improvement. I could be wrong. I was super energized about this a couple days ago, but admit I have lost steam on this matter. Maybe because it=E2=99s 95 degrees outside LOL! Yahoo groups has served OBC very well, I=E2=99ve always said that. I just think the OBC experience would be greatly improved if messages contained pictures (like on Net54). I know the OBC website is old, but again has served us very very well, functions great, and always meets my needs. We RARELY have problems with it. Before I go any further I want to post a big public thank you to Joe Issac and Wayne Delia for all the years of maintenance, tech support, and updating they do on our website. All voluntary efforts and thanks for all the years of work to make OBC great! =E2=9Cold dudes don=E2=99t like change=E2=9D Nobody likes change. But we have to keep moving OBC forward! I certainly don=E2=99t know what would work best for our needs. I do know that NO member can be left behind, some of us will require help. OK, there might be one or two rules that some of us old guys will defend tothe death I am sure you know what I am talking about LOL. If you are not one of us =E2=9Cold guys=E2=9D, and you have an idea that will improve OBC, I hope you pursue it. We=E2=99ve been doing this for twenty-five years! Thanks for all the volunteers over the years! Don=E2=99t be afraid to push your idea forward because =E2=9Cold guysdon=E2=99t like change=E2=9D. It=E2=99s your OBC too! ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:55:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: A card that should not exist From: richard dingman As one of the old guys, I wouldn't mind some change, just don't ever use facebook and would rather not. However, I go to net54 frequently and like it. One advantage to being on net54 would be exposure of OBC to many more collectors, people who also use net54 but don't know OBC and who might check us out. Some may become members. Also want to add my thanks to everyone who has helped over the years with web access, tweaking and tech help! Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:32:31 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: A card that should not exist I dropped Facebook a couple of years ago, and really just don=92t like My thinking is if we went to a message board system (like Net54) it would replace both our yahoo groups email servers, and our current webpage. If youthen went to old baseball dot com it would take you to the message board. There you would post Ramblings Thanks etc, and also be able to access the OBC Directory, all members wantlists, and all the info that is currently archived on our website. All information would be on the message board. I don=92t even know if this is possible? If we drop yahoo groups and switch to amessage board, and still have our OBC webpage, I don=92t know if that=92s a great improvement. I could be wrong. I was super energized about this a couple days ago, but admit I have lost steam on this matter. Maybe because it=92s 95 degrees outside LOL! Yahoo groups has served OBC very well, I=92ve always said that. I just think the OBCexperience would be greatly improved if messages contained pictures (like on Net54). I know the OBC website is old, but again has served us very verywell, functions great, and always meets my needs. We RARELY have problems with Before I go any further I want to post a big public thank you to Joe Issac and Wayne Delia for all the years of maintenance, tech support, and updating they do on our website. All voluntary efforts and thanks for all the years of work to make OBC great! =93old dudes don=92t like change=94 Nobody likes change. But we have to keep moving OBC forward! I certainly don=92t know what would work best for our needs. I do know that NO member canbe left behind, some of us will require help. OK, there might be one or two rules that some of us old guys will defend tothe death I am sure you know what I am talking about LOL. If you are not one of us =93old guys=94, and you have an idea that will improve OBC, I hope you pursue it. We=92ve been doing this for twenty-five years! Thanks for all the volunteers over the years! Don=92t be afraid to push your idea forward because =93old guys don=92t like change=94. It=92s your OBC too! ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 17:23:08 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: A card that should not exist From: Jake Brewer This will be my first chiming in on this topic; and I am by far the group'syoungest (no offense guys ha). The one pro I see with the current yahoo groups situation is that I can easily access it on my phone anywhere. That being said I could access a Net54 style message board anywhere with mysmart phone; so that's not a huge deal. I am 100% in favor of combining the yahoo groups email system into one forum style website. There could be different sub-forums for thanks, the directory, wantlists, links to personal websites, ramblings, dealer scum- and most of all a place to share pictures. One of my absolute FAVORITE things to do in this hobby is look at other people's collections through pictures. I love mailday posts on other forums tosee what people are picking up/completing. Not only that, but it would be much more searchable for posts on a forum site as opposed to searching through these emails. (I don't know about ya'll,but I'm not trying to keep 10,000 emails on my phone to look up something someone emailed a month ago) when I could easily find it on a forum. That's my two cents on why I'd be in favor of moving it to that. Regardless of what happens, I really love OBC as it has been a blast so far. I do want to see it advance though as more of my generation gets into vintage as OBC hopefully grows! -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2016, at 4:32 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I dropped Facebook a couple of years ago, and really just don=E2=99t like > My thinking is if we went to a message board system (like Net54) it wouldreplace both our yahoo groups email servers, and our current webpage. If you then went to old baseball dot com it would take you to the message board. There you would post Ramblings Thanks etc, and also be able to access theOBC Directory, all members wantlists, and all the info that is currently archived on our website. All information would be on the message board. I don=E2=99t even know if this is possible? If we drop yahoo groups and switch to a message board, and still have our OBC webpage, I don=E2=99t knowif that=E2=99s a great improvement. I could be wrong. > I was super energized about this a couple days ago, but admit I have loststeam on this matter. Maybe because it=E2=99s 95 degrees outside LOL! Yahoo groups has served OBC very well, I=E2=99ve always said that. I justthink the OBC experience would be greatly improved if messages contained pictures (like on Net54). I know the OBC website is old, but again has served us very very well, functions great, and always meets my needs. We RARELY have problems with it. > Before I go any further I want to post a big public thank you to Joe Issac and Wayne Delia for all the years of maintenance, tech support, and updating they do on our website. All voluntary efforts and thanks for all the years of work to make OBC great! > =E2=9Cold dudes don=E2=99t like change=E2=9D > Nobody likes change. But we have to keep moving OBC forward! I certainly don=E2=99t know what would work best for our needs. I do know that NO member can be left behind, some of us will require help. > OK, there might be one or two rules that some of us old guys will defend to the death I am sure you know what I am talking about LOL. > If you are not one of us =E2=9Cold guys=E2=9D, and you have an ideathat will improve OBC, I hope you pursue it. We=E2=99ve been doing thisfor twenty-five years! Thanks for all the volunteers over the years! > Don=E2=99t be afraid to push your idea forward because =E2=9Cold guys don=E2=99t like change=E2=9D. It=E2=99s your OBC too! > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 17:49:53 -0400 To: "" Subject: "Great Investment" card on EBay From: Doug I am amazed a 1979 Football card can get this type of price. Mine looks almost as nice and I will sell it for a significant discount! http://www.ebay.com/itm/361621513463?_trksidp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Doug DeJong Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 20:19:17 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I swear I just don't get it. The auction houses are going to make it very hard for the average collector to pursue being a set collector. I've said it before, most times they get the most INSANE prices for cards that aren't even close to having that kind of worth. Almost like trying to take a family to a ball game at Yankee Stadium. I don't know how they even get bids to get that high. Just like, if it's too good to be true... Maybe I'm too old school, but we used to call things that happened like this "shill bidding". Are they above board? Who knows. I do know that crap like this makes me kind of disillusioned that I can some day get my Topps run anywhere near <250 cards. Maybe I should consign my 74 Mario Mendoza cards, I'm sure the auction houses can get me at least $10 each for them... :-( Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/6/2016 5:49:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I am amazed a 1979 Football card can get this type of price. Mine looks almost as nice and I will sell it for a significant discount! http://www.ebay.com/itm/361621513463?_trksidp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName Doug DeJong Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 20:31:07 -0400 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay From: ShoelessWes Probstein 123 i believe Shill Bids their items. I have never bid on their stuff... They just keep selling their own stuff to themselves, until eventually the market value realizes higher and higher.... They wanna become a major auction house... I do not have proof, but sometimes you call em like yousee There have been discussions on net54 about them too. They are not cared formuch. Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:19 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I swear I just don't get it. The auction houses are going to make it veryhard for the average collector to pursue being a set collector. I've said it before, most times they get the most INSANE prices for cards that aren'teven close to having that kind of worth. Almost like trying to take a family to a ball game at Yankee Stadium. I don't know how they even get bids toget that high. Just like, if it's too good to be true... Maybe I'm too oldschool, but we used to call things that happened like this "shill bidding". Are they above board? Who knows. I do know that crap like this makes me kind of disillusioned that I can some day get my Topps run anywhere near < 250 cards. Maybe I should consign my 74 Mario Mendoza cards, I'm sure the auction houses can get me at least $10 each for them... :-( > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 7/6/2016 5:49:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > I am amazed a 1979 Football card can get this type of price. Mine looks almost as nice and I will sell it for a significant discount! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/361621513463?_trksidp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT > Doug DeJong > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:48:20 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay From: Ken M This is everything that's wrong with the HOBBY. Just for grins, I looked up the SMR of the card. Even though it was listed as a ludicrous $3750, somebody did bid that amount - and FIVE people bid more than them (and there's still a couple hours to go). People with more money than brains get into a p***ing match and everyone loses - especially the 99.99% of people who don't absolutely need a gem mint 10 in their collection. This raises the price of every example of the card, whether it's slabbed or unslabbed, mint or poor. The seller (probstein) is shady at best. I wouldn't doubt there's something underhanded going on. Even if there isn't anything crooked, it's stupidness (which isn't even good enough to be considered stupidity). Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 5:49 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 20:59:17 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay From: "Thomas W. Billing" Amen to these thoughts. People trying to get rich off of collectors shouldget lost. I wish that we would all NOT bid or buy their stuff. I am watching a couple things form =E2=9CToppsaholic=E2=9D who has eye-poppingprices on many items. Check this one out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/122031628474?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT. He will not deal at all so I intend to just keep watching as it runs for 30 days, gets resisted, runs 30 days, etc. Tom Billing > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > This is everything that's wrong with the HOBBY. Just for grins, I looked up the SMR of the card. Even though it was listed as a ludicrous $3750, somebody did bid that amount - and FIVE people bid more than them (and there'sstill a couple hours to go). People with more money than brains get into ap***ing match and everyone loses - especially the 99.99% of people who don't absolutely need a gem mint 10 in their collection. This raises the priceof every example of the card, whether it's slabbed or unslabbed, mint or poor. The seller (probstein) is shady at best. I wouldn't doubt there's something underhanded going on. Even if there isn't anything crooked, it's stupidness (which isn't even good enough to be considered stupidity). Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Dougddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 5:49 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Rambling! s] "Great Investment" card on EBay > I am amazed a 1979 Football card can get this type of price. Mine looks almost as nice and I will sell it for a significant discount!http://www.ebay.com/itm/361621513463?_trksidp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AM= EBIDX%3AITDoug DeJongSent from my iPad------------------------------------Posted by: Doug ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Al though discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing car ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 20:13:08 -0500 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay From: OBC Nick P I won't do business with probstein. A couple nationals ago another obcer and I were going around looking for a 62 rookie parade to kill somebody's set. We found one at probsteins table listed for $25. We weren't going to to over $20. We offered $20 and the table lackey had to talk to the boss. The boss never even acknowledged the offer, just continued his conversation. Ok, our money isn't good enough for you shove it. I'll keep my cash. I've followed topsaholic off and on a few times. I think I've made two deals with them ever. They put silly prices on things. Their titles are almost as disturbing-like the Koufax-everything is a 1:1. No thanks. PWCC is one I've seen quite a bit of talk about shill bidding. I can't prove it. I don't know if it's true. But like the Campbell they seem to get a lot of silly numbers on cards. This garbage is ruining our hobby. Rant complete-for now. Nick Pelletier > On Jul 6, 2016, at 7:59 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Amen to these thoughts. People trying to get rich off of collectors should get lost. I wish that we would all NOT bid or buy their stuff. I am watching a couple things form =E2=9CToppsaholic=E2=9D who has eye-popping prices on many items. Check this one out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/122031628474?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT. will not deal at all so I intend to just keep watching as it runs for 30 days, gets resisted, runs 30 days, etc. > Tom Billing >> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> This is everything that's wrong with the HOBBY. Just for grins, I lookedup the SMR of the card. Even though it was listed as a ludicrous $3750, somebody did bid that amount - and FIVE people bid more than them (and there's still a couple hours to go). People with more money than brains get into a p***ing match and everyone loses - especially the 99.99% of people who don't absolutely need a gem mint 10 in their collection. This raises the price of every example of the card, whether it's slabbed or unslabbed, mint or poor. The seller (probstein) is shady at best. I wouldn't doubt there's something underhanded going on. Even if there isn't anything crooked, it's stupidness (which isn't even good enough to be considered stupidity). Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent, >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 5:49 PM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>; >> Cc: >> Subject:[OBC-Rambling! s] "Great Investment" card on EBay >> I am amazed a 1979 Football card can get this type of price. Mine looksalmost as nice and I will sell it for a significant discount!http://www.ebay.com/itm/361621513463?_trksidp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3A= MEBIDX%3AITDoug DeJongSent from my iPad------------------------------------Posted by: Doug ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing car ================= Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 23:02:28 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Great Investment" card on EBay From: ShoelessWes I remember clearly, that was me you were with at the national, at probsteintable. I couldnt believe they wouldnt even talk to us or at least look over and shake their heads 'no' to a reasonable offer.... Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 6, 2016, at 9:13 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I won't do business with probstein. A couple nationals ago another obcerand I were going around looking for a 62 rookie parade to kill somebody's set. We found one at probsteins table listed for $25. We weren't going toto over $20. We offered $20 and the table lackey had to talk to the boss.The boss never even acknowledged the offer, just continued his conversation. Ok, our money isn't good enough for you shove it. I'll keep my cash. > I've followed topsaholic off and on a few times. I think I've made two deals with them ever. They put silly prices on things. Their titles are almost as disturbing-like the Koufax-everything is a 1:1. No thanks. > PWCC is one I've seen quite a bit of talk about shill bidding. I can't prove it. I don't know if it's true. But like the Campbell they seem to get a lot of silly numbers on cards. > This garbage is ruining our hobby. > Rant complete-for now. > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com >> On Jul 6, 2016, at 7:59 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Amen to these thoughts. People trying to get rich off of collectors should get lost. I wish that we would all NOT bid or buy their stuff. I am watching a couple things form =E2=9CToppsaholic=E2=9D who has eye-popping prices on many items. Check this one out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/122031628474?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT. will not deal at all so I intend to just keep watching as it runs for 30days, gets resisted, runs 30 days, etc. >> Tom Billing >>> On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> This is everything that's wrong with the HOBBY. Just for grins, I looked up the SMR of the card. Even though it was listed as a ludicrous $3750, somebody did bid that amount - and FIVE people bid more than them (and there's still a couple hours to go). People with more money than brains get intoa p***ing match and everyone loses - especially the 99.99% of people who don't absolutely need a gem mint 10 in their collection. This raises the price of every example of the card, whether it's slabbed or unslabbed, mint orpoor. The seller (probstein) is shady at best. I wouldn't doubt there's something underhanded going on. Even if there isn't anything crooked, it's stupidness (which isn't even good enough to be considered stupidity). Rant over. Thanks for letting me vent, >>> Ken M >>> Sent from my not so smart phone. >>> ------ Original message------ >>> From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2016 5:49 PM >>> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>; >>> Cc: >>> Subject:[OBC-Rambling! s] "Great Investment" card on EBay >>> I am amazed a 1979 Football card can get this type of price. Mine looks almost as nice and I will sell it for a significant discount!http://www.ebay.com/itm/361621513463?_trksidp2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3= AMEBIDX%3AITDoug DeJongSent from my iPad------------------------------------Posted by: Doug ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged onRamblings, please remember that when referencing car ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 15:53:15 +0000 Subject: Bowman help From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I saw this Jackie card on the evilbay, and for kicks and giggles I put in what I thought was an obscene offer (well over half off) that was immediately accepted. That made me curious and I want a second opinion.... Any red flags here I am missing? Thanks for the help. Be happy, https://www.ebay.com/itm/331900574550 Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 11:57:52 -0400 To: Jo Meyer and John Gray Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Bowman help From: "Thomas W. Billing" Nope. It is in poor condition and slabbed so I see it as a good deal. Congrats. Tom Billing > On Jul 7, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Jo Meyer and John Gray meyergray@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > My friends, > I saw this Jackie card on the evilbay, and for kicks and giggles I put inwhat I thought was an obscene offer (well over half off) that was immediately accepted. That made me curious and I want a second opinion.... Any red flags here I am missing? Thanks for the help. > Be happy, > JSG > https://www.ebay.com/itm/331900574550 > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 16:58:06 +0000 Subject: Re: Dayton Find, READ READ READ From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, The news of this fantastic find led me to dip my toes in the water, and I bought a starter of seven of the football 'cards', including two HOFers. Now that I have the cards, I am trying to pin down more info on the full run of cards (baseball, football, golf, etc.) and have had a difficult time - even using the google machine seems to not provide me the info I am looking for (a comprehensive checklist, or at least a checklist for the football). Any help would be greatly appreciated! Be happy, John Scott Gray Sent from Outlook ================= Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:16:49 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Well I won the lot. Of course there was snipe bidding that drove up my winning bid. Just not all the way to the maximum. I won at $66.11, instead of the $66.29 maximum bid I had entered! WooHoo. I now have $.18 left in the budget to buy something else. I will not be home to look at the cards until mid/end of August. Many lookto be upgrades for the ones I do not need. For those that wanted to get in on this, send me an e-mail after August 20 as a reminder. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: rick.lyons22 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2016 9:30 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela I bid $66.29 and am currently the high bidder at $50.99. I need 10, but almost all would be upgrades for me. If the 1 you need is not 1 of the 10 I need, it is yours if I win. I would guess it is 1 of the 10 I need though. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 3, 2016 4:33 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela No bids yet three days to go cards look pretty nice for Venezuelans only need one card out of the lot. Don't want to buy the whole lot for one card anyone interested in the lot? Rick View item: 1966 Venezuelan Topps Group Lot of 33 Venezuela End Time: Jul 6, 2016, 6:00:43 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 07 Jul 2016 13:49:43 -0700 To: Subject: Mike Rich trip From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 07 Jul 2016 14:23:26 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Dayton Find, READ READ READ From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 07 Jul 2016 14:36:16 -0700 To: Subject: 1970s Waiver continues- 1973 Topps baseball From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 07 Jul 2016 15:53:50 -0700 To: Subject: Re: 1954 Topps 94 Ernie Banks RC Altered Colored Paperloss Pinhole Filler POOR4 BK | eBay From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 09:11:52 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hockey and Football Cards Available - FCFS From: Kent Just started cleaning out my dup boxes again and here is what I have available (if any interest please include your address of course to speed up the mailing process): Hockey Cards 1970-71 OPC - 98 1974-75 OPC - 80 87 164 237 298 332 364 1976-77 OPC - 261 1977-78 OPC - 54 199 213 226 276 285 294 303 312 320 336 340 354(x2) 358 367 376(x2) 384 394 Also have more OPC Hockey available on UV server 1969-70 Topps - 108 1972-73 Topps - 35(x3) 52(x3) 86(x4) 136 9x4) 147(x3) 1973-74 Topps - 151(x2) 1977-78 Topps - 19 21 54 60 113 123 130 136 163 167 174 175 184 190 209(x2) 230 246 255 1978-79 Topps - 131 1979-80 Topps - 257 Football Cards 1969 Topps - 2(x2) 10 14(x2) 18(x2) 21(x3) 22 23 24 28 30 41 42 48(x3) 49(x2) 56(x2) 63 65 66 71 79(x2) 82(x2) 84 87 88 89 90 91 95 104 107 108 110(x2) 112 113(x2) 118 119 125 129 134 142 145 147(x2( 152 159 169 174(x23) 178(x2) 179(x2) 182 233(x2) 242 251 252 259 263(x2) ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 11:03:13 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Anniversary, vacation, and baseball trip From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I'm getting ready to head out for the weekend with my bride of 15 years on a cheap get-a-way to Columbus, so I'll be out of commission until Sunday. Although I will likely still have Wifi....just no cards in front of me to play Some other things coming up, we are headed to Virginia Beach from July 30th- August 8th, so it'll be tough to do much with cards obviously then. However, I think I'm meeting up with an OBCer on that trip, so that'll be cool! Also, those in the KC and St. Louis area check your calendars, as me and some buddies are headed that way on October 1/2 to watch games in both stadiums for the last series of the year. It would be cool to see others I don'tnormally get to see! Alright....I'm out! :) Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 12:18:59 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com Subject: Shirts are here! From: Aaron Shirley x-apple-part-url=5497FE53-B0AF-48C3-A10B-54B6D4CC5E30; name="image1.JPG" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image1.JPG" ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 13:33:31 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shirts are here! [1 Attachment] From: Jake Brewer Sweet! I was just thinking about that today. -Jake (Jr., The Kid) Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Aaron Shirley included below] > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 14:07:58 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Football Set Run Completed! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Todays mail brought two cards that completed my 1951-1981 Topps football set run. One eBay purchase (1972 Topps HI #266 Rayfield Wright) and one auction win 1951 Topps =E2=9CMagic=E2=9D #4 Babe Parilli. It seems like a long time ago, but I started collecting football cards at the 2012 Baltimore National Convention. Steve Rittenberg gave me several starter sets from the 1970s, and I was on my way! Thanks for all the help OBC! ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 15:05:56 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Football Set Run Completed! From: chris tripler Does that mean hockey is next? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:07 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Todays mail brought two cards that completed my 1951-1981 Topps football set run. One eBay purchase (1972 Topps HI #266 Rayfield Wright) and one auction win 1951 Topps =E2=9CMagic=E2=9D #4 Babe Parilli. > It seems like a long time ago, but I started collecting football cards atthe 2012 Baltimore National Convention. Steve Rittenberg gave me several starter sets from the 1970s, and I was on my way! > Thanks for all the help OBC! > Guru ================= Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 15:23:35 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Football Set Run Complete! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Chris: I=E2=99ve already completed =E2=9954-81 Topps Hockey, but I could use twelve 1957 Topps basketball cards to complete that run:) ================= Date: 08 Jul 2016 13:02:57 -0700 To: Subject: Not at all card related but a great lesson From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 14:26:45 -0400 To: OBC-DealerScum Subject: Waiver wire From: Rob Bessette A couple up for grabs, FCFS. Please include address. 1959 Topps 328, 402, 443 1961 Topps 9, 216 1962 Topps 89 1963 Topps 101 ================= Date: 09 Jul 2016 13:35:52 -0700 To: Subject: Got lucky From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 01:14:58 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Columbus From: OBC Nick P Is anybody going to be at the Columbus show JD Heckathorn puts on the end of July? I think the show dates are July 30:31. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: 10 Jul 2016 06:32:50 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Columbus From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:55:44 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Selling on eBay can be fun From: LAWRENCE TIPTON A couple of days ago, I stopped at a local antique =E2=9Cmall=E2=9D. I=E2=99ve passed this place at least 500 times over the years, and don=E2=99t know why I never stopped. It=E2=99s on the way to my sons house on the island. What am I looking for? I=E2=99ll let you know when I see it LOL! I know we have a few =E2=9CSpace Program=E2=9D fans. Sal, Glenn, and myself, collect Topps =E2=9CMan on the Moon=E2=9D cards. Anyway, something caught my eye and it was cheap, so I bought it. A vintage looking Revell plastic model kit =E2=9CRedstone Booster Mercury Capsule=E2=9D cost was two bucks. When I got home, I looked on eBay, and there was one other listing for thisitem. The seller says it=E2=99s from 1961, and kind of rare. He has hislisted for $130 OBO. His kit is in mint condition, the model kit I bought is in typical OBC condition LOL! I don=E2=99t sell to much on eBay, I don=E2=99t think I=E2=99ve ever sold a baseball card (nothing wrong with this) but I think I=E2=99ve sold a few non sports cards. Anyway I listed the model kit on eBay and I=E2=99ll include the link. I=E2=99m not trying to hype the item I hope it doesn=E2=99t come off like that. It=E2=99s just kind of fun to listan item and see what happens. I did open the auction at $10 and so far there are two bids, 36 views, and 14 people watching the auction, with over five days left. 14 people watching tells me it might do OK. The current high bidders ID is =E2=9Coldmodelcollector=E2=9D It will be a fun item to watch and see what this $2 pick-up goes for! http://www.ebay.com/itm/291814246359?ssPageNameSTRK:MESELX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1555.l2649 ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:45:38 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Selling on eBay can be fun From: Mike Glasser I believe I saw this on either American Pickers or that pawn show. Someonebought one at a yard sale and it was a very limited edition model. I'd check into that as they valued it quite higher. Great find Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD 14630 York Rd Sparks, MD 21152 > On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:55 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > A couple of days ago, I stopped at a local antique =E2=9Cmall=E2=9D. I=E2=99ve passed this place at least 500 times over the years, and don=E2=99t know why I never stopped. It=E2=99s on the way to my sons house on the island. What am I looking for? I=E2=99ll let you know when I see it LOL! > I know we have a few =E2=9CSpace Program=E2=9D fans. Sal, Glenn, and myself, collect Topps =E2=9CMan on the Moon=E2=9D cards. Anyway, something caught my eye and it was cheap, so I bought it. A vintage looking Revell plastic model kit =E2=9CRedstone Booster Mercury Capsule=E2=9D cost was two bucks. > When I got home, I looked on eBay, and there was one other listing for this item. The seller says it=E2=99s from 1961, and kind of rare. He has his listed for $130 OBO. His kit is in mint condition, the model kit I bought is in typical OBC condition LOL! > I don=E2=99t sell to much on eBay, I don=E2=99t think I=E2=99ve ever sold a baseball card (nothing wrong with this) but I think I=E2=99ve sold a few non sports cards. Anyway I listed the model kit on eBay and I=E2=99ll include the link. I=E2=99m not trying to hype the item I hope it doesn=E2=99t come off like that. It=E2=99s just kind of fun to list an item and see what happens. I did open the auction at $10 and so far there are two bids, 36 views, and 14 people watching the auction, with overfive days left. 14 people watching tells me it might do OK. The current high bidders ID is =E2=9Coldmodelcollector=E2=9D > It will be a fun item to watch and see what this $2 pick-up goes for! > Guru > http://www.ebay.com/itm/291814246359?ssPageNameSTRK:MESELX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1555.l2649 ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 14:45:58 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Selling on eBay can be fun From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Larry, that is great! I remember as a kid building this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Revell-1833-Mercury-Capsule-Atlas-Booster-Everything-Is-GO-John-Gle I think I built every space related model they put out! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/10/2016 12:55:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: A couple of days ago, I stopped at a local antique =E2=9Cmall=E2=9D. I=E2=99ve this place at least 500 times over the years, and don=E2=99t know why Inever stopped. It=E2=99s on the way to my sons house on the island. What am Ilooking for? I =E2=99ll let you know when I see it LOL! I know we have a few =E2=9CSpace Program=E2=9D fans. Sal, Glenn, andmyself, collect Topps =E2=9CMan on the Moon=E2=9D cards. Anyway, something caught my eye and it was cheap, so I bought it. A vintage looking Revell plastic model kit =E2=9C Redstone Booster Mercury Capsule=E2=9D cost was two bucks. When I got home, I looked on eBay, and there was one other listing for this item. The seller says it=E2=99s from 1961, and kind of rare. He has his listed for $130 OBO. His kit is in mint condition, the model kit I bought is in typical OBC condition LOL! I don=E2=99t sell to much on eBay, I don=E2=99t think I=E2=99ve ever sold a baseball card (nothing wrong with this) but I think I=E2=99ve sold a few non sports Anyway I listed the model kit on eBay and I=E2=99ll include the link. I=E2=99m trying to hype the item I hope it doesn=E2=99t come off like that. It=E2=99s just kind of fun to list an item and see what happens. I did open the auction at $10 and so far there are two bids, 36 views, and 14 people watching the auction, with over five days left. 14 people watching tells me it might doOK. The current high bidders ID is =E2=9Coldmodelcollector=E2=9D It will be a fun item to watch and see what this $2 pick-up goes for! http://www.ebay.com/itm/291814246359?ssPageNameSTRK:MESELX:IT&_trksidp3984 ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:06:47 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Good news, good news! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok boys, here is the latest. I have secured 3 badges courtesy of Mike McCann. He is at the TOP of my OBC dealer list. Ken and myself will collect the badges on Tuesday (hopefully I'll be there when Mike is setting up). As always, keep it hush-hush as we don't want Mike to get into any trouble and jeopardize this partnership down the road. Not that we won't any way, but we need to swarm Mike's table at the National. Always has good deals and is setting up another Mendoza box for us. We'll do the usual, $10 per day, max $30. Money will go toward the swap and food. Other good news... Ken called my hotel and found out they have a conference room available for Saturday night. Cost is $195+tx. I am going to call this week and try to negotiate a better deal. Still need to hear from a few of you. Rob, I need your cell number, Joe Adriance and Steve Sankner, need your info, Mac and Trips and Ed, need to know your itineraries. Are there any last minute additions to this list? I am putting my handshakes together and don't want to leave anyone out. There will be a special in each OBC envelope (a little different from the cards I did last year). Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 W-Sa Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Rob Fitts Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North Y Th-Su Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's Y F-Sa Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Sat Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Y Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:39:56 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Scam From: OBC Nick P What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it wasa PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 16:30:36 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Ken M My favorite part of the description: Could be a reprint. Bid with confidence! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Sun, Jul 10, 2016 3:26 PMTo: OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Scam What will they think of next.  Saw this one and thought for a second it was a PSA case.....it's not.  Hopefully the winning bidder  pays attention to what is listed. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner=1 Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings , OBC Nick P Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 22:23:28 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Taylor Schock I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's originalso selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it wasa PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 18:36:24 -0400 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Doug I agree. I had not read that before, but the existing policy is pretty clear! Sent from my iPad > On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. > http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue > We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or changetheir policy (which will be more likely, IMO). > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam > What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. > http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 21:28:55 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I just had the same thing with a 52B Mantle. Wrote to him if he would guarantee the authenticity because I will send the card straight to PSA. I got reply that it was listed in error and was taken down. I guess we need to be more vigilant on these people. http://www.ebay.com/itm/222182710358?euide14faa0282434eeeb28d676b10f157b1&b Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/10/2016 6:36:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I agree. I had not read that before, but the existing policy is pretty Sent from my iPad On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Taylor Schock _taylor_schock@hotmail.com_ (mailto:taylor_schock@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). From: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) <_OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) > on behalf of OBC Nick P _nachobcards@yahoo.com_ (mailto:nachobcards@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 Nick Pelletier _Nachobcards@yahoo.com_ (mailto:Nachobcards@yahoo.com) ================= Date: 11 Jul 2016 05:34:23 -0700 To: Subject: justcollectcards From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:34:19 -0400 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: "Thomas W. Billing" Absolutely and thanks for the link to this policy page. It spells it out. In addition, not shown in this item, eBay supposedly has a policy that you must use images that are the actual item, not =E2=9CBeckett Stock Photo=E2=9D, which Burbank uses and I have reported them three times to no avail. Henderson used to do this but may have stopped doing it. To vintage collectors, we MUST see the actual item. Tom Billing > On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. > http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue > We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or changetheir policy (which will be more likely, IMO). > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > onbehalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam > What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. > http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:16:40 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] Good news, good news! From: Mac Wubben Good job on the badges Sal (and thanks to Mike McCann of course). I will be at the Chelsea on Wednesday and Thursday night. I do have an opening for Wednesday if anyone is looking for a room that night. I haven't booked for friday or sat night yet. Put me down for Wed-Sun for now, but I might try for tuesday still. Also not sure how I'm getting up there. Anyone driving up on tuesday or wednesday morning from the DC area? I may try net54 if no one is passing through. Looking forward to seeing everyone. From: OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com on behalfof ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 3:06 PM To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] Good news, good news! Ok boys, here is the latest. I have secured 3 badges courtesy of Mike McCann. He is at the TOP of my OBC dealer list. Ken and myself will collect the badges on Tuesday (hopefully I'll be there when Mike is setting up). As always, keep it hush-hush as we don't want Mike to get into any trouble and jeopardize this partnership down the road. Not that we won't any way, but we need to swarm Mike's table at the National. Always has good deals and is setting up another Mendoza box for us. We'll do the usual, $10 per day, max $30. Money will go toward the swap and food. Other good news... Ken called my hotel and found out they have a conferenceroom available for Saturday night. Cost is $195+tx. I am going to call this week and try to negotiate a better deal. Still need to hear from a few ofyou. Rob, I need your cell number, Joe Adriance and Steve Sankner, need your info, Mac and Trips and Ed, need to know your itineraries. Are there any last minute additions to this list? I am putting my handshakes together and don't want to leave anyone out. There will be a special in each OBC envelope (a little different from the cards I did last year). Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 W-Sa Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Rob Fitts Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North Y Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's Y F-Sa Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Sat Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Y Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 11 Jul 2016 11:44:45 -0700 To: Subject: Mike Rich blog From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:49:39 -0400 To: ddejong17@gmail.com, taylor_schock@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Mike Glasser Who do we report it to? What is the email address? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Taylor Schock Cc: OBC Ramblings ; OBC Nick P Sent: Sun, Jul 10, 2016 6:36 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam I agree. I had not read that before, but the existing policy is pretty clear! Sent from my iPad On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's originalso selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it wasa PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:54:01 -0500 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Nick I've reported it to eBay. I've also contacted the seller who said he didn't even realize it wasn't PSA. He did amend the description with the response to my question. Still very sketchy to me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Who do we report it to? What is the email address? > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Taylor Schock > Cc: OBC Ramblings ; OBC Nick P > Sent: Sun, Jul 10, 2016 6:36 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam > I agree. I had not read that before, but the existing policy is pretty clear! > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. > http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue > We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or changetheir policy (which will be more likely, IMO). > Regards, > Taylor > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam > What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. > http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:20:26 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1911 T205 Gold Border Set Completed! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Josh Levine sent me the last card I needed to complete my 1911 T205 Gold Border set! I still remember sitting at Genos table many years ago, and thinking how great those little T205s look slabbed in SGC holders! So I collected this set slabbed. I have completed the set, but still need to send off six cards to SGC, including the Pfiester card that Josh sent my way today. I=E2=99m also listed in the =E2=9CRegistry=E2=9D at the SGC site, and have kind of enjoyed this aspect of our hobby. Completing my =E2=9951-=E2=9981 Topps football set run, and now the T205 That ain=E2=99t bad! LOL! ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:31:09 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1911 T205 Gold Border Set Completed! From: Doug DeJong Not bad at all! Congrats! On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:20 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Josh Levine sent me the last card I needed to complete my 1911 T205 Gold > Border set! I still remember sitting at Genos table many years ago, and > thinking how great those little T205s look slabbed in SGC holders! So I > collected this set slabbed. I have completed the set, but still need to > send off six cards to SGC, including the Pfiester card that Josh sent my > way today. I=E2=99m also listed in the =E2=9CRegistry=E2=9D at the SGC site, and have kind > of enjoyed this aspect of our hobby. > Completing my =E2=9951-=E2=9981 Topps football set run, and now theT205 > That ain=E2=99t bad! LOL! > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 18:05:06 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1911 T205 Gold Border Set Completed! From: Andy Huntoon That's double awesome! Awesome that Josh killed a sweet prewar set and awesome that you know have the complete set! OBC Rules!!! Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:20 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Josh Levine sent me the last card I needed to complete my 1911 T205 Gold Border set! I still remember sitting at Genos table many years ago, and thinking how great those little T205s look slabbed in SGC holders! So I collected this set slabbed. I have completed the set, but still need to send off six cards to SGC, including the Pfiester card that Josh sent my way today. I=E2=99m also listed in the =E2=9CRegistry=E2=9D at the SGC site, and have kind of enjoyed this aspect of our hobby. > Completing my =E2=9951-=E2=9981 Topps football set run, and now theT205 > That ain=E2=99t bad! LOL! > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:50:28 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1911 T205 Gold Border Set Completed! From: Jay Tysver Super nice get! Big congratulations! Jay Tysver > On Jul 11, 2016, at 4:20 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Josh Levine sent me the last card I needed to complete my 1911 T205 Gold Border set! I still remember sitting at Genos table many years ago, and thinking how great those little T205s look slabbed in SGC holders! So I collected this set slabbed. I have completed the set, but still need to send off six cards to SGC, including the Pfiester card that Josh sent my way today. I=E2=99m also listed in the =E2=9CRegistry=E2=9D at the SGC site, and have kind of enjoyed this aspect of our hobby. > Completing my =E2=9951-=E2=9981 Topps football set run, and now theT205 > That ain=E2=99t bad! LOL! > Guru ================= To: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:03:02 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Bob Reed I guess if I want to start Bob Reeds Grading Service I'll have to use something other than BRGS. CC: ddejong17@gmail.com; taylor_schock@hotmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; To: miglasser@aol.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 15:54:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam I've reported it to eBay. I've also contacted the seller who said hedidn't even realize it wasn't PSA. He did amend the description with the response to my question. Still very sketchy to me. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Who do we report it to? What is the email address? Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Taylor Schock Cc: OBC Ramblings ; OBC Nick P Sent: Sun, Jul 10, 2016 6:36 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam I agree. I had not read that before, but the existing policy is pretty clear! Sent from my iPad On Jul 10, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's originalso selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it wasa PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 00:38:23 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.7 From: ChicoD1@aol.com We are getting closer. The list has been updated. We have gained one and lost one. I'm getting the itch. Ken's mission will be to find me a 52B Mantle, 67 Seaver or 59 Gibson. Based on past performance, I would not be surprised to come home with the Mantle. The badges work like this: You get to the show, call Ken or myself. One of us will come out and bring a badge to get you in. Once you are way inside, give the badge back so we can get another OBCer in. Again, $10 per day with a max of $30. Cash goes to the swap room and food (depending on how much we get. Traditionally, we have only had to kick in maybe $10 for the swap food. We have also chipped in to take a swipe at an unsuspecting OBCer's want list (purely optional). Still need cell numbers from Steve Sankner and Rob Fitts. Make sure you print this list. One of the cool things about the National is when someone finds something off another's list and their phone rings "I FOUND THE CARD! MIKE'S TABLE, BOOTH XXXX!" All you rookies, if you see anyone wearing an OBC hat, you are required to approach them and say "Hi, I'm ____, nice to meet you". At which point, I will reach into my backpack and give you an envelope LOL! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Chelsea N Th-Fr Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Rob Fitts N Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North Y Th-Su Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's Y F-Su Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 ? Y Fr-Sa Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Y Sat Randy Welk 599-392-1733 Y Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Chelsea Y W-Su Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:38:42 -0500 To: "bskp1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] justcollectcards From: Nate Mack I would say that I dislike strongly when a dealer on eBay charges more for shipping than the actual cost of shipping plus their small cost of envelope, tape, etc. Some people charge almost 2-3 times the actual cost... It isa way to pad the cost of selling on the forum, at least that's what I feel... Some auctions I want are passed over due to crazy shipping costs. One goodthing about shipping out a lot of cards to the guys, you quickly get a grasp of the cost of shipping! Nate Mack Sent from my iPad > On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:34 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > In January, I won a number of auctions of this Seller on EBay and combined shipping maxed out at $5.00. > Last week, I won a bunch more, but shipping now maxes out at $10.00. I'vesent 3 messages to the Seller, pointing out the January deal and requesting relief. None of the messages has been answered, so I guess I'll pay the ten > Anyone have experience with this dealer? His feedback is largely positive, but there are some comments about excessive shipping and poor communication. > Chuck ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:17:30 +0000 To: Taylor Schock , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Matthew Glidden Thanks Taylor, when you use the Report This link on an item page, it sends you through drop-down menus to pick the reason. How did you get to the one for inauthentic cards? I haven't found a good match yet. On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:23 PM Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's > original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy > that this can't be done. > http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue > We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change > their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). > Regards, > Taylor > ------------------------------ > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on > behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM > *To:* OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Scam > What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it > was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention > to what is listed. > http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:58:48 -0400 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Doug DeJong I had the same issue/ thought. It would be nice to map out the preferred path and we can all report these in the most efficient and effective manner Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 8:17 AM, "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Thanks Taylor, when you use the Report This link on an item page, it sends you through drop-down menus to pick the reason. How did you get to the one for inauthentic cards? I haven't found a good match yet. > Spike >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:23 PM Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy that this can't be done. >> http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue >> We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). >> Regards, >> Taylor >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM >> To: OBC Ramblings >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam >> What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention to what is listed. >> http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 >> Nick Pelletier >> Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 10:33:55 -0400 To: Nate Mack Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] justcollectcards From: "Thomas W. Billing" I agree and have bought 99 cent cars with $4.95 shipping and it was no heavy duty enveope. Ridiculous. Tom Billing > On Jul 11, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I would say that I dislike strongly when a dealer on eBay charges more for shipping than the actual cost of shipping plus their small cost of envelope, tape, etc. Some people charge almost 2-3 times the actual cost... It is a way to pad the cost of selling on the forum, at least that's what I feel... > Some auctions I want are passed over due to crazy shipping costs. One good thing about shipping out a lot of cards to the guys, you quickly get a grasp of the cost of shipping! > Thanks, > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPad > On Jul 11, 2016, at 7:34 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> In January, I won a number of auctions of this Seller on EBay and combined shipping maxed out at $5.00. >> Last week, I won a bunch more, but shipping now maxes out at $10.00. I've sent 3 messages to the Seller, pointing out the January deal and requesting relief. None of the messages has been answered, so I guess I'll pay the ten >> Anyone have experience with this dealer? His feedback is largely positive, but there are some comments about excessive shipping and poor communication. >> Chuck ================= Date: 12 Jul 2016 07:18:32 -0700 To: Subject: Need advice on 64 stand ups From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:01:11 -0400 To: nmack03@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need advice on 64 stand ups From: mikesportsfan@aol.com A couple dollars a piece for commons without the backs. There are 22 sp's in the set. Many are stars, and prices can easily go to $100 in top condition. The Yaz and Mantle are the keys to the set, with Yaz being a tough sp. I still need the following. * indicates I have without the backing and/or needs 1964 Topps Stand-ups: Aaron* Banks* Clemente, F. Howard*, Mantle*, B. Robinson*, Santo Spahn Yaz Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 12, 2016 11:49 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need advice on 64 stand ups Just getting into this set and need some friendly advice. A lot of these cards in low grade have the backs removed. What is a fair price for a 64 stand up without its back? Do the cards in this set demand a premium like say 66 or 67 highs? If the back is in tact and in VG the book quotes them at3-4 per common in vg and 12 in nm. Looking for a little knowledge on the set.... Also what premium do the stars and SPs go for? Nate Mack&n bsp; ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:58:08 -0400 To: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scam From: Matthew Glidden After poking around, I settled on the Fraudulent listing options. Didn't have to add any additional info after doing so and will see if listing disappears, since it was part of my regular searches. On Tuesday, July 12, 2016, Doug DeJong wrote: > I had the same issue/ thought. It would be nice to map out the preferred > path and we can all report these in the most efficient and effective manner > Doug > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 8:17 AM, "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings]" > > wrote: > Thanks Taylor, when you use the Report This link on an item page, it sends > you through drop-down menus to pick the reason. How did you get to the one > for inauthentic cards? I haven't found a good match yet. > Spike > On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:23 PM Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings] > > wrote: >> I think we need to all start reporting all these 'not sure if it's >> original so selling it as a reprint' to ebay. I mean, it's in their policy >> that this can't be done. >> http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html?rmvSBtrue >> We should harp on ebay until they really start to enforce this, or change >> their policy (which will be more likely, IMO). >> Regards, >> Taylor >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> < >> OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> > on >> behalf of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com >> [OBC-Ramblings] < >> OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> > >> *Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:39 PM >> *To:* OBC Ramblings >> *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Scam >> What will they think of next. Saw this one and thought for a second it >> was a PSA case.....it's not. Hopefully the winning bidder pays attention >> to what is listed. >> http://m.ebay.com/itm/331904787879?_mwBanner1 >> Nick Pelletier >> Nachobcards@yahoo.com >> ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 17:04:43 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: HOM changing of the guard From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- In a stunning development, I have decided to change my HOM nominee! OK, so it's not really very stunning at all. I am still a Dick Hoblitzell fan, and always will be...especially if he ever shows up in my house with No Stats. He was actually my 2nd HOMer, because my original one, Ron Santo, went and got himself elected to the HOF, of all things. Anyway, after much thought...no, actually, on a whim while taking a shower this morning...I am changing my HOMer to Harry Steinfeldt, in honor of the Cubs All-Star infield tonight! Of course, Harry was the one left out of the Tinkers-Evers-Chance combo. He also just missed a shot at stardom when NBC didn't like his name, and chose Jerry Seinfeld for that show. OK, that's not true. But he did tour in a minstrel group back in the day. He also holds the record for three sacrifice flys (flies?)in one game. Unfortunately, he died in his thirties, so he is not around today to see this honor bestowed upon him. Grant...would you be so kind as to make the swap? Thanks! Take Care,Geno ================= To: "'Geno Wagner'" , Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:01:24 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] HOM changing of the guard From: "Grant Rainsley" Worthy choice, and it will be taken care of=E2=A6=E2=A6thanks in advance going to Joe Isaac for his maintenance of the graphics=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:05 AM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] HOM changing of the guard Fellas -- In a stunning development, I have decided to change my HOM nominee! OK, soit's not really very stunning at all. I am still a Dick Hoblitzell fan, and always will be...especially if he ever shows up in my house with No Stats. He was actually my 2nd HOMer, because my original one, Ron Santo, went and got himself elected to the HOF, of all things. Anyway, after much thought...no, actually, on a whim while taking a shower this morning...I am changing my HOMer to Harry Steinfeldt, in honor of the Cubs All-Star infield tonight! Of course, Harry was the one left out of the Tinkers-Evers-Chance combo. He also just missed a shot at stardom when NBC didn't like his name, and chose Jerry Seinfeld for that show. OK, that's not true. But he did tour in a minstrel group back in the day. He also holds the record for three sacrifice flys (flies?) in one game. Unfortunately, he died in his thirties, so he is not around today to see this honor bestowed upon him. Grant...would you be so kind as to make the swap? Thanks! Take Care, ================= To: yahoogroups , Geno Wagner Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:36:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] HOM changing of the guard From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 18:18:57 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need advice on 64 stand ups From: I really like this set, and have very slowly been adding to it. Mike is right--the stars (especially Mantle and Yaz) are really steep. I saw those lots with the missing backs, but passed on them. I don't think the price was out of line, it's just that, although I'm usually not at all fussy about condition, for some reason I like the 64's with the backs intact (they can be punched out, but I still like for them to be there). Am I inconsistent--of course I am. I have a half dozen or so of the 1951 Topps Connie Mack all-stars, and most of them don't have the backs! And if any of the 1951 Current All-Stars ever show up, I don't even think about being able to afford them with the back attached. ---- "nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: ============= Just getting into this set and need some friendly advice. A lot of these cards in low grade have the backs removed. What is a fair price for a 64 stand up without its back? Do the cards in this set demand a premium like say 66 or 67 highs? If the back is in tact and in VG the book quotes them at 3-4 per common in vg and 12 in nm. Looking for a little knowledge on the set.... Also what premium do the stars and SPs go for? Nate Mack ================= To: OBC National , OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:06:41 -0500 Subject: t-shirt update From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys, I have been getting a little overwhelmed the last few days. Will try to get the shirts in the mail in the next few days. They will probably have to go out in shifts... as many as I can mail each day... I had really hoped to add cards to most of the envelopes, but I'm afraid even doing thatwould add days to the process. Meanwhile, the shirts look awfully nice. I hope you all love them. Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:40:07 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1964 BAZOOKA GUM BASEBALL CARD STAMPS UNCUT SHEETS LOT 30 TOTAL STAMPS CLEMENTE From: Rick I have three of these sheets so I watch these. I was thinking of bidding onit until today the price jumped dramatically. I guess I'll be giving up onthese if this is where the price is going. Rick View item: 1964 BAZOOKA GUM BASEBALL CARD STAMPS UNCUT SHEETS LOT 30 TOTAL STAMPS CLEMENTE End Time: Jul 12, 2016, 2:59:04 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 12 Jul 2016 15:08:30 -0700 To: Subject: Waiver Wire- 1974 Topps baseball From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:18:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] HOM changing of the guard From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Ray Schalk? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/12/2016 2:38:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Just because you are in the HOF, doesn't mean you can't be mediocre as From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 1:04 PM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] HOM changing of the guard Fellas -- In a stunning development, I have decided to change my HOM nominee! OK, so it's not really very stunning at all. I am still a Dick Hoblitzell fan, and always will be...especially if he ever shows up in my house with No Stats. He was actually my 2nd HOMer, because my original one, Ron Santo, went and got himself elected to the HOF, of all things. Anyway, after much thought...no, actually, on a whim while taking a shower this morning...I am changing my HOMer to Harry Steinfeldt, in honor of the Cubs All-Star infield tonight! Of course, Harry was the one left out of the Tinkers-Evers-Chance combo. He also just missed a shot at stardom when NBC didn't like his name, and chose Jerry Seinfeld for that show. OK, that's not true. But he did tour in a minstrel group back in the day. He also holds the record for three sacrifice flys (flies?) in one game. Unfortunately, he died in his thirties, so he is not around today to see this bestowed upon him. Grant...would you be so kind as to make the swap? Thanks! Take Care, ================= To: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 09:15:16 -0400 Subject: 1962 Post Coleman SP on eBay cheap From: "Mark Holland" Here is a link to a 1962 Post SP at a pretty good price. It's not listed as an SP in the title. $3 plus .99 shipping is fair. Hope someone needs it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/351773256807?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName Mark Holland Vintage List ================= Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:21:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Hockey and Football Cards Available - FCFS From: Kent Here's what's still available. Don't be bashful as they must go. LOL. Hockey Cards 1972-73 Topps - 35(x2) 52 86(x3) 136 (x2) 147 1973-74 Topps - 151 1977-78 Topps - 113 174 175 184 209(x2) Football Cards 1969 Topps - 2 114(x2) 18(x2) 21(x3) 22 23 30 48(x2) 49(x2) 56) 71 79(x2) 82(x2) 84 89 90 91 108 110(x2) 112 119 125 134 147 174 182 233(x2) 253 ================= Date: 13 Jul 2016 09:25:53 -0700 To: Subject: Random Waivers Non-sports From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:45:43 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mike Rich visit From: Ed Pike I am pleased that Mike Rich stopped by my office in downtown Oakland last week on his big tour. It was a pleasure to have lunch with Mike and get a chance to meet in person. Fun stories about cardboard, and real estate scams also (I wasn't responsible for any of them, honest! :). Good luck Mike on the rest of your trip! Also, FYI I will be hiking on the John Muir trail from Sequioa Kings Canyon National Park to Yosemite from July 15th through July 31st and will be off-line. Ed Pike ================= Date: 13 Jul 2016 19:37:51 -0700 To: Subject: Lots of 1959 Topps to give/trade away From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:50:29 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 64 topps Venezuelan album From: Rick Been given the opportunity to purchase a 64 album it suppose to only have about 125 cards in it with a few stars but not the mantle or Rose. For the amount of money it's not easy to pull the trigger for it but the opportunitydoesn't come very often to get a 60's album. Pretty excited about it didn't think when I started the Venezuelan quest I would ever have this opportunity. I'll keep you posted on what happens but it may take awhile. Here's a few pictures he sent me. Rick ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:10:29 -0400 Subject: Paul Stenshoel From: Shawn Smart anyone have any dealings? e-mail exchange below.... Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:02:33 +0000 From: paul_stenshoel@yahoo.com To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com Subject: Re: 63s probably not, I am on a short bender to collect 63s right now. I do this from time to time, take a set like 63's, get serious about it and then quit collecting again. I have a ton of extra 63s right now for you traders, so anybody who can help me wrap this set up right now will reap the benefits, generosity . On Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:53 AM, Shawn Smart Oh ok cool are you applying for membership?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenshoel wrote:OBC On Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:51 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: Ok thanks I'll check it out. Where did you find my list?Sent from myiPhoneOn Jul 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Paul Stenshoel wrote:got a lot of help in 63s if you can hit anything here1963 missing/ Wants / needs 79 Checklist102 Checklist163 Don Larsen183 Pepitone211 Fred Whitfield 221 Cookie Rojas rookie 222 Chicago Cubs team 231 checklist242 Power Plus - Banks,Aaron 285 Dick Stuart 295 Ed Roebuck 316 Norm Sherry 317 Sam McDowell 324 Rookies- Roof, Davalillo 325 Jack Sanford 331 Series Foes - Stafford,Pierce 334 Wynn Hawkins 349 Zoilo Versalles 352 Ken Johnson 357 George Altman 362 Checklist364 Howie Goss 366 Tony Taylor 380 Ernie Banks 390 Hank Aaron 392 Tribe Thumpers - 431 v2 Checklist black/orange 443 Jimmy Piersall 450 Bob Friend 451 Cleveland Indians team 453 Jake Wood 454 Art Fowler 456 Jim Coker 460Del Crandall 463 Joe Schaffernoth465 Chuck Estrada 467 Phil Ortega 468Carroll Hardy 472 Lou Brock 473 New York Mets 477 Donn Clendenon 478 Paul Brown 479 Ed Brinkman rookie 480 Bill Monbouquette 481 Bob Taylor 482 Felix Torres 484 Dale Long 485 Jim Landis 488 Jerry Adair 489 Paul Toth rookie 490 Willie McCovey 494 Phil Regan 495 Frank Thomas502 Daryl Spencer 503 Milwaukee Braves team 505 Curt Flood 508 Ted Savage 509 Checklist516 Purnell Goldy rookie 518 Don Blasingame 520 Orlando Cepeda 522 Rookies - M. Nelson-Gary Peters 523 Bill Kunkel 524 St Louis Cards Team525 Nellie Fox 527 Ed Sadowski 528 Carl Willey 533 Bobby Shantz535 Jim Perry 537 Rookies=96Pete Rose 538 George Brunet 540 Roberto Clemente 542 Lou Klimchock 543 Russ Snyder 544 Rookies =96 Rusty Staub546 Hal Reniff 549 Rookies - Marcelino Lopez 553 Rookies =96 Stargell 555 John Blanchard 557 Cuno Barragan 558 Rookies - Ron Hunt559 Danny Murtaugh Mgr 562 Rookies =96 Dave McNally 569 Luis Arroyo 571 Johnny Klippstein 575 Don Cardwell576 Johnny Temple ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:16:36 -0400 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel From: Doug DeJong He emailed me about a trade for 63 Topps. My dupes didn't meet his condition needs so we didn't trade. He said he was only interested in 63s and passed on some older cards I offers to trade. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 12:10 PM, "Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > anyone have any dealings? > e-mail exchange below.... > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:02:33 +0000 > From: paul_stenshoel@yahoo.com > To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: 63s > probably not, > I am on a short bender to collect 63s right now. I do this from time to time, take a set like 63's, get serious about it and then quit collecting again. I have a ton of extra 63s right now for you traders, so anybody whocan help me wrap this set up right now will reap the benefits, generosity. > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:53 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: > Oh ok cool are you applying for membership? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenshoel wrote: > OBC > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:51 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: > Ok thanks I'll check it out. Where did you find my list? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Paul Stenshoel wrote: > got a lot of help in 63s if you can hit anything here > 1963 missing / Wants / needs > 79 Checklist > 102 Checklist > 163 Don Larsen > 183 Pepitone > 211 Fred Whitfield > 221 Cookie Rojas rookie > 222 Chicago Cubs team > 231 checklist > 242 Power Plus - Banks,Aaron > 285 Dick Stuart > 295 Ed Roebuck > 316 Norm Sherry > 317 Sam McDowell > 324 Rookies- Roof, Davalillo > 325 Jack Sanford > 331 Series Foes - Stafford,Pierce > 334 Wynn Hawkins > 349 Zoilo Versalles > 352 Ken Johnson > 357 George Altman > 362 Checklist > 364 Howie Goss > 366 Tony Taylor > 380 Ernie Banks > 390 Hank Aaron > 392 Tribe Thumpers - > 431 v2 Checklist black/orange > 443 Jimmy Piersall > 450 Bob Friend > 451 Cleveland Indians team > 453 Jake Wood > 454 Art Fowler > 456 Jim Coker > 460 Del Crandall > 463 Joe Schaffernoth > 465 Chuck Estrada > 467 Phil Ortega > 468 Carroll Hardy > 472 Lou Brock > 473 New York Mets > 477 Donn Clendenon > 478 Paul Brown > 479 Ed Brinkman rookie > 480 Bill Monbouquette > 481 Bob Taylor > 482 Felix Torres > 484 Dale Long > 485 Jim Landis > 488 Jerry Adair > 489 Paul Toth rookie > 490 Willie McCovey > 494 Phil Regan > 495 Frank Thomas > 502 Daryl Spencer > 503 Milwaukee Braves team > 505 Curt Flood > 508 Ted Savage > 509 Checklist > 516 Purnell Goldy rookie > 518 Don Blasingame > 520 Orlando Cepeda > 522 Rookies - M. Nelson-Gary Peters > 523 Bill Kunkel > 524 St Louis Cards Team > 525 Nellie Fox > 527 Ed Sadowski > 528 Carl Willey > 533 Bobby Shantz > 535 Jim Perry > 537 Rookies=E2=93Pete Rose > 538 George Brunet > 540 Roberto Clemente > 542 Lou Klimchock > 543 Russ Snyder > 544 Rookies =E2=93 Rusty Staub > 546 Hal Reniff > 549 Rookies - Marcelino Lopez > 553 Rookies =E2=93 Stargell > 555 John Blanchard > 557 Cuno Barragan > 558 Rookies - Ron Hunt > 559 Danny Murtaugh Mgr > 562 Rookies =E2=93 Dave McNally > 569 Luis Arroyo > 571 Johnny Klippstein > 575 Don Cardwell > 576 Johnny Temple ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 12:40:31 -0400 To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel From: Mike Glasser He emailed me as well. I asked him who he was and he gave me the same answer. However, he did offer to send me cards first so I'm guessing that he'son the level. I didn't have anything for him though. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2016 12:10 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel anyone have any dealings? e-mail exchange below.... Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:02:33 +0000 From: paul_stenshoel@yahoo.com To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com Subject: Re: 63s probably not, I am on a short bender to collect 63s right now. I do this from time to time, take a set like 63's, get serious about it and then quit collecting again. I have a ton of extra 63s right now for you traders, so anybody who can help me wrap this set up right now will reap the benefits, generosity . On Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:53 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: Oh ok cool are you applying for membership? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenshoel wrote: On Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:51 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: Ok thanks I'll check it out. Where did you find my list? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Paul Stenshoel wrote: got a lot of help in 63s if you can hit anything here 1963 missing / Wants / needs 79 Checklist 102 Checklist 163 Don Larsen 183 Pepitone 211 Fred Whitfield 221 Cookie Rojas rookie 222 Chicago Cubs team 231 checklist 242 Power Plus - Banks,Aaron 285 Dick Stuart 295 Ed Roebuck 316 Norm Sherry 317 Sam McDowell 324 Rookies- Roof, Davalillo 325 Jack Sanford 331 Series Foes - Stafford,Pierce 334 Wynn Hawkins 349 Zoilo Versalles 352 Ken Johnson 357 George Altman 362 Checklist 364 Howie Goss 366 Tony Taylor 380 Ernie Banks 390 Hank Aaron 392 Tribe Thumpers - 431 v2 Checklist black/orange 443 Jimmy Piersall 450 Bob Friend 451 Cleveland Indians team 453 Jake Wood 454 Art Fowler 456 Jim Coker 460 Del Crandall 463 Joe Schaffernoth 465 Chuck Estrada 467 Phil Ortega 468 Carroll Hardy 472 Lou Brock 473 New York Mets 477 Donn Clendenon 478 Paul Brown 479 Ed Brinkman rookie 480 Bill Monbouquette 481 Bob Taylor 482 Felix Torres 484 Dale Long 485 Jim Landis 488 Jerry Adair 489 Paul Toth rookie 490 Willie McCovey 494 Phil Regan 495 Frank Thomas 502 Daryl Spencer 503 Milwaukee Braves team 505 Curt Flood 508 Ted Savage 509 Checklist 516 Purnell Goldy rookie 518 Don Blasingame 520 Orlando Cepeda 522 Rookies - M. Nelson-Gary Peters 523 Bill Kunkel 524 St Louis Cards Team 525 Nellie Fox 527 Ed Sadowski 528 Carl Willey 533 Bobby Shantz 535 Jim Perry 537 Rookies=E2=93Pete Rose 538 George Brunet 540 Roberto Clemente 542 Lou Klimchock 543 Russ Snyder 544 Rookies =E2=93 Rusty Staub 546 Hal Reniff 549 Rookies - Marcelino Lopez 553 Rookies =E2=93 Stargell 555 John Blanchard 557 Cuno Barragan 558 Rookies - Ron Hunt 559 Danny Murtaugh Mgr 562 Rookies =E2=93 Dave McNally 569 Luis Arroyo 571 Johnny Klippstein 575 Don Cardwell 576 Johnny Temple ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:09:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, VCT , Subject: 1967 Topps small WAIVER WIRE From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Not much to give out this round, but here are a few cards off the waiver wire! 1967 Topps: 38 Johnson G/VG appeal, but pen on back 58 Schaal (not the error) VGEX 118 Allen VGEX 125 Drabowsky Poor (paper loss on front) 251 Held VG (with a little wax on front) Claim away! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:17:06 -0400 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel From: Steve I got the same e-mail from him, don't know who he is Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Jul 14, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > anyone have any dealings? > e-mail exchange below.... > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:02:33 +0000 > From: paul_stenshoel@yahoo.com > To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: 63s > probably not, > I am on a short bender to collect 63s right now. I do this from time to time, take a set like 63's, get serious about it and then quit collecting again. I have a ton of extra 63s right now for you traders, so anybody whocan help me wrap this set up right now will reap the benefits, generosity. > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:53 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: > Oh ok cool are you applying for membership? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenshoel wrote: > OBC > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:51 AM, Shawn Smart wrote: > Ok thanks I'll check it out. Where did you find my list? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Paul Stenshoel wrote: > got a lot of help in 63s if you can hit anything here > 1963 missing / Wants / needs > 79 Checklist > 102 Checklist > 163 Don Larsen > 183 Pepitone > 211 Fred Whitfield > 221 Cookie Rojas rookie > 222 Chicago Cubs team > 231 checklist > 242 Power Plus - Banks,Aaron > 285 Dick Stuart > 295 Ed Roebuck > 316 Norm Sherry > 317 Sam McDowell > 324 Rookies- Roof, Davalillo > 325 Jack Sanford > 331 Series Foes - Stafford,Pierce > 334 Wynn Hawkins > 349 Zoilo Versalles > 352 Ken Johnson > 357 George Altman > 362 Checklist > 364 Howie Goss > 366 Tony Taylor > 380 Ernie Banks > 390 Hank Aaron > 392 Tribe Thumpers - > 431 v2 Checklist black/orange > 443 Jimmy Piersall > 450 Bob Friend > 451 Cleveland Indians team > 453 Jake Wood > 454 Art Fowler > 456 Jim Coker > 460 Del Crandall > 463 Joe Schaffernoth > 465 Chuck Estrada > 467 Phil Ortega > 468 Carroll Hardy > 472 Lou Brock > 473 New York Mets > 477 Donn Clendenon > 478 Paul Brown > 479 Ed Brinkman rookie > 480 Bill Monbouquette > 481 Bob Taylor > 482 Felix Torres > 484 Dale Long > 485 Jim Landis > 488 Jerry Adair > 489 Paul Toth rookie > 490 Willie McCovey > 494 Phil Regan > 495 Frank Thomas > 502 Daryl Spencer > 503 Milwaukee Braves team > 505 Curt Flood > 508 Ted Savage > 509 Checklist > 516 Purnell Goldy rookie > 518 Don Blasingame > 520 Orlando Cepeda > 522 Rookies - M. Nelson-Gary Peters > 523 Bill Kunkel > 524 St Louis Cards Team > 525 Nellie Fox > 527 Ed Sadowski > 528 Carl Willey > 533 Bobby Shantz > 535 Jim Perry > 537 Rookies=E2=93Pete Rose > 538 George Brunet > 540 Roberto Clemente > 542 Lou Klimchock > 543 Russ Snyder > 544 Rookies =E2=93 Rusty Staub > 546 Hal Reniff > 549 Rookies - Marcelino Lopez > 553 Rookies =E2=93 Stargell > 555 John Blanchard > 557 Cuno Barragan > 558 Rookies - Ron Hunt > 559 Danny Murtaugh Mgr > 562 Rookies =E2=93 Dave McNally > 569 Luis Arroyo > 571 Johnny Klippstein > 575 Don Cardwell > 576 Johnny Temple ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 14:40:52 -0400 To: Steve Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel From: Ron H I have been working with Paul on his project since beginning of May. I have traded him most of my dupes & non dupes that he needs (he is way further along on the set than I am). In return, He has cut my 63 wants down immensely. If I had more 63s for him I would continue to help. He's just not ready to trade for anything but 1963 topps cards right now. On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Steve rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Shawn, > I got the same e-mail from him, don't know who he is > Steve Sankner > Sent from my iPad > On Jul 14, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > *anyone have any dealings?* > *e-mail exchange below....* > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:02:33 +0000 > From: paul_stenshoel@yahoo.com > To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: 63s > probably not, > I am on a short bender to collect 63s right now. I do this from time to > time, take a set like 63's, get serious about it and then quit collecting > again. I have a ton of extra 63s right now for you traders, so anybody > who can help me wrap this set up right now will reap the benefits, > generosity . > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:53 AM, Shawn Smart > wrote: > Oh ok cool are you applying for membership? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenshoel > wrote: > OBC > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:51 AM, Shawn Smart > wrote: > Ok thanks I'll check it out. Where did you find my list? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Paul Stenshoel > wrote: > got a lot of help in 63s if you can hit anything here > *1963 missing / Wants / needs* > *79 Checklist* > *102 Checklist* > *163 Don Larsen* > *183 Pepitone* > *211 Fred Whitfield * > *221 Cookie Rojas rookie * > 222 *Chicago Cubs team* > 231 checklist > *242 Power Plus - Banks**,**Aaron* > *285 Dick Stuart* > *295 Ed Roebuck * > *316 Norm Sherry * > *317 Sam McDowell * > *324 Rookies- Roof**,** Davalillo * > *325 Jack Sanford * > *331 Series Foes - Stafford**,**Pierce * > *334 Wynn Hawkins * > *349 Zoilo Versalles * > *352 Ken Johnson * > *357 George Altman * > *362 Checklist* > *364 Howie Goss * > *366 Tony Taylor * > *380 Ernie Banks * > *390 Hank Aaron * > *392 Tribe Thumpers - * > *431 v2 Checklist black**/**orange* > *443 Jimmy Piersall * > *450 Bob Friend * > 451 *Cleveland Indians team * > *453 Jake Wood * > *454 Art Fowler * > *456 Jim Coker * > *460 Del Crandall * > *463 Joe Schaffernoth* > *465 Chuck Estrada * > *467 Phil Ortega * > *468 Carroll Hardy * > *472 Lou Brock* > 473 *New York Mets * > *477 Donn Clendenon * > *478 Paul Brown* > *479 Ed Brinkman rookie* > *480 Bill Monbouquette * > *481 Bob Taylor * > *482 Felix Torres * > *484 Dale Long * > *485 Jim Landis * > *488 Jerry Adair * > *489 Paul Toth rookie* > *490 Willie McCovey * > *494 Phil Regan * > *495 Frank Thomas* > *502 Daryl Spencer * > *503 Milwaukee Braves team* > 5*05 Curt Flood * > *508 Ted Savage * > *509 Checklist* > *5**16 Purnell Goldy rookie * > *518 Don Blasingame* > *520 Orlando Cepeda * > *522 Rookies - M. Nelson-Gary Peters * > *523 Bill Kunkel* > *524 St Louis Cards Team* > 5*25 Nellie Fox* > *527 Ed Sadowski * > *528 Carl Willey* > *533 Bobby Shantz* > *535 Jim Perry* > *537 Rookies=E2=93Pete Rose* > *538 George Brunet* > *540 Roberto Clemente* > *542 Lou Klimchock * > *543 Russ Snyder* > *544 Rookies =E2=93 Rusty Staub* > *546 Hal Reniff * > *549 Rookies - Marcelino Lopez* > *5**53 Rookies =E2=93 Stargell * > *555 John Blanchard * > *557 Cuno Barragan * > *558 Rookies - Ron Hunt* > *559 Danny Murtaugh Mgr * > *562 Rookies =E2=93 Dave McNally * > *569 Luis Arroyo * > *571 Johnny Klippstein * > *575 Don Cardwell* > *576 Johnny Temple* ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:13:20 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel From: "Thomas W. Billing" This is off this subject but I cannot figure out how to send it out to the group Who in the world is collectorsfriend1 on eBay? Whoever it is will not sell to me or let me contact him. There is a card Iwould like to buy but no dice. What is going on? Tom Billing > On Jul 14, 2016, at 5:10 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I was able to hit Paul's list with 6 cards. > I might still be short of a fair trade as he is sending me Mathews and Tresh. > If anyone has a few nicer commons that he needs , I could alway hit you back with my part of what would essentially be a 3-way, unorthodox trade;-) > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: familytoad@comcast.net > To: Shawn Smart, Doug DeJong > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: July 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel > I'm going to try to help him with 63's as well, since he has a pair of hits that I can use. > I have a small stack here *somewhere* in the mess, hopefully I can find it and turn it into two less 63 that I need! > If so , and the transaction goes well, I'll be sure to let you all know! > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Shawn Smart > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: July 14, 2016 at 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paul Stenshoel > He emailed me about a trade for 63 Topps. My dupes didn't meet his condition needs so we didn't trade. He said he was only interested in 63s and passed on some older cards I offers to trade. > Doug. > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 12:10 PM, "Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > wrote: > anyone have any dealings? > e-mail exchange below.... > Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:02:33 +0000 > From: paul_stenshoel@yahoo.com > To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: 63s > probably not, > I am on a short bender to collect 63s right now. I do this from time to time, take a set like 63's, get serious about it and then quit collecting again. I have a ton of extra 63s right now for you traders, so anybody whocan help me wrap this set up right now will reap the benefits, generosity. > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:53 AM, Shawn Smart > > Oh ok cool are you applying for membership? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenshoel > wrote: > OBC > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:51 AM, Shawn Smart > > Ok thanks I'll check it out. Where did you find my list? > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Paul Stenshoel > > got a lot of help in 63s if you can hit anything here > 1963 missing / Wants / needs > 79 Checklist > 102 Checklist > 163 Don&n! bsp;Larsen > 183 Pepitone > 211 Fred Whitfield > 221 Cookie Rojas rookie > 222 Chicago Cubs team > 231 checklist > 242 Power Plus - Banks,Aaron > 285 Dick Stuart > 295 Ed Roebuck > 316 Norm Sherry > 317 Sam McDowell > 324 Rookies- Roof, Davalillo > 325 Jack Sanford > 331 Series Foes - Stafford,Pierce > 334 Wynn Hawkins > 349 Zoilo Versalles > 352 Ken Johnson > 357 George Altman > 362 Checklist > 364 Howie Goss > 366 Tony Taylor > 380 Ernie Banks > 390 Hank Aaron > 392 Tribe Thumpers - > 431 v2 Checklist black/orange > 443 Jimmy Piersall > 450 Bob Friend > 451 Cleveland Indians team > 453 Jake Wood > 454 Art Fowler > 456 Jim Coker > 460 Del Crandall > 463 Joe Schaffernoth > 465 Chuck Estrada > 467 Phil Ortega > 468 Carroll Hardy > 472 Lou Brock > 473 New York Mets > 477 Donn Clendenon > 478 Paul Brown > 479 Ed Brinkman rookie > 480 Bill Monbouquette > 481 Bob Taylor > 482 Felix Torres > 484 Dale Long > 485 Jim Landis > 488 Jerry Adair > 489 Paul Toth rookie > 490 Willie McCovey > 494 Phil Regan > 495 Frank Thomas > 502 Daryl Spencer > 503 Milwaukee Braves team > 505 Curt Flood > 508 Ted Savage > 509 Checklist > 516 Purnell Goldy rookie > 518 Don Blasingame > 520 Orlando Cepeda > 522 Rookies - M. Nelson-Gary Peters > 523 Bill Kunkel > 524 St Louis Cards Team > 525 Nellie Fox > 527 Ed Sadowski > 528 Carl Willey > 533 Bobby Shantz > 535 Jim Perry > 537 Rookies=E2=93Pete Rose > 538 George Brunet > 540 Roberto Clemente > 542 Lou Klimchock > 543 Russ Snyder > 544 Rookies =E2=93 Rusty Staub > 546 Hal Reniff > 549 Rookies - Marcelino Lopez > 553 Rookies =E2=93 Stargell > 555 John Blanchard > 557 Cuno Barragan > 558 Rookies - Ron Hunt > 559 Danny Murtaugh Mgr > 562 Rookies =E2=93 Dave McNally > 569 Luis Arroyo > 571 Johnny Klippstein > 575 Don Cardwell > 576 Johnny Temple ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 18:06:50 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Chantilly show- who is going From: Anthony Hello all, Let's see if we can meet up. Definitely going Sunday and maybe Friday Anthony arbeeny Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 14 Jul 2016 15:07:49 -0700 To: Subject: Waiver wire: 1965 Topps Embossed From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 00:08:46 +0000 Subject: Cheap Walter Johnson P2 From: Mac Wubben http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-12-Sweet-Caporal-P2-Baseball-Pin-Coin-Walter-Johnson-Washington-Senators-/331909000946 [http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/e~0AAOSwRS9Xf~EY/s-l300.jpg] Subject: Old movie posters From: familytoad@comcast.net myself enamored with Turner Classic Movies Channel this year.
I like the movies, although mostly I just turn them on and fall asleep instantly.

Give me some classic Bogart or Edward G. Robinson, or Gable, Jimmy Stewart & John Wayne and i might stay awake past the opening credits...no knock at all on the movies. I want to watch them, and despite being in the TV business, I have no interest in most TV shows besides sports and some history or science documentaries. I've had fun watching the old classics like Key Largo, Casablanca and Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

So now I am looking at the bonus room over our upstairs hall. It was a temporary crash pad for my son, he has since moved back to his old bedroom down thehall...he moved back in with me last December after about a year and a half on his own. I hear kids tend to do that :-)

Anyway, that's the only room in the house with any wall space left. I think I'd like to convert it to a media room and watch my old movies in there. It's got a big TV that won't fit in his room LOL.
The decorative motif should be like a theaterlobby. Yeah, a lobby !

So do any of you collect old movie posters? Old like 30's and 40's would be the era I am most interested in, although the next two decades after that certainly have classics too.
If so...where do you find them? I assume eBay, but I am trying to wean myself from there...
Anyone have old movie posters that they have grown tired of? I haveroom for 5 or 6 tops so the collection will be limited.

Forgetting the posters for a minute...tell me about your own old movie obsession? Whatones are in your favorites list?
Besides the three movies I listed above...I like North by Northwest, (most Hitchcock movies are really good) anything with Steve McQueen and the occasional gangster movie...or westerns LOL.

Back to your normal programming,
OBC Forever,
Brian

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: 14 Jul 2016 18:36:17 -0700 To: Subject: Baseball & Basketball Oddball Waivers From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 22:18:05 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Paul Stenshoel From: KEVINM38@aol.com Paul was in Trading Bases many many years back.. He is OK to trade with Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:55:56 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Rant! From: OBC Nick P A few days ago I shared a link to a "PSA graded PSA 8 Clemente" rookie thatwas a "likely reprint." Aside from being a reproduction the slab wasn't PSA. It clearly said BRGS. Today that auction ended....at $168.50 plus $4 shipping. Wow! Just wow. Fake card, fake slab, seller who didn't realize it wasn't PSA until i pointed it out to him, and bids like that. Wow! I reported this to eBay and clearly nothing happened. 36 bids from 19 different bidders. It is proven that a fool and his money are soon parted. Here is the evidence. http://m.ebay.com/itm/1955-Topps-Roberto-Clemente-RC-PSA-NM-MT-likely-REPRINT-/331904787879?navSEARCH Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:04:35 +0000 (UTC) To: Vintage Traders Subject: NEW YORK CITY From: talbot1@comcast.net Hello All, I will not be able to attend the National in Atlantic City this year BUT I am planning a bit of a vacation to visit my daughter in New York City. I will be arriving next Tuesday on the 19th and will stay for a week. I would love to get together with fellow hobbyist while I am in town. A few of you responded when I was there in February and sadly I was not able to get together with anyone. This time I will be in town longer and I am going "solo" this time so I do not have to coordinate my every move with "she who must beobeyed". Some of the things I am considering while in town is to catch a ballgame, taking a side trip on the train onto Long Island to meet up with Kevin, and perhaps Sal and other Island residence, perhaps taking a side trip to Connecticut to meet up with extended family that I rarely see (I was born 60 years ago in Bristol and have cousins throughout New England). I would welcome the opportunity to meet up with anyone along the way. I will be relying on public transportation for the most part unless I go to CT and I will rent a car - so let me know, get in touch with me if you are availablefrom the 19th - the 26th. Thanks for thinking about it!!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK ================= To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:07:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Old movie posters From: David Fallen No posters, but since you brought up Bogart, one cannot ignore The Maltese Falcon -- One of my favorite actors (Bogart) playing one of my favorite hard-boiled detectives (Sam Spade) from a book written by one of my favorite authors (Dashiell Hammett). Also worthy is The African Queen. The chemistry between Bogart and Hepburn is amazing. We seem to have similar tastes in the classics but here is one you may have missed: The Forbidden Planet. Just a great early sci-fi movie. Who doesn't love Robbie the Robot? On 7/14/2016 6:15 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Long, dull ramble alert! > I have found myself enamored with Turner Classic Movies Channel this year. > I like the movies, although mostly I just turn them on and fall asleep > instantly. > Give me some classic Bogart or Edward G. Robinson, or Gable, Jimmy > Stewart & John Wayne and i might stay awake past the opening > credits...no knock at all on the movies. I want to watch them, and > despite being in the TV business, I have no interest in most TV shows > besides sports and some history or science documentaries. I've had fun > watching the old classics like Key Largo, Casablanca and Treasure of > the Sierra Madre. > So now I am looking at the bonus room over our upstairs hall. It was a > temporary crash pad for my son, he has since moved back to his old > bedroom down the hall...he moved back in with me last December after > about a year and a half on his own. I hear kids tend to do that :-) > Anyway, that's the only room in the house with any wall space left. I > think I'd like to convert it to a media room and watch my old movies > in there. It's got a big TV that won't fit in his room LOL. > The decorative motif should be like a theater lobby. Yeah, a lobby ! > So do any of you collect old movie posters? Old like 30's and 40's > would be the era I am most interested in, although the next two > decades after that certainly have classics too. > If so...where do you find them? I assume eBay, but I am trying to wean > myself from there... > Anyone have old movie posters that they have grown tired of? I have > room for 5 or 6 tops so the collection will be limited. > Forgetting the posters for a minute...tell me about your own old movie > obsession? What ones are in your favorites list? > Besides the three movies I listed above...I like North by Northwest, > (most Hitchcock movies are really good) anything with Steve McQueen > and the occasional gangster movie...or westerns LOL. > Back to your normal programming, > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 02:29:55 -0500 To: "talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] NEW YORK CITY From: John Leroux ================= Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 10:04:37 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rant! From: "Thomas W. Billing" Good for you for trying to do the right thing. eBay does not give a care about any of this, just about making money. COMC is just as bad re JoesHitShow and his jacking up prices after someone makes an offer. Yesterday I thought I had found great 1954 Topps variations of Harry Dorishand Jim Delsing with a solid orange logo instead of the usual Tiger or White Sox logo. The fine print from both sellers said it was a =E2=9Cstockphoto=E2=9D which is supposed to be a no no with eBay, as I was told all three times in the past that I reported this practice. I sent one a question and they replied that it was a stock photo of the ARCHIVES version of the card. I was annoyed enough I did not even reply to complain about using a stock photo AND having it pass for an authentic vintage card. Jim and Steves was one of them and I am surprised at them for doing this since I have visited their store in Waukegan many times and spent some serious dough.The other may have been Burbank, an habitual offender of the highest ilk.I guess the saying =E2=9Cbuyer beware=E2=9D Tom Billing > On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:55 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > A few days ago I shared a link to a "PSA graded PSA 8 Clemente" rookie that was a "likely reprint." > Aside from being a reproduction the slab wasn't PSA. It clearly said BRGS. > Today that auction ended....at $168.50 plus $4 shipping. > Wow! Just wow. Fake card, fake slab, seller who didn't realize it wasn't PSA until i pointed it out to him, and bids like that. Wow! > I reported this to eBay and clearly nothing happened. > 36 bids from 19 different bidders. It is proven that a fool and his moneyare soon parted. Here is the evidence. > http://m.ebay.com/itm/1955-Topps-Roberto-Clemente-RC-PSA-NM-MT-likely-REPRINT-/331904787879?navSEARCH > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 17:37:35 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1974 Topps WAIVER WIRE (includes Red Team CLs w/ variations!) From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Another WAIVER WIRE offering today! Most cards are less than gorgeous. :) 1974 Topps: 134, 162, 162, 266, 166, 266, 320, 374, 381, 437, 466, 469, 507, 514, 557, 603, 603 1974 Topps Red Team Checklists: ONE * Atlanta, Detroit, Houston, Philadelphia TWO ** Atlanta, Atlanta, Chicago Cubs, Detroit, Montreal, Philadelphia,Philadelphia, 1974 Topps Traded: 23, 42, 42, 42, 43, 59, 123, 123, 123, 123, 123, 139, 139, 175, 182, 319, 348, 373, 373, 373, 486, 486, 486, 496, 516, 534, 534, 612, 618, 618, 618, 648, 649 Please send your address! Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 15 Jul 2016 15:22:53 -0700 To: Subject: Cheap 55 Aaron on ebay From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 15 Jul 2016 15:47:57 -0700 To: Subject: EBAY HELP From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 15 Jul 2016 15:52:48 -0700 To: Subject: more helo From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:53:12 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, VCT , Subject: 1960s Kahn's cards for trade From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I have quite a few Kahn's cards for trade from 1962 to 1969. LMK if you can use anything! 1962 Cline and Jay 1963 Burgess, Edwards, Pinson, Stafford (2) 1964 Alvis, Lynch, Pinson, Purkey, Virdon, Whitfield (2) 1966 Cardenas and Whitfield (with part of the tab) 1969 Johnson Generally, all are low grade. Sent from my iPad ================= To: James Moleta , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:37:50 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap 55 Aaron on ebay From: Aaron Shirley Sold by the time I looked at it. Is it gonna find a home amongst the OBC brotherhood? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:22:53 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap 55 Aaron on ebay BIN & shipped for under $15! 1955 BOWMAN HANK AARON 2ND YEAR CARD, ORIGINAL LOW-GRADE CONDTION 1955 BOWMAN HANK AARON 2ND YEAR CARD... US $9.95 Acceptable in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Cards, Baseball View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo ================= Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 00:44:37 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap 55 Aaron on ebay From: Yahoo Who ever got it stole it!. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 16, 2016, at 00:37, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Sold by the time I looked at it. Is it gonna find a home amongst the OBC brotherhood? > Aaron > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:22:53 -0700 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap 55 Aaron on ebay > BIN & shipped for under $15! > 1955 BOWMAN HANK AARON 2ND YEAR CARD, ORIGINAL LOW-GRADE CONDTION > 1955 BOWMAN HANK AARON 2ND YEAR CARD... > US $9.95 Acceptable in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Cards, Baseball > View on www.ebay.com > Preview by Yahoo ================= Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 11:50:29 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: 55 topps jackie robinson bv From: John Dahms hoping someone can help me out with bv on 55 robinson card. thanks in advance John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:14:32 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Old baseball team shirts From: Yahoo These are all pretty cool. Those are Ebbetts Field Flannel shirts. http://www.ebbets.com/?gclidCjwKEAjwtqe8BRCs-9DdpMOilBoSJAAyqWz_fgE3AZHj84UmZet8LeMM-6UGA82yeW5AMGUR74TUqR= Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 16 Jul 2016 09:48:54 -0700 To: Subject: Gone for a while (but hopefully not forgotten) From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 13:06:29 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gone for a while (but hopefully not forgotten) From: Ken M Ed,  The only shop I know that might be still around is in Old Town (I think it's in Kissimmee). Not much in the way of vintage or low prices though. If you do stop by, see if he still has that VG'ish Seaver RC that hecs had overpriced for what would be about 20 years now. :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Jul 16, 2016 12:48 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Gone for a while (but hopefully not forgotten) Hey OBC, I'm off on my honeymoon starting tomorrow morning. 12 days of the Florida sun, amusement parks, and beach! If I have promised you cards, they will be mailed when I get home If you have packages or stuff pulled for me, please dont mail it for a couple weeks, our mailbox is small, and we didnt have our mail stopped. Even though my brother in law will be checking it, its easier if stuff waits! I will have my phone and computer to keep up on OBC, but I wont be with my cards I'll be with my wife, a much more enjoyable option, even though I love the cards too! By the way- if anyone knows of a decent card store in Orlando, Id love the name, we will have an open day or two! Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: 16 Jul 2016 11:51:55 -0700 To: Subject: Pleasant EBay Experience From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: 16 Jul 2016 17:27:06 -0700 To: Subject: Does anyone have a Type set list? From: nmack03@yahoo.com ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 20:58:03 -0400 Subject: Availables From: "Bob Donaldson" Have the following odd balls available. Please include name and address in your request. Mark Koenig 4 in 1 exhibt cut Boxing Strip Card #6? Lew Tendler? 1939 Playball 37 100, 108 149 all poor 1939 Playball 9 10 11 91 109 110 al labout vg/ex except they have a small burn mark on the border Group of 7 1960 all with paper glue to the back, offering as a lot, includes Stengel 191? Hassan Indian Life - Squaw Gathering Grapes Uncle Sam #54 Soldier, 61 Marine, 65 Marine Horrors of War 85 96 168 114 1929 Zeenut Co?ch Seals TCMA the 60s McDowell 1970 Topps Poster Wise 1933 Goudey Reprint Lajoie 1974 Fleer Pioneers of BB #s 1 24 25 1969 MLB Stamp Larry Dierker 1950s? US Navy Ships C.S.C. III # 53 55 57 1935 Diamond Stars Cliff Bolton (lots of punch holes) ================= Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:17:08 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: *CLOSEOUT* Guru Dupes Box Cleanout *CLOSEOUT* From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Claim Away! 1. 1970 Topps =E2=9CWay-Out Wheels #21 features a convertible Mustang 2. Starter set 53 different 1969 Topps football =E2=9Cminis=E2=9D no albums 3. 1959 Topps =E2=9CWacky Plak=E2=9D #55 4. 1962 Topps stamp panel of two Ramos and Cepeda 5. 1962 Topps stamp panel of two Red Sox and Phillies 6. 1962 Topps stamp panel of two Pizarro and Baldachin (end tab detached but 7. 1962 Topps stamp panel of two Demeter and Sullivan 8. 1962 Topps stamp single Wilhelm 9. 1962 Topps stamp single Pappas 10. 1962 Topps stamp single Friend 11. 1961 Topps stamp single Garver 12. 1961 Topps football wax pack insert =E2=9Cflocked sticker=E2=9D LA Rams missing end piece 13. 1961 Topps football wax pack insert =E2=9Cflocked sticker Phil Eagles missing end piece 14. 1932 Bulgaria Sport Photo #253 w skater Sonja Henie 15. 1970 Donruss Oddest Odd Rods #96 features a souped up Ford Pinto! 16. 1952 Bowman large football #121 17. 1954 Bowman football #104 18. 1965 Glidrose James Bond #6 (nmber in circle) 19. 1963 Topps Astronauts (3-D backs) #53 20. 1961 Donruss Idiot Cards #64 21. 1953 Bowman Firefighters #62 22. 1953 Bowman Firefighter #63 23. 1961 Fleer Pirates Bold #59 24. 1956 Topps Jets #121 25. 1956 Gum Inc Adventure #57 26. 1972 Fleer =E2=9CRace USA=E2=9D #43 27. starter set of seven different A&BC =E2=9CBattle=E2=9D (small sized) 28. 1972 Donruss =E2=9CVOTE=E2=9D sticker #21 29. 1957 Topps =E2=9CHit-Stars=E2=9D #83 Sammy Davis Jr. 30. 1962 Casey and Kildare #23 has a checklist on the back! 31. starter set of three diff 1967 Anglo Confectionery =E2=9CCaptain Scarlet=E2=9D #4 #10 #34 32. 1965 Topps baseball #543 33. 1970 Fleer World Series (blue backs) #7 Cubs vs As 34. 1970 Fleer World Series (blue backs) #9 Giants vs Red Sox 35. 1970 Fleer World Series (blue backs) #25 Cards vs Yanks 36. 1970 Fleer World Series (blue backs) #56 Dodgers vs White Sox 37. 1961 Post Cereal baseball #66 38. 1961 Post Cereal baseball #120 39. 1962 Post Cereal baseball #162 40. 1962 Post Cereal baseball #160 41. 1963 Post Cereal baseball #137 42. 1975 Hostess (I think) panel of three Wynn Scott Luzinski (#25 #26 #27) 43. 1975 Hostess (I think) panel of three Bailey Carew Hebner (#55 #56 #57) 44. 1976 Hostess (I think) panel of three Lynn Morgan Niekro (#1 #2 #3) 45. 1976 Hostess (I think) panel of three McCovey Lozinski Parrish (#124 #125 46. 1977 Hostess (I think) panel of three Reuschel Fisk Slaton (#103 #104 #105) 47. 1910 T218 =E2=9CChampions=E2=9D (Mecca back) runner John Hayes 48. This weird sticker card (1980s) two field hockey players (girls) with their arm around each other entitled =E2=9CFRIENDSHIP=E2=9D maybe from=E280s =E2=9CSupergirl=E2=9D set 49. =E2=9CLeftover Lot=E2=9D Anything NOT claimed, send it to me! ================= To: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:40:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Does anyone have a Type set list? From: "George Vrechek" This might do the job for you for baseball only. It lists sets based on the SCD Catalogs through about 1999 showing year of issue, name and number of cards in the set. You only need about 11,000 cards to kill off this quest through 1999. You need a lot more to continue to 2016. If you stop after 1980, you only need a lousy 2,158 cards - maybe. My wild-assed guess is that a challenging goal might be 1,000 vintage type cards. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:59:39 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1968 Topps / O-Pee-Chee poster Roberto Bob Clemente #4 From: Rick Great day today I just won this OPC poster it's been several years since I made progress on this set stuck on Clemente,killebrew and Morgan. The Morgan supposedly doesn't exist and it probably been two years since I have seen the Clemente and killebrew come up on eBay. Both came up as well as most of the set and I thought I bid strong on both $41 for the killebrew and $61for the Clemente. Lost the killebrew but won the Clemente for $27 go figure. I really thought I would have to be really lucky to win both but was really hoping for one. It's been on my yearly goal to knock one off the past few years I made one to no avail, this year I didn't participate and I got one again go figure. Rick View item: 1968 Topps / O-Pee-Chee poster Roberto Bob Clemente #4 End Time: Jul 17, 2016, 11:33:56 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:10:03 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 Topps / O-Pee-Chee poster Roberto Bob Clemente #4 From: Andy Huntoon That's awesome man. Congratulations on seeing it finally when someone listed it and for winning it at a nice price. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Great day today I just won this OPC poster it's been several years since I made progress on this set stuck on Clemente,killebrew and Morgan. The Morgan supposedly doesn't exist and it probably been two years since I have seen the Clemente and killebrew come up on eBay. Both came up as well as most of the set and I thought I bid strong on both $41 for the killebrew and $61 for the Clemente. Lost the killebrew but won the Clemente for $27 go figure. I really thought I would have to be really lucky to win both but was really hoping for one. It's been on my yearly goal to knock one off the pastfew years I made one to no avail, this year I didn't participate and I gotone again go figure. Rick > View item: > 1968 Topps / O-Pee-Chee poster Roberto Bob Clemente #4 > End Time: Jul 17, 2016, 11:33:56 AM PDT > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:42:18 -0500 Subject: Cooperstown From: Yaz I made a mention of this a couple of weeks ago but I'll mention it again. Wade and I and my golfing partner and his son are leaving Friday on a drive to Cooperstown to see Wade's guy Griffey Jr. and Mike Piazza get inducted into the Hall of Fame. It would be shame to miss any of you that might also be making this trip, so if you are let me know. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: 17 Jul 2016 21:55:33 -0700 To: Subject: mall show finds From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 01:05:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Another $20 well spent...I am on a roll From: Joshua Levine So, earlier in the week I spent a day with Mike Rich and made a large Phillies buy (the story and details were on the thanks server but it included nearly 4500 cards including some vintage, HOFers, signed cards, small sets, and shiny #'ed stuff). Today, for the first time in months, I made the trek down the street to ourlocal swap meet that happens every Sunday. I rarely find anything...the last large find was an 800 count box of 1970 topps mid to high series four orfive years ago. I walked down the second aisle and saw four bats on the ground. Walked over and he had some sports stuff. A very rough Ted Williams glove from the late '50s, 4 game used bats from Dodger players (Samuel, Daniels, Offerman, Hamilton...any idea what gamers go for? I have no idea). In a box he had a bunch of cards. The first thing I saw were three Target packets from about 10 years ago celebrating 100 years of Dodgers...I looked in the box and under those was a complete set of 1990 Donruss and 1991 Topps. Sitting sandwiched in between the sets and a recent Dodger bobble head was a grocery bag. I look in the back and spy vintage. First thing I saw was that it contained about 500 cards and sitting on top was a '71 Ted Williams. I pick up the bag and quickly glance inside and see that it seems to contain mostly '74s and '75s but I figure if he quotes me a price around $30, I might take a chance on a Brett or Yount RC or ??? He says $20, I say thanks and take the bag. Get home and go through the bag...Here is what was in the hoard. Ranged from truly Tipton mint (water stained, warped, and written on) to nrmt. 21 '57 Ed-U-Cards assorted plays 1 '59 Sparky Anderson (yep, the only '50s Topps card happens to be a Phillies HOF RC!) 1 '61 Red Schoendist 1 '63 Topps 1 '64 Topps 2 '65 Topps 1 '66 Topps 8 '67 Topps incl. Hodges 7 '68 Topps incl. Santo 54 '68 Topps Game cards including one complete set and extras of Aaron, Clemente, both Robinsons, Rose and commons. 15 '69 Topps incl. Williams shows how, Hunter, and Santo 6 '70 Topps incl. Ted Williams 19 '71 Topps incl. Ted Williams, Santo, and one high number 18 '72 Topps incl. Martin, Kaline, and Carlton Traded (yep...another tough Phillie and in nice condition too!) 7 '73 Topps incl. Kaline 257 '74 Topps incl. two complete traded subsets, Nolan Ryan, Hank Aaron, a bunch of Aaron tribute cards, a bunch of All-star and World Series cards. 208 '75 Topps incl. Nolan Ryan, Nolan Ryan highlights, Seaver, Kaline, Carlton, Hunter, Gossage and other highlights and MVP tribute cards. 3 '76 Topps He also threw in the three unopened Dodger packets as well. Overall, I was very happy with the bag of cards. I might go back next Sunday if I can figure out how much game used bats go for. ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 01:10:32 -0400 To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another $20 well spent...I am on a roll From: mikesportsfan@aol.com It seems finds can still be had. Persistence and luck. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 1:05 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Another $20 well spent...I am on a roll So, earlier in the week I spent a day with Mike Rich and made a large Phillies buy (the story and details were on the thanks server but it included nearly 4500 cards including some vintage, HOFers, signed cards, small sets, and shiny #'ed stuff). Today, for the first time in months, I made the trek down the street to ourlocal swap meet that happens every Sunday. I rarely find anything...the last large find was an 800 count box of 1970 topps mid to high series four orfive years ago. I walked down the second aisle and saw four bats on the ground. Walked over and he had some sports stuff. A very rough Ted Williams glove from the late '50s, 4 game used bats from Dodger players (Samuel, Daniels, Offerman, Hamilton...any idea what gamers go for? I have no idea). In a box he had a bunch of cards. The first thing I saw were three Target packets from about 10 years ago celebrating 100 years of Dodgers...I looked in the box and under those was a complete set of 1990 Donruss and 1991 Topps. Sitting sandwiched in between the sets and a recent Dodger bobble head was a grocery bag. I look in the back and spy vintage. First thing I saw was that it contained about 500 cards and sitting on top was a '71 Ted Williams. I pick up the b ag and quickly glance inside and see that it seems to contain mostly '74s and '75s but I figure if he quotes me a price around $30, I might take a chance on a Brett or Yount RC or ??? He says $20, I say thanksand take the bag. Get home and go through the bag...Here is what was in the hoard. Ranged from truly Tipton mint (water stained, warped, and written on) to nrmt. 21 '57 Ed-U-Cards assorted plays 1 '59 Sparky Anderson (yep, the only '50s Topps card happens to be a Phillies HOF RC!) 1 '61 Red Schoendist 1 '63 Topps 1 '64 Topps 2 '65 Topps 1 '66 Topps 8 '67 Topps incl. Hodges 7 '68 Topps incl. Santo 54 '68 Topps Game cards including one complete set and extras of Aaron, Clemente, both Robinsons, Rose and commons. 15 '69 Topps incl. Williams shows how, Hunter, and Santo 6 '70 Topps incl. Ted Williams 19 '71 Topps incl. Ted Williams, Santo, and one high number 18 '72 Topps incl. Martin, Kaline, and Carlton Traded (yep...another tough Phillie and in nice condition too!) 7 '73 Topps incl. Kaline 257 '74 Topps incl. two complete traded subsets, Nolan Ryan, Hank Aaron, a bunch of Aaron tribute cards, a bunch of All-star and World Series cards. 208 '75 Topps incl. Nolan Ryan, Nolan Ryan highlights, Seaver, Kaline, Carlton, Hunter, Gossage and other highlights and MVP tribute cards. 3 '76 Topps He also threw in the three unopened Dodger packets as well. Overall, I was very happy with the bag of cards. I might go back next Sunday if I can figure out how much game used bats go for. ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:01:18 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC Subject: Monthlong recap From: Stamper It has been a very busy past month or two. Had to finish a bathroom remodelin time for my best friend from High School to visit. That following week down to San Diego to visit the Grandkids. Than a trip up the coast from So Cal to the Oregon Washington border and back down in a week. And met up with Mike Rich. Actually Mike stayed at the house for a week. We took in a Dodgers Padres game on Saturday night with a movie in the park after. Top Gun was a good choice and it was fun to watch at the field. Sunday we went downto San Diego to catch the All Star festivities. Karyn joined us for this trip. It was both our first All Star experience and it was a blast. Stopped in San Juan Capistrano for a look at the old Mission and some lunch. We even got Mike into a Mass that was being held near the Mission. Petco Park is an awesome place to watch a game and we say two with Fireworks after. Drovehome after the festivities were done. Made for a long day but well worth it. Tuesday I picked up Raleigh and Karyn came home early. We had a lot if food while we watched the All Star game. Ate ice cream out of mini helmets. Yankees for Raleigh, Padres for Karyn and of course Tigers for Mike. It wasnice having everyone at the house for the game. Finally on Wednesday we had time for cards. Mike showed me his pick ups along the way. He got some good stuff at great prices. We swapped some cardboard and I shared some odd ball binders with Mike. Saturday morning Mike headed out to Vegas to continue his journey. Before he left we took a couple of family pictures which included the dogs. Mike enjoyed them while he was here. And yesterday I played three Softball games...won them all. The first game got us into the playoffs. The other two were for a different league and at a different field. That season is just under way. Mike thanks for being such a great guest. John Stamper ================= To: , Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:39:24 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Cooperstown From: "Bob Donaldson" I=E2=99m going in September, sorry I=E2=99ll miss you. You should definitely check out the BB Card show at the VFW (I believe) that Mark Macraesets up in on HOF weekend Have fun From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Yaz yazobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:42 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cooperstown I made a mention of this a couple of weeks ago but I'll mention it again. Wade and I and my golfing partner and his son are leaving Friday on a drive to Cooperstown to see Wade's guy Griffey Jr. and Mike Piazza get inducted into the Hall of Fame. It would be shame to miss any of you that might also be making this trip, so if you are let me know. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:14:50 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Selling on eBay can be fun! (update) From: LAWRENCE TIPTON My $2 antique mall find of that model rocket sold for $42.86 which I thought was pretty good:) I under-charged for shipping though and lost some there. I charged $4.55 and actual charges were $6.95 ( guess I packed it to well). Then eBay and PayPal take their share too and a quick google search saysthis will end up being 12% ( eBay 9% paypal 3%). 42.86 minus under charged shipping of $2.40 is $40.46 minus eBay fee $3.80 is $36.66 minus paypal fee $1.40 is $35.86. $35.86 time to go buy some baseball cards! ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:19:14 -0400 Subject: Question on Non-Sports From: "Bob Donaldson" The other weekend I made the rounds of antique stores/flea markets. I often see non-sport cards for sale and was curious if any of these are worth picking up. Usually see cards in $1-4 range. If any of these are of interest to anyone, and worth $1+ (almost never see cards nuder a $1) LMK and I will try and pick them up if I see in the future Charlies Angels Star Wars Hot Rod Magazine Cards (maybe 70s) Man on the Moon Green Hornet Flying Nun Davy Crocket Jet Planes (forget the actual name) ================= To: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:53:28 -0400 Subject: Thanks to OBC-Aaron for the OBC Shirt From: "Mark Holland" Not sure what server to put this on but thanks to Aaron for his efforts on the OBC T-shirts. I got mine today and really like it. He did a great job designing, ordering and shipping these. And thanks to whoever/wherever the additional funding came from. I know what I paid Aaron did not cover the shirt & shipping. This makes me want to go to the National. Thanks Aaron. Mark Holland Vintage List ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:57:19 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1974 Hockey stamps From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Does anyone need 1974 NHL Action player stamps, I have a bunch, most have back damage from being removed from the album, please let me know. Have a great dayNick Covello ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:05:33 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Thanks to OBC-Aaron for the OBC Shirt From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Hear Hear! Thanks Aaron Shirley for the effort, the shirts look great! Alsothanks to the anonymous OBC member who paid for the shipping! ================= Date: 18 Jul 2016 14:17:23 -0700 To: Subject: re: Thanks to OBC-Aaron for the OBC Shirt From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:49:30 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: AC or Bust From: Ken M Hi gang,  Just got back from dropping my car off at the dealership. Got it there at 7:01. The service center closes at 7:00. Fortunately there was a tech (punched out and closed up) who got my car info and left everything on the desk for the mechanics to handle first thing tomorrow morning.  Got out of work at 3:30. It was the easily the hottest day of the year so far here, hitting at least 95°. Turned the car on and the check engine light is on. It's been running a little rough, but that usually isn't enough to scare me, so I press on into the traffic and my hour commute home. The AC has been running a little warm, so on the way I decide to get the car checked tomorrow and have them look at that as well. It's my night with the kids, so I stop at the house to change out of my collared, heavy work shirt. I park in the driveway and the car practically stalls out. Now it won't start. As I get out of the car, I smell anti-freeze. Check the reservoir: bone dry. I don't have any anti-freeze at the house, so I throw some water in there and it's enough to get the car to start. I drive to an auto place as thunderstorms are beginning to loom. Grabbed a funnel and some anti-freeze and filled the reservoir. Car is still running pretty rough, and on the way to the auto parts store, I get a SECOND warning light. (Some VSA - Vehicle Stability Assistance indicator. Got that from the user manual, which says it's still driveable, but to get it checked ASAP.) Fine, now there's three things they can look at tomorrow. Text the wife: running late. Car prob. B there in 20 or so. She texts back: ok.  About 2/3 of the way there, waiting at a red light in heavy traffic, the engine stalls out. Fortunately, I was at the top of a slight hill and I managed to coast to the side of the road with the hazards flashing. Now the car won't start at all. Call the wife and tell her I won't make it. Then call the free roadside assistance that came with the car, which I've never us ed before (I haven't had the slightest problem with the car in six years.) ETA of the tow truck - 90+ minutes.  Tow truck gets there a bit early and he pulls up behind my car, so we're back to back. He asks what's wrong and I say it won't start, then hand him the key. He STARTS MY CAR and it runs perfectly - he backs it onto the flatbed and ties it down, then brings me and the car back to the dealership in Everett. We get there in the nick of time as previously mentioned. He drives it off the tow truck and parks it, hands me the key and says have a good day. The tech comes out to get my info (off the clock) to give to the people tomorrow morning. We start the car up to record the mileage - and NOW THERE'S **NO** WARNING LIGHTS ON and the car is purring like a kitten!! I bet if he turned the AC on, he woulda got frostbite too, but I had turned it off, so we'll never know. He was kind enough (or felt sorry for the crazy man) to offer me a ride home. I had him take me to the t rain station right down the street the other way though. I needed to put some more money on my bus pass, since I was going to be using it tomorrow when I pick up my Jekyll and Hyde car. We'll see what happens tomorrow. Will they find anything wrong? Will it cost a fortune? Did my antifreeze miraculousy cure everything? Did the check engine light burn out too? Will I be looking for a rental to drive to Atlantic City? Stay tuned... Ken M - thanks for reading a day in the life of an apparent crazy person :-) Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:55:10 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] AC or Bust From: ChicoD1@aol.com We'll see what happens tomorrow. Will they find anything wrong? Will it cost a fortune? Did my antifreeze miraculousy cure everything? Did the check engine light burn out too? The answers to these and other questions will be answered tomorrow...same Bat time, same Bat channel! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/18/2016 8:49:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:33:50 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Fw: 1974 Hockey stamps From: Nick Covello On Monday, July 18, 2016 2:35 PM, Nick Covello wrote: Hi Guys:Does anyone need 1974 NHL Action player stamps, I have a bunch, most have back damage from being removed from the album, please let me know. Have a great dayNick Covello ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:35:42 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: 1974 Hockey stamps From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Does anyone need 1974 NHL Action player stamps, I have a bunch, most have back damage from being removed from the album, please let me know. Have a great dayNick Covello ================= Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 18:08:33 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Thanks to OBC-Aaron for the OBC Shirt From: jdelott@aol.com Got mine. Couldn't look better. Jeffrey Delott -----Original Message----- From: james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2016 5:17 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Thanks to OBC-Aaron for the OBC Shirt Ditto what Mark and Guru said! I got mine today as well - so cool! Thanks to Aaron for spearheading and going the distance on this initiative. OBC - you gotta live it! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:04:06 -0400 Subject: cool pic trading 1971 Topps From: Shawn Smart Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thought I would ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 01:28:09 +0000 (UTC) To: yazobc@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cooperstown From: mark_macrae@comcast.net Be sure to stop by the show at the VFW Hall, diagonally across the street from the HOF. My buddy Teddy Z and myself will be setting up there on Fridayand Saturday. Always a fun time to be in a great city... Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yaz yazobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "obc-ramblings" Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:42:18 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cooperstown I made a mention of this a couple of weeks ago but I'll mention it again. Wade and I and my golfing partner and his son are leaving Friday on a drive to Cooperstown to see Wade's guy Griffey Jr. and Mike Piazza get inducted into the Hall of Fame. It would be shame to miss any of you that might also be making this trip, so if you are let me know. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 08:58:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCT , Subject: Low grade 1960 - 1962 Topps, Fleer, Post WAIVER WIRE From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Cleaning house a bit here. Whatever is not sent off to you guys will eventually go to EBay in a low grade/low cost BIN. So.....claim away! :) 1960 Fleer Medwick #22 1960 Topps #20, 45, 58, 69, 69, 70, 105, 123, 144, 165 1961 Post Curry #120 1961 Topps #9, 9, 15, 16, 16, 60, 60, 66, 73, 75, 75, 75, 76, 76, 81, 82, 82, 82, 82, 82, 82, 98, 98, 189, 189, 273 1962 Topps #79, 98, 98, 98, 112, 341 Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 13:13:01 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Small waiver wire From: Shawn Smart Stuck home today with pinkeye. Small waiver wire for anyone that needs. 1964 Topps 234 Gary Bell 1967 Topps 208 Jack Lamabe 1969 Topps 29, 93, 110, 403 1971 Topps 11, 33 1979 Topps 63 1980 Topps 121 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 15:19:44 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Heating up for vacation From: Ken M Hi gang,  Well, the verdict is in on the car. Apparently, there was a hose that got cut. This caused a coolant leak and my radiator was damaged, plus some sensor and the hose of course. Estimate is almost a cool grand (pun intended) to fix it. It puts a huge dent, nay wipes out my card money for the National, but it won't stop me from going. I've got enough cardboard already anyway :-) Vacation starts in twelve days! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: 19 Jul 2016 13:47:52 -0700 To: Subject: Three 1952 Topps on Waiver From: mike.galbreath@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:14:51 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Three 1952 Topps on Waiver From: Mike Galbreath The three 1952 Topps have been claimed. Mike Galbreath On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:47 PM, mike.galbreath@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > These three are definitely OBC grade because each has back damage; all > appear removed from a scrapbook. > 4, 106, 235 > Yours for the asking. FCFS. > Mike Galbreath ================= To: Ken M , Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:33:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Heating up for vacation From: Yaz Seems overpriced to me. I'm thinking, junkyard radiator, new hose, screw that sensor and shade tree mechanic, (if you're not inclined). $450, no tax on the labor, $550 for the National. Just sayin'. Greg (yaz) On 7/19/2016 2:19 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi gang, > Well, the verdict is in on the car. Apparently, there was a hose > that got cut. This caused a coolant leak and my radiator was damaged, > plus some sensor and the hose of course. Estimate is almost a cool > grand (pun intended) to fix it. It puts a huge dent, nay wipes out my > card money for the National, but it won't stop me from going. I've got > enough cardboard already anyway :-) Vacation starts in twelve days! > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:33:58 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps [1 Attachment] From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I love it! I guess I was about their age back then. Got a TON of my 71's by flipping for "colors" in school... I call shades! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/19/2016 3:35:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://0d342f28/default.html#TopText) from ShoelessWes included below] That's really cool. Where and when are they? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Smart _shawnsmart@hotmail.com_ (mailto:shawnsmart@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thought I would share. ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:59:03 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps From: Jay Tysver Flipped for colors in 73. Can't quite remember how that worked. Any ideas? Jay Tysver > On Jul 19, 2016, at 6:33 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I love it! I guess I was about their age back then. Got a TON of my 71's by flipping for "colors" in school... I call shades! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 7/19/2016 3:35:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > That's really cool. Where and when are they? > Wes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thoughtI would share. >> ================= To: OBC Ramblings , OBC National Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:10:54 -0500 Subject: SHIRTS have been MAILED From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys. For the most part, the shirts have been mailed. - On the 15th, I mailed 13 packages to the guys who ordered one shirt. - On the 16th, I mailed 13 packages to the guys who ordered 2 or more shirts. - On the 18th, I mailed Steve Rittenberg's package. It went out separately because I wanted to send it to him at the hospital where he's been with hiswife for most of the last couple months! - And today, I mailed one box to Ken Morganti with 19 shirts for 10 guys. He's gonna deliver them at the National. A few exceptions: I still have... - one (Yudt) to go out tomorrow which should still get to you well before the Nat if you choose to go. - one (Rainsley) I am waiting to see what's up with the Canadian postal service before I mail it. - two I'm still waiting for payment (I won't say who, but I've been trying to contact you - check your mail please) - two for guys I *HOPE* to see next week (Rumley-Wells and hopefully Valacak) THERE ARE A FEW SHIRTS LEFT, FOR THOSE LATE TO THE PARTY: - FOREST GREEN, $7 each: LG (2 available) or XL (15 available). - FOREST GREEN, $9 each: XXL (5 available). - NAVY BLUE (with a pocket), $9 each: XL (2 available). I hope you love your shirts. Thanks to all who have already expressed theirthoughts. It's very kind of you to share your appreciation. Makes my day. Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:15:13 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps From: Shawn Smart ================= Date: 19 Jul 2016 18:05:16 -0700 To: Subject: Trip East - Baltimore Cleveland mid August From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:11:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en The way that worked is you would take turns turning a card over into a pile. You would go by the color of the team name. If you put down a card with say, an orange team name, then I put down a Met with the orange team name, I win the pile! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/19/2016 7:59:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jtysver1@msn.com writes: Flipped for colors in 73. Can't quite remember how that worked. Any ideas? Jay Tysver On Jul 19, 2016, at 6:33 PM, _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I love it! I guess I was about their age back then. Got a TON of my 71's by flipping for "colors" in school... I call shades! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/19/2016 3:35:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) That's really cool. Where and when are they? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Smart _shawnsmart@hotmail.com_ (mailto:shawnsmart@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thought I would share. ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:27:44 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SHIRTS have been MAILED From: Doug DeJong I got my shirt sometime in the last few days (had to leave town unexpectedly for a funeral) --- It looks great! Really nice job and much appreciated! On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 8:10 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey guys. For the most part, the shirts have been mailed. > - On the 15th, I mailed 13 packages to the guys who ordered one shirt. > - On the 16th, I mailed 13 packages to the guys who ordered 2 or more > shirts. > - On the 18th, I mailed Steve Rittenberg's package. It went out separately > because I wanted to send it to him at the hospital where he's been with his > wife for most of the last couple months! > - And today, I mailed one box to Ken Morganti with 19 shirts for 10 guys. > He's gonna deliver them at the National. > A few exceptions: I still have... > - one (Yudt) to go out tomorrow which should still get to you well before > the Nat if you choose to go. > - one (Rainsley) I am waiting to see what's up with the Canadian postal > service before I mail it. > - two I'm still waiting for payment (I won't say who, but I've been trying > to contact you - check your mail please) > - two for guys I *HOPE* to see next week (Rumley-Wells and hopefully > Valacak) > *THERE ARE A FEW SHIRTS LEFT, FOR THOSE LATE TO THE PARTY:* > - FOREST GREEN, $7 each: LG (2 available) or XL (15 available). > - FOREST GREEN, $9 each: XXL (5 available). > - NAVY BLUE (with a pocket), $9 each: XL (2 available). > I hope you love your shirts. Thanks to all who have already expressed > their thoughts. It's very kind of you to share your appreciation. Makes my > day. > Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 21:44:13 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.8 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Two weeks from tomorrow I will be on the road on my way to Atlantic City! Got all my handshakes set up, just have to hope COMC delivers in time! Missing info from Rob Fitts, Steve Sankner and Mark Holland. Let me know if there are any last minute additions or those who can't make it. I think if Aaron does the shirts next year, I will have one for every day in Chicago! Remember, this is all about fun. The best part of these trips is to meet other OBCers. Had a great 1 hour conversation with Mike Rich last night, keeping him company until he got to Cracker Barrel. We BS'd about his trip so far, the cards he got, cards we are looking for and a host of other things. Very cool stuff. I've known Mike for a ton of years now and it's always great to catch up with him. These are the things that make the National the coolest experience you will ever have in card board. I am looking forward to meeting some of the National rookies and the Vets. I think the last time I saw Wayne Delia was in 1997 at Fort Washington, otherwise known as Jim Montgomery bought WHAT? and he paid HOW MUCH? He finished my 69 set with a Ted I think we should all buy a pack of cards and open them for a YouTube Memories like this have lasted my lifetime and my 24 years in OBC. Let's make some new ones in 2 weeks! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Chelsea N Th-Fr Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Rob Fitts N Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North Y Th-Su Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Ron Hoehne 860-751-9337 Y F-M Mark Holland Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's Y F-Su Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 ? Y Fr-Sa Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Y Sat Randy Welk 599-392-1733 Y Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Chelsea Y Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 00:22:44 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: YOUR plan for the National From: ChicoD1@aol.com I've posted this in the past, and continues to make good sense. Trust me, any of us who have been to the National, pretty much stick within these http://www.cardboardconnection.com/the-national-sports-collectors-convention Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 00:25:08 -0400 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] YOUR plan for the National From: ShoelessWes Thanks Sal, This is truly doctrine way to go. Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2016, at 12:22 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] > I've posted this in the past, and continues to make good sense. Trust me,any of us who have been to the National, pretty much stick within these guidelines... > http://www.cardboardconnection.com/the-national-sports-collectors-convention-survival-guide > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 23:31:15 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] YOUR plan for the National From: OBC Nick P I will highly emphasize good walking shoes. This one can not be stressed enough. Floors are hard, the show is big, and your feet will feel it. Nick Pelletier > On Jul 19, 2016, at 11:22 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I've posted this in the past, and continues to make good sense. Trust me,any of us who have been to the National, pretty much stick within these guidelines... > http://www.cardboardconnection.com/the-national-sports-collectors-convention-survival-guide > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 00:43:08 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: You guys should read Rich Mueller From: ChicoD1@aol.com More National advice that is right on... http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/bound-for-national-sports-collectors-co Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:37:55 -0500 To: Ramblings Subject: Rittenberg update From: Steve Rittenberg I haven't posted here for a while. I post updates on Facebook and send viaemail. People are welcome to join the email list or follow on Facebook. The news here is very bad. Side effects from my wife's cancer treatment are now life-threatening. Things have truly become day-to-day. We may have some incredibly hard choices to make. She has been in an intensive care unit for 7 weeks now. She can speak but a trachea tune prevents sound from coming out so we read lips. After so long under sedation, her arms and hands are too weak to write or even text. I'm a basket case often. Inability to communicate adds to the distress we all feel. Ramblings and Thanks are usually joyous places so I haven't posted often about this brand of hell we are going through. Thank you for reading. Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Steve Rittenberg , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 12:27:35 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: Mac Wubben We're all here to help you carry the burden the best we can. Whatever you need brother. Vent here if it does you good. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:37 AM To: Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update I haven't posted here for a while. I post updates on Facebook and send via email. People are welcome to join the email list or follow on Facebook. The news here is very bad. Side effects from my wife's cancer treatment arenow life-threatening. Things have truly become day-to-day. We may have some incredibly hard choices to make. She has been in an intensive care unit for 7 weeks now. She can speak but a trachea tune prevents sound from comingout so we read lips. After so long under sedation, her arms and hands are too weak to write or even text. I'm a basket case often. Inability to communicate adds to the distress we all feel. Ramblings and Thanks are usually joyous places so I haven't posted often about this brand of hell we are going through. Thank you for reading. Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "'Jay Tysver'" , Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:58:23 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps From: "Bob Donaldson" We flipped for whomever got closest to the wall. 1968-74. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Tysver JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:59 PM To: ChicoD1@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps Flipped for colors in 73. Can't quite remember how that worked. Any ideas? Jay Tysver On Jul 19, 2016, at 6:33 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: I love it! I guess I was about their age back then. Got a TON of my 71's byflipping for "colors" in school... I call shades! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/19/2016 3:35:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: That's really cool. Where and when are they? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thought I would ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:55:22 -0400 To: Steve Rittenberg , Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: JDahms ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:09:39 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps From: Yep, 1971 was my final year of flipping. Explains why all my 71's have well-dinged corners. Our favorite game was "knocksies". You'd lean one card up against a wall, and take turns flipping cards from about 10 feet away. The person whose card knocked down the leaning card got all the cards out there. (We won't even talk about how many Rose, Bench, Carew, Yaz, etc. cards I traded for Terry Harmon, Tony Taylor and Chris Short!) ---- "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: ============= We flipped for whomever got closest to the wall. 1968-74. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Tysver JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 7:59 PM To: ChicoD1@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps Flipped for colors in 73. Can't quite remember how that worked. Any ideas? Jay Tysver On Jul 19, 2016, at 6:33 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: I love it! I guess I was about their age back then. Got a TON of my 71's by flipping for "colors" in school... I call shades! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/19/2016 3:35:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: That's really cool. Where and when are they? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thought I would share. ================= To: Steve Rittenberg , Ramblings Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:01:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: richard dingman I was surprised to read this, the last post I saw had tentative optimism, and now this! So sad to hear, really feel for all you must be going through. It's hard enough for the one afflicted, but also very painful for loved ones. You are in our thoughts. Richard D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:55 AM To: Steve Rittenberg; Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update I second what Mac says Steve. If I have learned anything about these guys in our great group is that everyone is considered family. We are all here for you and your wife in whatever way we can be. My thoughts are with you guys Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 7/20/2016 6:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update I haven't posted here for a while. I post updates on Facebook and send via email. People are welcome to join the email list or follow on Facebook. The news here is very bad. Side effects from my wife's cancer treatment arenow life-threatening. Things have truly become day-to-day. We may have some incredibly hard choices to make. She has been in an intensive care unit for 7 weeks now. She can speak but a trachea tune prevents sound from comingout so we read lips. After so long under sedation, her arms and hands are too weak to write or even text. I'm a basket case often. Inability to communicate adds to the distress we all feel. Ramblings and Thanks are usually joyous places so I haven't posted often about this brand of hell we are going through. Thank you for reading. Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:22:43 -0400 To: OBC ramblings Subject: The longest yard From: ShoelessWes Played a little lineman in high school football. Pulling guard, defensive end. Gave it up for the infantry. Some move. Too many wars pushed me into public service in Ohio. Except now, we have our own insurgency. Its been an interesting 15 years for me, as it has for many. The last 2 in particular. Wish I could say I'm stranger to scratching for every yard of life that comes in front of me. I've been waiting for the president to tell People to quit attacking public servants. Instead, the rhetoric is like kerosine. Today, my next yard got a bit shorter. "MARK HOLLAND" sent me a nice box of120+ hits to my 1975 football run. Staubach and Alzado included. Sends a nice note with it. Thanks for pushin' me through the line Mark, it really did help. Because the insurgency in Dayton is strong. They even cancelled thefirst debate for the year. And like the exhausted lineman, I'm just hopin for the next quarter, or maybe a president to call time out. Or maybe the coach will eventually say fight back, go for the touchdown. For now, unfortunately, i just gotta execute the plays, as called, with a crooked referee. Did I mean president? Er, no politics. Uh, I'm talkin football, right? Tardy thanks also to Sam Taylor and Jimi Thayer for the previous thanks. The Rittenbergs in my prayers, and everyone have safe travels to Jersey! Especially Mike Rich, be careful driving all those miles. OBC rules, Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:33:53 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Rittenburg Update From: Larry Tipton Thoughts and prayers for you and your wife Steve. We are here for you! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:06:38 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: The National From: ChicoD1@aol.com More good info from Rich Mueller! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: editor@sportscollectorsdaily.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/20/2016 9:47:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: The National Thanks Sal. Glad you guys can make use of those tips. I learned through experience! Here's a very similar article we carried: http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/national-sports-collectors-convention-some-tips-for-attende We've got a special NSCC section as well. You can find that here: http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/category/national-sports-collectors-convention-2 Rich Mueller _Sports Collectors Daily_ (http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/) (812) 455-1686 _Facebook_ (http://www.facebook.com/sportscollectorsdaily?ref=ts) _Twitter_ (https://twitter.com/SportsCollector) Click _here_ (http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/about-sports-collectors-daily/newsletter/) to get our daily headlines in your email (free) Want to see the current 'most watched' sports cards on eBay? We've got it _here_ (http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/whats-hot-on-ebay/) . On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:48 PM, <_ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) > wrote: Just reread your article on "A Little Advice for the National". Truer words were never spoken. I have shared this with the OBC crowd again. We have a few rookies coming this year. http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/bound-for-national-sports-collectors-co Thanks again for a great site chock full of great info! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 00:10:39 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Hang in there Steve, There's over a 100 phone numbers you can use if you need to... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/20/2016 6:38:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I haven't posted here for a while. I post updates on Facebook and send via email. People are welcome to join the email list or follow on Facebook. The news here is very bad. Side effects from my wife's cancer treatment are now life-threatening. Things have truly become day-to-day. We may have some incredibly hard choices to make. She has been in an intensive care unit for 7 weeks now. She can speak but a trachea tune prevents sound from coming out so we read lips. After so long under sedation, her arms and hands too weak to write or even text. I'm a basket case often. Inability to communicate adds to the distress we all feel. Ramblings and Thanks are usually joyous places so I haven't posted often about this brand of hell we are going through. Thank you for reading. Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 01:50:56 -0400 To: Mark Talbot Subject: Re: [VCT] NEW YORK CITY From: Mark Talbot Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2016, at 1:43 AM, Mark Talbot wrote: > Hello all, > So here's an update for tomorrow and the weekend in my travels in New York City. I will be meeting up with Rob Fitts for lunch tomorrow in the Bronx. I will then be making my way to Hicksville Long Island where I plan on being there for dinner at Peppercorns by 5 PM. I expect to see Jeff Delott, Kevin Martens, hopefully Sal Domino and anyone else you can make it to that part of Long Island to meet with us. > I have not finalized plans for Saturday afternoon but I am planning on making my way to the Poughkeepsie New York -Danbury Connecticut area. Bob Bannon has offered to host us that afternoon and I'm likely to take him up on it. I am likely to have more firm commitment on my end once I get an idea about renting a car. > Sunday morning I am going to do breakfast prior to meeting some hobbyist at the Milford Elks club show. Just like my plans for Saturday I'll be getting more firm commitment for you in the coming days stay posted. I really do hope to see as many of my friends in the New York and Connecticut area aspossible. Be well!!!! > Regards -------- Mark > Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2016, at 12:04 AM, "talbot1@comcast.net" wrote: >> Hello All, >> I will not be able to attend the National in Atlantic City this year BUT I am planning a bit of a vacation to visit my daughter in New York City. I will be arriving next Tuesday on the 19th and will stay for a week. I would love to get together with fellow hobbyist while I am in town. A few of you responded when I was there in February and sadly I was not able to get together with anyone. This time I will be in town longer and I am going "solo" this time so I do not have to coordinate my every move with "shewho must be obeyed". Some of the things I am considering while in town isto catch a ballgame, taking a side trip on the train onto Long Island to meet up with Kevin, and perhaps Sal and other Island residence, perhaps taking a side trip to Connecticut to meet up with extended family that I rarelysee (I was born 60 years ago in Bristol and have cousins throughout New England). I would welcome the opportunity to meet up with anyone along the way. I will be relying on public transportation for the most part unless I go to CT and I will rent a car - so let me know, get in touch with me if you are available from the 19th - the 26th. Thanks for thinking about it!!!!BE >> REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK >> _____________________________________________________________ >> -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com >> -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:42:38 -0400 To: talbot1@comcast.net, talbotm@huronacademy.org Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [VCT] NEW YORK CITY From: biggies@aol.com Glad to hear we will see you Mark, and please, everyone is invited. Its supposed to be 94 degrees Saturday and we are on a lake, so any and all are welcome with family to cool off and enjoy the grill. Please let me know if you can stop by so we can plan accordingly. My address is 1 Shady Knolls in Danbury and my cell is 203-509-9076 if you want to text me. Thanks, bob -----Original Message----- From: Mark Talbot talbot1@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Mark Talbot Cc: Vintage Traders ; ramblings, OBC Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 1:52 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [VCT] NEW YORK CITY Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2016, at 1:43 AM, Mark Talbot wrote: Hello all, So here's an update for tomorrow and the weekendin my travels in New York City. I will be meeting up with Rob Fitts for lunch tomorrow in the Bronx. I will then be making my way to Hicksville Long Island where I plan onbeing there for dinner at Peppercorns by 5 PM. I expect to see Jeff Delott, Kevin Martens, hopefully Sal Domino and anyone else you can make it to that part of Long Island to meet with us. I have not finalized plans for Saturday afternoon but I am planning on making my way to the Poughkeepsie New York -Danbury Connecticut area. Bob Bannon has offered to host us that afternoon and I'm likely to take him up on it. I am likely to have more firm commitment on my end once I get an idea about renting a car. Sunday morning I am going to do breakfast prior to meeting some hobbyist atthe Milford Elks club show. Just like my plans for Saturday I'll be getting more firm commitment for you in the coming days stay posted. I really do hope to see as many of my friends in the New York and Connecticut area as possible. Be well!!!! Regards -------- Mark Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2016, at 12:04 AM, "talbot1@comcast.net" wrote: Hello All, I will not be able to attend the National in Atlantic City this year BUT I am planning a bit of a vacation to visit my daughter in New York City. I will be arriving next Tuesday on the 19th and will stay for a week. I would love to get together with fellow hobbyist while I am in town. A few of you responded when I was there in February and sadly I was not able to get together with anyone. This timeI will be in town longer and I am going "solo" this time so I do not have to coordinate my every move with "she who must be obeyed". Some of the things I am considering while in town is to catch a ballgame, taking a side trip on the train onto Long Island to meet up with Kevin, and perhaps Sal and other Island residence, perhaps taking a side trip to Connecticut to meet up with extended family that I rarely see (I was born 60 years ago in Bristol and have cousins throughout New England). I would welcome theopportunity to meet up with anyone along the way. I will be relying on public transportation for the most part unless I go to CT and I will rent a car - so let me know, get in touch with me if you are available from the 19th - the 26th. Thanks for thinking about it!!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: 21 Jul 2016 07:55:33 -0700 To: Subject: 1967 Maris Auction @ $0.99 From: bskp1@aol.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:08:15 -0400 Subject: another cool pic!! From: Shawn Smart this one is dated from 1912 NYC - a boy looking at his baseball cards.... hard to tell if they are definitely baseball but that is what the caption reads. To: wwesmyster2@aol.com CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:15:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] cool pic trading 1971 Topps Sorry behind on e-mails. Pic says the Bronx. 1971. I love it! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:19 AM, ShoelessWes wrote: That's really cool. Where and when are they? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Just stumbled upon this pic of kids trading some black beauties, thought I would ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:35:36 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1970-71 Topps Alcindor tall boy - WAIVER WIRE! From: Jimi Thayer He ain't pretty, but I'm assuming that some of you need a 1970-71 Topps Alcindor for your collection. I'd prefer to send this to someone who's getting close to finishing their set, but let me know if you need it and who knows! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:18:40 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 77 Venezuelan album From: Rick Here's a few pictures of my latest purchase. It has 350 of the 402 stickers. Like the rest it's in rough shape but still excited to have it. Rick ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:47:50 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 77 Venezuelan album [4 Attachments] From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Gorgeous! I am envious! Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2016 2:19 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 77 Venezuelan album [4 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Here's a few pictures of my latest purchase. It has 350 of the 402 stickers. Like the rest it's in rough shape but still excited to have it. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:59:48 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Troubles e-mailing with KENT GOTO From: Jimi Thayer Hey Kent, Seems like there is an e-mail issue, much like I've had with Mark Talbot over the years. I'm going to privately send you a message through Facebook and see if you get it there. Not sure why, but I'm getting your e-mails, but you must not be getting mine. Stay tuned.... Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 15:41:47 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Rittenburg Update From: KEVINM38@aol.com I wish and I think we all wish we can take this away from both you and Gina, but all I can offer is my phone in case you need to talk to someone and all my prayers I pray that thing turn back around and start getting better.. God Bless, ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 21:37:46 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Meet Up From: jdelott@aol.com Got together with Sal Domino and Mark Talbot, the rookie, having only joined OBC in 2000. During 4.5 hours of beer and dinner, much time was devoted to discussing the attached card, which Sal suggested I submit for regrading. He believes should be a 10. And BTW, Mark knocked off 22% of my remaining '55 Bowman set, which is comprised totally of highs, including an umpire; and he threw in a '51 Bowman Sain high. Thanks much. Good time. Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:34:06 -0400 To: jdelott@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet Up [1 Attachment] From: Mark Talbot Hello OBC, Yes it's been OBC day for me. Start off the morning I getting picked up by Rob Gioia in the fire department van along with his captain for a shuttle ride out to Rob Fitts house in the Bronx. After about a half hour chatting with Rob in the back of the van he arrived at Robs house in Bronx. Not nearly enough time to get caught up but it was still great to see him. Rob Fitts spent an hour with me showing off his collection - I got to tell you if you ever get a chance to see Rob's Japanese card collection youhave to take time and savor the experience. We spent some time talking about his new book and somewhere along the way Rob handed me a T205 card formy collection. We took a walk a few blocks away from the house and went to an Irish pub for lunch, Rob insisted on picking up the tab. I thoroughly enjoyed my visit with Rob and look forward to the next time in New York when we can do it again. And then made my way via the Long Island Railroad to Hicksville New York where I met up with Jeff Delott and Sal Domino. We got together about 5PM and spent a number of hours talking life, cards, sports, and anything else that Crossed our minds. Jeff handed me a 64 Topps coin and Sal passed over an on deck cookies Card of Tom Seaver. I didn't get to see the entire Long Island contingent but it certainly was fun with those who could make it. Looking forward to meeting more OBC hobbyist in the coming days. Regards -------- Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 21, 2016, at 9:37 PM, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from jdelott@aol.com included below] > Got together with Sal Domino and Mark Talbot, the rookie, having only joined OBC in 2000. During 4.5 hours of beer and dinner, much time was devoted to discussing the attached card, which Sal suggested I submit for regrading. He believes should be a 10. And BTW, Mark knocked off 22% of my remaining '55 Bowman set, which is comprised totally of highs, including an umpire; and he threw in a '51 Bowman Sain high. Thanks much. Good time. > Jeffrey Delott ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:22:55 +0000 Subject: Re: And now for something completely different... desktop computers From: Taylor Schock Just wanted to mention this one more time. Besides a couple that were already requested, if anyone going to the National might be interested, let me know so I can Tetris these into the car. From: Taylor Schock Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:17 PM To: OBC Ramblings; OBC-DealerScum@yahoogroups.com; OBC National Subject: And now for something completely different... desktop computers available I hope posting this here is OK. I recently came into a number of desktop computers at OBC prices (but not OBC condition) that I can pass along if anyone is interested. OK, they aren't the latest laptops or IPads or all that new-fangled stuff, but they are good machines for the basic usage. I am using one that I've had for 10 years right now to type this up, as opposed to my laptop for work, which has had 2 hard drives crash already. The machines vary in hard disk size (from about 110 GB to 250 GB). I believe all of them are running Windows XP SP3 (what I've seen so far). Some haveMS Office and other software as well, though some have just the basic OS. So there are various configurations and will be priced accordingly, probably in the $20-$40 range, depending. The price is JUST for the desktop machine itself. Sorry, no keyboards or mice included (they were shared), but you can pick these up at goodwill-type stores for a few bucks. Monitors are NOT included either, but I will have afew available separately (they were shared as well). The monitors I have are all flat panel and variable in size too. Probably looking at $15-$30 on these, depending on size/resolution. I'm still working through all of the stuff and checking it out. I'm posting to the National server since I'm driving and can bring any withme (if you want one and are driving too). I can ship them as well, though I'll have to charge shipping cost. While they are definitely not gaming systems, they are good for basic everyday use. The machines will be scanned and virus free and I'll provide a 90-day moneyback warranty on the machines and any monitors. If you have any questions,or might have any interest at all, just let me know. ================= Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:39:18 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: found out on facebook my local card shop gets vintage for a From: John Dahms Was mentioned on facebook by my local cardshop guy last friday. clicked onlink and there was a short video of a bunch of 50's star cards that he recently picked up reason for some joy about this is because it only happensonce every five years around here. was finally able to stop in on Monday and what a treat a private collection from a guy filling a 5000 count box.. 54 thru 60 really cool thing was to look at the cards and notice how beat up the cards were early, (whenhe was young) to the pristine cards from the 60 set. I have been dealing with this guy for over 25 years, so I was prepared thatthe prices on the star cards were gonna be pretty high. and unfortunatelyI was correct. but in a weird turn of fate, the semi star cards were in a decent range so I was able to pick up a nice stack of cards from the 54-58 sets. commons and semi stars. I went back today to talk to him about a package deal on all the really rough cards but he said he had a guy coming in that was possibly gonna buy the whole kit and caboodle. but he wouldlet me know if the deal fell thru because (and I quote him) you (me) are the only guy in town that isn't looking for the pristine cards. that is agood all in all it was a nice treat and I was very appreciative to my friend forremembering me and inviting me in. picked up some cool stuff for a decentprice. a good week. to all of you attending the national, travel safe and have a great time. Iwill be reading of your exploits on the server. stay frosty on this very hot weekend my friends John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 22 Jul 2016 15:08:40 -0700 To: Subject: OBC visitor extrodanaire From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 22 Jul 2016 15:12:34 -0700 To: Subject: forgot to add From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 19:07:56 -0500 Subject: SCD Article on "our" Frank Thomas From: "George Vrechek" The Aug 5, 2016, issue of SCD will be given away free at the National. It includes a story by David Moriah on our Frank Thomas. Thomas mentions the fire that destroyed his collection (1952 to 1992 Topps cards) in 1992 and the generosity of collectors (like OBCers) who helped him rebuild it. He sold what he had a few years ago. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 20:37:16 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Randy Welk needs advice on New Jersey Beaches for the National From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Hi Guys I asked for some help planning my cross country trip and thanks to those who gave me some. Last question: Since I am driving coast to coast I want to make sure I take my wife to a New Jersey Beach that is not too crowded, not full of boardwalks and amusement part stuff and so on. Just a nice beach looking at the ocean. Is there a suggestion for such a thing that is North of Atlantic City? I am looking forward to meeting any of you going to the National. Thanks for any help. Randy Welk ================= Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 22:09:57 -0400 To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 [1 Attachment] From: ShoelessWes Very cool photo Peter. Priceless, thanks! Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:12 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from hoot_owl1@verizon.net included below] > Shawn Smart has sent around some pictures from the early 1970s showing kids with 1971 black beauties...... > From the Mead archives comes this gem from 1969. I am on the right holding 1969 Senator Bob Humphries; my brother Pat is on the left and neighbor Mark Strong is in the middle holding Bo Bolinsky and what appears to be some1967s. There is also a stack of cards behind me--closer to those cool western theme bed spreads. > Ah.....the 1960s... > peter mead ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 00:47:50 -0400 To: rlabs1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] forgot to add From: Mark Talbot Having visited Richards hallowed halls of Phillies and his wife Rosemaries Coca-Cola collection I can attest to their hospitality. Regards ---------- Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2016, at 6:12 PM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > We did exchange the OBC handshake. It was such a pleasure having Mike visit. If any one is ever in the El Paso area please let me know. We do have an extra room. Mike - thanks again. > Richard Labs ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 01:06:36 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet Up From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Doh! Forgot to post a few pics.. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/21/2016 10:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hello OBC, Yes it's been OBC day for me. Start off the morning I getting picked up by Rob Gioia in the fire department van along with his captain for a shuttle ride out to Rob Fitts house in the Bronx. After about a half hour chatting with Rob in the back of the van he arrived at Robs house in Bronx. Not nearly enough time to get caught up but it was still great to see him. Rob Fitts spent an hour with me showing off his collection - I got to tell you if you ever get a chance to see Rob's Japanese card collection you have to take time and savor the experience. We spent some time talking about his new book and somewhere along the way Rob handed me a T205 card for my collection. We took a walk a few blocks away from the house and went to an Irish pub for lunch, Rob insisted on picking up the ta b. I thoroughly enjoyed my visit with Rob and look forward to the next time in New York when we can do it again. And then made my way via the Long Island Railroad to Hicksville New York where I met up with Jeff Delott and Sal Domino. We got together about 5 PM and spent a number of hours talking life, cards, sports, and anything else that Crossed our minds. Jeff handed me a 64 Topps coin and Sal passed over an on deck cookies Card of Tom Seaver. I didn't get to see the entire Long Island contingent but it certainly was fun with those who could make it. Looking forward to meeting more OBC hobbyist in the coming days. Regards -------- Mark Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2016, at 9:37 PM, _jdelott@aol.com_ (mailto:jdelott@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups%20.com) > wrote: Got together with Sal Domino and Mark Talbot, the rookie, having only joined OBC in 2000. During 4.5 hours of beer and dinner, much time was devoted to discussing the attached card, which Sal suggested I submit for regrading. He believes should be a 10. And BTW, Mark knocked off 22% of my remaining '55 Bowman set, which is comprised totally of highs, including an umpire; and he threw in a '51 Bowman Sain high. Thanks much. Good time. Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:22:41 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Wrappers and Schedules From: Nick Covello Hi Everyone:Found a bunch of wrappers please let me know if you could use any of these. ThanksNick Covello 1975 Fleer BB1976 Topps NHL1977 Topps Cloth stickers BB1978 Topps FB1978 Topps BB1979 OPC BB1980 Topps NHL1980 Topps NBA1980 Fleer FB1981 Donruss1981 Fleer FB1981 Fleer BB1981 Topps BB1981 Fleer Star Stickers BB1981 Topps NHL1981 Topps NFL1981 Topps NBA1982 Fleer BB1982 Topps BB1982 Mash1983 Topps FB1988 Fleer NBAJaws 2 Schedules1982 Orioles1982 Phillies spring training1982 Phillies ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:57:36 -0400 To: VCT , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Rough '67T & '71T WAIVER WIRE! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I have a few more extras to offer up today as a WAIVER WIRE! Not much, butI don't need 'em! 1967 Topps: 283 Alley 304 Gagliano 1971 Topps: 63 RBI Leaders 85 Grabarkewitz 124 Gullett 302 Gagliano Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 17:36:34 -0400 Subject: 1968 Arco and 1970 Atlantic Richfield Red Sox waiver and Wants From: "Bob Donaldson" Picked up some neat oddball items at the Flea Market today, The following are available 1968 Atlantic Richfield 8x10 Photos Syd O'Brien Sparky Lyle Russ Gibson Tony Conigliaro I need the following 1968 Arco and 1970 Atlantic Richfield 1968 Atlantic Richfield 8x10 Photos Dalton Jones 1970 Atlantic Richfield Red Sox 8x10 Photos Ray Culp Bob Montgomery Ken Tatum (upgrade to vg/ex, no tears or creases) ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:14:21 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: One last WAIVER WIRE for the night....1970 Topps! From: Jimi Thayer One more WAIVER WIRE for the day! 1970 Topps: #4, 24, 24, 28, 32, 41, 41, 41, 42, 60, 60, 74., 77, 77, 77, 82, 83, 88, 89, 89, 97, 97, 100, 101, 105, 123, 128, 128, 129, 132, 173, 274,277, 277, 277, 284, 284, 284, 284, 284, 284, 288, 295, 295, 295, 297, 303,305, 305, 316, 316, 326, 326, 328, 332, 339, 345, 347, 354, 354, 361, 361,361, 361, 437 Claim away! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 02:03:18 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Dodgers WL From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 22:55:12 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dodgers WL From: Ken M Brian,  There's no numbers, but Geordie Calvert has a page with scans of all the cards on your list at http://www.4roundcorners.com/dodgercollection/topps60s.htm  Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Jul 23, 2016 10:03 PMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Dodgers WL Hi gang, Has anyone already compiled a Topps list of all the Dodgers ? Specifically looking for a checklist with player names and card numbers of all Los Angeles Dodgers from 1960 to 1969, but if your list contains more, I'll take it! I can likely Google this information, but maybe one amongst you has done this already :-) And besides, I cannot repay Google with cardboard thanks LOL! (For anyone thinking I'm jumping ship...Nope! I am a Phillies Phan Phorever! These lists are for a friend!) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:26:03 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Dodgers WL From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:41:56 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Let the stressing begin From: Ken M Hi gang,  I haven't felt like this since probably before finals week in college (before I decided it was too expensive to flunk). Sunday is going to be an all work and no play day for me. In a last ditch effort to get the most money possible for the Nationals, I'm working six hours at my old store and seven more at my new store. I got a letter from the union today with my membership card (same union, but different local). This doesn't make me happy, as I was really hoping to get transferred back soon. Hopefully it's just a formality and I don't have to put up with this commute forever.  Monday is the day that has me all wound up. I have a meeting with the divorce lawyer and my soon to be ex-wife. There is a separation agreement drawn up that, while I think it's fair, my ex (gotta get used to saying that) will probably not like a few things in there. However, if she does sign the agreement...  Tuesday is the pre-trial hearing. The judge could grant our divorce or we could g o to trial to hash out any contested assets (mainly, the house). Or he could tell her to go pound sand regarding the house (you can guess what I'm hoping :-D ) Then, it's five more working days until... VACATION!!  I haven't decided when I'm leaving for AC, but I may start out early morning Monday. I've sat in traffic almost every day this summer going to and from work, so I'd like to avoid doing so on my vacation. I'll get there before check-in time and either find something to do or try to check in early. I plan to do the preparation/packing on Thursday and Saturday next week. (I have two evening shifts this week instead of just the usual one). At some point between the two meetings, I'm escaping to NH. My parents have my two kids and my brother's two kids (from NC). Hopefully they survive Hurricane Grandkids. Thanks for reading and letting me vent a little. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:41:56 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Let the stressing begin From: Ken M Hi gang,  I haven't felt like this since probably before finals week in college (before I decided it was too expensive to flunk). Sunday is going to be an all work and no play day for me. In a last ditch effort to get the most money possible for the Nationals, I'm working six hours at my old store and seven more at my new store. I got a letter from the union today with my membership card (same union, but different local). This doesn't make me happy, as I was really hoping to get transferred back soon. Hopefully it's just a formality and I don't have to put up with this commute forever.  Monday is the day that has me all wound up. I have a meeting with the divorce lawyer and my soon to be ex-wife. There is a separation agreement drawn up that, while I think it's fair, my ex (gotta get used to saying that) will probably not like a few things in there. However, if she does sign the agreement...  Tuesday is the pre-trial hearing. The judge could grant our divorce or we could g o to trial to hash out any contested assets (mainly, the house). Or he could tell her to go pound sand regarding the house (you can guess what I'm hoping :-D ) Then, it's five more working days until... VACATION!!  I haven't decided when I'm leaving for AC, but I may start out early morning Monday. I've sat in traffic almost every day this summer going to and from work, so I'd like to avoid doing so on my vacation. I'll get there before check-in time and either find something to do or try to check in early. I plan to do the preparation/packing on Thursday and Saturday next week. (I have two evening shifts this week instead of just the usual one). At some point between the two meetings, I'm escaping to NH. My parents have my two kids and my brother's two kids (from NC). Hopefully they survive Hurricane Grandkids. Thanks for reading and letting me vent a little. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 06:50:43 -0400 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet Up From: Mark Talbot Good morning OBC Kendall and I are on the road again this morning on our way to South Central Connecticut. Hoping to meet up with some OBC brethren at the Milford Elksclub show. We will be starting our morning off at a restaurant called the pantry in New Haven and expect to be there at about 8 AM if anyone would like to join us. Hope to see some folks there - Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2016, at 1:06 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Doh! Forgot to post a few pics.. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 7/21/2016 10:34:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Hello OBC, > Yes it's been OBC day for me. Start off the morning I getting picked up by Rob Gioia in the fire department van along with his captain for a shuttle ride out to Rob Fitts house in the Bronx. After about a half hour chatting with Rob in the back of the van he arrived at Robs house in Bronx. Not nearly enough time to get caught up but it was still great to see him. > Rob Fitts spent an hour with me showing off his collection - I got to tell you if you ever get a chance to see Rob's Japanese card collection you have to take time and savor the experience. We spent some time talkingabout his new book and somewhere along the way Rob handed me a T205 card for my collection. We took a walk a few blocks away from the house and wentto an Irish pub for lunch, Rob insisted on picking up the ta b. I thoroughly enjoyed my visit with Rob and look forward to the next time in New York when we can do it again. > And then made my way via the Long Island Railroad to Hicksville New York where I met up with Jeff Delott and Sal Domino. We got together about5 PM and spent a number of hours talking life, cards, sports, and anythingelse that Crossed our minds. Jeff handed me a 64 Topps coin and Sal passedover an on deck cookies Card of Tom Seaver. I didn't get to see the entireLong Island contingent but it certainly was fun with those who could make it. Looking forward to meeting more OBC hobbyist in the coming days. > Regards -------- Mark > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 21, 2016, at 9:37 PM, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Got together with Sal Domino and Mark Talbot, the rookie, having only joined OBC in 2000. During 4.5 hours of beer and dinner, much time was devoted to discussing the attached card, which Sal suggested I submit for regrading. He believes should be a 10. And BTW, Mark knocked off 22% of my remaining '55 Bowman set, which is comprised totally of highs, including an umpire; and he threw in a '51 Bowman Sain high. Thanks much. Good time. >> Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 15:44:33 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , "" Subject: Re: Dodgers WL From: familytoad@comcast.net right away!
Thanks for the many replies!
I have what I need thanks to this great group!
My buddy will appreciate this too as he attempts to collect the "new" LA Dodgers cards.
He has practically every Brooklyn card ever made!
OBC Forever,
Brian

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Sent: face"Helvetica">Hi gang,
Has anyone already compiled a Topps list of all the Dodgers ?

Specifically looking for a checklist with player names and card numbers of all Los Angeles Dodgers from 1960 to 1969, but if your list contains more, I'll take it!

I can likely Google this information, but maybe one amongst you has done this already :-)
And besides, I cannot repay Google with cardboard thanks LOL!

(For anyone thinking I'm jumping ship...Nope! I am a Phillies Phan Phorever! These lists are for a friend!)

OBC Forever,
Brian

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================= Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 21:55:36 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1970 Topps Scratch-Offs (White) & Story Booklets WAIVER WIRE! From: Jimi Thayer Another WAIVER WIRE tonight! 1970 Topps Scratch-Offs (WHITE!) Beckert, Bosman, Hegan, Kaline, Osteen, Perez, Stottlemyre 1970 Topps Story Booklets: 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 14 Banks, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 20, 23 LMK what you need! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 08:47:57 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2 great visits From: biggies@aol.com I had the pleasure of meeting WAYNE DELIA this weekend when he was kind enough to come down from Poughkeepsie for a couple of hours. Great stories andsome A little later MARK TALBOT who stirred up all this visiting came by with his cousin Jim. A few hours of great conversation covering almost everything.And oh yeah Mark dropped a couple of 53 Toppers and a Giants Iron on for the type set. Thanks guys, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:21:59 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: An sweet assortment from Morganti! From: Jimi Thayer A sweet assortment of cards arrived from KEN MORGANTI today! A few UV spectaculars, some '79s including Palmer and Sutton, a '69T Piccolo RC, a bunchof hockey help, a '78Whitaker RC, and a few '79T Comics! Whew! Great stuff as always, buddy! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 25 Jul 2016 07:56:37 -0700 To: Subject: Item mislabeled on eBay From: twbilling@sbcglobal.net ================= Date: 25 Jul 2016 09:47:24 -0700 To: Subject: remiss From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 16:12:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1961 through 1975 Topps WAIVER WIRE (w/ subsets) From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Yet another WAIVER WIRE on this blazing hot day! Some of these cards are rollovers from the last few waivers, and some are fresh! LMK what you can use! 1961 Topps #75, 82, 82, 82 1962 Topps #98 1967 Topps #283, 304 1969 Topps Deckle #8 McLain, 22 Staub 1970 Topps Story Booklets #3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12, 18, 20, 20, 23 1971 Topps #63, 85 (red sun), 124, 302 1971 Topps Scratch-Offs (Red) Allen, McCarver, Spencer, Wynn 1975 Topps #25, 26, 37, 59, 75, 89, 91, 95, 102, 102, 107, 116, 127, 132, 151, 154, 161, 167, 171, 173, 178, 226, 234, 240, 261, 269, 270, 287, 290, 290, 316, 317, 317, 327, 342, 343, 353, 411, 432, 444, 446, 459, 474, 480, 480, 488, 495, 496, 496, 502, 598, 603 Jimi Thayer Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:10:09 -0400 To: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] 2 great visits From: Mark Talbot Hello All, As Bob Bannon indicated, at his invitation I made a trip to Danbury Connecticut to visit him at his home. I did my best to send out the call to his many OBC hobbyist is possible to join us. Has Bob mentioned Wayne Delia madethe trip from Poughkeepsie but my arrival was delayed due to some errands I had to run with my daughter and some terrible traffic out of the city of New York. I did miss Wayne as a result but Bob was very gracious host and Ithoroughly enjoyed the evening. Bob Allowed me to invite my cousin Jim who I wanted to see and lived nearby and we spent the evening looking at Bob's collection joy each company and sharing a meal prepared by his lovely wife. Conversation was wide and diverse, leaving at 10 PM when I had to leaveto get back to the city wasn't what I wanted to do we were having a great time. Bob has a wonderful home on Candlewood lake in a beautiful part of Connecticut and if you ever get the invitation to join him at his home you absolutely must take it. My only regret in the whole situation was not being able to schedule my time to meet Wayne as well. Bob and I have been sending cardboard to each other for over a decade and of course cardboard was exchanged on this day as well. Bob handed me a 1919 Zeenuts and a card from what is known as the black set in this case the joker. Wayne also came loaded with cardboard and plopped down four 1940 play balls including Hall of Famer Paul Waner. My handshake or Wayne will have tobe mailed when I returned to Detroit. My daughter is likely to stay in New York for number of years. Side trips like this really made it worth my while specially when my daughter was working. Many thanks to Bob and his wife and of course Wayne for making the afternoon and evening an absolute pleasure. Regards --------- Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:47 AM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Thanks] > I had the pleasure of meeting WAYNE DELIA this weekend when he was kind enough to come down from Poughkeepsie for a couple of hours. Great stories and some yuks. > A little later MARK TALBOT who stirred up all this visiting came by with his cousin Jim. A few hours of great conversation covering almost everything. And oh yeah Mark dropped a couple of 53 Toppers and a Giants Iron on forthe type set. > Thanks guys, Bob Bannon ================= To: Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 09:26:27 -0500 Subject: A Rambling on collecting From: "George Vrechek" I thought I would ramble on this since this gang understands the process. I won a relatively beat-up Marion Motley 1953 Bowman football card on eBay today for $8. What is so notable about that? Actually not much by itself, but I felt good about it. I collected a smattering of early football cards as a kid but they took a back seat to baseball from the same era. I do recall the football ovals with the player's name though for the 1953 cards and that they were the only game in town since Topps wasn't there yet. When I got back into collecting, I figured I would just work on baseball and likely traded away a few of my assorted football cards from 1953. Well you know how it goes. Within a few years I had football cards on my wantlist, but figured somehow they would fly in over the transom, so to speak, and I never dented the sets much by buying lots. OBCers seemed a lot like me, without too many extra older football cards either. As you age, you figure you better get going. While I had the 1953 Bowmans on my want list for probably 30 years, I hadn't made much progress at all as of 5 years ago when I still needed most of the set. I started chipping away at the list by buying cards when I came across reasonably priced cards at shows. I found the cards were not nearly as plentiful as baseball cards from the same era and that prices were no bargain. However, I kept at it and about 3 years ago got down to needing about half of the set still. In the last few years, I got more focused, especially by establishing annual goals for picking up cards in various sets. I got down to 3 cards - Motley, Gifford and Sewell. I figured I can find Sewell for a few dollars eventually. Motley is really an undervalued pioneer and I was pleased to pick up his card even with a few condition problems. Frank Gifford though will probably join my list of cards with "silly prices" that will remain too expensive for my tastes. But that's OK. I can go on to making some progress on those 1952 Bowman football sets, and then there are the 1962 and 1963 Fleer football sets, and.the process continues. Thanks, gang, for your help in what has been a process. George Vrechek ================= Date: 26 Jul 2016 08:14:13 -0700 To: Subject: Topps Man on the Moon From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 15:35:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Man on the Moon From: Taylor Schock From memory. NOT A! The initial release of 55 were numbered #A (1-35?) or #B (36-55?), for the 2 different puzzle backs. If I understand your options correctly, it would be C. The same pictures were used for 1-55 and new pics for 56-99. The second issue (1-99) did NOT contain the A or B letter extension. Also to keep in mind, that there was a "Made in Canada" version (OPC?) thatis printed on the back as well, I believe for the second issue ONLY (1-99), but again, from memory. Also I think there was an English A,B,&C (the company) issue, but the cardswould be smaller in size. There might be a couple variations, but couldn't say off the top of my head. Me, being me, has a want list for the 55 AND the 99 set, and may actually put a want list for the Canada version as well (since I have some of those cards). Man on the Moon (1969 Topps 55) (EX) (numbers have 'A' or 'B' with them) - 38 Man on the Moon (1969 Topps 99) (EX) (cards numbered x of 99) - 3 4 7 10 12 13 14 15 16 20 31 33 35 36 37 38 39 43 45 46 48 54 55 56 57 63 65 68 69 70 72 74 75 76 80 81 82 84 90 92 93 95 96 97 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 11:14 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Man on the Moon So I recently bought a lot of these which were 5 cards short, (50/55). I went to Comc.com to complete the missing five cards. Set of 55 is complete. From what I can gather, these were made in two installements. The first being in 1968 and a following set in 1970. I know the 1968 set goes from 1-55 (with a couple variations or errors), and the 1970 set goes up to 99. What I don't know is about the 1970 set. I've heard it called an extension.The way I look at it, there are three possibilities for this set. Can someone clarify which one holds true? A) 1970 starts at #56 and continues to #99 and was only issued this way with cards #1-55 not issued again. B) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with new cards for numbers 1-55 being issued in 1970 C) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with the same cards at numbers 1 through 55 from 1968 being issued again as well as #s 56-99. Jay Tysver ================= To: Taylor Schock , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:56:53 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Man on the Moon From: JAY TYSVER Thank you Taylor. That tells me that I need a 1-99 checklist for the 1970 cards. Jay Tysver To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; JTysver1@msn.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 15:35:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Man on the Moon From memory. NOT A! The initial release of 55 were numbered #A (1-35?) or #B (36-55?), for the 2 different puzzle backs. If I understand your options correctly, it would be C. The same pictures were used for 1-55 and new pics for 56-99. The second issue (1-99) did NOT contain the A or B letter extension. Also to keep in mind, that there was a "Made in Canada" version (OPC?) thatis printed on the back as well, I believe for the second issue ONLY (1-99), but again, from memory. Also I think there was an English A,B,&C (the company) issue, but the cardswould be smaller in size. There might be a couple variations, but couldn't say off the top of my head. Me, being me, has a want list for the 55 AND the 99 set, and may actually put a want list for the Canada version as well (since I have some of those cards). Man on the Moon (1969 Topps 55) (EX) (numbers have 'A' or 'B' with them) - 38 Man on the Moon (1969 Topps 99) (EX) (cards numbered x of 99) - 3 4 7 10 12 13 14 15 16 20 31 33 35 36 37 38 39 43 45 46 48 54 55 56 57 63 65 68 69 70 72 74 75 76 80 8182 84 90 92 93 95 96 97 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 11:14 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Man on the Moon So I recently bought a lot of these which were 5 cards short, (50/55). I went to Comc.com to complete the missing five cards. Set of 55 is complete. From what I can gather, these were made in two installements. The first being in 1968 and a following set in 1970. I know the 1968 set goes from 1-55 (with a couple variations or errors), and the 1970 set goes up to 99. What I don't know is about the 1970 set. I've heard it called an extension.The way I look at it, there are three possibilities for this set. Can someone clarify which one holds true? A) 1970 starts at #56 and continues to #99 and was only issued this way with cards #1-55 not issued again. B) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with new cards for numbers 1-55 being issued in 1970 C) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with the same cards at numbers 1 through 55 from 1968 being issued again as well as #s 56-99. Jay Tysver ================= Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 12:30:13 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Topps Man on the Moon From: LAWRENCE TIPTON C) is correct. From the =E2=9CSport Americana=E2=9D Price Guide: The Man on the Moon set was issued twice. The early set is numbered 1A to 35A and 36B to 55B. The set was extended (later in 1969 and early 1970) by 44 cards numbered No. 56 of 99 cards puzzle C to No. 99 of 99 cards puzzle C. So a complete collection should include cards: 1A through 35A (original release) 36B through 55B (original release) No. 1 of 99 cards puzzle A through No. 35 of 99 cards puzzle A (1970 re-issue) No. 36 of 99 cards puzzle B through No. 55 of 99 cards puzzle B (1970 re-issue) No. 56 of 99 cards puzzle C through No. 99 of 99 cards puzzle C (1970 extended 1. A cards from original release and the 1970 A puzzle re-issue should bothform the same puzzle on the back 2. B cards from the original release and the 1970 B puzzle re-issue should both form the same puzzle on the back. 3. Trying to form a 44 card C puzzle from the extended release is extremelydifficult because of irregularities, transposed numbers, different backs etc. Robert Mruczek published an article on these cards in the =E2=9CWrapper=E2=9D Magazine #299. WHAT YOU DONT SUBSCRIBE TO THE =E2=9CWRAPPER=E2=9D MAGAZINE??????????? It=E2=99s an old school non-sports magazine and TOTAL FUN! Google it or go to www.thewrappermagazine.com and subscribe! A sample copy is only $2.50 This article was discussed on the non sports side of Net54 here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/526604/thread/1252350135/1/Man+on+the+Moon+-+Topps+-+1960s > Jay said >A) 1970 starts at #56 and continues to #99 and was only issued this way with cards #1-55 not issued again. >B) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with new cards for numbers 1-55 being issued in 1970 >C) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with the same cards at numbers 1through 55 from 1968 being issued again as well as #s 56-99. ================= Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 14:45:41 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Card show at "The Villages" coming in September From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Last March I attended this show and posted a report. Someone messaged me and said their Dad retired there. And they might plan a visit around the nextshow. But I forgot who it was! The next show is Sept 10th, email me and I=E2=99ll forward you the flyer I got. ================= To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:51:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card show at "The Villages" coming in September From: Shawn Smart That was me :) Feel free to send my way! They put me on the e-mail list as well. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 26, 2016, at 2:45 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Last March I attended this show and posted a report. Someone messaged me and said their Dad retired there. And they might plan a visit around the nextshow. But I forgot who it was! The next show is Sept 10th, email me and I'll forward you the flyer I got. ================= Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:21:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Swap session info and ramble From: Ken M Hi gang,  I decided to put this on the Ramblings server instead of the National one in case someone decides to stop in at the spur of the moment... and I'm overdue for some rambling. :-)  The National starts in only eight short days. The swap session has been tentatively scheduled (and by that, I mean it's pretty much a done deal) to be held in the breakfast area of Sal's hotel. From the pictures on the hotel website, the place looks spacious enough to hold two or three dozen guys each bringing a monster box of cards - and since everyone is probably NOT bringing a monster box to the swap, it should do fine. There's five booths on one side, nine small tables in the middle (four seats each) and eight stools on the other side. Plus there's tables for soda and food apart from the seating area. Here's the details:Comfort Inn AC North (there's 3 Comfort Inns in the area)539 Absecon Blvd., US 30, Absecon, New Jersey 08201 Time: about 7:00 PM (show lets out at 6:00) Sat. Aug. 6, 2016Please advise if you have special dietary needs (vegan, sugar free soda, gluten free, etc.) or want to suggest your favorite pizza topping(s) (buffalo chicken, mushroom, ham and pineapple, etc.) or soda (Sprite, root beer, Mountain Dew, etc.) and we'll try to accomodate as many as we can. The cost of the room and pizza should be partially (or fully) covered by the badge money collected, so please hit up Sal or myself with that (10 bucks/day, max 30). We've managed to purchase 2 VIP badges, each with a parking pass, plus 3 dealer badges, compliments of Mike McCann. So, be sure to stop by his table (1856) and at least say thanks. He will probably have a few boxes of our favorite stuff (beat up and cheap) while you're there and he'll give you a good deal on top of that (mention you're in OBC or be wearing your OBC swag), so please spend a few coins at his table.  Sal and I both have large vehicles with a parking pass. I'll likely be driving Wes and Jerry, so I'll have room for a couple more (or four more if a couple people don't mind rolling around in back.) The VIP badges we got were $50 more with the free parking pass, so a couple bucks per person per day would help. It'll all go towards the cost of the badges and the swap room/food. Just going by the number of attendees and how many show days they're going, we should have enough money to pay for the badges, room, and food. I don't anticipate anything more, but if we are short, it will be like $5/head at the swap. PLMK if you're bringing someone to the swap that isn't on Sal's roster, so we don't order an insane amount of pizza or not enough.  I'm at 248 E White Horse PikeGalloway, NJ. We'll try to coordinate some kind of car pooling scenario as the show unfolds.   Everything has pretty much fallen into place for Atlantic City. Everything here in Everett has pretty much fallen into place as well... or at least I'm hopeful. The conference with my ex on Monday was uneventful. She agreed with everything in the separation agreement, EXCEPT the house. We were hoping to get some insight from the judge today on the issue, but the ex filed for yet another continuance and was turned down, as this case was filed in Feb. 2015 and has been continued a few times already. That was all the judge spoke about however. We have a status meeting scheduled for next month, while the ex seeks legal counsel (that's why she motioned for the continuance). The house has been in my family for sixty years and I bought it well before getting married. It's in my name only (along with the second mortgage, which now indebts me more than when I originally bought the house in 2005). Hopefully, her attorney will tell her it's not worth the fight and the agreement is fair and reasonable... and doesn't try to generate fees for what we think is a losing battle. It should all be sorted out by this time next month.  Sooo, vacation is s et up, I've got money in the bank to pay for it and an able car to take me there. Just need to get through these next five straight days of work. Piece of cake - no worries. Thanks for reading. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:43:10 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Man on the Moon From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en 1970 starts at 1-99. They are parallel. 1970 says 1 of 99, 2 of 99, etc on the back, easy way to distinguish. In a message dated 7/26/2016 11:14:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: So I recently bought a lot of these which were 5 cards short, (50/55). I went to Comc.com to complete the missing five cards. Set of 55 is complete. From what I can gather, these were made in two installements. The first being in 1968 and a following set in 1970. I know the 1968 set goes from 1-55 (with a couple variations or errors), and the 1970 set goes up to 99. What I don't know is about the 1970 set. I've heard it called an extension. The way I look at it, there are three possibilities for this set. someone clarify which one holds true? A) 1970 starts at #56 and continues to #99 and was only issued this way with cards #1-55 not issued again. B) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with new cards for numbers 1-55 being issued in 1970 C) 1970 starts at #1 and continues to #99 with the same cards at numbers 1 through 55 from 1968 being issued again as well as #s 56-99. Jay Tysver ================= Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 18:13:13 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Venezuelan "run" From: Rick Well I crunched some numbers for the amount of cards /stickers from 59-77 and I get 4113 without variations. My break down is 1959-1 of 196 1960-18 of 198 1962-57 of 198 1964-314 of 370 1966-346 of 370 1967-114 of 338 1968-111 of 370 1970-288 of 300 1972-0 of 242 1972/73-244 of 249 1973-106 of 275 1974-251 of 275 1976-17 of 330 1977-354 of 402 for a total of 2221. Looks like I'm over the half way point now it's been fun working on something new. Not many of you interested in these but thought I would share my progress. Now to try to find the last 1892. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 01:50:36 +0000 To: Rick , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelan "run" From: Matthew Glidden That's amazing progress, Rick! Can't imagine many collectors get even 20 Venezuelans, let alone 2000+. On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:13 PM Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Well I crunched some numbers for the amount of cards /stickers from 59-77 > and I get 4113 without variations. My break down is > 1959-1 of 196 > 1960-18 of 198 > 1962-57 of 198 > 1964-314 of 370 > 1966-346 of 370 > 1967-114 of 338 > 1968-111 of 370 > 1970-288 of 300 > 1972-0 of 242 > 1972/73-244 of 249 > 1973-106 of 275 > 1974-251 of 275 > 1976-17 of 330 > 1977-354 of 402 for a total of 2221. > Looks like I'm over the half way point now it's been fun working on > something new. Not many of you interested in these but thought I would > share my progress. Now to try to find the last 1892. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:39:10 -0500 To: Ken M , , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Swap session info and ramble From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 01:24:35 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.9 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok Kids, Second to last update for filling in the blanks. Still have a few holes to fill, so get me any missing info or if your plans have changed and decided to join us. Everything Ken posted earlier is spot on, so things are really falling into place. Texted with Mike McCann today and he's as excited as ever to see the sea of OBC garb! He said he has a few "Mendoza" boxes for us to go through. Key here-- these boxes are just for OBC, so you gotta tell him you are with us and he will pull them out from under the table. Ken and myself will be picking up the badges he graciously held for us on Tuesday. Make sure you all have Ken and mine phone numbers. You are going to need them to get into the show, as one of us will be the shuttle bus. The swap area looks pretty nice from the pictures, I think we did well there, but we will finalize it when we see it. Still looking for a restaurant for our Thursday night dinner. Anyone know of a good place that won't take away from card money? Only bad news is one that sucks for me. I try to make sure I have an envelope for every OBCer that comes to the National (it's just my own thing, don't feel you have to do the same thing, just be here and enjoy all the cardboard talk and knowledge that goes around). COMC is not cooperating with a bunch of cards I got for about half of you. So if they don't get here Monday, You'll still get the OBC special I set up for everyone and a picture of the card that will be sent to you to take off your list, if it doesn't get here in time. My fingers are still crossed. I would think 2 weeks plus would be more than enough time :-(. Also, I am looking to buy some sheets from Greg Tatich (Mike's kinda partner). I am getting a box of 9 pocket. Let me know if anyone wants to split some boxes of 8, 4, 2 pocket sheets. Still trying to find some time to put together the favored dealer list that Steve always did such a great job at. For you first timers, make sure you have fun. We will help you out along the way. Anyone wishing the National started tomorrow? Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Chelsea N Th-Fr Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Rob Fitts N Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North Y Th-Su Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Ron Hoehne 860-751-9337 Y F-M Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's Y F-Su Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Sa Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Y F-Su Steve Sankner Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 ? Y Fr-Sa Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Y Sat Randy Welk 599-392-1733 Y Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Chelsea Y W-Su Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "OBC-National@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 13:14:12 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 1.9 From: Taylor Schock ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:04:11 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, VCT , Subject: Completed my 1st ever hockey set today! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I know this is a joke of set to you hockey collectors, but I don't care....I'm stoked! I just completed my first ever hockey set, the 1978-79 Topps set....my birth year to boot! Thanks to all that helped in the journey. A couple years ago I would have scoffed at the idea of putting a hockey set together, and now I'm even getting close on a couple others! So, just for fun, I'll go ahead and list the two I'm getting close on to see if anyone has any: 1970-71 Topps 14 more to go out of 132 89.4% complete LAST UPDATED: 10/2/2015 thanks to JAKE ELWELL for the Howe! 1 Cheevers, 3 Orr, 7 Cashman RC, 11 Esposito, 22 Mahovlich, 40 Worsley, 49 Vachon, 51 Savard, 55 Beliveau, 59 Horton, 63 Gilbert, 68 Giacomin, 78 Parent, 131 Perreault 1979-80 Topps 34 more to go out of 264 87.1% complete LAST UPDATED: 9/22/2015 thanks to JAY TYSVER for 6 hits! 1, 3, 6, 18 Gretzky RC, 23, 42, 46, 48, 70, 80, 84, 86, 90, 92, 126, 132, 152, 153, 155, 161, 175 Howe, 185 Hull, 195, 213, 215, 220, 223, 230 Bossy AS2, 233, 237 CL, 247, 259, 260, 261 CL Neither of these sets has been hit since 2015, so it'd be great to get a few hits again. I should add that I don't think I have a single vintage hockey card in my dupes box, so I'd have to trade from another sport. Thanks for taking a look! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:24:46 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: To those going to the national...a favor From: Ed Hutchinson Hey all of you national attendees. I won't be there this year, in fact I'm driving home from my honeymoon as I type this. Don't fret, my wife is actually driving. I need a Jim Brown rookie to finish my 58 topps fb set. The ones online are too expensive, I'm after a low grade one. If, and this is a big if, someone finds a low grade copy for 50 to 75 bucks, I would happily PayPal you the money right then for it If you find one and are willing to get it for me, please text me at 440 570 Thanks and have a great time everyone! Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 17:53:25 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Huggins & Scott From: Andy Huntoon Hey my friends Did any of you get an email from Huggins & Scott informing you that they had to reset everyone's passwords and you have to go change it to something new? Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 19:03:57 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott From: Andy Huntoon Thanks guys. It looks legit and I would never click a link that's in an email either. I always go to the site directly and login there. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 27, 2016, at 6:59 PM, familytoad@comcast.net wrote: > I totally agree with that...go directly to the website. ..check the URL as well to see if it is a re-direct. > Also, I replied to a thread on Net54 to have H&S verify if their site is up, since I wasn't able to access it when I tried. > OBC FOREVER, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Andy Huntoon, OBC Ramblings > Sent: July 27, 2016 at 3:40 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott > I did not. And regardless of Brian's comment that it seems legit, I strongly advise anyone NOT to click any links in an email in order to log into a website or change a password. That's how hackers get you!! If you really want to log into a website (to change your password or otherwise), I strongly recommend that you go directly to the website and NOT thru a link contained in an email. > Mike Mackie > From: "Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:53 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott > Hey my friends > Did any of you get an email from Huggins & Scott informing you that they had to reset everyone's passwords and you have to go change it to somethingnew? > Thanks, > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" , Andy Huntoon Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:07:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott From: Taylor Schock Rule of thumb. If they address you by your first and last name, it is probably legit. But I would still go to the site outside of an email link anyway. That said... it's not like MY name is that difficult to figure out from my email address though. LOL From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:03 PM To: familytoad@comcast.net Cc: OBC Ramblings; Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott Thanks guys. It looks legit and I would never click a link that's in an email either. I always go to the site directly and login there. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 27, 2016, at 6:59 PM, familytoad@comcast.net I totally agree with that...go directly to the website. ..check the URL as well to see if it is a re-direct. Also, I replied to a thread on Net54 to have H&S verify if their site is up, since I wasn't able to access it when I tried. OBC FOREVER, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Andy Huntoon, OBC Ramblings Sent: July 27, 2016 at 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott I did not. And regardless of Brian's comment that it seems legit, I strongly advise anyone NOT to click any links in an email in order to log into a website or change a password. That's how hackers get you!! If you really want to log into a website (to change your password or otherwise), I strongly recommend that you go directly to the website and NOT thru a link contained in an email. Mike Mackie From: "Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: OBC Ramblings > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:53 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Huggins & Scott Hey my friends Did any of you get an email from Huggins & Scott informing you that they had to reset everyone's passwords and you have to go change it to something new? Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 27 Jul 2016 19:30:13 -0700 To: Subject: Waiver- 1963 Topps Hi #s From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: 27 Jul 2016 19:52:58 -0700 To: Subject: They're gone. From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 23:07:28 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Rittenberg From: Steve Rittenberg [This message has been approved by the OBC-AC] My family has put together two fundraising efforts to help defray the cost of treatment and living expenses. Almost no one in OBC knows about this aspect of the situation because I felt that the AC needed to review and vote first. Mike Rich would like to discuss with people at the swap on August 6 so my timetable has been accelerated. I recused myself from a vote on this. (1) The first effort is the sale of necklaces (pic attached). It's a silver necklace with hope on it. E is a cancer ribbon. Price is $40 plus $5 shipping. About 100 available. Paypal payments will go to a business account I created. Checks to a business account created for this effort. I will try to send cards with each purchase. No checks cashed until necklaces received. If you'd like to send a check, let me know and I will provide my Houston mailing address. (2) Tax deductible cash donations to a bone marrow foundation fund earmarked for us. I receive funds based on submission of receipts. URL is https://onetoonefunds.crowdsterapp.com/ginarittenberg Expenses. $1200 / month rent. $6,000 in medical expenses (at least) Possibly $12,000-$16,000 for air ambulance if there is no insurance reimbursement. And we may eventually need someone to watch her at night. I prefer not to but it may be a way to cope with nighttime anxiety because she cannot talk yet. I don't expect to raise all of this money, via Obc or elsewhere, but I want people to understand the I could eventually get organized and sell of my Dealer Scum cards or ask someone to do so on my behalf since I suck at mailing but the sale of necklaces and cash contributions are the efforts in place at the moment. Someone suggested an OBC auction on my behalf. My mind is not in a good place and so I said I could not accept that level of help right now. Maybe after I sell off my Dealer Scum binder and most of my dupes. Thank you. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 21:47:22 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Comc From: Rick I have bought from them a couple of times a long time ago but only real cheap cards so I had less of a problem giving them money first then buying a bunch of $1 cards. The question is I have seen some higher dollar cards thatI would like to make an offer on but refuse to give them say $100 to offeron two $50 cards to have them rejected then have to pay to get my money back. In the past I have called them directly to see if there is another roadto go down they said no. Do you guys feel comfortable giving them money that you then don't spend on those cards now do you ask for your money back and take the lost or just say I'll buy something else even if it wasn't yourfirst choice? I just feel their way of doing business is so wrong I just refuse to give them my business. I'm I missing something so I shouldn't be so sour? Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 02:50:18 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I've never had a loss with them..I usually plan out my purchases and add 10 bucks here and there. When I get a large enough amount of cards (I have had them hold for up to 2 months), I ask for a shipment. I usually have a buck or two left in their bank at most when I'm done. If its more, I ask for the refund (has to be within 30 days or just keep the cash in their "bank"). Refunds process in about a week, never had an issue. Whatever I had left over is what I got refunded. Always got the cards I ordered and you get to know which sellers will "work with you". My watch list is pretty large, and my mood changes on what I want to buy. Only issue I ever had was with JoelShitShow, which many have had. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/28/2016 12:47:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I have bought from them a couple of times a long time ago but only real cheap cards so I had less of a problem giving them money first then buying a bunch of $1 cards. The question is I have seen some higher dollar cards that I would like to make an offer on but refuse to give them say $100 to offer on two $50 cards to have them rejected then have to pay to get my money back. In the past I have called them directly to see if there is another road to go down they said no. Do you guys feel comfortable giving them money that you then don't spend on those cards now do you ask for your money back and take the lost or just say I'll buy something else even if it wasn't your first choice? I just feel their way of doing business is so wrong I just refuse to give them my business. I'm I missing something so I shouldn't be so sour? Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:45:27 -0500 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: Jay Tysver I don't deposit money into Comc to buy. I use Paypal to pay. Also, if you are on Paypal, you can use a debit or creeicard to pay with Comc. Jay Tysver > On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I have bought from them a couple of times a long time ago but only real cheap cards so I had less of a problem giving them money first then buying abunch of $1 cards. The question is I have seen some higher dollar cards that I would like to make an offer on but refuse to give them say $100 to offer on two $50 cards to have them rejected then have to pay to get my money back. In the past I have called them directly to see if there is another road to go down they said no. Do you guys feel comfortable giving them money that you then don't spend on those cards now do you ask for your money backand take the lost or just say I'll buy something else even if it wasn't your first choice? I just feel their way of doing business is so wrong I justrefuse to give them my business. I'm I missing something so I shouldn't beso sour? Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 07:08:57 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Comc From: LAWRENCE TIPTON It appears you have to have a certain amount of =E2=9Cstore credit=E2=9D before you can make offers there. I think this is correct. At one time I had $10 sitting there in store credit and wanted to cash it out, but there is a bit of a penalty to cash out. I didn=E2=99t like the idea that mymoney was just sitting there and I couldn=E2=99t access it. So I took out my money and paid the penalty. Now for some reason I have $5 in store credit sitting there I think I was awarded that? I still buy cards on Comc, but just pay the listed price. I just don=E2=99t like the way the store credit is set up. It=E2=99s my only gripe about Comc, because their platform for buying cards is the best platform out there including eBay. And my orders always arrive correct as ordered. A newconcept being able to see the backs of cards? LOL! I think they just raised their shipping charges a little bit too? And of course they are in =E2=9Ccahoots=E2=9D with eBay right now. I don=E2=99t know what that is all about. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 10:14:03 -0400 To: Jay Tysver Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: "Thomas W. Billing" I have bought a lot of cards on COMC. I do deposit money there via PayPal so that I can bid. Many sellers will accept my bids whiles others counter it less than the list price, and still others do not accept bidding. I can tell you that Deans Cards will not accept any bids, even 1 cent belowthe list. They also have the exact same card on eBay and their own site as one time I bought a card and got a different one that was not what was shown as a snafu made the card MIA at shipping time. Deans did refund my money and let me keep the card though. There are a few sellers that do not accept bids in addition. The middle ground sellers include =E2=9Cvintage card girl=E2=9D who accepts a lower bid but then ALWAYS counters it and likes to go back and forth until one of us blinks. Most who show a minimum bid will actually accept that bid but occasionally some will counter it. The real PITA is JoelShitShow who has a price listed and then, after you bid a little under it, will decline the bid and immediately jack up the list price. COMC and I went round and round about the ethics of this as they maintain that it is his right to do this. I told them it is the same thing as the gas dealers who tripled their prices on 9/11 because they knew peoplewere scared and would pay anything to fill up. This is different in that we have a hobby but the principle is still the same. Now if I see a card Iwant that this joker has, I just buy right away to avoid the hassle but I do try to avoid his stuff if at all possible I have seen dialog from members before about him. He is a system analyst for eBay and knows how to play the games. This is sad in what is supposed to be a hobby. Tom Billing > On Jul 28, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Jay Tysver JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't deposit money into Comc to buy. I use Paypal to pay. Also, if youare on Paypal, you can use a debit or creeicard to pay with Comc. > Jay Tysver > On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> I have bought from them a couple of times a long time ago but only real cheap cards so I had less of a problem giving them money first then buying a bunch of $1 cards. The question is I have seen some higher dollar cards that I would like to make an offer on but refuse to give them say $100 to offer on two $50 cards to have them rejected then have to pay to get my moneyback. In the past I have called them directly to see if there is another road to go down they said no. Do you guys feel comfortable giving them moneythat you then don't spend on those cards now do you ask for your money back and take the lost or just say I'll buy something else even if it wasn't your first choice? I just feel their way of doing business is so wrong I just refuse to give them my business. I'm I missing something so I shouldn't be so sour? Rick >> Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-NATIONAL@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 21:24:23 +0000 Subject: 8 pocket pages From: richard dingman ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 17:54:07 -0400 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: Andy Huntoon That's funny that he works for eBay but sells his cards on comc. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:14 AM, 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net[OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I have bought a lot of cards on COMC. I do deposit money there via PayPal so that I can bid. Many sellers will accept my bids whiles others counter it less than the list price, and still others do not accept bidding. > I can tell you that Deans Cards will not accept any bids, even 1 cent below the list. They also have the exact same card on eBay and their own siteas one time I bought a card and got a different one that was not what was shown as a snafu made the card MIA at shipping time. Deans did refund my money and let me keep the card though. There are a few sellers that do not accept bids in addition. > The middle ground sellers include =E2=9Cvintage card girl=E2=9D whoaccepts a lower bid but then ALWAYS counters it and likes to go back and forth until one of us blinks. Most who show a minimum bid will actually accept that bid but occasionally some will counter it. > The real PITA is JoelShitShow who has a price listed and then, after you bid a little under it, will decline the bid and immediately jack up the list price. COMC and I went round and round about the ethics of this as they maintain that it is his right to do this. I told them it is the same thingas the gas dealers who tripled their prices on 9/11 because they knew people were scared and would pay anything to fill up. This is different in that we have a hobby but the principle is still the same. Now if I see a cardI want that this joker has, I just buy right away to avoid the hassle but I do try to avoid his stuff if at all possible I have seen dialog from members before about him. He is a system analyst for eBay and knows how to play the games. This is sad in what is supposed to be a hobby. > Tom Billing >> On Jul 28, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Jay Tysver JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I don't deposit money into Comc to buy. I use Paypal to pay. Also, if you are on Paypal, you can use a debit or creeicard to pay with Comc. >> Jay Tysver >>> On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> I have bought from them a couple of times a long time ago but only realcheap cards so I had less of a problem giving them money first then buyinga bunch of $1 cards. The question is I have seen some higher dollar cards that I would like to make an offer on but refuse to give them say $100 to offer on two $50 cards to have them rejected then have to pay to get my money back. In the past I have called them directly to see if there is another road to go down they said no. Do you guys feel comfortable giving them money that you then don't spend on those cards now do you ask for your money back and take the lost or just say I'll buy something else even if it wasn't your first choice? I just feel their way of doing business is so wrong I just refuse to give them my business. I'm I missing something so I shouldn't be so sour? Rick >>> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 21:08:27 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I believe that is pretty much the issue. If you want a refund, make sure it's within 30 days. I never have more than a couple bucks left over in store credit. I also use pay pal to fill up my bank. The best part of COMC is the ability to have a "watch" list. I stack that up, then I decide what cards I actually want to grab at that time. I ALWAYS shoot for a lower price. First time I put in some ridiculous number (like under 50%). This will allow me to see the "lowest" acceptable bid, then I make that offer. Some are really good about accepting. Some will penny and nickle you to death, but its the game. When I have stuff on my watch list, you can "add all from seller" and make an overall bid for everything. Quantity counts for some sellers. Shipping has gone up to 3.99. BUT I tend to hold cards that I bought for a while to minimize the postage pain. AND make sure you go to their booth at the National. Last year they gave out scratch off cards with all different amounts of store credit or free shipping. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/28/2016 3:59:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I just re-read the store credit terms, and rick's need may be covered. it says: Buyers Note: Buyers can receive a 100% refund of their store credit if a cash-out request is made within 30 days of purchasing store credit. http://www.comc.com/cashout.aspx so it does appear that if you want to put a higher amount in your account for a special purchase or two, you can get full refund if done quickly. thanks, mark z From: mark zentkovich To: Thomas W. Billing ; Jay Tysver Cc: Rick ; "OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc I buy something every week on comc mostly cards between .50 and 10.00 I have never seen the need to cash out since I can always find more cards. I can see rick's concern if you are putting larger amounts into your account that you only are af ter something more rare. comc does now have some (or all not sure how much) of their inventory listed on ebay. If you see something listed on ebay in comc store, you can buy from ebay, and pay immediately through paypal (with 3.00 ship cost). But I don't think best offer is a function available for their items on ebay. I guess that will be an advantage for comc (and the sellers) to get more eyeballs from folks that do not have a comc account and use ebay for larger percentages of their purchases... thanks, mark zentkovich On Jul 27, 2016, at 11:47 PM, Rick _rick.lyons22@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I have bought from them a couple of times a long time ago but only real cheap cards so I had less of a problem giving them money first then buyinga bunch of $1 cards. The question is I have seen some higher dollar cards that I would like to make an offer on but refuse to give them say $100 to offer on two $50 cards to have them rejected then have to pay to get my money back. In the past I have called them directly to see if there is another road to go down they said no. Do you guys feel comfortable giving them m oney that you then don't spend on those cards now do you ask for your money back and take the lost or just say I'll buy something else even if it wasn't your first choice? I just feel their way of doing business is so wrong I just refuse to give them my business. I'm I missing something so I shouldn't be so sour? Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 22:16:59 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1974 Topps team waiver wire From: Rob Bessette Anyone need some 1974 Topps team cards? Not the base set ones, the red border ones with the signatures. I have these up for grabs... Atlanta Braves Cincinnati Reds Los Angeles Dodgers San Diego Padres Texas Rangers ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 22:44:25 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Topps team waiver wire From: Ken M Rob,  Fun fact #1: The 1974 red (and 1973 blue) team checklists all come with one or two asterisks in the copyright line on the back. Fun fact #2: lots of guys in OBC collect both versions and will be bombarding you to please specify which * version ** you have :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Thu, Jul 28, 2016 10:17 PMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Topps team waiver wire ================= Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:04:35 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Topps team waiver wire From: Rob Bessette Thanks for bringing up that point! The cards are in about G shape. Wrinkles, but no heavy creases. No marks onthe Rangers has one asterisk. The others all have two. > On Jul 28, 2016, at 10:44 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Rob, > Fun fact #1: The 1974 red (and 1973 blue) team checklists all come withone or two asterisks in the copyright line on the back. > Fun fact #2: lots of guys in OBC collect both versions and will be bombarding you to please specify which * version ** you have :-) > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Thu, Jul 28, 2016 10:17 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1974 Topps team waiver wire > Anyone need some 1974 Topps team cards? Not the base set ones, the red border ones with the > signatures. I have these up for grabs...Atlanta BravesCincinnati RedsLosAngeles DodgersSan Diego Padres Texas Rangers------------------------------------Posted by: Rob Bessette ------------------------------------The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message.Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted &encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier)is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html------------------------------------Yahoo ================= Date: 28 Jul 2016 20:48:44 -0700 To: Subject: Mike Rich trip From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 08:38:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Comc From: "George Vrechek" Thanks, Sal, for the info on the "watch" list. I was unaware of it. I do like the consistency of photos on COMC and being able to zoom in on fronts and backs for those of us into variations and printing differences. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 10:28:29 -0400 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: "Thomas W. Billing" I=E2=99ve done a LOT of purchases with COMC and was not aware of a =E2=9Cwatch list=E2=9D. Can someone lead me to the steps to do this? Tom Billing > On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:38 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thanks, Sal, for the info on the =E2=9Cwatch=E2=9D list. I was unaware of it. > I do like the consistency of photos on COMC and being able to zoom in on fronts and backs for those of us into variations and printing differences. > George Vrechek ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:52:53 -0500 Subject: Griffey and Piazza in the Hall From: Yaz Warning! This may be a 'Morganti style' ramble, in length anyway. I got home a couple of days ago from a long drive to Cooperstown, then back by way of Cleveland where we stopped for a night. Many things needed done when I got home and I just now finished reading 213 OBC emails and about 100 or so others on my other addresses. First thing I need to say to Steve is how sorry I am about what has transpired in your wife's situation. We can only hope and pray there is a better outcome than the present prognosis. You already know of course, that you have plenty of friends here with which to console. I thank Aaron Shirley for the cool OBC shirts that arrived just in time for our trip to Cooperstown. They didn't quite have the desired effect I wanted in Cooperstown unfortunately. We wore them into the VFW where Mike Mackie had a card set-up hoping he would see us and give us a shout out. The room was astonishingly crowded. getting to a table to look at something was impossible. Wade could only get about halfway into the room, we left his wheelchair outside, and while I got all the way in, it was too crowded for me to stay long. Wade asked about a cracked King Felix bat that was advertised but it had already been sold. I never even got my list out to look for anything. We experienced crowds everywhere for induction weekend. A trip into the actual Hall was a disaster as it was too crowded to move. People would stand in front of each display and not move for three or four minutes because they had nowhere to go. It was tremendously hot when we first got in, Wade didn't feel well after about 30 minutes so we went out. When we came back, I was the one who couldn't continue feeling hot, anxious, claustrophobic and miserable. We finally gave it up. Fortunately, both of us have been through the Hall before and have seen a lot of the older stuff they have and our trip wasn't centered on a trip through the Hall. We came for the induction ceremony of Griffey, (and Piazza, but mostly Griffey). It was a great experience although, stuffing 50,000 people in a small field in 100 degree weather does tend to make things uncomfortable. Because Wade had a wheelchair, we got to sit closer than we would have. Both Piazza and Griffey gave emotional speeches and it was cool to see all the HOFers, though Yaz was not in attendance this year possibly for health reasons. I wore a 'Yastrzemski' shirt to remind everyone of him. I do believe I saw 10,000 Piazza shirts and 5,000 Griffey shirts. It was so hot that officials feared for the safety of the crowd and pushed wheelbarrows through full of bottled water and giving it out free to anyone who wanted it. I'll also blame the heat for the scores of Piazza fans that left after his speech before Griffey spoke. The stores in Cooperstown as usual were overpriced but still fun to look through. Along the storefronts on Saturday and Sunday morning ex-ballplayers and a couple of other types of sports stars were at tables signing stuff, taking pictures or in some cases, just hanging out. Some others were inside certain stores and out of the heat at signing sessions. Wade spoke to Goose Gossage who was very friendly and we took a picture of him with Wade. He didn't charge anything and didn't seem to mind that Wade wore a Bryce Harper shirt at the time. Ha! Priceless! Wade also spoke to Lou Pinella who was very gracious and signed a ball for him at no charge. I must also report Wade said hi to Rollie Fingers who just turned away. I spoke to our own Lee Thomas who was there signing or selling pictures. I showed him my OBC shirt and asked if he was still with us. He said no, that he had gotten rid of all his stuff. I was still trying to absorb that when he said he got $30.00 for it. Now I was confused because I know that many of us contributed to his collection and it would be much greater than $30.00 worth and I could only manage to say, "That's too bad." He continued to say that he went with a guy Kranepool used. Kranepool had good luck with him but I just got screwed again. I can't say if maybe what I heard was inaccurate or not. It was kind of disturbing to me but maybe some of you that have been in contact with him more than I , know more. We made one more stop on the way home in Cleveland where we revisited the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. No crowds, cool temps, very nice. Oh, yeah, I did go back to the VFW on Sunday morning before the Inauguration and there were two tables left. I was looking for my last '64 Topps card, the Phil Niekro RC. there were two tables left and one had old cards but he said he sold his last one yesterday. I did end up buying a '58 Banks and '67 high number for high prices but I couldn't leave this trip with nothing. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 19:20:34 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: question From: Nick Covello Hi Guys:Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this onEbay or an auction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. ThanksNick Covello ================= To: Nick Covello , yahoogroups Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 14:35:09 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: JAY TYSVER I would not sell that. They didn't produce too many of those balls. The cards can always be gotten. Jay Tysver To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 19:20:34 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question Hi Guys:Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebayor an auction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. ThanksNick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 18:17:00 -0400 To: Nick Covello Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: Andy Huntoon If you don't need the money any time soon I would go with an auction house for a ball like that. Especially if you already have it authenticated and all the sigs came back good. I just think there is more time for the right buyers to see it that way rather than hoping the two bidders that will bid it up will actually both find it on eBay within a short 7-10 day listing. That's my first though on it anyway. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Guys: > Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or anauction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. > Thanks > Nick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 22:29:05 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: My Article ... and My Nationals Plea From: Patrick Prickett Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 21:39:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Patrick Prickett To: "obc-ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com" Subject: My article ... My Nationals plea Hi All, As many of you know, I've been researching the connection between the 1923 W572 baseball strip cards - and a variety of other strip cards including the W580 Boxing cards, W589 President cards, and an unidentified W strip cardset of actors/actress. Attached is a pretty big revision to the prior article I shared with the group, which among other conclusions shows thatthere were actually 3 (or 4) unknown actor/actress strip card sets that are connected with the 1923 W572 baseball set. If you liked the prior article, I think you will find this version even more interesting. Now for my plea ... I won't make the Nationals this year, but if I did I would be looking for cards from these sets. IF you see any of the following, I would be eternally grateful if you grabbed them: 1923 W572 (you should get these for under $100 - and most likely under $20): Barbare, Cadore, Duncan, Parkinson, Rigney, Wambsganns 1923 W572 (you should be able to get these for under $200 - and most likely under$100): Heilmann, Sewell 1923 W580 Boxing cards: Jack Britton, Georges Carpentier, James J. Corbett (NOT Young Corbett), Johnny Dundee, Frank Erne, Bob Fitzsimmons (NOT Young Bob), Benny Leonard, John L. Sullivan, Lew Tendler, Gene Tunney 1924 W589 Presidents: George Washington, James Madison,Andrew Jackson, James Tyler, Abraham Lincoln The various actor/actress cards in the article: You should be able to pick these up for $0.50-1.00 each. If you can get them at that price, grabthem and I'll worry about doubles later. (make sure they are strip cards with blank grey backs - the others come from another set). IF you see any uncut strips of these 4 of cards, PLEASE get a photo. If it's not a strip I have in this article - GET it. (Almost every strip in the article is from my collection - except the Babe Ruth/Ty Cobb/Walter Johnson strip- and if you see that, contact me with the price - I'll likely take it!). Oh ... and if you stumble across a 1952 Topps #189 Pete Reiser GREY back and it's under $1,500 - GET IT. I will reimburse you! Hope all attending the Nationals have a great time! And hope you enjoy the revised article!Patrick ================= To: "'Nick Covello'" , Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:46:14 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: "Grant Rainsley" Agree with auction house route=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.that=E2=99s a tough item, if authenticated. Check out their fees, and let them know you are on an exploratory fishing trip, and asking other houses, and looking for the most return you can get =E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6 I=E2=99d bet they would deal on commission for the ball=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.go from From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:21 PM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question Hi Guys: Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or an auction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. Nick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 18:53:48 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: chris tripler Nick, if you go thru the auction house route, I've had great luck with Robert Edwards auction house. Brian Dwyer is a good guy. 10% of hammer price is pretty decent especially since they do all the work. Just my two cents... OBC 2015 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:46 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Agree with auction house route=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.that=E2=99s a tough item, if authenticated. Check out their fees, and let them know you are on an exploratory fishing trip, and asking other houses, and looking for the most return you can get =E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6 I=E2=99d betthey would deal on commission for the ball=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.go from > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:21 PM > To: yahoogroups > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question > Hi Guys: > Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or anauction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. > Thanks > Nick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 19:20:55 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: Ken M   Agree with the auction house for a ball like that. Brian Dwyer sounds like the name of a former OBC'er if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if mentioning you're in the group will get you any special commission rate though...   My question is: what's the big name cards you'd be aiming at? That's probably a good questin for the group. Let's say you have ten grand in your bank account tomorrow. (Lottery ticket, falls off an armored van that drives away, you find a Babe Ruth auto'd ball in the attic) What are you buying at The National next week?  My answer is easy - the 1952 Mantle variation I need. I have one variation, but it's trimmed. Still cost an arm and a leg and that was twenty years ago. Now even an authentic one would use up most of that windfall. It's wildly overpriced, especially considering it was double printed. I wouldn't expect to get another one any other way with the prices it's selling at now. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 6:54 PMTo: Grant Rainsley;Cc: Nick Covello;yahoogroups;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question Nick, if you go thru the auction house route, I've had great luck with Robert Edwards auction house. Brian Dwyer is a good guy.10% of hammer price is pretty decent especially since they do all the work. Just my two cents... TripOBC 2015 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:46 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   Agree with auction house route……….that’s a tough item, if authenticated.  Check out their fees, and let them know you are on an exploratory fishing trip, and asking other houses, and looking for the most return you can get ……… I’d bet they would deal on commission for the ball……….go from there………. Grant From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:21 PM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question   Hi Guys:Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures,  my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or an auction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. ThanksNick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 20:55:05 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: chris tripler If I could find one in this price range, an 1860 Brooklyn Atlantics. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Agree with the auction house for a ball like that. Brian Dwyer sounds like the name of a former OBC'er if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if mentioning you're in the group will get you any special commission rate though... > My question is: what's the big name cards you'd be aiming at? That's probably a good questin for the group. Let's say you have ten grand in your bank account tomorrow. (Lottery ticket, falls off an armored van that drivesaway, you find a Babe Ruth auto'd ball in the attic) What are you buying at The National next week? > My answer is easy - the 1952 Mantle variation I need. I have one variation, but it's trimmed. Still cost an arm and a leg and that was twenty years ago. Now even an authentic one would use up most of that windfall. It's wildl y overpriced, especially considering it was double printed. I wouldn'texpect to get another one any other way with the prices it's selling at now. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 6:54 PM > To: Grant Rainsley; > Cc: Nick Covello;yahoogroups; > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question > Nick, if you go thru the auction house route, I've had great luck with Robert Edwards auction house. Brian Dwyer is a good guy. > 10% of hammer price is pretty decent especially since they do all the work. > Just my two cents... > Trip > OBC 2015 > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:46 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Agree with auction house route=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6.that=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a tough item, if authenticated. Check out their fees, and let them know you are on an exploratoryfishing trip, and asking other houses, and looking for the most return youcan get =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6 I=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2d bet they would deal on commission for the ball=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6.go from there=C3=A2=E2=82=AC >> Grant >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:21 PM >> To: yahoogroups >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question >> Hi Guys: >> Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, Isent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays,Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or an auction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. >> Thanks >> Nick Covello ================= Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 00:59:34 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: JAY TYSVER I'd buy 20,000 1979 Miguel Dilone cards. Jay Tysver On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 7:55 PM -0500, "chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: If I could find one in this price range, an 1860 Brooklyn Atlantics. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Agree with the auction house for a ball like that. Brian Dwyer sounds like the name of a former OBC'er if I'm not mistaken. I don't know if mentioning you're in the group will get you any special commission rate though... > My question is: what's the big name cards you'd be aiming at? That's probably a good questin for the group. Let's say you have ten grand in your bank account tomorrow. (Lottery ticket, falls off an armored van that drivesaway, you find a Babe Ruth auto'd ball in the attic) What are you buying at The National next week? > My answer is easy - the 1952 Mantle variation I need. I have one variation, but it's trimmed. Still cost an arm and a leg and that was twenty years ago. Now even an authentic one would use up most of that windfall. It's wildl y overpriced, especially considering it was double printed. I wouldn'texpect to get another one any other way with the prices it's selling at now. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Fri, Jul 29, 2016 6:54 PM > To: Grant Rainsley; > Cc: Nick Covello;yahoogroups; > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question > Nick, if you go thru the auction house route, I've had great luck with Robert Edwards auction house. Brian Dwyer is a good guy. > 10% of hammer price is pretty decent especially since they do all the work. > Just my two cents... > Trip > OBC 2015 > Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 29, 2016, at 6:46 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Agree with auction house route=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6.that=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s a tough item, if authenticated. Check out their fees, and let them know you are on an exploratoryfishing trip, and asking other houses, and looking for the most return youcan get =C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6 I=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2d bet they would deal on commission for the ball=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=A6.go from there=C3=A2=E2=82=AC >> Grant >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 12:21 PM >> To: yahoogroups >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question >> Hi Guys: >> Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, Isent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays,Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or an auction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. >> Thanks >> Nick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 21:11:38 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en In order to use the "watch" list, you have to be signed in to your account. Go to a card you are interested in. You will see your main options- Add to Cart, Buy Now, Make Offer. Below that you see the dealer's name. Right below that you see "add to watch list". Once you do that, it changes to "view watch list". Click that and it takes you there. On the main page of your "dashboard" The 6th item down on the left list of links is "watch list". In there you can make notes. I use it to record what I offered, who I am getting the card for, etc. Remember, when clicking "make offer" go WAY low so you can reveal if the seller will take offers and what his lowest would be. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 7/29/2016 10:28:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I=E2=99ve done a LOT of purchases with COMC and was not aware of a =E2=9Cwatch . Can someone lead me to the steps to do this? Tom Billing On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:38 AM, 'George Vrechek' _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Thanks, Sal, for the info on the =E2=9Cwatch=E2=9D list. I was unaware of it. I do like the consistency of photos on COMC and being able to zoom in on fronts and backs for those of us into variations and printing differences. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 21:32:41 -0400 To: Nick Covello Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: Steve Hi Nick, I have used Robert Edward Auctions in the past and have been extremely happy with the results. They have an amazing list of clients from all over the country and their free catalog is always very impressive. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Jul 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Guys: > Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or anauction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. > Thanks > Nick Covello ================= Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 21:52:32 -0400 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc From: "Thomas W. Billing" Gotcha. Thanks! > On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:11 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > In order to use the "watch" list, you have to be signed in to your account. Go to a card you are interested in. You will see your main options- Add to Cart, Buy Now, Make Offer. > Below that you see the dealer's name. Right below that you see "add to watch list". Once you do that, it changes to "view watch list". Click that and it takes you there. On the main page of your "dashboard" The 6th item down on the left list of links is "watch list". In there you can make notes. Iuse it to record what I offered, who I am getting the card for, etc. > Remember, when clicking "make offer" go WAY low so you can reveal if the seller will take offers and what his lowest would be. > > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 7/29/2016 10:28:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > I=E2=99ve done a LOT of purchases with COMC and was not aware of a =E2=9Cwatch list=E2=9D. Can someone lead me to the steps to do this? > Thanks. > Tom Billing >> On Jul 29, 2016, at 9:38 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> Thanks, Sal, for the info on the =E2=9Cwatch=E2=9D list. I was unaware of it. >> I do like the consistency of photos on COMC and being able to zoom in onfronts and backs for those of us into variations and printing differences. >> George Vrechek ================= Date: 29 Jul 2016 22:23:45 -0700 To: Subject: A Rich night at Tropicana Field From: bdangelo@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 03:47:43 -0400 To: Nick Covello Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question From: ShoelessWes Agree with auction house idea. Cant say i'd buy a card, because I'd rather have the ball. So, if you want to trade...... Wes Shepard Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2016, at 3:20 PM, Nick Covello nickcov@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Guys: > Question I have a 1962 National League All star game autographed ball, I sent it out to JSA to check the authentication it came back good loaded with some great signatures, Mazeroski, Boyer, Matthews, Billy Williams, Mays, Drysdale, Koufax, Clemente, Spahn, Gibson, Banks along with 17 other signatures, my question is I would like to sell it so I can get some big name cards off my wantlist, where would you sell something like this on Ebay or anauction house, any help you could give me would be a big help. > Thanks > Nick Covello ================= Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 15:23:57 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Re: My article ... My Nationals plea From: Patrick Prickett Can someone confirm that they can open the attachment? On Friday, July 29, 2016 2:39 PM, Patrick Prickett Hi All, As many of you know, I've been researching the connection between the 1923 W572 baseball strip cards - and a variety of other strip cards including the W580 Boxing cards, W589 President cards, and an unidentified W strip cardset of actors/actress. Attached is a pretty big revision to the prior article I shared with the group, which among other conclusions shows thatthere were actually 3 (or 4) unknown actor/actress strip card sets that are connected with the 1923 W572 baseball set. If you liked the prior article, I think you will find this version even more interesting. Now for my plea ... I won't make the Nationals this year, but if I did I would be looking for cards from these sets. IF you see any of the following, I would be eternally grateful if you grabbed them: 1923 W572 (you should get these for under $100 - and most likely under $20): Barbare, Cadore, Duncan, Parkinson, Rigney, Wambsganns 1923 W572 (you should be able to get these for under $200 - and most likely under$100): Heilmann, Sewell 1923 W580 Boxing cards: Jack Britton, Georges Carpentier, James J. Corbett (NOT Young Corbett), Johnny Dundee, Frank Erne, Bob Fitzsimmons (NOT Young Bob), Benny Leonard, John L. Sullivan, Lew Tendler, Gene Tunney 1924 W589 Presidents: George Washington, James Madison,Andrew Jackson, James Tyler, Abraham Lincoln The various actor/actress cards in the article: You should be able to pick these up for $0.50-1.00 each. If you can get them at that price, grabthem and I'll worry about doubles later. (make sure they are strip cards with blank grey backs - the others come from another set). IF you see any uncut strips of these 4 of cards, PLEASE get a photo. If it's not a strip I have in this article - GET it. (Almost every strip in the article is from my collection - except the Babe Ruth/Ty Cobb/Walter Johnson strip- and if you see that, contact me with the price - I'll likely take it!). Oh ... and if you stumble across a 1952 Topps #189 Pete Reiser GREY back and it's under $1,500 - GET IT. I will reimburse you! Hope all attending the Nationals have a great time! And hope you enjoy the revised article!Patrick ================= Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 14:22:57 -0700 To: Patrick Prickett Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: My article ... My Nationals plea [1 Attachment] From: Stamper It opened right up for me. No time to read it yet though. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Jul 30, 2016, at 8:23 AM, "Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Patrick Prickett included below] > Hi, > Can someone confirm that they can open the attachment? > Thanks! > Patrick > On Friday, July 29, 2016 2:39 PM, Patrick Prickett > Hi All, > As many of you know, I've been researching the connection between the 1923 W572 baseball strip cards - and a variety of other strip cards including the W580 Boxing cards, W589 President cards, and an unidentified W strip card set of actors/actress. Attached is a pretty big revision to the prior article I shared with the group, which among other conclusions shows that there were actually 3 (or 4) unknown actor/actress strip card sets that are connected with the 1923 W572 baseball set. If you liked the prior article, I think you will find this version even more interesting. > Now for my plea ... I won't make the Nationals this year, but if I did I would be looking for cards from these sets. IF you see any of the following, I would be eternally grateful if you grabbed them: > 1923 W572 (you should get these for under $100 - and most likely under $20): Barbare, Cadore, Duncan, Parkinson, Rigney, Wambsganns > 1923 W572 (you should be able to get these for under $200 - and most likely under $100): Heilmann, Sewell > 1923 W580 Boxing cards: Jack Britton, Georges Carpentier, James J. Corbett (NOT Young Corbett), Johnny Dundee, Frank Erne, Bob Fitzsimmons (NOT Young Bob), Benny Leonard, John L. Sullivan, Lew Tendler, Gene Tunney > 1924 W589 Presidents: George Washington, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, James Tyler, Abraham Lincoln > The various actor/actress cards in the article: You should be able to pick these up for $0.50-1.00 each. If you can get them at that price, grab them and I'll worry about doubles later. (make sure they are strip cards with blank grey backs - the others come from another set). > IF you see any uncut strips of these 4 of cards, PLEASE get a photo. If it's not a strip I have in this article - GET it. (Almost every strip in the article is from my collection - except the Babe Ruth/Ty Cobb/Walter Johnson strip - and if you see that, contact me with the price - I'll likely take > Oh ... and if you stumble across a 1952 Topps #189 Pete Reiser GREY back and it's under $1,500 - GET IT. I will reimburse you! > Hope all attending the Nationals have a great time! And hope you enjoy the revised article! > Patrick ================= Date: 30 Jul 2016 15:40:45 -0700 To: Subject: Hilliard show report and Narional heads-up From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 11:45:02 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Hillary Show From: Larry Tipton Well I was shocked to hear there was a show here in Hilliard, FL but when I drove into town the only thing special was some lady selling sno cones onthe corner. So I had a large tutti-fruity and called it a day:) Hilliard, Florida Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:44:52 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2016 National Roster Fill in the Blanks V 2.0 From: ChicoD1@aol.com OK Kids, 2 days and I hit the road. This is probably the last update to the roster. I think we have all the bases covered. Make sure you have Ken's and my phone numbers for when you get to the show so we can shuttle a badge out to you. The swap is pretty much set at my hotel Sat night. Make sure you take care of your shuttle drivers, as there is a cost to park. Don't forget the comfortable shoes, as this may be the single most important thing you do at the National. Not sure about where we will have Thursday dinner, We'll scout it out when we get in Tuesday. I am so itching to rummage through some boxes! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Comfort Inn AC North Y Tu-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Chelsea N Th-Fr Jerry Barnes 937-673-0694 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Jim Craig 302-588-0078 Home Sa Wayne Delia 914-204-9425 Bally's Th-F Jeff Delott 516-395-6589 Trump Taj Mahal W-Th Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon No Y Tu-Su Rob Fitts N Th-F Joel Freedman 978-621-2180 Comfort Inn AC North Y Th-Su Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Th-Su Ron Hoehne 860-751-9337 Y F-M Andy Huntoon 707-321-3441 Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y W-Su Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Bally's Y F-Su Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Tri Way Motel Y M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, Clarion In & Suites Absecon Y Tu-Sa Bob Reed 203-494-9440 Roadway Inn Parkway Absecon Y W-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Steve Sankner F Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Fantasea Resorts No Y Su-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 ? Y Fr-Sa Wes Shepard 937-367-4724 Tri Way Motel Y F-Su Chris Tripler 860-921-7843 Y Sat Randy Welk 559-392-1733 Y Sat Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Chelsea Y W-Su Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 19:52:03 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Dealer List From: ChicoD1@aol.com Here is a copy of the "perferred" dealer list. Some names don't have booth numbers, because I can't find them on the National list. I know a couple of our regular guys are not setting up this year. Print it out, this will be your guide to saving time and hitting the best OBC tables. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: , Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 21:43:27 -0400 Subject: Hello!! and see you Saturday night! From: "Matt Yudt" Greetings everyone LOOONG rambling update ahead. Bottom line - I intend to be in Atlantic City sometime Saturday and join my first OBC National swap session! I'm sitting here deep in my usual summer collecting lull, which is far deeper than usual, unfortunately. I have become quite the 'fair weather' collector - or I guess that would be 'non-fair weather collector'?? Anyway, once spring hits and the golf season gets going and the days are longer, the kids activities pick up, the bills and junk on the desk pile higher, and I just don't have the drive to sit at the desk for any extended period. Its been like that for a few years now, but this year my oldest son graduated high school and is off to Penn State main campus in less than month. We're having a big part in less than 2 weeks and I've been working outside and getting the house and garage tidied up for that. Throw in an extra family mini-vacation, a new job (same company, new position - less flexibility) and the fact I joined a golf club, I'm usually not settled in the house till 9 or so. I've been trying to play a lot of golf too - twice a week and at least one practice session too - turns out to be like a part-time job! Just one I pay for instead of the opposite.. The last cards I bought were probably early June when Richard Labs was in town - who unfortunately I didn't get to meet up with. (Hope you are doing ok, Richard.) It's pretty much all or nothing for me- as I was able to add over 1700 cards to the collection from Jan thru April but probably about 100 since. But it is the national stories the past few year that start the fire going - and I think I will regret not coming for at least a day since it's only a couple hour drive for me. So I am going to make sure I'm caught up on everything this week and can spend a guilt-free Saturday enjoying cards and even more so, seeing the gang at the swap. I intend to get down there early enough to enjoy a few hours of the show and see how many old Bowmans I can add to the collection. Think that is what I will focus on. I remember the overwhelmingness of my first National in Baltimore a few years ago when I was an OBC rookie. I'm sure it will still happen, but at least I'll have a better objective going in. One more thing - and this is really for the local guys (Philly) - Is there anyone that can make the Philly Show end of September on Friday AM early and on Sunday at closing? I was going to help my good friend and former school teacher Joce Kaligis at the show, like a try to always do - he is getting up there in age and basically just unload and load his van for him at the start and end of the show. I get a free dealer badge, great comraderie, nice "bonus" in cards, and of course being in the show hours before any of the public. The reason I ask is that I was invited by a bunch of prominent scientists to be the 12th guy on their golf trip that week - in IRELAND! It was really hard to say no to that, and I didn't. I feel bad letting Joce down again and just thought MAYBE someone out there would be interested in that.? Long shot, but hey. ya never know. I live about 20 minutes from there and work even closer, so easy for me to do it 3X a year if I'm in Well, I mixed about 11 bags of cement today to set up a new basketball hoop in my driveway. Instructions call for 6 bags. I bought 9 and had to run back for a couple more bags. My hole was just a little too big. Ha. Anyway, muscles are tightening up, so better find the Advil and call back Mike Rich who left me a message this morning. Yes, that partially prompted me to finally get off my a@ and send a note. Looong note. I really look forward to the swap - gonna bring all my dupes and whatever else I can find to swap - or throw at people, however that works. Because of my last minuteness, I don't expect the usual handshakes everyone else has already prepared for, and I will unlikely be able to find something for everyone - that they need anyway, but hey, is that really a pre-requisite? Cheers everybody, and see you Saturday night! Matt Yudt