================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:44:42 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Morning waiver wire From: Glenn Codere Morning all, I've decided to pop a few up on to the waiver wire this fine morning. Let me know what you need! 1951B: 253, 305 1952T: 311, 312 1954T: 128 1955T: 123,164 1963T: 537 GlennGlenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= To: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 07:23:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Morning waiver wire From: "George Vrechek" Glenn, I could probably take some of those off your hands, but they need to be pack-fresh crisp with good gloss and gum dust. I can return fire with THE Wagner and my condo. George Vrechek ================= Date: 01 Apr 2016 06:26:43 -0700 To: Subject: 1966 Waivers From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:33:56 -0500 To: "JTysver1@msn.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Waivers From: Jay Tysver Silver lot only one left. On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:26 AM, "JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Three different waivers for 1966 Topps baseball. > The Gold Medal award is a small starter set of 21 cards. As a lot only. > #s- 141, 144, 146, 151, 161, 163, 168, 171, 178, 187, 201, 206, 208, 268,274, 292, 314, 319, 330, 349, 387 > The Silver Medal award is a lot of 8 cards- #s 141, 144, 168, 171, 208, 268, 319, 387 > The Bronze Medal is a lot of two cards- #s 319 and 387 > FCFS. > Include your address and name > Jay Tysver ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:35:17 -0500 To: "JTysver1@msn.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1966 Waivers From: Jay Tysver All gone. On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:26 AM, "JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Three different waivers for 1966 Topps baseball. > The Gold Medal award is a small starter set of 21 cards. As a lot only. > #s- 141, 144, 146, 151, 161, 163, 168, 171, 178, 187, 201, 206, 208, 268,274, 292, 314, 319, 330, 349, 387 > The Silver Medal award is a lot of 8 cards- #s 141, 144, 168, 171, 208, 268, 319, 387 > The Bronze Medal is a lot of two cards- #s 319 and 387 > FCFS. > Include your address and name > Jay Tysver ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:36:33 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Question From: OBC Nick P Does anybody know what set this is? How many cards are in the set? ================= To: "'OBC Nick P'" , Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 08:38:50 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Question [1 Attachment] From: "Grant Rainsley" 1965 Coca Cola NHL I think, need to see a whole card to confirm.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 8:37 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from OBC Nick P included below] Does anybody know what set this is? How many cards are in the set? ================= Date: 01 Apr 2016 08:44:00 -0700 To: Subject: just a few waivers today From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 11:54:49 -0400 To: grains@shaw.ca, nachobcards@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Grant is correct. 18 cards per all original 6 HNL teams for 108 cards in the set. Each team came as an unperforated 18 card strip. There is also analbum that goes with the set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Nick P' ; 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 11:39 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Question 1965 Coca Cola NHL I think, need to see a whole card to confirm=E2=A6=E2=A6.. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 8:37 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from OBC Nick P included below] Does anybody know what set this is? How many cards are in the set? ================= Date: 01 Apr 2016 09:38:28 -0700 To: Subject: Cheap Mantle buy it now From: ricktopps@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 12:49:25 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap Mantle buy it now From: ricktopps@aol.com The cards sold exactly 5 minutes after I posted the link. I hope someone here had a shot at it. I almost bought it, but it creates so much extra work and there is always the chance that no one else would really want it. -----Original Message----- From: ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 11:38 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap Mantle buy it now This is an OBC special but won't last long. I hope someone in OBC might want it. 2 Mantle's etc. LOT of damaged cards MARKED 1963 TOPPS #200 MANTLE #61 FLEER GIBSON MORGAN RC LOT of damaged cards MARKED 1963 TOPPS #2... US $25.00 Acceptable in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Cards, Baseball View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo < /p> Rick Johnson ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 10:05:41 -0700 To: ricktopps@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap Mantle buy it now From: Rick For $25 even if you didn't need any should be scooped up. No it wasn't me. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:49 AM, ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > The cards sold exactly 5 minutes after I posted the link. I hope someone here had a shot at it. I almost bought it, but it creates so much extra work and there is always the chance that no one else would really want it. > Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 11:38 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap Mantle buy it now > This is an OBC special but won't last long. I hope someone in OBC might want it. 2 Mantle's etc. > LOT of damaged cards MARKED 1963 TOPPS #200 MANTLE #61 FLEER GIBSON MORGAN > LOT of damaged cards MARKED 1963 TOPPS #2... > US $25.00 Acceptable in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Cards, Baseball > View on www.ebay.com > Preview by Yahoo > < /p> > Rick Johnson ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:27:11 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Gotcha! From: Glenn Codere You may by know have realised that this morning's waiver wire offer was nothing more than a cruel, cruel April Fool on my part. I'm sorry that Idon't actually have Mantle, Mays, Koufax, Rose, Aaron, Clemente, andRobinson RC's to pass around, but if I ever do end up with doubles of those cards, OBC will be my first port of call. Still, I managed to reel a few of you in! !=86 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 14:10:57 -0400 To: "glenncodere@yahoo.com" , yahoogroups Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Gotcha! From: JDahms ================= Date: 01 Apr 2016 12:49:45 -0700 To: Subject: OBC Closet Showcase... From: drsam9795@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 17:21:08 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1978 Topps Football WAIVER WIRE From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I have over 80 extra '78T football cards that are setting on my desk. Holler if you have a list or if you want a starter set! Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 18:29:04 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap Mantle buy it now From: ricktopps@aol.com This OBC collection was posted on the OBC message board in hopes of lettingsomeone find a "bargain" on some old cards. 5 minutes after I posted on OBC, the auction had a buyer. I wasn't sure whether or not an OBCer won. Fortunately, a few hours later I received an e-mail from someone who wants to remain anonymous, but assured me that OBC had claimed the cards. In the OBC spirit of Stan Hack, I suspect these cards may be finding new homes in the weeks For those that need reminders of some OBC slang here is a refresher (that Iwas unaware of) Stan Hacked - One is said to have been "Stan Hacked" or "Hacked" when they are the recipient of a package from the group's mysterious benefactor, StanHack. BE CAREFUL out there Rick Johnson -----Original Message----- From: ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 11:38 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cheap Mantle buy it now This is an OBC special but won't last long. I hope someone in OBC might want it. 2 Mantle's etc. LOT of damaged cards MARKED 1963 TOPPS #200 MANTLE #61 FLEER GIBSON MORGAN RC LOT of damaged cards MARKED 1963 TOPPS #2... US $25.00 Acceptable in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Cards, Baseball View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo < /p> Rick Johnson ================= Date: 01 Apr 2016 16:21:48 -0700 To: Subject: Question - Are Drakes the same thing as Hostess From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 19:32:04 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] just a few waivers today From: Mike Glasser Amazing that I happen to have each one of those already. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 11:45 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] just a few waivers today In the spirit of Glenn's generosity, let me know if you can use any of these: 1953 Topps 253 261 267 268 271 275. 1955 Topps 175 186 203 209. 1961 Fleer Roy Hobbs (the number is scratched out) Preference to those I owe... which is most of you. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 23:37:05 +0000 Subject: Please vote on your favorite Haiku entry From: Taylor Schock The 11 Haikus or beat poems below have been submitted by those seeking piece (of cardboard). Voting is open to anyone so please let me know your favorite number by emailing me directly. I'll tally the voting on Monday. I doubt I'll have stuff together this weekend to send out Monday, but I wanted toallow for weekend voting. Was foolish of me, Seeking an apostrophe... Alas, I have it! Sweet smell of card board How I long for the years past Never get older Mays, Musial, Mantle, All of you soon I will seek, When I win 7A. Return from old show Box of cards to rifle through Wife says grass first though.. Testing Self Worthiness treasures in a house polished with boxes of cards. Variations... GRRRRR! Grant would look good in my set Calling this Card-Ku I'll bid Seven Cee There might be a hit for me Or possibly three Dad and I collect Baseball cardboard cards of yore A bond so great formed Nineteen sixty three's Although meant the world to me But sent them away! 7A was "Mick" I would choose it any day Six and three is fine... Jim Grant has three cards Different from each other. I hadn't a clue. ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 21:33:19 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Morning waiver wire From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I might be able to fit in that 52T #312 into my Dodger set, depending on which stitching version it is :-D Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/1/2016 3:48:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Morning all, I've decided to pop a few up on to the waiver wire this fine morning. Let me know what you need! 1951B: 253, 305 1952T: 311, 312 1954T: 128 1955T: 123,164 1963T: 537 _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.co%20m/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) ================= Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:56:59 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Morning waiver wire From: Ken M Glenn,  I need a stitching variation too - on the 1952 #311. I can offer my time share in Hawaii and the deed to the Tobin Bridge here in Boston. I bought them both this morning from two different people, but I'm willing to flip them right away. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 9:33 PMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Morning waiver wire I might be able to fit in that 52T #312 into my Dodger set, depending on which stitching version it is :-D Sal Domino OBC - 1992  In a message dated 4/1/2016 3:48:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes:  Morning all, I've decided to pop a few up on to the waiver wire this fine morning. Let me know what you need! 1951B: 253, 305 1952T: 311, 312 [Unable to display image]1954T: 128 1955T: 123,164 1963T: 537 Glenn   Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:12:33 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question - Are Drakes the same thing as Hostess From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Different stuff Mike. They were competing companies back in the day. Drakes had the coffee cakes, yankee doodles and ring dings, Hostess had the twinkies and cupcakes with the swirl. Good thing I liked both :-) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/1/2016 7:21:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I have a small stack of panels from Drake's. Are they the same Hostess panels that people collect? Anyone collecting them? Mike Glasser ================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 22:24:11 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Morning waiver wire From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I'll give you everything the others have offered, plus I'll add Guru's home in sunny Florida and the Sam Taylor Museum! :-D Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/1/2016 9:57:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I need a stitching variation too - on the 1952 #311. I can offer my time share in Hawaii and the deed to the Tobin Bridge here in Boston. I bought them both this morning from two different people, but I'm willing to flip them right away. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. -- ---- Original message------ From: _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Fri, Apr 1, 2016 9:33 PM To: _obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Morning waiver wire I might be able to fit in that 52T #312 into my Dodger set, depending on which stitching version it is : -D Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/1/2016 3:48:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,_ (mailto:%20OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) writes: Morning all, I've decided to pop a few up on to the waiver wire this fine morning. Let me know what you need! 1951B: 253, 305 1952T: 311, 312 [Unable to display image]1954T: 128 1955T: 123,164 1963T: 537 _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.co%20m/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) ================= Date: 02 Apr 2016 12:43:28 -0700 To: Subject: APRIL FOOLS! From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 02 Apr 2016 13:43:50 -0700 To: Subject: Waviers - Old Wheaties Panels From: miglasser@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 21:19:39 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: not for the condition sensitive From: nick pelletier Two lots available..... first priority given to people I owe. The plan is to package up sunday night and mail out monday morning. # 1) 1978 OPC Hockey lot of 102 with duplicates possible. BIG NAME, Mike Bossy Rookie-the only card in the late 70's with book value bv$100 not named Gretzky. Other names include-Mike Bossy headliners, Gilles Meloche, Phil Esposito, Tony Esposito, Ken Dryden, Stan Mikita, Billy Smith, Gerry Cheevers, and Brad Park. Condition is super poor or less. decent pictures. Skinned and trimmed. #2) 1977 OPC hockey. Lot of 148, some duplicates possible. Among the stars included are Bobby Orr, Darryl Sittler, Stan Mikirta, Pete Mahovlich, Brad Park, Bryan Trottier, Marcel Dionne, Tony Esposito, Phil Esposito, Ken Dryden, and Gerry Cheevers. This is as much as 1/3rd of the set with many of the big names. Condition is super poor or less. Pictures are decent. Skinned and Only one lot per person unless nobody else claims one or the other. Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 07:48:04 +0200 To: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Closet Showcase... [5 Attachments] From: Matthew Glidden Amazing Kellogg's displays, Sam! Those boxes must be a lot trickier to come by than the cards. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:49 PM, drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_-3365205355146904469_TopText> from drsam9795@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] included below] > Here's my attempt at downloading pictures, so sorry if this isn't > readable... > My Card closet along with two other pictures of my newest display case, > the 1975 and 1977 Kellogg's sets. I'm also putting together another one > with the 1976 set, but I'd REALLY like a Frosted Flakes box from 1976 with > the advertisement on the front. That space in the middle is perfectly sized > for a 10.5 oz box... > Sam Taylor ================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 13:25:49 +0000 (UTC) To: dugout traders , Subject: your thoughts and prayers are requested From: John Dahms I would like to ask you guys and gals to take a moment today and every day in the near future to keep my beautiful stepdaughter Nicole and her family in your thoughts and prayers. I received a call from her earlier in the week letting me know that the doctors found a lump in one of her breasts.....they believe it is the dreaded cancer. she goes in for her exam this week and we will find out for sure. yesterday afternoon I received another call from her. I answered in my best up beat voice just thinking we were going to be talking about my granddaughters but this was not to be...she told me that she was in a terrible roll over accident yesterday morning and had to be life flighted to a hospital. a broken scapula, broken rib, several disrupted vertebrae later she ishome resting as best as she can....she had to stop in mid conversation a couple of times just to catch her breath... I always worry about my kids, every day I think of each of them and the grandkids. Nicole is a 3.5 hour drive away so it is unlike most things thatI can just drive across town and make it better. she is a fighter and inthis my hopes lay. thanks for letting me ramble disrupt your sunday morning. be well all John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 17:39:30 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] your thoughts and prayers are requested From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Please let us know what we can do to help. What area is she in? Maybeone of us lives close enough we can have something dropped off. We will keep Nicole in our thoughts and prayers. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: dugout traders ; OBC ramblings ; trading bases Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2016 9:28 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] your thoughts and prayers are requested I would like to ask you guys and gals to take a moment today and every day in the near future to keep my beautiful stepdaughter Nicole and her family in your thoughts and prayers. I received a call from her earlier in the week letting me know that the doctors found a lump in one of her breasts.....they believe it is the dreaded cancer. she goes in for her exam this week and we will find out for sure. yesterday afternoon I received another call from her. I answered in my best up beat voice just thinking we were going to be talking about my granddaughters but this was not to be...she told me that she was in a terrible roll over accident yesterday morning and had to be life flighted to a hospital. a broken scapula, broken rib, several disrupted vertebrae later she ishome resting as best as she can....she had to stop in mid conversation a couple of times just to catch her breath... I always worry about my kids, every day I think of each of them and the grandkids. Nicole is a 3.5 hour drive away so it is unlike most things thatI can just drive across town and make it better. she is a fighter and inthis my hopes lay. thanks for letting me ramble disrupt your sunday morning. be well all John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 18:22:49 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] your thoughts and prayers are requested From: JDahms ================= To: Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:04:31 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Closet Showcase... From: "Matt Yudt" Been enjoying checking out others digs. Here is a slightly panoramic view of the half of my 'office' I use for my hobby. Hope it's not too big a file. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 3:50 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Closet Showcase... [5 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Here's my attempt at downloading pictures, so sorry if this isn't My Card closet along with two other pictures of my newest display case, the 1975 and 1977 Kellogg's sets. I'm also putting together another one with the 1976 set, but I'd REALLY like a Frosted Flakes box from 1976 with the advertisement on the front. That space in the middle is perfectly sized for a 10.5 oz box... Sam Taylor ================= To: , Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 07:14:00 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Closet Showcase... From: Bob Reed Sam's closet is impressive but it's tucked away in a corner of his basementand not nearly impressive as the basement. I encourage Sam to show more pictures of his collection for those that have not been able to see it in person. To: drsam9795@gmail.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 07:48:04 +0200 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Closet Showcase... Amazing Kellogg's displays, Sam! Those boxes must be a lot trickier to come by than the cards. On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:49 PM, drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] [Attachment(s) from drsam9795@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] Here's my attempt at downloading pictures, so sorry if this isn't readable... My Card closet along with two other pictures of my newest display case, the1975 and 1977 Kellogg's sets. I'm also putting together another one with the 1976 set, but I'd REALLY like a Frosted Flakes box from 1976 with the advertisement on the front. That space in the middle is perfectly sized for a10.5 oz box... Sam Taylor ================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:07:55 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: fake signatures From: biggies@aol.com I hope this doesn't come across as some cheap attempt to brag about my kid but rather a first hand example of counterfeit signatures. I surf ebay for my Son's cards, still need 19 to complete the run, tells you about the UV industry when a kid who never played a regular season game has over 30 cards printed. So I ran across this signature card, http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/231376149837 He never made this signature. It looks like his silly scrawl but it is not his. Yet someone trying to complete a complete set signed might read the COA stuff and accept that it is real. I read somewhere that more than half the signatures out there are fake. I also have a friend who's Dad was sick the same time mine was and he was a lifelong Packer fan. He bought a Bart Starr signed flat for his Dad. When he showed it to me he asked, "do you think it's real?" It had a flimsy homemade COA but looked nice. He paid $150 for it had it framed and gave it to his Dad who passed away later that year. The truth is that it didn't matter. Does it matter? ================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 18:07:43 -0400 To: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] fake signatures From: Andy Huntoon Hey Bob. Is it possible Shane did sign it in person at some point? Just wondering. It does really look like his sig. I have a few of them myself. As for the Starr auto, in that situation I don't think it matters. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:07 PM, biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I hope this doesn't come across as some cheap attempt to brag about my kid but rather a first hand example of counterfeit signatures. > I surf ebay for my Son's cards, still need 19 to complete the run, tells you about the UV industry when a kid who never played a regular season gamehas over 30 cards printed. > So I ran across this signature card, > http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/231376149837 > He never made this signature. It looks like his silly scrawl but it is not his. Yet someone trying to complete a complete set signed might read the COA stuff and accept that it is real. I read somewhere that more than half the signatures out there are fake. > I also have a friend who's Dad was sick the same time mine was and he wasa lifelong Packer fan. He bought a Bart Starr signed flat for his Dad. When he showed it to me he asked, "do you think it's real?" It had a flimsy homemade COA but looked nice. He paid $150 for it had it framed and gave it to his Dad who passed away later that year. > The truth is that it didn't matter. > Does it matter? ================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 18:55:16 -0400 To: cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] fake signatures From: biggies@aol.com Content-Language: en Hi Andy, I sat with him when he did all 5000 Panini signatures. They were all on a small plastic squares. But I did send him this link and asked if maybe he'd signed a card for someone at a game or practice and he said that it was not his signature. Not a very hard one to duplicate. My overall point was how many fakes are there out there? In a message dated 4/4/2016 6:07:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com writes: Hey Bob. Is it possible Shane did sign it in person at some point? Just wondering. It does really look like his sig. I have a few of them myself. As for the Starr auto, in that situation I don't think it matters. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2016, at 5:07 PM, _biggies@aol.com_ (mailto:biggies@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I hope this doesn't come across as some cheap attempt to brag about my kid but rather a first hand example of counterfeit signatures. I surf ebay for my Son's cards, still need 19 to complete the run, tells you about the UV industry when a kid who never played a regular season game has over 30 cards printed. So I ran across this signature card, http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/231376149837 He never made this signature. It looks like his silly scrawl but it is not his. Yet someone trying to complete a complete set signed might read the COA stuff and accept that it is real. I read somewhere that more than half the signatures out there are fake. I also have a friend who's Dad was sick the same time mine was and he was a lifelong Packer fan. He bought a Bart Starr signed flat for his Dad. When he showed it to me he asked, "do you think it's real?" It had a flimsy homemade COA but looked nice. He paid $150 for it had it framed and gave itto his Dad who passed away later that year. The truth is that it didn't matter. Does it matter? ================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 17:17:22 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: American History From: Mike Diamanti Greetings Cardboard Nuts: A week ago my wife and I watched an American Experience documentary, "Space I can't stop thinking about it. John Paul Stapp, an Air Force M.D., risked his life many times to understand deceleration, and Joseph Kittinger jumped, yes jumped, from 102,800 feet on Aug. 16th, 1960, to test a high altitude parachute. Joseph Kittinger link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Kittinger Here's the American Experience link: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/spacemen/ Why am I bringing this up on Opening Day? Well, because it's American history I did not know anything about (even though i was alive during all of it), and American history ties in with baseball, which is the American pastime, according to some people. It's the story of the men and women, scientists, workers, all the people who made efforts to get Americans into space, prior to Mercury, Gemini, and But the bigger connection, to me, is our very own Geno, retired USAF pilot who flew a LOT of aircraft during his career. But, Geno, did you ever pull 46.2 G's?! Here's the guy who did it --- John Paul Stapp. And he set the land speed record at 632 miles an hour while taking those G's. Wiki-link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stapp I still can hardly believe he survived it..............think about it. ================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 20:19:13 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question [1 Attachment] From: Matthew Glidden Hi Nick, Google says they're 1965-66 Coca Cola Hockey, 108 cards in all. http://www.beckett.com/hockey/1965-66/coca-cola On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#m_-6967221711694005605_TopText> from OBC Nick P included > below] > Does anybody know what set this is? How many cards are in the set? > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 18:48:11 -0600 To: Mike Diamanti , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] American History From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 19:56:16 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Just had to share From: OBC Nick P We've all seen it. Some guy on pawn stars selling something he found at a garage sale. The guy sells it for thousands of dollars after buying it for a I just had that find. But I'm not selling. Jake Elwell got me into a dealin eBay. After a little pressing on the seller we made an extra part of our deal. After figuring all of the costs, shipping etc...., and only counting price for the hits to my list....I'm into each card for 0.96. One of those cards is a 1960 topps Stan Mikita rookie. Yup, with a BV of $400 I found a hof rookie for less than a quarter of a percentage point. Sure it's a Tipton but it's crossed off my list. Thanks for the tip Jake! ================= Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 19:17:54 -0600 To: Mike Diamanti , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] American History From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:07:49 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Counterfeit PSA From: Yahoo Content-Disposition: inline; ================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:12:01 -0400 To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Counterfeit PSA [1 Attachment] From: Jimi Thayer Sorry, Jerry, but what's not legit? I just ran the certification numbers and they are fine. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 5, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from Yahoo included below] > So now they are reproducing PSA graded counterfeit cards, and passing them off as legit. > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 15:15:50 +0000 (UTC) To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Counterfeit PSA [1 Attachment] From: mark_macrae@comcast.net This problem has been around for years. The cards are either fake or lower grade examples. Legit PSA serial numbers are used so when a prospective buyer looks into it, all appears well. Very common to see these on Craigslist and flea markets. Another reason to support dealing with people you know...Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "obc-ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 8:07:49 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Counterfeit PSA [1 Attachment] [ Attachment(s) from Yahoo included below] So now they are reproducing PSA graded counterfeit cards, and passing them off as legit. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 09:12:10 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Counterfeit PSA From: Larry Tipton $7600 for a PSA 10 1980 Topps R Henderson RC where there is this kind of money you know crooks will show up. Look at the "welds" on the Henderson RC right below the flip (paper that describes the card) lower left corner of the flip. You can tell the case has been opened because that little dot has frosting it should be clear. The flip may be legit but the PSA 10 card is removed and a slightly lesser grade card is inserted. Then the raw PSA card is resubmitted to PSA and if it gets another 10, it's replaced by a nice looking $25 Henderson RC. Imagine the money to be made with Mantle and Mays RCs! Agree with what Marc M said buy from dealers you know especially with high dollar There is reported to be some guy out of Mexico who cracks out the cards andthen sells them to minor eBay sellers. The minor eBay sellers think they are making a killing in profits but they don't know they are selling tampered PSA cases! These "minor" sellers are selling expensive cards and can lose everything when someone returns these tampered PSA cards. Lots of info onNet54 as these guys are more familiar with high grade cards. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 11:18:16 -0700 Subject: So what's the record? From: "Grant Rainsley" In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles...and you got a card in each pack of a "Sicle" jet or rocket.....there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Until today, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap...so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, or anywhere else, so maybe not many survived....on the other hand, they aren't in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren't worth a whole lot. I'd be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist..well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a set completion? Casey would say "You could look it up" but I don't know where....... ================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:13:06 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re So what's the record From: Larry Tipton Grant 1959 Sicle Air Force Airplanes are on my wantlist but there appears to be more than 25 cards numbered A1 through A42 then AA43 through AA76. Unless this is a different issue? Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 15:17:37 -0400 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Counterfeit PSA From: Mike Glasser This just confirms my decision to collect (and be really careful with) raw cards Thanks for the great info. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 12:12 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Counterfeit PSA $7600 for a PSA 10 1980 Topps R Henderson RC where there is this kind of money you know crooks will show up. Look at the "welds" on the Henderson RC right below the flip (paper that describes the card) lower left corner of the flip. You can tell the case has been opened because that little dot has frosting it should be clear. The flip may be legit but the PSA 10 card is removed and a slightly lesser grade card is inserted. Then the raw PSA card is resubmitted to PSA and if it gets another 10, it's replaced by a nice looking $25 Henderson RC. Imagine the money to be made with Mantle and Mays RCs! Agree with what Marc M said buy from dealers you know especially with high dollar There is reported to be some guy out of Mexico who cracks out the cards andthen sells them to minor eBay sellers. The minor eBay sellers think they are making a killing in profits but they don't know they are selling tampered PSA cases! These "minor" sellers are selling expensive cards and can lose everything when someone returns these tampered PSA cards. Lots of info onNet54 as these guys are more familiar with high grade cards. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "'Larry Tipton'" , Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 12:56:43 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re So what's the record From: "Grant Rainsley" Yes, different issue completely Guru.....here's a scan of front/back of the Canuck issue..... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 12:13 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re So what's the record Grant 1959 Sicle Air Force Airplanes are on my wantlist but there appears to be more than 25 cards numbered A1 through A42 then AA43 through AA76. Unless this is a different issue? Sent from my iPhone ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 20:59:05 +0000 Subject: Re: Please vote on your favorite Haiku entry From: Taylor Schock The votes have been tallied and in a Nova style win over OK, Mke Glasser's haiku wins with a 7 to 3 margin over the next best entry. Return from old show Box of cards to rifle through Wife says grass first though. Everyone who requested waiver wire stuff will either be getting waiver wirestuff (from Kurt or me) or stuff I pulled because the waiver wire stuff had multiple requests. Everything went out earlier today except for Mike's haiku box, which I idiotically forgot to put an address on before I went to the PO, so it might be a couple days before that gets sent Mike. In any case, thanks to everyone who put in a request and provided their poetry skill entries. Maybe the next one should be musical. Instead of singingfor your supper you'll sing for your cards? Probably not, as I'll need to listen to the entries. [😊] From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 7:37 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Please vote on your favorite Haiku entry The 11 Haikus or beat poems below have been submitted by those seeking piece (of cardboard). Voting is open to anyone so please let me know your favorite number by emailing me directly. I'll tally the voting on Monday. I doubt I'll have stuff together this weekend to send out Monday, but I wanted toallow for weekend voting. Was foolish of me, Seeking an apostrophe... Alas, I have it! Sweet smell of card board How I long for the years past Never get older Mays, Musial, Mantle, All of you soon I will seek, When I win 7A. Return from old show Box of cards to rifle through Wife says grass first though.. Testing Self Worthiness treasures in a house polished with boxes of cards. Variations... GRRRRR! Grant would look good in my set Calling this Card-Ku I'll bid Seven Cee There might be a hit for me Or possibly three Dad and I collect Baseball cardboard cards of yore A bond so great formed Nineteen sixty three's Although meant the world to me But sent them away! 7A was "Mick" I would choose it any day Six and three is fine... Jim Grant has three cards Different from each other. I hadn't a clue. ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:20:05 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: It's Wednesday...Prince Spaghetti Day OR around here WAIVER WIRE From: chris tripler Hope everyone's week is progressing nicely...to make it a little shorter, how about some waiver wire action. 1) '52T #147 Bob Young2) '54T #34 Rivera, 66 Lepcio3) '59T #168, 2294) '62T#329 (it's Ex-Exmt, but OC)5) '63 Post #103 Pagan6) '64 #213 LA Angels TC7) '65T Embossed #69 Gibson8) '67T #272 Cubs RCs9) '68T #59110) '69T Deckles #3, 4 Yaz, 12 Carew, 16, 27 Clemente All waiver claims within the past two weeks are shipping out Friday. OBC is awesome! TripOBC '15 ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:43:36 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Re: It's Wednesday...Prince Spaghetti Day OR around here WAIVER From: chris tripler Nearly all claimed, here's what's left... 2) '54T #66 Lepcio 4) '62T #329 (it's Ex-Exmt, but OC) 6) '64 #213 LA Angels TC 8) '67T #272 Cubs RCs Trip (...off to work...) On Wednesday, April 6, 2016 6:20 AM, chris tripler Hope everyone's week is progressing nicely...to make it a little shorter, how about some waiver wire action. 1) '52T #147 Bob Young2) '54T #34 Rivera, 66 Lepcio3) '59T #168, 2294) '62T#329 (it's Ex-Exmt, but OC)5) '63 Post #103 Pagan6) '64 #213 LA Angels TC7) '65T Embossed #69 Gibson8) '67T #272 Cubs RCs9) '68T #59110) '69T Deckles #3, 4 Yaz, 12 Carew, 16, 27 Clemente All waiver claims within the past two weeks are shipping out Friday. OBC is awesome! TripOBC '15 ================= To: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 06:52:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Counterfeit PSA From: "George Vrechek" Thanks, Guru, for the info on PSA cracked cases and substituting cards. I guess that's why you are called the Guru. The morale is to always go with Guru graded cards - gem mint Tiptons are always the real thing. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:20:28 -0400 To: grains@shaw.ca, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com The only reason I had this non-sport item on my shopping list was to help you complete your set. I am not working on any non-sport sets, unless they also contain sports cards (Topps Scoops, etc.). Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:18 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles=E2=A6=E2=A6.and you got a card in each pack of a =E2=9CSicle=E2=9D jet or rocket=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Untiltoday, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, oranywhere else, so maybe not many survived=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.on the other hand, they aren=E2=99t in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren=E2=99t worth a whole lot. I=E2=99d be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist=E2=A6=E2=A6well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a se t completion? Casey would say =E2=9CYou could look it up=E2=9D but I don=E2=99t know where=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.. ================= To: "grains@shaw.ca" , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:39:15 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? From: Bob Reed I looked in my collection and found one of these cards but mine has more ofa greenish tint with a grayer back than the one you posted. It also had adifferent copyright symbol and one *. So while you think the set is complete, in reality you're probably only 50% done. -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:18 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles=85=85.and you got a card in each pack of a=93Sicle=94 jet or rocket=85=85=85..there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Until today, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap=85=85=85so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, or anywhere else, so maybe not many survived=85=85=85.on the other hand, they aren=92t in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren=92t worth a whole lot. I=92d be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist=85=85well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a se t completion? Casey would say =93You could look it up=94 but I don=92t know ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 11:49:47 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? From: JAY TYSVER 59 years at one card per year. Another 25 cards to go... By my calculations you should be completing the set in the year 3491. Jay Tysver To: grains@shaw.ca; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 12:39:15 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? I looked in my collection and found one of these cards but mine has more ofa greenish tint with a grayer back than the one you posted. It also had adifferent copyright symbol and one *. So while you think the set is complete, in reality you're probably only 50% done. -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:18 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles=85=85.and you got a card in each pack of a=93Sicle=94 jet or rocket=85=85=85..there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Until today, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap=85=85=85so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, or anywhere else, so maybe not many survived=85=85=85.on the other hand, they aren=92t in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren=92t worth a whole lot. I=92d be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist=85=85well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a se t completion? Casey would say =93You could look it up=94 but I don=92t know ================= To: "'Bob Reed'" , Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 10:28:28 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? From: "Grant Rainsley" I for one would hate to hear that!! I have never seen one #'d higher than 25.....the chap I got the card from is working on his 2nd set....the highest # he has is #25 as well.....he has a friend who is working on a guide to Canadian issues, which will be very welcome here.... and found this on Evilbay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Joe-Lowe-Airplanes-FC-47-1-Trading-Cards-Comple From: Bob Reed [mailto:boreed@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 9:39 AM To: grains@shaw.ca; OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? I looked in my collection and found one of these cards but mine has more of a greenish tint with a grayer back than the one you posted. It also had a different copyright symbol and one *. So while you think the set is complete, in reality you're probably only 50% done. -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:18 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles...and you got a card in each pack of a "Sicle" jet or rocket.....there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Until today, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap...so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, or anywhere else, so maybe not many survived....on the other hand, they aren't in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren't worth a whole lot. I'd be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist..well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a se t completion? Casey would say "You could look it up" but I don't know where....... ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 15:04:52 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Present from me...to me From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, good news for rare card hunting! I celebrated Sunday's 44th birthday by purchasing a type card that has been lingering on eBay for several months, slowly dropping in price as the weeks went by. The dealer first asked $900+ in 2015 and it was a good deal cheaper by Sunday. Today, the 1934 Demaree die-cut #5 of Sam Byrd arrived and even though it came in a slab, it's a great one to have. For people who keep up with vintage "finds," it might even be one of the singles from a recent Demaree shoebox discovery. Next up: a Mariners winning season? That might be even rarer. ;-) ================= To: "grains@shaw.ca" , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 23:06:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? From: Mac Wubben I bet that Grant is crying into his beer right now. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Reed boreed@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:39 PM To: grains@shaw.ca; OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? I looked in my collection and found one of these cards but mine has more ofa greenish tint with a grayer back than the one you posted. It also had adifferent copyright symbol and one *. So while you think the set is complete, in reality you're probably only 50% done. -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:18 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles.......and you got a card in each pack of a"Sicle" jet or rocket...........there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Until today, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap.........so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, or anywhere else, so maybe not many survived..........on the other hand, they aren't in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren't worth a whole lot. I'd be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist......well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a se t completion? Casey would say "You could look it up" but I don't know where................. ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 19:21:26 -0400 To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Subject: Re: Present from me...to me From: Matthew Glidden It's all true, Brian! Can you believe the vintage era is 36 years ago? On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Very cool type card, Matt! > The only part that surprises me is that you claim to be 44. > I'm pretty certain that when we met you were only 26 or so...the time > flies! > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *obc ramblings > *Sent: *April 6, 2016 at 12:05 PM > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] Present from me...to me [1 Attachment] > [Attachment(s) <#m_4248814559571584612_TopText> from Matthew Glidden > included below] > Hi all, good news for rare card hunting! I celebrated Sunday's > 44th birthday by purchasing a type card that has been lingering on eBay for > several months, slowly dropping in price as the weeks went by. The dealer > first asked $900+ in 2015 and it was a good deal cheaper by Sunday. > Today, the 1934 Demaree die-cut #5 of Sam Byrd arrived and even though it > came in a slab, it's a great one to have. For people who keep up with > vintage "finds," it might even be one of the singles from a recent Demaree > shoebox discovery. > Next up: a Mariners winning season? That might be even rarer. ;-) > Spike ================= To: "'Mac Wubben'" , Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 16:31:05 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? From: "Grant Rainsley" Indeed, it's all true.....I tried to search the Archives in Ramblings for the message posted by our departed friend Rick Redpath.....it was many years ago, maybe the old messages get wiped. It was about what he called the "Rainsley Paradigm," whereby every card you get to fill a hole in the binder, making you think you are closer to completion, actually puts you one card farther from ending the task, due to variations and anomalies. It would have been hilarious if it wasn't so true.... From: Mac Wubben [mailto:obcmac@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 4:07 PM To: grains@shaw.ca; OBC Ramblings; Bob Reed Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? I bet that Grant is crying into his beer right now. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Reed boreed@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:39 PM To: grains@shaw.ca; OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? I looked in my collection and found one of these cards but mine has more of a greenish tint with a grayer back than the one you posted. It also had a different copyright symbol and one *. So while you think the set is complete, in reality you're probably only 50% done. -----Original Message----- From: 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] To: 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:18 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So what's the record? In 1959 I ate a lot of popsicles...and you got a card in each pack of a "Sicle" jet or rocket.....there were 25 in the set, and I have had 24 for all these years. Until today, card #25 arrived in the mail via a Net 54 member, and a very kind chap...so by my reckoning it took me approximately 59 years to complete that set. Rarely see this Canadian issue on Evilbay, or anywhere else, so maybe not many survived....on the other hand, they aren't in huge demand except by oddballs like me, so likely aren't worth a whole lot. I'd be surprised if anyone else in OBC has these on their wantlist..well, maybe Mike Rich, not sure there. So whaddaya think? Is 59 years in the running for a se t completion? Casey would say "You could look it up" but I don't know where....... ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 19:33:50 -0400 To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Subject: Re: Present from me...to me From: Matthew Glidden It's all true, Brian! Can you believe the vintage era is 36 years ago? On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Very cool type card, Matt! > The only part that surprises me is that you claim to be 44. > I'm pretty certain that when we met you were only 26 or so...the time > flies! > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *obc ramblings > *Sent: *April 6, 2016 at 12:05 PM > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] Present from me...to me [1 Attachment] > [Attachment(s) <#m_4248814559571584612_TopText> from Matthew Glidden > included below] > Hi all, good news for rare card hunting! I celebrated Sunday's > 44th birthday by purchasing a type card that has been lingering on eBay for > several months, slowly dropping in price as the weeks went by. The dealer > first asked $900+ in 2015 and it was a good deal cheaper by Sunday. > Today, the 1934 Demaree die-cut #5 of Sam Byrd arrived and even though it > came in a slab, it's a great one to have. For people who keep up with > vintage "finds," it might even be one of the singles from a recent Demaree > shoebox discovery. > Next up: a Mariners winning season? That might be even rarer. ;-) > Spike ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 22:03:41 -0400 To: card-variations@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok, it seems I need to make some adjustments to my variations list regarding these cards. From what I have been told and see, there are 5 of each of these team cards: 11- Cubs 72- Phillies 85- Indians 90- Reds 95- Braves 100- Orioles This is where the drinking begins. Each comes as dated, no date name left and no date name center. I want to confirm that the no date left and no date center all come as white or gray backs. NOW break open the tequila... On the trading card database, they list the Cubs as having white or gray on ALL 3 versions. They don't list the other teams as white or gray. Before my mind explodes, can we get a definitive of what those 6 team cards come as? TCDB has pics of the 6 Cubs cards. Do the dated versions ALSO come in white and gray or just the Cubs? http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/37/1956-Topps You got it right, for every card you knock off your list, there are six more you need to add. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 PS- remind me to hit Ken with a wet greenie in AC! ================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 21:24:58 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Who collects 50s non-sports? From: Steve Rittenberg I want to mail out much more than I do now (which is near zero). Finding new homes for baseball and other sports is relatively easy but non-sports are harder. Please tell me if you collect any of these sets. So far I've checked Bob D'Angelo but I know there are more non-sport collectors out there. 1956 Topps Presidents 1956 Topps Flags 1953 Bowman Antique Autos Rails and Sales Power For Peace 1952 Bowman Presidents TV and Radio Stars of NBC World of Wheels Davy Crockett - Orange Davy Crockett - Green 1953 License Plates Who-Z-At star These sets are from a 200 count box which is part of a 300 count box of non-sport dupes. I hope there is much more to follow. Please respond directly and I'll get to work. In the meantime, I'll make some guesses about which lists to check. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 02:23:16 +0000 (UTC) To: dugout traders , Subject: an update on Nicole From: John Dahms I just received a very nice email from one of our trading friends just letting me know he was thinking about us and kindly invited me to holler at him if I needed or wanted to talk. a very kind gesture and I thanked him for it. but it reminded me that I needed to put out another email to the group with an update so here is said update Nicole was sent home the same night of the accident. understandably very sore but at least she was home. her mom and sister travelled down sunday to help get her to appointments and such. her fianc=C3=A9 was able to take Monday and Tuesday off work and her mom is back down til the end of the week. I talk with her via text or call every day and yesterday she said she woke up sore, but in a good mood. which is a very good thing. she is continuing to take the meds for the supposed breast cancer while she heals from the accident. her 3 girls were at there dads moms house until last night. and I think them coming home has doe wonders for their mom. I am home puppy sitting a couple of little 4 legged little ones, sending my thoughts and amazing vibe down her way. we are far from over with this but at least at this point in time she is resting comfortably with her little family. thanks to all of you for your kind thoughts and prayers. we are not out of the woods by a long shot so I would ask if you still keep her in your thoughts and prayers I would consider it a personal favor. I have mentioned all the kind words, emails, texts, phone calls to her and she passes along her in closing I want to say that the doctors told her fianc=C3=A9 that Nicole shouldn't be alive because of the damage and all to the car. he said she must have a guardian angel. I tend to agree be well all John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 23:28:05 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind From: Ken M Sal,  All the info I've seen/heard up to now has the dated versions only with white backs. If someone DOES have a dated grey back, it would be reasonable to assume that all five teams have one - and that it's super rare, like those 1952 2nd series grey backs. Better check those for asterisks while you're at it though, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Wed, Apr 6, 2016 10:03 PMTo: card-variations@yahoogroups.com;Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely Ok, it seems I need to make some adjustments to my variations list regarding these cards. From what I have been told and see, there are 5 of each of these team cards: 11- Cubs72- Phillies85- Indians90- Reds95- Braves100- Orioles This is where the drinking begins. Each comes as dated, no date name left and no date name center. I want to confirm that the no date left and no date center all come as white or gray backs.  NOW break open the tequila... On the trading card database, they list the Cubs as having white or gray on ALL 3 versions. They don't list the other teams as white or gray. Before my mind explodes, can we get a definitive of what those 6 team cards come as? TCDB has pics of the 6 Cubs cards. Do the dated versions ALSO come in white and gray or just the Cubs? http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/37/1956-Topps You got it right, for every card you knock off your list, there are six more you need to add. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 PS- remind me to hit Ken with a wet greenie in AC! ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:13:51 -0400 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely From: Doug I have found a simple solution to solving this and therefore not losing your mind. I simple refuse to acknowledge variations! They don't exist to me. I just finished the 1956 set earlier this year and there is only one team card per team in the lovely, peaceful binder. There is a subset of diseases (admittedly a small minority) that only existin the patients mind. Once one refuses to acknowledge the disease, the cure is self evident. This is one such disease for me. That is my stance on the matter! Doug DeJong (Some day I will likely succumb to the variation disease so if the fever hits in the future me feel free to send this email back my way!) Sent from my iPad > On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:03 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Ok, it seems I need to make some adjustments to my variations list regarding these cards. From what I have been told and see, there are 5 of each ofthese team cards: > 11- Cubs > 72- Phillies > 85- Indians > 90- Reds > 95- Braves > 100- Orioles > This is where the drinking begins. Each comes as dated, no date name leftand no date name center. I want to confirm that the no date left and no date center all come as white or gray backs. > NOW break open the tequila... On the trading card database, they list theCubs as having white or gray on ALL 3 versions. They don't list the other teams as white or gray. Before my mind explodes, can we get a definitive ofwhat those 6 team cards come as? TCDB has pics of the 6 Cubs cards. Do thedated versions ALSO come in white and gray or just the Cubs? > http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/37/1956-Topps > You got it right, for every card you knock off your list, there are six more you need to add. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > PS- remind me to hit Ken with a wet greenie in AC! ================= Date: 07 Apr 2016 07:03:03 -0700 To: Subject: Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 10:26:03 -0400 To: Doug , "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind From: JDahms ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:37:13 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: "Thomas W. Billing" I will be there only on Friday. I have to get to Dayton Saturday evening for a gig. I wish I could stay though. Tom Billing > On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:03 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I would like to get a better idea of who is planning on being at the Strongsville show on Saturday, April 16. Sam probably also wants a count as towho plans on going back to his house afterwards as well. FOOT plans on arriving around high noon. I know a few are still trying to see if they can make it (Nick P will likely be a last minute decider). This likely will beone of the biggest OBC gatherings outside the National this year, potentially reaching double figures. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 09:41:04 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: OBC Nick P I'm not much help. I rarely am. I'll know about noon Friday the 15th if Ican make it. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 7, 2016, at 9:03 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I would like to get a better idea of who is planning on being at the Strongsville show on Saturday, April 16. Sam probably also wants a count as towho plans on going back to his house afterwards as well. FOOT plans on arriving around high noon. I know a few are still trying to see if they can make it (Nick P will likely be a last minute decider). This likely will beone of the biggest OBC gatherings outside the National this year, potentially reaching double figures. > Mike Rich ================= Date: 07 Apr 2016 07:51:49 -0700 To: Subject: Parkhurst Hockey Question From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 10:58:19 -0400 To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely From: Doug DeJong Nope. (Not yet). Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:26 AM, JDahms wrote: > So you did not do the gray and white back I take it? > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 4/7/2016 9:13 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: ChicoD1@aol.com > Cc: card-variations@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely > I have found a simple solution to solving this and therefore not losing your mind. I simple refuse to acknowledge variations! They don't exist to me. I just finished the 1956 set earlier this year and there is only one team card per team in the lovely, peaceful binder. > There is a subset of diseases (admittedly a small minority) that only exist in the patients mind. Once one refuses to acknowledge the disease, the cure is self evident. This is one such disease for me. > That is my stance on the matter! > Doug DeJong > (Some day I will likely succumb to the variation disease so if the fever hits in the future me feel free to send this email back my way!) > Sent from my iPad >> On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:03 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Ok, it seems I need to make some adjustments to my variations list regarding these cards. From what I have been told and see, there are 5 of each of these team cards: >> 11- Cubs >> 72- Phillies >> 85- Indians >> 90- Reds >> 95- Braves >> 100- Orioles >> This is where the drinking begins. Each comes as dated, no date name left and no date name center. I want to confirm that the no date left and no date center all come as white or gray backs. >> NOW break open the tequila... On the trading card database, they list the Cubs as having white or gray on ALL 3 versions. They don't list the otherteams as white or gray. Before my mind explodes, can we get a definitive of what those 6 team cards come as? TCDB has pics of the 6 Cubs cards. Do the dated versions ALSO come in white and gray or just the Cubs? >> http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/37/1956-Topps >> You got it right, for every card you knock off your list, there are six more you need to add. >> Sal Domino >> OBC - 1992 >> PS- remind me to hit Ken with a wet greenie in AC! ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 11:07:06 -0400 To: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Parkhurst Hockey Question From: Joel Freedman I have about ten Parkies in fair condition and have paid between 6-10 dollars for them at card shows. Have not purchased any from Ebay. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:51 AM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hey gang, > Just looking for a little info here. I have a few ebay gift certificates > to use. I was looking into adding to my vintage Chicago Blackhawks > collection. Started looking at some of the Parkhurst from the 50's. I > did an advance search to get a grip on what these are going for. But there > were not a lot of auctions to give me a comfortable number. Still seems > like I can get a decent common for about $5. Not a lot of banged up stuff > that is sold. I see a few listed, but those are about $4 for a poor. > So, a couple of questions to anyone collecting vintage hockey. What kind > of prices have you paid for Parkhurst off ebay? What do you see, if you > see any, at some of the shows? > Any help and info is appreciated. > TJ ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 11:51:50 -0400 To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: ShoelessWes Nolan and i are going Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:03 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I would like to get a better idea of who is planning on being at the Strongsville show on Saturday, April 16. Sam probably also wants a count as towho plans on going back to his house afterwards as well. FOOT plans on arriving around high noon. I know a few are still trying to see if they can make it (Nick P will likely be a last minute decider). This likely will beone of the biggest OBC gatherings outside the National this year, potentially reaching double figures. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 12:12:22 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: Yahoo I will be there Saturday. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 7, 2016, at 11:51, ShoelessWes wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Nolan and i are going > Wes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:03 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I would like to get a better idea of who is planning on being at the Strongsville show on Saturday, April 16. Sam probably also wants a count as to who plans on going back to his house afterwards as well. FOOT plans on arriving around high noon. I know a few are still trying to see if they canmake it (Nick P will likely be a last minute decider). This likely will be one of the biggest OBC gatherings outside the National this year, potentially reaching double figures. >> Mike Rich ================= Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:38:18 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind From: Ken M Don't count on that Doug. Misery loves company! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2016 9:14 AMTo: ChicoD1@aol.com;Cc: card-variations@yahoogroups.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely I have found a simple solution to solving this and therefore not losing your mind.  I simple refuse to acknowledge variations!  They don't exist to me.   I just finished the 1956 set earlier this year and there is only one team card per team in the lovely, peaceful binder. There is a subset of diseases (admittedly a small minority) that only exist in the patients mind. Once one refuses to acknowledge the disease, the cure is self evident.  This is one such disease for me. That is my stance on the matter! Doug DeJong (Some day I will likely succumb to the variation disease so if the fever hits in the future me feel free to send this email back my way!) Sent from my iPad On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:03 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   Ok, it seems I need to make some adjustments to my variations list regarding these cards. From what I have been told and see, there are 5 of each of these team cards: 11- Cubs72- Phillies85- Indians90- Reds95- Braves100- Orioles This is where the drinking begins. Each comes as dated, no date name left and no date name center. I want to confirm that the no date left and no date center all come as white or gray backs.  NOW break open the tequila... On the trading card database, they list the Cubs as having white or gray on ALL 3 versions. They don't list the other teams as white or gray. Before my mind explodes, can we get a definitive of what those 6 team cards come as? TCDB has pics of the 6 Cubs cards. Do the dated versions ALSO come in white and gray or just the Cubs? http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/37/1956-Topps You got it right, for every card you knock off your list, there are six more you need to add. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 PS- remind me to hit Ken with a wet greenie in AC! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 11:42:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind From: JAY TYSVER Will look through Dupes for Team set variations to send to Doug. Jay Tysver To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 12:38:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely Don't count on that Doug. Misery loves company! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]/ p>Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2016 9:14 AMTo: ChicoD1@aol.com;Cc: card-variations@yahoogroups.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely I have found a simple solution to solving this and therefore not losing your mind. I simple refuse to acknowledge variations! They don't exist to me. I just finished the 1956 set earlier this year and there is only one team card per team in the lovely, peaceful binder. There is a subset of diseases (admittedly a small minority) that only existin the patients mind. Once one refuses to acknowledge the disease, the cure is self evident. This is one such disease for me. That is my stance on the matter! Doug DeJong (Some day I will likely succumb to the variation disease so if the fever hits in the future me feel free to send this email back my way!) Sent from my iPad On Apr 6, 2016, at 10:03 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Ok, it seems I need to make some adjustments to my variations list regarding these cards. From what I have been told and see, there are 5 of each of these team cards: 11- Cubs72- Phillies85- Indians90-Reds95- Braves100- Orioles This is where the drinking begins. Each comes as dated, no date name left and no date name center. I want to confirm that the no date left and no date center all come as white or gray backs. NOW break open the tequila... On the trading card database, they list the Cubs as having white or gray on ALL 3 versions. They don't list the other teams as white or gray. Before mymind explodes, can we get a definitive of what those 6 team cards come as?TCDB has pics of the 6 Cubs cards. Do the dated versions ALSO come in white and gray or just the Cubs? http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Errors.cfm/sid/37/1956-Topps You got it right, for every card you knock off your list, thereare six more you need to add. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 PS- remind me to hit Ken with a wet greenie in AC! ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 13:40:14 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Team cards.. or how to lose your mind completely From: Nate Mack Got a response for the variation book. Thought I would pass it along... Dear sir: I see you've come under the variations spell. I can put together a copy of my book for you. To get the ball rolling, I'll require a paypal payment, ormoney order/check in the amount of $30. My address is: Dick Gilkeson, 16448 NW McNamee Rd., Portland, OR 97231 Thank you for your interest. Dick Gilkeson Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 14:43:47 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: JDahms ================= Date: 07 Apr 2016 13:27:08 -0700 To: Subject: Waivers: 4-7 edition From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 20:51:19 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: How to find an address of a former player From: A friend of mine just bequeathed me a great gift. He was a batboy for the Indianapolis Indians, visitor's dugout, back in the early 1960's. He didn't pick up a lot of memorabilia, but did save a few autographed balls, and a few bats that were cracked, and therefore worthless, and his for the taking. His children have absolutely no interest in baseball (where did he go wrong??) and he realizes the sentimental value is much greater than the monetary value for these things. He retired 4 years ago, but we meet for lunch about once a month. Today at our meeting he said he had a present for me in the car--it was a slightly cracked, game used, bat that belonged to Len Gabrielson. I know it is quite authentic, since he got it from Len after he cracked it in a game. Still has part of his name written on the knob of the bat. So, the reason for this note. I thought it would be neat if I could get Len to autograph it for me. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to contact him. I tried web searching, did find one site that purports to give you addresses if you join, but I'm quite skeptical. I figured that this group has one of the widest ranges of baseball knowledge out there. If I had to guess, I'd guess he lives in California, since that is where he went to high school and college, but then again, I grew up in Philadelphia and now live in North Carolina. The "wow it's a small world" answer would be if someone said "Len, what a coincidence, he lives in the house behind mine", but I'm not holding my breath on that. Any thoughts? Bob N. ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 21:54:57 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Len Gabrielson's address--that was fast. From: Many thanks to Mark, James and Ed, who all responded, and wonderfully enough, all with the same address! I had planned on writing to Mr. Gabrielson first, and asking him if he would mind signing it. I had looked him up and learned that his father played briefly in 1939--with none other than my beloved (and lately beleaguered) Phillies. I was actually hoping that he might reside somewhere on the east coast, so that perhaps I could stop off in person, but alas, California it is. Again, many thanks, ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 19:26:06 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Chantilly From: Andy I'm going tomorrow afternoon. Who else? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 07 Apr 2016 16:38:48 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 23:03:14 -0400 To: jefreedman1@gmail.com, tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Parkhurst Hockey Question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I rarely go on Ebay as I am able to go to a good number of shows. Unfortunately, I am missing the Toronto show this weekend. Normally it is the first full weekend of May, but they moved this up and I have too many things going on this weekend. That said, the prices on Parkies vary greatly in the 50s, as commons book for at least $50 for 1951-52 to around $20 for 1959-60. Since you are only collecting Black Hawks, your challenge is not as great, since a few of the years are only Montreal and Toronto, and other years they would add in the Red Wings. Without looking it up, I think the Black Hawks would only be in the 1951-52 -- 1954-55. Witht he current strength of the US dollar, you may be able to get them for around 15% of book in G-VG-. My experience is that the Canadian dealers do not tend to mark their less than mint cards down as much as US dealers. If you can get 1951-52 for $7.50, 1952-53 for $5, 1953-54 for $4 and 1954-55 for $3.50 you would be doing very well in G - VG. Hope this helps. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: TJ Valacak Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 7, 2016 11:07 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Parkhurst Hockey Question I have about ten Parkies in fair condition and have paid between 6-10 dollars for them at card shows. Have not purchased any from Ebay. On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:51 AM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Hey gang, Just looking for a little info here. I have a few ebay gift certificates to use. I was looking into adding to my vintage Chicago Blackhawks collection. Started looking at some of the Parkhurst from the 50's. I did an advance search to get a grip on what these are going for. But there were not a lot of auctions to give me a comfortable number. Still seems like I can get a decent common for about $5. Not a lot of banged up stuff that is sold. I see a few listed, but those are about $4 for a poor. So, a couple of questions to anyone collecting vintage hockey. What kind of prices have you paid for Parkhurst off ebay? What do you see, if you seeany, at some of the shows? Any help and info is appreciated. ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 12:25:02 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Card search From: Yahoo Some one asked me about this card, they said its on a checklist but they have never seen one. And never found anybody that's ever seen one. Anyone ever seen this card. 1939 Father & Son Shoes Emmett Mueller. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 16:39:24 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: non sports question From: John Dahms to all you non sports guys. I just won an auction with some low end stuff on a couple of sets I have been wanting to start. excited to get them early next week. my question is how hard is the 52 wings, 53 bowman fire fighters and 55 rails and sails sets to do? just curious as to what I am getting myself in for. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 10:08:52 -0700 To: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] non sports question From: Stamper I just completed the Wings set. Not very hard to do. The Bowman Firefighterset seems a little pricey, but I'm slowly moving on it. The Rails and Sails set I'm just starting. I see plenty of them out there. Always nice to have more Non Sports collectors. John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Apr 8, 2016, at 9:39 AM, "John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > to all you non sports guys. I just won an auction with some low end stuffon a couple of sets I have been wanting to start. excited to get them early next week. my question is how hard is the > 52 wings, > 53 bowman fire fighters > and 55 rails and sails sets to do? > just curious as to what I am getting myself in for. > thanks > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 16:51:11 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: in case you missed it...... From: Joel Freedman ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 20:42:57 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Chantilly show From: Anthony Hello all, Just came back from the show and meet up with andy cook, mac Wubben and Ed scott. I was able to nail some 53 highs knocking off a bunch at kurts and uncle dicks tables plus a bunch of black and white bios. Then finished the 75 hostess set with three finds and Mac giving the last so in need since he got to the dealers table first and scored some killer hits for a great price. Scored some 67 highs including a Stanley for $15. Cut into my 64 philly fb set along with the 51 magic and 61 topps. Was able to snag a sp 63 post for $4 ....nice. Then made a dent in the 59 and 60 back variations. Mac also gave me some 72 opc with a Robinson in the mix. Overall nice day Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2016 21:21:14 -0400 To: Anthony , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Chantilly show From: JDahms ================= Date: 08 Apr 2016 18:32:58 -0700 To: Subject: Strongsville Waivers- Day 1 From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 02:07:31 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: waiver wire and gremlin plea From: Rob Bessette Following cards are up for grabs... 1950 Bowman - 691954 Topps - 26, 33, 41 1958 Topps - 184 1959 Topps - 275, 311, 328, 402, 437, 443 1963 Topps - 424 1969 Deckle Edge - 15 And if anyone has a 1962 Topps #161 Frank Baumann I just found out that the one in my set is the green tint and I'm hoping to get the normal version. ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:35:55 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: JEdward@aol.com Content-Language: en Mike, Ranaye and I plan to arrive Friday afternoon to visit our son Jason. I'll be at the show on Saturday and I hope to get some time in on Friday as well. We'll have to head home Saturday afternoon so we won't be able to visit at Sam's house. John McLaughlin In a message dated 4/7/2016 10:03:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I would like to get a better idea of who is planning on being at the Strongsville show on Saturday, April 16. Sam probably also wants a count as who plans on going back to his house afterwards as well. FOOT plans on arriving around high noon. I know a few are still trying to see if they can make it (Nick P will likely be a last minute decider). This likely will be one of the biggest OBC gatherings outside the National this year, potentially reaching double figures. Mike Rich ================= To: Rob Bessette , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 21:53:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] waiver wire and gremlin plea From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:55:47 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] waiver wire and gremlin plea From: Rob Bessette Someone has already solved my 62 gremlin. So I guess the 58 will just have to be free for you! Thanks so much. > On Apr 8, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Aaron Shirley wrote: > Rob > I have a 62 Baumann corrected. I'll "trade" it for the 58 Topps #184 if you still have it. If it's already been promised to someone, well then, I guess this one'll just have to be free! > Aaron ================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 23:03:41 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Waivers- Day 1 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Good thing that all expected attendees, other than Nick P., are driving in.Do you have a rare Feller postcard variation? If you are not familiar with the rare variation, it would be UNsigned. Feller must have been the single most prolific signer in baseball history. I am sure someone at the gathering at Sam's will take it off your hands. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 8, 2016 9:33 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Waivers- Day 1 I will be offering up larger items from my collection that I do not want toship, but will happily hand off at the Strongsville show next weekend. First item: Bob Feller signed postcard in a small frame. This thread will be updated daily- if you are going to Strongsville, you may request any of these waiver items! ================= To: "obc" Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 05:49:02 -0500 Subject: best way to search Ebay question From: "ken goetsch" I probably should know how to do this better.............But I find it "difficult" to search on eBay for non sports cards.........what area is best tofind both vintage and uv.....is it in the "entertainment" area or is it in"toys and hobbies" area...or something else? Thanks in advance for your any response. From..."not the brightest search bulb" Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 07:20:04 -0400 To: ken goetsch , obc Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 08:09:46 -0500 To: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question From: Jay Tysver I do this under the category collectibles>> trading cards (1975,1976,1977,1969,1970,1971,1972,1973,1974) (lot,set,different,starter,partial) You can change the years or take out starter or partial if it is too long or you can have "complete set". The parenthesis can be removed if it is onlya single term. You can also add this -(term,term 2) if you wish to eliminate multiple terms or simply -term if you wish to eliminate a single term. On Apr 9, 2016, at 7:43 AM, "Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > My two cents, for what it's worth. I never search anything by category since that's dependent on sellers doing things consistently (pausing for thelaughter to stop). I always just type the set that I"m looking for in thebig search bar at the top of the ebay page. Try entering "You'll die laughing cards" or "1977 Charlie's Angels cards" or "1956 flags of the world" -this will search all categories for hits. Play around with it. You may or may not need to include the word "cards"; for my Charlie's Angels exampleyou probably would ... for Flags of the World - not necessarily. > Hope this helps. > Mike Mackie > From: "'ken goetsch' kshoes@charter.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: obc > Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 5:49 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question > I probably should know how to do this better.............But I find it "difficult" to search on eBay for non sports cards.........what area is best to find both vintage and uv.....is it in the "entertainment" area or is it in "toys and hobbies" area...or something else? > Thanks in advance for your any response. > From..."not the brightest search bulb" > Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 09:18:21 -0400 To: Jay Tysver Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question From: Anthony I do both below....... Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jay Tysver JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I do this under the category collectibles>> trading cards > (1975,1976,1977,1969,1970,1971,1972,1973,1974) (lot,set,different,starter,partial) > You can change the years or take out starter or partial if it is too longor you can have "complete set". The parenthesis can be removed if it is only a single term. You can also add this -(term,term 2) if you wish to eliminate multiple terms or simply -term if you wish to eliminate a single term. > JAY >> On Apr 9, 2016, at 7:43 AM, "Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> My two cents, for what it's worth. I never search anything by category since that's dependent on sellers doing things consistently (pausing for the laughter to stop). I always just type the set that I"m looking for in the big search bar at the top of the ebay page. Try entering "You'll die laughing cards" or "1977 Charlie's Angels cards" or "1956 flags of the world" - this will search all categories for hits. Play around with it. You may or may not need to include the word "cards"; for my Charlie's Angels example you probably would ... for Flags of the World - not necessarily. >> Hope this helps. >> Mike Mackie >> From: "'ken goetsch' kshoes@charter.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> To: obc >> Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 5:49 AM >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question >> I probably should know how to do this better.............But I find it "difficult" to search on eBay for non sports cards.........what area is bestto find both vintage and uv.....is it in the "entertainment" area or is itin "toys and hobbies" area...or something else? >> Thanks in advance for your any response. >> From..."not the brightest search bulb" >> Ken Goetsch ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 14:19:30 +0000 Subject: Mini-show report From: Mac Wubben Fellow Rockvillian Ant Arbeeny gracioiusly picked me up from home...and we headed out to the Chantilly show. Not surprisingly Ant had a few cards forme...4 53 Bowmans and a tough 75 hostess. Got to the show...ran into Andyand chatted for a bit before meeting up with a few net54 guys that I hadn't met (anybody seen a victory tobacco Walter Johnson before...whoa). The show wasn't spectacular, but I managed to make some good progress. Some neatly sorted hostess cards landed a bunch of hits...finishing off the 76 Hostess set finding about 15 tough 75's...leaving me at only 3 75's to completethe entire run of hostess (85 Kingman 98 Darwin 120 Freehan). Ran into OBC'er Ed Schott at the show as well, always good to hear the update on his 1965 9-set quest and listen to the Orioles prospects for the year. Obc dealer favorite Kurt Turdot was there as well...good to see him recovering. The find of the show was a stack of 9 1915 Cracker Jacks for $100, including a couple non-beaters, and one hit to my very short list. Quite a deal on those. Ant spotted a 77 Topps cloth Rose I needed to finish off that set, so I went over and grabbed it...two sets down. That's about it...the National will be next up for me...looking forward to it. Thanks Ant, Andy and Eddie...always great to hang with you guys. ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:45:16 -0400 To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com, JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question From: Mike Glasser All those work and you should do them all. As well, I find that certain sellers are more consistent - better cards, better condition, better pricing - so I have my 'go-to' sellers that I've used over the years. You can savethem in your favorite seller listings. Certainly more haphazard but I think it is fun to shop that way and just see what comes up. You should also be sorting by 'ending soonest' to get the best deals. You can also use the advanced search to search for cards that have already sold and what they sold for helping you to find the sellers that have what you want at the price that you are looking for. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Jay Tysver Cc: Mike Mackie ; ken goetsch ;obc Sent: Sat, Apr 9, 2016 9:18 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question I do both below....... Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Jay Tysver JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] I do this under the category collectibles>> trading cards (1975,1976,1977,1969,1970,1971,1972,1973,1974) (lot,set,different,starter,partial) You can change the years or take out starter or partial if it is too long or you can have "complete set". The parenthesis can be removed if it is onlya single term. You can also add this -(term,term 2) if you wish to eliminate multiple terms or simply -term if you wish to eliminate a single term. On Apr 9, 2016, at 7:43 AM, "Mike Mackie macknife13@prodigy.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: My two cents, for what it's worth. I never search anything by category since that's dependent on sellers doing things consistently (pausing for the laughter to stop). I always just type the set that I"m looking for in the big search bar at the top of the ebay page. Try entering "You'll die laughing cards" or "1977 Charlie's Angels cards" or "1956 flags of the world" - this will search all categories for hits. Play around with it. You may or may not need to include the word "cards"; for my Charlie's Angels example you probably would ... for Flags of the World - not necessarily. Hope this hel ps. Mike Mackie From: "'ken goetsch' kshoes@charter.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: obc Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 5:49 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] best way to search Ebay question I probably should know how to do this better.............But I find it "difficult" to search on eBay for non sports cards.........what area is best tofind both vintage and uv.....is it in the "entertainment" area or is it in"toys and hobbies" area...or something else? Thanks in advance for your any response. From..."not the brightest search bulb" Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 16:15:20 +0000 (UTC) To: "Dahms, John" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] non sports question From: tvalacak@comcast.net I collect the 55 Topps Rails only. Linda Fitak got me started on this set, which was my very first non-sport set I ever listed. (At one time, I only collected train cards in the non-sport sector). It has been a fun set to getafter, and I have been sitting at three cards left for a while. There are some short prints, at least on the rails side. The three left for me are all short prints. I have no idea what the sails are like, but I would imagineyou would have some sp's there as well. I remember getting a nice batch ofthese from Uncle Dick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "OBC ramblings" Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 11:39:24 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] non sports question to all you non sports guys. I just won an auction with some low end stuff on a couple of sets I have been wanting to start. excited to get them early next week. my question is how hard is the 52 wings, 53 bowman fire fighters and 55 rails and sails sets to do? just curious as to what I am getting myself in for. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 10:30:16 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vacation From: Rick Me and my wife decided to drive to Reno for our spring break. Stopped off at Brian's three hours in the trip spent the day with him as stated a few days ago. We spent two days in Reno then decided to go to Lake Tahoe and stayed a couple days there. We visited Virginia city, Carson city drove all around the lake had a great time. Yesterday left the hotel at 5:30 am and drove all day only stopping for gas and pulled in the yard at 8:30 pm. Switchedvehicles drove to the ferry made it at 8:59 got the 9:00 ferry so made it to the island at 9:30. 16 hours driving but made it home. Had a great time probably to short of a vacation for that much traveling but we want to go to the island for a couple days since its been a month ago when we were herelast. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 19:14:07 +0000 (UTC) To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] non sports question From: talbot1@comcast.net Wings set - easy Fire Fighters - tough Sails & Rails - SP's and HI numbers make it higher priced but attainable. GOOD LUCK!!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "OBC ramblings" Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 12:39:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] non sports question to all you non sports guys. I just won an auction with some low end stuff on a couple of sets I have been wanting to start. excited to get them early next week. my question is how hard is the 52 wings, 53 bowman fire fighters and 55 rails and sails sets to do? just curious as to what I am getting myself in for. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 09 Apr 2016 13:52:28 -0700 To: Subject: Strongsville Waiver Wire: Day 2 From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 22:46:18 +0000 (UTC) To: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects 50s non-sports? From: talbot1@comcast.net Hello Steve, I think you already know that I have placed a number of non-sports sets on my want-list. Here are the lists from the sets you indicated you have some dupes: 1952 BOWMAN NBC TV & Radio Stars (any condition) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36. 1952 Bowman Presidents (any condition) 1952 Bowman Presidents - UPGRADES (VG or better) 3, 11, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 23 and 32. 1953 Bowman Antique Autos - Looking for a starter lot 1953 BOWMAN NBC TV & Radio Stars (any condition) 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 32, 34, 36, 37, 41, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 52, 53, 54, 55, 57, 62, 64,65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 96. 1953 License Plates - Looking for a starter lot 1953 TOPPS WHO Z-AT STAR (any condition) 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 18, 22, 23, 24, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 32, 33, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 52, 53, 54, 56, 57, 58, 60, 61, 63, 64, 65, 66, 68, 69, 70, 72, 76, 77, 78. 1953 Topps Wings (VG or better condition) - Completed. 1953 - 54 Topps World of Wheels (any condition) 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 172, 173, 174, 177, 178, 179, 1954 Bowman Power for Peace (any condition) 7, 8, 11, 15, 23, 24, 27, 30-up, 42, 59, 66. 1955 TOPPS RAILS & SAILS (any condition) 34, 51, 56-up, 64, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 136-up, 137, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 189, 190, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 198, 199, 200. 1956 Topps Davy Crockett - Orange back (any condition) - Completed. 1956 Topps Davy Crockett - Green back (any condition) 1A, 23A, 42A, 49A, 67A. 1956 TOPPS Flags of the World (VG or better) - Completed. 1956 Topps Presidents (any condition) 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 18, 21, 28, 30, 32, 33, 34 and 35. 1956 TOPPS Round-up (any condition) 1, 5-up, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, 21, 24, 26, 29, 37, 39, 45, 47, 51-up, 53, 55,57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 65, 66, 67, 68, 70, 74, 75, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88. Thanks for looking and any help on these you can provide - BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ------------------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:24:58 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Who collects 50s non-sports? I want to mail out much more than I do now (which is near zero). Finding new homes for baseball and other sports is relatively easy but non-sports are harder. Please tell me if you collect any of these sets. So far I've checked Bob D'Angelo but I know there are more non-sport collectors out there. 1956 Topps Presidents 1956 Topps Flags 1953 Bowman Antique Autos Rails and Sales Power For Peace 1952 Bowman Presidents TV and Radio Stars of NBC World of Wheels Davy Crockett - Orange Davy Crockett - Green 1953 License Plates Who-Z-At star These sets are from a 200 count box which is part of a 300 count box of non-sport dupes. I hope there is much more to follow. Please respond directly and I'll get to work. In the meantime, I'll make some guesses about which lists to check. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 22:42:07 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 75 opc lot From: Anthony Just sharing http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-O-Pee-Chee-OPC-baseball-cards-lot-w-STARS-partial-set-235-different-/201549998175?hashitem2eed50e85f:g:QusAAOSwKtlWkYD= Anyone buys look me up for trades Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 00:30:06 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chantilly show From: ChicoD1@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 06:38:16 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Ramble on and on... From: familytoad@comcast.net will ramble nonetheless.

A card came in from a Net54 BST deal today. It was 1956 Roberto Clemente. One of the last cards I need to close out the non52 decade. I picked up Mac's envelope yesterday which I mentioned onthe Thanks Server, it had a Runnels 1952.

That leaves my version ofthe Run at Twelve Dozen, or a mere 144. I'm happy.
This run will end in 2017 I think, my goal is 72 more this year.

I have considered buying a full 67 Topps set so that I don't have to piecemeal those last 30 highnumbers. I am not too smart.

I won a auction card that came in thisweek. A nice 1941 Playball Ted Williams. When I was in Phoenix, I counted 40 or 41 cards on display at the museum , Ken Kendrick's Ultimate Card Collection. This new addition gives me 15 of those 40. I will post on my page the other 25 that I need. OBCers...Don't send them all at once, I want this quest to last a while.

I officially mowed my lawn every month of thepast year , April to April.
I don't know why anyone would care, but mowing in January or December is rare here in Washington.
Today's mowing seemed to be 80% grass and 20% Pollen.

Edddddieee's Orioles got snowed out today in their quest for a 5-0 start. Are they good this year?

Phillies finally won while the Braves continued to lose. I was afraid it was going to be a winless year and now we aren't even in last place :-) (yet)

Trevor Story was drafted by crafty Lynn Miller in our fantasy baseball league. How does Lynn do it? He is kinda like the most interesting guy in the world...

My son and I ripped a bunch of 2016 Topps. We should have a base set after all this tearing, but the inserts are ridiculous. Best looking cards in awhile from Topps, and I really don't collect UV. Well maybe I do.

Red Wings backed into the playoffs this year, but theyhave made it every year since I was married (plus one). They start the year against Steve Yzerman' s Tampa Bay Lightning. I am not confident.

Black Sabbath was announced to play at the County Fairgrounds (right down the road from my house) later this summer. I haven't seen that band in 36 years, but I play their albums about once a week. I wonder if Ozzie will stumble into my yard by accident.

I don't usually watch NBA , but my boy likes the Warriors. 71-9 after tonight. They shoot good, but basketball has changed since I was a fan of the Baltimore Bullets (the Big E, Wes, Bingand Chenier). I like hockey far better....

I thought these allergy pills were non-drowsy ....nope. I am very sleepy.

I bet this ramble put you to sleep too. Good Night!

OBC Forever,
Brian









Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 15:41:30 -0400 To: JEdward@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville Saturday April 16 From: Jimi Thayer The rumor is that I'll be there from Thursday through Sunday! Wrong side of the table though..... :) Sent from my iPad > On Apr 8, 2016, at 10:35 PM, JEdward@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Mike, Ranaye and I plan to arrive Friday afternoon to visit our son Jason. I'll be at the show on Saturday and I hope to get some time in on Fridayas well. We'll have to head home Saturday afternoon so we won't be able to visit at Sam's house. > John McLaughlin > In a message dated 4/7/2016 10:03:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > I would like to get a better idea of who is planning on being at the Strongsville show on Saturday, April 16. Sam probably also wants a count as towho plans on going back to his house afterwards as well. FOOT plans on arriving around high noon. I know a few are still trying to see if they can make it (Nick P will likely be a last minute decider). This likely will beone of the biggest OBC gatherings outside the National this year, potentially reaching double figures. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 16:23:48 -0500 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: Issue [2 Attachments] From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:41:54 -0400 To: Aaron Shirley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Issue From: "Thomas W. Billing" Must have missed this fact. I will cc COMC on this so they know that this guy has a bad precedent. I noticed that he NEVER accepted an offer from me before. If a guy wants to not accept offers, it just needs to pop up that way to start with like Deans Cards does. This way I know never to make an offer and just buy it or pass. Thanks for getting back. > On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > That's the same guy we've talked about doing this before! Kick him off the site, I say! > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2016, at 4:08 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> Guys: >> Here is an email I sent to COMC just now. About an hour ago I placed the bids in the top screen shot. It was rejected and then I was ready to paythe price but saw what is in the bottom screen shot. This was >> JoelsHitShow >> I consider this seller to be pretty unethical and stand by my comment about the gas companies jacking up prices on 9/11. >> Tom Billing >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> From: "Thomas W. Billing" > >>> Subject: Issue >>> Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:03:58 PM EDT >>> To: COMC > >>> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had placed thebids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer rejected. >>> >>> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked upon the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it is a major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Thomas W. Billing > , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 75 opc lot From: Patrick Prickett Too funny Ant - that's mine. All - I bought a large lot and just trying torecoupsome of my money. Even after this lot I do have a small group of extras - so I'll look at your list Ant. On Saturday, April 9, 2016 7:42 PM, "Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: Just sharing http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-O-Pee-Chee-OPC-baseball-cards-lot-w-STARS-partial-set-235-different-/201549998175?hashitem2eed50e85f:g:QusAAOSwKtlWkYD= Anyone buys look me up for trades Sent from my iPad Posted by: Anthony The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouragedon Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGSserver, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:15:47 -0500 To: Ramblings Subject: 1956 gray / white variations From: Steve Rittenberg Everyone knows about the 1956 white and gray stock variations. I built my set years ago by taking a relatively easy route. 1-100 was in one stock, 101-180 was in the other. And then 181-340 had no variations. I cannot remember which are scarcer. Is it gray is scarcer ice Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:25:40 -0500 To: Ramblings Subject: Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations From: Steve Rittenberg Ugh. Hit send prematurely. Which series are scarcer? Gray in the first series or white? [1-100]. And the opposite for the second series. [101-180]. A quick answer would be cool. I'm trying to figure out what I can take from Nate Mack's dupes box. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Steve Rittenberg > Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:15:47 PM CDT > To: Ramblings > Subject: 1956 gray / white variations > Everyone knows about the 1956 white and gray stock variations. I built my set years ago by taking a relatively easy route. 1-100 was in one stock,101-180 was in the other. And then 181-340 had no variations. > I cannot remember which are scarcer. Is it gray is scarcer ice > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:06:16 -0400 To: mzentko@yahoo.com, billingtw@sbcglobal.net, uthminsta@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Issue From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Why not everyone who is so inclined send an Email to COMC citing his unethical behavior? I guess if they got 50 Emails they would deep six this creep. Best regards, In a message dated 04/10/2016 7:15:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: yes that has happened to me before I avoid unless he is the cheapest on the board without sending an offer mark zentkovich From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: Aaron Shirley Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Issue Must have missed this fact. I will cc COMC on this so they know that this guy has a bad precedent. I noticed that he NEVER accepted an offer from me before. If a guy wants to not accept offers, it just needs to pop up that way to start with like Deans Cards does. This way I know never to make an offer and just buy it or pass. Thanks for getting back. On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Aaron Shirley _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: That's the same guy we've talked about doing this before! Kick him off the site, I say! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2016, at 4:08 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' _billingtw@ sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:billingtw@sbcglobal.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Here is an email I sent to COMC just now. About an hour ago I placed the bids in the top screen shot. It was rejecte d and then I was ready to pay the price but saw what is in the bottom screen shot. This was I consider this seller to be pretty unethical and stand by my comment about the gas companies jacking up prices on 9/11. Tom Billing Begin forwarded message: From: "Thomas W. Billing" <_billingtw@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:billingtw@sbcglobal.net) > Subject: Issue Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:03:58 PM EDT To: COMC <_staff@comc.com_ (mailto:staff@comc.com) > I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had placed the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it is a major flaw in your system if it is permitted. Thank you, Thomas W. Billing ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:21:26 -0400 To: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Issue From: "Thomas W. Billing" You are spot on and I have already sent three emails to COMC today with screen shots showing what he did. There is strength in numbers and you are right that a lot of guys griping to them may force them to establish a new =E2=9Cthree strikes=E2=9D policy for sellers who act like Martin Skrelli. Go for it! Tom Billing > On Apr 10, 2016, at 8:06 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Why not everyone who is so inclined send an Email to COMC citing his unethical behavior? I guess if they got 50 Emails they would deep six this creep. > Best regards, > Chuck > In a message dated 04/10/2016 7:15:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > yes that has happened to me before > I avoid unless he is the cheapest on the board without sending an offer > mark zentkovich > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: Aaron Shirley > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Issue > Must have missed this fact. I will cc COMC on this so they know that this guy has a bad precedent. > I noticed that he NEVER accepted an offer from me before. If a guy wantsto not accept offers, it just needs to pop up that way to start with like Deans Cards does. This way I know never to make an offer and just buy it or > Thanks for getting back. >> On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> That's the same guy we've talked about doing this before! Kick him off the site, I say! >> Aaron >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 10, 2016, at 4:08 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@ sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >>> Guys: >>> Here is an email I sent to COMC just now. About an hour ago I placed the bids in the top screen shot. It was rejecte d and then I was ready to pay the price but saw what is in the bottom screen shot. This was >>> JoelsHitShow >>> I consider this seller to be pretty unethical and stand by my comment about the gas companies jacking up prices on 9/11. >>> Tom Billing >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> From: "Thomas W. Billing" > >>>> Subject: Issue >>>> Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:03:58 PM EDT >>>> To: COMC > >>>> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had placed the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer rejected. >>>> >>>> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11 attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it is a major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Thomas W. Billing/ span> >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations From: Ken M Steve,  I'm late, but I'll pass on the info anyway. Maybe someone else will think, "Hey! That'll be really cool to collect a set and a half of 56 Topps!"  The grey backs are less common from 1-100 and the white backs are even less common than that from 101-180... and ...And ...AND there's five (5) versions of the 5 lowest numbered team cards (Reds, Braves, Cubs, O's and Phils if memory serves). Centered and left justified come in both white and grey, while the dated ones only come with white backs. Have fun! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 6:25 PMTo: Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations Ugh.  Hit send prematurely.   Which series are scarcer?  Gray in the first series or white?  [1-100].  And the opposite for the second series.  [101-180].  A quick answer would be cool.  I'm trying to figure out what I can take from Nate Mack's dupes box.   Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Steve Rittenberg Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:15:47 PM CDT To: Ramblings Subject: 1956 gray / white variations Everyone knows about the 1956 white and gray stock variations.  I built my set years ago by taking a relatively easy route.  1-100 was in one stock, 101-180 was in the other.  And then 181-340 had no variations. I cannot remember which are scarcer.  Is it gray is scarcer ice Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:38:46 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations From: "Thomas W. Billing" Weren't the Indians a 6th card with the shifty title? Tom Biling Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2016, at 9:31 PM, "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Steve, > I'm late, but I'll pass on the info anyway. Maybe someone else will think, "Hey! That'll be really cool to collect a set and a half of 56 Topps!" > The grey backs are less common from 1-100 and the white backs are even less common than that from 101-180... and ...And ...AND there's five (5) versions of the 5 lowest numbered team cards (Reds, Braves, Cubs, O's and Phils if memory serves). Centered and left justified come in both white and grey, while the dated ones only come with white backs. Have fun! > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 6:25 PM > To: Ramblings; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations > Ugh. Hit send prematurely. Which series are scarcer? Gray in the first series or white? [1-100]. And the opposite for the second series. [101-180]. > A quick answer would be cool. I'm trying to figure out what I can take from Nate Mack's dupes box. > Thanks! > Steve > Sent from my iPhone > Begin forwarded message: >> From: Steve Rittenberg >> Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:15:47 PM CDT >> To: Ramblings >> Subject: 1956 gray / white variations >>> Everyone knows about the 1956 white and gray stock variations. I builtmy set years ago by taking a relatively easy route. 1-100 was in one stock, 101-180 was in the other. And then 181-340 had no variations. >>> I cannot remember which are scarcer. Is it gray is scarcer ice >>> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:54:20 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations From: Ken M Tom is correct. There are six team cards in the 1-100 series. There are five in the 101-180 series with white and grey backs, but no funny business with the team name on the front. (Red Sox, Pirates, Cards, Nationals and Dodgers). Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Thomas W. BillingDate: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 9:39 PMTo: Ken M;Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations Weren't the Indians a 6th card with the shifty title? Tom Biling Sent from my iPad On Apr 10, 2016, at 9:31 PM, "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote:   Steve,  I'm late, but I'll pass on the info anyway. Maybe someone else will think, "Hey! That'll be really cool to collect a set and a half of 56 Topps!"  The grey backs are less common from 1-100 and the white backs are even less common than that from 101-180... and ...And ...AND there's five (5) versions of the 5 lowest numbered team cards (Reds, Braves, Cubs, O's and Phils if memory serves). Centered and left justified come in both white and grey, while the dated ones only come with white backs. Have fun! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Sun, Apr 10, 2016 6:25 PMTo: Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1956 gray / white variations Ugh.  Hit send prematurely.   Which series are scarcer?  Gray in the first series or white?  [1-100].  And the opposite for the second series.  [101-180].  A quick answer would be cool.  I'm trying to figure out what I can take from Nate Mack's dupes box.   Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Steve Rittenberg Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:15:47 PM CDT To: Ramblings Subject: 1956 gray / white variations Everyone knows about the 1956 white and gray stock variations.  I built my set years ago by taking a relatively easy route.  1-100 was in one stock, 101-180 was in the other.  And then 181-340 had no variations. 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The auction house is reputable and is located near me so if you win something I'd be glad to take delivery and ship -- and save you that headache. http://www.blackrockgalleries.com/sales/vintage-toy-cars-108.html ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:03:38 -0400 To: Jake Elwell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OT: vintage toy cars auction From: Andy Huntoon Awesome. I always liked the old Tootsie Toys with the white rubber tires. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > If anyone collects vintage toy cars this looks like a very impressive collection up for auction. The auction house is reputable and is located near me so if you win something I'd be glad to take delivery and ship -- and save you that headache. > Cheers, > Jake > http://www.blackrockgalleries.com/sales/vintage-toy-cars-108.html > __________________________________________________________ ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 18:37:07 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: expansion From: nick pelletier After hearing the bad news that my list is once again "hard to hit" ive been working on an expansion. Whats new on there: 1961-63 Post baseball, 1970-80 Kelloggs baseball, 1959 Fleer, 1941 double play, 1952-55 red man baseball, 1969 deckle edge, 1964-67 Philly football, 1973-77 OPC WHA hockey, 1972 OPC Team Canada and Player Crests, and Parkhurst hockey from 1951-1963/4 and 1957 topps basketball. A couple thousand cards with some variety. Hopefully I dont get that hard to hit curse again for a while. Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: 11 Apr 2016 12:55:25 -0700 To: Subject: hypothetical collection idea From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 11 Apr 2016 13:42:48 -0700 To: Subject: Thank you Joel From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:56:04 -0500 To: COMC Subject: Re: Issue From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 23:53:43 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: vintage non sports page added From: John Dahms hey all, I received a box of non sports I won at auction today. very coolcards if I do say so myself..and I do...so after looking through them I decided to add a nonsports page to my site.... I really don't have any dupes for these yet except the wheels set but if you have any you want to get rid of I will list my needs. thanks in advance.and if you have a wheels set you are working on I have a stack nothing higher than 122 though here are my lists for the 4 sets 54 world of wheels 65 105 107 119 124 126 138 143 144 151 154 155 156 157 158 161 on up 55 rails and sails 2 11 20 25 27 28 30 36 39 44 46 47 49 53 55 58 63 65 6971 76 79-200 53 bowman firefighters 2 3 5 6 7 8 10 13 17 23 24 27 31 32 37 38 39 40 41 42 48 50 52 57 58 59 60 61 63 64 52 topps wings 1-59 61-68 70-101 103 104 105 106 109-118 120 121 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 121 132 133 134 135 137 139 140 141 142 144 145 146 147 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168169 170 171 172 173 175 176 177 179 180 181 182 183 184 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 thanks for the look and peace out! John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 11 Apr 2016 17:43:56 -0700 To: Subject: Strongsville attendees From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:51:33 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville attendees From: "Thomas W. Billing" I=E2=99ll be there Friday an staying over night but I have to leave Saturday Tom Billing > On Apr 11, 2016, at 8:43 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I was hoping we might have a few more guys planning on going, but as of now, the attendee list is below. Please let us know of any changes or corrections to do this. > Attending: > Sam Taylor > Ron Perry > Ed Hutchinson > Tom Housley > Wes & Nolan Shepard > Jerry Barnes > John McLaughlin (will be at the show, but not going back to Sam's afterwards) > Jimi Thayer > Mike Rich > Possible: > Nick Pelletier > Have Not Heard From: > Joe Isaac > Bill Malson > Larry Gersbach > Not Attending: > Mark Talbot > John Dahms > Tom Billing ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 21:55:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Issue From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en <--Brought it up before to them too... Just amazing Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/11/2016 6:56:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: It is good to know Joel does actually accept some offers. Thank you for that information. But to remind disgruntled buyers that a seller's prices may be out of date doesn't cut it. It's common sense: If a seller is unable to maintain prices on their products, it is their own responsibility to change their practices. Put plainly: Bait-and-switch is not a legitimate practice. To restate that: if JoelsHitShow can't keep up with his inventory, he needs to change his business plan. Waiting for an offer and THEN changing prices is NOT the way to keep up. There are plenty of other ways, but honestly, you and I are both smart enough to know this is SHADY. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:43 PM, COMC <_staff@comc.com_ (mailto:staff@comc.com) > wrote: # Please type your reply above this line # You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. Nathan Richards, Apr 11, 13:43: Hello Thomas, Thank you for contacting us. We understand that you are frustrated with this seller. This is something that we have had others bring up before. Currently, offer settings apply to a users entire inventory, and there is no way to specify thresholds to be used only on particular items. Please consider that, with 425,692 items for sale, there would be a range of what is acceptable to take as an offer. While JoelsHitShow does receive and reject many offers, he also accepts them. This is not a case of him automatically rejecting everything that comes through. Additionally, with and inventory that large, it can be difficult to maintain up to date prices on all of the cards for s ale. In the examples you provided the 1957 Topps 134 card was priced at $1.80 and 157 Topps 137 wasat $1.60 when you placed your offers. When the prices were raised, they were brought up to a penny under market value. In both cases, the prices were set several months previously and had not been updated. Nathan Richards, COMC The Safe & Easy Way to Buy & Sell Cards Online Sliphorn, Apr 10, 14:42: Must have missed this fact. I will cc COMC on this so they know that this guy has a bad precedent. I noticed that he NEVER accepted an offer from me before. If a guy wants to not accept offers, it just needs to pop up that way to start with like Deans Cards does. This way I know never to make an offer and just buy it or Thanks for getting back. > On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Aaron Shirley _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: > That's the same guy we've talked about doing this before! Kick him off the site, I say! > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2016, at 4:08 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' _billingtw@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:billingtw@sbcglobal.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) >> wrote: >> Guys: >> Here is an email I sent to COMC just now. About an hour ago I placed the bids in the top screen shot. It was rejected and then I was ready to pay the price but saw what is in the bottom screen shot. This was >> JoelsHitShow >> I consider this seller to be pretty unethical and stand by my comment about the gas companies jacking up prices on 9/11. >> Tom Billing >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> From: "Thomas W. Billing" <_billingtw@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:billingtw@sbcglobal.net) > >>> Subject: Issue >>> Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:03:58 PM EDT >>> To: COMC <_staff@comc.com_ (mailto:staff@comc.com) > >>> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had placed the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer >>> >> > >>> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the9/11 attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it is a major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Thomas W. Billing > Sliphorn, Apr 10, 14:04: I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had pl aced the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11 attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it isa major flaw in your system if it is permitted. Thank you, Thomas W. Billing Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.14 PM.png Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.43 PM.png _Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.14 PM.png_ (https://comc.zendesk.com/attachments/token/YGor8H8C3CuPeOrReH0HsM995/?nameScreen+Shot+2016-04-10+at+4.54.1 _Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.43 PM.png_ (https://comc.zendesk.com/attachments/token/wVxK3jTlzXrDYOIcqRLg0UlmJ/?nameScreen+Shot+2016-04-10+ ' [JD4KP0-0MRN] ================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 22:05:09 -0400 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Issue From: "Thomas W. Billing" Thanks for weighing in. We all need to gripe about this dirt bag to COMC and they will not be able to blow it off. This joel character's job is for eBay. Anything to that? Sent from my iPad On Apr 11, 2016, at 9:55 PM, "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > <--Brought it up before to them too... Just amazing > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 4/11/2016 6:56:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Nathan > It is good to know Joel does actually accept some offers. Thank you for that > But to remind disgruntled buyers that a seller's prices may be out of date doesn't cut it. It's common sense: If a seller is unable to maintain prices on their products, it is their own responsibility to change their practices. Put plainly: Bait-and-switch is not a legitimate practice. To restate that: if JoelsHitShow can't keep up with his inventory, he needs to change his business plan. Waiting for an offer and THEN changing prices is NOT the way to keep up. There are plenty of other ways, but honestly, you and Iare both smart enough to know this is SHADY. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:43 PM, COMC wrote: >> # Please type your reply above this line # >> You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. >> Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. >> Nathan Richards, Apr 11, 13:43: >> Hello Thomas, >> Thank you for contacting us. We understand that you are frustrated with this seller. This is something that we have had others bring up before. >> Currently, offer settings apply to a users entire inventory, and there is no way to specify thresholds to be used only on particular items. Please consider that, with 425,692 items for sale, there would be a range of what is acceptable to take as an offer. While JoelsHitShow does receive and reject many offers, he also accepts them. This is not a case of him automatically rejecting everything that comes through. >> Additionally, with and inventory that large, it can be difficult to maintain up to date prices on all of the cards for s ale. In the examples you provided the 1957 Topps 134 card was priced at $1.80 and 157 Topps 137 was at $1.60 when you placed your offers. When the prices were raised, they werebrought up to a penny under market value. In both cases, the prices were set several months previously and had not been updated. >> Regards, >> Nathan Richards, COMC >> The Safe & Easy Way to Buy & Sell Cards Online >> Sliphorn, Apr 10, 14:42: >> Must have missed this fact. I will cc COMC on this so they know that this guy has a bad precedent. >> I noticed that he NEVER accepted an offer from me before. If a guy wantsto not accept offers, it just needs to pop up that way to start with like Deans Cards does. This way I know never to make an offer and just buy it orpass. >> Thanks for getting back. >> > On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> > >> > >> > That's the same guy we've talked about doing this before! Kick him offthe site, I say! >> > Aaron >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Apr 10, 2016, at 4:08 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Guys: >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is an email I sent to COMC just now. About an hour ago I placed the bids in the top screen shot. It was rejected and then I was ready to pay the price but saw what is in the bottom screen shot. This was >> >> JoelsHitShow >> >> >> >> I consider this seller to be pretty unethical and stand by my commentabout the gas companies jacking up prices on 9/11. >> >> >> >> Tom Billing >> >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> >> >>> From: "Thomas W. Billing" > >> >>> Subject: Issue >> >>> Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:03:58 PM EDT >> >>> To: COMC > >> >>> >> >>> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had placed the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer rejected. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it isa major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> >> >>> Thomas W. Billing >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Sliphorn, Apr 10, 14:04: >> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had pl aced the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer rejected. >> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11 attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it is a major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >> Thank you, >> Thomas W. Billing >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.14 PM.png >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.43 PM.png >> Attachment(s) >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.14 PM.png >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.43 PM.png >> ' >> [JD4KP0-0MRN] ================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:07:38 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: yaz catch in left From: mark zentkovich nice quick video had to share: Yastrzemski makes amazing catch in left | | | | | Yastrzemski makes amazing catch in left 4/14/67: With Red Sox pitcher Billy Rohr hanging on to a no-hitter, Carl Yastrzemski makes an amazing catch on T... | | mark z ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:59:30 -0400 Subject: baseball themed cruise From: Shawn Smart Just wanted to pass this along since it seems like something of interest tothis group. I would consider going on one of these one day! https://www.msccruisesusa.com/en-us/Cruise-Deals/Baseball-Greats-Theme-Cruises.aspx=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:57:21 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] vintage non sports page added From: Mike Glasser The following Wings are on the way.. 19 44 48 68 77 84 144 146 156 160 167 170 181 188 192 198 200. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC ramblings Sent: Mon, Apr 11, 2016 7:56 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] vintage non sports page added hey all, I received a box of non sports I won at auction today. very coolcards if I do say so myself..and I do...so after looking through them I decided to add a nonsports page to my site.... I really don't have any dupes for these yet except the wheels set but if you have any you want to get rid of I will list my needs. thanks in advance.and if you have a wheels set you are working on I have a stack nothing higher than 122 though here are my lists for the 4 sets 54 world of wheels 65 105 107 119 124 126 138 143 144 151 154 155 156 157 158 161 on up 55 rails and sails 2 11 20 25 27 28 30 36 39 44 46 47 49 53 55 58 63 65 6971 76 79-200 53 bowman firefighters 2 3 5 6 7 8 10 13 17 23 24 27 31 32 37 38 39 40 41 42 48 50 52 57 58 59 60 61 63 64 52 topps wings 1-59 61-68 70-101 103 104 105 106 109-118 120 121 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 121 132 133 134 135 137 139 140 141 142 144 145 146 147 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168169 170 171 172 173 175 176 177 179 180 181 182 183 184 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 thanks for the look and peace out! John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 17:59:06 -0500 Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?OBC_Photo_Gallery_-_Action_needed?From: "George Vrechek" Many of us can be identified at card shows by our sporty OBC hats. However, it is possible that you might pass fellow OBCers on the street and not recognize them. I thought it would be great to have an OBC member photo gallery which would be accessed via password from our online directory page, similar to our address list. We have some type of photo on our servers for nearly half of us already from national convention gatherings. Thanks to Tom Housley some of the photos have been converted into baseball cards. I picked out member photos I could identify and placed them on the attached DRAFT photo gallery sheet. While I was at it, I thought it would be a handy place for photos of OBC certified dealers. Please take a look at the attachment (let me know, if it doesn't come through). If the photo I've used is fine, you don't need to do anything. If you don't have a photo and would like me to add one, or if you would like me to replace the photo in the draft, send me your .jpg with decent resolution. If you would like Tom to make up a card, when he has a chance, send me two photos with the main photo fitting in a horizontal format like the 1960 cards. If you don't want your picture to appear, let me know as well, otherwise you will be on the OBC wantlist for missing photos. It would be great to see the entire gang on one easy-to-find sheet. Responses within a week would be helpful. I'll send the resulting photo gallery to the AC to request that it be added to the website. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:19:32 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Thanks to...... From: Joel Freedman Ant for a pair, a hostess and a non sport battle star gallactica. Ken goetsch for a bigggggg box of uv hoop cards. There will be some set Thanks guys!! Joel freedman ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 00:08:35 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Photo Gallery - Action needed [1 Attachment] From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en When we were thinking about updating the website, I brought up about adding our pictures to the directory page. I think this is a great idea. I remember WAY back in the day (before everything was electronic) Guru sent out snail mail, guess the OBCer. This was before most of us had met and we only had about 25 members. Boy, have times changed in my 24 years! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 PS- George, that is exactly the picture I would have used! In a message dated 4/12/2016 6:59:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://1494af20/default.html#TopText) from George Vrechek included below] Many of us can be identified at card shows by our sporty OBC hats. However, it is possible that you might pass fellow OBCers on the street and recognize them. I thought it would be great to have an OBC member photo gallery which would be accessed via password from our online directory page, similar to our address list. We have some type of photo on our servers for nearly half of us already from national convention gatherings. Thanks to Tom Housley some of the photos have been converted into baseball cards. I picked out member photos I could identify and placed them on the attached DRAFT photo gallery sheet. While I was at it, I thought it would be a handy place for photos of OBC certified dealers. Please take a look at the attachment (let me know, if it t come through). If the photo I=E2=99ve used is fine, you don=E2=99t need to do anything If you don=E2=99t have a photo and would like me to add one, or if you would like me to replace the photo in the draft, send me your .jpg with decent resolution. If you would like Tom to make up a card, when he has a chance,send me two photos with the main photo fitting in a horizontal format like the 1960 cards. If you don=E2=99t want your picture to appear, let me know as well, otherwise you will be on the OBC wantlist for missing photos. It would be great to see the entire gang on one easy-to-find sheet. Responses within a week would be helpful. I=E2=99ll send the resulting photo gallery to the AC to request it be added to the website. George Vrechek ================= Date: 12 Apr 2016 22:03:10 -0700 To: Subject: STAMP PRICES WENT DOWN! From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 01:05:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hofstra show this weekend From: ChicoD1@aol.com Any of you boys heading to this show this weekend? I'll be there http://www.nyshows.org/hofstra-baseball-card-show/ Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:01:01 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Opinion on smaller New England shows From: Matthew Glidden Wilmington remains the biggest/best NE show, but realized it's been a long time since attending one of the smaller shows, like Methuen/Braintree/Mansfield/Chicopee, and am looking into them again. How would people rank those shows? Mansfield best and others behind? ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:11:28 -0400 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Opinion on smaller New England shows From: Bob Donaldson I went to Methuen about six months ago. A total joke, at least for vintage Been to Mansfield a few times. It was ok, very narrow aisles. Once I bought a bunch of 49 Bowmans including Feller real cheap. Went a few months ago and bought one card. Your mileage may vary. There's one in Woburn every Sunday. Pretty small (not as small as Metheun). There are two guys all along the back row that have BB/FB/Hcky/BskB cards in dollar boxes and he usually discounts a bit if you buy a lot. Bought a lot of 51/52 Bowmans there about a month ago. Halls Nostalgia used to run auctions in Arlington on friday nights, not sure if they do anymore Never been to Chicopee or Braintree, would love to hear others experience. FYI The Shriner's is this weekend. I plan to be there Saturday morning. On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Wilmington remains the biggest/best NE show, but realized it's been a long > time since attending one of the smaller shows, like > Methuen/Braintree/Mansfield/Chicopee, and am looking into them again. How > would people rank those shows? Mansfield best and others behind? > Spike ================= Date: 13 Apr 2016 08:24:47 -0700 To: Subject: Questions on Strongsville show From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:28:50 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Opinion on smaller New England shows From: Joel Freedman Wilmington - best show, but frequency is twice per year. all kinds of cards at this show and plenty of bargain bins. Methuen - have not attended. Braintree - attended once - same 10 - 15 vendors as Mansfield, Woburn - weekly show, went once or twice, some vintage, found vendors looking to make a deal. Mansfield - best local show, plenty of vintage and frequency is monthly. Chicopee - have not attended. Rietta flea market. always deals on vintage, just have to get there early, no predictability to table and dealer, but there are always people looking to move cards. ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:54:27 -0400 To: JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Questions on Strongsville show From: JDahms ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:39:37 -0400 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Issue From: "Thomas W. Billing" This jerk has rejected every offer I have placed. I just got off the phone with some very blas=C3=A9 guy at COMC who said that this is just fine and he does it all the time. I ended by telling him that COMC is obviously just as unethical as this character. He thinks this practice is just fine and will continue until people stop buying from him, which I will now do. It makes ma appreciate all the ethical people like yourselves who would never do this. It is one thing to jack up the prices after research but not immediately after someone makes an offer. I intend to shift my buying to eBay now. This Joel Edelman works for eBay but no doubthas no control over buying practices there. Yes, I am pissed off. Tom Billing > On Apr 11, 2016, at 9:55 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > <--Brought it up before to them too... Just amazing > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 4/11/2016 6:56:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Nathan > It is good to know Joel does actually accept some offers. Thank you for that > But to remind disgruntled buyers that a seller's prices may be out of date doesn't cut it. It's common sense: If a seller is unable to maintain prices on their products, it is their own responsibility to change their practices. Put plainly: Bait-and-switch is not a legitimate practice. To restate that: if JoelsHitShow can't keep up with his inventory, he needs to change his business plan. Waiting for an offer and THEN changing prices is NOT theway to keep up. There are plenty of other ways, but honestly, you and I are both smart enough to know this is SHADY. > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 11, 2016, at 3:43 PM, COMC > >> # Please type your reply above this line # >> You are registered as a cc on this help desk request and are thus receiving email notifications on all updates to the request. >> Reply to this email to add a comment to the request. >> Nathan Richards, Apr 11, 13:43: >> Hello Thomas, >> Thank you for contacting us. We understand that you are frustrated with this seller. This is something that we have had others bring up before. >> Currently, offer settings apply to a users entire inventory, and there is no way to specify thresholds to be used only on particular items. Please consider that, with 425,692 items for sale, there would be a range of what is acceptable to take as an offer. While JoelsHitShow does receive and reject many offers, he also accepts them. This is not a case of him automatically rejecting everything that comes through. >> Additionally, with and inventory that large, it can be difficult to maintain up to date prices on all of the cards for s ale. In the examples you provided the 1957 Topps 134 card was priced at $1.80 and 157 Topps 137 was at $1.60 when you placed your offers. When the prices were raised, they werebrought up to a penny under market value. In both cases, the prices were set several months previously and had not been updated. >> Regards, >> Nathan Richards, COMC >> The Safe & Easy Way to Buy & Sell Cards Online >> Sliphorn, Apr 10, 14:42: >> Must have missed this fact. I will cc COMC on this so they know that this guy has a bad precedent. >> I noticed that he NEVER accepted an offer from me before. If a guy wantsto not accept offers, it just needs to pop up that way to start with like Deans Cards does. This way I know never to make an offer and just buy it orpass. >> Thanks for getting back. >> > On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> > >> > >> > That's the same guy we've talked about doing this before! Kick him offthe site, I say! >> > Aaron >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Apr 10, 2016, at 4:08 PM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net > [OBC-Ramblings] >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Guys: >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is an email I sent to COMC just now. About an hour ago I placed the bids in the top screen shot. It was rejected and then I was ready to pay the price but saw what is in the bottom screen shot. This was >> >> JoelsHitShow >> >> >> >> I consider this seller to be pretty unethical and stand by my commentabout the gas companies jacking up prices on 9/11. >> >> >> >> Tom Billing >> >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> >> >>> From: "Thomas W. Billing" >> >> >>> Subject: Issue >> >>> Date: April 10, 2016 at 5:03:58 PM EDT >> >>> To: COMC > >>> >> >>> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had placed the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer rejected. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it isa major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> >> >>> Thomas W. Billing >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > > Sliphorn, Apr 10, 14:04: >> I am pasting in two screen shots from this afternoon. I had pl aced the bids shown on these cards and waited for a response, which was offer rejected. >> I was prepared to then pay the $3.40 and get the cards after the possible rejection but got THIS result. As you can see the prices were jacked up on the cards. I have submitted a $3.40 offer which will no doubt be rejected. This is akin to the gas companies who jacked up prices after the 9/11 attacks and is extremely unethical. Please let me know about this as it is a major flaw in your system if it is permitted. >> Thank you, >> Thomas W. Billing >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.14 PM.png >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.43 PM.png >> Attachment(s) >> Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.14 PM.png > Screen Shot 2016-04-10 at 4.54.43 PM.png > ' >> [JD4KP0-0MRN] ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 14:45:38 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Opinion on smaller New England shows From: Matthew Glidden Great, thanks Joel! Never knew about the Rietta Flea Market, will give it a try soon, as well as Woburn. (Also attending Wilmington for awhile this Saturday and hope to catch people there!) On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Joel Freedman > Wilmington - best show, but frequency is twice per year. all kinds of > cards at this show and plenty of bargain bins. > Methuen - have not attended. > Braintree - attended once - same 10 - 15 vendors as Mansfield, > Woburn - weekly show, went once or twice, some vintage, found vendors > looking to make a deal. > Mansfield - best local show, plenty of vintage and frequency is monthly. > Chicopee - have not attended. > Rietta flea market. always deals on vintage, just have to get there > early, no predictability to table and dealer, but there are always people > looking to move cards. ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:20:52 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Questions on Strongsville show From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Technically there are multiple Strongsville shows, however only 1 is produced by Paul Fusco and dedicated to vintage cards. He restricts who sets up to vintage only dealers for this spring show. Not nearly as large as the National, but those of us that make it, think it is a great show. Admission is less than the National. We have also heard good things about the Robert Morris show in the Pittsburgh area. It is also a once a year show, and this year it is May 20 -22. A few of us have been talking about attending. Specifically the Saturday and Sunday. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: JTysver1 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2016 11:55 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Questions on Strongsville show Jay. Strongsville is once a year. And only vintage. Happy birthday to your Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 4/13/2016 11:24 AM (GMT-05:00) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Questions on Strongsville show After research and financial considerations, I realized my thoughts of visiting the National in Atlantic City this year just don't seem to fit. Next year in Chicago may be more practical. In that manner I have questions about the Strongsville show. I don't expectto be going this weekend because of my wife's birthday and I am ill prepare to head that way. Is it done once a year? Is there as much vintage stuff at it as the National? Is it generally cheaper than the National? Are there other shows similar, and what are they and when and where? Jay Tysver ================= Date: 13 Apr 2016 17:05:13 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Questions on Strongsville show From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:05:15 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC Subject: Mom From: Stamper I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough to be able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick up meds and whatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the hospital. Shehad surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of the time. I broughther dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. Her mind is still strong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me and her when she wasgoing through all this. She was miserable in the care facility. And didn'tcare much for the hospital. It took most of my time and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision and having her in her house has helped me be at peace as well. John Stamper ================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:51:08 -0400 To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom From: mikesportsfan@aol.com We will keep you and your mother in our prayers. Please remember we arehere if you need to talk to anyone. Mike Rich cell: 248-709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings OBC Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2016 8:05 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough to be able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick up meds and whatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the hospital. Shehad surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of the time. I brought her dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. Her mind is stillstrong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me and her when she was going through all this. She was miserable in the care facility. And didn't care much for the hospital. It took most of my time and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision and having her in her house has helped me be at peace as well. John Stamper ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 03:48:58 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Spring Time Celebration, Waiver Wire Wednesday style. From: chris tripler On top of it finally feeling like spring in New England, it's Gus' birthdayand to celebrate, we'll do it the Japanese way...we'll give you presents...FCFS...addresses 1956T #129 "Jake" Martin 1961T #s 26, 27, 33, , 60, 77, 94, 98, 105, 111 1966T #s 16, 56, 61, 62, 83, 141, 330, 363 (CL 5th series) 1970T #s 9 (CL 1st series), 36, 333, 343 (CL 4th series) 1972T #226 WS Game #4/Clemente Happy Spring everyone! TripOBC '15 ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 04:13:29 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Meet up in Colorado From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- Today was an awesome day in Denver...about 70 degrees and sunny. Perfect to hook up with an OBCer!! Joe Adriance and his lovely girlfriendEmily spent the day with me, mostly drinking beer...but also talking baseball, hockey and other important things. Joe is a beer connoisseur, sohe brought a few to the house, plus we hit a few local places to find someother libations. But not only that...he showed up with a Dick Hoblitzel Sovereign card from the T205 set! Now that's pretty cool, since Icollect the Sovereigns, and I collect Hoblitzel cards, so a double hit of sorts. I'll be brining a few extra cards on my next DCA layover to payback Joe for that beauty! Take Care,Geno ================= To: "holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com" , Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 01:43:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom From: richard dingman Best wishes in a tough situation. My story is somewhat similar. Dad died in '94, mom lived alone 10 years, had a bad fall, went into hospital then nursing home. Lucky for me she knewthe nursing home people and liked them (really good people). She lived there for a year and never once asked about her home, or wanted to go back. It had become a burden for her alone and she was far away from her kids in another country. She died peacefully in the nursing home with my brother and me holding her hands. Most of us will lose our parents at some time, I'm lucky that my story wentso well. Of course I sometimes wish I could have done more for the woman who did more for me over my life than any other human being, but that's a natural regret. I did as much as I could and we had a great relationship, knowing we loved each other at the end and with nothing more that needed to be I love that you brought her dogs to visit, that would have meant a lot to me had I been in that situation. Good for you for helping her be at peace with her desires for how to spend her last days. I hope we can all be so lucky as to have such a caring son. Richard D To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:51:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom We will keep you and your mother in our prayers. Please remember we arehere if you need to talk to anyone. Mike Rich cell: 248-709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings OBC Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2016 8:05 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough to be able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick up meds and whatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the hospital. Shehad surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of the time. I brought her dogs backover today and she was happy to see them. Her mind is still strong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me and her when she was going throughall this. She was miserable in the care facility. And didn't care much forthe hospital. It took most of my time and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision and having her in her house has helped me be at peace as well. John Stamper ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 07:04:22 -0400 To: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom From: Bob Donaldson My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. You are a good son! On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 8:05 PM, Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > OBC > I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing > with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad > passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough > to be able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff > around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The > past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out > of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick > up meds and whatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital > to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the > hospital. She had surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got > better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She > came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, > medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to > say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of > the time. I brought her dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. > Her mind is still strong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me > and her when she was going through all this. She was miserable in the care > facility. And didn't care much for the hospital. It took most of my time > and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision > and having her in her house has helped me be at peace as well. > John Stamper ================= Date: 14 Apr 2016 05:32:00 -0700 To: Subject: Met Life From: 233_23555@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:05:12 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: See you at Strongsville! Super pumped! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I'm packing up and headed to Strongsville this afternoon. Super stoked to be setting up! Thanks ahead of time to ED HUTCHINSON who volunteered to meet me there to bring all my crap in! This was the one BIG worry I had, as I have a ton of stuff, and my partner, Bryan, won't be there until late Friday night. So grateful for Ed!! Not sure how this all happened, but I have to tell you, I didn't think we were even going to get into the show at all. The deadline was December of 2015 to MAYBE get into this show, but Bryan and I were not really ready to start doing shows yet, but we have the inventory now. OBC Friendly Dealer, Mark Smith, told me that it would be difficult to get in, but I needed to at least send the promoter a message. Worst case scenario....tell him I'd like to be on the waiting list for 2017. Well, he said they were booked, but I asked to keep me in mind if a table happened to open up from a cancelation. Well, we got the call that a singletable was now open, so we jumped on it even though I really need 2+ tables. I requested that if a 2-table booth opened, then we'd love to know aboutit, and just a couple days ago it happened! Not only that, in the promoter's own words, he said, "Bring your best stuff because you guys have the best tables in the show. The two tables to the right as soon as you walk in the door." WHAT?! No pressure at all! Let's just say I'm bringing just about everything that I have.....or at least everything I have prepared to bring. :) Some of the highlights includea large Topps/Bowman run mostly broken up into singles, complete '60s-70s Topps subsets, lots of prewar (T206s, HOF RCs), binders to go through for your Topps runs, and more. Some oddball items as well (Red Man, '64T Coins,Exhibits, and others.) Looking forward to seeing many of you there. Just a heads up, I did NOT have time to get "hand-shakes" prepared for this, so if you did plan on bringone for me, I'll try and send a follow up after the show sometime. This has just been crazy getting it all ready. Have a great weekend, y'all! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:45:25 -0400 To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] See you at Strongsville! Super pumped! From: Yahoo I am just as excited I can wait until Saturday, it's going to be a blast. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2016, at 11:05, Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey guys, > I'm packing up and headed to Strongsville this afternoon. Super stoked tobe setting up! Thanks ahead of time to ED HUTCHINSON who volunteered to meet me there to bring all my crap in! This was the one BIG worry I had, as Ihave a ton of stuff, and my partner, Bryan, won't be there until late Friday night. So grateful for Ed!! > Not sure how this all happened, but I have to tell you, I didn't think wewere even going to get into the show at all. The deadline was December of 2015 to MAYBE get into this show, but Bryan and I were not really ready to start doing shows yet, but we have the inventory now. OBC Friendly Dealer, Mark Smith, told me that it would be difficult to get in, but I needed to at least send the promoter a message. Worst case scenario....tell him I'd like to be on the waiting list for 2017. > Well, he said they were booked, but I asked to keep me in mind if a tablehappened to open up from a cancelation. Well, we got the call that a single table was now open, so we jumped on it even though I really need 2+ tables. I requested that if a 2-table booth opened, then we'd love to know aboutit, and just a couple days ago it happened! Not only that, in the promoter's own words, he said, "Bring your best stuff because you guys have the best tables in the show. The two tables to the right as soon as you walk in the door." WHAT?! No pressure at all! > Let's just say I'm bringing just about everything that I have.....or at least everything I have prepared to bring. :) Some of the highlights includea large Topps/Bowman run mostly broken up into singles, complete '60s-70s Topps subsets, lots of prewar (T206s, HOF RCs), binders to go through for your Topps runs, and more. Some oddball items as well (Red Man, '64T Coins, Exhibits, and others.) > Looking forward to seeing many of you there. Just a heads up, I did NOT have time to get "hand-shakes" prepared for this, so if you did plan on bring one for me, I'll try and send a follow up after the show sometime. This has just been crazy getting it all ready. Have a great weekend, y'all! > Jimi > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:26:52 -0400 Subject: glue removal experts From: Shawn Smart any glue removal experts want to take a crack at this lot? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-61-62-Topps-Mays-Clemente-Aaron-Rookies-POOR-SEE-DESCRIPTION-/111961705429?hashitem1a11700bd5:g:1U4AAOSwgApXBcwQ ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:40:19 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: glue removal experts From: Larry Tipton the only problem I see is why aren't the cards still glued to whole album pages? Could be someone cut them from the album pages with the intention of soaking them, and the test soak was not successful. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 13:53:20 -0400 To: brightair@msn.com, holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom From: Mike Glasser And mine - I lost my father last year to Lewey Body disease and my mother 2 years ago to Pancreatic Cancer. The details, as you might imagine, are awful and akin to what you are experiencing. One nugget of wisdom that has resonated with through this experience is that I have good memories to hold onto. Not everyone can say that and I was fortunate to have caring and loving parents and I'm thankful that I have good things to think about. Life goes on and I concentrate on giving my own children memories of their own to cherish one day. Hang in there and I wish you the best. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: holidayandhobbies ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, Apr 14, 2016 1:43 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom Best wishes in a tough situation. My story is somewhat similar. Dad died in '94, mom lived alone 10 years, had a bad fall, went into hospital then nursing home. Lucky for me she knewthe nursing home people and liked them (really good people). She lived there for a year and never once asked about her home, or wanted to go back. It had become a burden for her alone and she was far away from her kids in another country. She died peacefully in the nursing home with my brother and me holding her hands. Most of us will lose our parents at some time, I'm lucky that my story wentso well. Of course I sometimes wish I could have done more for the woman who did more for me over my life than any other human being, but that's a natural regret. I did as much as I could and we had a great relationship, knowing we loved each other at the end and with nothing more that needed to be I love that you brought her d ogs to visit, that would have meant a lot to me had I been in that situation. Good for you for helping her be at peace with her desires for how to spend her last days. I hope we can all be so lucky as to have such a caring son. Richard D To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:51:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom We will keep you and your mother in our prayers. Please remember we arehere if you need to talk to anyone. Mike Rich cell: 248-709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings OBC Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2016 8:05 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mom I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough to be able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick up meds and whatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the hospital. Shehad surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of the time. I brought her dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. Her mind is stillstrong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me and her when she was going through all this. She was miserable in the care facility. And didn't care much for the hospital. It took most of my time and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision and having her in her house has helped me be at peace as well. John Stamper ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:16:33 -0400 To: "directorth@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Questions on Strongsville show From: Doug Is anyone going to the next show Moeller High School show in Cincinnati? Ihave a daughter who lives in Cincinnati and it might make for a good excuse for a weekend visit. Doug DeJong Sent from my iPad > On Apr 13, 2016, at 8:05 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Regionally-speaking (Ohio), Strongsville is #1 (and last year was the first time I've been to it; I was really impressed). Number two is probably the twice per year (late April and late November) in Cincinnati at Moeller High School. JD Heckathorn has a show every 2-3 months in Columbus, but I feel his new venue is a let-down from previous ones. > Tom Housley ================= Date: 14 Apr 2016 11:27:55 -0700 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Questions on Strongsville show From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 14 Apr 2016 11:29:28 -0700 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Questions on Strongsville show From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:54:54 -0700 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: glue removal experts From: Rick It has been brought up before soaking 50's or older cards is different than60's or newer. Because of the glue 60's don't pan out to well you may get some paper or all off but you will probably ruin the backs doing it so you still won't see the backs. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > the only problem I see is why aren't the cards still glued to whole albumpages? Could be someone cut them from the album pages with the intention of soaking them, and the test soak was not successful. > Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:10:39 -0400 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: glue removal experts From: Bob Donaldson I glued some 1970 BB cards to a scrapbook as a kid, Elmers I think. That stuff is on there like super glue, it ain't coming off via soaking or even a jack hammer. Bought a 1922 scrap book wit some E121s in it. They came off perfectly in water. On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > It has been brought up before soaking 50's or older cards is different > than 60's or newer. Because of the glue 60's don't pan out to well you may > get some paper or all off but you will probably ruin the backs doing it so > you still won't see the backs. Rick > Sent from my iPad > On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > the only problem I see is why aren't the cards still glued to whole album > pages? Could be someone cut them from the album pages with the intention of > soaking them, and the test soak was not successful. > Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:15:18 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: glue removal experts From: Joel Freedman sound like the 60's glue is not dissolvable in water. any chemists in our On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I glued some 1970 BB cards to a scrapbook as a kid, Elmers I think. That > stuff is on there like super glue, it ain't coming off via soaking or even > a jack hammer. Bought a 1922 scrap book wit some E121s in it. They came > off perfectly in water. > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> It has been brought up before soaking 50's or older cards is different >> than 60's or newer. Because of the glue 60's don't pan out to well you may >> get some paper or all off but you will probably ruin the backs doing it so >> you still won't see the backs. Rick >> Sent from my iPad >> On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net >> [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> the only problem I see is why aren't the cards still glued to whole album >> pages? Could be someone cut them from the album pages with the intentionof >> soaking them, and the test soak was not successful. >> Guru >> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:39:00 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Strongsville From: OBC Nick P I can now say things look very favorable for me to make it to Strongsville for the show. It's not guaranteed but looking very good to make it. I can move the clockup from noon tomorrow to 0700 CDT Friday morning to know. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:51:39 -0400 To: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: glue removal experts From: chris tripler Problem is other solvents remove ink. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > sound like the 60's glue is not dissolvable in water. any chemists in our >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I glued some 1970 BB cards to a scrapbook as a kid, Elmers I think. That stuff is on there like super glue, it ain't coming off via soaking or even a jack hammer. Bought a 1922 scrap book wit some E121s in it. They cameoff perfectly in water. >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> It has been brought up before soaking 50's or older cards is different than 60's or newer. Because of the glue 60's don't pan out to well you may get some paper or all off but you will probably ruin the backs doing it so you still won't see the backs. Rick >>> Sent from my iPad >>>> On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> the only problem I see is why aren't the cards still glued to whole album pages? Could be someone cut them from the album pages with the intention of soaking them, and the test soak was not successful. >>>> Guru >>>> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:45:34 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville From: Yahoo Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 14, 2016, at 16:39, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I can now say things look very favorable for me to make it to Strongsville for the show. > It's not guaranteed but looking very good to make it. I can move the clock up from noon tomorrow to 0700 CDT Friday morning to know. > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 17:47:07 -0500 Subject: Reminder on OBCer Photos From: "George Vrechek" I've gotten several responses on the OBC photo gallery project (my email of earlier this week), but still need plenty to complete the picture. If you haven't done so already, send me a jpg of yourself. Current version attached. Some guy named Hack responded, so I put him in. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 06:59:22 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Strongsville From: OBC Nick P I'll be in Ohio. I know two minutes earlier than I expected. Nick Pelletier ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 11:44:12 -0400 Subject: 66 waivers From: Shawn Smart Have a few leftovers from the lot I won from Jay Tysver - 141, 144, 168, 171, 319, 387. Claim away :) ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 17:15:16 +0000 (UTC) To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra show this weekend From: Dan Angland I am going to try for Saturday in the am.Dan Angland Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:05 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Any of you boys heading to this show this weekend? I'll be there Saturday...http://www.nyshows.org/hofstra-baseball-card-show/Sal OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 17:39:39 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Rich Altman/Shriner Card Show in Wilmington this Weekend, From: chris tripler Anyone heading over this weekend? I'll be there on Sunday early with dad. It would be great to meet up with some ================= To: "'chris tripler'" , Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:46:37 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rich Altman/Shriner Card Show in Wilmington this Weekend, From: "Bob Donaldson" I should be there tomorrow morning From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:40 PM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rich Altman/Shriner Card Show in Wilmington this Weekend, Anyone heading over this weekend? I'll be there on Sunday early with dad. It would be great to meet up with some ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 13:47:21 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rich Altman/Shriner Card Show in Wilmington this Weekend, From: Matthew Glidden Plan to be there tomorrow from 11-4. Longer if the deals keep coming! On Friday, April 15, 2016, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I should be there tomorrow morning > Bob > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > ] *On > Behalf Of *chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Friday, April 15, 2016 1:40 PM > *To:* yahoogroups > > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Rich Altman/Shriner Card Show in Wilmington > this Weekend, > Anyone heading over this weekend? > I'll be there on Sunday early with dad. It would be great to meet up with > some OBCers. > Trip ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 11:20:00 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC Subject: Re: Mom From: Stamper Mom passed away this morning. She went in peace. Thank you all for your kind John Stamper On Apr 13, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Stamper wrote: > OBC > I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough tobe able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick up meds andwhatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the hospital. She had surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of the time. I brought her dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. Her mind is still strong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me and her when she was going through all this. She was miserable in the care facility. And didn't care much for the hospital. It took most of my time and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision and having her in herhouse has helped me be at peace as well. > John Stamper ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 14:35:05 -0400 To: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Mom From: Joel Freedman My condolences........ On Friday, April 15, 2016, Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Mom passed away this morning. She went in peace. Thank you all for your > kind words. > John Stamper > On Apr 13, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Stamper > wrote: > > OBC > > > > I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing > with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad > passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough > to be able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff > around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The > past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out > of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick > up meds and whatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital > to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the > hospital. She had surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got > better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She > came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, > medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to > say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of > the time. I brought her dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. > Her mind is still strong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me > and her when she was going through all this. She was miserable in the care > facility. And didn't care much for the hospital. It took most of my time > and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision > and having her in her house has helped me be at peace as well. > > > > John Stamper > > ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:49:02 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reminder on OBCer Photos [1 Attachment] From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en I am thinking of getting up the guts to send a picture of myself. 2 thoughts. No one in the group looks like I thought they would look. I was surprised to find out that pretty women, babies or horses seriously really actually make baseball cards look better. Randy Welk In a message dated 4/14/2016 3:48:12 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://04bfcd60/default.html#TopText) from George Vrechek included below] I=E2=99ve gotten several responses on the OBC photo gallery project (myemail of earlier this week), but still need plenty to complete the picture. If you haven=E2=99t done so already, send me a jpg of yourself. Current version attached. Some guy named Hack responded, so I put him in. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 23:58:20 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: article about a new look about current relievers measurements From: mark zentkovich Seeking a better stat for when a win is truly 'saved' fyi for anyone interested in reading about a different way to measure relief success.. mark zentkovich , http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/seeking-a-better-stat-for-when-a-win-is-truly/article_ce420d41-1df2-5b5d-8cab-585a2e5e1f29.html ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 20:17:51 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver Wire Take 2 From: Jake Brewer Here's some more waivers: '55T: 14 '59T: 275, 392, 436, 449 (x2) '61T: 263, 272, 367 '64T: 39 '66T: 122, 161, 187 Claim away! -Jake Brewer Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 22:39:26 -0400 To: jefreedman1@gmail.com, holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Mom From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Please let us know if there is anything we can do. Our thoughts are with you during this time. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joel Freedman jefreedman1@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Stamper Cc: Ramblings OBC Sent: Fri, Apr 15, 2016 2:41 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Mom My condolences........ On Friday, April 15, 2016, Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Mom passed away this morning. She went in peace. Thank you all for your kind John Stamper On Apr 13, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Stamper wrote: > OBC > I wanted to share with the group a tough personal situation I am dealing with. My Mom has been in poor health for the past couple of years. My Dad passed away 19 years ago and she lives by herself. I was fortunate enough tobe able to see her a few days a week, bring dinner over, fix stuff around the house and take her to her dr appointments over that time. The past 6 months she has had a number of different health issues. In and out of the Hospital numerous times. I came over every day to see her and pick up meds andwhatever she needed. Two months ago she went from the hospital to a rehab/care facility. Three weeks ago I had to admit her back into the hospital. She had surgery and was sedated for ten days. She never got better. So her wish was to go home and spend her remaining time there. She came home Tuesday morning. We are using hospice, which provides, nurses, medicine and what ever she needs to be comfortable and pain free. I have to say it is a much more peaceful way to go. She is heavily medicated most of the time. I brought her dogs back over today and she was happy to see them. Her mind is still strong, but her body is failing her. It was hard on me and her when she was going through all this. She was miserable in the care facility. And didn't care much for the hospital. It took most of my time and almost all my focus and energy. Having her at peace with her decision and having her in herhouse has helped me be at peace as well. > John Stamper ================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 12:00:38 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: TJ and me From: Gary Mandell At the be the match walkathon this morning ================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 21:10:09 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Hofstra show recap From: ChicoD1@aol.com Got to spend the day at probably the only good (decent) show we have here on Long Island. The best part of the show was seeing a few OBCers, one of which I haven't seen since another Hofstra show a number of years ago. Got to see Kevin Martens and his wife Joanne (at least we didn't have to go out of state to see each other). For all those wondering about Kevin's health- They do door prizes where they call your name over a loudspeaker. Well, they called Kevin to get a free Frank Thomas autograph on a baseball. You should have seen him sprint over to the table to collect a baseball that Frank hand signed right there! I'd say he's doing pretty well! I haven't seen Dan Angland since a show a LONG time ago, where I let him in line with me while we waited for someone's autograph. Great to see him and we just may see him in New Jersey this summer! Show was ok. Scored a few 52s for about 2.50 a piece and did some damage to the Red Sox set. Chipped away at a few others. Picked up a bunch of 56 Team cards, not knowing which I needed. I guess I should put a 56 list together eh? BTW, got 7 of them for under 2 bucks each. Also got the freebie autograph of Ron LeFleur. Nice dude for sure. Best part is when you build relationships with some dealers. Richard, I saw Lenny at the show and he gave me a box of miscuts to send you. They should be in the mail sometime this week, He is going to be moving to Colorado within the next year. That's one guy I will miss, spent about 30 minutes just shooting the breeze with him. I picked up a stack of unopened 1989 talking baseball cards. I plan on opening these and pulling the Mets and Red Sox. If anyone would like some, let me know. I just don't know when I'll be opening the packages. I already have the player for these. Yakked with a few more of my "preferred" dealers. Kinda nice when they recognize you and the And this is for Guru... I Gonged myself 3x at the show. Not cards I already had, cards I had bought TWICE at the same show. Sheesh, well you may see a few waivers coming to an email near you. We need to add that phrase to the To paraphrase- A day at a card show with OBCers beats roast beef at the Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 22:21:47 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Rittenberg update From: Steve Rittenberg (Originally posted on Facebook) The week hasn't really ended but this seems the right time for an "end of the week" post. Sorry to those who haven't heard from me for a bit. There's been no real 'news' about Gina. She remains a patient at MD Anderson in Houston in the leukemia unit. We think the chemotherapy was effective but her body is taking a very long time to recover. Specifically, she is not producing producing sufficient platelets (or perhaps any - I don't recall the specifics). As a result, she suffers from nose bleeds, mouth bleeds, and bruising. She is receiving platelet transfusions continuously. No treatment is without side effects. Headaches and nausea are the most common ones. And the meds to counter the nausea make her sleepy so she sleeps a lot. But she cannot always use her CPAP because the positive air pressure sometimes exacerbates the nosebleeds. Sorry to drone on about this but it can be cathartic for me. There was one major highlight this week. A long-time friend from Virginia came to visit us for a few days. It was a blessing to us, just like when Gina's mother and daughter visited last week. Another highlight didn't make it to Facebook. Last night I went to Congregation Beth-Israel. I actually had the time wrong so did not catch the whole service. But it was a nice experience nonetheless. A Rabbi in Huntsville (friend of a co-worker) asked me to speak with Rabbi Adrienne Scott here. She was very welcoming in her emails. I stayed for the end of the service, the reception and then a talk by Rabbi David Berkowitz about an art-filled Haggadah he created. Very interesting. I may go back tomorrow morning to make up for the incomplete service tonight. I haven't attended services in When Gina was diagnosed, I asked people where they find support. Most said "church". I found a Unitarian Universalist church in Huntsville as kind of a halfway point between attending a synagogue (my upbringing) and a Southern Baptist church (Gina's). Spiritually and culturally it can be lacking (Gina asks "where is G d?") but I could not have met a nicer group of people. A group of them are currently taking turns coming to the house each day to tend to our cats. I had never heard of a "Care Committee" like the one at the church but I'm so grateful they have one. When I return home, perhaps I will attend synagogue and church. Thank you all your continued support. Everyone is welcome to reach out to us with prayers, supports, comments, messages, email (srittenberg@gmail.com) and phone calls (256-585-4329). Despite all that is going on, I am learning how blessed I am to know so many people who care. When life returns to normal and Gina is back in Alabama, one of my biggest priorities will be to pay forward all the kindness that has been extended to us during this time. This message will also be reposted on CaringBridge and via email. Some of you may see this message more than once but that is the only way to make sure I communicate with as many people as possible. Steve Rittenberg ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 05:44:43 -0500 Subject: Sunday Thanks From: "ken goetsch" Go out to: John Stamper, for a a 4 bagger of 74' baseball checklists all 1* variety, and John slips a scp from 76' Kellogg's..Thanks a bunch, John. Rob Bessette, allow me to pluck a 59' waiver wire, in absolutely tremendouscondition...Thanks very much, Rob. Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 07:05:40 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL JOE BLACK From: Rick Just won my last topps doable card with Joe black last night. Have three more to go but those are out of my price range so my topps run is done for awhile. 52 mantle,52 Mathews and 53 mantle will have to wait till I win the lottery. My Venezuelan run is heating up and may have some good news to share on that front soon. Rick View item: 1952 TOPPS BASEBALL JOE BLACK End Time: Apr 16, 2016, 9:15:12 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 17 Apr 2016 15:06:39 -0700 To: Subject: A few post-Strongsville waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 01:03:20 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: April ramble From: Ken M Hi gang,  Baseball season is under way. My beloved Red Sox are doing well and awful at the same time if that's possible. The way things look to me, they'll either come together as a unit and go on a tear - or fall apart at the seams and finish last again. Wait and see.  I got to go to a game for the first time in ages. My nephew offered me free tickets, as his buddy canceled out on him and I don't think his heart was set on watching the game anyway. I ended up taking my other nephew (his younger brother). He gave me a twenty on top of the free seats, which covered my footlong sausage with the works, a small soda inside the park AND parking at the train station. All I paid for was the train ride in for both of us. I had an old pass that I was going to add money to (it's been sitting in my wallet for almost a year I think) - but when I put it in the machine, I discovered I already had more than enough on it for both our round trip fares - score!  The game was great. The Sox no-hit the Blue Jays not named Juan Encarnacion (all three hits, but two were homers) and the home team prevailed 5-3. It was Jackie Robinson night, so everyone on both teams wore #42. That made it a little difficult to tell players apart, especially for the first game I've watched in a long while. At least I didn't buy a program with all the 'wrong' player numbers in it. My nephew was probably ready to get out of the 45 degree stadium by the eighth inning, but he stuck it out until they played 'Dirty Water' after the last out.  I just added over 6000 (uv) cards to my wantlist. I can't tell you how much of a pain that is doing it on a cell phone. They look and feel like vintage cards, but they are not. I had a few starter sets, but most I started with none - and my phone doesn't have a very large screen, especially when you're dealing with 14 separate 500-card lists.  Tomorrow is a holiday in Massachusetts. I'm working a short shift and taking the rest of the week off for vacation. The kids don't have school either. Tuesday I have a meeting in Boston with my divorce lawyer and my wife to hopefully work out a settlement. Our trial date is now set for July 26th - the week before the National. I may have to cancel my plans on going this year, which would break my heart and really tick me off at the same time. My plan at the end of last year to set aside $20/wk for the show has failed miserably and unfortunately the next few weeks don't look any more promising.  I did finally get some packages in the mail earlier this week. Some were promised a couple weeks ago and others about a month ago... Sorry for my delay  Work has been another bright spot recently. The union finally worked out a contract with the company and I'll be getting a raise every year for the next three, while our health care costs will remain the same - win. I'm still looking forward to my vacation, even though I'm not really going anywhere. My daughter Kyleigh turns 5 on Tuesda y, so I will be travelling to a place where there will be cake. :-) That's all for now. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 16:50:36 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Strongsville show report From: nick pelletier I was able to attend the Strongsville Ohio show the past weekend. I got home about 4 pm sunday afternoon. I was going to take a short 90 minute nap then wake up, post the thank you's, ramble about the show, andupdate the wantlist. If you looked at the time stamp on this email, youve already figured out that didnt happen. I only slept twelve hours past where I initially wanted to. Okay, enough of that. Theremay be a reason n the long form of this ramble. Strongsville Short Version, WOW! done. Long Version.....I left my house at 0245 am Friday morning. I did nothave confirmed flights. The entire trip was sort of a fly by the seat of your pants event. As the flight to Chicago was boarding I was counting and thingking the entire trip is already over. No Way can there be enough seats to get me out of Minneapolis. I got the last seat on the plane. An hour later, Im racing through O'hare trying to get toa tight connection where I may or may not get on a flight. Once again, I got the last seat on the plane. I made the connection. I am on my way to Dayton! woo hoo! I begin to kill time in the Dayton airport because I had the time. Itwould have been nice to catch a short nap but that wasnt meant to happen. I find as comfy a chair as Im going to find in an airport. I sit down with a bottle of soda and the phone. Ill start talking and texting with anybody who responds. After not too long, Jerry Barnes says he is on his way to the airport to pick me up. I wouldnt know Jerryif he came up to me and said he was Jerry. He pulls up, we chat for about ten seconds and I get in the car. Fortunately he had an OBC haton his dashboard. At the same time as I see his OBC hat I notice he has a skeleton on a string hanging from his rear view mirror. Good thing I just jumped in the car with him based on a hat. Jerry and I gotlunch then went to his house to BS for a while. Not long after that Wes Shepard comes to Jerry's house to pick me up. Wes takes me to hishouse for a short stop. We pick up his two boys and head out for an A ball Dayton Dragons game. Great stadium and game to see. After the game we head back to the Shepard house. Its time for Beer and card talk. That lasted a couple hours. About two AM we decide tocatch a short nap before leaving for the show. We got four hours. Saturday morning, just minutes before 0700 Jerry Barnes arrives. Wes and I get in his car along with Nolan-Wes' son. This time I'm not quite as apprehensive as now Ive atleast met the guy with the skeleton on his rear view mirror. We had awesome conversations about everything from cardboard to life and back. We got to the show about two minutes after it opened. It was like the national without twenty tables of shiny stuff between the dealers we like to go to. Jimi Thayer, Uncle Dick, Kurt Tourdot, Jack Zerby, JD Heckathorn. Almost right next to each other. WOW! It was a sprint through the show. Trying to pick up everything i wanted to hit. Trying to talk to everybody I haventseen in months. Run Run Run Go Go Go Go! I came, I saw, I leftbroke. But its Ok, because I went to Sam Taylor's house. Sam had the OBC contingent gather at his place for pizza, wings, beer, and cardboard. More great conversation, good laughs, and an all around great time. Jerry, Wes, Nolan, and I left around eleven PM. Nolanfell asleep quickly. The three of us had a fairly quiet ride back. We arrived at Wes' place just before 0200 am. I had to be on the road to the airport just after 0330 to make an early flight. Wes and I just sat up BS'ing a little more. We got on the road to the airport. At the airport my luck ran out. The flight had one more person than seats and I got bumped. I had to wait 90 minutes for the net flight toChicago which I easily got on. The most painful part was watching the flight across the concourse go to Minneapolis, my destination, maybe halffull. It was a different airline so I couldnt jump over there.I made it to Chicago where it got really interesting. The Denver snow storm jammed everything up. There was no way i was going to get to Minneapolis. My best choice was to fly to Duluth Minnesota. If youre not familiar with Minnesota thats the same as flying to Boston and hoping to get to New York City. Fortunately it worked out very well. A series of four people shuttled me down eastern MN until I finally made it home. I was gone a total of 61 hours. Only four of those were used for sleep. I was able to run on a combination of sausage mcmuffins and diet coke. The combination is now called rocket fuel. I will be submitting the formal recipe to NASA and save the government some cash. If I had it to do all over again, knowing the issues that would come up andderail the best laid plans, would I? Absolutely YES! !00% without a doubt. Great trip, Great show, OBC IS AWESOME! Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: 18 Apr 2016 13:09:44 -0700 To: Subject: My turn- Strongsville show report From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 18 Apr 2016 18:38:59 -0700 To: Subject: Colorado ramble From: joe8941@aol.com ================= Date: 19 Apr 2016 12:12:45 -0700 To: Subject: Strongsville From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 19 Apr 2016 12:23:05 -0700 To: Subject: Early roll call for the Cincinnati Moeller show in 2 weeks From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 15:32:58 -0500 Subject: OBC Photo Gallery ready to go FINAL CALL From: "George Vrechek" OBCers have about 80 member photos ready for posting on the directory page - password protected. It looks like a fun group with some creative photos. If you aren't pictured and would like to be, please send me a .jpg to use. If you feel more photogenic sometime in the future, send me a jpg. Actually it makes life easier for me in the future if everyone is pictured on a 1960-style card created by Tom Housley. If you don't have a card and send two photos: one that can be put in the horizontal alignment of a 1960 card and the other for the vertical side panel, Tom can turn them into a card. I will have your name and image on one handy jpg file that can be easily moved when changes occur as in adding George Altemose at the top of the Word (saved as a pdf) page and moving everyone else over a space. Right now I have to move images and texts. Our dealers are mostly all on cards and can be easily moved. I'll ask Joe Isaac (pictured) to post this on the directory page soon. I'll add in any last minute photos you send before then. Don't be bashful. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 14:07:09 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: WAIVER WIRE WEDNESDAY & Baseball Trivia w/ great Prize Pack From: chris tripler Some stuff Dad and I cleaned up and/or picked up recently....FCFS/Address please. * '61T #s 94, 105* '65T Embossed #s 43, 54, 54* '69T Deckle #26 Allen* '70Ts #s 15,148, 172, 233, 239, 267, 292, 301, 342, 411* '73T Blue Border Team Cards: "*" Angels (with very nice punch holesfor hanging);"**" Phillies mk'd* '74T Red Border Team Cards "*" Brewers (x3), Cubs, Rangers, Yankees, White Sox (all unmk'd) " ** " Cardinals (x3), Expos, Giants (x2, both mk'd), Reds (mk'd), White Sox----------------------------------------------------Trivia Challenge (courtesy of Mark Zentkovich, who's ineligible for the contest, of course)...RULES: no cell phones, no computers, no looking it up...first right answer is winner..PRIZE PACK: '54T #48 BillyHunter, a '62T Green Tint De La Hoz (#123), an EX '63T Whitey Herzog(#106), a '64T Braves TC w/ Aaron (#132), and a '67T High number #582 (DP) Challenge Question: What''s the first name of Yogi Berra's (former) major league Good luck everyone! ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:31:51 -0400 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] WAIVER WIRE WEDNESDAY & Baseball Trivia w/ great Prize Pack From: chris tripler Bob Donaldson is the winner of the trivia challenge! Thank you to so many for Bob, your prize will be in the mail shortly! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2016, at 10:07 AM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Some stuff Dad and I cleaned up and/or picked up recently... > .FCFS/Address please. > * '61T #s 94, 105 > * '65T Embossed #s 43, 54, 54 > * '69T Deckle #26 Allen > * '70Ts #s 15,148, 172, 233, 239, 267, 292, 301, 342, 411 > * '73T Blue Border Team Cards: "*" Angels (with very nice punch holes for > "**" Phillies mk'd > * '74T Red Border Team Cards > "*" Brewers (x3), Cubs, Rangers, Yankees, White Sox (all unmk'd) > " ** " Cardinals (x3), Expos, Giants (x2, both mk'd), Reds (mk'd), White > ---------------------------------------------------- > Trivia Challenge (courtesy of Mark Zentkovich, who's ineligible for the contest, of course)... > RULES: no cell phones, no computers, no looking it up...first right answer is winner.. > PRIZE PACK: '54T #48 Billy Hunter, a '62T Green Tint De La Hoz (#123), an EX '63T Whitey Herzog (#106), a '64T Braves TC w/ Aaron (#132), and a '67T High number #582 (DP) > Challenge Question: What''s the first name of Yogi Berra's (former) majorleague > Good luck everyone! ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 10:33:29 -0400 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] WAIVER WIRE WEDNESDAY & Baseball Trivia w/ great Prize Pack From: chris tripler The winning name was Dale Berra, which everyone knew. Bob answered it within 7 minutes of the challenge being posted. Well done. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 20, 2016, at 10:07 AM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Some stuff Dad and I cleaned up and/or picked up recently... > .FCFS/Address please. > * '61T #s 94, 105 > * '65T Embossed #s 43, 54, 54 > * '69T Deckle #26 Allen > * '70Ts #s 15,148, 172, 233, 239, 267, 292, 301, 342, 411 > * '73T Blue Border Team Cards: "*" Angels (with very nice punch holes for > "**" Phillies mk'd > * '74T Red Border Team Cards > "*" Brewers (x3), Cubs, Rangers, Yankees, White Sox (all unmk'd) > " ** " Cardinals (x3), Expos, Giants (x2, both mk'd), Reds (mk'd), White > ---------------------------------------------------- > Trivia Challenge (courtesy of Mark Zentkovich, who's ineligible for the contest, of course)... > RULES: no cell phones, no computers, no looking it up...first right answer is winner.. > PRIZE PACK: '54T #48 Billy Hunter, a '62T Green Tint De La Hoz (#123), an EX '63T Whitey Herzog (#106), a '64T Braves TC w/ Aaron (#132), and a '67T High number #582 (DP) > Challenge Question: What''s the first name of Yogi Berra's (former) majorleague > Good luck everyone! ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 08:02:17 -0700 To: chris tripler Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] WAIVER WIRE WEDNESDAY & Baseball Trivia w/ great Prize Pack From: Stamper John Stamper 503 Aspen View Ct. Oak Park, Ca. 91377 On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:07 AM, "chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Some stuff Dad and I cleaned up and/or picked up recently... > .FCFS/Address please. > * '61T #s 94, 105 > * '65T Embossed #s 43, 54, 54 > * '69T Deckle #26 Allen > * '70Ts #s 15,148, 172, 233, 239, 267, 292, 301, 342, 411 > * '73T Blue Border Team Cards: "*" Angels (with very nice punch holes for > "**" Phillies mk'd > * '74T Red Border Team Cards > "*" Brewers (x3), Cubs, Rangers, Yankees, White Sox (all unmk'd) > " ** " Cardinals (x3), Expos, Giants (x2, both mk'd), Reds (mk'd), White > ---------------------------------------------------- > Trivia Challenge (courtesy of Mark Zentkovich, who's ineligible for the contest, of course)... > RULES: no cell phones, no computers, no looking it up...first right answer is winner.. > PRIZE PACK: '54T #48 Billy Hunter, a '62T Green Tint De La Hoz (#123), an EX '63T Whitey Herzog (#106), a '64T Braves TC w/ Aaron (#132), and a '67T High number #582 (DP) > Challenge Question: What''s the first name of Yogi Berra's (former) majorleague > Good luck everyone! ================= Date: 20 Apr 2016 08:11:26 -0700 To: Subject: Milt Pappas passes away From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:33:07 -0400 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milt Pappas passes away From: Mike Glasser By coincidence, Jake Arietta also started as an Oriole. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2016 11:11 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Milt Pappas passes away From ESPN.com CHICAGO -- Milt Pappas, who came within a disputed pitch of throwing a perfect game for the Chicago Cubs in 1972 and was part of the lopsided trade that brought Frank Robinson to Baltimore, died Tuesday. He was 76. Pappas, a 6-foot-3 right-hander, had a 209-164 record dur ing his 17-year career with the Baltimore Orioles,Cincinnati Reds, Atl anta Braves and Cubs,finishing with a 3.40 ERA to go along with 1,728 strikeouts and 43 shutouts. Pappas was a teenager when he joined the Orioles in 1957 and he started quickly. "He spent two weeks in the minors and then he was in the major leagues, pitching to Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle," Judi Pappas said. Pappas won at least 10 games every year he was in Baltimore and was part ofthe Baby Birds staff in 196 4, a young rotation with great promise. He wasan All-Star by 1962 and started the Midsummer Classic in July 1965, monthsbefore he and two other players were dealt to Cincinnati for Robinson, thefuture Hall of Famer who won the Triple Crown and was named the World Series MVP in his first season with the Orioles. Pappas was sent to Atlanta two years later; he pitched 2.1 innings of relief and gave up three runs in the 1969 National League Championship Series against the Mets. The Braves sent him to Chicago in 1970. Twice in the next four seasons he won 17 games with the Cubs, including 1972 when he went 17-7 and came within one pitch of throwing a perfect game. Instead he walked San Diego's Larry Stahl with two outs in the bottom of the ninth and finished with a no-hitter. He disputed the call by umpire BruceFroemming for years and Pappas' widow said he forever insisted he had thrown a strike. Pappas' name was in the news a number of times after he retired. In 1987, the body of his then-wife, Carole, who disappeared five years earlier, was found in a vehicle in a pond in suburban Chicago. The coroner determined there was no sign of foul play and the Wheaton police chief said it appeared she was on her way home and accidentally drove into the pond. Last year, Jake Arrieta won his eighth straight start to become the first Cubs pitcher to win that many consecutive games since Pappas won 11 in 1972. Cubs executive chairman Tom Ricketts said the team was saddened by news of Pappas' "Milt will forever be remembered for one of the most dramatic pitching performances in team history as he delivered a no-hitter that neared perfection in 1972," Ricketts said. "We will always consider him part of the ChicagoCubs Though Pappas spent nearly half his career in Baltimore and just four seasons in Chicago, Judi Pappas said he always considered himself a Cub. "He was first and foremost a Cub, absolutely," she said. "He was there (Wrigley Field) for opening day." ================= Date: 20 Apr 2016 12:53:11 -0700 To: Subject: Waivers From: bskp1@aol.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:57:00 -0400 Subject: FW: [VCT] Fw: Two Old Baseball Players From: richard dingman From: mikeandpat@i2k.com To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; Tradingbases@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:50:19 -0400 Subject: [VCT] Fw: Two Old Baseball Players Hi All If you love baseball you will love this.Enjoy 90-year old guys, Leo and Frank, had been friends all of their lives. When it was clear that Leo was dying, Frank visited him every day. One day Frank said' Leo, we both loved playing baseball all our lives, and we played all through High School. Please do me one favor: when you get to Heaven, somehow you must let me know if there's baseball there.' Leo looked up at Frank from his deathbed and said, 'Frank you've been my best friend for many years. If it's at all possible, I'll do this favor for you.' Shortly after that, Leo passed on. A few nights later, Frank was awakened from a sound sleep by a blinding flash of white light and a voice calling out to him, Frank... Frank '.......'Who is it?' asked Frank sitting up suddenly. 'Who is it?' 'Leo-- it's me, Leo'. 'You're not Leo, Leo just died.' 'I'm telling you, it's me, Leo' insisted the voice. 'Leo!....Where are you?' 'In Heaven,' replied Leo. 'I have some really good news and a little bad news.' 'Tell me the good news first,' said Frank. 'The good news,' Leo said, 'is that there's baseball in Heaven. Better yet all of our old buddies who died before us are here, too. Better than that, we're all young again. Better still, it's always springtime, and it never rains or snows. best of all, we can play baseball all we want, and we neverget 'That's fantastic,' said Frank 'It's beyond my wildest dreams! So what's the bad news?' 'You're pitching Tuesday.' No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4556/12068 - Release Date: -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:47:28 -0700 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] WAIVER WIRE WEDNESDAY & Baseball Trivia w/ great Prize Pack From: Stamper Funny stuff Glenn!! John Stamper On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:26 AM, "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > BooBoo. > From: "chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: yahoogroups > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 3:07 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] WAIVER WIRE WEDNESDAY & Baseball Trivia w/ greatPrize > Trivia Challenge (courtesy of Mark Zentkovich, who's ineligible for the contest, of course)... > RULES: no cell phones, no computers, no looking it up...first right answer is winner.. > PRIZE PACK: '54T #48 Billy Hunter, a '62T Green Tint De La Hoz (#123), an EX '63T Whitey Herzog (#106), a '64T Braves TC w/ Aaron (#132), and a '67T High number #582 (DP) > Challenge Question: What''s the first name of Yogi Berra's (former) majorleague > Good luck everyone! ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 23:26:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Milt Pappas passes away From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Pretty sad, as I have gotten a few autographs from him at National's past. The one year I brought Amanda with me, he turned to her and asked "he made you come here, didn't he?" The one stat that always stands out for me was his 99 wins in the AL and over 100 in the NL. He fell just short of something not many have done. I remember him mostly with the Cubs, but he had a pretty damn good career. It's a shame his record is overshadowed by the trade with the Orioles for Frank Robinson. He held up his end of the deal. RIP Milt, your auto was always worth the wait in line... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/20/2016 11:11:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: From ESPN.com CHICAGO -- Milt Pappas, who came within a disputed pitch of throwing a perfect game for the _Chicago Cubs_ (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/chc/chicago-cubs) in 1972 and was partof the lopsided trade that brought Frank Robinson to Baltimore, died Tuesday. He was 76. Pappas, a 6-foot-3 right-hander, had a 209-164 record dur ing his 17-year career with the _Baltimore Orioles_ (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-orioles) ,_Cincinnati Reds_ (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-reds) , _Atl anta Braves_ (http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-braves) and Cubs, finishing with a 3.40 ERA to go along with 1,728 strikeouts and 43 shutouts. Pappas was a teenager when he joined the Orioles in 1957 and he started "He spent two weeks in the minors and then he was in the major leagues, pitching to Ted Williams and Mickey Mantle," Judi Pappas said. Pappas won at least 10 games every year he was in Baltimore and was part of the Baby Birds staff in 196 4, a young rotation with great promise. He was an All-Star by 1962 and started the Midsummer Classic in July 1965, months before he and two other players were dealt to Cincinnati for Robinson, the future Hall of Famer who won the Triple Crown and was named the World Series MVP in his first season with the Orioles. Pappas was sent to Atlanta two years later; he pitched 2.1 innings of relief and gave up three runs in the 1969 National League Championship Series against the Mets. The Braves sent him to Chicago in 1970. Twice in the next four seasons he won 17 games with the Cubs, including 1972 when he went 17-7 and came within one pitch of throwing a perfect game. Instead he walked San Diego's Larry Stahl with two outs in the bottom of the ninth and finished with a no-hitter. He disputed the call by umpire Bruce Froemming for years and Pappas' widow said he forever insisted he had thrown a strike. Pappas' name was in the news a number of times after he retired. In 1987, the body of his then-wife, Carole, who disappeared five years earlier, was found in a vehicle in a pond in suburban Chicago. The coroner determined there was no sign of foul play and the Wheaton police chief said it appeared she was on her way home and accidentally drove into the pond. Last year, _Jake Arrieta_ (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/30145/jake-arrieta) won his eighth straight start to become the first Cubs pitcher to win that many consecutive games since Pappas won 11 in 1972. Cubs executive chairman Tom Ricketts said the team was saddened by news of Pappas' death. "Milt will forever be remembered for one of the most dramatic pitching performances in team history as he delivered a no-hitter that neared perfection in 1972," Ricketts said. "We will always consider him part of the Cubs family." Though Pappas spent nearly half his career in Baltimore and just four seasons in Chicago, Judi Pappas said he always considered himself a Cub. "He was first and foremost a Cub, absolutely," she said. "He was there (Wrigley Field) for opening day." ================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 00:57:58 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Sometimes I just SMH! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Check this out.. after a little research on Ebay, there have been articles about him going back to 2007.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOB-GIBSON-1959-TOPPS-514-ROOKIE-GRADED-GEM-MINT-10- Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 22:07:20 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Venezuelans From: Rick Got my latest shipment from my "guy" in Venezuela. Got four 62's, bunch of 70's winter league cards they aren't in the SCD not sure why I guess that'sa question for George to solve. Bunch of 73 winter league stickers and this 72 winter league album with all but five stickers in it. It's in pretty bad shape but albums don't really exist anymore so I'm excited to have it. He has a 70 album with all but a few cards in it but wants quite a bit for it but it's my next goal. ================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 08:44:42 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Sometimes I just SMH! From: Ken M Wow. That card is almost bad enough to get a 10 from Guru's Grading Service. I guess you're paying for the holder and not the card in this case :-) Ken M - gem mint 10 athlete Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]Date: Thu, Apr 21, 2016 12:58 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Sometimes I just SMH! Check this out.. after a little research on Ebay, there have been articles about him going back to 2007.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOB-GIBSON-1959-TOPPS-514-ROOKIE-GRADED-GEM-MINT-10-/171398105545?hash=item27e81f89c9:g:SBcAAOSwEK9T0nd~  Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Rick , OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 09:35:02 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans [4 Attachments] From: Aaron Shirley This is an amazing album. Wow, dude. Since it's actually kinda rare, you should scan each page for posterity. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 22:07:20 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Venezuelans [4 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Rick included below] Got my latest shipment from my "guy" in Venezuela. Got four 62's, bunch of 70's winter league cards they aren't in the SCD not sure why I guess that'sa question for George to solve. Bunch of 73 winter league stickers and this 72 winter league album with all but five stickers in it. It's in pretty bad shape but albums don't really exist anymore so I'm excited to have it. He has a 70 album with all but a few cards in it but wants quite a bit for it but it's my next goal. Sent from my iPad=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 13:28:49 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: TJ and his Sister (Donor) at Be The Match Walk-a-thon last weekend From: smartalecx@aol.com http://clients.micheletaylorphoto.com/bethematchrunwalk/ Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 13:30:30 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Photo from Be The Match Run+Walk Collection From: smartalecx@aol.com Take a look at this photo from Be The Match Run+Walk collection by Michele Taylor Photography: http://clients.micheletaylorphoto.com/bethematchrunwalk/p/NDgyOTU2MTI3-MjgxMTM2OTY2/ The TJ Strong team! Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:38:01 -0500 Subject: Fantasy baseball cards and Wrigley report From: "George Vrechek" Per my visit to Wrigley Field today, while the Cubs are away, I see they have gotten into fantasy baseball card creation like our very own Tom Housley. Here are cards of 3 players in 1980s formats as displayed at the Addison El stop. They have done a pretty good job of cleaning up the place and restoring some of the original architectural features. Also building an annex nearby. It is worth a visit if you haven't been there in a couple of years. It is a little schmaltzy in places with the statues and decorations, but they haven't planted ivy (yet) around the metal detectors. It will be a few years before the current projects are completed. ================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 17:18:24 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Excuses from Massachusetts From: Sean McGowan I know you don't need excuses, because we all know how life goes from to time. Well, I have this friend Jim, who is a very successful and the biggest sox fan in NH. He takes my friend Mike and I to all sorts games, with his office and without, and not just Sox.... He took me along his office outing and I got to watch the Pats destroy my 'skins 51-7 or so, few seasons ago. The 4 of us who travel as a pack spent the weekend up in Montreal, watching both Sox-Jays exhibitions at Olympic Stadium. The was a blast, as expected. Jim was at my house the day before the Sox home opener, to leave me two tickes for the second game (against the O's!) and was very excited to see his first opening day with his new season tickets. Jim Left my house, drove home to NH, and died in his sleep. So, you can imagine my state lately. I have cards and even coins, from sitting on my desk waiting for thank-yous... Hopefully I won't srew them up or leave someone out. But, If you sent stuff an haven't heard, you know I attached a jpg of the obit, and a picture of Mike, Mike, Sean (right) and Jim(front) from Jim's 50th b-day, which happened to coincide with Fenway's 100th. He was the best. So, go hug your friends and loved ones. Go OBC. Sean (1) ================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 17:19:47 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: excuses from andover From: Sean McGowan apparently I can't attach two files... here is the obit. Miss you Jim. ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 00:48:24 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: article about ty cobb From: mark zentkovich fyi if anyone has interest a good read Who Was Ty Cobb? The History We Know That=E2=99s Wrong | | | | | Who Was Ty Cobb? The History We Know That=E2=99s Wrong Ty Cobb was one of the greatest baseball players of all time and king of the so-called Deadball Era. But for all... | | mark z ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Yahoo Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 00:54:33 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1888 Kinney Bros Cards [5 Attachments] From: Taylor Schock The are N239 Racehorses premiums, specifically the Great American Trotters subset which was 10x12 and consisted of 25 cards. There are Famous Running Horses (American and English) subsets to these also, but those were only 8x10 in size. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 5:28 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: 1888 Kinney Bros Cards [5 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Yahoo included below] Anybody have any information on these?. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: bucknutt2008@gmail.com Date: April 21, 2016 at 17:23:54 EDT To: bucknutt2008@yahoo.com Subject: Fwd: 1888 Kinney Bros Cards Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Marc Manoli > Date: April 21, 2016 at 14:15:18 EDT To: > Subject: 1888 Kinney Bros Cards I am in possession of two Kinney bros cards. I came across your posting of interest in tobacco cards. Here are the photos please see the photos for the measurements as well. They are in rather good condition with minimal creasing one has a slight bit of water damage also minimal. The subjects are great and I have not been able to find another example of these. Let me know of your interest and what price you would be willing to go. Marc Manoli The Uptown Store Lee, Ma 01238 www.theuptownstore.org ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 02:34:23 +0000 (UTC) To: "Mandell, Gary" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Photo from Be The Match Run+Walk Collection From: tvalacak@comcast.net A big thank you to Gary for coming out and supporting us on Saturday. We had beautiful weather here in Chicago - 70's, sunshine and blue skies. The event has raised over $100k for the Be The Match foundation. Even more impressive to me, 49 new people registered to become part of the donor registry. For those who are not familiar with Be The Match, it is an organization that raises money for bone marrow transplant research, provides financial assistance patients in financial need, and maintains the countries largest donor registry. If you are a registered donor, thank you! If not, please get onboard. Quite simply, you are becoming part of a group that saves lives. And, if you are lucky enough to be selected as a donor, you save a life. That's a pretty powerful impact. Thanks again for those who sent some well wishes for the event. And thanks for all who support. ----- Original Message ----- From: "smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 12:30:30 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Photo from Be The Match Run+Walk Collection Take a look at this photo from Be The Match Run+Walk collection by Michele Taylor Photography: http://clients.micheletaylorphoto.com/bethematchrunwalk/p/NDgyOTU2MTI3-MjgxMTM2OTY2/ The TJ Strong team! Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 11:34:26 -0400 Subject: 66 high #'s From: Shawn Smart They sure are tough aren't they! http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT=09=09=09=09=09 ================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" , Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:04:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: Shawn Smart How many do you have Aaron? I am not even half way through the set, but I monitor a lot of high number stuff on Ebay, and I didn't realize how tough that one was - even in bad shape. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; shawnsmart@hotmail.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 15:59:02 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s That card sure is...Grant Jackson is part of the reason, but I think there is a certain OBC hoarder coveting and acquiring the Bart Shirley card, driving up demand :-) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s They sure are tough aren't they! http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 11:08:03 -0500 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: "ricktopps@aol.com" I hope I am not the hoarder driving up prices. I used to pick up the Jackson cards from time to time, but they have become very hard to find at reasonable prices. It has definitely become harder in the past 5 years. I don't think any one person can drive up prices unless that person buys everything available even as the prices become inflated. If any of us have a 5000 cardmonster box of 1966 Jackson rookies then it's time to fess up. I do think it's crazy how that card has become so much more expensive than other shortprints from the same year?? Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > That card sure is...Grant Jackson is part of the reason, but I think there is a certain OBC hoarder coveting and acquiring the Bart Shirley card , driving up demand :-) > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s > They sure are tough aren't they! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 11:12:32 -0500 To: "ricktopps@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: OBC Nick P I've heard somebody is hoarding the 66 Jackson. Not an obcer but somebody from New York I think. I've not heard a number for just how many are in the I've definitely heard one person is hoarding the card from more than one source. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 22, 2016, at 11:08 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I hope I am not the hoarder driving up prices. I used to pick up the Jackson cards from time to time, but they have become very hard to find at reasonable prices. It has definitely become harder in the past 5 years. I don'tthink any one person can drive up prices unless that person buys everything available even as the prices become inflated. If any of us have a 5000 card monster box of 1966 Jackson rookies then it's time to fess up. I do think it's crazy how that card has become so much more expensive than other short prints from the same year?? > Rick Johnson > Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> That card sure is...Grant Jackson is part of the reason, but I think there is a certain OBC hoarder coveting and acquiring the Bart Shirley card , driving up demand :-) >> OBC Forever, >> Brian >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s >> They sure are tough aren't they! >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 09:22:57 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: "Grant Rainsley" And then there=E2=99s this guy: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11411892/mysterious-curt-flood-card-collector-chases-1964-baseball-card From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 9:13 AM To: ricktopps@aol.com; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s I've heard somebody is hoarding the 66 Jackson. Not an obcer but somebody from New York I think. I've not heard a number for just how many are in the I've definitely heard one person is hoarding the card from more than one source. Nick Pelletier On Apr 22, 2016, at 11:08 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I hope I am not the hoarder driving up prices. I used to pick up the Jackson cards from time to time, but they have become very hard to find at reasonable prices. It has definitely become harder in the past 5 years. I don't think any one person can drive up prices unless that person buys everything available even as the prices become inflated. If any of us have a 5000 cardmonster box of 1966 Jackson rookies then it's time to fess up. I do think it's crazy how that card has become so much more expensive than other shortprints from the same year?? Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] That card sure is...Grant Jackson is part of the reason, but I think there is a certain OBC hoarder coveting and acquiring the Bart Shirley card , driving up demand :-) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s They sure are tough aren't they! http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649 &ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= To: Grant Rainsley , 'OBC Ramblings' Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:31:10 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: Shawn Smart That is a great story! and explains why it is probably still on my wantlist. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 09:22:57 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s And then there=92s this guy: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11411892/mysterious-curt-flood-card-collector-chases-1964-baseball-card From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 9:13 AM To: ricktopps@aol.com; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s I've heard somebody is hoarding the 66 Jackson. Not an obcer but somebody from New York I think. I've notheard a number for just how many are in the collection. I've definitely heard one person is hoarding the card from more than one source.Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com On Apr 22, 2016, at 11:08 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I hope I am not the hoarder driving up prices. I used to pick up the Jackson cards from time to time, but they have become very hard to find at reasonable prices. It has definitely become harder in the past 5 years. I don't think any one person can drive up prices unless that person buys everything available even as the prices become inflated. If any of us have a 5000 card monster box of 1966 Jackson rookies then it's time to fess up. I do think it's crazy how that card has become so much more expensive than other short prints from the same year?? Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: That card sure is...Grant Jacksonis part of the reason, but I think there is a certain OBC hoarder covetingand acquiring the Bart Shirley card , driving up demand :-) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s They sure are tough aren't they! http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName= ================= Date: 22 Apr 2016 10:19:35 -0700 To: Subject: Re: 66 high #'s From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:28:41 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 66 high #'s From: JAY TYSVER Need to get you started on the Partridge Family Cards and build up your Shirley Jones collection. Jay Tysver To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 10:19:35 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 66 high #'s Interesting. I only have one. Honest. Thanks mostly to OBC, I have nine of Bart's 1967 card, but only 3 or 4 of his 1969 - his third and final major card. I have nine of most of Bob Shirley's major releases as well. Bart Shirley's true number one fan, Aaron SHIRLEY ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:04:21 -0400 Subject: 59 Aaron poor ebay From: Shawn Smart I figured this belongs in OBC http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Topps-380-Hank-Aaron-Braves-filler-card-/191849269009?hashitem2cab1b8711:g:UXUAAOSwKfVXEWoL ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:30:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Will be in sonoma for over a month From: Anthony Hello , Have s task force gig at a hotel until mid June . Who is out that way ? Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:39:32 -0400 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 Aaron poor ebay From: Jake Elwell Thanks for the free plug, Shawn ;-) Free PWE shipping for OBCers! > On Apr 22, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I figured this belongs in OBC > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Topps-380-Hank-Aaron-Braves-filler-card-/191849269009?hashitem2cab1b8711:g:UXUAAOSwKfVXEWoL ================= To: Jake Elwell Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:40:38 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 Aaron poor ebay From: Shawn Smart so its already in OBC! Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 Aaron poor ebay From: jelwell8@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:39:32 -0400 CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com Thanks for the free plug, Shawn ;-)Free PWE shipping for OBCers! On Apr 22, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I figured this belongs in OBC http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Topps-380-Hank-Aaron-Braves-filler-card-/191849269009?hashitem2cab1b8711:g:UXUAAOSwKfVXEWoL ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:04:40 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 Aaron poor ebay From: JAY TYSVER If someone does buy it, I understand Jake will be looking for a replacementfor the one he is selling on Ebay. Good RAOK idea. Jay Tysver CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: shawnsmart@hotmail.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 14:39:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 Aaron poor ebay Thanks for the free plug, Shawn ;-)Free PWE shipping for OBCers! On Apr 22, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I figured this belongs in OBC http://www.ebay.com/itm/1959-Topps-380-Hank-Aaron-Braves-filler-card-/191849269009?hashitem2cab1b8711:g:UXUAAOSwKfVXEWoL ================= Date: 22 Apr 2016 16:07:46 -0700 To: Subject: Bucket List Trip From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 22:27:38 -0400 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: Doug DeJong One that I am curious about .... the article says "Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population". That suggests there are about 16,000 of the cards. Is that an accurate reflection of the number of cards from the era that exist? Seems low, but I have never seen any estimates of how many cards from various years are out there. Any On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:49 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > What a weirdo that Flood collector is...(says a guy trying to acquire a > thousand 1971 Topps FB #186 Jim Kiick) > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *Grant Rainsley, 'OBC Ramblings' > *Sent: *April 22, 2016 at 9:33 AM > *Subject: *RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s > That is a great story! and explains why it is probably still on my > wantlist. > ------------------------------ > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 09:22:57 -0700 > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s > And then there=E2=99s this guy: > http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11411892/mysterious-curt-flood-card-collector-chases-1964-baseball-card > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *OBC Nick P > nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2016 9:13 AM > *To:* ricktopps@aol.com; OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s > I've heard somebody is hoarding the 66 Jackson. Not an obcer but somebody > from New York I think. I've not heard a number for just how many are in > the collection. > I've definitely heard one person is hoarding the card from more than one > source. > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > On Apr 22, 2016, at 11:08 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I hope I am not the hoarder driving up prices. I used to pick up the > Jackson cards from time to time, but they have become very hard to find at > reasonable prices. It has definitely become harder in the past 5 years. I > don't think any one person can drive up prices unless that person buys > everything available even as the prices become inflated. If any of us have > a 5000 card monster box of 1966 Jackson rookies then it's time to fess up. > I do think it's crazy how that card has become so much more expensive than > other short prints from the same year?? > Rick Johnson > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > That card sure is...Grant Jackson is part of the reason, but I think there > is a certain OBC hoarder coveting and acquiring the Bart Shirley card , > driving up demand :-) > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent: *April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s > They sure are tough aren't they! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT > ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 02:46:28 +0000 (UTC) To: Doug DeJong , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s From: Mike Mackie I thought the same thing. That would imply that there only exist 12,000 complete 1966 sets. Fortunately I have one. Mike Mackie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] One that I am curious about .... the article says "Today he owns some4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population". That suggests there are about 16,000 of the cards. Is that an accurate reflection of the number of cards from the era that exist? Seems low, but Ihave never seen any estimates of how many cards from various years are outthere. Any ideas? On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:49 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] What a weirdo that Flood collector is...(says a guy trying to acquire a thousand 1971 Topps FB #186 Jim Kiick) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Grant Rainsley, 'OBC Ramblings' Sent: April 22, 2016 at 9:33 AM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s That is a great story! and explains why it is probably still on my wantlist. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 09:22:57 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s And then there=E2=99s this guy: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11411892/mysterious-curt-flood-card-collector-chases-1964-baseball-card From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 9:13 AM To: ricktopps@aol.com; OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s I've heard somebody is hoarding the 66 Jackson. Not an obcer but somebody from New York I think. I've not heard a number for just how manyare in the collection. I've definitely heard one person is hoarding the card from more than one Nick Pelletier On Apr 22, 2016, at 11:08 AM, 'ricktopps@aol.com' ricktopps@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I hope I am not the hoarder driving up prices. I used to pick up the Jackson cards from time to time, but they have become very hard to find at reasonable prices. It has definitely become harder in the past 5 years. I don't think any one person can drive up prices unless that person buys everything available even as the prices become inflated. If any of us have a 5000 cardmonster box of 1966 Jackson rookies then it's time to fess up. I do think it's crazy how that card has become so much more expensive than other shortprints from the same year?? Rick Johnson Sent from my iPhone On Apr 22, 2016, at 10:59 AM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] That card sure is...Grant Jackson is part of the reason, but I think there is a certain OBC hoarder coveting and acquiring the Bart Shirley card , driving up demand :-) OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: April 22, 2016 at 8:34 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 high #'s They sure are tough aren't they! http://www.ebay.com/itm/111967023255?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 21:57:53 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Rittenberg update From: Steve Rittenberg Great news. My wife, Gina, had a bone marrow biopsy today. Her leukemia is considered "CRI". COMPLETE REMISSION with insufficient platelets. This a great news but it comes with a big caveat. She cannot leave the hospital until she no longer needs continuous platelets. Maybe this might happen as soon as Monday. The next step after discharge will probably be outpatient treatment. We might be coming here every day for several hours each day. And then we will be coming back for more chemotherapy. Thank you for all the prayers and support you have graced us with. Today is a major milestone but we have a ways to go. ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 23:07:14 -0400 To: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: Doug DeJong Fantastic news Steve!! Thanks for sharing. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Great news. My wife, Gina, had a bone marrow biopsy today. Her > leukemia is considered "CRI". COMPLETE REMISSION with insufficient > platelets. This a great news but it comes with a big caveat. She > cannot leave the hospital until she no longer needs continuous > platelets. Maybe this might happen as soon as Monday. The next step > after discharge will probably be outpatient treatment. We might be > coming here every day for several hours each day. And then we will be > coming back for more chemotherapy. > Thank you for all the prayers and support you have graced us with. > Today is a major milestone but we have a ways to go. > Steve ================= Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 23:11:09 -0400 To: ddejong17@gmail.com, srittenberg@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Steve Rittenberg Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 11:07 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update Fantastic news Steve!! Thanks for sharing. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Great news. My wife, Gina, had a bone marrow biopsy today. Her leukemia is considered "CRI". COMPLETE REMISSION with insufficient platelets. This a great news but it comes with a big caveat. She cannot leave the hospital until she no longer needs continuous platelets. Maybe this might happen as soon as Monday. The next step after discharge will probably be outpatient treatment. We might be coming here every day for several hours each day. And then we will be coming back for more chemotherapy. Thank you for all the prayers and support you have graced us with. Today is a major milestone but we have a ways to go. ================= Date: 23 Apr 2016 05:44:34 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the OBC-Ramblings File : /_OBC Master list Rev APR 2016.doc Uploaded by : tomhousley_2000 Description : An in-progress attempt to create a master list of everyone who's ever been in OBC You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/files/_OBC%20Master%20list%20Rev%20APR%202016.doc To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398 tomhousley_2000 ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:59:40 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: postage due From: John Dahms hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guess I take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it andnot worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happen moving forward. thanks and have a good saturday John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 08:55:26 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Texas vacation From: Raymond Luurs Going on vacation starting April 28th through May 5th . Will be in Dallas on 28th and 29 taking the Rangers game on friday night. On Saturday and Sunday in San Antonio and may 2 fo sure taking the Astro Twins game on my birthday if antone wants to me up for lunch or dinner let me know and see if i can work something out to meet and greet. ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:45:42 -0400 To: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Doug DeJong I have had several flats and one puffy that arrived postage due. Our mail deliverer won't cover them so we get a notice in our box and have to head to the post office to pay the extra $0.20 or whatever; the puffy may have been held hostage for a buck or so at the most. Not a big deal and I don't recall who they came from. My wife was told the thickness was the issue and therefore she tries to take all of my flats to the post office so they can weigh and measure them. Our post office is nearby and my wife doesn't work outside the home so it isn't a big deal; hopefully I haven't caused too many of you extra charges! Doug DeJong On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 8:59 AM, John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady > recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put > it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck > forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post > office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any > like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have > been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I > guess I take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said > anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay > it and not worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has > received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure > it doesn't happen moving forward. > thanks and have a good saturday > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:51:30 -0400 To: ddejong17@gmail.com, jd3681@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Thank you for bringing up this issue. I guess it is worth throwing the extra stamp on the envelope when in doubt to avoid sending a postage due envelope. I just mailed out 8 envelopes on Monday and have another dozen or so to take to the PO. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: John Dahms Cc: OBC ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 10:45 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due I have had several flats and one puffy that arrived postage due. Our mail deliverer won't cover them so we get a notice in our box and have to head to the post office to pay the extra $0.20 or whatever; the puffy may have been held hostage for a buck or so at the most. Not a big deal and I don't recall who they came from. My wife was told the thickness was the issue andtherefore she tries to take all of my flats to the post office so they canweigh and measure them. Our post office is nearby and my wife doesn't work outside the home so it isn't a big deal; hopefully I haven't caused too many of you extra charges! Doug DeJong On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 8:59 AM, John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guess I take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it andnot worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happen moving forward. thanks and have a good saturday John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:02:40 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Mike Glasser It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 9:05 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guess I take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it andnot worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happen moving forward. thanks and have a good saturday John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: "srittenberg@gmail.com" Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:03:17 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: richard dingman Great news Steve, thanks for sharing! Richard D To: ddejong17@gmail.com; srittenberg@gmail.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 23:11:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Doug DeJong ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Steve Rittenberg Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 11:07 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update Fantastic news Steve!! Thanks for sharing. On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:57 PM, Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Great news. My wife, Gina, had a bone marrow biopsy today. Her leukemia is considered "CRI". COMPLETE REMISSION with insufficient platelets. This a great news but it comes with a big caveat. She cannot leave the hospital until she no longer needs continuous platelets. Maybe this might happen as soon as Monday. The next step after discharge will probably be outpatient treatment. We might be coming here every day for several hours each day. And then we will be coming back for more chemotherapy. Thank you for all the prayers and support you have graced us with. Today is a major milestone but we have a ways to go. ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 11:19:11 -0500 To: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rittenberg update From: Jay Tysver Awesome news! Jay Tysver > On Apr 22, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Steve Rittenberg srittenberg@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Great news. My wife, Gina, had a bone marrow biopsy today. Her > leukemia is considered "CRI". COMPLETE REMISSION with insufficient > platelets. This a great news but it comes with a big caveat. She > cannot leave the hospital until she no longer needs continuous > platelets. Maybe this might happen as soon as Monday. The next step > after discharge will probably be outpatient treatment. We might be > coming here every day for several hours each day. And then we will be > coming back for more chemotherapy. > Thank you for all the prayers and support you have graced us with. > Today is a major milestone but we have a ways to go. > Steve ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 12:12:21 -0500 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Nate Mack I picked up a small electronic kitchen scale on the cheap. It measures ounces and grams. On ounces mode if the envelope is 0.47 (or forever stamp), then over an ounce an additional 0.21 cent stamp is needed for each ounce. Bubble mailers are 2.45 for the first 3 ounces, then 0.19 cents per additional Hope this helps... I like using the electronic scale. Took all the guess work out of it. Some envelopes weight in at 1.05 ounces and this need that"extra ounce" stamp. Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I agree. I'd want to know if it was me. On the rare occasion that I do send out a bunch of envelopes, I try to eyeball them and stick an extra stampon the thicker ones. But then I pat myself on the back for being so thrifty and clever with the borderline envelopes. I don't ever recall getting anypostage due stuff and I always thought they got returned to you for insufficient postage (although I may have omitted postage entirely on those - oops). I'd hate to think people were paying my postage. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 12:02 PM > To: jd3681@yahoo.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > !-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > JD: > It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. > Mike > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > -----Original Message----- > From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: OBC ramblings > > Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 9:05 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it inmy box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. soI will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guess I take forgranted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it and not worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received somethingfrom me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happen moving > thanks and have a good saturday > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:14:45 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Set info From: nick pelletier How difficult is the1951 Berk Ross set? I recently picked up a type card because it was priced right and cool. Is it worth trying to do the whole set or does it get silly difficult and expensive? Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 13:33:04 -0400 To: Nate Mack Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Doug DeJong The problem is they charge extra for thicker packages.....I have had several packages with electronic produced postage affixed that weight wise were fine but they exceeded the thickness standard of a single stamp. Thus the postage due. I don't totally get it but that was the Post Office's response to me. On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I picked up a small electronic kitchen scale on the cheap. It measures > ounces and grams. On ounces mode if the envelope is 0.47 (or forever > stamp), then over an ounce an additional 0.21 cent stamp is needed for each > ounce. > Bubble mailers are 2.45 for the first 3 ounces, then 0.19 cents per > additional ounce > Hope this helps... I like using the electronic scale. Took all the guess > work out of it. Some envelopes weight in at 1.05 ounces and this need that > "extra ounce" stamp. > Thanks > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I agree. I'd want to know if it was me. On the rare occasion that I do > send out a bunch of envelopes, I try to eyeball them and stick an extra > stamp on the thicker ones. But then I pat myself on the back for being so > thrifty and clever with the borderline envelopes. I don't ever recall > getting any postage due stuff and I always thought they got returned to you > for insufficient postage (although I may have omitted postage entirely on > those - oops). I'd hate to think people were paying my postage. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > *From: *Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com <+miglasser@aol.com> > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Date: *Sat, Apr 23, 2016 12:02 PM > *To: *jd3681@yahoo.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > *Cc: * > *Subject:*Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > !-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > JD: > It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending > them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. > Mike > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > -----Original Message----- > From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com <+jd3681@yahoo.com> [OBC-Ramblings] > > <%3COBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC ramblings > <%3COBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 9:05 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady > recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put > it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck > forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post > office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any > like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have > been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I > guess I take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said > anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay > it and not worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has > received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure > it doesn't happen moving forward. > thanks and have a good saturday > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 13:40:55 -0400 To: Nate Mack Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Andy Huntoon I have a deal with my postmaster here. I give him a bottle of Laphroaig 18 year single malt every Christmas and I never pay for postage. Also, I have some pigs that fly for sale if anyone wants one. =9C Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I picked up a small electronic kitchen scale on the cheap. It measures ounces and grams. On ounces mode if the envelope is 0.47 (or forever stamp), then over an ounce an additional 0.21 cent stamp is needed for each ounce. > Bubble mailers are 2.45 for the first 3 ounces, then 0.19 cents per additional > Hope this helps... I like using the electronic scale. Took all the guess work out of it. Some envelopes weight in at 1.05 ounces and this need that "extra ounce" stamp. > Thanks > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I agree. I'd want to know if it was me. On the rare occasion that I do send out a bunch of envelopes, I try to eyeball them and stick an extra stamp on the thicker ones. But then I pat myself on the back for being so thrifty and clever with the borderline envelopes. I don't ever recall getting any postage due stuff and I always thought they got returned to you for insufficient postage (although I may have omitted postage entirely on those - oops). I'd hate to think people were paying my postage. >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 12:02 PM >> To: jd3681@yahoo.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; >> Cc: >> Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due >> !-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> >> JD: >> It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. >> Mike >> Mike Glasser >> Owner >> The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD >> The Goddard School in Sparks, MD >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > >> To: OBC ramblings > >> Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 9:05 am >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due >> hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this.that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guess I take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it and not worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happenmoving >> thanks and have a good saturday >> JD >> John Dahms >> 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 >> Jackson, MI >> 49202 >> I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. >> http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 13:52:13 -0400 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Shawn Smart ================= To: Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:02:29 -0500 Subject: Members Photo Gallery From: "George Vrechek" The updated version of the members photo gallery draft is attached. We have 84 members pictured and 22 dealers. If you aren't pictured yet, you'll probably be on the wantlist of member trading cards, so send me a photo or two of yourself. Thanks. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:17:08 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set info From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en More than likely silly and expensive, but that is just based on the Dodgers I see on Ebay..but a neat little set to collect for sure! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/23/2016 1:14:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: How difficult is the1951 Berk Ross set? I recently picked up a type card because it was priced right and cool. Is it worth trying to do the whole set or does it get silly difficult and expensive? Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:21:10 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I was told if they handle it at the desk, they have to charge the extra on it. I got hinted to drop it in a mailbox my self. So far, all those envelopes have gone through no problem. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/23/2016 1:33:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: The problem is they charge extra for thicker packages.....I have had several packages with electronic produced postage affixed that weight wisewere fine but they exceeded the thickness standard of a single stamp. Thus the postage due. I don't totally get it but that was the Post Office's response to me. On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Nate Mack _nmack03@yahoo.com_ (mailto:nmack03@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I picked up a small electronic kitchen scale on the cheap. It measures ounces and grams. On ounces mode if the envelope is 0.47 (or forever stamp), then over an ounce an additional 0.21 cent stamp is needed for each ounce. Bubble mailers are 2.45 for the first 3 ounces, then 0.19 cents per additional ounce Hope this helps... I like using the electronic scale. Took all the guess work out of it. Some envelopes weight in at 1.05 ounces and this need that "extra ounce" stamp. Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ken M _cardclctor@aol.com_ (mailto:cardclctor@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I agree. I'd want to know if it was me. On the rare occasion that I do send out a bunch of envelopes, I try to eyeball them and stick an extra stamp on the thicker ones. But then I pat myself on the back for being so thrifty and clever with the borderline envelopes. I don't ever recall getting any postage due stuff and I always thought they got returned to you for insufficient postage (although I may have omitted postage entirely on those oops). I'd hate to think people were paying my postage. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: Mike Glasser_ miglasser@aol.com_ (mailto:+miglasser@aol.com) Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 12:02 PM To: _jd3681@yahoo.com_ (mailto:jd3681@yahoo.com) _;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) ; Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due !-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: John Dahms_ jd3681@yahoo.com_ (mailto:+jd3681@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] _>_ (mailto:_ (mailto:, Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 22:48:32 -0500 Subject: OBC Members Photo Gallery From: "George Vrechek" Photos of OBCers and OBC certified dealers can now be found on the Directory page right under the line for addresses. The page is accessed by using the same user name and password you use for other purposes on the OBC website. Any updates or additions can be sent to me. Thanks to all involved especially Tom Housley for the great OBC baseball cards. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 04:04:36 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wrapper Collectors From: ChicoD1@aol.com I am thinking of adding a wrapper to each of the sets I am working on or finished. Is there any kind of price guide for these? I know there are VARIATIONS also to a number of them. Does anyone have maybe an approximate breakdown of prices say of what 50s, 60s, 70s wrappers I can expect to pay? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 08:38:49 -0400 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] OBC Members Photo Gallery From: Anthony I second that What a team Sent from my iPad > On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:48 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Thanks] wrote: > Photos of OBCers and OBC certified dealers can now be found on the Directory page right under the line for addresses. The page is accessed by using the same user name and password you use for other purposes on the OBC website. Any updates or additions can be sent to me. Thanks to all involved especially Tom Housley for the great OBC baseball cards. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 09:25:08 -0400 To: cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com, nmack03@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Funny. When my brother in law retired last year, I actually did get him a bottle of 18 year old Laphroaig. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Nate Mack Cc: Ken M ; obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 1:41 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due I have a deal with my postmaster here. I give him a bottle of Laphroaig 18 year single malt every Christmas and I never pay for postage. Also, I have some pigs that fly for sale if anyone wants one. =9C Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] I picked up a small electronic kitchen scale on the cheap. It measures ounces and grams. On ounces mode if the envelope is 0.47 (or forever stamp), then over an ounce an additional 0.21 cent stamp is needed for each ounce. Bubble mailers are 2.45 for the first 3 ounces, then 0.19 cents per additional Hope this helps... I like using the electronic scale. Took all the guess work out of it. Some envelopes weight in at 1.05 ounces and this need that"extra ounce" stamp. Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I agree. I'd want to know if it was me. On the rare occasion that I do sendout a bunch of envelopes, I try to eyeball them and stick an extra stamp on the thicker ones. But then I pat myself on the back for being so thrifty and clever with the borderline envelopes. I don't ever recall getting any postage due stuff and I always thought they got returned to you for insufficient postage (although I may have omitted postage entirely on those - oops). I'd hate to think people were paying my postage. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 12:02 PM To: jd3681@yahoo.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due !-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD The Goddard School in Sparks, MD -----Original Message----- From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC ramblings > Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 9:05 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it in my box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. so I will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have beensending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guessI take for granted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it and not worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received something from me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happen moving forward. thanks and have a good saturday John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 09:37:47 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due From: Andy Huntoon Glad to hear a couple folks know Laphroaig. It's my current favorite. And Glenn, we'll have to toast a glass if we ever get the chance! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 24, 2016, at 9:25 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: > Funny. When my brother in law retired last year, I actually did get him a bottle of 18 year old Laphroaig. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Nate Mack > Cc: Ken M ; obc-ramblings > Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 1:41 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > I have a deal with my postmaster here. I give him a bottle of Laphroaig 18 year single malt every Christmas and I never pay for postage. > Also, I have some pigs that fly for sale if anyone wants one. =9C > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2016, at 1:12 PM, Nate Mack nmack03@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I picked up a small electronic kitchen scale on the cheap. It measures ounces and grams. On ounces mode if the envelope is 0.47 (or forever stamp), then over an ounce an additional 0.21 cent stamp is needed for each ounce. > Bubble mailers are 2.45 for the first 3 ounces, then 0.19 cents per additional > Hope this helps... I like using the electronic scale. Took all the guess work out of it. Some envelopes weight in at 1.05 ounces and this need that "extra ounce" stamp. > Thanks > Nate Mack > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I agree. I'd want to know if it was me. On the rare occasion that I do send out a bunch of envelopes, I try to eyeball them and stick an extra stampon the thicker ones. But then I pat myself on the back for being so thrifty and clever with the borderline envelopes. I don't ever recall getting anypostage due stuff and I always thought they got returned to you for insufficient postage (although I may have omitted postage entirely on those - oops). I'd hate to think people were paying my postage. > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 12:02 PM > To: jd3681@yahoo.com;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > !-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > JD: > It would be appropriate if you privately notified whoever is sending them. If it is me, I'd want to know for sure. > Mike > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Bare Hills, MD > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > -----Original Message----- > From: John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: OBC ramblings > > Sent: Sat, Apr 23, 2016 9:05 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] postage due > hello all. I have had a couple of these notices from my postal lady recenly that flats have inadiquate post. she pays it for my and then I put it inmy box. usually a dime or nickel. this week I had one for a buck forty five. my new postal dude didn't pay for it and I have to go to post office. soI will do that on monday. this got me to thinking if I had any like this. that is the reason for writing this is to find out if I have been sending out any flats or parcels with not enough postage on them. I guess I take forgranted that I am good with this because no one has said anything but I got to thinking that maybe you guys are like me and just pay it and not worry. but now I really would like to know...so if anyone has received somethingfrom me like this please let me know so I can make sure it doesn't happen moving > thanks and have a good saturday > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 13:13:40 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea From: Jake Brewer I celebrated my birthday one week early (I turn 25 next Friday) at the Charlotte show this weekend with some birthday money, and a little extra from myself I had one goal: finish my '59 Topps set. I also met Kurt Tourdot for the very first time since he recently moved to NC- after I've heard so many great stories about him on this forum! Him & a guy named Drew who was helping tend Kurt's table helped me search all the boxes for some '59s. Between Kurt's table, and Uncle Dick's I managed to get my set down to ELEVEN cards remaining! So here's the plea part: I've got some money left over still, and I want tocomplete my set! I'm looking for mostly g/vg on these- and I'd like to seescans if I like the price since they are mostly stars. So without further ado, here's my list of remaining needs! 90 Skowron 163 Koufax 202 Maris 245 Garver 350 Banks 514 Gibson RC 524 Osborne 533 Johnson 546 Schroll 561 Aaron All-Star 563 Mays All-Star I hope to make some deals here! -Jake Brewer ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:17:59 -0400 To: thepointguard@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Scratch 524 Osborne. Save your money for the Gibson. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2016 1:14 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea I celebrated my birthday one week early (I turn 25 next Friday) at the Charlotte show this weekend with some birthday money, and a little extra from myself I had one goal: finish my '59 Topps set. I also met Kurt Tourdot for the very first time since he recently moved to NC- after I've heard so many great stories about him on this forum! Him & a guy named Drew who was helping tend Kurt's table helped me search all the boxes for some '59s. Between Kurt's table, and Uncle Dick's I managed to get my set down to ELEVEN cards remaining! So here's the plea part: I've got some money left over still, and I want tocomplete my set! I'm looking for mostly g/vg on these- and I'd like to seescans if I like the price since they are mostly stars. So without further ado, here's my list of remaining needs! 90 Skowron 163 Koufax 202 Maris 245 Garver 350 Banks 514 Gibson RC 524 Osborne 533 Johnson 546 Schroll 561 Aaron All-Star 563 Mays All-Star I hope to make some deals here! -Jake Brewer ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:19:15 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea From: Jake Brewer Thanks Mike, much appreciated! -Jake Brewer > On Apr 24, 2016, at 2:17 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: > Jake, > Scratch 524 Osborne. Save your money for the Gibson. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: obc-ramblings > Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2016 1:14 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea > I celebrated my birthday one week early (I turn 25 next Friday) at the Charlotte show this weekend with some birthday money, and a little extra frommyself > I had one goal: finish my '59 Topps set. > I also met Kurt Tourdot for the very first time since he recently moved to NC- after I've heard so many great stories about him on this forum! > Him & a guy named Drew who was helping tend Kurt's table helped me searchall the boxes for some '59s. > Between Kurt's table, and Uncle Dick's I managed to get my set down to ELEVEN cards remaining! > So here's the plea part: I've got some money left over still, and I want to complete my set! I'm looking for mostly g/vg on these- and I'd like to see scans if I like the price since they are mostly stars. So without further ado, here's my list of remaining needs! > 90 Skowron > 163 Koufax > 202 Maris > 245 Garver > 350 Banks > 514 Gibson RC > 524 Osborne > 533 Johnson > 546 Schroll > 561 Aaron All-Star > 563 Mays All-Star > I hope to make some deals here! > -Jake Brewer ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 18:39:37 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" , Subject: major Gremlin alert - help! From: Geordie Calvert Good afternoon, everyone. I hope you are having a fantastic Sunday. Believe it or not, I'm finally getting around to putting some cards away from last year's National in Chicago. Everything was going fine until I got to my supposedly completed 1970 and 1972 baseball sets. I searched high and low, and so did many of the other Chicago attendees, for the last cards I needed for both sets. I thought they were done, but that turns out to be far from the truth. Normally Gremlins are responsible for a missing card, maybe two, maybe even three in extreme cases. However, I'm missing 8 cards from 1970 and 15 from 1972. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. I can't fathom the possibility that I somehow crossed 23 cards from two lists in error, especially cards with names like Ryan, Williams, Rose and Mays. The only thing I can think of is that I stuck those cards in a box somewhere, and in between moving 5 years ago and now that box has disappeared. I dunno - I've searched high and low - they're not to be found. So before I go to Sportlots or eBay, I thought I'd reach out to you guys and see if you've got some of these. I will return fire if at all possible, or am totally willing to D_S them. 1970 wantlist: 197 (Ryan saves the Day) 211 (Ted Williams) 491 (Nettles) 580 (Rose) 598 600 (Mays) 665 720 (last card) 1972 wantlist: 145 196 213 305 327 345 356 397 439 440 442 (Munson IA) 444 465 516 615 Thanks in advance for your help. ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 13:46:48 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: major Gremlin alert - help! From: Nate Mack You can cross off 1972: 145, 196, 213, 345, 356, 444, 516, 615 Nate Mack Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:39:52 -0400 To: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Schumck [2 Attachments] From: JDahms ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:47:06 -0500 To: Jake Brewer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea From: Jay Tysver I've got 245 Ned Garver for you. Jay Tysver On Apr 24, 2016, at 1:19 PM, "Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Thanks Mike, much appreciated! > -Jake Brewer > On Apr 24, 2016, at 2:17 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: >> Jake, >> Scratch 524 Osborne. Save your money for the Gibson. >> Mike Rich >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: obc-ramblings >> Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2016 1:14 pm >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea >> I celebrated my birthday one week early (I turn 25 next Friday) at the Charlotte show this weekend with some birthday money, and a little extra from myself :) >> I had one goal: finish my '59 Topps set. >> I also met Kurt Tourdot for the very first time since he recently moved to NC- after I've heard so many great stories about him on this forum! >> Him & a guy named Drew who was helping tend Kurt's table helped me search all the boxes for some '59s. >> Between Kurt's table, and Uncle Dick's I managed to get my set down to ELEVEN cards remaining! >> So here's the plea part: I've got some money left over still, and I wantto complete my set! I'm looking for mostly g/vg on these- and I'd like to see scans if I like the price since they are mostly stars. So without further ado, here's my list of remaining needs! >> 90 Skowron >> 163 Koufax >> 202 Maris >> 245 Garver >> 350 Banks >> 514 Gibson RC >> 524 Osborne >> 533 Johnson >> 546 Schroll >> 561 Aaron All-Star >> 563 Mays All-Star >> I hope to make some deals here! >> -Jake Brewer ================= Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 17:49:36 -0400 To: JDahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Schumck From: "Thomas W. Billing" This SELLER (singular) turns down offers and then jacks up the prices on the site, knowing that someone wants them. Yes, I am aware as COMC says, that I could buy them without making offers and that would get the price listed. I usually find that some sellers like Deans Cards will not accept offers so it is buy it or forget it. Others like vintage girl will always counter your offer, but never raise the price. This guy just rejects the offer and that leads to reloading the same cards into ones cart and trying it again. That is when you see the higher prices. This happens all the time andother OBCers have mentioned this as an ethics problem, which it is. COMC gets a lot of money with this guy=E2=99s cards so they are not about to tell him to be ethical. One OBCer referred to this practice as =E2=9Cbasil and switch=E2=9D and he is mostly correct. Tom Billing > On Apr 24, 2016, at 5:39 PM, JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Tom. I have never used COMC before so please excuse my question if it isa stupid one. Are these sellers changing there prices after you make an offer or after you agree to there prices and put them in your cart? > JD > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 4/24/2016 4:38 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Schumck [2 Attachments] > More COMC ethics issue. I am thinking of filing a complaint with the Washington state AG=E2=99s office. > Here is a screen shot from an offer that was rejected. This was 4:31. > > Here is a screen shot from 4:34 after I put them back in my card. Noticethat he even added 4 cents to Susce. > > Please tell me Mac or Chris won this. I was going to bid on it and got busylost track of time. View item: 1964 Topps Venezuelan Brooks Robinson Baltimore Orioles #230 Baseball Card End Time: Apr 24, 2016, 2:14:02 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:01:46 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Satellite Internet From: Bob Donaldson Does anyone access the Internet via Satellite? That seems to be the only option open for my daughter. She will be having a baby in the late summer and would need Internet to possibly work from home. Would love to hear peoples experiences. Bob Donaldson ================= Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:46:38 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea From: KEVINM38@aol.com Jake, I have 546 heading Your Way Happy Trading Kevin Martens ================= Date: 25 Apr 2016 12:38:54 -0700 To: Subject: Bucket List trip planning From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:44:32 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Bucket List trip planning From: JAY TYSVER I might be able to swing the Aug. 2 Atlanta game. It doesn't look like the National this year for me. Jay Tysver To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:38:54 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Bucket List trip planning I am continuing to try to plan the trip. Currently it has me leaving Detroit for Chicago on June 7 for a White Sox game, then heading west, getting to Seattle around June 29. Down the coast, and if all works out, the All Star Game in San Diego. Leaving SoCal July 16 and heading through the southwest. Arlington, TX on July 25. Decision time to get from there to Tampa. Do I head to New Orleans or further north through Montgomery, AL. Leaningtowards New Orleans on July 26 & 27. Stay in Tampa July 28 & 29. Going to vist Guru on July 31 & August 1. He may join me to go to Atlanta on August 2. For those not going to the National (Steve R.?), hopefully they can join us for the Braves on August 2. If Guru joins me, we will make the 13 1/2 hour trip to Atlantic City arriving the nite of August 3. Guru will fly back after the National as I head through the Northeast. I could drive folks from Atlantic City to Washington DC, which would be the next stop, before heading back north to NY, back down to Philly, Pitt and Cinci, before heading If anyone is available to join me for a game or put me up for a nite (or 2), please let me know. Amazingly, at present I will only be going to a couple of minor league games, while going to 26 major league games in 23 ballparks (planning on the entire 4 game series of the Tigers v Royals June 16-19) in 70 days. Tentative nites and areas I am looking for a place and company are: June 7 White Sox and Chicago June 8 Brewers and Milwaukee June 9 & 10 staying with Nick P in Lakeville, MN. Going to the Twins on June St. Louis June 13-15? Cardinals game on the 14th? Kansas City June 16-18? Going to the games June 16 -19. Denver June 22 & 23. Rockies June 23. Seattle June 29 & 30. Mariners June 30. I plan on taking a few days to get to the Oakland, CA area. Anyone near Oakland, OR or Willits, CA (expected stops) who is willing to put me up for anite? I will be staying with friends in Fremont, CA and going to the A's on July 3 and the Giants on July 4 or 5. At some point I will head over to Randy Welk's between July 6-8. Date depends on if I need to make up a day or so due to weather. We will go to a Fresno Grizzlies game one of those 3 days. I will then go down to the LA, San Diego and Anaheim areas July 9 - July 16. I may be able to use a place to stay a nite or 2 in those areas, depending on if my relatives have moved or not (house up for sale). Las Vegas July 17 I have relatives there, but still hope to meet up with Lynn Miller and Rich Niessen, before going to the Grand Canyon on July 18. Anyone in Phoenix for a Diamondbacks game on July 19? Staying with Richard Labs in El Paso, TX July 20 & 21. Heading to Houston either July 23 or 24. Astros day game at 1:10 on July 24. July 25 for the Rangers. Anyone have Doug Smith's contact info? July 26 and 27 in New Orleans. Tampa Bay July 28 & 29. Miami July 30. Up to Guru's July 31 & August 1. Atlanta on August 2. Post-National plans to be finalized, other than Washington DC August 8. Mike Rich cell: 248-709-2235 ================= Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 23:18:16 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Gremlins theory/ramble From: familytoad@comcast.net credit Nick for sending the last non-gremlin to the 1971 black beauties, but I need another hero for card #648 Jon Matlack. I think I pulled this card from my fledgling set years ago to help someone who was much closerto complete. I also found that my Rod Carew card is that funny yellow OPC version instead of the standard Topps.
Dang Canadian cards infiltratingmy binders, I suspect I should check my other sets too.

I did get good news though, as I noticed that for my 1966 set I had a card sitting on my desk that hadn't made it into the binder, nor had it been crossed off myWL. That was in an envelope from John Stamper from last August, I think (hope) I thanked him already.
I am down one, but up one !

Now my theory for gremlins....I can see it happening for those who don't use binders. When you collate a set into a box, it seems easy to place a number out of sequence. In the binders it can happen too, but might be more easily noticed if there is no card in its hole.

So...what about me? I have found a bunch more gremlins , but they are "binder gremlins" not actually missing cards.  They just didn't get into the binder. A couple big stars may have been in my HOF box, or they may be slabbed.   These may have got crossed off on my Excel spreadsheet and my online WL, but I have to find them in my closet. A project for another day I guess....

I sent out a few envelopes today as I was working from home. I thought to myself that I could be much more of a productive OBC member if I didn't go to that stupid office every day!!

I also started putting my UV set together thatmy son and I are working on. TOPPS 2016 Series 1. Into a binder. The dupesare being numerically sorted too, and into a box.
That's where I came up with my gremlin theory. I think I screwed up the box a few times. Those dupes will be up for grabs soon. I subscribe to that UV server, I guess I should use it :-)

I bid on a few big lots in attempt to refuel my dupes box since I will be working from home most Mondays this summer. Good and bad news since the days are really nights too...

OBC Forever,
Brian



Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 17:05:32 -0700 Subject: 40 years ago today...........where were you? From: "Grant Rainsley" I know we don't generally send this type of stuff, but I think this one is an exception...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJe2Ew-rhx8 ================= Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 23:35:02 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Speaking of Gibson, I just received the Corsair card which leaves me with just the Gibson for my master 59 set. Anyone see any leads on one of these, please post it up for us on the fringe! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/24/2016 2:18:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Scratch 524 Osborne. Save your money for the Gibson. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Jake Brewer thepointguard@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Apr 24, 2016 1:14 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charlotte Show, Kurt Tourdot and '59 Plea I celebrated my birthday one week early (I turn 25 next Friday) at the Charlotte show this weekend with some birthday money, and a little extra from myself :) I had one goal: finish my '59 Topps set. I also met Kurt Tourdot for the very first time since he recently moved to NC- after I've heard so many great stories about him on this forum! Him & a guy named Drew who was helping tend Kurt's table helped me search all the boxes for some '59s. Between Kurt's table, and Uncle Dick's I managed to get my set down to ELEVEN cards remaining! So here's the plea part: I've got some money left over still, and I want to complete my set! I'm looking for mostly g/vg on these- and I'd like to see scans if I like the price since they are mostly stars. So without further ado, here's my list of remaining needs! 90 Skowron 163 Koufax 202 Maris 245 Garver 350 Banks 514 Gibson RC 524 Osborne 533 Johnson 546 Schroll 561 Aaron All-Star 563 Mays All-Star I hope to make some deals here! -Jake Brewer ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:09:39 -0400 Subject: 1961 7-11 set From: Shawn Smart Has anyone tried to collect these? I am reading that they are super rare. ================= Date: 26 Apr 2016 15:03:16 -0700 To: Subject: Postage From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 26 Apr 2016 20:10:30 -0700 To: Subject: Anyone collect TCMA? From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2016 23:24:37 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone collect TCMA? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com There are multiple numbers that come with both color ink, but I do not think all of the numbers come in 2 colors. Although the basic set comes in green ink, I do not know if the ones that come in black ink are any less common than the green ink. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2016 11:10 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone collect TCMA? I have a couple different varieties of the 1978 TCMA "The 1960's" card of Roger Maris - one with green print on the back, and one with black. My SCD catalog says they're printed in green. Anyone know enough about these to tell me what's up? ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:34:05 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Camel Day Giveaways... From: chris tripler As I continue to my equivalent of the Big Dig...the piles of cards for my OBC brethren grows...FCFS/address if you remember... 1958T #s 160, 171, 1801959T #s 14, 129, 154, 211 1960T #s 247, 266, 302, 418 1962T #s 44, 107, 108, 124, 1261963T #s 8 (AL Victory LDRS), 79 (1st series CL)1964T #s 45, 72, 75, 124, 148 1969T Deckle #26 Richie Allen My weekly way of saying thanks to a great group of collectors! ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 06:41:03 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 1961 7-11 set From: Andy I once tried to do this set and gathered 5 or 6 of them. They're great looking cards. However, they're tough...super tough, and getting the Mays will be very expensive. Occasionally you can get a cheap ($20-$25) beater on eBay, or in a bargain box at a show. Good luck on the set. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:17:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Camel Day Giveaways...last minute addtion, '79 OPCs From: chris tripler Meant to add these into the mix... 1979 OPC w/ those beautiful wire cut edges...#s 1, 61, 62, 67, 86, 87, 90, 91, 97, 98, 164, 169, 187 (x2), 211, 214 (x2), 216, 244 (x3), 308 (x2), 363 (x20 TripOBC '15 ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 09:46:07 -0400 To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone collect TCMA? From: Matthew Glidden TCMA "reprinted" (repackaged?) some of their 70-80s into hobby style boxes for Toys R Us in the late 80s and some of those second printings are known to use different back ink. It's possible this explains the Maris, though they might've also been different to start with. On Tuesday, April 26, 2016, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > There are multiple numbers that come with both color ink, but I do not > think all of the numbers come in 2 colors. Although the basic set comes in > green ink, I do not know if the ones that come in black ink are any less > common than the green ink. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: uthminsta@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > To: OBC-Ramblings > > Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2016 11:10 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone collect TCMA? > I have a couple different varieties of the 1978 TCMA "The 1960's" card of > Roger Maris - one with green print on the back, and one with black. My SCD > catalog says they're printed in green. Anyone know enough about these to > tell me what's up? > Aaron ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 15:03:30 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Fwd: Kirk Gibson's batting helmet From: Matthew Glidden Good story for OBCers as well. :-) ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Jerry buctracker@gmail.com [RetroList] Date: Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:09 AM Subject: [RetroList] Kirk Gibson's batting helmet To: I recently had reason to look up an odd occurrence, and I wanted to pass it along both for your entertainment and in case it's worth adding a comment to the play-by-play. I don't know about the rest of his career, but when Kirk Gibson was briefly with the Pirates in early 1992, he often ran out from under his batting helmet. In the sixth inning of the April 25 game at Wrigley ( http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1992/B04250CHN1992.htm), Gibson left first on a hit-and-run. His helmet came off, and Jay Bell's sure single hit it and caromed right to Ryne Sandberg, who was able to catch Gibson in a rundown. A description and a couple of amusing clubhouse quotes are in the "Heads Up" section at the end of this article: https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=r9hRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=V24DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6760%2C8746315 -Jerry Wolper ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:44:56 -0400 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: Kirk Gibson's batting helmet From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Score it... "7 1/4 to 4 to 5 to 6 for the out" =81=89 Classic quote On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Good story for OBCers as well. :-) > Spike > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Jerry buctracker@gmail.com [RetroList] > Date: Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:09 AM > Subject: [RetroList] Kirk Gibson's batting helmet > To: > I recently had reason to look up an odd occurrence, and I wanted to pass > it along both for your entertainment and in case it's worth adding a > comment to the play-by-play. > I don't know about the rest of his career, but when Kirk Gibson was > briefly with the Pirates in early 1992, he often ran out from under his > batting helmet. In the sixth inning of the April 25 game at Wrigley ( > http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1992/B04250CHN1992.htm), Gibson left > first on a hit-and-run. His helmet came off, and Jay Bell's sure single hit > it and caromed right to Ryne Sandberg, who was able to catch Gibson in a > rundown. A description and a couple of amusing clubhouse quotes are in the > "Heads Up" section at the end of this article: > https://news.google.com/newspapers?idr9hRAAAAIBAJ&sjidV24DAAAAIBAJ&pg6760%2C8746315 > -Jerry Wolper Sam Taylor ================= Date: 27 Apr 2016 14:33:13 -0700 To: Subject: Low grade 1970s HOFer Waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:59:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Shrinking collections From: Andy There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been consideringshrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cards Iwould include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around my house...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to look at them in the next 15? I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:21:27 -0600 To: Andy , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:46:32 -0700 To: illini_grad_90 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Geordie Calvert I would keep all of my vintage pre-war, Bowman and Topps Dodgers, and also include all Topps Dodgers sets up to the current year, then would most likely keep 1957 Topps, 1953 Color, 1966 Topps (birth year) and 1978 Topps, which was the first year I bought packs and collected. > On Apr 27, 2016, at 5:21 PM, illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Andy -- > I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it.I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulation going on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974Topps, which is the one I first started buying. > I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. > It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it. Give it a try, you can always build back up!! > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections > There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cardsI would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. > Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around myhouse...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to lookat them in the next 15? > I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd beinterested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:59:12 -0400 To: Andy Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Doug DeJong Ironically, when I got back into collecting as an adult I decided to keep just 1,000 cards. I figured I would get 1,000 stars and HOFers and then constantly upgrade. I had been collecting beer cans in high school and that collection took over my parents basement so this concept fit the apartment life. I got to 1,000 but still had the 68 -71 Topps cards I had gotten as a kid. When I found OBC I figured if I completed the 1968 Topps set I would be happy, but something took over once I found this group. I still have my "Top 1,000' segregated from the rest of the binders, like many keep they HOFers separate. It unlikely is the source of many of the gremlins and reverse gremlins I have had over the years! On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving > quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been > considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On > Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or > "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried > to list the cards I would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer > was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 > though? I'm not sure. > Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around my > house...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I > haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to > look at them in the next 15? > I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd be > interested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:24:52 -0400 To: illini_grad_90 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Andy Huntoon Another option is to send all your cards to me to hold on to except for the"smaller" collection you want to keep. You know, just to sort of feel it out for a while and see if you like the smaller collection thing. =9C Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:21 PM, illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Andy -- > I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it.I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulation going on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974Topps, which is the one I first started buying. > I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. > It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it. Give it a try, you can always build back up!! > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections > There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cardsI would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. > Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around myhouse...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to lookat them in the next 15? > I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd beinterested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:52:22 -0400 To: cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com, illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Finally! A voice of reason. I have been reading this thread but had to stop to take heart medication (just joking), as this concept is completely foreign to me. Some guys have building type card collections. I likely have cards from over 1000 vintage sports sets. So a 1000 card limit would noteven cover a type card collection. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: illini_grad_90 Cc: Andy ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections Another option is to send all your cards to me to hold on to except for the"smaller" collection you want to keep. You know, just to sort of feel it out for a while and see if you like the smaller collection thing. =9C Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:21 PM, illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Andy -- I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it. I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulationgoing on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974 Topps, which is the one I first started buying. I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it. Give it a try, you can always build back up!! Take Care, Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been consideringshrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cards Iwould include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around my house...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to look at them in the next 15? I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:10:56 -0400 To: Andy Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Jimi Thayer Hi Andy, I too have considered this in the past, and I might do it as well. Funny how I can do a 180 in just a few weeks since trying to propose some ideas for the guys wanting to grow massive collections. Although, I really do want a "museum-like" collection with every set known to man from all sports, it's not realistic for me at this time. In fact, a lot has happened in the last two weeks that has really pushed mythinking this way: 1) I really don't have the time or money to collect a massive collection right now. And really, downsizing will hopefully give me a better chance of not being tempted to add more stuff to my site! Lol 2) Being a card dealer AND a collector.....is harder than you think! LOL 3) I had a very strong conversation with the President/Owner of SGC about me relocating to Boca Raton, FL and working for their company. I'm likely not going to pursue it at this time, but it really got me thinking about a lot of things. 4) I also have another entrepreneurial opportunity in my home town that I'mconsidering doing in addition to being a card dealer. BUT....I need cash,so I may NEED to downsize. For what it's worth, several years ago, I laid out what I thought would be considered a "Top 25" collection from the cards I had on a table. I wasn'tvery impressed with what I had, so I canned that idea. LOL I can tell you though, it'd be much easier to maintain, but participating in OBC RAOKs will be tough. I'm sure GENO can relate! (Hi, GENO!) Just my two cents! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:59 PM, Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cardsI would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. > Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around myhouse...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to lookat them in the next 15? > I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd beinterested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:11:00 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Andy Thanks to everyone who's added their thoughts to my ramble. Here's the upside if I do a dramatic shrinkage a la Geno -- I'll have a lot of cards to redistribute! I need to take a couple days to think through my collecting goals. A bunch of OBCers have already weighed in; I'm interested in more opinions on whether "more is more" or "less is more". Sent from my iPad > On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:52 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: > Finally! A voice of reason. I have been reading this thread but had tostop to take heart medication (just joking), as this concept is completelyforeign to me. Some guys have building type card collections. I likely have cards from over 1000 vintage sports sets. So a 1000 card limit would not even cover a type card collection. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: illini_grad_90 > Cc: Andy ; OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 9:24 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections > Another option is to send all your cards to me to hold on to except for the "smaller" collection you want to keep. You know, just to sort of feel itout for a while and see if you like the smaller collection thing. =9C > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:21 PM, illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Andy -- > I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it.I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulation going on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974Topps, which is the one I first started buying. > I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. > It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it. Give it a try, you can always build back up!! > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections > There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cardsI would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. > Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around myhouse...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to lookat them in the next 15? > I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd beinterested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:17:39 -0500 To: Andy Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: OBC Nick P Very interesting concept. I've never even stopped to think about it like that. Here I am trying to find a way to add seven thousand more cards to my want lists. My current quest is for 50K and not 2k. I wouldn't even know where to start if I were going to thin out. Nick Pelletier > On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Thanks to everyone who's added their thoughts to my ramble. Here's the upside if I do a dramatic shrinkage a la Geno -- I'll have a lot of cards to redistribute! I need to take a couple days to think through my collecting goals. A bunch of OBCers have already weighed in; I'm interested in more opinions on whether "more is more" or "less is more". > Andy > Sent from my iPad >> On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:52 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: >> Finally! A voice of reason. I have been reading this thread but had to stop to take heart medication (just joking), as this concept is completely foreign to me. Some guys have building type card collections. I likely have cards from over 1000 vintage sports sets. So a 1000 card limit would not even cover a type card collection. >> Mike Rich >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> To: illini_grad_90 >> Cc: Andy ; OBC-Ramblings >> Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 9:24 pm >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections >> Another option is to send all your cards to me to hold on to except for the "smaller" collection you want to keep. You know, just to sort of feel it out for a while and see if you like the smaller collection thing. =9C >> Andy Huntoon >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:21 PM, illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Andy -- >> I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it. I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulation going on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974 Topps, which is the one I first started buying. >> I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. >> It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it.Give it a try, you can always build back up!! >> Take Care, >> Geno >> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Andy typecard@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections >> There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net 54 there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cards I would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not sure. >> Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around my house...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to look at them in the next 15? >> I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. >> Andy >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:24:23 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I guess the thing that will keep me out of the OBC Hall of Fame, is that I'm a "compiler". Instead of narrowing things down, I have expanded well into the 50s, and am building some "side" sets (My Mets collection, Red Sox, Jets, Knicks, etc.). I do find that I look at the cards I have in binders much more than anything in boxes. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/27/2016 9:52:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Finally! A voice of reason. I have been reading this thread but had to stop to take heart medication (just joking), as this concept is completely foreign to me. Some guys have building type card collections. I likely have cards from over 1000 vintage sports sets. So a 1000 card limit would not even cover a type card collection. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: illini_grad_90 Cc: Andy ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections Another option is to send all your cards to me to hold on to except for the "smaller" collection you want to keep. You know, just to sort of feel it out for a while and see if you like the smaller collection thing. =9C Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:21 PM, illini_grad_90 _illini_grad_90@yahoo.com_ (mailto:illini_grad_90@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Andy -- I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it. I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulation going on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974 Topps, which is the one I first started buying. I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it. Give it a try, you can always build back up!! Take Care, Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Andy _typecard@aol.com_ (mailto:typecard@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. On Net there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cards I would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around my house...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to look at them in the next 15? I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:38:35 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:05:52 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en From: ChicoD1@aol.com To: 4OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 4/27/2016 11:04:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections LOL the only stress I get at a card show is realizing I pulled a million cards out of Kurt's bin and wonder how much I just set myself back and do I have enough money for the rest of the show! Gotta tell you, coming home with a full box of cards I didn't have previously is quite a high for me. And then you look at some of the handshakes, and just shake your head. If I tried to pare down to just the Dodgers, I'd get maybe a 2 or 3 cards a year, as I'm getting into some large territory (Need a few Jackie's)... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/27/2016 10:38:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I think it would be feasible to slim down to a single monster box. More specifically, 3200 cards. I've considered exactly that before. It would certainly take a rigid set of parameters. Collect a player. Or a team. Or a single card number like 5. A single year. Players from your hometown. Barrier breakers. Horizontal cards. Cards depicting Louisville Slugger logos. All-stars. Rookie catchers. Players who served in the armed forces. Or Rollie Fingers. For obvious reasons. When the box is full, tighten the parameters. That can actually be pretty fun. Pull out all the newest cards to make room for more. Pull out that guy who spit on someone. Toss the guy who went to play for the enemy. You'd have to completely forget the idea of "killing" sets - but you would certainly find a new "species" of gratification with each layer you peel back, and each new find that hits the smaller target. Imagine how much less stressful a card show would be! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:17 PM, OBC Nick P _nachobcards@yahoo.com_ (mailto:nachobcards@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Very interesting concept. I've never even stopped to think about it like Here I am trying to find a way to add seven thousand more cards to my want lists. My current quest is for 50K and not 2k. I wouldn't even know where to start if I were going to thin out. Nick Pelletier _Nachobcards@yahoo.com_ (mailto:Nachobcards@yahoo.com) On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:11 PM, Andy _typecard@aol.com_ (mailto:typecard@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Thanks to everyone who's added their thoughts to my ramble. Here's the upside if I do a dramatic shrinkage a la Geno -- I'll have a lot of cards to redistribute! I need to take a couple days to think through my collecting goals. A bunch of OBCers have already weighed in; I'm interested in more opinions on whether "more is more" or "less is more". Sent from my iPad On Apr 27, 2016, at 9:52 PM, _mikesportsfan@aol.com_ (mailto:mikesportsfan@aol.com) wrote: Finally! A voice of reason. I have been reading this thread but had to stop to take heart medication (just joking), as this concept is completely foreign to me. Some guys have building type card collections. I likely have cards from over 1000 vintage sports sets. So a 1000 card limit would not even cover a type card collection. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Andy Huntoon _cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com_ (mailto:cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > To: illini_grad_90 <_illini_grad_90@yahoo.com_ (mailto:illini_grad_90@yahoo.com) > Cc: Andy <_typecard@aol.com_ (mailto:typecard@aol.com) >; OBC-Ramblings <_OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Wed, Apr 27, 2016 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections Another option is to send all your cards to me to hold on to except for the "smaller" collection you want to keep. You know, just to sort of feel it out for a while and see if you like the smaller collection thing. =9C Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:21 PM, illini_grad_90 _illini_grad_90@yahoo.com_ (mailto:illini_grad_90@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Andy -- I've done that with my collection, or at least I am in the process of it. I am basically collecting about 600 or so cards, with a bit of accumulation going on with that. Plus there are a few sets I will keep, like my 1974 Topps, which is the one I first started buying. I have found that I enjoy fewer cards more, because I become familiar with them and pull them out pretty often. I have slowly been trading off my Topps sets, basically using them as currency for my wants. It was a tough choice to make, but once I did, I was very happy with it. Give it a try, you can always build back up!! Take Care, Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Andy _typecard@aol.com_ (mailto:typecard@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > Date: 04/27/2016 17:59 (GMT-07:00) To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections There's been significant discussion within OBC about achieving quantity-based collection levels. However, The past couple months I've been considering shrinking my collection to those sets/singles I most enjoy. OnNet there's periodic discussion of the "25-card", "100-card", or "1,000-card" collection. Tonight I sat down with a pad of paper and tried to list the cards I would include in a 1,000 card collection --- the answer was at this time, 1,000 would be too limiting to me. Maybe 2,000 or 2,500 though? I'm not Like many OBCers, I have many complete sets boxed up and stored around my house...some of which I haven't opened and looked at since the 90s. If I haven't looked at them in 15+ years, what's the likelihood I'm going to look at them in the next 15? I'm not sure what I'm going to do, this is just thinking out loud. I'd be interested on anyone's thoughts on shrinking a collection. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:12:07 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Ken M I'm going to look at this at a slightly different angle. I have no intention of downsizing my collection - in fact I've added several thousand cards to my list in the past couple years (mostly UV though). BUT... what if I was forced to downsize? What would be the last thousand cards you would have to rip out of my cold, dead hands? Sixties and seventies sets? Been there, done that - twice over in a lot of cases. Nope, gone. Football, basketball and hockey sets? See ya. UV stuff? Hah! Please. That leaves the 50's and older baseball stuff. I only have the one token prewar set (T205), but it's kinda grown on me, so I'll keep that. Then there's three other sets I'm proud of and/or have extra sentimental value to me: 1952 Topps, 1948-49 Leaf and 1949 Bowman... and there's my Hank Aaron RC which will probably be buried with me. The rest of the stuff (for the most part) has been put on my list to keep my collective juices flowing (and to offer you guys some easier targets). It works out close to 1000 cards (a couple hundred over if you include variations though).  I might not get to pull out a binder and flip through a set as much as I'd like (or at all in a lot of cases), but that's not where I'm at right now. The plan is to really be able to enjoy them once I'm retired - which isn't going to happen for at least another 15 years or so. Then I might consider selling off a bunch of stuff... although I've already sold most of the premium grade stuff and kept the typical OBC material in my collection. Heck, I've been collecting cards for nearly 40 years - it'll be difficult to try to UNcollect them. Probably not going to happen... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 03:17:59 +0000 (UTC) To: Ken Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: tvalacak@comcast.net My first reaction is - NO WAY. Not for me. I absolutely love the cardboard.A few weeks ago, I was starting up my transfer of cards from box to binderfor my Blackhawks collection. I was in need of some sheets. I decided thatI would put my 77 set in a box and use the sheets from that set to help the new binder. After taking out cards from the first six pages, I said to myself - What am I doing? I don't want to put these guys in a box. I'm not pressed for space - yet. So, I halted that - went to a card shop a few days later and bought a box sheets. I can't even move a set from binder to box, much less downsize my entire collection. And for me, this is my vice. I loveit. I love filling the holes in the binder. I love the search. Love the hobby. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 10:12:07 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections I'm going to look at this at a slightly different angle. I have no intention of downsizing my collection - in fact I've added several thousand cards to my list in the past couple years (mostly UV though). BUT... what if I wasforced to downsize? What would be the last thousand cards you would have to rip out of my cold, dead hands? Sixties and seventies sets? Been there, done that - twice over in a lot of cases. Nope, gone. Football, basketball and hockey sets? See ya. UV stuff? Hah! Please. That leaves the 50's and older baseball stuff. I only have the one token prewar set (T205), but it's kinda grown on me, so I'll keep that. Then there's three other sets I'm proudof and/or have extra sentimental value to me: 1952 Topps, 1948-49 Leaf and1949 Bowman... and there's my Hank Aaron RC which will probably be buried with me. The rest of the stuff (for the most part) has been put on my list to k eep my collective juices flowing (and to offer you guys some easier targets). It works out close to 1000 cards (a couple hundred over if you include variations though). I might not get to pull out a binder and flip through a set as much as I'd like (or at all in a lot of cases), but that's not where I'm at right now. The plan is to really be able to enjoy them once I'm retired - which isn't going to happen for at least another 15 years or so. Then I might consider selling off a bunch of stuff... although I've already sold most of the premium grade stuff and kept the typical OBC material in my collection. Heck, I've been collecting cards for nearly 40 years - it'll be difficult to try to UNcollect them. Probably not going to happen... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 03:41:38 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: shrinking collections From: mark zentkovich very nice thread...with wide and varied comments..just as it should be, each of our collections are as different as we are. some of this downsizing may be for space issues or budget issues, or combination of both.. I have a lot more space since we have been empty nesters for a couple of years..but not a big card budget. I have been thinking of limiting future vintage collecting to one decade only...the 70s from a budget perspective...and although I know the stars in the 60s, I did not watch most of the commons play so don't really feel much connection to the common players of the 60s. I completed the grays last year, and this year have about half of 69 set thanks to you guys...working on 61 highs... but new sets starting for next couple of years probably will be 70s other sports- started 3 mid 70s basketball sets recently. that is the other cool thing about setting/revising goals at beginning of year that a lot of us have been doing, it makes you think of a direction andgo that way...or switch totally, which can be refreshing as well. I look forward to more ramblings from others on this subject.. mark zentkovich ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:13:44 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Dumb Question From: Andy Huntoon Hey all, Does anyone know if you can wash the older white OBC hats without ruining them? I'd like to clean mine up a bit but don't know if it's safe to toss it in the washer. Ok, dumb question over. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:28:53 -0700 To: "Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shrinking collections From: Rick I too have no intention of shrinking my collection. I will continue to expand it hopefully someday to every set made. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 27, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'm going to look at this at a slightly different angle. I have no intention of downsizing my collection - in fact I've added several thousand cardsto my list in the past couple years (mostly UV though). BUT... what if I was forced to downsize? What would be the last thousand cards you would haveto rip out of my col ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:47:41 -0400 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: ShoelessWes I'm not certain you're supposed to do that. Or admit to it. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:13 AM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey all, > Does anyone know if you can wash the older white OBC hats without ruiningthem? I'd like to clean mine up a bit but don't know if it's safe to toss it in the washer. > Ok, dumb question over. > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:51:29 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: Ken M I don't think washing the hats will hurt them. I don't know if it will help them either. I think I tried washing mine once... but if you looked at it, you'd never know. I kinda like my hat in tipton condition anyway ;-) Ken M - you could try using a pre-treater or spot remover on them beforehand... or that oxi-wash stuff. Results may vary. Good luck! Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 12:13 AMTo: OBC Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:29:01 -0400 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: Andy Huntoon Funny you mention oxi-clean. I used to work for the company that made that when it was still family owned years ago in Colorado. I was friends with Billy Mays and the current spokesman Anthony Sullivan. The founder and inventor of all their cleaning products, Max Appel, was a workhorse man. He was close to 70 and had more energy every day than my kids have. Good times. Thanks for reminding me of them. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:51 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't think washing the hats will hurt them. I don't know if it will help them either. I think I tried washing mine once... but if you looked at it, you'd never know. I kinda like my hat in tipton condition anyway ;-) > Ken M - you could try using a pre-treater or spot remover on them beforehand... or that oxi-wash stuff. Results may vary. Good luck! > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 12:13 AM > To: OBC Ramblings; > Cc: > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question > Hey all,Does anyone know if you can wash the older white OBC hats withoutruining them? I'd like to clean mine up a bit but don't know if it's safeto toss it in the washer. Ok, dumb question over. Andy Huntoon Sent from my ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:36:50 -0400 To: ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: Andy Huntoon Oh I'm certain Wes. And I'll admit it. Viva la clean hats!!! =9C=9C=9C Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:47 AM, ShoelessWes wrote: > I'm not certain you're supposed to do that. Or admit to it. > Wes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:13 AM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hey all, >> Does anyone know if you can wash the older white OBC hats without ruining them? I'd like to clean mine up a bit but don't know if it's safe to tossit in the washer. >> Ok, dumb question over. >> Andy Huntoon >> Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:20:33 -0400 To: Andy Huntoon , ShoelessWes Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: JDahms ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:44:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 52 Topps Mantle From: jdelott@aol.com Has anyone seen a 52 Mantle Topps graded 8 or higher? Should there be a pool to see who comes closest to guessing the final sales price for http://www.ebay.com/itm/371606153748?rmvSB=true? Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:04:24 -0400 To: jdelott@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Topps Mantle From: Andy Huntoon I believe there was a PSA 10 52 Mantle auctioned off a few years ago. Therehave also been several PSA 8's in major auctions over the last year. I think they went for something in the $250K range. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 28, 2016, at 11:44 AM, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Has anyone seen a 52 Mantle Topps graded 8 or higher? Should there be a pool to see who comes closest to guessing the final sales price for http://www.ebay.com/itm/371606153748?rmvSBtrue? > Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 10:06:34 -0700 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Bucket List trip planning From: Rick I got four tickets lined up for you June 30 mariners game still don't know if I'll be around let you know later. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Apr 25, 2016, at 12:38 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I am continuing to try to plan the trip. Currently it has me leaving Detroit for Chicago on June 7 for a White Sox game, then heading west, gettingto Seattle around June 29. Down the coast, and if all works out, the All Star Game in San Diego. Leaving SoCal July 16 and heading through the southwest. Arlington, TX on July 25. Decision time to get from there to Tampa. Do I head to New Orleans or further north through Montgomery, AL. Leaning towards New Orleans on July 26 & 27. Stay in Tampa July 28 & 29. Goingto vist Guru on July 31 & August 1. He may join me to go to Atlanta on August 2. For those not going to the National (Steve R.?), hopefully they can join us for the Braves on August 2. If Guru joins me, we will make the 13 1/2 hour trip to Atlantic City arriving the nite of August 3. Guru will fly back after the National as I head through the Northeast. I could drivefolks from Atlantic City to Washington DC, which would be the next stop, before heading back north to NY, back down to Philly, Pitt and Cinci, beforeheading > If anyone is available to join me for a game or put me up for a nite (or 2), please let me know. Amazingly, at present I will only be going to a couple of minor league games, while going to 26 major league games in 23 ballparks (planning on the entire 4 game series of the Tigers v Royals June 16-19) in 70 days. > Tentative nites and areas I am looking for a place and company are: > June 7 White Sox and Chicago > June 8 Brewers and Milwaukee > June 9 & 10 staying with Nick P in Lakeville, MN. Going to the Twins on June > St. Louis June 13-15? Cardinals game on the 14th? > Kansas City June 16-18? Going to the games June 16 -19. > Denver June 22 & 23. Rockies June 23. > Seattle June 29 & 30. Mariners June 30. > I plan on taking a few days to get to the Oakland, CA area. Anyone near Oakland, OR or Willits, CA (expected stops) who is willing to put me up fora > I will be staying with friends in Fremont, CA and going to the A's on July 3 and the Giants on July 4 or 5. > At some point I will head over to Randy Welk's between July 6-8. Date depends on if I need to make up a day or so due to weather. We will go to a Fresno Grizzlies game one of those 3 days. > I will then go down to the LA, San Diego and Anaheim areas July 9 - July 16. I may be able to use a place to stay a nite or 2 in those areas, depending on if my relatives have moved or not (house up for sale). > Las Vegas July 17 I have relatives there, but still hope to meet up with Lynn Miller and Rich Niessen, before going to the Grand Canyon on July 18. > Anyone in Phoenix for a Diamondbacks game on July 19? > Staying with Richard Labs in El Paso, TX July 20 & 21. > Heading to Houston either July 23 or 24. Astros day game at 1:10 on July24. > July 25 for the Rangers. Anyone have Doug Smith's contact info? > July 26 and 27 in New Orleans. > Tampa Bay July 28 & 29. > Miami July 30. > Up to Guru's July 31 & August 1. > Atlanta on August 2. > Post-National plans to be finalized, other than Washington DC August 8. > Mike Rich > cell: 248-709-2235 ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:20:37 -0400 To: jdelott@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Topps Mantle From: Yahoo Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 28, 2016, at 11:44, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Has anyone seen a 52 Mantle Topps graded 8 or higher? Should there be a pool to see who comes closest to guessing the final sales price for http://www.ebay.com/itm/371606153748?rmvSBtrue? > Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:25:45 -0400 To: jd3681@yahoo.com, cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com, wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com As Ken Morganti mentioned OBC hats are resplendent in Tipton condition. That said, I have actually washed the hat (once or twice) in the washing machine. Actually I consider mine a yellow tint variation. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: JDahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Andy Huntoon ; ShoelessWes Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 9:21 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question I think Mike rich might have something to say about clean hats Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 4/28/2016 1:36 AM (GMT-05:00) To: ShoelessWes Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question Oh I'm certain Wes. And I'll admit it. Viva la clean hats!!! =9C=9C=9C Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:47 AM, ShoelessWes wrote: I'm not certain you're supposed to do that. Or admit to it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2016, at 12:13 AM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hey all, Does anyone know if you can wash the older white OBC hats without ruining them? I'd like to clean mine up a bit but don't know if it's safe to toss it in the washer. Ok, dumb question over. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 28 Apr 2016 11:54:57 -0700 To: Subject: OBC guesses at selling price for uncut 1967 Topps high number panel with all of the big names From: ricktopps@aol.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Advisory Committee Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:17:09 -0500 Subject: 2016 OBC T-SHIRTS From: Aaron Shirley Fellas, here's the first peek at the all-new 2016 OBC t-shirt! If you can'tsee it, it's forest green with the same logo as last year. Or you can email me directly at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com and I will send the image to you. Ordering and pricing details very soon. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:01:25 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I've done the dishwasher thing on the top rack with good results. Let it air dry, don't want it to shrink on you. If you can, stretch it out so it doesn't curl up after you take it out (if you have a hat form, use it). Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/28/2016 12:49:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I heard the dishwasher on the top rack works, but I don't know if I ever tried it. OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: April 27, 2016 at 9:15 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Dumb Question Hey all, Does anyone know if you can wash the older white OBC hats without ruining them? I'd like to clean mine up a bit but don't know if it's safe to toss it in the washer. Ok, dumb question over. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:07:00 -0500 To: jdelott@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Topps Mantle From: Rick's AOL I love the idea of OBCers having a little fun trying to guess final values of auctions. I will guess 160,000 on the mantle. I am going to throw out a second item for people to guess a selling price in a new posting. An uncut 1967 Topps high number uncut sheet. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 28, 2016, at 10:44 AM, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Has anyone seen a 52 Mantle Topps graded 8 or higher? Should there be a pool to see who comes closest to guessing the final sales price for http://www.ebay.com/itm/371606153748?rmvSBtrue? > Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:03:57 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 OBC T-SHIRTS From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Any chance of getting this in the blue that Larry got the hats in and having a pocket version? That came in very handy! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/28/2016 5:17:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Fellas, here's the first peek at the all-new 2016 OBC t-shirt! If you can't see it, it's forest green with the same logo as last year. Or you can email me directly at uthminsta AT hotmail DOT com and I will send the imageto you. Ordering and pricing details very soon. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:16:00 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Bucket List trip planning From: mikesportsfan@aol.com THANK YOU! That leaves at least 2 more tickets for other NW OBCers to claim and join me/us. I hope you are in town to go with me. Very generous to line this up. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: mikesportsfan Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2016 1:06 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Bucket List trip planning I got four tickets lined up for you June 30 mariners game still don't know if I'll be around let you know later. Rick Sent from my iPad On Apr 25, 2016, at 12:38 PM, mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I am continuing to try to plan the trip. Currently it has me leaving Detroit for Chicago on June 7 for a White Sox game, then heading west, getting to Seattle around June 29. Down the coast, and if all works out, the All Star Game in San Diego. Leaving SoCal July 16 and heading through the southwest. Arlington, TX on July 25. Decision time to get from there to Tampa. Do I head to New Orleans or further north through Montgomery, AL. Leaningtowards New Orleans on July 26 & 27. Stay in Tampa July 28 & 29. Going to vist Guru on July 31 & August 1. He may join me to go to Atlanta on August 2. For those not going to the National (Steve R.?), hopefully they can join us for the Braves on August 2. If Guru joins me, we will make the 13 1/2 hour trip to Atlantic City arriving the nite of August 3. Guru will fly back after the National as I head through the Northeast.&nb sp; I could drive folks from Atlantic City to Washington DC, which would be the next stop, before heading back north to NY, back down to Philly, Pitt and Cinci, before heading home. If anyone is available to join me for a game or put me up for a nite (or 2), please let me know. Amazingly, at present I will only be going to a couple of minor league games, while going to 26 major league games in 23 ballparks (planning on the entire 4 game series of the Tigers v Royals June 16-19) in 70 days. Tentative nites and areas I am looking for a place and company are: June 7 White Sox and Chicago June 8 Brewers and Milwaukee June 9 & 10 staying with Nick P in Lakeville, MN. Going to the Twins on June St. Louis June 13-15? Cardinals game on the 14th? Kansas City June 16-18? Going to the games June 16 -19. Denver June 22 & 23. Rockies June 23. Seattle June 29 & 30. Mariners June 30. I plan on taking a few days to get to the Oakland, CA area. Anyone near Oakland, OR or Willits, CA (expected stops) who is willing to put me up for anite? I will be staying with friends in Fremont, CA and going to the A's on July 3 and the Giants on July 4 or 5. At some point I will head over to Randy Welk's between July 6-8. Date depends on if I need to make up a day or so due to weather. We will go to a Fresno Grizzlies game one of those 3 days. I will then go down to the LA, San Diego and Anaheim areas July 9 - July 16. I may be able to use a place to stay a nite or 2 in those areas, depending on if my relatives have moved or not (house up for sale). Las Vegas July 17 I have relatives there, but stil l hope to meet up withLynn Miller and Rich Niessen, before going to the Grand Canyon on July 18. Anyone in Phoenix for a Diamondbacks game on July 19? Staying with Richard Labs in El Paso, TX July 20 & 21. Heading to Houston either July 23 or 24. Astros day game at 1:10 on July 24. July 25 for the Rangers. Anyone have Doug Smith's contact info? July 26 and 27 in New Orleans. Tampa Bay July 28 & 29. Miami July 30. Up to Guru's July 31 & August 1. Atlanta on August 2. Post-National plans to be finalized, other than Washington DC August 8. Mike Rich cell: 248-709-2235 ================= Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:30:33 -0400 To: "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cardboard Heaven [1 Attachment] From: Ken M ================= Date: 29 Apr 2016 09:36:28 -0700 To: Subject: Cincinnati Moeller show this weekend From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:40:09 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1967 Coke/Tab/Fresca Baseball Caps NY Yankees Complete Set Mickey Mantle From: Yahoo Look at this on eBay 1967 Coke/Tab/Fresca Baseball Caps NY Yankees Complete Set Mickey Mantle Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:03:36 -0400 To: Tom Housely Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cincinnati Moeller show this weekend From: "Thomas W. Billing" Unfortunately, I am busy all weekend with two gigs and judging a scholarship event so I am out. Please let me know when the next Moeller show is. Tom Billing > On Apr 29, 2016, at 12:36 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Guys, > Only Gersh has indicated he'll be attending the show so far. No one else?There are 140 tables of cards & memorabi - memarob - stuff:-), and it's a really good show, located at Moeller High School off of I-71, north of Cincinnati. > I'll be there on Saturday. Hopefully I'll see some OBC hats from the Ohio/Michigan/West Virginia/Kentucky members. If you decide to go, e-mail or text me at 937-269-7655. > HOFer Johnny Bench will be signing beginning at 10:30 tomorrow, if you are into the whole autograph thing. If not, there's plenty of vintage to see. > It's not Strongsville, but it's pretty close. > Tom ================= Date: 29 Apr 2016 14:19:24 -0700 To: Subject: 600 Stolen Base Club question From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:27:24 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 600 Stolen Base Club question From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Don't know about the 30's and 40's but in the '50's, Aparicio led the AL for several years, and I think Mays led the NL for 2 or 3. Best regards, In a message dated 04/29/2016 5:19:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Here is the 600 Stolen Base Club in two distinct groups, each spanning approximately a half-century: 1) Tom Brown, Max Carey, Eddie Collins, Ty Cobb, George Davis, Billy Hamilton, Arlie Latham and Honus Wagner played with overlapping careers between 1880 and 1930. 2) Lou Brock, Bert Campaneris, Vince Coleman, Rickey Henderson, Kenny Lofton, Joe Morgan, Otis Nixon, Juan Pierre, Tim Raines and Willie Wilson played with overlapping careers between 1961 and 2013. So... who were the stolen base leaders between 1930 and 1960? By the way, Jake Brewer (today's his BIRTHDAY!) collects these guys. Got a jersey or auto or something? Check his page out. _Abe's Collection_ (http://thepointguard.weebly.com/) (http://thepointguard.weebly.com/) _Abe's Collection _ (http://thepointguard.weebly.com/) _View on thepointguard.weebly.com _ (http://thepointguard.weebly.com/) Preview by Yahoo Thanks for lookin' Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 00:06:10 -0400 To: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 600 Stolen Base Club question From: Jake Brewer Thanks for the plug Aaron! I love SB guys- Maury Wills (even though he's not in the club) is one of my favorites! Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 29, 2016, at 5:27 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Don't know about the 30's and 40's but in the '50's, Aparicio led the AL for several years, and I think Mays led the NL for 2 or 3. > Best regards, > Chuck > In a message dated 04/29/2016 5:19:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Here is the 600 Stolen Base Club in two distinct groups, each spanning approximately a half-century: > 1) Tom Brown, Max Carey, Eddie Collins, Ty Cobb, George Davis, Billy Hamilton, Arlie Latham and Honus Wagner played with overlapping careers between1880 and 1930. > 2) Lou Brock, Bert Campaneris, Vince Coleman, Rickey Henderson, Kenny Lofton, Joe Morgan, Otis Nixon, Juan Pierre, Tim Raines and Willie Wilson played with overlapping careers between 1961 and 2013. > So... who were the stolen base leaders between 1930 and 1960? > By the way, Jake Brewer (today's his BIRTHDAY!) collects these guys. Got a jersey or auto or something? Check his page out. Abe's Collection > Abe's Collection > =E2=8B > View on thepointguard.weebly.com > Preview by Yahoo > Thanks for lookin' > Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Good deal on Nonsports: Sky Birds cards From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, Not sure if anyone is working on the Sky Birds set (okay I know one person is), but thought I would mention that a seller on COMC has about 30-40 thathe is selling for $1.62 each (and he'll accept about 10% off in addition). When I built my set, I had to go about $3 each (maybe bad timing on my part?) ... so this seems like a very good deal. Good luck,Patrick ================= Date: 30 Apr 2016 16:47:11 -0700 To: Subject: 70 Topps Poster Waiver Wire From: welfar03@yahoo.com ================= Date: 30 Apr 2016 17:39:47 -0700 To: Subject: Cincy show report From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 20:50:06 -0400 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cincy show report From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Did you get this guy's name in case he contacts one of us to initiate a swap? -----Original Message----- From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2016 8:39 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cincy show report Thus weekend was the big vintage show at Moeller High School in Cincinnati.The highlight was meeting Doug DeJong for the first time. OBC handshakes wee exchanged and we ended up at several OBC friendly dealer tables. I didn't do much damage to my lists (they are harder and harder to hit these days), but I did find a 1953 Spahn for 10 bucks at William Chapell's table. Made some inroads on the mid-70's Kellogg's sets too. Doug and I ended the show at a dealer with a huge 10 cent box. Doug had hitit earlier and raided most of the 1950's cards, but I pulled nearly 100 cards, most from 1960, to fatten up my dupes box. While there we met another collector who sounds like OBC material, and he lives in Dayton. He was looking for 1960 hits and I told him to pull whatever he wanted from my stack. Talked a little bit with him and Doug and I clued him in about OBC, and I gave one of the OBC business cards I printed up a while back. So maybe we'llget another application son, who knows. It was a stormy drive, and Cncy traffic on the highway was nuts, but any day I get to meet an OBCer and look through cardboard is a good day. Tom Housley ================= Date: 30 Apr 2016 18:02:03 -0700 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cincy show report From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 18:12:34 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 53 mother cookies From: Anthony Hello all I am in sonoma county and stopped by a consignment antique place and scoredsome nonsport grab packs which killed my 55 world or wheels set , halved the alive set and had two 51 tops blue back baseballs hiding. But he also had a bunch of 53 mothers in ex- avg condition. What are they going for on avg and if anyone wants some just send list and price interested in. Do not think any big stars. May also have acouple of 52's which I think are more expensive Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 20:22:14 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: FAKE 1952 Topps Mantle From: Aaron Shirley This drives me crazy. Look at this piece of crap. I mean the seller, not the Look at this on eBay 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 21:52:08 -0400 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FAKE 1952 Topps Mantle From: mikesportsfan@aol.com A rating of 4 and does not accept refunds. No picture of the back. An ungraded Mantle. How many red flags can there be??? -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2016 9:22 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] FAKE 1952 Topps Mantle This drives me crazy. Look at this piece of crap. I mean the seller, not the Look at this on eBay 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:28:07 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FAKE 1952 Topps Mantle From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en We all know this stuff makes me nuts. If you had what you perceived was a real Mantle, that baby would get graded if I were going to sell it. It would bring in at least 5-10x what a raw would. The guy KNOWS its fake. Totally misleading. Anyone write the guy to tell him we KNOW it's a reprint? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 4/30/2016 10:35:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: There is a picture of the back. It's obviously a distressed UV reprint - the back is originally clean and very white. It's listed as a reprint (and says it's listed as a reprint in the description), but that's apparently been overlooked by more than one bidder. The shady part is the use of the words "if it's real" in the description. Unfortunately, PT Barnum was right, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: _mikesportsfan@aol.com_ (mailto:mikesportsfan@aol.com) Date: Sat, Apr 30, 2016 9:52 PM To: _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) _;obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:;obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com) ; Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FAKE 1952 Topps Mantle A rating of 4 and does not accept refunds. No picture of the back. An ungraded Mantle. How many red flags can there be??? -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Shirley_ uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:%20uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] _>_ (mailto:_ (mailto: