================= To: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 08:46:44 -0400 Subject: Shriner's Wilmington Show this weekend (are you coming) From: "Bob Donaldson" The GBSCC show at the Shriner's in Wilmington is this week. I believe the following are going: Richard Dingman Chris Tripler Robert Pigeon (ex OBCer) Joel Freedman Matthew Glidden Ken Morganti Bob Donaldson Anyone else? ================= Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:10:29 -0400 To: chris tripler , richard dingman , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Nov. 4th Lunch Meetup before Shriner's Show. From: Joel Freedman yes, I can be there for lunch time, just need to know the final location. any others for lunch on Friday? Richard Dingman Chris Tripler Robert Pigeon (ex OBCer) Joel Freedman Matthew Glidden Ken Morganti Bob Donaldson On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 1:44 PM, chris tripler cetripler@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I know a couple of folks plan on coming up for the Shriner's show next > weekend in Wilmington, MA. > The show starts on Friday at noon. Should be a good show with Reggie > Jackson, Frank Robinson, and Rico Petrocelli and lots of local favorites. > In addition, some of the OBC recommended dealers such as Dick DeCourcy > (45/46), Jack Kerekes (265/266), Randy Kniffin (163), Mike McCann > (285/286), and Kevin Savage (109/110) will also be there. > I have been in contact with Rob Bessette who literally lives right down > the road from the Shriner's Auditorium to ask about places to eat. He has > recommended Tremezzos for pizza which opens at 11:30 and Red Heat for pub > food (also opens at 11:30). I suggest we meet right at 11:30, then head > over to the show afterwards. Let me know if you plan on coming on Friday > (only day I can go) or if you plan on going but not on Friday (that way I > can hand some handshakes off to folks staying through the weekend). > Cheers to OBC, > Trip ================= Date: 01 Nov 2016 08:43:25 -0700 To: Subject: Cubs From: twbilling@sbcglobal.net ================= Date: 01 Nov 2016 09:13:12 -0700 To: Subject: Favor for any Boston-area members near Weston MA From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 01 Nov 2016 09:46:34 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Favor for any Boston-area members near Weston MA From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:52:17 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Need some ID help From: ChicoD1@aol.com Mike McCann texted me today with these. Does anyone have info about the cards and set? I found one listing on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-9-Unopened-Packs-Sun-Pictures-Eclipse-Import- Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:21:46 -0400 To: tradingbases@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Angelfire website From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, My webpage is located on Angelfire which I have not been able to access since Thursday Does anyone else use Angelfire. I just want to make sure it just not me. Thanks for letting me know Happy Trading, ================= Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2016 17:11:42 -0400 To: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Angelfire website From: Thomas W. Billing It is NOT you, Kevin. Angel fire and Tripod, my site, are down for updating until yesterday, which means who knows when it will be back. I have beenhaving issues with Locos and their phasing out now. Tom Billing > On Nov 1, 2016, at 4:21 PM, KEVINM38@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hi all, > My webpage is located on Angelfire which I have not been able to access since > Does anyone else use Angelfire. I just want to make sure it just not me. > Thanks for letting me know > Happy Trading, > Kevin ================= Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 10:00:51 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wax pack wrappers From: Rick Got an email from from a collector I've traded with and he wants to start collecting vintage wrappers and was wondering if anyone in OBC had any dupesto trade/sell. If you want his email contact me and I'll give it to you. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:52:17 -0400 To: obcbobd@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 Topps Posters From: mikesportsfan@aol.com There are huge plastic "top loaders" made for these oversized posters. Theholders can cost more than the common posters. I finally finished the 1968 Topps Posters and am closing in on the 1972 Posters. The 1969 Team Posters are still far away. They are the same size as the 1968s. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Oct 30, 2016 3:34 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 Topps Posters Just picked up a nice looking Mantle at a Flea Market. Anyone have a decent way of storing or displaying these? ================= Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:59:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Let's Go Shrimps! From: Larry Tipton Jacksonville just renamed its AA baseball team. Was: Jacksonville Suns Now: Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimps I love it! Who needs a schedule! LOL! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:01:50 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Let's Go Shrimp From: Larry Tipton Correction it's Shrimp not Shrimps lol! Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 17:16:47 -0500 Subject: Nov 18-20 Rosemont, Illinois, Show From: "George Vrechek" I checked the websites for Uncle Dick and Kevin Savage as being representative OBC dealers and see that they are both scheduled to be at The Fanatics Rosemont (Chicago) Show. If the normal gang of dealers are back, perhaps this will be business as usual as opposed to an autograph show, which is what they ran in the spring. I plan to attend the Friday night show. Not sure about Saturday. Let me know, if anyone else plans to attend. George Vrechek ================= Date: 02 Nov 2016 19:19:19 -0700 To: Subject: Joe Bucko From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 01:02:20 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 108 From: ShoelessWes I've never seen a baseball series like this. Much less a World Series. How can anyone not love this game. Congrats to Cubs fans, and Indians fans too. Wes Shepard ================= Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 22:04:23 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Shout out to Cubs fans From: Mike Diamanti Wow..............I've been watching baseball since the 1950s, and I've never seen a better, more interesting, exceptional, gutsier, exciting WS than this one. Congrats to Geno Wagner and all the Cubs fans. CoffeeDude Diamanti ================= To: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 00:23:24 -0500 Subject: CUBS From: "George Vrechek" Was there ever a doubt? Of course there was doubt, up until the very last second of a 4 =BD hour game. Pretty tense for us Cub (and Sox) fans. George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:43:29 -0400 To: yahoogroups Subject: Shriners show this weekend From: chris tripler If anyone's up early to the Shriners show on Friday, join Joel and me for lunch at Tremezzo's restaurant on 2 Lowell St. In Wilmington at 11:30. Hope some other folks can make it. If not, see you there. I'll be wearing the correct OBC tshirt. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:23:53 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Guru "Wauction" #2 From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #2 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit on how many lots you request. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and roll dice to see who is the winner. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST. No notice to winners, these will just =E2=9Cshow up=E2=9D LOL 1952 Topps baseball #26 Monte Irvin Poor some paper loss top front and tape on bottom front. 1953 Topps baseball #78 Red Schoendienst G-VG BUT hole punched twice. 1954 Topps baseball #13 Billy Martin Good with very minor paper loss and staining. 1955 Bowman baseball #103 Eddie Mathews Good no major flaws. 1957 Topps baseball #18 Don Drysdale RC Poor Ink on front (Brooklyn replaced with LA twice!) and some paper loss on the back affects number and text. 1957 Topps baseball #20 Hank Aaron G-VG BUT ink drawn goatee detracts. Sorry 1957 Topps baseball #25 Whitey Ford Good minor tape on front and one cut corner. 1959 Topps baseball #571 Warren Spahn (All-Star) Poor paper loss front bottom due to tape removal. Clean back. 1960 Topps baseball #554 Willie McCovey (All-Star) G-VG BUT severe rubber band cut or BB hole along top edge detracts. 1970-71 Topps basketball (tall-boys) starter set of 21 different cards F-G with Chet Walker, Archie Clark, and Hal Greer. Tall-boy fever, catch it! ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 11:54:03 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 69-70 T hockey checklist on fleaBay From: Jake Elwell Older hockey checklists can be a real PITA if you're finishing a set. Here's a '69 Tipton with no action as yet: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?navitem.view&altweb&id222298779188&globalIDEBAY-US ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 12:33:53 -0400 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Next Slade show November 12th From: Mike Glasser I'm intending on being there again. However, I'll be on the Kiss Kruise tomorrow through Weds so it all depends on what happens at the home front while I'm away. I hope to be there though as I've picked up lots of stuff both times I've been. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2016 8:16 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Next Slade show November 12th Last time out we had four OBCers make the 30-table Slade show near BWI airport. I do believe everyone went home happy last month. This month's show is November 12th--starts at 0900. Who all might be attending--so that I can put together some handshakes. peter mead ================= Date: 03 Nov 2016 13:26:15 -0700 To: Subject: New From Toppsaholic From: twbilling@sbcglobal.net ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:56:35 -0400 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New From Toppsaholic [1 Attachment] From: "Thomas W. Billing" That pretty well sums it up. I wish I had thought of that line when he wasbending my ear. He kept saying that he had the only one so that should make it astronomical in price. I kept trying to explain that I seem to be the only person really interested so supply and demand should dictate the price. In one ear and out the other. Oh well. Tom Billing > On Nov 3, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Mike Glasser wrote: > That's called creating a market where there is none.. > I have lots of cards with rounded corners and some very rare ones with creases that they'll probably want to buy from me. > Mike > Mike Glasser > Owner > The Goddard School in Sparks, MD > 14630 York Road > Sparks, MD 21152 > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Thomas W. Billing' twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > To: OBC Ramblings > > Cc: twbilling > > Sent: Thu, Nov 3, 2016 4:28 pm > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New From Toppsaholic [1 Attachment] > [Attachment(s) from Thomas W. Billing included below] > Here is the latest from Toppaholic. My topic did not show this. It WAS $32.85 and now is $150.00. Talk about chutzpah! > Tom Billing > > On Nov 3, 2016, at 4:26 PM, twbilling@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > > Notice the re listing on this item. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 22:49:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko From: Tim newcomb Funny! Some of the arcane records were pretty silly, I agree. But I thought Smoltz was really fascinating to listen to- he gives you the inside story of batter-pitcher dynamics better than any announcer I've everheard. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko The shortest person to homer in the 7th game......................................... The fattest person............................... Back to muting the game. Bill Ashton ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:03:43 +0000 (UTC) To: Tim newcomb Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko From: familytoad@comcast.net Smoltz good Buck bad Too bad that Joe doesn't let John speak more. Joe wont stop talking long enough...but I did notice that he gave credit tohis partner for being a baseball HOFer at least 76 times in case we didn'tknow. Also from the Joe Buck files....both teams scored exactly 27 runs in the World Series, befitting for a series that extended to the 10th inning of Game7. That hasn't happened since 1948 when ironically Cleveland matched theiropponent for the last Indian victory (and CoffeeDiamanti was just a wee baby Still a great, I mean GREAT World Series which made baseball proud. The playoffs were a lot of fun this year, and like the Indians and my Phillies...Icannot wait 'till next year! OBC Forever, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim newcomb apspr@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wmcashton@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 3:49:07 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko Funny! Some of the arcane records were pretty silly, I agree. But I thought Smoltz was really fascinating to listen to- he gives you the inside story of batter-pitcher dynamics better than any announcer I've everheard. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko The shortest person to homer in the 7th game......................................... The fattest person............................... Back to muting the game. Bill Ashton ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:08:56 +0000 (UTC) To: Tim newcomb , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko From: Geno Wagner The best was that Kyle Hendricks is 0-7, when the Cubs score one run or less. Really? That is a meaningful stat? What guy in the league has a winning record when being shutout? And I hate records that are "most (fill in the nlank) in post season play."They play so many more games now, so it's meaningless unless you use averages or something. I miss Harry Caray. No stats, just names spelled backwards and hellosto his old pal Pete Vanokin from Peoria... Take Care,Geno Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 16:49, Tim newcomb apspr@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Funny! Some of the arcane records were pretty silly, I agree. But I thought Smoltz was really fascinating to listen to- he gives you the inside story of batter-pitcher dynamics better than any announcer I've everheard. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko The shortest person to homer in the 7th game......................................... The fattest person............................... Back to muting the game. Bill Ashton ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:10:19 +0000 (UTC) To: Tim newcomb , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko From: Geno Wagner The best was that Kyle Hendricks is 0-7, when the Cubs score one run or less. Really? That is a meaningful stat? What guy in the league has a winning record when being shutout? And I hate records that are "most (fill in the nlank) in post season play."They play so many more games now, so it's meaningless unless you use averages or something. I miss Harry Caray. No stats, just names spelled backwards and hellosto his old pal Pete Vanokin from Peoria... Take Care,Geno Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 16:49, Tim newcomb apspr@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Funny! Some of the arcane records were pretty silly, I agree. But I thought Smoltz was really fascinating to listen to- he gives you the inside story of batter-pitcher dynamics better than any announcer I've everheard. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko The shortest person to homer in the 7th game......................................... The fattest person............................... Back to muting the game. Bill Ashton ================= Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:11:37 +0000 (UTC) To: "illini_grad_90@yahoo.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko From: Geno Wagner I actually thought ARod did a really nice job. he was pretty serious about doing well...and he did for his first time out of the gate. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 17:08, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] The best was that Kyle Hendricks is 0-7, when the Cubs score one run or less. Really? That is a meaningful stat? What guy in the league has a winning record when being shutout? And I hate records that are "most (fill in the nlank) in post season play."They play so many more games now, so it's meaningless unless you use averages or something. I miss Harry Caray. No stats, just names spelled backwards and hellosto his old pal Pete Vanokin from Peoria... Take Care,Geno Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Funny! Some of the arcane records were pretty silly, I agree. But I thought Smoltz was really fascinating to listen to- he gives you the inside story of batter-pitcher dynamics better than any announcer I've everheard. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:19 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Joe Bucko The shortest person to homer in the 7th game......................................... The fattest person............................... Back to muting the game. Bill Ashton ================= To: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 09:39:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Joe Bucko et al From: "George Vrechek" We probably get tired of listening to anyone who is the principal voice for 7 games (except maybe Vince Scully). Buck makes it all sound a little too important and the stats were a bit silly, but it's a tough job, and we didn't get Bob Costas. Smoltz was good, but Steve Stone, who used to provide analysis for the Cubs and now with the White Sox, is really good. He tells you why and how and opine as to what the next key pitch is likely to be. He knows the players' strengths and weaknesses, but Smoltz was probably more diplomatic. I would have listened to the AM radio Chicago broadcast along with the TV video, but you can't get AM radio reception in a high A Rod was good. Pete Rose must be there intentionally to stir things up. Frank Thomas came off as likeable, especially compared to Rose, but viewers It would have been nice if they switched off the commercials and crowd shots more quickly so that you could see the entire pitch being made to the batter. Camera shots were pretty amazing though, especially having enough cameras to catch the reaction of several players to key plays. I'll remember Lester's first two batters, Chapman's 8th inning, Schwarber's hit in the 10th, Almora's tag up, Zobrist coming through again, the last out and a sigh of relief. Great memories. And there will be baseball cards available to purchase to commemorate it all. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 19:19:36 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: two HOF footballers needed From: mark zentkovich I am down to 6 in my football hof list does anyone have : Mike DitkaWillie Wood looking for any year during playing career, any condition prefer topps/philly over other brands if you have one you would like to trade please let me know thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 15:40:45 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Guru "Waction" Ends Sunday 0600 FAIR WARNIG From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D #2 (A combination =E2=9CWaiver-Wire=E2=9D and =E2=9CAuction=E2=9D) rules: send me a private email message telling me what lot number/numbers you would like to have. No limit on how many lots you request. I=E2=99ll keep track of who is interested in each lot, and roll dice to see who is the winner. Gurus =E2=9CWauction=E2=9D ends this Sunday at 6AM EST. No notice to winners, these will just =E2=9Cshow up=E2=9D LOL 1952 Topps baseball #26 Monte Irvin Poor some paper loss top front and tape on bottom front. 1953 Topps baseball #78 Red Schoendienst G-VG BUT hole punched twice. 1954 Topps baseball #13 Billy Martin Good with very minor paper loss and staining. 1955 Bowman baseball #103 Eddie Mathews Good no major flaws. 1957 Topps baseball #18 Don Drysdale RC Poor Ink on front (Brooklyn replaced with LA twice!) and some paper loss on the back affects number and text. 1957 Topps baseball #20 Hank Aaron G-VG BUT ink drawn goatee detracts. Sorry 1957 Topps baseball #25 Whitey Ford Good minor tape on front and one cut corner. 1959 Topps baseball #571 Warren Spahn (All-Star) Poor paper loss front bottom due to tape removal. Clean back. 1960 Topps baseball #554 Willie McCovey (All-Star) G-VG BUT severe rubber band cut or BB hole along top edge detracts. 1970-71 Topps basketball (tall-boys) starter set of 21 different cards F-G with Chet Walker, Archie Clark, and Hal Greer. Tall-boy fever, catch it! ================= Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 15:45:05 -0400 To: mark zentkovich Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] two HOF footballers needed From: Joel Freedman I will send willow wood On Friday, November 4, 2016, mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > I am down to 6 in my football hof list > does anyone have : > Mike Ditka > Willie Wood > looking for any year during playing career, any condition > prefer topps/philly over other brands > if you have one you would like to trade please let me know > thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: 04 Nov 2016 13:54:05 -0700 To: Subject: Independence Ohio show, this Sunday 10-4 From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 22:38:11 +0000 (UTC) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: change email From: mark holland Hey guys, I have taken a contract job to work in Vicksburg, Mi for 6 months. During that time I won't have much access to my cards except on my quick trips home (11 hr drive). I am trying to change my OBC emails to my yahoo account as I am having problems accessing my Road Runner account. I don't know where those emails are ending up. All I really care about are the OBC servers. Can someone send me a note about how to change my email in the servers to my yahoo account? Does changing the profile do it? Thanks for your help. Send me some pictures of your cards occasionally.Mark ================= Date: 04 Nov 2016 16:40:30 -0700 To: Subject: Hockey Waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 23:09:50 -0400 To: mholland28412@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] change email From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Vicksburg is about 2 1/4 hours from metro Detroit. It is also extremely close to Kalamazoo, where Mike Galbreath lives and about 2 hours from Canadian Lakes, MI where John Scott Gray is. I hope you will find time to tryand meet up with some of us while you are in MI. I know you are primarilya BB fan, but if you would like to catch a Pistons or Red Wings game, we can set up a meet up. If you do not go home around Christmas, there is a College Hockey Tournament, the GLI Dec. 29 & 30, and also a college FB bowl game, Quick Lane Bowl on December 26. These are frequently attended by a few of the FOOT guys. If you do not like to drive, there is always the Kalamazoo Wings (hockey) a Tampa Bay, not Detroit affiliate. They have a game on Saturday, December 10, where there will be a travelling exhibit from the Hockey HOF. Please let us know. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 6:38 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] change email Hey guys, I have taken a contract job to work in Vicksburg, Mi for 6 months. During that time I won't have much access to my cards except on my quicktrips home (11 hr drive). I am trying to change my OBC emails to my yahoo account as I am having problems accessing my Road Runner account. I don't know where those emails are ending up. All I really care about are the OBCservers. Can someone send me a note about how to change my email in the servers to my yahoo account? Does changing the profile do it? Thanks for your help. Send me some pictures of your cards occasionally. Mark Holland ================= Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 23:54:16 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Wilmington thanks and show report From: Ken M Hi gang,  I've been planning to attend this show for a couple weeks, so I put in for two vacation days. Last week they begged me to come into work, so I ended up working 5 hours this morning. I got out at 11 and the store is only a 15 minute drive from the restaurant (Tremmezzos) I was going to meet everyone for lunch. By everyone, I mean Joel Freedman and Chris Tripler. Rob Bessette, who had recommended the place, was a maybe at best. The food was superb and conversation was excellent as well.  I did get a pair of customary OBC handshakes. JOEL FREEDMAN handed me a pair of 1977 OPC's - HOF'er Don Sutton and an inaugural year Expos Del Unser. There was also a snack cake card cut from a box bottom, but it was about ten years newer than any Hostess set. THANKS JOEL!!  CHRIS TRIPLER told us about his quest to deliver a holiday card with at least one card in it to everyone in the group. My envelope had a Christmas card and... now I know Chris told me what it was and I can't fo r the life of me remember. It's a B/W Del Bissonette (Brooklyn Dodgers) that I remember was from the 30's (or was it 20's?) I had guessed Wide Pen, but I don't think he said that was right. Chris also added a small box of stuff that I've been progressively claiming off his UV waiver wires. THANKS TRIP!!   After lunch, we headed to the show. I barely saw either one of them much after that until Chris had to leave at around 5 or so(?) For the most part, I walked the show in a methodical row by row pattern. Found a 1969 Mantle for $35 early on and couldn't pass it up as usual. Later on, I came across a tub marked $10 ea. or 5/$45. I spotted 3 T205's (one was most of a Hoblitzell - cor, no Cin) and decided to throw in a couple 57's (Kubek and Colavito RC's) for my five $9 cards. Stopped by Mike McCann's table and found a single card for a buck. However, I wasn't about to spend just a dollar there after how well he's treated us at the National (and everywhere for that matter) I got a Ken Dryden RC that's a lot nicer than the rest of my set for $30.  I finally made it to the back row about an hour before the show ended. There's a guy at Just Collect that I've known from back in the AOL Grandstand (and message boards) for 20-25 years. Most of the stuff at the table is too nice for my liking - and way above my pay grade. Anyway we strike up a conversation and he says something to the effect of, "Hey, how about if I put together a box for your swap at the National? It's all lower grade stuff we can't sell. (Authentic - but trimmed, altered, color added etc.) I'm just gonna throw it out otherwise." I don't know if he saw me cringe ...or tears began to well up when he mentioned THROWING CARDS AWAY and I may have stood there in semi-shock. He didn't want anyone to be offended or insulted by offering the cards to us like we were some sort of cardboard "dumpster divers". (That is the exact phrase he used). I managed to compose myself and told him that som e of us are proud of being dumpster divers and we would happily accept anything, especially considering they would otherwise be :::gulp::: thrown away. So we'll have one more table to stop by at next year's National - if not to buy anything, but at least stop by and say thanks.  With time winding down, I stopped by Uncle Dick's table and decimated my hockey lists from his 50-cent box. I might have to stop by tomorrow and look through his albums as well.  Overall, it was a pretty good first day. It should be busy tomorrow, so I bought a ticket to get in on my way back to the car. I won't be able to go Sunday due to work and softball on my schedule, so it'll be my last hurrah unti Chicago in July. Thanks as usual for reading. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= To: George Vrechek , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 11:12:22 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Joe Bucko et al From: Yaz I thought Smoltz was eerily good. Many times during this series, (and I've noted this in previous games in which he was involved in), he predicts outcomes of particular moments with extreme accuracy. But not just predicts it but explains why in a very detailed way the other analysts never can get to. I get to hear a lot of different announcers nowadays because of MLB network's coverage of all the games. I listened to Vin back in the mid sixties to mid seventies and always will be a fan of his style but it's unique. With two and sometimes three voices in the booth at once, the pairing is important. I loved tuning into Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy because together they were just flat out entertaining and when Eck took over for Remy, I thought he was the best analyst ever. Now when Eck is paired with other play by play guys, he seems held back some and Remy with O'Brian is just so-so. The networks seem to think an announcer that leans towards hyperbole is needed for the World Series and they may be right because a majority of the viewers probably don't watch baseball year round and want the exaggerated descriptions of the stars of the game. Smoltz appears capable of being great in any pairing and I look forward to listening to him for years to come. Sorry for this long ramble. Kinda got out of hand. Greg (yaz) On 11/4/2016 9:39 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > We probably get tired of listening to anyone who is the principal > voice for 7 games (except maybe Vince Scully). Buck makes it all sound > a little too important and the stats were a bit silly, but it’s a > tough job, and we didn’t get Bob Costas. Smoltz was good, but Steve > Stone, who used to provide analysis for the Cubs and now with the > White Sox, is really good. He tells you why and how and opine as to > what the next key pitch is likely to be. He knows the players’ > strengths and weaknesses, but Smoltz was probably more diplomatic. I > would have listened to the AM radio Chicago broadcast along with the > TV video, but you can’t get AM radio reception in a high rise. > A Rod was good. Pete Rose must be there intentionally to stir things > up. Frank Thomas came off as likeable, especially compared to Rose, > but viewers watched. > It would have been nice if they switched off the commercials and crowd > shots more quickly so that you could see the entire pitch being made > to the batter. Camera shots were pretty amazing though, especially > having enough cameras to catch the reaction of several players to key > plays. > I’ll remember Lester’s first two batters, Chapman’s 8^th inning, > Schwarber’s hit in the 10^th , Almora’s tag up, Zobrist coming through > again, the last out and a sigh of relief. > Great memories. And there will be baseball cards available to purchase > to commemorate it all. > George Vrechek ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 16:19:03 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Joe Bucko et al From: Tim newcomb Yes, Stoney is excellent, but I thought Smoltz was uncanny, as Greg says. Not only did he predict specific outcomes over and over, but I found myselfthinking my usual brilliant thoughts (:)) about the game and especially about the pitch-by-pitch that I do when I am really watching a game, and he kept verbalizing those very thoughts, over and over. In other words, he's brilliant because he had the same ideas I did, haw haw. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Yaz yazobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 11:12 AM To: George Vrechek; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Joe Bucko et al I thought Smoltz was eerily good. Many times during this series, (and I've noted this in previous games in which he was involved in), he predicts outcomes of particular moments with extreme accuracy. But not just predicts it but explains why in a very detailed way the other analysts never can get to. I get to hear a lot of different announcers nowadays because of MLB network's coverage of all the games. I listened to Vin back in the mid sixties to mid seventies and always will be a fan of his style but it's unique. Withtwo and sometimes three voices in the booth at once, the pairing is important. I loved tuning into Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy because together they were just flat out entertaining and when Eck took over for Remy, I thought he was the best analyst ever. Now when Eck is paired with other play by playguys, he seems held back some and Remy with O'Brian is just so-so. The networks seem to think an announcer that leans towards hyperbole is needed forthe World Series and they may be right because a majority of the viewers probably don't watch baseball year round and want the exaggerated descriptions of the stars of the game. Smoltz appears capable of being great in any pairing and I look forward to listening to him for years to come. Sorry for this long ramble. Kinda got out of hand. Greg (yaz) On 11/4/2016 9:39 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: We probably get tired of listening to anyone who is the principal voice for7 games (except maybe Vince Scully). Buck makes it all sound a little too important and the stats were a bit silly, but it=92s a tough job, and we didn=92t get Bob Costas. Smoltz was good, but Steve Stone, who used to provide analysis for the Cubs and now with the White Sox, is really good. He tells you why and how and opine as to what the next key pitch is likely to be.He knows the players=92 strengths and weaknesses, but Smoltz was probably more diplomatic. I would have listened to the AM radio Chicago broadcast along with the TV video, but you can=92t get AM radio reception in a high rise. A Rod was good. Pete Rose must be there intentionally to stir things up. Frank Thomas came off as likeable, especially compared to Rose, but viewers watched. It would have been nice if they switched off the commercials and crowd shots more quickly so that you could see the entire pitch being made to the batter. Camera shots were pretty amazing though, especially having enough cameras to catch the reaction of several players to key plays. I=92ll remember Lester=92s first two batters, Chapman=92s 8th inning, Schwarber=92s hit in the 10th, Almora=92s tag up, Zobrist coming through again, the last out and a sigh of relief. Great memories. And there will be baseball cards available to purchase to commemorate it all. George Vrechek ================= Date: 05 Nov 2016 12:17:31 -0700 To: Subject: Toronto show From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2016 23:01:32 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Wilmington show - Day 2 report From: Ken M Hi all,  Today I returned to the show looking to pad my dupes box with beat up cheap stuff. I did OK, but nothing earth shattering. I started off in the back of the show today - the opposite of yesterday. Got through about a row and a half when I got a text from Spike. "I'm in the back row. Are you here yet?" I met up with him and we went back to where I left off. We quickly found a table with stacks of $2 cards that had been pretty well picked through. I did find a few dollar cards and Spike located a few '75 minis at 3/$1.  Around the corner from there, I saw another table with assorted bulk deals. I got a 300 ct. box of 70's hockey for 40 bucks. It yielded a few hits to my sets (and a bunch of upgrades). It also had a partial set of story books (the stars were picked out) and a partial set of glossies with a few stars mixed in. There was also a set of team stickers I couldn't find in my Charlton guide. There's a team logo on the top and a pennant logo underneath. Any ide a on them? I'm thinking early 70's before the glossy sets, but after expansion (there were logos for Seals, Canucks and Sabres).   At another table there were various boxes (ten cent, 50 cent, dollar, two dollars) with mostly UV, but there was a small box of vintage marked 5% of book. Now I'm interested! Picked out a 55 high number Hodges for around 8 bucks and he hands me another one from behind the table. It's a 10% box. I chose a Yaz RC for $20 from that.   The final bargain box find was in the front row. Everything on the table - ten cents apiece. I searched through a bunch of monster boxes and pulled a couple dozen 1973 highs plus about 30 highs from 1971 (about 2/3 of which were SP's). He also had half a row of 1977 Twinkie cards that I grabbed a couple of each - there was a lot of duplication. I ended up needing most of them and getting a dupe of each to trade too. I need to sit down and come up with a wantlist for these soon.  Last stop of the day was Uncle Dick 's, where I completed my 1971-72 hockey set with the last half dozen or so. I made a lot of progress on my hockey sets at this show. Of the 3 older sets left on my list, I don't need too many stars other that that Bobby Orr guy for two of them. The 67-68 set is short a few other stars too. Orr is expensive enough without the hometown markup he gets here, but I did end up buying one of the three I needed from Kevin Savage.  Almost forgot to mention - I was talking with Mike McCann early in the day. He had this idea about doing an OBC style show - the way it ought to be: No autograph guests, so the people who are there are there for the show. Low table fees (mostly vintage dealers of course) and one booth for card submission - and we get them to be corporate sponsors. OBC gets money to use for our website costs. He was figuring out where might be a good place to have it, if guys from the group would attend, how big the hall would have to be, advertising, etc. I think he said he might get in touch with Sal about it later.  Overall, I think the show was a success for dealers and collectors alike. It was well attended and there were plenty of deals to be had. If finished three sets (1970-71 Topps hockey, 1976 Wonder Bread FB and 1980 Superstar), although the latter two were both $5 complete set purchases. I also started a new set: 1971 hockey story books (I only need all the stars unfortunately). Now begins the long winter wait until my next show in July. At least I have plenty of time to start saving. Thanks for reading. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 10:51:40 -0500 To: mark holland Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg update From: Yahoo So are you saying if I need directions i should not ask you!. Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 6, 2016, at 10:47, mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Well my plans for a show next weekend with JD just changed. My initial posting to the group said that I was in Vicksburg MI. I should have said Vicksburg, MS. JD just got me squared away, I am in Vicksburg, Mississippi. SCD lists one show in Jackson,MS (about an hour away), Anybody else in this part of the country. > Sorry for the confusion JD, at least we had a good laugh about it. > Mark Holland ================= To: "'mark holland'" , Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 08:03:33 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg update From: "Grant Rainsley" Big Al=E2=99s spirit lives on within OBC always =E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:48 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg update Well my plans for a show next weekend with JD just changed. My initial posting to the group said that I was in Vicksburg MI. I should have said Vicksburg, MS. JD just got me squared away, I am in Vicksburg, Mississippi. SCD lists one show in Jackson,MS (about an hour away), Anybody else in this part of the country. Sorry for the confusion JD, at least we had a good laugh about it. Mark Holland ================= Date: 06 Nov 2016 12:23:45 -0800 To: Subject: Hassan Triple Folders Question From: rangersteve7@optonline.net ================= Date: 06 Nov 2016 14:02:41 -0800 To: Subject: Local show update From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 17:02:52 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Cards in movies From: Rob Bessette I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I was just watching Stuart Little with my kids and saw a 1954 Bowman Willie Mays. Kinda funny. ================= To: "OCTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:12:07 +0000 Subject: Sporting News issues available (1980s+) From: Taylor Schock Sorry for the blast, but I wanted to check in with as many possible who might be interested before these go to recycle. I have about 7 large computer paper boxes full of The Sporting News from the 1980s on up. I'm not sure what year they start (yet), but I wasn't about to try and figure that out (yet). I do know there are some from the mid-80s, and may be earlier. The EASIEST thing for me to do would be to just dump these into the recyclebin, but the collector in me has a hard time doing that. So I thought I would check to see if anyone was interested in any of these. I will probably be looking through these myself anyway, but wanted to give a heads up so I could do all the checking at the same time. If you are a player or team collector and are looking for any covers with those, looking for special dates or issues, or whatever, let me know and I'll keep an eye out for them. ================= Date: 06 Nov 2016 15:32:33 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Sporting News issues available (1980s+) From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 23:50:18 +0000 (UTC) To: "rangersteve7@optonline.net" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hassan Triple Folders Question From: Geno Wagner I bought a bunch of those at one time to distribute around OBC. Five bucks is about right for commons, but a Cobb can go for $100 or so. Take Care,Geno Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 15:23, rangersteve7@optonline.net [OBC-Ramblings] I would like to know what the OBC members thoughts are on the Hassan TripleFolder cards, not the triple card itself, but the individual portraits on each end. Is there any value to the separated portraits themselves? Just wondering and interested in your opinions and expertise. Thank you. Steve SanknerOBC-2016 ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 01:41:14 +0000 (UTC) To: Tim newcomb Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Joe Bucko et al From: tvalacak@comcast.net I'm going to echo the sentiments on Steve Stone and John Smoltz. For years,weather its with the Cubs or White Sox here in Chicago, Stone has providedgreat insight into what pitches to throw game in game out. I have always found him to be extremly knowledgeable and a great listen. He is an ace in the Smoltz has been working for MLB for two seasons, I think. Since I first heard him breaking down games, I have found him to be very interesting. Very good. I thought he was excellent in the World Series. He knows his stuff andoffers great perspective about the game, particularly the bump. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim newcomb apspr@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 11:19:03 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Joe Bucko et al Yes, Stoney is excellent, but I thought Smoltz was uncanny, as Greg says. Not only did he predict specific outcomes over and over, but I found myself thinking my usual brilliant thoughts (:)) about the game and especially about the pitch-by-pitch that I do when I am really watching a game, and he kept verbalizing those very thoughts, over and over. In other words, he's brilliant because he had the same ideas I did, haw haw. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Yaz yazobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 11:12 AM To: George Vrechek; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Joe Bucko et al I thought Smoltz was eerily good. Many times during this series, (and I've noted this in previous games in which he was involved in), he predicts outcomes of particular moments with extreme accuracy. But not just predicts it but explains why in a very detailed way the other analysts never can get to. I get to hear a lot of different announcers nowadays because of MLB network's coverage of all the games. I listened to Vin back in the mid sixties to mid seventies and always will be a fan of his style but it's unique. Withtwo and sometimes three voices in the booth at once, the pairing is important. I loved tuning into Don Orsillo and Jerry Remy because together they were just flat out entertaining and when Eck took over for Remy, I thought he was the best analyst ever. Now when Eck is paired with other play by playguys, he seems held back some and Remy with O'Brian is just so-so. The networks seem to think an announcer that leans towards hyperbole is needed forthe World Series and they may be right because a majority of the viewers probably don't watch baseball year round and want the exaggerated descriptions of the stars of the game. Smoltz appears capable of being great in any pairing and I look forward to listening to him for years to come. Sorry for this long ramble. Kinda got out of hand. Greg (yaz) On 11/4/2016 9:39 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] We probably get tired of listening to anyone who is the principal voice for7 games (except maybe Vince Scully). Buck makes it all sound a little too important and the stats were a bit silly, but it=E2=99s a tough job, andwe didn=E2=99t get Bob Costas. Smoltz was good, but Steve Stone, who used to provide analysis for the Cubs and now with the White Sox, is really good. He tells you why and how and opine as to what the next key pitch is likely to be. He knows the players=E2=99 strengths and weaknesses, but Smoltz was probably more diplomatic. I would have listened to the AM radio Chicago broadcast along with the TV video, but you can=E2=99t get AM radio reception in a high rise. A Rod was good. Pete Rose must be there intentionally to stir things up. Frank Thomas came off as likeable, especially compared to Rose, but viewers watched. It would have been nice if they switched off the commercials and crowd shots more quickly so that you could see the entire pitch being made to the batter. Camera shots were pretty amazing though, especially having enough cameras to catch the reaction of several players to key plays. I=E2=99ll remember Lester=E2=99s first two batters, Chapman=E2=99s8 th inning, Schwarber=E2=99s hit in the 10 th , Almora=E2=99s tag up, Zobrist coming through again, the last out and a sigh of relief. Great memories. And there will be baseball cards available to purchase to commemorate it all. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 21:00:22 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Toy Town Stamps From: Andy Huntoon Hey All, I just won an e95 Krause with a Toy Town stamp. I remember these stamps were significant on some candy cards years ago Can any of you prewar guys add any insight on them for me? I think I got a good deal on it for $26 regardless of the stamp but I don'tknow if they still hold any premium these days. Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 21:51:43 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Shriner's Show - Wilmington Ma From: Joel Freedman Met up with Chris Tripler, Matthew Glidden, Bob Donaldson and Ken Morganti.Had a wonderful time talking about sports and cards. Thanks to Chris for a 64 Topps Lou Brock, an early Christmas card. Bob Donaldson for 4 - 1951 Bowman. Matthew for a pair of 52=92s and and a pair of 53=92s. Thanks guys!! ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 06:31:31 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Wssca report (semi brief version not) From: familytoad@comcast.net of you in the Midwest and Northeast appear to have frequent card show opportunities but we here in the soggy NW only have the Washington State Sports Collecting Association semi-annual to gather for our card show pleasures.
This show is early June and early November every year.
I try to make it, almost solely to hang out with Rick Lyons and Dave Fallen and speakkindly of how we used to see Big Al and CoffeeDiamanti on occasion. Then of course we talk about Grant since he's Canadian and too far away now to hear :-)

But there are always cards too. The second best part!
I didn't get to see Dave this trip since I was only there Saturday and for a few hours this time.
I actually rode up and back in the pouring torrentialrain with a couple local Portland collectors, great guys too...as it seemscard collectors are great guys in general.

Great guy Rick handed mea pair of 1954 Red Hearts, including a Sherm Lollar that I had once given him! Easy to spot since it had the punch hole. The Alvin Dark that he handed me, and the Red Schoendienst that I bought don't have holes (yet)
Thank you Rick! It is always great to see you!

I ended up with 6 cards to my difficult Topps list. 4 of those were the super tough 67 high numbers including the Red Sox team and Mickey Stanley. They cost a lot. Boy those two in particular are hard cards don't you think !?!?!

I also startedmy second non-sports set. The Addams family set from 1964!
Amusing story behind that, but this note will no longer be "brief" if I tell it now.

Along with a dozen OBAK hits from super guy Mark Macrae and my biggesthaul ever of Turkey Reds (T3) , I had a very successful show. Even Grant did well and he wasn't there LOL.

(Prolonging the brevity promise, incase you were curious, I picked up THREE T3 HOFers, Crawford, Griffith andLajoie=83)

I'll end it here, but letting you know that it's a very good, fun show. You should try it!

OBC Forever
Brian


Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 12:15:36 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: GBCCS/Wilmington Show over the weekend From: chris tripler Was able to make it only to Friday, but still wildly successful... Started off with a nice lunch with KEN MORGANTI & JOEL FREEDMAN at a place called Tremezzo's. Decent Italian place, which was suggested by ROB BESSETTE, to bad he couldn't have joined us. JOEL handed me a very nice handshake,thanks on another server... At the show, I was looking to finish the '67T set with only 9 cards to go, it should have been challenging but not impossible. As I walk in the show JOEL points me to a table at the end of the first row, the guy has one hit Ineed but he has a bunch of the double print high numbers for $4 each in very nice condition. So, I nabbed all he had and these will be someone's Xmas/holiday gift in the next two months (watch your boxes boys). Then, I just was systematic in hitting every table I could asking about the '67highs. Every time the same look of consternation or grim "I don't think so" look on everyone's face. If they had them, they were always right at high book regardless of condition. Along the way, I found a couple hits here and there. Iran into Mike McGann's table and he didn't have any but he did have a couple of OBC cards which I quickly scooped up, '54-55T Hockey #60 Mike Schmidt, a 1920s Hockey strip card, and a '48 Leaf Football #16 Pihos & '49 Leaf Football #118, which he quickly discounted in half from his already bottom price (all together $20 and they weren't that bad). Mike is a great guy to talk to and always has a kind word for OBC. He sent me over to the next table for '67 highs, Charley O'Neil out of Albany. Super nice guy, he didn't have any '67s but he had two binders of OBC type material '50s to early '60s,and we was willing to sell for a reasonable price (700 '60s cards for $200for one binder and $325 for the 350 cards of '50s binder, or $450 altogether, I kinda wished I pulled the trigger and took them). In any case, he says he would be willing to set aside more material like that for us in the future...I said absolutely. So, if you see Charley O'Neil at any of your shows, let him know you are from OBC. In any case, I continued my quest, and I came up with 6 of the 8 more I needed including #600 Brooks Robinson, whichI paid $90 for a decent one, and the others I paid about market for them $20-30 a piece leaving only the Seaver and one other. And as for the Seaver,there were two at the show...one marked for $400 and another a PSA 9, which I didn't see myself, but I'm sure it was ridiculous. I did rifle through a couple of $0.50 boxes and picked up some '50s football needs. And, I did manage to find a '62T #142 Babe Ruth in a $1 box in fact there were 2, but one turned out to be a greed tint. So that filled 2 needs cheaply and I didfind a near complete set 56/60 of Wills' Cigarettes (from 1930's) "Household Hints" put out by the Imperial Tobacco Co. for $5, getting me closer to the 50,000 vintage card goal a little quicker. I was hoping to fill up a box with some $0.10 purchases of which there were several nice boxes strewn through out the show (one had a stack of very nice '70T miscuts that made me think of DINGMAN), but was out of money and time at that point. All in all a great show. If it hadn't fallen on the anniversary weekend, I might have gotten to catch up with a couple more folks. Now, the long winter till Chicago...many a boxes of vintage lurking in the attics and basements of old New England homes, just waiting to be unearthed for OBC... Enjoy!TripOBC 2015 ================= Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 04:53:52 -0800 To: Andy Huntoon , OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Toy Town Stamps From: wite3 ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 09:00:06 -0500 To: wite3 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Toy Town Stamps From: Andy Huntoon Thank Joshua. I didn't think there was any real premium for them anymore. But what struckme was the fact that SGC labeled it with "Toy Town Stamp" on the flip. That's really why I was wondering if they still had value. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:53 AM, wite3 wrote: > The stamps no longer hold much significance...it was finally discovered afew year ago that the stamps come from a small toy kit and that apparentlysome kid or collector just stamped the cards. .. > Search Toy Town on Net54 and you will find it discussed there. > Joshua > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 11/6/16 6:00 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Toy Town Stamps > Hey All, > I just won an e95 Krause with a Toy Town stamp. I remember these stamps were significant on some candy cards years ago > Can any of you prewar guys add any insight on them for me? > I think I got a good deal on it for $26 regardless of the stamp but I don't know if they still hold any premium these days. > Thanks, > Andy Huntoon > Sent from my iPhone > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: Andy Huntoon > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 10:25:26 -0500 Subject: Shriner's Show REport From: "Bob Donaldson" This weekend was the Shriner's Show which is by far the best show in New England. My participation was limited as I had my daughter this weekend, however, I was able to visit on Friday and Saturday. On Friday I took the day off from work and was able to spend a couple of hours in the afternoon at the show. Met up with Joel Freedman and we both hit a table with many deals on $2 cards. Picked up quite a few some I needed but most will go to the dups box. Also hit Uncle Dicks table and made some hits to my early Bowman sets. Came back Saturday, around noon. Only had a few hours to spend. I immediately noticed Spike and walked up to him, only to hear my name called over the loudspeaker as the winner of a $200 shopping spree. I used that money to splurge on an E121 Ty Cobb. Met up for lunch with Spike, Ken, and Joel. My apologies for not staying very long, but I had to get back home. Hopefully stay longer next time and meet up with some more OBCers Show thanks to Joel for a pair of 55 Bowman hits and Spike for five hits to my National Chicle "Fine Pens". ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 14:38:10 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Taking a bit of a break...but some good news! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I wanted to give you a heads up that I plan to be less active over the nextcouple months or so with OBC and my other groups as I really need to focuson my business and there is potential that I might be grabbing a second job in town. Although I wish to keep my active status with OBC, I did trim my website WAY down by putting my lists on a Word file for safe keeping later. I'll bring them back out later as I get the time. I have found that I struggle keeping a balance between my hobby and business, so this is much needed until I get this all better organized. Additionally, I did receive word from Paul Fusco, the promoter for Strongsville, that I've been asked back for April 2017. I'm not sure if I will have the same tables or not, but I will update you when I know more. Also, you might see a spike in my Virtual Card Store activity, as I plan to start posting a lot more. That server has been great help for me since I became a"Certified OBC Dealer", and I want to help more members by posting my inventory. Have a great day! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 11:38:28 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Wssca show From: Rick Our semi annual show was this weekend didn't go with great hope of finding much since my focus has been on Venezuelans. I picked up a big lot of 70/71topps basketball,mix of football and a bunch of Nonsport cards. Almost complete sets of The monkees series C,69 planet of the apes missing one card,black bat batman and Brian bought the Adams family cards before I could. Brian then gave me all the ones I needed to get me close to completion and leaving him with half of a set. Was great to see Brian again even if for short time it wasn't a unforgettable show but I think that was more on me than the show. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 07 Nov 2016 13:44:07 -0800 To: Subject: Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 17:57:34 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Ken M Ed,   I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care.   There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values the group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one message from me because they're not on the U V server. A lot of times I'll send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different creative ways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either.  Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:03:04 -0500 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Andy Huntoon There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UVstuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards andI always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate forthat reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on theThanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Ed, > I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for thevintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. > There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package?Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different creative ways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out.I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I readabout someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either. > Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. TAYL, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 19:32:14 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC "shout-out" in Auction Catalog From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Todays mail brought the =E2=9CLove of the Game=E2=9D (LOTG) Fall 2016Premier Auction Catalog. On the welcome page, LOTG owner Al Crisafulli uses the auction intro to =E2=9Cdirect people to some of the outstanding online communities and otherhobbyists the can make the hobby more enjoyable=E2=9D. Al introduces Net54, and then mentions the PSA and SGC websites. Then he says: =E2=9CAnd I=E2=99d certainly encourage collectors to visit the OBC collecting community, which can be found online at oldbaseball.com OBC is a group of true collectors, people who are often less concerned with investment and value, and more concerned with preserving the hobby and it=E2=99s history=E2=9D. A nice shout out for our club! I=E2=99ve had some luck with this auction, but if you are new to the auction world, don=E2=99t forget to figure in the buyers premium 23% extra (3% discounted if paid by check or money order). www.LoveOfTheGameAuctions.com ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 20:10:18 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: Re: Proposal Modification to the Thanks forum From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I disagree with the changes proposed by Ed. I am one of the members that does not want to see UV discussion, and I do not subscribe to the UV Server. Pre-1981 discussion and postings only as outlined in the rules. Overall I think our members do a great job following the rules, and I realize sometimes we all make mistakes. Who appointed you =E2=9CServer Monitor=E2=9D Guru? I try my best to ignore the infrequent violations and understand they are simple mistakes. But I also think that if violations are not occasionally mentioned, members might think nobody cares if UV cards are discussed, or if non OBC members are thanked. I do care, and both are violations. In the past three days, we had a Ramblings post by a non OBC member, a Thanks post to a non OBC member, and then another Thanks message (UV at that) to another non OBC member. All I did was post a copy of the rules on the Thanks Server. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 20:17:51 -0500 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: "Samuel E. Taylor" I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. Sam Taylor On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't > subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered > with UV stuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball > Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is > separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only > vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like > vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it > separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken > put it. > That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. > Andy > Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Ed, > I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains > the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of > thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even > stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only > recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage > cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do > for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions > they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. > There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not > one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e > group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it > a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed > package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one > message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll > send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different > creative ways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the > lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It > happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, > autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it > bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the > time either. > Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about > that. TAYL, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. Sam Taylor ================= To: , Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 17:25:25 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: "Grant Rainsley" Seems to me that the procedure here should be to submit the topic to any OBCAC member and ask if it can be added to the monthly agenda, for discussionand a vote. (Tom, feel free to stomp on me if I am wrong.) It is obviouslya topic that has touched some nerves, but I think this is SOP. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:44 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum If this is the wrong forum, or not the proper way to go about this- I apologize in advance. I move that we make the thanks forum an OBC thanks forum, not just a vintage thanks forum. My reasonings for this thought are as follows. 1. OBC is a mentality, that should not be limited by card year. Yes, I knowthe club is based on pre 1980 collecting, and I totally love that- but whyshould thanks be deemed less important or in breach of protocol if post 1980 thanks are recorded on the same server? 2. I have my thanks server set to daily digest, as I am sure many of you do- but my UV server is set to send me individual messages. A modification tothe thanks server would allow me to read ALL thanks at once, instead of the UV ones popping up one at a time. 3. It would alleviate board clutter- if I receive a UV and a vintage card the same day, I could write one thank you message as opposed to two. 4. I do not want to see the want list or ramblings server become UV innundated as well, but I do not see why all thanks can't be recorded in one location- generosity should not be based on the year a card was printed, nor should the thanks in my opinion. Thanks for the consideration! Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 01:23:40 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: 1972 Topps baseball: it really is dead this time! From: Geordie Calvert So I thought I had killed this set off at the last Chicago National. I didn't get around to putting cards away for a couple of months, but when I did I found that I was missing SIXTEEN cards. Bitter disappointment set in - there's still a solid belief in my head that those 16 cards are somewhere in this house. Damned if I know where, though. Anyway, a Sportlots seller had the last three I needed and they arrived just moments ago. Filed 'em, and just to make sure there were no lurking gremlins I went through the box one more time. It's official: after almost 20 years in OBC, the Psychos are finally done. Thanks to all the current and former OBCers that helped this set along. Special thanks to Ken and Steve - they're a couple of the greatest bird-dogs this group has ever seen. They were both instrumental in tracking down what I thought were the last cards in Chicago. Not the first time those two have done that for me, and for MANY others as well. You guys are the greatest - I mean that. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 20:38:20 -0500 To: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Andy Huntoon I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those shouldbe discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server? That way they would just get two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: > I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball Cards." > HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. > I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. > Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. > Sam Taylor >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered withUV stuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. >> That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. >> Andy >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Ed, >>> I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remainsthe same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they gotsome fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. >>> There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am notone of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one messagefrom me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll send outonly one message to the thanks server and come up with different creative ways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either. >>> Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. TAYL, >>> Ken M >>> Sent from my not so smart phone. > -- > Sam Taylor ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 17:41:35 -0800 To: Andy Huntoon Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Rick Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick Sent from my iPad > On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those should be discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. > And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV serverlike they do with the regular Thanks server? That way they would just gettwo concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. > Thanks > Andy > Sent from my iPhone >> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: >> I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have somesets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball Cards." >> HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old"part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. >> I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists andDealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," whilewe have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidentssets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. >> Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped intoa concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. >> Sam Taylor >>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UV stuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cardsand I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separatefor that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage onthe Thanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate forthose reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. >>> That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. >>> Andy >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>>> Ed, >>>> I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line ofthinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. >>>> There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th egroup was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is ita PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different creativeways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either. >>>> Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. TAYL, >>>> Ken M >>>> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> -- >> Sam Taylor ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Andy Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 01:56:04 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:05:03 -0500 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Andy Huntoon Oh boy! Can of worms opened! =9C=9C=9C Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Rick wrote: > Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick > Sent from my iPad >> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those should be discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. >> And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server? That way they would just get two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. >> Thanks >> Andy >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: >>> I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old BaseballCards." >>> HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. >>> I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and weare inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. >>> Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. >>> Sam Taylor >>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UV stuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. >>>> That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. >>>> Andy >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>>>> Ed, >>>>> I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do forthe vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. >>>>> There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different creative ways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either. >>>>> Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. TAYL, >>>>> Ken M >>>>> Sent from my not so smart phone. >>> -- >>> Sam Taylor ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:14:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Ed Hutchinson My goal was never to upset anyone, and I hope I havent done so- I merely thought I would propose an idea that seemed to make sense to me- hopefully everyone is taking this discussion in that mind set On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Oh boy! Can of worms opened! =9C=9C=9C > Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Rick wrote: > Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick > Sent from my iPad > On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those > should be discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. > And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server > like they do with the regular Thanks server? That way they would just get > two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I > really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. > Thanks > Andy > Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: > I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some > sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, > and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball > Cards." > HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" > part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. > I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we > are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and > Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have > been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," > while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, > Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. > Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 > Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed > said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped > into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort > through. > Sam Taylor > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't >> subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered >> with UV stuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball >> Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is >> separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only >> vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like >> vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keepingit >> separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken >> put it. >> That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. >> Andy >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < >> OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> Ed, >> I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains >> the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of >> thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even >> stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only >> recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage >> cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do >> for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions >> they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. >> There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not >> one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e >> group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it >> a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed >> package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one >> message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll >> send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different >> creative ways to "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the >> lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It >> happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, >> autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it >> bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the >> time either. >> Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read >> about that. TAYL, >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. > -- > Sam Taylor ================= Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2016 21:17:24 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Ken M I'm so mad, I'm sending Ed all my 1978 DP's. Let him deal with 14 Pete Falcone's... Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Ed Hutchinson jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Mon, Nov 7, 2016 9:14 PMTo: Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum My goal was never to upset anyone, and I hope I havent done so- I merely thought I would propose an idea that seemed to make sense to me- hopefully everyone is taking this discussion in that mind set On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   Oh boy! Can of worms opened!  😜😜😜 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Rick wrote: Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those should be discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route.  And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server?  That way they would just get two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails.  I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option.  Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball Cards." HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part.  I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. Sam Taylor On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UV stuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it.  That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too.  Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:   Ed,   I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care.   There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:32:56 -0500 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Yahoo I am really upset too just not sure who I am mad at. =9B Jerry Barnes Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 21:17, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I'm so mad, I'm sending Ed all my 1978 DP's. Let him deal with 14 Pete Falcone's... > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: Ed Hutchinson jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Mon, Nov 7, 2016 9:14 PM > To: > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum > My goal was never to upset anyone, and I hope I havent done so- I merely thought I would propose an idea that seemed to make sense to me- hopefully everyone is taking this discussion in that mind set > Ed >> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Oh boy! Can of worms opened! =9C=9C=9C >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Rick wrote: >>> Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick >>> Sent from my iPad >>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those should be discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. >>>> And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server? That wa y they would justget two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. >>>> Thanks >>>> Andy >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: >>>>> I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball >>>>> H OWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. >>>>> I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. >>>>> Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Edsaid, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. >>>>> Sam Taylor >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>>>> There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UV stuff or w hatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separatefor those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. >>>>>> That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. >>>>>> Andy >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>>>>> Ed, >>>>>>> I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that lineof thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. Th ey just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. >>>>>>> There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I amnot one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Isit a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:47:24 -0500 To: Yahoo Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Andy Huntoon Jerry, if you find you're mad at Jake "the kid" Brewer make sure you post it on the UV server! (Sorry Jake, I couldn't resist). =9C Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Yahoo bucknutt2008@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I am really upset too just not sure who I am mad at. =9B > Jerry Barnes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Nov 7, 2016, at 21:17, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I'm so mad, I'm sending Ed all my 1978 DP's. Let him deal with 14 Pete Falcone's... >> Ken M >> Sent from my not so smart phone. >> ------ Original message------ >> From: Ed Hutchinson jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Date: Mon, Nov 7, 2016 9:14 PM >> To: >> Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; >> Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum >> My goal was never to upset anyone, and I hope I havent done so- I merelythought I would propose an idea that seemed to make sense to me- hopefullyeveryone is taking this discussion in that mind set >> Ed >>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Oh boy! Can of worms opened! =9C=9C=9C >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Rick wrote: >>>> Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com[OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>>> I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those should be discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. >>>>> And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server? That wa y they would just get two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Andy >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor wrote: >>>>>> I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball >>>>>> H OWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. >>>>>> I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, andwe are inundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlistsand Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have been called out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while we have had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. >>>>>> Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 Topps Presidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said, we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. >>>>>> Sam Taylor >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>>>>> There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don'tsubscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be botheredwith UV stuff or w hatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards and I always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate for that reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on the Thanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. >>>>>>> That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>>>>>> Ed, >>>>>>>> I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I evenstopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I onlyrecently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. Th ey just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. >>>>>>>> There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one of them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one ================= Date: 07 Nov 2016 18:51:53 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: b_betza@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:54:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Ed Hutchinson I'd better do some research on Pete Falcone... On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:51 PM, b_betza@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > The OBCAC can discuss any concerns or proposals. It would be helpful to > be specific in what you are requesting or if indeed you are requesting > anything. There have been mentions of UV postings on the thanks server, > non-baseball cards, non-sports cards, combining thanks servers ,the scourge > of '78 Pete Falcones :), and memory loss!! > The rules of conduct are posted on our website--that is where the rules > regarding the servers are posted. If there are changes being requested you > can post them publicly or in an e-mail to any OBCAC member. Discussion of > the topics is helpful-- but should stay respectful-- remember we are > talking about cardboard here...and in the case of a large part of my > collection bent, creased and trimmed cardboard at that!! > So can we please specify what is being proposed here for the OBCAC to > discuss? > 1) That postings to the thanks server be changed to allow thanks for UV > cards? Does that include elimination of the UV server? > 2) That all non-sports cards postings should not be permitted on the > thanks server? Or all servers? > 3) That all non-baseball cards postings should not be permitted on the > thanks server? Or all servers? > 4) That everyone send Ed '78 Pete Falcones? > Thanks!! > Brian Betza ================= To: Rick , Andy Huntoon Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 03:01:45 +0000 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: Taylor Schock And what about all those topps COINS, RC CANS, and Coke CAPS, among other things. Probably should have their own email as well since they aren't CARDS. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S=AE 6. -------- Original message -------- From: "Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 11/7/16 8:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Andy Huntoon Cc: "Samuel E. Taylor" , Ken M , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those shouldbe discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server? That way they would just get two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor > I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball Cards." HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we areinundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have beencalled out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while wehave had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 ToppsPresidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said,we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. Sam Taylor On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UVstuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards andI always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate forthat reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on theThanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains thesame, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recentlyadded newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truth is, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not oneof them, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different creative waysto "briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out. Imay have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either. Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. Sam Taylor ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 03:22:12 +0000 (UTC) To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum From: tvalacak@comcast.net In my eleven years of being in OBC, this issue has been brought up a few times. For me personally, it has never been an issue. Never bothered me. I have more uv going on now than at any time in my OBC membership. With that being said, when I type up my thanks emails, I have never found it to be problematic or a pain just to type "Thanks to ......... for some shiny". Then to go on the uv server and give more detail. The thanks server is there so that the cards being received can be acknowledged. The amount of detail given about the cards is up to the person typing the thanks. We have a seperate uv server. That server covers everything 81 and up - baseball football hockey hoops non sports. And the regular thanks server covers everything pre 80. It's pretty simple and it works. I think it's always good to have conversations and let people share some ideas. In this case, I don't feel any changes are necessary. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "Rick" , "Andy Huntoon" Cc: "Samuel E. Taylor" , "Ken" , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:01:45 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum And what about all those topps COINS, RC CANS, and Coke CAPS, among other things. Probably should have their own email as well since they aren't CARDS. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S=AE 6. -------- Original message -------- From: "Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 11/7/16 8:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Andy Huntoon Cc: "Samuel E. Taylor" , Ken M , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Proposal: Modification to the Thanks forum Then the next question is can we thank football?basketball? Hockey? Rick Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > wrote: I forgot about all the non-sports cards. Good point Sam. Maybe those shouldbe discussed by the OBCAC as well if this topic goes that route. And, just a question here, can folks get a daily digest for the UV server like they do with the regular Thanks server? That way they would just get two concise emails rather than one plus a bunch of individual UV emails. I really don't know how the daily digest works as I don't use that option. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Samuel E. Taylor < drsam9795@gmail.com > wrote: I'm not a UV collector anymore, I stopped in 2010, but I still have some sets in the mid-80's that I am working on. I agree with Ed in principle, and understand those who disagree because the group is called "Old Baseball Cards." HOWEVER, I feel that it is a bit hypocritical to stand firm on the "Old" part, but disregard the "Baseball Cards" part. I, and some others in the group, do NOT collect Non-Sport cards, and we areinundated with Thanks as well as Ramblings, Waiver wires, Wantlists and Dealer Scum, of the Non-Sport variety. It has bothered me that guys have beencalled out for listing Thanks, and adding a few "unmentionables," while wehave had long threads in Ramblings about Flags of the World, Presidents sets, Happy Days and Charlie's Angels. Now don't get me wrong, I have some Superhero cards, and even the '56 ToppsPresidents set, and loved the 1970's sit-com generation, but like Ed said,we get the Daily Digest and it'd be nice to have the Thanks lumped into a concise email, rather than having a bunch of single emails to sort through. Sam Taylor On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Andy Huntoon cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > wrote: There are a lot of OBC brothers who don't collect UV and they don't subscribe to the UV server on purpose. They just don't want to be bothered with UVstuff or whatever the reason might be. The group is Old Baseball Cards andI always looked at the UV side as sort of an "add on" that is separate forthat reason. So, I see keeping it separate and posting only vintage on theThanks server as respect for those members who only like vintage and for the original purpose of the group. I'm fine with keeping it separate for those reasons. Even if a second email is a slight PITA as Ken put it. That's my two cents. I'd love to hear others chime in too. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > wrote: I understand your reasoning. A card is a card and the intent remains the same, no matter it's age. But here's where I divert from that line of thinking. I stopped collecting non-Topps cards in the mid 80's. I even stopped collecting the main line Topps base set about a decade ago. I only recently added newer Topps sets to my list because they look like vintage cards. Truthis, I just don't have the same desire to collect them as I do for the vintage sets. They just don't do it for me. If someone mentions they got some fantastic UV card - I can't bring myself to care. There's a bunch of guys in the group that don't collect UV. I am not one ofthem, but I have a healthy respect for the fundamental values th e group was founded on and what has since become traditional protocol. Is it a PITA to type up two messages on my phone screen when I get a mixed package? Yeah, sometimes. But there's a lot of guys who will get only one message from me because they're not on the UV server. A lot of times I'll send out only one message to the thanks server and come up with different creative ways to"briefly describe" the UV portion of the mail. It's the lazy way out. I may have even bent or broken the rule on occasion. It happens. If I read about someone getting a serial numbered, game used, autographed refractor - I let it slide. I just don't care enough to let it bother me, but on the same token, I don't care to read about them all the time either. Well, that's more than I wanted to type - or anyone wanted to read about that. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. Sam Taylor ================= Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 05:02:33 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Nov 5 Wilmington MA show report From: Matthew Glidden Spent several hours of Saturday at Wilmington's Shriners auditorium show, still a fun one to walk every aisle of, knowing you'll have lots of vintage browsing options. Didn't break the bank on any big cards this time around, but was happy to start the Laughlin World Series sets, add some 1960 Leafs and 1960s Fleer, and check in with several OBCers and our friendly dealers. Thanks to OBC handshakes from BOB DONALDSON, JOEL FREEDMAN, and KEN MORGANTI for hits to my 1935 Goudey, 1960 Leaf, 1960-62 Fleer! (And maybe another set I forgot.) As Bob said in his report, he was lucky enough to pick up a $200 spending spree and smart enough to spend it on a prewar Cobb. :-) I missed meeting Chris Tripler (Friday only) for the first time, but good to know there are more guys in OBC NE to catch up with! ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 00:13:46 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wilmington show - Day 2 report From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Are you talking about these? (https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/new-york-rangers-hockey/1973%20Topps%20Stickers.jpg?attredirects0) 1973 Topps Stickers- 15 (w/ Canucks) 1973 Topps Team Stickers- 3 (Sabres w/ Islanders), 13 (Isles with Bruins) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 11/5/2016 10:01:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi all, Today I returned to the show looking to pad my dupes box with beat up cheap stuff. I did OK, but nothing earth shattering. I started off in the back of the show today - the opposite of yesterday. Got through about a row and a half when I got a text from Spike. "I'm in the back row. Are you here yet?" I met up with him and we went back to where I left off. We quickly found a table with stacks of $2 cards that had been pretty well picked through. I did find a few dollar cards and Spike located a few '75 minis at 3/$1. Around the corner from there, I saw another table with assorted bulk deals. I got a 300 ct. box of 70's hockey for 40 bucks. It yielded a few hits my sets (and a bunch of upgrades). It also had a partial set of story books (the stars were picked out ) and a partial set of glossies with a few stars mixed in. There was also a set of team stickers I couldn't find in my Charlton guide. There's a team logo on the top and a pennant logo underneath. Any idea on them? I'm thinking early 70's before the glossy sets, but after expansion (there were logos for Seals, Canucks and Sabres). At another table there were various boxes (ten cent, 50 cent, dollar, two dollars) with mostly UV, but there was a small box of vintage marked 5% of book. Now I'm interested! Picked out a 55 high number Hodges for around 8 bucks and he hands me another one from behind the table. It's a 10% box. I chose a Yaz RC for $20 from that. The final bargain box find was in the front row. Everything on the table - ten cents apiece. I searched through a bunch of monster boxes and pulled a couple dozen 1973 highs plus about 30 hi ghs from 1971 (about 2/3 of which were SP's). He also had half a row of 1977 Twinkie cards that I grabbed a couple of each - there was a lot of duplication. I ended up needing most of them and getting a dupe of each to trade too. I need to sit down and come up with a wantlist for these soon. Last stop of the day was Uncle Dick's, where I completed my 1971-72 hockey set with the last half dozen or so. I made a lot of progress on my hockey sets at this show. Of the 3 older sets left on my list, I don't need too many stars other that that Bobby Orr guy for two of them. The 67-68 set is short a few other stars too. Orr is expensive enough without the hometown markup he gets here, but I did end up buying one of the three I needed from Kevin Savage. Almost forgot to mention - I was talking with Mike McCann early in the day. He had this idea about doing an OBC s tyle show - the way it ought tobe: No autograph guests, so the people who are there are there for the show. Low table fees (mostly vintage dealers of course) and one booth for card submission - and we get them to be corporate sponsors. OBC gets money to use for our website costs. He was figuring out where might be a good place to have it, if guys from the group would attend, how big the hall would have to be, advertising, etc. I think he said he might get in touch with Sal about it later. Overall, I think the show was a success for dealers and collectors alike. It was well attended and there were plenty of deals to be had. If finished three sets (1970-71 Topps hockey, 1976 Wonder Bread FB and 1980 Superstar), although the latter two were both $5 complete set purchases. I also started a new set: 1971 hockey story books (I only need all the stars unfortunately). Now begins the long winter wait until my next show in July. At least I have plenty of time to start saving. Thanks for reading. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 01:29:55 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Secret Santa? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Hey boys, It's getting to that time of year again. Is anyone handling this? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 05:07:10 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wilmington show - Day 2 report From: Ken M Yes! Those are the ones. The hockey book I have listed other team sticker and poster insert sets for other years, but not those. I narrowed it down to the early 70's based on the teams I had. Thanks! Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Nov 8, 2016 12:13 AMTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wilmington show - Day 2 report Ken,  Are you talking about these?1973 Topps Stickers- 15 (w/ Canucks) 1973 Topps Team Stickers- 3 (Sabres w/ Islanders), 13 (Isles with Bruins) Sal Domino OBC - 1992  In a message dated 11/5/2016 10:01:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes:  Hi all,   Today I returned to the show looking to pad my dupes box with beat up cheap stuff. I did OK, but nothing earth shattering. I started off in the back of the show today - the opposite of yesterday. Got through about a row and a half when I got a text from Spike. "I'm in the back row. Are you here yet?" I met up with him and we went back to where I left off. We quickly found a table with stacks of $2 cards that had been pretty well picked through. I did find a few dollar cards and Spike located a few '75 minis at 3/$1.   Around the corner from there, I saw another table with assorted bulk deals. I got a 300 ct. box of 70's hockey for 40 bucks. It yielded a few hits to my sets (and a bunch of upgrades). It also had a partial set of story books (the stars were picked out ) and a partial set of glossies with a few stars mixed in. There was also a set of team stickers I couldn't find in my Charlton guide. There's a team logo on the top and a pennant logo underneath. Any idea on them? I'm thinking early 70's before the glossy sets, but after expansion (there were logos for Seals, Canucks and Sabres).    At another table there were various boxes (ten cent, 50 cent, dollar, two dollars) with mostly UV, but there was a small box of vintage marked 5% of book. Now I'm interested! Picked out a 55 high number Hodges for around 8 bucks and he hands me another one from behind the table. It's a 10% box. I chose a Yaz RC for $20 from that.    The final bargain box find was in the front row. Everything on the table - ten cents apiece. I searched through a bunch of monster boxes and pulled a couple dozen 1973 highs plus about 30 hi ghs from 1971 (about 2/3 of which were SP's). He also had half a row of 1977 Twinkie cards that I grabbed a couple of each - there was a lot of duplication. I ended up needing most of them and getting a dupe of each to trade too. I need to sit down and come up with a wantlist for these soon.   Last stop of the day was Uncle Dick's, where I completed my 1971-72 hockey set with the last half dozen or so. I made a lot of progress on my hockey sets at this show. Of the 3 older sets left on my list, I don't need too many stars other that that Bobby Orr guy for two of them. The 67-68 set is short a few other stars too. Orr is expensive enough without the hometown markup he gets here, but I did end up buying one of the three I needed from Kevin Savage.   Almost forgot to mention - I was talking with Mike McCann early in the day. He had this idea about doing an OBC s tyle show - the way it ought to be: No autograph guests, so the people who are there are there for the show. Low table fees (mostly vintage dealers of course) and one booth for card submission - and we get them to be corpo rate sponsors. OBC gets money to use for our website costs. He was figuring out where might be a good place to have it, if guys from the group would attend, how big the hall would have to be, advertising, etc. I think he said he might get in touch with Sal about it later.   Overall, I think the show was a success for dealers and collectors alike. It was well attended and there were plenty of deals to be had. If finished three sets (1970-71 Topps hockey, 1976 Wonder Bread FB and 1980 Superstar), although the latter two were both $5 complete set purchases. I also started a new set: 1971 hockey story books (I only need all the stars unfortunately). Now begins the long winter wait until my next show in July. At least I have plenty of time to start saving. Thanks for reading. TAYL, Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. Posted by: ChicoD1@aol.com The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 06:53:42 -0500 To: Ken M Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wilmington show - Day 2 report From: Joel Freedman Hi Ken Here is the checklist 1976 Topps Stickers 1 Atlanta Flames 2a Boston Bruins VAR 2b Boston Bruins VAR 3 Buffalo Sabres 4 Chicago Blackhawks 5 Colorado Rockies 6 Detroit Red Wings 7 Los Angeles Kings 8 Minnesota North Star 9a Montreal Canadiens VAR 9b Montreal Canadiens VAR 10a New York Islanders VAR 10b New York Islanders VAR 11a New York Rangers VAR 11b New York Rangers VAR 12a Philadelphia Flyers VAR 12b Philadelphia Flyers VAR 13 Pittsburgh Penguins 14 St. Louis Blues 15 Toronto Maple Leafs 16 Vancouver Canucks 17 Washington Capitals On Nov 8, 2016, at 5:07 AM, Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Yes! Those are the ones. The hockey book I have listed other team stickerand poster insert sets for other years, but not those. I narrowed it down to the early 70's based on the teams I had. Thanks! > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > ------ Original message------ > From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Date: Tue, Nov 8, 2016 12:13 AM > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Cc: > Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Wilmington show - Day 2 report > Ken, > Are you talking about these? > 1973 Topps Stickers- 15 (w/ Canucks) > 1973 Topps Team Stickers- 3 (Sabres w/ Islanders), 13 (Isles with Bruins) > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 11/5/2016 10:01:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Hi all, > Today I returned to the show looking to pad my dupes box with beat up cheap stuff. I did OK, but nothing earth shattering. I started off in the back of the show today - the opposite of yesterday. Got through about a row and a half when I got a text from Spike. "I'm in the back row. Are you here yet?" I met up with him and we went back to where I left of f. We quickly found a table with stacks of $2 cards that had been pretty well picked through. I did find a few dollar cards and Spike located a few '75 minis at 3/$1. > Around the corner from there, I saw another table with assorted bulk deals. I got a 300 ct. box of 70's hockey for 40 bucks. It yielded a few hitsto my sets (and a bunch of upgrades). It also had a partial set of story books (the stars were picked out ) and a partial set of glossies with a few stars mixed in. There was also a set of team stickers I couldn't find in myCharlton guide. There's a team logo on the top and a pennant logo underneath. Any idea on them? I'm thinking early 70's before the glossy sets, but after expansion (there were logos for Seals, Canucks and Sabres). > At another table there were various boxes (ten cent, 50 cent, dollar, two dollars) with mostly UV, but there was a small box of vintage marked 5%of book. Now I'm interested! Picked out a 55 high number Hodges for around8 bucks and he hands me another one from behind the table. It's a 10% box.I chose a Yaz RC for $20 from that. > The final bargain box find was in the front row. Everything on the table - ten cents apiece. I searched through a bunch of monster boxes and pulled a couple dozen 1973 highs plus about 30 hi ghs from 1971 (about 2/3 of which were SP's). He also had half a row of 1977 Twinkie cards that I grabbed a couple of each - there was a lot of duplication. I ended up needing most of them and getting a dupe of each to trade too. I need to sit down and come up with a wantlist for these soon. > Last stop of the day was Uncle Dick's, where I completed my 1971-72 hockey set with the last half dozen or so. I made a lot of progress on my hockey sets at this show. Of the 3 older sets left on my list, I don't need toomany stars other that that Bobby Orr guy for two of them. The 67-68 set isshort a few other stars too. Orr is expensive enough without the hometown markup he gets here, but I did end up buying one of the three I needed fromKevin > Almost forgot to mention - I was talking with Mike McCann early in the day. He had this idea about doing an OBC s tyle show - the way it ought to be: No autograph guests, so the people who are there are there for the show. Low table fees (mostly vintage dealers of course) and one booth for card submission - and we get them to be corporate sponsors. OBC gets money to use for our website costs. He was figuring out where might be a good place tohave it, if guys from the group would attend, how big the hall would have to be, advertising, etc. I think he said he might get in touch with Sal about it later. > Overall, I think the show was a success for dealers and collectors alike. It was well attended and there were plenty of deals to be had. If finished three sets (1970-71 Topps hockey, 1976 Wonder Bread FB and 1980 Superstar), although the latter two were both $5 complete set purchases. I also started a new set: 1971 hockey story books (I only need all the stars unfortunately). Now begins the long winter wait until my next show in July. At least I have plenty of time to start saving. Thanks for reading. TAYL, > Ken M > Sent from my not so smart phone. > Posted by: ChicoD1@aol.com > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although d iscussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 09:35:42 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC "shout-out" in Auction Catalog From: Jimi Thayer I've had the pleasure of talking to Al a few times at shows, and he also sets up at Strongsville. Super nice guy and he loves to talk cardboard, and it doesn't surprise me that he sent a shoutout to OBC. If you get the chance, stop by in Strongsville next April and check him out. He's usually fairly close to JD Heckathorn near the back. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 7, 2016, at 7:32 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Todays mail brought the =E2=9CLove of the Game=E2=9D (LOTG) Fall 2016 Premier Auction Catalog. > On the welcome page, LOTG owner Al Crisafulli uses the auction intro to =E2=9Cdirect people to some of the outstanding online communities and other hobbyists the can make the hobby more enjoyable=E2=9D. > Al introduces Net54, and then mentions the PSA and SGC websites. Then he says: > =E2=9CAnd I=E2=99d certainly encourage collectors to visit the OBC collecting community, which can be found online at oldbaseball.com OBC is agroup of true collectors, people who are often less concerned with investment and value, and more concerned with preserving the hobby and it=E2=99s > A nice shout out for our club! > I=E2=99ve had some luck with this auction, but if you are new to the auction world, don=E2=99t forget to figure in the buyers premium 23% extra (3% discounted if paid by check or money order). > www.LoveOfTheGameAuctions.com > Guru ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 10:17:34 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? From: Jake Brewer I don't know anything about this (1st year member) but I'm interested to hear the details! -Jake "The Kid" Brewer Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:29 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Hey boys, > It's getting to that time of year again. Is anyone handling this? > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 11:21:04 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCT , Subject: Big day for Gary Mandell running for office! From: Jimi Thayer Best of luck to our very own Gary Mandell today, who is running for Illinois State Representative! Hopefully all the hard work with your campaign pays off for you! Prayers sent your way. PS.....hopefully I'm not banned for posting something "political" :) Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 16:43:53 +0000 Subject: the OBC card set From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I was hanging out in my card room with a co-worker, and he happened to see the OBC card set that someone in the group had printed for us several yearsago. I was trying to remember who the point person was for that project, as my friend now wants to do the same thing at work. Any help would be appreciated! Be happy, John Scott Gray Sent from Outlook ================= Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 11:51:25 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] the OBC card set From: Ken M Keith Summers spearheaded that project. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Jo Meyer and John Gray meyergray@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Nov 8, 2016 11:43 AMTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] the OBC card set My friends,I was hanging out in my card room with a co-worker, and he happened to see the OBC card set that someone in the group had printed for us several years ago.  I was trying to remember who the point person was for that project, as my friend now wants to do the same thing at work.  Any help would be appreciated!Be happy,JSGJohn Scott Gray Sent from Outlook ================= Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:02:01 -0500 To: Jo Meyer and John Gray , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] the OBC card set From: JDahms ================= To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 17:06:24 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? From: Aaron Shirley Is it AC-coordinated? Or do we just pick the guy with the longest beard andmake him do it? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:35 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Hey boys, It's getting to that time of year again. Is anyone handling this? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:21:23 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? From: Ken M Bob Donaldson has run this in the past. Not sure if he's up for it this year or not. Otherwise, we could measure beards, check ear pointy-ness, assign it to someone named Nick or come up with another solution involving scissors and a hat. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Tue, Nov 8, 2016 12:06 PMTo: ChicoD1@aol.com;Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com;Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? Is it AC-coordinated? Or do we just pick the guy with the longest beard and make him do it?Aaron  Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:35 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote:  Hey boys, It's getting to that time of year again. Is anyone handling this? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "'Aaron Shirley'" , Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 12:17:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? From: "Bob Donaldson" I've done it every year since 2005. And I have a beard! Last year I sent the announcement out on November 10th and was planning on sending it out this week. Bob Donaldson From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 12:06 PM To: ChicoD1@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? Is it AC-coordinated? Or do we just pick the guy with the longest beard and make him do it? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:35 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: Hey boys, It's getting to that time of year again. Is anyone handling this? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 18:29:03 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC Crhistmas From: Bob Saxton Have there been any posts about OBC secret Santa? If so, I've missed them.Thanks!Bob ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Bob Saxton Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 18:37:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Crhistmas From: Mac Wubben I've also heard rumors about there being an election? The real point...I thought we'd agree that we are calling in the Secret Santo exchange? Looking forward to Bob's upcoming email. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Bob Saxton judgeguy08@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:29 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Crhistmas Have there been any posts about OBC secret Santa? If so, I've missed them. ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 14:30:00 -0600 To: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? From: OBC Nick P Didn't the name get changed last year to secret Stan? Or something like that? Nick Pelletier > On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Patience, young Jedi Warriors...I guarantee you it is under control. King Santa has been doing it for years... > From: "Aaron Shirley uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" > Cc: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" > Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 10:06 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Secret Santa? > Is it AC-coordinated? Or do we just pick the guy with the longest beard and make him do it? > Aaron > Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:35 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Hey boys, >> It's getting to that time of year again. Is anyone handling this? >> Sal Domino >> OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 16:32:43 -0500 Subject: OBC Xmas Exchange 2016 From: "Bob Donaldson" Well, it is finally that time of year. The OBC holiday card exchange. For those of you who are new, or have bad memories, the holiday exchange is when participants are randomly assigned the name of another participant to buy and mail a gift to the person they have been assigned to. On December 25th - Christmas for some, the second day of Hanukkah ( I believe), the winter solstice or Yule for pagans (not sure if we have any pagans) or just a fun day to get a gift. Rules (the fine print) 1. Gifts should be in the $10 range. The best gifts are not usually the most expensive. Try to get creative. 2. Envelopes should be clearly marked "do not open to Dec 25" or "Do not open till Xmas". 3. Open your present on the morning of the 25th 4. Report your present and who gave it to you on the ramblings server How it works. 1. REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS EMAIL (please do not send a new message as it may miss my email filter), put your name in the message, that will make it easier to track things. Or send an email to me with " OBC Xmas Exchange 2016" in the subject. Please include your name just to make sure I don't mix up your email address. Please make sure OBC Xmas Exchange 2016 is in the subject line! That makes it easy to track. 2. Wait a few days for a message from me telling you who your victim is based on a patented semi-randomization technique, 3. Buy something nice, wrap it, mark it "do not open" till the 25th, and send it out. NOTE: We are running a little late this year so hurry up and respond. I will try to get assignments out ASAP Merry Christmas! FINAL PLEA - Please make my life easier!!!! Reply to this email or make sure OBC Xmas Exchange 2016 is in the subject Give your FULL first AND last name in the message of your email Thanks and have fun!! Bob Donaldson ================= Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2016 18:32:04 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: Value and options for complete sets of 1936 Goudey? From: Matthew Glidden Hi all, in my experience, 1936G is one of those homely sets that don't drive big sales. 25 cards with relatively few stars and a so-so flipping game, I get it. But as I'm foolishly pursuing its 170+ card master set, I don't want to buy them one-by-one forever. There are a couple of high-priced complete versions on eBay, but there must be some other options out there. I'm going to reach out to OBC dealers and I watch a couple auction houses. Anyone have advice where else to expand my net? And am I crazy to think $300-350 is a fair low-grade price for a set of 25? ================= To: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:57:32 -0800 Subject: Canadian Issues..........a source! From: "Grant Rainsley" Hi guys- I have just dealt with a chap in Ontario (via Ebay) and was quite happy with the transactions....I have since dealt with him email to email and got some good stuff in a couple of private deals....his private prices and shipping were very VERY good. I mentioned what OBC was all about, and he would be happy to get wantlists from any of you that might be looking for Canadian stuff..either drop my name or mention you are in OBC...my own dealings involved Shirriff/Salada NHL coins, and early '60's Topps hockey....so if you are looking for OPC, Shirriff, Post Canadian, CFL, etc., it can't hurt to drop him your list.....hockey seems to be his forte, and he has stuff in lesser condition as well. Hi email is gordon.henderson2@sympatico.ca and his Evilbay handle is gordohenderson, perfect Feedback and over 3,000 transactions. Wish I had found him soonerL He must work for a living, so he might not get back to you instantly, but his communications have been first class... ================= Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 15:12:11 -0500 To: obc Ramblings Subject: '68 Topps Milton Bradley Question From: LAWRENCE TIPTON #66 Casey Cox (Yellow Team) is this a variation to the Topps set or are allthe =E2=9CYellow Team=E2=9D cards simply Milton Bradley cards? Thanks in advance. ================= Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2016 15:42:18 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Topps Milton Bradley Question From: Ken M Cox and Brinkman are both simply MB cards and not Topps variations. I think the Marichal checklist might be as well, but not certain on that. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Date: Wed, Nov 9, 2016 3:12 PMTo: obc Ramblings;Cc: Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Topps Milton Bradley Question ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Ken M Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 20:56:26 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Topps Milton Bradley Question From: Taylor Schock BOTH Topps and MB have 2 versions of this card, so 4 in total. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Ken M cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 3:42 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 Topps Milton Bradley Question Cox and Brinkman are both simply MB cards and not Topps variations. I thinkthe Marichal checklist might be as well, but not certain on that. Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone. ------ Original message------ From: LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytip ton@windstream.net Date: Wed, Nov 9, 2016 3:12 PM To: obc Ramblings; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] '68 Topps Milton Bradley Question ================= Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 16:16:59 -0500 To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Subject: Re: Value and options for complete sets of 1936 Goudey? From: Matthew Glidden Thanks guys, I can believe Greenberg as the tough one for this. Will keep an eye on the auctions and net54 and think about increasing my budget. :-) On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, wrote: > Seems to me that my only tough card in this set was Greenberg and > depending on what grade you get Hank in, you'll be setting the price for > the set. > I found a bunch together , but not a full set...they were cheap but I > think $300 might be lower than I have into my set...Time flies, I finished > that one quite a while back. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *obc ramblings > *Sent: *November 8, 2016 at 3:34 PM > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] Value and options for complete sets of 1936 > Goudey? > Hi all, in my experience, 1936G is one of those homely sets that don't > drive big sales. 25 cards with relatively few stars and a > so-so flipping game, I get it. But as I'm foolishly pursuing its 170+ > card master set, I don't want to buy them one-by-one forever. There are a > couple of high-priced complete versions on eBay, but there must be some > other options out there. I'm going to reach out to OBC dealers and I watch > a couple auction houses. Anyone have advice where else to expand my net? > And am I crazy to think $300-350 is a fair low-grade price for a set of 25? > Spike ================= To: "OCTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 21:30:17 +0000 Subject: Re: Sporting News issues available (1980s+) From: Taylor Schock I think I've already replied to those who responded. Just a reminder, if you have any interest at all in certain teams, players, or issues, let me know. The intent is to only go through these once and then off to the recycle bin. From: VCT on behalf of Taylor Schock Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 6:12 PM To: OCTraders@yahoogroups.com; vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com; OBC Ramblings; OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com; uvlist@yahoogroups.com Subject: [VCT] Sporting News issues available (1980s+) Sorry for the blast, but I wanted to check in with as many possible who might be interested before these go to recycle. I have about 7 large computer paper boxes full of The Sporting News from the 1980s on up. I'm not sure what year they start (yet), but I wasn't about to try and figure that out (yet). I do know there are some from the mid-80s, and may be earlier. The EASIEST thing for me to do would be to just dump these into the recyclebin, but the collector in me has a hard time doing that. So I thought I would check to see if anyone was interested in any of these. I will probably be looking through these myself anyway, but wanted to give a heads up so I could do all the checking at the same time. If you are a player or team collector and are looking for any covers with those, looking for special dates or issues, or whatever, let me know and I'll keep an eye out for them. ================= Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 08:45:12 -0500 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Let's Go Shrimp From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I can use a schedule only if the Shrimp is not too large to store. You mayinclude extras for the other FOOT guys. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Nov 2, 2016 6:02 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Let's Go Shrimp Correction it's Shrimp not Shrimps lol! Jacksonville Jumbo Shrimp Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 13:30:42 -0500 Subject: RE: Shriner's Show REport From: "Bob Donaldson" I neglected to mention on of my coolest moments at the show. When I went to the office to pick up my door prize, one of the autograph guests was just coming out. Former Red Sox Rico Petrocelli. I shouted to Rico "hey, you hit two home runs at my first Red Sox game" (true). Rico shouted back you should have gone to more games! From: Bob Donaldson [mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 10:25 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Shriner's Show REport This weekend was the Shriner's Show which is by far the best show in New England. My participation was limited as I had my daughter this weekend, however, I was able to visit on Friday and Saturday. On Friday I took the day off from work and was able to spend a couple of hours in the afternoon at the show. Met up with Joel Freedman and we both hit a table with many deals on $2 cards. Picked up quite a few some I needed but most will go to the dups box. Also hit Uncle Dicks table and made some hits to my early Bowman sets. Came back Saturday, around noon. Only had a few hours to spend. I immediately noticed Spike and walked up to him, only to hear my name called over the loudspeaker as the winner of a $200 shopping spree. I used that money to splurge on an E121 Ty Cobb. Met up for lunch with Spike, Ken, and Joel. My apologies for not staying very long, but I had to get back home. Hopefully stay longer next time and meet up with some more OBCers Show thanks to Joel for a pair of 55 Bowman hits and Spike for five hits to my National Chicle "Fine Pens". ================= To: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:49:17 -0500 Subject: ROBC Xmas Exchange 2016 From: "Bob Donaldson" Second Notice. I will try do assignments this weekend, so please follow instructions below if you want in! Well, it is finally that time of year. The OBC holiday card exchange. For those of you who are new, or have bad memories, the holiday exchange is when participants are randomly assigned the name of another participant to buy and mail a gift to the person they have been assigned to. On December 25th - Christmas for some, the second day of Hanukkah ( I believe), the winter solstice or Yule for pagans (not sure if we have any pagans) or just a fun day to get a gift. Rules (the fine print) 1. Gifts should be in the $10 range. The best gifts are not usually the most expensive. Try to get creative. 2. Envelopes should be clearly marked "do not open to Dec 25" or "Do not open till Xmas". 3. Open your present on the morning of the 25th 4. Report your present and who gave it to you on the ramblings server How it works. 1. REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS EMAIL (please do not send a new message as it may miss my email filter), put your name in the message, that will make it easier to track things. Or send an email to me with " OBC Xmas Exchange 2016" in the subject. Please include your name just to make sure I don't mix up your email address. Please make sure OBC Xmas Exchange 2016 is in the subject line! That makes it easy to track. 2. Wait a few days for a message from me telling you who your victim is based on a patented semi-randomization technique, 3. Buy something nice, wrap it, mark it "do not open" till the 25th, and send it out. NOTE: We are running a little late this year so hurry up and respond. I will try to get assignments out ASAP Merry Christmas! FINAL PLEA - Please make my life easier!!!! Reply to this email or make sure OBC Xmas Exchange 2016 is in the subject Give your FULL first AND last name in the message of your email Thanks and have fun!! Bob Donaldson ================= Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 14:11:13 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings , Subject: veterans day thanks From: John Dahms I know this isn't card related but I just wanted to send a very heartfelt thanks to all out veterans past and present. thank you so much for your service. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 18:37:16 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: who collects what page question From: John Dahms it was kindly pointed out to me that I needed to take my name off of a couple of sets and I cant remember how to do so. any help please John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 11 Nov 2016 14:24:46 -0800 To: Subject: Don't Remember Password From: mike.galbreath@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 17:29:10 -0500 To: mike.galbreath@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Don't Remember Password From: "Thomas W. Billing" I think I need mine as well after being hacked a couple weeks back and losing a lot. Tom Billing > On Nov 11, 2016, at 5:24 PM, mike.galbreath@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Had some computer problems and lost my OBC password. How can I get it back or acquire a new one? Not sure this is the right list to ask on, but it made sense to me. Thanks. > Mike Galbreath ================= Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2016 15:10:02 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Player Completion From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Good Afternoon, First, Happy Veteran's Day. Thank you to those who are serving and to those who have served. I was able to pick up a pair of Syracuse Chief Team Issue (79 & 80) Garth Iorg cards off of ebay recently. I never thought I would pick these up, let alone together. Erik Greenwood (USN 87-90) ================= Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 3:25:31 +0000 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Waiver Wire - 1966 and others From: Cleaning out the dupes box, and having trouble finding places for these. Please claim away, include your address please 1964 Topps Giants - 58 (Santo) Exhibits - Majeski Hegan (with signature) 1956 Topps - 2 (Giles) 305 1966 Topps - lots of Indians in here - 2 18 29 44 46 48 51 56 58 61 65 66 66 73 77 88 109 128 129 129 133 150 169 171 197 231 296 323 325 371 391 415 432 508 1969 Topps - 17 29 93 123 139 149 177 180 240 386 1970-71 - 99 ================= Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 12:56:44 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waivers From: Anthony Picked up a few to share 197o kellogs#72 1979 topps#6 leaders with Ryan 1974 leaders with Seaver and palmer 1967 topps football#1 Lmk and include address Anthony arbeeny Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:50:09 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Waivers updated From: Anthony Below is what is left Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Anthony wrote: > Hello > Picked up a few to share > 1965#504 > 1979 topps#6 leaders with Ryan > 1974 leaders with Seaver and palmer > Lmk and include address > Ant > Anthony arbeeny > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 13:51:52 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Waivers updated #2 From: Anthony Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Anthony wrote: > Hello > Below is what is left > Sent from my iPad >> On Nov 12, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Anthony wrote: >> Hello >> Picked up a few to share >> 1979 topps#6 leaders with Ryan >> 1974 leaders with Seaver and palmer >> Lmk and include address >> Ant >> Anthony arbeeny >> Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 12 Nov 2016 12:00:55 -0800 To: Subject: Re: who collects what page question From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 12 Nov 2016 12:45:56 -0800 To: Subject: Some waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2016 23:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , "" Subject: Non sports interruption From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 15:29:44 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Orca whales From: Rick First off the iPad takes horrible pictures or I don't know how to take pictures with it. Two different whale pods out front for the last couple hours.It's been extremely cool watching them jump out of the water and seeing the babies as well as some big boys. Over ten whales they are a lot closer that they look on the pictures. The salmon are coming in going up the rivers so this is one of the times of year you see them. This is the longest time they have hung out right in front of the house. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:38:30 +0000 Subject: Waiver wire offerings From: Taylor Schock I picked up some cards at an estate sale yesterday, and the cards below arewaiver wire offerings. Many have very light writing on the front (out, double, etc) with some being difficult to see. Others are just OBC style cards. The 1971s are pretty nice with their main problem being a small number written on the back in pink marker(?). If you can use any of these, let me know. PLEASE include your address with the response. Thanks! 1965 Topps - 201 206 209 213 278 1967 Topps - 221 362 1968 Topps - 10 35 42 54 56 69 135 176 199 208 214 216 231 238 246 248 251 254 258 273 1969 Topps - 227 246 267 270 290 317 342 354 407 1970 Topps - 194 1970 Topps booklets - 11 18 1971 Topps - 118 154 257 295 307 347 357 360 363 368 387 390 391 408 415 444 447 453 459 515 1973 Topps - 52 http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:23:22 -0500 Subject: OBC Xmas Exchange 2016 - Assignments made and handed out From: "Bob Donaldson" Everyone should have received their secret santa by now. If not just reply to this email. ================= Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 13:38:18 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Lunch with Mrs. Vern Ruhle From: biggies@aol.com I had sent out a few weeks ago that I had bumped into the widow of pitcher Vern Ruhle. Well we had lunch today. A very nice lady and I really enjoyed her fondness for Vern. I have attached pictures of us after lunch and a ball that she gave me, a commemorative done by a friend of Vern's after his death. She also gave me 2 signed cards that I will be sending out to the first 2 hand raisers from an earlier post. Bob Bannon ================= To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 20:31:42 -0500 Subject: a few set kills and an OPC observation... From: "Matt Yudt" Just got a nice little package from COMC. Been almost a year since I used my credit. Tsk tsk, Anyway, killed the 70 Story Booklets with a Gibson, killed my first kellogs set (79), and finished off the 78 OPC set with the last 9. Came close on a few other sets too (deckles, embossed, fleers). Anyway, what really made me write was that I noticed on the back of 1977 =93OPC 198=94 Expos coaches/instructeurs, the copyright is TOPPS! Printed in USA. Its clearly cut from the same cardboard as the rest of the OPC, and it is =BD French =96 so clearly not the Topps regular version. I scanned a few others from the set and this is the only one I see like this. I also checked the inventory in COMC and the two cards in there also are printed in US / Topps copyright. What=92s going on? Matt Yudt ================= To: "'Matt Yudt'" , Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 18:39:44 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] a few set kills and an OPC observation... From: "Grant Rainsley" Don=92t get me started on OPC=85..but the bottom line is that mine has thesame copyright=85=85=85..OPC has always been all over the map=85=85=85..except for 1930=92s, when they were fairly consistent=85=85.modern OPC began in 1965, but 1977 seems to be the year they went off the rails a bit, with all those Jays and Expos=85=85players not even included in the =9277 Topps set=85=85I havelong intended to figure out who got left out or added to those two sets, but never have=85=85=85perhaps a New Year=92s Resolution in the making=85.yeah,it all that far away. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Matt Yudt' yudts5@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 5:32 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] a few set kills and an OPC observation... Just got a nice little package from COMC. Been almost a year since I used my credit. Tsk tsk, Anyway, killed the 70 Story Booklets with a Gibson, killed my first kellogs set (79), and finished off the 78 OPC set with the last 9. Came close on a few other sets too (deckles, embossed, fleers). Anyway, what really made me write was that I noticed on the back of 1977 =93OPC 198=94 Expos coaches/instructeurs, the copyright is TOPPS! Printed in USA. Its clearly cut from the same cardboard as the rest of the OPC, and it is =BD French =96 so clearly not the Topps regular version. I scanned a few others from the set and this is the only one I see like this. I also checked the inventory in COMC and the two cards in there also are printed in US / Topps copyright. What=92s going on? Matt Yudt ================= Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 02:46:32 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Manhatten cold one, anybody? From: Geno Wagner Anybody want to grab a beer or grub tomorrow in Manhatten? I'll be in Midtown and pretty flexible after about 3 PM...let me know! Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:08:30 +0000 To: Grant Rainsley , Matt Yudt , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a few set kills and an OPC observation... From: Matthew Glidden Hi Matt and Grant, recommend this card blog's nearly exhaustive look at all the OPC vs. Topps variations (900+) if you're into those Canadian questions! http://ohmyopc.blogspot.com On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 9:40 PM 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Don=E2=99t get me started on OPC=E2=A6..but the bottom line is thatmine has the > same copyright=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..OPC has always been all over the map=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..except for the > 1930=E2=99s, when they were fairly consistent=E2=A6=E2=A6.modernOPC began in 1965, but > 1977 seems to be the year they went off the rails a bit, with all those > Jays and Expos=E2=A6=E2=A6players not even included in the =E2=9977 Topps set=E2=A6=E2=A6I have long > intended to figure out who got left out or added to those two sets, but > never have=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6perhaps a New Year=E2=99s Resolution in the making=E2=A6.yeah, it isn=E2=99t > all that far away. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *'Matt Yudt' > yudts5@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2016 5:32 PM > *To:* obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] a few set kills and an OPC observation... > Just got a nice little package from COMC. Been almost a year since I used > my credit. Tsk tsk, Anyway, killed the 70 Story Booklets with a Gibson, > killed my first kellogs set (79), and finished off the 78 OPC set with the > last 9. Came close on a few other sets too (deckles, embossed, fleers). > Anyway, what really made me write was that I noticed on the back of 1977 > =E2=9COPC 198=E2=9D Expos coaches/instructeurs, the copyright is TOPPS! Printed in > USA. Its clearly cut from the same cardboard as the rest of the OPC, and > it is =BD French =E2=93 so clearly not the Topps regular version. I scanned a few > others from the set and this is the only one I see like this. I also > checked the inventory in COMC and the two cards in there also are printed > in US / Topps copyright. What=E2=99s going on? > Cheers, > Matt Yudt ================= To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 08:25:51 -0500 Subject: Note on the Christmas Exchange From: "Bob Donaldson" First, everyone participating should make sure their wantlist is up to date. Now might even be a good time to start a new, and easy to hit, set A few people have mentioned how hard someone's list is to hit, remember a gift need not be cards. Get creative: book or other BB memorabilia, perhaps on their favorite player or team. Maybe cookies, although not to me I'm too fat :) ================= Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:07:54 -0500 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Note on the Christmas Exchange From: Steve I agree, things might be a bit easier if we knew each member's favorite teams, whether it's baseball, football, hockey or basketball. Possibly an updated bio would be helpful as well. Just my two cents worth of suggestions. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:25 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi > First, everyone participating should make sure their wantlist is up to date. Now might even be a good time to start a new, and easy to hit, set > A few people have mentioned how hard someone=E2=99s list is to hit, remember a gift need not be cards. Get creative: book or other BB memorabilia, perhaps on their favorite player or team. Maybe cookies, although not to me I=E2=99m too fat J > Enjoy! > Bob ================= To: "'Steve'" Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 10:09:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Note on the Christmas Exchange From: "Bob Donaldson" I lot of that information can be obtained from the OBC directory page, withmore detail under the OBC Bio section (for those with Bios) From: Steve [mailto:rangersteve7@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:08 AM To: Bob Donaldson Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Note on the Christmas Exchange I agree, things might be a bit easier if we knew each member's favorite teams, whether it's baseball, football, hockey or basketball. Possibly an updated bio would be helpful as well. Just my two cents worth of suggestions. Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:25 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: First, everyone participating should make sure their wantlist is up to date. Now might even be a good time to start a new, and easy to hit, set A few people have mentioned how hard someone=E2=99s list is to hit, remember a gift need not be cards. Get creative: book or other BB memorabilia,perhaps on their favorite player or team. Maybe cookies, although not to me I=E2=99m too fat :) ================= To: , Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:48:58 -0600 Subject: Winter Address - email notice From: "George Vrechek" On Monday, we are off to California again until mid-February. We'll be in San Francisco for two months and Redondo Beach one month. Getting mail has been cumbersome, but I want to stay involved in the RAOKs and will bring my duplicates along to try to hit OBC wantlists. The easiest approach, if you want to mail me something, is to continue to send any mail to our home address in Chicago, but let me know what you've sent via email. I can cross the cards off my wantlist right away, send thanks, and the cards will greet me when I return or my neighbor may forward them. It is not quite the same as the thrill of opening the mail, but I can George Vrechek ================= Date: 15 Nov 2016 19:32:47 -0800 To: Subject: One Card Waiver From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 05:01:22 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ebay/PayPal hack From: Anthony Hello all Weird thing happened yesterday. Received an email from a seller that I won $120 Tula bag with $11 shipping . Turns out it was a buy in now item and my eBay account is linked to PayPal so this item could be purchased if you had my eBay Id and password. Some how someone hacked my account and bought this. The interesting thing was it was going to be shipped to my house. Luck seller did not get to the post office when I reached out.on top of that my account had a large bid on a 1948 Fb card which I did not make and trying to cxl that winning bid. Also they have a $3k piece of jewelry in my cart along with recent searches of Toronto baseball stuff and players . Ebay and PayPal have not been able to assist as much yet since it came frommy account and was going to be mailed to my house and asked me to looking into people which may have access . The sad part is my iPad and iPhone had the auto log in so if for some reason someone had it and could find out my password for each device they could get into other things with saved passwords Anyone have any ideas on how they hacked my account? Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 11:48:55 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1964 Topps waivers From: Rob Bessette Hi guys, picked up a couple extra. FCFS. Please include address. 78, 112, 121, 189, 313, 349 ================= Date: 18 Nov 2016 08:07:32 -0800 To: Subject: Oddball Hank Aaron Waiver From: miglasser@aol.com ================= To: yahoogroups Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 16:34:08 +0000 Subject: 1974 Kelloggs Framed From: Shawn Smart Pretty cool item for you Kelloggs fans - http://longisland.craigslist.org/clt/5882083322.html [https://images.craigslist.org/00909_9vy09bZKjKG_600x450.jpg] 1974 set of Kellogg's baseball cards framed 1974 complete Kellogg's set framed in a beautiful gold frame with glass. Perfect for any man cave or office . Feel free to call me I'm available 24/7 Triple matted professionally framed !!! Buy and... ================= Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 20:33:58 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Major Milestone reached From: ChicoD1@aol.com Yesterday I put one of my favorite all time sets to bed. Thanks to a call made to Kit Young about an auction he had on ebay, I have received closure on my 1952 Bowman set. Mickey Mantle arrived safely and will temporarily reside in the binder with the rest of the master set until I figure out who should grade it. I am leaning toward SCG, unless anyone has any other thoughts on slabbing. Been a few years in the making, but it's now complete. It was only a few years ago I was neck and neck with Kent (we both needed about 92 cards) then he blew me out of the water. Best part is I got to actually TOUCH the card before I get it entombed. I also secured a 1951 Topps Dodgers team card (no date). Never thought I would own even one of these. Some of you guys have NO idea how well known this group is. We have made an impact on the hobby. Contacts and recognition got me the Mantle for less than the asking price. I had a great conversation with the guy I bought the Dodger card from. Lenny S (some of you know him - Richard Dingman, etc) works with the guy. He is thinking of opening a new Ebay with some lesser grade cards. Not sure how he is going to be at pricing, but he's a bright kid. He has asked me for feedback and we spoke about buyer's perception on getting a deal and other sales things. And to think, we started with about 25 guys just looking to trade Washington's. Just about anyone who is anything in the hobby knows OBC (good and bad). It's kinda cool to think that we are such a small segment of the baseball card population, but have touched literally THOUSANDS of people in some form. Pretty amazing, isn't it? It's been a pretty good week of cardboard, so all I can say is Merry Christmas to ME! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 22:27:26 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Major Milestone reached From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en By Request: Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 11/18/2016 8:34:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Yesterday I put one of my favorite all time sets to bed. Thanks to a call made to Kit Young about an auction he had on ebay, I have received closure on my 1952 Bowman set. Mickey Mantle arrived safely and will temporarily reside in the binder with the rest of the master set until I figure out who should grade it. I am leaning toward SCG, unless anyone has any other thoughts on slabbing. Been a few years in the making, but it's now complete. was only a few years ago I was neck and neck with Kent (we both needed about 92 cards) then he blew me out of the water. Best part is I got to actually TOUCH the card before I get it entombed. I also secured a 1951 Topps Dodgers team card (no date). Never thought I would own even one of these. Some of you guys have NO idea how well known this group is. We have made an impact on the hobby. Contacts and recognition got me the Mantle for less than the asking price. I had a great conversation with the guy I bought the Dodger card from. Lenny S (some of you know him - Richard Dingman, etc) works with the guy. He is thinking of opening a new Ebay with some lesser grade cards. Not sure how he is going to be at pricing, but he's a bright kid. He has asked me for feedback and we spoke about buyer's perception on getting a deal and other sales things. And to think, we started with about 25 guys just looking to trade Washington's. Just about anyone who is anything in the hobby knows OBC (good bad). It's kinda cool to think that we are such a small segment of the baseball card population, but have touched literally THOUSANDS of people insome form. Pretty amazing, isn't it? It's been a pretty good week of cardboard, so all I can say is Merry Christmas to ME! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:05:54 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: I lost an e-mail message!! From: Marshall West Sometime during this last week, SOMEONE wrote me and asked some questions about my wantlist (like why I don=E2=99t list my 1959, 1960, etc. sets onmy I CANNOT find that e-mail, and I can=E2=99t remember who sent it. Please let me know if it=E2=99s you who wrote to me. Thanks. Marshall West ================= Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 15:40:01 +0000 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Major Milestone reached From: Matthew Glidden Congrats Sal, that's a great step! I've cracked up non-OBC collectors when I tell them "we'd rather have a hole in our card than a hole in our set," and Mick's a perfect fit for the saying. :-) On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:27 PM ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > By Request: > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 11/18/2016 8:34:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > Yesterday I put one of my favorite all time sets to bed. Thanks to a call > made to Kit Young about an auction he had on ebay, I have received closure > on my 1952 Bowman set. Mickey Mantle arrived safely and will temporarily > reside in the binder with the rest of the master set until I figure out who > should grade it. I am leaning toward SCG, unless anyone has any other > thoughts on slabbing. Been a few years in the making, but it's now > complete. It was only a few years ago I was neck and neck with Kent (we > both needed about 92 cards) then he blew me out of the water. > Best part is I got to actually TOUCH the card before I get it entombed. I > also secured a 1951 Topps Dodgers team card (no date). Never thought I > would own even one of these. > Some of you guys have NO idea how well known this group is. We have made > an impact on the hobby. Contacts and recognition got me the Mantle for less > than the asking price. I had a great conversation with the guy I bought the > Dodger card from. Lenny S (some of you know him - Richard Dingman, etc) > works with the guy. He is thinking of opening a new Ebay with some lesser > grade cards. Not sure how he is going to be at pricing, but he's a bright > kid. He has asked me for feedback and we spoke about buyer's perception on > getting a deal and other sales things. > And to think, we started with about 25 guys just looking to trade > Washington's. Just about anyone who is anything in the hobby knows OBC > (good and bad). It's kinda cool to think that we are such a small segment > of the baseball card population, but have touched literally THOUSANDS of > people in some form. Pretty amazing, isn't it? > It's been a pretty good week of cardboard, so all I can say is Merry > Christmas to ME! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:13:36 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Thanksgiving weekend Moeller show From: Doug DeJong Curious which OBCers from the Cincy area might be going to this show? We will be visiting our daughter for the holiday and I hope to make it there Doug DeJong ================= Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:15:25 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vancouver show From: Rick Me and my wife drove up to Canada today and very glad I did. Been wanting to jump start my CFL/OPC football sets and found a guy that had a lot in low/mid grade. Picked out 200 different ones and stop there cause I was only half thru the show. Checked out the rest of the tables and picked up a few 70/71 basketball. then went back to one of the first tables that had a bunchof different OPC Nonsport sets but they were all gone so might of missed some good deals there. So went back to the table with the football and started picking thru the 71 & 72 sets when I realized he had some OPC baseball. I found 1-65,1-66,60-67's,15-69's off my new list and 7-69 deckles. I was out of money after getting around 350 cards and had to leave a stack of 69 OPC baseball dupes and all the 71 & 72 OPC football at the table. Killed me to walk away especially the baseball but was set on how much I wanted to spend and with the exchange rate I had an awesome day. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 19 Nov 2016 21:49:16 -0800 To: Subject: Sun-Times/Fanatics show report From: tvalacak@comcast.net ================= To: Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 10:12:38 -0600 Subject: Reminder for RAOKs and mail From: "George Vrechek" We leave tomorrow for 3 months away from home. If you send something to our home, my neighbor will hang onto it for me, but it would help if you email me as to what you've sent. I can thank you, update my wantlists, and try to return fire without the cardboard being forwarded - sort of like Topps' virtual collection idea. Thanks to all who I have received stuff from this past week. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 22:08:51 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Show report From: nick pelletier Just got home from the Chicago Sun Times card show. My wife and I have made that the traditional start to our Thanksgiving week festivities. She goes to the shopping mall while I go to the show. We also both eat our way through the city and its delicious food. I got to the show Firday afternoon just after the scheduled opening time. I knew Id be standing in a line for a little while. For those who have attended the show, you know a line is common. It runs from the lobby down into the skyway and moves relatively quickly. NOT THIS TIME!!! The lobby was a mob scene. Zero organization zero communication, just mass of humanity standing. I would later find out the mob was because the lines to purchase autograph tickets was moved to the front lobby. Good plan guys! Aparentlythe cubs did something recently that they havent done in some time. The mob was standard for the entire weekend. I finally noticed a line going towards the ball rooms. I stood in line. Eventually George Vrechek walked by me and we chatted. He told me I was in the line for people who already had tickets. I would have to go back into the blob. After talking to, and complaining to a Fanatics rep, the show promoter, i was able to get a ticket. George, who held my place in line was now about to enter the front door, he had me hop back in, and we made it in the show. Quickly we made it to Uncle Dicks table. I havent figured out how he does it, but I walk by his table and it costs me money while putting cards in my box. George and I searched and both found some goodies. We split up for a while to go about the hunt. I would also see Ron Perry and finally met Tom Billing. Due to my poor planning I owe Ron a cheeseburger and a beverage next time. Sorry Ron! I was able to see everything I needed and had to see friday. Saturday I was still going to go to the show because of a highlight coming. I decided to sleep in a bit as a head cold was setting in. I arrived at the show around noon. I walked by Uncle Dicks table, yes itcost me money, but I was able to catch up with TJ Valacak. I havent seen TJ since the Chicago 2013 national. It was a great meet up and chat. Having blown most of my budget on Friday I decided the day would be spent mostly BSing with people. I mostly succeeded, though not entirely. (ill pause for you to catch your breath at my admission of failure). I picked up a couple hits but nothing too major. Mid afternoon Mike Mackie was able to make the trip down. He and I chatted for a while. We also did some box digging. After the show Mike and I, with my wife went out for a great dinner and more conversation. It was agreat Card Highlights include:killing five Topps sets-four hockey and a footballdamage to 1949 and 1954 bowmana stack of $2 1957 basketball hits1955 bowman is down to three cards leftgetting very close to completing vintage OPC hockeyAnd my biggest highlight......taking my version of the Topps run to justover 99.50% complete. It was a good show. More fun was had in just seeing the OBCers and talking Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:36:45 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Why I'm quieter tham usual..... From: Glenn Codere Hey guys, I've been off the radar recently. Just wanted to explain why. Those of you who are friends with me on Facebook will already be aware of this, but in away I find it a bit cathartic to open up a bit. A week past Friday, I was on a short break from work at about 11am and wandered round to some shops across from the train station, just a block from my office. On getting there, I was aware of a large police presence and looked up towards the hotel directly across the street, no more than 25-30 yards away. I was met with the sight of a man hanging upside down from one of the upper floors with someone inside holding him by the ankle desperately trying to pull him back in. In the next 10 seconds, the man shook himself loose from the grip, plunged headfirst into the ledge a few stories below witha sickening crack which spun his body round violently, then to the ground in the street cafe directly below. It took me several minutes to process what I had just seen, but once I did it really hit me hard. The sounds and vision are still with me. After an extremely difficult weekend, my wife convinced me to go to my doctor on Monday, and he diagnosed a form of post-traumatic stress. I've been off work all last week, and he has just signed me of for another 2 weeks. I'm amazed that an incident like this has affected me so profoundly. Every time I see anything on TV that remotely reminds me of it, the thoughts return. My family and friends have rallied round to help, but this is something that I just have to work my way through. I had another visit with my doctor this morning, and he suggested that I should try to do whatever I have to to resume normality and to take advantage of services that are available at work (remember, I work for the National Health Service). I'm going to be doing that. I'm doing what I can to keep myself occupied and distracted - I even posted a few envelopes out last week! - but I know I need to confront this eventually. Perhaps the sooner the better but this is a totally new and difficult experience for me. I'm kind of flying blind here. I'm meeting my manager tomorrow morning for coffee and the chance to work out the best strategy for getting back to work in a manner that will be best for me. I know that so many people have seen and experienced much worse things thanthis in their lives. I'm kind of embarrassed by my reaction. I'm past the "acute" stage (I was an absolute wreck for several days after) but now I'm finding it difficult to get out of a real funk that I've descended into. Opening up helps a bit, so I hope you don't mind me sharing this with you. GlennGlasgow, ScotlandGlenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: UVlist , OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 05:42:08 +0000 Subject: Donruss December? From: Aaron Shirley Hey guys, hare-brained Aaron here. Always trying to come up with new ideas.But one of my favorite things about OBC is the spirit of teamwork. I mean I just absolutely love it when we team up and everyone pushes in the same direction to accomplish something. What do you think about another coordinated set building project? You know,where everyone posts their wants within a certain niche (which changes every so often), and then we share what dupes we can, and we try to keep up with each other by posting updated lists or using some sort of shared online space. I mean, we all totally gotta get our Holiday Hack packages done first, but THEN... know what I mean? Well, here's what I'm thinking: DONRUSS DECEMBER! The last thing I want is for another project to overwhelm people who are already doing all they can (And again, make sure you get your Holiday Hack stuff done and mailed first - PRIORITIES haha). So then maybe we could just do it a few times a year, and go next with something like FLEER FEBRUARY... or... I think half the fun could be coming up with the NAME for what we do next! FOOTBALL FEBRUARY, or FOOD ISSUE FEBRUARY MAINSTREAM MARCH or MULTISPORT MARCH ARMOUR COIN APRIL (the best I could do) JELLO JUNE, JOHNSTON'S JULY SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER, SHORT LIST SEPTEMBER ODDBALL OCTOBER, O-PEE-CHEE OCTOBER NON-SPORT NOVEMBER Certainly one of those, or something similar, would be right up your alley.Or then again, maybe I've had too much coffee for 11pm. Anyway, I thought Donruss would be a fun niche because they did a good number of kooky vintage non-sport sets all the way back to the early 60's (why I posted this on the RAMBLINGS SERVER). Then I know at least a few guys areworking on a UV-era Donruss set or three (why I posted this on the UV SERVER). I won't tell you whose list I was just looking at, because I'm their OBC Secret Santa / Holiday Hack... but they're not a noob and they have 80'sDonruss on their wantlist. And hey, I totally do too. I mean, this is stuff I grew up on! And it's not like the cards are rare. Wouldn't it be cool if we could finish like 50 sets? Anyway, what do you think? Let's talk about it! And meanwhile, dust off your Donruss dupes! I'd love to do any coordinating / list editing / whatever to make it easiest for everyone, but you just gotta let me know you'd like to be a part. Okay, I've said enough for tonight. Was driving for several hours today, and this is the kind of stuff I think about. I keep trying to polish this proposal up more and more, and eventually you just gotta hit SEND. Thanks OBC Aaron Shirley ================= Date: 22 Nov 2016 05:36:03 -0800 To: Subject: Goodies from an auction win From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 09:25:32 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1964 Giants From: Rob Bessette Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some real beauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One of his best in my opinion. I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? Just seems that they're a little undervalued. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 09:48:38 -0500 To: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants From: "Thomas W. Billing" Supply and demand. I did not notice them in 1964 when buying the regular issue. I eventually ( not long ago) bought a set cheaply Tom Billing Sent from my iPad On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:25 AM, "Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some real beauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One of his best in my opinion. > I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? > Just seems that they're a little undervalued. > Rob ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:15:22 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: Matthew Glidden Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. If *you* were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so not as interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. *1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler.* A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the rest of us nuts? :-) ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:21:00 -0500 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: ShoelessWes For me, that's quite easy: The 1971 Topps #265 of Jim Northrup, tigers..... The story of how that came to be is a more complex matter. I am trying to put together a set of 265 hits, with or without the blob variation, which i understand doesn't really carry a premium. After the set, i want to collectevery single card, not counting ones in OBC sets, and then destroy them. Wes Shepard > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. > If you were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probablynot possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, butthere must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach.(For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) > I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so not as interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. > 1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler. A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. > Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the rest of us nuts? :-) > Spike ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Rob Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:25:11 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants From: Taylor Schock (Partly from memory).... There was a hoard of these found years back, with most (though not all) players found in quantity. That is why there are so many nice condition ones out there. Also, the complete sheet found (elsewhere) would indicate that not all that are SPs are truly SPs. However some of those designated as SPs might be due to those cards not being found in the hoard (or not nearly to the extent of the others). I think there are 10 designated, but from the sheet, only (about) 1/2 of those were truly SPs (in this case, SINGLE print and not SHORT print). I believe the Mantle was the only one that was triple printed. http://aug14.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-bin/showitem.pl?itemid71019 That said, It is also possible that the uncut sheet above was only a half-sheet, considering that Topps produced other 'double' sheets in 1964 (prior to cut down). http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2005/spring/399/two-1964-topps-double-uncut-sheets-including-mantle/ From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:25 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some real beauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One of his best in my opinion. I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? Just seems that they're a little undervalued. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:26:46 -0500 To: "Thomas W. Billing" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants From: Doug I bought my set complete back in the 80s or early 90s from a guy that had complete sets stacked up on his table. Got the impression someone had found a major hoard. We was giving you a second set for half price too, so my nephew picked one up. Not sure what the story is, but agree they are great looking cards and you can get the, very reasonably. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:48 AM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Supply and demand. I did not notice them in 1964 when buying the regular issue. I eventually ( not long ago) bought a set cheaply > Tom Billing > Sent from my iPad >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:25 AM, "Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some real beauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One ofhis best in my opinion. >> I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? >> Just seems that they're a little undervalued. >> Rob ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:16 -0500 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: Joel Freedman [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage > collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, > like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. > If *you* were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's > probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee > Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is > within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) > I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both > Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so > not as interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. > *1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler.* A HOFer that'll > never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's > license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these > at shows. > Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the > rest of us nuts? :-) > Spike ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:28:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants From: mark_macrae@comcast.net The Reader's Digest version... Distribution was very limited in 1964, and the product for the most part was a failure. Around 1969, a candy wholesalerin Southern California ended up with a small warehouse full of them. Therewere appx 8 million cards in the group. They were sold to Will Davis for atotal of $100. Will sold them in bulk to many others and by 1976 most wereout of his hands. I still remember the Anaheim show in '76 where the Lavinboys were manning two eight foot tables featuring nothing but the completesets stacked about a foot high off the tables. On Saturday the big sign read "Complete sets 60 cents each", and by Sunday afternoon very few had soldso the price was reduced to 50 cents a set. The visual is seared in my mind especially when you see the SMR of a PSA 10 Mantle listed at $8500 !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "obc-ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 6:25:32 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some real beauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One of his best in my opinion. I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? Just seems that they're a little undervalued. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:38:34 -0500 To: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants From: "Thomas W. Billing" This is very likely and reminds me of the story of the 1951 Topps red backswhere a hoard was found in Tennessee or somewhere and dropped the values of these. The blue backs were not found and thus are high priced. Tom Billing > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I bought my set complete back in the 80s or early 90s from a guy that hadcomplete sets stacked up on his table. Got the impression someone had found a major hoard. We was giving you a second set for half price too, so my nephew picked one up. > Not sure what the story is, but agree they are great looking cards and you can get the, very reasonably. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:48 AM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: >> Supply and demand. I did not notice them in 1964 when buying the regularissue. I eventually ( not long ago) bought a set cheaply >> Tom Billing >> Sent from my iPad >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:25 AM, "Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > wrote: >>> Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some realbeauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One of his best in my opinion. >>> I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? >>> Just seems that they're a little undervalued. >>> Rob ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:45:41 +0000 Subject: arrival From: Mac Wubben Special arrival on sunday...eleanor sarah wubben. Mother and baby are doing well. ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 07:51:46 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: "Grant Rainsley" Okay Spike, you got the wheels turning in what is left of my brain=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.and those wheels need some grease=E2=A6..badly! My choice: 1965 OPC Bert Campaneris RC. My reasoning is very sound I think: -I always liked the hint of a grin on his face on that card. I always figured he was thinking =E2=9CHey, this is friggin=E2=99 COOL, I=E2=99mgonna be on a baseball card like all my heroes!=E2=9D (Except he was thinking in Spanish, and I don=E2=99t habla too goodL). That grin is going to appeal to ALL collectors. -It=E2=99s OPC, so it shouldn=E2=99t be as hard as the Topps to get the corner on THAT market, would only need about 500 of the suckers. AND itis an OPC high number, making it even more scarce! -Bert was a very good and entertaining ballplayer, so he is bound to have afollowing by cardboard collectors. One day they will be pleading with me to part with one just so they can complete their Campy Collection. I can seethat card eventually being worth THOUSANDS=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6.. thousands of what I am just not sure yet. I=E2=99ll report backin about 25 years after my quest. Spike- Thanks for the inspiration for kick-starting me on my way to my NEXT =E2=9CShrewd Rainsley Investment.=E2=9D From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 7:15 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. If you were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so notas interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. 1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler. A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the restof us nuts? :-) ================= To: ShoelessWes Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:53:54 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage From: JAY TYSVER ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:00:21 -0800 To: Matthew Glidden , obc ramblings Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage From: wite3 ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:30:21 -0500 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] arrival [1 Attachment] From: Steve Congratulations Mac, another reason to be thankful for. Happy Thanksgiving everyone Steve Sankner Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Mac Wubben included below] > Special arrival on sunday...eleanor sarah wubben. > Mother and baby are doing well. > Mac ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 11:43:58 -0500 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] arrival [1 Attachment] From: ShoelessWes Whoopie!!! What a great Thanksgiving gift! And a wonderful name, too. Congrats Wes Shepard > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Mac Wubben included below] > Special arrival on sunday...eleanor sarah wubben. > Mother and baby are doing well. > Mac ================= To: obc ramblings , Matthew Glidden Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:25:16 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage From: Mac Wubben In the prewar arena, it's a lot easier. Just last week i discovered i had a card that was previously unconfirmed...Lenox backed t206 donlin. Also just picked up a 1 of 2 plow boy cabinet. At one time i had 4 of the 10 graded copies of the t216 bresnahan. As Grant mentioned...in post war, opc is the way to go. Lots of cards with low populations to drive you or your victims crazy. My 1000 87t pucketts are less than 1/10 of a percent. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:15:22 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. If you were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so notas interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. 1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler. A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the restof us nuts? :-) ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:12:00 -0500 To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage From: Mike Glasser Interesting question. I don't currently hoard any particular card but if I did it would be one ofthe 72 IA cards, likely an Oriole. My other favorite would be the 1971 World Series cards. I do love those action shots with the black borders. Mike Glasser The Goddard School in Sparks, MD 14630 York Road Sparks, MD 21152 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc ramblings Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2016 10:15 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. If you were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so notas interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. 1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler. A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the restof us nuts? :-) ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 00:05:25 +0000 To: Dan Angland , OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants From: Joel Freedman I need 13! Anybody sending? 03 Koufax SP 11 Clemente 15 Gentile 19 Groat 29 Friend SP 34 Maloney 37 Marichal 44 Oliva 45 Causey SP 47 Cisco SP 49 Aaron 51 Mays SP 60 Skowrwon SP On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 5:29 PM Dan Angland duph182@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > any hoarders want to liquidate? I could use some of these alleged mass > produced 64 Giants. :-) > Thanks, Dan Angland > 55 South Newtown Ave. > Selden, NY 11784 > Have an OBC night! > 1964 Topps Baseball Giants needs > 3, 7, 10, 18, 19, 25, 29, 30, 31, 34, 37, 42, 45, 47, 49, 51, 56, 60 > ------------------------------ > *From:* "'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *To:* Doug > *Cc:* Rob Bessette ; " > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:38 AM > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Giants > This is very likely and reminds me of the story of the 1951 Topps red > backs where a hoard was found in Tennessee or somewhere and dropped the > values of these. The blue backs were not found and thus are high priced. > Tom Billing > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I bought my set complete back in the 80s or early 90s from a guy that had > complete sets stacked up on his table. Got the impression someone had > found a major hoard. We was giving you a second set for half price too, so > my nephew picked one up. > Not sure what the story is, but agree they are great looking cards and you > can get the, very reasonably. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:48 AM, 'Thomas W. Billing' billingtw@sbcglobal.net [OBC-Ramblings] > wrote: > Supply and demand. I did not notice them in 1964 when buying the regular > issue. I eventually ( not long ago) bought a set cheaply > Tom Billing > Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:25 AM, "Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > wrote: > Anyone know why these cards are generally so cheap? There are some real > beauties and some huge names. The Koufax is an amazing looking card. One of > his best in my opinion. > I believe these were distributed in packs, correct? > Just seems that they're a little undervalued. > Rob ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:44:33 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1952 berk Ross variation? From: Anthony Hello all, I happen to get some hits to the server set I have started and noticed thatI have some with signatures and some of the same cards without. Any info on Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "Mac Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 00:50:07 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] arrival [1 Attachment] From: Taylor Schock Congratulations on the great news! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:45 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] arrival [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Mac Wubben included below] Special arrival on sunday...eleanor sarah wubben. Mother and baby are doing well. ================= Date: 22 Nov 2016 17:16:02 -0800 To: Subject: Meet up From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 20:35:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: "Bob Donaldson" Whenever I go to a show, and I see a 1970 Yaz for cheap, I pick it up. Took me forever to find one as a kid. I always thought that OBC as a group could work together to corner the market on a card. Everyone could hit a local card show one weekend and pick upthe agreed upon card (1973 Derrell Thomas?), we=E2=99d have 100s (1000s?) before anyone noticed From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:15 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. If you were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so notas interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. 1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler. A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the restof us nuts? :-) ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 17:55:05 -0800 To: Mike Glasser Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Great question Mike. I would have to go with the 1978 Topps / OPC / Burger King Reggie Jackson. I love that swing. Interestingly, the e120 (among other issues) Zack Wheat has the same pose. Erik Greenwood On Nov 22, 2016 3:15 PM, "Mike Glasser miglasser@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Whenever I go to a show, and I see a 1970 Yaz for cheap, I pick it up. > Took me forever to find one as a kid. > I always thought that OBC as a group could work together to corner the > market on a card. Everyone could hit a local card show one weekend and > pick up the agreed upon card (1973 Derrell Thomas?), we=E2=99d have 100s > (1000s?) before anyone noticed > Bob > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@ > yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:15 AM > *To:* obc ramblings > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage > card? > Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage > collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, > like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. > If *you* were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's > probably not possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee > Reese, but there must be others out there where buying a few hundred is > within reach. (For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) > I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both > Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so > not as interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. > *1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler.* A HOFer that'll > never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's > license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these > at shows. > Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the > rest of us nuts? :-) > Spike ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 20:56:37 -0500 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? From: Jimi Thayer I like the idea of "Duplication December"! :) I've been thinking about this project, too, but I'm struggling to come up with an actual card yet, but I will let you know when I do. I'm thinking something that's less than $5 BV per card, but we will see. I'll keep you posted! Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2016, at 8:53 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > I am after 1971 Topps Jim Kiick as most of you know. > I have maybe 40 or so, going to take a lot more to corner the market !! (A hint for help for my hunt) > Along the way to collecting 18 sets of these 1971 FB, I have acquired an awful quantity of card #2 Jim Butler but he still appears in nearly every eBay > That reminds me to look for more of these FB cards, I didn't get any lastweek > Who is keeping score on these multiple scores? Aaron? Part of DuplicationDecember > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: 'Matthew Glidden', 'obc ramblings' > Sent: November 22, 2016 at 5:37 PM > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintagecard? > Whenever I go to a show, and I see a 1970 Yaz for cheap, I pick it up. Took me forever to find one as a kid. > I always thought that OBC as a group could work together to corner the market on a card. Everyone could hit a local card show one weekend and pick up the agreed upon card (1973 Derrell Thomas?), we=E2=99d have 100s (1000s?) before anyone noticed > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:15 AM > To: obc ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage card? > Fun Q today, since we've discussed several times the handful of vintage collectors out there have bought up significant supply of a single card, like Curt Flood or some of the 1960s high numbers. > If you were to buy up a single card, what would you choose? It's probablynot possible to amass a classic like the 1953 Bowman of Pee Wee Reese, butthere must be others out there where buying a few hundred is within reach.(For example, Bob Reed and his 1971 Bob Reeds.) > I first thought of 1969 or 1977 Diego Segui, because he pitched for both Seattle expansion clubs, but they're both crappy Topps airbrush cards, so not as interesting. I went with a #5 reliably findable for <$5. > 1970 Rold Gold / 1972 Kellogg's ATG #5, George Sisler. A HOFer that'll never get too expensive, this card is its own cousin, thanks to XOGRAPH's license to both Rold Gold and Kellogg's. Going to watch for more of these at shows. > Anyone else have a favorite card you could quietly buy up to drive the rest of us nuts? :-) > Spike ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 02:15:03 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Survey: cornering the market on your vintage From: Aaron Shirley I might go with 1969 Topps 289 Bart Shirley. It's his only widely availablesolo card (the other two were shared rookie cards). Got one today, would have bought more if there were any. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:23:53 -0800 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] arrival [1 Attachment] From: Stamper Congratulations!! Glad to hear everyone is doing well. John Stamper On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:45 AM, "Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Mac Wubben included below] > Special arrival on sunday...eleanor sarah wubben. > Mother and baby are doing well. > Mac ================= Date: 22 Nov 2016 19:17:27 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Donruss December? From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:30:53 +0000 (UTC) To: "uthminsta@hotmail.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Donruss December? From: Donnie Barnett I'm game Aaron... let me know what set and I will check and see what i can dig Donnie Barnett Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 10:17 PM, uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] This email never showed up in my inbox. So I'm sending it again. Anyone else have any input? Hey guys, hare-brained Aaron here. Always trying to come up with new ideas.But one of myfavorite things about OBC is the spirit of teamwork. I meanI just absolutely love it when we team up and everyone pushes in the same direction to accomplish something. What do you think about another coordinated set building project? You know,where everyone posts their wants within a certain niche (which changes every so often), and then we share what dupes we can, and we try to keep up with each other by postingupdated lists or using some sort ofshared online space. I mean, we all totally gotta get our Holiday Hack packages done first, but THEN... know what I mean? Well, here's what I'm thinking: DONRUSS DECEMBER! The last thing I want is for another project to overwhelm people who are already doing all they can (And again, make sure you get your Holiday Hack stuff done and mailed first - PRIORITIES haha).So then maybe we could just doit a few times a year, and go next with something like FLEER FEBRUARY... or...I think half the fun could be coming up with the NAME for what we do next! FOOTBALL FEBRUARY, or FOOD ISSUE FEBRUARY MAINSTREAM MARCH or MULTISPORT MARCH ARMOUR COIN APRIL (the best I could do) JELLO JUNE, JOHNSTON'S JULY SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER, SHORT LIST SEPTEMBER ODDBALL OCTOBER, O-PEE-CHEE OCTOBER NON-SPORT NOVEMBER Certainly one of those, or something similar, would be right up your alley.Or then again, maybe I've had too much coffee for 11pm. Anyway, I thought Donruss would be a fun niche because they did a good number of kooky vintage non-sport sets all the way back to the early 60's (why I posted this on the RAMBLINGS SERVER). Then I know at least a few guys areworking on a UV-era Donrussset or three (why I posted this on the UV SERVER). I won't tell you whose list I was just looking at, because I'm their OBC Secret Santa / Holiday Hack... but they're not a noob and they have 80's Donruss on their wantlist. And hey, I totally do too. I mean,this is stuff I grew up on! And it's not like the cards are rare. Wouldn't it be cool if we could finish like 50 sets? Anyway, what do you think? Let's talk about it! And meanwhile, dust off your Donruss dupes! I'd love to do any coordinating / list editing / whatever to make it easiest for everyone, but you just gotta let me know you'd like to be a part. Okay, I've said enough for tonight. Was driving for several hours today, and this is the kind of stuff I think about. I keep trying to polish this proposal up more and more, and eventually you just gotta hit SEND. Thanks OBC Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 01:05:17 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] arrival [1 Attachment] From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Whewwwww! She looks like mom! WTG Mac! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 11/22/2016 10:46:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://0ef42d58/default.html#TopText) from Mac Wubben included below] Special arrival on sunday...eleanor sarah wubben. Mother and baby are doing well. ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 05:57:54 -0500 To: "mountaineer1999@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Donruss December? From: Joel Freedman im in. On Nov 22, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Donnie Barnett Mountaineer1999@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm game Aaron... let me know what set and I will check and see what i can dig up > Donnie Barnett > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > This email never showed up in my inbox. So I'm sending it again. > Anyone else have any input? > Hey guys, hare-brained Aaron here. Always trying to come up with new ideas. But one of my favorite things about OBC is the spirit of teamwork. I mean I just absolutely love it when we team up and everyone pushes in the samedirection to accomplish something. > What do you think about another coordinated set building project? You know, where everyone posts their wants within a certain niche (which changes every so often), and then we share what dupes we can, and we try to keep up with each other by posting updated lists or using some sort of shared online space. I mean, we all totally gotta get our Holiday Hack packages done first, but THEN... know what I mean? > Well, here's what I'm thinking: > DONRUSS DECEMBER! > The last thing I want is for another project to overwhelm people who are already doing all they can (And again, make sure you get your Holiday Hack stuff done and mailed first - PRIORITIES haha). So then maybe we could justdo it a few times a year, and go next with something like FLEER FEBRUARY... or... I think half the fun could be coming up with the NAME for what we do > FOOTBALL FEBRUARY, or FOOD ISSUE FEBRUARY > MAINSTREAM MARCH or MULTISPORT MARCH > ARMOUR COIN APRIL (the best I could do) > JELLO JUNE, JOHNSTON'S JULY > SEVENTIES SEPTEMBER, SHORT LIST SEPTEMBER > ODDBALL OCTOBER, O-PEE-CHEE OCTOBER > NON-SPORT NOVEMBER > Certainly one of those, or something similar, would be right up your alley. Or then again, maybe I've had too much coffee for 11pm. > Anyway, I thought Donruss would be a fun niche because they did a good number of kooky vintage non-sport sets all the way back to the early 60's (why I posted this on the RAMBLINGS SERVER). Then I know at least a few guys are working on a UV-era Donruss set or three (why I posted this on the UV SERVER). I won't tell you whose list I was just looking at, because I'm theirOBC Secret Santa / Holiday Hack... but they're not a noob and they have 80's Donruss on their wantlist. And hey, I totally do too. I mean, this is stuff I grew up on! And it's not like the cards are rare. Wouldn't it be coolif we could finish like 50 sets? > Anyway, what do you think? Let's talk about it! And meanwhile, dust off your Donruss dupes! I'd love to do any coordinating / list editing / whatever to make it easiest for everyone, but you just gotta let me know you'd like to be a part. > Okay, I've said enough for tonight. Was driving for several hours today, and this is the kind of stuff I think about. I keep trying to polish this proposal up more and more, and eventually you just gotta hit SEND. > Thanks OBC > Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:18:38 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Weekend Show and Thanks From: Mike Mackie Hi everyone I made my way to the show formerly known as the Chicago SUn Times on Saturday. My collecting efforts had been virtually non-existent since earlysummer but I was able to make some headway on some of my sets, most notably my 1971-72 Topps Hockey set which sits at about 14 cards as I type. The highlight was running into our very own Nick Pelletier and spendingtime catching up and searching for cardboard. I joined he and his wife Katie for dinner afterwards and Nick surprised me by picking up the check. Thanks so much!! Mike Mackie ================= Date: 23 Nov 2016 04:36:25 -0800 To: Subject: Re: arrival From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 12:10:41 -0500 To: yahoogroups Subject: eBay live auctions question From: chris tripler I've signed up to bid on a live auction on eBay (some place in Augusta, Kansas is hosting it). My question is if anyone has ever been part of these things, how does it work? Like a traditional auction, one lot at a time untilthe lot is sold? Or more like the big collection auction houses where theyopen the bidding and there is a closing time on all lots? Directions are not very clear. I may call them. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 21:07:34 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings Subject: new football sets From: John Dahms hello all, an early happy thanksgiving wish to you all! A couple of years ago for my new years card collecting resolution I vowed Iwasn't going to start any new sets that year. And within 30 minutes or so I got a response from our good friend TJ telling me not to even think things like that. and he was right, I did start a few more that year. I have been contemplating on expanding my football set list for some time now and have been picking up 50's and 60's football whenever I find some in a decent price point..like for next to nothing. all this rambling gets me to my point. here is a list of my new football sets, all but the 56 topps is a have list. following the wantlist is a list of my dupes. not many but a few. thanks for the read and as always, any help is appreciated! 1953 bowman haves (96 cards) 1954 bowman haves (128 cards) 15 28 37 46 49 52 56 62 64 73 74 84 105 114 122 123 127 availables 24 48 49 58 86 1955 bowman haves (160 cards) 8 3 12 20 22 23 24 27 33 37 39 40 41 42 46 47 48 49 50 55 57 58 75 82 83 8687 89 109 117 121 139 140 141 142 142 144 1964 philly haves (198 cards) 5 21 43 47 92 123 124 127 129 132 133 135 139 142 144 145 149 158 163 166 174 availables 129 166 1965 philly haves (198 cards) 4 5 16 18 27 30 33 42 48 52 66 67 88 90 91 92 93 102 118 120 131 136 151 162 173 174 186 availables 4 52 66 92 93 118 1967 philly haves (198 cards) 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 15 17 18 27 32 34 37 38 48 66 67 68 72 75 84 86 90 93 96 94 102 104 107 108 109 113 116 117 118 119 120 129 131 144 145 151 156 159 164 166 168 169180 checklist #1 and 2 availables 3 6 18 27 38 48 93 97 116 164 166 1960 fleer haves (132 cards) 14 24 28 29 36 37 44 55 56 64 79 85 88 90 91 97 availables 37 91 97 1961 fleer haves (220 cards) 7 19 25 29 43 64 78 80 97 103 1962 fleer haves (88 cards) 6 38 1956 topps football haves (126 cards) 4 16 19 27 34 37 39 62 66 75 81 93 94 100 108 111 112 117 availables 27 37 66 1957 topps haves (154 cards) 4 5 8 13 17 18 22 25 27 32 38 51 54 57 59 63 70 73 81 82 86 143 availables 21 22 54 73 1958 topps football needs (132 cards) 1 2 3 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 27 29 33 35 39 42 44 45 46 47 51 52 54 57 58 60 61 62 63 64 66 67 68 71 73 75 77 78 80 81 84 86 88 89 90 91 93 94 96 97 103 106 108 109110 112 115 117 118 119 120 122 123 124 126 127 128 129 131 available 25 28 34 43 69 74 85 87 95 99 101 121 125 130 1960 topps football haves (132 cards) 2 5 6 8 29 31 32 35 64 67 71 75 81 94 100 110 121 122 130 availables 67 75 1961 topps haves (198 cards) 3 32 36 69 75 78 80 97 99 110 115 118 119 128 132 134 143 146 155 190 availables 198 1962 topps haves (176 cards) 4 16 29 34 59 70 81 148 1963 topps haves (170 cards) 21 33 35 69 70 137 148 1964 topps haves (176 cards) 95 101 1966 topps haves (132 cards) 23 73 1967 topps haves (132 cards) 41 125 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 04:42:30 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Holiday Cards & Secret Santa...an FYI From: chris tripler Hello everyone, or nearly everyone... As some of you may know or have figured out, I am sending out cards to everyone in OBC...a personal challenge to spread some holiday cheer... Anyways, I am also participating in Secret Santa...so, a card from me may be confusing... If you receive a card from me that says "Happy Holidays" on the back side of the envelope...tear into it and see what's going on...I have sent out about 70ish envelopes, and I should be done some time by the second week of December (there are a couple COMC and EBay packages yet to arrive...). If on the other hand you receive a box with the words written in big, bold letters "DO NOT OPEN TILL CHRISTMAS OR YOUR PERSONAL HOLIDAY OF PRIMARY CELEBRATION!!!", then you have me as your secret santa and proceed to follow the rules of the Secret santa (or, do whatever you normally do in these situations...). Thanks everyone...Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Holidays... ================= Date: 25 Nov 2016 08:52:41 -0800 To: Subject: New Website - Please evaluate From: lucifer33323@yahoo.com ================= Date: 25 Nov 2016 16:46:36 -0800 To: Subject: Single card waiver tonight From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:52:55 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings , Subject: world of wheels needs From: John Dahms I have a short list of these 54 world of wheels set and thought I would putout a flyer. I have some of these to swap and plenty of baseball and football. 54 world of wheels needs 65 105 107 119 124 126 138 143 144 151 154 155 156 157 158 thanks for the read John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: "'obc ramblings'" Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:53:13 -0500 Subject: Trading for 1920's American Caramel From: "Bob Donaldson" I am making a push on some of the American Caramel sets from the 1920's, especially the E121 and E120's. For those of you not familiar with the sets see http://www.oldcardboard.com/e/e2/e120/e120.asp?cardsetID=751 and http://www.oldcardboard.com/e/e2/e121/e121.asp?cardsetID=752 I realize people probably don't have a lot of these in their dup boxes, but I'm hoping some of the items below might tempt someone For pre-war I've the following in my dup box. I can send scans of anything that interests you E90 Stanage, Criger, McQuillan all g/vg but with mult hole punches. Bush f, LEach g but trimmed E92 Dockman Donovan trimmed E95 Chance f/p loss on bottom border, Morgan f T205 Schlei f skinned T206 Abbaticchio brown sleeves PSA2 1921-24 Exhibits Holke f/p pin holes, Powell f/g, E. Smith f, Veach g 1923 W514 14 Frish f (cut close) 1927 W560 red and black Left Grove, trimmed close o/w vg 1921-3 E220 National Caramel Grimm f/g trimmed, Kerr f trimmed, Smith f/p, Ring f 1922 V61 Neilson's Chocolate (type II) Parkinson, Ekerbe both f/g w/ slight 1929 Kashin Whitney g 1933 Goudey 67 g 113 f 116 f/g 140 f (slight paper loss on front) 167 g (bd) 224 vg 1933 Goudey all with MBD but nice fronts Thevenow, Bengough (#1), Frankhouse, Kress 1933 WWG 61 g 1935 DS 10 g 1935 G game cards #6, 8 1936 Goudey Bonura g 1936 National Chicle "Fine Pen" Aucker g pinhole, Young vg+ pinhole 1941 Double Play in-half 33 vg 49 vg 81 Williams f 1941 Play Ball 31 p 35 f/g 47 f I also have some E94s (trimmed but nice), T206s and M101-4 and M101-5's, including HOFers, that I might be tempted to trade. For E120's, I'm just getting started and need most of them. For E121s my wantlist is kinda tough 1921 E121 - either series of 120 or 80, or blank backed (W575-1) Alexander(R arm ext), Bancroft (bat), Burkett, Cobb, Deal(dark u), Donovan, Faber (dark u), Ferguson, Foster, Gonzales, Hawks, Heilman (Run), Jennings, Leibold, Mays, Mitchell, Murphy, O'Leary, Pipp, Quinn, Ruth, Sallee (glove/no glove), Sisler (th,), Stengel (B,P), Toney (both feet down), Vaughn (plain uni) Upgrades to Good (not trimmed) Collins, Coveleskie, Neale, Eppa J. Rixey, Robinson, Roth, Schalk (Bt), Southworth, Veach(folded) thanks for looking ================= Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 18:50:16 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Venezuelan "run" From: Rick Been four months since last report made some good headway. Have to change the total to 4115 since I put 196 instead of 198 for the 59 set. > Well I crunched some numbers for the amount of cards /stickers from 59-77and I get 4113 without variations. My new break down is > 1959-1 of 196, 1959-61 of 198 > 1960-18 of 198, 1960-18 of 198 > 1962-57 of 198, 1962-146 of 198 > 1964-314 of 370, 1964-344 of 370 > 1966-346 of 370, 1966-358 of 370 > 1967-114 of 338, 1967-149 of 338 > 1968-111 of 370, 1968-136 of 370 > 1970-288 of 300, 1970-298 of 300 > 1972-0 of 242, 1972-0 of 242 > 1972/73-244 of 249, 1972/73-246 of 249 > 1973-106 of 275, 1973-106 of 275 > 1974-251 of 275, 1974-263 of 275 > 1976-17 of 330, 1976-328 of 330 > 1977-354 of 402 1977-357 of 402 for a total of 2221 to 2810 > Now to try to find the last 1892 down to 1305. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 20:58:00 -0800 To: familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Venezuelan "run" From: Rick I don't believe there are sp's but supposedly they are in series so the later series are tougher. Yes the stars are very tough due to demand versus supply. HOF collectors,team collectors,player collectors it is hard to win stars. Not very many set collectors so commons are easier to get due to very few people bid against you. I've only got Mike Rich,Mac Wubben,JSG and Chris Tripler on board. Sent from my iPad > On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:29 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Now mind you that I am far from an expert on Venezuela cards (or anythingat all if my wife is consulted)....but this collection that Rick has accumulated must be one of the most comprehensive in America! > Disclaimer...i have zero of these cards. > I do sorta like the "washed out coloring" on the fronts and some of the unique backs, but I am not going to try collecting them. > I'll live vicariously through Rick's collection. > Two questions, > Are there the disturbing high number SP in these sets that have us regular Topps collectors pulling our hair out? > How hard are the stars to collect versus commons? > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: November 25, 2016 at 6:56 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Venezuelan "run" > Been four months since last report made some good headway. Have to changethe total to 4115 since I put 196 instead of 198 for the 59 set. > > > > Well I crunched some numbers for the amount of cards /stickers from 59-77 and I get 4113 without variations. My new break down is > > 1959-1 of 196, 1959-61 of 198 > > 1960-18 of 198, 1960-18 of 198 > > 1962-57 of 198, 1962-146 of 198 > > 1964-314 of 370, 1964-344 of 370 > > 1966-346 of 370, 1966-358 of 370 > > 1967-114 of 338, 1967-149 of 338 > > 1968-111 of 370, 1968-136 of 370 > > 1970-288 of 300, 1970-298 of 300 > > 1972-0 of 242, 1972-0 of 242 > > 1972/73-244 of 249, 1972/73-246 of 249 > > 1973-106 of 275, 1973-106 of 275 > > 1974-251 of 275, 1974-263 of 275 > > 1976-17 of 330, 1976-328 of 330 > > 1977-354 of 402 1977-357 of 402 for a total of 2221 to 2810 > > Now to try to find the last 1892 down to 1305. Rick > > > > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 05:54:36 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Venezuelan "run" From: Aaron Shirley My 'Venezuelan run' is unique. I am VERRRRRY slowly going to work on St. Louis players only. Plus I have 2 copies of the 1967 Bart Shirley and maybe in my lifetime I could get a sheetful - 2 of 9 and I'm only 41... it could happen. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I don't believe there are sp's but supposedly they are in series so the later series are tougher. Yes the stars are very tough due to demand versus supply. HOF collectors,team collectors,player collectors it is hard to win stars. Not very many set collectors so commons are easier to get due to very few people bid against you. I've only got Mike Rich,Mac Wubben,JSG and Chris Tripler on board. Sent from my iPad On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:29 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Now mind you that I am far from an expert on Venezuela cards (or anything at all if my wife is consulted)....but this collection that Rick has accumulated must be one of the most comprehensive in America! Disclaimer...i have zero of these cards. I do sorta like the "washed out coloring" on the fronts and some of the unique backs, but I am not going to try collecting them. I'll live vicariously through Rick's collection. Two questions, Are there the disturbing high number SP in these sets that have us regularTopps collectors pulling our hair out? How hard are the stars to collect versus commons? OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: November 25, 2016 at 6:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Venezuelan "run" Been four months since last report made some good headway. Have to change the total to 4115 since I put 196 instead of 198 for the 59 set. > Well I crunched some numbers for the amount of cards /stickers from 59-77and I get 4113 without variations. My new break down is > 1959-1 of 196, 1959-61 of 198 > 1960-18 of 198, 1960-18 of 198 > 1962-57 of 198, 1962-146 of 198 > 1964-314 of 370, 1964-344 of 370 > 1966-346 of 370, 1966-358 of 370 > 1967-114 of 338, 1967-149 of 338 > 1968-111 of 370, 1968-136 of 370 > 1970-288 of 300, 1970-298 of 300 > 1972-0 of 242, 1972-0 of 242 > 1972/73-244 of 249, 1972/73-246 of 249 > 1973-106 of 275, 1973-106 of 275 > 1974-251 of 275, 1974-263 of 275 > 1976-17 of 330, 1976-328 of 330 > 1977-354 of 402 1977-357 of 402 for a total of 2221 to 2810 > Now to try to find the last 1892 down to 1305. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 01:32:37 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Venezuelan "run" From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Just looking for those Mets and Red Sox :D Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 11/26/2016 12:54:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: My 'Venezuelan run' is unique. I am VERRRRRY slowly going to work on St. Louis players only. Plus I have 2 copies of the 1967 Bart Shirley and maybe in my lifetime I could get a sheetful - 2 of 9 and I'm only 41... it could Sent from my iPhone On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Rick _rick.lyons22@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I don't believe there are sp's but supposedly they are in series so the later series are tougher. Yes the stars are very tough due to demand versus supply. HOF collectors,team collectors,player collectors it is hard to win stars. Not very many set collectors so commons are easier to get due to very few people bid against you. I've only got Mike Rich,Mac Wubben,JSG and Chris Tripler on board. Sent from my iPad On Nov 25, 2016, at 8:29 PM, _familytoad@comcast.net_ (mailto:familytoad@comcast.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Now mind you that I am far from an expert on Venezuela cards (or anything at all if my wife is consulted)....but this collection that Rick has accumulated must be one of the most comprehensive in America! Disclaimer...i have zero of these cards. I do sorta like the "washed out coloring" on the fronts and some of the unique backs, but I am not going to try collecting them. I'll live vicariously through Rick's collection. Two questions, Are there the disturbing high number SP in these sets that have us regular Topps collectors pulling our hair out? How hard are the stars to collect versus commons? OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Rick _rick.lyons22@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com) To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Sent: November 25, 2016 at 6:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Venezuelan "run" Been four months since last report made some good headway. Have to change the total to 4115 since I put 196 instead of 198 for the 59 set. > Well I crunched some numbers for the amount of cards /stickers from 59-77 and I get 4113 without variations. My new break down is > 1959-1 of 196, 1959-61 of 198 > 1960-18 of 198, 1960-18 of 198 > 1962-57 of 198, 1962-146 of 198 > 1964-314 of 370, 1964-344 of 370 > 1966-346 of 370, 1966-358 of 370 > 1967-114 of 338, 1967-149 of 338 > 1968-111 of 370, 1968-136 of 370 > 1970-288 of 300, 1970-298 of 300 > 1972-0 of 242, 1972-0 of 242 > 1972/73-244 of 249, 1972/73-246 of 249 > 1973-106 of 275, 1973-106 of 275 > 1974-251 of 275, 1974-263 of 275 > 1976-17 of 330, 1976-328 of 330 > 1977-354 of 402 1977-357 of 402 for a total of 2221 to 2810 > Now to try to find the last 1892 down to 1305. Rick > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 26 Nov 2016 06:58:42 -0800 To: Subject: Re: world of wheels needs From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 15:33:18 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Available: Goudey wide pen premiums From: Matthew Glidden All in OBC shape, but nice photos nonetheless. Gerald Walker Rabbit Pytlak Rolly Hemsley Please include your address for quicker shipping. :-) ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 17:22:01 +0000 Subject: 1969-1971 Fleer baseball quiz cards From: Aaron Shirley I happily stumbled across these this past week at a shop. I had never seen them before, and I really only noticed them because they were taller than the other cards in the boxes. So I quickly scanned the other boxes (about 20 monster boxes worth, sorted by team) and found six. All but one is bent all the way across the top, where they stick out. Ugh. Who knows how many more were in there, bent and shoved down amongst their standard-sized cousins? The world may never know. But I didn't know what they were, so I asked the shop owner, and he said, "I dunno, maybe something made by Laughlin?" Okay. I guess they can't be an expert on everything. So I figured (simply based on size) they were insertsin the early 70's Fleer Pioneers or Baseball Firsts sets or something. Came home and did some research at The Fleer Sticker Project, a super-valuableresource: http://fleersticker.blogspot.com/2008/02/1969-1971-fleer-baseball-quiz-cards_10.html?m0 According to this site, they are the inserts in 1969-1971 Fleer Cloth Stickers... all mine are from 1971... and several teams even have varieties. Butmy two Tigers are the same, at least I think so. So the first member of FOOT who has read this far can claim the dupe. And speaking of, I'd like to work on the set, but if anyone else needs one for their favorite team, I'd love to send you one especially if you can send one back from my favorite team, the Cardinals. I don't have any of those yet, but here's a pic of all three years from the aforementioned site: Fleer... still fascinates me after all these years. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 13:18:02 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: from Wilmington Ma show - to your mailbox! From: Sean McGowan Even though I went to Chicago for the "weekend" I was able to make it to the Wilmington Ma. show on Sunday. I was able to find some stuff for me, more importantly stuff for you :) Everything here cost at most $1. I was having fun. They are mostly Yankees. Preference will go to someone near completion on a set, so let me know if you are close. Go OBC Bill Skowron collection: 1957 topps #135 (eyes and teeth are scratched up, otherwise really nice!) 1958 topps all star #477 (really nice looking card, with clear tape on the 1962 post #1 (very wrinkled) 1963 post #12 (scribbling on the back, but good looking front) Random stuff: 1957 topps rip repulski #245 (paper loss on front... I thought it was a 1957 topps dodgers team card #71 (names underlined on the front and aggressivly chcked on the back) 1965 topps tony kubek #65 (nice except for the hole-punch to the left of his cap) 1965 topps FOOTBALL #10 Larry Garron (nice except for smeared blue ink from Larry's eybrows up. but it is a '65 topps!) 1961 fleer bill terry #52 trimmed and die-cut :) but the edges are really 1961 fleer #63 charles "red" ruffing, same as above Post collection: These are all wrinkled, and not cut great, and a couple have very minor paper loss. They are rough. 1962 #2 bobby Richardson 1962 #114 Duke Snider 1962 #170 Bill Mazeroski 1963 #20 Ralph terry 1963 #23 Tom Tresh 1963 #193 Gil Hodges ================= Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 14:52:57 -0500 To: Obc Ranblings Subject: 1979 hostess boxes From: JDahms ================= Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 20:15:12 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Re: Available: Goudey wide pen premiums From: Matthew Glidden All Goudeys claimed! On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:33 AM Matthew Glidden > All in OBC shape, but nice photos nonetheless. > Gerald Walker > Rabbit Pytlak > Rolly Hemsley > Please include your address for quicker shipping. :-) > Spike ================= Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 15:27:33 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Wants , Subject: 1978 TCMA Baseball Stars of the 60's From: Dan Angland Is anyone collecting these? Send me your list, Thanks, Dan Angland Have an OBC Sunday! ================= To: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:20:36 -0800 Subject: St Leander Show From: "George Vrechek" Larry Tipton (and family), Geordie Calvert and I made it to the morning session of Mark Macrae's St. Leander's show near Oakland. It was great to visit with the OBCers from far and wide as well as the dealer/collectors who return to this small, vintage show. I got to meet ex-Topps photographer Doug McWilliams which was a great experience. Sorry I missed Ed Pike and Sean Schuettpelz, since I had to get back to family events in San Francisco. If you are into PCL stuff, there were many opportunities. My PCL collecting so far has consisted of visiting the Double Play Bar across the street from the site of the old San Francisco Seals Stadium. I picked up about 30 cards at the show. Mark is a great host with a personal touch. He probably knows 80% of the show attendees by name. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 09:56:19 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Card Show Report From: Larry Tipton I'm in Napa California on babysitting duties, and attended the St Leander'scard show that Mark Macrae has hosted for many years. Happy to meet up with OBC members George V, Ed P, Geordie C, and of course Mark. The venue was an activity center (gym) for a church and the nice church ladies ran the admission table, and the girls basketball team staffed the snack bar. Nice to be able to grab a coke and take a break. Many dealers had PCL stuff (which I don't really collect) and more vintage than modern cards for sure. Of course nothing beats getting to handle and thumb through some cardboard, but when your trying to find those last few cards for your set, nothing is more efficient than an eBay search. My oldest son (38) got me re-started in collecting when he brought home some Donruss packs in 1988 , he picked up two T205 gold borders from Mark, butmy two grandkids would rather buy Pok=C3=A9mon cards lol! I had a nice time and I'm glad I went. Here are some of my pick-ups: One goal was to purchase a gift (which I can't say) to send to my OBC Secret Santa exchange mission accomplished. I did pick up some dozen duplicates (I have the set) 1965/66 Topps hockey including Bobby Hull, a second series checklist, and one of the tough team cards #127 NY Rangers. The team cards don't appear on the checklist and mayhave been released in short supply these are tough. Two hits to my list '61 Nu Card Baseball Scoops I paid the asking price ($5) as I felt kind of sorry for the dealer as he looked lonely. Bargain bin finds $3 each '69 Deckle Joy Foy, '62 Topps Whitey Ford ( both regular and AS cards), '55 Bowman Gil Hodges. '54 Topps Scoops card unscratched, finally a needed '62 Topps football buck. 1952 Bowman small football Art Donovan. T218 hit the last aviator I need for my set. Then a card of US Grant "Herosof ( has a Natural Leaf Scrap back) unknown but I thought it was neat. Then a non sports card I've never seen before they are called "Jiggles" (from the '50's) I bought a near set 1961 Topps "Crazy Cards" for less than .50c a card ex "Ben Franklin did not discover electricity" on back "it discovered him"! Finally three hits 1962 Topps "Mars Attacks" also two low grade (cheap) duplicates need just 17 more for my set. Got a sample pack of card savers this guy is manufacturing they are made out of Mylar and suppose to be the safest way to protect paper based collectibles looks like a great product and I could provide a link to his website if you want to check it out. First time I ever heard that most products including slabs contain oils which can break down cards? www.tcverify.com Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 27 Nov 2016 10:42:58 -0800 To: Subject: OBC Moeller Show Report From: larrygers@aol.com ================= Date: 27 Nov 2016 12:28:43 -0800 To: Subject: Moeller show report From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 16:18:37 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Met another OBCer and Card Show report From: Doug DeJong Spent thanksgiving at our daughter's place in Cincinnati and was able to hit the Moeller show on Friday where I got to meet Larry Gersbach for the first time! Always a pleasure to meet another OBCer and spend some time going through bargain boxes together. The other highlight of the show was a dime box where I managed to spend over $30! Included were 5 1952 Topps, a handful of earlier 50s Bowmans, and an even ten 1948 Bowmans with clean backs, nice corners, and a bit of tape on the front. For a dime, I couldn't resist. Later while going through them I realized one of the 1950 Bowmans was Mel Parnell - card number 1! My SCD has that as a $550 card, so $0.10 is a pretty reasonable Hope everyone had a great holiday weekend. Doug DeJong ================= Date: 27 Nov 2016 17:25:01 -0800 To: Subject: Crazy auction on Net54 From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 04:14:07 +0000 To: obc ramblings Subject: Fake alert: pair of 52T Rizzuto for $20 on eBay From: Matthew Glidden Heads up these are fakes, in case someone is tempted. Bad printing and ink smears, trying to hide fakery with damage. http://www.ebay.com/itm/two-1952-topps-black-back-phil-rizzuto-cards-in-poor-shape-/172424051901?hash=item2825463cbd:g:HQsAAOSwo4pYOVYd ================= Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 02:49:04 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1934 Kensita Cigarettes Flags Silks From: ChicoD1@aol.com Came across a stack of these. I thought they were very cool. They are "silks" about the size of the 1919 Flags of all Nations. The set consists of 60. I have most of a set with what will be tons of extras I may DS. I even found a few variations. Can anyone shed any light on this set? I have been trying to find a checklist to no avail. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 07:46:26 -0600 Subject: looking for the last 2 74' Topps checklists From: "Ken & Linda" Looking to knock off my 74' Topps master set quest. Down to the last 2- checklist. Thanks for any consideration. Ken Goetsch 16 Parkview Lane Watertown, Wi. 53094 1974 TOPPS TEAM CHECKLISTS Wants-[Red] All with 2**, Any Condition.-Dodgers,Padres. ================= Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:42:01 -0500 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1963 Jellos From: mikesportsfan@aol.com If anyone else is interested in going in on this lot, please contact me directly. I only need 5 of the 19 shortprints. #3 78 Bressoud 132 157 Cloninger 172 Williams. I would go at least $100 for those 5. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 10:42 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1963 Jellos So this lot is already at $232. 31 cards listed as Post but are all Jellos including 19 SPs two Bressouds, Clinton, Billy williams, 2 Gotays, Pagan,Edwards, Bright, 3 Osteens, Cloninger, Versailles, Pizarro, Hiller, Walls,Neal, Farrell. Interesting to see where this one ends up..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/351919501177?_trksidp2060353.m1431.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:11:02 +0000 Subject: Donruss December reminder From: Aaron Shirley I've had a few people express interest in Donruss December, hoping many more will join us. Just got done reading like 20 emails where everyone ganged up on Wes's 1977Topps list. Sorry I missed it, but WOW! That is always fun to see and be apart of. That's the thought I'm going for with this. So the idea, in case you didn't read before or don't remember, is to list all your Donruss wants. Then you send what Donruss you can to the others whodo the same. And we update lists where possible with what we send. Some procedural thoughts: I know some don't really like Google Drive document sharing, so although there will be a live version, I can also accumulateyour lists and provide occasional updates through the appropriate server (Wantlist for vintage nonsport, UVlist for 81+ baseball and nonsport). Sort of like I did with the auction. Will adjust according to how much action ispouring through, and so as not to become annoying to those not participating. Wanna play? Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 19:11:16 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Dec Waivers From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- It's a day earlier, but here's what's on the top of my stack at the moment.Please include your address if you claim any! 1959 Topps:440 Burette 442 Narleski454 Clark544 Tate 1972 Topps:580 Pinella592 Krausse599 Champion604 Checklist (copyright on rt side) Take Care,Geno ================= To: "'Ken & Linda'" , Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2016 15:02:37 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] looking for the last 2 74' Topps checklists From: "Matt Yudt" Ken - I have them both and will send them out. Anyone else need 74 checklists? I have a stack of about 100 I would LOVE to get rid of. Anyone want a starter lot, say the word. Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Ken & Linda' kshoes@charter.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:46 AM To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@YAHOOGROUPS.COM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] looking for the last 2 74' Topps checklists Looking to knock off my 74' Topps master set quest. Down to the last 2- checklist. Thanks for any consideration. Ken Goetsch 16 Parkview Lane Watertown, Wi. 53094 1974 TOPPS TEAM CHECKLISTS Wants-[Red] All with 2**, Any