================= Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 06:40:48 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Friday at the National From: Larry Tipton Met Joel and his wife in hotel lobby before Taylor drove Spike Joel and I over to open the show around 8:30 AM. I spent the first hour or so digging through Chandys stuff and found some hits in the dollar bin including what I thought was a 1971 (?) Lew Alcindor card, also found a Bell Brand Rams card and Mars Attack in the $5 bin. Saw Gersh Aaron (thanks for the shirts) Mark Z as well as bumping into members all day. Got involved somehow in the"headless Lou" card purchase with Nick and Steve R where a Goudey Gehrig and Ted Williams Double Play card was purchased. Struck out so far trying tofind a '62 Ditka rookie and two other cards to finish my set these cards are cheaper on eBay. I did purchase five more needed t206 which I think putsme at 43 hits so far picked up Cy Young, Walter Johnson, Chief Bender I think I am at 470 plus diff T206 this is hard to believe. I showed Mac my purchases and got his blessing which means a lot to me. Mac keeps the pressureon me as he wants to know what's next for me to collect....I also purchased nine cheap and needed T205 cards. The whole day kind of a fog and endlesswanderings through these cardboard alleys is this heaven? Got texted by Wes to come to Mike McCann table found Nick thumbing through some 70s Topps basketball and I asked if he needed the Alcindor which he gladly took only to point out that the card was a Heritage Reprint which I didn't even know existed! At six Taylor walked over for some dinner chips salsa and tacos served by 14 year olds lol the food was great and cheap then we walked around before having a great time at the Net54 dinner. Finished the day sorting through cards before crawling into bed around 1AM what an amazing experience this Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 01 Aug 2015 17:13:30 -0700 To: Subject: 74 Topps available From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 21:38:26 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC SWAP From: Larry Tipton ================= Date: 01 Aug 2015 19:44:47 -0700 To: Subject: Down in the Dumps.... From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= To: "'Larry Tipton'" , Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 19:47:36 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SWAP [1 Attachment] From: "Grant Rainsley" There's something missing....Morganti's Wizard Hat! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 7:38 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SWAP [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Larry Tipton included below] ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 06:33:36 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1975 Rose mini up on eBay From: anthony.senthi@gmail.com http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-Mini-Pete-Rose-320-Bargain-priced/131554926781?_trksidp2046732.c100040.m2060&_trkparmsaid%3D111001%26algo%3DR= Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 06:23:45 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Saturday at the National From: Larry Tipton I spent a nice couple hours at Paul Korst table thumbing through a couple unsorted boxes of non sports cards and finished a couple sets. Class guy. Then I spent my time trying to kill off additional non sports sets and had some good luck too. Needing just one or two cards I tend to pay a bit more for a card:) the show floor was VERY crowded today! So I'm chatting with Spike and he says he is gonna head out looking some more, but instead of going down the aisles vertically like everyone does he is gonna scour the aisles horizontally just to make sure he hasn't missed something and Spike takes off. I think this is a heck of a plan! I always check around the corner at each dealers table but there is a chance I could have missed something too. So almost immediately I start seeing cards and displays I haven't seen all week, and I'm adding hits along several aisles and then the impossible happens........ The 1962 Post football set was the first football set I started I've been chasing it fifteen years! VERY challenging set with several high numbers anda few VERY short prints think Grape Nuts cereal lol! I've needed just card #117 and card #92 for at least two years. #92 is Dave Baker the holy grail of this set. Every time I see a stack of Post FB I always look, and here is a new stack of Post FB I haven't seen all week here at "Common Man" cards, what do you know there is #117 priced $25! I ask if $20 is ok, dealer says ok! Spikes suggestion is MAGIC!!!! So I tell dealer now I just need #92 to complete my set and Mr "Common Man"says he has one! He holds out a beautiful card #92 I swear it's the only one in the building and it is so clean you can see 80% of the black line where the kid cut it off the Grape Nuts!!! Price? $400 WOW OUCH DAMN ok let mesee it lol! Dealer is super sweet old guy says he bought it for $325 let me tell you how rare and tough this card is? I bought the darn thing for $350 and finished my set! I text Spike I am so excited spike wants to see it and I show it off to a couple more guys it is a BLAZER! Spike suggested I might want to have it slabbed and I agree it has to be Preserved! So I pluck down $35 at the SGC booth to pay for a one hour turn around to get Dave Baker slabbed... Card came back NM 84 !!!!!!!!!!! How is is possible for a guy who just spent $350 on a piece of a cereal box, to feel so good about things I can't get this grin off my face even this AM as I sit in the lobby drinking my coffee. I don't leave until tomorrow so I'll be at the show all day. There is some frosting on the NM Bakers slab I want SGC to look at so he is going with metoo. Plus I want to continue my vertical search of the convention floor! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 06:29:36 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: #92 Dave Baker From: Larry Tipton ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:13:35 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Sunday at the National From: Larry Tipton No major purchases today my feet are killing me:) I bought a stack of 1962 Topps baseball Hi # SPs for $3.25 each and a stack of 1959 Topps baseball high #s for $2 each from Kurt so I'll put those on the dealer scum in a day so. Had such a great time, but kinda wish I would have taken off for home this AM. I completed sets: 1969 Topps football "Four-In-One" 1959 Topps hockey 1954 Bowman US Navy Victories 1957 Topps Space Cards 1958 Topps TV Westerns 1959 Fleer Indians 1959 Topps Funny Valentines 1961 Topps Sports Cars 1971 Topps Partridge Family 1973 Topps Youll Die Laughing 1976 Topps Happy Days stickers Great Times Thanks Everyone esp my "roommates" Taylor and Spike! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:14:12 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gurus Haul From: Larry Tipton ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 17:28:14 -0500 To: obc ramblings , national Subject: Reminder for new set collectors : OBC has a 000 - 999 wantlist From: Matthew Glidden Get your numbers lists here! Copy 'em while they're hot! http://www.oldbaseball.com/funstuff/numbers.html ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 19:43:06 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: A great time at the Nationals and the Swap From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, I just got back today from the Nationals It was a great time. I may of not found the cards I was originally looking for but I did find cards that I was not planning on buying. It happens every time I go to the Nationals. I also had a great time at the Swap.. The Handshakes were great, meeting members I have never seen before just anadded Speaking of the Handshakes OBC Handshakes MikeRich: a 1962 Post and a 1961Scoops (Like these cards a lot) and then later at the Swap asked me if I havethe Mets Coke Topps set, I said no, andyou know how that works in OBC (smile) I now have started that collection as Mikewas kind enough to hand me 10 Mets Coke Topps, OBC at the best..Thanks RichardDingman: 1953 Bowman Color Del Wellber TaylorSchock: A nicely Trimmed 1952Topps Myron Ginsberg, a 1954 Topps Billy Herman, a 1956 Topps Orioles Teamcard, a hi number 1956 Topps KentGoto: A 1970 Topps Ryan Savesthe Day, Nice Card!! WesShepard: 2 1962 High Numbers, Wes also tossed in some 1933 Goudies formewhile we were chatting at the OBC Swap, Wes, Thank You!! GeordieCalvert: 5 nice looking1961Fleer GaryMandell: a Great looking 1963 Post RonPerry: 3 1963 Post TJ:He may not have been at the show, but he was still able to have someonedo an OBC Handshake with me in his name, Awesome!!. TJ sends along 9 1970 OBC cards. TJ youmay not have been at the show but your ears had to be burning as everyone wassaying they cannot wait till next year when you are with us at the Nationals!! GeorgeVrechek: a 1957 Topps Update MarkZentkovich: Hits me with 2 Vintage and 2 UVs, The vintagecards =E2=93 a 1958 Yankees and 1963 Post (Ray Washburn). The UV cards one was anSerial Tom Seaver and the other was the talk of the town a few days back (TheTrade with the Brewers that was reported but never happened, causing a big stirhere in NY) TheSnake Man, Alias Saturday=E2=99s Swap auctioneer (Mark Talbot): a 1949Bowman (One of my new sets), 2 1952 Topps (1 a Black Back), 2 1954 Bowman (Newcombe),and a UV Duke Snider Gersh:a 1961 Fleer Greats and a 1962 Post MarkMacrae: 3 1958 Topps Spike: 3 1955 Bowmans JoelFreedman: 3 1962 Posts Sal:The OBC pack, I love it, all cards of OBC members..Good Stuff and itcame with a stick of gum (LOL), Sal also gave me a Mets 1971 Tattoo and a 1971Kelloggs Bud Harrelson SteveRittenberg: 4 nice looking 1954 Bowmans: and whole crap a 1965 EmbossedMickey Freakin Mantle, and a 1955 Topps Ted Williams.Steve, You did me betterthan the show did..lol) Steve was not done as he also hit my Mets Autos with aKevin Elster Auto If I missed someone, my apologies as myhead is still spinning, going just 1day to the show and then the swap, is toomuch for the brain to take, and with all those handshakes and all those greatscards I received from all my friends in OBC..Just one word can some itup..AMAZING!!, Duringthe Swap.. I was throw at..oops tossed some Metsstuff from Mark Talbot (Auctioneer), Thanks Mark for making it fun!! Also, I was handed a 1975 Mini BobApodaca Mets Auto (my head was spinning by then from all the fun I was havingso please forgive me for not remember who gave me this great card. Some of you may know , one of my sidecollection is collecting all the Mets autos, so this was a big one (The oldermets are hard to find) Also one of my Handshakes did not have aname attached They handed me 5 1961 Posts cards mostof them in great shape..Thank you..mystery Thanksto everyone for the cards, the great conversations (I enjoyed just hanging Also,for everyone that put the swap together Thank you for all the hard work, it wasgreat!!. Even my wife had a good time. Thank You for letting her be part of thefun. Itwas a great time and I will see everyone next year in Atlantic City NY. PS=E2=93 I will be sending out the pictures that was taking at the swap shortly. Happy Trading Kevin Martens ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 19:13:40 -0500 To: "" Subject: Post National Waivers From: john harrell About a month ago I got a bunch of 59, 60, 61, and 62 Topps and sent out around 35 packages. Here are the remnants up for grabs, FCFS. 60 Topps: 12, 53, 89 61 Topps: 5, 6, 27, 53, 60, 62, 66, 69, 73, 75, 76, 78, 85, 87, 93, 94,105, 113, 128, 137, 139, 146, 148, 158, 162, 167, 178, 187, 197, 210, 214, 217, 225, 239(2). 243, 251, 263, 267, 269, 270, 282, 289,292, 342, 353, 357, 358, 364, 381, 392, 424 62 Topps: 4, 15, 19(2), 21, 26, 34, 39, 41(2), 64, 69(2), 71, 72, 74, 75, 76, 79(2), 82(2), 87(2), 92, 94(4), 101(2), 102, 104(2), 123(2), 124, 147, 171, 177(2), 184 ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 22:06:22 -0400 To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Final Report From: cardclctor@aol.com Hi gang, Saturday I spent a lot of time at the show just wandering the aisles doing nothing. I was pretty much out of money and looking forward to the swap more than anything. I had such a great time looking over the show and tell items people had brought to show off. You can learn so much about the hobby by just being in the room when a group of us gathers like that. Mark's auction was entertaining and fortunately I was outbid on almost every item ;-) I did put my hand up for a lot or maybe two. Had a nice long conversation with Wes, I got to show off a couple items I'm proud of to people that could actually appreciate them for what they are - not just some silly cards I paid way too much money to obtain. I brought my complete set of 1948-49 Leaf set with all the short prints and some select variations (I'm sure there's a bunch of printing differences that I didn't have) I also brought along a binder with my T205 collection, which stands about 5 cards shy of a master set. I also discovered a gremlin Ford with black cap that I don't remember taking out of the binder. Things finally broke up about midnight and I returned to the hotel and went to sleep fairly quickly, although I battled another headache for part of the night. Sunday I, like a lot of us, decided to sleep in as I have been out of money for a couple days. I drove over to pick up Sal and his luggage at his hotel around 10 and we headed to the show to scope out some last minute bargains. A lot of the dealers had reported very good sales over the week and Saturday's crown really packed the aisles. The last minute bargains weren't a plentiful as previous Nationals, but Mike Rich and Mark Talbot took a TON of stuff from Chandy's table that he didn't want to lug home just before we got there. Wandered around with Sal for a while and managed to find one more card on my list before we left - the last common on my 1949 Bowman gray back list, leaving only Roberts and Jackie's RC... It'll be a while before that set sees another hit I think. Finally walked to the car in the adjacent CTA lot just as the sky was getting really dark and it started to spit some rain. As we began our drive to the airport, it started to hail. By the time we pulled up to the light at the end of the lot, the sky opened up and you could barely see the traffic light. The storm only lasted a couple minutes, but the road to the airport was littered with traffic cones, barrels and some branches. After I dropped Sal off, I came back towards the convention center and saw a light pole on the ground on the exit ramp near where Sal and I had just walked a little while before on the way to the car. I went back to the hotel, as I had no interest in looking at cards any more and found out from Steve that the Convention Center had lost power for a while too. I sorted some cards and packed up some stuff, then headed over to the show to pick up Richard and Steve and took them to their hotel (which still didn't have power). We went out for some dinner, picked up some things for the road at the nearby Target and I drove them back to their hotel. My plan now is to get a little sleep and head home early in the morning, with maybe a rest stop in western NY on the way. I hope to make it home by the time my kids are ready for bed, so I can go with them (and see them before they're asleep). I do have a few DS cards that I'll post on the server when I get home, so if you need any late 60's Mantles, keep an eye out for that :-) Looking forward to next year already. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 22:07:12 -0500 To: "" Subject: Waiver Update From: john harrell This is what is left from this evening's waivers. FCFS. 60 Topps: 12, 53, 89 61 Topps: 5, 6, 27, 53, 60, 62, 66, 69, 73, 75, 76, 85, 87, 93, 94,105, 113, 128, 139, 146, 148, 158, 162, 178, 187, 197, 210, 239(2). 267, 269, 270, 342, 364, 381, 392, 424 62 Topps: 4, 15, 19(2), 21, 26, 34, 39, 41(2), 64, 69(2), 71, 72, 74, 75, 76, 79(2), 82(2), 87(2), 92, 94(4), 101(2), 102, 104(2), 123, 171, 177 ================= Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 23:17:08 -0500 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gurus Haul [1 Attachment] From: TJ Valacak Wow! I mean.......WOW!!!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 2, 2015, at 4:14 PM, "Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Larry Tipton included below] > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:19:05 -0500 To: "" Subject: Remaining Waivers From: john harrell After 4 purcvhases, here's what's left. FCFS. 60 Topps: 12, 53, 89 61 Topps: 5, 27, 53, 60, 62, 66, 69, 73, 75, 76, 85, 87, 93, 94,105, 113, 128, 139, 146, 148, 162, 178, 197, 239, 342, 424 62 Topps: 4, 15, 19(2), 21, 26, 34, 39, 41(2), 64, 69(2), 71, 72, 74, 75, 76, 79(2), 82(2), 87(2), 92, 94(4), 101(2), 102, 104(2) ================= Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 10:21:18 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: National Thanks........ From: Joel Freedman wow, what an experience. last year, i was a rookie, this year was more enjoyable, i felt like I fit in. Please forgive me if i erred in thanks, i did it write it down, but as we all know, it just keeps coming=85=85.. Thanks to=85=85=85 Sal Domino - 1970 Topps Super Mays, 1974 Topps Red Checklist one asterisk (co set killer w Mike Rich) and a pack of OBC cards with gum (this is great) Geordie Clavert - 54 Topps Fain,6 61 Topps, 4 58 Topps, a 59 Topps and a 57Topps. Richard Dingman - a 54 Bowman and a 55 Bowman TV Set Larry Gersbach a 1964 Topps Stand up, Lee Thomas Spike - 3 1964 Topps stand ups, Robinson, Ford and Spahn Kent - a 1967 Topps Killebrew (awesome condition) Ray Luurs - 7 1962 Post Football Mike Mackie 6 1973-74 Topps Basketball Gary Mandell 1964 Topps Kevin Martens - 2 1957 Topps, Skinner and Nieman Ken Morganti - 1967 Topps Mantle Nick Pelletier 1962 Topps (plus 1956 Topps Football Bednarik to finish the set!) Ron Perry - 2 1956 Topps Mike Rich 3 1969 Topps stamp albums (Yankees, Twins and Astros) and 1974 Topps Red Checklist one asterisk (co set killer w Sal Domino). I was also handed a complete sheet of MLB stamps. The sheet contained my HOM, Tommy Harper! Steve Rittenberg - a 1964 Venezulean of a Red Sox, a 1928 Exhibit, a bunch of 73 Topps blue checklists and 1967 Topps Brock/Flood. Taylor Schock, 2 1961 Topps 11 1965 Topps and some UV football. Wes Shepard - 66 and 67 Topps baseball (and we made a trade where i netted a 1955 TW!) Mark Talbot, a pic of Mantle and Aaron, 3 19 67 Topps, 3 1971 Kellogs and a61 Post, 67 Topps Hockey Guru - 3 62 Topps, 2 whitey fords and a clemente TJ - (get well soon, brother!) a 54 Bowman and a 56 Topps George Vrechek - 3 1964 Philly FB Mac Wubben - A Hostess uncut Aaron Mark Zentkovich - UV Kellogs, 3 1966 T a 1965 Topps and Some UV Kellogs andTopps FB. oh yeah, and a dvd of the 2004 WS with the red sox breaking the86 year curse! Thanks to everyone!!! ================= Date: 03 Aug 2015 08:02:53 -0700 To: Subject: 2015 National - OBC Topps cards complete (almost)! From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 11:50:42 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: More national thanks From: Joel Freedman To Jason Christopherson, for 2 1960 Topps, including HOFer, Nellie Fox a 1965 and a 1953! Thanks, Jason, since i didn=92t meet you, yours handshake is in the mail. ================= Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 12:04:26 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Home Safe/Dealer Scum From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I=E2=99m home safe and wanted to post a quick message. I know Ken Morganti said he has some Mantles to post on our Dealer Scum yahoo server. I have some cards too that the only reason I bought them was to post on our Dealer Scum yahoo server. In fact the last day Ken and I saw a lot of about tenbeat up T206s for $5 each at Roger Neufeldts table but I passed on them. Wish I would have bought them so I could pass them along via Dealer Scum yahoo server my bad. Anyway if you want to participate on the Dealer Scum Server, you have to sign up. I am one of the "owners=E2=9D of this server, and if you can=E2=99t figure out how to join, just email me and I can easily send you an invitation. ================= Date: 03 Aug 2015 13:48:37 -0700 To: Subject: Some mid 70s waivers today From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 19:59:39 -0500 To: "" Subject: Dwindling Waivers From: john harrell 60 Topps: 12, 53, 89 61 Topps: 5, 27, 53, 60, 62, 66, 69, 73, 75, 76, 85, 87, 93, 94,105, 113, 128, 139, 146, 148, 162, 178, 197, 239, 342, 424 62 Topps: 4, 15, 19(2), 21, 26, 41(2), 69(2), 72, 76, 79(2), 82, 87(2), 94(4), 101(2), 102, 104(2) ================= Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 22:04:06 -0400 To: wite3@aol.com, grains@shaw.ca, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Complete sets From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I certainly did not catch Joshua, I think I got a type card, started a set or bought a complete set to about 21 more vintage BB sets at the National (TCMA and strip cards accounted for a number of these). -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: wite3 ; grains ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Complete sets That puts Joshua as the leader in the clubhouse with 667 different vintage BB sets, and that is only of his Phillies! Beats my 622. Let's me know I have a ways to go. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Levine To: mikesportsfan ; grains ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 9:22 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Complete sets Spent the weekend counting up some stuff.... For just my Phillies collection...396 sets represented from 1880-1970. Addto that 271 sets from 1971-1980...and then 407 sets from 1981-1989. Gives me a grand total of 1074 different sets represented in just what I considermy Phillies collection. Mine did include pins and coins. Like Mike said, there are around 200 sets on my wantlist that I still do not have a single copy of (and probably never will on most of those). -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: grains < grains@shaw.ca>; OBC-Ramblings < OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2015 5:24 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Complete sets For those that do a lot of type cards, I wonder how many sets they have cards from? 1000 sets? Former OBCer, Gord Ellis, collected all sports and also type cards. It would not surprise me if he was close to that level. I think I have listed cards from 568 more vintage sets that I either have a type card or am collecting the set on my wantlists. While not counting my Coke caps, this did include coins (Armour, Salada, etc.), pins (1956 Topps, 1969 MLBPA, etc.), cans (Canada Dry Phillies, 76ers) and other items such as those. Add that to the 489 different vintage complete sets, (not counting my Coke caps) and I have topped the 1000 set list. I guess that explainsall the jokes about my collecting every vintage set ever issued. What is the upper limit on sets I have type cards, am collecting or have completed?After all these years, I would think adding almost 200 more sets would beextremely challenging, and that would ge t m e to 1250. With the help of OBC that might be possible. If anyone has an extra type card or 2 of some regional or team issues or other obscure issues, please let me know. I cantry and reciprocate with either another oddball item or something from your regular lists. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Grant Rainsley < grains@shaw.ca> To: mikesportsfan < mikesportsfan@aol.com>; OBC-Ramblings < OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2015 12:18 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Complete sets You are never wrong to blame George. Somebody has to pay the price J (Sorry George!) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 8:57 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Complete sets I blame George Vrechek for getting me to look deeply into what sets and cards I already have. I have been trying to update my lists and every couple of days, it seemsI find another error in the lists. Most specifically on my completed vintage sets list. I had wrong years listed (Royal Dessert, Milk Duds and lotsof basketball and hockey sets). I have also been trying to compare the new on line list, with my big guides. Unfortunately, I am unable to locate my Football SCD. I know I have one, and just used it a couple of weeks ago,but it is currently a gremlin. Cross referencing the chronological lists from SCD to my on line list, which is alphabetical by issuer is quite interesting. While the complete set list, is not quite all complete sets, 1933 Goudey listed, but I still need Lajoie and 1 Ruth, 1954 Bowman, even though#66 Williams eludes me, 1959 Fleer #68 and 1960 Fleer #80 are also absent from my collection. Considering the number of OBCers that consider those sets complete without those cards, I figu re I can list them as "complete". I also have some issues that are not in my 2008 BB SCD, which is the year I use. These include 1977-78 RC Cola cans, 1977 Laughlin Errors (thanks toSteve Rittenberg for that set), Team issues, such as 1953 Indians Photos, 1970 Mets and 1980 Twins and 1970 Kellogg's Team Logo Ruboffs. If I include those, I believe I now have 260 1980 and prior BB sets completed, 89 FB, 28 + 2 1980-81 season BSKB, 84 + 6 1980-81 HCKY and 20 other sports. The only Coke cap issue I counted was the 64-65 HCKY, as a single set. I believe I did not count any Jay's Photo Packs. That is a total of 489 complete vintage sets (if you count the 1980-81 season), which the lists need to be audited, especially FB. With around 70 more sets on the 5 and under to complete list, I have a shot at topping 500 at the National. I have almost 500other sets started, but many/most of those will never get complet ed. Closer to type cards, than completing the sets. Others I will get close to eventually, (T-206 I still need 122), but will never finish. I still have some good dupes to swap for items on my lists if anyone can assist. Is 600 sets a realistic goal??? Between PCL and other minor league issues, Pre-war, team and regional issues, I would say there are another 100+ complete vintage sets within OBC that are not on my lists. If we were to go 1980 to present, I would think Kevin Martin may have more sets than I do. Even some of the guys that collect non-sports, such as Guru, may have more vintage sets done. I am still shocked at the number I have gotten to, because I instinctively think, I have about 30 years of vintage Topps BB, and even with inserts, Bowman, and other issues, maybe I have 100 sets. Turns out betweenTopps, inserts and TDMA issues, I am at 93 vintage sets done. Never thought it could be 260 and counting. Mike Rich ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:05:42 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: 6-card trimmed OBC star lot From: Matthew Glidden This one looks priced for OBC and vaguely artistic in style. http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-CARD-TRIMMED-TOPPS-LOT-1963-SANDY-KOUFAX-210-1962-MUSIAL-50-MORE-BV-500-/231637790426?hash=item35eeb02eda ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 04:43:20 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Certified Gremlin Free From: Geordie Calvert So I'm sorting and filing football sets first. I brought back a decent amount from the National (finishing 1970 and 1975), and after filing I went through each set that had hits and made sure Mr. Gremlin hadn't been at work. As I was going through 1973, not only did I not have any Gremlins, but I was able to cross 16 cards from what I thought I was missing. That was an unexpected and very pleasant surprise. Anyway, to the point of the Ramble. I'm sure many of you do this, but as I check each set for missing numbers, I'm adding a note in the box that designates the set "Certified Gremlin Free" with the date I checked it. I think that will be quite helpful down the road. ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 02:25:57 -0700 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations From: Glenn Codere If you need a 1968 Phil Ortega, better grab it now! Looks like Geordie is cornering the market like that guy does with the 1964 Curt Flood! :-) On Tue, 8/4/15, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Thanks] Subject: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations To: "Thanks (OBC)" Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 2:58 AM gang. Hope everything is well in your corner of the Got home about 2 a.m. this morning, in bed by 3 or so, up at 8. Caught up on work that piled up while I was gone, and now it's time to put stuff away. Before I can do that, I have quite a few folks to thank for National handshakes. * Ron Perry: 1961 Post Podres and Larry Sherry. Thanks, Ron!* Sal Domino: 7 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a truly amazing assortment of OBC versions of great vintage sets, and some Gremlin cards. I'm sure I'll be needing some of those when I go to put cards away! Thanks, Sal!* Mark Zentkovich: 3 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a '68 Phil Ortega,and a couple of UV unmentionables. Thanks, Mark!* Joel Freedman: 4 hits to the 1968 set, including Phil Ortega. Thanks, Joel!* Mike Mackie: 3 hits to the 1968 set. Thanks, Mike!* T.J. Valacak: SCP nosebleeder to the '66 birthyear set. Thanks, T.J.! I sure hope you're feeling better soon.* Ray Luurs: 11 hits to the '68 set, including Al Kaline, Hoyt Wilhelm and Phil Ortega (are you seeing a theme here? ) Thanks, Ray!* Wes Shepard: a 1958 team emblem insert, which of course features the Dodgers. I didn't have one of these yet, so this'll go with my team set. Thanks, Wes!* George Vrechek: SCP to the '68 set... you know who! Thanks, George!* Taylor Schock: 5 hits to 3 football sets: Franco Harris, Ahmad Rashad, Joe DeLamielleure, L.C. Greenwood and Fred Biletnikoff. Thanks, Taylor!* Gary Mandell: SCP '63 Post Ron Fairly. Thanks, Gary!* Kent Goto: 2 hits to the new Bell Brands list - Carl Furillo and Stan Williams. Thanks, Kent!* Nick Pelletier: my other roomie hit my 1961 Post list twice - Hodges and Podres. Thanks, Nick!* Richard Dingman: 2 hits to the '68, including Phil Niekro. Thanks, Richard!* Larry Tipton: 7 hits to the Post lists: 4 from 1963 (including Drysdale) and 3 from 1961. Wow! Thanks, Guru!* Mark Talbot: 3 hits to the Bell Brands list and a 1962 Post of Daryl Spencer. Spencer's card has a handwritten addendum on the back which has his stats with the Reds and "Now playing in Japan" bio line. Thanks, Mark!* Steve Rittenberg: 12 hits to the '68 set, including a Batting Leaders card with Clemente, a Killebrew All-Star, a 6th series checklist with Frank Robby, plus two hits to the 1967 team card list and the action half of 1957 Topps footballer Jim Cason . Steve also achieves set-killer status by finding the last OBC-provided hit to the 1970 David Kolenda Memorial Set. Thanks so much, Steve!* Larry Gersbach: 1968 nosebleeder Bob Miller. Thanks, Gersh!* Jason Christopherson: got to meet Jason just before he left the show, but not before he hit my '68 list twice. Thanks, Jason!* Kevin Martens: SCP hit to the 1961 Post list. Thanks, Kevin!* Mike Rich: 4 hits to the '68 list, plus a great 1953 Red Man Dressen. Thanks, Mike!* Mac Wubben: Red Man hits to the '54 list (Snider) and '55 list (Erskine). Thanks, I had a fantastic time. Thanks again to everyone who took some time to look at my list. I truly appreciate it. ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:06:16 -0400 To: dodgergeo@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Certified Gremlin Free From: Tom Housley But do you have all of the variations? Checklist 1 has one and two asterisk versions, and so do all of the team checklists. :-) Tom Housley ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 08:43:48 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: WAIVER: 1961 Topps "Magic Rub-Offs" starter lot available From: LAWRENCE TIPTON 36 =E2=9Crub-offs=E2=9D in the full set, I have a starter lot of 11 different available. That=E2=99s the good news. The bad news is that these have been =E2=9Crubbed off=E2=9D or something weird. They are mounted (rubbed off) on to thin cardboard like paper. Anybody want these? ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:31:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "Codere, Glenn" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake From: Geordie Calvert Cornering the market? Ask Wes about his Jim Northrup collection! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:25:57 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations If you need a 1968 Phil Ortega, better grab it now! Looks like Geordie is cornering the market like that guy does with the 1964 Curt Flood! :-) On Tue, 8/4/15, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Thanks] Subject: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations To: "Thanks (OBC)" Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 2:58 AM gang. Hope everything is well in your corner of the Got home about 2 a.m. this morning, in bed by 3 or so, up at 8. Caught up on work that piled up while I was gone, and now it's time to put stuff away. Before I can do that, I have quite a few folks to thank for National handshakes. * Ron Perry: 1961 Post Podres and Larry Sherry. Thanks, Ron!* Sal Domino: 7 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a truly amazing assortment of OBC versions of great vintage sets, and some Gremlin cards. I'm sure I'll be needing some of those when I go to put cards away! Thanks, Sal!* Mark Zentkovich: 3 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a '68 Phil Ortega,and a couple of UV unmentionables. Thanks, Mark!* Joel Freedman: 4 hits to the 1968 set, including Phil Ortega. Thanks, Joel!* Mike Mackie: 3 hits to the 1968 set. Thanks, Mike!* T.J. Valacak: SCP nosebleeder to the '66 birthyear set. Thanks, T.J.! I sure hope you're feeling better soon.* Ray Luurs: 11 hits to the '68 set, including Al Kaline, Hoyt Wilhelm and Phil Ortega (are you seeing a theme here? ) Thanks, Ray!* Wes Shepard: a 1958 team emblem insert, which of course features the Dodgers. I didn't have one of these yet, so this'll go with my team set. Thanks, Wes!* George Vrechek: SCP to the '68 set... you know who! Thanks, George!* Taylor Schock: 5 hits to 3 football sets: Franco Harris, Ahmad Rashad, Joe DeLamielleure, L.C. Greenwood and Fred Biletnikoff. Thanks, Taylor!* Gary Mandell: SCP '63 Post Ron Fairly. Thanks, Gary!* Kent Goto: 2 hits to the new Bell Brands list - Carl Furillo and Stan Williams. Thanks, Kent!* Nick Pelletier: my other roomie hit my 1961 Post list twice - Hodges and Podres. Thanks, Nick!* Richard Dingman: 2 hits to the '68, including Phil Niekro. Thanks, Richard!* Larry Tipton: 7 hits to the Post lists: 4 from 1963 (including Drysdale) and 3 from 1961. Wow! Thanks, Guru!* Mark Talbot: 3 hits to the Bell Brands list and a 1962 Post of Daryl Spencer. Spencer's card has a handwritten addendum on the back which has his stats with the Reds and "Now playing in Japan" bio line. Thanks, Mark!* Steve Rittenberg: 12 hits to the '68 set, including a Batting Leaders card with Clemente, a Killebrew All-Star, a 6th series checklist with Frank Robby, plus two hits to the 1967 team card list and the action half of 1957 Topps footballer Jim Cason . Steve also achieves set-killer status by finding the last OBC-provided hit to the 1970 David Kolenda Memorial Set. Thanks so much, Steve!* Larry Gersbach: 1968 nosebleeder Bob Miller. Thanks, Gersh!* Jason Christopherson: got to meet Jason just before he left the show, but not before he hit my '68 list twice. Thanks, Jason!* Kevin Martens: SCP hit to the 1961 Post list. Thanks, Kevin!* Mike Rich: 4 hits to the '68 list, plus a great 1953 Red Man Dressen. Thanks, Mike!* Mac Wubben: Red Man hits to the '54 list (Snider) and '55 list (Erskine). Thanks, I had a fantastic time. Thanks again to everyone who took some time to look at my list. I truly appreciate it. ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:50:50 -0400 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations From: Wes Shepard Lmao,,, i will do a ramble about it after the dust from chicago settles. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:31 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Cornering the market? Ask Wes about his Jim Northrup collection! > From: "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: "OBC Ramblings" > Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:25:57 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations > If you need a 1968 Phil Ortega, better grab it now! Looks like Geordie iscornering the market like that guy does with the 1964 Curt Flood! :-) > Glenn > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 8/4/15, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Thanks] > Subject: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations > To: "Thanks (OBC)" > Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 2:58 AM > Hello, > gang. Hope everything is well in your corner of the > world. > Got home about > 2 a.m. this morning, in bed by 3 or so, up at 8. Caught up > on work that piled up while I was gone, and now it's > time to put stuff away. Before I can do that, I have quite > a few folks to thank for National handshakes. > * Ron Perry: 1961 Post Podres and > Larry Sherry. Thanks, Ron!* Sal Domino: 7 hits > to the 1975 team card wantlist, a truly amazing assortment > of OBC versions of great vintage sets, and some Gremlin > cards. I'm sure I'll be needing some of those when > I go to put cards away! Thanks, Sal!* Mark > Zentkovich: 3 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a '68 > Phil Ortega,and a couple of UV > unmentionables. Thanks, Mark!* Joel > Freedman: 4 hits to the 1968 set, including Phil Ortega. > Thanks, Joel!* Mike Mackie: 3 hits to the 1968 > set. Thanks, Mike!* T.J. Valacak: SCP > nosebleeder to the '66 birthyear set. Thanks, T.J.! > I sure hope you're feeling better soon.* > Ray Luurs: 11 hits to the '68 set, including Al Kaline, > Hoyt Wilhelm and Phil Ortega (are you seeing a theme here? > ) Thanks, Ray!* Wes Shepard: a 1958 > team emblem insert, which of course features the Dodgers. > I didn't have one of these yet, so this'll go with > my team set. Thanks, Wes!* George Vrechek: SCP > to the '68 set... you know who! Thanks, > George!* Taylor Schock: 5 hits to 3 football > sets: Franco Harris, Ahmad Rashad, Joe DeLamielleure, L.C. > Greenwood and Fred Biletnikoff. Thanks, > Taylor!* Gary Mandell: SCP '63 Post Ron > Fairly. Thanks, Gary!* Kent Goto: 2 hits to the > new Bell Brands list - Carl Furillo and Stan Williams. > Thanks, Kent!* Nick Pelletier: my other roomie > hit my 1961 Post list twice - Hodges and Podres. Thanks, > Nick!* Richard Dingman: 2 hits to the '68, > including Phil Niekro. Thanks, Richard!* Larry > Tipton: 7 hits to the Post lists: 4 from 1963 (including > Drysdale) and 3 from 1961. Wow! Thanks, > Guru!* Mark Talbot: 3 hits to the Bell Brands > list and a 1962 Post of Daryl Spencer. Spencer's card > has a handwritten addendum on the back which has his stats > with the Reds and "Now playing in Japan" bio line. > Thanks, Mark!* Steve Rittenberg: 12 hits to the > '68 set, including a Batting Leaders card with Clemente, > a Killebrew All-Star, a 6th series checklist with Frank > Robby, plus two hits to the 1967 team card list and the > action half of 1957 Topps footballer Jim Cason . Steve > also achieves set-killer status by finding the last > OBC-provided hit to the 1970 David Kolenda Memorial Set. > Thanks so much, Steve!* Larry Gersbach: 1968 > nosebleeder Bob Miller. Thanks, Gersh!* Jason > Christopherson: got to meet Jason just before he left the > show, but not before he hit my '68 list twice. Thanks, > Jason!* Kevin Martens: SCP hit to the 1961 Post > list. Thanks, Kevin!* Mike Rich: 4 hits to the > '68 list, plus a great 1953 Red Man Dressen. Thanks, > Mike!* Mac Wubben: Red Man hits to the '54 > list (Snider) and '55 list (Erskine). Thanks, > Mac! > I had a fantastic > time. Thanks again to everyone who took some time to look > at my list. I truly appreciate it. > Geordie ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 17:19:09 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , "" Subject: Crabby Thanks From: familytoad@comcast.net Time!
That's what I did the past couple days, with an incredible OBCvisit to Rick Lyons on Whidbey Island!!

Rick and his darling wife Roni hosted my impromptu vacation as I had a few days off and very hot 100 degrees weather here in SW WA last week.
Now let me tell you....even though it's less than 200 miles, it's not simple to get to.
I wanted to drive along the water (Hood Canal) rather than the highway (I-5) to slow the pace and maybe eat a few oysters along the way.

Arriving in Port Townsend on Friday afternoon, I was a short ferry ride but long ferry line away,and I contacted Rick about our potential visit. I heard Roni in the background exclaim"You'd better be ready to eat some crab!"
Oh yes, says I. Wewere all set for Saturday!

Finally getting to the Island Paradise ,they have an incredible beach home, directly on the Puget Sound with the proverbial views "to die for".
I liked it so much I stayed two days:-)
I was treated like royalty and I just cannot thank them enough for the food, the company and the hospitality! I got to meet Roni's sister Randi too.

Note that Rick's son is named Ross and that's a lot of R&R , LOL!

I learned Mexican Train Dominoes, I learned how to pull crab potsand watched how to clean the catch (nothing deadly here except to the waistline). I mostly watched Rick working really hard on relaxing...he's a milea minute tending to everything. And then we ate crab until we tired of cracking them (it's impossible to get "full" of fresh crab)

We stayed up late talking and visiting about life, cards, more cards, more life and had a most excellent time!

We even snuck in a breakfast visit with CoffeeDude Diamanti !
Mike is always entertaining, and a joy to be with aswell.
Thanks for the bag of Meteora, Mikeeeeee...it's fueling this IPADtyping :-)

I think I ate more crab these past couple days than I ever had before ...they just kept coming.
And since the hosts were so cordial,  I will try to keep *going* to Whidbey!
THANK YOU RICK!!

OBC Forever
Brian


Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 13:20:11 -0400 Subject: National Recap and thanks From: Mac Wubben Anybody tired of hearing national recaps yet? I didn't think so ;-). The national is the highlight of the collecting year...5 days or so of hanging around looking at baseball cards, meeting OBC'ers, talking to dealers, etc.What more could you ask for? The downsides were few...namely TJ and Genonot being able to make it...we missed you both. As always it's great to catch up with everyone, as well as meet some old friends for the first time.Not sure if I am breaking rules or not, but I do not keep detailed lists of who gives me what at the national...it's great to get cards from so manypeople, and I understand how tough my list is for those that couldn't findanything. Thanks to everyone for all the cards...hostess, kelloggs and the newly restarted 53B's were popular choices for contributions. I will send a special thanks out to Rittenberg for relentlessly tracking down hits tomy lists throughout the whole show...as always, he gave me too many cards and coaxed me into starting a new set (listing the matchbooks soon, I swear). The wife and sister-in-law were in tow, so that limited my show time a bit, as well as eased the pressure on the wallet. Great weather for the most part (dodged the hail storm by about 15 seconds on the last day...yikes)and great company all around. The biggest card pickups of the show were at213 type 3 of McGraw and T216's of Bender and Marquard (thanks to Tim N on the Marquard). The swap is always a fun, though I don't get to dig in the boxes like I did 15 years ago. It's great to see us all together...sporting our new maroon OBC shirts (thanks Aaron S). Pretty soon we are going to have OBC uniforms for each day of the swap...I don't know if that will enhance our reputation or hurt it ;-) Anyways...thanks everyone for a great time...and looking forward to Atlantic City next year! ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 18:17:02 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: National report From: Geordie Calvert Good morning, all. So this was my first National since Anaheim in 2006 and third overall. Since making the decision to fly out to Chicago I had been on pins and needles in anticipation. My goals were pretty simple: first and foremost, renew acquaintances with old friends and make some new ones, and then hunt down someold cardboard. Both missions 100% accomplished. Over the course of the show I met 20 current and former OBCers and knocked out four vintage sets and started two more. My favorite hangout spot was definitely at Kurt Tourdot'stable - I'll bet everyone else that was there would say the same thing. I must have stopped there at least three times a day to look through more boxes and meet up with various members of OBC. I didn't take any notes, so this recap comes from a somewhat foggy memory. I took a red-eye out of San Francisco on Wednesday night and arrived at O'Hare at 4:30 a.m. Thursday morning. Caught the shuttle over to the Comfort Inn, where I was rooming with Nick P. and Wes. Hung around downstairs until they started serving breakfast at 6. While I was eating, Nick called to make sure I had arrived safely and then came downstairs to show me to our room. Dumped my bags off and talked with Nick until I could catch the 8:10 shuttle over to the Convention Center. Nick stayed to wait for Wes to arrive. Used a dealer badge to get in at 8:30 (thanks, Steve!) and started wanderingthe aisles until Kurt could arrive and get set up. As always, so much to see. I had decided early on that this was going to be a no-pressure show. Again, my main goal was to just enjoy the company of friends in our group andsome other guys I have been wanting to meet from the PSA boards. Cardboardwas to be consumed at a leisurely pace. By 9:00 most dealers had arrived and mostly set up. Headed over to Kurt's and started meeting people. I don't know remember everyone I met on Thursday, but there were many. Started my first foray into Kurt's many bargain boxes. I'm sure I pulled some stuff, but didn't write down what I found early on. If I had to name one main cardboard goal, it was to finish up my "David Kolenda Memorial" 1970 baseball set. I was five cards short, and quickly found a Seaver, leaving me with the Oscar Gamble RC, Bench, Ryan and the Pilots TC. I let the guys know who I needed to finish, and as is always the case with these two, Steve and Ken kept their eyes open. Most of the rest of Thursday was spent either walking around and taking notes of places I needed to go back and visit, hanging out numerous times at Kurt and Jerry's table, or standing around the BBCE booth meeting people from the PSA boards. I have established some pretty good online relationships with many people there and was really looking forward to putting faces to screen names. Had a really good time with those guys. Anyway, one of the places I decided to stop for more than note taking was Mike Peich's table. He was showing with former OBC member, Tim Newcomb. Mike had a couple small stacks of T-3, one of which had Bill Bergen on top. Now, I've always admired the T-3s - it's an absolute gorgeous set - I had never seriously consideredactually owning one, though. They weren't even a blip on my radar prior tothe show. So I ask to see it and ask Mike what he can do on it. He knocks off 25%, and now I'm the super-proud owner of my first T-3. I couldn't havebeen happier. What a beautiful card! I couldn't stop taking it out of backpack to show to anyone who was nearby. After the show closed for the day, I was absolutely drained. I'd been up since 6 a.m. the previous day and was in sore need of some rest. Yeah, right.I think I finally made it to bed around 2 a.m. Friday. Spent a long time talking in the room with Nick and Wes. Nick fell asleep right after asking adeep philosophical question, but Wes and I stayed up talking about a lot of different things. If you haven't spent time with Wes, you must do so at some point. He's a really knowledgeable dude - I had a LOT of fun getting toknow him over the course of the show. Nick and Wes decided to let me sleep, which I was grateful for. I had been up almost two days and badly needed the rest. Headed over to the show around 10:30 or so. Met up with a good friend who lives about a half hour away from me. Walked around for 90 minutes or so with him and his son, just taking it all in. Made some more notes on places to stop and paused to meet and greet anyone wearing OBC apparel. Seems like we were everywhere! At some point I made it back to Kurt's table and picked up the Bench for the DKM 1970set - down to three. Got a text from Steve not too long after that - he had located the Pilot's team card - down to two! Not too long after that I got a couple texts from Ken: Ryan was located at Dean's for $20 and then Gamble for $5 a short time later. The 1970 set is done! Set killer status to Steve for the Pilots TC. For those that don't know the back story on the '70 set, here goes: in the earlier years of OBC, a bunch of us used to chat nightly on ICQ. We traded stories, .wav sound files (anyone remember Barry Clesh's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeefile?), and chatted about lots of stuff. One night we got to talking aboutsets we thought were ugly, and I quickly responded: 1970 Topps! Thought itwas ugly then, still think it's pretty ugly now. Well, about a week later I get a box from longtime member David Kolenda - it contained a 1970 starter set, probably 350 cards or so. Called him up to give him the business - he had a good laugh at my expense! As the old-timers know, we lost David to cancer in September 2007. David was a great friend to all of us, and is still greatly missed. I'm glad I had the opportunity to meet him at the last Vegas get together in 2005. Some time after, I decided to complete the set, auction it off and donate the winning bid to cancer research. Eight years later, it's finally finished. Right now I'm planning on sending it to PWCC and have them auction it off. They get a TON of eyeballs on their auctions and will surely get a better bid than if I was to auction it off myself. Okay, back to the show. Pretty much a repeat of Thursday: wander around, look at stuff, talk to OBCers, hang out at Kurt and Jerry's. Attended the PSAluncheon with some of that crowd. Had a good meal and watched awards beingpresented for some truly amazing collections. I know that we all prefer the well-loved stuff and don't care for anything in a slab, but some of thoseguys have jaw-dropping collections. Pretty sure I finished off the 1972 baseball set and 1970 football set on Friday. I know the '70 football set was finished then, because Jerry found both variations of the Calvin Hill RC for $6 total. I think I also finished off the '75 football set on Friday as well - some dealer across the room had the last five I needed. I also stopped back at Mike Peich's table. What'sbetter than one T-3? Two T-3s, of course! It cost me quite a bit more thanthe Bergen, but nevertheless a deal was struck for Bill Dahlen. Woohoo!! Finished the day at the Net54 dinner and a couple cold ones at the Hilton bar with some of the PSA crowd. Made it back to the room around 12:30 and then stayed up until at least 3 a.m. talking with Wes. Wash, rinse, repeat. Walk around, rifle through more of Kurt and Jerry's $0.50 and 8% boxes, chat with OBCers. Made it over to Mike McCann's table anddid some damage to the lists. Went back to Peich's table - I had my eye ona third T-3, this one in a 1.5 SGC slab. Say what you will about slabbed cards, but vintage looks dynamite in an SGC holder. That black background really helps show the card off. Alas, T-3 #3 was not to be - it had been purchased by someone else earlier in the day. Oh well, no biggie. Left the showaround 4:30 to get some rest. Walked down to a liquor store with Wes to grab some beer for the swap and went downstairs with Nick and Wes around 7:00or so. People and cardboard everywhere! The evening was a blur, but I did come home with some great stuff: two books and a master set of 1981 Scratch-Off from Aaron, some saki 'shot' glasses from Mark Talbot's auction (Leroux, Leroux, Leroux!!), a great picture featuring Mantle and Aaron. Pulled a few cards here and there from various boxes, including some Kellogg's from McCann's "Mendoza" boxes and my first two 1953 Bowman Color from Wes' box. Nick informed me that if I have at least two cards of any set I am obligated to start collecting it. So be it - I'm adding the '53 BC set to my list. All in all, the swap session was a lot of fun. Great conversation, great pizza and cardboard. I'd call that a winning combination. My Sunday goal? Bide my time until it was time to go to the airport. I'm beyond drained and really not looking for much. I grabbed two ragged '53 Color high numbers for $1 total at (I think) Ron Estes' table, plus a few random hits to '78 football and the team card subsets. Went back to Kurt's and grabbed all 12 of his $2 Colors, plus a few from his 8%-off box. Did the same with a group of high numbers from Jerry. I recalled an earlier conversation with Nick regarding Jerry. He said that Jerry always seemed to verbally wrestle with himself regarding OBC pricing. He'd come up with the price that was marked, discount it, and then debate with himself about a further discount. Sure enough, that was the case with my small lot of Colors. Price, discount, further discount. I didn't have to say a word - just let Jerry do his Left the show for good around 2:30. Caught a hotel shuttle to the airport, with a nice little thunder, wind and hail storm beating a LOUD staccato on the roof of the van. Tree limbs down everywhere, trash cans in the middle of traffic, cars stopping under overpasses and refusing to pull forward - all in all a pretty interesting drive! Got home at 2 a.m. on the nose, spent some time with my wife and dogs, finally making it to bed around 3. I think that about does it. I think I just wrote a "Morganti"!. Special thanks to roomies Nick and Wes - had a fantastic time getting to know you guys. Thanks to everyone for their handshakes, especially the ones where an actual handshake took place. Again, meeting and hanging out with friends was what I really came for. Cardboard is great, but friendships are worth way more than cardboard will ever be. It was great seeing some old faces (Steve, Ken, Sal, Kent, Mike, Mark, Ray, Gersh, Kevin) and getting to know some newfriends. I had a fantastic time, and can't wait to do this again someday. ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:25:03 -0700 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations From: Glenn Codere Tell us more about the Silver Fox, Wes! ! :-) Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Date:Tue, 4 Aug, 2015 at 17:31 Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations Cornering the market? Ask Wes about his Jim Northrup collection! From: "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 2:25:57 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations If you need a 1968 Phil Ortega, better grab it now! Looks like Geordie is cornering the market like that guy does with the 1964 Curt Flood! :-) On Tue, 8/4/15, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Thanks] Subject: [OBC-Thanks] National handshake appreciations To: "Thanks (OBC)" Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2015, 2:58 AM gang. Hope everything is well in your corner of the Got home about 2 a.m. this morning, in bed by 3 or so, up at 8. Caught up on work that piled up while I was gone, and now it's time to put stuff away. Before I can do that, I have quite a few folks to thank for National handshakes. * Ron Perry: 1961 Post Podres and Larry Sherry. Thanks, Ron!* Sal Domino: 7 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a truly amazing assortment of OBC versions of great vintage sets, and some Gremlin cards. I'm sure I'll be needing some of those when I go to put cards away! Thanks, Sal!* Mark Zentkovich: 3 hits to the 1975 team card wantlist, a '68 Phil Ortega,and a couple of UV unmentionables. Thanks, Mark!* Joel Freedman: 4 hits to the 1968 set, including Phil Ortega. Thanks, Joel!* Mike Mackie: 3 hits to the 1968 set. Thanks, Mike!* T.J. Valacak: SCP nosebleeder to the '66 birthyear set. Thanks, T.J.! I sure hope you're feeling better soon.* Ray Luurs: 11 hits to the '68 set, including Al Kaline, Hoyt Wilhelm and Phil Ortega (are you seeing a theme here? ) Thanks, Ray!* Wes Shepard: a 1958 team emblem insert, which of course features the Dodgers. I didn't have one of these yet, so this'll go with my team set. Thanks, Wes!* George Vrechek: SCP to the '68 set... you know who! Thanks, George!* Taylor Schock: 5 hits to 3 football sets: Franco Harris, Ahmad Rashad, Joe DeLamielleure, L.C. Greenwood and Fred Biletnikoff. Thanks, Taylor!* Gary Mandell: SCP '63 Post Ron Fairly. Thanks, Gary!* Kent Goto: 2 hits to the new Bell Brands list - Carl Furillo and Stan Williams. Thanks, Kent!* Nick Pelletier: my other roomie hit my 1961 Post list twice - Hodges and Podres. Thanks, Nick!* Richard Dingman: 2 hits to the '68, including Phil Niekro. Thanks, Richard!* Larry Tipton: 7 hits to the Post lists: 4 from 1963 (including Drysdale) and 3 from 1961. Wow! Thanks, Guru!* Mark Talbot: 3 hits to the Bell Brands list and a 1962 Post of Daryl Spencer. Spencer's card has a handwritten addendum on the back which has his stats with the Reds and "Now playing in Japan" bio line. Thanks, Mark!* Steve Rittenberg: 12 hits to the '68 set, including a Batting Leaders card with Clemente, a Killebrew All-Star, a 6th series checklist with Frank Robby, plus two hits to the 1967 team card list and the action half of 1957 Topps footballer Jim Cason . Steve also achieves set-killer status by finding the last OBC-provided hit to the 1970 David Kolenda Memorial Set. Thanks so much, Steve!* Larry Gersbach: 1968 nosebleeder Bob Miller. Thanks, Gersh!* Jason Christopherson: got to meet Jason just before he left the show, but not before he hit my '68 list twice. Thanks, Jason!* Kevin Martens: SCP hit to the 1961 Post list. Thanks, Kevin!* Mike Rich: 4 hits to the '68 list, plus a great 1953 Red Man Dressen. Thanks, Mike!* Mac Wubben: Red Man hits to the '54 list (Snider) and '55 list (Erskine). Thanks, I had a fantastic time. Thanks again to everyone who took some time to look at my list. I truly appreciate it. ================= Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 20:52:44 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Post National Wantlists and a question From: smartalecx@aol.com My goal was to hit a few lists hard, and I did pretty well. Several have only one or two left, plus I started a whole new set. I am starting the 1962 Post Cereal Football set. I picked up a nice starter set, so here is my wantlist: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 96, 97, 98, 99, 101, 102, 103, 104, 106, 107, 108, 110, 111, 112, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 152, 153, 154, 155, 157, 158, 159, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 169, 170, 171, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 179, 181, 182, 183, 184, 186, 188, 190, 191, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 200 Question: While the SCD doesn't show it, Beckett shows some cards (e.g. #57) with a black and a red version. I suspect that means that the name on some cards is printed in red, but could someone please confirm? There are a couple of other wantlists that I wanted to try to complete: 1965 topps baseball: need # 22 charlies smith in EXMT/NM condition with very good centering, strong corners, no creases, writing or paper loss 1973 topps baseball: need #257 with brown background, and # 497 with bright orange background any help would be appreciated Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 06:35:07 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Guru T206 Report From: LAWRENCE TIPTON This years National is over, my wantlist took a beating, but it=E2=99s now updated. All my cards are all put away, except for a stack of Hassan T29Animal cards that Taylor and Steve gave me. I still need to checklist these and add them to my wantlist. I wanted to give a quick report on my T206 set progress. This was my main focus at this years show, and let me tell you off grade T206 cards were EVERYWHERE! At the National I added 45 T206 hits, including 14 Hall of Famers, and 12 Southern Leaguers. I=E2=99m still not 100% sure what constitutes a full set LOL but I think that number is 520 since I will never acquire the =E2=9CBIG FOUR=E2=9D Wagner, Plank, Doyle NY and Magie error card. Note I did see a PSA 1 Magie error card at $5,000=E2=A6=E2=A6. I have in my binder 487 different T206 cards, so it looks like I need just 33 more to complete my set. I think I counted that I need 8 HOFers (three Cobbs), 8 Southern Leaguers, 9 commons, and 8 others that are priced somewhere in the middle. I guess you could say the T206 bug bit me BIG time! It=E2=99s funny withall these vintage cards here, I always pull out the T206 binder! Progress should slow down soon, but I see myself upgrading cards for many years to come, and of course there are always those different backs:) I think that off grade T206 cards are a good value, dare I say =E2=9Ccheap=E2=99? According to my brand new Standard Catalog, T206 commons book for $550 in NM condition. Common T206 cards in off condition are readily available for $15 each or 2.7% now that=E2=99s a number any OBCer can livewith don=E2=99t you think? What a great time I had this year in Chicago! ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:05:44 -0400 To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Common? No. From: Wes Shepard I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white and blue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make me a stronger collector and hobbyist. The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate the70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That is, forunder 30 freakin bucks). I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards,high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popular rose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that people think that.) Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurttourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackenedwith ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I deal with drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'm notsure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set ever!" "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" "Nah, its too much" "Well what is it? What set?" "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , i will find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So you get the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me. Andyou know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cards themselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him. It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. Search & Destroy. It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss being executed in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. Theissue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rock for 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513, mays, 544 vida blue...." "Whats that?" "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" "Oh ya..... That basically it?" "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" "Huh? What Wes, what?" " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" "What? The rose?" "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" "Who is that?" "I dont know!" ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissedme off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But that wasonly the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all types couldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his 1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i kept looking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707, korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No! This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know how the binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is a void space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, the boxes "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set! Wanna "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" "Well no, let me see." This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 set. "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What didyou ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. It later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to be ultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:09:01 -0400 To: Wes Shepard Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: Wes Shepard Hope it wasnt too long of a read. Sorry for the curses Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white and blue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make me astronger collector and hobbyist. > The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate the 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That is, for under 30 freakin bucks). > I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. > Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popular rose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that people think that.) > Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I dealwith drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'm not sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set ever!" > "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" > "Nah, its too much" > "Well what is it? What set?" > "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" > "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" > "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , iwill find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." > .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So youget the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me. And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. > Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cardsthemselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him. It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. > Search & Destroy. > It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss being executed in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. > "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." > "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rock for 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513, mays, 544 vida blue...." > "Whats that?" > "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" > "Oh ya..... That basically it?" > "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" > "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." > "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" > "Huh? What Wes, what?" > " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" > "What? The rose?" > "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" > "Who is that?" > "I dont know!" > ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But that was only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all typescouldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i kept looking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707,korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No! This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ > All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know how the binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is avoid space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, the boxes too. > "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set! Wanna > "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" > "Well no, let me see." > This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 set. > "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What did you do!"sS > d > ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. It later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to beultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. > Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it > xdQ ================= Date: 05 Aug 2015 11:12:19 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Common? No. From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:35:37 -0400 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Common? No. From: Joel Freedman Dude, Nick told me the story Friday morning, it took me longer to find you in Chicago than it did to find the 71 Norhrup black beauty at the show! Scan a copy of all your Northrup pages and we can save it in the archives at yahoo ramblings! On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 2:12 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Wes told me this story in person 2 days ago and it's even funnier in print. > Tom ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:47:39 -0500 To: Wes Shepard Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: OBC Nick P I have got to say that is about as accurate as it can get. I only see one omission.....my laughing at how pissed off Wes was becoming du in pry to mylaughter. What a nothing card but it makes a 66 grant Jackson look easy. It was quite an interesting adventure looking for that Northrup. It's a story the finally Wes can laugh about and I laugh about every time I talk to him. I'm starting to laugh now. People at work are beginning to look at me so......good of luck jimmy. Nick Pelletier > On Aug 5, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white and blue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make me astronger collector and hobbyist. > The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate the 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That is, for under 30 freakin bucks). > I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. > Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popular rose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that people think that.) > Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I dealwith drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'm not sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set ever!" > "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" > "Nah, its too much" > "Well what is it? What set?" > "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" > "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" > "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , iwill find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." > .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So youget the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me. And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. > Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cardsthemselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him. It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. > Search & Destroy. > It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss being executed in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. > "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." > "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rock for 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513, mays, 544 vida blue...." > "Whats that?" > "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" > "Oh ya..... That basically it?" > "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" > "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." > "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" > "Huh? What Wes, what?" > " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" > "What? The rose?" > "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" > "Who is that?" > "I dont know!" > ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But that was only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all typescouldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i kept looking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707,korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No! This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ > All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know how the binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is avoid space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, the boxes too. > "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set! Wanna > "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" > "Well no, let me see." > This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 set. > "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What did you do!"sS > d > ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. It later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to beultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. > Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it > xdQ ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 15:18:23 -0500 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: Mark Z So wes...how many 71 northrup do you have now? Mark Z Sent from mark z ipod On Aug 5, 2015, at 2:47 PM, "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I have got to say that is about as accurate as it can get. I only see one omission.....my laughing at how pissed off Wes was becoming du in pry to my laughter. What a nothing card but it makes a 66 grant Jackson look easy. > It was quite an interesting adventure looking for that Northrup. It's a story the finally Wes can laugh about and I laugh about every time I talk to > I'm starting to laugh now. People at work are beginning to look at me so......good of luck jimmy. > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > On Aug 5, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white andblue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make me a stronger collector and hobbyist. >> The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate the 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That is, for under 30 freakin bucks). >> I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. >> Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popularrose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that people think that.) >> Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I deal with drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'm not sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set ever!" >> "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" >> "Nah, its too much" >> "Well what is it? What set?" >> "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" >> "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" >> "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , i will find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." >> .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So you get the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me. And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. >> Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cards themselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him. It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. >> Search & Destroy. >> It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss beingexecuted in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. >> "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." >> "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rockfor 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513,mays, 544 vida blue...." >> "Whats that?" >> "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" >> "Oh ya..... That basically it?" >> "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" >> "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." >> "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" >> "Huh? What Wes, what?" >> " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" >> "What? The rose?" >> "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" >> "Who is that?" >> "I dont know!" >> ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But that was only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all types couldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his 1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i keptlooking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707, korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No!This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ >> All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know howthe binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is a void space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, the boxes too. >> "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set!Wanna >> "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" >> "Well no, let me see." >> This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 set. >> "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What did you do!"sS >> d >> ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. It later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to be ultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. >> Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it >> xdQ ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 16:49:20 -0400 To: Mark Z Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: Wes Shepard Until I have 265, i consider myself having 1. But, the real number now is 85. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Mark Z wrote: > So wes...how many 71 northrup do you have now? > Mark Z > Sent from mark z ipod >> On Aug 5, 2015, at 2:47 PM, "OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> I have got to say that is about as accurate as it can get. I only see one omission.....my laughing at how pissed off Wes was becoming du in pry tomy laughter. What a nothing card but it makes a 66 grant Jackson look easy. >> It was quite an interesting adventure looking for that Northrup. It's astory the finally Wes can laugh about and I laugh about every time I talk to >> I'm starting to laugh now. People at work are beginning to look at me so......good of luck jimmy. >> Nick Pelletier >> Nachobcards@yahoo.com >>> On Aug 5, 2015, at 1:05 PM, Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white and blue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make mea stronger collector and hobbyist. >>> The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice ofmany obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicatethe 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That is,for under 30 freakin bucks). >>> I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. >>> Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popular rose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate thatpeople think that.) >>> Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and shortprints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and monthsgo by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I deal with drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'mnot sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! Thereit is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set ever!" >>> "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" >>> "Nah, its too much" >>> "Well what is it? What set?" >>> "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" >>> "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why thehell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" >>> "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well ,i will find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." >>> .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So you get the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doablesets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me.And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. >>> Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cards themselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him.It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. >>> Search & Destroy. >>> It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss being executed in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards.The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. >>> "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." >>> "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rock for 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513, mays, 544 vida blue...." >>> "Whats that?" >>> "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" >>> "Oh ya..... That basically it?" >>> "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" >>> "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." >>> "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" >>> "Huh? What Wes, what?" >>> " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" >>> "What? The rose?" >>> "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" >>> "Who is that?" >>> "I dont know!" >>> ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But thatwas only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all types couldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his 1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i kept looking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707, korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No! This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ >>> All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps#265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know how the binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell isa void space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, the boxes too. >>> "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set! Wanna look?" >>> "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" >>> "Well no, let me see." >>> This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 set. >>> "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! Whatdid you do!"sS >>> d >>> ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. Itlater evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to be ultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. >>> Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it >>> xdQ ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 13:54:24 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: Meet up From: Rick Me and my wife bought a little rough cabin on whidbey island last summer and I have been remodeling it every weekend since. I have been staying there five or six days a week this summer and the work is mainly done for now. Sothe timing for visitors is finally upon us. Brian Lindholme called said he was thinking of stopping by and I said when and he said tomorrow. In his defense he did warn me a few weeks back but I thought it was going to be this week. The timing still worked out I said sure but you have to help me eat a bunch of crab. I took him out in my littlealuminum boat to pull the pots and showed him what to do. I stood up in the boat and started pulling in the rope got it up and crab out of it. We went to the next pot and I said your turn. He sat down and tried pulling the rope struggled a little bit but got it up. I told him if you stand up it is easier and he said a person from Vermont can't stand in the boat. I'll get him out there a few more times then he'll get his sea legs. I dug some clams the day before so I couldn't give him clam digging 101 but maybe next time. We made clam strips,clam chowder and more crab the second day. HopefullyI gave him his sea food fill for a few days. He said he really likes oysters and I usually trade some crab to the neighbor for some so hopefully I can set that up next time. We meet up with Mike Diamanti for breakfast one morning good to see him he kept us laughing. I didn't get to the national to meet all you but settled for seeing the northwest group minus Dave instead. As always great to get together with Brian highlight of my cardboard world can't wait till next time. Brian also gave me two of the last three red hearts I needed fox and lollar. Sent from my iPad ================= To: "obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:51:59 -0400 Subject: Yet another National Thanks and Summary (long ramble) From: Taylor Schock Had another great time at the National due to great company (OBCers, Net54ers, and others), great roommates (Guru and Spike), great cards (some bought, some just viewed), great swap, great dealers, and a newly oxygenated blood system. I finished a few sets and hit on 6 of 8 goals. 1 ) N2 (A&G American Indian Chiefs) Red Cloud - A BIG thanks to Mr Rittenberg on this one, who felt guilty for not speaking up sooner when I picked upone way above my average set condition and he mentioned another dealer in NS cards might have one, which he did and bought FOR me. Fortunately the folks at Tik N Tik cards could not have been better in allowing me to return the card I bought just an hour earlier. I have dealt with them before and they are GREAT people. A HUGE thanks to Steve for killing my first 19th century 2 ) T205s - Yeah, picked up a few. Probably about 15 (I'm still going through my cards). 3 ) Yuenglings - Got 1 from Chandy at a GREAT price of $20. It was actuallya Harrington but those will do as 'fillers'. 4 ) 1956 Topps Whitey Ford (VG-ish) - Kurt couldn't pull this one out soon enough, which he got from Jerry as he knew I was looking for one. 5 ) 1951 Topps Red Backs #52 (Holmes Boston) - FAIL! There probably was onebut it was back-burnered all week. 6 ) Some chips to 1967, 1963, and 1961 Topps - FAIL! What can I say. The prices and what I need put me in the 'meh' interest category to complete these. 7 ) digging through non-sports stuff, if the price is right - Yes and yes. '70s Wacky Packages (Series 1-15) for 21 cents apiece? Sure, I'll take all 168 of them for $35. T cards, R cards, and others here and there. Again, thanks to Steve for some dealer scum toughies AND some gratis swap cards on multiple 8 ) everything under the sun - Not everything, but a good selection of stuff I wasn't looking for. A '34 Goudey Charlie Grimm and Dave Harris, a '40 Playball Jake Solters, and a '30s Diamond Stars Jimmy Wilson blue back, ALL 4 for $5! Hey, a deal is a deal! My new found calling at the National though is spending other people's money. I pulled Guru over to a number of tables with T206 deals, in which he was happy to oblige by opening his wallet. I also provided Spike with a twistto his #5 collection, a basketball card that clearly showed the #5 jersey in all 3 photos on the card. Please feel free to help Spike out on his new quest of #5 jersey cards. ;) Hey, what are roommates for? Handshake thankseses, in no particular order, and hopefully reasonably accurate. Larry Tipton - a sweet looking T206 Schmidt. I guess he has too many of these. Nick Pelletier - a nice 3-pack of '57 Topps FB Cleveland Browns cards. Kent Goto - an SCP '52 Topps of NY Giants great Monford Irvin. Sal Domino - a tough Conlon color of Babe Ruth for that insert set and a pack of OBC cards that contain some of the OBC greats of the collecting world(along with a stick of gum). Steve Rittenberg - a mixed bag of a 1/2 dozen Horrors of War along with a stack of '50s Topps FB cards. And his usual assortment of non sports swap-a-bilia. Mac Wubben - a great Forrest Cady T205 minor leaguer. I'm getting down to the real dear ones now. Richard Dingman - a 4 pack of Horrors of War cards. Spike Glidden - an A&G Cal Ripken and a '63 stat back Whitey Ford. George Vrecheck - a sweet SCP '58 FB of Rick Casares. Mark Talbot - 3 Exhibits, 3 Fables, '69 4-in-1, '67 Philly Johnny U, '55 Bowman Rick Casares. Joel Freedman - 8 Jerome Bettis, a Studio Preview, some Charlies Angels, and 2 Superman stickers. Mike Rich - a '69 Milton Bradley Klages (a toughie), a '62 Kunkel greenie, and a '57 FB Csudero. Gary Mandell - a nice SCP of '58 Topps FB Billy Wilson. Wes Sheppard - a Lou Brock collection hit with a '65 Topps. Ron Perry - a pair of Redmans with a '54 Gilliam and a '55 Piersall. Jason Cristopherson - a '63 Exhibit stat back Leon Wagner. Mike Mackie - some welcome '63 Topps upgrades. (my only '63 Topps show hits?) Kevin Martens - a great '64 Topps Nelson Mathews upgrade. Mark Zentkovich - for 3 different '67 FB hits, a Ripken, and a pair of Brocks. Larry Gersbach - a nice '54 Topps upgrade of Alex Grammas. Ken Morganti(?) - a half dozen Redman hits at the swap. TJ Valacak - for a real trooper handshake of 4 skeds, a Kelloggs Walter Johnson, and a '55 Bowman Ray Wietecha. We missed you at the show, TJ. But more important, GET WELL SOON! If I missed anyone, PLEASE let me know. The real interesting thing about the above, and as it relates to other items I picked up at the show? While I ended up with 3 different Rick Casares cards, I don't think I got ANY dupes? I know there were no dupes in the handshakes, and I don't think anything above was duped by anything I bought at the show. That is amazing! All in all, I 'think' I finished 7 sets (to be verified) but I KNOW I only started one new one (to be named later). Time to start digging through cards, putting them away, and updating my now smaller want lists! ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:29:52 -0400 To: Wes Shepard Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: Wes Shepard Thanks for all the positive reviews! Sorry for the typos, i hit send instead of save as draft. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Wes Shepard wrote: > Hope it wasnt too long of a read. Sorry for the curses > Wes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 5, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white andblue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make me a stronger collector and hobbyist. >> The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate the 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That is, for under 30 freakin bucks). >> I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. >> Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popularrose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that people think that.) >> Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I deal with drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'm not sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set ever!" >> "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" >> "Nah, its too much" >> "Well what is it? What set?" >> "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" >> "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" >> "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , i will find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." >> .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So you get the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me. And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. >> Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cards themselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him. It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. >> Search & Destroy. >> It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss beingexecuted in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. >> "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." >> "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rockfor 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513,mays, 544 vida blue...." >> "Whats that?" >> "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" >> "Oh ya..... That basically it?" >> "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" >> "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." >> "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" >> "Huh? What Wes, what?" >> " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" >> "What? The rose?" >> "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" >> "Who is that?" >> "I dont know!" >> ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But that was only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all types couldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his 1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i keptlooking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707, korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No!This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ >> All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know howthe binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is a void space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, the boxes too. >> "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set!Wanna >> "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" >> "Well no, let me see." >> This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 set. >> "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What did you do!"sS >> d >> ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. It later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to be ultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. >> Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it >> xdQ ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:36:03 -0400 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: Joel Freedman We have a lot more to find to reach 265!! On Wednesday, August 5, 2015, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm sitting in front of my PC laughing my head off at this. Brilliant!! > I only have one question..........there's a '71 Northrup variation?????? > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com > [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > *To:* Ramblings (OBC) > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 5, 2015 7:05 PM > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. > I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white and > blue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the > cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was > only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting > would make me a stronger collector and hobbyist. > The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of > many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate > the 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick > Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That > is, for under 30 freakin bucks). > I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how > some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. > Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, > stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, > high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popular > rose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that > people think that.) > Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met > kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short > prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being > blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and > months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient > man. I deal with drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how > to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short > of it, I'm not sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, > "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and > awesomest set ever!" > "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" > "Nah, its too much" > "Well what is it? What set?" > "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" > "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the > hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" > "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , i > will find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." > .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So you > get the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable > sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i > really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to > me. And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. > Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cards > themselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago > national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried > on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 > Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled > him. It was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. > Search & Destroy. > It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss being > executed in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. > The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We > got the list down to about a dirty dozen. > "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra > soda. No worries buddy." > "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rock > for 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513, > mays, 544 vida blue...." > "Whats that?" > "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" > "Oh ya..... That basically it?" > "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you > know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of > time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" > "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." > "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" > "Huh? What Wes, what?" > " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" > "What? The rose?" > "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" > "Who is that?" > "I dont know!" > ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just > pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my > efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But > that was only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all > types couldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell > me his 1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... Soi > kept looking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings > of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, > 707, korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! > No! This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ > All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps > #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know how > the binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know > how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is > a void space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a > one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a > voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes, > the boxes too. > "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set! > Wanna look?" > "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" > "Well no, let me see." > This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the > desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 > set. > "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What > did you do!"sS > d > ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. > So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until > acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim > northrup. It later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever > printed. All to be ultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using > fire. > Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was > for me. I hope it > xdQ ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 19:40:18 -0400 To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: tj update From: smartalecx@aol.com i had the pleasure of visiting with TJ VALACAK for an hour this morning. haven't seen him for a while, and if you didn't know it, you wouldn't think anything was the matter. only the IV in his arm, and the fact that it might take him 10 seconds instead of the usual 5 to kick my ass were all i noticed as different. delivered several handshakes that i collected at the swap, and we shared some good stories. and he was happy to be heading home today. so my thanks today is to who, what or why ever TJ has fought off this latest setback, and is back in the arms of his family. and to TJ himself for continuing to fight the fight! Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: "'Rick'" , Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:04:07 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet up From: "Grant Rainsley" Try prawns....those little critters are 300-350 feet down..instead of 15-20 for a crab trap...that's where you learn to stand up when you pull the trap......you have a chance at staying alive at the end of the pull....and how can Diamanti do anything except keep people laughing....it's in his From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:54 PM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet up Me and my wife bought a little rough cabin on whidbey island last summer and I have been remodeling it every weekend since. I have been staying there five or six days a week this summer and the work is mainly done for now. So the timing for visitors is finally upon us. Brian Lindholme called said he was thinking of stopping by and I said when and he said tomorrow. In his defense he did warn me a few weeks back but I thought it was going to be this week. The timing still worked out I said sure but you have to help me eat a bunch of crab. I took him out in my little aluminum boat to pull the pots and showed him what to do. I stood up in the boat and started pulling in the rope got it up and crab out of it. We went to the next pot and I said your turn. He sat down and tried pulling the rope struggled a little bit but got it up. I told him if you stand up it is easier and he said a person from Vermont can't stand in the boat. I'll get him out there a few more times then he'll get his sea legs. I dug some clams the day before so I couldn't give him clam digging 101 but maybe next time. We made clam strips,clam chowder and more crab the second day. Hopefully I gave him his sea food fill for a few days. He said he really likes oysters and I usually trade some crab to the neighbor for some so hopefully I can set that up next time. We meet up with Mike Diamanti for breakfast one morning good to see him he kept us laughing. I didn't get to the national to meet all you but settled for seeing the northwest group minus Dave instead. As always great to get together with Brian highlight of my cardboard world can't wait till next time. Brian also gave me two of the last three red hearts I needed fox and lollar. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:26:08 -0700 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet up From: Rick In his defense I crab in 50-60 ft. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:04 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Try prawns=E2=A6=E2=A6..those little critters are 300-350 feet down=E2=A6=E2=A6instead of 15-20 for a crab trap=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6that=E2=99s where you learn to stand up when you pull the trap=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..you have a chance at staying alive at the end of the pull=E2=A6=E2=A6..and how can Diamanti do anything except keep people laughing=E2=A6=E2=A6..it=E2=99s in his nature. > Grant > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 1:54 PM > To: obc ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Meet up > Me and my wife bought a little rough cabin on whidbey island last summer and I have been remodeling it every weekend since. I have been staying there five or six days a week this summer and the work is mainly done for now. So the timing for visitors is finally upon us. > Brian Lindholme called said he was thinking of stopping by and I said when and he said tomorrow. In his defense he did warn me a few weeks back but I thought it was going to be this week. The timing still worked out I said sure but you have to help me eat a bunch of crab. I took him out in my little aluminum boat to pull the pots and showed him what to do. I stood up in the boat and started pulling in the rope got it up and crab out of it. We went to the next pot and I said your turn. He sat down and tried pulling therope struggled a little bit but got it up. I told him if you stand up it is easier and he said a person from Vermont can't stand in the boat. I'll get him out there a few more times then he'll get his sea legs. I dug some clams the day before so I couldn't give him clam digging 101 but maybe next time. We made clam strips,clam chowder and more crab the second day. Hopefully I gave him his sea food fill for a few days. He said he really likes oysters and I usually trade some crab to the neighbor for some so hopefully I can set that up next time. > We meet up with Mike Diamanti for breakfast one morning good to see him he kept us laughing. I didn't get to the national to meet all you but settled for seeing the northwest group minus Dave instead. As always great to gettogether with Brian highlight of my cardboard world can't wait till next time. Brian also gave me two of the last three red hearts I needed fox and lollar. > Sent from my iPad ================= To: , Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 20:46:47 -0500 Subject: National reports From: "George Vrechek" The blurbs and epistles on the National are all interesting reading. If you were there, you get to compare experiences. If you weren't there, you probably feel like you should make it sometime, especially if it is ever held in Scotland. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 21:53:20 -0400 To: smartalecx@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Post National Wantlists and a question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com There are a couple of cards that have an asterisk. The *comes in red or black. Problem I have always had is the Baker, only the 2nd hardest card in the set already, has an asterisk in 2 places on the card. Never have figured out if it means to get both * the same color or just 1. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Wantlist] To: OBC-Ramblings ; OBC-Wantlist ; OCTraders ; dugouttraders ; Tradingbases Sent: Tue, Aug 4, 2015 8:52 pm Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] Post National Wantlists and a question My goal was to hit a few lists hard, and I did pretty well. Several have only one or two left, plus I started a whole new set. I am starting the 1962 Post Cereal Football set. I picked up a nice starter set, so here is my wantlist: 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86,87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 96, 97, 98, 99, 101, 102, 103, 104, 106, 107, 108, 110, 111, 112, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 152, 153, 154, 155, 157, 158, 159, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 169, 170, 171, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 179, 181, 182, 183, 184, 186, 188, 190, 191, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 200 Question: While the SCD doesn't show it, Beckett shows some cards (e.g. #57) with a black and a red version. I suspect that means that the name on some cards is printed in red, but could someone please confirm? There are a couple of other wantlists that I wanted to try to complete: 1965 topps baseball: need # 22 charlies smith in EXMT/NM condition with very good centering, strong corners, no creases, writing or paper loss 1973 topps baseball: need #257 with brown background, and # 497 with bright orange background any help would be appreciated Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 23:45:47 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Common? No. From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I love it! And I saw the frustration in his face throughout the weekend trying to find it! Spoken like a true NYer with a bunch of F Bombs thrown in. I think we all have that ONE F'N card that has made us crazy! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/5/2015 2:05:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I was in vct about a year before bugging Tom Housley about his white and blue hat at the Dayton card show. I was still learning. Seeing the cardboard i always longed for. Becoming familiar with the market. I was only working on a few sets. I later found that expanding my collecting would make me a stronger collector and hobbyist. The baltimore 2012 national blew me away. I began taking wise advice of many obc members. With the 75 topps nearly complete, i decided to dedicate the 70-74 sets as well. They came along quite nicely. I remember Nick Pelletier couldnt find the 1970 topps #9 checklist to save our lives. (That for under 30 freakin bucks). I found myself taking kindly to the 71 black beauties. I sorta enjoyed how some were short printed, plus plenty of hof in the set. So i got to work. Like many of you, my wantist would be printed out via keyman collectibles, stapled, and wrinkled. The 71s are a monster set, yes. Well over 700 cards, high numbers, baker rc, ryan 513, concepcion and gullette rc, a popular rose, the matlock, the clemente, the #5 munson "rookie" (God, I hate that people think that.) Anyhow, they are all there. Searching high and low for bargains. I met kurt tourdot for the first time, and found almost a hundred highs and short prints from a flooded basement. Nice. My wrinkled wantlist was being blackened with ink in all the check boxes. Getting close as the shows and months go by. Now, you have to remember something. I'm a fairly patient man. I deal with drunks and gang bangers for a living. But i also know how to get something done. Work. Find. Seek. Inquire. Read. .... So the short of it, I'm sure I'd ever be (knock on wood) one those guys that says, "hey! There it is! The one card that will complete my very favorite and awesomest set "Oh ya Wes? Cool! So,,,,,,, you gonna get it? There it is in front of you?" "Nah, its too much" "Well what is it? What set?" "Joe nobody, 19 seventy whatever" "What the hell Wes? You've been building that set for 14 years! Why the hell dont you pick it up and kill your fuckin' set!?" "Well, the dealer demands .75 cents, and I will only pay .50. Oh well , i will find it again in another 14 years, when I'm 79 years old." .... Holy crap, if that ever sounds like me, punch me in the face! So you get the idea. I get shit done, especially if you're talkin about "doable sets." And i mean 70s or 60s doable, not 50s or pre-war. And please, i really dont mean insult to members who have done that, its just comical to me. And you know who you are, I've seen it, and I still love you. Im sorry. Moving on, and getting back to this 71 list getting as black as the cards themselves from all the checking. Time is moving, and soon the 2013 chicago national is in progress. I meet Nick at oh dark thirty hours, and Im fried on redbull, creatine, am radio and mountain dew. He hands me the 55 Clemente. He may have three up a little in his mouth when I about tackled him. was phenomenal. ... The next day we slaughter the 71s. Search & Destroy. It had been 42 years since the last search and destroy mission wss being executed in Vietnam, and here Nick and I were, doing the same with cards. The issue of Topps, released probably around that same time. 1971. ... We got the list down to about a dirty dozen. "Wes, who all is left? Is the pull out mattress ok? Also, here is an extra soda. No worries buddy." "Thanks Nick. Its good. Ya, im comfy. Dont worry. I once slept on a rock for 68 days..... Uummm lets see here. Need the baker rookie 713, ryan 513, mays, 544 vida blue...." "Whats that?" "A's pitcher, smiling at camera with the peace sign, you know?" "Oh ya..... That basically it?" "Ya, these are about all high numbers. Sure is understandable. Cuz you know, all the obc members talkin bout how some just werent printed cuz of time or weird positioning on the sheets, and stuff?" "Oh ya. Sorta neat. These guys know their stuff......." "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS !" "Huh? What Wes, what?" " there's another low number that hasnt been crossed off!" "What? The rose?" "No! Number Two sixty five! Jim Northrup!" "Who is that?" "I dont know!" ....... Of course, i soon found out about the tigers player. It just pissed me off, it boggled me how or why this one card dodged me for all my efforts. This #265 made the SP's look like they were a dime a dozen. But that was only the beginning. You see, I'd go to every table. Dealers of all types couldnt tell me who Jim Northrup was, and sure as shit couldnt sell me his 1971 #265 jim northrup. Because they didnt fucking have it..... So i kept looking, taking tips from wise FOOT members and trusting the writings of Vrechek. I kept on, but got nowhere even faster than before. Uncle dick, 707, korst, obc friendly, obc haters, i checked all their binders! No! No! No! This cant be! Three days searching the national, this cant be?! ........ All the dealers had two things in common. None of them had a 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup... But this is what put me over the edge.... You know how the binders are always numbered in order on the dealers tables? You know how if there is no 1966 Topps #561 choo choo coleman, there sure as hell is a void space for his card to go? Right? Every binder. Every dealer. Not a one of them had a #265, nor did they even acknowledge its existance with a voided slot for #265. They went straight from 264 to 266. Always. And yes,the boxes too. "Hey obc guy! Wes? Good to meet ya! Just got in a complete 71 topps set! Wanna look?" "Sure, but youre missing #265. Did you go through all of them yet?" "Well no, let me see." This is when I'd be walking away. Just knowing it was true, as the desperate dealer is fishing through the box of numbered order "complete" 71 "Hey! How'd you that! How'd you know! Did you do somdFFfdetthing?! What did you do!"sS ...... This last part was true, but modestly exagerated. You get the idea. So i met back with Nick. Secretly declaring i would not stop until acquiring 265 copies, either variation, of the 1971 Topps #265 jim northrup. later evolved into a binder full, then to every copy ever printed. All to be ultimately sacrificed in a ceremony. On video. Using fire. Im not confident it was as hard for any of you to find this card as it was for me. I hope it ================= Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 00:03:56 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] National reports From: Glenn Codere I should be able to accommodate at least 2 dealers tables in our new kitchen/dining room extension once its completed. On Thu, 8/6/15, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-NATIONAL] Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] National reports To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2015, 2:46 AM The blurbs and epistles on the National are all interesting reading. If you were there, you get to compare experiences. If you weren=E2=99t there, you probably feel like you should make it sometime, especially if it is ever held in Scotland.George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 08:03:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: waiver (two) 1909 T29 Hassan Animals starter sets From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Thanks to Steve Rittenberg and Taylor Schock who gave me a total of 57 different of these cards out of the 80 in the set. I have some duplicates I want to pass on via waivers. 1. 16 diff out of 80 in the set 2. 3 diff out of 80 in the set LMK, some of these aren=E2=99t =E2=9Cpretty=E2=9D LOL ================= Date: 06 Aug 2015 15:14:59 -0700 To: Subject: OBC Year Project update! From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 18:11:07 -0500 To: "" Subject: Waiver mailings From: john harrell All recent waiver requests will go out tomorrow. Sorry for the delay but I've been tied up with volunteer work for the adult literacy council. ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 06:34:37 -0400 To: obc ramblings , Subject: New wantlist URL From: Matthew Glidden Finally moved the wantlist to my real site! I've updated the OBC profile and please update any bookmarks you keep separately. http://www.number5typecollection.com/p/vintage-wantlist.html Started a bunch of things at the National, although I acknowledge adding a bunch of 1930s non-sports sets only makes it slightly easier to hit. ;-) ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 12:47:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: spikes new wantlist/bio From: Larry Tipton I like Spikes new bio where he comes clean about his "collecting habits" when he was a kid. Which led to a summers cardboard restriction:) Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:20:20 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Red Heart storage solution for "too nice" Lemon? From: Matthew Glidden Trying to put my Red Hearts into 9-pocket pages and Bob Lemon is too sharp-edged to fit comfortably in that pocket size. My other softies have no problem, but I'd rather not damage Bob just for the sake of storage. What's the OBC advice, fall back to 8-pocket? Swap for one in lesser grade? ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 18:58:31 -0400 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Heart storage solution for "too nice" Lemon? From: Bob Donaldson On Friday, August 7, 2015, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Trying to put my Red Hearts into 9-pocket pages and Bob Lemon is too > sharp-edged to fit comfortably in that pocket size. My other softies have > no problem, but I'd rather not damage Bob just for the sake of storage. > What's the OBC advice, fall back to 8-pocket? Swap for one in lesser grade? > Spike ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:23:36 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Heart storage solution for "too nice" Lemon? From: Matthew Glidden Tempting to go scissors! But thanks to all, I did in fact dig up some 8-count pages. Now sorting by back color. :-) On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Bob Donaldson wrote: > Scissors? > On Friday, August 7, 2015, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Trying to put my Red Hearts into 9-pocket pages and Bob Lemon is too >> sharp-edged to fit comfortably in that pocket size. My other softies have >> no problem, but I'd rather not damage Bob just for the sake of storage. >> What's the OBC advice, fall back to 8-pocket? Swap for one in lesser grade? >> Spike ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:47:18 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Reprint? From: Steve Rittenberg This is labeled a reprint. It looks pretty real to me. And possibly worth the $1.50 price. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey-Gum-reprint-35-Al-Simmons-Chicago-White-Sox/151766417377?_trksidp2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparmsaid%3D222007= Steve Rittenberg ================= To: Steve Rittenberg , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 22:30:10 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Reprint? From: Mac Wubben Definitely a reprint...I'd stay away (don't like supporting the reprint guys). To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 20:47:18 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Reprint? This is labeled a reprint. It looks pretty real to me. And possibly worth the $1.50 price. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey-Gum-reprint-35-Al-Simmons-Chicago-White-Sox/151766417377?_trksidp2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparmsaid%3D222007= Steve Rittenberg ================= To: =?utf-8?B?b2JjIHJhbWJsaW5ncw==?= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 02:42:16 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Reprint? From: "Ken M" ================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 23:47:13 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: How high would you go... From: ChicoD1@aol.com for this 52B Mantle? _http://www.ebay.com/itm/361355751024?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam (http://www.ebay.com/itm/361355751024?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 04:34:27 +0000 (UTC) To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How high would you go... From: talbot1@comcast.net The seller is Brett Domme Father - I've bought some things from him in the past. GOOD LUCK SAL!!! REGARDS ------------------------ MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:47:13 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How high would you go... for this 52B Mantle? http://www.ebay.com/itm/361355751024?_trksidp2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: =?utf-8?B?b2JjIHJhbWJsaW5ncw==?= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:01:50 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How high would you go... From: "Ken M" ================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 09:22:37 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Series game 5 From: Matthew Glidden This card's always intrigued me, as it could show Maury Wills making a play at 2B long before he worked out his contract situation with Topps and got his first "official" card with them years later. So is this really an unnamed Wills covering second? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-vs-Chicago-White-Sox-1960-Topps-389-1959-World-Series-GM5-/181827229520?hash=item2a55bf5750 But if this IS from game 5 of the 1959 World Series, there's a more basic problem: Aparicio never stole a base in that game. So while that #11 is Aparicio sliding into second, it'd have to be a different play and which play could tell us which player is pictured, LA started game 5 with Wills at SS and Charlie Neal at 2B. PH Essegian replaced Wills in the 7th and Zimmer took over at SS for the last two innings. With no SB to consider, here are the Aparicio plays at second from that game: *Top 3rd: Single to LF; Phillips to 3B; Aparicio out at 2B/LF-3B-2B* Aparicio tried to take second on the throw to 3B, but the return throw to 2B Neal got him. *Top 6th: Single to CF.* Later, *Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B* Aparicio forced at second by 2B Neal to end the inning. Unless Aparicio was already running with the play, Neal is positioned for a tag play, not a force out, so this isn't the play you see. If this photo's from game 5, Aparicio is being tagged out by Charlie Neal trying to take 2B on the throw to 3B. I can't see a situation where this would be Wills, so this is NOT his first Topps card. Thanks for reading this far! Here's the 1959 World Series highlight reel, starting at game 5. https://youtu.be/2U7v4YeyZcY?t=21m21s Those highlights really demonstrate the non-baseball stadium aspects of playing in the LA Coliseum. Lots of unusual things the fielders had to account for, not just the ghosted football lines. ================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 07:17:37 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Long overdue waivers... From: Brandon Wax I havent been contibuting lately, and got some hits from James Moleta, Peter Mead, and Greg Henthorn last week, so it motivated me to post a waiver list for the group. Please send your address if you need/want any of these: 1970 topps football #43 (Elvin Bethea RC in pretty good condition) 1960 baseball: 20, 25, 38, 45, 48, 53, 69, 80(writing on front), 80, 88, 432, 1964 topps baseball: 92, 96, 121, 122, 142, 168 1962 topps baseball 441 1969 topps football: 157, 204, 223, 242 Brandon Wax ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 07:12:09 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Series game 5 From: "Grant Rainsley" I=E2=99m absolutely certain the hidden motivation for Spike=E2=99s fascination with that card is the fact that it is World Series Game number: From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:23 AM To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Series game 5 This card's always intrigued me, as it could show Maury Wills making a playat 2B long before he worked out his contract situation with Topps and got his first "official" card with them years later. So is this really an unnamed Wills covering second? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-vs-Chicago-White-Sox-1960-Topps-389-1959-World-Series-GM5-/181827229520?hashitem2a55bf5750 But if this IS from game 5 of the 1959 World Series, there's a more basic problem: Aparicio never stole a base in that game. So while that #11 is Aparicio sliding into second, it'd have to be a different play and which play could tell us which player is pictured, LA started game 5 with Wills at SS and Charlie Neal at 2B. PH Essegian replaced Wills in the 7th and Zimmer took over at SS for the last two innings. With no SB to consider, here are the Aparicio plays at second from that game: Top 3rd: Single to LF; Phillips to 3B; Aparicio out at 2B/LF-3B-2B Aparicio tried to take second on the throw to 3B, but the return throw to 2B Neal got him. Top 6th: Single to CF. Later, Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B Aparicio forced at second by 2B Neal to end the inning. Unless Aparicio wasalready running with the play, Neal is positioned for a tag play, not a force out, so this isn't the play you see. If this photo's from game 5, Aparicio is being tagged out by Charlie Neal trying to take 2B on the throw to 3B. I can't see a situation where this would be Wills, so this is NOT his first Topps card. Thanks for reading this far! Here's the 1959 World Series highlight reel, starting at game 5. https://youtu.be/2U7v4YeyZcY?t21m21s Those highlights really demonstrate the non-baseball stadium aspects of playing in the LA Coliseum. Lots of unusual things the fielders had to accountfor, not just the ghosted football lines. ================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 11:17:10 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Series game 5 From: Matthew Glidden Ha, not far off! That card keeps showing up in my #5 eBay search and that's what brought it to mind today. :-) On Saturday, August 8, 2015, Grant Rainsley wrote: > I=E2=99m absolutely certain the hidden motivation for Spike=E2=99s fascination > that card is the fact that it is World Series Game number: > *5* > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > ] *On > Behalf Of *Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:23 AM > *To:* obc ramblings > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 > World Series game 5 > This card's always intrigued me, as it could show Maury Wills making a > play at 2B long before he worked out his contract situation with Topps and > got his first "official" card with them years later. So is this really an > unnamed Wills covering second? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-vs-Chicago-White-Sox-1960-Topps-389-1959-World-Series-GM5-/181827229520?hashitem2a55bf5750 > But if this IS from game 5 of the 1959 World Series, there's a more basic > problem: Aparicio never stole a base in that game. So while that #11 is > Aparicio sliding into second, it'd have to be a different play and which > play could tell us which player is pictured, > LA started game 5 with Wills at SS and Charlie Neal at 2B. PH Essegian > replaced Wills in the 7th and Zimmer took over at SS for the last two > innings. With no SB to consider, here are the Aparicio plays at second from > that game: > *Top 3rd: Single to LF; Phillips to 3B; Aparicio out at 2B/LF-3B-2B* > Aparicio tried to take second on the throw to 3B, but the return throw to > 2B Neal got him. > *Top 6th: Single to CF.* Later, *Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B* > Aparicio forced at second by 2B Neal to end the inning. Unless Aparicio > was already running with the play, Neal is positioned for a tag play, nota > force out, so this isn't the play you see. > *Conclusion* > If this photo's from game 5, Aparicio is being tagged out by Charlie Neal > trying to take 2B on the throw to 3B. I can't see a situation where this > would be Wills, so this is NOT his first Topps card. > Thanks for reading this far! Here's the 1959 World Series highlight reel, > starting at game 5. > https://youtu.be/2U7v4YeyZcY?t21m21s > Those highlights really demonstrate the non-baseball stadium aspects of > playing in the LA Coliseum. Lots of unusual things the fielders had to > account for, not just the ghosted football lines. > Spike ================= Date: 08 Aug 2015 10:28:28 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Series game 5 From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 08 Aug 2015 10:45:27 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Maury Wills From: David Fallen I didn't want to hijack the thread on "Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Series game 5", but I am thoroughly enjoying the discussion. I was fortunate enough to watch Maury play in Seattle in 1957. He was one of those players on his way up and you could tell he had a future in the big leagues. I am grateful that I was able to secure his 1957 Seattle Popcorn card which, although not "officially" his rookie card still predates his major league issues. Dave Fallen ================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 16:36:54 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Best Traded Card Ever From: ChicoD1@aol.com I am taking a "me" day and going through the boxes, putting my goodies away. I am through one of the 5 COMC boxes I borrowed from them at the National and hopefully I will have them all sorted before Atlantic City. In my travels I found the best traded card. Notice the meticulous work to change this rare 1958 Dick Williams to make sure he made it to the Baltimore Orioles. Sometimes you just see a card and say, "I really need that one in my collection" (for all I know, it was probably a yellow before the scissors found the card)! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 21:05:00 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: Anyone live in Kansas? From: Rick Going to Kansas for a week driving on Tuesday morning leaving on the 19th. If anyone can get together let me know. Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 09:01:50 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: $10 Al Simmons Cracker Jack pin back on etsy From: Matthew Glidden Not sure who in OBC is big on pin backs, but came across this Bucketfoot Simmons pin for what looks like a good deal. https://www.etsy.com/listing/233155924/al-simmons-pinback-button-1930s-cracker?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=cracker%20jack%20pins&ref=sr_gallery_1 I've found good items before on Etsy, given its lower profile in sports, though it's also a place for self-described reprint-makers, so be aware of that on the vintage card side. ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 09:18:54 -0400 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps From: Matthew Glidden Hey all, looks like I'm happy to be wrong! Tom is correct about this being Aparicio's game 4 steal and not game 5. The Horizontal Heroes blog even supplied the original photo with its post about this card. That's Wills taking the throw. http://1960toppsblog.blogspot.com/2015/05/389-1959-world-series-game-5-luis.html If I'm not mistaken, this becomes the only Topps card showing Wills as a On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Spike, > Nice detective work there. But I think the card would more accurately show > the play in the 6th. Two out, Aparicio forced at second base. The Dodger > looks to be set up just to touch second & wouldn't need to make a tag on a > force play, whereas if it's the play in the 3rd, there would need to be a > tag. > Either way, it's hard to see how close Aparicio really is to the base but > he appears safe either way, So Sy Berger (or whoever wrote the "Aparicio > Swipes Base" line) is clearly wrong anyway, since there was no steal in > game 5, as you pointed out. > Aparicio stole 1 base in the series, in game 4. Game 4 was in L.A., (as > was game 5) and it looks like Neal/Wills is wearing a home white uniform. > He stole the bag in the first inning while Nellie Fox, a left-handed > hitter, was at-bat; if I was managing I would have Wills cover on all steal > attempts to left-handed hitters (thus there's no hole at second for Fox or > any leftie to pull a hit through). > Sooooo, this MAY be Wills after all. To me the photo looks more like Wills > than Neal. And if it IS actually Aparicio stealing a base, then the card is > an uncorrected error since the play happened in game 4, not game 5 as > stated on the card. > Then again, maybe I am over-thinking this :-) > Tom ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 07:57:08 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: Red hearts From: Rick Batters box has lots of red hearts for under $10 on eBay Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 15:26:20 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: not your average ramble From: nick pelletier Thank you to the OBCAC for their blessing in posting this to ramblings. http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/29704121/dive-from-boat-on-lake-minnetonka-leaves-young-father-with-spinal-injury This event happened while many of us were in Chicago looking at cardboard. This link is to a story about a twenty-eight year old man, Kirk, with a very young daughter, Alexa. She was born less than one month ago. Kirk is a friend of mine, though we are not the best of buddies. Kirk is very good friends with one of my good college friends. Mywife's very close friend was childhood best friends with kirks wife. Even though Kirk and I aren't that close, we really aren't that far apart. This link is to a story from a few days ago. A current update is he is sedated and on a ventilator to assist with breathing. Word is that he does have some minimal feeling in his upper arms but nowhere else.They are id a day to day situation. I am hoping one person can read this and think a positive thought for the family. I know their family will appreciate it during these difficult times. Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 14:37:57 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Working on being a better OBCer.... From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Time, family, vacations, lack of a job, lack of money, and some other stuffhave put me behind on being a good solid member of OBC. Sooooooo......I'mworking on my site and lists right now and going to add....100 to 200 sets!!! Lately I've been working on my HOF RC list more than anything....when I've had an ounce of time....but I need to get back into the thick of beinga good set collector, the roots of my hobby background, as well as OBC's. So, with that being said, I've begun adding some sets for you all to look through, and I'm compiling a much better tradebox/RAOK box with HOFers and more. Be on the lookout folks! Sorry for the rambling, Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:43:18 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Did someone take my mail? From: I will start by apologizing if this is taken the wrong way. It is not meantto be a method of laying guilt on anyone. Last Monday I mailed out 7 or 8(I don't keep track very well) envelopes to various OBCers. Since they were all envelopes I did not need to go to the post office, but simply left them in my box with the flag up. This has never been a problem. However, I'm starting to worry--the mailman doesn't get here some days until 5:00 PM.I left them when I got up in the morning (4:30 AM) so they were there all day. I have not seen a single mention of anyone receiving them this week. That has never happened before, as OBCers are almost universally fastidiousin sending out thanks. I'd have sent individual notes, but I don't keep track of who I sent what to, and, like they say, at may age, two things go--memory, and .... something else I've forgotten. If someone purloined them from my mailbox I want to let my neighbors (and the post office, not that they will do anything) know about it, and stop using my mailbox to send outgoing So, if anyone received an envelope from me (and yes, it is entirely possible that I missed the thanks on the server--that old age thing again!), just please drop me a private email. The one thing I do remember is that I started with the beginning of the directory (sometimes I start at the end, other times at the middle), so anyone who was on the mailing probably has a last name starting with an "E" or higher (sorry Mac). Thank you, ================= To: "'obc ramblings'" Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 11:43:37 -0700 Subject: Question: From: "Grant Rainsley" I know it is Softball, but is this a left-handed or right handed Home Run? (Only takes about 10 secondsJ) https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/watch-as-this-softball ================= Date: 09 Aug 2015 12:02:09 -0700 To: Subject: Some 1970s waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 07:27:02 -0500 Subject: new set started 1958 Topps baseball From: "ken goetsch" Since Doug DeJong send me the first 2-cards...he encouraged me to lists it........Thanks for "nudge", Doug...... Any condition is fine............Thanks for any consideration. Ken Goetsch 16 Parkview Lane Watertown, Wi. 53094 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 17:08:26 -0400 To: rdn56@nc.rr.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Did someone take my mail? From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Which Bob are you? Best regards, In a message dated 08/09/2015 2:43:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I will start by apologizing if this is taken the wrong way. It is not meant to be a method of laying guilt on anyone. Last Monday I mailed out 7 or 8 (I don't keep track very well) envelopes to various OBCers. Since they were all envelopes I did not need to go to the post office, but simply left them in my box with the flag up. This has never been a problem. However, I'm starting to worry--the mailman doesn't get here some days until 5:00 PM. I left them when I got up in the morning (4:30 AM) so they were there all day. I have not seen a single mention of anyone receiving them this week. That has never happened before, as OBCers are almost universally fastidious in sending out thanks. I'd have sent individual notes, but I don't keep track of who I sent what to, and, like they say, at may age, two things go--memory, and .... something else I've forgotten. If someone purloined them from my mailbox I want to let my neighbors (and the post o ffice, not that they will do anything) know about it, and stop using my mailbox to send outgoing So, if anyone received an envelope from me (and yes, it is entirely possible that I missed the thanks on the server--that old age thing again!), please drop me a private email. The one thing I do remember is that I started with the beginning of the directory (sometimes I start at the end, other times at the middle), so anyone who was on the mailing probably has a last name starting with an "E" or higher (sorry Mac). Thank you, ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 21:30:41 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Did someone take my mail? From: Sorry, as Chuck pointed out, we have multiple Bobs. This is Bob Neill--cards would have come from Raleigh, NC ---- "bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: ============= Which Bob are you? Best regards, In a message dated 08/09/2015 2:43:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I will start by apologizing if this is taken the wrong way. It is not meant to be a method of laying guilt on anyone. Last Monday I mailed out 7 or 8 (I don't keep track very well) envelopes to various OBCers. Since they were all envelopes I did not need to go to the post office, but simply left them in my box with the flag up. This has never been a problem. However, I'm starting to worry--the mailman doesn't get here some days until 5:00 PM. I left them when I got up in the morning (4:30 AM) so they were there all day. I have not seen a single mention of anyone receiving them this week. That has never happened before, as OBCers are almost universally fastidious in sending out thanks. I'd have sent individual notes, but I don't keep track of who I sent what to, and, like they say, at may age, two things go--memory, and .... something else I've forgotten. If someone purloined them from my mailbox I want to let my neighbors (and the post o ffice, not that they will do anything) know about it, and stop using my mailbox to send outgoing So, if anyone received an envelope from me (and yes, it is entirely possible that I missed the thanks on the server--that old age thing again!), just please drop me a private email. The one thing I do remember is that I started with the beginning of the directory (sometimes I start at the end, other times at the middle), so anyone who was on the mailing probably has a last name starting with an "E" or higher (sorry Mac). Thank you, ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:36:57 -0400 To: ken goetsch Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] new set started 1958 Topps baseball From: Rob Bessette I have a VG #360 coming at you. > On Aug 9, 2015, at 8:27 AM, 'ken goetsch' kshoes@charter.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Since Doug DeJong send me the first 2-cards...he encouraged me to lists it........Thanks for "nudge", Doug...... > Any condition is fine............Thanks for any consideration. > Ken Goetsch > 16 Parkview Lane > Watertown, Wi. 53094 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 20:19:58 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red hearts From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Thanks for the heads up. I did not get either Red Heart I needed at the National. I just bought the Martin on Battersbox, getting me down to just Mantle to finish the set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc ramblings Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2015 10:57 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Red hearts Batters box has lots of red hearts for under $10 on eBay Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 1:20:19 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The mail did go through! From: Ok, I panicked needlessly. I've heard from a couple of folks--just a unusual confluence of those receiving cards being away, indisposed or otherwise engaged this weekend. No mailbox robbers in Raleigh! ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 21:46:22 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: E97 Cy Young SGC 10 for trade From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, Looking to trade my E97 Cy Young (Boston) SGC 10 for a nice hit to my T206 list or maybe my HOF RC list. If not, I may consider sell it, too. You can view the picture of the card on my site. Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 23:15:28 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: [OBC-NATIONAL] Looking Back - Looking Ahead From: Matthew Glidden Hi Guru, I remember that we had all the same OBC meetings in Atlantic City, but it's quite a different city experience than Chicago or Cleveland. Might have to do a lot more advance planning to experience real city highlights as a group, since it's not a walkable area. On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:42 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-NATIONAL] > Looking Back > I didn=E2=99t even know that whole entertainment area was just a shortwalk > from the Convention Center. The dinner we had Hofbrauhaus was GREAT and so > close! Taylor and I ate at the Mexican Place in the same area on Friday > before the Net54 dinner SO GOOD and cheap too! And the bowling Alley was > right there, OBC Bowling Tournament? I enjoy the Thursday Night dinner at > Rittenburgs, it=E2=99s nice to get into the city and all, but it=E2=99s a long way > off and makes for a very late night. I think I would be happy just hanging > around in this Convention Center Area. > The SWAP of course is fun and certainly a highlight, but I didn=E2=99teven > bring my dupes box cause it=E2=99s always empty lol! I did enjoy looking > Mark T (I think) binder of T cards. Someone suggested bringing part of your > collection to share and I would second that, I brought the GGS collection. > Down side is who wants to drag around a valuable binder full of cards? The > only dupes box of cards I looked through was Kents and of course I pulled > some nice hits thanks Kent! I spent a lot of the SWAP time broadcasting on > Periscope and also taking pictures. LEROUX LEROUX!!!! OBC members filling > out their 70s sets have plenty of boxes to go through! Pizza soda was great! > I did enjoy the Net54 dinner, would I do it again? I don=E2=99t know=E2=A6.. > I wish I would have flown home Sunday PM instead of Monday. And yes I did > get tired of looking at cards! > Looking Ahead > What can we expect in Atlantic City next year? I know that not all the > dealers are happy that the show will be there next year. My son lives in > New Jersey so I may drive up, visit him, drive to the show, re-visit my > son, drive home. It=E2=99s still a year away. Did OBC meet the last time > show was in Atlantic City? I heard it=E2=99s great to stay in one of the > hotels? > Thanks to all the planning that made the event such a success. > Guru ================= Date: 09 Aug 2015 20:26:31 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story Created by: tampabob1 1. 1951 Bowman Mantle https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567504 2. 1951 Bowman Mays https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567482 3. 1955 Topps Koufax https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567518 4. 1957 Topps B. Robinson https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567505 5. 1959 Topps B. Gibson https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567506 6. 1954 Topps Aaron https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567507 7. 1954 Topps Banks https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567483 8. 1952 Topps Wilhelm https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567519 9. 1952 Topps Mathews https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567520 10. 1951 Bowman W. Ford https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567508 11. 1968 Ryan https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567509 12. 1963 Rose https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567510 13. 1967 Seaver https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567484 14. 1967 Carew https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567511 15. 1963 Stargell https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567512 16. 1968 Bench https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567513 17. 1960 McCovey https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567485 18. 1969 Jackson https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567486 19. 1960 Yastrzemski https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567514 20. 1962 Brock https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567487 21. 1973 Schmidt https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567488 22. 1975 Brett https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567515 23. 1972 Fisk https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567516 24. 1970 Munson https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567489 25. 1975 Yount https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567490 26. 1978 Murray https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567537 27. 1971 D. Baker https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567538 28. 1979 O. Smith https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567539 29. 1974 Winfield https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567491 30. 1978 Murray https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567492 31. Write in https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567493 + Add Options https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 20:31:20 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: Rick Sent from my iPad > On Aug 9, 2015, at 8:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob > 1957 Topps B. Robinson > 1954 Topps Aaron > 1954 Topps Banks > 1968 Ryan > 1963 Rose > 1967 Seaver > 1968 Bench > 1969 Jackson > 1975 Brett > 1975 Yount > + Add Options > Thanks! ================= Date: 09 Aug 2015 21:10:29 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] An existing poll has been modified, check it out. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Enter your vote now! https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050 Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story Created by: tampabob1 1. 1955 Topps Clemente https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567526 (added by: obc_ken . August 9, 2015) ================= Date: 09 Aug 2015 21:10:48 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] An existing poll has been modified, check it out. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Enter your vote now! https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050 Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story Created by: tampabob1 1. 1955 Topps Clemente https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567495 (added by: obc_ken . August 9, 2015) ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 01:51:43 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: Wes Shepard 1- 63 topps rose 2- 51 bowman mantle 3- 54 topps aaron 4- 51 bowman mays 5- 55 topps clemente 6- 55 topps koufax 7- 54 topps banks 8 -68 topps ryan 9- 52 topps nuxhall 10 - 71 topps baker Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2015, at 11:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob1 > 1951 Bowman Mantle > 1951 Bowman Mays > 1955 Topps Koufax > 1957 Topps B. Robinson > 1959 Topps B. Gibson > 1954 Topps Aaron > 1954 Topps Banks > 1952 Topps Wilhelm > 1952 Topps Mathews > 1951 Bowman W. Ford > 1968 Ryan > 1963 Rose > 1967 Seaver > 1967 Carew > 1963 Stargell > 1968 Bench > 1960 McCovey > 1969 Jackson > 1960 Yastrzemski > 1962 Brock > 1973 Schmidt > 1975 Brett > 1972 Fisk > 1970 Munson > 1975 Yount > 1978 Murray > 1971 D. Baker > 1979 O. Smith > 1974 Winfield > 1978 Murray > Write in > + Add Options > Thanks! ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:56:33 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: Jay Tysver Based upon my perception of hobby impact from when I started collecting in 73. 52 Topps Mantle 54 Topps Aaron 67 Seaver 52 Topps Mays 55 Clemente 63 Rose 68 Ryan 73 Schmidt 58 Maris 14 Baltimore News Ruth > On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob1 > 1951 Bowman Mantle > 1951 Bowman Mays > 1955 Topps Koufax > 1957 Topps B. Robinson > 1959 Topps B. Gibson > 1954 Topps Aaron > 1954 Topps Banks > 1952 Topps Wilhelm > 1952 Topps Mathews > 1951 Bowman W. Ford > 1968 Ryan > 1963 Rose > 1967 Seaver > 1967 Carew > 1963 Stargell > 1968 Bench > 1960 McCovey > 1969 Jackson > 1960 Yastrzemski > 1962 Brock > 1973 Schmidt > 1975 Brett > 1972 Fisk > 1970 Munson > 1975 Yount > 1978 Murray > 1971 D. Baker > 1979 O. Smith > 1974 Winfield > 1978 Murray > Write in > + Add Options > Thanks! ================= Date: 10 Aug 2015 04:52:02 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] An existing poll has been modified, check it out. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Enter your vote now! https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050 Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story Created by: tampabob1 1. 1954 Topps Kaline https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567597 (added by: macknife13@prodigy.net . August 10, 2015) ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 07:01:45 -0500 To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: OBC Nick P 1. 52 mantle (if it is considered a rookie for your purposes) (arguably themost iconic post war card) 2. 54 Banks 3. 55 Clemente 4. 57 Brooks Robinson 5. 59 Gibson 6. 60 Yastrzemski 7. 61 Santo 8. 68 Ryan 9. 63 Rose 10. 72 Fisk 11. 73 Schmidt (if the mantle isn't deemed a rookie) 12. 78 Jack Morris (have to mention my HOM'er and directions-I don't need no stinking directions) Nick Pelletier Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > 1- 63 topps rose > 2- 51 bowman mantle > 3- 54 topps aaron > 4- 51 bowman mays > 5- 55 topps clemente > 6- 55 topps koufax > 7- 54 topps banks > 8 -68 topps ryan > 9- 52 topps nuxhall > 10 - 71 topps baker > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 9, 2015, at 11:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: >> Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblingsgroup: >> Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about thetop rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where weland. I'll use your feedback to help write the story >> Created by: tampabob1 >> 1951 Bowman Mantle >> 1951 Bowman Mays >> 1955 Topps Koufax >> 1957 Topps B. Robinson >> 1959 Topps B. Gibson >> 1954 Topps Aaron >> 1954 Topps Banks >> 1952 Topps Wilhelm >> 1952 Topps Mathews >> 1951 Bowman W. Ford >> 1968 Ryan >> 1963 Rose >> 1967 Seaver >> 1967 Carew >> 1963 Stargell >> 1968 Bench >> 1960 McCovey >> 1969 Jackson >> 1960 Yastrzemski >> 1962 Brock >> 1973 Schmidt >> 1975 Brett >> 1972 Fisk >> 1970 Munson >> 1975 Yount >> 1978 Murray >> 1971 D. Baker >> 1979 O. Smith >> 1974 Winfield >> 1978 Murray >> Write in >> + Add Options >> Thanks! ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 07:26:09 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: TJ Valacak 1. 51 mantle 2. 51 mays 3. 54 Aaron 4. 55 Clemente 5. 55 Koufax 6. 54 Banks 7. 68 Ryan 8. 67 Seaver 9. 63 Rose 10. 75 Brett Tough to put those into a top 10. Looking forward to the article! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob1 > 1951 Bowman Mantle > 1951 Bowman Mays > 1955 Topps Koufax > 1957 Topps B. Robinson > 1959 Topps B. Gibson > 1954 Topps Aaron > 1954 Topps Banks > 1952 Topps Wilhelm > 1952 Topps Mathews > 1951 Bowman W. Ford > 1968 Ryan > 1963 Rose > 1967 Seaver > 1967 Carew > 1963 Stargell > 1968 Bench > 1960 McCovey > 1969 Jackson > 1960 Yastrzemski > 1962 Brock > 1973 Schmidt > 1975 Brett > 1972 Fisk > 1970 Munson > 1975 Yount > 1978 Murray > 1971 D. Baker > 1979 O. Smith > 1974 Winfield > 1978 Murray > Write in > + Add Options > Thanks! ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 05:45:06 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An existing poll has been modified, check it out. From: Erik Greenwood Not in any particular order... 1. 1951 Bowman Mantle 2. 1954 Topps Aaron 3. 1955 Topps Clemente 4. 1955 Topps Koufax 5. 1957 Topps Frank Robinson 6. 1954 Topps Banks 7. 1955 Topps Kaline 8. 1967 Topps Seaver 9. 1969 Topps Jackson 10. 1980 Topps Henderson Erik Greenwood > On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:52 AM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote now! > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob1 > 1954 Topps Kaline (added by: macknife13@prodigy.net . August 10, 2015) > Thanks! ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:49:19 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: anthony.senthi@gmail.com Sent from my iPad > On Aug 9, 2015, at 11:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob1 > 1951 Bowman Mantle > 1951 Bowman Mays > 1955 Topps Koufax > 1954 Topps Aaron > 1968 Ryan > 1963 Rose > 1967 Seaver > 1973 Schmidt > 1975 Brett > 1963 rusty staub > + Add Options > Thanks! ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:06:56 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: Doug Look forward to the story! 1. 1951 Bowman Mantle 2. 1954 Aaron 3. 1963 Rose 4. 1968 Ryan 5. 1967 Carew 6. 1951 Bowman Mays 7. 1957 Robinson 8. 1960 Yaz 9. 1952 Mathews 10. 1955 Killebrew Doug D Sent from my iPad On Aug 9, 2015, at 11:26 PM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com wrote: > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: > Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story > Created by: tampabob1 > 1951 Bowman Mantle > 1951 Bowman Mays > 1955 Topps Koufax > 1957 Topps B. Robinson > 1959 Topps B. Gibson > 1954 Topps Aaron > 1954 Topps Banks > 1952 Topps Wilhelm > 1952 Topps Mathews > 1951 Bowman W. Ford > 1968 Ryan > 1963 Rose > 1967 Seaver > 1967 Carew > 1963 Stargell > 1968 Bench > 1960 McCovey > 1969 Jackson > 1960 Yastrzemski > 1962 Brock > 1973 Schmidt > 1975 Brett > 1972 Fisk > 1970 Munson > 1975 Yount > 1978 Murray > 1971 D. Baker > 1979 O. Smith > 1974 Winfield > 1978 Murray > Write in > + Add Options > Thanks! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:13:29 -0400 Subject: Diamond Matchbooks BST From: Mac Wubben Running out of semi-affordable pre-war sets to chase...so I've started a new quest--the diamond matchbook sets. Looking to trade for the "cards" below. 1935 Diamond Matchbooks Black Borders (b 8/10/15)Allen, Carey, Chiozza, Frisch, Hafey, Klein, Lopez, Maranville, Moore, Mungo, Ott, Slade, Stengel, Thevenow, Paul Waner, Warnecke, WilsonDupes: Jordan 1936 Diamond Matchbooks Team Name on Back (b 8/10/15)Carey, Cuccinello, Fitzsimmons, Frisch, Hubble, Klein, Mungo, OttDupes: Lopez, Jordan 1936 Diamond Matchbooks Chicago Cubs (b 8/10/15)Carleton, Dean, GarbarkDupes: Demaree, Frey, Jurges, O'Dea, Root, Stainback I will also trade for any 1934 Diamond Matchbooks (silver border) or standard Dupes: 1935-36: Brown, Carey, Davis, Galehouse, Harder, Hansen, Hayworth, Medwick, Pytlak, Thomas. Mac WubbenPO Box 23938Washington DC 20026 ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 09:24:30 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Rookie Cards From: David Fallen The current poll on rookie cards jogged my memory - whenever the subject comes up I always think of the following:
================= Date: 10 Aug 2015 10:16:17 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] An existing poll has been modified, check it out. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Enter your vote now! https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050 Hi gang, doing an informal poll for a story I'm going to write about the top rookie cards from 1950 to 1979. Vote for 10 RCs and let's see where we land. I'll use your feedback to help write the story Created by: tampabob1 1. 1958 Topps Maris https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/polls/poll/13246050#122567666 (added by: obc_spike . August 10, 2015) ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:19:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: who collects what? what? From: smartalecx@aol.com i am not sure if this feature is used by many of you anymore with the new year by year project capabilities. i took a look at it today, and i can tell you that it seems pretty our of date. i looked at some of the early 1970s lists, and each has a dozen or more names. but when i look at the actual wantlists, most of those members do not have lists for some or all of those years. i think in the same section where you enter your profile, you can make sure that only your currently opened wantlists are shown in the who collects what section of our website. will save us a lot of time. Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 16:48:50 -0400 To: "smartalecx@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what? what? From: Doug I have updated my list, but the updates do not transfer over. Not sure what else to try. Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:19 PM, "smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > i am not sure if this feature is used by many of you anymore with the newyear by year project capabilities. > i took a look at it today, and i can tell you that it seems pretty our ofdate. i looked at some of the early 1970s lists, and each has a dozen or more names. but when i look at the actual wantlists, most of those membersdo not have lists for some or all of those years. > i think in the same section where you enter your profile, you can make sure that only your currently opened wantlists are shown in the who collects what section of our website. > will save us a lot of time. > thanks, > Gary Mandell > P.O. Box 180333 > Chicago, IL 60618-0676 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:10:47 -0400 To: ddejong17@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what? what? From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en Updating your wantlists will not effect the Who Collect What list. YOu need to go into your Bio and use the check boxes to indicate what sets you are collecting Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB In a message dated 8/10/2015 3:48:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddejong17@gmail.com writes: I have updated my list, but the updates do not transfer over. Not sure what else to try. Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:19 PM, "_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: i am not sure if this feature is used by many of you anymore with the new year by year project capabilities. i took a look at it today, and i can tell you that it seems pretty our of date. i looked at some of the early 1970s lists, and each has a dozen or more names. but when i look at the actual wantlists, most of those members do not have lists for some or all of those years. i think in the same section where you enter your profile, you can make sure that only your currently opened wantlists are shown in the who collects what section of our website. will save us a lot of time. Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 17:21:12 -0400 To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 World Seri... From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Another mystery for me is the White Sox outfielder Jim McAnany, who played for the White Sox and Cubs from 1958-1962. He had 210 at bats for the '59 Chisox, but seems never to have had a baseball card. Does anyone know why? In a message dated 08/08/2015 9:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: This card's always intrigued me, as it could show Maury Wills making a play at 2B long before he worked out his contract situation with Topps andgot his first "official" card with them years later. So is this really an unnamed Wills covering second? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-vs-Chicago-White-Sox-1960-Topps- But if this IS from game 5 of the 1959 World Series, there's a more basic problem: Aparicio never stole a base in that game. So while that #11 is Aparicio sliding into second, it'd have to be a different play and which play could tell us which player is pictured, LA started game 5 with Wills at SS and Charlie Neal at 2B. PH Essegian rep laced Wills in the 7th and Zimmer took over at SS for the last two innings. With no SB to consider, here are the Aparicio plays at second fromthat Top 3rd: Single to LF; Phillips to 3B; Aparicio out at 2B/LF-3B-2B Aparicio tried to take second on the throw to 3B, but the return throw to 2B Neal got him. Top 6th: Single to CF. Later, Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B Aparicio forced at second by 2B Neal to end the inning. Unless Aparicio was already running with the play, Neal is positioned for a tag play, not a force out, so this isn't the play you see. If this photo's from game 5, Aparicio is being tagged out by Charlie Neal trying to take 2B on the throw to 3B. I can't see a situation where this would be Wills, so this is NOT his first Topps card. Thanks for reading this far! Here's the 1959 World Series highlight reel, starting at game 5. https://youtu.be/2U7v4YeyZcY?t21m21s Those highlights really demonstrate the non-baseball stadium aspects of playing in the LA Coliseum. Lots of unusual things the fielders had to account for, not just the ghosted football lines. ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 19:25:08 -0400 To: "Smartalecx@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what? what? From: Doug Yep.....done that. I've checked them all and unchecked them all before butit doesn't update the link on who collects what. Sent from my iPad On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Smartalecx@aol.com wrote: > Updating your wantlists will not effect the Who Collect What list. YOu need to go into your Bio and use the check boxes to indicate what sets you are > Gary Mandell > P.O. Box 180333 > Chicago, IL 60618-0676 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB > In a message dated 8/10/2015 3:48:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddejong17@gmail.com > I have updated my list, but the updates do not transfer over. Not sure what else to try. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:19 PM, "smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> i am not sure if this feature is used by many of you anymore with the new year by year project capabilities. >> i took a look at it today, and i can tell you that it seems pretty our of date. i looked at some of the early 1970s lists, and each has a dozen ormore names. but when i look at the actual wantlists, most of those members do not have lists for some or all of those years. >> i think in the same section where you enter your profile, you can make sure that only your currently opened wantlists are shown in the who collectswhat section of our website. >> will save us a lot of time. >> thanks, >> Gary Mandell >> P.O. Box 180333 >> Chicago, IL 60618-0676 >> Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:53:41 -0500 To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what? what? From: Gary Mandell I did notice that the website was responding very slowly today Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2015, at 6:50 PM, familytoad@comcast.net wrote: > A few of our pages seemed to be affected by that. > I have tried to update mine as well, assuring that only the sets that I haven't finished are marked, but it doesn't always jive. > Probably some bug... > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: Smartalecx@aol.com > Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: August 10, 2015 at 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what? what? > Yep.....done that. I've checked them all and unchecked them all before but it doesn't update the link on who collects what. > Sent from my iPad > On Aug 10, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Smartalecx@aol.com wrote: > Updating your wantlists will not effect the Who Collect What list. YOu need to go into your Bio and use the check boxes to indicate what sets you are > Gary Mandell > P.O. Box 180333 > Chicago, IL 60618-0676 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB > In a message dated 8/10/2015 3:48:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ddejong17@gmail.com > I have updated my list, but the updates do not transfer over. Not sure what else to try. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Aug 10, 2015, at 4:19 PM, "smartalecx@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > i am not sure if this feature is used by many of you anymore with the newyear by year project capabilities. > i took a look at it today, and i can tell you that it seems pretty our ofdate. i looked at some of the early 1970s lists, and each has a dozen or more names. but when i look at the actual wantlists, most of those membersdo not have lists for some or all of those years. > i think in the same section where you enter your profile, you can make sure that only your currently opened wantlists are shown in the who collects what section of our website. > will save us a lot of time. > thanks, > Gary Mandell > P.O. Box 180333 > Chicago, IL 60618-0676 > Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 22:09:28 -0400 To: bskp1@aol.com, glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 From: mikesportsfan@aol.com At the National I bought a duplicate set of 1981 TCMA 1959 White Six. McAnany IS in the set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: glidden.matthew ; obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 10, 2015 5:21 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389World Another mystery for me is the White Sox outfielder Jim McAnany, who played for the White Sox and Cubs from 1958-1962. He had 210 at bats for the '59 Chisox, but seems never to have had a baseball card. Does anyone know why? In a message dated 08/08/2015 9:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com This card's always intrigued me, as it could show Maury Wills making a playat 2B long before he worked out his contract situation with Topps and got his first "official" card with them years later. So is this really an unnamed Wills covering second? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-vs-Chicago-White-Sox-1960-Topps-389-1959-World-Series-GM5-/181827229520?hashitem2a55bf5750 But if this IS from game 5 of the 1959 World Series, there's a more basic problem: Aparicio never stole a base in that game. So while that #11 is Aparicio sliding into second, it'd have to be a different play and which play could tell us which player is pictured, LA started game 5 with Wills at SS and Charlie Neal at 2B. PH Essegian rep laced Wills in the 7th and Zimmer took over at SS for the last two innings.With no SB to consider, here are the Aparicio plays at second from that game: Top 3rd: Single to LF; Phillips to 3B; Aparicio out at 2B/LF-3B-2B Aparicio tried to take second on the throw to 3B, but the return throw to 2B Neal got him. Top 6th: Single to CF. Later, Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B Aparicio forced at second by 2B Neal to end the inning. Unless Aparicio wasalready running with the play, Neal is positioned for a tag play, not a force out, so this isn't the play you see. If this photo's from game 5, Aparicio is being tagged out by Charlie Neal trying to take 2B on the throw to 3B. I can't see a situation where this would be Wills, so this is NOT his first Topps card. Thanks for reading this far! Here's the 1959 World Series highlight reel, starting at game 5. https://youtu.be/2U7v4YeyZcY?t21m21s Those highlights really demonstrate the non-baseball stadium aspects of playing in the LA Coliseum. Lots of unusual things the fielders had to accountfor, not just the ghosted football lines. ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 23:13:17 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: eBay : OBC grade 1973 Topps set $129 + $20 shipping From: Matthew Glidden Huh, I thought full sets were much pricier these days! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-COMPLETE-BASEBALL-SET-1-660-POOR-TO-VG-/191658928570?hash=item2c9fc329ba ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 23:27:09 -0400 To: Chuck Salek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Maury Wills, Luis Aparicio and 1960 Topps #389 From: Matthew Glidden Perhaps Topps had already set their 1960 ChiSox team choices when Jim got his mid-season call-up? That's my best guess, in absence of other evidence. Jim's surely one of the few post-WWII players with World Series experience but no cards during his career. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 5:21 PM, wrote: > Another mystery for me is the White Sox outfielder Jim McAnany, who played > for the White Sox and Cubs from 1958-1962. He had 210 at bats for the '59 > Chisox, but seems never to have had a baseball card. Does anyone know why? > BR, > Chuck > In a message dated 08/08/2015 9:22:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > This card's always intrigued me, as it could show Maury Wills making a > play at 2B long before he worked out his contract situation with Topps and > got his first "official" card with them years later. So is this really an > unnamed Wills covering second? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Los-Angeles-Dodgers-vs-Chicago-White-Sox-1960-Topps-389-1959-World-Series-GM5-/181827229520?hashitem2a55bf5750 > But if this IS from game 5 of the 1959 World Series, there's a more basic > problem: Aparicio never stole a base in that game. So while that #11 is > Aparicio sliding into second, it'd have to be a different play and which > play could tell us which player is pictured, > LA started game 5 with Wills at SS and Charlie Neal at 2B. PH Essegian rep > laced Wills in the 7th and Zimmer took over at SS for the last two innings. > With no SB to consider, here are the Aparicio plays at second from that > game: > *Top 3rd: Single to LF; Phillips to 3B; Aparicio out at 2B/LF-3B-2B* > Aparicio tried to take second on the throw to 3B, but the return throw to > 2B Neal got him. > *Top 6th: Single to CF.* Later, *Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B* > Aparicio forced at second by 2B Neal to end the inning. Unless Aparicio > was already running with the play, Neal is positioned for a tag play, nota > force out, so this isn't the play you see. > *Conclusion* > If this photo's from game 5, Aparicio is being tagged out by Charlie Neal > trying to take 2B on the throw to 3B. I can't see a situation where this > would be Wills, so this is NOT his first Topps card. > Thanks for reading this far! Here's the 1959 World Series highlight reel, > starting at game 5. > https://youtu.be/2U7v4YeyZcY?t21m21s > Those highlights really demonstrate the non-baseball stadium aspects of > playing in the LA Coliseum. Lots of unusual things the fielders had to > account for, not just the ghosted football lines. > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 23:06:02 -0600 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay : OBC grade 1973 Topps set $129 + $20 shipping From: James Silva Thanks for the heads up - I needed the Schmidt and many high numbers (And some dupes!) so I pulled the trigger. Jim "El Fuego=E2=9D Silva #25 > On Aug 10, 2015, at 9:13 PM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Huh, I thought full sets were much pricier these days! > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-TOPPS-COMPLETE-BASEBALL-SET-1-660-POOR-TO-VG-/191658928570?hashitem2c9fc329ba > Spike ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 00:12:58 -0500 To: "" Subject: One step closer From: john harrell After picking up a high number Batter Up my list is down to 10. This completes my 2015 goals. Keeping my fingers crossed on one of the remaining 2 WWG's i need. ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 02:04:10 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: White Plains Show From: ChicoD1@aol.com Anyone heading up to White Plains this weekend? I might be coerced to take a ride over the bridge if there are a few OBCers making the trek... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 06:52:04 -0400 To: ddejong17@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: who collects what? what? From: Tom Housley Not sure if this will help - but have you cleared your browser history? I seem to recall someone else had a similar problem to yours. However, clearing their browser history cleared up the problem - they weren't getting a refreshed page b/c their magic computer interweb thingie was pulling up a cached version of the page. Tom Housley ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:30:04 -0400 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: who collects what? what? From: Joel Freedman There is a known issue where web pages imbedded with in other web pages do not allow for proper web page opening. Wayne Delia can explain best if the situation is presented to him. He fixed the link for my page and now it works properly. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Doug, > Not sure if this will help - but have you cleared your browser history? I > seem to recall someone else had a similar problem to yours. However, > clearing their browser history cleared up the problem - they weren't > getting a refreshed page b/c their magic computer interweb thingie was > pulling up a cached version of the page. > Tom Housley ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:44:23 -0500 To: "" Subject: Who collects what kists From: john harrell I wholeheartedly agree with previous comments about Who Collects What. I use this feature a lot when sending cards out and it is very frustrating to see someone's name on a list, click their link and find out that that set is not on their want list. It is very simple to go to your profile page and put in sets you are working on or remove them if you are not. As most of us are very busy and don't have a lot of time to randomly search lists, please take a moment to update your profile and add or remove sets from the Who Collects What page. ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 08:48:13 -0500 To: "" Subject: Can't access wantlists from Who Collects What From: john harrell I stumbled on a simple solution to this problem. Use the wantlist link on the Directory page to get to wantlists not aqccessible from Who Collects What. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:42:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: who collects what? what? From: Taylor Schock Even so, an easy work around. Just open another tab with the OBC directory listing and use it directly (rather than the WCW link). This is not NEARLY as frustrating (as others have pointed out) as an out-of-date Who Collect's What page, IMO. Although.... By the time I go to your page the third time only to find this is the thirdset that you said you collected which doesn't appear on your want list forthe third time, it does make my life a bit easier by not even going to your want list anymore. I realize we're busy and each person needs to update their own, but as in baseball, it's still 3 strikes and you're out (for me anyway). To: directorth@aol.com CC: ddejong17@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:30:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: who collects what? what? There is a known issue where web pages imbedded with in other web pages do not allow for proper web page opening. Wayne Delia can explain best if thesituation is presented to him. He fixed the link for my page and now it works On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Not sure if this will help - but have you cleared your browser history? I seem to recall someone else had a similar problem to yours. However, clearing their browser history cleared up the problem - they weren't getting a refreshed page b/c their magic computer interweb thingie was pulling up a cached version of the page. Tom Housley ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:58:58 -0400 To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: who collects what? what? From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Maybe a clarification of the rules/expectations is needed. Must a member's WCW and Want List pages be the same? One may say they collect 1952 Topps but own too few to publish a long Want List. Or, should that member then list a Have List? A clarification may reduce the frustration, as would an updated website. Best regards, In a message dated 08/11/2015 3:42:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Even so, an easy work around. Just open another tab with the OBC directory listing and use it directly (rather than the WCW link). This is not NEARLY as frustrating (as others have pointed out) as an out-of-date Who Collect's What page, IMO. Although.... By the time I go to your page the third time only to find this is the third set that you said you collected which doesn't appear on your want list for the third time, it does make my life a bit easier by not even going to your want list anymore. I realize we're busy and each person needs to update their own, but as in baseball, it's still 3 strikes and you're out (for me To: directorth@aol.com CC: ddejong17@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:30:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: who collects what? what? There is a known issue where web pages imbedded with in other web pages do not allow for proper web page opening. Wayne Delia can explain best if the situation is presented to him. He fixed the link for my page and now it works properly. On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 6:52 AM, Tom Housley _directorth@aol.com_ (mailto:directorth@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Not sure if this will help - but have you cleared your browser history? I seem to recall someone else had a similar problem to yours. However, clearing their browser history cleared up the problem - they weren't getting refreshed page b/c their magic computer interweb thingie was pulling up a cached version of the page. Tom Housley ================= Date: 11 Aug 2015 13:28:22 -0700 To: Subject: Some HOF waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:48:36 -0400 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: who collects what? what? From: Wes Shepard To do RAOK hits, I generally just open up wantlists from the directory, by member name, not wcw. The raok should mean "hey, i went to your webpage and searched my dupes box, finding this card, hope it helps!" ... A waiver offering should fit "hey,got a bunch of 59 topps, 1-350, anyone need any? Let me know." Just the way I do it. Thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 11, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Doug, > Not sure if this will help - but have you cleared your browser history? Iseem to recall someone else had a similar problem to yours. However, clearing their browser history cleared up the problem - they weren't getting a refreshed page b/c their magic computer interweb thingie was pulling up a cached version of the page. > Tom Housley ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:44:58 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1972 Sunoco stamps football From: Joel Freedman i have about a sixth of the set and am looking for a ship load. Any body have any that need a home? ================= Date: 11 Aug 2015 18:42:27 -0700 To: Subject: Small Waiver From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:43:46 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: eBay seller with some low-profile vintage lots From: Matthew Glidden This seller has several vintage card lots and some singles that aren't fully described, so might slip under the radar for most bidders. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_sac=1&_ssn=iamthepumpkinking&hash=item5422c6c1cf&item=361360703951&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR9.TRC0.A0.H0.Xcards.TRS1&_nkw=cards&_sacat=0 ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:43:43 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: "Who Collects What" From: LAWRENCE TIPTON So I just updated my =E2=9CWho Collects What=E2=9D=E2=A6. I removed a few sets I have completed. I removed 1952 Bowman (and a few other sets) baseball cause all I need is Musial and Mays. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around does it make noise? If I =E2=9Ccollect=E2=9D 1949 Bowman and the only card I need is #50 (Jackies RC) should I list that set? Hey the County Road Dept FINALLY came yesterday and scraped off my drivewayso that when I exit my yard it=E2=99s not like I=E2=99m climbing a mountain! I need more coffee ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:56:21 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Amazing! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON me: Canada Dry diet Cranberry Ginger Ale is AMAZING! daughter: But it contains Mailc Acid, Sodium Citrate, Aspartame, Red #4, Blue #1, phenylketonirics, and phenylalanine! me: Canada Dry diet Cranberry Ginger Ale SUCKS! ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 12:18:19 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1952 topps look-n-see From: Sean McGowan Anyone working on this set? I have several dupes, and before I unload the lot on evil-bay, I want to make sure there are no lists to hit here. Go OBC! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:35:50 -0400 Subject: AUTOGRAPHS From: Shawn Smart Hi OBC - I know nothing about slabbing cards and all of that and to me a PSA is a Public Service Annoucement, but is there some sort of similar service that will deem an autograph authentic or fake? ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:22:34 -0400 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] AUTOGRAPHS From: Matthew Glidden PSA offers a similar autograph service for many items, though I can imagine it's more reliable if you also have provenance for the auto in question. On Wednesday, August 12, 2015, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi OBC - > I know nothing about slabbing cards and all of that and to me a PSA is a > Public Service Annoucement, but is there some sort of similar service that > will deem an autograph authentic or fake? > Thanks. ================= To: "'Shawn Smart'" , Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 10:41:06 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] AUTOGRAPHS From: "Grant Rainsley" JSA seems respected in that world...and they have made exactly the same amount of money off of me as PSA has......diddly-squat. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:36 AM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] AUTOGRAPHS Hi OBC - I know nothing about slabbing cards and all of that and to me a PSA is a Public Service Annoucement, but is there some sort of similar service that will deem an autograph authentic or fake? ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:32:16 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1974 F&b team checklist blank backs From: anthony.senthi@gmail.com Hello all, Anyone collecting these hard to find cards. They were mila in which came ina sheet. Mostly you find them cut.mi need two and have a couple of dupes. Anthony arbeeny Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 21:51:24 -0400 To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller with some low-profile vintage lots From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Thanks for the tipoff. I am currently the high bidder for 3 GUM Adventure Boxing cards (only need #76 from the group) and the May 25 1957 Topps game Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc ramblings Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 11:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller with some low-profile vintage lots This seller has several vintage card lots and some singles that aren't fully described, so might slip under the radar for most bidders. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_sac1&_ssniamthepumpkinking&hashitem5422c6c1cf&item361360703951&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trk= ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:34:48 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] AUTOGRAPHS From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en JSA seems to be the one that is big on auto's. They are going to be at White Plains and they show up at the LI National in October. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/12/2015 1:37:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi OBC - I know nothing about slabbing cards and all of that and to me a PSA is a Public Service Annoucement, but is there some sort of similar service that will deem an autograph authentic or fake? ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:41:15 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Amazing! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Me: Cheesecake is AMAZING! Dogs: But it contains cheese and stuff, you should give it to us! Me: NOPE! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/12/2015 6:56:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: me: Canada Dry diet Cranberry Ginger Ale is AMAZING! daughter: But it contains Mailc Acid, Sodium Citrate, Aspartame, Red #4, Blue #1, phenylketonirics, and phenylalanine! me: Canada Dry diet Cranberry Ginger Ale SUCKS! ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:44:05 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I haven't been there in more than a few years. Not sure how good it is, but it's only an hour from me and a toll or two. Anyone have any recent input? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/12/2015 7:57:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jimivintage@yahoo.com writes: I was thinking about doing it.....and unbelievably I have "semi-permission" to make the 10 hour trip! lol Will it be worth the trip???? From: "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show Anyone heading up to White Plains this weekend? I might be coerced to take a ride over the bridge if there are a few OBCers making the trek... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:46:54 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller with some low-profile vintage lots From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL I have the game card book marked also. I won't put in a bid until the last few hours to see how the bidding goes... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/12/2015 9:51:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Thanks for the tipoff. I am currently the high bidder for 3 GUM Adventure Boxing cards (only need #76 from the group) and the May 25 1957 Topps game card. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc ramblings Sent: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 11:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay seller with some low-profile vintage lots This seller has several vintage card lots and some singles that aren't fully described, so might slip under the radar for most bidders. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_sac1&_ssniamthepumpkinking&hashite ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 01:20:09 -0400 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: My National Experience (this is going to be a LONG one...) From: ChicoD1@aol.com Well boys, Most of my cards have made it to their proper boxes/binders. Time to reflect on what was the 2015 National. Started off getting in Sunday, meeting up with Kent for a steak dinner at Texas Roadhouse. We always find things to shoot the shit about and this year was no different. We are running out of things to explore in Chicago. Only thing left is the Planetarium. The best part of the week for me, is catching up with some old OBC friends and meeting some new ones. Mission accomplished on all fronts there. I'll just throw out some random thoughts about the week in Chicago. I always have fun when we all get together and this was no different. I got my pictures with a couple of hotties in Chicago. Saw some sites aboard the double decker bus tour. Got to hang with the guys while stuffing my face (a favorite past time, besides getting a pic with the waitresses!). Dinner at Mother Hubbards never disappoints. Damn good food for a pub style place. And with all that I only gained ONE pound! Got to hang with Mike McCann, as we took him to the Navy Pier for a walk around at night. A very cool bunch of guys he hangs with. The show was everything I wait a year for. Attacked Mike's table, spent the most money at Kurt's and Jerry's (what else is new). Spent quite a bit of time with Ron Estes, as he had a bin that I would not leave until I saw every card in it. Highlights of the show for me...Steve brought me to temple as he had me celebrate every day of Chanukah, bringing me some kinds of cards every day LOL. Got a ton of handshakes. Hopefully I thanked everyone properly at the National. If I missed anyone, let me know, so I can fix that. My bunions had bunions by the time I was writing those. I may have cursed myself with the Housleys Heroes OBC card set. Tom didn't even see it and has already created like 15 subsets! I have my work cut out for me for sure for next year. I have some handshakes that I missed like Jason and TJ. Those will hit the mail hopefully this week. TJ was with us the whole time there. We know how much you were looking forward to this. Just wasn't the time yet dude. We want you in peak condition for the next one. Aaron did a FANTASTIC job on the shirts. I will be wearing mine if I go up to White Plains this Saturday. I wore all 3 generations of OBC clothing, pics will be posted one of these days. Got to meet the vice-president of ST L Cardinal cards, Mark Z (sorry Kent is #1 because he is like 40 years older than you lol). All in all, I didn't finish anything. I did make 18 of 21 goals posted this year. Nope, didn't get the Mantle (although someone gave me a great reprint that sits in the open binder slot), didn't finish the 64 Giants or coins, but came close. Missed my goals by 5 cards. Now that my year is ended, I will post some new ones (among them to sort out my basketball and football cards and start a few of those). I did start some new sets: 1964 Standups, Berk Ross and Exhibits Dodgers, 1963 Bazooka and Ken (needs a beating) as he goes, "here" and before I could pull my arm back, my hand was holding 4 Red Man's. Oh well, since I'm on the OBC-AC, I have to follow the rules and now I am collecting them! I went in looking to take home at least one of the big 4 I needed. By Sat I had adjusted my big hits when JD had a 52T set that he broke up. So needless to say, I picked off 3 major Dodgers off the list (one being #1 card) for $200. Broke my record for the most I have ever spent on a card by getting Joe Black. Mike McCann was great to us. Put out boxes of penny cards, 25 cent cards and 50 cent cards. At the end of it all, I grabbed all the remainders from the swap and at the lovely price of $37.00, Kent was kind enough to ship them to me. These will be set up as waivers, once I sort em out. THAT is going to take a while. I'll ask that if you take some of these off my hands, that you help me with shipping (in cash or cards). Lots from the 70s were left over. I am seeing some 60s also. There are some football and hockey also. Went to my first Net54 dinner. Kind of disappointed, but I think it's because everyone went to dinner before the dinner. Maybe next year I'll ask Leon to be a speaker about this great group, our philosophy, and the varied ways we collect cards. I've said it before and I'll say it again. This group amazes me! I learn more about this hobby every time I see you guys. Ken shows off his 1949 Leaf set. Guru has become a T-card maniac. I was so impressed how Larry has taken to those cards. He is totally on point. Kent upgraded a bunch of his cards. Mac always shows me something I will never own LOL. Spike has the best card ever that he has to post. It's how to save a life doing CPR. Spike, post that Nabisco, it's a classic! Mark ran the auction, of which I was lucky enough to win a Bob Feller/ Steve Carlton + others signed baseball. It's in a holder on my shelf. More as a memory of 2015 OBC than the signatures The rookies acclimated themselves quite well. I hope you guys enjoyed yourself and make this a yearly ritual as I have. Never be afraid to ask a question or for help. We are all family here. I'll have the itch for the next one like..TOMORROW. 23 years of OBC for me. Sometimes I just shake my head and laugh about how cool this group is of people "collecting pictures of men on cardboard". Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 08:42:00 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The last great marketplace? From: LAWRENCE TIPTON For collectors it=E2=99s hands down eBay. On Net54, the dealers constantly complain about eBay. They complain about the sellers fees. They complainabout eBays return policy ,which seems to be if you pay with PayPal you can return just about anything if you have a good reason! I=E2=99ve dabbled a bit in some of the Auctions, and it=E2=99s great to get the catalogs, but 15-20% buyers fees tacked on? These Auctions are great if your a seller, but I haven=E2=99t been getting many bargains! Some of the Auctions are pretty good, better than the others, and I=E2=99ll throw out one recommendation: Joes Vintage http://www.jvscauctions.com Those of you filling out your 50s and 60s sets should check this auction out! Joes has a big eBay presence too. One of the best features is if you payvia PayPal $3 to ship (multiple wins are more), free if you mail them a check! You just place your max bid, and forget it! And I=E2=99ve won plenty of lots BELOW my max bid which is rare with some of these auctions! Joes runs an auction every week, and they end on Tuesday PM I think. Plenty of off grade T206 cards raw singles and lots! But like I said, you just bid your MAX and forget it, you don=E2=99t have to be there at the end of the auction. Very much recommended! Back to eBay. If you want to increase your winning bids and reduce your headaches, you=E2=99ve GOT to be using a sniper service! There are a few sniper services out there, I use Gavel Snipe and have had nearly flawless results! It=E2=99s free! It=E2=99s legal and eBay approved! Please tell me everyone is using a snipe service! http://www.gavelsnipe.com You find an item you want on eBay, then copy the URL for the item that=E2=99s on the top of the page. Paste this URL into Gavel Snipe, and enter your MAX bid. Gavel Snipe does the rest and it=E2=99s for free. Be prepared to greatly increase your eBay winnings! ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 08:52:30 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: The Last Great Marketplace From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I forgot to add one thing about eBay, the "eBay Bucks" program. For months I ignored all the messages from eBay about signing up for their "Ebay Bucks=E2=9D program. After seeing some messages on Net54 I signed up. I don=E2=99t know exactly how it works, but you earn =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D with every purchase. When you check out you just elect to use your =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D for part of the purchase price. And I=E2=99ve even got some messages from Ebay that during certain times you ears 4X =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D???? It=E2=99s like free money? ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 09:02:46 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: The Last Great Marketplace From: Jimi Thayer Oh wow....you ignored them? That might be the best thing they do! =81 Last quarter I earned nearly $60 of free money and used it all to gotowards buying my daughter a fast pitch bat. Never pass by free stuff! =E2=BA=EF=B8=8F Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:52 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I forgot to add one thing about eBay, the "eBay Bucks" program. For months I ignored all the messages from eBay about signing up for their "Ebay Bucks=E2=9D program. After seeing some messages on Net54 I signed up. I don=E2=99t know exactly how it works, but you earn =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D with every purchase. When you check out you just elect to use your =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D for part of the purchase price. And I=E2=99ve even got some messages from Ebay that during certain times you ears 4X =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D???? It=E2=99s like free money? > Guru ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 09:05:24 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The last great marketplace? From: Jimi Thayer All great stuff, GURU! I use gavel snipe, too and highly recommend. Why bid up the price in front everyone when you can sneak in at the end and get it cheaper! =89 Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:42 AM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > For collectors it=E2=99s hands down eBay. On Net54, the dealers constantly complain about eBay. They complain about the sellers fees. They complain about eBays return policy ,which seems to be if you pay with PayPal you can return just about anything if you have a good reason! > I=E2=99ve dabbled a bit in some of the Auctions, and it=E2=99s great to get the catalogs, but 15-20% buyers fees tacked on? These Auctions aregreat if your a seller, but I haven=E2=99t been getting many bargains! Some of the Auctions are pretty good, better than the others, and I=E2=99ll throw out one recommendation: > Joes Vintage > http://www.jvscauctions.com > Those of you filling out your 50s and 60s sets should check this auction out! Joes has a big eBay presence too. One of the best features is if you pay via PayPal $3 to ship (multiple wins are more), free if you mail them a check! You just place your max bid, and forget it! And I=E2=99ve won plenty of lots BELOW my max bid which is rare with some of these auctions! Joes runs an auction every week, and they end on Tuesday PM I think. Plenty ofoff grade T206 cards raw singles and lots! But like I said, you just bid your MAX and forget it, you don=E2=99t have to be there at the end of theauction. Very much recommended! > Back to eBay. If you want to increase your winning bids and reduce your headaches, you=E2=99ve GOT to be using a sniper service! There are a few sniper services out there, I use Gavel Snipe and have had nearly flawless results! It=E2=99s free! It=E2=99s legal and eBay approved! Please tell me everyone is using a snipe service! > http://www.gavelsnipe.com > You find an item you want on eBay, then copy the URL for the item that=E2=99s on the top of the page. Paste this URL into Gavel Snipe, and enter your MAX bid. Gavel Snipe does the rest and it=E2=99s for free. Be prepared to greatly increase your eBay winnings! > Guru ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:57:11 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The last great marketplace? From: TJ Valacak Hi gang Wanted to also give a thumbs up on Joes Auctions. A lot of nice material on a week to week basis. Best part of the auction is the set few on shipping. Love it. No additional buyers premium added on. Gavelsnipe looks good. Guru turned me on to that site as well. I signed up,but haven't used it as of yet. Just haven't done anything on eBay since before the National. Anyways, Joes is definitely worth a check. And I will have to look into these eBay bucks Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 7:42 AM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > For collectors it=E2=99s hands down eBay. On Net54, the dealers constantly complain about eBay. They complain about the sellers fees. They complain about eBays return policy ,which seems to be if you pay with PayPal you can return just about anything if you have a good reason! > I=E2=99ve dabbled a bit in some of the Auctions, and it=E2=99s great to get the catalogs, but 15-20% buyers fees tacked on? These Auctions aregreat if your a seller, but I haven=E2=99t been getting many bargains! Some of the Auctions are pretty good, better than the others, and I=E2=99ll throw out one recommendation: > Joes Vintage > http://www.jvscauctions.com > Those of you filling out your 50s and 60s sets should check this auction out! Joes has a big eBay presence too. One of the best features is if you pay via PayPal $3 to ship (multiple wins are more), free if you mail them a check! You just place your max bid, and forget it! And I=E2=99ve won plenty of lots BELOW my max bid which is rare with some of these auctions! Joes runs an auction every week, and they end on Tuesday PM I think. Plenty ofoff grade T206 cards raw singles and lots! But like I said, you just bid your MAX and forget it, you don=E2=99t have to be there at the end of theauction. Very much recommended! > Back to eBay. If you want to increase your winning bids and reduce your headaches, you=E2=99ve GOT to be using a sniper service! There are a few sniper services out there, I use Gavel Snipe and have had nearly flawless results! It=E2=99s free! It=E2=99s legal and eBay approved! Please tell me everyone is using a snipe service! > http://www.gavelsnipe.com > You find an item you want on eBay, then copy the URL for the item that=E2=99s on the top of the page. Paste this URL into Gavel Snipe, and enter your MAX bid. Gavel Snipe does the rest and it=E2=99s for free. Be prepared to greatly increase your eBay winnings! > Guru ================= To: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:45:13 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show From: Bob Reed I'll be heading back from Florida after dropping my daughter off at collegeand will try to time it so I'll get to White Plains around 11 or 12 on Saturday so I can spend a couple of hours at the show. To: ChicoD1@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:57:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show I was thinking about doing it.....and unbelievably I have "semi-permission" to make the 10 hour trip! lol Will it be worth the trip???? From: "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show Anyone heading up to White Plains this weekend? I might be coerced to take a ride over the bridge if there are a few OBCers making the trek... DominoOBC - 1992 ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:24:48 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show From: richard dingman I think the White Plains show is often a good one, but driving 10 hours (each way??) seems way too much in order to spend one day at any show (IMO). I always calculate how much it's going to cost me in $ and time to attend (driving, parking, admission) a show and then balance that with what I might likely find at the show, to see if I can get a feel for whether it is worth it to go, or would I be better off spending the money on ebay or some such. One thing about White Plains is that, though they charge for parking ($7 or$10, I can't recall),it is possible to park a few hundred yards down the street in a mall type lot for free. If you go, let us know how it went. Richard D To: ChicoD1@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 23:57:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show I was thinking about doing it.....and unbelievably I have "semi-permission" to make the 10 hour trip! lol Will it be worth the trip???? From: "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 2:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] White Plains Show Anyone heading up to White Plains this weekend? I might be coerced to take a ride over the bridge if there are a few OBCers making the trek... DominoOBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:01:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Just checking in with new OBCer From: Joshua Levine As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, effort, and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and born via an emergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:02:50 -0400 To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer From: biggies@aol.com Content-Language: en Major congrats Josh! In a message dated 8/13/2015 4:01:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, effort, and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and born via an emergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! ================= To: "'Joshua Levine'" , Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:05:37 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer From: "Grant Rainsley" Is he a southpaw, or a rightie? Congratulations to both! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:02 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, effort,and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and born via anemergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:21:32 -0400 To: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer From: Bob Donaldson Awesome news Josh. Saw the picture on facebook and he looks like a future big leaguer On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, > effort, and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed > Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and > born via an emergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is > finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). > Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! > Joshua ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 15:48:42 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: Road trip From: Rick I left marysville wa at 4:30 in the morning in a van with no AC towing a trailer. Seventeen and a half hours later we made it to billings MT. The whole trip 80's/90 degrees lets just say it was hot in the van. Got up at 5:30 the next morning to do it again fifteen hours later we made it to my brothers house in Kansas. For anyone keeping track it was just as hot the second day. Here till next Wednesday then fly out of Wichita to Denver to Seattle.Have a 2 1/2 hour layover in Denver but not long enough to do anything. Going to go to Wichita early to see if there are any card shops. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 17:49:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: just checking in with new OBCer From: Larry Tipton SO happy for you guys Josh! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:57:33 -0700 Subject: A little bit of cardboard-related Serendipity......... From: "Grant Rainsley" So last week, I was at our usual Wednesday rendezvous at the Legion. One of the chaps in the group and I got to talking about hobbies, etc. and how we keep busy in retirement. Turns out he dabbles in woodworking, and has done some gorgeous stuff. I gave him the concept of a card display idea I had.....and he was on it. Basically a small plank with an angled groove for displaying cards, which usually sit in a shoebox here unless I make the physical effort to dig them out, look at them, and put them away again. He made me a prototype, and it is so good, I'm not even thinking about changing it. Pictures attached....the permanent display comes later, and I figure on rotating the stock depending on the season...so after the Series, maybe there is an all Gordie Howe corner for the Winter, along with the Big M and the Rocket.. Why am I telling you this, you are asking yourselves.....I told him about OBC, and he was really interested in the group and what we do. He said if anyone wants some of these, he'll do them. You would be responsible for shipping costs of course from Canada. I had him make mine out of cedar, which is pretty light...and for pricing purposes, the 24" card display holder he built for me was 10 bucks. (No shipping for meJ) I found the 24" one a little bigger than I liked....and this morning placed an order for 4 more 10 inchers, and 2 X 16 inchers. He doesn't want a paper trail, so it would have to be cleverly concealed cash. And just a disclaimer, I'm not going to make a penny off this...if you want one, I'll take your order for you, since he isn't on the internet, and I'll pass your info on to him, and he can collect the money and ship.... I'm sure the groove he cut can be widened to fit slabs too, if you happen to be into that. Top loader works fine for me. I can't wait until the next time Mumsy goes into the rec room and looks for a DVD in the hutch....bit of a shock coming her way methinks. Ah well, life is full of surprises, isn't it? ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:57:52 -0500 To: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer From: TJ Valacak Congrats Josh! And don't forget the inserts on these modern sets! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 3:01 PM, "Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, effort, and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and born via an emergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). > Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! > Joshua ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 19:42:30 -0400 To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en WG Josh! I remember like it was yesterday, you were the youngster in the group. Now we have the protege' OBCer! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/13/2015 4:01:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, effort, and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and born via an emergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 19:46:43 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The last great marketplace? From: BBC Trading Just wanted to add my thumbs up for gavelsnipe.com. I used to use it all the time and it was great. It can seriously keep your final winning bid lowerthan you might think and save you plenty of money. You don't always win ofcourse but you never get in a bidder war with someone either. I don't use it as much lately since I'm usually bidding using the eBay app on my phone these Check it out if you have never used a snipe service before. Andy Huntoon OBC Rules! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:42 AM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > For collectors it=E2=99s hands down eBay. On Net54, the dealers constantly complain about eBay. They complain about the sellers fees. They complain about eBays return policy ,which seems to be if you pay with PayPal you can return just about anything if you have a good reason! > I=E2=99ve dabbled a bit in some of the Auctions, and it=E2=99s great to get the catalogs, but 15-20% buyers fees tacked on? These Auctions aregreat if your a seller, but I haven=E2=99t been getting many bargains! Some of the Auctions are pretty good, better than the others, and I=E2=99ll throw out one recommendation: > Joes Vintage > http://www.jvscauctions.com > Those of you filling out your 50s and 60s sets should check this auction out! Joes has a big eBay presence too. One of the best features is if you pay via PayPal $3 to ship (multiple wins are more), free if you mail them a check! You just place your max bid, and forget it! And I=E2=99ve won plenty of lots BELOW my max bid which is rare with some of these auctions! Joes runs an auction every week, and they end on Tuesday PM I think. Plenty ofoff grade T206 cards raw singles and lots! But like I said, you just bid your MAX and forget it, you don=E2=99t have to be there at the end of theauction. Very much recommended! > Back to eBay. If you want to increase your winning bids and reduce your headaches, you=E2=99ve GOT to be using a sniper service! There are a few sniper services out there, I use Gavel Snipe and have had nearly flawless results! It=E2=99s free! It=E2=99s legal and eBay approved! Please tell me everyone is using a snipe service! > http://www.gavelsnipe.com > You find an item you want on eBay, then copy the URL for the item that=E2=99s on the top of the page. Paste this URL into Gavel Snipe, and enter your MAX bid. Gavel Snipe does the rest and it=E2=99s for free. Be prepared to greatly increase your eBay winnings! > Guru ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 19:52:33 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The last great marketplace? From: Taylor Schock I've won numerous cards from Joe's auctions as well. The only other thing Iwould add is that Joe is a great guy as well. Probably goes hand-in-hand with how he runs his auctions. And not many dealers who you only see once a year at the National, and whenyou mention your name to them, their response is "Yeah, I remember you winning some auctions. And didn't you buy some T205s from me at the National 2years ago?" (which I did) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 08:42:00 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The last great marketplace? For collectors it=92s hands down eBay. On Net54, the dealers constantly complain about eBay. They complain about the sellers fees. They complainabout eBays return policy ,which seems to be if you pay with PayPal you can return just about anything if you have a good reason! I=92ve dabbled a bit in some of the Auctions, and it=92s great to get the catalogs, but 15-20% buyers fees tacked on? These Auctions are great if youra seller, but I haven=92t been getting many bargains! Some of the Auctionsare pretty good, better than the others, and I=92ll throw out one recommendation: Joes Vintage http://www.jvscauctions.com Those of you filling out your 50s and 60s sets should check this auction out! Joes has a big eBay presence too. One of the best features is if you payvia PayPal $3 to ship (multiple wins are more), free if you mail them a check! You just place your max bid, and forget it! And I=92ve won plenty of lots BELOW my max bid which is rare with some of these auctions! Joes runs an auction every week, and they end on Tuesday PM I think. Plenty of off grade T206 cards raw singles and lots! But like I said, you just bid your MAX and forget it, you don=92t have to be there at the end of the auction. Verymuch Back to eBay. If you want to increase your winning bids and reduce your headaches, you=92ve GOT to be using a sniper service! There are a few sniper services out there, I use Gavel Snipe and have had nearly flawless results! It=92s free! It=92s legal and eBay approved! Please tell me everyone is using a snipe service! http://www.gavelsnipe.com You find an item you want on eBay, then copy the URL for the item that=92s on the top of the page. Paste this URL into Gavel Snipe, and enter your MAXbid. Gavel Snipe does the rest and it=92s for free. Be prepared to greatlyincrease your eBay winnings! ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 19:57:10 -0400 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: The Last Great Marketplace From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I've used Ebay Bucks, but they are only good within that quarter. So unless you make a larger purchase and then make another within a few weeks, it's kind of useless. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/13/2015 8:52:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I forgot to add one thing about eBay, the "eBay Bucks" program. For months I ignored all the messages from eBay about signing up for their "Ebay Bucks=E2=9D program. After seeing some messages on Net54 I signed up. I don=E2=99tknow exactly how it works, but you earn =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D with everypurchase. you check out you just elect to use your =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D for part of the purchase price. And I=E2=99ve even got some messages from Ebay that during times you ears 4X =E2=9CEbay Bucks=E2=9D???? It=E2=99s like free money? ================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 22:52:33 -0600 To: obc ramblings Subject: Baseball cards of 1939 From: Matthew Glidden Lots of fun things on this "centennial" site, but the prewar details integrated into their baseball cards of 1939 page ties together several facts I hadn't heard before. Nice read. http://www.1939baseball.com/baseball_cards.html# ================= To: Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 08:22:48 -0500 Subject: Gavelsnipe From: "George Vrechek" Thought I'd compare results. I've also used Gavelsnipe, exclusively, for several years. They keep a history of your results. I've won 18% of 1,369 bids, although, it seems like less. The average bid price has been $10.45, which is believable since my card purchases are rather thrifty. I like it because you set your price and forget it. You aren't tempted to up the ante at the last moment. Sometimes I've lost out by nickels, but that doesn't mean much since the winning bidder may have set a top bid much higher. I don't think I've submitted a "normal" bid on eBay in many years unless it was for a buy-it-now or best offer listing. I'd be interested in anyone else's experience. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:11:14 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Gavelsnipe From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I=E2=99ve won 42% of 1,548 snipes. My average winning bid is $7.93 1548 total bids I won 657 My winning bids total $5,212 ================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:01:00 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1986 Springfield Cardinals General Admision Ticket Stubs From: Bob Donaldson Got a few, anyone want them? ================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:53:11 -0600 To: obc ramblings Subject: Fwd: AUTOGRAPHS From: Matthew Glidden Another autograph service follow-up below from Brandon for anyone I have one vintage baseball myself (1950 Red Sox team) that was validated by PSA and it includes a detailed breakdown of the names involved. The only problem was that they turned its Ted Williams auto the "wrong" way, so I have to display the case upside down for best effect. (Once validated, PSA sealed the ball holder to theoretically prevent tampering, so now I can't turn it around by hand.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brandon Date: Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:22 AM Subject: Re: AUTOGRAPHS To: "glidden.matthew@gmail.com" Hey, I have used psa, jsa, and sgc for authentication. Psa is the most respected, also the most expensive best resale. Jsa is pretty trusted but I think recently taking a hit, their 2 main authenticators went to sgc. I use sgc the most now because I really like their slabs the best, sturdier and nicer looking. Also they have monthly specials that I look for- this month is $8 for football autographs. Check their website for info. Youre just paying for people's opinions, but necessary if you want much resale value, but I mainly just like the look of slabbbed signed cards. Anyway if you need any more info let me know. I'm planning to send a few off this month. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 14 Aug 2015 10:31:00 -0700 To: Subject: now, this was my last trip of the summer From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:23:51 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: adding Topps upper Sets From: Robert Fitts Went to the White Plains show today and picked up starter sets from 1970 and 71 Topps Supers and added a few to my 1964 Giants. If anybody can help whittle down my want list, it would be greatly appreciated. 1964 Topps Giants want list 3 - Sandy Koufax SP 7 - Whitey Ford 8 - Roy McMillan 19 - Dick Groat 28 - Bob Friend SP 37 - Juan Marichal 41 - Bob Gibson 49 - Hank Aaron 51 - Willie Mays SP 52 - Billy Williams 59 - John Romano 60 - Bill Skowron SP 1970 Tops Supers 1 - Claude Osteen 3 - Luis Aparicio 5 - Tom Seaver 8 - Johnny Bench 10 - Sam McDowell 12 - Roberto Clemente 13 - Willie McCovey 14 - Rico Petrocelli 17 - Denny McClain 21 - Ron Santo 28 - Reggie Jackson 29 - Carl Yastrzemski34 - Pete Rose 35 - Jim Wynn 37 - Frank Robinson 38 - Boog Powell 40 - Billy Williams 42 - Tommie Agee 1971 Topps Super 1 - Reggie Smith 2 - Gaylord Perry 3 - Ted Savage 4 - Donn Clendenon 5 - Boog Powell 7 - Dick Bosman 8 - Alex Johnson 9 - Rusty Staub 10 - Mel Stottlemyre 12 - Bill Freehan 13 - Fritz Peterson 14 - Wes Parker 15 - Cesar Cedeno 16 - Sam McDowell 17 - Frank Howard 19 - Rico Petrocelli 20 - Pete Rose 21 - Luke Walker 22 - Nate Colbert 24 - Jim Perry 26 - Roy White 27 - ClaudeOsteen 28 - Carl Morton 30 - Larry Dierker 31 - Bert Campaneris 32 - Johnny Bench 34 - Tim McCarver 35 - Ron Santo 37 - Roberto Clemente 38 - Reggie Jackson 39 - Clyde Wright 40 - Rich Allen 41 - Curt Flood 43 - Willie Stargell 44 - Hank Aaron 45 - Amos Otis 47 - Bill Melton 48 - Bob Gibson 49 - Carl Yastrzemski 51 - Ray Fosse 52 - Cito Gaston 55 - Jim Northrup 56 - Willie Mays 57 - Sal Bando 58 - Deron Johnson 59 - Brooks Robinson 60 - Harmon Killebrew 63 - Tommy Harper ================= Date: 14 Aug 2015 17:48:06 -0700 To: Subject: 1970 Topps Poster Kirkpatrick #19 From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= Date: 14 Aug 2015 18:09:37 -0700 To: Subject: Presidents available on waivers From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 21:46:59 -0500 To: "JTysver1@msn.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Presidents available on waivers From: Jay Tysver Still have 2 available 1- Washington 27- Woodrow Wilson Jay Tysver > On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:09 PM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Waiver wire offer... > Eight cards from 1972 Topps Presidents available... > 1- George Washington **2 available > 15- James Buchanan > 21- Chester A Arthur (or Chet to his buds) > 23- Benjamin Harrison (Benny) > 27- Woodrow Wilson **2 available > 29- Calvin Coolidge > 32- Harry S Truman > 34- John F Kennedy > Let me know if you need > Jay Tysver ================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 23:35:25 -0600 To: Sal Domino Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My National Experience (this is going to be a From: Matthew Glidden > Spike has the best card ever that he has to post. It's how to save a life doing CPR. Spike, post that Nabisco, it's a classic! Hey Sal, You're in luck, there's more than one artificial respiration card out there! Not just Nabisco's interesting view of things... http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTA2WDY5NQ/z/rYQAAOxy5jxScRm5/$T2eC16R,!zQFIb4ERv0HBScRm466mw~~60_12.JPG http://images.nypl.org/index.php?id1135466&tw http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41FBkZeQcaL.jpg http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/127998817-artificial-respiration-sylvesters-method-gettyimages.jpg?v1&cIWSAsset&k2&d0uP54HMfPhOOi5jMqzVbm= On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 11:20 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Well boys, > Most of my cards have made it to their proper boxes/binders. Time to > reflect on what was the 2015 National. > Started off getting in Sunday, meeting up with Kent for a steak dinner at > Texas Roadhouse. We always find things to shoot the shit about and this > year was no different. We are running out of things to explore in Chicago. > Only thing left is the Planetarium. > The best part of the week for me, is catching up with some old OBC friends > and meeting some new ones. Mission accomplished on all fronts there. I'll > just throw out some random thoughts about the week in Chicago. I always > have fun when we all get together and this was no different. I got my > pictures with a couple of hotties in Chicago. Saw some sites aboard the > double decker bus tour. Got to hang with the guys while stuffing my face (a > favorite past time, besides getting a pic with the waitresses!). Dinner at > Mother Hubbards never disappoints. Damn good food for a pub style place. > And with all that I only gained ONE pound! Got to hang with Mike McCann, as > we took him to the Navy Pier for a walk around at night. A very cool bunch > of guys he hangs with. > The show was everything I wait a year for. Attacked Mike's table, spent > the most money at Kurt's and Jerry's (what else is new). Spent quite a bit > of time with Ron Estes, as he had a bin that I would not leave until I saw > every card in it. > Highlights of the show for me...Steve brought me to temple as he had me > celebrate every day of Chanukah, bringing me some kinds of cards every day > LOL. Got a ton of handshakes. Hopefully I thanked everyone properly at the > National. If I missed anyone, let me know, so I can fix that. My bunions > had bunions by the time I was writing those. I may have cursed myself > with the Housleys Heroes OBC card set. Tom didn't even see it and has > already created like 15 subsets! I have my work cut out for me for sure for > next year. > I have some handshakes that I missed like Jason and TJ. Those will hit the > mail hopefully this week. TJ was with us the whole time there. We know how > much you were looking forward to this. Just wasn't the time yet dude. We > want you in peak condition for the next one. Aaron did a FANTASTIC job on > the shirts. I will be wearing mine if I go up to White Plains this > Saturday. I wore all 3 generations of OBC clothing, pics will be posted one > of these days. Got to meet the vice-president of ST L Cardinal cards, Mark > Z (sorry Kent is #1 because he is like 40 years older than you lol). > All in all, I didn't finish anything. I did make 18 of 21 goals posted > this year. Nope, didn't get the Mantle (although someone gave me a great > reprint that sits in the open binder slot), didn't finish the 64 Giants or > coins, but came close. Missed my goals by 5 cards. Now that my year is > ended, I will post some new ones (among them to sort out my basketball and > football cards and start a few of those). I did start some new sets: 1964 > Standups, Berk Ross and Exhibits Dodgers, 1963 Bazooka and Ken (needs a > beating) as he goes, "here" and before I could pull my arm back, my hand > was holding 4 Red Man's. Oh well, since I'm on the OBC-AC, I have to follow > the rules and now I am collecting them! > I went in looking to take home at least one of the big 4 I needed. By Sat > I had adjusted my big hits when JD had a 52T set that he broke up. So > needless to say, I picked off 3 major Dodgers off the list (one being #1 > card) for $200. Broke my record for the most I have ever spent on a card by > getting Joe Black. > Mike McCann was great to us. Put out boxes of penny cards, 25 cent cards > and 50 cent cards. At the end of it all, I grabbed all the remainders from > the swap and at the lovely price of $37.00, Kent was kind enough to ship > them to me. These will be set up as waivers, once I sort em out. THAT is > going to take a while. I'll ask that if you take some of these off my > hands, that you help me with shipping (in cash or cards). Lots from the 70s > were left over. I am seeing some 60s also. There are some football and > hockey also. > Went to my first Net54 dinner. Kind of disappointed, but I think it's > because everyone went to dinner before the dinner. Maybe next year I'll ask > Leon to be a speaker about this great group, our philosophy, and the varied > ways we collect cards. > I've said it before and I'll say it again. This group amazes me! I learn > more about this hobby every time I see you guys. Ken shows off his 1949 > Leaf set. Guru has become a T-card maniac. I was so impressed how Larry has > taken to those cards. He is totally on point. Kent upgraded a bunch of his > cards. Mac always shows me something I will never own LOL. Spike has the > best card ever that he has to post. It's how to save a life doing CPR. > Spike, post that Nabisco, it's a classic! Mark ran the auction, of which I > was lucky enough to win a Bob Feller/ Steve Carlton + others signed > baseball. It's in a holder on my shelf. More as a memory of 2015 OBC than > the signatures itself. > The rookies acclimated themselves quite well. I hope you guys enjoyed > yourself and make this a yearly ritual as I have. Never be afraid to ask a > question or for help. We are all family here. I'll have the itch for the > next one like..TOMORROW. 23 years of OBC for me. Sometimes I just shake my > head and laugh about how cool this group is of people "collecting pictures > of men on cardboard". > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 00:06:46 -0600 To: obc ramblings Subject: Tart commentary on eve of 1935 World Series From: Matthew Glidden Students of history, check out Ed Hughes' column at upper right of Brooklyn's Daily Eagle Sports page prior to the 1935 World Series and its "fleeting, incomplete little array of thrills"... http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52605502/ ================= Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:07:19 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Contact help From: Bob Corvello Does anyone have Bama's email address. I have been trying to reach him with an address he used to use several years ago, but no luck. Bob Corvello ================= Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:56:27 -0400 To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer From: mikesportsfan@aol.com While congratulations are in order, unless you are doing it wrong the "effort" is usually enjoyable. -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2015 4:01 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Just checking in with new OBCer As some of you know, Tiffany and I have spent a great deal of time, effort,and money to have a child. After more than 4 years we welcomed Spencer Ryan Levine into the world on August 8th. He was 8 lbs. 10 oz. and born via anemergency c-section. Spencer spent some time in the NICU but is finally home today and doing great (as is Mom and Dad). Now I have to collect a 2015 set in his honor!! ================= Date: 15 Aug 2015 11:13:08 -0700 To: Subject: National reap From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:25:25 -0500 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Presenting the Sammy Taylor Twins From: TJ Valacak That Is. AWESOME Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 1:33 PM, "Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > Tom Housley ================= Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:23:56 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Presenting the Sammy Taylor Twins From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en This one better be out of the gray back/white back number range. I just can't do 2 sided cards...yet! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/15/2015 2:33:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Tom Housley ================= Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:51:57 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: White Plains show From: ChicoD1@aol.com Went to the White Plains show today. Wasn't a bad show. Biggest problem is space. The place is cramped and if people are waiting in line to get an autograph, that first row is impossible to navigate. I wore my newest OBC garb and it's amazing the 'celebrity' these carry. I saw a few who were at the National. One guy worked with Randy Kniffin and recognized me from the table. Walking around, a favorite of Richard Dingman's and mine, Lenny Svelnys saw me and even remembered my name. A very cool dude. He didn't have any vintage this time around, but plans on restocking for the LI show in October. I hear this southern voice in the background. Now who else has that voice other than Pat. He was very happy that he was invited to the swap and wondered if everyone else minded that he was there. I reassured him that he is one of "us" and is welcome any time! Bob Reed said he was going to go on his way home from Florida and we caught up after he beat the traffic in the area. I wasn't sure if he was going to make the National, but I did pull some cards just in case. At least I saved on postage, and it's a LOT more enjoyable to hand cards over in person. I did score a few deals. One table had a half off table with a few old Dodgers. Early on, I wanted a better deal. Bob came to me and showed me what he got (scored a 50B Hodges). Decided since the show is almost over, time to revisit. Wound up with a 53B Snider (3 hole punches for use on any Christmas tree) 52B Campy and a few others. The Snider and Campy wound up costing $10 each. Sometimes ya just gotta wait em out! I did also hit my 64T Giants with a Mays. Listed at $40, I wanted to be at $25. This was from a dealer we have dealt with before (The guy held up the "cheap" sign at one of the Nationals). He didn't make Chicago, but will be in NJ. I added a few cards to the mix and secured the Mays for the $25 I wanted to top out at. All in all, I'd probably go again. It's only an hour away and I got to see some dealers I don't usually get to see who had some nice stock. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 PS- I have posted my goals and Top 10 for the upcoming year. Already knocked a couple off the list :-)! ================= To: , Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 23:38:13 -0400 Subject: old british tobacco cards - non sport From: "Matt Yudt" Hi all Have a box of non-sports I'd like to offer for trades, or as a second resort, small amount of money Tonight's offerings: These seem pretty odd to me, but I imagine someone out there has interest: (number in brackets is about how many I have) 1939 Players toboacco - modern naval craft [~50] 1939 Players - Boy Scout and Girl guide [9] 1924 Players - Drum Banners and Cap Badges [~25] 1935 Players - Sea Fishes [~25] 1916 Players - Cries of London (2nd series) [~25] Send me an email if interested and we can get more specific. Matt Yudt ================= Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 17:27:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: anybody want 1963 Fleer # 2 and 27? From: Robert Fitts just send me your address if you want them. ================= Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 17:31:14 -0400 To: Ed Hutchinson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] anybody want 1963 Fleer # 2 and 27? From: Robert Fitts they are yours ed! On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Ed Hutchinson wrote: > I can use them rob if they are available > Thanks! > Ed Hutchinson > 764 pipes court > Sagamore hills oh 44067 > On Aug 16, 2015 5:27 PM, "Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > just send me your address if you want them. > rob ================= Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 18:06:14 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1954 Bowman From: Robert Fitts who out there is just beginning the 1954 Bowman set? I have a couple dozencommons that I=92d like to spread around but on the Who Collects What pageall the click throughs went to nearly finished sets rob fitts ================= Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 19:58:57 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Waivers From: ChicoD1@aol.com I sorted out the cards I picked up from the National and my stuff is nicely where they belong, as well as getting a jump on this years goals in White Plains. I'd like to spread these around. Any of you guys who didn't make the National, here is your chance to get authentic cards purchased at the 2015 National in Chicago! ALSO- Anyone working on 1970T, point me to your lists, I have sorted out those Mario Mendoza's from Mike McCann. Here's what I got- mainly OBC grade... 52B- 15, 114, 125, 228 57T- 45, 363 58T- 109, 300 59T- 94, 145, 149, 173, 200 (W), 207 (G), 209 (W), 254 (G), 256 (G), 262 (G), 274 (W), 291, 457, 466, 484, 505 61T- 134, 138, 146, 151, 219, 220, 223 62T- 120 63T- 8, 23, 44, 49 64T- 19, 22, 65, 309, 364, 569 66T- 575 67T- 578 69T- 107, 611 72T- 285, 313 73T- 477, 478 75T- 623 75T Mini- 3, 199 60F- 13 63F- 29 63 Bazooka ATG- 32 62T Stamps- Mets Logo, Phillies Logo 71 Milk Duds- McNally, Holzman (Both have glue on back from an album) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 20:21:25 -0400 Subject: non sport trade bait From: "Matt Yudt" Hi all No one was interested in the british tobacco cards I posted last night. Shocking. Well, send me a note if you want a type card from any of the sets I posted, be happy to send one along. Tonight - Point me to your wantlist or send it to me for the following: - Charlies Angels - - 1955 Rails & Sails (but only have Rails) - 1933 Goudey Indian Gum (Indians) ================= Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 21:30:11 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 1954 bowman all spoken for From: Robert Fitts ================= To: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 14:32:21 -0400 Subject: Hockey card question From: Hi Guys: I have a hockey card question, I have no clue what they are worth, but a trader in another group offered me a large hockey card lot for $85, here is what I get. 117 different from 1973-74 Topps 32 different from 1974-75 Topps 319 different from 1975-76 Topps I believe they are Ex or better and includes league leaders, teams and miner stars, is this a good deal? Thanks for your input. Nick Covello ================= To: "nickcov@snip.net" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 14:12:05 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Hockey card question From: GERALD TYSVER Its probably about average. The 75/76 set has a total of 330 cards in it and you'd be getting all but 11 of them. Still, its about what I'd expect to find these on Ebay for. My biggest concern is if the stars are pulled out on these (especially the 1975s), it would cost you just as much to replace them as it would simply buying a complete set. You can probably buy the set online for about $125. If this is just missing commons and a couple of stars, Its a good deal. Jay Tysver To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 14:32:21 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hockey card question Hi Guys: I have a hockey card question, I have no clue what they are worth, but a trader in another group offered me a large hockey card lot for $85, here iswhat I get. 117 different from 1973-74 Topps 32 different from 1974-75 Topps 319 different from 1975-76 Topps I believe they are Ex or better and includes league leaders, teams and miner stars, is this a good deal? Thanks for your input. Nick Covello ================= Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:46:45 -0600 To: GERALD TYSVER , "nickcov@snip.net" , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Hockey card question From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 01:34:02 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Who needs some 1970 Topps? From: Rob Bessette I have about 150 extras VG ballpark, some better. No stars or high numbers. I checked a couple lists, so some are already on their way, but if you need some, give me a shout. I also have for grabs... 1970 OPC #2611963 Jello Dick Groat #139 ================= Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:43:27 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: National Waivers From: ChicoD1@aol.com Hey kids, Quite a nice response to the waiver listing. Going to take me a few days to sort it all out. I want to try to make sure everyone who requested gets something from this list (and if not, I'll try to find something anyways!). I think this will give me a good head start on the goal of hitting as many OBCers as I can! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/16/2015 7:58:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ChicoD1@aol.com writes: I sorted out the cards I picked up from the National and my stuff is nicely where they belong, as well as getting a jump on this years goals in White Plains. I'd like to spread these around. Any of you guys who didn't make the National, here is your chance to get authentic cards purchased at the 2015 National in Chicago! ALSO- Anyone working on 1970T, point me to your lists, I have sorted out those Mario Mendoza's from Mike McCann. Here's what I got- mainly OBC grade... 52B- 15, 114, 125, 228 57T- 45, 363 58T- 109, 300 59T- 94, 145, 149, 173, 200 (W), 207 (G), 209 (W), 254 (G), 256 (G), 262 (G), 274 (W), 291, 457, 466, 484, 505 61T- 134, 138, 146, 151, 219, 220, 223 62T- 120 63T- 8, 23, 44, 49 64T- 19, 22, 65, 309, 364, 569 66T- 575 67T- 578 69T- 107, 611 72T- 285, 313 73T- 477, 478 75T- 623 75T Mini- 3, 199 60F- 13 63F- 29 63 Bazooka ATG- 32 62T Stamps- Mets Logo, Phillies Logo 71 Milk Duds- McNally, Holzman (Both have glue on back from an album) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:07:41 -0400 Subject: Gavelsniped it!! From: "Matt Yudt" Woo hoo! I mean, Choo CHoo!! That's right, my first ever gavelsnipe win - 1966 # 561 Choo Choo Coleman for a hair under $30! (and two hairs under my max). 4 more to go Thank you to who ever started that discussion the other day - should have been using this long ago. Matt Yudt ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 01:20:57 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: National Waivers- The Leftovers! From: ChicoD1@aol.com 20 Guys went virtual shopping at the National Waiver Wire! I did have one very interesting dilemma. Two people only asked for one card, and of course it was the same card. So I did the OBC tie-breaker method- who is closer to finishing the set. The other person will receive a consolation prize and some terrific parting gifts. Everyone that asked for something so far will be receiving SOMETHING (even that straggler John Stamper LOL). Nope, none of you were late to the party. These are the remaining waivers unclaimed as of yet (The post office will be operating in the black after I send these out, probably on the weekend): 62T Stamps- Mets Logo, Phillies Logo 64T- 65 63T- 8, 23, 44, 49 61T- 134, 138, 146, 151 75T- 623 I'll try to go through the 1970 requests later this week... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/16/2015 7:58:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ChicoD1@aol.com writes: I sorted out the cards I picked up from the National and my stuff is nicely where they belong, as well as getting a jump on this years goals in White Plains. I'd like to spread these around. Any of you guys who didn't make the National, here is your chance to get authentic cards purchased at the 2015 National in Chicago! ALSO- Anyone working on 1970T, point me to your lists, I have sorted out those Mario Mendoza's from Mike McCann. Here's what I got- mainly OBC grade... 52B- 15, 114, 125, 228 57T- 45, 363 58T- 109, 300 59T- 94, 145, 149, 173, 200 (W), 207 (G), 209 (W), 254 (G), 256 (G), 262 (G), 274 (W), 291, 457, 466, 484, 505 61T- 134, 138, 146, 151, 219, 220, 223 62T- 120 63T- 8, 23, 44, 49 64T- 19, 22, 65, 309, 364, 569 66T- 575 67T- 578 69T- 107, 611 72T- 285, 313 73T- 477, 478 75T- 623 75T Mini- 3, 199 60F- 13 63F- 29 63 Bazooka ATG- 32 62T Stamps- Mets Logo, Phillies Logo 71 Milk Duds- McNally, Holzman (Both have glue on back from an album) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:30:09 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Gavelsniped it!! From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally placea Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). Then I=E2=99ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already below what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove my snipe (3) do nothing. If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I=E2=99ll raise it up! A few times I=E2=99ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and watch the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. Just remember this when =E2=9Ctweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction end.** ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:06:57 -0400 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsnipe From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en I just registered with Gavelsnipe. They do not recommend submitting a bid less than 20 seconds before an auction ends. From my experience on EBay, this will cost you a lot of auction wins. Is the 20 seconds rec just an excess of caution by Gavelsnipe, or do they mean it? Best regards, In a message dated 08/18/2015 9:30:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally place a Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). Then I=E2=99ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove my snipe (3) do nothing. If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I=E2=99ll raise it up! A few times I=E2=99ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. Just remember this when =E2=9Ctweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:33:22 -0400 To: Chuck Salek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsnipe From: Bob Donaldson I've been using the default (20 secs) and its been ok. Could you have 2 snips, one at 20 sec (a safety) and one at 5 secs? On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I just registered with Gavelsnipe. They do not recommend submitting a bid > less than 20 seconds before an auction ends. From my experience on EBay, > this will cost you a lot of auction wins. > Is the 20 seconds rec just an excess of caution by Gavelsnipe, or do they > mean it? > Best regards, > Chuck > In a message dated 08/18/2015 9:30:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. > I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When > I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally place > a Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). > Then I=E2=99ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already > what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove > my snipe (3) do nothing. > If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. > Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the > bidding), I=E2=99ll raise it up! > A few times I=E2=99ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and > the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. > Just remember this when =E2=9Ctweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: > **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction > end.** > Guru ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 11:35:18 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsnipe From: Larry Tipton Mine are set at 20 seconds Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Bob Donaldson wrote: > I've been using the default (20 secs) and its been ok. Could you have 2 snips, one at 20 sec (a safety) and one at 5 secs? > Bob >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:06 AM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I just registered with Gavelsnipe. They do not recommend submitting a bid less than 20 seconds before an auction ends. From my experience on EBay, this will cost you a lot of auction wins. >> Is the 20 seconds rec just an excess of caution by Gavelsnipe, or do they mean it? >> Best regards, >> Chuck >> In a message dated 08/18/2015 9:30:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. >> I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally place a Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). >> Then I=E2=99ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already below what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove my snipe (3) do nothing. >> If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. >> Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I=E2=99ll raise it up! >> A few times I=E2=99ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down,and watch the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. >> Just remember this when =E2=9Ctweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: >> **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction end.** >> Guru ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 14:40:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! From: Taylor Schock You get what you pay for. Not that gavelsnipe is bad, but a couple points. I use Auction Defender, and have been for years. It has pros and cons as well. It's a yearly licensing fee ($15 I think) for up to 3 machines (and multiple users). It has worked so well for me that I've never really seriously considered going to something else. It is NOT web based (good and bad, depending how you look at it).I have my snipe time set at 4 (FOUR) seconds. Very rarely does it miss that. I've done it at less, but it gets a bit dicey.I can cancel my snipe at any time UP TO the actual snipe bid being placed.You can just "watch" items and don't have to set a snipe. It is only for ebay.Other features on history, bid groups, and other thingsthat are cool but I have used in the past (when I was more actively bidding) but rarely use today. The difference between my 4 seconds and gavelsnipe's recommendation of 20 seconds leads me to an interesting observation and question. I have seen my 4 second bid trigger and still get widely surpassed afterwards, usually andmaybe obviously, when I am looking to snipe something dirt cheap. I also see wide changes in bids WITHIN the last 20 seconds (and especially the last2 or 3), even if I'm just watching an item. This makes me question the claim around the sniping point of 20 seconds really being effective AS A SNIPE. If you are winning snipes with 20 seconds left, meaning that "my" 4 second snipe didn't beat yours, then wouldn't a flat bid have been just as effective within 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 days remaining? So while it may have helped with the automation of the bidding (set it and forget it), and you may have gotten it cheaper than your actual snipe bid, how effective was it in getting the item cheaper than if you didn't snipe at all and just flat bid? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:30:09 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally placea Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). Then I=92ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already below what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) removemy snipe (3) do nothing. If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I=92ll raise it up! A few times I=92ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and watch the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. Just remember this when =93tweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction end.** ================= To: "'Taylor Schock'" , Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:47:56 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! From: "Matt Yudt" Sorry for the maybe dumb question, but what does "NOT web based" mean? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:40 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! You get what you pay for. Not that gavelsnipe is bad, but a couple points. I use Auction Defender, and have been for years. It has pros and cons as * It's a yearly licensing fee ($15 I think) for up to 3 machines (and multiple users). It has worked so well for me that I've never really seriously considered going to something else. * It is NOT web based (good and bad, depending how you look at it). * I have my snipe time set at 4 (FOUR) seconds. Very rarely does it miss that. I've done it at less, but it gets a bit dicey. * I can cancel my snipe at any time UP TO the actual snipe bid being * You can just "watch" items and don't have to set a snipe. * It is only for ebay. * Other features on history, bid groups, and other things that are cool but I have used in the past (when I was more actively bidding) but rarely use today. The difference between my 4 seconds and gavelsnipe's recommendation of 20 seconds leads me to an interesting observation and question. I have seen my 4 second bid trigger and still get widely surpassed afterwards, usually and maybe obviously, when I am looking to snipe something dirt cheap. I also see wide changes in bids WITHIN the last 20 seconds (and especially the last 2 or 3), even if I'm just watching an item. This makes me question the claim around the sniping point of 20 seconds really being effective AS A SNIPE. If you are winning snipes with 20 seconds left, meaning that "my" 4 second snipe didn't beat yours, then wouldn't a flat bid have been just as effective within 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 days So while it may have helped with the automation of the bidding (set it and forget it), and you may have gotten it cheaper than your actual snipe bid, how effective was it in getting the item cheaper than if you didn't snipe at all and just flat bid? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:30:09 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally place a Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). Then I'll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already below what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove my snipe (3) do nothing. If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I'll raise it up! A few times I've watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and watch the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. Just remember this when "tweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction ================= To: "yudts5@verizon.net" , Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:53:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! From: Taylor Schock Not a dumb question. Both use the internet to access ebay, but I meant the application itself is installed and resides on your machine (desktop, laptop) rather than going to a URL to access the application. Sorry for not being From: yudts5@verizon.net To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:47:56 -0400 Sorry for the maybe dumb question, but what does =93NOT web based=94 mean? OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:40 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! You get what you pay for. Not that gavelsnipe is bad, but a couple I use Auction Defender, and have been for years. It has pros and cons as well. It's a yearly licensing fee ($15 I think) for up to 3 machines (and multiple users). It has worked so well for me that I've never really seriously considered going to something else. It is NOT web based (good and bad, depending how you look at it). I have my snipe time set at 4 (FOUR) seconds. Very rarely does it miss that. I've done it at less, but it gets a bit I can cancel my snipe at any time UP TO the actual snipe bid being placed. You can just "watch" items and don't have to set a snipe. It is only for ebay. Other features on history, bid groups, and other things that are cool but I have used in the past (when I was more actively bidding) but rarely use today. The difference between my 4 seconds and gavelsnipe's recommendation of 20 seconds leads me to an interesting observation and question. I have seen my4 second bid trigger and still get widely surpassed afterwards, usually and maybe obviously, when I am looking to snipe something dirt cheap. I also see wide changes in bids WITHIN the last 20 seconds (and especially the last 2 or 3), even if I'm just watching an item. This makes me question the claim around the sniping point of 20 seconds really being effective AS A SNIPE. If you are winning snipes with 20 seconds left, meaning that "my" 4 second snipe didn't beat yours, then wouldn't a flat bid have been just as effective within 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 days So while it may have helped with the automation of the bidding (set it and forget it), and you may have gotten it cheaper than your actual snipe bid, how effective was it in getting the item cheaper than if you didn't snipe at all and just flat bid? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:30:09 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally place a Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). Then I=92ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already below what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove my snipe (3) do nothing. If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I=92ll raise it up! A few times I=92ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and watch the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. Just remember this when =93tweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction end.** ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:28:41 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! From: richard dingman I just tried gavel snipe, having used Auction Sniper for many years. AS is fine but does cost a little. So I listed an ebay item with gavelsnipe and it ended up accepting the listing but eventually not submitting it because "Invalid Auction Site Usernameor Password", which they had never mentioned before when I made the listing, and I still don't know whattheir problem is. Obviously that sucks. So I am back to AS. Re the 20 seconds, that is plainly ridiculous. The last 20 seconds is whenalmost everything happens, and like Taylor says, most of the action is often in the last 2-3 seconds. If you can't submit a bid after the last 20 seconds, you might as well place it hours or days in advance and then pray that all the other interested parties have medical emergencies before the auction With AS, my timing is set to deliver the snipe at 3 seconds, and that has only been an issue once, in many years, when there were a lot of thunderstorms. Richard D To: yudts5@verizon.net; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:53:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Not a dumb question. Both use the internet to access ebay, but I meant the application itself is installed and resides on your machine (desktop, laptop) rather than going to a URL to access the application. Sorry for not being From: yudts5@verizon.net To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:47:56 -0400 Sorry for the maybe dumb question, but what does =93NOT web based=94 mean? OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:40 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! You get what you pay for. Not that gavelsnipe is bad, but a couple I use Auction Defender, and have been for years. It has pros and cons as well. It's a yearly licensing fee ($15 I think) for up to 3 machines (and multiple users). It has worked so well for me that I've never really seriously considered going to something else. It is NOT web based (good and bad, depending how you look at it). I have my snipe time set at 4 (FOUR) seconds. Very rarely does it miss that. I've done it at less, but it gets a bit I can cancel my snipe at any time UP TO the actual snipe bid being placed. You can just "watch" items and don't have to set a snipe. It is only for ebay. Other features on history, bid groups, and other things that are cool but I have used in the past (when I was more actively bidding) but rarely use today. The difference between my 4 seconds and gavelsnipe's recommendation of 20 seconds leads me to an interesting observation and question. I have seen my4 second bid trigger and still get widely surpassed afterwards, usually and maybe obviously, when I am looking to snipe something dirt cheap. I also see wide changes in bids WITHIN the last 20 seconds (and especially the last 2 or 3), even if I'm just watching an item. This makes me question the claim around the sniping point of 20 seconds really being effective AS A SNIPE. If you are winning snipes with 20 seconds left, meaning that "my" 4 second snipe didn't beat yours, then wouldn't a flat bid have been just as effective within 5 minutes or 5 hours or 5 days So while it may have helped with the automation of the bidding (set it and forget it), and you may have gotten it cheaper than your actual snipe bid, how effective was it in getting the item cheaper than if you didn't snipe at all and just flat bid? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:30:09 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Gavelsniped it!! Nice win Matt, I know this card is on a lot of OBCers wantlist. I have numerous saved searches on eBay, I think the max I am allowed. When I run through them, if I find any that I am interested in, I normally place a Gavel Snipe bid (rather than watch the item on ebay). Then I=92ll manage my bids on Gavelsnipe. If I see my snipe is already below what the current auction is, I can either (1) raise my Max bid (2) remove my snipe (3) do nothing. If I have second thought about a snipe, I can delete it. Sometimes, if I really want a card (even if my snipe is still leading the bidding), I=92ll raise it up! A few times I=92ve watched the eBay item as the seconds tick down, and watch the bidding go crazy during the last seconds of an item. Just remember this when =93tweeking" your Gavel Snipe bids: **WARNING: No changes or cancellations after 5 minutes prior to auction end.** ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: Larry Tipton What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduled four seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are unlikely to have time to respond.Guru Sent from my iPhone ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:50:00 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: richard dingman In my ebay experience, 20 seconds in the online auction world is like a geological age to Commander Data (of the Star Trek Enterprise), by which I mean, essentially an eternity. Most bid changes happen within the last coupleseconds, you can see this if you check out bid histories. And many snipers can re-bid more than once within 20 seconds, so they have time to respond. A possible similar example is around the issues of stock traders fighting to locate their servers as close as possible to stock market main computers.They don't just struggle (financially) over getting into the same building, or the same floor, but within the minimum number of feet, even inches, of cable distance. The reasoning being that if their machines can get information nanoseconds before their competitors, they can manipulate the markets and make billions. And they do. Welcome to the new world, which isn't even all that new anymore... Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduled four seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are unlikely to have time to respond.Guru Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:56:46 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Messages sent From: Yaz I may have asked this before but I get kinda spooked about it so I'm asking again. Are my messages to the 'Thanks' server being received? I ask this because early this year I had email problems when the I had to change internet companies. Now when I send messages they show up in my sent folder but I don't receive them back from the Thanks server like I used to. I get spooked thinking the Thanks I'm sending aren't really going to where they are supposed to. I have tried to figure this out why they don't come back to me but show up as being sent but have failed to. I guess the first thing is to find out if they are actually going out. Greg (yaz) ================= To: richard dingman , OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:30:55 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: Taylor Schock Yep. And if a bid comes in at 20 seconds, and higher than my 4 second snipe, I will still have a good 10 seconds (give or take) to up the snipe, if I am there and if I want to, that is. Another question on gavelsnipe, and apologies if it's been answered. I know you can't stop your bid with less than 5 minutes to go, but can you UP your bid with less than 5 minutes? I bid / snipe different ways depending on the item, same as I do at live auctions. Some are just dirt cheap bids / snipes. Some are for items I really want. And some in between.Sometimes I put in an initial bid and a snipe bid (you can do both in AD), but will consider raising my snipe bid if I see the current bid is less than the ebay increment of my snipe bid (within that dollar range) and we are getting down near the end. My theory is that I'd rather overbid by acouple bucks than lose the item over a couple bucks. Another thought, and piggybacks on what Richard is saying (about being geological). If you snipe with 20 seconds to go and are winning a high percentage of your auctions, then this might indicate you are regularly overpaying.;) Now when it finishes at 50% above my top bid, that's a whole other kettle of fish. LOL To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:50:00 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! In my ebay experience, 20 seconds in the online auction world is like a geological age to Commander Data (of the Star Trek Enterprise), by which I mean, essentially an eternity. Most bid changes happen within the last coupleseconds, you can see this if you check out bid histories. And many snipers can re-bid more than once within 20 seconds, so they have time to respond. A possible similar example is around the issues of stock traders fighting to locate their servers as close as possible to stock market main computers.They don't just struggle (financially) over getting into the same building, or the same floor, but within the minimum number of feet, even inches, of cable distance. The reasoning being that if their machines can get information nanoseconds before their competitors, they can manipulate the markets and make billions. And they do. Welcome to the new world, which isn't even all that new anymore... Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduled four seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are unlikely to have time to respond.Guru Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:07 -0500 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: Rick I agree with the 20 seconds that's way to long. I don't use a snipe servicebut did sign up and may use it a little. I get 95% of my cards from eBay and have lots of free time so I have always done my own sniping and yes sniping works. Because most auctions end in the evening and being on the west coast I'm usually up sitting in my chair when auctions end. The few times I really want something and I know I won't be home to snipe I put my max bid in early and almost always lose. I will probably start using gavelsnipe forthese situations. I also feel like sniping keeps the shill bidding down sothing tend to go for market value instead of letting people bid things up half way thru the auction. Sent from my iPad > On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:50 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > In my ebay experience, 20 seconds in the online auction world is like a geological age to Commander Data (of the Star Trek Enterprise), by which I mean, essentially an eternity. Most bid changes happen within the last couple seconds, you can see this if you check out bid histories. And many snipers can re-bid more than once within 20 seconds, so they have time to respond. > A possible similar example is around the issues of stock traders fightingto locate their servers as close as possible to stock market main computers. They don't just struggle (financially) over getting into the same building, or the same floor, but within the minimum number of feet, even inches,of cable distance. The reasoning being that if their machines can get information nanoseconds before their competitors, they can manipulate the markets and make billions. And they do. > Welcome to the new world, which isn't even all that new anymore... > Richard D > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! > What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduledfour seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are unlikely to have time to respond.Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:53:24 -0400 To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, brightair@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en I'm going to program my Gavelsnipe for 4 seconds and see what happens. I will use it only when I can't be there to do my own sniping. If I find that their 20 seconds is true, I'll deregister. They claim: "Seconds before each auction ends, GavelSnipe submits your bid from three bid servers (in separate cities)" With 3 servers acting simultaneously, they actually s/b able to succeed in 3 seconds. If not, I must question whether they have kept their technological "reason-for-being" up to date. Best regards, P.S. Since the service is free, how do they make money? Online advertising doesn't cut it anymore, from what I've read. In a message dated 08/18/2015 6:39:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I agree with the 20 seconds that's way to long. I don't use a snipe service but did sign up and may use it a little. I get 95% of my cards fromeBay and have lots of free time so I have always done my own sniping and yes sniping works. Because most auctions end in the evening and being on the west coast I'm usually up sitting in my chair when auctions end. The few times I really want something and I know I won't be home to snipe I put my max bid in early and almost always lose. I will probably start using gavelsnipe for these situations. I also feel like sniping keeps the shill bidding down so thing tend to go for market value instead of letting people bid things up half way thru the auction. Sent from my iPad On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:50 PM, richard dingman _brightair@msn.com_ (mailto:brightair@msn.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: In my ebay experience, 20 seconds in the online auction world is like a geological age to Commander Data (of the Star Trek Enterprise), by which I mean, essentially an eternity. Most bid changes happen within the last couple seconds, you can see this if you check out bid histories. And many snipers can re-bid more than once within 20 seconds, so they have time to A possible similar example is around the issues of stock traders fighting to locate their servers as close as possible to stock market main computers. They don't just struggle (financially) over getting into the same building, or the same floor, but within the minimum number of feet, even inches, of cable distance. The reasoning being that if their machines can get information nanoseconds before their competitors, they can manipulate the markets and make billions. And they do. Welcome to the new world, which i sn't even all that new anymore... Richard D To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) From: _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mai Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduled four seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are unlikely to have time to respond.Guru Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:30:39 -0400 To: Chuck Salek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: Bob Donaldson My Gavelsnipe preferences are at 7 seconds. I've been using it 6 years and I don't think I've had any problems On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:53 PM, bskp1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I'm going to program my Gavelsnipe for 4 seconds and see what happens. I > will use it only when I can't be there to do my own sniping. If I find that > their 20 seconds is true, I'll deregister. They claim: > "Seconds before each auction ends, GavelSnipe submits your bid from three > bid servers (in > separate cities)" > With 3 servers acting simultaneously, they actually s/b able to succeed in > 3 seconds. If not, I must question whether they have kept their > technological "reason-for-being" up to date. > Best regards, > Chuck > P.S. Since the service is free, how do they make money? Online advertising > doesn't cut it anymore, from what I've read. > In a message dated 08/18/2015 6:39:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > I agree with the 20 seconds that's way to long. I don't use a snipe > service but did sign up and may use it a little. I get 95% of my cards from > eBay and have lots of free time so I have always done my own sniping and > yes sniping works. Because most auctions end in the evening and being on > the west coast I'm usually up sitting in my chair when auctions end. The > few times I really want something and I know I won't be home to snipe I put > my max bid in early and almost always lose. I will probably start using > gavelsnipe for these situations. I also feel like sniping keeps the shill > bidding down so thing tend to go for market value instead of letting people > bid things up half way thru the auction. > Sent from my iPad > On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:50 PM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > In my ebay experience, 20 seconds in the online auction world is like a > geological age to Commander Data (of the Star Trek Enterprise), by which I > mean, essentially an eternity. Most bid changes happen within the last > couple seconds, you can see this if you check out bid histories. And many > snipers can re-bid more than once within 20 seconds, so they have time to > respond. > A possible similar example is around the issues of stock traders fighting > to locate their servers as close as possible to stock market main > computers. They don't just struggle (financially) over getting into the > same building, or the same floor, but within the minimum number of feet, > even inches, of cable distance. The reasoning being that if their machines > can get information nanoseconds before their competitors, they can > manipulate the markets and make billions. And they do. > Welcome to the new world, which i sn't even all that new anymore... > Richard D > ------------------------------ > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! > What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If > my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago > likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduled > four seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are > unlikely to have time to respond.Guru > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:37:10 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I use an app called SalSnipe. The way it works is this. I use the application on my phone called "alarm". I set it for about 7 minutes beforean auction ends. When I get "alarmed", I hit snooze and that gives me another 5 minutes to see where the bidding is and if I want to go over my initial price. I used to set it for 10-12 seconds, but I have found that I can hit a bid with 6 seconds, and rebid it up if that one is short with ebay's automatic rebid feature. 20 seconds is an eternity on Ebay. My bid takes MAX 2.5 seconds to clear. When it is winding down, I put in a number and hit "place bid". When it gets to 6 I hit confirm. Today I won a 54B Reese that way. Igot out bid, slapped the button to rebid to Ebay's higher number and won it at less than that number (all in 6 seconds). Picked up decent 54B Reese, Hodges and Campy for a total of 15 bucks. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/18/2015 6:39:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I agree with the 20 seconds that's way to long. I don't use a snipe service but did sign up and may use it a little. I get 95% of my cards fromeBay and have lots of free time so I have always done my own sniping and yes sniping works. Because most auctions end in the evening and being on the west coast I'm usually up sitting in my chair when auctions end. The few times I really want something and I know I won't be home to snipe I put my max bid in early and almost always lose. I will probably start using gavelsnipe for these situations. I also feel like sniping keeps the shill bidding down so thing tend to go for market value instead of letting people bid things up half way thru the auction. Sent from my iPad On Aug 18, 2015, at 4:50 PM, richard dingman _brightair@msn.com_ (mailto:brightair@msn.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: In my ebay experience, 20 seconds in the online auction world is like a geological age to Commander Data (of the Star Trek Enterprise), by which I mean, essentially an eternity. Most bid changes happen within the last couple seconds, you can see this if you check out bid histories. And many snipers can re-bid more than once within 20 seconds, so they have time to A possible similar example is around the issues of stock traders fighting to locate their servers as close as possible to stock market main computers. They don't just struggle (financially) over getting into the same building, or the same floor, but within the minimum number of feet, even inches, of cable distance. The reasoning being that if their machines can get information nanoseconds before their competitors, they can manipulate the markets and make billions. And they do. Welcome to the new world, which i sn't even all that new anymore... Richard D To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) From: _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:36:38 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsniped it!! What any seller wants is two or more bidders going after the same item. If my bid is placed with 20 seconds to go, the person who bid five days ago likely won't have a chance to rebid. Same holds true for your bid scheduled four seconds before auction closes. If my bid is higher than yours, you are unlikely to have time to respond.Guru Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:01:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Gavelsnipe From: "George Vrechek" I use 5 seconds and it has worked fine. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:12:48 -0600 To: George Vrechek , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Gavelsnipe From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 21:31:47 -0400 To: yazobc@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Messages sent From: Tom Housley I checked, and 1) You are subscribed to receive individual e-mails and 2) I found your most recent Thanks: <> So you should be all set to receive anything sent to Thanks. Tom Housley ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:40:47 -0400 Subject: Anybody trading 63 Salada coins? From: Mac Wubben My list isn't so tough...and I have a Clemente and Aaron to trade. Can anybody help out? Will trade in your favor. My 63 Salada Wantlist:7 Shaw 28 Mathews 31 Altman 44 Battey 48 Moran 51 Siebern 57 Maris 58 Colavito 59 Thomas Dupes:Aaron, Clemente Let me know... ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com Subject: A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Tom Housley Hi all, A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified dealer. (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory committee. I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) (8) How did you hear about OBC? A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. Tom Housley ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:27:10 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: richard dingman Can we find out his ebay handle? Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer Hi all, A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBCmembers. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amountof low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified dealer. (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory committee. I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) (8) How did you hear about OBC? A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) ifyou have feedback or recommendations. Tom Housley ================= To: "'richard dingman'" , Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:32:26 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: "Grant Rainsley" investinbaseball From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:27 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer Can we find out his ebay handle? Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer Hi all, A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified dealer. (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory committee. I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) (8) How did you hear about OBC? A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. Tom Housley ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:37:40 -0400 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Doug He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I have a number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he is notone of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. Sent from my iPad On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Can we find out his ebay handle? > Richard D > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > Hi all, > A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. > However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if thisdealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. > The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name InvestIn Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect theintent of the FAQ. > I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fillsets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified dealer. > (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory committee. > I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to himfor > (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? > (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. > (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. > (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) > Yes > (8) How did you hear about OBC? > A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. > So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > Thanks! > Tom Housley ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:54:41 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Jake Elwell I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of Alan"Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the creeps. That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worth adding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and then report back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collector whowants to join OBC. I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and see what deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I have anumber of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he is not one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> Can we find out his ebay handle? >> Richard D >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer >> Hi all, >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out:a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site,but here is the copied & pasted version: >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certifieddealer. >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisorycommittee. >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I seepop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBCreflect this ideology? >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, andany price guides you may use in determining values. >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do yousell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) >> Yes >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included)if you have feedback or recommendations. >> Thanks! >> Tom Housley ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:05:25 +0000 (UTC) To: Jake Elwell , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Rob Bessette I've had pretty good experiences with him. While I've never bought from him or sold him anything, he has been more than patient in explaining methe way he sells and flips cards and what he looks for. I learned a lot about dealer methods from him that have helped me make better purchasesfor I know he acquires a TON of inventory and mainly only dealswith high grade (he just got a PSA 10 1960 Mantle AS). So Iwouldn't be surprised if he had a bunch of low grade stuff that came along with some collections he buys. I'd be willing to be a guinea pig too, like Jake says, if that would help make an educated decision throughout the group. On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 2:54 PM, "Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the creeps. That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worth adding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and then report back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collector whowants to join OBC. I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and see what deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I have a number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he is not one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> Can we find out his ebay handle? >> Richard D >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer >> Hi all, >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out:a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site,but here is the copied & pasted version: >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certifieddealer. >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisorycommittee. >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I seepop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBCreflect this ideology? >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, andany price guides you may use in determining values. >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do yousell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) >> Yes >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included)if you have feedback or recommendations. >> Thanks! >> Tom Housley The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouragedon Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGSserver, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:32:39 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Mac Wubben I say that we give him a chance...have him send along a list to the group of a few things he is offering. Everybody wants to sell stuff...but think we should get a better deal if he wants access. Might be a good pairing. > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:54:41 -0400 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the creeps. > That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worth adding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and thenreport back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collector who wants to join OBC. > I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and see what deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > > > > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I havea number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he isnot one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. > > > > Doug > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > > >> > >> Can we find out his ebay handle? > >> > >> Richard D > >> > >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com > >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 > >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by amember - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. > >> > >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. > >> > >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > >> > >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are acircle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. > >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend toany OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified > >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory > >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? > >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? > >> > >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. > >> > >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. > >> > >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) > >> Yes > >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? > >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. > >> > >> > >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Tom Housley > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:37:58 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: richard dingman I thought we were going to allow certain dealers to offer to sell on our site, what ever happened to that? To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:32:39 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer I say that we give him a chance...have him send along a list to the group of a few things he is offering. Everybody wants to sell stuff...but think we should get a better deal if he wants access. Might be a good pairing. > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:54:41 -0400 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the creeps. > That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worth adding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and thenreport back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collector who wants to join OBC. > I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and see what deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > > > > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I havea number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he isnot one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. > > > > Doug > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > > >> > >> Can we find out his ebay handle? > >> > >> Richard D > >> > >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com > >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 > >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by amember - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. > >> > >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. > >> > >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > >> > >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are acircle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. > >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend toany OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified > >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory > >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? > >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? > >> > >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. > >> > >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. > >> > >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) > >> Yes > >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? > >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. > >> > >> > >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Tom Housley > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:41:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Jake Elwell Mac might be onto something -- have Bassik make up a list of what he thinksare primo low-grade offerings that we can all fight over - almost like a Dealer Scum post. That ought to make for a good "audition" for him. On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I say that we give him a chance...have him send along a list to the groupof a few things he is offering. Everybody wants to sell stuff...but thinkwe should get a better deal if he wants access. Might be a good pairing. > Mac > > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:54:41 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > > > > I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the creeps. > > > > That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worthadding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and then report back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collectorwho wants to join OBC. > > > > I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and seewhat deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > > > > > > > > > > > > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I have a number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he is not one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> Can we find out his ebay handle? > > >> > > >> Richard D > > >> > > >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com > > >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 > > >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi all, > > >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended bya member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. > > >> > > >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see ifthis dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. > > >> > > >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > > >> > > >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we area circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. > > >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely hugeamount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help membersfill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified > > >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > > >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory > > >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names Isee pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? > > >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution toOBC reflect this ideology? > > >> > > >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comesaround. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. > > >> > > >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements andcollect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements,and any price guides you may use in determining values. > > >> > > >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or doyou sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you fromconsideration from OBC) > > >> Yes > > >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? > > >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. > > >> > > >> > > >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> Tom Housley > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. > > > > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > > > > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > > > ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:40:05 -0400 To: Mac Wubben Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Joel Freedman I agree, we should have him send a list. Is there any reason why ALL of the certified dealers are not sending lists? On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I say that we give him a chance...have him send along a list to the group > of a few things he is offering. Everybody wants to sell stuff...but think > we should get a better deal if he wants access. Might be a good pairing. > Mac > > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:54:41 -0400 > > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > > > > I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy > collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of > Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the > creeps. > > > > That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worth > adding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade > cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps > the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and then > report back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collector > who wants to join OBC. > > > > I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and see > what deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do > similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > > > > > > > > > > > > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a > 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I have a > number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he is > not one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been > anyone I have bought from regularly. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com > [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> Can we find out his ebay handle? > > >> > > >> Richard D > > >> > > >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com > > >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 > > >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi all, > > >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for > admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a > request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual > way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always > recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't > allowed. > > >> > > >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled > out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from > five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see > if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified > status. > > >> > > >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name > Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC > site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > > >> > > >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and > intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we > are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old > baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading > philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. > > >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have > interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an > absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I > can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at > any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am > not added as a certified dealer. > > >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > > >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years > experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. > Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the > advisory committee. > > >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I > see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to > him for sponsorship? > > >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship > through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution > to OBC reflect this ideology? > > >> > > >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets > regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes > around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this > philosophy. > > >> > > >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and > collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, > and any price guides you may use in determining values. > > >> > > >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do > you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from > consideration from OBC) > > >> Yes > > >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? > > >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for > purchase. > > >> > > >> > > >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to > Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself > included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > > >> > > >> Thanks! > > >> Tom Housley > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end > of each posted message. > > > > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & > encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the > RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) > is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > > > > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory > Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page > or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > > > ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:49:32 -0500 To: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: TJ Valacak I know I've made a few eBay purchases from him. Went smoothly. I haven't purchased anything from him in a while though. I did save him in my "sellers". For me, that means he had good starting bids for some vintage. If he has low grade stuff he would like to offer up at a 20% discount, I don't see the harm. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:05 PM, "Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I've had pretty good experiences with him. While I've never bought from him or sold him anything, he has been more than patient in explaining me the way he sells and flips cards and what he looks for. I learned a lot about dealer methods from him that have helped me make better purchases for myself. > I know he acquires a TON of inventory and mainly only deals with high grade (he just got a PSA 10 1960 Mantle AS). So I wouldn't be surprised if he had a bunch of low grade stuff that came along with some collections he buys. > I'd be willing to be a guinea pig too, like Jake says, if that would helpmake an educated decision throughout the group. > On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 2:54 PM, "Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I have noticed Bassik's many aggressive postings on Net54 looking to buy collections, ready to travel with cash in hand. They always remind me of Alan "Mr. Mint" Rosen's pitches in the late 80s that always gave me the creeps. > That said, if what he says in his application is true he might be worth adding to the certified dealer list. He says he does not post his off-grade cards on eBay which may be why few of us know him from the Bay. So perhaps the thing to do is to try to work a deal with him, see how it goes and thenreport back to the group -- much the same as we do with a card collector who wants to join OBC. > I'm be willing to be a guinea pig -- I'll send him my want list and see what deals he comes up with from his low-grade inventory. If a few of us do similarly we ought to get a good feel for his worthiness to OBC. > > > > He can be found with the dealer search investinbaseball. I just got a 1952 Topps Snider PSA graded Authentic for $9 from him recently. I have a number of dealers from eBay I have saved for future reference, but he is not one of them. Doesn't mean he isn't worthy, just means he hasn't been anyone I have bought from regularly. > > > > Doug > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:27 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > > > >> > >> Can we find out his ebay handle? > >> > >> Richard D > >> > >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com > >> From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:11:27 -0400 > >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer > >> > >> > >> Hi all, > >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by amember - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. > >> > >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. > >> > >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > >> > >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are acircle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. > >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend toany OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified > >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory > >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? > >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? > >> > >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. > >> > >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. > >> > >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) > >> Yes > >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? > >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. > >> > >> > >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Tom Housley > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:13:14 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Private Messages from 6/16/15 Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing andwill vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I knowyou purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards thatyou don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thingfor the OBC Membership. We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. Does this sound like something you might utilize? Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! Larry Tipton Sean Bassik: Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't takee-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. Sorry to bother. Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from$.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot+of+9= .TRS0&_nkwlot+of+9&_sacat0 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 14:19:03 -0700 To: Tom Housley , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: David Fallen I have no issues or problems at all with Sean. He seems to enjoy a good reputation on Net54, but . . . I think we need to consider the big picture. Sean's request may well lead to other request from other dealers. Do we need a process to vet these requests? I have no idea what that process would look like. One idea would be to accept such dealers (absent negative member feedback) on a trial basis (call it certification pending, probationary, provisional or whatever). After a few positive interactions with OBC members, the trial designation could be removed. Just a thought. Dave Fallen On 8/19/2015 11:11 AM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Announcements] wrote: > Hi all, > A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for > admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was > a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an > unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is > always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this > method isn't allowed. > However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled > out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations > from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to > everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would > recommend him for Certified status. > The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name > Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the > OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > /(1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and > intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, > we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in > old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading > philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ./ > /*I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have > interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have > an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not > auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily > extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 > member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified dealer.* > / > /(2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? *99%*/ > /(3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years > experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year > members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email > to the advisory committee./ > /*I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's > names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How > would I reach out to him for sponsorship?* > / > /(4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship > through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your > contribution to OBC reflect this ideology?/ > / > / > /(5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets > regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around > comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into > this philosophy./ > / > / > /(6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and > collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading > requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values./ > / > / > /(7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do > you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you > from consideration from OBC)/ > /*Yes* > / > /(8) How did you hear about OBC?/ > /*A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed > for purchase.*/ > So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to > Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself > included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > Thanks! > Tom Housley ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:25:22 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: TJ Valacak Hey gang, A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lotslisted, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure thereenough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe hecould group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealersout there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Private Messages from 6/16/15 > Guru: > Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met youor purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. > Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a showand recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twistfor us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very goodthing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I know you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards that you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. > We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message,and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. > Does this sound like something you might utilize? > Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! > Larry Tipton > Sean Bassik: > Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't take e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cardsin that manor). > I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listingsyou see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) > Guru: > Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. > Sorry to bother. > Sean: > Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. > http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot+of= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:58:56 -0700 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Geordie Calvert I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through thevarious replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, including Net54 I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with him. More when I get home. > On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey gang, > A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe he could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. > Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. > TJ > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net[OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >> Guru: >> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I know you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And onyour application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards that you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. >> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >> Larry Tipton >> Sean Bassik: >> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't take e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain numberoffered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >> Guru: >> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >> Sorry to bother. >> Sean: >> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:02:57 -0700 To: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: wite3 ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:04:36 -0400 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Jimi Thayer Agreed, Geordie, I haven't had time to post today yet but I feel the same way. I was biting my tongue all day... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through the various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, includingNet54 > I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is wellrespected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with > More when I get home. > Geordie >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hey gang, >> A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. Thelots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybehe could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. >> Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. >> TJ >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >>> Guru: >>> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussingand will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairlyactive there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >>> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I know you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards that you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. >>> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual CardStore=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >>> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >>> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >>> Larry Tipton >>> Sean Bassik: >>> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't take e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >>> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >>> Guru: >>> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >>> Sorry to bother. >>> Sean: >>> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake.These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 17:28:09 -0700 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Geordie Calvert Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post was made in April 2015. Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show herein years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine because the first 2 were really fun. And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for the front tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the room (about 30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the nicest guy in theworld, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business activity was when hebuys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and sells a bunch of rarefactory backs to another guy for pennies on the dollar. Then about an hourinto the show he packs up and just leaves, leaving the front tables vacantbecause no widows have sold him their collection. Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school groundsthat is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, and we ban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had one since. A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10 times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. > On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well. Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table from promoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show next to him. Sean is not right for obc. > Joshua > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: "" > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer > I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through the various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, includingNet54 > I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is wellrespected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with > More when I get home. > Geordie >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hey gang, >> A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. Thelots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybehe could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. >> Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. >> TJ >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >>> Guru: >>> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussingand will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairlyactive there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >>> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I know you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards that you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. >>> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual CardStore=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >>> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >>> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >>> Larry Tipton >>> Sean Bassik: >>> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't take e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >>> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >>> Guru: >>> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >>> Sorry to bother. >>> Sean: >>> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake.These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:48:31 -0400 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Doug Doesn't sound like OBC material to me. Doug DeJong Sent from my iPad On Aug 19, 2015, at 8:28 PM, "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post was made in April 2015. > Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show here in years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine because the first 2 were really fun. > And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for the front tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the room (about30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the nicest guy in the world, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business activity was when he buys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and sells a bunch of rare factory backs to another guy for pennies on the dollar. Then about an hour into the show he packs up and just leaves, leaving the front tables vacant because no widows have sold him their collection. > Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school grounds that is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, and weban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had one since. > A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. > Geordie > On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well. Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table from promoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show next to him. Sean is not right for obc. >> Joshua >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: "" >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer >> I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through the various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, including >> I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with >> More when I get home. >> Geordie >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hey gang, >>> A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this iswhat he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe he could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thoughthe might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. >>> Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interestedin offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. >>> TJ >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>>> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >>>> Guru: >>>> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer onour webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >>>> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 Iknow you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cardsthat you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. >>>> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think generaldescriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >>>> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >>>> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >>>> Larry Tipton >>>> Sean Bassik: >>>> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn'ttake e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >>>> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >>>> Guru: >>>> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >>>> Sorry to bother. >>>> Sean: >>>> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with theparameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywherefrom $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:52:42 -0400 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Bob Donaldson On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is > referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post > was made in April 2015. > Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show > here in years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd > do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine > because the first 2 were really fun. > And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for the > front tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife > beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were > being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security > detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in > the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the > room (about 30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the > nicest guy in the world, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business > activity was when he buys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and > sells a bunch of rare factory backs to another guy for pennies on the > dollar. Then about an hour into the show he packs up and just leaves, > leaving the front tables vacant because no widows have sold him their > collection. > Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school > grounds that is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, > and we ban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that > upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had > one since. > A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10 > times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up > trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. > Geordie > On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it > strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well. > Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table from > promoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show > next to him. Sean is not right for obc. > Joshua > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) > To: "" > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer > I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through > the various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a > dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He > does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, > including Net54 > I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well > respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with > him. > More when I get home. > Geordie > On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey gang, > A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card > lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. > The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure > there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this > is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. > Maybe he could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had > thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. > Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more > dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be > interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door > for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. > TJ > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net > [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Private Messages from 6/16/15 > Guru: > Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our > webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and > will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or > purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly > active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. > Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show > and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist > for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good > thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I > know you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And > on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards > that you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very goodthing > the OBC Membership. > We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D > the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve > you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members > responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would > be normal rather than scan the cards. > Does this sound like something you might utilize? > Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! > Larry Tipton > Sean Bassik: > Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't > take e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep > cards in that manor). > I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings > you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number > offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era > specific (50's, 60's or 70's) > Guru: > Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t > understand this. > Sorry to bother. > Sean: > Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. > These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the > parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere > from $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. > http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot+of= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 20:06:00 -0500 To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: OBC Nick P I've been seeing and reading opinions about this all day. Now I think it'stime to chime in. I've bought from investinbaseball on eBay a couple times, I think. I know I see a good number of his items and don't buy for whatever reason-probablyprice. Through the day and all the emails I've been thinking.....meh....ok sure why not. What do we have to lose. Now I see Geordies comments and think about the muscle. Obc isn't the group for somebody who needs muscle....unless he is trying to keep Sal from starting you on green tints. Pissing off a room in 30 minutes is tough, evenfor Through today I've gone from lukewarm accepting to No, this doesn't sound like an OBC dealer. When I think of an Obc dealer I'm thinking Jerry Nelson, Kurt Tourdot, Uncle Dick, or Mike McCann. Sean sounds nothing like the group of OBC dealers. He sounds more like 707or somebody else. We may look at his table but not set it as a destination. There is my two cents. Nick Pelletier Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 7:52 PM, Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Yikes! >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post wasmade in April 2015. >> Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show here in years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine because the first 2 were really fun. >> And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for thefront tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the room (about 30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the nicest guy in the world, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business activity was whenhe buys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and sells a bunch of rare factory backs to another guy for pennies on the dollar. Then about an hour into the show he packs up and just leaves, leaving the front tables vacant because no widows have sold him their collection. >> Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school grounds that is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, and we ban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had one since. >> A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10 times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. >> Geordie >>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >>> I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well.Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table frompromoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show next to him. Sean is not right for obc. >>> Joshua >>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >>> Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) >>> To: "" >>> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer >>> I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read throughthe various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding adissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. Hedoes not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, including >>> I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with >>> More when I get home. >>> Geordie >>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>>> Hey gang, >>>> A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 cardlots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe he could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. >>>> Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. >>>> TJ >>>> Nick Pelletier >>>> Nachobcards@yahoo.com >>>>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>>>> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >>>>> Guru: >>>>> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever metyou or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >>>>> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I know you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. Andon your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards that you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very goodthing for the OBC Membership. >>>>> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >>>>> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >>>>> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >>>>> Larry Tipton >>>>> Sean Bassik: >>>>> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't take e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >>>>> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >>>>> Guru: >>>>> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings yousee=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >>>>> Sorry to bother. >>>>> Sean: >>>>> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlo= ================= To: "'Geordie Calvert'" , Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:20:57 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: "Grant Rainsley" I think this is a no-brainer for the OBCAC=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6see ya. Just can=E2=99t be good medicine. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 5:28 PM To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post was made in April 2015. Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show herein years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine because the first 2 were really fun. And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for the front tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the room (about 30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the nicest guy in theworld, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business activity was when hebuys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and sells a bunch of rarefactory backs to another guy for pennies on the dollar. Then about an hourinto the show he packs up and just leaves, leaving the front tables vacantbecause no widows have sold him their collection. Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school groundsthat is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, and we ban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had one since. A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10 times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well. Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table from promoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show next to him. Sean is not right for obc. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through thevarious replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, including Net54 I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with him. More when I get home. On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Hey gang, A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lotslisted, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure thereenough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this is what he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe hecould group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thought he might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealersout there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interested in offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: Private Messages from 6/16/15 Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer on our webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing andwill vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 I knowyou purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cards thatyou don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thingfor the OBC Membership. We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think general descriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. Does this sound like something you might utilize? Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! Larry Tipton Sean Bassik: Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn't takee-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. Sorry to bother. Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with the parameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywhere from$.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046= ================= Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:38:41 -0700 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Stamper Geordie and all I was at that show. On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post was made in April 2015. > Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show here in years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine because the first 2 were really fun. > And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for the front tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the room (about30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the nicest guy in the world, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business activity was when he buys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and sells a bunch of rare factory backs to another guy for pennies on the dollar. Then about an hour into the show he packs up and just leaves, leaving the front tables vacant because no widows have sold him their collection. > Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school grounds that is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, and weban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had one since. > A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. > Geordie > On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well. Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table from promoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show next to him. Sean is not right for obc. >> Joshua >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: "" >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer >> I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through the various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, including >> I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with >> More when I get home. >> Geordie >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hey gang, >>> A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this iswhat he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe he could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thoughthe might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. >>> Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interestedin offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. >>> TJ >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>>> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >>>> Guru: >>>> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer onour webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >>>> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 Iknow you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cardsthat you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. >>>> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think generaldescriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >>>> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >>>> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >>>> Larry Tipton >>>> Sean Bassik: >>>> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn'ttake e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >>>> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >>>> Guru: >>>> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >>>> Sorry to bother. >>>> Sean: >>>> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with theparameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywherefrom $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot= > Posted by: Geordie Calvert > Reply via web post =E2=A2 Reply to sender =E2=A2=09 ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 05:03:23 -0400 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: Wes Shepard All good answers here. I sort of agree with mac and tj, bassik is a high roller and makes his flips with super high grade. Sometimes those guys are the best for obc condition purchases, because they see those examples tarnishing their inventory, reputation and psyche. So they just rid themselves of the off grade to make space, not money. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Announcements] wrote: > Hi all, > A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. > However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if thisdealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. > The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name InvestIn Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: > (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect theintent of the FAQ. > I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fillsets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified dealer. > (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% > (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory committee. > I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to himfor > (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? > (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. > (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. > (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) > Yes > (8) How did you hear about OBC? > A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. > So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. > Thanks! > Tom Housley ================= Date: 20 Aug 2015 08:34:45 -0700 To: Subject: Waiver Wire From: mp1067@Hotmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:56:18 -0500 To: Wes Shepard Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified Dealer From: TJ Valacak After reading the many posts about this guy, i have doubts about him. His attitude is not an OBC attitude. That doesn't mean he can't be an OBC dealer. From what I gather after reading Gurus thread with him, seems like he wants to offer us these 9 card lots. If that's the case, I don't think he has a lot to offer us. May as well just keep it on eBay for 99 cents a lot instead of 20% off for us. If he puts together larger lots, then there might be something worth pursuing. Seems he's in it for the profit, and I don't have an issue with that. But if he wants to get rid of his off condition, Idon't see his 9 card lots being very attractive. Putting together larger lots would be the way to go. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:03 AM, "Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > All good answers here. I sort of agree with mac and tj, bassik is a high roller and makes his flips with super high grade. Sometimes those guys are the best for obc condition purchases, because they see those examples tarnishing their inventory, reputation and psyche. So they just rid themselves of the off grade to make space, not money. > Wes > Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Announcements] wrote: >> Hi all, >> A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. >> However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out:a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. >> The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site,but here is the copied & pasted version: >> (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. >> I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certifieddealer. >> (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% >> (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisorycommittee. >> I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I seepop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? >> (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBCreflect this ideology? >> (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. >> (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, andany price guides you may use in determining values. >> (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do yousell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) >> Yes >> (8) How did you hear about OBC? >> A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. >> So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included)if you have feedback or recommendations. >> Thanks! >> Tom Housley ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:00:24 -0400 To: tvalacak@comcast.net, wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a From: Tom Housley Thanks for the feedback, T.J.! -----Original Message----- From: TJ Valacak To: Wes Shepard Cc: Tom Housley ; OBC-Ramblings ; obc-announcements Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 11:56 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified After reading the many posts about this guy, i have doubts about him. His attitude is not an OBC attitude. That doesn't mean he can't be an OBC dealer. From what I gather after reading Gurus thread with him, seems like he wants to offer us these 9 card lots. If that's the case, I don't think he has a lot to offer us. May as well just keep it on eBay for 99 cents a lot instead of 20% off for us. If he puts together larger lots, then there might be something worth pursuing. Seems he's in it for the profit, and I don't have an issue with that. But if he wants to get rid of his off condition, Idon't see his 9 card lots being very attractive. Putting together larger lots would be the way to go. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:03 AM, "Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: All good answers here. I sort of agree with mac and tj, bassik is a high roller and makes his flips with super high grade. Sometimes those guys are the best for obc condition purchases, because they see those examples tarnishing their inventory, reputation and psyche. So they just rid themselves of the off grade to make space, not money. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Tom Housley directorth@aol.com [OBC-Announcements] < OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi all, A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommendedby a member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBCmembers. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are a circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help members fill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as acertified (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or moreyears experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to theadvisory I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reachout to him for sponsorship? (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements, and any price guides you may use in determining values. (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude youfrom consideration from OBC) (8) How did you hear about OBC? A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for purchase. So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) ifyou have feedback or recommendations. Tom Housley ================= Date: 20 Aug 2015 11:56:06 -0700 To: Subject: Small multi sport waiver wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:36:02 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Worst? From: jdelott@aol.com I just upgraded the attached, which I purchased new inl 1965. It obviously did not fare well over time. Does anyone have a worse card that they originally purchased pack fresh? ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:27:12 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Worst? [1 Attachment] From: Joel Freedman I am not sure if this qualifies for worst, but there are thirty five variations of the player logo removed from the 1971 topps football series. This has now become the Joel Freedman 1971 Topps Football collection. :) On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:56 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#14f4caf1ab2cfa1a_TopText> from LAWRENCE TIPTON included > below] > From the 9 year old Gurus collection: > Guru ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:40:12 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Worst? [1 Attachment] From: TJ Valacak Classic OBC card!!!! My only question is this.....why is it not graded? Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:56 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > [Attachment(s) from LAWRENCE TIPTON included below] > From the 9 year old Gurus collection: > > Guru ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:56:33 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Worst? From: GERALD TYSVER "Classic OBC card!!!! My only question is this.....why is it not graded?" ...what's left to grade of it Jay Tysver CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: larrytipton@windstream.net From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:40:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Worst? Classic OBC card!!!! My only question is this.....why is it not graded? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:56 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: From the 9 year old Gurus collection: ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:29:23 -0700 To: TJ Valacak , LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Worst? From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:22:23 -0400 To: "jdelott@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Worst? [1 Attachment] From: Wes Shepard Lol, what the hell did you do to it, and why?! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 20, 2015, at 3:36 PM, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from jdelott@aol.com included below] > I just upgraded the attached, which I purchased new inl 1965. It obviously did not fare well over time. Does anyone have a worse card that they originally purchased pack fresh? ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:59:50 -0500 To: "jdelott@aol.com" , Wes Shepard Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Worst? From: I honestly think I have the missing part of that card. I bought a stack of cards from a guy that it had the picture part of 6 Post cards including Aaron, 2 Mays, Mantle, Matthews, and Spahn. Ken P. ---- "Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Lol, what the hell did you do to it, and why?! > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 20, 2015, at 3:36 PM, jdelott@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > [Attachment(s) from jdelott@aol.com included below] > > I just upgraded the attached, which I purchased new inl 1965. It obviously did not fare well over time. Does anyone have a worse card that they originally purchased pack fresh? > > > > ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:09:45 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Worst? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en That one may come in as an 11... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/20/2015 6:22:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Lol, what the hell did you do to it, and why?! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 3:36 PM, _jdelott@aol.com_ (mailto:jdelott@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I just upgraded the attached, which I purchased new inl 1965. It obviously did not fare well over time. Does anyone have a worse card that they originally purchased pack fresh? ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 01:54:07 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 1970 topps- 3 to go From: mark zentkovich almost there...can anyone help knock this out this weekend? 1970 654 Rookies -- Day, Gamble, Mangual --15.001970 659 Pete Ward -- New York Yankees 10.001970 689 Frank Tepedino -- New York Yankees 15.00 any condition of course thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:21:41 -0700 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: Stamper Sorry guys- starting this yesterday and hit send before i was ready. I was at this show. I arrived just after it opened. I saw a security guard car parked near the entrance causing everyone entering to walk around him. I asked him why the show needed a security guard. He said he was working for a dealer who had very expensive cards on display. A little full of himself was my first impression. Inside there were a couple of goons near the front. I was over talking with Mark M. and didn't really see what transpired. Later we heard about how rude the Dealer was to everyone. Anyway, I'm not interested in anything he has to offer. John Stamper On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:28 PM, "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Here is the post from a guy who helps put on the show that Joshua is referring to. I cleaned up the language but otherwise left it intact. Post was made in April 2015. > Some friends and I put on 3 card shows in LA. There hasn't been a show here in years, and we figured as long as we didn't lose too much money we'd do it for fun. Cost the 3 of us about $2k each all told, which was fine because the first 2 were really fun. > And it was fun, until the last one. Sean hounded my partner Adam for the front tables, so we gave it to him. Then on set up day 2 gorillas in wife beaters show up saying they are there for "protection". We thought we were being shaken down, until Sean shows up and says they are his security detail. Matty shows up with his E90-1 Jackson, '52 Mantle, etc to put in the case. Sean manages to completely piss off virtually everyone in the room (about30 guys set up) including Mark Macrae, who is probably the nicest guy in the world, all in the first 45 minutes. His only business activity was when he buys a stack of T205's, has no idea what he has, and sells a bunch of rare factory backs to another guy for pennies on the dollar. Then about an hour into the show he packs up and just leaves, leaving the front tables vacant because no widows have sold him their collection. > Turns out his security detail were armed, and since we're on school grounds that is a felony. The school goes up the wall when they find out, and weban him from ever setting foot in another show of ours. Except that upon further reflection we decide it's just not worth it and haven't had one since. > A final comment for now. He's been thrown off the CU boards as many as 10times, once as himself and then as various alts. He's been known to stir up trouble and then try to play the victim. As Joshua said, he's not for us. > Geordie > On Aug 19, 2015, at 5:02 PM, wite3 Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> I too have dealt with Sean...not a collector type dealer...he is in it strictly for profit and has said so many times. He can be an asset as well. Walked out of a show about 1/2 way through after demanding best table from promoter. Mark M. might have more to say since he was at up at that show next to him. Sean is not right for obc. >> Joshua >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Date: 08/19/2015 4:58 PM (GMT-08:00) >> To: "" >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer >> I'm on the way back from the A's-Dodgers game right now. I read through the various replies and will post more when I get home. I will be adding a dissenting opinion to Sean being included on our Certified Dealer list. He does not have a good reputation on the CU boards and other places, including >> I will paste a post from a message board I manage from a guy that is well respected on CU and elsewhere. I'm pretty sure Joshua is very familiar with >> More when I get home. >> Geordie >> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:25 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >>> Hey gang, >>> A few thoughts. Thanks Guru for posting this. I have seen these 9 card lots listed, and to be honest, don't take too much time looking at them. The lots vary in years , and for me it's more of a pain trying to make sure there enough cards needed in the lot to make it worth my bid. So, if this iswhat he is looking to offer, I'm not as excited about this situation. Maybe he could group some of those lots into 50 or 100 card lots. I had thoughthe might be offering larger, more specific lots to us. Well see. >>> Overall, I really like this concept. I think they're are a few more dealers out there that have some off grade stuff that they might be interestedin offering up to the OBC crew. Any avenues that open the door for some cardboard coming at OBC is a thumbs up. >>> TJ >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 19, 2015, at 3:13 PM, "LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>>> Private Messages from 6/16/15 >>>> Guru: >>>> Hi Sean I=E2=99ve seen your application for OBC Certified Dealer onour webpage. I am a member of the OBC Advisory Committee that is discussing and will vote on your application. I don=E2=99t think I have ever met you or purchased cards from you. But of course see you on Net54, I am fairly active there my screen name is LuckyLarry. >>>> Normal process to become OBC Certified is that the guys see you at a show and recommend for OBC Certified Dealer. So your application is a new twist for us, but something we are looking very hard at. It could be a very good thing for you and for our members! Through your advertising on Net 54 Iknow you purchase large collections, and have a ton of cards on ebay. And on your application you said that you have a bunch of lower condition cardsthat you don=E2=99t want to sell on eBay. So this could be a very good thing for the OBC Membership. >>>> We are in the final stages of getting our new =E2=9COBC Virtual Card Store=E2=9D off the ground. This will be for use by our Certified Dealers. It would involve you listing what you have for sale in an email message, and our members responding back through email.directly. I think generaldescriptions would be normal rather than scan the cards. >>>> Does this sound like something you might utilize? >>>> Hope I get a chance to meet you next month at the National! >>>> Larry Tipton >>>> Sean Bassik: >>>> Larry, I'd need you to be able to sync to my store - I likely couldn'ttake e-mail orders unless it was a product I already had (we don't keep cards in that manor). >>>> I'd likely be able to do the "virtual" card store with my 9 card listings you see at steep discounts for OBC members. I could have a certain number offered to OBC members for say 3 to 5 days before they get listed. Era specific (50's, 60's or 70's) >>>> Guru: >>>> Sean I re-read your message. What is the =E2=9C9 card listings you see=E2=9D I don=E2=99t understand this. >>>> Sorry to bother. >>>> Sean: >>>> Sorry, I had a short conversation with Mark T about these - my mistake. These are my "offgrade" material and items that I sort typically with theparameters 1 HOF + 1 or 2 MINOR STARS + 7 or 8 COMMONS and charge anywherefrom $.40/card-$2/card for nicer 50's material. >>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw&_ssninvestinbaseball&_armrs1&_osacat0&_fromR40&_trksidp2046732.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlot= ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:15:27 -0400 To: directorth@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified D... From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en I see that Sean Bassik has used my name as his introduction to OBC. I actually was given his name by Jimi Thayer, who had some dealings with Sean ling before I did. Not sure if Jimi was yet an OBC member at that time. Sean did come to Chicago a year or so ago to take a look at my collection with an eye towards purchase. We did not end up coming to an agreement. Sean's mention of my name on his application should not be construed as an endorsement by me of his becoming an OBC Certified Dealer. Nor should this email be construed as a recommendation against him. I believe Sean deals mainly in higher grade material. However, he just worked out a deal where he is back in the consignment business as well (after a relatively brief hiatus). If he were going to take my collection, for example, on consignment, there might be quite a bit of material that other OBC'ers would be interested in. Whether his deals are good or bad will probably depend on the deal. I don't think he will interested in getting "beat up", but I also don't think that he will be interested in gouging either. Based on my recent experience at National with some OBC-Certified Dealers that I had never worked with before, I think Sean would be an acceptable dealer in certain situations. I am not sure how some of these dealers qualified based on the deals they were offering at National, but if they did, I suspect Sean would be at least as competitive as they are on pricing. I would suggest that those members who have actually completed transactions with Sean would be the best suited to let us know if he should be granted Certified status. Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 8/20/2015 11:00:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Thanks for the feedback, T.J.! -----Original Message----- From: TJ Valacak To: Wes Shepard Cc: Tom Housley ; OBC-Ramblings ; obc-announcements Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 11:56 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified Dealer After reading the many posts about this guy, i have doubts about him. His attitude is not an OBC attitude. That doesn't mean he can't be an OBC dealer. From what I gather after reading Gurus thread with him, seems likehe wants to offer us these 9 card lots. If that's the case, I don't think he has a lot to offer us. May as well just keep it on eBay for 99 cents a lot instead of 20% off for us. If he puts together larger lots, then there might be something worth pursuing. Seems he's in it for the profit, and I don't have an issue with that. But if he wants to get rid of his off condition, I don't see his 9 card lots being very attractive. Putting together larger lots would be the way to go. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:03 AM, "Wes Shepard _wwesmyster2@aol.com_ (mailto:wwesmyster2@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" < _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: All good answers here. I sort of agree with mac and tj, bassik is a high roller and makes his flips with super high grade. Sometimes those guys are the best for obc condition purchases, because they see those examples tarnishing their inventory, reputation and psyche. So they just rid themselves the off grade to make space, not money. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Tom Housley _directorth@aol.com_ (mailto:directorth@aol.com) [OBC-Announcements] < _OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Hi all, A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help membersfill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements,and any price guides you may use in determining values. (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) (8) How did you hear about OBC? A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. Tom Housley ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:16:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified ... From: smartalecx@aol.com From: Smartalecx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:15:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified D... To: directorth@aol.com Content-Language: en I see that Sean Bassik has used my name as his introduction to OBC. I actually was given his name by Jimi Thayer, who had some dealings with Sean ling before I did. Not sure if Jimi was yet an OBC member at that time. Sean did come to Chicago a year or so ago to take a look at my collection with an eye towards purchase. We did not end up coming to an agreement. Sean's mention of my name on his application should not be construed as an endorsement by me of his becoming an OBC Certified Dealer. Nor should this email be construed as a recommendation against him. I believe Sean deals mainly in higher grade material. However, he just worked out a deal where he is back in the consignment business as well (after a relatively brief hiatus). If he were going to take my collection, for example, on consignment, there might be quite a bit of material that other OBC'ers would be interested in. Whether his deals are good or bad will probably depend on the deal. I don't think he will interested in getting "beat up", but I also don't think that he will be interested in gouging either. Based on my recent experience at National with some OBC-Certified Dealers that I had never worked with before, I think Sean would be an acceptable dealer in certain situations. I am not sure how some of these dealers qualified based on the deals they were offering at National, but if they did, I suspect Sean would be at least as competitive as they are on pricing. I would suggest that those members who have actually completed transactions with Sean would be the best suited to let us know if he should be granted Certified status. Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 8/20/2015 11:00:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Thanks for the feedback, T.J.! -----Original Message----- From: TJ Valacak To: Wes Shepard Cc: Tom Housley ; OBC-Ramblings ; obc-announcements Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 11:56 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] A request to become a Certified Dealer After reading the many posts about this guy, i have doubts about him. His attitude is not an OBC attitude. That doesn't mean he can't be an OBC dealer. From what I gather after reading Gurus thread with him, seems likehe wants to offer us these 9 card lots. If that's the case, I don't think he has a lot to offer us. May as well just keep it on eBay for 99 cents a lot instead of 20% off for us. If he puts together larger lots, then there might be something worth pursuing. Seems he's in it for the profit, and I don't have an issue with that. But if he wants to get rid of his off condition, I don't see his 9 card lots being very attractive. Putting together larger lots would be the way to go. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:03 AM, "Wes Shepard _wwesmyster2@aol.com_ (mailto:wwesmyster2@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" < _OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: All good answers here. I sort of agree with mac and tj, bassik is a high roller and makes his flips with super high grade. Sometimes those guys are the best for obc condition purchases, because they see those examples tarnishing their inventory, reputation and psyche. So they just rid themselves the off grade to make space, not money. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Tom Housley _directorth@aol.com_ (mailto:directorth@aol.com) [OBC-Announcements] < _OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Announcements-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Hi all, A couple of months ago, the OBC-AC discovered an application for admission - but not to become a general member of OBC. Rather, it was a request from a dealer to become an OBC-Certified Dealer. While an unusual way to approach this - as far as I can remember, a dealer is always recommended by member - there is nothing that says this method isn't allowed. However, the rules to become a Certified Dealer are clearly spelled out: a dealer may become OBC Certified if he/she has recommendations from five OBC members. Therefore, I am sending this message to everyone to see if this dealer has five OBC members who would recommend him for Certified status. The dealer's name is Sean Bassik, who sells on eBay under the name Invest In Baseball. His application is still up & can be viewed on the OBC site, but here is the copied & pasted version: (1) The Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) explains the origins and intentions of the OBC. We are much more than an on-line trading group, we are circle of friends drawn together by our common interest in old baseball cards. Please read the FAQ and explain how your trading philosophies reflect the intent of the FAQ. I would like to become a certified dealer with OBC. I have interactions with many members through my e-bay store, but I have an absolutely huge amount of low grade material that I do not auction that I can help membersfill sets with. I will happily extend a 20% discount at any show I attend to any OBC or Net54 member and will do so even if I am not added as a certified (2) What percentage of your hobby interest is in pre-1980 cards? 99% (3) The application process requires one sponsor with 2 or more years experience in OBC, and two additional recommendations from 2 year members. Please list your sponsors' names and have them write an email to the advisory I do not know any sponsors. I have several OBC members who's names I see pop up in e-bay orders. OBCMARK comes to mind. How would I reach out to him for sponsorship? (4) OBC's primary purpose is to promote camaraderie and fellowship through the collecting of old baseball cards. How would your contribution to OBC reflect this ideology? (5) Generally in OBC we send cards to help others complete their sets regardless of condition or the latest price guide. What goes around comes around. Explain how your card swapping habits would fit into this philosophy. (6) Most OBC members are not concerned with grading requirements and collect cards of all conditions. Please explain your grading requirements,and any price guides you may use in determining values. (7) OBC is a group for card collectors. Are you a card dealer, or do you sell cards over the internet? (answering yes does not exclude you from consideration from OBC) (8) How did you hear about OBC? A gentlemen named Gary out of Chicago who's collection I viewed for So...the ball is in your court, members. You may reply directly to Ramblings, or if you wish you may contact any member of the AC (myself included) if you have feedback or recommendations. Tom Housley ================= To: Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:57:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Request To Become An OBC Certified Dealer From: "George Vrechek" Sometimes it would appear that we cover a topic to exhaustion and you might wonder how efficient that is. John Stamper's post is a good example of how well the system can work. Among 130 members or so, it might take a while to get adequate feedback. The direction seemed to be that we give him a try. However, if I'm reading it right, John Stamper's feedback should put the last nail in the coffin on the dealer's request. Thanks for the feedback. George Vrechek ================= Date: 21 Aug 2015 08:41:04 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Worst? From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 21 Aug 2015 09:18:52 -0700 To: Subject: OBC quality football coke caps 1965 - waiver wire From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:45:10 -0400 To: "" Subject: 1958 Topps and 1959 Topps WAIVER WIRE! From: Jimi Thayer Hey folks, I've gone through my dupes box and tried to hit members' lists whom I "owed", so many of you will be getting something from me soon. Also, I've got a nice handful of '58s and '59s that are needing a home. DON'T BE BASHFUL....and please send along your address! 1958 Topps: 60, 166, 259, 263, 301, 302, 309, 319, 456 1959 Topps: 28, 113, 143, 144, 144, 144, 175, 302, 305, 309, 313, 314, 316,320, 328, 341, 342, 348, 362, 367, 367, 371, 371, 372, 412, 412, 451, 451,454, 458, 472, 472, 501 Thanks, guys! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:57:34 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: M101-4 / M101-5 From: Bob Donaldson Thinking of starting this set, realizing I'll never complete it (Joe Jackson, Ruth), but maybe get a decent dent into it, commons, minor stars. So far I've three! Any advice? Anyone have some for trade? Plenty of pre-war to offer in ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 14:57:34 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: 2/3 of a T206 Cobb From: Matthew Glidden Looks like prize OBC material to me... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ty-Cobb-1909-11-T206-Sweet-Caporal-Red-Portrait-2-3-of-card-/252060050152?hash=item3aaff322e8&rmvSB=true ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:09:33 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: High 1960 leaf cheap From: anthony.senthi@gmail.com Great price http://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/1960/Leaf/137/Jack_Meyer/1811042/REVIEWED/COMC/G-VG-EX Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:10:03 -0400 To: mzentko@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 topps- 3 to go From: mikesportsfan@aol.com While they may not equal the set killer I recently received from Sam, this set will be put to bed. I will try and get them out to you in the nextfew Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mark zentkovich mzentko@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings ; Obc Wantlist Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2015 9:54 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 topps- 3 to go almost there...can anyone help knock this out this weekend? 1970 654 Rookies -- Day, Gamble, Mangual --15.00 1970 659 Pete Ward -- New York Yankees 10.00 1970 689 Frank Tepedino -- New York Yankees 15.00 any condition of course thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: 21 Aug 2015 20:04:49 -0700 To: Subject: FOOT gathering From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 21 Aug 2015 20:21:56 -0700 To: Subject: can't read sometimes From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 21 Aug 2015 20:38:31 -0700 To: Subject: FB caps gone From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:30:32 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1960 LEAF 11 CARD BASEBALL LOT VGEX!! (B1-WL54) From: Rick Speaking of high numbers was buying another card and then looked at what other items the seller had and found these think there are seven high numbersin it for $12. View item: 1960 LEAF 11 CARD BASEBALL LOT VGEX!! (B1-WL54) End Time: Aug 19, 2015, 6:36:43 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 01:57:28 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Milton Bradley? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Need some help folks... I was looking thru and decided to check my 68s to see if I had any of the Mets as MB's. Frisella, nope. Ryan, I wish...but the Seaver looks kinda close. I don't have any "official" MBs to compare (if anyone has one that they would like to send over, I'll do what I can to hit your list). I took a pic, but it's hard to tell. The problem with the Seaver is that it's surrounded by other 68 baseball cards and the top edge (with means no white on the boarder). Also, saw this on Ebay and I may make a bid. I'd say for sure it's an MB Ryan. Did SGC not differentiate between MB's and Topps? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Topps-Milton-Bradley-Baseball-Nolan-Ryan-Rookie Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:40:35 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: "Captain Scarlet" From: LAWRENCE TIPTON At this years National, I had a discussion with a fellow OBC member about =E2=9CCaptain Scarlet=E2=9D, and my wantlist for 1967 Anglo Confectionary =E2=9CCaptain Scarlet and the Mysterons=E2=9D cards. I didn=E2=99t grow up watching Captain Scarlet, really never even heard of him, but this certain OBC member did! Only problem is that I can=E2=99t remember who it was? I have a six pack of dupes for you if you would remind me who I spoke to (and if you even want them). ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 08:32:51 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Warehouse find From: Bob Donaldson my daughter saw something on the news about a find of old cards at a warehouse. She did not know many details besides the cards looked old Anyone hear of this? ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:08:36 -0400 To: mark zentkovich Subject: Re: Warehouse find From: Bob Donaldson Thanks Mark On Saturday, August 22, 2015, mark zentkovich wrote: > it was from junk era, fyi, link below: > https://www.facebook.com/mike.mroz.71/posts/10206871230206744?comment_id10206873876272894¬if_tlike > Urban explorers find sports cards worth a MILLION dollars in Detroit > [image: image] > Urban explorers find sports cards worth a MILLION dollar... > Urban explorers in Detroit have stumbled across a a collection of sports > cards thought to be worth more than $1million. The cards from the 1980s and > 90s were left i... > View on www.dailymail.co.uk > Preview by Yahoo > markz > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > > > *To:* OBC Ramblings > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:32 AM > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Warehouse find > my daughter saw something on the news about a find of old cards at a > warehouse. She did not know many details besides the cards looked old > Anyone hear of this? > Bob ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:00:36 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Captain Scarlet" From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LMAO I not only heard of Capt Scarlett, but I have his action figure somewhere's missing an arm I think. Had him with Batman and a couple other costumes. He was more fun than GI Joe! I was a big fan of those marionette shows like that and Fireball XL-5, Stingray, and Supercar. I think I have all the Stingray's on DVD. Who is the "mysterion" person Larry is looking for? That may be a non sport set I should start, so you guys can give me details the set or sets... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/22/2015 7:40:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: At this years National, I had a discussion with a fellow OBC member about =E2=9C Captain Scarlet=E2=9D, and my wantlist for 1967 Anglo Confectionary =E2=9CCaptain Scarlet and the Mysterons=E2=9D cards. I didn=E2=99t grow up watchingCaptain really never even heard of him, but this certain OBC member did! Only problem is that I can=E2=99t remember who it was? I have a six pack of dupes for you if you would remind me who I spoke to (and if you even want them). ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:07:26 -0400 To: "" Subject: Re: 1958 Topps and 1959 Topps WAIVER WIRE! From: Jimi Thayer Sorry guys, but the '58s were sucked up fast! Just a few 59s left at this point. Another waiver wire coming soon! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 21, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Jimi Thayer wrote: > Hey folks, > I've gone through my dupes box and tried to hit members' lists whom I "owed", so many of you will be getting something from me soon. > Also, I've got a nice handful of '58s and '59s that are needing a home. DON'T BE BASHFUL....and please send along your address! > 1958 Topps: 60, 166, 259, 263, 301, 302, 309, 319, 456 > 1959 Topps: 28, 113, 143, 144, 144, 144, 175, 302, 305, 309, 313, 314, 316, 320, 328, 341, 342, 348, 362, 367, 367, 371, 371, 372, 412, 412, 451, 451, 454, 458, 472, 472, 501 > Thanks, guys! > Jimi > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 22 Aug 2015 10:21:28 -0700 To: Subject: Waiver Wire From: bskp1@aol.com ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 14:59:07 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Warehouse find From: Shawn Smart Wow what a cool story! UV or not, what a day it would be to make a find like this! Talk about having fun sorting cards! My friend re-did his baseboard heating last week and pulled a 1973 Topps Paul Casanova from behind a radiator - and I got excited about that lol. I wonder what the result will be - I'm sure these kids wont get to keep much. Whoever owns the building will suddenly appear and pretend they knew they were there the whole time. The millions of dollars things is funny - sure if you add up all the .03 commons then yes the value is probably a million dollars. They will be lucky to sell this stuff for 1/10th that. Cases of 89 Topps wont get you very far. I wonder how these cards stayed mostly dry and free from animals. I am assuming the cards have been sitting there since the junk era boom. I would think rats and mold and such would have ruined most of em. Strange. Thanks for posting this - please keep me posted if follow up stories emerge. To: obcbobd@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 12:55:32 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Warehouse find it was from junk era, fyi, link below: https://www.facebook.com/mike.mroz.71/posts/10206871230206744?comment_id10206873876272894¬if_tlike Urban explorers find sports cards worth a MILLION dollars in Detroit Urban explorers find sports cards worth a MILLION dollar...Urban explorers in Detroit have stumbled across a a collection of sports cards thought to be worth more than $1million. The cards from the 1980s and 90s were left i...View on www.dailymail.co.ukPreview by Yahoo From: "Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:32 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Warehouse find my daughter saw something on the news about a find of old cards at a warehouse. She did not know many details besides the cards looked oldAnyone hear of this?Bob ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 17:02:59 -0400 To: "" Subject: 1959 to 1969 Topps NEW WAIVER WIRE!! From: Jimi Thayer As always, throw your address my way!! 1959 Topps (left over from my other e-mail): #144, 144, 309, 314, 341, 367,367, 372, 412, 412, 412, 454, 458, 472, 472 1961 Topps #5, 9, 9, 9, 11, 11, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 60, 60, 60, 66, 73, 75,75, 75, 75, 75, 75, 75, 76, 76, 81, 82, 82, 82, 82, 82, 82, 90, 90, 98, 101, 101, 101, 101, 105, 105, 140, 212 1965 Topps: #11, 102, 258, 451, 451 1968 Topps: #551 1969 Topps #559 Have at it! Sent from my iPad ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:44:47 -0400 Subject: waiver wire From: Shawn Smart I have claimed so many cards lately, it is only fair that I put up my own waiver wire. Priority will go to those that I am in debt to! 1963 Topps #96 1965 Topps #36 1966 Topps #117 1968 Topps #34, 278 Bob Friend Autographed newspaper article Football - 1974 Topps - #453 1977 Topps #54, 62, 246 1978 Topps #350, 380 1975-76 Topps #98 Capitals Team I'll try and add more this week after I catch up on RAOK's! ================= Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 23:53:27 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Cubs/Phillies game with me, anyone? From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- I'll be in Philly for the Cubs game on Sep 12...anybody want to go? Take Care,Geno ================= To: Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 07:02:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Milton Bradley? From: "George Vrechek" Carlton Miller wrote a detailed article about Milton Bradley cards that was published in SCD a year or so ago. See: http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/featured/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-196 ================= To: George Vrechek , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:29:43 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Milton Bradley? From: Taylor Schock Thanks for posting the article, which finally gave me the impetus to go through my '68 Topps set. This netted me 4 MB cards which included Pizarro, Stoneman, Stottlemyre, and a very nice Gaylord Perry. So I then went to my '67 football and found 3 more MB cards, which included a Mirich, Shaw, and this guy Namath. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 07:02:21 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Milton Bradley? Carlton Miller wrote a detailed article about Milton Bradley cards that waspublished in SCD a year or so ago. See: http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/featured/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-1968-milton-bradley-setGeorge ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:11:06 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Milton Bradley From: LAWRENCE TIPTON I love these threads that give me a chance to thumb through my cards:) It looks like I have two MB cards in my =E2=9968 baseball set #149 Bob Saverine and #112 Woody Fryman. I have several 1967 Topps football cards that have a somewhat different colored back, but it looks like the front of the =E2=9967 football cards must include a strip of the =E2=9968 burlap from the baseball cards on the top or bottom in order to be Milton Bradley. I have none of these cards in my football set. I do have three of the MB =E2=9CHot Rod=E2=9D cards which are easy to identify. The regular Topps 1968 =E2=9CHot Rods=E2=9D have salmon colored backs, and these three MBs have yellow backs. Something to do if you have some time to kill at a card show. Thumb throughthe 1968 baseball and 1967 Football cards:) ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 07:41:40 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1969 Topps baseball team poster - Philadelphia Phillies From: Rick View item: 1969 Topps baseball team poster - Philadelphia Phillies End Time: Sep 21, 2015, 11:57:15 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 07:42:03 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1969 Topps baseball team poster - New York Mets From: Rick View item: 1969 Topps baseball team poster - New York Mets End Time: Sep 21, 2015, 11:56:02 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 07:42:22 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1969 Topps baseball team poster - California Angels From: Rick View item: 1969 Topps baseball team poster - California Angels End Time: Sep 21, 2015, 11:54:42 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= To: LAWRENCE TIPTON , OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:57:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Milton Bradley From: Taylor Schock >>> I have several 1967 Topps football cards that have a somewhat different colored back, but it looks like the front of the =9267 football cards must include a strip of the =9268 burlap from the baseball cards on the top or bottom in order to be Milton Bradley. Not necessarily. My most questionable one from the back was the Namath (I thought it might have been fading related), but he DID have a hint of burlap. The other 2 did not have burlap. If they are on the bottom row, and the top border is shorter than the bottom, you won't see any burlap. Also they are usually badly centered, but not always. As noted (and for others who are looking), they are fairly obvious when they are in a stack of non-MB cards, even for faded ones. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:11:06 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Milton Bradley I love these threads that give me a chance to thumb through my cards:) It looks like I have two MB cards in my =9268 baseball set #149 Bob Saverine and #112 Woody Fryman. I have several 1967 Topps football cards that have a somewhat different colored back, but it looks like the front of the =9267 football cards must include a strip of the =9268 burlap from the baseball cards on the top or bottom in order to be Milton Bradley. I have none of these cards in my football set. I do have three of the MB =93Hot Rod=94 cards which are easy to identify. The regular Topps 1968 =93Hot Rods=94 have salmon colored backs, and these three MBs have yellow backs. Something to do if you have some time to kill at a card show. Thumb throughthe 1968 baseball and 1967 Football cards:) ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:16:58 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Milton Bradley? From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I have had this article bookmarked and that's the picture I referenced when looking for what card was where on the sheet. Carlton is a wealth of MB info. I think I saw his stuff on the Net54 boards also. Now the question is: The guy game back with an offer of $220 for the Ryan. "3s" I have seen sell for about $200 or slightly less, 3.5 low-mid $200s. Do I jump on his offer? I shot back $200 and he turned it down. I don't want to overpay for a card that I may be able to get a slightly better grade of for the price. _http://www.ebay.com/itm/301718691687?_trksidp2060353.m2763.l2649&ssPageNam (http://www.ebay.com/itm/301718691687?_trksidp2060353.m2763.l2649&ssPageNameSTRK:MEBIDX:IT) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/23/2015 8:02:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Carlton Miller wrote a detailed article about Milton Bradley cards that was published in SCD a year or so ago. See: http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/featured/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-1968-milton-bradley-set ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:36:28 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Linnett Reds card set From: ChicoD1@aol.com The guy with the posters also has these for you Reds fans: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Linnett-Cincinnati-Reds-complete-baseball-card- Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:47:59 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Topps baseball team poster - New York Mets From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en BTW, this one is no longer available :-).. Thanks Rick! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/23/2015 10:42:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: View item: _1969 Topps baseball team poster - New York Mets_ (http://pages.ebay.com/link/?navitem.view&altweb&id301720443057&globalIDEBAY-US) End Time: Sep 21, 2015, 11:56:02 AM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:31:18 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Brooklyn Dodger Earl Mossor's only vintage card... From: Matthew Glidden ...is 1951 Bowman #239, Charlie Dressen. While making a food pun about Charlie "Salad" Dressen's last name, I noticed Bowman chose a photo with the day's lineup on a chalkboard behind the Brooklyn manager. http://caimages.collectors.com/psacertimages/19095_1597x948.jpg Below (Don) "Newcombe" is (Earl) "Mossor," a cup-of-coffee reliever who lasted two weeks in the bigs, largely for failing to get balls over the plate to big-league hitters. (His long career in the minors didn't show quite the same issue.) Since Earl was a Dodger just briefly, first in Spring Training and then for two weeks in late April / early May, Bowman must've used a photo from that window for Dressen's high # card. It's also Earl only vintage appearance, if by proxy. It wouldn't be until the retro set era that his photo made it to cards, more info in this post: https://coachreese.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/a-cup-of-coffee/ Team chalkboards don't make it onto cards that often -- anyone else remember one? ================= To: obc ramblings Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:49:59 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Brooklyn Dodger Earl Mossor's only vintage From: richard dingman Nice story. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:31:18 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Brooklyn Dodger Earl Mossor's only vintage card... ...is 1951 Bowman #239, Charlie Dressen. While making a food pun about Charlie "Salad" Dressen's last name, I noticed Bowman chose a photo with the day's lineup on a chalkboard behind the Brooklyn http://caimages.collectors.com/psacertimages/19095_1597x948.jpg Below (Don) "Newcombe" is (Earl) "Mossor," a cup-of-coffee reliever who lasted two weeks in the bigs, largely for failing to get balls over the plate to big-league hitters. (His long career in the minors didn't show quite thesame Since Earl was a Dodger just briefly, first in Spring Training and then fortwo weeks in late April / early May, Bowman must've used a photo from thatwindow for Dressen's high # card. It's also Earl only vintage appearance, if by proxy. It wouldn't be until the retro set era that his photo made it to cards, more info in this post: https://coachreese.wordpress.com/2013/07/23/a-cup-of-coffee/ Team chalkboards don't make it onto cards that often -- anyone else remember ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:10:30 -0400 Subject: id this ken boyer From: "Matt Yudt" Does anyone know what this came from? The back is blank and it doesn't look cut out, but I got it from my dealer friend Joce and his Hostess cards don't look cut out either. its 2"X4" ================= To: , Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:11:45 -0400 Subject: RE: id this ken boyer From: "Matt Yudt" Ps - it's probably from 1962 based on the write-up, but my SCD doesn't seem to list it From: Matt Yudt [mailto:yudts5@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:11 AM To: 'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com' Subject: id this ken boyer Does anyone know what this came from? The back is blank and it doesn't look cut out, but I got it from my dealer friend Joce and his Hostess cards don't look cut out either. its 2"X4" ================= To: "'Grant Rainsley'" , Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:22:12 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: id this ken boyer From: "Matt Yudt" Grant - it is thick cardboard - but upon closer inspection, is indeed a cut out of magazine or something and is glued onto the cardboard. Looks like it was carefully cut once on the cardboard. From: Grant Rainsley [mailto:grains@shaw.ca] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:18 AM To: yudts5@verizon.net Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: id this ken boyer Is that cardboard or more like newsprint? It reminds me of things out of Baseball Digest, which I think was a monthly publication back then... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Matt Yudt' yudts5@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:12 AM To: yudts5@verizon.net; 'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: id this ken boyer Ps - it's probably from 1962 based on the write-up, but my SCD doesn't seem to list it From: Matt Yudt [mailto:yudts5@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:11 AM To: 'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com' Subject: id this ken boyer Does anyone know what this came from? The back is blank and it doesn't look cut out, but I got it from my dealer friend Joce and his Hostess cards don't look cut out either. its 2"X4" ================= Date: 24 Aug 2015 08:52:40 -0700 To: Subject: Baseball card wrappers From: bdangelo@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:32:54 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waivers-Dupes Box Cleanout From: LAWRENCE TIPTON First the =E2=9CMysterion Man=E2=9D I was searching for appears to beSal himself:) So the starter set is heading your way Sal. 66 cards in the set. I just bought a pile of cards from a seller in the UK for the opening bid of 99L which turns out to be around $1.55 each. Gurus Dupes Box Cleanout. Don=E2=99t be shy if you want something here. I want to get these out of here! Also looking for someone to take ALL that are left after the claims! 1934 Goudey #43 (poor cond) 1959 Topps: #523 1961 Topps stamps: Carey, Taylor 1962 Topps stamps: Sibern 1963 Post: #s 91 74 1964 Topps Coin #139 Whitey Ford 1965 Topps #s 585 598 1966 Topps #s 21 33 68 78 1967 Topps #103 Mantle checklist (I can=E2=99t get rid of this darn card!) 1970 Topps Story Booklets #s 3 12 1971 Topps =E2=9CScratch-Off=E2=9D (red center) Rich Allen 1976 Hostess #39 10 card lot =E2=9962 =E2=9966 =E2=9967 Topps commons 1964 Phil #123 1966 Phil #s 17 95 1969 Topps #22 1971 Topps Game Card #19 1970 Topps #105 1971-72 Topps Hockey Story Booklet #20 1941 Gum Inc =E2=9CWar=E2=9D #53 trimmed corners 1951 Bowman =E2=9CJets Rockets Spacemen=E2=9D #8 1952 Topps =E2=9CLook N See=E2=9D #135 Dolly Madison 1954 Topps =E2=9CScoops=E2=9D #s 28 48 56 1956 Gum Inc =E2=9CAdventure=E2=9D #21 1957 Topps =E2=9CIsolation Booth=E2=9D #29 1958 Topps =E2=9CZorro=E2=9D #12 1965 Donruss =E2=9CFreddie and the Dreamers=E2=9D 3 card starter set 1968 Topps =E2=9CLaugh-In=E2=9D #15 1971 Fleer AHRA =E2=9CDrag Champs=E2=9D 8 card starter set 1972 Donruss =E2=9CVote=E2=9D stickers starter set of 4 diff 1974 Fleer George Barris =E2=9CKustom Cars=E2=9D stickers series 1 starter set of 9 diff 1977 Topps =E2=9CCharlies Angels=E2=9D sticker # 29 1975 Donruss =E2=9CTruckin=E2=9D #12 1978 Topps =E2=9CGrease=E2=9D (pink cards) #s 9 12 ================= Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:23:16 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Glued 49 Bowmans From: If anyone wants to take a shot at these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-98-1949-Bowman-Baseball-Cards-In-Bad-Condition-/121734556074? have at it. It has already gone above my budget. Has a Paige and Ashburn among them, as well as a few other big names. There is that little matter about being glued into the book--no good way of knowing how much glue was used. ================= Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:51:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1968-69 tops basketball 2 HOFers on the wire From: Robert Fitts I have 15 Hawkins and 74 Stallworth, both with dart holes in them for anybody who claims them ================= Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:08:56 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waivers-Dupes Box Cleanout From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Hahaa Larry, that move was as slick as when Ken goes "here" and I all of a sudden have some Red Man's in my hand! Thanks in advance, I'll have to see if I can find the Capt and send a pic! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/24/2015 2:33:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: First the =E2=9CMysterion Man=E2=9D I was searching for appears to be Sal himself:) So the starter set is heading your way Sal. 66 cards in the set. I just bought a pile of cards from a seller in the UK for the opening bid of 99L which turns out to be around $1.55 each. Gurus Dupes Box Cleanout. Don=E2=99t be shy if you want something here.I to get these out of here! Also looking for someone to take ALL that are left after the claims! 1934 Goudey #43 (poor cond) 1959 Topps: #523 1961 Topps stamps: Carey, Taylor 1962 Topps stamps: Sibern 1963 Post: #s 91 74 1964 Topps Coin #139 Whitey Ford 1965 Topps #s 585 598 1966 Topps #s 21 33 68 78 1967 Topps #103 Mantle checklist (I can=E2=99t get rid of this darn card!) 1970 Topps Story Booklets #s 3 12 1971 Topps =E2=9CScratch-Off=E2=9D (red center) Rich Allen 1976 Hostess #39 10 card lot =E2=9962 =E2=9966 =E2=9967 Topps commons 1964 Phil #123 1966 Phil #s 17 95 1969 Topps #22 1971 Topps Game Card #19 1970 Topps #105 1971-72 Topps Hockey Story Booklet #20 1941 Gum Inc =E2=9CWar=E2=9D #53 trimmed corners 1951 Bowman =E2=9CJets Rockets Spacemen=E2=9D #8 1952 Topps =E2=9CLook N See=E2=9D #135 Dolly Madison 1954 Topps =E2=9CScoops=E2=9D #s 28 48 56 1956 Gum Inc =E2=9CAdventure=E2=9D #21 1957 Topps =E2=9CIsolation Booth=E2=9D #29 1958 Topps =E2=9CZorro=E2=9D #12 1965 Donruss =E2=9CFreddie and the Dreamers=E2=9D 3 card starter set 1968 Topps =E2=9CLaugh-In=E2=9D #15 1971 Fleer AHRA =E2=9CDrag Champs=E2=9D 8 card starter set 1972 Donruss =E2=9CVote=E2=9D stickers starter set of 4 diff 1974 Fleer George Barris =E2=9CKustom Cars=E2=9D stickers series 1 starter set of 9 1977 Topps =E2=9CCharlies Angels=E2=9D sticker # 29 1975 Donruss =E2=9CTruckin=E2=9D #12 1978 Topps =E2=9CGrease=E2=9D (pink cards) #s 9 12 ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:04:04 -0400 Subject: Guru - Waivers-Dupes Box Cleanout From: richard dingman I'd be interested in the Scoops and =93Jets Rockets Spacemen=94 #8. Richard Dingman PO Box 912 Montague MA 01351 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:08:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Waivers-Dupes Box Cleanout Hahaa Larry, that move was as slick as when Ken goes "here" and I all of a sudden have some Red Man's in my hand! Thanks in advance, I'll have to see if can find the Capt and send a pic! OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/24/2015 2:33:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: the =93Mysterion Man=94 I was searching for appears to be Sal himself:) So starter set is heading your way Sal. 66 cards in the set. I just bought apile of cards from a seller in the UK for the opening bid of 99L which turns out be around $1.55 each. Dupes Box Cleanout. Don=92t be shy if you want something here. I want to get these out of here! looking for someone to take ALL that are left after the claims! Goudey #43 (poor cond) Topps: #523 Topps stamps: Carey, Taylor Topps stamps: Sibern Post: #s 91 74 Topps Coin #139 Whitey Ford Topps #s 585 598 Topps #s 21 33 68 78 Topps #103 Mantle checklist (I can=92t get rid of this darn card!) Topps Story Booklets #s 3 12 Topps =93Scratch-Off=94 (red center) Rich Allen Hostess #39 card lot =9262 =9266 =9267 Topps commons Phil #123 Phil #s 17 95 Topps #22 Topps Game Card #19 Topps #105 Topps Hockey Story Booklet #20 Gum Inc =93War=94 #53 trimmed corners Bowman =93Jets Rockets Spacemen=94 #8 Topps =93Look N See=94 #135 Dolly Madison Topps =93Scoops=94 #s 28 48 56 Gum Inc =93Adventure=94 #21 Topps =93Isolation Booth=94 #29 Topps =93Zorro=94 #12 Donruss =93Freddie and the Dreamers=94 3 card starter set Topps =93Laugh-In=94 #15 Fleer AHRA =93Drag Champs=94 8 card starter set Donruss =93Vote=94 stickers starter set of 4 diff Fleer George Barris =93Kustom Cars=94 stickers series 1 starter set of 9 Topps =93Charlies Angels=94 sticker # 29 Donruss =93Truckin=94 #12 Topps =93Grease=94 (pink cards) #s 9 12 ================= Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 05:59:21 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: eBay OBC grade 53 Bowman #44 Berra/Bauer/Mantle From: Matthew Glidden ...and don't forget the catching gear! $42 opening, $55 BIN. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1953-BOWMAN-COLOR-MICKEY-MANTLE-44-800-00-FAIR-SCC5321-/121740400120?hash=item1c584b15f8 ================= Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 06:24:06 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1954 RED HEART LOT OF 7**RARE**NICE LOT** From: Rick View item: 1954 RED HEART LOT OF 7**RARE**NICE LOT** End Time: Sep 23, 2015, 7:41:53 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 18:43:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Waiver wire From: Jerry Coker In an effort to try to keep up with all the incomings... below is an outgoing waiver wire. NOTE: Most of these are Tipton Mint with a fewnot being toobad :-) Priority goes to those I owe, but don=E2=99tbe shy! Please include your mailing address. Thanks! Jerry. 54T 26 49 78 120 59T 64 322 334 342 376 418 422 60T 192 61T 61 105 70T 8 13 18 42 122 165 244 277 316 327 345 366 367 451 72T 9 11 21 39 60 75 76 77 81 84 86 91 97 103 104 111 119123 124 125 128 129 131 140 143 147 155 161 165 185 194 197 216 231 248 251 262288 353 615 73T 155 173 182 214 216 242 263 74T 4 165 213 264 302 368 370 384 571 651 75T 12 39 57 64 72 76 85 94 101 105 114 219 238 253 296 331344 356 358 361 382 398 400 410 416 421 456 465 492 493 495 502 504 552 556 603632 634 642 647 649 658 659 76T 30 77T 41 123 270 392 571 573 575 607 78T 33 228 249 252 329 346 370 430 553 621 79T 146 245 80T 17 42 112 169 187 197 198 303 347 352 378 386 395 416433 440 459 493 498 562 586 593 594 596 723 Jerry Coker ================= Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:39:07 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: o/~ Holding out for a hero... aka HELP! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Looking to put a pair of sets to bed, hoping these cards are around OBC. I have a few 71s to trade out: 1970 Topps Scratch Offs - 2 Sets - Scratched/Unscratched (White inside) 1- Aaron - scratched 1971 Topps Scratch Offs - 2 Sets - Scratched/Unscratched (Red inside) Needs 1- Aaron - UNscratched 21- Stargell - scratched Also, anyone out here do basketball and have a Fleer Ewing rookie #32 they want to trade? These have been on my lists WAY too long... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 23:12:33 -0400 To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Fwd: GOT AWAY: Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball Cards - In Bad Condition From: Wes Shepard Holy crap, this auction was silly stupid!!! Those glued cards went for almost Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: eBay > Date: August 25, 2015 at 10:01:00 PM EDT > To: wwesmyster2@aol.com > Subject: GOT AWAY: Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball Cards - In Bad Condition > Sold for $851.00. $539.87 over your max bid. There are plenty of similar items up for grabs! > Hey wwesmyster2cards - Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball Cards - In Bad Condition just sold for $851.00. > View similar items > More chances to get what you want > 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL LOT OF 4... > $1.25 > Large lot of baseball rookie and prospect... > $10.00 > BASEBALL CARDS LOT OF 9 IN FAIR... > $0.99 > 1949 Bowman Baseball Lot Of 6-... > $35.00 > LOT OF 17 ROGER CLEMENS BASEBALL... > $12.99 > Free Shipping > Huge Lot of Vintage Baseball Cards (1,5... > $495.00 > Buy it now > Free Shipping > Large Lot of 6,160 Topps 1970-1979... > $2,231.25 > Buy it now > 1997 BOWMAN SERIES 2 BASEBALL LOT OF... > $7.99 > Buy it now > 7 CARD LOT OF UPPER DECK CAL RIPKEN... > $3.99 > Buy it now > 1976 Topps Baseball Lot of over 150... > $19.99 > Buy it now > Huge Lot of MLB Baseball Cards Top... > $9.98 > Buy it now > MLB ORIGNAL 1970 Topps lot of 21 ... > $26.99 > Buy it now > Popular now on eBay > 2005 UD Derek Jeter Cal Ripken Nomar... > $108.50 > 2007 UD Black Derek Jeter Cal Ripken Aut... > $152.50 > 1954 TOPPS BASEBALL #94 ERNIE BANKS... > $34.00 > 1955 TOPPS ROBERTO CLEMENTE ROOKIE... > $338.33 > Download the app > Set auction ending reminders - So you are always in the know, and never out of luck. > Update your email preferences > You are receiving this email based on your eBay account preferences. To change which emails you receive from eBay, go to Notification Preferences inMy > Email reference id: [#ecac1e5b49264c919520911b2889d532#] > We don't check this mailbox, so please don't reply to this message. If you have a question, go to Help & Contact. > eBay sent this message to wes shepard (wwesmyster2cards). Learn more about account protection. eBay is committed to your privacy. Learn more about our privacy notice and user agreement. > =A92015 eBay Inc., 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125 ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:24:59 -0400 Subject: 75 mini's available From: "Matt Yudt" Hi all Only had a few responders last Friday to the 25 cents /mini deal. Still several hundred left - no start or key cards but many many commons. Happy to look through lists or send a starter set if interested. I'm going to give the box back at some point with whatever is left, so no worries if they don't sell. I'm sure the owner would take $20 / hundred if I asked him.. They're pretty sharp overall, so be careful. ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:26:03 -0400 Subject: RE: 75 mini's available From: "Matt Yudt" Oops - wrong server - darn it. Don't usually write to the dealer scum group... Apologies From: Matt Yudt [mailto:yudts5@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 9:25 AM To: 'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com' Subject: 75 mini's available Hi all Only had a few responders last Friday to the 25 cents /mini deal. Still several hundred left - no start or key cards but many many commons. Happy to look through lists or send a starter set if interested. I'm going to give the box back at some point with whatever is left, so no worries if they don't sell. I'm sure the owner would take $20 / hundred if I asked him.. They're pretty sharp overall, so be careful. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:59:39 -0400 To: wwesmyster2@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: GOT AWAY: Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball From: ricktopps@aol.com It was a high risk auction, but very interesting. It was loaded with high numbers and major stars in nice condition (except for the backs). If the cards came off easily it was a great deal, but it could be a disaster. I was going to go $550, but dropped my bid to $470 an hour before the auction. I was surprised it went as high as it did, but the Paige was beautiful on the Rick Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Wes Shepard wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings (OBC) Sent: Tue, Aug 25, 2015 10:12 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: GOT AWAY: Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball Cards - In Bad Condition Holy crap, this auction was silly stupid!!! Those glued cards went for almost Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: eBay < ebay@ebay.com> Date: August 25, 2015 at 10:01:00 PM EDT To: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: GOT AWAY: Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball Cards - In Bad Sold for $851.00. $539.87 over your max bid. There are plenty of similar items up for grabs! Hey wwesmyster2cards - Lot of 98 1949 Bowman Baseball Cards - In Bad Condition just sold for $851.00. View similar items More chances to get what you want 1949 BOWMAN BASEBALL LOT OF 4... Large lot of baseball rookie and prospect... BASEBALL CARDS LOT OF 9 IN FAIR... 1949 Bowman Baseball Lot Of 6-... LOT OF 17 ROGER CLEMENS BASEBALL... Free Shipping Huge Lot of Vintage Baseball Cards (1,5... Buy it now Free Shipping Large Lot of 6,160 Topps 1970-1979... Buy it now 1997 BOWMAN SERIES 2 BASEBALL LOT OF... Buy it now 7 CARD LOT OF UPPER DECK CAL RIPKEN... Buy it now 1976 Topps Baseball Lot of over 150... Buy it now Huge Lot of MLB Baseball Cards Top... Buy it now MLB ORIGNAL 1970 Topps lot of 21 ... Buy it now Popular now on eBay 2005 UD Derek Jeter Cal Ripken Nomar... 2007 UD Black Derek Jeter Cal Ripken Aut... 1954 TOPPS BASEBALL #94 ERNIE BANKS... 1955 TOPPS ROBERTO CLEMENTE ROOKIE... Download the app Set auction ending reminders - So you are always in the know, and never outof Update your email preferences You are receiving this email based on your eBay account preferences. To change which emails you receive from eBay, go to Notification Preferences in My Email reference id: [#ecac1e5b49264c919520911b2889d532#] We don't check this mailbox, so please don't reply to this message. If youhave a question, go to Help & Contact. eBay sent this message to wes shepard (wwesmyster2cards). Learn more aboutaccount protection. eBay is committed to your privacy. Learn more about our privacy notice and user agreement. =A92015 eBay Inc., 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125 ================= Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 18:25:51 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: re: Glued 49 Bowmans From: LAWRENCE TIPTON Those pages (that the cards were glued onto) sure looked more modern than something from the late 40s early 50s? ================= Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:04:21 -0400 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Glued 49 Bowmans From: Rob Bessette I agree. Look at the holes in the pages (for the binder). They look very clean and smooth and I feel like that shape they're cut in is more modern than > On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:25 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Those pages (that the cards were glued onto) sure looked more modern thansomething from the late 40s early 50s? > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:22:55 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Glued 49 Bowmans From: Taylor Schock It is probably easy to assume the pages were from the early '60s since the seller also had some '61 FB cards glued to the same pages. While it IS possible that they had those pages for years and just used them for the FB cards in '61, it is highly unlikely. So that probably means they were glued at the same time as the '61 FB cards as well, which means good luck with any kind of card removal without professional help. 10% of BV seems a bit high for (technically speaking) poor condition cards (IMO), though the fronts AREnice. CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: larrytipton@windstream.net From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:04:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Glued 49 Bowmans I agree. Look at the holes in the pages (for the binder). They look very clean and smooth and I feel like that shape they're cut in is more modern than On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:25 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Those pages (that the cards were glued onto) sure looked more modern than something from the late 40s early 50s? ================= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:36:19 -0500 To: LAWRENCE TIPTON Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: Glued 49 Bowmans From: john harrell The final bid was way more than I would have paid, considering none of those cards would have graded better than a 2. Still that was almost half the set. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:25 PM, LAWRENCE TIPTON larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Those pages (that the cards were glued onto) sure looked more modern than > something from the late 40s early 50s? > Guru ================= Date: 27 Aug 2015 09:13:42 -0700 To: Subject: The WDBJ shootings From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:23:28 -0400 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] o/~ Holding out for a hero... aka HELP! From: Jimi Thayer Hey Sal, I have a '71 Stargell - scratched that you can have....no worries on returnfire. Still need it? Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:39 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Looking to put a pair of sets to bed, hoping these cards are around OBC. I have a few 71s to trade out: > 1970 Topps Scratch Offs - 2 Sets - Scratched/Unscratched (White inside) Needs > 1- Aaron - scratched > 1971 Topps Scratch Offs - 2 Sets - Scratched/Unscratched (Red inside) Needs > 1- Aaron - UNscratched > 21- Stargell - scratched > Also, anyone out here do basketball and have a Fleer Ewing rookie #32 they want to trade? These have been on my lists WAY too long... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:51:33 -0500 To: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings From: OBC Nick P Great note Tom. Spot on! I have first hand experience of what Tom is talking about. I spent a few years working in news and there are some awkward situations that present themselves. A reporter is in often unfamiliar situations with simple they don't know and odd things can happen. Sometimes----almost always they are innocent. Sometimes they make a news story even better. Sometimes it's justcrazy people. And sadly on occasion something like WDBJ-Roanoke occur. Sometimes they make a great story to tell in the office as is the case for my strangest encounter. The world does need a taste of OBC. This garbage needs to stop. Nick Pelletier > On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:43 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > That was a very nice note, Tom. > The world has changed significantly where we once took personal safety for granted. Seems the news is full of situations like this. Innocent people caught up in bad situations and bad people engaging in their own dramas. > It's extremely troubling. > We feel powerless to stop the direction that this has spun. > I'm speechless as well while grieving for the victims. > I wish the world worked more like OBC and not like...well, the world. > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: August 27, 2015 at 9:13 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings > Hi guys, > This, as the title indicates, is a non-baseball Ramble. But the senselesskillings of two young journalists from WDBJ in Roanoke has affected me very > As many of you may know, I spent a long time in my career working in local TV news. I started my TV career running Master Control at one station in Dayton, then moved to the then-NBC affiliate. After a few months as a jack-of-all-trades operations engineer, I started directing news. I was safe in the control room duringshows, but on occasional days I was the Live Truck driver (at the time the station didn't let the photojournalists drive the Live Truck). This was the only time when I was in the field with the reporter& photog, and thankfully during that time, no overly-crazy people approached or threatened us. > Once I moved to the CBS affiliate, I was a full-time director, safe in the control room for every newscast. But I was around the news staff in the newsroom all the time, and of course, crazy people being crazy people, some of our reporters even had to get restraining orders against people. Thankfully nothing violent ever happened. Our parking lot was wide-open & a few times some sketchy people approached one of us - me included - but no one ever became violent. > Every time we went live, it was always in the back of my mind that something could, in theory, happen to the reporter or photog - and what could anyof us do? They were extremely vulnerable out there - especially in bad neighborhoods or on crime stories, but as yesterday's s tragedy shows, even innocent fluff stories are a magnet for idiots. > I never knew Alison Parker or Adam Ward, the two victims of yesterday's shooting, Until yesterday, I probably could not have picked out Roanoke on amap. And I'm no longer working at a TV station. But anyone who works or has worked in that business is part of an extended family, and I am grieving for the WDBJ employees, and the families of the victims, for the loss of their son/daughter/fiance/friend. The, pardon me, asshole who did this clearly had a lot of mental problems; he was a problem employee for many other stations as well, yet he kept getting hired, and no one raised any red flags.How that is so baffles me. There was absolutely no need for him to rob twoyoung people of their lives. > Thanks for allowing me to Ramble on this. Putting the words down in printis a little cathartic. > I wish the family, friends and co-workers of Alison and Adam peace and healing. > Tom ================= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:00:16 -0500 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings From: Patrick Wattigny ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:15:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings From: Taylor Schock Tom, et al... It truly does hit home when it happens in your profession, and especially in one that isn't thought of as a "high risk" in most instances. Father Pat, I truly hope I am misunderstanding this and the intent isn't to imply that better mental health care would address acts of evil, of which this clearlywas one, nor prevented this one in particular. It's obvious from Vester/Bryce's tweets that he knew what he was doing. Though I do totally agree that "What we are doing is not working." But whatI see us doing is trying to collectivize everything while avoiding personal responsibility. Everyone's failings and everyone's successes are blamed on, or credited to, "society". It's not my fault because I was product of myenvironment. He succeeded because he was lucky to have been born where he was. There is no room left for individual responsibility, as if that were an 'evil' thing of itself. PS - There are a LOT of things that we are doing, and have been doing for years that aren't working, yet we still do them. And many clamor for doing (more of) the same thinking the outcome will change. But that's a whole other topic, and one which I'm trying hard to avoid here. To: nachobcards@yahoo.com CC: directorth@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:00:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings Tom first, and all, My condolences to you, Tom, at this senseless act of EVIL. It was violence, yes, but first and foremost, it was evil. Please be assured of my prayers. Since this is a ramble, I will make it a ramble. We have got to do differently what we are doing as a society, to care for people with mental problems. What we are doing is not working. This openseason on police officers, innocent news reporters, theater patrons, and the general public tell me that what we are doing to care for the mentally ill is falling woefully short of necessary. No politician will say that, of course, I realize that, because it makes too much sense. But maybe we can all consider that when trying to vote for the lesser of evils in our candidates who are running for offices. Pray for our country, whatever your religion, or lack of religion. We need it! Father Pat Wattigny Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:52 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Great note Tom. Spot on! I have first hand experience of what Tom is talking about. I spent a few years working in news and there are some awkward situations that present themselves. A reporter is in often unfamiliar situations with simple they don't know and odd things can happen. Sometimes----almost always they are innocent. Sometimes they make a news story even better. Sometimes it's justcrazy people. And sadly on occasion something like WDBJ-Roanoke occur. Sometimes they make a great story to tell in the office as is the case for my strangest encounter. The world does need a taste of OBC. This garbage needs to stop. Nick PelletierNachobcards@yahoo.com On Aug 27, 2015, at 12:43 PM, familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] That was a very nice note, Tom. The world has changed significantly where we once took personal safety for granted. Seems the news is full of situations like this. Innocent people caught up in bad situations and bad people engaging in their own dramas. It's extremely troubling. We feel powerless to stop the direction that this has spun. I'm speechless as well while grieving for the victims. I wish the world worked more like OBC and not like...well, the world. OBC Forever, Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: August 27, 2015 at 9:13 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings Hi guys, This, as the title indicates, is a non-baseball Ramble. But the senseless killings of two young journalists from WDBJ in Roanoke has affected me very deeply. As many of you may know, I spent a long time in my career working in local TV news. I started my TV career running Master Control at one station in Dayton, then moved to the then-NBC affiliate. After a few months as a jack-of-all-trades operations engineer, I started directing news. I was safe in the control room duringshows, but on occasional days I was the Live Truck driver (at the time the station didn't let the photojournalists drive the LiveTruck). This was the only time when I was in the field with the reporter &photog, and thankfully during that time, no overly-crazy people approachedor threatened us. Once I moved to the CBS affiliate, I was a full-time director, safe in the control room for every newscast. But I was around the news staff in the newsroom all the time, and of course, crazy people being crazy people, some ofour reporters even had to get restraining orders against people. Thankfully nothing violent ever happened. Our parking lot was wide-open & a few times some sketchy people approached one of us - me included - but no one ever became Every time we went live, it was always in the back of my mind that something could, in theory, happen to the reporter or photog - and what could any of us do? They were extremely vulnerable out there - especially in bad neighborhoods or on crime stories, but as yesterday's s tragedy shows, even innocent fluff stories are a magnet for idiots. I never knew Alison Parker or Adam Ward, the two victims of yesterday's shooting, Until yesterday, I probably could not have picked out Roanoke on a map. And I'm no longer working at a TV station. But anyone who works or has worked in that business is part of an extended family, and I am grieving for the WDBJ employees, and the families of the victims, for the loss of their son/daughter/fiance/friend. The, pardon me, asshole who did this clearly had a lot of mental problems; he was a problem employee for many other stations as well, yet he kept getting hired, and no one raised any red flags. How that is so baffles me. There was absolutely no need for him to rob two young people of their lives. Thanks for allowing me to Ramble on this. Putting the words down in print is a little cathartic. I wish the family, friends and co-workers of Alison and Adam peace and healing. ================= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:51:30 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Back to work finally From: BBC Trading Hey guys, I've been a bit inactive for a while due to some issues I've been dealing with for over a year. I got very sick at the end of 2013 and left my job in NYC for a job closer to home. However I continued to get sick often and waslet go in May 2014. I was hospitalized a couple times due to complicationswith my diabetes and also with blood clots in my legs and lungs. After a while I was getting better but being out of work really took its toll on me.I ended up being very depressed and need help with that. So I spend a couple more months working on that. Well I started looking for work again about5 or 6 months ago but nobody wanted to hire me because I was sick so much and out of work. At the beginning of September I interviewed with Cushman &Wakefield and was hired on the spot. I am now the new senior accountant with them working on MetLife leases around the country. Anyway, during the last month or so I have received several great OBC packages and haven't posted thanks yet. I feel terrible about this. Things are really turning around for me and I will get those thanks posted shortly. I truly appreciate all the cards people have sent me and each package brightened my mood when I would get them. I guess I wanted to let everyone know what has been going on in my life and that I still love OBC and will be much more active going forward. You guys really are amazing and I love reading about all the hits people get on the thanks server every day. Thanks for reading this far. Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:53:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The WDBJ shootings From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I echo your sentiments exactly. It's kind of weird how I felt about this over the countless other senseless acts we have seen recently. I think back on all the times I held a mic in my hands interviewing someone or was sitting in a press conference with a large gathering of people. I am extremely sad over this. We used to be the "neutral" parties when something was going on the was newsworthy. I would NEVER have thought in my wildest dreams that something like that would happen to me. My NY thinking was, why didn't you just fkn kill yourself? Why did you have to take someone with you? And we don't even get the chance to kick his ass for his actions because he took the cowardly way out. The mental illness part... yes he HAD to be sick to do this. But we have way gone over the political correctness that people deserve and 2nd, 3rd, 8th, 15th chance. When I was a supervisor, it was nearly impossible to get someone fired. They were afraid of lawsuits, etc. There is basically ZERO accountability, it's always someone else's fault. We have made great strides recognizing mental illness and finding ways for people to deal with it. But yes, we as a society are letting people get away with way too much. No respect for teachers, police, or any other authority figures. There was always a respect and certain amount of fear of dealing with authority. That, sadly, as gone by the wayside. It tears me up that this happened, and as Tom said "on a fluff piece". I imagine that it has affected anyone who has been on our side of the microphone. Senseless, ridiculous, whatever adjective you wish to use. It's a very sad day indeed for anyone ever associated with the media... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/27/2015 12:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi guys, This, as the title indicates, is a non-baseball Ramble. But the senseless killings of two young journalists from WDBJ in Roanoke has affected me very As many of you may know, I spent a long time in my career working in local TV news. I started my TV career running Master Control at one station in Dayton, then moved to the then-NBC affiliate. After a few months as a jack-of-all-trades operations engineer, I started directing news. I was safe the control room duringshows, but on occasional days I was the Live Truck driver (at the time the station didn't let the photojournalists drive the Live Truck). This was the only time when I was in the field with the reporter & photog, and thankfully during that time, no overly-crazy people approached or threatened us. Once I moved to the CBS affiliate, I was a full-time director, safe in the control room for every newscast. But I was around the news staff in the newsroom all the time, and of course, crazy people being crazy people, someof our reporters even had to get restraining orders against people. Thankfully nothing violent ever happened. Our parking lot was wide-open & a times some sketchy people approached one of us - me included - but no one ever became violent. Every time we went live, it was always in the back of my mind that something could, in theory, happen to the reporter or photog - and what could of us do? They were extremely vulnerable out there - especially in bad neighborhoods or on crime stories, but as yesterday's s tragedy shows, even innocent fluff stories are a magnet for idiots. I never knew Alison Parker or Adam Ward, the two victims of yesterday's shooting, Until yesterday, I probably could not have picked out Roanoke on a map. And I'm no longer working at a TV station. But anyone who works or has worked in that b usiness is part of an extended family, and I am grieving for the WDBJ employees, and the families of the victims, for the loss of their son/daughter/fiance/friend. The, pardon me, asshole who did this clearly had a lot of mental problems; he was a problem employee for many other stations as well, yet he kept getting hired, and no one raised any red flags. How that is so baffles me. There was absolutely no need for him to rob two young people of their lives. Thanks for allowing me to Ramble on this. Putting the words down in print is a little cathartic. I wish the family, friends and co-workers of Alison and Adam peace and ================= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:21:16 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 2016 National question From: Glenn Codere Hey guys, I know its a long way off, but I've been doing some initial investigation into travelling from Glasgow to Atlantic City for next year's National. Bearing in mind that I don't drive, can anyone with some local knowledge tell me how I might get from Philadelphia (which I can fly into DIRECT......woo hoo!) to Atlantic City? ================= To: Glenn Codere , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 11:48:42 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National question From: Taylor Schock I haven't paid that close attention to the discussions on Net54 (since I'llbe driving), but I think there is a (daily?) train that goes from Philly to AC and back again, which takes about 1 hour. Not sure if it is part of Amtrak or something else though. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 15:21:16 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National question Hey guys, I know its a long way off, but I've been doing some initial investigation into travelling from Glasgow to Atlantic City for next year's National. Bearing in mind that I don't drive, can anyone with some local knowledge tell me how I might get from Philadelphia (which I can fly into DIRECT......woo hoo!) to Atlantic City? ================= To: =?utf-8?B?T0JDIFJhbWJsaW5ncw==?= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:57:03 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 National question From: "Ken M" ================= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:15:22 -0700 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1953 Topps Baseball Card MICKEY MANTLE #82 New York Yankees **Original** From: Rick Thinking of bidding anyone see any red flags View item: 1953 Topps Baseball Card MICKEY MANTLE #82 New York Yankees **Original** End Time: Aug 28, 2015, 11:12:20 PM PDT Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 18:45:52 -0500 To: "" Subject: Registered sets From: OBC Nick P Maybe this is a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. I've been seeing stuff about "registered sets" through PSA or SGC. What isa registered set? Why register a set? What does it do? What does it cost? Is it worth it? Is it just more of the slabbed card world? How does aset become registered? Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:25:20 -0400 To: OBC Nick P , "" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Registered sets From: JDahms ================= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:28:16 -0700 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Registered sets From: Geordie Calvert Yes, cards must be slabbed. PSA by far has the most extensive and competitive registry. I myself have a few registered sets: a complete 1978 Topps Dodgers set (all PSA 9), and a basic and master Brett Butler player set. > On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:45 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Maybe this is a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. > I've been seeing stuff about "registered sets" through PSA or SGC. What is a registered set? Why register a set? What does it do? What does it cost?Is it worth it? Is it just more of the slabbed card world? How does a set become > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= To: Geordie Calvert , OBC Nick P Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 20:44:04 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Registered sets From: Taylor Schock My one and only PSA registered set, #2 on the list. http://www.psacard.com/PSASetRegistry/publishedset.aspx?s139714 OK, don't get too bent out of shape... It is #2 out of 2. LOL CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: nachobcards@yahoo.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:28:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Registered sets Yes, cards must be slabbed. PSA by far has the most extensive and competitive registry. I myself have a few registered sets: a complete 1978 Topps Dodgers set (all PSA 9), and a basic and master Brett Butler player set. On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:45 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Maybe this is a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. I've been seeing stuff about "registered sets" through PSA or SGC. What isa registered set? Why register a set? What does it do? What does it cost? Is it worth it? Is it just more of the slabbed card world? How does aset become registered? Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 19:06:54 -0700 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Registered sets From: Geordie Calvert Oh, forgot to add that it's free to either join an existing registry or start a new one. Starting a new one will require a bit of a wait, though. For gits and shiggles, here's a link to my Brett Butler master set. http://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/alltimeset.aspx?s31657 I'm pretty sure it's fairly easy to find my Dodgers registry from there. > On Aug 28, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Geordie Calvert wrote: > Yes, cards must be slabbed. PSA by far has the most extensive and competitive registry. I myself have a few registered sets: a complete 1978 Topps Dodgers set (all PSA 9), and a basic and master Brett Butler player set. > Geordie >> On Aug 28, 2015, at 4:45 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Maybe this is a dumb question but I'll ask anyways. >> I've been seeing stuff about "registered sets" through PSA or SGC. What is a registered set? Why register a set? What does it do? What does it cost? Is it worth it? Is it just more of the slabbed card world? How does a set become registered? >> Nick Pelletier >> Nachobcards@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 09:46:19 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Registered sets From: Robert Fitts Hi Nick I don=92t have much time to ramble this morning, but I have a large number of Registered Sets at PSA. It=92s basically a male pissing contest to see who can assemble the highest graded card sets- and a way for PSA to get you hooked into grading commons. It=92s kind of stupid and kind of fun at the same ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:56:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , Robert Fitts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Registered sets From: familytoad@comcast.net d0&usersetid3598&srcother

If I linked these correctly, it shows a couple of my registry sets . I use SGC, not PSA because I like their customer service and the presentation in the black holders.
I have a few registered sets, my favorite is my HOF collection and next is myT205 master set.

I use the registry not as a pissing contest (I totally understand if some folks do) nor to be at all elitist, but rather to help checklist and display my collection that otherwise is stored away.

And not to make this an argument for slabbing versus raw, but I won't have these cards forever. Grading provides the potential next owner with someassurance of authenticity and condition. Those two factors affect value, and if the collection (that I currently love) can someday help me financially, it's a win to have them organized like this.

So that's what registered sets mean to me.
OBC Forever,
Brian


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From:Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings]
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Hi Nick
I don=E2=99t have much time to ramble this morning, but I have a large number of Registered Sets at PSA.It=E2=99s basically a male pissing contest to see who can assemble the highest graded card sets- and a way for PSA to get you hooked into grading commons.  It=E2=99s kind of stupid and kind of fun at the same time
rob

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================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 16:14:45 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Topps "Coolest Card" for 2016 From: Sean McGowan If you are new, you should check out my "Coolest Card" page. I have my selection for the collest topps card from each year. I just put in the 2016 page. Even if you aren't new. check how what you haven't see before. Feedback is welcome :) Go OBC! http://sean-mcgowan.org/cooltopps/front.htm ================= Date: 29 Aug 2015 13:19:46 -0700 To: Subject: On the DL From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:35:19 -0500 Subject: A Woody Mystery.... From: Patrick Wattigny I was sorting cards in my 1962 binder just a moment ago, and I realized a mystery. Roy McMillan doesn't have a regular Topps card in the 1962 set. He is on Midway Masters, card # 211, but as far as I can tell, he doesn't have a regular issue card in the Woody set. Does anybody have any idea on this one as to why he doesn't? Padre Pat ================= To: "'Patrick Wattigny'" , Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:42:48 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A Woody Mystery.... From: "Grant Rainsley" Maybe they gave him a check mark for his '62 All Star card and said "There, he's got one." ???? I dunno....odd. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wattigny seventytwop@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:35 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A Woody Mystery.... I was sorting cards in my 1962 binder just a moment ago, and I realized a mystery. Roy McMillan doesn't have a regular Topps card in the 1962 set. He is on Midway Masters, card # 211, but as far as I can tell, he doesn't have a regular issue card in the Woody set. Does anybody have any idea on this one as to why he doesn't? Padre Pat ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:59:45 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] On the DL From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Hang in there, I never knew body parts could be recalled. I'd like my shoulder recalled so I can throw a softball hard again... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/29/2015 4:19:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: OBC'ers - I will be out of the loop for several weeks. On Tuesday, I will be having my right hip replaced for the second time. It is one of those that was recalled by the DEPuy company. It has led to increased levels of toxins such as cobalt and chromium. It has also caused pain. The best case scenario is they open the hip and scoop out the metal ball and replace it with the plastic one. The worst case would be that they have to replace the cup and the stem that goes into the leg bone. IN that case they might have to split the bone to remove the old metal part and then screw it back together. I will be in the hospital for four days. My surgeon is a good one. He did my first 2 surgeries and specializes in ortho replacements. I will quit whining now. Take care, Richard Labs ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:44:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] On the DL From: richard dingman My sister had her hip replaced years ago, it was a bad job, constant pain and eventually implanted device was recalled. She became part of a class action suit that dragged for years and recently she got a modest settlement. Her hip was replaced again, and, so far, successfully, though I don't knowthe Generally these have become fairly routine and mostly quite successful. Good luck Richard! Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:59:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] On the DL Hang in there, I never knew body parts could be recalled. I'd like my shoulder recalled so I can throw a softball hard again... OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/29/2015 4:19:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: OBC'ers - I will be out of the loop for several weeks. On Tuesday, I will be having my right hip replaced for the second time. It is one of those that was recalled by the DEPuy company. It has led to increased levels of toxins such as cobalt and chromium. It has also caused pain. The best case scenario is they open the hip and scoop out the metal ball and replace it with the plastic one. The worst case would be that they have to replace the cup and stem that goes into the leg bone. IN that case they might have to split the bone to remove the old metal part and then screw it back together. I willbe in the hospital for four days. My surgeon is a good one. He did my first 2 surgeries and specializes in ortho replacements. I will quit whining Take care, Richard Labs ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:45:25 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1961 Topps - killed From: Rob Bessette After about a year of needing this card I finally found one at the right price. Just after Guru introduced me to Joe's Vintage Auctions I picked this Maris AS up for $16. That's it for me. 1961 Topps is done. Probably one of the hardest 60s sets for me. 1966 has still proven to be the toughest. Thatone took me forever!!! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:21:52 -0400 Subject: Dealer waiver wire From: Taylor Schock Kurt Turdot provided some waiver wire cards, so you KNOW they are OBC condition and range from technical fair to Tipton 10s. Who will get the braille card? The minis? The whiteout? The 'peace uniform' card? The 'hidden smiley'? And my favorite, the official "worthless bum" card? Which might be the best condition of them all. (sorry, yours truly already claimed the 3D card) If there are any below you would like, or if you want a 'special' card based on the above description, let me know. 1959 Topps - 91 1960 Topps - 60 1961 Topps - 153, 186, 235, 239, 321, 338, 466, 476, 488 1964 Topps - 518 1966 Topps - 493 1967 Topps - 74, 173, 413 1968 Topps - 65, 119, 202, 317, 325, 346, 353, 424, 452 1969 Topps - 47 1975 Hostess - 8 1981 Squirt - 8(Schmidt), 19(Winfield) 1958 Topps - 43 1964 Topps - 63, 85, 156 1968 Topps - 141 1972-73 Topps - 160(checklist) ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:32:19 -0500 To: Robert Fitts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Registered sets From: OBC Nick P Thank you for the input. Much appreciated. I don't think I'm going to go down the road. It costs a fortune to slab every card in a set....and with only two sets id even consider not yet my cup of tea. I still prefer to see, touch, and smell my cards. It's sort of what I figured but not quite. I knew Obc would know! Nick Pelletier > On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Nick > I don=E2=99t have much time to ramble this morning, but I have a largenumber of Registered Sets at PSA. It=E2=99s basically a male pissing contest to see who can assemble the highest graded card sets- and a way for PSA to get you hooked into grading commons. It=E2=99s kind of stupid andkind of fun at the same time > rob > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end ofeach posted message. > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:46:37 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Topps - killed [1 Attachment] From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Well done! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/29/2015 6:45:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://1615b020/default.html#TopText) from Rob Bessette included below] After about a year of needing this card I finally found one at the right price. Just after Guru introduced me to Joe's Vintage Auctions I picked this Maris AS up for $16. That's it for me. 1961 Topps is done. Probably one of the hardest 60s sets for me. 1966 has still proven to be the toughest. That one took me forever!!! ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:48:44 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Woody Mystery.... From: Matthew Glidden A few did notice his "normal card" omission in the past, but I don't think anyone proposed a solution beyond the idea that Topps made a mistake. He moved from Cincy to Milwaukee for 1961, but the Midway Masters card shows they had photos of him. Oops? On Saturday, August 29, 2015, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Maybe they gave him a check mark for his =E2=9962 All Star card and said > =E2=9CThere, he=E2=99s got one.=E2=9D ???? > I dunno=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6odd. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > ] *On > Behalf Of *Patrick Wattigny seventytwop@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:35 PM > *To:* obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] A Woody Mystery.... > I was sorting cards in my 1962 binder just a moment ago, and I realized a > mystery. Roy McMillan doesn't have a regular Topps card in the 1962 set. > He is on Midway Masters, card # 211, but as far as I can tell, he doesn't > have a regular issue card in the Woody set. Does anybody have any idea on > this one as to why he doesn't? > Padre Pat ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:48:21 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Registered sets From: Wes Shepard I like to smell them too. And listen to them. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:32 PM, OBC Nick P nachobcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thank you for the input. Much appreciated. I don't think I'm going to go down the road. It costs a fortune to slab every card in a set....and with only two sets id even consider not yet my cup of tea. I still prefer to see,touch, and smell my cards. > It's sort of what I figured but not quite. I knew Obc would know! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com > > On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > > > > Hi Nick > > I don=E2=99t have much time to ramble this morning, but I have a large number of Registered Sets at PSA. It=E2=99s basically a male pissing contest to see who can assemble the highest graded card sets- and a way forPSA to get you hooked into grading commons. It=E2=99s kind of stupid and kind of fun at the same time > > rob > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. > > > > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > > > > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > > > ================= Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 23:59:33 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 70s and 71s available From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok boys, I have sorted out those 2 years from the boxes I had Kent send me. Too many to post, point me to your want lists. I decided instead of me hitting you up with the postage, just find stuff on my lists. Just a lot easier that way. Greg H, I already pulled a bunch of 1970 from your list. Point me in the right direction boys, I need to lighten the load... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 12:19:37 -0400 To: OBC Nick P Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Registered sets From: Robert Fitts yeah, registered set are definitely not for everybody. my registered sest are all Japanese cards. I do it because I often own multiple sets of the same issue and sell the duplicates. Having the cards graded allows me to determine which cards are in best condition and keep them for my set. I can often sell the graded doubles for enough to pay for the grading. On Aug 29, 2015, at 7:32 PM, OBC Nick P wrote: > Thank you for the input. Much appreciated. I don't think I'm going to go down the road. It costs a fortune to slab every card in a set....and with only two sets id even consider not yet my cup of tea. I still prefer to see, touch, and smell my cards. > It's sort of what I figured but not quite. I knew Obc would know! > Nick Pelletier > Nachobcards@yahoo.com >> On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Hi Nick >> I don=92t have much time to ramble this morning, but I have a large number of Registered Sets at PSA. It=92s basically a male pissing contest to see who can assemble the highest graded card sets- and a way for PSA to get you hooked into grading commons. It=92s kind of stupid and kind of fun at the same time >> rob >> ------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------ >> The OBC-AC would like to remind members to sign their names at the end of each posted message. >> Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. >> OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html >> ------------------------------------ >> Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:30:30 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Then there was one! From: ChicoD1@aol.com Milton Bradley that is. I just scored the Ryan for 187.50. about 15 bucks higher than I wanted to go, but it got hit from $145 to $187 in the last 3 seconds. In looking at my Met set and with the help of Jay, I'm pretty certain my Seaver is an MB. With that being said, all I need is a Frisella to complete the MB trio of Mets. I see a guy on Net54 that has one, so I may approach him about it. The OT I worked yesterday just paid for Nolan! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 30 Aug 2015 19:46:47 -0700 To: Subject: 1958 Hires Root Beer From: bdangelo@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:55:29 +0000 (UTC) To: yahoogroups Subject: Stupid SGC questions From: Jerry Coker Hello ... I've never sent a card to SGC for grading but was thinking of sending in my 1963 Topps Rose RC plus maybe a few tobacco cards. Just haven't decided yet since I don't fully understand what the cost on my end would be. So ... it looks like the cost for sending in the Rose RC would fall under SGC's Post-1948 service $7 per card, 10 card minimum. Does that mean IHAVE to send in 10 post-1948 cards (including the Rose) ... and that the cost would be $70 + shipping? What if the value of the Rose RC is over $250?How do they calculate the cost if 1 of the 10 cards is valued over $250? Just thought another OBC'er had recently submitted to SGC and can give me some advice. I may just be missing this info. so feel free to point me to theright place. Or I guess I should just contact SGC. Why do I want to get myRose RC graded? Well ... I bought a complete 1963 Topps set quite a few years ago and never realized the condition of the Rose RC was actually prettygood. Not NM but I thought maybe if it got a decent enough grade I could sell it, buy a raw Poor-Good Rose and maybe have some $ left over to buy some more T-205's (I love that tobacco set :-). Anyway ... probably just dreaming but I was giving it some thought. Any advice/comments welcome. Thanks! PS: If grading advice is not intended on Ramblings, forgive me. I can't remember the rules :-)Jerry Coker ================= Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:57:20 -0400 To: Jerry Coker Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stupid SGC questions From: Bob Donaldson Not into grading myself, but if yo uare looking to sell, you should probably go PSA On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Jerry Coker obcbeatle@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hello ... I've never sent a card to SGC for grading but was thinking of > sending in my 1963 Topps Rose RC plus maybe a few tobacco cards. Just > haven't decided yet since I don't fully understand what the cost on my end > would be. > So ... it looks like the cost for sending in the Rose RC would fall under > SGC's Post-1948 service $7 per card, 10 card minimum. Does that mean I > HAVE to send in 10 post-1948 cards (including the Rose) ... and that the > cost would be $70 + shipping? What if the value of the Rose RC is over > $250? How do they calculate the cost if 1 of the 10 cards is valued over > $250? Just thought another OBC'er had recently submitted to SGC and can > give me some advice. I may just be missing this info. so feel free to point > me to the right place. Or I guess I should just contact SGC. Why do I want > to get my Rose RC graded? Well ... I bought a complete 1963 Topps set quite > a few years ago and never realized the condition of the Rose RC was > actually pretty good. Not NM but I thought maybe if it got a decent enough > grade I could sell it, buy a raw Poor-Good Rose and maybe have some $ left > over to buy some more T-205's (I love that tobacco set :-). Anyway ... > probably just dreaming but I was giving it some thought. Any > advice/comments welcome. Thanks! > PS: If grading advice is not intended on Ramblings, forgive me. I can't > remember the rules :-) > Jerry Coker ================= To: "'Jerry Coker'" , Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:17:03 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Stupid SGC questions From: "Grant Rainsley" I have never really figured out (or really thought about it that hard) justhow you declare value if you don=E2=99t know what the card will grade out to be=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6..so I stopped thinking about it. The Rose is a good choice, just to confirm that it is not a counterfeit/reprint=E2=A6=E2=A6there is a good website out there for figuring that out. Mine is a lowly PSA 1.5, but I am happy to know I didn=E2=99t get taken. And one day I will free that puppy from the tomb=E2=A6=E2=A6=E2=A6. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Coker obcbeatle@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 11:55 AM To: yahoogroups Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Stupid SGC questions Hello ... I've never sent a card to SGC for grading but was thinking of sending in my 1963 Topps Rose RC plus maybe a few tobacco cards. Just haven't decided yet since I don't fully understand what the cost on my end would be. So ... it looks like the cost for sending in the Rose RC would fall under SGC's Post-1948 service $7 per card, 10 card minimum. Does that mean I HAVEto send in 10 post-1948 cards (including the Rose) ... and that the cost would be $70 + shipping? What if the value of the Rose RC is over $250? How do they calculate the cost if 1 of the 10 cards is valued over $250? Just thought another OBC'er had recently submitted to SGC and can give me some advice. I may just be missing this info. so feel free to point me to the right place. Or I guess I should just contact SGC. Why do I want to get my RoseRC graded? Well ... I bought a complete 1963 Topps set quite a few years ago and never realized the condition of the Rose RC was actually pretty good. Not NM but I thought maybe if it got a decent enough grade I could sell it, buy a raw Poor-Good Rose and maybe have some $ left over to buy some more T-205's (I love that tobacco set :-). Anyway ... probably just dreaming but I was giving it some thought. Any advice/comments welcome. Thanks! PS: If grading advice is not intended on Ramblings, forgive me. I can't remember the rules :-) Jerry Coker ================= Date: 31 Aug 2015 14:19:25 -0700 To: Subject: End of August Waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 20:42:35 -0400 Subject: Card shows are like a box of chocolates From: Taylor Schock Went to a semi-local show this weekend about 1.5 hours away and wasn't expecting much of what I was looking for. But these are the kinds of shows where you end up with stuff you were NOT looking for. Last time I ended up witha book of '50s movie lobby photos for about $1 apiece. Nothing huge, but acouple of decent ones (and some great re-releases of some '30s movies). This time it was actual baseball cards. First I found a guy with a Ryan RC, so I checked the back and thought it was an MB. It was. But $120 asking price was even too much for the condition (IMO). I may have gone $80, but I'll never know. In the interim of looking around and prior to asking about it, the card went to someone else at the show. Oh well. Not a huge deal or loss. Interestingly enough, that wasn't the only '68 Milton Bradley at the show. In looking through some other commons boxes, I found a few variations including some '72 Green CS Cubs for 50 cents, some really nice '62 green tints for a $1, and stack of '68 Topps baseballs for 75 cents each, which I got for 50 cents apiece as well. Again interestingly enough, most of the '68 Topps were actually MBs. I had to look like 3 times. It was like '68 Topps were mixed in with the Milton Bradley's (and not the other way around, which is what threw me). So I ended up grabbing the stack of MBs, which were all in the VG to EXMT range. No Ryan's here, though afterwards I thought I should have asked him about '68 stars, as he may have pulled them from the stack of 25 cards I ended up with (I guess that means I'm working on a new set). Oh well, I'll check with him next show. It wasn't until I got home and realized that BOTH the Cox and Brinkman yellow teams were in that stack. Didn't get much else but it's those 'kinds of finds' that make the shows worthwhile. ================= Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 21:27:17 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Card shows are like a box of chocolates From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Got a Frisella? lol Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 8/31/2015 8:42:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Went to a semi-local show this weekend about 1.5 hours away and wasn't expecting much of what I was looking for. But these are the kinds of shows where you end up with stuff you were NOT looking for. Last time I ended up with a book of '50s movie lobby photos for about $1 apiece. Nothing huge, but a couple of decent ones (and some great re-releases of some '30s movies). This time it was actual baseball cards. First I found a guy with a Ryan RC, so I checked the back and thought it was an MB. It was. But $120 asking price was even too much for the condition (IMO). I may have gone $80, but I'll never know. In the interim of looking around and prior to asking about it, the card went to someone else at the show. Oh well. Not a huge deal or loss. Interestingly enough, that wasn't the only '68 Milton Bradley at the show. In looking through some other commons boxes, I found a few variations including some '72 Green CS Cubs for 50 cents, some really nice '62 green tints for a $1, and stack of '68 Topps baseballs for 75 cents each, which I got for 50 cents apiece as well. Again interestingly enough, most of the '68 Topps were actually MBs. I had to look like 3 times. It was like '68 Topps were mixed in with the Milton Bradley's (and not the other way around, which is what threw me). So I ended up grabbing the stack of MBs, which were all in the VG to EXMT range. No Ryan's here, though afterwards I thought I should have asked him about '68 stars, as he may have pulled them from the stack of 25 cards I ended up with (I guess that means I'm working on a new set). Oh well, I'll check with him next show. It wasn't until I got home and realized that BOTH the Cox and Brinkman yellow teams were in that stack. Didn't get much else but it's those 'kinds of finds' that make the shows ================= Date: 31 Aug 2015 19:19:53 -0700 To: Subject: threshold reached From: mikesportsfan@aol.com