================= Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:59:09 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1964 Venezuelan cards From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I mentioned a couple of months ago a dealer at a MI show who had a stack of64 Venezuelans that would choke a horse. Three people emailed me for his details, but I had no information. Well, I bumped into him again, and thistime got his email address. I did not keep track of who asked, hence thisgroup email. Regardless, it's Greg Ackerberg, and he can be reached at gregory.ackerberg@yahoo.com Be happy, John Scott Gray Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:36:03 -0500 Subject: superbowl super foul up From: "Supreme Commander" my email changed, and I changed it on yahoo groups, but my emails won't go out and I can't figure out what is wrong with Yahoo groups :( Josh, Mark and Chuck, I will get you guys squares. Everyone else, if you have already checked your squares, some may change... I will try to be as random as possible. Think of Chuck, Josh, and Mark! :) The pool is at I hope this goes out ... ================= Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:09:21 -0700 To: Supreme Commander Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] superbowl super foul up From: Marshall West I received this e-mail from Sean, but the squares link does=92t work (for me). If someone knows my numbers, let me know if you get a chance. Thanks, and Happy Superbowl, Marshall West > On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:36 AM, 'Supreme Commander' seanobc@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Kids, > my email changed, and I changed it on yahoo groups, but my emails won't > go out and I can't figure out what is wrong with Yahoo groups :( > Josh, Mark and Chuck, I will get you guys squares. Everyone else, if you > have already checked your squares, some may change... I will try to > be as random as possible. Think of Chuck, Josh, and Mark! :) > The pool is at > sean-mcgowan.org/pool-15.htm > I hope this goes out ... > Sean ================= To: meyergray@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 17:33:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Venezuelan cards From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Greg has also been setting up at the Redford show the last couple of months, and has had them with him. I am interested in the 64 Venezuelans, as I have about 60% of the set. His are nice shape for Venezuelans, although farfrom mint. Most commons are around $8, and I am trying to get him to sellthem closer to $5, and a similar discount for the stars. He has almost 100 I need. If anyone is interested in trying to buy the group, the next Redford show is in 2 weeks, February 15, and I can try and swing a deal and call you to be in on the discussion. If someone contacts Greg separately and acquires the lot, let me know as I have some dupes I can swap also. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: Jo Meyer and John Gray meyergray@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 1, 2015 11:59 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 Venezuelan cards My friends, I mentioned a couple of months ago a dealer at a MI show who had a stack of64 Venezuelans that would choke a horse. Three people emailed me for his details, but I had no information. Well, I bumped into him again, and thistime got his email address. I did not keep track of who asked, hence thisgroup email. Regardless, it's Greg Ackerberg, and he can be reached at gregory.ackerberg@yahoo.com Be happy, John Scott Gray Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 01 Feb 2015 16:02:52 -0800 To: Subject: a couple waivers from todays show From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 01 Feb 2015 14:17:05 -0800 To: Subject: Short show report today From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 01:00:42 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC Super Bowl Pool From: Glenn Codere AT LAST!!!!!!!!!!!! GlennGlenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection ================= Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 20:27:07 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Super Bowl Pool From: Larry Tipton Atta Boy Glen!!! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 20:39:28 -0500 Subject: 2015 OBCAC election From: "Mark Holland" It is time to submit your nomination for the 2015 OBC-AC members and facilitator. Nominations will be accepted through Feb.15th. Send me an email with one nomination for Facilitator, multiple nominees allowed for AC members. The same person can be nominated for both positions. Each nominee must concur before being added to the ballot. It works best if you CC your nominee on your email to me. Then the nominee should send a confirmation email stating that they are willing to serve if elected. To be eligible a member needs to have been in OBC for 3 years (as of Feb.15) and you cannot nominate yourself. To recap the process, confirmed nominations to me prior to midnight Feb 15 ... Election Feb 16 - Feb 28. Results published March 1. Several have already submitted nominations, no need to resubmit. Feel free to send questions regarding the process. Mark Holland ================= Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 18:05:37 -0800 To: "" Subject: 1953 Topps Mickey Mantle Baseball Card From: Rick Do you guys think this is real View item: 1953 Topps Mickey Mantle Baseball Card End Time: Feb 1, 2015, 7:00:27 PM PST Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 03:06:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Speechless in Seattle From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= To: , Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 19:10:43 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Speechless in Seattle From: "Grant Rainsley" Two words.............BEAST MODE. Unbelievably stupid play call. Go with what brought you to the dance. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February-01-15 7:06 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Speechless in Seattle OBC Forever Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 19:18:33 -0800 To: Grant Rainsley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speechless in Seattle From: Geordie Calvert Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Might be the worst play call I've ever seen. > On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:10 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Two words.............BEAST MODE. > Unbelievably stupid play call. Go with what brought you to the dance. > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: February-01-15 7:06 PM > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Speechless in Seattle > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 19:21:28 -0800 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Speechless in Seattle From: Rick Second these thoughts someone has some explaining to do Sent from my iPad > On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:18 PM, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Might be the worst play call I've ever seen. >> On Feb 1, 2015, at 7:10 PM, 'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Two words.............BEAST MODE. >> Unbelievably stupid play call. Go with what brought you to the dance. >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> Sent: February-01-15 7:06 PM >> To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Speechless in Seattle >> OBC Forever >> Brian >> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= To: =?utf-8?B?T0JDLVJhbWJsaW5nc0B5YWhvb2dyb3Vwcy5jb20+?= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 06:13:54 GMT Subject: Not Speechless in New England From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= To: "jehutch75@gmail.com" , Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:27:06 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] P2 Sweet Caporal Pins- what can you guys tell From: Mac Wubben I'm two away from the set...overall it's a fun and relatively inexpensive set. As Joshua said, there are large and small print letter variations...but I don't recall any team variations. Very few people seem to collect the set, so you can get nice deals on low starting bid pins. The bigger lots seem to draw more $. So, if you're patient, you can get some pretty good deals. The SP's aren't that difficult for the most part...maybe 1/3 to 1/2 as many as a typical pin, but not a ton of competition. You'll find them eventually. The big downside of the set is that there aren't many traders out there. Idon't think I made more than two P2 for P2 trades while collecting the whole You can get a nice Cobb for around $200, Cy Young, Matty and Johnson for $100 or less usually. A fair amount cheaper than other sets of the era. Most of my commons were in the $5-$10 range, though they seem to be creeping up a bit. To: jehutch75@gmail.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 18:51:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] P2 Sweet Caporal Pins- what can you guys tell me about them? There are some variations that are tough including large and small letters and some team variations. There are also single prints in the set that can be a challenge to find and a challenge to the wallet. Not to mention, thereare two different back inserts, brown and red. I know a few people who have been chasing a master set for years. I know that the straight player set can be done with time but it is a challenge. -----Original Message----- From: jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 12:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] P2 Sweet Caporal Pins- what can you guys tell me about They seem like a reasonable pre-war set to put together- does anyone know of any variations that are ridiculous to find? I would pick up a few and make a run at it if there is some chance of completion. Any info out there? I did do some reading online, but would love some OBC info as well ================= To: =?utf-8?B?T0JDLVJhbWJsaW5nc0B5YWhvb2dyb3Vwcy5jb20=?= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:54:35 GMT Subject: Re: Speechless in Seattle From: =?utf-8?B?Z2FyeWJlYXJkYmJjYXJkc0B5YWhvby5jb20=?= ================= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 11:45:24 -0600 To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Speechless in Seattle From: TJ Valacak I also think it was a terrible call. Beast scores. No doubt in anyone's mind. With that being said, Pats still needed to make the defensive play there. I don't like people saying that Seattle gave New England the game. Still have to make the defensive play, and that cornerback-Butler- made one heck of a defensive play Go Bears! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:00 AM, "hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Completely disagree with Mr. Beard. You have the Beast--you run the Beast. With a time out left, you still have at least two chances running Lynchto get one yard. If the Pats stop him twice--more power to them. > Bone head call in my opinion...... > On 02/02/15, garybeardbbcards@yahoo.com garybeardbbcards@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Guys, i believe, with the time out situation as it were, a pass play was the right call. I think the two best possible plays they could have calledwould have been a play fake to Lynch, rollout pass to the wide receiver near the sideline in the middle of the endzone, or to the tight end followingthe wide out. Or, the exact play they called. I hate a toss up for a "meet me in the corner" pass in a do or die situation. > With one time out left, if they run the ball and dont get in, they burn their last time out, and have to pass the next 2 plays, to kill the clock ifthey dont score (via incomplete pass). > By passing on second down, they preserve the time out to allow more opportunities in subsequent plays, one of which would have been to Lynch. > Just my $0.02, > Gary Beard > 1014 Liada Way > Oxnard, CA 93030 > Sent from my Sprint LG G2 smartphone. ================= To: =?utf-8?B?T0JDLVJhbWJsaW5nc0B5YWhvb2dyb3Vwcy5jb20=?= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:06:06 GMT Subject: Re: Speechless in Seattle From: =?utf-8?B?Z2FyeWJlYXJkYmJjYXJkc0B5YWhvby5jb20=?= ================= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:16:43 -0800 To: "" , Subject: Need to swap for some of these cards. From: Rick I sent Nick Pelletier all I had on his lists but didn't compare to the high number so I would like to swap for some more stuff on his lists so let meknow if you have anything off these and I'll work something out with you. Thanks for looking Rick 1933 GOUDEY 4, 15, 22, 24, 29, 30, 36, 37, 38, 39, 52, 53, 55, 57, 59, 70, 95, 97, 98, 99, 101, 106, 108, 111, 112, 113, 115, 116, 123, 124, 126, 142, 144, 147, 149, 150, 151, 152, 155, 158, 160, 164, 171, 172, 176, 186, 188, 194, 200, 203, 205, 212, 214, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 225, 226, 230, 232, 233, 234, 237, 238, 239. 1940 PLAYBALL 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 26 27 28 29 30 31 33 34 35 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 2 35 236 237 238 239 240 1941 PLAYBALL 1 2 4 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 26 29 31 32 34 35 37 38 39 40 43 44 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 57 58 59 60 61 63 64 65 66 68 69 70 71 72 1962 TOPPS-GREENIES 110 113 114 115 117 119 120 123 125 126 127 132 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 153 161 162 163 166 167 168 170 173 174 175 178 180 181 182 183 185 186 188 190 191 192 193 194 195 1965 TOPPS-embossed 8 Sandy Koufax 27 Willie Mays 29 Boog Powell 55 Mickey Lolich 59 Hank Aaron 65 Bobby Richardson Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 02 Feb 2015 14:47:14 -0800 To: Subject: 1970 Topps Waiver wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:28:05 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: OBC From: Joshua Levine Obviously, I was not in Raleigh last week...maybe someone met this person but it was not me...if someone else could contact him for me, that would be great. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hensley To: wite3 Sent: Mon, Feb 2, 2015 9:15 am Subject: OBC Mr. Levine, The purpose of this email is to inquire about joining the trading group. I met you in Raleigh at the show this past weekend and did a little research. I was present when the gentleman took his picture with you and several other members of the group. I shared a story about meeting Mr. Killebrew. As I stated, I put the puzzle pieces together and found the website. I am very interested in joining this group, if possible. I have a very strong collecting interest in 50's, 60's and 70's as it helps to maintain the memories of talking with my dad. My main interest is trying to complete a set of the Topps Giants and the 1968 Topps Game. Thanks for the consideration and God Bless! ================= Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:34:01 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Speechless in Seattle From: ChicoD1@aol.com Without question, the dumbest call in the history of football. I swear I thought the Jets were playing. Lynch had just bulldogged 4 yards to the 1. He was carrying people on his back all day for extra yards. No doubt he would have scored on 2nd down. The Pats looked defeated. BUT if he didn't, you burn the time out. THEN come back with a safe pass play. Its either going to be a score or incomplete. Then on 4th, the clock doesn't matter. Run it with the horse that got you there. He reminded me of the guy who just got into the hall, Jerome Bettis. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: , Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 19:34:06 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Speechless in Seattle From: "Mark Holland" I think Carroll was afraid that if Lynch scored he would be named the MVP and have to share a stage with Goodell. That would not have represented the team well. He thought the pass was safe enough and would be batted down or caught. If Carroll had Blount, he would have run it....... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 6:34 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Speechless in Seattle Without question, the dumbest call in the history of football. I swear I thought the Jets were playing. Lynch had just bulldogged 4 yards to the 1. He was carrying people on his back all day for extra yards. No doubt he would have scored on 2nd down. The Pats looked defeated. BUT if he didn't, you burn the time out. THEN come back with a safe pass play. Its either going to be a score or incomplete. Then on 4th, the clock doesn't matter. Run it with the horse that got you there. He reminded me of the guy who just got into the hall, Jerome Bettis. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 02 Feb 2015 16:46:51 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Speechless in Seattle From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 00:49:37 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1958 Master Set just about done From: ChicoD1@aol.com I have finally picked up the last 2 Yellows I need, one from COMC and one on Ebay (McDougald/ Dick Williams). Maybe a buck or two higher than I wanted to go, but well worth it none the less. Of course, there is one card I will be missing... Herrer(a). What I have noticed about that set is that a LOT of the Yellows have some that are "half" yellow and go for common prices and there are a million different Herrera's with varying degrees of missing "a". Not counting my chickens until the PO delivers, but I'm feeling pretty good. I am looking for some of those half yellows, so if you have any, I can find them a nice place next to their extreme friends. I remember talking to someone at the National that I am going to grab an Herrera and erase the a completely and call it done! I do have one with a light partial missing a. If anyone has one of these with more of the a missing, I'll take it! Next master almost complete- 1960. Just need 4 Gray backs: 391- W.S. Summary (Gray Back) 400- Colavito (Gray Back) 420- Matthews (Gray Back) 421- Maas (Gray Back) PS- if anyone gets cards on COMC, makes offers on EVERYTHING. Almost every card I picked out, I got for less than the selling price (except for the real cheapies or cards on sale). I put them on my watch list, then pick out the ones I want most. You do have to put cash in the "bank", but I spend what I put in. Just a matter of whatever is left of what I saved, going to the $3 shipping. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 05:59:50 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Interested in OBC (Raleigh) From: Larry Tipton I contacted Mike who has expressed interest in OBC. I kind of remember over-hearing his Killebrew story but I was busy digging through Kurts bargain bins:) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 05:48:22 -0800 To: "" Subject: MICKEY MANTLE 1953 TOPPS BASEBALL #82 NEW YORK YANKEES POOR From: Rick View item: MICKEY MANTLE 1953 TOPPS BASEBALL #82 NEW YORK YANKEES POOR End Time: Feb 4, 2015, 2:43:50 PM PST Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 03 Feb 2015 07:00:34 -0800 To: Subject: open envelopes From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:22:41 -0500 To: rlabs1@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en That happened to me also twice in the last week. I do not know what that is about. All the cards were there, but they could have fallen out. Beware of The Man. Randy Welk In a message dated 2/3/2015 7:00:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Both envelope that were opened were opened by a letter opener of some type as the cuts were so nice and neat. I was amazed that the contents were still there. The cuts were to perfect to be made by the coins. The other package had cards in it. Richard Labs ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:31:57 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: richard dingman Maybe I am paranoid but I think if people in your town know you collect cards, there is more likelihood that someone will open your mail. I have had suspicious openings on mail I've sent to others and won't send to them again without insurance. Richard D To: rlabs1@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:22:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes That happened to me also twice in the last week. I do not know what that is about. All the cards were there, but they could have fallen out. Beware of The Man. Randy Welk In a message dated 2/3/2015 7:00:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Both envelope that were opened were opened by a letter opener of some type as the cuts were so nice and neat. I was amazed that the contents were still there. The cuts were to perfect to be made by the coins. The other package cards in it. Richard Labs ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:41:19 -0500 To: rlabs1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: Jake Elwell It sounds like a USPS worker is on the hunt for collectibles to steal. I took a quick look and there's some chatter among coin collectors online aboutthe problem. It is funny to think of the disappointment they'd feel when finding one of my rusty dented Topps Coins! On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:00 AM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Both envelope that were opened were opened by a letter opener of some type as the cuts were so nice and neat. I was amazed that the contents were still there. The cuts were to perfect to be made by the coins. The other package had cards in it. > Richard Labs ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:01:56 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Open Envelopes From: Randy Griffin I thought it was quite strange when I got an envelope of cards two weeks ago with the same opened end as everyone is talking about. As far as I know, all the cards were still there. I have made it a practice for regular envelopes to put my cards in holders inside a blank piece of paper and tape it to the inside of the envelope. I have also stopped using printed return labels with sports items on them (such as a baseball or basketball, etc.). Not sure what is going on....makes you wonder! Randy Griffin ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:16:47 -0600 To: Jake Elwell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: MarkZ They are probably looking for cash rather than cards Sent from mark z ipod On Feb 3, 2015, at 9:41 AM, "Jake Elwell jelwell8@earthlink.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > It sounds like a USPS worker is on the hunt for collectibles to steal. I took a quick look and there's some chatter among coin collectors online about the problem. It is funny to think of the disappointment they'd feel whenfinding one of my rusty dented Topps Coins! > On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:00 AM, rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Both envelope that were opened were opened by a letter opener of some type as the cuts were so nice and neat. I was amazed that the contents were still there. The cuts were to perfect to be made by the coins. The other package had cards in it. >> Richard Labs > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: 03 Feb 2015 08:17:34 -0800 To: Subject: Open Envelopes From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:26:48 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes From: Shawn Smart I did have that happen to me once last year. I think in my case it was thepostal machine. I sent some Snapple caps in a regular envelope and I think whatever they run them through popped them right out one side. Unfortunately, the two 1971 High Numbers also in that envelope are also probably still at the bottom of said machine. Although recently I have had some envelopes that have not yet made it to their destination after a long period of time. I've thought about filing a theft complaint, although I dont know how that goes when you have no real proof. But I do find it weird that I recently got a new mail person, and suddenly this has happened. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:17:34 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes Since I know one of those envelopes was sent by me, does anyone else know if theirs was sent by me. Almost too many to be a coincidence. Maybe an inside job at my PO. ================= Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 11:39:03 -0500 To: Jake Elwell , rlabs1@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 12:23:17 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: Taylor Schock A couple of items... I had an envelope arrive sometime in the past couple of months arrive with THREE edges of the envelope torn open, yet the contents were still there. So that shows it IS possible to get "very" opened mail with the contents. In the past 15 years (or more), I've only had 2 items/packages go totally missing. Both were '60s Clemente cards (I think a '66 and a '64). And each was to a different mailing address where I lived. I've received a few openedenvelopes, some mangled, some not, but there really wasn't anything in them to be worth "stealing". The mangled ones probably were either machine or fell under the truck (or something like that). The ones that appeared to be more cut might have been stolen. But they alsomay have been stolen anywhere along the line, and not from our local people. I know there was the (mentioned) concern about postal people knowing what you collect, but like with the general populace, most are honest. We know our delivery guys by name (which is easy to do if you are home or work from home), and we know our PO people as well when I ship stuff out from the PO. That can definitely help even if they don't know what specific types of cards you collect, especially when it comes to missing items. They will eitherbe able to help narrow down WHERE in the process it may have gone missing,or if they are the ones doing the taking, then at least they will know that you are "concerned" about this. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 07:00:34 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes Both envelope that were opened were opened by a letter opener of some type as the cuts were so nice and neat. I was amazed that the contents were still there. The cuts were to perfect to be made by the coins. The other package had cards in it. Richard Labs ================= Date: 03 Feb 2015 09:29:59 -0800 To: Subject: I forgot From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 03 Feb 2015 09:33:24 -0800 To: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 12:36:57 -0500 Subject: eBay and Proxibid From: Taylor Schock Interesting... I wonder if/when this might be the first step to full integration, which would include the collectibles area as well. If so, it's not aGOOD thing (IMO). One less avenue outside of ebay. http://www.proxibidcontent.com/ebay-and-proxibid-announce-partnership-for-equipment-and-industrial-online-live-auctions/ ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 12:41:31 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] open envelopes From: RAN912@aol.com I never had any problem with opened mail, but recently my mailman was chased up a palm tree by a large dog. Rich Niessen ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:34:11 -0800 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes [1 Attachment] From: Rick I too had it happen little bite ago when I sent a coin to someone. It is from the sorting machine and when I worked at the post office I had the tour of the plant and seen it in action. The envelopes go in and out of them at such a rapid rate that the uneven thickness jams the envelope and just ripsit open by the force. That is why you see more envelopes stamped unmachinable and then charge a higher postage rate. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:26 AM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Shawn Smart included below] > I did have that happen to me once last year. I think in my case it was the postal machine. I sent some Snapple caps in a regular envelope and I think whatever they run them through popped them right out one side. Unfortunately, the two 1971 High Numbers also in that envelope are also probablystill at the bottom of said machine. > Although recently I have had some envelopes that have not yet made it to their destination after a long period of time. I've thought about filing atheft complaint, although I dont know how that goes when you have no real proof. But I do find it weird that I recently got a new mail person, and suddenly this has happened. > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:17:34 -0800 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes > Guys, > Since I know one of those envelopes was sent by me, does anyone else knowif theirs was sent by me. Almost too many to be a coincidence. Maybe an inside job at my PO. > Mike ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:39:44 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Declining OBC Membership? From: Larry Tipton I=92ve served as an OBCAC member this past year, one of the duties includesvoting on new members. I don=92t remember all that many applications during this term, and after a quick scan of the Directory, it looks like we have added three members this year. It=92s always fun to get new members in OBC, new members bring such great energy into our club! It=92s always fun to welcome the new guys =93in the usual way=94 (sending cards). After Don R completes this years Membership Poll, it looks like we will have between 127-130 active members. I have been told of at least one OBC member who is concerned about declining membership, maybe there are others? I always remember our number of active members being closer to 150, and a longtime ago we actually had a cap on the number of members. In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner ofthe Net54baseball.com website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several ofus visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland. After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probablywouldn=92t allow this as it directs people away from their website), but Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banner adds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to ourrules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain ourwebsite and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, soI am running a =93chip-in=94 campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. Participation in 100% optional. Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=92s ready to go. The bannerwill run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message on the =93Post-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=94. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few pictures of some OBC beauties:) Participation in 100% optional. Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =93chip-in=94. If we don=92t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. Larry Tipton ================= To: Larry Tipton , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:49:43 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: Mac Wubben You guys have probably already thought of it...but if we advertise, I thinkwe should have a one-page landing area that would essentially be our pitch...then direct them to other areas. Also, there was talk of the website upgrade. I'd like to see the site updated a bit before we start trying to sell ourselves...sure, we may be stuck in the past, but our website doesn't have to be ;-) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:39:44 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? I=92ve served as an OBCAC member this past year, one of the duties includesvoting on new members. I don=92t remember all that many applications during this term, and after a quick scan of the Directory, it looks like we have added three members this year. It=92s always fun to get new members in OBC, new members bring such great energy into our club! It=92s always fun towelcome the new guys =93in the usual way=94 (sending cards). After Don R completes this years Membership Poll, it looks like we will have between 127-130 active members. I have been told of at least one OBC member who is concerned about declining membership, maybe there are others? I always remember our number of active members being closer to 150, and a longtime ago we actually had a cap on the number of members. In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner ofthe Net54baseball.com website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several ofus visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland. After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probablywouldn=92t allow this as it directs people away from their website), but Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banner adds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to ourrules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain ourwebsite and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, soI am running a =93chip-in=94 campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. Participation in 100% optional. Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=92s ready to go. The bannerwill run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message on the =93Post-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=94. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few pictures of some OBC beauties:) Participation in 100% optional. Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =93chip-in=94. If we don=92t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. Larry TiptonGuru ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 21:08:13 +0000 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes From: Germane to this topic is the need to post Thanks when receiving cards. I hope I have not ever been remiss in this, because I truly am very thankful for every OBC card that shows up-it is a fantastic upper when coming home from work. I have a system of not taking them off my wantlist until I have posted the thanks, but, like everyone else here, systems get interrupted by real life (and occasional laziness). I usually (although not always) make a list of who I sent cards to (never what was sent, just who), and check them off as the thanks come in. When I don't see a thanks I do wonder if it made it, but unless it was something really big, I don't say anything because I don't want the receiver to feel like I'm asking for thanks (I'm not). If we want to track this, maybe we should have a 'two week' rule, where if you haven't received thanks you should check with the receiver, and if they haven't received it, then we could post the sender and receiver somewhere and see if there is a pattern (Like all beat up cards disappearing somwhere north of Jacksonville, Fl). Just a thought, ---- "Randy Griffin rvkgriffin24@att.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: ============= I thought it was quite strange when I got an envelope of cards two weeks ago with the same opened end as everyone is talking about. As far as I know, all the cards were still there. I have made it a practice for regular envelopes to put my cards in holders inside a blank piece of paper and tape it to the inside of the envelope. I have also stopped using printed return labels with sports items on them (such as a baseball or basketball, etc.). Not sure what is going on....makes you wonder! Randy Griffin ================= To: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 13:57:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Open Envelopes From: "George Vrechek" I had two cards I purchased on eBay for $60 not show up last month. The seller didn't use tracking, but that's no guarantee anyway. At least you might know what day something is likely to arrive with tracking. The seller refunded my money before eBay had to act. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:00:13 -0800 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: Rick I always look at things from the other side maybe because I'm left handed so we're odd. I like the way it is now word of mouth by knowing people or meeting them at a show and talking to them to get to know them or by them finding us because they may be looking for what we have to offer. Even if it means we don't get a lot of growth. I think advertising would bring attention to us for some good people but possibly a lot of bad people. This thinking has zero to do with net54 I want to make that clear I'm really liking them but seems they are high profile and so it opens the door for people on there trying to sell fakes until they get bumped out (one example). I just feel like people find us they probably have good/our intentions. We invite people in we will probably get people with no so good intentions. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I=E2=99ve served as an OBCAC member this past year, one of the duties includes voting on new members. I don=E2=99t remember all that many applications during this term, and after a quick scan of the Directory, it looks like we have added three members this year. > It=E2=99s always fun to get new members in OBC, new members bring suchgreat energy into our club! It=E2=99s always fun to welcome the new guys =E2=9Cin the usual way=E2=9D (sending cards). > After Don R completes this years Membership Poll, it looks like we will have between 127-130 active members. I have been told of at least one OBC member who is concerned about declining membership, maybe there are others? Ialways remember our number of active members being closer to 150, and a long time ago we actually had a cap on the number of members. > In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner of the Net54baseball.com website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several of us visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland.After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. > Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probably wouldn=E2=99t allow this as it directs people away from their website), but Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banneradds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no money. > OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to our rules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain our website and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, so I am running a =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. > Participation in 100% optional. > Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=E2=99s ready to go. The banner will run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message on the =E2=9CPost-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=E2=9D. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few picturesof some OBC beauties:) > Participation in 100% optional. > Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D. If we don=E2=99t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. > Larry Tipton > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 04:00:04 +0000 (UTC) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Tigers fan sits in every section From: mark zentkovich pretty neat, check this out: http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2015/02/02/detroit-tigers-comerica-park-fan-gif mark zentkovich ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:02:15 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: richard dingman I think Rick has a valid point, a concern we should acknowledge. If we do decide to "advertise" I hope, for our protection, we will continue to maintain a firm standard for attaining membership, so that collectors need to prove their seriousness, dedication, collecting goals and integrity before being Richard D CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: larrytipton@windstream.net From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:00:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? I always look at things from the other side maybe because I'm left handed so we're odd. I like the way it is now word of mouth by knowing peopleor meeting them at a show and talking to them to get to know them or by them finding us because they may be looking for what we have to offer. Even if it means we don't get a lot of growth. I think advertising would bring attention to us for some good people but possibly a lot of bad people. This thinking has zero to do with net54 I want to make that clear I'm really liking them but seems they are high profile and so it opens the door for peopleon there trying to sell fakes until they get bumped out (one example). I just feel like people find us they probably have good/our intentions. We invite people in we will probably get people with no so good intentions. Rick Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: I=92ve served as an OBCAC member this past year, one of the duties includesvoting on new members. I don=92t remember all that many applications during this term, and after a quick scan of the Directory, it looks like we have added three members this year. It=92s always fun to get new members in OBC, new members bring such great energy into our club! It=92s always fun towelcome the new guys =93in the usual way=94 (sending cards). After Don R completes this years Membership Poll, it looks like we will have between 127-130 active members. I have been told of at least one OBC member who is concerned about declining membership, maybe there are others? I always remember our number of active members being closer to 150, and a longtime ago we actually had a cap on the number of members. In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner ofthe Net54baseball.com website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several ofus visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland. After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probablywouldn=92t allow this as it directs people away from their website), but Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banner adds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to ourrules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain ourwebsite and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, soI am running a =93chip-in=94 campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. Participation in 100% optional. Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=92s ready to go. The bannerwill run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message on the =93Post-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=94. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few pictures of some OBC beauties:) Participation in 100% optional. Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =93chip-in=94. If we don=92t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. Larry TiptonGuru ================= Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 23:37:26 -0600 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: TJ Valacak I understand the hesitation concerning new membership. But, having potential members complete three trades with OBCers is a good start to see if they can be positive members of our group. The application itself has some good Q&A. If we get short responses or answers we don't really like, we can ask for more detailed responses. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:02 PM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I think Rick has a valid point, a concern we should acknowledge. If we do decide to "advertise" I hope, for our protection, we will continue to maintain a firm standard for attaining membership, so that collectors need to prove their seriousness, dedication, collecting goals and integrity before being > Richard D > CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > To: larrytipton@windstream.net > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:00:13 -0800 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? > I always look at things from the other side maybe because I'm left handedso we're odd. I like the way it is now word of mouth by knowing people or meeting them at a show and talking to them to get to know them or by them finding us because they may be looking for what we have to offer. Even if itmeans we don't get a lot of growth. I think advertising would bring attention to us for some good people but possibly a lot of bad people. This thinking has zero to do with net54 I want to make that clear I'm really liking them but seems they are high profile and so it opens the door for people on there trying to sell fakes until they get bumped out (one example). I just feel like people find us they probably have good/our intentions. We invite people in we will probably get people with no so good intentions. Rick > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I=E2=99ve served as an OBCAC member this past year, one of the duties includes voting on new members. I don=E2=99t remember all that many applications during this term, and after a quick scan of the Directory, it looks like we have added three members this year. > It=E2=99s always fun to get new members in OBC, new members bring suchgreat energy into our club! It=E2=99s always fun to welcome the new guys =E2=9Cin the usual way=E2=9D (sending cards). > After Don R completes this years Membership Poll, it looks like we will have between 127-130 active members. I have been told of at least one OBC member who is concerned about declining membership, maybe there are others? Ialways remember our number of active members being closer to 150, and a long time ago we actually had a cap on the number of members. > In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner of the Net54baseball.com website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several of us visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland.After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. > Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probably wouldn=E2=99t allow this as it directs people away from their website), but Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banneradds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no money. > OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to our rules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain our website and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, so I am running a =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. > Participation in 100% optional. > Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=E2=99s ready to go. The banner will run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message on the =E2=9CPost-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=E2=9D. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few picturesof some OBC beauties:) > Participation in 100% optional. > Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D. If we don=E2=99t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. > Larry Tipton > Guru ================= Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 00:56:50 -0500 To: "TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:37:10 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: 04 Feb 2015 04:04:23 -0800 To: Subject: RAOK Opportunity From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 09:21:37 -0500 To: brightair@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? From: biggies@aol.com Content-Language: en I agree with Rick. I don't think advertising is a good idea. Thanks, Bob In a message dated 2/3/2015 11:02:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I think Rick has a valid point, a concern we should acknowledge. If we do decide to "advertise" I hope, for our protection, we will continue to maintain a firm standard for attaining membership, so that collectors needto prove their seriousness, dedication, collecting goals and integrity before being admitted. Richard D CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: larrytipton@windstream.net From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:00:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Declining OBC Membership? I always look at things from the other side maybe because I'm left handed so we're odd. I like the way it is now word of mouth by knowing people or meeting them at a show and talking to them to get to know them or by them finding us because they may be looking for what we have to offer. Even if it means we don't get a lot of growth. I think advertising would bring attention to us for some good people but possibly a lot of bad people. This thinking has zero to do with net54 I want to make that clear I'm really liking them but seems they are high profile and so it opens the door for people on there trying to sell fakes until they get bumped out (one example). I just feel like people find us they probably have good/our intentions. We invite people in we will probably get people with no so good intentions. Rick Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Larry Tipton _larrytipton@windstream.net_ (mailto:larrytipton@windstream.net) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I=E2=99ve served as an OBCAC member this past year, one of the duties includes voting on new members. I don=E2=99t remember all that many applications during this term, and after a quick scan of the Directory, it looks like we have added three members this year. It=E2=99s always fun to get new members in OBC, new members bring such great energy into our club! It=E2=99s always fun to welcome the new guys =E2=9Cin the usual way=E2=9D (sending cards). After Don R completes this years Membership Poll, it looks like we will have between 127-130 active members. I have been told of at least one OBC member who is concerned about declining membership, maybe there are others? always remember our number of active members being closer to 150, and a long time ago we actually had a cap on the number of members. In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner of the _Net54baseball.com_ (http://net54baseball.com/) website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several of us visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland. After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probably wouldn=E2=99t allow this as it directs people away from their website), Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banner adds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to our rules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain our website and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, so I am running a =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. Participation in 100% optional. Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=E2=99s ready to go. The banner will run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message the =E2=9CPost-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=E2=9D. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few pictures of some OBC beauties:) Participation in 100% optional. Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =E2=9Cchip-in=E2=9D. If we don=E2=99t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. Larry Tipton ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:24:06 -0500 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes From: Doug I too have wondered when I don't see a thank you if the cards didn't arriveor if the individual just didn't have time to post a thank you (happens toall of us sometime) or if I missed the posting. It is awkward to inquire if cards were received (never did hear from Guru on that 52 Mantle I sent three months ago) so I like the idea of a fixed period of time were we track this and find out if we have a measurable degree of "postal shrinkage syndrome". Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2015, at 4:08 PM, "rdn56@nc.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Germane to this topic is the need to post Thanks when receiving cards. I hope I have not ever been remiss in this, because I truly am very thankful for every OBC card that shows up-it is a fantastic upper when coming home from work. I have a system of not taking them off my wantlist until I have posted the thanks, but, like everyone else here, systems get interrupted by real life (and occasional laziness). I usually (although not always) make alist of who I sent cards to (never what was sent, just who), and check them off as the thanks come in. When I don't see a thanks I do wonder if it made it, but unless it was something really big, I don't say anything becauseI don't want the receiver to feel like I'm asking for thanks (I'm not). > If we want to track this, maybe we should have a 'two week' rule, where if you haven't received thanks you should check with the receiver, and if they haven't received it, then we could post the sender and receiver somewhere and see if there is a pattern (Like all beat up cards disappearing somwhere north of Jacksonville, Fl). > Just a thought, > Bob > ---- "Randy Griffin rvkgriffin24@att.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > I thought it was quite strange when I got an envelope of cards two weeks ago with the same opened end as everyone is talking about. As far as I know, all the cards were still there. > I have made it a practice for regular envelopes to put my cards in holders inside a blank piece of paper and tape it to the inside of the envelope. I have also stopped using printed return labels with sports items on them (such as a baseball or basketball, etc.). > Not sure what is going on....makes you wonder! > Randy Griffin ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:53:44 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC Expansion Draft From: Glenn Codere Hey all, Here's my two cents on this. The membership of OBC has definitely changed and developed over the years, and any time discussions around this topic come up there are invariably members who are open to change, those who are ambivalent, and those who are resistant. Personally, I'm up for bringing in some new blood. That being said, I think there is a lot of merit in proceeding with caution. New applicants should (as is currently the case) be required to go through all the usual OBC hoops - make some initial contacts, converse with current members, do some trades, gain trust, get sponsored, then go through the application process. From reading the responses to this topic so far, it seems to me that one of the main worries of an ad campaign on Net54 is a potential sudden influx of a large number of new members. I'm not so sure that this would be the case though. We may see an increase in applications, but how many of those will read the FAQs first? And once it's pointed out what is expected of them before they even reach the application stage, how many will just fall by the wayside? Quite a few, I imagine. I seem to recall several years ago some discussion about a cap on active membership numbers, although I can't remember if an exact number was ever agreed upon and written into "law". If the number and quality of any new members that advertising on Net54 might attract is a worry to some OBCers, perhaps we should once again consider this. The AC could agree an appropriate cap, which could act as a limiter for the immediate future. This would allow us to go down the Net54 path, bring in as much new blood as we feel is appropriate at this time, then reassess the impact after, say, a year. Some allowance would need to be made for inactive members who wish to return, and we might also have to set up a waiting list if demand is high. Remember though that the annual membership poll almost always results in at least a few members leaving the group, so refilling up to the cap limit would likely be relatively easy. The bottom line to all this is that OBC retains full control over the numbers of members in the group until such time as we are happy that those who have joined have been worthwhile, valued additions. It would then be open to future ACs to determine the way forward. There's no doubt that whatever we do, OBC will continue to change. It already has. While I do however believe that the overriding philosophy of the group (WGRCR, RAOKs, etc.) should always be paramount, I think that there is scope for us to put our brand out there to see if we can't attract a few more of the right kind of collectors to join us. I'm sure they're out there! Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:43:36 -0500 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Expansion Draft From: Joel Freedman Hi, I work in the in world where we follow the data. is it possible for someone to chart the membership of OBC from its existence or when ever reliable data is available? This way we could see how we expanded from the mid nineties and see what year we began to contract. This might give us insight into the membership of our group. For instance, where we expanding in the period of 2000-2007 and then contracted along with the economy in Regards, Joel On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey all, > Here's my two cents on this. > The membership of OBC has definitely changed and developed over the years, > and any time discussions around this topic come up there are invariably > members who are open to change, those who are ambivalent, and those who are > resistant. > Personally, I'm up for bringing in some new blood. That being said, I > think there is a lot of merit in proceeding with caution. New applicants > should (as is currently the case) be required to go through all the usual > OBC hoops - make some initial contacts, converse with current members, do > some trades, gain trust, get sponsored, then go through the application > process. > From reading the responses to this topic so far, it seems to me that one > of the main worries of an ad campaign on Net54 is a potential sudden influx > of a large number of new members. I'm not so sure that this would be the > case though. We may see an increase in applications, but how many of those > will read the FAQs first? And once it's pointed out what is expected of > them before they even reach the application stage, how many will just fall > by the wayside? Quite a few, I imagine. > I seem to recall several years ago some discussion about a cap on active > membership numbers, although I can't remember if an exact number was ever > agreed upon and written into "law". If the number and quality of any new > members that advertising on Net54 might attract is a worry to some OBCers, > perhaps we should once again consider this. The AC could agree an > appropriate cap, which could act as a limiter for the immediate future. > This would allow us to go down the Net54 path, bring in as much new blood > as we feel is appropriate at this time, then reassess the impact after, > say, a year. Some allowance would need to be made for inactive members who > wish to return, and we might also have to set up a waiting list if demand > is high. Remember though that the annual membership poll almost always > results in at least a few members leaving the group, so refilling up to the > cap limit would likely be relatively easy. The bottom line to all this is > that OBC retains > full control over the numbers of members in the group until such time as > we are happy that those who have joined have been worthwhile, valued > additions. It would then be open to future ACs to determine the way forward. > There's no doubt that whatever we do, OBC will continue to change. It > already has. While I do however believe that the overriding philosophy of > the group (WGRCR, RAOKs, etc.) should always be paramount, I think that > there is scope for us to put our brand out there to see if we can't attract > a few more of the right kind of collectors to join us. I'm sure they're out > there! > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: 04 Feb 2015 10:46:02 -0800 To: Subject: Re: RAOK Opportunity From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:47:05 -0500 To: uthminsta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: RAOK Opportunity From: biggies@aol.com Content-Language: en I'm in, will send out tomorrow. Great idea. In a message dated 2/4/2015 1:46:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: What a great idea! The video didn't say when his birthday was, but the accompanying article says it is FEBRUARY 11TH. So how many of you have some stuff to send? I'm gonna try to get something out in tomorrow's mail... all those extra Fleer baseball stickers!!!!!!! ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:54:13 -0800 To: "biggies@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: RAOK Opportunity From: Stamper Me too!! I put some Mariners cards and an unopened pack of Topps stickers. John Stamper On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:47 AM, "biggies@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > I'm in, will send out tomorrow. Great idea. > In a message dated 2/4/2015 1:46:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > What a great idea! The video didn't say when his birthday was, but the accompanying article says it is > FEBRUARY 11TH. > So how many of you have some stuff to send? I'm gonna try to get something out in tomorrow's mail... all those extra Fleer baseball stickers!!!!!!! ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:26:59 -0600 To: "uthminsta@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: RAOK Opportunity From: TJ Valacak I've got some stickers as well!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:46 PM, "uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > What a great idea! The video didn't say when his birthday was, but the accompanying article says it is > FEBRUARY 11TH. > So how many of you have some stuff to send? I'm gonna try to get something out in tomorrow's mail... all those extra Fleer baseball stickers!!!!!!! ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:23:50 -0600 To: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Open Envelopes From: TJ Valacak I've had one major incident with the usps. About 6 years ago, I purchased alarge lot of t206's. The lot had a tracking number. The tracking indicatedthe package had been delivered. It was not. I immediately contacted the po. Their overall attitude was "oh well, too bad". It was awful. I cannot tell you how pissed and disappointed I was. I talked to the mailman, postal workers. It was pointless. No one really cared. Still leaves me with a bad taste. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2015, at 9:24 AM, "Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > I too have wondered when I don't see a thank you if the cards didn't arrive or if the individual just didn't have time to post a thank you (happens to all of us sometime) or if I missed the posting. > It is awkward to inquire if cards were received (never did hear from Guruon that 52 Mantle I sent three months ago) so I like the idea of a fixed period of time were we track this and find out if we have a measurable degree of "postal shrinkage syndrome". > Doug > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 3, 2015, at 4:08 PM, "rdn56@nc.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Germane to this topic is the need to post Thanks when receiving cards. Ihope I have not ever been remiss in this, because I truly am very thankfulfor every OBC card that shows up-it is a fantastic upper when coming home from work. I have a system of not taking them off my wantlist until I have posted the thanks, but, like everyone else here, systems get interrupted byreal life (and occasional laziness). I usually (although not always) make a list of who I sent cards to (never what was sent, just who), and check them off as the thanks come in. When I don't see a thanks I do wonder if it made it, but unless it was something really big, I don't say anything because I don't want the receiver to feel like I'm asking for thanks (I'm not). >> If we want to track this, maybe we should have a 'two week' rule, where if you haven't received thanks you should check with the receiver, and if they haven't received it, then we could post the sender and receiver somewhere and see if there is a pattern (Like all beat up cards disappearing somwhere north of Jacksonville, Fl). >> Just a thought, >> Bob >> ---- "Randy Griffin rvkgriffin24@att.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> I thought it was quite strange when I got an envelope of cards two weeksago with the same opened end as everyone is talking about. As far as I know, all the cards were still there. >> I have made it a practice for regular envelopes to put my cards in holders inside a blank piece of paper and tape it to the inside of the envelope.I have also stopped using printed return labels with sports items on them (such as a baseball or basketball, etc.). >> Not sure what is going on....makes you wonder! >> Randy Griffin ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:49:02 -0700 To: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: RAOK Opportunity From: Marshall West I=E2=99m in. Already in the mailbox. Marshall West > On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:26 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I've got some stickers as well!!! > Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:46 PM, "uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > >> What a great idea! The video didn't say when his birthday was, but the accompanying article says it is >> FEBRUARY 11TH. >> So how many of you have some stuff to send? I'm gonna try to get something out in tomorrow's mail... all those extra Fleer baseball stickers!!!!!!! ================= Date: 04 Feb 2015 13:44:07 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Expansion Draft From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 04 Feb 2015 14:00:10 -0800 To: Subject: Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 17:28:58 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: Baseball card shop on etsy From: Matthew Glidden Didn't expect to see a card shop set up via Etsy -- and some of its cards are reasonable, at that. 1949 Bowman Hodges and 1952 high #s among them. https://www.etsy.com/shop/Timsvintagecards ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 00:57:56 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Just an FYI if you did not see it on facebook... From: Joshua Levine This post is over 3 1/2 years in the making. Joshua and I have been struggling with fertility issues in trying to start our family. After 5 attempts at IUI, 4 rounds of IVF, 2 miscarriages and not to mention the many tests, procedures, and medications along with the physical, emotional, & finacial toll this took..... We are ecstatic to announce baby Levine will arrive in early August. Been quiet the last few months...the above is why... OBC has helped greatly and I thank all my friends (old and new) over the past few years. Several of you knew what we were trying to do and what we were doing and I want to send a big thanks to you all (you know who you are!). The rest of you, helped keep me (and as a byproduct) Tiffany sane during the last four years just by giving me a diversion, sending random cards my way to brighten my day, and being a positive force in my life (and the universe). Thanks so much Joshua and Tiffany (and future OBC member!) ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:16:41 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Expansion Draft From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en If you would have run for President of Scotland, you guys would be your own country now! The talk of caps go back to the 90s. There were a few members not happy with the direction of OBC. Some thought we were growing too fast, some thought we should be unlimited, some thought we should have a cap. Others started their own group. These were some of the things that actually created the I agree with Glenn's concept of how we should proceed. With that being said, I finally got accepted to Net54 and have been reading the posts. There are some serious collectors on that site with serious knowledge. I think many of the people that I read from are definitely OBC material. New blood is a good thing. Gives us more opportunities to unload cards sitting in our dupes boxes, and more opportunities to fill our want lists. And we may learn more about cards than we ever thought. Yes, we should be careful in determining who gets in (maybe a little more diligent this time around, as this is new territory for us). Make sure they let us know how they heard about us, so we can see how effective this is for our group. And thanks to Leon for his great support of OBC. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/4/2015 10:53:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hey all, Here's my two cents on this. The membership of OBC has definitely changed and developed over the years, and any time discussions around this topic come up there are invariably members who are open to change, those who are ambivalent, and those who are Personally, I'm up for bringing in some new blood. That being said, I think there is a lot of merit in proceeding with caution. New applicants should (as is currently the case) be required to go through all the usual OBC hoops - make some initial contacts, converse with current members, do some trades, gain trust, get sponsored, then go through the application process. From reading the responses to this topic so far, it seems to me that one of the main worries of an ad campaign on Net54 is a potential sudden influx of a large number of new members. I'm not so sure that this would be the case though. We may see an increase in applications, but how many of those will read the FAQs first? And once it's pointed out what is expected of them before they even reach the application stage, how many will just fall by the wayside? Quite a few, I imagine. I seem to recall several years ago some discussion about a cap on active membership numbers, although I can't remember if an exact number was ever agreed upon and written into "law". If the number and quality of any new members that advertising on Net54 might attract is a worry to some OBCers, perhaps we should once again consider this. The AC could agree an appropriate cap, which could act as a limiter for the immediate future. This would allow us to go down the Net54 path, bring in as much new blood as we feel is appropriate at this time, then reassess the impact after, say, a year. Some allowance would need to be made for inactive members who wish to return, and we might also have to set up a waiting list if demand is high. Remember though that the annual membership poll almost always results in at least afew members leaving the group, so refilling up to the cap limit would likely be relatively easy. The bottom line to all this is that OBC retains full control over the numbers of members in the group until such time as we are happy that those who have joined have been worthwhile, valued additions. It would then be open to future ACs to determine the way forward. There's no doubt that whatever we do, OBC will continue to change. It already has. While I do however believe that the overriding philosophy of the group (WGRCR, RAOKs, etc.) should always be paramount, I think that there is scope for us to put our brand out there to see if we can't attract a few more of the right kind of collectors to join us. I'm sure they're out there! Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:25:43 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Just an FYI if you did not see it on facebook... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Congrats Josh! Well, since you were our youngest member back in the early days, I guess it will just run in the family! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/5/2015 12:58:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: This post is over 3 1/2 years in the making. _Joshua_ (https://www.facebook.com/wite3) and I have been struggling with fertility issues in trying to start our family. After 5 attempts at IUI, 4 rounds of IVF, 2 miscarriages and not to mention the many tests, procedures, and medications along with the physical, emotional, & finacial toll this took..... We are ecstatic to announce baby Levine will arrive in early August. Been quiet the last few months...the above is why... OBC has helped greatly and I thank all my friends (old and new) over the past few years. Several of you knew what we were trying to do and what we were doing and I want to send a big thanks to you all (you know who you are!). The rest of you, helped keep me (and as a byproduct) Tiffany sane during the last four years just by giving me a diversion, sending random cards my way to brighten my day, and being a positive force in my life (and the universe). Thanks so much Joshua and Tiffany (and future OBC member!) ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 06:17:26 -0800 To: "directorth@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: Rick Since I started the little debate I was pretty general in the first email so I'll clarify some. I'm not against expanding/growth I would welcome it but not this way. I look at this as a thief in a parking lot and he is going to break in a car. One car is locked up with nothing visible on the seats and the car next to it is unlocked with a purse on the seat which car does he "break" into? If we make people find us as well as recruit people we seeat shows buying the same things we buy and maybe other ways I think that is good enough and you keep the scammers out. You advertise you are opening the door for all kinds. What happens when you advertise on net54 tomorrow and twenty people apply and you accept five and reject the other fifteen? They would be like what the heck they advertise and say come join us and then they turn us away? Then we get bad mouthed and get negative input about us. Scammers scam people with the least resistance just as robbers usually rob people as there is easy opportunity. My biggest issue here is protectingour addresses you can't tell me that someone who wants to get in can't figure out how to answer the questions the way we want them to answer them toget in yes they have to complete a few trades first also. I don't know thefacts on how the people got accepted over the past five years but I would say it was from someone knew them,meet them, saw them at a show,traded withthem in another group but something personable happened and I'm good with that I think that is the way it should be. I too have felt at times a little stagnate and decided to join another group then six months ago joined net54 point being if you feel that way yourself go find other avenues to fillthat void there may be people who like it the way it is. This was my firstgroup I joined and it will always be my favorite and main focus but if I want more its on me to fill that void. I would love for twenty more people to join today but not in that way. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:00 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Here's my 2.5 cents (inflation, you know). > First, personally I think it's a good idea to get our name & brand out there to those vintage card lovers foolish enough (or unfortunate enough) to have never heard of us. > There's an old saying that goes something like this: "If you don't promote, a terrible thing happens: Nothing". I don't see anything wrong with potentially getting some new eyeballs on our website who were unaware of us. Ifthey apply, well, previous AC's have done a pretty good job in setting up the application, voting & admission process. I'm sure all future AC memberswill be just as careful to make sure that any applicant is worthy. Giving the general membership a chance to chime in on the "comments" section is a great way to get feedback from a potentially larger number of members - although we seem to cap out at less than 10 people who actually comment. > Our new membership applications seemed low in 2014. Opening up new ways to reach potential members can only lead to renewed interest in the group. > As far as the number of OBC members, I think we don't just have "Active" and "Inactive" members. Seems like we have "Inactive", "Active Active", "Somewhat Active" and "Inactive Active" members. While we may hover at around 130 or so "active" members, how many of those are actually really sending/receiving cardboard, participating in group activities/shows, Ramblings discussions, etc? I'd guess maybe half, Anyway, my point is let's try it (the advertising banner on Net54) & see what happens. Like the Dealer Scum group,it's an experiment, and except for volunteers chipping in to kick in a little money to Leon at Net54, it costs us nothing (the best kind of advertising, ever). And if we're going to advertise with a banner, better to do so on Net54; it's our demographic & most likely to interest fellow collectors. If we get a bunch of new members & the AC thinks we're getting too big, discussion of a membership cap can occur. > My kudos to Guru for initiating the process, too! > Tom H. ================= To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:25:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: Tom Housley I understand Rick's concerns (and Rick, thank you for your comments); but Iwould suggest trusting the AC members if & when we get any applications because of the banner ad - and I would ask that, if & when any applications come in, that the general membership take full advantage of the opportunity to post comments regarding potential new members. I think we have a pretty good vetting process, not only among AC members, but with the chance that all members have to give voice to their feelings about potential rookies I'm not super-familiar with the Net54 crowd - I'm a member but rarely go there - but I would hope that there aren't many members who would attempt to scam any of us, either by selling any RAOK (they may get heart palpitationswhen they see the condition of RAOK they receive), or by doing anything shady with the address list. As the New Member Guy, I always send out an e-mail to anyone who applies, explaining how things are, before any votes are cast by the voting AC members. I have had a couple of applicants withdraw their applications once I made the RAOK vs. trading argument, or when I explained the Tipton-esque quality of the cardboard. But I will be extra careful when contacting anyone whocontacts us thanks to the banner ad. I'll make it clear that we have a selective process, and an application does not mean automatic acceptance. That's a good point to make, & Rick, thanks for bringing that up. I hadn't thought of it before but I'm going to revise my e-mail template right after I hit "send" on this. And I'd just like to add that, regardless of anyone's position on this or any other issue, I'm glad to see that members care enough about the group & are invested (pun intended) enough in the quality of our membership to debate things respectfully. Tom Housley -----Original Message----- From: Rick To: directorth Cc: Sent: Thu, Feb 5, 2015 9:17 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft Since I started the little debate I was pretty general in the first email so I'll clarify some. I'm not against expanding/growth I would welcome it but not this way. I look at this as a thief in a parking lot and he is going to break in a car. One car is locked up with nothing visible on the seats and the car next to it is unlocked with a purse on the seat which car does he "break" into? If we make people find us as well as recruit people we seeat shows buying the same things we buy and maybe other ways I think that is good enough and you keep the scammers out. You advertise you are opening the door for all kinds. What happens when you advertise on net54 tomorrow and twenty people apply and you accept five and reject the other fifteen? They would be like what the heck they advertise and say come join us and then they turn us away? Then we get bad mouthed and get negative input about us. Scammers scam people with the least resistance just as robbers usually rob people as there is easy opportunity. My biggest issue here is protectingour addresses you can't tell me that someone who wants to get in can't figure out how to answer the questions the way we want them to answer them toget in yes they have to complete a few trades first also. I don't know thefacts on how the people got accepted over the past five years but I would say it was from someone knew them,meet them, saw them at a show,traded withthem in another group but something personable happened and I'm good with that I think that is the way it should be. I too have felt at times a little stagnate and decided to join another group then six months ago joined net54 point being if you feel that way yourself go find other avenues to fillthat void there may be people who like it the way it is. This was my firstgroup I joined and it will always be my favorite and main focus but if I want more its on me to fill that void. I would love for twenty more people to join today but not in that way. Rick Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2015, at 2:00 PM, directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Here's my 2.5 cents (inflation, you know). First, personally I think it's a good idea to get our name & brand out there to those vintage card lovers foolish enough (or unfortunate enough) to have never heard of us. There's an old saying that goes something like this: "If you don't promote,a terrible thing happens: Nothing". I don't see anything wrong with potentially getting some new eyeballs on our website who were unaware of us. If they apply, well, previous AC's have done a pretty good job in setting up the application, voting & admission process. I'm sure all future AC members will be just as careful to make sure that any applicant is worthy. Giving the general membership a chance to chime in on the "comments" section is a great way to get feedback from a potentially larger number of members - although we seem to cap out at less than 10 people who actually comment. Our new membership applications seemed low in 2014. Opening up new ways to reach potential members can only lead to renewed interest in the group. As far as the number of OBC members, I think we don't just have "Active" and "Inactive" members. Seems like we have "Inactive", "Active Active", "Somewhat Active" and "Inactive Active" members. While we may hover at around 130 or so "active" members, how many of those are actually really sending/receiving cardboard, participating in group activities/shows, Ramblings discussions, etc? I'd guess maybe half, Anyway, my point is let's try it (the advertising banner on Net54) & see what happens. Like the Dealer Scum group, it's an experiment, and except for volunteers chipping in to kick in a little money to Leon at Net54, it costs us nothing (the best kind of advertising, ever). And if we're going to advertise with a banner, better to do so on Net54; it's our demographic & most likely to interest fellow collectors. Ifwe get a bunch of new members & the AC thinks we're getting too big, discussion of a membership cap can occur. My kudos to Guru for initiating the process, too! Tom H. ================= Date: 05 Feb 2015 09:26:15 -0800 To: Subject: Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 05 Feb 2015 09:33:26 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:37:58 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gord Ellis From: Larry Tipton I have been told that Gord Ellis is away from his home until April. As a member of the OBCAC, we were contacted by a NON-OBC member in regards to a trade this person had with Gord. Does anyone have a cell phone number, an address, or any way to get ahold of Gord? Larry Tipton ================= Date: 05 Feb 2015 09:39:20 -0800 To: Subject: eBay question From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:53:34 -0500 To: "uthminsta@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: BBC Trading Wait, I'm the youngest active member!? I had no idea you guys were all geezers! Someone brought up the possibility of OBC getting a bad rep if we end up getting a bunch of new applicants and then have to deny a bunch of those. I think that's a valid concern. However, I also think that our application process will weed out a bunch of people too. I will admit that the first time I found out about OBC I really wanted to join but the application process seemed too intimidating to me. It wasn't until years later when I was introduced to my mentor, Jason Christopherson, that I decided to make a go of it and try to join. And I'm extremely glad that I did because you guys are thebest part of this wonderful hobby in my opinion. I think we will get more hits to our website with the banner ads and will get a few new applicants but I don't think we will be flooded with them. Only those collectors who really think like us and belong in our group. Just my two cents. Andy Huntoon OBC Rules!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:26 PM, "uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > The more I read, the more surprised I am that I ever made the cut! > I have a different concern. We're getting old. > I know I haven't been active all of my 9+ years here. So my opinion may not carry much weight. But my desire is for us to plan intentionally for thelong-term viability of this group. The data in the address directory currently shows the birthdates of 54 of our members. I joined when I was 30, andwas understandably one of the youngest three or four members. And now I'm40, and... as far as I can tell, I'm still the third youngest member of this group. Behind Andy Huntoon and Rob Gioia (who is inactive). Anyone else under > As is true for any organization, we are never more than a generation awayfrom extinction. What we have is worth carrying on past ourselves. So, forOBC, the painful question is: how can we find and recruit the next generation of people who will learn and share and carry on our philosophies, like "well-loved is lovely" and "tis better to give than to receive" and such... > I see the net54 banner was already voted on and approved by the AC, and Iappreciate their forward thinking and diligent work. I would say at *LEAST* put a banner at net54. More, if we can. Now... I think this discussion needs to continue, into the "what else should we do" phase. > It's a wonderful group. It's worth protecting, but it's also worth sharing. > Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:00:47 -0500 To: BBC Trading Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: Jimi Thayer Ha! No, there are a few more young ones in the group! :) Some other under 40 guys: ME!!! :) I'm 36, and soon to be 37. Wes Shepard....maybe the youngest in the group? 1981? Ed Hutchinson....younger than me... Rob Bessette (at least I think he is) Maybe more? The 4 of us all joined fairly recently, so that's a good sign.:) Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:53 PM, BBC Trading cobbspikedmetrades@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Wait, I'm the youngest active member!? I had no idea you guys were all geezers! > Someone brought up the possibility of OBC getting a bad rep if we end up getting a bunch of new applicants and then have to deny a bunch of those. Ithink that's a valid concern. However, I also think that our application process will weed out a bunch of people too. I will admit that the first time I found out about OBC I really wanted to join but the application processseemed too intimidating to me. It wasn't until years later when I was introduced to my mentor, Jason Christopherson, that I decided to make a go of it and try to join. And I'm extremely glad that I did because you guys are the best part of this wonderful hobby in my opinion. I think we will get more hits to our website with the banner ads and will get a few new applicantsbut I don't think we will be flooded with them. Only those collectors who really think like us and belong in our group. Just my two cents. > Andy Huntoon > OBC Rules!!! > Sent from my iPhone >> On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:26 PM, "uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> The more I read, the more surprised I am that I ever made the cut! >> I have a different concern. We're getting old. >> I know I haven't been active all of my 9+ years here. So my opinion may not carry much weight. But my desire is for us to plan intentionally for the long-term viability of this group. The data in the address directory currently shows the birthdates of 54 of our members. I joined when I was 30, and was understandably one of the youngest three or four members. And now I'm 40, and... as far as I can tell, I'm still the third youngest member of this group. Behind Andy Huntoon and Rob Gioia (who is inactive). Anyone elseunder >> As is true for any organization, we are never more than a generation away from extinction. What we have is worth carrying on past ourselves. So, for OBC, the painful question is: how can we find and recruit the next generation of people who will learn and share and carry on our philosophies, like"well-loved is lovely" and "tis better to give than to receive" and such... >> I see the net54 banner was already voted on and approved by the AC, and I appreciate their forward thinking and diligent work. I would say at *LEAST* put a banner at net54. More, if we can. Now... I think this discussion needs to continue, into the "what else should we do" phase. >> It's a wonderful group. It's worth protecting, but it's also worth sharing. >> Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 14:12:56 -0500 To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: OBC Expansion Draft From: Shawn Smart ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:32:07 -0500 Subject: new address From: Shawn Smart Hi all - I have updated my address. i have moved but I also decided to get a PO Box by my job, since I tend to do most of my Want List updating on the weekends at work (dont tell the boss!) 339 Hicksville Road #972Bethpage NY 11714 No worries if you sent something recently to the old address - I will stillhave access there for some time. Thanks all! Shawn Smart=09=09=09=09=09 ================= To: Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:54:38 -0500 Subject: OBCAC nominees From: "Mark Holland" I may have picked a bad time to send out the OBCAC nominee memo last Sunday. I got on the computer at half time to get the email out on Feb. 1st as directed in the OBC bylaws. Little did I know "the call" would fill the OBC email servers for the next few days (still think it was an awful play call). So far I have received NO nominations since Sunday's email. I do have nominations from George Vrechek & Mike Rich from last week so you guys are good and nominees confirmed. In case you missed it, here is the instant replay (read it in slow motion and make the call). Please submit nominees ASAP. It is time to submit your nomination for the 2015 OBC-AC members and facilitator. Nominations will be accepted through Feb.15th. Send me an email with one nomination for Facilitator, multiple nominees allowed for AC members. The same person can be nominated for both positions. Each nominee must concur before being added to the ballot. It works best if you CC your nominee on your email to me. Then the nominee should send a confirmation email stating that they are willing to serve if elected. To be eligible a member needs to have been in OBC for 3 years (as of Feb.15) and you cannot nominate yourself. To recap the process, confirmed nominations to me prior to midnight Feb 15 ... Election Feb 16 - Feb 28. Results published March 1. Several have already submitted nominations, no need to resubmit. Feel free to send questions regarding the process. Mark Holland ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 20:29:06 -0500 Subject: I'll try not to make this a diatribe... From: Taylor Schock PLEASE consider updating your entries on for the "Who collects what sets" section of the OBC site. I had a decent (though not mega) hit that I wanted to send out as a surprise RAOK, but when I went to use that section to see who might need it, I found close to 60% of the collectors listed for collecting that year did NOT even have a list for that year. Another interesting tidbit was finding some lists not updated in months and in at least one case, not updated in over ayear. Oh, and these are all "active" members. Maybe it's back to offering them up on a FCFS basis. ================= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:33:11 -0500 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I'll try not to make this a diatribe... From: Jimi Thayer Good call, brother! I'll update mine tonight! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 5, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > PLEASE consider updating your entries on for the "Who collects what sets"section of the OBC site. > I had a decent (though not mega) hit that I wanted to send out as a surprise RAOK, but when I went to use that section to see who might need it, I found close to 60% of the collectors listed for collecting that year did NOTeven have a list for that year. Another interesting tidbit was finding some lists not updated in months and in at least one case, not updated in overa year. Oh, and these are all "active" members. > Maybe it's back to offering them up on a FCFS basis. > Regards, > Taylor ================= Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 16:56:31 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: T205 reprints From: Geno Wagner Fellas -- I found this frame awhile back, and was trying to figure out a way to get my T205s in it without messing up the backs with mounts. It turned outto be rather pointless, as the design of the mat made it almost impossibleto keep the cards from slipping. That's when I had the idea to use reprints that I could tape to the mat. It turned out pretty cool for my baseball wall, so I thought I'd share. I put the lineups of the top4 teams of the era (Cubs, Giants, Tigers, and Athletics), then a row of HOFers off other teams. Anybody else got some display ideas to share? Take Care,Geno ================= Date: 07 Feb 2015 04:45:41 -0800 To: Subject: Hofstra (long Island) Card Show Tomorrow From: bskp1@aol.com ================= To: "bskp1@aol.com" , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 08:53:19 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra (long Island) Card Show Tomorrow From: Shawn Smart Chuck - I sadly cant make it but if you dont mind let me know how it is. They have a few others scheduled for early this year that maybe I can go to. Enjoy! I see that Dwight Gooden is signing.... Sunday, March 29th, 201510:00am =96 4:00 pmSunday, May 24th, 2015 10:00am =96 4:00 pm Plainview Holiday Inn =96 215 Sunnyside Boulevard Plainview, NY 11803 Sunday, February 15th, 2015 10:00am =96 4:00 pm To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 04:45:41 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra (long Island) Card Show Tomorrow I'm thinking about going to this tomorrow. It's one day only, 10AM to 4PM. Admission is $2, and parking is free. Anyone else going? BR, ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 07:18:59 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Philly Show in March From: Brian Betza Anyone going? Any OBC dealers typically attend? Worth the effort to go? Brian Betza ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 10:58:10 -0500 To: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra (long Island) Card Show Tomorrow From: "Samuel E. Taylor" I'm not going to the show (live in Ohio and all...) but I am looking to complete a 1989 Topps autographed set, and need a Dwight Gooden auto on a 1989 Topps #661 (the "Turn Back the Clock" card). I'd be happy to pay for your admission and the auto/card plus return fire, if you could snag me one. I have multiples of that card, but won't be able to mail it to you in time. No worries if you can't, but that set hasn't been hit in a LONG time, and I don't go to many autograph shows. Sam Taylor 9615 Simsbury Ct. Twinsburg, OH On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Chuck - I sadly cant make it but if you dont mind let me know how it is. > They have a few others scheduled for early this year that maybe I can go > to. Enjoy! I see that Dwight Gooden is signing.... > *Sunday, March 29th, 2015**10:00am - 4:00 pm**Sunday, May 24th, 2015* *10:00am > - 4:00 pm* > *Plainview Holiday Inn -**215 Sunnyside Boulevard Plainview, NY 11803* > * Sunday, February 15th, 2015* > * 10:00am - 4:00 pm* > ------------------------------ > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 04:45:41 -0800 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hofstra (long Island) Card Show Tomorrow > I'm thinking about going to this tomorrow. It's one day only, 10AM to 4PM. > Admission is $2, and parking is free. Anyone else going? BR, > Chuck Sam Taylor ================= To: =?utf-8?B?b2JjLXJhbWJsaW5nc0B5YWhvb2dyb3Vwcy5jb20=?= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 17:04:06 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show in March From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= To: Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:25:18 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show in March From: "Matt Yudt" Since I live 20 minutes away, it is def worth the effort :-) But yes, to echo Ken, it is good, but probably not what it was years ago in Fort Washington, but still lots of dealers and plenty to look through. Uncle Dick is always there as are a few other OBC dealers. I need to get up to speed on our preferred dealers that attend, cuz I'm missing out, but I know Savage always has a table and I'm sure a few others on our list. I've been helping an old school teacher do the show the past couple years - I get a badge and old beat up baseball cards and he gets me to unload and load his van before and after. Good deal! But he just had back surgery and isn't doing the show this March - so not sure if I'm getting a badge - but I will def attend! Also, the hotel above the convention center is now a casino too - so even more things to waste your money on - or maybe try to win more money to buy cards with?? Let me know when you are coming in for it - goes for other OBCers too. Would love to meet up From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'cardclctor@aol.com' cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 12:04 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show in March I haven't attended a Philly show in a long time, but the show is probably one of the better shows of the year that's not The National... if it's still the same, which I think it is. Certainly worth the effort, especially if you can find inexpensive lodging. I've only been one time since they moved out of the old expo center and into the Valley Forge location. It seemed a little more cramped from what I remember, but I stayed in the hotel a couple floors above the show. I'm pretty sure it was Sept. 2009, because we took my three-month old to Hooters down the road to celebrate my birthday. He was a big hit there :-) Ken M Sent from my not so smart phone ------ Original message------ From: Brian Betza b_betza@yahoo.co... Date: Sat, 2/7/2015 10:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show in March Anyone going? Any OBC dealers typically attend? Worth the effort to go? Brian Betza Posted by: Brian Betza Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= To: "'Brian Betza'" , Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:28:59 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show in March From: "Matt Yudt" Dammit! I just looked up the dates for the show and the conference I am attending that was moved from June to March this year - and yup - it conflicts. Unfortunately I will NOT be attending the March Philly Show. Next one isn't until Sept either. Instead I will be in San Diego the first week of March, so not a bad consolation prize I guess. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Betza b_betza@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 10:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Philly Show in March Anyone going? Any OBC dealers typically attend? Worth the effort to go? Brian Betza ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 18:10:40 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 1975 Topps Second Set added From: Jim Thayer Hey guys, I had a decent stack of '75T cards including the Yount RC and one of the Aarons already, so I decided to add another set. This is my favorite '70s set, an would love to get a move on it!! Your help is appreciated! 1975 Topps (Set #2)401 more to go out of 660 39.2% completeJUST ADDED: 2/7/2015!2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 35, 37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 47, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58, 65, 66, 67, 68, 71, 74, 75, 80, 81, 82, 85, 87, 88, 90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 97,102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 110, 111, 114, 118, 120, 121, 122, 123,124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 130, 132, 133, 134, 136, 139, 140, 141, 142, 144,146, 147, 150, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 163, 164, 165,167, 168, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184,185, 187, 188, 190, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203,205, 206, 207, 208, 210, 212, 213, 215, 217, 220, 221, 222, 224, 225, 227,228, 229, 232, 233, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 246,247, 248, 250, 255, 256, 259, 260, 261, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269,270, 272, 274, 277, 279, 280, 281, 283, 284, 285, 286, 289, 291, 292, 293,295, 296, 301, 302, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 311, 312, 314, 320, 322,323, 324, 325, 328, 331, 332, 335, 338, 339, 340, 342, 343, 344, 345, 348,349, 351, 352, 354, 355, 357, 358, 359, 365, 366, 369, 370, 371, 374, 377,378, 379, 382, 383, 384, 385, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 397, 398, 401,402, 405, 407, 409, 411, 412, 413, 415, 416, 417, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423,425, 426, 434, 439, 441, 444, 445, 446, 448, 451, 454, 457, 458, 461, 462,463, 464, 465, 466, 469, 472, 473, 474, 476, 477, 479, 480, 481, 483, 484,488, 490, 491, 495, 497, 498, 499, 500, 502, 503, 504, 507, 509, 510, 511,512, 514, 515, 517, 518, 519, 520, 523, 524, 527, 528, 529, 530, 532, 533,535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 543, 546, 547, 548, 550, 551, 555, 559,560, 561, 562, 563, 566, 568, 569, 571, 573, 575, 577, 579, 581, 582, 583,584, 585, 588, 589, 590, 592, 594, 595, 597, 600, 601, 602, 603, 605, 609,610, 611, 613, 614, 615, 616, 617, 618, 621, 623, 626, 629, 630, 631, 632,633, 635, 636, 640, 642, 643, 645, 646, 647, 651, 653, 654, 655, 656, 658,660 ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 10:12:57 -0800 To: "Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 1975 Topps Second Set added From: Rick 75 minis my favorite 70's set Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > Hey guys, > I had a decent stack of '75T cards including the Yount RC and one of the Aa > rons already, so I decided to add another set. C2A0This is my favorite > 0s set, an would love to get a move on it!! C2A0Your help is appreciated! > 1975 Topps (Set #2)401 more to go out of 660 3D 39.2% completeJUST ADDED: > 2/7/2015!2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13 ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 13:20:39 -0500 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 1975 Topps Second Set added From: Jimi Thayer Great set as well! In fact, I'm almost done with that one, too, but it hasn't been hit in a long time! ;) Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > 75 minis my favorite 70's set > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 7, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > > > > Hey guys, > > I had a decent stack of '75T cards including the Yount RC and one of the > > rons already, so I decided to add another set. C2A0This is my favorite > > 0s set, an would love to get a move on it!! C2A0Your help is appreciated! > > 1975 Topps (Set #2)401 more to go out of 660 3D 39.2% completeJUST ADDED: > > 2/7/2015!2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13 ================= Date: 07 Feb 2015 10:34:55 -0800 To: Subject: Re: 1975 Topps Second Set added From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 13:43:17 -0500 To: Jim Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 1975 Topps Second Set added From: Rob Bessette These are coming at you... 611, 384, 236, 208, 198, 196, 172, 153 Good luck with the set! > On Feb 7, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > Hey guys, > I had a decent stack of '75T cards including the Yount RC and one of the Aarons already, so I decided to add another set. This is my favorite '70s set, an would love to get a move on it!! Your help is appreciated! > 1975 Topps (Set #2) > 401 more to go out of 660 39.2% complete > JUST ADDED: 2/7/2015! > 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 35, 37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 47, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58, 65, 66,67, 68, 71, 74, 75, 80, 81, 82, 85, 87, 88, 90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 97, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 110, 111, 114, 118, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 130, 132, 133, 134, 136, 139, 140, 141, 142, 144, 146, 147, 150, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 163, 164, 165, 167, 168, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 187, 188, 190, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 205, 206, 207, 208, 210, 212, 213, 215, 217, 220, 221, 222, 224, 225, 227, 228, 229, 232, 233, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 246, 247, 248, 250, 255, 256, 259, 260, 261, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 272, 274, 277, 279, 280, 281, 283, 284, 285, 286, 289, 291, 292, 293, 295, 296, 301, 302, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 311, 312, 314, 320, 322, 323, 324, 325, 328, 331, 332, 335, 338, 339, 340, 342, 343, 344, 345, 348, 349, 351, 352, 354, 355, 357, 358, 359, 365, 366, 369, 370, 371, 374, 377, 378, 379, 382, 383, 384, 385, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 397, 398, 401, 402, 405, 407, 409, 411, 412, 413, 415, 416, 417, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 425, 426, 434, 439, 441, 444, 445, 446, 448, 451, 454, 457, 458, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 469, 472, 473, 474, 476, 477, 479, 480, 481, 483, 484, 488, 490, 491, 495, 497, 498, 499, 500, 502, 503, 504, 507, 509, 510, 511, 512, 514, 515, 517, 518, 519, 520, 523, 524, 527, 528, 529, 530, 532, 533, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 543, 546, 547, 548, 550, 551, 555, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, 566, 568, 569, 571, 573, 575, 577, 579, 581, 582, 583, 584, 585, 588, 589, 590, 592, 594, 595, 597, 600, 601, 602, 603, 605, 609, 610, 611, 613, 614, 615, 616, 617, 618, 621, 623, 626, 629, 630, 631, 632, 633, 635, 636, 640, 642, 643, 645, 646, 647, 651, 653, 654, 655, 656, 658, 660 > Jimi ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:47:38 -0500 To: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 1975 Topps Second Set added From: Anthony Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Rob Bessette robsbessette@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > Jimi > These are coming at you... > 611, 384, 236, 208, 198, 196, 172, 153 > Good luck with the set! > Rob >> On Feb 7, 2015, at 1:10 PM, Jim Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: >> Hey guys, >> I had a decent stack of '75T cards including the Yount RC and one of theAarons already, so I decided to add another set. This is my favorite '70sset, an would love to get a move on it!! Your help is appreciated! >> 1975 Topps (Set #2) >> 401 more to go out of 660 39.2% complete >> JUST ADDED: 2/7/2015! >> 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29,30, 33, 35, 37, 41, 42, 44, 46, 47, 48, 49, 52, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58, 65, 66, 67, 68, 71, 74, 75, 80, 81, 82, 85, 87, 88, 90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 97, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 110, 111, 114, 118, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 130, 132, 133, 134, 136, 139, 140, 141, 142, 144, 146, 147, 150, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 163, 164, 165, 167, 168, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 187, 188, 190, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 205, 206, 207, 208, 210, 212, 213, 215, 217, 220, 221, 222, 224, 225, 227, 228, 229, 232, 233, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 246, 247, 248, 250, 255, 256, 259, 260, 261, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 272, 274, 277, 279, 280, 281, 283, 284, 285, 286, 289, 291, 292, 293, 295, 296, 301, 302, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 311, 312, 314, 320, 322, 323, 324, 325, 328, 331, 332, 335, 338, 339, 340, 342, 343, 344, 345, 348, 349, 351, 352, 354, 355, 357, 358, 359, 365, 366, 369, 370, 371, 374, 377, 378, 379, 382, 383, 384, 385, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 397, 398, 401, 402, 405, 407, 409, 411, 412, 413, 415, 416, 417, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 425, 426, 434, 439, 441, 444, 445, 446, 448, 451, 454, 457, 458, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 469, 472, 473, 474, 476, 477, 479, 480, 481, 483, 484, 488, 490, 491, 495, 497, 498, 499, 500, 502, 503, 504, 507, 509, 510, 511, 512, 514, 515, 517, 518, 519, 520, 523, 524, 527, 528, 529, 530, 532, 533, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 543, 546, 547, 548, 550, 551, 555, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, 566, 568, 569, 571, 573, 575, 577, 579, 581, 582, 583, 584, 585, 588, 589, 590, 592, 594, 595, 597, 600, 601, 602, 603, 605, 609, 610, 611, 613, 614, 615, 616, 617, 618, 621, 623, 626, 629, 630, 631, 632, 633, 635, 636, 640, 642, 643, 645, 646, 647, 651, 653, 654, 655, 656, 658, 660 >> Jimi ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 15:02:14 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waivers From: Anthony Picked some up at the show last week 1974 topps #608 rookie Apodaca 1975 topps#15,34,40,79,96,298,317 1971 #95,183,500,502,625 brock 1972#132 Morgan,200 brock,250 Powell,500,520 1973#66,160 Palmer,165,,170 killibrew, 180,230 Morgan,338,370,453,486,517 1979 comic Brett 1970 scratch off red back detached-bosman,spencer,osteen,mccaver,Stargell,Powell,jones 1966 #216 1968 or 70 fleer World Series blue back#23,40 1968#192 Taylor,88 jurgenson 1978 fleer#15,24,31,32,33,35,37,50,53 1973 or 1974 topps basketball scratch offs (red front) unsracthed Let me know Anthony arbeeny Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 07 Feb 2015 12:56:43 -0800 To: Subject: Some older waivers From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:00:15 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: Waivers revised#1 From: Anthony Had seven responses already and below is the new list Sent from my iPad > On Feb 7, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Anthony wrote: > Hello > Picked some up at the show last week > 1975 topps#15,34,40,79,96,298,317,383,435,443,492,505,535 > 1976#564 > 1971 #580 perez,620 > 1972#132 Morgan,200 brock,250 Powell,520 > 1973#66,160 Palmer,165,,170 killibrew, 180,230 Morgan,338,370,517 > 1970 scratch off red back detached-bosman,osteen,mccaver,Powell > 1966 #216 > 1967#334,240,449 > Football > 1968#192 Taylor,88 jurgenson > 1978 fleer#15,24,31,32,33,35,37,50,53 > Basketball > 1973 or 1974 topps basketball scratch offs (red front) unsracthed > Let me know > Ant > Anthony arbeeny > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 18:20:43 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver Wire From: Larry Tipton 1960 Topps baseball #160 "RIVAL ALL STARS" (Mantle & Boyer) 1967 Topps baseball #103 checklist (Mantle pictured) 1967 Topps baseball #103 checklist (Mantle pictured) 1967 Topps baseball #200 Willie Mays 1969 Topps baseball #412 checklist (Mantle pictured) 1972 Topps baseball #595 Nolan Ryan (lower right corner and 1/4 of right edge torn off) ================= Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 20:21:27 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver Wire Update From: Larry Tipton *Not eligible if you already staked a claim* 1967 Topps baseball #103 checklist (Mantle pictured) 1967 Topps baseball #103 checklist (Mantle pictured) 1935 Goudey 4 in 1 baseball (Stl Browns pictured) West in upper left corner(via Anthony Arbeeny) 1960 Topps baseball #561 Al Kaline All Star 1960 Topps baseball #565 Roger Maris All Star 1960 Topps baseball #570 Don Drysdale All Star 1964 Topps coin #80 Willie Mays 1965 Topps baseball SP #560 Boog Powell 1965 Topps baseball SP #577 AL All-Stars 1977 Topps (non-sport) "Autos of 1977" starter set. Eleven of 99 cards and three of 20 stickers and a wrapper. ================= Date: 07 Feb 2015 18:06:55 -0800 To: Subject: Basketball Waiver From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 02:17:32 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Expansion Draft From: ChicoD1@aol.com Is the banner up yet? I haven't seen it on the Net 54 site... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 05:08:24 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: waiver wire final update From: Larry Tipton All cards are claimed but these: 1967 Topps baseball #103 checklist (Mantle pictured) 1967 Topps baseball #103 checklist (Mantle pictured) ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 06:27:43 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Net54 Advertising "chip-in" campaign From: Larry Tipton I have six members who wish to donate $5 for the cost of the banner add. Last chance to participate if you wish. And if you said you would participatesend the $$$ lol one member said a check is on the way, one member sent paypal, one member is me:) Please email me before sending any money as I wantto cut it off if we reach $75. Right now we are at $30 and that's fine too:) Participation in 100% optional. I will contact Leon later in the week about where to send payment and whereto send the banner add. I've enjoyed reading the discussion pro and con. All applications will go through the normal process! Once the banner add is up I will post a message on the =93Post-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=94 as this is more our target audience than the main message area. I will make sure those who read the message post will understand "RAOK" and "WGACA" philosophy of OBC! I will ensure that potential applicants know the quality of cards (or lack thereof) they might expect! Also once the banner add is up, and my message is posted on the =93Post-WarBaseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=94 thread I hope some of our members can comment so the thread stays on page 1 and please post pictures of some OBC beauties! In order to generate some new member applications, I contacted the owner ofthe Net54baseball.com website Leon, and asked him if it would be OK to post a message on the board about OBC. I know Leon is a fan of OBC, several ofus visited with him at this past years National Convention in Cleveland. After the National Leon posted a very nice message about OBC too. Leon not only said it was OK for me to post a message (most boards probablywouldn=92t allow this as it directs people away from their website), but Leon also offered us the chance to advertise using one of the banner adds that appear on Net54. Leon said he would let us run a medium size banner add for thirty days for whatever OBC could afford to pay, even free if we had no OBC does not have any money set aside for advertising, and according to ourrules, the dues money we have in the bank can only be used to maintain ourwebsite and our domain name. I think (and so do some other OBCAC members) we should pay Leon something for running the banner add for thirty days, soI am running a =93chip-in=94 campaign to try and raise around $50-$75 (which would still be a nice discount from the normal rate charged). I am asking anyone who wants to participate to donate $5 and I will stop the chip in campaign if we reach $75. Participation in 100% optional. Tom Housley has developed our banner add and it=92s ready to go. The bannerwill run on a rotating basis on all pages except the main page, and (hopefully) link to the OBC homepage. Once the add is up, I will post a message on the =93Post-War Baseball Card Forum (pre-1980)=94. Then, for the next 30 days, I hope to see some OBC members respond to the original post to keep it near the top of that area:) Maybe post a few pictures of some OBC beauties:) Participation in 100% optional. Please contact me via email before sending me $5 if you want to participate. If the total reaches $75 I will terminate the =93chip-in=94. If we don=92t reach $75, I will pay Leon the amount that is raised. Larry Tipton ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 07:50:25 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Rittenberg travel plans From: Steve Rittenberg My wife and I will be in Las Vegas February 13 - 16 I will be in Northern Virginia February 17 - 20 I will be in Colorado Springs March 3 - 5 Please let me know if you would like to meet. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 17:12:46 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 54 Red Hearts + refurbs of 71 and 72 From: ChicoD1@aol.com What do you guys think of this set? Saw it recently and its a short set with some nice cards in it. I like the pictures and thought the backs on there were great. How hard is it to put together? I'm sort of thinking about it. On a different note... I saw some "newer" cards that are minis of the 71 and 72 Topps sets. Thought they looked pretty cool..Same thing here, is it tough to put together, how many cards in the set and what years were these Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 14:52:45 -0800 To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 54 Red Hearts + refurbs of 71 and 72 From: Rick I have been working on it lately they seem to be popular even low grade commons seem to go for close to $10 each. Don't come up much on eBay and bidding is active. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 8, 2015, at 2:28 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sal: > The Red Hearts are a nice diversion set--small with enough HOFers to makeit tough and a bit pricey. The Duke, Musial, Mantle, Warren Spahn, Red, Country, and a few others. The red fronts are supposedly tougher to find than the green or blue. > I finished the set years ago--so I have no idea as to today's prices. I do know there aren't any SPs like Cooper and Smith in the Dan Dee set. > I have a few of the newer minis--but don't know what year I got them. > Happy hunting, > peter mead > On 02/08/15, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > What do you guys think of this set? Saw it recently and its a short set with some nice cards in it. I like the pictures and thought the backs on there were great. How hard is it to put together? I'm sort of thinking about it. > On a different note... I saw some "newer" cards that are minis of the 71 and 72 Topps sets. Thought they looked pretty cool..Same thing here, is it tough to put together, how many cards in the set and what years were these done? > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 23:36:11 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Waiver wire for some variations. From: Picked up a few variations recently, and have some of them. So, here they go, first come... 1963 Rookies #54 with Dave Debusschere--this is the one that says 1962 Rookie Stars on the front and back 1969 Don Clendenon as an Expo, card #208 1969 Paul Popovich with some of the C on his cap showing #42 1969 #49, E. Rodriquez with the "Q" on the front And, though technically not a variation, 1960 hi number #569, Camilo Pascaul. This one looks like a reject from the great sewer find. Usual rules, I'll try to spread them out, and please include mailing address in reply to save my lazy bones from looking it up! ================= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 20:04:38 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Net54 "chip-in" CLOSED From: Larry Tipton Thanks OBC as fifteen members "chip-in" $5 to reach the $75 target. I will contact Leon and proceed with the banner add and also the message board post. Stand BY! ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 21:32:02 -0500 Subject: I think I'll boycot January 2016 From: Bob Reed Most of you remember that in January 2014, my son Connor developed a rare auto immune disease call Acute Disseminate Encephalomyelitis. A disease that caused lesions on his brain and spinal cord that left him completely paralyzed for a while and in ICU for over a month. I am very pleased to reportthat he is about 90% fully recovered physically and 100% recovered mentally. He is currently completing his second semester at UConn. Fast forward to January 26, 2015. Our family had what I'm sure many of us in OBC fear.....a house fire which appears to have started on or behind thestove in a second kitchen in our home. We are very fortunate that everybody (and the pets) got out safely and the fire was pretty much contained to just one room. However four other rooms and two bathrooms received heavy smoke damage include a closed that holds most of my cards. I haven't had a chance to go through the cards to see exactly how much smoke damage occurred but I may have to apply OBC's "how to remove moof" secrets. I did have some cards in the room that was most damaged by the fire. Fortunately the cards were in a cabinets near the ground and the fire mostly just burned the top half of the room. I have not been able to check a monsterbox that contained a bunch of 1990 Donruss "junk" but I did find a small box of Kellogg dupes. The box suffered some heat and water damage but the cards are still ok, just a little more "curled" than normal. Knowing how OBC works let me say that we are fine and our insurance company(and the community) have helped us more than we need so no RAOK or Stan Hack packages are necessary. We have been staying at Hometown Suites for thelast 2 weeks and on Wednesday we will be moving into a rental house for approximately 6 months until the damage to our house can be repaired. I haveattached a before picture when I remodeled the room in 2009 and an after photo from the same angle right after the fire. Lessons learned, a) make sure there are enough WORKING smoke detectors in your home, and b) make sure to have your homeowners insurance phone number programmed into your cell phone so you don't have to spend about 5 hours trying to get a hold of them. Hopefully I will be able to get access to my cards this week and send out some stuff to the Super Bowl winners. -Bob Reed=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 00:51:16 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I think I'll boycot January 2016 [1 Attachment] From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Holy Hell Bob... glad to hear you are all ok. Cards can always be Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/8/2015 9:32:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://0e716120/default.html#TopText) from Bob Reed included below] Most of you remember that in January 2014, my son Connor developed a rare auto immune disease call Acute Disseminate Encephalomyelitis. A disease that caused lesions on his brain and spinal cord that left him completely paralyzed for a while and in ICU for over a month. I am very pleased to report that he is about 90% fully recovered physically and 100% recovered mentally. He is currently completing his second semester at UConn. Fast forward to January 26, 2015. Our family had what I'm sure many of us in OBC fear.....a house fire which appears to have started on or behind the stove in a second kitchen in our home. We are very fortunate that everybody (and the pets) got out safely and the fire was pretty much contained to just one room. However four other rooms and two bathrooms received heavy smoke damage include a closed that holds m ost of my cards. I haven't had a chance to go through the cards to see exactly how much smoke damage occurred but I may have to apply OBC's "how to remove moof" secrets. I did have some cards in the room that was most damaged by the fire. Fortunately the cards were in a cabinets near the ground and the fire mostly just burned the top half of the room. I have not been able to check a monster box that contained a bunch of 1990 Donruss "junk" but I did find a small box of Kellogg dupes. The box suffered some heat and water damage but the cards are still ok, just a little more "curled" than normal. Knowing how OBC works let me say that we are fine and our insurance company (and the community) have helped us more than we need so no RAOK or Stan Hack packages are necessary. We have been staying at Hometown Suites for the last 2 weeks and on Wednesday we will be moving into a rental house for app roximately 6 months until the damage to our house can be repaired. I have attached a before picture when I remodeled the room in 2009 and an after photo from the same angle right after the fire. Lessons learned, a) make sure there are enough WORKING smoke detectors in your home, and b) make sure to have your homeowners insurance phone number programmed into your cell phone so you don't have to spend about 5 hours trying to get a hold of them. Hopefully I will be able to get access to my cards this week and send out some stuff to the Super Bowl winners. -Bob Reed ================= To: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 08:11:55 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCAC nominees From: "Mark Holland" We are entering the second week of the OBCAC nomination process. Only 3 people have submitted nominations. Am I reaching everyone on the rambling As a remember, all nominations and confirmations have to be completed by midnight next Sunday so that we can transition into the election process. Please take the time to send me your nominations. As of now, we don't have enough nominees to fill the committee. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Mark Holland' mholland28412@ec.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 6:55 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCAC nominees I may have picked a bad time to send out the OBCAC nominee memo last Sunday. I got on the computer at half time to get the email out on Feb. 1st as directed in the OBC bylaws. Little did I know "the call" would fill the OBC email servers for the next few days (still think it was an awful play call). So far I have received NO nominations since Sunday's email. I do have nominations from George Vrechek & Mike Rich from last week so you guys are good and nominees confirmed. In case you missed it, here is the instant replay (read it in slow motion and make the call). Please submit nominees ASAP. It is time to submit your nomination for the 2015 OBC-AC members and facilitator. Nominations will be accepted through Feb.15th. Send me an email with one nomination for Facilitator, multiple nominees allowed for AC members. The same person can be nominated for both positions. Each nominee must concur before being added to the ballot. It works best if you CC your nominee on your email to me. Then the nominee should send a confirmation email stating that they are willing to serve if elected. To be eligible a member needs to have been in OBC for 3 years (as of Feb.15) and you cannot nominate yourself. To recap the process, confirmed nominations to me prior to midnight Feb 15 ... Election Feb 16 - Feb 28. Results published March 1. Several have already submitted nominations, no need to resubmit. Feel free to send questions regarding the process. Mark Holland ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 05:46:27 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 52 bowmans on net54 for .01 From: Rick Guy wants one cent plus $1 shipping for 4 trimmed cards Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 06:39:14 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: OBC AC Nomination From: Glenn Codere I'd like to nominate Bob Donaldson for election to the AC. I've confirmed with Bob that he would accept a nomination. Would someone care to second? Glasgow, Scotland ================= To: "'Glenn Codere'" , Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 06:46:02 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC AC Nomination From: "Grant Rainsley" From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February-09-15 6:39 AM To: OBC Ramblings; mark holland Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC AC Nomination I'd like to nominate Bob Donaldson for election to the AC. I've confirmed with Bob that he would accept a nomination. Would someone care to second? Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:11:10 -0600 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC AC Nomination From: MarkZ Sent from mark z ipod On Feb 9, 2015, at 8:39 AM, "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > I'd like to nominate Bob Donaldson for election to the AC. I've confirmedwith Bob that he would accept a nomination. > Would someone care to second? > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 08:01:10 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: OBC AC Nomination From: Glenn Codere I would also like to nominate Rich Niessen for election to the AC. Again, I have asked Rich and he is happy to run as a candidate. Just need a seconder. Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:31:43 -0500 To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC AC Nomination From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Content-Language: en Second Rich as nominee Randy Welk In a message dated 2/9/2015 8:01:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I would also like to nominate Rich Niessen for election to the AC. Again, I have asked Rich and he is happy to run as a candidate. Just need a Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: 09 Feb 2015 08:46:11 -0800 To: Subject: Re: OBC AC Nomination From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 12:15:05 -0800 To: obc ramblings Subject: eBay linked PayPal Account From: David Fallen I just had two snipe bids rejected because "Pending bid for auction 221676444129 failed because the seller requires bidders have a linked PayPal account." This is the first time in well over 1,000 eBay bids that this has happened. WTF? The seller left money on the table as two of my bids were substantially higher than the hammer price. I have googled the issue and while I can find many references to HOW to link eBay and PayPal accounts, I can find nothing that explained exactly WHAT a linked PayPal account is, or what the advantages/disadvantages might be. Actually, I thought I WAS linked. For example, I just bought a BIN item and just clicked on the "pay by PayPal" button. Presto, the item was paid for -- I was not taken to the PayPal site nor required to log in to PayPal. So, what the heck IS a linked account? If anyone can unconfuse me, I would appreciate it. ================= Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:12:13 -0500 To: David Fallen , obc ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay linked PayPal Account From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:17:42 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Factoid From: Larry Tipton I've been a member of OBC since 1991 and I don't think I've ever served as a new guys mentor. Seems kind of strange to me? ================= Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:19:48 -0800 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Factoid From: Stamper That's so we could ease the new Members into Tipton Mints!! On Feb 9, 2015, at 3:17 PM, "Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > new ================= Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 16:07:12 -0800 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dean's Cards and eBay From: David Fallen I haven't tried it myself, but if you use Advanced Search, scroll down to the section "Sellers". Check the box next to "Only show items from:". Just below that, change "Include" to "Exclude" and enter Deans Cards user ID. Now the searches will exclude cards from that dealer. Like I said, I have not used this before and I don't know if you can save this preference, or if you have to do this routine each time. On 2/9/2015 3:51 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Seems that Dean's has flooded eBay with their several hundred > thousand card inventory. Every eBay search I do starts with nothing > but Dean's Cards listings--all over priced, none of which I am > remotely interested in . > Anybody know of an easy way to block all their listings--ruining ebay > for me. > I'm done complaining.... > peter mead ================= To: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 21:03:51 -0800 Subject: Re: Dean's Cards and eBay From: "George Vrechek" Talk about overpriced. Dean's card has a $5 to $10 T218 priced at something like $150. Maybe they have lost sight of reality. George Vrechek ================= Date: 10 Feb 2015 04:43:27 -0800 To: Subject: Exhibits From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 10:18:11 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Wantlist Server clean-Up From: Larry Tipton I am the "manager" of the Wantlist Server and I just finished cleaning up and removing those who are no longer OBC members. There is a chance I could have made a mistake, so if you find you are no longer receiving "Wantlist" messages you may have to sign up again for that server. Sorry! A quick count reveals I removed 35 email address. It was kind of a pain because many ofyou do not have "Display Names" as Tom reminded us a few days ago. If there is not a display name, I had to compare the listed email address against all the Active and Inactive members email addresses. So if the listed email address did not compare with your regular OBC email address you could have been removed. Some guys did have display names and a couple of different email addresses so I left those alone. It would be SO much easier if everyone listed a "Display Name" here is a copy of the message Tom sent out please help a brother out and update those Yahoo Groups accounts! Hi guys, Pardon the interruption. We're about to begins something on the Yahoo Groups pages that is long overdue - going through the members of each group, and deleting any that are nolonger OBC members. We want to make sure we don't accidentally delete active When we, as owners or moderators, click on "manage members", we get a list of everyone in the group. There are columns for Display Name, Yahoo ID, e-mail address, mail delivery options, etc. If you haven't added a Display name, we don't know who you are unless we can easily identify your e-mail address. So please help us out if you haven't done this already, and add your first & last name to your profile To do that, please sign in to your Yahoo Groups account. There, one of youroptions on your profile is to add a Display Name - which is your first & last name. Many members have not done this, so all we see are e-mail addresses. It only takes a minute or two to do this. 1) Go to one of your Yahoo Groups pages. 2) Click the "Membership" tab 3) Click "Edit membership" 4) At the top of the next page is "Identity". Click on the little pencil toedit your info. 5) Add your first & last name. BOOM! Done. If you're able to see the pictures I've added (I still have a hard time figuring out adding pictures to these messages), you'll see the "manage members" page that owners/mods can see. You can see how there are many just on this page that don't have Display Names. ================= Date: 10 Feb 2015 17:28:22 -0800 To: Subject: An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:31:35 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 52s and 53s on Net54 From: Rob Bessette Nice low grade lots on Net54 for 1952 Topps and 1953 Topps. Less than $1/each. Good deals to be had on some beaters... Net54baseball.com Forums | | | | | | | | | | | Net54baseball.com ForumsDiscussions of vintage baseball cards, autographsand sports memorabilia. | | | | View on net54baseball.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | ================= To: , Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:49:53 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: "Grant Rainsley" I admit I have dabbled a little bit with pre-war=E2=A6=E2=A6I like type cards though, one each from various sets, and I don=E2=99t care who it is..=E2=A6but I grew up in the =E250=E2=99s and =E260=E2=99s, and just can=E2=99t seem to get out of that zone. I rememberthe majority of the players, so those cards mean more to me. Sure Ruth, Gehrig, WaJo, etc. are all legendary. But I seem to be satisfied with cards of players from way back then by collecting the =E2=9960 and =E261Fleer sets. The pre-war bug just hasn=E2=99t set in. Has likely saved me a wad of cash, and might even have preserved my marriage..and therefore kept me alive. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: February-10-15 5:28 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) So before I joined this group, and then signed up for Net54, I was convinced that my vintage collecting would span from the mid 50s-the late 70s. Maybe a pre war pick up here or there, but generally, nah, wasnt interested. Well, then OBC and Net 54 came along, and all of a sudden I find myself loving the prewar stuff so much more than I thought I would! Ive picked up allmanner of type cards, pins, and just stuff over the past few months, and Ifind myself falling in love with the little tobacco cards, the odd shaped and odd sized stuff, and learning about the old sets has rapidly become something of an obsession. Anyone else find this to be the case with them? I always thought pre-war collecting wasnt in my budget- and a lot of it isnt, but wow, what cool stuffto learn about, and occasionally obtain! "Rant" Over! Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:53:52 -0600 To: "jehutch75@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: TJ Valacak I feel the same way. When I joined OBC 10 years ago, the though of even attempting a Red Sox or white sox team set from 1952 was overwhelming to me. Eventually, I posted the team sets. Then decided to go for the sets themselves. And as most things go, I kept expanding - eventually adding a tobacco set -1953 Redman-hah! But about 5 years ago I decided to start working on prewar Red Sox and white sox. It is probably my favorite part of my collection. I like the different products put out. Learning about the sets. The players. It's fascinating. I could go on and on about it. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2015, at 7:28 PM, "jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > So before I joined this group, and then signed up for Net54, I was convinced that my vintage collecting would span from the mid 50s-the late 70s. Maybe a pre war pick up here or there, but generally, nah, wasnt interested. > Well, then OBC and Net 54 came along, and all of a sudden I find myself loving the prewar stuff so much more than I thought I would! Ive picked up all manner of type cards, pins, and just stuff over the past few months, andI find myself falling in love with the little tobacco cards, the odd shaped and odd sized stuff, and learning about the old sets has rapidly become something of an obsession. > Anyone else find this to be the case with them? I always thought pre-war collecting wasnt in my budget- and a lot of it isnt, but wow, what cool stuff to learn about, and occasionally obtain! > "Rant" Over! > Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:55:14 -0700 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:33:25 -0500 To: "illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:08:20 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 20:30:56 -0800 To: jehutch75@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: David Fallen I too have been down this road. I started intending only to collect cards from the Mantle years (1951 - 1969). Not every year, but mostly years I really liked as a kid: 1955, 56, 59, and 60 (Topps). I added a few other sets along the way but eventually got more interested in vintage PCL cards. I have pretty much stopped the Topps collecting - I need one card to finish the 1969 set and haven't looked for that card for at least two years now. My WABORN (Washington-born players) collection introduced me to a variety of pre-war cards and as the vintage PCL stuff dried up I started picking up more and more prewar cards. As I stated in a recent Net54 post, I do NOT collect T206 cards, yet my Monster Count is now 325 different cards. I have many Seattle Zeenuts and Obaks that qualify as pre-war as well as strip cards and various other issues. I find the BST board at Net54 a good place to pick up cards at a reasonable price. Geno said "I suppose. $20 T205/T206 cards are fairly easy to come by..." and he is correct. Most of my T206 cards cost $15 or less (HOF and SL cards are obviously more expensive). Welcome to the club! On 2/10/2015 5:28 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > So before I joined this group, and then signed up for Net54, I was > convinced that my vintage collecting would span from the mid 50s-the > late 70s. Maybe a pre war pick up here or there, but generally, nah, > wasnt interested. > Well, then OBC and Net 54 came along, and all of a sudden I find > myself loving the prewar stuff so much more than I thought I would! > Ive picked up all manner of type cards, pins, and just stuff over the > past few months, and I find myself falling in love with the little > tobacco cards, the odd shaped and odd sized stuff, and learning about > the old sets has rapidly become something of an obsession. > Anyone else find this to be the case with them? I always thought > pre-war collecting wasnt in my budget- and a lot of it isnt, but wow, > what cool stuff to learn about, and occasionally obtain! > "Rant" Over! > Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 07:17:51 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: Larry Tipton My journey into pre-war cards began a couple of years ago. I was in California for my 40th High School reunion, and was part of an OBC "meet-up" at Josh Levines house with Peter I. and John S. We had a chance to enjoy Joshs pre-war collection and I fell in love with the T205 Gold Border set. That same summer I was in Colorado and visited Geno at his home, and had the chance to view Genos pre war cards, and really loved how those T205 Gold Borderslooked slabbed in SGC holders. I was "hooked". I'm not really collecting a "type-set" of pre-war cards, but I will buy anythat I see if they are cheap enough:) My main focus pre-war are 1935 Goudey 4 in 1, 1909-1911 T206, and 1911 T205Gold T206 I am collecting "raw" cards in a binder with 15 pocket sheets. I bought a T206 reprint set and loaded up the binder with the reprints. When I getan original T206, I replace the reprint. Today I am at 71% complete with 370 0f 520 cards in the set (not counting the big four). T205 Gold Border I am collecting "slabbed" in SGC holders and I am at 75% complete. 157 of 208 with 127 slabbed and 30 "raw" cards I have to submit toSGC for grading. I'm waiting for a special or discount at SGC before submitting these as grading costs can get expensive. My T205 set is listed online at the SGC Card Registry and you can view my cards if you want they are all scanned in. Go to www.sgccard.com and select "SGC card Registry". Select"Baseball Manufactures Sets" then "1911 T205 Gold Border Master Set" and "View User sets". OBC member Brian Lindholms set is there too:) My set is called "Gurus Lowest Grade T205" "Beaters In A Slab" and it lives up to its name:) It has a high completion percentage, but the grade, set score, and set superiority scores are VERY VERY low:) the 1935 Goudey 4 in 1, I am trying for a "master" set "raw". There are only 36 cards in the set, but if you include the different front and puzzle back combinations there are 144 different (including four Babe Ruth cards). My interest in pre-war cards also drew me into the Net54 community. It's amazing how much I am learning about cards and our hobby (and it's not all good)! Yesterday over there I was reading some more about fake cards slabbed in PSA holders. Example a crook has a PSA 5 Mantle card slabbed in a PSA holder. Crook makes a new "flip" (this is the paper on the top of the holder,red bordered) but changes it to PSA 9 and inserts the new "flip" on top ofthe old "flip" in the holder. When the slabbed card is held up to a light you can see both "flips"! ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 07:38:09 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Net54 "Membership Drive" From: Larry Tipton The OBC banner add is in rotation on the Net54 site, and I posted a messagein the "Net54 Baseball Postwar Sportscard Forums" "Pre-1980" explaining how OBC works. It doesn't matter how a person finds the OBC webpage, the roadto membership is always the same. Potential applicants read the FAQ, and then visit the "Directory" and "Who Collects What" pages to try to accomplish a couple of trades with OBC members. If successful, these OBC members assist the applicant in joining OBC. I just want to say that there might be a chance you would get an email froma potential applicant, a person you don't know, and a person who has not been vetted through the application process, who wants to trade. Of course Ithink you should assist this potential applicant and complete a trade, butjust be careful. Probably best to keep the trades small and with inexpensive cards you could afford to lose just in case. (LuckyLarry on Net54) ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:28:53 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1950s lots in Johnny Hustle's store From: Matthew Glidden Newer guys might not know the jhustle store, a good dealer who regularly has OBC-friendly lots. Several 1952-58 ones running right now. http://stores.ebay.com/jhustle1/ ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:04:55 -0600 To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: TJ Valacak I like to use the teamsets4u.com webpage as a resource. It will give you some good Reds checklists for a variety of sets Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:33 PM, "'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Does amyone have a pre war type checklist? To include pins and lids? Thanks, > Wes > Sent from my LG phone > "illini_grad_90 illini_grad_90@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > >Ed -- > > > >I was collecting all the Topps sets for a long time, and got to where everybody else does...needing a bunch of Mantle cards. That's when you realize you can buy dozens of VG T205s for what a decent early Mantle will cost you. So it really comes down to what you want more, I suppose. $20 T205/T206 cards are fairly easy to come by... > > > >Take Care, > >Geno > > > > > > > >Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=AE4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone > > > >
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So before I joined this group, and then signed up for Net54, I wasconvinced that my vintage collecting would span from the mid 50s-the late 70s. Maybe a pre war pick up here or there, but generally, nah, wasnt interested. > > > > > > > >Well, then OBC and Net 54 came along, and all of a sudden I find myself loving the prewar stuff so much more than I thought I would! Ive picked up all manner of type cards, pins, and just stuff over the past few months, and I find myself falling in love with the little tobacco cards, the odd shaped and odd sized stuff, and learning about the old sets has rapidly become something of an obsession. > > > > > > > >Anyone else find this to be the case with them? I always thought pre-warcollecting wasnt in my budget- and a lot of it isnt, but wow, what cool stuff to learn about, and occasionally obtain! > > > > > > > >"Rant" Over! > > > > > > > >Ed Hutchinson > > ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:51:15 -0500 To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all From: Joshua Levine Well...my foray into pre-war started early on with my membership in OBC...early on, I knew I wanted all the Phillies from 1951-1981...As my list dwindled, sometime in 1991, I was at Burbank Sportscards and the owner had a really cheap beat up T206 Bransfield which he sold to me for $2.50!! I then bragged on OBC and Len Meideros (sp?) wrote to me and suggested I just collect all Phillies...that started the generation of my Phillies wantlist from 1880-1980. Around 1996ish, I found Net54 pre-war site and lurked for about a year and then jumped in with some posts. Right around this time, I decided after picking up a small lot of T205s, I wanted to collect a pre-war set and figured t205 might be easy enough. Since then, I have come to love the pre-war side and collect Phillies, w574s, and mainly hoard t205s. Larry got to see my t205 collection and one of my sets. Since Larry's visit I have added another 232 T205 cards.Love those cards. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 4:17 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) My journey into pre-war cards began a couple of years ago. I was in California for my 40th High School reunion, and was part of an OBC "meet-up" at Josh Levines house with Peter I. and John S. We had a chance to enjoy Joshs pre-war collection and I fell in love with the T205 Gold Border set. That same summer I was in Colorado and visited Geno at his home, and had the chance to view Genos pre war cards, and really loved how those T205 Gold Borders looked slabbed in SGC holders. I was "hooked". I'm not really collecting a "type-set" of pre-war cards, but I will buy any that I see if they are cheap enough:) My main focus pre-war are 1935 Goudey 4 in 1, 1909-1911 T206, and 1911 T205 Gold Border. T206 I am collecting "raw" cards in a binder with 15 pocket sheets. I bought a T206 reprint set and loaded up the binder with the reprints. When I get an original T206, I replace the reprint. Today I am at 71% complete with 370 0f 520 cards in the set (not counting the big four). T205 Gold Border I am collecting "slabbed" in SGC holders and I am at 75% complete. 157 of 208 with 127 slabbed and 30 "raw" cards I have to submit to SGC for grading. I'm waiting for a special or discount at SGC before submitting these as grading costs can get expensive. My T205 set is listed online at the SGC Card Registry and you can view my cards if you want they are all scanned in. Go to www.sgccard.com and select "SGC card Registry". Select "Baseball Manufactures Sets" then "1911 T205 Gold Border Master Set" and "View User sets". OBC member Brian Lindholms set is there too:) My set is called "Gurus Lowest Grade T205" "Beaters In A Slab" and it lives up to its name:) It has a high completion percentage, but the grade, set score, and set superiority scores are VERY VERY low:) the 1935 Goudey 4 in 1, I am trying for a "master" set "raw". There are only 36 cards in the set, but if you include the different front and puzzle back combinations there are 144 different (including four Babe Ruth cards). My interest in pre-war cards also drew me into the Net54 community. It's amazing how much I am learning about cards and our hobby (and it's not all good)! Yesterday over there I was reading some more about fake cards slabbed in PSA holders. Example a crook has a PSA 5 Mantle card slabbed in a PSA holder. Crook makes a new "flip" (this is the paper on the top of the holder, red bordered) but changes it to PSA 9 and inserts the new "flip" on top of the old "flip" in the holder. When the slabbed card is held up to a light you can see both "flips"! Posted by: Larry Tipton Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 10:12:13 -0500 To: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: Robert Fitts Hi Joshua I started the same way. Soon after I restarted collecting in 1989, I decided to focus on the Phillies. After a few years, I decided to collect one card of each Phillie. I=92ve even gone back to the Old Judge set but the Phils have now lost by support. Until they get rid of Amaro and start make some decent decisions, my fan attention is going elsewhere. On Feb 11, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Well...my foray into pre-war started early on with my membership in OBC...early on, I knew I wanted all the Phillies from 1951-1981...As my list dwindled, sometime in 1991, I was at Burbank Sportscards and the owner had a really cheap beat up T206 Bransfield which he sold to me for $2.50!! I then bragged on OBC and Len Meideros (sp?) wrote to me and suggested I just collect all Phillies...that started the generation of my Phillies wantlist from1880-1980. Around 1996ish, I found Net54 pre-war site and lurked for abouta year and then jumped in with some posts. Right around this time, I decided after picking up a small lot of T205s, I wanted to collect a pre-war setand figured t205 might be easy enough. Since then, I have come to love thepre-war side and collect Phillies, w574s, and mainly hoard t205s. Larry got to see my t205 collection and one of my sets. Since Larry's visit I have added another 232 T205 cards.Love those cards. > joshua > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 4:17 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) > My journey into pre-war cards began a couple of years ago. I was in California for my 40th High School reunion, and was part of an OBC "meet-up" at Josh Levines house with Peter I. and John S. We had a chance to enjoy Joshspre-war collection and I fell in love with the T205 Gold Border set. That same summer I was in Colorado and visited Geno at his home, and had the chance to view Genos pre war cards, and really loved how those T205 Gold Borders looked slabbed in SGC holders. I was "hooked". > I'm not really collecting a "type-set" of pre-war cards, but I will buy any that I see if they are cheap enough:) > My main focus pre-war are 1935 Goudey 4 in 1, 1909-1911 T206, and 1911 T205 Gold Border. > T206 I am collecting "raw" cards in a binder with 15 pocket sheets. I bought a T206 reprint set and loaded up the binder with the reprints. When I get an original T206, I replace the reprint. Today I am at 71% complete with370 0f 520 cards in the set (not counting the big four). > T205 Gold Border I am collecting "slabbed" in SGC holders and I am at 75%complete. 157 of 208 with 127 slabbed and 30 "raw" cards I have to submit to SGC for grading. I'm waiting for a special or discount at SGC before submitting these as grading costs can get expensive. My T205 set is listed online at the SGC Card Registry and you can view my cards if you want they areall scanned in. Go to www.sgccard.com and select "SGC card Registry". Select "Baseball Manufactures Sets" then "1911 T205 Gold Border Master Set" and"View User sets". OBC member Brian Lindholms set is there too:) My set is called "Gurus Lowest Grade T205" "Beaters In A Slab" and it lives up to itsname:) It has a high completion percentage, but the grade, set score, and set superiority scores are VERY VERY low:) > the 1935 Goudey 4 in 1, I am trying for a "master" set "raw". There are only 36 cards in the set, but if you include the different front and puzzle back combinations there are 144 different (including four Babe Ruth cards). > My interest in pre-war cards also drew me into the Net54 community. It's amazing how much I am learning about cards and our hobby (and it's not all good)! Yesterday over there I was reading some more about fake cards slabbed in PSA holders. Example a crook has a PSA 5 Mantle card slabbed in a PSA holder. Crook makes a new "flip" (this is the paper on the top of the holder, red bordered) but changes it to PSA 9 and inserts the new "flip" on top of the old "flip" in the holder. When the slabbed card is held up to a light you can see both "flips"! > Guru > ------------------------------------ > Posted by: Larry Tipton > ------------------------------------ > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 09:46:56 -0600 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: john harrell My venture into prewar started around 2000 when at a local show I picked up a 41 Play Ball of Pinky Higgins. It was an infection that kept spreading. I fell in love with the 1930's color sets and have now completed 14 different sets and am close (5 cards of less) on 10 others. Then there are several "in my dreams" sets that I'm about half way on like George C. Miller and US Caramel. Some of us, including me, probably need to get into a 12 step program to keep this under control. It doesn't help that I'm also hooked on 19th century bats. Anybody got a few thousand dollars they aren't using right now? ================= Date: 11 Feb 2015 08:04:40 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An OBC and Net54 "rant" (relax, its all fun!) From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:07:52 -0800 Subject: Re: Exhibits From: "George Vrechek" The white-backed, nice-looking exhibits are usually prints made by a collector (Paul Marchant? I think) who purchased certain assets of the defunct Exhibit Supply Company in the late 1970s. They were cranked out in quantity around 1980 and later and the values should be modest. (under $1 although eventually they should get considered "old enough" regardless of how they were produced). They are frequently included in with exhibits issued prior to 1966 by dealers claiming they don't know what they have. There are also prints in various sepia colors. The whitebacks though should be the give-away as to their questionable authenticity. At one time there was a monthly newsletter called Penny Arcade that covered the exhibits in detail. I have worked through collecting most of the baseball exhibits which has taken me 35 years. I've only picked up a handful of my wants in the last 10 years. Now I'm into the football exhibits - and a few movie stars. Anyone else collecting the football exhibits? George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:23:26 -0800 Subject: Re: Exhibits From: "George Vrechek" They (the re-printing from the 1980s) are also found with dark graybacks. George Vrechek ================= Date: 11 Feb 2015 09:13:58 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Exhibits From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:00:28 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Strongsville, Ohio From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= To: Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:18:16 -0500 Subject: 1974 Red Sox Poster From: "Bob Donaldson" I've a couple of 1974 Red Sox posters from WGBH radio station. I've posted a picture of one of them on Net54 http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t1485 Anyone ever heard of these? ================= Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:57:14 -0500 To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio From: Jimi Thayer I'm planning on being there. Not sure if I'll be bringing either of my girls or not though. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 12, 2015, at 1:00 PM, 'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Anyone know if the april 17, 18, 19 Strongsville show to be the "big vintage" show or not? Anyone planning on going? > Wes > Sent from my LG phone ================= To: "=?utf-8?B?d3dlc215c3RlcjJAYW9sLmNvbQ==?=" ,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:50:33 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtPQkMtUmFtYmxpbmdzXSBTdHJvbmdzdmlsbGUsIE9oaW8=?From: "John" Content-Disposition: inline ================= Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:49:54 -0500 To: John Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio From: "Samuel E. Taylor" It is the good vintage show and Uncle Dick, Mark Smith and Paul Korst will be there along with other OBC friendly dealers. I'll be there and would recommend it to anyone within driving distance. Sam Taylor On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 4:50 PM, 'John' jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Im up in the sit on whether i will attend. Will decide early April > Sent from my HTC One SV > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio > Date: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 1:00 PM > Anyone know if the april 17, 18, 19 Strongsville show to be the "big > vintage" show or not? Anyone planning on going? > Wes > Sent from my LG phone Sam Taylor ================= Date: 12 Feb 2015 15:10:29 -0800 To: Subject: Joining the UV group From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 12 Feb 2015 15:43:04 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Joining the UV group From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:12:11 -0600 To: Obc Ramblings Subject: Auction pickup From: Greg IPad I listened to the Great Guru and bought a couple of OBC condition cards that I don't need but thought were a great deal and maybe someone in our OBC group would want to buy. I picked up two 1950 Bowmans with one piece of tape across the middle and the names written in script on the front. Actually nice cards in strong vg without those two things. #75 Roy Campanella and #77 Duke Snider. Hi book on each card is $300 and I paid $25 for both cards plus shipping. I can post some pics but wasn't sure which server to use. Guess it is simply first come first serve. Anyone interested? Greg Miller Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 12 Feb 2015 18:45:16 -0800 To: Subject: Small Fleer Waiver and Fleer question From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= Date: 12 Feb 2015 19:09:39 -0800 To: Subject: Net54 Page with banner From: directorth@aol.com ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:50:37 -0500 Subject: RE: OBCAC nominees From: "Mark Holland" We are down to the last 3 days of the nominating process for the 2015 OBCAC and facilitator positions. So far 7 out of 130 members have submitted nominations. That's about a 6% participation rate in our election process. Last year we had a 55% participation rate. Draw your own conclusion on how that reflects on OBC. We need hat's in the ring. If you want to run as a member or facilitator make it known. It's not too late but time is running out. I need nominations and confirmations by Sunday night at midnight. Just a reminder ANY member can submit nominations. The nominee must have been an OBC member for 3 years. Join dates are included on the OBC directory. Thanks to the participating 7, waiting to hear from the other 123. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:24:23 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Rather than go thru this nomination/voting process each year, why not have a revolving slate of directors, chosen at random from among those who have been members for 3 or more years. Those who have previously served would be excluded, and those picked at random could opt out, although it would be good if we regarded serving on the AC as a duty. Terms could be for 2 years, and staggered so that the entire AC slate does not turn over each year. Maybe this has been considered before? In a message dated 02/13/2015 8:50:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: We are down to the last 3 days of the nominating process for the 2015 OBCAC and facilitator positions. So far 7 out of 130 members have submitted nominations. That's about a 6% participation rate in our election process. Last year we had a 55% participation rate. Draw your own conclusion on how that reflects on OBC. We need hat's in the ring. If you want to run as a member or facilitator make it known. It's not too late but time is running out. I need nominations and confirmations by Sunday night at midnight. Just a reminder member can submit nominations. The nominee must have been an OBC member for years. Join dates are included on the OBC directory . Thanks to the participating 7, waiting to hear from the other 123. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:29:33 -0500 Subject: RE: OBCAC nominees list SO FAR From: "Mark Holland" It was suggested that we share the 2015 nominees so that you can ensure your nominee is on the list. Here is a list of confirmed nominees to date. Hope this helps. . Facilitator nominee(1): Tom Housley . OBCAC nominees (14): Andy Cook, Bob Donaldson, Larry Gersbach, Spike Glidden, Kent Goto, Tom Housley, Joshua Levine, Peter Mead, Rich Niessen, Don Rice, Aaron Shirley, John Stamper, Larry Tipton, Mark Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Mark Holland' mholland28412@ec.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:51 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees We are down to the last 3 days of the nominating process for the 2015 OBCAC and facilitator positions. So far 7 out of 130 members have submitted nominations. That's about a 6% participation rate in our election process. Last year we had a 55% participation rate. Draw your own conclusion on how that reflects on OBC. We need hat's in the ring. If you want to run as a member or facilitator make it known. It's not too late but time is running out. I need nominations and confirmations by Sunday night at midnight. Just a reminder ANY member can submit nominations. The nominee must have been an OBC member for 3 years. Join dates are included on the OBC directory. Thanks to the participating 7, waiting to hear from the other 123. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:02:24 -0800 To: OBC ramblings Subject: ebay search question From: John Dahms hello all, I know someone (probably Tom Housley) game me a step by step onthis, but I forgot how to do a saved search for specific items. anyone help me out please? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:34:48 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1952 Bowman pages From: Rob Bessette What do you guys use for cards shaped like 1951 and 1952 Bowman cards? I have them in 9 pocket ultra pro pages, but am curious if there is anything ================= Date: 13 Feb 2015 10:32:54 -0800 To: Subject: Re: 1952 Bowman pages From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: 13 Feb 2015 10:38:18 -0800 To: Subject: Re: ebay search question From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:06:14 +0000 (UTC) To: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio From: talbot1@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00:28 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio Anyone know if the april 17, 18, 19 Strongsville show to be the "big vintage" show or not? Anyone planning on going? Sent from my LG phone ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:18:05 +0000 (UTC) To: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio From: talbot1@comcast.net This is a show that a group of us FOOT members drive down from Detroit for - I presume we will be doing it again. I really enjoy seeing the Ohio guys there as we have become accustom to seeing Jimi, Ed, Sam, Wes and John M. there - I have also run into Joe I, Bill, Gersh and even Tom I think. The dealers are cool with Johnson, Heck, Uncle Dick, Phillips, Smith, Nutrino (sp), Chappell, Savage and many other familiar names. It's mostly all vintage and PLENTY of beaters to paw through. It's easy to blow through a wad of cash and just as much fun to be frugal and swap stories with your collector buddies. I have enjoyed our previous trips and will do my best to do again this year. BE WELL!!! REGARDS --------------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:00:28 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio Anyone know if the april 17, 18, 19 Strongsville show to be the "big vintage" show or not? Anyone planning on going? Sent from my LG phone ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:48:04 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1952 Bowman pages From: richard dingman How many cards fit in one of those business card pages? Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:32:54 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1952 Bowman pages Hi Rob,I've discovered a solution that's close to perfect: if you buypages designed to hold business cards (from Staples, Office Depot, wherever), the 1951 & 1952 Bowman cards slide in there very well. They'll fit perfectly side-to-side (as you look at the card) & the slots are only a littlelong for the cards, but barely (just means they are a little difficult to get out, but it's a small difficulty). The only drawback is as you open thenotebook, the cards are sideways, but to me that's not problem. Tom H. ================= Date: 13 Feb 2015 12:04:04 -0800 To: Subject: Waiver wire: Non sport tobacco cards From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 14:40:31 -0600 To: "directorth@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1952 Bowman pages From: TJ Valacak How about a pic Tom. I would love to see how they look Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 13, 2015, at 12:32 PM, "directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Hi Rob, > I've discovered a solution that's close to perfect: if you buy pages designed to hold business cards (from Staples, Office Depot, wherever), the 1951 & 1952 Bowman cards slide in there very well. They'll fit perfectly side-to-side (as you look at the card) & the slots are only a little long for the cards, but barely (just means they are a little difficult to get out, but it's a small difficulty). The only drawback is as you open the notebook, the cards are sideways, but to me that's not problem. > Tom H. ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:35:38 -0500 To: wwesmyster2@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio From: JEdward@aol.com Content-Language: en I am planning on being there. It works out well for me since it's a good time for my wife and I to visit our son Jason who lives in Cleveland. _Ohio Sports Collector_ (http://www.ohiosportscollector.com/) John McLaughlin In a message dated 2/12/2015 1:00:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Anyone know if the april 17, 18, 19 Strongsville show to be the "big vintage" show or not? Anyone planning on going? Sent from my LG phone ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:05:13 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1939 Play Ball Wyatt #95 - waiver wire From: Jimi Thayer Who needs a 1939 Play Ball Wyatt #95 in G/VG? Please send address. Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:19:06 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Fwd: 1939 Play Ball Wyatt #95 - waiver wire From: Jimi Thayer Already claimed! Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jimi Thayer > Date: February 13, 2015 at 6:05:13 PM EST > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: 1939 Play Ball Wyatt #95 - waiver wire > Who needs a 1939 Play Ball Wyatt #95 in G/VG? Please send address. Thanks! > Jimi > Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:57:53 -0500 Subject: 1969 Topps Football 4 in 1 Help From: Hi Everyone: Need just a few more 1969 Topps Football 4 in 1 cards, please let me know if you have any, if you working on this set I have bunch just let me know what you need. Nick Covello 1969 Topps 4 in 1 Wantlist: Bears: Concannon Bengals: King, Wright Bills: Cappadonna, Kemp Cardinals: Roland Chiefs: Arbanas Colts: Curtis, Unitas Cowboys: Baynham, Howley Eagles: Ramsey, Scarpati, Snead Falcons: Flatley Forty Niners: Alexander, Davis Giants: Frederickson Jets: Talamini Lions: Munson, Robinson, Packers: Jeter Patriots: Whalen Rams: Casey Raiders: Blanda, Dixson, Otto Redskins: Rock Vikings: Bowie, Brown, Cox, Martin, Tinglehoff 1969 Topps Mini Card Albums: Atlanta, Boston, Buffalo, Chicago, Denver, Houston, Kansas City, Minnesota, New Orleans, Pittsburgh ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:41:14 +0000 (UTC) To: "Housley, Tom" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: ebay search question From: Geordie Calvert Here's how to get around that: 1) open your existing search in a new tab 2) at the end of the URL, type in &_jsoff1 and then enter 3) on the next page you should see the old "Save search" option. Click thatlink and enter your custom search title. This same method works for all new searches you want to give a custom name to. Again, just enter &_jsoff1 at the end of the URL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "directorth@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 10:38:18 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: ebay search question Enter your search terms, then hit enter. When the search results come up, there is an option above the items that says "follow this search". Click that & make sure the e-mail option is checked. The only pain in the rear is that if you add a filter - say, only search for cards $0-$20 - when you "follow" (don't ask me why eBay changed it from "save search" to "follow") - the search is saved with the filter name. Stupid eBay (for example instead of saving "1952 Topps" as your search term - itwill show up as as $0-$20) and eBay in their infinite stupidity gives you no option to re-name a followed search. There used to be a way to do it - but it doesn't work anymore. ================= Date: 13 Feb 2015 16:55:25 -0800 To: Subject: Re: 1952 Bowman pages From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 02:57:31 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, card-variations@yahoogroups.com Subject: Did you see this post on Net54? From: ChicoD1@aol.com What do you guys think? Seems pretty plausible to me... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t1423 ...which would piss me off because it took me forever to find the Brinkman. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:06:13 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Needless to say, I am quite disappointed by the turnout so far. I was a member of the original OBCAC, and it was a terrific time for me. Back then,we were just growing too fast and Jim Montgomery approached a few of us to become the "board" to oversee that growth and what direction we would windup in. I think we did a decent job of formulating what is OBC today. We went through a LOT of changes, finding out what worked, what didn't, and changing as was necessary. Being a member of the OBCAC today is so much different than it was when we began. Today, we tweak, we try new things. Some work, some don't. Our biggest change in the past decade has probably been the new "dealer scum" server. One of the reasons we have lasted nearly 25 (holy hell!) years is because of the members, and those members willing to serve on the OBCAC. Sometimes they are the voice of reason. Sometimes, they are the voices that help us effect change. Mostly, they have been handed our trust to keep us together as a group and move us forward. And throughout the 18 years of the OBCAC, I think all those who have served have gotten it right. Don't be afraid to step up. You all know we are all family here. If you want to see how roughit was, I'll send you an email I sent out back in 1997 that helped spur Jim to form the OBCAC. (I rambled long before Ken was a member LMAO). It wasn't pretty for sure! Besides, it looks good on your resume'. How cool would your business cards look with OBCAC after your name? (Almost as good as PhD!) With that said, since we have a lack of candidates, I'll throw my hat in the ring. I know what this group has meant to me for 23 years. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/13/2015 8:50:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: We are down to the last 3 days of the nominating process for the 2015 OBCAC and facilitator positions. So far 7 out of 130 members have submitted nominations. That's about a 6% participation rate in our election process. Last year we had a 55% participation rate. Draw your own conclusion on how that reflects on OBC. We need hat's in the ring. If you want to run as a member or facilitator make it known. It's not too late but time is running out. I need nominations and confirmations by Sunday night at midnight. Just a reminder member can submit nominations. The nominee must have been an OBC member for years. Join dates are included on the OBC directory . Thanks to the participating 7, waiting to hear from the other 123. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 07:01:35 -0600 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Did you see this post on Net54? From: TJ Valacak Seems very plausible. One of the posters states that he margin on top and bottom, along with the fact that this is a 50 card sheet, both lead to a conclusion that this is a proof sheet. I think the same guy states that if youhave the Brinkman yellow, it is from MB. I don't think that it is held against a 68 set if you have some MB's scattered within the burlaps. At least not in my book. I guess one of these days I will have to check my own set. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2015, at 1:57 AM, "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > What do you guys think? Seems pretty plausible to me... > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201423 > ...which would piss me off because it took me forever to find the Brinkman. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:17:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Maybe it because I am not as active as others....and some people dont know who i am but the bylaws say you cant nominate yourself (this is not a shotat Sal who i would gladly nominate him if he'd like) I have never been asked by anyone so I can assume that no one would think I am a good canidate -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 3:06 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees Needless to say, I am quite disappointed by the turnout so far. I was a member of the original OBCAC, and it was a terrific time for me. Back then, wewere just growing too fast and Jim Montgomery approached a few of us to become the "board" to oversee that growth and what direction we would wind upin. I think we did a decent job of formulating what is OBC today. We went through a LOT of changes, finding out what worked, what didn't, and changing as was necessary. Being a member of the OBCAC today is so much different than it was when we began. Today, we tweak, we try new things. Some work, some don't. Our biggest change in the past decade has probably been the new "dealer scum" server. One of the reasons we have lasted nearly 25 (holy hell!) years is because of the members, and those members willing to serve on the OBCAC. Sometimes they are the voice of reason. Sometimes, they are the voices that help us effect change. Mostly, they have been handed our trust to keep us together asa group and move us forward. And throughout the 18 years of the OBCAC, I think all those who have served have gotten it right. Don't be afraid to step up. You all know we are all family here. If you want to see how rough it was, I'll send you an email I sent out back in 1997 that helped spur Jim toform the OBCAC. (I rambled long before Ken was a member LMAO). It wasn't pretty for sure! Besides, it looks good on your resume'. How cool would your business cards look with OBCAC after your name? (Almost as good as PhD!) With that said, since we have a lack of candidates, I'll throw my hat in the ring. I know what this group has meant to me for 23 years. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/13/2015 8:50:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com We are down to the last 3 days of the nominating process for the 2015 OBCAC and facilitator positions. So far 7 out of 130 members have submittednominations. That's about a 6% participation rate in our election process. Last year we had a 55% participation rate. Draw your own conclusion on how that reflects on OBC. We need hat's in the ring. If you want to run as a member or facilitatormake it known. It's not too late but time is running out. I need nominations and confirmations by Sunday night at midnight. Just a reminder ANYmember can submit nominations. The nominee must have been an OBC memberfor 3 years. Join dates are included on the OBC directory . Thanks to the participating 7, waiting to hear from the other 123. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:41:36 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: Did you see this post on Net54? From: Larry Tipton I followed post #5 to the SCD article that shows an uncut sheet from the Milton Bradley set. I actually have a couple of the Topps "Hot Rod" cards with yellow backs and I always wondered where those came from. There were someHot Rod cards printed with the baseball and football cards on that MB sheet. ================= To: "obc" Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:42:51 -0600 Subject: very small waiver wire From: "ken goetsch" I got a super deal on evil bay...............seldom seen............. 1976 Town Talk football.............card #19- Packers-Fred Carr........I have 3- of these to spread around...........are in "unreal" mint condition. If you need to upgrade a set.or just need 1, LMK................. Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:03:48 -0500 To: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees From: "Samuel E. Taylor" I'm also very new to OBC (a little over a year) and agree with... that I also thought you needed to be nominated by someone. I have a feeling that may be a a big reason for such a poor percentage of "participation." Us new guys are very reluctant to nominate a veteran who we only know through email and many veterans have no idea who we are. I was lucky enough to have been nominated by Spike Glidden, but how many OBC members out there even know who... BTW, that will be the first item that I want to address if elected. We NEED to have everyone sign their emails with their actual NAME so that everyone knows who they are. Nicknames like Spike, and Guru are fine, but if we have multiple "Mikes" and "Bobs" or a random email address like... LUURSCJG@aol.comdoesn't help if it's not signed by the actual person. Sorry for the rant, but I would like to officially nominate... whoever he/she is. Sam Taylor On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:17 AM, LUURSCJG@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Maybe it because I am not as active as others....and some people dont know > who i am but the bylaws say you cant nominate yourself (this is not a shot > at Sal who i would gladly nominate him if he'd like) I have never been > asked by anyone so I can assume that no one would think I am a good > canidate > -----Original Message----- > From: ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Sat, Feb 14, 2015 3:06 am > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: OBCAC nominees > Needless to say, I am quite disappointed by the turnout so far. I was > a member of the original OBCAC, and it was a terrific time for me. Back > then, we were just growing too fast and Jim Montgomery approached a few of > us to become the "board" to oversee that growth and what direction we would > wind up in. I think we did a decent job of formulating what is OBC today. > We went through a LOT of changes, finding out what worked, what didn't, and > changing as was necessary. Being a member of the OBCAC today is so much > different than it was when we began. Today, we tweak, we try new things. > Some work, some don't. Our biggest change in the past decade has probably > been the new "dealer scum" server. > One of the reasons we have lasted nearly 25 (holy hell!) years is > because of the members, and those members willing to serve on the OBCAC. > Sometimes they are the voice of reason. Sometimes, they are the voices that > help us effect change. Mostly, they have been handed our trust to keep us > together as a group and move us forward. And throughout the 18 years of the > OBCAC, I think all those who have served have gotten it right. Don't be > afraid to step up. You all know we are all family here. If you want to see > how rough it was, I'll send you an email I sent out back in 1997 that > helped spur Jim to form the OBCAC. (I rambled long before Ken was a member > LMAO). It wasn't pretty for sure! > Besides, it looks good on your resume'. How cool would your business cards > look with OBCAC after your name? (Almost as good as PhD!) > With that said, since we have a lack of candidates, I'll throw my hat in > the ring. I know what this group has meant to me for 23 years. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/13/2015 8:50:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > We are down to the last 3 days of the nominating process for the 2015 > OBCAC and facilitator positions. So far 7 out of 130 members have > submitted nominations. That's about a 6% participation rate in our > election process. Last year we had a 55% participation rate. Draw your own > conclusion on how that reflects on OBC. > We need hat's in the ring. If you want to run as a member or > facilitator make it known. It's not too late but time is running out. I > need nominations and confirmations by Sunday night at midnight. Just a > reminder ANY member can submit nominations. The nominee must have been an > OBC member for 3 years. Join dates are included on the OBC directory . > Thanks to the participating 7, waiting to hear from the other 123. > Mark > Mark Holland > OBC > http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ Sam Taylor ================= Date: 14 Feb 2015 09:21:01 -0800 To: Subject: voting From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:29:58 -0500 To: "rlabs1@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] voting From: Matt Yudt Away from my computer, and dont have Marks email handy, so apologies for the group email, but as one of those 25% to meet him, I enthusiastically nominate Richard Labs for OBCAC! Matt Yudt Of course meeting one is not a requisite for nominating.... Sent from my iPhone - please excuse typos > On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:21 PM, "rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > I am also under the impression that you could not nominate yourself. I have met maybe 25% of OBC'ers and that was at a national in Chicago. I am nowretired and have time available. > Richard Labs ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:09:31 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC SB Pool Stats From: Brian Betza Yes-- I am so obsessive about stats that I keep them for the OBC pool---please....help. It was a year of feast AND famine-- 2 winners (McGowan and Martens) vaulted to the top of the all time leader board with their 4th wins---and 2 winners (Mead and Codere) won their first after many years of frustration. Here is the all time winner list: Morgan 1 And those of us unfortunate ones waiting for the big time-- sorted by years of frustration (only included players who have entered in the last 3 years) Now on to another time wasting event--- it is the weekend after all !! Brian Betza ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:27:52 -0500 To: Brian Betza , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SB Pool Stats From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:35:38 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Kirkstarter and bringing Masanori Murakami to the US From: Robert Fitts Hi guys I would like your opinions. My new book- a biography of Masanori Murakami- comes out in a few weeks. To promote it, this summer I=92m bringing Masanori Murakami from Japan for an 8 city tour of the US. It=92s going to be really expensive to pay his travel expenses so I am going to do a Kickstarter campaign to help raise funds. I was thinking that my target audience is baseball fans who know whom Murakami is. Most of these people will be over 50 years old and may not have heard of Kickstarter and might be reluctant to sign up just to support me. Furthermore, Kickstarter takes 10 percent of the funds raised. So, here=92s my questions for you: 1- how many of you know what Kickstarter is? 2- How many of you would be likely to join to support a cause and get signed murakami merchandise? 3- Instead, of supporting through Kickstarter would you be more likely to buy books and cards signed by Murakami directly from me or my ebay site? what are your thoughts? ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:41:21 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: waiver wire From: Robert Fitts A few older cards up for grabs- all are OFF condition baseball. Please send your address 51 B- 177 Keller 53 T - 95 145 131 194 205 55 T - 171 191 178 On Feb 14, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi guys > I would like your opinions. > My new book- a biography of Masanori Murakami- comes out in a few weeks. To promote it, this summer I=92m bringing Masanori Murakami from Japan foran 8 city tour of the US. It=92s going to be really expensive to pay his travel expenses so I am going to do a Kickstarter campaign to help raise funds. > But > I was thinking that my target audience is baseball fans who know whom Murakami is. Most of these people will be over 50 years old and may not have heard of Kickstarter and might be reluctant to sign up just to support me. Furthermore, Kickstarter takes 10 percent of the funds raised. > So, here=92s my questions for you: > 1- how many of you know what Kickstarter is? > 2- How many of you would be likely to join to support a cause and get signed murakami merchandise? > 3- Instead, of supporting through Kickstarter would you be more likely tobuy books and cards signed by Murakami directly from me or my ebay site? > what are your thoughts? > rob > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:41:23 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Kirkstarter and bringing Masanori Murakami to the US From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Hi Rob, I've heard of kickstarter. Never really go to that site though. The thing is, we all know your website and ebay, so the guys in here are more likely to get it directly from you. One way to look at kickstarter is this- 90% of something is better than 0% of nothing. As long as they don't charge anything other than the commission fee, there really is nothing to lose. If got $200 bucks, that's another $180 that you didn't have before. I wonder if you can put a post on Net54 about this? That would be a good target audience. Too bad he's not here during the National. Maybe you could have gotten him as an autograph signer and sell some books. Keep us posted, and any chance I could get a card signed with the book when it's up for sale? Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/14/2015 2:36:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi guys I would like your opinions. My new book- a biography of Masanori Murakami- comes out in a few weeks. To promote it, this summer I=E2=99m bringing Masanori Murakami from Japan for an 8 city tour of the US. It=E2=99s going to be really expensive to pay his travel expenses so I am going to do a Kickstarter campaign to help raise funds. I was thinking that my target audience is baseball fans who know whom Murakami is. Most of these people will be over 50 years old and may not have heard of Kickstarter and might be reluctant to sign up just to support me. Furthermore, Kickstarter takes 10 percent of the funds raised. So, here=E2=99s my questions for you: 1- how many of you know what Kickstarter is? 2- How many of you would be likely to join to support a cause and get signed murakami merchandise? 3- Instead, of supporting through Kickstarter would you be more likely to buy books and cards signed by Murakami directly from me or my ebay site? what are your thoughts? Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home pageor directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:09:00 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Kirkstarter and bringing Masanori Murakami to the US From: Stamper Hey Rob I have used Kickstarter before and would be willing to use it for the book.However I would also go directly through you or eBay. You might reach morepeople through Kickstarter since people you don't have contact with can beinvolved. John Stamper On Feb 14, 2015, at 11:35 AM, "Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Hi guys > I would like your opinions. > My new book- a biography of Masanori Murakami- comes out in a few weeks. To promote it, this summer I=E2=99m bringing Masanori Murakami from Japan for an 8 city tour of the US. It=E2=99s going to be really expensiveto pay his travel expenses so I am going to do a Kickstarter campaign to help raise funds. > But > I was thinking that my target audience is baseball fans who know whom Murakami is. Most of these people will be over 50 years old and may not have heard of Kickstarter and might be reluctant to sign up just to support me. Furthermore, Kickstarter takes 10 percent of the funds raised. > So, here=E2=99s my questions for you: > 1- how many of you know what Kickstarter is? > 2- How many of you would be likely to join to support a cause and get signed murakami merchandise? > 3- Instead, of supporting through Kickstarter would you be more likely tobuy books and cards signed by Murakami directly from me or my ebay site? > what are your thoughts? > rob > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 10:03:19 -0500 To: robertfitts@verizon.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Kirkstarter and bringing Masanori Murakami to the US From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en Rob, my wife's cousin and her husband used Kickstarter to fund their independent film documentary about a US basketball player playing in a professional league in Iran (my wife is Iranian). If you go to this link, you'll see they were very successful: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/554272471/the-iran-job The way they did it was an all or nothing fundraiser. They set a goal of $50,000 in 50 days. No contributor paid anything until commitments reached $50K. Had they fallen short, they would have gotten nothing. Their success was due in no small part to the incredible amount of personal time they spent promoting their cause (global networking, regular Email updates on the progress, offering tee shirts, DVD's of the film, etc. to contributors, staging rallies at NYC restaurants, etc.). BR, In a message dated 02/14/2015 2:36:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi guys I would like your opinions. My new book- a biography of Masanori Murakami- comes out in a few weeks. To promote it, this summer I=E2=99m bringing Masanori Murakami from Japan for an 8 city tour of the US. It=E2=99s going to be really expensive to pay his travel expenses so I am going to do a Kickstarter campaign to help raise funds. I was thinking that my target audience is baseball fans who know whom Murakami is. Most of these people will be over 50 years old and may not have heard of Kickstarter and might be reluctant to sign up just to support me. Furthermore, Kickstarter takes 10 percent of the funds raised. So, here=E2=99s my questions for you: 1- how many of you know what Kickstarter is? 2- How many of you would be likely to join to support a cause and get signed murakami merchandise? 3- Instead, of supporting through Kickstarter would you be more likely to buy books and cards signed by Murakami directly from me or my ebay site? what are your thoughts? Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home pageor directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: AZ Spring Training? From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= To: kenpillion@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:56:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Small Fleer Waiver and Fleer question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I rarely see these, which is quite disappointing as I am down to Cincinnati to finish the set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: kenpillion@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 9:45 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Small Fleer Waiver and Fleer question First the question. Does anyone collect the 73 Fleer Team Sign set? I picked up 2 at a flea marker and am thinking about working on the set. How hard is it to complete? I haven't seen them at any shows including the National. Got a few vintage Fleer looking for a home. Please include address. 1959 Fleer 48 1960 Fleer 22 33 1961 Fleer 73 90 105 1972 Fleer Famous Feats 18 30 ================= Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:56:47 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron - OBC classic From: Doug View item: 1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron Braves chewed by pure breed doberman 29822 End time: Mar 7, 2015, 5:49:46 PM EST Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:07:25 -0500 To: Doug , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron - OBC classic From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: 16 Feb 2015 05:31:38 -0800 To: Subject: OBC shop in NYC/ north NJ? From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:25:36 -0500 Subject: OBCAC election has begun From: "Mark Holland" Good job on the nominees. We are half way done as we had one nominee for facilitator and Tom Housley has agreed to serve again. Each member is now asked to select 7 members from the list below to fill the OBCAC and send your selections to me. Here are the rules for the election process in case you have any questions. 1. Election - From February 15 through the end of the month, it is the responsibility for each member of OBC to send in a ballot to the Commissioner listing their choices for seven voting members and one non-voting Facilitator. Inactive members are allowed to vote. The Commissioner will keep track of all ballots. 2. OBCAC Voting Member Election - The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the OBCAC. Thanks for participating & Good Luck to all of the candidates. Select 7 and send me your list. Brian Betza Andy Cook Sal Domino Bob Donaldson Larry Gersbach Matthew Glidden Kent Goto Richard Labs Joshua Levine Ray Luurs Peter Mead Rich Niessen Don Rice Mike Rumley-Wells Aaron Shirley John Stamper Mark Talbot Larry Tipton Father Pat Wattigny Mark Zentkovich Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= To: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:08:51 -0500 Subject: OBC on Net54 From: "Bob Donaldson" We've had the announcement of OBC from Guru's message on the Post -War section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t1410 Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a trade or even apply? So far the only response I've seen is ex-member Ralph Genova, a mixed response at best. Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you like OBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as long as possible ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:41:37 -0600 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 From: TJ Valacak I just took a peek a while ago to see how our post was doing. I read Ralph's post and his follows. Seems he didn't have a very positive experience. I agree with Bob. If you're on net 54, go ahead and post a little blurb. Keepour post active. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Hi > We=E2=99ve had the announcement of OBC from Guru=E2=99s message on the Post =E2=93War section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201410 > Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a tradeor even apply? So far the only response I=E2=99ve seen is ex-member Ralph Genova, a mixed response at best. > Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you like OBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as long as possible > Thanks > Bob ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:01:06 -0600 To: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 From: john harrell I've just posted to our Net54 ad. I remember Ralph as a member and from my perspective his expectations were somewhat out of line for the philosophy of the group. Over the years I can remember 2 or 3 others who felt they didn't get "fair value" from what they sent out. The key of course is to start slow and feel your way into what is comfortable for you. On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I just took a peek a while ago to see how our post was doing. I read > Ralph's post and his follows. Seems he didn't have a very positive > experience. I agree with Bob. If you're on net 54, go ahead and post a > little blurb. Keep our post active. > TJ > Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Hi > We=E2=99ve had the announcement of OBC from Guru=E2=99s message on the Post =E2=93War > section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201410 > Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a trade > or even apply? So far the only response I=E2=99ve seen is ex-member Ralph > Genova, a mixed response at best. > Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you > like OBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two > members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as > long as possible > Thanks > Bob ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:25:03 -0500 To: john harrell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 From: Jimi Thayer I was going to add my own input, but read what everyone else is replying, and I agree. I've traded with Ralph many times over the years, and we will likely continue to do so. It doesn't help that his lists are always impossible to hit though, too. It's just not a good fit for him. And as everyone else has mentioned, it's not for everyone. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:01 PM, john harrell obcjohn@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I've just posted to our Net54 ad. I remember Ralph as a member and from my perspective his expectations were somewhat out of line for the philosophy of the group. Over the years I can remember 2 or 3 others who felt they didn't get "fair value" from what they sent out. The key of course is to start slow and feel your way into what is comfortable for you. > Bama >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I just took a peek a while ago to see how our post was doing. I read Ralph's post and his follows. Seems he didn't have a very positive experience.I agree with Bob. If you're on net 54, go ahead and post a little blurb. Keep our post active. >> TJ >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>> Hi >>> We=E2=99ve had the announcement of OBC from Guru=E2=99s message on the Post =E2=93War section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201410 >>> Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a trade or even apply? So far the only response I=E2=99ve seen is ex-member Ralph Genova, a mixed response at best. >>> Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you like OBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as long as possible >>> Thanks >>> Bob ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:47:09 -0600 To: john harrell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 From: TJ Valacak I just think it stinks that the only comments from a nonOBCer are negative.He's definitely not feeling the "pay it forward". Or "what goes around comes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2015, at 1:01 PM, john harrell wrote: > I've just posted to our Net54 ad. I remember Ralph as a member and from my perspective his expectations were somewhat out of line for the philosophy of the group. Over the years I can remember 2 or 3 others who felt they didn't get "fair value" from what they sent out. The key of course is to start slow and feel your way into what is comfortable for you. > Bama >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:41 PM, TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> I just took a peek a while ago to see how our post was doing. I read Ralph's post and his follows. Seems he didn't have a very positive experience.I agree with Bob. If you're on net 54, go ahead and post a little blurb. Keep our post active. >> TJ >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >>> Hi >>> We=E2=99ve had the announcement of OBC from Guru=E2=99s message on the Post =E2=93War section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201410 >>> Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a trade or even apply? So far the only response I=E2=99ve seen is ex-member Ralph Genova, a mixed response at best. >>> Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you like OBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as long as possible >>> Thanks >>> Bob ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:50:43 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: OBC on Net54 From: Larry Tipton I visit Net54 several times a day (hey I'm retired), and every time I see our little banner add it makes me happy:) I read something on another thread that I hadn't really thought about much lately. Anytime you post a positive message on an open public forum, there is a chance someone might say something negative. Might be a person trying to ruffle some feathers or cause problems or jealousy or sour grapes or whoknows why. We responded in a courteous manner. I think the banner add will run for at least two months, I don't think Leonwas expecting $75 (voluntary "chip-in") and he wants us to get our monies worth:) The banner advertising campaign is hitting a bullseye right at our target audience. It will be interesting to see if it generates any new member applications. Maybe some Net54 members will see some OBC hats at the National this summerand remember that little banner add. ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:52:54 -0500 To: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: OBC on Net54 From: Jimi Thayer Speaking of which, it might not be a bad idea to run the ad again around the National. ;) Sent from my iPad > On Feb 16, 2015, at 8:50 PM, Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I visit Net54 several times a day (hey I'm retired), and every time I seeour little banner add it makes me happy:) > I read something on another thread that I hadn't really thought about much lately. Anytime you post a positive message on an open public forum, there is a chance someone might say something negative. Might be a person trying to ruffle some feathers or cause problems or jealousy or sour grapes or who knows why. We responded in a courteous manner. > I think the banner add will run for at least two months, I don't think Leon was expecting $75 (voluntary "chip-in") and he wants us to get our monies > The banner advertising campaign is hitting a bullseye right at our targetaudience. It will be interesting to see if it generates any new member applications. > Maybe some Net54 members will see some OBC hats at the National this summer and remember that little banner add. > Guru ================= Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:11:36 -0800 To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron - OBC classic From: Geordie Calvert A '52 Mantle in that condition might come with a dead Doberman. > On Feb 15, 2015, at 7:07 PM, 'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > That is awesome! Why cant we find a 52 Mantle like that? > Wes > Sent from my LG phone > "Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > > > > > >View item: > >1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron Braves chewed by pure breed doberman 29822 > > > >End time: Mar 7, 2015, 5:49:46 PM EST > > > > > > > >Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:34:47 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Visit with The Rittenbergs From: Lynn Miller Gina and Steve visited Las Vegas over Valentines Day weekend, and in fact are still here since the snow canceled flights and hopefully they can get home tomorrow. But Rich Niessen and I and my wife Joanne, had the pleasure of having breakfast together with them yesterday. Of course therewas card and family talk. I've met Steve, the 2nd OBCer I met in person, back in 2001 when I visited from the Philippines. That was a most memorable trip. First time for Rich and first time for both of us meeting Gina. After breakfast my wife and I were able to spend most ofthe day with Gina and Steve doing what you do in Vegas. Had a reallygreat time. So thanks Gina and Steve for the visit and the chance toget to know more about you and what's been happening in your lives. One of the topics of conversation was maybe organizing an OBC gathering in Vegas. I have some experience in setting up such gatherings having worked with a couple of friends here in having submarine reunions hosted at a local hotel/casino and getting pretty good rates. And would be asking Mike Hair to lend his experience as well with ideas. Perhaps this is something the AC can dwell on and see how the currents couldbe running. Vegas is more than gambling and there are plenty of family activities. So an opportunity to mix a little Vegas excitement with old cardboard would seem to be an unbeatable combination. Not anytime soon, but maybe something to think about for a future event and not anytime around the National I would guess. If the AC wants to contact me and discuss this and see if it merits floating it out among the group for discussion, be more than happy to. As I've always said, "............", LynnEnter Sweepstakes Fast and Easy http://tinyurl.com/lj59qt Privacy protection for all. If this is an email to be forwarded, please keep this email clean by deleting all forwarding information from previous senders and copy to's. Only include any text in the body of the email you want others to see. To help prevent SPAM, please put the email addresses you are sending to in the "BCC (blind copy meaning no one knows or sees others email addresses) section rather than the regular "To:" line whereyou should be addressing the email to yourself so spammers can't get others email addresses. When you send, the email will come back to you with no "copy to's". Blind copy addresses will not show up. This tells you it went out correctly. If you don't know how to do this then please do not forward emails from others until you learn how. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:54:59 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Small Fleer Waiver and Fleer question From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I concur, I never see these even at the National. Probably because they don't fit in a binder. I got my Met one mine as a RAOK at a National one year... Maybe Bob Reed? There are a few on ebay right now starting at $10. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/15/2015 9:56:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I rarely see these, which is quite disappointing as I am down to Cincinnati to finish the set. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: kenpillion@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 12, 2015 9:45 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Small Fleer Waiver and Fleer question First the question. Does anyone collect the 73 Fleer Team Sign set? I picked up 2 at a flea marker and am thinking about working on the set. How hard is it to complete? I haven't seen them at any shows including the Got a few vintage Fleer looking for a home. Please include address. 1959 Fleer 48 1960 Fleer 22 33 1961 Fleer 73 90 105 1972 Fleer Famous Feats 18 30 ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:57:24 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron - OBC classic From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en "The dog has been reported as being chewed into 3 pieces by his (former) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/15/2015 10:07:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: That is awesome! Why cant we find a 52 Mantle like that? Sent from my LG phone "Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >View item: >1955 Topps #47 Hank Henry Aaron Braves chewed by pure breed doberman 29822 >End time: Mar 7, 2015, 5:49:46 PM EST >Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 02:43:41 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: OBC on Net54 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Or maybe some dealers will see it and bring a few "OBC" boxes with them to the National! We can have Steve at the autograph booth after his appearance on TV last year! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/16/2015 8:50:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I visit Net54 several times a day (hey I'm retired), and every time I see our little banner add it makes me happy:) I read something on another thread that I hadn't really thought about much lately. Anytime you post a positive message on an open public forum, there is a chance someone might say something negative. Might be a person trying to ruffle some feathers or cause problems or jealousy or sour grapes or who knows why. We responded in a courteous manner. I think the banner add will run for at least two months, I don't think Leon was expecting $75 (voluntary "chip-in") and he wants us to get our monies The banner advertising campaign is hitting a bullseye right at our target audience. It will be interesting to see if it generates any new member Maybe some Net54 members will see some OBC hats at the National this summer and remember that little banner add. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:48:46 -0500 To: obclynn15@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Visit with The Rittenbergs From: Joshua Levine YES to Vegas!! -----Original Message----- From: Lynn Miller obclynn15@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 16, 2015 10:34 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Visit with The Rittenbergs Gina and Steve visited Las Vegas over Valentines Day weekend, and in fact are still here since the snow canceled flights and hopefully they can gethome tomorrow. But Rich Niessen and I and my wife Joanne, had the pleasure of having breakfast together with them yesterday. Of course there was card and family talk. I've met Steve, the 2nd OBCer I met in person, back in2001 when I visited from the Philippines. That was a most memorable trip.First time for Rich and first time for both of us meeting Gina. After breakfast my wife and I were able to spend most of the day with Gina and Steve doing what you do in Vegas. Had a really great time. So thanks Gina andSteve for the visit and the chance to get to know more about you and what's been happening in your lives. One of the topics of conversation was maybe organizing an OBC gathering in Vegas. I have some experience in setting up such gatherings having worked with a couple of friends here in having submarine reunions hosted at a local hotel/casino and getting pretty good rates. And would be asking Mike Hair to lend his experience as well with ideas. Perhaps this is something the AC can dwell on and see how the currents could be running. Vegas ismore than gambling and there are plenty of family activities. So an opportunity to mix a little Vegas excitement with old cardboard would seem to bean unbeatable combination. Not anytime soon, but maybe something to think about for a future event and not anytime around the National I would guess.If the AC wants to contact me and discuss this and s ee if it merits floating it out among the group for discussion, be more than happy to. As I've always said, "............", Lynn Enter Sweepstakes Fast and Easy http://tinyurl.com/lj59qt Privacy protection for all. If this is an email to be forwarded, pleasekeep this email clean by deleting all forwarding information from previoussenders and copy to's. Only include any text in the body of the email youwant others to see. To help prevent SPAM, please put the email addresses you are sending to in the "BCC (blind copy meaning no one knows or sees others email addresses) section rather than the regular "To:" line where you should be addressing the email to yourself so spammers can't get others emailaddresses. When you send, the email will come back to you with no "copy to's". Blind cop y addresses will not show up. This tells you it went out correctly. If you don't know how to do this then please do not forward emails from others until you learn how. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:17:11 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: OBC Vegas From: Glenn Codere One of the things (the MAJOR thing) that prevents me from attending The National on a more regular basis is the very high cost of overseas travel and accommodation at the peak time of the year. Its almost impossible for me to justify that expense (and that's BEFORE I spend money on cards!) unless it can be incorporated as a part of a larger vacation package for us. An OBC Vegas get together is another story though. I'd jump at the chance to touch base with everyone if something like this could be arranged during the off-peak or at least the shoulder-season part of the year. The difference in flight costs is astounding, and I know that great accommodation rates can be found in Vegas almost any time. Understand that I'm not saying that you should schedule this at a particular time simply to suit me. If the majority prefer peak season then that's what should happen. What I'm saying is that if there is potential for this to be pitched at a date that works for me, there's every probablility that I'd come along. If you could pull this together, Lynn, you'd get my support! Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:44:46 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas From: Stamper I love the idea!! John Stamper On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:17 AM, "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > One of the things (the MAJOR thing) that prevents me from attending The National on a more regular basis is the very high cost of overseas travel and accommodation at the peak time of the year. Its almost impossible for me to justify that expense (and that's BEFORE I spend money on cards!) unless it can be incorporated as a part of a larger vacation package for us. > An OBC Vegas get together is another story though. I'd jump at the chanceto touch base with everyone if something like this could be arranged during the off-peak or at least the shoulder-season part of the year. The difference in flight costs is astounding, and I know that great accommodation rates can be found in Vegas almost any time. Understand that I'm not saying that you should schedule this at a particular time simply to suit me. If the majority prefer peak season then that's what should happen. What I'm sayingis that if there is potential for this to be pitched at a date that works for me, there's every probablility that I'd come along. > If you could pull this together, Lynn, you'd get my support! > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: 17 Feb 2015 08:54:40 -0800 To: Subject: Rickwood Classic From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: Glenn Codere , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:26:13 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas From: Mac Wubben I am interested as well. March seems like a good time...then heading down to spring training is a possibility too. Maybe too late for this year, butmaybe To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:17:11 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas One of the things (the MAJOR thing) that prevents me from attending The National on a more regular basis is the very high cost of overseas travel and accommodation at the peak time of the year. Its almost impossible forme to justify that expense (and that's BEFORE I spend money on cards!) unless it can be incorporated as a part of a larger vacation package for us. An OBC Vegas get together is another story though. I'd jump at the chance to touch base with everyone if something like this could be arranged during the off-peak or at least the shoulder-season part of the year. The difference in flight costs is astounding, and I know that great accommodation ratescan be found in Vegas almost any time. Understand that I'm not saying thatyou should schedule this at a particular time simply to suit me. If the majority prefer peak season then that's what should happen. What I'm saying is that if there is potential for this to be pitched at a date that works for me, there's every probablility that I'd come along. If you could pull this together, Lynn, you'd get my support! Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:29:06 -0800 To: "Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas From: wite3 ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:51:36 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas From: cardclctor@aol.com Content-Language: en I remember it usually falling on the weekend they held the Preakness. I used to do a fair amount of gambling, but rarely ever bet on horses - except that race because I happened to be in a place where they offered a little gambling action. There was talk at some point of having the get together later in the year around September/October, but I don't recall what becameof the idea. There's still a mail server for the old Vegas gang, but it's hardy been used in a decade... I just never had the heart to delete it. I'd love to go back, but would have a lot of time to fill that I used to gamble. (Haven't placed a bet since 2010). Maybe I could get more than ten hours sleep over the four days? We could always incorporate some of the old eVents into the official (as it gets) schedule. I'm sure a lot has changed in the ten years since I've been there too. Ken M In a message dated 2/17/2015 1:29:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: We used to avoid March because of spring break and march madness. ..both of which drive up costs. ..we used to do it the week before memorial day ifI recall. ..cheap rates then Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date:02/17/2015 10:26 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Glenn Codere , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas I am interested as well. March seems like a good time...then heading down to spring training is a possibility too. Maybe too late for this year, but maybe next? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:17:11 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas One of the things (the MAJOR thing) that prevents me from attending The National on a more regular basis is the very high cost of overseas travel and accommodation at the peak time of the year. Its almost impossible for me to justify that expense (and that's BEFORE I spend money on cards!) unless it can be incorporated as a part of a larger vacation package for us. An OBC Vegas get together is another story though. I'd jump at the chance to touch base with everyone if something like this could be arranged during the off-peak or at least the shoulder-season part of the year. The difference in flight costs is astounding, and I know that great accommodation rates can be found in Vegas almost any time. Understand that I'm not saying that you should schedule this at a particular time simply to suit me. If the majority prefer peak season then that's what should happen. What I'm saying is that if there is potential for this to be pitched at a date that works for me, there's every probablility that I'd come along. If you could pull this together, Lynn, you'd get my support! Glasgow, Scotland ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:53:37 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas From: richard dingman Used to go to Vegas often to see friends, play poker, breakfast at the Omelet House, and rock climb, but these days work is getting in the way. Wouldlove to go again! Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:51:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas I remember it usually falling on the weekend they held the Preakness. I used to do a fair amount of gambling, but rarely ever bet on horses - except that race because I happened to be in a place where they offered a little gambling action. There was talk at some point of having the get together later in the year around September/October, but I don't recall what became of the idea. There's still a mail server for the old Vegas gang, but it's hardy been used in a decade... I just never had the heart to delete it. I'd love to go back, but would have a lot of time to fill that I used to gamble. (Haven't placed a bet since 2010). Maybe I could get more than ten hours sleep over the four days? We could always incorporate some of the old eVents into the official (as it gets) schedule. I'm sure a lot has changed in the ten years since I've been there too. Ken M In a message dated 2/17/2015 1:29:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: We used to avoid March because of spring break and march madness. ..both of which drive up costs. ..we used to do it the week before memorial day if recall. ..cheap rates then Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: "Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Date:02/17/2015 10:26 AM To: Glenn Codere , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas I am interested as well. March seems like a good time...then heading down to spring training is a possibility too. Maybe too late for this year, but maybe next? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:17:11 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas One of the things (the MAJOR thing) that prevents me from attending The National on a more regular basis is the very high cost of overseas travel and accommodation at the peak time of the year. Its almost impossible for me to justify that expense (and that's BEFORE I spend money cards!) unless it can be incorporated as a part of a larger vacation package for us. An OBC Vegas get together is another story though. I'd jump at the chance to touch base with everyone if something like this could be arranged during the off-peak or at least the shoulder-season part of the year. The difference in flight costs is astounding, and I know that great accommodation rates can be found in Vegas almost any time. Understand that not saying that you should schedule this at a particular time simply to suit me. If the majority prefer peak season then that's what should happen. What I'm saying is that if there is potential for this to be pitched at a datethat works for me, there's every probablility that I'd come along. If you could pull this together, Lynn, you'd get my support! ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:55:51 -0600 To: "" Subject: Re: Rickwood Classic From: john harrell You might also want to be aware of the Southern Association Conference at Rickwood on March 7. I'll be there doing an exhibition of 19th century bats and would be happy to meet up, swap a little cardboard, and chew the ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:04:09 -0500 To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Vegas From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:48:16 -0800 To: OBC ramblings Subject: a small waiver wire From: John Dahms I have the following cards that I had pulled for a trade that fell thru so instead of putting them back I want to offer them up. 59 topps #'s 85 198 58 topps #'s 447 426 404 361 256 251 55 topps #'s 96 101 don't be shy and please send address with request thanks and stay warm John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 17 Feb 2015 15:21:23 -0800 To: Subject: Waiver wire delayed due to SNOW From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 03:28:35 +0000 (UTC) To: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 From: talbot1@comcast.net As Bob suggested - I put in my 2 cents - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------- MARK S. TALBOT ----- Original Message ----- From: "TJ Valacak tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "Bob Donaldson" Cc: "" Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 1:41:37 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 I just took a peek a while ago to see how our post was doing. I read Ralph's post and his follows. Seems he didn't have a very positive experience. I agree with Bob. If you're on net 54, go ahead and post a little blurb. Keepour post active. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > wrote: We=E2=99ve had the announcement of OBC from Guru=E2=99s message on the Post =E2=93War section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201410 Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a trade or even apply? So far the only response I=E2=99ve seen is ex-member RalphGenova, a mixed response at best. Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you like OBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as longas ================= Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:07:24 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: a slight Ramble or Wantlist post From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Hey gentlemen, (and ladies that allow OBC to exist.) Some may know of my newborn daughter, back on September 19th, who has kept me busy since then. She is healthy, and thank you for any prayers that were devoted to her. Anyhow, I have sort of procrastinated my 2015 Goals, response to postings on our servers, etc... Though, I do read every post as thoroughly as possible..... I've come to solve (or resolve) the algorithmic equation of "What and how to Collect." I always thought that if Jefferson Burdick were alive, he would advise me to go after every-single-stinkin-card-out-there... So, I have decided to meet Burdick's spirit somewhere in the middle.... Type Cards ...... I already have maybe a couple dozen, some of which are pre-War, that can be crossed off... Figuring that trying to tackle 100 or so pre-War cards to complete a difficult set would be just as tiring or expensive, I thought, "Why not accomplish 100 or so 'different' pre war cards," and mirror what Burdick was trying to do? Though I love all that Burdick did, I want to try to keep focused on Baseball Only for this life long quest.... I have to consider this a marriage of sorts, as I may likely die trying to complete it. .... I still devote to, and cherish my sets, and Reds team quests, yes, but I am desperate to be able to say, "YES, I HAVE ((((((ONE))))))) OF THOSE CARDS." So here, I declare that I am crazy, and COLLECTING BASEBALL TYPE CARDS, knowing a pre-1980 Type Set will likely never happen... But it's not the completion that gets the prize, it's the ride... Not unlike chasing the monster sets of T205 and 206's....... Wish me luck, and please keep me focused on this, Thanks OBC for the inspiration... (Mac made me do it. Sort of.) Wes Shepard ================= Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:25:45 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: Tracking known Goudey Lajoies From: Matthew Glidden A Net54 forum asked "how rare is the Goudey Lajoie" and one reader pointed to this page: http://imageevent.com/rgold/1933goudeylajoie I vaguely remember the original photo for this Lajoie, but can't track it down now. I remember it as a portrait headshot, where Goudey's artist added a shirt and shoulders after the fact. Anyone in OBC know what the original photo was for Goudey's Lajoie? ================= To: Bob Donaldson , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:10:44 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 From: Shawn Smart I have been contacted by a Greg Henthorn from West Virginia. Based on his e-mail he seems like a great potential candidate. He is sending me some cards shortly. I will keep the group posted on my dealings with him. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:08:51 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC on Net54 Hi We=92ve had the announcement of OBC from Guru=92s message on the Post =96War section of Net54 for 5-6 days. That message is here http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t201410 Has anyone heard from a Net54 asking about OBC or looking to make a trade or even apply? So far the only response I=92ve seen is ex-member Ralph Genova, a mixed response at best. Those of you who are members, if you can post a little blurb about why you likeOBC, maybe try and spread things out, maybe no more than one or two members replying a day, so we can keep this message on the front page as long as possible Thanks Bob ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:40:44 -0800 Subject: Re: a slight Ramble or Wantlist post From: "George Vrechek" Wes, You may have inspired me to revive my own type card quest with all those Jefferson Burdick references. Yes, Burdick would approve. I started a type card want list so long ago it was on an old 1981? Appleworks spreadsheet that I couldn't convert to an Excel file. The quest seemed to die with the spreadsheet and the increased cost of the oldest cards even in OBC condition. It was fun looking for the stuff, but not easy. I was also working my way forward picking up type cards of all sports in the '80s as they came out. I think that's when I really threw in the towel, since the sets issued each year started growing exponentially. I think the pre-1981 type card quest is a reasonable one. Type cards can fill a large album of odd-sized pages. Surprisingly though I found that I still needed more type cards than I had since you don't run across the majority of card sets in the catalogs. If I found an obscure type card, I would try to get an extra one for type card collectors, but those run out pretty quickly also. Best of luck. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:50:17 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The "new guy" has a way with words---and paint! From: Brian Betza JAY TYSVER may be the new guy but he explained OBC better than I could on the Net54 OBC thread--- and Jay's thanks posting about his neighbor Stanley is worthy of print!! I assumed he must be a writer so looked up his bio (which he has completed while mine is still "in progress" after 10 or so years!!) and saw he was an artist--- not sure if it has been mentioned before but the sports art is incredible... it's worth a minute--- a LOT of minutes---to check it out: http://www.jaytysver.com/sports-art.html Welcome to the group Jay--- now on to that biography of mine...... Brian Betza ================= Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:29:46 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Graded cards From: Rick I always wondered why people get certain cards graded especially low grade cards and commons. I have never done it but for a few I can see why. I was bidding on a few cards I wanted and the shipping was set with nothing more for other cards won so like normal throw a dollar bid on some of the cards I don't need to win a few cheap cards. This is one of the cards I won I'm sure it's nicer than the one in my set but the question is doesn't the grading itself cost more than a buck? Why would you pay to grade this? I'll break it out to up grade but really? ================= Date: 19 Feb 2015 15:29:26 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Graded cards From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:33:42 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Graded cards From: Ed Hutchinson A lot of these super cheap graded commons were done for inclusion into retail "graded gem" boxes that are, or were, sold at box stores. They promised a few cheap packs and a graded card for like 9-12 bucks or so. The cheaper grading services made a ton of these on the cheap, and essentially made their money back by selling the graded junk to the distributor who packaged these graded gem boxes. I tried one once, and got a 1990 score rob ducey card graded bccg 7. That was the end of my foray into that product! Ed Hutchinson ================= Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:50:55 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: 56 topps trimmed From: Rick To reach as many people possible I'm sending out to multiple groups. For ramblings this is a waiver wire, for wantlist this is wanted to give away and for dealer scum selling for the promise to give them a good home. These are all trimmed but nice otherwise. 56 topps # 20w-50w-55w-107g-165g-180g-192g-219g-250g-257g-307g-320g-332g and 54 bowman 168 Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:58:04 -0500 Subject: Net54 Trader Doug Doremus ( dougscats) From: "Bob Donaldson" Does anyone have any experience good or bad with Doug Doremus ? ================= To: , Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:47:56 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 Trader Doug Doremus ( dougscats) From: Mac Wubben I've done a couple deals with him. A little tough at negotiating but seemsfair and honest. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:58:04 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Net54 Trader Doug Doremus ( dougscats) Does anyone have any experience good or bad with Doug Doremus ? Thanks Bob ================= Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 16:20:26 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: trader From: Richard Labs has anyone traded with leon lutz richard labs ================= Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 02:50:44 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: It's so cool.. From: ChicoD1@aol.com being in a famous card club... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Bowman-New-York-Yankees-Lot-Mickey-Mantle-101-B Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 06:39:16 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Unknown Traders From: Larry Tipton Remember the OBC banner add is in rotation on the Net54 site. It doesn't matter how a person finds the OBC webpage, the road to membership is always the same. Potential applicants read the FAQ, and then visit the "Directory" and "Who Collects What" pages to try to accomplish a couple of trades with OBC members. If successful, these OBC members assist the applicant in joining There might be a chance you would get an email from a potential applicant, a person you don't know, and a person who has not been vetted through the application process, who wants to trade. Of course I think you should assistthis potential applicant and complete a trade, but just be careful. Probably best to keep the trades small and with inexpensive cards you could afford to lose just in case. (LuckyLarry on Net54) ================= Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 08:32:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Unknown Traders From: Jake Elwell Also - it's easy enough to politely ask them to send first, which reduces the sender's risk to zero. -----Original Message----- >From: "Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >Sent: Feb 21, 2015 6:39 AM >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Cc: rlabs1@yahoo.com >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Unknown Traders >Remember the OBC banner add is in rotation on the Net54 site. It doesn't matter how a person finds the OBC webpage, the road to membership is always the same. Potential applicants read the FAQ, and then visit the "Directory" and "Who Collects What" pages to try to accomplish a couple of trades with OBC members. If successful, these OBC members assist the applicant in joining OBC. >There might be a chance you would get an email from a potential applicant, a person you don't know, and a person who has not been vetted through the application process, who wants to trade. Of course I think you should assist this potential applicant and complete a trade, but just be careful. Probably best to keep the trades small and with inexpensive cards you could afford to lose just in case. ================= Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 09:49:01 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Mini waiver wire From: Rob Bessette Claim away. Add address please 53 Bowman - 58 55 Topps - 74 56 Topps - 21, 312 57 Topps - 244 58 Topps - 68 59 Topps - 377 61 Topps - 244, 267 ================= Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 18:58:05 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: Fwd: Great/Funny ...When Football was really tough! From: talbot1@comcast.net This was forwarded to me - Thought some of you might like this... Back in the good old days, when you could actually hit someone in pro football! . . .This is so so Funny from Johnny Carson! Oh, for the "good old days". Enjoy and get ready to laugh. Click here: http://safeshare.tv/w/xgeUYtjBXd ================= Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 00:24:45 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1979 Topps OPC Waiver wire From: Patrick Prickett Hi,I have 200 or so dupes from the 1979 OPC set (and 300 from 1983 OPC).If you need any, let me know and I'll see what I can find for you.Cheers,Patrick ================= Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:28:12 -0500 To: "Samuel E. Taylor" , "mikesportsfan@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Strongsville, Ohio From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 13:29:30 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: T206.org T205.org From: Larry Tipton Do these sites give accurate price info on what I am going to have to pay for Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 22 Feb 2015 12:28:13 -0800 To: Subject: T207 to trade From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:08:27 -0500 To: "wmcashton@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T207 to trade [2 Attachments] From: Jimi Thayer Hi Bill, Not sure if you noticed, but that is Jim not and Delahanty. Jim is not a HOFer. Glad to help, Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:28 PM, wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > [Attachment(s) from wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] included below] > Due to a screwed up Kit Young order, I have a T207 Ed Delehanty in fair condition to trade. I can add other cards to even out a trade. I could usea HOFer from any of these sets I need for my type collection; > 1948 Bowman > 1949 Bowman > 1950 Bowman > 1953 Bowman > 1951 Topps Red Back or Blue Back > 1968 Topps Game > I would consider a HOFer from others sets not listed. > Bill Ashton ================= Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:10:29 -0500 To: Jimi Thayer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T207 to trade From: Jimi Thayer Oops...I meant not Ed, as it is Jim Delahanty. :) Stupid auto correct. Lol Sent from my iPad > On Feb 22, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hi Bill, > Not sure if you noticed, but that is Jim not and Delahanty. Jim is not aHOFer. > Glad to help, > Jimi > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:28 PM, wmcashton@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] >> Due to a screwed up Kit Young order, I have a T207 Ed Delehanty in fair condition to trade. I can add other cards to even out a trade. I could use a HOFer from any of these sets I need for my type collection; >> 1948 Bowman >> 1949 Bowman >> 1950 Bowman >> 1953 Bowman >> 1951 Topps Red Back or Blue Back >> 1968 Topps Game >> I would consider a HOFer from others sets not listed. >> Bill Ashton ================= Date: 22 Feb 2015 13:46:49 -0800 To: Subject: T207 to trade update From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: 22 Feb 2015 14:28:16 -0800 To: Subject: T207 has been traded From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= To: Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 19:00:30 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCAC election reminder/update From: "Mark Holland" We are half way thru the election process. So far we have 41 out of 130 members voting (~31%). Here are a few things that I have seen. Members are still voting for their choice of Facilitator. Only Tom Housley was nominated and has already won that position. Votes for others are not needed or counted. That would have been better suited for the nomination process. Several of you have voted for me. As the counter of the votes, I am honored but ineligible (maybe next year). For those still desiring to participate, please send me your list of 7 members from the list below. Ranking is not required. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ Select 7 and send me your list. Brian Betza Andy Cook Sal Domino Bob Donaldson Larry Gersbach Matthew Glidden Kent Goto Richard Labs Joshua Levine Ray Luurs Peter Mead Rich Niessen Don Rice Mike Rumley-Wells Aaron Shirley John Stamper Mark Talbot Larry Tipton Father Pat Wattigny Mark Zentkovich ================= Date: 22 Feb 2015 16:53:51 -0800 To: Subject: OBC style early Bowman lots on eBay From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 01:00:10 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Our snow... From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= Date: 22 Feb 2015 17:17:02 -0800 To: Subject: tampa bay From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= To: , Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 17:43:00 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Our snow... From: "Grant Rainsley" Anybody can drive normally. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:03 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; familytoad@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Our snow... I don't know how that came out upside down , which pretty much takes the dramatic effect away. iPAD has a mind of its own! OBC Forever Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: familytoad@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: February 22, 2015 at 5:00 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Our snow... [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from familytoad@comcast.net included below] I drove up towards Mt St Helens today so I could relate to the snow and cold that I have been hearing about in some of your areas. Yep, after I had driven about 80 miles , I found some of our own. I quickly turned around since I had a short sleeve shirt on. Dang, I hope winter ends pretty soon. (Photo attached) Now, back to baseball cards. I've got outbounds to work on! OBC Forever Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ================= Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:41:12 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 56 topps trimmed From: Rick Only had two people claim cards still have 20-50-55-107-180-257-320 Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:43:34 -0800 Subject: Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: "George Vrechek" Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I'll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I'll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction - it doesn't matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. 1. Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 2. The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 3. Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 4. Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 5. A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 6. Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 8. The Monty Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 9. The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 10. Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 George Vrechek I will not count any votes for John Goodman's movie "The Babe" since it was so bad, although you can vote for "The Babe Ruth Story" with William Bendix. If this generates some interest, I'll try the rest of the major sports next. ================= To: George Vrechek , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:00:55 -0600 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Patrick Wattigny Here would be my top 10 baseball movies. 1. Pride of the Yankees 2. Field of Dreams 3. Eight Men Out 4. 42--the new one from 2012/13. 5. The Stratton Story 6. Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins and Karl Malden 7. Rookie of the Year--1993. 8. The Winning Team, just because I like Ronald Reagan and Doris Day, and the 1926 Cardinals! 9. The Sandlot 10. Bad News Bears Fr. Pat the ace movie critic! :P) LOL To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:43:34 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I=92ll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I=92ll postthe results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction =96 it doesn=92t matter. But use a formatwith just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. 1. Pride of the Yankees =96 Gary Cooper 19422. The Natural =96 Robert Redford 19843. Bull Durham =96 Kevin Kostner 19884. Field of Dreams =96 Kostner 19895. A League of their Own =96 Geena Davis 19926. Moneyball =96 Brad Pitt 20117. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 8.The Monty Stratton Story =96 Jimmy Stewart 19499. The Scout =96 Albert Brooks 1994 10. Major League =96 Charlie Sheen 1989 George Vrechek I will not count any votes for John Goodman=92s movie =93The Babe=94 since it was so bad, although you can vote for =93The Babe Ruth Story=94 with William Bendix. If this generates some interest, I=92ll try the rest of the major sports next. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:07:43 -0500 To: Patrick Wattigny Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Bob Corvello I know it is not considered a classic, but I have seen Fever Pitch at least10-15 times and it still makes me cry. One tip about that movie. If you watch it, make sure you watch the credits at the end and particularly listen for a song called "Second Best." It tells it all in regard to being a Red Sox fan since 1958 and about the emotions of 2004. Bob Corvello > On Feb 23, 2015, at 12:00 PM, Patrick Wattigny seventytwop@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Here would be my top 10 baseball movies. > 1. Pride of the Yankees > 2. Field of Dreams > 3. Eight Men Out > 4. 42--the new one from 2012/13. > 5. The Stratton Story > 6. Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins and Karl Malden > 7. Rookie of the Year--1993. > 8. The Winning Team, just because I like Ronald Reagan and Doris Day, and the 1926 Cardinals! > 9. The Sandlot > 10. Bad News Bears > Fr. Pat the ace movie critic! :P) LOL > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:43:34 -0800 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever > Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I=E2=99ll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I=E2=99ll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. > You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction =E2=93 it doesn=E2=99t matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. > 1. Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 > 2. The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 > 3. Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 > 4. Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 > 5. A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 > 6. Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 > 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 > 8. The Monty Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 > 9. The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 > 10. Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 > George Vrechek > I will not count any votes for John Goodman=E2=99s movie =E2=9CThe Babe=E2=9D since it was so bad, although you can vote for =E2=9CThe Babe Ruth Story=E2=9D with William Bendix. > If this generates some interest, I=E2=99ll try the rest of the major sports ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:23:29 +0000 (UTC) To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: tvalacak@comcast.net Great little thread here George. Here is my Top 10, which I found tough to narrow to a top 10 1. The Natural 2. Field of Dreams 3. Sandlot 4. Bull Durham 5. Major League 6. 61 7. 42 8. Eight Men Out 9. Bad news Bears 10. For Love of the Game As I look at the list, I can't believe I don't have a league of their own or pride of the Yankees in there. But, that's the 10 I will go with T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:43:34 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I'll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I'll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction - it doesn't matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. 1. Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 2. The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 3. Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 4. Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 5. A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 6. Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 8. The Monty Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 9. The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 10. Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 George Vrechek I will not count any votes for John Goodman's movie "The Babe" since it was so bad, although you can vote for "The Babe Ruth Story" with William Bendix. If this generates some interest, I'll try the rest of the major sports next. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:44:35 -0500 To: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Joel Freedman 1. Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 2. Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 3. Eight Men Out 4. 42--the new one from 2012/13. 5. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 6. 42 7. Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 8. The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 9. A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 10. Bad News Bears On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:23 PM, tvalacak@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Great little thread here George. Here is my Top 10, which I found tough to > narrow to a top 10 > 1. The Natural > 2. Field of Dreams > 3. Sandlot > 4. Bull Durham > 5. Major League > 6. 61 > 7. 42 > 8. Eight Men Out > 9. Bad news Bears > 10. For Love of the Game > As I look at the list, I can't believe I don't have a league of their own > or pride of the Yankees in there. But, that's the 10 I will go with > T.J. Valacak > OBC member since August 2005 > http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:43:34 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever > Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the > best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite > baseball movies in order and I'll tell you who the winner is (arguably). > You > can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I'll post > the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. > Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. > You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order > you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in > theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction - it > doesn't matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that > looks like my votes below. > 1. Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 > 2. The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 > 3. Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 > 4. Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 > 5. A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 > 6. Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 > 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 > 8. The Monty Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 > 9. The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 > 10. Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 > George Vrechek > I will not count any votes for John Goodman's movie "The Babe" since it was > so bad, although you can vote for "The Babe Ruth Story" with William > Bendix. > If this generates some interest, I'll try the rest of the major sports > next. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:47:18 -0500 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: rjsfgmv@aol.com The Natural -- Robert Redford 1984 Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 Eight Men Out -- John Cusack 1988 Field of Dreams -- Kevin Kostner 1989 The Winning Team -- Ronald Reagan 1952 The Stratton Story -- James Stewart 1949 The Rookie -- Dennis Quaid 2002 Fear Strikes Out -- Anthony Perkins 1957 The Kid from Left Field -- Dan Dailey 1953 The Babe Ruth Story -- William Bendix 1948 Diminished Capacity -- Alan Alda 2008 This last one involves baseball cards so I thought I could count it. Randy Welk ================= To: "'George Vrechek'" , Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 12:53:38 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: "Bob Donaldson" My 10 - I'm sure I left something out! The Natural Eight Men Out The Rookie It Happens Every Spring The Scout Bad News Bears Field of Dreams A League of Their Own Has, anyone seen Bingo Long and His Traveling All-Stars. I got to see that one day From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 11:44 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I'll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I'll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction - it doesn't matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. 1. Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 2. The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 3. Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 4. Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 5. A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 6. Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 8. The Monty Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 9. The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 10. Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 George Vrechek I will not count any votes for John Goodman's movie "The Babe" since it was so bad, although you can vote for "The Babe Ruth Story" with William Bendix. If this generates some interest, I'll try the rest of the major sports next. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9150 - Release Date: 02/20/15 ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:02:45 -0700 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Richard Labs The Monty Stratton Story Fear StrikesOut Major League Pride of theYankees 42 - the new one Trouble with the Curve The Rookie Angels in the Outfield - the original Field of Dreams A League of Their Own richard labs On Feb 23, 2015, at 10:53 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > My 10 =96 I=92m sure I left something out! > The Natural > Eight Men Out > 42 > The Rookie > It Happens Every Spring > The Scout > Bad News Bears > Field of Dreams > Sandlot > A League of Their Own > Has, anyone seen Bingo Long and His Traveling All-Stars. I got to see that one day > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 11:44 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever > Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I=92ll tell you who the winner is (arguably). Youcan also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I=92ll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. > You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction =96 it doesn=92t matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. > 1. Pride of the Yankees =96 Gary Cooper 1942 > 2. The Natural =96 Robert Redford 1984 > 3. Bull Durham =96 Kevin Kostner 1988 > 4. Field of Dreams =96 Kostner 1989 > 5. A League of their Own =96 Geena Davis 1992 > 6. Moneyball =96 Brad Pitt 2011 > 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 > 8. The Monty Stratton Story =96 Jimmy Stewart 1949 > 9. The Scout =96 Albert Brooks 1994 > 10. Major League =96 Charlie Sheen 1989 > George Vrechek > I will not count any votes for John Goodman=92s movie =93The Babe=94 since it was so bad, although you can vote for =93The Babe Ruth Story=94 with William > If this generates some interest, I=92ll try the rest of the major sports next. > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9150 - Release Date: 02/20/15 ================= Date: 23 Feb 2015 10:25:32 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:26:28 -0500 To: George Vrechek , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:34:48 -0500 To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Joel Freedman When is this is all over, can you make a list of all the movies that are being nominated? I want to watch some that are being nominated that i have not seen. ~Joel On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:26 PM, 'wwesmyster2@aol.com' wwesmyster2@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > 1, Major League > 2, The Rookie > 3, Field of Dreams > 4, *61 > 5, Bull Durham > 6, Rookie of the Year > 7, 42 > 8, The Natural > 9, A League of Their Own > 10, Bad News Bears > Sent from my LG phone > "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the > >best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite > >baseball movies in order and I'll tell you who the winner is (arguably). > You > >can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I'll post > >the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. > >Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. > > > > > > > >You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order > >you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared > in > >theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction - it > >doesn't matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that > >looks like my votes below. > > > > > > > >1. Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 > > > >2. The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 > > > >3. Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 > > > >4. Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 > > > >5. A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 > > > >6. Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 > > > >7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 > > > >8. The Monty Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 > > > >9. The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 > > > >10. Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 > > > > > > > >George Vrechek > > > > > > > >I will not count any votes for John Goodman's movie "The Babe" since it > was > >so bad, although you can vote for "The Babe Ruth Story" with William > Bendix. > > > > > >If this generates some interest, I'll try the rest of the major sports > next. > > ================= Date: 23 Feb 2015 10:59:59 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:15:38 -0500 To: JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= To: , Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:16:23 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: "Bob Donaldson" Bang the Drum Slowly =E2=93 Awesome, that=E2=99s the one I forgot! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 2:00 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever 1. Baseball- Ken Burns 2. Eight Men Out- John Cusack 3. Field of Dreams- Kevin Costner 4. The Natural- Robert Redford 5. Bang the Drum Slowly- Robert DeNiro 6. Bad News Bears- Walter Matthau 7. Pride of the Yankees- Gary Cooper 8. Fear Strikes Out- Anthony Perkins 9. The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson 10. The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9150 - Release Date: 02/20/15 ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:26:24 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Joel Freedman Try again............. 1. Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 2. Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 3. Eight Men Out 4. 42--the new one from 2012/13. 5. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 6. Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 7. The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 8. A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 9. Bad News Bears 10.. Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:16 PM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Bang the Drum Slowly =E2=93 Awesome, that=E2=99s the one I forgot! > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JTysver1@msn.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2015 2:00 PM > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies > ever > 1. Baseball- Ken Burns > 2. Eight Men Out- John Cusack > 3. Field of Dreams- Kevin Costner > 4. The Natural- Robert Redford > 5. Bang the Drum Slowly- Robert DeNiro > 6. Bad News Bears- Walter Matthau > 7. Pride of the Yankees- Gary Cooper > 8. Fear Strikes Out- Anthony Perkins > 9. The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson > 10. The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) > ------------------------------ > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9150 - Release Date: 02/20/15 ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:16:29 -0800 Subject: Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regarding "Baseball" From: "George Vrechek" Many great films have been nominated so far; among those "films" is the excellent 18.5 hour documentary by Ken Burns called "Baseball." While it is probably more interesting to fans than all the baseball movies, it really isn't a movie that "appeared in theatres" - as strictly required by our persnickety rules committee. Therefore, "Baseball" is not eligible for the Top 10 list. If you have evidence to the contrary where theatres opened their doors for patrons to sit there for 18.5 hours and munch on popcorn, please contact the rules committee - which is actually still in formation. George Vrechek Movies (that appeared in theatres) nominated so far: Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 Eight Men Out Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 Bad News Bears Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins The Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 The Sandlot Bang the Drum Slowly Fever Pitch Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 The Winning Team -- Ronald Reagan 1952 It Happens Every Spring Simon Birch Trouble with the Curve Rookie of the Year--1993. The Winning Team Angels in the outfield Bingo Long Traveling All Stars The Bronx is Burning The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson The Kid from Left Field -- Dan Dailey 1953 The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) The Babe Ruth Story -- William Bendix 1948 Diminished Capacity -- Alan Alda 2008 For Love of the Game ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:22:47 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regarding "Baseball" From: "Mark Holland" I was sitting here wondering how come all of these people vote for their favorite baseball movies but they don't take time to pick their favorite baseball trading club's voting members. There has to be a lesson learned here somewhere. We even have nominees that haven't voted yet. But sadly I My favorite Baseball movies are: . Field of Dreams (not even a close second) . Eight Men Out (felt sorry for Shoeless Joe) . Bull Durham (Love the Durham Bulls in real life, so this is a no . 42 (excellent movie, embarrassed by the way some southerners treated Jackie) . Pride of the Yankees (back when guys were proud to wear the uniform and truly played for the love of the game). . The Rookie (Love true stories) . For Love of the Game . Fear Strikes Out (Everybody hated Karl Malden) . Moneyball (Traded for a drink machine in the locker room, hard to believe that budget in today's game) . Trouble with the Curve (kind of corny but you can't go wrong with Clint Eastwood and baseball) My favorite line out of these movies is "If you build it, they will come". Costner & James Earl Jones were fabulous together in that movie. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 6:16 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regarding "Baseball" Many great films have been nominated so far; among those "films" is the excellent 18.5 hour documentary by Ken Burns called "Baseball." While it is probably more interesting to fans than all the baseball movies, it really isn't a movie that "appeared in theatres" - as strictly required by our persnickety rules committee. Therefore, "Baseball" is not eligible for the Top 10 list. If you have evidence to the contrary where theatres opened their doors for patrons to sit there for 18.5 hours and munch on popcorn, please contact the rules committee - which is actually still in formation. George Vrechek Movies (that appeared in theatres) nominated so far: Field of Dreams - Kostner 1989 The Natural - Robert Redford 1984 Eight Men Out Bull Durham - Kevin Kostner 1988 Pride of the Yankees - Gary Cooper 1942 The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 Major League - Charlie Sheen 1989 Bad News Bears Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins The Stratton Story - Jimmy Stewart 1949 A League of their Own - Geena Davis 1992 Moneyball - Brad Pitt 2011 The Sandlot Bang the Drum Slowly Fever Pitch Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 The Scout - Albert Brooks 1994 The Winning Team -- Ronald Reagan 1952 It Happens Every Spring Simon Birch Trouble with the Curve Rookie of the Year--1993. The Winning Team Angels in the outfield Bingo Long Traveling All Stars The Bronx is Burning The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson The Kid from Left Field -- Dan Dailey 1953 The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) The Babe Ruth Story -- William Bendix 1948 Diminished Capacity -- Alan Alda 2008 For Love of the Game ================= Date: 23 Feb 2015 16:44:42 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regarding "Baseball" From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:03:00 -0600 Subject: OBC Best Baseball Movies Vote plus a ramble From: "Randy Griffin" My List: 1) A League of Their Own 2) Field of Dreams 3) The Natural 4) The Rookie 5) Bull Durham 6) Angels in the Outfield 7) The Sandlot 8) Bad News Bears 9) The Stratton Story 10) Major League Now the ramble.....I have a special tie to the =E2=9CA League of Their Own=E2=9D movie. Parts of the film was shot at the Huntingburg, IN. League Stadium field (The one with the wooden fences surrounding the field inthe movie). At that time I was working as the Lab Manager for a minerals company in Huntingburg. We were contacted by the film crew before the filming to inquire about the white line marker and, of all things, dried clay. I had the opportunity to work with the crew in securing the field linerlimestone which we produced and also the red clay powder that was used in the scenes where the ladies were sliding into a base=E2=94notably Madonna. What they did was create a dust cloud with the powder when they were sliding in to make the dust cloud more enhanced. Being the QC manager, I hadto make sure the materials were safe to use, etc. Although I didn=E2=99t get to actually meet any of the cast members, I was able to see Geena and some of the cast members take their morning jog around the park. Madonna, Rosie and Tom were pretty much off limits during the shooting, however.Just a special thought whenever I see the movie-- the base lines and dust clouds--knowing I had helped with a small part of the movie. Such are the memories..... Randy Griffin ================= Date: 23 Feb 2015 17:16:15 -0800 To: Subject: stickers From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 19:21:02 -0600 To: "rlabs1@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] stickers From: TJ Valacak I'm not sure Richard, but I spent some time over the weekend updating some sticker books. Came across 87 OPC stickers. Looked in my sticker book. The numbers matched up. I peeled and pressed! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 23, 2015, at 7:16 PM, "rlabs1@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Can someone please tell me what the difference is between the 1986 Topps stickers and the 1986 O-Pee-Chee stickers. > Thank you, > Richard Labs ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:39:42 -0500 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Joshua Levine My Top 10 1. The Natural 2. Field of Dreams 3. Bang the Drum Slowly 4. The Sandlot 5. The Winning Team 6. A League of Their Own 7. Bad News Bears 8. Pride of the Yankees 9. The Jackie Robinson Story (or 42...essentially the same movie) 10. Eight Men Out -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 23, 2015 8:43 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I=E2=99ll tell you who the winner is (arguably).You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I=E2=99ll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared intheatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction =E2=93 it doesn=E2=99t matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. 1. Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 2. The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 3. Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 4. &nb sp; Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 5. A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 6. Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 8. The Monty Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 9. The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 10. Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 George Vrechek I will not cou nt any votes for John Goodman=E2=99s movie =E2=9CThe Babe=E2=9D since it was so bad, although you can vote for =E2=9CThe Babe Ruth Story=E2=9D with William Bendix. If this generates some interest, I=E2=99ll try the rest of the major sports ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:38:36 -0500 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regar... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I guess The Bronx is Burning is out too, that was, I believe, an HBO mini series :-( Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2015 6:16:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Many great films have been nominated so far; among those =E2=9Cfilms=E2=9D is the excellent 18.5 hour documentary by Ken Burns called =E2=9CBaseball.=E2=9D While it is probably more interesting to fans than all the baseball movies, it really isn=E2=99t a movie that =E2=9Cappeared in theatres=E2=9D =E2=93as strictly required by our persnickety rules committee. Therefore, =E2=9CBaseball=E2=9D is not eligible for the Top 10 list. If you have evidence to the contrary where theatres opened their doors for patrons to sit there for 18.5 hours and munch on popcorn, please contact the rules committee =E2=93 which is actually still in formation. George Vrechek Movies (that appeared in theatres) nominated so far: Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 Eight Men Out Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 Bad News Bears Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins The Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 The Sandlot Bang the Dr um Slowly Fever Pitch Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 The Winning Team - - Ronald Reagan 1952 It Happens Every Spring Simon Birch Trouble with the Curve Rookie of the Year--1993.< /o> The Winning Team Angels in the outfield Bingo Long Traveling All Stars The Bronx is Burning The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson The Kid from Left Field -- Dan Dailey 1953 The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) The Babe Ruth Story -- William Bendix 1948 Diminished Capacity -- Alan Alda 2008 For Love of the Game ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:41:40 -0500 To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regar... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Ack *61 was also made for cable. I guess that just makes it easier to choose my "top 10" Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2015 6:16:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Many great films have been nominated so far; among those =E2=9Cfilms=E2=9D is the excellent 18.5 hour documentary by Ken Burns called =E2=9CBaseball.=E2=9D While it is probably more interesting to fans than all the baseball movies, it really isn=E2=99t a movie that =E2=9Cappeared in theatres=E2=9D =E2=93as strictly required by our persnickety rules committee. Therefore, =E2=9CBaseball=E2=9D is not eligible for the Top 10 list. If you have evidence to the contrary where theatres opened their doors for patrons to sit there for 18.5 hours and munch on popcorn, please contact the rules committee =E2=93 which is actually still in formation. George Vrechek Movies (that appeared in theatres) nominated so far: Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 Eight Men Out Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 Bad News Bears Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins The Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 The Sandlot Bang the Dr um Slowly Fever Pitch Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 The Winning Team - - Ronald Reagan 1952 It Happens Every Spring Simon Birch Trouble with the Curve Rookie of the Year--1993.< /o> The Winning Team Angels in the outfield Bingo Long Traveling All Stars The Bronx is Burning The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson The Kid from Left Field -- Dan Dailey 1953 The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) The Babe Ruth Story -- William Bendix 1948 Diminished Capacity -- Alan Alda 2008 For Love of the Game ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:12:48 -0600 To: George Vrechek , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Yaz I haven't seen ALL of the baseball movies mentioned so far but I've seen most of them. My list: Bull Durham (Or, how to cause a rainout) Bang the Drum Slowly (I loved the book so much it didn't matter how hokey the movie looked) Eight Men Out (engrossing) Baseball Bugs (1st base-Bugs Bunny, 2nd Base-Bugs Bunny, 3rd Base-Bugs Field of Dreams (You're from the 60's!!) Moneyball ("It's incredibly hard.") 42 (Jackie) A League of Their Own (Made here in Evansville. Madonna said our city reminded her of Prague) The Sandlot (My dog can slobber up a ball like that) Cobb (What an asshole!) I am embarrassed to say that I have not seen 61, (though I own it), Fever Pitch, (though I'm a Red Sox fan...and I own it). A quick check of a list of baseball movies on the web, (there were about 100), shows I haven't seen about 25 or so. Greg (yaz) On 2/23/2015 10:43 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging > the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 > favorite baseball movies in order and I’ll tell you who the winner is > (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a > big secret. I’ll post the results on our website as well. No horsing > with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. > You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other > order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and > appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact > or fiction – it doesn’t matter. But use a format with just the names > of the movies that looks like my votes below. > 1.Pride of the Yankees – Gary Cooper 1942 > 2.The Natural – Robert Redford 1984 > 3.Bull Durham – Kevin Kostner 1988 > 4.Field of Dreams – Kostner 1989 > 5.A League of their Own – Geena Davis 1992 > 6.Moneyball – Brad Pitt 2011 > 7.The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 > 8.The Monty Stratton Story – Jimmy Stewart 1949 > 9.The Scout – Albert Brooks 1994 > 10.Major League – Charlie Sheen 1989 > George Vrechek > I will not count any votes for John Goodman’s movie “The Babe” since > it was so bad, although you can vote for “The Babe Ruth Story” with > William Bendix. > If this generates some interest, I’ll try the rest of the major sports > next. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:16:46 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Report from the Best Baseball Movie Rules Committee regar... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Damn, this was hard... My top 5 are almost interchangeable... "You're killing me Smalls!" 1- Bull Durham "The only Church that feeds the soul day in, day out, is the church of baseball" 2- The Natural "God, I love baseball!" 3- 8 Men Out "These guys don't look so tough" "yeah that's what Custer said when the indians took the field" 4- Field of Dreams "One constant through the years Ray, has been 5- For the Love of the Game "Clear the Mechanism" 6- Bang the Drum Slowly "Skip the facts, just gimmie the details" 7- Pride of the Yankees "Today I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth" 8- A League of Their Own "There's no crying in baseball!" 9- Major League "juuuuuust a bit outside" 10- 42 "Maybe tomorrow we'll all wear 42 so nobody could tell us apart" Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/23/2015 6:16:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Many great films have been nominated so far; among those =E2=9Cfilms=E2=9D is the excellent 18.5 hour documentary by Ken Burns called =E2=9CBaseball.=E2=9D While it is probably more interesting to fans than all the baseball movies, it really isn=E2=99t a movie that =E2=9Cappeared in theatres=E2=9D =E2=93as strictly required by our persnickety rules committee. Therefore, =E2=9CBaseball=E2=9D is not eligible for the Top 10 list. If you have evidence to the contrary where theatres opened their doors for patrons to sit there for 18.5 hours and munch on popcorn, please contact the rules committee =E2=93 which is actually still in formation. George Vrechek Movies (that appeared in theatres) nominated so far: Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 Eight Men Out Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 Bad News Bears Fear Strikes Out--1957 with Anthony Perkins The Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 The Sandlot Bang the Dr um Slowly Fever Pitch Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 The Winning Team - - Ronald Reagan 1952 It Happens Every Spring Simon Birch Trouble with the Curve Rookie of the Year--1993.< /o> The Winning Team Angels in the outfield Bingo Long Traveling All Stars The Bronx is Burning The Jackie Robinson Story- Jackie Robinson The Kid from Left Field -- Dan Dailey 1953 The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) The Babe Ruth Story -- William Bendix 1948 Diminished Capacity -- Alan Alda 2008 For Love of the Game ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:34:35 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Sports Illustrated for Kids - Insert cards From: Lynn Miller Any else collecting these. I have for about the last 13-15 years. I don't plan to keep them, just would take them out of the magazine, separate the 9 cards from the inserted sheet and put them in a box in number order. If you aren't familiar, these are sports figures of all international sports; pros, amateurs, collegiate, you name it. The only cards I pulled were Tiger Woods. There's probably a lot of these athleteswho don't have another card anywhere. Example from the last issue; Roisin Upton, UConn field hockey midfielder. If anyone would have a request, either individually or by team, obscure sport, school, etc let me know and I'll look to see what I have in the boxes. Lynn ================= Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:36:46 -0600 To: "" Subject: 59 IS DIVINE From: john harrell After quite a few years and a number of last second losses I finally picked the Bob Gibson I needed to put the 59 Topps set to bed. "Hoot" is not in the best of shape but will fit nicely with his brothers in the binder. Have an error-free season. ================= Date: 24 Feb 2015 07:22:33 -0800 To: Subject: is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: , Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 10:37:01 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: "Bob Donaldson" From beckett.com I went to the bottom of the page and then clicked on show calander I then did a filter on Missouri, came up with this one at this site rlando Gardens 4300 Hoffmeister Ave St. Louis, Missouri Zip:63125 90-$3 Dave Jackson Phone: BBCM,BHK,BSCM Dec 06 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Nov 01 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Oct 04 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Sep 13 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Aug 09 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Jul 12 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Jun 07 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM May 17 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Apr 12 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Mar 01 2015 Sun 09AM-03PM Might be others in Ill. Check it out From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:23 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? Just looked up the Strongville show everyone's been mentioning. Google saysit's seven and a half hours away. Being from Illinois everyone thinks Chicago shows, but I am about 5 hours south of there. So I'm wondering if thereis a southern Illinois or St. Louis area show anyone else attends? I am anhour east of St. Louis. Aaron "middle of nowhere" Shirley No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9166 - Release Date: 02/23/15 ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:46:43 -0800 To: "uthminsta@hotmail.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: Stamper Aaron and all- Still no Card shows out here in Los Angeles...John "In the Middle of Everything And Nothing" Stamper On Feb 24, 2015, at 7:22 AM, "uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > Just looked up the Strongville show everyone's been mentioning. Google says it's seven and a half hours away. Being from Illinois everyone thinks Chicago shows, but I am about 5 hours south of there. So I'm wondering if there is a southern Illinois or St. Louis area show anyone else attends? I am an hour east of St. Louis. > Aaron "middle of nowhere" Shirley ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:54:03 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: Mark Macrae JOhn...Its not for lack of trying in LA.... The group put on a few nice shows in Culver City and Gardena, but ran into issues which many start up promoters face... They lost money out of their pocket, a significant amount. Inaddition they had a difficult time finding a suitable location... THe church/school was great, but they couldn't commit to a date more than a few months in advance (You need time to attract / notify exhibitors). With ten million people (not counting illegals) living in the LA area, there has to be a suitable location, even if you have to partner up with a non profit (Boys/ Girls clubs, Wounded Warriors, etc). I hope that they're able to work things out. Long Beach is a boring and pricey alternative...Mark ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 08:58:41 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: Stamper Here is my Top Ten... 1. Field of Dreams 2. Major League 3. Pride of the Yankees 4. Eight Men Out 5. The Monty Straton Story 6. The Rookie 7. Moneyball 8. A League of Their Own 9. Bull Durham 10. Bad News Bears John Stamper On Feb 23, 2015, at 7:12 PM, "Yaz yazobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > I haven't seen ALL of the baseball movies mentioned so far but I've seen most of them. > My list: > Bull Durham (Or, how to cause a rainout) > Bang the Drum Slowly (I loved the book so much it didn't matter how hokeythe movie looked) > Eight Men Out (engrossing) > Baseball Bugs (1st base-Bugs Bunny, 2nd Base-Bugs Bunny, 3rd Base-Bugs Bunny...) > Field of Dreams (You're from the 60's!!) > Moneyball ("It's incredibly hard.") > 42 (Jackie) > A League of Their Own (Made here in Evansville. Madonna said our city reminded her of Prague) > The Sandlot (My dog can slobber up a ball like that) > Cobb (What an asshole!) > I am embarrassed to say that I have not seen 61, (though I own it), FeverPitch, (though I'm a Red Sox fan...and I own it). A quick check of a list of baseball movies on the web, (there were about 100), shows I haven't seenabout 25 or so. > Greg (yaz) > On 2/23/2015 10:43 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] >> Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I=E2=99ll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I=E2=99ll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. >> You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction =E2=93 it doesn=E2=99t matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. >> 1. Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 >> 2. The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 >> 3. Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 >> 4. Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 >> 5. A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 >> 6. Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 >> 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 >> 8. The Monty Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 >> 9. The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 >> 10. Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 >> George Vrechek >> I will not count any votes for John Goodman=E2=99s movie =E2=9CTheBabe=E2=9D since it was so bad, although you can vote for =E2=9CThe Babe Ruth Story=E2=9D with William Bendix. >> If this generates some interest, I=E2=99ll try the rest of the major sports ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:04:06 -0800 To: Mark Macrae Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: Stamper They can use my house...For FREE!!! Is it about finding a location at the right price? And if so, what size floor? On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:54 AM, "Mark Macrae doctorzeenut@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > JOhn...Its not for lack of trying in LA.... The group put on a few nice shows in Culver City and Gardena, but ran into issues which many start up promoters face... They lost money out of their pocket, a significant amount. In addition they had a difficult time finding a suitable location... THe church/school was great, but they couldn't commit to a date more than a few months in advance (You need time to attract / notify exhibitors). With ten million people (not counting illegals) living in the LA area, there has to be a suitable location, even if you have to partner up with a non profit (Boys / Girls clubs, Wounded Warriors, etc). I hope that they're able to work things out. Long Beach is a boring and pricey alternative...Mark ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:40:52 -0800 To: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: Mark Macrae JOhn...Nice gesture, but its a bit more complex. Start off with about 2000 square feet.( 30-35 tables with adequate space/ fire code. You'll need tables (6 or 8 feet), chairs, good lighting, easy move in / out for exhibitors (no steps), parking for about 100 cars, close to food (hobby people love their eats), at least two reliable volunteers (seek 6, because there are always last minute drop outs), assistance with local promotion, and try to recruit a mix of dealers.... , covering all sports, cards and memorabilia, graded / raw, new / old, etc (That is the most difficult part).... It usually takes three attempts to break even. I 've been doing my show going on 31 years, and helped with other show the previous years... There are other details, plus sometimes a local ordinance or two to deal with. Trust me, its easier working with an established non-profit that has access to a suitable facility.... if you decide to pursue, I'll be happy to offer more free pointers... On Feb 24, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > They can use my house...For FREE!!! > Is it about finding a location at the right price? And if so, what size floor? > John > On Feb 24, 2015, at 8:54 AM, "Mark Macrae doctorzeenut@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: >> JOhn...Its not for lack of trying in LA.... The group put on a few nice shows in Culver City and Gardena, but ran into issues which many start up promoters face... They lost money out of their pocket, a significant amount.In addition they had a difficult time finding a suitable location... THe church/school was great, but they couldn't commit to a date more than a few months in advance (You need time to attract / notify exhibitors). With ten million people (not counting illegals) living in the LA area, there has to be a suitable location, even if you have to partner up with a non profit (Boys / Girls clubs, Wounded Warriors, etc). I hope that they're able to workthings out. Long Beach is a boring and pricey alternative...Mark ================= Date: 24 Feb 2015 10:13:28 -0800 To: Subject: Re: is there ever a show in ST LOUIS? From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:08:24 -0600 To: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vote now for OBC's Best Baseball Movies ever From: TJ Valacak Sandlot is on MLB network tonight at 8pm cst Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:58 AM, "Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Here is my Top Ten... > 1. Field of Dreams > 2. Major League > 3. Pride of the Yankees > 4. Eight Men Out > 5. The Monty Straton Story > 6. The Rookie > 7. Moneyball > 8. A League of Their Own > 9. Bull Durham > 10. Bad News Bears > John Stamper >> On Feb 23, 2015, at 7:12 PM, "Yaz yazobc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" >> I haven't seen ALL of the baseball movies mentioned so far but I've seenmost of them. >> My list: >> Bull Durham (Or, how to cause a rainout) >> Bang the Drum Slowly (I loved the book so much it didn't matter how hokey the movie looked) >> Eight Men Out (engrossing) >> Baseball Bugs (1st base-Bugs Bunny, 2nd Base-Bugs Bunny, 3rd Base-Bugs >> Field of Dreams (You're from the 60's!!) >> Moneyball ("It's incredibly hard.") >> 42 (Jackie) >> A League of Their Own (Made here in Evansville. Madonna said our city reminded her of Prague) >> The Sandlot (My dog can slobber up a ball like that) >> Cobb (What an asshole!) >> I am embarrassed to say that I have not seen 61, (though I own it), Fever Pitch, (though I'm a Red Sox fan...and I own it). A quick check of a listof baseball movies on the web, (there were about 100), shows I haven't seen about 25 or so. >> Greg (yaz) >>> On 2/23/2015 10:43 AM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] >>> Inspired by the Oscars, I thought OBC should have their say in judging the best baseball movies ever. Send me an email with your top 10 favorite baseball movies in order and I=E2=99ll tell you who the winner is (arguably). You can also post your picks on Ramblings. This is not a big secret. I=E2=99ll post the results on our website as well. No horsing with Price Waterhouse. Ballots need to be emailed by this Friday. >>> You can write in your own choices or use my picks below in any other order you like. The only requirement is that it is about baseball and appeared in theatres. Comedy or drama, majors or little league, fact or fiction =E2=93 it doesn=E2=99t matter. But use a format with just the names of the movies that looks like my votes below. >>> 1. Pride of the Yankees =E2=93 Gary Cooper 1942 >>> 2. The Natural =E2=93 Robert Redford 1984 >>> 3. Bull Durham =E2=93 Kevin Kostner 1988 >>> 4. Field of Dreams =E2=93 Kostner 1989 >>> 5. A League of their Own =E2=93 Geena Davis 1992 >>> 6. Moneyball =E2=93 Brad Pitt 2011 >>> 7. The Rookie - Dennis Quaid 2002 >>> 8. The Monty Stratton Story =E2=93 Jimmy Stewart 1949 >>> 9. The Scout =E2=93 Albert Brooks 1994 >>> 10. Major League =E2=93 Charlie Sheen 1989 >>> George Vrechek >>> I will not count any votes for John Goodman=E2=99s movie =E2=9CThe Babe=E2=9D since it was so bad, although you can vote for =E2=9CTheBabe Ruth Story=E2=9D with William Bendix. >>> If this generates some interest, I=E2=99ll try the rest of the majorsports ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:59:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 59 IS DIVINE From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Well done...but do you have all the variations? :D Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/24/2015 12:36:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: After quite a few years and a number of last second losses I finally picked the Bob Gibson I needed to put the 59 Topps set to bed. "Hoot" is not the best of shape but will fit nicely with his brothers in the binder. Have an error-free season. ================= Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:08:33 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pet Peeve From: ChicoD1@aol.com I been looking for some 69 white letters to try to hit one of my goals this year. Sometimes I just want to slap the crap out of the sellers who either DON'T know what the variation is or are DELIBERATLY trying to confuse the buying public. They put white letter in their description, when it clearly is NOT. One day I swear I am going to leave a note for each of them showing the error of their ways. Just kinda pisses me off... Now back to your regular card board collecting interests... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: =?utf-8?B?T0JDIFJhbWJsaW5ncw==?= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 05:22:34 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pet Peeve From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 01:17:16 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pet Peeve From: Glenn Codere Git 'em, Sal!! :-) On Wed, 2/25/15, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Pet Peeve To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 5:08 AM I been looking for some 69 white letters to try to hit one of my goals this year. Sometimes I just want to slap the crap out of the sellers who either DON'T know what the variation is or are DELIBERATLY trying to confuse the buying public. They put white letter in their description, when it clearly is NOT. One day I swear I am going to leave a note for each of them showing the error of their ways. Just kinda pisses me off... Now back to your regular card board collecting OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 01:33:35 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: Glenn Codere Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! Glasgow, Scotland ================= To: "obc" Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 05:59:09 -0600 Subject: Small waiver wire and new set listed From: "ken goetsch" I ran across a great deal .......and have some extras to spread around 1973-74 Fleer basketball "The Shots".........small set all in really great shape......this is what I have to send out. Needs are: 1973/74 FLEER "THE SHOTS" cards needed listed 2-21-15 any condition -9,10,11,17,18,19,20,21. Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:40:37 -0500 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: Joel Freedman Happy Birthday, Rich! On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 4:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with > a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:02:04 -0500 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: Jimi Thayer Yes, agreed! Very merry happy happy birthday, buddy! Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland ================= To: "'Jimi Thayer'" , Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:44:50 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: "Bob Donaldson" Congrats to Rich on turning 20! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:02 AM To: Glenn Codere Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen Yes, agreed! Very merry happy happy birthday, buddy! Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! Glasgow, Scotland No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9174 - Release Date: 02/24/15 ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:56:04 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: "Mark Holland" Happy Birthday Rich. How lucky to be able to spend your "special 0" birthday in Vegas. Wish I could live out there like you. Tell Deb Hello! Take care my friend. Mark & Cathy Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:45 AM To: 'Jimi Thayer'; 'Glenn Codere' Cc: 'OBC Ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen Congrats to Rich on turning 20! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:02 AM To: Glenn Codere Cc: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen Yes, agreed! Very merry happy happy birthday, buddy! Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! Glasgow, Scotland No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9174 - Release Date: 02/24/15 ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 05:59:26 -0800 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: Rick Happy birthday Rich! Where everyone goes for their birthday you get to havea birthday everyday. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2015, at 5:44 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats to Rich on turning 20! > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:02 AM > To: Glenn Codere > Cc: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen > Yes, agreed! Very merry happy happy birthday, buddy! > Jimi > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9174 - Release Date: 02/24/15 ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:37 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Masanori Murakami Kickstater, books and autographs From: Robert Fitts Hi guys Some of you already saw this on Facebook and some have you have already backed my project (Thank you very much!). I have begun my Kickstarter campaign to bring Masanori Murakami- the first Japanese in MLB to the US this summer. It=92s also a great opportunity foryou as collectors to pick up a pretty rare autograph. I hope some of you will consider backing me. Here is the official announcement I have just launched a Kickstarter campaign to raise funds to bring Masanori Murakami to the United States this summer to celebrate the 50th anniversary of him becoming the first Japanese in the Major Leagues. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1720383723/mashi-masanori-murakami-biography-and-book-tour We are planning a three-week lecture tour with stops in Chicago, Boston, New York, Cooperstown, Los Angeles, Fresno, San Jose and San Francisco. At each event, I will speak about Murakami=92s career; Mashi will take questions from the audience and then meet with fans and sign copies of his biography. I have set my Kickstarter goal at $3000=97enough to cover the tour=92s transportation costs but not the living expenses. As you may know, Kickstarterfunding is all or nothing. If I do not reach $3000 of pledges, I get no funds. I=92m hoping that each of you will consider backing my project so that I not only reach the $3000 but go beyond that to cover the tour=92s other As backers, you could also get some great prizes including copies of my new book Mashi signed by Masanori Murakami, autographed baseball cards and baseballs, invitations to private receptions with Murakami, and even a chanceto spend the evening with Mashi at a San Francisco Giants game. Whether you chose to back my Kickstarter campaign or not, PLEASE PLEASE share this message with friends who are baseball fans. I hope you support my project, get some great prizes for helping and get the chance to meet Mashi and hear his stories firsthand. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1720383723/mashi-masanori-murakami-biography-and-book-tour ================= To: Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:09:31 -0800 Subject: OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update From: "George Vrechek" We are right in the middle of the OBC awards season with votes being tallied for the top 10 baseball movies of all time. Winners will be announced Saturday. You might ask (although no one actually has), how do you "tally" such scoring, and how is Vrechek making any money on this endeavor. Well, Vrechek has not figured out how to make any money on this endeavor, but I can tell you something about the "tallying." I thought I would assign 10 points to someone's first place vote, 9 for second place, etc, and then add up all the points and rank them. I then thought it would be interesting to see how the Oscars are awarded. I found that the process is actually rather complicated with multiple rounds of elimination and nominations. However, they are trying to pick just one movie and not rank 10 movies. Via Wikipedia I then found the Modified Borda Count which (I am not making this up) is used "to elect members of the Parliament of Nauru and two ethnic minority members of the National Assembly of Slovenia, and in modified forms for apportionment of all seats in the Icelandic parliamentary elections, and for selecting presidential election candidates in Kiribati." Well, heck, Vrechek is Slovenian as is Anze Kopitar, Goran Dragic, and Tina Maze, therefore this seemed like a pretty good system. Unfortunately, the system seemed a little too complicated and didn't look like it would produce any different results than I was getting, so I'm back to the 10,9, 8 I hinted that we might go on to other sports after baseball. Thinking about the movies in other categories, I felt that they get pretty lame after the top few movies and enthusiasm for voting wound wane after a while. I also thought it would be interesting to see how movies about other sports would stack up against baseball movies. Therefore, instead of lists for each sport, next week I'm going to have a top 10 list for all sports movies. You will have a chance again to rank your favorite baseball movies as well as those in all other sports. Movies that come to mind include Rocky, Raging Bull, Hoosiers, Rudy, Slapshot, The Hustler, Breaking Away, Chariots of Fire, etc. Thanks for the humorous and insightful gratuitous comments with the movie choices. It is also interesting to see that voting is influenced by the age of the movie and the age of the voters. "The Babe Comes Home" is a silent movie from 1927 featuring Babe Ruth. However no one was around to see it in 1927 and it hasn't been on TV so it got zero votes. The Jackie Robinson movie "42" is recent and received several votes. Get those final votes in and I'll let you know who is elected to the Slovenian National Assembly on Saturday. George Vrechek (the entire rules committee) ================= To: "'George Vrechek'" , Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:20:41 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update From: "Bob Donaldson" Did anyone vote for Cobb with that guy who was in men in black (not Will Smith). Interesting movie although not my top 10 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:10 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update We are right in the middle of the OBC awards season with votes being tallied for the top 10 baseball movies of all time. Winners will be announced Saturday. You might ask (although no one actually has), how do you "tally" such scoring, and how is Vrechek making any money on this endeavor. Well, Vrechek has not figured out how to make any money on this endeavor, but I can tell you something about the "tallying." I thought I would assign 10 points to someone's first place vote, 9 for second place, etc, and then add up all the points and rank them. I then thought it would be interesting to see how the Oscars are awarded. I found that the process is actually rather complicated with multiple rounds of elimination and nominations. However, they are trying to pick just one movie and not rank 10 movies. Via Wikipedia I then found the Modified Borda Count which (I am not making this up) is used "to elect members of the Parliament of Nauru and two ethnic minority members of the National Assembly of Slovenia, and in modified forms for apportionment of all seats in the Icelandic parliamentary elections, and for selecting presidential election candidates in Kiribati." Well, heck, Vrechek is Slovenian as is Anze Kopitar, Goran Dragic, and Tina Maze, therefore this seemed like a pretty good system. Unfortunately, the system seemed a little too complicated and didn't look like it would produce any different results than I was getting, so I'm back to the 10,9, 8 I hinted that we might go on to other sports after baseball. Thinking about the movies in other categories, I felt that they get pretty lame after the top few movies and enthusiasm for voting wound wane after a while. I also thought it would be interesting to see how movies about other sports would stack up against baseball movies. Therefore, instead of lists for each sport, next week I'm going to have a top 10 list for all sports movies. You will have a chance again to rank your favorite baseball movies as well as those in all other sports. Movies that come to mind include Rocky, Raging Bull, Hoosiers, Rudy, Slapshot, The Hustler, Breaking Away, Chariots of Fire, etc. Thanks for the humorous and insightful gratuitous comments with the movie choices. It is also interesting to see that voting is influenced by the age of the movie and the age of the voters. "The Babe Comes Home" is a silent movie from 1927 featuring Babe Ruth. However no one was around to see it in 1927 and it hasn't been on TV so it got zero votes. The Jackie Robinson movie "42" is recent and received several votes. Get those final votes in and I'll let you know who is elected to the Slovenian National Assembly on Saturday. George Vrechek (the entire rules committee) No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9177 - Release Date: 02/25/15 ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:10:03 -0500 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Just noticed the disclaimer at the bottom of all of the "Ramblings" posts... Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html ...Does this mean that all movies prior to 1980 need to be discussed on the UV Server? If that is the case, then George may be forced to use the Modified Borda Count to equally assess movies made before and after 1980. With that in mind, here are my Top Ten: Post 1980: 1. Field of Dreams 2. Bull Durham 3. Moneyball 4. Fever Pitch 5. Major League 6. The Sandlot 7. For Love of the Game 8. Cobb 9. The Natural 10. 42 Pre 1980: 1. Bad News Bears (the original with Matthau was made in 1976) 2. The Stratton Story (any movie with Jimmy Stewart is a classic...) 3. Pride of the Yankees 4. Damn Yankees 5. It Happens Every Spring On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:20 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Did anyone vote for Cobb with that guy who was in men in black (not Will > Smith). Interesting movie although not my top 10 > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *'George Vrechek' > vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:10 AM > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update > We are right in the middle of the OBC awards season with votes being > tallied for the top 10 baseball movies of all time. Winners will be > announced Saturday. You might ask (although no one actually has), how do > you "tally" such scoring, and how is Vrechek making any money on this > endeavor. Well, Vrechek has not figured out how to make any money on this > endeavor, but I can tell you something about the "tallying." > I thought I would assign 10 points to someone's first place vote, 9 for > second place, etc, and then add up all the points and rank them. I then > thought it would be interesting to see how the Oscars are awarded. I found > that the process is actually rather complicated with multiple rounds of > elimination and nominations. However, they are trying to pick just one > movie and not rank 10 movies. > Via Wikipedia I then found the Modified Borda Count which (I am not making > this up) is used "to elect members of the Parliament of Nauru > and two ethnic > minority members of the National Assembly of Slovenia > , and in > modified forms for apportionment of all seats in the Icelandic > parliamentary elections > , > and for selecting presidential election candidates in Kiribati > ." Well, heck, Vrechek is > Slovenian as is Anze Kopitar, Goran Dragic, and Tina Maze, therefore this > seemed like a pretty good system. Unfortunately, the system seemed a little > too complicated and didn't look like it would produce any different results > than I was getting, so I'm back to the 10,9, 8 approach. > I hinted that we might go on to other sports after baseball. Thinking > about the movies in other categories, I felt that they get pretty lame > after the top few movies and enthusiasm for voting wound wane after a > while. I also thought it would be interesting to see how movies about other > sports would stack up against baseball movies. Therefore, instead of lists > for each sport, next week I'm going to have a top 10 list for all sports > movies. You will have a chance again to rank your favorite baseball movies > as well as those in all other sports. Movies that come to mind include > Rocky, Raging Bull, Hoosiers, Rudy, Slapshot, The Hustler, Breaking Away, > Chariots of Fire, etc. > Thanks for the humorous and insightful gratuitous comments with the movie > choices. It is also interesting to see that voting is influenced by the age > of the movie and the age of the voters. "The Babe Comes Home" is a silent > movie from 1927 featuring Babe Ruth. However no one was around to see it in > 1927 and it hasn't been on TV so it got zero votes. The Jackie Robinson > movie "42" is recent and received several votes. > Get those final votes in and I'll let you know who is elected to the > Slovenian National Assembly on Saturday. > George Vrechek (the entire rules committee) > ------------------------------ > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9177 - Release Date: 02/25/15 Sam Taylor ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:17:21 -0500 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Just noticed the disclaimer at the bottom of all of the "Ramblings" posts... Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html ...Does this mean that all movies prior to 1980 need to be discussed on the UV Server? If that is the case, then George may be forced to use the Modified Borda Count to equally assess movies made before and after 1980. With that in mind, here are my Top Ten: Post 1980: 1. Field of Dreams 2. Bull Durham 3. Moneyball 4. Fever Pitch 5. Major League 6. The Sandlot 7. For Love of the Game 8. Cobb 9. The Natural 10. 42 Pre 1980: 1. Bad News Bears (the original with Matthau was made in 1976) 2. The Stratton Story (any movie with Jimmy Stewart is a classic...) 3. Bang the Drum Slowly (DeNiro as a kid!) 4. Pride of St.Louis 5. Pride of the Yankees 6. It Happens Every Spring 7. Fear Strikes Out 8. Damn Yankees (only because I can't think of another, but I hate 9+ ...I've never seen any others that I know of, or at least remember from that era, but probably Mike Rich or Sal know of some damn "variations" of movies made back then, but that's for another server... Sam Taylor On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:20 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Did anyone vote for Cobb with that guy who was in men in black (not Will > Smith). Interesting movie although not my top 10 > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *'George Vrechek' > vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:10 AM > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update > We are right in the middle of the OBC awards season with votes being > tallied for the top 10 baseball movies of all time. Winners will be > announced Saturday. You might ask (although no one actually has), how do > you "tally" such scoring, and how is Vrechek making any money on this > endeavor. Well, Vrechek has not figured out how to make any money on this > endeavor, but I can tell you something about the "tallying." > I thought I would assign 10 points to someone's first place vote, 9 for > second place, etc, and then add up all the points and rank them. I then > thought it would be interesting to see how the Oscars are awarded. I found > that the process is actually rather complicated with multiple rounds of > elimination and nominations. However, they are trying to pick just one > movie and not rank 10 movies. > Via Wikipedia I then found the Modified Borda Count which (I am not making > this up) is used "to elect members of the Parliament of Nauru > and two ethnic > minority members of the National Assembly of Slovenia > , and in > modified forms for apportionment of all seats in the Icelandic > parliamentary elections > , > and for selecting presidential election candidates in Kiribati > ." Well, heck, Vrechek is > Slovenian as is Anze Kopitar, Goran Dragic, and Tina Maze, therefore this > seemed like a pretty good system. Unfortunately, the system seemed a little > too complicated and didn't look like it would produce any different results > than I was getting, so I'm back to the 10,9, 8 approach. > I hinted that we might go on to other sports after baseball. Thinking > about the movies in other categories, I felt that they get pretty lame > after the top few movies and enthusiasm for voting wound wane after a > while. I also thought it would be interesting to see how movies about other > sports would stack up against baseball movies. Therefore, instead of lists > for each sport, next week I'm going to have a top 10 list for all sports > movies. You will have a chance again to rank your favorite baseball movies > as well as those in all other sports. Movies that come to mind include > Rocky, Raging Bull, Hoosiers, Rudy, Slapshot, The Hustler, Breaking Away, > Chariots of Fire, etc. > Thanks for the humorous and insightful gratuitous comments with the movie > choices. It is also interesting to see that voting is influenced by the age > of the movie and the age of the voters. "The Babe Comes Home" is a silent > movie from 1927 featuring Babe Ruth. However no one was around to see it in > 1927 and it hasn't been on TV so it got zero votes. The Jackie Robinson > movie "42" is recent and received several votes. > Get those final votes in and I'll let you know who is elected to the > Slovenian National Assembly on Saturday. > George Vrechek (the entire rules committee) > ------------------------------ > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9177 - Release Date: 02/25/15 Sam Taylor ================= To: Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:56:33 -0800 Subject: 'Dis 'n Dat........ From: "Grant Rainsley" Time for a Ramble..a couple of topics come to mind: -Trades From outside OBC- I'm happy to pull one off when approached, as long as it is fair to both sides. I hate it when guys say their cards are mint, (they aren't) and mine are only G-VG, so they want tons more. But I am amazed just how many guys "fish" for what you have for them, and are reluctant to say what they have for me. All I can think of here is that they want to dictate the terms of the trade, and what they give up in return...and a lot of the potential traders just simply disappear, never to be heard from again. All part of the negotiation process maybe? Perhaps it is my fault, since in my initial response, I always make it perfectly clear that they are unlikely to get anything from me that will ever see the light of day at PSA. Maybe this scares them, or they just think I'm weird for being a man of low standards, (I am) with no giant desire to have Ex-Mt cards.....not that I don't like nice cards, but I can have more if I aim lower! So is it just me, or have you guys run into this? I like the OBC way.....if you got it, send it....to paraphrase, "If you mail them, they will come." -Spring Training is on, Josh Hamilton is injured again, so pretty much the annual ritual there. Looking forward to the AL West this year....I don't think my Halos are going to run away with it by ten games this time around. I think the Mariners are going to have something to say about that, they could be the most improved team in the West. -Good road trip for my Canucks, beating Boston last night 2-1, when they should have lost about 8-2. Outstanding performance by backup Eddie Lack, replacing our injured #1, Ryan Miller. Folks in Canuck Land are asking Roberto who? -And now completely off topic, just had nine Orcas mosey by, very close into shore...made for a nice day. Just about time to get ready for the weekly Summit Meeting with the boys at The Legion...happens every Wednesday at 1:30, you are all invited each week, if you can find Powell River, B.C. We do our best to resolve international issues and World Peace. Luckily, we apparently aren't very good at it, so we have to keep going back. Sooner or later we'll get it right, but I hope not too soon. Well, I have shot my bolt, thanks for reading, if you are still here. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:23:40 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen From: Stamper Happy Birthday Rich!! I hope Karyn and I can make it out there soon. We miss you. Enjoy your day! John Stamper On Feb 25, 2015, at 5:56 AM, "'Mark Holland' mholland28412@ec.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Happy Birthday Rich. How lucky to be able to spend your "special 0" birthday in Vegas. Wish I could live out there like you. Tell Deb Hello! > Take care my friend. > Mark & Cathy Holland > OBC > http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 'Bob Donaldson' obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:45 AM > To: 'Jimi Thayer'; 'Glenn Codere' > Cc: 'OBC Ramblings' > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen > Congrats to Rich on turning 20! > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:02 AM > To: Glenn Codere > Cc: OBC Ramblings > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Happy Birthday, Rich Niessen > Yes, agreed! Very merry happy happy birthday, buddy! > Jimi > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:33 AM, Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Congrats to Rich Niessen for reaching one of those milestone bithdays with a "0" on the end of it. May you celebrate many more, my friend!! > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9174 - Release Date: 02/24/15 ================= Date: 25 Feb 2015 13:31:36 -0800 To: Subject: Most valuable baseball item From: jschris@triwest.net ================= To: , Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:50:36 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item From: "Bob Donaldson" From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jschris@triwest.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:32 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item Some of you folks may have seen this story on Net54, but I wanted to share this (with more detail) with my friends in OBC, too. It's long, so strap in (or skip to the next post...it's okay:)). In the early 2000's, I was busy researching baseball in Eau Claire, WI. One of the things I did was to try to contact as many former Eau Claire ballplayers as I could find. I had experience writing to major leaguers thanks to the old Jack Smalling mailing lists, but finding career minor leaguers was quite a chore. I focused on guys with less common names, looked on Yahoo for addresses, and basically sent a letter with a stamp and a prayer thatthis was the right person. I was actually fairly successful doing this and ended up with far more hits than misses. One guy in Illinois even pointed me to the fact that his friend, Henry Meyer, had also played in Eau Claire. "Meyer" was too common of a name for me to research, so this was a great I wrote to Henry for the first time in around 2002. I asked if he would doan interview on tape for me and he graciously accepted. He was sharp as atack and more articulate and clear on the phone than probably 90% of the world. He sent me several photos from his playing days that would be used in my book. He dominated the Northern League in 1936, his only season in EauClaire, and actually set the single season RBI record that still stands (we had a guy named Hank Aaron come through here and he didn't come remotely close!). Henry parlayed that great season into a spring training invite with the Cubs at Catalina Island in 1937. He did fairly well there, too, butdidn't make the big league club. He kicked around a few more years in theminors, served his country in the Third Marine Division during WW2, and didn't play ball again after he returned home. We became friends through themail and through phone calls. Heck, we even exchanged Christmas cards every A couple of years ago, someone on Net54 posted a picture of a handful of mini pennants from his BF3 collection. BF3's are those mini-pennants issued at various times in the late 30s by a Chicago candy maker. He was interested in this particular grouping because they were players that hadn't playedin the majors. Within the grouping was one that read "Hank Meyer, Cubs, 1937". I had no idea this existed. I sent a picture to Henry. He had no idea it existed, either! He figured his performance on Catalina Island musthave been good enough that they wanted to include him in the set. He was never compensated for it (though, I suppose, it's not like they were using his image or anything so it's probably not that unusual). Late last year,someone else who had read that thread sent me a message to say he saw a Hank Meyer BF3 on eBay. BF3's aren't all that uncommon, but it sure seems like there aren't very many Hank Meyer examples out there. I was able to snag it cheaply. However, it had been a long time since I had heard from Henry. So long, in fact, that I could no longer find his phone number. The one I found online wasn't correct. I wrote him a note to see if he was interested in it. If he wasn't, I was hoping he would sign it for me for my owncollection. Weeks went by...nothing. Christmas came and went and I didn't get a card. I feared the worst. In late January, I received a letter from Henry. He had been at a rehabilitation/recovery facility and was feeling great, hopeful he would be home soon. He was really interested in the pennant, too. You couldn't have slapped the smile off of my face as I packed it up and sent it to him. It arrived on February 12th, the day after Henry came home. That night, I was at my son's basketball game when the phone rang. The number was an Illinois number--I was pretty sure I knew who it was. I thought about sending it to voicemail because the gym was loud, but decided to take it when I saw a quick exit to a quiet hallway. Henry sounded GREAT! Very clear and, like always, you could just hear his smile. He thanked me over and over again for the pennant. He then said, "I am so glad to have you as my friend." Those ten words made the pennant the most valuable collectible I've ever owned. We made plans to finally meet this summer--his place was only about 20 miles away from the site of the Chicago National. I decided I would try to touch base with a fellow from SABR who does outstanding original cards so I wouldn't come empty handed. That was my plan for this week. Sunday I received a call from Rich Meyer, Henry's son. Henry had passed away peacefully in his own bed on Saturday, February 21, surrounded by family. He would have been 98 this summer. Recovery had been going very well, but had taken a turn for the worse last week and everyone knew it wouldn't be long. Henry also knew his fate. He gave Rich the pennant that he had waited nearly 80 years for and owned for less than two weeks. He asked that Rich keep the pennant in the family as an heirloom. That little $10 pennant meant so much to him that it will be handed down in the family for generations. It's kind of amazing that these silly little pieces of cardboard (or, in Henry's case, felt) can have such an impact sometimes. Sorry for the long ramble. It was therapeuticfor me to write it all out! Jason C. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9177 - Release Date: 02/25/15 ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:07:43 -0600 To: "jschris@triwest.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item From: TJ Valacak Wow! What a great story Jason. How cool to find out almost 60 years later that you showed up on a pennant. Even cooler that you two were friends. Awesome Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:31 PM, "jschris@triwest.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Some of you folks may have seen this story on Net54, but I wanted to share this (with more detail) with my friends in OBC, too. It's long, so strapin (or skip to the next post...it's okay:)). > In the early 2000's, I was busy researching baseball in Eau Claire, WI. One of the things I did was to try to contact as many former Eau Claire ballplayers as I could find. I had experience writing to major leaguers thanks to the old Jack Smalling mailing lists, but finding career minor leaguerswas quite a chore. I focused on guys with less common names, looked on Yahoo for addresses, and basically sent a letter with a stamp and a prayer that this was the right person. I was actually fairly successful doing this and ended up with far more hits than misses. One guy in Illinois even pointed me to the fact that his friend, Henry Meyer, had also played in Eau Claire. "Meyer" was too common of a name for me to research, so this was a great > I wrote to Henry for the first time in around 2002. I asked if he would do an interview on tape for me and he graciously accepted. He was sharp asa tack and more articulate and clear on the phone than probably 90% of theworld. He sent me several photos from his playing days that would be usedin my book. He dominated the Northern League in 1936, his only season in Eau Claire, and actually set the single season RBI record that still stands (we had a guy named Hank Aaron come through here and he didn't come remotely close!). Henry parlayed that great season into a spring training invite with the Cubs at Catalina Island in 1937. He did fairly well there, too, but didn't make the big league club. He kicked around a few more years in the minors, served his country in the Third Marine Division during WW2, and didn't play ball again after he returned home. We became friends through the mail and through phone calls. Heck, we even exchanged Christmas cards every > A couple of years ago, someone on Net54 posted a picture of a handful of mini pennants from his BF3 collection. BF3's are those mini-pennants issued at various times in the late 30s by a Chicago candy maker. He was interested in this particular grouping because they were players that hadn't played in the majors. Within the grouping was one that read "Hank Meyer, Cubs,1937". I had no idea this existed. I sent a picture to Henry. He had noidea it existed, either! He figured his performance on Catalina Island must have been good enough that they wanted to include him in the set. He was never compensated for it (though, I suppose, it's not like they were using his image or anything so it's probably not that unusual). Late last year, someone else who had read that thread sent me a message to say he saw a Hank Meyer BF3 on eBay. BF3's aren't all that uncommon, but it sure seems like there aren't very many Hank Meyer examples out there. I was able to snag it cheaply. However, it had been a long time since I had heard from Henry. So long, in fact, that I could no longer find his phone number. The one I found online wasn't correct. I wrote him a note to see if he was interested in it. If he wasn't, I was hoping he would sign it for me for my own > Weeks went by...nothing. Christmas came and went and I didn't get a card. I feared the worst. > In late January, I received a letter from Henry. He had been at a rehabilitation/recovery facility and was feeling great, hopeful he would be home soon. He was really interested in the pennant, too. You couldn't have slapped the smile off of my face as I packed it up and sent it to him. It arrived on February 12th, the day after Henry came home. That night, I was atmy son's basketball game when the phone rang. The number was an Illinois number--I was pretty sure I knew who it was. I thought about sending it tovoicemail because the gym was loud, but decided to take it when I saw a quick exit to a quiet hallway. > Henry sounded GREAT! Very clear and, like always, you could just hear his smile. He thanked me over and over again for the pennant. He then said,"I am so glad to have you as my friend." Those ten words made the pennantthe most valuable collectible I've ever owned. We made plans to finally meet this summer--his place was only about 20 miles away from the site of the Chicago National. I decided I would try to touch base with a fellow fromSABR who does outstanding original cards so I wouldn't come empty handed. That was my plan for this week. > Sunday I received a call from Rich Meyer, Henry's son. Henry had passed away peacefully in his own bed on Saturday, February 21, surrounded by family. He would have been 98 this summer. Recovery had been going very well,but had taken a turn for the worse last week and everyone knew it wouldn'tbe long. Henry also knew his fate. He gave Rich the pennant that he had waited nearly 80 years for and owned for less than two weeks. He asked that Rich keep the pennant in the family as an heirloom. That little $10 pennant meant so much to him that it will be handed down in the family for generations. It's kind of amazing that these silly little pieces of cardboard (or, in Henry's case, felt) can have such an impact sometimes. > Sorry for the long ramble. It was therapeuticfor me to write it all out! > Jason C. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:29:55 -0500 To: "jschris@triwest.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item From: Doug I nominate this for the Best Ramble of the Year category - thanks for sharing! Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:31 PM, "jschris@triwest.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > Some of you folks may have seen this story on Net54, but I wanted to share this (with more detail) with my friends in OBC, too. It's long, so strapin (or skip to the next post...it's okay:)). > In the early 2000's, I was busy researching baseball in Eau Claire, WI. One of the things I did was to try to contact as many former Eau Claire ballplayers as I could find. I had experience writing to major leaguers thanks to the old Jack Smalling mailing lists, but finding career minor leaguerswas quite a chore. I focused on guys with less common names, looked on Yahoo for addresses, and basically sent a letter with a stamp and a prayer that this was the right person. I was actually fairly successful doing this and ended up with far more hits than misses. One guy in Illinois even pointed me to the fact that his friend, Henry Meyer, had also played in Eau Claire. "Meyer" was too common of a name for me to research, so this was a great > I wrote to Henry for the first time in around 2002. I asked if he would do an interview on tape for me and he graciously accepted. He was sharp asa tack and more articulate and clear on the phone than probably 90% of theworld. He sent me several photos from his playing days that would be usedin my book. He dominated the Northern League in 1936, his only season in Eau Claire, and actually set the single season RBI record that still stands (we had a guy named Hank Aaron come through here and he didn't come remotely close!). Henry parlayed that great season into a spring training invite with the Cubs at Catalina Island in 1937. He did fairly well there, too, but didn't make the big league club. He kicked around a few more years in the minors, served his country in the Third Marine Division during WW2, and didn't play ball again after he returned home. We became friends through the mail and through phone calls. Heck, we even exchanged Christmas cards every > A couple of years ago, someone on Net54 posted a picture of a handful of mini pennants from his BF3 collection. BF3's are those mini-pennants issued at various times in the late 30s by a Chicago candy maker. He was interested in this particular grouping because they were players that hadn't played in the majors. Within the grouping was one that read "Hank Meyer, Cubs,1937". I had no idea this existed. I sent a picture to Henry. He had noidea it existed, either! He figured his performance on Catalina Island must have been good enough that they wanted to include him in the set. He was never compensated for it (though, I suppose, it's not like they were using his image or anything so it's probably not that unusual). Late last year, someone else who had read that thread sent me a message to say he saw a Hank Meyer BF3 on eBay. BF3's aren't all that uncommon, but it sure seems like there aren't very many Hank Meyer examples out there. I was able to snag it cheaply. However, it had been a long time since I had heard from Henry. So long, in fact, that I could no longer find his phone number. The one I found online wasn't correct. I wrote him a note to see if he was interested in it. If he wasn't, I was hoping he would sign it for me for my own > Weeks went by...nothing. Christmas came and went and I didn't get a card. I feared the worst. > In late January, I received a letter from Henry. He had been at a rehabilitation/recovery facility and was feeling great, hopeful he would be home soon. He was really interested in the pennant, too. You couldn't have slapped the smile off of my face as I packed it up and sent it to him. It arrived on February 12th, the day after Henry came home. That night, I was atmy son's basketball game when the phone rang. The number was an Illinois number--I was pretty sure I knew who it was. I thought about sending it tovoicemail because the gym was loud, but decided to take it when I saw a quick exit to a quiet hallway. > Henry sounded GREAT! Very clear and, like always, you could just hear his smile. He thanked me over and over again for the pennant. He then said,"I am so glad to have you as my friend." Those ten words made the pennantthe most valuable collectible I've ever owned. We made plans to finally meet this summer--his place was only about 20 miles away from the site of the Chicago National. I decided I would try to touch base with a fellow fromSABR who does outstanding original cards so I wouldn't come empty handed. That was my plan for this week. > Sunday I received a call from Rich Meyer, Henry's son. Henry had passed away peacefully in his own bed on Saturday, February 21, surrounded by family. He would have been 98 this summer. Recovery had been going very well,but had taken a turn for the worse last week and everyone knew it wouldn'tbe long. Henry also knew his fate. He gave Rich the pennant that he had waited nearly 80 years for and owned for less than two weeks. He asked that Rich keep the pennant in the family as an heirloom. That little $10 pennant meant so much to him that it will be handed down in the family for generations. It's kind of amazing that these silly little pieces of cardboard (or, in Henry's case, felt) can have such an impact sometimes. > Sorry for the long ramble. It was therapeuticfor me to write it all out! > Jason C. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:43:37 -0500 To: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item From: Robert Fitts Great story! On Feb 25, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I nominate this for the Best Ramble of the Year category - thanks for sharing! > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:31 PM, "jschris@triwest.net [OBC-Ramblings]" >> Some of you folks may have seen this story on Net54, but I wanted to share this (with more detail) with my friends in OBC, too. It's long, so strap in (or skip to the next post...it's okay:)). >> In the early 2000's, I was busy researching baseball in Eau Claire, WI. One of the things I did was to try to contact as many former Eau Claire ballplayers as I could find. I had experience writing to major leaguers thanks to the old Jack Smalling mailing lists, but finding career minor leaguers was quite a chore. I focused on guys with less common names, looked on Yahoo for addresses, and basically sent a letter with a stamp and a prayer that this was the right person. I was actually fairly successful doing thisand ended up with far more hits than misses. One guy in Illinois even pointed me to the fact that his friend, Henry Meyer, had also played in Eau Claire. "Meyer" was too common of a name for me to research, so this was a great >> I wrote to Henry for the first time in around 2002. I asked if he woulddo an interview on tape for me and he graciously accepted. He was sharp as a tack and more articulate and clear on the phone than probably 90% of the world. He sent me several photos from his playing days that would be used in my book. He dominated the Northern League in 1936, his only season in Eau Claire, and actually set the single season RBI record that still stands(we had a guy named Hank Aaron come through here and he didn't come remotely close!). Henry parlayed that great season into a spring training invitewith the Cubs at Catalina Island in 1937. He did fairly well there, too, but didn't make the big league club. He kicked around a few more years in the minors, served his country in the Third Marine Division during WW2, anddidn't play ball again after he returned home. We became friends through the mail and through phone calls. Heck, we even exchanged Christmas cards every >> A couple of years ago, someone on Net54 posted a picture of a handful ofmini pennants from his BF3 collection. BF3's are those mini-pennants issued at various times in the late 30s by a Chicago candy maker. He was interested in this particular grouping because they were players that hadn't played in the majors. Within the grouping was one that read "Hank Meyer, Cubs, 1937". I had no idea this existed. I sent a picture to Henry. He had no idea it existed, either! He figured his performance on Catalina Island must have been good enough that they wanted to include him in the set. He was never compensated for it (though, I suppose, it's not like they were using his image or anything so it's probably not that unusual). Late last year, someone else who had read that thread sent me a message to say he saw aHank Meyer BF3 on eBay. BF3's aren't all that uncommon, but it sure seemslike there aren't very many Hank Meyer examples out there. I was able to snag it cheaply. However, it had been a long time since I had heard from Henry. So long, in fact, that I could no longer find his phone number. Theone I found online wasn't correct. I wrote him a note to see if he was interested in it. If he wasn't, I was hoping he would sign it for me for my own >> Weeks went by...nothing. Christmas came and went and I didn't get a card. I feared the worst. >> In late January, I received a letter from Henry. He had been at a rehabilitation/recovery facility and was feeling great, hopeful he would be homesoon. He was really interested in the pennant, too. You couldn't have slapped the smile off of my face as I packed it up and sent it to him. It arrived on February 12th, the day after Henry came home. That night, I was at my son's basketball game when the phone rang. The number was an Illinoisnumber--I was pretty sure I knew who it was. I thought about sending it to voicemail because the gym was loud, but decided to take it when I saw a quick exit to a quiet hallway. >> Henry sounded GREAT! Very clear and, like always, you could just hear his smile. He thanked me over and over again for the pennant. He then said, "I am so glad to have you as my friend." Those ten words made the pennant the most valuable collectible I've ever owned. We made plans to finally meet this summer--his place was only about 20 miles away from the site of the Chicago National. I decided I would try to touch base with a fellow from SABR who does outstanding original cards so I wouldn't come empty handed.That was my plan for this week. >> Sunday I received a call from Rich Meyer, Henry's son. Henry had passedaway peacefully in his own bed on Saturday, February 21, surrounded by family. He would have been 98 this summer. Recovery had been going very well, but had taken a turn for the worse last week and everyone knew it wouldn't be long. Henry also knew his fate. He gave Rich the pennant that he hadwaited nearly 80 years for and owned for less than two weeks. He asked that Rich keep the pennant in the family as an heirloom. That little $10 pennant meant so much to him that it will be handed down in the family for generations. It's kind of amazing that these silly little pieces of cardboard(or, in Henry's case, felt) can have such an impact sometimes. >> Sorry for the long ramble. It was therapeuticfor me to write it all out! >> Jason C. ================= Date: 25 Feb 2015 17:46:05 -0800 To: Subject: my latest proud score From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:53:59 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update From: joe8941@aol.com Love a good baseball movie conversation, here are my votes. 1. Bull Durham 2. Field of Dreams 3. The Natural 4. Major League 5. The Sandlot 6. Eight Men Out 7. For Love of the Game 8. A League of Their Own 9. The Bad News Bears(original) 10. Fever Pitch(Though I wonder how non Sox fans feel about it) Lot of good flicks that didn't make the cut.... Out of the country at the moment but looking forward to seeing the results of this next time I check email! Joe Adriance Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 'George Vrechek' vrechek We are right in the middle of the OBC awards season with votes being tallied for the top 10 baseball movies of all time. Winners will be announced Saturday. You might ask (although no one actually has), how do you =E2=9Ctally=E2=9D such scoring, and how is Vrechek making any money on this endeavor. Well, Vrechek has not figured out how to make any money on this endeavor, but I can tell you something about the =E2=9Ctallying.=E2=9D I thought I would assign 10 points to someone=E2=99s first place vote, 9for second place, etc, and then add up all the points and rank them. I then thought it would be interesting to see how the Oscars are awarded. I found that the process is actually rather complicated with multiple rounds of elimination and nominations. However, they are trying to pick just one movieand not rank 10 movies. Via Wikipedia I then found the Mod ified Borda Count which (I am not makingthis up) is used =E2=9Cto elect members of the Parliament of Nauru and two ethnic minority members of the National Assembly of Slovenia, and in modified forms for apportionment of all seats in the Icelandic parliamentary elections, and for selecting presidential election candidates in Kiribati.=E2=9D Well, heck, Vrechek is Slovenian as is Anze Kopitar, Goran Dragic, and Tina Maze, therefore this seemed like a pretty good system. Unfortunately, the system seemed a little too complicated and didn=E2=99t look like it would produce any different results than I was getting, so I=E2=99m back to the 10,9, 8 approach. I hinted that we might go on to other sports after baseball. Thinking aboutthe movies in other categories, I felt that they get pretty lame after thetop few movies and enthusiasm for voting wound wane after a while. I also thought it would be interesting to see how movies about other sports would stack up against baseball movies. Therefore, instead of lists for each sport, next week I=E2=99m going to have a top 10 list for all sports movies.You will have a chance again to rank your favorite baseball movies as wellas those in all other sports. Movies that come to mind include Rocky, Raging Bull, Hoosiers, Rudy, Slapshot, The Hustler, Breaking Away, Chariots of Fire, Thanks for the humorous and insightful gratuitous comments with the movie choices. It is also interesting to see that voting is influenced by the age of the movie and the age of the voters. =E2=9CThe Babe Comes Home=E2=9D is a silent movie from 1927 featuring Babe Ruth. However no one was around to see it in 1927 and it hasn=E2=99t been on TV so it got zero votes. The Jackie Robinson movie =E2=9C42=E2=9D is recent and received several Get those final votes in and I=E2=99ll let you know who is elected to the Slovenian National Assembly on Saturday. 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There are also the old movies that were "edited for television" variations :-) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2015 1:17:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Just noticed the disclaimer at the bottom of all of the "Ramblings" Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouraged on Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGS server, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home pageor directly at _www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html_ (http://www.oldbas%20eball.com/obcroc.html) ...Does this mean that all movies prior to 1980 need to be discussed on the UV Server? If that is the case, then George may be forced to use the Modified Borda Count to equally assess movies made before and after 1980. With that in mind, here are my Top Ten: Post 1980: 1. Field of Dreams 2. Bull Durham 3. Moneyball 4. F ever Pitch 5. Major League 6. The Sandlot 7. For Love of the Game 8. Cobb 9. The Natural 10. 42 Pre 1980: 1. Bad News Bears (the original with Matthau was made in 1976) 2. The Stratton Story (any movie with Jimmy Stewart is a classic...) 3. Bang the Drum Slowly (DeNiro as a kid!) 4. Pride of St.Louis 5. Pride of the Yankees 6. It Happens Every Spring 7. Fear Strikes Out 8. Damn Yankees (only because I can't think of another, but I hate 9+ ...I've never seen any others that I know of, or at least remember from that era, but probably Mike Rich or Sal know of some damn "variations" of movies made back then, but that's for another server... Sam Taylor On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:20 AM, 'Bob Donaldson' _obcbobd@gmail.com_ (mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ra mblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Did anyone vote for Cobb with that guy who was in men in black (not Will Smith). Interesting movie although not my top 10 From: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:_OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) ] On Behalf Of 'George Vrechek' _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:10 AM To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movie Oscar Update We are right in the middle of the OBC awards season with votes being tallied for the top 10 baseball movies of all time. Winners will be announced Saturday. You might ask (although no one actually has), how do you =E2=9Ctally=E2=9D such scoring, and how is Vrechek making any money on this endeavor. Well, Vrechek has not figured out how to make any money on this endeavor, but I can tell you something about the =E2=9Ctallying.=E2=9D I thought I would assign 10 points to someone=E2=99s first place vote, 9 second place, etc, and then add up all the points and rank them. I then thought it would be interesting to see how the Oscars are awarded. I foundthat the process is actually rather complicated with multiple rounds of elimination and nominations. However, they are trying to pick just one movie not rank 10 movies. Via Wikipedia I then found the Modified Borda Count which (I am not making this up) is used =E2=9Cto elect members of the _Parliament of Nauru_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Nauru) and two ethnic minoritymembers of the _National Assembly of Slovenia_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Assembly_of_Slovenia) , and in modified forms for apportionment of all seats in the _Icelandic parliamentary elections_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_parliamentary_election,_2013#Constituencies) , and for selecting presidential election candidates in _Kiribati_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiribati) .=E2=9D Well, heck, Vrechek is Slovenian as is Anze Kopitar, Goran Dragic, and Tina Maze, therefore this seemed like a pretty good system. Unfortunately, the system seemed a little too complicated and didn=E2=99t look like it would produce any different results than I was getting, so I=E2=99m back the 10,9, 8 approach. I hinted that we might go on to other sports after baseball. Thinking about the movies in other categories, I felt that they get pretty lame after the top few movies and enthusiasm for voting wound wane after a while. I also thought it would be interesting to see how movies about other s ports would stack up against baseball movies. Therefore, instead of lists for each sport, next week I=E2=99m going to have a top 10 list for all sports movies. will have a chance again to rank your favorite baseball movies as well as those in all other sports. Movies that come to mind include Rocky, Raging Bull, Hoosiers, Rudy, Slapshot, The Hustler, Breaking Away, Chariots of Fire, Thanks for the humorous and insightful gratuitous comments with the movie choices. It is also interesting to see that voting is influenced by the age of the movie and the age of the voters. =E2=9CThe Babe Comes Home=E2=9D is a silent movie from 1927 featuring Babe Ruth. However no one was around to see it in 1927 and it hasn=E2=99t been on TV so it got zero votes. The Jackie Robinson movie =E2=9C42=E2=9D is recent and received several votes. Get those final votes in and I=E2=99ll let you know who is elect ed to the Slovenian National Assembly on Saturday. George Vrechek (the entire rules committee) No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4299/9177 - Release Date: 02/25/15 Sam Taylor ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:21:10 -0500 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] maybe i should come From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en The answer to all your questions is YES! Yes you need to come. Yes, some guys come just for a day or two. Yes, Saturday is the best day because of the swap. Yes, you will be sure to meet at least a bunch of OBCers no matter what day you show up. Yes, Chicago is a great place to go on vacation with your family (This is the one I show up Sat or Sunday for, usually with Kent and his clan to take in the sites on Monday or Tuesday). Yes, your best bet is to contact me from the roster I put out when you get in town. Yes, its a big show so bring comfortable sneakers. Yes it takes over 1 day to get through it all. Yes, we will have a listing of where all the OBC dealers are parked. Yes, we will show you around. Yes, Steve really was on TV last year. And finally, Yes, you may wind up starting the 62 green tints. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2015 1:20:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Make it 6 times now. Get up here for the National! Even for just one day, it's worth it. Meeting up with fellow OBCers will not be a problem. The problem will be trying to get through the show and see everything. Swap session Saturday night is the absolute best. Not sure if you can hang around that long, but it's a great night. Get up here! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "_uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-NATIONAL]" <_OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I have never been to the NATIONAL before. In fact, I haven't been to a card show since the early 90's. Back when every. single. card. went straight from the pack to the Beckett price guide. Back when Beckett could update the prices daily if they wanted to. Back when... Yeah. Here I am, working out what my youth ministry's summer schedule is going to look like, and somehow, after it is all laid out, that week looks to be open. Open enough for me and the family to maybe visit some friends up in the NW Indiana area for a couple-three days maybe. And maybe come over to a show once or twice? I wouldn't be taking Sunday off, so it looks like Friday and/or Saturday would be my possible days in attendance. But I don't know. Do a lot of OBC people go for only one day? What's my best bet for meeting up with some of you? Are there certain days I should shoot for if I want to accomplish different things? A particular OBC-friendly dealer that is only there on x day or something? Etc. I guess I'm starting the conversation. After TJ has told me probably 5 times I should go, I may actually go. Now help a noob out! Thanks for any input ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:31:18 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en OUTSTANDING story. Sometimes you think about things. Maybe he stayed around extra just because the Big Guy wanted him to see that pennant. It was "in the cards". The ending is sad, but in a way very uplifting. You helped bring him back to a time of his own dreams and aspirations. I can imagine all the cool things that went through his mind when you spoke with him. Great memories are a wonderful thing. You helped him relive some, he gave you a great memory to cherish. Kinda like OBC... I have memories of this group that will last my lifetime! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2015 4:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Some of you folks may have seen this story on Net54, but I wanted to share this (with more detail) with my friends in OBC, too. It's long, so strap in (or skip to the next post...it's okay:)). In the early 2000's, I was busy researching baseball in Eau Claire, WI. One of the things I did was to try to contact as many former Eau Claire ballplayers as I could find. I had experience writing to major leaguers thanks to the old Jack Smalling mailing lists, but finding career minor leaguers was quite a chore. I focused on guys with less common names, looked on Yahoo for addresses, and basically sent a letter with a stamp and a prayer that this was the right person. I was actually fairly successful doing this and ended up with far more hits than misses. One guy in Illinois even pointed me to the fact that his friend, Henry Meyer, had also played in Eau Claire. "Mey er" was too common of a name for me to research, so this wasa great find! I wrote to Henry for the first time in around 2002. I asked if he would do an interview on tape for me and he graciously accepted. He was sharp as a tack and more articulate and clear on the phone than probably 90% of the world. He sent me several photos from his playing days that would be used in my book. He dominated the Northern League in 1936, his only season in Eau Claire, and actually set the single season RBI record that still stands (we had a guy named Hank Aaron come through here and he didn't come remotely close!). Henry parlayed that great season into a spring training invite with the Cubs at Catalina Island in 1937. He did fairly well there, too, but didn't make the big league club. He kicked around a few more years in the minors, served his country in the Third Marine Division during WW2, and didn& #39;t play ball again after he returned home. We became friends through the mail and through phone calls. Heck, we even exchanged Christmas cards every year. A couple of years ago, someone on Net54 posted a picture of a handful of mini pennants from his BF3 collection. BF3's are those mini-pennants issued at various times in the late 30s by a Chicago candy maker. He was interested in this particular grouping because they were players that hadn't played in the majors. Within the grouping was one that read "Hank Meyer, Cubs, 1937". I had no idea this existed. I sent a picture to Henry. He had no idea it existed, either! He figured his performance on Catalina Island must have been good enough that they wanted to include him in the set. Hewas never compensated for it (though, I suppose, it's not like they were using his image or anything so it's proba bly not that unusual). Late last year, someone else who had read that thread sent me a message to say he saw Hank Meyer BF3 on eBay. BF3's aren't all that uncommon, but it sure seems like there aren't very many Hank Meyer examples out there. I was able to snag it cheaply. However, it had been a long time since I had heard from Henry. So long, in fact, that I could no longer find his phone number. The one I found online wasn't correct. I wrote him a note to see if he was interested in it. If he wasn't, I was hoping he would sign it for me for my own collection. Weeks went by...nothing. Christmas came and went and I didn't get a card. I feared the worst. In late January, I received a letter fr om Henry. He had been at a rehabilitation/recovery facility and was feeling great, hopeful he would be soon. He was really interested in the pennant, too. You couldn't have slapped the smile off of my face as I packed it up and sent it to him. It arrived on February 12th, the day after Henry came home. That night, I was my son's basketball game when the phone rang. The number was an Illinois number--I was pretty sure I knew who it was. I thought about sending it to voicemail because the gym was loud, but decided to take it when I saw a quick exit to a quiet hallway. Henry sounded GREAT! Very clear and, like always, you could just hear his smile. He thanked me over and over again for the pennant. He then said, "I am so glad to have you as my friend." Those ten words made the penn ant the most valuable collectible I've ever owned. We made plans to finally meet this summer--his place was only about 20 miles away from the site of the Chicago National. I decided I would try to touch base with a fellow from SABR who does outstanding original cards so I wouldn't come empty handed. That was my plan for this week. Sunday I received a call from Rich Meyer, Henry's son. Henry had passed away peacefully in his own bed on Saturday, February 21, surrounded by family. He would have been 98 this summer. Recovery had been going very well, but had taken a turn for the worse last week and everyone knew it wouldn't be long. Henry also knew his fate. He gave Rich the pennant that he had waited nearly 80 years for and owned for less than two weeks. He asked that Rich keep the pennant in the family as an heirloom. That little $10 pennant meant so much to him that it will be handed down in the family for generations. It's kind of amazing that these silly little pieces of cardboard (or, in Henry's case, felt) can have such an impact sometimes. Sorry for the long ramble. It was therapeuticfor me to write it all out! Jason C. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:46:11 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-NATIONAL] maybe i should come From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Hey Al, Yes, it's in socal this year, so with that in mind, your directions should take you straight to all of us in Chicago! Mine was in 2002. Some have seen earlier ones. My first OBC meeting was in Fort Washington (yeah very close to where you live, only 3000 miles from your house) around 1997. Time for you to pack up and start heading out to meet us. We heard Greg from Cameo cards is starting to make the dealer rounds again. Bring your jersey, you can watch his booth! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 From: alcattle@yahoo.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 2/25/2015 10:28:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] maybe i should come When was the first OBC national meeting? I'm thinking about coming since it is in SoCal this year Big Al Sent from my house iPhone On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:21 PM, _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) [OBC-NATIONAL] <_OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: The answer to all your questions is YES! Yes you need to come. Yes, some guys come just for a day or two. Yes, Saturday is the best day because of the swap. Yes, you will be sure to meet at least a bunch of OBCers no matter what day you show up. Yes, Chicago is a great place to go on vacation with your family (This is the one I show up Sat or Sunday for, usually with Kent and his clan to take in the sites on Monday or Tuesday). Yes, your best bet is to contact me from the roster I put out when you get in town. Yes, its a big show so bring comfortable sneakers. Yes it takes over 1 day to get through it all. Yes, we will have a listing of where all the OBC dealers are parked. Yes, we will show you around. Yes, Steve really was on TV last year. And finally, Yes, you may wind up starting the 62 green tints. Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/25/2015 1:20:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com) Make it 6 times now. Get up here for the National! Even for just one day, it's worth it. Meeting up with fellow OBCers will not be a problem. The problem will be trying to get through the show and see everything. Swap session Saturday night is the absolute best. Not sure if you can hang around that long, but it's a great night. Get up here! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "_uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-NATIONAL]" <_OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I have never been to the NATIONAL before. In fact, I haven't been to a card show since the early 90's. Back when every. single. card. went straight from the pack to the Beckett price guide. Back when Beckett could update the prices daily if they wanted to. Back when... Yeah. Here I am, working out what my youth ministry's summer schedule is going to look like, and somehow, after it is all laid out, that week looks to be open. Open enough for me and the family to maybe visit some friends up in the NW Indiana area for a couple-three days maybe. And maybe come over to a show once or twice? I wouldn't be taking Sunday off, so it looks like Friday and/or Saturday would be my possible days in attendance. But I don't know. Do a lot of OBC people go for only one day? What's my best bet for meeting up with some of you? Are there certain days I should shoot for if I want to accomplish different things? A particular OBC-friendly dealer that is only there on x day or something? Etc. I guess I'm starting the conversation. After TJ has told me probably 5 times I should go, I may actually go. Now help a noob out! Thanks for any input ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:58:32 -0500 To: robertfitts@verizon.net, ddejong17@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Sounds like fulfilling a dying mans last wish! Well done. Mike RIch -----Original Message----- From: Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Doug Cc: Christophersons ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Feb 25, 2015 8:45 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Most valuable baseball item Great story! On Feb 25, 2015, at 8:29 PM, Doug ddejong17@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I nominate this for the Best Ramble of the Year category - thanks for sharing! Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:31 PM, " jsc hris@triwest.net [OBC-Ramblings]" < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Some of you folks may have seen this story on Net54, but I wanted to share this (with more detail) with my friends in OBC, too. It's long, so strap in (or skip to the next post...it's okay:)). In the early 2000's, I was busy researching baseball in Eau Claire, WI. One of the things I did was to try to contact as many former Eau Claire ballplayers as I could find. I had experience writing to major leaguers than ksto the old Jack Smalling mailing lists, but finding career minor leaguers was quite a chore. I focused on guys with less common names, looked on Yahoo for addresses, and basically sent a letter with a stamp and a prayer that this was the right person. I was actually fairly successful doing this and ended up with far more hits than misses. One guy in Illinois even pointed me to the fact that his friend, Henry Meyer, had also played in Eau Claire. "Meyer" was too common of a name for me to research, so this was a great I wrote to Henry for the first time in around 2002. I asked if he would doan interview on tape for me and he graciously accepted. He was sharp as atack and more articulate and clear on the phone than probably 90% of the world. He sent me several photos from his playing days that would be used in my book. He dom inated the Northern League in 1936, his only season in Eau Claire, and actually set the single season RBI record that still stands (we had a guy named Hank Aaron come through here and he didn't come remotelyclose!). Henry parlayed that great season into a spring training invite with the Cubs at Catalina Island in 1937. He did fairly well there, too, but didn't make the big league club. He kicked around a few more years in the minors, served his country in the Third Marine Division during WW2, and didn't play ball again after he returned home. We became friends through the mail and through phone calls. Heck, we even exchanged Christmas cards every A couple of years ago, someone on Net54 posted a picture of a handful of mini pennants from his BF3 collection. BF3's are those mini-pennants issued at various times in the late 30s by a Chi cago candy maker. He was interested in this particular grouping because they were players that hadn't played in the majors. Within the grouping was one that read "Hank Meyer, Cubs, 1937". I had no idea this existed. I sent a picture to Henry. He had no idea it existed, either! He figured his performance on Catalina Island must have been good enough that they wanted to include him in the set. He wasnever compensated for it (though, I suppose, it's not like they were usinghis image or anything so it's probably not that unusual). Late last year, someone else who had read that thread sent me a message to say he saw a Hank Meyer BF3 on eBay. BF3's aren't all that uncommon, but it sure seems like there aren't very many Hank Meyer examples out there. I was able to snag it cheaply. However, it had been a long time since I had heard from Henry. So long, in fact, that I could no longer find his phone number. &n bsp;The one I found online wasn't correct. I wrote him a note to see if he was interested in it. If he wasn't, I was hoping he would sign it for me formy own collection. Weeks went by...nothing. Christmas came and went and I didn't get a card. I feared the worst. In late January, I received a letter from Henry. He had been at a rehabilitation/recovery facility and was feeling great, hopeful he would be home soon. He was really interested in the pennant, too. You couldn't have slapped the smile off of my face as I packed it up and sent it to him. It arrived on February 12th, the day after Henry came home. That night, I was at my son's basketball game when the phone rang. The number was an Illinois number--I was pretty sure I knew who it was. I thought about sending it to voicemail because the gym was loud, but decided to take it when I saw a quick exit to a quiet hallway. Henry sounded GREAT! Very clear and, like always, you could just hear his smile. He thanked me over and over again for the pennant. He then said, "I am so glad to have you as my friend." Those ten words made the pennant the most valuable collectible I've ever owned. We made plans to finally meet this summer--his place was only about 20 miles away from the site of the Chicago National. I decided I would try to touch base with a fellow from SABR who does outstanding original cards so I wouldn't com e empty handed. That was my plan for this week. Sunday I received a call from Rich Meyer, Henry's son. Henry had passed away peacefully in his own bed on Saturday, February 21, surrounded by family. He would have been 98 this summer. Recovery had been going very well, but had taken a turn for the worse last week and everyone knew it wouldn't be long. Henry also knew his fate. He gave Rich the pennant that he had waited nearly 80 years for and owned for less than two weeks. He asked that Rich keep the pennant in the family as an heirloom. That little $10 pennant meant so much to him that it will be handed down in the family for generations. It's kind of amazing that these silly little pieces of cardboard (or, in Henry's case, felt) can have such an impact sometimes . Sorry for the long ramble. It was therapeuticfor me to write it all out! Jason C. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:16:44 -0600 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-NATIONAL] maybe i should come From: Nick Absolutely you should go to a national of you can make it. I attended my first national three years ago in Baltimore. I could only make it for Wednesday's preview and Thursday. I had so much fun I couldn't wait until Chicago 2013 and Cleveland 2014. I've been counting down to Chicago 2015 for longer than Id like to admit. Even the f you can only make Wednesday's preview for four hours it's worth it. Meeting up with the OBC'ers always makes it worth it. Best pieces of advice I can give you is GO! Use the preferred dealers list that is out every national. Don't be afraid to leave your wallet in your pocket. You'll see a lot of stuff you like, don't blow the entire budget in the first five minutes. Watch out for guys like Sal, Tom, and Sal who might start you on green tints. Go! Absolutely worth it. Nick pelletier Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:21 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-NATIONAL] > The answer to all your questions is YES! Yes you need to come. Yes, some guys come just for a day or two. Yes, Saturday is the best day because of the swap. Yes, you will be sure to meet at least a bunch of OBCers no matterwhat day you show up. Yes, Chicago is a great place to go on vacation withyour family (This is the one I show up Sat or Sunday for, usually with Kent and his clan to take in the sites on Monday or Tuesday). Yes, your best bet is to contact me from the roster I put out when you get in town. Yes, its a big show so bring comfortable sneakers. Yes it takes over 1 day to get through it all. Yes, we will have a listing of where all the OBC dealers are parked. Yes, we will show you around. Yes, Steve really was on TV last year. And finally, Yes, you may wind up starting the 62 green tints. > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 2/25/2015 1:20:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-NATIONAL-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Make it 6 times now. Get up here for the National! Even for just one day, it's worth it. Meeting up with fellow OBCers will not be a problem. The problem will be trying to get through the show and see everything. > Swap session Saturday night is the absolute best. Not sure if you can hang around that long, but it's a great night. Get up here! > TJ > Sent from my iPhone >> On Feb 25, 2015, at 12:08 PM, "uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-NATIONAL]" >> I have never been to the NATIONAL before. In fact, I haven't been to a card show since the early 90's. Back when every. single. card. went straightfrom the pack to the Beckett price guide. Back when Beckett could update the prices daily if they wanted to. Back when... Yeah. >> SO! >> Here I am, working out what my youth ministry's summer schedule is goingto look like, and somehow, after it is all laid out, that week looks to beopen. Open enough for me and the family to maybe visit some friends up in the NW Indiana area for a couple-three days maybe. And maybe come over to ashow once or twice? I wouldn't be taking Sunday off, so it looks like Friday and/or Saturday would be my possible days in attendance. But I don't know. >> Do a lot of OBC people go for only one day? What's my best bet for meeting up with some of you? Are there certain days I should shoot for if I wantto accomplish different things? A particular OBC-friendly dealer that is only there on x day or something? Etc. >> I guess I'm starting the conversation. After TJ has told me probably 5 times I should go, I may actually go. Now help a noob out! >> Thanks for any input >> Aaron ================= Date: 26 Feb 2015 08:31:30 -0800 To: Subject: a note about the NATIONAL and the OBC YEAR PROJECT From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:14:57 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Vacationing in Florida and Tennessee... From: Kent I'm heading down to Florida for two weeks via Orlando, Miami, and Jupiter and Memphis, Tn at the end of March and first week of April.. Anybody wishing to meet up let me know. Any card shops recommended in Florida let me know, too. I will also be attending some St. Louis Cardinal spring training games. ================= Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 16:47:41 -0800 To: OBC ramblings Subject: brad chambers From: John Dahms anybody tell me about brad chambers? he emailed me about a trade and said he belonged to OBC back in the day, so I thought I would ask if any of youremember him when he was a member and if any of you are dealing with him now? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:44:21 -0500 To: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] brad chambers From: Anthony I have in the past and also most recently. Always went well. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] > anybody tell me about brad chambers? he emailed me about a trade and saidhe belonged to OBC back in the day, so I thought I would ask if any of youremember him when he was a member and if any of you are dealing with him now? > thanks > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 06:40:34 -0500 To: anthony.senthi@gmail.com, jd3681@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] brad chambers From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Brad was living in Michigan for a while. Mark Talbot and I were able to get together with him for dinner. Nice guy, but he does have a tough list if I recall, mainly due to condition requirements. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Anthony anthony.senthi@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: John Dahms Cc: OBC ramblings Sent: Thu, Feb 26, 2015 9:44 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] brad chambers I have in the past and also most recently. Always went well. Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:47 PM, John Dahms jd3681@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: anybody tell me about brad chambers? he emailed me about a trade and said he belonged to OBC back in the day, so I thought I would ask if any of you remember him when he was a member and if any of you are dealing with him now? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:32:49 -0500 Subject: Heading to the Charlotte show on Saturday From: Taylor Schock I'm planning on heading to the Charlotte show on Saturday (tomorrow). Firsttime going to that one but I thought what the heck, let's see what it's like. I need a mini road trip after a crazy couple of weeks at work anyway. If anyone else is thinking of going and want to meet up, let me know. Show details at - http://www.insidepitchpromotions.com/index.htm ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:57:22 -0500 Subject: 1977 Mets Old Timers Day From: Shawn Smart looking forward to sitting and watching this over the weekend... https://www.youtube.com/watch?vRq3Sxaw-bYU ================= Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:40:15 -0500 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, shawnsmart@hotmail.com, Subject: Mets Old Timers Days From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en At age 11, my father took me and my brothers to the very first Mets Old Timers Day at the Polo Grounds. Even at such a tender age, I wondered how a team in its first year had any Old Timers at all! This has since been explained on _www.baseball-fever.com_ (http://www.baseball-fever.com) as: "the date of the 1st mets oldtimers game was JULY 14 1962 it was a rematch of the 1951 dodgers vs 1951 giants playoff series. IT was held before the regular season dodgers vs mets game and it was only 2 innings long. BY THE WAY in the regular season game the LA DODGERS won big 17-3 over the NY METS" I sat in the upper deck down the right field line and remember tossing a paper airplane at Mets rightfielder Richie Ashburn (and hitting, or nearly hitting him). I was afraid that I would be ejected from the ballpark as a My other vivid memory was of a Willie Davis line drive home run pulled down the line near where I was sitting. These memories are somewhat substantiated by the box score from that game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN196207140.shtml Amazing how childhood experiences are indelibly imprinted on our brains. I may have the scorecard from that day up in my attic. Will have to look for it one day. BR, In a message dated 02/27/2015 2:39:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I have been looking for years for a program (or anything else) for a 1966 Mets oldtimers game? Late July (29th, 30th or 31st) 1966, my family was in Cooperstown visiting "Uncle" Jim Konstanty. We go on a day trip--my brothers and I had no idea where we were going. We arrive at Shea--were Konstanty was pitching in an old timers game that preceded a game between the Mets and the Cubs. I don't remember a heck of a lot about it--other than we sat in rather exclusive box seats and had lunch in the Shea Grill Room. Konstanty kept bringing ball players over to our table. Still have the Harry Stevens, Inc. menu. Phil Rizzuto signed it three times--personalized to my two brothers and me. And then there is the Casey Stengal signature To Jerry--well there was no Jerry in our party. I don't think many folks knew what the 'ole pro fessor was thinking in the summer of 1966. He would have been 76 at the So if you ever come across any 1966 Mets old timers programs--I would certainly be interested. peter mead prices on the menu--Jumbo Shrimp cocktail $2.00 Prime sirloin steak $6.75 Roast Prime Rib 5.75 assorted pies $.60 cheese cake $.75 and the Grill room excepted Diners and American Express Credit Cards. On 02/27/15, Shawn Smart shawnsmart@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: looking forward to sitting and watching this over the weekend... https://www.youtube.com/watch?vRq3Sxaw-bYU ================= Date: 27 Feb 2015 13:15:32 -0800 To: Subject: Kim Vida From: bskp1@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 08:48:22 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: Kim Vida From: Greg IPad I had two trades recently with Kim and can highly recommend. Greg Miller Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:44:56 -0500 Subject: 1971 Topps Football game From: Hi Guys: Just picked a large lot of 1971 Topps Football game cards and I=E2=99m 9cards short of the set I need the following cards. Please let me know if you can help me out. 1971 Topps Football Game cards Wantlist: 1 Butkus, 9 Nobis, 10 Sayers, 26 Bell, 34 Dempsey, 43 Bradshaw, 45 Lane, 48 Alworth, 51 Jurgensen I have the following 1971 Topps Football game cards if anyone needs any of these condition is all over the place: 2 Berry, 3 Namath, 5 Nance, 14 Collins, 15 Thomas, 17 Little, 19 Sanders, 31 Osborn, 32 Washington, 33 Abramowicz, 40 Dixon, 41 Woodeshick, 44 Avery, 52 Brown, First Down Marker Thanks for checking Nick Covello ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:47:36 -0800 Subject: OBC Best Baseball Movies Ever Results - Field of Dreams etc From: "George Vrechek" Well, here are the results you have all been waiting for. OBCers voted for their top 10 baseball movies. Points were awarded based on 10 for picking a movie first, 9 for second, etc. The card grades were then assigned by yours truly. I'll post this someplace on our website to establish a semi-permanent It was never close for the number 1 spot among the 23 OBCers who responded with Field of Dreams listed among the top 10 by 22 of the 23 voters and 14 voters picking it number 1 or 2. The Natural was ranked by 17 voters, and 7 people picked it number 1 or 2. Bull Durham and Eight Men Out fought it out for third place on the podium. A League of Their Own was a top 10 choice of 14 voters, but generally ranked further down the list. The final #10 spot was a close call among 6 films. If we all voted again today, I'd bet that the results for pick #10 would change again. Not everyone has seen every movie mentioned. There were movies that received strong support from some of the voters, while others really didn't have any basis for voting for a movie they hadn't seen. It gives us all a list of movies that may be worth watching. The OBCer with the most "right answers" was Joel Freedman who had 9 of the top 10 movies on his list, missing only my favorite - Pride of the Yankees. There are probably movie posters that are collectible for each of these films. LA super-collector Gary Cypres has an entire room filled with sports movie posters. I know there were cards of Robert Redford produced and appeared in The Natural similar to the 1940 Play Balls but in color. Any other cards from movies anyone has seen? 1 Field of Dreams (181 points) - Near Mint 2 The Natural (126) -Excellent Plus 3 Bull Durham (108) - Excellent 4 Eight Men Out (104) - Excellent 5 "42" (70) VG-Ex 6 Pride of the Yankees (68) VG-Ex 7 Major League (64) VG-Ex 8 A League of Their Own (58) VG-Ex 9 The Rookie (57) VG-Ex 10 Bad News Bears (40) VG In the same league as #10 11 The Sandlot (39) 12 Moneyball (38) 13 Bang the Drum Slowly (37) 14 Fear Strikes Out (36) 15 The Stratton Story (35) (Ken Burns' Baseball TV movie, 61*, and the Bronx is Burning had support but were not considered as movies that involved buying popcorn.) Honorable mentions (under 20 points each): For Love of the Game Trouble with the Curve Angels in the outfield Bingo Long Traveling All Stars Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 Rookie of the Year--1993. The Winning Team Fever Pitch The Scout Baseball Bugs The Winning Team It Happens Every Spring The Million Dollar Arm Simon Birch The Jackie Robinson Story The Kid from Left Field The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) The Babe Ruth Story Diminished Capacity George Vrechek ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:47:32 -0500 Subject: fantasy basebalL From: Shawn Smart Hi all - I was thinking about doing a Fantasy Baseball team this year. Does anyone have any recommendations for good leagues? I havent done one in about 10 years. Thanks in advance. ================= Date: 28 Feb 2015 13:03:02 -0800 To: Subject: Re: fantasy basebalL From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:28:34 -0500 To: JTysver1@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: fantasy basebalL From: Joel Freedman i would like to be in involved in fantasy baseball. prefer auto pick this year. On Feb 28, 2015, at 4:03 PM, JTysver1@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] > I can start one up. > It would be good to get from 10-12 players with a minimum of 8 (both leagues > Rotisserie seems best to me as its hard to play head to head. > Would people want to have an autopick draft (where you rank players) or alive draft, where you pick them live? ================= Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 17:43:44 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings , Subject: New set started.....1964 TOPPS Giants! From: Jimi Thayer Hey guys, I am trying to add one insert set to each baseball Topps set, and today I've decided that the 1964 Topps Giants set is a must! I have precisely ZERO of these cards, so I can use any of them in any condition! Much appreciated for any future help, and I can try and hit you back as well. Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 28 Feb 2015 14:45:17 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: fantasy basebalL From: JTysver1@msn.com ================= To: "'Jimi Thayer'" , Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 15:32:05 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] New set started.....1964 TOPPS Giants! From: "Grant Rainsley" I'll have at least 20 for you to start....give me until tomorrow and I'll post the numbers coming your way on the Wantlist page.... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jimi Thayer jimivintage@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 2:44 PM To: OBC Ramblings; OBC Wantlist Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New set started.....1964 TOPPS Giants! Hey guys, I am trying to add one insert set to each baseball Topps set, and today I've decided that the 1964 Topps Giants set is a must! I have precisely ZERO of these cards, so I can use any of them in any condition! Much appreciated for any future help, and I can try and hit you back as well. Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:49:23 -0500 To: JTysver1@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: fantasy basebalL From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en I'm a fan of head to head. I like being able to trash talk the opponent for a week :D! Live draft is hard to get everyone together, but you can do it and whoever isn't there will have their picks grabbed based on ranking for Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 2/28/2015 5:45:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Invite sent ================= Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 16:55:41 -0800 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movies Ever Results - Field of Dreams etc From: Stamper I have a complete set from Eight Men Out. A UV Collection. John Stamper On Feb 28, 2015, at 9:47 AM, "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Well, here are the results you have all been waiting for. OBCers voted for their top 10 baseball movies. Points were awarded based on 10 for pickinga movie first, 9 for second, etc. The card grades were then assigned by yours truly. I=E2=99ll post this someplace on our website to establish a semi-permanent > It was never close for the number 1 spot among the 23 OBCers who responded with Field of Dreams listed among the top 10 by 22 of the 23 voters and 14 voters picking it number 1 or 2. The Natural was ranked by 17 voters, and7 people picked it number 1 or 2. Bull Durham and Eight Men Out fought it out for third place on the podium. A League of Their Own was a top 10 choice of 14 voters, but generally ranked further down the list. The final #10 spot was a close call among 6 films. If we all voted again today, I=E2=99d bet that the results for pick #10 would change again. > Not everyone has seen every movie mentioned. There were movies that received strong support from some of the voters, while others really didn=E2=99t have any basis for voting for a movie they hadn=E2=99t seen. It gives us all a list of movies that may be worth watching. The OBCer with the most =E2=9Cright answers=E2=9D was Joel Freedman who had 9 of the top 10 movies on his list, missing only my favorite =E2=93 Pride of the Yankees. > There are probably movie posters that are collectible for each of these films. LA super-collector Gary Cypres has an entire room filled with sports movie posters. I know there were cards of Robert Redford produced and appeared in The Natural similar to the 1940 Play Balls but in color. Any other cards from movies anyone has seen? > 1 Field of Dreams (181 points) =E2=93 Near Mint > 2 The Natural (126) =E2=93Excellent Plus > 3 Bull Durham (108) =E2=93 Excellent > 4 Eight Men Out (104) =E2=93 Excellent > 5 =E2=9C42=E2=9D (70) VG-Ex > 6 Pride of the Yankees (68) VG-Ex > 7 Major League (64) VG-Ex > 8 A League of Their Own (58) VG-Ex > 9 The Rookie (57) VG-Ex > 10 Bad News Bears (40) VG > In the same league as #10 > 11 The Sandlot (39) > 12 Moneyball (38) > 13 Bang the Drum Slowly (37) > 14 Fear Strikes Out (36) > 15 The Stratton Story (35) > (Ken Burns=E2=99 Baseball TV movie, 61*, and the Bronx is Burning had support but were not considered as movies that involved buying popcorn.) > Honorable mentions (under 20 points each): > For Love of the Game > Trouble with the Curve > Angels in the outfield > Bingo Long Traveling All Stars > Alibi Ike -- Joe E. Brown 1935 > Rookie of the Year--1993. > The Winning Team > Fever Pitch > The Scout > Baseball Bugs > The Winning Team > It Happens Every Spring > The Million Dollar Arm > Simon Birch > Cobb > The Jackie Robinson Story > The Kid from Left Field > The Ball Game - Thomas Edison (1898- Because it was the first) > The Babe Ruth Story > Diminished Capacity > George Vrechek > Posted by: "George Vrechek" ================= Date: 28 Feb 2015 20:54:06 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Kim Vida From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 28 Feb 2015 21:23:43 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Best Baseball Movies Ever Results - Field of Dreams etc From: james_moleta@hotmail.com