================= Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 13:59:05 -0400 (EDT) To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: Pins and needles... Yes we have a winner! Grant Rainsley comes up first with the Honeymooners but since he had the card, he decided to yield to the next in line. This was Matt Yudt. Matt didn't think he needed the card, but his list says otherwise. Packages going out in the mail to BOTH for their answers. And no, these cards cannot "core a apple"! In a message dated 4/29/2014 1:15:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ChicoD1@aol.com writes: Needles and pins... it's a happy man that grins... For some reason I STILL can't get the servers to send to me. I tried Mark's idea of going to digest and back to daily. This is ridiculous! All I'm getting is from the "thanks" server... The first person that actually gets through to me and can tell me where that quote is from will get a 1962 Rocky Colavito # 20. Why that card? Because I just stuck my finger in my dupes box and that's where it landed LOL... ================= Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 17:08:37 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: National Hey has anyone booked a hotel for the National yet? ================= Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 19:49:32 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings From: Joel Freedman Subject: Nabisco Sugar Daddy Pro Faces Would like to send these 1974 1 Staubach (remnants of tape top and bottom) 1974 14 Under (off center, sharp corners) 1975 2 Park (small crease) 1975 2 Lysiak (stain) 1975 2 Lysiak (small bent corner) for any of these wants (any condition) 1974 Nabisco Sugar Daddy Pro Faces Football - 2 Little 3 Owens 7 Lily 8 Brockington Hockey - 12 22 Redmond Basketball - 16 18 Haywood 19 JJ White 20 Hawkins 21 Thurman 23 Walker 1975 Nabisco Sugar Daddy Pro Faces Football - 2 Little 3 Page 4 Olsen 5 Chambers 7 Lilly 8 Brockington 9 Plunkett 10 Lanier Hockey - 12 Hull 15 Parent 16 Redmond 22 Awrey Basketball - 18 Haywood 19 Lanier 21 Petrif 23 Walker 24 McaDoo 25 Kareem Abdul Jabbar any takers? ================= Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 06:02:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: National Taylor Shock and I are booked at the Cleveland Airport Marriott ================= Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 08:20:13 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Wax Subject: Waiver wire cards... Ive been too busy to search many want-lists, but i have a few cards up for grabs, if anybody needs them, send me a message. Please include your address, I probably wont reply until tomorrow. (mostly lower-mid grade card condition) 1955 bowman baseball- 43 Buhl, 220 Hearn, 211 Dixon 59 topps baseball - 419 Braves team, 30 Fox, 300 Ashburn, 177 Briggs, 314 Cardwell 61 topps baseball-15, 34, 84, 100, 163, 181, 198, 208, 221, 245, 262, 342, 453, 502, 509 62 topps baseball-206 senators, 410 Smith, 459 Bailey, 488 Brown, 511 Phillips ================= Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 15:33:23 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jimi Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Thanks] A few more offerings...'50s-style! Oops...sent this one originally to the wrong server..... Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jimi > Date: May 2, 2014 at 3:32:27 PM EDT > To: OBC Thanks > Subject: [OBC-Thanks] A few more offerings...'50s-style! > Hey folks, > I have a few more cards available for the keeping: > 1953 Bowman Color #1 WIlliams, 13 Zernial > 1955 Topps #10, 14, 86, 101 > 1956 Topps #105g > LMK and I'll get them out shortly! > Jimi > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 23:01:45 -0500 To: Obc Ramblings From: Greg IPad Subject: 1949 Eureka stamps Tonight I feel like rambling. I grew up on Sport magazine and The SportingNews back in the mid 50s to early 60s. So every once in a while, when I yearn for some nostalgia, I go hunting for a lot of vintage mags from my eraon eBay or some other auction house. I pretty much read them cover to cover and enjoy them probably as much or more than when I was a youngster. So last night I am searching on eBay for some old Sport mags and I run across a lot that I am interested in so I click on the sellers other items for sale button and find she is also selling an album made in 1949 that has color stamps of national league baseball players pasted in it. The stamps weremade by Eureka and there are 200 different. I had never heard of these stamps before but the stamps looked sorta neat and the album was interesting and the buy it now price seemed OBCish so I made a purchase. Next thing I did was try to google some history on this set but didn't have much luck. There is a checklist on our OBC website so I figure someone in our group knows something about Eureka stamps?? What happened to the American League stamps? Please enlighten me. Greg Miller Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 21:44:10 -0700 To: Greg IPad From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1949 Eureka stamps I have the album and stamps don't know why it's only national league but the album is about the same size as the 61 and 62 topps albums. If you like the topps stamps you will like these. Sent from my iPad > On May 2, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Greg IPad wrote: > Tonight I feel like rambling. I grew up on Sport magazine and The Sporting News back in the mid 50s to early 60s. So every once in a while, when I yearn for some nostalgia, I go hunting for a lot of vintage mags from my eraon eBay or some other auction house. I pretty much read them cover to cover and enjoy them probably as much or more than when I was a youngster. > So last night I am searching on eBay for some old Sport mags and I run across a lot that I am interested in so I click on the sellers other items for sale button and find she is also selling an album made in 1949 that has color stamps of national league baseball players pasted in it. The stamps were made by Eureka and there are 200 different. I had never heard of these stamps before but the stamps looked sorta neat and the album was interestingand the buy it now price seemed OBCish so I made a purchase. Next thing I did was try to google some history on this set but didn't have much luck. There is a checklist on our OBC website so I figure someone in our group knows something about Eureka stamps?? What happened to the American League stamps? Please enlighten me. > Greg Miller > Sent from my iPad ================= To: , Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 07:01:11 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: 1949 Eureka stamps The stamps are listed in the SCD Vintage guide. No explanation of why it is just the National League. The set is 200 stamps. Album with stamps in VG is $120. Robin Roberts is the most expensive player for some reason. The stamps were issued on team sheets. Looks like an easy way to kill off a vintage 200-player set with one click. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 09:36:51 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: SGC Card Grading Question OK I can already hear the raspberries coming from the peanut gallery=85=85 But I have a question. If I submitted a T205 card for grading that is torn in two, would they grade it A (Authentic) or would it be rejected? Lawrence Tipton ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, miller@gredella.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 09:46:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1949 Eureka stamps I love the stamps...full color pictures and very collectible. The Roberts is indeed the most expensive for a couple of reasons...it is his rookie and for some reason the phillies stamps seem to be tough to find (I still have a few on my list- Simmons and Ashburn)...the Musial, Campy, and Jackie are also keys to the set. Great set if you can find the album complete. Most stamps are seen with damage from the album or cut from the album. -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: miller ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, May 3, 2014 5:01 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1949 Eureka stamps The stamps are listed in the SCD Vintage guide. No explanation of why it isjust the National League. The set is 200 stamps. Album with stamps in VG is $120. Robin Roberts is the most expensive player for some reason. The stamps were issued on team sheets. Looks like an easy way to kill off a vintage 200-player set with one click. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 06:46:17 -0700 (PDT) To: Larry Tipton , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question I'm not sure if they would slab it because it would slide around in the holder. Never seen one like that, anyway! Take Care, > From: Larry Tipton >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 9:36 AM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question >OK I can already hear the raspberries coming from the peanut gallery=E2=A6=E2=A6 >But I have a question. >If I submitted a T205 card for grading that is torn in two, would they grade it A (Authentic) or would it be rejected? >Lawrence Tipton >OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo Groups Links ================= To: "'Larry Tipton'" , Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 10:22:49 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question I think you might get two slabs one for each half of the card, both graded Seriously, you might try posting this question on the Net54 forum, they have a lot of people who love SGA Good luck -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Tipton Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:37 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question OK I can already hear the raspberries coming from the peanut gallery.. But I have a question. If I submitted a T205 card for grading that is torn in two, would they grade it A (Authentic) or would it be rejected? Lawrence Tipton OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo Groups Links No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3931/7435 - Release Date: 05/03/14 ================= To: "'Geno Wagner'" , Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 07:58:35 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question Or just submit it to Guru=E2=99s Grading Service, it would be bound to get a number............or maybe even two. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geno Wagner Sent: May-03-14 6:46 AM To: Larry Tipton; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question I'm not sure if they would slab it because it would slide around in the holder. Never seen one like that, anyway! Take Care, From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 9:36 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC Card Grading Question OK I can already hear the raspberries coming from the peanut gallery=E2=A6=E2=A6 But I have a question. If I submitted a T205 card for grading that is torn in two, would they grade it A (Authentic) or would it be rejected? Lawrence Tipton OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo Groups Links No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7433 - Release Date: 05/02/14 ================= Date: 03 May 2014 12:42:47 -0700 To: From: Subject: Set killed! ================= Date: 03 May 2014 17:42:47 -0700 To: From: Subject: Toronto report ================= Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 20:10:43 -0700 (PDT) To: "vintage card traders.com" , From: Patrick Prickett Subject: Glendale, CA Show report Hi All, So the Glendale, CA sports show just wrapped up, and i thought I'd share the recap for those that did not make it. Overall, about 25 - 30 dealers set up. Truly some amazing stuff in the room. Sean Bassik set up with a large variety of high grade stuff (including three 1920s Babe Ruths!) and brought two security guards along for the ride. Ryan set up with his world class Cuban cards - I'd describe them, but they are WAY out of my league! Adam Warshaw had a great array of prime time boxing and other print goodies (4 pieces of original art from 1930's and 1940's cards!). The high end continued with severl other mind blowing tables - High grade T206s, T205s, T207s, a B18 blanket that a small horse could have slepy under, really hard to recall all the amazing things there (perhaps other will chime in and give a recap of some of the amazing stuff I'm not describing.). For the more traditional folks - Paul Markoe and Moss (don't know his last name) set up a LARGE selection on basic Topps/bowman cards from every year. Only thing I didn't see were blue backs. And the prices on a lot of this stuff were really great. I heard a rumor about someone picking up a huge lot of Redmans, with major stars and tabson many cards for under $3 a card (I think that certain someone good a great deal). Oh, and I didn't even mention Mark Macrae with his usual allotment of ... well everything. I had a very good show on my end - picking up a large selection of 1977-78 Topps grey backs (Oh, Ant - even though you weren't there - you had a good show as you will soon find out!), got 4 great 1933 Wide Pens from Mark Macrae (including Vaughan and Greenberg) and a pair of national chicle premiums, a trio of 1938 Goudeys (for $5 each), and a fistful of 1954 Bowman variations (for under $1 a card). But the odd ball deal of teh day for me was a trade. I traded an E95 E. Collins (tipton shape of course) for a weirdselection of cards including 12 American Caramel actors cards (no clue what set this is yet), a couple crew rowers from teh Allen & Ginter set, an Allen & Ginter "great war chief", and Annie Oakly and Buffalo Bill Look 'n See, 7 very nice Horrors of War cards, 2 three stooges cards, a fistul of T218 and other boxing cards (with HOFers), and a full set of some airplane cards set from England that is in uncut strips. No clue what the value of these cards is ... and didn't collect any of this before the trade (I wonder whatI now collect?) ... but I think I did pretty well. That guywho got the Redman box probably did better though. Maybe you'll hear about Just about everyone I talked to said ... I spent more than I planned too, but there were deals here I just couldn't pass up. All in all, a pretty great local show and a great way to spend a day. ================= To: Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 08:40:36 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: Glendale, CA Show report Sorry to miss that one. I wrote about the "club" efforts last year in SCD. We were in Manhattan Beach for 4 months including the last week of April but missed the one show around by one week. George Vrechek ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 09:07:06 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: New Football sets added I have added the following vintage football sets...........FLEER TEAM ACTION 1976 FLEER TEAM ACTION-Any condition listed 5-4-14.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46,47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 1977 FLEER TEAM ACTION-Any condition listed 5-4-14. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67. 1978 FLEER TEAM ACTION-Any condition listed 5-4-14.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46,47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68. 1979 FLEER TEAM ACTION-Any condition listed 5-4-14.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46,47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69. 1980 FLEER TEAM ACTION-Any condition listed 5-4-14.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46,47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, Ken Goetsch ================= To: patrick_prickett@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 10:13:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Glendale, CA Show report I will echo Patrick's sentiments...even though the show was far away this time and in a hot high school gym, it was a great show. I literally ran outof money in the first hour and had to borrow $40 from John Stamper (thanksagain!!!) for one last card. I even paypal'ed a dealer too! John might have got the deal of the day though although I did find 7 t205s incl. a miscutminor leaguer and 3 factory 42 backs (rare backs for those not in the know). Also picked up three(3!) Old Judge Phillies (all needed on my list!) for$110!! A great buy as the condition was actually g-vg! Found three diamondstars for $15 total that were beaters but included a high number. Also picked up two early caramel Phillies (one needed, one a price I could not passup) for $40. Patrick handed me two needed '53 Topps incl. a Kiner (Thanks Patrick!!). Also found one obak that I needed that was less than $10. Overall a fantastic show for me...thanks again to John and Patrick. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Prickett To: vintage card traders.com ; OBC Ramblings Sent: Sat, May 3, 2014 8:13 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Glendale, CA Show report Hi All, So the Glendale, CA sports show just wrapped up, and i thought I'd share the recap for those that did not make it. Overall, about 25 - 30 dealers set up. Truly some amazing stuff in the room. Sean Bassik set up with a large variety of high grade stuff (including three 1920s Babe Ruths!) and brought two security guards along for the ride. Ryan set up with his world class Cuban cards - I'd describe them, but they are WAY out of my league! Adam Warshaw had a great array of prime time boxing and other print goodies (4 pieces of original art from 1930's and 1940's cards!). The high end continued with severl other mind blowing tables- High grade T206s, T205s, T207s, a B18 blanket that a small horse could have slepy under, really hard to recall all the amazing things there (perhaps other will chime in and give a recap of some of the amazing stuff I'm notdescribing.). For the more traditional folks - Paul Markoe and Moss (don't know his last name) set up a LARGE selection on basic Topps/bowman cards from every year. Only thing I didn't see were blue backs. And the prices on a lot of this stuff were really great. I heard a rumor about someone picking up a huge lot of Redmans, with major stars and tabs on many cards forunder $3 a card (I think that certain someone good a great deal). Oh, andI didn't even mention Mark Macrae with his usual allotment of ... well everything. I had a very good show on my end - picking up a large selection of 1977-78 Topps grey backs (Oh, Ant - even though you weren't there - you had a good show as you will soon find out!), got 4 great 1933 Wide Pens from Mark Macrae (including Vaughan and Greenberg) and a pair of national chicle premiums, a trio of 1938 Goudeys (for $5 each), and a fistful of 1954 Bowman variations (for under $1 a card). But the odd ball deal of teh day for me was a trade. I traded an E95 E. Collins (tipton shape of course) for a weird selection of cards including 12 American Caramel actors cards (no clue what set this is yet), a couple crew rowers from teh Allen & Ginter set, an Allen & Ginter "great war chief", and Annie Oakly and Buffalo Bill Look 'n See, 7very nice Horrors of War cards, 2 three stooges cards, a fistul of T218 and other boxing cards (with HOFers), and a full set of some airplane cards set from England that is in uncut strips. No clue what the value of these cards is ... and didn't collect any of this before the trade (I wonder what I now collect?) ... but I think I did pretty well. That guy who got the Redman box probably did better though. Maybe you'll hear about it. Just about everyone I talked to said ... I spent more than I planned too, but there were deals here I just couldn't pass up. All in all, a pretty great local show and a great way to spend a day. ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 10:23:19 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: 1949 Eureka stamps I read Greg's report on his purchase, I'd never heard of these! And then after Josh George and Ricks comments I needed to look into these. I have the 1961 and 1962 Topps stamp booklets, and when I get stamps that Ineed, I dutifully paste them into my booklets:) I really like these Topps stamps, but a booklet from 1949 with Jackie Robinson included? Pursuing ebay I saw one complete booklet for $495, and an empty booklet for$600. The Jackie Robinson cut from the booklet $250 OBO. Individual stamps$2-$10. But I also got a listing for the booklet with all 200 stamps $100 delivered. It had 28 days left to go on the auction so it must have just gone up. Anyway I bought it, and I really am anxious to check it out! http://www.ebay.com/itm/171317179322?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1439.l2649 ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 10:35:05 -0700 To: Larry Tipton From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: 1949 Eureka stamps Good buy now you have to look at the 64 wheaties stamp albums baseball and football. Sent from my iPad > On May 4, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Larry Tipton wrote: > I read Greg's report on his purchase, I'd never heard of these! And then after Josh George and Ricks comments I needed to look into these. > I have the 1961 and 1962 Topps stamp booklets, and when I get stamps thatI need, I dutifully paste them into my booklets:) I really like these Topps stamps, but a booklet from 1949 with Jackie Robinson included? > Pursuing ebay I saw one complete booklet for $495, and an empty booklet for $600. The Jackie Robinson cut from the booklet $250 OBO. Individual stamps > But I also got a listing for the booklet with all 200 stamps $100 delivered. It had 28 days left to go on the auction so it must have just gone up. Anyway I bought it, and I really am anxious to check it out! > Guru > http://www.ebay.com/itm/171317179322?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1439.l2649 ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 15:06:08 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Variation ? on 1971 Topps Is there a variation card of Roberto Clemente I been under the impression that there is a Yellow "Pirates" which is the normal one and then a White variation I never seen at any price. Or is it a wife tale I can scratch off my lisy ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 12:12:02 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: 1962 stamps question went to a local show today. one of our favorite local dealers had a bunch of 62 topps stamps for a buck apiece. I don't know anything about these so didn't pick them up. curious for any info. when I checked on ebaypics I saw them being auctioned in 2 stamps at a time. any help with info? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: lazy sunday afternoon waiver wire offerigs have the following available. these are all in not very good condition so if you are condition sensitive then these are definitely not for you. please send your address with your claim. 67 topps 455 68 topps 358 69 topps 34 123 194 266 70 topps 54 369 71 topps 429 460 489 535 546 72 topps 77 207 73 topps 258 482 74 topps 43 78 92 122 281 371 traded 579 75 topps 512 514 539 553 557 558 559 564 569 564 208 491 490 489 519 518516 515 544 502 464 433 435 436 445 542 512 533 532 527 485 76 topps 163 77 topps 338 581 78 topps 184 282 288 162 346 80 topps 328 626 476 646 134 66 philly 194 68 topps 22 150 204 113 170 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 23:34:39 +0000 (UTC) To: John Dahms From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 stamps question Hello John, Here is what the SCD has to say: 1962 TOPPS STAMPS An artistic improvement over the somewhat drab Topps stamps of the previous year, the 1962 stamps, 1-3/8" x 1-7/8", had color player photographs set on red or yellow backgrounds. As in 1961, they were issued in two-stamp panels as insert with Topps baseball cards. A change from 1961 was the inclusion of team emblems in the set. A complete set consists of 201 stamps; Roy Sievers was originally portrayed on the wrong team - Athletics - and was later corrected to the Phillies. 1962 TOPPS STAMP PANELS Some advanced collectors pursue the 1962 Topps stamps in the form of the two-stamp panels in which they were issued. The 200 different stamps which make up the issue can be found on 245 different two-stamp panels, flanked at left by a smaller tab advertising the accompanying album. The unnumbered stamps are listed here alphabetically according to the name of the player or team which apears on the left end of the panel. And of course as you have heard there is a booklet that you can paste the 200 stamps into with 10 stamps for 20 different teams. GOOD LUCK and BE WELL!!!! REGARDS -------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Dahms" To: "OBC ramblings" Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:12:02 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 stamps question went to a local show today. one of our favorite local dealers had a bunch of 62 topps stamps for a buck apiece. I don't know anything about these so didn't pick them up. curious for any info. when I checked on ebay pics I sawthem being auctioned in 2 stamps at a time. any help with info? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 23:47:44 +0000 (UTC) To: Larry Tipton From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: 1949 Eureka stamps I just added the Eureka set to my list a month or so ago - I think that is a great deal - Nice find. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ----------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Tipton" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:23:19 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: 1949 Eureka stamps I read Greg's report on his purchase, I'd never heard of these! And then after Josh George and Ricks comments I needed to look into these. I have the 1961 and 1962 Topps stamp booklets, and when I get stamps that Ineed, I dutifully paste them into my booklets:) I really like these Topps stamps, but a booklet from 1949 with Jackie Robinson included? Pursuing ebay I saw one complete booklet for $495, and an empty booklet for$600. The Jackie Robinson cut from the booklet $250 OBO. Individual stamps$2-$10. But I also got a listing for the booklet with all 200 stamps $100 delivered. It had 28 days left to go on the auction so it must have just gone up. Anyway I bought it, and I really am anxious to check it out! http://www.ebay.com/itm/171317179322?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1439.l2649 ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 20:29:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Ed Pike Subject: Exhibiting Cards and Collectibles I am planning to show some items at theUSA Track and Field Nationals In Saclate June and could use some advice. There are two possible venues: hanging on the entryway wall and/orthey may also set up a separate area and couldinclude displaycase(s) where folks could spend more time if they want. Any tips/suggestions on how to display?I think Police Gazette posters wouldbe a great hanging item, mineare just in folders right now and thus I would need to figure out howto display them. I have a couple N29 album pages framedthat could make a great display though not sure whether a wallhanging would be vulnerable to theft. If they can provide display cases Iwould maybe run a type card series of about 100 or 200 different cards fromN29s to the present. I love the Mecca T-218s so it would be nice todisplay the complete run and the nice thing is that they can be hadfor a couple bucks each if some gets inspired from the display to dotheir own shopping. Anyone have suggestions on how to organize adisplay that covers 100 years and maybe 200 different issues, howmuch material to display for the casual observer, examples oflabels/narratives that you have used, etc? Ed Pike ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 20:32:05 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Post cards Johnny Hustle has a bunch of Post cards for bid ending shortly. Figured I'd "post" this with all the conversation going around... ID- ================= Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 20:55:27 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: And then there were two... Winning bids for the Musial and the Werle error. Underpaid for Stan, Overpaid for Werle and am getting both variations. The Stan bundle also came with 3 upgrades to my set. I'll offer the leftovers here and if no takers, I may take the plunge and try to sell the extras to offset Werle... http://www.ebay.com/itm/390829865234?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984. http://www.ebay.com/itm/301168854690?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984. ================= To: Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 22:05:04 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: TO Card Show Well, I'm back from the show and have put purchased/traded cards away. I met Mike Rich and was to get a few cards from him. I got 2 T201's, 4 Pep cards(2 baseball, 1 FBall & 1 Golf). I don't see them very often. I also received 3 Venezulan needed type cards. I also met with a local trading friend who always seems to come up withsome nice cards for me. For some hockey cards I managed to get 2 '53T Mays, '53B Musial & Berra, '40PB DiMaggio & '48/'49L DiMaggio. Not bad!! I was able to pick up 2 needed '33 Tatoo Orbits from Gregg Fisher(Mike pointed me his way). Also managed to find a dealer with a lot of '55B hi's at a reasonable price(after some back & forth banter). I have the extras listed on my site. However, my best find was 4 of the '59T no trade/option cards in vg for $50 total!! Only 1 to go now. He also filled in a lot of my '59T back variation With a few other finds, I'd say that this was a very good show for me. Mike also suggested that I start another set but none really jump out at me. I don't particularity like the look of the '51T sets and I don't want to start ant sets after '65. I did pick up 17 of the '61T Magic Rub-offsand so might want to start that set as I only need 19. Any one have any extras? ================= To: , Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 08:02:18 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 stamps question Speaking of stamps, this looks like a pretty good deal http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p1272212#post1272212 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of talbot1@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 7:35 PM To: John Dahms Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 stamps question Hello John, Here is what the SCD has to say: 1962 TOPPS STAMPS An artistic improvement over the somewhat drab Topps stamps of the previous year, the 1962 stamps, 1-3/8" x 1-7/8", had color player photographs set on red or yellow backgrounds. As in 1961, they were issued in two-stamp panels as insert with Topps baseball cards. A change from 1961 was the inclusion of team emblems in the set. A complete set consists of 201 stamps; Roy Sievers was originally portrayed on the wrong team - Athletics - and was later corrected to the Phillies. 1962 TOPPS STAMP PANELS Some advanced collectors pursue the 1962 Topps stamps in the form of the two-stamp panels in which they were issued. The 200 different stamps which make up the issue can be found on 245 different two-stamp panels, flanked at left by a smaller tab advertising the accompanying album. The unnumbered stamps are listed here alphabetically according to the name of the player or team which apears on the left end of the panel. And of course as you have heard there is a booklet that you can paste the 200 stamps into with 10 stamps for 20 different teams. GOOD LUCK and BE WELL!!!! REGARDS -------------------- MARK From: "John Dahms" To: "OBC ramblings" Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:12:02 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 stamps question went to a local show today. one of our favorite local dealers had a bunchof 62 topps stamps for a buck apiece. I don't know anything about these so didn't pick them up. curious for any info. when I checked on ebay pics I saw them being auctioned in 2 stamps at a time. any help with info? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3931/7435 - Release Date: 05/03/14 ================= Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:45:30 -0700 To: Joshua Levine From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Glendale, CA Show report I'll third Josh and Patricks take on the Show. There was plenty of cards tolook at and definitely more deals than money. I spent the bulk of my moneyon 145 Redman cards with and without tabs. The years are pretty evenly split between 52-55 with the most from 53. Some big names in the mix, Spahn, Reese, Stengel, Ford and Mays. All for less than $3 per card. Added about 10cards from 52 Topps. Picked up some 74 and 76 Wonder Bread Football. Thought I knocked some off the 74 set only to find out there is a Talk Town version. So I started yet another set. I was able to get a 67 "Who Am I?" of Willie Mays unscratched. Nice looking card even if you can't see his face. Willie is now keeping the Babe company in the binder. I still have to find a deal on Mantle. It is always fun to be at a card show. We have so few out in So Cal that they are special when they happen, no matter where they are.It was nice to see Joshua and Patrick again. And there knowledge of cards,especially pre war is amazing. Glad I could help Josh score another good deal. And it was a good time hanging out with Patrick, who slid me an OBC handshake containing a 64 Yaz. John Stamper On May 4, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Joshua Levine wrote: > I will echo Patrick's sentiments...even though the show was far away thistime and in a hot high school gym, it was a great show. I literally ran out of money in the first hour and had to borrow $40 from John Stamper (thanks again!!!) for one last card. I even paypal'ed a dealer too! John might have got the deal of the day though although I did find 7 t205s incl. a miscut minor leaguer and 3 factory 42 backs (rare backs for those not in the know). Also picked up three(3!) Old Judge Phillies (all needed on my list!) for $110!! A great buy as the condition was actually g-vg! Found three diamond stars for $15 total that were beaters but included a high number. Also picked up two early caramel Phillies (one needed, one a price I could not pass up) for $40. Patrick handed me two needed '53 Topps incl. a Kiner (ThanksPatrick!!). Also found one obak that I needed that was less than $10. > Overall a fantastic show for me...thanks again to John and Patrick. > Joshua > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Prickett > To: vintage card traders.com ; OBC Ramblings > Sent: Sat, May 3, 2014 8:13 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Glendale, CA Show report > Hi All, > So the Glendale, CA sports show just wrapped up, and i thought I'd share the recap for those that did not make it. > Overall, about 25 - 30 dealers set up. Truly some amazing stuff in the room. Sean Bassik set up with a large variety of high grade stuff (including three 1920s Babe Ruths!) and brought two security guards along for the ride. Ryan set up with his world class Cuban cards - I'd describe them, but they are WAY out of my league! Adam Warshaw had a great array of prime time boxing and other print goodies (4 pieces of original art from 1930's and 1940's cards!). The high end continued with severl other mind blowing tables - High grade T206s, T205s, T207s, a B18 blanket that a small horse couldhave slepy under, really hard to recall all the amazing things there (perhaps other will chime in and give a recap of some of the amazing stuff I'm not describing.). For the more traditional folks - Paul Markoe and Moss (don't know his last name) set up a LARGE selection on basic Topps/bowman cards from every year. Only thing I didn't see were blue backs. And the prices on a lot of this stuff were really great. I heard a rumor about someone picking up a huge lot of Redmans, with major stars and tabs on many cards for under $3 a card (I think that certain someone good a great deal). Oh, and I didn't even mention Mark Macrae with his usual allotment of ... well everything. > I had a very good show on my end - picking up a large selection of 1977-78 Topps grey backs (Oh, Ant - even though you weren't there - you had a good show as you will soon find out!), got 4 great 1933 Wide Pens from Mark Macrae (including Vaughan and Greenberg) and a pair of national chicle premiums, a trio of 1938 Goudeys (for $5 each), and a fistful of 1954 Bowman variations (for under $1 a card). But the odd ball deal of teh day for me was a trade. I traded an E95 E. Collins (tipton shape of course) for a weird selection of cards including 12 American Caramel actors cards (no clue what set this is yet), a couple crew rowers from teh Allen & Ginter set, an Allen & Ginter "great war chief", and Annie Oakly and Buffalo Bill Look 'n See,7 very nice Horrors of War cards, 2 three stooges cards, a fistul of T218 and other boxing cards (with HOFers), and a full set of some airplane cardsset from England that is in uncut strips. No clue what the value of thesecards is ... and didn't collect any of this before the trade (I wonder what I now collect?) ... but I think I did pretty well. That guy who got the Redman box probably did better though. Maybe you'll hear about it. > Just about everyone I talked to said ... I spent more than I planned too,but there were deals here I just couldn't pass up. > All in all, a pretty great local show and a great way to spend a day. > Cheers, > Patrick ================= Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:25:54 -0700 (PDT) To: "vintage card traders.com" , From: Patrick Prickett Subject: Research help on the W572 set Hi All, As many of you know I am researching the W572 (and I've made some big progress since the last article I sent out and a new version is forthcoming), but I wanted to send out a request for help. There are two versions of the W572 set. Those with a pure white background and printed in black ink, and a second version commonly refered to as sepia (dull, nonwhite front). I am trying to compile a "checklist"of known cards in the two versions. Attached below are the list of cards that I have not yet identified to exist. Can anyone else tell me if they have any of the cards listed below so that I can add them to the checklist of known cards? Thanks for any help! Black & White: 1 Ainsmith, 4 Bancroft, 5 Barbare,11 Bush, 12 Cadore, 13 Cheeves, 14 Cobb, 15 Collins (Eddie), 17 Cooper, 19 Cruise, 21 Daubert, 24 Doak, 25 Donohue, 26 Duncan, 27 Dykes, 30 Frisch, 31 Galloway, 32 Gharrity, 34 Gowdy, 35 Griffith, 36 Grimes (Burleigh), 37 Grimes (Ray), 38 Groh, 40 Harris, 41 Hauser, 42 Heilmann, 43 Henline, 44 Hollocher, 45 Hooper, 46 Hornsby, 47 Hoyt, 48 Hubbell, 49 Jacobson,52 Johnson (Walter), 54 Judge, 55 Kelly, 58 Laverette,59 Mamaux, 60 Maranville, 62 McManus, 65 Meusel (Bob), 66 Meusel (Emil), 68 Morrison, 69 Mostil, 70 Naylor, 72 Oeschger, 73 O'Farrell, 75 Parkinson, 78 Pinelli, 81 Quinn, 82 Rapp, 83 Ruether, 84 Rice, 85 Rigney,91 Schang, 92 Schmidt, 93 Schultz, 95 Sewell, 96 Shawkey, 97 Sheely, 98 Sherdel, 101 Smith (earl), 102 Smith (Elmer), 103 Smith (Jack), 105 Speaker, 106 Statz, 107 Stock, 108 Tierney, 109 Traynor, 111 Veach, 112 Walker (Clarence), 113 Walker (Curtis), 114 Wambsganss, 115 Ward, 116 Wheat, 118 Williams (Ken), 119 Wingo, 120 Wood 5 Barbare, 7 Bassler, 9 Boeckel, 12 Cadore, 14 Cobb, 18 Coveleski, 26 Duncan, 34 Gowdy, 40 Harris (s), 42 Heilmann, 45 Hooper, 52 Johnson (Walter), 56 King, 59 Mamaux, 61 Marquard, 70 Naylor, 75 Parkinson, 79 Pipp, 82 Rapp, 83 Ruether, 85 Rigney, 95 Sewell, 99 Shocker, 100 Sisler, 104 Southworth, 110 Uhle, 114 Wambsganss, 120 Wood ================= Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 11:47:23 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC , From: Stamper Subject: Waiver wires FCFS Here are some dupes that are on my desk from the card show last weekend. All are Baseball except as noted. Please include address. 1960 Fleer...8, 12, 14, 18, 25, 32, 41, 47, 65. Some have writing on back (9/3/63) 1965 Embossed...30 1968 Game...32 1969 Deckle...1, 7, 12, 29 (3) 1975 mini...571, 654 1975 Hostess...2, 4, 13, 20, 39, 133 (Schmidt writing on front) 149, 150 1976 Hostess...129 1977 Hostess...9, 45, 52, 97 (rough), 112, 115 wof, 138 1978 Hostess...6, 9 (no border) 1968 Topps FB...217 John Stamper ================= To: Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 20:20:46 -0500 From: "Greg Miller" Subject: 1949 Eureka Stamps The 1949 Eureka stamp album that I picked up on Ebay came today and I have to say I am impressed with the design and color of the stamps. I attached a picture of the cover of the album, a sample of the inside page where eachof the 200 stamps have a bio and a spot, and a copy of the last page in the album which is why I think Eureka had bigger plans for their stamp printing business. Obviously something went wrong with their business plan. All that ever came out was the national league in 1949, no american league and nothing in 1950. Anyway, I had never ran into these before and I thought some of you might like to see what they look like. Best to all. Greg Miller ================= Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 05:59:14 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Jerry Coker Subject: Unclaimed Waiver Wire The following cards are still available from my previous waiver wire ... ifanyone is interested. All cards are Tipton, but there are a few that are not too bad :-) Please include your shipping address! Thanks! 1961 Topps: 61 64 66 246 1964 Philadelphia FB: 1970 Topps: 42 135 171 278 298 337 438 452 478 1972 Topps: 11 21 39 54 74 75 76 78 81 84 86 91 99 103 106 109 123 128 129 131 143 147 156 165 171 194 197 351 353 477 482 495 501 508 516 601 Jerry Coker ================= Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:59:29 -0400 To: VCT , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Jimi Subject: In search of vintage starter sets Hey folks! Just came in from hitting the ball off the tee at the driving range....and I definitely need to go back before I play a round of real golf! :) I am looking for starter sets....preferably good-sized starters from vintage Topps from these years: 1952, 1953, 1954, 1956, 1957, and 1963. These are the years I'm lacking good starts on. I have a bunch to let go from 1958- 1973. Thanks for taking a look....and go enjoy this awesome weather! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 23:52:20 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'm at with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) 1- 52B 101 Mantle 2- 52B 218 Mays 3- 65T FB 122 Namath 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) 9- 67T 581 Seaver 10- 54T 102 Hodges Found and removed 52B 196 Musial 63F FB 12 Mathis Waiting in the wings... 75T BB 300 Erving 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon 89T FB 229 Lyons ================= Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 11:12:52 -0700 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards I would like to get credit for knocking off # 13. If you put more cards in the top ten that are worth a nickel you might knock more off. Sent from my iPad > On May 7, 2014, at 8:52 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: > Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'm at with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) > 1- 52B 101 Mantle > 2- 52B 218 Mays > 3- 65T FB 122 Namath > 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA > 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) > 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel > 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones > 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) > 9- 67T 581 Seaver > 10- 54T 102 Hodges > Found and removed > 52B 196 Musial > 63F FB 12 Mathis > Waiting in the wings... > 75T BB 300 Erving > 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon > 89T FB 229 Lyons > Sal ================= Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 13:16:58 -0500 To: Rick From: MarkZ Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Ok rick...I will put #13 away, you beat me to it. I will send al toon Mark Zentkovich Sent from mark z ipod On May 8, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Rick wrote: > I would like to get credit for knocking off # 13. If you put more cards in the top ten that are worth a nickel you might knock more off. > Sent from my iPad > On May 7, 2014, at 8:52 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: >> Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'm atwith mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) >> 1- 52B 101 Mantle >> 2- 52B 218 Mays >> 3- 65T FB 122 Namath >> 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA >> 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) >> 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel >> 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones >> 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) >> 9- 67T 581 Seaver >> 10- 54T 102 Hodges >> Found and removed >> 52B 196 Musial >> 63F FB 12 Mathis >> Waiting in the wings... >> 75T BB 300 Erving >> 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon >> 89T FB 229 Lyons >> Sal ================= To: , Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 11:27:52 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards I will play Sal, and make your thread even HUGER! I don't keep a written list of target cards, I simply keep in mind the biggies (or even littlies) that I am after.........I generally keep about half a dozen or so on the mental list..........three took a fall last year, all from '63, Brock, Killer, and then Rose, finishing that set. Which left (by my math) around three holes to fill on my mental list......and then just a couple of weeks ago (thanks JIMI!) a shot at a nice '62 #1 Maris arose, so without looking, I'm waiting for an opportunity to snag: 1- Beater '56 Williams 2- Nice upgrade of '62 318 Mantle in Action 3- Moofy '56 Clemente 4- Upgrade '61 #344 Koufax to VG+ 5- '64 #4 Ford with apostrophe 6- '60 Joe Lowe Canada Sicle Jets and Rockets #25 (Rascal) to put that set to bed. If I even get two of the above this year, it will have been another great From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: May-07-14 8:52 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'm at with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) 1- 52B 101 Mantle 2- 52B 218 Mays 3- 65T FB 122 Namath 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) 9- 67T 581 Seaver 10- 54T 102 Hodges Found and removed 52B 196 Musial 63F FB 12 Mathis Waiting in the wings... 75T BB 300 Erving 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon 89T FB 229 Lyons No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7457 - Release Date: 05/07/14 ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 17:49:02 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Re: Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Here's a few of my most wanted cards. These will kill the sets, '48 Bowman 8 Rizzuto '53 Bowman B&W 15,44 '54 Bowman 90,101 '59 Topps 362 no option + Favorite Rookie Insert '60 Topps Gray back version of 375 & 385 '63 Fleer C/List '65 Topps 460 '55 Bowman 152 Landry '56 Topps 61 Redskins Team Boxing Ringside 48,95 '57/'58 12,19 ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 17:52:31 -0400 From: Shawn Smart Subject: lesson learned I've seen some of you write things such as "do not bend", "non machineable"and "fragile - photos" on packages I have gotten. I will now do that from now on as well - lesson learned! The cards from this package are probably at the bottom of a postal machine somewhere in America....=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 22:23:03 -0400 (EDT) To: grains@shaw.ca, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Content-Language: en That Damn Ford was a pain in the ass to find! I think I would up getting it at a National. Now we have some stuff to bird dog in Cleveland! In a message dated 5/8/2014 2:27:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, grains@shaw.ca writes: I will play Sal, and make your thread even HUGER! I don=E2=99t keep a written list of target cards, I simply keep in mind the biggies (or even littlies) that I am after.........I generally keep about half a dozen or so on the mental list..........three took a fall last year, all from =E2=9963, Brock, and then Rose, finishing that set. Which left (by my math) around three holes to fill on my mental list......and then just a couple of weeks ago (thanks JIMI!) a shot at a nice =E2=9962 #1 Maris arose, so without looking, waiting for an opportunity to snag: 1- Beater =E2=9956 Williams 2- Nice upgrade of =E2=9962 318 Mantle in Action 3- Moofy =E2=9956 Clemente 4- Upgrade =E2=9961 #344 Koufax to VG+ 5- =E2=9964 #4 Ford with apostrophe 6- =E2=9960 Joe Lowe Canada Sicle Jets and Rockets #25 (Rascal) to that set to bed. If I even get two of the above this year, it will have been another great From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: May-07-14 8:52 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'mat with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) 1- 52B 101 Mantle 2- 52B 218 Mays 3- 65T FB 122 Namath 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) 9- 67T 581 Seaver 10- 54T 102 Hodges Found and removed 52B 196 Musial 63F FB 12 Mathis Waiting in the wings... 75T BB 300 Erving 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon 89T FB 229 Lyons No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7457 - Release Date: 05/07/14 ================= Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 22:27:16 -0400 (EDT) To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards Content-Language: en I wish Mantle and Mays were worth a nickel! In a message dated 5/8/2014 2:12:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com writes: I would like to get credit for knocking off # 13. If you put more cards in the top ten that are worth a nickel you might knock more off. Sent from my iPad On May 7, 2014, at 8:52 PM, _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'mat with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) 1- 52B 101 Mantle 2- 52B 218 Mays 3- 65T FB 122 Namath 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) 9- 67T 581 Seaver 10- 54T 102 Hodges Found and removed 52B 196 Musial 63F FB 12 Mathis Waiting in the wings... 75T BB 300 Erving 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon 89T FB 229 Lyons ================= Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 10:14:47 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards From: Jake Elwell Fun question! There's no secret where my loyalty lies -- I'm focusing on these: 1. 1962 Yaz 2. 1967 Yaz 3. 1967 #604 (Red Sox team) 4. 1967 Red Sox test sticker (any) 5. 1949 Leaf - any Red Sox 6. 1972 566 Smith IA, 703 Griffin 7. 1971 Arco -- Aparicio, Montgomery, Tatum, Siebert > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com > Sent: May-07-14 8:52 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards > Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'm at with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) > 1- 52B 101 Mantle > 2- 52B 218 Mays > 3- 65T FB 122 Namath > 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA > 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) > 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel > 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones > 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) > 9- 67T 581 Seaver > 10- 54T 102 Hodges > Found and removed > 52B 196 Musial > 63F FB 12 Mathis > Waiting in the wings... > 75T BB 300 Erving > 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon > 89T FB 229 Lyons > Sal > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7457 - Release Date: 05/07/14 ================= To: OBC Ramblings , Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 15:25:23 +0000 Subject: Heading To the Store.... From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends,I hope this note finds everyone doing well. Jo and I are in fora very eventful summer, as we leave on Sunday for two and a half months inEurope. After a study abroad trip that has me leading ten students in Italy, we are staying over to take a cruise of countries on the North Sea and spend about a month in the Netherlands. Email will be available throughoutthe trip, but any and all card trading will have to wait until we get backthe end of July. Not sure if I will have two cents to rub together when we get back, so the National may be off my table, but I hope to know more about that soon. Regardless, I hope everyone stays safe and has a wonderful summer!Be happy,JSGJohn Scott Gray=09=09=09=09=09 ================= To: Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 17:11:56 -0400 Subject: 1969 Transogram cards From: "Mark Holland" I ran across some 1969 Transogram cards in a photo album from my younger years. The action figures are long gone but I had over half the card set so I added it to my wantlist. Also listed the 68 Topps game and '77 Topps cloth after finding a stash of those too. I am interested in learning why we hear so little about the Transogram set. It is listed in the OBC checklist page (always my first stop for a checklist). But it is not listed in "Who Collects What". Or if it is there, I can't find it (always a possibility). The set has a really good checklist including Aaron, Mays, Seaver, both Robinsons, McCovey, Rose ..... I am curious to know whether anyone else in OBC is working on this set. What would it take to add it to the "misc" set section of who collects what? Have a good weekend. http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= To: "'Mark Holland' wholla_m@bellsouth.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 21:15:15 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Transogram cards From: talbot1@comcast.net ================= Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 14:53:15 -0700 To: "'Mark Holland' wholla_m@bellsouth.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Transogram cards From: wite3 ================= Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 18:29:19 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1949 Eureka Sportstamps -- why "Eureka" ? From: Matthew Glidden In updating my 1949 Sportstamps post for Number5TypeCollection.blogspot.com, Greg Miller's scans and links demonstrated that Eureka (as a company or product) doesn't appear in the original marketing, so I have to wonder how it picked up the catalog name. The same company (NPSS, a hobby division of a paper company) made a nearly identical Yankee stamp set in 1944, again without any mention of "Eureka." (And not cataloged as such.) Anyone know how that title became attached to 1949's stamps? ================= Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 19:04:48 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Transogram cards From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en As always, I'm just looking for Mets... Every once in a while I see Seaver at the National.. In a message dated 5/9/2014 5:11:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: I ran across some 1969 Transogram cards in a photo album from my younger years. The action figures are long gone but I had over half the card set so I added it to my wantlist. Also listed the 68 Topps game and '77 Topps cloth after finding a stash of those too. I am interested in learning why we hear so little about the Transogram set. It is listed in the OBC checklist page (always my first stop for a checklist). But it is not listed in "Who Collects What". Or if it is there, can't find it (always a possibility). The set has a really good checklist including Aaron, Mays, Seaver, both Robinsons, McCovey, Rose ..... I am curious to know whether anyone else in OBC is working on this set. What would it take to add it to the "misc" set section of who collects what? &n bsp; Have a good weekend. http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ (http://www.avast.com/) This email is free from viruses and malware because _avast! Antivirus_ (http://www.avast.com/) protection is active. ================= Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 17:10:58 -0700 To: "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com \[OBC-Ramblings\]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1949 Eureka Sportstamps -- why "Eureka" ? From: Rick You guys are finally delving in my main interest. The oddball and inserts have always been over collecting the topps and bowman runs. If you look at one of the stamps under the players name you will need a magnifying glass I believe it says eureka sportstamps. So I would say that's how they named the set. I have the album also with the stamps in it but also the original envelope it came in. I will send pictures in a different email. I also have the 1944 Yankees sheet of stamps and it is 30 stamps. Now I have to get you guys to collect the 55 golden book stamps and the 64 wheaties stamps. Sent from my iPad > On May 9, 2014, at 3:29 PM, "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > In updating my 1949 Sportstamps post for Number5TypeCollection.blogspot.com, Greg Miller's scans and links demonstrated that Eureka (as a company orproduct) doesn't appear in the original marketing, so I have to wonder howit picked up the catalog name. The same company (NPSS, a hobby division ofa paper company) made a nearly identical Yankee stamp set in 1944, again without any mention of "Eureka." (And not cataloged as such.) > Anyone know how that title became attached to 1949's stamps? > Spike ================= Date: Fri, 9 May 2014 17:12:43 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Eureka stamps From: Rick ================= Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 00:45:19 +0000 (UTC) To: Jo , DugOut , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Heading To the Store.... From: How awesome is that John (JSGJR;-))
Safe travels and please share a photo album with your envious BB card group afterwards!
OBC Forever,

Brian

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================= To: Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 08:10:22 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Transogram cards From: "Bob Donaldson" I have the set on my wantlist. I had three from my youth when I won the three-pak at an amusementpark as a boy. Don't see them too often though From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:12 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Transogram cards I ran across some 1969 Transogram cards in a photo album from my younger years. The action figures are long gone but I had over half the card set so I added it to my wantlist. Also listed the 68 Topps game and '77 Topps cloth after finding a stash of those too. I am interested in learning why we hear so little about the Transogram set. It is listed in the OBC checklist page (always my first stop for a checklist). But it is not listed in "Who Collects What". Or if it is there, I can't find it (always a possibility). The set has a really good checklist including Aaron, Mays, Seaver, both Robinsons, McCovey, Rose ..... I am curious to know whether anyone else in OBC is working on this set. What would it take to add it to the "misc" set section of who collects what? Have a good weekend. http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3931/7445 - Release Date: 05/05/14 ================= Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 10:19:44 -0500 To: "'Mark Holland' wholla_m@bellsouth.net [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1969 Transogram cards From: Yaz I don't collect these as a set but I do have one of the complete boxes with three cards and three figures, Yaz, Oliva and Stottlemyre. It's part of my Yaz collection and you can see it on my page, (scroll down the wantlist page until you find the 'A Real Yaz Page' link. They also came as singles, (card and figure), so I'm always looking for a single Yaz. It's probably insanely high. Greg (yaz) On 5/9/2014 4:11 PM, 'Mark Holland' wholla_m@bellsouth.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I ran across some 1969 Transogram cards in a photo album from my > younger years. The action figures are long gone but I had over half > the card set so I added it to my wantlist. Also listed the 68 Topps > game and '77 Topps cloth after finding a stash of those too. > I am interested in learning why we hear so little about the Transogram > set. It is listed in the OBC checklist page (always my first stop for > a checklist). But it is not listed in "Who Collects What". Or if it > is there, I can't find it (always a possibility). The set has a > really good checklist including Aaron, Mays, Seaver, both Robinsons, > McCovey, Rose ..... I am curious to know whether anyone else in OBC is > working on this set. What would it take to add it to the "misc" set > section of who collects what? > Have a good weekend. > Mark > OBC > http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. ================= Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:27:00 -0400 To: "Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1949 Eureka Sportstamps -- why "Eureka" ? From: Matthew Glidden Thanks Rick, much appreciated! Hadn't looked at that tiny print in awhile, but it's obvious now that you mention it. Cool original scans, too! OK if I include them on the blog post? On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > You guys are finally delving in my main interest. The oddball and inserts > have always been over collecting the topps and bowman runs. If you look at > one of the stamps under the players name you will need a magnifying glassI > believe it says eureka sportstamps. So I would say that's how they named > the set. I have the album also with the stamps in it but also the original > envelope it came in. I will send pictures in a different email. I also have > the 1944 Yankees sheet of stamps and it is 30 stamps. Now I have to get you > guys to collect the 55 golden book stamps and the 64 wheaties stamps. > Sent from my iPad > On May 9, 2014, at 3:29 PM, "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com[OBC-Ramblings]" > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > In updating my 1949 Sportstamps post for > Number5TypeCollection.blogspot.com, Greg Miller's scans and links > demonstrated that Eureka (as a company or product) doesn't appear in the > original marketing, so I have to wonder how it picked up the catalog name. > The same company (NPSS, a hobby division of a paper company) made a nearly > identical Yankee stamp set in 1944, again without any mention of "Eureka." > (And not cataloged as such.) > Anyone know how that title became attached to 1949's stamps? > Spike ================= Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 22:34:56 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: something different? From: Yaz I noticed that starting on May 9th, the emails from you guys list the server next to the name of the sender. My email program, Thunderbird for some reason, now doesn't allow me a choice of reply or reply to all. I only get reply, (along with the forward, delete and junk choices). On all emails prior to that date I have all the choices. Any thoughts about this bit of strangeness? Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 03:51:22 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] something different? From: Hey, i noticed that change too, YAZ.
All the emails come in with the server name only.
I can reply all, but a few of the emails I cannot tell who they are actually from.
Must be something with Yahoo.
(I use an app from Comcast on my IPad almost exclusively to check email)

Brian

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================= To: , Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 21:22:58 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] something different? From: "Grant Rainsley" I picked up that too, but wondered if it was just me, it usually seems to be. Glad I=E2=99m not alone. Guess we have to start putting our names at the end of emails to the group so we know who sent it. Also I hit Reply Allin response to the Toad=E2=99s email, and it just addressed it to Brian...........so a lot of stuff is going to get missed if you don=E2=99t check the Recipients bar.......must be a =E2=9Cnew and improved=E2=9D something or other. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: May-10-14 8:51 PM To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] something different? Hey, i noticed that change too, YAZ. All the emails come in with the server name only. I can reply all, but a few of the emails I cannot tell who they are actually Must be something with Yahoo. (I use an app from Comcast on my IPad almost exclusively to check email) Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sun May 11 03:34:53 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] something different? I noticed that starting on May 9th, the emails from you guys list the server next to the name of the sender. My email program, Thunderbird for some reason, now doesn't allow me a choice of reply or reply to all. I only get reply, (along with the forward, delete and junk choices). On all emails prior to that date I have all the choices. Any thoughts about this bit of strangeness? Greg (yaz) No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7471 - Release Date: 05/10/14 ================= Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 21:43:20 -0700 To: "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com" Subject: Eureka From: Rick I just noticed at the bottom right corner of the album it says eureka sportstamps. ================= To: Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 11:58:20 -0400 Subject: new sets From: "Gord Ellis" Hi Everyone. I'm considering starting a new FB set and thought that I mighttry '53. Is this a hard set? Also are the other earlier FB sets hard? Aslo, Does anyone have a starter set that might get me going? I've got lots of baseball and later '50's & '60's football to trade. Thanks. Gord ================= Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 15:11:27 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: sharp 1967 OPC Rojas #104 EXMT available From: Jimi I found an OPC '67 Rojas #104 EXMT in my '67T binder, so it's available to the first one who shouts out, "I'll take it!"...and..."GO TRIBE!" :) PS....I don't need the Topps Rojas to replace the OPC. Thanks! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 13 May 2014 03:43:28 -0700 To: Subject: Robert Morris show and Pitt & Ohio trip From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= Date: 14 May 2014 09:36:12 -0700 To: Subject: I'll be going away for awhile.... From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 22:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Announcements] April OBCAC report From: mikesportsfan@aol.com And I was just getting my old hat broken in! Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: directorth@aol.com [OBC-Announcements] To: OBC-Announcements Sent: Wed, May 14, 2014 3:05 pm Subject: [OBC-Announcements] April OBCAC report Hi everyone, In April, the primary topic your AC discussed was amending the ROC for the purpose of more clearly defining when an applicant for admission may re-apply. The AC believes the current wording may be too vague. No decision has yet been made, but discussion is continuing this month. Discussion has also taken place regarding the occasional practice of members thanking non-OBC members on the Thanks mailing list & how that can be discouraged if any member continually violates that rule of etiquette. The AC realizes that every now & then that someone slips up, which is easily forgivable, but the discussion centers on repeat offenders. Larry "Guru" Tipton continues his fine work on getting new hats designed & hopes to have a prototype within 2-3 weeks. As it stands now, the hats are fitted (not adjustable, one-size-fits-all, like the current ones), so if anyone is interested in a new OBC hat, you'll need to know your hat size (sono growing out your hair a la 1976 Topps Traded Oscar Gamble!) When Guru gets a prototype, we'll share the design with the general membership. Basedon the information Larry shared with the AC, the purchase price should be very reasonable too. Well done, Guru! Although this is an "April" report, word came in to the AC a couple of daysago that Mike Mroz has asked to Inactive. Our best wishes to Mike & hope he decides to rejoin the ranks of the Active when his time permits. If you have any agenda items you would like the OBCAC to consider, please e-mail any AC member directly, or post to Ramblings. Your OBCAC members are Andy Cook, Bob Donaldson, Peter Mead, Don Rice, JohnStamper, MarkTalbot & Larry "Guru" Tipton. The non-voting alternate is RichNiessen. The non-voting Facilitator is yours truly. ================= To: Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 08:53:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Fwd: [OBC-Announcements] April OBCAC report From: "George Vrechek" Mike, You got your monies worth out of that hat. ================= Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 07:23:54 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1941 Play Ball attic find From: Glenn Codere http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/thought-lost-pristine-1941-play-ball-collection-emerges-attic/ We also know a story about the '41 Playball set, don't we boys and girls? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 13:03:31 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , Subject: had to share From: John Dahms I was down visiting my father and mother this past week, dad has beenin the hospital for the last month, getting better and hoping for a rehab stint beginning of next week. there is an outlet store my mom talks about so I told her I was going to check it out yesterday before dinner. she told me that there is a thrift store right next to it and maybe I would like to look in there too. I am glad I took her advice on the thrift store. not really thinking I would find anything of interest because cant fit much in a small carry on I looked kind of half-a## through the store, on the way out you have to walk past the counter, I happened to glance in the display and on bottom shelf was a box of baseball cards all strewn together. I looked in there through the glass and saw what I figured, a bunch of 80's and 90's stuff, just about to walk away and I saw a 72 topps sticking out, 700 series. so I asked the guy if I could look at the box. a nickel a card, 90 percent of the box was 72's and older, football and baseball, all in vg and better for the most part. looking a at a stack of 67 different cards from the 700 series for the 72 set! another 70 or so for the 600 and 500 series as well. also a stack of about 150 or so from the early 60's and 50's. I bought the box, he asked for 30 bucks. I gave him 50 (it is a life changing ministries thrift store). I read about folks finding nice stashes at flea markets and thrift stores and I am thinking this is mine. I put them all in my carry-on suitcase. the weight was 22 pounds with just my clothes, 37 pounds with the cards. my mom asked me what was I doing.....I told her that I had to save the cards, they would have just been pitched...this was before I knew it had a ton of hi numbers in it. that's enough of a ramble....... have a good weekend all John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:50:12 +0000 (UTC) To: John Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] had to share From: JD...sweet find!
I would be leaving the clothes behind if they didn't all fit in the bag!
44 years into my collecting career and I cannot recall a "find" at all , not counting just some pretty good deals on eBay or card shows. Still waiting to "find" at a garage sale , flea market or thrift shop.
I have had plenty of people approach me about "old baseball cards" only to find them be 1990 Score or worse...but maybe someday!!

OBC Forever,

Brian

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================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) To: John Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] had to share From: Actually what I meant to say was, I am glad your Dad is feeling better! Swift recovery is today's prayer!
oBC Forever,
Brian

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================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:07:09 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" I'm a little late to the game on this one, but here is my top 10. Apologies for the UV littered throughout the list. 1. 1987 Pocatello Giants The Bon Mike Greenwood (to knock out my Greenwood collection) 2. T206 Jack Chesbro (HOF collection) 3. 1982 FBI Discs Jim Rice (to knock out the player collection) 4. 1973 Linnett Portraits Johnny Grubb (to knock out the player 5. 1934-36 Diamond Stars Carl Hubbell (set hit) 6. 1889 Allen & Ginter N3 Abyssinian Spear (set hit) 7. 1913 T200 Cleveland (set hit) 8. 2000 Pacific Platinum Blue Mike Morgan (to knock out the player 9. 1989 Padres Coke Luis Salazar (to knock out the player collection) 10. 1986 Mariners Pacific Northwest Bell Ken Phelps (to knock out the player collection) Erik Greenwood On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Jake Elwell wrote: > Fun question! There's no secret where my loyalty lies -- I'm focusing on > these: > 1. 1962 Yaz > 2. 1967 Yaz > 3. 1967 #604 (Red Sox team) > 4. 1967 Red Sox test sticker (any) > 5. 1949 Leaf - any Red Sox > 6. 1972 566 Smith IA, 703 Griffin > 7. 1971 Arco -- Aparicio, Montgomery, Tatum, Siebert > Cheers, > Jake > > > > > > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com > > Sent: May-07-14 8:52 PM > > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Top 10 Most Wanted Cards > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to spur a huge thread, I was looking at my 2014 goals. I've done > pretty well and I looked at my top 10- knocked off 2. So here is where I'm > at with mine. I wonder how many of us have the same cards we are looking > for (yeah 52T Mantle-both variations...) > > > > > > > > 1- 52B 101 Mantle > > > > > > > > 2- 52B 218 Mays > > > > > > > > 3- 65T FB 122 Namath > > > > > > > > 4- 72T FB 343 Namath IA > > > > > > > > 5- 66 BATMAN 39 Puzzle Back (set finisher!) > > > > > > > > 6- 65 OPC 187 Stengel > > > > > > > > 7- 66 OPC 165 Jones > > > > > > > > 8- 68 OPC 177 Ryan (put this in the Mantle category) > > > > > > > > 9- 67T 581 Seaver > > > > > > > > 10- 54T 102 Hodges > > > > > > > > Found and removed > > > > > > > > 52B 196 Musial > > > > > > > > 63F FB 12 Mathis > > > > > > > > Waiting in the wings... > > > > > > > > 75T BB 300 Erving > > > > > > > > 88T 1000 Yard Club 9 Toon > > > > > > > > 89T FB 229 Lyons > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2014.0.4577 / Virus Database: 3931/7457 - Release Date: 05/07/14 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory > Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page > or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:15:10 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: 1952 Topps variation From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, As many of you know, I've been researching the 1952 Topps set - along the wayin my quest for a master set (which I would argue no one has ever completed). I always planned to release what I learned once I completed it, but I'm pretty much stuck at this point. I need the #189 Topps Reiser grey back and only 3 are known to exist - and the folks that have them, aren't selling/trading them. (I also need a Type A Mantle - but getting one of those is pricey, but not impossible). So I've decided that I will dribble out some of my "discoveries" to this group while I wait for the day when one of those three finally becomes available. For the first card I've decided to release ... I 've decided not to tell folks directly what the error is ... but instead let them find it for themselves, and then wonder ... how on Earth did this variation remain a secret for this long? The card of today: #219 Bobby Shantz There are three variations of the Bobby Santz card. (This is the easiest/most common of the variation cards to find in the whole 1952 Topps set). To find it, go to Ebay and run a search for 1952 Topps Shantz. Do not bother opening any of the links at this point. Just blow up the pictures on Ebay to 150% (you actually don't need to blow it up, but it probably willmake it faster), and scroll top to bottom trough the listings a few times. You should spot two variations immediately. Once you've identified the variation, start opening the links of cards and you should be able to find the third variation pretty easily. For those of you who decide you want to own one ... don't go crazy buying them. This variation is VERY common. I'd argue each is printed about equally. The premium on the variations you don't have should be under 5-10%. If you get stuck and can't find it, let me know and I'm happy to share ... but I think it will be more fun to discover this on your own. Oh ... and since I don't believe anyone else has ever known that a master set should have 3 Shantz cards in it ... this is one reason I argue that no one has ever completed a master set. One last comment, I am deciding to release the info here instead of other places because ... if people start deciding these are true/valuable variations ... I want the cards to land in the hands of real collectors instead of people looking to flip em and make money. So please do not share this. Ps- If you think you know of a variation in the 1952 Topps set that I mightnot know, drop me a line. Odds are, I know of it, but if I don't I'll make sure I give you at least one variation that you don't know about in return. ================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:25:42 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings Subject: 1970 topps question From: John Dahms picked up a lot of 70 topps, sorting through them I noticed on a couple a different color circle where the number is. wondering if these are thanks as always. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 18:19:26 -0400 To: John Dahms , OBC ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 topps question From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 19:01:31 -0400 (EDT) To: patrick_prickett@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps variation From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Content-Language: en I want to thank you for bursting my bubble thinking after the 11 cards i have left that i would have a complete set and egads 2 mantles i definitely nee to win the lottery In a message dated 5/17/2014 4:18:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: Hi All, As many of you know, I've been researching the 1952 Topps set - along the way in my quest for a master set (which I would argue no one has ever completed). I always planned to release what I learned once I completed it, I'm pretty much stuck at this point. I need the #189 Topps Reiser grey back and only 3 are known to exist - and the folks that have them, aren't selling/trading them. (I also need a Type A Mantle - but getting one of those is pricey, but not impossible). So I've decided that I will dribble out some of my "discoveries" to this group while I wait for the day when one of those three finally becomes For the first card I've decided to release ... I 've decided not to tell folks directly what the error is ... but instead let them find it for themselves, and then wonder ... how on Earth did this variation remain a secret for this long? The card of today: #219 Bobby Shantz There are three variations of the Bobby Santz card. (This is the easiest/most common of the variation cards to find in the whole 1952 Topps set). To find it, go to Ebay and run a search for 1952 Topps Shantz. Do not bother opening any of the links at this point. Just blow up the pictures on Ebay to 150% (you actually don't need to blow it up, but it probably will make it faster), and scroll top to bottom trough the listings a few times. You should spot two variations immediately. Once you've identified the variation, start opening the links of cards and you should be able to find the third variation pretty easily. For those of you who decide you want to own one ... don't go crazy buying them. This variation is VERY common. I'd argue each is printed about equally. The premium on the variations you don't have should be under 5-10%. If you get stuck and can't find it, let me know and I'm happy to share ... but I think it will be more fun to discover this on your own. Oh ... and since I don't believe anyone else has ever known that a master set should have 3 Shantz cards in it ... this is one reason I argue that no one has ever completed a master set. One last comment, I am deciding to release the info here instead of other places because ... if people start deciding these are true/valuable variations ... I want the cards to land in the hands of real collectors instead people looking to flip em and make money. So please do not share this. Ps- If you think you know of a variation in the 1952 Topps set that I might not know, drop me a line. Odds are, I know of it, but if I don't I'll make sure I give you at least one variation that you don't know about in ================= Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 16:38:41 -0700 (PDT) To: "LUURSCJG@aol.com" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps variation From: Patrick Prickett And then you need 2 Campy's ... oh and then there's the Campos Black Star, and the Campos partial Black star, and the Campos broken border (which is VERY tough) and then there are 60 grey backs(that are absolutely not canadians, but part of the regular run), and then the House yellow tiger, and the House partial yellow tiger .... and .... T206 may be the Monster ... but the 1952 Topps set is harder than it looks! Sorry for bursting your bubble though! On Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:01 PM, "LUURSCJG@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" I want to thank you for bursting my bubble thinking after the 11 cards i have left that i would have a complete set and egads 2 mantles i definitely nee to win the lottery In a message dated 5/17/2014 4:18:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: >Hi All, >As many of you know, I've been researching the 1952 Topps set - along the wayin my quest for a master set (which I would argue no one has evercompleted). I always planned to release what I learned once I completed it, but I'm pretty much stuck at this point. I need the #189 Topps Reiser grey back and only 3 are known to exist - and the folks that have them, aren't selling/trading them. (I also need a Type A Mantle -but getting one of those is pricey, but not impossible). >So I've decided that I will dribble out some of my "discoveries" to this group while I wait for the day when one of those three finally becomes available. >For the first card I've decided to release ... I 've decided not to tell folks directly what the error is ... but instead let them find it for themselves, and then wonder ... how on Earth did this variation remain a secret for this long? >The card of today: #219 Bobby Shantz >There are three variations of the Bobby Santz card. (This is the easiest/most common of the variation cards to find in the whole 1952 Topps set). >To find it, go to Ebay and run a search for 1952 Topps Shantz. Do not bother opening any of the links at this point. Just blow up the pictures on Ebay to 150% (you actually don't need to blow it up, but it probably will make it faster), and scroll top to bottom trough the listings a few >You should spot two variations immediately. >Once you've identified the variation, start opening the links of cards and you should be able to find the third variation pretty easily. >For those of you who decide you want to own one ... don't go crazy buying them. This variation is VERY common. I'd argue each is printedabout equally. The premium on the variations you don't have should be under 5-10%. >If you get stuck and can't find it, let me know and I'm happy to share ... but I think it will be more fun to discover this on your own. >Oh ... and since I don't believe anyone else has ever known that a master set should have 3 Shantz cards in it ... this is one reason I argue that no one has ever completed a master set. >One last comment, I am deciding to release the info here instead of other places because ... if people start deciding these are true/valuable variations ... I want the cards to land in the hands of real collectors instead of people looking to flip em and make money. So please do not share this. >Ps- If you think you know of a variation in the 1952 Topps set that I might not know, drop me a line. Odds are, I know of it, but if I don't I'll make sure I give you at least one variation that you don't know about in ================= Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 15:44:40 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thanks to Don Rice! From: After spending 7 hours putting two coats of stain on my deck it was wonderful the hear the magic words "You've got OBC mail"! Don sends a fantastic envelope of one 53 Bowman and 3 52's, including Johnny Wyrostek, who's bio states that "He spent8 consecutive seasons with 8 clubs in the majors and minors before becoming a big league regular in 1946". I love reading those bios. Thanks Don! ================= Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 10:04:17 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: =?utf-8?B?MTk1NyBUb3BwcyBNYW50bGXigKZjaGVhcCE=?From: Geno Wagner If you need one cheap, check this beauty out: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t187929 Take Care, ================= Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 18:56:09 -0700 (PDT) To: trading bases , Subject: 71 and 72 semi hi and hi numbers ATT From: John Dahms hey all, finally got the thrift store cards sorted and upgraded where I can, mixed them in with the hi numbers that I had and will now list them for trade. condition varies(from vg-ex+++) and I will gladly get back to you if yourequest condition on card(s) so please ask if you are condition sensitive. I am going to leave this up for awhile so everyone can look and get a chance. looking for hits to my topps run first, also, I have a list of hi numbers of 69's and 70 topps if you have nothing for my topps run as I am debating on starting a second set of those. any questions please ask. thanks for looking here are the numbers I have available for trade 71 topps baseball 500 501 502 503 504 507 508 509 512 514 515 516 517 518 519 521 522 523 524526 527 528 531 532 534 536 537 538 540 543 546 547 548 549 551 552 558 561 562 564 565 568 571 573 575 577 579 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 590 591 592 593 596 597 601 602 604 606 607 608 610 612 617 618 619 621 622 923 626 627 629 631 632 634 636 637 638 639 641 642 643 647 654 657 658 660 663 667668 675 677 678 685 699 701 702 703 716 718 721 726 729 730 738 741 742 749 72 topps baseball 502 503 505 507 508 509 511 513 514 516 518 519 520 522 524 525 527 528 529531 532 533 534 535 536 537 539 540 541 542 546 547 548 549 551 553 557 561 562 563 566 569 571 572 576 577 578 580 581 582 583 584 585 588 589 591 592 593 596 597 598 599 601 602 603 606 607 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 625 627 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642643 644 645 646 647 648 649 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 659 661 662 664 669 670 672 674 675 677 679 682 683 689 690 691 693 705 707 715 717 718 720 721 726 727 732 737 738 744 745 746 750 756 765 767 770 771 779 781 786 787 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 18 May 2014 19:14:29 -0700 To: Subject: Motherlode of 50's ending soon From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: "james_moleta@hotmail.com" , Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 21:17:50 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Motherlode of 50's ending soon From: "Fr. Patrick" I bid on it twice, but only succeeded in getting the price up to 735 without To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 19:14:29 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Motherlode of 50's ending soon It's past my threshold, but WOW! Mantles, 54T Wililams, and just overa buck a card! Gotta hurry, though! Lot of 500 + Lower Grade Topps Baseball Cards All Between 1951 - 1960 Mantle Lot of 500 + Lower Grade Topps Baseball Cards All ... US $559.99 Acceptable in Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop, Cards, Baseball View on www.ebay.com Preview by Yahoo ================= Date: 18 May 2014 19:21:34 -0700 To: Subject: Re: Motherlode of 50's ending soon From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 18:57:31 -0400 (EDT) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: gremlin alert From: smartalecx@aol.com was going through my 1970 kellogg's set, and see that i am missing # 9 jimmy wynn. anyone have an extra to spare? i have many dupes from this and other years available as well. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 14:16:59 -0400 (EDT) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: gremlin alert # 2 From: smartalecx@aol.com have the 1970 gremlin incoming, but now i am looking for 1977 kellogg's # 27 sixto lezcano. plmk if you can help. there should be no more in these sets as they are all in binders and accounted for. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:08:57 -0700 Subject: 1956 NY Giants team card.....just weird. From: "Grant Rainsley" Was just thumbing through my almost done set........and picked up on card #226, NY Giants team card. Seems to me that most team cards list the players from left to right...........the other team cards in that set seem to. Not this card though, apparently they didn't stick with tradition.....I picked up on it right away because I was a "highly trained Investigator," and noticed that the guy named Willie Mays on the card is white..........and according to Topps, Paul Giel is black...........which goes completely against the grain of the other cards I have of Paul Giel. I was just SO Okay, so I was bored, and needed something constructive to do. Nice to know that my investigative abilities (for pointing out the obvious) are still ================= Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 01:09:21 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 NY Giants team card.....just weird. From: Glenn Codere That's some fine detective work there, Grant!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "'Grant Rainsley' grains@shaw.ca [OBC-Ramblings]" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:08 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 NY Giants team card.....just weird. Was just thumbing through my almost done set........and picked up on card #226, NY Giants team card. Seems to me that most team cards list the playersfrom left to right...........the other team cards in that set seem to. Not this card though, apparently they didn=E2=99t stick with tradition.....I picked up on it right away because I was a =E2=9Chighly trained Investigator,=E2=9D and noticed that the guy named Willie Mays on the card is white..........and according to Topps, Paul Giel is black...........which goes completely against the grain of the other cards I have of Paul Giel. I was just SO confused. Okay, so I was bored, and needed something constructive to do. Nice to knowthat my investigative abilities (for pointing out the obvious) are still there. ================= Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 18:40:58 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings Subject: 1960 topps question From: John Dahms I have been sorting some 1960 topps baseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't have the normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as to what it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 20:43:11 -0700 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question [1 Attachment] From: "Grant Rainsley" Salesman sample I would think.......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from John Dahms included below] I have been sorting some 1960 topps baseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't have the normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as to what it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:13:14 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1967 Topps Topps Red Sox Stickers (test issue) From: Larry Tipton I remember seeing an OBC member who had these listed as one of their top ten wants. I tried to remember who it was, but cant. Searching want lists hascome up blank. Please step forward to claim. ================= To: Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:49:02 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question From: "Matt Yudt" Sounds like something I came across a few months back - Here was Mike Rich's It is a wrong back and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards are known to exist, for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran "proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs have different backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or more of the colors on a card. Many of us enjoy these oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially), but it is not a variation. Lynn Miller and I had a phone call about wrong backs just last week. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matt Yudt To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? Hi all Going through Friday's pick-up at the philly show and came across a strange card I didn't see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on our library. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be #100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any number left or right side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to how the other 58's I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not just stuck together. Is this a known variation? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:43 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Salesman sample I would think.......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from John Dahms included below] I have been sorting some 1960 topps baseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't have the normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as to what it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= To: "yudts5@verizon.net" , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:43:45 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question From: Taylor Schock Respectfully, this isn't a wrong back by definition, since there is no cardfor which this back would be the "right" back. For the same reason, not a miscut either. The way the text is on the back also leads me to believe this was INTENDED to be printed that way, so I wouldn't think it was a a proof, which tend to be blank, have missing ink (though I can't see the front). It could be from a printer's test run, but with these the backs are probably not "correct" or are a mish-mosh of some other "scrap" printing on the side that wasn't being "tested". Salesman's sample is probably the most reasonable guess, and in looking at the card again, it might have been cut out from an advertising piece (whichcould also be a salesman's sample) based on the hand-cut looking lower edge, probably part of a larger piece (maybe 3-card panel). I think I read somewhere that 3-card panels were fairly common (relatively speaking) ways to promote the new sets, but I can't point to where/why I remember this. My bottom line guess, it was cut from a larger advertising piece, a subset of which would be salesman's samples. All guesses, of course, but wanted toprovide some reasoning behind them. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:49:02 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Sounds like something I came across a few months back - Here was Mike Rich=92s reply. It is a wrong back and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards are known to exist, for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran "proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs have different backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or more of the colors on a card. Many of us enjoy these oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially), but it is not a variation. Lynn Miller and I had a phone call about wrong backs just last week. Mike Rich From: Matt Yudt To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? Hi all through Friday=92s pick-up at the philly show and came across a strange card I didn=92t see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on our library. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be #100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any number left or right side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to how the other 58=92s I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not just stuck together. Is this a known variation? OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:43 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Salesman sample I would think.......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question [1 Attachment] from John Dahms included below] I have been sorting some 1960 topps baseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't have the normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as to what it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= To: yudts5@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 07:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Grant and Matt likely have it correct. Another possibility is that sometimes cards would be shown on a wax box and this could have been cut off a box. Most likely it is a printers proof. These are great oddities that I love. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: 'Matt Yudt' yudts5@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 10:45 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Sounds like something I came across a fewmonths back - Here was Mike Rich=E2=99s It is a wrongback and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards are known to exist,for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran"proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs havedifferent backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or moreof the colors on a Many of us enjoythese oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially),but it is not avariation. Lynn Miller and Ihad a phone call about wrong backs just last week. Mike Rich From: Matt Yudt To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? Hi all Goingthrough Friday=E2=99s pick-up at the philly show and came across a strangecard I didn=E2=99t see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on ourlibrary. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be#100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any number left orright side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to howthe other 58=E2=99s I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not juststuck together. Is this a known variation? From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:43PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question Salesman sample I would think.......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s)from John Dahms included below] I have been sorting some 1960 toppsbaseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't havethe normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as towhat it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintagebaseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virusfound in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, taylor_schock@hotmail.com, yudts5@verizon.net, Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 07:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I should have held my response until reading all the replies. Peter's attachment of the Net 54 thread is dead on. The link even has photos of a 19603 card salesman sample and it appears it is the exact same design as the one John posted. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: taylor_schock ; yudts5 ;obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 1:46 pm Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Here is a thread from Net54 with photos of many of the late 1950 early 1960s salesman samples. One of the posts from 2/6 has a 1960 three card sample. I believe you have one of the end cards of a three card saleman sample. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t132990 Peter Mead On 05/23/14, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Respectfully, this isn't a wrong back by definition, since there is no cardfor which this back would be the "right" back. For the same reason, not a miscut either. The way the text is on the back also leads me to believe this was INTENDED to be printed that way, so I wouldn't think it was a a proof, which tend to be blank, have missing ink (though I can't see the front). It could be from a printer's test run, but with these the backs are probably not "correct" or are a mish-mosh of some other "scrap" printing on the side that wasn't being "tested". Salesman's sample is probably the most reasonable guess, and in looking at the card again, it might have been cut out from an advertising piece (whichcould also be a salesman's sample) based on the hand-cut looking lower edge, probably part of a larger piece (maybe 3-card panel). I think I read somewhere that 3-card panels were fairly common (relatively speaking) ways to promote the new sets, but I can't point to where/why I remember this. My bottom line guess, it was cut from a larger advertising piece, a subset of which would be salesman's samples. All guesses, of course, but wanted toprovide some reasoning behind them. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:49:02 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Sounds like something I came across a fewmonths back - Here was Mike Rich=E2=99s It is a wrongback and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards are known to exist,for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran"proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs havedifferent backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or moreof the colors on a Many of us enjoythese oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially),but it is not avariation. Lynn Miller and Ihad a phone call about wrong backs just last week. Mike Rich From: Matt Yudt To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? Hi all Goingthrough Friday=E2=99s pick-up at the philly show and came across a strangecard I didn=E2=99t see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on ourlibrary. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be#100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any number left orright side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to howthe other 58=E2=99s I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not juststuck together. Is this a known variation? From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:43PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question Salesman sample I would think.......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s)from John Dahms included below] I have been sorting some 1960 toppsbaseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't havethe normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as towhat it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintagebaseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virusfound in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 05:14:13 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings Subject: eBay saved searches From: Rick This is the third day in a row I woke up to no saved searches in my email is anyone else having this problem. Sent from my iPad ================= To: "Rick" ,"=?utf-8?B?T0JDLVJhbWJsaW5ncw==?=" Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 09:27:14 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtPQkMtUmFtYmxpbmdzXSBlQmF5IHNhdmVkIHNlYXJjaGVz?From: "=?utf-8?B?d2hvbGxhX21AYmVsbHNvdXRoLm5ldA==?=" Content-Disposition: inline ================= Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:27:47 -0700 (PDT) To: "wholla_m@bellsouth.net" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay saved searches From: "glenncodere@yahoo.com" I think it may be something to do with the hacking issue and requirement tochange passwords. Hopefully back to normal soon. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 14:08:24 -0500 To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question From: MarkZ How much of a premium if any would there be for these over the regular card? Mark Zentkovich Sent from mark z ipod On May 24, 2014, at 6:58 AM, "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > I should have held my response until reading all the replies. Peter's attachment of the Net 54 thread is dead on. The link even has photos of a 1960 3 card salesman sample and it appears it is the exact same design as theone John posted. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] > To: taylor_schock ; yudts5 ; obc-ramblings > Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 1:46 pm > Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question > Here is a thread from Net54 with photos of many of the late 1950 early 1960s salesman samples. One of the posts from 2/6 has a 1960 three card sample. I believe you have one of the end cards of a three card saleman sample. > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t132990 > Peter Mead > On 05/23/14, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] > Respectfully, this isn't a wrong back by definition, since there is no card for which this back would be the "right" back. For the same reason, not a miscut either. The way the text is on the back also leads me to believe this was INTENDED to be printed that way, so I wouldn't think it was a a proof, which tend to be blank, have missing ink (though I can't see the front). It could be from a printer's test run, but with these the backs are probably not "correct" or are a mish-mosh of some other "scrap" printing on the side that wasn't being "tested". > Salesman's sample is probably the most reasonable guess, and in looking at the card again, it might have been cut out from an advertising piece (which could also be a salesman's sample) based on the hand-cut looking lower edge, probably part of a larger piece (maybe 3-card panel). I think I read somewhere that 3-card panels were fairly common (relatively speaking) ways to promote the new sets, but I can't point to where/why I remember this. > My bottom line guess, it was cut from a larger advertising piece, a subset of which would be salesman's samples. All guesses, of course, but wanted to provide some reasoning behind them. > Regards, > Taylor > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:49:02 -0400 > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question > Sounds like something I came across a fewmonths back - Here was Mike Rich=E2=99s > Matt, > It is a wrongback and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards are known to exist,for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran"proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs havedifferent backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or moreof the colors on a card. > Many of us enjoythese oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially), but it is not avariation. Lynn Miller and Ihad a phone call about wrongbacks just last week. > Mike Rich > -----OriginalMessage----- > From: Matt Yudt > To: obc-ramblings > Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? > Hi all > Goingthrough Friday=E2=99s pick-up at the philly show and came across a strangecard I didn=E2=99t see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on ourlibrary. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be#100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any numberleft orright side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to howthe other 58=E2=99s I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not juststuck together. Is this a known variation? > Thanks! > Matt > From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:43PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question > Salesman sample I would think.......... > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] > Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM > To: OBC ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question [1 Attachment] > [Attachment(s)from John Dahms included below] > I have been sorting some 1960 toppsbaseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't havethe normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as towhat it is. > thanks > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintagebaseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ > No virusfound in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= To: mzentko@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 23:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Prices are all over the map for these types of items. Sometimes they are in junk boxes and others put a big premium on them. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: MarkZ To: mikesportsfan Cc: hoot_owl1 ; taylor_schock ; yudts5 ; obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, May 24, 2014 9:37 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question How much of a premium if any would there be for these over the regular card? Mark Zentkovich Sent from mark z ipod On May 24, 2014, at 6:58 AM, "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" I should have held my response until reading all the replies. Peter's attachment of the Net 54 thread is dead on. The link even has photos of a 19603 card salesman sample and it appears it is the exact same design as the one John posted. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: taylor_schock ; yudts5 ;obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, May 23, 2014 1:46 pm Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Here is a thread from Net54 with photos of many of the late 1950 early 1960s salesman samples. One of the posts from 2/6 has a 1960 three card sample. I believe you have one of the end cards of a three card saleman sample. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t132990 Peter Mead On 05/23/14, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Respectfully, this isn't a wrong back by definition, since there is no cardfor which this back would be the "right" back. For the same reason, not a miscut either. The way the text is on the back also leads me to believe this was INTENDED to be printed that way, so I wouldn't think it was a a proof, which tend to be blank, have missing ink (though I can't see the front). It could be from a printer's test run, but with these the backs are probably not "correct" or are a mish-mosh of some other "scrap" printing on the side that wasn't being "tested". Salesman's sample is probably the most reasonable guess, and in looking at the card again, it might have been cut out from an advertising piece (whichcould also be a salesman's sample) based on the hand-cut looking lower edge, probably part of a larger piece (maybe 3-card panel). I think I read somewhere that 3-card panels were fairly common (relatively speaking) ways to promote the new sets, but I can't point to where/why I remember this. My bottom line guess, it was cut from a larger advertising piece, a subset of which would be salesman's samples. All guesses, of course, but wanted toprovide some reasoning behind them. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 10:49:02 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 topps question Sounds like something I came across a fewmonths back - Here was Mike Rich=E2=99s It is a wrongback and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards are known to exist,for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran"proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs havedifferent backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or moreof the colors on a Many of us enjoythese oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially),but it is not avariation. Lynn Miller and Ihad a phone call about wrong backs just last week. Mike Rich From: Matt Yudt To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? Hi all Goingthrough Friday=E2=99s pick-up at the philly show and came across a strangecard I didn=E2=99t see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on ourlibrary. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be#100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any number left orright side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to howthe other 58=E2=99s I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not juststuck together. Is this a known variation? From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:43PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question Salesman sample I would think.......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] Sent: May-22-14 6:41 PM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960topps question [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s)from John Dahms included below] I have been sorting some 1960 toppsbaseball stumbled upon a wally post card but it didn't havethe normal back. I have attached a photo of the back...just curious as towhat it is. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintagebaseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virusfound in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4592 / Virus Database: 3950/7543 - Release Date: 05/22/14 ================= To: Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 05:40:19 -0500 Subject: Re: eBay saved searches From: "George Vrechek" no saved searches here either. Thanks for asking the question in that we all probably were starting to wonder. ================= Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:01:54 -0700 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: eBay saved searches From: Rick I have had it happen before but it was a day or two at the most then they came back but it's been five days now. Not sure if its on my end or an eBay problem. Sent from my iPad > On May 25, 2014, at 3:40 AM, "'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > no saved searches here either. Thanks for asking the question in that we all probably were starting to wonder. > George ================= To: "obc" Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 05:01:19 -0500 Subject: e-bay searches From: "ken goetsch" I received my first e-bay searches today[for the first time in awhile]...................I did change my password yesterday, I don't know if that madea Ken Goetsch ================= To: Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 05:21:22 -0500 Subject: Re: eBay saved searches From: "George Vrechek" I changed my eBay password and the saved searches resumed. ================= Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 08:15:05 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: National Hotel booked! From: cardclctor@aol.com Hi gang, I finally got some alone time this weekend and looked into this summer's National trip to Cleveland. I'm staying a full week from July 28th to August 4th. The hotel is a short drive from the I-X center (11 miles, 20 minutes) but it's only gonna set me back an average of $32/night, so I can live with that. I booked through Orbitz.if anyone else wants to try, although I think the price I got represents a weekly rate. I also reserved a room with two double beds, as I've come to find out that room mates would reduce my costs even further - and give me more spending money for cards! Here's the address for the place: Motel 6 Cleveland Intl Airport 32751 Lorain Rd, (I-80/90 at North Olmsted Road, Exit #152), North Ridgeville, OH 44039 I count only nine more weeks until my arrival. There's still plenty of time to make your plans to attend. All of my future messages will be directed to our OBC National server, but I wanted to ask if anyone: 1) who just joined the group, 2) has never been to an OBC National gathering, 3) was thinking about going to the National Convention 4) or just wanted to see what all the fuss is about wants to be added to the OBC-National server, LMK. I think I still have moderator status on that one - simply state your desire by replying to this I'm going to look into a small conference room to hold our annual swap. I've gotten one in Cleveland (and other cities) a couple times before for usually around $5/attendee including the cost of food. The Rangers (Tue., Wed., Thur) and Reds (Fri., Sat., Sun) visit the Indians that week, so a ball game or two might also be part of our schedule - which is usually made up as we go along... sometimes taking the 'scenic route'. That's all I have for now. Hope to see a bunch of you there! TAYL, Ken M ================= To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 10:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: mikesportsfan@aol.com At the risk of speaking for him, if we have enough cars to transport the guys, I believe Sam Taylor has offered to host the swap. He lives about 30 minutes from the convention center. His collection is amazing and worth thetrip to see it. Then basement also has as much room as some of the placeswe have arranged for in the past. We could do our usual pizza and chickenwings OR possibly BBQ. Certainly a lot easier to bring in beer for those that would want it. Sam do NOT feel this compels you to host, I just want to make sure we do not reserve a place if you wish to host. The ballpark is only 15 minutes from the convention center, and historically we have gone to games on Friday nite, although Thursday nite is also a possibility. I must be looking at a different schedule as I show the Mariners through Thursday nite, followed by the Rangers on the weekend. The Redsdo not hit town until the Monday after the show. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, May 26, 2014 8:15 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! Hi gang, I finally got some alone time this weekend and looked into this summer'sNational trip to Cleveland. I'm staying a full week from July 28th to August 4th. The hotel is a short drive from the I-X center (11 miles, 20 minutes) but it's only gonna set me back an average of $32/night, so I can live with that. I booked through Orbitz.if anyone else wants to try, although I think the price I got represents a weekly rate. I also reserved a room with two double beds, as I've come to find out that room mates would reduce my costs even further - and give me more spending money for cards! Here's the address for the place: Motel 6 Cleveland Intl Airport 32751 Lorain Rd, (I-80/90 at North Olmsted Road, Exit #152), North Ridgeville, OH 44039 I count only nine more weeks until my arrival. There's still plenty of timeto make your plans to attend. All of my future messages will be directed to our OBC National server, but I wanted to ask if anyone: 1) who just joined the group, 2) has never been to an OBC National gathering, 3) was thinking about going to the National Convention 4) or just wanted to see what all the fuss is about wants to be added to the OBC-National server, LMK. I think I still have moderator status on that one - simply state your desire by replying to this message. I'm going to look into a small conference room to hold our annual swap. I've gotten one in Cleveland (and other cities) a couple times before for usually around $5/attendee including the cost of food. The Rangers (Tue., Wed., Thur) and Reds (Fri., Sat., Sun) visit the Indiansthat week, so a ball game or two might also be part of our schedule - which is usually made up as we go along... sometimes taking the 'scenic route'.That's all I have for now. Hope to see a bunch of you there! TAYL, Ken M ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 11:43:02 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: richard dingman I certainly want to be part of the National server, not sure if I need to do anything to make that happen. Sam Taylor's place sounds great, but if it doesn't happen, I think it would be possible to get a free room at one of the motels we will be staying at. I was able to do it for the last 2 years in Chicago. I will be there for the full week and can check with mine which is within a mile or two from the Richard D To: cardclctor@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 10:36:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! At the risk of speaking for him, if we have enough cars to transport the guys, I believe Sam Taylor has offered to host the swap. He lives about 30 minutes from the convention center. His collection is amazing and worth thetrip to see it. Then basement also has as much room as some of the placeswe have arranged for in the past. We could do our usual pizza and chickenwings OR possibly BBQ. Certainly a lot easier to bring in beer for those that would want it. Sam do NOT feel this compels you to host, I just want to make sure we do not reserve a place if you wish to host. The ballpark is only 15 minutes from the convention center, and historically we have gone to games on Friday nite, although Thursday nite is also a possibility. I must be looking at a different schedule as I show the Mariners through Thursday nite, followed by the Rangers on the weekend. The Redsdo not hit town until the Monday after the show. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, May 26, 2014 8:15 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! I finally got some alone time this weekend and looked into this summer's National trip to Cleveland. I'm staying a full week from July 28th to August 4th. The hotel a short drive from the I-X center (11 miles, 20 minutes) but it's only gonna me back an average of $32/night, so I can live with that. I booked through Orbitz.if anyone else wants to try, although I think the price I got represents a weekly rate. I also reserved a room with two double beds, as I've come to find out that room mates would reduce my costs even further - and give me more spending money for cards! Here's the address for the place: Motel 6 Cleveland Intl Airport 32751 Lorain Rd, (I-80/90 at North Olmsted Road, Exit #152), North Ridgeville, OH 44039 I count only nine more weeks until my arrival. There's still plenty of time to make your plans to attend. All of my future messages will be directed to our OBC National server, but I wanted to ask if anyone: 1) who just joined the 2) has never been to an OBC National gathering, 3) was thinking about going to the National Convention 4) or just wanted to see what all the fuss is about wants to be added to the OBC-National server, LMK. I think I still have moderator status on that one- simply state your desire by replying to this message. I'm going to look into a small conference room to hold our annual swap. I've gotten one in Cleveland(and other cities) a couple times before for usually around $5/attendee including the cost of food. The Rangers (Tue., Wed., Thur) and Reds (Fri., Sat., Sun) visit the Indians that week, so a ball game or two might also be part of our schedule - which is usually made up as go along... sometimes taking the 'scenic route'. That's all I have for now.Hope to see a bunch of you there! TAYL, ================= Date: 26 May 2014 09:22:34 -0700 To: Subject: National Attendance From: mikesportsfan@aol.com ================= To: mikesportsfan@aol.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 12:34:01 -0400 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtPQkMtUmFtYmxpbmdzXSBOYXRpb25hbCBBdHRlbmRhbmNl?From: "John" Content-Disposition: inline ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 12:39:26 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: eBay saved searches From: richard dingman To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 05:21:22 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: eBay saved searches I changed my eBay password and the saved searches resumed. ================= Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 09:40:21 -0700 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: eBay saved searches From: Rick Me too Sent from my iPad > On May 26, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Ditto. > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 05:21:22 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: eBay saved searches > I changed my eBay password and the saved searches resumed. > George ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 18:42:11 GMT Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 20:58:36 GMT Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:46:13 -0400 To: "cardclctor@aol.com" , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" ================= Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 17:53:02 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en as of now, i plan to be at the show on Thursday and saturday, with possible Sunday and less likely wednesday. i will probably take Friday off. probably staying with family and probably will not attend Friday indians plans will become more definate as the time gets closer. In a message dated 5/26/2014 4:46:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: I plan to drive up, friday saturday sunday at least. Sent from my LG phone "'cardclctor@aol.com' cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 14:56:10 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Apologies and Little League From: Jeffrey Whitworth I just wanted to send out some apologies for my recent inactivity in the group. My son who is 7 years old tried out for Minors (9-10 years old) in ourlocal Little League and was invited to play in the league. He's a stud. Consequently I volunteered to coach a team and ran for a position on the board. I was handed the Cubs to coach and was elected the Majors Player Agent. Needless to say I have been at the ball fields nearly every night since thelast week of March. Last week I was voted to coach the Minors All-Star team to the National Tournament, of which I'm very proud. I promise to be more involved in this great group once the season ends. That's unless our team makes it to the LL World Seriesin Williamsport PA. :) You gotta dream! ================= Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 23:40:44 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Waiver WIre: 1961 Jay Publishing Picture Pack 5X7 Photos From: Jeffrey Whitworth Anyone out there want these? Send your address, take them all. Roger Craig, Mets Elio Chacon, Mets Bob Turley, Yankees Whitey Ford, Yankees Ralph Houk, Yankees Cletus Boyer, Yankees Tony Kubek, Yankees Bobby Richardson, Yankees ================= Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 04:14:06 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Insuring Your Collection? From: Mike Mackie Hey everyone I'm pretty sure this has been discussed in the past but I couldn't locate it in my email archives. Just wondering how many of you out there have insurance policies on your collection, if so how did you document the collection for insurance purposes (appraisal, photos, etc) and do you have an agency you'd recommend? Mike Mackie ================= Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 07:49:08 -0400 To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! From: "Samuel E. Taylor" I would LOVE to host the swap this year. My wife will be leaving that weekend, and the house will be all mine. Mike Rich and a few guys came over during the great snowstorm of Strongsville, and they think I have enough room in the basement. I can order pizza and wings, but if Ken wants to grill, I'd gladly accept. We just need a general head count and arrange transportation. It's actuallycloser to 45 minutes from the I-X Center. ALL are welcome!!! Sam Taylor Sent from Sam's iPhone On May 26, 2014, at 10:36 AM, "mikesportsfan@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > At the risk of speaking for him, if we have enough cars to transport the guys, I believe Sam Taylor has offered to host the swap. He lives about 30minutes from the convention center. His collection is amazing and worth the trip to see it. Then basement also has as much room as some of the places we have arranged for in the past. We could do our usual pizza and chicken wings OR possibly BBQ. Certainly a lot easier to bring in beer for those that would want it. > Sam do NOT feel this compels you to host, I just want to make sure we do not reserve a place if you wish to host. > The ballpark is only 15 minutes from the convention center, and historically we have gone to games on Friday nite, although Thursday nite is also apossibility. I must be looking at a different schedule as I show the Mariners through Thursday nite, followed by the Rangers on the weekend. The Reds do not hit town until the Monday after the show. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: cardclctor@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] > To: obc-ramblings > Sent: Mon, May 26, 2014 8:15 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National Hotel booked! > Hi gang, > I finally got some alone time this weekend and looked into this summer's National trip to Cleveland. I'm staying a full week from July 28th to August 4th. The hotel is a short drive from the I-X center (11 miles, 20 minutes) but it's only gonna set me back an average of $32/night, so I can livewith that. I booked through Orbitz.if anyone else wants to try, although Ithink the price I got represents a weekly rate. I also reserved a room with two double beds, as I've come to find out that room mates would reduce mycosts even further - and give me more spending money for cards! Here's theaddress for the place: > Motel 6 Cleveland Intl Airport 32751 Lorain Rd, (I-80/90 at North OlmstedRoad, Exit #152), North Ridgeville, OH 44039 > I count only nine more weeks until my arrival. There's still plenty of time to make your plans to attend. All of my future messages will be directedto our OBC National server, but I wanted to ask if anyone: > 1) who just joined the group, > 2) has never been to an OBC National gathering, > 3) was thinking about going to the National Convention > 4) or just wanted to see what all the fuss is about > wants to be added to the OBC-National server, LMK. I think I still have moderator status on that one - simply state your desire by replying to this message. > I'm going to look into a small conference room to hold our annual swap. I've gotten one in Cleveland (and other cities) a couple times before for usually around $5/attendee including the cost of food. > The Rangers (Tue., Wed., Thur) and Reds (Fri., Sat., Sun) visit the Indians that week, so a ball game or two might also be part of our schedule - which is usually made up as we go along... sometimes taking the 'scenic route'. That's all I have for now. Hope to see a bunch of you there! TAYL, > Ken M ================= Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 10:36:55 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: RE: Waiver WIre: 1961 Jay Publishing Picture Pack 5X7 Photos From: Jeffrey Whitworth All have been claimed. Thanks!

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================= To: Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 16:13:05 -0500 Subject: Two Books to highly recommend with sports figures - but with no baseball cards From: "George Vrechek" I've read two books recently which I would highly recommend. Boys in the Boat is the story of Joe Rantz and the University of Washington 8-man crew's road to the 1936 Olympics. Talk about a difficult childhood and Unbroken is the story of Louis Zamperini's survival as a downed pilot and prisoner of war. Zamperini ran in the 1936 Olympics and is still alive. Both are incredible stories of perseverance and endurance. Neither athlete had any cards from their time that can be collected (that I know of), but their stories are fantastic. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 07:55:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Insuring Your Collection? From: "George Vrechek" Standard policies seem to exclude collectibles. Separate policies for collectibles are available through brokers. However the annual cost to insure say $100,000, as I recall, was about $500 per year, which seemed not worth it. Advice I have heard is to put the most valuable cards in a safe deposit box, which doesn't necessarily protect them from water and smoke damage. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has received quotes recently for coverage. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:28:21 -0400 (EDT) To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Insuring Your Collection? From: bskp1@aol.com Content-Language: en I am paying an annual premium of $100 for $20,000 in coverage under a separate policy linked to my Homeowners' policy. BR, Chuck In a message dated 05/28/2014 8:57:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: Standard policies seem to exclude collectibles. Separate policies for collectibles are available through brokers. However the annual cost to insure say $100,000, as I recall, was about $500 per year, which seemed not worth it. Advice I have heard is to put the most valuable cards in a safe deposit box, which doesn=E2=99t necessarily protect them from water and smoke damage. d be interested in hearing if anyone else has received quotes recently for George Vrechek ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Insuring Your Collection? From: Joshua Levine I, and many others on Net54, use CollectInsure.com...it is tailored towardscollectibles and is often cheaper than a rider on your homeowners. It alsodoes not require a complete accounting. Mine policy is great because it covers my collection even when I am transporting it, and my coverage gradually increases because i set an amount of my monthly expenditure towards my hobby. I think the prices are reasonable as well. -----Original Message----- From: 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, May 28, 2014 5:57 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Insuring Your Collection? Standard policies seem to exclude collectibles. Separate policies for collectibles are available through brokers. However the annual cost to insure say $100,000, as I recall, was about $500 per year, which seemed not worth it. Advice I have heard is to put the most valuable cards in a safe deposit box, which doesn=E2=99t necessarily protect them from water and smoke damage. I=E2=99d be interested in hearing if anyone else has received quotes recently for coverage. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:25:07 -0400 (EDT) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: hoops help From: smartalecx@aol.com while i have beckett online for both baseball and football, i do not have any recent price guides for basketball. can someone help me with a value on a 1971-72 topps set in vg and or ex Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 02:28:51 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: '55T Clemente RC - Legit or not? From: Glenn Codere What do you think guys? Looks too good at that price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item201098617463&ssPageNameADME:B:SS:US:1123#ht_24wt_1362 Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 11:02:24 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '55T Clemente RC - Legit or not? From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 11:07:51 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '55T Clemente RC - Legit or not? From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= To: Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 09:09:58 -0500 Subject: Articles on Sports Collectibles Museums and set collecting From: "George Vrechek" Thanks to spending the winter in California, I was able to visit two sports collectibles museums in the LA area and write stories about them for SCD. Those articles have now appeared in SCD and consequently I can post them to our website. (Thanks Joe Isaac for adding them in.) There are very few places where you can see large collections including baseball cards, although every dealer will bring whatever they can sell to a card show. Unfortunately the two museums I visited aren't easily viewable either. John Hamilton's Newport Beach Sports Museum is in the process of being auctioned off since he has decided to sell his collection and close the museum. (He sold the first installment for $1+ million) Gary Cypres's Sports Museum of Los Angeles is still going, but not open to the general public. Cypres has all kinds of things including some great baseball cards. He estimated the value of the collection at over $25 million. The articles can be found on our "The Library" page under "Places to See" and are the 3rd and 5th articles listed. I thought the stuff Cypres has was very interesting. A portion of it is on loan and can be seen at the Ronald Reagan Library. Several months from now, I'll be able to post the 5 articles I wrote on set collecting once those appear in SCD. Many OBCers provided information for those articles as to the number of vintage cards in their collections. The articles cover baseball, football, basketball, hockey, and other vintage sports sets. While I can't post them yet on the library page, if you want a copy of any of the draft articles let me know. I've already sent drafts to many OBCers. As Buck Barker said, once you have run out of cards to easily collect, you are reduced to being no more than a hobby writer. George Vrechek ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 15:34:56 -0400 Subject: 2014 Topps Archives From: Shawn Smart Does anyone know why Topps decided to re-use the 1980 design that was just used for the 2012 Archives set? I mean there are only about 50 other yearsto choose from that have not been used yet....disappointing. ================= Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:09:37 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Subject: 74 kelloggs, one to go From: mark zentkovich need1974 33 Dick Allen, any condition, any heroes out there have one I can trade for? thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:27:21 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , Subject: 69 and 70 topps set needs and dupes available for trade From: John Dahms hey guys and gals. this goes under the heading.....I really don't know why.....after all the cards were sorted from my thrift store find and adding them to my dupes I found I had a good number of the cards for the69 and 70 topps sets. so I am going to try and put together a 2nd set of each. I am also doing this to try and get rid of some of my 71 and 72 dupes in the process. I have made a list of my dupes from the 69 and 70 sets and will list them along with my set needs on this email. I have way too many 71 and 72 and will look through lists if you want. So, if you have some of my needs and need any from these 4 years letshelp each other out. my needs are as always any condition, butI would love vg and better. my dupes are the gammit of condition. the only thing I ask is to please email me a list of cards beforesending so I don't get too many more dupes..... thanks for the longread and have a great weekend. 1969 topps wantlist 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 20 21 22 24 25 26 27 28 30 31 32 33 3538 40 41 42 43 45 46 49 50 53 55 57 59 63 64 65 67 69 70 72 77 80 82 83 8586 87 90 93 95 98 99 100 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 114 119 120 121 122 123 124 127 130 132 133 134 137 138 140 141 144 145 146 150 151 152 153 155 156 157 158 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 173174 175 176 178 180 180 182 183 184 187 188 189 190 191 192 194 195 196 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 206 207 209 210 211 212 213 214 216 218 219 224 228 235 237 238 241 244 250 255 256 260 262 266 269 270 272 274 277 282 295 296 299 300 302 308 309 310 311 314 315 320 326 328 330 333 334 335 338 340353 355 358 359 370 371 372 375 376 379 383 385 388 390 392 393 394 395 397 398 400 402 410 412 416 418 419 420 421 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 438 440 441 442 444 447 449 450 453 455 456 457 459 460 462 465 466 468 469 475 476 478 479 480 481 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 492 495 496 497 498 499 503 504 506 510 511 512 513 514 516 517 518 519 521 522 523 528 530 532 533 535 536 539 540 542 545 546 547 548 550 551 554 555 556 558 559 560 561 563 564 565 566 567 568 570 572 573 574 575 576 577 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597598 600 601 602 610 611 616 619 621 623 624 626 628 630 631 632 634 637 640 646 650 651 654 657 658 659 6690 662 665 on up=E2=A6 69=E2=99s available for trade 15 23 44 58 61 62 66 68 71 73 74 78 89 91 92 96 97 118 135 142 149 154 159 186 205 215 217 220 222 223 225 231 234 247 253 254 259 275 279 280 281 285286 288 290 292 293 297 306 316 317 318 319 325 329 332 337 341 344 352 354 356 360 362 363 364 366 367 373 374 378 396 387 389 391 396 403 404 405 406 407 408 411 414 415 437 443 445 446 448 458 463 467 470 471 472 494 505 515 526 529 549 552 557 569 578 603 606 607 609 614 615 617 620 627 629 642643 645 649 653 656 1970 topps wantlist 1 5 6 8 9 10 12 19 20 21 22 24 28 29 30 33 40 45 52 54 66 61 62 63 64 65 6667 68 69 70 71 72 90 95 96 97 98 99 101 103 115 116 121 125 129 131 132 134 140 141 147 149 150 152 157 160 162 164 165 168 169 170 172 173 174 177 180 181 182 185 186 188 189 190 192 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 204 207 208 210 211 213 215 218 220 226 228 230 231 235 236 238 240 242 244 250 252258 259 260 261 269 270 285 286 288 289 290 291 293 295 300 301 302 304 305 306 307 308 310 311 312 313 319 321 323 330 331 332 333 334 335 340 341 343 350 354 355 356 360 365 369 377 380 383 388 393 394 396 400 403 407 410 411 420 423 424 425 428 429 432 436 440 443 445 446 450 451 453 455 456 457458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 470 475 480 482 486 490 491 497 500 501 502 505 506 508 515 517 520 528 530 533 537 538 539 542 550 553 554 555 560 562 564 565 567 571 574 577 579 580 585 588 591 592 593 595 599 600 601 605 608 610 611 615 617 620 621 622 630 634 638 640 641 643 645 648 649 654 656 660 661 666 670 677 680 682 683 685 688 691 692 697 698 699 700 702 703706 709 712 713 715 717 721 on up 70's available 4 14 15 16 25 31 34 39 41 42 43 44 46 48 50 51 57 59 75 80 89 102 108 112 117 118 120 163 178 212 237 251 267 273 277 284 298 316 318 325 328 337 338 345 357 361 362 370 371 378 379 382 384 385 386 389 391 401 402 413 414 415417 419 421 441 442 452 454 476 478 498 504 507 513 514 519 521 522 524 525 526 531 536 540 557 578 583 597 604 612 613 618 619 624 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 07:40:54 +0000 (UTC) To: "" , "" Subject: Early thanks, short ramble From: familytoad@comcast.net I am in the cozy home of Mr. and Mrs. Dave Fallen for the weekend and its begun with a bang! It would normally take 3 hours to drive here from my home in SW WA, but todays late start and traffic made it a 5 hour trip....its only about 200 miles but Fridays mean sharing the road with another million friends. But as I finally got here in Arlington, it was right at dinner time. Mae Phim Thai restaurant has become one of my favorites...and is now an official itinerary staple of my trips! Umm...next time it's MY turn to pick up the check, Dave! We go back to watch the Mariners and rest for the big day at the WSSCA Card show with full bellies! Mariners lose to the Tigers but the ice cream soothes. Back on the topic of baseball cards, Dave surprised me in a big way, handing me a SGC slabbed C46 Gaunt! He says, "I know you don't already have this one..." I reply, "How do you know that?" Dave says" Because you asked about buying it on Net54, but someone got there first and beat you to it...that guy was me!" That was a month or two ago, at least..and I'd forgotten all about it. Man, that was one of the funniest, coolest stories I've been able to tell in a long time! I thought some East Coast collector derailed me before I got out of work , but I love how it worked out. An OBC Classic!! So while the clock is technically on Saturday, the weekend with Dave has just begun and I'm one happy camper already!! Hope to catch up with Rick Lyons Saturday night too, that would really be nice! Oh, and then there's the baseball card show that used to be the main reason I would be coming this way. Now the main reason is really to hang out with my OBC pals. So as usual cards are great, but they are second place! OBC Forever! Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ================= Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Need a '75 set hero From: Thomas Elliott Hello good people of OBC, I am down to one card to complete my 1975 Topps set. It's No. 217 Lou Piniella. I'll try hard to send return fire if I can. Now, excuse me for my ramble. Completing the '75 set is primarily a credit to OBC. When I joined the clubin September, 2010, I had maybe 20 '75s. I had so many other goals that I doubted it'd ever get done, short of a cash windfall of some sort (inheritance? lottery?). Then I discovered that this club helps want lists disappearquickly. I went through and counted 23 OBC members (or at least they were members atthe time) who helped pare that want list down to one, including just aboutall of the key cards (George Brett, Jim Rice and Gary Carter rookies, Nolan Ryan, Hank Aaron, Mike Schmidt, etc., etc.). Here is one more shout-out to those fine folks. They are:Joe Adriance, Dan Angland, Bill Ashton, Brian Betza (twice), Jason Christopherson (twice),Glenn Codere, Linda Fitak (twice), Larry Gersbach, Kent Goto, Andy Huntoon, Tom Housley, Brian Lindholme, Rick Lyons, Lynn Miller (three times), MikeMroz (twice), Rich Niessen, Nick Pelletier, Rob Reed, Mike Rumley-Wells, George Vrechek, Randy Welk (twice), Jeff Whitworth (twice) and Matt Yudt. With their help, and many others, I am now down to 11 cards to complete my 1970s Topps run. All 11 are those pesky, high-number, short-print, 1971s that non-OBCers obsess over because Black Beauties are so condition-sensitive. I thought that completing the '70s Topps run was a realistic goal when I joined OBC, something that might take a decade or so. I doubted I'd really make much of a dent into anything else, except for maybe the '61s that are mybirth-year set. I had been working on the '61s for many years. Wrong again, thanks to OBC. I'm thinking I have a good shot at doing a '60sTopps run, though Mickey Mantle cards cost a lot more than any of the '70stough cards. I also have accumulated enough '50s cards that even some of those sets seem possibly attainable. At this point, my lone regret is that I didn't discover OBC sooner. Before 2010, I rarely ventured on the internet to find information on cards. I don't know why. I just know I'm glad I did. Thanks everybody for putting up with the ramble. OBC is indeed wonderful, Tom Elliott ================= Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 10:16:11 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: The next new 1952 Topps variation From: Patrick Prickett Hi All, Continuing my plan to slowly release the unknown variations in the 1952 Topps set .. today's new variation is: #283 Phil Masi. This one is much harder to spot than the Shantz (and appears to have underwhelmed the one person who already knows about it!), but I'll release it today anyway. Like the Shantz, the Masi comes with 3 variations. Unlike the Shantz, to find it will take a lot of effort and you'dneed tolook at a lot different cards. To make your life easier, I am attachinglinks to Ebay - one for each of the variations (it's still going to be tough to spot the variation - so as a hint, think about the Shantz card when looking for the variation). Version #1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-Phil-Masi-283-PSA-EX-MT-6-/360930794931?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem540926ddb3 Version #2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-283-Phil-Masi-PSA-8-NM-MT-0793-/350855440549?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem51b09d28a5 Version #3: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-283-Phil-Masi-PSA-8-NM-MT-7743-/290960961341?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem43be9fef3d And for those of you who really want to go down this rabbit hole ... it could be argued that there is a variation #1 ... and a continuum of variationsfor #2 and #3. I prefer to limit it to the two variations I have listed... but that's my opinion. I can certainly understand those arguing fora As for those of you concerned about rarity and value ... all three variations appear in roughly equal numbers. BUT there were at least twice as many Shantz's originally printed (probably closer to 2.5 times) andif master set collectors decide they want these ... well then the Masi will end up being more valuable than the Shantz ... because there are a lot fewer of them to go around. Again, PLEASE do not share this information outside of this type collector circle. I'll stop releasing my info if the dealer's start jacking up theprices on these. My goal is to let the real collector's get these in their collections without getting gouged by the dealers. As always, if you can't spot it ... email me and I'll tell you ... but it'smore fun finding it on your own. ================= Date: 31 May 2014 12:51:07 -0700 To: Subject: just ramblin" From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 19:14:53 -0400 Subject: Anyone got Horrors of War dupes? From: richard dingman I need: 7, 11, 19, 31, 33-4, 48, 50, 71, 73, 86-7, 91, 99, 109-10, 123,127, 129, 138, 140, 151, 155-8, 164-7, 172-3, 178, 181, 183, 189, 191, 193-7, 199-207, 209-10, 215, 218, 220, 223, 228, 231-40, 244-8, 250-5, 257, 261-5, 269, 271, 273-80. Any whole condition acceptable. Have for trade (conditions approximate fast guesses): 2 g, 5 f, 10 f/g, 13f, 14 vg, 15 g+, 17 vg st, 18 g, 20 g, 24 g/vg and vg, 25 vg, 29 g, 36 p slight trim, 37 g/vg, 39 f, 41 g/vg, 43 vg-, 44 vg-, 49 g, 51 g+, 53 g+, 56 vg, 60 p/f, 61 g+ and g/vg, 62 vg-, 64 p, 65 g, 66 g/vg and vg, 67 g, 70 f,77 g/vg, 80 vg-, 82 vg-, 83 vg-, 84 vg+, 85 p, 92 g, 94 vg/vgx, 100 g+, 101 f, 102 g/vg and vg, 105 f, 106 p/f, 108 g, 118 g/vg, 119 g+, 121 g+, 133 p, 143 p/f, 144 g+, 149 vg-, 154 vg, 159 vg, 171 g/vg, 174 vg, 179 f, 185 g, 186 vg-, 190 g+. Richard D ================= To: Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 23:47:11 -0400 Subject: major score! From: "Matt Yudt" My kid had a baseball game today about 15 minutes from Randy's Sportscards in Quakertown PA, so being he had to be there an hour before the game, what's a dad (that doesn't coach anymore) to do? Of course. Besides, I have some major shopping to do for some recent OBC generosity, especially a certain mid-west OBCer with initials WS... Anyway, Randy is pouring over a recent collection he bought and chatting with another customer, greets me and within 5 minutes shows me what he just acquired - the #1 card on my want list - 1966 #591, The Jackson/Shirley Rookie Card!. In nice shape too, probably VG/EX. What's he want? ..$80. I got him to throw in about $5 of some other kellogs cards and a 72 Kaline in his $1 bin, so I'm going to say I got it for $75. A search of ebay recent closed listings confirms my purchase being a good deal, and now leaves me with a certain 63 Rookie card, a handful of 52 hi#'s and some greenie variations to complete my Phillies topps run. Oh, anyone need a 72 Al Kaline (#600)? Matt Yudt