================= To: , Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 06:45:51 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? I thought Mike Rich might be lurking in the weeds before blowing all the numbers out of the water. I=E2=99ll send my fancy spreadsheet with Mike=E2=99s numbers to him to see (about) what his total is and report back. The Canadian cards will add considerably to the totals, but heck, he=E2=99s practically in Canada. From: mikesportsfan@aol.com [mailto:mikesportsfan@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 10:33 PM To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you haveanyway? Great! I was still counting up my baseball and not I need to stop to countFB??? For years, I had considered myself a FB specialist, but I know Bob Swick (he now is founder and editor of Gridiron Greats FB magazine). His FB collection surpasses mine. A quick thumbnail is below by George's comments: Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 11:33 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanks for the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cardsyou have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you=E2=99ve worked on the =E2=9Cpopular=E2=9D sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. Now I=E2=99m looking for input on vintage football. My question is how many vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collect football, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. Let& #8217;s define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quicklyfigure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers =E2=93 =B7 If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards - Complete =B7 If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you=E2=99d have 792 cards - Complete =B7 & nbsp; All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, (complete, but George did not count the 1963 checklist or the 1961 Wallet cards. I have the checklist, but only a couple type cards of the wallet cards.) in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer (have 26 of 28 72 Quiz, 73 Scouting Report, 74-75 HOF, 76-80 Team Action sets, need 4 1968 Big League signs, and have the 74 Big League Sign set). =B7 Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards - still missing #99 in 1952 Bowman Large. Others complete =B7 Other sets: 1950 Topps (100) - still need 11, Topps 1951 (75) - complete, 1962 Post (200) - complete, 1970 Kellogg (60) complete, 1971 Kellogg (60) complete, Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards) (only have 5 total), 1961 Nu-Card (80) complete, Exhibits (60+) (only have 12), 1948 Leaf (98) (tough set have 73 of 98), 1949 Leaf (49) (damn gremlin - need 1), Wonder Bread1974-6 78 cards (complete, plus some Town Talk and Blank sponsor cards). =B7 If you have the 1894 Mayo (just a type card and A REPRINT SET) and 1935 National Chicle $ets (need 11 of 36), you don=E2=99t have toanswer any questions. =B7 To make life easy, let=E2=99s forget Topps inserts (have most, but many pre-1968s are very tough), posters complete), team checklists (complete, but variations) etc. I=E2=99ll assume some numbers. =B7 Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks (fun sets, makingprogress), bucks (complete), decals (not sure what these are, unless they are the Nu Card and Fleer stickers from 1960 era), Coke caps (Gary Mandell and Don Rice have more, but I have thousand +), and anything that doesn=E2=99t look lik e a card =B7 And forget anything after 1980 =B7 Add in any other vintage football I didn=E2=99t mention (Bell Brand (just a type card or 2), Bazooka ( no 59s and only a few 71s), Bread for Health (NONE), OPC (complete), Topps CFL (complete), etc) Other issues - Berk Ross (most FB), Wheaties (all FB), Mayrose Cardinals (need 6), Lake to Lake Packers (just a few), Tresler Comet Bengals (have 9), 1963 Steelers IDL (have 7), 1979 & 1980 Stop N Go (need 30 combined), 1952Parkhurst CFL (have 60 of 100), 1962 & 1963 Post CFL (need 20 of 297), 1980 Buffalo Bills Bells (complete), 1976 Cranes Discs (complete), 1976 Popsicle (have both NFC & AFC sets) and a few assorted team issues. If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you=E2=99d have 11,800 cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issueswhich will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like you find in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I=E2=99ll figure out the total number of vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you=E2=99d have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plenty of expensive ones yet to go. I=E2=99ll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonableball-park number, if you don=E2=99t want to undo the rubber bands from your George Vrechek PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= Date: 01 Apr 2014 08:38:53 -0700 To: From: Subject: Waiver Wire Part 3: 1958 - 1975 ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:54:52 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings From: Rick Subject: 52 topps sain/page Was looking at Mark talbot's wantlist and he had on there red back sain/page error variation. I was always told the error only comes in the black backnot red back is that true? If so that will knock off a couple cards on hiswantlist. Sent from my iPad ================= To: , Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:15:44 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post - Post/Jello I would like to 2nd this: "Also,. 61-63 post and jello ..if anyone has a little insight on those sets, price, history, etc" Just started these within the past year or so myself, kind of casually. Anyone have a list of the hard ones to find, the really hard ones to find, and the really really. anyway. You can kind of see some that from SCD Vintage Card guide, but I don't know how accurate it is. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wwesmyster2@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:36 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post Sorry so late. Strongsville, Ohio show was supreme! I met John McLaughlin, as he hands me a 64 and 53 hit. Jimi Thayer hands me a stack of 69s, with semi hi and high. Mike Rich shows my youngest boy, Nolan, the OBC hand shake, with numerous hits to include the 53 bowman Howie Foxx. Also met up with Mark Talbot and Ron Perry. Very sorry, dont remember what they gave me, got mixed in with all the pickups:( Obviously, also met up with Sam Taylor. Wonderful Tigers party at his house! Picked up a crease free 52 Topps there. What a wonderful time, loved being able to share moments with the group, and especially my boy. I loved how he just sat and listened to one of Mark's uncanny trading stories of years past. Nolan is now a card nut, thanks to the OBC guys we met up with, and JD I picked up a motherload of 63s and 53 bowmans. Also, a bunch of. I learned a bit from Mike and the guys, but if anyone has a little insight on those sets, price, history, etc. I'd be truly greatful. I just dont know quite as much about them as I do Topps and Bowman. All in all, the best time ever, minus the National of course. Great meeting Mike and Jimi's friends too. Thank you Sam, Mike, Jimi, Ron, John, Mark, and OBC! Sent from my LG phone ================= To: , "'Stamper'" Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 13:16:54 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post Oops - should read all the inbox before replying. should know this by now in my life. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wwesmyster2@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 12:35 AM To: Stamper Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post Cool, see it now thanks. And thanks Peter! Sent from my LG phone Stamper wrote: >Wes and all >Peter Mead did a great job providing info on the Post/Jello sets. It's in the OBC Library. >John Stamper >On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:36 PM, "wwesmyster2@aol.com" >> Sorry so late. Strongsville, Ohio show was supreme! I met John McLaughlin, as he hands me a 64 and 53 hit. Jimi Thayer hands me a stack of 69s, with semi hi and high. Mike Rich shows my youngest boy, Nolan, the OBC hand shake, with numerous hits to include the 53 bowman Howie Foxx. Also met up with Mark Talbot and Ron Perry. Very sorry, dont remember what they gave me, got mixed in with all the pickups:( >> Obviously, also met up with Sam Taylor. Wonderful Tigers party at his house! Picked up a crease free 52 Topps there. What a wonderful time, loved being able to share moments with the group, and especially my boy. I loved how he just sat and listened to one of Mark's uncanny trading stories of years past. Nolan is now a card nut, thanks to the OBC guys we met up with, and JD Heckathorn! >> I picked up a motherload of 63s and 53 bowmans. Also, a bunch of 61-63 post and jello. I learned a bit from Mike and the guys, but if anyone has a little insight on those sets, price, history, etc. I'd be truly greatful. I just dont know quite as much about them as I do Topps and Bowman. >> All in all, the best time ever, minus the National of course. Great meeting Mike and Jimi's friends too. >> Thank you Sam, Mike, Jimi, Ron, John, Mark, and OBC! >> Wes >> Sent from my LG phone ================= To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 17:24:52 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 topps sain/page ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 18:31:01 +0000 (UTC) To: cardclctor@aol.com From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 topps sain/page Well Thank you gentlemen, I get to take a couple off the want list and don't have to pay the postage - as my kid would say "Cool Beans"!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS --------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: cardclctor@aol.com To: "rick lyons22" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 1:24:52 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 topps sain/page As far as I know you are correct. Levi Bleam (of 707 Sportscards) told me that a long time ago and I'd consider him to be somewhat of an expert on 1952 Topps. Plus I've never seen or heard of one in the last 20 years or so that I would've been aware of one. Ken M Sent from my MetroPCS 4G Android device ------ Original message------ From: Rick Date: Tue, 4/1/2014 12:54 PM To: OBC-Ramblings; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 topps sain/page Was looking at Mark talbot's wantlist and he had on there red back sain/page error variation. I was always told the error only comes in the black backnot red back is that true? If so that will knock off a couple cards on hiswantlist. Sent from my iPad OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:02:16 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: cool beans While counting football cards the other day for George, I discovered my wantlist showed 200 cards for both 1962 and 1963 fleer sets. There are only 88cards in each set. So I scratched off 224 numbers! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] March OBCAC report I've got one, regarding the Membership Poll. It currently reads: "Any member who does not respond to the membership poll after 3 email notifications will be moved to inactive status, removed from the active OBC Directory and placed on a separate Non-active / Alumni Roster which will also be accessible from the main Directory page." If somebody didn't want to be a member anymore, they may not bother to answer. Then they would be moved to the Inactive list. Before long,we'll have a bunch of members who are not actually inactive, they are actually gone. But we wouldn't know. The Inactive List becomes a graveyard. I'm a believer in a good purge every now and again=E2=A6what's the worst that could happen? If you get taken off the Directory, you just have to say you want back in and you're in. Take Care, > From: "directorth@aol.com" >To: OBC-Announcements@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:32 PM >Subject: [OBC-Announcements] March OBCAC report >Hello all, >It was a relatively quiet month for your new OBCAC. Only two items required >1) Bob Donaldson was re-appointed OBC Treasurer. >2) Jimi Thayer was voted in as the newest member of OBC. >If you have any agenda items you would like the OBCAC to consider for the month of April, please e-mail any AC member directly, or post to Ramblings.Any proposals should be sent to an AC member (or posted to Ramblings) no later than the 10th of the month. >The OBCAC members are Andy Cook, Bob Donaldson, Peter Mead, Don Rice, JohnStamper, Talbot & Larry "Guru" Tipton. The non-voting alternate is Rich Niessen. The non-voting Facilitator is yours truly. ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:14:19 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Patrick Prickett Subject: Late to Ebay's change So, I just realized my want list page is now gone (thanks Ebay - as alwasy improving the customer experience there!). I know many folks have switched their pages lately - can anyone recommend agood (I'll get my page back up in the next couple days!) ================= To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 06:22:01 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: cool beans The 1963 set also has an unnumbered, tough to find, checklist. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 4:02 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: cool beans While counting football cards the other day for George, I discovered my wantlist showed 200 cards for both 1962 and 1963 fleer sets. There are only 88cards in each set. So I scratched off 224 numbers! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: obcbobd@gmail.com, ellisgl@interlynx.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 06:31:34 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? Any chance this is a "skinned" card that was glued back together with the wrong front? Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Bob Donaldson To: 'Gord Ellis' ; obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 30, 2014 7:17 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? That sounds cool. My #204 has Stephenson on the front From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gord Ellis Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:44 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoo groups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? Has anyone noticed '33 Goudey #200 and #204? The back of mine say Hallahan& Stephenson respectively but the fronts are the same picture and say Hallahan. Is there a #204 that has a Stephenson image? Strange. Gord No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7237 - Release Date: 03/23/14 Internal Virus Datab ase is out of date. ================= Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 05:34:12 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Me and Bobby I want to make it absolutely clear that I have no connection to this card whatsoever!!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-313-Bobby-Thomson-New-York-Giants-BB-High-Number-/261441368534?&_trksidp2056016.l4276 Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 09:44:29 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? Ha Ha!! You'll all find this funny. When Mike suggested that my 'wrong back' '33G card was a skinned card put back together, I took the card out of the hard guard to examine. Low and behold there was a 200 Hallahan on top ofthe 204 Stephenson card!! Mystery solved. So, I now have an extra 200 Hallahan to trade. How that happened, I'll never know. Gord ================= Date: 02 Apr 2014 07:29:56 -0700 To: From: Subject: A perfect eBay lot for the Guru Grading Service ================= Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 11:58:11 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Thomas Elliott Subject: RE: How many football cards? My first reaction when I saw this email was, "not as many as baseball." I then counted them up and that would be true, George. I believe I have 3,448 pre-1981 football cards. It's fun seeing the number, because I had no idea. ================= To: Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 17:50:27 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Anyone Need Hockey I've checked and hit most lists for Hockey under "Who Collects What". If you collect 70's Topps/OPC Hockey and are not identified under "Who Collects What" let me know and I will check your list ================= Date: 03 Apr 2014 08:05:41 -0700 To: From: Subject: Re: So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:27:02 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Cheap 71 opc Ryan http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-O-Pee-Chee-Card-513-Nolan-Ryan-BVG-Graded-1-5-Fair-Hall-of-Famer-/121311000466?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem1c3eb2f792 Only $10 BIN ================= Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 14:44:59 -0500 To: "" From: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post - Post/Jello I was just taking a look at Kevin Savage's auction for today. He has a 61 post Chuck Estrada. Bidding has already reached 105$. I'm not sure if that would be a deal, but wanted to get the word out with all the Post/Jello talkof Sent from my iPhone On Apr 1, 2014, at 12:15 PM, "Matt Yudt" wrote: > I would like to 2nd this: =E2=9CAlso,=E2=A6 61-63 post and jello =E2=A6.if anyone has a little insight on those sets, price, history, etc=E2=9D > Just started these within the past year or so myself, kind of casually. Anyone have a list of the hard ones to find, the really hard ones to find,and the really really=E2=A6 anyway. You can kind of see some that from SCD Vintage Card guide, but I don=E2=99t know how accurate it is=E2=A6 > Thanks, > Matt > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wwesmyster2@aol.com > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 9:36 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post > Sorry so late. Strongsville, Ohio show was supreme! I met John McLaughlin, as he hands me a 64 and 53 hit. Jimi Thayer hands me a stack of 69s, withsemi hi and high. Mike Rich shows my youngest boy, Nolan, the OBC hand shake, with numerous hits to include the 53 bowman Howie Foxx. Also met up with Mark Talbot and Ron Perry. Very sorry, dont remember what they gave me, got mixed in with all the pickups:( > Obviously, also met up with Sam Taylor. Wonderful Tigers party at his house! Picked up a crease free 52 Topps there. What a wonderful time, loved being able to share moments with the group, and especially my boy. I loved how he just sat and listened to one of Mark's uncanny trading stories of years past. Nolan is now a card nut, thanks to the OBC guys we met up with, andJD > I picked up a motherload of 63s and 53 bowmans. Also, a bunch of. I learned a bit from Mike and the guys, but if anyone has a little insight on those sets, price, history, etc. I'd be truly greatful. I just dont know quite as much about them as I do Topps and Bowman. > All in all, the best time ever, minus the National of course. Great meeting Mike and Jimi's friends too. > Thank you Sam, Mike, Jimi, Ron, John, Mark, and OBC! > Wes > Sent from my LG phone ================= To: Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 12:25:23 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Football card counting With 18 responses so far, the OBCers who collect football cards (not all of us) have between 1,000 and 15,000 cards each with an average of 6,000. It looks like there are about 20,000 vintage football single cards. Therefore the average OBCer has about 30% of what can be collected versus 17,000 baseball cards (15%) out of around 110,000 total vintage baseball cards. While the number of cards will be much lower for basketball, I'm guessing that the percentage collected of the total universe will be much higher than If you have any more numbers to report for baseball or football, I'll be glad to add them in and give you the results. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 20:27:59 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Patrick Prickett Subject: New website for my wantlist Not sure who I send this to ... but I have updated my wantlist website now that Ebay is defunct. Here's my site: https://sites.google.com/site/patrickswantlist/ Thanks to Jimi Thayer for pointing me in the right direction! ================= Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 17:40:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Rob Bessette Subject: Opening day ticket Anyone collect ticket stubs? I went to opening day for the Sox yesterday and was just going to throw it out but figured I'd offer it here first. ================= Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2014 18:05:27 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rob Bessette Subject: Re: Opening day ticket > On Apr 5, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Rob Bessette wrote: > Anyone collect ticket stubs? I went to opening day for the Sox yesterday and was just going to throw it out but figured I'd offer it here first. ================= To: Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2014 16:43:11 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: dealer scum alert - '52 topps high ebay #360880368814 A good friend of mine :) bid $50 + $6 shipping on this card and won it. Problem I, er, ah, "he" already has this card! So, If you want it for $40 (with free shipping!), I can just give the seller your address, and you can pay me, er,... my friend. Thanks, and sorry for the $$ talk. now back to actual trading. ebay item #360880368814 ================= Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:09:40 -0700 To: "OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com" , From: Stamper Subject: 1975-1977 Hostess Hi all- I just added the 75-77 Hostess Twinkie cards to my want list. I have a goodamount from the 75 and 77 sets with none from 76. I pulled the black bar cards from these sets and now I have some holes to fill in all these sets. Any help would be appreciated. Also if anyone knows about the 77 set in detail I would love to find out more about them. It appears to me that there are so many options for this set. I have some three panels in a row and three panels staggered from the Hostess set. Individual cards from both Hostess and Twinkies. Also full (uncut) (2 1/4 x 4 1/2 or 3 1/8 x 4 1/4) Twinkies and Cupcake individual cards. SCD lists the Cupcake (small panel) as 31-135. I have a bunch of large panels in this number range. Any insight would be much appreciated. John Stamper ================= Date: 07 Apr 2014 16:14:30 -0700 To: From: Subject: 1974 Topps Football ================= Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 23:37:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" From: Geordie Calvert Subject: The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look like back in...? So I found this website that caches billions of websites, one of which is an old wantlist of mine that dates back to March of 2007. I'm sure an earlier version exists, but I can't remember my old URLs prior to switching to Comcast. Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see how far my vintage baseball collection has progressed since then. Of the sets I was chasing, I finished three vintage Superbas/Dodgers sets (T206, T205 and '33 Goudey) and three regular sets (1971, 1973 and 1974). As a side note, I continue to shake my fist at Glenn for telling me my '74 set wasn't complete until I had the Washington variations. . Most of the rest of the sets have taken a pretty good beating, especially my '52 Topps Dodgers. When I joined OBC in late '96, I didn't dare dream about cards from the 60s, much less the '50s. I quickly learned that with this group you better dream big, so eventually I even decided to chase those pesky '52 high numbers. Anyway, the website is http://archive.org/web/ . I think it'd be fun to hear how far others have come in the last 7-odd years. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 23:54:13 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" From: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist Wow. I remembered/figured out what the URL was to my first ISP provider. I found a wantlist dated 1/29/99. What a trip! http://web.archive.org/web/19990222134450/http://www.cell2000.net/DodgerGeo/oldbaseball.htm The interwebs NEVER forget! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geordie Calvert" To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 4:37:46 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look like back in...? [1 Attachment] [ Attachment(s) from Geordie Calvert included below] So I found this website that caches billions of websites, one of which is an old wantlist of mine that dates back to March of 2007. I'm sure an earlier version exists, but I can't remember my old URLs prior to switching to Comcast. Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see how far my vintage baseballcollection has progressed since then. Of the sets I was chasing, I finished three vintage Superbas/Dodgers sets (T206, T205 and '33 Goudey) and threeregular sets (1971, 1973 and 1974). As a side note, I continue to shake myfist at Glenn for telling me my '74 set wasn't complete until I had the Washington variations. . Most of the rest of the sets have taken a pretty good beating, especially my '52 Topps Dodgers. When I joined OBC in late '96, I didn't dare dream about cards from the 60s, much less the '50s. I quickly learned that with thisgroup you better dream big, so eventually I even decided to chase those pesky '52 high numbers. Anyway, the website is http://archive.org/web/ . I think it'd be fun to hear how far others have come in the last 7-odd years. ================= Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 20:37:34 -0400 To: Geordie Calvert From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look Interesting question, thanks Geordie! The archive had a 2004 version of my wantlist with a bunch of (since-finished) sets from the 1950s to the 1970s, lots of hits remaining for 1933 Goudey, and an abortive attempt at WWI-era "card game" sets that I later abandoned after making no progress. (See the scan for that list.) Unfortunately, it's ALSO a reminder how looooooong I've been working on those cotton-picking Play Balls and 1949 Bowmans! Who knew it'd be such a long haul? *Grumble grumble* On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Geordie Calvert wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#1453e8e1e582ec3f_TopText> from Geordie Calvert included > below] > So I found this website that caches billions of websites, one of which is > an old wantlist of mine that dates back to March of 2007. I'm sure an > earlier version exists, but I can't remember my old URLs prior to switching > to Comcast. Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see how far my vintage > baseball collection has progressed since then. Of the sets I was chasing, > I finished three vintage Superbas/Dodgers sets (T206, T205 and '33 Goudey) > and three regular sets (1971, 1973 and 1974). As a side note, I continue > to shake my fist at Glenn for telling me my '74 set wasn't complete untilI > had the Washington variations. . > Most of the rest of the sets have taken a pretty good beating, especially > my '52 Topps Dodgers. When I joined OBC in late '96, I didn't dare dream > about cards from the 60s, much less the '50s. I quickly learned that with > this group you better dream big, so eventually I even decided to chase > those pesky '52 high numbers. > Anyway, the website is http://archive.org/web/ . I think it'd be fun to > hear how far others have come in the last 7-odd years. > Cheers! > Geordie ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:04:52 -0700 (PDT) To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look like back in...? [1 Attachment] Let it go, man......let it go. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Geordie Calvert To: Ramblings (OBC) Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:37 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look like back in...? [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Geordie Calvert included below] So I found this website that caches billions of websites, one of which is an old wantlist of mine that dates back to March of 2007. I'm sure an earlier version exists, but I can't remember my old URLs prior to switchingto Comcast. Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see how far my vintage baseball collection has progressed since then. Of the sets I was chasing, I finished three vintage Superbas/Dodgers sets (T206, T205 and '33Goudey) and three regular sets (1971, 1973 and 1974). As a side note, I continue to shake my fist at Glenn for telling me my '74 set wasn't complete until I had the Washington variations. . Most of the rest of the sets have taken a pretty good beating, especially my '52 Topps Dodgers. When I joined OBC in late '96, I didn't dare dream about cards from the 60s, much less the '50s. I quickly learned that with this group you better dream big, so eventually I even decided to chase those pesky '52 high numbers. Anyway, the website ishttp://archive.org/web/. I think it'd be fun to hear how far others have come in the last 7-odd years. ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 01:57:41 -0700 (PDT) To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look like back in...? [1 Attachment] I always archived my wantlists, and occasionally delve back into them for fun. Haven't done it in a while though until Geordie started this thread. I came across what i think is the first wantlist that I ever sent to OBC, dated August 1997. All the email headers are in the file too. It went out to98 OBC members. So what was on the list? It was mainly Tigers from 1957 onwards (not sure why I chose that year as a cutoff), a single vintage set - 1973T of which I still needed 221 cards - and an appeal to start me off on the1967 to 1969 sets. On closer inspection, I've picked up every specified card on this By November, the list had expand to include 1968Tto 1972T, and the 1967 Topps Pin Ups set. 1967T was yet to kick off. Really interesting to look back at this now and then! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Matthew Glidden To: Geordie Calvert Cc: Ramblings (OBC) Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Wayback Machine - what did your wantlist look like back in...? [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Matthew Glidden included below] Interesting question, thanks Geordie! The archive had a 2004 version of my wantlist with a bunch of (since-finished) sets from the 1950s to the 1970s,lots of hits remaining for 1933 Goudey, and an abortive attempt at WWI-era"card game" sets that I later abandoned after making no progress. (See thescan for that list.) Unfortunately, it's ALSO a reminder how looooooong I've been working on those cotton-picking Play Balls and 1949 Bowmans! Who knew it'd be such a longhaul? *Grumble grumble* On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Geordie Calvert wrote: >[Attachment(s) from Geordie Calvert included below] >So I found this website that caches billions of websites, one of which is an old wantlist of mine that dates back to March of 2007. I'm sure anearlier version exists, but I can't remember my old URLs prior to switching to Comcast. Anyway, I thought it would be fun to see how far my vintage baseball collection has progressed since then. Of the sets I waschasing, I finished three vintage Superbas/Dodgers sets (T206, T205 and '33 Goudey) and three regular sets (1971, 1973 and 1974). As a side note, I continue to shake my fist at Glenn for telling me my '74 set wasn't complete until I had the Washington variations. . >Most of the rest of the sets have taken a pretty good beating, especially my '52 Topps Dodgers. When I joined OBC in late '96, I didn't dare dream about cards from the 60s, much less the '50s. I quickly learned that with this group you better dream big, so eventually I even decided to chase those pesky '52 high numbers. >Anyway, the website ishttp://archive.org/web/. I think it'd be fun to hear how far others have come in the last 7-odd years. ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 03:26:35 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: NCAA brackets Fellas -- I seem to have misplaced my team assignments=E2=A6who had UConn? Last one I need to send out! Take Care, ================= To: tvalacak@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 06:56:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Housley Subject: Re: 1974 Topps Football Yep, you have a Parker Brothers card in there. The All-Pro is the Topps version. Some of the PB are almost impossible to tell from their Topps brethren; without looking at them, the PB version says "1972 stats" on the back & the Topps says "1973 stats". Then there are the easy ones; I think there's at least two other All-Pro/non All-Pro, and a couple of the QB cards are vertical in the PB version & horizontal in the Topps version. Here's a link to an article which breaks it down: http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2010/04/26/1974_parker_brothers_football_cards/ ================= To: Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:12:15 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: 1974 Topps Football The 50 Parker Brothers cards give you the opportunity to collect another 56 cards. There are 48 cards in the game set with '72 stats plus 2 rookies Foreman and Pruitt with no stats. There were 6 cards (23, 49, 116, 124, 126, and 127) that were redone for the game plus a third version of each was put in gum packs, all per Dick Gilkeson's 1989 book which has stood the test of time for accuracy. ================= To: Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:52:21 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? (you knew I had to keep going) I'm continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here's what I think constitutes vintage basketball. See Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just to cards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I think the maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988 for football (18 responses.) You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I'll let you know the George Vrechek topps inserts The rest of vintage cards vintage basketball ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 06:59:08 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? This is the easiest one yet. Zero. Nada. Not a sausage. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:52 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? (you knew I had to keep going) I=E2=99m continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here=E2=99s what I think constitutes vintage basketball. See below. Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just tocards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I thinkthe maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988 for football (18 responses.) You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I=E2=99ll let you know the results. George Vrechek Bowman 1948 Fleer 1961-2 Topps 1957-8 Topps 1969-0 Topps 1970-1 Topps 1971-2 Topps 1972-3 Topps 1973-4 Topps 1974-5 Topps 1975-6 Topps 1976-7 Topps 1977-8 Topps 1978-9 Topps 1979-0 topps inserts Kahn's 109 The rest of vintage cards vintage basketball 3,143 ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:09:55 -0400 To: Glenn Codere From: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? I think I might have a Jabbar laying around somewhere. Call it 'one' for me Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > This is the easiest one yet. > Zero. Nada. Not a sausage. > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > From: George Vrechek > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:52 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you haveanyway? > (you knew I had to keep going) > I=E2=99m continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here=E2=99s what I think constitutes vintagebasketball. See below. > Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just to cards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I think the maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are > The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988for football (18 responses.) > You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I=E2=99ll let you know the results. > George Vrechek > Bowman > 1948 > 72 > Fleer > 1961-2 > 66 > Topps > 1957-8 > 80 > Topps > 1969-0 > 99 > Topps > 1970-1 > 175 > Topps > 1971-2 > 233 > Topps > 1972-3 > 264 > Topps > 1973-4 > 264 > Topps > 1974-5 > 264 > Topps > 1975-6 > 330 > Topps > 1976-7 > 144 > Topps > 1977-8 > 132 > Topps > 1978-9 > 132 > Topps > 1979-0 > 132 > topps inserts > 192 > Globetrotters > 126 > Kahn's > 109 > Discs > 76 > The rest of vintage cards > 253 > vintage basketball > 3,143 ================= To: "Geno Wagner" , Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:02:28 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] NCAA brackets ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 17:18:30 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:29:14 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? I have a whopping 294 Basketball cards. Only doing three sets including theGlobetrotters. John Stamper On Apr 8, 2014, at 5:18 PM, "cardclctor@aol.com" wrote: > George, > According to those numbers, I have 2150. (Subtracted the three oldest sets, plus the five numbers at the bottom.) Works out to a whopping 68% of the available cards, but with no plans to ever improve that number. > Ken M > Sent from my MetroPCS 4G Android device > ------ Original message------ > From: George Vrechek > Date: Tue, 4/8/2014 9:52 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? > (you knew I had to keep going) > I=E2=99m continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here=E2=99s what I think constitutes vintagebasketball. See below. > Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just to cards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I think the maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are > The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988for football (18 responses.) > You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I=E2=99ll let you know the results. > &nb sp; > George Vrechek > Bowman > 1 948 > 72 > Fleer > 1961-2 > 66 > Topps > 1957-8 > 80 > Topps > 1969-0 > &nb sp; 99 > Topps > 1970-1 > 175 > Topps > 1971-2 > 233 > Topps > 1972-3 > 264 > Topps > 1973-4 > 26 4 > Topps > 1974-5 > 264 > Topps > 1975-6 > 330 > Topps > 1976-7 > 144 > Topps > 1977-8 > 132 > Topps > 1978-9 > 132 > Topps > 1979-0 > 132 > topps inserts > 192 > Globetrotters > 126 > Kahn's > 109 > Discs > 76 > The rest of vintage cards > 253 ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:39:35 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 14:47:55 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Vintage Basketball "starter sets" available I have been trying to give these away since last summers National Convention. If nobody claims them I am giving them away on Net54! 1974-75 Topps basketball 37 different 1975-76 Topps basketball 19 different ================= Date: 08 Apr 2014 12:25:26 -0700 To: From: Subject: Re: So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? ================= To: "obc" Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:47:12 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? I have 2,290 basketball cards............. Ken Goetsch (you knew I had to keep going) I'm continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here's what I think constitutes vintage basketball. Seebelow. Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just to cards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I think the maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988for football (18 responses.) You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I'll let you know theresults. George Vrechek topps inserts The rest of vintage cards vintage basketball ================= To: "obc" , Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 16:50:07 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? forgot the inserts. 2367 Basketball. Ken Goetsch I have 2,290 basketball cards............. Ken Goetsch (you knew I had to keep going) I'm continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here's what I think constitutes vintage basketball. See Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just to cards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I think the maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are more. The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988 for football (18 responses.) You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I'll let you know the George Vrechek topps inserts The rest of vintage cards vintage basketball ================= Date: 08 Apr 2014 19:19:29 -0700 To: From: Subject: Non-sports advice requested ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:25:48 -0400 To: "" , From: Jimi Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports advice requested I know virtually NOTHING about non-sports issues, but I have been warming up to the thought as well, so I'm open to listening as well to your thoughts. I tracked a near complete '64T Beatles set just last week and was very cheap, I thought, but then I again I don't know much. I've been working on the'52T Look 'N' See for a couple years and it seems doable and I like cards with famous historical figures. Just my two cents. Love to hear from other people as well in regards to the same questions Tom had. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 8, 2014, at 10:19 PM, wrote: > Guys, > With the National coming up soon, I've been warming up to the idea of starting a non-sports set or three. > The sets that I've been thinking of are the 1964 Beatles sets, and the Batman set from 1966(?). > I was tempted to pick up some 50's singles last year at Chandy's table. Ithink they were the '55 World On wheels cards, but I passed since I was running low on $$. > So, I'm looking for advice. I don't want to start too many sets, so...what cards are relatively easy to find/complete? (and by extension, are any sets/cards relatively inexpensive, especially in OBC condition?) > What are your favorites? > Are there any other sets out there that I should consider? > Joe Denning was nice enough to get me started with type cards on the black & white '64 Beatles set, and a Beatles Hard Days Night set. > Having grown up watching the Batman TV series, I'm thinking the Batman set should be in play. > Thanks for any input! > Tom ================= To: Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 23:08:36 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Re: Non-sports advice requested I thought that I'd comment on the non-sports card topic. I collected non-sports cards heavily during the '80's and '90's. In the '50's, Wings is probably one of the easier ones as there lots of them around and no short prints. There are also lots of World on Wheels but numbers 141-160 are tougher and 161 to 180 are VERY tough. There areeven Blue & Red backs of #'s 171-180. TV Westerns are plentiful but thereare short prints. The 2 with significant historical impact are Scoops & Look 'n See. The last half of the #'s in Scoops are tougher. I remember that I 1st learnned of the Titanic incident by reading this card back in the '50's. The Boxing, Baseball, Golf and Football cards carry significant premiums. Look 'n See has 8-10 short prints and a tough Babe Ruth card. Prices are also higherfor Aerhart, Lindbergh and a few others. Most of the 88 cards sets from the 50's have half of the cards double printed because of the 132 sheet. Beatles & Batman cards are very plentiful and completimg the sets should be very easy. Pre-war cards are tough to find in reasonable condition but I know mostmembers don't care. A large % of my non-sports cards are Canadian only and I have many leftfrom the Topps '60'sand '70's sets that are the Canadian version like Batman, Man from Uncle, Man on the Moon, Beatles, Partridge Family, Charlie's Angels and others If anyone has any questions, I'd be glad to give my input. Gord ================= To: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 07:26:16 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: Non-sports advice requested I've only collected a few non-sport sets but I thought the Topps Flags and Presidents sets from the 50s were affordable, findable, and interesting. I also did Star Wars. There are affordable exhibit cards of movie stars also as long as you don't want to get them all. There is a book on non-sport tobacco cards called "American Tobacco Cards, price guide and checklist" that might give you other ideas for type cards. In any event, the book is George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:50:28 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: non sports sets Tom and Jimi The 1966 Batman sets are fun and affordable there are several sets might aswell go for them all! 1966 Batman black bats on front w orange backs 55 cards 1966 Series A numbered 1A 2A etc red bats on front puzzle backs 44A cards 1966 Series B blue bats on the front numbered 1B 2B etc puzzle backs 44B cards 1966 Series B blue bats on the front numbered 1B 2B etc large blue bat on the back 44B cards 1966 Batman Riddler color photos on front riddler back 38 cards 1966 Batman BatLaffs color photos numbered on front puzzle or Bat Laffs on back 55 cards The Beatles cards are fun and affordable as well! 1964 Beatles B&W B&W photos on front with an autograph 165 cards in the setreleased in three series the backs plain except for the numbering 1-60 blue numbering system 61-115 orange numbering system 116-165 green numbering system. 1964 Beatles Color color photos orange backs 64 cards 1964 Beatles Diary color photo front Beatles Diary back 60 cards. 1964 Beatles Movie A Hard Days Night sepia tone photo front camera design on the back marked Beatles Movie 55 cards. What you didn't like the Monkees? They have cards too! I think my favorite non sports set of all time has to be 1962 Topps Civil War News, I remember these cards well as a kid. Back in the 90s Stan Hack sent me an unopened cello pack and I pulled a mint checklist and finished my set. I am working on a second set too. It's easy to get out of control with non sports sets (but in a good way) but really fun too! ================= To: , Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:48:33 +0000 From: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: non sports sets The batman Ridller with 38 cards in the set is the hardest to acquire. Backin the day the Bluebat was the harder of the three. Not as much but slightly From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Tipton Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:50 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: non sports sets Tom and Jimi The 1966 Batman sets are fun and affordable there are several sets might aswell go for them all! 1966 Batman black bats on front w orange backs 55 cards 1966 Series A numbered 1A 2A etc red bats on front puzzle backs 44A cards 1966 Series B blue bats on the front numbered 1B 2B etc puzzle backs 44B cards 1966 Series B blue bats on the front numbered 1B 2B etc large blue bat on the back 44B cards 1966 Batman Riddler color photos on front riddler back 38 cards 1966 Batman BatLaffs color photos numbered on front puzzle or Bat Laffs on back 55 cards The Beatles cards are fun and affordable as well! 1964 Beatles B&W B&W photos on front with an autograph 165 cards in the setreleased in three series the backs plain except for the numbering 1-60 blue numbering system 61-115 orange numbering system 116-165 green numbering system. 1964 Beatles Color color photos orange backs 64 cards 1964 Beatles Diary color photo front Beatles Diary back 60 cards. 1964 Beatles Movie A Hard Days Night sepia tone photo front camera design on the back marked Beatles Movie 55 cards. What you didn't like the Monkees? They have cards too! I think my favorite non sports set of all time has to be 1962 Topps Civil War News, I remember these cards well as a kid. Back in the 90s Stan Hack sent me an unopened cello pack and I pulled a mint checklist and finished my set. I am working on a second set too. It's easy to get out of control with non sports sets (but in a good way) but really fun too! The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= To: "directorth@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 09:51:02 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports advice requested This one's fairly easy, especially if you are talking OBC condition. Collect what you like! :) Almost anything from the '50s on up is cheap in OBC condition. Even expensive cards like the '67 Wacky Packages die-cuts can be found for $1 apiece (except for a couple of the rare ones), if they are punched out. For '50s and'60s, the sets previously mentioned are all fairly cheap and plentiful, though it can be hard finding those last few SPECIFIC numbers you need to complete the set. :) Keep in mind that for any modern size cards, any set that is evenly divisible into 132 will probably be the easiest to complete, since there probably will NOT be any SPs (or DPs, TPs). I think there are some numbers from the Batman (orange backs) and Man From Uncle (both 55 card sets), for example, that were printed in different quantities based on trying to complete them myself, but I can't say with 100% certainty. It seems like certain numbers kept appearing (or not appearing) in lots that you would find on ebay (or at Or you might look at older sets as well. Some of the '30s cards (Horrors ofWar, G-Men, Indian Gum, etc) can be found for $1-$2 a card for many of them (except rare or high-demand cards) and are REALLY neat cards. Similarly for a number of tobacco issues (Animals, Flags of All Nations, Lighthouses) can be found for a buck or two. A couple of useful sites that might help: http://www1.coe.neu.edu/~dan/z-ns-start/showtime2.html - the card galleriesgo up to the '60s, but this can be a scary site as there are a TON of coollooking cards out there (so you might get hooked). http://nslists.com/jaall.htm - an indispensable link for non-sport checklists that includes most UV sets along with older sets as well (including tonsof UK and tobacco / tea sets). Good luck, and welcome to the Dark Side! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 19:19:29 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Non-sports advice requested With the National coming up soon, I've been warming up to the idea of starting a non-sports set or three. The sets that I've been thinking of are the 1964 Beatles sets, and the Batman set from 1966(?). I was tempted to pick up some 50's singles last year at Chandy's table. I think they were the '55 World On wheels cards, but I passed since I was running low on $$. So, I'm looking for advice. I don't want to start too many sets, so...what cards are relatively easy to find/complete? (and by extension, are any sets/cards relatively inexpensive, especially in OBC condition?) What are your favorites? Are there any other sets out there that I should consider? Joe Denning was nice enough to get me started with type cards on the black & white '64 Beatles set, and a Beatles Hard Days Night set. Having grown up watching the Batman TV series, I'm thinking the Batman set should be in play. Thanks for any input! ================= To: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:53:13 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: American Caramel E121s (yes, I'm crazy) The set I have been concentrating on lately is the American Caramels E121, either series of 80 or 120, I=92m just collecting based on the fronts. I=92ve picked up about =BD the known subjects in typical OBC condition. I=92ve also handful of dups and other pre war to trade if by some reason you have some you don=92t know what to do with. If you have any you=92d like to trade or are working on this set, let me know and perhaps we can work something out. ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 16:09:04 -0400 (EDT) From: typecard@aol.com Subject: password security Hi, I've heard there's some new super computer virus -- do we need to change all our passwords? ================= Date: 09 Apr 2014 14:30:59 -0700 To: From: Subject: NCAA brackets I owe...and lost more than a toe ================= To: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 17:52:53 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: choo choo I know a lot of people are looking for a 1966 Choo Choo Coleman. This guys has two to trade! ================= To: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 18:02:20 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: choo choo Sorry, forgot the link. I don't have any, but the person at this link does http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1264225#post1264225 From: Bob Donaldson [mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 5:53 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: choo choo I know a lot of people are looking for a 1966 Choo Choo Coleman. This guys has two to trade! ================= Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 19:57:02 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] re: non sports sets Hey guys, does anyone have info on the 1963 Topps Astronaut set? I'm also thinking about some non sports sets and love these. ---- anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com wrote: > The batman Ridller with 38 cards in the set is the hardest to acquire. Back in the day the Bluebat was the harder of the three. Not as much but slightly > Anthony > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Tipton > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:50 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] re: non sports sets > Tom and Jimi > The 1966 Batman sets are fun and affordable there are several sets might as well go for them all! > 1966 Batman black bats on front w orange backs 55 cards > 1966 Series A numbered 1A 2A etc red bats on front puzzle backs 44A cards > 1966 Series B blue bats on the front numbered 1B 2B etc puzzle backs 44B cards > 1966 Series B blue bats on the front numbered 1B 2B etc large blue bat on the back 44B cards > 1966 Batman Riddler color photos on front riddler back 38 cards > 1966 Batman BatLaffs color photos numbered on front puzzle or Bat Laffs on back 55 cards > The Beatles cards are fun and affordable as well! > 1964 Beatles B&W B&W photos on front with an autograph 165 cards in the set released in three series the backs plain except for the numbering 1-60 blue numbering system 61-115 orange numbering system 116-165 green numbering system. > 1964 Beatles Color color photos orange backs 64 cards > 1964 Beatles Diary color photo front Beatles Diary back 60 cards. > 1964 Beatles Movie A Hard Days Night sepia tone photo front camera design on the back marked Beatles Movie 55 cards. > What you didn't like the Monkees? They have cards too! > I think my favorite non sports set of all time has to be 1962 Topps Civil War News, I remember these cards well as a kid. Back in the 90s Stan Hack sent me an unopened cello pack and I pulled a mint checklist and finished my set. I am working on a second set too. > It's easy to get out of control with non sports sets (but in a good way) but really fun too! > Guru > ________________________________ > The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 20:43:28 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: 1961 Topps Waiver Wire Picked up a few extra 61s and thought I would pass them on. No high numbers, sorry. Please send name and address. Ken P. 64 71 73 85 102 107 111 128 152 157 161 182 201 203 216 208 223 234 240 256 267 272 331 332 338 ================= To: Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 21:01:42 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Vintage Basketball numbers so far Not all of us collect basketball and a few guys have reported just a handful of cards. I counted just those working on some degree of set collecting. The range in cards is from 334 to 2,367 from 11 collectors. The average is 1,514. If you look at just the 4 guys with the most cards, they all have around 2,300 cards. I think the total vintage basketball population is 3,200 cards. Therefore, if you stick with it, it looks like you can collect at least 70% of the vintage basketball universe. However the pre-1969 oddball cards, that people generally skip, are quite expensive. George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 06:29:44 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: '63 Astronauts Ken: Copied from cardboard connection dot com: 1963 Topps Astronauts is a historical look at the beginning of the space travel in the United States. Long a topic of fantasy, the 1960s saw it becomea reality. While the set focuses most prominently on the historical background of the space program, it also blends in elements of fantasy through illustrations used on the 3-D card backs. The 55-card set looks at the Project Mercury program, which was the American side of the space race with the USSR. Running from 1959 to 1963, it saw the first Americans reach outer space and orbit the earth. Cards go relatively in depth, at least as far as a small set of trading cards can, into the key astronauts in the program, their training and the gear they used. In particular, Alan Shepard, John Glenn and Virgil Grissom figure prominently inthe set. Scott Carpenter, Gordon Cooper, Walter Schirra and Donald Slaytonare other astronauts to appear on the checklist. President John F. Kennedyis also on a card. 1963 Topps Astronauts card fronts are dominated by a photo. Most showing training exercises, although machines and astronaut portraits are also included in the artwork. The bottom of the card has a yellow box that holds a redheadline caption and a short description. The corner of the box has a moonicon with the card number inside. Card backs are very different. They have a 3-D illustration. They aren't focused so much on Project Mercury. Instead, they imagine some of the feats humans might be able to accomplish through space travel. It's a sci-fi turn for a set that is otherwise based in reality. A pair of 3-D glasses comes in every 1963 Topps Astronauts wax pack. 1963 Topps Astronauts Popsicle Backs are a rare variation on the set. Instead of a 3-D image, the cards have a blue back with several space-themed illustrations like stars, planets and a rocket. The middle of the card includes an ad for Popsicles from the Joe Lowe Corporation. Popsicle Backs are more difficult to find than the 3-D backs and command a premium on the secondary ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:26:21 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Anyone here live near Kingston NY? Check out the photo gallery in this auction. http://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/2042336.html If anyone decides to go, let me know. ================= Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Bob Saxton Subject: LinkedIn Occasionally I get a request from an OBCer to add them to my LinkedIn contacts. I'm no longer on LinkedIn, so if you don't get a response it's certainly nothing personal. Bob Saxton ================= Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:10:57 -0700 (PDT) To: Bob Saxton , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] LinkedIn I signed up about a year ago, got about 100 emails and quit about 10 minutes later. I guess I'm anti-social. On a related note, I'm heading to a new career this summer, as I'm finally leaving Air Force flying. I did 20 years active, and 3 years as a contractor pilot. I was recently hired by Delta Air Lines, so I may be coming to an airport hotel near you soon! Should start in July or August=E2=A6training in Atlanta, or maybe Miami. Take Care, > From: Bob Saxton >To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" >Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:05 PM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] LinkedIn >Occasionally I get a request from an OBCer to add them to my LinkedIn contacts. I'm no longer on LinkedIn, so if you don't get a response it's certainly nothing personal. >Bob Saxton ================= To: , Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:02:51 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] password security Yes, at least some of them. There is a recently discovered vulnerability in OpenSSL. You can go here for more details http://heartbleed.com/ Some passwords should be changed. Here is an article explaining which ones and why https://www.yahoo.com/tech/the-heartbleed-aftermath-drags-on-what-passwords- Good luck From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of typecard@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 4:09 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] password security Hi, I've heard there's some new super computer virus -- do we need to change all our passwords? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7263 - Release Date: 03/28/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ================= Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:58:27 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Fwd: [$1 Off Coupon] 60th Philly Non-Sports Card Show - May 3 & 4 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Non-Sport Update Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 10:14 AM Subject: [$1 Off Coupon] 60th Philly Non-Sports Card Show - May 3 & 4 To: Steve Rittenberg Don't miss the Philly Non-Sports Card Show on May 3 & 4 at the Merchants Square Mall in Allentown, PA View this email in your browser *Steve Rittenberg* *JUST 3 WEEKS AWAY!* The Philly Non-Sports Card Show is coming up on May 3 & 4 at the Merchants Square Mall, 1901 S. 12th Street, Allentown, PA 18103. *Promos* We've been adding cards to our promo page the cool Marvel Masterpieces promo card just announced yesterday. We'll be adding many more promo cards leading up to the show. *Hotels* Our block of hotel rooms at the host hotel, the Hilton Garden Inn, has sold out. There are still rooms available at the Staybridge Suites, which is adjacent to the Hillton Garden Inn and is a beautiful facility. There are also rooms available at the Holiday Inn Allentown Center City. Complete details about hotels can be found on our Travel & Hotel Info page *Exclusive Jay Lynch Metal Card* A brand new metal card produced by *NSU* with art by Jay Lynch will be available for sale at the Philly Non-Sports Card Show for the very first time. Come to the Philly Show and get your card signed by Jay at the show. See the promo pagefor more details. *Faerie Metal Photography* Speaking of metal cards, first time Philly Show exhibitor Faerie Metal Photography will be showing of their line of metal cards at the show. You won't want to miss it. *Manufacturers* Come to Allentown and see: 258 West Authentic Signatures, Breygent Marketing, Cryptozoic Entertainment, Faerie Metal Photography, Non-Sport Update, Rittenhouse Archives, SideKick, and Wax Eye. *Artists* Don't miss our outstanding artists line-up: Carolyn Edwards, Jay Lynch, Rhiannon Owens, Sean Pence, Elaine Perna, Tony Perna, and George Vega. Come to Allentown to meet the artists and see their beautiful artwork. *Dealers* Buy from the hobby's leading trading card dealers. *More Online* Visit the Philly Non-Sports Card Show website at phillynon-sportscardshow.com Facebook Twitter] Twitter Website] Website =A9 2014 Non-Sport Update, All rights reserved.* You are receiving this email because you have either previously attended the Philly Non-Sports Card Show or have opted in at our website, *Our mailing address is:* Non-Sport Update 4019 Green Street PO Box 5858 Harrisburg, PA 17110 Add us to your address book unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences [image: Email Marketing Powered by MailChimp] To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 8, 2014 9:52 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage BASKETBALL cards do you have anyway? (you knew I had to keep going) I=E2=99m continuing the informal poll of OBCers as to how many pre-1981 vintage single cards you have. This time the subject is basketball and the counting is a lot easier. Here=E2=99s what I think constitutes vintage basketball. See below. Let me know how many SINGLES you have ignoring variations, sticking just tocards, and not including the 1980-1981 set or anything thereafter. I thinkthe maximum you can have is 3,143, but am interested if you think there are The average OBC numbers for baseball are 16,792 (32 responses.) and 5,988 for football (18 responses.) You can let me know by email to me or Ramblings and I=E2=99ll let you know the results. &nb sp; George Vrechek ; 233 &nb sp; 264 & nbsp; 132 topps inserts The rest of vintage cards vintage basketball ================= To: Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:31:23 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Philly Thanks Ron Perry sends a 5 1966 Philly Football including Mel Renfro, Chuck Howley and a Johnny Unitas with just a little bit of paper loss Thanks Ron! Thanks OBC!! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:31:36 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: A few 1963 Jello cards available For those who are distinguishing Post from Jello cards, I have the following 1963 Jello - 4, 75, 81, 154(x2), 160 WTF? I have SIX cards and TWO of them are #154??? LOL http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 17:40:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Available Starter Set 1965 Donruss "SPEC SHEET" (hot rods rails custom cars dragsters) 14 different included and the set is complete at 66 cards. Cards are not rare, they are cheap and fun to collect. ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 01:16:18 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Family Addition ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, marcpeter@juno.com Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 01:18:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: baseball card song Just an FYI... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v63-ToDgwVUQ It is from a complete album of baseball folk music...fun! ================= To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" , Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:06:07 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Family Addition A 7-course meal of food for thought... If storage space is your primary concern, then 2-row (or 3-row) storage boxes give you the most bang for the buck. Two 3-inch binders are about the same width as a 2-row shoe box, but the shoe boxes are a few inches "deeper". You can stack two, 2-row shoe boxes andthey won't be as high as a binder. So if you ignore the extra depth, you can get about 1800 cards in 2 binders (200 pages), or more than 3200 cards in two 2-row shoe boxes. Keep in mind.... It depends on the depth of your shelf-space, but I found that the extra "length" in the shoe boxes isn't a problem if it sticks off the end of the shelf a couple of inches. But if your binders already stick off the end of the shelf, then it will be hit or miss on how much the shoe boxes stick out or be a problem. This should be easy for you to determine with just a couple of shoe boxes. (basically, depending on what you already have for "shelf space" might help determine what is best). A couple more ideas / examples on 2-rows, which I use for most my sports sets. A ) If you use penny sleeves on all the cards, then figure 1400 cards instead of 1600 card per box. B ) one 2-row will hold 350+ cards of JUST top loaded cards C ) my 1972 "dealer-fresh-from-1972" set has all cards in penny sleeves andabout 1 row's worth of top loaders. The set fits nicely into a single 2-row box, so a single set packaged this way isn't much different than a singleset in an album. D ) you have MUCH more versatility for storing / moving / stacking 2-row boxes than binders. E ) I love the top loaders for the "dearer" cards, which you can now safelyhandle. So from a pure storage space perspective, there's no contest. What about financially speaking? Let's assume you have access to a dealer that handles supplies (shows are generally cheaper than stores). Rough estimate is that 1 binder with 100 pages will be in the $15-$20 range. You can get cheap (used) binders, but decent (unused) pages will be about $12 or more per 100-count box. A 2-row box is $3 (or less), with 100 count penny sleeves at $1 per 100 (orless). So for the same set 800-card set, it will cost you $11 for shoe boxand (roughly) the same amount for just pages (without the binder). So it'sclose to a wash between cost differences. Obviously adding top loaders will be another $4-$5 per 100 cards. I can't speak much on the 3-row boxes, but they are usually longer than 2-rows, and the 2-rows were always easier to shuffle around (for me anyway). So all that being said, I would recommend shoe boxes, but again, YMMV regarding storage ability and current setup. One last thing I would HIGHLY recommend regardless of what method you choose. Since you are in Dayton, is it safe to assume you might be at the National? And that if you go, you will either be driving or riding with someone who will? If so, figure out what supplies you will need and get them there (in bulk). You will save a TON on shipping, either directly or through dealer overhead. I know BCW was there last year and I think Ultra-Pro as well, but you should be able to check the dealer directory / layout to confirm. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 01:16:18 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Family Addition Thought I'd share that my wife Jackie is expecting our 3rd! She is due in September. Unknown gender yet. I will be moving my office out of the office, and into a floor space of about 6x8 or so. Desk, book shelf, etc., and, cardboard. I'm having a hard time determing what would be the most efficient method ofstoring cards. I have always used shoe boxes, and super shoe boxes, as they accomodate top loaders for the higher value examples in the set. I am wondering if binders for every set or two would minimize the cubic volume of actual space to store the collections. As so many binders and sheetsmay prove costly, I'd prefer feedback before doing a trial and error effort. Sent from my LG phone ================= To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" , Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:10:42 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Family Addition Correction.... 2-row shoe box with penny sleeves is about 1200 cards per box, not 1400. Unless you want to use the extra space on top of the rows and lay them down. :) To: wwesmyster2@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:06:07 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Family Addition A 7-course meal of food for thought... If storage space is your primary concern, then 2-row (or 3-row) storage boxes give you the most bang for the buck. Two 3-inch binders are about the same width as a 2-row shoe box, but the shoe boxes are a few inches "deeper". You can stack two, 2-row shoe boxes andthey won't be as high as a binder. So if you ignore the extra depth, you can get about 1800 cards in 2 binders (200 pages), or more than 3200 cards in two 2-row shoe boxes. Keep in mind.... It depends on the depth of your shelf-space, but I found that the extra "length" in the shoe boxes isn't a problem if it sticks off the end of the shelf a couple of inches. But if your binders already stick off the end of the shelf, then it will be hit or miss on how much the shoe boxes stick out or be a problem. This should be easy for you to determine with just a couple of shoe boxes. (basically, depending on what you already have for "shelf space" might help determine what is best). A couple more ideas / examples on 2-rows, which I use for most my sports sets. A ) If you use penny sleeves on all the cards, then figure 1400 cards instead of 1600 card per box. B ) one 2-row will hold 350+ cards of JUST top loaded cards C ) my 1972 "dealer-fresh-from-1972" set has all cards in penny sleeves andabout 1 row's worth of top loaders. The set fits nicely into a single 2-row box, so a single set packaged this way isn't much different than a singleset in an album. D ) you have MUCH more versatility for storing / moving / stacking 2-row boxes than binders. E ) I love the top loaders for the "dearer" cards, which you can now safelyhandle. So from a pure storage space perspective, there's no contest. What about financially speaking? Let's assume you have access to a dealer that handles supplies (shows are generally cheaper than stores). Rough estimate is that 1 binder with 100 pages will be in the $15-$20 range. You can get cheap (used) binders, but decent (unused) pages will be about $12 or more per 100-count box. A 2-row box is $3 (or less), with 100 count penny sleeves at $1 per 100 (orless). So for the same set 800-card set, it will cost you $11 for shoe boxand (roughly) the same amount for just pages (without the binder). So it'sclose to a wash between cost differences. Obviously adding top loaders will be another $4-$5 per 100 cards. I can't speak much on the 3-row boxes, but they are usually longer than 2-rows, and the 2-rows were always easier to shuffle around (for me anyway). So all that being said, I would recommend shoe boxes, but again, YMMV regarding storage ability and current setup. One last thing I would HIGHLY recommend regardless of what method you choose. Since you are in Dayton, is it safe to assume you might be at the National? And that if you go, you will either be driving or riding with someone who will? If so, figure out what supplies you will need and get them there (in bulk). You will save a TON on shipping, either directly or through dealer overhead. I know BCW was there last year and I think Ultra-Pro as well, but you should be able to check the dealer directory / layout to confirm. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 01:16:18 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Family Addition Thought I'd share that my wife Jackie is expecting our 3rd! She is due in September. Unknown gender yet. I will be moving my office out of the office, and into a floor space of about 6x8 or so. Desk, book shelf, etc., and, cardboard. I'm having a hard time determing what would be the most efficient method ofstoring cards. I have always used shoe boxes, and super shoe boxes, as they accomodate top loaders for the higher value examples in the set. I am wondering if binders for every set or two would minimize the cubic volume of actual space to store the collections. As so many binders and sheetsmay prove costly, I'd prefer feedback before doing a trial and error effort. Sent from my LG phone ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:53:23 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Spring Cleaning "OBC Style" Available for the asking: 1. Starter set of six 1953 Topps "Fighting Marines". There are 96 cards in the set and believe it or not these are not in to bad of shape. These are little cards like 1949 Bowman baseball. 2. Starter set 14 diff 1954 Bowman football cards there are 128 in the set.Nice big cards and the set is not that difficult George Blanda RC is the most expensive card in the set. 3. 1957 Topps "Goofy Postcards" 4 different out of 60 in the set. Classic ten year old humor perfect for this group:) 4. 1962 Leaf "Mr Foneys Funnies" also known as "Foney Adds" 72 cards in theset here are three different to get you started. Like "wacky Packages" released in the 70s included is #44 "Kill-logs Chips N Flakes" you get the idea:) 5. 1962 Topps "Ben Casey and Dr Kildare" from the TV show 110 cards in the set here are seven different to get you started. Why I have these in my dupes box they are my sisters cards yea thats it! 6. 1964 Donruss "Addams Family" two cards there are 66 in the set. Neither of the two cards picture Morticia or "Tish" as I liked to call her:) 7. 1973 Topps "You'll Die Laughing" 128 cards in the set here are 12 different. B&W monster pics on the front, purple backs with a joke. 8. 197(?) Wacky Packages I know nothing about these two checklist cards included (4th and 6th series). 18 stickers included the outline portion of thestickers have been removed. Dude you can stick them on the refrigerator atwork or something and your boss will get all mad at you! 2 1979 Fleer "Crazy Labels" included just for fun. 9. 1976 Donruss "Bionic Woman" Lindsay Wagner BITD (back in the day) she was super hot here are 4 different out of the 44 card set. 10. 1979 Topps "Welcome Back Kotter" ever wonder what Sals teenage years were like? 53 cards in the set here are 11 different. 11. 1977 Star Wars second series (red cards) 29 different. 12. 1978 "Mork and Mindy" 99 card set here are 21 different, Na-No Na-No ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 18:19:07 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? My front says Stephenson also. Richard D To: ellisgl@interlynx.net; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:17:28 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? That sounds cool. My #204 has Stephenson on the front Bob From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gord Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:44 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? Has anyone noticed '33 Goudey #200 and #204? The back of mine say Hallahan & Stephenson respectively but the fronts are the same picture and say Hallahan. Is there a #204 that has a Stephenson image? Strange. GordNo virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7237 - Release Date: 03/23/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 09:46:08 -0500 To: From: David Skoglund Subject: Re: baseball card song The Baseball Project is one of my favorite bands. I'm sure all three of their albums would be enjoyed by everyone in OBC. Highly recommended. They've got another baseball card related song. It isn't on an album. If you buy the CD of '3rd' you get a download code for an MP3 version of the album which includes some bonus tracks. One of the bonus tracks is a song about Jefferson Burdick and the collection he donated to the Met. You can also listen to that song from here: https://soundcloud.com/the-baseball-project/i-shant-be-back ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:53:35 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Wax Subject: Waiver Wire offerings Ive been too busy to check many want lists the last week, but wanted to return some cards to the group. So here's a few freebies if anybody wants to claim them, lower grade condition on most. Please include your address: 1962 Post: #96 Leo Posada, #79 Ken Hunt 1968 topps Dodgers team card #168 1955 Bowman football #49 Kline Gilbert 1954 topps #49 Ray Murray 1955 topps #62 Kipper 1951 Bowman #155 Brissie, #192 Wyse 1969 topps football : 3, 4, 10, 11, 30, 50, 57, 64, 79, 80, 80, 80, 90, 101, 105, 130, 132, 132, 187, 230, 237, 261 1966 Philadelphia football: 30, 33. 66, 182 1978 topps baseball lot of about 300+ starter set Brandon Wax ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:29:59 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: David Fallen Subject: Completed Set and Subset This week I completed my 1951 Topps Red Back set with the addition of Yogi and Zernial (Chicago). I received help along the way from other OBC'ers and wish to thank all for making this happen. I also completed the Seattle subset of the 1910 Obak set. Always good to knock off another goal! Dave Fallen ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 19:49:25 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings From: Jake Elwell Subject: KC A's stadium postcard I have a KC A's stadium postcard -- I believe someone here collects stadiumpostcards but can't recall who. Anyway it's up for grabs - just holler andpls include address. ================= To: Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:35:56 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: So how many vintage HOCKEY cards do you have anyway? One last poll. I'm asking how many pre 1981 hockey card singles you have. If you had every vintage hockey card produced, it would be about 10,000 cards. I counted 4,616 OPC cards, 904 Parkhurst, and 3,840 Topps cards in the regular sets. I'm at about 900 myself, plenty to go. A few guys have already given me their numbers, but it would help to get them again, if you don't mind. If you don't collect hockey, no reply needed. I'll let you know the I have actually looked into how many boxing, golf, and cards from other sports are out there as well but I won't bother you with those. If you had them all, it would be about 3,000 cards I'm estimating. You can let me know your hockey numbers by email or Ramblings. Thanks much. I'm betting there will be some wide ranges among us on hockey. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:19:17 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Spring Cleaning "OBC Style" part 2 1. 1962 Topps stamp panel #244 Yankees and Cardinals (stamp album add attached) 2. 1965 Topps football "tall-boy" #103 KC Chiefs EJ Holub 3. 1967 Topps "pin-up" #26 Ron Santo (Bob Neill sent me this but I already have 4. 1966 Topps baseball starter set of 19 diff all commons. Also included 2 1966 "rub-offs" inserts 5. 1967 Topps starter set of 26 diff all commons ================= Date: 16 Apr 2014 11:11:05 -0700 To: From: Subject: New non-sports WL created ================= Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:49:08 -0700 To: "" From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New non-sports WL created Some coming your way... World on Wheels 4, 14, 21, 135 Batman Red 7, 9, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 24, 27, 29, 30, 34, 42, 44 John Stamper On Apr 16, 2014, at 11:11 AM, wrote: > I've gone ahead & created a wantlist for my new non-sport wants. > Right now, I have these sets listed: > 54T World On Wheels > 56T Flags Of The World > 56T US Presidents > 62T Civil War > 64T Beatles B&W, Color, & Hard Days Night > 66T Batman Red, Black & Blue bats > Eventually I might add the Rails & Sails, Monkees, and Batman color sets,but for now I think that's a decent start. Thanks to Joe Denning, guru, & TJ fof getting me started on the Flags, Beatles & Batman red/black bat sets. The WoW , Presidents, & Civil War sets are ones I think are pretty nifty,but I have a total of zero cards for. So far. > The list is linked on my main page & can be accessed directly at > http://obctom.i8.com/Non_Sports.html > Tom ================= Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:51:43 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: How Many Hockey Cards? How many hockey cards do I have? 3,231 Just like football and basketball, I started collecting hockey cards (just Topps) during the National Convention 2012 Baltimore. (You guys may remember the =93sewer find=94). I have all of the 1970s sets and also 1980 complete so that equals 2,552 cards. Many of the 1970s sets I just purchased full sets on ebay. Inserts I have 16 of the 1971 story booklets, all 22 of the 1977 glossys, and all 21 of the 1979 team decals. 2,611 1954 Topps 46 of 66 or 69% complete (MY FAV) 1957 Topps 30 of 66 or 45% complete 1958 Topps 21 of 66 or 32% complete 1959 Topps 25 of 66 or 38% complete 1960 Topps 19 of 66 or 29% complete 1961 Topps 27 of 66 or 41% complete 1962 Topps 23 of 66 or 35% complete 1963 Topps 24 of 66 or 36% complete 1964 Topps 51 of 110 or 46% complete (the tall boys) 1965 Topps 61 of 128 or 48% complete 1966 Topps 40 of 132 or 30% complete 1967 Topps 19 of 132 or 14% complete 1968 Topps 105 of 132 or 80% complete 1969 Topps 129 of 132 or 98% complete Why do I have so few 1967 Topps hockey cards? 1950s and 1960s Topps hockey I have 620 plus 2,611 my total is 3,231 ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:24:39 -0400 (EDT) To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Spring Cleaning "OBC Style" Content-Language: en Hey Larry, Up your nose with a rubber hose! LOL In a message dated 4/13/2014 11:53:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, larrytipton@windstream.net writes: Available for the asking: 1. Starter set of six 1953 Topps "Fighting Marines". There are 96 cards in the set and believe it or not these are not in to bad of shape. These are little cards like 1949 Bowman baseball. 2. Starter set 14 diff 1954 Bowman football cards there are 128 in the set. Nice big cards and the set is not that difficult George Blanda RC is the most expensive card in the set. 3. 1957 Topps "Goofy Postcards" 4 different out of 60 in the set. Classic ten year old humor perfect for this group:) 4. 1962 Leaf "Mr Foneys Funnies" also known as "Foney Adds" 72 cards in the set here are three different to get you started. Like "wacky Packages" released in the 70s included is #44 "Kill-logs Chips N Flakes" you get the 5. 1962 Topps "Ben Casey and Dr Kildare" from the TV show 110 cards in the set here are seven different to get you started. Why I have these in my dupes box they are my sisters cards yea thats it! 6. 1964 Donruss "Addams Family" two cards there are 66 in the set. Neither of the two cards picture Morticia or "Tish" as I liked to call her:) 7. 1973 Topps "You'll Die Laughing" 128 cards in the set here are 12 different. B&W monster pics on the front, purple backs with a joke. 8. 197(?) Wacky Packages I know nothing about these two checklist cards included (4th and 6th series). 18 stickers included the outline portion of the stickers have been removed. Dude you can stick them on the refrigerator at work or something and your boss will get all mad at you! 2 1979 Fleer "Crazy Labels" included just for fun. 9. 1976 Donruss "Bionic Woman" Lindsay Wagner BITD (back in the day) she was super hot here are 4 different out of the 44 card set. 10. 1979 Topps "Welcome Back Kotter" ever wonder what Sals teenage years were like? 53 cards in the set here are 11 different. 11. 1977 Star Wars second series (red cards) 29 different. 12. 1978 "Mork and Mindy" 99 card set here are 21 different, Na-No Na-No ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 10:02:35 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jimi Subject: Looking to add some vintage non-baseball sets.....HELP?! Good morning all! OK, so here's the deal, just listening to you guys all talk about your non-baseball portions of your collections has gotten me anxious to start collecting some vintage sets. :) I'd love to hear some feedback on which sets, if I were to choose just one maybe two of each sport, to start collecting. I guess for me, something aesthetically pleasing and not TOO hard to complete. Nothing similar to the '52T baseball set! :) Any suggestions? I'd like to stick to pre 1969 for FB as once upon a time I had a near run from 1969 on up. But after my brother-in-law's accident 2 years ago, I stopped collecting FB since I didn't have someone to collect it with or have FBcardboard conversation with. His dad is the CFO of the Football HOF and we used to go to the inductions each year. For basketball and hockey (especially hockey), I know very little!!! Whichsets do you guys think would be a good one for me to start with that lookscool and won't kill my wallet? Your feedback is greatly appreciated! Throw your thoughts out there, and I'll let you guys decide my path! Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:31:27 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Poll Results Here are the results of the various polls at the moment. Hopefully the formatting will come through. Let me know if you can't figure it out. George Vrechek vintage population Hi # in OBC # responses ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:57:04 -0700 To: George Vrechek From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results Now you need to find out if we pooled our cards together how close would webe to the 145,700 total Sent from my iPad > On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "George Vrechek" wrote: > Here are the results of the various polls at the moment. Hopefully the formatting will come through. Let me know if you can=E2=99t figure it out. > George Vrechek > vintage population > Hi # in OBC > # responses > average > Baseball > 110,000 > 30,644 > 34 > 16,846 > Football > 20,000 > 14,565 > 19 > 6,240 > basketball > 3,700 > 2,775 > 16 > 1,453 > Hockey > 12,000 > 4,744 > 8 > 2,095 > 145,700 > 52,728 > 26,634 > 100% > 36% > 18% ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 19:59:09 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: Looking to add some vintage non-baseball sets.....HELP?! I think any of the Topps football sets can put together without to much difficulty. Each set usually contain one or two high dollar cards. I would saythe hardest might be the 1965 "tall-boys" which includes the Joe Namath RCand the 1955 All-American which has some expensive cards too (Jim Thorpe, Four Horsemen, Red Grange, Knute Rockne). The 1956 Topps set is pretty easy, and there always seems to be plenty of 1958 1959 and 1960 Topps football cards floating around. I think 1959 and 1960 Topps might be a good choice. There are so few basketball sets, I would probably go for an early 1970s set that feature the "short-shorts" and big afro hair styles. 1971-72 and 1972-73 (Dr J rookie card) are good examples. WARNING do NOT collect the 1975-76 Topps basketball set the numbers on the back are impossible to read:) Hockey cards from the 50s and early 60s (Topps) are complete at 66 cards thats the good news. There just doesn't seem to be that many of them around. 1970s Topps hockey cards aren't that tough. I always liked how the 1970-71 Topps and the 1971-72 Topps hockey cards looked like. ================= To: Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:28:52 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: Looking to add some vintage non-baseball sets.....HELP?! Guru's advice to Jimi sounds pretty good to me, but I can tell you what happens next. I wrote the following for a future SCD article on what to collect next - Collecting is a progressive addiction. It may start innocently with a friend introducing us to collecting and even giving us a few freebies. We dabble into buying cards of favorite players from our youth. We progress to collecting sets from those childhood years. That feels pretty good, and soon we are tempted into expanding into earlier and later years. We get hooked on the high that comes from completing sets, and we move from baseball to football, basketball, hockey, boxing, and non-sports cards. We buy from dealers in poorly lit hotel meeting rooms. Eventually we are completely addicted and start bidding furiously on inserts, test issues, regionals, tobacco cards, exhibit cards, early gum cards, variations, printing differences, and upgrades to all of them. The collectors' eyes start to glaze over as they move into progressive rounds of the addiction. Bobble heads and Slurpee cups appear on den and basement shelves. Second and third sets accumulate. Family members enable the addicts by covering up for them when they miss family events to visit dealers instead. Soon the addicts are looking for autographs of 19th-century ball players, uniforms of 300-game winners, Old Judge variations, and Ty Cobb's false teeth. George Vrechek ================= To: George Vrechek , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 10:33:19 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Looking to add some vintage non-baseball This being a "progressive addiction" is the concept behind the discussion Ihave with card show promoters around allowing trading at shows. I just never had a name for it. Thanks for that! :) I've always contended that trading promotes additional sales, or at the least, does not REDUCE existing sales (though they may shift from one dealer to another). Through trading, collectors may fill holes, but even more than that, they create new holes that just "need" to be filled. My personal example is that if I hadn't been able to trade for a nice '55 Bowman starter from another trader, I would never even have even considered BUYING the Mantle off a dealer. Would I have spent that Mantle money on something else? Probably, but at the same time, that answer only reinforces the point about trading. That the money WILL be spent on collecting something. Maybe those of us in "trading groups" are the exception to the general collecting population. Maybe WE have a progressive addiction and other "collectors" don't. But I would venture that outside of trading groups, this "progressive addiction" is common among most collectors, be it cards, stamps, coins, or barbed wire. And if more were "exposed" to trading, it might even create more demand. In any case... That might something worth a getting some hard evidence behind. Do you have a collecting goal? When you reach that goal, will you be "done" collecting? Or will you find something else to collect? At what point, do you look for the next card / set / player / item to collect? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:28:52 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Looking to add some vintage non-baseball sets.....HELP?! Guru=92s advice to Jimi sounds pretty good to me, but I can tell you what happens next. I wrote the following for a future SCD article on what to collect next =96 Collecting is a progressive addiction. It may start innocently with a friend introducing us to collecting and even giving us a few freebies. We dabble into buying cards of favorite players from our youth. We progress to collecting sets from those childhood years. That feels pretty good, and soon we are tempted into expanding into earlier and later years. We get hooked on the high that comes from completing sets, and we move from baseball to football, basketball, hockey, boxing, and non-sports cards. We buyfrom dealers in poorly lit hotel meeting rooms. Eventually we are completely addicted and start bidding furiously on inserts, test issues, regionals,tobacco cards, exhibit cards, early gum cards, variations, printing differences, and upgrades to all of them. The collectors=92 eyes start to glaze over as they move into progressive rounds of the addiction. Bobble heads andSlurpee cups appear on den and basement shelves. Second and third sets accumulate. Family members enable the addicts by covering up for them when they miss family events to visit dealers instead. Soon the addicts are lookingfor autographs of 19th-century ball players, uniforms of 300-game winners,Old Judge variations, and Ty Cobb=92s false teeth. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 11:03:59 -0700 To: George Vrechek From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results With all the talk of Non Sports lately. It would be interesting to see how many collect them and how many they have. Only vintage pre1981. And again only unique cards. Not counting second sets or dupes. I have 1,970 Non Sports John Stamper On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "George Vrechek" wrote: > Here are the results of the various polls at the moment. Hopefully the formatting will come through. Let me know if you can=E2=99t figure it out. > George Vrechek > vintage population > Hi # in OBC > # responses > average > Baseball > 110,000 > 30,644 > 34 > 16,846 > Football > 20,000 > 14,565 > 19 > 6,240 > basketball > 3,700 > 2,775 > 16 > 1,453 > Hockey > 12,000 > 4,744 > 8 > 2,095 > 145,700 > 52,728 > 26,634 > 100% > 36% > 18% ================= To: "'Stamper'" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:01:21 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results I have 634 vinatge cards in my non-collection of sports cards. Thanks, John, for keeping score on this one. George Vrechek From: Stamper [mailto:holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:04 PM To: George Vrechek Cc: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results With all the talk of Non Sports lately. It would be interesting to see how many collect them and how many they have. Only vintage pre1981. And again only unique cards. Not counting second sets or dupes. I have 1,970 Non Sports John Stamper On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "George Vrechek" wrote: Here are the results of the various polls at the moment. Hopefully the formatting will come through. Let me know if you can=E2=99t figure it out. George Vrechek vintage population Hi # in OBC # responses ================= To: George Vrechek , 'Stamper' Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:39:59 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results I have well over 5500 vintage non-sports, not including any UK issues. To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:01:21 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results I have 634 vinatge cards in my non-collection of sports cards. Thanks, John, for keeping score on this one.George Vrechek From: Stamper [mailto:holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 1:04 PM To: George Vrechek Cc: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll Results With all the talk of Non Sports lately. It would be interesting to see how many collect them and how many they have. Only vintage pre1981. And again only unique cards. Not counting second sets or dupes. I have 1,970 Non Sports cards. John Stamper On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:31 PM, "George Vrechek" wrote: Here are the results of the various polls at the moment. Hopefully the formatting will come through. Let me know if you can=92t figure it out.George vintage population Hi # in OBC# responsesaverageBaseball 110,000 30,644 34 16,846 Football 20,000 14,565 19 6,240 basketball 3,700 2,775 16 1,453 Hockey 12,000 4,744 8 2,095 145,700 52,728 26,634 ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: mark zentkovich Subject: dodgers book available dodgers journal history book available for trade Dodgers Journal: Year by Year and Day by Day with the Brooklyn and Los Angeles Dodgers Since 1884 http://www.bookdepository.com/Dodgers-Journal-John-Snyder/9781578603336 it is pretty thick, so it will be pretty expensive to ship, but hopefully someone will enjoy thanks, mark zentkovich ================= Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:34:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: pre 1981 non sports I have 5,616 in my collection ================= Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:59:55 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: 31,335 Content-Disposition: inline; ================= To: Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 17:41:44 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Finding cards in all the strange places I went to the Jim Taylor postcard show today outside Chicago. Stadium postcard collector Ray Medeiros got me into looking at stadium and sports postcards. He advised me that regular baseball cards will usually be overpriced at postcard shows. I had only run across a few vintage sports cards or postcards at prior shows. This show was a nice low-key event, $4 admission, maybe 20 dealers. I asked dealers for sports and arcade cards. I found both at one table. The dealer had 7 football exhibits from 1948-52 all priced at $10 each. He also had a bunch of baseball exhibits that were reprints or counterfeits with funny colored-backs also at $10. I figured he didn't really know what he had. It seems normal for the postcard guys to price stars, rookies, commons all the same, since there aren't many rookie Grand Canyon cards. I didn't know the values of the football cards off-hand, but told him I'd be interested but at no more than $3 or $4 each. He offered me the 7 cards (VGish) for $25 which I accepted. I thought I had come out all right with a Van Buren, Graham, Luckman, and Baugh. They were all good deals. I also got a Jack Jacobs who I'd never heard of until I looked him up in my catalog at home. It turns out he is one of the cards printed only in one year and lists for $300 in nr mint. The other side of the coin though, is now I'm collecting the set, which looks to be darned near impossible, if properly priced. Maybe I'll just keeping digging at the postcard shows. George Vrechek ================= To: "'George Vrechek'" , Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 20:01:20 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Finding cards in all the strange places My wife and I go to Antique stores and shows quite a bit and often there will be a section of postcards, usually there are 1950s or 60s Exhibits that seem a bit overpriced so I pass. I did pick up a 1920s Exhibit of a Boxer for 3 or 4 bucks. Found the same card on Ebay - for 3 or 4 bucks. At least I saved on shipping. Haven't had too much luck at Antique stores or shows for cards. Picked up a T206 beater for $5 - that's about it. See a lot of 1965 commons at $5 and similar prices. One place had a bunch of 1966 commons in VGish at a buck a piece, how did I know the price? - they wrote $1 on the back of each card! One day I hope to make a big find. I'll definitely let the group know when/if that happens From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Vrechek Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 6:42 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Finding cards in all the strange places I went to the Jim Taylor postcard show today outside Chicago. Stadium postcard collector Ray Medeiros got me into looking at stadium and sports postcards. He advised me that regular baseball cards will usually be overpriced at postcard shows. I had only run across a few vintage sports cards or postcards at prior shows. This show was a nice low-key event, $4 admission, maybe 20 dealers. I asked dealers for sports and arcade cards. I found both at one table. The dealer had 7 football exhibits from 1948-52 all priced at $10 each. He also had a bunch of baseball exhibits that were reprints or counterfeits with funny colored-backs also at $10. I figured he didn't really know what he had. It seems normal for the postcard guys to price stars, rookies, commons all the same, since there aren't many rookie Grand Canyon cards. I didn't know the values of the football cards off-hand, but told him I'd be interested but at no more than $3 or $4 each. He offered me the 7 cards (VGish) for $25 which I accepted. I thought I had come out all right with a Van Buren, Graham, Luckman, and Baugh. They were all good deals. I also got a Jack Jacobs who I'd never heard of until I looked him up in my catalog at home. It turns out he is one of the cards printed only in one year and lists for $300 in nr mint. The other side of the coin though, is now I'm collecting the set, which looks to be darned near impossible, if properly priced. Maybe I'll just keeping digging at the postcard shows. George Vrechek No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7263 - Release Date: 03/28/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 0:21:49 +0000 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Baseball stadium identification help Ok guys, this is a little out of the ordinary. I was at the local flea market today, and for some bizarre reason I purchased a box of replica baseball stadiums - current major league, old major league, minor league, a little of everything. Don't know why, just seemed like the right thing to do. One of them has me a little perplexed - at first glance, I thought it was the Polo Grounds, but none of the details are right. Obviously an old field, maybe primarily meant for football but converted to baseball. I know that some of you guys know the answer! ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 21:13:35 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Who's working on 1974 Planet of the Apes? Anyone working on 1974 Topps Planet of the Apes set? Or anyone want to start working on the set? I picked up a bunch of these earlier today and need a few and have some dupes. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 21:27:23 -0400 (EDT) To: malsman250@neo.rr.com From: nickcov@snip.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball stadium identification help It looks like you have war memorial stadium home of the aaa buffalo bisons. Have a good night Nick covello Ok guys, this is a little out of the ordinary. > I was at the local flea market today, and for some bizarre reason I > purchased a box of replica baseball stadiums - current major league, old > major league, minor league, a little of everything. Don't know why, just > seemed like the right thing to do. > One of them has me a little perplexed - at first glance, I thought it was > the Polo Grounds, but none of the details are right. Obviously an old > field, maybe primarily meant for football but converted to baseball. I > know that some of you guys know the answer! ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 3:00:42 +0000 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Fwd: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball stadium identification help Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball stadium identification help To: malsman250@neo.rr.com Content-Language: en a friend of mine has this to say about your picture In a message dated 4/19/2014 8:56:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stew@stewthornley.net writes: Definitely not the Polo Grounds. I think it's War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo; other guess is Civic Stadium in Portland. Should be plenty of photos of those stadiums out there, and he should be able to identify it from that. > thought you might be able to help my friend as you did a book on the > ground. you can email me back if you can help thanks > ____________________________________ > From: malsman250@neo.rr.com > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: 4/19/2014 7:22:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time > Subj: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball stadium identification help > Ok guys, this is a little out of the ordinary. > I was at the local flea market today, and for some bizarre reason I > purchased a box of replica baseball stadiums - current major league, old major > league, minor league, a little of everything. Don't know why, just > like the right thing to do. > One of them has me a little perplexed - at first glance, I thought it > the Polo Grounds, but none of the details are right. Obviously an old > field, maybe primarily meant for football but converted to baseball. I know that > some of you guys know the answer! Stew Thornley 1082 Lovell Avenue Roseville, Minnesota 55113-4419 http://stewthornley.net ================= To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com, vrechek@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 08:20:24 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Looking to add some vintage non-baseball Taylor asked: Do you have a collecting goal? When you reach that goal, will you be "done" collecting? Or will you find something else to collect? At what point, do you look for the next card / set / player / item to collect? I think almost all of us fall into the "find something else to collect". Ihave a "small;" interim goal to finish the 76 sets that are on my 5 or less to complete list. If I get those 178 cards, I will knock off those 76 sets. That will let me concentrate even more on my prewar sets. So while people think I have too many sets on my lists, many will rarely be hit. I am always looking for a good deal on a card/starter set, that I do not have. That way as some of the other sets I am working on do get finished, I already have others to work on. Budget only goes so far, so I would ratherget a good deal on something new, than to overpay to finish something off. Mike Rich Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html VISIT YOUR GROUP =E2=A2 Privacy =E2=A2 Unsubscribe =E2=A2 Terms of Use ================= To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:15:25 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Update on vintage hockey card count One more count was added to the survey. It takes a while to count 10,914 hockey cards, I guess. One of our members has picked up a lot of hockey cards, although he's practically in Canada to start with. ================= To: Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:45:10 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: jack Morris RC... takers? I must have grabed this out of a 25cent bin or somthing... before I put it in my "random stars box", would anyone like me to mail them a '79 #703 Jack Morris ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 22:46:06 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: 52 Bowman opinion With only 5 more to go to finish the set (including the Werhle variation-thanks Ken), would you guys go the 22 bucks for this Musial just to say you have the card? It might grade out GGS 11... http://www.ebay.com/itm/121321858402?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984. ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 22:51:20 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Apr 20, 2014 10:46 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion With only 5 more to go to finish the set (including the Werhle variation-thanks Ken), would you guys go the 22 bucks for this Musial just to say you have the card? It might grade out GGS 11... http://www.ebay.com/itm/121321858402?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1423.l2649 ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:52:25 -0700 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion That's a steal! Sent from my iPad > On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:46 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: > With only 5 more to go to finish the set (including the Werhle variation-thanks Ken), would you guys go the 22 bucks for this Musial just to say youhave the card? It might grade out GGS 11... > http://www.ebay.com/itm/121321858402?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1423.l2649 ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 02:53:21 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings , ChicoD1 From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion Sal, I think that card will get several more bids, so its not a lock that 22 will do it(w/shipping)
As for whether I'd add that card, it would matter whether it fit in with the rest of the set or not...
If your set is all rather nice, you should get a rather nice Musial (iconic card!), if the set is a bit ragged, then this version will be perfect!
(How's the Mantle? Maybe think about at least mirroring those two in condition)

OBC Forever,

Brian

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================= To: "familytoad@comcast.net" , OBC-Ramblings Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 23:02:03 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion Looks good to me! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; ChicoD1@aol.com From: familytoad@comcast.net Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 02:53:21 +0000 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion Sal, I think that card will get several more bids, so its not a lock that 22 will do it(w/shipping) As for whether I'd add that card, it would matter whether it fit in with the rest of the set or not... If your set is all rather nice, you should get a rather nice Musial (iconiccard!), if the set is a bit ragged, then this version will be perfect! (How's the Mantle? Maybe think about at least mirroring those two in condition) OBC Forever, Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: ChicoD1@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent:Mon Apr 21 02:46:15 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Bowman opinion With only 5 more to go to finish the set (including the Werhle variation-thanks Ken), would you guys go the 22 bucks for this Musial just to say you have the card? It might grade out GGS 11... http://www.ebay.com/itm/121321858402?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1423.l2649 ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 23:39:57 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jimi Subject: a few 1962 Topps Green Tints available Hey guys, LMK if you can use any of these '62T green tints and I'll get them sent outshortly: 119, 152, 161, 178, 186, 189, 192 CL (no comma) Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:35:30 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Rob Bessette Subject: 1969 Topps starter set 497/664 Hi OBCers, Hope this finds you well. Just wanted to offer this up to some of the goodfolks in OBC land and see if there is any interest. I just picked up a large starter set from 1969 Topps with lots of stars included. I'm just looking to recoup costs, so I'm looking to get exactly what I put into it: $275PayPal FF DLVD. 497/664 75% of the set. Cards range from P-VG/EX with the average beinglow VG condition, some are better some are worse. There is creasing, minimal MK, and minimal paper loss. It=92s far from a beauty, but would be a great starter set for the folks in OBC who don=92t mind an off grade card here or there. The higher numbers and stars are generally in better condition than the commons (weird, I know). Here's the breakdown of HOFers... All the League Leader cards except #2 Ernie Banks Walt Alston Joe Morgan Roberto Clemente Luis Aparicio Lou Brock Hank Aaron Bob Gibson CL Pete Rose Carl Yastrzemski Leo Durocher Bob Gibson WS Lou Brock WS Jim Bunning Willie Mays Bob Gibson Jim Hunter Don Drysdale CL Bill Mazeroski Phil Niekro Juan Marichal Orlando Cepeda Mickey Mantle CL Willie McCovey AS Rod Carew AS Ron Santo AS Brooks Robinson AS Lou Brock AS Willie McCovey Billy Williams Joe Torre Red Schoendienst Gaylord Perry Brooks Robinson CL Rod Carew Willie Stargell Rod Carew CL as well as 21 high numbers Also includes semi stars/non HOF stars like Gil Hodges, Rusty Staub, Denny McLain (31 win year), Rico Petrocelli, Tony Conigliaro etc. All cards are in penny sleeves and would be delivered in a 800 count box. With whoever purchases I=92ll also throw in as many hits as I can from my dupe box that hit want lists. If there are any questions at all, please don=92t hesitate to ask. ================= Date: 22 Apr 2014 07:28:27 -0700 To: From: Subject: Attention FOOT guys & Reds fans - Big Cincy show this weekend ================= Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:07:29 -0400 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention FOOT guys & Reds fans - Big Cincy ================= To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 11:33:13 -0400 (EDT) From: larrygers@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention FOOT guys & Reds fans - Big Cincy show this I plan on being there on Saturday also. -----Original Message----- From: directorth To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 10:28 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention FOOT guys & Reds fans - Big Cincy show this The twice-a-year show at Moeller High School, just north of Cincy, is this upcoming weekend (Friday/Saturday/Sunday), and for those of you who are into autographs, there are a couple of members of the '68 Tigers who are scheduled to appear, along with some Big Red machine era Reds. My HOMer Dave Concepcion will be there, although I won't spend the $ for him to sign. There's always a great selection of vintage there, and a fairly good number of our favorite dealers. I'll be there on Saturday; I think Wes is planning on being there. Gersh & Ken, will you be there? Jimi, you're an Ohio guy too - hope you can make it down. If anyone needs directions, let me know. It's easy to get to. Scheduled to appear: JOE MORGAN (Saturday 11am-1pm, $55 small flat/ball, $65 BRM Items/large flats, $90 bats/jerseys, Free HOF inscription with auto ticket, $20 all other inscriptions) DAVE CONCEPCION (Frid ay 6-8pm & Saturday 11am-1pm, $35 small flat/ball, $45 large flat/equipment, $10 inscriptions) LEE MAY (Friday 6-9pm, $15 Any Item, $10 inscriptions) DENNY MCLAIN (Saturday 2-4pm & Sunday 11am-1pm, $20 small flat/ball, $30 large flat/equipment, $5 inscriptions) DOUG BAIR (Saturday 2-4pm & Sunday 11am-1pm, $10 Any Item) JON WARDEN (Saturday 2-4pm & Sunday 11am-1pm, $10 Any Item) show hours: Friday April 25 4pm-9pm, Saturday April 26 10am-5pm Sunday April 27 10am-4pm. Admission to the show is $3 a day, $6 for the weekend pass for all 3 days or $15 for a VIP pass which gets you early admission at 3pm Friday and entryin to the VIP lines for any autograph guests you may be purchasing ticketsfor. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:08:57 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: 55 Topps Set Picked up the next to last card for my 55 set off eBay today. Only need to up grade one card and get a Clemente rookie. Anyone want to be a big time hero?? Actually hoping to save up to get a PSA-2ish one at the National. ================= Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:54:51 -0700 (PDT) To: "vintage card traders.com" , From: Patrick Prickett Subject: May 3 Gardena, CA Card Show Hi All, Not sure who is planning on attending the Gardena, CA Sports collectibles show (see flyer for details), but I will be there. Look for the guy with the black and white poster ofthe 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card if you don't already know me! Starts at 10 am and I should be there opening until it closes. If you live and the area, and haven't been - you're missing out. Definitely the best card show in the area with some incredible dealers and great deals. If you're coming, please let me know and i'll keep an eye open for you. ================= Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 18:03:30 -0700 To: Patrick Prickett From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] May 3 Gardena, CA Card Show [1 Attachment] I will be there! John Stamper On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Patrick Prickett wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Patrick Prickett included below] > Hi All, > Not sure who is planning on attending the Gardena, CA Sports collectiblesshow (see flyer for details), but I will be there. Look for the guy with the black and white poster of the 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card if you don't already know me! > Starts at 10 am and I should be there opening until it closes. > If you live and the area, and haven't been - you're missing out. Definitely the best card show in the area with some incredible dealers and great deals. > If you're coming, please let me know and i'll keep an eye open for you. > Cheers, > Patrick ================= To: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com, patrick_prickett@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 21:12:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] May 3 Gardena, CA Card Show I too will be there...hope to bring Bill Phippen (the soon to be ex-owner of the McGreachery OJ) as well. -----Original Message----- From: Stamper To: Patrick Prickett Cc: vintage card traders.com ; OBC Ramblings Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 6:03 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] May 3 Gardena, CA Card Show I will be there! John Stamper On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Patrick Prickett wrote: Hi All, Not sure who is planning on attending the Gardena, CA Sports collectibles show (see flyer for details), but I will be there. Look for the guy with the black and white poster of the 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle card if you don't already know me! Starts at 10 am and I should be there opening until it closes. If you live and the area, and haven't been - you're missing out. Definitely the best card show in the area with some incredible dealers and great deals. If you're coming, please let me know and i'll keep an eye open for you. ================= Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:00:31 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Diamanti Subject: The Lines are Drawn Greetings Cardboard lovers: Want to know what neighborhoods are safe when it comes to speaking out in support of your team? Look no further than this link: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/23/upshot/24-upshot-baseball.html?_r=0 No Canadian map, Grant..... Coffeedude Diamanti ================= Date: 24 Apr 2014 10:57:54 -0700 To: From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] May 3 Gardena, CA Card Show ================= Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:00:38 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Jerry Coker Subject: Waiver Wire In an effort to try to catch up on some return fire for all the great packages I've received recently I thought I'd try a waiver wire to start with. Priority will go to those I owe (which are many) but feel free to ask away! All cards are Tipton, but there are a few that are not too bad :-) Please include your shipping address! Thanks! 1961 Topps: 33 59 61 64 66 71 76 90 105 225 246 258 278 410 1964 Philadelphia FB: 1970 Topps: 42 135 171 278 298 337 438 452 478 1972 Topps: 11 21 39 54 74 75 76 78 81 84 86 91 99 103 106 109 123 128 129 131 143 147 156 165 171 194 197 351 353 477 482 495 501 508 516 601 Jerry Coker ================= Date: 25 Apr 2014 21:16:16 -0700 To: From: Subject: Toronto show ================= To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 13:18:33 +0000 From: Subject: Gremlins-73 Hello all Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was notthe 1973 topps Need #49,615 Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 Anthony arbeeny Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= To: , Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 07:34:09 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 "Gremlins" has been in use around OBC for a long time.......maybe it is time to enshrine the word in the OBC Slang Dictionary? It has happened to many of "Gremlins: You think you have a set complete, and decide one day to go through it. You come up one card short.....or maybe two.....damn gremlins have been at it again." From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com Sent: April-26-14 6:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 Hello all Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was not the case. 1973 topps Need #49,615 Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 Anthony arbeeny Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7395 - Release Date: 04/25/14 ================= Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:43:55 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley From: Jake Elwell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 There is also the phenomenon of what I call a "reverse gremlin" -- you receive what you think is a needed hit but then when you go to add it to your set you find that you already have the card. > On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:34 AM, "Grant Rainsley" wrote: > =E2=9CGremlins=E2=9D has been in use around OBC for a long time.......maybe it is time to enshrine the word in the OBC Slang Dictionary? It has happened to many of us. > =E2=9CGremlins: You think you have a set complete, and decide one day to go through it. You come up one card short.....or maybe two.....damn gremlins have been at it again.=E2=9D > Worthy? > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com > Sent: April-26-14 6:19 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 > Hello all > Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was not the case. > 1973 topps > Need #49,615 > Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex > #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 > Lmk > Any > Anthony arbeeny > Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone > ________________________________ > The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend itto the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7395 - Release Date: 04/25/14 ================= To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 15:11:47 +0000 From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 I am for it Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:34 AM, "Grant Rainsley" > =93Gremlins=94 has been in use around OBC for a long time.......maybe it istime to enshrine the word in the OBC Slang Dictionary? It has happened to many of us. =93Gremlins: You think you have a set complete, and decide one day to go through it. You come up one card short.....or maybe two.....damn gremlins have been at it again.=94 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com Sent: April-26-14 6:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 Hello all Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was notthe 1973 topps Need #49,615 Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 Anthony arbeeny Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7395 - Release Date: 04/25/14 The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= To: Jake Elwell , Grant Rainsley Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 11:43:07 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 You mean a dopplegremlin. CC: anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: grains@shaw.ca From: jelwell8@earthlink.net Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:43:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 There is also the phenomenon of what I call a "reverse gremlin" -- you receive what you think is a needed hit but then when you go to add it to your set you find that you already have the card. On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:34 AM, "Grant Rainsley" wrote: =93Gremlins=94 has been in use around OBC for a long time.......maybe it istime to enshrine the word in the OBC Slang Dictionary? It has happened to many of us. =93Gremlins: You think you have a set complete, and decide one day to go through it. You come up one card short.....or maybe two.....damn gremlins have been at it again.=94 Worthy? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com Sent: April-26-14 6:19 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 Hello all Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was notthe 1973 topps Need #49,615 Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 Anthony arbeeny Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7395 - Release Date: 04/25/14 ================= Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 10:04:32 -0600 To: Jake Elwell From: Marshall West Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 I agree with these gremlinology terms. I'm a very cautious "gremlin" man. But my history with "reverse gremlins" is legend. Marshall West On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Jake Elwell wrote: > There is also the phenomenon of what I call a "reverse gremlin" -- you receive what you think is a needed hit but then when you go to add it to yourset you find that you already have the card. > On Apr 26, 2014, at 10:34 AM, "Grant Rainsley" wrote: >> =93Gremlins=94 has been in use around OBC for a long time.......maybe itis time to enshrine the word in the OBC Slang Dictionary? It has happened to many of us. >> =93Gremlins: You think you have a set complete, and decide one day to gothrough it. You come up one card short.....or maybe two.....damn gremlins have been at it again.=94 >> Worthy? >> From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com >> Sent: April-26-14 6:19 AM >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 >> Hello all >> Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was not the case. >> 1973 topps >> Need #49,615 >> Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex >> #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 >> Lmk >> Any >> Anthony arbeeny >> Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone >> ________________________________ >> The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neithergiven nor endorsed by the company. >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7395 - Release Date: 04/25/14 ================= To: anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 12:35:41 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 Twins coaches will not be hard to find, but the Schmidt rookie, is a major gremlin. -----Original Message----- From: anthony.arbeeny To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Apr 26, 2014 9:18 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 Hello all Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was notthe 1973 topps Need #49,615 Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 Anthony arbeeny Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 12:21:37 -0500 To: Grant Rainsley From: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 Absolutely worthy. And what an awful feeling when you find one. You think the set is complete..... But no! It's like the skier on ABC Wide World of Sports. The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Grant Rainsley" wrote: > =E2=9CGremlins=E2=9D has been in use around OBC for a long time.......maybe it is time to enshrine the word in the OBC Slang Dictionary? It has happened to many of us. > =E2=9CGremlins: You think you have a set complete, and decide one day to go through it. You come up one card short.....or maybe two.....damn gremlins have been at it again.=E2=9D > Worthy? > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com > Sent: April-26-14 6:19 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Gremlins-73 > Hello all > Thought the set was done with the final card two weeks ago and that was not the case. > 1973 topps > Need #49,615 > Also would need upgrades to vg/ ex > #99,80,203,210,274,295,318,350 Seaver),517,523,541,550,573,585,631 > Lmk > Any > Anthony arbeeny > Sent from Anthony Arbeeny iPhone > ________________________________ > The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend itto the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4570 / Virus Database: 3920/7395 - Release Date: 04/25/14 ================= Date: 26 Apr 2014 14:54:59 -0700 To: From: Subject: Cincinnati show report ================= To: Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 19:21:17 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: 34 Gehrig on Net54 Pretty cheap 34 Gehrig. Decent shape, except for that one corner http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=185517 ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 04:26:00 GMT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Peter" Subject: Guru HITS the spots... Content-Disposition: inline Guru - Larry TIPTON - gives me two items that I now can not live without! a72 Joe Morgan TRADED High # card! A card that would have made early days OBC member Terry Woods grind his teeth...you see Joe Morgan was anathema to Mr. Woods...but this card is really something else! One I might expect to get from Mr. Mint and not the Guru I have been looking at it all week, drooling and thinking I should to put it in my bike spokes (if I still had a bike) so I will remember where I got it from...this is not a card that would be graded - OBC "well loved"... After looking at this great Morgan card allweek I get ANOTHER package from Larry and this goes along with other partsof my life that are not early OBC - but more recent... Larry sent me a 1934-36 National Chicle premium of Van Lingle Mungo - this was something that you would send away for when you bought a pack of Diamond Stars in 34-36...An item that has very much to do with then Mungo in the book that I wrote - and now the one man show (play) that Jim and I started writing three weeks ago...getting this premium is perfect timing and a confirmation that our idea of having a one man play (I hope to play Mungo myself) to help promotethe book - is a good idea...We have written 15 pages so far and hope to have a piece that runs 30 to 45 minutes when we finish work-shopping it at the end of May... SO - you all can see that Larry has really hit my sweet spot! Thanks Larry - and to all of you who are reading through this and keeping the essence of true card collecting alive - that is OBC! marcpeter / Peter This fish is Toxic (avoid) Impairs brain function, damages your heart, joints, & skin http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/535c86e8b80046e80164st04vuc ================= Date: 27 Apr 2014 09:04:45 -0700 To: From: Subject: Waiver Wire - Been a while ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 12:27:17 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Jim Thayer Subject: Large starters/near complete sets available from 1958 - 1969 Hey everyone, I=E2=99ve picked up a few lots lately in order to help knock off a bunchof hits to my lists with the thinking that I=E2=99d have large starters/near complete sets available to fellow OBCers. Just looking to get back what I have in them. Prices include shipping. Generally speaking, the lots all below are P - VGEX, with a small amount being EX throughout. I=E2=99d say most lots would be considered G-VG. (no doubles in any of the lots) 1958 Topps ($175): 248 cards (P-VGEX) - includes Maris RC (rough with writing), Williams #1 (G), Spahn AS, Mays AS, Aparicio AS, Banks AS, Mathews AS,Doby, Pappas RC, Spahn, Klu 1959 Topps ($300): 499 cards (P-EX, probably the nicest lot here) - includes 37 high #s, Koufax (P/F with staple holes), Kaline, Banks BT, Colavito BT, Doby, F. Robinson, Schoendienst, Fox AS, Cepeda AS, Perry RC, Ford,Colavito, Mazeroski, Keystone Combo, Cepeda, Drysdale, Stengel, Roberts, Wilhelm, Ashburn, Martin, Hitter=E2=99s Foes, Wynn, Giles, Bunning, =E2=9CPitchers Beware=E2=9D, Fox 1960 Topps ($100): 198 cards, Aparicio, Lopez, Alston, Wynn (low grade group for sure, probably mostly P-G) 1962 Topps ($200): 280 cards (P-EX, but nice lot as a whole), 10-15 high #s, Mays AS, Wilhelm high #, Aparicio AS, Hubbs RC, Wilhelm/Face, Brock RC, Berra, Drysdale, Roberts, Alston, 3 Babe Ruth cards, Powell RC, Hodges, Killebrew, 7 LLs, Mathews 1964 Topps ($250): 348 cards (mostly VGish, some better, some worse), 2 LLs, Torre, =E2=9CFriendly Foes=E2=9D, Koufax WS, Drysdale, Oliva RC, Alston, Fox, B. Williams, Piniella RC, Snider, Mays, Bunning, F. Robinson, Robinson, Lopez, Roberts, Marichal, 5 - 10 high #s 1966 Topps ($250): 393 cards (P - VGEX) about 5 high numbers, Marichal, Sutton RC (VGEX), Jenkins RC (VGEX), 6 LLs, Mazeroski, Mathews, Colavito, Torre, Brock, Killebrew, Banks, Alston, Koufax, Aparicio, Perez, Schoendienst, Hunter, Niekro, Mays 1969 Topps ($225): 478 cards (P-G mostly, but some better), 10-12 high #s, Torre, Schoendienst, B. Williams, Brett RC, Robinson AS, Santo AS, Mantle CL. Cepeda, Marichal, Niekro, Mazeroski, Drysdale CL, Hunter, Sutton, Gibson, Bunning, Brock WS, Aaron, Gibson CL, Brock, Aparicio, Alston, Banks, 9 LLs All cards in penny sleeves. A total of 2,444 different cards from 1958 - 1969. Looking to get $1,400 for the entire lot, or you could grabeach lot individually for the prices listed. Price is actually $1500total, but I took $100 for everything. Just looking to get back whatI have in them with a discount for anyone taking the entire thing. LMK. I actually will have another large load coming in later in the week from 1958 - 1969 (mostly different years in between than this offering), so I willbe able to smash into OBC-Land again. This is NOT something I plan on doing often, but lately I have been able to pick up some nice large lots.My apologies to any who might be offended by this. My intention is to offer up low grade lots that OBCers can use, and at OBC prices. Thanks! ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 17:06:05 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jimi Subject: Fwd: Large starters/near complete sets available from 1958 - 1969 The '62 and '59 sets are already spoken for folks. The rest are still available. Thank you! Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Jim Thayer > Date: April 27, 2014 at 3:27:17 PM EDT > To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" > Subject: Large starters/near complete sets available from 1958 - 1969 > Reply-To: Jim Thayer > Hey everyone, > I=E2=99ve picked up a few lots lately in order to help knock off a bunch of hits to my lists with the thinking that I=E2=99d have large starters/near complete sets available to fellow OBCers. Just looking to get backwhat I have in them. Prices include shipping. > Generally speaking, the lots all below are P - VGEX, with a small amount being EX throughout. I=E2=99d say most lots would be considered G-VG. > (no doubles in any of the lots) > 1958 Topps ($175): 248 cards (P-VGEX) - includes Maris RC (rough with writing), Williams #1 (G), Spahn AS, Mays AS, Aparicio AS, Banks AS, Mathews AS, Doby, Pappas RC, Spahn, Klu > 1959 Topps ($300): 499 cards (P-EX, probably the nicest lot here) - includes 37 high #s, Koufax (P/F with staple holes), Kaline, Banks BT, ColavitoBT, Doby, F. Robinson, Schoendienst, Fox AS, Cepeda AS, Perry RC, Ford, Colavito, Mazeroski, Keystone Combo, Cepeda, Drysdale, Stengel, Roberts, Wilhelm, Ashburn, Martin, Hitter=E2=99s Foes, Wynn, Giles, Bunning, =E2=9CPitchers Beware=E2=9D, Fox > 1960 Topps ($100): 198 cards, Aparicio, Lopez, Alston, Wynn (low grade group for sure, probably mostly P-G) > 1962 Topps ($200): 280 cards (P-EX, but nice lot as a whole), 10-15 high #s, Mays AS, Wilhelm high #, Aparicio AS, Hubbs RC, Wilhelm/Face, Brock RC,Berra, Drysdale, Roberts, Alston, 3 Babe Ruth cards, Powell RC, Hodges, Killebrew, 7 LLs, Mathews > 1964 Topps ($250): 348 cards (mostly VGish, some better, some worse), 2 LLs, Torre, =E2=9CFriendly Foes=E2=9D, Koufax WS, Drysdale, Oliva RC, Alston, Fox, B. Williams, Piniella RC, Snider, Mays, Bunning, F. Robinson, Robinson, Lopez, Roberts, Marichal, 5 - 10 high #s > 1966 Topps ($250): 393 cards (P - VGEX) about 5 high numbers, Marichal, Sutton RC (VGEX), Jenkins RC (VGEX), 6 LLs, Mazeroski, Mathews, Colavito, Torre, Brock, Killebrew, Banks, Alston, Koufax, Aparicio, Perez, Schoendienst, Hunter, Niekro, Mays > 1969 Topps ($225): 478 cards (P-G mostly, but some better), 10-12 high #s, Torre, Schoendienst, B. Williams, Brett RC, Robinson AS, Santo AS, MantleCL. Cepeda, Marichal, Niekro, Mazeroski, Drysdale CL, Hunter, Sutton, Gibson, Bunning, Brock WS, Aaron, Gibson CL, Brock, Aparicio, Alston, Banks, 9 LLs > All cards in penny sleeves. A total of 2,444 different cards from 1958 -1969. Looking to get $1,400 for the entire lot, or you could grab each lot individually for the prices listed. Price is actually $1500 total, but Itook $100 for everything. Just looking to get back what I have in them with a discount for anyone taking the entire thing. LMK. Thanks! > I actually will have another large load coming in later in the week from 1958 - 1969 (mostly different years in between than this offering), so I will be able to smash into OBC-Land again. This is NOT something I plan on doing often, but lately I have been able to pick up some nice large lots. My apologies to any who might be offended by this. My intention is to offerup low grade lots that OBCers can use, and at OBC prices. Thanks! :) > Jimi ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 22:01:15 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Getting close... Hey guys, You know when you are coming to the end of a set and you can almost always predict what that last card you will need or maybe the last 2 (almost always one will be "The Mick")? The 52Bs are coming to the end and with reasonable certainty, I was sure the last 3 would all start with "M". Musial, Mantle, Mays. I just won a small lot of 6 that included Crosetti, which leaves me the "M" guys. Oh yeah, thanks to Ken, I also need the Werle variation with the W missing. I missed out on the Musial last week. I was working and didn't hear my ebay tone on my phone and I missed it :-(. Over the past few weeks I've missed out on Musial and Werle because of that. One guy has the two Werle versions for about 30 bucks. I'm almost tempted to pull the trigger on that but I don't need both, I would rather put those extra bucks to a Musial. Although, if I continue to not find any of the variation, I just Just a few short years ago I was at 92 cards. When I got to 75, I figured I had a shot. And as far as collecting continuing, there will always be a set to build. Actually, this set I might seek upgrades, as a few have paper loss or a chewed off corner. Just a regular ramble. I am so close I can taste it. And BTW, pet peeve time. If you have a reprint, it should NOT be in the same section as the regular card. Ever search for the Mantle? About 250 reprints come up with the real card. I tried using the wild cards, but I still get way too many results. Just my $1.25... ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 20:07:59 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Ed pike Subject: SF show report I went to the TriStar show Sat at the Cow Palace in San Fran ( actually daily city). Well, at least I can say that shows are not dead in SF but they sure ain't what they used to be! Lots of autograph guests on the roster, allof which I missed so that may be driving the economic for "big" shows these There was a reasonable amount of vintage stuff, and a few eye-pooping T3 HOFs in one case that were fun to look at. The good news about local shows is that I was pleased to see Mark M. A couple months ago at a smaller city college sports benefit show, which is a nice idea and hope to see that continue. Ed Pike ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 00:07:13 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jimi Subject: Free stuff! Come grab them! Hey folks, Been awhile since I offered something up. Tonight's offerings are: 1963 Topps #15, 41, 44 1964 Topps #40, 44, 48, 54, 74, 83, 135, 201, 324 Stengel 1965 Topps #23, 31, 32, 45, 63, 181, 185 1966 Topps #153 Carty 1967 Topps #24, 40, 50 Oliva, 65, 76, 81, 84, 87, 89, 94, 97, 98, 116, 131 Yankees Team, 196, 198, 209, 214, 265, 269, 270, 281 1968 Topps #12 (2), 18, 61, 62, 81, 93, 99 Colavito, 108, 127, 135, 174, 178, 203, 239, 276, 317 1968 Topps Game #1 (2), 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 22, 24, 25 1969 Topps Deckle #16 Howard (All low to mid-grade) LMK which ones you need and I'll get them to you ASAP! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:00:57 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Getting close... Hey guys, You know when you are coming to the end of a set and you can almost always predict what that last card you will need or maybe the last 2 (almost always one will be "The Mick")? The 52Bs are coming to the end and with reasonable certainty, I was sure the last 3 would all start with "M". Musial, Mantle, Mays. I just won a small lot of 6 that included Crosetti, which leaves me the "M" guys. Oh yeah, thanks to Ken, I also need the Werle variation with the W missing. I missed out on the Musial last week. I was working and didn't hear my ebay tone on my phone and I missed it :-(. Over the past few weeks I've missed out on Musial and Werle because of that. One guy has the two Werle versions for about 30 bucks. I'm almost tempted to pull the trigger on that but I don't need both, I would rather put those extra bucks to a Musial. Although, if I continue to not find any of the variation, I just Just a few short years ago I was at 92 cards. When I got to 75, I figured I had a shot. And as far as collecting continuing, there will always be a set to build. Actually, this set I might seek upgrades, as a few have paper loss or a chewed off corner. Just a regular ramble. I am so close I can taste it. And BTW, pet peeve time. If you have a reprint, it should NOT be in the same section as the regular card. Ever search for the Mantle? About 250 reprints come up with the real card. I tried using the wild cards, but I still get way too many results. Just my $1.25... ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 13:05:56 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Testing Servers... Ramblings aren't going thru ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 21:45:15 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Rob Bessette Subject: waiver wire Claim away, folks. Some real beaters in here, but also some real nice ones. Cards range from P/F to EX. Please include address in response. 1960 Topps 404, 479 1961 Topps 4, 121, 131, 134, 178, 179, 181, 182, 183, 184, 187, 192, 195, 216, 259, 275, 1962 Topps 6, 74 1964 Topps 16, 17, 18, 24, 31, 54, 68, 92, 121, 133, 142, 163, 170, 186 1965 Topps 1971 Topps 38, 129, 371 178, 186, 188, 192, 212, 231, 353, 372, 395 1989 Bowman 1954 Bowman Ted Williams reprint x2 ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:28:58 -0400 From: Shawn Smart Subject: 71 TOPPS WAIVER WIRE I recently snagged a 71 Topps Starter lot off of waivers from Andy Cook. After filling the holes in my wantlists and sending out a few packages to people I owed, there are about 200 or so left. I'd love to share the wealth. They are mostly from the early series in the set. There are too many totype out but I will give you an idea of whats there, and if you have needsfrom these areas, please point me to your 71 Topps lists. FYI - if you are condition sensitive these will not interest you. Also these are all commons, so if you are down to stars, they probably will not be here. 1-100 - 42 cards available. 100-199 - 49 cards available.200-299 - 47 cards available.300-399 - 26 cards available.400-499 - 17 cards available. 500-599 - 8 cards available.600 and up - 4 cards available. ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 13:15:22 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Pins and needles... Needles and pins... it's a happy man that grins... For some reason I STILL can't get the servers to send to me. I tried Mark's idea of going to digest and back to daily. This is ridiculous! All I'm getting is from the "thanks" server... The first person that actually gets through to me and can tell me where that quote is from will get a 1962 Rocky Colavito # 20. Why that card? Because I just stuck my finger in my dupes box and that's where it landed LOL... ================= To: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:24:52 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Followed searches on eBay issue? I haven't been able to add to my followed searches. I'm not over the limit. eBay doesn't seem to have any way of contacting them on the issue and their help info didn't address this. I've deleted cookies and browsing history, but it made no difference. Anyone else run into this problem? It worked fine until a few weeks ago. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:38:08 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? How many do you have specified, George? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? I haven=E2=99t been able to add to my followed searches. I=E2=99m notover the limit. eBay doesn=E2=99t seem to have any way of contacting them on the issue and their help info didn=E2=99t address this. I=E2=99ve deleted cookies and browsing history, but it made no difference. Anyone else run into this problem? It worked fine until a few weeks ago. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT) To: George Vrechek , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? I'm not sure what the limit is, but I have 72 followed searches. I recently(last week?) updated and added a few without any problems. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? I haven=E2=99t been able to add to my followed searches. I=E2=99m notover the limit. eBay doesn=E2=99t seem to have any way of contacting them on the issue and their help info didn=E2=99t address this. I=E2=99ve deleted cookies and browsing history, but it made no difference. Anyone else run into this problem? It worked fine until a few weeks ago. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 16:36:29 -0700 To: George Vrechek From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? I have problems with it too. I think they added more steps but sometimes itworks and other times it doesn't no matter what I do. I have a problem with getting the daily emails for the ones that don't work. They show up underthe saved searches and even say I'm signed up for emails. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:24 AM, "George Vrechek" wrote: > I haven=E2=99t been able to add to my followed searches. I=E2=99m not over the limit. eBay doesn=E2=99t seem to have any way of contacting them on the issue and their help info didn=E2=99t address this. I=E2=99ve deleted cookies and browsing history, but it made no difference. Anyone else run into this problem? It worked fine until a few weeks ago. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:36:10 -0700 To: Rick From: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? I don't know if this will help answer your question or not, George. I had been frustrated for quite some time with eBay and their practice if fixing what isn't broken. Anyway, I posted this on the PSA boards a few weeks ago. I am now able to rename existing searches and effectively change email preferences for those searches. I know that I am not the only one that has been extremely frustrated since eBay "wisely" decided to screw with what used to be called "Saved Searches". Now that they are called "Searches you follow", there apparently has beenno way to edit the title or parameters of an existing search. If you change the search parameters, you are forced to save an entirely new search and cannot give it a custom name. Here's how to get around that: 1) open your existing search in a new tab 2) at the end of the URL, type in &_jsoff1 and then enter 3) on the next page you should see the old "Save search" option. Click thatlink and enter your custom search title. This same method works for all new searches you want to give a custom name to. Again, just enter &_jsoff1 at the end of the URL. Now, another thing I have been having trouble with is turning off daily emails for some of my searches. For a long time, it would act as my setting had changed, but as soon as I refreshed my search page the changed searches would still show as "Receiving emails". Today I was getting a constant "unable to save email settings, please try again" popup. If you've been having trouble with the same thing, here's a workaround: 1) click "My eBay" at the top right of your page 2) click the "Account" tab (should be right under your eBay ID and feedbackscore) 3) click "Communication Preferences" (left side of screen) 4) under the "Buyer" section, click "Show" in the "Saved" area 5) you should see a long list of your Saved searches. If you no longer wantdaily emails, select "None". If you wish to start up daily emails, select "Real-time". 6) next, go to the bottom of your list of searches and click the "Save" button. If you don't, your preferences won't change. You should get a green check mark with the note "Your preferences were successfully saved." On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Rick wrote: > I have problems with it too. I think they added more steps but sometimes it works and other times it doesn't no matter what I do. I have a problem with getting the daily emails for the ones that don't work. They show up under the saved searches and even say I'm signed up for emails. > Sent from my iPad >> On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:24 AM, "George Vrechek" wrote: >> I haven=E2=99t been able to add to my followed searches. I=E2=99m not over the limit. eBay doesn=E2=99t seem to have any way of contactingthem on the issue and their help info didn=E2=99t address this. I=E2=99ve deleted cookies and browsing history, but it made no difference. Anyone else run into this problem? It worked fine until a few weeks ago. >> George Vrechek ================= Date: 30 Apr 2014 19:11:23 -0700 To: From: Subject: Toronto & travels ================= To: "'Geordie Calvert'" , Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:03:51 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? Thanks. I tried the fix but haven=E2=99t gotten any better results yet. At least I feel I am in good company. Now I realize I purchased at least two cards that I already had because the delete search didn=E2=99t take and I thought I still needed it. From: Geordie Calvert [mailto:dodgergeo@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:36 PM To: Rick Cc: George Vrechek; Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Followed searches on eBay issue? I don't know if this will help answer your question or not, George. I had been frustrated for quite some time with eBay and their practice if fixing what isn't broken. Anyway, I posted this on the PSA boards a few weeks ago. I am now able to rename existing searches and effectively change email preferences for those searches. I know that I am not the only one that has been extremely frustrated since eBay "wisely" decided to screw with what used to be called "Saved Searches". Now that they are called "Searches you follow", there apparently has beenno way to edit the title or parameters of an existing search. If you change the search parameters, you are forced to save an entirely new search and cannot give it a custom name. Here's how to get around that: 1) open your existing search in a new tab 2) at the end of the URL, type in &_jsoff1 and then enter 3) on the next page you should see the old "Save search" option. Click thatlink and enter your custom search title. This same method works for all new searches you want to give a custom name to. Again, just enter &_jsoff1 at the end of the URL. Now, another thing I have been having trouble with is turning off daily emails for some of my searches. For a long time, it would act as my setting had changed, but as soon as I refreshed my search page the changed searches would still show as "Receiving emails". Today I was getting a constant "unable to save email settings, please try again" popup. If you've been having trouble with the same thing, here's a workaround: 1) click "My eBay" at the top right of your page 2) click the "Account" tab (should be right under your eBay ID and feedbackscore) 3) click "Communication Preferences" (left side of screen) 4) under the "Buyer" section, click "Show" in the "Saved" area 5) you should see a long list of your Saved searches. If you no longer wantdaily emails, select "None". If you wish to start up daily emails, select "Real-time". 6) next, go to the bottom of your list of searches and click the "Save" button. If you don't, your preferences won't change. You should get a green check mark with the note "Your preferences were successfully saved." On Apr 30, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Rick wrote: I have problems with it too. I think they added more steps but sometimes itworks and other times it doesn't no matter what I do. I have a problem with getting the daily emails for the ones that don't work. They show up underthe saved searches and even say I'm signed up for emails. Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2014, at 11:24 AM, "George Vrechek" wrote: I haven=E2=99t been able to add to my followed searches. I=E2=99m notover the limit. eBay doesn=E2=99t seem to have any way of contacting them on the issue and their help info didn=E2=99t address this. I=E2=99ve deleted cookies and browsing history, but it made no difference. Anyone else run into this problem? It worked fine until a few weeks ago. George Vrechek ================= Date: 30 Apr 2014 20:45:45 -0700 To: From: Subject: 1966 TOPPS RUB-OFFS checklist