================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:43:34 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1970 Topps Starter available (680 cards) Finally getting a chance to look through the rest of these binders. Yes thesuper-big name cards are missing, but the rest are really nice overall with quite a few high numbers. I am looking to get rid of these as one group! Either as a sale or in trade. If you are interested, let me know. Here's the breakdown: 1970 Topps Starter Set (680/720 cards total, which includes 81 high numbers) Condition: 85-90% Near Mint (or better), 8-13% EXMT, 2% lesser Problem cards: 9 (checklist marked), 715 (Lolich, tape) Missing Cards: - 10, 140, 189, 197, 198, 200, 201, 211, 220, 279, 290, 300,350, 459, 500, 502, 530, 537, 553, 565, 566, 571, 578, 580, 588, 589, 600,601, 616, 628, 630, 631, 633, 660, 679, 681, 696, 700, 712, 713 Sale Price: $265 (which includes priority S&H, pages and binder) Condition Adjust Book Value (Trade value): $1000-$1300 - There's over $500 in CABV in the listed cards below, another $500 in the rest of the high numbers, leaving over another 500 "commons". All Team Cards and checklists are in the typical condition as the rest of the set and generally don't try to determine if cards are better than NM. The following are details of the listed cards. 1 - Mets TC VG 17 - Wilhelm NM 21 - Blue/Tenace RC NM 26 - McGraw NM 61 - NL Batting EXMT 62 - AL Batting EXMT 63 - NL RBI NM 64 - AL RBI EX 65 - NL HR NM 66 - AL HR NM 67 - NL ERA EXMT 68 - AL ERA NM 69 - NL Pitching NM 70 - AL Pitching EXMT 71 - NL K EXMT 72 - AL K NM 148 - Weaver NM 150 - Killebrew NM 160 - Niekro EXMT 166 - Oliver NM 170 - Williams NM 190 - Torre NM 195 - NL1 Seaver NM 196 - NL2 NM 199 - AL1 EX 202 - ALC NM 210 - Marichal NM 230 - Robinson EXMT 240 - Jenkins EXMT 242 - Alston EX 250 - McCovey EXMT 286 - Buckner RC NM 291 - Durocher NM 304 - Russell RC NM 305 - WS1 NM 306 - WS2 NM 307 - WS3 EXMT 308 - WS4 NM 309 - WS5 NM 310 - WSC NM 315 - Aparicio NM 330 - Brock NM 340 - Conigliaro EXMT 380 - Perez NM 394 - Hodges NM 400 - McClain NM 403 - Bunning NM 410 - Powell NM 425 - Bonds NM 440 - Mazeroski NM 449 - Palmer EXMT 450 - McCovey AS NM 451 - Powell AS NM 453 - Carew AS NM 454 - Santo AS NM 455 - Robinson AS NM 457 - Petrocelli AS NM 458 - Rose AS NM 461 - Yastrzemski AS NM 464 - Aaron AS NM 463 - Robinson AS NM 464 - Bench AS EXMT 466 - Marichal AS EXMT 470 - Stargell EXMT 491 - Nettles NM 510 - Oliva NM 539 - Bowa RC NM 555 - Cepeda EXMT 560 - Perry NM 593 - Cubs TC EXMT 595 - Wills EXMT 610 - Koosman NM 621 - Evans RC NM 622 - Sutton EXMT 634 - Harrelson NM 637 - Indians TC EX (due to centering) 640 - Kaline EXMT 645 - Money RC NM 650 - McDowell NM 654 - Gamble RC EXMT 657 - Padres TC EX (due to centering) 676 - Senators TC NM 680 - Petrocelli NM 683 - McRae RC NM 698 - Tresh NM 710 - Millan NM http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:58:55 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1953 Bowman complete reprint set available Anyone interested in a complete 1953 Bowman reprint set (160 cards)? The reprint cards are the standard size with the white borders that are a little wider than the originals, so the card images are reduced. Still a pretty decent reprint set. I already have one displayed in pages and ended up with an extra one to trade. Let me know if interested. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 11:07:30 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [DugoutTraders] 1953 Bowman complete reprint set available Correction. They are slightly narrower than the modern cards (around 2 3/8)but the height is the same (3 1/2). Sorry about that. To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; octraders@yahoogroups.com; From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:58:55 -0500 Subject: [DugoutTraders] 1953 Bowman complete reprint set available Anyone interested in a complete 1953 Bowman reprint set (160 cards)? The reprint cards are the standard size with the white borders that are a little wider than the originals, so the card images are reduced. Still a pretty decent reprint set. I already have one displayed in pages and ended up with an extra one to trade. Let me know if interested. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 11:19:13 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [VCT] 1970 Topps Starter available (680 cards) Wow! That was fast. These are already spoken for. Someone else asked what else I might have. As a heads up, I'll be working on 1959 Topps shortly. From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; octraders@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:43:34 -0500 Subject: [VCT] 1970 Topps Starter available (680 cards) Finally getting a chance to look through the rest of these binders. Yes thesuper-big name cards are missing, but the rest are really nice overall with quite a few high numbers. I am looking to get rid of these as one group! Either as a sale or in trade. If you are interested, let me know. Here's the breakdown: 1970 Topps Starter Set (680/720 cards total, which includes 81 high numbers) Condition: 85-90% Near Mint (or better), 8-13% EXMT, 2% lesser Problem cards: 9 (checklist marked), 715 (Lolich, tape) Missing Cards: - 10, 140, 189, 197, 198, 200, 201, 211, 220, 279, 290, 300,350, 459, 500, 502, 530, 537, 553, 565, 566, 571, 578, 580, 588, 589, 600,601, 616, 628, 630, 631, 633, 660, 679, 681, 696, 700, 712, 713 Sale Price: $265 (which includes priority S&H, pages and binder) Condition Adjust Book Value (Trade value): $1000-$1300 - There's over $500 in CABV in the listed cards below, another $500 in the rest of the high numbers, leaving over another 500 "commons". All Team Cards and checklists are in the typical condition as the rest of the set and generally don't try to determine if cards are better than NM. The following are details of the listed cards. 1 - Mets TC VG 17 - Wilhelm NM 21 - Blue/Tenace RC NM 26 - McGraw NM 61 - NL Batting EXMT 62 - AL Batting EXMT 63 - NL RBI NM 64 - AL RBI EX 65 - NL HR NM 66 - AL HR NM 67 - NL ERA EXMT 68 - AL ERA NM 69 - NL Pitching NM 70 - AL Pitching EXMT 71 - NL K EXMT 72 - AL K NM 148 - Weaver NM 150 - Killebrew NM 160 - Niekro EXMT 166 - Oliver NM 170 - Williams NM 190 - Torre NM 195 - NL1 Seaver NM 196 - NL2 NM 199 - AL1 EX 202 - ALC NM 210 - Marichal NM 230 - Robinson EXMT 240 - Jenkins EXMT 242 - Alston EX 250 - McCovey EXMT 286 - Buckner RC NM 291 - Durocher NM 304 - Russell RC NM 305 - WS1 NM 306 - WS2 NM 307 - WS3 EXMT 308 - WS4 NM 309 - WS5 NM 310 - WSC NM 315 - Aparicio NM 330 - Brock NM 340 - Conigliaro EXMT 380 - Perez NM 394 - Hodges NM 400 - McClain NM 403 - Bunning NM 410 - Powell NM 425 - Bonds NM 440 - Mazeroski NM 449 - Palmer EXMT 450 - McCovey AS NM 451 - Powell AS NM 453 - Carew AS NM 454 - Santo AS NM 455 - Robinson AS NM 457 - Petrocelli AS NM 458 - Rose AS NM 461 - Yastrzemski AS NM 464 - Aaron AS NM 463 - Robinson AS NM 464 - Bench AS EXMT 466 - Marichal AS EXMT 470 - Stargell EXMT 491 - Nettles NM 510 - Oliva NM 539 - Bowa RC NM 555 - Cepeda EXMT 560 - Perry NM 593 - Cubs TC EXMT 595 - Wills EXMT 610 - Koosman NM 621 - Evans RC NM 622 - Sutton EXMT 634 - Harrelson NM 637 - Indians TC EX (due to centering) 640 - Kaline EXMT 645 - Money RC NM 650 - McDowell NM 654 - Gamble RC EXMT 657 - Padres TC EX (due to centering) 676 - Senators TC NM 680 - Petrocelli NM 683 - McRae RC NM 698 - Tresh NM 710 - Millan NM http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 01:44:17 +0000 (UTC) To: , From: Subject: Thank you and an update OBC World, I will attempt to provide more detail on my thanks in an other email. I just wanted to let you all know that I am back home after being back in Vermont for half of 2014 so far. (new guys may not remember I started out as the first OBC Vermonter then moved to the Pacific NW...geez Jerry it was freezing there every day!! sorry I couldn't meet with you) My first two week trip in January was to help attend to my Mom who was diagnosed with lung and brain cancer. My second two week trip in February was to her hospice bedside and to lay her to rest as she passed away last week at age 77. I know its something we all have to go through, as life is very short and often full of surprises. I think my family is doing as well as can be , considering the circumstances. I returned to many, many cards...the baseball and condolence kind. I thank you ALL, as I am so happy to have my OBC family to share my life with, even though its down right now...we have had many things to cheer about as well. I will try to get the Super Bowl and other thanks typed up soon...NICE job guys! I truly mean it when I say, OBC Forever, Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 20:57:52 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1966 Philly FB starter set available ... well it's half past 4, I mean 8, and I'm shifting gears.... only a few binders left besides what I'm keeping, but this is the last starter for a while. Trade or sale as a lot only. If interested, let me know. 1966 Philadelphia Gum Football Starter Set (170/198 cards, 85% of the set) Missing Numbers: 19, 21, 24, 31, 32, 38, 39, 41, 53, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 69, 81, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 94, 114, 127, 170, 173, 194 (Yes, most of thestars, as typical) Condition: All EX or better except for the "Less than EX" listed below. 70%of the set. Even most of the lesser condition are nice looking cards, withmost problems being writing or staining on the backs (checklists marked). A few with creases but not many. Less than EX cards: 8, 9, 40, 44, 47, 51, 54, 66, 80, 82, 93, 96, 105, 128,131, 137, 139, 142, 147, 149, 152, 162, 174, 179, 180, 185, 187, 191, 192,195, 196, 197, 198 Sale Price: $70 (which includes priority S&H and pages, NO binder) Condition Adjust Book Value (Trade value): $200-300. I figured ONLY the listed stars in EX or better about $150 so still over 100 "commons" in EX or better condition. I gave no consideration on any cards less than EX. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 02:02:06 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: 1966T #561 Choo Choo Coleman - finishing soon OBC condition. Finishes at 8:33am PST. Currently sitting at $15.50. Tough card to get at a reasonable price! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Topps-Choo-Choo-Coleman-HIgh-561-Pen-Mark-on-Back-/181332370225?&_trksidp2056016.l4276 Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 09:54:12 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Weird waiver Fellas -- A buddy of mine ordered a book for me off Amazon, then a few days later he ordered a volume control for his home stereo system. Unfortunately, he forgot to change the address and it came to me. He didn't want to wait, so he ordered another one=E2=A6thus, I have a OSD Audio VMS-100 Slider Volume Control that I can't use. Anybody want it? Take Care, ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 17:28:26 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [DugoutTraders] 1966 Philly FB starter set available This one has been claimed as well. To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 20:57:52 -0500 Subject: [DugoutTraders] 1966 Philly FB starter set available ... well it's half past 4, I mean 8, and I'm shifting gears.... only a few binders left besides what I'm keeping, but this is the last starter for a while. Trade or sale as a lot only. If interested, let me know. 1966 Philadelphia Gum Football Starter Set (170/198 cards, 85% of the set) Missing Numbers: 19, 21, 24, 31, 32, 38, 39, 41, 53, 58, 59, 60, 61, 63, 69, 81, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 94, 114, 127, 170, 173, 194 (Yes, most of thestars, as typical) Condition: All EX or better except for the "Less than EX" listed below. 70%of the set. Even most of the lesser condition are nice looking cards, withmost problems being writing or staining on the backs (checklists marked). A few with creases but not many. Less than EX cards: 8, 9, 40, 44, 47, 51, 54, 66, 80, 82, 93, 96, 105, 128,131, 137, 139, 142, 147, 149, 152, 162, 174, 179, 180, 185, 187, 191, 192,195, 196, 197, 198 Sale Price: $70 (which includes priority S&H and pages, NO binder) Condition Adjust Book Value (Trade value): $200-300. I figured ONLY the listed stars in EX or better about $150 so still over 100 "commons" in EX or better condition. I gave no consideration on any cards less than EX. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: 02 Mar 2014 16:33:33 -0800 To: From: Subject: FOOT road trips? ================= To: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 19:51:13 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Super Bowl Pool I've just posted what is likely the end of my thanks for the super bowl pool winnings. 111 hits to 21 different sets! I didn't think I had 21 sets onmy wantlists! This has been such a blast, and the guys have been so generous! I may have to fix the thing again next year! :) This is just a great place! Go OBC! ================= Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 20:21:19 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Poll: which game set would you like to play? Hi all, I'm going to program a (free) playable version of a vintage Game Set and am taking votes for which it should be. Poll: Which Game Set Would You Play? That link evaluates five options and poll is on the sidebar. OBC seems the ideal audience, so appreciate any votes to push me in the "most wanted" ================= Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 20:05:52 -0600 To: "" From: TJ Valacak Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? Hi Mike, Thank you for thinking of me. Although I am now cancer free - the docs haven't given me clearance yet to make the big public appearances. My immune system is still in the toddler stages, and I am easily susceptible to viruses/bugs. Docs told me that nothing really changes for me right now. It's a long recovery process. I was really hoping to make it and catch up with the FOOT members, Gary andGeorge. I always look forward to the March and November shows. So, for now, I will eagerly wait for your show report. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:33 PM, wrote: > , MI > The spring card show season is about to kick off. Chicago Sun Times is the weekend of March 21-23. We have frequently tried to travel Friday nite, attend on Saturday, and head home straight from the show. > The following weekend, March 28-30 is the Strongsville show. While much smaller, we have been able to get through most of this show in 5 hours. Meet up Saturday morning at 9:00 at my house, pick up guys along the way (Canton & Perrysberg, OH) to be at the show around noon. Stay until 5 or 6, and then head back. Dinner on the way back, drop guys off, and return to my house by 10:00. > Unfortunate timing for me, as I have a meeting 5 minutes from Strongsville, on Thursday, March 20. I could have easily stayed over and worked in Cleveland on the 21st, and attended the show on Friday. Of course the following weekend when we are possibly going to Chicago, is the same weekend, I will be working all day Sunday at the food bank I volunteer at. The 30th isa special holiday packing and one of our 5 busiest days of the year. > Please let me know if you wish to join the road trip. For the non-FOOT OBCers, please let us know if you will be at either show. Might still be a bit early, due to not being able to be around crowds, but hoping TJ may make the Sun Times show. If not the show, any chance we could meet for dinner right after the show? Please note, that it is possible, FOOT may only do 1 of the 2 shows, due to them being only a week apart. Pocket books and/or significant others, may not allow 2 weekends in a row. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:36:47 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? ================= Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:37:51 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? ================= To: tvalacak@comcast.net, Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 03:58:17 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? ================= Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 23:20:16 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Available: Seattle 2014 pocket schedules Grabbed a handful of Mariners pocket schedules, now available for FCFS claiming. There's the combined SD/SEA spring training (no player), Seattle 2014 (Robinson Cano), and Seattle 2014 (Felix Hernandez). Let me know if you'd like one (+ address for fastest mailing)! ================= Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:58:16 -0500 (EST) To: cardclctor@aol.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? Content-Language: en flew in and out of cleveland hopkins this weekend, and the I-X Center is looking very inviting. with any luck, the snow that was covering the roof will be gone by the end of july, but the way things are going this year, that is not guaranteed! ken, will you be making the show this year? In a message dated 3/2/2014 9:58:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, cardclctor@aol.com writes: The OBC Swap Session at the National is 153 days away... give or take a day. Just sayin' ;-) Ken M Sent from my MetroPCS 4G Android device ------ Original message------ From: TJ Valacak Date: Sun, 3/2/2014 9:05 PM Subject:Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? Hi Mike, Thank you for thinking of me. Although I am now cancer free - the docs haven't given me clearance yet to make the big public appearances. My immune system is still in the toddler stages, and I am easily susceptible to viruses/bugs. Docs told me that nothing really changes for me right now. It's long recovery process. I was really hoping to make it and catch up with the FOOT members, Gary and George. I always look forward to the March and November shows. So, for now, I will eagerly wait for your show report. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:33 PM, <_mikesportsfan@aol.com_ (mailto:mikesportsfan@aol.com) > wrote: , MI The spring card show season is about to kick off. Chicago Sun Times is the weekend of March 21-23. We have frequently tried to travel Friday nite, attend on Saturday, and head home straight from the show. The following weekend, March 28-30 is the Strongsville show. While much smaller, we have been able to get through most of this show in 5 hours. Meet up Saturday morning at 9:00 at my house, pick up guys along the way (Canton & Perrysberg, OH) to be at the show around noon. Stay until 5 or 6, then head back. Dinner on the way back, drop guys off, and return to my house by 10:00. Unfortunate timing for me, as I have a meeting 5 minutes from Strongsville, on Thursday, March 20. I could have easily stayed over and worked Cleveland on the 21st, and attended the show on Friday. Of course the following weekend when we are possibly going to Chicago, is the s ame weekend, will be working all day Sunday at the food bank I volunteer at. The 30th is a special holiday packing and one of our 5 busiest days of the year. Please let me know if you wish to join the road trip. For the non-FOOT OBCers, please let us know if you will be at either show. Might still be a bit early, due to not being able to be around crowds, but hoping TJ may make the Sun Times show. If not the show, any chance we could meet for dinner right after the show? Please note, that it is possible, FOOT may only do 1 of the 2 shows, due to them being only a week apart. Pocket books and/or significant others, may not allow 2 weekends in a row. Mike Rich ================= To: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 17:50:28 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: National in Cleveland Someone recently mentioned the National in Cleveland for 2014. I'm hoping to attend, for a few days at least. Anyone have any suggestions on where to ================= Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:28:45 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Thanks Rick! Thanks out to Rick Lyons, for a pair of 61 stamps - including Tribesman Barry Latman - known, among other things, for carrying on a long correspondence with Ty Cobb. Much appreciated, Bill Malson ================= Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:42:57 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: Doug Smith Which OBC member keeps up with Doug Smiths want list? I have a single card I want to send him but don't have his address please. ================= To: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:45:43 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: RE: 2014 OBCAC elections results The 2014 OBCAC results are final and Tom Housley has accepted the position of Facilitator. Your 2014 OBCAC is listed below. Congratulations to the new committee and thanks to the 2013 incumbents. Good luck guys! =B7 Housley, Tom Voting Members =B7 Cook, Andy =B7 Donaldson, Bob =B7 Mead, Peter =B7 Rice, Don =B7 Stamper, John =B7 Talbot, Mark =B7 Tipton, Larry Non Voting Alternate =B7 Niessen, Rich This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= To: Smartalecx@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 08:16:27 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? ================= Date: 04 Mar 2014 08:39:34 -0800 To: From: Subject: Greetings on behalf of your new AC ================= Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 13:50:21 -0500 To: "cardclctor@aol.com" From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? I am a newbie to OBC still, and have not met any FOOT members yet, but I have a very large Detroit-centric collection, and live about 30-40 minutes from Strongsville. I would LOVE to host the FOOT group on either Friday or Saturday night after the show. I'll supply pizza, munchies and pop/beer. I have a large basement "man cave" that would look even better with a massive OBC swap meet in it. Any takers? Sam Taylor On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:16 AM, cardclctor@aol.com wrote: > The current plan has me attending. Getting the time off from work isn't a > problem. (I'm the senior guy with five weeks vacation, so I pretty much get > first picks.) The only thing that might stand in the way is a long drawn > out divorce court battle which would keep me local. (A long ramble for some > other time) Otherwise, expect me there with some weird looking hat, > Ken M > Sent from my MetroPCS 4G Android device > ------ Original message------ > *From: * > *Date: *Mon, 3/3/2014 2:58 PM > *To: *cardclctor@aol.com; > *Cc: *OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > *Subject:*Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? > flew in and out of cleveland hopkins this weekend, and the I-X Center is > looking very inviting. with any luck, the snow that was covering the roof > will be gone by the end of july, but the way things are going this year, > that is not guaranteed! > ken, will you be making the show this year? > gm > In a message dated 3/2/2014 9:58:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, > cardclctor@aol.com writes: > The OBC Swap Session at the National is 153 days away... give or take a > day. Just sayin' ;-) > Ken M > Sent from my MetroPCS 4G Android device > ------ Original message------ > *From: *TJ Valacak > *Date: *Sun, 3/2/2014 9:05 PM > *To: *; > *Cc: *; > *Subject:*Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? > Hi Mike, > Thank you for thinking of me. Although I am now cancer free - the docs > haven't given me clearance yet to make the big public appearances. My > immune system is still in the toddler stages, and I am easily susceptible > to viruses/bugs. Docs told me that nothing really changes for me right now. > It's a long recovery process. > I was really hoping to make it and catch up with the FOOT members, Gary > and George. I always look forward to the March and November shows. So, for > now, I will eagerly wait for your show report. > TJ > Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 2, 2014, at 6:33 PM, wrote: > , MI > The spring card show season is about to kick off. Chicago Sun Times is > the weekend of March 21-23. We have frequently tried to travel Friday > nite, attend on Saturday, and head home straight from the show. > The following weekend, March 28-30 is the Strongsville show. While much > smaller, we have been able to get through most of this show in 5 hours. > Meet up Saturday morning at 9:00 at my house, pick up guys along the way > (Canton & Perrysberg, OH) to be at the show around noon. Stay until 5 or > 6, and then head back. Dinner on the way back, drop guys off, and return > to my house by 10:00. > Unfortunate timing for me, as I have a meeting 5 minutes from > Strongsville, on Thursday, March 20. I could have easily stayed over and > worked in Cleveland on the 21st, and attended the show on Friday. Of > course the following weekend when we are possibly going to Chicago, is the > s ame weekend, I will be working all day Sunday at the food bank I > volunteer at. The 30th is a special holiday packing and one of our 5 > busiest days of the year. > Please let me know if you wish to join the road trip. For the non-FOOT > OBCers, please let us know if you will be at either show. Might still be a > bit early, due to not being able to be around crowds, but hoping TJ may > make the Sun Times show. If not the show, any chance we could meet for > dinner right after the show? Please note, that it is possible, FOOT may > only do 1 of the 2 shows, due to them being only a week apart. Pocket > books and/or significant others, may not allow 2 weekends in a row. > Mike Rich Sam Taylor ================= Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 10:53:00 -0800 (PST) To: "Samuel E. Taylor" , From: "glenncodere@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT road trips? Sounds great, Sam! Wish I could make it. Ex-pat FOOT. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ================= To: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 19:53:08 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: a poet amoung us! Along with some cards for my super bowl win, I got this little poem.... The pool was set, the numbers were posted I was feeling real good, to my wife I boasted "I got some great numbers and an extra square so my chances of winning are better than fair!" but my bubble go busted, it didn't take long to learn I was fool and that I had it all wrong quickly I learned I'd be another loser instead as I watched that ball sail over Peyton's head yes the Super Bowl is over, twas not a good game as Broncos walked away with heads hung in shame to the victors go the spoils is what we say but yet I am pleased to send these your way for I know this to be true, I kid not a bit there is nothing greater then a list I can hit! Not bad, huh? Go OBC! ================= Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 18:37:03 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Mike Mackie Subject: A Century Ago Today March 4, 1914 Ground is broken at Clark and Addison Streets in Chicago for a new ballparkcalled Weeghman Park. The facility is built to house Charles Weeghman'snew Federal League franchise called the Chicago Federals. The ground-breaking ceremony attracts over 2,000 people. Weeghman Park is built in just seven weeks to hold 14,000 and opens on April 23 with the Federals defeating the Kansas City Packers 9-1. The Federal League will disband in December 1915 and Weeghman will purchase a controlling interest in the Cubs for $500,000. They will begin playing at the site in 1916. The ballparkwill be know as Wrigley Field beginning in 1927 Ah... the joys of my daily ESPN desk calendar. Maybe the park's second century will see the home team win a World Series.... well ... there's always a chance. And pigs flying.. The Vegas line is even money, I hear. Mike Mackie ================= To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 06:57:44 -0500 (EST) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Available: Seattle 2014 pocket schedules Not worth the postage, but a few FOOT guys enjoy skeds, and we would be happy to grab some at the National. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden To: obc ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 11:20 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Available: Seattle 2014 pocket schedules Grabbed a handful of Mariners pocket schedules, now available for FCFS claiming. There's the combined SD/SEA spring training (no player), Seattle 2014(Robinson Cano), and Seattle 2014 (Felix Hernandez). Let me know if you'd like one (+ address for fastest mailing)! ================= Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 15:28:26 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings , From: Jake Elwell Subject: Waiver: FEAR STRIKES OUT by Jimmy Piersall - the book I just posted this comment on Ron Kaplan's Baseball Books Facebook site. Mykeeper copy of the book is a vintage mass-market edition with lurid cover art so my hardcover reading copy in Tipton condition is up for grabs FCFS. Holler if you want it and pls include your mailing address. Also, does anyone have the movie on DVD for me to borrow? I promise to return it, and quickly. Finally got around to FEAR STRIKES OUT by Jimmy Piersall having gone to evilBay for a vtg reading copy. The movie is something of a punchline in baseball circles (as is Jimmy himself I suppose) so I was surprised at how honest and thoughtful the book was. As a bonus it was fun to read about Red Sox players I only know from still images -- Ted Lepcio, Mickey McDermott, and the like. I suppose the book was primarily the work of the writer Al Hirshberg (superb) and largely sanitized but the fact that he discussed his mental illness at all, and so publicly to boot, in 1955 shows a lot of courage. ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 14:52:27 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1963 Post Baseball 1963 Post baseball available. Decent fronts, about half with no creases. Most cards are only about 1/32 to 1/16 off of the "official" size. Yes, they are Post cards, not Jello. :) The only problem is almost all have paper residue on the back from being glued onto something else (notebook, paper, binder?). Any interest in 1 or all, let me know. 1963 Post - 11 27 31 32 91 95 102 107 145 146 159 161 171 175 177 179 183 192 http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: 06 Mar 2014 12:43:26 -0800 To: From: Subject: Wildfire! ================= To: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 20:10:09 -0500 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Mailing to Canada HI all: I thought that I would make a comment/suggestion regarding mailingto Canada. It might even apply to mailing within the US. As many of you may know, it's very expensive to mail a package to Canada and vice-versa. What I do, is put 4 cards in a large semi-soft plastic guard and tape 2 of these end-to-end to make a relatively thin package of 8 cards and mail it in a regular envelope. I will put the rougher cards on the outside of each group. Often I will stack 2 or 3 of these together to mail 16 or 32 cards in one envelope. Sometimes I've sent 2 or these envelopes with much less cost than a package. Apparently a letter is much cheaper than apackage as long as it fits through the PO's thickness measuring slot. Anyone else have any other suggestions on how to reduce mailing costs?Gord ================= Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 16:43:39 -0500 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Don Rice Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] One of my Holy Grails--bagged via BIN..... I think you should leave EXCELLENT feedback for that unfortunate seller! :-) Congrats. Persistence pays off! On 3/7/2014 4:09 PM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net wrote: > Many of you know that I will continue to chase early 1960 Post and > Jello sets probably forever. I have even actually been thinking about > trying a nine-pocket collection of the 1962 Post set, which in my > opinion is the easiest of the six different post/jello sets (seven if > you consider 1961 box and company cards as different sets). > On the other hand--the toughest of the sets is the 1962 Jello set. I > am now down to 18 cards after picking up a Bobby Richardson #2 on > eBay. This is one of the toughest cards in the set; one that, I > frankly, never expected to see in my 62 joint binder of 62 Post, 62 > Post-Canadian and 62 Jellos side-by-side. I figure if the seller > listed this as a straight auction that the final hammer would have > been between $300-500. But he didn't--he listed it as a BIN and > mislabeled the card as a 62 Post. Check out the link: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/291092880333?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 > I practically miskeyed info when I saw it--as I could not believe my > luck and was trying to hit the BIN too fast. The card showed up > today--I was really afraid that someone was going to email the seller, > tell him what he had and offer him a whole lot more than what I paid > for it. > This falls into the it isn't too good to be true bucket..... > peter mead ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:11:06 -0500 From: Shawn Smart Subject: small world Funny story I thought would be appreciated by this group more than most. My friend was buying a bed in the mall, and she mentioned that the sales guy told her that he used to play in the bigs. Knowing I was a baseball nerdshe asked me if I had heard of him, and I said actually yes. She said shewas going back, and asked if I wanted a signature. I said of course - and pulled his card from my 75 Topps set. And the cool thing about grabbinga 75 Topps, is that it already had a signature on it, so I would know if this was bs! But she came back and the signature was a spot on match. Don Demola was nice enough to sign my card for me, and works 5 minutes frommy house. He pitched in 85 games with the Expos in the mid 70's. He heldMike Schmidt, Pete Rose, Dave Concepcion, Johnny Bench, Joe Morgan, Billy Williams and Willie Stargell all hitless in his career. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/demoldo01.shtml Small world. Maybe I'll stop in and talk baseball with him one day when sales are slow :)=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:43:45 -0500 To: mark zentkovich From: Shawn Smart Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] hello, my name is mark...and I am addicted to... ================= Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 18:06:35 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] One of my Holy Grails--bagged via BIN..... Content-Language: en speaking of weird occurrences, i had bought a pair of cincy red 61 posts on ebay in November after i found that i was missing a whole 9 pocket page full of them. frank robby and roy mcmillan - 2 of the more difficult onesto get at a reasonable price,,, and i was happy to find them as luck would have it, they never arrived. tracking showed that they made it to aurora colorado on November 23, and disappeared. waited until XMas, figured they were gone, and picked up replacements, in worse condition and higher prices on ebay in january. of course, you can guess that the puffy, in pristine condition, and postmarked 11/23/13 showed up today. all i can guess is that it was markeddo not bend, someone/thing moved it into a different pile, and it got lost. anyway, got dupes now that upgraded my set, so all's well than ends well. of course i am out some cash. water everywhere as chicago starts to melt! have a good weekend! In a message dated 3/7/2014 3:09:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, hoot_owl1@verizon.net writes: Many of you know that I will continue to chase early 1960 Post and Jello sets probably forever. I have even actually been thinking about trying a nine-pocket collection of the 1962 Post set, which in my opinion is the easiest of the six different post/jello sets (seven if you consider 1961 box company cards as different sets). On the other hand--the toughest of the sets is the 1962 Jello set. I am now down to 18 cards after picking up a Bobby Richardson #2 on eBay. Thisis one of the toughest cards in the set; one that, I frankly, never expected to see in my 62 joint binder of 62 Post, 62 Post-Canadian and 62 Jellos side-by-side. I figure if the seller listed this as a straight auction that the final hammer would have been between $300-500. But he didn't--he listed it as a BIN and mislabeled the card as a 62 Post. Check out the l ink: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291092880333?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksidp3984. I practically miskeyed info when I saw it--as I could not believe my luck and was trying to hit the BIN too fast. The card showed up today--I was really afraid that someone was going to email the seller, tell him what he had and offer him a whole lot more than what I paid for it. This falls into the it isn't too good to be true bucket..... peter mead Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:57:06 -0500 (EST) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] One of my Holy Grails--bagged via BIN..... Unbelievable. "Too good to be true", is an understatement. It pays to digand shows there are still bargains to be had from time to time. -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1 To: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Mar 7, 2014 4:09 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] One of my Holy Grails--bagged via BIN..... Many of you know that I will continue to chase early 1960 Post and Jello sets probably forever. I have even actually been thinking about trying a nine-pocket collection of the 1962 Post set, which in my opinion is the easiest of the six different post/jello sets (seven if you consider 1961 box andcompany cards as different sets). On the other hand--the toughest of the sets is the 1962 Jello set. I am now down to 18 cards after picking up a Bobby Richardson #2 on eBay. This isone of the toughest cards in the set; one that, I frankly, never expected to see in my 62 joint binder of 62 Post, 62 Post-Canadian and 62 Jellos side-by-side. I figure if the seller listed this as a straight auction that the final hammer would have been between $300-500. But he didn't--he listedit as a BIN and mislabeled the card as a 62 Post. Check out the l ink: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291092880333?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1497.l2649 I practically miskeyed info when I saw it--as I could not believe my luck and was trying to hit the BIN too fast. The card showed up today--I was really afraid that someone was going to email the seller, tell him what he hadand offer him a whole lot more than what I paid for it. This falls into the it isn't too good to be true bucket..... peter mead ================= To: "octraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 10:38:06 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1965 Topps starter set available This is the last of the Topps baseball binders (not counting the 1979 starter, which is still available). No major stars here but over 1/2 the set with about 40% of the high numbers and quite a few Short Prints. Preference to anyone wanting the entire group! If interested, let me know. 1965 Topps Starter Set - 314 cards total (includes 90 high numbers) Condition: average EX, mostly VGEX to EX+ range. The high numbers average alittle nicer than the low numbers. Sale Price: $230 (which includes priority S&H, the pages and binder) Adjust Book Value (Trade value): $500-$600 - There's almost $500 in CABV for just the high numbers and listed cards below, not counting about 170 additional commons (1-370). Many of the non-common cards are listed below with approximate condition. Should give you an idea of the overall condition. 1 - AL Batting EX 6 - NL RBI EXMT 7 - AL ERA VGEX 8 - AL Pitching VGEX 10 - NL Pitching NM 11 - AL ERA EXMT 20 - Bunning EX 30 - Bouton NM 40 - Howard EX 50 - Marichal EX 62 - Kaat NM 70 - Skowron EXMT 74 - Petrocelli RC NM 76 - McDowell NM 82 - Alomar RC EXMT 95 - Mazeroski GD 99 - Hodges NM 100 - Boyer EXMT 115 - Richardson EXMT 132 - WS1 VGEX 133 - WS2 GD 135 - WS4 VG 136 - WS5 VG 137 - WS6 EXMT 153 - Cash GD 172 - Piersall EXMT 190 - White EXMT 208 - John EX 217 - Alston NM 220 - Williams EXMT 259 - Northrup RC EX 275 - Groat VGEX 297 - DeBusschere VG 355 - Pinson EXMT 361 - checklist VGEX (unmarked) 409 - Dierker RC VGEX 414 - Lopez EX 484 - Perranoski EXMT 545 - Alou EX (SP) 549 - Beckert EX (SP) 572 - Orioles TC VGEX (SP) 598 - Downing EXMT (SP) Team Cards - 24 91 151 173 234 293 316 338 379 403 426 SP High numbers - 523 524 527 529 535 543 547 559 568 579 582 589 591 596 http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: "octraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 10:57:59 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [VCT] 1965 Topps starter set available Wow! Already claimed! From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com To: octraders@yahoogroups.com; dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 10:38:06 -0500 Subject: [VCT] 1965 Topps starter set available This is the last of the Topps baseball binders (not counting the 1979 starter, which is still available). No major stars here but over 1/2 the set with about 40% of the high numbers and quite a few Short Prints. Preference to anyone wanting the entire group! If interested, let me know. 1965 Topps Starter Set - 314 cards total (includes 90 high numbers) Condition: average EX, mostly VGEX to EX+ range. The high numbers average alittle nicer than the low numbers. Sale Price: $230 (which includes priority S&H, the pages and binder) Adjust Book Value (Trade value): $500-$600 - There's almost $500 in CABV for just the high numbers and listed cards below, not counting about 170 additional commons (1-370). Many of the non-common cards are listed below with approximate condition. Should give you an idea of the overall condition. 1 - AL Batting EX 6 - NL RBI EXMT 7 - AL ERA VGEX 8 - AL Pitching VGEX 10 - NL Pitching NM 11 - AL ERA EXMT 20 - Bunning EX 30 - Bouton NM 40 - Howard EX 50 - Marichal EX 62 - Kaat NM 70 - Skowron EXMT 74 - Petrocelli RC NM 76 - McDowell NM 82 - Alomar RC EXMT 95 - Mazeroski GD 99 - Hodges NM 100 - Boyer EXMT 115 - Richardson EXMT 132 - WS1 VGEX 133 - WS2 GD 135 - WS4 VG 136 - WS5 VG 137 - WS6 EXMT 153 - Cash GD 172 - Piersall EXMT 190 - White EXMT 208 - John EX 217 - Alston NM 220 - Williams EXMT 259 - Northrup RC EX 275 - Groat VGEX 297 - DeBusschere VG 355 - Pinson EXMT 361 - checklist VGEX (unmarked) 409 - Dierker RC VGEX 414 - Lopez EX 484 - Perranoski EXMT 545 - Alou EX (SP) 549 - Beckert EX (SP) 572 - Orioles TC VGEX (SP) 598 - Downing EXMT (SP) Team Cards - 24 91 151 173 234 293 316 338 379 403 426 SP High numbers - 523 524 527 529 535 543 547 559 568 579 582 589 591 596 http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: 08 Mar 2014 08:42:06 -0800 To: From: Subject: baseball card shops ================= Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 19:02:14 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Andy Subject: Philly show How was the show? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 18:39:29 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Who Collects What Fellas -- I was just looking to unload a few cards, so I was using the "Who Collects What" feature of our website. I don't know how many guys are unsure of it's existence, but I'll tell you I use it all the time when I send out cards. If you're not on there, I'm probably not looking at your list. I'mnot sure how many other guys use it, but I thought I'd point it out. Also, I noticed a few that were a bit out of date...so do us a favor, when you complete a set, delete it from the WCW, and if you add one, go in and addit to WCW. Take Care, ================= To: "'Geno Wagner'" , Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 19:53:05 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What Amen, Geno, also use it all the time to look for victims of a RAOK. As you say, best to keep it as up to date as possible. I'm sure I speak for Geno here, if anyone wants help with it, feel free to drop either one of us a From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geno Wagner Sent: March-08-14 6:39 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What Fellas -- I was just looking to unload a few cards, so I was using the "Who Collects What" feature of our website. I don't know how many guys are unsure of it's existence, but I'll tell you I use it all the time when I send out cards. If you're not on there, I'm probably not looking at your list. I'm not sure how many other guys use it, but I thought I'd point it out. Also, I noticed a few that were a bit out of date...so do us a favor, when you complete a set, delete it from the WCW, and if you add one, go in and add it to WCW. Take Care, No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7169 - Release Date: 03/08/14 ================= To: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:47:25 +0000 From: Subject: Fwd: Waivers Subject: Waivers Hello all, Picked a few off grade cards up for the group thanks to uncle Dick a Obc friendly 1960 topps #13,183 1959 topps #170,246 1958 topps #18,313,317,329,380,409,413 1962 topps #21,33,42,341,415 1963 topps #23,24,32,41,43,79,86,133,158,191 1965 topps#87,225,231,278,285 1964 topps#33,28,45,49,54,83,92,105,112,113,118,140,151,191,193,211,236,305,338,341 And provide address to make it easy for me Anthony arbeeny Sent from my iPad The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 11:49:19 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Philly show report Ant Arbeeny was kind enough to drive us up to the Philly show yesterday. To start off, Ant hands off 3 early 70's basketball cards including Bill Bradley, as well as three posts...Kubek, Santo and Mudcat. Always good to spend time with OBC'ers...hopefully we'll see some more next time. My impression from the show was that it was missing a few of the regular dealers...and seemed like very few OBC'ers as well. I did pick up some pretty good items though. The OBC highlight has to be 3 1914 cracker jacks for $5...including a couple mid highs, which are nearly impossible. They are very trimmed of course, but knocking some CJ's off of the list for under is pretty great. Other highlights included a couple of E106's, 4 1941 double plays, a couple 38G's, a bunch of hostess hits, e92 Jennings, M116 of O'Hara, and 3 hits to the short B18 Blanket list. ================= To: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 16:00:17 +0000 From: Subject: ] Fwd: Waivers revised Revised after some activity Subject: Waivers Hello all, Picked a few off grade cards up for the group thanks to uncle Dick a Obc friendly 1960 topps #13,183 1959 topps #170 1958 topps #18,317,380,409,413 1962 topps #42,341 1963 topps #23,24,32,41,43,79,86,191 1965 topps#87,231,285 1964 topps#33,28,49,54,92,105,112,140,151,191,193,211,236,305,338,341 And provide address to make it easy for me Anthony arbeeny Sent from my iPad The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:20:06 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What VERY helpful for the newbies. I had a lot of sets listed that "I collect" but didn't realize that the database was used by guys who are looking to send cards. I'm guessing that more than a few guys have used that WCW page and then looked at my list and got frustrated. Sorry, but when I started, and set up my "profile" page, it was more of a "getting to know you" type of biography, and I treated the WCW part of it the same. I have deleted those sets now. I can see where this system is WAY better than what I was doing, and just randomly looking through guys lists until I found something that I had. Always good to have a refresher course now and again... Sam Taylor On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Grant Rainsley wrote: > Amen, Geno, also use it all the time to look for victims of a RAOK. As you > say, best to keep it as up to date as possible. I'm sure I speak for Geno > here, if anyone wants help with it, feel free to drop either one of us a > line. > Grant > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Geno Wagner > *Sent:* March-08-14 6:39 PM > *To:* OBC Ramblings > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What > Fellas -- > I was just looking to unload a few cards, so I was using the "Who Collects > What" feature of our website. I don't know how many guys are unsure of > it's existence, but I'll tell you I use it all the time when I send out > cards. If you're not on there, I'm probably not looking at your list. I'm > not sure how many other guys use it, but I thought I'd point it out. Also, > I noticed a few that were a bit out of date...so do us a favor, when you > complete a set, delete it from the WCW, and if you add one, go in and add > it to WCW. > Take Care, > Geno > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3722/7169 - Release Date: 03/08/14 Sam Taylor ================= Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: 1970 starter lot Fellas -- I don't know how many of you are on N54, but I posted an auction over therefor 150 1970 Topps cards. You can only bid with a single card, no money. If you need a bunch of 1970 cards, check it out: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t184556 I thought it would be fun to see what people bid. I think you may have to register to see the Buy/Sell/Trade threads, but it's free and it's worth it to read through some of them=E2=A6especially for older cards. Take Care, ================= Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 11:49:00 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: MarkZ Subject: Re: Who Collects What I agree that this is a challenge for our group. I recently checked for 73 and 75 baseball and more folks did not have thoseon their list at all than did. I thought about emailing them but decided not to. Mark Zentkovich Sent from mark z ipod ================= Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:58:48 +0000 (UTC) To: , From: Subject: Wttf or wtb 1957 Topps FB Raymond Berry I thought i had one of these, and I offered to help a local collector trying to fill his 57 FB set, but I cannot find it...or I kept bad records. Both are rather like my collecting habits... Can anyone help (not eBay thank you, I am tired of that venue!), i will trade or buy from you if we can strike a deal! OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ================= Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 14:43:50 -0400 (EDT) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: i may live to regret this, but .... as i am down to variations and near impossibles, and trading has slowed to a trickle, i have decided after much internal debate to follow some of my fellow crazies and split my previously completed 1963 post/jello combination baseball set into two separate sets. i have a pretty good start on the jellos with a lot of HOFers, which could make the post set more difficult to in any case, i am taking the plunge. if it turns out to be a miserable failure, i will probably start trading off one set to complete the other. interesting to look in the SCD and see the wild value differences in some player's cards (complete set NM Jello $6,000, Post $3,300). i have some of these to trade including 61 and 62 posts, but thousands of other topps and bowman vintage available, so please let me know what you may have to help. please email me before sending as i would like to minimize dupes if at all possible. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB 1963 POST WANT LIST 4, 5, 14, 15, 16, 26, 30, 36, 37, 39, 41, 51, 53, 60, 70, 86, 87, 99 106, 108, 116, 119, 121, 129, 138, 139, 140, 151, 152, 155, 162, 171, 179*, 183*, 186, 187, 196 1963 JELLO HAVE LIST have have have !!!! (need the rest) 4, 5, 14, 15, 16, 26, 30, 36, 37, 39, 41, 51, 53, 60, 70, 86, 87, 88, 99 106, 108, 116, 119, 121, 129, 138, 139, 140, 151, 152, 155, 162, 171, 179, 183, 186, 187, 196 ================= To: Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:50:45 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: 1958 topps variation? Hi all Going through Friday's pick-up at the philly show and came across a strange card I didn't see list in the SCD or in a quick google search or on our library. It is a 1958 topps on the front is Early Wynn - supposed to be #100, right? But the back is miscut and you cant read any number left or right side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil (card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed - up-side down relative to how the other 58's I have are printed. And no, 2 cards are not just stuck together. Is this a known variation? ================= To: yudts5@verizon.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 19:26:52 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? It is a wrong back and/or a proof card. Wrong and blank back cards areknown to exist, for tons of cards. Before issuing a series or a set, Topps ran "proofs" to check the plates and set up. Many proofs have different backs than the fronts. There are also cards missing 1 or more of the colors on a card. Many of us enjoy these oddities (Richard Dingman and myself especially), but it is not a variation. Lynn Miller and I had a phone call about wrong backs just last week. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matt Yudt To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 6:49 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1958 topps variation? Hi all Going through Friday=E2=99s pick-up at the philly show andcame across a strange card I didn=E2=99t see list in the SCD or in a quickgoogle search or on our library. It is a 1958 topps on the front is EarlyWynn - supposed to be #100, right? But the back is miscut and you cantread any number left or right side, BUT the player described is Ossie Virgil(card #107), Even more, the printing on the back is reversed -up-side down relative to how the other 58=E2=99s I have are printed. Andno, 2 cards are not just stuck together. Is this a known variation? ================= To: smartalecx@aol.com, dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 20:03:16 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] i may live to regret this, but .... You still need to add the 1962 Jell-O and 1962 Post Canadian to fully immerse yourself in this quest. The 63 Post is much easier to complete thanthe Jell-O. Personally, I still need 6 of the Post (you have 2 of them) and 27 of the Jell-Os, to finish off the 63s. Peter Mead is the closest on these.. To help get you moving on your quest, I will be sending along the 1963 Post #106 Mays and 1963 Jell-O: 28 54 66 67 143 Clemente 147 148 180 188. Fortunately, even I fyou cannot hit my Post/Jell-O lists, you have tons ofCoke caps, I still need. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx To: dugouttraders ; OBC-Ramblings ; OBC-Wantlist ; OCTraders ; Tradingbases Sent: Sun, Mar 9, 2014 2:43 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] i may live to regret this, but .... as i am down to variations and near impossibles, and trading has slowed to a trickle, i have decided after much internal debate to follow some of my fellow crazies and split my previously completed 1963 post/jello combinationbaseball set into two separate sets. i have a pretty good start on the jellos with a lot of HOFers, which could make the post set more difficult to complete. in any case, i am taking the plunge. if it turns out to be a miserable failure, i will probably start trading off one set to complete the other. interesting to look in the SCD and see the wild value differences in some player's cards (complete set NM Jello $6,000, Post $3,300). i have some of these to trade including 61 and 62 posts, but thousands of other topps and bowman vintage available, so please let me know what you mayhave to help. please email me before sending as i would like to minimize dupes if at all possible. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB 1963 POST WANT LIST 4, 5, 14, 15, 16, 26, 30, 36, 37, 39, 41, 51, 53, 60, 70, 86, 87, 99 106, 108, 116, 119, 121, 129, 138, 139, 140, 151, 152, 155, 162, 171, 179*,183*, 186, 187, 196 1963 JELLO HAVE LIST have have have !!!! (need the rest) 4, 5, 14, 15, 16, 26, 30, 36, 37, 39, 41, 51, 53, 60, 70, 86, 87, 88, 99 106, 108, 116, 119, 121, 129, 138, 139, 140, 151, 152, 155, 162, 171, 179, 183, 186, 187, 196 ================= Date: 09 Mar 2014 18:38:57 -0700 To: From: Subject: FOOT show schedule ================= Date: 09 Mar 2014 20:31:03 -0700 To: From: Subject: thinking about HOSTESS ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:04:34 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: FOOT show schedule I plan to be at the Chicago Show Saturday 3/22. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 08:14:45 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: thinking about HOSTESS Advice to " uthminsta1" ? I also started collecting Hostess cards a few years ago thinking it would be doable. The earlier years seem to be more plentiful than the later years, especially 1979. I don't think any of the cards in sets are scarcer than any others although I still need about 15 cards after several years. The star cards don't seem terribly expensive. I don't think I've paid more than $5 for anything. The biggest factor I see with hindsight is whether to collect singles, panels, both, or either. I opted for either so I have some nice looking panels and some chopped up singles. It is hard to put them in one place. I bought starter sets from JD Heckathorn at a Chicago show but haven't found too many dealers with any quantity brought to shows. The Hostess sets turned out to be much harder than expected. I received only a few cards through OBCers. I had a few extras but they went to Mac Wubben and a few others when they started on these sets. It is always a head-scratcher as to what to collect next, trying to find sets that are "doable." Try T218s; they are fun and not much harder to complete than Hostess sets. George Vrechek ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:45:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS I dont really collect hostess other than the Phillies but in looking for those, I can tell you that some of the 1979s are extremely tough. I have not seen a Bowa in a long time and i last time i saw one it went for $25...I think there are some others in 1979 that are tough as well. Nothing scientific but there it is... -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:14 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS Advice to =E2=9Cuthminsta1=E2=9D ? I also started collecting Hostess cards a few years ago thinking it would be doable. The earlier years seem to be more plentiful than the later years,especially 1979. I don=E2=99t think any of the cards in sets are scarcer than any others although I still need about 15 cards after several years.The star cards don=E2=99t seem terribly expensive. I don=E2=99t think I=E2=99ve paid more than $5 for anything. The biggest factor I see with hindsight is whether to collect singles, panels, b oth, or either. I opted for either so I have some nice looking panelsand some chopped up singles. It is hard to put them in one place. I boughtstarter sets from JD Heckathorn at a Chicago show but haven=E2=99t found too many dealers with any quantity brought to shows. The Hostess sets turned out to be much harder than expected. I received only a few cards through OBCers. I had a few extras but they went to Mac Wubben and a few others when they started on these sets. It is always a head-scratcher as to what to collect next, trying to find sets that are =E2=9Cdoable.=E2=9D Try T218s; they are fun and not much harder to complete than Hostess sets. George Vrechek ================= To: , , Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:53:52 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS Waiting for Andy to chime in, as he studied it once. There are a lot of short prints in the set...tough to find, but rarely expensive. I got about 15 of the last 20 or so that I needed in 78 &79 over the weekend for about 40 cents ea for the commons at $1-2 for stars. My prices have been warped by pre-war, but seemed like a good deal for some tough to find cards. To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:45:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS I dont really collect hostess other than the Phillies but in looking for those, I can tell you that some of the 1979s are extremely tough. I have not seen a Bowa in a long time and i last time i saw one it went for $25...I think there are some others in 1979 that are tough as well. Nothing scientific but there it is... -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Mar 10, 2014 6:14 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS Advice to =93uthminsta1=94 ? I also started collecting Hostess cards a few years ago thinking it would be doable. The earlier years seem to be more plentiful than the later years,especially 1979. I don=92t think any of the cards in sets are scarcer thanany others although I still need about 15 cards after several years. The star cards don=92t seem terribly expensive. I don=92t think I=92ve paid morethan $5 for anything. The biggest factor I see with hindsight is whether to collect singles, panels, oth, or either. I opted for either so I have some nice looking panels and some chopped up singles. It is hard to put them in one place. I bought starter sets from JD Heckathorn at a Chicago show but haven=92t found too many dealers with any quantity brought to shows. The Hostess sets turned out to be much harder than expected. I received only a few cards through OBCers. Ihad a few extras but they went to Mac Wubben and a few others when they started on these sets. It is always a head-scratcher as to what to collect next, trying to find sets that are =93doable.=94 Try T218s; they are fun and not much harder to complete than Hostess sets. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:54:44 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Lost and found As shown below, Joel Glickman gave me some OBC Vegas pins at the end of the Chicago '11 National. Somehow I lost them. I've been searching for them for 2 1/2 years but I stumbled upon them today while looking for something else. I cannot believe this!! I have about a dozen pins to distribute. Priority goes to whoever was at the Chicago National in 2011 but did not get one from George. Steve Rittenberg On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Steve Rittenberg wrote: > All, > Joel Glickman gave me some OBC Vegas pins when I saw him at the > National on Sunday. I can't find them anywhere in my stuff. Did I > pass them along to you because you will actually send them out? I've > looked everywhere among my stuff and only today came up with the idea > that someone else has them. I also misplaced my wantlist on Sunday. > That's an inconvenience but I'll survive. Perhaps I need to add "If > found, please return to Steve Rittenberg @ 256-585-4329" at the top of > each page. Hahaha > Steve ================= Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 12:06:22 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Andy Subject: Re: thinking about HOSTESS In the 1975 Hostess set the three most difficult cards by far are those on the panel which includes Reggie Jackson. About a dozen years ago I compared the wantlists of all OBCers who were then working on the set. Some lists were long, while others short, but everyone needed those three cards. Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:19:51 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS I love the Hostess sets and have since I was a kid. You can buy big lots of them on ebay fairly cheap. If you are starting any of the years let me know and I could send you a starter set as I've quite a few doubles. Bob Donaldson From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Vrechek Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:15 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thinking about HOSTESS Advice to " uthminsta1" ? I also started collecting Hostess cards a few years ago thinking it would be doable. The earlier years seem to be more plentiful than the later years, especially 1979. I don't think any of the cards in sets are scarcer than any others although I still need about 15 cards after several years. The star cards don't seem terribly expensive. I don't think I've paid more than $5 for anything. The biggest factor I see with hindsight is whether to collect singles, panels, both, or either. I opted for either so I have some nice looking panels and some chopped up singles. It is hard to put them in one place. I bought starter sets from JD Heckathorn at a Chicago show but haven't found too many dealers with any quantity brought to shows. The Hostess sets turned out to be much harder than expected. I received only a few cards through OBCers. I had a few extras but they went to Mac Wubben and a few others when they started on these sets. It is always a head-scratcher as to what to collect next, trying to find sets that are "doable." Try T218s; they are fun and not much harder to complete than Hostess sets. George Vrechek No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3722/7171 - Release Date: 03/09/14 ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:04:45 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: San Francisco Will be spending some time in San Francisco in March/April for work. Any recommended card shops in town? Or anything else? ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:39:01 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Tennesse trip I'll be in Gatlinburg Tennesse for a week from Sun. April 20 to Fri. April 25 for a major Bridge Tournament. Is anyone one close enough to meet up? Gord ================= Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:58:40 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: 66 topps ##591 JOHN O'DONOGHUE trying to find out if this card is an SP? thanks for any info John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:23:07 -0700 To: John Dahms From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 topps ##591 JOHN O'DONOGHUE 591 is but, unless I'm mistaken, that is the devilish Grant Jackson RC--notJohn Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:58 PM, John Dahms wrote: > trying to find out if this card is an SP? > thanks for any info > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:33:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Edward Watts From: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 topps ##591 JOHN O'DONOGHUE thanks to all for the response. ebay dudehad a typocard was listed as #591 was really #501 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ From: Edward Watts To: John Dahms Cc: OBC ramblings Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 66 topps ##591 JOHN O'DONOGHUE 591 is but, unless I'm mistaken, that is the devilish Grant Jackson RC--notJohn Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:58 PM, John Dahms wrote: >trying to find out if this card is an SP? >thanks for any info >John Dahms >3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 >Jackson, MI >I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. >http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:28:15 -0500 To: Geno Wagner , From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What Well, this post tweaked my interest a little. I've never used WCW, generally preferring to go to the directory and just start clicking on names and checking their lists. I checked out the site not even knowing if my name would be in there and if it was, surely there would be some sets I had completed. I was and there were. There was even a set, (1972 Topps), Chris Hackman finished for me in 1996. Needless to say, awkward. Now I am eager to fix this slight oversight, just need someone to tell me how. I don't see tools on the page. Greg (yaz) On 3/8/2014 8:39 PM, Geno Wagner wrote: > Fellas -- > I was just looking to unload a few cards, so I was using the "Who > Collects What" feature of our website. I don't know how many guys are > unsure of it's existence, but I'll tell you I use it all the time when > I send out cards. If you're not on there, I'm probably not looking at > your list. I'm not sure how many other guys use it, but I thought I'd > point it out. Also, I noticed a few that were a bit out of date...so > do us a favor, when you complete a set, delete it from the WCW, and if > you add one, go in and add it to WCW. > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:11:55 -0500 To: Geno Wagner , From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What I've done it. Thanks to all. For those keeping score, I deleted 6 sets and added 1. Greg (yaz) On 3/11/2014 4:28 PM, Yaz wrote: > Well, this post tweaked my interest a little. I've never used WCW, > generally preferring to go to the directory and just start clicking on > names and checking their lists. I checked out the site not even > knowing if my name would be in there and if it was, surely there would > be some sets I had completed. I was and there were. There was even a > set, (1972 Topps), Chris Hackman finished for me in 1996. Needless to > say, awkward. Now I am eager to fix this slight oversight, just need > someone to tell me how. I don't see tools on the page. > Greg (yaz) > On 3/8/2014 8:39 PM, Geno Wagner wrote: >> Fellas -- >> I was just looking to unload a few cards, so I was using the "Who >> Collects What" feature of our website. I don't know how many guys >> are unsure of it's existence, but I'll tell you I use it all the time >> when I send out cards. If you're not on there, I'm probably not >> looking at your list. I'm not sure how many other guys use it, but I >> thought I'd point it out. Also, I noticed a few that were a bit out >> of date...so do us a favor, when you complete a set, delete it from >> the WCW, and if you add one, go in and add it to WCW. >> Take Care, >> Geno ================= To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:15:41 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Vegas and Az Ill be in Vegas this thursday-sat, then down to az on Sunday and Monday forspring training. Anybody up for a meeting? ================= Date: 11 Mar 2014 20:18:03 -0700 To: From: Subject: who collects what ================= Date: 11 Mar 2014 20:28:22 -0700 To: From: Subject: who collects what ================= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:08:01 -0700 (PDT) To: "rlabs1@yahoo.com" , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what Go to the Directory, and click on "update your address or collecting goals." Then go to "update profile" and check the correct boxes. Take Care, > From: "rlabs1@yahoo.com" >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:28 PM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what >How would I add or delete sets from this list. >Richard Labs ================= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:23:33 -0400 (EDT) To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, rlabs1@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what Content-Language: en Perhaps we could add a link with the title "Update Who Collects What". It would take us to the same profile/bio page, but be more intuitive if someone doesn't know that they bio page would get them there. Should be pretty easy to do. In a message dated 3/12/2014 6:08:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, illini_grad_90@yahoo.com writes: Go to the Directory, and click on "update your address or collecting goals." Then go to "update profile" and check the correct boxes. Take Care, From: "rlabs1@yahoo.com" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:28 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what How would I add or delete sets from this list. Richard Labs Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:46:14 -0400 To: smartalecx From: "Samuel E. Taylor" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what GREAT idea!! Sam Taylor On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:23 AM, wrote: > Perhaps we could add a link with the title "Update Who Collects What". > It would take us to the same profile/bio page, but be more intuitive if > someone doesn't know that they bio page would get them there. Should be > pretty easy to do. > In a message dated 3/12/2014 6:08:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > illini_grad_90@yahoo.com writes: > Go to the Directory, and click on "update your address or collecting > goals." Then go to "update profile" and check the correct boxes. > Take Care, > Geno > ------------------------------ > *From:* "rlabs1@yahoo.com" > *To:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:28 PM > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] who collects what > How would I add or delete sets from this list. > Richard Labs > Gary Mandell > 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 > Chicago, IL 60613-5518 > http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html > Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB Sam Taylor ================= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:26:22 -0500 To: Obc Ramblings From: Greg IPad Subject: WCW Sorry guys, but I was in the same boat as Yaz on how I searched lists and Inever used WCW, but thanks to Geno I was able to go in and correct my lists so they are right for the first time in years. Maybe it's a Greg thing? Greg Miller Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 12 Mar 2014 13:45:56 -0700 To: From: Subject: relaxing , resting and adding sets ================= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 16:23:39 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: Fw: not sure if anyone is interested in this. a local guy on craigslist sent this out for sale. I don't know anything at all about it or what it would be worth even. anyone have a clue what it might be worth. and better yet, is anyone interested in this? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: John To: jd3681@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:20 PM Sent from my HTC One SV ================= Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:31:24 -0700 (PDT) To: "vintage card traders.com" , From: Patrick Prickett Subject: If you see a .... Hi All, I am down to ONE card to finish my 1952 Topps Grey Backs - #189 Pete Reiser. If you ever see one in ANY condition, please grab it. Do not let it get away. I will make a BIG offer to buy or trade for it. ================= Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 16:08:25 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings , From: Jake Elwell Subject: The 700 Club: 71 Topps Highs FT Guys - I'm sorting a large haul of 71 mid and low grade Topps I picked up last month. I have these 700s available: I HAVE: 702, 705, 711, 714, 716, 721, 723, 724, 729, 730, 732, 738, 739, 741, 743, 745, 746, 748, 749, 751, 752 Multiples available on some and some are rough, so speak up if condition isan Would like to trade for needed 69, 70 and 72 highs if possible but anythingfrom my Wantlist is fine. Here are my lists: 1969 WANTS: 510 513 516 518 522 532 533 535 539 540 545 546 547 554 555 563564 570 572 573 576 580 581 585 586 593 595 597 598 601 604 605 606 608 609 616 617 636 637 640 641 645 650 653 655 657 658 659 661 1970 WANTS: 553 556 560 580 595 601 625 630 637 641 642 643 644 654 657 659660 664 666 675 676 678 682 684 689 690 691 697 698 702 703 712 713 715 1972 WANTS: 528 530 531 533 537 538 539 546 549 550 559 560 566 567 568 569573 579 590 595 600 604 618 621 628 635 644 651 657 658 659 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 674 675 678 679 680 682 683 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 720 721 722 723 724 725 727 728 730 731 732 735 736 739740 741 742 743 744 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 754 755 756 759 760 761 762 763 764 766 767 768 769 771 773 774 775 776 778 780 781 784 785 786 787 MY FULL WANTLIST: http://www.tinyurl.com/jakedaubert Also, have tons of low, mid and mid-high series '71s in similar grade so feel free to send a want list or request a starter lot quantity and we'll figure something out. ================= Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:53:40 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Wttf or wtb 1957 Topps FB Raymond Berry One bump to the 57 Berry request, along with a quick note to ask about 55 Bowman football. Same collector buddy has a mid sized list of needs for 55 B FB, which I won't post here but he's looking for VG or better...but not needing super sharp cards... If you have any for trade (or even sale for bigger names) please let me know and I'll get the list to you to see what we can come up with. I know the Ray Berry is a rookie card so it won't be lying around too many collections, but hey...this group is full of miracle workers :-) OBC Forever! Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD -----Original Message----- From: familytoad To: OBC-Ramblings, OBC-Wantlist Sent: March 9, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] Wttf or wtb 1957 Topps FB Raymond Berry I thought i had one of these, and I offered to help a local collector trying to fill his 57 FB set, but I cannot find it...or I kept bad records. Both are rather like my collecting habits... Can anyone help (not eBay thank you, I am tired of that venue!), i will trade or buy from you if we can strike a deal! OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ================= Date: 14 Mar 2014 05:21:04 -0700 To: From: Subject: Bob Thurman ================= Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 07:58:16 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Brandon Wax Subject: Cards available... I couldnt find these cards on anybody's want list but wanted to trade for cards on my want list or just give them away to another colelctor who needs them...first to email me can have them. 1961 fleer baseball #42 Huggins, #82 Vaughn 1955 bowman football #49 Gilbert 1960 fleer football #72, #32, #23, #6, #78 ================= Date: 14 Mar 2014 13:33:13 -0700 To: From: Subject: Goodies on the OBC site ================= To: , Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:46:33 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Goodies on the OBC site I second Tom=E2=99s motion..........I was just noticing a couple of daysago that several of the =E2=9Cnewbies=E2=9D don=E2=99t have BIO=E2=99s up yet..........and it is time you did. Don=E2=99t make me start naming names, and embarrassing you in public, because I will! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of directorth@aol.com Sent: March-14-14 1:33 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goodies on the OBC site Since there was a recent discussion about the Who Collects What area of ourwebsite, I decided to be "that guy" who points out one of the features we often forget about. It's like when you start digging around in your basement & open a neglected box only to discover there's something pretty cool in there that slipped your mind. There's are several nifty links on our site, but in this episode of "OMG Won't This Guy Ever Shut Up?", I'm going to re-cover what was summarized recently & how to update your OBC Profile & collecting goals: Go to oldbaseball.com, & then click "directory". On the next page that popsup, click "update your address or collecting goals". Then on the next pageyou'll find several options. One is "Update OBC Profile Information". Click that, & once you sign in, you're taken to the page with your personal information: name, address, phone number, room for a bio, etc. If you haven't filled out the bio section - go ahead & do it. Tell us about yourself! Under that is a line that says "Specific Sets Collected". Click next to anyset you are collecting (or want to collect.) If you've been around a while, UNCLICK any sets you've finished. The sets you select as ones you are collecting will, once you hit "update profile", automatically show up in the "Who Collects What" section. Bingo! This concludes today's episode of "Things We Already Know But That Tom Guy Won't Stop Posting Ramblings." No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7196 - Release Date: 03/14/14 ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:56:11 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: 12th Annual OBC NCAA Tournament Bracket Pardon the interruption but it's that time of year again. Looking for 15 others that would like to compete in the OBC NCAA Contest. Each person will be represented by four teams, one in each of the regions with the seed numbers adding up to 34. That means you'll get one team with a 1-4 seeds, one with a 5-8 seed, one with a 9-12 seed and one with a 13-16/17 seed. For example: East #15, South #7, Midwest #2, and West #10; 15+7+2+1034. Whenever any of your teams win then you'll receive cards from the owner of the losing team. Likewise if your team loses then you send cards to the owner of the winning team. Everybody sends cards to the final winner which last year was Brian Betza and the Louisville Cardinals. I'll have to check my teams because I'm pretty sure I still owe Brian something as well as some others. Anyway, if you want in then let me know. If more than 15 people respond then I'll take the first 15 and anybody else will get first crack next year. ================= To: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:11:40 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I'm doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I'm encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I'm interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a "card." I'll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 14:50:50 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating...
I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-)

OBC Forever

Brian

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================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 07:57:40 -0700 To: "" From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: > great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... > I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: vrechek@ameritech.net > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is thatmany of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I coulduse the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post,Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99llaccept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= To: "'Rick'" , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:24:20 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Excellent question. I=E2=99m ignoring variations (and printing differences) for purposes of this article, although I certainly don=E2=99t ignorethem myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=E2=99ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in the book. I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=E2=9D vintage baseball card.=E2=9D From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: vrechek@ameritech.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards,etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There aregray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 08:52:45 -0700 (PDT) To: George Vrechek , From: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Excluding variations and dupes, non-baseball cards (specifically had to exclude T218 and about half of1951 Berk Ross from my original count) I'm coming up with at least 21,600 pre-1981 baseball myself. The number would go higher if I start really poking thru my oddball boxes and start adding up TCMA, OPC, Laughlins, etc. especially if I discover any large sets/collection such as the 1976 SSPC set (630 cards) that I added to the total at thelast Interesting topic. Mike Mackie From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:11 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards,etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There aregray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:56:06 -0400 To: George Vrechek From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Good question, George! My collection's hovered around 10,000 cards for many years, as new binders generally displace less wanted sets for shelf space. Just counted up and, including dupes boxes, that's where I still am. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM, George Vrechek wrote: > I'm doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many of > us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of > what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in > the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I'm encouraging collectors (including > myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could > use the information without divulging names. I'm interested in how many > singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured > that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For > example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you > would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 > cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, > Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco > cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 > and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over > 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. > There are gray areas as to what constitutes a "card." I'll accept anything > which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of > oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards > in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of > baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the > challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:12:24 -0400 (EDT) To: vrechek@ameritech.net From: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Content-Language: en 4,871, not counting the 1952 Topps reprint set. I maintain an up-to-date list in an Eccel spreadsheet. BR, In a message dated 3/16/2014 11:24:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: Excellent question. I=E2=99m ignoring variations (and printing differences) purposes of this article, although I certainly don=E2=99t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=E2=99ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=E2=9D vintage baseball card.=E2=9D From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, <_familytoad@comcast.net_ (mailto:familytoad@comcast.net) > wrote: great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, youwould have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:17:09 -0700 To: George Vrechek From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I'm going with 16,844 from 51-80 topps regular issue cards, 3072 for topps inserts coins,posters,stamps,rub offs ..., 6907 OPC regular issue plus inserts, 1115 bowman, 2706 misc. cards . So I'll go with 30,644+- since I don'thave every card catalogued. I went thru the 2011 SCD vintage book. Yes every item is not cardboard because I do collect a lot of oddball items like coins,stickers but these are the items in the book. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2014, at 8:24 AM, "George Vrechek" wrote: > Excellent question. I=E2=99m ignoring variations (and printing differences) for purposes of this article, although I certainly don=E2=99t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=E2=99ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in the book. > I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=E2=9D vintage baseball card.=E2=9D > George > From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM > To: > Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation > Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: > great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... > I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: vrechek@ameritech.net > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is thatmany of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I coulduse the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post,Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99llaccept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:00:43 -0700 To: George Vrechek From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? My number is about 9,000 shy of Ricks. Adding all the oddball, regional andtype cards to the Topps, Bowman, OPC and others in the book I have 21,632 unique vintage cards. John Stamper On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:11 AM, "George Vrechek" wrote: > I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is thatmany of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I coulduse the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post,Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99llaccept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:47:02 -0500 To: "bskp1@aol.com" From: Jleroux Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Okay George for baseball only I have 12243 John Leroux > On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:12 AM, bskp1@aol.com wrote: > 4,871, not counting the 1952 Topps reprint set. > I maintain an up-to-date list in an Eccel spreadsheet. BR, > Chuck > In a message dated 3/16/2014 11:24:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net > Excellent question. I=E2=99m ignoring variations (and printing differences) for purposes of this article, although I certainly don=E2=99t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=E2=99ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in the book. > I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=E2=9D vintage baseball card.=E2=9D > George > From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM > To: > Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation > Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: > great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... > I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) > OBC Forever > Brian > Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: vrechek@ameritech.net > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is thatmany of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I coulduse the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post,Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99llaccept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:08:07 -0700 To: Jleroux From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I'm at 13,705, give or take. Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Jleroux wrote: > Okay George for baseball only I have 12243 > Thanks > John Leroux >> On Mar 16, 2014, at 11:12 AM, bskp1@aol.com wrote: >> 4,871, not counting the 1952 Topps reprint set. >> I maintain an up-to-date list in an Eccel spreadsheet. BR, >> Chuck >> In a message dated 3/16/2014 11:24:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net >> Excellent question. I=E2=99m ignoring variations (and printing differences) for purposes of this article, although I certainly don=E2=99t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=E2=99ll figure out how many cataloguedvariations are in the book. >> I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=E2=9D vintage baseball card.=E2=9D >> George >> From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM >> To: >> Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George >> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you haveanyway? >> Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the setcount. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation >> Sent from my iPad >> On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: >> great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... >> I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) >> OBC Forever >> Brian >> Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: vrechek@ameritech.net >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? >> I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. >> If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? >> My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. >> Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. >> Thanks for any help. >> George Vrechek ================= To: George Vrechek Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:27:53 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have I'm putting mine right around the 20K mark (this is pre-1981, baseball only, non-dupes). As I keep thinking about it, a few more keep popping up here and there that I forgot to add in. LOL To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; familytoad@comcast.net CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:24:20 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Excellent question. I=92m ignoring variations (and printing differences) for purposes of this article, although I certainly don=92t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=92ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in the book.I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=94 vintage baseball card.=94George From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: vrechek@ameritech.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I=92m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many ofus collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=92m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons.If any of you would care toshare information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=92m interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. Ifyour Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, PlayBall, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =93card.=94 I=92ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:39:38 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have I have reduced my collection to baseball 1972 and earlier (I unloaded 1973 - 1980 which was about 6K cards), so I would say around 15K, not counting variations (another 1-2K), non-sport (another 1K), or dupes (another 1K). I'm surprised to hear there are only 110K cards in the vintage catalog, I would have guessed the number quite higher... To: vrechek@ameritech.net CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 15:27:53 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I'm putting mine right around the 20K mark (this is pre-1981, baseball only, non-dupes). As I keep thinking about it, a few more keep popping up here and there that I forgot to add in. LOL To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; familytoad@comcast.net CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:24:20 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Excellent question. I=92m ignoring variations (and printing differences) for purposes of this article, although I certainly don=92t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=92ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in the I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=94 vintage baseball card.=94George From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, wrote: great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: vrechek@ameritech.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I=92m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many ofus collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=92m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons.If any of you would care toshare information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=92m interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. Ifyour Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, PlayBall, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =93card.=94 I=92ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:14:44 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Content-Language: en last count I had all the cards in opps from 1951 to present except 11 52's and the some variations all total 1 had over 80K including both 53 Bowman sets In a message dated 3/16/2014 2:27:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, taylor_schock@hotmail.com writes: I'm putting mine right around the 20K mark (this is pre-1981, baseball only, non-dupes). As I keep thinking about it, a few more keep popping up here and there that I forgot to add in. LOL To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; familytoad@comcast.net CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:24:20 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have Excellent question. I=E2=99m ignoring variations (and printing differences) purposes of this article, although I certainly don=E2=99t ignore them myself. Back variations alone might add a few thousand more cards to achieve master sets. For fun I=E2=99ll figure out how many catalogued variations are in I have an entire paragraph in the article discussing what is a=E2=9D vintage baseball card.=E2=9D From: Rick [mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:58 AM To: Cc: OBC-Ramblings; George Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have Are you counting variations as extra card or going strictly but the set count. Like 53 topps has 274 cards or 354 with back variation Sent from my iPad On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:50 AM, <_familytoad@comcast.net_ (mailto:familytoad@comcast.net) > wrote: great topic George, I'll try counting/estimating... I know one thing, I have approximately 5000 1971 Topps FB and counting :-) OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Sent:Sun Mar 16 02:11:49 UTC 2014 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, youwould have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 17:19:32 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Thanks very much for the great responses already. It is interesting that people have a pretty good handle on what's in those boxes and binders. For the record the average is 17,800 single vintage baseball cards among the 14 responding so far. ================= To: , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 18:31:16 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? On Dec 29th I had 13,751 Topps from 52-80. Probably well over 14K by now. Counting bowmans, post/jello. Coins, embossed, mini's, other vintage Phillies, maybe another 1500 or more. I would estimate my total to be between 15,500 and 16,000. This makes sense given my hobby age of about 13 years - the past 8 years, plus years from 1976-81. Thanks for the new lifetime goal - 30,000 vintage cards! Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hoot_owl1@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:15 PM To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have Seems I might need to follow Richard Dingman's route and unload/divest myself of 1974-1980. My count came to nearly 27,000 different baseball cards--Topps, Fleer, Leaf, Bowman, Hostess, and of course Post (along with 50s regionals, Redman, Royal Dessert, Red Heart, DanDees, Wilson Franks, I can't seem to shake my pack rat ways. peter mead On 03/16/14, George Vrechek wrote: I'm doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I'm encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I'm interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a "card." I'll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:26:02 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? My edjumacated guesstimate of pre-1981 cards in my collection is a meager 16500. Still, not bad for a Transatlantic collector!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Thanks very much for the great responses already. It is interesting that people have a pretty good handle on what=E2=99s in those boxes and binders. For the record the average is 17,800 single vintage baseball cards among the 14 responding so far. ================= To: , Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:29:40 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I would say that after carefull consideration, I must be around 18.5 K. I only need 30 for the complete topps run, and I need a bunch of Bowmans, but I have a bunch of and Fleer Laughlins, plus a few dozen oddballs. Then there are the '68 game the '69 deckles, and the '76 traded set. I'm happy being about average :) ----- Original Message ----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:11 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? I'm doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many ofus collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I'm encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I coulduse the information without divulging names. I'm interested in how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards,you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a "card." I'll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards isin the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:29:52 -0500 To: George Vrechek , From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? This looked like a neat thing to do and I thought, "I know what I'll be doing the rest of the night." Well, 15 minutes later, I'm done. I started a database for my cards back in the 80's on a CpM machine using dbase II and recorded, graded and priced all my cards. It's been an ongoing chore, and I'm not done yet. I've finished up into the late 80's somewhere. I converted the dbase II to Microsoft Works in the late 80's then upgraded it to their newer versions twice. Now there is no Works but I still use the program for my data base. (It's very glichy with newer computers and op systems. Anyway, since all my cards are cataloged up past George's timeline, Iooked the total up through 1980, sorted them to weed out the few that had no price added, (because they weren't in the SCD), and subtracted them. My number is 18781. To this I will add an estimated 300 that are sitting on my desk still to be cataloged and say 19,081. These include all variations I have accumulated because I want to and don't include the measly 50 or so dupes still sitting in my dupe box. I am surprised by how many this is. What a hobby! Greg (yaz) On 3/16/2014 9:11 AM, George Vrechek wrote: > I'm doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many > of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a > fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick > up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I'm encouraging > collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I > could use the information without divulging names. I'm interested in > how many singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before > 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could > estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and > Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your > Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 > cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, > Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have > another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between > 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A > total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 > baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a "card." > I'll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog > which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards > out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued > after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of > 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the > challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be > interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= Date: 16 Mar 2014 19:17:13 -0700 To: From: Subject: re how many cards ================= Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 01:32:31 -0400 To: George Vrechek , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have ================= Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 01:45:08 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Content-Language: en I grabbed an old (2005) SCD and went through alphabetically... The good part about this SCD is that all the pre-1981 stuff is all together. I realized that I'm collecting just a small fraction of what was issued. Anyway, after adding up totals for Bowman, Fleer, Kellogg's, Leaf, Post, Red Man, Topps, a couple odd ball sets and my token pre-war set of T205's - I came up with a total of 23,248 not including variations. I did add a couple variations where the card depicted a different player (ie. 54 Bowman Williams, 69 Deckle Foy, etc), and some unnumbered cards that weren't included in the set total, but that added maybe 5 or 10 cards to the grand total. I'd conservatively estimate that all the variations I have would add another 1500 or so cards to that. Hope that helps, Ken M In a message dated 3/16/2014 10:11:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is that many us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I could use the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, youwould have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post, Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99ll accept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. Thanks for any help. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:22:28 -0400 (EDT) To: vrechek@ameritech.net From: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? Content-Language: en George, the companion question to how many, is how much did you spend to acquire the cards? I'm sure many would prefer not to know the answer! BR, In a message dated 3/16/2014 6:19:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: Thanks very much for the great responses already. It is interesting that people have a pretty good handle on what=E2=99s in those boxes and binders. For the record the average is 17,800 single vintage baseball cards among the 14 responding so far. ================= To: Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 08:37:15 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? With 25 responses now the average is 17,400. If you throw out the high and low responses, it is still 17,400. I think I figured out that a lot of the numbers I'm extracting from the SCD Catalog may be readily available from the Beckett online price guide. Does anyone subscribe to the online Beckett who might know the answer to a few more questions I have? Eg baseball cards issued between 1863 and 1980? My number is 107,000 "gleaned" from the SCD book. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:21:22 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings From: Tom Elliott Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? OK, I counted and came up with 10,212. There might be a handful more, but that's Tom Elliott Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: "Matt Yudt" > Date: March 16, 2014 at 5:31:16 PM CDT > To: , > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > Reply-To: > On Dec 29th I had 13,751 Topps from 52-80. Probably well over 14K by now. Counting bowmans, post/jello. Coins, embossed, mini=E2=99s, other vintage Phillies, maybe another 1500 or more. I would estimate my total to bebetween 15,500 and 16,000. This makes sense given my hobby age of about 13 years - the past 8 years, plus years from 1976-81. > Thanks for the new lifetime goal - 30,000 vintage cards! > Matt Yudt > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hoot_owl1@verizon.net > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:15 PM > To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? > Seems I might need to follow Richard Dingman's route and unload/divest myself of 1974-1980. My count came to nearly 27,000 different baseball cards--Topps, Fleer, Leaf, Bowman, Hostess, and of course Post (along with 50s regionals, Redman, Royal Dessert, Red Heart, DanDees, Wilson Franks, etc). > I can't seem to shake my pack rat ways. > peter mead > On 03/16/14, George Vrechek wrote: > I=E2=99m doing another SCD article on set collecting. My topic is thatmany of us collect a lot of vintage cards, but whatever we have is a fraction of what is available if you were (theoretically) able to pick up everything in the annual SCD vintage card catalog. I=E2=99m encouraging collectors (including myself) to continue to broaden their horizons. > If any of you would care to share information on your collection, I coulduse the information without divulging names. I=E2=99m interested in howmany singles you have of baseball cards that were issued before 1981. I figured that many of us are into annual goals and could estimate a number. For example, if you had all the regular Topps and Bowman sets before 1981, you would have about 19,000 cards. If your Topps and Bowman wantlist is 1,0000 cards, you must have about 18,000 cards. When you throw in Hostess, Post,Leaf, Fleer, Kellogg, Goudey, Play Ball, exhibit cards, a few tobacco cards, etc, you might have another 5,000? > My guess is that long-time vintage collectors might have between 15,000 and 30,000 baseball singles from sets issued before 1981. A total over 30,000 would be surprising. Jefferson Burdick had 30,000 baseball cards. There are gray areas as to what constitutes a =E2=9Ccard.=E2=9D I=E2=99llaccept anything which is included in the SCD Vintage catalog which includes a lot of oddballs. My own number is around 24,000 cards out of maybe 110,000 cards in the catalog. If you include cards issued after 1981, the universe of baseball cards is in the neighborhood of 1.5 million cards. > Respond either to Ramblings or to me directly. Any comments on the challenge of finding additional sets to conquer would also be interesting. > Thanks for any help. > George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:15:08 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? 20,203 and about 200 duplicates And it all started in 1989 at my first card show where I picked up a 1952 Topps #158 Eddie Waitkus which I bought for a quarter. ================= To: larrytipton@windstream.net, Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:32:55 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How many vintage baseball cards do you have anyway? ================= Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:13:51 -0400 To: Richard Labs From: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re how many cards I estimate i have 12000 cards prior to 1980. On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:17 PM, wrote: > I think that I have about 16,500 Topps cards in my binders. I also have > probably another 500 Post, Fleer, and Bowman cards. I also have about 500 > Phillies before 1981. That would total to about 17,500 cards. I also have > about 3.000 Topps and Bowman dupes from 19i9-1969 and 2500 dupes from > 1970-1981. > Richard Labs ================= Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:44:43 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: sun times show just checking in to see who will be there on Saturday if we dont hook up beforehand, lets meet at kevin savage's table around noon. it is usually the first row to your right as you walk in Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:55:58 -0700 (PDT) To: "smartalecx@aol.com" , From: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] sun times show I'm planning on being there Saturday as well although not sure I'll be there by noon. See you then. Mike Mackie From: "smartalecx@aol.com" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:44 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] sun times show just checking in to see who will be there on Saturday if we dont hook up beforehand, lets meet at kevin savage's table around noon. it is usually the first row to your right as you walk in Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/ Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 08:15:47 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: sun times show I'll be there Saturday and look for any OBCers at Savages by noon. George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 14:47:59 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Ron Perry Subject: Chicago Show Saturday John Dahms and I will be there on Saturday. Found a few cards for Gary, Mike Mackie and a HOF'er for JD. See you guys Saturday. ================= Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:57:32 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Andy Subject: T206 backs Can someone send me a comprehensive list of all the possible backs. For example "Piedmont 150 Factory 25", etc. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:31:01 -0700 To: Andy , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: David Fallen Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T206 backs http://www.t206resource.com/Checklist%20Main.html On 3/20/2014 5:57 PM, Andy wrote: > Can someone send me a comprehensive list of all the possible backs. > For example "Piedmont 150 Factory 25", etc. > Thanks, > Andy > Sent from my iPad ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 12:01:04 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 2008 Heritage available I picked up a very small stack of these and have no use for them. If you have a want list, send it to me and I'll take a look. The only insert I have from this set is a C44 (Smoltz, 1085/1959). http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: 21 Mar 2014 10:45:38 -0700 To: From: Subject: Who Collects What new link added ================= Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:20:17 -0400 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Don Rice Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Who Collects What new link added Outstanding! Thanks Wayne! Thanks Tom! On 3/21/2014 1:45 PM, directorth@aol.com wrote: > Fellas, > A recent topic was the Who Collects What area of the website, and how > to update your own listings on that area. > The original way involved a few steps - essentially updating your OBC > Profile information: > Go to oldbaseball.com > Click the "Directory" button > Click the "/Update your address or collecting goals > /link > Click the//Update OBC Profile Information > link. > Enter your password, & then you're on the combined bio/set list page > that you can edit. At the bottom of the Profile Information page is a > list of sets. Any set you click on as one you are collecting will > automatically appear in the Who Collects What section. > That method still exists, but Wayne Delia was kind enough to add a > direct link to the list of sets. This will NOT give you your > biographical profile information to edit - just the set lists: > On oldbaseball.com, click the "Directory" button > On the next page, click on the /Update \"Who Collects What\" Info > > /link./ > /You'll be prompted to enter your password, and then once that's done > you will see the list of sets for you to choose from./ > /Thanks to Wayne for adding the link. While the new way saves just one > step in the process, the addition of the "Who Collects What" verbiage > should help those who couldn't locate that area before. > Tom ================= Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 15:43:18 -0700 (PDT) To: Taylor Schock , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2008 Heritage available WL as promised. 2008 Topps Heritage: 002 007 008 010 011 012 014 016 018 022 023 028 034 035 045 057 060 061 065068 078 079 082 083 088 090 091 117 118 122 127 129 133 135 139 142 143 146 150 174 180 186195 196 198 224 225 226 231 262 263 283 284 285 291 296 303 315 321 325330 334 335 338 347 350 362 371 381 400 409 442 443 444 445 449 450 452 453 454 457 458 464 468 469 473 474 475 477 479 485 503 519 523 529 531 532 542 545 547 549 557 563 583 584 592 595 596 602 607 619 621 639 647 649 650 653 654 656 659 661 667 671 672 681 682 Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Taylor Schock To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" ; "OCTraders@yahoogroups.com" ; "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" ; "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 4:01 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2008 Heritage available I picked up a very small stack of these and have no use for them. If you have a want list, send it to me and I'll take a look. The only insert I have from this set is a C44 (Smoltz, 1085/1959). http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:14:20 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: **08 He**t**e Available on this server in this club? Sent from my iPhone ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 10:07:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Housley Subject: Re: 2008 Heritage available Please keep specific references to the shiny stuff to the UV mailing list. Remember, the primary focus of the Ramblings, Thanks & WL mail groups is vintage (aka pre-1981). This issue crops up every now & then, & I realize sometimes postings are made in error, but please be aware & keep to the rules set forth in the RulesOf Quoting from the ROC: "Pleaseremember that all other OBC servers are intended for pre-1981 cards. As a convenience the Thanks server can be used for both vintage and UV cards, however, detaileddescription of UV cards received should be reserved for the UV server.Discussions about newer cards should be restricted to a shortthank you for unmentionables." ================= Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:13:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Housley , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2008 Heritage available My apologies, guys. I didn't even notice that this was on Ramblings when I sent a reply. And I should know better as I think I drafted the guideline below!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2008 Heritage available Please keep specific references to the shiny stuff to the UV mailing list. Remember, the primary focus of the Ramblings, Thanks & WL mail groups is vintage (aka pre-1981). This issue crops up every now & then, & I realize sometimes postings are made in error, but please be aware & keep to the rules set forth in the RulesOf Quoting from the ROC: remember that all other OBC servers are intended for pre-1981 cards.As a convenience the Thanksserver can be used for both vintage and UV cards,however, description of UV cards received should be reserved for the UV server.Discussions about newer cards should be restricted to a short thank you for unmentionables." ================= To: Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:03:21 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Chicago Show As I look out the window and see several inches of snow falling, I am glad that yesterday was half-decent. I hope all the OBCers got back home last night without any weather problems. The show was good. It was even better to see Pelletier, Mackie, Dahms, Perry, and Mandell all make it to the show. We missed TJ, but next time. It was my first large show since last summer's The show seemed well-attended but not too crowded. I think there were big name autograph guests but don't have a clue as to who was there. Most of the usual dealer suspects were there. Ron Estes (why isn't he on our dealer page?) started me off on 4 new sets by having some attractive prices on Red Man cards. I bought about 40 Red Man cards at the show - including '52 Rogovin and '53 Dressen twice. For someone who has never tried smoking, I'm hooked now on Red Mans and T218s. I've already posted my large Red Man wantlist. It is always fun to make progress on a new set that looks good and turns out to be not expensive - so far. I am staying away from those pricey I also found several Hostess cards including a Carew variation to get me down to 13 left plus 2 variations. The only T218 I found at the show came from Mike Mackie. Thanks again Mike. I found a 1939 Play Ball back variation and a 1950 Bowman no copyright - a big deal for me. Jack from Cleveland had some good cards including some more Red Mans along with Henry VIII and Queen Elizabeth rookie cards from a British set "Royal Bengals." Anyone know anything about the cards? Jack didn't. My two buys from the show were 12 1953 Topps for $10. They looked pretty good on the front. The backs had significant scrapbook remains and damage. I am test-soaking and drying two of them. The scrapbook junk comes off with no problem. Now the challenge is pressing them to avoid the just-out-of-the-bath look. The other good deal was a buy of 12 exhibit cards for $10 that were in VG-Ex shape. I couldn't believe the price. They are originals - Musial, Spahn, Minoso, etc. A nice rescue with no soaking needed. Great fun. Uncle Dick had some Bowman footballers I picked up. A great day for a card show. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:19:20 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: $2 sets I forgot to mention in my first post, Kevin Savage was there with a nice bargain box and actually an entire table. You could buy a card for $1 or you could get 700 cards for $2. He brought several late 80s early 90s baseball regular sets. The price was $20 for 10 sets. Cart them away, please. I wasn't tempted since I had all these sets already and had probably paid $25 each for them 25 years ago. It shows how much of the stuff is still out there. Savage said he could sell out a table full every day and never run out. Some day all the mothers will get together and throw out these cards making the surviving cards valuable finally. in 2114. Right now it looks like the market price is maybe 1/4th of a penny each. ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:30:59 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chicago Show Loving variations as you do, will serve you well on the Red Man quest. In addition to the player/team variations in 1954, each card comes with 2 different dates on the back for the mail in offer, as well as the tabs v notabs. Currently, I believe Ken Morganti and I are the 2 chasing the date variations the most, although I am the only 1 in OBC that I am aware of that is also chasing the tabs v no tabs. Why collect only 1 or 2 sets, when you go for 4 "different" sets for each year of Red Man??? Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Mar 23, 2014 8:03 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chicago Show As I look out the window and see several inches of snow falling, I am glad that yesterday was half-decent. I hope all the OBCers got back home last night without any weather problems. The show was good. It was even better to see Pelletier, Mackie, Dahms, Perry, and Mandell all make it to the show. We missed TJ, but next time. It was my first large show since last summer=E2=99s The show seemed well-attended but not too crowded. I think there were big name autograph guests but don=E2=99t have a clue as to who was there. Most of the usual dealer suspects were there. Ron Estes (why isn=E2=99t he on our dealer page?) started me off on 4 new sets by having some attractiveprices on Red Man cards. I bought about 40 Red Man cards at the show =E2=93 including =E2=9952 Rogovin and =E2=9953 Dressen twice. For someone who has never tried smoking, I& #8217;m hooked now on Red Mans and T218s. I=E2=99ve already posted my large Red Man wantlist. It is always funto make progress on a new set that looks good and turns out to be not expensive =E2=93 so far. I am staying away from those pricey tabs. I also found several Hostess cards including a Carew variation to get me down to 13 left plus 2 variations. The only T218 I found at the show came from Mike Mackie. Thanks again Mike. I found a 1939 Play Ball back variation and a 1950 Bowman no copyright =E2=93 a big deal for me. Jack from Cleveland had some good cards including some more Red Mans along with Henry VIII and Queen Elizabeth rookie cards from a British set =E2=9CRoyal Bengals.=E2=9D Anyone know anything about the cards? Jack didn=E2=99t. My two buys from the show were 12 1953 Topps for $10. They looked pretty good on the fron t. The backs had significant scrapbook remains and damage. Iam test-soaking and drying two of them. The scrapbook junk comes off with no problem. Now the challenge is pressing them to avoid the just-out-of-the-bath look. The other good deal was a buy of 12 exhibit cards for $10 that were in VG-Ex shape. I couldn=E2=99t believe the price. They are originals =E2=93 Musial, Spahn, Minoso, etc. A nice rescue with no soaking needed. Great fun. Uncle Dick had some Bowman footballers I picked up. A great day for a card show. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:13:04 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: sun times show I was able to attend the show in Chicago yesterday with Ron Perry.Huge thanks to my step daughter Kayla for swapping cars with me, my jeep gets 16 mpg while her ion gets 30. thanks Kid! ron arrived at my place a bit before 7, right inside the door he handed me the Yogi card for my 62 topps set. Gary Mandell and Nick Pelletier were already digging in at Uncle Dicks bargain box, nice to meet Nick finally after a couple of years of trading and emailing. Shortly after, George Vrechek came up and handed me a much appreciated 68 topps Don Meredith card in not so much OBC condition, (thanks much George), Mike Mackie showed up a few minutes later and a white envelope flashes out of his bag into my hand, a nice semi hi 63 topps ofpaul toth and a nice 64 al kaline coin. very nice stuff from a great trading great conversation as always with Ron Perry, great meeting Nick, and great seeing Gary, Mike and George again. Missed seeing TJ though. but encouraged by all the great news coming from his camp! Was able to pick up a nice big huge box full of cardboard for my sets, updating the lists throughout the day. good seeing the dealers that I have met in the last couple of years. on a side note, I had looked at the dealer page on the OBC site earlier in the week. it hasn't been updated in quite a while. now I am definitely not the know all get all person on our dealers but is this something that might want to be looked at??? Also, full disclosure, I forgot my OBC hat for the show. Ron kindly told me that I was going to get asked repeatedly where it was, and as per usual, he was right. wont do that again. thanks to all the guys I met, great time. thanks to Ron Perry for thecompany throughout the show. and again, thanks to Kayla for the use of her car... happy sunday OBC. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:17:01 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: new set added 1960 TOPPS BASEBALL Been thinking about this for awhile........decided to add the 1960 TOPPS BASEBALL SET to my needs....I have "nadda"......"zipppo"......"goose egg city". Any condition is FINE. Thanks for listening. Ken Goetsch ================= To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" , Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 10:40:13 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] websites You presume incorrectly. Weebly is free for the most part. If you want advanced features (or want to create you own domain), it will cost you. HoweverI am using the "free" version, as I think most of us are. I just haven't added photos / scans of cards as some have. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:34:19 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] websites Good morning OBC; Verizon recently eliminated their webservice for all verizon users. So my updated web page will hang around for six more months. Meanwhile I am in need of a new web page. I would probably try to build a wantlist from the OBC page--if I could figure out how to use it? Anybody have a primer on how to build a page via OBC? I have also seen some folks move to weebly. I am presuming this is not free? I need something easy and cheap--so any suggestions would be appreciated. Doesn't need to be fancy--as my list has always been an uploaded Word file. peter mead ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:43:06 -0700 To: Taylor Schock From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] websites Yola is free also Sent from my iPad > On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Taylor Schock wrote: > Peter, > You presume incorrectly. Weebly is free for the most part. If you want advanced features (or want to create you own domain), it will cost you. However I am using the "free" version, as I think most of us are. I just haven'tadded photos / scans of cards as some have. > Regards, > Taylor > http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:34:19 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] websites > Good morning OBC; > Verizon recently eliminated their webservice for all verizon users. So my updated web page will hang around for six more months. Meanwhile I am inneed of a new web page. > I would probably try to build a wantlist from the OBC page--if I could figure out how to use it? Anybody have a primer on how to build a page via OBC? > I have also seen some folks move to weebly. I am presuming this is not free? > I need something easy and cheap--so any suggestions would be appreciated.Doesn't need to be fancy--as my list has always been an uploaded Word file. > peter mead ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:14:04 -0700 To: Rick From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] websites I use Yola and love it. You can be as basic as you want or as creative. Andit's free, free and free with no pop ups or advertising. On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Rick wrote: > Yola is free also > Sent from my iPad > On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Taylor Schock wrote: >> Peter, >> You presume incorrectly. Weebly is free for the most part. If you want advanced features (or want to create you own domain), it will cost you. However I am using the "free" version, as I think most of us are. I just haven't added photos / scans of cards as some have. >> Regards, >> Taylor >> http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html >> To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net >> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:34:19 -0500 >> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] websites >> Good morning OBC; >> Verizon recently eliminated their webservice for all verizon users. So my updated web page will hang around for six more months. Meanwhile I am in need of a new web page. >> I would probably try to build a wantlist from the OBC page--if I could figure out how to use it? Anybody have a primer on how to build a page via OBC? >> I have also seen some folks move to weebly. I am presuming this is not free? >> I need something easy and cheap--so any suggestions would be appreciated. Doesn't need to be fancy--as my list has always been an uploaded Word file. >> peter mead ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 11:54:02 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] websites Free, easy, clean, intuitive. CC: taylor_schock@hotmail.com; hoot_owl1@verizon.net; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com From: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:14:04 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] websites I use Yola and love it. You can be as basic as you want or as creative. And it's free, free and free with no pop ups or advertising. On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Rick wrote: Yola is free also Sent from my iPad On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Taylor Schock wrote: You presume incorrectly. Weebly is free for the most part. If you want advanced features (or want to create you own domain), it will cost you. HoweverI am using the "free" version, as I think most of us are. I just haven't added photos / scans of cards as some have. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 07:34:19 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] websites Good morning OBC; Verizon recently eliminated their webservice for all verizon users. So my updated web page will hang around for six more months. Meanwhile I am in need of a new web page. I would probably try to build a wantlist from the OBC page--if I could figure out how to use it? Anybody have a primer on how to build a page via OBC? I have also seen some folks move to weebly. I am presuming this is not free? I need something easy and cheap--so any suggestions would be appreciated. Doesn't need to be fancy--as my list has always been an uploaded Word file. peter mead ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 15:54:02 +0000 (UTC) To: hoot owl1 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] websites Hey Peter, This topic has been discussed a few time recently so the email server archives are helpful but I'm sure you will get a few suggestions from your post.there are many sites that offer free options - I use 50MEGS. Like many others there is a free option and other "add-ons" that you can purchase like aunique domain. There are others who use this site: Spike, Bob Corvello, and Tom Housley come to mind. There is a simple to use site-builder tool thateven I could use and the pages have a nice look. If interested you can start off by clicking here and start off by selecting a FREE domain and go from there - www.signup.50megs.com . Good Luck and BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------ MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "hoot owl1" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 8:34:19 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] websites Good morning OBC; Verizon recently eliminated their webservice for all verizon users. So my updated web page will hang around for six more months. Meanwhile I am in need of a new web page. I would probably try to build a wantlist from the OBC page--if I could figure out how to use it? Anybody have a primer on how to build a page via OBC? I have also seen some folks move to weebly. I am presuming this is not free? I need something easy and cheap--so any suggestions would be appreciated. Doesn't need to be fancy--as my list has always been an uploaded Word file. peter mead ================= To: , Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 13:28:18 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I went with Yola I'm guessing you made a great choice, Peter. Two of my favorite looking and navigating OBC want lists are Cobb Spiked Me and Holidays and Hobbies, both yolas. I am about to make a switch too and a friend was telling me to go to www.wordpress.org and find a theme, download the software, get a domain host fromm something like godaddy.com, yada yada. Maybe someday, but gonna give yola a spin first, I think.. Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hoot_owl1@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:45 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I went with Yola Thanks for all the website feedback. I went with Yola--beyond easy, and eventually I will figure out how to delete their "banner." For the time being my boring, plain, and simple wantlist is, once again, current. Time for me to put together a waiver wire..... peter mead ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:27:07 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: One of the good things... ... about being out of the NCAA card pool by early afternoon on Sunday, is that I can get all but the champion's cards sent out in one early mailing. LOL ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 14:01:27 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Nick Pelletier Subject: Re: re how many cards Cards 1980 and earlier.... Baseball- 17125 Football- 2390 Basketball- 546 Hockey- 1809 totaling....21870 and probably counting. Gary Mandell may have been right when he said patience was not my strong suit. I blame the dealers for finding the stuff that they do and the prices they have it at. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:56:20 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: sun times show as others have mentioned, perry, dahms, mackie, vrechek and pelletier were there. nick also brought his friend levi along, who has obc potential. collecting twins for himself and the 66 set for his father in law. good guy, and hope to see him again. started right off at uncle dick's as i wanted to make headway on my newly split 63 post and jello sets (new wantlists to be posted on that server). completed the fastest trade in history as ron perry gave me 2 jellos i needed along with one he needed from uncle dick. threw his into my pile, paid the man, handed the one to ron, and the trade was complete. no physical, no conditional draft choice, although ron did have to complete a drug test (he passed, just barely). once again, ron estes had a good number of hits, including my big purchase of the day, a nicely conditioned and well priced hack wilson from the 33 goudey set. if ron is not on our dealer list, could someone please let me know how we get him on there. i am sure we can get many supporting references for him! uncle dick's table neighbor had a 52 mantle available, and dick asked if i wanted to see it. if you have been following this card on ebay lately, you know the prices have skyrocketed. in any case, dick says "knock $500 off the sticker price". so i am thinking, this may be it. i may have to bite the bullet. then i see $6,250 for a 1.5 graded psa, and i couldn't help but laugh. i will happily die without one of those if it is going to take $6 large to get one in poor shape! i figured with so few that i was looking for, i would spend some time on variations. picked up the final 61 checklist variation i needed and a 69 popovich. i made sure that i had tom housely's three part scan so that i knew what each variation looked like. unfortunately, while i knew i had the fully airbrushed version, i couldn't remember which of the other 2 i needed. 50-50 chance, and i guessed wrong, so that one remains on the wantlist. out $1. we all pooped out before closing time, and made our way across the street to gibsons. ncaa, beers, sliders and the oftentimes unavailable potato skins made for a wonderful post-show treat! one disappointing note. i was arranging with TJ that we could visit with him after the show, and we were set to go. but a mid-week fever put the kibosh on those plans, but am thrilled to report that he was feeling much better towards week's end. hope to see you soon big guy! next show in late june, about 5 weeks before national. looking forward to seeing everybody again. i didn't win the $1 billion in the NCAA bracket tourney :-( Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:39:43 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Gurus "Single Card Pleasure" (S.C.P.) Availables On this very lazy Sunday evening I'm trying to put together some "Single Card Pleasure" envelopes to send out. I've got eight ready to go, but I'm getting tired of looking at want lists. So I am going to list a few cards and let me know if you want one of them. Remember only one! 1. 1955 Bowman #25 Minnie Minoso trimmed to the size of a regular card, butyou MUST own this card, Minnie laying down a bunt! 2. 1961 Topps #160 Whitey Ford with a hole punch through his cap 3. 1964 Topps #1 ERA Leaders w/ Koufax 4. 1964 Topps #5 Strikeout Leaders w/ Koufax and Drysdale 5. 1966 Topps #225 Strikeout Leaders w/ Koufax and Gibson This SCP update brought to you by "the Guru" his-self ================= Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:25:14 -0700 (PDT) To: "yudts5@verizon.net" , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I went with Yola I like Yolaas well!I have both my OBC wantlists and the DZK Memorial Foundation with Yola and am very satisfied! "we keep what we give away!" From: Matt Yudt To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I went with Yola I=E2=99m guessing you made a great choice, Peter. Two of my favorite looking and navigating OBC want lists are Cobb Spiked Me and Holidays and Hobbies, both yolas. I am about to make a switch too and a friend was telling me to go to http://www.wordpress.org/ and find a theme, download the software, get a domain host fromm something like godaddy.com, yada yada. Maybe someday, but gonna give yola a spin first, I think=E2=A6. Matt Yudt From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hoot_owl1@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 12:45 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I went with Yola Thanks for all the website feedback. I went with Yola--beyond easy, and eventually I will figure out how to delete their "banner." For the time being my boring, plain, and simple wantlist is, once again, current. Time for me to put together a waiver peter mead ================= Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 06:37:37 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: "Super-Soaker" What are the odds that I can "redeem" this card I just won on ebay? (Terry Bradshaw rookie 1971 Topps) $3.50 plus $2.50 shipping ================= Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 08:29:43 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: super-soaker pictures http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/media/_57-1.jpg.html http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/media/_57.jpg.html ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 15:26:21 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: For all you coin crossover collectors For all you coin collectors, just got this notice in the mail today: http://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId10001&mpe_id12101&productId17496&intv_id15552&evtypeCpgnClic= Not overly thrilling, but very cool that the coin is curved. ================= Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:29:18 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Posting Pictures On Ramblings Server So it's obvious I don't know how to post a picture here on the ramblings server. On the Net54 boards I use Photobucket and have no problem putting a picture with my messages. I tried a picture attachment to my email here and that didn't work. Any tips on posting a picture here on the ramblings server? ================= Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:43:55 -0600 To: Larry Tipton , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: illini_grad_90 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Posting Pictures On Ramblings Server ================= Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 16:45:49 -0700 (PDT) To: VCT , From: John Dahms Subject: 58 topp williams card ATT purchased one of these at the sun the sun times show on sat. and got home only to realize I already had one.....card is in the very roughest shape. let me know if interested. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 01:38:50 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Super-Soaker" Guru, I think you got the rare Tom Woodeshick tackling Bradshaw version. Why soak that?

Actually, as a guy always on the lookout for low-grade Bradshaw rookies (I need 5 more ;-))
I wish I had seen this card, it would have been a big bidding war hahaha, I could have gone another 25 cents.
I would have also tried my first soaking experiment...good luck Guru!

OBC Forever,

Brian

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================= Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:05:10 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: mark zentkovich Subject: 68 ryan low grade on sportlots auctions currently at 51.00 fyi if anyone needs this one: http://www.sportlots.com/auction/aucbin/itemdet.tpl?lotnbr=10152780 mark z ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 08:16:44 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: Connor update It's been a while since I've sent out an update on my 18 year old son. To recap: He was admitted to the local hospital on Jan 2nd and later transferred to Yale/New Haven hospital with Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis (ADEM). He left the Neuro =96ICU wing at YNHH on Feb 8th and has been in a rehab facility ever He is scheduled to come home on Saturday 3/29. He has come a long way since mid February when he couldn=92t move his arms or legs and was relying on a breathing tube to keep him alive. He now has full use of his arms and over 50% use of his legs. The doctors are hopeful that he will eventually regain full use of his legs. He has had tutors the past month to help with his school work and is expected to return to high school in late April and will be able to graduate with his class. I=92ve attached some links to some videos and newspaper articles. http://www.myrecordjournal.com/wallingford/wallingfordnews/3654924-129/sheehan-student-on-the-mend.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?vxvlZoZ3JWxc http://www.youtube.com/watch?vfZGMeOzRFiE http://www.nhregister.com/sports/20140320/uconns-napier-gives-assist-to-shabazz-on-wheels (Shabazz Napier is an All-American basketball player for the University of Connecticut which is currently in the sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament.) It=92s been a tough 3 months for our family but it appears he is on his way to a full recovery. Thanks again for your concerns, well wishes, -Bob Reed=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: 25 Mar 2014 19:19:56 -0700 To: From: Subject: FOOT @ Strongsville ================= Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:14:12 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT @ Strongsville ================= Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:47:22 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Jimi Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT @ Strongsville New guy here, Jimi Thayer. I will be there with my 9-year old daughter, Brooklyn. I'll likely have my Indians Sizemore jersey on. I met Mark Talbotand John Dahms there last year, and had a blast. Looking forward to meeting some of you! Sent from my iPad > On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:14 PM, "wwesmyster2@aol.com" wrote: > I am still planning on going. My wife is on call, but if something kills my plans, I'll surely call someone. Short of that, plan on looking for my bright Reds jacket! > Wes > Sent from my LG phone > mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: > > > >RSVPs have been received. It is now anticipated that Mark Talbot, Ron Perry and I, along with my buddy Rocky (see 1962 & 1963 Topps BB on my lists), should arrive at the show around noon on Saturday for the day. John McLaughlin will also attend, although he will already be in the area, visiting his son. Looking forward to meeting Sam Taylor for the first time. > > Who else is planning on attending? I remember Wes Shepard indicating hewas hoping to attend. > > Mike Rich ================= Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:01:34 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Jimi Subject: Introducing myself - New member! Hey folks, I'm the newest member to the OBC fraternal order, and I'm excited about thecardboard A little about myself: I have a gorgeous family with 3 girls - a beautiful wife, Kathy (now 13 years together) and 2 young daughters (Brooklyn and Bailey). I have a very supportive family, and all 3 girls have even helped organize my collection atsome point during their lives. Brooklyn, now 9 years-old (many VCTers will remember when she was born), collects a little, too, enjoying the Indians(especially Nick Swisher) and she likes learning about Babe Ruth (in whichshe and I have started a small collection of his stuff....mainly cheap newer stuff....but hey, she's 9!) :) My collecting goals include lots of things! My top priority right now is my Topps run from 1951 - 2014, but I'm almost complete from 1973 - 2014 now.I also love prewar cards and HOFers. I'm also dabbling a bit in a type collection which hasn't been posted yet, and there are a few other things on my website: https://sites.google.com/site/jimivintagecards/home Hopefully my name will be added to the directory shortly, and I'll have access to some addresses. Once I do, be prepared to get something from me soon. I do have a good 300,000+ sports cards lying around with a few thousandvintage dupes, so hopefully I'll be able to hit your lists in some capacity. I appreciate those who put in a good word for me, and I can't wait to say hello to some of you in person someday soon. Take care! Jimi Thayer Sent from my iPad ================= Date: 26 Mar 2014 05:50:06 -0700 To: From: Subject: Waiver Wire: 1958 - 1960 ================= Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:09:49 -0500 To: Ramblings From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Pick up K Savage auction winnings in Strongville? Is there anyone who can pick up my winning lots from Kevin Savage auctions who can deliver them to me at the National. Everything will be paid for. Right now what I have will fit into an 800 count box. I don't expect to win anything larger from the auction ending tonight. Please reply to me directly as I subscribe to the digest version of ramblings. Thank you Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 07:04:02 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: New on Library Page The following recent SCD articles have been added to the Library page - Oldest Living Heisman Winners and their Cards Wagner, Munson, Moore, and an old fashioned show Review of Golden Age of Baseball and Baseball Gloves George Vrechek ================= Date: 27 Mar 2014 09:56:57 -0700 To: From: Subject: Waiver Wire Pat 2: 1961-1967 ================= Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:44:31 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jimi Subject: My first waiver wire!! 1953 Bowman Color style! Hey folks, I hope I've got the right OBC server here on this one. If not, let me knowand I'll be sure to not make the mistake again. My first ever OBC waiver-wire cards are these best of the best (in the worst kinda way! Ha!) 1953 Bowman Color cards! 1953 Bowman Color: #1 Williams, 13 Zernial, 23 Wehmeier, 31 Dykes, 31 Dykes, 41 White, 47 Garver LMK if you can use any and I'll try and get these out to you tomorrow or Monday. Our PO is only open from 8:30 - 10:30 on Saturday mornings. I plan on going through everyone's lists in the next week or two and sending out what I can. Thanks for letting me part of the OBC family! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:06:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Terry Bradshaw RC "Goes For A Soak" Final result pictures in a couple of days. Although the soak outcome appears to be mixed, it does look more like a Bradshaw RC:) http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/library/Terry%20Goes%20For%20A%20Soak ================= To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:13:15 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Terry Bradshaw RC "Goes For A Soak" Were you able to salvage the 1970 Topps FB that was glued on top of theBradshaw??? -----Original Message----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 6:06 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Terry Bradshaw RC "Goes For A Soak" Final result pictures in a couple of days. Although the soak outcome appears to be mixed, it does look more like a Bradshaw RC:) http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/library/Terry%20Goes%20For%20A%20Soak ================= Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 07:35:11 -0400 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, From: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Terry Bradshaw RC "Goes For A Soak" hahaha sad to report the 1970 Topps FB card did not survive the surgery:) On Mar 29, 2014, at 7:13 AM, mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: > Guru, > Were you able to salvage the 1970 Topps FB that was glued on top of the > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Tipton > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Fri, Mar 28, 2014 6:06 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Terry Bradshaw RC "Goes For A Soak" > Final result pictures in a couple of days. Although the soak outcome appears to be mixed, it does look more like a Bradshaw RC:) > http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/library/Terry%20Goes%20For%20A%20Soak ================= To: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:33:02 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanks for the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cards you have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you've worked on the "popular" sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. Now I'm looking for input on vintage football. My question is how many vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collect football, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. Let's define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quickly figure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers - . If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards . If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you'd have 792 cards . All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer . Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards . Other sets: 1950 Topps (100), Topps 1951 (75), 1962 Post (200), 1970 Kellogg (60), 1971 Kellogg (60), Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards), 1961 Nu-Card (80), Exhibits (60+), 1948 Leaf (98), 1949 Leaf (49), Wonder Bread 1974-6 = 78 cards . If you have the 1894 Mayo and 1935 National Chicle $ets, you don't have to answer any questions. . To make life easy, let's forget Topps inserts, posters, team checklists etc. I'll assume some numbers. . Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks, bucks, decals, Coke caps, and anything that doesn't look like a card . And forget anything after 1980 . Add in any other vintage football I didn't mention (Bell Brand, Bazooka, Bread for Health, OPC, Topps CFL, etc) If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you'd have 11,800 cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issues which will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like you find in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I'll figure out the total number of vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you'd have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plenty of expensive ones yet to go. I'll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonable ball-park number, if you don't want to undo the rubber bands from your sets. George Vrechek PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:04:48 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:14:10 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Set Completion! Well, it's been a long long long journey...but with the arrival of the 4th and last Babe Ruth, the 1933 Goudey Set is done. I listed the set back in February of 2002, now it's put to bed. These guys and probably more helpedalong the way: Austin, Cook, Hattox, Sackmann, Smith, Cummings, Fallen, Talbot, Adkins, Moleta, Rich. Mike Rich provided the biggest hit with the Yellow Ruth back at the Baltimore National...not surprisingly, the Red and then the Green Ruths were the last two cards. It's great to finish this oneoff. For the record, I don't have the Goudey Lajoie...but technically, that should be a 34 (by style)...not that I wouldn't take one. Thanks to everyone for helping along the way. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:20:32 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Congrats Mac! I was just musing today, after myself just passing the 100 card mark on this set, having started it in 2012, wondering how many of us who start this set ever finish it, if anyone! Now I know that at least 1 person has managed it. I wonder how many othersstop just short of the Ruths and Gehrig. Curious, if you know a ballpark $ amount that someone should know they are likely to spend if they are attempting this set. Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:14:10 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Well, it's been a long long long journey...but with the arrival of the 4th and last Babe Ruth, the 1933 Goudey Set is done. I listed the set back in February of 2002, now it's put to bed. These guys and probably more helpedalong the way: Austin, Cook, Hattox, Sackmann, Smith, Cummings, Fallen, Talbot, Adkins, Moleta, Rich. Mike Rich provided the biggest hit with the Yellow Ruth back at the Baltimore National...not surprisingly, the Red and then the Green Ruths were the last two cards. It's great to finish this oneoff. For the record, I don't have the Goudey Lajoie...but technically, that should be a 34 (by style)...not that I wouldn't take one. Thanks to everyone for helping along the way. ================= To: "'richard dingman'" , Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 15:59:42 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! I built my set (minus Lajoie) between 1999-2000, when I was single and had a lot more disposable income. I tried to get decent looking cards in VG range. Usually bought commons in lots and I tried to pay around $8 per card, $25-35 for HOFers. Most I paid was $550 for a PSA 1 but decent looking Yellow Ruth. Got a nice looking but somewhat faded full batting pose Ruth from ex-OBCer Andy Baran for $300, my other two Ruth and two Gehrigs for in the $150-200 Range (3 of which looked ok but were trimmed on Good luck on the set - its my favorite by far From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:21 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Congrats Mac! I was just musing today, after myself just passing the 100 card mark on this set, having started it in 2012, wondering how many of us who start this set ever finish it, if anyone! Now I know that at least 1 person has managed it. I wonder how many others stop just short of the Ruths and Gehrig. Curious, if you know a ballpark $ amount that someone should know they are likely to spend if they are attempting this set. Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:14:10 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Well, it's been a long long long journey...but with the arrival of the 4th and last Babe Ruth, the 1933 Goudey Set is done. I listed the set back in February of 2002, now it's put to bed. These guys and probably more helped along the way: Austin, Cook, Hattox, Sackmann, Smith, Cummings, Fallen, Talbot, Adkins, Moleta, Rich. Mike Rich provided the biggest hit with the Yellow Ruth back at the Baltimore National...not surprisingly, the Red and then the Green Ruths were the last two cards. It's great to finish this one For the record, I don't have the Goudey Lajoie...but technically, that should be a 34 (by style)...not that I wouldn't take one. Thanks to everyone for helping along the way. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7237 - Release Date: 03/23/14 ================= Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 17:09:50 -0400 (EDT) To: obcbobd@gmail.com, brightair@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Content-Language: en there's no way you would find those prices now. amazing what 15 years could do. just look at 52 topps mantle prices now! In a message dated 3/29/2014 3:00:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, obcbobd@gmail.com writes: I built my set (minus Lajoie) between 1999-2000, when I was single and had a lot more disposable income. I tried to get decent looking cards in VG range. Usually bought commons in lots and I tried to pay around $8 per card, $25-35 for HOFers. Most I paid was $550 for a PSA 1 but decent looking Yellow Ruth. Got a nice looking but somewhat faded full batting pose Ruth from ex-OBCer Andy Baran for $300, my other two Ruth and two Gehrigs for in the $150-200 Range (3 of which looked ok but were trimmed on bottom). Good luck on the set =E2=93 its my favorite by far From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:21 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Congrats Mac! I was just musing today, after myself just passing the 100 card mark on this set, having started it in 2012, wondering how many of us who start this set ever finish it, if anyone! Now I know that at least 1 person has managed it. I wonder how many others stop just short of the Ruths and Gehrig. Curious, if you know a ballpark $ amount that someone should know they are likely to spend if they are attempting this set. Richard D To: _obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com) From: _obcmac@hotmail.com_ (mailto:obcmac@hotmail.com) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:14:10 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Set Completion! Well, it's been a long long long journey...but with the arrival of the 4th and last Babe Ruth, the 1933 Goudey Set is done. I listed the set back in February of 2002, now it's put to bed. These guys and probably more helped along the way: Austin, Cook, Hattox, Sackmann, Smith, Cummings, Fallen, Talbot, Adkins, Moleta, Rich. Mike Rich provided the biggest hit with the Yellow Ruth back at the Baltimore National...not surprisingly, the Red and then the Green Ruths were the last two cards. It's great to finish this one off. For the record, I don't have the Goudey Lajoie...but technically, that should be a 34 (by style)...not that I wouldn't take one. Thanks to everyone for helping along the way. Mac&nb sp; No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7237 - Release Date: 03/23/14 Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 21:05:09 -0400 (EDT) From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Just back and leaving again Hi all, I just got back from a 11 day vacation and now I am packing back up for a business I have not had that much time to open much in the way of cards that people were kind of enough to send me. Packages that I picked up from the post office but sadly have not open (I want Gary Mandell Bob D'Angelo Tom Valacak Brandon Wax Wes Shepard No name - Burlington W.I. I am leaving tomorrow, I am so looking forward to next weekend, my travelling will mainly be over then and I get to play with all the cards!! Thank you to the above friends and I will send out a proper Thank You emailonce I open the cards. I will send pay-back as well Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 20:05:04 -0700 To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? Well it's a little higher than I thought but no where near the Baseball card number. I only have Topps Football from 68-79. Most of which are completeso it might be time to head into the fifties and sixties. Maybe even branch out into Philadelphia, Fleer and Bowman. My total is 4894 John Stamper On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:02 AM, hoot_owl1@verizon.net wrote: > I do believe I am somewhere in the neighborhood of 8725. That includes the complete 1962 Post set, the mid-1970 Wonder Bread sets, and other topps, fleer and Philadelphia sets. > I don't have many of the 1950 cards--intentionally, although I have collected the 55 Bowman and 56 Topps set. So that probably accounts for the difference between Ken's count and mine. > peter mead > On 03/29/14, cardclctor@aol.com wrote: > George, > Just using the numbers from your email... I have all but a few Fleer cards, all the Topps, Philly and Kellogg's plus a couple Bowman sets... or about 9700 cards. > Ken M > Sent from my MetroPCS 4G Android device > ------ Original message------ > From: George Vrechek > Date: Sat, 3/29/2014 11:33 AM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; > Subject:[OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? > You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanksfor the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cards you have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you=E2=99ve worked on the =E2=9Cpopular=E2=9D sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. > Now I=E2=99m looking for input on vintage football. My question is howmany vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collectfootball, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. > Let=E2=99 ;s define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quickly figure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers =E2=93 > =B7 If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards > =B7 If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you=E2=99d have 792 cards > =B7 All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer > =B7 Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards > =B7 / span>Other sets: 1950 Topps (100), Topps 1951 (75), 1962Post (200), 1970 Kellogg (60), 1971 Kellogg (60), Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards), 1961 Nu-Card (80), Exhibits (60+), 1948 Leaf (98), 1949 Leaf (49), Wonder Bread 1974-6 78 cards > =B7 If you have the 1894 Mayo and 1935 National Chicle $ets, you don=E2=99t have to answer any questions. > =B7 To make life eas y, let=E2=99s forget Topps inserts, posters, team checklists etc. I=E2=99ll assume some numbers. > =B7 Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks, bucks, decals,Coke caps, and anything that doesn=E2=99t look like a card > =B7 And forget anything after 1980 > =B7 Add in any other vintage football I didn=E2=99t mention(Bell Brand, Bazooka, Bread for Health, OPC, Topps CFL, etc) > If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you=E2=99d have 11,800 cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issues which will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like youfind in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I=E2=99ll figure out the total numberof vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you=E2=99d have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. > I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plentyof expensive ones yet to go. I=E2=99ll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonable ball-park number, if you don=E2=99t want to undo the rubber bands from your sets. > George Vrechek > PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 05:37:41 +0000 (UTC) To: , From: Subject: Begging for Yorks Guys, you might know that I am fanatical about the York Caramel cards. Through all God's grace I have finished the first set (http://www.sgccardregistry.com/set.aspx?cat=1&set=624&userset=4077) and I have 52/60 of the incredibly tough Type 2 cards.(http://www.sgccardregistry.com/set.aspx?cat=1&set=1702&userset=7279) I found one on eBay last week, just lucky since most people do not know there are type 1 and type 2 of these cards. I am begging because I haven't been able to locate any other than this current one since last summer. They are out there somewhere, but I really don't get out much. Here is what I need, if you have one as your type card, I have dups to trade. I will make it worth your while ;) Even a finders fee if you help me acquire hits to this list! If you don't know if you have a type 1 or type 2, tell me which players you have, and I'll share a quick tip on how to determine the difference. #15. CLARENCE MITCHELL #24. JOHNNY MOSTIL #27. TY COBB #30. JESS HAINES #32. MAX CAREY #35. JOE JUDGE #45. PAUL WANER #46. WILLIAM H. TERRY So there is my begging for today, I promise no more tonight! OBC Forever, Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 06:32:33 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? Including my dups................I have 7844. Boy, they add up don't they. Ken Goetsch You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanksfor the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cards you have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you've worked on the "popular" sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. Now I'm looking for input on vintage football. My question is how many vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collect football, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. Let's define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quickly figure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers - =B7 If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards =B7 If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you'd have 792 cards =B7 All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer =B7 Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards =B7 Other sets: 1950 Topps (100), Topps 1951 (75), 1962 Post (200), 1970 Kellogg (60), 1971 Kellogg (60), Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards), 1961 Nu-Card (80), Exhibits (60+), 1948 Leaf (98), 1949 Leaf (49), Wonder Bread 1974-6 78 cards =B7 If you have the 1894 Mayo and 1935 National Chicle $ets, you don't have to answer any questions. =B7 To make life easy, let's forget Topps inserts, posters, team checklists etc. I'll assume some numbers. =B7 Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks, bucks, decals, Coke caps, and anything that doesn't look like a card =B7 And forget anything after 1980 =B7 Add in any other vintage football I didn't mention (Bell Brand, Bazooka, Bread for Health, OPC, Topps CFL, etc) If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you'd have 11,800 cards.There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issues whichwill add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like you find inbaseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I'll figure out the total number of vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you'd have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plentyof expensive ones yet to go. I'll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonable ball-park number, if you don't want to undo the rubber bands from your sets. George Vrechek PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 10:22:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: "Terry Goes For A Soak" (final) http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/media/Terry%20Goes%20For%20A%20Soak/IMG_2838.jpg.html ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:46:04 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: john harrell Subject: Re: Set Completion! Congrats Mac !!!! My 33's are "finished" but are short 3 of the Ruths and the Gerhigs. Still looking to hit the Powerball. Way to go. ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:04:19 +0000 (UTC) To: George Vrechek From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have This is a rough count that may be off by 100+ either way. I also justpicked upa few lots of 48 and 50 Bowmans from the King of Commons onebay. I added them in as well, even though the sets arent listed yet.My football collection has grown big time sincelast years National, when I decided to plunge into all kinds of 50's and 60's sets. Anyway, my rough total is 6227. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Vrechek" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:33:02 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanks for the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cardsyou have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you=E2=99ve worked on the =E2=9Cpopular=E2=9D sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. Now I=E2=99m looking for input on vintage football. My question is how many vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collect football, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. Let=E2=99s define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quickly figure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers =E2=93 =B7 If you have all theregular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards =B7 If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you=E2=99d have 792 cards =B7 All the Fleers from1960-3 amount to 528 cards, in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer =B7 Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards =B7 Other sets: 1950 Topps (100), Topps 1951 (75), 1962 Post (200), 1970 Kellogg (60), 1971 Kellogg (60), Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards), 1961 Nu-Card (80), Exhibits (60+), 1948 Leaf (98), 1949 Leaf (49), Wonder Bread 1974-6 78 cards =B7 If you have the 1894 Mayo and 1935 National Chicle $ets, you don=E2=99t have to answer any questions. =B7 To make life easy, let=E2=99s forget Topps inserts, posters, team checklists etc. I=E2=99ll assume some numbers. =B7 Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks, bucks, decals, Coke caps, and anything that doesn=E2=99t look like a card =B7 And forget anythingafter =B7 Add in any other vintage football I didn=E2=99t mention (Bell Brand, Bazooka, Bread for Health, OPC, Topps CFL, etc) If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you=E2=99d have 11,800 cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issueswhich will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like you find in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I=E2=99ll figure out the total number of vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you=E2=99d have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plenty of expensive ones yet to go. I=E2=99ll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonableball-park number, if you don=E2=99t want to undo the rubber bands from your George Vrechek PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 14:39:04 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: JEdward@aol.com Subject: My Strongsville Show report I don't go to many card shows anymore, but I do like to make it to the Ohio Sports Collectors Convention in Strongsville. It works out well for me because our son, Jason lives in Cleveland, so my wife and I can do a little family visiting and I can do a little baseball card visiting. I managed to get in a couple hours Friday afternoon at the show before Jason got home from work and Saturday I went to the card show while my wife visited with Jason and she hit the Westside Market. My main goal was the 1965 Topps set, with 29 left. I did manage to find ten cards with several coming from bargain boxes. I would have liked to have added a Clemente, Rose, Mays or Mantle type card but I got derailed right off the bat when a dealer (Wayne Johnson) made an offer on a group of '59 Topps that I couldn't turn down... musial, aparicio, aaron, and elston howard all in much better condition then most of what I have. That took a good chunk out of my stash and left me with searching bargain boxes for my remaining show time. A couple of the dealers had "OBC" boxes including Uncle Dick, where I pulled nine 1953 Bowmans including a couple high numbers. Another great thing about this show was meeting three OBC members for the first time. The first one I came across was Wes Shepard and his son, Nolan. A little later Jimi Thayer introduced himself, and I met Sam Taylor a little later after the FOOT group arrived. As I roamed around the show the "S" word kept coming up... SNOW!!! 6-8 inches supposed to be coming starting around 4PM. It was after noon and still no FOOTs. Did they bow out because of the weather? That certainly would have been understandable, so I called Mike Rich's cell phone. They're coming, just running late. Mark Talbot was the first one I spotted. After the usual "howdy does" Mark handed me a Detroit Pistons-Golden State Warriors program from Feb. 24, 2014 along with four 1970 Topps cards including Pete Rose. A few minutes later I came across Mike Rich. Another OBC handshake with five 1973 Topps cards added to one of my sets that is just sort of lingering. Finally Ron Perry appears with hand extended thrusting a '72 high number Orioles team card at me. If I had any money left I was going to look for some '72s, so this card took care of that. The last one I met was Mike's buddy Rocky whom I believe I met a few years ago at another FOOT Sometime around 2:30 my wife Ranaye showed up from her adventures and we beat a hasty retreat back to Toledo just ahead of the weather. I hope everyone made it home OK. Thanks to follow on the thanks server. John McLaughlin ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:41:47 -0500 To: George Vrechek , From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have At the risk of demolishing your average, I will give you the amount of pre-1981 football cards I have. 3. When you come asking about basketball and hockey, I have 1 and 0. Feel free to lose my totals somehow. Greg (yaz) On 3/29/2014 10:33 AM, George Vrechek wrote: > You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. > Thanks for the responses to my prior question about how many vintage > baseball cards you have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and > 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I > referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other > sets are there to collect once you've worked on the "popular" sets. > The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, > unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. > Now I'm looking for input on vintage football. My question is how many > _vintage_ football _singles_ do you have? I realize not all of us > collect football, or we may have started collecting football > relatively late in life, not unusual. > Let's define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quickly > figure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your > want list from these numbers -- > ·If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count > 7,557 cards > ·If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you'd have 792 cards > ·All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, in the 1970s there > were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer > ·Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards > ·Other sets: 1950 Topps (100), Topps 1951 (75), 1962 Post (200), 1970 > Kellogg (60), 1971 Kellogg (60), Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards), 1961 > Nu-Card (80), Exhibits (60+), 1948 Leaf (98), 1949 Leaf (49), Wonder > Bread 1974-6 = 78 cards > ·If you have the 1894 Mayo and 1935 National Chicle $ets, you don't > have to answer any questions. > ·To make life easy, let's forget Topps inserts, posters, team > checklists etc. I'll assume some numbers. > ·Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks, bucks, decals, Coke caps, > and anything that doesn't look like a card > ·And forget anything after 1980 > ·Add in any other vintage football I didn't mention (Bell Brand, > Bazooka, Bread for Health, OPC, Topps CFL, etc) > If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you'd have 11,800 > cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local > issues which will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything > like you find in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a > plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I'll figure out the > total number of vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If > you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you'd have > just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. > I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with > plenty of expensive ones yet to go. I'll let you know the results of > the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any > reasonable ball-park number, if you don't want to undo the rubber > bands from your sets. > George Vrechek > PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= To: larrytipton@windstream.net, Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:02:12 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Terry Goes For A Soak" (final) ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:25:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: How Many Football Cards? I started collecting football cards in 2012 at the National Convention in Baltimore. So it looks like I have been busy buying football cards the past 2.5 Topps: 7,473 Post: 194 Philly: 732 Fleer: 329 Bowman: 521 Total: 9,249 ================= To: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:43:39 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: '33 Goudey variation?? Has anyone noticed '33 Goudey #200 and #204? The back of mine say Hallahan& Stephenson respectively but the fronts are the same picture and say Hallahan. Is there a #204 that has a Stephenson image? Strange. Gord ================= To: "'Gord Ellis'" , Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:17:28 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? That sounds cool. My #204 has Stephenson on the front From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gord Ellis Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:44 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? Has anyone noticed '33 Goudey #200 and #204? The back of mine say Hallahan & Stephenson respectively but the fronts are the same picture and say Hallahan. Is there a #204 that has a Stephenson image? Strange. Gord No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7237 - Release Date: 03/23/14 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:20:31 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com" , From: mark zentkovich Subject: obc meet this week thanks to fellow member of Cardinal Nation, Mike Jackson, for a nice meet this we enjoyed some good barbecue , and cardboard conversation at the Germantown looking forward to another meet in the coming weeks and a redbirds game when he comes back to town. Mike hits my 73 cardinal list with Mr Spinks, and some other newer cards mentioned obc is great! mark zentkovich ================= Date: 30 Mar 2014 19:55:20 -0700 To: From: Subject: NCAA is over for me ================= Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 00:18:26 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: How many football do you have 3234 I have 53 bowans, 58 topps, 63 topps 64-67 Philadelphia Gum card finished and need 3 cards since the beginning of time to finish the 62 Post set and i am working thru OBC on 1970-74 topps ================= Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 21:51:32 -0700 To: George Vrechek From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? I count 6995. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:33 AM, "George Vrechek" wrote: > You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanksfor the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cards you have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you=E2=99ve worked on the =E2=9Cpopular=E2=9D sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. > Now I=E2=99m looking for input on vintage football. My question is howmany vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collectfootball, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. > Let=E2=99s define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quickly figure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers =E2=93 > =B7 If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards > =B7 If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you=E2=99d have 792 cards > =B7 All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer > =B7 Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards > =B7 Other sets: 1950 Topps (100), Topps 1951 (75), 1962 Post (200), 1970 Kellogg (60), 1971 Kellogg (60), Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards), 1961 Nu-Card (80), Exhibits (60+), 1948 Leaf (98), 1949 Leaf (49), Wonder Bread 1974-6 78 cards > =B7 If you have the 1894 Mayo and 1935 National Chicle $ets, you don=E2=99t have to answer any questions. > =B7 To make life easy, let=E2=99s forget Topps inserts, posters, team checklists etc. I=E2=99ll assume some numbers. > =B7 Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks, bucks, decals,Coke caps, and anything that doesn=E2=99t look like a card > =B7 And forget anything after 1980 > =B7 Add in any other vintage football I didn=E2=99t mention(Bell Brand, Bazooka, Bread for Health, OPC, Topps CFL, etc) > If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you=E2=99d have 11,800 cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issues which will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like youfind in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I=E2=99ll figure out the total numberof vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayo and National Chicle football cards, you=E2=99d have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. > I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plentyof expensive ones yet to go. I=E2=99ll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonable ball-park number, if you don=E2=99t want to undo the rubber bands from your sets. > George Vrechek > PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:25:49 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? My 33G #204 has Stephenson on front and back. Cool wrong back discovery, On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Bob Donaldson wrote: > Gord > That sounds cool. My #204 has Stephenson on the front > Bob > *From:* OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gord Ellis > *Sent:* Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:44 PM > *To:* obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Ramblings] '33 Goudey variation?? > Has anyone noticed '33 Goudey #200 and #204? The back of mine say > Hallahan & Stephenson respectively but the fronts are the same picture and > say Hallahan. Is there a #204 that has a Stephenson image? Strange. Gord > ------------------------------ > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4336 / Virus Database: 3722/7237 - Release Date: 03/23/14 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ================= Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:14:06 -0400 (EDT) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: ignorance is bliss while learning more about the milton bradley multi sport set put out in 1968 by topps, it turns out that 4 of the cards in my 68 baseball collection are and not from the regular topps version. the MB version has a brighter and lighter color yellow on the back, and sometimes you can see a white line near one of the front borders. in any case, i am now looking for reqular versions of the following cards, hopefully in in VG or better condition (one of my better looking sets): 110 Aaron 113 Tigers RC 130 Short 195 Pepitone if anyone has any help with these, please let me know. also, if anyone is collecting the milton bradley set, these would be available to trade. i will also be checking my 67 topps football set for the same issue. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 20:52:22 +0000 From: Subject: 1961 high quest Hello All, I am getting close. Any help? 1961 topps any conditions 415(aaron),417(marichal),,531,541,554, 559,569, 571, 572, 576, 577, 578(mantle), 580, 584,586 1961 topps#5,6,11,15,16,24,29,32,34,48,),59,60,62,75,76,77,81,82,85,96,101,103,105,108, 96,506,513,150(mays missing paper),2(Maris missing corner piece),517(mccovey),536,555,557,563,567 Also have 1962 highs for trade Anthony Arbeeny General Manager HYATT REGENCY BETHESDA One Bethesda Metro Center, Bethesda, MD 20814, USA T: + 1 301.657.6441 F: +1 301.657.6440 E: Anthony.Arbeeny@hyatt.com [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT: Please consider the environment before printing this Follow us on: [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:DC4663D3-FD69-4D81-827C-EBE71D808096] [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:E5D5D447-4F32-488F-B662-407D5AF03F60] [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:6F173D14-3489-4866-990B-E3AC0F4BF1B9] [Description: cid:image015.jpg@01CE50CB.BD800530] [Description: cid:image016.jpg@01CE50CB.BD800530] From: Subject: Strongsville show ================= Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:36:24 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Tardy post ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:33:23 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? Great! I was still counting up my baseball and not I need to stop to countFB??? For years, I had considered myself a FB specialist, but I know Bob Swick (he now is founder and editor of Gridiron Greats FB magazine). His FB collection surpasses mine. A quick thumbnail is below by George's comments: Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 11:33 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] So how many vintage FOOTBALL cards do you have anyway? You knew it was just a matter of time before I bothered you again. Thanks for the responses to my prior question about how many vintage baseball cardsyou have. 31 OBCers responded and had between 4,000 and 31,000 vintage baseball cards with the average being 16,900. I referenced that finding in my SCD article which explored what other sets are there to collect once you=E2=99ve worked on the =E2=9Cpopular=E2=9D sets. The article will be on the OBC library page once it runs in SCD, unless anyone wants a copy of it now. Let me know. Now I=E2=99m looking for input on vintage football. My question is how many vintage football singles do you have? I realize not all of us collect football, or we may have started collecting football relatively late in life, not unusual. Let& #8217;s define vintage again as pre-1981. If you are trying to quicklyfigure out some numbers here is some info, so you can subtract your want list from these numbers =E2=93 =B7 If you have all the regular Topps sets from 1955 to 1980, I count 7,557 cards - Complete =B7 If you had all the Philadelphia cards 1964-7, you=E2=99d have 792 cards - Complete =B7 & nbsp; All the Fleers from 1960-3 amount to 528 cards, (complete, but George did not count the 1963 checklist or the 1961 Wallet cards. I have the checklist, but only a couple type cards of the wallet cards.) in the 1970s there were another 568 oddball cards by Fleer (have 26 of 28 72 Quiz, 73 Scouting Report, 74-75 HOF, 76-80 Team Action sets, need 4 1968 Big League signs, and have the 74 Big League Sign set). =B7 Bowmans from 1948 to 1955 are 1,068 cards - still missing #99 in 1952 Bowman Large. Others complete =B7 Other sets: 1950 Topps (100) - still need 11, Topps 1951 (75) - complete, 1962 Post (200) - complete, 1970 Kellogg (60) complete, 1971 Kellogg (60) complete, Kahns 1959-1964 (288 cards) (only have 5 total), 1961 Nu-Card (80) complete, Exhibits (60+) (only have 12), 1948 Leaf (98) (tough set have 73 of 98), 1949 Leaf (49) (damn gremlin - need 1), Wonder Bread1974-6 78 cards (complete, plus some Town Talk and Blank sponsor cards). =B7 If you have the 1894 Mayo (just a type card and A REPRINT SET) and 1935 National Chicle $ets (need 11 of 36), you don=E2=99t have toanswer any questions. =B7 To make life easy, let=E2=99s forget Topps inserts (have most, but many pre-1968s are very tough), posters complete), team checklists (complete, but variations) etc. I=E2=99ll assume some numbers. =B7 Forget variations, Police sets, matchbooks (fun sets, makingprogress), bucks (complete), decals (not sure what these are, unless they are the Nu Card and Fleer stickers from 1960 era), Coke caps (Gary Mandell and Don Rice have more, but I have thousand +), and anything that doesn=E2=99t look lik e a card =B7 And forget anything after 1980 =B7 Add in any other vintage football I didn=E2=99t mention (Bell Brand (just a type card or 2), Bazooka ( no 59s and only a few 71s), Bread for Health (NONE), OPC (complete), Topps CFL (complete), etc) Other issues - Berk Ross (most FB), Wheaties (all FB), Mayrose Cardinals (need 6), Lake to Lake Packers (just a few), Tresler Comet Bengals (have 9), 1963 Steelers IDL (have 7), 1979 & 1980 Stop N Go (need 30 combined), 1952Parkhurst CFL (have 60 of 100), 1962 & 1963 Post CFL (need 20 of 297), 1980 Buffalo Bills Bells (complete), 1976 Cranes Discs (complete), 1976 Popsicle (have both NFC & AFC sets) and a few assorted team issues. If you had had all the cards I mentioned so far, you=E2=99d have 11,800 cards. There are other vintage football cards which tend to be local issueswhich will add to the eventual maximum totals, but not anything like you find in baseball with 110,000 vintage baseball cards and a plethora of expensive cards from the tobacco era. I=E2=99ll figure out the total number of vintage football cards; my guess is under 15,000. If you had the 71 Mayoand National Chicle football cards, you=E2=99d have just about everything from the beginning of time until 1948. I counted about 9,700 vintage football cards in my collection with plenty of expensive ones yet to go. I=E2=99ll let you know the results of the poll. You can respond to me directly or via Ramblings. Give me any reasonableball-park number, if you don=E2=99t want to undo the rubber bands from your George Vrechek PS Basketball is next and the numbers are much smaller and easier. ================= Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 20:55:58 -0700 To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post Wes and all Peter Mead did a great job providing info on the Post/Jello sets. It's in the OBC Library. John Stamper On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:36 PM, "wwesmyster2@aol.com" wrote: > Sorry so late. Strongsville, Ohio show was supreme! I met John McLaughlin, as he hands me a 64 and 53 hit. Jimi Thayer hands me a stack of 69s, withsemi hi and high. Mike Rich shows my youngest boy, Nolan, the OBC hand shake, with numerous hits to include the 53 bowman Howie Foxx. Also met up with Mark Talbot and Ron Perry. Very sorry, dont remember what they gave me, got mixed in with all the pickups:( > Obviously, also met up with Sam Taylor. Wonderful Tigers party at his house! Picked up a crease free 52 Topps there. What a wonderful time, loved being able to share moments with the group, and especially my boy. I loved how he just sat and listened to one of Mark's uncanny trading stories of years past. Nolan is now a card nut, thanks to the OBC guys we met up with, andJD > I picked up a motherload of 63s and 53 bowmans. Also, a bunch of 61-63 post and jello. I learned a bit from Mike and the guys, but if anyone has a little insight on those sets, price, history, etc. I'd be truly greatful. I just dont know quite as much about them as I do Topps and Bowman. > All in all, the best time ever, minus the National of course. Great meeting Mike and Jimi's friends too. > Thank you Sam, Mike, Jimi, Ron, John, Mark, and OBC! > Wes > Sent from my LG phone ================= Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:04:38 -0700 To: Ramblings OBC From: Stamper Subject: A pair of Thanks I just returned from a long weekend down in San Diego visiting Karyn's sister and her Dad and watching the Padres opening Night. Always a treat to catch an opening Day/Night game. The Padres had a block party around the Ballpark. A tribute to Jerry Coleman, a flyover, salute to Americas finest and three Navy Seal skydivers. And ended the game with a come from behind win. Met up with a few friends of mine who went down for the game as well. Two envelopes waiting for me on my return home. Marshall West sent a trio of 64's and TJ Valacak paid his NCAA Debt with 4 Basketballers. Much appreciated John Stamper ================= Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 00:34:31 -0400 To: Stamper From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Tardy post