================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 05:34:52 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings From: Rick Subject: 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card (Poor) High Number! End time: Feb 2, 2014, 7:22:17 PM PST View item: 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card (Poor) High Number! Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 09:59:12 -0500 (EST) To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card (Poor) High ... Content-Language: en my experience has been that almost all ungraded 52 mantles with very short auction periods are fake PSA 1s are going for $5,000 now. why wouldn't someone spend $100 to have this graded to get $1,000 more, unless they thought/knew it was a bogus buyer beware! In a message dated 2/1/2014 7:34:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com writes: End time: Feb 2, 2014, 7:22:17 PM PST View item: _1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle Rookie Card (Poor) High Number!_ (http://pages.ebay.com/link/?navitem.view&id171228444943&globalIDEBAY-US) Sent from my iPad Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 11:12:52 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( We had 33 poolers, so I needed one name to fill the 100th spot. I had my wife pick a random # and the extra spot went to Earl Kilbourn, so he has 4 squares. Then I used 10 pennies with the ones digit of each year 0-9 to mix up and pick numbers. I have removed my self from suspicion this year with 6-1, 0-8, and Doesn't look like inbounds for Sean this year... but I have won twice in the 13, so I can't complain. One of our all-time losers :) Gene-o has a 4-0, so there is hope there. The thing I noticed was that new guy Brandon Wax has a 7-4! That would be fun! So, enjoy the game keep the link handy and dust off those dupes boxes. And, some of the players pull cards during the game, so everyone make sure your want lists are fresh! Lets get that 5000'th card in the mail! Go OBC! http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm ================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 09:55:51 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Wax Subject: Who collects miscut cards? I was scanning through want lists last week and noticed one or 2 OBCers collect miscut cards. Since then i've come accross a few, but cant rememberwho was collecting them. Anybodywant them or know who does? Brandon Wax ================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 10:10:27 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Wax Subject: Re: Who collects miscut cards? ok great. Ive got a few. Im not sure if they're exactly what you're after, but you can see part of the other card on the edges.I'll go through my stack this weekend and see if i can find a few more and try to send them next week. Dr. Brandon Wax The Eye Center of Denham Springs 206 Pete's Hwy Denham Springs, LA 70726 http://www.drbrandonwax.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 11:46:57 -0800 (PST) To: Supreme Commander , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( Tell your wife Thanks, & the check is in the mail!! "we keep what we give away!" From: Supreme Commander To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 11:12 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( We had 33 poolers, so I needed one name to fill the 100th spot. I had my wife pick a random # and the extra spot went to Earl Kilbourn, so he has 4 squares. Then I used 10 pennies with the ones digit of each year 0-9 to mix up and pick the numbers. I have removed my self from suspicion this year with 6-1, 0-8, and 5-8! Doesn't look like inbounds for Sean this year... but I have won twice in the previous 13, so I can't complain. One of our all-time losers :) Gene-o has a 4-0, so there is hope there. The thing I noticed was that new guy Brandon Wax has a 7-4! That would be fun! So, enjoy the game keep the link handy and dust off those dupes boxes. And, some of the players pull cards during the game, so everyone make sure your want lists are fresh! Lets get that 5000'th card in the mail! Go OBC! http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm ================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 14:08:07 -0800 To: "" From: Geordie Calvert Subject: The David Kolenda Memorial set: short ramble and help needed Hello, all. Longtime members knew and remember David Kolenda with great fondness. He has been gone several years now, but while he was alive he was a great OBC member and a great friend to those who knew him. I had the pleasure of meeting him in person during Vegas gatherings and spoke with him often via chat and Back in the day, many of us used to gather nightly in a chat room via ICQ. Cardboard flew, .wav files were played (who remember's Barry Clesh's eeeeeeeeeeee.wav?) and lots of laughs were had. One night we were talking about our favorite and least favorite vintage sets. I mentioned that I thought the1970 set was the ugliest of all time - still do, actually. Well, within a week I got a box in the mail with a substantial starter lot of 1970 baseball, courtesy of David. I called him up and he had a nice little laugh at my expense. So I threw it up on my wantlist, but made it a very low priority. As the old-timers know, David was diagnosed with cancer and passed away in September 2007. After he died I renamed my '70 set the "David Kolenda Memorial Set" so I would always remember his friendship, his generosity and his wit. Which brings me today. Wes Shepard hit my .70 list yesterday with nosebleeder Dave Duncan, leaving a mere eight cards to go. I would like to ask for OBC's help in finishing the set, and then it is my intent to auction the setoff on eBay with 100% of the proceeds to be donated to the American CancerSociety in David's name. I will either sell it under my account or get in touch with Rick Probstein or PWCC and see if they would consign it for me without charging their normal commission. Both companies get a LOT of eyeballs on their auctions and might enhance the ending price. I have been kicking the idea around for the past few years and think it is time to do more than think about it. Here is what is left. I will check for gremlins, but I'm pretty sure I did that a few years back and the list below is current. 300 594 650 654 660 669 712 713 Thanks so much. ================= To: Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 19:14:33 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: 2014 OBC-AC election It is time to elect the 2014 OBC-AC and I am the Elections Commissioner. Having been a past OBC-AC member, I recommend you consider donating a little time to help maintain OBC as the best on line trading club and gain some insight on the behind the scenes aspect of running our group. If you are not comfortable nominating/voting for 7 members, feel free to nominate 2 or 3. I will send out a confirmation email to each nominee unless the nominee acknowledges independently that they accept nomination beforehand. All votes and nominee acceptance must be received by 2/15. A full set of rules can be found on the "Rules of Conduct" link on the OBC web Your 2013 OBC-AC has been Geordie Calvert, Tom Housley, Ken Morganti, Rich Niessen, John Stamper, George Vrechek, Geno Wagner, and Mac Wubben Off my soap box now....here are the rules. Good luck to everyone seeking . Nominations - Each year from February 1 thru February 14, the Commissioner will accept nominations to be a candidate in simultaneous elections for (a) "OBC AC Facilitator" and (b) "OBC AC member". A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions, however the successful candidate for the position of OBC AC Facilitator will not be allowed to serve as an OBC AC member. In this circumstance, a seat on the OBC AC will fall to the eighth placed nominee on the OBC AC members ballot. Self nominations are not allowed. Inactive members are not allowed to be nominated nor serve on the OBCAC. . Candidate qualifications - Anyone who has been in OBC for at least three years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. . Acceptance of nomination - All nominations must be approved of by the nominee. . OBCAC Voting Member Election - The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the . OBCAC Facilitator Election - The member with the highest number of votes in the election for OBC AC Facilitator will serve as OBC AC . Election results - The Commissioner shall release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. "OBC AC Facilitator" (Please vote for one) "OBC AC member" (Please vote for seven) Feel free to contact me with any questions. Mark Holland This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 17:40:12 -0800 (PST) To: Supreme Commander , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( Sweet=E2=A6I also have a chance on the pouched PAT with 7-6! Funnything is that my hometown Broncos are in the dance, but I won't be watching it (at least the first half). Being a Bears fan, I'll be skiing allday and have Copper Mountain all to myself!! Take Care, > From: Supreme Commander >To: OBC Ramblings >Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 9:12 AM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( >We had 33 poolers, so I needed one name to fill the 100th spot. I had my wife >pick a random # and the extra spot went to Earl Kilbourn, so he has 4 squares. >Then I used 10 pennies with the ones digit of each year 0-9 to mix up and pick the >numbers. I have removed my self from suspicion this year with 6-1, 0-8, and 5-8! >Doesn't look like inbounds for Sean this year... but I have won twice in the previous >13, so I can't complain. One of our all-time losers :) Gene-o has a 4-0, so there is >hope there. The thing I noticed was that new guy Brandon Wax has a 7-4! That >would be fun! > So, enjoy the game keep the link handy and dust off those dupes boxes. And, >some of the players pull cards during the game, so everyone make sure your >want lists are fresh! Lets get that 5000'th card in the mail! >Go OBC! >http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm ================= To: Geordie Calvert , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 21:37:22 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The David Kolenda Memorial set: short ramble "I will either sell it under my account or get in touch with Rick Probstein or PWCC and see if they would consign it for me without charging their normal commission. Both companies get a LOT of eyeballs on their auctions and might enhance the ending price." And at least 1 of them seems to have no problem with shill bidding, so we could really enhance the ending price. ;) In any case, I can add #650 so you can scratch that one off. Thought I had #300 as well but can't find it so I may have traded it out. I'll check alsoif any of the others show up in the stuff I picked up today, but that might take a couple days. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 14:08:07 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The David Kolenda Memorial set: short ramble and help Hello, all. Longtime members knew and remember David Kolenda with great fondness. He has been gone several years now, but while he was alive he was a great OBC member and a great friend to those who knew him. I had the pleasure of meeting him in person during Vegas gatherings and spoke with him often via chat and Back in the day, many of us used to gather nightly in a chat room via ICQ. Cardboard flew, .wav files were played (who remember's Barry Clesh's eeeeeeeeeeee.wav?) and lots of laughs were had. One night we were talking about our favorite and least favorite vintage sets. I mentioned that I thought the1970 set was the ugliest of all time - still do, actually. Well, within a week I got a box in the mail with a substantial starter lot of 1970 baseball, courtesy of David. I called him up and he had a nice little laugh at my expense. So I threw it up on my wantlist, but made it a very low priority. As the old-timers know, David was diagnosed with cancer and passed away in September 2007. After he died I renamed my '70 set the "David Kolenda Memorial Set" so I would always remember his friendship, his generosity and his wit. Which brings me today. Wes Shepard hit my .70 list yesterday with nosebleeder Dave Duncan, leaving a mere eight cards to go. I would like to ask for OBC's help in finishing the set, and then it is my intent to auction the setoff on eBay with 100% of the proceeds to be donated to the American CancerSociety in David's name. I will either sell it under my account or get in touch with Rick Probstein or PWCC and see if they would consign it for me without charging their normal commission. Both companies get a LOT of eyeballs on their auctions and might enhance the ending price. I have been kicking the idea around for the past few years and think it is time to do more than think about it. Here is what is left. I will check for gremlins, but I'm pretty sure I did that a few years back and the list below is current. 300 594 650 654 660 669 712 713 Thanks so much. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:01:07 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( Thanks Sean. Looks like John Stamper is the early favorite. 6-4, 0-6, and 7-0 are threepretty good squares. Good luck everybody. I'll be watching the game at the hospital with my son. Quick update: Connor's breathing tube was removed on Thursday. He still can't move his legs yet and has some fungal pneumonia in his lungs but it is clearing up. His breathing is getting stronger each day and he was able toactually call a couple of his friends by himself today which is great. We're hoping he can move out of the ICU and into a regular room the beginningof next week. Then once he's able to start moving his legs he'll probablybe moved to a rehab facility. It was a good week but he still has a long way to go. I want to thank those who prayed and offered support to Connor,myself, and our family. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: seanobc@comcast.net Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 11:12:52 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Super numbers are up! The fix is OUT, not in :( We had 33 poolers, so I needed one name to fill the 100th spot. I had my wife pick a random # and the extra spot went to Earl Kilbourn, so he has 4 squares. Then I used 10 pennies with the ones digit of each year 0-9 to mix up and pick the numbers. I have removed my self from suspicion this year with 6-1, 0-8, and 5-8! Doesn't look like inbounds for Sean this year... but I have won twice in the previous 13, so I can't complain. One of our all-time losers :) Gene-o has a 4-0, so there is hope there. The thing I noticed was that new guy Brandon Wax has a 7-4! That would be fun! So, enjoy the game keep the link handy and dust off those dupes boxes. And, some of the players pull cards during the game, so everyone make sure your want lists are fresh! Lets get that 5000'th card in the mail! Go OBC! http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 12:31:02 -0500 (EST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The David Kolenda Memorial set: short ramble and help nee... Content-Language: en i meet Dave a year or two before he passed. Can anyone tell the story about a V golf tournement in which Dave hit someone and the incounter that pursued. Anyone who tried to tell the story is laughing by the end and it never was finished. Or was it funny because they were there. In a message dated 2/1/2014 4:08:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, dodgergeo@comcast.net writes: Hello, all. Longtime members knew and remember David Kolenda with great fondness. He has been gone several years now, but while he was alive he was a great OBC member and a great friend to those who knew him. I had the pleasure of meeting him in person during Vegas gatherings and spoke with him often viachat and phone. Back in the day, many of us used to gather nightly in a chat room via ICQ. Cardboard flew, .wav files were played (who remember's Barry Clesh's eeeeeeeeeeee.wav?) and lots of laughs were had. One night we were talking about our favorite and least favorite vintage sets. I mentioned that I thought the 1970 set was the ugliest of all time - still do, actually. Well, within week I got a box in the mail with a substantial starter lot of 1970 baseball, courtesy of David. I called him up and h e had a nice little laugh my expense. So I threw it up on my wantlist, but made it a very low As the old-timers know, David was diagnosed with cancer and passed away in September 2007. After he died I renamed my '70 set the "David Kolenda Memorial Set" so I would always remember his friendship, his generosity and Which brings me today. Wes Shepard hit my .70 list yesterday with nosebleeder Dave Duncan, leaving a mere eight cards to go. I would like to ask OBC's help in finishing the set, and then it is my intent to auction the set off on eBay with 100% of the proceeds to be donated to the American Cancer Society in David's name. I will either sell it under my account or get in touch with Rick Probstein or PWCC and see if they would consign it for me without charging their normal commission. Both companies get a LOT of eyeballs on their auctions and might enhance the ending price. I have been kicking the idea around for the past few years and think it is time to do more than think about it. Here is what is left. I will check for gremlins, but I'm pretty sure I did that a few years back and the list below is current. 300 594 650 654 660 669 712 713 Thanks so much. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:57:34 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: ready for kick-off! :) Just so you guys know, I won't be updating after each quarter... I'm at a party w/o real easy acess. If you aren't sure, I'll post all four winners when I home. Good luck everyone! ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 17:08:27 -0500 To: Supreme Commander From: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ready for kick-off! :) I already forgot......who do we complain to again about our numbers????? Sent from my iPad On Feb 2, 2014, at 4:57 PM, "Supreme Commander" wrote: > Just so you guys know, I won't be updating after each quarter... I'm at aparty > w/o real easy acess. If you aren't sure, I'll post all four winners when I get > home. Good luck everyone! > Sean ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:09:14 -0800 (PST) To: Supreme Commander , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ready for kick-off! :) Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Supreme Commander To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2014 9:57 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ready for kick-off! :) Just so you guys know, I won't be updating after each quarter... I'm at a party w/o real easy acess. If you aren't sure, I'll post all four winners when I get home. Good luck everyone! ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 16:59:17 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Half time Way to go, TJ!! ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:14:15 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: 2-pointer And the 2-point conversion wins some cardboard for Bob Reed!! ================= To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 21:39:41 -0500 (EST) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2-pointer And costs me in another pool! -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sun, Feb 2, 2014 9:14 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2-pointer And the 2-point conversion wins some cardboard for Bob Reed!! ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 19:00:48 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Toad hops in Looks like Brian Lindholme completes the lineup of Super Bowl pool winners. Congrats to all 4 winners. Meanwhile, my futility continues...... ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 03:22:10 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC , Glenn From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Toad hops in Another way to look at it is that 4 of the nicest guys won , while 29 of the nicest guys didn't ;)
Congrats to my Seahawks too!
OBC Forever,

Brian

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================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:04:31 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! I was at my "best mans" house (from 28 years ago) and not only did I win our first quarter, he runs a big 200 square money pool that pays on every score change, and he had 2-0! It was crazy all night. His wife would have won $100 had denver not gone for 2. Just a nutty pool-night! I have already had complaints that the winners have tough lists... I have a couple silly things I do, like leader cards, and topps WS cards from the 60's and 70's... so I'm going to add those to my wantlist. Maybe the other winners should see if they can do the Thanks again for a great time. I have notification of 2 hits already, so only 107 to go to get to 5000! Let me know what you send out, and give me 24 hourson those other lists :) Go OBC! ================= To: , Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:21:01 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! The winners were: Sean McGowan, TJ Valacak, Bob Reed, Brian Lindholme The webpage is at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm Go (to bed) OBC! ----- Original Message ----- From: LUURSCJG@aol.com To: seanobc@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! could i have the winners I for the life of me cant remember score exceptfirst and last In a message dated 2/2/2014 10:04:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, seanobc@comcast.net I was at my "best mans" house (from 28 years ago) and not only did I win first quarter, he runs a big 200 square money pool that pays on every score change, and he had 2-0! It was crazy all night. His wife would have won had denver not gone for 2. Just a nutty pool-night! I have already had that the winners have tough lists... I have a couple silly things I do,like leader cards, and topps WS cards from the 60's and 70's... so I'm goingto those to my wantlist. Maybe the other winners should see if they can do Thanks again for a great time. I have notification of 2 hits already, so only 107 to go to get to 5000! Let me know what you send out, and give me 24 hours those other lists :) Go OBC! ================= Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 23:31:55 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: OBC Rules! Content-Language: en As many of you know, I ran a playoff pool among several card collecting groups I belong to. Our very own Matt Yudt and Brian Lindholme finished in 1st and 3rd respectively, and Brian's son John took 2nd place. Bob Reed finished in 5th, just behind the 4th place prize winner. hope to get a lot more participants next year! now, on to spring training! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 2/2/2014 10:21:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, seanobc@comcast.net writes: The winners were: Sean McGowan, TJ Valacak, Bob Reed, Brian Lindholme The webpage is at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm Go (to bed) OBC! ----- Original Message ----- From: _LUURSCJG@aol.com_ (mailto:LUURSCJG@aol.com) To: _seanobc@comcast.net_ (mailto:seanobc@comcast.net) Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! could i have the winners I for the life of me cant remember score except first and last In a message dated 2/2/2014 10:04:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, _seanobc@comcast.net_ (mailto:seanobc@comcast.net) writes: I was at my "best mans" house (from 28 years ago) and not only did I win first quarter, he runs a big 200 square money pool that pays on every score change, and he had 2-0! It was crazy all night. His wife would have won had denver not gone for 2. Just a nutty pool-night! I have already had that the winners have tough lists... I have a couple silly things I do, like Orioles leader cards, and topps WS cards from the 60's and 70's... so I'm going to those to my wantlist. Maybe the other winners should see if they can do Thanks again for a great time. I have notification of 2 hits already, so only 107 to go to get to 5000! Let me know what you send out, and give me 24 hours on those other lists :) Go OBC! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:26:30 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! Congrats to the winners, this year's squares were crazy. Imagine the Vegas sports books once that safety was on the board! 2-0 as the first score blows up just about everything, regular AND prop betting. ("First score is SEA safety" went off at +4000, as I understand it.) For the convenience of hitting, here are the winner's lists: Sean: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/smcgowan.htm TJ: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm Bob: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/breed.htm Brian: http://familytoad.tripod.com/wantlist.html On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Supreme Commander wrote: > I was at my "best mans" house (from 28 years ago) and not only did I win > our > first quarter, he runs a big 200 square money pool that pays on every score > change, and he had 2-0! It was crazy all night. His wife would have won > $100 > had denver not gone for 2. Just a nutty pool-night! I have already had > complaints > that the winners have tough lists... I have a couple silly things I do, > like Orioles > leader cards, and topps WS cards from the 60's and 70's... so I'm going to > add > those to my wantlist. Maybe the other winners should see if they can do > the > same. > Thanks again for a great time. I have notification of 2 hits already, > so only 107 > to go to get to 5000! Let me know what you send out, and give me 24 > hours on > those other lists :) > Go OBC! > Sean ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:44:44 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! If nobody has any 1952 High Numbers for my list, I do have a few UV sets, some football sets, and my "Bob" set that aren't too difficult. I've been considering added a second 1972 set so maybe I'll that to my list tonight ortomorrow. And I never got around to sending out cards to last years winners so check your mailbox. I think I still owe people for the NCAA tournament as well. I'll try to get those out before the next tournament starts. Thanks for doing this again Sean.-Bob R. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glidden.matthew@gmail.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:26:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! Congrats to the winners, this year's squares were crazy. Imagine the Vegas sports books once that safety was on the board! 2-0 as the first score blows up just about everything, regular AND prop betting. ("First score is SEA safety" went off at +4000, as I understand it.) For the convenience of hitting, here are the winner's lists: Sean: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/smcgowan.htm TJ: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htmBob: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/breed.htm Brian: http://familytoad.tripod.com/wantlist.html On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Supreme Commander wrote: I was at my "best mans" house (from 28 years ago) and not only did I win our first quarter, he runs a big 200 square money pool that pays on every score change, and he had 2-0! It was crazy all night. His wife would have won $100 had denver not gone for 2. Just a nutty pool-night! I have already had complaints that the winners have tough lists... I have a couple silly things I do, like Orioles leader cards, and topps WS cards from the 60's and 70's... so I'm going to add those to my wantlist. Maybe the other winners should see if they can do the Thanks again for a great time. I have notification of 2 hits already, so only 107 to go to get to 5000! Let me know what you send out, and give me 24 hours on those other lists :) Go OBC! ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:13:53 -0800 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Diamanti Subject: Not Gloating -- Relieved OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togetherness unlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:59:48 -0500 To: Mike Diamanti From: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Not Gloating -- Relieved Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! Now I root for both. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports,and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellentcrazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four thatwas the envy of all football fans. > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls bysome of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunchof rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopesand dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly whenplayers' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togetherness unlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment bya bunch of guys who supported each other all year. > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville ================= Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 19:02:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "zackenback23" Subject: Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (an average record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-ever running back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit at different times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot that one playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, andTy Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY seasons. I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: > Mike > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! > Now I root for both. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. > > > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard(!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) > > > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. > > > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. > > > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togethernessunlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. > > > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... > > > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville > > ================= To: "'zackenback23'" , Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:23:59 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved Up here we call a team like that the Canucks. No end to the Messiahs who are going to lead us to the Promised Land. Yeah, right. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of zackenback23 Sent: February-03-14 11:03 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses." Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (an average record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-ever running back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit at different times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot that one playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, and Ty Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: > Mike > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! > Now I root for both. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. > > > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) > > > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. > > > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. > > > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togetherness unlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. > > > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... > > > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville > > No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7054 - Release Date: 02/02/14 ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 11:44:17 -0800 (PST) To: zackenback23 , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved If this post had a Like button, I'd be pressing it. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: zackenback23 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 7:02 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (an average record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-ever running back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit at different times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot that one playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, andTy Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY seasons. I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: > Mike > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! > Now I root for both. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. > > > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard(!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) > > > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. > > > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. > > > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togethernessunlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. > > > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... > > > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville > > ================= To: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:21:26 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: Net 54 Chat Board I don't know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here's what he had to say: "Hi Grant I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards" So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. It is there for the taking if we care to use it. ================= To: , Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 15:32:31 -0500 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Rules! Yes, OBC rules. But so does my son - giving credit where it is due, he picked my team. I wanted to give a shout out to Gary for running this and encourage others next year. It was a lot of fun (and not just because I won!). At first I saw the Looooong email with rules and description and it seemed too complicated. But after reading it the 2nd time, it sounded like something my kid (who loves fantasy football) would enjoy doing, and it really isn=E2=99tthat complicated - just need to pick one player from each team and they cant all be QB=E2=99s=E2=A6 Thanks again Gary (and Noah) OBC Rules! Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 11:32 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Rules! As many of you know, I ran a playoff pool among several card collecting groups I belong to. Our very own Matt Yudt and Brian Lindholme finished in 1st and 3rd respectively, and Brian's son John took 2nd place. Bob Reed finished in 5th, just behind the 4th place prize winner. hope to get a lot more participants next year! now, on to spring training! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 2/2/2014 10:21:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, seanobc@comcast.net The winners were: Sean McGowan, TJ Valacak, Bob Reed, Brian Lindholme The webpage is at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm Go (to bed) OBC! ----- Original Message ----- From: LUURSCJG@aol.com To: seanobc@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Superbowl pool 14 is one for the ages! could i have the winners I for the life of me cant remember score except first and last In a message dated 2/2/2014 10:04:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, seanobc@comcast.net I was at my "best mans" house (from 28 years ago) and not only did I win our first quarter, he runs a big 200 square money pool that pays on every score change, and he had 2-0! It was crazy all night. His wife would have won $100 had denver not gone for 2. Just a nutty pool-night! I have already had complaints that the winners have tough lists... I have a couple silly things I do, like leader cards, and topps WS cards from the 60's and 70's... so I'm going to add those to my wantlist. Maybe the other winners should see if they can do the Thanks again for a great time. I have notification of 2 hits already, so only 107 to go to get to 5000! Let me know what you send out, and give me 24 hourson those other lists :) Go OBC! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 15:33:07 -0600 To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net From: john harrell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember those IM days well and it was a lot of fun. I'd be game if others were interested. I think Sunday evenings used to work well. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, wrote: > Grant-- > I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I think we would > have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. > Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. > peter mead > On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: > I don't know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently > updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it > when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood > strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask > permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here's what he had > to say: > "Hi Grant > I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in > the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can > help any way at all....best regards"; > So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back > in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. > It is there for the taking if we care to use it. > Grant ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 16:49:36 -0500 (EST) To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, grains@shaw.ca, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Content-Language: en those were really fun times. but i seem to remember that it fizzled out after about a month or so. maybe because it was summertime. but it certainly is worth giving it another shot! In a message dated 2/3/2014 3:05:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, hoot_owl1@verizon.net writes: I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I think we would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. peter mead On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s whathe had to =E2=9CHi Grant I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. It is there for the taking if we care to use it. ================= To: , Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:35:29 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Okay, there seems to be some interest........Gary, perhaps you joined up not too long before the Chats died, it seems to me they went on for a year ormaybe two. Perhaps Mike Rich can figure that out, he was in on most of them, and had a ton of cardboard flying himself. Sunday seems like a good idea........I=E2=99m thinking 11 Pacific, 2 Eastern, with no clue about Scotland time, I only know it will be very different. But so is Glenn. So maybe a baby step to start with.......I will try to figure out how to doa Poll.......and ask something like: -Are you a member of Net54, and would you be interested in an OBC weekly Chat? (It is free, and we all like free.) Simple Yes/No. I don=E2=99t see the point if there are not many guys interested. From: Smartalecx@aol.com [mailto:Smartalecx@aol.com] Sent: February-03-14 1:50 PM To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; grains@shaw.ca; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board those were really fun times. but i seem to remember that it fizzled out after about a month or so. maybe because it was summertime. but it certainly is worth giving it another shot! In a message dated 2/3/2014 3:05:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, hoot_owl1@verizon.net I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I think we would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. peter mead On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could usit when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to askpermission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s what he had to say: =E2=9CHi Grant I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. It is there for the taking if we care to use it. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7057 - Release Date: 02/03/14 ================= Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:55:13 -0500 To: john harrell , hoot_owl1@verizon.net From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:58:02 -0500 To: zackenback23 From: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved I hear you but when you are a teenager obsessed with sports and get to the threshold over and over again......it sure feels like heartache! Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:02 PM, "zackenback23" wrote: > "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl > Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? > My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (an average record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-everrunning back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit at different times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot that one playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, and Ty Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... > Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY seasons. > I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... > Mike Mroz > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: > > > > Mike > > > > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! > > > > Now I root for both. > > > > Doug > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: > > > > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. > > > > > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) > > > > > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. > > > > > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... > > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. > > > > > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togethernessunlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment bya bunch of guys who supported each other all year. > > > > > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... > > > > > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville > > > > > ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:06:16 -0500 To: Doug From: Jleroux Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved Be from Cleveland and born in the late 60's... John Leroux > On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Doug wrote: > I hear you but when you are a teenager obsessed with sports and get to the threshold over and over again......it sure feels like heartache! > Sent from my iPad >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:02 PM, "zackenback23" wrote: >> "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four SuperBowl >> Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? >> My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (an average record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-ever running back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit at different times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot that one playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, and Ty Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... >> Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY seasons. >> I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... >> Mike Mroz >> --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart acheof four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football,just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! >> > >> > Now I root for both. >> > >> > Doug >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: >> > >> > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. >> > > >> > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) >> > > >> > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. >> > > >> > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... >> > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. >> > > >> > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togetherness unlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. >> > > >> > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... >> > > >> > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville >> > > >> > ================= Date: 03 Feb 2014 15:06:59 -0800 To: From: Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New Poll for OBC-Ramblings ================= To: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 15:12:30 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: Chat Board.... Well there is your poll.........I tried to get it to end on Sunday, giving lots of time for everybody, but it looks like it chose to never end it. You should be able to see the results as it goes along, instead of waiting until the end. ================= To: "'Jleroux'" , "'Doug'" Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:41:40 -0500 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved Or be from Philadelphia and born From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jleroux Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:06 PM To: Doug Cc: zackenback23; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved Be from Cleveland and born in the late 60's... John Leroux On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Doug wrote: I hear you but when you are a teenager obsessed with sports and get to the threshold over and over again......it sure feels like heartache! Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:02 PM, "zackenback23" wrote: "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses." Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (an average record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-ever running back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit at different times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot that one playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, and Ty Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: > Mike > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! > Now I root for both. > Doug > Sent from my iPad > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. > > > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) > > > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of pro football, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front four that was the envy of all football fans. > > > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another super bowl loss by my regional team. > > > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and a bunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raising hopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get ugly when players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togetherness unlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for a while.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. > > > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... > > > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville > > ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:00:42 -0600 To: "" From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved Or be a fan of teams that rhyme with -ets. Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:41 PM, "Matt Yudt" wrote: > Or be from Philadelphia and born > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jleroux > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 6:06 PM > To: Doug > Cc: zackenback23; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Not Gloating -- Relieved > Mike, > Be from Cleveland and born in the late 60's... > Thanks > John Leroux >> On Feb 3, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Doug wrote: >> I hear you but when you are a teenager obsessed with sports and get to the threshold over and over again......it sure feels like heartache! >> Sent from my iPad >>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:02 PM, "zackenback23" wrote: >>> "I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses." >>> Heart ache is four Super Bowl losses??? >>> My friends, with all due respect, you don't know what heart ache is. Heartache is 0-16, heartache is 18 double digit losing seasons in 30 years, heartache is a measly 39 victories in the 10 year stretch from 2001-2010 (anaverage record of less that 4-12), heartache is Reggie Rogers, Joey Harrington, Charles Rogers, Mike Williams - all Top 10 picks, heartache is ONE playoff win in 55 seasons, heartache is fielding perhaps arguably the best-ever running back and the best-ever wide receiver to play the game (albeit atdifferent times) with absolutely nothing to show for it (oh, I forgot thatone playoff win), heartache is Eric Hipple, Bob Gagliano, Scott Mitchell, and Ty Detmer (7 interceptions in one game). I could go on and on and on.... >>> Heartache, my friends, is being a Lions fan, an suffering that uncontrollable urge to don the Honolulu Blue and Silver, and tune in for every minute, each and every week, and be rewarded with carnage on the field. Yesterday's Broncos looked a lot like the Lions of the past FIFTY seasons. >>> I mean no disrespect gents, but just had to put it in perspective... >>> Mike Mroz >>> --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Doug wrote: >>> > >>> > Mike >>> > >>> > Great story! I too grew up in Minnesota and experienced the heart ache of four Super Bowl losses. After number four I didn't give up in football, just the Vikes! After that loss I vowed to be a Cowboys fan as I decided they were the only NFC team that could win a Super Bowl! >>> > >>> > Now I root for both. >>> > >>> > Doug >>> > >>> > Sent from my iPad >>> > >>> > On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Mike Diamanti wrote: >>> > >>> > > OK, so it's not baseball -- it's football. >>> > > >>> > > But OBCers are sports nuts, even to the point of betting with cardboard (!) in a Super Bowl pool, so I gotta give a public shoutout to the Seahawks and their accomplishment. (Denver fans -- stop reading or accept my condolences on your loss....) >>> > > >>> > > I grew up in Minnesota where Bud Grant was the accepted King of profootball, and also a role model for many Midwesterners (hunt, fish, play sports, and be low key....). But he lost four Super Bowls, even with an excellent crazy running quarterback, Fran Tarkenton, and a defensive front fourthat was the envy of all football fans. >>> > > >>> > > After the fourth loss, I swore off pro football -- quit watching, quit following it, enough was enough... >>> > > I moved to the Pacific NW, glad that I wouldn't have to endure anymore super Bowl losses...then 2006 came along, and yes, there were crappy calls by some of the refs, but it was the horror of years past, another superbowl loss by my regional team. >>> > > >>> > > Then Pete Carroll happened, and Paul Allen and John Schneider and abunch of rejects and losers (according to other team GM's) started raisinghopes and dreams of a new dynasty. Fans are fickle and things can get uglywhen players' egos get the better of them. But I'm seeing a young team (average age 26.4) play with confidence and a total team spirit and togetherness unlike any other team I have ever watched. I thought the Seahawks had a shot at Miami's undefeated season, and they made a run at that record for awhile.. But a definitive SuperBowl victory was a wonderful accomplishment by a bunch of guys who supported each other all year. >>> > > >>> > > Relieved I am that I can now banish the ghost of those four Super Bowl losses and look forward, instead of backward. The Mariners?! Well...I used to root for the Twins...just hope I live long enough to see THAT team re-build...yeah, right, as Grant would say.... >>> > > >>> > > CoffeedudeDiamantiDelightedinCoupeville >>> > > >>> > ================= To: obcjohn@gmail.com, hoot_owl1@verizon.net Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:02:00 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I would be in too... -----Original Message----- From: john harrell To: hoot_owl1 Cc: Grant Rainsley ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember those IM days well and it was a lot of fun. I'd be game if others were interested. I think Sunday evenings used to work well. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, wrote: I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I think we would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. peter mead On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could usit when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to askpermission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s what he had to say: =E2=9CHi Grant I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. It is there for the taking if we care to use it. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:23:22 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Superbowl ================= To: Wite3@aol.com, obcjohn@gmail.com, hoot_owl1@verizon.net Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:43:47 -0500 (EST) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember being on there with Rob Gioia among others for many months of chats. 2:00 pm est is a tad early for me. If we move this to Sunday nites, I am likely to be able to join in periodically. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Levine To: obcjohn ; hoot_owl1 Cc: grains ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:02 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I would be in too... -----Original Message----- From: john harrell To: hoot_owl1 Cc: Grant Rainsley ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember those IM days well and it was a lot of fun. I'd be game if others were interested. I think Sunday evenings used to work well. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, wrote: I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I think we would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. peter mead On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could usit when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to askpermission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s what he had to say: =E2=9CHi Grant I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. It is there for the taking if we care to use it. ================= To: , , , Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 20:01:28 -0500 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I prefer Sunday nights (EST) as well, but will make whatever I can whenever it is! Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:44 PM To: Wite3@aol.com; obcjohn@gmail.com; hoot_owl1@verizon.net Cc: grains@shaw.ca; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember being on there with Rob Gioia among others for many months of chats. 2:00 pm est is a tad early for me. If we move this to Sunday nites, I am likely to be able to join in periodically. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Levine To: obcjohn ; hoot_owl1 Cc: grains ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:02 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I would be in too... -----Original Message----- From: john harrell To: hoot_owl1 Cc: Grant Rainsley ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:33 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember those IM days well and it was a lot of fun. I'd be game if others were interested. I think Sunday evenings used to work well. On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, wrote: I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I think we would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. peter mead On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: I don't know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here's what he had to say: "Hi Grant I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys in the hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards"; So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun back in the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats. It is there for the taking if we care to use it. ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:43:05 -0800 (PST) To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , From: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I agree about the time. I can do some sunday afternoons but would definately prefer evening. just my nickels worth John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: Wite3@aol.com; obcjohn@gmail.com; hoot_owl1@verizon.net Cc: grains@shaw.ca; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember being on there with Rob Gioia among others for many months of chats. 2:00 pm est is a tad early for me. If we move this to Sunday nites, I am likely to be able to join in periodically. Mike Rich -----Original Message-----From: Joshua Levine To: obcjohn ; hoot_owl1 Cc: grains ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 7:02 pmSubject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I would be in too... -----Original Message-----From: john harrell To: hoot_owl1 Cc: Grant Rainsley ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 3, 2014 1:33 pmSubject: Re:[OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board I remember those IM days well and it was a lot of fun. I'd be game ifothers were interested. I think Sunday evenings used to work well.Bama On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:05 PM, wrote: >I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I thinkwe would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. >Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. >peter mead >On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: >I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s what he had to say: >=E2=9CHi Grant >I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys inthe hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; >So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun backin the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats.It is there for the taking if we care to use it. ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:51:05 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Ed pike Subject: Re: de-Slab Joining this topic late but cannot resist. I pried apart a couple and havent tried cuttingbthem. Doesn't seem to make sense for some of the sellers slabbing fairly low value cards, but maybe they are overly optomistic or someone wanted in for their collection. I have one or two tht I ay leave in thecase, especially an odd sized Fatima I can see the point of having very high value cards authenticated, if you trust the grading services, especially for someone who is not that familiar with an issue. Ed Pike ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:29:33 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Gee....Thanks.......I think....... That would be about 7pm local time for me. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Grant Rainsley To: Smartalecx@aol.com; hoot_owl1@verizon.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Okay, there seems to be some interest........Gary, perhaps you joined up not too long before the Chats died, it seems to me they went on for a year ormaybe two. Perhaps Mike Rich can figure that out, he was in on most of them, and had a ton of cardboard flying himself. Sunday seems like a good idea........I=E2=99m thinking 11 Pacific, 2 Eastern, with no clue about Scotland time, I only know it will be very different. But so is Glenn. So maybe a baby step to start with.......I will try to figure out how to doa Poll.......and ask something like: -Are you a member of Net54, and would you be interested in an OBC weekly Chat? (It is free, and we all like free.) Simple Yes/No. I don=E2=99t see the point if there are not many guys interested. From:Smartalecx@aol.com [mailto:Smartalecx@aol.com] Sent: February-03-14 1:50 PM To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; grains@shaw.ca; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board those were really fun times. but i seem to remember that it fizzled out after about a month or so. maybe because it was summertime. but it certainly is worth giving it another shot! In a message dated 2/3/2014 3:05:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, hoot_owl1@verizon.net >I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I thinkwe would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. >Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. >peter mead >On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: >I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s what he had to say: >=E2=9CHi Grant >I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys inthe hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; >So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun backin the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats.It is there for the taking if we care to use it. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7057 - Release Date: 02/03/14 ================= Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 23:40:52 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Sounds like most are in favor of a Sunday evening slot. Due to the 5 hour time difference between EST and Glasgow, I'd only be able to dip into the sessions once in a while (if I happened to have a day off on Monday) but that's ok. Whatever suits the majority should be what we go for. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Glenn Codere To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:29 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Gee....Thanks.......I think....... That would be about 7pm local time for me. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Grant Rainsley To: Smartalecx@aol.com; hoot_owl1@verizon.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 10:35 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board Okay, there seems to be some interest........Gary, perhaps you joined up not too long before the Chats died, it seems to me they went on for a year ormaybe two. Perhaps Mike Rich can figure that out, he was in on most of them, and had a ton of cardboard flying himself. Sunday seems like a good idea........I=E2=99m thinking 11 Pacific, 2 Eastern, with no clue about Scotland time, I only know it will be very different. But so is Glenn. So maybe a baby step to start with.......I will try to figure out how to doa Poll.......and ask something like: -Are you a member of Net54, and would you be interested in an OBC weekly Chat? (It is free, and we all like free.) Simple Yes/No. I don=E2=99t see the point if there are not many guys interested. From:Smartalecx@aol.com [mailto:Smartalecx@aol.com] Sent: February-03-14 1:50 PM To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; grains@shaw.ca; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Net 54 Chat Board those were really fun times. but i seem to remember that it fizzled out after about a month or so. maybe because it was summertime. but it certainly is worth giving it another shot! In a message dated 2/3/2014 3:05:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, hoot_owl1@verizon.net >I love the idea. Back in the day--it was a lot of fun. I thinkwe would have to pick a weekly time (or a few times)--semi-scheduled is what I mean. >Let me know when--and I know their will be a waiver wire on the first chat. >peter mead >On 02/03/14, Grant Rainsley wrote: >I don=E2=99t know how many of you frequent the Net54 board, but they recently updated their chat board. The thought occurred to me that WE could us it when we feel like it, most of the time there is nobody on it. If the mood strikes, just log into Chat and off we go.......I thought it best to ask permission from the Moderator (that would be Leon), and here=E2=99s what he had to say: >=E2=9CHi Grant >I have to say most of the OBC guys I have met are some of the best guys inthe hobby. Yes, please use the chat all you want to. Let me know if I can help any way at all....best regards=E2=9D; >So what say YOU? Good idea, or bad idea? We used to have a lot of fun backin the days when we used IM, and a lot of cardboard flew during our chats.It is there for the taking if we care to use it. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com/ Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3684/7057 - Release Date: 02/03/14 ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 07:47:39 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Mandell Subject: thayer http://www.mountvernonnews.com/local/12/06/13/thayers-teaching-license-revoked i was wondering why jimi seems to have so much time to post on other sites.looks like we made a good decision ================= To: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:38:17 -0500 From: Subject: Re: thayer Hi Guys: I don=E2=99t think it is a good idea to post Jimi Thayer=E2=99s issues for all to see on the group board, we do not know all the facts, just my two cents on the subject. Nick Covello ================= To: nickcov@snip.net,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 08:50:59 -0500 From: "John" Content-Disposition: inline ================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 09:20:47 -0500 To: nickcov@snip.net From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thayer It's not something to gossip about, yet could be relevant for OBC. A former member was arrested several years back for involvement in underage photo trafficking. That gave investigators reason to contact OBCers as other guys he swapped "photos" (baseball cards) with. (Nothing came of that besides phone conversations, I believe.) I've traded with Jimi before and think it's important to avoid a court of opinion, outside of OBC's brief discussion when he applied for membership. That process was recent enough, however, that I'd like to know factual context in the small chance a legal case develops. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:38 AM, wrote: > Hi Guys: > I don't think it is a good idea to post Jimi Thayer's issues for all to > see on the group board, we do not know all the facts, just my two cents on > the subject. > Nick Covello ================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:23:01 -0500 (EST) To: jd3681@yahoo.com, nickcov@snip.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thayer Content-Language: en sorry if i offended anyone with this. wasn't my intention at all. i we had a similar issue several years ago with a former member, and it was posted all over the place. In a message dated 2/4/2014 7:51:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, jd3681@yahoo.com writes: Thanks Nick for putting this so nicely. I totally agree with you as he is a freind of mine I was very put off. Sent from my HTC One SV ----- Reply message ----- From: nickcov@snip.net To: Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: thayer Date: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 8:38 AM Hi Guys: I don=E2=99t think it is a good idea to post Jimi Thayer=E2=99s issues for all to see on the group board, we do not know all the facts, just my two cents on the subject. Nick Covello ================= Date: 04 Feb 2014 16:01:09 -0800 To: From: Subject: RE: thayer ================= Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:11:07 -0500 (EST) To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: thayer Content-Language: en I agree Tom. AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY! In a message dated 2/4/2014 7:01:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, directorth@aol.com writes: The posting about Jimi's situation bothered me too. We're not the "morals police" and any discussion about a member, or potential member, should, in my opinion, only be about whether he or she would make a good fit within the group as a card trader. It's up to each individual member to decide for himself whether or not to swap with another collector. We in OBC especially shouldn't throw stones, since we have run into the difficult situation of a member's past criminal conviction - an issue that your AC has discussed thoroughly.. Unless & until there's a morals clause in the application process and code of conduct, I stress that these types of posts should be discouraged. My two cents (plus postage). ================= To: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:17:18 -0800 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Set Completion Excitement..and the search continues I didn't know of anyone other than perhaps you guys who would have the slightest interest in this subject, but I wanted to tell someone. I managed to knock off two sets already this year that had been on my wantlists for about 10 years. The first "set" was the 1967 Milton Bradley football cards with bright yellow backs picked from the 1967 Topps football set. The second set was 1962 Post baseball. I worked out a trade with an SCD reader for the 4 Milton Bradley football cards I needed including a Namath. The 1962 Norm Larker Post Cereal card I just picked up on eBay. Collecting is a continuous pursuit though and I could be led astray into collecting the Post Cereal variations which will cause me to start the entire process again. I finish one set about every year or two these days so it was fun to make some early progress on my 2014 goals. Now to find an affordable 1976 Hostess Mike Schmidt, and a 1975 Hostess Burt Hooton, and 3 1977 cloth puzzle pieces, and a Funny Ring checklist, and.. The search George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:23:43 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: Net54 Chat..... The poll has been open for about 48 hours now.............15 out of 175 Ramblings subscribers have said they are interested. So let's make Sunday our day, whenever you sign into Net54 and feel like a chat...we'll see what develops. I'll give Leon the heads-up that he might get some questions about the weird guys in Chat saying things like "Who wants a '59 Mays?" or ================= Date: 06 Feb 2014 11:41:13 -0800 To: From: Subject: Opening a Pack of 1963 Cards ================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 21:47:16 +0000 (UTC) To: bskp1@aol.com, vct-bounces@lists.vintagecardtraders.com From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Post Canadian Lot Hello All, There is a lot of 36 `62 Post Canadian cards being offered on eBay that are being advertised as `62 Post. Currently the listing is at about 75 cents a card and probably not a bad deal for someone looking to start the set. I need (2) of the cards so I am not going to bid any more - but I thought I would let you guys know that it was out there - just a little "bird-doggin'". Check it out at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400654981657 If someone should land it and was feelin' generous and wanted to slip cards 38 & 50 my way I wouldn't complain in the least bit. BE WELL!!! REGARDS -------------- MARK ================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 16:46:41 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Super Bowl Spoils News Flash!!! This just in: In an unprecedented achievement for him,OBC memberEarl Kilbourn sent out envelopes to each winner in the OBC Super Bowl Pool today! This marks the first time in recent memory that envelopes have gone out within theweek immediatelyfollowing the playing of the game. Well at least one team played the game, we arenot sure what the other team was doing.For a related story we send you back to OBC Pool Central. What can you tell us about other Pool events, Bob? "we keep what we give away!" ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:58:28 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Vintage starter sets available (soon) Well, not yet completely available but more as a heads-up of what might become available. Let me explain... Last weekend I "blew off" meeting up with Mark Holland at the Raleigh show on Saturday to attend an auction of cards and other sports items from a collector/dealer(?) who passed away. The auction was also listed online, but with the crazy opening bid listings (creased '57 Clemente for $80), which I subsequently found out were actually NOT opening bids, so I wasn't sure what to expect. There were close to 450 individual cards in the online/live part of the auction, and tables full of binders and boxes of cards in the live-only part of the auction (along with magazines and other items). But I arrived anyway, and sadly, only partially prepared. There was a TON of stuff and it soon became apparent that there were plenty of good deals tobe had. For example, I ended up getting the above Clemente for $15 (plus the vig and sales tax), along with about 50 other individual cards that I either needed or will probably use as upgrades to my sets. The other thing I "ended up with" were 17 binders full of vintage cards (mostly baseball but some football). Each binder (barring a couple exceptions)contained cards only for a specific year. They sold the binders in groups of 2 or 3 but this wasn't spelled out ahead of time, so there was some consternation among the bidders trying to match up the "jumbled" lots with whatthey were interested in, such as yours truly winning a 3 binder lot that had one binder full of 91 Fleer FB (auctioned as 1 bid times 3). In any case, and in the final tally, I may have spent as much in this auction as I didat the past 2 Nationals combined. I am slowly going through each binder/year I won so there will be starter sets "available" for trade or purchase. In general, the cards are probably averaging VG or VG/EX condition with some sets (such as the '70s stuff) being better. Mostly commons and minor stars with the occasional bigger name and a few high numbers (though the "names" usually have some kind of minor ormajor issue). So far I have gone through the '56 (about 150 cards), '61 (about 400 cards), and '64 Topps (about 300 cards) baseball binders and want to try and get through a binder a day (or in 2 days). What does this all mean? First, I would offer up the starters in trade. I would be looking for hits to my vintage want lists. This might prove difficult and my guess is that those that might be interested or need these might not be able to help me, and those that can help me might not be interested. But this is the first and primary option, and I'm open to other ideas/offers regarding trades. Second, I would offer up the starters for purchase (as dealer scum) within these groups. I am not looking to "make money" on these within our groups, but would be looking to cover my costs (roughly gavel price, 10% BP, tax, and shipping) for each starter. Lastly, barring interest in specific items here, they will either get listed on ebay or offered up on Net54. I can and will provide more details on each starter as they become available (average condition, # of cards, minors/stars in the lot, cost if wanting to buy, etc), but I wanted to put out the general alarm ahead of time. Other than the 3 sets above, I don't want to list the other years until I get to them, as I don't want to get too far ahead of myself and be swamped with requests. But if there is a specific year you are interested in, let me know and I'll take a look to see if I have it (and maybe bump it to the top ofthe "review" list). So, after all that ramble, let me know if you have: A ) any interest in trading for or purchasing any of these (in general), or B ) any specific interest in the ones I have already gone through ('56, '61, or '64 Topps) I plan to provide a more detailed listing of what I have gone through (and is available) this weekend with subsequent years/starters to follow. While I admittedly have potentially offered to SELL cards here, my PRIMARY goal is to TRADE them if possible. And I hope this is acceptable within thespirit of the bylaws for each group. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:57:18 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Doug Subject: Is Guru selling some of his cards????? Classic Lot on EBay End time: Feb 8, 2014, 5:16:09 PM EST View item: 1950's-1970's Topps Mays Aaron Banks Mathews Musial Vintage Lot POOR Condition Sent from my iPad ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 20:59:58 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [DugoutTraders] Vintage starter sets available (soon) Already a bunch of emails so some clarification... I would prefer to get rid of these as starters, however I am willing to look through for individual want list hits as well. Keep in mind though that "all of us" probably need those last few, same cards, so the chance of them being here are slim. Also for the most part, the major stars (Mantle, Clemente, Aaron, etc) are probably not here. Especially in the '50s and '60s stuff. ... and a request. IF you want me to check for specific hits to your lists, can you please cut/paste them into your email request. It will make my life a little easier and more inclined to look through them. ;) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; octraders@yahoogroups.com; vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:58:28 -0500 Subject: [DugoutTraders] Vintage starter sets available (soon) Well, not yet completely available but more as a heads-up of what might become available. Let me explain... Last weekend I "blew off" meeting up with Mark Holland at the Raleigh show on Saturday to attend an auction of cards and other sports items from a collector/dealer(?) who passed away. The auction was also listed online, but with the crazy opening bid listings (creased '57 Clemente for $80), which I subsequently found out were actually NOT opening bids, so I wasn't sure what to expect. There were close to 450 individual cards in the online/live part of the auction, and tables full of binders and boxes of cards in the live-only part of the auction (along with magazines and other items). But I arrived anyway, and sadly, only partially prepared. There was a TON of stuff and it soon became apparent that there were plenty of good deals tobe had. For example, I ended up getting the above Clemente for $15 (plus the vig and sales tax), along with about 50 other individual cards that I either needed or will probably use as upgrades to my sets. The other thing I "ended up with" were 17 binders full of vintage cards (mostly baseball but some football). Each binder (barring a couple exceptions)contained cards only for a specific year. They sold the binders in groups of 2 or 3 but this wasn't spelled out ahead of time, so there was some consternation among the bidders trying to match up the "jumbled" lots with whatthey were interested in, such as yours truly winning a 3 binder lot that had one binder full of 91 Fleer FB (auctioned as 1 bid times 3). In any case, and in the final tally, I may have spent as much in this auction as I didat the past 2 Nationals combined. I am slowly going through each binder/year I won so there will be starter sets "available" for trade or purchase. In general, the cards are probably averaging VG or VG/EX condition with some sets (such as the '70s stuff) being better. Mostly commons and minor stars with the occasional bigger name and a few high numbers (though the "names" usually have some kind of minor ormajor issue). So far I have gone through the '56 (about 150 cards), '61 (about 400 cards), and '64 Topps (about 300 cards) baseball binders and want to try and get through a binder a day (or in 2 days). What does this all mean? First, I would offer up the starters in trade. I would be looking for hits to my vintage want lists. This might prove difficult and my guess is that those that might be interested or need these might not be able to help me, and those that can help me might not be interested. But this is the first and primary option, and I'm open to other ideas/offers regarding trades. Second, I would offer up the starters for purchase (as dealer scum) within these groups. I am not looking to "make money" on these within our groups, but would be looking to cover my costs (roughly gavel price, 10% BP, tax, and shipping) for each starter. Lastly, barring interest in specific items here, they will either get listed on ebay or offered up on Net54. I can and will provide more details on each starter as they become available (average condition, # of cards, minors/stars in the lot, cost if wanting to buy, etc), but I wanted to put out the general alarm ahead of time. Other than the 3 sets above, I don't want to list the other years until I get to them, as I don't want to get too far ahead of myself and be swamped with requests. But if there is a specific year you are interested in, let me know and I'll take a look to see if I have it (and maybe bump it to the top ofthe "review" list). So, after all that ramble, let me know if you have: A ) any interest in trading for or purchasing any of these (in general), or B ) any specific interest in the ones I have already gone through ('56, '61, or '64 Topps) I plan to provide a more detailed listing of what I have gone through (and is available) this weekend with subsequent years/starters to follow. While I admittedly have potentially offered to SELL cards here, my PRIMARY goal is to TRADE them if possible. And I hope this is acceptable within thespirit of the bylaws for each group. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:29:13 -0800 To: "arch8neca@aol.com" From: Stamper Subject: Re: [VCT] Post Canadian Lot I have a bid on them. John Stamper On Feb 6, 2014, at 4:44 PM, arch8neca@aol.com wrote: > Is anyone bidding on these? I was considering it but I don't want to start a VCT bidding war! lol > -----Original Message----- > From: talbot1 > To: bskp1 ; vct-bounces > Cc: vct ; OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 4:47 pm > Subject: [VCT] Post Canadian Lot > Hello All, > There is a lot of 36 `62 Post Canadian cards being offered on eBay that are being advertised as `62 Post. Currently the listing is at about 75cents a card and probably not a bad deal for someone looking to start the set. I need (2) of the cards so I am not going to bid any more - but I thought I would let you guys know that it was out there - just a little "bird-doggin'". Check it out at: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item400654981657 > If someone should land it and was feelin' generous and wanted to slip cards 38 & 50 my way I wouldn't complain in the least bit. BE WELL!!! > REGARDS -------------- MARK > _____________________________________________________________ > -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com > -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com > _____________________________________________________________ > -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com > -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 00:16:17 -0500 (EST) From: Ed Pike Subject: Ebay N28/N29 lot w/back damage I saw this lot on ebay, just over $10/each minimum bid though I suspect that it will go up. If anyone who wants to bid also wants a minor split pleaseLMK as I may take one or two but have no interest bidding on my own as most of these are not on my list. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1887-1888-N28-N29-Allen-Ginter-14-Card-Lot-check-description-for-details-/221366613535?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem338a7a761f Ed Pike ================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 08:20:07 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: Is Guru selling some of his cards????? Classic Lot on EBay Brings back memories of the sewer find of 2012! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 09:11:55 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Wantlist , From: Gary Beard Subject: 83 Topps Football list updated/created I wasn't sure if the "wantlist" server is used much, or if I'm set up on that one, so I sent this message to both the wantlist and ramblings server. Sorry if you get multiple messages. I've created and updated my '83 Topps Football wantlist after receiving a starter set from Taylor Schock. The list can be viewed at: http://garybeardbbcards.webs.com/football.htm Thanks for looking, Gary Beard (OBC, VCT, Net54, The Bench, Card Trading Fools) 1014 Liada Way Oxnard, CA 93030 ================= Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 11:02:17 -0800 (PST) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rob Bessette Subject: Any set killer heroes out there? I'm down to just four cards needed for my 1964 Topps set. Looking for VG/EX condition. I have 57-75 to trade. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 1964 TOPPS NEEDS 464, 468, 532, 543 ================= To: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:11:48 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 2014 OBC-AC election reminder Hey guys, I sent out a note last week to open up the 2014 OBCAC elections. After the first week I have received a total of 3 responses. That is a 2.3% member turnout. The only way I could get a lower turnout would be to ask each of you to send me a 52 Mantle. Let me try again....... It is time to nominate your choice for this year's OBCAC. Nominations are needed to be added to the ballot for voting members and facilitator. All nominees must be nominated and confirmed by midnight 2/15. The election will follow based on nominees received and confirmed prior to deadline. Executive Summary: More nominees needed, not enough to fill positions yet! Get your nominees in! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Holland Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:15 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2014 OBC-AC election It is time to elect the 2014 OBC-AC and I am the Elections Commissioner. Having been a past OBC-AC member, I recommend you consider donating a little time to help maintain OBC as the best on line trading club and gain some insight on the behind the scenes aspect of running our group. If you are not comfortable nominating/voting for 7 members, feel free to nominate 2 or 3. I will send out a confirmation email to each nominee unless the nominee acknowledges independently that they accept nomination beforehand. All votes and nominee acceptance must be received by 2/15. A full set of rules can be found on the "Rules of Conduct" link on the OBC web Your 2013 OBC-AC has been Geordie Calvert, Tom Housley, Ken Morganti, Rich Niessen, John Stamper, George Vrechek, Geno Wagner, and Mac Wubben Off my soap box now....here are the rules. Good luck to everyone seeking . Nominations - Each year from February 1 thru February 14, the Commissioner will accept nominations to be a candidate in simultaneous elections for (a) "OBC AC Facilitator" and (b) "OBC AC member". A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions, however the successful candidate for the position of OBC AC Facilitator will not be allowed to serve as an OBC AC member. In this circumstance, a seat on the OBC AC will fall to the eighth placed nominee on the OBC AC members ballot. Self nominations are not allowed. Inactive members are not allowed to be nominated nor serve on the OBCAC. . Candidate qualifications - Anyone who has been in OBC for at least three years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. . Acceptance of nomination - All nominations must be approved of by the nominee. . OBCAC Voting Member Election - The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the . OBCAC Facilitator Election - The member with the highest number of votes in the election for OBC AC Facilitator will serve as OBC AC . Election results - The Commissioner shall release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 22:19:23 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: OBC smashes by 5000 hits! I am proud to announce that we have smashed 5000 superbowl hits and are nearly at 5100! I have commemerated this by putting an image of the front and back of the official 5000th hit (take that Pete Rose!) on the 2014 superbowl pool web page. check it out and check out the awesome #'s at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-14.htm Go OBC! ================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:22:48 -0800 (PST) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: 1948 leaf is there anybody on this group putting together the leaf set either baseball or football? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:30:23 -0800 (PST) To: John Dahms , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1948 leaf I'm not, but I have a 1960 Ryne Duren #22 in NrMt if anybody wants it=E2=A6 Take Care, > From: John Dahms >To: OBC ramblings ; VCT >Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 1:22 PM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1948 leaf >is there anybody on this group putting together the leaf set either baseball or football? >John Dahms >3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 >Jackson, MI >I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. >http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 12:31:13 -0800 (PST) To: John Dahms , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1948 leaf Sorry, I missed the "1948" part in the Subject line. Oh well, Ryne ishere for the taking=E2=A6 > From: John Dahms >To: OBC ramblings ; VCT >Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2014 1:22 PM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1948 leaf >is there anybody on this group putting together the leaf set either baseball or football? >John Dahms >3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 >Jackson, MI >I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. >http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:36:32 -0500 (EST) To: jd3681@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [VCT] 1948 leaf Baseball for me In a message dated 2/8/2014 3:22:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jd3681@yahoo.com writes: is there anybody on this group putting together the leaf set either baseball or football? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 18:17:19 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Yaz Subject: Yaz bumper sticker This question came to me today. I will post it below. If any of you know about it, sound out! Greg (yaz) I have come across a standard size Yaz bumper sticker that I can not find anywhere on the internet , it looks like this (could supply a photo later if that would be any help) (red background with white letters) THANKS YAZ 1961- 1983 It is still attached to the original backing , although it does have a few wrinkles on one end Do you know anything about this ? Appears to be somewhat rare since I can not find anything like it ================= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 16:51:10 -0800 (PST) To: "obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com" , From: mark zentkovich Subject: new sets started 77-78 kelloggs started two new kelloggs sets, any condition ok if you have any dupes to trade please check my list at: http://markzent.weebly.com/70s-baseball.html thanks, mark zentkovich ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 23:04:59 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1961 Topps starter set details Thanks to all who responded already to my previous emails. If I didn't get back to you directly regarding any requests for 1961 Topps, my apologies. Apologies as well to other individual requests that I will try to respond tosoon. (I will get to the 1964 Topps soon) Ideally I would like to get rid of each year as a single starter lot, but I'd consider breaking them up if no interest in the entire lot. For the 1961starter, there were slightly over 400 cards in the binder but I went through my dupes box and added a few to fill in the holes that I could. I would LOVE to trade this starter for hits to my want list, but I wanted to provide the "sale" price up front as well for anyone who might be interested. Here's the breakdown: Starter Set: 1961 Topps (444 cards total, includes pages and binder) Condition: about 20% are P/F/G and the other 80% are VG to EXMT (mostly VG to My Cost: $130 + 18% (buyerauction fee and sales tax) + $15 (prioty S/H, insured) Total Sale Price: $168 The numbers included in this lot are as follows (with approximate condition): 1(Groat VG/EX), 3, 4, 6, 7(White Sox TC GD), 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17(checklist unmarked VG), 18, 19(Boyer FR), 20(Roberts VG), 21(Versalles RC GD), 22, 23, 24, 25(Pinson/Bell/Robinson VG), 26, 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 33,34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41(Groat/Mays/Clemente GD), 42(LL), 45(LL), 46(LL), 47(LL), 48(LL), 49(Drysdale/Koufax/Broglio GD), 50(LL), 51(Tigers TC VG),52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63(Kaat VG), 64, 65(KluszewskiVG)), 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80(Killebrew FR erased writing on front), 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86(Dodgers TC FR), 87, 88(Ashburn VG), 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95(Cash), 96, 97, 98(checklist marked), 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104(Blanchard EX), 105, 106, 107, 108, 109(Podres VG), 110(Pinson GD), 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 121, 122(Cubs TC FR), 123, 124, 125, 126, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132(Lopez GD), 134, 135, 136(Alston VG/EX), 137, 138, 140, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 151,152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159(Orioles TC VG), 161, 162, 163, 164,166, 167(Giants TC VG), 168(Davis VG/EX), 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 178, 179, 180(Richardson PR), 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 208, 209, 210, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 223, 224, 226, 227, 229, 230, 232, 233, 234, 235, 237, 238, 239, 240, 242, 243, 244, 246, 247, 248, 249(Reds TC PR), 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 261, 262, 263, 264, 265(Kubek VG/EX), 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280(Howard VG/EX), 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 288, 289, 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 296, 298, 299, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306(WS1 VG), 308(WS3 PR), 309(WS4 VG), 310(WS5 VG), 313(WS Celebration GD), 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 328, 329, 331, 332, 333, 334, 335, 336, 337(Wynn/Lopez/Score VG/EX), 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 345(Piersall VG/EX), 346, 347(Cards TC FR), 348,349, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355(Allison (VG)), 356, 357, 359, 360(Robinson nice but trimmed), 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 372, 373(Red Sox TC FR), 374, 376, 377, 378, 379, 380(Minoso FR), 381, 382, 383, 384, 385, 386, 387, 389, 390(Crandall VG), 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 398, 399,400, 403, 407, 412, 413, 414, 416(Howser RC GD), 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 426(Braves TC VG), 427, 431, 432, 433, 434, 438(Flood VG), 439, 441, 442, 444, 445, 446, 447, 448(Rice VG), 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 456, 457, 459, 461(Burgess GD), 462, 463, 464(Thomas RC VG), 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 473(MVP), 474(MVP), 476(MVP), 479(MVP), 481(MVP), 483(Newcombe MVPVG), 486(Groat MVP VG/EX), 487, 488, 489, 491, 492, 493, 494(Cheney VG), 495, 496, 497, 499, 500, 501, 503, 504, 505(Schoendienst VG), 506(Davis RC VG), 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 518, 519, 521, 522(FarrellVG) If there is any interest, just let me know. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: jd3681@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 00:18:10 -0500 (EST) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1948 leaf I am down to Wagner plus the shortprints in BB and the high numbers in FB. Also down to 2 on the Boxing, and card #1 in 1949 FB. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: John Dahms To: OBC ramblings ; VCT Sent: Sat, Feb 8, 2014 3:22 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1948 leaf is there anybody on this group putting together the leaf set either baseball or football? John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 08:31:36 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: This belongs in OBC http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1238717#post1238717 ================= To: Bob Donaldson , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 09:40:39 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] This belongs in OBC FWIW... I've gotten cards from Marc before and he's a good guy. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 08:31:36 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] This belongs in OBC http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p1238717#post1238717 ================= Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 08:21:36 -0700 To: Taylor Schock , Bob Donaldson From: illini_grad_90 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] This belongs in OBC ================= To: taylor_schock@hotmail.com, obcbobd@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 11:16:01 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] This belongs in OBC Me too...Marc is highly recommended. -----Original Message----- From: Taylor Schock To: Bob Donaldson ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, Feb 9, 2014 6:40 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] This belongs in OBC FWIW... I've gotten cards from Marc before and he's a good guy. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 08:31:36 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] This belongs in OBC http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p1238717#post1238717 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 08:48:19 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Patrick Prickett Subject: Anyone have a January 2013 SMR? Hi All, I have been writing an article on the W572s (and am waiting on a couple photos before I send it out), but someone just told me that Kevin Glew wroate an article about them in the January 2013 SMR. Does anyone have a copy? If so, would you be willing to send me a scan of the article? My article centers on tying the W572s to the T85 Stroller's so it's unlikely that the article is realted to this ... but I'd hate to put this out there and get egg on my face! ================= Date: 09 Feb 2014 09:05:04 -0800 To: From: Subject: Bob Lennon ================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:47:25 -0800 (PST) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: net54 chatroom hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curious to know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried my regular user name password and it wont let me . thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= To: "'John Dahms'" , Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:58:41 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom I'm on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take a read through this: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=94973 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dahms Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curious to know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried my regular user name password and it wont let me . thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:02:39 -0500 (EST) To: grains@shaw.ca, jd3681@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom Content-Language: en Hi Grant, I'm looking around and still dont see how to find or use chat, bb In a message dated 2/9/2014 1:58:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grains@shaw.ca writes: I=E2=99m on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take aread through this: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t94973&highlightchat From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dahms Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curious to know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried my regular user name password and it wont let me . thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 19:27:55 +0000 (UTC) To: 'OBC , 'John , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom The Chat may not work very well with mobile devices, so if you are using a regular computer it might be better...since I am on a mobile device right now, I'm outa luck until I dust off the laptop in my office...
oBC Forever
Brian

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================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 14:47:16 -0500 To: "" From: BBC Trading Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom I went in to N54 and it wasn't showing an open chat session. But when I clicked on "who's chatting" it showed three people. I just can't get into the room. Do you need to download something to get into the room? Andy Huntoon Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2014, at 2:27 PM, wrote: > The Chat may not work very well with mobile devices, so if you are using a regular computer it might be better...since I am on a mobile device rightnow, I'm outa luck until I dust off the laptop in my office... > oBC Forever > Brian > Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: grains@shaw.ca > To: jd3681@yahoo.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent:Sun Feb 9 06:58:46 UTC 2014 > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom > I=E2=99m on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take a read through this: > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t94973&highlightchat > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dahms > Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM > To: OBC ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom > hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curiousto know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried myregular user name password and it wont let me . > thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= To: 'OBC ramblings' Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:50:43 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom Greek to me, I can't see how to get on. Richard D To: jd3681@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: grains@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:58:41 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom I=92m on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take a read through this: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t94973&highlightchat From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of John Dahms Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curious to know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried my regular user name password and it wont let me . thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. JD JohnDahms3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601Jackson, MI49202I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site.http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= To: "'richard dingman'" , Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 17:31:52 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom Wouldn't let me log in. When I ask to reset my password it says user obcbobd does not exist. But I log in to Net54 with that user name every day Oh well From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard dingman Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:51 PM To: 'OBC ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom Greek to me, I can't see how to get on. Richard D To: jd3681@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: grains@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:58:41 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom I'm on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take a read through this: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=94973 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dahms Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curious to know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried my regular user name password and it wont let me . thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3697/7077 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= To: "'Bob Donaldson'" , Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:31:34 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom There were half a dozen or so of us on earlier........some could log in with their usual ID, others had to enter a 2nd one.......JD, can you explain what you had to do? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson Sent: February-09-14 2:32 PM To: 'richard dingman'; 'OBC ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom Wouldn't let me log in. When I ask to reset my password it says user obcbobd does not exist. But I log in to Net54 with that user name every day Oh well From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard din gman Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:51 PM To: 'OBC ramblings' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom Greek to me, I can't see how to get on. Richard D To: jd3681@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: grains@shaw.ca Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:58:41 -0800 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom I'm on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take a read through this: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=94973 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramb lings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dahms Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM To: OBC ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curious to know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried my regular user name password and it wont let me . thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3697/7077 - Release Date: 02/09/14 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:41:22 -0800 To: Grant Rainsley From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom I tried a little with no success. I only have a iPad now no regular computer Sent from my iPad > On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:31 PM, "Grant Rainsley" wrote: > There were half a dozen or so of us on earlier........some could log in with their usual ID, others had to enter a 2nd one.......JD, can you explainwhat you had to do? > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson > Sent: February-09-14 2:32 PM > To: 'richard dingman'; 'OBC ramblings' > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom > Wouldn=E2=99t let me log in. When I ask to reset my password it says user obcbobd does not exist. But I log in to Net54 with that user name every > Oh well > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard din gman > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 4:51 PM > To: 'OBC ramblings' > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom > Greek to me, I can't see how to get on. > Richard D > To: jd3681@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: grains@shaw.ca > Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 10:58:41 -0800 > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom > I=E2=99m on now..........if anyone has trouble trying to get in, take a read through this: > http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t94973&highlightchat > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramb lings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Dahms > Sent: February-09-14 10:47 AM > To: OBC ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 chatroom > hello all, just trying to figure out the net54 chatroom thing. curiousto know if I need to set up an account just for the room. I have tried myregular user name password and it wont let me . > thanks and sorry for clogging up the site with this. > JD > John Dahms > 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 > Jackson, MI > 49202 > I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. > http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3697/7077 - Release Date: 02/09/14 > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3697/7078 - Release Date: 02/09/14 ================= Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 08:08:55 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: OBC chat I've used Paltalk.com mAybe this is a better option? Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:33:39 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1956 starter available (details inside) The '61 starter is gone and the '64 starter has been committed. (Sorry if Ihadn't gotten to individual responses just yet). Here's the breakdown for contents of the '56 Topps binder. Starter Set: 1956 Topps (163 cards total, includes pages and binder) Condition: about 50% are P/F/G and the other 50% are VG to EX (mostly VG, nothing above EX) My Cost: $110 + 18% (auction fee and sales tax) + $15 (priority S/H, insured) Conservative Trade Value: $240-$360 (depending on whether you trust Beckettor SCD more) Purchase Total: $145 The numbers included in this lot are as follows (with approximate condition): 3, 4, 6(Boone VG), 7, 9(Gomez EX), 13(Face FR), 14(Boyer VG), 16(Lopez RC FR), 18,19, 21(Collins GD), 22, 24(Groat VG), 27, 28, 29, 34, 37, 38, 39, 40(Turley FR), 42(Amoros VG), 44, 45(Zernial GD), 46, 49, 50 ,51, 52, 53, 54,56, 57, 58(Roebuck GD), 59, 60, 62, 65, 66, 68, 69(Tanner VG), 70, 71, 73,74, 76, 78, 80(Triandos FR), 81, 82, 84, 87, 89, 91, 92, 93, 96, 98, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 114, 115(Jensen VG), 116, 117(Trucks VG), 123, 124, 128, 129, 137, 139(Carroll VG), 143(Piersall GD), 144, 147, 149, 151, 153(Thomas GD), 155(Kuenn FR), 156, 157, 158, 160, 161, 167, 169, 170(Virdon GD), 171, 174, 179, 184, 185, 193, 197, 198, 202, 203, 204, 206, 209, 214, 215(Byrne FR), 217, 218, 221(Friend FR), 222, 223, 224, 227, 232, 233(Erskine VG), 237, 238, 239, 243, 244(Buhl FR), 245, 247, 249, 250(Doby GD), 256, 261, 263, 264, 267, 269, 270, 272, 273, 275, 277, 278, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 290(Simmons GD), 291, 294, 296(Seminick VG), 297, 301, 302, 305, 306, 307(Wilhelm GD), 309(Blasingame RC VG), 310, 311, 312(Pafko GD), 314, 318, 319, 320(Adcock GD), 322, 323, 325, 330, 331, 335, 337, 339 If interested in the starter, or if you have any questions at all, let me know. PS - As a teaser, and shifting gears, the next 2 I will be working on with the '76 and '79 Topps. No Ozzie RC and a few other stars missing, but both are near complete and NICE overall! Details Coming Soon! ================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 12:13:52 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Wax Subject: fantasy baseball anyone? Do any of you guys play fantasy baseball? (or want to?) I run a prize fantasy baseball league every year (and also football), and wanted to open it upto OBC members if anyone is interested. Entry fee is $30 and first prize is a Mickey Mantle signed baseball. There will also be otherconsolation prizes. (probably 20 teams in the league, standard 5x5 roto, on yahoo.) let me know if you want to play and i'll send you an invitation. Only 3 openingsleft so its first come, first serve. or email me with any questions.... Thanks, Hopefully this is ok to ask on the OBC ramblings group.... Brandon Wax ================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:29:32 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings From: Jake Elwell Subject: Katie Uhlaender coped with father's loss in preparation for Sochi - CSMonitor.com Nice Olympics story with an OBC angle -- I doubt I'm the only one with dozens of Ted Uhlaenders. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Olympics/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0211/Katie-Uhlaender-coped-with-father-s-loss-in-preparation-for-Sochi ================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:28:09 -0500 To: Jake Elwell From: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Katie Uhlaender coped with father's loss in preparation for Sochi - CSMonitor.com I can still recall as a seven year old trading a 68 Mantle for a Uhlaendaertrying to get all the Twins....thanks for sharing. PS - no, I won't make that trade with any of you! Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Jake Elwell wrote: > Nice Olympics story with an OBC angle -- I doubt I'm the only one with dozens of Ted Uhlaenders. > http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Olympics/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0211/Katie-Uhlaender-coped-with-father-s-loss-in-preparation-for-Sochi ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:34:55 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1979 Topps starter set (Ozzie-less) This one's a bit of a change of pace and is the "newest vintage" binder of the I'm open to almost any trade/purchase/combo offers on this one, so if you are interested let me know. Starter Set: 1979 Topps (717/726 cards total, includes pages and binder) Condition: 95% pack fresh, about 3% NM. Centering is the only distraction on some of these (typical of the late '70s), but except for a handful of cards, they all have borders front and back. I may have missed a few commons of lesser condition but I checked through all the listed stars. The exceptions to the overall condition are listed below. Condition Exceptions: 24 - Molitor (EXMT) 115 - Ryan (VG+) 232 - Sexton (ink on back) 330 - Brett (EX) 340 - Palmer (EX+) 381 - Astros TC (checklist marked on back) 404 - White Sox TC (checklist marked on back) 411 - All Time Hits Leaders (Cobb/Sisler) (EXMT) 428 - Valentine (white gunk on back) 544 - Jenkins (EX) 577 - Brewers TC (checklist marked on back) 665 - Brock (EX) 680 - Fisk (EXMT) 700 - Jackson (EXMT) Missing cards: 6 - Strikeout Leaders (Richard/Ryan) 116 - Smith RC 310 - Munson 318 - Welch RC 346 - Buckner 369 - Wills 469 - Parrish 551 - Cubs TC 640 - Murray http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:37:07 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Patrick Prickett Subject: My W572 Research Hi All, I recently wrote an article that summarized my research on the 1923 W572 set, and I thought I would share it with the group. If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, I'd love to hear them. ================= Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 08:12:04 -0500 To: Patrick Prickett From: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My W572 Research [1 Attachment] awesome article, thanks for sharing! On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Prickett < patrick_prickett@yahoo.com> wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#14423f486f24e45e_TopText> from Patrick Prickett > included below] > Hi All, > I recently wrote an article that summarized my research on the 1923 W572 > set, and I thought I would share it with the group. > If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, I'd love to hear them. > Cheers, > Patrick ================= To: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:35:44 -0800 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: My W572 Research It looks like a great article. I caught the clues from the miscut cards and will read the rest soon. A nice trip back into old sets. The actresses are probably as hard to find as the baseball - but a lot cheaper. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:46:51 -0800 (PST) To: Joel Freedman From: Patrick Prickett Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My W572 Research [1 Attachment] Wait til you see what I put out on the 1952 Topps set! All I need is a Maxwell and Reiser greyback and then I can publish what I know. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 5:12 AM, Joel Freedman awesome article, thanks for sharing! On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Prickett >[Attachment(s) from Patrick Prickett included below] >Hi All, >I recently wrote an article that summarized my research on the 1923 W572 set, and I thought I would share it with the group. >If you have any comments, questions or suggestions, I'd love to hear them. ================= Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:07:14 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Patrick Prickett Subject: Can I ask a dumb "Wide Pen" question? Okay this is probably a dumb question - butcan someone explain to me whythe 1936 Goudey Wide Pen Lloyd Waner without the Litho is consider a Type 1 variation card, instead of being considered a Type 2 card (after all these all are without the Litho anyway and there is no Lloyd Waner in this set,so how do people know the Lloyd Waner is not just an addition to that checklist)? I'm sure there's a good reason (like this makes the type 2 set 24 and the type 1 set 120 - which are divisible by 12 and that might have something to do with the printing on the sheet), but I don't know what it is. ================= Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 00:01:56 -0500 (EST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Price guide help... I've been making inroads via Evilbay and I'm down to a small number on a couple. Does anyone have a more up to date SCD than my 2007 version and can give me "book" on these so I don't over do a bidding frenzy? Thanks in 1952 Bowman- Need 8 (actually 7, Feller is in the mail) 43- Feller 53- Ashburn 101- Mantle 145- Mize 196- Musial 248A- Werle missing W 252- Crosetti 1958 Topps Yellow- Need 8 2- Lemon 8- Kasko 20- McDougald 61- Johnson 79- Williams 97- Jackson 433-Herrera error 1959 Topps Variations- Need 4 (Actually 3, Lumenti on the way) 40A- Spahn (1931 complete) 316- Lumenti (No Optioned Statement) 366- Loes (No Traded Statement) 362- Nichols (No Option Statement) ================= Date: 13 Feb 2014 00:15:52 -0800 To: From: Subject: Dealer with variations for a 1979 or... ================= To: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:31:54 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: 2014 OBCAC nomination time nearing end To date 7.9% of the OBC membership has participated in the nomination process for the 2014 OBCAC. Fortunately we have a good selection of candidates. Still waiting on confirmation from several nominees, need those by this Saturday. It speeds things up if you get confirmation prior to nomination but either way is acceptable. If you have a candidate that you want on the committee send me a note. If you want to serve on the committee, post something to that effect and someone will probably support that desire and provide nomination. Let's ensure YOUR guys are on the ballot. I look forward to having the ballots posted and voting started this Sunday. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= To: Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:39:28 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: super bowl updates The Super numbers have cruised by 5200! just so you guys know, I'm off to the Bahamas next week. I'm behind on my thanks, but I have been keeping real good track of what is what. I'll send out my thanks, along with pictures :) and update the web page when I get back. Keep sending in those #'s when you send off spoils. This group is awesome! Go OBC! ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:48:35 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1976 Topps starter set available Here's another starter set from the mid-70s. I'm open to almost any trade/purchase/combo offers on this one, so if you are interested let me know. Starter Set: 1976 Topps (635/660 cards, 21/44 Traded cards, includes pages and Condition: about 80% NM, about 15% EXMT, the rest lesser. Centering is a bit better than the '79 binder. I may have missed a few commons of lesser condition but I checked through all the listed stars. The exceptions to the overall condition are listed below. Condition Exceptions for listed cards: 5 - Seaver RB (EX) 330 - Ryan (EX) 340 - Rice (VGEX) 349 - Johnson All Time RHP (EX) 365 - Fisk (VG) 420 - Morgan (VGEX) 480 - Schmidt (EX, due to OC) 500 - Jackson (VGEX) The following Team Cards are in nice condition except with the backs have checklist 104, 216, 304, 531, 556, 581 Missing Cards: 19 (Brett), 98 (Eckersley RC), 112, 118, 130, 160 (Winfield), 194 (LL), 195(LL), 197 (LL), 199 (LL), 240 (Rose), 268, 316 (Yount), 355 (Carlton), 380, 441 (Carter), 453, 461, 462, 526, 540, 550 (Aaron), 564, 576, 640 http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 15:57:50 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings From: Jake Elwell Subject: Lest we forget: Jim Fregosi Sad news about another dupes box mainstay... http://www.ronkaplansbaseballbookshelf.com/2014/02/14/lest-we-forget-jim-fregosi/ ================= To: Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2014 20:08:26 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: OBCAC nominee update First off, thanks to the 10 OBCers that provided nominations for the 2014 OBCAC. With 4 hours remaining we have had 29 nominees. To date we have 18 accepted nominees, 9 declines and 2 non-responders to confirmation follow-up. It is not too late to get your nomination in for the election. I probably won't be up at midnight to confirm timeliness so anything prior to the morning batch of email is ok. Will get the election ballots out tomorrow. The list of 2014 candidates is really good. We will no doubt have a quality committee again this year. Thanks for your participation to this point. Mark Holland http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= To: Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 07:52:48 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: OBCAC voting begins - everyone needs to vote Here are the list of nominees for the 2014 OBCAC. Please return your vote prior to midnight 2/28. You will be voting for 2 positions; facilitator (1) and voting members (7). The candidate finishing 8th will serve in a nonvoting capacity as this year's alternate. A copy of the election bylaws are included below for your review. Good luck to the candidates; let the voting begin. Facilitator (1) 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt Voting Members (7) 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt 1. Election Commissioner - One OBC member will be appointed by the OBCAC Facilitator as "Election Commissioner" (Commissioner). That person will keep track of nominations, balloting and announcing the results of OBC 2. Nominations - Each year from February 1 thru February 14, the Commissioner will accept nominations to be a candidate in simultaneous elections for (a) "OBC AC Facilitator" and (b) "OBC AC member". A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions, however the successful candidate for the position of OBC AC Facilitator will not be allowed to serve as an OBC AC member. In this circumstance, a seat on the OBC AC will fall to the eighth placed nominee on the OBC AC members ballot. Self nominations are not allowed. Inactive members are not allowed to be nominated nor serve on the OBCAC. . 3. It is the Commissioner's responsibility to obtain AC nominee's acceptance of nomination prior to Feb 15. If nomination is not accepted by Feb 15, the nominee will not appear on the ballot. 4. Candidate qualifications - Anyone who has been in OBC for at least three years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. 5. Acceptance of nomination - All nominations must be approved of by the nominee. 6. Election - From February 15 through the end of the month, it is the responsibility for each member of OBC to send in a ballot to the Commissioner listing their choices for seven voting members and one non-voting Facilitator. Inactive members are allowed to vote. The Commissioner will keep track of all ballots. 7. OBCAC Voting Member Election - The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the OBCAC. 8. OBCAC Facilitator Election - The member with the highest number of votes in the election for OBC AC Facilitator will serve as OBC AC 9. Election results - The Commissioner shall release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. Actual vote totals shall be available privately for 30 days after the election. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= Date: 16 Feb 2014 08:55:44 -0800 To: From: Subject: New Yahoo group format--yuck ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:02:20 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Waiver Wire - 55 Bowman Football Have not done one of these in ages - somebody must need these 55 Bowman Football cards - all pretty decent shape, given our lack of standards. Claim away, include your address: 003 009 043 060 091 Bill Malson ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:05:31 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Waiver Wire - 59 Topps Football Another football waiver wire - 59 Topps football. Condition varies. Claim away, include your address: 042 084 085 089 089 096 131 134 135 136 143 165 170 172 Bill Malson ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:06:45 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Waiver Wire - 59 Topps Football Another football waiver wire - 59 Topps football. Condition varies. Claim away, include your address: 042 084 085 089 089 096 131 134 135 136 143 165 170 172 Bill Malson ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:12:33 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Waiver Wire 59 Topps Football One more waiver wire - 1960 Topps Football. Condition OBC typical. Claim away, include your address: 046 052 062 065 075 075 085 091 103 108 112 Bill Malson ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:12:50 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Waiver Wire 59 Topps Football One more waiver wire - 1960 Topps Football. Condition OBC typical. Claim away, include your address: 046 052 062 065 075 075 085 091 103 108 112 Bill Malson ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 13:03:38 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: Waiver Wire - 1960 Topps Football Boy, am I out of practice - sent this out before as 1959 (but I did send a correct 1959 waiver as well). One more waiver wire - 1960 Topps Football. Condition OBC typical. Claim away, include your address: 046 052 062 065 075 075 085 091 103 108 112 Bill Malson ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 16:45:34 -0800 (PST) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: 68 topps gremlins picked up a lot of 68 topps recently and went to the binder for upgrading. while doing so I found a number of missing cards. hoping I can pick some of them up here. thanks for looking and of course return fire will be sent out as I can. thanks again #290 McCovey #375 Freehan AS #377 Horlan AS #460 Lonborg #463 Schaffer managers dream #546 White #562 Bouton John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 17:29:44 -0800 (PST) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: mark zentkovich Subject: anyone chatting tonight on net54? anyone interested in some chat and trade? mark zentkovich ================= Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 21:12:19 -0800 (PST) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , From: mark zentkovich Subject: new set started - 73 topps baseball started new set, only have about 100 low grade preferred thanks for any help you can give link below thanks, mark zentkovich http://markzent.weebly.com/70s-baseball.html ================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 06:33:05 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: I won this ebay auction BUT was a "shill" bid utilized? I have read enough about ebay =93shill=94 bids to know for sure that it occurs. According to some on the Net54 boards, you almost have to assume it will occur. So the best way to bid, is to snipe the auction and just enter the most you are willing to pay. Don=92t pay attention to the bidding history. I have been after a Joe Namath rookie card (1965 Topps =93Tall-boy=94 shortprint #122 NM price $1,800) for over two years. It is a difficult card to obtain. I have the money set aside for this card, it=92s gift money and extra money I=92ve saved just for this card. I always lose the auctions, but this time I placed a very strong bid with the very most I am willing to pay $333.33 I used an auction sniper tool to place a last second bid. NO ONE WILL OUTBID ME THIS TIME! (lol) I did win the auction for $316.90 a little below my maximum bid. But to me it appears that someone entered a =93shill=94 bid in order to realize a certain link to bidding history: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksidp2047675.l2565&rtnc&item271397841827 to me it appears that bidder _***t may have entered a shill bid taking the card from $146.50 to what the card sold for. This bidders feedback is listed as (private). 98% positive and 18% of this bidders activity is with this certain seller and also the bidder has two bid retractions during the current 30 day period. The sellers feedback is 100% positive with over 21,000 feedback reports, Ihave never bought a card from this seller. After having said all this, I still want the card, and have already paid for it via paypal. I am asking for your opinions on this transaction, if you think this auction was shilled. I do not have much experience with shill bidders, but it just looks shady to me. If this auction was shilled, I will call the seller on it via the feedback system leaving negative feedback if he does not correct the problem. I also know that shill bids can be reportedon ebay and I will report it, if the opinion is that the auction was shillbid. Please keep the discussion here or via private email to me. And please nobody contact the seller, I may be totally wrong about this whole situation. Thanks for your time. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 04:07:52 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I won this ebay auction BUT was a "shill" bid utilized? Hi Larry, Tough one. Without being able to review other auctions that this bidder hasparticipated in, its going to be hard to prove. I imagine that you would have to establish a link between bidder and seller, and given the way that ebay now anonymises user names that will be difficult. And I can't see ebay investigating an allegation without the knowledge of the parties (or perhaps party) involved. Like you, I'm convinced that shill bidding occurs on a routine basis, especially for higher ticket items. Proving it is another thing though, and I don't get the impression that ebay are seriously concerned unless a disgruntled buyer can provide hard evidence (evidence to show that the bidder and seller are one and the same person/company). Even then, I'd guess that they'dbe inclined to drag their feet. The onus seems to be very much ON THE BUYER to carry out an investigation. And given the millions of transactions that occur and the number of allegations that likely fly around on a daily basis, is that really all that surprising? I've got to the stage where I now just plunk in a max bid then forget aboutit. If I win, great. If not either someone wanted it more than me or the seller didn't want to part with it and couldn't be bothered setting a reserve price. Either way, I just move on. Probably not what you you were hoping to hear, but my 2 cents. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I won this ebay auction BUT was a "shill" bid utilized? I have read enough about ebay =E2=9Cshill=E2=9D bids to know for surethat it occurs. According to some on the Net54 boards, you almost have to assume it will occur. So the best way to bid, is to snipe the auction and just enter the most you are willing to pay. Don=E2=99t pay attention to the bidding history. I have been after a Joe Namath rookie card (1965 Topps =E2=9CTall-boy=E2=9D short print #122 NM price $1,800) for over two years. It is a difficult card to obtain. I have the money set aside for this card, it=E2=99s gift money and extra money I=E2=99ve saved just for this card. I always lose the auctions, but this time I placed a very strong bid with the very most I am willing to pay $333.33 I used an auction sniper tool to place a last second bid. NO ONE WILL OUTBID ME THIS TIME! (lol) I did win the auction for $316.90 a little below my maximum bid. But to me it appears that someone entered a =E2=9Cshill=E2=9D bid in order to realize a certain price. link to bidding history: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksidp2047675.l2565&rtnc&item271397841827 to me it appears that bidder _***t may have entered a shill bid taking the card from $146.50 to what the card sold for. This bidders feedback is listed as (private). 98% positive and 18% of this bidders activity is with this certain seller and also the bidder has two bid retractions during the current 30 day period. The sellers feedback is 100% positive with over 21,000 feedback reports, I have never bought a card from this seller. After having said all this, I still want the card, and have already paid for it via paypal. I am asking for your opinions on this transaction, if you think this auction was shilled. I do not have much experience with shill bidders, but it just looks shady to me. If this auction was shilled, I will call the seller on it via the feedback system leaving negative feedback if he does not correct the problem. I also know that shill bids can be reportedon ebay and I will report it, if the opinion is that the auction was shillbid. Please keep the discussion here or via private email to me. And please nobody contact the seller, I may be totally wrong about this whole situation. Thanks for your time. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:51:37 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: Shill Bid From my research it appears anyone can set their feedback to private. Maybe a person does not want ANYONE knowing what they are buying (like a spouseor ex spouse for example) the downside to selecting private is you are notallowed to sell items. Also it's not easy for me to bring this up I hope nobody thinks I am a dummy or a crybaby or for that matter rich hahaha! But maybe I can learn from this. Also now someone tells me there are fakes out there! > • ================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:25:58 -0800 (PST) To: Larry Tipton , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shill Bid Larry -- If you look at the Bidder's history, he has bids with six different sellers. That would lead me to believe he's not a shill bidder, since a shill bidder tends to be concentrated on one, or maybe two sellers. My guess is that it was a guy who wanted the card as well=E2=A6 Take Care, > From: Larry Tipton >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 5:51 AM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shill Bid >From my research it appears anyone can set their feedback to private. Maybe a person does not want ANYONE knowing what they are buying (like a spouse or ex spouse for example) the downside to selecting private is you are not allowed to sell items. >Also it's not easy for me to bring this up I hope nobody thinks I am a dummy or a crybaby or for that matter rich hahaha! But maybe I can learn from this. >Also now someone tells me there are fakes out there! ================= To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, larrytipton@windstream.net, Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:21:09 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shill Bid Also, his proxy bids (when you click on the automatic bid link) does not show a lot of activity...shill bidders often will bid several times in a row,retract often, and stay with one seller...I do not think this is a shill. If you want to get shilled...bid in any probstein or pwcc auction...they shill constantly and blatantly. -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner To: Larry Tipton ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Feb 17, 2014 5:26 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shill Bid Larry -- If you look at the Bidder's history, he has bids with six different sellers. That would lead me to believe he's not a shill bidder, since a shill bidder tends to be concentrated on one, or maybe two sellers. My guess is that it was a guy who wanted the card as well=E2=A6 Take Care, From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shill Bid From my research it appears anyone can set their feedback to private. Maybe a person does not want ANYONE knowing what they are buying (like a spouseor ex spouse for example) the downside to selecting private is you are notallowed to sell items. Also it's not easy for me to bring this up I hope nobody thinks I am a dummy or a crybaby or for that matter rich hahaha! But maybe I can learn from this. Also now someone tells me there are fakes out there! ================= Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:23:43 -0500 To: Larry Tipton , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I won this ebay auction BUT was a "shill" bid ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:50:07 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: 1979 Topps starter set (Ozzie-less) Any interest in this? Otherwise it's off to you-know-where. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html This one's a bit of a change of pace and is the "newest vintage" binder of the I'm open to almost any trade/purchase/combo offers on this one, so if you are interested let me know. Starter Set: 1979 Topps (717/726 cards total, includes pages and binder) Condition: 95% pack fresh, about 3% NM. Centering is the only distraction on some of these (typical of the late '70s), but except for a handful of cards, they all have borders front and back. I may have missed a few commons of lesser condition but I checked through all the listed stars. The exceptions to the overall condition are listed below. Condition Exceptions: 24 - Molitor (EXMT) 115 - Ryan (VG+) 232 - Sexton (ink on back) 330 - Brett (EX) 340 - Palmer (EX+) 381 - Astros TC (checklist marked on back) 404 - White Sox TC (checklist marked on back) 411 - All Time Hits Leaders (Cobb/Sisler) (EXMT) 428 - Valentine (white gunk on back) 544 - Jenkins (EX) 577 - Brewers TC (checklist marked on back) 665 - Brock (EX) 680 - Fisk (EXMT) 700 - Jackson (EXMT) Missing cards: 6 - Strikeout Leaders (Richard/Ryan) 116 - Smith RC 310 - Munson 318 - Welch RC 346 - Buckner 369 - Wills 469 - Parrish 551 - Cubs TC 640 - Murray http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= To: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 19:29:29 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: OBCAC voting in progress We have had 28.3% of our members submit their ballots already. Just to clarify the ballot, we did not have a nominee for Facilitator so I included all nominees for both positions. The person with the highest number of facilitator votes will be "asked" if they are willing to accept the position. If they decline we will go to the second highest "vote getter" until someone fills the role. So what does this mean to you as a voter? You can vote for an individual as the facilitator AND voting member. Several have done that but I wanted to make sure it was clear to all. If you have any questions feel free to ask. And thank you for the good turnout to this point. 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt Voting Members 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:47:06 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: shill Thanks for all the feedback and tips, and most believe the auction was not shilled. Best case scenario for this seller, two bidders who want the card:) The pitfalls of an auction. Shill bids do happen, we should expect them. Most suggest just bid the max amount you are willing to pay (which I did) and don't worry about the shenanigans if they occur. ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 05:01:36 -0800 To: Larry Tipton From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] re: shill If you at the completed ones several psa 1 went for 340$ and cheapest raw was 300$ all others go up from there. So yes it looks like a another guy wanted it like you and you got it for the going price. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 18, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Larry Tipton wrote: > Thanks for all the feedback and tips, and most believe the auction was not shilled. Best case scenario for this seller, two bidders who want the card:) The pitfalls of an auction. Shill bids do happen, we should expect them. Most suggest just bid the max amount you are willing to pay (which I did)and don't worry about the shenanigans if they occur. > Guru ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 08:07:17 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Brandon Wax Subject: Mickey's sportscards discount I was buying a few cards online this week from Mickeys sportscards. He mentioned that he would offer 10% off any cards graded G-VG or worse to OBC members so i wanted to pass the word along. Use the discount code OBC10 of you want to. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just bought a few cards in the past and have always been pleased with the condition and customer service. I hope this is ok to post, i dont want to step on any toes of the OBC reccomended dealers that we already have listed on the site. He did mention that he'd like to become an OBC recommended dealer but i didnt really know what's involved with that, so i just told him i'd send an email to the group. Here's the link to the site if you want to see it. Pretty good inventory of vintage cards and autographed cards. http://www.mickeys-sportscards.com/ B Wax ================= To: , Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:09:20 +0000 From: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Mickey's sportscards discount Hello All, I have purchased some cards in the recent past. Not always a deal since most cards are great shape but he describes the conditions well. Anthony Arbeeny From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Wax Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 11:07 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mickey's sportscards discount I was buying a few cards online this week from Mickeys sportscards. He mentioned that he would offer 10% off any cards graded G-VG or worse to OBC members so i wanted to pass the word along. Use the discount code OBC10 of youwant I'm not affiliated with them in any way, just bought a few cards in the past and have always been pleased with the condition and customer service. I hope this is ok to post, i dont want to step on any toes of the OBC reccomended dealers that we already have listed on the site. He did mention that he'd like to become an OBC recommended dealer but i didnt really know what's involved with that, so i just told him i'd send an email to the group. Here's the link to the site if you want to see it. Pretty good inventory ofvintage cards and autographed cards. http://www.mickeys-sportscards.com/ B Wax The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:44:48 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Subject: Re: Mickey's sportscards discount Thats true and i told mickeys the same thing- that most obc'ers are lookingfor lower grade deals. He says he's planning to add some lower grade bulk lots in the future too. Just a fyi. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:49:48 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Boston restaurant recommendations wanted! Hey guys! As some of you might know, Maureen and I (along with 6 other family and friends) are heading over to Boston for a week in September to celebrate her birthday. Its one of those ones that finishes with a '0', but I'm forbidden to say under threat of death. Anyway, we will be heading out one evening for a celebration night - dinner, drinks.....the whole shebang. What we need though is a few recommendations. Can any of you guys suggest a place where we could spend several hours over cocktails and good food? Preferably in the downtown Boston area. If you can help me out, please contact me personally rather than over the server. Looking forward to seeing what you might come up with!! Glasgow, Scotland Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Glenn Codere , OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:07:38 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Boston restaurant recommendations wanted! Ahhh.... I know what it is... it's 29.0, right? ;) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; detroit-tigers@googlegroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:49:48 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Boston restaurant recommendations wanted! Hey guys! As some of you might know, Maureen and I (along with 6 other family and friends) are heading over to Boston for a week in September to celebrate her birthday. Its one of those ones that finishes with a '0', but I'm forbidden to say under threat of death. Anyway, we will be heading out one evening for a celebration night - dinner, drinks.....the whole shebang. What we need though is a few recommendations. Can any of you guys suggest a place where we could spend several hours over cocktails and good food? Preferably in the downtown Boston area. If you can help me out, please contact me personally rather than over the server. Looking forward to seeing what you might come up with!! GlennGlasgow, Scotland Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your MusicGlenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:09:53 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Brandon Subject: Re: Mickey's sportscards discount The website has them located in Estes Park, Colorado. Sent from my iPhone ================= To: "'OBC ramblings'" Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:14:47 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: 1956 Topps- card sheets...... So here's the situation......I am down to about 20-25 or so for the set, with some biggies to go yet. Yes, it is a real beater set, but then again, I am a man of very low standards. It occurred to me just today how annoyed I am that I can't see them....they are all in a box in the dark, buried in the closet. And I really happen to like this set, and would like to see them in a binder like the others. I have no access to card supplies (or any other similar type card store anything!) up here, so I explored the internet for mail order........all boxes of 100 sheets, with outrageous shipping. So I have a dilemma....bite the bullet at the expense of my card budget, or just trim the cards to fit the sheets I do have? At least then they would have corners I guess. I would rather keep them just as they are, but don't need 100 sheets. Total of 340 in the set (I'm not doing variations.......yet!). Simple Rainsley math dictates that 340 divided by 8 cards per sheet works out to 42.5 sheets required. So I guess the actual number needed is 43. So, the question is, would anyone who has better and cheaper access to these sheets be interested in splitting a box or something? Just thinking there must be someone in this group in the same boat. Of course postage would be covered from my end, as well as the cost of the sheets. And if this is my biggest problem in life, then life is good. Thanks, Grant ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:23:08 -0500 (EST) To: grains@shaw.ca, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... Content-Language: en Grant, I wouldn't cut them. Have you tried Bags Unlimited? https://www.bagsunlimited.com/showProduct.aspx?SEName3-ring-binder-pages&ProductID2551 In a message dated 2/18/2014 6:14:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grains@shaw.ca writes: So here=E2=99s the situation......I am down to about 20-25 or so for the with some biggies to go yet. Yes, it is a real beater set, but then again,I am a man of very low standards. It occurred to me just today how annoyed I am that I can=E2=99t see them....they are all in a box in the dark, buried the closet. And I really happen to like this set, and would like to see them in a binder like the others. I have no access to card supplies (or any other similar type card store anything!) up here, so I explored the internet for mail order........all boxes of 100 sheets, with outrageous shipping. So I have a dilemma....bite the bullet at the expense of my card budget, or just trim the cards to fit the sheets I do have? At least then they would have corners I guess. I would rather keep them just as they are, but don=E2=99t need 100 sheets. Total of 340 in the set (I=E2=99m not doing variation s.......yet!). Simple Rainsley math dictates that 340 divided by 8 cards per works out to 42.5 sheets required. So I guess the actual number needed is So, the question is, would anyone who has better and cheaper access to these sheets be interested in splitting a box or something? Just thinking there must be someone in this group in the same boat. Of course postage would be covered from my end, as well as the cost of the sheets. And if this is my biggest problem in life, then life is good. Thanks, Grant ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:38:34 -0800 (PST) To: "bskp1@aol.com" , From: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... thanks for the info Chuck, that is by far cheaper than I can get themto John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jdsvintagesportscards.weebly.com/ From: "bskp1@aol.com" To: grains@shaw.ca; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... Grant, I wouldn't cut them. Have you tried Bags Unlimited? https://www.bagsunlimited.com/showProduct.aspx?SEName3-ring-binder-pages&ProductID2551 In a message dated 2/18/2014 6:14:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grains@shaw.ca writes: >So here=E2=99s the situation......I am down to about 20-25 or so for the set, with some biggies to go yet. Yes, it is a real beater set, but then again, I am a man of very low standards. It occurred to me just today how annoyed I am that I can=E2=99t see them....they are all in a boxin the dark, buried in the closet. And I really happen to like this set, and would like to see them in a binder like the others. I have no access to card supplies (or any other similar type card store anything!) up here, so I explored the internet for mail order........all boxes of 100 sheets, with outrageous shipping. So I have a dilemma....bite the bullet at the expense of my card budget, or just trim the cards to fit the sheets I do have? At least then they would have corners I guess. I would rather keep them just as they are, but don=E2=99t need 100 sheets. Total of340 in the set (I=E2=99m not doing variation s.......yet!). Simple Rainsley math dictates that 340 divided by 8 cards per sheet works out to 42.5 sheets required. So I guess the actual number needed is 43. >So, the question is, would anyone who has better and cheaper access to these sheets be interested in splitting a box or something? Just thinking there must be someone in this group in the same boat. Of course postage would be covered from my end, as well as the cost of the sheets. >And if this is my biggest problem in life, then life is good. >Thanks, Grant ================= To: , Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:41:55 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... Good price on the 8-pockets......have to contact them to see what shipping is to Canada.........thanks! From: BSKP1@aol.com [mailto:BSKP1@aol.com] Sent: February-18-14 3:23 PM To: grains@shaw.ca; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... Grant, I wouldn't cut them. Have you tried Bags Unlimited? https://www.bagsunlimited.com/showProduct.aspx?SEName3-ring-binder-pages In a message dated 2/18/2014 6:14:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grains@shaw.ca So here=E2=99s the situation......I am down to about 20-25 or so for theset, with some biggies to go yet. Yes, it is a real beater set, but then again, I am a man of very low standards. It occurred to me just today how annoyed I am that I can=E2=99t see them....they are all in a box in the dark, buried in the closet. And I really happen to like this set, and would like to see them in a binder like the others. I have no access to card supplies (or any other similar type card store anything!) up here, so I explored the internet for mail order........all boxes of 100 sheets, with outrageous shipping. So I have a dilemma....bite the bullet at the expense of my card budget, or just trim the cards to fit the sheets I do have? At least then they would have corners I guess. I would rather keep them just as they are, but don=E2=99t need 100 sheets. Total of 340 in the set (I=E2=99m not doing variation s.......yet!). Simple Rainsley math dictates that340 divided by 8 cards per sheet works out to 42.5 sheets required. So I guess the actual number needed is 43. So, the question is, would anyone who has better and cheaper access to these sheets be interested in splitting a box or something? Just thinking theremust be someone in this group in the same boat. Of course postage would becovered from my end, as well as the cost of the sheets. And if this is my biggest problem in life, then life is good. Thanks, Grant No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7103 - Release Date: 02/18/14 ================= Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:12:58 -0800 To: Grant Rainsley From: Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... This site is showing 50 for $14.40 and 100 for $24.50. Sounds real expensive to me. I pay about $15 for 100 count box out the door. John Stamper On Feb 18, 2014, at 3:41 PM, "Grant Rainsley" wrote: > Good price on the 8-pockets......have to contact them to see what shipping is to Canada.........thanks! > From: BSKP1@aol.com [mailto:BSKP1@aol.com] > Sent: February-18-14 3:23 PM > To: grains@shaw.ca; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... > Grant, I wouldn't cut them. Have you tried Bags Unlimited? > https://www.bagsunlimited.com/showProduct.aspx?SEName3-ring-binder-pages&ProductID2551 > BR, > Chuck > In a message dated 2/18/2014 6:14:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grains@shaw.ca > So here=E2=99s the situation......I am down to about 20-25 or so for the set, with some biggies to go yet. Yes, it is a real beater set, but thenagain, I am a man of very low standards. It occurred to me just today howannoyed I am that I can=E2=99t see them....they are all in a box in thedark, buried in the closet. And I really happen to like this set, and would like to see them in a binder like the others. I have no access to card supplies (or any other similar type card store anything!) up here, so I explored the internet for mail order........all boxes of 100 sheets, with outrageous shipping. So I have a dilemma....bite the bullet at the expense of mycard budget, or just trim the cards to fit the sheets I do have? At least then they would have corners I guess. I would rather keep them just as they are, but don=E2=99t need 100 sheets. Total of 340 in the set (I=E2=99m not doing variation s.......yet!). Simple Rainsley math dictates that340 divided by 8 cards per sheet works out to 42.5 sheets required. So I guess the actual number needed is 43. > So, the question is, would anyone who has better and cheaper access to these sheets be interested in splitting a box or something? Just thinking there must be someone in this group in the same boat. Of course postage would be covered from my end, as well as the cost of the sheets. > And if this is my biggest problem in life, then life is good. > Thanks, Grant > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7103 - Release Date: 02/18/14 ================= Date: 18 Feb 2014 18:31:30 -0800 To: From: Subject: Waiver Wire ================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 02:27:04 -0500 (EST) To: larrytipton@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I won this ebay auction BUT was a "shill" bid utilized? Content-Language: en I am a sniper bidder myself. If I win in the last seconds, I pay right away. I have some pretty good feedback. With that being said, if I was going for the Namath, I would have done the same bid like you. Hence that would count for what looks like a shill bid. This may have been a shill, based on what you said, but it's possible someone else wanted the card like you. Either way you look at it, you got a GREAT deal. Best I saw at Chicago was $950. Congrats on a great pickup! In a message dated 2/17/2014 6:33:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, larrytipton@windstream.net writes: I have read enough about ebay =E2=9Cshill=E2=9D bids to know for sure that it occurs. According to some on the Net54 boards, you almost have to assume it occur. So the best way to bid, is to snipe the auction and just enter the most you are willing to pay. Don=E2=99t pay attention to the bidding history. I have been after a Joe Namath rookie card (1965 Topps =E2=9CTall-boy=E2=9D print #122 NM price $1,800) for over two years. It is a difficult card to obtain. I have the money set aside for this card, it=E2=99s gift money and money I=E2=99ve saved just for this card. I always lose the auctions, but time I placed a very strong bid with the very most I am willing to pay $333.33 I used an auction sniper tool to place a last second bid. NO ONE WILL OUTBID ME THIS TIME! (lol) I did win the auction for $316.90 a little below my maximum bid. But to me it appears that someone entered a =E2=9Cshill=E2=9D bid in order to realize certain price. link to bidding history: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksidp2047675.l2565&rtnc to me it appears that bidder _***t may have entered a shill bid taking the card from $146.50 to what the card sold for. This bidders feedback is listed as (private). 98% positive and 18% of this bidders activity is withthis certain seller and also the bidder has two bid retractions during the current 30 day period. The sellers feedback is 100% positive with over 21,000 feedback reports, I have never bought a card from this seller. After having said all this, I still want the card, and have already paid for it via paypal. I am asking for your opinions on this transaction, if you think this auction was shilled. I do not have much experience with shill bidders, but it just looks shady to me. If this auction was shilled, I will call the seller on it via the feedback system leaving negative feedback if he does not correct the problem. I also know that shill bids can be reported on ebay and I will report it, if the opinion is that the auction was shill Please keep the discussion here or via private email to me. And please nobody contact the seller, I may be totally wrong about this whole situation. Thanks for your time. ================= To: grains@shaw.ca, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 07:26:55 -0500 (EST) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... You might as well get the correct amount from the beginning. We all know you are going to end up going after the variations. Biggest problem is that they keep adding more variations on the 56 set, due to different colorlines by the names on front for some cards. Between the 5 variations of the team cards #100 and lower, the white/gray back #1 - 180, and the color variations, assume there are between 540 - 560 in the set. Get 70 sheets, so you do not have to go back later. The extra 30 sheets would cover the 55Topps set as well, as get a 100 count box. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Grant Rainsley To: 'OBC ramblings' Sent: Tue, Feb 18, 2014 6:14 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1956 Topps- card sheets...... So here=E2=99s the situation......I am down to about 20-25 or so for theset, with some biggies to go yet. Yes, it is a real beater set, but then again, I am a man of very low standards. It occurred to me just today how annoyed I am that I can=E2=99t see them....they are all in a box in the dark, buried in the closet. And I really happen to like this set, and would like to see them in a binder like the others. I have no access to card supplies (or any other similar type card store anything!) up here, so I explored the internet for mail order........all boxes of 100 sheets, with outrageous shipping. So I have a dilemma....bite the bullet at the expense of my card budget, or just trim the cards to fit the sheets I do have? At least then they would have corners I guess. I would rather keep them just as they are, but don=E2=99t need 100 sheets. Total of 340 in the set (I=E2=99m not doing variation s.......yet!). Simple Rainsley math dictates that340 divided by 8 cards per sheet works out to 42.5 sheets required. So I guess the actual number needed is 43. So, the question is, would anyone who has better and cheaper access to these sheets be interested in splitting a box or something? Just thinking theremust be someone in this group in the same boat. Of course postage would becovered from my end, as well as the cost of the sheets. And if this is my biggest problem in life, then life is good. Thanks, Grant ================= To: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 07:58:54 -0800 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: Mickey's sportscards discount The OBC "rules of the road" on this are: For a dealer to be listed on the OBC Friendly Dealer section of the OBC web site requires a recommendation of 5 different OBC members. Any OBC member can petition the OBCAC with the name of an "OBC Friendly Dealer" accompanied by at least 4 additional recommendations for that dealer from the membership. The OBCAC will then decide on the inclusion of the recommended ================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:39:02 -0800 To: OBC ramblings , From: Rick Subject: Yankees tickets This is probably a long shot but my wife was trying to buy my son two tickets for his 21st birthday at Yankee stadium for September 25. Last home gameof the year well single tickets supposedly went on sell at noon she was onthere waiting patiently and the bell click click click no luck. Anyone outthere have any access to tickets? Any help is appreciated Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:55:41 -0800 (PST) To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Dan Angland Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Yankees tickets I was trying to score tickets as well. Scalpers already have them online for 250. DJ's last home game. Try again Monday at 10am, on sale to general public. regards, Dan Angland On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 8:39 PM EST Rick wrote: >This is probably a long shot but my wife was trying to buy my son two tickets for his 21st birthday at Yankee stadium for September 25. Last home game of the year well single tickets supposedly went on sell at noon she was on there waiting patiently and the bell click click click no luck. Anyone out there have any access to tickets? Any help is appreciated Rick >Sent from my iPad ================= To: "DugoutTraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:36:22 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: 1976 Topps starter set available Any interest in this one? Otherwise is heading to the open market... Here's another starter set from the mid-70s. I'm open to almost any trade/purchase/combo offers on this one, so if you are interested let me know. Starter Set: 1976 Topps (635/660 cards, 21/44 Traded cards, includes pages and Condition: about 80% NM, about 15% EXMT, the rest lesser. Centering is a bit better than the '79 binder. I may have missed a few commons of lesser condition but I checked through all the listed stars. The exceptions to the overall condition are listed below. Condition Exceptions for listed cards: 5 - Seaver RB (EX) 330 - Ryan (EX) 340 - Rice (VGEX) 349 - Johnson All Time RHP (EX) 365 - Fisk (VG) 420 - Morgan (VGEX) 480 - Schmidt (EX, due to OC) 500 - Jackson (VGEX) The following Team Cards are in nice condition except with the backs have checklist 104, 216, 304, 531, 556, 581 Missing Cards: 19 (Brett), 98 (Eckersley RC), 112, 118, 130, 160 (Winfield), 194 (LL), 195(LL), 197 (LL), 199 (LL), 240 (Rose), 268, 316 (Yount), 355 (Carlton), 380, 441 (Carter), 453, 461, 462, 526, 540, 550 (Aaron), 564, 576, 640 http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:52:05 -0800 To: OBC ramblings From: Rick Subject: Comc For those of you that buy cards from comc is there a way to offer on a cardor contact the owner to make an offer before giving them the money? It cost too much money to give them money and even more money to Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 04:53:38 -0800 To: OBC ramblings From: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc Sent from my iPad > On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Rick wrote: > For those of you that buy cards from comc is there a way to offer on a card or contact the owner to make an offer before giving them the money? It cost too much money to give them money and even more money to try and get your money back if the offer isn't accepted. > Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:05:49 -0500 (EST) To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comc Content-Language: en Rick, no money changes hands unless and until your offer is accepted. All you need do is deposit a sum with COMC, which is your store credit. As long as this amount is sufficient to cover your offers, you can bid all you like. Also, maximum shipping of $3 is great and you can store each card you've bought in inventory until you accumulate enough cards to make the $3 shipping worthwhile. But, I suggest you contact COMC direct. They are very responsive to Email questions. Regards, In a message dated 2/20/2014 7:53:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com writes: Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2014, at 4:52 AM, Rick <_rick.lyons22@yahoo.com_ (mailto:rick.lyons22@yahoo.com) > wrote: For those of you that buy cards from comc is there a way to offer on a card or contact the owner to make an offer before giving them the money? It cost too much money to give them money and even more money to try and get your money back if the offer isn't accepted. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 02:12:00 +0000 (UTC) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Basic Ramble - Completed sets, Collecting goals, etal... Hello All, I missed out on the discussion on collecting goals last month mostly because I just like to get good deals and hopefully along the way make progress on the sets I am collecting. Ultimately though I strive to finish sets and with that said I just finished my 6 th set for 2014 with the arrival of the `69 OPC Pete Rose card, so since the beginning of the year I have completed(with plenty of help along the way from many of you!!!) : 1939 Churchman Boxing 1940=E2=99s Engrav-a-Pic Movie Stars 1952 Topps Baseball low numbers (with the Mays card) 1963 Topps Baseball (with the Rose RC) 1969 OPC Baseball (w/the Rose) 1977 Topps Cloth (w/the Brett) I=E2=99m still going to be on the lookout for good deals but I am also going to keep my sights on the final cards I need for the Pre-1980 Topps run(not counting `52 HI numbers, `51 Blue backs, `51 Connie Macks, `51 teams,`55 Double-Headers and variations I=E2=99m still looking for). There are (15) cards that I need, they are: 1951 TOPPS RED BACKS 22 (Feller), 36(Zernial-Chicago), 50 (Irvin). 1953 TOPPS 82 (Mantle), 220 (Paige), 244 (Mays) and 280 (Boiling). 1956 TOPPS 135 (Mantle). 1961 TOPPS 572 (B.Roby AS), 578 (Mantle AS), 580 (Kaline AS). 1966 TOPPS 526 (Twins Team), 540 (McLain) and 598 (G.Perry). 1973 TOPPS BLUE TEAM LIST VARIATIONS (VG+ or better - w/no writing) w/1* - Cincinnati . Looking at the list it is easily a shopping list and not one that will generate many trades or RAOK=E2=99s so I will also focus on MSA disc cards this year. I have set up a special page on my site that has just these babies on them, you can see it at: http://www.markstalbot.i8.com/whats_new_6.html So any help on those would be great =E2=93 I have added the two Saga sets and the Subway set of which I have no examples at all. I have many dupes (mostly Isaly, with some Cranes, Savelon and a few others) so send your lists. Now with 6 sets coming off the list I have to put some other sets up so I have added the `48-52 Exhibit Football, `52 Wheaties, `55 Aircraft Exhibits,`58 Hires, `59 Topps Wacky Plaks, and `61 Topps Flocked Football stickers.I know some obscure sets to be sure but they will be fun to look for and perhaps a few of you have some of these and you will contact me. Finally, as so many others have said I hope to get more items out in the mail, respond on the server with thanks in a more timely manner, make anothertrip to the National and shake the hand of a few more fellow traders I have yet to meet. If you have stayed with me this I thank you for indulging me=E2=93 BE WELL!!! REGARDS -------------------- MARK ================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 11:22:53 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings , From: Jake Elwell Subject: Waiver wire: 1971 Fleer World Series Claim away & don't forget your mailing address. I'll try to hit as many different requesters as possible. Note these are Tiptons and some are pretty bad from having once been stored in a damp environment. Ask if you're worried 1971 Fleer World Series: 1 (1903), 4 (1906), 21 (1923), 31 (1933), 34 (1936), 34 (1936), 35 (1937), 47 (1949), 56 (1958), 65 (1967), 67 (1969), 68 (1970) ================= Date: 21 Feb 2014 16:09:11 -0800 To: From: Subject: My belated 2014 collecting goals ================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 17:03:31 -0800 To: OBC ramblings From: Rick Subject: 1962 topps stamps I have been actively collecting these and the 61's for ten years. My question is has anyone ever seen the 62 Sievers A's variation? I don't think I have Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 20:05:38 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCAC voting - update Just an end of the week reminder. We still have 75 members that have not responded (~41% turnout). Believe me, your votes matter. All of the races are really tight and your vote will end up making the difference. Please take time this weekend to submit your vote if you haven't already done so. Voting goes thru February 28th (next Friday). Thanks to those that have already voted and looking forward to hearing from the rest of you. 2014 List Facilitator (1) 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt Voting Members (7) 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt Election Commissioner - One OBC member will be appointed by the OBCAC Facilitator as "Election Commissioner" (Commissioner). That person will keep track of nominations, balloting and announcing the results of OBC elections. 1. Nominations - Each year from February 1 thru February 14, the Commissioner will accept nominations to be a candidate in simultaneous elections for (a) "OBC AC Facilitator" and (b) "OBC AC member". A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions, however the successful candidate for the position of OBC AC Facilitator will not be allowed to serve as an OBC AC member. In this circumstance, a seat on the OBC AC will fall to the eighth placed nominee on the OBC AC members ballot. Self nominations are not allowed. Inactive members are not allowed to be nominated nor serve on the OBCAC. .. 2. It is the Commissioner's responsibility to obtain AC nominee's acceptance of nomination prior to Feb 15. If nomination is not accepted by Feb 15, the nominee will not appear on the ballot. 3. Candidate qualifications - Anyone who has been in OBC for at least three years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. 4. Acceptance of nomination - All nominations must be approved of by the nominee. 5. Election - From February 15 through the end of the month, it is the responsibility for each member of OBC to send in a ballot to the Commissioner listing their choices for seven voting members and one non-voting Facilitator. Inactive members are allowed to vote. The Commissioner will keep track of all ballots. 6. OBCAC Voting Member Election - The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the OBCAC. 7. OBCAC Facilitator Election - The member with the highest number of votes in the election for OBC AC Facilitator will serve as OBC AC 8. Election results - The Commissioner shall release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. Actual vote totals shall be available privately for 30 days after the election. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:56:05 -0800 (PST) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: mark zentkovich Subject: hello, my name is mark...and I am addicted to... PSA Card Slugger if any of you have not heard of this, it is an app for phone/tablet that shows a cropped picture of a card and you have to guess who/year/company/number very addicting! if you have not tried, you should check your favorite app store.. mark zentkovich ================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:39:33 +0000 (UTC) To: vct From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Slabbed cards - interesting proposal. Hello All, I have brought this up in the past but I just came into a stack of slabbed cards that might be better in someone else collection. Here is the deal, I recently picked up a stack of (14) 1961 Nu-Card Football cards all slabbed PSA-8 (with a 9 in there as well), and a group of (4) 1972 NFLPA Football stickers also PSA-8. These don't fit into the binder that I keep these itemsin (obviously) and as I have done with so many other slabbed items will soon be liberated from there plastic tomb. However, there may be some card enthusiast would would enjoy these items just as they are and I believe PSA-8to be a pretty high grade so there might be interest. The catch is I wouldlike "raw" cards in return so that they can go into the binders. So here is a list of what I have as well as a small listing I posted some years ago with the same intent (I just never got around to bustin' them out). Here's the 1961 Nu-Card Football 101 (PSA-8) 116 (PSA-8) - don't need to replace this one. 130 (PSA-8) 131 (PSA-8) 138 (PSA-8) 139 (PSA-8) 140 (PSA-8) 148 (PSA-8) 151 (PSA-8) 154 (PSA-8) 155 (PSA-8) 162 (PSA-9) 175 (PSA-8) 178 (PSA-8) 1972 NFLPA Football Donny Anderson (PSA-8) John Hadl (PSA-8) Floyd Little (PSA-8) Tommy Nobis (PSA-8) Though I must admit these look pretty cool in a plastic tomb. 1948 Bowman Football 64 (PSA-5) 1950 Bowman Football 85 (PSA-4) 1960 Fleer Football 7 (PSA-7) - don't need to replace this one. 128 (BVG-8) - don't need to replace this one. 1961 Fleer Football 162 (BVG-7.5) 220 (PSA-9) - don't need to replace this one. 1983 Topps Football 169 (Montana PSA-8 OC) 1954 Bowman Baseball 28 - birthplace Addison N.J. (PSA-6) 93 - fld ave .983/.966 (PSA-6) - don't need to replace this one. 1980 Topps Basketball 47/30/232 (May, Bird, Sikma PSA-8 ST) - don't need to replace this one. 1989 Fleer Baseball 381 - Johnson ad blacked out (PSA-9 ST) 2002 Topps Heritage Baseball 416 (PGC-9) 2002 UD Graded FB 99 Peterson Making the Grade RC Level 1 (PSA-9) So if there is any interest in any of these please feel free to slip me an email and we can go from there. I now return you to your regularly scheduled Saturday afternoon - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 20:56:03 GMT From: "cardclctor@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 topps stamps ================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:20:57 -0800 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Diamanti Subject: O'Brien passing Greetings CardBoard Lovers: For those of you who have collected and enjoyed the '54 Topps baseball card of the O'Brien brothers, sad news today. Ed O'Brien has died. Here's the first story from the Seattle Times. Will post an obit when printed. Coffeedude Diamanti http://seattletimes.com/html/seattleuniversity/2022966261_obrien22xml.html ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:38:10 -0500 (EST) From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: Dayton show report Met up with TOM HOUSLEY at the Dayton monthly card show today for a little while. Today's show was better than I've seen since last time, seems like some of the dealers that come to this 60 table show generally had accrued some inventory. I saw a few new faces, and they had some bargain boxes with good I was venturing specifically for my own lists, so it was hard letting go ofa 58 Topps Koufax that I ran into for $15 sticker price. Anyhow, I made quite some progress on my 60s and 70s sets, picking up a couple more 72 high # and some of the 67 stars I found pretty cheap. Though I only found 1 cardfor my 73 set, the #613 Bob Boone rookie, Tom later texted me and said the#554 and 595 are accounted for, (Concepcion and Gullett, both Reds)! Thanks to Tom for those two vouchers! Every time I meet up with Tom, I learn something new and crazy about variations of different sets. I swear sometimes the man is making this stuff up, but who am I to question? Am I going to research and try to prove him wrong? Of course not, he knows the stuff quite well, so I listen and take mentalnote hoping to always remember. I wish there were some type of community college course, or maybe a DVD set that is for cardboard education. Might bea pretty cool idea if some of you put together a home video explaining certain aspects of the hobby and the cards you are most familiar with. I once saw a 30 minute interview on PBS with Sy Berger, released I think in 2008? It was very neat and educational how he explained the 52 Topps dump in the early sixties to make room for newer sets and stock. Anyhow, I was somewhat pleased with the vintage tables. It's always nice tohave to decide which tables to spend my money at, plus, I think it usuallyyields better discounts on the tiptons. I would say my highlight would be a $15 pick up of the 1953 Bowman Color #114 "Bob Feller," a 500 book! The card is all there, just severe wrinkles. It's also time to start planning for the National, I hope to attend. I am not certain how many days I'll be able to go, but I at least want to come up for a whole day and perhaps stay a night in a hotel. If all else fails, Ibelieve I live close enough in north Dayton to make the trek for a day andreturn the same night if need be. That's my ramble, thanks for reading! Wes Shepard ================= Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:43:38 -0800 To: OBC ramblings From: Rick Subject: Good week for cards I had a good week for my topps run this week with four hits to the 52 highs. One was an eBay purchase and the other three came from net54 members. Magic number is now 25! Sent from my iPad ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 01:24:04 -0600 From: "Fr. Patrick" Subject: An HOMer passes away.... Dear all, A parishioner of mine here at St. Benilde sent out a prayer request for his uncle, Eddie O'Brien (of the O'Brien twins 1950s Pirates fame) who diedsuddenly at 83 yesterday. Didn't realize I had that connection in my church parish here. We may want to let Frank Thomas know that a teammate of his has gone home to the eternal baseball fields. Father Pat Wattigny ================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 11:30:53 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Rob Bessette Subject: Random football waiver Don't know anything about football. Strictly a baseball guy. These two werethrown into a random lot I bought. Probably not worth anything, but if anyone wants them just give me a shout. ================= Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:27:35 -0800 (PST) To: "obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com" , From: mark zentkovich Subject: wow- 73 attack wow, this group is great put out new 73 list last week, and got pounded! so far have received packages from: JD Dahms Jake Elwell Doug DeJong Tom Elliott Shawn Smart George Vrechek Richard Dingman so many hits, I took the list down, and will repost when I get caught up. please be patient with return fire since I am deep in debt now (but I guessI asked for that!) thanks again for your kindness and generosity, and thanks to some others that may be in transit I will thank you individually as I go through the packages mark zentkovich ================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:29:27 -0800 To: OBC ramblings From: Rick Subject: Need help now Is there any one out there that would help me try and buy Yankees tickets for September 25. Tickets go on sell at ten am est this morning want two tickets for my sons 21st birthday. I will be at work so can't be by a computer. They will probably go in minutes if there is any at all. Tickets can be any where in stadium. If someone has the time please reply to all so I don'thave a bunch of people trying. Thanks Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 08:56:24 -0500 (EST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: o'brien needed some mindless reading for my vacation, so i picked up the 20th anniversary edition of the 20th anniversary edition (was it really almost 45 years ago this came out) of ball four. fun reading, and quite a few choice comments about the recently passed eddie o'brien. back to single degree temps tomorrow, but one last day on the bahamian Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 11:18:28 -0500 (EST) To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: bskp1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need help now Content-Language: en Rick, I went on the site and requested tickets at 10:02 AM. Was immediately placed in a 15-minute waiting line. When it ended, all tickets were sold out. My guess is you'll have to pay at least $500 each for the tickets from Stub Hub or a private seller. BR, Chuck In a message dated 2/24/2014 8:29:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com writes: Is there any one out there that would help me try and buy Yankees tickets for September 25. Tickets go on sell at ten am est this morning want two tickets for my sons 21st birthday. I will be at work so can't be by a computer. They will probably go in minutes if there is any at all. Tickets can any where in stadium. If someone has the time please reply to all so I don't have a bunch of people trying. Thanks Rick Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:17:25 -0800 (PST) To: "smartalecx@aol.com" , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] o'brien Yea, he definitely was NOT a fan of Eddie! > From: "smartalecx@aol.com" >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:56 AM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] o'brien >needed some mindless reading for my vacation, so i picked up the 20th anniversary edition of the 20th anniversary edition (was it really almost45 years ago this came out) of ball four. >fun reading, and quite a few choice comments about the recently passed eddie o'brien. >back to single degree temps tomorrow, but one last day on the bahamian >3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 >Chicago, IL >http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 14:28:58 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: Waiver Wire- 1964 Topps Coins.... 122 Stuart AS, 127 Aparicio AS, 132 Pearson AS, 147 Groat AS. (All in nice shape, no rust) ================= To: "octraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:32:55 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1962 Topps starter set available (400+ cards) Slowly working through these binders and am now able to offer the 1962 binder with the details below. If anyone is interested in this starter, or if you have any questions, let me know. Starter Set 1962 Topps - 400+ total cards (includes 48 semi-high numbers) -I counted 4 times and came up with 4 different numbers just over 400, so I quit. LOL Condition: average VG, mostly VG-EX condition, a few better, some worse. I filled in about 30 missing cards of lesser condition. There were about 380 cards in the original binder. Sale Price: $230 (which includes priority S&H, pages and binder) - I think the semi-high and listed cards below by themselves probably have that in book value, which leaves another 250-300 commons. Trade Value: $500-$600 (based on adjusted condition) Many of the non-common cards are listed below with approximate condition and should give you an idea of the overall condition. 14 - White EX 21 - Kaat VG 22 - checklist GD (unmarked) 24 - Tigers TC VG 28 - Minoso EX 35 - Shwall VG 40 - Cepeda EX 43 - Dodgers TC EXMT (except 2/98 L/R centering) 55 - AL ERA VG 56 - NL ERA EX 57 - AL Win EXMT 58 - NL Win VG 59 - AL K FR (writing) 61 - Cardinals TC VGEX 65 - Richardson VGEX 85 - Hodges VG 86 - Clendenon RC VGEX 98 - checklst (erased marks on front) 100 - Spahn GD 113 - White Sox TC VGEX 125 - Woodling EX 132 - Angels TC EX 140 - Gehrig and Ruth FR (writing on back) 141 - Ruth PR (nice front but back damage) 158 - Braves TC EX 159 - Reniff RC GD 175 - Howard VG 180 - Allison EX 185 - Sheldon EX 192 - checklist VG (unmarked) 194 - Chance RC VG 213 - Ashburn VGEX 218 - Torre RC VG 219 - Downing RC VG 226 - Giants TC VGEX 228 - Long VG 232 - WS1 VG 233 - WS2 VGEX 235 - WS4 Ford GD 236 - WS5 GD 237 - WS Celebration VG 243 - Roberts VGEX 250 - Cash GD 277 - checklist VG (unmarked) 280 - Podres VG 281 - Gibbs RC VGEX 286 - Lopez VG 294 - Phillies TC VGEX 311 - Kubek IA EX 312 - Spahn IA GD 314 - Colavito IA FR 315 - Ford IA GD 316 - Killebrew IA VG 325 - Aparicio EX 334 - Red Sox TC EX 353 - Mazeroski VG 367 - checklist VGEX 370 - Boyer VG 374 - Mauch EXMT 375 - Fairly EXMT 381 - Cardenas EX 384 - Athletics TC VGEX 391 - Mazeroski AS GD 392 - Boyer AS VG 409 - Pirates TC VG 413 - Alou VGEX 423 - Face/Wilhem GD 451 - Tartabull RC GD 460 - Bunning VG 461 - Hubbs RC VG 472 - Colavito AS VG 473 - Howard AS VGEX 480 - Kuenn EXMT 490 - Boyer VGEX 516 - checklist VG (unmarked) 520 - Friend EX http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: 25 Feb 2014 16:40:19 -0800 To: From: Subject: Health Update ================= To: "octraders@yahoogroups.com" , Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:28:35 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: 1962 Topps starter set available (400+ cards) This starter has already been claimed by someone who previously expressed interested. Sorry about that. From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com To: octraders@yahoogroups.com; vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; Subject: 1962 Topps starter set available (400+ cards) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:32:55 -0500 Slowly working through these binders and am now able to offer the 1962 binder with the details below. If anyone is interested in this starter, or if you have any questions, let me know. Starter Set 1962 Topps - 400+ total cards (includes 48 semi-high numbers) -I counted 4 times and came up with 4 different numbers just over 400, so I quit. LOL Condition: average VG, mostly VG-EX condition, a few better, some worse. I filled in about 30 missing cards of lesser condition. There were about 380 cards in the original binder. Sale Price: $230 (which includes priority S&H, pages and binder) - I think the semi-high and listed cards below by themselves probably have that in book value, which leaves another 250-300 commons. Trade Value: $500-$600 (based on adjusted condition) Many of the non-common cards are listed below with approximate condition and should give you an idea of the overall condition. 14 - White EX 21 - Kaat VG 22 - checklist GD (unmarked) 24 - Tigers TC VG 28 - Minoso EX 35 - Shwall VG 40 - Cepeda EX 43 - Dodgers TC EXMT (except 2/98 L/R centering) 55 - AL ERA VG 56 - NL ERA EX 57 - AL Win EXMT 58 - NL Win VG 59 - AL K FR (writing) 61 - Cardinals TC VGEX 65 - Richardson VGEX 85 - Hodges VG 86 - Clendenon RC VGEX 98 - checklst (erased marks on front) 100 - Spahn GD 113 - White Sox TC VGEX 125 - Woodling EX 132 - Angels TC EX 140 - Gehrig and Ruth FR (writing on back) 141 - Ruth PR (nice front but back damage) 158 - Braves TC EX 159 - Reniff RC GD 175 - Howard VG 180 - Allison EX 185 - Sheldon EX 192 - checklist VG (unmarked) 194 - Chance RC VG 213 - Ashburn VGEX 218 - Torre RC VG 219 - Downing RC VG 226 - Giants TC VGEX 228 - Long VG 232 - WS1 VG 233 - WS2 VGEX 235 - WS4 Ford GD 236 - WS5 GD 237 - WS Celebration VG 243 - Roberts VGEX 250 - Cash GD 277 - checklist VG (unmarked) 280 - Podres VG 281 - Gibbs RC VGEX 286 - Lopez VG 294 - Phillies TC VGEX 311 - Kubek IA EX 312 - Spahn IA GD 314 - Colavito IA FR 315 - Ford IA GD 316 - Killebrew IA VG 325 - Aparicio EX 334 - Red Sox TC EX 353 - Mazeroski VG 367 - checklist VGEX 370 - Boyer VG 374 - Mauch EXMT 375 - Fairly EXMT 381 - Cardenas EX 384 - Athletics TC VGEX 391 - Mazeroski AS GD 392 - Boyer AS VG 409 - Pirates TC VG 413 - Alou VGEX 423 - Face/Wilhem GD 451 - Tartabull RC GD 460 - Bunning VG 461 - Hubbs RC VG 472 - Colavito AS VG 473 - Howard AS VGEX 480 - Kuenn EXMT 490 - Boyer VGEX 516 - checklist VG (unmarked) 520 - Friend EX http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:15:12 -0800 (PST) To: "tvalacak@comcast.net" , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Health Update That's awesome=E2=A6TJ! You'll be full speed ahead when the Hawks take the Cup this year!! Take Care, > From: "tvalacak@comcast.net" >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:40 PM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Health Update >Hey gang, >I know some of you have been following my journey on the caringbridge site, but I thought I would post a little update here. Itreally hasbeen quite a journey since being diagnosed in September with luekemia. The last couple of days, we have had some really good news. Last Friday, the 21st, I reached Day 100 since my bone marrow transplant. This is a significant milestone in that the odds of my body accepting my donors (my sister) marrow greatly increase.One of the biggest concerns after the transplant is that patients are at risk for Graf versus Host disease, where the body rejects the new and foreign cells. So, reaching the 100 days is a big step. It doesn't mean that I am safe from Graf versus Host, but it is a good sign. >Yesterday, during our weekly check up, the doctors gave us the results of a bone marrow biopsy that was performed on me last week.The biopsy revealed no sign of luekemia, meaning I am cancer FREE! >So what now. Well, I am still in the recovery stage, trying to get my strength back. I am also still dealing with side effects from chemoand radiation - hands shaking, hands and feet numb. The shaking has subsided, but the numbness is constant and painful. I also have to continue my weekly check ups, as my blood type still needs to switch over to that of my donor. The doctors still caution me to be careful in public and with germs, so I really limit when I go out. I go watch my sons' basketball games and I go walking at the local park district. It isunlikely that I wil be cleared to return to work before school lets out inJune. But I will continue to do what is necessary to recover. >I want to thank those who have written, texted, posted, and of course, cardboard. Your suport has been amazing. I really feel that prayermakes a difference, as does positive thought. Through this whole process, we have truly felt blessed. Blessed to have the support, blessed that the cancer went into remisssion right away, blessed that my sister was a 100% donor. We have tried to maintain a positive attitude thoughtout, always looking forward and not dwelling on why.Thanks for being with me and keep the prayers and good thoughts coming ================= Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 23:45:01 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Health Update All good news, my friend!! Great to hear! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "tvalacak@comcast.net" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:40 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Health Update Hey gang, I know some of you have been following my journey on the caringbridge site,but I thought I would post a little update here. Itreally has been quite a journey since being diagnosed in September with luekemia. The last couple of days, we have had some really good news. Last Friday, the 21st, I reached Day 100 since my bone marrow transplant. This is a significant milestone in that the odds of my body accepting my donors (my sister) marrow greatly increase.One of the biggest concerns after the transplant is that patients are at risk for Graf versus Host disease, where the body rejects the new and foreign cells. So, reaching the 100 days is a big step. It doesn't mean that I am safe from Graf versus Host, but it is a good sign. Yesterday, during our weekly check up, the doctors gave us the results of abone marrow biopsy that was performed on me last week.The biopsy revealed no sign of luekemia, meaning I am cancer FREE! So what now. Well, I am still in the recovery stage, trying to get mystrength back. I am also still dealing with side effects from chemo and radiation - hands shaking, hands and feet numb. The shaking has subsided, but the numbness is constant and painful. I also have to continue my weekly check ups, as my blood type still needs to switch over to that of my donor. The doctors still caution me to be careful in publicand with germs, so I really limit when I go out. I go watch my sons'basketball games and I go walking at the local park district. It is unlikely that I wil be cleared to return to work before school lets out in June. But I will continue to do what is necessary to recover. I want to thank those who have written, texted, posted, and of course, cardboard. Your suport has been amazing. I really feel that prayer makes a difference, as does positive thought. Through this whole process, we have truly felt blessed. Blessed to have the support, blessedthat the cancer went into remisssion right away, blessed that my sister was a 100% donor. We have tried to maintain a positive attitude thoughtout, always looking forward and not dwelling on why.Thanks for being with me and keep the prayers and good thoughts coming ================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:27:13 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: Health Update SUCH GREAT NEWS! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 07:54:56 -0800 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: Health Update Thanks much for the post and the news being good. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:59:25 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: I'm not a complete Luddite, nor completely anit-social, but... I'm sending this note because I don't want to have inadvertently offended anyone (after all, where's the fun in that--if you offend someone you should enjoy it, not be unawares). Over the years I realize that I have received a number of emails requesting that I join various social networks, such as Linked In. As I am not a member of any of them--I think Groucho was right (for those who don't recognize that, he famously said "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member"), I just ignore them. I recognize that they have their purpose, especially for those who are job-hunting, and I have nothing against them. I have been very fortunate to have kept the same job, more of less, for the last 34 years, and now that I think I've begun my 5 year countdown to a life of leisure (or at least doing volunteer jobs that I really like) I don't think I will need to worry about that. So, please don't be offended if you don't hear from me for joining up--it's not you, it's me. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:06:36 -0500 To: From: Jake Elwell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I'm not a complete Luddite, nor completely anit-social, but... I'm pretty sure those "invitations" are usually sent by robots at the respective websites, not by actual human members wanting you to join in. All themore reason to do as you do and DELETE. On Feb 26, 2014, at 12:59 PM, wrote: > I'm sending this note because I don't want to have inadvertently offendedanyone (after all, where's the fun in that--if you offend someone you should enjoy it, not be unawares). Over the years I realize that I have received a number of emails requesting that I join various social networks, such as Linked In. As I am not a member of any of them--I think Groucho was right(for those who don't recognize that, he famously said "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member"), I just ignore them. I recognize that they have their purpose, especially for those who are job-hunting, and I have nothing against them. I have been very fortunate to have kept the same job, more of less, for the last 34 years, and now that Ithink I've begun my 5 year countdown to a life of leisure (or at least doing volunteer jobs that I really like) I don't think I will need to worry about > So, please don't be offended if you don't hear from me for joining up--it's not you, it's me. > Bob > ------------------------------------ > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo Groups Links ================= To: "rdn56@nc.rr.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:10:47 -0600 From: Tim newcomb Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I'm not a complete Luddite, nor completely What Bob said-- I just don't do the networks either, so it's not you, it'sme. Great post Bob- To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rdn56@nc.rr.com Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:59:25 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I'm not a complete Luddite, nor completely anit-social, I'm sending this note because I don't want to have inadvertently offended anyone (after all, where's the fun in that--if you offend someone you should enjoy it, not be unawares). Over the years I realize that I have received a number of emails requesting that I join various social networks, such as Linked In. As I am not a member of any of them--I think Groucho was right (for those who don't recognize that, he famously said "I wouldn't wantto be a member of any club that would have me as a member"), I just ignorethem. I recognize that they have their purpose, especially for those who are job-hunting, and I have nothing against them. I have been very fortunateto have kept the same job, more of less, for the last 34 years, and now that I think I've begun my 5 year countdown to a life of leisure (or at leastdoing volunteer jobs that I really like) I don't think I will need to worry about that. So, please don't be offended if you don't hear from me for joining up--it'snot you, it's me. ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:39:02 -0500 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Who needs Ultra-Pro pages? - A proposal It seems that every so often someone is looking for card pages of varying sizes. And in many cases, those looking aren't close to any dealers or showsthat might supply them. I am fortunate to live in a location that has at least a half-dozen shows a year, and have been buying my supplies from the same dealer for a number of years (who very oddly enough, has the same firstname as me). The guy I buy from has everything from single pages to at least 15-pocket (and maybe 20-pocket as well). Although he doesn't bring each size to the show, he will bring what I need if I let him know ahead of time. So here's my proposal. If you need any sheets, of any size (or other supplies, sleeves, top loaders, etc), let me know what you need and I will gladlysend them to you for cost of the product (plus shipping). I can either getthe sheets individually or by the box. By the box will obviously be cheaper, so if Joe needs 50 4-pockets, and Jim needs 50 4-pockets, I can get themby the box and split the cost. However if it ends up that only 1 person wants 10-sheets of 15-pocket pages, I might have to get them individually. It's been a few months since I got any pages, but I think the 100-pack of 9-pockets were $15 (the odd-ball ones might be slightly higher), with various individual pages something like 20-25 cents a page (not sure of the exactprice but I know his prices were always competitive). What I'm asking for now is to let me know IF you might be interested in doing this and I will put you on "The List". The next show I'll be going to isn't for a couple months (4/19), so probably a couple weeks before the show,I'll send out an email to people on "The List" as a reminder. If you need/want something, let me know and I'll add it to "The Order". If you don't need or want anything, no problem. Then probably about a week before the show, I'll give him a call and confirm he has what we need. If he's out of an item, I'll let those affected know, and it's up to you if you want to get the rest or just cancel everything. If this is something you might be interested in, or if you have any questions about what he might have, just let me know. http://taylorssportscards.weebly.com/baseball.html ================= Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 22:21:01 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I'm not a complete Luddite, nor completely anit-social, b... Content-Language: en I also aapologize i hit accept thinking that i had been asked by them as i hadnt joined the group eitherr and they are all members of groups i work with in hbbies OBC and SABR In a message dated 2/26/2014 12:11:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, apspr@msn.com writes: I also aapologize i hit accept thinking that i had been asked by them as i hadnt joined the group eitherr and they are all members of groups i work with in hbbies OBC and SABR What Bob said-- I just don't do the networks either, so it's not you, it's me. Great post Bob- To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rdn56@nc.rr.com Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:59:25 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I'm not a complete Luddite, nor completely anit-social, but... I'm sending this note because I don't want to have inadvertently offended anyone (after all, where's the fun in that--if you offend someone you should enjoy it, not be unawares). Over the years I realize that I have received a number of emails requesting that I join various social networks, such as Linked In. As I am not a member of any of them--I think Groucho was right (for those who don't recognize that, he famously said "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member"), I just ignore them. I recognize that they have their purpose, especially for those who are job-hunting, and I have nothing against them. I have been very fortunate to have kept the same job, more of less, for the last 34 years, and now that I think I've begun my 5 year countdown to a life of leisure (or at least doing volunteer jobs that I really like) I don't think I will need to worry about that. So, please don't be offended if you don't hear from me for joining up--it's not you, it's me. ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:31:12 -0500 From: Shawn Smart Subject: waiver wire ALL IN OBC CONDITION - 69T #4470T #9771T#28, 9774T #2874T TRADED #262T, 485T, 544T, 616T78T #2479T#41780T #130, 35381T #58, 93, 109, 151, 163, 226, 241, 290, 414, 472, 654,709.=09=09=09=09=09 ================= To: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 07:16:18 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: RE: OBCAC voting - final update Final reminder then I will be done bothering you for this year. We have 64 members that have not voted. The totals are SO close that every vote matters. Today (Friday thru midnight) is the final day to submit your ballot. Please make your selections from the list below and send them to Thanks to the 50% that have already voted. Looking forward to hearing from the other 50% today. 2014 List Facilitator (1) 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt Voting Members (7) 1. Angland, Dan 2. Bannon, Bob 3. Calvert, Geordie 4. Cook, Andy 5. Dahms, John 6. Donaldson, Bob 7. Housley, Tom 8. Labs, Richard 9. Mead, Peter 10. Moleta, James 11. Morganti, Ken 12. Niessen, Rich 13. Rice, Don 14. Rumley-Wells, Mike 15. Stamper, John 16. Talbot, Mark 17. Tipton, Larry 18. Yudt, Matt 1. OBCAC Voting Member Election - The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the OBCAC. 2. OBCAC Facilitator Election - The member with the highest number of votes in the election for OBC AC Facilitator will serve as OBC AC 3. Election results - The Commissioner shall release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. Actual vote totals shall be available privately for 30 days after the election. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 05:23:57 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: OBC AC Election If you haven't voted yet, please, please, please take the time to do so today! The AC put in a lot of work on behalf of OBC members in making decisions - sometimes quite difficult ones - on how our group operates and how it adapts moving forward. This is your chance to put the people that you want into those positions. Believe me, the newly elected members of the 2014/15 OBC AC will be much, much happier in their posts knowing that they have a mandate from as many of the members as possible. Use your vote, my friends! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 12:33:45 -0800 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: How many cards are there? I'm working on an SCD article and the topic is how many cards make up the universe of vintage baseball cards and what would it cost to own them all? Does anyone know off-hand? Not expecting a response, but let me know if you've ever tried to estimate this or thought about it. (This topic came to me as I thought about other vintage sets I could collect, and I had trouble thinking of any "doable" additional sets.) I'm dissecting the SCD Vintage Catalog to come up with the answers but it isn't easy. Once I have the information I want to point out that (except for guys like Mike Rich) most collectors are working on a fraction of the total population of cards. The total vintage card population may "only" be about 125,000 cards in 2,400 sets. The 80/20 rule will apply to values or maybe even 90/10, in that many cards are relatively cheap while a few are incredibly expensive. Most of us, I would guess, own fewer than 25,000 vintage (1863-1980) baseball singles with maybe 20,000 being more typical. If you know how many singles you own, that would be interesting info as well to reference. Forget anything after 1980 because the numbers are goofy. I think my conclusion will be something like that while there are 125,000 vintage cards that could be theoretically collected, that it would be hard to collect more than maybe 30,000 since the rest are either ridiculously priced or were printed in such limited numbers that they are impossible to find. There are collector issues, team issues, and foreign issues that I would subtract from the vintage card universe, but there would still be lots of cards we don't go after (again, except for Mike Rich.) Jefferson Burdick did pretty well for not being a baseball card collector per se. He had about 30,000 individual baseball cards and he threw in the towel on "new" sets about 1953. Let us know on Ramblings, if you have any thoughts on the topic. Thanks. If this is fruitful, I'll look at the other sports as well which might be a lot easier to quantify. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:18:41 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many cards are there? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 8:33 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How many cards are there? I=E2=99m working on an SCD article and the topic is how many cards make up the universe of vintage baseball cards and what would it cost to own them all? Does anyone know off-hand? Not expecting a response, but let me knowif you=E2=99ve ever tried to estimate this or thought about it. (This topic came to me as I thought about other vintage sets I could collect, and I had trouble thinking of any =E2=9Cdoable=E2=9D additional sets.) I=E2=99m dissecting the SCD Vintage Catalog to come up with the answers but it isn=E2=99t easy. Once I have the information I want to point out that (except for guys like Mike Rich) most collectors are working on a fraction of the total population of cards. The total vintage card population may =E2=9Conly=E2=9D be about 125,000 cards in 2,400 sets. The 80/20 rule will apply to values or maybe even 90/10, in that many cards are relatively cheap while a few are incredibly expensive. Most of us, I would guess, own fewer than 25,000 vintage (1863-1980) baseball singles with maybe 20,000 being more typical. If you know how many singles you own, that would be interesting info as well to reference. Forget anything after 1980 because the numbers are goofy. I think my conclusion will be something like that while there are 125,000 vintage cards that could be theoretically collected, that it would be hard to collect more than maybe 30,000 since the rest are either ridiculously priced or were printed in such limited numbers that they are impossible to find. There are collector issues, team issues, and foreign issues that I wouldsubtract from the vintage card universe, but there would still be lots of cards we don=E2=99t go after (again, except for Mike Rich.) Jefferson Burdick did pretty well for not being a baseball card collector per se. He had about 30,000 individual baseball cards and he threw in the towel on =E2=9Cnew=E2=9D sets about 1953. Let us know on Ramblings, if you have any thoughts on the topic. Thanks. Ifthis is fruitful, I=E2=99ll look at the other sports as well which might be a lot easier to quantify. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 21:33:48 -0800 To: George Vrechek , From: David Fallen Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many cards are there? Interesting project, George. Several years ago, an attempt was made to create a database of every baseball card from 1867 to the early 2000's. I was fortunate to get a copy of the data before the Yahoo group that compiled it gave up the ghost. I'm sure it isn't perfect, but I always have found it to be relatively accurate. The numbers I get from this database from 1867 through 1980 are 2,147 sets and 104,730 cards. Of course we could argue forever about what is a "card". The database includes postcards and pins, for example. I'm providing a link to an Excel spreadsheet summarizing the database's sets by year and number of cards per year, along with a chart showing the cumulative number of cards issued (no surprise, but a nice way of visualizing the UV boom). Link: http://home.comcast.net/~david.fallen/Data/BBcard%20Summary.xls The database itself is available if you want it. I carry of copy of it in MYSQL format on my phone. This has come in handy a couple of times at card shows. I look forward to reading the article! Dave Fallen On 2/28/2014 12:33 PM, George Vrechek wrote: > I'm working on an SCD article and the topic is how many cards make up > the universe of vintage baseball cards and what would it cost to own > them all? Does anyone know off-hand? Not expecting a response, but let > me know if you've ever tried to estimate this or thought about it. > (This topic came to me as I thought about other vintage sets I could > collect, and I had trouble thinking of any "doable" additional sets.) > I'm dissecting the SCD Vintage Catalog to come up with the answers but > it isn't easy. Once I have the information I want to point out that > (except for guys like Mike Rich) most collectors are working on a > fraction of the total population of cards. The total vintage card > population may "only" be about 125,000 cards in 2,400 sets. The 80/20 > rule will apply to values or maybe even 90/10, in that many cards are > relatively cheap while a few are incredibly expensive. Most of us, I > would guess, own fewer than 25,000 vintage (1863-1980) baseball > singles with maybe 20,000 being more typical. If you know how many > singles you own, that would be interesting info as well to reference. > Forget anything after 1980 because the numbers are goofy. > I think my conclusion will be something like that while there are > 125,000 vintage cards that could be theoretically collected, that it > would be hard to collect more than maybe 30,000 since the rest are > either ridiculously priced or were printed in such limited numbers > that they are impossible to find. There are collector issues, team > issues, and foreign issues that I would subtract from the vintage card > universe, but there would still be lots of cards we don't go after > (again, except for Mike Rich.) Jefferson Burdick did pretty well for > not being a baseball card collector per se. He had about 30,000 > individual baseball cards and he threw in the towel on "new" sets > about 1953. > Let us know on Ramblings, if you have any thoughts on the topic. > Thanks. If this is fruitful, I'll look at the other sports as well > which might be a lot easier to quantify. > George Vrechek ================= To: "'David Fallen'" , Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 22:01:04 -0800 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] How many cards are there? Dear Dave, This is absolutely what I was looking for. I'll have to compare this list to what I gleaned. What it has that I couldn't get easily was the number of cards in each set. Thanks a million. What I will try to do is to update the list and add values. George Vrechek From: David Fallen [mailto:david.fallen@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:34 PM To: George Vrechek; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How many cards are there? Interesting project, George. Several years ago, an attempt was made to create a database of every baseball card from 1867 to the early 2000's. I was fortunate to get a copy of the data before the Yahoo group that compiled it gave up the ghost. I'm sure it isn't perfect, but I always have found it to be relatively accurate. The numbers I get from this database from 1867 through 1980 are 2,147 sets and 104,730 cards. Of course we could argue forever about what is a "card". The database includes postcards and pins, for example. I'm providing a link to an Excel spreadsheet summarizing the database's sets by year and number of cards per year, along with a chart showing the cumulative number of cards issued (no surprise, but a nice way of visualizing the UV boom). Link: http://home.comcast.net/~david.fallen/Data/BBcard%20Summary.xls The database itself is available if you want it. I carry of copy of it in MYSQL format on my phone. This has come in handy a couple of times at card I look forward to reading the article! Dave Fallen On 2/28/2014 12:33 PM, George Vrechek wrote: I'm working on an SCD article and the topic is how many cards make up the universe of vintage baseball cards and what would it cost to own them all? Does anyone know off-hand? Not expecting a response, but let me know if you've ever tried to estimate this or thought about it. (This topic came to me as I thought about other vintage sets I could collect, and I had trouble thinking of any "doable" additional sets.) I'm dissecting the SCD Vintage Catalog to come up with the answers but it isn't easy. Once I have the information I want to point out that (except for guys like Mike Rich) most collectors are working on a fraction of the total population of cards. The total vintage card population may "only" be about 125,000 cards in 2,400 sets. The 80/20 rule will apply to values or maybe even 90/10, in that many cards are relatively cheap while a few are incredibly expensive. Most of us, I would guess, own fewer than 25,000 vintage (1863-1980) baseball singles with maybe 20,000 being more typical. If you know how many singles you own, that would be interesting info as well to reference. Forget anything after 1980 because the numbers are goofy. I think my conclusion will be something like that while there are 125,000 vintage cards that could be theoretically collected, that it would be hard to collect more than maybe 30,000 since the rest are either ridiculously priced or were printed in such limited numbers that they are impossible to find. There are collector issues, team issues, and foreign issues that I would subtract from the vintage card universe, but there would still be lots of cards we don't go after (again, except for Mike Rich.) Jefferson Burdick did pretty well for not being a baseball card collector per se. He had about 30,000 individual baseball cards and he threw in the towel on "new" sets about 1953. Let us know on Ramblings, if you have any thoughts on the topic. Thanks. If this is fruitful, I'll look at the other sports as well which might be a lot easier to quantify. George Vrechek