================= Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 07:35:23 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: 1961 waiver wire / need list From: Rob Bessette Don=92t know if you guys realize this or not, but last time I checked a waiver wire was supposed to be for cards YOU need. I=92ve gotten some responses and people are throwing cards at me, but nobody has claimed any of MINE. Claim away! Address included, please. (I also updated my need list) On Nov 29, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Rob Bessette wrote: > Looking to knock a couple of commons off my list=85 > 7 White Sox Team > 428 Ray Barker > 453 Dick Schofield > 464 Lee Thomas > 498 Ray Herbert > I have about 50-60 extra 61s that I can offer up in return. Nothing major, but maybe they can help=85 > 4, 9, 11, 12, 14, 28, 32, 55, 57, 62, 64, 70, 72, 76, 88, 93, 94, 111, 112, 114, 121, 131, 134, 136, 137, 139, 142, 146, 148, 149, 152, 153, 154, 156, 161, 162, 166, 171, 172, 174, 175, 177, 178, 179, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 192, 195, 197, 198, 201, 202, 213, 214, 216, 218, 219, 220, 221, 223, 225, 228, 230, 231, 232, 234, 235, 240, 243, 244, 246, 247, 253, 256, 257, 259, 266, 267, 269, 271, 273, 274, 275, 276, 278, 279, 281, 282, 283, 291, 500, 518 > Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! > Rob ================= Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 19:41:14 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waiver wire (second try) From: Thomas Elliott Hey everybody, Don't by shy. Claim away. Also note that if you are looking for 1974, 1974 traded, 1978 and 1979 Topps baseball, I have way too many to list here. Please let me know. They are yours for the asking. These are mostlyl Topps baseball, condition is generally in the fair to good range, with plenty of Tiptons and a few very goods: 1977 -- 81, 216, 566, 647 1976 Traded -- 83T, 85T, 158T, 259T, 338T, 410T, 464T, 554T, 579T, 632T 1976 -- 91, 105, 110, 114, 116, 121, 126, 127, 139, 148, 162, 165, 175, 196, 205, 216, 218, 219, 224, 228, 256, 266, 276, 291, 294, 321, 327, 328, 336, 337, 338, 356, 362, 369, 372, 374, 375, 376, 398, 404, 411, 432, 433, 437,439, 464, 467, 471, 478, 479, 481, 485, 489, 490, 512, 553, 561, 574, 588, 606, 608, 613, 637, 640, 652 1973 -- 40, 93 1971 -- 10, 11, 21, 25, 29, 35, 40, 44, 46, 52, 61, 65, 68, 71, 75, 97, 98, 103, 111, 124, 126, 206, 218, 271, 294, 299, 421, 484, 557 1970 -- 38, 49, 80, 88, 112, 143, 272, 276, 278, 283, 298, 314, 316, 319, 337, 344, 345, 347, 356, 357, 361, 364, 366, 368, 376, 397, 418, 444, 447 1969 -- 44, 292, 333 1968 -- 42, 64, 239, 249 1967 -- 115, 147, 219 1966 -- 57, 173, 408 1965 -- 105 1964 -- 140 1963 -- 44, 96, 106 1961 -- 71, 76, 90, 105, 131, 134, 137, 225, 263, 278, 279, 358 1960 -- 105, 191 1955 -- 129, 138 BOWMAN1955 -- 42 POST CEREAL1962 -- 194 Please include your name and address and I'll mail them right out. Return fire is always appreciated, but never required. OBC is wonderful,Tom Elliott ================= Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 21:37:45 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waiver wire -- I screwed up From: Thomas Elliott Hey everybody, I screwed up and permanently killed off all my email messages. If you sent in a waiver wire claim and haven't heard from me, please send it again. Sorry about that. I've updated the list below to what I have left at this points. Also note that if you are looking for 1974, 1974 traded, 1978 and 1979 Topps baseball, I have way too many to list here. Please let me know. They are yours for the asking. These are generally in the fair to good range, with plenty of Tiptons and a few very goods: 1977 -- 81, 216, 566, 647 1976 Traded -- 83T, 85T, 158T, 259T, 338T, 410T, 464T, 554T, 579T, 632T 1976 -- 49, 53, 91, 105, 110, 114, 116, 121, 126, 127, 139, 148, 175, 205, 216, 218, 219, 228, 256, 266, 276, 294, 327, 328, 336, 338, 356, 362, 369, 372, 374, 375, 376, 398, 404, 411, 432, 439, 464, 478, 479, 481, 490, 512, 553, 561, 574, 588, 606, 608, 640, 652 1973 -- 40, 93 1971 -- 10, 11, 21, 25, 29, 35, 40, 44, 46, 52, 61, 65, 68, 71, 75, 97, 98, 103, 111, 124, 126, 206, 218, 271, 294, 299, 421, 484 1970 -- 38, 49, 80, 88, 112, 143, 272, 276, 278, 283, 298, 314, 316, 319, 337, 344, 345, 347, 356, 357, 361, 364, 366, 368, 376, 397, 418, 444, 447 1969 -- 44, 292 1968 -- 42, 64, 239, 249 1967 -- 115, 147 1966 -- 57, 173, 408 1965 -- 105 1964 -- 140 1963 -- 44, 96, 106 1961 -- 71, 76, 90, 105, 278 1960 -- 105 POST CEREAL1962 -- 194 Please include your name and address and I'll mail them right out. Return fire is always appreciated, but never required. OBC is wonderful,Tom Elliott ================= Date: 01 Dec 2014 18:45:02 -0800 To: Subject: Rickey Henderson help From: wmcashton@aol.com ================= Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 19:11:48 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Waiver wire From: Thomas Elliott Hey everybody, Don't by shy. Claim away. Also note that if you are looking for 1974, 1974 traded, 1978 and 1979 Topps baseball, I have way too many to list here. Please let me know. They are yours for the asking. These are mostlyl Topps baseball, condition is generally in the fair to good range, with plenty of Tiptons and a few very goods: 1977 -- 81, 216, 566, 647 1976 Traded -- 83T, 85T, 158T, 259T, 338T, 410T, 464T, 554T, 579T, 632T 1976 -- 91, 105, 110, 114, 116, 121, 126, 127, 139, 148, 162, 165, 175, 196, 205, 216, 218, 219, 224, 228, 256, 266, 276, 291, 294, 321, 327, 328, 336, 337, 338, 356, 362, 369, 372, 374, 375, 376, 398, 404, 411, 432, 433, 437,439, 464, 467, 471, 478, 479, 481, 485, 489, 490, 512, 553, 561, 574, 588,606, 608, 613, 637, 640, 652 1973 -- 40, 93 1971 -- 10, 11, 21, 25, 29, 35, 40, 44, 46, 52, 61, 65, 68, 71, 75, 97, 98,103, 111, 124, 126, 206, 218, 271, 294, 299, 421, 484, 557 1970 -- 38, 49, 80, 88, 112, 143, 272, 276, 278, 283, 298, 314, 316, 319, 337, 344, 345, 347, 356, 357, 361, 364, 366, 368, 376, 397, 418, 444, 447 1969 -- 44, 292, 333 1968 -- 42, 64, 239, 249 1967 -- 115, 147, 219 1966 -- 57, 173, 408 1965 -- 105 1964 -- 140 1963 -- 44, 96, 106 1961 -- 71, 76, 90, 105, 131, 134, 137, 225, 263, 278, 279, 358 1960 -- 105, 191 1955 -- 129, 138 BOWMAN1955 -- 42 POST CEREAL1962 -- 194 Please include your name and address and I'll mail them right out. Return fire is always appreciated, but never required. OBC is wonderful,Tom Elliott ================= Date: 02 Dec 2014 10:14:43 -0800 To: Subject: waiver wire books looking for a new home From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 02 Dec 2014 11:26:03 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Rickey Henderson help From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 02 Dec 2014 11:27:36 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Rickey Henderson help From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 02 Dec 2014 15:01:54 -0800 To: Subject: Gone From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 19:24:39 -0500 To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: 2014-15 NFL Playoff Pool - 1st announcement From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving, and are looking forward to a terrific holiday season. Due to some changes we are making this year, I wanted to get a jump on things this year with an early December first announcement of this year's NFL Playoff pool. We had 16 participants last year, and it was a lot of fun, even if the team you root for is done for the year because it had one of the worst defenses in the history of the NFL. Once again, I am going to be running a playoff pool for all those interested. It is an interesting format where you always have one player active each game. The entry fee is $1 to cover postage for the winners plus a baseball or football card, preferably pre-1980, with a current condition-adjusted value of about $10. In addition, because of some issues last year collecting entries, your entry fee plus card must be postmarked no later than the day before the first playoff game of the post-season. The playoff schedule obviously won't be finalized for several weeks, but if the playoffs were to start this weekend, the lineup would look like this: AFC Week 1: 6 Dolphins at 3 Bengals, 5 Chargers at 4 Colts, 1 Patriots and 2 Broncos BYE (at least 5 more teams still in the hunt at 7-5t) AFC Week 2: 1 Patriots at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Broncos at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner AFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed NFC Week 1: 6 Lions at 3 Eagles, 5 Seahawks at 4 Falcons, 1 Cardinals and 2 Packers BYE (Dallas, San Francisco leading those still in the hunt) NFC Week 2: 1 Cardinals at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Packers at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner NFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed Week 4: Super Bowl The weekend of January 3-4 marks the start of our playoff pool. Here is how it works. Teams: Select a team of 12 players from the 12 teams in the playoffs. Your team must have 1, and only 1 player from each team and you are allowed exactly 2 QB=E2=99s, 4 RB=E2=99s, 4 WR=E2=99s, 1 TE, and 1 K (there are no defenses or special teams in the pool). In each game, every participant will have one player going from each team. Rank your players 1 through 12, with 1 being the player you think will score the most points overall throughout the playoffs, and 12 being the player you think will score the least points. Submit your roster to me like this: QB Dawson KC (4), QB Staubach DAL (2), RB Davis DEN (1), RB Warner SEA (12), etc., with the number in parenthesis being your personal ranking of the player. Deadline: Picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday, January 3 at 8 AM Central Time. Once your team is submitted, it cannot be changed. Please remember that your entry fee and card must be postmarked no later than January Passing: Touchdown 4 points, Yardage 1 point for every 25 passing yards, -2 points for an interception, - 2 points for a fumble Rushing and Receiving: Touchdown 6 points, Yardage 1 point for every 10 yards, 1 point for every catch, -2 points for a fumble Kicking: Field Goals: 1-39 yards 3 points, 40-49 yards 4 points, 50-59 yards 5 points, 60+ yards 7 points. Missed (including bad snap) or Blocked FG 1-39 yards -2 points, 40-49 yards -1 point. PATs 1 point, missed PAT (for any reason unless a pass or run results in a conversion) -2 points There are NO points awarded for 2 point conversions or kick returns for Remember, four NFL teams will have 1st round byes, and could potentially play one less game than the other eight. The winner is determined by total points scored by their roster over the entire playoff season (four games). Tie Breaker: Since there is a possibility that more than one team can have the exact same players and/or total score, ties will be broken by the total points of the player with the # 1 ranking. If still tied, than # 2 will be used and so on until the tie is broken. Prizes (subject to change based on number of entries): Overall winner will get 75% of the cards, 2nd place gets 25%. ( with such a high number of entries last year, the top four finishers received a prize) I hope to have rosters/rankings out before kickoff of the first game on Saturday, especially if I get your rosters early. Weekly results will be sent out as an Excel spreadsheet attachment in an email, usually on Monday before noon. Please let me know if you have any questions BEFORE the roster deadline. Remember, your entry must be postmarked no later than 11:59 PM on Friday, January 2, and your picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday,January 3 at 8 AM CST. Looking forward to the pool, and a Happy Holiday season to you and your Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 10:47:47 -0800 To: "" Subject: 1952 Topps Baseball Group Lot of 6 RAW High Numbers From: Rick Another lot on eBay ends today. I don't need any but still under $50 a card. View item: 1952 Topps Baseball Group Lot of 6 RAW High Numbers End time: Dec 3, 2014, 4:16:01 PM PST Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:20:05 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Goudey / Diamond Stars traders wanted From: Robert Fitts Hi Guys I took the plunge last month and started the 1933 and 34 Goudey and DiamondStar sets. Any of you have cards to trade? So far I have 8/9 34 Goudeys to trade in VG, and a couple of 33s. I will be getting a bunch of Diamond stars in later in the week. I=92m looking for cards back in nice VG condition. rounded corners are fine but no major creases. Low VG or G condition cards as fillers are okay. My want lists are on my OBC page. Please let me know if you want to do some trading rob fitts ================= Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 22:48:17 -0500 To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 From: cardclctor@aol.com Content-Language: en I think you're confusing the Milton Bradley cards that are unnumbered (and much smaller, mostly) black and white cards with the Topps Milton Bradley cards made for a game. The cards in the original question look almost identical to their Topps counterparts (1967 FB, 1968 1st and 2nd series BBand Hot Rods were used in the game). They are numbered standard size cards. Back in the 80's, a friend and I went to one of the Hall's Nostalgia monthly live auctions. One of the lots was an unopened game - or at least the tray of cards still cello wrapped. My friend won the lot and opened it up right in the auction. He was so disappointed with what he got that he just gave the whole lot to me. I guess he thought he was going to get a Ryan RCor something. Of course, I didn't know what I had either, so most of the cards got mixed in with my dupes and sent out... MAYBE they went into my 1968 set - which I sold a couple years ago. (I DID keep the Cox and Brinkman variations I got from that lot - I wasn't TOTALLY naive). I MIGHT still have some of the 1967 FB in my set. (I'll have to dig that one out someday and look.) I don't know what I did with the Hod Rod cards, since I had no use for them - either they got sent to someone in the group actually collecting the set, they're sitting in a box in my basement that hasn't seen the light of day in a couple decades, or I got rid of them somehow - like making them packing material in a random package I mailed out. Oh well, TAYL, Ken M - Sal, have you added the MB Ryan RC to your list? There's also a 67 Namath in the list ;-) In a message dated 12/3/2014 8:03:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: The standard catalog of baseball cards states the following about how to differentiate between 1969 and 1972 Milton Bradley game cards. Turn the card over look for the red type and for the numeral 1. If the digit has a base the card is a 72. If there is no base it is a 69. On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:33 PM, 'George Vrechek' _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) [OBC-Wantlist] <_OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: That=E2=99s about it. The MBs are brighter yellow. Sometimes you=E2=99ll find the edge of the football cards that were printed at the same time appearing on the borders. There was an excellent SCD article a few months back on the details by Dr. Carlton Miller. See:http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/featured/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-1968-milton-bradley-set George Vrechek From: _OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Wantlist] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:22 AM To: _OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 Hey, please explain how to differentiate between the two versions. All I'm noticing is a variation in tint. Thanks for any help! ================= Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 23:17:45 -0500 To: cardclctor@aol.com, OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL Ken, I have that card in the depths of my mind. I also have 2 of them saved on my ebay list. Actually, if you look at my Mets list, you will see them listed under "Topps/Milton Bradley". One day I have to look at my 68 set and see if I have any. Just so damned hard to tell them apart (color is rough on some of these beaters) unless they are miscut some and you can see some white of the other card. Oh and thanks for the tip on the Namath! (Grrrrrrr!) lol 1968 Topps Milton Bradley - METS 45 Tom Seaver 177 Rookie Stars Nolan Ryan / Jerry Koosman 191 Dan Frisella Anyone want to go in on this auction? http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Milton-Bradley-Lot-20-Diff-Namath-Ladd-Lamonica-Biletnikoff-Beckett-6-/291197 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 12/3/2014 10:48:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: I think you're confusing the Milton Bradley cards that are unnumbered (and much smaller, mostly) black and white cards with the Topps Milton Bradley cards made for a game. The cards in the original question look almost identical to their Topps counterparts (1967 FB, 1968 1st and 2nd series BBand Hot Rods were used in the game). They are numbered standard size cards. Back in the 80's, a friend and I went to one of the Hall's Nostalgia monthly live auctions. One of the lots was an unopened game - or at least the tray of cards still cello wrapped. My friend won the lot and opened it up right in the auction. He was so disappointed with what he got that he just gave the whole lot to me. I guess he thought he was going to get a Ryan RCor something. Of course, I didn't know what I had either, so most of the cards got mixed in with my dupes and sent out... MAYBE they went into my 1968 set - which I sold a couple years ago. (I DID keep the Cox and Brinkman variations I got from that lot - I wasn't TOTALLY naive). I MIGHT still have some of the 1967 FB in my set. (I'll have to dig that one out someday and look.) I don't know what I did with the Hod Rod cards, since I had no use for them - either they got sent to someone in the group actually collecting the set, they're sitting in a box in my basement that hasn't seen the light of day in a couple decades, or I got rid of them somehow - like making them packing material in a random package I mailed out. Oh well, TAYL, Ken M - Sal, have you added the MB Ryan RC to your list? There's also a 67 Namath in the list ;-) In a message dated 12/3/2014 8:03:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: The standard catalog of baseball cards states the following about how to differentiate between 1969 and 1972 Milton Bradley game cards. Turn the card over look for the red type and for the numeral 1. If the digit has a base the card is a 72. If there is no base it is a 69. On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:33 PM, 'George Vrechek' _vrechek@ameritech.net_ (mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net) [OBC-Wantlist] <_OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: That=E2=99s about it. The MBs are brighter yellow. Sometimes you=E2=99ll find the edge of the football cards that were printed at the same time appearing on the borders. There was an excellent SCD article a few months back on the details by Dr. Carlton Miller. See:http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/featured/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-1968-milton-bradley-set George Vrechek From: _OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com) [mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of _uthminsta@hotmail.com_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) [OBC-Wantlist] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:22 AM To: _OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 Hey, please explain how to differentiate between the two versions. All I'm noticing is a variation in tint. Thanks for any help! ================= Date: 03 Dec 2014 21:17:56 -0800 To: Subject: Shoeless Joe Jackson autographed photo on Heritage Auctions From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 08:22:30 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 From: Joel Freedman Thanks for the education. I was not aware of the 68 MB set. Most probably because it is a mixed sport and is not in the obvious location within the On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:17 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > LOL Ken, > I have that card in the depths of my mind. I also have 2 of them saved on > my ebay list. Actually, if you look at my Mets list, you will see them > listed under "Topps/Milton Bradley". One day I have to look at my 68 set > and see if I have any. Just so damned hard to tell them apart (color is > rough on some of these beaters) unless they are miscut some and you can see > some white of the other card. > Oh and thanks for the tip on the Namath! (Grrrrrrr!) lol > *1968 Topps Milton Bradley - METS* > 45 Tom Seaver > 177 Rookie Stars Nolan Ryan / Jerry Koosman > 191 Dan Frisella > Anyone want to go in on this auction? > http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-Milton-Bradley-Lot-20-Diff-Namath-Ladd-Lamonica-Biletnikoff-Beckett-6-/291197256471?ptUS_Football&hashitem4= > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 > In a message dated 12/3/2014 10:48:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > Joel, > I think you're confusing the Milton Bradley cards that are unnumbered > (and much smaller, mostly) black and white cards with the Topps Milton > Bradley cards made for a game. The cards in the original question look > almost identical to their Topps counterparts (1967 FB, 1968 1st and 2nd > series BB and Hot Rods were used in the game). They are numbered standard > size cards. > Back in the 80's, a friend and I went to one of the Hall's Nostalgia > monthly live auctions. One of the lots was an unopened game - or at least > the tray of cards still cello wrapped. My friend won the lot and opened it > up right in the auction. He was so disappointed with what he got that he > just gave the whole lot to me. I guess he thought he was going to get a > Ryan RC or something. Of course, I didn't know what I had either, so most > of the cards got mixed in with my dupes and sent out... MAYBE they went > into my 1968 set - which I sold a couple years ago. (I DID keep the Cox and > Brinkman variations I got from that lot - I wasn't TOTALLY naive). I MIGHT > still have some of the 1967 FB in my set. (I'll have to dig that one out > someday and look.) I don't know what I did with the Hod Rod cards, since I > had no use for them - either they got sent to someone in the group actually > collecting the set, they're sitting in a box in my basement that hasn't > seen the light of day in a couple decades, or I got rid of them somehow - > like making them packing material in a random package I mailed out. Oh > well, TAYL, > Ken M - Sal, have you added the MB Ryan RC to your list? There's also a 67 > Namath in the list ;-) > In a message dated 12/3/2014 8:03:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OBC-Wantlist-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: > The standard catalog of baseball cards states the following about how to > differentiate between 1969 and 1972 Milton Bradley game cards. > Turn the card over look for the red type and for the numeral 1. > If the digit has a base the card is a 72. If there is no base it is a 69. > Joel > On Dec 2, 2014, at 2:33 PM, 'George Vrechek' vrechek@ameritech.net > [OBC-Wantlist] wrote: > That=E2=99s about it. The MBs are brighter yellow. Sometimes you=E2=99ll find the > edge of the football cards that were printed at the same time appearing on > the borders. There was an excellent SCD article a few months back on the > details by Dr. Carlton Miller. See: > http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.com/featured/a-tale-of-the-yellow-back-1968-milton-bradley-set > George Vrechek > *From:* OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com [ > mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com ] *On > Behalf Of *uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Wantlist] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2014 11:22 AM > *To:* OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 > Hey, please explain how to differentiate between the two versions. All > I'm noticing is a variation in tint. Thanks for any help! ================= Date: 04 Dec 2014 15:33:50 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 04 Dec 2014 19:36:40 -0800 To: Subject: Weekend Waiver From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 02:31:33 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The way we collect cards... From: ChicoD1@aol.com I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually, I would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing with the idea of another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have like 8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now makes it more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as hard to get through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn the torpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowman runs!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied ways we go about collecting... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:13:47 -0500 To: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: Joel Freedman I think along the lines of "field of dreams" If you build it they will come. In OBC land this would become "if you post it, it will come". post them all!! On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:31 AM, ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from > 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. > https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs > I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I > have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but > really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually,I > would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing > with the idea of another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have > like 8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now > makes it more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post > EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know > the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some > of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have > small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number > was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as > hard to get through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. > Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting > at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn the > torpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowman > runs!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied ways > we go about collecting... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 08:31:24 -0600 To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: TJ Valacak When I first joined OBC back in 2005, my mentor Chris Stufflestreet encouraged me to list it all. I can recall emails where I would be talking about aset that I maybe had 20 cards. List it he would say. Still, I was hesitant. And my cards from the 50's, no way. I still have a small box that holds 200 cards. Has an old label on it. 52-56 topps and bowman. Wasn't even closeto being full, but I had a box the box had space. And anytime I could add some cards to the box, I would. Eventually, I decided to work on Red Sox and white sox team sets from the 50's. And at some point I threw in the toweland decided to go for the sets. In retrospect, a great move. It's just so much fun building sets, reading the cards, looking at the great poses on cards, etc. I second Peter's line. If you post it, the cards will come. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2014, at 1:31 AM, "ChicoD1@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs > I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually, I would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing withthe idea of another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have like8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now makesit more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as hard toget through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. > Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn thetorpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowmanruns!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied wayswe go about collecting... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 06:52:35 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: The way we collect cards From: Glenn Codere Great topic. Whe I first jojned OBC, I only listed the 1969-73 Topps sets as my immediate goal was to refill the sets that I still had a few cards from after my move to Scotland in Sept 1973. I soon added the 1974-1980 sets, then the 1967 & 1968 sets. These all filled out nicely in a fairly short time, and I was once again left to make a decision to add something else. This time, I decided to go back only as far as my birth year (1960), adding '60 to '66. For the most part, that took me right up to about 2010, when I started to make some online noises about perhaps adding some 1950s sets to my quest. I was persuaded (quite robustly!) by several OBCers to go for it, but like TJ found myself unable to take the full plunge. I added 1957 to 1959 and so far they're doing pretty well. I've thought a lot about just opening up all the way and going for the 1952-1956 Topps and the early Bowman sets, but at this point I really only have a fairly small handful of cards (other than Tigers) from those years. I'd feel a bit of a fraud to say I'm "collecting" them at this point! One of these days, I'll hopefully dive in. ================= To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 11:05:21 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: Taylor Schock I agree with much of what has already been said. I would add to the old adage of 'collect what you like' with a follow on as 'list what you collect'. The benefit to that is while "I" might not be able to help, I might know someone who might. It also helps keep track of YOUR interests as well. And you never know when you are going to come across something that interests youand you don't know if you have it, or to what extent you might have it. Sometimes a want list can act as a semi-inventory list as well. After doing much 'soul searching' over the years, I think the only real correlation I've found is the relationship between want list size and activitylevel. The larger the list, the more active you would be, or maybe more appropriately, SHOULD be. Unless you have a small list because you have 'everything' already but are still sitting on a ton of 'dupes' you are trying toget rid of. This is NOT a comment directed at Sal or anyone else in particular. Just a general To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 02:31:33 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually, I would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing with the ideaof another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have like 8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now makes it more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as hard to get through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn the torpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowman runs!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied ways we about collecting... OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 09:50:25 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 From: George Vrechek The checklist 107 was double printed. Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:06:34 -0600 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards From: MarkZ I like to collect just 2 or 3 sets at a time, but I am consistently surprised at how fast they are completed thanks to this awesome group! Mark Zentkovich Sent from mark z ipod On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:52 AM, "Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Great topic. > Whe I first jojned OBC, I only listed the 1969-73 Topps sets as my immediate goal was to refill the sets that I still had a few cards from after my move to Scotland in Sept 1973. I soon added the 1974-1980 sets, then the 1967 & 1968 sets. These all filled out nicely in a fairly short time, and I was once again left to make a decision to add something else. This time, I decided to go back only as far as my birth year (1960), adding '60 to '66. > For the most part, that took me right up to about 2010, when I started tomake some online noises about perhaps adding some 1950s sets to my quest. I was persuaded (quite robustly!) by several OBCers to go for it, but like TJ found myself unable to take the full plunge. I added 1957 to 1959 and sofar they're doing pretty well. > I've thought a lot about just opening up all the way and going for the 1952-1956 Topps and the early Bowman sets, but at this point I really only have a fairly small handful of cards (other than Tigers) from those years. I'd feel a bit of a fraud to say I'm "collecting" them at this point! One of these days, I'll hopefully dive in. > Glenn ================= Date: 05 Dec 2014 12:50:21 -0800 To: Subject: The Way We Collect Cards... From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 16:32:49 -0800 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: Rick I had a different approach to collecting before OBC. I was working on a couple sets 70-71-72 topps but mostly topps inserts and OPC cards was my first priority cards because I thought I could get the topps and bowman anytime. When I joined OBC I had very few 50's and probably not even half of the 60's. I posted all sets and they started filling up quickly. One thing I would do differently is not spend any money on commons no matter how good of adeal you think it is. So one piece of advice I would give new members or people starting new sets is spend every dime of your baseball budget on stars and high numbers. Don't be tempted to buy those 5 cent commons because they are in everyone's dupe box. Rick Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:05 AM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I agree with much of what has already been said. I would add to the old adage of 'collect what you like' with a follow on as 'list what you collect'. The benefit to that is while "I" might not be able to help, I might know someone who might. It also helps keep track of YOUR interests as well. And you never know when you are going to come across something that interests you and you don't know if you have it, or to what extent you might have it. Sometimes a want list can act as a semi-inventory list as well. > After doing much 'soul searching' over the years, I think the only real correlation I've found is the relationship between want list size and activity level. The larger the list, the more active you would be, or maybe more appropriately, SHOULD be. Unless you have a small list because you have 'everything' already but are still sitting on a ton of 'dupes' you are trying to get rid of. > This is NOT a comment directed at Sal or anyone else in particular. Just a general observation. > Regards, > Taylor > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 02:31:33 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... > I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs > I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually, I would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing withthe idea of another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have like8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now makesit more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as hard toget through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. > Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn thetorpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowmanruns!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied wayswe go about collecting... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 23:28:42 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: cardclctor@aol.com Love this thread. Mine is more of a mix of different methods already mentioned. When I first joined the group, I had already completed from the 70's on up - most of those from full set purchases. I had done everything wrong in collecting up to this point - collecting higher grade sets, purchasing complete sets and starting from the 70's and working my way back - WRONG!! If I had it to do all over again, I would've STARTED with the 1952 set right away, worked on sets strictly in low grade and never bought those mid 70's sets complete. It was so much more fun and more rewarding when I pieced them all together a second time (in OBC grade). For a long time (up until this year's National) my wantlist was very hard to hit. (If you took out second sets and variations, it was EIGHT high priced/hard to find cards at one point). This was fine by me, as my collecting was on the back burner for the most part. I could probably count on one hand the number of envelopes I mailed out every year. Now that things have freed up more time to devote to the hobby, I've pretty much just listed everything I'm remotely interested in that I don't already have... with more to be added. It'll make it fun going to the mailbox again. So how do I decide? (to finally answer the actual question of the thread) Well, that's sorta evolved as well. Before, I would always find a group lot at a show or online and have the group fill in the blanks. As mentioned already, that's probably not the best way to go about it. Now I'm just listing what I like, letting the group fill in what they can and then I'll decide how desperate I am to finish the set. Before, I was very impatient and didn't want to wait and see what the mail brings. Now, not so much (I hope). Instead, I'm going to try to concentrate on the sets that have remained on my list the longest (...and maybe that Jello set I'm going to regret starting ) and worry about the newer additions to the list somewhere down the road. Thanks for reading, Ken M ================= To: Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:49:07 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: Waiver ~ 68 Milton Bradley #74 From: "George Vrechek" As to the baseball card count in the set - Checklist 107 is in the MB set twice with one checklist coming from the first series printing and the other version from the second series. I don't have the cards in front of me but I recall that one checklist has bigger burlap background than the other. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:57:26 -0600 To: mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shoeless Joe Jackson autographed photo on Heritage From: Yaz Not that I doubt the authenticity of the autograph, but it seems an amazingly decent handwriting from a guy that was supposed to be illiterate. Greg (yaz) On 12/3/2014 11:17 PM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey, Guys. I usually pay little attention to the collecting stuff > that is completely out of my range, but this caught my eye. > http://sports.ha.com/itm/autographs/photos/1911-shoeless-joe-jackson-signed-photograph-from-the-frank-w-smith-collection-psa-dna-mint-9/p/7130-47002.s?ctrack=1678244&type=collector-a9--sport--news--tem120314 > They claim this is the only known example of an autoed photo from > him. I find his story fascinating and sad and compelling, and figured > some of you might also be interested, if only to glance at the picture. > Peace and Joy, > Mike ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 01:04:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: Joshua Levine When I started in OBC, I had exactly one set listed...1971 Topps, my birthyear set. I was playing around with vintage Phillies at the time but did not have anything like a list. Eventually, Len Meideros sent me some Philliesand told me to start building phillies team sets back to 1951 Topps and Bowman. As I got closer to the '71 set and my Phillies list grew greater (waybeyond what I originally thought) I decided to do a set a decade. I added the 1953 Bowman Black and Whites and the '64 Topps. Right about that time, I found Gar Miller (I think Larry told me about him). I would send Gar a check and he would send me a pile of cards from my lists. I soon added the '53 Topps and '56 Topps sets. I also started work on a T205 set about that time...just for fun because I picked up a bunch on ebay for $5 apiece. Now my focus is still finishing some of those sets, working on my never-ending Phillies list and T205s. My card budget this past year broke down to 13% sets, 17% Phillies and 65% T205s and 5% other (trade/salebait and interesting I guess I would describe the way I collect now as: I am hoarding t205s but collecting Phillies and sets. Visit Your Group New Members 2 = =E2=A2 Privacy =E2=A2 Unsubscribe =E2=A2 Terms of Use ================= To: Wite3@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:05:40 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I have read the various posts to this thread with great amusement and interest. I think Ken hit upon something when he mentioned whether to be patient or not in completing a set. We all have only so much we can spend onour hobby. So do we focus on a limited number of sets or as I have exemplified, go for them all??? I have taken the opinion that I would rather geta number of hits when I go to a show than spend the entire show looking for only a couple of cards and if I find them feel I have to purchase them regardless of price, or I end up with nothing. Kind of the opposite of Rick's view. Just get the best buys I can find. I have had the concept of "1 is a type card and 2 I am collecting them" for years. So when I go to a show, I look for what I do not have, with apreference they are to sets that are getting close to completion, or already started. With over 75 sets needing 5 or less to finish, I have to continuously find more sets to add to the lists. With a steadfast refusal to donon-sports (you have to draw the line somewhere), I have spread to every sport I can find. Other than the comment of focus, what is the problem with listing them all??? As someone mentioned it also serves as a great inventory of what you Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Levine Wite3@aol.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sat, Dec 6, 2014 1:04 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... When I started in OBC, I had exactly one set listed...1971 Topps, my birthyear set. I was playing around with vintage Phillies at the time but did not have anything like a list. Eventually, Len Meideros sent me some Philliesand told me to start building phillies team sets back to 1951 Topps and Bowman. As I got closer to the '71 set and my Phillies list grew greater (waybeyond what I originally thought) I decided to do a set a decade. I added the 1953 Bowman Black and Whites and the '64 Topps. Right about that time, I found Gar Miller (I think Larry told me about him). I would send Gar a check and he would send me a pile of cards from my lists. I soon added the '53 Topps and '56 Topps sets. I also started work on a T205 set about that time...just for fun because I picked up a bunch on ebay for $5 apiece. Now my focus is still finishing some of those sets, working on my never-ending Phillies list and T205s. My card budget this past year broke down to 13% sets, 17% Phillies and 65% T205s and 5% other (trade/salebait and interesting I guess I would describe the way I collect now as: I am hoarding t205s but collecting Phillies and sets. VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 2 =E2=A2 Privacy =E2=A2 Unsubscribe =E2=A2 Terms of Use ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 15:24:47 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com " Subject: eBay saved searches question From: mark holland Thanks to Taylor's recent hit to my 1959T set I decided to raise the priority of knocking out the last 80 cards for that set. It will be my first 50s complete set when we get it done. When I saved my eBay search it includes alot of '59 football that I don't want to be included. Most of the FB titles don't have football and some don't even have team names. Does anyone know of a way to filter out football cards from a 59T baseball card Have a nice weekend.MarkMark HollandWant List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 09:37:00 -0600 To: Rick Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: john harrell Like a lot of collectors my age (very old) I collected when I was a kid (the 50's), put the cards in a shoebox for 15 years or so then started again in the 70's with 76 Topps. I collected off and on until I finally got disgusted with the UV stuff in the mid 90's. It was then I discovered prewar at a show and bought my first real vintage card, a 41 Play Ball. When I joined OBC in 97 I had a small WL with 54 and 56 Topps from my childhood shoebox. That was about it. I quickly added the a few 70's and worked backwards until shortly after the millennium I had a very short WL, at which time I expanded it to include the full Topps and Bowman runs so the group would have something to hit. Prewar continues to be my focus and that list has reached the point where hits or purchases are few and far between. Like Rick, if I were starting over I would go after the stars and high numbers first, of the earliest sets I was working on. I was lucky to finish a lot of my prewar sets before they took off in price, like Tattoo Orbit, and Diamond Stars. Wish I had done the same for Batter Up high On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Rick rick.lyons22@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I had a different approach to collecting before OBC. I was working on a > couple sets 70-71-72 topps but mostly topps inserts and OPC cards was my > first priority cards because I thought I could get the topps and bowman > anytime. When I joined OBC I had very few 50's and probably not even half > of the 60's. I posted all sets and they started filling up quickly. One > thing I would do differently is not spend any money on commons no matter > how good of a deal you think it is. So one piece of advice I would give new > members or people starting new sets is spend every dime of your baseball > budget on stars and high numbers. Don't be tempted to buy those 5 cent > commons because they are in everyone's dupe box. Rick > Sent from my iPad > On Dec 5, 2014, at 8:05 AM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > I agree with much of what has already been said. I would add to the old > adage of 'collect what you like' with a follow on as 'list what you > collect'. The benefit to that is while "I" might not be able to help, I > might know someone who might. It also helps keep track of YOUR interests as > well. And you never know when you are going to come across something that > interests you and you don't know if you have it, or to what extent you > might have it. Sometimes a want list can act as a semi-inventory list as > well. > After doing much 'soul searching' over the years, I think the only real > correlation I've found is the relationship between want list size and > activity level. The larger the list, the more active you would be, or maybe > more appropriately, SHOULD be. Unless you have a small list because you > have 'everything' already but are still sitting on a ton of 'dupes' you are > trying to get rid of. > This is NOT a comment directed at Sal or anyone else in particular. Just a > general observation. > Regards, > Taylor > ------------------------------ > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 02:31:33 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... > I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from > 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. > https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs > I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I > have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but > really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually,I > would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing > with the idea of another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have > like 8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now > makes it more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post > EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know > the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some > of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have > small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number > was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as > hard to get through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. > Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting > at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn the > torpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowman > runs!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied ways > we go about collecting... > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 08:22:22 -0800 Subject: Re: The way we collect cards... From: "George Vrechek" Had to chime in. My story is a little different. When I joined OBC in 1999 I needed 10 cards to complete a run of cards that included 1933-5 Goudeys, 1939 Playball, 1959-1963 Fleer and Leaf, 1952-1980 Topps and 1950-1955 Bowmans. Since then I have picked up one of the 10 cards, a 1952 Topps Jackie Robinson that I bought from Uncle Dick a few years ago - the only card I have ever paid more than $50 for. Despite my difficult want list when I joined, I soon found ways to expand my collecting with variations, odd-ball sets, exhibits, football, basketball, and hockey. While I don't get cards through OBC very often, they are always a welcome surprise and I really appreciate the guys who come across stuff that I need and haven't been able to find. It is like having many other sets of eyes to look for stuff. I also pick up stuff at shows that need to be rescued from bargain bins because I know some OBCer can probably use them. I appreciate the encouragement from OBCers to start new sets like the T218s, lots of fun. I have about 40,000 vintage singles. I've set a goal for my collecting career to collect about 50,000 vintage singles, thus forcing me to keep expanding the wantlists.. Got to sign off and get back to filling in those hockey sets and how hard can those OPeeChees be? Maybe I should add those? 1938 Goudeys? T205s and T206s? The options never end. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 11:35:11 -0500 To: mark holland Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay saved searches question From: Anthony This may help http://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2010/01/22/t-is-for-topps-part-one-the-1950s/ Cool site for fb Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:24 AM, mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thanks to Taylor's recent hit to my 1959T set I decided to raise the priority of knocking out the last 80 cards for that set. It will be my first 50s complete set when we get it done. When I saved my eBay search it includesa lot of '59 football that I don't want to be included. Most of the FB titles don't have football and some don't even have team names. > Does anyone know of a way to filter out football cards from a 59T baseball card search? > Have a nice weekend. > Mark > Mark Holland > Want List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:39:57 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Split a non-sport near set? From: Steve Rittenberg On ebay is a near set of the 1939 Wild West high series cards. These are tougher than the regular cards with the puzzle back. The seller has 23 cards for $40 in a lot that ends in 5 hours (around 4pm ET). Unfortunately for me, I only need two of these (35 & 45). Is anyone interested in splitting the lot? The lot has 23 out of the 24 cards. Wow. I wish I had a use for a second set or I would grab this myself. This is a great deal. I've paid a few each for low grade singles. The cards here are nicer but cheaper ($1.50 each) Ebay details here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/23-WILD-WEST-SERIES-PICTURE-PUZZLE-BUBBLE-GUM-COLLECTOR-TRADING-CARDS-1940s-/191433231101 If you are interested, bid on them or tell me to bid on them. I've already asked the seller if they will break up the lot if no one bids. Thanks for reading. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 09:00:24 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" I am enjoying this thread. I personally am all over the map. I collect players, mostly HOM'ers and everyday players from when I was a kid in the 70's and 80's. I collect contemporaneous HOF cards and am down to Dizzy Dean and Jack Chesbro - Dizzy is tough! (Thank you Brian Lindholme for the I am also a type collector and have about 1,500 different from 1889 to 1989. I have two 4 inch binders that I really enjoy flipping through. Finally, I am a set collector at heart. I collect Diamond Stars, 1935 Goudey and T200, T206 portraits as well as a number of non-sport sets. I have to thank Steve Rittenberg for stoking the non-sport flames a number of years ago. I love the A&G Dudes, Quadrapeds and Arms of the World - great I totally agree with the comments shared about the drag of being left with mostly expensive cards. Types and players are a good salve for this. As I vacillate in what I collect, one thing I resolved a few years ago was to collect only 1,000 more cards. I have picked up about 250 over the last three years and am enjoying the countdown. With cards like T200's (thanks to Richard Hankins for the NY-N start, Chuck Paris for the inspiration when he completed his set, and Mac Wubben for subsequent hits) and T206 Cobbs, Johnson, and Young left, my countdown won't be completed in my lifetime. Erik Greenwood ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 12:06:33 -0500 To: mholland28412@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay saved searches question From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Content-Language: en when you put 1959 topps also put baseball that should filter out football i didn't read other response so hopefully i didn't repeat someone else In a message dated 12/6/2014 9:24:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Thanks to Taylor's recent hit to my 1959T set I decided to raise the priority of knocking out the last 80 cards for that set. It will be my first complete set when we get it done. When I saved my eBay search it includes a lot of '59 football that I don't want to be included. Most of the FB titles don't have football and some don't even have team names. Does anyone know of a way to filter out football cards from a 59T baseball card search? Have a nice weekend. Mark Holland Want List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 12:13:51 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay saved searches question From: richard dingman I have had the same concern for many searches and have not found a good answer. Richard D CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: mholland28412@yahoo.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 11:35:11 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay saved searches question This may helphttp://www.nearmintcards.com/blog/2010/01/22/t-is-for-topps-part-one-the-1950s/ Cool site for fb Sent from my iPad On Dec 6, 2014, at 10:24 AM, mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Thanks to Taylor's recent hit to my 1959T set I decided to raise the priority of knocking out the last 80 cards for that set. It will be my first 50s complete set when we get it done. When I saved my eBay search it includes alot of '59 football that I don't want to be included. Most of the FB titles don't have football and some don't even have team names. Does anyone know of a way to filter out football cards from a 59T baseball card Have a nice weekend.Mark Mark HollandWant List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 11:21:24 -0600 To: yazobc@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shoeless Joe Jackson autographed photo on From: Mike Rumley-Wells Interesting. They actually mention that in their description, something about his "labored scrawl with pencil." I would also be curious as to how they authenticated it. Whichever of you guys buys it, let us know, okay? ;-) On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Yaz wrote: > Not that I doubt the authenticity of the autograph, but it seems an > amazingly decent handwriting from a guy that was supposed to be illiterate. > Greg (yaz) > On 12/3/2014 11:17 PM, mikerw7@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Hey, Guys. I usually pay little attention to the collecting stuff that is > completely out of my range, but this caught my eye. > http://sports.ha.com/itm/autographs/photos/1911-shoeless-joe-jackson-signed-photograph-from-the-frank-w-smith-collection-psa-dna-mint-9/p/7130-47002= > They claim this is the only known example of an autoed photo from him. > I find his story fascinating and sad and compelling, and figured some of > you might also be interested, if only to glance at the picture. > Peace and Joy, > Mike ================= Date: 06 Dec 2014 11:06:48 -0800 To: Subject: 12/6 Waiver Wire- football and baseball From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:48:44 -0500 To: Erik & Leticia Greenwood , Subject: re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: illini_grad_90 ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 18:51:03 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The way we collect cards... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en Wow, Never thought this thread would take off like it did and I'm sure there are others still to come. I would get to the end of a set and started working backwards (like a lot of us do). Somewhere after 1968, I wanted todo 1960 because I liked that set, same with the 1958s. Then I decided to fill in the hole (1961). Ken's idea actually made the most sense, start with the oldest and work forward. I guess mainly because the cards weren't going to get any cheaper as time went on. Well, taking all this in and since I actually have silent want lists on my computer, I have added a page to my web site for those "other" sets. I guess I'll deal with return fire as it comes, although I get somewhat uncomfortable getting stacks without having something to send back. Looks like I'll be posting more waivers to "pay it forward". I guess it also gives me something to do as I put together those50s cards sitting in a box waiting to be listed. I liked the line "if you post it, they will come". Here's the list: https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/50s-60s Sal Domino OBC - 1992 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:31 AM, _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I was looking over my Mets list and noticed that a BUNCH are disks from 1976/77. So I created a separate link for just the Mets disks. https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home/mets-disk-needs I'm also torn as to whether or not to expand my want lists. In the past, I have gotten a set down to a manageable or "Gawd there are nothing but really expensive cards left" before posting my next endeavor. Eventually, I would hope that all the cards would be posted down the road. I'm playing with the idea of another supplemental page with the other lists (ie I have like 8 53 Bowman colors, 50 1955s, you get the idea). The way I do it now makes it more manageable for me to be more focused. My fear is if I post EVERYTHING, is that "what comes around won't be what goes around". I know the potential of this group when they see new blood lists lol. I know some of the guys post everything, others have more concise lists and others have small lists because they have everything else. Back in the day, my number was 50. Once I got there the next list was posted. Then again, it wasn't as hard to get through the late 60s and 70s in this manner. Looking for a little feedback as to how you decide what you are collecting at a given time and move along to something else. Or do you just damn the torpedoes and say "Wow I only need 5000 more cards for my Topps and Bowman runs!" I have an idea we are going to get some interesting and varied ways we go about collecting... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 20:32:56 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Varied Waivers From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok kids, I have this box I won from the auction that needs to be shared with OBC. I added a few that weren't in that box. All cards must go (I need the box-- yeah, that's it, I need the box!). Have at 'em! 1975 SSPCs- These are trimmed and actually look great without the borders. They have red and black printing backs, you guys get to figure out what set they belong to LOL Red- 1 Parker, 5 Berra, 6 Gomez, 8 McDowell, 14 Herzog Black- 2, 3, 4, 7, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 18 1968 Topps Baseball Game cards- 1 (2),12, 13 (2), 16, 23, 25 1979 Odgen A's Minor league near set- 1-26 missing 9 (Henderson) Quite a few former big leaguers 1981 Donruss Dallas TV show starter set (56 card set)- Variation collectors, this should be your first non sport set. The cards form a puzzle on the back, but there are different puzzle backs for the cards. 70 card starter set with a bunch of variation backs Also! The doubles- 21 card starter set. 1989-90 LA Lakers schedule 1981 Topps Basketball- 18, 41, 48, 56, 68, 72, 82, 85 1974 Topps Basketball- 17, 56, 67, 120 1975 Topps Basketball- 196, 314 1981 Topps Hockey- 35, 39, 54, 57 (2), 66 1978 Topps Hockey- 140 (Cheevers) 1977 TCMA/Renata Galasso 45 (Vernon) 1960 Leaf- 10, 26, 40, 47, 51 1976 Topps Basketball (tallboys) 69, 73, 92 1970 Topps Super- 22, 42 1966 Topps Rub Offs- Swoboda (2), miscuts 1976 Hostess 78 (Grote) 1977 OPC Glossy Hockey- 15 (Potvin), 17 (Resch) 1976 Topps Glossy Hockey- 10 (Potvin), 15 (Trottier), 18 (Gilbert) 1970 Topps Basketball- 43 (Barnett) 1964 Topps Coins- 90 (Menke), 164 (Hunt AS) 1988 Topps Coins- 56 (Strawberry) 1967 Topps Pinup- 31 (Hunt) (Yeah I bought this by accident- he's with the Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 09:56:01 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Red heart Mantle opinion? From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I just won an auction with a offer of 175 for this card.... Any opinions on if I just did good, or got in trouble by bidding before coffee...? In other news, I went to a card show yesterday in Holland MI that had two OBC dealers (JD and Mark Smith), and I saw things I did not see at the Nationals... Like a stack of 64 Venezuela cards that would choke a horse.... Picked up some baseball bucks and peel offs in the ninety minutes I had there.... Be happy, http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Red-Heart-18-Mickey-Mantle-BVG-POOR-1-/141498568095?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem20f1f8cd9f Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 15:46:35 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: The way we collect cards From: Jerry Coker Cool thread. Before I joined OBC I was working on completing my childhood sets from 1966-1971. I'd occasionally go to a show in Atlanta (this was in the late 80's early 90's). I picked up a lot of cards to either put those sets to bed or at least get them down to just the high #'s (man ... I don't think I'm ever going to finish the 66 & 67T high #'s! :-) Anyway ... when I joined OBC I started the 1950's sets. Never thought I would. I didn't thinkI had a prayer ever completing those. But thanks to OBC I completed my birth year set (1958) ... have a shot at finishing my 57T set and am pretty close on the 54T set. And I'm just getting going on the 53B color set (man I love that set!) At some point a few years ago I really got into the T205's and T206's. I really wanted to collect those sets and did for awhile. But Igot pretty intimidated by the prices and size. So now I'm collecting just the NY Giants for those two pre-war sets. I hope to one day re-start both of those as complete base sets but I see the prices of those steadily going up. The T205's and T206's are like a whole different animal as far as collecting. They open up all kinds of ideas for type collecting. I love learningabout and researching all the tobacco brand backs and locations of the factories (I'm a history buff). And the T205's are just so awesome with the player bio's on the back. Very cool cards! I've also decided to do the NY Giants and Boston/Milwaukee Braves (my two favorite teams) for the early 50's sets. Because like the pre-war sets ... the early 50's sets can be intimidating :-) Anyway ... it's interesting to see how mine and other collectors habits have evolved over time. We all have varying goals ... but a common denominator Jerry Coker ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 16:06:17 +0000 (UTC) To: Thanks OBC , Subject: '67 Topps push, Thanks... From: Gary Beard Lynn Miller sends 51 '67 Topps for my year end push, as well as 4 '68 Topps. My updated wantlist is: 1967 Topps 1 218 300 371 418 471 502 538 565 592 5 221 306 372 420 472 503 539 566 593 30 223 309 374 423 473 505 540 567 594 45 225 314 377 424 474 506 541 568 595 50 226 315 379 425 475 507 542 569 596 63 230 318 380 426 476 508 543 570 597 120 234 320 382 427 477 509 544 571 598 131 236 326 384 428 478 511 545 572 599 137 238 328 388 434 480 512 546 573 600 140 239 331 390 437 481 513 547 574 601 146 240 333 391 443 482 514 548 575 602 150 242 334 393 445 484 515 549 576 603 152 243 337 395 446 485 516 550 577 604 153 244 340 397 448 486 517 551 578 605 154 250 343 399 456 488 518 552 579 606 166 255 348 400 457 489 521 553 580 607 167 257 352 403 458 490 522 554 581 608 169 266 354 405 460 491 523 555 583 609 171 280 355 406 461 492 526 556 584 173 284 359 410 463 493 528 557 585 200 285 361 411 464 494 531 558 586 205 289 363 412 465 495 533 559 587 210 290 365 413 466 497 534 560 588 211 295 367 415 467 499 535 561 589 215 297 369 416 468 500 536 562 590 216 299 370 417A 470 501 537 563 591 Any help before the end of the year (or thereafter) is appreciated and willbe reciprocated where possible. Thanks so much Lynn for the help, Gary Beard (OBC, VCT, Net54, The Bench, Card Trading Fools) 1014 Liada Way Oxnard, CA 93030 ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 17:44:53 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 30 for 30 Honus Wagner From: ChicoD1@aol.com Gotta love this show on ESPN. Shortened version with Keith Olbermann. And to think, Josh called this a LONG time ago.. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11994253/honus-wagner-card-auctioned-more- Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 07 Dec 2014 16:59:12 -0800 To: Subject: INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: , Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 20:21:08 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: "Bob Donaldson" I=E2=99ve the 2011 SCD Vintage /Price guide. It=E2=99s nice that it only has vintage cards. However, I=E2=99m not so sure about the new discoveries. I am collecting the E121 set and have noticed that they are referring to many cards as commons compared to my 1981 and 1992 price guides. For example the 1922 E121 (series of 120) only has one non-HOF as a premium(Carl Mays) both older books have about 20 cards at a premium. My experience tells me that a lot of these cards should be a premium. Seems to me they got a little bit careless. Hopefully they do better in the more popular sets. God luck From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of uthminsta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 7:59 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD I am thinking about getting myself a copy of the SCD for Christmas. I know getting a newer edition doesn't necessarily mean more useful. I'd rather not have something so unwieldy because of the forty-billion sets made in the last few years. However, I know there is new information being researched and revealed on older sets all the time, and would of course want what I could get of all that as well. So... which edition(s) do you have? Which edition would you suggest? Is there something else entirely I'm not yet considering? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4235/8688 - Release Date: 12/05/14 ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 17:35:52 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: Mark Macrae There is no need to purchase the new "Big" book. The checklists haven't been properly updated in a few years. You'd be better off buying an edition that is a few years old, then 'cannibalizing' it down to the sets that you'remost interested in and carrying around the 18 ounce version. Pricing information has been horribly inaccurate or misleading for years as well.... Sorry SCD lovers...Mark ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 20:41:57 -0500 To: Mark Macrae Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: Doug I recently bought a copy of the Vintage Guide that was a couple years old off Amazon for under ten bucks delivered it think. It serves my needs fine and I supplement it with online searches when needed. Sent from my iPad On Dec 7, 2014, at 8:35 PM, "Mark Macrae doctorzeenut@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > There is no need to purchase the new "Big" book. The checklists haven't been properly updated in a few years. You'd be better off buying an edition that is a few years old, then 'cannibalizing' it down to the sets that you're most interested in and carrying around the 18 ounce version. Pricing information has been horribly inaccurate or misleading for years as well.... Sorry SCD lovers...Mark ================= Date: 07 Dec 2014 17:46:24 -0800 To: Subject: 2015 Collecting goals From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:35:26 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 2015 Collecting goals From: richard dingman Hey, 5 out of 6 would be excellent! I would say these are doable! Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 17:46:24 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2015 Collecting goals As the year wraps up, I have been thinking about what I want to accomplish in 2015 (yes, I know it is only the 7th, but I will be busy so much, I wanted to post these while I was thinking about it) Some of these goals are reasonable. Some arent, but who knows. I would love to hear what other people are hoping to pull off in 2015 So, in no particular order... 1. Hit the need lists of at least 50 OBC members- although I hope to help alot 2. I need to get a start on the 72-79 Topps sets, and hopefully kill a few 3. I want to finish my 1959 Topps baseball set 4. Finish my 70s Topps football run, not counting the 72 Hi's 5. Obtain at least 50 different vintage type cards for my as of yet not started Cleveland Indians project 6. Do all of this without emptying my bank account! ================= To: Gary Beard , OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 21:52:05 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '67 Topps push, Thanks... From: richard dingman I can send #427. Richard D To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obclynn15@yahoo.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 16:06:17 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '67 Topps push, Thanks... Lynn Miller sends 51 '67 Topps for my year end push, as well as 4 '68Topps. My updated wantlist is: 1967 Topps 1 218 300 371 418 471 502 538 565 592 5 221 306 372 420 472 503 539 566 593 30 223 309 374 423 473 505 540 567 594 45 225 314 377 424 474 506 541 568 595 50 226 315 379 425 475 507 542 569 596 63 230 318 380 426 476 508 543 570 597 120 234 320 382 427 477 509 544 571 598 131 236 326 384 428 478 511 545 572 599 137 238 328 388 434 480 512 546 573 600 140 239 331 390 437481 513 547 574 601 146 240 333 391 443 482 514 548 575 602 150 242 334 393 445 484 515 549 576 603 152 243 337 395 446 485 516 550 577 604 153 244 340 397 448 486 517 551 578 605 154 250 343 399 456 488 518 552 579 606 166 255 348 400 457 489 521 553 580 607 167 257 352 403 458 490 522 554 581608 169 266 354 405 460 491 523 555 583 609 171 280 355 406 461 492 526 556 584 173284 359 410 463 493 528 557 585 200 285 361 411 464 494 531 558 586 205 289 363 412 465 495 533 559 587 210 290 365 413 466 497 534 560 588 211 295 367 415 467 499 535 561 589 215 297 369 416 468 500 536 562 590 216 299 370 417A 470 501 537 563 591 Any help before the end of the year (or thereafter) is appreciated and willbe reciprocated where possible. Thanks so much Lynn for the help, Gary Beard (OBC, VCT, Net54, The Bench, Card Trading Fools) 1014 Liada Way Oxnard, CA 93030 ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 19:02:02 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2015 Collecting goals From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" I very much enjoy the goal emails. Here are mine: 1. Close out my contemporaneous car HOF (1901-2001) list by getting a Dizzy Dean and Jack Chesbro 2. Get about 20 hits to my sets including another T200 3. Get more 1957-1986 blank backs, miscuts and wrong backs and put the samples I have on my web site 4. Close out my T113 5. Get 10 player collection hits 6. Hit Ed Hutchinson's Indians type list 7. Get a Mike Morgan 2000 Pacific Platinum Blue 427 On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM, jehutch75@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] < OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > As the year wraps up, I have been thinking about what I want to accomplish > in 2015 (yes, I know it is only the 7th, but I will be busy so much, I > wanted to post these while I was thinking about it) > Some of these goals are reasonable. Some arent, but who knows. > I would love to hear what other people are hoping to pull off in 2015 > So, in no particular order... > 1. Hit the need lists of at least 50 OBC members- although I hope to help > a lot more > 2. I need to get a start on the 72-79 Topps sets, and hopefully kill a few > 3. I want to finish my 1959 Topps baseball set > 4. Finish my 70s Topps football run, not counting the 72 Hi's > 5. Obtain at least 50 different vintage type cards for my as of yet not > started Cleveland Indians project > 6. Do all of this without emptying my bank account! ================= Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 19:17:46 -0800 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 2014 Highlights From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" In the spirit of Ed Hutchinson's look forward to 2015. Let's look back to 2014. What are your top ten highlights for 2014. I added 91 cards to the collection this year. Here are the top ten in chronological order. 1. January: Gord Ellis sends a 1952 Parkhurst Gerald Fahr for my type 2. January: Mac Wubben sends a T206 Knight. 3. February: Picked up a 1980 Topps color separation test x 8 of Mike Morgan RC which now resides safely in my Mike Morgan set. 4. July: Won a T200 Chicago White sox team card from ebay. 5. August: Steve Rittenberg revives my Sam McDowell wantlist with a 68 6. September: Won a 1968 Topps Action All-Stars test panel Perez,Robinson,McDowell from ebay. 7. September: Scored a 1962 Ford Motors Postcard Don Mossi off of ebay. I have wanted this one for awhile. 8. September: 1921 Exhibit George Sisler via ebay. I have been shutout for several years trying to win a Sisler. 9. October: 1895 N300 Mayo Kinslow by way of Net54. I have wanted one of these for the type collection. Got one with a nice 'stache to boot. 10. November: T200 Chicago Cubs team compliments of Sterling Sports Erik Greenwood ================= To: meyergray@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 22:33:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red heart Mantle opinion? From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Looks fine to me! I almost pulled the trigger on one at the National, but missed Did you see what the asking price was on the 64 Venezuelans? I have about 1/2 the set, and am on the look-out for more. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Jo Meyer and John Gray meyergray@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sun, Dec 7, 2014 9:56 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Red heart Mantle opinion? My friends, I just won an auction with a offer of 175 for this card.... Any opinions on if I just did good, or got in trouble by bidding before coffee...? In other news, I went to a card show yesterday in Holland MI that had two OBC dealers (JD and Mark Smith), and I saw things I did not see at the Nationals... Like a stack of 64 Venezuela cards that would choke a horse.... Picked up some baseball bucks and peel offs in the ninety minutes I had there.... Be happy, http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Red-Heart-18-Mickey-Mantle-BVG-POOR-1-/141498568095?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem20f1f8cd9f Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 20:58:46 -0800 Subject: Re: INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: "George Vrechek" I know our group is rather thrifty, but cripes, for about $22 you can get the most current version of the SCD vintage card guide which lists about 125,000 cards and their prices in various grades. It lists everything known prior to 1981. It includes nothing after 1980 which is fine with me. It gives prices for VG cards, it describes significant variations, and any info as to the origins of the sets. Given the wealth of information, I am 100% certain that there are errors in the book and prices that haven't been updated. Values are from probably two years ago at this point even though the book is just out. If you want to check prices, you can go to eBay but those results can be misleading depending on card condition, the identity and rating of seller, timing of listings, etc. It's not like there is a crew of 20 people cranking out these guides. A few guys do the best they can with the plethora of information. It is unavoidable that it is heavy to lug around. I use it as a reference book. You can subscribe to Beckett's online info but I'm pretty sure that will cost you more. Live it up, buy the guide. It's good holiday season reading. George Vrechek In the interest of full disclosure, I have been a freelance writer for SCD for 20+ years. This year I'm collecting any findings about goofs in the guide to give to the editor with the hope that they won't junk the paper book one of these days. They won't continue to publish a baseball guide if there aren't buyers like us. ================= Date: 07 Dec 2014 22:59:33 -0800 To: Subject: Re: INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 11:32:25 -0600 To: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: INPUT PLEASE: Tell me about the SCD From: obcjohn@gmail.com I'd get 2011 SCD. Newer editions are full omissions and errors. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2014, at 7:47 PM, "hoot_owl1@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings]" > noreply ================= Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:37:49 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: best trading forum? From: Robert Fitts what is the best forum for trading pre-war cards? ================= Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:40:09 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: anybody want to trade 1934-35 Diamond Stars? From: Robert Fitts I have duplicates of numbers 4 5 8 10 13 15 20 21 24 38 49 52 57 58 most are Good, some Fair, some low VG I=92m looking for similar condition Diamond Stars in return ================= To: "'Robert Fitts'" , Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 17:18:43 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] best trading forum? From: "Bob Donaldson" I would say Net54 http://www.net54baseball.com From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 4:38 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] best trading forum? what is the best forum for trading pre-war cards? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4235/8688 - Release Date: 12/05/14 ================= Date: 08 Dec 2014 16:59:06 -0800 To: Subject: 1964 Topps Giants Waivers (the set, not the team) From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 20:25:15 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Certified Dealers From: Larry Tipton Our OBC Certified Dealers page is up to date! I want to thank everyone for their feedback and also thank Joe Isaac for inputting all the information onto our website. I had a chance to talk to several of our new dealers, thatwas pretty cool. A couple of them remembered me from the National Convention. It was kind of nice to just talk to them without the "pressure" of a huge card show. Dealers are people too? hahaha! We have 23 Certified Dealers and 17 of them have pictures. We could use pictures of these OBC Certified Dealers: Jimmy Cardascia, William Chappel, Jack Kerekes, Mark Macrae, Mike Sandles, Dick Zimmerman. If you have a pictureof any of these guys send it my way, or if you see any of these guys at a show, take their picture and forward it to me. Mike Macrae if you are reading this, how about a picture:) ================= Date: 08 Dec 2014 19:36:18 -0800 To: Subject: Cardboard generosity... and cardboard tragedy. From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 22:50:41 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Cardboard generosity... and cardboard tragedy. From: richard dingman In case it will help, I have had a bunch of wet, warped and musty old cardswhich I tested by resoaking them in warm water with a drop of bleach (for the musty ones), then hours later take them out, pat them dry and press them under heavy weight between paper towel sheets. Every few hours replace the towels until cards are dry. Amazing how good and flat and clean they can become! But be sure to get them totally dry before you finish with the pressing, or they may warp again. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 19:36:18 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cardboard generosity... and cardboard tragedy. Listen up, I've got a story to tell. A story of cardboard generosity,and cardboard tragedy. As I mentioned, my family and I went on vacation for a couple weeks. While we were gone, of course I had the mail stopped. We were gonna drive back from South Carolina on Saturday, and come to the postoffice to pick it all up on Monday. (Which I did. There were 9 packages inthe But one thing I couldn't have foreseen is that someone would have *SO* muchto send they might choose to use UPS or FedEx to mail a larger box. So when we got home, there was a box on the porch. A cardboard box. A big cardboard box. A big, poor, swollen, wet, near-frozen, wretched, weather-distressed-cardboard Full of swollen, wet, near-frozen, wretched, weather-distressed-cardboard cards. Cards which I was really anticipating from Ed Pike. I very slowly and painstakingly opened the box and unpacked its contents onto our linoleum kitchen floor. I mentioned the contents on the UV server: - Empty boxes from 1982, 83, 85 Fleer... - 9 unopened packs of Return of the Jedi cards... - A complete 1984 Ralston Purina set... - The 1988 Fleer Dodgers team set... - And several THOUSAND un-scratched, un-separated 1981 Topps scratch-offs. There was so much stuff, I even forgot to mention a couple things: - A full set of 1982 Kmart cards and - A 1983 Fleer sticker album. Thankfully, not everything was wet. In fact, most of the contents were unaffected. About a fourth of the scratchoffs were quite wet, so I pulled out stacks of them and spread them around the kitchen floor. And the 1983 Fleer box was wet, but besides that, I think everything else survived the days ofwinter exposure unscathed. Who knows how many days they had actually been outside... I hesitated to tell this story because I don't, for a second, want Ed to have any negative feelings whatsoever about the situation. It's certainly nothis fault! And like I tell my kids when they break or spill something, "Hey... it's just stuff." One really great thing which came of this: my 11-year-old daughter was quite interested in the Return of the Jedi packs, so I opened one with her. Shethinks it's pretty cool that some of hers and Daddy's favorite movies havecards. And we will probably rewatch the original trilogy because of those packs. Perhaps the rest of the packs could end up in her stocking. I don't know... Another great thing: I have puh-LENTY of material to research the relative scarcity of card position varieties and reverses in the 1981 Topps Scratchoffs. Or at least the American League half of the set. Oh yeah, did I mention? *ALL* these panels are red... So I've got easily a hundred sets, but only cards 1-54. Which reminds me: if you have ANY requests from cards 1-54 ofthis set, I will fill them. Specific player? Sure. Specific team? No problem. A few holes to fill on your wantlist? I think I can help. Wanna upgradeyour scratched 'n detached Joe Charboneau to a nice pretty full sheet? Youjust lemme know. Hope you enjoyed story time! ================= Date: 09 Dec 2014 05:26:39 -0800 To: Subject: Trade Partner Ken Hanson? From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:06:12 -0500 To: james_moleta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Trade Partner Ken Hanson? From: Don Rice I just completed a nice trade with Ken where I sent some vintage football for which in return he sent enough '56 Topps Davy Crockett cards to nearly complete my set. It was an easy, pleasant, successful trade. I sent my football first and asked Ken to simply "send what he was comfortable with." He seems like a nice guy, an honest guy... and potentially an OBC kind 'o guy! Don Rice On 12/9/2014 8:26 AM, james_moleta@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Brethren, > Got an email today from a trader named Ken Hanson. He has a tough list > but says he has dealt with 6 or more OBCers in the past. Can anyone > offer feedback about Ken before I work on a deal with him? > PLMK - thanks! > James ================= Date: 09 Dec 2014 07:37:48 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Trade Partner Ken Hanson? From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= To: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:58:45 -0500 Subject: Goudey Ruth Gehrig ... From: "Bob Donaldson" Price seems hi to me, but this does seem like an OBC lot http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=198113 ================= Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 18:36:12 -0500 To: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: 2014-15 NFL Playoff Pool -- Second Call From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en Once again, I am going to be running an NFL playoff pool for all those interested. It is an interesting format where you always have one player active from each team. We had 16 participants last year, and already havehalf that many signed up after the first announcement last week. The entry fee is $1 to cover postage for the winners plus a baseball or football card, preferably pre-1980, with a current condition-adjusted value of about $10. In addition, because of some issues last year collecting entries, your entry fee plus card must be postmarked no later than the day before the first playoff game of the post-season. The playoff schedule obviously won't be finalized for several weeks, but if the playoffs were to start this weekend, the lineup would look like this: AFC Week 1: 6 Chargers at 3 Colts, 5 Steelers at 4 Bengals, 1 Patriots and 2 Broncos BYE (at least 5 more teams still in the hunt at 7-5t) AFC Week 2: 1 Patriots at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Broncos at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner AFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed NFC Week 1: 6 Lions at 3 Eagles, 5 Seahawks at 4 Falcons, 1 Cardinals and 2 Packers BYE (Dallas, San Francisco leading those still in the hunt) NFC Week 2: 1 Cardinals at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Packers at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner NFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed Week 4: Super Bowl The weekend of January 3-4 marks the start of our playoff pool. Here is how it works. Teams: Select a team of 12 players from the 12 teams in the playoffs. Your team must have 1, and only 1 player from each team and you are allowed exactly 2 QB=E2=99s, 4 RB=E2=99s, 4 WR=E2=99s, 1 TE, and 1 K (there are no defenses or special teams in the pool). In each game, every participant will have one player going from each team. Rank your players 1 through 12, with 1 being the player you think will score the most points overall throughout the playoffs, and 12 being the player you think will score the least points. These rankings are only used as a tiebreaker between prize winners if necessary. Submit your roster to me like this: QB Dawson KC (4), QB Staubach DAL (2), RB Davis DEN (1), RB Warner SEA (12), etc., with the number in parenthesis being your personal ranking of the player. Deadline: Picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday, January 3 at 8 AM Central Time. Once your team is submitted, it cannot be changed. Please remember that your entry fee and card must be postmarked no later than January Passing: Touchdown 4 points, Yardage 1 point for every 25 passing yards, -2 points for an interception, - 2 points for a fumble Rushing and Receiving: Touchdown 6 points, Yardage 1 point for every 10 yards, 1 point for every catch, -2 points for a fumble Kicking: Field Goals: 1-39 yards 3 points, 40-49 yards 4 points, 50-59 yards 5 points, 60+ yards 7 points. Missed (including bad snap) or Blocked FG 1-39 yards -2 points, 40-49 yards -1 point. PATs 1 point, missed PAT (for any reason unless a pass or run results in a conversion) -2 points There are NO points awarded for 2 point conversions or kick returns for Remember, four NFL teams will have 1st round byes, and could potentially play one less game than the other eight teams. The winner is determined by total points scored by their roster over the entire playoff season (four Tie Breaker: Since there is a possibility that more than one team can have the exact same players and/or total score, ties will be broken by the total points of the player with the # 1 ranking from each entry. If still tied, than # 2 will be used and so on until the tie is broken. Prizes (subject to change based on number of entries): Overall winner will get 75% of the cards, 2nd place gets 25%. (with such a high number of entries last year, the top four finishers received a prize) I hope to have rosters/rankings out before kickoff of the first game on Saturday, especially if I get your rosters early. Weekly results will be sent out as an Excel spreadsheet attachment in an email, usually on Monday before noon. Please let me know if you have any questions BEFORE the roster deadline. Remember, your entry must be postmarked no later than 11:59 PM on Friday, January 2, and your picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday,January 3 at 8 AM CST. And for those who have already agreed to play, please get your entries in. Looking forward to the pool, and a Happy Holiday season to you and your Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 21:08:50 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Been one helluva week.. From: ChicoD1@aol.com I have the emails saved for those asking on the wavier wire. Hope to have things sorted out by the end of the week and cards in the mail. There are still plenty available... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 07:48:58 -0500 To: obc-dealerscum@yahoogroups.com, Subject: OBC Dealer Scum Group REQUEST FEEDBACK From: Larry Tipton The test period for our Dealer Scum group ends Dec 31. After that, based on feedback, the AC will evaluate the test and then vote whether to continue(as is or with modifications) or terminate this group. Please provide feedback at obc-dealerscum@yahoogroups.com or to OBC-AC@yahoogroups.com Here are the rules: "This is an official OBC email group. The OBC-AC recognizes that members periodically sell cards to fund other card purchases or for other non-card needs. Our goal is to provide a forum where members may sell their extra cards (see suggested card guidelines below) to other members in order to fulfill these needs. The group is strictly limited to OBC members ONLY, and any OBC member may opt-in or out of the group email at their discretion. Guidelines & rules for OBC-Dealer Scum are as follows: 1) Cards for sale must be pre-1981 and may not have originated as RAOKs. This is not Ebay; cards should be priced in the spirit that we are a community of collectors, and not trying to gouge each other. Individual Topps or Bowman commons, or similarly cheap cards that typically flow freely on waiver wires should not be listed. 2) Once an item is posted for sale, all further communication shall be via private e-mail messages between the seller and prospective buyers. 3) At the conclusion of a successful purchase, thanks should be done via private e-mail messages between buyer and seller; parties are asked NOT to post thanks on the OBC-DealerScum email group. In other words, the only postings to OBC-DealerScum should be items for sale. 4) In the event of a dispute, the parties should first try to resolve their issue among themselves. Any buyer may return an item for a full refundwith no questions asked within two weeks of purchase. If the parties are unable to settle a dispute and the buyer does not request a refund, they maytake their dispute to the AC. 5) Unless decided upon by the OBC-AC, NO AUCTIONS will be permitted on OBC-DealerScum. ================= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 08:49:25 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: OBC Dealer Scum Group REQUEST FEEDBACK From: Robert Fitts I just joined, I think that this is a great idea! ================= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:02:44 -0500 To: obc-dealerscum@yahoogroups.com, Subject: RAOK From: Larry Tipton I need to stem the tide of hate mail (just kidding). OBC is a collecting and trading club and of course so much more than that. How are most of the OBC trades accomplished? RAOK. I send you a RAOK, the card is yours and yoursto do with as you please, it's yours! What if I send you a RAOK and then next week see it on the dealer scum server or for sale on ebay? Number one, OBCers are not going to do that, and if someone did, see how many more RAOKI would send! If an OBC member needs to sell something (it happens) you can't go through your collection and pull out all the RAOK, I can't even remember who sent me a card last month! Cards obtained via OBC trades (RAOK) are yours to do with as you please, they are yours! ================= To: "'Larry Tipton'" , Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:18:47 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-DealerScum] RAOK From: "Bob Donaldson" I agree with Larry. The only caveat would be if someone seemed to be putting up RAOK for sale constantly or even worse was putting up a want list in order to sell RAOK received. I can't see anyone doing that and if they did ebay would probably be a more profitable venue to sell. In general, I don't see it as being an issue, and does not seem to be so far during the dealer scum trial. Bob Donaldson From: OBC-DealerScum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-DealerScum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-DealerScum] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:03 AM To: obc-dealerscum@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-DealerScum] RAOK I need to stem the tide of hate mail (just kidding). OBC is a collecting and trading club and of course so much more than that. How are most of the OBC trades accomplished? RAOK. I send you a RAOK, the card is yours and yours to do with as you please, it's yours! What if I send you a RAOK and then next week see it on the dealer scum server or for sale on ebay? Number one, OBCers are not going to do that, and if someone did, see how many more RAOK I would send! If an OBC member needs to sell something (it happens) you can't go through your collection and pull out all the RAOK, I can't even remember who sent me a card last month! Cards obtained via OBC trades (RAOK) are yours to do with as you please, they are yours! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4235/8705 - Release Date: 12/09/14 ================= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:30:56 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: RAOK From: Larry Tipton Jimi I was kidding, no one is giving me a hard time. But I needed to add a bit more information on my thinking about RAOK on the Dealer Scum server. Ienjoyed reading your take and only wish I was as organized as you:) Once in awhile I will post a sticky note by my computer that lets me know I need to find a card for an OBCer who sent me something. But thats about the extent of my record keeping. Guru ================= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 19:55:37 -0500 To: "obc-dealerscum@yahoogroups.com" , Subject: Dealer scum 1941 Double Play Singles From: Robert Fitts At the Philly Show last weekend I picked up a large stack of 1941 Double Play =93singles=94 that is the cards cut in half so that each player has hisown card. I have 52 doubles. Most are VG some a little worse. Many can be reunited with their partner with tape. These are all commons or very minor stars. If any body wants them at cost ($1.50 each) it would be $75 for the lot. please let me know rob fitts ================= Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:34:09 -0500 To: Robert Fitts Subject: Re: [OBC-DealerScum] Dealer scum 1941 Double Play Singles ---- Follow From: Robert Fitts So, I=92ve had about 10 people asking IF I want to break i up then they would like =85 I really just want to get my money back by selling the lot but how about this, I will break up the lot and sell individuals at $5 each. That way, I can probably make my money back and you all can get the cards to want. please let me know if you are interested On Dec 10, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Robert Fitts robertfitts@verizon.net [OBC-DealerScum] wrote: > At the Philly Show last weekend I picked up a large stack of 1941 Double Play =93singles=94 that is the cards cut in half so that each player has his own card. I have 52 doubles. Most are VG some a little worse. Many canbe reunited with their partner with tape. These are all commons or very minor stars. If any body wants them at cost ($1.50 each) it would be $75 for the lot. please let me know > rob fitts > ------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------ > The OBC Dealer Scum server is to be used exclusively by OBC members to post vintage cards (1980 & earlier) for sale to other OBC members.Unless otherwise approved by the OBC-AC, auctions are not permitted. > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html > ------------------------------------ > Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 18:36:31 -0600 To: "" Subject: Congrats George From: TJ Valacak Just came home from a week at my parents (trying to stay away from suck kids). Got the mail. And our George Vrechek has the cover story! Congrats George! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: 11 Dec 2014 18:02:38 -0800 To: Subject: A few waiver wires- mostly 72 Topps baseball From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: 11 Dec 2014 19:21:11 -0800 To: Subject: It's hard to express how excited I am about this! From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 02:41:16 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Do you think it's real? From: ChicoD1@aol.com I saw this 51B Duke on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Bowman-32-Duke-Snider-baseball-card-/2216279878 The printing on the back just doesn't seem as crisp and the border looks pretty white to me. Might be just the photography, but here is an auction with good pics: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-Bowman-32-Duke-Snider-GOOD-D211303-/18151854426 Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:49:24 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Dealer Scum Server From: Larry Tipton If anyone else is having issues signing up send me an email. I'm one of theowners of the group and I can send you an invitation to join. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:22:02 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: '67 and '68 Topps push From: Gary Beard Got some recent help on my '67 Topps set, so I thought I'd send out an update as to what is left on my want list: (I'd love to get this around 150 left by the end of the year) 1967 Topps 1 225 314 379 428 478 507 541 566 590 5 226 315 380 434 480 508 542 567 591 30 230 318 384 437 481 509 543 568 592 45 234 320 388 443 482 511 544 569 593 50 236 326 390 445 484 512 545 570 594 63 238 328 391 446 485 513 546 571 595 120 239 331 393 456 486 514 547 572 596 131 240 333 395 458 488 515 548 573 597 137 242 334 397 460 489 516 549 574 598 140 243 337 399 461 490 517 550 575 599 146 244 340 400 464 491 518 552 576 600 150 250 343 406 465 492 521 553 577 601 153 255 354 410 466 493 522 554 578 602 154 266 355 411 467 494 526 555 579 603 166 280 359 415 468 495 528 556 580 604 171 285 361 416 470 497 531 557 581 605 173 289 367 417 471 499 534 558 583 606 200 290 369 418 472 500 535 559 584 607 205 295 370 420 473 501 536 560 585 608 210 297 371 423 474 502 537 561 586 609 215 299 372 424 475 503 538 562 587 216 300 374 425 476 505 539 563 588 221 309 377 426 477 506 540 565 589 ** 227 LEFT! ** Figured, while I'm at it, I'd update my '68 Topps needs in case anyone missed my '68 Topps push. Trying to get this set under 100 by years end: 1968 Topps 1 110 307 373 461 484 503 521 543 578 2 140 310 374 462 485 504 522 544 579 3 144 313 376 464 486 505 523 545 580 4 150 316 378 465 487 506 524 546 581 5 155 327 384 466 488 507 527 547 582 6 158 330 393 467 489 508 528 550 583 10 165 355 394 468 490 509 529 555 584 20 167 361 402 469 491 510 530 559 585 40 177 363 428 470 492 512 532 564 589 50 230 365 441 474 493 513 533 566 594 54 240 367 447 475 494 514 535 568 596 58 247 368 449 476 497 515 536 569 597 78 256 369 450 477 498 516 537 571 598 80 280 370 452 478 501 517 539 572 100 290 372 460 480 502 520 540 575 ** 148 LEFT! ** Any help would be greatly appreciated and reciprocated ASAP! Thanks, Gary Beard (OBC, VCT, Net54, The Bench, Card Trading Fools) 1014 Liada Way Oxnard, CA 93030 ================= Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:59:34 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: SGC grading results for OBC material? From: Matthew Glidden Just got confirmation that SGC slabbed several of my "biggest" prewar cards, all in OBC grade. A couple list as no grade, probably because they're missing too much card. :-) Are people interested in seeing how everything came out, once they arrive? ================= Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 14:57:37 -0800 To: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC grading results for OBC material? From: Stamper I would love to see them. John Stamper On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:59 PM, "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Just got confirmation that SGC slabbed several of my "biggest" prewar cards, all in OBC grade. A couple list as no grade, probably because they're missing too much card. :-) > Are people interested in seeing how everything came out, once they arrive? > Spike ================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 02:13:45 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: I need some education: 1934-36 Diamond Stars From: Geordie Calvert A couple weeks ago Spike sent out an alert on a couple of OBC-condition cards that were available on a BIN on eBay, one of which was a Diamond Stars Van Lingle Mungo. I snapped it up, and now I'm wanting to start that set (Dodgers only). So I went on the Bay and started looking around. I have a few questions: * Mungo has two cards the set: #19 (which I have) and #102. Those cards appear to be identical in every way with the obvious exception of the card number. Are there any other differences I should be looking for? * I see a listing for a Mungo green back. What other back variations should I be looking for? Am I going to be sucked into another horrible variation chase? (I'm looking at you, Glenn) * Anything else I need to know before I start chasing these? Thanks in advance! ================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:35:57 -0500 To: "familytoad@comcast.net" Subject: Re: SGC grading results for OBC material? From: Matthew Glidden Thanks Brian, sounds fine to me! Everyone's said "go for it" so far, so will post my SGC cards when they arrive and add a registry. On Friday, December 12, 2014, wrote: > Spike, > If you haven't done so already, consider creating a custom SGC registry on > their site, and scan each one of your newly stabbed gems. > Then share the link for all of us to scroll through the cards (and watch > the registry grow maybe;) > I love the display functionality of that registry...and those who have > followed my links know I have a few SGC graded cards to scroll > through . > OBC Forever, > Brian > Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App > ------ Original Message ------ > *From: *Stamper holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com > > [OBC-Ramblings] > *To: *Matthew Glidden > *Cc: *obc ramblings > *Sent: *December 12, 2014 at 2:57 PM > *Subject: *Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SGC grading results for OBC material? > I would love to see them. > John Stamper > On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:59 PM, "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > > [OBC-Ramblings]" > > wrote: > Just got confirmation that SGC slabbed several of my "biggest" prewar > cards, all in OBC grade. A couple list as no grade, probably because > they're missing too much card. :-) > Are people interested in seeing how everything came out, once they arrive? > Spike ================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:42:15 -0500 To: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need some education: 1934-36 Diamond Stars From: Matthew Glidden Hi Geordie, you've stumbled into quite a project, as the Diamond Stars were released across three years and the colored backs do reflect different varied printings. In addition to the colors and (c) year differences, 1934-36, they made a few errors that were later corrected, bumping up the Master Set by a few more. The PSA site has a pretty good breakdown of the http://www.psacard.com/Articles/articleview/8270/psa-set-registry-1934-36-diamond-stars-hobby-star-even-without-ruth-gehrig On Friday, December 12, 2014, Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > A couple weeks ago Spike sent out an alert on a couple of OBC-condition > cards that were available on a BIN on eBay, one of which was a Diamond > Stars Van Lingle Mungo. I snapped it up, and now I'm wanting to start that > set (Dodgers only). So I went on the Bay and started looking around. I > have a few questions: > * Mungo has two cards the set: #19 (which I have) and #102. Those cards > appear to be identical in every way with the obvious exception of the card > number. Are there any other differences I should be looking for? > * I see a listing for a Mungo green back. What other back variations > should I be looking for? Am I going to be sucked into another horrible > variation chase? (I'm looking at you, Glenn) > * Anything else I need to know before I start chasing these? > Thanks in advance! > Geordie ================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:58:37 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: OBC Santa package arrived! From: Jerry Coker Forgot to send this in my Thanks thread this morning. My OBC Santa gift hasarrived!! And it looks like Christmas in Vermont. We got between 1-2 feet of snow this week! I'm still digging out . But the sun is out :-)Jerry ================= Date: 13 Dec 2014 10:54:58 -0800 To: Subject: 1953-1966 Availables From: jdelott@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:38:44 +0000 (UTC) To: Larry Tipton , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Scum Server From: Patrick Prickett Hi Larry,I'm in!Please send me the link.Thaanks!Patrick On Friday, December 12, 2014 6:50 AM, "Larry Tipton larrytipton@windstream.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: If anyone else is having issues signing up send me an email. I'm one of the owners of the group and I can send you an invitation to join. Sent from my iPhone Posted by: Larry Tipton Although discussion of topics of general interest is permitted & encouragedon Ramblings, please remember that when referencing cards on the RAMBLINGSserver, ONLY information about VINTAGE cards (1980 and earlier) is permitted. For post-1980 cards, please use ONLY the UV server. OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Yahoo Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 00:07:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: trivia question From: Bob Saxton According to the news today, former White Sox player Mark Gilbert has been named ambassador to New Zealand. Certainly not the first former player to serve in a government position. But here's one for you: What former White Sox player served as governor of his state? Gonna need to go back quite a ways for this one gang! ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 03:06:37 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Fw: Fantasy Golf From: Lynn Miller #yiv3670154444 .yiv3670154444Btn-primary {display:inline-block;padding:10px 20px;cursor:pointer;text-align:center;zoom:1;text-decoration:none;border:1px solid #053496;color:#fff;background:#3775dd;}#yiv3670154444 .yiv3670154444Btn-primary:hover {text-decoration:none;background:#5370fa;cursor:pointer;}#yiv3670154444 .yiv3670154444Btn-sm {text-align:center;}Yahoo Sports Fantasy Golf#yiv3670154444 p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hello Lynn Miller,Welcome to Yahoo Sports Fantasy Golf.You have created the Private Group called OBC Hackers and entered the team called Hammers in that group. To allow other people to join this group, send them the Group ID# (732) and the Password (obc). Remember, it is the Group ID#, not the group name, that other people must use to join your group.If you would like to leave this group, simply go to the game front page and removeyourself via the "Leave a Group" link located within the "My Team and Groups" module.Thanks for joining. See you on the green.Go to Game-- Fantasy Golf Commissioner http://golf.fantasysports.yahoo.com | | | | | | | | | | | ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 01:26:37 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Varied Waivers From: ChicoD1@aol.com Everyone who put in a claim is getting something. Packages will be mailed out Monday and/or Tuesday. Thanks for lightening up the dupes box! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 09:01:24 -0600 Subject: looking for a couple of 72' Sunoco football stamps From: "ken goetsch" Would like to knock this off........ 1972 Sunoco football stamps. Packers team set needs. 16- Hunter 42-John Brockington 48-Ken Ellis 78-Bob Brown Any help greatly appreciated. Ken Goetsch 156 Parkview Lane Watertown, Wi. 53094 ================= To: Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:24:33 -0800 Subject: Sy Berger of Topps From: "George Vrechek" Butch Jacobs, former director of photography for Topps, called me this morning. He had just received a call from Gloria Berger, Sy's wife. Sy Berger, 91, passed away in his sleep last night. Services are pending. I will let you know if I learn more. He was a good guy and will be greatly missed. An article ran in SCD on 9/19/14 about Sy and is on our library page: http://oldbaseball.com/refs/Sy_Berger.pdf George Vrechek ================= Date: 14 Dec 2014 08:36:35 -0800 To: Subject: Waiver Wire From: mp1067@Hotmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:33:42 -0600 To: "" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need some education: 1934-36 Diamond Stars From: john harrell The #102 is the 1936 release of the Mungo card. Diamond Stars were released in 34, 35, and 36. The only differences are the color of the backs Green vs Blue and updates to the stats, except that a couple of fronts have minor alterations to the uniforms.. There are 170 cards in the master set. Some cards were released in 34 only, some in 34 and 35, and some in 34, 35, and 36. I wrote an extensive article for Old Cardboard mag back in 09 on the Diamond Stars set. Be happy to send a copy to the OBC site to be posted. ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:34:44 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC)" Subject: Pricing question: Red Man From: Geordie Calvert Thanks to those that helped me understand Diamond Stars. I have another regarding Red Man, specifically with pricing. Obviously "with tab" will carry a premium. My 2011 Standard Catalog says that cards without the tab "are worth about 25-35% of the stated values." Would you guys agree that that is still the case? Kit Young has a '53 Pee Wee Reese with tab - he's asking $26 + shipping; I got him down to $23.50 + shipping. Is that about right for an OBC-condition Red Man? You guys that collect these - do you collect both with and without tab? ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:26:41 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Who was looking for... From: ChicoD1@aol.com Cleveland Indian cards? I remember someone saying that they would have trouble finding Ralph Kiner in an Indians uniform... Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:38:15 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pricing question: Red Man From: cardclctor@aol.com Content-Language: en I've found that these are very frequently overpriced. I have an old guide (2005), but it still lists the no tab versions at about 1/4 - 1/3 of the ones with the tab intact, so that info is still valid. Creases, rounded corners and poor cutting off of the tab should reduce the price even more... keyword: SHOULD. The guide I have lists the Reese at $35 in NM and $7 in VG without the tab. ($165 and $35 with tab respectively). I don't think they've more than tripled in price over the last ten years, but I may be wrong. Kit Young isn't the best guy in the world to get OBC condition deals from (although I have picked a diamond or two in the rough from him once in a while). I haven't bought any in a while, but there weren't too many that Ipaid more than $20 for (Ted Williams, Musial, Mays and maybe a Snider) and that was only because the had the later expiration date variations that are harder to find (oh yeah, almost every card has two versions - you're welcome). I'm only collecting them without the tabs - mostly for financial reasons. There was a time not too long ago that I was picking up group lots on eBay for $5/ea. or so... sometimes there were stars or with tab cards in the lots as well. Now the only ones I've seen on there recently are slabbed versions at completely outrageous prices or no tab versions I can buy right for more than a tabbed version should be. Good luck with your quest, Ken M In a message dated 12/14/2014 3:39:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: Thanks to those that helped me understand Diamond Stars. I have another regarding Red Man, specifically with pricing. Obviously "with tab" will carry a premium. My 2011 Standard Catalog says that cards without the tab "are worth about 25-35% of the stated values." Would you guys agree that that is still the case? Kit Young has a '53 Pee Wee Reese with tab - he's asking $26 + shipping; I got him down to $23.50 + shipping. Is that about right for an OBC-condition Red Man? You guys that collect these - do you collect both with and without tab? ================= Date: 14 Dec 2014 18:45:13 -0800 To: Subject: The reason we collect cards From: bdangelo@aol.com ================= Date: 15 Dec 2014 11:16:57 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Who was looking for... From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 04:35:30 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Play College Bowl Pick'em with me From: Jeffrey Whitworth http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/bowl/group/14633/invitation?key=ee1f6272d1c6f4dd The winner will get a prize from me. :) Jeff Whitworth ================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:13:55 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Christmas Message from Glenn & Maureen From: Glenn Codere Seasons Greetings!! As we did last year, Maureen and I have decided to forego the purchase and posting of cards, resorting instead to email and the intrawebs. In place ofthe expense of cards and postage, we will make a donation to our favouritecharity, Chest Heart & Stroke Scotland. 2014 has been another good year for us. We both got through it healthy and still employed, although the lure of retirement continues to grow stronger as the years go on. It was always going to be tough to beat our holiday experiences of 2013, but we enjoyed a wonderful holiday in September, spending 12 days in Boston and New England celebrating Maureen=E2=99s birthday with family. We also became a great aunt/uncle for the 6th time over , with more still to come! Our annual barbecue in July proved to be one of our most successful yet, with decent weather and more people attending than ever before. As usual, plenty of food and drink was devoured, and the leftovers filled our freezer for the next month. We always enjoy the buzz of having so many friends and family over and mixing at the same time. Although the prep is all a bit stressful, the atmosphere on the day always makes it all worth it! Our 2015 event may however have to be postponed until later in the year. We=E2=99re giving some serious consideration to having a kitchen/dining room extension built on to our house which if things go to plan would most likely mean building work going on throughout most of the summer. For those of you who know our house, we=E2=99re looking at a single storey structure off the gable end. Our current kitchen would be redeveloped into a utility room and small cloakroom/WC. We feel that although we probably still haveone more move left in us, we=E2=99ll most likely be in this house for at least another 7-9 years, so we want to set it up in a way that will give us the most enjoyment during that time. Maureen and I would like to send our best wishes to you and yours for health, happiness, and prosperity during the holiday season and 2015. Here=E2=99s hoping all your plans come together and your dreams come true!! Glenn & Maureen December 2014 ================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:40:18 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Dodgers bonanza on eBay From: Jake Elwell I got some cards from this seller & he delivered great service. If I were aDodgers fan I'd be all over this lot -- http://www.ebay.com/itm/1950-74-LARGE-COLLECTION-OF-DODGERS-BASEBALL-X-72-CARDS-/191444445030?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem2c92fa6766 ================= To: Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:30:42 -0800 Subject: Olbermann's piece on Sy Berger From: "George Vrechek" Keith Olbermann's piece on the late Sy Berger is well worth watching. Didn't know the Tom(my) Reynolds story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHHmMAcOIXg George Vrechek ================= Date: 16 Dec 2014 16:54:31 -0800 To: Subject: Some 70s waiver wire stuff From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= To: "obc" Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 05:19:17 -0600 Subject: Down to just 1 card needed for Topps 73' Baseball From: "ken goetsch" I am down to just 1-card needed for Topps 1973 baseball set......# 615- Mike would like to trade for 1-...........not fussy on condition.......[actuallyvg at best is really what the overall set condition is]. Does anybody have 1- to offer. LMK what you are looking for in return. Thanks in advance for any response. Ken Goetsch ================= Date: 17 Dec 2014 07:45:04 -0800 To: Subject: article From: rlabs1@yahoo.com ================= Date: 17 Dec 2014 10:18:07 -0800 To: Subject: Address book? From: xtrjmx@cox.net ================= Date: 17 Dec 2014 10:39:10 -0800 To: Subject: Re: Address book? From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 17 Dec 2014 15:11:12 -0800 To: Subject: a few more waiver wires From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:28:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Unopened Pack advice From: Patrick Prickett Hi All,So I recently found a good deal on unopened packages that I couldn't refuse and while I'm pleased with the deal overall, when I got the lot one of the 1978 Topps unopened packs was "opened". By this Imean that some of the glue holding the back together appears to have disappated over time... some is still there but you can open the pack and see what's inside if you want.I didn't do that (so I have no idea what's inside) because I wasn't planning on opening this pack at this time (I just saw enough to see that the cards appear to have very sharp corners andappear untouched).It's possible that the person before me looked at these ... but the lot had 2 other 1978 and 3 other 1979 packs in it ... andnone of these are "opened" ... so I think it's honestly just the glue wearing on this one pack.If I eventually decide to open these myself ... I suppose this is no big deal. But if I ever decided I wanted to sellthem (this isn't my usual collecting interest - I just picked them up because they seemed like a good deal)... is there anything Ishould do? I know there are pack grading services. Would they grade itif it was open? Is it even worth it to send these in? Like I said, this is outside my usual collecting interests ... so if others have expertise in this area I would appreciate getting some advice. (The 1978 unopened packs aren't terribly rare ... but they aren't that commoneither from what I can gather).Thanks,Patrick ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 03:42:12 +0000 (UTC) To: "Prickett, Patrick" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice From: mark_macrae@comcast.net I've had similar experiences with late 70's / early 80's packs that I've owned since the year of issue. The environment in which these packs are stored has a lot to do with their long term survival. Its always possible that someone tried to 'peak' at the cards, but either way the packs will not be viewed / sellable as unopened... When this happens I just open the pack slowly and try to preserve the wrapper. The gu will likely taste as good as it did in the year of issue, but I wouldn't recommend consuming it.....Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice Hi All, So I recently found a good deal on unopened packages that I couldn't refuseand while I'm pleased with the deal overall, when I got the lot one of the1978 Topps unopened packs was "opened". By this I mean that some of the glue holding the back together appears to have disappated over time ... some is still there but you can open the pack and see what's inside if you want. I didn't do that (so I have no idea what's inside) because I wasn't planning on opening this pack at this time (I just saw enough to see that the cards appear to have very sharp corners and appear untouched). It's possible that the person before me looked at these ... but the lot had2 other 1978 and 3 other 1979 packs in it ... and none of these are "opened" ... so I think it's honestly just the glue wearing on this one pack. If I eventually decide to open these myself ... I suppose this is no big deal. But if I ever decided I wanted to sell them (this isn't my usual collecting interest - I just picked them up because they seemed like a good deal)... is there anything I should do? I know there are pack grading services.Would they grade it if it was open? Is it even worth it to send these in? Like I said, this is outside my usual collecting interests ... so if othershave expertise in this area I would appreciate getting some advice. (The 1978 unopened packs aren't terribly rare ... but they aren't that common either from what I can gather). ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:59:06 -0500 To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: NFL Post Season Football Pool - 3rd call! From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en Once again, I am going to be running an NFL playoff pool for all those interested. It is a very fun format where you always have one player active from each team in each game. We had 16 participants last year, and already have more than half that many signed up after the first two announcements this year. For those who have never played fantasy football, this may seem a bit complicated. But once you read how to pick a team, you will see it isn't all that tough. And if your home town team is out of it, and benching the highest paid QB in the league this week 'cuz he is so awful, it at least keeps the playoffs interesting! The entry fee is $1 to cover postage for sending the winners their prizes plus a baseball or football card, preferably pre-1980, with a current condition-adjusted value of about $10. Your entry fee plus card must be postmarked no later than Friday, January 2, 2015. The playoff schedule won't be finalized until December 28, but if the playoffs were to start this weekend, the lineup would look like this: AFC Week 1: 6 Ravens at 3 Colts, 5 Steelers at 4 Bengals, 1 Patriots and 2 Broncos BYE (6 more teams still in the hunt at 7-7) AFC Week 2: 1 Patriots at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Broncos at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner AFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed NFC Week 1: 6 Packers at 3 Cowboys, 5 Seahawks at 4 Saints, 1 Cardinals and 2 Lions BYE (3 teams still in the hunt, including the 5-9 Falcons) NFC Week 2: 1 Cardinals at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Lions at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner NFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed Week 4: Super Bowl The weekend of January 3-4 marks the start of our playoff pool. Here is how it works. Teams: Select a team of 12 players from the 12 teams in the playoffs. Your team must have 1, and only 1 player from each team and you are allowed exactly 2 QB=E2=99s, 4 RB=E2=99s, 4 WR=E2=99s, 1 TE, and 1 K (there are no defenses or special teams in the pool). In each game, every participant will have one player going from each team. Rank your players 1 through 12, with 1 being the player you think will score the most points overall throughout the playoffs, and 12 being the player you think will score the least points. These rankings are only used as a tiebreaker between prize winners if necessary. Submit your roster to me like this: QB Dawson KC (4), QB Staubach DAL (2), RB Davis DEN (1), RB Warner SEA (12), etc., with the number in parenthesis being your personal ranking of the player. Deadline: Picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday, January 3 at 8 AM Central Time. Once your team is submitted, it cannot be changed. Please remember that your entry fee and card must be postmarked no later than January Passing: Touchdown 4 points, Yardage 1 point for every 25 passing yards, -2 points for an interception, - 2 points for a fumble Rushing and Receiving: Touchdown 6 points, Yardage 1 point for every 10 yards, 1 point for every catch, -2 points for a fumble Kicking: Field Goals: 1-39 yards 3 points, 40-49 yards 4 points, 50-59 yards 5 points, 60+ yards 7 points. Missed (including bad snap) or Blocked FG 1-39 yards -2 points, 40-49 yards -1 point. PATs 1 point, missed PAT (for any reason unless a pass or run results in a conversion) -2 points There are NO points awarded for 2 point conversions or kick returns for Remember, four NFL teams will have 1st round byes, and could potentially play one less game than the other eight teams. The winner is determined by total points scored by their roster over the entire playoff season (four Tie Breaker: Since there is a possibility that more than one team can have the exact same players and/or total score, ties will be broken by the total points of the player with the # 1 ranking from each entry. If still tied, than # 2 will be used and so on until the tie is broken. Prizes (subject to change based on number of entries): Overall winner will get 75% of the cards, 2nd place gets 25%. (with such a high number of entries last year, the top four finishers received a prize) I hope to have rosters/rankings out before kickoff of the first game on Saturday, especially if I get your rosters early. Weekly results will be sent out as an Excel spreadsheet attachment in an email, usually on Monday before noon. Please let me know if you have any questions BEFORE the roster deadline. Remember, your entry fee must be postmarked no later than 11:59 PM on Friday, January 2, and your picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday,January at 8 AM CST. And for those who have already agreed to play, please get your entries in. I only have one so far. Looking forward to the pool, and a Happy Holiday season to you and your Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 06:28:47 -0600 To: Patrick Prickett Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice From: Bob Donaldson I've tried gum from an 80s pack and it was disgusting. Be warned Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Thanks Mark! > I always suspected that the gum would taste the same!!! > On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:42 PM, "mark_macrae@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Patrick, > I've had similar experiences with late 70's / early 80's packs that I've owned since the year of issue. The environment in which these packs are stored has a lot to do with their long term survival. Its always possible thatsomeone tried to 'peak' at the cards, but either way the packs will not beviewed / sellable as unopened... When this happens I just open the pack slowly and try to preserve the wrapper. The gu will likely taste as good as it did in the year of issue, but I wouldn't recommend consuming it.....Mark > From: "Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:56 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice > Hi All, > So I recently found a good deal on unopened packages that I couldn't refuse and while I'm pleased with the deal overall, when I got the lot one of the 1978 Topps unopened packs was "opened". > By this I mean that some of the glue holding the back together appears tohave disappated over time ... some is still there but you can open the pack and see what's inside if you want. > I didn't do that (so I have no idea what's inside) because I wasn't planning on opening this pack at this time (I just saw enough to see that the cards appear to have very sharp corners and appear untouched). > It's possible that the person before me looked at these ... but the lot had 2 other 1978 and 3 other 1979 packs in it ... and none of these are "opened" ... so I think it's honestly just the glue wearing on this one pack. > If I eventually decide to open these myself ... I suppose this is no big deal. But if I ever decided I wanted to sell them (this isn't my usual collecting interest - I just picked them up because they seemed like a good deal) ... is there anything I should do? I know there are pack grading services. Would they grade it if it was open? Is it even worth it to send these > Like I said, this is outside my usual collecting interests ... so if others have expertise in this area I would appreciate getting some advice. (The 1978 unopened packs aren't terribly rare ... but they aren't that common either from what I can gather). > Thanks, > Patrick ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 13:20:00 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Non Sports From: Larry Tipton Is anyone collecting: 1971 Topps "Partridge Family (3rd series green cards) 1977 Topps "Autos of 1977" I have some dupes and would look at your want list. ================= Date: 18 Dec 2014 15:38:39 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice From: mikerw7@gmail.com ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:03:00 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: TCMA's Mike (and Andrew) Aronstein now active on Net54 From: Matthew Glidden Oddball/minor/70s fans, check out a thread welcoming Mike to Net54. The current form of TCMA still prints the HOF induction cards for Cooperstown, a nice connection to our vintage world. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187964 ================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:43:21 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1961 post stobbs cost From: Anthony Hello all Down to one to ice the set. What is a fair privacy for ex/VG condition card. Henderson has one for $185. Others I have seen are avg$250 Sent from my iPad ================= To: =?utf-8?B?b2JjIHJhbWJsaW5ncw==?= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:10:39 GMT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 post stobbs cost From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= Date: 19 Dec 2014 06:22:50 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 post stobbs cost From: james_moleta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:48:08 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Going to have to lie low for awhile From: Doug The past six months or so I have enjoyed a bit of a resurgence in getting more involved in the group and made some big strides on finishing some sets and making major progress on others. I even started a few new ones, which may or may not have been so smart. However, life has thrown a bit of a curveball and I will need to slack off a bit for the next few months. My wifehas had a reemergence of a cancer we thought we were rid off. She will fit in a PET scan and surgery before the end of the year and then a lymph node biopsy and some radiation treatments in January/February. After that we will reassess and go from there. We will be doing some out of town traveling to an academic medical center a few times for consultations as this is an unusual one. Hopefully this is just another little pothole in the road and nothing more, but for a while the extra time, energy (and money but that is secondary!) will be going elsewhere. I know I owe a bunch folks so paybacks may be a little bit delayed! Sent from my iPad ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:03:25 -0500 Subject: Christmas Exchange From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, I forgot (old age) as to who is running the Christmas Exchange? Happy Holidays, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 00:14:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: Its here From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= To: "Bob Donaldson" , Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 19:53:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice From: "Supreme Commander" When I was a kid in 1974 I was carefully opening cello packs until I gotthe Aaron. When I did, I closed up the pack and put it away. It is a nice keepsake. Then, around 1991 when I was learing about "old" cards, I realized that for all I knew, the gum was next to the Aaron! I panicked! I dug out the pack, and thankfully, the gum was not next to the Aaron, phew! Then, Iwas sitting there holding a 17 year old piece of gum. I pondered, and then had to do it... the gum instanly dissolved on my toung into a sandy disgusting mush that I quickly spit out. Trust me, you don't want to put that stuff in your mouth! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] To: Patrick Prickett Cc: mark_macrae@comcast.net ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice I've tried gum from an 80s pack and it was disgusting. Be warned Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: Thanks Mark! I always suspected that the gum would taste the same!!! On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:42 PM, "mark_macrae@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: I've had similar experiences with late 70's / early 80's packs that I've owned since the year of issue. The environment in which these packs are stored has a lot to do with their long term survival. Its always possible that someone tried to 'peak' at the cards, but either way the packs will not be viewed / sellable as unopened... When this happens I just open the pack slowly and try to preserve the wrapper. The gu will likely taste as good asit did in the year of issue, but I wouldn't recommend consuming it.....Mark From: "Patrick Prickett patrick_prickett@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice Hi All, So I recently found a good deal on unopened packages that I couldn't refuse and while I'm pleased with the deal overall, when I got the lot one ofthe 1978 Topps unopened packs was "opened". By this I mean that some of the glue holding the back together appears to have disappated over time ... some is still there but you can open the pack and see what's inside if you want. I didn't do that (so I have no idea what's inside) because I wasn't planning on opening this pack at this time (I just saw enough to see that the cards appear to have very sharp corners and appear untouched). It's possible that the person before me looked at these ... but the lothad 2 other 1978 and 3 other 1979 packs in it ... and none of these are "opened" ... so I think it's honestly just the glue wearing on this one pack. If I eventually decide to open these myself ... I suppose this is no big deal. But if I ever decided I wanted to sell them (this isn't my usual collecting interest - I just picked them up because they seemed like a good deal) ... is there anything I should do? I know there are pack grading services. Would they grade it if it was open? Is it even worth it to send these Like I said, this is outside my usual collecting interests ... so if others have expertise in this area I would appreciate getting some advice. (The 1978 unopened packs aren't terribly rare ... but they aren't that common either from what I can gather). ================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 20:25:32 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice From: ChicoD1@aol.com Content-Language: en LOL I did the same thing, but I think my gum was carbon dated. Damn near puked it out of my mouth, couldn't remove it fast enough! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 In a message dated 12/19/2014 7:53:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes: When I was a kid in 1974 I was carefully opening cello packs until I got the Aaron. When I did, I closed up the pack and put it away. It is a nice keepsake. Then, around 1991 when I was learing about "old" cards, I realized that for all I knew, the gum was next to the Aaron! I panicked! I dug out the pack, and thankfully, the gum was not next to the Aaron, phew! Then, I was sitting there holding a 17 year old piece of gum. I pondered, and then had to do it... the gum instanly dissolved on my toung into a sandy disgusting mush that I quickly spit out. Trust me, you don't want to put that stuff in your mouth! ----- Original Message ----- From: _Bob Donaldson obcbobd@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]_ To: _Patrick Prickett_ (mailto:patrick_prickett@yahoo.com) Cc: _mark_macrae@comcast.net_ (mailto:mark_macrae@comcast.net) ; _obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:28 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice I've tried gum from an 80s pack and it was disgusting. Be warned Sent from my iPhone On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Patrick Prickett _patrick_prickett@yahoo.com_ (mailto:patrick_prickett@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings] <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: Thanks Mark! I always suspected that the gum would taste the same!!! On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:42 PM, "_mark_macrae@comcast.net_ (mailto:mark_macrae@comcast.net) [OBC-Ramblings]" <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > wrote: I've had similar experiences with late 70's / early 80's packs that I've owned since the year of issue. The environment in which these packs are stored has a lot to do with their long term survival. Its always possible that someone tried to 'peak' at the cards, but either way the packs will not be viewed / sellable as unopened... When this happens I just open the pack slowly and try to preserve the wrapper. The gu will likely taste as good as did in the year of issue, but I wouldn't recommend consuming it.....Mark From: "Patrick Prickett _patrick_prickett@yahoo.com_ (mailto:patrick_prickett@yahoo.com) [OBC-Ramblings]" <_OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com) > To: _obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:28:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Unopened Pack advice Hi All, So I recently found a good deal on unopened packages that I couldn't refuse and while I'm pleased with the deal overall, when I got the lot oneof the 1978 Topps unopened packs was "opened". By this I mean that some of the glue holding the back together appears to have disappated over time ... some is still there but you can open the pack and see what's inside if you want. I didn't do that (so I have no idea what's inside) because I wasn't planning on opening this pack at this time (I just saw enough to see that the cards appear to have very sharp corners and appear untouched). It's possible that the person before me looked at these ... but the lot had 2 other 1978 and 3 other 1979 packs in it ... and none of these are "opened" ... so I think it's honestly just the glue wearing on this one pack. If I eventually decide to open these myself ... I suppose this is no big deal. But if I ever decided I wanted to sell them (this isn't my usual collecting interest - I just picked them up because they seemed like a good deal) ... is there anything I should do? I know there are pack grading services. Would they grade it if it was open? Is it even worth it to send these in? Like I said, this is outside my usual collecting interests ... so if others have expertise in this area I would appreciate getting some advice.(The 1978 unopened packs aren't terribly rare ... but they aren't that common either from what I can gather). ================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 12:40:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com " Subject: 69T OBC condition waiver wire From: mark holland Due to all of the OBC responses to my 69T wantlist I have acquired enough dupes to offer a waiver wire to "pay it forward". Most of the these are OBC only grades and may not be suitable if you are condition sensitive. But they actually look better in the binder than a blank so they makegreat Claim away! Please send address.Mark 1969 Topps - 14(x3), 17, 22, 23(x2), 29, 33, 34, 38(x2) 42(x2), 46, 57, 62,65, 66, 67, 80, 81, 89, 96(2), 117, 149, 185, 200, 205, 209, 214, 314, 323, 332, 334, 341, 368, 377, 397, 414(x2), 437, 442, 449, 481 Mark Holland Want List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: 20 Dec 2014 16:55:40 -0800 To: Subject: 1976 Topps Traded Waiver Wire From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:12:41 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: Former player from 1952 seeking his own card From: Matthew Glidden Hi guys, Got a nice note via my post on some Canadian 1952 Provincial League cards: http://number5typecollection.blogspot.com/2011/12/1952-bedard-and-donaldson-aka-laval.html It's a former player seeking his own card in the set, a tough task thanks to its obscurity. Since they're not readily available on eBay, I'd like to point him towards the most likely dealers for regional and oddball sets in that area or decade. Other than guys like Levi of 707 and Kit Young, anyone else OBCers would try? Already checked on Net54 with no success so far. I can pass along any recommendations or reach out to stanw1101@comcast.net if you'd like to make contact yourself! Would be great if OBC can help this guy out. ================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 17:24:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "Glidden, Matthew" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Former player from 1952 seeking his own card From: mark_macrae@comcast.net I just saw your post on net54 & will send Stan a note. I have an extra one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" To: "obc ramblings" Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:12:41 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Former player from 1952 seeking his own card Hi guys, Got a nice note via my post on some Canadian 1952 Provincial League cards: http://number5typecollection.blogspot.com/2011/12/1952-bedard-and-donaldson-aka-laval.html It's a former player seeking his own card in the set, a tough task thanks to its obscurity. Since they're not readily available on eBay, I'd like to point him towards the most likely dealers for regional and oddball sets in that area or decade. Other than guys like Levi of 707 and Kit Young, anyone else OBCers would try? Already checked on Net54 with no success so far. I can pass along any recommendations or reach out to stanw1101@comcast.net if you'd like to make contact yourself! Would be great if OBC can help thisguy ================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:48:16 -0500 To: MARK_MACRAE@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Former player from 1952 seeking his own card From: Matthew Glidden Thanks Mark! On Dec 21, 2014 12:26 PM, wrote: > Spike, > I just saw your post on net54 & will send Stan a note. I have an extra one. > Mark > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" < > OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com> > *To: *"obc ramblings" > *Sent: *Sunday, December 21, 2014 9:12:41 AM > *Subject: *[OBC-Ramblings] Former player from 1952 seeking his own card > Hi guys, > Got a nice note via my post on some Canadian 1952 Provincial League cards: > http://number5typecollection.blogspot.com/2011/12/1952-bedard-and-donaldson-aka-laval.html > It's a former player seeking his own card in the set, a tough task thanks > to its obscurity. Since they're not readily available on eBay, I'd like to > point him towards the most likely dealers for regional and oddball sets in > that area or decade. Other than guys like Levi of 707 and Kit Young, anyone > else OBCers would try? Already checked on Net54 with no success so far. > I can pass along any recommendations or reach out to stanw1101@comcast.net > if you'd like to make contact yourself! Would be great if OBC can help this > guy out. > Spike ================= Date: 21 Dec 2014 19:41:31 -0800 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Former player from 1952 seeking his own card From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 00:45:38 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: First five scans from SGC submission From: Matthew Glidden Added five scans from a recent SGC submission, which I sent to authenticate my biggest Goudeys and Bowmans, plus a D381 found at the recent Wilmington show. Will post more when I find a better way to get good focus, as my own scanner can't quite orient on the card with that lucite surface in the way. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 SGC gave "10 poor" to anything that wasn't trimmed and authenticated the rest, other than two that were "missing too much paper to grade." I think we all have a few cards like that. :-) ================= Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:20:08 -0500 To: Matthew Glidden , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] First five scans from SGC submission From: Don Rice As someone who has never sent a card in for grading, can someone educate me and explain what warrants an "Authentic" grade vs a "Poor" grade? In looking at the scans it looks a card with any type of "human modification" such as trimming, writing, tape, or punch hole maxes out as "A" whereas as an otherwise low grade but "human-free" card starts out as a "1-Poor." So how did I do? Thanks! On 12/22/2014 12:45 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Added five scans from a recent SGC submission, which I sent to > authenticate my biggest Goudeys and Bowmans, plus a D381 found at the > recent Wilmington show. Will post more when I find a better way to get > good focus, as my own scanner can't quite orient on the card with that > lucite surface in the way. > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 > SGC gave "10 poor" to anything that wasn't trimmed and authenticated > the rest, other than two that were "missing too much paper to grade." > I think we all have a few cards like that. :-) > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:19:32 -0500 To: Don Rice Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] First five scans from SGC submission From: Matthew Glidden You got it right, Don, anything with trimming or holes can be "Authentic" and intact cards (even in bad shape) get a "10 - poor" number grade. (Not shown is the large ink spot on the back of my 52B Willie Mays, which guaranteed its OBC status, regardless of completeness.) On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Don Rice dkrice@nycap.rr.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > As someone who has never sent a card in for grading, can someone educate > me and explain what warrants an "Authentic" grade vs a "Poor" grade? In > looking at the scans it looks a card with any type of "human modification" > such as trimming, writing, tape, or punch hole maxes out as "A" whereas as > an otherwise low grade but "human-free" card starts out as a "1-Poor." So > how did I do? Thanks! > Don > On 12/22/2014 12:45 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Added five scans from a recent SGC submission, which I sent to > authenticate my biggest Goudeys and Bowmans, plus a D381 found at the > recent Wilmington show. Will post more when I find a better way to get good > focus, as my own scanner can't quite orient on the card with that lucite > surface in the way. > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 > SGC gave "10 poor" to anything that wasn't trimmed and authenticated the > rest, other than two that were "missing too much paper to grade." I think > we all have a few cards like that. :-) > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:24:46 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Another random tragedy. From: Glenn Codere Hey guys, If you can please spare a thought for my adopted home city which has just suffered it's second random tragedy in just over a year. It never fails to amaze me how this town pulls together when faced with aversity. Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:13:09 -0800 To: Matthew Glidden , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] First five scans from SGC submission From: David Fallen I don't think that is quite right. Cards with pencil or ink marks on them (even some writing) can still get a number grade with an "MK" qualifier. Also, I've seen a lot of T206 cards with back stamps that still are graded by PSA. Cards with a pinhole usually grade a PSA 1 regardless of how nice the rest of the card is. On 12/22/2014 12:19 PM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > You got it right, Don, anything with trimming or holes can be > "Authentic" and intact cards (even in bad shape) get a "10 - poor" > number grade. (Not shown is the large ink spot on the back of my 52B > Willie Mays, which guaranteed its OBC status, regardless of > completeness.) > Spike > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Don Rice dkrice@nycap.rr.com > [OBC-Ramblings] > > wrote: > As someone who has never sent a card in for grading, can someone > educate me and explain what warrants an "Authentic" grade vs a > "Poor" grade? In looking at the scans it looks a card with any > type of "human modification" such as trimming, writing, tape, or > punch hole maxes out as "A" whereas as an otherwise low grade but > "human-free" card starts out as a "1-Poor." So how did I do? Thanks! > Don > On 12/22/2014 12:45 AM, Matthew Glidden glidden.matthew@gmail.com > [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: >> Added five scans from a recent SGC submission, which I sent to >> authenticate my biggest Goudeys and Bowmans, plus a D381 found at >> the recent Wilmington show. Will post more when I find a better >> way to get good focus, as my own scanner can't quite orient on >> the card with that lucite surface in the way. >> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 >> SGC gave "10 poor" to anything that wasn't trimmed and >> authenticated the rest, other than two that were "missing too >> much paper to grade." I think we all have a few cards like that. :-) >> Spike ================= To: dodgergeo@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 21:21:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pricing question: Red Man From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I think I am among the very few OBCers that collect Red Mans with tabs.Some will collect them any way they find them and others without tabs only. Ken Morganti and I and now a few others collect the Red Mans with the different offer dates on the back. When added to the with and without, I amtrying to collect all 4sets for a master set. Ken is stopping at 2 sets. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Geordie Calvert dodgergeo@comcast.net [OBC-Ramblings] To: Ramblings (OBC) Sent: Sun, Dec 14, 2014 3:34 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Pricing question: Red Man Thanks to those that helped me understand Diamond Stars. I have another regarding Red Man, specifically with pricing. Obviously "with tab" will carry a premium. My 2011 Standard Catalog says that cards without the tab "are worth about 25-35% of the stated values." Would you guys agree that that is still the case? Kit Young has a '53 Pee Wee Reese with tab - he's asking $26 + shipping; I got him down to $23.50 + shipping. Is that about right for an OBC-condition Red Man? You guys that collect these - do you collect both with and without tab? ================= Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 14:50:15 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com " Subject: Looking for set prioritization tips From: mark holland Had some time to work on my want list and think about collecting goals for 2015. Here is the status of all my set want lists. You can see I have many sets in progress. The sets in red are second sets. I am excited to get hits from any set. With that being said, I may never complete all of my first sets before completing second sets of others. How do you guys do it? Do you list them like I have and hope for the best? post a priority? not post second sets? I want to target the 58-67 first sets next year ...but hate to take the other sets off of my list. OK, share your goal setting and prioritization tips.Thanks! | Set | Total Cards | Have | Need | % complete | | 1971 Topps | 752 | 582 | 170 | 77.4% | | 1970 Topps | 720 | 645 | 75 | 89.6% | | 1969 Topps | 664 | 151 | 513 | 22.7% | | 1968 Topps | 598 | 552 | 46 | 92.3% | | 1967 Topps | 609 | 579 | 30 | 95.1% | | 1966 Topps | 598 | 577 | 21 | 96.5% | | 1965 Topps | 598 | 463 | 135 | 77.4% | | 1964 Topps | 587 | 523 | 64 | 89.1% | | 1963 Topps | 576 | 339 | 237 | 58.9% | | 1962 Topps | 598 | 596 | 2 | 99.7% | | 1961 Topps | 589 | 387 | 202 | 65.7% | | 1960 Topps | 572 | 374 | 198 | 65.4% | | 1959 Topps | 572 | 495 | 77 | 86.5% | | 1958 Topps | 494 | 341 | 153 | 69.0% | | 1957 Topps | 407 | 194 | 213 | 47.7% | | 1956 Topps | 340 | 95 | 245 | 27.9% | | 1955 Topps | 206 | 92 | 114 | 44.7% | | 1954 Topps | 250 | 47 | 203 | 18.8% | | 1953 Topps | 274 | 37 | 237 | 13.5% | | 1952 Topps | 407 | 13 | 394 | 3.2% | | 1951 Topps Blue Back | 52 | 47 | 5 | 90.4% | Mark HollandWant List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= To: "'mark holland'" , Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 14:24:54 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for set prioritization tips From: "Matt Yudt" Hi Mark Love these threads and reading about the diversity of the collections and interests. Like you, and many of us at some point, I've been focused on the Topps run from 52-80. Also, like many, and contrary to the rational advice given recently, I've been working backwards (if I was completely rational I wouldn't spend money on little pieces of cardboard anyway). When I joined OBC in Feb 2011 I needed over 7200 cards - which was ~56% of them all. Today I need about 1900 - which is over 88% complete - not bad for 4 years!. I first focused on a few sets immediately preceding the ones I was "actively" pursuing - 68, 69, 70. Right before I joined the group I decided to work on a few earlier sets because I liked them (57 & 60) and also 66 because someone said it was relatively easy (I guess they weren't talking about high #'s). A couple other points about my 'priority' and where I see my collection going. Never had, and still don't have, an interest in 2nd sets. I've often wanted to pick a few of my 70's sets at least and go for updgrades - however, I don't see that happening soon either, and here's why. I think I've crossed a threshold this year - where I realize that soon my Topps want list will look like all the other longer-term or higher budget collectors in the group (hi#'s, Mantles, and star rookies etc.) So although I started up a few other 'non-Topps run' sets before this year, it was only the past 4 months or so where I realize this is where the next great fun lies. Bowmans, Fleer, Kellogs, TCMA, Hostess, Post/Jello and on and on - there are so many things to find (in the budget boxes too) to keep the fun going. Sure I will work on finishing that topps run, and I'll wind up needing even more Mantles and SP's, but there is so much more to find in those bargain Here is my last comment in closing. I think you can find two types of collectors (to oversimplify of course) - the horders and the savor-ers. A guy like Mike Rich might represent the former and a guy like Geno Wagner the latter. I'm a horder (just ask my wife) - so I'm going for it all. My goal this year will be to get as many new cards for my collection that I can find for as little money as I possibly can spend. When the next dealer at a table asks me what I'm looking for, the answer will be "good deals on anything I don't have". Sorry for the really long answer. List them all and DON'T take anything off the list, would be my advice - everyone knows how to scroll :-). Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mark holland mholland28412@yahoo.com [OBC-Ramblings] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:50 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for set prioritization tips Had some time to work on my want list and think about collecting goals for 2015. Here is the status of all my set want lists. You can see I have many sets in progress. The sets in red are second sets. I am excited to get hits from any set. With that being said, I may never complete all of my first sets before completing second sets of others. How do you guys do it? Do you list them like I have and hope for the best? post a priority? not post second sets? I want to target the 58-67 first sets next year ...but hate to take the other sets off of my list. OK, share your goal setting and prioritization tips. Total Cards % complete 1971 Topps 1970 Topps 1969 Topps 1968 Topps 1967 Topps 1966 Topps 1965 Topps 1964 Topps 1963 Topps 1962 Topps 1961 Topps 1960 Topps 1959 Topps 1958 Topps 1957 Topps 1956 Topps 1955 Topps 1954 Topps 1953 Topps 1952 Topps 1951 Topps Blue Back Mark Holland Want List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:27:56 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Arrival From: EEK Secret Santa's package is under the tree and it's recipient eagerly awaits one minute after midnight! Thanks in advance Santa, I know coming from OBC it will be special! Earl Kilbourn "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 00:45:17 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: thanks and xmas From: Joshua Levine Thanks out tonight to Peter I. for a very nice Christmas card for Tiffany and I. Also, wanted to let my secret santa know that the package arrived this afternoon but the wife put it in the stocking and won't let me open it until tomorrow morning!! So thanks to whoever sent it from NY. Happy Holidays everyone! ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 06:22:10 GMT Subject: Naughty or Nice? From: "cardclctor@aol.com" ================= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 06:16:50 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Secret Santa From: Larry Tipton My Secret Santa was Brandon Wax. Brandon sent me my gift several weeks ago,and I remember thanking him on the Thanks server. And I also remember trying to guess what was inside "it feels like a slabbed card and a marble". I was kind of close:) Brandon sends me the last card I needed to complete my 1950 Bowman set #77 Duke Snider graded and slabbed PSA 2.5! Yes my 1950 Bowman set is complete thanks to my Secret Santa Brandon PARTY TIME!!!! Now I almost pulled the trigger a few times on eBay on this card, but something else always came up. It really is a nice looking card. Don't know if I will crack it out of thisPSA holder or not (first thought I had was out to the workbench to grab myhammer) but I think I will keep it intact for now. What about that "marble" I felt inside my gift? Brandon read on my OBC bio that I am a Civil War history "buff", and included a bullet dug from the Port Hudson Battlefield from his home state of Louisiana. Of course I've seenthese before, but this is the first one I've owned and cool because I knowwhere it came from. And of course I've just read some about the Port Hudson Thank You Very Much Brandon great gifts! What a great OBC year it's been! Merry Christmas OBC! ================= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 08:12:40 -0500 To: "OBC Thanks" , "OBC Ramblings" Subject: OBC Santa! From: "Jimmy Parker"
Merry Christmas to all of my OBC buddies! Hope your day is as enjoyable as mine.

OBC Santa, otherwise known as Steve Hitzeman, has had a puffy sitting under the tree for several days now. Just had a chance to tear into it (My Little Pony castles don't put themselves together) an found a plethora of hits to several lists. Inside were the following goodies:

4 hits to the 1958 Topps list, highlighted by a Cubs Team Card, an unmarked checklist and a Moose Skowron All-Star!
A 1959 Topps Bobby Thompson
A duo of 1960 Topps - Billy Martin and Dick Groat
4 hits to the 1966 Topps list, highlighted by Tug McGrawand Lou Brock
3 1970 Topps hits - Ryan Saves the Day!, Gaylord Perry and a nosebleed
and Steve finishes it off with 3 hits to the'71 Topps set, highlighted by a Baylor/Baker rookie card!

An amazing package on an amazing morning. Thanks a ton Steve!

And thanks OBC,
Jimmy "Catfish" Parker
...Save the gum for me!
================= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 10:01:23 -0800 To: Thanks OBC , Subject: Secret Santa has been Judged From: Stamper My Secret Santa box sat under the tree for the past three weeks. Almost tore into last night as we were still up after midnight but waited til the morning. Bob "Judge guy" Saxton was my Secret Santa and he delivered!!! A stack of 68's started the gift followed by a few UV and finished with three vintage Baseball Digest books. Featured on the cover were Bill Buckner as a Cub, Aug 79. Next Goose Gossage without his stache as a clean cut Yankee, from April 79 and Jan 79 with Yeager, Blair and Jackson. Looking forward to reading these as soon as I can them back from Karyn. She is thumbing through themnow. Merry Christmas to everyone!! John Stamper ================= Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 19:42:46 -0600 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Stan and Willie pic From: MarkZ My son and daughter in law got me this nice picture to hang in my tv and card room, very nice! They also got a smaller one of the gas house gang to go in my grandson's room. Mark Zentkovich ================= Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:56:29 -0500 To: obc ramblings Subject: 1933/34 Goudey and other OBC slabs posted to Yahoo album From: Matthew Glidden Finished posting the slabs from my recent SGC submission of Ruth / Gehrig / Mantle / Mays cards. Almost all made it into a coffin, with two notable https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 Those last couple of cards got a "too much card missing" comment from those finicky SGC guys. I bet Guru's grading would come to a different conclusion! :-) ================= To: Matthew Glidden , obc ramblings Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 11:25:45 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1933/34 Goudey and other OBC slabs posted to From: Taylor Schock Cool cards, Spike! In fairness, I can understand why a card MIGHT get a "too much card missing" designation, when there might be not enough to even ensure it was authentic. I could see someone 'wearing' the crap out of a bogus card JUST to get it to pass as an "authentic" grade. Not saying there wasn't enough of the card in this case, just saying that Ican understand why the TPGs might take that position. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:56:29 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1933/34 Goudey and other OBC slabs posted to Yahooalbum Finished posting the slabs from my recent SGC submission of Ruth / Gehrig /Mantle / Mays cards. Almost all made it into a coffin, with two notable exceptions. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 Those last couple of cards got a "too much card missing" comment from thosefinicky SGC guys. I bet Guru's grading would come to a different conclusion! ================= Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 11:49:01 -0500 To: Taylor Schock Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1933/34 Goudey and other OBC slabs posted to From: Matthew Glidden Oh yeah, agreed the "too much missing" comments are reasonable. I was poking fun at them because I expected even MORE of those "ungradeable" results, to be honest. :-) To SGC's credit, they included a two-card credit voucher, should I submit more in the future. Pretty good all-around experience, even if I now feel like getting a confirmed authentic Ruth to be 100% done with 1933 On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Taylor Schock taylor_schock@hotmail.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Cool cards, Spike! > In fairness, I can understand why a card MIGHT get a "too much card > missing" designation, when there might be not enough to even ensure it was > authentic. I could see someone 'wearing' the crap out of a bogus card JUST > to get it to pass as an "authentic" grade. > Not saying there wasn't enough of the card in this case, just saying that > I can understand why the TPGs might take that position. > Regards, > Taylor > ------------------------------ > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:56:29 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1933/34 Goudey and other OBC slabs posted to > Yahoo album > Finished posting the slabs from my recent SGC submission of Ruth / Gehrig > / Mantle / Mays cards. Almost all made it into a coffin, with two notable > exceptions. > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/OBC-Ramblings/photos/albums/2118093613 > Those last couple of cards got a "too much card missing" comment from > those finicky SGC guys. I bet Guru's grading would come to a different > conclusion! :-) > Spike ================= Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:01:40 -0800 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Xmas/Christmas/Holiday Thanks from Coupeville From: Mike Diamanti Well Cardboard Nuts: I feel the same way Geno does -- the Xmas Exchange is the most fun, once a year, that I experience with OBC. Patrick Prickett was my Secret Santa and he graced me with a fistful of '54 Topps baseball, but sitting in the bottom of the group, acting casual, was a Sweet Caporal 1909-12 PX& Domino Disc of Erwin, playing for the Brooklyn What?! Never had one, never paid attention to them, now I have one. Thanks Patrick, for making this OBC Xmas special !! Mike (Coffeedude) Diamanti ================= Date: 26 Dec 2014 11:40:06 -0800 To: Subject: Some day after Christmas waiver wires From: jehutch75@gmail.com ================= Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 21:49:01 +0000 (UTC) To: "" Subject: My newest T205s From: familytoad@comcast.net ================= Date: 26 Dec 2014 13:53:29 -0800 To: Subject: Thanks to Dan Angland! From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 02:23:20 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Personal Website Maintenance From: ChicoD1@aol.com Well boys, I decided to try to clean up my web site a little bit. I always run into confusion when it comes to hockey and basketball sets... which year do you use for the cards. SO to avoid confusion with my Rangers needs, they now have their own page on my web site WITH pictures. At least here, you will be able to see what card I'm actually talking about. I have also cleaned up the main page a little bit. I added 1977 Cloth Stickers (the top of my page tells what sets are on that web page). Put lined separators between all the sets. I still need to work on the fonts, as they are different for different sets (This is due to the fact that, when I had the AOL pages, I would make each list a different background color, different size text, etc. I still use those as my master lists on my computer- I don't just use the web site for my want list. I paste from my computer lists into the web pages. Having a backup is important). I have also made all my lists into WANT lists. I know I get confused when I'm pulling cards out. I get halfway through, then realize they are all HAVES. Call it old age. I strive for consistency LOL. I also noticed that some folks here have their pages with different hosting sites. Some of these sites are (no offense) horrendous. Pop ups and ads all over the place. These also can cause problems, as these "ads" can provide you with cookies that can make your web experience a little less than good. Just throwing this out there... there are a lot of free hosting sites that work well. I use Google, which does a nice job of letting me edit easily, and all you see is my want list without extraneous money making ads. The template provides a list of the different pages on the left that you can peruse and the navigation is easy. Some are using other sites that work just as well. And they are more creative than I am, and they look amazing. I'm not a big fan of "frames", as depending on the browser you are using, you don't always see the list left to right without scrolling. I am open to suggestions. Take a look at my pages and let me know what I can do to make your experience easier than it has been for my site. This was part of my New Years OBC resolution, might be a good idea to check your site and see how the navigation is. IMHO, the site isn't for me, it's for you guys. Maybe some will look at my site a little more often ;-) ! Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:24:01 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Personal Website Maintenance From: richard dingman Good post. Makes me realize that I do have trouble reading some sites as it is hard totell where one year's wants ends and another begins. There is no clear break between years, or even different sports. When thishappens I have a tendency to give up really quickly and just close the page. Maybe this is old age - no patience! Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 02:23:20 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Personal Website Maintenance Well boys, I decided to try to clean up my web site a little bit. I always run into confusion when it comes to hockey and basketball sets... which year do you use for the cards. SO to avoid confusion with my Rangers needs, they now have their own page on my web site WITH pictures. At least here, you will be able to see what card I'm actually talking about. I have also cleaned up the main page a little bit. I added 1977 Cloth Stickers (the top of my page tells what sets are on that web page). Put lined separators between all the sets. I still need to work on the fonts, as they are different for different sets (This is due to the fact that, when I had the AOL pages, I would make each list a different background color, different size text, etc. I still use those as my master lists on my computer- I don't just the web site for my want list. I paste from my computer lists into the web pages. Having a backup is important). I have also made all my lists into WANT lists. I know I get confused when I'm pulling cards out. I get halfway through, then realize they are all HAVES. Call it old age. I strive for consistency LOL. I also noticed that some folks here have their pages with different hosting sites. Some of these sites are (no offense) horrendous. Pop ups and ads allover the place. These also can cause problems, as these "ads" can provide you with cookies that can make your web experience a little less than good. Just throwing this out there... there are a lot of free hosting sites that work well. I use Google, which does a nice job of letting me edit easily, and all you see is my want list without extraneous money making ads. The template provides a list of the different pages on the left that you can peruse and the navigation is easy. Some are using other sites that work just as well. And they are more creative than I am, and they look amazing. I'm not a big fan of "frames", as depending on the browser you are using, you don't always see list left to right without scrolling. I am open to suggestions. Take a look at my pages and let me know what I can do to make your experience easier than it has been for my site. This was part of my New Years OBC resolution, might be a good idea to check your site see how the navigation is. IMHO, the site isn't for me, it's for you guys. Maybe some will look at my site a little more often ;-) ! OBC - 1992 ================= Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 09:27:54 -0500 To: richard dingman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Personal Website Maintenance From: Joel Freedman I found google websites to be most helpful, especially when using the tablefeature. https://sites.google.com/site/jefreedman1/topps-football-wantlist https://sites.google.com/site/jefreedman1/red-sox-cards-wanted On Dec 27, 2014, at 9:24 AM, richard dingman brightair@msn.com [OBC-Ramblings] wrote: > Sal, > Good post. > Makes me realize that I do have trouble reading some sites as it is hard to tell where one year's wants ends and another begins. > There is no clear break between years, or even different sports. When this happens I have a tendency to give up really quickly and just close the page. Maybe this is old age - no patience! > Richard D > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 02:23:20 -0500 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Personal Website Maintenance > Well boys, > I decided to try to clean up my web site a little bit. I always run into confusion when it comes to hockey and basketball sets... which year do you use for the cards. SO to avoid confusion with my Rangers needs, they now have their own page on my web site WITH pictures. At least here, you will be able to see what card I'm actually talking about. > I have also cleaned up the main page a little bit. I added 1977 Cloth Stickers (the top of my page tells what sets are on that web page). Put lined separators between all the sets. I still need to work on the fonts, as theyare different for different sets (This is due to the fact that, when I hadthe AOL pages, I would make each list a different background color, different size text, etc. I still use those as my master lists on my computer- I don't just use the web site for my want list. I paste from my computer lists into the web pages. Having a backup is important). > I have also made all my lists into WANT lists. I know I get confused whenI'm pulling cards out. I get halfway through, then realize they are all HAVES. Call it old age. I strive for consistency LOL. > I also noticed that some folks here have their pages with different hosting sites. Some of these sites are (no offense) horrendous. Pop ups and ads all over the place. These also can cause problems, as these "ads" can provide you with cookies that can make your web experience a little less than good. > Just throwing this out there... there are a lot of free hosting sites that work well. I use Google, which does a nice job of letting me edit easily,and all you see is my want list without extraneous money making ads. The template provides a list of the different pages on the left that you can peruse and the navigation is easy. Some are using other sites that work just as well. And they are more creative than I am, and they look amazing. I'm not a big fan of "frames", as depending on the browser you are using, you don't always see the list left to right without scrolling. > I am open to suggestions. Take a look at my pages and let me know what I can do to make your experience easier than it has been for my site. This was part of my New Years OBC resolution, might be a good idea to check your site and see how the navigation is. IMHO, the site isn't for me, it's for you guys. Maybe some will look at my site a little more often ;-) ! > Sal Domino > OBC - 1992 ================= Date: 27 Dec 2014 08:52:12 -0800 To: Subject: Denied for OBC-NATIONAL From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 11:57:01 -0500 To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Subject: 2014-15 Football Pool -- Final Call ! From: smartalecx@aol.com Content-Language: en Once again, I am going to be running an NFL playoff pool for all those interested. It is a very fun format where you always have one player active on each team in each game. We had 16 participants last year, and almost that many have signed up for this year's pool thus far! For those who have never played fantasy football, this may seem a bit complicated. But once you read how to pick a team, you will see it isn't all that tough. And if your home town team is out of it, at least keeps the playoffs interesting! The entry fee is $1 to cover postage for sending the winners their prizes plus a baseball or football card, preferably pre-1980 or a modern card of a pre-80s player, with a current condition-adjusted value of about $10. Your entry fee plus card must be postmarked no later than this Friday, January 2, 2015. The playoff schedule won't be finalized until tomorrow night (13 of the 16 games tomorrow have playoff implications going into the day), but if the playoffs were to start today, the lineup would look like this: AFC Week 1: 6 Chargers at 3 Bengals, 5 Steelers at 4 Colts, 1 Patriots and 2 Broncos BYE AFC Week 2: 1 Patriots at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Broncos at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner AFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed NFC Week 1: 6 Cardinals at 3 Cowboys, 5 Packers at 4 Panthers, 1 Seahawks and 2 Lions BYE NFC Week 2: 1 Seahawks at home vs. lowest seeded Week One winner, 2 Lions at home vs. highest seeded Week One winner NFC Week 3: Week 2 winners at home of highest remaining seed Week 4: Super Bowl Next weekend (January 3-4) marks the start of our playoff pool. Here is how it works. Teams: Select a team of 12 players from the 12 teams in the playoffs. Your team must have 1, and only 1 player from each team and you are allowed exactly 2 QB=E2=99s, 4 RB=E2=99s, 4 WR=E2=99s, 1 TE, and 1 K (there are no defenses or special teams in the pool). In each game, every participant will have one player going from each team. Rank your players 1 through 12, with 1 being the player you think will score the most points overall throughout the playoffs, and 12 being the player you think will score the least points. These rankings are only used as a tiebreaker between prize winners if necessary. Submit your roster to me like this: QB Dawson KC (4), QB Staubach DAL (2), RB Davis DEN (1), RB Warner SEA (12), etc., with the number in parenthesis being your personal ranking of the player. Deadline: Picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday, January 3 at 8 AM Central Time. Once your team is submitted, it cannot be changed. Please remember that your entry fee and card must be postmarked no later than January Passing: Touchdown 4 points, Yardage 1 point for every 25 passing yards, -2 points for an interception, - 2 points for a fumble Rushing and Receiving: Touchdown 6 points, Yardage 1 point for every 10 yards, 1 point for every catch, -2 points for a fumble Kicking: Field Goals: 1-39 yards 3 points, 40-49 yards 4 points, 50-59 yards 5 points, 60+ yards 7 points. Missed (including bad snap) or Blocked FG 1-39 yards -2 points, 40-49 yards -1 point. PATs 1 point, missed PAT (for any reason unless a pass or run results in a conversion) -2 points There are NO points awarded for 2 point conversions or kick returns for Remember, four NFL teams will have 1st round byes, and could potentially play one less game than the other eight teams. The winner is determined by total points scored by their roster over the entire playoff season (four Tie Breaker: Since there is a possibility that more than one team can have the exact same players and/or total score, ties will be broken by the total points of the player with the # 1 ranking from each entry. If still tied, than # 2 will be used and so on until the tie is broken. Prizes (subject to change based on number of entries): Overall winner will get 75% of the cards, 2nd place gets 25%. (with such a high number of entries last year, the top four finishers received a prize) I hope to have rosters/rankings out before kickoff of the first game on Saturday, especially if I get your rosters early. Weekly results will be sent out as an Excel spreadsheet attachment in an email, usually on Monday before noon. Please let me know if you have any questions BEFORE the roster deadline. Remember, your entry fee must be postmarked no later than 11:59 PM on Friday, January 2, and your picks must be submitted to me via email (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) no later than Saturday,January at 8 AM CST. And for those who have already agreed to play, please get your entries in. I only have one so far. Looking forward to the pool, and a Happy Holiday season to you and your Gary Mandell P.O. Box 180333 Chicago, IL 60618-0676 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= Date: 27 Dec 2014 10:49:11 -0800 To: Subject: Who needs 1972 Sunoco FB stamps? From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 21:02:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com " Subject: 69T waiver wire - part 2 From: mark holland 69 Topps baseball waiver wire....again OBC grade, checklist marked, writingon a few, creases are abundant. If you are condition sensitive then these may not be for you. But my goal is to recycle 100% of the dupesback into OBC. And I learned from Spike's postings this week that these should all be gradable. None have pieces missing. They are all 100% intact, just "well loved". So if you have always wanted to get a well loved Al McBean card graded then these are definitely for you. Ifthey use decimal points on grading cards less than a 1 then this is your chance to be the proud owner of a .13 Dave Adlesh. Better hurry these might go fast now that people realize the grading potential. Investment opportunity??????Please send address.Mark 69T Baseball - 7, 14(x3), 22, 23(x2), 28, 29(x2), 36, 38(x2), 42(x2), 62, 65, 66, 81, 89(x2), 93, 94, 96(x2), 98(x2), 102, 107. 123, 143, 149(x2), 164, 185, 205, 209(x2), 214, 222, 223(x2), 227(x2), 323, 332, 341, 368, 375, 377, 414, 504 Mark HollandWant List: http://vintagebaseballcardwantlist.weebly.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 21:00:14 -0500 To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC National 2015: Mark your calendars! From: cardclctor@aol.com Greetings all, Aaron Shirley sent a message to the server that he couldn't join the National server. Turns out, I happened to be poking around that area before I got his email. I've updated the web page to reflect the dates of the 2015 show and edited the welcome email, which had you sending messages to eGroups, not Yahoogroups - also solving a mystery we encountered last summer. I also started poking around hotels.com and priceline. I got a $50 coupon from eBay to use on hotels.com (with a rental of $350+). Unfortunately, the coupon had to be used in less than a week for a stay before March 31st. Well, I ended up booking a place on priceline anyway. I spent $8-10/night more ($66/night) and got a room with two beds, a fridge and a microwave instead of just the king bed. The place also has free parking (another consideration when booking in Chicago), free wifi, an airport shuttle (I think - I'm driving, so it wasn't a major factor in my decision) and also a meeting room/conference room that I will look into in the next week or so to check rates/availability for the swap session. I can cancel the reservation up until late July and haven't been charged yet. If you're keeping score at home though( or want to try to get a room in the same place or close by), the place is the Elk Grove Hotel 1600 Oakton St. Elk Grove Village, IL 60007 Tel:(847)981-0010. I'm staying Tue. 7/28- Mon. 8/3. The main reason I'm writing this? The vacation calendar goes up at work pretty soon and I've already penciled in that week for vacation. I'm the senior guy at work, so I get to pick my weeks first. But if you're in a first come/first served situation (or need time to schmooze your coworkers), then you might want to get your requests in ASAP. The show is set to run from Wed. July 29th through Sun. August 2nd, 2015. According to the schedules, the Cubs are home on Monday(7:05), Tuesday(7:05) and Wednesday(1:20) against the Nationals, then go on the road. The White Sox start a homestand vs. the Yankees on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. (All game times TBD). I'm already thinking about the Wed. afternoon game, but I wouldn't want to miss an opportunity to root against the Yankees either. I went to Wrigley the last time I attended the show in Chicago - in 2005, but haven't been to a White Sox home game yet. If you're thinking about making an appearance at the swap, that's scheduled for Sat. night August 1st, 2015 at around 7PM. Location TBD (hopefully Other OBC activities are sure to be scheduled, usually at the last minute or whenever our GPS starts working correctly. Is Mother Hubbard's still owned by Jim Rittenberg? That might be a good place for dinner on Thursday, as there's no local baseball game that night. Seven months is a lot of time to add suggestions and make plans. I'm looking forward to this being the best National ever. Hope to see a ton of you there, Ken M - PS - if you want to subscribe to the National server to get the latest updates, reply to me and I'll invite you to the list. You can also try to send an email to _obc-national-subscribe@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:obc-national-subscribe@yahoogroups.com) and hopefully I'll get a notification to add you to the list. ================= Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 08:16:45 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Meet-Up?? From: Larry Tipton Seems like more than a few OBC members vacation in Florida this time of year. Next Saturday Jan 3 is our monthly local show in Jacksonville and I'll be there. If anyone needs more info LMK usually a good selection of our kindof Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 08:18:40 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Who needs 1972 Sunoco FB stamps? From: Joe and LaShelle Denning To second that, I just picked up a part filled book in OBC condition with some loose stamps as well for most of the 26 teams. Let me know your needs. Thanks. Joe Denning ================= Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 18:56:09 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 57 Dodger Values From: ChicoD1@aol.com Need a little help. A guy has a 57 Dodgers team set available. Cards range about VG for the most part. I only need 6-- of course it's the 6 biggest of the team. Anyone got a guide handy and can shoot me some values? Where do you think the bidding should be on these? 15- Drysdale 210- Campanella 284- Zimmer 302- Koufax 324- Team card 400 Dodger Sluggers Not sure how high I will or can go on this, but any input is appreciated. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-TOPPS-BROOKLYN-DODGERS-FILLER-CARD-Low-Grade-LO Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 20:22:19 -0500 Subject: Re: My newest T205s From: Ed Pike Wow, that is great news Brian! Congratulations. I'm right behind you with about 10% of the set done and only 90% to go :). I am collecting the NL designs and about 20% of the way on those. Love those T025's, favorite baseball vintage set ever. Ed Pike ================= Date: 28 Dec 2014 18:54:18 -0800 To: Subject: Last Waiver of 2014 From: kenpillion@windstream.net ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 06:15:21 -0500 Subject: 2015 COLLECTING GOALS From: Mac Wubben Following up from past years... 2012 (Leftover goals) Finish 68 OPC (34 to go) 8 to go (2013) Now down to 3. Finished...Thanks Year in review Sets Started: e101, e102, e103, e106, m101-2, all the kelloggs, 77 Topps Cloth, N300, Cracker Jack Pins, 1935 National Chicle football, 55 Bowman Football Sets Finished: E93, 1933 Goudey, 1941 Play Ball, 68 OPC, 70 Kelloggs, 74 OPC, 76 Dairy Isle, 77 Hostess Old Goals and Progress 10 Hits to the 49 Bowman set (39 to go)--14 hits (25 to go) 3 Hits to the 51 Bowman list (don't think I'll get Mickey or Mays) (5 to go)--down to 2 4 Hits to the 52T High Number list (34 to go)--down to 27 7 Hits to the 71 OPC set (19 to go)--Need 10 Finish the 74 OPC set (4 to go)--Finished One hit to the top 6 list: 5 E103 Williams Caramel Lajoie---Got it 7 Hits to the E92 Mixed but mostly Dockmans (9 to go)--still need 7 Finish the E93 Set (Wagner)--Got it! Finish the base T3 (need Tenney) and pick off one of the 3 variations--got one 6 Hits to the 1914-1915 Cracker Jack set (need 22)--bought & sold a bunch-at 4 Hits to the T207 list (need 11)--Down to 5 Finish the P2 Pins (need 12)--Down to 3 5 Hits to the T210 series 3 set (need 23)--need 19 8 Hits to the B18 Blankets (need 16)--now need 6 Finish the 1933 Goudeys...just one more Ruth man--Got it! Finish the 1941 Play Balls! (just need Gomez)--Got it! Say it every year--Type Set Finish B18 Blankets (need 6) 4 Hits to the T210 list (need 19) Finish the P2 Pins--Need 3 1 hit to the t207 list (need 5) 7 hits to the Cracker Jack list (need 22) Finish T3 base set and pick up 1 of the 2 variations 5 hits to the E92 (need 7) One hit to the top 5 list: 1 Red Cross Tobacco Lajoie 2 1916 Zeenut Billy Southworth 3 1927 Middy Bread Die-Cut Billy Southworth 4 E105 Mello Mint Lajoie 5 t213-3 Lajoie 10 hits to the 49B list (need 25) 3 hits to the 52T list (need 27) 5 hits to the 71 OPC list (need 10) Happy 2015 to Everyone! ================= Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 08:34:03 -0500 To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Any set killers out there? From: "Jimmy Parker" Looking for a 1979 Topps #424, Angels Team Card to finish off that set after discovering gremlin activity. If anyone has an extra lying around I'll return fire as quickly and awesomely as possible.

Thanks,
Jimmy "Catfish" Parker
...Save the gum for me!
================= Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 19:46:08 +0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Year end giveaway--some odds and ends From: Off from work this week, and the weather is miserable. So, I'm "playing" with my collection, trying to organize a few things. Came across a few odds and ends that I figured I'd put up for grabs. The usual two caveats: 1. I'll try to spread around the "wealth" (but don't be shy--feel free to ask for what you want/need) 2. Please include your address--makes the mailing easier. Here you go. 1. Three true OBC cards: 1970 Super #35 Jimmy Wynn (actually, not too shabby, but does have "Mark D." on the back, in Sharpie Two, yes two 1971 Topps Super #57 Sal Bando. 2.One of the worst 1960 cards I have ever had in my possession. A true GGS 10+ of #569 Camilo Pascual. I do believe at least 85% of the card is there 3. A small group of skeds-- 2008 San Jose Giants 2012 Baltimore Orioles 2008 NY Mets 2007 Carolina Mudcats 4. One, slightly miscut, Fleer BB Greats, #71 Earl Averill 5. 1967 Topps Pinups (Multiples on some) All have browned somewhat, most have minor tears 2 Bert Campaneris 3 Brooks Robinson 4 Tommie Agee 7 Frank Howard 8 Sam McDowell 13 Cleon Jones 14 Johnny Callison 15 Henry Aaron 16 Don Drysdale 17 Bobby Knoop 18 Tony Oliva 19 Frank Robinson 21 Al Kaline 22 Joe Pepitone 23 Harmon Killebrew 24 Leon Wagner 27 Joe Torre 28 Juan Marichal 29 Matty Alou 30 Felipe Alou 31 Ron Hunt 32 Willie McCovey Some winners will be eligible for a randomly selected 1984 Stuart Expos card--I have a half dozen from somewhere and I have no idea why or how I got them. Let me know, ================= Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:25:31 -0800 To: Jimmy Parker Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any set killers out there? From: Stamper I have one coming your way. John Stamper On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:34 AM, "'Jimmy Parker' catfish.obc@gmail.com [OBC-Ramblings]" wrote: > Looking for a 1979 Topps #424, Angels Team Card to finish off that set after discovering gremlin activity. If anyone has an extra lying around I'll return fire as quickly and awesomely as possible. > Thanks, > Jimmy "Catfish" Parker > ...Save the gum for me! ================= Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:47:29 -0800 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: My 2015 Collecting Goals From: Mike Mackie Hi everyone As the year winds down, I want to jump in and see how I did against my 2014 goals and set new ones for the coming year. 2014 goals Goal: Reduce my 1951-1993 Topps plus 1948-1955 Bowman runs from 1,025 to 800. Result: Made it to 830. Goal: Complete the 1962 Topps set. Result: Not quite - still need 3 Goal: Reduce my 1958 and 1963 Topps as well as 1954 Bowman wantlists to five. Result: Made all three. 1958 list stands at 5 while 1963 and 1954 sets are both at 2. Goal: Complete the 1960 Fleer (1-79) and 1964 Topps Coins sets. Result: Completed both. Goal: Cut my 1950 Bowman wantlist from four to two. Result: Completed the set. Goal: Cut my 1955 Bowman wantlist in half, from 36. Result: Picked up 35 of 36, needing just #302 Malzone to complete the set. Goal: Reach double digits in 1952 Topps high numbers (currently at 6). Result: Only added 1, so not met. Goal: Increase RAOK activity. Result: This is one of those goals that I can look at and say I can always do better. 2015 goals Goal: Reduce my 1951-1993 Topps plus 1948-1955 Bowman runs from 830 to 625 Goal: Complete my 1954 and 1955 Bowman sets as well as 1962 Topps. 6 cards total needed. Goal: Complete my 1958 Topps set (5 left). This may be a stretch but achieveable. Goal: Reduce my 1963 Topps list from 2 to 1 (not expecting to get the Pete Rose rookie, but who knows...) Goal: Increase my 1951 Bowman "have" list to 200 (from 115) and my 1952 Bowman "have" list to 152(needing 100) from 103. Goal: Complete my 1973-74 Topps basketball set (need 32). Reduce my 1972-73 basketball set from about 80 to less than 5. Goal: Cut my 1953 Topps wantlist in half from 54 Goal: Reduce my 1939 Play Ball list from 22 to 15. Goal: Increase RAOK activity Happy New Year! Mike Mackie ================= To: Mike Mackie , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 00:02:48 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] My 2015 Collecting Goals From: richard dingman Cross off one part goal, I have the 1955 Bowman Malzone heading your way! Richard Dingman To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: OBC-Ramblings-noreply@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 20:47:29 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My 2015 Collecting Goals Hi everyone As the year winds down, I want to jump in and see how I did against my 2014goals and set new ones for the coming year. 2014 goalsGoal: Reduce my 1951-1993 Topps plus 1948-1955 Bowman runs from 1,025 to 800. Result: Made it to 830. Goal: Complete the 1962 Topps set. Result: Not quite - still need 3Goal: Reduce my 1958 and 1963 Topps aswell as 1954 Bowman wantlists to five. Result: Made all three. 1958 list stands at 5 while 1963 and 1954 sets are both at 2.Goal: Complete the 1960Fleer (1-79) and 1964 Topps Coins sets. Result: Completed both.Goal: Cut my 1950 Bowman wantlist from four to two. Result: Completed the set.Goal: Cut my 1955 Bowman wantlist in half, from 36. Result: Picked up 35 of36, needing just #302 Malzone to complete the set.Goal: Reach double digits in 1952 Topps high numbers (currently at 6). Result: Only added 1, so not met.Goal: Increase RAOK activity. Result: This is one of those goals that I can look at and say I can always do better. 2015 goalsGoal: Reduce my 1951-1993 Topps plus 1948-1955 Bowman runs from 830 to 625 Goal: Complete my 1954 and 1955 Bowman sets as well as 1962 Topps. 6 cards total needed.Goal: Complete my 1958 Topps set (5 left). This may be a stretch but achieveable.Goal: Reduce my 1963 Topps list from 2 to 1 (not expecting to get the Pete Rose rookie, but who knows...)Goal: Increase my 1951 Bowman "have" list to 200 (from 115) and my 1952 Bowman "have" list to 152(needing 100) from 103. Goal: Complete my 1973-74 Topps basketball set (need 32). Reduce my 1972-73 basketball set from about 80 to less than 5.Goal: Cut my 1953 Topps wantlist in half from 54Goal: Reduce my 1939 Play Ball list from 22 to 15.Goal: Increase RAOK activity Happy New Year! Mike Mackie ================= Date: 30 Dec 2014 22:09:11 -0800 To: Subject: 2015 COLLECTING GOALS From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= Date: 31 Dec 2014 04:02:20 -0800 To: Subject: 2015 Collecting Goals From: mfmroz@prodigy.net ================= To: "obc" Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 07:27:45 -0600 Subject: need only 2- for 72' Topps football "low #'d series From: "ken goetsch" Down to only 2-cards needed for Topps football low numbered series cards,,,,,,,,,any 170[Butkus]],225[Tarkenton]..........any condition. Thanks in advance for anytime spent looking for me. Ken Goetsch 16 Parkview Lane Watertown, Wi. 53094 ================= To: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 07:50:41 -0800 Subject: Re: 2015 COLLECTING GOALS From: "George Vrechek" Mac, Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this. I'm not sure that we will memorize everyone else's collecting goals, but it does serve to induce me to set goals and get out RAOKs and that has been helpful. In 2014 I wanted to pick up 371 cards (other than hockey) I needed, and I picked up 377. I got off to a good early start in the year, but then only attended three shows all year and the progress slowed. My goal for 2015 is to obtain 283 cards over some 40 sets plus 209 hockey cards (a separate category) to cut my current hockey wantlists in half. I wrote a series of articles for SCD about vintage card sport set collecting goals and determined that I could possibly accumulate 53,500 vintage sports cards. I figured that if I continued on the pace I'm setting for 2015, that I will achieve my goal by age 99. Mmm, perhaps I need to pick up the pace. George Vrechek ================= Date: 31 Dec 2014 08:42:00 -0800 To: Subject: Long shot - Reds posters? From: directorth@aol.com ================= Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:12:08 +0000 (UTC) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: 2015 Collecting Goals From: Jerry Coker I've never done this before but I think I need to since I'm all over the place with my collecting ... and the time seems ripe. I'm just not sure I'm being realistic :-) Anyway ... here goes: 1)Increase my outgoings via RAOK and Waiver Wires! 2)Concentrate on my 1950=E2=99sand 1960=E2=99s sets 3)Knock off the remainder of commons for my 57Tset 4)Pickup #20 Hank Aaron card for my 57T set 5)Knock off the remainder of commons for my 62Tset including a few high #=E2=99s 6)Pickup one T206 Larry Doyle for my NY Giantssubset 7)Pickup a T205 Bugs Raymond for my NY Giantssubset 8)Pickup one 52T Brave and one 52T Giant for myBraves/Giants 52T subset 9)Pickup ten hits for my 53B color set 10) Knockoff the remainder of commons for my 54T set 11) Pickupten hits for my 55B set 12) Knockoff the remainder of commons for my 56T set 13) Pickuptwo 66T high #=E2=99s and two 67T high #=E2=99s 14) Pickupten 55T All American Football cards 15) Pickupfive high #=E2=99s for my 72T FB set Happy New Year!! Jerry Coker ================= Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:54:38 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2015 Collecting Goals From: Larry Tipton I've never posted my goals either. I've been an OBC member from the beginning. I remember when my want list included only 1955 Bowman baseball and 1965 Topps baseball:) I remember going through my divorce back in 2003 I was VERY quiet for a few years. Well me ex got her beanie babies and I got my baseball cards. 2008-2011 everyone calling for me to expand my short and hardto hit list. Then I attended the National Convention in Baltimore in 2012.This was actually my third National as I attended in 1991 Anaheim and 1999in Atlanta. But in Baltimore I got to experience everything that OBC is about and everything OBC had become. After 2012 Baltimore I added all Topps football basketball and hockey sets, some Bowman and Fleer football and basketball sets, and numerous 50s 60s 70s non sports sets. But today MANY of these sets are completed and many of these sets are close to completion. My main interest now has shifted some. I am trying to complete "the monster" T206 in any condition, and I'm about 70% complete. So I want to keep knocking cards off that list. I also want to listen to good advice AND pull thetrigger when I see or am made aware of a good bargain especially on expensive HOF cards (should have pulled the trigger on that Cobb Mac). I also want to concentrate on the T205 Gold Bordered cards, I am collectingthese slabbed in SGC holders. I just love how they look and I'm about 70% complete on this set as well. I've got 20 or so "raw" cards that I need to submit for grading just waiting for the right SGC special. I am collecting a "master-set" 1935 Goudey 4-in-1 cards. There are 36 cardsin the set, but different front and puzzle back combinations bring the total to 144 I think including four Babe Ruths. Saw a good deal on my second Ruth a couple weeks ago on ebay PSA slabbed (buy it now) and now I have two of the four with both of the more difficult puzzle backs. Would like to knock some more off this want list too. Another goal is to not start any more sets, and finish as many sets as I can. Maybe give up on a few sets too. Some of my 60s and 70s non sports cardscan be completed cheap. I am a card or two away from several football sets, and closing in on many 50s and 60s Topps hockey sets. Anybody have any green Partridge Family cards? LOL! Final goal is to attend the National Convention in Chicago again this year.I want to stay an extra day or two. Maybe George V will give me another bike tour inside "The Loop", see games at Wrigley and a White Sox game too again. I want to hang out more with everyone at the show, and not be so driven to just knock cards off my list. Take some time to meet and visit with our OBC Certified Dealers. Happy New Year OBC! ================= To: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:37:51 -0800 Subject: 2015 Goals From: "George Vrechek" And I should have added that during 2014 I received about 400 cards from OBCers which is really incredible since my wantlist is rather obscure despite adding in more sets. Thanks for all the help gang. George Vrechek ================= To: tradingbases@yahoogroups.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 17:27:22 -0500 Subject: Wishing Everyone and Their Family an Happy and Healthy New Year From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, My Hope for the New Year for all is.. I hope what ever you are looking for you will find and find happiness in what ever you do. May 2015 be your best year ever Kevin Martens ================= Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:28:23 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2015 Goals and New Year wishes From: ChicoD1@aol.com My goals are a little different, as my year goes by the OBC calendar. As soon as the National ends, my year starts. I sort of count this as my "mid-point", even though its a month or so off. It's been quite a card year for me so far. I've made great headway on a lot of sets the past 2 years. I never used to post my top 10 or goals, but last year I started. All you guys should do it. I tend to look at those lists to see who is close, or if I can find one of those "top 10" to knock off a list. I get a kick out of trying to finish a line or a set on someone's list. So here is my midpoint. I'm on a good track, and I'm sure anything I don't get between now and July, I'll find in Chicago. It's been a very thankful year for me, as I have gotten to meet more OBCers than ever! I look forward to meeting even more in Chicago this year. This family of OBCers has seen me go through many life experiences since I started in 1992. We have shared up times and down times. The constant has been the camaraderie that we have shared over the years. The Washington National comes to mind. Kent said he wouldn't make it that year, which was disappointing. Then the SOB surprises me (with the help of Mac) at the ball game in the picnic area. These are the things I have great memories of. So with the New Year approaching, I hoist a glass to each of my friends in OBC and their families and toast "may each and every person get a Mantle in the coming year"! I'm pretty close on some of the goals, and have knocked a bunch off my top 10 (13). Red means its been reached, parenthesis is what I started the goal with, brackets is where I am now. Goals and Top 10 Lists Complete 52B- Mantle (101) 1959 T- < 100 (177) [113] 1961 T- < 250 (304) Jimi Thayer with 117 brings list to 187 needed 9/15/14 [163] 1962 T- < 125 (181) [156] 1963T- < 400 (422) [408] 1964T- < 300 (366) [339] 1964T Coins- Finish (18) [12] 1964T Giants- Finish (14) [2] 1965T- < 300 (366) 1966T- < 40 (44) [40] 1967T- < 85 (96) [94] Colt 45s- Finish (4)- Completed 12/14/14 (Hofstra Show) Brooklyn Dodgers- <70 + 2 Biggies (81) 55B Reese, 53B Reese (Mac Wubben Reached - James Moleta 12/15/14 OPC Mets- < 35- Reached Sportlots 11/25/14 70/71 Scratchoffs- < 6 (12) Reached Secret Santa Mark Talbot 12/25/14 Variations- 1 58 Yellow - 1958 Yellow Clemente - Reached Ebay 10/6/14 Work on 69 White Letter NY Rangers- <250 (341) Mets Sets- Organize and As Many As Possible 1960 F- <10 [14] Continue to Assault OBC Lists! Top 10 Wanted (OK so its 13) 1- 52B Mantle (101) 2- 1959T Spahn 40A- (1931 Not Obsured) 3- 1962 Hodges Baseball Bucks - Dave Levin GFG 11/7/14 4- 1965 OPC Stengel (187) - Dave Levin GFG 11/7/14 5- 1967 OPC Jones (165)- Reached Sportlots 11/25/14 6- 1953B Color Reese (33) Mac Wubben 9/29/14- Need 1 for Bowman Set 7- 1955B Reese (37)- Reached Ebay 9/18/14 $3! 8- 1965T FB Namath (122) 9- 1972T FB Namath IA (343) - Ebay $25 10- 1968 OPC Ryan (177) 11- 1967T Seaver (581) 12- 1951 Red Back Roe (16) - Hofstra Show 10/25/14 13- 1958 Yellow Clemente - Reached Ebay 10/6/14 ($97.68) Sal Domino OBC - 1992 ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 23:49:49 +0000 Subject: Collecting Goals for 2015 From: Jo Meyer and John Gray My friends, I have enjoyed reading the 2014 successes and 2015 goals posted by others -- I thought I would get in on the fun! 2015 Collecting Goals: Trim my vintage Topps run by 15 cards (from 60 to 45) Trim my vintage Bowman run by 18 cards (from 78 to 60) Get five cards from my Top Ten Most Wanted List Get 12 more T205s (from 33 to 45) Get one of the four Fatima team cards I need Get 12 of the 34 1941 Double Plays Finish the 48 Bowman set (need Musial) Get 100+ OPC hits from 65-75 Finish two vintage Kellogg=92s sets Send 100+ OBC RAOK Happy New Year everyone! Be happy,JSGJohn Scott Gray=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: 31 Dec 2014 20:00:52 -0800 To: Subject: THIS!!! This is progress! From: uthminsta@hotmail.com ================= To: uthminsta@hotmail.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 23:39:21 -0500 Subject: =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtPQkMtUmFtYmxpbmdzXSBUSElTISEhIFRoaXMgaXMgcHJvZ3Jlc3Mh?From: "John" Content-Disposition: inline