================= Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:53:47 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: Wantlist Rambling I have really enjoyed the various ramblings over the last couple of months.From the rookie rambles to the great times that were had at the National highlighting OBC generosity the reads have been interesting, humorous, and yes, sometimes sobering. I have been making a couple of transitions with respects to collecting myself that has had me looking at my collection. The first is the mobilization of technology. With the advent of the tablet, smart phones, etc., I have found myself challenged trying to operate with my old resources (i.e., Excel,Access, and Word) in this new paradigm. We have desktop computer and a couple of mobile devices. The desktop computer is always at a premium. Betweenmy wife's photography business, my daughter's video editing and my other daughter's general interest in the web, my time at a desktop at home is rare. I ended up transitioning my web site to Google sites (https://sites.google.com/site/oldbaseballobc/), and can access my wantlist site with reasonable visibility. I have had to consolidate my desktop applications down to a simple Excel document. It appears to be working out pretty well. Case in point, I started this message on my desktop, and finished up on my phone. Now on to the second challenge. As my daughters are getting older, the competition for resources increases - time, space and money. I have been trying to figure out the best way to right size my collection. I have donated a large portion of my collection (mainly UV). I have swappedsome with my OBC brethren. I have resolved myself to a 1,000 card checklist. It poses a challenge due to my HOF and type collections. My sets now mainly consist of non-sport tobacco so I have added Diamond Stars (for the third time) and 55 Red Man. I will assess additional sets as I go. I really want to focus on vintage sets that won't break the bank. I may addmore in the future, but not more than 2-3 sets. I have it in my mind for my 1,000 card want list to take me through my next35 years of collecting. Well, thanks for listening. I think this is the most verbose I been in my nearly 13 years in OBC. Erik Greenwood ================= Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 01:50:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: I am lucky An old friend called me tonight and it made me realize how lucky I am. We hung out in our young and much wilder years. She has experienced so much tragedy and sadness in her life. It was kind of depressing to hear her tale but it made me realize that my life is good - very good.. She did sound as though she did overcome most of what had happened to her. I had not talked toher since she was 20 - about 33 years. She was younger than most of us butwe protected her like a little sister. I have a fantastic family here in El Paso and another one in Pennsylvania. I am also blessed - I guess that is the word - to have so many friends in OBC. I really enjoy reading what you write and the stories that you tell. I feel that I know many of you and would like to meet and greet each and everyone of you. I also have a fantastic job and really enjoy it even though this is my 27th year of teaching. Thank you for all the great things that this group provides. Richard Labs ================= To: "vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com" , oct Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:55:41 +0000 From: John Scott Gray Subject: New Address My friends,Jo and I have found a new home to fill with cardboard.... could the powers that be please change my address to the following (I changed theOBC directory myself):6717 Little Hemlock St.Canadian Lakes, MI 49346Be happy,JSGJohn Scott Gray ================= Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 19:51:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "ecexpress1" Subject: On waivers Finally getting some envelopes together and while doing so found a few random cards that could use a new home: 75 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball: 10 11 39-46 Exhibits: Dixie Walker 47-66 Exhibits: John Sain Please claim one or all! Thanks! ================= To: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 19:09:51 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: *dealer scum alert* nice '50 bowman Campy I accidentally won 2 of these... this one is nice, and the 2nd place (shill) bidder didn't want it, so, if anyone wants this, I'll "let it go" for $25, free shipping, and a long look at your want list :) Here is the auction link... it is just as nice as it looks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/120969732213?ssPageNameSTRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksidp3984.m1439.l2649 Just to cover my tracks :) anyone need a '52 topps #69 or '53 topps #89? ================= Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:41:11 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: Oddball Dodgers Available Can anybody use these? 1971 Ticketron Dodgers Schedules (post card size): Davis (x3) Russell (X2) Let me know, appreciate including your address. Bill Malson ================= Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:20:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: I am Just back from Vacation Hi all, I just got back from a 11 day trip. I am a few days behind on emails and Thank You to all the Great people in the groups I am in I am 15 packages deep. (I was 22 when the day started) So, please be patient with me..and thank you to all that sent me cards. Cards are the best vacation of all..relaxing.. Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 09:56:28 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Dating Exhibit Cards Was showing this to someone at the National. Thought it might be of interest to the group http://keymancollectibles.com/exhibitdatechart.htm ================= Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:55:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Thought I'd share this Hi guys, As you are all aware, the beginning of August brought bad news for me on the job front. Still nothing new there, but a couple of weeks ago, better news came to us: my "baby" girl (now 23 - when did that happen??) and her boyfriend gave Cherie & I some good news - come March, we will be first-time grandparents! I don't know how this is possible, since I don't feel older than 25 or so, but I'm assured it's true. Now to start planning the 2013 birth-year set for my grandson or granddaughter :-) ================= Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 19:34:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Michael" Subject: September Waiver Wire Hello OBC Members, I slacked last month and didn't post a waiver wire. Trying to get back in the swing of things, so here it is. If you want any, just send your address. Mike Dillon Topps Baseball 64: 41 158 188 362 66: 62 145 164 334 67: 38 47 54 58 74 94 95 98 113 114 123 149 187 189 192 208211 259 260 263 273 279 281 282 286 318 387 68: 12 14 44 51 (2) 53 64 79 108 311 69: 44 51 79 93 109 70: 18(2) 29 35 38 89 111 132 287 316(2) 358 390 424 71: 9 17 29(2) 34 65 69(2) 71 80 110 120 336 73: 81 214 74: 235 289 348 75: 101 162 282 353 362 467 496 632 650 76: 7 12 13 22 24 28 37 51 62 75 76 84 85 96 97 105 106(2)108(2) 112 121 139 148 155 159 177 181 217 229 236(2) 248 249 251 252 264 268 269 274 276 277(2) 282 287 289 291(2) 297 309 312 313(3) 319 322 327(2) 336 362 363 364 368(2) 375 381 382 390 391(2) 395 398 402 413 423 425 427 434 437 439(2) 457 466 485 488 511 512 515 519(2) 548 551 552 558 573 574 576 577584 602 618 621 625 77: 15 22 41 73 96 143 209 212 255 258 262 312 324 367 384 389 393 415 465 499 547 550 609 612 643 658 659 78: 7 19 29 32 42(2) 53 68 206 241 249 252 281 315(2) 327 334 361 409 449 461 481(2) 493(2) 496 585 600 612 619(2) 622 626640 653 675 711 79: 7 23 50 105 227 247 315 320 372 405 409 428 450 495 529 605 633 636 689 80: 8 30 46 76(2) 94 95 151 155 184 213 331(4) 335 376 481 628 ================= To: , , Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:40:58 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1955 Bowman Harvey "Kueen" cards available I have 2 of the 1955 Bowman Harvey "Kueen" error cards available. One is EXMT-ish condition on the front but way off-center back. The other is VG-ish with hairline crease down the middle of the card. http://www.sportscardfun.com/trader/taylor_schock.asp From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; octraders@yahoogroups.com; vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; Subject: 1988, 1989, and 1990 Score Factory sets available Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:34:11 -0400 I have 1 each of the 1988, 1989, and 1990 Score Factory baseball sets available. The 1988 is unsealed but complete and the 1989 and 1990 are both still sealed. If interested, let me know. All 3 will fit in a large, flat rate USPS http://www.sportscardfun.com/trader/taylor_schock.asp ================= To: , , Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:49:57 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1972 Fisk RC available I have a 1972 Fisk RC (#79) available. Slight pen writing on front. Scan included. If interested, let me know. http://www.sportscardfun.com/trader/taylor_schock.asp ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 01:32:01 -0400 (EDT) From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: Olympics I have been enjoying watching the Olympics again, thanks to the wonders of digital Anybody out there collecting Olympics cards, or maybe yours kids would likesome? I have a decent stack of track & field extra and happy to share, just send your snail mail address. Ed Pike ================= Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 09:29:24 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: OBC in Edinburgh Looking forward to meeting up with Bill Ashton for dinner in Edinburgh this evening. I believe Bill will be the 10th OBCer that I've met right here in Scotland. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, "OBC Ramblings" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:08:15 -0700 From: "wite3@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh I highly encourage meeting glenn in edinburgh...the pizza and brew pub he took me to was awesome. Add to that a fantastic host and city...one of my fav. Obc meeting places. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2012 16:29:54 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh Looking forward to meeting up with Bill Ashton for dinner in Edinburgh this evening. I believe Bill will be the 10th OBCer that I've met right here in Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= To: , , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:15:47 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh I will second the recommendation...we don't have Vegas anymore...maybe we should do Scotland. I hear Glenn was promising fine Scotch for everyone. To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:08:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh I highly encourage meeting glenn in edinburgh...the pizza and brew pub he took me to was awesome. Add to that a fantastic host and city...one of my fav. Obc meeting places. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2012 16:29:54 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh Looking forward to meeting up with Bill Ashton for dinner in Edinburgh thisevening. I believe Bill will be the 10th OBCer that I've met right here inScotland. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 13:40:21 -0700 (PDT) To: "wite3@aol.com" , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh I can do that!! Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:05:15 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: OBC meet in Edinburgh On the train heading back to Glasgow after a fantastic evening with Mr and Mrs Bill Ashton and in laws Bill and Joy. It was a typical obc meet....as if we've always known each other. We enjoyed a great meal and a few refreshments at the Cafe Royal, a great old watering hole. Not only did Bill beat me to the draw when the check arrived, he also floored me with an amazing birthday present....a 1933 Sport Kings Ty Cobb. My jaw damn near hit the table. What an incredible addition to the collection. Thanks to Bill & co. for a great evening, and for only the second old Cobb card to make its way into my binders! Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= To: "'Mac Wubben'" , , Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 18:37:55 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh Glenn was the first OBCer I ever met - in Glasgow! A fine Indian dinner and a "tour" of Scotland at the Pot Still! Can't beat it!! (Wouldn't recommend an early tee-time the next morning however) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mac Wubben Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:16 PM To: wite3@aol.com; glenncodere@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh I will second the recommendation...we don't have Vegas anymore...maybe we should do Scotland. I hear Glenn was promising fine Scotch for everyone. To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:08:15 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh I highly encourage meeting glenn in edinburgh...the pizza and brew pub he took me to was awesome. Add to that a fantastic host and city...one of my fav. Obc meeting places. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tue, Sep 4, 2012 16:29:54 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh Looking forward to meeting up with Bill Ashton for dinner in Edinburgh this evening. I believe Bill will be the 10th OBCer that I've met right here in Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:15:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Glenn Codere , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh Correction time!! After a recount, Bill is actually the 12th OBCer that I've met right here in Scotland. Full list: Terry Woods Ron Perry Howard Morgan Joshua Levine David Hornish Doug Smith George Hay Geno Wagner Mac Wubben Jeff Whitworth Matt Yudt Bill Ashton Have I missed anyone? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC in Edinburgh Looking forward to meeting up with Bill Ashton for dinner in Edinburgh thisevening. I believe Bill will be the 10th OBCer that I've met right here inScotland. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:23:37 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Set completed!! During our meeting this evening, Bill handed me a box containing cards thatI had bought over the past few months. Rather than mailing the box to me as usual, he hand delivered it. The box contained not only the aforementioned Cobb card, but also the last card needed for my 1962 Topps base set - the usual #594 Bob Uecker RC. There were also 2 short stacks of 1958 and 1959 Topps (plenty of dupes so I'll be looking at those lists over the next week or so) and three 1967 hi#s. I also finished off 3 UV sets - 2001 Topps Archives, 2011 Topps Heritage and 2012 Topps Heritage. The boxwas topped off by a load of UV Tigers cards. Sorting all this stuff and updating lists should keep me busy for the rest of the week! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 12:40:30 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I'm working on an SCD article about what has happened to the prices of vintage cards in the last 30 years. I've looked at price guides and computed returns given certain assumptions. For example, I came up with the following (somewhat surprising results) for what has happened to the prices of 1952 to 1959 Topps sets in NrMt (whatever that is) over the past 30 years. The following table shows annual returns for certain periods and the overall return (9.71%). According to the price guides (Beckett), everything happened between 1985 and 1989. If you have interest in this subject, have thoughts on card prices- particularly in the 1980s, and enjoy fun with numbers, please contact me. I'd like to bounce my observations and assumptions off you and get any further input. George Vrechek Annual return 1981-1985 -0.1% Annual return 1985-1989 59% Annual return 1989-1992 15% Annual return 1992-2001 -2% Annual return 2001-2012 7% Annualized return for 1981 to 2012 9.7% S&P Index return for same period 7.95% Inflation same period 3.25% ================= To: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:56:27 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Banzai Dear Rob, My winnings from the essay contest arrived some time ago. I worked my way down the other books on my "to be read" pile first - The Magnificent Medills, Calico Joe, Playing for Pizza, Death in the Haymarket, City of the Century, Don't Know Much about History, The Litigators, and then finally....Banzai Babe Ruth. It turns out, I had saved the best for last. That was really an enjoyable read. I picked it up Monday and finished it today. I could keep reading it tomorrow, if there were more. I've read numerous books and articles about Babe Ruth, my favorite player. You cast him in a favorable light. I enjoyed the stories about the guy with baseballs up his sleeve coming to Ruth's room and Babe interacting with the kids, signing everything they put in front of him. William Amos sitting on the bench was another nugget. I felt I was along for the ride as the team endured the banquets, speeches, cold weather, travels, food, and nuances of playing the Japanese. I didn't peek as to the team's road record on the trip and you didn't give it away either. My interest remained as I wondered if they had finished undefeated. The three games after Japan was another bonus. I'm helping teach a high school journalism class this semester and watch for punctuation and grammatical problems. Your book must have earned an A++ in that category. Great job. Now if I could just find one of those baseball cards of Ruth that the department store handed out. ================= To: Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:20:22 -0400 From: Subject: NFL Survivor Hi Everyone: Talking to Geno about a Survivor NFL contest if we would like to do one this year and he said to me go ahead, so if I remember the rules from last year. You can only pick a team once we had 10 strikes Anyone playing is asked to send a card pre 80 worth $10 or more Winner gets all the cards Second place finisher gets the first place person=E2=99s card. If you are interested in playing drop me a line and send your card to me along with your week 1 picks. I will get everyone=E2=99s pick=E2=99s to everyone by noon on Sunday. Please let me know. Nick Covello 105 W 1st Ave Runnemede, NJ 08078 ================= Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 10:19:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: FOOT folks Redford show this Sunday, September 9 Reminder there is a Redford show this Sunday. Please let us know if you will be attending, so I do not take off before you get there. Mike Rich ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:37:31 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I would venture to say that most OBCers not only do not buy nr-mt, but do not pay full book prices. When the first price guides came out in the late 70s and early 80s, I think prices were not adjusted as much for condition and also people were more likely to pay closer to full book than now. Just my memory, which is often faulty. I am also surprised at the price increase over the last 12 years. I did not think those sets had changed much for years. I wonder if the price change is reflected throughout the 1950s setsor is primarily driven by only 1 or 2 sets, ie, 1952 Topps high numbers driving the entire decade worth of price increases. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George and Susan Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 1:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I=E2=99m working on an SCD article about what has happened to the pricesof vintage cards in the last 30 years. I=E2=99ve looked at price guidesand computed returns given certain assumptions. For example, I came up with the following (somewhat surprising results) for what has happened to the prices of 1952 to 1959 Topps sets in NrMt (whatever that is) over the past 30 years. The following table shows annual returns for certain periods and the overall return (9.71%). According to the price guides (Beckett), everything happened between 1985 and 1989. If you have interest in this subject, have thoughts on card prices- particularly in the 1980s, and enjoy fun with numbers, please contact me. I=E2=99d like to bounce my observations and assumptions off yo u and get any further George Vrechek Annual return 1981-1985 -0.1% Annual return 1985-1989 59% Annual return 1989-1992 15% Annual return 1992-2001 -2% Annual return 2001-2012 7% Annualized return for 1981 to 2012 9.7% S&P Index return for same period 7.95% Inflation same period 3.25% < /p> ================= Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:10:06 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, vrechek@ameritech.net, From: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices As someone who still carries a 1996 Beckett guide to shows I would agree with Mike's surprise that prices have gone up over the past 12 years. I haven't really noticed it. Then again, I use the guide more for a checklist and to identify short-prints than I do for prices. Mike Mackie From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 6, 2012 5:38:10 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I would venture to say that most OBCers not only do not buy nr-mt, but do not pay full book prices. When the first price guides came out in the late 70sand early 80s, I think prices were not adjusted as much for condition and also people were more likely to pay closer to full book than now. Just my memory, which is often faulty. I am also surprised at the price increase over the last 12 years. I did not think those sets had changed much for years. I wonderif the price change is reflected throughout the 1950s sets or is primarily driven by only 1 or 2 sets, ie, 1952 Topps high numbers driving the entire decade worth of price increases.Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George and Susan Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 1:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I=E2=99m working on an SCD article about what has happened to the pricesof cards in the last 30 years. I=E2=99ve looked at price guides and computed given certain assumptions. For example, I came up with the following (somewhat surprising results) for what has happened to the prices of 1952 to 1959 Topps sets in NrMt (whatever that is) over the past 30 years. The following table shows annual returns for certain periods and the overall return (9.71%). According to the price guides (Beckett), everything happened between 1985 and If you have interest in this subject, have thoughts on card prices- particularly in the 1980s, and enjoy fun with numbers, please contact me. I=E2=99d like to bounce my observations and assumptions off yo u and get any further input. George Vrechek Annual return 1981-1985 -0.1% Annual return 1985-1989 59% Annual return 1989-1992 15% Annual return 1992-2001 -2% Annual return 2001-2012 7% Annualized return for 1981 to 2012 9.7% S&P Index return for same period 7.95% Inflation same period 3.25% < /p> ================= To: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:30:03 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I have a March 2003 Vintage Beckett (the monthly mag they put out specifically for Vintage cards) and a May 2012 Beckett Baseball monthly magazine and have noticed the non-change in BV for a bulk of these cards for years. Outside of some specific players such as the usual heavy hitters (Mantle, Clemente, etc), some specific RCs, and some other minor series adjustments, the "value" of the cards (factoring in inflation) has actually dropped in the past 10-20 years. For example, we see the following: Topps Set - 2003 Becket - 2012 Beckett 1952 - $65,000 - $65,000 1953 - $15,000 - $15,000 1954 - $8,000 - $8,000 1955 - $8,000 - $8,000 1956 - $8.000 - $8,000 1957 - $10,000 - $10,000 1958 - $6,000 - $6,000 1959 - $5,000 - $8,000 than the 1959 set it would have been easier to say there is no "nominal" dollar change. (Note that I think 1959 is a typo, considering that spot checking shows the only real changes are on the Mantles and Gibson RC. There is a small handful of others including a $1 increase on high numbers, but this would only come to about $300-$500 at best but nowhere near a $3K change). I know I still have some older Becketts lying around somewhere, but I suspect there isn't much price difference there either since the early to mid 90s. There are a number of reasons for this. As Mike pointed out, the condition factor in the early to mid 80s. But I think that was (at least, in part) CAUSED by other factors. Mostly the substantial increase in disposable incomeduring this time. But other factors also played a part, such as "money to me made" in cards, the maturing of the "card generation" of the '50s and '60s, the "nostalgia craze", etc. These and other factors not only fueled theprice increase in cards and the focus on condition, but at the time in other collectibles as well. Then came the faux-Midas or Fool's Gold era in the late 80s to early 90s. However unlike the earlier 80s people forgot to consider a big factor in theincreased value of cards during that time: scarcity. Once the supply/demand began to balance (perception met reality), and the "money" realized it couldn't make more money on something everyone had, the "money", and many people, left the hobby. Or at least for the newer cards. The "value" (in general) still held for the older cards up to a point, but as we can see from the above, even that began to drop off. If fact, for the past 20 years there is no "nominal" dollar change but an actual "real" dollar drop. The real question is: Is this a good or bad thing? I obviously have an opinion on this (as well as the "whys" of the drop, to what "real" extent, and the efforts to "prop up" the market), but enough rambling for now. To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: macknife13@prodigy.net Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:10:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices As someone who still carries a 1996 Beckett guide to shows I would agree with Mike's surprise that prices have gone up over the past 12 years. I haven't really noticed it. Then again, I use the guide more for a checklist and to identify short-prints than I do for prices. Mike Mackie From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 6, 2012 5:38:10 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I would venture to say that most OBCers not only do not buy nr-mt, but do not pay full book prices. When the first price guides came out in the late 70s and early 80s, I think prices were not adjusted as much for condition and also people were more likely to pay closer to full book than now. Just my memory, which is often faulty. I am also surprised at the price increase over the last 12 years. I did not think those sets had changed much for years. I wonder if the price change is reflected throughout the 1950s setsor is primarily driven by only 1 or 2 sets, ie, 1952 Topps high numbers driving the entire decade worth of price increases. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George and Susan Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 1:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I=92m working on an SCD article about what has happened to the prices of vintage cards in the last 30 years. I=92ve looked at price guides and computed returns given certain assumptions. For example, I came up with the following (somewhat surprising results) for what has happened to the prices of 1952 to 1959 Topps sets in NrMt (whatever that is) over the past 30 years. The following table shows annual returns for certain periods and the overall return (9.71%). According to the price guides (Beckett), everything happened between 1985 and 1989. If you have interest in this subject, have thoughts on card prices- particularly in the 1980s, and enjoy fun with numbers, please contact me. I=92d like to bounce my observations and assumptions off yo u and get any further input. George Vrechek Annual return 1981-1985 -0.1% Annual return 1985-1989 59% Annual return 1989-1992 15% Annual return 1992-2001 -2% Annual return 2001-2012 7% Annualized return for 1981 to 2012 9.7% S&P Index return for same period 7.95% Inflation same period 3.25% ================= To: Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 17:32:45 -0400 From: Subject: Re: NFL Survivor Hi Everyone Thought I would send it out again to see if we have any interest, so far wehave only 2 playing. Please let me know. Nick Covello From: nickcov@snip.net Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:20 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: NFL Survivor Hi Everyone: Talking to Geno about a Survivor NFL contest if we would like to do one this year and he said to me go ahead, so if I remember the rules from last year. You can only pick a team once we had 10 strikes Anyone playing is asked to send a card pre 80 worth $10 or more Winner gets all the cards Second place finisher gets the first place person=E2=99s card. If you are interested in playing drop me a line and send your card to me along with your week 1 picks. I will get everyone=E2=99s pick=E2=99s to everyone by noon on Sunday. Please let me know. Nick Covello 105 W 1st Ave Runnemede, NJ 08078 ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:33:49 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Man's Best Friend It's a duty most of us had to deal with before. It's a lot tougher than it sounds. It's as heart wrenching as just about anything I have had to do, in fact. Tomorrow morning we are putting down our beloved dog. Sammie has been with us nearly 11 years. He's hurting with a very quick onset of cancerous tumors and cannot breathevery I tear up thinking about me driving him in the morning to his "appointment", because he has some good hours and some bad. Mostly bad in the past couple He was very cheerful in the past hour as we drove to McDonald's to buy him a It's a 16 mile round trip to spend that $1.08 but it'll be a priceless memory for us as we lose our best buddy tomorrow. I have to type this now, because I doubt I will be able to tomorrow. I'll share a picture, feel free to share pics of your pals. Sorry to go so far off topic from baseball cards. ================= To: familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 01:43:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] Brian, I am so sorry for your loss...I know it can be difficult (been through it once already) but I will share our picture... Our doggie Zoe...rescued from a shelter...probably abused the first two years of her life. She is an incredibly smart Beagle/Jack Russell mix. She does not like people (other than Tiffany, myself, and my in-laws) but has been making small strides in tolerating them. She is soooo sweet to Tiffany and I and brings us a lot of joy. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 10:35 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Brian Lindholme included below] It=92s a duty most of us had to deal with before. It=92s a lot tougher than it sounds. It=92s as heart wrenching as just about anything I have had to do, in fact. Tomorrow morning we are putting down our beloved dog. Sammie has been with us nearly 11 years. He=92s hurting with a very quick onset of cancerous tumors and cannot breathe very well. I tear up thinking about me driving him in the morning to his =93appointment=94, because he has some good hours and some bad. Mostly bad in the past couple weeks. He was very cheerful in the past hour as we drove to McDonald=92s to buyhim a softserve. It=92s a 16 mile round trip to spend that $1.08 but it=92ll be a priceless memory for us as we lose our best buddy tomorrow. I have to type this now, because I doubt I will be able to tomorrow. I=92ll share a picture, feel free to share pics of your pals. Sorry to go so far off topic from baseball cards=85 Attachment(s) from Brian Lindholme 1 of 1 Photo(s) sammy 002.jpg ================= Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 05:54:52 +0000 (UTC) To: Joshua , obc-ramblings From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] thanks for your thoughts Josh.
Zoe is awesome!
OBC Forever
Brian

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================= Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 14:25:25 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Tiger cards Hi all ..and the Foot group I have about 100 Shinny Tiger cards..let me know if any of you would like them..no pay back needed, just want to help out fellow Tiger Fans Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:37:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Brian Lindholme From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] Brian, I am so sorry for your loss of Sammie. We recently had to put down our English Mastiff, Kalie Mae. Like Sammie,our best friendhad cancerand her last week alive was agonizing as we tried to decide when we should take her in. I very sad when I think about what you and your family are going through today, thoughts and prayers are with you. The day Kalie Mae died theVet at the Cancer Center gave us a card with the following that I would like to pass on you and yours. Rainbow Bridge (Author unknown) Just this side of heaven is a place called Rainbow Bridge. When an animal dies that has been especially close to someone here on earth, that pet goes to Rainbow Bridge. There are meadows and hills for all our special friends so they can run andplay There is plenty of food, water, and sunshine, and our friends are warm and All the animals who have been ill and old are restored to health and vigor, those who were hurt or maimed are made whole again, just as we remember them our dreams of days and times gone by. The animals are happy and content=E2=A6except for one thing, they each miss very special to them who had to be left behind. They all run and play together, but the day comes when one of them suddenly stops and looks into the distance. His bright eyes are intent and his eagerbody begins to quiver. Suddenly he begins to run from the group flying over the green grass, his legs carrying him faster and faster. You have been spotted, and when you and your special friend finally meet again, you cling together in joyous reunion, never to be parted again. The happy kisses rain on your face, your hands caress the beloved head and you look once more into the trusting eyes of your pet, so long gone from your life but never absent from your heart. Then you cross the Rainbow Bridge together=E2=A6 As per your suggestion I have attached a pic of me and our "Gentle Giant"! "we keep what we give away!" From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sat, September 8, 2012 1:35:35 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Brian Lindholme included below] It=E2=99s a duty most of us had to deal with before. It=E2=99s a lot tougher than it sounds. It=E2=99s as heart wrenching as just about anything I have had to do, infact. Tomorrow morning we are putting down our beloved dog. Sammie has been with us nearly 11 years. He=E2=99s hurting with a very quick onset of cancerous tumors and cannotbreathe I tear up thinking about me driving him in the morning to his =E2=9Cappointment=E2=9D, because he has some good hours and some bad. Mostly bad in the past couple He was very cheerful in the past hour as we drove to McDonald=E2=99s to buy him a It=E2=99s a 16 mile round trip to spend that $1.08 but it=E2=99ll be a priceless memory for us as we lose our best buddy tomorrow. I have to type this now, because I doubt I will be able to tomorrow. I=E2=99ll share a picture, feel free to share pics of your pals. Sorry to go so far off topic from baseball cards=E2=A6 ================= Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 08:21:21 -0700 (PDT) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Great B-day Yesterdaywe celebrated my 66th year on planet earth. As I suspected my wife"surprised" mewith 5, count`em,fiveautographed 58T Tigercards cuts that list in half. The remaining five are of players who are now deceased which will make them more difficult to obtain. FOOTnote: I am fairly certain that I will be attending the Redford Card Show tomorrow. Myeta will be dependent on which circuitousroute I take. Anyone planning to attend?"we keep what we give away!" ================= To: originaleek1@att.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:06:56 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great B-day - Redford I'll be at the Redford show, at least for the earlier part of the day. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: OBCRamblings Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 11:21 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Great B-day Yesterday we celebrated my 66th year on planet earth. As I suspected my wife "surprised" me with 5, count `em, five autographed 58T Tiger cards which cuts that list in half. The remaining five are of players who are now deceased which will make them more difficult to obtain. FOOTnote: I am fairly certain that I will be attending the Redford Card Show tomorrow. My eta will be dependent on which circuitous route I take. Anyone else planning to attend? "we keep what we give away!" ================= To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:02:31 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices george and all, i would like to be included in further conversation on this subject, as someone who likes numbers and charts and following the trend in vintage card values. richard d To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: taylor_schock@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 10:30:03 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I have a March 2003 Vintage Beckett (the monthly mag they put out specifically for Vintage cards) and a May 2012 Beckett Baseball monthly magazine andhave noticed the non-change in BV for a bulk of these cards for years. Outside of some specific players such as the usual heavy hitters (Mantle, Clemente, etc), some specific RCs, and some other minor series adjustments, the"value" of the cards (factoring in inflation) has actually dropped in the past 10-20 years. For example, we see the following: Topps Set - 2003 Becket - 2012 Beckett 1952 - $65,000 - $65,000 1953 - $15,000 - $15,000 1954 - $8,000 - $8,000 1955 - $8,000 - $8,000 1956 - $8.000 - $8,000 1957 - $10,000 - $10,000 1958 - $6,000 - $6,000 1959 - $5,000 - $8,000 Other than the 1959 set it would have been easier to say there is no "nominal" dollar change. (Note that I think 1959 is a typo, considering that spotchecking shows the only real changes are on the Mantles and Gibson RC. There is a small handful of others including a $1 increase on high numbers, but this would only come to about $300-$500 at best but nowhere near a $3K change). I know I still have some older Becketts lying around somewhere, but I suspect there isn't much price difference there either since the early tomid There are a number of reasons for this. As Mike pointed out, the condition factor in the early to mid 80s. But I think that was (at least, in part) CAUSED by other factors. Mostly the substantial increase in disposable incomeduring this time. But other factors also played a part, such as "money to me made" in cards, the maturing of the "card generation" of the '50s and '60s, the "nostalgia craze", etc. These and other factors not only fueled theprice increase in cards and the focus on condition, but at the time in other collectibles as well. Then came the faux-Midas or Fool's Gold era in the late 80s to early 90s. However unlike the earlier 80s people forgot to consider a big factor in theincreased value of cards during that time: scarcity. Once the supply/demand began to balance (perception met reality), and the "money" realized it couldn't make more money on something everyone had, the "money", and many people, left the hobby. Or at least for the newer cards. The "value" (in general) still held for the older cards up to a point, but as we can see from the above, even that began to drop off. If fact, for the past 20 years there is no "nominal" dollar change but an actual "real" dollar drop. The real question is: Is this a good or bad thing? I obviously have an opinion on this (as well as the "whys" of the drop, to what "real" extent, and the efforts to "prop up" the market), but enough rambling for now. To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: macknife13@prodigy.net Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:10:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices As someone who still carries a 1996 Beckett guide to shows I would agree with Mike's surprise that prices have gone up over the past 12 years. I haven't really noticed it. Then again, I use the guide more for a checklist and to identify short-prints than I do for prices. Mike Mackie From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: vrechek@ameritech.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, September 6, 2012 5:38:10 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I would venture to say that most OBCers not only do not buy nr-mt, but do not pay full book prices. When the first price guides came out in the late 70s and early 80s, I think prices were not adjusted as much for condition and also people were more likely to pay closer to full book than now. Just my memory, which is often faulty. I am also surprised at the price increase over the last 12 years. I did not think those sets had changed much for years. I wonder if the price change is reflected throughout the 1950s setsor is primarily driven by only 1 or 2 sets, ie, 1952 Topps high numbers driving the entire decade worth of price increases. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: George and Susan Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Sep 5, 2012 1:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Looking for OBC input on Card Prices I=92m working on an SCD article about what has happened to the prices of vintage cards in the last 30 years. I=92ve looked at price guides and computed returns given certain assumptions. For example, I came up with the following (somewhat surprising results) for what has happened to the prices of 1952 to 1959 Topps sets in NrMt (whatever that is) over the past 30 years. The following table shows annual returns for certain periods and the overall return (9.71%). According to the price guides (Beckett), everything happened between 1985 and 1989. If you have interest in this subject, have thoughts on card prices- particularly in the 1980s, and enjoy fun with numbers, please contact me. I=92d like to bounce my observations and assumptions off yo u and get any further input. George Vrechek Annual return 1981-1985 -0.1% Annual return 1985-1989 59% Annual return 1989-1992 15% Annual return 1992-2001 -2% Annual return 2001-2012 7% Annualized return for 1981 to 2012 9.7% S&P Index return for same period 7.95% Inflation same period 3.25% < /p> ================= Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 10:33:50 -0700 (PDT) To: OBCRamblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great B-day I once had a great b-day in a hotel in Spain. We got ice and a whole case of beer in that sucker!!! ps All the best, EEK!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: EEK To: OBCRamblings Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 4:21 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Great B-day Yesterdaywe celebrated my 66th year on planet earth. As I suspected my wife"surprised" mewith 5, count`em,fiveautographed 58T Tiger cards which cuts that list in half. The remaining five are of players who are now deceased which will make them more difficult to obtain. FOOTnote: I am fairly certain that I will be attending the Redford Card Show tomorrow. Myeta will be dependent on which circuitousroute I take. Anyone else planning to attend?"we keep what we give ================= Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:28:42 -0400 To: Brian Lindholme , OBC Ramblings From: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] My thoughts and prayers to you and your family. Losing my Golden Retriever who was 15 in the spring was heart wrenching. He was a better person than most people - if you know what i mean. Truly mans best friend! Take care On 9/8/12, Brian Lindholme wrote: > It's a duty most of us had to deal with before. > It's a lot tougher than it sounds. > It's as heart wrenching as just about anything I have had to do, in fact. > Tomorrow morning we are putting down our beloved dog. > Sammie has been with us nearly 11 years. > He's hurting with a very quick onset of cancerous tumors and cannot breathe > very well. > I tear up thinking about me driving him in the morning to his "appointment", > because he has some good hours and some bad. Mostly bad in the past couple > weeks. > He was very cheerful in the past hour as we drove to McDonald's to buy him a > softserve. > It's a 16 mile round trip to spend that $1.08 but it'll be a priceless > memory for us as we lose our best buddy tomorrow. > I have to type this now, because I doubt I will be able to tomorrow. > I'll share a picture, feel free to share pics of your pals. > Sorry to go so far off topic from baseball cards. Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:44:59 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: SoCal Pizza, anyone? Fellas -- Ed Watts and I are meeting for a pizza, beer, and Monday Night Football in Carlsbad tomorrow night. If anybody can make it down the 5, let us know! Take Care, ================= Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SoCal Pizza, anyone? I live less than a mile from I-5 would love to make it but it's another 1499 miles once I get on it. From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2012 7:44 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SoCal Pizza, anyone? Fellas -- Ed Watts and I are meeting for a pizza, beer, and Monday Night Football in Carlsbad tomorrow night. If anybody can make it down the 5, let us know! Take Care, ================= Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 13:00:32 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Rumley-Wells Subject: Re: Man's Best Friend Hi, Brian. Like many other OBCers, I'm with you in this grief. My favorite dog, who came along at a crucial time for our family after a tragedy, was hit by a car. We rushed him to the vet, but were unable to save him, and eventually had to let him go. I still get emotional when I think about him. I'm very sorry you have to go through this. It's a mercy that you got to say "goodbye," and the picture will be a treasure. Some things are worth far more than money. Blessings and God's comfort to you, Family Toad. Mike R-W ================= Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 12:06:53 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: my grandsons first card show and a request at the end decided to attend one of the local cardshows this morning. My 8 year oldgrandson Rocky, has been spending a bunch of time with me on the weekends lately ( a good thing). so I asked him if he would like to go with me orhang out with his aunt and cousin for the morning. He chose to go with me. We got going around 8am and after filling up and getting breakfast headed out for the 45 minute drive to redford. I gave Rocky a quick overveiw on what to expect, a lot of tables with a lot of cards on them with a lot of grown men standing around the tables looking and talking about cards. met Earl Kilbourne for the first time and met up with Mike Rich at OBC freindly dealer Mike Sandles table, introduced Rocky and sat down to proceed to looking. I wasn't sure what to expect with an 8 year old so had him looking with me, he was kinda into it but i could tell it mite be a short show. then the guy working with Mike Sandles came up with a 1600 ct box of oddball cards he thought Rocky mite like, all in hard cases so it was perfect.for Rocky....and what do youknow, he started digging just like he had been doing it all of his life...short as that may be. I gave him some pointers such as how to place the cards that he wanted to look over further seperate, and how to keep the cards he had looked at seperate from the ones he hadnt, but other than that, he was a pro in training. Rocky ended up with 10 cards that he wanted to buy, pretty cool cards. The 1954 world of wheels set. at least these are vintage! my request is this, if anyone has any of these that they aren't using I would love to try and trade for them. I have no clue as to what these are worth but will try and make it worthwhile. A huge thanks to Mike Rich for another 74 topps nationals variation, even though he didn't know I was coming he still pulled one for me. And also, for letting me take the off condition box that Mike Sandles had waiting forhim. some very cool cards in their. I will be offering up some of these in the next week or so. thanks for letting me Ramble. It was a very nice, albeit short show, my grandson had a blast and is looking forward to the redford show next month. hoping maybe a card collector in training. very nice seeing Mike Rich again, and meeting EEK. GO LIONS! John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:34:58 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken" Subject: 77 Topps Cloth Sticker Question Thanks to Ant for a starter lot of these at the National I'm now working onthis set. I'm looking at buying a few unopen packs off of Ebay. Does anyone remember how many cards are in a pack? ================= Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:13:12 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Redford show report Today there was the local Redford show featuring OBC friendly dealer Mike Sandles. Other FOOT attendees were Earl Kilborne and John Dahms. Mike had a box of cards for OBC, which John ended up with, for his grandson, who wasin tow, to go through, and pulled out some miscuts for me. In addition, Mike had a grouping of Coke caps, he had set aside for me. I actually needed some of these, as some were the much tougher lift tab versions. All 1966Browns or All-Stars. I cannot remember the last time I got a gathering ofCoke caps. In addition to a hit to my upgrade list (first time I changed the effective date of that list since February), I was able to start another new set: 1974 TCMA 1929-31 Philadalphia Athletics. A set of 29, and I got 24 of them, so it goes directly to my 5 and under set list. For those interested, the balance of the 2012 Redford show calendar is the first Sunday of each month, starting October 7. At presetn I expect to make the October 7 show, but the November and December shows make a sandwich of 2 weeks before and 2 weeks after the Chicago show that I think FOOT plansto invade in force this year. Seeing a pair of OBCers, hits to my fav sets and starting a new set. Excellent day at the show. Mike Rich ================= Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:32:38 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Oddity I never noticed before There are plenty of cards showing a player in 1 uniform, but stating their new team name on the card. Today, Mike Sandles pointed out 1954 Topps BB #19 Johnny Lipon to me. Actually it says Johnny on the front and John on the back. The oddity however, is that the front shows Johnny as an Oriole, while wearing a Red Sox hat. The back lists him as a Chicago White Sox. Ihad not noticed this before and do not recall ever seeing 3 team references on a single card. Mike Rich ================= To: Mike Rich , OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:34:06 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Oddity I never noticed before One of my favorite oddity cards. Besides the 3 team reference, the front lists him as a third baseman and the back has him as a shortstop. And just after this card was released Lipon was released as well.....by theCincinnati Reds (on April 29, 1954). To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 00:32:38 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Oddity I never noticed before There are plenty of cards showing a player in 1 uniform, but stating their new team name on the card. Today, Mike Sandles pointed out 1954 Topps BB #19 Johnny Lipon to me. Actually it says Johnny on the front and John on the back. The oddity however, is that the front shows Johnny as an Oriole, while wearing a Red Sox hat. The back lists him as a Chicago White Sox. I had not noticed this before and do not recall ever seeing 3 team references on a single card. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:44:37 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: mid to late 70's topps baseball waiver wire hello all, recently went to a local card show where OBC freindly dealer Mike Sandles always seems to have a box of off condition cards to make available to my groups. if you are condition sensitive and are still interested please email me and I will gladly let you know the condition. otherwise please include your address with your request. 79 topps -- 4(hunter), 10(gossage), 24(molitor) 78--173(yount) 200(jackson) 350(garvey) 77--28(fryman) 74 95 128 134 135 168 275 320 375 395 565 524 562 571 605 76--3 10(brock) 73 196 198 234 275 349 385 477 486 500 519 540 596 76 traded--44 532 75--10 45 58 64 73 88 98 102 115 126 143 152 154 158 162 169 186 214 234 236 253 257 262 276 309 336 338 342 347 349 365 417 427 440 441 460 486 511520 521 523 534 547 549 553 574 590 598 619 638 641 642 74--11 16 27 28 43 56 78 81 92 114 117 127 133 134 137 145 150 156 170 198 199 208 209 210 216 234 238 242 261 265 274 278 284289 290 303b 308 311 314 317 323 326 331 333 335 342 347 348 352 354 356 358 378 380 393 401 407 430 445 446 457 464 466 475 478 479 480 485 487 500 509 517 531 533 535555 559 565 588 594 595 597 599 600 602 607 620 623 625 658 74 traded--23 42 b43 62 63 73 151 165 175 182 186 249 262 269 270 319 348 373 428 454 485 486 516 534 618 630 648 629 73 topps--14 25 32 34 47 56 75 78 79 84 87 109 114 149 150 164 166 183 188 197 246 262 268 314 319 326 333 335 357 371 377 378 379 384 389 402 420 444 449 473 491 493 498 537 529 553 please let me know and don't be shy John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 02:11:06 +0000 (UTC) To: Joshua , obc-ramblings , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] Guys, these posts really helped. As I suspected, yesterday sucked bad. Today isn't much better yet. Reading through these replies and seeing your wonderful pets comforted me and encouraged me...that's why I reached out here in the first place. We have so much in common that sharing good things or the bad things feels right. I can't thank you enough, your messages are touching. You guys have great cards, and great dogs...you must be great guys :D OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App on my iPAD From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 10:35 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Man's Best Friend [1 Attachment] It=92s a duty most of us had to deal with before.It=92s a lot tougher than it sounds.It=92s as heart wrenching as just about anything I have had to do, in fact.Tomorrow morning we are putting down our beloved dog.Sammie has been with us nearly 11 years.He=92s hurting with a very quick onset of cancerous tumors and cannot breathe very well.I tear up thinking about me driving him in the morning to his =93appointment=94, because he has some good hours and some bad. Mostly bad in the past couple weeks.He was very cheerful in the past hour as we drove to McDonald=92s to buy him a softserve.It=92s a 16 mile round trip to spend that $1.08 but it=92ll be a priceless memory for us as we lose our best buddy tomorrow.I have to type this now, because I doubt I will be able to tomorrow.I=92ll share a picture, feel free to share pics of your pals.Sorry to go so far off topic from baseball Attachment(s) from Brian Lindholme 1 of 1 Photo(s) sammy 002.jpg ================= Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:58:19 -0700 (PDT) To: VCT , From: John Dahms Subject: vintage basketball and hockey available and a few non sport I have a few vintage hockey and basketball available. if interested in condition please just ask. 78/79 hockey--#'s 141 247 82/83 hockey--#'s--49 57 62 97 73/74 hockey--#'s--52 84 78/79 hockey--#'s--19 36 112 131 194 222 246 80/81 hockey--#'s--14 20 21 27 30 45 49 51 64 66 68 70 71 73 97 99 107 134 135 142 143 156 159 171 174 177 193 204 206 227 229 248 255 259 262 264 72/73 basketball--125 69/70 basketball--77 84 70/71 basketball--12 17 45 67 1980 empire strikes back #266 han solo 1965 the man from Uncle #'s 28 and 43 let me know John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:30:38 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: regarding the vintage football, basketball and hockey I posted yesterday I have had a bunch of responses to these, I just want everyone to know Iam going to hold off on filling for a couple of days as I want everyone toget a chance at looking at these. thanks to all and hopefully I can help out a bunch of ya. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= To: "'Ken'" , Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:58:57 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 77 Topps Cloth Sticker Question I remember buying these when they first came out. I think it was 3 patches and a checklist card to a pack. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 3:35 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 77 Topps Cloth Sticker Question Thanks to Ant for a starter lot of these at the National I'm now working on this set. I'm looking at buying a few unopen packs off of Ebay. Does anyone remember how many cards are in a pack? ================= Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:49:47 -0400 (EDT) To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Sept 3 Sports Illustrated request If anyone has finished reading their September 3rd SI edition and wouldn't mind parting with it I'd appreciate it if you could send it to me. My son Shane was cut last Sunday by the KC Chiefs. I'm not sure what the future holds but he is listed in this issue as the starting FB and I think he and his family would always cherish that issue. I know I will. Bob Bannon 112 Southridge Rd Southbury, CT 06488 ================= Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:41:29 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: more off condition vintage baseball (pre 1972) available putting another email out for the rest of the baseball. if you are condition sensitive,there might be a couple of VG but not many, these arent for you, paper loss, tears, creases....beautiful cards in my humble opinion. don't be shy, let me know 58 topps--241 267 318 382 395 411 455 59 topps--244 60 topps--3 20 30 186 213 421 460 469 61 topps--8 22 26 32 33 39 46 48 60 64 70 71 85 100 103 204 225 241 242 246254 62 topps--86 63 topps--29 39 80 64 topps--102 133 178 341 65 topps--37 52 71 76 90 325 328 530 65 embossed--39 66 topps--68 104 129 178 68 topps--44 91 117 118 341 437 69 topps--125 160 171 208 276 279 281 340 341 365 374 378 401 404 406 412 422 451 457 466 499 512 513 534 541 557 636 70 topps--11 25 27 39 112 160 236 244 342 71 topps--4 64 70 87 102 110 117 156 196 234 331 72 topps--14 59 67 84 99 121 170 176 193 198 215 225 236 314 320 321 356 374 429 494 575 615 622 626 647 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= To: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:29:26 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: Dis 'n Dat........... Well, it has been a long time since I Rambled, so if you are pressed for time just hit your DELETE key............... First, I am in a heavy sweat watching the Halos still trying to overcome a horrific start to the reason............realistically, no way they get 1st place, but they are 9-1 in their last 10, and I think have a good shot at a wildcard. I have been really impressed with Mike Trout in his rookie year, Weaver has been outstanding for the most part, Pujols just gets a so-so, and Santana should get a seat at the end of the bench.......maybe in Salt Lake City........yeah, that's it! Haven't yakked about Blood Island for a while, but that is because our lives have changed dramatically........we moved my 93 year old Dad in with us a year ago, and needless to say, it has been a chore. So Her Majesty and I never get to go together, so if we do go to Blood Island, it is one at a time, and only for 2-3 days. I haven't lost much blood over there this year, but that is because I haven't been there much. I imagine that will change and I'll get back to normal when Dad's number comes up for the Assisted Living place here in Powell River, there is a 2 year waiting list.........1 year down, one to go. I retired (again!) at the end of March, and am really hoping it takes hold this time around. So far, so good. Luckily, my retirement plans did not involve Jenny retiring too, so pensions aside, I am sort of a kept man. I could get used to this. I have my boat (The Proceeds of Crime) moored at the marina until the end of September, when it will move indoors to my garage for the Winter. It has been a joy to just hop in the truck, 5 minutes to the marina and boat, and out on the water we are. It was a total pain in the tooshie having to haul it down to the launch, go park the truck, walk back to the boat, etc. I'm liking this too. On the card front, I have been completely stagnant for the most part. Since we moved here from Vancouver, no card shows within a couple of hundred miles and a pair of ferry rides, and Evilbay has really made it difficult for Canadians to play. I never really liked them much anyways. So I am pretty much spinning my wheels, haven't lost interest, but I AM getting discouraged..............all I really want is to finish off the '63 and '64 sets, I don't think that is asking too much from life...........but that Rose RC is going to be a monster, Jenny might have to work an extra year or two to make that happen....and I'm only looking for the equivalent of a PSA 1 -2 or so...........I'm down to about 10 cards from each year, and surprisingly, most are commons, but some hi numbers in there.............. This afternoon I had some time on my hands and felt like playing with cardboard and bringing my OBC family up to date..........I pulled out my almost '56 set, most of it courtesy of OBC..............(you guys continue to amaze me!). While pawing through them, just because, (and Family Toad says I am weird for doing that!), like none of you or HIM ever do that............I noticed something. Now you do have to understand that I have been told many times by many people that I am mentally unstable, and am very easily amused. But I looked at the NY Giants team card (#226 for those keeping score at home), and noticed something odd.............. usually on a team card, the names are read left to right............on that one, they go right to left. I can tell because if Willie had been white, it would have been L-R, but since he is not, and likely never has been, it is R-L. Of course I had to pull out all of the team cards I have and then and check them out, but since most of the ones I have are around PSA 0, it is very hard to tell any individual player from the picture. I could, however, tell from the Tigers team card (and Kaline and Hoeft) that it goes L-R on that one, so I am going to assume the Giants cards reading R-L was either an oddity, or foreshadowing of their move the next year from the right coast to the left coast. Just a thought. So that's about it for now, I hope to be heading to the cabin at Blood Island tomorrow for a couple of days, and will do my best to bleed or at least come back with an entertaining story . Wish Kellen Diamanti was coming with me.........THEN you would get a report on Blood Island! Best regards to all of you, and thanks for putting up with my Morganti-esque Ramble, If you have stayed this far............... ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:40:19 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: There's always something you've never noticed before..... This is probably a well known uncorrected error, but I've only just noticedthat Whitey Ford's 1961T card (#160) lists his height as 5'0". Maybe he should have been known as Shorty Ford. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:40:46 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings From: Jake Elwell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's always something you've never noticed before..... That's one of my favorite cards though I never noticed that great typo before. Why is '61 Whitey Ford a favorite card for me, a lifelong Red Sox die-hard? Because I got mine by accident -- found between the pages of an old paperback and purchased for a dime at a used book sale ca. 1977. Since the card apparently spent its previous life in service as a bookmark, it's one ofmy few NMT vintage cards. Anyone else have a story about finding old cardboard in unexpected places? I'd love to hear them. --Jake Elwell PS Thanks for allowing a Rookie to Ramble. On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > This is probably a well known uncorrected error, but I've only just noticed that Whitey Ford's 1961T card (#160) lists his height as 5'0". Maybe he should have been known as Shorty Ford. > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:59:05 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's always something you've never noticed before..... Finding unexpected cards - like finding unexpected money - is one of lifes great little pleasures! Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:34:32 -0500 To: Jake Elwell From: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's always something you've never noticed before..... Some years ago I found a few cards from my childhood in a space in our basement between a wall board and our old furnace. One of them is now one of my most cherished cards .... the Twins team card from the first year I collected, 1968 Topps. I bought cards that year with every nickel I could get and all the neighborhood kids would trade for the Twins cards. I remember giving up a Mantle for a Ted Uhlaender and thinking I got the best of the deal. Now this creased and torn Twins team card sits prominently on my display case. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jake Elwell wrote: > ** > That's one of my favorite cards though I never noticed that great typo > before. Why is '61 Whitey Ford a favorite card for me, a lifelong Red Sox > die-hard? Because I got mine by accident -- found between the pages of an > old paperback and purchased for a dime at a used book sale ca. 1977. Since > the card apparently spent its previous life in service as a bookmark, it's > one of my few NMT vintage cards. > Anyone else have a story about finding old cardboard in unexpected places? > I'd love to hear them. > --Jake Elwell > PS Thanks for allowing a Rookie to Ramble. > On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > This is probably a well known uncorrected error, but I've only just > noticed that Whitey Ford's 1961T card (#160) lists his height as 5'0". > Maybe he should have been known as Shorty Ford. > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:08:04 -0600 To: OBC Ramblings From: Marshall West Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's always something you've never noticed before..... In 1959, 7-year old Marshall moved into a solid middle-class neighborhood in Salt Lake City. My father was a brickmason by trade, so he proceeded to brick the entire back yard...block walls, patio pillars, even a fireplace on the patio, and so on. Every time he bricked anything with room in the middle (like a pillar), I would take a mason jar and fill it with coins, postage stamps, handwritten notes from me, and...wait for it......BASEBALL CARDS!! As you know, my Uncle Fred Sanford was a New York Yankee pitcher in the early 50's and lived in my neighborhood. So, of course, I was a HUGE Yankee fan. I always sealed the mason jars with lids so NO OXYGEN would damage the items in the jar. My mother still lives in the same house. God only knows how many perfect baseball cards I planted in the backyard. From Marshall West, the "Johnny Appleseed of mint Mantles" On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Doug DeJong wrote: > ** > Some years ago I found a few cards from my childhood in a space in our > basement between a wall board and our old furnace. One of them is now one > of my most cherished cards .... the Twins team card from the first year I > collected, 1968 Topps. I bought cards that year with every nickel I could > get and all the neighborhood kids would trade for the Twins cards. I > remember giving up a Mantle for a Ted Uhlaender and thinking I got the best > of the deal. Now this creased and torn Twins team card sits prominently on > my display case. > Doug > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jake Elwell wrote: >> ** >> That's one of my favorite cards though I never noticed that great typo >> before. Why is '61 Whitey Ford a favorite card for me, a lifelong Red Sox >> die-hard? Because I got mine by accident -- found between the pages of an >> old paperback and purchased for a dime at a used book sale ca. 1977. Since >> the card apparently spent its previous life in service as a bookmark, it's >> one of my few NMT vintage cards. >> Anyone else have a story about finding old cardboard in unexpected >> places? I'd love to hear them. >> --Jake Elwell >> PS Thanks for allowing a Rookie to Ramble. >> On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: >> This is probably a well known uncorrected error, but I've only just >> noticed that Whitey Ford's 1961T card (#160) lists his height as 5'0". >> Maybe he should have been known as Shorty Ford. >> Glenn >> Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music >> Glenn's Sports Collection WantList "The problem with internet quotes is that many are not genuine." -- *Abraham ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:37:15 -0400 To: Jake Elwell , Doug DeJong From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's always something you've never noticed 30 years after I moved out of my parent's house, my dad told me he found an old card under the carpet. I'm dreaming Mays.....Mantle......Banks......but NOOOOOOOO.......what I got was Bobby Del Greco. Bill Malson ---- Doug DeJong wrote: > Some years ago I found a few cards from my childhood in a space in our > basement between a wall board and our old furnace. One of them is now one > of my most cherished cards .... the Twins team card from the first year I > collected, 1968 Topps. I bought cards that year with every nickel I could > get and all the neighborhood kids would trade for the Twins cards. I > remember giving up a Mantle for a Ted Uhlaender and thinking I got the best > of the deal. Now this creased and torn Twins team card sits prominently on > my display case. > Doug > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jake Elwell wrote: > > ** > > > > > > That's one of my favorite cards though I never noticed that great typo > > before. Why is '61 Whitey Ford a favorite card for me, a lifelong Red Sox > > die-hard? Because I got mine by accident -- found between the pages of an > > old paperback and purchased for a dime at a used book sale ca. 1977. Since > > the card apparently spent its previous life in service as a bookmark, it's > > one of my few NMT vintage cards. > > > > Anyone else have a story about finding old cardboard in unexpected places? > > I'd love to hear them. > > > > --Jake Elwell > > PS Thanks for allowing a Rookie to Ramble. > > > > On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > > > > > > > > This is probably a well known uncorrected error, but I've only just > > noticed that Whitey Ford's 1961T card (#160) lists his height as 5'0". > > Maybe he should have been known as Shorty Ford. > > > > Glenn > > > > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 18:11:50 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Geno Wagner Subject: San Diego meet-up Fellas -- I'm in SD for a class, so I gave Ed Watts a call for a dinner date...another OBCer for my list! We had some great pizza, a bimbo waitress, and the Chargers on MNF...can't ask for more than that! Lynn Miller even tried to dial into dinner, but I missed his call. Ed took time off from a kitchen remodel to teach me about Roman history, which is good since all I knew was from Monty Python's Life of Brian. And like Ceaser Augustus in his prime, Ed picked up the tab! Another great OBC meet-up with another great friend - thanks, Ed! Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 20:16:48 -0700 To: Geno Wagner From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] San Diego meet-up Hi Guys, I was about to write thanking Geno for making the trip up to Carlsbad for some pizza, SD county beer, and Chargers MNF. He and I may disagree about Denver beer vs San Diego beer (though Geno's home brew may tip the balance).I learned tons about OBC history and Geno's T202-205-206 quests. And he was not kidding about the bimbo waitress. One of those moments where the reality matches the stereotype. And Geno came carrying a batch of Ultra Propages to serve as a new home for my '65T set and a '65T Cepeda to take oneof the spaces in those pages. It was great to meet you Geno. Thanks for making the trek up here! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Geno Wagner wrote: > Fellas -- > I'm in SD for a class, so I gave Ed Watts a call for a dinner date...another OBCer for my list! We had some great pizza, a bimbo waitress, and the Chargers on MNF...can't ask for more than that! Lynn Miller even tried to dial into dinner, but I missed his call. Ed took time off from a kitchen remodel to teach me about Roman history, which is good since all I knew was from Monty Python's Life of Brian. And like Ceaser Augustus in his prime, Ed picked up the tab! > Another great OBC meet-up with another great friend - thanks, Ed! > Take Care, > Geno ================= To: "Edward Watts" Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:20:34 +0000 From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] San Diego meet-up ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:59:44 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "plupy8" Subject: Re: There's always something you've never noticed before..... Ah yes, the bittersweet near-misses. I had two, also from around 1977: *My buddy TJ, whose dad was a junk collector, calls to say he has a Ted Williams card from the Fifties for me. I'm crestfallen when it turns out to beone of the 59 Fleers. *In the boys' changing room at my grandparents' swimming club I see severalstickers stuck on the locker doors -- of Red Sox players from a few years previous -- George Scott, Mike Andrews and Yaz -- talismans of the Impossible Dream summer of 67! I had never seen these before! I tried to peel them off but to no avail. Now, of course, we know these were rare 67 Topps Test Issues. Too bad I didn't have a blowtorch! --Jake Elwell OBC Newbie --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > 30 years after I moved out of my parent's house, my dad told me he found an old card under the carpet. I'm dreaming Mays.....Mantle......Banks......but NOOOOOOOO.......what I got was Bobby Del Greco. > Bill Malson > ---- Doug DeJong wrote: > > Some years ago I found a few cards from my childhood in a space in our > > basement between a wall board and our old furnace. One of them is now one > > of my most cherished cards .... the Twins team card from the first yearI > > collected, 1968 Topps. I bought cards that year with every nickel I could > > get and all the neighborhood kids would trade for the Twins cards. I > > remember giving up a Mantle for a Ted Uhlaender and thinking I got the best > > of the deal. Now this creased and torn Twins team card sits prominently > > my display case. > > > > Doug > > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Jake Elwell wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > That's one of my favorite cards though I never noticed that great typo > > > before. Why is '61 Whitey Ford a favorite card for me, a lifelong RedSox > > > die-hard? Because I got mine by accident -- found between the pages of > > > old paperback and purchased for a dime at a used book sale ca. 1977. Since > > > the card apparently spent its previous life in service as a bookmark,it's > > > one of my few NMT vintage cards. > > > > > > Anyone else have a story about finding old cardboard in unexpected places? > > > I'd love to hear them. > > > > > > --Jake Elwell > > > PS Thanks for allowing a Rookie to Ramble. > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:40 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > This is probably a well known uncorrected error, but I've only just > > > noticed that Whitey Ford's 1961T card (#160) lists his height as 5'0". > > > Maybe he should have been known as Shorty Ford. > > > > > > Glenn > > > > > > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > > > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:58:52 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Billy made it... Still showing it off...now safe at home. ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:06:04 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: question about sponsoring a new member is there a form or something I need to fill out to sponsor a potential member? just wanted to make sure before I give him the goahead to fill out the John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 16:18:20 -0400 To: OBC ramblings , trading bases From: John E Dahms Subject: Waiver wire packages ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:48:06 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jerry Coker Subject: RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Great topic! A few years ago I wrote in my blog about finding a 1964 Dom Demeter card in the street near my house. There is a link to a pic of that card which I still have today. If you don't want to read the whole blog post just go to the last paragraph, following the link below: http://obcbeatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/collecting-vintage-baseball-cards/ Jerry Coker ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:37:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places In the early 90s, went into a used book shop in Pasadena, picked up an oldcopy of Leaves of Grass and a '55 Bowman Mays fell out. Told the bookstoreowner and offered to buy the card from him. He asked to see the book, looked at the priced he had penciled in ($1.50) and that is what he charged me for the book and as he put it, "free bookmark." Awesome...still have it tooand it is NICE! In my Fitts essay, I related the tale of one of my very first cards...TommyLasorda Manager from 1978 found in a creek on a camping trip with my day camp...still have that too but as you can see, not so nice. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Coker To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:48 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Great topic! A few years ago I wrote in my blog about finding a 1964 Dom Demeter card in the street near my house. There is a link to a pic of that card which I still have today. If you don't want to read the whole blog post just go to the last paragraph, following the link below: http://obcbeatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/collecting-vintage-baseball-cards/ Jerry Coker ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:17:52 +0000 From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:18:24 -0700 To: "illini_grad_90@yahoo.com" From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places I can never think of Dick Pole without also remembering Pete LaCock. Here is a little commemoration of the day in 1978 when they faced each other. http://cardboardgods.net/2006/10/15/dick-pole-and-peter-lacock/ Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone On Sep 12, 2012, at 5:17 PM, illini_grad_90@yahoo.com wrote: > I found a 1976 Dick Pole in an ashtray when I was a kid. It might not have been worth much, but the porn star jokes with my brothers more than made up for the pitifulness of my "find." > Take Care, > Geno > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > From: Jake Elwell > Sender: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:05:32 -0400 (GMT-04:00) > To: Joshua Levine; > ReplyTo: Jake Elwell > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places > Great stuff! Jerry's story as related in his blog reminds me of One That Got Away. It's 1970 and I was 6 years old. Already owned a few cards and liked them. Outside the little market where they sold cards, I noticed on theground, discarded and already a bit abused by the elements, something I had never seen before -- an oversized, thick-cardboard card. > For some reason I didn't pick it up; just one of those little-kid, fateful hesitations I guess. The next time we went to the store I looked for it, now desperately wanting it. But it was gone. And the store seemed to be outof what we now know as Topps Giants and never got them again. To this day,when I'm back home and drive by that store I still feel a little tug, wishing I had grabbed that card. > Thanks for listening, OBC! --Jake Elwell > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua Levine > Sent: Sep 12, 2012 7:37 PM > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places > In the early 90s, went into a used book shop in Pasadena, picked up an old copy of Leaves of Grass and a '55 Bowman Mays fell out. Told the bookstore owner and offered to buy the card from him. He asked to see the book, looked at the priced he had penciled in ($1.50) and that is what he charged mefor the book and as he put it, "free bookmark." Awesome...still have it too and it is NICE! > In my Fitts essay, I related the tale of one of my very first cards...Tommy Lasorda Manager from 1978 found in a creek on a camping trip with my daycamp...still have that too but as you can see, not so nice. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Coker > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:48 pm > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places > Great topic! A few years ago I wrote in my blog about finding a 1964 Dom Demeter card in the street near my house. There is a link to a pic of that card which I still have today. If you don't want to read the whole blog post just go to the last paragraph, following the link below: > http://obcbeatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/collecting-vintage-baseball-cards/ > Jerry Coker > ______________________________________________________________________________ ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:02:10 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places This is not an unexpected place to find them but I was a garbageman for 20 years and my best day was a few 54 bowman football plus a couple 60'scommons but to the bitter end I held out for the big score. I could fill awarehouse with all the late 80's and early 90's cards I seen. From: Jerry Coker To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Great topic! A few years ago I wrote in my blog about finding a 1964 Dom Demeter card in the street near my house. There is a link to a pic of that card which I still have today. If you don't want to read the whole blog post just go to the last paragraph, following the link below: http://obcbeatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/collecting-vintage-baseball-cards/ Jerry Coker ================= To: jelwell8@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:33:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Jake and the other new guys (or the guys whose memory is not what it should be)...here is the Playball story... Once upon a time an OBC member named Mike Hair used to open his house once a year around Memorial Day for an annual OBC get together. There would be ribs, beer, cards, half-rubber (a stickball hybrid), gambling, golf, laughing, etc. It eventually grew into a gathering of OBC members, spouses, and friends. At its height, I think we had nearly 25-30 people come to the bbq. One year, I was dating a girl (Heather) that I brought to the event (Peter will remind everyone if I don't that it was a new girl every year!). Heather loved the bbq. and traditionally the day after the bbq there was an OBC golf tournament and traditional lunch (this particular year, we decided to go to the new Hofbrauhaus). Since I did not play golf, I found out that there was a local mall show. Mike assured me that the mall shows usually were populated by dealers with new garbage and rarely had anything OBC collectible. Heather decided she would shop while I went and lurked at the show. Heather and I arrive at the mall and she goes off to shop and I start looking at the tables. I remember asking after some '64 Auravision records and beingdisappointed that they were super expensive. I did buy one bell brand cardwhich I think eventually found its way into Peters collection. I eventually found myself standing with an elderly gentleman near a table that had a few '60s star cards and was waiting for the dealer to stop talking to his friend and notice us, his customers. Eventually, the elderly gentleman asked the dealer if he was interested in buying anything. The dealer said sure and the man put a shopping bag on the glass case with two binders in it. He started to show the man the first binder which contained some '90s junk (I remember seeing Nolan Ryan Pacific cards and some upperdeck cards). The dealer just said, "not interested" and turned around to continue hisconversation. I had noticed that he had a couple of programs at the back of that binder that looked older. I asked the gentleman about it them and helet me look at them. Two game programs from the Pirates from 1958 and 1960. He asked me "Where did they play?" and I said, "Forbes Field." He then invited me over to a bench away from most of the show and showed me the otherbinder.' He said that his name was Earl and that he grew up in Pittsburgh. He first showed me the autograph book that he had as a kid. It had great Pirate stars from the late 30s through the early 1960s incl. Honus. It was amazing. Hethen showed me a newspaper clipping from 1942 that showed him as a boyscout and his "amazing baseball card collection." It was a tiny local paper that published little stories on local kids and he was a boy scout who had organized a card club and helped out at a local rest home and helped out with recycling glass! It was awesome. Turned the page and there was a sheet of 1941 Playball. Several sheets, 8 in total. The nine cards on the first sheetincluded an Ott and a Hubbell. I looked them over and they were in very good condition. He asked if I was interested in buying them. I said all I could give him was $300 (all that I could pull out of the ATM was $200 and the$100 in my pocket). He said since I seemed to know my baseball and sat with him for an hour talking ball and the Pirates (was it an hour already, yep!) he said he would sell me the 8 sheets of 1941 Playball cards for $300 knowing it would go into my permanent collection and that I would love them. I told him about OBC during our talk and he loved the idea. I walked to themall ATM, handed Earl the money and walked him to the bus stop. Shook his hand, got his phone number, and walked back to the mall to meet Heather. While waiting for Heather to arrive, I finally decide to look closer at the cards. I had seen the Ott and Hubbell and had quickly seen the Greenberg a few pages in but really did not look closely. I was sitting in the middle of the mall and let out what probably sounded like a little squeak, scream, nonsense word when I turned to the second pageand really looked at the cards and noticed the vg Ted Williams. I stared at it and turned to the back and realized that the pages were in number order. I immediately realized that I might have bought something really special. Flipped to the back of the set and sure enough...a nice vg+ Joe Dimaggio.I walked back to the table next to guy who blew Earl and I off, and asked to borrow a SCD...sure enough...8 pages, 72 cards, complete 1941 Playball set. Showed it to two dealers who deemed it authentic and asked where I got it, I told them to ask the dealer who blew us off!! Heather arrives and is super happy that she found a pair of shoes for 75% off!! She only spent $25!! I told her I spent $300 and asked if she had enough money to pay for our meal at the Hofbrauhaus! She was floored I spent somuch money until I told her it was about 95% off and that what I bought was worth close to $10,000!! We arrive at the lunch and all the OBC guys are sitting around the benches talking the golf game and gambling wins and shopping and I just wait until someone asks if I found anything at the show. (I had already shown Mike making sure I got one more opinion on the cards eventhough I knew they were real, I just could not believe it still). I then pulled out the binder and passed it around for everyone to see and freak out about! It was by far my best single purchase. Yes, I still own the set. It is awesome! There you have the Playball story... PS Jake, I will let this sink in but I have a knack for finding bargains....(n300, t205, 1953 Mantle, etc....so many stories). -----Original Message----- From: Jake Elwell To: hoot_owl1 ; Wite3 Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 5:06 pm Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places I'm new -- tell me about the 41 Play Ball purchase, please ! -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Sent: Sep 12, 2012 7:58 PM To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places That is almost as good as you 41 Playball purchase. Why doesn't anything like that happen to me. A small dealer in my home town in western NY showed me a 64 Topps Yaz coin that he found hiking in the woods--truly in the middle of nowhere. You have to wonder about the history of some of our treasures. peter mead On 09/12/12, Joshua Levine wrote: In the early 90s, went into a used book shop in Pasadena, picked up an oldcopy of Leaves of Grass and a '55 Bowman Mays fell out. Told the bookstoreowner and offered to buy the card from him. He asked to see the book, looked at the priced he had penciled in ($1.50) and that is what he charged me for the book and as he put it, "free bookmark." Awesome...still have it tooand it is NICE! In my Fitts essay, I related the tale of one of my very first cards...TommyLasorda Manager from 1978 found in a creek on a camping trip with my day camp...still have that too but as you can see, not so nice. -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Coker To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:48 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Great topic! A few years ago I wrote in my blog about finding a 1964 Dom Demeter card in the street near my house. There is a link to a pic of that card which I still have today. If you don't want to read the whole blog post just go to the last paragraph, following the link below: http://obcbeatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/collecting-vintage-baseball-cards/ Jerry Coker ================= Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 21:59:16 -0700 (PDT) To: Joshua Levine , jelwell8@earthlink.net, From: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Thanks for sharing Josh. As a relative newby here I had not heard that story. Talk about being in the right place at the right time. And since you mentioned Mel Ott, it goes to show that nice guys don't always finish last. Nice to see good karma play out. Mike Mackie From: Joshua Levine To: jelwell8@earthlink.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 12, 2012 11:33:32 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places Jake and the other new guys (or the guys whose memory is not what it should be)...here is the Playball story... Once upon a time an OBC member named Mike Hair used to open his house once a year around Memorial Day for an annual OBC get together. There would be ribs, beer, cards, half-rubber (a stickball hybrid), gambling, golf, laughing, etc. eventually grew into a gathering of OBC members, spouses, and friends. At its height, I think we had nearly 25-30 people come to the bbq. One year, I was dating a girl (Heather) that I brought to the event (Peter will remind everyone if I don't that it was a new girl every year!). Heather loved the bbq. and traditionally the day after the bbq there was an OBC golf tournament and traditional lunch (this particular year, we decided to go tothe new Hofbrauhaus). Since I did not play golf, I found out that there was a local mall show. Mike assured me that the mall shows usually were populated by dealers with new garbage and rarely had anything OBC collectible. Heather decided she would shop while I went and lurked at the show. Heather and I arrive at themall and she goes off to shop and I start looking at the tables. I remember asking after some '64 Auravision records and being disappointed that they were super expensive. I did buy one bell brand card which I think eventually found itsway into Peters collection. I eventually found myself standing with an elderly gentleman near a table that had a few '60s star cards and was waiting for the dealer to stop talking tohis friend and notice us, his customers. Eventually, the elderly gentleman asked dealer if he was interested in buying anything. The dealer said sure and the put a shopping bag on the glass case with two binders in it. He started to show the man the first binder which contained some '90s junk (I remember seeing Nolan Ryan Pacific cards and some upperdeck cards). The dealer just said, "not interested" and turned around to continue his conversation. I had noticed that he had a couple of programs at the back of that binder that looked older. I asked the gentleman about it them and he let me look at them. Two game programs from the Pirates from 1958 and 1960. He asked me "Where did they play?" andI said, "Forbes Field." He then invited me over to a bench away from most of the show and showed me the other binder.' He said that his name was Earl and that he grew up in Pittsburgh. He first showed me the autograph book that he had as a kid. It had great Pirate stars from the late 30s through the early 1960s incl. Honus. It was amazing. He then showed me a newspaper clipping from 1942 that showed him as a boyscout and his "amazing baseball card collection." It was a tiny local paper that published little stories on local kids and he was a boy scout who had organized a card club and helped out at a local rest home and helped out with recycling glass! was awesome. Turned the page and there was a sheet of 1941 Playball. Several sheets, 8 in total. The nine cards on the first sheet included an Ott and a Hubbell. I looked them over and they were in very good condition. He asked if was interested in buying them. I said all I could give him was $300 (all that could pull out of the ATM was $200 and the $100 in my pocket). He said since seemed to know my baseball and sat with him for an hour talking ball and the Pirates (was it an hour already, yep!) he said he would sell me the 8 sheets 1941 Playball cards for $300 knowing it would go into my permanent collection and that I would love them. I told him about OBC during our talk and he loved the idea. I walked to the mall ATM, handed Earl the money and walked him tothe bus stop. Shook his hand, got his phone number, and walked back to the mallto meet Heather. While waiting for Heather to arrive, I finally decide to look closer at the cards. I had seen the Ott and Hubbell and had quickly seen the Greenberg a few pages in but really did not look closely. I was sitting in the middle of the mall and let out what probably sounded like little squeak, scream, nonsense word when I turned to the second page and really looked at the cards and noticed the vg Ted Williams. I stared at it and turned to the back and realized that the pages were in number order. I immediately realized that I might have bought something really special. Flipped to the back of the set and sure enough...a nice vg+ Joe Dimaggio. I walked back to the table next to guy who blew Earl and I off, and asked to borrow a SCD...sure enough...8 pages, 72 cards, complete 1941 Playball set. Showed it to two dealers who deemed it authentic and asked where I got it, I told them to ask the dealer who blew Heather arrives and is super happy that she found a pair of shoes for 75% off!! She only spent $25!! I told her I spent $300 and asked if she had enough money to pay for our meal at the Hofbrauhaus! She was floored I spent so much money until I told her it was about 95% off and that what I bought was worth close We arrive at the lunch and all the OBC guys are sitting around the benches talking the golf game and gambling wins and shopping and I just wait until someone asks if I found anything at the show. (I had already shown Mike making sure I got one more opinion on the cards eventhough I knew they were real, I just could not believe it still). I then pulled out the binder and passed it around for everyone to see and freak out about! It was by far my best single purchase. Yes, I still own the set. It is awesome! There you have the Playball story... PS Jake, I will let this sink in but I have a knack for finding bargains....(n300, t205, 1953 Mantle, etc....so many stories). -----Original Message----- From: Jake Elwell To: hoot_owl1 ; Wite3 Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 5:06 pm Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places I'm new -- tell me about the 41 Play Ball purchase, please ! -----Original Message----- >From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net >Sent: Sep 12, 2012 7:58 PM >To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places >That is almost as good as you 41 Playball purchase. Why doesn't anything like >that happen to me. >A small dealer in my home town in western NY showed me a 64 Topps Yaz cointhat >he found hiking in the woods--truly in the middle of nowhere. You have to >wonder about the history of some of our treasures. >peter mead > On 09/12/12, Joshua Levine wrote: >In the early 90s, went into a used book shop in Pasadena, picked up an oldcopy >of Leaves of Grass and a '55 Bowman Mays fell out. Told the bookstore owner >offered to buy the card from him. He asked to see the book, looked at the priced >he had penciled in ($1.50) and that is what he charged me for the book andas >put it, "free bookmark." Awesome...still have it too and it is NICE! >In my Fitts essay, I related the tale of one of my very first cards...Tommy >Lasorda Manager from 1978 found in a creek on a camping trip with my day >camp...still have that too but as you can see, not so nice. >-----Original Message----- >From: Jerry Coker >To: OBC-Ramblings >Sent: Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:48 pm >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places >Great topic! A few years ago I wrote in my blog about finding a 1964 Dom Demeter >card in the street near my house. There is a link to a pic of that card which >still have today. If you don't want to read the whole blog post just go tothe >last paragraph, following the link below: >http://obcbeatle.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/collecting-vintage-baseball-cards/ >Jerry Coker ================= Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:22:23 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: Finding old cardboard in unexpected places While visiting my mother back in the early 90s, I took an afternoon to search the attic of my childhood home for any of my original cards that might still be up there. I sold my collection to my old trading buddy Joey Feller (my mother would have NEVER thrown them out) for enough money to buy lunch at Foster Freeze back in 1968 or so, but maybe a card or two had slipped out and landed between the rafters? Well I found a 1967 Topps Vic Roznovsky (water-stained and scratched) that has an honored place in my '67 set. But Ialso found a couple dozen 1962 Post Cereal cards that were cut from the cereal box by a then 9 year old Guru. And for some reason, every picture of the player on the card was cut out too! (see attachment picture). Guru ================= Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:20:05 -0400 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Available: Sox v. Yankees ticket stub from last night Have an extra stub from last night's game, wherein Jeter tied Mays on the hit list. Any Yankee or Jeter fan interested in it? ================= Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:27:20 -0400 (EDT) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: storing cards in the garage? hi all moved to a new house and am figuring out how best to deal with the 200,000 cards or so i have in 5,000 card boxes (my vintage stuff will stay inside). i have a garage that has more than enough storage shelves to hold the boxes. so my question is, what is the effect on cards in an uninsulated garage? temps can range from zero to 100 over the year. hopefully no water, and the boxes will not be sitting on the ground. in fact, there should be some (but not much) air circulation around the boxes. worried about warping, humidity caused issues, perhaps bugs (no rodents i dont think). so if anyone has had experience with this, i would like to hear from you. and if there is a better way to store them if they are staying in the garage, that would help too. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: FIXED issues, NEW site Hello all, I have had Extreme difficulty with my phone and internet service the past month or so. I have been trying to stay active, but have been experiencing some technical difficulties. Anyhow, my website has been updated and re-created. Go to wwesmyster2cards.webs.com for my lists. I have been able to sendsome more thank you's to the OBC. If anyone has been missed, I'm sorry, but fear not, as the cards are always appreciated. If I owe anyone any cards from a pending trade, please let me know. Wes Shepard ================= Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:55:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Re: storing cards in the garage? I'd be very worried about the humidity AND the possible insect (or worse) problem if they are in cardboard boxes. If they have to stay in the garage, I'd look into buying some of those plastic storage tubs from Target or WalMart with locking lids (not the snap-on lids; those never seem to be secure). Look for the ones with the locks built into the sides that snap over the lids. I would think that a cool, dry place - like a basement, or other climate-controlled environment - is best; a garage that gets up to 100 degrees wouldscare the bejeezus out of me when it comes to card storage. My 2 cents. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, smartalecx@... wrote: > hi all > moved to a new house and am figuring out how best to deal with the 200,000 > cards or so i have in 5,000 card boxes (my vintage stuff will stay inside). > i have a garage that has more than enough storage shelves to hold the > boxes. so my question is, what is the effect on cards in an uninsulated > garage? temps can range from zero to 100 over the year. hopefully no water, > the boxes will not be sitting on the ground. in fact, there should be > some (but not much) air circulation around the boxes. > worried about warping, humidity caused issues, perhaps bugs (no rodents i > dont think). so if anyone has had experience with this, i would like to > hear from you. and if there is a better way to store them if they are > staying in the garage, that would help too. > thanks, > Gary Mandell > 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 > Chicago, IL 60613-5518 > _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ > (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) > Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:22:25 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: finished set finally finished the 78 topps football set that Mike Mroz started me on about 4 years ago....and in OBC fashion i just listed the 77 topps football set on my page. nobody to thank for the finishing card, just a shout out for my first completed football set. yay me! John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:14:48 -0500 To: OBC Ramblings From: Doug DeJong Subject: Life's little curveballs Hope it is OK for me to take a few moments to take (mostly) about non-baseball card stuff. I haven't been that active lately for a number of reasons, mainly due to a six month long project with consultants at work that will end soon with a significant downsizing of my staff. I am the director of pharmacy for a health system and the changes in reimbursement for hospitals has already started taking a toll so the new CEO wants to get on top of it sooner than later. It has been brutal, but the hardest part is still to come as most of the details on which positions to eliminate fall on me. On top of this my wife had a spot removed earlier this summer that turned out to be melanoma. It was a particularly deep one with all the characteristics of one that has likely spread. So a few days ago she had a radioactive dye injected to trace where the lymphatic system drains and they removed four lymph nodes to see if/where it has spread. In this way they can 'map' the progression and decide what to do from there. The original spot is on the inside of her ankle, where you have no skin, and they had to remove the margins of that area which left a big hole in a spot with no extra skin to pull over. So they had to graft some skin from her abdomen onto her ankle and immobilize her ankle. Right now that is the most painful thing for her. Between when the melanoma was taken off and the lymph node mapping began she decided to go ahead and get her mammogram, which she is not always as consistently getting. That came back suspicious so they redid it. They did a needle biopsy which came back bad so after she recovers from this she needs to have a surgical biopsy of her breast So now we wait for the results of the lymph nodes that were removed and then the breast biopsy, hoping for the best. My wife and I are very fortunate in that we were high school sweethearts, got married early and have been best friends since.A tough time for both of us, obviously, and the waiting is no fun. But, I have found some time while caring for her this week to pull out the dupe box and start hitting some want lists again. She was even laying on the couch looking through some of my binders and helping me match dupes with wantlists. Tomorrow I hope to post some availables. It is therapeutic sometimes to have a hobby you enjoy to help balance the curveballs we all get thrown at us from time to time. For that I thank OBC and all of you! By the way, when cruising ebay I noticed there were multiple dealers using OBC in the description of their low grade cards - I had seen one before but hadn't noticed multiple doing it! ================= Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 00:47:58 -0400 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Knuckleball! - In Select Theaters & On VOD Sept. 18th Heads up that this excellent documentary about the knuckleball is getting wider release, starting this week. Saw it earlier at a local film festival and really enjoyed the way they tied together the pitch's long history without bogging down in numbers or exposition. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Knuckleball! The Movie To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com Dear Knuckleball! fans - You're receiving this email because you signed up on our website for updates on the film. *WE HAVE GREAT NEWS!* Knuckleball! is coming to select theaters, iTunes and VOD on September 18th We can't thank you enough for joining us on this journey that started way back in Spring 2012 with the film's premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival. Whether you saw Knuckleball! at Tribeca, another film festival or have yet to see it, help us now to spread the word about our release! Use the links below to: - Follow us on Twitteror Facebook - Watch our all-new trailer - Find out how to see it on VOD & in theaters - Forward this email to your baseball-loving friends! Thanks again! The Knuckleball Team Follow us on Twitter Like us on Facebook See Knuckleball! Watch the Trailer unsubscribe from this list| subscription preferences ================= To: ddejong17@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: FIREMAN Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Life's little curveballs I am very sorry to hear about your wife, I too have been inactive and havetons of thank yous to send out, We just found out my father was diagnosed with stomach cancer the Drs feel it is treatable but its going to be a longhard process. I wish you all the best with your wife and your family will be in my prayers Rob Gioia -----Original Message----- From: Doug DeJong To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sat, Sep 15, 2012 9:14 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Life's little curveballs Hope it is OK for me to take a few moments to take (mostly) about non-baseball card stuff. I haven't been that active lately for a number of reasons, mainly due to a six month long project with consultants at work that will end soon with a significant downsizing of my staff. I am the director of pharmacy for a health system and the changes in reimbursement for hospitals has already started taking a toll so the new CEO wants to get on top of it sooner than later. It has been brutal, but the hardest part is still to come as most of the details on which positions to eliminate fall on me. On top of this my wife had a spot removed earlier this summer that turned out to be melanoma. It was a particularly deep one with all the characteristics of one that has likely spread. So a few days ago she had a radioactive dye injected to trace where the lymphatic system drains and they removed four lymph nodes to see if/where it has spread. In this way they can 'map'the progression and decide what to do from there. The original spot is onthe inside of her ankle, where you have no skin, and they had to remove the margins of that area which left a big hole in a spot with no extra skin to pull over. So they had to graft some skin from her abdomen onto her ankle and immobilize her ankle. Right now that is the most painful thing for her. Between when the melanoma was taken off and the lymph node mapping began she decided to go ahead and get her mammogram, which she is not always as consistently getting. That came back suspicious so they redid it. They did a needle biopsy which came back bad so after she recovers from this sheneeds to have a surgical biopsy of her breast done. So now we wait for the results of the lymph nodes that were removed and then the breast biopsy, hoping for the best. My wife and I are very fortunatein that we were high school sweethearts, got married early and have been best friends since.A tough time for both of us, obviously, and the waiting is no fun. But, I have found some time while caring for her this week to pull out the dupe box and start hitting some want lists again. She was even laying on the couch looking through some of my binders and helping me match dupes withwantlists. Tomorrow I hope to post some availables. It is therapeutic sometimes to have a hobby you enjoy to help balance the curveballs we all getthrown at us from time to time. For that I thank OBC and all of you! By the way, when cruising ebay I noticed there were multiple dealers using OBC in the description of their low grade cards - I had seen one before buthadn't noticed multiple doing it! ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:39:23 -0400 (EDT) From: FIREMAN Subject: Another Curve Ball Hey everyone, As Doug mentioned b-4 about life's curve balls I tood was throw a curveball in life and that is why i have been so tardy on my thank yous to the obcers who have sent packages. In July my father passed out and struck his head and was unconscious on life support for a day. Fast forward we couldntfigure out what caused the fall...we ran 100s of neurological tests found nothing....The Drs give him a clean bill of health so we take dad on a family cruise Dad spent 80% of the vacation sleeping in his cabin thats when we knew something was drastically wrong. When we got home we brought him tothe Drs, where the found his blood count to be very low, ran further test to fin dad was bleeding internally from his stomach. They ran more tests tofind he had stomach cancer. So this was a shock. My dad was a smoker most of his life he quit 2 years ago so if the Drs said lung cancer we wouldn't have been so shocked and confused. THe Drs said the caner hasnt spread and is treatable. But it will be a long road. Most of my free time will be juggled between work, my sons baseball and dad now. If I Dont send out thanks please On a bright note, a couple days ago Andy cook sent me a package with a 57 don drysdale and 54 bowman bob feller ( I hope i didnt mix that up with another package) if so im sorry Thank you guys for everything Rob Gioia ================= Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:31:52 +0000 (UTC) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, dan@iamdanaustin.com, kevinm38@aol.com, From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Subject: this has been your time to shine http://trameocom.com/foxnews.sundayreview24.php ================= Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:18:10 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC) " From: Geordie Calvert Subject: apologies Hi, gang - hope all is well in your corner of the world. If any of you got a spam email from me, my deepest apologies. I'm guessing I picked up a bug somewhere, and it is using my address book to send some sort of spam. I'm in the process of doing a deep virus/spyware search, so hopefully that will root out and eliminate the problem. ================= To: , Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:11:55 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] apologies When it happened to me I changed my password and that ended it. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:18:10 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] apologies Hi, gang - hope all is well in your corner of the world. If any of you got a spam email from me, my deepest apologies. I'm guessingI picked up a bug somewhere, and it is using my address book to send some sort of spam. I'm in the process of doing a deep virus/spyware search, so hopefully that will root out and eliminate the problem. ================= To: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:27:20 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Old Games and other items on DVD Available I've a very large collection of DVDs that I can easily make copies of for anyone who is interested. The DVDs I have include; Many full games, including most WS Games from 65,68-83, some all star games and newsreel films. Most games are full games including original commercials. 60's and earlier are usually B/W. 70s and newer are color. Various Superbowls from SB4 to SB13. Couple other misc games. Some Bruins/Bobby Orr DVDs from the 70's A few early 70 A/S Games Lot of Beatles, Rolling Stones, Springsteen I can send a full list to anyone who is interested. ================= Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:31:13 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "welfar03" Subject: Topps Stamp Question Guys I've started working on the 69 Topps Stamp set. I'm wondering how to best collect the set? Stamps in the album or out? I'm leaning toward the stamps in the albums. I have a couple of albums with a few stamps already in them. So figure I will buy the missing stamps and maybe put them in thealbums with stamp hinges. Any input? Ken P. ================= To: kenpillion@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Stamp Question I look forward to hearing others response to this also. I have alnums withstamps in them. When I get missing stamps, I fut them in a top loader witht he album, but do not actually attach them tot he album. I seperately have also been trying to collect full connected panels and detached singles, that I keep distinct from the albums. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: welfar03 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:31 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Stamp Question Guys I've started working on the 69 Topps Stamp set. I'm wondering how to best collect the set? Stamps in the album or out? I'm leaning toward the stamps in the albums. I have a couple of albums with a few stamps already in them. So figure I will buy the missing stamps and maybe put them in thealbums with stamp hinges. Any input? Ken P. ================= Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:21:03 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "thenamenotused" Subject: What am I? Not quite baseball, but still cards. I was recently given my father-in-law, to be's, baseball card collection from his childhood. I have been going through all of the cards and found several interesting pieces. I have also found some things that I have no idea what they are. This is one of the sets I can't identify. I do not know what this set is called. I am hoping somebody in OBC has knowledge of presidential cards. The copyright is 1964 Sales Promotion Services, Inc. Dallas Texas. With the 1964 copyright I can be almost certain this is the last card in the set. Can you tell me what this is? I appreciate any assistance anybody may be able to provide. Thank you, Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:08:55 +0000 (UTC) To: From: Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Announcements] RE: Attention to those members who use

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================= To: , , Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:00:34 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: AAA Championship programs If anyone wants a AAA Championship program from tonight's game between the Pawtucket Red Sox and Reno Aces (Reno won 10-3), just let me know. ================= To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:42:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: test just a test, thanks! ================= To: Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:28:01 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: Old Games and other items on DVD Available DVDs shipped today to everyone who asked, specifically; Ed Watts Jerry Coker TJ Valacak Marshall West Ed Pike Gary Mandell Due to limitations of time (it takes to burn a DVD) and the number of blank DVDs I have, I was not able to send everyone everything they wanted, but I was able to hit most requests. I shipped media mail so it might take a week or so to get the DVDs. Those who requested a lot of DVDs, I sent a good amount that should keep you busy for a while. If there are specific DVDs you'd like please let me know and I can send them to you at a later time. If you want a lot of DVDs I'd appreciated it if you could send me the blanks as I am about all out. Offer is still open to anyone else, including people who inquired but I've not heard back from. Thanks and have fun! From: Bob Donaldson [mailto:obcbobd@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:27 AM To: 'obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com' Subject: Old Games and other items on DVD Available I've a very large collection of DVDs that I can easily make copies of for anyone who is interested. The DVDs I have include; Many full games, including most WS Games from 65,68-83, some all star games and newsreel films. Most games are full games including original commercials. 60's and earlier are usually B/W. 70s and newer are color. Various Superbowls from SB4 to SB13. Couple other misc games. Some Bruins/Bobby Orr DVDs from the 70's A few early 70 A/S Games Lot of Beatles, Rolling Stones, Springsteen I can send a full list to anyone who is interested. ================= To: , Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 14:56:02 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Stamp Question I always thought a neat way to do it would be to have two albums. One would go in the binder w/o stamps. The other would be taken apart and the individual pages put in the album page so you could see the stamps. Maybe makea photo copy of the pagse and put the stamps with that in individual pockets. That way you are not destroying the albums. Hmm I might try that! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:53 AM To: kenpillion@windstream.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Stamp Question I look forward to hearing others response to this also. I have alnums withstamps in them. When I get missing stamps, I fut them in a top loader witht he album, but do not actually attach them tot he album. I seperately have also been trying to collect full connected panels and detached singles, that I keep distinct from the albums. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: welfar03 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 12:31 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps Stamp Question Guys I've started working on the 69 Topps Stamp set. I'm wondering how to best collect the set? Stamps in the album or out? I'm leaning toward the stamps in the albums. I have a couple of albums with a few stamps already in them. So figure I will buy the missing stamps and maybe put them in the albums with stamp hinges. Any input? Ken P. ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:56:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother.Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There isthe possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= To: , Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:07:50 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Unbelievable. I had met Chris at a couple Nationals, and helped him out with his 1973 project. We sat next to each other at the Net54 dinner last month and talked on and on about a variety of topics. We subsequently emailed a bit and I learned from Chris how he went about gathering info for his blogs, which I have been enjoying for some time. This is a bit of a shock. I would like to be included in whatever appropriate way we can help. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:56:01 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Manyof us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet.They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months awayfrom Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris'1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 20:19:12 -0500 To: mikesportsfan From: John Leroux Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news ================= To: "'mikesportsfan'" , Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:51:14 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Just sad, no better word for it, and like Ken, I am also stuck for words...........just sad. Let me know if I can help in any way......... From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan Sent: September-21-12 5:56 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5283 - Release Date: 09/21/12 ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:47:21 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: sad news I like Mike M. met Chris at the national seweveral years ago and it was a great meeting. It is indeed sad. Richard Labs ================= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:59:23 -0700 To: Richard From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] sad news Unbelievably sad. And mind blowing. Keep us posted how we can help his mom and daughter. Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:47 PM, "Richard" wrote: > I like Mike M. met Chris at the national seweveral years ago and it was agreat meeting. It is indeed sad. > Richard Labs ================= To: Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:09:09 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] sad news I just missed meeting him this year in Baltimore, but traded several times with him the past 18 months since joining and just in the last couple weeks too. I actually found his blog before I did OBC. I loved trying to hit the 73 for his "raffle set" and looked forward to getting some of them just for that at the Philly Show next week. This is very sad. Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Edward Watts Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:59 PM To: Richard Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] sad news Unbelievably sad. And mind blowing. Keep us posted how we can help his mom and daughter. Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:47 PM, "Richard" wrote: I like Mike M. met Chris at the national seweveral years ago and it was a great meeting. It is indeed sad. Richard Labs ================= To: OBC-Ramblings Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:13:34 -0400 From: Joe Isaac Subject: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news There is nice image of Chris on his blog page in front of a helmet from hisfavorite football team http://www.blogger.com/profile/04229983444919282224 and a few articles thatChris wrote that are on the Library page. I had the pleasure to meet Chris at the '04 and '07 National in Cleveland. I believe what Chris wrote in his blog intro as "an all-around nice guy" was very true. He will be missed. It always makes me sad when I update the bottom of the directory page. Joe Isaac Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:50:33 -0700 From: jwi762@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: jwi62@hotmail.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: cardclctor To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: RE:[OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I too got a call from Chris' mother. My phone never rang, as the reception in the store is poor at best. When I checked my messages after work thinking they were from Stacey, my jaw hit the floor. I'm normally pretty verbose on this server, but even a few words escape me at the moment. I shared my room with Chris at the National. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking it up and having a good time. I also had the opportunity to spend a couple nights with his family during happier times when they were living inFlorida and the Patriots were playing in the Superbowl in Jacksonville that year. He will be sorely missed by this heartbroken OBC'er. Ken M Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : mikesportsfan Subject : [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She isnow about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a whilenow, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There isthe possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:37:09 -0400 To: Joe Isaac , OBC-Ramblings From: John E Dahms Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news ================= Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 23:46:43 -0400 (EDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Content-Language: en Yikes, that is a stab. I met with Chris in Jacksonville and twice at card shows. What a great chuckle he had about cards and about life. I am sad to hear about his recent sadness and wretched over his death. A great guy.. Cheers Chris. In a message dated 9/21/2012 8:56:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikesportsfan@aol.com writes: I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would sho w what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that wouldbe I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 04:08:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bob" Subject: Linking to Chris' blogs from tbo.com Hi gang, Writing tributes is not my strong suit, but I gave it a go on tbo.com tonight. I wanted our readers to get a chance to go through Chris' blogs and seehow much fun card collecting (and writing a blog about it) could be: http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/saying-farewell-to-vintage-blogger-is-tough/ ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:24:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I am so dismayed...just traded emails with him a few weeks ago and sent him a puffy full of cards in my July bombardment. Christ was fantastic and will be missed greatly. I posted to Net54 already...so sad. -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 5:56 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could helpin proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 03:12:23 -0400 (EDT) To: bdangelo@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Linking to Chris' blogs from tbo.com Content-Language: en great stuff bob. thanks for paying tribute in such a wonderful way! i am very sad. i got to know chris quite well over the past few years, mostly through conversations having nothing to do with sports or collecting. whether it was seeing him in person at the national or other shows, or via what seemed to be our endless string of emails that would last days at a time, he was passionate about the hobby and his daughter. i am sure so many of us remember his daughter "tagging along" at the pizza night, many of which seemed devoted to get her started in the hobby with a nice stack of "starters" from OBC. a proud papa and the essence of how wonderful our little group really is. as mike alluded to, these were a very tough few years for chris, and i am sorry that those outside issues could not be fully resolved before his passing. i cant help but think that this played some part in his untimely end. rest in peace my good friend. you will be remembered fondly and missed Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 9/21/2012 11:08:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bdangelo@aol.com writes: Hi gang, Writing tributes is not my strong suit, but I gave it a go on tbo.com tonight. I wanted our readers to get a chance to go through Chris' blogs and see how much fun card collecting (and writing a blog about it) could be: _http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/saying-farewell-to-vintag (http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/comments/saying-farewell-to-vintage-blogger-is-tough/) ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:45:20 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Larry Tipton Subject: Re: Shocking sad news Yes shocking and sad news.... Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 02:29:50 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Sad news Terrible news to wake up to. I'm glad that I attended The National in Chicago in 2011 and had the chance to meet Chris. We'd thrown cards and emails each others way many times over the years. A nice guy who will be sorely missed by this group. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:37:19 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Andy Subject: Re: Shocking sad news If we bought his collection and/or held an OBC auction and if his Mom agreed, we could open a 529 college savings account for Melissa with Chris' Mom as the owner so we'd be sure the ex wouldn't get access to the money. Then there'd also be a place for others to donate to directly help his daughter. Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:09:07 -0400 From: Subject: Sad news So sorry to hear about Chris, never met him, traded with many times, I remember the times emailing back and forth talking about our favorite team the Steelers. Nick Covello ================= To: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:18:00 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Re: Shocking sad news A shock indeed. We was a good father, collector, writer, and a good guy. Thanks to Mike and all for sharing information on this. Chris will be George Vrechek ================= To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: FIREMAN Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news This is a shock and quite terrible news. I had the pleasure of meeting Chris at 3 Nationals and he would always be on the look out for cards for otherobcers and if he found that card for you he would quickly call you and getyou over to the table. It was sad news hearing what he was going through. I hope we can do something in the future for his daughter. Rob Gioia -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2012 8:56 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could helpin proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= To: "'Andy'" , Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:22:00 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shocking sad news That's a great idea! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 6:37 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Shocking sad news If we bought his collection and/or held an OBC auction and if his Mom agreed, we could open a 529 college savings account for Melissa with Chris' Mom as the owner so we'd be sure the ex wouldn't get access to the money. Then there'd also be a place for others to donate to directly help his Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 06:37:42 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news This is terrible news. I am very sad to say I only knew Chris through hisOBC correspondence . I am also sad that I was unable to attend the National andhave missed an opportunity to meet another of our brethren. My thoughts and prayers are with his Daughter,Mother & the rest of his family. I am particularly to his mother who has lost a child. I know first hand the devastation she must be experiencing at this time.No one should have to burytheir child mattertheirage, it goes against the nature of life. I amdeeply disturbed with the fact that his wife is not releasing the body to Chris's Mother, he has belonged to his Mother since his birth and he should be with her now. I matters not who isis "at fault' if anyone in the pending divorce,but what she is doing is morally and ethically criminal. Thanks Mike for providing the address, I will definitely send a card to both Jenny and Chris's daughter. I am up for any OBC project and will be watching further news in this regard. I am hopeful that we can find a way to do something meaningful for bothJenny andMellisa. "we keep what we give away!" From: mikesportsfan To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, September 21, 2012 8:56:08 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to seeher every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife willnot allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:54:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Corvello Subject: Chris Like everyone else, I was saddened to hear of Chris's premature departure from this world. I don't think I ever had the opportunity to shake his hand,but I did know a bit about him in another way that I would like to share with the group. A couple of months ago, Chris and I got involved in a short dialogue about some of my published political views, and now his passing reminds me of what I found to be remarkable about him, especially when weighed with what younormally see in this day and age. We didn't agree on every issue, though we did on some; but what really impressed me was his fair- and open-minded perception of the issues. In a day when extremism is rampant and when "virtual" yelling, screaming, and venom are par for the course, Chris "discussed"issues in a measured and honest way that made me think, even when we ultimately may have disagreed. To me, his wisdom, respectfulness, and honest statements of the opinions heheld, came across as the measure of the man. Thought you all might like toknow about my experience. I will miss his objectivity and his willingness to share his views. He is now in my prayers. Bob Corvello ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:48:46 -0500 To: Glenn Codere From: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Sad news Indeed.....tough news to wake up to indeed. I never met Chris but was the benefactor of several trades. He will definitely be missed. Sent from my iPad On Sep 22, 2012, at 4:29 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > Terrible news to wake up to. I'm glad that I attended The National in Chicago in 2011 and had the chance to meet Chris. We'd thrown cards and emailseach others way many times over the years. A nice guy who will be sorely missed by this group. > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 07:54:11 -0700 (PDT) To: John E Dahms , Joe Isaac , From: EEK Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like the idea regarding the 73 set. Someone mentioned thatChris didnot an OBC card, I was thinking that perhaps Jenny and Melisa would appreciatean OBCChris card in the 73 design. Perhaps the photo from theNational would be appropriate to use. Is this possible Tom? I bet the others in OBC would like one. I know I would, and would certainly help to defraywhatevercost "we keep what we give away!" From: John E Dahms To: Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, September 21, 2012 11:37:20 PM Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news It is very sad. I never had the pleasure of meeting Chris but had thepleasue of trading with him numerous times. And also found numerous cards for his 73 blog set. I would like to make a suggestion to the powers thatbe in this group. And anyone else for that matter that we think of putting together many 73 topps sets and possibly put them on ebay with proceeds to go into a trust for his daughter. just a thought for the future Sent via my Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost Mobile Joe Isaac wrote: There is nice image of Chris on his blog page in front of a helmet from his favorite football team http://www.blogger.com/profile/04229983444919282224 and a few articles that Chris wrote that are on the Library page. I had the pleasure to meet Chris at the '04 and '07 National in Cleveland. I believe Chris wrote in his blog intro as "an all-around nice guy" was very true. He will be missed. It always makes me sad when I update the bottom of the directory page. Joe Isaac Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:50:33 -0700 From: jwi762@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: jwi62@hotmail.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: cardclctor To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: RE:[OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I too got a call from Chris' mother. My phone never rang, as the reception in the store is poor at best. When I checked my messages after work thinking they were from Stacey, my jaw hit the floor. I'm normally pretty verbose on this server, but even a few words escape me at the moment. I shared my room with Chris at the National. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking itup and having a good time. I also had the opportunity to spend a couple nightswith his family during happier times when they were living in Florida and the Patriots were playing in the Superbowl in Jacksonville that year. He will be sorely missed by this heartbroken OBC'er. Ken M Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : mikesportsfan >Subject : [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news >I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's >mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who >never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he wasin >the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about >14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us >got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, >the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to >have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. >Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being >able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had >turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much hiscard >collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every >he received a package with cards, he would show what he >received from her, as if it was Christmas. >Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help >some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, >as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the >ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in >proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold >someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility >could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would >to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As >stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. >Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, >along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris'1973 >Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. >I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his >monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For >those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate >receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. >If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: >Jenny Marcott >6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE >St. Petersburg, FL33702 >Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, >either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. >Mike Rich >OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. >Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly >atwww.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0400 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: 529.com - Family & Friends Hi guys, Here are details on the 529 college savings plan suggested earlier. Not sure how to handle the ownership, but like the idea. http://www.529.com/content/familyfriends.html ================= To: originaleek1@att.net, jd3681@yahoo.com, jwi62@hotmail.com, Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:15:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Heck...I will take this one step further and I would BUY a card of Chris and we could use the money towards Andy's idea...a college trust for Melissa. -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: John E Dahms ; Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Cc: Tom Housley Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:54 am Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like the idea regarding the 73 set. Someone mentioned that Chris did not have an OBC card, I was thinking that perhaps Jenny and Melisa would appreciate an OBC Chris card in the 73 design. Perhaps the photo from the National would be appropriate to use. Is this possible Tom? I bet the others in OBC would also like one. I know I would, and would certainly help to defray whatever cost incurred. "we keep what we give away!" From: John E Dahms To: Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, September 21, 2012 11:37:20 PM Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news It is very sad. I never had the pleasure of meeting Chris but had the pleasue of trading with him numerous times. And also found numerous cards for his 73 blog set. I would like to make a suggestion to the powers that be in this group. And anyone else for that matter that we think of putting together as many 73 topps sets and possibly put them on ebay with proceeds togo into a trust for his daughter. just a thought for the future Sent via my Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost Mobile Joe Isaac wrote: There is nice image of Chris on his blog page in front of a helmet from hisfavorite football team http://www.blogger.com/profile/04229983444919282224 and a few articles thatChris wrote that are on the Library page. I had the pleasure to meet Chris at the '04 and '07 National in Cleveland. I believewhat Chris wrote in his blog intro as "an all-around nice guy" was very true. He will be missed. It always makes me sad when I update the bottom of the directory page. Joe Isaac Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:50:33 -0700 From: jwi762@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: jwi62@hotmail.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: cardclctor To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: RE:[OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I too got a call from Chris' mother. My phone never rang, as the reception in the store is poor at best. When I checked my messages after work thinking they were from Stacey, my jaw hit the floor. I'm normally pretty verbose on this server, but even a few words escape me at the moment. I shared my room with Chris at the National. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking it up and having a good time. I also had the opportunity to spend a couple nights with his family during happier times when they were living inFlorida and the Patriots were playing in the Superbowl in Jacksonville that year. He will be sorely missed by this heartbroken OBC'er. Ken M Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : mikesportsfan Subject : [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother.Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There isthe possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:59:10 -0700 (PDT) To: Joshua Levine , jd3681@yahoo.com, jwi62@hotmail.com, From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like it, Josh! Since it would be Chris's Rookie Card I think it wouldcommand a premium. "we keep what we give away!" From: Joshua Levine To: originaleek1@att.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; jwi62@hotmail.com; Cc: directorth@aol.com Sent: Sat, September 22, 2012 11:15:53 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Heck...I will take this one step further and I would BUY a card of Chris and could use the money towards Andy's idea...a college trust for Melissa. -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: John E Dahms ; Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Cc: Tom Housley Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:54 am Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like the idea regarding the 73 set. Someone mentioned thatChris didnot an OBC card, I was thinking that perhaps Jenny and Melisa would appreciatean OBCChris card in the 73 design. Perhaps the photo from theNational would be appropriate to use. Is this possible Tom? I bet the others in OBC would like one. I know I would, and would certainly help to defraywhatevercost "we keep what we give away!" From: John E Dahms To: Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, September 21, 2012 11:37:20 PM Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news It is very sad. I never had the pleasure of meeting Chris but had thepleasue of trading with him numerous times. And also found numerous cards for his 73 blog set. I would like to make a suggestion to the powers thatbe in this group. And anyone else for that matter that we think of putting together many 73 topps sets and possibly put them on ebay with proceeds to go into a trust for his daughter. just a thought for the future Sent via my Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost Mobile Joe Isaac wrote: There is nice image of Chris on his blog page in front of a helmet from his favorite football team http://www.blogger.com/profile/04229983444919282224 and a few articles that Chris wrote that are on the Library page. I had the pleasure to meet Chris at the '04 and '07 National in Cleveland. I believe Chris wrote in his blog intro as "an all-around nice guy" was very true. He will be missed. It always makes me sad when I update the bottom of the directory page. Joe Isaac Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:50:33 -0700 From: jwi762@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: jwi62@hotmail.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: cardclctor To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: RE:[OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I too got a call from Chris' mother. My phone never rang, as the reception in the store is poor at best. When I checked my messages after work thinking they were from Stacey, my jaw hit the floor. I'm normally pretty verbose on this server, but even a few words escape me at the moment. I shared my room with Chris at the National. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking itup and having a good time. I also had the opportunity to spend a couple nightswith his family during happier times when they were living in Florida and the Patriots were playing in the Superbowl in Jacksonville that year. He will be sorely missed by this heartbroken OBC'er. Ken M Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : mikesportsfan >Subject : [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news >I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's >mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who >never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he wasin >the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about >14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us >got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, >the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to >have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. >Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being >able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had >turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much hiscard >collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every >he received a package with cards, he would show what he >received from her, as if it was Christmas. >Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help >some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, >as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the >ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in >proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold >someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility >could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would >to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As >stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. >Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, >along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris'1973 >Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. >I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his >monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For >those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate >receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. >If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: >Jenny Marcott >6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE >St. Petersburg, FL33702 >Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, >either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. >Mike Rich >OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. >Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly >atwww.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:00:44 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Wow...what can you say? Six weeks ago we were catching up at the national, now he's gone. It's hard to accept. We talked a bit about his personal difficulties, but it sounded like he wasgetting on a better track. We were born in the same era, so we shared similar collecting paths. We were some of younger guard for obc...but guess we're not that young anymore either. Rest in peace Chris...we will always remember you. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 00:56:01 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked meto tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There isthe possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:33:02 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Content-Language: en Wow what a shocker. Last chat I had with Chris was at the National. We talked a little bit about the 1973 Topps set and him thanking me for my donations to his quest. Chris, we'll miss you and a prayer will be said foryou From: mikesportsfan@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 9/21/2012 7:56:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time Subj: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would sho w what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that wouldbe I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:03:47 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: The passing of Chris I just saw him in Baltimore, I sat with him for a while, while he was tending to a dealers table and we chatted about life and cards. and then on the way to the OBC Swap meet we got a little lost on a train together and had a good laugh about it. I did see that Chris was a little more low keyed this time around when I meant him and I knew his issue with his ex was weighing on him but he never spoke about it. I am like everyone else..I am just shocked.. I may have to dig threw my Baltimore pictures for pictures of Chris. If I have any who should I send them too? (I saw an email asking for pictures) My prayers will be with Chris's Daughter and his Mom. God Bless, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:00:43 -0400 To: mikesportsfan From: "Jimmy \"Catfish\" Parker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news It's always tough to lose one of our own. Chris was a great guy. He will bemissed. On Sep 21, 2012, at 8:56 PM, "mikesportsfan" wrote: > I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is nowabout 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived adisance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. > Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want thecards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. > Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. > I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one tohis monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it.For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. > If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: > Jenny Marcott > 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE > St. Petersburg, FL 33702 > Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:23:41 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: stufflestreet I will miss Chris. He was a mentor of mine. When I didn't know or understand something I would ask him. He would kindly and without condescension guide me through. I have listened to the suppositions and the desires to "do the right thing" with his collection regarding its value and hoping to get it to his daughter but the truth is that unless we have specific declarations, and we should, it is lost within the estate laws of that state. So, as I have suggested before if you want to protect the value of your collection and you want to direct said value to an individual you better say so clearly in your will. Otherwise it is just part of your estate and if not defined the court will decide, without prejudice, where it will go. That said, I think we have the opportunity to create a platform that offers people the chance to find value in a collection. It would take time and effort but we could be there for every collector. It might be an internal collection or Ebay but at least we could say, "Hey, if you want true values we have them." A team of 4-8 really dedicated players could offer the descendants family a good return on their grandfathers efforts. lets establish such a committee. It would protect my intersts. ================= To: originaleek1@att.net, Wite3@aol.com, jd3681@yahoo.com, jwi62@hotmail.com, Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:42:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I'd certainly be glad to design one. I wouldn't know who to go to to get itprinted, but I'd be glad to do the artwork when I get back into town. I just read the horrible news about Chris about 10 minutes ago. I'm stunnedand saddened. He was a good guy, and I will miss him. -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: Joshua Levine ; jd3681 ; jwi62 ; obc-ramblings Cc: directorth Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:59 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like it, Josh! Since it would be Chris's Rookie Card I think it would command a premium. "we keep what we give away!" From: Joshua Levine To: originaleek1@att.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; jwi62@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: directorth@aol.com Sent: Sat, September 22, 2012 11:15:53 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Heck...I will take this one step further and I would BUY a card of Chris and we could use the money towards Andy's idea...a college trust for Melissa. -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: John E Dahms ; Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Cc: Tom Housley Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:54 am Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like the idea regarding the 73 set. Someone mentioned that Chris did not have an OBC card, I was thinking that perhaps Jenny and Melisa would appreciate an OBC Chris card in the 73 design. Perhaps the photo from the National would be appropriate to use. Is this possible Tom? I bet the others in OBC would also like one. I know I would, and would certainly help to defray whatever cost incurred. "we keep what we give away!" From: John E Dahms To: Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, September 21, 2012 11:37:20 PM Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news It is very sad. I never had the pleasure of meeting Chris but had the pleasue of trading with him numerous times. And also found numerous cards for his 73 blog set. I would like to make a suggestion to the powers that be in this group. And anyone else for that matter that we think of putting together as many 73 topps sets and possibly put them on ebay with proceeds togo into a trust for his daughter. just a thought for the future Sent via my Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost Mobile Joe Isaac wrote: There is nice image of Chris on his blog page in front of a helmet from hisfavorite football team http://www.blogger.com/profile/04229983444919282224 and a few articles thatChris wrote that are on the Library page. I had the pleasure to meet Chris at the '04 and '07 National in Cleveland. I believewhat Chris wrote in his blog intro as "an all-around nice guy" was very true. He will be missed. It always makes me sad when I update the bottom of the directory page. Joe Isaac Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:50:33 -0700 From: jwi762@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: jwi62@hotmail.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: cardclctor To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: RE:[OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I too got a call from Chris' mother. My phone never rang, as the reception in the store is poor at best. When I checked my messages after work thinking they were from Stacey, my jaw hit the floor. I'm normally pretty verbose on this server, but even a few words escape me at the moment. I shared my room with Chris at the National. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking it up and having a good time. I also had the opportunity to spend a couple nights with his family during happier times when they were living inFlorida and the Patriots were playing in the Superbowl in Jacksonville that year. He will be sorely missed by this heartbroken OBC'er. Ken M Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : mikesportsfan Subject : [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother.Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There isthe possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:38:57 -0400 To: dugout traders , OBC ramblings From: John E Dahms ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:50:55 -0400 To: dugout traders , OBC ramblings From: John E Dahms Subject: 69 topps rose cards available for trade ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:54:35 -0400 (EDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Content-Language: en I am just blown away right now. I saw Tom's post on my facebook, thinking this can't be right. Today was spent making sure I had no gremlins on the 58 set. It was less thank 2 months ago we were shaking hands in Baltimore. We talked a little about the divorce, as I have first hand experience in that area. I told him that time would pass and things would settle down. He said he was getting himself in a better place physically, had lost some weight and was beginning to move on to a new chapter in his life. I can't help but KNOW that this definitely took its toll on Chris. Talk about your quiet, unassuming regular guy. At the Nationals, I'd stop by whatever table he was working and shoot the shit for a while. I can't help but feel a little devastated. 39 years old? Damn that is way too young. Whatever you guys want to do once the dust settles, I'm in. We have such a great history of all the great things that happen with the people of this group, and every once in a while we get a day like this.He wrote that last blog the other day. And if memory serves me, Rob Gardiner was traded from the Yanks twice to Oakland for Felipe and then Matty Alou. It always sucks when we lose one of our own. This blows more because, like many of us, I had the chance to put cards directly in his hands. Now he has other hands watching out for him from above. I hope someone puts his "sewer" card in his jacket pocket. That exemplified OBC and he certainly was a great example of OBC at it's best. R.I.P. my friend... In a message dated 9/21/2012 8:56:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikesportsfan@aol.com writes: I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would sho w what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that wouldbe I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:04:25 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Couple of Chris pics.. Cleveland 2007- I'm sure I have others, I'll have to check the laptop... Baltimore 2012- at the swap ================= Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:07:53 -0700 (PDT) To: originaleek1@att.net, Wite3@aol.com, jd3681@yahoo.com, jwi62@hotmail.com, From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Sad indeed! I never had the chance to meet Chris. I did help him along with his 73 Topps project and we sent some cards to each other from time to time. He will be Tom and others interested, Topps produces cards from a variety of years fora decent price with your own photo. However they do not have the 73 set available at this time, 72 and 74 are there. Here is the link: http://topps.mytradingcards.com/ John Stamper --- On Sat, 9/22/12, Tom Housley wrote: From: Tom Housley Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: originaleek1@att.net, Wite3@aol.com, jd3681@yahoo.com, jwi62@hotmail.com, Date: Saturday, September 22, 2012, 6:42 PM I'd certainly be glad to design one. I wouldn't know who to go to to get it printed, but I'd be glad to do the artwork when I get back into town. I just read the horrible news about Chris about 10 minutes ago. I'm stunnedand saddened. He was a good guy, and I will miss him. -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: Joshua Levine ; jd3681 ; jwi62 ; obc-ramblings Cc: directorth Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 11:59 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like it, Josh! Since it would be Chris's Rookie Card I think it wouldcommand a premium. "we keep what we give away!" From: Joshua Levine To: originaleek1@att.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; jwi62@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: directorth@aol.com Sent: Sat, September 22, 2012 11:15:53 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Heck...I will take this one step further and I would BUY a card of Chris and we could use the money towards Andy's idea...a college trust for Melissa. -----Original Message----- From: EEK To: John E Dahms ; Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Cc: Tom Housley Sent: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 7:54 am Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I like the idea regarding the 73 set. Someone mentioned thatChris didnot have an OBC card, I was thinking that perhaps Jenny and Melisa would appreciatean OBCChris card in the 73 design. Perhaps the photo from theNational would be appropriate to use. Is this possible Tom? I bet the others in OBC would also like one. I know I would, and would certainly help to defraywhatevercost incurred. "we keep what we give away!" From: John E Dahms To: Joe Isaac ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, September 21, 2012 11:37:20 PM Subject: Re: FW: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news It is very sad. I never had the pleasure of meeting Chris but had thepleasue of trading with him numerous times. And also found numerous cards for his 73 blog set. I would like to make a suggestion to the powers that be in this group. And anyone else for that matter that wethink of putting together as many 73 topps sets and possibly put them on ebay with proceeds to go into a trust for his daughter. just a thought for the future Sent via my Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost Mobile Joe Isaac wrote: There is nice image of Chris on his blog page in front of a helmet from hisfavorite football team http://www.blogger.com/profile/04229983444919282224 and a few articles thatChris wrote that are on the Library page. I had the pleasure to meet Chris at the '04 and '07 National in Cleveland. I believe what Chris wrote in his blog intro as "an all-around nice guy" was very true. He will be missed. It always makes me sad when I update the bottom of the directory page. Joe Isaac Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:50:33 -0700 From: jwi762@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news To: jwi62@hotmail.com ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: cardclctor To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mikesportsfan Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:21 PM Subject: RE:[OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I too got a call from Chris' mother. My phone never rang, as the reception in the store is poor at best. When I checked my messages after work thinking they were from Stacey, my jaw hit the floor. I'm normally pretty verbose on this server, but even a few words escape me at the moment. I shared my room with Chris at the National. It seems like only yesterday that we were talking it up and having a good time. I also had the opportunity to spend a couple nights with his family during happier times when they were living inFlorida and the Patriots were playing in the Superbowl in Jacksonville that year. He will be sorely missed by this heartbroken OBC'er. Ken M Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. From : mikesportsfan Subject : [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a Nationalwith Chris and her mother. Many of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months away from occuring. Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris'1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a linkon the home page or directly atwww.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo!Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join (Yahoo! ID required) http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:21:14 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] sad news Wow, this is just stunning news. It's hard enough when it is someone you have traded with online, but to have this happen to someone so young, and someone I've engaged in hand-to-hand cardboard just less than 2 months ago, issimply a jaw dropper. My heart and prayers go out to his mother and daughter and I am on board for any way I/we can help. Saddest Regards, ================= Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:51:07 +0000 (UTC) To: mikesportsfan From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I am deeply saddened to read about this news. Chris was my introduction to OBC. On an internet search for a 1970 Topps scratch off checklist, I stumbled across his website. After a few emails, we exchanged some cards. Chris served as a sponsor on my OBC application, and as a mentor when I joined the group. I am honored to have met him at last years National, and happy to have had the chance to talk to him about the hobby. Thank you Chris for helping me get into this great group of ours. I will miss you. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "mikesportsfan" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 7:56:01 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Manyof us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet.They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would show what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months awayfrom Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net 54,pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following Chris'1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be appreciated. I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: Jenny Marcott 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:16:06 -0400 To: mikesportsfan , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news ================= Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:28:40 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shocking sad news Like all, I was shocked about Chris. I met Chris a few times at the Nationals. I had just had email correspondence with him last week, he asked for a card I had on a waiver wire. I sent out a package to him last Saturday. Bill Malson ---- biggies@aol.com wrote: > Yikes, that is a stab. I met with Chris in Jacksonville and twice at card > shows. What a great chuckle he had about cards and about life. I am sad to > hear about his recent sadness and wretched over his death. > A great guy.. > Cheers Chris. > In a message dated 9/21/2012 8:56:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mikesportsfan@aol.com writes: > I received a call today from Jenny Marcott. She is Chris Stufflestreet's > mother. Chris had a heart attack on Wednesday and passed away. For those who > never met Chris or were not aware of what was going on in his life, he was > in the midst of a nasty divorce. He has one daughter, Melissa. She is now > about 14, and had travled to many a National with Chris and her mother. Many > of us got to see her every year. Arrangements for Chris have not yet been > made, as the wife will not allow the body to be released to his mother yet. > They hope to have a service in Deer River, NY around October 27, if > everything works out. Chris had been living with his mother for a while now, and > except for not being able to see his daughter (she and the mother lived a > disance away) life had turned around for him. Jenny asked me to tell the > group how much his card collecting and the kinship from the group meant to > Chris. She said every time he received a package with cards, he would sho w > what he received from her, as if it was Christmas. > Jenny mentioned nothing is needed at this time, as I mentioned we could > help in some way. When things settle down in a month or so, we may revisit > this, such as some sort of scholarship for Melissa. A concern is giving the > money to the ex, would likely see the money disappear. I also said the group > could help in proper disposal of Chris' collection. She does not want the > cards sold to someone who would resell the cards for a profit. There is the > possibility we could do an auction of some of his stuff within OBC. Not > everything would need to be sold at once, so this could be something that > happens periodically. As stated, anything in this regard, is likely months > away from occuring. > Could those who are in some of the other groups with Chris, such as Net > 54, pass along the news of Chris' passing. If anyone has been following > Chris' 1973 Blog, if you can get the information there as well, that would be > appreciated. > I thought Chris was in the set of OBC cards, and had hoped to send one to > his monther, but I just went through the set, and he was not a part of it. > For those that have photos from the National, I know Jenny would greatly > appreciate receiving some photos of Chris with his card buddies. > If anyone would like to send a card to the family, the address is: > Jenny Marcott > 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE > St. Petersburg, FL 33702 > Not that I know much more at this time, but if anyone wishes to discuss > this, either e-mail me or call my cell: (248) 709-2235. > Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:50:24 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Thomas Elliott Subject: RE: Sad News Count me among those in OBC saddened by the news about Chris Stufflestreet.I never met Chris, but helped with the 1973 Topps baseball project and hadseveral envelopes come my way from him. I sent a few, too. I think the ideas about doing something for his daughter are excellent and would hope they come to fruition. I hope he rests in peace. Tom Elliott ================= Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:52:31 -0700 (PDT) To: biggies@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] stufflestreet I'd be willing to participate on such a committee. Mike Mackie From: "biggies@aol.com" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, September 22, 2012 3:23:50 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] stufflestreet I will miss Chris. He was a mentor of mine. When I didn't know or understand something I would ask him. He would kindly and without condescension guide me I have listened to the suppositions and the desires to "do the right thing"with his collection regarding its value and hoping to get it to his daughter butthe truth is that unless we have specific declarations, and we should, it is lost within the estate laws of that state. So, as I have suggested before if you want to protect the value of your collection and you want to direct said value to an individual you better say clearly in your will. Otherwise it is just part of your estate and ifnot defined the court will decide, without prejudice, where it will go. That said, I think we have the opportunity to create a platform that offers people the chance to find value in a collection. It would take time and effort but we could be there for every collector. It might be an internal collection Ebay but at least we could say, "Hey, if you want true values we have them." A team of 4-8 really dedicated players could offer the descendants family agood return on their grandfathers efforts. lets establish such a committee. It would protect my intersts. ================= Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 16:49:40 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: Stufflestreet's blog posts I read of Chris's passing. Very sorry to the family, and would love to help out when it comes to the collection. The info I've read says he passed away on Wednesday the 19th. His 1973 blog has a post on the 19th, but also on the 21st and 24th. His Vintage Sportscards blog also has a post on the 19th, and one on the 21st. I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NO DISRESPECT WHATSOEVER. But how is this possible? Were several editions already written and scheduled to be posted? ================= Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 13:52:17 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: Stufflestreet's blog posts I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NO DISRESPECT WHATSOEVER. But how is this possible? Were several editions already written and scheduled to be posted? Yes, bloggers can write and schedule any number of posts in advance, usually to fit the author's expectations for their readers. (I've done that occasionally myself.) ================= Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:59:15 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Chris pictures? Does anyone have any pictures of Chris they could send to me? I'm going to try & make a '73 Topps-style tribute card but I'm having trouble locating pictures of Chris. So far the only one I've found is from a National, where's he's sitting next to Gersh at a restaurant. One I'm particularly looking for is the one of him at age 13 or so, at his first card show. I know I've seen that picture but I can't locate it. If I can find that one, I can try to duplicate the 1973 Boyhood Photos Of The Stars, with a young Chris and one from present day. If you can help, send the picture(s) directly to me at directorth@aol.com. ================= To: , Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:03:17 +0000 From: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris pictures? Hello All, I am all choked up about this. But I recall and have somewhere a basketball card from the 90's which has one of our members on the on in the crowd. I think it was Chris? I know the member sent it to me on our first trade many years ago? Anthony Arbeeny General Manager HYATT REGENCY BETHESDA near Washington DC One Bethesda Metro Center, Bethesda, MD 20814, USA T: + 1 301.657.6441 F: +1 301.657.6440 E: Anthony.Arbeeny@hyatt.com [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:346163C9-96DE-406F-B40D-38B826305426] THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT: Please consider the environment before printing this Follow us on: [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:DC4663D3-FD69-4D81-827C-EBE71D808096] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:E5D5D447-4F32-488F-B662-407D5AF03F60] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:6F173D14-3489-4866-990B-E3AC0F4BF1B9] From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Housley Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:59 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris pictures? Does anyone have any pictures of Chris they could send to me? I'm going to try & make a '73 Topps-style tribute card but I'm having trouble locating pictures of Chris. So far the only one I've found is from a National, where's he's sitting next to Gersh at a restaurant. One I'm particularly looking for is the one of him at age 13 or so, at his first card show. I know I've seen that picture but I can't locate it. If I can find that one, I can try to duplicate the 1973 Boyhood Photos Of The Stars, with a young Chris and one from present day. If you can help, send the picture(s) directly to me at directorth@aol.com. The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 17:09:40 -0400 (EDT) To: anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com, directorth@aol.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris pictures? Content-Language: en I think that was ken goetsch at a milwaukee bucks game, but i could be In a message dated 9/24/2012 4:04:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, anthony.arbeeny@hyatt.com writes: Hello All, I am all choked up about this. But I recall and have somewhere a basketball card from the 90=E2=99s which one of our members on the on in the crowd. I think it was Chris? I know the member sent it to me on our first trade many years ago? Anthony Arbeeny General Manager _HYATT REGENCY BETHESDA near Washington DC_ (http://bethesda.hyatt.com/) One Bethesda Metro Center, Bethesda, MD 20814, USA T: + 1 301.657.6441 F: +1 301.657.6440 E: _Anthony.Arbeeny@hyatt.com_ THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT: Please consider the environment before printing this email. Follow us on: (http://www.facebook.com/hyattbethesda?refts) (http://twitter.com/Hyatt_Bethesda) (http://www.youtube.com/user/hyatt) From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Housley Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 4:59 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris pictures? Does anyone have any pictures of Chris they could send to me? I'm going to try & make a '73 Topps-style tribute card but I'm having trouble locating pictures of Chris. So far the only one I've found is from a National, where's he's sitting next to Gersh at a restaurant. One I'm particularly looking for is the one of him at age 13 or so, at his first card show. I know I've seen that picture but I can't locate it. If I can find that one, I can try to duplicate the 1973 Boyhood Photos Of The Stars, with a young Chris and one from present day. If you can help, send the picture(s) directly to me at _directorth@aol.com_ (mailto:directorth@aol.com) . The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:05:57 -0400 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: waiver wire I have a few extra Topps cards that I picked up at the show this weekend inRaleigh. Visited with Taylor Schock. We went on a recruiting mission of likely candidates searching the $1 bins (must have been looking for upgrades). Uncle Dick said to tell everyone hello and that he appreciated all of the kind words and support at this years national. Waiver Wire: a.. 1957 Topps #14, 43, 190, 253, b.. 1959 Topps # 57 c.. 1962 Topps #3, 11, 17 Please include address. Mark Holland Vintage List: ================= Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:52:54 -0500 To: smartalecx@aol.com From: John Leroux Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris pictures? ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:24:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Housley Subject: Chris 1973 Topps Hi guys, My first draft of a 1973 Topps card for Chris is attached to this e-mail, and also uploaded into the Photos section of the Ramblings Yahoo group page (in the folder OBC Cards). Let me know what you think. Should we try to make a version of the card back with Chris' bio? I can also try to make a "regular" 1973-type card. Someone mentioned a '55 Bowman version too. I'll need to look for a couple more pics, but they're pretty easy to do. ================= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:26:07 -0500 To: Tom Housley From: Doug Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps [1 Attachment] I love it! Sent from my iPad On Sep 25, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Tom Housley wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] > Hi guys, > My first draft of a 1973 Topps card for Chris is attached to this e-mail,and also uploaded into the Photos section of the Ramblings Yahoo group page (in the folder OBC Cards). Let me know what you think. Should we try to make a version of the card back with Chris' bio? > I can also try to make a "regular" 1973-type card. Someone mentioned a '55 Bowman version too. I'll need to look for a couple more pics, but they'repretty easy to do. > Tom ================= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 06:30:54 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps [1 Attachment] Very nice, Tom!A card-back bio would just tip this over the edge to fantastic. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] Hi guys, My first draft of a 1973 Topps card for Chris is attached to this e-mail, and also uploaded into the Photos section of the Ramblings Yahoo group page (in the folder OBC Cards). Let me know what you think. Should we try to make a version of the card back with Chris' bio? I can also try to make a "regular" 1973-type card. Someone mentioned a '55 Bowman version too. I'll need to look for a couple more pics, but they're pretty easy to do. ================= To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:45:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps [1 Attachment] This is awesome! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 6:29 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] Hi guys, My first draft of a 1973 Topps card for Chris is attached to this e-mail, and also uploaded into the Photos section of the Ramblings Yahoo group page (in the folder OBC Cards). Let me know what you think. Should we try to make a version of the card back with Chris' bio? I can also try to make a "regular" 1973-type card. Someone mentioned a '55 Bowman version too. I'll need to look for a couple more pics, but they're pretty easy to do. Attachment(s) from Tom Housley 1 of 1 Photo(s) ================= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 08:50:39 -0500 To: Glenn Codere From: John Leroux Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps ================= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT) To: Glenn Codere , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps Definitely need the bio. "we keep what we give away!" From: Glenn Codere To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tue, September 25, 2012 9:30:59 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps Very nice, Tom!A card-back bio would just tip this over the edge to fantastic. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris 1973 Topps [1 Attachment] Hi guys, My first draft of a 1973 Topps card for Chris is attached to this e-mail, and also uploaded into the Photos section of the Ramblings Yahoo group page (inthe folder OBC Cards). Let me know what you think. Should we try to make a version of the card back with Chris' bio? I can also try to make a "regular" 1973-type card. Someone mentioned a '55 Bowman version too. I'll need to look for a couple more pics, but they're pretty easy to do. ================= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:02:34 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Chris bio for back of card Here's what I came up with for the bio (actually, it was much longer, but Ihad to shorten it to make it fit): "Chris Stufflestreet was a well-loved and well-respected collector of vintage baseball, football, and non-sports cards, He was a member of Vintage Card Traders (VCT) and Old Baseball Cards (OBC). He also wrote about the hobby, for publications & on his blog. Chris vividly remembered his first-ever baseball card, a 1978 Topps #413 Reggie Jackson. Chris loved the hobby so much that he even set up as a dealer at a card show in 1989 when he was still a teenager. In his own words, from his OBC bio, =E2=9CIt was fun because I wasn=E2=99t there to make any money; instead I intended on improving my own collection=E2=9D. Chris was a long-time fan of the New York Yankees & Pittsburgh Steelers. He introduced collecting to his beloved daughter Melissa. He will be missed greatly by his family, friends, and fellow collectors." If anyone more poetic has any suggested changes, let me know. I can't really make the bio longer without squeezing the lettering down, but I can certainly ================= Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:47:27 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: I feel dirty..... Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guesscompleting that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:34:06 +0000 From: Subject: non sport needs Hello All, Any assistants would be helpful. I do have dupes in all sets but have not drummed up a dupe list yet. 1952 bowman presidents # 1,2,3,5,9,10,20,22 1956 Davy Crockett green backs# 1,2,4,5,9,10,35(upgrade to VG-),36(upgrade to VG-),38 ( upgrade to VG-) ,39(upgrade to VG-),44,45,46,47,54( upgrade to VG-),59(upgrade to VG-),61(upgrade to VG-), 1959 you'll die laughing #2,46,58 and 15 upgrade 1964 Addams family 1965 James bond thunder bolt 1966 batman -black on back -national periodocal publications#1,2,3,4,5,12,14,15,16,17,18,20,21,32,34,35,36,39 1967 garrisons gorillas 72 and up 1968 flying nun#2,13 1974 Evel knievel #2,4,9,11,16,22,25,32,34,35,37,39,41,42,54,55,56 1974 planet of apes #2 1974-75 marvel comic stickers Need: thing-1,hawkeye,goast rider,conan,dr doom,son of satan,spiderman-2, human torch-2,thor-2,dr octpus,medusa 1975 six million dollar man #42,58 1975 hysterical history #60 1976 happy days (blue) 1976 happy day stickers# 12? Not sure if it goes to 12 1976 king kong with 2 each ** #1,4,6,27,48 1976 king kong with 1 each* #3,12,14,18,29,30,33,35,37,41,43,44,47,55 1976 king kong any style #7,24,31,47,48,53 1976 star trek With one * #1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,11,12,16,17,18,21,23,25,26,27,29,30,35,40,42,44,45,46,49,50,52,53,55,56,64, With two ** #3,5,10,12,13,15,17,19,22,24,25,26,28,29,32,37,38,39,40,44,45,46,48,50,51,52,54,57,58,59,61, 1977 star wars stickers With one *#19,21 With two** #6 1977 charlie angles stickers With one* #1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,23,24,27,29,32,34,38 With two ** #25,27,32,34,35,36,37,39 1977 charlies angels in any condition: With 1 each* #18,129,143,150,157,159,162,166,169,171,177,179,180,182,187,third series- 193,195,208,231,233 with 2 each ** #20,43,56,57,58,59,61,62,66,69,74,75,78,82,85,89,95,102,107,110, 175,176,178,179,180,185,184,185,186,187, third series- #188,197,201,202,207, 1977 charlie angels any condition and any card second set series 1& 2 (set 1-121)#65,97,103,120,121 1978 grease.(pink)#39 1976 Welcome back kotter (ex) #,3,5 Second set#27, mork and mindy(ex) stickers #4,5,17,22 Anthony Arbeeny Anthony Arbeeny General Manager HYATT REGENCY BETHESDA near Washington DC One Bethesda Metro Center, Bethesda, MD 20814, USA T: + 1 301.657.6441 F: +1 301.657.6440 E: Anthony.Arbeeny@hyatt.com [Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:346163C9-96DE-406F-B40D-38B826305426] THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT: Please consider the environment before printing this Follow us on: [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:DC4663D3-FD69-4D81-827C-EBE71D808096] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:E5D5D447-4F32-488F-B662-407D5AF03F60] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: cid:6F173D14-3489-4866-990B-E3AC0F4BF1B9] The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:23:54 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: A question for the sages of OBC While trawling the web this lunchtime, I came across an image of a "Card The Never Was".....a 1971T Tony Horton. And that got me wondering..... Does anyone know the story as to why Horton never appeared on a Topps card?Was he simply one of those guys who didn't sign a contract? If so, is there any insight as to why? Horton's story certainly seems an interesting one. A decent ballplayer who seemingly was unable to cope withpressure and stress, although looking back with more enlightened eyes its more likely that he suffered from some sort of debilitating mental disorder, and the absence of a compassionate support Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:57:27 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: OBC Meet-Up SO CAL I am back home in Southern California this past weekend for my #40 High School reunion. Last night Peter Iversen, John Stamper, and myself met at JoshLevines house and had a swell time! Great to see Peter and Josh again and to meet John for the first time. Had the pleasure of seeing Josh's collection including the binder full of "rare" stuff, and then we piled into my rental car for a great meal at a local spot Josh picked out. Of course we exchanged cardboard and in what is becoming a regular occurrence, my wantlist grew instead of shrinking! Had a GREAT time fellas! Guru Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:11:51 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: OBC SO CAL ================= To: , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:17:44 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... My advice is to buy a $500 card, then the $130 won't seem bad at all. Maybe a t206 Cobb? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:47:27 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guess completing that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:24:09 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SO CAL [1 Attachment] You guys look like a reformed 1980s rock band!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Larry Tipton To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:11 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SO CAL [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Larry Tipton included below] Guru Josh John Peter Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:26:33 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Maureen would either kill me or divorce me........and I'm not sure which would be worse!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Mac Wubben To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... My advice is to buy a $500 card, then the $130 won't seem bad at all.Maybe a t206 Cobb? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:47:27 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guesscompleting that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:34:57 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "jimbo777777" Subject: 1967 Topps Glenn's post got me to looking through my '67 binder, and thinking about it. Definitely one of my favorite sets. I finished it up just as the internet was becoming a factor.....searching obscure news groups for that Ollie Brown! It must have been hell to be a Mets fan/collector that year. ELEVEN of theMets 29 cards that year were high numbers!!! ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:47:42 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: Chris pictures? His Facebook profile has some pictures you could probably use. https://www.facebook.com/chris.stufflestreet?refts ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:48:04 +0000 (UTC) To: Glenn Codere From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... I agree with Mac. And don't stop with just one high priced card, buy a few. Then, the Seaver will really feel like a bargain (which it seems like it is) T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Codere" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:26:33 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Maureen would either kill me or divorce me........and I'm not sure which would be worse!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Mac Wubben To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... My advice is to buy a $500 card, then the $130 won't seem bad at all.Maybe a t206 Cobb? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:47:27 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. :-S worried Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guesscompleting that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:12:47 -0400 (EDT) To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A question for the sages of OBC Content-Language: en tony was one of my favorite indians and all i can remember is he used to squeeze the bat so tightly that you could see sawdust coming out the knob. only lasted a year or two, but i am sure i have an autographed photo of him Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 9/26/2012 9:24:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: While trawling the web this lunchtime, I came across an image of a "Card The Never Was".....a 1971T Tony Horton. And that got me wondering..... Does anyone know the story as to why Horton never appeared on a Topps card? Was he simply one of those guys who didn't sign a contract? If so, is there any insight as to why? Horton's story certainly seems an interesting one. A decent ballplayer who seemingly was unable to cope with pressure and stress, although looking back with more enlightened eyes its more likely that he suffered from some sort of debilitating mental disorder, and the absence of a compassionate support structure. _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:17:50 -0400 (EDT) To: tvalacak@comcast.net, glenncodere@yahoo.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Content-Language: en dont listen to tj he is better at getting money out of my wallet than my wife! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 9/26/2012 12:48:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tvalacak@comcast.net writes: I agree with Mac. And don't stop with just one high priced card, buy a few. Then, the Seaver will really feel like a bargain (which it seems like it is) T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm From: "Glenn Codere" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:26:33 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Maureen would either kill me or divorce me........and I'm not sure which would be worse!! _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) From: Mac Wubben To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... My advice is to buy a $500 card, then the $130 won't seem bad at all. Maybe a t206 Cobb? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:47:27 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guess completing that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:22:59 +0000 (UTC) To: Smartalecx@aol.com From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... I'm not going to lie, I have had some fun twisitng Gary's arm to add to hiscollection. 51 Bowman's, 52 Bowman's, 52 Topps high numbers. It's been fun. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Smartalecx@aol.com To: tvalacak@comcast.net, glenncodere@yahoo.com Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 1:17:50 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... dont listen to tj he is better at getting money out of my wallet than my wife! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 9/26/2012 12:48:08 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tvalacak@comcast.net I agree with Mac. And don't stop with just one high priced card, buy a few. Then, the Seaver will really feel like a bargain (which it seems like it is) T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Codere" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:26:33 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Maureen would either kill me or divorce me........and I'm not sure which would be worse!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Mac Wubben To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... My advice is to buy a $500 card, then the $130 won't seem bad at all.Maybe a t206 Cobb? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:47:27 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. :-S worried Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guesscompleting that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Housley Subject: Chris - card back OK gang, here's my first crack at the back of the tribute card for Chris. Imade the text white so it was a little easier to read than the standard black on the '73 set. It's also in the Ramblings "Photos" section, in the same folder as all of the other ones. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:40:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Housley , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris - card back [1 Attachment] Excellent Tom, I particularly like the idea of 1972-2012as the card number! "we keep what we give away!" From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 26, 2012 3:23:17 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris - card back [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] OK gang, here's my first crack at the back of the tribute card for Chris. Imade the text white so it was a little easier to read than the standard black onthe '73 set. It's also in the Ramblings "Photos" section, in the same folder asall of the other ones. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:01:42 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris - card back [1 Attachment] Nailed it, Tom. Great job!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:22 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris - card back [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] OK gang, here's my first crack at the back of the tribute card for Chris. Imade the text white so it was a little easier to read than the standard black on the '73 set. It's also in the Ramblings "Photos" section, in the same folder as all of the other ones. ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:01:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Housley , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Mackie Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris - card back [1 Attachment] Great job Tom! Thank you. Mike Mackie From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, September 26, 2012 2:23:17 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Chris - card back [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] OK gang, here's my first crack at the back of the tribute card for Chris. Imade the text white so it was a little easier to read than the standard black onthe '73 set. It's also in the Ramblings "Photos" section, in the same folder asall of the other ones. ================= To: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:09:12 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Re: I feel dirty..... Seaver rookie at $130 seems pretty good. He's been on my list for over 30 years, because I'm not able to remove more than $50 from my special-security wallet at any one time. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:24:54 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John E Dahms Subject: Re: Chris - card back ================= To: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:39:24 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Mickey Mantle Book by Jane Leavy FYI I just finished The Last Boy, a 1980 best seller on Mantle. I would recommend it, if you haven't read it already. As a young, female sportswriter the writer, like many others, was chased around by Mantle. She interviewed hundreds of people including those in the memorabilia business: TS O'Connell, Sy Berger, Rob Lifson, Bert Sugar and others. It paints a pretty sad, but believable picture of the problems of sudden celebrity, good looks, fan worship, alcoholism, and self-indulgence. Nothing is held back. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:42:15 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: RE: Mickey Mantle Book by Jane Leavy Ops! It was a 2010 best seller. I'm not that far behind on my reading. From: George and Susan Vrechek [mailto:vrechek@ameritech.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:39 PM To: 'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com' Subject: Mickey Mantle Book by Jane Leavy FYI I just finished The Last Boy, a 1980 best seller on Mantle. I would recommend it, if you haven't read it already. As a young, female sportswriter the writer, like many others, was chased around by Mantle. She interviewed hundreds of people including those in the memorabilia business: TS O'Connell, Sy Berger, Rob Lifson, Bert Sugar and others. It paints a pretty sad, but believable picture of the problems of sudden celebrity, good looks, fan worship, alcoholism, and self-indulgence. Nothing is held back. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:30:37 -0400 (EDT) To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Content-Language: en Think of it this way Glenn... That card will be with you forever. The 15 pints that it cost you, you only rent :-D ! Besides, that card is on my list too, so there will be 2 of us who will be just as unhappy LOL.. In a message dated 9/26/2012 5:00:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guess completing that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:41:55 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Chris Pics Chicago 2005 If anyone can create a Chris folder and drop these in there, that would be Chicago 2005 My first Greenie ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:50:48 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Chris pics Chicago 2011 ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:52:14 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... 15 pints??? Sal, my friend, you need to find a cheaper bar to drink in!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "ChicoD1@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Think of it this way Glenn... That card will be with you forever. The 15 pints that it cost you, you only rent :-D ! Besides, that card is on my list too, so there will be 2 of us who will be just as unhappy LOL.. In a message dated 9/26/2012 5:00:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: >Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laidout the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. >Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guesscompleting that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. >Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? >Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music >Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:56 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Chris pics Cleveland 2004 ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:57:33 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Chris Pics Cleveland 2007 ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:53:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: finally home from work and can write about last night I wanted to take a moment to write about the OBC get together at my house last night. John Stamper, Peter Iverson, and Larry Tipton came over for somecards, conversation, and dinner. Larry used to live relatively close to me in the EARLY days of OBC. We had not seen each other in probably 15 years but it was great! First off, let me say that my wife Tiffany was nervous...she was worried that our little crazy beagle mix would bite one of the guests. She need not have worried...Zoe was well behaved after some initial barking and really seemed to warm up to John as she kept bringing him her toy to play with. Just shows that OBCers can win over even the scariest of little dogs! I showed off some of my collection incl. much of my phillies stuff from 1887-1935. They also got to see a new T205 binder. I then let them go through my dups box and pick out whatever was needed. Hopefully everyone got some needed or fun stuff. Also pulled out the original OBC directory that was printed on PAPER and an original OBC photo gallery that incl. Larry!! Both those were circa 1990-1ish. I was also handed a stack of ARCO Phillies which are always welcome incl. Bunning and some 53s from Larry and a nice stack of cards incl. a 71 Super Kaline!! from John. Thanks so much guys. Let Larry drive us to dinner down the street at a little bar/restaurant/microbrew...good food and a great waitress (hi Kelly). Dinner was great, the company was fantastic and it was my sincere pleasure (as well as Tiffany...who now wants to go to dinner with us next time!) to open our house to everyone. So much fun! Thanks again everyone! PS the pic. Tiffany took is great!! Thanks for sending it over Larry! ================= Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:00:00 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I feel dirty..... Content-Language: en Tom Seaver is from here in Fresno. I just paid $4900 for an air conditioner in Fresno. You should always make sure you pay some money here and there for things you do not have to have and be glad you have the money to do so. Good job and enjoy it. It was a "terrific" purchase <<< see what I did there. That is as clever as I get. Randy Welk In a message dated 9/26/2012 5:00:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: Hmmmm.......not sure if I should celebrate or hate myself. I've just laid out the most I've ever spent for a single card, by far. Just picked up the '67 Seaver RC from Kevin Savage Auctions for $130. It was definitely the toughest of the remaining '67s on my list, so I guess completing that set suddenly becomes a real possibility. Still, I'm probably not as happy as I should be. That's a stupid amount of money for a piece of cardboard. Remind me why we love this hobby so much? _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) ================= Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:56:58 -0400 To: elliottt61@yahoo.com, From: Larry Tipton Subject: "Mettle Tester" To test ones "mettle" means to be prepared to put ones spirit or courage tothe test. Todays mail brought a box of cards from Tom Elliott, stuffed with 267 hits to my newly expanded wantlist. Included was one card meant to test my mettle. 1970 Topps number one card in the set Len Dawson. Ink additions to this card include scribbled jersey number, John Lennon glasses, an ink drawn beard that SF Giant Brian Wilson would be proud to wear, and of course an added hair style that I actually wore myself in the mid seventies. Thanks for the "test" Tom, but this beauty now resides in its honored placeas the first card in line for my 1970 Topps football set. And #001 on my 1970 Topps football wantlist has been removed. A valiant and courageous effort Tom, and one that has been tried again and again since 1991. But Guru collects cards in ANY and I mean ANY condition! ================= Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 14:36:12 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: '72/'73 Topps hockey - 1 left. Any heroes? After my recent eBay win arrives, I will be down to needing just 1 card formy '72/'73 Topps hockey set: #79 Guy Lefleur Does anyone have an extra? You will be immortalized on my wantlist as a hero! I'm hoping to get one in no less than VG-EX shape, with no creases. (I know that's OBC heresy, but what can I say.) I'm also trying to finish upgrading the set, so I need any of these with nocreases as well. But the Lefleur is the priority: 002 Playoff game 1 016 Gerry Meehan 024 Jacques Plante 029 Wayne Cashman 047 Steve Atkinson 064 Goals Against Ldrs. 097 Jim Rutherford 119 Terry Harper 123 Brad Park AS 136 Barclay Plager 137 Gilles Villemure 141 Alex Delvecchio 151 Gary Edwards 160 Ken Dryden 163 Gary Sabourin 165 Ed Giacomin If & when Mr. Lefleur arrives, this will be only my 2nd completed hockey set. Tom Housley ================= Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:24:13 -0400 To: Tom Housley From: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '72/'73 Topps hockey - 1 left. Any heroes? Went to the Philly Show today and with an offer of immortality in return how could i not look for this???? Got it! Comin ur way... Matt Yudt Sent from my iPhone - please excuse any typo's On Sep 29, 2012, at 10:36 AM, "Tom Housley" wrote: > After my recent eBay win arrives, I will be down to needing just 1 card for my '72/'73 Topps hockey set: > #79 Guy Lefleur > Does anyone have an extra? You will be immortalized on my wantlist as a hero! I'm hoping to get one in no less than VG-EX shape, with no creases. (Iknow that's OBC heresy, but what can I say.) > I'm also trying to finish upgrading the set, so I need any of these with no creases as well. But the Lefleur is the priority: > 002 Playoff game 1 > 016 Gerry Meehan > 024 Jacques Plante > 029 Wayne Cashman > 047 Steve Atkinson > 064 Goals Against Ldrs. > 097 Jim Rutherford > 119 Terry Harper > 123 Brad Park AS > 136 Barclay Plager > 137 Gilles Villemure > 141 Alex Delvecchio > 151 Gary Edwards > 160 Ken Dryden > 163 Gary Sabourin > 165 Ed Giacomin > If & when Mr. Lefleur arrives, this will be only my 2nd completed hockey set. > Thanks! > Tom Housley ================= Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 21:10:26 -0700 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Ed pike Subject: Camden Yards Heading home from a quick trip to Baltimore, did not have time to look around but did get to take a look at the ballpark as I was right there. A very cool downtown stadium and the similarities with SF were very striking. (I sent this sept 15 but it has been stuck in my outbox) Ed Pike ================= Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:57:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Joe Adriance" Subject: Low grade 1952 and 1956 Topps on ebay Was just killing some time on eBay and came across a seller, Andy6771, witha bunch of low grade, low starting bid, free shipping 1952 topps singles including Rizzuto and Berra. Also had a bunch of big lots of low grade 1956topps. You can search for sellers in the advanced search section. Hope this is of interest to some of you, good luck. Also I'm bidding on the 1952red Sox randy gumpert, just saying! Joe Adriance ================= Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:18:19 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jake Elwell Subject: Waiver wire: 93 Rockies yearbook Have a copy of the Inaugural edition of Colorado Rockies yearbook - 1993 - anyone want it? --Jake ================= Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:01:35 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: 72 topps hi and semi hi numbers available FT hello, I am down to a dozen for the completion of my 72 set....all hinumbers of course... I have some semi hi #'s and hi #'s that I would like to offer up for trade hopefully for help for my 72 list. thanks and let me know 72 topps needs 560(rose IA) 677(Ivan Murrell) 696(Carew IA) 698(Koosman IA) 702(Jose Pagan IA) 712(Bobby Bonds IA) 715(Mike Epstein) 720(Sam McDowell) 724(Curtis/Hinton/Scott) 735(Diego Segui) 750(Willie Horton) 763(Ron 72's available for trade 581 588 602 609 611 613 634 635 654 663 674 705 711 737 753 767 787 all of these are in ex and better. let me know and thanks John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/