================= Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:32:58 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "joedenning71" Subject: New OBC Logo I vote for version 2. The plate background really makes the design pop outat ================= Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:11:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "joedenning71" Subject: New address in VA I have updated my new address in the OBC. LaShelle and I will be in the house on 15 August. I will also post it here: Joe Denning 609 Quail Crossing South Chesterfield, VA 23834 LaShelle and I can't wait to get settled in and back to itting OBC lists!! Thanks again for everyone's support and hospitality!! ================= To: "'tjv815'" , Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:15:45 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A trip to Boston, Turning 40, and a new house Welcome to Boston! Unfortunately, on the 7th I am headed to Wash DC ;-( Enjoy your trip. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tjv815 Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:08 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A trip to Boston, Turning 40, and a new house There is a lot going on in the Valacak house. After 2 1/2 years on and off the market, my wife and I finally sold our house. We will be closing on August 17th, but will not be in our new home until August 20th (assuming everything goes fine). I will update the directory with my new address as soon as we close everything out here on the 17th. I am also turning 40 in a few weeks! For the last few years, I have told my wife that all I want to do to celebrate is go out to Boston and sit on the monster. So, that's what we're doing. Although the trip will be brief due to having to be in Delaware for a family wedding on the 10th, my wife and I will be heading out to Boston on August 7th. We have a game to see that night, then will see the game on the 8th on top of the Monster! I can't wait. Although the trip will be brief, if any of the OBC Bostonians will be at either game, please let me know. So, we have a lot going on. In between our trip out to Boston and Delaware from the 7th to the 12th, we will be packing everything up. Again, happy hunting to all in Baltimore! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5166 - Release Date: 07/30/12 ================= To: , Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 09:49:48 -0400 From: Subject: 1981-82 Topps Basketball help HI Everyone I thought that this set 1981-82 Topps Basketball set was complete but it isnot, I=E2=99m missing the following cards, any help would be greatly appreciated. 8 Sobers 10 LaGarde 11 Issel 32 Bobby Jones 82 West Kyle Macy Thanks in advance for checking Nick Covello ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , OBC Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 11:06:45 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: You had better sit down... Mr. Steve Rittenberg has dropped a truly unbelievable card on me...not, just cool, amazing, kind, generous...but a real...you can't even believe it...Turkey Red T3 Ty Cobb. Yeah, that's right folks...read that again! I haven't quite made it to the national yet...leaving in a couple minutes...but it's all downhill from here ;-) What can I even say? I'm completely blown away. Hopefully I can find a way to give back to Steve and the group. WOW! Rittenberg is Awesome! ================= Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:04:45 -0700 To: Mac Wubben From: Erik & Leticia Greenwood Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] You had better sit down... HOF stuff Steve! Gotta love OBC. Erik Greenwood Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:06 AM, Mac Wubben wrote: > Mr. Steve Rittenberg has dropped a truly unbelievable card on me...not, just cool, amazing, kind, generous...but a real...you can't even believe it...Turkey Red T3 Ty Cobb. Yeah, that's right folks...read that again! > I haven't quite made it to the national yet...leaving in a couple minutes...but it's all downhill from here ;-) > What can I even say? I'm completely blown away. Hopefully I can find a way to give back to Steve and the group. > WOW! Rittenberg is Awesome! > Mac ================= Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:19:28 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] You had better sit down... That's definitely a jaw-dropper!! --- On Wed, 8/1/12, Mac Wubben wrote: From: Mac Wubben Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] You had better sit down... To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "OBC Thanks" Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2012, 10:06 AM Mr. Steve Rittenberg has dropped a truly unbelievable card on me...not, just cool, amazing, kind, generous...but a real...you can't even believe it...Turkey Red T3 Ty Cobb. Yeah, that's right folks...read that again! I haven't quite made it to the national yet...leaving in a couple minutes...but it's all downhill from here ;-) What can I even say? I'm completely blown away. Hopefully I canfind a way to give back to Steve and the group. WOW! Rittenberg is Awesome! ================= Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 22:44:28 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Great news & terrible news The last 2 days have been an emotional roller coaster for me. Well, to be honest, the last 6 weeks have been an emotional roller coaster. Six weeks ago, the 3 of us in the TV commercial production department were pulled into a meeting. There are 2 producer/editors (one being me), and a videographer. We were summarily told that three brand new jobs were being created: Videographer/Producer/Editors. That our jobs were ending as of August 3rd. And that we were free to apply (and be interviewed) for the "new" jobs (which were almost exactly like our current ones, although with the added titles, it's as if they were designed to specifically exclude us). Just like everyone off of the street. Our 16, 16, & 28 years of experience there meant absolutely nothing. Our relationships with our commercial clients meant nothing. Lynnette, the other producer, got fed up , left, & got a new job. The videographer & I went through the degrading & insulting interview process - a month ago. Hadn't been told a thing since then. Then today, I getsummoned into a meeting; I'm told "I've decided not to offer you the position. But if you want to, you can stay until August 31st." Just to add insult to injury. I'm very seriously leaning toward just leaving on Friday afterall. After 16 years, 8 regional Emmy nominations, 2 Emmy wins, and severalawards from the national Children's Miracle Network, I've been told that I'm not good enough or qualified enough to do the exact job I've been doing. The irony - on Monday I received a call from the CEO of Children's Miracle Network Hospitals. He told I'd been nominated for, and awarded, the Television Person Of The Year award - a national award. (That's the peak of the rollercoaster). Funny how a person who can receive such an award isn't qualified to keep his own job. They've promised us severance - although whenever we've asked for the exactterms in writing, we never get them. I suppose that's good. But here I am,at age 50, with experience & expertise in a field that doesn't have a lot of job openings, about to be set adrift by a company I've busted my rear end for, after 16 1/2 years. They're sleazy, unethical, and underhanded. Sorry for the long ramble, but right now I'm an emotional wreck; I guess I'm reaching out to you guys as my collective shoulder to cry on. Any HR experts - or employment attorneys - out there that can offer any advice? Thanks for listening. ================= Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 17:01:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Housley , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great news & terrible news First of all congrats on the Television Person Of The Year award! Too Cool! As regards your employer I assume that you are/were an"at will" employeeandcan be let go without cause.Companies oftenuse the type of tactics thatyou describedas a way of reducing payroll, i.e. letting salaried employees go and bring new hires in at a much lower salary.They alsoreduce or eliminate benefits for new hires. Several weeks ago we were told that retirees would no longer be part of theBCBS group plan and were on our own to findhealth insurance. I'm fortunateto begetting Medicare and canget a MediGap planthat is reasonable. My wife however had to buy an individual plan that is very costly and has a $5,000 deductible. Bummer! It's good to have people with which we can commiserate. Thoughts and prayers out for a turn of fortunes for you and yours! Earl"we keep what we give away!" From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, August 1, 2012 6:46:21 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Great news & terrible news The last 2 days have been an emotional roller coaster for me. Well, to be honest, the last 6 weeks have been an emotional roller coaster. Six weeks ago, the 3 of us in the TV commercial production department were pulled into a meeting. There are 2 producer/editors (one being me), and a videographer. We were summarily told that three brand new jobs were being created: Videographer/Producer/Editors. That our jobs were ending as of August 3rd. And that we were free to apply (and be interviewed) for the "new" jobs (which were almost exactly like our current ones, although with the added titles, it's as if they were designed to specifically exclude us). Just like everyone off of the street. Our 16, 16, & 28 years of experience there meant absolutely nothing. Our relationships with our commercial clients meant nothing. Lynnette, the other producer, got fed up , left, & got a new job. The videographer & I went through the degrading & insulting interview process -a month ago. Hadn't been told a thing since then. Then today, I get summoned into a meeting; I'm told "I've decided not to offer you the position. But if youwant to, you can stay until August 31st." Just to add insult to injury. I'm very seriously leaning toward just leaving on Friday after all. After 16 years, 8 regional Emmy nominations, 2 Emmy wins, and several awards from the national Children's Miracle Network, I've been told that I'm not good enough or qualified enough to do the exact job I've been doing. The irony - on Monday I received a call from the CEO of Children's Miracle Network Hospitals. He told I'd been nominated for, and awarded, the Television Person Of The Year award - a national award. (That's the peak of the rollercoaster). Funny how a person who can receive such an award isn't qualified to keep his own job. They've promised us severance - although whenever we've asked for the exact terms in writing, we never get them. I suppose that's good. But here I am, at age 50, with experience & expertise in a field that doesn't have a lot of job openings, about to be set adrift by a company I've busted my rear end for, after 16 1/2 years. They're sleazy, unethical, and underhanded. Sorry for the long ramble, but right now I'm an emotional wreck; I guess I'm reaching out to you guys as my collective shoulder to cry on. Any HR experts - or employment attorneys - out there that can offer any advice? Thanks for listening. ================= Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 02:51:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "tjv815" Subject: Frank Thomas update Hey gang, I received a letter from Frank in today's mail. Although he seems to be ingood spirits, both Frank and his wife are suffering from some health issues. His wife has pancreatic cancer, and the outlook is very bleak. He has asked that we in OBC keep his wife in our thoughts and prayers. Frank himself had his second hip operation in March, exactly one year after his first operation. He is recovering slowly, but has been able to start playing a few holes of golf again. Frank is currently working on a 2012 Topps HEritage set and is in need of a few short prints. I will post his list on the uvserver, and if anyone is able to help, let me know. ================= Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:51:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Housley , From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great news & terrible news I have been going thru some of the same emotions you are going thrucircumstancesa little different butsimilar. This may be your dream job and if so sorry for that. I'm going to be 50 in a couple months and alittle over a year ago I quit my job as a garbageman after 20 years to do something else that I might enjoy for the rest of my working days compare to working a "job". I took a year off was fortunate enough to be given unemployment by the city to get me off the payroll so didn't have to find a job right away. But you do go thru thatroller coaster, who wants to hire a 50 year old man-are the bills going to get paid-whats my future going to be like. I am fortunate to have asupportivewife that has a goodjob to aloud me to try different things. I have been working for the post office delivering your puffies for the last 3 months kind of enjoy it but don't think I'll stick with it. I'm starting something different nextMondayto see if I'll enjoy that more. Yes I have been scared but also glad to have theopportunityto maybe find something that I'll be really happy with. Hope you find that middle ground so you have peace for what lies ahead. Not alotof good advice here but you have to believe everything happens for a reason and that another door will open and it will work out in the end. Rick From: Tom Housley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 3:44 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Great news & terrible news The last 2 days have been an emotional roller coaster for me. Well, to be honest, the last 6 weeks have been an emotional roller coaster. Six weeks ago, the 3 of us in the TV commercial production department were pulled into a meeting. There are 2 producer/editors (one being me), and a videographer. We were summarily told that three brand new jobs were being created: Videographer/Producer/Editors. That our jobs were ending as of August 3rd. And that we were free to apply (and be interviewed) for the "new" jobs (which were almost exactly like our current ones, although with the added titles, it's as if they were designed to specifically exclude us). Just like everyone off of the street. Our 16, 16, & 28 years of experience there meant absolutely nothing. Our relationships with our commercial clients meant nothing. Lynnette, the other producer, got fed up , left, & got a new job. The videographer & I went through the degrading & insulting interview process - a month ago. Hadn't been told a thing since then. Then today, I getsummoned into a meeting; I'm told "I've decided not to offer you the position. But if you want to, you can stay until August 31st." Just toadd insult to injury. I'm very seriously leaning toward just leaving on Friday after all. After 16 years, 8 regional Emmy nominations, 2 Emmy wins, and several awards from the national Children's Miracle Network, I've been told that I'm not good enough or qualified enough to do the exact job I've been The irony - on Monday I received a call from the CEO of Children's Miracle Network Hospitals. He told I'd been nominated for, and awarded, the Television Person Of The Year award - a national award. (That's the peak of the rollercoaster). Funny how a person who can receive such an award isn't qualified to keep his own job. They've promised us severance - although whenever we've asked for the exactterms in writing, we never get them. I suppose that's good. But here I am,at age 50, with experience & expertise in a field that doesn't have a lot of job openings, about to be set adrift by a company I've busted my rear end for, after 16 1/2 years. They're sleazy, unethical, and underhanded. Sorry for the long ramble, but right now I'm an emotional wreck; I guess I'm reaching out to you guys as my collective shoulder to cry on. Any HR experts - or employment attorneys - out there that can offer any advice? Thanks for listening. ================= To: , Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:16:03 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Best day ever!?! Probably should at least mention my wedding day, but to follow up the t3 cobb from rittenberg...mike rich follows it with a babe Ruth....33 goudey babe ruth...I must be dreaming! Wow and wow! ================= To: "'Mac Wubben'" , Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 21:23:23 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Best day ever!?! Mac, go and buy a lottery ticket.....................right now! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mac Wubben Sent: August-01-12 9:16 PM To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Best day ever!?! Probably should at least mention my wedding day, but to follow up the t3 cobb from rittenberg...mike rich follows it with a babe Ruth....33 goudey babe ruth...I must be dreaming! Wow and wow! No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5170 - Release Date: 08/01/12 ================= Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:53:58 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Best find at the show... Need I say more? ================= Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:53:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Richard Labs From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: 1980-81 Topps basketball List Hello All, Someone asked for an `80-81 Topps B-Ball list. I have attached a PDF with the information. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------ MARK ================= To: "Mac Wubben" , OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:00:00 +0000 From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Best day ever!?! Wow! I guess drinks are on you tonight! Take Care, Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Mac Wubben Sender: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:16:03 To: ; Subject: [OBC-Thanks] Best day ever!?! Probably should at least mention my wedding day, but to follow up the t3 cobb from rittenberg...mike rich follows it with a babe Ruth....33 goudey babe ruth...I must be dreaming! Wow and wow! ================= Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 06:55:14 -0700 (PDT) To: EEK , OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Short List - Long Shot Well, I guess I need to unlist my short list!Several days ago Itold my wife that I was going to get serious aboutcompleting the 58 autographed Tigers set. I did not tell her aboutthe email (below) that I sent out Tuesday.YesterdayIstumbled across the factthat my wifemade an ebaypurchase from Supreme Collectibles.Since she did not mention that to me Iwas suspiciousand did an online search discovering that Supreme Collectibles has a baseball card ebay store. My natal day is Sept. 7th so I think you get the picture.At any rateI need to withdraw my request to National attendees. hoping that I can cross a few 58 Tigers offthe list on September 8th.Thanks apologies to anyone who has taken the time to look forthe cards. "we keep what we give away!" From: EEK To: OBCRamblings Sent: Tue, July 31, 2012 3:47:30 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Short List - Long Shot I knowit is rather unlikely, however if anyoneruns acrossany of the following 58 autographed cards I would be very interested in purchasing them. This was project that my son and I started in 1988 and despite the odds against, I would very much like to complete it. I am sure that the more time that passes themore difficult it will be, so there is a certain urgency at this point. Cost & condition are not major issues, I will gladly pay any reasonable price maybe even slightly unreasonable.Not sure how to work out payment details, perhaps if I had contact info for the dealer I could work it out. Any help is 1958 TOPPS TIGERS that I am seeking with autographs: #32-JW Porter,46-Lou Sleater, 154-Harry Byrd, 245-Frank Lary, 309-Gail 337-Hank Aguirre, 345-Jim Hegan, 365-Tom Morgan, 448-Charlie Lau, 463-Vito "we keep what we give away!" ================= To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, "Mac Wubben" , Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 23:17:26 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Best day ever!?! Having just arrived I'll drink to that idea!!! Regards ------- Mark Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Sender: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 11:00:00 To: Mac Wubben; ; Reply-To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Best day ever!?! Wow! I guess drinks are on you tonight! Take Care, Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Mac Wubben Sender: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 00:16:03 To: ; Subject: [OBC-Thanks] Best day ever!?! Probably should at least mention my wedding day, but to follow up the t3 cobb from rittenberg...mike rich follows it with a babe Ruth....33 goudey babe ruth...I must be dreaming! Wow and wow! ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 07:41:28 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Thur Report SWA airlines non-stop JAX to BWI $15 van ride to Fairfield Inn and I'm in my hotel at 11AM. Toss carry-on bag on bed and I'm off to my third National.15 minute walk through beautiful downtown Baltimore and I'm in the lobby where I text Sal and he supplies me with a badge and I'm in. Spent some timewith Sal and Kent and said hi to my old friend and dealer Roger Neufeldt. Met many OBC members that I have known only via Internet for 20 years and great to meet all in person. Of course everyone is handing me cards, and I will post thanks later. I did manage to walk down every aisle of the show and stopped at a few tables no big purchases yet so exciting to be here. I did buy a 1954 Dan Dee Frank Thomas for $20 this is one of three SP in this set. It's quite overwhelming seeing all these cards. Had lunch in the venue with old friend ChrisStufflestrret Sal Kent and new guy Taylor Shock. Mark Mike Mac Steve Joe Greg Kevin Ken and anyone else thanks for the memories. After the show had anice dinner with the gang at an Irish Pub and I call it a night. This AM Ineed to belly up at the free breakfast and utilize the elliptical here in the workout center before I walk back to the show for day 2. Really lookingforward to the day ahead Baltimore seems neat Nd of course all my OBC brethren!!! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:55:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Off topic - are there any attorneys in the group? HI guys, Sorry for this non-card post - but.... If you read my Ramble from earlier in the week, you know I'm about to lose my job. If there are any attorneys out there, could you please e-mail me? I'm about to go in & receive their severance offer, but I'm hoping to find alegal mind to look it over before I sign anything. Thanks, & I hope I haven't offended anyone by posting this request. Tom Housley ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 10:19:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Larry Tipton Subject: Terry Woodd Does anyone have ex OBCer Terry Woods phone number text me 9043189372 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 10:27:19 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: 1980-81 basketball separated cards I bought a large group of 1980-81 separated cards. Anyone want some? Checklist migt be available for whole and/or individual cards. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:37:28 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Koufax Rookie Table 2441 across from PSA kith Koufax rookie $50 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 16:58:15 -0400 To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Cut in half double play at the National Cheap cut in half DP at booth 1005 Sent from my iPhone ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:08:41 -0400 (EDT) From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: A First Time, and not the last Hey Folks, I guess this is my first Ramblings, sort of a Thanks wrapped into it. First off, went to the National on Thursday only. Got in Wednesday night and left Friday early morning. A beautiful trek from Dayton to Baltimore. Anyhow, I was fortunate enough to get the days off work, as my schedule was a toss up for the past month or so. Ken Morganti and Chris Stufflestreet werekind enough to respond to my announcement of attending the show, and quickly offered me a spot in their room for cheap. Had they not done that, I would not have been able to afford to go. Thank you two very much. Second, I arrive down in the Convention Center, and am greeted by the freakin' Rambo of us all, Ken Morganti. What a trooper, he had his 15 month old daughter, SOLO, and she was a gem the whole trip!!! ( 99% of the time. hey,she's 1 ). So I'm at my first National, first year of OBC, and first time meeting some of the guys. I'm ushered into the lobby, and about a dozen or more men in white OBC hats turn around, shake my hand, and start shoving large bundles of cardboard in my pockets. I don't know who the heck gave me what, but I received 80 hits to my 75's and a bunch more 40's thru 60's stuff. My God, I felt like I'd just "been made" in 1940's mafia, where all the Dons shove wads of cash in your coat pockets on initiation night or something.Except here I was, "The New Guy" or at least one of them, and I'm already meeting some of the original founding members of the club!!! I don't know who put what in my hands and pockets during my short stay, but to all whom I've met during the tour, Thank You Very Much, and I WILL GET YOU BACK!!! I got the pleasure of spending some time with 4 or 5 members one on one, learning about baseball and old cardboard, but also, and more importantly, them. What a splendid and phenomenal group of people in this group. I thought the OBC concept and trading core values were the greatest thing since slicedbread, but to meet the men who bring it all together and recognize our brotherhood is magnificent. To say the least, I am blessed to have found this group, and the people in it. You all are wonderful human beings, and make the world a better place 1day at a time, 1 person at a time, 1 trade at a time, every day, ALL the time. Thank you. Now for the fun stuff, and I'll try to keep it quick.....* Sal Domino is a chick magnet. *Chris Stufflestreet knows more about the 73 Topps set than Ido about my own job. *Ken Morganti likes to hit you first. *If you don't do lottery, you should, and Mac Wubben should pick your numbers. *Nick Pelletier is quite possibly the friendliest person I've ever met in my life. *Ron Perry will navigate your way through the twisted highways and biways of the metropolis, in the dead of night. *Mark Talbot makes me want to move to Michigan so my kids can go to his school. *And Larry Tipton, the Guru, is not a myth. He's the real F***in' deal. I wish I say do more right now, but with one day at the show I was only able to connect with the members on a personal level so much. But I do know ALL that I met, made my trip worth while, and a real treat. It was a blast. In closing, I have to point out that Mark Talbot arrived to the pub we wereeating at, came in and began assaulting everyone with cardboard. He threw mine right at my face. Like a freakin' Chinese throwing star. Just the way I liked it. When I opened it, the best card was a "Tipton" 52 Topps hit, AlSima. It was mostly one card, and was a real beater. Looked like it was ina war, house fire, and safari trip. and my highlight of the whole trip::::Larry Tipton gets ahold of my newly acquired 52 beater, scrutinizes it, admires its flaws, and wait. . . . . . you guessed it. He verbally and officially grades it a "Tipton Mint 10" ! This is confirmed by all present at thetime. I felt so great, yet so guilty for some reason. I think because, here I am, new, first national, first time meeting the members, (other than Tom Housley and Ken Pillion) and I get to meet Guru. Others had their first time too, yet they'd been in the group a decade or more. Guess that's how itis when everyone lives so far apart. OK, that's all I've got, thank you for reading. And safe travels to everyone doing so this week. Wes Shepard ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 23:19:29 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: My first National trip (part two) ...by Kyleigh Morganti Hi again everyone, Daddy is typing out this e-mail because he's a slightly better speller than I am. Anyway, I think I left off my story on Wed. morning, the first day of the show. Daddy and I took the train into town and got there at just about noon when they started to hand out the VIP badges. We waited nearly forever or a half hour - I can't tell time and finally got our stuff. Daddy said I get in free because I'm cute, but he needs a badge. We had a little time to kill, so we walked around the skywalk at the Inner Harbor. It was pretty neat. Then I told Daddy I was hungry, so we stopped in this Hooters place to eat. Daddy enjoyed the scenery, but I know I was the prettiest girl in there. It was Wingsday Wednesday, so Daddy got a platter of wings and curly fries. I got a grilled cheese with still more curly fries. Daddy also got his first cards at the National - it was part of a nine card set of Hooters girls. I'm not supposed to tell Mommy about it though. After we ate, we headed over to the Convention Center where it was almost time to get into the big card show. We stopped in at the VIP reception and Daddy forced down a slice of pizza just because it was free he said. I got a cookie that I ate some of and smeared the rest on the seat and the floor. After the show, we went to a restaurant across the street. I thought Daddy's friends were going to sit and talk out near the street for the rest of the night, but after a loong wait, we finally went inside to eat. By now it was way past my bedtime and I can get pretty grumpy. Daddy tried to give me some of his mac and cheese and his lemonade, but all I wanted to do was get back to the hotel into bed and I didn't care who knew about it. I was asleep before my head hit the pillow, but I think Daddy stayed up a little while longer to swap a few cards around. I think I dreamt about Daddy getting a 1956 Clemente... or maybe Daddy had a dream about it and told me. I'm not quite sure. Daddy says to check the thanks server (whatever that is) in a couple days and you'll hear all about it. Thursday we got up early to call Mommy and wake her up so she could get to the airport and get to Atlanta for her vacation/national conference. After Chris left to go to the show, I took another nap to catch up on my sleep. Daddy took me to the show when I woke up. We walked around looking at silly cards for hours, but Daddy didn't buy too much - only three Kellogg's cards (I like their cereal and their Pop-Tarts, but their cards taste yucky). One of the 3 cards he bought just as the show was closing. Daddy met up with a lot of his friends at the show and met a bunch of others for the first time. All of Daddy friend's met at the entrance to the show and headed over to another Irish grill. I'm half Irish you know, so I felt right at home. We had a ham wrap and some fries, plus some yummy chicken fingers. We left early this time, so I could get to bed at a reasonable hour. We stopped at the food store and Daddy got me some more juice boxes and Powerade. Daddy says you need to stay hydrated walking around looking for cards. What's hydrated mean? Daddy stayed up to swap some cards with Wes Shepard, Bob Reed and Mark Talbot but I was too tired and uninterested to stay up and help. Today (Friday), we headed into the big city a little earlier than yesterday, probably around 11, which I can't count to yet. All this walking around looking at cards gets pretty boring, so I took a couple naps. Both times I woke up at the same table and Daddy was buying more cards there. He says they're were really good deals there - 90% off, which is like paying 10%, only better I think. Daddy bought a bunch of Red Man cards for his collection. I think they should make Red Girl cards, so I can collect those. After the show all of Daddy's friends met up at the entrance again. The National has their "$3M Black Swamp find", but Guru showed us his 'MOOF swamp find' from an album that had all the cards in the bottom row soaked and moldy from a flood or something - yucky. Today OBC split up into a few different groups for supper. Some went to the Net54 dinner, some went to a place called the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company and Daddy I went upstairs from that place back to Hooters with Sal, Kent, Bob Reed and Mike Rich. After dinner, Mommy ca lled to say she had her phone stolen, so Daddy had to take care of that and we went back to the hotel soon afterwards. Daddy stayed up to update his near impossible to hit list to make it totally impossible to hit. It was a long day for me, so I fell asleep in the car on the way back from the train station. Daddy says it's going to be another big day tomorrow - some OBC swap session thing he says I shouldn't miss. I hope they give me some cards to rip up or at least throw around. Bye for now, ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 00:43:44 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Idle thoughts Sitting here in Baltimore in the wee hours of Sat. morning with nothing better to do... Judging from the length of Wes Shepard's last transmission, I think something may have rubbed off on him from rooming with me and Chris. Steve kidded me on the length of my wantlist the other day, saying he copied it onto the back of a postage stamp - a sharp contrast to the length of my e-mails. I just realized if you take away second sets and variations, the list is eight cards long: a T205(Joss), three Post SP's (Adair, Yaz, Aspromonte), and 4 FB cards (61F Brown + Maynard and 63F Bouniconti + Dawson) I coulda sang better than that guy at Tir Na Nog (the bar & grill we ate at yesterday). What's wrong with those Olympic archers? Those bows they use have all those guides, levels, sights, a tripod and everything but a laser ...yet the best shot I saw them take only hit the middle ring on the bulls eye. My daughter has a meltdown when we even go near one of those changing tables, never mind when I try to put her on one. I wish I could figure out why. I need to get some shut eye before I fall asleep on my laptop and short out the keyboard. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 07:05:06 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Guru Friday National Report After free breakfast and 60 minutes on the elliptical trainer, I arrived atthe show just after 10. Ed Schott met me with a dealer badge, and we are in. First thanks to everyone who has given me cards including Mark Mike KentSal Taylor Mac Steve Lynn Steve and Richard prob forgot someone thanks to all details later. I went through Uncle Dicks and Roger Ns bargain box and knocked off some early Bowmans. Came to realize needing stars and semi stars my days of .50c cards are over. Also I am going to take the advice of Mike and Steve and expand my wantlist:) down to 17 cards 62 Post football but found out they areall SPs:( Completed my 66 Batman blue bat puzzle back set even though I overpaid at $3 a card. So I wandered around all day kept running into Bob Reed at bargain bins:) Got a text from Steve Rittenburg asking if 53 Bowman Billy Cox was still needed, it was , and Steve presented me with the card that completed that set for me. Thanks Steve everyone here is so-generous it just blows me away. 4:30 and I need a break so I sit down with a cup of coffee catch up on Words with Friends and after a short break back on to the show floor for some more action until closing at 6. And that is when it happened. The "2012 Sewer Find" Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 07:46:24 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Larry Tipton Subject: 2012 Sewer Find So there has been a lot of talk here of the Black Swamp Find. Found in an attic in Ohio, and these cards are on display here and they are impressive. *start press release* Dateline 5pm Baltimore. I have just returned from my coffee break and I'm looking through some cards when a customer walks up to this dealer and triesto sell him a binder of cards. They start negotiating and I'm staying close thinking if dealer doesn't buy them maybe old Guru might get a shot at them. Well dealer buys binder for $250 and I move closer for a look. Full binder of VG cards but one slight problem. The previous owner must have storedhis collection in the bathroom or maybe the floor of the basement, becausethe cards in the 7 8 and 9 positions in the plastic sheets ( lower row) are all damaged wet sewer soaked toxic smelly molded or should I just say right up my alley:) So I tell dealer guy I'll buy all the cards in the 7 8 and9 positions for 10c each and the deal is struck. A price adjustment had tobe made when Mr Mantle Mr Mays and Mr Aaron started to show up, so the price adjustment was $30 for all. Here at Guru Industries cataloging and grading is proceeding at a frantic pace in my hotel room, but here is a rundown of the 2012 Baltimore "Sewer Find" 54 Bowman 2 55 Bowman 4 Kueen error 55 Topps 4 57 Topps 4 58 Topps 13 Clemente Brooks Mantle AS Aaron AS 59 Fleer Ted Williams 6 59 Topps 2 60 Leaf B Robby 60 Topps 15 incl 9 HI # 61 Topps 36 Mays AS Twins Team and 5 other HI #s 62 Topps 5 63 Fleer 4 63 Topps 12 64 Topps 6 75 TCMA 1927 Yanks 15 *end press release* CNN interview scheduled for 11AM Fox News at noon all times EST Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 08:42:07 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Where are my relatives like this _Honus Wagner, Ty Cobb Baseball Cards Found In Attic Sell Big At National Sports Collectors Auction (VIDEO)_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/honus-wagner-ty-cobb-baseball-cards_n_1735636.html?icid=maing-grid10|htmlws Except I'd be still poor cause I wouldn't of sold them ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:47:54 -0500 To: Tom Housley From: Doug DeJong Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great news & terrible news Tom and all - I hate to hear that. In a way, I am on the other side of the fence right now. Our health system has brought in consultants who have helped show us how 'overstaffed' we are in almost all areas. We have been charged with taking out $100 million dollars in expenses, and since half of all hospital expenses are people (and many of the rest like supplies and utility are hard to cut), a group of 'teams' were put together to figure out how. I have had the pleasure of leading one team, and in complete secrecy we have had to figure out where we can cut. It is almost done, so every day I am working with folks knowing that they will not have a job soon, but they have absolutely no idea it is coming. Senior leadership has to approve the details and there is a lot of uncertain even about my role. It is a tough, tough environment out there and I empathize with the 'emotional roller coaster' you have been feeling. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Tom Housley wrote: > ** > The last 2 days have been an emotional roller coaster for me. Well, to be > honest, the last 6 weeks have been an emotional roller coaster. > Six weeks ago, the 3 of us in the TV commercial production department were > pulled into a meeting. There are 2 producer/editors (one being me), and a > videographer. We were summarily told that three brand new jobs were being > created: Videographer/Producer/Editors. That our jobs were ending as of > August 3rd. And that we were free to apply (and be interviewed) for the > "new" jobs (which were almost exactly like our current ones, although with > the added titles, it's as if they were designed to specifically exclude > us). Just like everyone off of the street. Our 16, 16, & 28 years of > experience there meant absolutely nothing. Our relationships with our > commercial clients meant nothing. Lynnette, the other producer, got fed up > , left, & got a new job. The videographer & I went through the degrading & > insulting interview process - a month ago. Hadn't been told a thing since > then. Then today, I get summoned into a meeting; I'm told "I've decided not > to offer you the position. But if you want to, you can stay until August > 31st." Just to add insult to injury. I'm very seriously leaning toward just > leaving on Friday after all. After 16 years, 8 regional Emmy nominations,2 > Emmy wins, and several awards from the national Children's Miracle Network, > I've been told that I'm not good enough or qualified enough to do the exact > job I've been doing. > The irony - on Monday I received a call from the CEO of Children's Miracle > Network Hospitals. He told I'd been nominated for, and awarded, the > Television Person Of The Year award - a national award. (That's the peak of > the rollercoaster). Funny how a person who can receive such an award isn't > qualified to keep his own job. > They've promised us severance - although whenever we've asked for the > exact terms in writing, we never get them. I suppose that's good. But here > I am, at age 50, with experience & expertise in a field that doesn't havea > lot of job openings, about to be set adrift by a company I've busted my > rear end for, after 16 1/2 years. They're sleazy, unethical, and > underhanded. > Sorry for the long ramble, but right now I'm an emotional wreck; I guess > I'm reaching out to you guys as my collective shoulder to cry on. > Any HR experts - or employment attorneys - out there that can offer any > advice? > Thanks for listening. > Tom ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:54:26 -0400 To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: 1959 Mantle #10 $50 Uncle Dick has a 1959 Mantle #10 with writing on the front $50 Please phone if onterested Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:41:57 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Saturday National Report Im kind of in a daze this morning after what transpired during last nights trading session, but I'll try to give an accurate recording of events. Got up Saturday and after free breakfast and 60 minutes on the elliptical and a shower I arrived at the show in my now sweat soaked t-shirt and Steve R let a group of us in the show. I don't get far when I see a group of OBCers hard at work in some bargain bins so I join right in. Searching through these boxes of cards I finally realize what OBC has been telling me for 5 years. I need to expand my wantlist! I discovered that this week, because every time I score a nice group of cards off my wantlist, Ican't pull out a twenty for payment, it's gotta be a hundred dollar bill. My wantlist is stars semi stars and SPs and they just cost more. Really had fun today just walking around and bumping into OBCers all day, and trying to decide what direction I should go with my collection, and I'm drawn to those 50s 60s 70s football cards and non sports sets. So when I get home I'm really go all in with this and develop my wantlist. Got a text from Sal who was with another one of the original members I havenever met David Hornish. Had a too short but great visit with Dave how canI describe a friend I have known for 20+ years but never met? Bought a handful of 60s Fleer football cards hey these are cool ( and cheap) also pulled the trigger on one of the short printed short prints I neededfor my 62 post football set that cost me $46. Really I'm keeping my eye onthe time and 6pm as we transition to swap session 2012. After the show, Joe Adriane drove Bob Reed and myself over to the Red Roof Inn and the pizza is waiting. We start a sort of shrine of OBC condition cards and let me tell you there are some real beauties here. One funny story somehow over the years I acquired a 1952 Topps Hoyt Wilhelm cut in two and missing some of the card as well. So I lay it down at the shrine and Bob Reed tells me that is his rookie card and also a needed 52 hi number. At one time I guess I knew that, but anyway that card disappeared off the shrine into Bobs collection. Anyway the swap session was everything I imagined and south more. The generosity of these friends is really overwhelming. I may be the first OBCer to attend a swap session where a wantlist increased rather than decreased. I like these football cards problem is I don't know what year they are 70 Topps nice next thing you know I have a nice stack of them and also some Bowmanfootball cards then some Fleers then some Phil then more Topps. It was unreal, and by the end of the night I am now collecting football cards. ALL ofthem! Later Steve starts me out with these plank size basketball cards andthese are too cool kinda always liked them so it looks like basketball tooand I may have a hockey future. I bet I have 1000 cards here it is unreal. Can't forget to thank Kent for a big stack of 52 53 54 red man I am collecting them now too some story booklets and scratch off games thank you thank you. You'll die Laughing Flags Jets from Steve and its all so overwhelming. One thing I need to buy today are a couple of 900 count boxes to carry this stuff home. I guess that's a nice problem to have right? One thing thatsurprised me was my jaeger doubles box found some takers and Mike R found a 48 Nowmsn football card I had with a pruning error that we need to followup with as I have several of these in my collection. After midnight I'm exhausted and got a ride home with. Mark and his friend can't remember his name thanks. One more day at the show. I am tired of digging through bargain bins for hits to my wantlist and after half hour draw a blank. Today I hope to find some cheap football basketball hockey and baseball so I can have maybe some trading stock. Oh yes and a couple of boxes to pack this stuff up! Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 08:47:23 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Larry Tipton Subject: Spelling Errors Sorry about that last post this phone has a mind of its own:) Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 11:05:27 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Sun In Show Report Football cards 50s 60s VG-ex $1 each plus 70% off so .30 each bought at least 150 cards. Also bought a 1960 Mantle hi # AS nice for $34 Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:14:59 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: "Woburn, Ma National" Not to be outdone by you guys in Baltimore, I went to Woburn this morning just to try to pick up some 2012 inserts, and to get out of the house. I got 2 nice '53's, a real nice '52, '59 AS Turley.. all for $1 each. I also picked a 1980 Reggie for 10 cents! How can you beat that? I finished my 2012 series 1 base set, and I have one question... What the heck are these? Ok, 2 questions... anyone need them? Alright, 3... is $1 each good? Sean of the North ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:25:53 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: 2012 National "Sewer Collection Find" Pictures ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:27:22 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Larry Tipton Subject: 2012 National "Sewer Collection Find" Picture ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 21:11:04 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Hotel Room Photo ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 22:34:01 -0400 To: OBC National , From: Larry Tipton Subject: Sun show and final report After last nights trading session, I woke up exhausted. Skipped my morning workout, ate breakfast and was in the show at 10AM. Greeted inside by Steveholding a Knute Rockne All American card that he said I should buy since Ihave this new love of everything football, yes sir! Don't know who runs the booth at the next stop, but they have very nice cards marked $1 $2 each with 50% off well today it's 70% off! With my new love of everything football and everything non-sports I can't resist these 50s and 60s cards at .30c each I'm buying several hundred. OK time for a breather and I buy 4 600 count boxes to pack all these cards that I now love and get them home. Well now my backpack is full and these cards that I now love are each in Card Savers and I'm getting a backache and it's only 11:30 AM! So I hike back to my hotel to unpack, and I'm back in the show at around noon. Walked around a bit, but the place to be is the 70% off table. Steve is there waving a 59 Topps Mantle AS he got cheap and pointed me to a 1960 Mantle AS for $34 after discount yes sir! Then I find the .50c bin so with 70% off I buy all they had several hundred more. Then on to non sport cards that I also now love Flying Nun Combat Garrisons Gorillas weird ohs Vikings Star Wars orange Funny Valentine Power for Peace Gomer Pyle Navy Zorro Kiss and more footballcards that I now love. Next stop is the 2012 "Sewer Find" guy as I know hewas holding some more of these beauties in reserve. He tells me come back at the end of the show and he will give me the rest of the "Sewer Collection" yes sir! Then back to the 70% off guy and I find the .25c bin but had a lot of 80s style but I picked through and did find some 60s cards that I now love so much and bought them all. Tried to work a swap with another dealer trading the 60 Mantle AS I bought for a couple of Post cereal FB short prints which I friggin hate but couldn't put together a deal. Said a few goodbyes and it appears that I might be the one to turn off the lights so to speak. So one last stop you guessed "Sewer Find" guy so he invites me behind the table and there they are scattered all over the floor. So I scoop up every moldy 9 pocket plastic page, say a quick prayer for my health, and say goodbye to "Sewer Find" guy. Discovered I am a 5 minute walk to "Little Italy" from hotel, and I had an outstanding late lunch. Pulled the "Sewer Find" cards from the toxic plastic pages and spread them out on the carpet to dry. 156 more cards but I got most of the hi numbers in part one. Put on my gym clothes and did 60 minutes on the elliptical while watching the Olympics. I've removed all the Card Savers from these cards I now love and will spend a couple hours sorting and packing them up. My flight leaves for home at 4 something tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for making this a real great experience, but of course Iexpected that. I officially retire my annual NASCAR trip to Las Vegas, andclose with "See You Next Year in Chicago"! Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:16:23 +0000 From: Subject: Nationals Hello All, First of all...I had a Grand time meeting all that could make it on the weekend, trading during the show and at the swap and finishing some sets... Finished: 1959 Topps with a mantle push from Steve Rittenburg,1979 burking set from Mark T,1977 Star wars stickers from Ken & Taylor,1961 fleer from Andy pulling from his set,1966 opc topps, 1963 Topps, 1967 Topps FB, 1978 Topps , 1981 Hoops and done to one for the Grease set, Flying Nun & Globetrotter grey backs Thanks to the following in no special order and apologize in advance if I missed Mac W. for killing my 66 opc set with the mays and palmer along with a bunch of T cards and more than =BD my 65 opc needs. Taylor S. for starwars stickers and 74 opc chips Bob Reed for 71 opc chips with a Carew& High card Brian B. with a 65 chip Richard D. with a 65 opc high Ken Pillion for 65 Brock & boone RC Steve H. for a 55 all American HOF Sal for a fingers 75 mini and 73 opc chips Mark T for a 57 Upgrade and 2 needed 59 strikes with a Robinson Goto for a 60 fleer Gehrig Larry T. for cards but lost track... Lynn Miller found a way with 2 each 52 bowmans and a 53 bowman hit Ken M. with a star wars sticker feast At the 5 hrs swap on Sat. with lots of carbs thanks to all including Bob & mark for all the boxes and give as always. Steve Rit. Went all out as usually and just loaded everyone up including meet on every level and started the 74 pioneer set. Thanks for Sal , & Steve for the point people along with Mark to organize the meeting and badges. For keeping your eyes out for deals. 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Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:47:45 -0700 (PDT) To: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , From: Chris Stufflestreet Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-National] Best find at the show... I was standing right next to him and never heard a single complaint from Sal. Check out my Blogs: 1970s Music Mayhem - http://70smusicmayhem.blogspot.com/ Vintage Sportscards - http://thevintagesportscards.blogspot.com/ 1973 Topps Set - http://1973toppsphotography.blogspot.com/ From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: ChicoD1@aol.com; OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 1:04 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-National] Best find at the show... Stephanie was a real treat and kept on getting friendlier with each picturewe took of her and Sal. We had to have at least 5 pictures because we did not "snap" good pictures the first 4 times. Are we just bad photographers or were we just helping Sal out??? Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-National ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 12:54 am Subject: [OBC-National] Best find at the show... Need I say more? ================= Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:51:37 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Superman 1940 Gum Inc #1... I'm a little short on cash after the National and can only chip in $20 towards this card. Can someone provide a short-term loan for the balance? http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId230833137645 Sent from my iPhone ================= To: Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 18:50:48 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Post-National ramblings Well, I must say the Bal'mer National was a success! I had a great time in meeting and kibitzing with all the OBCers that were on the list the National list (minus those that could not make it, of course). I actually got to meet everyone even though I was not able to spend as much time with some as I would have liked, and maybe too much time with others (JUST kidding). It was also nice to be showered with cards upon meeting but even nicer to be able to spread some cards around as well. (Thankses to be coming later). I can't remember what I ended up passing out, and in some cases I may only have been able to provide token hits, but I think I was able to at least give some kind of help to all but 2 Ks. Ken Morganti, who needs to follow guru's last day feeding frenzy example and add some more sets (I'm sure Kylie could use some), and Kent Goto, who I may have been able to help but LIED to us all by saying he wasn't coming (and then showed up anyway, good for him and us). I arrived about 1 PM on Wednesday, but couldn't check in to my OBC quality hotel until 2 PM since I was told they had been full and were still cleaning the rooms. So I drove around the blocks a few times trying to find streetparking at OBC prices. Failing that, I parked in a nearby garage for the rest of the day after unloading my car. Luckily that night after the show, Iwas able to get my same free parking space that I had in 2010 for the National. Such luck that I didn't dare move my car until I left on Sunday. As soon as I got checked in and unloaded I packed my backpack and headed tothe show. I ran into a few OBCers (at least Sal and Ken, but a few others as well) who handed me cards, and reaching into my backpack and digging around after saying "I have something for you", only to realize I left the gift box with the cards back at the hotel. OK, I'll get them passed out tomorrow. Somewhat embarrassed, but only to compound that the next day with Ken by saying I had something for him and digging through the gift box 3 times only to realize that I did NOT have something for him. He told me no problemand luckily Kylie was there or he would have said what he really thought. (By the way Ken, you need to add more sets). I bought a few things the first day but can't remember what, which became arecurring theme. Shamed in my first attempt to fit in, I slinked back to the hotel, ran up the street for a cheese steak, and secured myself back in the dungeon plotting my comeback. (OK, while technical NOT a dungeon, it seems to be an appropriate name for the room. When requesting a ground floor room, with the intent of my better half being there and her not having to do stairs, I was given a "ground floor room". The problem was, that after climbing about 8 steps to get to the first floor lobby, I then had to climb DOWN a flight of stairs to get to my room. I was extremely grateful for the automobile replacing the horse, otherwise the stoop and walk-up of brownstone and row houses, with their purpose in design to keep out all the post-rain horse crap from running into the buildings, would have made my room truly smell like a dungeon. But I digress...) Thursday saw a new day and a chance at redemption, so this time thrice-checking my gift box, I set out again for the show. More deals, more cards, more haggling (you got to haggle), more buying, more OBCers to meet and confuse their names. With a meeting for lunch, a rousing "8-pint-worth-of-rounds"of happy birthday (minus the 8 pint rounds, though who could tell), I sat down with a few OBCers to regale in fine cuisine and stories of card conquests including the great Black Swamp Finds 1 and 2, though I must say that guru's find #2 was a bit "blacker" and "swampier" than find #1. Most went todinner at Tir Na Nog after the show, where we dined on such fine Irish food like Rueben's, French Fries, crab soup, quesadillas, cheeseburgers, and salads. Not sure what anyone else ate. Friday more of the same during the day. That was by NO means a BAD thing! The highlight of the day though, while digging through some cards, I SWEAR Iheard Kylie say that daddy needs to add more sets. After the show, 6 of uswent to the Net54 reception for dinner. I propose that free food and drinks embodies the spirit of OBC dining. In a moment of irony, the Becketteers where there touting their services and I won a gift certificate for card grading. Sadly, and after repeated requests, I will not be getting any cards from the BS #2 find to send off to Beckett for grading. Dang guru and his PSA Saturday, something a bit different during the day. I looked at cards. Wait... no. Hmmm... OK, pretty much the same as Friday. But Saturday night was the swap (thanks for the ride, Steve). My first time. The night I became...A Man! (OK, technically some might call giving and receiving cards swapping, but it's not really "swapping". I guess it depends on the definition of"swap". Also, Talbot throwing cards at you does not qualify either if there is no penetration and the card doesn't stay lodged in your skin.). Anyway, with nervous trepidation and my meager box of dupes (helping Steve load his car full of HUGE boxes gave me "swapper's envy"), I downed a couple of slices of pizza for courage and started digging in. Oh man, cardboard never felt so good! (Editor's note: Please tone down these comments for content and attempt to keep this G-rated) OK, Bottom line, It was a great time! And I hope those that actually lookedthrough my stuff found something they could use. For the next one, I'll make sure to work out in an attempt to pump up my volume. Sunday, the last day, dealers packing up early. In some respects for me though, a VERY productive day. After many attempts and requests for Franco Harris RCs (to finish that set), I asked Danny Phillips a second time (I THOUGHT I already asked him) and he said he had a few. I looked strangely at him(easy for me to do) and said I thought I asked you on Thursday and you didn't have any. He said I did and he didn't. He just picked up a few (along with another huge stack of cards) and the first one he showed me fit right in (and at the right price) so I finished that set. An actual GOAL I had forthe National and accomplished! Another, which I basically gave up on after Thursday, was a Clemente RC. All of them were WAY to nice (translate, expensive) so I thought that-was-that and got on with searching for other things. But I did find one on Sunday and this dealer DID want to deal so I ended up picking it up. Another National GOAL accomplished! A big tip-o-the-cap to my better half and OBC on this on this one. After calling her to check in and chatting about things in general, and my hemming and hawing about getting it or not getting it. We talked quite a bit on thephone while I was trolling the aisles at the show all week (I'm sure a number of you saw me on the phone), and at one point she told me she felt likeshe was there, and with how good of a time it seemed I was having (I was) when I was talking to her. I think she was really psyched for me to get it and encouraged me to go for it. Thanks to OBC for the comradery and Kathy for the support. Oh yeah, she also said that she thinks Ken should start a few more sets. A number of other good buys during the entire show with quite a few breaking the 5% rule. A '57 Ashburn for $3, where you have to look very closely tosee the crease the length of the bat (he's positioned to bunt), a $3 '57 Maz RC, a $2 '55 Agganis RC, and a $1 '57 Yogi Berra. All of these were fromdealers who deal with graded, higher end cards. I've found that while the OBC friendly deals ARE OBC friendly, those dealing in slabbed stuff (or higher end cards) will really blow-out their OBC style cards at even better prices since they generally don't "deal" in this stuff and may snub their noses at it. It just requires some digging. On Sunday while watching a dealer's booth for him, I saw an OBCer digging through what turned out to be the 70% off cards (where guru started a bunch of non-sports sets like Gomer Pyle, McHale's Navy, etc, something Ken should do). Then another showed up, and a few more (don't remember who was first, etc). I was on the phone and started laughing (in a GOOD way). Kathy asked what I was laughing at. I told her it was like when you turn off the circulator pump in our koi pond, they start swimming around, coming to the surface, then you throw in the food and watch the feeding frenzy. Oh yeah, I went over shortly and joined in. :) For those still there on Sunday, some last discussions and farewells around. A very enjoyable few days with a safe trip back (with the usual, NorthernVA delay), which I hope all had. If anyone had even half the enjoyment I had, then it was a great time. Hope to see you all again next year, or sooner. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:40:29 -0400 (EDT) From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: The Nationals Hi all, I had a great time. It's been 6 years since my last National but as soon asI saw some fimilar faces it felt like it was yesterday. I ran into some old friends like Sal and Kent, Ken with his adorable baby girl. Mike and Mark, Steve and Chris (Who was helping out a dealer this timearound) .and Greg and his son Wade, Bob R.I meet some friends I seen at other venues like Ant (Always good to see you Ant)and I made some new friends like JoeA, Brian B, Andy C, Joe D., Bob D, Nick P., Taylor S, Ed S, Guru himself and I was one of the first to see the sewer collection,( its a must for all OBCers), Mac W, and Matt Y. The Show was great running in OBCers every where, I did miss seeing a few while they were at the show, like Steve H, (Thanks for the cards , Mark handed them to me) I will mail yours out to you and sorry that Pete and Tom could not be there and Tom you were in our thoughts at the show. I also brought a friend a long , my friend Mark Gilmore, you may see him asa prospect soon, and he fit right in with the group, It was good to see. It was a great show, Good eats after and the swap was great some cards wereflying through the air..smile, overall just a great time. I would like to thank a few guys for some cards handed to me at the show Mike Rich - some 1964 Coins Taylor Schook - some 1972 Topps Upgrade Mark Talbot - some Mets cards Steve Rittenberg - 1954/1955/and 1956 cards Sal D - a 1951 Bowman Kent Goto - 11 1965 embossed and a 1954 Topps (I owe you big time) JoeAdriance - a 1954 Topps Len - even though he was not there he sent me a card - a 1952 Topps Black. Richard Dingman - a 1955 Topps Mac Wubben - a 1951 Bowman, 2 1952 Bowman, 1 1962 Post Steve Hitzeman - a 1962 Topps Jim Craig - 1 1954 Bowman and 2 1955 Bowman Andy Cook - 3 1960 Fleer Brian Betza - 1 1952 Topps, 1 1955 Bowman, 1 1962 Post, 1 1956 Topps If I missed anyone let me know and Thank you to all of you for a great time!! See you all next year in Chicago Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= To: "'Steve Rittenberg'" , Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 01:16:19 +0000 From: "Hitzeman, Steven A." Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Superman 1940 Gum Inc #1... Hi Steve!!!! I'm in!! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rittenberg Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:52 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Superman 1940 Gum Inc #1... I'm a little short on cash after the National and can only chip in $20 towards this card. Can someone provide a short-term loan for the balance? http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId230833137645 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:21:52 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Maybe I should start some new sets? Hi gang, After reading Taylor's recap of the National, I got the impression that I should start some new sets. Steve Rittenberg also commented before the show that he printed out two copies of my list on the back of a couple postage stamps. I can take a hint. Soooo, in that light, I'm adding the Hostess sets to my wantlist. ALL of them. I don't even know what years they run, but I'll figure that out if any come rolling in, which might happen with this group ;-) . Single cards preferred, but you can send panels too - I WILL cut them. I'm not collecting both ala Mike Rich with the Red Man sets. My wife bought a paper cutter when we were cutting up a dozen coupon inserts at once, so I know it'll cut through box bottoms. Also, since I might have some kind of OCD, I'll add the Twinkies cards to the list while I'm at it. I don't know if that'll satisfy anyone, but in my defense (and not to brag), I've already completed a good percentage of the major sets (a lot twice over) and adding insert sets or other obscure issues isn't going to help anyone send any dupes my way. Plus, I'm not in this group for the cards. Cardboard I can find anywhere. Good friends like the ones I drove a thousand miles round trip to Baltimore to see, I can't. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:25:40 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Yaz Subject: National Rambles Note: Morganti-ish in length Here's a bit of rambling on the National that I left out of the 'Thanks' note I posted earlier. First, Wade and I arrived in Baltimore on Tuesday night at around 9:30 PM and went to the Ramada (West) that we had reserved for 5 nights about 4 months ago. We had a room on the ground floor to make it easier for Wade to get to with his wheelchair as he would have to charge it periodically during the week. We parked our car in front of the room and when I got Wade out and began to unload, Wade said, "What's that?" pointing about 15 feet away. 'That' was a rat and he had at least 3 friends with him. We quickly got into the room to access the situation. The room was the filthiest I had ever been in and it was clear that Wade was pretty uneasy about staying here. To complicate matters, we had purchased the rooms through Priceline using their 'Name your Price' and were aware that the policy was no refunds. I went back outside to get something from the car and another rat ran out from under the car over to his buddies. I think they were sizing me up and debating whether or not they could take me. I called Priceline and told them the situation and they called the Ramada front desk who naturally 'offered' to move us to a different room. We had had enough though and wanted out so they finally worked out a deal where we 'only' had to pay for the first night and could leave. (Believe me, that 'only pay for the first night' is going to be contested yet.) Anyway, Wade found another hotel, (Another Ramada), called Ramada - Airport that had an opening for 5 nights and we We got to the new hotel about an hour later after getting lost only once and it was clean and nice, no complaints. Four nights later, the swap was held at Ken's hotel, the Red Roof near the airport. Well, this was great, we wouldn't have to drive far that night, I thought. Turns out that our Ramada - Airport must not be too close to the airport because we went to two nearby Red Roof's that night near us before we finally asked at the second one where is the Red Roof near the airport. We found out it was actually near the airport about 11 miles away and we were about an hour late. We did get there before Sal and Kent though and I thought I saw Al Cummings driving around in the parking lot laughing at us but Wade said I was delusional. Anyway, we didn't do cards on Wednesday but spent the day at the National Mall where we went through two Smithsonian museums and saw a lot of great DC sights. We paid 30 bucks for lunch at the Smithsonian, Wade had barbecue minus any sauce and I had what I thought was some kind of burger only it was nothing but smushed, fried beans. Oh, well the parking and museums were free so I can't bitch too much. Later, Wade wanted to go to the IMax at the museum to see the latest Batman movie which was pretty awesome. We plugged his wheelchair in there to get it charged while we watched the movie because it was getting low. Thursday it was cards. I tried to figure out the parking situation and ended paying $18 bucks to park. I've since read that there was $10 parking I could have found but at the time I missed it. Once getting in my plan was to go after 66 and 67 high numbers and that's what I set out to do. Only when I sat down at Uncle Dick's table, I only found a couple and started looking through the rest of his bargain boxes grabbing hits to my 50's sets whenever I saw them. Then, a complication arose. Wade's wheelchair needed charged again, it apparently didn't get charged enough or at all at the IMax theater. We didn't realize it the night before so we didn't charge it at the hotel. So, we went looking for a receptacle to plug it into. The convention center is tremendously huge but after thoroughly searching it we only found 3 receptacles. Two were in inconvenient places. A third was in a restroom stall where a guy was sitting with his computer plugged in. We plugged in there and Wade came over with me to Danny Phillips' table and sat in a chair for a couple of hours while I looked and found more great stuff but not many 66 and 67 hi#s. Wade and I wanted to eat seafood this night and Wade picked out a place somewhere by the docks in Baltimore. We drove for what seemed like weeks to get there, paid 3 bucks to cross a toll bridge, got lost six times, found the place and saw there was no where within 12 blocks to park and in fact the place was so crowded it would be days before we could be served, went back over the toll bridge, paid another 3 bucks, drove a few more weeks to get back near our hotel and then at 10:20 PM stopped at a place a few blocks away from our hotel and had one of the best meals of crab cakes and Imperial crab we had ever eaten. Friday, Wade had a full charge on his chair and we came to the convention where I completed a set. The 65 Topps embossed, with the purchase of the Aaron card. Yaz rules state that when I complete a set, a new set must be added to my wantlist page. That set will be the 54 Topps set, my birthyear set that I will add soon. There was talk of going to the Nationals/Marlins game that night and Wade and I wanted to go so we made plans to go back to DC that afternoon so Wade could go to one more of the museums before the game. Nobody else ended up making it to the game but we had a good time. We bought cheap wheelchair tickets and one of the ushers let us go to the expensive ones instead. The weather was great and so was the game. My fantasy baseball pitcher Josh Johnson was great and got the win and Wade's fantasy 2nd baseman, Bonifacio, got hurt and is out until September. Saturday we spent the whole day at the convention and I completed another set! The 1960 Topps set is done, the last card was some guy named Charon. Everyone kept asking who was the last card I needed but I could never remember his name. Still don't remember his first name. Yaz rules say add a set and I think it will be the 75 Topps mini. Saturday night swap was an event. A Red Roof inn took two rooms side by side, busted out the common wall and called it a convention room. Then OBC crammed 20 guys, 7 or 8 pizzas, 10 bottles of soda, 40 crates of baseball cards, and one cute little heartbreaker of a girl named Kyleigh Morganti into it and called it a Swap. Just wonderful. Drove home Sunday as related in the earlier 'Thanks' note. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:52:57 -0400 (EDT) To: yazobc@insightbb.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National Rambles Note: Morganti-ish in length Content-Language: en you should of let all or EEK drive at least the scenery would of changed country to country In a message dated 8/6/2012 10:26:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, yazobc@insightbb.com writes: Here's a bit of rambling on the National that I left out of the 'Thanks' note I posted earlier. First, Wade and I arrived in Baltimore on Tuesday night at around 9:30 PM and went to the Ramada (West) that we had reserved for 5 nights about 4 months ago. We had a room on the ground floor to make it easier for Wade to get to with his wheelchair as he would have to charge it periodically during the week. We parked our car in front of the room and when I got Wade out and began to unload, Wade said, "What's that?" pointing about 15 feet away. 'That' was a rat and he had at least 3 friends with him. We quickly got into the room to access the situation. The room was the filthiest I had ever been in and it was clear that Wade was pretty uneasy about staying here. To complicate matters, we had purchased the rooms through Priceline using their 'Name your Price' and were aware that the policy was no refunds. I went back outside to get something from the car and another rat ran out from under the car over to his buddies. I think they were sizing me up and debating whether or not they could take me. I called Priceline and told them the situation and they called the Ramada front desk who naturally 'offered' to move us to a different room. We had had enough though and wanted out so they finally worked out a deal where we 'only' had to pay for the first night and could leave. (Believe me, that 'only pay for the first night' is going to be contested yet.) Anyway, Wade found another hotel, (Another Ramada), called Ramada - Airport that had an opening for 5 nights and we We got to the new hotel about an hour later after getting lost only once and it was clean and nice, no complaints. Four nights later, the swap was held at Ken's hotel, the Red Roof near the airport. Well, this was great, we wouldn't have to drive far that night, I thought. Turns out that our Ramada - Airport must not be too close to the airport because we went to two nearby Red Roof's that night near us before we finally asked at the second one where is the Red Roof near the airport. We found out it was actually near the airport about 11 miles away and we were about an hour late. We did get there before Sal and Kent though and I thought I saw Al Cummings driving around in the parking lot laughing at us but Wade said I was delusional. Anyway, we didn't do cards on Wednesday but spent the day at the National Mall where we went through two Smithsonian museums and saw a lot of great DC sights. We paid 30 bucks for lunch at the Smithsonian, Wade had barbecue minus any sauce and I had what I thought was some kind of burger only it was nothing but smushed, fried beans. Oh, well the parking and museums were free so I can't bitch too much. Later, Wade wanted to go to the IMax at the museum to see the latest Batman movie which was pretty awesome. We plugged his wheelchair in there to get it charged while we watched the movie because it was getting low. Thursday it was cards. I tried to figure out the parking situation and ended paying $18 bucks to park. I've since read that there was $10 parking I could have found but at the time I missed it. Once getting in my plan was to go after 66 and 67 high numbers and that's what I set out to do. Only when I sat down at Uncle Dick's table, I only found a couple and started looking through the rest of his bargain boxes grabbing hits to my 50's sets whenever I saw them. Then, a complication arose. Wade's wheelchair needed charged again, it apparently didn't get charged enough or at all at the IMax theater. We didn't realize it the night before so we didn't charge it at the hotel. So, we went looking for a receptacle to plug it into. The convention center is tremendously huge but after thoroughly searching it we only found 3 receptacles. Two were in inconvenient places. A third was in a restroom stall where a guy was sitting with his computer plugged in. We plugged in there and Wade came over with me to Danny Phillips' table and sat in a chair for a couple of hours while I looked and found more great stuff but not many 66 and 67 hi#s. Wade and I wanted to eat seafood this night and Wade picked out a place somewhere by the docks in Baltimore. We drove for what seemed like weeks to get there, paid 3 bucks to cross a toll bridge, got lost six times, found the place and saw there was no where within 12 blocks to park and in fact the place was so crowded it would be days before we could be served, went back over the toll bridge, paid another 3 bucks, drove a few more weeks to get back near our hotel and then at 10:20 PM stopped at a place a few blocks away from our hotel and had one of the best meals of crab cakes and Imperial crab we had ever eaten. Friday, Wade had a full charge on his chair and we came to the convention where I completed a set. The 65 Topps embossed, with the purchase of the Aaron card. Yaz rules state that when I complete a set, a new set must be added to my wantlist page. That set will be the 54 Topps set, my birthyear set that I will add soon. There was talk of going to the Nationals/Marlins game that night and Wade and I wanted to go so we made plans to go back to DC that afternoon so Wade could go to one more of the museums before the game. Nobody else ended up making it to the game but we had a good time. We bought cheap wheelchair tickets and one of the ushers let us go to the expensive ones instead. The weather was great and so was the game. My fantasy baseball pitcher Josh Johnson was great and got the win and Wade's fantasy 2nd baseman, Bonifacio, got hurt and is out until September. Saturday we spent the whole day at the convention and I completed another set! The 1960 Topps set is done, the last card was some guy named Charon. Everyone kept asking who was the last card I needed but I could never remember his name. Still don't remember his first name. Yaz rules say add a set and I think it will be the 75 Topps mini. Saturday night swap was an event. A Red Roof inn took two rooms side by side, busted out the common wall and called it a convention room. Then OBC crammed 20 guys, 7 or 8 pizzas, 10 bottles of soda, 40 crates of baseball cards, and one cute little heartbreaker of a girl named Kyleigh Morganti into it and called it a Swap. Just wonderful. Drove home Sunday as related in the earlier 'Thanks' note. Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:01:00 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "zackenback23" Subject: Re: Maybe I should start some new sets? Awesome! I think I can finally send you some hits. However, you don't have to worry about full panels from me... But what is this about a paper cutter???? This is OBC, baby!!! Tin snips, garden shears, hedge trimmers, even a well-worn weed whacker with frayed line works.....but a PAPER CUTTER??? Next, you'll be telling us your sending them in to be slabbed! Glad you're starting some new sets and sorry I missed meeting you in Bawlmer. Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, cardclctor@... wrote: > Hi gang, > After reading Taylor's recap of the National, I got the impression that > I should start some new sets. Steve Rittenberg also commented before the > show that he printed out two copies of my list on the back of a couple postage > stamps. I can take a hint. Soooo, in that light, I'm adding the Hostess > sets to my wantlist. ALL of them. I don't even know what years they run,but > I'll figure that out if any come rolling in, which might happen with this > group ;-) . Single cards preferred, but you can send panels too - I WILLcut > them. I'm not collecting both ala Mike Rich with the Red Man sets. My wife > bought a paper cutter when we were cutting up a dozen coupon inserts at > once, so I know it'll cut through box bottoms. Also, since I might have some > kind of OCD, I'll add the Twinkies cards to the list while I'm at it. > I don't know if that'll satisfy anyone, but in my defense (and not to > brag), I've already completed a good percentage of the major sets (a lot > twice over) and adding insert sets or other obscure issues isn't going tohelp > anyone send any dupes my way. Plus, I'm not in this group for the cards. > Cardboard I can find anywhere. Good friends like the ones I drove a thousand > miles round trip to Baltimore to see, I can't. TAYL, > Ken M ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:25:03 -0400 (EDT) To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Another round...! Content-Language: en They give out a price guide at the national free and George wrote an article for it and posted a picture of a bunch of us at table at last year's National. Not sure if anyone has a scanner and can put the article up on the web site... way cool! In a message dated 8/5/2012 6:39:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: Tell me more about this SCD mention. Is there a link? _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/s From: "ChicoD1@aol.com" To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 6:27 AM Subject: [OBC-National] Another round...! How cool is this group? I mean really... We get in SCD, I catch up with people I've known for 20 years but never met. I get my picture taken with a hot chick, Little Ms Morganti is the queen of rambles, and I get more 62s! Bob Donaldson lets me pick thru his 62 book to find a few gems. I got an envelope (I SWORE I would not miss anyone this time) that had a few more 62s in an envelope (ok who gave that to me?). I'm glad the rookies here are having a good time. One of the special things about OBC is that once you are in, you are not a stranger. You are one of us who collects cardboard pictures of men (except for Morganti who found a Hooters set). And you didn't tell us about this? I need one of those sets LOL...And no, I didn't get my picture with any of the Hooters girls, I hope this isn't the best Baltimore to offer. My cards are pretty well organized right now so I won't have to scatter my brain when I get home. Keys for Sat-- See if I can get the last two Islanders, get 2 more 66s, 2 more 67s, 3 more Dodgers, a couple of Jets and Knicks and Nets, a couple of scratchoffs, That should keep me busy for a few Thanks again to those who handed me cards and for being a part of the best group of collectors ANYWHERE! ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:26:44 -0400 (EDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Best find at the show... What can I say? I love my life! And I have her number, we've been texting LOL... Almost as good as getting a yellow 58 Clemente! In a message dated 8/6/2012 1:04:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikesportsfan@aol.com writes: Stephanie was a real treat and kept on getting friendlier with each picture we took of her and Sal. We had to have at least 5 pictures because we did not "snap" good pictures the first 4 times. Are we just bad photographers or were we just helping Sal out??? Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-National ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 2, 2012 12:54 am Subject: [OBC-National] Best find at the show... Need I say more? ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:33:09 -0400 (EDT) To: srittenberg@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Superman 1940 Gum Inc #1... Content-Language: en I think I have 2 nickels left... Thank God it's free shipping! In a message dated 8/6/2012 6:51:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, srittenberg@gmail.com writes: I'm a little short on cash after the National and can only chip in $20 towards this card. Can someone provide a short-term loan for the balance? _http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId230833137645_ (http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId230833137645) Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 21:30:32 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Another National come and gone... ... what a time it was! Started out going to the game on Tuesday with Mac and "2 buddies". One turned out to be Kent Goto, who decided to plan total deception on me. Nice surprise for sure. And we hardly got lost at all! Those of you who posted if you forgot to thank anyone... I don't remember what cards I gave to anyone LOL. So just being there was thanks enough for me. It was way cool to meet some old friends I have seen in the past, some old (and I mean OLD) friends I have met for the first time (el Guru!) and some cool rookies. I know that OBC will be in great hands for a long, long Cool to see us in the SCD article with the pic of the ugliest bunch of guys ever! I did make some good hits throughout the show, and scored a few Jets biggies that I needed (no not any Namaths). And yes Steve, I broke down and picked up the batman cards for 2.50 a piece. My 62s took a major hit thanks to all the guys who showed up. Scored a few on the Dodger set including Pee Wee. Did MUCH better on the 52B's than I thought I would. And dealer scummed my way through the Rittenberg box of terror and started the NY Rangers set (I'll post a want list before the next National). Speaking of Steve, he said every time you hear a Ding! you get a card. That damn bell was ringing off the hook! Tom, you will have plenty of pics to make new cards from I'm sure. I'll see what I can do about getting them posted. I am partial to the "Stephanie" rookie card! Speaking of rookies, Lil Miss Morganti was a highlight of the show. What a trouper! (Ken start a new card set besides hostess). She was a doll for the entire week. (Ken start a new card set). I think she really wanted to flip the cards. (Ken start a new card set). She had the best ramblings also (Ken start a new card set). Some day we may see her walking around the show with a cell phone telling us where to find the deals (Ken start a new card We were watching archery when Mark came in and he started flinging cards around the restaurant. He had better aim than the guys with the periscopes and laser beam headlights who were shooting the target. Just an amazing time once again, and I'll send out a blanket thanks to all who showed and who were nice enough to pass me some cards. Our OBC dealers came through yet again, and I think we have added a few others to that Getting a call from Big Al was great also. I hear he is finally in Panama, but working his way to Anaheim! How is it that Mike Rich is working on 8000 sets and I can barely find anything for him? Same for Steve... Time to put all those cards I got away. Started slowly, but would up with a nice stack! I'm sure there is so much more the say, and you can bet I'll say it once I get over the "sometimers" and remember what it was. Chicago or bust! ================= Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 02:58:00 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken" Subject: National I'm finally getting time to use the PC since I returned from Balitmore. It was great meeting guys I've been friends with for years. Every time you met someone new and shook their hand you found a card in your hand. I want to give a shout out to my roomie, Ron Perry, even if he did leave me to ride the Light Rail System by myself at 10:00 PM and not telling me there were 2 different trains. This was my 4th National but first one in 17 years. Got to say the highlight of the show was seeing Guru actually have to rip plastic sheets to get the "Sewer" find cards out. I was able to finish off a set or two but also started a couple more. As you know I'm not the most organized guy in OBC so I have no idea who gave me what so I'm going to do a blanket 'Thank You' to everyone for the cards or just making me feel like one of the gange. Ken P. ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 00:35:58 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: My First National Trip (final chapter) ...by Kyleigh Morganti Hi again everyone, I think I left off on Saturday. Daddy had long ago spent all his budgeted money, so we went to the show and walked around for the most part. One of the tables had lollipops, so we stopped by there a few extra times! Thank you Daddy! Despite the added sugar rush, I still managed to get my nap in midway through the day. A lot of the dealers commented on how pretty I was and/or well behaved I seemed to be throughout the week. Well, Daddy told me I had to be on my best behavior and it's a good thing a lot of Mommy's good looks rubbed off on me ;-) After the show, we took the train back to the car and stopped at the local supermarket to pick up some soda, then headed over to the big card swap. Daddy spent a lot of time yelling out to the room which cards he had to give away, but I guess nobody wanted them. Finally he just started handing out bunches of cards to people and telling them they needed them and not to bother giving any of them back. That worked only a little better. I had some pizza, but I'm not allowed to drink any soda yet. At about ten o'clock I had my fill of silly baseball cards and let everyone know about it. A long nap soon followed for me, but I imagine everyone else was having so much fun that the swap went on for a few hours longer. On Sunday, we went to the show from about noon to four and said bye to some of Daddy's friends who were still in town. Daddy also picked up a few 60's and 70's HOF'ers for 30 cents each - cheap enough that I could've bought some if I was interested in cards at all. On our way out the door, we stopped at a table that was giving stuff away FREE so they wouldn't have to drag it all back with them. There were all kinds of neat magazines that I'd love to rip into pieces, but Daddy said these had Red Sox players on them, so he wouldn't let me have them. He's so mean sometimes. Honestly, I don't care who is on the magazine as long as it's made of paper and I can rip it up and throw it all over the floor. We got back to the hotel and Daddy packed up a lot of stuff and put it in the car, so we could go bye-byes first thing in the morning. The ride home went a lot faster than the one on the way down to Baltimore. We managed to miss a lot of traffic until we were just a few miles away... still the trip took about an hour less, mostly because I slept through most of it and we didn't have to stop as often according to Daddy. I really enjoyed meeting all of Daddy's friends. I hope I get to do it again real soon, but I'm not sure if that'll be next year or not. Mommy missed me so much the week I was gone. Plus it might be Dominic's turn again next year. I hate taking turns - I want everything right now all the time. Anyway, thanks to everyone who read my stories. I hope they made you feel like you were there with us... and I hope someday soon you are. Good night and sweet cardboard dreams, ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 15:59:46 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: National reflections Maybe more of a ramblings than a report but here goes... -- I intended on leaving AL first thing Monday morning but I wanted to pack up a few more envelopes for OBCers. I ended up leaving around 10pm. It was worth it as I was WAY more organized than usual. I actually had cards for every guy there (except the unexpected guys like Kent and Nick Pelletier). -- The overnight drive was not as painful as I expected. Thanks to Sal for staying up late to chat with me. -- I arrived at the show at 10:30am Tuesday. Uncle Dick had the dealer badge he acquired for me @ $60. We (well, I) gotta do a better job next year at getting badges in advance. A couple of guys sprung for VIP badges (2x the price) because of that. -- I spent the next few hours saying hi to the familar dealers and telling a few of them about my job uncertainty. My company seriously overbid on our contract and the new company hadn't yet picked us up. Fortunately, while digging through Chandy's boxes, I received a call and negotiated a job offer. Of course, I couldn't tell anyone until I got through to me wife. I feel sick about what happened to Tom Housley. I could have easily been in the same boat but I'm grateful that things worked out for me. -- After the show, I met up with Chris S and K&K Morganti for Quiznos. I figured out that we (and probably everyone else) have the same issues with our wives: Communication and money. I'll take comfort in the knowledge that I'm not alone there. After dinner, I hung out with them until Richard Dingman got into town. I had a few cards for each of them. I know I had a cut-in-half double play for Chris and some other "oddball Yankees crap". I think I had a 50B for Ken. Why do I mention these? Well, I had the cards in my boxes two years ago in Baltimore but was not organized enough. -- It took me a while to find my hotel. Something about "423 St Paul" in my head and "723 St Paul" on the front of the building. I started unloading my trunk o'cards with Richard's help. After a couple of minutes searching for things, I take a load up to the lobby to see that Richard and the hotel guy have already brought the first load upstairs for me. Umm.. Thanks. That was way more than I expected. -- The hotel Richard chose is about 300-400 years old. I know a little bit about historical signatures and I swear I saw original grafiti showing "George Washington was here." Below that, I read "For a good time, come over to Betsy Ross' place", signed by some guy named Jefferson. It was a very nice hotel about 100 years ago. They claim there is central air conditioning but it took me an hour to cool down eack time I came back to the room. The fridge didn't work. I suppose the ice man was on vacation. When I turned off the overhead light in the bedroom, the power to the outlet behind the bed wen off. How does someone use an alarm clock? For breakfast we had toast, sometimes. One day, Richard hovered over the hotel guy (from about 20 feet away) who finally told Richard to quit crowding him. -- Wednesday meant more show. I think it was a productive day for me with quite a few hits to the FB, BB and non-sport sets on my list. The details are already hazy. I'm impressed with Guru's daily reports. But I am curious about one thing. He kept talking about "ellipticals" every day. I went to quite a few donut shops asking for these but no one had any so I settled for jelly and glazed. Oh well. -- The OBCers started streaming in Wednesday afternoon. The VIPs are invited upstairs for pizza and autographs of Jack Morris and Bobby Grich. Ken texts me "Pizza upstairs for VIPs". Kent has rope burns from where I ripped his VIP badge off his neck (and swapped it for a guest badge). The free pizza was good. There was plenty left and the dealers ending up receiving some as well. -- After the show, we stood outside in the heat waiting to go into a bar. Boy, that was fun. My cousin had come down for the show. I decided to pass him off as an OBCer that (practically) no one had ever met. For a couple of reason, I should have chosen Neil Holbrook. We had beer while waiting for dinner. I picked up the beer check for Kent and Mac. Then realized I had one while they each had a few. Oops. Mac made up for it buy picking up my dinner check. I made up for it by have three (or four?) more beers. I walked back to the hotel with Mac and Mike Rich in the muggy weather. Yuck. The others didn't seem to have a problem so I guess it was me. I got back to the hotel, spent an hour cooling off while trying to get online and went to bed. -- Thursday: More show. By now just about eveyrone is here. Before the show, I check the list of who will be at the show that day so I can put their envelope in my bag. I need to give myself a gold star for being so organized. The process of sneaking everyone in starts. After a few days, people look funny at Ed Schott so we start taking turns. For people after 10am, I get my hand stamped, go out and see them in the far corner, hand them a badge and ask them to wait a minute. That way, there's not one dealer continuously bringing in several others. And I took off my hat to be even more inconspicuous. $20 per day for admission. That's insane. -- I had acquired one dealer badge and 2 "Guest/Media" badges. About 10 years ago, I bought a few non-sports cards from a guy on ebay. Turns out he's the show promoter, Mike Berkus. Every year I try to find things for him but cannot. Still, he puts my name on a list to get a couple of badges. -- After the show Thursday, we are going to another pub. I couldn't find that either though I was standing in front of it. Well, the name was different than what Mike said. He kept saying "M & S Grille" like Mike and Steve, but we were in the Ta Ra Nog Irish Pub. The company was great but the first singer was lousy. Then some Irish crooner came in. Some guy named Talbot. He was a LOT better than the guy who was being paid. After dinner I hung out with Nick Pelletier, Mac, and Mike Rich for one more beer. Nick tells us how friendly airline passengers are to him and his TSA colleagues. Nick pointed out that water is a "liquid". News to me but its good to know that TSA folks are trained in chemistry and physics as well as security measures. -- Friday. Even more show. I'm getting tired by now. There were plans to go to a Nats game but its hot and muggy out and transportation wasn't going to be easy to go from Baltimore to DC. Instead, I skipped the OBC dinner and was the "plus one" with Mac at a Net54 dinner. There were raging debates all night about the origin of green tints, why people's names were mispelled on cards, and if Donruss purposefully created short prints via the numerous errors in their 81 set. I got to know Taylor Schock a lot better at the dinner. He collects non-sports so now I have another pigeon to dump my dupes -- Saturday. Mac walks up and hands me a Three Stooges card that I had ordered from a show dealer on ebay the previously night. Mac said he didn't pay for it so I know I need to get back there and settle up. 6 hours later, I get back there. The dealer (Paul Korst) tells me its a freebie. I had spent several hours at his table the previous day. At this National, I occasionally was a magnet and attracted other OBCers my way. So they spent a lot of time with Paul as well. He's one of a few new OBC friendly dealers I will list for new year. One that I will NOT list is a guy that Ron Perry knew. The guy went on and on about how he knows everyone in the group. Well, that was the first (and last) time I'll spend time with him. I don't think he shut up the whole time. The last thing I picked up from him was a Jimmy Foxx cut out from a 1930s exhibit card. He thought it was not authentic so charged only $5. I bought it and showed it to Mark Macrae. Mark had sold me a smal pile of these a couple of months ago so I showed him the Foxx. We both agreed this one is authentic. -- I took a show break to see a friend in Baltimore. We went to a pub that was supposed to have great burgers. I ended up ordering mine medium. Blah. Looked raw to me. I sent it back to have it cooked more. After 10 minutes, I received another burger. It too was undercooked. I asked for the Manager but spoke with the head cook. He disagreed that my burger was unsatisfactory. He told me that since I ate 3/4 of it, he'd take 1/4 of the price off my bill. I need to call that place during the day (when I think the head cook won't be there) and let them know about the poor customer service. -- Swap Saturday night. I loaded up the trunk (with Richard and Taylor doing all the work) and headed over. Only one wrong turn!! The pizza and cards were flying. I was better organized than I had been but still was very late and couldn't enjoy it as much as I hoped. I really wanted to look through everyone else's boxes. I found a few things there -- 54B variations from Andy Cook and 1964 coins from Bob Reed. We hung out there until people were falling asleep. Then we all hid in the corner when Talbot was in the bathroom. He came out, saw the lights out and figured we abandoned him without saying good bye. haha. A classic prank. -- More show on Sunday. I originally planned to be there until the bitter end but had to leave early to be at the office of the new employer (same exact job) the next day. I did my best to find things for others and hand out what I hadn't previously. Talbot probably has excess baggage charges due to all the books I gave him. -- And it was time to go... Said some good byes and went out the door. Found a gas station (eventually) and made a lonnnnnng drive home. The CBS Radio Mystery Theater (hosted by e.g. marshall) kept me company most of the time. I called Jim Wiehe to see how he was. His son answered but I thought it was his daughter. Maybe that's why Jim hasn't called me back? I caught up with Joe Greco during some very hard rain and poor cell signals. I got home around 2am. The last hour was not fun. And probably not safe. -- I've started unpacking. While packing, I found cards from the FIRST Baltimore National that hadn't been put away yet. Yikes! I'm hoping it will be better this time. Card related highlights (that don't include thanks): -- Finished two sets in about 5 minutes at the A to Z guys (OBC friendly dealers). -- Bought a 1966 Fleer All Star Set from Kevin Savage. -- Later I bought a T3 Red Sox from Kevin. -- Found a 1961 Post COMPANY card of Haywood Sullivan in Chandy's boxes. Wow. I've never had a company card before. They look so much nicer than the box cards. -- Last day: 59 Mantle AS for about $40 from Just Collect and their 70% off sale. -- Picked up a 61Fl Jimmy Taylor RC on eBay Saturday morning because I couldn't find an affordable one at the show. -- Found the LAST vintage Topps Hockey card that I need. 1966 Topps Blackhawks Team card at an affordable price. I still need a dozen Parkies and some 80s star RCs. Blah. -- Sprained my wrist because I pulled a 1933 PB #131 Mort Cooper so quickly out of a binder. ONE MORE to go!! -- Continuously gave Ron Perry a hard time about the things he picked up for 3%. I go to the same guys and bag for something at 20%. Either Ron will send me the card I'm begging for from him (1947-66 Exhibit Phil Linz) or he won't speak to me for a while. Haha. I looked through the dealer's stuff on Tuesday but some how Ron stopped by Satuday and scooped it up.. Arrgh. Ron's talent for finding bargains is so impressive. And even when he doesn't find them, he gets the dealers to accept his offers of 3 - 5%. I think $10 is a fair price for a card but Ron will offer him $5 and the dealer will take it. Hmm. Maybe I can pay Ron to shop for me. If I will pay $10, Ron can find it for $5, I'll give him $7 and everyone is ahead. The dealer isn't but he doesn't count. -- It's in my Thanks but worth mentioning again. Mike Rich let me buy a Red Sox team set that he had just purchased. If I ever get permission to have a "Wall of Fame" in my basement, these are definitely candidates. -- Found the 2012 Topps set and 2011 Topps series 2 set one morning as the show started. I think my Topps run is still intact but its getting harder and harder each year. -- Picked up a Babe Ruth jigsaw puzzle for $1 -- Picked up a couple of Topps (or Bazooka?) panels for $1. They'll be in the mail at some point. Things I wish went differently: -- Didn't finish my 61 Fleer FB set. I happened to see that a guy (initials RP) already has what I need. Maybe he'd accept a Goudey Ruth in exchange for a couple of minor stars. -- Haggling with the sewer find dealer over a Koufax RC. The guy was stuck on $100. It was no more than a $50 (5%) card. Would have been a nice one for my DS box. -- Somehow, didn't have all the names of the Exhibits I need. In my database, all cards are numbered even if they have no numbers on the front. I generate my wantlist and add in names and BV based on card prices and amount needed. I discovered I still need the commons Curtwright, Mahaffey and one more. -- Civil War News prices were higher than I wanted but I think the Sherman Burns Atlanta card is probably worth more than the others so I'll have to raise my target price -- Former OBC friendly dealer Ron Barrett was not there. He is in poor health. People might know him as the guy who set up at Ft Washington (and the National) and looked like Wilfred Brimley. -- Former OBC friendly dealer Greg Fisher was not there. We cannot figure out what has happened to him. Does anyone live near Niagara -- Kurt Tourdot was not there. We heard he had a lousy show last time in Baltimore so he skipped. This probably saved me a few hundred dollars. Everytime I walk past Kurt he tells me he has a star card that I have to buy. And I do. -- Wasn't organized for the swap. Nothing new there but I miss out on a lot as a result. -- Had to leave the show early. The OCD in me loves being there from 8:30 Tuesday AM to 5:00 Sunday PM. Who knows what you might miss otherwise? :-) -- I handed out lots of "home made type cards" at the swap. A kid cut out pictures of payers from the 30s and 40s and pasted them to cardboard. I think Mark Macrae told me they were for some sort of dice game. I divided them up at the swap but I don't think they went over very well. Maybe these will be like APBA cards and I will get them back one day. I think that's enough for this ramble. I've been falling asleep myself as I wrote it so I dread the reviews I'll get from everyone Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 17:36:48 -0400 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Good news / bad news for work Hi all, Bad news first: as half-expected, found out today that my employer's moving all of our software group's positions overseas by the end of 2013. My own position ends in March, about 7 months away. I have the option of following it to Bangalore or St. Petersberg, but prefer the baseball parks here in Massachusetts. :-) Good news: the company as a whole is doing fine and we'll have help looking for other spots internally or nearby. TBD what groups are comparable, but 12 years of experience is better than none at all. I've also kept in touch with others in nearby companies both large and small. OBC impact: personal finances are OK, but will cut back on buying until I better understand my prospects. 50/50 chance that I'll sell some stuff to feel more "comfortable," likely low-grade sets. OBCers have contributed to their construction, so want to make sure people know before it happens. (Let me know by email or on Ramblings if you have issues or questions about doing so.) I'm not the only guy in this place right now, so here's hoping good outcomes for all of us. ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 17:40:30 -0400 (EDT) To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Good news / bad news for work Content-Language: en What the heck is going on here?!?! Three OBC guys in 2 weeks find out that they have, or may lose their jobs? I hope it works out for all, but this may be something to think about come the 1st Tuesday in November. In a message dated 8/8/2012 4:36:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, glidden.matthew@gmail.com writes: Hi all, Bad news first: as half-expected, found out today that my employer's moving all of our software group's positions overseas by the end of 2013. My position ends in March, about 7 months away. I have the option of following it to Bangalore or St. Petersberg, but prefer the baseball parks here Massachusetts. :-) Good news: the company as a whole is doing fine and we'll have help looking for other spots internally or nearby. TBD what groups are comparable, 12 years of experience is better than none at all. I've also kept in touch with others in nearby companies both large and small. OBC impact: personal finances are OK, but will cut back on buying until I better understand my prospects. 50/50 chance that I'll sell some stuff to feel more "comfortable," likely low-grade sets. OBCers have contributed to their construction, so want to make sure people know before it happens. (Let me know by email or on Ramblings if you have issues or questions about doing so.) I'm not the only guy in this place right now, so here's hoping good outcomes for all of us. ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 19:54:54 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: my apologies an email that was meant for an individual was sent to the ramblings server as well as i hit reply all instead of reply. this was my error, and i apologize if any takes offense that the comment was posted to the server. i dont want to see political comments on the server either, and I am sorry that this got through. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 20:50:54 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: 1961 Fleer Football Availalbles 1961 Fleer Football - anybody collect them? If you do, I hope you are not too choosy, because these guys look like refugees from Guru's swamp cards. But if that's not a problem, here you go - just include your name and address. 025 026 060 083 134 195 214 ================= To: malsman250@neo.rr.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 01:14:21 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Baseball rules ================= Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 01:56:38 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings , talbot1 , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball rules Mark, sacrifice flies differ from sacrifice bunts, where you are credited for your intent.
Only If a run scores as a result of your caught fly ball, regardless of your intent, you get credited for a sac fly.
Runners advancing but without scoring, no sac fly.

OBC Forever
Brian

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================= Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:53:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: FOOT hosts Yudt's Matt Yudt is taking his boys, Noah 7 Eli, on a post-National tour of a few ballparks. Last nite was Comerica Park where we saw the Yanks outlast the Tigers 12- 8 in a typically loooong Yanks game, that kept me up passed my bedtime. Mark Talbot had bought the tickets so that Earl Kilborne, Mark andI could join them. But for the hated Yanks winning, it was a great nite at the ballpark. Earl hit me with a small stack of Jewish major Leaguers when I met up with him. He also handed me a group of miscuts and a pair of Topps Scoops from Mark Talbot. When I got to the game, Matt gave me the lastneeded upgrade to my 1979 OPC BB set. Thanks all for a great, albeit, late nite. Mike Rich ================= Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 12:40:08 -0400 (EDT) To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: st louis help? My wife and I are headed to St Louis on the 18th of this month to see the Chiefs and the Rams in Pre season and I wondered if anyone had any ins with Thanks, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:13:52 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Online card shops I'd like to find more online card shops. Right now I know about Dave Levin (gfg.com), Dean's Cards (www.deanscards.com), and California Cards (californiasportscards.com). Kurt Tourdot (http://www.k2doecards.com/index.html) has some $20 deals worth checking but nothing else is listed. William Chappell (http://www.chappellcards.com/) lists his higher end stuff. Who else is out there? I want to continue finding things before my post-National euphoria fades. 358 days until sneak-peak day at the National in Chicago next year! ================= To: srittenberg@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 11:22:43 -0700 From: "wite3@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops Checkoutmycards.com is great... Battersbox cards is also good. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Steve Rittenberg To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 17:14:37 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops I'd like to find more online card shops. Right now I know about Dave Levin (gfg.com), Dean's Cards (www.deanscards.com), and California Cards (californiasportscards.com). Kurt Tourdot (http://www.k2doecards.com/index.html) has some $20 deals worth checking but nothing else is listed. William Chappell (http://www.chappellcards.com/) lists his higher end stuff. Who else is out there? I want to continue finding things before my post-National euphoria fades. 358 days until sneak-peak day at the National in Chicago next year! OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:28:18 -0400 (EDT) To: Wite3@aol.com, srittenberg@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops Content-Language: en Sportslots is where i do my shopping but you have to find the right dealer with your needs as each seller ships and handle their own producks. Just for example i bought 32 cards for 17.00 but because i Had about 25 different sellers my S & H was 24.00 i still like them because they had cards the other dont In a message dated 8/10/2012 1:22:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Wite3@aol.com writes: _Checkoutmycards.com_ (http://checkoutmycards.com/) is great... Battersbox cards is also good. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Steve Rittenberg To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 17:14:37 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops I'd like to find more online card shops. Right now I know about Dave Levin (_gfg.com_ (mip://2b4764a0/gfg.com) ), Dean's Cards (_www.deanscards.com_ (mip://2b4764a0/www.deanscards.com) ), and California Cards (_californiasportscards.com_ (mip://2b4764a0/californiasportscards.com) ). Kurt Tourdot (_http://www.k2doecards.com/index.html_ (http://www.k2doecards%20.com/index.html) ) has some $20 deals worth checking but nothing else is listed. William Chappell (_http://www.chappellcards.com_ (http://www.chappellcards.com/) /) lists his higher end stuff. Who else is out there? I want to continue finding things before my post-National euphoria fades. 358 days until sneak-peak day at the National in Chicago next year! OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home pageor directly at _www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo_ (mip://2b4764a0/www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo) ! Groups Links *> To visit your group on the web, go to: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings) / *> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional *> To change settings online go to: _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join) (Yahoo! ID required) *> To change settings via email: *> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: *> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: _http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms_ (http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms) / ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:15:53 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Andy Subject: 1967 variations Can someone email me a list of 1967 Topps variations? Sent from my iPad ================= To: talbot1@comcast.net, malsman250@neo.rr.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 00:07:12 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball rules According to the "official rules of major league baseball 10.08: (d) Score a sacrifice fly when, before two are out, the batter hits a ball in flight handled by an outfielder or an infielder running in the outfield in fair or foul territory (1) is caught, and a runner scores after the catch, or (2) is dropped, and a runner scores, if in the scorer=E2=99s judgment the runner could have scored after the catch had the fly been caught. Rule 10.08(d) Comment: The official scorer shall score a sacrifice fly in accordance Rule 10.08(d)(2) even though another runner is forced out by reason of the batter becoming a runner. Appears teh below does NOT constitute a sacrifice fly. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: talbot1 To: malsman250 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Aug 8, 2012 9:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball rules Runners on 1st + 2nd - score 7 to 3 we are loosing - fly ball to deep center advancing runner to 3rd is it a sac fly or straight out. You make the call??? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Sender: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 20:50:54 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Fleer Football Availalbles 1961 Fleer Football - anybody collect them? If you do, I hope you are not too choosy, because these guys look like refugees from Guru's swamp cards. But if that's not a problem, here you go - just include your name and address. 025 026 060 083 134 195 214 ================= To: LUURSCJG@aol.com, Wite3@aol.com, srittenberg@gmail.com, Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 05:56:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Mandell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops i did a comarison of sportslots and checout my cards a few months ago when i was looking for easy to find inserts on the uv sets. as ray said, the sportlots proces are usually better, but you have to pay eah seller for shipping and handling. with ceckout, the postage is less, but the prices are more. it turns out i bought half of what i was looking for from each site. please forgive the spelling. not on my computer, and the font is about a 2. and i don thave my glasses -----Original Message----- From: LUURSCJG To: Wite3 ; srittenberg ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 3:28 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops Sportslots is where i do my shopping but you have to find the right dealer with your needs as each seller ships and handle their own producks. Just for example i bought 32 cards for 17.00 but because i Had about 25 differentsellers my S & H was 24.00 i still like them because they had cards the other In a message dated 8/10/2012 1:22:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Wite3@aol.com Checkoutmycards.com is great... Battersbox cards is also good. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Steve Rittenberg To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 17:14:37 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Online card shops I'd like to find more online card shops. Right now I know about Dave Levin (gfg.com), Dean's Cards (www.deanscards.com), and California Cards (californiasportscards.com). Kurt Tourdot (http://www.k2doecards.com/index.html) has some $20 deals worth checking but nothing else is listed. William Chappell (http://www.chappellcards.com/) lists his higher end stuff. Who else is out there? I want to continue finding things before my post-National euphoria fades. 358 days until sneak-peak day at the National in Chicago next year! OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page ordirectly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links *> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/ *> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional *> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join (Yahoo! ID required) *> To change settings via email: *> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: *> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:12:33 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: More pictures - and OBC cards - added Hi guys, Guru was kind enough to e-mail me the 20 or so photos of members he ran into at the National. So.... 1) I've uploaded all of them to the "OBC Members" folder on the Ramblings Yahoo page. A while back there was discussion & suggestion that we all add aphoto of ourselves to that folder, so we know what each other's ugly mug looks like (the lovely Mrs. Fitak being the exception to the ugly-mug club).So - if you haven't done so, & your picture isn't in there - please uploada picture of yourself. It's easy. But if you don't want to upload it, sendit to me & I'll do it. 2) Continuing my "I'm learning photoshop-plus-I-couldn't-go-to-the-National-plus I have a lot of free time now" theme, I took those pictures & creatednew 1969-style OBC cards & uploaded them into the OBC Cards folder on the Ramblings Yahoo site. Finally, Guru - there was no Guru photo!! We need one so I can shop it intoa Tipton-Mint card! ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:05:59 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Mark Z Subject: Re: Online card shops/sportlots if anyone uses sportlots, I have a link at the bottom of my want list that would give me bonus credit at end of month http://home.earthlink.net/~mzentko/id4.html ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 13:35:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Mark Z Subject: online delaers/checkoutmycards one thing I do like about this site is that you don't have to ship right away, you can hold your stuff there until you get more to justify the postage cost.. ================= To: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:24:05 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: 10 days of baseball joy! Got back at 1 AM last night on trip that went from Baltimore to Rochester to Pittsburgh to Cleveland to Detroit to Canton. (OK, Rochester wasn't for baseball and Canton is football hallowed grounds, but you get the point) I only spent Wed and Thursday at the National, but it was as truly incredible as all have described. Meeting so many OBC brethren and attending that show for the first time certainly more than re-sparked the card hobby flame that summer slightly extinguished for the past 2 months. I did get the thanks out last Thursday when I returned, but only spent the last 4 hours finally going through the cards and putting in binders and updating the lists. Still a ways to go. Not only wasted the 71 set (thanks again, Nick) but pretty much smashed most of the 2012 collecting goals that were still left. I only need precisely 51 cards between the 60, 67, and 68 topps set to reach that goal. Was able to jump start a few other sets that are still "Haves" and added new things like Jello's, Posts, OPC's etc. After a weekend family trip to Rochester it was off on the 2012 baseball trip. Pittsburgh was first - perhaps the nicest stadium, but so hard to rank them because they are all unique and really great places to watch games. The usher that let us sit right behind home plate from the 6th inning on though, wins an award in my book. And the backdrop of the downtown was perhaps #1 as well. Drove straight from Pittsburgh to Cleveland after the game. Stayed at a pricey downtown hotel that was worth it, since we could walk everywhere. Progressive field is huge, but unfortunately the crowd, and the team, were lacking. Nevertheless, at $10 / ticket - def the best bargain of the week. Indians almost broke their losing streak against the Twins, but much like my home team Phillies, the bullpen allowed 3 in the 7th and 3 in the 9th to snag defeat from the claws of victory, or something like that. Off to Detroit - and a meeting with the Foots! (see Thanks post to follow.). Our "host" Mark Talbot, not only hit the mark with the hotel recommendation, the tickets purchased, but with cards and cards and cards. He met us (my two boys, Noah and Eli) with a pack of cards for each, drove us to the game where we drank and ate and drank some more (well at least Mark and I did.). We got in early enough to watch BP and Mark nearly got plunked with a home run ball or two during that. We met with Mike Rich and Earl Kilbourn (and more cards!). My boys thoroughly enjoyed sitting in front of a guy named "Motormouth"! Unfortunately, none of us enjoyed the Yankee victory. The crowd was certainly the largest of the 3 and the most electric, despite the large # of Yankees shirts and hats in attendance. Noah and I each bought a Tigers shirt after the game. (Eli picked up a cool Indians jersey the night An extra day at the indoor water park North of Detroit coincided with the first rainy day of the trip. Oh, and perhaps the best gift came from Mark on Thursday evening - the minivan key I lost in his car Wed night! That would've really sucked. Then it was off to Canton - which after all was practically on the road home. It was no Cooperstown, but it was great to visit the football HoF. Looking forward to 2013 - another National and more stadium tours. BTW, we are up to 9 stadiums now and although Citizens Bank Park in Philly might not be the best (although it's up there) - none of them touch the food choices we have in Philly!! (Can you tell I'm in cheesesteak withdrawal?) OBC forever. Matt Yudt ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 19:13:06 -0400 (EDT) To: yudts5@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 10 days of baseball joy! Content-Language: en Even if your not a Yankees fan someone should of told you that about a mile down the road was Thurman Munson grave. Being a former carcher I liked his style In a message dated 8/11/2012 2:23:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, yudts5@verizon.net writes: Got back at 1 AM last night on trip that went from Got back to to to to to to was first - perhaps the nicest stadium, but so hard to rank them because they are all unique and really great places to watch games. The usher that let us sit right behind home plate from the 6th inning on though, wins an award in my book. And the backdrop of the downtown was perhaps #1 as well. Drove straight from Drove stra to to after the game. Stayed at a pricey downtown hotel that was worth it, since we could walk everywhere. Progressive field is huge, but unfortunately the crowd, and the team, were lacking. Nevertheless, at $10 / ticket - def the best bargain of the week. Indians almost broke their losing streak against the Twins, but much like my home team Phillies, the bullpen allowed 3 in the 7th and 3 in the 9th to snag defeat from the claws of victory, or something like that. Off to Off to - and a meeting with the Foots! (see Thanks post to follow=E2=A6 ). Our =E2=9Chost=E2=9D Mark Talbot, not only hit the mark with the hotel recommendation, the tickets purchased, but with cards and cards and cards.He us (my two boys, Noah and Eli) with a pack of cards for each, drove us to the game where we drank and ate and drank some more (well at least Mark and I did=E2=A6). We got in early enough to watch BP and Mark nearly got plunked with a home run ball or two during that. We met with Mike Rich and Earl Kilbourn (and more cards!). My boys thoroughly enjoyed sitting in front of guy named =E2=9CMotormouth=E2=9D! Unfortunately, none of us enjoyedthe victory. The crowd was certainly the largest of the 3 and the most electric, despite the large # of Yankees shirts and hats in attendance. Noah and I each bought a Tigers shirt after the game. (Eli picked up a cool Indians jersey the night before). An extra day at the indoor water park North of Detroit coincided with the first rainy day of the trip. Oh, and perhaps the best gift came from Mark on Thursday evening - the minivan key I lost in his car Wed night! That would=E2=99ve really sucked=E2=A6 Then it was off to Then i - which after all was practically on the road home. It was no Cooperstown, but it was great to visit the football It. Looking forward to 2013 - another National and more stadium tours. BTW, we are up to 9 stadiums now and although BTW, we From: John Dahms Subject: football card question hello, recently picked up a lot of football cards. included is a football's all-time greats lance alworth...green bordered card John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 17:59:30 -0700 (PDT) To: trading bases , From: John Dahms Subject: vintage football available I have some vintage football available, if interested please let me know, also for condition if it is a concern. 1960 topps--#113 Y.A. tittle poor with creases 1962 post--#30 alex webster poor with creases 1984 fleer team action #69 and 70 vg a lance alworth footballs all-time greats card (not sure of what set or year, a cleveland browns fleernfl hi-gloss patch 73 topps football #'s 116, 422, 511 79 topps football #'s 160 (dorsette) 400 (staubach) also have a couple of hundred 78 and 79 topps please send list thanks and let me know John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:41:34 -0400 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: autograph collectors Does anyone else in the group collect autographs thru the mail (TTM)? I have been doing this for many years. I have signed cards and photos from guys like Shantz, Piersall, Doerr, Virdon,Downing, Cavaretta and Lonborg just to name a few. My preference is the old players from the 50s and 60s on either a card or B&W picture. I am curious whether any of you collect autographs as well. Maybe we can share resources and trade secrets . Thanks for the read and have a nice day. Mark Holland OBC, Trading Bases & VCT Mark's Vintage Wantlist Vintage Any Condition Traders ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:20:39 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Availables Fellas -- A couple quick Dupes Box loners for anybody that wants them: 1969 Milton Bradley Jim McGlothlin, #186 1975 OPC Andre Thornton, #39 I remember reading about McGlothlin in Baseball Digest as a kid. It was an article about all the tragedies that seemed to hit the Angels. I can't remember them all, but McGlothlin was one of them, as he sided of leukemia when he was 32. I think the article came out after Lyman Bostock was murdered before a game in Chicago while playing with the Angels. They also had a couple players die in car accidents in the early seventies, but I can't remember their names. Thornton came up with the Cubs, so I always liked him. We gave him away one day for Larry Biittner, who never really panned out, but his name was interesting at least. And he pitched an inning one day at Wrigley and gotshelled, but struck out the side. Anyway, let me know if you want either one, or both! Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 07:22:20 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Availables How did the spell check turn "died" into "sided" for goodness sake...I needto turn that thing off. --- On Sun, 8/12/12, Geno Wagner wrote: From: Geno Wagner Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Availables To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 9:20 AM Fellas -- A couple quick Dupes Box loners for anybody that wants them: 1969 Milton Bradley Jim McGlothlin, #186 1975 OPC Andre Thornton, #39 I remember reading about McGlothlin in Baseball Digest as a kid. It was an article about all the tragedies that seemed to hit the Angels. I can't remember them all, but McGlothlin was one of them, as he sided of leukemia when he was 32. I think the article came out after Lyman Bostock was murdered before a game in Chicago while playing with the Angels. They also had a couple players die in car accidents in the early seventies, but I can't remember their names. Thornton came up with the Cubs, so I always liked him. We gave him away one day for Larry Biittner, who never really panned out, but his name was interesting at least. And he pitched aninning one day at Wrigley and got shelled, but struck out the side. Anyway, let me know if you want either one, or both! Take Care,Geno ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 13:06:40 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: cheap 41 Play Ball Foxx Only $25 BIN http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-Play-Ball-Jimmie-Foxx-Boston-Red-Sox-HOF-13-/380461966192 Good Luck! ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:45:43 -0400 To: LUURSCJG@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, yudts5@verizon.net From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 10 days of baseball joy! I guess I am the local guy that would have that information.....but I live within 2 miles of that cemetery and I've never gone over. In fact, the sitewhere he crashed is even closer to my house. Maybe it is because Munson was just part of the scenery around here. Even if you did not know him yourself, everybody knew somebody that went to school with him, or something. I remember when I bought my first house, he was sitting in the next glass cubicle over. The bank guy asked if I wanted to meet him, but I passed. Maybe Ishould have said hi. ---- LUURSCJG@aol.com wrote: > Even if your not a Yankees fan someone should of told you that about a mile > down the road was Thurman Munson grave. Being a former carcher I liked > his style > In a message dated 8/11/2012 2:23:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > yudts5@verizon.net writes: > Got back at 1 AM last night on trip that went from Got back to to > to to to to baseball and wasnis football hallowed grounds, but you get the point) > I only spent Wed and Thursday at the National, but it was as truly > incredible as all have described. Meeting so many OBC brethren and attending > show for the first time certainly more than re-sparked the card hobby > flame that summer slightly extinguished for the past 2 months. I did get > thanks out last Thursday when I returned, but only spent the last 4 hours > finally going through the cards and putting in binders and updating the > lists. Still a ways to go=E2=A6 Not only wasted the 71 set (thanks again, Nick) but > pretty much smashed most of the 2012 collecting goals that were still > left. I only need precisely 51 cards between the 60, 67, and 68 topps set > reach that goal. Was able to jump start a few other sets that are still=E2=9C > Haves=E2=9D and added new things like Jello=E2=99s, Posts, OPC=E2=99s > After a weekend family trip to After a w it was off on the 2012 baseball > trip. was first - perhaps the nicest stadium, but so hard to rank > them because they are all unique and really great places to watch games. > The usher that let us sit right behind home plate from the 6th inning on > though, wins an award in my book. And the backdrop of the downtown was perhaps > #1 as well. > Drove straight from Drove stra to to after the game. Stayed at a > pricey downtown hotel that was worth it, since we could walk everywhere. > Progressive field is huge, but unfortunately the crowd, and the team, were > lacking. Nevertheless, at $10 / ticket - def the best bargain of the week. > Indians almost broke their losing streak against the Twins, but much like > my home team Phillies, the bullpen allowed 3 in the 7th and 3 in the 9thto > snag defeat from the claws of victory, or something like that. > Off to Off to - and a meeting with the Foots! (see Thanks post to follow=E2=A6 > ). Our =E2=9Chost=E2=9D Mark Talbot, not only hit the mark with the > recommendation, the tickets purchased, but with cards and cards and cards. He met > us (my two boys, Noah and Eli) with a pack of cards for each, drove us to > the game where we drank and ate and drank some more (well at least Mark and > I did=E2=A6). We got in early enough to watch BP and Mark nearly gotplunked > with a home run ball or two during that. We met with Mike Rich and Earl > Kilbourn (and more cards!). My boys thoroughly enjoyed sitting in frontof > guy named =E2=9CMotormouth=E2=9D! Unfortunately, none of us enjoyed the Yankee > victory. The crowd was certainly the largest of the 3 and the most electric, > despite the large # of Yankees shirts and hats in attendance. Noah and I > each bought a Tigers shirt after the game. (Eli picked up a cool Indians > jersey the night before). > An extra day at the indoor water park North of Detroit coincided with the > first rainy day of the trip. Oh, and perhaps the best gift came from Mark > on Thursday evening - the minivan key I lost in his car Wed night! That > would=E2=99ve really sucked=E2=A6 Then it was off to Then i - which after all was > practically on the road home. It was no Cooperstown, but it was great to > visit the football It. > Looking forward to 2013 - another National and more stadium tours. BTW, > we are up to 9 stadiums now and although BTW, we not be the best (although it=E2=99s up there) - none of them touch thefood > choices we have in Philly!! (Can you tell I=E2=99m in cheesesteak withdrawal?) > Cheers! > OBC forever. > Matt Yudt ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:26:48 -0700 (PDT) To: trading bases , From: John Dahms Subject: a couple of Kaat's available for trade. picked up a 66 and a 62 topps Jim Kaat cards. both are in VG shape with the 62 being a VG+ if you are interested in these please let me know John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:29:41 -0700 (PDT) To: trading bases , From: John Dahms Subject: 72 topps Gayle Sayers available for trade. picked this up today, didn't need it so am offering it up to a new home. card would be a ex but corners a little soft if interested plmk John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 19:00:34 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Seattle Fellas -- I have always had to go to Abilene, TX once a year for my flight simulator training in the C-130. Abilene isn't horrible, but I'm pretty much done with it. Well, Dyess AFB switched over to the new C-130J, so they closedtheir sim. So I'll finally get a chance to go check out Seattle (McChord AFB)...and the NW OBC crowd. I don't have my sim times yet, but usually they are during the day. Maybe we can check out the M's or something. I'll be there Mon-Wed nights... Take Care,Geno ================= Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 02:13:23 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: National recap How can only 5 days contain so much. From the harrowing car ride to the airport (my 82 yr old dad drove me) to a smooth flight, and quick train to the convention center. As I was walking up to the center, I saw Mac, and we walked right to the dealer sign in, where I got 2 badges, handed one to Macand we were in the show moments later. While I was runinng into a few OBCers as I meandered through a few tables (I think I only made it to around 8tables in 5 hours). Steve had called me on my way to the airport, as he was already in the show, and had picked up a stack of Butterfingers for me, from Kevin Saveage. I stopped by Kevin's table and picked up a stack of W-517s, including Gehrig. I probably spent more at Kevin's tables than any other dealer during the show. I also made a purchase with Jerry Nelson and also Mac & I split a group of trimmed M-115 HOFers from Larry Kerrigan. Afterwards a dozen of us ended up going to dinner, where Sal met Stephanie for the photo you have seen. Thursday was more random meandering. Purchasesincluded a stack of 62 Salada BB coins from JD, a Series C OPC Hockey fromRandy Kniffin, a few 51 Topps Connie Mack All Stars and Major League All Stars from Kevin Savage, 1936 Goudeys, which I may have gotten from Jerry Nelson, if anyone is detecting a pattern here. I also got some misc. FB and 1951 Berk Ross from AJ Firestone of Ty's cards. Dinner was at an Irish Pub, the Tir Na Nog, where Mark Talbot showed up as we were finishing dinner and started flicking cards at folks. Friday saw even more OBCers show up, as I picked up a couple of Wilson meat cards, a few Tipton 10 Sports Kings, a big buy of prewar mainly British issues of odd sports, plus an album witha coule hundred 1936 Olympic cards. Finding checklists for thsi stuff willbe a mightly challenge. The partner at the table remembered me from the National 3 years ago, where I bought a 1938 Our National Game pin set from him. What a memory. He then proceeded to sell me a few FB matchbooks, along with a stack of 1960 Armour coins, getting me to within the shortprint Daley of completion. Mark Talbot came over and also bought a stack of the Armour coins (commons @ $4 and HOFers @ $5). This was my big day, as I started at the back of the show and worked my way forward. This organized approach helped me get to a lot more tables, where I could find some hidden gems. Mark and I found a table that sold all sports, and I picked up a BritishSporting Personalities set, some Loblow Hockey stamps, started a Harlem Globetrotters Phoenix Candy set, etc. At another table I found some 1936 Goudey Wide Pens and 1948 Kellogg's Pep cards. I had fun picking up some 1930s Cricketers cards, getting my 1939 set down to 3 (yes they were on my wantlists). While we had hoped to go to the ANtionals game on Friday nite, the logistics did not pan out. Some guys went tot he Net 54 dinner, a few others to Bubba Gumps (think Forrest Gump movie for shrimp) and a few of us went to Hooter's, upstairs from Bubba Gumos. The funny part at hiiter's, was that Ken morganti was running shy on cash, so while we each got an individual check, we gave Ken the cash and he charged them. They did it for 5 seperate charges. We can just picture his wife checking the credit card statement adn seeing all of the charges at Hooters! Saturday allowed me to getthough much of the remaining part of the show (still not finished). I made a purchase from Ron Estes, including a 1953 Glendale, bought a group of Bell Brand cards from Gary Nuchereno, and finished ome sets. Mark Talbot gave me the last T-218, I found the alst 2 1963-43 York hockey I needed (I had not seen a Faulkner outside a complete set in 8 years), then at 1 table the 1949 Leaf FB Luckman and the alst 4 1959 Armour Coins. 2 sets finished at 1 table and 4 for the day! Walked passed a table that had 1958 Topps BBfor $3 each. Normally I would keep on walking, but I saw a yellow letter on top. I stopped and ended up finding 5 yellow letters, and got a buy 4, get 1 free deal. Saturday night was the swap. 20 guys in a room full o fcards that you can just take, with food. Kent Goto made it extra special for me, with a stack of Red Man cards that he made feel that he brought just for Ken and I. I ransacked the stack and came away with 20 hits to my master set quest. Unbelievable. We did not do pack wars this year. We will need to bring that tradition back next year. Sunday, was not a full day at the show. I was able to get through the rest of the show, and pick up a group lot of SHirriff BB coins and a stack of R-312s, although that purchase was a little bittersweet. I had talked to the guy about a bigger deal, including some 1941 Goudeys. I told him I would be back in a 1/2 hour. I wasactually gone about 10 miuntes, and he sold the Giudeys when I was gone and then did not honor the price on the R-312s. I should have walked, but really wanted the stack as it had a Dimaggio. Last purchase was caving in and getting the 1950 Royal Dessert Joe Ostrowski to finish that set. I ended up finishing 7 sets, got another 5 sets to the 1 and done list, andgot 4 complete sets. A few more sets went from have lists to want lists. Mark Talbot and I had a flight back together. We had about a 4 hour delay,due to weather, but we made it back safe and sound. Great seeing everyone, meeting the new guys, as well as veterans such as Guru, who I had never met before. I am still recovering a week later. Am I glad I decied to go and hope everyone will plan on going to Chiacgo next year. Mike Rich ================= Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 07:19:12 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Another National come and gone... Hello All, The National Convention held in Baltimore was a huge success, I've already thanked those who made my trip extra special by giving me cardboard now I'dlike to share some personal highlights, among them: =E2=A2 First off it=E2=99s re all y the first National that I=E2=99ve attended that I flew in and I found that obviously a bit more expensive but it sure beats the 12 hour round trip to Chicago , though I was not able to bring all the stuff I usu all y bring to the swap. Plus my wife Donna was just fine with my taking such a vacation which I was very surprised of, perhaps 25 years of marriage has softened her disposition. =E2=A2 Adding a dozen names to the list of fellow traders that I have met was a definite high point . This year I met the following traders some who I have known for over a decade: Joe Adriance, Brian Betza , Jim Craig, Bryan Dwyer, Mark Gilmore, Steve Hitzeman, Bill List, Nick Pelletier, KenPillion, Wes Sheppard, Larry Tipton and Matt Yudts. This makes (64) traders that I have person all y met over the past decade or so =E2=93 amazing!!! =E2=A2 I was pleased that I spent as much time with members of the group as I did pawing through cardboard including a couple late nights with newbie=E2=99s Wes Sheppard and Mark Gilmore and of course the swap session. =E2=A2 It was great observing the next generation of parents hard atwork and feeling like we are going to be okay. Ken Morgantti was a PSA 10 Dad with his daughter for the week they were together =E2=93 quite impressive. Daughter Kyleigh was very well behaved certainly an indication of Ken and Stacy=E2=99s upbringing. Getting to know some new dealers and meeting with old ones is always a constant at the National. Plowing through bargain bins with Steve Rittenberg, Ed Schott, Sal Domino, Mike Rich, Bob Reed and the regulars is always a goodway to spend time at the National. So on the card front here are the big pick-ups this year: =E2=A2 `33 Goudey =E2=93 Moe Berg =E2=A2 `34 Goudey =E2=93 Luke Appling & Carl Hubbell =E2=A2 `38 Goudey =E2=93 Jim Bartell (type card) =E2=A2 `39 PlayB all =E2=93 Charlie Gehinger =E2=A2 `48 Leaf Boxing =E2=93 Jack Dempsey =E2=A2 `52 Bowman =E2=93 Willie Mays =E2=A2 `53 Topps =E2=93 Junior Gilliam (a Top 10 card) =E2=A2 `55 Topps =E2=93 Ted Williams =E2=A2 (22) Assorted `60 Armour Coins =E2=A2 (125) T-218 cards w/67 master set hits or upgrades When the dust had cleared I discovered I had finished the following sets: =E2=A2 1969 Topps Baseb all Decals =E2=A2 1970 - 71 Cocoa Puffs Harlem Globetrotters Basketb all =E2=A2 1970 - 71 Fleer Harlem Globetrotters Basketb all =E2=93 WHITE =E2=A2 1973 Fleer Baseb all Firsts =E2=A2 1975 - 76 Topps Basketb all As a result with the help of Wes Shepard, Ant Arbeeny & Richard Dingman in particular the following sets were added: =E2=A2 1947 Tip-Top Bread =E2=A2 1965 Topps Soupy Sales =E2=A2 1974 Wonder Bread Hanna Barbera Cards w/the Harlem Globe-trotters =E2=A2 1975 - 76 McDonald's Philadelphia 76'ers Stand-up Basketb all =E2=A2 1975 Topps Hysterical History cards & stickers It was a great deal of fun crammed into a short 72 hours, we did not make it to the b all game but I managed to enjoy myself just the same. The company was second to none and I can only hope that future Conventions will be just as well attended with friends from around the country. After missing last year I was happy to get back this year =E2=93 looking forward to Chicago in 2013. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------------------- MARK ================= Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:28:23 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Another National come and gone... Wait a minute.......there was a Soupy Sales trading card set??? Geez, Topps would try just about anything back in the day, wouldn't they? ps Sounds like you had a successful National, Mark!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 8:19 AM Subject: [OBC-National] Another National come and gone... Hello All, The National Convention held in Baltimore was a huge success, I've already thanked those who made my trip extra special by giving me cardboard now I'd like to share some personal highlights, among them: * First off it=E2=99s really the first National that I=E2=99ve attended that I flew in and I found that obviously a bit more expensive but it sure beats the 12 hour round trip to Chicago, though I was not able to bringall the stuff I usually bring to the swap. Plus my wife Donna was just fine with my taking such a vacation which I was very surprised of, perhaps 25 years of marriage has softened her disposition. * Adding a dozen names to the list of fellow traders that I have met was adefinite high point. This year I met the following traders some who I have known for over a decade: Joe Adriance, Brian Betza, Jim Craig, BryanDwyer, Mark Gilmore, Steve Hitzeman, Bill List, Nick Pelletier, Ken Pillion, Wes Sheppard, Larry Tipton and Matt Yudts. This makes (64) tradersthat I have personally met over the past decade or so =E2=93 amazing!!! * I was pleased that I spent as much time with members of the group as I did pawing through cardboard including a couple late nights with newbie=E2=99s Wes Sheppard and Mark Gilmore and of course the swap session. * It was great observing the next generation of parents hard at work and feeling like we are going to be okay. Ken Morgantti was a PSA 10 Dad with his daughter for the week they were together =E2=93 quite impressive. Daughter Kyleigh was very well behaved certainly an indication of Ken and Stacy=E2=99s upbringing. Getting to know some new dealers and meeting with old ones is always a constant at the National. Plowing through bargain bins with Steve Rittenberg, Ed Schott, Sal Domino, Mike Rich, Bob Reed and the regulars is always a good way to spend time at the National. So on the card front here are the big pick-ups this year: * `33 Goudey =E2=93 Moe Berg * `34 Goudey =E2=93 Luke Appling & Carl Hubbell * `38 Goudey =E2=93 Jim Bartell (type card) * `39 PlayBall =E2=93 Charlie Gehinger * `48 Leaf Boxing =E2=93 Jack Dempsey * `52 Bowman =E2=93 Willie Mays * `53 Topps =E2=93 Junior Gilliam (a Top 10 card) * `55 Topps =E2=93 Ted Williams * (22) Assorted `60 Armour Coins * (125) T-218 cards w/67 master set hits or upgrades When the dust had cleared I discovered I had finished the following sets: * 1969 Topps Baseball Decals * 1970 - 71 Cocoa Puffs Harlem Globetrotters Basketball * 1970 - 71 Fleer Harlem Globetrotters Basketball =E2=93 WHITE BACKS * 1973 Fleer Baseball Firsts * 1975 - 76 Topps Basketball As a result with the help of Wes Shepard, Ant Arbeeny & Richard Dingman in particular the following sets were added: * 1947 Tip-Top Bread * 1965 Topps Soupy Sales * 1974 Wonder Bread Hanna Barbera Cards w/the Harlem Globe-trotters * 1975 - 76 McDonald's Philadelphia 76'ers Stand-up Basketball * 1975 Topps Hysterical History cards & stickers It was a great deal of fun crammed into a short 72 hours, we did not make it to the ballgame but I managed to enjoy myself just the same. The company was second to none and I can only hope that future Conventions will be just as well attended with friends from around the country. After missing last year I was happy to get back this year =E2=93 looking forward to Chicago in 2013. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------------------- MARK ================= Date: 13 Aug 2012 16:23:52 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the OBC-Ramblings File : /Nationals 2012/P1070378.JPG Uploaded by : kevin71058 Description : views of the National You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/files/Nationals%202012/P1070378.JPG To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html kevin71058 ================= Date: 13 Aug 2012 16:25:00 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the OBC-Ramblings File : /Nationals 2012/P1070398.JPG Uploaded by : kevin71058 Description : views of the nationals You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/files/Nationals%202012/P1070398.JPG To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html kevin71058 ================= Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:27:56 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Baltimore National Pictures are now on the OBC Home page (Yahoo) under files Hi all, Just put over 30 pictures of the National up under files on the Yahoo home page for your viewing. Enjoy the show as much as I did. Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:00:35 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Late National Ramble/Thanks Very late with my National post and thanks, as its been crazy at work. Had a great time in Baltimore looking at, all the great memorabilia, buying a few cards and meeting up with old OBCers. Highlight was my first ever Swap session. Note to self, next time take a sharpie and writer the givers name on the card saver. I got a ton of cards that I don't know where they came from, but I am pretty sure of this; Kent Goto - A few Red Men Andy Cook - Some 1920 Caramels including Joe Wood and T207 Hall Mac - 75 minis Steve R - 50+ Exhibits and misc other cards including a 38 Goudey Mike Rich - 75 minis Mark T/KevinM/Richard D - a few 60 and 64 Topps And a few that I'm sure I've forgot - I'm sorry. Definitely a great time. If you ever get a chance to go to a National I highly recommend it! Thanks Guys! Thanks OBC! ================= To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:10:13 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: T218? Picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sheppard_defeats_Wilson_in_1500m.jpg The picture below shows Melvin Sheppard defeating HA Wilson in the 1908 Olympics. Interesting that this one picture was used for each individual card in the T218 (I think that's the designation) set. OK, back to work ================= Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:45:02 +0000 (UTC) To: Bob Donaldson From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T218? Picture Yes Bob, I can verify that that is indeed the photo used to create the T-218 card ofHA Wilson - interesting indeed. REGARDS ---------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Donaldson" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 3:10:13 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T218? Picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sheppard_defeats_Wilson_in_1500m.jpg The picture below shows Melvin Sheppard defeating HA Wilson in the 1908 Olympics. Interesting that this one picture was used for each individual card in the T218 (I think that=E2=99s the designation) set. OK, back to work ================= To: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:13:18 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Sad day for MLB RIP Johnny ================= To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:13:23 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National recap For those that are amused that I go after so many sets, a few of us, such as John Scott Gray have checked how many vintage sets we can get hits to at the national. This year, I did not have my challenge match with John, as he was not present (best of luck to Jo) which is usually around 100 vintage sets. This year I ended up with hits to between 115 - 120 different sets. With 7 sets completed, and 4 complete sets obtained, it will make it ever tougher to hit such heights in the future. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 10:13 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National recap How can only 5 days contain so much. From the harrowing car ride to the airport (my 82 yr old dad drove me) to a smooth flight, and quick train to the convention center. As I was walking up to the center, I saw Mac, and we walked right to the dealer sign in, where I got 2 badges, handed one to Macand we were in the show moments later. While I was runinng into a few OBCers as I meandered through a few tables (I think I only made it to around 8tables in 5 hours). Steve had called me on my way to the airport, as he was already in the show, and had picked up a stack of Butterfingers for me, from Kevin Saveage. I stopped by Kevin's table and picked up a stack of W-517s, including Gehrig. I probably spent more at Kevin's tables than any other dealer during the show. I also made a purchase with Jerry Nelson and also Mac & I split a group of trimmed M-115 HOFers from Larry Kerrigan. Afterwards a dozen of us ended up going to dinner, where Sal met Stephanie for the photo you have seen. Thursday was more random meandering. Purchases included a stack of 62 Salada BB coins from JD, a Series C OPC Hockey from Randy Kniffin, a few 51 Topps Connie Mack All Stars and Major League All Stars from Kevin Savage, 1936 Goudeys, which I may have gotten from Jerry Nelson, if anyone is detecting a pattern here. I also got some misc. FB and1951 Berk Ross from AJ Firestone of Ty's cards. Dinner was at an Irish Pub, the Tir Na Nog, where Mark Talbot showed up as we were finishing dinner and started flicking cards at folks. Friday saw even more OBCers show up, as I picked up a couple of Wilson meat cards, a few Tipton 10 Sports Kings,a big buy of prewar mainly British issues of odd sports, plus an album with a coule hundred 1936 Olympic cards. Finding checklists for thsi stuff willbe a mightly challenge. The partner at the table remembered me from the National 3 years ago, where I bought a 1938 Our National Game pin set from him. What a memo ry. He then proceeded to sell me a few FB matchbooks, along with a stack of 1960 Armour coins, getting me to within the shortprint Daley of completion. Mark Talbot came over and also bought a stack of the Armour coins (commons @ $4 and HOFers @ $5). This was my big day, as I started at the back of the show and worked my way forward. This organized approach helped me get to a lot more tables, where I could find some hidden gems. Mark and I found a table that sold all sports, and I picked up a British Sporting Personalities set, some Loblow Hockey stamps, started a Harlem Globetrotters Phoenix Candy set, etc. At another table I found some 1936 Goudey Wide Pens and 1948 Kellogg's Pep cards. I had fun picking up some 1930s Cricketers cards, getting my 1939 set down to 3 (yes they were on my wantlists). While we had hoped to go to the ANtionals game on Friday nite, the logistics did not pan out. Some guys went tot he Net 54 dinner, a few others to Bubba Gumps (think For rest Gump movie for shrimp) and a few of us went to Hooter's, upstairs from Bubba Gumos. The funny part at hiiter's,was that Ken morganti was running shy on cash, so while we each got an individual check, we gave Ken the cash and he charged them. They did it for 5seperate charges. We can just picture his wife checking the credit card statement adn seeing all of the charges at Hooters! Saturday allowed me to get though much of the remaining part of the show (still not finished). I made a purchase from Ron Estes, including a 1953 Glendale, bought a group of Bell Brand cards from Gary Nuchereno, and finished ome sets. Mark Talbotgave me the last T-218, I found the alst 2 1963-43 York hockey I needed (Ihad not seen a Faulkner outside a complete set in 8 years), then at 1 table the 1949 Leaf FB Luckman and the alst 4 1959 Armour Coins. 2 sets finished at 1 table and 4 for the day! Walked passed a table that had 1958 ToppsBB for $3 each. Normally I would keep on walk ing, but I saw a yellow letter on top. I stopped and ended up finding 5 yellow letters, and got a buy4, get 1 free deal. Saturday night was the swap. 20 guys in a room full o fcards that you can just take, with food. Kent Goto made it extra special for me, with a stack of Red Man cards that he made feel that he brought just for Ken and I. I ransacked the stack and came away with 20 hits to my master set quest. Unbelievable. We did not do pack wars this year. We will need to bring that tradition back next year. Sunday, was not a full dayat the show. I was able to get through the rest of the show, and pick up a group lot of SHirriff BB coins and a stack of R-312s, although that purchase was a little bittersweet. I had talked to the guy about a bigger deal,including some 1941 Goudeys. I told him I would be back in a 1/2 hour. Iwas actually gone about 10 miuntes, and he sold the Giudeys when I was gone and then did not honor the price on the R-312s. I should ha ve walked, but really wanted the stack as it had a Dimaggio. Last purchase was caving in and getting the 1950 Royal Dessert Joe Ostrowski to finish that set. I ended up finishing 7 sets, got another 5 sets to the 1 and done list, andgot 4 complete sets. A few more sets went from have lists to want lists. Mark Talbot and I had a flight back together. We had about a 4 hour delay,due to weather, but we made it back safe and sound. Great seeing everyone, meeting the new guys, as well as veterans such as Guru, who I had never met before. I am still recovering a week later. Am I glad I decied to go and hope everyone will plan on going to Chiacgo next year. Mike Rich ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:42:09 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: National Recap After returning home from the National last Sunday, I found out I had a fewsoftball makeup games. Two on Monday, one on Tuesday and two on Wednesdayso I didn't even start going through my cards until Thursday. I'm also inthe process of putting a dormer on my garage and my wife informed me when I was an hour away from home that the tarp had blown half off and rain was getting into the garage. Spent two hours after I got home to fix that and worked on it this past weekend. I now have some time to give my recap. I arrived in Baltimore around 7:30 on Thursday. Got a call just before 8:00 from my roommate, Mark Talbot, that a group of OBCers were just finishingup dinner and that he should get to the room within a hour. Well, he mustof taken the scenic route because it was well after 10:00 when he got to the room. That gave me some time to pull cards for some people because I didn't prepare myself ahead of time. As it is I only got cards for about 1/2of those in attendence so I will try to make up for that soon. When Mark arrived, we greeted each other with cards and made some small talk about our trips down to Baltimore. Got to meet Wes Shepard later that night and wepassed a few cards to each other. Ken Morganti stopped by for a visit as well. Got up Friday and had breakfast where we ran into Ron Perry and Ken Pillion. Hopped on the train and got to the show around 10:00. Met up with some other OBCers including meeting Larry Tipton. Once inside, Taylor Schock couldn't wait to find me. He said he had a 300 card Conlon set for me and another 100+ hits to a UV set. He happily passed the cards off to me which Ithen had to lug around for another 8 hours. My back was sore by the end of the day, thanks Taylor! ;-) After the show let out the group split up with 1/3 going to the Net 54 dinner, 1/3 went to Bubba Gumps and the rest of us visited Hooters where we watched the Archery event in the Olympics and did some live judging for the Hula Hoop competition that took place next to our table. Got back to the hotel (thanks to Sal and Ken M.) and was joined by another visitor, Mark Gilmore from VCT who finished off my second 1977 set. Saturday got to the show a little earlier and proceeded to spend over $100 at Danny Phillips table in about 20 minutes. Spent the rest of the day trying to pace myself so I'd still have some money left for Sunday. Met Joe Adriance who was nice enough to give me a ride back to my car that I parked at the train station. I was one of the first ones to arrive at the swap which was conviently 3 doors down from my room. Noticed that Larry Tipton had put some Tipton Hall of Fame cards on displayed. I mentioned that I needed one of them for my set (see attached photos). I did replace itwith a 1952 Topps Billy Martin which was trimmed down to the size of a 1950 Bowman. That card ended up in somebody's box as well before the night was out. As others have mentioned, the swap is the highlight of the week. Cards were flying back and forth and it's nearly impossible to know what yougot from who. I tried my best to keep track but after summarizing all of the cards purchased and swapped I still have about 20 cards missing and another 10 or so that I don't know where they came from. Went to the show on Sunday and it was suppose to stay open until 5:00 but alot of dealers started closing up at 3:00 so I headed out then as well. Didn't see any white hats on my way out but it was great seeing them all while I was there. I liked the way Mark Talbot summarized his additions so I'll do the same thing. My big acquistions were: `51 Bowman - Ted Williams [Danny Phillips] `53 Bowman Color - Yogi Berra [William Chappell] `54 Bowman - Yogi Berra [Andy Cook at the swap] `52 Topps - Hoyt Wilhelm [Larry Tipton at the swap] `62 Topps Green Tints - Numerous Cards [Kent Goto/Sal Domino] `53 Bowman Color - Martin and Spahn [Kurt T's partner, Jerry] `12 Heritage SP - 45 of them for $80.00 [unknown dealer] In addition to knocking two sets under 10 and four others down to 11, I finished the following seven sets: 1977 Topps 2nd Set - League Leaders [Mark Gilmore] 1981-82 Topps Basketball - 11 cards [Anthony Arbeeney] 1975-76 Topps Basketball - Tom Henderson [Just Collect] 1966 Philadelphia Football - Packers Team [Uncle Dick] 19?? Conlon Series Three - Whole Set [Taylor Shock] 1969 FB Stamps - Willie Richardson [Mark Talbot] 1971 Fleer World Series - 5 cards [Jerry w/help from Larry Tipton and SteveR.] And the following sets were added: 1963 Topps Baseball Peel Off Inserts 1970 Kelloggs 3D Football 1967 Philadelphia Football Maybe another football set (either 1957 Topps, 1961 Topps, or 1964 Philadelphia) Possible the 1971 Arco Phillies set (have four of them now). All in all it was a great show and I enjoy it very much. Nice to see a lotof the regulers and to finally meet some new friends: Wes Shepard, Taylor Schock (who I met before he was in OBC), ex member Bill List, Steve Hitzeman, Larry Tipton, and Joe Adriance. Hopefully I can make the trip to Chicago next year. It's after midnight sothe Thanks Email will have to wait until tomorrow.-Bob ================= Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:09:15 +0000 (UTC) To: Bob Donaldson From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T218? Picture As a t218 collector, that is very cool to see. Thanks Bob. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Donaldson" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:10:13 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T218? Picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sheppard_defeats_Wilson_in_1500m.jpg The picture below shows Melvin Sheppard defeating HA Wilson in the 1908 Olympics. Interesting that this one picture was used for each individualcard in the T218 (I think that=E2=99s the designation) set. OK, back to work ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" , Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 07:41:06 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Seattle Me thinks the M's are playing a matinee game on WED Aug 22 before leaving for the road. I've got to run now, but I've been thinking about playing hooky from work and driving up... Talk soon OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:00 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Seattle Fellas -- I have always had to go to Abilene, TX once a year for my flight simulator training in the C-130. Abilene isn't horrible, but I'm pretty muchdone with it. Well, Dyess AFB switched over to the new C-130J, so they closed their sim. So I'll finally get a chance to go check out Seattle (McChord AFB)...and the NW OBC crowd. I don't have my sim times yet, but usually they are during the day. Maybe we can check out the M's or something. I'll be there Mon-Wed nights... Take Care, ================= To: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 15:51:03 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: '52 Bowman lot available from Danny Phillips Danny Phillips let me know he has a 37 card lot of '52 Bowmans available tosell. Anyone interested please contact him at dphill3@columbus.rr.com asap. Here is the info he sent me yesterday: "I have a small group of '52 Bowmans ready to sell. All have tape marks or some paper loss. Book price is $1845.00 my price is $140.00 37 total cards: includes following stars: Musial,Spahn,Jensen,Irvin,Newcombe,Garagiola,Schoendist,McDougald,Rizzuto,Kell,Hodges,Bauer,& Good luck! OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest =95 Unsubscribe =95 Terms of Use ================= To: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:11:11 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: Danny Phillips email list Danny Phillips asks that if anyone wants to be put on his list of upcoming show announcements, they should send him their email. Here is what he said: "I am accumulating a small e-mail list from the OBC group. If you want, you may let them know that if they would like to included for future e-mails concerning shows I'll be attending just e-mail me and I'll put them in my OBC contact group. Danny" His email is dphill3@columbus.rr.com His was a very popular table at the recent National, with stuffed boxes of 90% off cards. It's likely that most all OBCers found something from theseboxes. I'm looking forward to his next show. Richard D Your Group OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest =95 Unsubscribe =95 Terms of Use ================= Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:16:11 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mike diamanti Subject: El Perfecto by the King Well Gals & Guys: Sometimes daytime TV is not as boring as you would imagine... After starting to watch today's Mariner game, beginning in the third inning, against Tampa Bay, I was treated to Felix (The King) Hernandez pitching a gem of a perfect game. His curveball was insanely sick, and his slider and change-up were there whenever he needed it. My total apologies to any and all Tampa Bay fans ---- the rest of you, watch Baseball Tonight for what I would argue is one of the best games this Coffedude (I am SOOO PSYCHED!) Mike Diamanti PS In another losing season, this was AWESOME..... ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:24:52 -0400 (EDT) To: dphill3@columbus.rr.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: 52 Bowmans Hi Danny, Sal from OBC. One of the guys posted that you have a 37 card lot of 52 Bowman's. I'm down to 34 needed. Any way you can list the cards/numbers? If I need only half, maybe I can get another OBCer involved and split it or if you are willing to break the lot. Thanks for everything at the National! ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:55:23 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Autographed ball On further examination, I'm edging away from thinking that the autograph onthe ball sent to me by Mac is Billy Martin. After checking out other Martin signatures online, there are some similarities but I'm not convinced. I've attached a photo of said ball. Any ideas? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:07:24 -0500 To: From: Christophersons Subject: Re: Autographed ball That's Paul Molitor's scribble on the ball Glenn received. ================= To: , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:51:11 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Autographed ball Indeed it is...weird pair of guys to be on a ball...they were doing a signing on the Hill for some group...I think Jim Kaat was there too. I couldn'tget in, but some friends managed to get it for me (well for Glenn). To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jschris@triwest.net Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 09:07:24 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Autographed ball That's Paul Molitor's scribble on the ball Glenn received. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 12:34:18 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Photo added I've added my ugly mug to the Photos section of the OBC Ramblings Yahoo!Groups page. Very simple and painless. It'd be great to see more members get their photos posted. It's always great to put a face to a name! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:55:41 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Someone at the Nationals gave me 2 nice looking Mets Game Used cards.. Hi all, Someone at the Nationals gave me 2 Game Used Mets cards, one being an Auto,the other being a Patch card. Nice cards!! I am sorry I forgot who gave me these cards..please raise you hand so I canthank you properly. Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 20:13:15 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Short trip to San Diego Planning a couple of days in SD with the family before school starts. Unfortunately can't take a lot of time off work so the trip will be really short. Just taking the family to CA to see the beach, which they miss a lot, and Sea World. Arriving late on Tues Aug 21 and leaving around noon on Fri Aug 24. Padres are in town but the only game is an afternoon game Wed. Not sure I can make that but you never know. Hoping to meet up with Ed Watts whom I believe is the only OBCer in that immediate vicinity. A bunch up in the LA area but that's a 2 hour drive and I will probablyonly have an hour or so on Wed or Thurs evening to meet. If you are available Ed and anyone else who will be in the area, let me know. OBC is the Greatest, Lynn ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:54:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "tjv815" Subject: Back with the parents Well, After filling two PODS, and a few vehicles, the family and I are out of our house. We will be staying with my parents until the end of the month, when we have the closing on our new house. I have changed the address in the directory, listing my temporary address with my parents. But, if youhave something you were looking to ship out, I would ask that you please hold until we get into our new house. Thank you. ================= To: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:19:41 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: '54 bowman color #93 Ok, one of you guys wanted this card from me.... who was it? ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:26:56 -0700 (PDT) To: uvlist@yahoogroups.com From: Dan Angland Subject: 2003 Donruss Starter sets available or singles My friends, Anybody interested in starting this set, or needs some availables, I have many I have a slew from the Rob Fitts haul. Let me know, no return fire necessary. New guys please don't be shy. Please include your address. Have an OBC weekend. Dan Angland ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:05:41 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Michael" Subject: Good day at the card show Went to the Westchester County Center card show today and picked up a ton of cards. Completed my 1965 topps embossed set by getting my very first Mickey Mantle card. Came very close to completing my 1973 and 1974 topps setsand also found most of the gremlings that somehow are missing from my 1980topps set (still missing #424 yankees checklist). also got to meet fellowobc'er Richard Dingman. Lots of tables at this show, but I only felt as if only two of them had good prices. I really liked the one run by George DiBendetto called Lotsa Good Stuff, which is in the back corner on the rightif you are looking from the front entrance. If anyone else is going, enjoy. Mike Dillon ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:19:24 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: San Diego Trip Ed Watts and I have tentatively set up to meet at 7PM, Wed Aug 22 at Miguel's, a Mexican place just West of the I-5 off of the Palomar Airport Road exit, 5980 Avenida Encinas (at Palomar Airport Rd) Carlsbad. If anyone else can make it would be great to see you and we can all meet Ed. I would like to know who might be able to attend so I can prepare ;>) OBC is the Greatest, Lynn ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:40:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Delott Subject: off grade bowman collectors Ebay has a deal on a 1952 Musial http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item170897547724&ssPageNameADME:B:SS:US:1123 Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 12:13:36 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: typical OBC assistance needed As a group, we have given all sorts of advice, how to free cards from slabbed tombs, eliminate odors from cards, remove paper from the backs of cards, flatten curled cards, etc. I do not recall ever seeing any advice on oneof the most vicious of all collecting maladies; GREMLINS! How do you eliminate them. I have been trying to file away all my pick-ups from the National. While I have not yet given up finding these elusive gremlins, which Ihope are playing hide and seek, I have discovered at least 2 sets that I thought I finished, may not be complete. One set, is missing a tough shortprint, and the other set, 2 commons. I have 2 long time, big time, gremlins, I still have not found. Any advice on how to prevent this in the future is most welcome. From reading the servers, I think I am not the only one in need of this cure. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 05:46:49 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan , From: Chris Stufflestreet Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed My only suggestion is this: when you think you've finished off a set, look through the pages in the binder (all my cards are in binders; yours might be different) and make sure there aren't any pesky holes where cards should be. That's probably a good rule to follow when you're down to the last 10-20 cards...make sure the holes are where you expect them to be. And if a gremlin falls out while you're looking, take that binder and smashit flat. Kill that SOB before he can grab another card from you. Take care, Check out my Blogs: 1970s Music Mayhem - http://70smusicmayhem.blogspot.com/ Vintage Sportscards - http://thevintagesportscards.blogspot.com/ 1973 Topps Set - http://1973toppsphotography.blogspot.com/ From: mikesportsfan To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:13 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed As a group, we have given all sorts of advice, how to free cards from slabbed tombs, eliminate odors from cards, remove paper from the backs of cards, flatten curled cards, etc. I do not recall ever seeing any advice on oneof the most vicious of all collecting maladies; GREMLINS! How do you eliminate them. I have been trying to file away all my pick-ups from the National. While I have not yet given up finding these elusive gremlins, which Ihope are playing hide and seek, I have discovered at least 2 sets that I thought I finished, may not be complete. One set, is missing a tough shortprint, and the other set, 2 commons. I have 2 long time, big time, gremlins, I still have not found. Any advice on how to prevent this in the future is most welcome. From reading the servers, I think I am not the only one in need of this cure. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 06:31:09 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed Actually I believe the Gremlins in question here are actually Gegimines whoare impish little people who like to play tricks via hiding or misplacing things. Although a "cure" is not possible, one can temporarily thwart these mischievous rascals by a trip to Ireland to Kiss the Lia Fail aka the Blarney Stone. Inso doing you create an aura around all of your possessions that prohibitGegimines from their spontaneous materialization. Of course in your case Mikeit may be time for you to hire a curator and archivistforThe Rich Museum of Trading Cards and Sports Memorabilia. "we keep what we give away!" From: mikesportsfan To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, August 18, 2012 8:13:42 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed As a group, we have given all sorts of advice, how to free cards from slabbed tombs, eliminate odors from cards, remove paper from the backs of cards, flatten curled cards, etc. I do not recall ever seeing any advice on one of the most vicious of all collecting maladies; GREMLINS! How do you eliminate them. I have been trying to file away all my pick-ups from the National. While I have not given up finding these elusive gremlins, which I hope are playing hide and seek, I have discovered at least 2 sets that I thought I finished, may not be complete. One set, is missing a tough shortprint, and the other set, 2 commons. I have 2 long time, big time, gremlins, I still have not found. Any advice on how to prevent this in the future is most welcome. From reading the servers, think I am not the only one in need of this cure. Mike Rich ================= To: Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 09:32:27 -0500 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Re: typical OBC assistance needed Gremlins. I've found a good way to avoid them is to not look for them. Heck, if your wantlist shows that you are complete, that's good enough for me. No sense thumbing through a bunch of cardboard. Despite this good advice, I have not followed it and noted I'm missing a 1949 Dodger$ team exhibit. Nuts. George Vrechek ================= To: "'mikesportsfan'" , Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:31:54 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed Did you check the brief case? From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:14 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed As a group, we have given all sorts of advice, how to free cards from slabbed tombs, eliminate odors from cards, remove paper from the backs of cards, flatten curled cards, etc. I do not recall ever seeing any advice on one of the most vicious of all collecting maladies; GREMLINS! How do you eliminate them. I have been trying to file away all my pick-ups from the National. While I have not yet given up finding these elusive gremlins, which I hope are playing hide and seek, I have discovered at least 2 sets that I thought I finished, may not be complete. One set, is missing a tough shortprint, and the other set, 2 commons. I have 2 long time, big time, gremlins, I still have not found. Any advice on how to prevent this in the future is most welcome. From reading the servers, I think I am not the only one in need of this cure. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 12:05:19 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings From: Bob Donaldson Subject: Upcoming New England Shows Here's on in September 8th & 9th, 10 min from my house! http://www.vspsports.com/HG-show-info.php Hilton Garden Inn Burlington 5 Wheeler Road, Burlington, Ma Also, its never too early to plan for the Shriner's Show Nov 2-4 http://www.alepposhriners.com/events.html Hope to see you there! ================= To: , Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:45:24 -0400 From: Subject: 1981 Cincinnati Reds Coke Sets Hi Everyone I have just found 3 1981 Coke Cincinnati Reds Coke sets, first 3 to respondget one. Please let me know. Nick Covello ================= To: yudts5@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 21:01:17 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed The much maligned briefcase cannot share any of the blame as the missing cards were not among my national haul. I supposedly had these for some time,and only when verifying the set was complete was their absence/escape noticed. As for Eek's suggestion of an archivist, it may be time for the current oneto retire due to poor eye sight. After sending the inital message this morning, I filed away more of the national haul, and verified a few Bazooka checklists. I had to update the 1963 - 1967 Bazooka lists as none of them matched my records. Namely, the cards are hard to tell which year is which,and they were filed in the wrong years, or I mis-read some numbers. Overall, the number I had did not change, just which ones on the list for which year. It even caused me to move the 1963 set to a want from have list. Onthe positve side, I was looking through some other cards and albums, and arandom Herb Pennock postcard size card I had, which had never been cataloged, I realized was a hit to my just started 1929 Kashin set. So while I bought 1 at the show, got 2 at the swap from Bob Donaldson, and now have found a 4th. Only 97 more to go! I also found some MSA discs that I had not added to the checklists. I knowmost will find this difficult to believe with all the sets I do have listed, but there are a significant number of sets that I have a few hits to, that I have never added to my on line lists. I try to keep the on line liststo "just" those I plan/hope on working on! As more sets get closer, it will give me more to add, so the lists do not get too small or challenging. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matt Yudt To: 'mikesportsfan' ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 11:31 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed Did you check the brief case? From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan Sent: Saturday, August 18, 20128:14 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] typicalOBC assistance needed As a group, we have given all sorts of advice, how tofree cards from slabbed tombs, eliminate odors from cards, remove paper fromthe backs of cards, flatten curled cards, etc. I do not recall ever seeing anyadvice on one of the most vicious of all collecting maladies; GREMLINS! How doyou eliminate them. I have been trying to file away all my pick-ups from theNational. While I have not yet given up finding these elusive gremlins, which Ihope are playing hide and seek, I have discovered at least 2 sets that Ithought I finished, may not be complete. One set, is missing a toughshortprint, and the other set, 2 commons. I have 2 long time, big time,gremlins, I still have not found. Any advice on how to prevent this in thefuture is most welcome. From reading the servers, I think I am not the only onein need of this cure. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:53:17 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed Content-Language: en I suggest ginkoba.... I just need to remember where I put the damn things... :-) In a message dated 8/18/2012 9:01:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikesportsfan@aol.com writes: The much maligned briefcase cannot share any of the blame as the missing cards were not among my national haul. I supposedly had these for some time, and only when verifying the set was complete was their absence/escape As for Eek's suggestion of an archivist, it may be time for the current one to retire due to poor eye sight. After sending the inital message this morning, I filed away more of the national haul, and verified a few Bazooka checklists. I had to update the 1963 - 1967 Bazooka lists as none of them matched my records. Namely, the cards are hard to tell which year is which, and they were filed in the wrong years, or I mis-read some numbers. Overall, the number I had did not change, just which ones on the list for which year. It even caused me to move the 1963 set to a want from have list. On the positve side, I was looking through some other cards and albums, and a random Herb Pennock postcard size card I had, which had never been cataloged, I realized was a hit to my just started 1929 Kashin set. So while bought 1 at the show, got 2 at the swap from Bob Donaldson, and now have found a 4th. Only 97 more to go! I also found some MSA discs that I had not added to the checklists. I know most will find this difficult to believe with all the sets I do have listed, but there are a significant number of sets that I have a few hits to, that I have never added to my on line lists. I try to keep the on line lists to "just" those I plan/hope on working on! As more sets get closer,it will give me more to add, so the lists do not get too small or challenging. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Matt Yudt To: 'mikesportsfan' ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Aug 18, 2012 11:31 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed Did you check the brief case? From: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) [_mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?) ] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:14 AM To: _OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] typical OBC assistance needed As a group, we have given all sorts of advice, how to free cards from slabbed tombs, eliminate odors from cards, remove paper from the backs of cards, flatten curled cards, etc. I do not recall ever seeing any advice on of the most vicious of all collecting maladies; GREMLINS! How do you eliminate them. I have been trying to file away all my pick-ups from the National. While I have not yet given up finding these elusive gremlins, which hope are playing hide and seek, I have discovered at least 2 sets that I thought I finished, may not be complete. One set, is missing a tough shortprint, and the other set, 2 commons. I have 2 long time, big time, gremlins, I still have not found. Any advice on how to prevent this in the future is most welcome. From reading the servers, I think I am not the only one in need of this cure. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 11:59:18 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Reminder Just a gentle reminder to all members...... When sending out messages to any of the servers - especially the Thanks server - please remember to sign your name. With a membership of well over 100, it can be a bit tricky to recognise everyone based on their email address! On behalf of the OBC AC Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:13:47 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show As Mike said, I also attended this show for a few hours on Friday. I was able to squeeze my week's work in Pittsburgh into 4 days, and eke out some hours in White Plains on Friday on my way back to home in western Mass. Theshow began slowly. I arrived earlier than I had planned and was at the ticket window 1/2 hour before opening (11am). Normally there is a line of a dozen or two at that time, but nobody else was there. By opening, there were perhaps 25 folks in line, no white hats. A quick tour of the room (it was held upstairs thankfully) revealed only a couple vintage bargain boxes, and I began to feel like the day would be a loss. But after an hour or so,I found a couple tables that generally had higher priced vintage in highergrades, but significantly discounted the odd low grade card as being barely worth collecting. So besides a handful of '61 and '66 high numbers for around $2 each, I found a '53 Topps high number (Foiles, I believe) that I needed, that booked at $100, marked at $8. When I went purchase it, the dealer said it should be $18, but in fact he had inadvertantly left out the "1". I said ok, too bad, but then, with no prodding, not only did he offer to give it to me at the price marked, he discounted it another dollar since I bought a stack of miscut cards out of his "8 for a dollar" box!! Love those volume discounts!! So I was able to get a very decent g/vg card I needed at 7%. That dealer's name was Mike, but I never got a last name. He had mostly high grade stuff and was continually relating a story of how an old woman had come into his store and presented some early 60s cards that were fresh from packs, and that went on to grade at 8s and 9s. My ears began to hurt as he harangued every passer-by, and I almost left his booth early,but glad I didn't. Another dealer, the same one that Mike mentions below, George D, was very talkative with everyone while Mike and I were ransacking his bargain boxes, and I was prepared to find that his bluster about pricing everything to sell fast would evaporate when the rubber hit the road, but I was proved wrongwhen he also gave substantial discounts for some reasonable semi-star cards in low, but not awful, grades. So it was good to see another OBCer thereand also to end up with probably 120-150 cards, mostly miscuts (including my first Bionic Woman miscut), 6 vintage SP hi numbers and a few hits for 2nd and 3rd sets, for just $40. I won't go to every White Plains show (there are 5 each year), but once or twice per year seems to still provide enough finds to justify the time, and there's always the odd OBCer to boot! Did anyone else show up - Rob maybe? Best to all, Richard D - still not fully recovered from the National ... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mp1067@Hotmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:05:41 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show Went to the Westchester County Center card show today and picked up a ton of cards. Completed my 1965 topps embossed set by getting my very first Mickey Mantle card. Came very close to completing my 1973 and 1974 topps sets and also found most of the gremlings that somehow are missing from my 1980 topps set (still missing #424 yankees checklist). also got to meet fellow obc'er Richard Dingman. Lots of tables at this show, but I only felt as if only two of them had good prices. I really liked the one run by George DiBendetto called Lotsa Good Stuff, which is in the back corner on the right if you are looking from the front entrance. If anyone else is going, enjoy. Mike Dillon ================= To: brightair@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show I have periodically been called KOOC (King Of Oddball Cards). Rarely, haveI been directly called odd by another OBCer. Sorry Mike Dillon for you being referenced as odd. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: richard dingman To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:13 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show As Mike said, I also attended this show for a few hours on Friday. I was able to squeeze my week's work in Pittsburgh into 4 days, and eke out some hours in White Plains on Friday on my way back to home in western Mass. Theshow began slowly. I arrived earlier than I had planned and was at the ticket window 1/2 hour before opening (11am). Normally there is a line of a dozen or two at that time, but nobody else was there. By opening, there were perhaps 25 folks in line, no white hats. A quick tour of the room (it was held upstairs thankfully) revealed only a couple vintage bargain boxes, and I began to feel like the day would be a loss. But after an hour or so,I found a couple tables that generally had higher priced vintage in highergrades, but significantly discounted the odd low grade card as being barely worth collecting. So besides a handful of '61 and '66 high numbers for around $2 each, I found a '53 Topps high number (Foiles, I believe) that I needed, that booked at $100, marked at $8. When I went purchase it, the dealer said it should be $18, but in fact he had inadvertantly left out the "1". I said ok, too bad, but then, with no prodding, not only did he offer to give it to me at the price marked, he discounted it another dollar sinceI bought a stack of miscut cards out of his "8 for a dollar" box!! Love those volume discounts!! So I was able to get a very decent g/vg card I needed at 7%. That dealer's name was Mike, but I never got a last name. He had mostly high grade stuff and was continually relating a story of how an old woman had come into his store and presented some early 60s cards that were fresh from packs, and that went on to grade at 8s and 9s. My ears beganto hurt as he harangued every passer-by, and I almost left his booth early, but glad I didn't. Another dealer, the same one that Mike mentions below, George D, was very talkative with everyone while Mike and I were ransacking his bargain boxes, and I was prepared to find that his bluster about pricing everything to sell fast would evaporate when the rubber hit the road, but I was proved wrongwhen he also gave substantial discounts for some reasonable semi-star cards in low, but not awful, grades. So it was good to see another OBCer thereand also to end up with probably 120-150 cards, mostly miscuts (including my first Bionic Woman miscut), 6 vintage SP hi numbers and a few hits for 2nd and 3rd sets, for just $40. I won't go to every White Plains show (there are 5 each year), but once or twice per year seems to still provide enough finds to justify the time, and there's always the odd OBCer to boot! Did anyone else show up - Rob maybe? Best to all, Richard D - still not fully recovered from the National ... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mp1067@Hotmail.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:05:41 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show Went to the Westchester County Center card show today and picked up a ton of cards. Completed my 1965 topps embossed set by getting my very first Mickey Mantle card. Came very close to completing my 1973 and 1974 topps sets and also found most of the gremlings that somehow are missing from my 1980 topps set (still missing #424 yankees checklist). also got to meet fellow obc'er Richard Dingman. Lots of tables at this show, but I only felt as if only two of them had good prices. I really liked the one run by George DiBendetto called Lotsa Good Stuff, which is in the back corner on the right if you are looking from the front entrance. If anyone else is going, enjoy. Mike Dillon ================= To: , , Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:32:49 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Red Man want lists added I picked up a few Red Man cards this weekend, and since all 4 series (1952-1955) are now out of the realm of "type" cards, I have added a want list for these to my web page and have a few dupes available as well (though not alot). http://www.sportscardfun.com/trader/taylor_schock.asp ================= Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:05:54 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report Old topic, I know... but it seems there wasn't much response initially, so I'm bringing it back up. I prefer the logo with the home plate behind it. Either one is great. ================= Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 19:17:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Michael" Subject: Re: Good day at the card show It's okay. I've been referenced as worse haha. Mike Dillon --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, mikesportsfan@... wrote: > I have periodically been called KOOC (King Of Oddball Cards). Rarely, have I been directly called odd by another OBCer. Sorry Mike Dillon for you being referenced as odd. > Mike Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: richard dingman > To: obc-ramblings > Sent: Sun, Aug 19, 2012 7:13 pm > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show > As Mike said, I also attended this show for a few hours on Friday. I wasable to squeeze my week's work in Pittsburgh into 4 days, and eke out somehours in White Plains on Friday on my way back to home in western Mass. The show began slowly. I arrived earlier than I had planned and was at the ticket window 1/2 hour before opening (11am). Normally there is a line of a dozen or two at that time, but nobody else was there. By opening, there were perhaps 25 folks in line, no white hats. A quick tour of the room (itwas held upstairs thankfully) revealed only a couple vintage bargain boxes, and I began to feel like the day would be a loss. But after an hour or so, I found a couple tables that generally had higher priced vintage in higher grades, but significantly discounted the odd low grade card as being barely worth collecting. So besides a handful of '61 and '66 high numbers foraround $2 each, I found a '53 Topps high number (Foiles, I believe) that I needed, that booked at $100, marked at $8. When I went purchase it, the dealer said it should be $18, but in fact he had inadvertantly left out the"1". I said ok, too bad, but then, with no prodding, not only did he offer to give it to me at the price marked, he discounted it another dollar since I bought a stack of miscut cards out of his "8 for a dollar" box!! Lovethose volume discounts!! So I was able to get a very decent g/vg card I needed at 7%. That dealer's name was Mike, but I never got a last name. Hehad mostly high grade stuff and was continually relating a story of how anold woman had come into his store and presented some early 60s cards that were fresh from packs, and that went on to grade at 8s and 9s. My ears began to hurt as he harangued every passer-by, and I almost left his booth early, but glad I didn't. > Another dealer, the same one that Mike mentions below, George D, was verytalkative with everyone while Mike and I were ransacking his bargain boxes, and I was prepared to find that his bluster about pricing everything to sell fast would evaporate when the rubber hit the road, but I was proved wrong when he also gave substantial discounts for some reasonable semi-star cards in low, but not awful, grades. So it was good to see another OBCer there and also to end up with probably 120-150 cards, mostly miscuts (including my first Bionic Woman miscut), 6 vintage SP hi numbers and a few hits for2nd and 3rd sets, for just $40. I won't go to every White Plains show (there are 5 each year), but once or twice per year seems to still provide enough finds to justify the time, and there's always the odd OBCer to boot! > Did anyone else show up - Rob maybe? > Best to all, > Richard D - still not fully recovered from the National ... > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: mp1067@... > Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:05:41 +0000 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Good day at the card show > Went to the Westchester County Center card show today and picked up a tonof cards. Completed my 1965 topps embossed set by getting my very first Mickey Mantle card. Came very close to completing my 1973 and 1974 topps setsand also found most of the gremlings that somehow are missing from my 1980topps set (still missing #424 yankees checklist). also got to meet fellow obc'er Richard Dingman. Lots of tables at this show, but I only felt as if only two of them had good prices. I really liked the one run by George DiBendetto called Lotsa Good Stuff, which is in the back corner on the right ifyou are looking from the front entrance. If anyone else is going, enjoy. > Mike Dillon ================= To: , Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:54:09 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: Thanks and my first graded card from GGS! Larry "guru" Tipton sends 3 cards this way with a '51 Bowman Joe Page, a '61 Topps high number Murtaugh Mgr A-S card, and a GGS Gem Mint '58 Topps Ed Roebuck (from the Guru Sewer Collection Find). Thanks Guru! I have attached a scan of the GGS card to instigate the envy of all. LOL ================= To: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:05:14 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Thanks and my first graded card from GGS! [1 Attachment] Looks to me like there is a slight touch (almost a bit of rounding) on the bottom left corner...............other than that it is superb............I can't see it getting any more than a 9 though.............Guru is maybe getting a little relaxed with his grading standards. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Taylor Schock Sent: August-20-12 12:54 PM To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Thanks and my first graded card from GGS! [1 [Attachment(s) from Taylor Schock included below] Larry "guru" Tipton sends 3 cards this way with a '51 Bowman Joe Page, a '61 Topps high number Murtaugh Mgr A-S card, and a GGS Gem Mint '58 Topps Ed Roebuck (from the Guru Sewer Collection Find). Thanks Guru! I have attached a scan of the GGS card to instigate the envy of all. LOL No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5211 - Release Date: 08/20/12 ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 02:58:37 -0400 (EDT) From: wwesmyster2@aol.com Subject: the Guru Grading Service I'm not sure if anyone's posted about the GGS yet, but I'd like to put in alittle about it. First, I have to give thanks to this group. I went to the National for 1.5 days and got more out of it than I could of dreamed of. It wasn't the fact I was actually at a National, but meeting some of the best people I've evermet. Though I'm only in my 30's, I've been around the world twice, and visited many areas of this country. Of all the people of different creeds, races, religions, genders, ages, etc. through military service, or my current public service as a Sheriff Deputy, I am extremely impressed and humbled bythe brotherhood in OBC. I really do consider everyone in this group a friend. And after meeting over a dozen members in Baltimore, makes me consider those gentlemen brothers of mine. Now, I met Larry Tipton, but already knew it was him when I saw him. It wasonly confirmed by a fellow OBCer when I was on my tip toes as I gazed intothe sea of collectors on the showroom floor of the National. I saw his flip flops, maroon foam bill original OBC hat, and his tooth pick extended from his face. Later at the Irish Pub was Guru sitting across from me. I was lucky to have conversation with him during my 1 full day in Baltimore. He had not yet discovered the treasure he's recently been sharing with us. But, non the less, he gave me a pack of cards, one of which was a real beater. (By the way, I actually cried laughing when I saw the photo of the 52 Topps Wilhelm from the swap) One of the cards he gave me was a 52 Topps, and he gave it a 'Tipton mint 10". I think an active GGS for this group could speak mountains. I surely don't wish to put pressure on Larry, nor do I want to sound like I am speaking for him. I'm just saying that I'd definitely be game for any kind of support for GGS if it's something that were to become regular. Ya, it's really funny, neat and original, but it's also more than that. It kind of defines whatI believe is part of what this group is all about...."The unconditional appreciation of every vintage baseball card out there." Every card is specialand unique. Every card has a different story. Where its been, when it was there, why it was there, who it belonged to, etc. The mystery, and uncanny ability to uplift our days and dreams of yester-year strengthens what was described to me by Mike Rich, "The Power of Cardboard." Of course, for obvious reasons, I am attracted to the mystery, meaning and stories behind the cards. The GGS is what I believe the nucleus of this concept and belief. I hope the service persists, as there was only one thing that made me happier when Iobserved that GGS 8 George Crowe, and that is my wife and kids. Thanks forreading! Wes Shepard ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 04:12:06 -0700 (PDT) To: RRFARRELL@YAHOO.COM From: Bob Farrell Subject: My Terrible Trip.....Bob Farrell I'm in some terrible and horrible situation,I came down here to England for a program and I was robbed at gun point last night, I misplaced my wallet on my way back to my hotel after I went for sight seeing. The wallet contained all the valuables I had. Now, my passport is in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment. I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few people to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a loan of $1=E2=99880, from you. this will enable me sort my hotel bills andget sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you can afford in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as I return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let me know soonest. Thanks so much. Write me so I can let you know how to send it. Bob Farrell ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:57:48 -0400 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: 1967 Topps hi # 582 Jim Owens this link is to a 1967 Topps hi # 582 Jim Owens for $2.50 with free shipping Buy it Now! the guy has 100% feedback. I would buy if I needed it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Topps-582-Jim-Owens-Astros-High-VG-lite-wrinkle-2591-/230806015991?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem35bd1c4ff7#ht_500wt_1282 Mark Holland OBC, Trading Bases & VCT Mark's Vintage Wantlist Vintage Any Condition Traders ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:37:52 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: T205 question please hello, I am in need of some input please on these. I have a guy interested in around 30 cards from the 61 set...commons all. he is offering up one of the t205's on the list....seeing as their is no tigers. I thought I would get input with the group to see if any of these are harder to get than others. I have none of these so any would be cool. thanks for any input. 1911 T205 Gold Border #163 Lewis Richie 1911 T205 Gold Border #200 Doc White 1911 T205 Gold Border #190 Ira Thomas 1911 T205 Gold Border #175 Jas. T. Sheckard 1911 T205 Gold Border #127 George McBride 1911 T205 Gold Border #105 Ed Konetchy 1911 T205 Gold Border #86 Topsy Hartsel 1911 T205 Gold Border #82 Bob Groom 1911 T205 Gold Border #68 Russ Ford Black Cap 1911 T205 Gold Border #64 G.C. Ferguson 1911 T205 Gold Border #48 W.R. Dickson 1911 T205 Gold Border #14 Fred Beck 1911 T205 Gold Border #5 Jimmy Austin John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:28:49 -0500 To: OBC ramblings From: Yaz Subject: Hoax I'll sure feel terrible if I'm wrong but I do believe the following message on the Rambling and Thanks servers is a variation of the 'grandkid's in trouble have grandma wire money quick' scam. I don't remember Bob typing in quite the Nigerian accent as he does here, telling about his trip 'down' to England. Greg (yaz) /I'm in some terrible and horrible situation,I came down here to England for a program and I was robbed at gun point last night, I misplaced my wallet on my way back to my hotel after I went for sight seeing. The wallet contained all the valuables I had. Now, my passport is in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment. I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few people to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a loan of $1'880, from you. this will enable me sort my hotel bills and get my sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you can afford in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as I return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let me know soonest. Thanks so much./ / Write me so I can let you know how to send it./ / Thanks,/ / Bob Farrell/ ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 19:33:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Yaz , OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hoax one of the guys in trading bases had his email hacked last week and a message similar to this was sent out. Kevin quickly came on and posted it as a hoax and hacked. so I treated it as such. maybe someone has contacted Bob and let him know. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ From: Yaz To: OBC ramblings Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:28 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hoax I'll sure feel terrible if I'm wrong but I do believe the following messageon the Rambling and Thanks servers is a variation of the 'grandkid's in trouble have grandma wire money quick' scam. I don't remember Bob typing in quite the Nigerian accent as he does here, telling about his trip 'down' to England. Greg (yaz) I'm in some terrible and horrible situation,I came down here to England fora program and I was robbed at gun point last night, I misplaced my wallet on my way back to my hotel after I went for sight seeing. The wallet contained all the valuables I had. Now, my passport is in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment. I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a loan $1=E2=99880, from you. this will enable me sort my hotel bills and get sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you can in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as I return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let know soonest. Thanks so much. Write me so I can let you know how to send it. Bob Farrell ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 22:33:52 -0400 (EDT) To: yazobc@insightbb.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hoax Content-Language: en it a hoax i got the same email from a friend in colorado who had a severe anyuersm and was on life support at the time i received (true story) and then to robbed in england (hoax) at the same time nobody can have that much bad luck In a message dated 8/21/2012 9:28:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, yazobc@insightbb.com writes: I'll sure feel terrible if I'm wrong but I do believe the following message on the Rambling and Thanks servers is a variation of the 'grandkid's in trouble have grandma wire money quick' scam. I don't remember Bob typing in quite the Nigerian accent as he does here, telling about his trip 'down' to Greg (yaz) I'm in some terrible and horrible situation,I came down here to England for a program and I was robbed at gun point last night, I misplaced my wallet on my way back to my hotel after I went for sight seeing. The wallet contained all the valuables I had. Now, my passport is in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment. I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few people to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a loan of $1=E2=99880, from you. this will enable me sort my hotel bills and get my sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you can afford in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as I return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let me know soonest. Thanks so much. Write me so I can let you know how to send it. Bob Farrell ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:26:52 -0400 To: LUURSCJG@aol.com From: John Leroux Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hoax ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:28:55 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC ramblings From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: FOOT to invade TOLEDO Hello Fellow OBC'ers, I've been wanting to get back to 5th/3rd Field in Toledo for a Mud-hens game and time is running out. When the FOOT's met the Yudt's recently at Comerica they were passing out Mud-hens skeds and they play this weekend and next. Well I got plans on Labor Day weekend (as do many) so that leaves THIS SATURDAY!!! I got phone confirmation from FOOT members Mike Rich and John McLaughlin and have spoken to friend and fellow VCT member Ed Hutchinson who will get back with me by tomorrow to let me know if he will be coming in from the Cleveland area. So it's an all call out to the other OBC'ers to see who might be available for a road trip to see the Mud-hens. The game is at 7 pm and Mike and I will probably plan to be in Toledo by 5 pm or thereabouts so we can meet with the McLaughlin's for dinner and chat before the game. It would be great to entice some of our friends from Ohio to meet up withus this weekend. You guys know the drill - reply back if you can make it and we will work out the finer points. What say you - anyone else up for a final trip of the summer??? BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------------------- MARK ================= To: "John Leroux" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:33:43 +0000 From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hoax ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 05:42:12 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "kenmorganti" Subject: Re: My Terrible Trip.....Bob Farrell Just for grins, I looked at the ramblings messages and noticed that Bob hasn't posted since 2005 - then I get three identical messages from him (two from the servers and one directly to me) in a two minute span? Looks like hesent one to every entry in his address book. I figured it was a scam, since Bob's english be much gooder than this. I replied asking how I could sendthe $1880 anyway ;-) I have yet to get a reply, Ken M - PS: Geno is correct. Gun laws are very strict in England. Even the police don't regularly carry firearms (according to Wikipedia), so getting robbed at gunpoint is a far fetched story. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Farrell wrote: > I'm in some terrible and horrible situation,I came down here to England > for a program and I was robbed at gun point last night, I misplaced my > wallet on my way back to my hotel after I went for sight seeing. The > wallet contained all the valuables I had. Now, my passport is in > custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment. > I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few people > to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a loan of > $1=E2=99880, from you. this will enable me sort my hotel bills and get my > sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you can afford > in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as I > return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let me > know soonest. Thanks so much. > Write me so I can let you know how to send it. > Thanks, > Bob Farrell ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:30:04 -0700 To: John Dahms From: David Fallen Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 question please I'm no T206 expert but I had fun looking up info on this. I went to T206.org and checked each name in the valuation section. The default price given for each player was $35 except for Russ Ford who was $45. The actual value of the card, of course, depends on condition and whether it has a rare back or not. I know value and scarcity are two different things, but the price is an index that might be useful. I think the best way to pick a card is by its eye appeal. Do you have scans of the cards being offered? If not, and if you trust this person you could ask him to send the card with the best eye appeal. Another approach would be to check out images of each card and pick the image that attracts you the most. You can see pictures of all these cards at Old Cardboard (http://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t205/t205gal1.asp). Personally, I prefer the NL cards that don't have the diamond frame around the player's head. Also, I love the name "Rustlers" - there's two reasons why I would pick either Beck or Ferguson. Have fun with this. Watch out or you might get hooked! -Dave Fallen On 8/21/2012 6:37 PM, John Dahms wrote: > hello, I am in need of some input please on these. I have a guy > interested in around 30 cards from the 61 set...commons all. he is > offering up one of the t205's on the list....seeing as their is no tigers. > I thought I would get input with the group to see if any of these are > harder to get than others. I have none of these so any would be cool. > thanks for any input. > JD > 1911 T205 Gold Border #163 Lewis Richie > 1911 T205 Gold Border #200 Doc White > 1911 T205 Gold Border #190 Ira Thomas > 1911 T205 Gold Border #175 Jas. T. Sheckard > 1911 T205 Gold Border #127 George McBride > 1911 T205 Gold Border #105 Ed Konetchy > 1911 T205 Gold Border #86 Topsy Hartsel > 1911 T205 Gold Border #82 Bob Groom > 1911 T205 Gold Border #68 Russ Ford Black Cap > 1911 T205 Gold Border #64 G.C. Ferguson > 1911 T205 Gold Border #48 W.R. Dickson > 1911 T205 Gold Border #14 Fred Beck > 1911 T205 Gold Border #5 Jimmy Austin > *John Dahms* > *3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601* > *Jackson, MI* > *49202* > *I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my > site.* > http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 7:22:47 -0400 To: kenmorganti , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: My Terrible Trip.....Bob Farrell I couldn't send the $1800, but I did send a 1968 Chico Salmon card. ---- kenmorganti wrote: > Just for grins, I looked at the ramblings messages and noticed that Bob hasn't posted since 2005 - then I get three identical messages from him (twofrom the servers and one directly to me) in a two minute span? Looks like he sent one to every entry in his address book. I figured it was a scam, since Bob's english be much gooder than this. I replied asking how I could send the $1880 anyway ;-) I have yet to get a reply, > Ken M - PS: Geno is correct. Gun laws are very strict in England. Even the police don't regularly carry firearms (according to Wikipedia), so getting robbed at gunpoint is a far fetched story. > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Farrell wrote: > > > > I'm in some terrible and horrible situation,I came down here to England > > for a program and I was robbed at gun point last night, I misplaced my > > wallet on my way back to my hotel after I went for sight seeing. The > > wallet contained all the valuables I had. Now, my passport is in > > custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if i am inconveniencing you, but i have only very few people > > to run to now. i will be indeed very grateful if i can get a loan of=C3=82 > > $1=C3=A2=99880, from=C3=82 you. this will enable me sortmy hotel bills and get my > > sorry self back home. I will really appreciate whatever you=C3=82can > > in assisting me with. I promise to refund it in full as soon as I > > return. let me know if you can be of any assistance. Please, let me > > know soonest. Thanks so much. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Write me so I can let you know how to send it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bob Farrell > > ================= To: Larry Tipton , Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:22:21 -0400 From: Jimmy Parker Subject: A First in SC! Today, I am the proud owner of my first Graded Card! Yep, thanks to Larry "Guru" Tipton, I am now in possession of a GGS NM- MT8 1958 Topps #313 Bob Rush from the Guru Sewer Collection Find. Although, I may have to resubmit, as I'm sure it should have graded higher. I'm guessing had Bob's face actually been on the card it would have been higher. Or is that lower? I'm not sure about the Tipton Grading Scale sometimes... Guru sandwiches this beauty between two other hits to the 1958 set. Thanks a ton Larry! And thanks OBC! Jimmy "Catfish" Parker ...Save the gum for me! ================= Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:00:28 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mkldvdjxn" Subject: My first ramble. Let me start by introducing myself, my name is Mike Jackson, but most of myfriends call me Jackson. I'm a Cardinals fan who lives in Braves country.Imoved here about twelve years ago and hadn't collected cards for several years.While driving around Slants for work I would occasionally stop in a card shop or attend a small show at a hotel, that might have 10 or 15 tables.About a year ago I ramped up my collecting. I found a card shop near me andwould stop by frequent enough to be known as the Cardinal guy. I give the above account to set up the following. I started looking to advance my collecting, especially in older cards. Thisbrought back into my regular card shop where I found a very weak selectionof older cards. Well what to do next...aha, the internet. Everything can be found there. However this presented another problem, before I sheryl out hard earned money for something I like to touch/feel it. While wandering around the world wide web I find this group who just trade/share cards. Holy Cow, how could you go wron?? I meet a few guys through email, join the group, and we're off. I'm receiving faster than I'm sending, and all the suddenI feel like I'm taking advantage of someone. What to do now? Most of the group attend some show called the National (something I've never heard of), and now they are all hundreds of cards richer, and the race is on to see who can send out the most/entertaining cards! What to do now??? Stay tuned for part two. Sorry to end there got now, but its lunch time, and this ================= Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 18:03:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: a Denny for your thoughts Don Roth sends along a large 1984 Topps card, an exhibit of Waitkus, and a graded Lynn Miller sends along 1960 cards including 3 hi numbers and a 1965 Bob Gibson I wondered why a group of rats(sewer variety) were delivering my mail today. I quickly learned why when I saaw the package from Larry Tipton. I got a nm-mt GGS 57 Topps card of Phillie Jack Meyer and 2 55 Bowman including theKuenn error card. Thank you, Richard Labs ================= Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:41:42 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Jake Elwell App Fellas -- Maybe I missed it, but can anybody chime in on Jake Elwell? He's got an application up on the site, so I'd like to get inputs. His references are Christopherson, Betza, and Housley. Take Care, ================= Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:56:45 -0700 (PDT) To: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Jake Elwell App Thanks, Wes...I've gotten a few thumbs up so far! From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" To: Geno Wagner Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Jake Elwell App Jake is cool, I have traded a few times with him. Just today I received a waiver wire item from him. It was actually a dvd movie, billy crystal"s "61"about mantle-maris. Neat item. Wes Shepard Sent from my LG phone Geno Wagner wrote: >Fellas -- >Maybe I missed it, but can anybody chime in on Jake Elwell? He's got anapplication up on the site, so I'd like to get inputs. His references are Christopherson, Betza, and Housley. >Take Care, ================= To: mkldvdjxn@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:08:08 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My first ramble. NEVER HEARD OF THE NATIONAL??? I think the OBCAC may need to add some questions to the application. We pride ourselves on the knowledge within the group, and we allow untested rookies lise this??? He is lucky we do not have initiations and other hazing requirements. Jackson, welcome to the group, and hope you can join us in Chicago next year for the National, and it will change your card outlook forever. Rooms are usually preet cheap in Chicago, as we share rooms. Start saving now. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mkldvdjxn To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 11:00 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My first ramble. Let me start by introducing myself, my name is Mike Jackson, but most of myfriends call me Jackson. I'm a Cardinals fan who lives in Braves country.Imoved here about twelve years ago and hadn't collected cards for several years.While driving around Slants for work I would occasionally stop in a card shop or attend a small show at a hotel, that might have 10 or 15 tables.About a year ago I ramped up my collecting. I found a card shop near me andwould stop by frequent enough to be known as the Cardinal guy. I give the above account to set up the following. I started looking to advance my collecting, especially in older cards. Thisbrought back into my regular card shop where I found a very weak selectionof older cards. Well what to do next...aha, the internet. Everything can be found there. However this presented another problem, before I sheryl out hard earned money for something I like to touch/feel it. While wandering around the world wide web I find this group who just trade/share cards. Holy Cow, how could you go wron?? I meet a few guys through email, join the group, and we're off. I'm receiving faster than I'm sending, and all the suddenI feel like I'm taking advantage of someone. What to do now? Most of the group attend some show called the National (something I've never heard of), and now they are all hundreds of cards richer, and the race is on to see who can send out the most/entertaining cards! What to do now??? Stay tuned for part two. Sorry to end there got now, but its lunch time, and this ================= Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Meeting Ed Watts Was simply terrific to meet Ed for the first time. And as always, was like meeting an old friend you hadn't seen in awhile. We are definitely "Mutt & Jeff", he at 6'5" me at 5'6" Ed treated me to some Mexican food ata restaurant near his home in Carlsbad CA. Ed presented me with a cool "Double Eagle Reagan Commemorative Coin" to add to my collection. We chatted for a couple of hours. Ed's knowledge of baseball is excellent. Especially regarding his Mets. Pretty coincidental as well that I had given him a Monte Irvin card and found out he had met him. I was completed fascinated by his reading, writing and teaching about Roman history.I've always enjoyed world history and he added extensively to my limited knowledge of the Roman era, which was quite extensive in itself. It was very obvious he loves his work. I had hoped we could have made the Padres game that afternoon but with the family in tow for the short vacation, we couldn't make it happen. They've always been a favorite of mine since Ilived in SD for quite a few years in the 70's and he's become a fan as well since moving here. Hopefully when we make another trip next year we can do it. My family has loved the trip here. Spent all day at the beach Wed and all day at Sea World yesterday. Perfect weather to boot made and a visit with Ed made for one fabulous vacation. Thanks Ed! OBC is the Greatest, Lynn ================= Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:41:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mkldvdjxn" Subject: Ramble, New Blood part II Let me start by apologizing for a couple of things in my first ramble. First: the spelling was horrendous due to trying to use my smarter than me phone. Second: I couldn't finish the last line due to being so hungry that I couldn't afford to spit the words out. Now back to our regularly scheduled ramble. After hearing all these great stories of the National, and looking through my skimpy dupes box, I get the idea to try some more card shops in the Atlanta area (there are like no shows here, I've been to two in the last two years, and Uncle Dick was by far the best source). With no card shows in nearfuture, I wander into a shop a couple of towns over from me. I notice he has quite a few vintage cards in the glass cases, so I get up the nerve to ask if he might have some discount vintage cards. Well he didn't throw me out, but I heard the message loud and clear "We don't deal in damaged cards".Not to be detered I look through his '50s and '60s singles box and find a few cards for my collection. I lay out about 10 commons cards from the late'50s, and am a little gun shy about what the price might be, especially after he picks up a Beckett's Annual. Well to my surprise he charges me 20% of book based on the bottom price for these cards. I make a mental note to self to come back and try again. A few weeks later I wander in, while the owner and another gentleman are having a discussion. They stop long enough for the owner to ask if he can help me. I say I'd like to look through the older commons box again, and he obliges. While I'm doing my search they resume their conversation about attending the Nationals, and how every table there seemed to have a sign indicating they had cards especially for some group these two had not heard of. The one gentleman said he had read an articleabout a group that was published for the show that sounded like these guyes he kept seeing crowding around tables, all wearing hats, and t-shirts with the same logo. Well by now I'm grinning from ear to ear, and they get a little curious. I tell them that I believe they must be talking about this great group of folks, who I am now a proud member, who collect old less thanfortunate cards. They seem dumb struck. They had been talking for the lasthour about this subject, and why any one would collect these cards. I gavethem my personal take, which is basically I wouldn't be able to afford these cards in gem ment condition at this time in my life, but I would love tosee an example of them anyway. I also relate that we all loan/donate/give cards to each other free of charge. Well the one gentleman looks to the other and says "That sounds like what we used to do when we were kids!" And I say "BINGO". The owner takes down my name and number and tells me the next time he gets an offer to buy some of our type of cards he will give me a call. So hopefully my collection will grow to the point that when I attend the National next year in Chicago I will have cards for the hand shakes, and especially to throw around at the swap. In conclusion: This is an awesome organization to be a member of. My collecting itch has now moved way past a rash, and possibly into needing medical help. We'll see you all in Chicago next year, and keep checking your mailboxes! ================= To: mkldvdjxn@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ramble, New Blood part II It appears that Jackson is learning our alternate name: Obsessive Bordering on Compulsive -----Original Message----- From: mkldvdjxn To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Fri, Aug 24, 2012 5:41 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ramble, New Blood part II Let me start by apologizing for a couple of things in my first ramble. First: the spelling was horrendous due to trying to use my smarter than me phone. Second: I couldn't finish the last line due to being so hungry that I couldn't afford to spit the words out. Now back to our regularly scheduled ramble. After hearing all these great stories of the National, and looking through my skimpy dupes box, I get the idea to try some more card shops in the Atlanta area (there are like no shows here, I've been to two in the last two years, and Uncle Dick was by far the best source). With no card shows in nearfuture, I wander into a shop a couple of towns over from me. I notice he has quite a few vintage cards in the glass cases, so I get up the nerve to ask if he might have some discount vintage cards. Well he didn't throw me out, but I heard the message loud and clear "We don't deal in damaged cards".Not to be detered I look through his '50s and '60s singles box and find a few cards for my collection. I lay out about 10 commons cards from the late'50s, and am a little gun shy about what the price might be, especially after he picks up a Beckett's Annual. Well to my surprise he charges me 20% of book based on the bottom price for these cards. I make a mental note to self t o come back and try again. A few weeks later I wander in, while the owner and another gentleman are having a discussion. They stop long enough for the owner to ask if he can help me. I say I'd like to look through the older commons box again, and he obliges. While I'm doing my search they resume their conversation about attending the Nationals, and how every table there seemed to have a sign indicating they had cards especially for some group these two had not heard of. The one gentleman said he had read an article about a group that was published for the show that sounded like these guyes he kept seeing crowding around tables, all wearing hats, and t-shirts with the same logo. Well by now I'm grinning from ear to ear, and they get a little curious. I tell them that I believe they must be talking about this great group of folks, who I am now a proud member, who collect old less than fortunate cards. They seem dumb struck. They had been talking for the last hour about this su bject, and why any one would collect these cards. I gave them my personal take, which is basically I wouldn't be able to afford these cards in gem ment condition at this time in my life, but I would love to see an example of them anyway. I also relate that we all loan/donate/give cards to each other free of charge. Well the one gentleman looks to the other and says "That sounds like what we used to do when we were kids!" And I say "BINGO". The owner takes down my name and number and tells me the next time he gets an offer to buy some of our type of cards he will give me a call. So hopefully my collection will grow to the point that when I attend the National next year in Chicago I will have cards for the hand shakes, and especially to throw around at the swap. In conclusion: This is an awesome organization to be a member of. My collecting itch has now moved way past a rash, and possibly into needing medical help. We'll see you all in Chicago next year, and keep checking your mailboxes! ================= To: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:59:45 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: crazy card back '50 bowman... If you have #174 from the '50 Bowman set... Henry Thompson, it is a good read... "(Henry) faced Don Newcomb, pitching for Dodgers. It was the first time in major league history that a Negro batter was up before a Negro pitcher." Wow. The stuff we take for granted today. ================= To: "'Tom Housley'" , Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:26:11 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Special '69 Guru solo card [1 Attachment] Isn't that Steve McQueen's Rookie Card in "The Blob?" Gotta be at least a From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Housley Sent: August-24-12 6:22 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; larrytipton@windstream.net Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Special '69 Guru solo card [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Tom Housley included below] I think this is fitting for Guru: Guru copy.jpg ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:20:09 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Bazooka question Is anyone else collecting the 1969-70 Bazooka BB set? If so, do you have individual side panels or strips of panels, or just whole boxes? I have some of each, and am trying to figure out the best way to store/display them. Set of 12 main cards, with 4 side panels per card. Some of the side panels are on more than 1 card. So the quandry is do I put the side panels by box or in alphabetical order? If alphabetical, do I collect 2 of those panels that would be attached to more than 1 box? Since the side panels are the size of T-206s, I am leaning towards storing the panels by box number with only putting 4 in each row of the 15 count page. Still need to figure out what are the best pages to store the paenls in when I have the 2 card connected side panel. I have 7 connected side panels and 11 individual side panels. In the main cards, I have 4, and they barely fit into a 4 count page, and 6 cards with all 4 side panels attached. Even though I never put the side panels on my lists before (yes, another set to be added), I only have 1 dupe out of all of them. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 13:52:13 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Rumley-Wells Subject: Re: Ramble, New Blood part II That was just a GREAT Ramble! I miss being more active, but this is exactly why I take time to read the Thanks and Ramblings! Welcome, Jackson, and everybody, I'm warning you now...I'm going to try to be in Chicago next summer. We're due to be back for 3 months and both my sisters live there, so I just MIGHT be able to pull that off. Peace and Joy, Beloved Brethren (and Linda) of our great group! I'm always grateful to be a part, even far away. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 22:47:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: OBCAC question but open to whole group Maybe this is for the OBCAC but here goes.... Did a quick web search for OBC and a new website popped up for the Oakland Baseball Club...who liberally use OBC to identify themselves...wondering ifwe own a trademark or copyright on OBC? I thought there was talk of this when we first moved to a website (15+ years ago)...Any ideas? Does it matter? Should it matter? ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:33:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mkldvdjxn@yahoo.com" Subject: Re: OBCAC question but open to whole group ================= Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 04:00:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: FOOT gathering As I just posted, John Dahms, Mark Talbot and I got together tonite for a Tigers game. Aside from a few OBC gifts, a decent pregame burger, the Tigers played awful defense and gave no support to rookie Drew Smyly, but then rallied in the bottom of the 8th to beat the Angels. Our seats were next toa gentleman who was visiting from Indiana, who just celebrated his 87th birthday on Tuesday. We had a great conversation with Bob, and took him of atour of some of the highlights of Comerica Park, before the game started. Around teh 4th inning, a foul ball headed our way. Of course I jumped up,and while I claim I was trying to protect Bob, John Dahms scored me with another error as the ball richocheted off my wrist. Paramedics provided me with a baggie filled with ice to put on it, and you can no longer see the stiches of the ball on my wrist, although, you can see the red outline of where the ball smacked me. We escorted Bob back to his car after the game, which was an adventure in and of itself as he did not quite remember where he parked. We did eventually find his car and then we showed John how to get on the highway home, and Mark dropped me back off. I will see Mark againin a few hours, as I am taking a vendor from work to the game, and had 1 extra ticket for Mark to join us. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:27:13 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mike diamanti Subject: A Day Off Well Gals & Guys: (Spoiler Alert: If you are hungry, DO NOT read this post until after a full meal.....) I finally had a day to enjoy some of my favorite things: friendships, baseball, and great food. Brian Lindholme (aka Family Toad), and soon to graduate from high school son, John (in a year), invited me to be their guest as they swung through the Pacific Northwest for a well deserved (Brian) vacation before school starts for John. Brian had reserved a suite at the Silver Cloud Inn in Seattle, which is directly across the street from the entrance to the outfield access to Sayphcoe Field. We had tickets to a Mariner's day game this past Weds. against the Indians (apology to Cleveland fans). Turned out to be a stellar Seattle day, with occasional clouds, temps in the low 70s, and only 18,000 fans in attendance. (The previous night there had been 40,000 screaming "King's Court" fans to watch the return of our ace, Felix Hernandez, after his perfect game.) I had taken the commuter train from Mukilteo, WA, early that morning so had time to sit in the hotel lobby, read the newspaper, work the crossroad, and chomp at the bit before my pals arrived. Once they showed up, it was time to hit the street vendors outside the ballpark and decide which grilled sausage guy to get something from. Since I was holding out for an Ivar Dog (fried fish, coleslaw, and fries) inside the park, I scored some pistachios and Brian and John consumed their onion slathered choices. Our seats were row 7 (thanks Root Sports, Brian) along the first base line. It was a tense game, with the Mariners turning three double plays in the first four innings. Kyle Seager turned a single into a double in the eighth, John Jaso was walked, and Eric Thames smoked a liner down the right field line (right in front of us), to score the two runners and make it 3 to 1, which was the eventual final score. Sweet!! We then took the hotel shuttle deeper into downtown Seattle -- Brian had previously scouted out some classy, hip Seattle restaurants. Brian felt it was time for a right of passage for his son John -- time to have that first, expensive, lovingly-prepared STEAK. Unfortunately for us, the shuttle kept getting trapped in rush hour, end-of-game traffic, so what could have been a ten minute walk, ended up being a half hour ride in traffic. Our destination was the Seattle Art Museum area which sports a number of excellent restaurants. Brian chose "The Brooklyn" and we settled in to our booth. Here's what I had: Brooklyn Caesar with garlic rosemary croutons and spanish white anchovie. Day Boat Scallops porcini mushroom-dusted with braised painted hills shortribs. served with yukon gold asiago scalloped potatoes and spinach. finished with washington apple, bacon and oregonzola blue cheese butter. I ate it as slowly as possible (for me)....wow. John had some clam chowder and Brian had a fresh oyster sampler with three different kinds of seawater yumminess. Then their steaks arrived. I'll let Brian describe his food....but I will tell you that John thought he had died and gone to heaven after he finished his manly meat. Post dinner we walked back to the hotel, and Brian engaged in some serious texting with Geno Wagner, while we watched Baseball Tonight in the hotel room. Geno and two buddies were visiting McChord AFB for their yearly SIM qualifying rounds, and once their day was over, they all caught the light rail train from their hotel in SeaTac, to the International District, where I tried to find us a restaurant. The place I picked was a tad seedy (uh, it was a LOT seedy) but the usual "felt-like-old-friends-meeting-again" atmosphere developed. Geno's buddies were gracious and understanding about our baseball-sickness, but bowed out and took the train back to their hotel after a long day. Geno, Brian and I chatted on, and eventually Geno caught the train. I passed out pounds of coffee (what dupes box?), Geno gave me some '54 Topps cards and a '56 Topps FB of Leo Elter, and Brian thrilled me with a Sporting News original sheet of Clyde Milan from the Washington American Next morning Brian and I ate a hearty breakfast in the hotel restaurant (how did they get the potatoes EXACTLY the way I like them?!) and we piled into Brian's car for the two hour drive to Coupeville. Brian and John might still be on vacation......reluctant to return. All I know is, I badly needed a day off, which seemed, really, like a long enjoyable weekend. CoffeeDude in Coupeville ================= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:46:56 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: 1972 Kellogg's ATG panels I don't remember when I bought these but I found a set of 4 panels from the 1972 Kellogg's All-Time Greats set. Has anyone seen these before? All 4 panels are cracked, some very badly. I don't know if I should keep these, send them to Mike Rich (if he doesn't already have them), or put them into an auction. Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman Subject: 2016 I URGE EVERYONE OUT THERE, BE YOU DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, OR SOCIALIST TO SEE 2016. THIS MOVIE IS NOT BEING ADVERTIZED FOR SOME REASON BUT IT IS BEING WELL RECEIVED BY THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT. SUPPOSEDLY IT HAS BEEN RELEASE ALL ACROSS THE NATION BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO FIND OUT WHERE AND WHEN IT IS BEING SHOWN. JOHN STORMAN ================= To: "John Storman", OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:38:42 -0700 From: "wite3@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 Inappropriate for ramblings...political messages should not be part of this Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: John Storman To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 19:43:57 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 I URGE EVERYONE OUT THERE, BE YOU DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, OR SOCIALIST TO SEE 2016. THIS MOVIE IS NOT BEING ADVERTIZED FOR SOME REASON BUT IT IS BEING WELL RECEIVED BY THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT. SUPPOSEDLY IT HAS BEEN RELEASE ALL ACROSS THE NATION BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO FIND OUT WHERE AND IT IS BEING SHOWN. JOHN STORMAN OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:50:40 -0700 (PDT) To: "wite3@aol.com" , John Storman , From: John Dahms Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 how is this inappropriate for the rambling site? all he is doing is telling everyone that he likes the movie. I don't see anything political about this except he mentioned democrats, republicans and such. I personally don't plan on seeing this but see nothing wrong with the ramble just my 1.5 cents John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ From: "wite3@aol.com" To: John Storman ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 Inappropriate for ramblings...political messages should not be part of thisgroup. Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: John Storman >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 19:43:57 GMT+00:00 >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 >I URGE EVERYONE OUT THERE, BE YOU DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, OR SOCIALIST TO >SEE 2016. THIS MOVIE IS NOT BEING ADVERTIZED FOR SOME REASON BUT IT IS BEING WELL RECEIVED BY THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT. SUPPOSEDLY IT HAS BEEN RELEASE ALL >ACROSS THE NATION BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO FIND OUT WHERE AND WHEN >IT IS BEING SHOWN. JOHN STORMAN >OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links >*> To visit your group on the web, go to: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/ >*> Your email settings: >Individual Email | Traditional >*> To change settings online go to: >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join >(Yahoo! ID required) >*> To change settings via email: >*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 18:13:24 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 is it a movie about baseball cards? or baseball? just my 1.25 cents :) ----- Original Message ----- From: John Dahms To: wite3@aol.com ; John Storman ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 how is this inappropriate for the rambling site? all he is doing is telling everyone that he likes the movie. I don't see anything political about this except he mentioned democrats, republicans and such. I personally don't plan on seeing this but see nothing wrong with the ramble just my 1.5 cents John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI I collect vintage baseball and football cards. please check out my site. http://jd3681vintage.webs.com/ From: "wite3@aol.com" To: John Storman ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 Inappropriate for ramblings...political messages should not be part of this Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: John Storman To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 19:43:57 GMT+00:00 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2016 I URGE EVERYONE OUT THERE, BE YOU DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, OR SOCIALIST TO SEE 2016. THIS MOVIE IS NOT BEING ADVERTIZED FOR SOME REASON BUT IT IS BEING WELL RECEIVED BY THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT. SUPPOSEDLY IT HAS BEEN RELEASE ACROSS THE NATION BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOME WORK TO FIND OUT WHERE ANDWHEN IT IS BEING SHOWN. JOHN STORMAN OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links *> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/ *> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional *> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join (Yahoo! ID required) *> To change settings via email: *> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: *> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: srittenberg@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 05:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1972 Kellogg's ATG panels The complete Kellogg's sets, when ordered via mail, came in 3 card panels. I do not recall seeing them for the 72 ATG set before, although some of myKellogg's sets are still in the unopened original boxes from Kellogg's. Isay they are a great item for an auction. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rittenberg To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Mon, Aug 27, 2012 11:47 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1972 Kellogg's ATG panels I don't remember when I bought these but I found a set of 4 panels from the 1972 Kellogg's All-Time Greats set. Has anyone seen these before? All 4 panels are cracked, some very badly. I don't know if I should keep these, send them to Mike Rich (if he doesn't already have them), or put them into an auction. Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated. Steve Rittenberg ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:08:36 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Still have T-shirts Have a few OBC t-shirts left...mostly XL's. $6 each plus shipping...preference would be to ship multiples at once to cut down on shipping. Any west coasters want a group? ================= Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:35:45 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Still have T-shirts Hey Mac- I'll take an XL and if any other West Coasters want one I should be able todeliver at some point in the near future, or at least ship it out for less. Thank youJohn Stamper http://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Tue, 8/28/12, Mac Wubben wrote: From: Mac Wubben Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Still have T-shirts To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tuesday, August 28, 2012, 1:08 PM Have a few OBC t-shirts left...mostly XL's. $6 each plus shipping...preference would be to ship multiples at once to cut down on shipping.Any west coasters want a group? ================= To: , Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:05:19 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Day Off Well OBC World, The trip Mike described below (and Geno chimed in about as well) is over. I need to go back to work tomorrow...reluctant is a good choice of words. Mike did a good summary below and he's more eloquent than I anyway, but suffice to say that all the prose below is true...and more! I'll add... My son with his first Filet Mignon, which he claimed "changed his life" waspart of the great dinner we had in downtown Seattle. Geno's later arrival gave us the opportunity to eat twice that night, but how were we to know that the Chinese restaurant was open late, but maybe should have closed early :) Still, when you are with OBC Family, you are in a world of your own. Geno's pilot pals were tired from a long week, but Geno was affable, generous, thirsty and like a long long brother! He toted a large binder jammed with pocket pages all the way from Colorado, and then on the train to meet Mike and I. In case Geno thought I would have trouble filling it, he stuffed a 58T Ted Williams/Ted Kluszewski into his OBC handshake!!!!! Me likee! Sounds like Geno may be in the Seattle area again next year too, and if so...we'll get the rest of the PACNW gang together if at all possible. Dave, Rick, Grant and Al all need to have the chance to meet this OBC star. (Yep that includes Big Al...we have a whole year for us to find him, and for him to find us...it'll be close) I went on from Mike's Chez Diamanti with a couple bags of his great coffee and a ferry schedule for Orcas Island. If you haven't been there, note thatbaseball cards will not be found...and I'd still recommend it. We put the miles on hiking all around the island for 3 days, including the island high point Mt Constitution with some of the most amazing views ever.(a cell phone pic is attached) Whew, my pedometer almost "turned over" while I nearly keeled over. An awesome trip indeed. I had some other baseball card activity through eBAY and N54 that netted mesome nice cards and some bait for your lists. I hope I can get a few cardsout during the long weekend (for which the Ol Toad might stay a bit closerto Thanks to Geno and Mikeeeee for making this vacation really memorable. OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: mike diamanti To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 7:27 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A Day Off Well Gals & Guys: (Spoiler Alert: If you are hungry, DO NOT read this post until after a full I finally had a day to enjoy some of my favorite things: friendships, baseball, and great food. Brian Lindholme (aka Family Toad), and soon to graduate from high school son, John (in a year), invited me to be their guest as they swung through the Pacific Northwest for a well deserved (Brian) vacation before school starts for John. Brian had reserved a suite at the Silver Cloud Inn in Seattle, which is directly across the street from the entrance to the outfield access to Sayphcoe We had tickets to a Mariner's day game this past Weds. against the Indians (apology to Cleveland fans). Turned out to be a stellar Seattle day, with occasional clouds, temps in the low 70s, and only 18,000 fans in attendance. (The previous night there had been 40,000 screaming "King's Court" fans to watch the return of our ace, Felix Hernandez, after his perfect game.)I had taken the commuter train from Mukilteo, WA, early that morning so had time to sit in the hotel lobby, read the newspaper, work the crossroad, and chomp at the bit before my pals arrived. Once they showed up, it was time to hit the street vendors outside the ballpark and decide which grilled sausage guy to get something from. Since Iwas holding out for an Ivar Dog (fried fish, coleslaw, and fries) inside the park, I scored some pistachios and Brian and John consumed their onion slathered choices. Our seats were row 7 (thanks Root Sports, Brian) along the first base line. It was a tense game, with the Mariners turning three double plays in the first four innings. Kyle Seager turned a single into a double in the eighth, John Jaso was walked, and Eric Thames smoked a liner down the right field line (right in front of us), to score the two runners and make it 3 to 1, which was the eventual final score. Sweet!! We then took the hotel shuttle deeper into downtown Seattle -- Brian had previously scouted out some classy, hip Seattle restaurants. Brian felt it was time for a right of passage for his son John -- time to have that first, expensive, lovingly-prepared STEAK. Unfortunately for us, the shuttle kept getting trapped in rush hour, end-of-game traffic, so what could have been a ten minute walk, ended up being a half hour ride in traffic. Our destination was the Seattle Art Museum area which sports a number of excellent restaurants. Brian chose "The Brooklyn" and we settled in to our booth. Here's what I had: Brooklyn Caesar with garlic rosemary croutons and spanish white anchovie. Day Boat Scallops porcini mushroom-dusted with braised painted hills shortribs. served with yukon gold asiago scalloped potatoes and spinach. finished with washington apple, bacon and oregonzola blue cheese butter. I ate it as slowly as possible (for me)....wow. John had some clam chowder and Brian had a fresh oyster sampler with three different kinds of seawater yumminess. Then their steaks arrived. I'll let Brian describe his food....but I will tell you that John thought he had died and gone to heaven after he finished his manly meat. Post dinner we walked back to the hotel, and Brian engaged in some serious texting with Geno Wagner, while we watched Baseball Tonight in the hotel room. Geno and two buddies were visiting McChord AFB for their yearly SIM qualifying rounds, and once their day was over, they all caught the light rail train from their hotel in SeaTac, to the International District, where I tried to find us a restaurant. The place I picked was a tad seedy (uh, it was a LOT seedy) but the usual "felt-like-old-friends-meeting-again" atmosphere Geno's buddies were gracious and understanding about our baseball-sickness, but bowed out and took the train back to their hotel after a long day. Geno, Brian and I chatted on, and eventually Geno caught the train. I passed out pounds of coffee (what dupes box?), Geno gave me some '54 Topps cards and a '56 Topps FB of Leo Elter, and Brian thrilled me with a Sporting News original sheet of Clyde Milan from the Washington American League. Next morning Brian and I ate a hearty breakfast in the hotel restaurant (how did they get the potatoes EXACTLY the way I like them?!) and we piled into Brian's car for the two hour drive to Coupeville. Brian and John mightstill be on vacation......reluctant to return. All I know is, I badly needed a day off, which seemed, really, like a long enjoyable weekend. CoffeeDude in Coupeville ================= To: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:26:56 -0400 From: obcjohn@knology.net Subject: Non-Machineable I got home a few minutes ago tonight and found an opened envelope from someone don't know marked Non-Machineable (USPS)on the envelope. The envelope was from a J. Deubel from Elyna, OH. It looked as if it had contained a top loader of some sort, that did not make it through the canceling machine. I did not have anything coming from Ebay and this guy is not fromthe group. Anybody know this person? ================= Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 01:50:22 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Webpage ================= Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:41:10 -0400 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rob Fitts Subject: a move for me After 21 years in Manhattan, my family has moved to the Bronx. Somehow I have less storage in a house than in my old apartment and I've come to the realization that I have too many baseball cards! Most of my cards remain in boxes until the paint on my bookshelves cure. Some of these unopened boxes are my current office desk, hopefully I can get a new desk soon. I've received a couple of OBC envelopes at the new address and will post thanks either today or later this week as the papers on my cardboard desk are a wee bit disorganized. Also please note the new email address to go with my new mailing address ================= Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 20:16:37 -0400 To: obc ramblings From: "Jimmy \"Catfish\" Parker" Subject: Anyone looking for a nice starter set of 1956 Topps? I believe these belong in OBC... View item: 1956 Topps "Mini" Partial Set of 233/340 - All trimmed ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 03:12:39 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "tjv815" Subject: We moved! Hey gang, I just wanted to let everyone know that Traci and I are finally in the new home. The cards haven't even arrived yet, but Traci and I are here and busy cleaning and starting to unpack. I have updated the address list, and I will post below. TJ Valacak 717 Stratford Drive Schaumburg, IL 60193 ================= To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:18:50 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Cousin Billy Southworth As many of you know, I am distantly related to Billy Southworth. Collecting an obscure pre-war player...who later became a HOF manager...presents some challenges. There just aren't that many items around...and when you seethem, they tend to be pricey. I was thrilled to land this one today: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t155985 I had to share it with everyone! Now I have to wait for it to arrive... ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 18:30:04 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Website ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:45:29 -0700 (PDT) To: Mac Wubben , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cousin Billy Southworth That's pretty sweet - nice pick-up, Mac! Take Care, From: Mac Wubben To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cousin Billy Southworth As many of you know, I am distantly related to Billy Southworth. Collecting an obscure pre-war player...who later became a HOF manager...presents some challenges. There just aren't that many items around...and when you see them, they tend to be pricey. I was thrilled to land this one today: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t155985 I had to share it with everyone! Now I have to wait for it to arrive... ================= To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obcmac@hotmail.com, Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:46:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cousin Billy Southworth No kidding...really nice Mac! -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner To: Mac Wubben ; obc-ramblings Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 10:45 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cousin Billy Southworth That's pretty sweet - nice pick-up, Mac! Take Care, From: Mac Wubben To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cousin Billy Southworth As many of you know, I am distantly related to Billy Southworth. Collecting an obscure pre-war player...who later became a HOF manager...presents some challenges. There just aren't that many items around...and when you seethem, they tend to be pricey. I was thrilled to land this one today: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t155985 I had to share it with everyone! Now I have to wait for it to arrive... ================= To: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:41:07 -0400 From: obcjohn@knology.net Subject: Ebay login problems I have been trying to login to my Ebay account since this morning without success. Anyone else having this issue?