================= Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 11:33:54 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Ron Perry Subject: Chicago Show Hi OBC, Was in the fine state of Illinois for a few days this past week and managedthe trifecta of visits with business colleagues, personal friends and OBC buddies. Ran into George Vrechek and Gary Mandell at the Sun Times show. Found 12 exhibit hits to the 39-46, 47-66 and 63 stat back sets. Just need a few stars to complete the 63 stat back set. Also bought a handful of wide pens and fine pens. My volume buys were football including a couple Jack Kemp cards, 62T Hornung, Meredith, Matson and Jurgensen bringing that set to just four from completing. Also picked up quite a few 60-63 Fleer footbal, 64 Topps football, as well as some 53 and 55 Bowman football. Finished with a few Red Man baseball and a few 50 and 51 Bowman baseball. Air and hotel are booked for the National, and looking forward to seeing you guys next month. Ron Perry ================= To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, theophylact2000@yahoo.com, Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 21:25:44 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Moving to SoCal It appears that Ed will not be able to make a get together before he leavesfor San Diego. Still need to here from Joe Denning to see if we can get aFOOT gathering before he leaves FOOT territory. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: mikesportsfan To: theophylact2000 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, Jun 30, 2012 7:56 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Moving to SoCal I do not think many, if any, of the FOOT contingent of OBC has met up with the Bloomington chapter before. They are about 6 - 7 hours apart. I thought I would see if we could meet up before Ed leaves the midwest. Would anyone be up for a visit to the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend, IN @ Notre Dame for a day, one of the next few weekends? Notre Dame is around 3 1/2 - 4 hours for both groups. Admission to the HOF is $14 and they are open both Saturdays and Sundays. You have the deadline, so you will need to let us know if you would be available, and if so, what day. The Foot group still has to hear from joe Denning, so we can meet up with him, before he leaves Michigan for Virginia. Mike Rich (248) 709-2235 From: Edward Watts To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 2:09 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Moving to SoCal Hi Everyone, This is just a bit of a short ramble to share some news. After ten years teaching Roman History at Indiana University, I have accepted a job to move to the University of California, San Diego and become the first Alkiviadis Vassiliadis Endowed Chair in the History department there. It is quite a change but, I think, a good one. We are packing up and planning to head outto Carlsbad CA, the home of Legoland, in the next couple of weeks. My wife, who grew up in Southern California, is thrilled. The kids, who are Hoosiers by birth, are a little less thrilled. We have tried to sell my son onthe idea of baseball and track all year round (he has not yet bought, though the idea of regular Padres games and Tony Gwynn's baseball camp this summer is helping). My daughter loves the idea of never needing her winter coat but is afraid of missing her best friend. As for me, I am excited aboutthe job but I am going to miss all of the OB C Hoosiers (especially fellowBloomingtonian Hitz). I am looking forward to meeting the California crowd sometime, hopefully soon. I will update my address once all things are settled (we are in escrow now but I am really superstitious about real estate and don't believe that anything is really sold or bought until the moneychanges hands). Until then, be well. Ed Watts I do not think many, if any, of the FOOT contingent of OBC has met up with the Bloomington chapter before. They are about 6 - 7 hours apart. I thought I would see if we could meet up before Ed leaves the midwest. Would anyone be up for a visit to the College Football Hall of Fame in South Bend, IN @ Notre Dame for a day, one of the next few weekends? Notre Dame is around 3 1/2 - 4 hours for both groups. Admission to the HOF is $14 and they are open both Saturdays and Sundays. You have the deadline, so you will need to let us know if you would be available, and if so, what day. The Foot group still has to hear from joe Denning, so we can meet up with him, before he leaves Michigan for Virginia. Mike Rich (248) 709-2235 From: Edward Watts To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jun 27, 2012 2:09 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Moving to SoCal Hi Everyone, This is just a bit of a short ramble to share some news. After ten years teaching Roman History at Indiana University, I have accepted a job to move to the University of California, San Diego and become the first Alkiviadis Vassiliadis Endowed Chair in the History department there. It is quite a change but, I think, a good one. We are packing up and planning to head outto Carlsbad CA, the home of Legoland, in the next couple of weeks. My wife, who grew up in Southern California, is thrilled. The kids, who are Hoosiers by birth, are a little less thrilled. We have tried to sell my son onthe idea of baseball and track all year round (he has not yet bought, though the idea of regular Padres games and Tony Gwynn's baseball camp this summer is helping). My daughter loves the idea of never needing her winter coat but is afraid of missing her best friend. As for me, I am excited aboutthe job but I am going to miss all of the OB C Hoosiers (especially fellowBloomingtonian Hitz). I am looking forward to meeting the California crowd sometime, hopefully soon. I will update my address once all things are settled (we are in escrow now but I am really superstitious about real estate and don't believe that anything is really sold or bought until the moneychanges hands). Until then, be well. Ed Watts ================= Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 02:19:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "tjv815" Subject: Sun Times show report I was able to hit the Sun-Times show here in Chicago today. I was a littleoff my game, as I did not have an updated hard copy of my wantlist with me. Usually, I will print off an updated copy during the work week. Well, Inever even thought about it last week. To top it off, our printer at homeis busted. So, I spent last night physically updating a hard copy that was at least 9 months old. I also decided to go through my 51-56 Bowman and Topps binders and wrote down card numbers that had paper loss, writing, or heavy creasing. I figured I might be able to do some upgrading in case I couldn't find that elusive 67 Seaver rookie. What I didn't figure on finding was a gremlin. Make that two gremlins. A missing 53 Topps Bob Boyd, and a missing 56 Topps Freddie Marsh. UGH! I'm not sure about Marsh, but I know I owned the Bob Boyd card. I'm guessing that I shipped that off to someone thinking it was a dupe. On to the show. I got there a bit early, as I mistook the VIP start time as the regular start time. Once inside, I found Uncle Dick's table right away. I was able to find a few non-sport hits, some Chicago Bear hits, A TedWilliams Fleer card, a few Parkhurst and Topps Blackhawks hockey cards, and a number of upgrades to those 50's sets, and=85=85=85..Freddie Marsh! So, with the 56 set now finally completed, I moved along. As I was wandering down an aisle, Kurt Tourdot flagged me down. I found some great hits athis table including a 1970 OPC Clemente, two of the last four needed for my 35 Goudey set, some 56 Topps football, a 69 Sayers and Butkus for the Bears team sets, a t205 White Sox hit, and a 53 Bob Boyd!!! As I was searching through one of Kurt's monstrous boxes, we were discussing the missing Boyd. Kurt mentioned that he didn't think he had one. About 10 minutes into that monster crate, I saw a 53 Topps #257 Bob Boyd. Wow! Complete! After Kurt's table, I stopped by to say hi to JD Heckathorn and Wayne Johnson. I picked up another t205 White Sox and a 207 White Sox from JD. My last purchase was from a guy who had a big sign advertising 10c vintage. I pulled a few for my Bears team sets, some for the 78 topps quest, and some sharp looking 72 topps. I was also excited seeing this guys had a binder full of OPC. Probably the first time I have seen a dealer with a binder of OPC. Unfortunately, they were priced super high, with 71 low number commonsin tipton shape priced at 2 bucks being about the cheapest card in the binder. Oh well. Finally, I picked up a box of uv stuff that Rich Niessen got me started on.The last time I bought a box of uv was in 2009 when my twins were born. Overall, I got some good hits to quite a few of my vintage sets. I had hoped to get the final three for my 67 set, but didn't get any. I picked up four Parkhurst, two from 54-55, and two from 55-56The highlight though was when I returned home and my 5 year old son, Anton, asked how the show was. Then he asked if I found any cards for him. Naturally I said yes. Then Anton asked in an excited tone "Are they Toy Story cards?" Well, I didn't have any of those, but it sure was cool to see him excited about the cardboard. ================= To: Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 21:01:24 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: obc thanks digest question... Is it just me? - in the new yahoo format for the thanks digest, following the first post, which is fine, I get one word per line on the rest of the digest. The first day or two of the new format was fine and I know I didn't change any settings (on purpose). Anyone else have this problem? Matt Yudt ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 22:38:42 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Mark Z Subject: Attn: Dusty Baker to Dusty Baker: IF you ever win a World Series, you can pick who you want for the all star game...until then...stop whining! (sorry reds fans, just had to get that out) ================= Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 11:57:53 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "joedenning71" Subject: FOOT Linkup and National Plans Mike, Mark, et al FOOT, I'm still around but working through a lot as our Army move is rapidly upcoming. We are in VA right now looking at houses before we get back to MI this week, then out again for a few days of leave and family visiting. Stillplanning on a FOOT gathering, but probably will only be able to work with about a week's notice to all. LaShelle and I would like to come to the National, but we don't know what day yet, and it would have to be a day trip for us. More to follow as I get info, thanks for asking about me and keeping me in the ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:25:03 -0700 (PDT) To: dugout traders , From: John Dahms Subject: 56 topps waiver wire offerings these cards are not pristine so if you are condition sensitive. these are in VG or so or worse. #'s 19 23 34 51 54 75(W) 80 86(W) 92 all cards not labeled are grayback. let me know and have a great 4th John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 07:13:26 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: question for the group hello all, I was at a local card show sunday and found OBC friendly dealer Danny (I don't remember his last name) and his 90% off box. with help from fellow FOOT member I combed thru the boxes and found 9 cards in decent shape for my 59 topps set, came home and once on my wantlist I realized I was under 50 cards to completion. question is this....are the commons and semi's for this set easier to get ahold of than most of the mid and early 60's? or is it that a lot of the OBC'ers have more dupes in this year to offer up? just food for my thoughts. happy 4th all John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 11:22:55 -0400 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: OBC in the Media - Rob Fitts I'm driving down the road today, listening to my favorite local oldies station (WMJI of Cleveland) - and they list their guests for Thursday - "Robert Fitts will be on to talk about Banzai Baseball." Hopefully I will be somewhere that I can listen - but if not, they usually post the guest interviews on-line. After Thursday, go to the WMJI site, look in the "Lanigan and Malone" section, hopefully Rob's interview will be there. Bill Malson ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 18:33:43 -0400 (EDT) To: bdangelo@aol.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] roak dilemna i'm pretty sure this is real despite its size how about you :-) Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 7/3/2012 5:19:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bdangelo@aol.com writes: Hey Gary, Send a photo of the 52 Mantle. I'd be curious to see what it looks like. -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx To: OBC-Thanks ; uvlist Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2012 5:51 pm Subject: [OBC-Thanks] roak dilemna RICH NIESSAN creates the havoc today by completing my 52-12 topps run. that's right, rich sends the 52 mantle! i am sure that it is the size of uv card only because it was left out in the rain and shrunk. that must be why the stock is thinner than the other 52s i have as well, and why i posted thanks on the UV server as well. anyway, it has some writing on it, so i am going to hold out for a nicer one. but thanks much rich. unless i find out this isnt the real thing, you have hero status! happy 4th everyone! a great day made better as i just got an acceptable offer on my house that wouldn't sell last year at the same price! Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 05:39:00 -0700 (PDT) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Independence Day!!! Happy Birthday America! G-d Bless the men & women of the Armed Services! To all of OBC on this day we celebrate ourfreedom... be grateful, happy & EEK"we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 12:57:21 -0400 To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: OBC hats OBC shirts Years ago I worked with Lynn Miller (who was overseas) and we made the OBC hats and shirts available. It's been so long that I can't even remember thedetails, but I do remember getting some OBC stickers which I have given out over the years. My OBC hat was ruined in a house fire, and my OBC shirt Isent to John Ball who passed away. Anyway I still have 44 of the stickers left and I'll bring them to Baltimore. ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 23:48:22 GMT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Peter" Subject: Attention all Imbibers! A bit of a ramble - motivated by a classic American Cocktail... I was on my way home yesterday - and wanted to pick up something for Denice. It was Independence Day the next day - and I thought some flowers would cheer up the house. Add to that the fact that Denice had just finished narrating another Audio Book (this is what she works at before, after and on her lunch break from work - she narrates books on tape in our 'closet' studio - or in a regular studio when she gets hired to do so...). Well - the Audio Book she had just finished (in keeping with the latest trends) was a Vampire Romance (Vampire man / Human woman - any of you guys ever feel like a Vampire??). I looked around the local market (Ralphs) to find something else that might fit a little celebration and thought - Blood Mary's - what could be more Perfect! True to my six years tending bar - I chose a Vodka that was not top of the line (since it was being mixed with a lot of stuff) but something that wasn't Vodka from the dregs as well. After finding that (on sale) - I looked for a mix - fully expecting to add a lot of extras at home - Tabasco, CelerySalt, Lemon, Lime, sweet Lime juice, sour mix - and on and on... I have made enough Bloody Mary's to know that no mix was good enough out of the bottle. I looked at one item that looked nice and thick and the ingredients looked good - on sale as well - and then I looked up and saw - "Lefty O'Doul's Bloody Mary Mix'. My first thought was - here is someone else, capitalizing on a long dead ballplayers name. This has got to be a rip off of some kind. In spite of myinitial reaction - I picked the bottle up. Original Recipe from Lefty O'Doul's restaurant in San Francisco... "Hummm" I thought. And then I saw it... Printed on the label was Lefty's 1961 Fleer card. A sign? I thought so - and so I read on. Devouring the words on the label like 'horseradish' - '...1958 recipe released for the first time' - 'no high fructose corn syrup' -- and it was a dollar off. Needless to say - I put the bottle in my basket and headed for home. I came home to rave reviews for the flowers and was told "I hate tomato juice in drinks. I don't like Bloody Mary's - Make mine vodka and Cranberry or a Cosmo..." - well, I wasn't daunted - you see, I LIKE Bloody Mary's (maybe I really got this for me - which is fine. I celebrate my find). An so I made Denice her celebration drink and then made mine. I only added a couple of elements - I salted the glass, added some lemon juice, shook the vodka, mix and lemon juice with the ice and poured into a glass with celery stalk already inserted - adding a dash of ground pepper at the end. I took asmall sip and said to myself 'Hummm' - Denice wanted a sip - "I think thisway too spicy for you.." - but she tried some and said - it tastes like cocktail sauce and I can't taste the vodka"... Well - she was right about both observations - I added some more vodka and had at it. It was amazing. Without a doubt the best Bloody Mary I have ever had! And I have had a few. So - I am recommending this mix to all of you - I was fully expecting to add more stuff after I tasted - but I haven't added a thing - only some lime to the one I am drinking as I write. One side note - once I had tasted the mix and Bloody Mary it produced - I went into my office and got out my 1960 and 1961 Fleer Lefty O'Doul cards - I took them out of the book - inserted them in top loaders and used a refrigerator magnet to attach them to the hood over my stove top (where I mix the Mary's) So I could think of Lefty - who developed this recipe - with eachmix and sip... great player (Dodger in 1932 won the batting title with .368 average), great manager, great restaurateur and - amazing bartender! My hat is off to Lefty and his ability to mix a Mary! My hat is also off to all of you out there who have served our country in uniform and those who are still serving now. I am and will always be proud to be an American and grateful to for the sacrifice that has allowed me to bear that title. Cheers - and Happy 4th! Peter ================= To: Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:27:46 -0400 From: "Ed Schott" From: "Ed Schott" To: Subject: a few patriotic goodies Happy 4th Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 21:50:52 -0400 http://www.youtube.com/watch?vv1rkzUIL8oc&featurerelated http://www.youtube.com/watch?vQwW_sN_KDDk&featurerelated ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 23:35:53 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention all Imbibers! I likes me a good Bloody Mary!! Could you ship a bottle of Lefty's mix overto me in time for our BBQ on Saturday?? ps My Lefty O'Doul's story - While in San Francisco in about '97 or '98, Maureen and I ate at Lefty's. Maureen ended up with food poisoning that struck her down for nearly 3 days. pps It wasn't from the Bloody Marys. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: Peter To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2012 12:48 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention all Imbibers! A bit of a ramble - motivated by a classic American Cocktail... I was on my way home yesterday - and wanted to pick up something for Denice. It was Independence Day the next day - and I thought some flowers would cheer up the house. Add to that the fact that Denice had just finished narrating another Audio Book (this is what she works at before, after and on herlunch break from work - she narrates books on tape in our 'closet' studio - or in a regular studio when she gets hired to do so...). Well - the Audio Book she had just finished (in keeping with the latest trends) was a Vampire Romance (Vampire man / Human woman - any of you guys ever feel like a Vampire??). I looked around the local market (Ralphs) to findsomething else that might fit a little celebration and thought - Blood Mary's - what could be more Perfect! True to my six years tending bar - I chose a Vodka that was not top of the line (since it was being mixed with a lot of stuff) but something that wasn't Vodka from the dregs as well. After finding that (on sale) - I looked for a mix - fully expecting to add a lot of extras at home - Tabasco, Celery Salt, Lemon, Lime, sweet Lime juice, sour mix - and on and on... I have made enough Bloody Mary's to know that no mix was good enough out of the bottle. I looked at one item that looked nice and thick and the ingredients looked good - on sale as well - and then I looked up and saw - "Lefty O'Doul's Bloody Mary Mix'. My first thought was - here is someone else, capitalizing on a long dead ballplayers name. This has got to be a rip off of some kind. In spite of my initial reaction - I picked the bottle up. Original Recipe from Lefty O'Doul's restaurant in San Francisco... "Hummm" I thought. And then I saw it... Printed on the label was Lefty's 1961 Fleer card. A sign? I thought so - and so I read on. Devouring the words on the label like 'horseradish' - '...1958 recipe released for the first time' - 'no high fructose corn syrup' -- and it was a dollar off. Needless to say - I put the bottle in my basket and headed for home. I came home to rave reviews for the flowers and was told "I hate tomato juice in drinks. I don't like Bloody Mary's - Make mine vodka and Cranberry ora Cosmo..." - well, I wasn't daunted - you see, I LIKE Bloody Mary's (maybe I really got this for me - which is fine. I celebrate my find). An so I made Denice her celebration drink and then made mine. I only added a couple of elements - I salted the glass, added some lemon juice, shook the vodka, mix and lemon juice with the ice and poured into a glass with celery stalk already inserted - adding a dash of ground pepper at the end. I took a small sip and said to myself 'Hummm' - Denice wanted a sip - "I think this way too spicy for you.." - but she tried some and said - it tastes like cocktail sauce and I can't taste the vodka"... Well - she was right about both observations - I added some more vodka and had at it. It was amazing. Without a doubt the best Bloody Mary I have everhad! And I have had a few. So - I am recommending this mix to all of you - I was fully expecting to add more stuff after I tasted - but I haven't added a thing - only some lime to the one I am drinking as I write. One side note - once I had tasted the mix and Bloody Mary it produced - I went into my office and got out my 1960 and 1961 Fleer Lefty O'Doul cards - I took them out of the book - inserted them in top loaders and used a refrigerator magnet to attach them to the hood over my stove top (where I mix the Mary's) So I could think of Lefty - who developed this recipe - with eachmix and sip... great player (Dodger in 1932 won the batting title with .368 average), great manager, great restaurateur and - amazing bartender! My hat is off to Lefty and his ability to mix a Mary! My hat is also off to all of you out there who have served our country in uniform and those who are still serving now. I am and will always be proud to be an American and grateful to for the sacrifice that has allowed me to bear that title. Cheers - and Happy 4th! Peter ================= Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 02:41:50 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Roster v 1.4 and a few extra comments... Here is the latest. WOW this is going to set some records! "Ass mailing"??? I've met Kent, and reckon that would need one ginormous I agree Glenn! BTW we don't need to mail is ass, we need to get his ass to Baltimore! And yes, Glenn is our best imbiber! He proved that when he wouldn't come up the Sears Tower (Yes it will always be the Sears Tower)! Hey Gary...that Mantle-- remember it's a variation, so you still need the one that doesn't have the box around the Yankee logo.. I have an OBC shirt that only gets worn once a year, the day of the swap. I also have the white had and the old reddish one. Damn have I been here THAT long? Bob, the shirts didn't shrink-- We got larger! I'll bring some of my OBC 55 Bowman style cards. Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes Yes Su-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 No Yes Fr-Sa Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Ron Perry No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot F-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Rob Gioia 914-409-2354 ??? No Yes F-Sa Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Brian Betza Sat ================= To: Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 12:55:25 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: OPC needs and lot share Well, it's way too hot to even think about going outside...so might as wellplay with my cards. I'm getting close to finishing my OPC run. I've included my wantlist below...will trade heavily in your favor if you have any of these available. I also am sitting on a large stock of dupes. Recently I landed big lots of 65's, 67's, 68's, 69's and 72's. I'd love to do a lot share on these, so ifanybody wants to split some, let me know. Also will try to hit OPC lists if you send them my way (no payback needed). Let me know... My OPC wants: 1965 OPC 245. Pepitone 250 Mays. 1966 OPC 28 Niekro.. 36 Hunter. 67. 98. 100 Koufax. 120.Killebrew 160 ford. 175. 177. 1967 OPC 55 Drysdale.. 57 Jarvis.. 117 Brandon.. 2. 10 16. 27 Hodges 37 B.Williams 58 Mathews 86 Stargell 100 Gibson 122 Mauch 145 Drysdale 152 WS 155 WS 1969 OPC Deckle Edge Aparicio, Carew, Clemente, Flood, Freehan, Gibson, Helms, Horton, Howard, Mclain, Marichal, Robinson, Staub, Tiant, Yaz 1970 OPC 298. Henderson 442.Mauch 1971 OPC 405 513 525 527-531 533-537 539-540 542 543 545-549 552 557 559-561 563-566568 570 573 574 576 577 579 584 586-588 590 592 594 596-598 603 605-607 609-612615-617 622 624 626-628 630-633 635-637 640-642 644 648-653 659-661 664-665 671 673 674 676 678-679682 685-686 688 697-698 700 706 709 713-715 717 719-720 724 726 733 735 736 738-740 743 745 747 750 1974 OPC 36 73 105 114 146 160 201 206-208 292 334 336 340 350 453 459 484-485 508 553 603 620 643 ================= Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2012 20:54:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: back from vacation We got in last night from PA, The flights were pretty nondescript except for the fact we had to take the long way round because of weather. I was very disappointed at the Philly show in Vzlley Forge - thank goodnessUncle Dick was there.There were not very many dealers there and most did noy have what I wanted. My local card dealer in Quakertown had a bunch of stuff for me. I really decimated some of my want lists. Probably knocked off 24 % of them. I will not be going to the national which bugs me but I will be therre nextyear. For all the new people going I have but one word -Wow Richard Labs ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 14:31:08 -0400 (EDT) From: topgolf@aol.com Subject: A Note from Topgolf Hey Guys, Many of the newer guys (for me that means the last 5 or 6 years) haven't heard from me, I have been in the group since 1997 or so. From 1999 through the early 2000s I hosted the Vegas eVent which has created many memories...the excuse breakfast, the ribfest, half rubber in the street and Geno's longdrive among other things. I became inactive when I pursued bicycle riding and ended up purchasing a bike shop. Unfortunately last June I was hit while riding my bike and sustained a serious injury to my left (pitching) arm. As luck would have it, the person who hit me did not have insurance, and although I have insurance, the cost still are quite high. For this reason I find that I need to sell offmost of my card collection to pay some bills. I plan on keeping my 1961 set as they are the cards I remember most from my childhood. Hopefully when I was active I sent out more cards than I received, but if any of you remember sending me cards that you would like back, please let meknow. Rest well, ================= Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:16:48 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rjsharks" Subject: My trip I got back a couple days ago from a trip that included Washington D.C., Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Portland and Bangor Maine, BB Hall of Fame, and some other places. Here is what I either learned or had reaffirmed. Gas costs less everywhere than where I live. The Philly Baseball card show wasn't that great. Uncle Dick is a very cool guy. The new Yankees Stadium is not as cool as the old one but is pretty good. The Nationals Stadium seemed great to me. I still might like RFK better, but really really liked this place. The changes made to Fenway park were not good. Subways, and Metros are fun. Tim Lincecum is a mess. Valley Forge, Mannasas and Gettysburg are something to do. The Baseball Hall of Fame is still great. Humidity is a bad thing. The Giants will not win a game that my wife attends. Toll and parking fees add up. I can walk forever. The Staten Island Ferry is a good deal. Taking my wife to a Broadway play was a smart move. Maine is very pretty if you care about pretty. Cards waiting for me when we got back. OBC people are swell. So, I went to 2 stadiums that I never went to before. That makes 41 different Ballparks I have been to. We went to Christy Mathewson's hometown and his college and his gravesite as well as someother ball player gravesites. I am not sure why I do that but it works for me. I went to 4 Hall of Fames. (there are tons of them). So maybe I am a hall of fame and ballpark expert now. 41 different ballparks. The best? Candlestick. I know I have lost all credibility. Thanks for reading Randy Welk ================= Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 13:28:53 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, topgolf@aol.com From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Note from Topgolf Mike -- We should have made a card like that Mantle Home Run shot card to show my drive rattling off roofs on it's way to the next tee box! As for the cards, as far as I'm concerned, they're yours to do with as you please. If it means getting healthy, than by all means, sell anythingI ever sent you. You are a true OBC Hall of Famer for hosting those events, so we hope to hear more from you in the future! Get well, my friend...we may need a lefty in the next half rubber match... Take Care,Geno --- On Sun, 7/8/12, topgolf@aol.com wrote: From: topgolf@aol.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A Note from Topgolf To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 1:31 PM Hey Guys, Many of the newer guys (for me that means the last 5 or 6 years) haven't heard from me, I have been in the group since 1997 or so. From 1999 through the early 2000s I hosted the Vegas eVent which has created many memories...the excuse breakfast, the ribfest, half rubber in the street and Geno's longdrive among other things. I became inactive when I pursued bicycle riding and ended up purchasing a bike shop. Unfortunately last June I was hit while riding my bike and sustained a serious injury to my left (pitching) arm. As luck would have it, the person who hit me did not have insurance, and although I have insurance, the cost still are quite high. For this reason I find that I need to sell offmost of my card collection to pay some bills. I plan on keeping my 1961 set as they are the cards I remember most from my childhood. Hopefully when I was active I sent out more cards than I received, but if any of you remember sending me cards that you would like back, please let meknow. Rest well, ================= Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 22:40:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "Ramblings (OBC) " From: Geordie Calvert Subject: appreciations The Goto Express made a stop in Atwater CA as well, continuing the nationwide onslaught of OBC mailboxes. Kent sends a SCP in the form of a '68 Pirates team card. Thanks much, Kent! ================= To: , Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:34:11 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Anybody up for the tuesday (pre-national) nats game? Is anybody thinking of going to the Tuesday night game prior to the National? What about the locals? I'd like to get the seats relatively soon. Who's To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 02:41:50 -0400 Subject: [OBC-National] Roster v 1.4 and a few extra comments... Here is the latest. WOW this is going to set some records! "Ass mailing"??? I've met Kent, and reckon that would need one ginormous puffy. I agree Glenn! BTW we don't need to mail is ass, we need to get his ass to And yes, Glenn is our best imbiber! He proved that when he wouldn't come up the Sears Tower (Yes it will always be the Sears Tower)! Hey Gary...that Mantle-- remember it's a variation, so you still need the one that doesn't have the box around the Yankee logo.. I have an OBC shirt that only gets worn once a year, the day of the swap. I also have the white had and the old reddish one. Damn have I been here THAT Bob, the shirts didn't shrink-- We got larger! I'll bring some of my OBC 55 Bowman style cards. Cell Phone Tues Game Swap Session Days There La Quinta Inn Fairfield Inn & Suites Red Roof Inn(airport) Hyatt Baltimore Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Mt Vernon Hotel Roadway Inn Mid Town Roadway Inn Mid Town Ramada Baltimore West Ramada Baltimore West ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:04:21 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "joedenning71" Subject: Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty on that one? :) ================= To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:25:58 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what works for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joebefore he leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty on that one? :) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 03:50:54 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil, From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joebefore leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty that one? :) ================= To: "EEK" , Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:52:47 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I'd like to get together again one of these days but this weekend doesn't work......in Phoenix moving my daughter out here. Thanks for keeping me in the ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: mikesportsfan@aol.com ; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; talbot1@comcast.net ; mfmroz@prodigy.net ; obcron@yahoo.com ; chuckparis@comcast.net ; jd3681@yahoo.com ; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know whatworks for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joe before he leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty on that one? :) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:07:48 -0700 (PDT) To: Chuck Paris , EEK , From: Michael Mroz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I would like to as well, but I have other commitments this weekend. Sorry. Mike Mroz From: Chuck Paris To: EEK ; mikesportsfan@aol.com; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I'd like to get together again one of these days but this weekend doesn't work......in Phoenix moving my daughter out here.Thanks for keepingme in the loop. ----- Original Message ----- >From: EEK >To: mikesportsfan@aol.com ; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; talbot1@comcast.net ; mfmroz@prodigy.net ; obcron@yahoo.com ; chuckparis@comcast.net ; jd3681@yahoo.com ; JEdward@aol.com >Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:50 >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July >I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. >"we keep what we give away!" > From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" >To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com >Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July >I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what works for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joe before he leaves town. >Mike Rich >cell: (248) 709-2235 >-----Original Message----- >From: joedenning71 OBC-Ramblings Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July >Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty that one? :) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:50:03 -0400 To: Michael Mroz , Chuck Paris , From: Jd3681 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:58:45 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mike diamanti Subject: E98 Find Wow, like Wow..... http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8148345/baseball-cards-ohio-attic-fetch-millions Drooling in Coupeville ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:30:10 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Re: E98 Find Saw that this morning. Holy crap on a cracker. Just saw the slabbed ones; it's amazing. And the article I read says the guy had SIXTEEN Cobbs. Just....wow. And to think they were only a couple of hours from my house. Oh, so close! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, mike diamanti wrote: > Wow, like Wow..... > http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8148345/baseball-cards-ohio-attic-fetch-millions > Drooling in Coupeville ================= To: , Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:31:26 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: E98 Find Now my Cobbs go way down in value... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:30:10 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: E98 Find Saw that this morning. Holy crap on a cracker. Just saw the slabbed ones; it's amazing. And the article I read says the guy had SIXTEEN Cobbs. Just....wow. And to think they were only a couple of hours from my house. Oh, so close! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, mike diamanti wrote: > Wow, like Wow..... > http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8148345/baseball-cards-ohio-attic-fetch-millions > Drooling in Coupeville ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:01:20 -0700 (PDT) To: EEK , From: Ron Perry Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could make it on Saturday. Sunday I have another commitment that would be difficult to get out of. From: EEK To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what works for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joe before he leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty on that one? :) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:32:23 -0400 To: mike diamanti , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] E98 Find ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:21:08 -0400 (EDT) To: topgolf@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Note from Topgolf Content-Language: en Hey Mike, Sorry to hear about all that. Hope you come off the DL soon. I'm sure anyone you traded with was more than compensated with the ribs and sauce wehad at David's a number of years ago! Maybe one of these years we can drag you and Trip to another National (someone bring the BBQ, trust me it's worth In a message dated 7/8/2012 2:31:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, topgolf@aol.com writes: Hey Guys, Many of the newer guys (for me that means the last 5 or 6 years) haven't heard from me, I have been in the group since 1997 or so. From 1999 through the early 2000s I hosted the Vegas eVent which has created many memories...the excuse breakfast, the ribfest, half rubber in the street and long drive among other things. I became inactive when I pursued bicycle riding and ended up purchasing a bike shop. Unfortunately last June I was hit while riding my bike and sustained a serious injury to my left (pitching) arm. As luck would have it, person who hit me did not have insurance, and although I have insurance, the cost still are quite high. For this reason I find that I need to sell off most of my card collection to pay some bills. I plan on keeping my 1961 set as they are the cards I remember most from my childhood. Hopefully when I was active I sent out more cards than I received, but if any of you remember sending me cards that you would like back, please let me know. Rest well, ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:29:48 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Roster v 1.5 Still playing fill in the blanks, so if you have any more info please send it over... Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes Yes Su-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 No Yes Fr-Sa Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Ron Perry No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot F-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Rob Gioia 914-409-2354 ??? No Yes F-Sa Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Sat ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:08:53 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Web Wantlist- Test Ok giving this a go... let me know if you can see it...I'm not doing anything fancy with it for now, just want to see if it's working... _https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home_ (https://sites.google.com/site/chicod1wantlist/home) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Why can't I be so fortunate, wow! I'm sure most of your have seen this by now, incredible find; http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/baseball-cards-found-ohio-attic-could-worth-3-195715952--mlb.html ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:23:24 +0000 (UTC) To: Ron Perry From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hi guys, I may be able to make it on Sunday - Saturday is definitely out as I will be moving my daughter into her apartment a few blocks from Wayne State. I hope we can make this work somehow but it looks like some can on Saturday butnot Sunday and visa-versa. What about a weekday night game next week when the TIGERS are back in town? Perhaps that would work. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Perry" To: "EEK" , mikesportsfan@aol.com, "joseph f denning", OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, talbot1@comcast.net, mfmroz@prodigy.net, chuckparis@comcast.net, jd3681@yahoo.com, JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:01:20 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could make it on Saturday. Sunday I have another commitment that would bedifficult to get out of. From: EEK To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what works for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joe before he leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty on that one? :) ================= To: , , Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:31:57 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: A thought on the National and sports books I don't generally "collect" sports books but I do pick them up through various means (including through generous traders here) and read them (I just finished John Feinstein's "The Punch", that I picked up at a local show for a buck). Hopefully by the weekend I will send out a list of books (here) that I would gladly pass on to others who might be interested in reading them. Since I am driving to the National, I can bring along any books that those attending might be interested and hand them some time during the National(I'll be there Wed-Sun). This will make it easier (and cheaper) than sending them through the mail. I wanted to offer up this idea to those attending and who might be interested in passing on any of their no-longer-wanted reading material as well. Ifyou have any books you'd like to offer up as reading material to others, the National might be a good place to pass those along for those attending. Just a thought... ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) To: "Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US)" From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hello All, Well John D, Chuck, Mike M have already chimed in that they cannot make it this weekend, EEK is good for either day, Ron is good for Saturday but not Sunday, I am good for Sunday but not Saturday and I believe that Mike R. indicated his availability late Saturday or Sunday. So a Saturday meeting could have Joe, EEK, Ron and perhaps Mike R in attendance. Since that will notwork for me I would very much like to get together next week and dinner sounds fine, but a TIGER game against the Angels sounds even better but I getit that time is of the essence here. There is an East-side Mario's at either Rochester or Crooks and M-59 that has some sort of special; Mike R. would know more about that. It's right off the freeway and easy for us all to get to and just south of Rochester so it's very close to Joe. Mike eats out a lot and may know of other locations that are just as good. Hope we can make a date next week work - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US)" To: "talbot1@comcast.net" , "obcron@yahoo.com" Cc: "originaleek1@att.net" , "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "mfmroz@prodigy.net" , "chuckparis@comcast.net" , "jd3681@yahoo.com" , "JEdward@aol.com" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:01:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July With the packing and all that we have to do in a short notice before move, I can't commit to a Tigers game but here's what I propose. How about a 2 pm Saturday meet at the Mt Clemens show for everyone who can make it (we could all link up by the Kirk Gibson newspaper mural that's on the wall just inside the side entrance to the trade center). Secondly, we can all possibly do a dinner one night next week depending on people's schedules- nothing fancy, could be fast food even- just to link upand have a mini swap session. We can do this at a location that's central to everyone since we all live in diff towns. CPT(P) Joe Denning Assistant Product Manager Product Director Non-Standard Vehicles PEO CS & CSS 586-282-2633 (Desk) 586-381-9437 (BB) ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 23:13:22 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Maynard help Anyone have the value of a 64 Maynard football # 121? I see prices all over the map. In my search, I found a pretty cool football site, don't know how accurate the pricing is... _http://www.footballcardgallery.com_ (http://www.footballcardgallery.com) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:24:45 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Variation Ramble pre National Ok I was looking over my variations and checking which ones I want to key on. Got to 1967 Speizio. I have seen this card once (probably from another OBCer). Saw it on ebay and someone actually won it for $1247.00. For some reason I kept thinking about Keith Olbermann. Ok so if this is what it's REALLY going for, I won't be finishing that set. Still looking for that 68 Brinkman yellow. I remember when Mike Rich found it at a National a LONG time ago. That was the last time I saw one of those. But that one is MUCH more doable. Down to 19 1960 Gray backs, have all the creme (or maybe some are white, I can't tell the difference). Need 2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). One of those is Kaline- Spike green'd me last year. 13 more greens also and I can put that master section to bed. Oh yeah, Ken started me on this quest at a National Swap meet years back...GEE THANKS KEN! lol 1978 Topps Angels team- can anyone tell if the stripes are purple or green? I sure the hell can't. Let me get my Hubble out to make sure. I have saved a bunch of them just in case I have both. 10 more 1958 variations and that master set is done...oh btw Clemente, Kaline and Herrera are 3 of them. I am hoping to pick off a Clemente or Kaline at the National. That's the big card I'll be searching for. Herrera? way over priced. 1951 Red Backs (yes 1951 Ken). I need a Zernial Philadelphia. Hope to find that and a nice stack of Blues or Reds at the National. Need a bunch more 1956 team variations. Every year I find one or two. 4 More 59 Variations (5 because I need 2 of 3 Spahns). Oh yeah 1966 Uecker and Johnson variations and I can put that section to And yes,,, I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue! ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 01:16:46 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation Ramble pre National Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "ChicoD1@aol.com" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation Ramble pre National Need2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). ================= To: talbot1@comcast.net, joseph.f.denning.mil@mail.mil Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:27:15 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I should be able to make it Saturday at 2:00 to Gibraltar. As for getting together for dinner: The Eastside Mario's has 1/2 off all appetizers until 7:00 every day, and is located just off M-59 on Crooks. About 2 miles or so from there is Hamlin Pub, located on the Northwest cornerof Rochester Road and Hamlin. They run some pretty decent specials duringTigers games. So if we are going to meet up for a dinner (I generally work until at least 6:30, so 7 is about the earliest for me), the Tigers have 7:00 games every day but Thursday next week. We can pick a nite, to have dinner, watch the game until guys need to leave. If we pick Monday or Tuesday, there is also Chammps on Big Beaver/Metropolitan Parkway/16 Mile just off of I-75, that offers all burgers for $5.99 on Monday or a 1/2 slab of ribs for $7.75 on Tuesdays. I probably have the most flexibility of the group, being a bachelor, so just let me know. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: talbot1 To: Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US) Cc: originaleek1 ; mikesportsfan ; OBC-Ramblings ; mfmroz ; chuckparis ; jd3681 ; JEdward ; obcron Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hello All, Well John D, Chuck, Mike M have already chimed in that they cannot make it this weekend, EEK is good for either day, Ron is good for Saturday butnot Sunday, I am good for Sunday but not Saturday and I believe that Mike R. indicated his availability late Saturday or Sunday. So a Saturday meeting could have Joe, EEK, Ron and perhaps Mike R in attendance. Since that will not work for me I would very much like to get together next week and dinner sounds fine, but a TIGER game against the Angels sounds even better but I get it that time is of the essence here. There is an East-side Mario'sat either Rochester or Crooks and M-59 that has some sort of special; MikeR. would know more about that. It's right off the freeway and easy for usall to get to and just south of Rochester so it's very close to Joe. Mikeeats out a lot and may know of other locations that are just as good. Hope we can make a date next week work - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------- MARK From: "Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US)" To: "talbot1@comcast.net" , "obcron@yahoo.com" Cc: "originaleek1@att.net" , "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "mfmroz@prodigy.net" , "chuckparis@comcast.net" , "jd3681@yahoo.com" , "JEdward@aol.com" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:01:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July With the packing and all that we have to do in a short notice before move, I can't commit to a Tigers game but here's what I propose. How about a 2 pm Saturday meet at the Mt Clemens show for everyone who can make it (we could all link up by the Kirk Gibson newspaper mural that's on the wall just inside the side entrance to the trade center). Secondly, we can all possibly do a dinner one night next week depending on people's schedules- nothing fancy, could be fast food even- just to link upand have a mini swap session. We can do this at a location that's central to everyone since we all live in diff towns. CPT(P) Joe Denning Assistant Product Manager Product Director Non-Standard Vehicles PEO CS & CSS 586-282-2633 (Desk) 586-381-9437 (BB) From: talbot1@comcast.net [mailto:talbot1@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 04:23 AM To: Ron Perry Cc: EEK ; mikesportsfan@aol.com ; Denning, Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY (US); OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; mfmroz@prodigy.net ; chuckparis@comcast.net ; jd3681@yahoo.com ; JEdward@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hi guys, I may be able to make it on Sunday - Saturday is definitely out as I will be moving my daughter into her apartment a few blocks from Wayne State. I hope we can make this work somehow but it looks like some can on Saturday but not Sunday and visa-versa. What about a weekday night game next week when the TIGERS are back in town? Perhaps that would work. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------- MARK From: "Ron Perry" To: "EEK" , mikesportsfan@aol.com, "joseph f denning", OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, talbot1@comcast.net, mfmroz@prodigy.net, chuckparis@comcast.net, jd3681@yahoo.com, JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:01:20 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could make it on Saturday. Sunday I have another commitment that would be difficult to get out of. From: EEK To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what works for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joebefore he leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet up if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty on that one? :) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 05:51:00 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, talbot1@comcast.net, joseph.f.denning.mil@mail.mil From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Wellbummer!!! I found out last night thatwe are celebratingmy refuses to be the"oldest") daughter's birthdaySaturday afternoon with a BBQ / pool party.Her birthday is actually today and the original plan was dinner restaurant of her choice this evening.My wife and theother 2daughters the plan because of some schedule conflicts. As is the norm dad is the lastto know (although the wife says she told me a week ago?)Bottom line isnow I can't make Saturday. Ishould be able to do dinner any day next week, just let me know when & where! "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: talbot1@comcast.net; joseph.f.denning.mil@mail.mil Cc: originaleek1@att.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; mfmroz@prodigy.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com; obcron@yahoo.com Sent: Thu, July 12, 2012 7:27:26 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I should be able to make it Saturday at 2:00 to Gibraltar. As for getting together for dinner: The Eastside Mario's has 1/2 off all appetizers until 7:00 every day, and is located just off M-59 on Crooks. 2 miles or so from there is Hamlin Pub, located on the Northwest corner of Rochester Road and Hamlin. They run some pretty decent specials during games. So if we are going to meet up for a dinner (I generally work until least 6:30, so 7 is about the earliest for me), the Tigers have 7:00 games every day but Thursday next week. We can pick a nite, to have dinner, watchthe until guys need to leave. If we pick Monday or Tuesday, there is alsoChammps on Big Beaver/Metropolitan Parkway/16 Mile just off of I-75, that offers all burgers for $5.99 on Monday or a 1/2 slab of ribs for $7.75 on Tuesdays. probably have the most flexibility of the group, being a bachelor, so just let me know. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: talbot1 To: Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US) Cc: originaleek1 ; mikesportsfan ; OBC-Ramblings ; mfmroz ; chuckparis ; jd3681 ; JEdward ; obcron Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hello All, Well John D, Chuck, Mike M have already chimed in that they cannot make it this weekend, EEK is good for either day, Ron is good for Saturday but not Sunday, I am good for Sunday but not Saturday and I believe that Mike R. indicated his availability late Saturday or Sunday. So a Saturday meeting have Joe, EEK, Ron and perhaps Mike R in attendance. Since that will not for me I would very much like to get together next week and dinner sounds fine, but a TIGER game against the Angels sounds even better but I get it that time of the essence here. There is an East-side Mario's at either Rochester Crooks and M-59 that has some sort of special; Mike R. would know more about that. It's right off the freeway and easy for us all to get to and just of Rochester so it's very close to Joe. Mike eats out a lot and may know other locations that are just as good. Hope we can make a date next week work - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------- MARK From: "Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US)" To: "talbot1@comcast.net" , "obcron@yahoo.com" Cc: "originaleek1@att.net" , "mikesportsfan@aol.com" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" , "mfmroz@prodigy.net" , "chuckparis@comcast.net" , "jd3681@yahoo.com" , "JEdward@aol.com" Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:01:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July With the packing and all that we have to do in a short notice before move, I can't commit to a Tigers game but here's what I propose. How about a 2 pm Saturday meet at the Mt Clemens show for everyone who can make it (we could all link up by the Kirk Gibson newspaper mural that's on the wall just inside the side entrance to the trade center). Secondly, we can all possibly do a dinner one night next week depending on people's schedules- nothing fancy, could be fast food even- just to link upand have a mini swap session. We can do this at a location that's central to everyone since we all live in diff towns. CPT(P) Joe Denning Assistant Product Manager Product Director Non-Standard Vehicles PEO CS & CSS 586-282-2633 (Desk) 586-381-9437 (BB) From: talbot1@comcast.net [mailto:talbot1@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 04:23 AM To: Ron Perry Cc: EEK ; mikesportsfan@aol.com ; Denning, Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY (US); OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; mfmroz@prodigy.net ; chuckparis@comcast.net ; jd3681@yahoo.com ; JEdward@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hi guys, I may be able to make it on Sunday - Saturday is definitely out as I will be moving my daughter into her apartment a few blocks from Wayne State. I hope we can make this work somehow but it looks like some can on Saturday but not Sunday and visa-versa. What about a weekday night game next week when the TIGERS back in town? Perhaps that would work. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------- MARK From: "Ron Perry" To: "EEK" , mikesportsfan@aol.com, "joseph f denning" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, talbot1@comcast.net, mfmroz@prodigy.net, chuckparis@comcast.net, jd3681@yahoo.com, JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:01:20 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could make it on Saturday. Sunday I have another commitment that would difficult to get out of. From: EEK To: mikesportsfan@aol.com; joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I could also make it Saturday or Sunday. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: joseph.f.denning@us.army.mil; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; talbot1@comcast.net; mfmroz@prodigy.net; obcron@yahoo.com; originaleek1@att.net; chuckparis@comcast.net; jd3681@yahoo.com; JEdward@aol.com Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 6:26:09 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I can make it Saturday afternoon or any time on Sunday. Let me know what for everyone else. Let's try and make sure we get a chance to see Joebefore leaves town. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 -----Original Message----- From: joedenning71 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:04 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Any FOOT or other OBC guys going to the show this weekend? Would like to meet if possible, its the only sure chance I know we will have here in Michigan before the Army cuts us loose on Fort Lee. Thanks again!! Oh and yes, I accidently posted this in wantlists first so what's the penalty that one? :) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 07:56:05 -0700 (PDT) To: dugout traders , From: John Dahms Subject: some baseball offered pulled these cards for a trade and never heard back from the guy so thoughtI would offer these up before i put them back in the dupe box. will hold these til the weekend to let all get a chance let me know if you if you can use them. 64 topps--22 51 83 92 96 115 129 66 topps--419 74 topps traded83 211 296 309 77 topps--122 John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:06:57 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation Ramble pre National Need 2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). One of those is Kaline- Spike green'd me last year. 13 more greens also and I can put that master section to bed. Oh yeah, Ken started me on this quest at a National Swap meet years back...GEE THANKS KEN! lol Sal left out the part of the story where he taunted me with the 1968 McCormick white letter version he found in a box of commons. It had been sitting on my wantlist forever and the only ones I had seen up to that point were slabbed at 707 Sportscards or on eBay - both places selling for hundreds. Eventually Brock sent me one from his set. THANKS AGAIN BROCK!! As for Sal, call it Jedi mind trick payback of some sort ;-) Ken M - these are not the droids you are looking for ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:09:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ricktopps@aol.com Subject: 1967 Topps Spiezio variation Holy crap, I just saw the PSA 7 variation of the Spiezio 1967 card which sold for $1247 dollars in June. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksidp4340.l2557&item250840411886&nmatrue&rtnc&sibEkOYdSoFz5RvhInXIoJtuA41T0%253D&o= The site stated that their are only 3 PSA graded variations of this card. I know it sounds crazy, but I think I have two of them that are ungraded. One of them just happened to be in my collection of a few thousand 1967's which I bought probably 15 years ago (along with 3 or 4 of the normal Spiezio's). Once I found it, I started looking on eBay for another one and aftera few years saw one in a lot of nine cards that were all very nice. I bought the lot, but had no clue that the Spiezio was that rare and potentiallyvaluable. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but it was more than 9 commons would normally cost, but almost surely less than $20. I highly doubteither of my cards were tampered with as that wouldn't make any sense to tamper with a really nice card and then sell it as a common. When I get home tonight I am going to dig these cards out (hopefully I can find them, with my box of variations) and make sure that they weren't somehow tampered with. Assuming they are real I might actually have to consider slabbing my first cards ever. I have a stack of cards that I have always set aside for grading in case I ever decide to use PSA. I am normally not a fan of slabbing, but in this case it would validate and authenticate the cards and probably add value. This might be the time. I will send a picture of the Spiezio cards tonight if I can find them just because you brought them to my attention. If memory serves me right these cards could be a PSA 2 or 3 and aPSA 6 or 7. Rick Johnson -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 12:26 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation Ramble pre National Ok I was looking over my variations and checking which ones I want to key on. Got to 1967 Speizio. I have seen this card once (probably from another OBCer). Saw it on ebay and someone actually won it for $1247.00. For some reason I kept thinking about Keith Olbermann. Ok so if this is what it's REALLY going for, I won't be finishing that set. Still looking for that 68 Brinkman yellow. I remember when Mike Rich found it at a National a LONG time ago. That was the last time I saw one of those. But that one is MUCH more doable. Down to 19 1960 Gray backs, have all the creme (or maybe some are white, I can't tell the difference). Need 2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). One of those is Kaline- Spike green'd me last year. 13 more greens also and I can put that master section to bed. Oh yeah, Ken started me on this quest at a National Swap meet years back...GEE THANKS KEN! lol 1978 Topps Angels team- can anyone tell if the stripes are purple or green?I sure the hell can't. Let me get my Hubble out to make sure. I have saveda bunch of them just in case I have both. 10 more 1958 variations and that master set is done...oh btw Clemente, Kaline and Herrera are 3 of them. I am hoping to pick off a Clemente or Kaline at the National. That's the big card I'll be searching for. Herrera? way over 1951 Red Backs (yes 1951 Ken). I need a Zernial Philadelphia. Hope to find that and a nice stack of Blues or Reds at the National. Need a bunch more 1956 team variations. Every year I find one or two. 4 More 59 Variations (5 because I need 2 of 3 Spahns). Oh yeah 1966 Uecker and Johnson variations and I can put that section to bed. And yes,,, I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue! Ok I was looking over my variations and checking which ones I want to key on. Got to 1967 Speizio. I have seen this card once (probably from another OBCer). Saw it on ebay and someone actually won it for $1247.00. For some reason I kept thinking about Keith Olbermann. Ok so if this is what it's REALLY going for, I won't be finishing that set. Still looking for that 68 Brinkman yellow. I remember when Mike Rich found it at a National a LONG time ago. That was the last time I saw one of those. But that one is MUCH more doable. Down to 19 1960 Gray backs, have all the creme (or maybe some are white, I can't tell the difference). Need 2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). One of those is Kaline- Spike green'd me last year. 13 more greens also and I can put that master section to bed. Oh yeah, Ken started me on this quest at a National Swap meet years back...GEE THANKS KEN! lol 1978 Topps Angels team- can anyone tell if the stripes are purple or green?I sure the hell can't. Let me get my Hubble out to make sure. I have saveda bunch of them just in case I have both. 10 more 1958 variations and that master set is done...oh btw Clemente, Kaline and Herrera are 3 of them. I am hoping to pick off a Clemente or Kaline at the National. That's the big card I'll be searching for. Herrera? way over 1951 Red Backs (yes 1951 Ken). I need a Zernial Philadelphia. Hope to find that and a nice stack of Blues or Reds at the National. Need a bunch more 1956 team variations. Every year I find one or two. 4 More 59 Variations (5 because I need 2 of 3 Spahns). Oh yeah 1966 Uecker and Johnson variations and I can put that section to bed. And yes,,, I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue! ================= To: , Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:27:07 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: National or regular t-shirts? http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:59:47 -0400 To: Mac Wubben , obc-national@yahoogroups.com, From: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben wrote: > http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= To: , Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:52:48 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? I'm in, though I'm not sure we should rush it. Do we know what we can agree on? Richard D To: obcmac@hotmail.com; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:59:47 -0400 Subject: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben wrote: > http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= To: "'Bob Donaldson'" , "'Mac Wubben'" , Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:18:50 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? I'm good for at least one! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:00 PM To: Mac Wubben; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben > > http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:41:49 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Geno Wagner Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Tube tops would be nice... Take Care,Geno --- On Thu, 7/12/12, richard dingman wrote: From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 6:52 PM I'm in, though I'm not surewe should rush it. Do we know what we can agree on? Richard D To: obcmac@hotmail.com; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:59:47 -0400 Subject: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben wrote: > http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= To: , Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:53:07 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? If we spend the extra $1 to get them in "Uncle Dick Green", you think we'llget an even better deal at his table? :) To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brightair@msn.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:52:48 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? I'm in, though I'm not sure we should rush it. Do we know what we can agree on? Richard D To: obcmac@hotmail.com; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:59:47 -0400 Subject: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben wrote: > http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 01:12:41 +0000 (UTC) To: Mac Wubben From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Though the idea of a bunch of OBC'ers walking around in tube tops got a chuckle out of me. I for one would like polo shirts, I can get a lot more use out of that but if the consensus is t-shirts I will get another one. Just my 2 cents worth. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Wubben" To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:27:07 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:53:32 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Content-Language: en I am in for one also as it would be nice to be able to change OBC shirts I still have my original but look more a spool of thread over a shirt. If you take my weight in I would like to suggest the gray and blue like the original. If it red i would look like a giant blood clot looking to happen. In a message dated 7/12/2012 8:12:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, talbot1@comcast.net writes: Though the idea of a bunch of OBC'ers walking around in tube tops got a chuckle out of me. I for one would like polo shirts, I can get a lot more use out of that but if the consensus is t-shirts I will get another one. Just my 2 cents worth. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------- MARK From: "Mac Wubben" To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:27:07 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 02:25:02 +0000 (UTC) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I'm good for dinner any evening next week except Thursday (I'm going to theTIGER game that afternoon). Let us know Joe what day is BEST for you? BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: mikesportsfan@aol.com To: talbot1@comcast.net, "joseph f denning mil" Cc: originaleek1@att.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, mfmroz@prodigy.net, chuckparis@comcast.net, jd3681@yahoo.com, JEdward@aol.com, obcron@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 7:27:15 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July I should be able to make it Saturday at 2:00 to Gibraltar. As for getting together for dinner: The Eastside Mario's has 1/2 off all appetizers until 7:00 every day, and is located just off M-59 on Crooks. About 2 miles or so from there is Hamlin Pub, located on the Northwest corner of Rochester Road and Hamlin. They run some pretty decent specials during Tigers games. So if we are going to meet up for a dinner (I generally work until at least 6:30, so 7 is about the earliest for me), the Tigers have 7:00games every day but Thursday next week. We can pick a nite, to have dinner, watch the game until guys need to leave. If we pick Monday or Tuesday, there is also Chammps on Big Beaver/Metropolitan Parkway/16 Mile just off of I-75, that offers all burgers for $5.99 on Monday or a 1/2 slab of ribs for$7.75 on Tuesdays. I probably have the most flexibility of the group, being a bachelor, so just let me know. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: talbot1 To: Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US) Cc: originaleek1 ; mikesportsfan ; OBC-Ramblings ; mfmroz ; chuckparis ; jd3681 ; JEdward ; obcron Sent: Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July Hello All, Well John D, Chuck, Mike M have already chimed in that they cannot make it this weekend, EEK is good for either day, Ron is good for Saturday but not Sunday, I am good for Sunday but not Saturday and I believe that Mike R. indicated his availability late Saturday or Sunday. So a Saturday meeting could have Joe, EEK, Ron and perhaps Mike R in attendance. Since that will notwork for me I would very much like to get together next week and dinner sounds fine, but a TIGER game against the Angels sounds even better but I getit that time is of the essence here. There is an East-side Mario's at either Rochester or Crooks and M-59 that has some sort of special; Mike R. would know more about that. It's right off the freeway and easy for us all to get to and just south of Rochester so it's very close to Joe. Mike eats out a lot and may know of other locations that are just as good. Hope we can make a date next week work - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ---------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph F Jr CPT USARMY Denning (US)" < joseph.f.denning.mil@mail.mil> To: " talbot1@comcast.net " < talbot1@comcast.net >, " obcron@yahoo.com " , " mikesportsfan@aol.com " < mikesportsfan@aol.com >, " OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com " < OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >, " mfmroz@prodigy.net " < mfmroz@prodigy.net >, "chuckparis@comcast.net " < chuckparis@comcast.net >, " jd3681@yahoo.com " < jd3681@yahoo.com >, " JEdward@aol.com " < JEdward@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:01:32 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mt. Clemens show 13,14,15 July With the packing and all that we have to do in a short notice before move, I can't commit to a Tigers game but here's what I propose. How about a 2 pm Saturday meet at the Mt Clemens show for everyone who can make it (we could all link up by the Kirk Gibson newspaper mural that's on the wall just inside the side entrance to the trade center). Secondly, we can all possibly do a dinner one night next week depending on people's schedules- nothing fancy, could be fast food even- just to link upand have a mini swap session. We can do this at a location that's central to everyone since we all live in diff towns. CPT(P) Joe Denning Assistant Product Manager Product Director Non-Standard Vehicles PEO CS & CSS 586-282-2633 (Desk) 586-381-9437 (BB) ================= To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com, Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:33:03 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? I thought the shirts was a fantastic idea, and then I read Geno's comments,right before I was planning on going to sleep. I am going to have nightmares now! Regular shirts, count me in, tube tops, as if OBC does not get enough Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner To: obc-national ; obc-ramblings ; richard dingman Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 8:41 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Tube tops would be nice... Take Care, --- On Thu, 7/12/12, richard dingman wrote: From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 6:52 PM I'm in, though I'm not sure we should rush it. Do we know what we can agree on? Richard D To: obcmac@hotmail.com; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:59:47 -0400 Subject: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben wrote: > http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:53:17 -0400 (EDT) To: obcbobd@gmail.com, obcmac@hotmail.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com, From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Content-Language: en Count me in too! In a message dated 7/12/2012 4:59:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, obcbobd@gmail.com writes: Good idea. Count me in On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben <_obcmac@hotmail.com_ (mailto:obcmac@hotmail.com) > > _http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm_ (http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm) > Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would > about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) > We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. > Mac Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:11:26 -0500 To: mikesportsfan@aol.com From: John Leroux Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 05:01:02 -0700 (PDT) To: John Leroux , mikesportsfan@aol.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? We could justget inked, then we wouldn't haveto keep buying newones. sayin.... count me in for a couple. Are we doing different colors again? Last time I got a white and a gray. "we keep what we give away!" From: John Leroux To: mikesportsfan@aol.com Cc: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; brightair@msn.com Sent: Fri, July 13, 2012 12:13:25 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Count me for a shirt mikesportsfan@aol.com wrote: I thought the shirts was a fantastic idea, and then I read Geno's comments, right before I was planning on going to sleep. I am going to have nightmares now! Regular shirts, count me in, tube tops, as if OBC does not get enough Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner To: obc-national ; obc-ramblings ; richard dingman Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 8:41 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? Tube tops would be nice... Take Care, --- On Thu, 7/12/12, richard dingman wrote: >From: richard dingman >Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? >To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Date: Thursday, July 12, 2012, 6:52 PM >I'm in, though I'm not surewe should rush it. >Do we know what we can agree on? >Richard D To: obcmac@hotmail.com; obc-national@yahoogroups.com; >From: obcbobd@gmail.com >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:59:47 -0400 >Subject: [OBC-National] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National or regular t-shirts? >Good idea. Count me in >On 7/12/12, Mac Wubben wrote: >> http://www.thet-shirtland.com/gildan_tshirt_special.htm >> Anybody interested in getting new t-shirts...looks like the cost would be >> about $6 per...assuming 100 with printing on the front (and back?) >> We'd have to order soon if we wanted them for the national. >> Mac >Sent from my mobile device ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:17:24 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Need 4 cards to complete 3 OPC sets...any last card heroes? Need just 4 cards to complete these three OPC sets...can anybody help me out? 1965 OPC 245. Pepitone 1967 OPC 55 Drysdale 57 Jarvis 1970 OPC 442 Mauch Thanks in advance to any last card heroes! ================= To: , Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 13:41:34 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Need 4 cards to complete 3 OPC sets...any last Big pre-thanks to our Baltimore host Ed Schott for knocking the last 65 offof the list! From: easchott@comcast.net To: obcmac@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need 4 cards to complete 3 OPC sets...any lastcard Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 12:42:34 -0400 got Joe Pep for ya ----- Original Message ----- Mac Wubben To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:17 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need 4 cards to complete 3 OPC sets...any last card heroes? Need just 4 cards to complete these three OPC sets...can anybody help me out? 1965 OPC 245. Pepitone 1967 OPC 55 Drysdale 57 Jarvis 1970 OPC 442 Thanks in advance to any last card heroes! ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:14:11 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: For all of you who secretly watch "The View"... I know ALL of OBC regularly tunes into "The View". Right? You know, Baba Wawa, Whoopi, Elizabeth whats-her-name-from-Survivor, and the other one(s). Well, even though I work for a CBS affiliate - someone at ABC's "The View" saw a video I did for the Dayton Area Chamber of Commerce 2 months ago. Addthat to the fact that Dayton has been named (by who? I dunno) as one of the Great Places To Live. That combination equals this: I found out today that they want to use part of my video on the show that will air one week fromtoday (Friday 7/20). Now, I wrote & produced it; I didn't shoot any of thevideo. And knowing how the TV biz works, I'm sure that of the 4 minute video, maybe 10-20 seconds might air, probably just edits of some of the scenery. I'm sure none of my brilliant writing will be presented - as it will probably be a voice-over from one of the hosts - but still, pretty cool to find out this bit of news today. This is the first thing I've ever worked on that has gone national (no pun intended). If you have 4 minutes & want to see the piece, it's at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v7bljOeETOuA ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:15:35 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: My Wantlist Well, it only took like 37 years, but I have finally posted the want list and fixed the link in the directory. Thanks to Rick who reminded me that was the next step after posting it google.How many days do we have left? And just when you thought it was safe to print the list for the National, Josh (who at one time was one of our youngsters in OBC) pops me over a pair of 62s, 67s and a much needed 71 scratchoff of Mel Stottlemyre. Thanks loads Josh, I don't think I'll mind updating the list one more time! ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 21:54:03 -0700 (PDT) To: dugout traders , From: John Dahms Subject: some 60's star cards available for trade (baseball) picked up these at a local show today. 63 topps--#60 elston howard 123 Frank Howard 66 topps--#290 ron Santo 68 topps--103 don sutton 310 Luis aparicio email me if interested in conditions John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:26:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: I lost the name of the person I was trading with Hi all, I have a small stack of cards on my desk..(it use to have a name tagged to it, but I went on vacation and I came back and I guess the AC kicked on andI can not find the piece of paper that had the traders name on it anymore , so if these cards sound familar please let me know. 4 1957 Topps: 42 MT 74 NRMT 134 VG-VG+ 159 EX+-NRMT 1972 Topps: 593 nrmt 2010 Bowman Chrome Refractor: 211 (Castro-Cubs) (Sorry about the UV card being Please raise your hand if these are yours? and only the person I am tradingwith..smile Happy Trading, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:37:14 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: meeting Joe and Ron and Mike at the local card show yesterday Drove over to the Gibralter trade center for a local card show yesterday, met up with Mike Rich and finally had the pleasure of meeting Ron Perry and Joe wanted to thank Ron for the envelope he handed me knocking down my 68 toppsset with the Gates Brown card. it was great meeting Ron, and specially Joe before he left. I need to ask a favor of all going to the nationals. when you meet upwith Danny Phillips and browse thru his stuff,shake his hand and mention your with OBC, drop my name to him with aheartfelt thanks from me. Itook my kindle fire to the show for the first time with my lists uploaded on it.worked great. until I walked off and forgot it. when I realized it was gone icouldn't locate it. before I left I mentionedthis to danny and he said he would keep an eye outfor me. well, Ithought this was gone. much to mygreat surprise today i get a phone call from Mike Rich letting me know thatanother dealer was going around looking to see if anyone knew who might have misplaced a kindle. MINE!!!! Danny has agreed to send this to me in the mail and allow me to send him the cash. so please, even if you find nothing to purchase at his table,mention this to himwith my thanks. a greatand fair dealer in my opinion.....and an even better person. enough. have a great week all John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:45:52 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: The Roster v 1.6 2 weeks to go! Here is the latest... let me know if you can help me fill in some holes... we are potentially looking at a record turnout! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes Yes Su-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 No Yes Fr-Sa Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Yes F-Su Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Ron Perry No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot F-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Rob Gioia 914-409-2354 ??? No Yes F-Sa Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Sat ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 01:05:07 -0400 (EDT) From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: Olympics cards I have some misc Olympics cards, mainly track & field UD Michael Johnson and Impel Olympic HOF. Yours for the asking, don't be shy and please include your snail mail address. ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 19:48:34 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: going postal =CB=86went to the post office today and was amazed at how much more they were charging for the puffies.I had never had to fill out a customs form to send cards to Great Britain - all of a sudden I had to and the price wasdoubled from last time. I am going to have top find a cheaper alternative to puffies. I know some people use a regular envelope. I guess I will too. mellowing out now. Richard Labs ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:22:28 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Andy Subject: 1951 Topps Red Back color variation I went to the Chantilly Show over the weekend -- overall not a great show, but...in a bargain box I found two examples of #25 Chambers -- one with a light, olive green color in the front panels, and the other with a richer, deeper, darker green. They are noticeably different at 5 feet (my variation criteria). Anyone else find color variations in this set? Sent from my iPad ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:49:20 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: The Roster v 1.7 Still have a few holes that need to be patched... Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes Yes Su-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 No Yes Fr-Sa Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Yes F-Su Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Ron Perry No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot F-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Sat Joe Denning 518-322-1692 None No No Thurs ================= To: , Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:49:22 -0400 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Topps Spiezio variation I don't have the '67 #128 Ed Spiezio "most of SPIE missing", But I do have the error card right next to it in the binder... it is #127 John O'Donoghue - "most of glove and part of cap missing"... I don't think Iwill be sending it to PSA :) Please have a look... I will be accepting offers from the variation collectors. http://home.comcast.net/~seanobc/cards/error031.jpg Good luck Rick! ----- Original Message ----- From: ricktopps@aol.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:09 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Topps Spiezio variation Holy crap, I just saw the PSA 7 variation of the Spiezio 1967 card which sold for $1247 dollars in June. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksidp4340.l2557&item250840411886&nmatrue&rtnc&sibEkOYdSoFz5RvhInXIoJtuA41T0%253D= The site stated that their are only 3 PSA graded variations of this card.I know it sounds crazy, but I think I have two of them that are ungraded.One of them just happened to be in my collection of a few thousand 1967'swhich I bought probably 15 years ago (along with 3 or 4 of the normal Spiezio's). Once I found it, I started looking on eBay for another one and after a few years saw one in a lot of nine cards that were all very nice. I bought the lot, but had no clue that the Spiezio was that rare and potentially valuable. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but it was more than 9 commons would normally cost, but almost surely less than $20. I highly doubt either of my cards were tampered with as that wouldn't make any sense totamper with a really nice card and then sell it as a common. When I get home tonight I am going to dig these cards out (hopefully I can find them, with my box of variations) and make sure that they weren't somehow tampered with. Assuming they are real I might actually have to consider slabbing myfirst cards ever. I have a stack of cards that I have always set aside for grading in case I ever decide to use PSA. I am normally not a fan of slabbing, but in this case it would validate and authenticate the cards and probably add value. This might be the time. I will send a picture of the Spiezio cards tonight if I can find them just because you brought them to my attention. If memory serves me right these cards could be a PSA 2 or 3 anda PSA 6 or 7. Rick Johnson -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 12:26 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation Ramble pre National Ok I was looking over my variations and checking which ones I want to keyon. Got to 1967 Speizio. I have seen this card once (probably from anotherOBCer). Saw it on ebay and someone actually won it for $1247.00. For some reason I kept thinking about Keith Olbermann. Ok so if this is what it's REALLY going for, I won't be finishing that set. Still looking for that 68 Brinkman yellow. I remember when Mike Rich found it at a National a LONG time ago. That was the last time I saw one of those. But that one is MUCH more doable. Down to 19 1960 Gray backs, have all the creme (or maybe some are white, I can't tell the difference). Need 2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). One of those is Kaline- Spike green'd me last year. 13 more greens also and I can put that master section to bed. Oh yeah, Ken started me on this quest at a National Swap meet years back...GEE THANKS KEN! lol 1978 Topps Angels team- can anyone tell if the stripes are purple or green? I sure the hell can't. Let me get my Hubble out to make sure. I have saved a bunch of them just in case I have both. 10 more 1958 variations and that master set is done...oh btw Clemente, Kaline and Herrera are 3 of them. I am hoping to pick off a Clemente or Kaline at the National. That's the big card I'll be searching for. Herrera? way over 1951 Red Backs (yes 1951 Ken). I need a Zernial Philadelphia. Hope to find that and a nice stack of Blues or Reds at the National. Need a bunch more 1956 team variations. Every year I find one or two. 4 More 59 Variations (5 because I need 2 of 3 Spahns). Oh yeah 1966 Uecker and Johnson variations and I can put that section to bed. And yes,,, I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue! ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:51:04 -0400 (EDT) From: typecard@aol.com Subject: red back variation pic try #2 I don't think it showed on my first email, here's second try. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:11:09 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] red back variation pic try #2 [1 Attachment] I noticed it also couple months back with one of my dupes in this set when I was deciding which one to keep. I've since send one out so can't compare again but if I remember right most colors looked darker so I chalked it up to printing difference. like the darker green one even the black looks darker than the other, mine was the same way. From: "typecard@aol.com" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:51 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] red back variation pic try #2 [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from typecard@aol.com included below] I don't think it showed on my first email, here's second try. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:05:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: new sets I added 4 vintage sets and 4 UV sets. Richard Labs ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 01:44:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "B-999" Subject: Re: 1967 Topps Spiezio variation Alas --I just added my '68 Brooks Robinson "No Face Variation" in the photos section of Ramblings--- in the Tipton folder. Heck there are more than 1Mantle Rookie cards out there... this is one of a kind! Brian Betza --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Supreme Commander" wrote: > I don't have the '67 #128 Ed Spiezio "most of SPIE missing", > But I do have the error card right next to it in the binder... it is #127John O'Donoghue - "most of glove and part of cap missing"... I don't thinkI > be sending it to PSA :) Please have a look... I will be accepting offersfrom > the variation collectors. > http://home.comcast.net/~seanobc/cards/error031.jpg > Good luck Rick! > Sean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ricktopps@... > To: ChicoD1@... ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:09 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Topps Spiezio variation > Sal, > Holy crap, I just saw the PSA 7 variation of the Spiezio 1967 card which sold for $1247 dollars in June. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksidp4340.l2557&item250840411886&nmatrue&rtnc&sibEkOYdSoFz5RvhInXIoJtuA41T0%25= > The site stated that their are only 3 PSA graded variations of this card. I know it sounds crazy, but I think I have two of them that are ungraded. One of them just happened to be in my collection of a few thousand 1967's which I bought probably 15 years ago (along with 3 or 4 of the normal Spiezio's). Once I found it, I started looking on eBay for another one and after a few years saw one in a lot of nine cards that were all very nice. Ibought the lot, but had no clue that the Spiezio was that rare and potentially valuable. I don't remember exactly what I paid, but it was more than 9 commons would normally cost, but almost surely less than $20. I highly doubt either of my cards were tampered with as that wouldn't make any sense to tamper with a really nice card and then sell it as a common. When I gethome tonight I am going to dig these cards out (hopefully I can find them,with my box of variations) and make sure that they weren't somehow tampered with. Assuming they are real I might actually have to consider slabbing my first cards ever. I have a stack of cards that I have always set aside for grading in case I ever decide to use PSA. I am normally not a fan of slabbing, but in this case it would validate and authenticate the cards and probably add value. This might be the time. I will send a picture of the Spiezio cards tonight if I can find them just because you brought them to my attention. If memory serves me right these cards could be a PSA 2 or 3 and a PSA 6 or 7. > Rick Johnson > -----Original Message----- > From: ChicoD1 > To: OBC-Ramblings > Sent: Thu, Jul 12, 2012 12:26 am > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Variation Ramble pre National > Ok I was looking over my variations and checking which ones I want to key on. Got to 1967 Speizio. I have seen this card once (probably from another OBCer). Saw it on ebay and someone actually won it for $1247.00. For some reason I kept thinking about Keith Olbermann. Ok so if this is what it's REALLY going for, I won't be finishing that set. > Still looking for that 68 Brinkman yellow. I remember when Mike Rich found it at a National a LONG time ago. That was the last time I saw one of those. But that one is MUCH more doable. > Down to 19 1960 Gray backs, have all the creme (or maybe some are white, I can't tell the difference). > Need 2 more 1962 regs from the greenie run. (everyone should do green tints, right Glenn?). One of those is Kaline- Spike green'd me last year. 13more greens also and I can put that master section to bed. Oh yeah, Ken started me on this quest at a National Swap meet years back...GEE THANKS KEN!lol > 1978 Topps Angels team- can anyone tell if the stripes are purple or green? I sure the hell can't. Let me get my Hubble out to make sure. I have saved a bunch of them just in case I have both. > 10 more 1958 variations and that master set is done...oh btw Clemente, Kaline and Herrera are 3 of them. I am hoping to pick off a Clemente or Kaline at the National. That's the big card I'll be searching for. Herrera? way over priced. > 1951 Red Backs (yes 1951 Ken). I need a Zernial Philadelphia. Hope to find that and a nice stack of Blues or Reds at the National. > Need a bunch more 1956 team variations. Every year I find one or two. > 4 More 59 Variations (5 because I need 2 of 3 Spahns). > Oh yeah 1966 Uecker and Johnson variations and I can put that section to > And yes,,, I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue! > Sal ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:59:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "thenamenotused" Subject: National question I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. If I can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC events. Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:04:25 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Is it worth it? I would say - definitely. Mainly because you will experience the largest card show ever through the lens of OBC organization, which will likely make you want to plan on attending more next year. Not only isthis the best card show of the year (it is amazing in size and scope), butOBC makes it the best way to experience any card show. If I only make one show in a year, it is this one. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: thenamenotused@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:59:01 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National question I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. IfI can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC events. Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:07:09 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Friday Night at the National Are there any OBC activities Friday night at the National? I know Net54 is having a dinner. Is anyone going to that? ================= To: Bob Donaldson , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:11:54 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Friday Night at the National I'm going to the Net54 dinner on friday...free food and drink...and lively baseball card discussion. Who would want to miss that? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcbobd@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:07:09 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Friday Night at the National Hi Are there any OBC activities Friday night at the National? I know Net54 is having a dinner. Is anyone going to that? Thanks Bob ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 18:40:06 +0000 (UTC) To: Bob Donaldson From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Friday Night at the National Hello Bob, I am very interested in organizing a trip to see the Nationals on Friday. They are playing a double header that day so we can see an afternoon game, an evening game or both. I know that this conflicts with the Net54 dinner but since I arrive on Thursday evening the only day to see a game will be on Friday and for me it is one of the most enjoyable part of a trip to the National. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who would be interested in a ballgame on Friday so that I can start planning the outing. Please respond to me directly or through the server so I can start a list of interested parties. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS -------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Donaldson" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:07:09 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Friday Night at the National Are there any OBC activities Friday night at the National? I know Net54 is having a dinner. Is anyone going to that? ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:56:18 -0400 (EDT) To: thenamenotused@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Content-Language: en Going there on Thursday would mean all the good stuff wouldn't be picked over but at the ssame time I would wait till I could meet more of the gang. They will have it in Chicago again one day and then make it a weekend with Sall there to get the girls or you whether you need them or not. Or at least he will make you not know he is for entetainment:-) In a message dated 7/18/2012 7:59:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, thenamenotused@yahoo.com writes: I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. If I can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier _Thenamenotused@yahoo.com_ (mailto:Thenamenotused@yahoo.com) ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:58:24 +0000 (UTC) To: thenamenotused From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National question You have already heard this a few times - you just got to go. The "first" National event I attended was in Cleveland many years ago now and I didn't even get to the show. I was on vacation with my daughter and niece and we showed up for the swap, I met a dozen or more OBC'ers I had never met and I was hooked. You should go just to get to know some of the great guys in thisgroup. You will not be able to see everything at the show in one day BUT you will probably be able to spend your budget in one day, I know I've done that (unless you're Mike Rich who usually spends my entire weekend budget EACH day he attends the National). Trust me when I say you will not regret making the trip for so many reasons - just do it!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS -------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "thenamenotused" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:59:01 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] National question I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. IfI can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC events. Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:09:12 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: I need lodging for the National Hello All, I'm locked in for the National with my flight arriving Thursday evening and I will be leaving on Sunday afternoon on the same flight with Mike Rich. Now I need to figure out where I will be catching some zzzzzzzzzz's - is there anyone who has additional room at their hotel? I'd be willing to pack an air mattress and take some floor space (I've done that before) if someone would be willing to accommodate me. Please let me know as I will have to book a room if no one has space - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------------- MARK ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 00:30:35 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Michael" Subject: 1977 topps question I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on theinternet. Can anyone help? Mike Dillon ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:48:55 -0400 (EDT) To: mp1067@Hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question Content-Language: en the mr. haney card is either from the topps green acres set or the regular baseball set. beckett does not show any chambliss cards from any year or brand with a # 12. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 7/18/2012 7:30:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mp1067@Hotmail.com writes: I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on the internet. Can anyone help? Mike Dillon ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:49:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine OBC group, I was contacted by the gentleman below who is trying to sell his set of 1965 Rawlings Advisory Staff photos...I cannot afford the whole set (wish I could get the Sievers though) and I told him I would put him in contact with some people who might be interested. He sent scans of some of them and theyare very nice. If you are interested, you can contact him at the email below...if you buy the set and decide to break it, keep me in mind for the Sievers. Not sure what they book for or what they go for. Mark Macrae has already passed and feel free to pass this on to dealers who might be interested. Thanks so much. Hopefully someone can work something out with him. ..the entire set is available included are...W.Spahn..B.Robinson..E.Mathews..T.Davis..C.and is the person who gave this set to me)D Meredith..(shown in a linemans stance???)..B.Cannon..B.Layne..D.Shofner..A.Webster.S.Randle..K.Rote..B.Pettit..R.Guerin..F.Ramsey..C.Hagan.. It's a great set...BTW I was offered $750 from Kurt the name brand marketing director for Rawlings...That # was good for all but the Mantle.(a Mantle sold for $396 in 2007) so I would like $850 for all 28.....but this is verycollectable..and all are in great condition..even thought about having them all graded. What do you think?? ================= To: smartalecx@aol.com, mp1067@Hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:51:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question can we see scans of the card fronts and backs? -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx To: mp1067 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question the mr. haney card is either from the topps green acres set or the regular baseball set. beckett does not show any chambliss cards from any year or brand with a # 12. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 7/18/2012 7:30:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mp1067@Hotmail.com I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on the internet. Can anyone help? Mike Dillon ================= To: smartalecx@aol.com, mp1067@Hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:53:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question Never mind...the regular issue #12 is Haney...In 1977 Topps put out a set to give away at Burger King also...I bet you Chambliss is from that set...Yankees -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx To: mp1067 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 18, 2012 5:49 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question the mr. haney card is either from the topps green acres set or the regular baseball set. beckett does not show any chambliss cards from any year or brand with a # 12. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 7/18/2012 7:30:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mp1067@Hotmail.com I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on the internet. Can anyone help? Mike Dillon ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 21:17:17 -0400 To: Michael , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question I think the Chambliss may be a Burger King set On 7/18/12, Michael wrote: > I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. > They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on the > internet. Can anyone help? > Mike Dillon Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:09:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Michael From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question I can confirm that the Chambliss is the Burger King Yankees card. BK put sets out for the Tigers, Phillies, Astros, and Yanks. If Chris needs a home, I would be happy to swap for him. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:30:35 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on the internet. Can anyone help? Mike Dillon ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:36:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Chris" Subject: Another OBC Blog Mention As many of you know, I write a regular blog devoted to Vintage Sports Cards. Well, my latest entry has a mention of some OBC terminology, specificallya "dealer scum" transaction between me and Ed Schott. Here's the entry if you haven't read it yet: http://thevintagesportscards.blogspot.com/2012/07/ballad-of-forty-bucks.html There's lots of great hobby info there, so feel free to bookmark it and check it out from time to time. I add new content at least three times a week. Take care, ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:22:54 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Hall of Nearly Great I stumbled upon an eBook today called "The Hall of Nearly Great". You can download it for $12. I didn't see as much overlap with the OBC HOM as I expected but I think it still would be a fun read.. Also, among the authors is "Old Hoss Radbourn" who's twitter feeds are a http://www.hallofnearlygreat.com/ ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 1:59:41 +0000 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: 1967 Philadelphia Football available Anybody working on the 1967 Philadelphia set? Got a few availables, feel free to claim them. OBC condition. 003 050 062 066 070 074 075 116 136 166 182 Please include your address. Bill Malson ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 23:28:44 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com, OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: OBC Swap Session - Two weeks away! Here's the info for anyone coming to Baltimore for the National - or just for the swap itself. Also, this might help a lot of the rookies (who will be at the show or the swap for the first time) know what they can expect. Date: Sat Aug. 4th, 2012 Time: Show lets out at 6, so starting @ 7 or 7:30 until they kick us out Place: Red Roof Inn - Washington, DC/BWI Airport 827 Elkridge Landing Road, Linthicum Heights, MD 21090 Menu: Pizza and soda. (Special dietary requests must be given a few hours notice.) Not sure if they'll let us bring alcohol in, but I'm guessing not. Total cost: $100 + the cost of food split 20-25 ways... that's $6-7 each I'm guessing, unless we can get a dealer sponsorship or have leftover badge money, then even less. I stole the following from an e-mail I sent out a few years ago, but it's still helpful: Naturally, there is a very precise schedule of events that we've developed over the last 15 years or so holding these swap sessions. Here's what the schedule looks like so far: 1) Show lets out 2) People find their way to the swap. Please remember that the most direct route is not always the most fun. Contact Al Cummings for details. 3) Once everyone arrives, attendance is taken (we've skipped this step every year in the past and will probably continue doing so in the future). 4) Food and beverages are served. 5) Food and beverages are sometimes spilled onto the cards as they're passed around. 6) Other activities ensue, mostly at the spur of the moment, including some or all of the following: A) Freebay auction - someone stands up and announces a card up for bids - first bid wins. Only bids under a penny are allowed. B) Card pelting - one of my favorites. Someone picks a year on an easy to hit wantlist and starts reading numbers. That poor soul is then bombarded from all directions with hits to the list as he reads off the numbers. Special bonus if you can get the card to land perfectly on the bill of their OBC C) OBC card show - no table fees, no prices, no haggling - bring your wantlist around and check out everyone's dupes boxes looking for hits to your list. Most of the time this is better than the Convention. D) Al Cummings finally arrives after stopping for gas in Brazil on the way E) People show off their show finds, new sets they've started and ones they've finished. F) Some structured trades are made, dealer scum transactions, and plans are made to split that large lot of cards someone saw at a show, but can't afford by themselves. G) Card flipping - a blast from the past... and I play for keeps ;-) 7) It gets late and people start heading back to their hotel or making the long drive home. 8) Swap session adjourns and some plans are made to do it all over again next year. Well, there you have it. This schedule isn't quite so rigid... of course it's subject to change without notice. You don't have to worry about bringing a ton of cards with you - just bring what you can. Remember, there's going to be a show with a ton of cards - and you also have to make room for all the ones you're going to be bringing back with you when it's all over. Bring your wantlist, your appetite and your ability to have a good time and you'll be just fine. TAYL, Ken M ================= To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com, Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 07:23:43 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] OBC Swap Session - Two weeks away! I'll add just a few minor details: We usually round off the "cost" to either $5 or $10. If there is extra money, we use it to attack someone's wantlist on Sunday, usually an OBCer who was unable to attend the National, but we decide could use some help. I remember previous folks like Ryan Distelrath and Lynn Miller. Chicken wings are almost always added to the food choices for those of us who are not pizza It is understoof that different folks have different dupe boxes to bring along. Some folks fly in, and are limited as to what they could bring, even if they wanted to, so no one should feel bad if they have little or nothingto swap at the show. You will likely still get hit with stuff. Many guyshave taken to giving hits to guys in the days leading up to the swap (to lessen the possibility the recipient will buy them at the show), which decreases the hits received at the swap, but could be even more beneficial. Themain purpose of the swap, is not the cards acquired, but the camaraderie of seeing all the OBCers. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: cardclctor To: obc-national ; OBC-ramblings Sent: Fri, Jul 20, 2012 11:28 pm Subject: [OBC-National] OBC Swap Session - Two weeks away! Here's the info for anyone coming to Baltimore for the National - or just for the swap itself. Also, this might help a lot of the rookies (who will beat the show or the swap for the first time) know what they can expect. Date: Sat Aug. 4th, 2012 Time: Show lets out at 6, so starting @ 7 or 7:30 until they kick us out Place: Red Roof Inn - Washington, DC/BWI Airport 827 Elkridge Landing Road, Linthicum Heights, MD 21090 Menu: Pizza and soda. (Special dietary requests must be given a few hours notice.) Not sure if they'll let us bring alcohol in, but I'm guessing not. Total cost: $100 + the cost of food split 20-25 ways... that's $6-7 each I'm guessing, unless we can get a dealer sponsorship or have leftover badge money, then even less. I stole the following from an e-mail I sent out a few years ago, but it's still Naturally, there is a very precise schedule of events that we've developed over the last 15 years or so holding these swap sessions. Here's what the schedule looks like so far: 1) Show lets out 2) People find their way to the swap. Please remember that the most direct route is not always the most fun. Contact Al Cummings for details. 3) Once everyone arrives, attendance is taken (we've skipped this step every year in the past and will probably continue doing so in the future). 4) Food and beverages are served. 5) Food and beverages are sometimes spilled onto the cards as they're passed 6) Other activities ensue, mostly at the spur of the moment, including someor all of the following: A) Freebay auction - someone stands up and announces a card up for bids - first bid wins. Only bids under a penny are allowed. B) Card pelting - one of my favorites. Someone picks a year on an easy to hit wantlist and starts reading numbers. That poor soul is then bombardedfrom all directions with hits to the list as he reads off the numbers. Special bonus if you can get the card to land perfectly on the bill of their OBC C) OBC card show - no table fees, no prices, no haggling - bring your wantlist around and check out everyone's dupes boxes looking for hits to yourlist. Most of the time this is better than the Convention. D) Al Cummings finally arrives after stopping for gas in Brazil on the way E) People show off their show finds, new sets they've started and ones they've F) Some structured trades are made, dealer scum transactions, and plans are made to split that large lot of cards someone saw at a show, but can't afford by themselves. G) Card flipping - a blast from the past... and I play for keeps ;-) 7) It gets late and people start heading back to their hotel or making the long drive home. 8) Swap session adjourns and some plans are made to do it all over again next Well, there you have it. This schedule isn't quite so rigid... of course it's subject to change without notice. You don't have to worry about bringinga ton of cards with you - just bring what you can. Remember, there's goingto be a show with a ton of cards - and you also have to make room for all the ones you're going to be bringing back with you when it's all over. Bring your wantlist, your appetite and your ability to have a good time and you'll be just fine. TAYL, Ken M Here's the info for anyone coming to Baltimore for the National - or just for the swap itself. Also, this might help a lot of the rookies (who will beat the show or the swap for the first time) know what they can expect. Date: Sat Aug. 4th, 2012 Time: Show lets out at 6, so starting @ 7 or 7:30 until they kick us out Place: Red Roof Inn - Washington, DC/BWI Airport 827 Elkridge Landing Road, Linthicum Heights, MD 21090 Menu: Pizza and soda. (Special dietary requests must be given a few hours notice.) Not sure if they'll let us bring alcohol in, but I'm guessing not. Total cost: $100 + the cost of food split 20-25 ways... that's $6-7 each I'm guessing, unless we can get a dealer sponsorship or have leftover badge money, then even less. I stole the following from an e-mail I sent out a few years ago, but it's still Naturally, there is a very precise schedule of events that we've developed over the last 15 years or so holding these swap sessions. Here's what the schedule looks like so far: 1) Show lets out 2) People find their way to the swap. Please remember that the most direct route is not always the most fun. Contact Al Cummings for details. 3) Once everyone arrives, attendance is taken (we've skipped this step every year in the past and will probably continue doing so in the future). 4) Food and beverages are served. 5) Food and beverages are sometimes spilled onto the cards as they're passed 6) Other activities ensue, mostly at the spur of the moment, including someor all of the following: A) Freebay auction - someone stands up and announces a card up for bids - first bid wins. Only bids under a penny are allowed. B) Card pelting - one of my favorites. Someone picks a year on an easy to hit wantlist and starts reading numbers. That poor soul is then bombardedfrom all directions with hits to the list as he reads off the numbers. Special bonus if you can get the card to land perfectly on the bill of their OBC C) OBC card show - no table fees, no prices, no haggling - bring your wantlist around and check out everyone's dupes boxes looking for hits to yourlist. Most of the time this is better than the Convention. D) Al Cummings finally arrives after stopping for gas in Brazil on the way E) People show off their show finds, new sets they've started and ones they've F) Some structured trades are made, dealer scum transactions, and plans are made to split that large lot of cards someone saw at a show, but can't afford by themselves. G) Card flipping - a blast from the past... and I play for keeps ;-) 7) It gets late and people start heading back to their hotel or making the long drive home. 8) Swap session adjourns and some plans are made to do it all over again next Well, there you have it. This schedule isn't quite so rigid... of course it's subject to change without notice. You don't have to worry about bringinga ton of cards with you - just bring what you can. Remember, there's goingto be a show with a ton of cards - and you also have to make room for all the ones you're going to be bringing back with you when it's all over. Bring your wantlist, your appetite and your ability to have a good time and you'll be just fine. TAYL, Ken M ================= To: tvalacak@comcast.net, mp1067@Hotmail.com Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:03:34 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question If anyone has or is looking for Burger King cards, I still need the 1977 Yankees, 1978 Astros and Rangers and 1979 Phillies. I have near complete sets of 1978 & 1979 Yankees to swap towards the ones I need. Fun sets, but hard to distinguish from the regular issues. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: tvalacak To: Michael Cc: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 11:09 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question I can confirm that the Chambliss is the Burger King Yankees card. BK put sets out for the Tigers, Phillies, Astros, and Yanks. If Chris needs a home, I would be happy to swap for him. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm From: "Michael" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:30:35 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1977 topps question I have a 1977 topps #12 Larry Haney and a 1977 Topps #12 Chris Chambliss. They both have the same number, but I can't find this error anywhere on the internet. Can anyone help? Mike Dillon ================= To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-national@yahoogroups.com, Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:43:05 -0400 (EDT) From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] OBC Swap Session - Two weeks away! Hi all, I like to put my 2 cents in for the newbees going to the show, do not blow all your money at the first table you see. I did this my first Nationals (I was like a kid in a candy store).. There are so many great deals to be found and made I recommend doing a Walkabout..walk around the show for a few hours, take it all in. Look for a OBCer buried in a bargain boxes and join in the dig,, Happy Trading to all -----Original Message----- From: cardclctor To: obc-national ; OBC-ramblings Sent: Fri, Jul 20, 2012 11:28 pm Subject: [OBC-National] OBC Swap Session - Two weeks away! Here's the info for anyone coming to Baltimore for the National - or just for the swap itself. Also, this might help a lot of the rookies (who will beat the show or the swap for the first time) know what they can expect. Date: Sat Aug. 4th, 2012 Time: Show lets out at 6, so starting @ 7 or 7:30 until they kick us out Place: Red Roof Inn - Washington, DC/BWI Airport 827 Elkridge Landing Road, Linthicum Heights, MD 21090 Menu: Pizza and soda. (Special dietary requests must be given a few hours notice.) Not sure if they'll let us bring alcohol in, but I'm guessing not. Total cost: $100 + the cost of food split 20-25 ways... that's $6-7 each I'm guessing, unless we can get a dealer sponsorship or have leftover badge money, then even less. I stole the following from an e-mail I sent out a few years ago, but it's still Naturally, there is a very precise schedule of events that we've developed over the last 15 years or so holding these swap sessions. Here's what the schedule looks like so far: 1) Show lets out 2) People find their way to the swap. Please remember that the most direct route is not always the most fun. Contact Al Cummings for details. 3) Once everyone arrives, attendance is taken (we've skipped this step every year in the past and will probably continue doing so in the future). 4) Food and beverages are served. 5) Food and beverages are sometimes spilled onto the cards as they're passed 6) Other activities ensue, mostly at the spur of the moment, including someor all of the following: A) Freebay auction - someone stands up and announces a card up for bids - first bid wins. Only bids under a penny are allowed. B) Card pelting - one of my favorites. Someone picks a year on an easy to hit wantlist and starts reading numbers. That poor soul is then bombardedfrom all directions with hits to the list as he reads off the numbers. Special bonus if you can get the card to land perfectly on the bill of their OBC C) OBC card show - no table fees, no prices, no haggling - bring your wantlist around and check out everyone's dupes boxes looking for hits to yourlist. Most of the time this is better than the Convention. D) Al Cummings finally arrives after stopping for gas in Brazil on the way E) People show off their show finds, new sets they've started and ones they've F) Some structured trades are made, dealer scum transactions, and plans are made to split that large lot of cards someone saw at a show, but can't afford by themselves. G) Card flipping - a blast from the past... and I play for keeps ;-) 7) It gets late and people start heading back to their hotel or making the long drive home. 8) Swap session adjourns and some plans are made to do it all over again next Well, there you have it. This schedule isn't quite so rigid... of course it's subject to change without notice. You don't have to worry about bringinga ton of cards with you - just bring what you can. Remember, there's goingto be a show with a ton of cards - and you also have to make room for all the ones you're going to be bringing back with you when it's all over. Bring your wantlist, your appetite and your ability to have a good time and you'll be just fine. TAYL, Ken M Here's the info for anyone coming to Baltimore for the National - or just for the swap itself. Also, this might help a lot of the rookies (who will beat the show or the swap for the first time) know what they can expect. Date: Sat Aug. 4th, 2012 Time: Show lets out at 6, so starting @ 7 or 7:30 until they kick us out Place: Red Roof Inn - Washington, DC/BWI Airport 827 Elkridge Landing Road, Linthicum Heights, MD 21090 Menu: Pizza and soda. (Special dietary requests must be given a few hours notice.) Not sure if they'll let us bring alcohol in, but I'm guessing not. Total cost: $100 + the cost of food split 20-25 ways... that's $6-7 each I'm guessing, unless we can get a dealer sponsorship or have leftover badge money, then even less. I stole the following from an e-mail I sent out a few years ago, but it's still Naturally, there is a very precise schedule of events that we've developed over the last 15 years or so holding these swap sessions. Here's what the schedule looks like so far: 1) Show lets out 2) People find their way to the swap. Please remember that the most direct route is not always the most fun. Contact Al Cummings for details. 3) Once everyone arrives, attendance is taken (we've skipped this step every year in the past and will probably continue doing so in the future). 4) Food and beverages are served. 5) Food and beverages are sometimes spilled onto the cards as they're passed 6) Other activities ensue, mostly at the spur of the moment, including someor all of the following: A) Freebay auction - someone stands up and announces a card up for bids - first bid wins. Only bids under a penny are allowed. B) Card pelting - one of my favorites. Someone picks a year on an easy to hit wantlist and starts reading numbers. That poor soul is then bombardedfrom all directions with hits to the list as he reads off the numbers. Special bonus if you can get the card to land perfectly on the bill of their OBC C) OBC card show - no table fees, no prices, no haggling - bring your wantlist around and check out everyone's dupes boxes looking for hits to yourlist. Most of the time this is better than the Convention. D) Al Cummings finally arrives after stopping for gas in Brazil on the way E) People show off their show finds, new sets they've started and ones they've F) Some structured trades are made, dealer scum transactions, and plans are made to split that large lot of cards someone saw at a show, but can't afford by themselves. G) Card flipping - a blast from the past... and I play for keeps ;-) 7) It gets late and people start heading back to their hotel or making the long drive home. 8) Swap session adjourns and some plans are made to do it all over again next Well, there you have it. This schedule isn't quite so rigid... of course it's subject to change without notice. You don't have to worry about bringinga ton of cards with you - just bring what you can. Remember, there's goingto be a show with a ton of cards - and you also have to make room for all the ones you're going to be bringing back with you when it's all over. Bring your wantlist, your appetite and your ability to have a good time and you'll be just fine. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:48:09 -0400 (EDT) To: thenamenotused@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Content-Language: en Even for one day, this is the place to be. The group can help you condense what you are looking for as we are all spread out with cell phones in hand! Look for the OBC Hats. Make sure you walk right up to any of us. The experience of meeting some of the guys makes it worthwhile in itself! In a message dated 7/18/2012 8:59:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thenamenotused@yahoo.com writes: I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. If I can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier _Thenamenotused@yahoo.com_ (mailto:Thenamenotused@yahoo.com) ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:22:45 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Preparing for the National and other stuff... So far... Some of the questions to be answered.. Yes, it's worth going to the National even for one day. You have 20 or so eyes and ears to help you scope. Keep your cell phone handy! I think it was Rich who I found a cheap Schmidt rookie for, got on the phone, in 2 min he owned it! Friday night- This has traditionally been baseball game night. I'll be in town early, so Mac and myself are thinking of hitting the Tuesday game in DC. We can all trek to DC Friday night. I'll leave this up to you. If we don't go to the game, I'm sure we will all hit dinner in the harbor. I'll need to know who wants to go Friday so we can organize the carpool or who wants dinner so I can scout out the place to eat. Speaking of dinner--- Eating in Baltimore ain't cheap! Keep this in mind when setting up your budget for the show. If you have a room with a kitchen, you might want to hit a local store and stack up for breakfast or lunch. Chicago is next year. I plan on finding a way to embarrass everyone again. Yes I have to find a hottie to take a pic with. I won't have scheduled entertainment for myself this trip (that fell through). Doesn't mean I won't be looking LOL... Side note- The Chambliss 77 is from the Burger King set. "B) Card pelting - one of my favorites. Someone picks a year on an easy to hit wantlist and starts reading numbers. That poor soul is then bombarded from all directions with hits to the list as he reads off the numbers. Special bonus if you can get the card to land perfectly on the bill of their OBC cap." I'm sure I will have this picture of the card landing on my cap in the OBC slideshow. Hitz- See Ken's previous email. Bring yourself, some cards, lotsa cash and CELL PHONE. Call me when you get there. We'll find you and get you acclimated. And follow Mike's advice. Don't worry about hitting everyone's list. It's about grown men playing with cardboard pictures of other men. And NOT losing the keys to your car! Kevin good advice. Don't blow it all at one table. We will help guide you to some great tables. No Kurt puts a dent on getting some good stuff, but Uncle Dick is a must as well as a few others. Is anyone putting together the dealer list and their locations? This is invaluable information! Mike's idea- bring pen and paper. I use index cards. And pick each other's brains. I am not always up to date on values, so the resources in people we have will help tremendously. "What do you think?" is a great question to ask an OBCer! ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:24:02 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: The Roster v 1.8 Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes Yes Su-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 Cousin's House No Yes W-Th Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Yes F-Su Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Ron Perry Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot 586-306-6033 No Yes F-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Family No No Fr Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Home No Yes Sat Joe Denning 518-322-1692 None No No Thurs ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:29:29 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Another suggestion... This from Richard. How about a short list of things we are each on the search for at the National? This will help with the scouting of cards. Pop those in an email, I'll try to arrange them for a printout before I leave. ================= To: , , Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:32:35 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Speaking of cell phones, I have a hard time remembering everyone's wantlist(I know, I'm not getting any younger) so it would be nice to have a super short list of what everyone is primarily looking for. By super short, I mean something like "early Bowmans" or " '66-'67 Topps high #s" or "vintage non-sport". Something like that could go on a short memo that could be kepton a smart phone or even on a piece of paper and be easily referred to. Is that possible to organize, possibly in your spreadsheet, Sal? richard D To: thenamenotused@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:48:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Even for one day, this is the place to be. The group can help you condense what you are looking for as we are all spread out with cell phones in hand!Look for the OBC Hats. Make sure you walk right up to any of us. The experience of meeting some of the guys makes it worthwhile in itself! In a message dated 7/18/2012 8:59:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thenamenotused@yahoo.com I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. IfI can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC events. Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier ================= To: , , Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:33:38 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Wow, that was fast! I hit send and within 2 seconds, sal answers. You da man! richard D To: chicod1@aol.com; thenamenotused@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brightair@msn.com Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 16:32:35 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Speaking of cell phones, I have a hard time remembering everyone's wantlist(I know, I'm not getting any younger) so it would be nice to have a super short list of what everyone is primarily looking for. By super short, I mean something like "early Bowmans" or " '66-'67 Topps high #s" or "vintage non-sport". Something like that could go on a short memo that could be kepton a smart phone or even on a piece of paper and be easily referred to. Is that possible to organize, possibly in your spreadsheet, Sal? richard D To: thenamenotused@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 15:48:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] National question Even for one day, this is the place to be. The group can help you condense what you are looking for as we are all spread out with cell phones in hand!Look for the OBC Hats. Make sure you walk right up to any of us. The experience of meeting some of the guys makes it worthwhile in itself! In a message dated 7/18/2012 8:59:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, thenamenotused@yahoo.com I have never been to a national before. I think I can make it this year. IfI can I would be on Thursday ONLY. Is it worth it to go for only the one day, and so early in the week? I know I would miss most all of the OBC events. Can anybody share their opinion about this? Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:10:22 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC National From: Lynn Miller Subject: Incomings Since I can't make the National again, I've spoken to Mike Rich about living it vicariously through him. In that regard, I'm sending a priority mail box to Ed Schott on Monday, Tuesday at the latest, to give to Mike upon his arrival. Mike has agreed to pass out the contents to those attending. I tried to hit everyone, but some of you are harder than my list, sorry. There will be some cards that might be on your lists and you don't have to look for ;>) I'm also sending another box of shiny stuff that is a mix of all sports that I have no use for. Feel free to rummage and anything that isn't taken, Ed will donate to his kids' charity. Have fun, wish I could be there. Maybe next year in Chicago. Looking forward to the always interesting Ramblings. OBC is the Greatest, Lynn ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:50:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "j p" Subject: Congratulations Ron Santo My favorite player of all time, Ron Santo (#10) gets inducted into the Hallof Fame today. I have been to Cooperstown many times, and wish I could bethere today for the ceremonies. Batting average .277 Home runs 342 Hits 2,254 Runs batted in 1,331 9=C3=97 All-Star (1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973) 5=C3=97 Gold Glove Award winner (1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968) 1973 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award RIP Ron - and congratulations. You made it!!! ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:32:34 -0700 To: j p From: David Fallen Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Congratulations Ron Santo I'm also glad Ron Santo finally got selected. He and I went to the same high school (Franklin HS, Seattle). He was class of '58 and I was "62, so we did not overlap. But my sister (class of '59) had several classes with Ron. He was quite a legend in our area, as you might imagine. One story has it that he stood on Cheapskate Hill behind Sick's Seattle Stadium and threw a baseball over the outfield fence into the stadium, and it got to home plate on one bounce. It's a shame he didn't live to see his selection for the HOF. On 7/22/2012 7:50 AM, j p wrote: > My favorite player of all time, Ron Santo (#10) gets inducted into the > Hall of Fame today. I have been to Cooperstown many times, and wish I > could be there today for the ceremonies. > -------------------- > Batting average .277 > Home runs 342 > Hits 2,254 > Runs batted in 1,331 > 9Ã--- All-Star (1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973) > 5Ã--- Gold Glove Award winner (1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968) > 1973 Lou Gehrig Memorial Award > -------------------- > RIP Ron - and congratulations. You made it!!! ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:01:28 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings From: John Dahms Subject: 1957 topps #141 Al Aber waiver wire this is not in pristine condition. if interested let me know John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= To: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 17:57:02 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: net54 dinner with speakers Anyone ever been to one of these? Gonna happen Friday evening after the floor shuts down, in the Hyatt. Supposedly it is a tradition. I never heard of it until a couple days ago and wonder what it's like. Anyone want to share any experiences? richard D=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 20:19:22 -0700 To: richard dingman From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] net54 dinner with speakers I have been to a couple...they are typically very interesting and fun...thefirst time I went I was nervous because I knew no one. It was great...met a lot of interesting people and put some faces to some great hobby names including rob lifson, josh Wolfe, Leon luckey, etc. I highly recommend it andwish the national would come west again. Sent from my iPad On Jul 22, 2012, at 2:57 PM, richard dingman wrote: > Anyone ever been to one of these? > Gonna happen Friday evening after the floor shuts down, in the Hyatt. Supposedly it is a tradition. > I never heard of it until a couple days ago and wonder what it's like. > Anyone want to share any experiences? > richard D ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:43:29 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Anyone ever buy from Philly Sports Cards? Hi guys, I've discovered Philly Sports Cards (phillysportscards.com) on the net, andthey have some pretty good pricing. Has anyone ever purchased from them before, and if so, how was the experience? Their website seems a bit clumsy - looks like you have to e-mail them with what you want to buy (no on-line checkout) - but compared to Dave's Vintage, Deans, and California Sports Cards, their prices are lower across theboard. ================= To: , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:25:41 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Last call for Nats game on Tuesday the 31st Anyone wishing to join in the Nationals game on Tuesday before the national...please let me know now. Need to buy those tickets soon. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:37:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: complete panel checklists where could i find complete panel checklists for the 1980-81 baasketball abd 1981 Topps scath offs Richard Labs ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:22:21 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bill Ashton" Subject: Yanks Sure am glad those tightwad Yankees finally paid out a few bucks so they can be competitive! ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:20:16 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Roster v 1.6 Did Rob Gioia change his plans and is no longer attending? -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-National ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2012 10:46 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Roster v 1.6 2 weeks to go! Here is the latest... let me know if you can help me fill in some holes... we are potentially looking at a record turnout! Cell Phone Tues Game Swap Session Days There La Quinta Inn Fairfield Inn & Suites Red Roof Inn(airport) Hyatt Baltimore Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Mt Vernon Hotel Roadway Inn Mid Town Roadway Inn Mid Town Ramada Baltimore West Ramada Baltimore West 2 weeks to go! Here is the latest... let me know if you can help me fill in some holes... we are potentially looking at a record turnout! Cell Phone Tues Game Swap Session Days There La Quinta Inn Fairfield Inn & Suites Red Roof Inn(airport) Hyatt Baltimore Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Mt Vernon Hotel Roadway Inn Mid Town Roadway Inn Mid Town Ramada Baltimore West Ramada Baltimore West ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:52:13 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... Content-Language: en I'll try to pop all this info together, but if anyone wants to collate this into a nice list, that would be cool. If anyone has a short list they want to pass around, post it to all. I can still grab it and try to make a master list. From: yazobc@insightbb.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/22/2012 10:49:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I have already compiled a top 20 list for myself to keep from going astray. I will trim this to a top 5 for the "OBC Short List" 1. 1960 Topps #'s 535 and 543. Set Crushers 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #59 Aaron. Set Crusher 3. 1966 Topps High numbers, all I can find and afford - fair, good, very good, excellent, whatever, who cares? 4. 1967 Topps High numbers, same as above. 5. 1953 Topps I'm missing 43 but I'll buy all the cheap ones I can whether I have them or not. Greg (yaz) On 7/21/2012 3:29 PM, _ChicoD1@aol.com_ (mailto:ChicoD1@aol.com) wrote: This from Richard. How about a short list of things we are each on the search for at the National? This will help with the scouting of cards. Pop those in an email, I'll try to arrange them for a printout before I leave. ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 02:23:04 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: The Roster v 1.7 Plus assorted information Last year they allowed everyone in for early bird if I remember correctly. I'll definitely need a badge to hold on to because I'm usually the guy who goes to the lobby to get the rookies in the show! Pop your shorts lists to everyone. Mike usually carries all that stuff in his briefcase (have we retired that thing yet? No way the hinges are still I love Tom's OBC photoshop cards! I wonder if we can make a set and get them printed? If anyone finds those basketball panel checklists that Richard is looking for, I'd like a copy. We have requests for the Friday night Nats game. Let me know if you are interested in that game. I'll add a slash in that column. Not sure about ticket availability especially for Friday. In the past, we have taken our chances and wound up ok. Risk/reward! It's about an hour to the game. HAS to be better than the trip to see the Dodgers! Rob G is not attending. Too much going on being a future big league manager at home! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues/Fri Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes/? Yes Su-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Yes F-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Home No Yes Sat Dan Cipra Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Joe Denning 518-322-1692 None No No Thurs Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Family No No Fr Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, No No Th Ron Perry Red Roof Inn(airport) No/Yes Yes Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No/Yes Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Roadway Inn Mid Town ? Yes Su-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot 586-306-6033 No/Yes Yes F-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 Cousin's House No Yes W-Th ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 06:52:06 -0700 (PDT) To: "ChicoD1@aol.com" , From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Roster v 1.7 Plus assorted information I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS JUST FOR THE PEOPLE GOING OR OPEN FOR EVERYONE. BUTIF THERE IS SOMEONE WHEN THEY SPEND THEIR OWN BUDGET STILL HAS TIME I'LL THROW OUT A SHORT LIST. I CAN SEND SOME MONEY NOW OR LATER IF YOU FIND SOMETHING. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO SHOP FOR ME. THANKS RICK NOT SURE WHAT THESE WOULD GO FOR OR PRICE BUT MAYBE 50$ CLEMENTE-20$ KILLEBREW-10$ MORGAN1967/68 OPC Posters# 4 clemente-31 killebrew-32 morgan WOULD LIKE ANY NOT TRIMMED OTHER DEFECTS OK AS LONG AS IT LOOKS DECENT. AGAIN NOT SURE WHAT THEY GO FOR BUT HOPING COMMONS FOR 30-40$ RANGE 1952 topps HIGH# 311-312-314-317-318-319-320-321-326-328-329-330-332-333-335-339-341-342-345-347-348-350-351-355-356-360-362-364-365-366-367-= COMMONS SHOULD BE 5$ CLEMENTE UP TO 50$?1962 TOPPS Bucksneed clemente-larker- mantilla- taylor- white WOULD LIKE TO KNOCK OFF ALOT OF COMMONS SHOULD GET THESE FOR 2$ OR LESS. I PUT THE VARIATIONS IN IF IN SAYS AB THAT MEANS NEED BOTH. WB MEANS WHITE BUTTONS AND THEY ARE THE CHEAPER ONES. IF YOU CAN GET SOME STARS CHEAP THAT BE GREAT ALSO1962 Salada plastic coinsI need # 2-3-4-7B CLEVLAND-9AB-11-12-13-17AB-18-21-23-24B WB-26-27-28-33-34B WB-38AB-39AB-40-41-42-44-46AB-47AB-48A-49-51B WB-52B ORIOLES-53AB-65AB-67-69B WB-74-76B WB-83-86B PHILLIES-87B WB-88B-SENATORS 89-90B WB-91A WB-97AB-99-102B METS-109-115-116-117-123AB-127AB-129A PHILLIES-131-135B WHITE SOX-138-139-143-146AB-149-153-154AB-159-160-162-163-166-168-170-172-173B WHITE SOX-175-178A 1ST BASE-180-181-182AB-183-184-185-187-189-190-191-193-195-196-199-200-201-203-204= From: "ChicoD1@aol.com" To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:23 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Roster v 1.7 Plus assorted information Last year they allowed everyone in for early bird if I remember correctly. I'll definitely need a badge to hold on to because I'm usually the guy who goes to the lobby to get the rookies in the show! Pop your shorts lists to everyone. Mike usually carries all that stuff in his briefcase (have we retired that thing yet? No way the hinges are still I love Tom's OBC photoshop cards! I wonder if we can make a set and get them printed? If anyone finds those basketball panel checklists that Richard is looking for, I'd like a copy. We have requests for the Friday night Nats game. Let me know if you are interested in that game. I'll add a slash in that column. Not sure about ticket availability especially for Friday. In the past, we have taken our chances and wound up ok. Risk/reward! It's about an hour to the game. HAS to be better than the trip to see the Dodgers! Rob G is not attending. Too much going on being a future big league manager at home! Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues/Fri Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes/? Yes Su-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Yes F-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Home No Yes Sat Dan Cipra Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Joe Denning 518-322-1692 None No No Thurs Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Family No No Fr Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, No No Th Ron Perry Red Roof Inn(airport) No/Yes Yes Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No/Yes Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Roadway Inn Mid Town ? Yes Su-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot 586-306-6033 No/Yes Yes F-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 Cousin's House No Yes W-Th ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:06:09 -0400 (EDT) From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... My Short List for the Show 1957 Topps CL 4/5 Contest card =E2=93 May 4th Contest card =E2=93 May 25th Lucky Penny Charm 1958 Topps: Updgrades needed ex+ or better 321 (T,Kluszewski/T.Williams) If you see any of these cards at the show please call me on my cell (516-641-1496). I am starting to get excited for the show.. Happy Trading, Kevin Martens -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-National ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:52 am Subject: [OBC-National] Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I'll try to pop all this info together, but if anyone wants to collate thisinto a nice list, that would be cool. If anyone has a short list they wantto pass around, post it to all. I can still grab it and try to make a master From: yazobc@insightbb.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/22/2012 10:49:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I have already compiled a top 20 list for myself to keep from going astray.I will trim this to a top 5 for the "OBC Short List" 1. 1960 Topps #'s 535 and 543. Set Crushers 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #59 Aaron. Set Crusher 3. 1966 Topps High numbers, all I can find and afford - fair, good, very good, excellent, whatever, who cares? 4. 1967 Topps High numbers, same as above. 5. 1953 Topps I'm missing 43 but I'll buy all the cheap ones I can whether I have them or not. Greg (yaz) On 7/21/2012 3:29 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: This from Richard. How about a short list of things we are each on the search for at the National? This will help with the scouting of cards. Pop those in an email, I'll try to arrange them for a printout before I leave. I'll try to pop all this info together, but if anyone wants to collate thisinto a nice list, that would be cool. If anyone has a short list they wantto pass around, post it to all. I can still grab it and try to make a master From: yazobc@insightbb.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/22/2012 10:49:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I have already compiled a top 20 list for myself to keep from going astray.I will trim this to a top 5 for the "OBC Short List" 1. 1960 Topps #'s 535 and 543. Set Crushers 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #59 Aaron. Set Crusher 3. 1966 Topps High numbers, all I can find and afford - fair, good, very good, excellent, whatever, who cares? 4. 1967 Topps High numbers, same as above. 5. 1953 Topps I'm missing 43 but I'll buy all the cheap ones I can whether I have them or not. Greg (yaz) On 7/21/2012 3:29 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: This from Richard. How about a short list of things we are each on the search for at the National? This will help with the scouting of cards. Pop those in an email, I'll try to arrange them for a printout before I leave. ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:20:10 -0700 (PDT) To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... If anybody sees the following T205s with SOVEREIGN backs, I'll gladly pay you Take Care, --- On Tue, 7/24/12, KEVINM38@aol.com wrote: From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2012, 4:06 PM My Short List for the Show 1957 Topps CL 4/5 Contest card =E2=93 May 4th Contest card =E2=93 May 25th Lucky Penny Charm 1958 Topps: Updgrades needed ex+ or better 321 (T,Kluszewski/T.Williams) If you see any of these cards at the show please call me on my cell (516-641-1496). I am starting to get excited for the show.. Happy Trading, Kevin Martens -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-National ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 1:52 am Subject: [OBC-National] Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I'll try to pop all this info together, but if anyone wants to collate thisinto a nice list, that would be cool. If anyone has a short list they wantto pass around, post it to all. I can still grab it and try to make a master From: yazobc@insightbb.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/22/2012 10:49:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I have already compiled a top 20 list for myself to keep from going astray.I will trim this to a top 5 for the "OBC Short List" 1. 1960 Topps #'s 535 and 543. Set Crushers 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #59 Aaron. Set Crusher 3. 1966 Topps High numbers, all I can find and afford - fair, good, very good, excellent, whatever, who cares? 4. 1967 Topps High numbers, same as above. 5. 1953 Topps I'm missing 43 but I'll buy all the cheap ones I can whether I have them or not. Greg (yaz) On 7/21/2012 3:29 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: This from Richard. How about a short list of things we are each on the search for at the National? This will help with the scouting of cards. Pop those in an email, I'll try to arrange them for a printout before I leave. ================= To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:27:49 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-National] The Roster v 1.7 Plus assorted information The briefcase is in Tipton condition and still in use. How else would youcarry lists for 539 sets that one is working on??? Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: ChicoD1 To: OBC-National ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 2:23 am Subject: [OBC-National] The Roster v 1.7 Plus assorted information Last year they allowed everyone in for early bird if I remember correctly. I'll definitely need a badge to hold on to because I'm usually the guy who goes to the lobby to get the rookies in the show! Pop your shorts lists to everyone. Mike usually carries all that stuff in his briefcase (have we retired that thing yet? No way the hinges are still working!) I love Tom's OBC photoshop cards! I wonder if we can make a set and get them If anyone finds those basketball panel checklists that Richard is looking for, I'd like a copy. We have requests for the Friday night Nats game. Let me know if you are interested in that game. I'll add a slash in that column. Not sure about ticket availability especially for Friday. In the past, we have taken our chances and wound up ok. Risk/reward! It's about an hour to the game. HAS to be better than the trip to see the Dodgers! Rob G is not attending. Too much going on being a future big league managerat Cell Phone Tues/Fri Game Swap Session Days There La Quinta Inn Hyatt Baltimore Ramada Baltimore West Ramada Baltimore West Roadway Inn Mid Town Mt Vernon Hotel Red Roof Inn(airport) Red Roof Inn(airport) Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Roadway Inn Mid Town Roadway Inn Mid Town Red Roof Inn(airport) Fairfield Inn & Suites Mt Vernon Hotel Cousin's House Last year they allowed everyone in for early bird if I remember correctly. I'll definitely need a badge to hold on to because I'm usually the guy who goes to the lobby to get the rookies in the show! Pop your shorts lists to everyone. Mike usually carries all that stuff in his briefcase (have we retired that thing yet? No way the hinges are still working!) I love Tom's OBC photoshop cards! I wonder if we can make a set and get them If anyone finds those basketball panel checklists that Richard is looking for, I'd like a copy. We have requests for the Friday night Nats game. Let me know if you are interested in that game. I'll add a slash in that column. Not sure about ticket availability especially for Friday. In the past, we have taken our chances and wound up ok. Risk/reward! It's about an hour to the game. HAS to be better than the trip to see the Dodgers! Rob G is not attending. Too much going on being a future big league managerat Cell Phone Tues/Fri Game Swap Session Days There La Quinta Inn Hyatt Baltimore Ramada Baltimore West Ramada Baltimore West Roadway Inn Mid Town Mt Vernon Hotel Red Roof Inn(airport) Red Roof Inn(airport) Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Roadway Inn Mid Town Roadway Inn Mid Town Red Roof Inn(airport) Fairfield Inn & Suites Mt Vernon Hotel Cousin's House ================= Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 19:12:58 -0700 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Erik & Leticia Greenwood Subject: Red Man Input I am presently re-evaluating my collecting goals. I have decided to create a 1,000 card wantlist. I really like the 52-55 Red Mans and want to add oneto my list. I am inquiring your thoughts on your favorite of the series. Thanks for your input. Erik Greenwood ================= To: elhegreenwood@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:03:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Man Input I personally like the '55 series but they are all great. There is an expiration variation on the '55s (each can be found with two different april 15th, june 15th). Mix of stars is good and the art is great. Just my opinion though. -----Original Message----- From: Erik & Leticia Greenwood To: obc-ramblings Sent: Wed, Jul 25, 2012 7:13 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Man Input I am presently re-evaluating my collecting goals. I have decided to create a 1,000 card wantlist. I really like the 52-55 Red Mans and want to add one to list. I am inquiring your thoughts on your favorite of the series. Thanks for your input. Erik Greenwood OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 01:09:41 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Short lists Lot's or requests for this. Ed is going to try to accumulate these lists. Please send your short lists out on the national and/or ramblings server so we can all see them and get them collated. Confirmed my reservation today, and YES this room has a fridge so I went shopping to get a lot of junk for my trip. Who lives in the general vicinity of the show? Email me, I have a question to ask. 4 Days and I'm on the road! Remember to grab and print the roster. Send me a text or call me when you get in. This is going to be the largest OBC get together ever. And even though Kent won't be going, I still won't be the longest tenured OBCer... That honor goes to Guru! I can't think of a better way to celebrate my 20th anniversary with this group than by meeting even MORE OBCers! I remember Prodigy, AOL, bringing Big Al into the group (1975 Minis), the legendary Dr John Ball (he'd remind me every fathers day of Jim Bunning's no hitter against the Mets), Mike Hair's ribs, Dave Kolenda who had a baseball card store in his basement. Someone walking through his screen door that year. The battle that raged until Jim Montgomery grabbed everyone and put together the first board (yeah I was on that) and built the website. The 1975 Topps weekend where we built the set practically from scratch and sent to Kevin Lohse (where they practically all arrived at the post office the same day). Bob ZZ Miller (I still own the Bob Miller collection, its in the original package he sent it to me in). The kids Ryan and Josh (oh my has Josh grown up!). Seen births, deaths, marriages, divorces. Met some of the coolest people ever. Kent, my National partner (who will be missed this year). The Blue Bastards, the Red Bastards. You guys finishing my 58 set last year. A pretty good run... Lets do this for at least another 20 eh? I'll have the slide show running at the swap for OBC Nationals past... PS- oh yeah, I used to write the longest emails until Ken joined the group. And Morgantiesque needs to be put in the OBS slang dictionary! ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 04:47:46 +0000 (UTC) To: ChicoD1@aol.com, easchott@comcast.net From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Short lists Hello all , Sal asked that we post a =E2=9Cshort list=E2=9D for bird-dogging at the National =E2=93 I have (21) cards I will be looking for that will complete (5) Topps sets for me. Here is that list: 1955 TOPPS 2 (Williams), 50 (J.Robinson), 164 (Clemente) and 210 (Snider). 1956 TOPPS 110 (Berra), 135 (Mantle). 1961 TOPPS 475 (Mantle MVP), 572 ( B.Roby AS ), 578 ( Mantle AS ), 580 ( Kaline AS ). 1963 TOPPS 200 (Mantle) and 537 (Rose RC). 1966 TOPPS 517B (529 W.Sox Rookies) 526 (Twins Team), 540 (McLain), 547 (Clarke), 562 (Snyder), 577 (Lamabe), 583 (Tiger Team), 589 (Klimchock) and 598 (G.Perry). Now I can only hope that Steve Rittenberg hasn=E2=99t already deleted mylist because it has (3) Mantles and the Rose RC and I am aware that many of these will be on many lists out there. It doesn=E2=99t take a rocket scientist to see that these are =E2=9Ckey=E2=9D cards from these sets so I=E2=99m going to see them at the National. The real point is that I need to find them at a price I can afford and that will be the ch all enge.I am encouraged by Peter Mead=E2=99s recent disclosure of reasonably priced Rose RC=E2=99s so it may be possible to pick it up in Baltimore reasonably. I=E2=99m looking forward to shaking some hands for the first time and meeting up with old friends. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:38:55 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Man Input The Red Mans can all be found with expiration date variations in all four years. They're all equally cool to collect, with maybe the 52's being the toughest to complete (mostly due to the Ted Williams being overpriced a lot). Otherwise, there's no Mantles in the entire run and you can usually find HOF'ers reasonably priced - in some cases in single digits... unless you're going for cards with the tabs intact, but that's un-OBC-like :-) They're some of the nicest looking cards, although the backs are very plain and are identical for every card in each year (save the aforementioned expiration date). Collect them all! As long as you don't go for the variations or a master set with and without tabs, you should stay relatively sane and have a lot of fun collecting them. Hope this helps, Ken M - PS - I'm looking for expiration date variations for all four years, so if you get any dupes, look me up ;-D In a message dated 7/25/2012 10:13:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elhegreenwood@gmail.com writes: I am presently re-evaluating my collecting goals. I have decided to create a 1,000 card wantlist. I really like the 52-55 Red Mans and want to add one to my list. I am inquiring your thoughts on your favorite of the series. Thanks for your input. Erik Greenwood OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= To: cardclctor@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:06:41 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Man Input So as I read Ken's e-mail, it confirms earlier diagnosis, that I am insane.I am not only trying for a master set of Red Man variations, but also a master set with and without tabs! Translation, 4 complete sets of each Red Man year. Since I beleive the 1954 variations are date restrictive, I am hoping there are "only" 816 for this master set quest. So far I have 468, of which 193 are with tabs. Interestingly enough, I actually have more 1955s with tabs than without. In 1952 - 1954, I have more of the March/April dates than May/June, but in 1955 I have more of the June, than April dates. As with so many other sets, just keep nibbling awy. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: cardclctor To: obc-ramblings Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 7:39 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Man Input The Red Mans can all be found with expiration date variations in all fouryears. They're all equally cool to collect, with maybe the 52's being the toughest to complete (mostly due to the Ted Williams being overpriced a lot). Otherwise, there's no Mantles in the entire run and you can usually findHOF'ers reasonably priced - in some cases in single digits... unless you're going for cards with the tabs intact, but that's un-OBC-like :-) They're some of the nicest looking cards, although the backs are very plain and areidentical for every card in each year (save the aforementioned expiration date). Collect them all! As long as you don't go for the variations or a master set with and without tabs, you should stay relatively sane and have a lot of fun collecting them. Hope this helps, Ken M - PS - I'm looking for expiration date variations for all four years,so if you get any dupes, look me up ;-D In a message dated 7/25/2012 10:13:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, elhegreenwood@gmail.com I am presently re-evaluating my collecting goals. I have decided to create a 1,000 card wantlist. I really like the 52-55 Red Mans and want to addone to my list. I am inquiring your thoughts on your favorite of the series. Thanks for your input. Erik Greenwood OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:00:27 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Erik & Leticia Greenwood Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Red Man Input Thanks for the feedback everyone. I am going to go for the 55's - great mixof players for a 50 card set. Erik Greenwood > In a message dated 7/25/2012 9:13:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, elhegreenwood@gmail.com > I am presently re-evaluating my collecting goals. I have decided to create a 1,000 card wantlist. I really like the 52-55 Red Mans and want to add one to my list. I am inquiring your thoughts on your favorite of the series. Thanks for your input. > Erik Greenwood ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:39:48 +0000 (UTC) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Could it really have been trimmed??? Hello All, I remember quite a few years ago at one of the Nationals, I believe it was in Chicago where some OBC members got into quite an argument with the owner of a T-206 Wagner because our OBC expert believed the card to have been trimmed. Could that have been the truth? Check out this article: http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=13261#more-13261 Even the authenticators don't always get it correct. Does anybody else remember he incident??? BE WELL!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:23:54 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? I seem to remember that it was Joshua Levine....was it in Atlanta 1999 (first National I attended)? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? Hello All, I remember quite a few years ago at one of the Nationals, I believe it was in Chicago where some OBC members got into quite an argument with the owner of a T-206 Wagner because our OBC expert believedthe card to have been trimmed. Could that have been the truth?Check out this article: http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p13261#more-13261 Even the authenticators don't always get it correct. Does anybody else remember he incident??? BE WELL!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 07:52:01 +0000 (UTC) To: Glenn Codere From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? I can't remember - that's why I'm asking??? But I know it happened - kind of interesting all these years later to "get the truth"!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Codere" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 3:23:54 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? I seem to remember that it was Joshua Levine....was it in Atlanta 1999 (first National I attended)? Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? Hello All, I remember quite a few years ago at one of the Nationals, I believe it was in Chicago where some OBC members got into quite an argument with the ownerof a T-206 Wagner because our OBC expert believed the card to have been trimmed. Could that have been the truth? Check out this article: http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p13261#more-13261 Even the authenticators don't always get it correct. Does anybody else remember he incident??? BE WELL!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 01:06:34 -0700 (PDT) To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? As I recall, there was a big deal made about the fact the "The Card" was present. Joshua got up close to it, and dared to speculate that it looked trimmed to him. Several immediate sharp intakes of breath, and robust denials from the cards minders. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: Glenn Codere Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? I can't remember - that's why I'm asking??? But I know it happened - kind of interesting all these years later to "get the truth"!!! From: "Glenn Codere" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 3:23:54 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? I seem to remember that it was Joshua Levine....was it in Atlanta 1999 (first National I attended)? Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? Hello All, I remember quite a few years ago at one of the Nationals, I believe it was in Chicago where some OBC members got into quite an argument with the owner of a T-206 Wagner because our OBC expert believedthe card to have been trimmed. Could that have been the truth?Check out this article: http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p13261#more-13261 Even the authenticators don't always get it correct. Does anybody else remember he incident??? BE WELL!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 05:55:25 -0700 To: Glenn Codere From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? It was me at the Anaheim national...I think Steve was with me at the time too. One of us held the card and put another t206 behind it...you could see the Wagner was trimmed (smaller). It was a very good trim and tough to see until you actually held it and compared. Psa reps shouted at us if I recalland denied it being trimmed and immediately returned it to the glass display Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:06 AM, Glenn Codere wrote: > As I recall, there was a big deal made about the fact the "The Card" was present. Joshua got up close to it, and dared to speculate that it looked trimmed to him. Several immediate sharp intakes of breath, and robust denials from the cards minders. > G > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > From: "talbot1@comcast.net" > To: Glenn Codere > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? > I can't remember - that's why I'm asking??? But I know it happened - kind of interesting all these years later to "get the truth"!!! > From: "Glenn Codere" > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 3:23:54 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? > I seem to remember that it was Joshua Levine....was it in Atlanta 1999 (first National I attended)? > Glenn > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection WantList > From: "talbot1@comcast.net" > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:39 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? > Hello All, > I remember quite a few years ago at one of the Nationals, I believe it was in Chicago where some OBC members got into quite an argument with the owner of a T-206 Wagner because our OBC expert believed the card to have been trimmed. Could that have been the truth? Check out this article: > http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p13261#more-13261 > Even the authenticators don't always get it correct. Does anybody else remember he incident??? BE WELL!! > REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 09:40:24 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? Content-Language: en its not that the authenticators get it wrong, its that they lie. i remember that the psa folks admitted that a wagner they graded was trimmed,but it was such a rare card, they gave it a 10 anyway. and given the recent story about maestro knowingly selling counterfeit memorabilia, it wouldn't shock me to find out that there is cash passing under the table between the graders and the sellers to get grades or authentications that may be "stretching the truth" just a bit, or quite a lot Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 7/28/2012 2:24:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: I seem to remember that it was Joshua Levine....was it in Atlanta 1999 (first National I attended)? _Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music_ (http://rateyourmusic.com/~NormCash) _Glenn's Sports Collection WantList_ (https://sites.google.com/site/glennswantlist/home) From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Could it really have been trimmed??? Hello All, I remember quite a few years ago at one of the Nationals, I believe it was in Chicago where some OBC members got into quite an argument with the owner of a T-206 Wagner because our OBC expert believed the card to have been trimmed. Could that have been the truth? Check out this article: http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p13261#more-13261 Even the authenticators don't always get it correct. Does anybody else remember he incident??? BE WELL!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 11:20:18 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: How to store 1954 Bowman variations I decided to collect the 1954 Bowman variations. I'll collect the 1955 one's later after I make good progress on these. How do people store these in their binder? I've thought about having the "main set" with one of each number AND one of each variation at the back of the album. I can find most of these for $1 so collecting an extra and storing them together means that I can highlight the variation. I might add in a little tag (piece of paper or maybe a label) showing what the variation is. Your suggestions / comments / experience will be appreciated. The list will be on my page before I leave for Baltimore on Monday. Please let me know before you send me anything so I can cross it off my list. Saving me the search time is just as meaningful as filling in the spot in the binder. ps I have a 1954 Bowman #66 Ted Williams in my Red Sox binder. I'm not counting him as a variation for this project. ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 15:07:08 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: The Roster v 1.9 (Last before I leave) Name Cell Phone Hotel Tues/Fri Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 La Quinta Inn Yes/? Yes Su-Su Joe Adriance 703-405-0483 Home No Yes Th,Sa Anthony Arbeeny 347-680-5243 Hyatt Baltimore No Yes F-Su Brian Betza 717-525-0697 Home No Yes Sat Dan Cipra Greg Conway 812-204-9807 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Wade Conway 812-204-8499 Ramada Baltimore West Yes Tu-Su Andy Cook 703-338-7497 ??? No Yes Sa-Su Joe Denning 518-322-1692 None No No Thurs Richard Dingman 413-695-1303 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Bob Donaldson 781-534-2811 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes F-Su Steve Hitzeman 812-322-1931 Family No No Fr Kevin Martens 516-641-1496 Sheraton No/Yes Yes Th-Su Peter Mead 202-253-5018 Home No No Th Ken Morganti 339-440-2862 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes M-M Nick Pelletier 651-247-9116, No No Th Ron Perry Red Roof Inn(airport) No/Yes Yes Th-Su Ken Pillion 859-623-1310 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes Th-Su Bob Reed 203-494-9440 No Yes W/Th-Su Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Mt Vernon Hotel No/Yes Yes W-Su Steve Rittenberg 256-585-4329 Roadway Inn Mid Town ? Yes Su-Su Taylor Schock 919-423-5190 Roadway Inn Mid Town No Yes W-Su Ed Schott 443-632-6137 Home No Yes W-Su Wes Shepard 773-469-0326 No Yes Fr-Su Chris Stufflestreet 727-365-3784 Red Roof Inn(airport) No Yes W-Su Mark Talbot 586-306-6033 No/Yes Yes F-Su Larry Tipton 904-318-9372 Fairfield Inn & Suites No Yes Th-M Mac Wubben 240-423-4605 Mt Vernon Hotel No Yes W-Su Matt Yudt 215-847-5760 Cousin's House No Yes W-Th ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:16:48 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard" Subject: to all a greay show I hope everyone finds that special card in Baltimore this week. The best part is meeting all the wonderful OBC people and the dealers that supply our habit. The trading session is fantastic tthough last year as a newbie it also was quite intimidating at the start. OBC'ers quickly put me at ease. Thegenerosity of OBC members can not be surpassed. Enjoy the shoe and veryone have a safe journey. Take care and good luck, Richard Labs ================= To: , , Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 20:21:10 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... Sal and all, My short list: Looking for cheap lower grade of the following... Bowmans: 1948 - 1953. Topps: high #s 1961, 1966, 1967. Goudeys: 1933. Vintage non-sport. Richard Dingman To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:52:13 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I'll try to pop all this info together, but if anyone wants to collate thisinto a nice list, that would be cool. If anyone has a short list they wantto pass around, post it to all. I can still grab it and try to make a master From: yazobc@insightbb.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/22/2012 10:49:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another suggestion... I have already compiled a top 20 list for myself to keep from going astray.I will trim this to a top 5 for the "OBC Short List" 1. 1960 Topps #'s 535 and 543. Set Crushers 2. 1965 Topps Embossed #59 Aaron. Set Crusher 3. 1966 Topps High numbers, all I can find and afford - fair, good, very good, excellent, whatever, who cares? 4. 1967 Topps High numbers, same as above. 5. 1953 Topps I'm missing 43 but I'll buy all the cheap ones I can whether I have them or not. Greg (yaz) On 7/21/2012 3:29 PM, ChicoD1@aol.com wrote: This from Richard. How about a short list of things we are each on the search for at the National? This will help with the scouting of cards. Pop those in an email, I'll try to arrange them for a printout before I leave. ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:00:43 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: OBC Grading service.... In honor of the man who made Tipton Mint a phrase that even non-collectors know, I think we should ALL bring our WORST card to the swap meet Saturday night. I think we might be able to get the Guru of baseball cards to grade them for us! (From what I understand, he might even slab them in a wet paper bag for PS, this will be done by GGS (Guru Grading Service) and scaled Tipton Mint 10-1. This might be fun to see what everyone brings to the swap! ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 22:58:58 -0400 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, From: Jd3681 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Grading service.... ================= To: , , Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:03:25 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Short lists for National Can't wait to meet OBCers on Wed and Thurs in Baltimore - my first national. Really bummed I cant make it for the weekend and the swap session, but will just have to go next year. Here's my short list for National (easy, cuz I'm still 98% Topps vintage - key cards in 57 & 60 (i.e. cheap stars) - Hi #'s and key cards in 66-70 - '71: 3 left! 648, 705, 717 - '72: 6 left! 668, 686, 698, 699, 700, 731 - Pre-topps era Phillies See ya'll soon Matt Yudt From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:10 AM To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Short lists Lot's or requests for this. Ed is going to try to accumulate these lists. Please send your short lists out on the national and/or ramblings server so we can all see them and get them collated. Confirmed my reservation today, and YES this room has a fridge so I went shopping to get a lot of junk for my trip. Who lives in the general vicinity of the show? Email me, I have a question to ask. 4 Days and I'm on the road! Remember to grab and print the roster. Send me a text or call me when you get in. This is going to be the largest OBC get together ever. And even though Kent won't be going, I still won't be the longest tenured OBCer... That honor goes to Guru! I can't think of a better way to celebrate my 20th anniversary with this group than by meeting even MORE OBCers! I remember Prodigy, AOL, bringing Big Al into the group (1975 Minis), the legendary Dr John Ball (he'd remind me every fathers day of Jim Bunning's no hitter against the Mets), Mike Hair's ribs, Dave Kolenda who had a baseball card store in his basement. Someone walking through his screen door that year. The battle that raged until Jim Montgomery grabbed everyone and put together the first board (yeah I was on that) and built the website. The 1975 Topps weekend where we built the set practically from scratch and sent to Kevin Lohse (where they practically all arrived at the post office the same day). Bob ZZ Miller (I still own the Bob Miller collection, its in the original package he sent it to me in). The kids Ryan and Josh (oh my has Josh grown up!). Seen births, deaths, marriages, divorces. Met some of the coolest people ever. Kent, my National partner (who will be missed this year). The Blue Bastards, the Red Bastards. You guys finishing my 58 set last year. A pretty good run... Lets do this for at least another 20 eh? I'll have the slide show running at the swap for OBC Nationals past... PS- oh yeah, I used to write the longest emails until Ken joined the group. And Morgantiesque needs to be put in the OBS slang dictionary! ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:10:36 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-National] OBC Grading service.... Content-Language: en I would say that the proper cost would be a mint Mario Mendoza card! (unless you can find a card worth even less)... From: b_betza@yahoo.com To: ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: 7/28/2012 11:23:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Re: [OBC-National] OBC Grading service.... That is probably the best idea I've ever heard--- no mention of cost though so if it's prohbitive it might discourage participation! I'm also concerned that someone may just bring in a piece of cardboard and claim itwas once a card to gain the elusive -10 rating---but I guess a respected grading service would never do anything unethical right? See you Saturday in Charm City! Brian Betza From: "ChicoD1@aol.com" To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:00 PM Subject: [OBC-National] OBC Grading service.... In honor of the man who made Tipton Mint a phrase that even non-collectors know, I think we should ALL bring our WORST card to the swap meet Saturday night. I think we might be able to get the Guru of baseball cards to grade them for us! (From what I understand, he might even slab them in a wet paper bag for PS, this will be done by GGS (Guru Grading Service) and scaled Tipton Mint 10-1. This might be fun to see what everyone brings to the swap! ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 01:34:31 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "wwesmyster2@aol.com" Subject: Bad news. . . ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 08:31:15 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Available: Spiriva Not the name of an obscure ballplayer (I checked), Spiriva is an inhaler medication used to treat asthma. My wife changed medications recently but she still has a box of the old stuff. If you use this medication and would like a box shipped to you, let me know. I'm terrible about mailing but that can't last forever, can it? The Spiriva cost us about $70. My wife says its illegal to re-sell medication. How about at the same time, I offer some DS 1960s commons, each for about $15 - $20? I'm only looking to sell 2 or 3 commons. The other five thousand will stay in my dupes box. Let know if interested. ================= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 13:06:27 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: Where is Gord? I haven't been able to get in touch with Gord Ellis for a couple months, anyone have any information about what's going on with him? I know he often has internet problems, has anyone been getting emails from him? Richard D ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:35:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: What's in a name I joined OBC 12 years ago, just before the National in Cleveland. Showing up there, not knowing anyone, I would not have been surprised that people did not know my name, or called me by my last name. Now I know we have other Mike's, plus multiple Rich, Rick and Richard's, however, I would have thought folks in OBC would know my name by now. In the last week, I have received either thanks or e-mails from at least 3 OBCers who called me Rich or Rick in their e-mails. 2 of the 3, have met me in person. I guess I am just such a "quiet unassuming guy", they got my name mixed up. I am not offended, just find in funny. I guess this i spayback for my always getting Mac & Spike mixed up the first 3 or 4 years I met tham at Nationals. I have always been bad at names myself, and with 150+ in the group, it is easy enough to get names mixed up. Mike (maybe or maybe not) Rich ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:42:44 -0400 (EDT) From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Old Cardboard eNews 98 (June, 2012 The original HOM See item #2 below. I magazine with a stated purpose to highlight guys theyfelt who should be in the HOF who were not. The pre-cursor of the Hall ofMediocrity. Mike Rich -----Original Message----- From: Old Cardboard eNews To: mikesportsfan Sent: Mon, Jun 18, 2012 1:50 pm Subject: Old Cardboard eNews 98 (June, 2012) Your Information Resource for Vintage Baseball Cards eNews Issue #98 (June 2012) www.oldcardboard.com Please Note: If images are not loading in this email, click here. Welcome to Old Cardboard, the most complete reference resource for information about collecting vintage baseball cards and related memorabilia. More information about this eNewsletter and its companion website and magazine are found at the bottom of this page. 1. Updated Auction and Show Calendar 2. Hobby Magazine Profile: Sports Scoop 3. Latest Additions to the OldCardboard.com Website 4. News Briefs (A Digest of Recent Hobby Happenings) 1. Updated Auction and Show Calendar The following is a summary of vintage card events coming up in the next 30-45 days. For the most current listings on additional vintage card shows andauctions, see the Key Events Calendar on the Old Cardboard website. OC eNewsletter Sponsor June 2012 San Leandro, CA San Francisco Bay Area Show (see web page for details) Goodwin & Co. Auction (see website for details). Mile High Auction (see website for details). King of Prussia, PA Philadelphia Sports Card & Memorabilia Show (see website for details). Sports Card Link (see website for details). Sterling Sports Auctions (see website for details). July 2012 Chantilly, VA CSA Chantilly Show (see website for details). Huggins & Scott Auctions (see website for details). Greg Bussineau Sports Rarities Auction (see website for details). 2. Hobby Magazine Profile: Sports Scoop [Editor's Note: This is the first of a series of early hobby magazines the we will profile from time to time in the Old Cardboard eNewsletter. We have also added a new section to the OC website so that website users can readily access information about early hobby publications in a format similar to that used for card sets. Thus, where available, checklists of full runs of magazines will be provided along with galleries of their front covers. The Sports Scoop web pages have now been posted and others will follow. Wehope that you enjoy the new section and welcome input from readers to helpcomplete the checklists and gallerys for other early hobby publications.] Format for Issues 6-20 Format for Issues 1-5 Four West Coast friends--John Eichmann, Steve Mitchell, Russ Dille and Frederick Mahler--teamed up in early 1973 to launch Sports Scoop, a highly regarded hobby publication of the period. The four brought varying experiences and interests to the project but each spent the many hours required to make even this small publication a going concern. Eichmann, Mitchell and Dille were collectors with a passion toward books. Eichmann's main interest was statistics; Mitchell's, cards; and Dille, the minor leagues. The late Frederick Mahler was a non-collector but a stalwart friend who devoted countless hours assembling each issue. Mitchell had distributed an earlier hobby publication, the Sports Collector's Journal, beginning in 1967. SCJ was published over the next five years, with a significant break while Mitchell was in the service, through early 1972. It was about that time the foursome began planning the launch of Sports Sports Scoop's first issue of 36 pages featured Johnny Mize on the cover (example shown above) and was distributed in February of 1973. It was printed in a 7 by 8-1/2 inch format on heavy paper stock. The content included abalanced mixture of news, articles and advertising. The black and white offset printing included liberal use of images throughout. Starting with Issue #6 in July 1973, the magazine moved to a larger (8-1/2 by 11 inch) format. The cover was "upgraded to two colors (blue and red) with inside pages printed on thinner newsprint. subscription rates remainedunchanged at $6 per year. Lindstrom Back Among Sports Scoop's goals, Mitchell recently told Old Cardboard, was to serve as an advocate for worthy players for nomination to the baseball Hall of Fame. As part of that effort during its first year of publication, the magazine combined efforts with photograph seller and collector Jim Rowe to produce a 16-card "Hall of Fame Nominees" set. Fourteen of the cards, according to Mitchell, were of players who should have been in the HOF but were not at that time. Three of the former greats--Earl Averill, Johnny Mize and Fred Lindstrom--are each shown in three different poses in the set (one of the Lindstrom examples is shown at left). Other players featured on one card each are Shoeless Joe Jackson, Barney McCosky, George "Tioga" Burns, Bob Johnson and Jacques Fournier. Two other players--Jeff Heath and Erl Torgeson (also veteran baseballers)--are featured in the set as National Co-Chairmen on the Earl Averill Hall of Fame Committee, which was directed by Sports Scoop publisher Eichmann. The Sports Scoop "Hall of Fame Nominee" set is postcard-size (3-1/4 by 5-1/4 inches) and printed in black and white on thin card stock. The player's name is printed on the back along with references to set sponsors, Sports Scoop and Jim Rowe. In addition to its HOF advocate role, the magazine ran dozens of in-depth articles ranging from N172 Old Judges to postcard sets to gum card sets to the 1947 Signal Gasoline issue and more. Editor Mitchell was able to enlistthe support of a number of leading collectors and writers of the period including some names that are very recognizable to collectors today, nearly 40 years later. They included Don Steinbach, Ron Greenwood, Bill Haber, Mike Aronstein, Larry Fritsch, Richard Egan and a very young Keith Olbermann. The magazine continued for two years with a run of 20 issues. It's last issue was distributed in October 1974 and featured an action photo of Earl Averill on its cover with the caption "Hall of Fame 1975?" As the record shows, Averill was selected in January 1975 by the Veteran's Committee for enshrinement at Cooperstown--on the basis of his outstanding record and brought to light, at least in part by the efforts of collectors like those who supported Sports Scoop. Magazine Profile, Issues Checklist and Gallery of Covers for all issues of Sports Scoop have been added to the Old Cardboard website. OC eNewsletter Sponsor 3. Latest Additions to the OldCardboard.com Website We are continually expanding the Old Cardboard website with more set profiles, checklists and card galleries. Recent (past 30-40 days) additions include: Set Profiles have been added for: 1973-74 Sports Scoop Magazine 1985-94 The Old Judge Newsletter Set Checklists have been added for: 1973-74 Sports Scoop Magazine Set Galleries have been added for: 1973-74 Sports Scoop Magazine Updating the website with checklists and full set galleries for additional vintage sets is an ongoing project, so check back often to check out the latest additions. There are now many thousands of card images on the websiteand the list continues to grow. We welcome and encourage feedback with checklist additions, card images, error corrections and suggestions. Please send all input to editor@oldcardboard.com. In addition to these additions to the Old Cardboard website, we continue toexpand and refine our eBay Custom Search Links to make finding vintage baseball cards on eBay easier than ever. The results of these searches are continuously changing, so check back often to find the most recent listings. 4. News Briefs (A Digest of Recent Hobby Happenings) PSA Launches Collector Resource. Card grader Professional Sports Authenticator (PSA) has launched the first phase of a new online resource for collectibles and memorabilia. The initial phase can be viewed at PSA CollectibleFacts. According to the company, it plans to expand site toinclude additional sports and non-sports trading cards as well as PSA's extensive information and images about autographs, tickets, professional model baseball bats and other historic memorabilia. Reports of Our Death have been Greatly Exaggerated. A recent report of the demise of Old Cardboard Magazine has been greatly exaggerated--to borrow a quote from Mark Twain. Last month, an article in Sports Collectors Digestreported that OC had "ended its 22-issue run in the spring of 2010." . .. Whoa, guys, not quite so fast. In fact, Old Cardboard is alive and welland living in Austin, Texas. 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Old Cardboard | 13506 Caldwell Dr | Austin | TX | 78750 ================= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 18:02:55 -0400 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: Looking for tickets next week - Pirates / Indians / Tigers Hi all, Before I hit the StubHub or take my chances at the game, thought I'd see if anyone had available 3 tickets for any of the following: Pittsburgh - Monday 8/6 Cleveland - Tuesday 8/7 Detroit - Wednesday 8/8 Matt Yudt ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:15:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Housley Subject: Re: How to store 1954 Bowman variations One method I use is to load the variation side-by-side in the 8 (or 9) pocket pages with the non-variation - but first load the variation into a pennysleeve, with a small sticker on the bottom of the penny-sleeve that specifies the difference if it's not visible on the front. Of course it's MUCH easier to do this when you're first putting the cards in the pages - as opposed to putting the cards in, then deciding you want to collect the variations you swore you'd never collect, then having take all the %$^*# cards out &place them back in again. And just to be inconsistent - for my '56 set - with gray & whites side-by-side, along with the name left.name & centered team card variations - I placed the "1955" team card variations by themselves in the back of the binder.Why? Simple math & aesthetics. 4 team-card variations line up nicely in the 8-pocket pages, but add in the first "1955" variation & it throws the whole system out of whack. :-) ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:30:07 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: My Short Lists Content-Language: en Sorry I won't be able to make National this year. Too busy moving out of one home and into another. Some of these will be very tough, but some may be had at reasonable prices. Generally, as long as there is no major writing on front, major paper loss on back (prefer none or only minimal paper loss on front), or creases so bad you cant make out the picture, I am ok. You can always call me at 773-547-2112 if you find something. To those who are attending, have fun, and for you first timers, I will be more than you even expected! 38 cards to knock out topps and bowman (with a few variations to be added 1951 TOPPS RED BACK: 6 To Go: 23, 33, 36 (chi), 36 (phil), 42, 44 1952 TOPPS BASE SET WANT LIST 1 TO GO: 311 (mantle) 1953 TOPPS BACK VARIATIONS (w-white bio/b-black bio) 2 To Go: 104b (berra), 147w (spahn) 1966 TOPPS RUB-OFFS (well centered, no tears, no stains) 2 to go: 8 Battey, 40 Horlen 1969 TOPPS DECALS: 2 To Go: Clemente, Jackson, Mays, Rose 1949 BOWMAN: 15 to go: 29, 46, 100, 149, 159, 162, 174, 178, 179, 214, 224, 225, 226, 229, 233 1950 BOWMAN: 3 TO GO: 46 (berra), 98 (williams), 112 (hodges) 1951 BOWMAN: 1 TO GO: 253 (mantle) 1952 BOWMAN: 2 TO GO: 52 (rizzuto), 101 (mantle) 1954 BOWMAN WANT LIST: 4 TO GO: 65 (mantle), 66A (williams), 138A (hodges - .993 past year fielding avg), 161 (berra) Thanks for looking, if you get a chance Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 7/28/2012 9:00:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ChicoD1@aol.com writes: In honor of the man who made Tipton Mint a phrase that even non-collectors know, I think we should ALL bring our WORST card to the swap meet Saturday night. I think we might be able to get the Guru of baseball cards to grade them for us! (From what I understand, he might even slab them in a wet paper bag for PS, this will be done by GGS (Guru Grading Service) and scaled Tipton Mint 10-1. This might be fun to see what everyone brings to the swap! ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 07:13:39 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Stan Hack collectors Are there any collectors of Stan Hack cards & memorabilia? If not, I can send to Gino for his Cubs collection. Also, who started the concept of "Stan Hack" as a pseudonym for an anonymous gift? ================= To: , , Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:00:11 -0400 From: Taylor Schock Subject: 1993 Conlon set and charity donation cards to the National If you are going to the National, please let me know if would like any of the following and I will gladly bring them along. A ) 1993 Conlon complete set in tin (661-990) B ) Charity donation cards (any sport) - I know a number of you donate cards to various charities and I can bring a few boxes of cards to help. It will be a lot easier to load them in the car to Baltimore than try to ship them. If anyone is interested, please let me know and I will bring some along. ================= To: "directorth@aol.com" , Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 09:17:23 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How to store 1954 Bowman variations I started out placing variations right next to the non-variation, but afterdiscovering new variations and having to re-load all subsequent cards a half dozen times, that got old fast. I realized new variations were always going to be found, so I needed a better system. Now, I load all cards by number only, so every last card on a page is always a multiple of 8 or 9. All variations are on a separate page inserted right after the non-variation card page, with a small piece of paper identifying the variation details in an adjacent slot. This way I am always prepared for any number of new variations, and can identify what kind of variation, in case I forget. It also keeps the variation close to the normal card, for Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 21:15:24 -0400 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How to store 1954 Bowman variations One method I use is to load the variation side-by-side in the 8 (or 9) pocket pages with the non-variation - but first load the variation into a pennysleeve, with a small sticker on the bottom of the penny-sleeve that specifies the difference if it's not visible on the front. Of course it's MUCH easier to do this when you're first putting the cards in the pages - as opposed to putting the cards in, then deciding you want to collect the variations you swore you'd never collect, then having take all the %$^*# cards out &place them back in again. And just to be inconsistent - for my '56 set - with gray & whites side-by-side, along with the name left.name & centered team card variations - I placed the "1955" team card variations by themselves in the back of the binder.Why? Simple math & aesthetics. 4 team-card variations line up nicely in the 8-pocket pages, but add in the first "1955" variation & it throws the whole system out of whack. :-) ================= To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:38:24 -0400 From: Subject: Fw: Small set baseball singles to trade From: nickcov@snip.net Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:37 AM To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com Subject: Small set baseball singles to trade Hi Everyone I have the following cards available condition is all over the board let meknow what you could use. 1974 Pioneers of Baseball: 1, 3, 4, 10, 13, 19, 22, 24, 28 1975 Hostess: 35, 48, 49, 125 1976 Isaly=E2=99s Discs: Hunter, Gullett, May, Luzinski 1976 Hostess: 9, 12, 73, 74, 75, 94, 98, 121, 122, 123, 127, 128, 129 1977 Hostess: 1, 37, 38, 57, 142, 144, 149 1979 Tcma 50=E2=99s: 2, 5, 6, 9, 14, 17, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 29, 30, 34,35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 53, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, 64, 65, 67, 70, 73, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 90, 91, 96, 97, 100, 102, 104, 106, 111, 114, 119, 123, 124, 125, 127, 128, 130, 131, 132, 134, 161, 162, 163, 165, 168, 169, 170, 172, 174, 184, 185, 186, 196, 197, 201, 207, 244, 256, 259, 264, 269, 270, 271, 272, 276, 279, 280, 283, 284, 287, 288 1979 Hostess: 7, 52, 54, 57, 70, 72, 74 1979 Burger King Phillies: 9, 18, 19 1979 Burger King Yankees: 7, 8, 9, 13, 16, 17 1980 Burger King Phillies: 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 21 1980 Kelloggs: 1, 5, 26, 38, 47 1981 Kelloggs: 1, 5, 11, 12, 14, 15, 19, 26, 30, 31, 46, 50, 59, 60, 61 1981 Topps Scratch offs: Large group 1982 Coke Reds: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 1983 Kelloggs: 23, 26, 32, 33, 36, 42, 51, 58 1983 Donruss Hall of Fame Heroes: 1, 4, 7, 9, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 38, 39, 41, 42, checklist 1985 Drakes: 23, 26, 27, 30, 32 1985 Donruss All Star Pop up: Murphy, Whitaker, Ripken, Murray, Fisk, Nettles, Henderson, Kennedy, Hoyt, Rice, Garvey, Windfield, Gwynn, Morris, Strawberry 1986 Granola: 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 24 1987 Nestle: 4, 16, 29 Nick Covello ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:42:03 -0400 (EDT) To: wwesmyster2@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Bad news. . . Content-Language: en If you can get here for any time at all, we'll make sure you maximize it. Give me a call or shoot me a text if you get in town. In a message dated 7/29/2012 1:34:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wwesmyster2@aol.com writes: I terribly regret to inform all of you, I am unable to venture to Baltimore. I started a new job about a month ago, and due to lack of seniority unable to get the time off. If a miracle happens, I "might" be able to trek down for a night and half day, perhaps on wednesday or thursday, for sake of a thrill and showing my face. If that be the case, I"ll try to call someone. (937 area code) Sorry to all, but thanks. I am probably in the 5 youngest members, and will have more time when my boys get to high school. May God provide safe travels to all, and Good Luck! -Wes Shepard Sent from my LG phone ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:54:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: re: Stan Hack Steve: Terry Woods started the "Stan Hack" phrase for anonymous gifting. I don't remember any back story to it. Terry resigned from OBC several years ago, and I haven't heard from him in years. He lived in Longview Texas doesanybody have his phone number? ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:55:37 -0400 (EDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's in a name Content-Language: en Dear Henry, How can we forget you? You're the guy who carries all our wantlists in a briefcase. Also mixed up in there is usually some $400 card that you have to rumble through to find. Hope you have a safe trip here... In a message dated 7/29/2012 5:35:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mikesportsfan@aol.com writes: I joined OBC 12 years ago, just before the National in Cleveland. Showing up there, not knowing anyone, I would not have been surprised that people did not know my name, or called me by my last name. Now I know we have other Mike's, plus multiple Rich, Rick and Richard's, however, I would have thought folks in OBC would know my name by now. In the last week, I have received either thanks or e-mails from at least 3 OBCers who called me Rich Rick in their e-mails. 2 of the 3, have met me in person. I guess I am just such a "quiet unassuming guy", they got my name mixed up. I am not offended, just find in funny. I guess this i spayback for my always getting Mac & Spike mixed up the first 3 or 4 years I met tham at Nationals. I have always been bad at names myself, and with 150+ in the group, is easy enough to get names mixed up. Mike (maybe or maybe not) Rich ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 12:22:26 -0400 (EDT) To: srittenberg@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stan Hack collectors Content-Language: en Best I can remember, there was a "Stan Hack" on the prodigy message boards. Most of us figured it was Jim Montgomery or Trips. We leaned toward Jim Mont. Someone needs to find that guy and see what he's been up to. In a message dated 7/30/2012 8:14:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, srittenberg@gmail.com writes: Are there any collectors of Stan Hack cards & memorabilia? If not, I can send to Gino for his Cubs collection. Also, who started the concept of "Stan Hack" as a pseudonym for an anonymous gift? ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 02:23:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken" Subject: Retirement-Not From OBC Guys after 26 1/2 years (plus 12 months sick leave) tomorrow I'm retiring from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Just so happens the day after I retire the National starts, so guess where I will be. My wife has given me the month of August off but come September 1st I have to have a new job. Hopefully I will get time to return fire that is long past due. Hope to meet most of you at the National. Ken P. ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 20:31:41 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC ramblings , From: John Dahms Subject: 65 topps hi #'s hello all, wondered if anyone can forward me a copy of a bv listing for the 65 topps hi #'s my SCD stops at about 455 or so and I am trying to figure out an offer for most of the hi #'s. thanks for any of your help. John Dahms 3260 Kingsbrook Dr. #601 Jackson, MI ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 04:08:21 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "tjv815" Subject: A trip to Boston, Turning 40, and a new house There is a lot going on in the Valacak house. After 2 1/2 years on and offthe market, my wife and I finally sold our house. We will be closing on August 17th, but will not be in our new home until August 20th (assuming everything goes fine). I will update the directory with my new address as soon as we close everything out here on the 17th. I am also turning 40 in a few weeks! For the last few years, I have told mywife that all I want to do to celebrate is go out to Boston and sit on themonster. So, that's what we're doing. Although the trip will be brief due to having to be in Delaware for a family wedding on the 10th, my wife andI will be heading out to Boston on August 7th. We have a game to see thatnight, then will see the game on the 8th on top of the Monster! I can't wait. Although the trip will be brief, if any of the OBC Bostonians will beat either game, please let me know. So, we have a lot going on. In between our trip out to Boston and Delawarefrom the 7th to the 12th, we will be packing everything up. Again, happy hunting to all in Baltimore! ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:46:06 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Dealers Ok it's nearly 2 am as I sit here organizing myself for the National. I don't see JD on the list of dealers. To the best of anyone's knowledge will he be there? I'll be hotel bound tomorrow, hitting the game with Mac tomorrow night. Had my crab cakes today, so I won't need to eat for another couple of days. ================= To: , , Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:31:39 +0000 From: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] The Roster v 1.9 SHort List for ANthony Arbeeny My short list: 1952 bowmans: 1(berra),7, 17,23,30,37,65,105,107,145, 146, 151,160,164,168,169,175,177,196(musical), 204, 228,231, , 233, 238,240, 245 Any OPC cards for the 60's would like a call or test to the booth. ^% set is big on list Any Non sport cards in the 50-early seventies woul also like the booth # 1959 Mantle under $50 Follow us on: [Description: cid:image007.jpg@01CD6103.D7B5E270] [Description: cid:image008.jpg@01CD6103.D7B5E270] [Description: cid:image009.png@01CD6103.D7B5E270] [Description: cid:image010.jpg@01CD6103.D7B5E270] From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ChicoD1@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 3:07 PM To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Roster v 1.9 (Last before I leave) Cell Phone Tues/Fri Game Swap Session Days There La Quinta Inn Hyatt Baltimore Ramada Baltimore West Ramada Baltimore West Roadway Inn Mid Town Mt Vernon Hotel Red Roof Inn(airport) Red Roof Inn(airport) Red Roof Inn(airport) Mt Vernon Hotel Roadway Inn Mid Town Roadway Inn Mid Town Red Roof Inn(airport) Fairfield Inn & Suites Mt Vernon Hotel Cousin's House The information contained in this communication is confidential and intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please resend it to the sender and delete the original message and copy of it from your computer system. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to our official business should be understood as neither given nor endorsed by the company. ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:02:45 -0400 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report [2 Attachments] Interesting idea. I like the home plate logo better of those two, thanks to the additional background. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Joe Isaac wrote: > ** > [Attachment(s) <#138dab49915a724c_TopText> from Joe Isaac included below] > Hey everyone, > The AC has been tossing around some ideas for a new logo to replace the > old, outdated one on the home page. Attached are two versions that were > put together by Tom Housley (thanks Tom!) and the AC would like to ask for > group feedback. > You can send your comments to the Ramblings server or directly to the AC > or myself. > Remember, if you want the AC to consider any relevant topics, bring them > up to the Ramblings server. Your AC members are Glenn Codere, Tom Housley, > Ken Morganti, TJ Valacak, George Vrechek, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. > For those attending the National, have fun! Thanks, > Joe ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:15:59 -0500 To: cardclctor From: Nick Subject: Re: [OBC-National] Dealers I will arrive in Baltimore in a couple hours if anybody is looking to chew the fat, get a beverage, or just get out. I will only have the trains as transportation. Also, I am not familiar with the area. I will be at the radisson lord plaza just blocks from the convention center. Nick Pelletier Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:08 AM, "cardclctor" wrote: > I stopped by the Convention Center on my way over to the aquarium. Chris S. happened to be on the same train into town and Steve showed up as we waited for Chris to get his dealer badge. I also saw JD walk into the show. Heis listed with someone else, but he will be at the show. He couldn't tell me the exact table number though. It's in the 700's he thinks. > Ken M > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE smartphone. > From : ChicoD1@aol.com > Subject : [OBC-National] Dealers > Ok it's nearly 2 am as I sit here organizing myself for the National. I don't see JD on the list of dealers. To the best of anyone's knowledge will he be there? I'll be hotel bound tomorrow, hitting the game with Mac tomorrow night. Had my crab cakes today, so I won't need to eat for another couple of days. > Sal ================= To: , Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:36:29 -0400 From: Subject: Tradelist Hi Everyone: Here is an updated tradelist of small sets from Baseball, I have added a bunch of new cards, condition is all over the board. Please let me know whatyou could use. Nick Covello 1974 Pioneers of Baseball: 1, 13 1975 Hostess: 35, 49, 125 1976 Isaly=E2=99s Discs: Hunter, May, Luzinski, Tiant, Reggie, Madlock,Lynn, Rodgers, Seaver, Garvey, Yaz, Palmer, Torre, Aaron, Parker, Oliver, Medich, Frank Robinson, 1976 Hostess: 74, 75, 94, 121, 122, 127, 129 1977 Hostess: 1, 37, 38, 142, 144, 149 1979 Tcma 50=E2=99s: 2, 5, 6, 9, 14, 17, 19, 20, 21, 25, 26, 29, 30, 34,35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 44, 45, 53, 55, 57, 58, 59, 60, 64, 65, 67, 70, 73, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 90, 91, 96, 97, 100, 102, 104, 106, 111, 114, 119, 123, 124, 125, 127, 128, 130, 131, 132, 134, 139, 140, 141, 161, 162, 163, 165, 168, 169, 170, 172, 174, 184, 185, 186, 196, 197, 201, 207, 244, 256, 259, 264, 269, 270, 271, 272, 276, 279, 280, 283, 284, 287, 288 1979 Burger King Phillies: 7, 9, 18, 19 1979 Burger King Yankees: 5, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 1980 Burger King Phillies: 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 14, 21 1980 Kelloggs: 1, 2, 5, 6, 9, 20, 24, 26, 31, 32, 35, 38, 44, 47, 49, 52, 58, 1980 TCMA: 91, 92, 99, 100, 102, 103, 115, 117, 118, 126, 127, 129, 130, 132 1981 Kelloggs: 5, 11, 12, 14, 15, 19, 26, 30, 31, 46, 50, 59, 60, 61 1981 Coke Phillies: 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 1981 Topps Scratch offs: Large group 1981 Coke Reds: 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10 1982 Coke Reds: 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13 1983 Kelloggs: 23, 25, 26, 32, 33, 36, 42, 51, 58 1983 Glossy Send In=E2=99s: 1, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 19, 23, 30, 36, 37, 39 1983 Donruss Hall of Fame Heroes: 1, 4, 7, 9, 12, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 36, 38, 39, 41, 42, checklist 1984 Topps Traded: 1, 2, 7, 9, 12, 15, 16, 18, 24, 31, 33, 37, 46, 48, 52, 54, 57, 58, 62, 70, 77, 78, 84, 85, 86, 88, 94, 96, 97, 100, 108, 109, 114,118, 119, 120, 124, 131 1984 Topps All Stars: 3, 4, 15, 19, 20, 22 1985 Drakes: 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 23, 26, 27, 30, 32 1985 Glossy Send In=E2=99s: 38, 40 1985 Donruss All Star Pop up: Murphy, Whitaker, Ripken, Murray, Fisk, Nettles, Henderson, Kennedy, Hoyt, Rice, Garvey, Windfield, Gwynn, Morris, Strawberry 1985 Police Phillies Set 1-16 1986 Granola: 30 1986 Topps All Stars: 2, 10, 11, 12, 15, 22 1986 Glossy All Star Send in=E2=99s:15, 43, 44 1986 Fleer All Star: 4, 5, 6 1987 Nestle: 4, 16 1987 Glossy Send In=E2=99s: 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 12, 20, 49, 59 1987 Ralston: 2, 5, 9, 13 1988 Glossy Send In=E2=99s: 35, 41 1989 Fleer All Star:1, 2, 4, 7, 11, 12 1989 Topps Rookies: 14, 20 1989 King B Discs: 2, 7, 14, 17, 22, 24 1990 Swell Gum: 103, 104, 106, 120, 144 1992 Kelloggs: 6 2005 Topps Barry Bonds HR=E2=99s: 394, 423, 459, 477, 502, 510, 540, 601, 2005 Topps Inaugural lineup: jv, jg, bw, cg 2006 Topps Own the game: 24, 25 2006 Topps hobby masters: 15, 16 2010 Topps Cards mom threw away: 4, 22, 52, 59, 60, 82, 97, 109 ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:06:35 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "JamesM" Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report [2 Attachments] I too prefer the home plate version, but I also wouldn't be against a logo that is even a touch more reminiscent of the old logo (guess I'm resistant to change...) Perhaps my lack of imagination is holding me back, but might a basic frame (like the current logo has) complete the home plate logo? My 2 cents, and I hope that all travel safely who are hitting the National! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Glidden wrote: > Interesting idea. I like the home plate logo better of those two, thanks to > the additional background. > Spike > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Joe Isaac wrote: > > ** > > > > [Attachment(s) <#138dab49915a724c_TopText> from Joe Isaac included below] > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > The AC has been tossing around some ideas for a new logo to replace the > > old, outdated one on the home page. Attached are two versions that were > > put together by Tom Housley (thanks Tom!) and the AC would like to ask for > > group feedback. > > > > You can send your comments to the Ramblings server or directly to the AC > > or myself. > > > > Remember, if you want the AC to consider any relevant topics, bring them > > up to the Ramblings server. Your AC members are Glenn Codere, Tom Housley, > > Ken Morganti, TJ Valacak, George Vrechek, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. > > > > For those attending the National, have fun! Thanks, > > Joe > > > > > > ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:49:19 -0400 (EDT) To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report Content-Language: en I'm one of those who still doesn't like inter league play and the DH. I like our logo, but I guess it's time for a change. Of the 2, I like the home plate one better. In a message dated 7/31/2012 9:02:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glidden.matthew@gmail.com writes: Interesting idea. I like the home plate logo better of those two, thanks to the additional background. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Joe Isaac <_jwi62@hotmail.com_ (mailto:jwi62@hotmail.com) > wrote: [_Attachment(s)_ (mip://0acf7b98/default.html#138dab49915a724c_TopText) from Joe Isaac included below] Hey everyone, The AC has been tossing around some ideas for a new logo to replace the old, outdated one on the home page. Attached are two versions that were put together by Tom Housley (thanks Tom!) and the AC would like to ask for group feedback. You can send your comments to the Ramblings server or directly to the AC or myself. Remember, if you want the AC to consider any relevant topics, bring them up to the Ramblings server. Your AC members are Glenn Codere, Tom Housley, Ken Morganti, TJ Valacak, George Vrechek, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. For those attending the National, have fun! Thanks, ================= To: , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:07:41 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Identification at the national got a bit easier I did manage to get a quick order in for t-shirts...so for $6, national attendees can get one of these. Also, if you have a local guy attending the national, let me know so I can pass your shirt off to them. Let me know if you want to join the fun. In person hand-offs will be a priority now...but will talk about mailings after the show. ================= To: , "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:14:43 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-National] Identification at the national got a bit easier Not sure the pic came through...here is the pic as an attachment... To: obc-national@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:07:41 -0400 Subject: [OBC-National] Identification at the national got a bit easier I did manage to get a quick order in for t-shirts...so for $6, national attendees can get one of these. Also, if you have a local guy attending the national, let me know so I can pass your shirt off to them. Let me know if you want to join the fun. In person hand-offs will be a priority now...but will talk about mailings after the show. ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:44:50 -0700 (PDT) To: JamesM , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report I missed something tell me again why we need a new logo? ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:47:14 -0700 (PDT) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Short List - Long Shot I knowit is rather unlikely, however if anyoneruns acrossany of the 58 autographed cards I would be very interested in purchasing them. This was project that my son and I started in 1988 and despite the odds against, I would very much like to complete it. I am sure that the more time that passes themore difficult it will be, so there is a certain urgency at this point. Cost & condition are not major issues, I will gladly pay any reasonable price maybe even slightly unreasonable.Not sure how to work out payment details, perhaps if I had contact info for the dealer I could work it out. Any help is 1958 TOPPS TIGERS that I am seeking with autographs: #32-JW Porter,46-Lou Sleater, 154-Harry Byrd, 245-Frank Lary, 309-Gail 337-Hank Aguirre, 345-Jim Hegan, 365-Tom Morgan, 448-Charlie Lau, 463-Vito "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:36:25 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report [2 Attachments] From: Rick Lyons To: Joe Isaac Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] July report [2 Attachments] even though the baseball is beat up it gives me a modern feel. But I won't care enough about what you guys want to change it to or not change it. Second thought I'll quit if I don't like the logo. From: Joe Isaac To: OBC Annoucements Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 6:44 PM Subject: [OBC-Announcements] July report [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Joe Isaac included below] Hey everyone, The AC has been tossing around some ideas for a new logo to replace the old, outdated one on the home page. Attached are two versions that were put together by Tom Housley (thanks Tom!) and the AC would like to ask for group You can send your comments to the Ramblings server or directly to the AC ormyself. Remember, if you want the AC to consider any relevant topics, bring them upto the Ramblings server. Your AC members are Glenn Codere, Tom Housley, Ken Morganti, TJ Valacak, George Vrechek, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. For those attending the National, have fun! Thanks, ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:03:55 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman Subject: 1961 & 1962 ANYONE OUT THERE WORKING ON 61'S & 62'S? JOHN STORMAN ================= To: , Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:19:04 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 & 1962 Lots of us are. I believe there is a section on the OBC website - who's collecting what" that should give you some idea. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jstorman2001@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:03:55 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 & 1962 ANYONE OUT THERE WORKING ON 61'S & 62'S? JOHN STORMAN ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:10:00 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: My first National trip... ...by Kyleigh Morganti (part one) Hi everybody, I can't type or speak in full sentences yet, so Daddy is writing this for me. This is my first trip to a big card show, so Mommy packed all kinds of cute outfits for me to wear. But then again, I look cute in just about anything. Yesterday Daddy and I drove a long way to get here in Baltimore. Daddy says it took eight hours, but I don't really know how long that is and I slept most of the way anyway. You'll just have to take his word on that I guess. We checked into the room and I had a blast walking around on top of the bed near the edge, which makes Daddy really nervous that I'll fall off and get a boo-boo. I think it's hilarious though. After unpacking all of Daddy's clothes and silly cards (plus some of my toys that I hardly ever play with), we went to the supermarket to pick up some of my favorites: juice and chips, along with a ton of other snacks that Daddy says aren't good for me, but what do I care? I'm only one. Despite getting all kinds of sleep today, I nodded off while Daddy was playing on the computer. The next day, Daddy gave me a nutritious Pop-tart for breakfast and took me to the train station. When we got off in the big city, Daddy saw one of his OBC friends - Chris. He happened to get on the same train from the airport stop just before ours. we walked over to this HUGE convention center, where Chris went to go pick up a dealer badge (that's what Daddy said anyway) and while we were waiting around, another of Daddy's friends showed up - Steve. Me and Daddy didn't stay around and talk too long though. We were on our way to the National Aquarium. I got to see all kinds of big fishies and some sharks. I took my nap right after the dolphin show, but I don't think I missed too much. Daddy was probably on the phone talking to Mommy for awhile I think. After the aquarium, we walked around the Inner Harbor a little bit and decided to head back to the hotel. Chris came back to the room a little while later. After Daddy and Chris caught up a bit, Steve stopped by and we all went over to the Quizno's next door. Daddy ate a big sandwich, which he tried to share with me and he gave me some chips, which I threw on the floor for the most part, since there weren't any chips on the floor when we arrived. There's needs to be food or napkins or some kind of trash on the floor wherever you go, right? After we ate, we went back to the hotel. Chris fell asleep while Daddy and Steve did a little catching up. Steve left a little while later and I finally decided I'd hit the hay myself. Daddy says it's a big day tomorrow, so I'm gonna need some sleep. Something about the first day of the big card show... :::YAWN::: who cares? When do I get to break stuff? ================= To: , Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:15:20 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] My first National trip... It would appear that some Morganti-esque features have rubbed off on the little one..........very soon there will be a wizard hat to try on, and quite possibly an even brighter future than that, if you can imagine such a From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cardclctor@aol.com Sent: July-31-12 7:10 PM To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: redsoxmom09@aol.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My first National trip... ...by Kyleigh Morganti (part one) Hi everybody, I can't type or speak in full sentences yet, so Daddy is writing this for me. This is my first trip to a big card show, so Mommy packed all kinds of cute outfits for me to wear. But then again, I look cute in just about anything. Yesterday Daddy and I drove a long way to get here in Baltimore. Daddy says it took eight hours, but I don't really know how long that is and I slept most of the way anyway. You'll just have to take his word on that I guess. We checked into the room and I had a blast walking around on top of the bed near the edge, which makes Daddy really nervous that I'll fall off and get a boo-boo. I think it's hilarious though. After unpacking all of Daddy's clothes and silly cards (plus some of my toys that I hardly ever play with), we went to the supermarket to pick up some of my favorites: juice and chips, along with a ton of other snacks that Daddy says aren't good for me, but what do I care? I'm only one. Despite getting all kinds of sleep today, I nodded off while Daddy was playing on the computer. The next day, Daddy gave me a nutritious Pop-tart for breakfast and took me to the train station. When we got off in the big city, Daddy saw one of his OBC friends - Chris. He happened to get on the same train from the airport stop just before ours. we walked over to this HUGE convention center, where Chris went to go pick up a dealer badge (that's what Daddy said anyway) and while we were waiting around, another of Daddy's friends showed up - Steve. Me and Daddy didn't stay around and talk too long though. We were on our way to the National Aquarium. I got to see all kinds of big fishies and some sharks. I took my nap right after the dolphin show, but I don't think I missed too much. Daddy was probably on the phone talking to Mommy for awhile I think. After the aquarium, we walked around the Inner Harbor a little bit and decided to head back to the hotel. Chris came back to the room a little while later. After Daddy and Chris caught up a bit, Steve stopped by and we all went over to the Quizno's next door. Daddy ate a big sandwich, which he tried to share with me and he gave me some chips, which I threw on the floor for the most part, since there weren't any chips on the floor when we arrived. There's needs to be food or napkins or some kind of trash on the floor wherever you go, right? After we ate, we went back to the hotel. Chris fell asleep while Daddy and Steve did a little catching up. Steve left a little while later and I finally decided I'd hit the hay myself. Daddy says it's a big day tomorrow, so I'm gonna need some sleep. Something about the first day of the big card show... :::YAWN::: who cares? When do I get to break stuff? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5168 - Release Date: 07/31/12