================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:05:22 -0500 (EST) From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: Re: NCAA Pool - final reminder Happy New Year! My collecting goals are to 1) stay active and enjoy collecting and OBC 2) finish the 72-3 OPC hockey (3 left) 3) take the 1955 Topps down to the big 2 4) now for the hard part, add a Famita T222 fatima track & field athlete tothe colletion. Also looking for the Hart N344 pedestrian, a very rare 19thcentery card of an African American athlete but I will save the imposible for next year! p.s. I have a couple post-1980 Aarons, to find a home for, could someone send me instructions on how to post these as availables for the post-1980 list? ================= Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:58:24 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rick Lyons Subject: 53 topps back variation I thought I looked to see what numbers had the white/black var. before I came to arizona and beckett had 86-165? Was looking at some wantlists and some of you have lower numbers listed. Does the variation go from 1-165 or 86-165 or something different. thanks Rick ================= To: , Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:57:33 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 53 topps back variation My understanding is that there are white bio variations on #86-165 plus #s 10, 44, 61, 72 and 81. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:58:24 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 53 topps back variation I thought I looked to see what numbers had the white/black var. before I came to arizona and beckett had 86-165? Was looking at some wantlists and some of you have lower numbers listed. Does the variation go from 1-165 or 86-165 or something different. thanks Rick ================= To: brightair@msn.com, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 13:34:52 -0500 (EST) From: FIREMAN Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 53 topps back variation You guys are all INSANE with these Variations....HA HA HA...just kidding I love reading about you guys collecting and going crazy for the variations...I was never a variation guy myself, but my Dad kind of screwed me on that....one day he went to a card show and bought me a handful of 56 topps he was so excited to give them to me, and my rule in collecting is no matter what condition the cards are in if My dad, wife or sons bought me the cards they go in my set and nothing replaces them......well dad bought me a hand full of duplicates but when i went to put them in my set and remove the doubles each card was the opposite variation...if dad got me a white back the one in the set was gray back and vice versa.....i think all but one wasthe same....so i kept both cards in my set, and now i secretly collect variations on the 56 topps,( and dam it will I get the Mantle gray back?) I guess you can call me a closet variation collector...well i guess i am out of the closet now...HA HA well I hope you enjoyed my little ramble..... and ENJOY your 2012 Happy New Years -----Original Message----- From: richard dingman To: rick.lyons22 ; obc-ramblings Sent: Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:57 am Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 53 topps back variation My understanding is that there are white bio variations on #86-165 plus #s 10, 44, 61, 72 and 81. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:58:24 -0800 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 53 topps back variation I thought I looked to see what numbers had the white/black var. before I came to arizona and beckett had 86-165? Was looking at some wantlists and some of you have lower numbers listed. Does the variation go from 1-165 or 86-165 or something different. thanks Rick ================= Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 18:37:50 +0000 (UTC) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Geordie Calvert Subject: Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Of course, this list is a bit subjective, but what list isn't. Goal: in blocks of 10, name the top 1000 players of all time. You'll quickly get the hang of it. I got 53/100 - sat there with a blank expression for long periods of time! http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball ================= To: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:05:31 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--call for items Many of you have expressed a desire to make some type of contribution in Ryan's memory. As we have done in the past, we will be holding a charity auction to raise funds. The OBCAC is now deciding the recipient of the effort, but it will likely be a direct contribution to Ryan's family or a donation to the charity named in his obituary--the American Diabetes Association. The procedures are simple. If you have an item to donate, please send me adescription of the item, along with a starting price. I will gather descriptions for a week, then start the auction next Sunday. The auction will close the following Sunday (jan 15th). The winners will send payment to theobc treasurer, those donating the items will send the items directly to the winner, and the treasurer will then make the contribution on behalf of OBC. We're still working on some of the details, so feel free to ask questions or ask for clarifications. Otherwise, get those item descriptions to me. Mac Wubben on behalf of the OBCAC ================= Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 13:24:59 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Non-obcer with extra 80/81 football Happy New Year to all! I've been talking with a local guy, Tom Coleman, about joining OBC for a couple of years. He's not ready yet but he asked me today if anyone needs 1980 or 1981 football. Please contact him at v_colema@bellsouth.net Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:07:43 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "B-999" Subject: 2012 Since I just finished my 2010 goals thanks to OBC Santa Ed Pike we'll skip 2011 and move on! 1) Make it to Baltimore for the National 2) Finish my 1977 set (73 to go) 3) Knock off the remaining '54 Topps that aren't stars: 056(Miranda) 062(E.Robinson) 063(Pesky)130(Bauer) 156(Coleman)225(Liddle) 249(Mizell) 4) Get started on a 1978 and 1976 set. 5) Hit every OBC'er with an active list. 6) Finish my '71 and '72 Topps Football sets (mostly stars) 7) Get one more vintage Pete Reiser hit Great idea to post these! Brian Betza ================= To: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 16:06:55 -0500 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Trading Mistakes I've Made Hi All!! I thought that I would talk about mistakes I made last year. I'm pretty keen on trading and contacted a lot of collectors in this group and other trading groups about trades. It turned out to be far too many, as I found myself far behind in getting cards out. I'm sure that many of you have noticed this. At any rate I plan to avoid this mistake this year by not contacting as many people at the same time. I hope that everyobne stays well this year has a great trading year. Thanks for listening to me run on. Gord Ellis ================= Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 15:18:14 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Re: Non-obcer with extra 80/81 football All - the address I listed is wrong. The correct address is On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Steve Rittenberg wrote: > Happy New Year to all! I've been talking with a local guy, Tom > Coleman, about joining OBC for a couple of years. He's not ready yet > but he asked me today if anyone needs 1980 or 1981 football. Please > contact him at v_colema@bellsouth.net > Thanks! > Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:26:38 -0500 To: Geordie Calvert From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Ouch, only 49/100! Blanked on so many quality guys from the golden era. :-) On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Geordie Calvert wrote: > ** > Of course, this list is a bit subjective, but what list isn't. > Goal: in blocks of 10, name the top 1000 players of all time. You'll > quickly get the hang of it. > I got 53/100 - sat there with a blank expression for long periods of time! > > http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball > Geordie ================= To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com, dodgergeo@comcast.net Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:06:36 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time 54...not bad but not great. Darn. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden To: Geordie Calvert Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:26 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Ouch, only 49/100! Blanked on so many quality guys from the golden era. :-) On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Geordie Calvert wrote: Of course, this list is a bit subjective, but what list isn't. Goal: in blocks of 10, name the top 1000 players of all time. You'll quickly get the hang of it. I got 53/100 - sat there with a blank expression for long periods of time! http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball ================= To: "'Joshua Levine'" , Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:27:45 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time 55 That was tough! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Levine Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:07 AM To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com; dodgergeo@comcast.net Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time 54...not bad but not great. Darn. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden To: Geordie Calvert Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:26 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Ouch, only 49/100! Blanked on so many quality guys from the golden era. :-) On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Geordie Calvert Of course, this list is a bit subjective, but what list isn't. Goal: in blocks of 10, name the top 1000 players of all time. You'll quickly get the hang of it. I got 53/100 - sat there with a blank expression for long periods of time! http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4718 - Release Date: 01/02/12 ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:36:14 -0500 (EST) To: obcbobd@gmail.com, Wite3@aol.com, glidden.matthew@gmail.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Content-Language: en 38, very tough, humbling In a message dated 1/2/2012 11:28:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, obcbobd@gmail.com writes: 55 That was tough! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joshua Levine Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:07 AM To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com; dodgergeo@comcast.net Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time 54...not bad but not great. Darn. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Glidden To: Geordie Calvert Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:26 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Ouch, only 49/100! Blanked on so many quality guys from the golden era. On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Geordie Calvert <_dodgergeo@comcast.net_ (mailto:dodgergeo@comcast.net) > wrote: Of course, this list is a bit subjective, but what list isn't. Goal: in blocks of 10, name the top 1000 players of all time. You'll quickly get the hang of it. I got 53/100 - sat there with a blank expression for long periods of time! _http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball_ (http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball) No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4718 - Release Date: 01/02/12 ================= To: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:39:16 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time I was amazed at the people who made it. My hom'er hrbek was around 150 ...even Greg Gagne made the list. To: dodgergeo@comcast.net CC: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glidden.matthew@gmail.com Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:26:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Ouch, only 49/100! Blanked on so many quality guys from the golden era. On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Geordie Calvert wrote: Of course, this list is a bit subjective, but what list isn't. Goal: in blocks of 10, name the top 1000 players of all time. You'll quickly get the hang of it. I got 53/100 - sat there with a blank expression for long periods of time! http://www.sporcle.com/games/nrsilver/1000baseball ================= To: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:04:19 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Looking for input on set collecting I'm working on an article for SCD about collecting sports sets. This group is all about set collecting. I've reached out to a few OBCers to get their input. I'm looking for any additional feedback on the general premise I Collectors start with baseball sets from their youth and work somewhat forward in years, but mostly backward in time as their interests and budgets permit. Collectors expand from Topps and Bowman into other national sets and some regional sets of interest. After getting well into baseball sets, collectors will collect, in order, football, basketball, and hockey sets in the same systematic yearly sequence. Boxing, golf, and non-sports round out the cardboard quest. Of course, these are broad generalization and each of us developed our collecting interests in whatever manner (logical or illogical) that they chose. Nonetheless, let me know if you agree or disagree with the above observations and any comments you might have. Also I created a fancy spreadsheet showing cards available on eBay by year. Let me know, if you want a copy. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:45:38 -0500 (EST) To: dodgergeo@comcast.net From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Hey Geordie thanks for sending that. I tried it yesterday. That was frustrating. I guess I did pretty good. I got 68. I think years of playing the stratomatic oldtimers teams is what got me through it. And since you sent it, it reminded me to put in Brett Butler. R Welk ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:50:30 -0500 (EST) From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time I was amazed, my score 40 John Leroux -----Original Message----- From: rjsfgmv To: dodgergeo Cc: obc-ramblings Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 11:45 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time Hey Geordie thanks for sending that. I tried it yesterday. That was frustrating. I guess I did pretty good. I got 68. I think years of playing the stratomatic oldtimers teams is what got me through it. And since you sent it, it reminded me to put in Brett Butler. R Welk ================= Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:34:08 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--call for items Thanks Mac. I haven't been active lately, but I am certainly in for this. I look forward to helping out in one way or another. And maybe using thistime, like many do at times of loss, to reconnect with old friends a little bit. I miss my OBC buddies. Ryan and I weren't "close," but we talked several times over the years. I was going to stop by his place once when driving from Georgia to Illinois, but he was not available... so I never met him personally. Here's his picture from Google plus. Thought you guys would like to see him: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jcguUWHH5Jo/TXvI0wf1kuI/AAAAAAAAAfE/4n7nmx94eVQ/s360-c-k/ph.jpg ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:47:40 -0500 To: "rjsfgmv@aol.com" From: Edward watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Quiz: top 1000 players of all time I got 57. A bunch of fun, but it was really hard to think of guys in the 500-1000 Sent from my iPad On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, rjsfgmv@aol.com wrote: > Hey Geordie > thanks for sending that. I tried it yesterday. That was frustrating. Iguess I did pretty good. I got 68. > I think years of playing the stratomatic oldtimers teams is what got me through it. And since you sent it, it reminded me to put in Brett Butler. > R Welk ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:03:59 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: 2012 COLLECTING GOALS Well, my 2011 goals were unrealistic. hi number cards should have been considered better. I had 16 goals and accomplished 5 of them. my 2012 goals..... 1 Have 200 cards from 1952-56 2 Have 100 cards from 1957 3 Have 100 cards from 1958 4 Have 150 cards from 1959 5 Have 200 cards from 1960 6 Have 200 cards from 1961 7 Have 200 cards from 1962 8 Have 200 cards from 1963 9 Have 250 cards from 1964 10 Need only 300 from 1965 11 Need only 250 from 1966 67 68 72 12 Need only 200 from 1969 71 13 Need only 150 from 1970 14 Need only 50 from 1973 15 Complete 2 sets of 74 75 76 16 get 2 cards from sets I have nothing from 17 Win something in the super bowl pool when the 49ers win the super bowl Randy Welk ================= To: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:31:05 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: 2012 COLLECTING GOALS Well, for a few years now my activity has centered around OPC, t207's, t202's, P2's...with Cracker Jacks and T3 Turkey Reds really getting going this year. I'm getting close on a bunch of OPC issues, so think this is the last year that I will really chase them. Get going on the type set. I talk about this all the time...if anybody is interested, I'll see if I can get moving on this. I think it would be a lot more fun if we had a group that worked on it together. Finish 65 OPC (18 to go) Finish 66 OPC (18 to go) Finish 67 OPC (9 to go) Finish 68 OPC (34 to go) Finish 70 OPC (21 to go) Find 10 71 OPC high numbers Get at least half of the 74 OPCs I need (50 to go) Finish 76 OPC (29 to go) Find 1 card from the top 6 list Finish the t202's...down to one card :-( Get 6 hits to the t207 list (26 to go) Get 8 hits to the T3 list (28 to go) Get 24 hits to the P2 list (98 to go) Get 18 hits to the CJ list (69 to go) Find either the 38 Goudey Feller or Dimaggio that I need ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 11:51:33 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: NCAA Grid Fellas -- Here's the picks for the football games! If the Badgers win, we're all down a game.... Good luck! Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia K State No Illinois Ark State No Illinois Ark State No Illinois Ark State Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:44:57 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: NCAA Grid, Day 1 Fellas -- What a Rose Bowl! I would have liked to see the Badgers get that last play back, but still a great game. We all made it through Day 1, but we will have at least one person eliminated after the Sugar Bowl tomorrow. Take Care, Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia K State No Illinois Ark State No Illinois Ark State No Illinois Ark State Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 01:51:05 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC , Geno From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] NCAA Grid, Day 1 Guys I worked pretty hard on getting those two wins...6 hours of serious couch potatoe action!
Once Clemson's porous defense shows their true colors, It could mean the familytoad turns into the luckytoad.
Thanks for setting this up, it motivated me to do Nothing today ;)
OBC Forever
Brian

Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:44:29 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS Hey Mac- I have been thinking of starting a type card set, so count me in. John Stamperhttp://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Mon, 1/2/12, Mac Wubben wrote: From: Mac Wubben Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 11:31 AM Well, for a few years now my activity has centered around OPC, t207's, t202's, P2's...with Cracker Jacks and T3 Turkey Reds really getting going this year. I'm getting close on a bunch of OPC issues, so think this is the last year that I will really chase them. Get going on the type set. I talk about this all the time...if anybody is interested, I'll see if I can get moving on this. I think it would be a lot more fun if we had a group that worked on it together. Finish 65 OPC (18 to go) Finish 66 OPC (18 to go) Finish 67 OPC (9 to go) Finish 68 OPC (34 to go) Finish 70 OPC (21 to go) Find 10 71 OPC high numbers Get at least half of the 74 OPCs I need (50 to go) Finish 76 OPC (29 to go) Find 1 card from the top 6 list Finish the t202's...down to one card :-( Get 6 hits to the t207 list (26 to go) Get 8 hits to the T3 list (28 to go) Get 24 hits to the P2 list (98 to go) Get 18 hits to the CJ list (69 to go) Find either the 38 Goudey Feller or Dimaggio that I need ================= To: OBC Ramblings , mac wubben Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 00:14:27 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS I'd be interested as well. I believe Erik Greenwood, Bob Bannon, and Spikeare already do it. Probably some others as well. -Bob Reed To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obcmac@hotmail.com From: holidayandhobbies@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:44:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS Hey Mac- I have been thinking of starting a type card set, so count me in. John Stamperhttp://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Mon, 1/2/12, Mac Wubben wrote: From: Mac Wubben Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 11:31 AM Well, for a few years now my activity has centered around OPC, t207's, t202's, P2's...with Cracker Jacks and T3 Turkey Reds really getting going this year. I'm getting close on a bunch of OPC issues, so think this is the last year that I will really chase them. Get going on the type set. I talk about this all the time...if anybody is interested, I'll see if I can get moving on this. I think it would be a lot more fun if we had a group that worked on it together. Finish 65 OPC (18 to go) Finish 66 OPC (18 to go) Finish 67 OPC (9 to go) Finish 68 OPC (34 to go) Finish 70 OPC (21 to go) Find 10 71 OPC high numbers Get at least half of the 74 OPCs I need (50 to go) Finish 76 OPC (29 to go) Find 1 card from the top 6 list Finish the t202's...down to one card :-( Get 6 hits to the t207 list (26 to go) Get 8 hits to the T3 list (28 to go) Get 24 hits to the P2 list (98 to go) Get 18 hits to the CJ list (69 to go) Find either the 38 Goudey Feller or Dimaggio that I need ================= To: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:03:33 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Type cards Hello Mac, I'm interested in type cards as well. I got into type card collecting maybe 25 years ago and then lost steam as the number of current sets exploded and the older sets got pricier. Challenges so far have been: converting my old typecard have and wantlists into a usable format, finding cards from obscure old sets, finding them at affordable prices, having duplicates for other collectors, finding other collectors who will take the time to wade through long, obscure lists. Maybe something like a version of our "who collects what set" would help make it easier to see who needs what and who has any dups to exchange. I enjoyed collecting "current" types for awhile maybe up through 1988 before throwing in the towel. George Vrechek ================= To: "'Mac Wubben'" , Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 10:11:42 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS I've a type card collection in a separate binder covering pre-1980. Don't have a real good checklist though. Perhaps a good new years resolution would be to better organize it! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mac Wubben Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:31 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 2012 COLLECTING GOALS Well, for a few years now my activity has centered around OPC, t207's, t202's, P2's...with Cracker Jacks and T3 Turkey Reds really getting going this year. I'm getting close on a bunch of OPC issues, so think this is the last year that I will really chase them. Get going on the type set. I talk about this all the time...if anybody is interested, I'll see if I can get moving on this. I think it would be a lot more fun if we had a group that worked on it together. Finish 65 OPC (18 to go) Finish 66 OPC (18 to go) Finish 67 OPC (9 to go) Finish 68 OPC (34 to go) Finish 70 OPC (21 to go) Find 10 71 OPC high numbers Get at least half of the 74 OPCs I need (50 to go) Finish 76 OPC (29 to go) Find 1 card from the top 6 list Finish the t202's...down to one card :-( Get 6 hits to the t207 list (26 to go) Get 8 hits to the T3 list (28 to go) Get 24 hits to the P2 list (98 to go) Get 18 hits to the CJ list (69 to go) Find either the 38 Goudey Feller or Dimaggio that I need No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4718 - Release Date: 01/02/12 ================= To: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:48:36 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Goodwin Goldfaden I just learned from Goodie Goldfaden's great nephew that Goodie passed away Sunday night at age 97. Goodie was a pioneer publication and card dealer that was in the business for over 80 years. He had the first west coast hobby shop, sold his huge inventory of publications, had contacts all over the world, attended the first collector conventions, and was straightforward and efficient. I mention him in several articles that are on our library page "Meet Goodwin Goldfaden" and "Hobby Publications from the 1970s". Thinking of him brings a smile to my face. I only got to met him once a few years ago but talked to him several times by phone. I'll be advising SCD of Goodie's death and sending them some info to use. If any of you knew Goodie and want to share any thoughts, please let me know. Goodie is survived by his wife, Frieda. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 08:47:27 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rick Lyons Subject: pepper martin card Scan might not of worked good but can anyone tell me what it is. I picked this up a few days ago and was going to wait till I get home to identify but it's killing me to know. thanks Rick ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 09:08:23 -0800 (PST) To: Rick Lyons , From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card [1 Attachment] back of card didn't work very well. the back has his bio. in the middle andtop and bottom have part of a board game? it says double-foul like the 68 topps game cards From: Rick Lyons To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Lyons included below] Scan might not of worked good but can anyone tell me what it is. I picked this up a few days ago and was going to wait till I get home to identify butit's killing me to know. thanks Rick ================= To: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:27:29 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: OBC Xmas Card Exchange Followup PLEASE READ!!! I've received an unsettling amount of emails from people who 1) Never received anything or 2) haven't seen a thanks posted for what they sent. I'd like to think that everybody who signed up received a package on Xmas day, but that does not seem to be the case. Could everybody please do the 1) If you haven't already, please send a thanks to the thanks server for your package (I really shouldn't have to remind anyone to do this but.) 2) Check that your victim has sent out a thanks. If not, please contact your victim to see if they just forgot or the package was lost in the mail. You may filter messages through me if you wish to keep your anonymity towards your victim. Thanks and Happy New Year ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:23:24 -0800 (PST) To: Rick Lyons , From: Chris Stufflestreet Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card [1 Attachment] That is definitely a 1936 Goudey card. I love that set. Check out my Blogs: 1970s Music Mayhem - http://70smusicmayhem.blogspot.com/ Vintage Sportscards - http://thevintagesportscards.blogspot.com/ 1973 Topps Set - http://1973toppsphotography.blogspot.com/ From: Rick Lyons To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Rick Lyons included below] Scan might not of worked good but can anyone tell me what it is. I picked this up a few days ago and was going to wait till I get home to identify butit's killing me to know. thanks Rick ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:56:19 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Goodwin Goldfaden Sad news...Goodie was a pioneer and helped me a few times. I met him once about 20 years ago too...Amazing publication collection too. -----Original Message----- From: George and Susan Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 7:48 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Goodwin Goldfaden I just learned from Goodie Goldfaden=E2=99s great nephew that Goodie passed away Sunday night at age 97. Goodie was a pioneer publication and card dealer that was in the business for over 80 years. He had the first west coast hobby shop, sold his huge inventory of publications, had contacts all over the world, attended the first collector conventions, and was straightforward and efficient. I mention him in several articles that are on our library page =E2=9CMeet Goodwin Goldfaden=E2=9D and =E2=9CHobby Publications from the 1970s=E2=9D. Thinking of him brings a smile to my face. I only got to met him once a few years ago but talked to him several times by I=E2=99ll be advising SCD of Goodie=E2=99s death and sending them some info to use. If any of you knew Goodie and want to share any thoughts, please let me know. Goodie is survived by his wife, Frieda. George Vrechek ================= To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:02:56 -0500 (EST) From: Joshua Levine Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card Yep...1936 Goudey. Neat cards. -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1 To: rick.lyons22 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 9:47 am Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card Looks like a 1936 Goudey to me. On 01/03/12, Rick Lyons wrote: back of card didn't work very well. the back has his bio. in the middle andtop and bottom have part of a board game? it says double-foul like the 68 topps game cards From: Rick Lyons To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card [1 Attachment] Scan might not of worked good but can anyone tell me what it is. I picked this up a few days ago and was going to wait till I get home to identify butit's killing me to know. thanks Rick ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 20:52:38 +0000 (UTC) To: George and Susan Vrechek From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Hi Mac, I've followed the Mike Rich rules of collecting and have many sets I am collecting because I have more than 2 or more cards from theset. On the other hand I find myself an "undeclared" type card collector as I have many single cards from various sets. I would have to agree with George and find that the challenges he has with committing to this faction of collecting are the same that keep me from that commitment. With a finite budget for my hobby I find it difficult to chase obscure pre-war issues that are usually way out of my price range. I would beinterested in the idea of pooling resources to address some of these challenges and make the pursuit of type cards more practical. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "George and Susan Vrechek" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Mac Wubben" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:03:33 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Hello Mac, I=E2=99m interested in type cards as well. I got into type card collecting maybe 25 years ago and then lost steam as the number of current sets exploded and the older sets got pricier. Challenges so far have been: converting my old typecard have and wantlists into a usable format, finding cards from obscure old sets, finding them at affordable prices, having duplicates for other collectors, finding other collectors who will take the time to wade through long, obscure lists. Maybe something like a version of our =E2=9Cwho collects what set=E2=9D would help make it easier to see who needs what and who has any dups to exchange. I enjoyed collecting =E2=9Ccurrent=E2=9D types for awhile maybe up through 1988 before throwing in the George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:58:41 -0500 (EST) To: talbot1@comcast.net, vrechek@ameritech.net From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Content-Language: en I started my Type Card set about 12 years ago and while I haven't been in a position to do much of any moving forward for the last couple my TC set remains my favorite accomplishment within cardboard. I agree with George that the newer releases made it impossible to chase so I stop at 1980. That still leaves over 3500 issues to try and run down if you assume most configurations. I think a TC roving collection or something like it would be terrific. I would also be happy to volunteer my time toward something like that. Happy 2012 to all, Bob Bannon In a message dated 1/3/2012 3:52:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, talbot1@comcast.net writes: Hi Mac, I've followed the Mike Rich rules of collecting and have many sets I am collecting because I have more than 2 or more cards from the set. On the other hand I find myself an "undeclared" type card collector as I have many single cards from various sets. I would have to agree with George and find that the challenges he has with committing to this faction of collecting are the same that keep me from that commitment. With a finite budget for my hobby I find it difficult to chase obscure pre-war issues that are usually way out of my price range. I would be interested in the idea of pooling resources to address some of these challenges and make the pursuit of type cards more practical. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS------------- MARK From: "George and Susan Vrechek" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Mac Wubben" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:03:33 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Hello Mac, I=E2=99m interested in type cards as well. I got into type card collecting maybe 25 years ago and then lost steam as the number of current sets exploded and the older sets got pricier. Challenges so far have been: converting my old typecard have and wantlists into a usable format, finding cards from obscure old sets, finding them at affordable prices, having duplicates for other collectors, finding other collectors who will take the time to wade through long, obscure lists. Maybe something like a version of our =E2=9Cwho collects what set=E2=9D would help make it easier to see who needs what and who has any dups to exchange. I enjoyed collecting =E2=9Ccurrent=E2=9D types for awhile up through 1988 before throwing in the towel. George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:30:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "zackenback23" Subject: Re: Type cards I've had thoughts of starting a type collection for awhile now, but always put it off as I never know where to start. Do I pull one of each set from my dupes box and start from there? Do I chase stars where possible? Maybego for a better condition cards from each set? Detroit Tigers only? Maybe follow Spike's lead with the numbers collection=85. This thread has me again interested in the idea. Maybe we can create a master type set where everyone selects a type of card to work on in the sub-set specialty area =96 Gum, Tobacco, Food, etc, and expand it across all sports (and non-sports), to see what kind of OBC master type-set we could develop. I've worked hockey cards pretty hard in the past and have thought about starting a type set for those as well, or maybe Rugby cards??? But I digress=85 Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, biggies@... wrote: > Gents, > I started my Type Card set about 12 years ago and while I haven't been ina > position to do much of any moving forward for the last couple my TC set > remains my favorite accomplishment within cardboard. > I agree with George that the newer releases made it impossible to chase so > I stop at 1980. That still leaves over 3500 issues to try and run down if > you assume most configurations. > I think a TC roving collection or something like it would be terrific. > I would also be happy to volunteer my time toward something like that. > Happy 2012 to all, Bob Bannon > In a message dated 1/3/2012 3:52:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > talbot1@... writes: > Hi Mac, > I've followed the Mike Rich rules of collecting and have many sets I am > collecting because I have more than 2 or more cards from the set. On the > other hand I find myself an "undeclared" type card collector as I have many > single cards from various sets. I would have to agree with George and find > that the challenges he has with committing to this faction of collectingare > the same that keep me from that commitment. With a finite budget for my > hobby I find it difficult to chase obscure pre-war issues that are usually > way out of my price range. I would be interested in the idea of pooling > resources to address some of these challenges and make the pursuit of type > cards more practical. BE WELL!!!! > REGARDS------------- MARK > ____________________________________ > From: "George and Susan Vrechek" > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Cc: "Mac Wubben" > Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:03:33 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards > Hello Mac, > I=E2=99m interested in type cards as well. I got into type card collecting > maybe 25 years ago and then lost steam as the number of current sets exploded > and the older sets got pricier. Challenges so far have been: converting my > old typecard have and wantlists into a usable format, finding cards from > obscure old sets, finding them at affordable prices, having duplicates for > other collectors, finding other collectors who will take the time to wade > through long, obscure lists. Maybe something like a version of our =E2=9Cwho > collects what set=E2=9D would help make it easier to see who needs what and who has any > dups to exchange. I enjoyed collecting =E2=9Ccurrent=E2=9D types for awhile maybe > up through 1988 before throwing in the towel. > George Vrechek ================= To: , Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:02:31 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Mark, George: I took the plunge into types particularly because of the resource issue. I have a very limited budget and when sets get down to Mantle, etc., the hitsare few and far between. I have resigned myself to the fact that I will not get =E2=9Call=E2=9D types. I personally have defined my scope as 2,000 different =E2=9Ccards=E2=9D (essentially flats) between 1869 and1989. I allow my type collection to intersect with my HOF=E2=99er and player collections. I can still find hits to my type collection for 25=A2. Erik Greenwood From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of talbot1@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:53 PM To: George and Susan Vrechek Cc: Mac Wubben; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Hi Mac, I've followed the Mike Rich rules of collecting and have many sets I am collecting because I have more than 2 or more cards from the set. On the other hand I find myself an "undeclared" type card collector as I have many single cards from various sets. I would have to agree with George and findthat the challenges he has with committing to this faction of collecting are the same that keep me from that commitment. With a finite budget for myhobby I find it difficult to chase obscure pre-war issues that are usuallyway out of my price range. I would be interested in the idea of pooling resources to address some of these challenges and make the pursuit of type cards more practical. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS------------- MARK From: "George and Susan Vrechek" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: "Mac Wubben" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:03:33 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Type cards Hello Mac, I=E2=99m interested in type cards as well. I got into type card collecting maybe 25 years ago and then lost steam as the number of current sets exploded and the older sets got pricier. Challenges so far have been: converting my old typecard have and wantlists into a usable format, finding cards from obscure old sets, finding them at affordable prices, having duplicates for other collectors, finding other collectors who will take the time to wade through long, obscure lists. Maybe something like a version of our =E2=9Cwho collects what set=E2=9D would help make it easier to see who needs what and who has any dups to exchange. I enjoyed collecting =E2=9Ccurrent=E2=9D types for awhile maybe up through 1988 before throwing in the George Vrechek ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 16:26:25 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card thanks to everyone who responded From: Joshua Levine To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card Yep...1936 Goudey. Neat cards. -----Original Message----- From: hoot_owl1 To: rick.lyons22 ; OBC-Ramblings Sent: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 9:47 am Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card Looks like a 1936Goudey to me. On 01/03/12, Rick Lyons wrote: back of card didn't work very well. the back has his bio. in the middle andtop and bottom have part of a board game? it says double-foul like the 68 topps game cards From: Rick Lyons To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] pepper martin card [1 Attachment] Scan might not of worked good but can anyone tell me what it is. I picked this up a few days ago and was going to wait till I get home to identify butit's killing me to know. thanks Rick ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 06:07:14 +0000 (UTC) To: From: Subject: A to Z From Adriance to Zentkovich, I found some time over the Holidays to hit a few lists. These went outbound today. Look real close at the photo maybe you see your envelope in the stack ;) Naturally I wasn't able to hit everyone this time, but as part of my 2012 hobby goals, I vow to make more frequent trips to the post office like this one and help more OBC WL's!! OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or storage of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 04:07:42 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: NCAA Grid, Day 2 Fellas -- We took our first casualty last night in the Sugar Bowl, so we're down to six players. A West Virginia win tonight would knock out half the field! Take Care, Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia No Illinois Ark State No Illinois No Illinois Ark State Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= To: Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:45:35 -0500 From: "Rob Fitts" Subject: Re: Type cards I'm also an on and off collector of type cards. I was really into it about7 years ago and stopped. So far, I've just done one of each issue and putit (if it fits) into a 6 pocket page with a printed label. But the pages look a little diverse. I have a friend who collects one page for each type- a really cool idea but it can get pretty expensive (howvever, this is hisonly collection and he has been doing it for 30 years). For post 1980 cards, I have what I think is a novel idea.. I collect 1 wrapper plus 8 cards for all cards issued in packs. It looks pretty cool but takes up 4 big binders. I did that for about 2-3 years and picked up most of the issues, then somebody came up with the $50-$100 pack idea and I lostinterest. I'd love to get back into type cards and pool resources. There were so many messages on this theme that I didn't read them all but in case it wasn't mentioned, maybe we can come up with a type card spread sheet that we can use as a checklist and post to what I hope will become a small Type Card subgroup rob fitts Murder, Espionage & Baseball ================= To: Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:38:04 -0500 From: "Rob Fitts" Subject: type card checklists found Hi Guys I don't know if there are better checklists out there (a quick Google search found none) but I have Type Card checklists up the 1980 in both Word andExcell formats if anybody would like a copy rob fitts Murder, Espionage & Baseball ================= To: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:17:46 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--second call for items Here are the items we have so far. Get those items in...if you don't see yours below, I haven't received the description. (not sure if the paste will come through, so i might send again shortly) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:05:31 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--call for items Many of you have expressed a desire to make some type of contribution in Ryan's memory. As we have done in the past, we will be holding a charity auction to raise funds. The OBCAC is now deciding the recipient of the effort, but it will likely be a direct contribution to Ryan's family or a donation to the charity named in his obituary--the American Diabetes Association. The procedures are simple. If you have an item to donate, please send me adescription of the item, along with a starting price. I will gather descriptions for a week, then start the auction next Sunday. The auction will close the following Sunday (jan 15th). The winners will send payment to theobc treasurer, those donating the items will send the items directly to the winner, and the treasurer will then make the contribution on behalf of OBC. We're still working on some of the details, so feel free to ask questions or ask for clarifications. Otherwise, get those item descriptions to me. Mac Wubben on behalf of the OBCAC ================= To: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:21:42 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--second Here are the items we have so far. Get those items in...if you don't see yours below, I haven't received the description. (see attachment for clearer 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) 100 card lot of 1970 Topps 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:05:31 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--call for items Many of you have expressed a desire to make some type of contribution in Ryan's memory. As we have done in the past, we will be holding a charity auction to raise funds. The OBCAC is now deciding the recipient of the effort, but it will likely be a direct contribution to Ryan's family or a donation to the charity named in his obituary--the American Diabetes Association. The procedures are simple. If you have an item to donate, please send me adescription of the item, along with a starting price. I will gather descriptions for a week, then start the auction next Sunday. The auction will close the following Sunday (jan 15th). The winners will send payment to theobc treasurer, those donating the items will send the items directly to the winner, and the treasurer will then make the contribution on behalf of OBC. We're still working on some of the details, so feel free to ask questions or ask for clarifications. Otherwise, get those item descriptions to me. Mac Wubben on behalf of the OBCAC ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:53:58 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Another Seamheads Article Here's a book for many that sounds interesting, especially for you "statmeisters". =E2=9CA Unique Look At Big League Baseball=E2=9D A Must Have For Seamheads Posted: 03 Jan 2012 05:17 PM PST For most normal people, New Year=E2=99s Eve is all about bidding the oldyear adieu and ringing in the new one with friends, family, Dick Clark, Times Square, Jenny McCarthy kissing a dude she=E2=99d just met and lots and lots of adult beverages. But for me it was about methodically soaking in the information on all 374 pages of chocolatey goodness that is Joe Taxiera=E2=99s book, A Unique Look At Big League Baseball. Dedicated? Of course! Pathetic? Indeed! But if I could go back do it over again, I wouldn=E2=99t change a thing (except for listening to Clark count down the ball drop, which was just sad). Taxiera sent me two complimentary copies (damn, I love this gig) and asked for my opinion. The first one I cracked open was the =E2=9CBroadcasters Edition,=E2=9D named so because major league broadcasters as Dave Van Horne (Marlins), Dave Raymond (Astros) and Dave Flemming (Giants), among others, refer to it often during games. Marty Lurie, Tim Kurkjian and Jayson Stark are also fans of the book, so you don=E2=99t need to be named Dave to enjoy it (just sayin=E2=99). The =E2=9CBroadcasters Edition=E2=9D differs from the =E2=9CClubhouse Edition=E2=9D only in that it includes colored tabs numbered 1 through 12 and carries a heavier price tag at $39.99 vs. $29.99 for the non-tabbed version. You=E2=99d think that would be a steep price to pay just for colored and numbered tabs, but the more expensive of the two has actually been more popular, and I can see why: there=E2=99s something about the tabs that appeals to me, probably that they make it so much easier to find what you=E2=99re looking for. And what exactly is that? I=E2=99m so glad you asked. * Chapter One discusses baseball=E2=99s history and includes timelines for each era loaded with information about rules changes, statistics and how game was played. Then it segues into home run feats, such as the average number of home runs hit in each MLB venue over the last 15 years; home/road splits for the top 15 single-season home run kings (in 1938, Hank Greenberg hit 39 of his 58 homers at home, whereas Babe Ruth hit 32 of his 60 1927 homers on the road); home/road splits for ballparks (Coors Field appears on the list six times, but doesn=E2=99t rank #1 in home/road HR differential; you also won=E2=99t be surprised to see which park ranks first in fewest homers allowed as opposed to those hit on the road). The rest of the chapter has other fantastic lists, including an annual progression of salaries and the first night games in 16 different parks. * Chapter Two is all aboutteam franchise and ballpark history. Here you=E2=99ll find years of operation for all active franchises; expansions and relocations; and information about each franchise and every ballpark they=E2=99ve ever called home. There are also some great photos featured. * Chapter Three is about teams and managers, and here you=E2=99ll find a list of pennant and World Series winners in chronological order; World Series career batting and pitching records; World Series single-season batting and pitching records for four-, five-, six- and seven-game series for both players and teams. Then the real fun begins with lists of teams that spent the entire season in first place, or fewest days in first place, or earliest to clinch a pennant or division. There are 100-win seasons listed by team as well as 100-loss seasons (the Phillies have won 100 games in a season only twice, but have lost a hundred 14 times); consecutive wins and losses, extra-inning games, longest and shortest games by time, most one-run games won and lost in a season, and other fun lists like =E2=9CTeams with most infielders with 100 runs scored=E2=9D (the 1950 Red Sox hold the record with four). * Chapter Four features career batting records but goes beyond the typicaland includes things like =E2=9CRuns as % of Times On Base,=E2=9D =E2=9CHits Per Game Played,=E2=9D =E2=9C2+Home Run Games,=E2=9D =E2=9C3+ Home Run Games,=E2=9D =E2=9CLead-Off Home Runs,=E2=9D =E2=9CWalk-OffHome Runs,=E2=9D (not surprisingly the top five are all-time greats but one active player has a chance to set the record with one more walk-off piece), =E2=9CFewest Strikeouts per Home Run,=E2=9D and many others. * Chapter Five boasts single-season batting records and, again, goes beyond what you=E2=99d normally find in a record book. Taxiera lists the most at-bats, hits and RBIs with runners in scoring position since 1950, along with juicy nuggets like =E2=9CFewest Runs Scored in a Single Season (min. 3.1 plate appearances per team game)=E2=9D; most and fewest hits, singles, doubles and triples; a whole slew of home run lists; Power/Speed Numbers; and any other offensive category you can dream up. In 2010, Mark Reynolds fanned once every 2.36 at-bats, but that=E2=99s still not the single season record. You=E2=99ll have to buy the book to see who holds it. Oh, by the way, Joe also includes Sabermetric batting records as well. * Chapter Six is dedicated to home runs and includes more lists than you=E2=99ll know what to do with (but that=E2=99s a good thing). Home runs by position and by month; =E2=9CFewest Games to HR Increments from Start of Season=E2=9D (in other words, it took George Bell, Tuffy Rhodes and Dmitri Young only one game to reach three home runs; it took Barry Bonds only 89 team games to reach 40 in 2001); homers by decade, by age, at certain ages, in first major league at-bat; and a comparison by age of players with 500+ homers through 2010. * Chapter Seven is about batting streaks and single game feats, and includes lists of seasons with 80, 100, 120 and 140 RBIs and/or runs scored; 150+ and 200+ hit seasons; seasons with at least 100 walks, 50+ and 75+ extra base hits, 20+ intentional walks, slugging .600, batting .300, reaching base at a .400 clip, and on and on (the most home runs hit in a six-game span was 10 by Frank Howard, in 1968 of all years; Sid Gordon grounded into a double play in six straight games in 1943; Joe Sewell went 115 straight games and 439 at-bats without striking out in 1929; Craig Biggio was caught stealing in five straight games in 1993 without recording a stolen base; from July 1, 1951 to June 14, 1953 Pete Runnels was caught stealing 16 consecutive times without recording a stolen base). * Chapter Eight is where the pitchers start to get their due, and here you=E2=99ll find the usual suspects=E2=94Cy Young at the top of the wins and losses lists, Ed Walsh leading in ERA, Walter Johnson the king of shutouts=E2=94but you=E2=99ll also find stuff probably didn=E2=99t know. Among pitchers with at least 2,000 innings, Carsey has the worst ERA at 4.95; Rollie Fingers allowed the second most walk-off home runs in his career, but isn=E2=99t close to the all-time leader; Ricardo Rincon was especially adept at keeping inherited runners from scoring, but Dale Murray was not; Jack Lynch (no relation, as far as I know) completed almost all of his 217 starts, while Jimmy Haynes completed only two of his 203 starts; of the runs my buddy Curt Schilling allowed in his career, 95% were earned, while only 57% of Pud Galvin=E2=99s runs allowed were earned; Eddie Plank tossed 4,496 innings without ever surrendering a grand slam. * Chapter Nine features single-season pitching records, including most wins and losses and lowest and highest ERA, but also some fun stuff like =E2=9CMost Wins with No Losses or Losses with No Wins,=E2=9D =E2=9CMost Games Started with No Complete Games,=E2=9D most blown saves and worst =E2=9CSaves-to-Blown Saves Differential since 1988,=E2=9D lowest opponents batting average with runners in scoring position, =E2=9CMost Innings Pitched with No Hit Batsmen or Wild Pitches=E2=9D (you=E2=99ll NEVER guess who holds that record), most stolen bases allowed and best SB% (you think Luis Tiant was great in 1968? You=E2=99re right. Nine runners attempted to steal him on the mound and all nine were gunned down). * Chapter Ten lists pitching streaks and single game feats, such as Plank=E2=99s 14 straight years of ERA=E2=99s under 2.99; Christy Mathewson=E2=99s 12 straight 20-win seasons; Anthony Young=E2=99s 27 straight losses without a win; Pedro Martinez=E2=99s 130 strikeouts over a 10-game span from August of 1999 to April of 2000; Curt Young allowing a home run in 19 straight starts in 1987; Lefty Gomez walking 11 in a 9-0 shutout on August 1, 1941, and Milt Gaston walking only two but allowing 14hits in a 9-0 shutout on July 10, 1928; and, of course, Tippy Martinez picking off all three runners who reached first against him on August 24, 1983. * Chapter Eleven covers fielding and breaks things down by position so that we can see that Eddie Collins played more games at second base than anyone else (2,650), Placido Polanco has the best fielding percentage among second sackers with a minimum of 1,000 games (.993) and fielded 911 straight chances without an error between 2006 and 2008, =E2=9CLaughing Larry=E2=9D Doyle committed most errors (443) and Bill Mazeroski turned the most double plays (1,706). And before we anoint Johnny Bench and Ivan Rodriguez the greatest defensive catchers of all-time, let=E2=99s give Roy Campanella his props=E2=94according to Joe=E2=99s book, Campy threw out more than 60% of opposing basestealers in 1948, =E2=9949, =E2=9950, =E2=9951 and =E2=9952, and twice tossed out more than 67%. * Chapter Twelve finishes things off with awards, All-Star games and Hall of Famers, and provides lists like =E2=9CCareer Triple Crown Winners,=E2=9D or those who led his respective league in all three categories at different times in his career (Albert Pujols, for example, paced the NL in AVG in 2003, home runs in 2009 and 2010, and RBIs in 2010, but never led in all three in the same year). You=E2=99ll also find a list of All-Star selections games played (Warren Spahn was on the NL=E2=99s All-Star roster 17 times, but appeared in only seven games); batting and pitching records; and a list of MVP and Cy Young Award winners with the fewest All-Star selections (who would have guessed that Kirk Gibson was never an All-Star?). And finally, the book concludes with lists of Hall of Famers with the highest percentage of votes received, and inductees by year with their vote percentages. Joe Taxiera=E2=99s A Unique Look At Big League Baseball is a Seamhead=E2=99s dream and will be within arm=E2=99s reach for a very long time. The most recent edition is updated through 2010 and newer editions won=E2=99t come out until sometime in 2013 (damn publishers), but this book, especially the =E2=9CBroadcasters Edition=E2=9D is a must-have for any baseball fan. Just ask Jayson Stark, who called Joe=E2=99s book =E2=9CThe greatest baseball record book ever,=E2=9D or Tim Kurkjian, who is also a big fan of Joe=E2=99s work and wrote, =E2=9C[Joe's] wonderful book sits prominently in my office.=E2=9D Well, it now sits prominently in my office as well. Do yourself a favor and plunk down the $39.99, and make sure you have a prominent spot in your office for Joe=E2=99s wonderful book. Disclaimer: I was provided with a free copy of the book being reviewed by the publisher, but received no payment or other consideration for this review. ================= To: , Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:26:32 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] new 1972 baseball variation? This is exactly why I don't do variation very often. I could see the difference, but using the tiny screen on the phone. For some reason, loops in the sky seems a legit pursuit though. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:12:12 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] new 1972 baseball variation? Just saw a thread on the PSA boards - has anyone in the group heard of the #78 Steve Arlin "eyeball" variation? Look at the position of his eyes in each ================= To: , Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:39:54 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] type card checklists found I have created a group for those on the type card quest. I thought that this might move things along a little. Let me know if you want in...I added everyone who responded initially, but the invite may have headed to your junk I'd love to see the checklists. Can you upload to the typeset group? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ochiaifitts@verizon.net Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 11:38:04 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] type card checklists found Hi Guys I don't know if there are better checklists out there (a quick Google search found none) but I have Type Card checklists up the 1980 in both Word andExcell formats if anybody would like a copy rob fitts Murder, Espionage & Baseball ================= Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:48:10 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC , Geno , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] NCAA Grid, Day 1 Well, I guess my description of Clemson's defense "porous" may have been a good use of words...they let up the most points in any bowl game ever. Luckytoad looking good ;)

A win by Kansas State would give me the pool, or else a win by either Pittsburgh or Arkansas State does the same. (I think)

Either Hitz or Andy still have a realistic chance too though as the next games involve a few teams that started great and have finished softly...its hard to tell how good those teams really are.

Either way, it's fun...much appreciated!
Geaux Tigers !
OBC Forever
Brian

Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD ================= Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 04:13:52 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: NCAA Grid, Day 3 Fellas -- The Toadmeister was right - that was quite a display of nothing by Clemson's D! How in the world does that happen? I'm sure Illinois will now hire the Clemson Defensive Coordinator... Here's the pool, down to three players: Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia No Illinois No Illinois Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 20:10:14 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--call for items When is the deadline for submissions? Before this coming Sunday? Thanks again ================= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 05:41:21 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: NCAA Grid, Day 4 Fellas -- Arkansas pulled out and the Cotton Bowl and left three guys in the running for the OBCS Championship! We could have a winner today after the Compass Take Care, Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia No Illinois No Illinois Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 09:35:13 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Mike Mackie Subject: Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? Hi everyone I hope the Ramblings list is the proper way to ask the group about something non-sports related, and if not I apologize. I have started doing some genealogical research, mostly doing free internet research. Do any of you have more experience? Looking for advice / tips on searching, whether I should join a pay site like Ancestry.com or the like, and what computer program/software package is best for inputting / displaying / printing this information (I'm currently using Excel). Thank you, Mike Mackie ================= To: Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 12:53:57 -0500 From: "Matt Yudt" Subject: Any young Dodger's fans? Looking for anyone who has kids or grandkids in 3rd grade or younger that like the Dodgers. A (re-gifted) book coming to the first interested. Matt Yudt ================= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:23:21 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? Mike -- I've always wanted to look into that as well, but never seem to have the time. I'm betting on somebody else in my family getting the bug! Best of luck... Take Care, --- On Sat, 1/7/12, Mike Mackie wrote: From: Mike Mackie Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Saturday, January 7, 2012, 11:35 AM Hi everyone I hope the Ramblings list is the proper way to ask the group about something non-sports related, and if not I apologize. I have started doing some genealogical research, mostly doing free internet research. Do anyof you have more experience? Looking for advice / tips on searching,whether I should join a pay site like Ancestry.com or the like, and what computer program/software package is best for inputting / displaying / printing this information (I'm currently using Excel). Thank you, Mike Mackie ================= Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:43:25 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Re: Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? Hi Mike, Heck yea it's OK to ask about non-sports stuff on Ramblings - after all, ifnot here - then where?? I've been doing genealogy off & on for about 20 years (and even gotten bothof my daughters hooked). Here's my take: If you don't want to pay for Ancestry.com, some libraries allow card holders to search Heritage Quest for free; I have a library card from the Columbus (OH) library, and with that I can search from home on the library's website, under the "reference" section. I don't think they'll issue a card to non-Ohio residents - but maybe one of the bigger libraries near you has the same arangement. Heritage Quest is good but has some limitations. I resisted paying for Ancestry.com for a looong time - but last Christmas my wife got my daughter & I a 6-month membership. It was well worth it. It has some similarities to Heritage Quest - the ability to search census records, view the actual census pages, save & print them - but in my opinion Ancestry does a much better job with having data available. Not only can you get census (and other) data, but if other users have shared photos, you can get those too. I found a bunch of mid-19th & early 20th century photos of my aunt's ancestors. I even connected with a distant relative who posted pictures of my great-great grandfather that I'd never seen before. So you might want to splurge & try a 6-month Ancestry.com membership. I think you'll like As far as programs, I've always used Family Tree Maker, and I really like it. It's very good with organizing a lot of data, and you can upload your info if you want too. Very easy to print descendant charts in numerous formats. Let me know if you have any other questions - I'd be glad to help. Tom Housley --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mike Mackie wrote: > Hi everyone > I hope the Ramblings list is the proper way to ask the group about something > non-sports related, and if not I apologize. I have started doing some > genealogical research, mostly doing free internet research. Do any of you > more experience? Looking for advice / tips on searching, whether I should > a pay site like Ancestry.com or the like, and what computer program/software > package is best for inputting / displaying / printing this information (I'm > currently using Excel). > Thank you, > Mike Mackie ================= To: "'Mike Mackie'" , Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:22:31 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? I used ancestry.com and found it pretty good. My only complaint was that it was something like $20 per month. I used it for a few months, printed out everything I found and then canceled my membership. For me the site was pretty good for info in the US (census, military and other records), but didn=92t have much the next parish over (Ireland). So, for the =BE of my ancesters who came over from Ireland in the mid-late 19th century I couldn=92t go to far back. Good luck for whatever you do and thanks again for the Mantle! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Mackie Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 12:35 PM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? Hi everyone I hope the Ramblings list is the proper way to ask the group about something non-sports related, and if not I apologize. I have started doing some genealogical research, mostly doing free internet research. Do any of you have more experience? Looking for advice / tips on searching, whether I should join a pay site like Ancestry.com or the like, and what computer program/software package is best for inputting / displaying / printing this information (I'm currently using Excel). Thank you, Mike Mackie No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4728 - Release Date: 01/07/12 ================= Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:23:41 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "zackenback23" Subject: Re: Off topic: Anyone get involved in genealogy? I agree with Tom on this one - Family Tree Maker is the way to go. I was pretty active in it about 10 years ago and made some great headway without paying for any services. Much off the work also required obtaining certificates from state and local health departments. Also, the Latter Day Saints have a library where a ton of info can be obtained via checkout. A best-case stroke of luck is when you find someone a branch or two up who has worked that line back really far. Alot of free online search sites will lead you to those - usually you can help out the other party as well, as they can use your line downward to help fill out their info. There is another site,I think called Cyndi's list, that has a ton of free info. I found out (no one ever mentioned while I was growing up) that my Great-Great-Grandfather served in the Civil War, and when my family took a trip to Washington DC a few years back, we visited the battlefield. The guide there, who looked like a Confederate General himself, was able to use battle map to pinpoint the ridge on which he was wounded (he survived) back in 1864.It was pretty break-taking to stand on the same ground 143 years later. Good luck in your search... Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Housley" wrote: > Hi Mike, > Heck yea it's OK to ask about non-sports stuff on Ramblings - after all, if not here - then where?? > I've been doing genealogy off & on for about 20 years (and even gotten both of my daughters hooked). Here's my take: > If you don't want to pay for Ancestry.com, some libraries allow card holders to search Heritage Quest for free; I have a library card from the Columbus (OH) library, and with that I can search from home on the library's website, under the "reference" section. I don't think they'll issue a card to non-Ohio residents - but maybe one of the bigger libraries near you has thesame arangement. Heritage Quest is good but has some limitations. > I resisted paying for Ancestry.com for a looong time - but last Christmasmy wife got my daughter & I a 6-month membership. It was well worth it. Ithas some similarities to Heritage Quest - the ability to search census records, view the actual census pages, save & print them - but in my opinion Ancestry does a much better job with having data available. Not only can youget census (and other) data, but if other users have shared photos, you can get those too. I found a bunch of mid-19th & early 20th century photos ofmy aunt's ancestors. I even connected with a distant relative who posted pictures of my great-great grandfather that I'd never seen before. So you might want to splurge & try a 6-month Ancestry.com membership. I think you'lllike > As far as programs, I've always used Family Tree Maker, and I really likeit. It's very good with organizing a lot of data, and you can upload your info if you want too. Very easy to print descendant charts in numerous formats. > Let me know if you have any other questions - I'd be glad to help. > Tom Housley > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mike Mackie wrote: > > > > Hi everyone > > > > I hope the Ramblings list is the proper way to ask the group about something > > non-sports related, and if not I apologize. I have started doing some > > genealogical research, mostly doing free internet research. Do any of you > > more experience? Looking for advice / tips on searching, whether I should > > a pay site like Ancestry.com or the like, and what computer program/software > > package is best for inputting / displaying / printing this information (I'm > > currently using Excel). > > > > Thank you, > > > > Mike Mackie > > ================= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 13:32:35 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: OBCS Pool, Day 5 Fellas -- As hard as he tries, Brian just can't seal the deal! He's 0-2 in clincher games now, as Andy and the Hit-man tied him up with an SMU win over Pitt today. It's anybody's pool now, as we go to the GoDaddy Bowl (I didn't make that up, by the way), featuring Arkansas St and Northern Illinois... Take Care, Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia No Illinois No Illinois Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 17:51:07 -0500 (EST) From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: taking off glued on paper I have a stack of 1970 OPC hockey cards with paper glued on the backs, which makes them hard to read. I used a humidifier to loosen up and clear some off, any suggestions for a better way? Reminds me of steaming wallpaper butI think that these cards may be less durable :). ================= To: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 12:13:43 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--last call for items Here is the lot list...hopefully it will come through all right this time. We'll start the auction tonight...so try to get me your lots before then. I will accommodate late additions however...so it's never too late to donate an item. Get those items in! High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates game David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Powell Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 TJ Valacak From: obcmac@hotmail.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--second call for items Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:17:46 -0500 Here are the items we have so far. Get those items in...if you don't see yours below, I haven't received the description. (not sure if the paste will come through, so i might send again shortly) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 14:05:31 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--call for items Many of you have expressed a desire to make some type of contribution in Ryan's memory. As we have done in the past, we will be holding a charity auction to raise funds. The OBCAC is now deciding the recipient of the effort, but it will likely be a direct contribution to Ryan's family or a donation to the charity named in his obituary--the American Diabetes Association. The procedures are simple. If you have an item to donate, please send me adescription of the item, along with a starting price. I will gather descriptions for a week, then start the auction next Sunday. The auction will close the following Sunday (jan 15th). The winners will send payment to theobc treasurer, those donating the items will send the items directly to the winner, and the treasurer will then make the contribution on behalf of OBC. We're still working on some of the details, so feel free to ask questions or ask for clarifications. Otherwise, get those item descriptions to me. Mac Wubben on behalf of the OBCAC ================= To: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 20:24:33 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--bidding is open Bidding is now open...gold stars for big raises rather than small one ;-). Please bid by lot number. Feel free to send more lots in. Get your bids in early...auction will close at midnight next sunday. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates game David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Powell Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc Gary Mandell "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... Brian Betza ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 02:50:08 +0000 (UTC) To: obc-ramblings , Mac From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--bidding is Mac,
lot #30 T207
$40 and a gold star?
OBC Forever
Brian


Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD ================= To: , Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:55:01 -0500 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--bidding is open Mac: On auction, Lot 7 $12, Lot 9 $8. Gord Ellis ----- Original Message ----- From: Mac Wubben To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--bidding is open Bidding is now open...gold stars for big raises rather than small one ;-). Please bid by lot number. Feel free to send more lots in. Get your bids in early...auction will close at midnight next sunday. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a crease) Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. There is a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in theneighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd)556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates game David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk,Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Powell Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 Gary Mandell 5 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... $2 Brian Betza ================= To: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:37:48 -0600 From: "Mark Zentkovich" Subject: need 69 flood does anyone have one that I can trade for? any grade is ok thanks, markz 1969 540 Curt Flood ================= Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 21:42:08 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mark Zentkovich From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need 69 flood I have one (nice condition) and it will go out Monday with a few others I pulled earlier for you. John Stamperhttp://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Sun, 1/8/12, Mark Zentkovich wrote: From: Mark Zentkovich Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] need 69 flood To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 8, 2012, 8:37 PM does anyone have one that I can trade any grade is ok thanks, markz 1969540Curt Flood ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 05:50:10 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC , Geno From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCS Pool, Day 5 [1 Attachment] OBC World,
Um...so how does a guy go 0-3 in closeout games when trying to win a pool where two losses eliminates you?
Pretty amazing feat!
Well next year I plan on abandoning my strategy of picking winners by the color of their uniforms...(aunt tilly...that's for you)
Perhaps flipping a coin might be a more sound strategy.
Congrats to my defeaters...geaux Tigers!
OBC Forever
Brian

Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 04:00:12 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: OBCS Pool, Day 6 OBCers -- As Brian alluded to, he has been eliminated after a dreadful run down the stretch. That leaves tonight as the true Championship of the OBCS - no voters or tie-breakers necessary! Take Care, Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia No Illinois No Illinois Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obcmac@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:36:21 -0500 (EST) From: FIREMAN Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--bidding is open on lot 45 i will bid $5 Rob Gioia ----- Original Message ----- From: Mac Wubben To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 8:24 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--bidding is open Bidding is now open...gold stars for big raises rather than small one ;-). Please bid by lot number. Feel free to send more lots in. Get your bids in early...auction will close at midnight next sunday. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a crease) Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire setis only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. There is a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=E2=99s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962#19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=E2=A6Given away at Pirates game David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 1825 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Powell Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 Gary Mandell 5 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases butdecent Brian Betza ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:15:20 -0800 (PST) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Watts Edward Subject: 1970 T Mickey Stanley Hi Everyone, I was shuffling through some papers in my office just now and came across a1970T Mickey Stanley (#383) that I pulled for one of you Mickey Stanley collectors but managed to forget to send. Since I have long since forgotten who its intended recipient was, I am putting it up for grabs. Let me know if you are interested. Ed Watts ================= To: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:58:22 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Charity Auction for Ryan Distelrath--Monday Update The bids are rolling in. Gold stars to Brian and Mike(s) for big raises rather than small one ;-). Please bid by lot number. Feel free to send more lots in. Get your bids in early...auction will close at midnight on Sunday. As a fun bonus, I will send a pre-war card to the one contributing the most...and to the one winning the most lots...possibly HOF'ers depending on howit High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Mike Mroz Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Jason C Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Bob Cor. Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Jason C Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Brian. L Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Bob Cor. Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates game David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 Jason C TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Powell Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc Gary Mandell "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... Brian Betza ================= To: Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 18:45:35 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Anybody want to share a lot of P2's Pins? I probably won't go for it unless I find somebody to share it with: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-Sweet-Caporal-Pins-Lot-34-WOW-Cy-Young-other-HOFers-/110803824520 So, $153 would get you a Cy Young and 16 other pins...you can have the other HOF'er if I get the 9 i need, one of the two Cy's...and I'll take the dupes in the lot for the other 7. Let me know ASAP. I wouldn't go above the opening $300...plus $6 shipping. ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:50:51 -0500 (EST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Email address I have changed my email address to brockhattox@gmail.com. How do I make the change on the directory? ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 21:33:44 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Follow-up to my Norm Cash thanks A couple of comments after my thanks post about Norm Cash led to a blog article on the potential Cash-Colavito-Maris lineup Cleveland could've fielded in the early 60s. Any other potential Indian sluggers I missed from that era? http://number5typecollection.blogspot.com/2012/01/1960s-cleveland-couldhavebeen-dians.html ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 22:16:12 -0500 (EST) To: glidden.matthew@gmail.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Follow-up to my Norm Cash thanks Content-Language: en bob chance, vic power and leon wagner all hit with some power and were former indians. in an era where 22 HRs could lead the tribe for a season, i am sure there were more Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 1/9/2012 8:33:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, glidden.matthew@gmail.com writes: A couple of comments after my thanks post about Norm Cash led to a blog article on the potential Cash-Colavito-Maris lineup Cleveland could've fielded in the early 60s. Any other potential Indian sluggers I missed from that _http://number5typecollection.blogspot.com/2012/01/1960s-cleveland-couldhave (http://number5typecollection.blogspot.com/2012/01/1960s-cleveland-couldhavebeen-dians.html) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:33:53 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bob" Subject: 1967 Topps autographs Hi gang, Check out what this guy is doing with his 1967 Topps baseball set. It's quite an undertaking. http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/sports/C938/ ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:56:49 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: OBCS Pool, Final Fellas -- Andy Cook took the pool last night thanks to convincing fashion, with Tide's big win! SO everyone that played can send Andy a card, and Andy can send Steve a card for 2nd place. Thanks to everybody that played - that was Take Care, Mich St Mich St Mich St Virginia Tech West Virginia No Illinois No Illinois Ark State First tie-breaker is losses, second tie-breaker is points Two losses and you're out ================= To: Geno Wagner , Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:49:12 +0000 From: "Hitzeman, Steven A." Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCS Pool, Final ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 09:46:44 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Fw: Seamheads.com: A Brief Dissection of the 2012 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot Congrats to Larkin and all the Reds fans in OBC Seamheads.com: A Brief Dissection of the 2012 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot A Brief Dissection of the 2012 Baseball Hall of Fame Ballot Posted: 09 Jan 2012 04:16 PM PST First off, congratulations are in order for the Baseball Hall of Fames=E2=99 newest member, Barry Larkin. His selection today caps off an excellent 19 year major league career that was spent exclusively with the Cincinnati Reds. With 86.4% of the votes, Larkin was the only player on this year=E2=99s ballot to garner the necessary 75% for enshrinement. Now that the results have been made public, I, like many other baseball fans, have some thoughts on what transpired today. Now that I have been able to digest the ballot, I have a number of thoughtsthat relate to the candidates. In the interest of time I will only addressthe top eight vote-getters from this year, and post a few comments about each. Barry Larkin: 86.4% of vote- I have no problem with Larkin getting in. I watched him his entire career, and at no point did I ever feel he was a Hall of Fame player. However, the numbers are there; barely, and although I findhim to be a fringy Hall of Famer, he is now a Hall of Famer nonetheless. Jack Morris: 66.7% of vote- The continued support is Morris of something I just don=E2=99t get. He was a good, but not great pitcher. His career 3.90 ERA and 1.30 WHIP are not Hall of Fame worthy figures. Additionally, hiscareer WAR of 39.3 is 137th all time for pitchers, and places him behind the likes of Bob Welch and Tom Candiotti, who both pitched within Morris=E2=99 Jeff Bagwell: 56.0% of vote- Bagwell was my biggest no-brainer on the ballot. I find it inexplicable that he has received such lukewarm support thus far. You can read my full analysis on his candidacy here. Lee Smith: 50.6% of vote- With 478 saves, Smith is third all time in major league history behind Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman. Even taking that into account, I believe that the Hall of Fame must get watered down even more than it has in recent years for there to be room for Smith. His 30.3 WAR is tied with Sid Fernandez, and well behind Rivera=E2=99s 49.9 mark. I think Smith is another case of a good player who many have mistaken as greatsince he retired. Tim Raines: 48.7% of vote- If Jeff Bagwell was the biggest travesty on the ballot, than Raines is travesty 1A. His 3,977 career times on base are 46thall time, and ahead of such luminaries as Tony Gwynn, Nap Lajoie, and Roberto Clemente. For a .294 career hitter, who has the 5th most stolen bases in major league history, it is shocking how little Hall of Fame support Raines Alan Trammell: 36.8% of vote- Although their career numbers are very similar, Trammell is a notch below Larkin in my opinion. Jayson Stark of ESPN pointed out this past week that amongst other differences, Trammell=E2=99s career OPS was 48 points behind Larkin. It=E2=99s not a huge gap, but such things can make a big difference in these situations. Trammell will probably get in eventually, but will face an uphill battle over the next few years with so many big time candidates coming up. Edgar Martinez: 36.5% of vote- If Lee Smith, a specialist, can get as many votes as he does, than where is the love for Martinez? The lifelong Seattle Mariner may have played about 75% of his games at designated hitter,but his .312 career batting average and 147 OPS+, which ranks 44th all time, are great arguments that Martinez should be getting a lot more electorallove than he has. Last time I looked, DH was a position in baseball, and Martinez is the greatest of all time. He has solid credentials for eventual induction. Fred McGriff: 23.9% of vote- If the Crime Dog had hit another seven home runs, before he retired, he may be seen as a more viable candidate. As it is,his 2,490 hits and 493 home runs are impressive totals, and when combined with his consistency and solid reputation, he may get voted in one day. He is someone I could go either way on and wouldn=E2=99t be outraged with whatever is decided. Like every other Hall of Fame vote, 2012 didn=E2=99t necessarily have the perfect outcome. Fortunately, one of the best aspects of the game are thedebates it inspires. The players who are left over from this year=E2=99s ballot will certainly inspire that as we move towards future elections. It can be tough, but when it comes to the Hall of Fame, an invisible line must exist, acting as the cut-off point, separating those who deserve to be enshrined and those who fall just short. The tug-of-war arguments we have over who are the most deserving helps determine which side of that line each player will ultimately end up. Andrew Martin is the founder of =E2=9CThe Baseball Historian=E2=9D blog where he posts his thoughts about baseball on a regular basis. He can bereached at historianandrew@gmail.com. You can also reach him on Twitter at@historianandrew. You are subscribed to email updates from Seamheads.com To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610 ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:56:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Aaron" Subject: my DISTELRATH auction bid sheet I would like to place starting bids on items 1, 2, 3, 10, 20, 23, 31, 34, 38, 40, 41, 42, 43 And raise the bid on these: $13 on item 7 $6 on item 19 $11 on item 28 $3 on item 37 $6 on item 45 My apologies if any of these bid amounts are outdated. I will check in again to see after the next update. Or is there another place to see the entire bid sheet? Because it is often being cut off around item 36 or 38 when it is listed on the Yahoo group page... Aaron Shirley ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:01:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Chris" Subject: I've moved again This time, the news isn't good. My wife and I have split up, so I've moved out of my house as we figure out where the road will be turning for us. Fortunately, my collection is safe from any issues for the time being but it's not in a place I can get to easily. I do, however, intend to continue with my regular hobby-related blogs for the time being. For the time being my new address is: 6835 Mt. Quincy Dr NE St. Petersburg, FL 33702 Take care, ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:20:10 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath auction update--get in your bids The bids are rolling in. Please bid by lot number. Feel free to send more lots in...see the end for two lots added by Rick Lyons (thanks Rick) Get your bids in early...auction will close at midnight on As a fun bonus, I will send a pre-war card to the one contributing the most...and to the one winning the most lots...possibly HOF'ers depending on howit High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a crease) Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included inthis lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. There is a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Mike Mroz Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Jason C Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C.Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Jason C Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Brian. L Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Bob Cor. Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362479 486 512 525 Jason C TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212228 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 Gary Mandell 5 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases butdecent Brian Betza 75 OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right Rick Lyons 75 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Rick Lyons ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:54:56 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath auction update--get in your bids (new lots and new bids) Sorry for another update...but we have a bunch of bids and a couple new lots. Please bid by lot number. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a crease) Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included inthis lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. There is a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Mike Mroz Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Jason C Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Jason C Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C.Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Jason C Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Jason C Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Brian. L Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362479 486 512 525 TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jason C Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212228 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 Gary Mandell 5 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases butdecent Jason C Brian Betza 75 OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right Jason C Rick Lyons 75 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Jason C Rick Lyons 1975 Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT Rick Lyons 64 wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Rick Lyons 64 Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Rick Lyons=09=09=09=09=09 ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 13:48:44 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Righting a past mistake 1975's have always been one of my favorite sets. Mostly because my cousin gave me a bunch back in 1983 (my first year of collecting). Back in my early days of the vintage chase, I thought it would be great to get all the 75's...but instead of putting the set together, I simply bought a complete set. Maybe if I traded for it, it would have been different...but I've always eyed that set suspiciously. Sure, most people would like the sharp corners and fine condition, but I (despite my affinity for 75's) disliked the set. So I took the plunge and dumped the set...so now I officially need a bunch of 75's. Steve R set me up with a starter set a long time ago...so I have a few...but I need all of these: 1975 Topps (b 1/10/12) 1-5 7 10 13 16 17 19-21 23 26 29-31 33 38 39 41-48 50-52 54 55 57 60 61 63 68 70 71 73 75 77 80 82 85-87 89 91-95 97-101 104-108 110-115 117-119 123-126 129 131 134-137 139-142 144 146 147 149-156 158 160-166 168-171 173 174 176 177 179-182 185-190 193-196200 201 203 205 207 210 211 213-225 228 230 233 236-239 241-248 250 251 254 255 257 258 260261 264-267 269 272 275-277 280 281 284 286 287 289-294 298-300 302-305 308-310 312 313 316319-322 325 328 330 335 336 338 343 345 348 350-352 354 356 357 360 361 363 365 370 371 374375 380 381-388 390 391 394 395 397 399 400 403 405 407 409 411 412 414-417 419-421 424 430-435 439-442 445 447 448 450-453 456 457 459 460 463 470-472 477 481-483 487 489 497 498 500504 506-508 510-512 514-517 520 521 523-537 539-542 545 547 549 551-557 559-565 567-570 573 575577 580 583-585 587-591 594-596 598-602 604-611 613-618 620 621 623-631 633 635-642 644 646-653 656 657 659 660 See how easy my list is these days? As always, any help is appreciated. ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 00:01:43 -0600 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Classic baseball journalism This articles is about a specific writer but also touches on archived issues of Baseball Magazine. At the very bottom are some teasers like "How Lajoie held his bat". I enjoyed the article and hope you do too. http://joeposnanski.si.com/2012/01/01/f-c-lane/?scthp_wr_a4&erefsihp Steve Rittenberg Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 05:28:37 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Fw: [RHS Class of 1970] Seattle Mariners promote Ken Madeja to Midwest... Kinda cool,Ken is a friend of my wife, they wereclassmates @ Riverside School back in the day! "we keep what we give away!" --- On Thu, 1/12/12, Rocco Pisto wrote: >From: Rocco Pisto >Subject: [RHS Class of 1970] Seattle Mariners promote Ken Madeja to Midwest... >To: "RHS Class of 1970" >Date: Thursday, January 12, 2012, 4:39 AM >Rocco Pisto posted in RHS Class of 1970. > Rocco Pisto 7:39am Jan 12 >Seattle Mariners promote Ken Madeja to Midwest Coordinator; hire Jack Smitheran >as scouting advisor >11/03/2005 6:50 PM ET >Seattle Mariners Public Relations >Seattle Mariners Vice President of Scouting Bob Fontaine announced today the >promotion of scout Ken Madeja to Midwest Coordinator and the hiring of Jack >Smitheran as Scouting Advisor. >Madeja, who was named the Mariners Scout of the Year in 2003, began scouting >Seattle in 1988. Since then, he has made a specialty of scouting and signing >Major League quality pitchers, including Matt Thornton, Clint Nageotte, J.J. >Putz, Derek Lowe, Matt Mantei and Brett Hinchliffe, among others. >Madeja, who resides in Detroit, MI, played at Wayne State University from >1971-1974, where he set 10 school hitting records. He began his professional >scouting career as an area scout with the Detroit Tigers in 1978, working as >area scout in Michigan and Ohio until 1987. While with the Tigers, he scouted >and signed John Smoltz, Scott Aldred and Chris Hoiles, among other players. >As Midwest Scouting Coordinator, Madeja will oversee the Mariners area scouts >the Midwest. Madeja will be taking over for the late Carroll Sembera. >View Post on Facebook =B7 Edit Email Settings =B7 Reply to this email to add ================= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 09:09:01 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath auction update--get in your bids (new lots and new bids) Glenn added a few new lots...including multiple OBC Scotland/Chicago pins. Get your bids in! Don't forget about prizes for the most lots won and thebiggest total contribution! Thanks for all the bids. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a crease) Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included inthis lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. There is a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Mike Mroz Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Jason C Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Bob C Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C.Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Jason C Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Bob C Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Jason C Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Brian. L Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Bob C Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362479 486 512 525 Glenn C. TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Glenn C. Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jason C Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212228 Bob C TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 Gary Mandell 5 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Bob C Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases butdecent Jason C Brian Betza 75 OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right Jason C Rick Lyons 75 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Jason C Rick Lyons 1975 Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT Rick Lyons 64 wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Rick Lyons 64 Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Rick Lyons 1988 Topps UK Baseball partial set (59/88) - includes 12 HoFers Glenn Codere 1971 Topps Super #27 Claude Osteen Glenn Codere 2011 Topps Lineage Giant #TG4 Joe Mauer Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere 1962 Topps Football Bucks #14 Yale Lary & #40 Milt Plum (both Detroit) - both a bit o/c about 95/5 top to bottom otherwise nice shape Glenn Codere=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:19:36 -0500 (EST) To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: 1954 Bowman Alvin Dark # 41 variation After looking for years, it turns out that I may have been looking for the wrong error. Beckett on line says that the 41A card does not have a dot in front of the 960 lifetime fielding average, and the B card does. The SCD from 2006 says the A card shows a .986 current year fielding average, and the B card shows .968. SCD says that both show a .960 lifetime fielding average. The card I have shows .986. Can you variation freaks please check out your # 41 cards and let me know what you find? I would appreciate it. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: , Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:34:42 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: RE: [OBC-Wantlist] 1954 Bowman Alvin Dark # 41 variation Per Gilkeson - and my own collection - the two cards are PO 68, 1467, FA .986, .960 PO 299,1689, FA .968,.960 George Vrechek From: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of smartalecx@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 1:20 PM To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com; OCTraders@yahoogroups.com; Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] 1954 Bowman Alvin Dark # 41 variation After looking for years, it turns out that I may have been looking for the wrong error. Beckett on line says that the 41A card does not have a dot in front of the 960 lifetime fielding average, and the B card does. The SCD from 2006 says the A card shows a .986 current year fielding average, and the B card shows .968. SCD says that both show a .960 lifetime fielding average. The card I have shows .986. Can you variation freaks please check out your # 41 cards and let me know what you find? I would appreciate it. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:09:55 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath auction update--get your bids in! Take a look at the new lots at the end of the auction...and let's see some bidding. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a crease) Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included inthis lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. There is a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Mike Mroz Peter Mead 3 cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Jason C Peter Mead 1960 Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) Dave Skoglund Hall of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Andy Cook 1936 Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) Andy Cook 100 card lot of 1970 Topps Matt Yudt 1973 Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) Geno Wagner 35 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties Bob C Mike Mroz 1936 S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Bob D. Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Bob D. Spike Glidden 1969 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Spike Glidden 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C.Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Jason C Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Marshall West 1952 Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen Jason C Marshall West The 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Bob C Lynn Miller 1941 Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f Jason C Mac Wubben T207 W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking good Brian. L Mac Wubben 1967 Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG Joe Adriance 2 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Bob C Andy Cook 1961-63 Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Andy Cook Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly Ed Pike Josh Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates David Skoglund 29 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362479 486 512 525 Glenn C. TJ Valacak 3 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Glenn C. Jimmie Parker 1964 Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Jimmie Parker 1950 Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan (g/vg) Jason C Jimmie Parker 70-71 scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Jimmie Parker 70 Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Jimmie Parker 72 Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, Jimmie Parker (15) 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212228 TJ Valacak 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 Gary Mandell 5 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 Bob C Brian Betza 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases butdecent Brian Betza 75 OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right Jason C Rick Lyons 75 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Jason C Rick Lyons 1975 Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT Rick Lyons 64 wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Rick Lyons 64 Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Rick Lyons 1988 Topps UK Baseball partial set (59/88) - includes 12 HoFers Glenn Codere 1971 Topps Super #27 Claude Osteen Glenn Codere 2011 Topps Lineage Giant #TG4 Joe Mauer Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Glenn Codere 1962 Topps Football Bucks #14 Yale Lary & #40 Milt Plum (both Detroit) - both a bit o/c about 95/5 top to bottom otherwise nice shape Glenn Codere=09=09=09=09=09 ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:10:03 -0500 From: "Rob Fitts" Subject: My exciting news I finished my book Banzai Babe Ruth in August 2010. I then waited 5 monthsfor my editor to read it, had 4 weeks to make revisions and handed it backin February 2011. It then took another 6 months for the press to proof read it. Finally in September they finished the manuscript and put it into production. Well, after a year and a half since I finished the manuscript and almost five years since I started the project, the first copies arrived yesterday. It looks great and hopefully will be in bookstore in a month orso Murder, Espionage & Baseball ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:52:26 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings , Rob From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My exciting news wow that's great news Rob!
I will certainly be buying one of these books !!! What a great accomplishment and testament to patience!!
OBC Forever
Brian

Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 06:31:52 -0500 (EST) To: familytoad@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My exciting news Content-Language: en For those of you that don't know Rob write as if this is his first attempt at being an author. Since I have both of his other books on Japanese American players perspective on how it is to play in Japanese baseball (both good and bad) and on the first American born player to play in japanese baseball Wally Younamine. It writes with a style that once you start you cant put it down. I preordered the book and cant wait to start reading and I highly recommend the other two as well, whille you wait for it to hit the In a message dated 1/14/2012 12:52:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, familytoad@comcast.net writes: wow that's great news Rob! I will certainly be buying one of these books !!! What a great accomplishment and testament to patience!! OBC Forever Sent from Xfinity Mobile App iPAD ----- Original Message ----- From: ochiaifitts@verizon.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent:Fri Jan 13 06:10:06 UTC 2012 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] My exciting news I finished my book Banzai Babe Ruth in August 2010. I then waited 5 months for my editor to read it, had 4 weeks to make revisions and handed it back in February 2011. It then took another 6 months for the press to proof read it. Finally in September they finished the manuscript and put it into production. Well, after a year and a half since I finished the manuscript and almost five years since I started the project, the first copies arrived yesterday. It looks great and hopefully will be in bookstore in a month or so Murder, Espionage & Baseball _www.BanzaiBabeRuth.com_ (http://www.banzaibaberuth.com/) ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:51:11 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Re: My exciting news Nice work on getting your book published, Rob Fitts I also will look forward to getting the book. Babe Ruth is my favorite player as well. I have some small sense of what's it like to wait for publication. With the exception of my recent Goodie Goldfaden obit which was 5 days from writing to print, most of my SCD articles wait in the hopper for several months. When they finally come out, they are somewhat fresh reading for me as well. I always hope that nothing has changed in the meantime to goof up the accuracy. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 07:36:08 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Illini Santa Fellas -- Geordie was my Santa this year and called me on Christmas Eve to let me know Santa was a bit delayed. Well he must have been shopping up and down Green St in Champaign, since he scored with an Illiniopoly game! It's fungoing through the properties, many of which were my old haunts - Papa Del's Pizza, Record Service, the Illini Union, etc. It's funny that many of these places no longer exist...but they do now! Thanks for the thoughtful gift, Geordie - it'll be fun to play with my old college buds when they come for a visit, as it will certainly conjur up oldstories! Take Care, ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:08:56 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath Auction--Sat Update Just a bit of time left to get your bids in...auction closes at midnight tomorrow...one new hockey lot too. Get those bids in! High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Mike Mroz Peter Mead cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) card lot of 1970 Topps Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Topps UK Baseball partial set (59/88) - includes 12 HoFers Topps Super #27 Claude Osteen Topps Lineage Giant #TG4 Joe Mauer "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Topps Football Bucks #14 Yale Lary & #40 Milt Plum (both Detroit) - both a bit o/c about 95/5 top to bottom otherwise nice shape 70/71 #236 Bobby Orr All-Star Car G- (a few creases) ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:26:13 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: postage question While opening cards yesterday I started thinking...and that is not one of my strong suits. I noticed that many of us send =E2=9C9 packs=E2=9D in a cut plastic page in a regular envelop. This is less expensive than the padded envelop that=E2=99s for sure. But I noticed that many of you use regular stamps on the envelops. I always take mine to the post office and use the self service scale and postage dispenser. I am curious how you guys determine how much postage to attach. I have a postage scale but I don=E2=99t really have a clue about how to determine required postage to the different parts of the country. Thanks is advance for sharing your methods, they are all successful =E2cause I sure get a lot of cards. Mark Holland Vintage List: ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:54:35 -0500 To: Mark Holland , OBC-Ramblings From: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] postage question If you go to usps.com there is a link to calculate postage. On 1/14/12, Mark Holland wrote: > While opening cards yesterday I started thinking...and that is not one ofmy > strong suits. > I noticed that many of us send =939 packs=94 in a cut plastic page in a regular > envelop. This is less expensive than the padded envelop that=92s for sure. > But I noticed that many of you use regular stamps on the envelops. I always > take mine to the post office and use the self service scale and postage > dispenser. I am curious how you guys determine how much postage to attach. > I have a postage scale but I don=92t really have a clue about how to determine > required postage to the different parts of the country. > Thanks is advance for sharing your methods, they are all successful =91cause > sure get a lot of cards. > Thanks! > Mark > Mark Holland > Vintage List: Sent from my mobile device ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 22:32:36 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rob Fitts Subject: Re: My exciting news Thank you Ray! Want a job as a publicist. (-: Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:28:40 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities No need to panic - I haven't discovered any new variations - but while I was re-binderizing my '68 & '69 Topps sets (new binders, new Ultra-pro pages,& adding variations next to their non-variation brethren, rather than at the end), I noticed some interesting items on the backs: 1969 Topps notes: 111 Johnny Morris =96 back says "drafter from Orioles". Not "drafted" - "drafter". Unless someone discovers a "drafted" version, this is a new UER that I haven't seen listed before; 135 Tommy Davis =96 there's a period after "below" (2nd line in bio box), right in the middle of the sentence.) Another UER. 143 Joe Nossek =96 bottom part of "k" is missing from his name on the back.A printing oddity. 154 Jim Britton =96 missing the "m" & part of the "b" in "September" on thefirst bio line. Another printing goof. 208 Don Clendenon =96 On Expos var. =96 last "n" in last name (on the back)mostly missing. On Houston var. =96 last "n" hand-written & is backward. 230 Rusty Staub =96 There is a "traded" line on the last line of his bio, even though the front of the card has his new team. Unless someone discoversa version without a "traded" line, it's another printing oddity. On to the 1968 set: 158 (WS Game), 252 (Angels Team),401 (Mets Team) & 511 (Bill Kelso) =96 there is no copyright on the back bottom of any of these. On the team cards there's really no room, but Kelso appears to be the only player card on the set without a copyright, even though there's room. 490 (Super Stars) Mine has a hand-written "68" in lower right of of the boxon the back. At first, second & third glances, it doesn't look or feel like someone (i.e. a previous owner)has written it on the card; to me there's no indentation at all, which led me to wonder if this was a Topps printing goof. But the backs of the ones I've seen on eBay for comparison are clean - no "68" at all. So I guess whoever wrote the "68" on mine did a great jobon it - BUT - please check yours & make sure I haven't stumbled onto something that really exists in the world of variations. That's all - discuss! Tom Housley ================= To: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 13:39:46 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath Auction--Ends Tonight Get your bids in...total is around $550 now. I will likely send out another update before it closes...depending on the bidding. Feel free to engage in bidding wars. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) card lot of 1970 Topps Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Topps UK Baseball partial set (59/88) - includes 12 HoFers Topps Super #27 Claude Osteen Topps Lineage Giant #TG4 Joe Mauer "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Topps Football Bucks #14 Yale Lary & #40 Milt Plum (both Detroit) - both a bit o/c about 95/5 top to bottom otherwise nice shape 70/71 #236 Bobby Orr All-Star Car G- (a few creases) ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:42:22 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Recent Happenings Had an opportunity to meet up with Randy Welk yesterday. He's in Vegas with his soccer team playing in the annual MLK Invitational. Was able to watch one of his games and I guess I was a jinx, they lost. Afterward weproceeded to his hotel and intended to watch the game in the sports bar orrestaurant and have a bite to eat and chat for awhile. However, as I was waiting downstairs while he cleaned up, I was called to work and never made it back to the hotel. Unfortunate we couldn't have more time togetherbut was great meeting Randy again and have some time together. I enjoyed the soccer game even though I admittedly don't know much about it. Butit was a great day nonetheless. Also received some very welcome foreign currency paper from Richard Dingman. Included six Japanese centavo notes from the occupation of the Philippines during WWII. Some of these look uncirculated, wow! Also there were 3 Russian ruble bills. Never been to Russia, never had any of these before. Thanks a lot Richard for these items. Of course the centavo notes are of significance since I lived in the Philippines for 30 years. The recent exchanges on the servers about currency got me to thinking a little. Many of us I'm sure have other hobbies and interests besides old cardboard. It would be great to share more of that on this forum. Another of my interests has been internet marketing. Can't say I've been successful but have often wondered if anyone else in the group is into this in anyway and willing to share experiences and possibly tips. I own a couple of websites but won't promote them here. Just wondering if there couldbe side discussions between anyone. OBC is the Greatest, Lynn ================= To: , Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 14:13:58 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities Fine detail work. I checked my cards and all are the same as yours, except for the '68 #490 which I don't yet have. I'm curious to see if anyone finds anything different. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:28:40 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities No need to panic - I haven't discovered any new variations - but while I was re-binderizing my '68 & '69 Topps sets (new binders, new Ultra-pro pages,& adding variations next to their non-variation brethren, rather than at the end), I noticed some interesting items on the backs: 1969 Topps notes: 111 Johnny Morris =96 back says "drafter from Orioles". Not "drafted" - "drafter". Unless someone discovers a "drafted" version, this is a new UER that I haven't seen listed before; 135 Tommy Davis =96 there's a period after "below" (2nd line in bio box), right in the middle of the sentence.) Another UER. 143 Joe Nossek =96 bottom part of "k" is missing from his name on the back.A printing oddity. 154 Jim Britton =96 missing the "m" & part of the "b" in "September" on thefirst bio line. Another printing goof. 208 Don Clendenon =96 On Expos var. =96 last "n" in last name (on the back)mostly missing. On Houston var. =96 last "n" hand-written & is backward. 230 Rusty Staub =96 There is a "traded" line on the last line of his bio, even though the front of the card has his new team. Unless someone discoversa version without a "traded" line, it's another printing oddity. On to the 1968 set: 158 (WS Game), 252 (Angels Team),401 (Mets Team) & 511 (Bill Kelso) =96 there is no copyright on the back bottom of any of these. On the team cards there's really no room, but Kelso appears to be the only player card on the set without a copyright, even though there's room. 490 (Super Stars) Mine has a hand-written "68" in lower right of of the boxon the back. At first, second & third glances, it doesn't look or feel like someone (i.e. a previous owner)has written it on the card; to me there's no indentation at all, which led me to wonder if this was a Topps printing goof. But the backs of the ones I've seen on eBay for comparison are clean - no "68" at all. So I guess whoever wrote the "68" on mine did a great jobon it - BUT - please check yours & make sure I haven't stumbled onto something that really exists in the world of variations. That's all - discuss! Tom Housley ================= To: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 15:50:09 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Anybody willing to let me raid their OPC stash/sets in progress? I'm really trying to put these OPC sets away. I've spent the afternoon eyeballing sets in progress (Austin, Talbot, TJ)...if anybody is willing to trade any of these, please let me know. Will trade in your favor! Let me know! 1965 OPC 207 Rose 209 217 218 233 236 245 247 250 Mays 251 255 266 271 280 1966 OPC 13 28 Niekro 36 Hunter 67 70 Yaz 98 100 Koufax 110 Banks 120 160 ford 175 177 1967 OPC 55 Drysdale 57 Jarvis 60 Aparicio 63 Card Clubbers 73 Staub 117 Brandon 140Stargell 1968 OPC 2-4 10 16 27 37 58 86 100 113 122 123 130 136 140 144 145 152 154-155 157 182 187 190 192 1970 OPC 164 197 230 266 296 298 332 349 352 364 378 392 417 442 491 1974 OPC 15 16 36 43 73-74 83 90 105 114 126 146 159 160 175 201 206-208 211 215 267 277 307 334 336 341 350 354 427 445 453 463 473 484-485 491-492 496 508 511 553 569 600 603-604 620 628 643 654 1976 OPC 41 58 61 116 117 121 130 146 173 188 229 240 271 312 333 379 392 441 456 462 480 529 541 587 592 644 650 659 ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:01:12 -0500 To: Tom Housley From: Edward Watts Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities Hi Tom, I am missing Staub and 68 #490, but all of the others are the same as yoursexcept for 1969 Jim Britton. All the letters of September are intact on my Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:28 PM, "Tom Housley" wrote: > No need to panic - I haven't discovered any new variations - but while I was re-binderizing my '68 & '69 Topps sets (new binders, new Ultra-pro pages, & adding variations next to their non-variation brethren, rather than atthe end), I noticed some interesting items on the backs: > 1969 Topps notes: > 111 Johnny Morris =E2=93 back says "drafter from Orioles". Not "drafted" - "drafter". Unless someone discovers a "drafted" version, this is a newUER that I haven't seen listed before; > 135 Tommy Davis =E2=93 there's a period after "below" (2nd line in biobox), right in the middle of the sentence.) Another UER. > 143 Joe Nossek =E2=93 bottom part of "k" is missing from his name on the back. A printing oddity. > 154 Jim Britton =E2=93 missing the "m" & part of the "b" in "September" on the first bio line. Another printing goof. > 208 Don Clendenon =E2=93 On Expos var. =E2=93 last "n" in last name(on the back) mostly missing. On Houston var. =E2=93 last "n" hand-written & is backward. > 230 Rusty Staub =E2=93 There is a "traded" line on the last line of his bio, even though the front of the card has his new team. Unless someone discovers a version without a "traded" line, it's another printing oddity. > On to the 1968 set: > 158 (WS Game), 252 (Angels Team),401 (Mets Team) & 511 (Bill Kelso) > =E2=93 there is no copyright on the back bottom of any of these. On the team cards there's really no room, but Kelso appears to be the only player card on the set without a copyright, even though there's room. > 490 (Super Stars) Mine has a hand-written "68" in lower right of of the box on the back. At first, second & third glances, it doesn't look or feel like someone (i.e. a previous owner)has written it on the card; to me there's no indentation at all, which led me to wonder if this was a Topps printing goof. But the backs of the ones I've seen on eBay for comparison are clean - no "68" at all. So I guess whoever wrote the "68" on mine did a great job on it - BUT - please check yours & make sure I haven't stumbled onto something that really exists in the world of variations. > That's all - discuss! > Tom Housley ================= To: "Tom Housley" , Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:17:43 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities my '69 Britton has the missing letters. that is 2-1 :) my '68 super stars has no '68 on the back. ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Watts To: Tom Housley Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities Hi Tom, I am missing Staub and 68 #490, but all of the others are the same as yours except for 1969 Jim Britton. All the letters of September are intact onmy Ed Watts Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:28 PM, "Tom Housley" wrote: No need to panic - I haven't discovered any new variations - but while I was re-binderizing my '68 & '69 Topps sets (new binders, new Ultra-pro pages, & adding variations next to their non-variation brethren, rather than at the end), I noticed some interesting items on the backs: 1969 Topps notes: 111 Johnny Morris =E2=93 back says "drafter from Orioles". Not "drafted" - "drafter". Unless someone discovers a "drafted" version, this is a new UER that I haven't seen listed before; 135 Tommy Davis =E2=93 there's a period after "below" (2nd line in bio box), right in the middle of the sentence.) Another UER. 143 Joe Nossek =E2=93 bottom part of "k" is missing from his name onthe back. A printing oddity. 154 Jim Britton =E2=93 missing the "m" & part of the "b" in "September" on the first bio line. Another printing goof. 208 Don Clendenon =E2=93 On Expos var. =E2=93 last "n" in last name (on the back) mostly missing. On Houston var. =E2=93 last "n" hand-written & is backward. 230 Rusty Staub =E2=93 There is a "traded" line on the last line of his bio, even though the front of the card has his new team. Unless someonediscovers a version without a "traded" line, it's another printing oddity. On to the 1968 set: 158 (WS Game), 252 (Angels Team),401 (Mets Team) & 511 (Bill Kelso) =E2=93 there is no copyright on the back bottom of any of these. On the team cards there's really no room, but Kelso appears to be the only player card on the set without a copyright, even though there's room. 490 (Super Stars) Mine has a hand-written "68" in lower right of of thebox on the back. At first, second & third glances, it doesn't look or feellike someone (i.e. a previous owner)has written it on the card; to me there's no indentation at all, which led me to wonder if this was a Topps printing goof. But the backs of the ones I've seen on eBay for comparison are clean - no "68" at all. So I guess whoever wrote the "68" on mine did a greatjob on it - BUT - please check yours & make sure I haven't stumbled onto something that really exists in the world of variations. That's all - discuss! Tom Housley ================= To: Tom Housley , Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:00:35 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities ================= To: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:27:52 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath Auction--Final Update (?) This will likely be the final update in the Distelrath Auction. Get your bids in now! High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) card lot of 1970 Topps Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Topps UK Baseball partial set (59/88) - includes 12 HoFers Topps Super #27 Claude Osteen Topps Lineage Giant #TG4 Joe Mauer "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Topps Football Bucks #14 Yale Lary & #40 Milt Plum (both Detroit) - both a bit o/c about 95/5 top to bottom otherwise nice shape 70/71 #236 Bobby Orr All-Star Car G- (a few creases) ================= To: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:03:29 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Re: '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities Tom Housley, Ed Watts, et al Congrats on finding a noticeable printing difference on 1969 #154 Britton (September vs Septe er) Mine is the (Septe er) version. George Vrechek ================= To: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:35:01 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Final Auction Results Here are the final auction results. Looks like Aaron Shirley won the most lots...and JSG wins the prize for most $. Total bids (about) $615. Still waiting for confirmation from the OBC treasurer on payment details, but payments will likely go directly there. I'll send an update later todayhopefully with payment details. Donors can ship the lots out. If anyone has any questions, let me know. High Bidder 1972 Topps #37--Yaz (OBC condition--rounded corners and a Ed Watts 1972 Topps #51&52--Killebrew and Killebrew in action--rounded corners and creases Ed Watts 1972 Topps #90--Tony Perez (looks to be EX or VG/EX) &132--Joe Morgan (looks to be EX or VG/EX with one touched corner) Ed Watts 1915 Cracker Jack #29 Gregg (Red Sox) No side or top borders, but nice otherwise Mac Wubben 1974-75 Loblaws Hockey stamps--nearly 200 different. The entire set is only 324 stamps, so this lot comprises over 60% of the set. Each stamp is 1 3/4" x 2 1/4" and depicts a player from one of the 18 NHL teams. Included in this lot are stamps of Bobby Orr, Guy LaFleur, Stan Mikita, Brad Park, Bobby Clarke, Phil Esposito, Denis Potvin, Tony Esposito, Gil Perreault, and Ken Dryden among others. Thereis a corresponding book for the stamps that is occasionally available on eBay--that is NOT part of this auction lot. Average condition is excellent--few if any creases. Peter Mead cards from the 1954 New York Journal American set: Don Liddle, Davey Williams and Ruben Gomez. For those unfamiliar with this fragile set--it contained cards from the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants. Each card has their representitive team's schedule on the reverse. The front has grainy pictures of the players and contest information. All three cards grade in the neighbhood of good--no creases but some dents and tiny clipped corners, and all three have a pin hole center top. Topps Matle/Boyer AS card (#160) PSA1 (pr-fr) of Fame Postcard of Robin Roberts autographed Diamond Star #87 O'Neil (nice card with a diagonal crease) card lot of 1970 Topps Stars and Team Lot: This lot features a few high number team cards, the All-Time Greats subset (missing Gehrig), and a few other stars of the day. 471 Ty Cobb (Ex) 473 Hank Aaron (NrMt) 474 Babe Ruth (Vg) 475 Ty Cobb (Vg) 476 Walter Johnson (Vg) 477 Cy Young (NrMt) 478 Walter Johnson (Gd) 500 Oakland A=92s (Ex) 503 Phil Niekro (NrMt) 521 Atlanta Braves (NrMt) 530 Jim Kaat (NrMt) 536 Philadelphia Phillies (ExMt) 545 Orlando Cepeda (Gd) 556 New York Yankees (Ex) 560 Frank Howard (NrMt) 569 Walt Alston (NrMt) 576 Montreal Expos (Vg) 1975 Minis - all mis-cut for the MC collectors out there. There are a couple of HOFers and they are all real beauties S & S Game: Woody English PSA EX 5 Topps Super #35 Felipe Alou PSA NM 7 Topps Super #40 Tommy Helms PSA NM 7 Topps Super #9 Vic Davalillo SGC 86 Topps Super #45 Willie Davis SGC 80 Topps Super #44 Curt Blefary SGC 80 Topps Look and See (VG) #20 Albert Einstein Topps Look and See (VG) #21 Ben Franklin Topps Look and See (VG) #33 Oliver H Perry (front of card) Matthew C. Perry (Oliver's little brother on the back of card)....very interesting!! Topps Look and See (VG) #35 Matthew Ridgway Topps Look and See (VG) #41 Dwight D. Eisenhower Topps Look and See (VG) #65 Mahatma Ghandi Topps Look and See (VG) #75 Elias Howe Topps Look and See (VG) #87 Marie Curie Topps Look and See (VG) #88 Roald Amundsen 28 years of vintage Topps: 1952 #115 George Munger 1953 #102 Connie Ryan 1954 #193 Johnny Hopp 1955 #14 Jim Finigan 1956 #53 Arnold Portocarrero (gray back) 1957 #47 Don Blasingame 1958 #134 Phillies TC 1959 #425 Del Crandall 1960 #177 Johnny Kucks 1961 #21 Zorro Versalles 1962 #19 Ray Washburn 1963 #98 George Thomas 1964 #41 McCovey-Wagner "Friendly Foes" 1965 #91 Cubs TC 1966 #56 Sandy Valdespino 1967 #520 Max Alvis 1968 #64 Jim Merritt 1969 #91 Al Dark 1970 #432 5th series CL unmarked 1971 #622 Joe Lahoud 1972 #92 '71 AL ERA Ldrs 1973 #633 Ike Brown 1974 #110 Billy Williams 1975 #335 Jim Palmer 1976 #470 Bobby Murcer 1977 #390 Dave Winfield 1978 #703 Jack Morris RC 1979 #100 Tom Seaver Play Ball! #7 Harry Danning poor to p/f W.A. Latham (NY Giants) Nice looking Topps Frank Robinson #100 VG 1940 Playballs 18 g wof, 166 vg Post Group (18 cards) - 1961 #99 Pascual (Minneapolis variation), 1962 #133 Alou, 1963-16 total, 14 diff and 2 dupes Seaver lot: 1973 T tipton, 1977 T, 1979, 1980 are all decent with most slightly off-center Gibson bobblehead (in Pittsburgh Crawfords uniform)=85Given away at Pirates 1970 OPC cards - Poor to VG, with most being P or G. #s 4 11 18 25 35 78 89 97 102 105 113 119 121 123 133 168 177 179 188 203 204 208 219 258 362 479 486 512 525 1959 team cards (vgish) 94 Chicago WS, 172 KC A's, 419 Braves Topps Coin #146 Ron Santo All Star Bowman Football 89 Darrell Hogan scratchoffs: Red Centers - Aaron, Bosman, McCarver, Perez, White Centers - Allen, Hegan, Marichal, Spencer, Stargell Topps starter set: 70 cards #4 - 525; HL- Wilhelm, Jenkins, Houk, Lee, Buckner RC, Santo AS Topps Starter Set: 82 cards #1 - 654; HL - Brock, Blue, Martin MGR, Luzinski, 1977 OPC, #s 44 56 60 80 (palmer) 106 134 146 159 160 161 174 203 212 228 251 1973 gehrig all time great (missing from geno's lot). sgc 84 "Tipton-mint" 1953 Topps: 038 060 163 182 185 5 '70-71 Topps NBA cards: 056 127 129 131 136 -- a couple with creases but decent overall... OPC #260 Johnny Bench NRMT little off center left to right OPC #300 Reggie Jackson NRMT Off center left to right Shakey's Pizza #15 Arky Vaughan EXMT wheaties stamp Ken McBride (angels) EXMT Wheaties stamp Bobby Richardson EXMT Topps UK Baseball partial set (59/88) - includes 12 HoFers Topps Super #27 Claude Osteen Topps Lineage Giant #TG4 Joe Mauer "OBC Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Scotland at The National - Chicago 2011" cap/lapel pin Topps Football Bucks #14 Yale Lary & #40 Milt Plum (both Detroit) - both a bit o/c about 95/5 top to bottom otherwise nice shape 70/71 #236 Bobby Orr All-Star Car G- (a few creases) ================= To: Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:40:35 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Distelrath Auction Payment info All auction winners...send your $ to the OBC treasurer Bob Donaldson: Paypal (gift option preferred) to treasurer@oldbaseball.com or snail mail to;Bob Donaldson123 Westminster AveArlington, MA 02474 It's an honor system...don't want to have to track anyone down. ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:50:51 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Tom Housley From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities I have two versions of154 Jim Britton =E2=93 missing the "m" & part of the "b" in "September" on the first bio line. And "September" with no missing All the others are the same as Tom'sJohn Stamperhttp://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Sun, 1/15/12, Tom Housley wrote: From: Tom Housley Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '68 & '69 Topps sets - oddities To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, January 15, 2012, 9:28 AM No need to panic - I haven't discovered any new variations - but while I was re-binderizing my '68 & '69 Topps sets (new binders, new Ultra-pro pages, & adding variations next to their non-variation brethren, rather than at the end), I noticed some interesting items on the backs: 1969 Topps notes: 111 Johnny Morris =E2=93 back says "drafter from Orioles". Not "drafted"- "drafter". Unless someone discovers a "drafted" version, this is a new UER that I haven't seen listed before; 135 Tommy Davis =E2=93 there's a period after "below" (2nd line in bio box), right in the middle of the sentence.) Another UER. 143 Joe Nossek =E2=93 bottom part of "k" is missing from his name on theback. A printing oddity. 154 Jim Britton =E2=93 missing the "m" & part of the "b" in "September" on the first bio line. Another printing goof. 208 Don Clendenon =E2=93 On Expos var. =E2=93 last "n" in last name (on the back) mostly missing. On Houston var. =E2=93 last "n" hand-written & is backward. 230 Rusty Staub =E2=93 There is a "traded" line on the last line of his bio, even though the front of the card has his new team. Unless someone discovers a version without a "traded" line, it's another printing oddity. On to the 1968 set: 158 (WS Game), 252 (Angels Team),401 (Mets Team) & 511 (Bill Kelso) =E2=93 there is no copyright on the back bottom of any of these. On theteam cards there's really no room, but Kelso appears to be the only playercard on the set without a copyright, even though there's room. 490 (Super Stars) Mine has a hand-written "68" in lower right of of the boxon the back. At first, second & third glances, it doesn't look or feel like someone (i.e. a previous owner)has written it on the card; to me there's no indentation at all, which led me to wonder if this was a Topps printing goof. But the backs of the ones I've seen on eBay for comparison are clean - no "68" at all. So I guess whoever wrote the "68" on mine did a great jobon it - BUT - please check yours & make sure I haven't stumbled onto something that really exists in the world of variations. That's all - discuss! Tom Housley ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 22:11:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rjsharks" Subject: My rare chance to meet up with some OBCers I have not rambled much since joining the group and it is nice to have a chance Alison(my wife) and I went to Las Vegas Friday through Monday for a soccer tournament I was playing in. I am not really qualified to play on this team and it was not really qualified to be in the tournament apparently. But the trip had a few highlights. On the last game I was playing defender and made a diving play to stop a goal. Good thing because losing 5-0 would have been bad. Also won my bet on the 49ers and my last gambling move was to bet on my wife's and my lucky number on roulette and won. What was great was to meet up with Lynn Miller again. He came to my game and watched us get crushed. It was nice to hang out a bit and he gave me some cards. And even though he didn't get to meet my wife, he did get to meet my brother and it is nice to have my family meet one of my new friends. On Monday Rich Niessen met up with me at my hotel and that was the first time I got to meet this very generous good guy. I also met his wife and she is really swell. Good for Rich. We had breakfast that Rich paid for and swapped some cards. Alison met up with us and we all gambled a bit. Anyhow, I wanted to share my story. It is really cool to meet people from this group and Lynn and Rich are great guys. Randy Welk ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:00:50 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Looking for a 53 Mantle Looks like a decent price http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=145162 ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:54:12 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: World Baseball Coaches' Convention, Uncasville CT For those of you in the Connecticut area who may be inclined to attend. Started yesterday, goes through tomorrow. Sorry, just came across this. https://www.baseballcoachesclinic.com/index.php ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:30:32 +0000 From: John Scott Gray Subject: Insurance Appraisal My friends, I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly believes that I should have the value of my cardcollection evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to me,to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any suggestions on what kinds of things one should lookfor or avoid in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! Be happy, John Scott Gray ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 10:17:29 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android ================= To: "Jim Beauchemin", glenncodere@yahoo.com, Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:01:50 -0800 From: "wite3@aol.com" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Glenn and everyone...for years I have had my insurance on my collection with collectinsure.com. They are inexpensive, easy to deal with, and you can value your own collection. Many options to choose from as well including a monthly increase in coverage if you buy a lot, travel insurance if you take pieces of your collection anywhere, even purchase and selling insurance if something is lost in the mail. I highly recommend them...I have a fairly large collection with some irreplaceable items and it is less than 750 a year to insure. Cheaper than my wifes jewelry insurance rider! Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -----Original message----- From: Jim Beauchemin To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC Ramblings , "meyergray@msn.com" Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 18:28:23 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:08:58 -0500 (EST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: considering a new set to add. info wanted andy's vintage vintage wants gave me an idea. my dad has been gone for over 41 years now, and his 100th birthday occurs in 2019. i thought it might be a fun project to collect a set from that year and hopefully complete by his 100th b-day.. the only two sets i saw that i had ever heard of was a zeenut PCL set, which i understand are very tough, and a 1919-1921 W-514 set. i think these are strip cards, and the VGs list in the SCD for about $8, at least in the 2002 edition. i think 7 of the chicago "black sox" are in the set. does anyone have experience with collecting this set? is an attainable goal to complete the set in 7 years at a reasonable cost? do you only collect the strips in tact, or is it generally "acceptable" to collect unattached cards? am i correct in assuming that there are three players per strip? any help with info would be appreciated. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB ================= To: , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:31:51 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in that it is a I personally, think insurance would be for something you really couldn=92t recover from losing =96 my and my wife=92s life, at least while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). Here=92s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my estimation, add a few extras and bump up a =93typical=94 OBC collection=92s value at $15k. Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think might be on the cheap side =96 starting when you are thirty, by the time you are seventy you would have spent $10k insuring your $15k collection. I=92d rather the extra money go into my collection rather than insuring it. My 2 cents From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Scott Gray ; To: OBC Ramblings ; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM My friends, I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly believes that I should have the value of my card collection evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to me, to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any suggestions on what kinds of things one should look for or avoid in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! Be happy, John Scott Gray No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: 01/20/12 ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 (PST) To: 'OBC Ramblings' From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I'm sureeveryone's home owners insurance is different but I checked into having a specialRyderto cover my collection years ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents From: Bob Donaldson To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ;meyergray@msn.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in that it is ano-brainer. I personally, think insurance would be for something you really couldn=E2=99t recover from losing =E2=93 my and my wife=E2=99s life, at least while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). Here=E2=99s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my estimation, add a few extrasand bump up a =E2=9Ctypical=E2=9D OBC collection=E2=99s value at $15k. Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think might be on the cheap side =E2=93 starting when you are thirty, by the time you are seventy you would have spent $10k insuring your $15k collection. I=E2=99d rather the extra money go into my collection rather than insuring it. My 2 cents From:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Scott Gray ; To: OBC Ramblings ; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM My friends, I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly believes that I should have the value of my card collection evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to me, to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any suggestions on what kinds of things one should look for or avoid in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! Be happy, John Scott Gray No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: 01/20/12 ================= To: , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:40:35 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Neat topic. I tend to agree that for most of us it would not be worth it. However, given that, I wonder what ideas folks have come up with to reduce the likelihood of losing their collection to a thief in the first place. Perhaps locking it up in the house, or storing in some non-obvious place, or I suspect that keeping binders in a prominent place in a bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside, may not be the best idea. But what else do folks do? Or do most of us just not worry about it? Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I'm sure everyone's home owners insurance is different but I checked into having a special Ryder to cover my collection years ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents From: Bob Donaldson To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ;meyergray@msn.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in that it is ano-brainer. I personally, think insurance would be for something you really couldn=92t recover from losing =96 my and my wife=92s life, at least while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). Here=92s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my estimation, add a few extras and bump up a =93typical=94 OBC collection=92s value at $15k. Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think might be on the cheap side =96 starting when you are thirty, by the time you are seventyyou would have spent $10k insuring your $15k collection. I=92d rather theextra money go into my collection rather than insuring it. My 2 cents From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Scott Gray ; To: OBC Ramblings ; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM My friends, I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly believes that I should have the value of my cardcollection evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to me,to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any suggestions on what kinds of things one should lookfor or avoid in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! Be happy, John Scott Gray No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: 01/20/12 ================= To: Richard Dingman , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:34:02 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Richard,I'll tell you what I do. I keep my binders in a prominent place ina bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside. Haven't had anything stolen yet (knock on wood). Every now and then I'll take a binder of the shelf and look through it. However, now I'm thinking about maybe re-labeling my 1952 binder as 1988 and the 1953 binder as 1989 just in case. To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brightair@msn.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:40:35 -0500 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Neat topic. I tend to agree that for most of us it would not be worth it. However, given that, I wonder what ideas folks have come up with to reduce the likelihood of losing their collection to a thief in the first place. Perhaps locking it up in the house, or storing in some non-obvious place, or I suspect that keeping binders in a prominent place in a bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside, may not be the best idea. But what else do folks do? Or do most of us just not worry about it? Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I'm sure everyone's home owners insurance is different but I checked into having a special Ryder to cover my collection years ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents From: Bob Donaldson To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ;meyergray@msn.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in that it is ano-brainer. I personally, think insurance would be for something you really couldn=92t recover from losing =96 my and my wife=92s life, at least while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). Here=92s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my estimation, add a few extras and bump up a =93typical=94 OBC collection=92s value at $15k. Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think might be on the cheap side =96 starting when you are thirty, by the time you are seventyyou would have spent $10k insuring your $15k collection. I=92d rather theextra money go into my collection rather than insuring it. My 2 cents From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Scott Gray ; To: OBC Ramblings ; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM My friends, I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly believes that I should have the value of my cardcollection evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to me,to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any suggestions on what kinds of things one should lookfor or avoid in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! Be happy, John Scott Gray No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: 01/20/12 ================= To: richard dingman Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:47:18 -0800 From: GRANT RAINSLEY Subject: Insurance Appraisal Content-Disposition: inline The Canuck approach.....I do have my stuff in binders that look like photo albums..........and I have them in 3 or 4 different places in the house, soI would be unlikely to lose them all if the worst happened. The binders are tagged with something like "Family Photos 1962" and similar........uhhhh......variations.... on that theme. That being said, I figure if anyone breaks in and snags my stuff it is because they already knew I had it. I do make a habit of not publicizing what I have. I looked into the insurance bit too, but it turned out NOT insuring it pays for itself in just a few years. And as we all know, the #1 priority for insurance companies is taking your money, and #2 is finding a reason not to pay out, so it is risky anyways, not a sure thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: richard dingman Date: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:40 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Neat topic. > I tend to agree that for most of us it would not be worth it. > However, given that, I wonder what ideas folks have come up with > to reduce the likelihood of losing their collection to a thief > in the first place. > Perhaps locking it up in the house, or storing in some non- > obvious place, or what? > I suspect that keeping binders in a prominent place in a > bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside, may not > be the best idea. But what else do folks do? Or do > most of us just not worry about it? > Richard D > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > I'm sure everyone's home owners insurance is different but I > checked into having a special Ryder to cover my collection years > ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple > hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered > under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents > From: Bob Donaldson > To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ramblings@yahoogroups.com>; meyergray@msn.com > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > Glenn, > I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in > that it is a no-brainer. > I personally, think insurance would be for something you really > couldn=92t recover from losing =96 my and my wife=92s life, at least > while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for > the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). > Here=92s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a > complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G > condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my > estimation, add a few extras and bump up a =93typical=94 OBC > collection=92s value at $15k. > Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think > might be on the cheap side =96 starting when you are thirty, by > the time you are seventy you would have spent $10k insuring your > $15k collection. I=92d rather the extra money go into my > collection rather than insuring it. > My 2 cents > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC- > Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM > To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial > adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, > there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with > the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. > Bummer. > Glenn > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > From: John Scott Gray ; > To: OBC Ramblings ; > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM > My friends, > I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had > never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection > did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly > believes that I should have the value of my card collection > evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to > me, to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over > and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good > candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any > suggestions on what kinds of things one should look for or avoid > in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! > Be happy, > JSG > John Scott Gray > meyergray@msn.com > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: > 01/20/12 ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 23:59:02 -0500 (EST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Content-Language: en insurance companies work on the law of large numbers. they write no type of policy unless it is profitable. if you insure your life, the odds are that between the premiums you pay and the money that the insurance company earns on your premiums before you die is greater than the amount they pay out to you. it has to work that way, or they wont write the policy. they insure enough lives that on average, it has to be true. the same is true if you insure your house, your car, your medical bills, or your income via disability. they are always going to collect more than they pay out, either because less claims are made, or people drop the policy without ever having collected. how many of you dont insure you house, your car or your life? i will bet that for most of us, the premiums we pay for homeowners and auto insurance, at least, over our lifetimes, will be less than we collect. it may not be worth it to insure something only worth $10,000. that's up to the individual to decide for themselves. it's like having a $500 deductible on your car instead of $25. you decide what you can self-insure. but to say you will probably pay more in premium than your collection is worth, and therefore is not a good idea, while it may be true, it is true of ALL risks we insure. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/) Member: OCT, OBC, DT, TB In a message dated 1/20/2012 10:47:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, grains@shaw.ca writes: The Canuck approach.....I do have my stuff in binders that look like photo albums..........and I have them in 3 or 4 different places in the house, so I would be unlikely to lose them all if the worst happened. The binders are tagged with something like "Family Photos 1962" and similar........uhhhh......variations.... on that theme. That being said, I figure if anyone breaks in and snags my stuff it is because they already knew I had it. I do make a habit of not publicizing what I have. I looked into the insurance bit too, but it turned out NOT insuring it pays for itself in just a few years. And as we all know, the #1 priority for insurance companies is taking your money, and #2 is finding a reason not to pay out, so it is risky anyways, not a sure thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: richard dingman Date: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:40 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Neat topic. > I tend to agree that for most of us it would not be worth it. > However, given that, I wonder what ideas folks have come up with > to reduce the likelihood of losing their collection to a thief > in the first place. > Perhaps locking it up in the house, or storing in some non- > obvious place, or what? > I suspect that keeping binders in a prominent place in a > bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside, may not > be the best idea. But what else do folks do? Or do > most of us just not worry about it? > Richard D > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > I'm sure everyone's home owners insurance is different but I > checked into having a special Ryder to cover my collection years > ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple > hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered > under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents > From: Bob Donaldson > To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ramblings@yahoogroups.com>; meyergray@msn.com > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > Glenn, > I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in > that it is a no-brainer. > I personally, think insurance would be for something you really > couldn=E2=99t recover from losing =E2=93 my and my wife=E2=99s life, at least > while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for > the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). > Here=E2=99s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a > complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G > condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my > estimation, add a few extras and bump up a =E2=9Ctypical=E2=9D OBC > collection=E2=99s value at $15k. > Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think > might be on the cheap side =E2=93 starting when you are thirty, by > the time you are seventy you would have spent $10k insuring your > $15k collection. I=E2=99d rather the extra money go into my > collection rather than insuring it. > My 2 cents > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC- > Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM > To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial > adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, > there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with > the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. > Bummer. > Glenn > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > From: John Scott Gray ; > To: OBC Ramblings ; > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM > My friends, > I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had > never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection > did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly > believes that I should have the value of my card collection > evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to > me, to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over > and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good > candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any > suggestions on what kinds of things one should look for or avoid > in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! > Be happy, > JSG > John Scott Gray > meyergray@msn.com > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: > 01/20/12 ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 00:09:35 -0500 (EST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Content-Language: en My insurance agent says it would cost $1 per $100 of value every year. Less than jewelry but if I have an inventory of what I have, they would believe me for up to about $20,000. I think one cool option if I had the room was to buy a big old safe. About 6 feet tall and 3 feet wide. Fireproof, waterproof, and too big to walk away with. I hear they cost about $800. Not enough room for a bunch of binders but enough for the expensive stuff. I think I am talking myself into it. Randy Welk In a message dated 1/20/2012 7:40:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, brightair@msn.com writes: Neat topic. I tend to agree that for most of us it would not be worth it. However, given that, I wonder what ideas folks have come up with to reduce the likelihood of losing their collection to a thief in the first place. Perhaps locking it up in the house, or storing in some non-obvious place, or what? I suspect that keeping binders in a prominent place in a bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside, may not be the best idea. But what else do folks do? Or do most of us just not worry about it? Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I'm sure everyone's home owners insurance is different but I checked into having a special Ryder to cover my collection years ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents From: Bob Donaldson To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ; meyergray@msn.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in that it is a no-brainer. I personally, think insurance would be for something you really couldn=E2=99t recover from losing =E2=93 my and my wife=E2=99s life, at least while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). Here=E2=99s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a complete of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my estimation, add a few extras and bump up a typical=E2=9D OBC collection=E2=99s value at $15k. Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think might be on the cheap side =E2=93 starting when you are thirty, by the time you areseventy you would have spent $10k insuring your $15k collection. I=E2=99d rather extra money go into my collection rather than insuring it. My 2 cents From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: John Scott Gray ; To: OBC Ramblings ; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM My friends, I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly believes that I should have the value of my card collection evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to me, to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any suggestions on what kinds of things one should look for or avoid in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! Be happy, John Scott Gray No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - _www.avg.com_ (http://www.avg.com/) Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: 01/20/12 ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:11:11 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Andy Subject: Re: considering a new set to add. info wanted The 1919 Zeenut set would be almost impossible to complete. Besides about two dozen ratifies, it also includes the Dazzy Vance rookie and a card for Fatty Arbuckle the famous Hollywood actor. Fatty was an owner of one of the teams. I worked on this set for almost 10 years and still needed about 20, and I only ever saw one Arbuckle card available for sale...and it went for big The W514 set is completable. There's a Joe Jackson plus other Black Sox andother key HOFers, but I never had any problems finding particular cards. There Re a cole of interesting team change variations, that are tough but not impossible. As strip cards go, I think this set is one of the better looking Sent from my iPad ================= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:53:29 -0600 From: "George and Susan Vrechek" Subject: Re: Insurance Appraisal and card$ Randy Welk's info sounded about right to me eg $1 per $100 for insurance, but the starting point was JSG's concern about an appraisal. I think the answer is that you can self-appraise up to a certain dollar amount. One precaution that seems affordable and hasn't been mentioned is picking out the most valuable cards and sticking them in a bank safe deposit box. The annual cost would seem to be less than insurance or buying a safe. Negatives are that they remain uninsured for water or smoke damage AND you don't get to see them very often unless you schedule frequent visitation trips. My guess is that 80% of a collection is in less than 20% of the cards, maybe even 90%/10%. I happened to be talking to the late Lionel Carter on the phone when scam artists came to his house. He left the phone to check on them and a few minutes later they had walked out with about $300K worth of cards strictly by chance. Through the hobby network, the thieves were found and the cards returned intact! He also had at least a million or two dollars worth of cards sitting on a book shelf, but the thieves didn't know what was there. His wife insisted that he dispose of the collection. He did a few months before he died. For Lionel it wasn't about the money, it was the cards he George Vrechek ================= To: , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:41:21 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Insurance Appraisal and card$ I use collectables insurance agency (CIA)...they are around 50 cents per $100. You don't need an official appraisal either. Generally, you should self insure small losses...stuff like postal insurance is a bad bet...and car/life/home insurance is a good bet. Although the expected payoff is negative, not having to bear the risk is worth something. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:53:29 -0600 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Insurance Appraisal and card$ Randy Welk=92s info sounded about right to me eg $1 per $100 for insurance, but the starting point was JSG=92s concern about an appraisal. I think the answer is that you can self-appraise up to a certain dollar amount. One precaution that seems affordable and hasn=92t been mentioned is pickingout the most valuable cards and sticking them in a bank safe deposit box. The annual cost would seem to be less than insurance or buying a safe. Negatives are that they remain uninsured for water or smoke damage AND you don=92t get to see them very often unless you schedule frequent visitation trips. My guess is that 80% of a collection is in less than 20% of the cards, maybe even 90%/10%. I happened to be talking to the late Lionel Carter on the phone when scam artists came to his house. He left the phone to check on them and a few minutes later they had walked out with about $300K worth of cards strictly by chance. Through the hobby network, the thieves were found and the cards returned intact! He also had at least a million or two dollars worth of cards sitting on a book shelf, but the thieves didn=92t know what was there. His wife insisted that he dispose of the collection. He did a few months beforehe died. For Lionel it wasn=92t about the money, it was the cards he missed. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:37:59 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal I do not insure my collection specifically, however my Homeowners policywill coverloses up to a point. I did in factget reimbursed several years whensome cards came up missing but it was just a few totaling about $450. suspect it was ateenagego-fer for a building contractor but no solid proof. At any rate my Insurance Agent submitted the claim under the "mysterious disappearance" clause. I keep my cards in a separate room in the basement.The doorcan be locked but I generally only lock it when we are gone formore then a day or so. I keep my HOFers, RCs and higher dollar cards in an old apartment size refrigerator that Ihave a padlock on. Most of mycollection is in prominently displayed and well labeled. Age anda few significant losseshas convinced me that most of my"stuff"is that important and that the only real security is knowing that there is none. C`est La Vie! "we keep what we give away!" From: GRANT RAINSLEY To: richard dingman Cc: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, January 20, 2012 11:47:18 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal The Canuck approach.....I do have my stuff in binders that look like photo albums..........and I have them in 3 or 4 different places in the house, soI would be unlikely to lose them all if the worst happened. The binders are tagged with something like "Family Photos 1962" and similar........uhhhh......variations.... on that theme. That being said, I figure if anyone breaks in and snags my stuff it is because they already knew had it. I do make a habit of not publicizing what I have. I looked into the insurance bit too, but it turned out NOT insuring it pays for itself in just few years. And as we all know, the #1 priority for insurance companies is taking your money, and #2 isfinding a reason not to pay out, so it is risky anyways, not a sure thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: richard dingman Date: Friday, January 20, 2012 7:40 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal To: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Neat topic. > I tend to agree that for most of us it would not be worth it. > However, given that, I wonder what ideas folks have come up with > to reduce the likelihood of losing their collection to a thief > in the first place. > Perhaps locking it up in the house, or storing in some non- > obvious place, or what? > I suspect that keeping binders in a prominent place in a > bookshelf with labeled spines announcing what is inside, may not > be the best idea. But what else do folks do? Or do > most of us just not worry about it? > Richard D > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: rick.lyons22@yahoo.com > Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:34:53 -0800 > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > I'm sure everyone's home owners insurance is different but I > checked into having a special Ryder to cover my collection years > ago and the agent said it would have to be worth a couple > hundred thousand to be worth it because it would be covered > under the home owners anyway. my 2 cents > From: Bob Donaldson > To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; 'OBC Ramblings' ramblings@yahoogroups.com>; meyergray@msn.com > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:31 PM > Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > Glenn, > I would 100% disagree with your financial advisor, at least in > that it is a no-brainer. > I personally, think insurance would be for something you really > couldn=E2=99t recover from losing =E2=93 my and my wife=E2=99s life, at least > while we have a young child. My home, and auto (more for > the potential damage it could do to property and life in an accident). > Here=E2=99s something to think about. Using the SCD 2009 book a > complete run of Topps regular series cards from 57-74 in G > condition (using =BD the VG price) would be about $12k by my > estimation, add a few extras and bump up a =E2=9Ctypical=E2=9D OBC > collection=E2=99s value at $15k. > Now assume you insure said collection for $250, which I think > might be on the cheap side =E2=93 starting when you are thirty, by > the time you are seventy you would have spent $10k insuring your > $15k collection. I=E2=99d rather the extra money go into my > collection rather than insuring it. > My 2 cents > Bob > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC- > Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:17 PM > To: OBC Ramblings; meyergray@msn.com > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > I would love to get my collection insured, and our financial > adviser has suggested that doing so is a no-brainer. Problem is, > there ain't nobody in the UK who could value the collection with > the authority that would be accepted by an insurer. > Bummer. > Glenn > Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android > From: John Scott Gray ; > To: OBC Ramblings ; > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance Appraisal > Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:30:32 PM > My friends, > I know this conversation has come up in the past, but I had > never really paid close attention, thinking that my collection > did not really warrant it. However, my wife strongly > believes that I should have the value of my card collection > evaluated for insurance purposes. The first step, seems to > me, to have an expert in the area (central Michigan) come over > and take a look. Any ideas as to who might be a good > candidate and how much this kind of thing costs? Also, any > suggestions on what kinds of things one should look for or avoid > in insuring a collection? Thanks for the info! > Be happy, > JSG > John Scott Gray > meyergray@msn.com > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: > 01/20/12 > = ================= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:50:17 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: anyone know Randy Parsons? He wants to send me cards, and with all this insurance talk... I'm hesitant to give out an address. It is too bad we have to be suspicious. Go OBC! Let me know if you know him please. randyparsons@centurylink.net ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:54:00 -0500 (EST) From: Jeffrey Delott Subject: Best eBay alternative Does anyone think there is a better online auction alternative to eBay? Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 16:28:44 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Cheap 1951-52 Parkhurst hockey on eBay I know that only a few OBCers collect vintage hockey but I don't have a list so I am sending this post to all. In my daily eBay searches, I found a dealer with 70 cards from the 1951-52 hockey set. All have tape and rounded corners. Most have active bids of about $1-$2. I bid on two of the last 7 or 8 I need: Mortson (common) and Terry Sawchuk RC. Here's a link to the dealer's eBay page. http://stores.ebay.com/Republic-Vintage-Cards-Collectibles Steve Rittenberg ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:41:38 -0500 To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Rob Fitts Subject: Re: Insurance Appraisal and card$ I have an excellent insurance agent who specializes in sports cards collections. If anybody wants more information on them, please email me off list. Rob fitts Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 06:14:11 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Fw: Your Amazon.com order (#102-0865462-8357842) Great news this morning! As per the e-mail below my copy of Rob Fitts new book could be here before months end. Can't wait! "we keep what we give away!" ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "order-update@amazon.com" To: "originaleek1@att.net" Sent: Sun, January 22, 2012 3:23:46 AM Subject: Your Amazon.com order (#102-0865462-8357842) We have received new release date information related to the order you placed November 16, 2011 (Order# 102-0865462-8357842). The item(s) listed below will actually ship sooner than we originally expected based on the new release date: Robert K. Fitts "Banzai Babe Ruth: Baseball, Espionage, and Assassination during the 1934 Tour of Japan" Previous estimated arrival date: March 06, 2012 - March 08, 2012 New estimated arrival date: January 26, 2012 If you want to check on the progress of your order, take a look at this page Your Account: https://www.amazon.com/gp/css/summary/edit.html?orderID102-0865462-8357842 We hope to see you again soon! Customer Service Department http://www.amazon.com Check your order and more: http://www.amazon.com/your-account Please note: This e-mail was sent from a notification-only address that cannot accept incoming e-mail. Please do not reply to this message. ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Thanks to Ed Watts and Andy Cook A couple of other significant arrivals this week were contributions from Ed and Andy to replace our foreign currency collection. I've always enjoyed geography from a boy and throughout my life. It's been enhanced by the opportunity to travel to many places, mostly in Asia, Africa, Australia, and the Middle East. The currency is a small tool I use to interest the kids in geography as well. Most currency commemorates famous people, places and events of nation's and therefore gives them a small insight. When I can, I relate personal knowledge. Ed's included coins and currencyfrom Greece, India, Poland, Macedonia, Turkey and Costa Rica. Andy's isreally flabbergasting. It was a box of coins and currency (over 500 pieces I would estimate) from Greece, Germany, Holland, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Spain, Belgium, Italy, Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Egypt,Nicaragua, Norway, Denmark, Chile, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Korea, French Polynesia, and quite a few as yet unidentified currency which will be a kids' challenge. Andy says these are from his travels. And I thought I had been to a few places!!! Thanks to both of you for a truly wonderful addition to the Miller home. OBC is the Greatest, Lynn ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:15:58 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "thenamenotused" Subject: Re: Insurance Appraisal and card$ I use American Collectors. They have a very good product at a very reasonable price. They just started insuring cards in the last couple months. I have had their coverage for some time with the rest of my collection. Nick Pelletier --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Rob Fitts wrote: > I have an excellent insurance agent who specializes in sports cards collections. If anybody wants more information on them, please email me off list. > Rob fitts > Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:17:25 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Michael" Subject: Re: 2012 Collecting Goals So clearly my first goal is to get on top of things with OBC considering how long it took me to respond to this. Other goals include: 1) Sending out more cards - did that this month, hope people got them 2) Go to more shows - I like the Westchester show, but I'd like to go to more 3) Meet some OBC members 4) To complete my 1976, 1977, 1978, and 1979 Topps Baseball sets - 5 cards or less per set 5) To get a 1980 toppps #387A fred stanley card to get the last variation for my 1980 topps set 6) To chip away more at my 1974 and 1975 topps sets - i think i have a legit shot at completing them by the end of this year 7) knock off some cards from my other sets 8) complete some non-OBC sets - 2004 topps total - topps total are fun sets 9) have even more fun with OBC and the spirit of giving - this group has been so much fun since i joined - big thanks to rob gioia for getting me started I hope everyone's new year started off well so far. Mike Dillon --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "zackenback23" wrote: > Last year the group had a pretty lengthy conversation about everyone's collecting goals for 2011. I found my post and saw that I didn't even come close. My main goal was to finish ten sets - I made two. Well, it was a crazy year, so this year I will try it again. > 2012 Collecting Goals > 1. Make sure to give timely thanks for anything that comes my way. > 2. Find payback of some kind for those that I owe. > 3. Try to hit the list of every OBC member at some point this year. > 4. Knock 23 cards off the 1969 Topps set (currently at 43). > 5. Knock 21 cards off the 1961 Topps set (currently at 61). > 6. Kill the 1968 Topps Game set (currently at 2). > 7. Kill the 1979 Topps Football set (currently at 25). > 8. Pick up one of the two Bobby Orr hockey set killers I need (69-70 and 70-71). > 9. Knock 10 cards off the 1968-69 Topps Hockey set (currently at 30). > 10. Knock 65 cards off the remaining list I need to kill the Topps Hockeyrun (7% of 916). > 11. Pick a new 50's or 60's baseball set to focus heavily on. > I'd love to read others reviews of last year and goals for this year. I can say I'm already ahead of last year as I think I hit on #2 and #8. > Mike Mroz ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 07:03:04 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: closet cleaning I have been going through =E2=9Ctreasures in the closet=E2=9D today and found a few things that I saved 30 years ago thinking it was going to make me rich. That hasn=E2=99t exactly worked out for me. Now I am to the point of swapping it for about anything I need. We=E2=99ll probably findmore tomorrow so stay tuned. Does anyone need: a.. 1980 Topps Super Baseball Set. These came in a white back and gray back variation. I have 3 complete gray back 60 card sets and a many white andgray singles. They are 5x7 and look great. b.. 1980 Topps Super Football set (30 5x7 cards) c.. 1969 Topps Football mini albums. they are in assorted conditions, some have the stamps inserted. d.. 1986 Topps All Star send away glossy set =E2=93 60 card set e.. I found a few assorted wrappers, if anyone collects just send me a note. thanks for the read. Mark Holland Vintage List: ================= To: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:52:25 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: 12th OBC SuperBowl pool! Yea! If you are familiar, it is time to let me know you are in :) If you don't know what I'm talking about, check out http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-11.htm for last years results and the "history" of the pool. This is a big year because we will go past the 4,000 mark for cards sent to "winners". Pretty cool. The idea is, you get a square (or two or three) and if you win, you get cards from everyone (and you send some yourself to the other 3 winners). If you lose, you just send cards to the 4 winners. No other real rules... so, if you want in, let me know. I usually assign the numbers on the Thursday before the Game, so everyone has time to print at work :) Ink is expensive. Go OBC! ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:05:25 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Great Baseball Story http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201201/sunlight-moonlight-man nuff ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:30:08 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "thenamenotused" Subject: Can Anybody be a hero? Im looking for one card to complete a 1976 set. # 140 Vida Blue If anybody has an extra copy they are willing to trade please let me know. I will do my best to hit anything on your list. I appreciate anything you can do. Thank you. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:59:36 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "thenamenotused" Subject: A second HERO request!?!?!? I am looking for two 1975 Topps cards to complete that set. # 126 a checklist # 260 Johnny Bench If anybody has an extra of either of these two cards that they are willing to trade please contact me. I will find something for your list. Thank you for your help. Nick Pelletier ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:09:15 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, thenamenotused From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Can Anybody be a hero? I have one. It will go out tomorrow. John Stamperhttp://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Tue, 1/24/12, thenamenotused wrote: From: thenamenotused Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Can Anybody be a hero? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 24, 2012, 3:30 PM Im looking for one card to complete a 1976 set. # 140 Vida Blue If anybody has an extra copy they are willing to trade please let me know. I will do my best to hit anything on your list. I appreciate anything you can do. Thank you. Nick Pelletier ================= To: Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:52:15 -0500 From: "Rob Fitts" Subject: Neded a 1965 hero I went to the White Plains NY show last Friday with a primary goal of finishing off my 1965 Topps baseball set. I just needed 6. I found 5 of the 6 in nice VG condition but could only find mint cards of the final one, so I passed on them. Does anybody have a presentable 1965 AL RBI Leaders (#5) with Mantle in their dupes box? rob fitts Murder, Espionage & Baseball ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 01:00:59 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: A new OBC Slang entry? Got a chuckle today when e-mailing with another trader (from VCT) - he asked if I minded a PWE. I had never heard of that one, so I asked for a definition. So, what does PWE stand for? We call 'em flats, but maybe PWE can be added to our Slang dictionary too :-) Tom H. ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:58:54 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: 67T high # lot on eBay this looks like a good deal for anyone needing these 67T hi numbers. unfortunately none were on my list. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-Toppd-High-Hi-Lot-6-Cards-Estrada-Gonzalez-Camilli-Weis-Geuger-Ricketts-/140675111146?ptUS_Baseball&hashitem20c0e3d= Mark Holland Vintage List: ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:00:51 -0500 (EST) From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Los Angeles ABA Team Does anyone know if there are period cards for the LA ABA teams of the late60s - first the LA Amigos and later the LA Stars? ================= To: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:29:24 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: writing on front Seems to me someone is collecting these, but can't recall who..... Richard D=09=09=09=09=09 ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:43:22 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, richard dingman From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] writing on front Jim Hatch is collecting these. John Stamperhttp://holidayandhobbies.yolasite.com/ --- On Fri, 1/27/12, richard dingman wrote: From: richard dingman Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] writing on front To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 27, 2012, 4:29 PM Seems to me someone is collecting these, but can't recall who..... Richard D ================= To: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:39:36 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Some nifty cards up for grabs I have these 2010 topps cards, that are pictures of players from years where they didn't play. On the back is a comparrison of one of the player's years with players from the year depicted on the card. If you look and like one or more, let me know and I'll send them along. There is a: '52 Nolan Ryan '53 Willie McCovey '55 Reggie Jackson '58 Lou Gehrig '59 Thurman Munson '60 Michael Jack Schmidt '62 Tom Seaver '69 Ozzie Smith '72 Christy Mathewson '76 Jackie Robinson here is a link to 8 of the fronts: http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cards/never007.jpg and this is the other 2 fronts and 3 of the backs so you get the idea. Enjoy, they are pretty cool, and the comparrisons are interesting. http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cards/never008.jpg Go OBC! ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:11:13 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "tjv815" Subject: A few availables Hey gang, I was able to get some time in with my cards last night. As a result, I have a few availables. Please claim away. 1961 Fleer - 81 1970 Fleer - 18, 56, 64 1976 Kelloggs - 54 1976 Hostess - 18 1977 Kelloggs - 9 54 56 1978 Burger King Checklist - Yankees 1980 Kelloggs - 17 I also have a stack of about 100 1978's. If you are working on the set, please send me your wantlist (Betza, I already have some pulled for you) 1956 Topps Football - 8 32 42 45 99 104 117 Claim away! ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:18:59 -0800 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mike diamanti Subject: O'Briens & Ripkens Well Gals & Guys: Here's an article from the Seattle Times on the O'Brien brothers, and the Ripken brothers. Turns out they've had shared friendships through the Is it spring training yet? http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seattleuniversity/2017356121_obriens28.html ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:11:03 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Super bowl pool one week to go before the super bowl, and only 5 days before you miss your chance to be in the 12th OBC super bowl pool! Let me know if you have questions. Go OBC! ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 03:50:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "joedenning71" Subject: Afghanistan I want to thank each and every one in OBC. The entire group has been greatand I hope to meet many more of you in the future and conduct a lot more trades than I have recently. That said, although I haven't been very active lately, I have at least checked my emails for the daily digest as I can. I hope everyone will accept my tardiness and inactivity because I have been extremely busy (and gone a lot) preparing to deploy to Afghanistan for my 4th combat tour of duty. I ask that you please keep me and my family in your thoughts while I am deployed and I will attempt to keep in touch as I can. Upon my return, I'm going to attempt to hit as many lists as a can as a wayto say thanks and to catch up as well :) While I'm gone, I'd like to finish a couple of sets for one of my buddies who I owe a big one to for his incredible patience and support. Mostly 1976-78 commons and minor stars, and a couple of 1999 Topps. I'll post that tonight on the wantlist announcement and on my OBC wantlist page. In return,I'll ensure that everyone who conributes is taken care of upon my return with many a hit to their lists. That said, Don Rice I owe you big for those EIGHT 1953 Topps you sent recently, I haven't forgotten, and I will reciprocate when I return as time has ran out for me before I leave to hit your list the way it deserves to be hit for your generous contribution. Next time I come to Albany, lunch or dinner is on me and extra cards to your list will be kicked in. Thanks again, I hope I've not been too long winded or come off as self-centered. It is truly an honor to be a great part of this group and I plan to be for many more years to come. Very respctfully, ================= To: , Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:07:09 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Re: 76-78 and 98 Topps Baseball list from OBC Ramblings not much, but if anyone is keeping track, I have '76 108 and '98 275 on the way. Good luck! ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:10:07 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: 62T my new priority I am trying to push the 62T set to completion. I recognize that the stars will probably have to come from eBay but maybe I can get some help on the others (mainly high numbers). OBC condition is fine. Will try to find return fire (also in OBC condition). This is my first 62T set and is now my collecting thanks for the read! Year Brand Number Name 1962 Topps 50 Stan Musial 1962 Topps 136 Babe Joins Yanks 1962 Topps 140 Gehrig & Ruth 1962 Topps 200 Mickey Mantle 1962 Topps 288 Billy Williams 1962 Topps 307 Jim Grant 1962 Topps 318 Mickey Mantle 1962 Topps 458 Bob Buhl 1962 Topps 462 Willie Tasby 1962 Topps 464 Al Jackson 1962 Topps 465 Reds Team 1962 Topps 476 Orioles Team 1962 Topps 494 Sammy White 1962 Topps 500 Duke Snider 1962 Topps 524 Howie Nunn 1962 Topps 526 Hal Woodeshick 1962 Topps 529 John Schaive 1962 Topps 530 Bob Gibson 1962 Topps 537 Indians Team 1962 Topps 541 Don Nottebart 1962 Topps 544 Willie McCovey 1962 Topps 545 Hoyt Wilhelm 1962 Topps 550 Art Mahaffey 1962 Topps 552 Cubs Team 1962 Topps 555 John Buzhardt 1962 Topps 560 Chuck Estrada 1962 Topps 567 Tracy Stallard 1962 Topps 570 Bill Stafford 1962 Topps 575 Red Schoendienst 1962 Topps 576 Russ Kemmerer 1962 Topps 577 Dave Nicholson 1962 Topps 579 Jim Schaffer 1962 Topps 584 Twins Team 1962 Topps 587 Frank Funk 1962 Topps 590 Curt Flood 1962 Topps 591 Sam McDowell 1962 Topps 592 Jim Bouton 1962 Topps 593 Hamilton/Veale 1962 Topps 594 Bob Uecker 1962 Topps 595 Ed Charles 1962 Topps 596 Joe Pepitone 1962 Topps 597 Denis Menke 1962 Topps 598 Jim Hickman Mark Holland Vintage List: ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:30:20 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what they put on their cards Check out the link. The Skip Schumacher card front has only Skip's foot - and the Rally Squirrel. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/skip-schumaker-baseball-card-features-rally-squirrel-not-190252048.html Why not just give the long-tailed rodent his own card? ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:51:23 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what As I write, four of these cards are up on eBay. The first one that hit was a 24-hour auction, and was up to $305 in 13 minutes. Right now that particular card is up to $655.99, and the other three are all over $100. Most likely the first card is being thrill-bidded right now - the likelihood of the winning bidder actually paying is probably slim-to-none. If anyone recalls, the same hype was evident when the '07 Bush/Mantle/Jetercame out. The card's existence popped up in the main-stream media, and allof a sudden everyone had to have one, including those who had never beforecollected. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw2012+topps+squirrel&_sacat0&_odkw2012+topps+squ*&_osacat0&_trksidp3286.c0.m270.l1313 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Housley" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:30:20 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what they put on their cards Check out the link. The Skip Schumacher card front has only Skip's foot - and the Rally Squirrel. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/skip-schumaker-baseball-card-features-rally-squirrel-not-190252048.html Why not just give the long-tailed rodent his own card? ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:07:54 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken" Subject: Waiver Wire Short waiver wire tonight guys. Please be sure to include your address. Ken P. 1964 Kahn's Bill Virdon 1964 Topps 167 Piniella Rd 1970 Fleer World Series (black back) 7, 20, 39, 53, 59 1973 Fleer Wildest Days of Play 38 1974 Topps 148 Hilton Washington Var., 499, 534, 537, 538, 539, 540 1974 Giants Team Check list OC (** for those counting) 1979 Topps 174 326 516 622 ================= To: "'Geordie Calvert'" , Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:48:15 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what they put on their cards And 2-3 years from now you will be able to pick one up on Evilbay for a couple of bucks as an oddity. I just can't WAIT for the "claw-signed" version......or the "tree-used" variation........the imagination runs From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geordie Calvert Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:51 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what they put on their cards As I write, four of these cards are up on eBay. The first one that hit was a 24-hour auction, and was up to $305 in 13 minutes. Right now that particular card is up to $655.99, and the other three are all over $100. Most likely the first card is being thrill-bidded right now - the likelihood of the winning bidder actually paying is probably slim-to-none. If anyone recalls, the same hype was evident when the '07 Bush/Mantle/Jeter came out. The card's existence popped up in the main-stream media, and all of a sudden everyone had to have one, including those who had never before http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw12+topps+squirrel To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:30:20 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what they put on their cards Check out the link. The Skip Schumacher card front has only Skip's foot - and the Rally Squirrel. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/skip-schumaker-baseball-ca Why not just give the long-tailed rodent his own card? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4175 - Release Date: 01/29/12 ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:08:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: February FOOT Festivities Super Bowl Sunday is the local Redford card show, located at 27345 Schoolcraft Road, Redford, MI 48239, at the VFW Hall, which is on the southeast corner I-96 and Inkster. Show runs from 9-1. Hope to meet our newest local OBCer, Joe?, and also long time OBCer Brad Chambers who is working in town. I believe Ron Perry will be there as well as myself. Could be a good turnout with Mark Talbot, Mike Mroz, Earl Kilborne and myself. Saturday, February 11, is the annual Michigan v Michigan State Hockey game at Joe Louis Arena. Game time is at 7:30, and we will probably go to dinner at Greek Town ahead of time. Tickets should be between $11 - $15 depending on how many folks we can get to go. Please let me know if you plan on attending either event. Mike Rich cell: (248) 709-2235 ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:38:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: Topps - proving that it doesn't matter what they put on their cards Fans of the Cardinals will want this card. I do. But not for more than the cost of all the other cards - I will get one only if it comes in a pack. As soon as that darn rodent ran on the field, I was wondering how long it would take to get its own t-shirt. And lo and behold, that same month at our Halloween festival, one of our guys had a Cards jersey on with a beanie baby squirrel added to the shoulder! That's NOT a Skip Schumaker card. It shouldn't be a shortprint. Those aregetting increasingly annoying to me. It should be part of a postseason subset - as it truly was a turning point in the game and, in some people's opinions, effected the outcome of the series. ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:03:32 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Its a stitch up!! Some months back, I promised to post up a scan of one of my favorite cards - my 1957T Ray Boone.....sewn up variation. Well, here it is at last!! I can't remember who in OBC originally passed this along to me, but its definitely come to be a card that I really enjoy having in my collection! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:05:08 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Miscuts and writing fronts Can you remind me who it is that collects miscuts, and cards with writing on the front? I have one of each that I'd like to pass along. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 02:42:52 +0000 (UTC) To: Glenn Codere From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Its a stitch up!! [1 Attachment] That one left me in Stitches!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ---------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Codere" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:03:32 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Its a stitch up!! [1 Attachment] [ Attachment(s) from Glenn Codere included below] Some months back, I promised to post up a scan of one of my favorite cards - my 1957T Ray Boone.....sewn up variation. Well, here it is at last!! I can't remember who in OBC originally passed this along to me, but its definitely come to be a card that I really enjoy having in my collection! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:51:30 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Lyons Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Its a stitch up!! I'll chip in some money to send it to PSA From: "talbot1@comcast.net" To: Glenn Codere Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Its a stitch up!! That one left me in Stitches!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ---------------- MARK From: "Glenn Codere" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:03:32 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Its a stitch up!! [1 Attachment] [Attachment(s) from Glenn Codere included below] Some months back, I promised to post up a scan of one of my favorite cards - my 1957T Ray Boone.....sewn up variation. Well, here it is at last!! I can't remember who in OBC originally passed this along to me, but its definitely come to be a card that I really enjoy having in my collection! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection WantList ================= To: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:25:29 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: The January 2012 card count ramble OBC World, I always love it when mass mailings go out and then you get to follow along on the THANKS server for the great appreciations that are sent. Well 2012 has really started out with a bang, as there has been a TON of cardboard flying around. That's super cool. We'd be remiss if not noting that Ryan's auction and The Stamper Stampede weren't huge contributors to the great month we are all having. It would take someone with more mathematical acumen than I have, but I wonder what the card count would be from John's big benevolent barrage, and Ryan's auction alone!!! That's my ramble...someone count them all up and let's beat it in February! OBC Forever