================= To: , Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:42:26 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Final results from OBC Haitian Donation auction Great work Spike! Richard D To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glidden.matthew@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 00:08:05 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Final results from OBC Haitian Donation auction It's midnight, so I'm officially closing the window on new bids. The final total's almost $950, pretty sweet for a one-week fundraiser. I'll send a summary message tomorrow and start packaging the cards for shipping. Thanks again, everyone! 1967 Topps complete set $551 Doug D 1968 Topps #177 Ryan / Koosman RC - $150 Mac W 1967 Topps Venezuelan #302 Claude Osteen (Dodgers) - $20 Bob D T205 Arthur Devlin - $10 Fr Pat T205 John Flynn - $10 Fr Pat T205 J. Owen Wilson $10 J. Levine T205 George Paskert $15 Mke R T205 Matty McIntyre $15 TJ 1933 Goudey #31 Tony Lazzeri - $22.50 Gary M 1933 Goudey #47 Heinie Manush - $20 Erik G 1935 Goudey 8-E Yankees (Allen / Deshong / Rolfe / Walker) $40 P. Mead 1935 Goudey 8-C Browns (Burns / Hemsley / Grube / Weiland) - $15 Mark T 1972 Topps posters Tom Seaver - $20 Bob D 1972 Topps posters Willie McCovey - $25 Ed P III ================= Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:24:39 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Wrap up from Haitian auction (and what winners should do) Thanks to everyone who bid in the Haitian auction! Next steps for winners: 1) Let me know if you plan to PayPal me (glidden.matthew@gmail.com), send a check, or want to donate personally. Matthew Glidden 34 Harvey St #2 Cambridge, MA 02140 2) This week, I will send a total donation to Red Cross for all who plan to PayPal me or send a check. 3) After donating, I'll send a final total + employer match statement to ramblings and the OBC-AC. 4) All cards will be in the mail by the end of the week! Please check that your mailing address is correct in the OBC list (or email it to me List of winners and amounts: 1967 Topps complete set $551 Doug D 1968 Topps #177 Ryan / Koosman RC - $150 Mac W 1967 Topps Venezuelan #302 Claude Osteen (Dodgers) - $20 Bob D 1972 Topps posters Tom Seaver - $20 Bob D Total: $40 T205 Arthur Devlin - $10 Fr Pat T205 John Flynn - $10 Fr Pat Total: $20 T205 J. Owen Wilson $10 J. Levine T205 George Paskert $15 Mke R T205 Matty McIntyre $15 TJ 1933 Goudey #31 Tony Lazzeri - $22.50 Gary M 1933 Goudey #47 Heinie Manush - $20 Erik G 1935 Goudey 8-E Yankees (Allen / Deshong / Rolfe / Walker) $40 P. Mead 1935 Goudey 8-C Browns (Burns / Hemsley / Grube / Weiland) - $15 Mark T 1972 Topps posters Willie McCovey - $25 Ed P III ================= Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:30:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rrrlyons" Subject: info on topps insert cards I use a beckett almanac for my checklist and was wondering about the insert/checklist cards. I know the 56 set has the 2 different checklists, 57 has the contest cards/checklists/lucky penny, 58 says contest cards does that mean more than one and how many? 59 doesn't say anything at the end of the list. 60 topps says Iron-on team transfer and nothing after that probably because there were regular inserts in the packs. Am I missing any more or is that it. That just brought me to a new question what is the best big book to use in your opinion for most items/best details/ most accurate etc. thanks for your input. Rick ================= Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 01:05:34 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Cranston, Rhode Island card show this Saturday, Feb 6 This show sneaks up on you, doesn't it? Here are the details for Cranton's annual 120-table show, now in its 34th year. Miss Rhode Island was a guest a few years ago, though we can't promise that level of celebrity every time. :-) *RHODE ISLAND* *Feb 6 RI, West warwick*. 34th Annual Cranston Sports Colectors Show, West Valley Inn, 4 Blossom St. SH: 8:30-4 p.m., T: 120-8', F: $65, A: $3/ Thomas A. McDonough, 44 Bagley Ave, Cranston, RI 02920 PH: 401-942-1230 ================= Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:10:37 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: George Vrechek Subject: Inserts I use the SCD Catalog which is pretty complete.I'm away from home otherwiseI'd look up the inserts. I need most of them and they are on my wantlist. I did want to add that there exist unlisted game cards for 1956. I saw themon ebay several years back and never again. They were related to actual game scores on specific dates in 1956. eorge Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:10:59 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Announcements] Membership Poll Content-Language: en From: ChicoD1@aol.com To: jwi62@hotmail.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 2/3/2010 2:08:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: [OBC-Announcements] Membership Poll Hi Joe, Thanks for the phone call. Things have been hectic to say the least. Although I haven't really been active, keep me on the rolls, I like checking the email when time permits. Mortgage industry continues to go into the toilet here, so I've been doing some computer work on the side and looks like I will have a career change working the helpdesk at Cablevision in a couple of weeks. Hopefully, once that happens and I get a steady paycheck, things may finally begin to settle down. I even told them that I already have my vacation planned for the week of Aug 3 so I can attend the national! Hope things are going well with you and everyone. As long as I'm passing this around to the ramblings server also....I have some LONG overdue thanks.. I believe Lynn, Marc and Rich have sent packages over the past couple of months. If I have missed anyone, please let me know. Had a nice text conversation with Steve a while back with some encouraging words to hang in there-- which is exactly what I have done. Hope you guys are all well... Congrats on Kent finally retiring.. only took 2 years LOL... I am still not going to update my list for a while... although it hasn't changed in the past year lol... Hook or by crook I plan on seeing all you folks in Baltimore. So, I'm alive.... things are getting well... and in 3 months I'll be getting free cable if I get the job :-) ! In a message dated 1/14/2010 8:29:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jwi62@hotmail.com writes: Hi OBCer's I am asking all in OBC if anyone is interested in running the membership poll. Per the ROC, here is a description of the membership poll: The OBCAC shall appoint an OBC member to conduct the membership poll. Twice a year, in January and in July this appointee will send to the active membership an email that must be responded to in order to maintain active membership status. Any member who does not respond to the membership poll will be moved to inactive status, removed from the active OBC Directory and placed on a separate Non-active / Alumni Roster which will also be accessible from the main Directory page. Inactive members are not required to respond to the membership poll. Any inactive member who wishes to return to active status can do so by simply making a request of the OBCAC for reinstatement. If interested, please email me directly by Saturday 1/16. Thank you. Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. _Sign up now._ (http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/) ================= Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:40:00 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Oddball 1960s and 70s availables 1962 Post #133 162 181 197 1963 GAD Fun cards #1 14 16 19 44 55 56 58 59 65 72 73 83 84 1964-67 Sport Hobbyist Famous Card Series #8 "S-74 Silks", #19 "Allen & Ginter Worlds Champions" 1967 Topps posters #17 Knoop 1972 Topps posters #8 Wise, #19 Kirkpatrick 1979 Nashville Sounds (Cincy AA affiliate): Scott Brown Let me know if you're interested! ================= To: Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:42:43 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: ESPN baseball card story, and a visit to a WA card shop OBC World, You might know that Cy Young winner Tim Lincecum is a local Washington guy... in fact his legal troubles with driving too fast and possession of Mother Earth resulted from a traffic stop just 7 miles down the road from me. Of course, he was headed further north, sorta near Dave Fallen,Rick Lyons, Mike Diamanti and Big Al Cummings country. His "hometown" baseball card shop in Renton, WA is featured in the story here http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?pagecaple/100203&sportCatmlb Not a bad little article to spend a couple minutes with :) OBC Forever Ridgefield, WA ================= Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:08:11 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "distelrath66" Subject: ... More health issues. I found out that I gave MRSA and I gave to be hospitalized. This one is very serious, and in the worst case scenario is sepsis and organ failure. Please keep me in your prayers! ================= Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:46:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Forget the Toyota recall, what about Upper Deck? I read in today's Los Angeles Times on page B2: "The lawsuit seeks unspecified damages and calls for Upper Deck to recall its 2009 and 2010 baseball cards, which feature team and league logos." Be sure to go to your local baseball card shop and turn in all your 2009 and 2010 Upper Deck baseball cards for the recall. First it was Toyota and now it is Upper Deck! ================= To: "oBC Ramblings" Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 20:01:29 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: superbowl pool... I will be assigning squares with the help of my son pulling random numbers from a hat. This will happen in about 90 minutes, so you have one last chance to get inon the fun! Email me and let me know. ================= Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:52:22 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Phillies oddballs spotted on eBay ("1977 Philadelphia Favorites") I know we've got some Philly collectors and you don't see these very often. (Includes Robin Roberts and Nap Lajoie.) http://cgi.ebay.com/5-1977-Philadelphia-Favorites-Promo-cards-for-Card-Show_W0QQitemZ380203722431QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Baseball?hash=item5885e866bf#ht_2286wt_941 ================= To: "oBC Ramblings" Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 23:25:21 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: super bowl pool I have all the names in the squares. My son is drawing numbers now. Watch in just a couple minutes for the numbers. email me if you have questions and Good luck on Sunday! ================= Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 07:59:18 EST To: seanobc@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool I found the numbers for this year's pool at _http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-10.htm_ (http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-10.htm) in case anyone wanted to write them down for handy reference during the big game. Ken M In a message dated 2/4/2010 11:25:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, seanobc@comcast.net writes: I have all the names in the squares. My son is drawing numbers now. Watch in just a couple minutes for the numbers. email me if you have questions and Good luck on Sunday! ================= Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:14:24 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool I like those numbers!!!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List From: "cardclctor@aol.com" To: seanobc@comcast.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool I found the numbers for this year's pool at http://home. comcast.net/ ~seankatie/ pool-10.htmin case anyone wanted to write them down for handy reference during the big game. Ken M In a message dated 2/4/2010 11:25:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, seanobc@comcast. net writes: > I have all the names in the squares. My son is drawing numbers now. Watch in just a couple minutes for thenumbers. email me if you have questions and Good luck on Sunday! ================= Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:20:46 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool Perfect time for this column on Super Bowl Squares! http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p5963 Did I really get both the 9-6 and 6-9 squares? Am I suddenly a huge fan of field goals? Yes. Yes, I am. On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:59 AM, wrote: > I found the numbers for this year's pool at > http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-10.htm in case anyone wanted to > write them down for handy reference during the big game. > Ken M > In a message dated 2/4/2010 11:25:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > seanobc@comcast.net writes: > Kids, > I have all the names in the squares. My son is drawing numbers now. > Watch in just a couple minutes for the numbers. email me if you have > questions and Good luck on Sunday! > Sean ================= Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:14:15 -0500 To: obc ramblings , obc-ac@yahoogroups.com From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Summary of Haitian donation (and another matching opportunity open Hi all, The auction proceeds totaled just under $950. I've attached the Red Cross thank-you note and requested a match from my employer, which will make our donation a total of $1900. If you want to donate directly, I found another opportunity online yesterday. The web site DealNews.com is matching 100% of donations made through Feb 11 (or to a total of $50K). Details here: http://dealnews.com/features/dealnews-Will-Match-Up-to-50-000-in-donations-for-Haiti-Relief/343351.html ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:03 AM Subject: American Red Cross of Mass Bay Thanks You For Your Support February 5, 2010 Dear [OBCers], Thank you for your online contribution of $950.00 to support the crucial work of the American Red Cross. We will be putting your gift to work immediately, to help individuals and families in times of crisis. Your generosity helps the Red Cross assist those who have been forced from their homes by devastating disasters. We remain truly grateful for your generosity and compassionate kindness. On behalf of our volunteers, and most importantly, those whose lives your gift will touch, thank you for your support of our vital work. With your help, the American Red Cross *will be there* whenever we are needed. *Deborah C. Jackson* Chief Executive Officer American Red Cross of Massachusetts Bay ================= To: "'Matthew Glidden'" , Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:21:00 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Summary of Haitian donation (and another matching opportunity open through Feb 11) Great Job Spike! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Glidden Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:14 AM To: obc ramblings; obc-ac@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Summary of Haitian donation (and another matching opportunity open through Feb 11) Hi all, The auction proceeds totaled just under $950. I've attached the Red Cross thank-you note and requested a match from my employer, which will make our donation a total of $1900. If you want to donate directly, I found another opportunity online yesterday. The web site DealNews.com is matching 100% of donations made through Feb 11 (or to a total of $50K). Details here: http://dealnews.com/features/dealnews-Will-Match-Up-to-50-000-in-donations-f ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:03 AM Subject: American Red Cross of Mass Bay Thanks You For Your Support February 5, 2010 Dear [OBCers], Thank you for your online contribution of $950.00 to support the crucial work of the American Red Cross. We will be putting your gift to work immediately, to help individuals and families in times of crisis. Your generosity helps the Red Cross assist those who have been forced from their homes by devastating disasters. We remain truly grateful for your generosity and compassionate kindness. On behalf of our volunteers, and most importantly, those whose lives your gift will touch, thank you for your support of our vital work. With your help, the American Red Cross will be there whenever we are needed. Deborah C. Jackson Chief Executive Officer American Red Cross of Massachusetts Bay ================= Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:07:08 -0600 (CST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: only two votes so far----

Come on, I need to have some fun while we are street and house bound.  Right now we have close to 30 inches of snow--but the BIG Question--
When will my street be plowed?
Card(s) go to the winning guess.
stay safe--my Washington/Baltimore OBC friends.....
Peter Mead
================= Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:58:05 -0800 (PST) To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- I'll say Monday @ 6:57 pm. "we keep what we give away!" From: "hoot_owl1@verizon.net" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 1:07:08 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- Come on, I need to have some fun while we are street and house bound.Right now we have close to 30 inches of snow--but the BIG Question-- When will my street be plowed? Card(s) go to the winning guess. stay safe--my Washington/Baltimor e OBC friends..... Peter Mead ================= Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 17:08:23 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: 1961 Topps Stamps needed Technically, I have a complete set of 1961 Topps stamps, but most of them are stuck into two separate albums. I have decided to add to my want list the stamps I need to complete both albums. Please let me know if you can Want List 1961 Topps Stamps: Album 1: Reds: Pinson Dodgers: Moon Braves: Buhl, Mathews Pirates: Virdon Cardinals: Musial Orioles: Brandt Red Sox: Runnels White Sox: Kemmerer Indians: Antonelli Tigers: Kaline (green) A's: Williams Angels: Casale Yankees: Boyer Senators: Donovan Album 2: Cubs: Ellsworth Dodgers: Roseboro Braves: Willey Orioles: Estrada Phillies: Gonzalez, Walls Red Sox: Conley White Sox: Pierce, Smith Indians: Romano Tigers: Lary, Aguirre, Maxwell A's: Hall Twins: Kaat Senators: ================= To: , Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 14:39:04 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- I can absolutely confirm that your street will be plowed Monday at 2:33 PM. Too late to go to work, but enough time to go to the post office to mail out the winnings :) OBC forever ----- Original Message ----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- Come on, I need to have some fun while we are street and house bound. Right now we have close to 30 inches of snow--but the BIG Question-- When will my street be plowed? Card(s) go to the winning guess. stay safe--my Washington/Baltimore OBC friends..... Peter Mead ================= To: OBC-Ramblings Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:18:42 -0500 From: Joe Isaac Subject: Update to the OBC Dealer page Hey everyone, I want to let everyone that Zack Grakal, one of our OBC Friendly Dealers from California Sports Cards, recently updated his site with a new OBC discount code for 10% off your entire purchase. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ================= To: , Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:27:47 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- Not sure how important your street is, but I'll take a guess - 9:05 pm Sunday Richard Dingman To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 12:07:08 -0600 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- Come on, I need to have some fun while we are street and house bound. Right now we have close to 30 inches of snow--but the BIG Question-- When will my street be plowed? Card(s) go to the winning guess. stay safe--my Washington/Baltimore OBC friends..... Peter Mead ================= Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:19:26 -0800 (PST) To: Joe Isaac , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Well, Ihope he has a code that works because the last one didn't.I also hope he pays more attention to e-mails. I sent him several after my last purchase was shorta card, but I didn't hear back from him.Never didget the card either. "we keep what we give away!" From: Joe Isaac To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 8:18:42 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Hey everyone, I want to let everyone that Zack Grakal, one of our OBC Friendly Dealersfrom California Sports Cards, recently updated his site with a new OBC discount code for 10% off your entire purchase. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. ================= To: , , Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:27:29 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Actually, I had an experience that was very similar. I emailed about an order that I was unhappy with...never heard back...tried emailing several times, but no response at all. To: jwi62@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: originaleek1@att.net Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:19:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Well, I hope he has a code that works because the last one didn't. I also hope he pays more attention to e-mails. I sent him several after my last purchase was short a card, but I didn't hear back from him. Never did get the card "we keep what we give away!" From: Joe Isaac To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 8:18:42 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Hey everyone, I want to let everyone that Zack Grakal, one of our OBC Friendly Dealers from California Sports Cards, recently updated his site with a new OBC discount code for 10% off your entire purchase. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 06:52:13 EST To: brockhattox@cs.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Topps Stamps needed Are you looking for stamps with the glue still on the back, so you can stick them into the albums? I don't know if I can help either way, but thought I'd ask anyhow. ;-) I also have a complete set of stamps, but it's spread out in two or three albums as well. I've always meant to soak them all off the pages and display them in some other way, but it's been put in the "someday I'll get around to this" category. Ken M In a message dated 2/6/2010 5:08:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, brockhattox@cs.com writes: Technically, I have a complete set of 1961 Topps stamps, but most of them are stuck into two separate albums. I have decided to add to my want list the stamps I need to complete both albums. Please let me know if you can Want List 1961 Topps Stamps: Album 1: Reds: Pinson Dodgers: Moon Braves: Buhl, Mathews Pirates: Virdon Cardinals: Musial Orioles: Brandt Red Sox: Runnels White Sox: Kemmerer Indians: Antonelli Tigers: Kaline (green) A's: Williams Angels: Casale Yankees: Boyer Senators: Donovan Album 2: Cubs: Ellsworth Dodgers: Roseboro Braves: Willey Orioles: Estrada Phillies: Gonzalez, Walls Red Sox: Conley White Sox: Pierce, Smith Indians: Romano Tigers: Lary, Aguirre, Maxwell A's: Hall Twins: Kaat Senators: Daley ================= To: Mac Wubben , EEK , OBC-Ramblings Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 07:37:54 -0500 From: Joe Isaac Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Mac, EEK, Since this appears to be an issue concerning an OBC friendly dealer, I willmake sure this is a topic of discussion for the AC. If there is anyone else who experienced a similar confict, please reply to this email. Thanks, From: obcmac@hotmail.com To: originaleek1@att.net; jwi62@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 23:27:29 -0500 Actually, I had an experience that was very similar. I emailed about an order that I was unhappy with...never heard back...tried emailing several times, but no response at all. To: jwi62@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: originaleek1@att.net Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 20:19:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Well, I hope he has a code that works because the last one didn't. I also hope he pays more attention to e-mails. I sent him several after my last purchase was short a card, but I didn't hear back from him. Never did get the card "we keep what we give away!" From: Joe Isaac To: OBC-Ramblings Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 8:18:42 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Update to the OBC Dealer page Hey everyone, I want to let everyone that Zack Grakal, one of our OBC Friendly Dealers from California Sports Cards, recently updated his site with a new OBC discount code for 10% off your entire purchase. Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:05:21 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Topps Stamps needed From: Brockhattox@cs.com Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 08:02:38 EST Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Topps Stamps needed To: CardClctor@aol.com I don't need glue, I have some just in a plastic holder with each page. Thanks for checking... ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 09:37:07 -0800 (PST) To: originaleek1@att.net From: George Vrechek Subject: Zack Grakal OBC Dealer I saw the notes regarding Zack. I stopped into his LA store (Beverly Hills Baseball Card Shop) last week while vacationing here. He wanted to make sure the discount thing was working. Let me know what card you are missing from him and I'll stop in again on Monday this week. I had the same experience emailing him from Chicago but in the store and inperson they are helpful and reasonably priced. There aren't too many decent stores left so it was nice to be able to go throughh his stuff. They spent about an hour plus with me scratching around for variations. (I found the1955 Sullivan with the square dotted i and a 1964 Paul Toth with the disdappearing P !!!) I guess they don't have much of an inclination to clean out their emails tho. I'd give them a phone call next time there is any problem. As to other stores - I visited the South Bay store here which was fine. I heard the Burbank store was not helpful and have skipped them.Haven't found too many others with much vintage stuff. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:08:46 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Zack Grakal OBC Dealer Content-Language: en I also love working With Zach when I was in colorado but since I have all most of my sets done. I havent had much contact with him in recent years as now i am looking mostly for variation maybe i will have to start checking his siteagain In a message dated 2/7/2010 11:37:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: I saw the notes regarding Zack. I stopped into his LA store (Beverly Hills Baseball Card Shop) last week while vacationing here. He wanted to make sure the discount thing was working. Let me know what card you are missing from him and I'll stop in again on Monday this week. I had the same experience emailing him from Chicago but in the store and in person they are helpful and reasonably priced. There aren't too many decent stores left so it was nice to be able to go throughh his stuff. They spent about an hour plus with me scratching around for variations. (I found the 1955 Sullivan with the square dotted i and a 1964 Paul Toth with the disdappearing P !!!) I guess they don't have much of an inclination to clean out their emails tho. I'd give them a phone call next time there is any problem. As to other stores - I visited the South Bay store here which was fine. I heard the Burbank store was not helpful and have skipped them.Haven't found too many others with much vintage stuff. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:51:42 -0600 (CST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: pool update

No plows yet.  I do believe 50% of the 15 or so players have already been eliminated.  I don't think I will be making it to my super bowl party.
Oh well--stay tuned
================= To: Glenn Codere , OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:28:15 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool I bet Hitzeman likes his numbers too. I just noticed he has twice as manysquares as everybody else. He must have sent Sean some pretty good cards to pull that off. LOL. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: glenncodere@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 05:14:24 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool I like those numbers!!!! Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List From: "cardclctor@aol.com" To: seanobc@comcast.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 12:59:18 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] super bowl pool I found the numbers for this year's pool at http://home. comcast.net/ ~seankatie/ pool-10.htm in case anyone wanted to write them down for handy reference during the big game. Ken M In a message dated 2/4/2010 11:25:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, seanobc@comcast. net writes: I have all the names in the squares. My son is drawing numbers now. Watch in just a couple minutes for the numbers. email me if you have questions and Good luck on Sunday! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:50:04 -0500 From: directorth@aol.com Subject: Re: Update to the OBC Dealer page Hmm, seems California Sports Cards is earning a bad rep in our group - because last spring the same thing that Mac & EEK experienced happened to me. Iordered a 1958 numercal Orioles team but got the alphabetical one - plus acouple other cards were creased when the description was EX-MT. Several e-mails to them and no response. Perhaps, despite the OBC dealer spot, CSC's inclusion as on OBC-freindly should be reviewed. Discounts are great but don't help when you don't get what you ordered & e-mails are ignored. ================= To: "obc Ramblings" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:11:54 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: first quarter winner! Steve H! Congrats steve and get those want lists updated! Go OBC ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:15:54 -0500 To: "obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: Subject: First Quarter Sour Grapes So the Colts touchdown probably cost me the first quarter win. But, adding insult to injury, the score was the first Super Bowl touchdown by a player from my alma mater - little Mount Union College. Thanks a lot, Pierre. Bill Malson MUC 1973 ================= To: "oBC Ramblings" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 19:57:14 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: 2nd quarter winner! Congrats to Bob Bannon! Was it me, or was that a quick half? ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 16:58:42 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Rats! Aarrgghhh! I had a winning score until that last second FG. Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= To: "oBC Ramblings" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:02:48 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: 3rd quarter winner is Randy Welk! get those lists ready! ================= To: "oBC Ramblings" Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:57:22 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: final winner Bill Malson! Great game, unless you are a colts fan. Get that cardboard flying, and remember to email me numbers! Go OBC! ================= Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:21:35 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Zack Grakal OBC Dealer I added Zack to my bad dealer list last year. I, too, have had at least two issues with the wrong card being sent and not receiving any replies back after many attempts to get things straightened out. Once but twice puts dealers or individuals on my bad trade/buy list. ================= To: Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:24:31 -0500 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: Congrats .......... ......... to all you Saints fans especially our favorite priest from Metairie, Fr. Pat Im sure I can speak for most of us in OBC Land and say We are very happy for you Padre and the folks of Who Dat-land ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:48:44 EST To: kwg0@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Zack Grakal OBC Dealer Content-Language: en i think there are enough negative comments about this guy that if he doesn't resolve to straighten these issues out, and answer emails, i would support removing him from the obc dealer list. In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:23:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, kwg0@aol.com writes: I added Zack to my bad dealer list last year. I, too, have had at least two issues with the wrong card being sent and not receiving any replies back after many attempts to get things straightened out. Once but twice puts dealers or individuals on my bad trade/buy list. ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:53:45 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Is my wantlist working? No, this is not a subversive method of gettingpeople to check out my wantlist............ A couple OBCers have brought to my attention the fact that my WL doesn't seem to be loading up properly. If you have a moment, I'd appreciate it if you could give it a quick click and let me know if it works for you, and which browser you use. Just a simple "OK - IE8" or "No-Firefox3.6" would be sufficient. Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 06:55:52 EST To: easchott@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Congrats .......... Ed - you took the words right out of my mouth. Bob Corvello 42 Winston Drive Washington Depot, Ct. 06794 860 868-2939 Friar4@aol.com RobertCorvello@yahoo.com _http://friar4.i8.com/_ (http://friar4.i8.com/) Member: OBC, VCT, DT ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 05:36:11 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Thanks for the feedback! Hey Guys, I've had quite a few replies concerning my wantlist issue. All in all, it seems to be working finewith a wide variety of browsers. A couple of you were good enough to raise a usability issue that I'm going to work on. Thanks for all your input!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= To: smartalecx@aol.com, kwg0@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:31:18 -0500 From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Zack Grakal OBC Dealer I agree 100% if this guy doenst resolve problems he should be removed from our list. We certify dealers because of good transactions and reputations. Personally I dont think a dealer has to give a special OBC discount, but take care of the members of obc. But then again any reputable dealer would resolve a problem. Honestly if I bought a card from a JOE SHMOE dealer andI received the wrong cards I would expect him to fix it and send me the proper cards. So I am guessing not only should this guy be removed from our list, no one else should buy from him. He appears to be a poor business man. Just my opinion Rob "THE FIREMAN" Gioia -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx@aol.com To: kwg0@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 12:48 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Zack Grakal OBC Dealer i think there are enough negative comments about this guy that if he doesn't resolve to straighten these issues out, and answer emails, i would support removing him from the obc dealer list. In a message dated 2/7/2010 9:23:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, kwg0@aol.com I added Zack to my bad dealer list last year. I, too, have had at least two issues with the wrong card being sent and not receiving any replies backafter many attempts to get things straightened out. Once but twice puts dealers or individuals on my bad trade/buy list. ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, seventytwoP@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:53:22 -0500 From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: The Saints Hello all, I just wanted to share alittle story with you all about last night and some times. In a game where there was no bad guys, only good guys, In a game where 2 #1s played, In a game where MVP QBS matched up one of the GREATEST games emerged in the history of the NFL. I was suppose to go to a friends house for a superbowl party, but earlier in the week had some bad news. My father who had been having bad headaches and dizzy spells and weakness had gone into the DR for some tests. We dont know yet what the outcome is. We do know that the Catscan revealed a mass on his brain and the Drs want to attempt radiation treatment. So needlessto say I wanted to have the party at my house with the dad. All last minute planning to say the least. I was working saturday night untill sunday night at 5pm...so this was left to the bride. She went to KFC to a bucket of chicken, went to planet wings got wings, then got some hot dogs for my lil hotdog machine i have. Props go out to the bride for thowing it together andmaking it happen thanks honey. Back to dad. He arrived wearing my old Saints Starter jacket YES my saints jacket that he took from my closet years ago and he wears. He was pumped to be at a superbowl party with his son and grand sons. I was quite pumped with the company as well. THe 4 of us had a blast talking about football and past superbowls. My son asked me why Pops has a saints jacket I told him it was mine when i was a kid and pops wears it now....My dad went on to tell him that when your dad (ME) was a kid...he rooted for every underdog team.( hence why I liked the saints and The Patriots, even like the jets abit.) We talked about one year on my birthday...it was a sunday 10/27 not surethe year, but we watched the saints Bobby Hebert was the QB, That game waswatched my father myself and my grandfather....THe saints lost, but that was one of the first times I started rooting for the saints Not a raging fan but in football I like a few teams Pats will always be my favorite team though. But I enjoy and root for a few. So let me close by saying Congrats to the New Orleans Saints for winning the Superbowl and Thanks to my dad for coming over last night and making one of the best memories i will have. And pray that I can have many more Superbowl memories to come with my dad. Thank you guys for taking the time to read this Rob Gioia ================= To: Ed Schott , Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:23:02 -0600 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Congrats .......... Good morning, everybody! My eyes look like I have 3 raccoons in the family, but New Orleans is jubilant today! Thanks for all the good wishes and calls! I will be goingto the victory party tomorrow evening, which should be one for the ages. Last night the Quarter was as full as I've ever seen it for Mardi Gras, andthe overflow spilled into other neighborhoods as well. I rang the church bells in victory at game's end for 10 minutes. Fireworks were going off all over the area, horns honking, it was an absolutely joyful moment! I think I know how Brooklyn felt when the Dodgers won the World Series in 1955....and to think, it all happened on the 19th anniversary of my grandmother's death. Nana was no football fan, but I sure would like to think she might have had something to do with it! Blessings to you all! Father Pat To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: easchott@comcast.net Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:24:31 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Congrats .......... ......... to all you Saints fans especially our favorite priest from Metairie, Fr. Pat Im sure I can speak for most of us in OBC Land and We are very happy for you Padre and the folks of Who Dat-land Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:18:32 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The Saints Good times, Rob!Memories to stick with you, your dad, and your kids forever. I like stories like this! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List From: "DaPatriot1@aol.com" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; seventytwoP@hotmail.com Sent: Mon, February 8, 2010 2:53:22 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The Saints Hello all, I just wanted to share alittle story with you all about last night and some times. In a game where there was no bad guys, only good guys, In a game where 2 #1s played, In a game where MVP QBS matched up one of the GREATEST games emerged in the history of the NFL. I was suppose to go to a friends house for a superbowl party, but earlier in the week had some bad news. My father who had been having bad headaches and dizzy spells and weakness had gone into the DR for some tests. We dont know yet what the outcome is. We do know that the Catscan revealed a mass onhis brain and the Drs want to attempt radiation treatment. So needless to say I wanted to have the party at my house with the dad. All last minute planning to say the least. I was working saturday night untill sunday night at 5pm...so this was left to the bride. She went to KFC to a bucket of chicken, went to planet wings got wings, then got some hot dogs for my lil hotdog machine i have. Props go out to the bride for thowing it together and making it happen thanks honey. Back to dad. He arrived wearing my old Saints Starter jacket YES my saints jacket that he took from my closet years ago and he wears. He was pumped tobe at a superbowl party with his son and grand sons. I was quite pumped with the company as well. THe 4 of us had a blast talking about football and past superbowls. My son asked me why Pops has a saints jacket I told him itwas mine when i was a kid and pops wears it now....My dad went on to tell him that when your dad (ME) was a kid...he rooted for every underdog team.(hence why I liked the saints and The Patriots, even like the jets abit.) We talked about one year on my birthday...it was a sunday 10/27 not sure theyear, but we watched the saints Bobby Hebert was the QB, That game was watched myfather myself and my grandfather. ...THe saints lost, but that was one of the first times I started rooting for the saints Not a raging fan but in football I like a few teams Pats will always be my favorite team though. But I enjoy and root for a few. So let me close by saying Congrats to the New Orleans Saints for winning the Superbowl and Thanks to my dad for coming over last night andmaking one of the best memories i will have. And pray that I can have manymore Superbowl memories to come with my dad. Thank you guys for taking the time to read this Rob Gioia Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: Visit Your Group Start a New Topic OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.html Going Green: Your Yahoo! Groups resource for green living Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest =E2=A2 Unsubscribe =E2=A2 Terms ofUse ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:48:12 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Superbowl Sour Grapes Three of the four winning squares are right next to one of mine... the fourth one is two squares down from it. If you heard someone yelling "Miss the extra point!!" - it was me Oh well, winners will be getting their prizes as soon as I can get them to the post office. Congrats to Saints fans and the four winners. Ken M ================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:19:40 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Subject: SCD - Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards Available Hi! All, Since my retirement I've been working on the dungeion. It is now a livable and well-organized basement. The last remaining task at hand is to remove all the old ceiling tile and painting the ceiling. I've now got all my monster boxes on shelves now in year order which makes all the boxes more accessible & easier to get to. I've cleaned out an area (my library) which I had all my reference materials for cards and work. I've now got the following catalogs available if you want a particular year or whatever send me your address and I'll get them 2001 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2002 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2003 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2004 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2005 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2006 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2007 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 2008 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards I've also got some hockey and football checklist guides, too. But, I don't know how current they maybe. ================= Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:21:42 -0600 (CST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: The FamilyToad is the winner
Street was plowed at 12:28 today.

Brian picked 2:33 PM Monday--off by only two hours five minutes.
John Stamper was off by 3 1/2 hours picking 9:00 AM this morning.
Only snow/house bound for a little more than two days.
I will see what I can find to send west......and thanks for playing.
peter mead
================= Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:03:16 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, hoot_owl1@verizon.net From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The FamilyToad is the winner Oh so close! Did I forget to mention it was 9:00 am Pacific Time??? Glad you can get out of the house now John Stamper --- On Mon, 2/8/10, hoot_owl1@verizon.net wrote: From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The FamilyToad is the winner To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 11:21 AM Street was plowed at 12:28 today. Brian picked 2:33 PM Monday--off by only two hours five minutes. John Stamper was off by 3 1/2 hours picking 9:00 AM this morning. Only snow/house bound for a little more than two days. I will see what I can find to send west......and thanks for playing. peter mead ================= To: , Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:08:13 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- Well, I didn't peg it perfectly...but I guess I can change my earlier statement to say : Too late to go to work, but enough time to go to the post office and mail out MY winnings :) Tee Hee...I'm glad that you weren't shut in for longer than you were. You don't have to send anything, it's all fun. How about the other Baltimore area folks...EDDeee...Andy, others ? How's itlooking? OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; hoot_owl1@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- I can absolutely confirm that your street will be plowed Monday at 2:33 PM. Too late to go to work, but enough time to go to the post office to mail out the winnings :) OBC forever ----- Original Message ----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] only two votes so far---- Come on, I need to have some fun while we are street and house bound. Right now we have close to 30 inches of snow--but the BIG Question-- When will my street be plowed? Card(s) go to the winning guess. stay safe--my Washington/Baltimore OBC friends..... Peter Mead ================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 04:19:57 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: SIx Degrees of Gary Thurman OBCers -- Just a couple weeks to go and I'll be back home -- yippee!! I should be back in time for some March Madness, I hope - sort of depends when my replacement shows up and when the next rotator flight heads back west. This should be the last time I deploy, as I'm looking to retire around Christmas time...that's not in stone yet, but it's not far from it! My wife sends me my mail every couple of weeks and today I had a nice surprise - a Gary Thurman card from Bob Reed! He was accompanied by another gem from 1952, but you have to read more to find out who...time for the Six Degrees of Gary Thurman! 1) Thurman was drafted in the 1st Round of the 1983 Amateur Draft, as the #21 pick of the Royals. He was only two picks behind Roger Clemens, and shared first round honors with ex-Cubbie notables like Dan Plesac, CalvinSchiraldi, and Dave Clark. As for the Royals, they picked up a couple long-time big leaguers, Todd Zeile and.....KEVIN SEITZER! 2) Now Seitzer appeared in 1439 games in the bigs, but before the Royalstook him, he was a local hero in my home state of Illinois, but not at thehome of the Fighting Illini. Seitzer did his work with the Panthers of Eastern Illinois University. Two decent pitchers also came from that school, one being Seitzer's Panther teammate, Randy Myers (another ex-Cubbie). But the pitcher at EIU that has a local tavern named for him from his heady days of yore, was none other than.....MARTY PATTIN! 3) Now Pattin was no slouch at Eastern, ending up going in the third round to the Angels in 1965.Unfortunately, Marty was turned aside in the1969 Expansion Draft to anchor the Seattle Pilots. How could theAngels let him go? They just didn't have much roomfor him with stalwarts like Andy Messersmith, Rudy May, George Brunet, and......PEDRO BORBON!! 4) Of course, being a relief pitcher, Borbon was no hitter. As a matter of fact, he only got to the dish 156 times in his career, finishing justabove the Mendoza line with a .205 BA, although he did manage two doubles in those 12 years. So if Borbon ever made it to the plate, you can be sure that he would be pinch-hit for, but by who? The Reds were obviously loaded in Borbon's prime, but that's not who I'm thinking of. I'm going way back to Ted Striker's famous words, under extreme pressure, with the call "Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon...MANNY MOTA...Mota..." If you don't now what I'm talking about, you need to Goggle it - and shame on you... 5) Of course, Mota made his living as a pinch-hitter - to include his one-and-only All Star game appearance in 1973. After Pete Rose went 0-3, he was pulled from the lead-off spot for Mota to get a pinch hitting appearance, with a spot in left field to follow. With the NL comfortably out infront, Bob Watson came in on a 9th inning flip-flop for Manny. The new pitcher that moved into Mota's spot in the line-upeventually got credit for a save. That pitcher....JIM BREWER! 6) Brewer falls into that abyss thatothers have in this ramble, that of being an ex-Cub pitcher. He was performing admirably in that role in a 1960 game against the Reds when a brushback pitch to a certain fireplug resulted in the batter charging the mound after throwing his bat at Brewer. Brewer picked up the bat to hand it back to the Reds player, who then promptly punched him in the face, breaking his cheekbone. Who was this firey Red? None other than...BILLY MARTIN! 7) OK, I couldn't get there in six degrees, but we all know Billy Martin's best buddy was...MICKEY MANTLE!! Are you kidding me?!? Bob sent mea 1952 Mickey Mantle?!? No, but who gave up Mantle's first home run of his career? That's right...thanks for the 1952 RANDY GUMPERT!! Amazing what being in a tent with nothing bu Goggle can do for you...thanks, Take Care, ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:20:15 -0500 From: directorth@aol.com Subject: Re:SIx Degrees of Gary Thurman Very nice detective work, Geno! Although the makers of "Airplane" did make a goof - because Mota could havenever pinch hit for Borbon, since they never played on the same team. Surely I can't be serious! ================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:53:06 -0500 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:SIx Degrees of Gary Thurman While Manny never pinch hit for Borbon, who could ever forget that memorable day in Manny's final season of 1982, playing out the string for the Dodgers, when Tommy Lasorda put him in the lineup batting 8th, between outfielder Del Unser and pitcher Mike Dunne. Which, of course, made him under Unser and over Dunne. ---- directorth@aol.com wrote: > Very nice detective work, Geno! > Although the makers of "Airplane" did make a goof - because Mota could have never pinch hit for Borbon, since they never played on the same team. Surely I can't be serious! ================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:56:28 -0500 To: directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:SIx Degrees of Gary Thurman While Manny never pinch hit for Borbon, who could ever forget that memorable day in Manny's final season of 1982, playing out the string for the Dodgers, when Tommy Lasorda put him in the lineup batting 8th, between outfielder Del Unser and pitcher Mike Dunne. Which, of course, made him under Unser and over Dunne. ---- directorth@aol.com wrote: > Very nice detective work, Geno! > Although the makers of "Airplane" did make a goof - because Mota could have never pinch hit for Borbon, since they never played on the same team. Surely I can't be serious! ================= To: malsman250@neo.rr.com, directorth@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:24:55 -0500 From: directorth@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:SIx Degrees of Gary Thurman ...and that fits perfectly into the Airplane script. Roger, Roger? Thanks for the laugh! -----Original Message----- From: malsman250@neo.rr.com To: directorth@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 2:53 pm Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:SIx Degrees of Gary Thurman While Manny never pinch hit for Borbon, who could ever forget that memorable n Manny's final season of 1982, playing out the string for the Dodgers, when ommy Lasorda put him in the lineup batting 8th, between outfielder Del Unser nd pitcher Mike Dunne. Which, of course, made him under Unser and over Dunne. ---- directorth@aol.com wrote: Very nice detective work, Geno! Although the makers of "Airplane" did make a goof - because Mota could have ever pinch hit for Borbon, since they never played on the same team. SurelyI an't be serious! ================= Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:50:11 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rjsharks" Subject: Trivia help I need to know... Did Ty Cobb ever hit a home run in the regular season against Cy Young? Randy Welk ================= To: , OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:22:57 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Trivia help According to his HR log on baseball-reference it looks like the answer is no. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/event_hr.cgi?n1cobbty01&tb To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rjsfgmv@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 21:50:11 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Trivia help I need to know... Did Ty Cobb ever hit a home run in the regular season against Cy Young? Randy Welk Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ================= Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:48:56 -0800 (PST) To: EEK From: George Vrechek Subject: Zack Grakal California Sportscards/Beverly Hills Sportscards I stopped into Zack's store today. He got copied on some of the OBC comments and was surprised. He felt that while they make some goofs that they do respond to email and orders.He found that some of their outgoing emails werewinding up in spam folders of customers. At any rate he gave me the 1956 Powell card thatEarl K wasmissing and I'll stick it in the mail to Earl. If anyone else is short something, I's suggest a phone call or another email - mention OBC. Grakal has been in business 27 years and a number of collectors in the areasaid that he has the best store and selection in LA. I found a few more variations today (1967 #223 Mike Ryan without a dot on the"i" and a 1952 Topps 3rd series grayback - $7 total) and was treated like everyone else in the store and he had a pretty good crowd. George Vrechek --- On Sun, 2/7/10, EEK wrote: From: EEK Subject: Re: Fw: Order Update To: "George Vrechek" Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 2:17 PM No, I never heard back aftersending the e-mail. "we keep what we give away!" From: George Vrechek To: EEK Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 2:58:40 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Order Update did you get Powell yet? --- On Sun, 2/7/10, EEK wrote: From: EEK Subject: Fw: Order Update To: "George Vrechek" Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:27 PM Here is one of several e-mails I sent in reply to his order confirmation. I'vealso highlighted his comment about replying to his e-mailif questions. I understand that he probablygets alot of e-mails, however if he doesn't have time to read them he should not encourage people to respond in that manner. Same with the discount, if the code doesn't work don't advertise it. Good business practice is to under promise, over deliver not the opposite. Thanks for responding & providing an opportunity to vent my frustration. "we keep what we give away!" ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: EEK To: Zack Grakal Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 10:48:16 AM Subject: Fw: Order Update I RECENTLY RECEIVED THE ORDER AS BELOW WITHOUT THE HIGHLIGHTED CARD. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: California Sports Cards To: Earl Kilbourn Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 2:48:43 PM Subject: Order Update California Sports Cards Order Number: 3460 Detailed Invoice: https://www.californiasportscards.com/account_history_info.php?order_id3460 Date Ordered: Saturday 28 November, 2009 Comment: 420484399101805213907844514455 Your order has been updated to the following status. New status: Shipped Please reply to this email if you have any questions. 1 x 1958 Topps Red Wilson (Detroit Tigers) #213 - Very Good $2.00 1 x 1958 Topps Johnny Groth (Detroit Tigers) #262 - Good $1.20 1 x 1958 Topps Charley Lau (Detroit Tigers) #448 - Good $1.50 1 x 1958 Topps Hank Aguirre (Detroit Tigers) #337 - Good $1.20 1 x 1983 Topps Traded Steve Boros (Oakland Athletics) #013 - Near Mint 1 x 1959 Topps Steve Boros (Detroit Tigers) #331 - Good $0.60 1 x 1960 Topps Pirates Coaches-Mickey Vernon-Frank Oceak-Sam N (Pittsburgh Pirates) #467 - Poor to Fair $0.80 1 x 1960 Topps Gil Hodges WS4 (Los Angeles Dodgers) #388 - Poor to Fair 1 x 1960 Topps World Series Game 3-Carl Furillo-Breaks Game (Los AngelesDodgers) #387 - Poor to Fair $0.80 1 x 1960 Topps Vada Pinson (Cincinnati Reds) #176 - Poor to Fair $0.60 1 x 1969 Topps Jim Perry (Minnesota Twins) #146 - Good $0.38 1 x 1969 Topps Howard/Horton/Harrelson LL #005 - Good $0.60 1 x 1969 Topps AL RBI Leaders-Ken Harrelson-Frank Howard-Jim N (A.L. R.B.I. Leaders) #003 - Good $0.60 1 x 1977 Topps Ron Pruitt (Cleveland Indians) #654 - Excellent $0.25 1 x 1975 Topps Joe Rudi (Oakland Athletics) #045 - Very Good-Excellent $0.35 1 x 1975 Topps 1970 MVP's-Boog Powell-Johnny Bench (MVP) #208 - Very Good-Excellent 1 x 1975 Topps Joe Rudi (Oakland Athletics) #465 - Very Good-Excellent $0.35 1 x 1975 Topps Herb Washington (Oakland Athletics) #407 - Excellent-Mint 1 x 1956 Topps Leroy Powell (Chicago White Sox) #144 - Poor to Fair $1.20 1 x 1962 Post Jim Perry (Cleveland Indians) #043 - Poor to Fair $0.30 Sub-Total: $16.18 United States Postal Service (Shipping and Handling): $5.00 Total: $21.18 Delivery Address Earl Kilbourn 6151 Cold Springs Trail Grand Blanc, MI 48439 United States ================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:22:56 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rrrlyons" Subject: spring training -Arizona anyone going to be in Arizona March 6-14. Rick ================= To: rrrlyons@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:18:51 -0500 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] spring training -Arizona I will be at Spring Training in AZ from March 12th-14th for my baseball bachelor party. I arrive early on the 12th and that is probably the only day Imight be available for a meet. I am staying in Glendale and will have a car. Looking forward to hitting some AZ card shops at some point. -----Original Message----- From: rrrlyons To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:22 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] spring training -Arizona anyone going to be in Arizona March 6-14. Rick OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:58:04 -0800 (PST) To: Wite3@aol.com, rrrlyons@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] spring training -Arizona I don't know how familiar you guys are with the Phoenix area, but in my experience there is a real dearth of good card shops. There is a regular show (or at least there was a couple years back) at Arizona Mills shopping mall in Tempe. Mostly new stuff, but you might getlucky. I've bought some stuff from these guys - SMA360 - a few times. I'm not sureif they just deal online, or if they'd be happy to entertain personal callers. (On second thoughts, I've just had a look at their website.....lots ofoverpriced new stuff...maybe not worth the trouble) Good luck in your quest, gentlemen! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List From: "Wite3@aol.com" To: rrrlyons@msn.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 2:18:51 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] spring training -Arizona I will be at Spring Training in AZ from March 12th-14th for my baseball bachelor party. I arrive early on the 12th and that is probably the only day Imight be available for a meet. I am staying in Glendale and will have a car. Looking forward to hitting some AZ card shops at some point. -----Original Message----- From: rrrlyons To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2010 8:22 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] spring training -Arizona anyone going to be in Arizona March 6-14. Rick ------------ --------- --------- ------ OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball. com/obcroc. htmlYahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/OBC- Ramblings/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/OBC- Ramblings/ join (Yahoo! ID required) OBC-Ramblings- digest@yahoogrou ps.com OBC-Ramblings- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com OBC-Ramblings- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/ ================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:04:01 EST To: vrechek@ameritech.net From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Zack Grakal California Sportscards/Beverly Hills Sportsca... Content-Language: en can you pick up the 52 mantle that Zack forgot to send me. tell him i already paid for it. good time to be out of chicago -- 8 inches of snow downtown yesterday and an earhtquake not far from here this morning In a message dated 2/9/2010 6:49:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: I stopped into Zack's store today. He got copied on some of the OBC comments and was surprised. He felt that while they make some goofs that they respond to email and orders.He found that some of their outgoing emails were winding up in spam folders of customers. At any rate he gave me the 1956 Powell card that Earl K was missing and I'll stick it in the mail to Earl. If anyone else is short something, I's suggest a phone call or another email - mention OBC. Grakal has been in business 27 years and a number of collectors in the area said that he has the best store and selection in LA. I found a few more variations today (1967 #223 Mike Ryan without a dot on the "i" and a 1952 Topps 3rd series grayback - $7 total) and was treated like everyone else in the store and he had a pretty good crowd. George Vrechek --- On Sun, 2/7/10, EEK wrote: From: EEK Subject: Re: Fw: Order Update To: "George Vrechek" Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 2:17 PM No, I never heard back after sending the e-mail. "we keep what we give away!" From: George Vrechek To: EEK Sent: Sun, February 7, 2010 2:58:40 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Order Update did you get Powell yet? --- On Sun, 2/7/10, EEK wrote: From: EEK Subject: Fw: Order Update To: "George Vrechek" Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 12:27 PM Here is one of several e-mails I sent in reply to his order confirmation. I've also highlighted his comment about replying to his e-mail if questions. I understand that he probably gets alot of e-mails, however if he doesn't have time to read them he should not encourage people to respond in manner. Same with the discount, if the code doesn't work don't advertise it. Good business practice is to under promise, over deliver not the opposite. Thanks for responding & providing an opportunity to vent my frustration. "we keep what we give away!" ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: EEK To: Zack Grakal Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 10:48:16 AM Subject: Fw: Order Update I RECENTLY RECEIVED THE ORDER AS BELOW WITHOUT THE HIGHLIGHTED CARD. ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: California Sports Cards To: Earl Kilbourn Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 2:48:43 PM Subject: Order Update California Sports Cards Order Number: 3460 Detailed Invoice: _https://www.https://www. Subject: OBC-friendly dealer Roger Neufeldt Since Joe asked for feedback on anyone, I'll start with a shoo-in for the dealer HOF in my opinion: Roger Neufeldt. Roger visits Atlanta 4 times per year, is friendly, attracts a good crowd, and runs a classy weekend card show. He has an excellent selection from the 19th century thru the early 1970's and is OBC friendly. By this I mean primarily that - in addition to the aforementioned info - he stocks cards in all conditions, knocks an OBC discount off the top of your net total and is even willing to "haggle" with you beyond that number. I could go on and on, but I'm certain that at least thevets in OBC know Roger and that most all of you who have dealt with him know his spot is warranted on our list. Finally, I will add that whether I have $20 or $200 to spend (usually the former now that I have 3 kids), I always look forward to at least visiting Roger when he comes to town. He is one of the "old school" card guys who canspin some great yarns from being both a collector and a dealer (and of course, a fan of this great game.) There are a scant few card stores left in GA, so it's a treat to get the personal card touch from a personable guy like OBC - You gotta love it! ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:40:45 -0500 From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: obc friendly dealer Jimmy Cardacia Hey all, One of my favorite dealers at the white plains ny shows is jimmy cardacia. He also sells on ebay, but he has a variety of vintage and uv cards. Atshows Jimmy always takes care of me weather I spend a couple hundred dollars or ten dollars. Jimmy will generally give me a 40% discount on his prices sometimes more on his higher priced cards. I introduced a few obcers to him at shows, and I believe he gives them the same discount. I have NEVER had a problem with jimmy I think Tom massimo and bob bannon can attest to jimmys worthyness of obc dealer as well. Rob "THE FIREMAN" Gioia ================= To: Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:20:55 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Withdrawal Today will mark the 5th day in a row without any mail service. Has anyone even heard of this before? I live right in the middle of DC...so it's not like they have to plow a country road or anything. No possibility of new cardboard arriving is quite a downer. On the bright side, I get to avoid the commute. Last night, the buses stopped running after two inches of snow fell...two inches! Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= To: , "group, DugoutTraders" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:00:15 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: Can baseball cards be investments?? A friend asked me a question recently that I couldn't answer and wonder if I could get some of your educated opinions. He asked - What if someone were to buy a somewhat high end vintage card, genuine, for, say, at least $10,000, and kept it for a couple years or more. Would he always be able to get his money back by re-selling, even if the economy tanked again, or would it's re-sale value generally follow the downturn of the economy, like I sense ordinary commons would? In other words, Iguess he was asking if the higher end cards are more recession-proof, in that they become not just a baseball card, but something of a higher-end collectible, like art or other expensive antiques. I can't answer since my interest is almost all as just a collector, not investor, but would be interested in hearing opinions. Richard D ================= To: , "group, DugoutTraders" Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:24:47 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Can baseball cards be investments?? Perhaps my choice of $10,000 may be too low to be relevant, but maybe thereis a dollar amount that elevates a baseball card above the vagaries of theeconomy?? To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com; octraders@yahoogroups.com; From: brightair@msn.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:00:15 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Can baseball cards be investments?? A friend asked me a question recently that I couldn't answer and wonder if I could get some of your educated opinions. He asked - What if someone were to buy a somewhat high end vintage card, genuine, for, say, at least $10,000, and kept it for a couple years or more. Would he always be able to get his money back by re-selling, even if the economy tanked again, or would it's re-sale value generally follow the downturn of the economy, like I sense ordinary commons would? In other words, Iguess he was asking if the higher end cards are more recession-proof, in that they become not just a baseball card, but something of a higher-end collectible, like art or other expensive antiques. I can't answer since my interest is almost all as just a collector, not investor, but would be interested in hearing opinions. Richard D ================= To: obcmac@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:26:35 -0500 From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Withdrawal Hey all, and MAC isnt the Post Office motto: Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers fromthe swift completion of their appointed rounds. Geeze Snow is the top one. I guess your mail man must be NEWMAN....lol Sorry for the withdrawal.... look on the bright side when you finally get mail you will have ALOT of it -----Original Message----- From: Mac Wubben To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 12:20 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Withdrawal Today will mark the 5th day in a row without any mail service. Has anyone even heard of this before? I live right in the middle of DC...so it's not like they have to plow a country road or anything. No possibility of new cardboard arriving is quite a downer. On the bright side, I get to avoid the commute. Last night, the buses stopped running after two inches of snow fell...two inches! Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. ================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:41:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: ebay trick sellers use to avoid selling cards too cheap? I think I have run across an ebay trick sellers use to avoid selling cards for below what they want for them. I place a bid of $10 on a card with an opening bid of $9.99. So I am the high bidder at $9.99. No one else bids on the card and suddenly I get a bid cancellation notice from ebay concerning a card I bid on. it reads like this: Ok, I go to the item page to view the reason for the cancellation and read this as the reason for the cancellation: How can the seller cancel the item by a reason of "No bids have been placed" when I placed a bid? Ebay notifies me that an item I bid on has been cancelled then ebay lets the seller list as reason as no bids have been placed even though I bid on the I just don't understand this? Any comments or explanation? I don't think ebay should allow sellers to cancel items that have bids placed on them for the reason "No bids have been placed" when a bid has been placed. ================= To: brightair@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:10:56 -0500 From: ricktopps@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Can baseball cards be investments?? I believe that your question is a very interesting one and one that will beunlikely to reach a consensus. The answer to your question is very complex and likely dependent on many factors such as the economy, the stock market etc. My general feeling is that if you are buying cards as an investment it is a high reward, but very high risk sort of investment. If one could have known what was going to happen to the 1952 Topps high numbers we would have snapped them up at $5 a piece in the early 80's. We would have been even wiser to pay the $10 that itmight have taken to get the very high grade ones. Unfortunately, it is too late for that. If you were to invest $100,000 in a high grade 1952 Toppsset today what will it be worth in 30 years? Maybe it will be worth a lotmore, but it also could be nearly worthless. Who is to say what is the best investment. Some would say the markets, real estate, or even gold. I personally would put baseball cards in a similargroup with coins, art etc which have done well, but still seem to be riskier than many other investments. In good times, they may appreciate quickerthan stocks, but I believe that if we encountered bad economic times the demand for the cards would go way down and their value would plummet. My simple philosophy is that my collection is strictly for fun. I'm not expecting it to make me money and in fact would not be terribly decimated if they lose their value. Its much less stressful that way, and I don't have to worry about it as an investment. Rick Johnson -----Original Message----- From: richard dingman To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; group, DugoutTraders ; OCT group ; VCTgroup Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 1:00 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Can baseball cards be investments?? A friend asked me a question recently that I couldn't answer and wonder if I could get some of your educated opinions. He asked - What if someone were to buy a somewhat high end vintage card, genuine, for, say, at least $10,000, and kept it for a couple years or more. Would he always be able to get his money back by re-selling, even if the economy tanked again, or would it's re-sale value generally follow the downturn of the economy, like I sense ordinary commons would? In other words, Iguess he was asking if the higher end cards are more recession-proof, in that they become not just a baseball card, but something of a higher-end collectible, like art or other expensive antiques. I can't answer since my interest is almost all as just a collector, not investor, but would be interested in hearing opinions. Richard D ================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:41:37 EST To: ricktopps@aol.com, brightair@msn.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Can baseball cards be investments?? Considering every investment I make turns out badly at best and I spend a lot on cards, I would assume cards are going to go down in value. Then again, I have never spent $10,000 on a single card, although my 52 Topps Mantle did set me back a chunk of money. We have previously had discussions on who will be around to buy our collections when many of us pass on. The reality is, fewer people are going into the hobby. Demand will fall in general, although there may be certain items that demand will increase. In our society, it would make sense that high grade, high end cards will continue to go up. Some people want what no one else has. I would not bet the ranch on a card going up, but odds are a $10,000 card will at least hold its value and will probably continue to go up. Mike Rich In a message dated 2/10/10 6:12:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, ricktopps@aol.com writes: > I believe that your question is a very interesting one and one that will > be unlikely to reach a consensus. > The answer to your question is very complex and likely dependent on many > factors such as the economy, the stock market etc. My general feeling is > that if you are buying cards as an investment it is a high reward, but very > high risk sort of investment. If one could have known what was going to > happen to the 1952 Topps high numbers we would have snapped them up at $5 a > piece in the early 80's. We would have been even wiser to pay the $10 that > it might have taken to get the very high grade ones. Unfortunately, it is > too late for that. If you were to invest $100,000 in a high grade 1952 > Topps set today what will it be worth in 30 years? Maybe it will be worth a > lot more, but it also could be nearly worthless. > Who is to say what is the best investment. Some would say the markets, > real estate, or even gold. I personally would put baseball cards in a > similar group with coins, art etc which have done well, but still seem to be > riskier than many other investments. In good times, they may appreciate > quicker than stocks, but I believe that if we encountered bad economic times the > demand for the cards would go way down and their value would plummet. > My simple philosophy is that my collection is strictly for fun. I'm not > expecting it to make me money and in fact would not be terribly decimated if > they lose their value. Its much less stressful that way, and I don't have > to worry about it as an investment. ================= Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:47:25 -0500 To: uvlist@yahoogroups.com, obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Available: Collection of former Seahawks / Huskies players Hi all, I'm cleaning out the dustier parts of my collection and wonder if an OBCer (or someone you know) would enjoy about 200 cards of former UW Huskies and Seahawks players. (Best known players are Warren Moon, Mark Brunell, and Corey Dillon.) ================= To: james_moleta@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:11:05 -0500 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC-friendly dealer Roger Neufeldt I concur...I see Roger maybe once every 4 or 5 years and he still remembers me and my collecting interests....great dealer!!! -----Original Message----- From: JamesM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 7:22 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC-friendly dealer Roger Neufeldt Since Joe asked for feedback on anyone, I'll start with a shoo-in for the dealer HOF in my opinion: Roger Neufeldt. Roger visits Atlanta 4 times per year, is friendly, attracts a good crowd, and runs a classy weekend card show. He has excellent selection from the 19th century thru the early 1970's and is OBC friendly. By this I mean primarily that - in addition to the aforementionedinfo - he stocks cards in all conditions, knocks an OBC discount off the top of your net total and is even willing to "haggle" with you beyond that number. I could go on and on, but I'm certain that at least the vets in OBC know Roger and that most all of you who have dealt with him know his spot is warranted on our list. Finally, I will add that whether I have $20 or $200 to spend (usually the former now that I have 3 kids), I always look forward to at least visiting Roger when he comes to town. He is one of the "old school" card guys who can spin some great yarns from being both a collector and a dealer (and of course, a fan of this great game.) There are a scant few card stores left in GA, so it's a treat to get the personal card touch from a personable guy like Roger. OBC - You gotta love it! OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 04:12:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Good low grade vintage lot on ebay including 52 Bowman Musial I found this very good low grade vintage lot on ebay. One of the best lots I have seen. And you can make an offer: ebay # 230428021659 Is $177 a good buy it now price for this lot? This lot should go to an OBCer. ================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:10:06 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: George Vrechek Subject: Dealer Roger Neufeldt I would second all the comments about Roger. I always seem to find something at his table. He helped me with my research on Burdick and Barker. He metBuck Barker and described what it was like when Barker came to a show (he had gobs of OBC stuff and sold for under market so people would line up.) He also spent time describing the old hobby shows and finds from the past. While all dealers need to make a profit off us in order to be induced to lug all the stuff around, buying from Roger is a painless experience.He isone of the true hobby nice guys. George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:51:01 -0800 (PST) To: George Vrechek , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt This is good info to have. It might be good to have a section on the dealers page for OBcers to make comments about specific dealers? Perhaps this is an "we keep what we give away!" From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 12:10:06 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt I would second all the comments about Roger. I always seem to find something at his table. He helped me with my research on Burdick and Barker. He metBuck Barker and described what it was like when Barker came to a show (he had gobs of OBC stuff and sold for under market so people would line up.) He also spent time describing the old hobby shows and finds from the past. While all dealers need to make a profit off us in order to be induced to lug all the stuff around, buying from Roger is a painless experience.Heis one of the true hobby nice guys. George Vrechek ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:04:51 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt I like this idea, but I'm not sure how much we really need it. The reason a dealer is on the list in the first place is because we like and endorse their business practices, right? No one else should be on there. ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: George Vrechek ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt This is good info to have. It might be good to have a section on the dealers page for OBcers to make comments about specific dealers? Perhaps this is an OBCAC item? "we keep what we give away!" From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 12:10:06 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt I would second all the comments about Roger. I always seem to find something at his table. He helped me with my research on Burdick and Barker. He met Buck Barker and described what it was like when Barker came to a show (he had gobs of OBC stuff and sold for under market so people would line up.) He also spent time describing the old hobby shows and finds from the past. While all dealers need to make a profit off us in order to be inducedto lug all the stuff around, buying from Roger is a painless experience. He is one of the true hobby nice guys. George Vrechek ================= To: "EEK" Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:30:33 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Comments on Dealers I still like the idea. There is a lot more to a good dealer than simply having OBC grade product available at good prices. I think one true test of "good" is when a mistake happens, how quickly and how well does the dealer make corrections to right the issue. Comments like those could be of extreme value, but again, if a dealer doesn't respond and fix issues with personal and attentive customer service which requires us to post less than outstanding comments about them, then I simply don't want to see their name up there in the first place. ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: Walker Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt The idea is to get specifics regarding various OBCers experience with a dealer, comments good or bad. Had I known several other OBCers had the same issues with California Sports Cards, I would have responded differently. It'sa principle similar to e-bay's ratings where you can review comments aboutsellers prior to buying. "we keep what we give away!" From: Walker To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 5:04:51 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt I like this idea, but I'm not sure how much we really need it. The reason a dealer is on the list in the first place is because we like and endorse their business practices, right? No one else should be on there. ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: George Vrechek ; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt This is good info to have. It might be good to have a section on the dealers page for OBcers to make comments about specific dealers? Perhaps this is an OBCAC item? "we keep what we give away!" From: George Vrechek To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thu, February 11, 2010 12:10:06 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer Roger Neufeldt I would second all the comments about Roger. I always seem to find something at his table. He helped me with my research on Burdick and Barker. He met Buck Barker and described what it was like when Barker came to a show (he had gobs of OBC stuff and sold for under market so people would line up.) He also spent time describing the old hobby shows and finds from the past. While all dealers need to make a profit off us in order to be inducedto lug all the stuff around, buying from Roger is a painless experience. He is one of the true hobby nice guys. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:51:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "kevin71058" Subject: Need help IDing a set Hi all, Someone sent me some APBA cards The front of the card is Blue with the words APBA , A Baseball in the middle of the card (inside the baseball it says Major League. and under the ball is the word Baseball Any Help would be appreciated, Can it be the 1981 APBA set? Best Regards, Kevin Martens ================= Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:40:38 EST To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: 1947-66 Exhibits Available Several months ago, I gave Roger Neufeldt my Exhibits dupes - a binder with 192 cards - to try to sell. I got it back this week. Needless to say, there are no super-difficult cards in the binder, but if you have an easy list to hit, or would like to start a set, or have a favorite team or player, please let me know. Take care, Brock H. ================= Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:21:01 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: George Vrechek Subject: SABR? Goodie Goldfadenrecently encouraged me to join SABR. I have some old newsletters from Goodie and visited the SABRwebsite. I couldn't find any OBCeron our website when searching "SABR."There must be some OBCSABRmembers out there? I'm interested in your feedback as to benefits of membership, publications, and meetings. Any info appreciated. George Vrechek ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:26:17 -0500 From: mma3026559@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? I've been a SABR member for many years. There are many advantages to membership, minimally the publications that are sent to members. The local chapter meetings can vary drastically. Currently the Lefty O'Doul (San Francisco)and Sacramento chapters are quite active and have gatherings about ten times per year, attracting between 30 & 50 local members. Other regional chapters are either inactive (1 meeting or less per year) or are not heavily supported. While some SABR members are collectors, there is not a focus in that area. Most member have an intermediate to advanced level of interest in acertain aspect of baseball history. On the National scene, there are committees that members can involve themselves with, from the Minor League committee to the Pictorial committee, to biographies. There is a SABR National ,which rotates around the country and it attracts several hundreds diehardsevery year. There are usually a number of advanced presentations at the National, an opportunity to meet a number of authors, and like the Sports Collectors National, an opportunity to meet others with a similar interest. -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:21 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? Goodie Goldfaden recently encouraged me to join SABR. I have some old newsletters from Goodie and visited the SABR website. I couldn't find any OBCer on our website when searching "SABR." There must be some OBC SABR members out there? I'm interested in your feedback as to benefits of membership, publications, and meetings. Any info appreciated. George Vrechek ================= Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:22:06 -0500 To: George Vrechek From: Jimmy Parker Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? Heartily recommend SABR to any OBCers who truly have a love for the game (are there any that don't?). Even if, like me, you live in an area without an active chapter the benefits are numerous. Just the publications themselves are worth it in my opinion. But add in the research resources that are available, and it's priceless. With all the research and the great articles you've done on the hobby, I don't think you'd be disappointed. As a matter of fact, I've often wondered why there isn't a cards or collectibles committee and perhaps that's something that could be looked into. Probably my only complaint would be that sometimes some of the sabermetric discussion veers a bit into the surreal for me (I flunked high school algebra), but by and large a great group putting out some quality baseball pieces. Hope this helps, Jimmy "Catfish" Parker ...Save the gum for me! On Feb 12, 2010, at 7:21 PM, George Vrechek wrote: > Goodie Goldfaden recently encouraged me to join SABR. I have some > old newsletters from Goodie and visited the SABR website. I > couldn't find any OBCer on our website when searching "SABR." There > must be some OBC SABR members out there? I'm interested in your > feedback as to benefits of membership, publications, and meetings. > Any info appreciated. > George Vrechek ================= To: "oBC Ramblings" Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:10:43 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: Super Success! We are over 200 hits already! I'm on vacation for a week, so there won't be another update until then, but keep emailing me with those numbers! And Bob... Anything we can shoot at ? :) ================= To: vrechek@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:09:12 -0500 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? I am a member and have been for over a decade...I have been to two local meeting and they were interesting. The publications are great and the wealth of knowledge is impressive. -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:21 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? Goodie Goldfaden recently encouraged me to join SABR. I have some old newsletters from Goodie and visited the SABR website. I couldn't find any OBCer on our website when searching "SABR." There must be some OBC SABR members out there? I'm interested in your feedback as to benefits of membership, publications, and meetings. Any info appreciated. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:37:25 EST To: Wite3@aol.com, vrechek@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? Content-Language: en So am i. Until My recent complete Achilles tendon tear i enjoyed playing vintage base ball ( that how it is spelled) along with what Josh said. I also enjoy the convention (this year in Atlanta to get to see old friends and visit other ball parks In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:09:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, Wite3@aol.com writes: I am a member and have been for over a decade...I have been to two local meeting and they were interesting. The publications are great and the wealth of knowledge is impressive. -----Original Message----- From: George Vrechek To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 4:21 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] SABR? Goodie Goldfaden recently encouraged me to join SABR. I have some old newsletters from Goodie and visited the SABR website. I couldn't find any OBCer on our website when searching "SABR." There must be some OBC SABR members out there? I'm interested in your feedback as to benefits of membership, publications, and meetings. Any info appreciated. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:24:56 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: '53B Color Pee Wee Reese TriplePlayVintage on ebay currently have a '53B Color Reese for $68( on Buy It Now)Looks pretty nice! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:10:14 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: super bowl grid Can someone send me the super bowl grid please. Thanks, Bob ================= To: Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:15:24 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Still no mail... Wow, this is getting tough. After a one day reprieve last saturday, the lack of mail service resumed yesterday. So that makes one day out of the last eleven with mail (and no, that one day didn't have a weeks worth of mail). Last week's snow also pulled down the cable/phone/internet line as well...so options are getting thin (though it did hang together for the durationof the storm at least). I am thankful that I have both heat and electricity, but this is getting tough. My iphone keeps me sort of connected, but now that's dying too...apparently doesn't like the cold any more that the post office does. So if communication is slow, you know why. Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:27:41 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Got the grid thanks. ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 08:01:21 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: The '65 Mantle falls! Woo-hoo! Thanks to a boring day at work - one of those where I spend my spare time surfing around on ebay - I was able to score a 1965T Mickey Mantle that just came up on "Buy It Now" for$54. Just a little paper loss on the upper left, but a clean back. That's the biggest of the remaining '65s gone, leaving just 20 to go. To me, this is a GOOD day!! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:10:25 -0600 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Ryan Distelrath Subject: The '65 Mantle falls! wooh! I'd take that one with tears, paper loss, tape, and pin holes! Great ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:15:59 -0600 (CST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: 1st set of 2010

Zach from California Sports Cards makes good on my order's missing card--but then I haven't had the issues some of you have had with this OBC dealer.  So Ernie Ladd completes my 1962 Fleer football set from the glory days of the old AFL.  One down--and here is hoping I can make it a few more before year's end.
thanks all,
Peter Mead
================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:24:14 -0600 To: Glenn Codere From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The '65 Mantle falls! Very nice find. I completed the '65 set a couple of years back thanks largely to OBC. When I scored my Mantle it was cheap but trimmed horribly. I felt I couldn't do any harm by making it the correct size as long as it was MY card so I borrowed some of a '82 Donruss and cobbled it together. It now fits perfectly in the binder. 65mm 65mmback This dude has tape, paper loss, creases, magic marker and bionic edges but it's not trimmed. Sort of. Greg (yaz) Glenn Codere wrote: > Woo-hoo! Thanks to a boring day at work - one of those where I spend > my spare time surfing around on ebay - I was able to score a 1965T > Mickey Mantle that just came up on "Buy It Now" for $54. Just a little > paper loss on the upper left, but a clean back. That's the biggest of > the remaining '65s gone, leaving just 20 to go. > To me, this is a GOOD day!! > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > > Glenn's Sports Collection Want List > ================= Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:32:56 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jerry Coker Subject: Standard Catalog 2009 vs 2010? I've been giving some thought to purchasing a newer Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards (I've been using a 2003). Does anyone know if there is that much difference in vintage card pricing between the 2009 issue and the 2010issue? I would just use it as a reference point for comparing with eBayprices primarily (although I will drool over all the scarce vintage oddball sets listed too ;) Thanks in advance! Jerry Coker ================= To: Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:39:53 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re:Standard Catalog 2009 vs 2010? Jerry's question re prices I have the 2008 and 2010 SCD Catalogs. Let's check a few: 1956 Topps set $9,000 NM 2008, $9,000 2010 1958 Topps set $8,500 NM 2008, $8,500 2010 1961 Topps set $7,500 NM 2008, $7,500 2010 1963 Topps set $5,200 NM 2008, $5,500 2010 1970 Topps set $2,400 NM 2008, $2,400 2010. 1975 Topps set $450 NM 2008, $650 2010 (although commons are still 40 cents) I don't have the 2009 guide but it looks like you could use the 2008 Catalog and be pretty close. My own hunch is that prices if anything are really softer than those prepared 6 or 8 months ago. George Vrechek ================= Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:47:26 EST To: vrechek@ameritech.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Standard Catalog 2009 vs 2010? My 2007 SCD has the same prices as George's quotes. Roger Neufeldt has told me recently that the 1952 Topps set is very hot right now, so those prices are probably increasing. ================= Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:56:17 -0600 To: Glenn Codere From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The '65 Mantle falls! Thought I sent some pics but I guess they disappeared. I'll try again and send them as attachments. Greg (yaz) Yaz wrote: > Glenn, > Very nice find. I completed the '65 set a couple of years back thanks > largely to OBC. When I scored my Mantle it was cheap but trimmed > horribly. I felt I couldn't do any harm by making it the correct size as > long as it was MY card so I borrowed some of a '82 Donruss and cobbled > it together. It now fits perfectly in the binder. > 65mm 65mmback This dude has tape, paper loss, creases, magic marker and > bionic edges but it's not trimmed. Sort of. > Greg (yaz) > Glenn Codere wrote: >> Woo-hoo! Thanks to a boring day at work - one of those where I spend >> my spare time surfing around on ebay - I was able to score a 1965T >> Mickey Mantle that just came up on "Buy It Now" for $54. Just a little >> paper loss on the upper left, but a clean back. That's the biggest of >> the remaining '65s gone, leaving just 20 to go. >> To me, this is a GOOD day!! >> Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music >> >> Glenn's Sports Collection Want List >> > ------------------------------------ > OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:30:50 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Larry Tipton Subject: Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and I spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks of cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots of hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return abig stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why he needed all those doubles, now she knew why!I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when he was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952sbecause they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended in Atlanta. ================= To: Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:11:55 -0600 From: "Mark Zentkovich" Subject: Fantasy Baseball league on yahoo We have a fantasy baseball group set up for us. It is drafting on Sunday night, March 14 at 9pm CST on Yahoo Sports. ID# 153939 PW- OBC Hope you can join us! http://home.earthlink.net/~mzentko/ ================= To: , Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:05:53 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, and I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and I spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks of cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots of hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why he needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when he was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended in Atlanta. ================= Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:10:55 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Brian, see if you can find some of Grant's great Blood Island updates, especially the one his wife wrote - I lost 'em all when I switched computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lindholme" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tipton" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, and I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and I spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks of cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots of hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bobsaid his wife wondered why he needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when he was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended in Atlanta. ================= To: "'Geordie Calvert'" , Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:16:47 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Speaking of which, Geordie=E2=A6.I am heading over to Blood Island firstthing tomorrow morning to see what Winter has left us with. There is always some sort of disaster that needs to be dealt with. I am taking splints and trauma dressings, and have notified the Coast Guard of my intentions, not that they will care, they will be in front of their TV set watching the Olympics, and praying for snow instead of sun. It=E2=99s not going to happen, it is just one of those funny years. And a slight correction=E2=A6=E2=A6it wasn=E2=99t MY wife who put out that classic of a Ramble, which I have also sadly lost but would love to see again=E2=A6..that was Mike Diamanti=E2=99s bride Kellen, =E2=A6=E2=A6Mike was kind enough to lend her to me for a short while, he=E2=99s a GREAT guy, very generous=E2=A6..and Kellen is a very smart lady, she hasn=E2=99t been back to Blood Island, in spite of a standing invitation. (Kellen=E2=A6.pssst=E2=A6.we even have a flush toilet at thecabin And speaking of Mikeeee-Java-Diamondo, I think his M=E2=99s have a legitshot at the pennant=E2=A6.it is just not a given for my Halos this year. The M=E2=99s made some solid moves. From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geordie Calvert Sent: February 19, 2010 8:11 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Brian, see if you can find some of Grant's great Blood Island updates, especially the one his wife wrote - I lost 'em all when I switched computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lindholme" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tipton" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, and I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and I spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks of cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots of hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bobsaid his wife wondered why he needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when he was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended in Atlanta. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2698 - Release Date: 02/19/10 11:34:00 ================= Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:27:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "gr1087" Subject: The Blood Island Saga.....found it! (Thanks Kellen!) Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings isso late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I am Kellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight more hours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and getus to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to be, and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even before the sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing for glory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent foundand brought our baggage, and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once they knew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers drove away. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series of rafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like a pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock with the bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed itor not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy.Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny,who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar -- find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and flies way below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy in some serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The west northwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shockingpink streak left the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain as we barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite ready for winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Or was it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What is this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by thelast night, I was putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boyswith my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherry bloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home island. Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to gohome, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pickus up 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossinglaundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhereas we locked the keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind of guy who doesn't break an oath. One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and ready to take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! ================= Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:17:29 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rjsharks" Subject: Anybody want these books Just ask My last waiver wire type thing - strat-o-matic, I am still working on. It got messy for reasons I won't bore you with. But some of that stuff will goout as I still have a list of interested people. I collect books and over the years got tons and duplicates and some I am not interested in. Some are old and goofy but maybe you want some. Here they are. Most in like new condition. Baseball Days,from the sandlot to the show. Sort of coffee table book Behind the Mask, Dave Pallone Marge Schott unleashed Tim McCarver, Oh Baby I love it Your missing a great game, Whitey Herzog On the Run, The never dull and shocking life of maury Wills Darryl, Darryl Strawberry I love this game, Kirby Puckett Balls, Graig Nettles I Ain't an athlete Lady, John Kruk Once a bum always a Dodger, Don Drysdale Nothing but the truth, a baseball life, Don Baylor Joe and Marilyn, A Memory of Love, Roger Kahn. Yikes Built to Win, Inside stories of winning GMs, John Schuerholtz Play Ball, The life and troubled times of MLB, John Feinstein The Diamond Revolution, The prospects for baseball after the collapse of the ruling class Coming apart at the seams, Jack Sands Mile High Madness, A year with the Colorado Rockies The Progress of the Seasons, 40 years of baseball in our town, George Higgins The Heart of the order, Thomas Boswell The Home run Game, Anthology of Baseball's Great Home runs Big League, Big Time, The birth of the Arizona Diamondbacks Crash, The Life and Times of Dick Allen Bill Games Great American Stat Book, 1988 Edition Elias Baseball analyst, 1987, 1989, 1991 Bill James, The Baseball Book 1990 Baseball Lives, Men and Women from the game talk a bout their job Babe, The Legend comes to life, Robert Creamer Over the edge, Jay Johnstone Catfish, My Life in Baseball, Catfish Hunter Where Have you Gone Joe Dimmagio, Maury Allen Joe, You could have made us Proud, Joe Pepitone ================= Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:46:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "kevin71058" Subject: A little Baseball Humor A LITTLE KNOWN BASEBALL FACT: The first testicular guard (Cup) was used in baseball in 1874 and the firstbaseball helmet was used in 1934. It took 60 years for men to realize that the brain is also important. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:17:44 -0500 From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: Re: Roger Neufeldt Hi Larry (and all): Hopell is well with you - do you happen to know where Roger lived when hebought those 52 highs? Was he in Brooklyn or some far flung place? This is a subject of research for me these days, as the attached link shows so appreciate any help or recollections of anyone here who bought 52 high numbers as a kid. Many thanks guys. -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 7:57 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 3193 There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1a. Roger Neufeldt From: Larry Tipton 1b. Re: Roger Neufeldt From: Brian Lindholme 1c. Re: Roger Neufeldt From: Geordie Calvert 1d. Re: Roger Neufeldt From: Grant Rainsley 2. Fantasy Baseball league on yahoo From: Mark Zentkovich 3. The Blood Island Saga.....found it! (Thanks Kellen!) From: gr1087 4. Anybody want these books From: rjsharks 1a. Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Larry Tipton" larrytipton@windstream.net tippytoesx4 Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:31 am ((PST)) I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended Messages in this topic (4) 1b. Re: Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Brian Lindholme" familytoad@comcast.net familytoad Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:04 pm ((PST)) Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and I spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I wouldswap big stacks of cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, find lots of hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why he needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended Messages in this topic (4) 1c. Re: Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Geordie Calvert" dodgergeo@comcast.net the_narrow_path Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:10 pm ((PST)) Brian, see if you can find some of Grant's great Blood Island updates, especially the one his wife wrote - I lost 'em all when I switched computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lindholme" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tipton" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended Messages in this topic (4) 1d. Re: Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Grant Rainsley" grains@shaw.ca gr1087 Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:17 pm ((PST)) Speaking of which, Geordie=E2=A6.I am heading over to Blood Island firstthing tomorrow morning to see what Winter has left us with. There is always some sort of disaster that needs to be dealt with. I am taking splints and trauma dressings, and have notified the Coast Guard of my intentions, not that they will care, they will be in front of their TV set watching the Olympics, and praying for snow instead of sun. It=E2=99s not going to happen, it is just one of those funny years. And a slight correction=E2=A6=E2=A6it wasn=E2=99t MY wife who put out that classic of a Ramble, which I have also sadly lost but would love to see again=E2=A6..that wasMike Diamanti=E2=99s bride Kellen, =E2=A6=E2=A6Mike was kind enough to lend her to me for a short while, he=E2=99s a GREAT guy, very generous=E2=A6..and Kellen is a very smart lady, she hasn=E2=99t been back to Blood Island, in spite of a standing invitation. (Kellen=E2=A6.pssst=E2=A6.we even have a flush toilet at the cabin now!) And speaking of Mikeeee-Java-Diamondo, I think his M=E2=99s have a legitshot at the pennant=E2=A6.it is just not a given for my Halos this year. The M=E2=99s made some solid From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geordie Calvert Sent: February 19, 2010 8:11 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Brian, see if you can find some of Grant's great Blood Island updates, especially the one his wife wrote - I lost 'em all when I switched computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lindholme" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tipton" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2698 - Release Date: 02/19/10 Messages in this topic (4) 2. Fantasy Baseball league on yahoo Posted by: "Mark Zentkovich" mzentko@earthlink.net mzentko Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:12 am ((PST)) We have a fantasy baseball group set up for us. It is drafting on Sunday night, March 14 at 9pm CST on Yahoo Sports. ID# 153939 PW- OBC Hope you can join us! http://home.earthlink.net/~mzentko/ Messages in this topic (1) 3. The Blood Island Saga.....found it! (Thanks Kellen!) Posted by: "gr1087" grains@shaw.ca gr1087 Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:32 pm ((PST)) Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings isso late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I am Kellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight more hours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and get us to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even beforethe sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing for glory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent found and brought our baggage,and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once theyknew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers drove away. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series of rafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock with the bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed it or not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy. Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny, who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar -- find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and flies way below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy in some serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The west northwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shocking pink streakleft the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain aswe barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite ready for winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Or was it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by the last night, Iwas putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boys with my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherry bloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to go home, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pick us 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossing laundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhere as we lockedthe keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind guy who doesn't break an oath. One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and ready to take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! Messages in this topic (1) 4. Anybody want these books Posted by: "rjsharks" rjsfgmv@aol.com rjsharks Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:19 pm ((PST)) Just ask My last waiver wire type thing - strat-o-matic, I am still working on. It got messy for reasons I won't bore you with. But some of that stuff will go outas still have a list of interested people. I collect books and over the years got tons and duplicates and some I am not interested in. Some are old and goofy but maybe you want some. Here they are. Most in like new condition. Baseball Days,from the sandlot to the show. Sort of coffee table book Behind the Mask, Dave Pallone Marge Schott unleashed Tim McCarver, Oh Baby I love it Your missing a great game, Whitey Herzog On the Run, The never dull and shocking life of maury Wills Darryl, Darryl Strawberry I love this game, Kirby Puckett Balls, Graig Nettles I Ain't an athlete Lady, John Kruk Once a bum always a Dodger, Don Drysdale Nothing but the truth, a baseball life, Don Baylor Joe and Marilyn, A Memory of Love, Roger Kahn. Yikes Built to Win, Inside stories of winning GMs, John Schuerholtz Play Ball, The life and troubled times of MLB, John Feinstein The Diamond Revolution, The prospects for baseball after the collapse of the ruling class Coming apart at the seams, Jack Sands Mile High Madness, A year with the Colorado Rockies The Progress of the Seasons, 40 years of baseball in our town, George Higgins The Heart of the order, Thomas Boswell The Home run Game, Anthology of Baseball's Great Home runs Big League, Big Time, The birth of the Arizona Diamondbacks Crash, The Life and Times of Dick Allen Bill Games Great American Stat Book, 1988 Edition Elias Baseball analyst, 1987, 1989, 1991 Bill James, The Baseball Book 1990 Baseball Lives, Men and Women from the game talk a bout their job Babe, The Legend comes to life, Robert Creamer Over the edge, Jay Johnstone Catfish, My Life in Baseball, Catfish Hunter Where Have you Gone Joe Dimmagio, Maury Allen Joe, You could have made us Proud, Joe Pepitone Messages in this topic (1) OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:18:34 -0500 From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: D'oh! Forgot my link: http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/search/label/1952%20Topps%20Baseball%20High%20Numbers -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 7:57 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 3193 There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1a. Roger Neufeldt From: Larry Tipton 1b. Re: Roger Neufeldt From: Brian Lindholme 1c. Re: Roger Neufeldt From: Geordie Calvert 1d. Re: Roger Neufeldt From: Grant Rainsley 2. Fantasy Baseball league on yahoo From: Mark Zentkovich 3. The Blood Island Saga.....found it! (Thanks Kellen!) From: gr1087 4. Anybody want these books From: rjsharks 1a. Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Larry Tipton" larrytipton@windstream.net tippytoesx4 Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:31 am ((PST)) I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended Messages in this topic (4) 1b. Re: Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Brian Lindholme" familytoad@comcast.net familytoad Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:04 pm ((PST)) Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and I spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I wouldswap big stacks of cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, find lots of hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why he needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended Messages in this topic (4) 1c. Re: Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Geordie Calvert" dodgergeo@comcast.net the_narrow_path Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:10 pm ((PST)) Brian, see if you can find some of Grant's great Blood Island updates, especially the one his wife wrote - I lost 'em all when I switched computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lindholme" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tipton" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended Messages in this topic (4) 1d. Re: Roger Neufeldt Posted by: "Grant Rainsley" grains@shaw.ca gr1087 Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:17 pm ((PST)) Speaking of which, Geordie=E2=A6.I am heading over to Blood Island firstthing tomorrow morning to see what Winter has left us with. There is always some sort of disaster that needs to be dealt with. I am taking splints and trauma dressings, and have notified the Coast Guard of my intentions, not that they will care, they will be in front of their TV set watching the Olympics, and praying for snow instead of sun. It=E2=99s not going to happen, it is just one of those funny years. And a slight correction=E2=A6=E2=A6it wasn=E2=99t MY wife who put out that classic of a Ramble, which I have also sadly lost but would love to see again=E2=A6..that wasMike Diamanti=E2=99s bride Kellen, =E2=A6=E2=A6Mike was kind enough to lend her to me for a short while, he=E2=99s a GREAT guy, very generous=E2=A6..and Kellen is a very smart lady, she hasn=E2=99t been back to Blood Island, in spite of a standing invitation. (Kellen=E2=A6.pssst=E2=A6.we even have a flush toilet at the cabin now!) And speaking of Mikeeee-Java-Diamondo, I think his M=E2=99s have a legitshot at the pennant=E2=A6.it is just not a given for my Halos this year. The M=E2=99s made some solid From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geordie Calvert Sent: February 19, 2010 8:11 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Brian, see if you can find some of Grant's great Blood Island updates, especially the one his wife wrote - I lost 'em all when I switched computers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Lindholme" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Larry Tipton" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:05:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt Great to hear from you...and what a great story! I love the ramblings emails...and to some extent miss the long and nostalgic rambles that some of the old gang used to craft. I suppose times always change and I'm ever so grateful for the 13 years I've been in OBC. Maybe I will try to "dig up" the past with a couple paragraphs this weekend, I really hope that your ramble might inspire others to do the same. Here's to a Ramblin' Weekend!! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tipton To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt I am working at the FAAs Training Academy in Oklahoma City as an ATC instructor. I bought my first computer and joined OBC via Prodigy on-line service. Roger Neufeldts store "Sports Memories" was located close by in Norman Oklahoma, and spent many a Saturday morning purchasing trading material from his nickel and dime bargain boxes. Back in those days Bob Neill and I would swap big stacks cards at one time. I would take Bobs wantlist to Rogers store, and find lots hits in those bargain boxes. Bob would return a big stack of hits from my wantlist from his stash of extras. I remember Bob said his wife wondered why needed all those doubles, now she knew why! I remember having just twenty dollars in my pocket, and having to choose between a needed 1958 or 1959 Mantle card. I choose the 59. Those were the days. I remember Roger telling me when was a kid, his area received the rare 1952 Topps HI numbers, and he put several full sets together. When the 1953s hit the shelves, Roger kept buying the left over packs of those 1952s because they included many Dodger cards he craved. When Roger was a teenager, some big time dealers came through his area knowing that those Hi numbers were around, and Roger sold most of his HI numbered runs. I think the last time I saw Roger was at the last Natl Convention I attended No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2698 - Release Date: 02/19/10 Messages in this topic (4) 2. Fantasy Baseball league on yahoo Posted by: "Mark Zentkovich" mzentko@earthlink.net mzentko Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:12 am ((PST)) We have a fantasy baseball group set up for us. It is drafting on Sunday night, March 14 at 9pm CST on Yahoo Sports. ID# 153939 PW- OBC Hope you can join us! http://home.earthlink.net/~mzentko/ Messages in this topic (1) 3. The Blood Island Saga.....found it! (Thanks Kellen!) Posted by: "gr1087" grains@shaw.ca gr1087 Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:32 pm ((PST)) Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings isso late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I am Kellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight more hours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and get us to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even beforethe sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing for glory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent found and brought our baggage,and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once theyknew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers drove away. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series of rafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock with the bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed it or not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy. Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny, who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar -- find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and flies way below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy in some serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The west northwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shocking pink streakleft the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain aswe barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite ready for winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Or was it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by the last night, Iwas putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boys with my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherry bloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to go home, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pick us 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossing laundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhere as we lockedthe keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind guy who doesn't break an oath. One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and ready to take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! Messages in this topic (1) 4. Anybody want these books Posted by: "rjsharks" rjsfgmv@aol.com rjsharks Date: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:19 pm ((PST)) Just ask My last waiver wire type thing - strat-o-matic, I am still working on. It got messy for reasons I won't bore you with. But some of that stuff will go outas still have a list of interested people. I collect books and over the years got tons and duplicates and some I am not interested in. Some are old and goofy but maybe you want some. Here they are. Most in like new condition. Baseball Days,from the sandlot to the show. Sort of coffee table book Behind the Mask, Dave Pallone Marge Schott unleashed Tim McCarver, Oh Baby I love it Your missing a great game, Whitey Herzog On the Run, The never dull and shocking life of maury Wills Darryl, Darryl Strawberry I love this game, Kirby Puckett Balls, Graig Nettles I Ain't an athlete Lady, John Kruk Once a bum always a Dodger, Don Drysdale Nothing but the truth, a baseball life, Don Baylor Joe and Marilyn, A Memory of Love, Roger Kahn. Yikes Built to Win, Inside stories of winning GMs, John Schuerholtz Play Ball, The life and troubled times of MLB, John Feinstein The Diamond Revolution, The prospects for baseball after the collapse of the ruling class Coming apart at the seams, Jack Sands Mile High Madness, A year with the Colorado Rockies The Progress of the Seasons, 40 years of baseball in our town, George Higgins The Heart of the order, Thomas Boswell The Home run Game, Anthology of Baseball's Great Home runs Big League, Big Time, The birth of the Arizona Diamondbacks Crash, The Life and Times of Dick Allen Bill Games Great American Stat Book, 1988 Edition Elias Baseball analyst, 1987, 1989, 1991 Bill James, The Baseball Book 1990 Baseball Lives, Men and Women from the game talk a bout their job Babe, The Legend comes to life, Robert Creamer Over the edge, Jay Johnstone Catfish, My Life in Baseball, Catfish Hunter Where Have you Gone Joe Dimmagio, Maury Allen Joe, You could have made us Proud, Joe Pepitone Messages in this topic (1) OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:22:34 -0600 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: George Strickland update To the praying members of our fraternity, I'd ask you to say one, two, or more for former MLB shortstop George Strickland. I just left Touro Infirmary in New Orleans to anoint him, and he's not doing really well now. Since he and our fellow member Frank Thomas were teammates on the 1951 Pirates, if someone will let Frank know, I'd appreciate it. I'll keep y'all updated as I hear things. As an aside, to the Red Sox nation, say one or two for Mel Parnell. He's still battling leukemia and cancer, but is a tough old 87-year-old. I haven't seen him lately, but I know he's still hanging in there. Our New Orleans baseball players are getting up there, but they're a distinguished lot. Father Pat Wattigny Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 01:10:11 +0000 (UTC) To: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] George Strickland update Thanks for the update Father P. I will get a letter out to Frank in Monday's mail, as he does not have email. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:22:34 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] George Strickland update To the praying members of our fraternity, I'd ask you to say one, two, or more for former MLB shortstop George Strickland. I just left Touro Infirmary in New Orleans to anoint him, and he's not doing really well now. Since he and our fellow member Frank Thomas were teammates on the 1951 Pirates, if someone will let Frank know, I'd appreciate it. I'll keepy'all updated as I hear things. As an aside, to the Red Sox nation, say one or two for Mel Parnell. He's still battling leukemia and cancer, but is a tough old 87-year-old. I haven't seen him lately, but I know he's still hanging in there. Our New Orleans baseball players are getting up there, but they're a distinguished Father Pat Wattigny Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. Get it now. ================= Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:37:39 -0500 To: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] George Strickland update If you do see Mel Parnell, offer him best wishes from Canton, Ohio, where he played with the Canton Terriers in 1942. ---- "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" wrote: > To the praying members of our fraternity, I'd ask you to say one, two, or more for former MLB shortstop George Strickland. I just left Touro Infirmary in New Orleans to anoint him, and he's not doing really well now. Since he and our fellow member Frank Thomas were teammates on the 1951 Pirates, if someone will let Frank know, I'd appreciate it. I'll keep y'all updated as I hear things. > As an aside, to the Red Sox nation, say one or two for Mel Parnell. He's still battling leukemia and cancer, but is a tough old 87-year-old. I haven't seen him lately, but I know he's still hanging in there. Our New Orleans baseball players are getting up there, but they're a distinguished lot. > Father Pat Wattigny > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ================= To: "obc Ramblings" Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 22:32:51 -0500 From: "Supreme Commander" Subject: super bowl pool count! Check out the up-to-date results so far at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-10.htm and remember to let me know if you send something.. Go OBC! ================= To: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 06:39:15 -0600 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: George Strickland, Requiescat in Pace Good morning, Everyone, I just got the phone call I was hoping not to get, but George went home to the Lord at about 4 a.m. today. Thanks for your prayers. John, his son, asked me to officiate at the funeral, which I will be honored to do later this week. He was a good man, a very good ballplayer, a good husband and father, and a lively sense of humor. I had gotten to know George well inthe last four years, and had many good times with him, both at Mass and atlunches and dinners. He autographed several of my cards of his that I have gotten over the years (some from y'all in OBC!). He will be missed! Father Pat Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:47:45 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Interesting uniform commentary on nice scans of late 1960s Coke Caught this from today's UniWatchBlog. It's a nice Flickr set of Coke poster scans with comments on the uniform design. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41076217@N02/sets/72157623395937638/detail/ ================= To: Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:57:47 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re: Roger Neufeldt (52 highs) As to the question of the availability of 52 highs as a kid, I can confirm that there wasn't any around me - west side of Chicago and suburbs. I remember buying many 1952 Topps in stores including some in cello packs even as late as 1953 and 1954. My collection as a kid included about 2 or 3 high numbers that came from other kids which means that some, but very few, must have been distributed in Chicagoland. They didn't show up much in the rest of the 50s around me either in that I never even saw other 52 highs. I almost got around to buying some in 1959 from Gordon B. Taylor of New York but I entered high school and put the cards away. I thought Roger got his in George Vrechek ================= To: Vrechek , OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 10:33:51 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Roger Neufeldt (52 highs) I passed the question on to Roger himself so we'll see what he has to say. At the 2009 National in Cleveland Roger was telling a story how he had completed not one but two complete sets of 1952 cards. He had an older cousin (or younger, I don't remember) that he didn't really get along with that collected cards as well. Roger's mother said that since he had two sets he should give one set to his cousin. She made him give up his duplicate set which was in much better condition then his main set. Roger said he's neverseen the cards since and doesn't even know if his cousin still has them. You could tell that giving up that duplicate set still bothers him today. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:57:47 -0600 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Roger Neufeldt (52 highs) As to the question of the availability of 52 highs as a kid, I can confirm that there wasn=92t any around me =96 west side of Chicago and suburbs. I remember buying many 1952 Topps in stores including some in cello packs evenas late as 1953 and 1954. My collection as a kid included about 2 or 3 high numbers that came from other kids which means that some, but very few, must have been distributed in Chicagoland. They didn=92t show up much in the rest of the 50s around me either in that I never even saw other 52 highs. Ialmost got around to buying some in 1959 from Gordon B. Taylor of New Yorkbut I entered high school and put the cards away. I thought Roger got his in George Vrechek Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:41:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "John" Subject: Re: Roger Neufeldt (52 highs)--availability I have a question about the availability of the 52 topps hi #'s as a newer collector who has enjoyed the conversations over the past year or so in this group, I have read about the topps 52 set and how the hi #'s are scarceand very hi dollar to get them but am curious as to the availability. I only have a couple of cards from that set and none are hi #'s ...just curiousabout thanks for the read John Dahms --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Reed wrote: > I passed the question on to Roger himself so we'll see what he has to say. > At the 2009 National in Cleveland Roger was telling a story how he had completed not one but two complete sets of 1952 cards. He had an older cousin (or younger, I don't remember) that he didn't really get along with that collected cards as well. Roger's mother said that since he had two sets heshould give one set to his cousin. She made him give up his duplicate setwhich was in much better condition then his main set. Roger said he's never seen the cards since and doesn't even know if his cousin still has them.You could tell that giving up that duplicate set still bothers him today. > -Bob > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > From: vrechek@... > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 08:57:47 -0600 > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Roger Neufeldt (52 highs) > As to the question of the availability of 52 highs as a kid, I can confirm that there wasn't any around me =96 west side of Chicago and suburbs. I remember buying many 1952 Topps in stores including some in cello packs evenas late as 1953 and 1954. My collection as a kid included about 2 or 3 high numbers that came from other kids which means that some, but very few, must have been distributed in Chicagoland. They didn't show up much in the rest of the 50s around me either in that I never even saw other 52 highs. I almost got around to buying some in 1959 from Gordon B. Taylor of New York but I entered high school and put the cards away. I thought Roger got his inOklahoma. > George Vrechek > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 15:12:43 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: An upcoming stadium visit Hey guys, On Thursday, Maureen and I are heading off for a long weekend to a place that I've wanted to go to for a very long time - Berlin, Germany. We're going to spend 5 days seeing the sites, relaxing, and no doubt sampling several superb German beers. As a sports fan however, one of the highlights of our trip for me will be a visit to Berlin's Olympic Stadium, site of Jesse Owens' great victories in the 1936 Olympiad. As it happens, the local soccer team - Hertha Berlin - are at home on Saturday, so we're intending to buy tickets and go along to the game. Maureen's brother has been to a game there, and says that the atmosphere is terrific. Should be a good day. This will be the 3rd Olympic Stadium that I've visited - Barcelona, Spain and London's Wembley Stadium being the others - and as a sports fan they always give me a special thrill. Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= To: Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:06:13 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Kit Young OBC Stuff I haven't bought much from Kit Young due to the prices but noticed an offer similar to Fritsch cards where you can name your price. The link: http://kityoung.com/Sale10_Complete.pdf gets you to 2 pages of OBC grade clearance lots at the bottom of the .pdf that are open to your own offer rather than the (generally reasonable) sales prices. Whether they accept it or not remains to be seen. (I tried making a reasonable offer on Fritsch cards and got nowhere.) Many of us need some more beat up 50s commons like a hole in the head, but sometimes the prices can get irresistible and the stuff needs to be rescued. George Vrechek ================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:04:49 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West Classic (honoring MLK)? Came across some info today on a special 1970 pre-season game, the "East-West Baseball Classic." Walter O'Malley apparently planned and hosted the game in Dodger Stadium. It featured virtual all-star lineups, with HOF coaches Campanella (in Dodger uni) and DiMaggio (in his A's coaching uni). On-field pre-game photo: http://tsutpen.blogspot.com/2009/10/adventures-in-national-pastime-13.html Dugout photo: http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh189/lwiedy/tr0208101-1.jpg Promo poster: http://www.walteromalley.com/images/stad_events/stadium_event_e.jpg Regarding the photo of the major league players =96 On March 28, 1970 major > league =93stars=94 played a benefit game for the Southern Christian Leadership > Conference in Los Angeles. Between the players, coaches and managers, there > was a virtual Who=92s Who of MLB present for this event =96 for example, Roy > Campenella managed the =91West=92 team, while Joe DiMaggio ran the =91East=92 > Proceeds went to build the King Center in Atlanta. Baseball-Reference had this to say. More on the MLK Classic =96 from Baseball Reference.com: In this first [and > last?] Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial All-Star Baseball Classic, =93solo > home runs by Ron Fairly of Montreal and Ron Santo of the Chicago Cubs, plus > a three-run eighth-inning,=94 reports the Associated Press, =93brought the > a 5 =96 1 victory over the West. A crowd of 31,694 watched the charity game > Dodger Stadium. Proceeds go to the late Dr. King=92s Southern Christian > Leadership Conference and a memorial center planned for Atlanta.=94 The game=92s unusual alignment, by region rather than league, creates some > unique player pairings =96 plus the potential for the occasional truly classic > collaboration. In that regard, it is, alas, a tad too late for Mantle and > Mays to become a reality but it is a privilege to see the two vastly > under-appreciated future HOF right-fielders, Al Kaline and Roberto Clemente, > playing side by side. Happily, both Kaline and Clemente do their part, > providing key hits helping to insure victory for this ad hoc aggregation. > Better still, who gets to manage these two under-reported five-tool > flyhawks? =93For this initial charity game,=94 answers the Associated Press, > =93former New York Yankees great Joe DiMaggio managed the East, and ex-Dodger > Roy Campanella, confined to a wheelchair since a 1958 auto accident, > directed the fortunes of the West. Jim =93Mudcat=94 Grant of Oakland sang the National Anthem in the pre-game > program, and then became the victim of a four-hit uprising in the eighth > inning that insured the outcome. Al Kaline of Detroit beat out an infield > hit to open the frame and moved to second as Tom Agee drove Hank Aaron to > the left field wall. Kaline raced home on Lou Brock=92s double to left. Brock > scored on Roberto Clemente=92s double and Clemente came home on Ken McMullen=92s > single.=94 I also found an auctioned plaque given to Bob Gibson in honor of the event: http://www.thewagnercard.com/LotDetail.aspx?lotid98457 More Google results: http://www.google.com/search?hlen&rlz1C1GGLS_enUS311US311&q"East-West+Major+League+Baseball+Classic"&aqf&aqi&oq From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West Classic (honoring MLK)? Nice find, Spike! Can we identify the players in the dugout photo? From L toR: Frank Robinson Unknown (Cleveland Indians?) Tommie Agee Unknown (Phillies) Ron Fairly Tim McCarver Bob Gibson Must have been pretty cool to see Kaline and Clemente playing together! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List From: Matthew Glidden To: obc ramblings Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:49 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West Classic (honoring Came across some info today on a special 1970 pre-season game, the "East-West Baseball Classic." Walter O'Malley apparently planned and hosted the game in Dodger Stadium. It featured virtual all-star lineups, with HOF coachesCampanella (in Dodger uni) and DiMaggio (in his A's coaching uni). On-field pre-game photo:http://tsutpen. blogspot. com/2009/ 10/adventures- in-national- pastime-13. html Dugout photo:http://i256. photobucket. com/albums/ hh189/lwiedy/ tr0208101- Promo poster:http://www.walteromalley.com/images/stad_events/stadium_event_e.jpg Regarding the photo of the major league players =E2=93 On March 28, 1970major league =E2=9Cstars=E2=9D played a benefit game for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Los Angeles. Between the players, coaches and managers, there was a virtual Who=E2=99s Who of MLB present for this event =E2=93 for example, Roy Campenella managed the =E2West=E2=99 team, while Joe DiMaggio ran the =E2East=E2=99 squad. Proceeds went to build the King Center in Atlanta. Baseball-Reference had this to say. More on the MLK Classic =E2=93 from Baseball Reference.com: In this first [and last?] Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial All-Star Baseball Classic, =E2=9Csolo home runs by Ron Fairly of Montreal and Ron Santo of the Chicago Cubs, plus a three-run eighth-inning,=E2=9D reports the AssociatedPress, =E2=9Cbrought the East a 5 =E2=93 1 victory over the West. A crowd of 31,694 watched the charity game in Dodger Stadium. Proceeds go to the late Dr. King=E2=99s Southern Christian Leadership Conference and a memorial center planned for Atlanta.=E2=9D The game=E2=99s unusual alignment, by region rather than league, createssome unique player pairings =E2=93 plus the potential for the occasional truly classic collaboration. In that regard, it is, alas, a tad too late for Mantle and Mays to become a reality but it is a privilege to see the two vastly under-appreciated future HOF right-fielders, Al Kaline and RobertoClemente, playing side by side. Happily, both Kaline and Clemente do theirpart, providing key hits helping to insure victory for this ad hoc aggregation. Better still, who gets to manage these two under-reported five-tool flyhawks? =E2=9CFor this initial charity game,=E2=9D answers the Associated Press, =E2=9Cformer New York Yankees great Joe DiMaggio managed the East, and ex-Dodger Roy Campanella, confined to a wheelchair since a 1958auto accident, directed the fortunes of the West. Jim =E2=9CMudcat=E2=9D Grant of Oakland sang the National Anthem in the pre-game program, and then became the victim of a four-hit uprising in the eighth inning that insured the outcome. Al Kaline of Detroit beat out aninfield hit to open the frame and moved to second as Tom Agee drove Hank Aaron to the left field wall. Kaline raced home on Lou Brock=E2=99s double to left. Brock scored on Roberto Clemente=E2=99s double and Clemente came home on Ken McMullen=E2=99s single.=E2=9D I also found an auctioned plaque given to Bob Gibson in honor of the event:http://www.thewagne rcard.com/ LotDetail. aspx?lotid 98457 More Google results:http://www.google. com/search? hlen&rlz1C1GGLS_ enUS311US311&q"East-West+Major+ League+Baseball+ Classic"&aqf&aqi&oq Did any of the "veteran" OBCers actually see the game broadcast? It looks like a great overlap of baseball eras. ================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:18:46 -0500 To: Glenn Codere , From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West I'm thinking the unknown Cleveland Indian might be Vada Pinson. Bill Malson (at work, and obviously looking for some interesting way to spend my time....) ---- Glenn Codere wrote: > Nice find, Spike! > Can we identify the players in the dugout photo? > From L toR: > Frank Robinson > Unknown (Cleveland Indians?) > Tommie Agee > Unknown (Phillies) > Ron Fairly > Tim McCarver > Bob Gibson > Must have been pretty cool to see Kaline and Clemente playing together! > Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music > Glenn's Sports Collection Want List > ________________________________ > From: Matthew Glidden > To: obc ramblings > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:49 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West Classic(honoring > Came across some info today on a special 1970 pre-season game, the "East-West Baseball Classic." Walter O'Malley apparently planned and hosted the game in Dodger Stadium. It featured virtual all-star lineups, with HOF coaches Campanella (in Dodger uni) and DiMaggio (in his A's coaching uni). > On-field pre-game photo:http://tsutpen. blogspot. com/2009/ 10/adventures- in-national- pastime-13. html > Dugout photo:http://i256. photobucket. com/albums/ hh189/lwiedy/ tr0208101- > Promo poster:http://www.walteromalley.com/images/stad_events/stadium_event_e.jpg > Regarding the photo of the major league players =E2=93 On March 28, 1970 major league =E2=9Cstars=E2=9D played a benefit game for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in Los Angeles. Between the players, coaches and managers, there was a virtual Who=E2=99s Who of MLB present for this event =E2=93 for example, Roy Campenella managed the =E2West=E2=99 team, while Joe DiMaggio ran the =E2East=E2=99 squad. Proceeds went to build the King Center in Atlanta. > Baseball-Reference had this to say. > More on the MLK Classic =E2=93 from Baseball Reference.com: In this first [and last?] Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial All-Star Baseball Classic, =E2=9Csolo home runs by Ron Fairly of Montreal and Ron Santo of the Chicago Cubs, plus a three-run eighth-inning,=E2=9D reports the Associated Press, =E2=9Cbrought the East a 5 =E2=93 1 victory over the West. A crowd of 31,694 watched the charity game in Dodger Stadium. Proceeds go to the late Dr. King=E2=99s Southern Christian Leadership Conference and a memorial center planned for Atlanta.=E2=9D > The game=E2=99s unusual alignment, by region rather than league, creates some unique player pairings =E2=93 plus the potential for the occasional truly classic collaboration. In that regard, it is, alas, a tad too late for Mantle and Mays to become a reality but it is a privilege to see the two vastly under-appreciated future HOF right-fielders, Al Kaline and Roberto Clemente, playing side by side. Happily, both Kaline and Clemente do their part, providing key hits helping to insure victory for this ad hoc aggregation. Better still, who gets to manage these two under-reported five-toolflyhawks? =E2=9CFor this initial charity game,=E2=9D answers the Associated Press, =E2=9Cformer New York Yankees great Joe DiMaggio managed the East, and ex-Dodger Roy Campanella, confined to a wheelchair since a 1958 auto accident, directed the fortunes of the West. > Jim =E2=9CMudcat=E2=9D Grant of Oakland sang the National Anthem inthe pre-game program, and then became the victim of a four-hit uprising inthe eighth inning that insured the outcome. Al Kaline of Detroit beat out an infield hit to open the frame and moved to second as Tom Agee drove HankAaron to the left field wall. Kaline raced home on Lou Brock=E2=99s double to left. Brock scored on Roberto Clemente=E2=99s double and Clementecame home on Ken McMullen=E2=99s single.=E2=9D > I also found an auctioned plaque given to Bob Gibson in honor of the event:http://www.thewagne rcard.com/ LotDetail. aspx?lotid 98457 > More Google results:http://www.google. com/search? hlen&rlz1C1GGLS_ enUS311US311&q"East-West+Major+ League+Baseball+ Classic"&aqf&aqi&oq > Did any of the "veteran" OBCers actually see the game broadcast? It lookslike a great overlap of baseball eras. > Spike ================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:17:02 -0500 To: malsman250@neo.rr.com From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West Classic Agreed that player's probably Vada Pinson (newly signed by CLE) and the unknown Philly's likely Grant Jackson, who won 14 games and threw 4 shut-outs for a team that went 63-99 in 1969. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:18 PM, wrote: > I'm thinking the unknown Cleveland Indian might be Vada Pinson. > Bill Malson (at work, and obviously looking for some interesting way to > spend my time....) > ---- Glenn Codere > wrote: > > Nice find, Spike! > > > > Can we identify the players in the dugout photo? > > > > From L to R: > > Frank Robinson > > Unknown (Cleveland Indians?) > > Tommie Agee > > Unknown (Phillies) > > Ron Fairly > > Tim McCarver > > Bob Gibson > > > > Must have been pretty cool to see Kaline and Clemente playing together! > > > > Glenn's Music Collection at Rate Your Music > > Glenn's Sports Collection Want List > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Matthew Glidden > > > > To: obc ramblings > > > > Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 4:04:49 PM > > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone see the 1970 pre-season East-West Classic > (honoring MLK)? > > > > > > Came across some info today on a special 1970 pre-season game, the > "East-West Baseball Classic." Walter O'Malley apparently planned and hosted > the game in Dodger Stadium. It featured virtual all-star lineups, with HOF > coaches Campanella (in Dodger uni) and DiMaggio (in his A's coaching uni). > > > > On-field pre-game photo: http://tsutpen. blogspot. com/2009/ > 10/adventures- in-national- pastime-13. html > > > > Dugout photo: http://i256. photobucket. com/albums/ hh189/lwiedy/ > tr0208101- 1.jpg > > > > Promo poster: > http://www.walteromalley.com/images/stad_events/stadium_event_e.jpg > > > > Regarding the photo of the major league players =96 On March 28, 1970 major > league =93stars=94 played a benefit game for the Southern Christian Leadership > Conference in Los Angeles. Between the players, coaches and managers, there > was a virtual Who=92s Who of MLB present for this event =96 for example, Roy > Campenella managed the =91West=92 team, while Joe DiMaggio ran the =91East=92 > Proceeds went to build the King Center in Atlanta. > > > > Baseball-Reference had this to say. > > More on the MLK Classic =96 from Baseball Reference.com: In this first [and > last?] Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial All-Star Baseball Classic, =93solo > home runs by Ron Fairly of Montreal and Ron Santo of the Chicago Cubs, plus > a three-run eighth-inning,=94 reports the Associated Press, =93brought the > a 5 =96 1 victory over the West. A crowd of 31,694 watched the charity game > Dodger Stadium. Proceeds go to the late Dr. King=92s Southern Christian > Leadership Conference and a memorial center planned for Atlanta.=94 > > The game=92s unusual alignment, by region rather than league, creates some > unique player pairings =96 plus the potential for the occasional truly classic > collaboration. In that regard, it is, alas, a tad too late for Mantle and > Mays to become a reality but it is a privilege to see the two vastly > under-appreciated future HOF right-fielders, Al Kaline and Roberto Clemente, > playing side by side. Happily, both Kaline and Clemente do their part, > providing key hits helping to insure victory for this ad hoc aggregation. > Better still, who gets to manage these two under-reported five-tool > flyhawks? =93For this initial charity game,=94 answers the Associated Press, > =93former New York Yankees great Joe DiMaggio managed the East, and ex-Dodger > Roy Campanella, confined to a wheelchair since a 1958 auto accident, > directed the fortunes of the West. > > Jim =93Mudcat=94 Grant of Oakland sang the National Anthem in the pre-game > program, and then became the victim of a four-hit uprising in the eighth > inning that insured the outcome. Al Kaline of Detroit beat out an infield > hit to open the frame and moved to second as Tom Agee drove Hank Aaron to > the left field wall. Kaline raced home on Lou Brock=92s double to left. Brock > scored on Roberto Clemente=92s double and Clemente came home on Ken McMullen=92s > single.=94 > > > > I also found an auctioned plaque given to Bob Gibson in honor of the > event: http://www.thewagne rcard.com/ LotDetail. aspx?lotid 98457 > > > > More Google results: http://www.google. com/search? hlen&rlz1C1GGLS_ > enUS311US311&q"East-West+Major+ League+Baseball+ Classic"&aqf&aqi&oq > > > > Did any of the "veteran" OBCers actually see the game broadcast? It looks > like a great overlap of baseball eras. > > > > Spike > > > > > > > > ================= To: , Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:15:35 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] The FamilyToad is the winner Peter made good on his word... My winnings showed up, although Peter couldn't say how he GOT to the mailbox to send them, I assume that he was still shoveling even last week... Having had my share of the white precipatation in years past, I can relate. After plowing, its often worse for your own driveway gets blocked! Anyway on to thanking the hoot owl!! Most of the 1952 Vern Stephens made it out to the west coast. Seems like the upper right corner trailed behind,but Ol'Vern is greatly appreciated here! A 64T Gil Hodges accompanied Vern. How is Gil NOT in the HOF?? There have been some interesting selections/omissions from the HOF roster in the last few years...Gil Hodges not being in the HOF seems like a big miss! Mr Hodges , care of Mr Mead...is in the house! So thanks from the sunny Southwest corner of Washington go out to Snowy Bawlmer OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:21 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] The FamilyToad is the winner Street was plowed at 12:28 today. Brian picked 2:33 PM Monday--off by only two hours five minutes. John Stamper was off by 3 1/2 hours picking 9:00 AM this morning. Only snow/house bound for a little more than two days. I will see what I can find to send west......and thanks for playing. peter mead ================= Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:26:25 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Roger Neufeldt (52 highs) While my "mother made me give them away" story does not involve 52 high numbers, it is still fresh in my mind. When I was a kid, if I was good during the summer (good being defined as no neighbors or sisters complaining to my mother about my behavior that day), after dinner, I would be given a pack of cards. In reality, this bribe served as a tremendous baby sitter. For the equivalent of a nickel a day, I would try and be on my best behavior. The kicker was, at the end of the season, i was only allowed to keep my singles (which of course were creased, drooled upon versions, that were kept under my pillow at nite), whereas my dupes were fairly pristine. So instead of throwing my dupes out, I was "forced" to give them away. My friends would line up, and my best friend got my dupes, 2nd best friend the trips, and so on, until there were no cards left. Made me very popular with my closest friends, and not so popular with my "friends" that were not my "best friends". It did serve to "encourage" guys to be even better friends to me for the following season. I think I gave away a complete or near complete set of 1969s, and the 1970-1973 seasons saw huge starter lots passed around the Mike Rich In a message dated 2/21/10 10:36:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, boreed@hotmail.com writes: > At the 2009 National in Cleveland Roger was telling a story how he had > completed not one but two complete sets of 1952 cards. He had an older > cousin (or younger, I don't remember) that he didn't really get along with that > collected cards as well. Roger's mother said that since he had two sets he > should give one set to his cousin. She made him give up his duplicate set > which was in much better condition then his main set. Roger said he's > never seen the cards since and doesn't even know if his cousin still has them. > You could tell that giving up that duplicate set still bothers him today. ================= Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:15:58 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: MIKE DIAMANTI Subject: New Mariner Uniform Well Gals and Guys: What a great time for sports, aye? USA hockey brought a goal-tending machine to face the Canadian squad on their home ice for a sick crazy victory, and baseball players start showing up for spring training. If you want to see the new "secret" Mariners uniform for this year, click on this link as Ichiro gives us all a preview. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/zoom/html/2011157798.html The new Mariner uniform has style elements from all eras and time travel, and a glimpse into the future of baseball. ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:18:55 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: An unfortunate circumstance Dontcha just hate it when this happens? Ibid on several 1965/66 Topps Hockey cards from a single seller on ebay.The shipping wasa flat rate $3.00, regardless of how many items were won. So far, so good. Unfortunately, I found myself outbid on every card but one, which means that I end up paying over $6for a single common! Rats. You makes yer bids, you takes yer chance! Glenn's MusicCollection at Rate Your Music Glenn's Sports Collection Want List ================= To: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:39:28 -0600 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: An old Bowman lot on Ebay... I have leading bid on this one now, but it's got nine days to go.....take alook at it, and tell me what y'all think. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item130366962817&ssPageNameSTRK:MEBIDX:IT Fr. Pat Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/ ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:03:57 -0500 To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Added link in OBC's Facebook group Hi gents, One of the card blogs I track profiled several dealers from a recent Knoxville show. I linked it from OBC's Facebook group as an experiment--let me know if you want more links shared there. (As opposed to straight email.) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=25876968767&ref=ts ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:13:09 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Bahston cahd shops Hey guys, I know that I just asked this last year, but I can't seem to find the replies in my archive. A work colleague of my wife is going to Boston soon and has agreed to bring me back a box of 2010 heritage if I can lead her directly to a shop that sells them. So once again I call on your knowledge to help me out. Preferably something downtown would be ideal. Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:03:27 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what happened in 1953? Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikely time for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During a visit to my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstore" with the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded to divide, unopened giving me my start. The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. After a day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they look like in 1953?" 2 unlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving with my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were practicing for Sunday's football game). On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business had only vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was a nickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! When the 1st nickel was deposited down into the lower chute fell a package of maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle I soon had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during which many 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming shortprints like Sam Jones and Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407. The big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! Next time if there is interest... Roger Neufeldt ================= To: Brock Hattox , OBC Ramblings Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:52:16 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story Brock and Roger, Great story! I need to know more now! Roger, you mentioned at the last National that your mother made you give your extra set of 52's to your cousin(?). I'd like to know more about that. I could read stories like this all day. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com CC: rjneufeldt@aol.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:03:27 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what happened in 1953? Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikelytime for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During a visitto my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstore" with the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded todivide, unopened giving me my start. The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. Aftera day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda fountain. Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they look like in 1953?" 2 unlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving with my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were practicing for Sunday's football game). On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business hadonly vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was anickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! When the 1st nickel was deposited down into the lower chute fell a package of maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle Isoon had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during whichmany 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming shortprints like Sam Jones and Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407. The big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! Next time if there is interest... Roger Neufeldt Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:03:19 EST To: boreed@hotmail.com, brockhattox@cs.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story Content-Language: en Ditto that Roger, please continue Brock and Roger, Great story! I need to know more now! Roger, you mentioned at the last National that your mother made you give your extra set of 52's to your cousin(?). I'd like to know more about that. I could read stories like this all day. To: OBC-Ramblings@ To: OBC- CC: rjneufeldt@aol.CC: From: brockhattox@From: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:03:27 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what happened in 1953? Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikely time for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During visit to my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstore" with the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded to divide, unopened giving me my start. The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. After a day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they look like in 1953?" 2 u nlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving with my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were practicing for Sunday's football game). On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business had only vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was a nickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! When the 1st nickel was deposited down into t he lower chute fell a package of maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle I soon had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during which many 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming shortpri nts like Sam Jones Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407. The big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! Next time if there is interest... Roger Neufeldt < /FONT> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. _Get it now._ (http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/) ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:03:22 EST To: boreed@hotmail.com, brockhattox@cs.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story Content-Language: en i'd like to know if his cousin is willing to sell! In a message dated 2/24/2010 1:57:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, boreed@hotmail.com writes: Brock and Roger, Great story! I need to know more now! Roger, you mentioned at the last National that your mother made you give your extra set of 52's to your cousin(?). I'd like to know more about that. I could read stories like this all day. To: OBC-Ramblings@ To: OBC- CC: rjneufeldt@aol.CC: From: brockhattox@From: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:03:27 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what happened in 1953? Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikely time for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During visit to my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstore" with the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded to divide, unopened giving me my start. The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. After a day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they look like in 1953?" 2 u nlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving with my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were practicing for Sunday's football game). On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business had only vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was a nickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! When the 1st nickel was deposited down into t he lower chute fell a package of maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle I soon had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during which many 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming shortpri nts like Sam Jones Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407. The big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! Next time if there is interest... Roger Neufeldt < /FONT> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. _Get it now._ (http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/) ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:29:16 +0000 (UTC) To: brockhattox@cs.com From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I love reading the collecting stories.I agree with Bob. I could read stories like this all day! T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: brockhattox@cs.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: rjneufeldt@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:03:27 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what happened in 1953? Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikelytime for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During a visitto my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstore" with the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded todivide, unopened giving me my start. The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. Aftera day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda fountain. Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they look like in 1953?" 2 unlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving with my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were practicing for Sunday's football game). On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business hadonly vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was anickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! When the 1st nickel was deposited down into the lower chute fell a package of maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle Isoon had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during whichmany 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming shortprints like Sam Jones and Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407. The big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! Next time if there is interest... Roger Neufeldt ================= Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:50:41 -0500 (EST) To: tvalacak@comcast.net From: Neal Thomas Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story Great stories, and I am sure they bring back memories for all of us. I remember the 1972 set the best. I think we would all love to read more. ----- Original Message ----- From: tvalacak@comcast.net To: brockhattox@cs.com Cc: rjneufeldt@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 3:29:16 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I love reading the collecting stories. I agree with Bob. I could read stories like this all day! T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: brockhattox@cs.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: rjneufeldt@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:03:27 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what happened in 1953? Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikelytime for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During a visitto my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstor e" with the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded to divide, unopened giving me my start. The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. Aftera day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda fountain. Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they look like in 1953?" 2 unlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving with my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were practicing for Sunday's football game). On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business hadonly vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was anickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! When the 1st nickel was deposited down int o the lower chute fell a package of maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle I soon had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during whichmany 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming short prints like Sam Jones and Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407.The big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! Next time if there is interest... Roger Neufeldt ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:48:45 -0600 From: Steve Rittenberg Subject: Attn Lynn miller Wife and I in Reno. Pls phone this evening. 256 585 4329 Sent from my iPhone ================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 02:19:43 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "jwi62" Subject: Re: Roger Neufeldt's 1952 Topps Story As the late Paul Harvey would say, we need to know "the rest of the story". --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, brockhattox@... wrote: > I asked Roger to email me his 1952 Topps story. Do you want to hear what > happened in 1953? > Brock, > Thanks for putting this on the group server. If it is not that interesting > it will not hurt my feelings for you to bury it. > As a 9 year old farm lad living 8 miles from any town, 1952 was an unlikely > time for me to get serious about collecting baseball cards. During a visit > to my grandfathers in Buhler, Kansas, his neighboring school kids showed me > 1952 Topps 1st series cards. A six block walk to my aunt's "drugstore" with > the gang produced multiple boxes which they just bought and proceeded to > divide, unopened giving me my start. > The rest of the summer was spent earning money to buy more Topps. Mowing > lawns, selling Christmas cards door-to-door and shining grandads shoes. After > a day of selling boxes of Christmas cards, money was set aside for more > inventory. Nirvanna was reached when @ dusk my profits were spent buying packs > of 1952 Topps and opening them while drinking cherry cokes @ the soda > fountain. > Series after series was accumulated with duplicates running as high as 10. > But where were my key Brooklyn Dodgers like Pee Wee Reese, Roy Campanella > and Jackie Robinson? The start of school in the fall moved focus from > collecting. In fact, the main reference to baseball cards was "What will they > like in 1953?" > 2 unlikely happenings connected me with 1952 high #s. In November, my > family travelled in our Ford to Mount Vernon, New York to spend Thanksgiving > my uncle's family. He took us on daily tours including Rockefeller Center, > Times Square, and Yankee Stadium (where the NFL doormat Yankees were > practicing for Sunday's football game). > On our final visiting day I was introduced to an automat. This business had > only vending machines operated with coins-no attendants. On one side was a > nickel machine which dispended cello packs of baseball cards-1952 Topps! > When the 1st nickel was deposited down into the lower chute fell a package > maybe 10 cards. BUT ALL 10 WERE CARDS I HAD NEVER SEEN of my beloved 1952s. > Feverishly, opening packs then depositing money and pulling the handle I soon > had one of every player previously lacking! There were truly more Mantles, > Robinsons and Thompsons then others. Alas, there were the Dodgers that I had > dreamed of during summer including Joe Black and Clem Labine. > Needless to say, packs were gobbled up until all my New York allowance was > gone. Then the trading and bartering back home resumed briefly during which > many 1952 Mantles were traded for seeming shortprints like Sam Jones and > Clem Labine. But no one got enough high #s to have a complete run thru 407. > big haul was yet to come in the summer of 1953! > Next time if there is interest... > Roger Neufeldt ================= Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:11:33 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Subject: Vacation Time Hi! All, Heading to the west coast tomorrow for 10 ten days. Home to Sacramento for a few days and then to Reno for a bowling tournament (USBC) next weekend. Anybody that would like to meet up drop me an email. ================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 02:52:58 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Heading Home OBCers -- Great news for the Wagner clan - I'm heading back to Florida on Wednesday! The kids dropped me off in August on the first day of school and I haven't seen them since (or any child for that matter). As you can imagine, it makes for a long six+ months for the wife - broken heater, cinch bugs inthe yard, traveling to Chicago for Christmas, etc. She has assured me the Honey-Do list is long and distinguished. Hopefully, I find some time in there to get some cards out, but it'll probably not be until mid-March at the earliest. It will be nice to watch the Illini in the NCAAs (I hope) and reaquaint myself with my dupes box to get out some much-needed thank yous! Talk to you soon - from the good ol' US of A! Take Care, ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:05:03 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: 1961 Baseball Stamps Here's an ebay auction that might be of interest to somebody. It's 50 loose Topps stamps from 1961 for $19.99 + $3.00. I don't collect the set so I don't know if <50 cents a stamp is a good buy but I think it is. Good luck. http://cgi.ebay.com/1961-Topps-Baseball-Stamps-Lot-of-50-low-grade-w-Kaline_W0QQitemZ140384680967QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Baseball?hashitem20af943c07 Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ ================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:21:03 EST To: boreed@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Baseball Stamps I bought the Stamps, if anyone wants to share, let me know, Brock H. ================= To: , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:54:16 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) More great reading from Roger...... From: no_replyl@lobbypc.com To: boreed@hotmail.com Subject: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:40:22 -0600 Thanks for the positive response. Here goes the story of the 1952 Topps-part 2. Please put this on the OBC server if you would. Roger With no checklists published we could only surmise that the 1952 Hi #s acquired in New York in November represented all we would ever see. With the beautiful 1953 Bowman color cards already out in spring the collecting club had enormous energy and interest in March, 1953. Then my aunt sat me down inher drugstore in Buhler, Kansas and showed me a letter or note from Earl Brown Wholesale-a candy and tobacco wholesaler in nearby Hutchinson, Kansas.It stated that it could aquire a case of 1952 Topps gum packs-20 boxes, unopened from a wholesaler in St. Louis that had failed to even sell one pack(for unspecified reasons)in late 1952. The case would be available @ 2.5 cents a pack but must be paid for in advance! My aunt gave me the responsibility of questioning my group if they would buy these packs along with the 1953s she had already made available. She hinted that they would be different 1952 Topps from the ones she had for sale the previous summer. The group gave it a hearty thumbs up; she ordered the case and put out the 1952s next to the current offerings. All buyers excitedly began buying and opening these soon piling up great 1952s but extra tripleprints-Mantle etc. With approximately, 3boxes sold they suddenly became almost untouched week after week. "I can not afford both these and the current cards so back to 1953 Bowmans" was the collective opinion. This dear aunt expressed her concern to me and my folks about all her slow inventory which had been purchased upon my recommendation. My parents and her agreed that I would keep buying the 1952 packs until they were all gone!At the end we had 8 complete runs according to spread sheet on Big Chief tablet paper-plus many duplicates! And I lamented that they had more 1953 Bowmans than me-selfish! WHERE DID THEY GO? Where are they now? my younger 1st cousin complained to my mom that I had many duplicate 1952s and he had not been old enough to purchase these\ she suggested that I givehim one of my complete sets. He thanked her and me especially since he gotcards that had not been in my "master carrying around box"(probably near mint although some o/cs.) about 1955 Gordon Taylor, a 1950s card dealer with ads in the Sporting News and Sport magazine offered in 1956 to buy all l952 Topps #s 311-407 for .10 each-but call 1st. Again with many extras which I had purchased 6 for .05 I took thebait. However upon calling first I was told that he would only buy mine ifI sold my entire stock of hi #s. Telling the first lie I could remember uttering I said there were 6 complete runs-total. They were shipped and my first baseball card sale was completed! (Until 2000 I thought that Mr. Taylorhad probably saved them and now was richer. However, he immediately sold them to a teenage dealer named Lou Lipset for 50 cents each!!) In 1969 that same cousin offered me a price on the bulk of my remaining duplicates-all years. I thought long and took his offer. He later opened the 1st baseball card shop in Kansas! My complete set of 1952 Topps has the 1st Mantle I ever touched from the New York cellos-about g-vg 1952 Hi #s were abundant in Canada They also appeared in places like San Francisco, Kansas City and St. Louis Topps coin vendors in 1952 eventually had all series although many did not sell through their late stock of hi#s Thanks for your patience. It has been a great journey for me. Too bad I never grew up........... Roger This E-Mail was sent from a public access iBAHN Internet terminal. Since iBAHN did not create this email they are not responsible for the content of this Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ ================= To: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:00:39 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) Great story! Thanks much! Don't regret not growing up, just look at what the grown-ups have done to the world ... Richard D To: rjneufeldt@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: boreed@hotmail.com Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:54:16 -0500 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) More great reading from Roger...... From: no_replyl@lobbypc.com To: boreed@hotmail.com Subject: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:40:22 -0600 Thanks for the positive response. Here goes the story of the 1952 Topps-part 2. Please put this on the OBC server if you would. Roger With no checklists published we could only surmise that the 1952 Hi #s acquired in New York in November represented all we would ever see. With the beautiful 1953 Bowman color cards already out in spring the collecting club had enormous energy and interest in March, 1953. Then my aunt sat me down inher drugstore in Buhler, Kansas and showed me a letter or note from Earl Brown Wholesale-a candy and tobacco wholesaler in nearby Hutchinson, Kansas.It stated that it could aquire a case of 1952 Topps gum packs-20 boxes, unopened from a wholesaler in St. Louis that had failed to even sell one pack(for unspecified reasons)in late 1952. The case would be available @ 2.5 cents a pack but must be paid for in advance! My aunt gave me the responsibility of questioning my group if they would buy these packs along with the 1953s she had already made available. She hinted that they would be different 1952 Topps from the ones she had for sale the previous summer. The group gave it a hearty thumbs up; she ordered the case and put out the 1952s next to the current offerings. All buyers excitedly began buying and opening these soon piling up great 1952s but extra tripleprints-Mantle etc. With approximately, 3boxes sold they suddenly became almost untouched week after week. "I can not afford both these and the current cards so back to 1953 Bowmans" was the collective opinion. This dear aunt expressed her concern to me and my folks about all her slow inventory which had been purchased upon my recommendation. My parents and her agreed that I would keep buying the 1952 packs until they were all gone!At the end we had 8 complete runs according to spread sheet on Big Chief tablet paper-plus many duplicates! And I lamented that they had more 1953 Bowmans than me-selfish! WHERE DID THEY GO? Where are they now? my younger 1st cousin complained to my mom that I had many duplicate 1952s and he had not been old enough to purchase these\ she suggested that I givehim one of my complete sets. He thanked her and me especially since he gotcards that had not been in my "master carrying around box"(probably near mint although some o/cs.) about 1955 Gordon Taylor, a 1950s card dealer with ads in the Sporting News and Sport magazine offered in 1956 to buy all l952 Topps #s 311-407 for .10 each-but call 1st. Again with many extras which I had purchased 6 for .05 I took thebait. However upon calling first I was told that he would only buy mine ifI sold my entire stock of hi #s. Telling the first lie I could remember uttering I said there were 6 complete runs-total. They were shipped and my first baseball card sale was completed! (Until 2000 I thought that Mr. Taylorhad probably saved them and now was richer. However, he immediately sold them to a teenage dealer named Lou Lipset for 50 cents each!!) In 1969 that same cousin offered me a price on the bulk of my remaining duplicates-all years. I thought long and took his offer. He later opened the 1st baseball card shop in Kansas! My complete set of 1952 Topps has the 1st Mantle I ever touched from the New York cellos-about g-vg 1952 Hi #s were abundant in Canada They also appeared in places like San Francisco, Kansas City and St. Louis Topps coin vendors in 1952 eventually had all series although many did not sell through their late stock of hi#s Thanks for your patience. It has been a great journey for me. Too bad I never grew up........... Roger This E-Mail was sent from a public access iBAHN Internet terminal. Since iBAHN did not create this email they are not responsible for the content of this Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. Sign upnow. ================= Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:23:14 +0000 (UTC) To: Bob Reed From: Geordie Calvert Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) what a fantastic (and somewhat tragic) story! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Reed" To: rjneufeldt@aol.com, "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:54:16 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] RE: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) More great reading from Roger...... From: no_replyl@lobbypc.com To: boreed@hotmail.com Subject: 1952 Topps Hi #s (in 1953) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:40:22 -0600 Thanks for the positive response. Here goes the story of the 1952 Topps-part 2. Please put this on the OBC server if you would. Roger With no checklists published we could only surmise that the 1952 Hi #s acquired in New York in November represented all we would ever see. With the beautiful 1953 Bowman color cards already out in spring the collecting club had enormous energy and interest in March, 1953. Then my aunt sat me down inher drugstore in Buhler, Kansas and showed me a letter or note from Earl Brown Wholesale-a candy and tobacco wholesaler in nearby Hutchinson, Kansas.It stated that it could aquire a case of 1952 Topps gum packs-20 boxes, unopened from a wholesaler in St. Louis that had failed to even sell one pack(for unspecified reasons)in late 1952. The case would be available @ 2.5 cents a pack but must be paid for in advance! My aunt gave me the responsibility of questioning my group if they would buy these packs along with the 1953s she had already made available. She hinted that they would be different 1952 Topps from the ones she had for sale the previous summer. The group gave it a hearty thumbs up; she ordered the case and put out the 1952s next to the current offerings. All buyers excitedly began buying and opening these soon piling up great 1952s but extra tripleprints-Mantle etc. With approximately, 3boxes sold they suddenly became almost untouched week after week. "I can not afford both these and the current cards so back to 1953 Bowmans" was the collective opinion. This dear aunt expressed her concern to me and my folks about all her slow inventory which had been purchased upon my recommendation. My parents and her agreed that I would keep buying the 1952 packs until they were all gone!At the end we had 8 complete runs according to spread sheet on Big Chief tablet paper-plus many duplicates! And I lamented that they had more 1953 Bowmans than me-selfish! WHERE DID THEY GO? Where are they now? my younger 1st cousin complained to my mom that I had many duplicate 1952s and he had not been old enough to purchase these\ she suggested that I givehim one of my complete sets. He thanked her and me especially since he gotcards that had not been in my "master carrying around box"(probably near mint although some o/cs.) about 1955 Gordon Taylor, a 1950s card dealer with ads in the Sporting News and Sport magazine offered in 1956 to buy all l952 Topps #s 311-407 for .10 each-but call 1st. Again with many extras which I had purchased 6 for .05 I took thebait. However upon calling first I was told that he would only buy mine ifI sold my entire stock of hi #s. Telling the first lie I could remember uttering I said there were 6 complete runs-total. They were shipped and my first baseball card sale was completed! (Until 2000 I thought that Mr. Taylorhad probably saved them and now was richer. However, he immediately sold them to a teenage dealer named Lou Lipset for 50 cents each!!) In 1969 that same cousin offered me a price on the bulk of my remaining duplicates-all years. I thought long and took his offer. He later opened the 1st baseball card shop in Kansas! My complete set of 1952 Topps has the 1st Mantle I ever touched from the New York cellos-about g-vg 1952 Hi #s were abundant in Canada They also appeared in places like San Francisco, Kansas City and St. Louis Topps coin vendors in 1952 eventually had all series although many did not sell through their late stock of hi#s Thanks for your patience. It has been a great journey for me. Too bad I never grew up........... Roger This E-Mail was sent from a public access iBAHN Internet terminal. Since iBAHN did not create this email they are not responsible for the content of this Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=E2=99s powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. ================= To: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:36:23 -0500 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Ryan rookie $55 on ebay Ok, not the card it once was...but only $55 on a BIN http://cgi.ebay.com/JERRY-KOOSMAN-NOLAN-RYAN-1968-TOPPS-ROOKIE-177-BEAT_W0QQitemZ310203523217 Good Luck Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ================= To: "'obc ramblings'" Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:17:38 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Opinions on 1939 Playball Ted Williams I just sold a ton of T205s and plan to turn some of those proceedes into a lesser conditioned 39 PB Ted Williams. I'm a little wary of buying ungraded big $$$ cards on ebay, but the following two have caught my eye. Any opinions on either the cards or the sellers would be appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem ================= Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 12:30:50 -0500 To: Bob Donaldson From: Matthew Glidden Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Opinions on 1939 Playball Ted Williams Hi Bob, The first one has a better dealer provenance, certainly, and will deservedly get higher bids. Second listing is more entertaining, but I wouldn't buy it. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Bob Donaldson wrote: > I just sold a ton of T205s and plan to turn some of those proceedes into > a lesser conditioned 39 PB Ted Williams. I=92m a little wary of buying > ungraded big $$$ cards on ebay, but the following two have caught my eye. > Any opinions on either the cards or the sellers would be appreciated. > Thanks > Bob > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item380209771924&ssPageNameSTRK:MEBIDX:IT > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item320493837594&ssPageNameSTRK:MEWAX:IT ================= To: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 16:17:19 -0600 From: "Mark Zentkovich" Subject: need 61-62 football ex need 2.00 to 5.00 worth of ex or better from the below for a trader I owe. have similar baseball to trade.. thanks for any help you can give. 1961 Topps Football: 1 Unitas, 2, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 24, 27, 28, 36, 38, 39 Starr, 40 Hornung, 41 Taylor, 42, 43, 44, 45 Jordan, 47, 48, 49, 51, 57 Colts, 58 Tittle, 59 Brodie, 60, 65, 66, 67Checklist, 70, 72, 73, 77 Brown, 78, 79, 81, 82, 84, 85, 86, 88, 91, 92, 95 Jurgensen, 96, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 104 Layne, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109,110, 112, 113, 124, 133, 134, 136, 137, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145 Blanda, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150Maynard, 151, 155, 160, 162, 166 Kemp, 168, 169, 170, 171, 175, 177, 179, 180, 182 Otto, 183, 186 Flores, 194, 198 Checklist 1962 Topps Football: 1 Unitas, 2, 3, 5 Berry, 7, 8, 9, 11, 14, 17 Ditka, 22, 24, 25, 27, 28 Brown, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36 Davis, 38, 39 Meredith, 40, 41, 43, 45, 46, 49, 52, 60, 63 Starr, 64 Hornung, 65, 66 Taylor, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76 Checklist, 77, 79 SP, 88 Gabriel, 90 Tarkenton, 91, 92SP, 94, 97, 99, 101, 102 Tittle, 110 Huff, 111, 115 Jurgensen, 118, 124, 125, 127 Layne, 129, 130, 131, 133, 134, 136, 137, 138, 141, 142, 148, 150, 151 Kilmer, 154, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 164 Snead, 165, 166, 173, 174, 175, 176 Checklist http://home.earthlink.net/~mzentko/ ================= To: Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:37:32 -0600 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: Met Another Big Leaguer Today! Good evening all! I had the privilege of celebrating the funeral Mass for George Strickland today...it was a joyful funeral, if that doesn't sound too contradictory. George received loving sendoffs from his son, two close friends, and a retired New Orleans baseball writer. I hope my own words did him justice too, but I think they did. Attending the funeral Mass today were Mel Parnell, who is doing "not too bad for an old man", to use his words, and another big leaguer whom I hadnot previously met. FOOT fans, take note. As I went with the family and friends to eat at Carmine's Restaurant after the burial, I heard a crew-cutgentleman tell another old baseball friend of mine, "Hello, I'm Terry Fox." So yes, the former Tiger reliever from the early 60's is alive and well,and living in New Iberia, Louisiana, where he has mastered the fine art of"Boudreaux and Thibodaux" jokes. We had a nice conversation about his arriving in New Iberia in the old Evangeline League in 1954, and how he took the time as an 18 year old to stop in the local Catholic church parish and ask God, "please give me a chance to compete in the big leagues." And despite arm troubles that plagued him throughout his career, Terry Fox ran up some decent numbers as a reliever for Milwaukee and Detroit. He offered to sign a card of mine, and gave me his address for me to send it to him. I will ask him, when I write and send it this week, if he would be open to any members of our group contacting him, if the FOOT fans are so inclined. Will be getting together soon with Mel Parnell and Milton Retif for lunch soon. Meeting the New Orleans baseball old-timers is definitely rekindling my love for the game! Your faithful reporter, Father Pat Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:43:23 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Ron Perry Subject: Terry Fox Fr. Pat, I enjoyed your story about meeting Terry Fox and certainly would appreciate sending Terry a card or two for autographs if he is so inclined. I remember that Terry came to the Tigers in another great 1960 trade. Bill Malson and I previously discussed Norm Cash and Rocky Colavito coming to the Tigers during spring of 1960. Late in the year the Tigers send Frank Bolling to the Braves for Bill Bruton, Dick Brown and Terry Fox. The Braves got pretty good second baseman and the Tigers got their starting center fielder (Bruton), catcher (Brown) and closer (Terry Fox) for the 1961 season. A couple insignificant minor leaguers were also involved. The 1961 Tigers won 101 games and didn't get the the World Series mostly due to a couple guys named Mantle and Maris. Tery was a pretty effective relief pitcher through the mid-60's. ================= To: "'Fr. Patrick Wattigny'" , Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:43:09 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Met Another Big Leaguer Today! Ft Pat, Pass on best wishes to Mel Parnell from his fans up in Boston. My folks met him at a restaurant quite a few years ago and said he was very nice. They had him autograph a coaster for me which I still have in one of my Keep up the good work! From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fr. Patrick Wattigny Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 11:38 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Met Another Big Leaguer Today! Good evening all! I had the privilege of celebrating the funeral Mass for George Strickland today...it was a joyful funeral, if that doesn't sound too contradictory. George received loving sendoffs from his son, two close friends, and a retired New Orleans baseball writer. I hope my own words did him justice too, but I think they did. Attending the funeral Mass today were Mel Parnell, who is doing "not too bad for an old man", to use his words, and another big leaguer whom I had not previously met. FOOT fans, take note. As I went with the family and friends to eat at Carmine's Restaurant after the burial, I heard a crew-cut gentleman tell another old baseball friend of mine, "Hello, I'm Terry Fox." So yes, the former Tiger reliever from the early 60's is alive and well, and living in New Iberia, Louisiana, where he has mastered the fine art of "Boudreaux and Thibodaux" jokes. We had a nice conversation about his arriving in New Iberia in the old Evangeline League in 1954, and how he took the time as an 18 year old to stop in the local Catholic church parish and ask God, "please give me a chance to compete in the big leagues." And despite arm troubles that plagued him throughout his career, Terry Fox ran up some decent numbers as a reliever for Milwaukee and Detroit. He offered to sign a card of mine, and gave me his address for me to send it to him. I will ask him, when I write and send it this week, if he would be open to any members of our group contacting him, if the FOOT fans are so inclined. Will be getting together soon with Mel Parnell and Milton Retif for lunch soon. Meeting the New Orleans baseball old-timers is definitely rekindling my love for the game! Your faithful reporter, Father Pat Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. Sign up now. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:40:59 -0500 From: Bob Reed Subject: 8th Annual OBC NCAA Basketball Tournament It's almost March Madness time so I thought I'd get an early jump on this contest. I've been running a contest for the NCAA basketball tournament for the last7 years. Here are the details: OBC members get assigned teams in the tournament and if your team wins thenyou get cards. Of course if your team loses you send cards. It works best with 16 participants so that where I'll draw the line. Anybody after 16 who wants to get in will get first crack next year. The way it works is you get one team from each of the 4 brackets. One of the 4 teams will be a 1-4 seed, one a 5-8 seed, one a 9-12 seed and one a 13-16 seed. The sum of the four seeds will equal 34. For instance you may get a #2, #7, #10, and #15 while somebody else may get a #1, #8, #9, and #16. Again, if your team wins you get cards from the owner of the other team.The owner of the team that wins gets cards from everybody. Last year's winner was Geno with North Carolina. Any questions let me know. Try to get back to me as soon as you can so I can draw the teams. Remember, space is limited to 16 teams. -Bob R Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469229/direct/01/ ================= To: "'OBC Ramblings'" Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:17:53 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: Ebay Item (Oddballs) This item has OBC written all over it. Here is the number: 170450006928 (1960s-70s Baseball Box Panels Ads w/ Players HOF'ers). And the description: INCLUDES (9) PIECES: 1963 HALL OF FAME BUST BOX WITH PLAYERS ON BACK 1960'S GAME CARD BOX PANEL WITH 12 PLAYERS MAYS AARON, KILLER FRANK ROBINSON BANKS ETC... 1970S MUNSON WIFFLE BALL BOX 1960S BOX WITH COBB AND OTHER ALL TIME GREAT CARDS NATIONAL FOOD STORE PAPER AD WITH MANTLE COKE CEDENO AD CUT BOX (3) SLURPEE PAPER ADS SHOWING DISC-BENCH, HUNTER, HRABOSKY ARE THE 3 ================= Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:13:57 -0800 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mike Rumley-Wells Subject: reports on meeting big leaguers Father Pat, that's just cool! Please always share these experiences. They brighten my day a little, too. Mike R-W ================= To: Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:05:39 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Newport Sports Museum Info? I'm doing yet another story for Sports Collectors Digest that will also make its way to the OBC library page. I visited the Newport Sports Museum in Newport Beach, California, and interviewed the founder - John Hamilton. Has anyone else in our group made a visit or know of the museum or John Hamilton? It is a phenomenal collection, open to the public for free. George Vrechek