================= Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:41:34 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Question re: binders & horizontal cards I know the ultimate answer here is going to be "personal preference", but I'm curious about something. I haven't put my 1960 Topps set in a binder yet but I was wondering how those of you have orient the cards. With the standard vertical cards, it's easy to put them in as: But, do you do it that way with horizontals - and have them all sideways? Or, do you load them as: and then flip the binder 90 degrees to the right (so that the cover is at the top) to view the cards? I'll be interested to read the results. Post them on the Ramblings server so everyone can benefit :-) I know there are endless ways to load the cards: by team, by height, by hat size, or you crazy guys who collect 9 of each card, or any other way you choose. So, for an interesting Sunday topic: how do you load your own cards into 9-pocket pages?? ================= Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:46:23 EST To: DirectorTH@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question re: binders & horizontal cards i put them in numerical order with the horizontal card # on back facing one direction. which if i recall doesn't look right because some of the cards are upside down. but like you say until i see one of you guys with an idea i like better than this that the way they are. In a message dated 3/1/2009 10:42:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, directorth@aol.com writes: I know the ultimate answer here is going to be "personal preference", but I'm curious about something. I haven't put my 1960 Topps set in a binder yet but I was wondering how those of you have orient the cards. With the standard vertical cards, it's easy to put them in as: But, do you do it that way with horizontals - and have them all sideways? Or, do you load them as: and then flip the binder 90 degrees to the right (so that the cover is at the top) to view the cards? I'll be interested to read the results. Post them on the Ramblings server so everyone can benefit :-) I know there are endless ways to load the cards: by team, by height, by hat size, or you crazy guys who collect 9 of each card, or any other way you choose. So, for an interesting Sunday topic: how do you load your own cards into 9-pocket pages?? **************Get a jump start on your taxes. Find a tax professional in your neighborhood today. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=Tax+Return+Preparation+%26+Filing&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000004) ================= Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:41:35 GMT To: directorth@aol.com From: "Bob Saxton" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question re: binders & horizontal cards To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:41:34 -0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question re: binders & horizontal cards I know the ultimate answer here is going to be "personal preference", but I'm curious about something. I haven't put my 1960 Topps set in a binder yet but I was wondering how those of you have orient the cards. With the standard vertical cards, it's easy to put them in as: But, do you do it that way with horizontals - and have them all sideways? Or, do you load them as: and then flip the binder 90 degrees to the right (so that the cover is at the top) to view the cards? I'll be interested to read the results. Post them on the Ramblings server so everyone can benefit :-) I know there are endless ways to load the cards: by team, by height, by hat size, or you crazy guys who collect 9 of each card, or any other way you choose. So, for an interesting Sunday topic: how do you load your own cards into 9-pocket pages?? ================= Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:10:31 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question re: binders & horizontal cards For now my 1960's are in 9 pockets like: I am considering putting them in 8 pockets so they can be viewed without having to turn the binder. I have done this with some of the horizontal only sets and I like the way it looks. The 1943 and 1949 M. P. & Co come to mind. This set being mixed with both horizontal and vertical, I am not sure if I leave it as is with 1-9 or mix 9 pocket and 8 pocket, having to take themout of numerical order. This may be the way I go. Just under half way on this set, I will wait for the set to grow before I decide. John Stamper --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Tom Housley wrote: From: Tom Housley Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question re: binders & horizontal cards To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 8:41 AM I know the ultimate answer here is going to be "personal preference", but I'm curious about something. I haven't put my 1960 Topps set in a binder yet but I was wondering how those of you have orient the cards. With the standard vertical cards, it's easy to put them in as: But, do you do it that way with horizontals - and have them all sideways? Or, do you load them as: and then flip the binder 90 degrees to the right (so that the cover is at the top) to view the cards? I'll be interested to read the results. Post them on the Ramblings server so everyone can benefit :-) I know there are endless ways to load the cards: by team, by height, by hat size, or you crazy guys who collect 9 of each card, or any other way you choose. So, for an interesting Sunday topic: how do you load your own cards into 9-pocket pages?? ================= Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:20:43 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "richard_niessen" Subject: Re: Question re: binders & horizontal cards Wow, cards are printed horizontal on purpose? I always thought these were mis-prints and I threw them away. Oh well, you learn something every day. Rich Niessen --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, John Stamper wrote: > For now my 1960's are in 9 pockets like: > 123 > 456 > 789 > I am considering putting them in 8 pockets so they can be viewed without having to turn the binder. I have done this with some of the horizontal only sets and I like the way it looks. The 1943 and 1949 M. P. & Co come to mind. This set being mixed with both horizontal and vertical, I am not sure if I leave it as is with 1-9 or mix 9 pocket and 8 pocket, having to take them out of numerical order. This may be the way I go. Just under half way on this set, I will wait for the set to grow before I decide. > John Stamper > --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Tom Housley wrote: > From: Tom Housley > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question re: binders & horizontal cards > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 8:41 AM > I know the ultimate answer here is going to be "personal > but I'm curious about something. I haven't put my 1960 Topps set in > binder yet but I was wondering how those of you have orient the > cards. With the standard vertical cards, it's easy to put them in > 123 > 456 > 789 > But, do you do it that way with horizontals - and have them all > sideways? Or, do you load them as: > 369 > 258 > 147 > and then flip the binder 90 degrees to the right (so that the cover > is at the top) to view the cards? > I'll be interested to read the results. Post them on the Ramblings > server so everyone can benefit :-) > I know there are endless ways to load the cards: by team, by > by hat size, or you crazy guys who collect 9 of each card, or any > other way you choose. So, for an interesting Sunday topic: how do > load your own cards into 9-pocket pages?? > Tom ================= Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:32:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Super Bowl Pool '09 Well, I finally got around to trying to hit the winners lists... A couple tough ones there, but I did get a bunch for Jeff, and put him at the top of the all-time list with 346 hits. This passes Mark Talbot's 2001 total of "324+", I guess :) Funny thing, I looked at Jeff's winning square, and guess who had the square right next to him? Yup, Mark Talbot. So, in honor of the lists I couldn't hit, I'm offering up some serious availables... Please let me know if you need.... 1970 topps high numbers 689,704 1951 topps red back Monte Irvin #50 1948 Bowman Barney McCoskey #25 1933 Goudey Walter Stewart #121 If you have any more super bowl hits that you haven't recorded, let me know. If you haven't checked in a while, take a look at the impressive totals at: http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-09.htm Go OBC! ================= Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:39:02 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Redford recap As has been mentioned there was another Redford show yesterday. We are quite lucky to still have card shops and shows in teh Detroit area. The Redford show is only held about every 6 weeks on a Sunday from 9:00 - 2:00. For a short show, in a VFW Hall, there is almost always good stuff for us to get. With only 20 -25 dealers, there are about 15 that sell vintage material. Most sell multiple sports and or oddball memorabilia, such as publications, glasses, pennants, etc. Usually I can pick up a prewar card or 2, but yesterday I struck out on the prewar front, other than the T-218s that Mark Talbot gave me. I had made arrangements to meet someone there, who I have swapped with a few times. I swapped him some 1976s and some Tipton 1954 Bowmans for a Salutation Exhibit. I picked up a few Topps Glossy Hockey cards with the * and ** variations. Among these was the last I needed to complete the master set for 1976-77. Other highlights were a hit to my 1949 Leaf BB, an upgrade to a 1951 Topps Red Back, a 1952 Topps Red Back Kluzewski (the black back was the last card to complete the base low # run), a 52 Wheaties Rizzuto, a dozen 1961 Topps stamp panels, a pair of hits to the 63 Jell-o and about 9 hits to my 1962 Salada BB Coins. That got me to 25 for the base set, although I do have 5 of those in Shirriff. Still need lots of variations. Mark Talbot also got a few dozen of the Salada BB coins from the same dealer. He also had a 1953 Glendale card of Garver. The prices on these have gotten downright ridiculous. He wanted $100. Aside from the usual multiple creases the card had a small tear. I passed. I bought a huge stack (over 200 cards) of 1973 Topps high numbers (no checklists, rookie stars, etc.) I think I ended up buying cards from 7 dealers. This is less than normal for this short show. That should explain why we try to make this show if possible. The next one is on April 5, if ayone wants to join us on the eve of the BB Mike Rich ================= Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:08:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rlabs1" Subject: Help I have trying to email Rob G. and have had no luc. Can anyone help me. Richard Labs ================= Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:25:22 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: FOOT Notes As the FOOT version of Mike & Mike already reported, I was the last to arrive at the Redford Card Show on Sunday. I was technically the last to leave as well and was going for the trifecta in being the last to report, howeverMarkis evidentlydetermined to end the streak.Speaking ofMark, he was the first FOOT I saw when I arrived at the show. After exchanging pleasantries, Markdid his EEEKSkreech as he handed me a trio of Topps for my 58 set (I might do a little ramble on said set later?!.).As is my habit I immediately grabbed a chair atOBC friendly dealer Mike Sandle's (sp?) table and worked my way from the3 dollar down to the5 cent boxes. I pulled a couple of 58's & 72'sI needed, some hitsfor my Hall of Favorites binder & some UV Tigers. Out of nowhere it seems, Mr Oz appears and produces several 78 Burger King Tigers. (I might do a little ramble on said set later?!.) Mike and Ichatted and browsed through card boxes for afew before he vanished again. Eventuallythe King ofthe Oddballs (or is it just King of Oddballs, I get confused)shows up and hands mea trio of 72 hi's. As per usual we hovered around Mike (the dealer's)table untilclosing, at which time Mark expressed regret that hewas unable to joinMike and I at the official post-show watering hole. Once we had Mike thedealer's car loaded, Mike the oddball collectorreminded me of the directions to East Side Mario's and we were off. As usual I missed the place thefirst time around but recovered nicely andgot thereas Mike washeading in the door. I could add for the record that Mike's reminder directions were a bit off, but to what purpose? We filled up on chicken strips, icedtea and lemonade while watching Ripley's Believe it or Not wherein the Pistons beat the Celtics which was Boston's first home loss to a conference opponent all season and extended the Piston's non-losing streak to 2.In between strips and streakswe rummaged through a box of cards Mikethe Dealer gave Mike the Oddball King to distribute to OBCers where I pulled a few moofed 59 AS cards. Alas, the game was over, our plates and glasses were empty,so we settled our tab and departed with promises of a repeatin earlyApril at the next Redford show. "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:01:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard Dingman" Subject: 1952 ebay auction ... Auction # 120383832716, expires in 3 days 2 hours. 170 1952s with dupes, G - VG. Wonder if there is interest in sharing this. I need at least 10 + probably some black backs. I never organized a group buy before, but might consider if not too expensive. Richard D ================= Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:34:23 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Baffling Burger King Cards As I mentioned in my recentFOOT note regarding the Redford card show this past Sunday, the amazing Mr Oz presentedme with 5 Burger King Tigers. These guys are hard to tell from the regular Topps cards except for the minuscule cropping, which requires close scrutiny while comparing them side byside. Now, since I don't know squat about Burger King cards there may be some one out there in OBC land thatknowsa way to distinguish between the two. In the meantime I have explored many options including smellingthem to see if I can pick up ascent of french fries. I thought about tasting them but I try to limit my intake of red meat. However, upon very closeand carefulscrutiny I finally made a discovery!!!! On the back of theregular Topps cards there is a letter followed by an asterisk in front of the little copyright icon and theyear.To illustrate (since I don't have a copyright icon readily available so I will use the at icon instead)C* @1978, Topps Now, this C* thingy is not on the Burger King cards for reasons not yet beknownst to me.BTW, the letters used are A thru F so, now I'm wondering what the letters represent. I thought, ok some kind of code for various printings, but that wastoo mundane andnot real intriguing. Perhaps, thinks I, it isa secret grading system used to rate the players, you know, A thru F! Following this lead, Iperused the back of the 78Topps non-Burger King cards to see what letters were on who's cards, are ya still with me? A quick sampling put a dent in my theory when I noted that Milt May was given an A and Mickey Stanley a D. Knowing that Mr Oz would nevercondone a grade of D for his HOM guy, I wasrather dubious but decided to check a few more. Ah,this is more like it says I, Ralph Houk got an E, I'm down with that, but no, Rookies Trammell and Whitaker both got Fs? Well, c'est la vie, I'll just wait for a response from a food issue expert! MentioningHOM guys, I hate to nag but a couple of FOOT members have yet to provide a narrative explaining why they nominated their respective HOMers! Have a good evening OBC!"we keep what we give away!" ================= To: "OBCRamblings" , Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:56:21 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baffling Burger King Cards Mr Eek, I've always contended that the letters corresponded to the uncut sheet thatproduced the cards...132 cards per sheet (12 x11) is common. Sheet A held 1-132, Sheet B held 133-264 etc. Notice how some years have 660 cards? There is a method to that madness...and 792 makes sense too. Cards with odd amounts produce double prints, short-prints and such when the player appears more or less often on the big sheet. As for Burger Kings, I wouldn't be able to tell a Topps from a BK even if one had ketchup all over it...but I think the theory above holds true for the letters you see. OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: OBCRamblings Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Baffling Burger King Cards As I mentioned in my recent FOOT note regarding the Redford card show this past Sunday, the amazing Mr Oz presented me with 5 Burger King Tigers. These guys are hard to tell from the regular Topps cards except for the minuscule cropping, which requires close scrutiny while comparing them side by side. Now, since I don't know squat about Burger King cards there may be some one out there in OBC land that knows a way to distinguish between the two. In the meantime I have explored many options including smelling them to see if I can pick up a scent of french fries. I thought about tasting them but I try to limit my intake of red meat. However, upon very close and careful scrutiny I finally made a discovery!!!! On the back of the regular Toppscards there is a letter followed by an asterisk in front of the little copyright icon and the year. To illustrate (since I don't have a copyright icon readily available so I will use the at icon instead) C* @1978, Topps Now, this C* thingy is not on the Burger King cards for reasons not yet beknownst to me. BTW, the letters used are A thru F so, now I'm wondering what the letters represent. I thought, ok some kind of code for various printings, but that was too mundane and not real intriguing. Perhaps, thinks I, it is a secret grading system used to rate the players, you know, A thru F! Following this lead, I perused the back of the 78 Topps non-Burger King cards to see what letters were on who's cards, are ya still with me? A quick sampling put a dent in my theory when I noted that Milt May was given an A and Mickey Stanley a D. Knowing that Mr Oz would never condone a gradeof D for his HOM guy, I was rather dubious but decided to check a few more. Ah, this is more like it says I, Ralph Houk got an E, I'm down with that,but no, Rookies Trammell and Whitaker both got Fs? Well, c'est la vie, I'll just wait for a response from a food issue expert! Mentioning HOM guys, I hate to nag but a couple of FOOT members have yet to provide a narrative explaining why they nominated their respective HOMers! Have a good evening OBC! "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:52:08 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Mike Mroz" Subject: Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I don't mean to point out the obvious, but other than any photographic changes, the number on the back of the card is the main difference between the regular Topps issue and the Burger King cards - e.g. Dave Rozema is #124 in the Tops issue, but #5 in the BK issue. I may be wrong, but I don't believe that any BK issue has the same card number as the Topps. Mr. Oz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, EEK wrote: > As I mentioned in my recentFOOT note regarding the Redford card show this past Sunday, the amazing Mr Oz presentedme with 5 Burger King Tigers. These guys are hard to tell from the regular Topps cards except for the minuscule cropping, which requires close scrutiny while comparing them side by side. Now, since I don't know squat about Burger King cards there may besome one out there in OBC land thatknowsa way to distinguish betweenthe two. In the meantime I have explored many options including smellingthem to see if I can pick up ascent of french fries. I thought about tasting them but I try to limit my intake of red meat. However, upon very close and carefulscrutiny I finally made a discovery!!!! On the back of theregular Topps cards there is a letter followed by an asterisk in frontof the little copyright icon and theyear.To illustrate (since I don't have a copyright icon readily available so I will use the at icon > instead)C* @1978, Topps Now, this C* thingy is not on theBurger King cards for reasons not yet beknownst to me.BTW, the letters used are A thru F so, now I'm wondering what the letters represent. I thought, ok some kind of code for various printings, but that wastoo mundane andnot real intriguing. Perhaps, thinks I, it isa secret grading system used to rate the players, you know, A thru F! Following thislead, Iperused the back of the 78Topps non-Burger King cards to see what letters were on who's cards, are ya still with me? A quick sampling put a dent in my theory when I noted that Milt May was given an A and Mickey Stanley a D. Knowing that Mr Oz would nevercondone a grade of Dfor his HOM guy, I wasrather dubious but decided to check a few more. Ah, this is more like it says I, Ralph Houk got an E, I'm down with that, but no, Rookies Trammell and Whitaker both got Fs? Well, c'est la vie, I'll just wait for a > response from a food issue expert! > MentioningHOM guys, I hate to nag but a couple of FOOT members have yet to provide a narrative explaining why they nominated their respective HOMers! > Have a good evening OBC!"we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:32:43 EST To: OBCYearProject@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Subject: The Postman Cometh Hope everyone on this list below is part of this project (OBCYearProject) but just in case I'm sending this to the Ramblings server. Anyway get those sunglasses out as some will be blinded by the light. **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) ================= Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:57:15 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Mroz , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards Well, there you go! "we keep what we give away!" From: Mike Mroz To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 3:52:08 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I don't mean to point out the obvious, but other than any photographic changes, the number on the back of the card is the main difference between the regular Topps issue and the Burger King cards - e.g. Dave Rozema is #124 inthe Tops issue, but #5 in the BK issue. I may be wrong, but I don't believe that any BK issue has the same card number as the Topps. Mr. Oz --- In OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com, EEK wrote: > As I mentioned in my recentFOOT note regarding the Redford card show this past Sunday, the amazing Mr Oz presentedme with 5 Burger King Tigers. These guys are hard to tell from the regular Topps cards except for the minuscule cropping, which requires close scrutiny while comparing them side by side. Now, since I don't know squat about Burger King cards there may besome one out there in OBC land thatknowsa way to distinguish betweenthe two. In the meantime I have explored many options including smellingthem to see if I can pick up ascent of french fries. I thought about tasting them but I try to limit my intake of red meat. However, upon very close and carefulscrutiny I finally made a discovery!!! ! On the back of theregular Topps cards there is a letter followed by an asterisk in front of the little copyright icon and theyear.To illustrate (since I don't have a copyright icon readily available so I will use the at icon > instead)C* @1978, Topps Now, this C* thingy is not on the Burger King cards for reasons not yet beknownst to me.BTW, the letters used are A thru F so, now I'm wondering what the letters represent.I thought, ok some kind of code for various printings, but that wastoo mundane andnot real intriguing. Perhaps, thinks I, it isa secret grading system used to rate the players, you know, A thru F! Following this lead, Iperused the back of the 78Topps non-Burger King cards to see what letters were on who's cards, are ya still with me? A quick sampling puta dent in my theory when I noted that Milt May was given an A and Mickey Stanley a D. Knowing that Mr Oz would nevercondone a grade of D for his HOM guy, I wasrather dubious but decided to check a few more. Ah, this is more like it says I, Ralph Houk got an E, I'm down with that, butno, Rookies Trammell and Whitaker both got Fs? Well, c'est la vie, I'll just wait for a > response from a food issue expert! > MentioningHOM guys, I hate to nag but a couple of FOOT members have yet to provide a narrative explaining why they nominated their respective HOMers! > Have a good evening OBC!"we keep what we give away!" ================= To: "Mike Mroz" , Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:53:27 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I don't mean to point out the obvious, ... ... " Classic. ... more priceless than a MasterCard commercial. Thanks Mike, I might hang on to this one for a few more daze of chuckles. ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: Mike Mroz ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards Well, there you go! "we keep what we give away!" From: Mike Mroz To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 3:52:08 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I don't mean to point out the obvious, but other than any photographic changes, the number on the back of the card is the main difference between the regular Topps issue and the Burger King cards - e.g. Dave Rozema is #124 inthe Tops issue, but #5 in the BK issue. I may be wrong, but I don't believe that any BK issue has the same card number as the Topps. Mr. Oz --- In OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com, EEK wrote: > As I mentioned in my recent FOOT note regarding the Redford card show this past Sunday, the amazing Mr Oz presented me with 5 Burger King Tigers. These guys are hard to tell from the regular Topps cards except for the minuscule cropping, which requires close scrutiny while comparing them side by side. Now, since I don't know squat about Burger King cards there may be some one out there in OBC land that knows a way to distinguish between the two. In the meantime I have explored many options including smelling them to see if I can pick up a scent of french fries. I thought about tasting them but I try to limit my intake of red meat. However, upon very close and careful scrutiny I finally made a discovery!!! ! On the back of the regular Topps cards there is a letter followed by an asterisk in front of the little copyright icon and the year. To illustrate (since I don't have a copyright icon readily available so I will use the at icon > instead) C* @1978, Topps Now, this C* thingy is not on the Burger King cards for reasons not yet beknownst to me. BTW, the letters used are A thru F so, now I'm wondering what the letters represent. I thought, ok some kind of code for various printings, but that was too mundane and not real intriguing. Perhaps, thinks I, it is a secret grading system used to ratethe players, you know, A thru F! Following this lead, I perused the back of the 78 Topps non-Burger King cards to see what letters were on who's cards, are ya still with me? A quick sampling put a dent in my theory when I noted that Milt May was given an A and Mickey Stanley a D. Knowing that MrOz would never condone a grade of D for his HOM guy, I was rather dubious but decided to check a few more. Ah, this is more like it says I, Ralph Houk got an E, I'm down with that, but no, Rookies Trammell and Whitaker both got Fs? Well, c'est la vie, I'll just wait for a > response from a food issue expert! > Mentioning HOM guys, I hate to nag but a couple of FOOT members have yet to provide a narrative explaining why they nominated their respective HOMers! > Have a good evening OBC! "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:21:20 -0800 (PST) To: Walker , Mike Mroz , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards What is obvious is that I'm an idiot, thanks for trying to cushion the blowMike. "we keep what we give away!" From: Walker To: Mike Mroz ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; EEK Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 3:53:27 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I don't mean to point out the obvious, ... ... " Classic. ...more priceless than a MasterCard commercial. Thanks Mike, I might hang on to this one for a few more daze of chuckles. ----- Original Message ----- From: EEK To: Mike Mroz ; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards Well, there you go! "we keep what we give away!" From: Mike Mroz To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 3:52:08 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I don't mean to point out the obvious, but other than any photographic changes, the number on the back of the card is the main difference between the regular Topps issue and the Burger King cards - e.g. Dave Rozema is #124 inthe Tops issue, but #5 in the BK issue. I may be wrong, but I don't believe that any BK issue has the same card number as the Topps. Mr. Oz --- In OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com, EEK wrote: > As I mentioned in my recentFOOT note regarding the Redford card show this past Sunday, the amazing Mr Oz presentedme with 5 Burger King Tigers. These guys are hard to tell from the regular Topps cards except for the minuscule cropping, which requires close scrutiny while comparing them side by side. Now, since I don't know squat about Burger King cards there may besome one out there in OBC land thatknowsa way to distinguish betweenthe two. In the meantime I have explored many options including smellingthem to see if I can pick up ascent of french fries. I thought about tasting them but I try to limit my intake of red meat. However, upon very close and carefulscrutiny I finally made a discovery!!! ! On the back of theregular Topps cards there is a letter followed by an asterisk in front of the little copyright icon and theyear.To illustrate (since I don't have a copyright icon readily available so I will use the at icon > instead)C* @1978, Topps Now, this C* thingy is not on the Burger King cards for reasons not yet beknownst to me.BTW, the letters used are A thru F so, now I'm wondering what the letters represent.I thought, ok some kind of code for various printings, but that wastoo mundane andnot real intriguing. Perhaps, thinks I, it isa secret grading system used to rate the players, you know, A thru F! Following this lead, Iperused the back of the 78Topps non-Burger King cards to see what letters were on who's cards, are ya still with me? A quick sampling puta dent in my theory when I noted that Milt May was given an A and Mickey Stanley a D. Knowing that Mr Oz would nevercondone a grade of D for his HOM guy, I wasrather dubious but decided to check a few more. Ah, this is more like it says I, Ralph Houk got an E, I'm down with that, butno, Rookies Trammell and Whitaker both got Fs? Well, c'est la vie, I'll just wait for a > response from a food issue expert! > MentioningHOM guys, I hate to nag but a couple of FOOT members have yet to provide a narrative explaining why they nominated their respective HOMers! > Have a good evening OBC!"we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 06:32:28 -0800 (PST) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: 8 card sheets I'm having trouble finding 8 card pagesfor my binders. My local card shops don't have any on hand but they would be happy to "special order" a box for me, I didn'teven ask the price. I checked at the recent Redford cardshow, but no luck.A few online places I checked out wanted $19.95 plus $7 to $10 shipping for a 100count box. Any suggestions? "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:52:56 -0800 (PST) To: EEK From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 8 card sheets EEK and OBC, I can get 8pocket pages for $13 each. Shipping is cheapest with 2 boxes.It runs $9.85 for Standard Flat Rate. I have 9 pocket pages also for $11 so you could get one of each. Shipping for one box of 8 or 9 pockets runs around $7 or so. I could also do any other pocket # for the same. I suppose I could mix and match if someone wanted 25 4 pockets, 25 8 pockets, 25 6 pockets...etc. As long as it added up to 100. I get the Pocket Pages frommy local card store. I have been going there for close to 20 years and they give mea price break on supplies. John Stamper --- On Sat, 3/7/09, EEK wrote: From: EEK Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 8 card sheets To: "OBCRamblings" Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 6:32 AM I'm having trouble finding 8 card pagesfor my binders. My local card shops don't have any on hand but they would be happy to "special order" a box for me, I didn'teven ask the price. I checked at the recent Redford cardshow, but no luck.A few online places I checked out wanted $19.95 plus $7 to $10 shipping for a 100count box. Any suggestions? "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:08:29 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I did some "research" a while back on Burger King cards. Partly because I got some 78 BK Tigers and they were very different from the Topps versions - good examples being the 78 Topps Jack Morris which was a 4-person card, and the 78 BK version being just Jack Morris. Same with Trammell AND Whitaker! Three pretty important Tiger rookies in one year! Of all the 1977-80 Burger King cards which actually mimic the designs of the Topps cards, there are 177 cards plus 8 checklist cards. Of those 177 cards, 44 have different poses. Some may be as slight as cropping differences. But others are pretty significant. And then of course there's the numbering. ================= Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:38:06 -0800 (PST) To: uthminsta1 , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards Oh Yes, there is the numbering, of course! "we keep what we give away!" From: uthminsta1 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 12:08:29 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I did some "research" a while back on Burger King cards. Partly because I got some 78 BK Tigers and they were very different from the Topps versions -good examples being the 78 Topps Jack Morris which was a 4-person card, and the 78 BK version being just Jack Morris. Same with Trammell AND Whitaker! Three pretty important Tiger rookies in one year! Of all the 1977-80 Burger King cards which actually mimic the designs of the Topps cards, there are 177 cards plus 8 checklist cards. Of those 177 cards, 44 have different poses. Some may be as slight as cropping differences.But others are pretty significant. And then of course there's the numbering. ================= Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:32:09 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show The Chicago Sun-Times show is scheduled for March 20-22. This is usually agood show and good time to get together and hunt for cardboard with fellowOBC members. Kurt Turdout has emailed and asked me to pass along to the OBC community that he will be at the show. As far as BC members go, I believe that Gary Mandell plans on being there all day Saturday. I will be there Saturday as well. Can anyone else make it? George? How about the FOOTcontingency? Any plans to carpool over for the show? Let me know and we can plan on getting together. ================= Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 04:43:35 +0000 (UTC) To: EEK From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 8 card sheets Hey EEK, There is a dealer of supplies that sets up at the Wednesday show and the Gibraltar show and has those pages all the time. Say the word and I will pick some up and the next time we see each other you can get them from me. LMK - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "EEK" To: "OBCRamblings" Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 9:32:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 8 card sheets I'm having trouble finding 8 card pagesfor my binders. My local card shops don't have any on hand but they would be happy to "special order" a box for me, I didn'teven ask the price. I checked at the recent Redford card show, but no luck.A few online places I checked out wanted $19.95 plus $7 to $10 shipping for a 100count box. Any suggestions? "we keep what we give away!" ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:56:44 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: creating an OBC online want list I should know this "stuff".but I don't......I was tooling around this morning on the OBC web site....... I find this....create an online wants list............Could somebody tell me the wherto's, and therfor's.........about this. Looks pretty cool................. Thanks in advance for any response. Ken Goetsch ================= Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:58:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Death announcement I am very happy to announce that a vintage wantlist has died. With the arrival of the last card from eBay, my 1967 Topps football wantlist is dead. Ohsure, ther are a few I wouldn't mind upgrading, but it feels good to crossoff that last card. Thanks to traders Heilenman, Rhoades, Rice & Timmins for their contributions! We now resume our regularly scheduled programming. ================= Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:46:26 -0700 (PDT) To: tvalacak@comcast.net From: George Vrechek Subject: Re:Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show At the moment I plan to be there Friday night and Saturday. We usually find other OBCers at the closest bargain bins but someone pick a time and place to meet just in case. Geirge Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:17:47 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Chicago Sun Times Mar 20 -22 I doubt I can make it, and if I can, I most likely would not know until around the first part of that week. If any other FOOT members are thinking ofgoing for Saturday, LMK. If I recall, last Chicago show, Ron Perry and I drove up on Friday nite, after work, and went to the show on Saturday and then headed back. Worked pretty well, until we were hit by a van with a trailer. Mike Rich ================= Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:08:59 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikerw7" Subject: 1916 M101-5 Luther Cook Hi, Fellas & Linda. Up with a sinus headache, which isn't that fun, but decided to crack open my "new" SCD. I've got a card I'd never been able to identify but that I'vealways assumed is a reprint. I just tracked it down as a 1916 M101-5 Luther Cook. It has no #, though he is listed as #37. This one is cut such that if it had a #, it was cut off. Did Luther's card have a # (1 website suggested I've assumed it's a reprint because it's in too nice condition--sharp corners, white, all that stuff. But how would I know for certain? The back is blank (of course) and the front is "Luther Cook R.F.--New York Am'icns" Any input or thoughts? I appreciate any help or insight any of you might have. Mike Rumley-Wells PS Loving this book! :-) ================= Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:54:07 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glk@aol.com Subject: cool stuff from Topps _http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/09/topps-launches-3d-live-baseball-cards-vide (http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/09/topps-launches-3d-live-baseball-cards-video-cards-on-deck/) cool from Topps In a message dated 3/8/2009 10:36:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: _OBC (Ramblings) _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC Messages In This Digest (8 Messages) _8 card sheets_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#1a) From: EEK _Re: 8 card sheets_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#1b) From: John Stamper _Re: 8 card sheets_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#1c) From: _Re: Baffling Burger King Cards_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#2a) From: _Re: Baffling Burger King Cards_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#2b) From: EEK _Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#3) From: T.J. Valacak _creating an OBC online want list_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#4) From: ken goetsch _Death announcement_ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#5) From: Tom Housley _View All Topics_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbjFsdjRpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTIzOTIwBH NlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNhdHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMzY1MjY1NjI-?xm=1&m=p&tidx=1) | _Create New Topic_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOHRnZXM1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTIzOTIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNs _8 card sheets _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18967;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYm9qa2YyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTIzOTI Posted by: "EEK" _originaleek1@att.net _ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net?Subject= Re:8%20card%20sheets) Sat Mar 7, 2009 6:32 am (PST) I'm having trouble finding 8 card pages for my binders. My local card shops don't have any on hand but they would be happy to "special order" a box for me, I didn't even ask the price. I checked at the recent Redford card show, but no luck. A few online places I checked out wanted $19.95 plus $7 to $10 shipping for a 100 count box. Any suggestions? "we keep what we give away!" _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net?Subject=Re:8%20card%20sheets) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?SubjectRe:8%20card%20sheets) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYXRhc2JtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAM _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18967;_ylc=X3oDMTM3Z3ZhZmk0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5Njc-) (3) _Re: 8 card sheets _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18968;_ylc=X3oDMTJyYjVvaDQyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI Posted by: "John Stamper" _john@holidayandhobbies.com _ (mailto:john@holidayandhobbies.com?Subject= Re:%208%20card%20sheets) _holidayandhobbies _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/holidayandhobbies) Sat Mar 7, 2009 7:53 am (PST) EEK and OBC, I can get 8 pocket pages for $13 each. Shipping is cheapest with 2 boxes. It runs $9.85 for Standard Flat Rate. I have 9 pocket pages also for $11 so you could get one of each. Shipping for one box of 8 or 9 pockets runs around $7 or so. I could also do any other pocket # for the same. I suppose I could mix and match if someone wanted 25 4 pockets, 25 8 pockets, 25 6 pockets...etc. As long as it added up to 100. I get the Pocket Pages from my local card store. I have been going there for close to 20 years and they give me a price break on supplies. John Stamper --- On Sat, 3/7/09, EEK <_originaleek1@origina_ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net) > wrote: From: EEK <_originaleek1@origina_ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net) > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 8 card sheets To: "OBCRamblings" <_OBC-Ramblings@OBC-RamblingOBC_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 6:32 AM I'm having trouble finding 8 card pages for my binders. My local card shops don't have any on hand but they would be happy to "special order" a box for me, I didn't even ask the price. I checked at the recent Redford card show, but no luck. A few online places I checked out wanted $19.95 plus $7 to $10 shipping for a 100 count box. Any suggestions? "we keep what we give away!" _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:john@holidayandhobbies.com?Subject=Re:%208%20card%20sheets) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?SubjectRe:%208%20card%20sheets) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyN29tYnM5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTI _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18967;_ylc=X3oDMTM3YTZlMm9tBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5Njc-) (3) _Re: 8 card sheets _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18972;_ylc=X3oDMTJyNTFxNm4yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTI Posted by: "talbot1@comcast.net" _talbot1@comcast.net _ (mailto:talbot1@comcast.net?Subject= Re:%208%20card%20sheets) _markstalbot _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/markstalbot) Sat Mar 7, 2009 8:43 pm (PST) Hey EEK, There is a dealer of supplies that sets up at the Wednesday show and the Gibraltar show and has those pages all the time. Say the word and I will pick some up and the next time we see each other you can get them from me. LMK - BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------REGARDS -REGARDS -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "EEK" <_originaleek1@origina_ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net) > To: "OBCRamblings" <_OBC-Ramblings@OBC-RamblingOBC_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 9:32:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 8 card sheets I'm having trouble finding 8 card pages for my binders. My local card shops don't have any on hand but they would be happy to "special order" a box for me, I didn't even ask the price. I checked at the recent Redford card show, but no luck. A few online places I checked out wanted $19.95 plus $7 to $10 shipping for a 100 count box. Any suggestions? "we keep what we give away!" _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:talbot1@comcast.net?Subject=Re:%208%20card%20sheets) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?SubjectRe:%208%20card%20sheets) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZWhpajlmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3 _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18967;_ylc=X3oDMTM3cnBmdGFmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5Njc-) (3) _Re: Baffling Burger King Cards _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18969;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZTU0OGxuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3 Posted by: "uthminsta1" _uthminsta@hotmail.com _ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com?Subject= Re:%20Baffling%20Burger%20King%20Cards) _uthminsta1 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/uthminsta1) Sat Mar 7, 2009 9:08 am (PST) I did some "research" a while back on Burger King cards. Partly because I got some 78 BK Tigers and they were very different from the Topps versions - good examples being the 78 Topps Jack Morris which was a 4-person card, and the 78 BK version being just Jack Morris. Same with Trammell AND Whitaker! Three pretty important Tiger rookies in one year! Of all the 1977-80 Burger King cards which actually mimic the designs of the Topps cards, there are 177 cards plus 8 checklist cards. Of those 177 cards, 44 have different poses. Some may be as slight as cropping differences. But others are pretty significant. And then of course there's the numbering. _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com?Subject=Re:%20Baffling%20Burger%20King%20Cards) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?Subject= Re:%20Baffling%20Burger%20King%20Cards) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZXV0b2VmBF9TAzk3Mz _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18960;_ylc=X3oDMTM3amF1Mm82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5NjA-) (8) _Re: Baffling Burger King Cards _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18970;_ylc=X3oDMTJybDNlbW5pBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3 Posted by: "EEK" _originaleek1@att.net _ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net?Subject= Re:%20Baffling%20Burger%20King%20Cards) Sat Mar 7, 2009 9:38 am (PST) Oh Yes, there is the numbering, of course! "we keep what we give away!" From: uthminsta1 <_uthminsta@hotmail.uth_ (mailto:uthminsta@hotmail.com) > To: _OBC-Ramblings@OBC-RamblingOBC_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 12:08:29 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Baffling Burger King Cards I did some "research" a while back on Burger King cards. Partly because I got some 78 BK Tigers and they were very different from the Topps versions - good examples being the 78 Topps Jack Morris which was a 4-person card, and the 78 BK version being just Jack Morris. Same with Trammell AND Whitaker! Three pretty important Tiger rookies in one year! Of all the 1977-80 Burger King cards which actually mimic the designs of the Topps cards, there are 177 cards plus 8 checklist cards. Of those 177 cards, 44 have different poses. Some may be as slight as cropping differences. But others are pretty significant. And then of course there's the numbering. _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:originaleek1@att.net?Subject=Re:%20Baffling%20Burger%20King%20Cards) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?Subject= Re:%20Baffling%20Burger%20King%20Cards) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJycDNwNmE2BF9TAzk3MzU _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18960;_ylc=X3oDMTM3c2FiMmMzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5NjA-) (8) _Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18971;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY2N2OTZrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc Posted by: "T.J. Valacak" _tvalacak@comcast.net _ (mailto:tvalacak@comcast.net?Subject= Re:Upcoming%20Chicago%20Sun-Times%20show) _tjv815 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/tjv815) Sat Mar 7, 2009 3:32 pm (PST) The Chicago Sun-Times show is scheduled for March 20-22. This is usually a good show and good time to get together and hunt for cardboard with fellow OBC members. Kurt Turdout has emailed and asked me to pass along to the OBC community that he will be at the show. As far as BC members go, I believe that Gary Mandell plans on being there all day Saturday. I will be there Saturday as well. Can anyone else make it? George? How about the FOOT contingency? Any plans to carpool over for the show? Let me know and we can plan on getting _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:tvalacak@comcast.net?Subject=Re:Upcoming%20Chicago%20Sun-Times%20show) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?Subject= Re:Upcoming%20Chicago%20Sun-Times%20show) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJydWF0bjcyBF9TAzk _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18971;_ylc=X3oDMTM3dWI5aTd2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5NzE-) (1) _creating an OBC online want list _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18973;_ylc=X3oDMTJydmVtNHVwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jw Posted by: "ken goetsch" _kshoes@charter.net _ (mailto:kshoes@charter.net?Subject= Re:creating%20an%20OBC%20online%20want%20list) _kshoes1 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/kshoes1) Sun Mar 8, 2009 6:57 am (PDT) I should know this "stuff".but I don't......I was tooling around this morning on the OBC web site....... I find this....create an online wants list........I find this....create an online wants list..........I find this....cr Looks pretty cool........Looks pre Thanks in advance for any response. Ken Goetsch _Back to top _ (mip://028e36a8/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:kshoes@charter.net?Subject=Re:creating%20an%20OBC%20online%20want%20list) | _Reply to group _ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com?Subject= Re:creating%20an%20OBC%20online%20want%20list) | _Reply via web post _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZmRtdTZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MTIzOTIwBG1zZ0lkAzE4OTczB _Messages in this topic _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18973;_ylc=X3oDMTM3ZTdlNjFpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxN jSWQDMTg5NzM-) (1) _Death announcement _ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/message/18974;_ylc=X3oDMTJyODFwdmo0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzMyMzkzOTIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MT Posted by: "Tom Housley" _directorth@aol.com _ (mailto:directorth@aol.com?Subject= Re:Death%20announcement) _tomhousley_2000 _ (http://profiles.yahoo.com/tomhousley_2000) Sun Mar 8, 2009 7:58 am (PDT) I am very happy to announce that a vintage wantlist has died. With the arrival of the last card from eBay, my 1967 Topps football wantlist is dead. Oh sure, ther are a few I wouldn't mind upgrading, but it feels good to cross off that last card. Thanks to traders Heilenman, Rhoades, Rice & Timmins for their contributions! 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Check out the 5 safest jobs in a (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) ================= Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:53:54 EDT To: vrechek@ameritech.net, tvalacak@comcast.net From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show noon at kevin savage's table seem to work. i will be spending time at kurt turdot's table as well. tj, kurt may take all my money, so you better warn uncle dick! In a message dated 3/8/2009 11:47:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: At the moment I plan to be there Friday night and Saturday. We usually find other OBCers at the closest bargain bins but someone pick a time and place to meet just in case. Geirge Vrechek **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= To: smartalecx@aol.com, vrechek@ameritech.net, tvalacak@comcast.net Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:09:59 -0400 From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show Hey guys, Looking at the dates, I will be making an attempt to get there Sat. Like Mike Rich though, won't be knowing more until the week of the show. John Leroux -----Original Message----- From: smartalecx@aol.com To: vrechek@ameritech.net; tvalacak@comcast.net Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 9:53 am Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show noon at kevin savage's table seem to work. i will be spending time at kurt turdot's table as well. tj, kurt may take all my money, so you better warn uncle dick! In a message dated 3/8/2009 11:47:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net writes: At the moment I plan to be there Friday night and Saturday. We usually find other OBCers at the closest bargain bins but someone pick a time and place to meet just in case. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= To: , Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:52:41 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1916 M101-5 Luther Cook I have that card which I bought from a very reputable dealer (Mark Macrae) so I am confident it is the real deal. I'd be glad to loan you the card soyou could compare it to yours. That would make it easy for you to comparepaper stock and differences under a magnifying glass. Let me know if you would like to borrow it. -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: mikerw7 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 4:08 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1916 M101-5 Luther Cook Hi, Fellas & Linda. Up with a sinus headache, which isn't that fun, but decided to crack openmy "new" SCD. I've got a card I'd never been able to identify but that I've always assumed is a reprint. I just tracked it down as a 1916 M101-5 Luther Cook. It has no #, though he is listed as #37. This one is cut such thatif it had a #, it was cut off. Did Luther's card have a # (1 website suggested I've assumed it's a reprint because it's in too nice condition--sharp corners, white, all that stuff. But how would I know for certain? The back is blank (of course) and the front is "Luther Cook R.F.--New York Am'icns" Any input or thoughts? I appreciate any help or insight any of you might have. Mike Rumley-Wells PS Loving this book! :-) ================= Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:54:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Smartalecx@aol.com From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show Save some of that cash. Uncle Dick will be crushed if you don't stop by. Besides, I love helping you knock a few of those 52 high numbers off your list. T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Smartalecx@aol.com To: vrechek@ameritech.net, tvalacak@comcast.net Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 9:53:54 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Upcoming Chicago Sun-Times show noon at kevin savage's table seem to work. i will be spending time atkurt turdot's table as well. tj, kurt may take all my money, so you better warn uncle dick! In a message dated 3/8/2009 11:47:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, vrechek@ameritech.net At the moment I plan to be there Friday night and Saturday. We usually findother OBCers at the closest bargain bins but someone pick a time and placeto meet just in case. Geirge Vrechek A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:04:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "distelrath66" Subject: FIRST CARD ARRIVED FOR MY TEAM CARD AUTOGRAPH PURSUIT!! I finally received my first reply from my 1970 to 1972 team card autograph quest. It is of Mr. Roy Face ( who we all know and love for his long career) on a 1970 Expos card. I am going to start posting scans once I get more than one autograph per card. Roy just celebrated his 84th birthday justa few weeks ago. I am sending these cards out by year of birth, considering that many of the players are getting way up there in age. Now that I have a taste of this team card project, I am going to be sending cards at lightning speed. Thanks to all that have donated to my cause. It is very much Thanks for reading! Ryan Distelrath ================= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:31:42 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "distelrath66" Subject: Scan of the first card of many in the 70s team card autograph project well folks, here is the first returned autograph from my project. Roy Facefrom when he was in the Expos. If I had been wiser, I would have pulled his rookie card from my 59 ================= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:34:15 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "distelrath66" Subject: my voice recognition software screwed up, so here is the scan. I said a word that the voice recognition software had misinterpreted, thus causing the bee message ================= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:40:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "distelrath66" Subject: the picture I had said the word "s e n d" in both of those letters. Without further ado, here it is( in other words I need to stop talking to this program. Direct link http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/CARD1-expos-RoyFace-1.jpg Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 02:24:42 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Test Only Hmmmmm, can't seem to get into the web site at this hour; just wondering ifany of the groups servers might give me some of the same fits... ... ... ================= To: , Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:56:12 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Mr. Mint Goowd Gaawd, does anyone know what it might take to get a job as (Mr. Mint)Henderson's trash collector? Is it really true that he tosses away more "undesirable" cards in a day than I'll ever dream about owning in a lifetime? Is there no way that the power of a several hundred collectors couldn't at least force him to offer us the sell, before he trashes? I just spent the past three weeks trying to find an affordable hit or two to send to (among others Kent, Gersh, Lynn, Aaron, Richard, Aaron, Linda andso many more) but I have nothing, and nothing to win a $200 or $500 card. I LOVE finding my mailbox getting slammed by all of OBC, but I hurt when Ican't even find a five cent, 2009 triple common nobody, to return fire. Personal thanks to you and yours, will follow, and I am sincerely appreciative, however, I am so humbled, I know my second lifetime will never sufficeto repay all of the most amazing hits you have send my way. You're awesome; and I thank you so much, ================= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint Did I miss something? What's this about a dealer throwing away low grade cards? Are we talking about Bill Henderson or Alan Rosen? Is he throwing away vintage (very bad....) or newer stuff (not quite so bad......)? So many questions........so little time..... From: Walker To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; vCT Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:56:12 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint Goowd Gaawd, does anyone know what it might take to get a job as(Mr. Mint) Henderson's trash collector? Is it really true that he tosses away more "undesirable" cards in a day than I'll ever dream about owning in a lifetime? Is there no way that the power of a several hundred collectors couldn't at least force him to offer us the sell, before he trashes? I just spent the past threeweeks trying to find an affordable hit or twoto send to (among others Kent, Gersh, Lynn, Aaron, Richard, Aaron, Linda andso many more) but I have nothing, and nothing to win a $200 or $500 card. I LOVE finding my mailbox getting slammed by all of OBC, but I hurt when I can't even find a five cent, 2009 triple common nobody, to return fire. Personal thanks to you and yours, will follow, and I am sincerely appreciative, however, I am so humbled, I know my second lifetime will never sufficeto repay all of the most amazing hits you have send my way. You're awesome; and I thank you so much, ================= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:21:52 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint I can say for sure that Bill Henderson does not throw anything away...ever! In a message dated 3/10/2009 4:56:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: Did I miss something? What's this about a dealer throwing away low grade cards? Are we talking about Bill Henderson or Alan Rosen? Is he throwing away vintage (very bad....) or newer stuff (not quite so So many questions........so little time..... From: Walker To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; vCT Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:56:12 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint Goowd Gaawd, does anyone know what it might take to get a job as (Mr. Mint) Henderson's trash collector? Is it really true that he tosses away more "undesirable" cards in a day than I'll ever dream about owning in a lifetime? Is there no way that the power of a several hundred collectors couldn't at least force him to offer us the sell, before he trashes? I just spent the past three weeks trying to find an affordable hit or two to send to (among others Kent, Gersh, Lynn, Aaron, Richard, Aaron, Linda and so many more) but I have nothing, and nothing to win a $200 or $500 card. I LOVE finding my mailbox getting slammed by all of OBC, but I hurt when I can't even find a five cent, 2009 triple common nobody, to return fire. Personal thanks to you and yours, will follow, and I am sincerely appreciative, however, I am so humbled, I know my second lifetime will never suffice to repay all of the most amazing hits you have send my way. You're awesome; and I thank you so much, **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:58:52 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint Yeah, somehow I didn't think Bill would be into that. Alan Rosen, however......... From: "Wite3@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:21:52 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! I can say for sure that Bill Henderson does not throw anything away...ever! In a message dated 3/10/2009 4:56:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenncodere@ yahoo.com writes: Did I miss something? What's this about a dealer throwing away low grade cards? Are we talking about Bill Henderson or Alan Rosen? Is he throwing away vintage (very bad....) or newer stuff (not quite so bad......)? So many questions... .....so little time..... From: Walker To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com; vCT Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 9:56:12 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Mint Goowd Gaawd, does anyone know what it might take to get a job as(Mr. Mint) Henderson's trash collector? Is it really true that he tosses away more "undesirable" cards in a day than I'll ever dream about owning in a lifetime? Is there no way that the power of a several hundred collectors couldn't at least force him to offer us the sell, before he trashes? I just spent the past threeweeks trying to find an affordable hit or twoto send to (among others Kent, Gersh, Lynn, Aaron, Richard, Aaron, Linda andso many more) but I have nothing, and nothing to win a $200 or $500 card. I LOVE finding my mailbox getting slammed by all of OBC, but I hurt when I can't even find a five cent, 2009 triple common nobody, to return fire. Personal thanks to you and yours, will follow, and I am sincerely appreciative, however, I am so humbled, I know my second lifetime will never sufficeto repay all of the most amazing hits you have send my way. You're awesome; and I thank you so much, ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:39:19 -0400 From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: OPC lots There is a lots on ebay with a bunch of duplicates including some big names for the? 1978 ?OPC baseball set and?I think that the seller had 1977 and 1979 also, though I can't track those down at the moment.? Anyone who want to split a lot(s), please LMK.? Thanks http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=350170195760 And just for fun, check out the Bobby Clarke photo ! http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-81-O-PEE-CHEE-SUPER-PHOTO-FULL-SET-24-24_W0QQitemZ120382760974QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hash=item120382760974&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A5%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A2%7C240%3A1318 ================= Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:15:26 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rlabs1" Subject: question One of my fellow teachers and myself are attempting to ask various universtities for banners, pennants, or any other item they might send. My questionis - who would I email if they do not have a public relations department. One thought was to ask their counseling department for help. I would reallyappreciate any input from OBC. Thank you, Richard Labs ================= Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:16:20 EDT To: rlabs1@elp.rr.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question If you are asking universities, most would have a PR department. If not there I would try to speak to the Athletic Director's office. If not there then I would contact the student store directly. One of those three should be able to either send you the item or send you to the correct person. In a message dated 3/11/2009 7:15:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rlabs1@elp.rr.com writes: One of my fellow teachers and myself are attempting to ask various universtities for banners, pennants, or any other item they might send. My question is - who would I email if they do not have a public relations department. One thought was to ask their counseling department for help. I would really appreciate any input from OBC. Thank you, Richard Labs OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:42:45 +0000 (GMT) To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: rpg7292@optonline.net Subject: FT WASH????? hey all, I was wondering and debating if anyone was going to FT wash tonight? I am working all weekend, and tonight is the only night i can make. Is anyone else from the group going? If so I will make the trip....Let me know and or call me my cell # is 914-409-2354 ================= To: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:40:21 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] FT WASH????? I think I'll be going tomorrow (still up in the air a little). Anyone else going on sat? Sorry that I'll miss you Rob...what should I do with all my extra Lajoies? To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rpg7292@optonline.net Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:42:45 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] FT WASH????? hey all, I was wondering and debating if anyone was going to FT wash tonight? I am working all weekend, and tonight is the only night i can make. Is anyone else from the group going? If so I will make the trip....Let me know and or call me my cell # is 914-409-2354 Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:09:41 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: BB Bat I just won this BB Bart on ebay. Does anyone have any idea of how old it http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem ================= To: , Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:02:28 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] BB Bat No idea, but that must have been a HUGE box of Cracker Jacks . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Donaldson To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:09 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] BB Bat I just won this BB Bart on ebay. Does anyone have any idea of how old itis? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item290301248718 ================= Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:09:34 EDT To: david.fallen@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obcbobd@gmail.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] BB Bat I think I remember cracking a tooth on one of those **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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I am planning on going to the White Plains card show on Sunday. If anyone else is going I would enjoy meeting up. _http://www.nyshows.org/White_Plains_Shows_Next_Show.html_ (http://www.nyshows.org/White_Plains_Shows_Next_Show.html) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219850974x1201371016/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:31:03 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Leaving cards behind I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K -a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it,with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items.We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably oursecond largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephewsas ourheirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meetthe valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to,the value of my collection in relation to ourother assets means that it isnot something that I could simplybequeath with no return.I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for mycards and other itemsto end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:25:17 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind In my case while it is not in my will, I have my collection going to my wife and kids. With the exception of their birth year sets which will go to my grandkids. It my way of leaving them something to remembe me by as their other rich grandparents will by them there other toys they need. My wife know how to reach Kurt Tourdot who will help in getting things liguidated as my wife wouldn't know the difference between a 52 Mantle and 2009 Nick Punto, and consider than nothing more than dust collectors. Like you I would like to leave with something other than debt, and with some of your ideas I might incorporate along with this. I am 55 with diabetes and plan on being around long enough to get that Mantle and still be able to buy food but I just watched my father who is 84 go from a man who had never been sick a day in his life to a man who had 3 mini strokes and now gets frustrated because he cant carry on a conversation with pewople. So it can be fast In a message dated 3/19/2009 4:31:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K - a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it, with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items. We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably our second largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephews as our heirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meet the valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to, the value of my collection in relation to our other assets means that it is not something that I could simply bequeath with no return. I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for my cards and other items to end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:46:31 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Getting my collection valued properly really is the tricky thing. The only way that I could see it getting done right would be to have my executor flysomeone over here to do the job, paying expenses and a fee from my estate.I don't think there's anyone based here in Britain who could do the job. Given the potential value of the collection, this would still be worth doing, but would be costly. Alternately, I guess the collection could be valued sight-unseen if I were to do a proper inventory. As an intrinsically lazy person, however, I don'tfeel inclined to do this at the moment. Serves me right for being an overseas-based collector!! From: "LUURSCJG@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:25:17 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. In my case while it is not in my will, I have my collection going to my wife and kids. With the exception of their birth year sets which will goto my grandkids. It my way of leaving them something to remembe me by as their other rich grandparents will by them there other toys they need.My wife know how to reach Kurt Tourdot who will help in getting things liguidated as my wife wouldn't know the difference between a 52 Mantle and 2009 Nick Punto, and consider than nothing more than dust collectors. Like you I would like to leave with something other than debt, and with some of your ideas I might incorporate along with this. I am 55 with diabetes and plan on being around long enough to get that Mantle and still be able to buy food but I just watched my father who is 84 go from a man who had neverbeen sick a day in his life to a man who had 3 mini strokes and now gets frustrated because he cant carry on a conversation with pewople. So it can be fast In a message dated 3/19/2009 4:31:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, glenncodere@ yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K -a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it,with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items.We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably oursecond largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephewsas ourheirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meetthe valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to,the value of my collection in relation to ourother assets means that it isnot something that I could simplybequeath with no return.I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for mycards and other itemsto end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! ================= To: "'Glenn Codere'" , Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:21:28 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind One problem with the appraisal is if you appraise your collection for $20,000, at the time of your passing it may be worth =BD that or double that. It is an unknown. I think the best bet might be to instruct your survivors to contact a dealer you trust, likely one of the OBC certified dealers, to sell with the procedes going to your heirs. Or pick an OBCer in advance whom you could trust to sell everything for you and return a percentage of the sale to your heirs. This is an important thing to think about. I=92ve instructed my wife to contact someone in OBC or one of the dealers such as Mark Macrae, but if she goes first or we go together=85.???. Perhaps I should write up something more From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:47 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Getting my collection valued properly really is the tricky thing. The only way that I could see it getting done right would be to have my executor fly someone over here to do the job, paying expenses and a fee from my estate. I don't think there's anyone based here in Britain who could do the job. Given the potential value of the collection, this would still be worth doing, but would be costly. Alternately, I guess the collection could be valued sight-unseen if I were to do a proper inventory. As an intrinsically lazy person, however, I don't feel inclined to do this at the moment. Serves me right for being an overseas-based collector!! From: "LUURSCJG@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:25:17 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind In my case while it is not in my will, I have my collection going to my wife and kids. With the exception of their birth year sets which will go to my grandkids. It my way of leaving them something to remembe me by as their other rich grandparents will by them there other toys they need. My wife know how to reach Kurt Tourdot who will help in getting things liguidated as my wife wouldn't know the difference between a 52 Mantle and 2009 Nick Punto, and consider than nothing more than dust collectors. Like you I would like to leave with something other than debt, and with some of your ideas I might incorporate along with this. I am 55 with diabetes and plan on being around long enough to get that Mantle and still be able to buy food but I just watched my father who is 84 go from a man who had never been sick a day in his life to a man who had 3 mini strokes and now gets frustrated because he cant carry on a conversation with pewople. So it can be fast In a message dated 3/19/2009 4:31:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, glenncodere@ yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K - a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it, with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items. We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably our second largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephews as our heirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meet the valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to, the value of my collection in relation to our other assets means that it is not something that I could simply bequeath with no return. I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for my cards and other items to end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less . ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:46:42 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Absolutely correct. That $20-25k figure was simply my rough estimate of itscurrent value. The actual value of the collection is constantly changing, between my adding to it and fluctuations in the market. Which is why havingan executor obtain a valuation would be the correct thing to do. And as you point out, I'll have to leave explicit instructions on how to go about doing this! Getting a valuation, however, is only part of the job, though. Essentially,what I'm trying to achieve is a method whereby my family gets a return on the asset, and the collection ends up (potentially) in the hands of my brothers (and sisters!) in OBC. I'd rather that option was there than pass the whole collection lock, stock, and barrel over to a dealer to profit from it. What would happen if I were to pass before Maureen? That's relatively easy.She knows that I'd rather the collection fell into the hands of OBC than anywhere else. She would do whatever is necessary to liquidate the collection in a way that ensures that happens. Of course, this may all be a moot point if OBC no longer exists at the timeof my passing! From: Bob Donaldson To: Glenn Codere ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:21:28 AM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind One problem with the appraisal is if you appraise your collection for $20,000, at the time of your passing it may be worth =BD that or double that. It is an unknown. I think the best bet might be to instruct your survivors to contact a dealer you trust, likely one of the OBC certifieddealers, to sell with the procedes going to your heirs. Or pick an OBCer in advance whom you could trust to sell everything for you and return a percentage of the sale to your heirs. This is an important thing to think about. I=E2=99ve instructed my wife to contact someone in OBC or one of the dealers such as Mark Macrae, but if she goes first or we go together=E2=A6.???. Perhaps Ishould write up something more formal. From:OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:OBC- Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:47 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Getting my collection valued properly really is the tricky thing. The only way that I could see it getting done right would be to have my executor flysomeone over here to do the job, paying expenses and a fee from my estate.I don't think there's anyone based here in Britain who could do the job. Given the potential value of the collection, this would still be worth doing, but would be costly. Alternately, I guess the collection could be valued sight-unseen if I were to do a proper inventory. As an intrinsically lazy person, however, I don'tfeel inclined to do this at the moment. Serves me right for being an overseas-based collector!! From:" LUURSCJG@aol. com " < LUURSCJG@aol. com > To: glenncodere@ yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:25:17 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind In my case while it is not in my will, I have my collection going to my wife and kids. With the exception of their birth year sets which will go to my grandkids. It my way of leaving them something to remembe me by as their other rich grandparents will by them there other toys theyneed. My wife know how to reach Kurt Tourdot who will help in getting things liguidated as my wife wouldn't know the difference between a 52 Mantle and 2009 Nick Punto, and consider than nothing more than dust collectors. Like you I would like to leave with something other than debt, and with some of your ideas I might incorporate along with this. I am 55 with diabetes and plan on being around long enough to get that Mantle andstill be able to buy food but I just watched my father who is 84 go from aman who had never been sick a day in his life to a man who had 3 mini strokes and now gets frustrated because he cant carry on a conversation with pewople. So it can be fast In a message dated 3/19/2009 4:31:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, glenncodere@ yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland , its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K - a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, butalso of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and hasa distinct Detroit feel to it,with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items.We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably our second largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephewsas ourheirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meetthe valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to,the value of my collection in relation to our other assets means that it isnot something that I could simplybequeath with no return.I see this plan as a good compromise whichallows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for mycardsand other itemsto end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:59:17 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I just spent a day last week with Roger Neufeldt, an OBC dealer, to have my collection appraised for insurance purposes. The appraisal will result in a complete inventory with the condition of key cards noted by Roger. I also took over 100 pictures of sets and memorabilia and stored them on a CD for Roger to have and to keep along with the appraisal. Roger has appraised many collections and appeared in court to testify on estate, tax, and insurance matters many times. He is appraising the collection at retail value. I know that the selling price would be less. Hope this helps, ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:55:40 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Some of Glenn's Scottish places...thanks to Google Street View! Hey folks, Thought some of you might find this interesting. The UK version of Google'sStreet View service has just gone live, so I've been checking out some of my fave places, and thought I might share a few of them with you (if it works!!). I'm not sure that each link will load up at the right angle. You might haveto pan around a bit to see the places I've listed. Fave Pubs: The Scotia Bar, Glasgow - My first "local" after moving to Glasgow in 1991,and the place where Maureen and I first met. Beer Cafe, Glasgow- One of my current regular haunts The Bon Accord, Glasgow- finest whisky selection in Glasgow The Park Bar, Glasgow- A great lunch time watering hole. 5 min walk fromwork. The Horse Shoe Bar, Glasgow- Long established Glasgow tradition. Features the longest continuous bar in Western Europe (apparently). Thomson's Bar, Edinburgh - Annoyingly, my absolute fave bar in Edinburgh ison a street not covered! We always go here after attending a rugby match at Murrayfield (usually to drown our sorrows!). The Bow Bar, Edinburgh The Starbank Inn, Edinburgh Diggers (The Athletic Arms), Edinburgh The Golf Tavern, Edinburgh (Those last four are all places that I used to frequent when I lived in Edinburgh. All of them served up tremendous ales....still do!!) Other places of interest: Our house- 48 Burrelton Road, the one with the tree and the local kids in front of it (they were washing cars for pocket money) My office building- Compared to everything else around it, it's a monstrosity. Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh(home of Scottish Rugby) - not a great view, but the best I could find! Kelvingrove Art Gallery & Museum, Glasgow- Just a 10min walk from work. A wonderful 19th century construction in red sandstone. Approx. birthplace of Bobby Thomson - Glasgow's claim to baseball fame. About 100-200yds west of this point. This whole neighborhood was demolished inthe 1960s to make way for the main expressway through Glasgow. The Meadows, Edinburgh - Home field of the Edinburgh Cobras baseball club, for whom I played for 7 seasons for 1984. The little driveway between the two trees cuts right across the first base line, just beyond the path. Hope you enjoyed the tour of my home country! ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:25:49 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I think that is very generous of you and I hope that you outlive all of us...but I think that your Bobby Thompson collection should go to some museum (is there a Thompson museum?). The rest could go to OBC or you can have the executor run a charity auction. In a message dated 3/19/2009 2:31:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K - a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it, with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items. We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably our second largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephews as our heirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meet the valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to, the value of my collection in relation to our other assets means that it is not something that I could simply bequeath with no return. I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for my cards and other items to end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! **************Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220029050x1201385914/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doub ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:30:16 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Hey now, there's an idea! The only place that I think would be interested in my Thomson items would be the Scottish Sports Hall Of Fame. Might be worth dropping them an email. Thanks for the input, Josh! From: "Wite3@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:25:49 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I think that is very generous of you and I hope that you outlive all of us...but I think that your Bobby Thompson collection should go to some museum (is there a Thompson museum?). The rest could go to OBC or you can have theexecutor run a charity auction. In a message dated 3/19/2009 2:31:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K -a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it,with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items.We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably oursecond largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephewsas ourheirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meetthe valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to,the value of my collection in relation to ourother assets means that it isnot something that I could simplybequeath with no return.I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for mycards and other itemsto end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 ================= Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:13:14 -0700 (PDT) To: Glenn Codere , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I'll take hisWhiskey collection... Take Care, From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:30:16 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Hey now, there's an idea! The only place that I think would be interested in my Thomson items would be the Scottish Sports Hall Of Fame. Might be worth dropping them an email. Thanks for the input, Josh! From: "Wite3@aol.com" To: glenncodere@ yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:25:49 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I think that is very generous of you and I hope that you outlive all of us...but I think that your Bobby Thompson collection should go to some museum (is there a Thompson museum?). The rest could go to OBC or you can have theexecutor run a charity auction. In a message dated 3/19/2009 2:31:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenncodere@ yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K -a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it,with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items.We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably oursecond largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephewsas ourheirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meetthe valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to,the value of my collection in relation to ourother assets means that it isnot something that I could simplybequeath with no return.I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for mycards and other itemsto end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 ================= Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:31:55 -0700 (PDT) To: Geno Wagner , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind From my cold, dead hands!.......oh, wait....... From: Geno Wagner To: Glenn Codere ; OBC Ramblings Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 4:13:14 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I'll take hisWhiskey collection.. . Take Care, From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:30:16 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind Hey now, there's an idea! The only place that I think would be interested in my Thomson items would be the Scottish Sports Hall Of Fame. Might be worth dropping them an email. Thanks for the input, Josh! From: "Wite3@aol.com" To: glenncodere@ yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:25:49 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Leaving cards behind I think that is very generous of you and I hope that you outlive all of us...but I think that your Bobby Thompson collection should go to some museum (is there a Thompson museum?). The rest could go to OBC or you can have theexecutor run a charity auction. In a message dated 3/19/2009 2:31:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, glenncodere@ yahoo.com writes: I know that this is somewhat similar to a discussion we had last year, but I hope you can indulge me on this occasion. Next week, Maureen and I have arranged a meeting with our lawyer in order to draft our wills. As we don't have any kids, this is something that we've been encouraged to do by both our lawyer and our financial advisor on a regular basis, so we're finally getting round to it. Most things are going to be fairly straight forward, but there is one item of value which is tricky to deal with. I'm talking (of course) about my sports collection. Since I live in Scotland, its not easy to get the collection valued but I would estimate it to currently be worth somewhere in the region of $20-25K -a not-inconsequential sum. The collection consists not only of cards, but also of autographed items, books, magazines, some equipment, etc., and has a distinct Detroit feel to it,with many Tigers, Lions and Red Wings items.We are not a wealthy family, and in fact my collection is probably oursecond largest asset (only behind our home). We've decided to skip a generation and name our youngest nieces and nephewsas ourheirs. None of them, however, have any interest in American sports, far less a Detroit-based vintage memorabilia collection. I feel though that I would wish them to benefit in some way from this asset, so I have an off-the-wall proposal that I'd like to run by you. In the event of my death, my executor will be instructed to have the collection formally appraised. My plan is that the collection would then be offered in the first instance to OBC (if it still exists!) at 50% of that valuation. It would be up to the OBC members of the time to determine how to meetthe valuation and how to distribute the collection. If OBC choose not to take up the offer or has fallen out of existance, the collection would be liquidated via an auction house. As much as I would like to,the value of my collection in relation to ourother assets means that it isnot something that I could simplybequeath with no return.I see this plan as a good compromise which allows my family to benefit AND provides the opportunity for mycards and other itemsto end up back in the hands of people that I know would get pleasure and enjoyment from them. I'd be interested in any comment or feedback about this plan from you. Cheers for now! Glasgow, Scotland ps Hopefully, this would be something that the 2060 OBC Committee would need to consider! Great Deals on Dell 15" Laptops - Starting at $479 ================= Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:14:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikerw7" Subject: Randy Welk Hi, all. I am putting in a plug for Randy Welk, with whom I have recently traded. He seems like a really good guy, and our trade went well. He sentfirst, without waiting for specifics of what I would send him, and hit me with about 50 cards, mostly 67s and 68s, while also chipping off one of three 77s I still needed (thus setting up Lynn with the assist). I think he is interested in pursuing membership and I know he has traded with a couple other members, too. His email is rjsfgmv@aol.com Let me know if you have any questions. Mike Rumley-Wells ================= Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:57 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikerw7" Subject: Randy Welk Hi, all. I am giving a plug for Randy Welk, with whom I just completed a successful trade. He sent first, hit me with about 50 cards, mostly to my 67 and 68 topps sets, plus he sent one of the three 77s I still needed (thusproviding the assist to Lynn Miller's kill shot). He seems like a good guy and he has traded with a couple other OBCers. He expressed interest in pursuing membership, so I said I would put in a good word. His email is rjsfgmv@aol.com If you have any questions, let me know. Mike R-W PS I thought I'd posted this message, but either I hit the wrong button anddeleted it or it didn't work. If it shows up twice, I apologize; I'm a little fuzzy still, but haven't completely lost my memory. ================= Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:46:47 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: Glenn's Haunts From: DSH46@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:46:12 EDT Subject: Re: Glenn's Haunts To: notify-dg-OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Glenn, where is the Counting House??!! I think I've been in the Scotia with you if that's still your local. I haven't been to Glasgow in years sadly-it's a fine town! **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219619459x1201345309/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= To: , OBC Ramblings server OBC Ramblings server Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:00:01 -0400 From: Aaron Shirley Subject: going inactive Hey everyone. I hate to do this. I love this group and all the collectors, characters, gentlemen, jokers, mentors, geniuses, advisers, givers, experts, idea-men, peacemakers, decision-makers and storytellers in it. But right now my job is at a place where I need to go inactive here at OBC.I wish to stay on the email servers, and if that changes, I know how to change my email status on them, so that is not an issue. If you pray, please pray that I would find peace about what lies ahead, andthat I would continue to give everything I have for the wonderful cause towhich I have been called. Thank you very much. Very very much. Aaron Shirley Internet Explorer 8 =96 Now Available. Faster, safer, easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ ================= Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:50:34 -0700 (PDT) To: OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: First NCAA Tournament Casualty As the immoral W.C. Fields would say: "Even so!" Hey, at least I'm pretty consistent and lost to 3 out of the 4 guys I lost to last year (and I just recently got Peter paid off)!I know could have made it 4 out of 4 but Chuck didn't get in the pool this year, he was too busy trying to get me a tax refund for the first time in years. Great job, Chuck! I thinkMarch Madness is getting more mad each year. We needsome new terms here as "upset"and"lock"are obsolete.Anything less then a 3 seed is prettyiffy. Makes for a more interesting Tournamentbecause even in the first roundmanygames are not decided until the lastfewminutes, I love it! We still have a Big Ten team in each division who will live to see another game.GO BLUE& GO GREEN! Thanks Bob for putting this thing together again this year, & I hope your Midwest team can add your name to my owe list on April 6th! "we keep what we give away!" ================= Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:40:15 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Defining "kilt" To at least one of our esteemed OBC brethren, "kilt" has an obvious meaning. Today I'm stretching the defintion to include a regional dialect - "I done kilt me a set today!" For some time I've had one variation left on my 1974 Topps FB list - #49 Bob Windsor, vertical pose with 1973 stats & one asterisk. Leaving a card show today, I decided to look through one dealer's stack of about 150 cards from that set (NOT in order - man, how I hate that. I mean, if they want you to buy their damn cards, PUT 'EM IN NUMERICAL ORDER!! But I digress...) Anyway, I'm casually looking at the fronts for "Patriots", when lo & behold, I see The Card. Vertical pose? Check! I figured I'd turn it over & find it's not the right variation but it was! Woo Hoo! The master set with all variations is now DONE. It only took almost 4 years from the completion of the base set at the '05 National, but I've now killed 2 Topps vintage FB setsin a month (the 67 set fell earlier this year). Let the celebrations commence! ================= Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:14:39 +0000 (GMT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: rpg7292@optonline.net Subject: Sorry about being so quiet Hello All, I am sorry I have been so quiet and inactive in the past 2 months. Things are CRAZY here in the Gioiahousehold. First of all, we are doing a total demo job on my house and building a new house, and that has to say the least taken alotof time. Next will come packing and moving back to my moms house for alittlewhile. Then Moving into our new house...same address. Also my firehouse has a hockey team that we skate in a tournamentevery year, and I am the goalie, I use to be horrible, but over the past year or so i have been practicing 2 times a week. and in the last 3 months i was out skating and practicing 4-6 times a week, Needless to say when the tournemntrolled around, we did quite well. In 10 years of our house participatingin the tournament(4 yrswith me in goal) we NEVER won a game, well this year we went all the way to the finals loosing in a best of 5 3-2 It sucked to loose but WOW what a Cinderellaride we had. They said I was standing on my head all throughout the tournament. which mind you lasted almost 3 Also In February I spent a quality week in Disney world with my family which was AWESOME. We stayed in the Disney All Star Resort and had a 7 day passto the parks and we had the time of our lives. So In CLosingI want to appoligizefor being quiet, Not sending out thanks, as I did get a few packages and my wife threw out the envelopes, SO I am terribly sorry for that, BUT THANK YOU TO ALL who sent packages to me recently. ALSO I have a few packages that need to be mailed from awhile ago, PLUS superbowlwinnings that need to go out..... Thank you for being so patient. You Guys are great Rob "THE FIREMAN" Gioia ================= Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:37:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Tom Housley From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Defining "kilt" Who could you possibly be talking about, old bean? Sent from my iPhone On 21 Mar 2009, at 21:40, "Tom Housley" wrote: To at least one of our esteemed OBC brethren, "kilt" has an obvious meaning. Today I'm stretching the defintion to include a regional dialect - "I done kilt me a set today!" For some time I've had one variation left on my 1974 Topps FB list - #49 Bob Windsor, vertical pose with 1973 stats & one asterisk. Leaving a card show today, I decided to look through one dealer's stack of about 150 cards from that set (NOT in order - man, how I hate that. I mean, if they want you to buy their damn cards, PUT 'EM IN NUMERICAL ORDER!! But I digress...) Anyway, I'm casually looking at the fronts for "Patriots", when lo & behold, I see The Card. Vertical pose? Check! I figured I'd turn it over & find it's not the right variation but it was! Woo Hoo! The master set with all variations is now DONE. It only took almost 4 years from the completion of the base set at the '05 National, but I've now killed 2 Topps vintage FB sets in a month (the 67 set fell earlier this year). Let the celebrations commence! ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:04:03 -0400 From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Sun Times show report, and reported death to set I broke away from the weekend chaos of spring like weather, horse stables, and three kids to take some time off and get to a R&R of sorts down in the Chicagoland for the Sun Times Show. I stopped in Friday evening, and briefly saw George Vrechek at Kurt Tourdot's table, couldn't find him again the rest of the time there... Sorry George Saturday, I met up with TJ Valacak ( thanks again for the 1960 hits), Ron Perry, and Gary Mandell. I focused on the 1965 set, and yes.... it DIED with Kurt having the Mantle. I think all of us had some pretty good luck with finding cards with a few more dealers putting out discounted vintage. I was also able to knock down the 1954 set down to 5 cards, and gulp... have to start watching for the Banks and Aaron rookies now. Maybe one of them by National time period... I was told by Kurt that he personally may not be in Cleveland this year, as they are expecting a child right around that time period, but he will have a table set up. John Leroux ================= Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 04:26:38 EDT To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: saturday thanks/sun times show ramble thanks to TJ VALACHEK for a nice hit to my 50 bowman set. great times spent with tj, john leroux and ron perry for the whole day. kurt tourdot had a great table for me as usual, and convinced me to start the 33 goudey set (wantlist to be posted soon) as i dip my toe into the pre war era for the first time. crowds were noticably light, although the number of dealers with vintage did not seem to suffer. the usual suspects in addition to kurt with bill henderson, uncle dick decourcey, the detroit comic and card shop (who gave me the final hit needed to kill my '70 kellogg set). of course, levi and mr mint were there, and noticably not busy. spoke with kevin savage who told me that the philly show last week was elbow to elbow, so the light crowd here was surprising. could be because we have 3 or 4 huge shows in chicago each year. missed out on seeing george v, but a great time nonetheless. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 OCT, OBC, DT, TB **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220685763x1201394209/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= To: Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:04:17 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re:saturday thanks/sun times show ramble and card show life in general Sorry boys that I wound up only going Friday night. I covered the area (quickly), spent more than usual, but didn't find much on my priority wants of older baseball. I did kill off a few newly found variations for about two bucks (1973 #124 "no-green leaf" Hardin, #293 1960 "glove in border" Conley, and 1971 white dot #371 Hiatt). Not many others in the Western Hemisphere have been looking for these babies (yet.). I did buy most of a 1977 Topps Cloth sticker set, a bulk of 1964 Topps football, 70s basketball and 6 1953-5 Topps automobile rookie cards in poor to fair to empty the treasury. Not good to hear about the light attendance on Saturday. Friday was very light but they had plenty of autograph guests the rest of the weekend to attract crowds. You start to see fewer dealers set up, I think about 100 for this show, guys stand around, room between tables, vacant spaces. Prices don't seem to have come down much. People are looking for obscure stuff (like me) and it's not easy to find even at a big show. Even if they have the stuff, dealers can only lug in so much cardboard. With some dealers you can quickly see that they don't have anything much different than the last time you invested time in going through their stuff, their prices are still too high or nothing is priced and you have to inquire about every transaction, or nothing is in numeric order. You can skip by pretty quickly. You do have plenty of opportunity to talk to dealers who aren't all that busy, Kurt, Bill Henderson, the SCD guys, big Ron ?, and the well-dressed duo from (?) Detroit - all nice guys. Sorry I didn't get fired up again on Saturday. Who wants to do some trading? George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:36:29 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Las Vegas Meeting Had the great pleasure today to meet another OBC member, Richard Dingman. Richard made a week-long rock-climbing trip to CA with some students from home (MA). Although he couldn't hook-up with Rich Niessen and myself last weekend at the card show, he did find some time to stop by Vegas for a meeting with Rich and I today at a local favorite restaurant of Richard's when he used to visit Vegas many years ago. Unbelievably one of the waitresses from 20 or so years ago still worked there. Richard also had his brother Tim with him. As is always the case it seems when OBCers first meet it was as if we we saying hello to an old friend. Was great talking about cards, OBC and life in general. Great company, great conversation and great food made for a terrific triple-play. Unfortunately the time went too quickly and we all had to be on our way. Thanks Richard and Tim for stopping by and meeting with Rich and I. Made for a terrific day. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:44:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Rick" Subject: Anyone in Arizona March 27-April 3 I will be in Peoria to watch some baseball,golf and sun if anyone is aroundcontact me love to meet some OBCer's. Rick ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:38:56 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Sun Times report I was able to make it to the Sun Times show here in Chicago on Saturday. The first table I hit was Kurt Turdout's, where Gary Mandell was already sorting through a bargain bin. I plopped myself down and started the process of searching through the bins. I was able to put a huge dent into my 59 Fleer Ted Williams set, getting most of the cards for 3 bucks a pop. I founda few football there, and four of the remaining 64's that I needed for that set, including Koufax and Niekro rookie. Ron Perry and John Leroux joined us at the table and we swapped stories for a while. I didn't find much at Bill Hendersons table. I was able to pick up some Bowmans at Uncle Dick's. As I wandered the show, I was able to find a few more 64's, and managed to knock that set down to one single card - the Bob Uecker. Since I wasso close tofinishing aset, I figured that I should add one. Actually, it was more of Gary's idea. Near the end of the day, we stopped by A to Z cards from Detroit. Gary was searching for his elusive 1970 Tony Oliva Kelloggs card to finish that set. He found a bunch of 70's inclduding Brooksie, Banks, and Bench all in the dollar bin. In all, I was able to pick up around 30 from the set. So, the 1970 kelloggs set is posted. It was a great way to end the show. Thanks to the OBCers for hanging out and helping out. http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Quick hits on my Spring Training trip Just got back from a trip to Arizona, one that was lucky enough to include a St. Patrick's Day spring training tilt between Torre's Dodgers and Piniella's Cubs at the new LA / CHISOX facility in Glendale. Met my dad and his family there around the second inning, just missing a special gift, as Dodgers SP Randy Wolf gave his Irish-green hat to my young half-brother! It had #21 written in Sharpie on the inside and everything, a real treat for an 11 year-old. (Too bad Mr. Wolf decided to give things to the Cubs, too, like 7 or 8 runs.) My family's not Irish, but we had the luck that day, as I successfully dove on a foul ball hit into the left field berm seating in the 5th or 6th inning. Off and on during the game, players walked down the foul line and signed autographs at the fence. Family favorite Casey Blake signed for a good long time and each of my three younger siblings added him to their baseballs. We stuck around after the game hoping for more and caught a neat sight. A bunch of players and coaches walked by without a second glance, but Piniella detoured to the fence and passed his (green) Cubs cap up to a young girl at the railing. She just about exploded with smiles and Lou looked pretty pleased himself. It was great to see the fans have such close access to players compared to the regular season. Strangest sight was hitting coach Don Mattingly in Dodger blue! What's the world coming to? :-) Picked up a Cactus League 2009 spring training sked along the way--anyone want to take it off my hands? ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:07:02 EDT To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: new set added - 33 goudey as i close out my topps run, with some trepidation, i took the plunge at the sun times show this past weekend and started my first pre-war set, the 1933 goudey R313 set. i always liked the look of it, and the commons seem fairly easy to find in the semi-beat up shape i am comfortable with. i don't have many dupes, but am heavy in 52 and 53 topps if you are interested. here is my wants and dupes, so please let me know if you can help out, and what you would be interested in in return. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB 1933 GOUDEY (R319) WANTLIST 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 46, 48, 52, 53, 55, 56, 57, 60, 62, 63, 64, 70, 73, 76, 83, 89, 92, 93, 94, 98, 99 102, 103, 106, 107, 108, 109, 111, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 126, 127, 129, 133, 134, 138, 141, 142, 144, 146, 147, 148, 149, 151, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 160, 162, 164, 166, 168, 171, 172, 178, 179, 181, 182, 188, 189, 192, 193, 201, 204, 205, 206, 207, 211, 212, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 232, 233, 234, 235, 236, 240 Dupes Available 54, 61, 68, 97, 104, 199, 231, 239 **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219858252x1201366219/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:31:00 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: twice-a-year UV interruption Dear Collectors/kids/cohorts/dudes(and Linda), I need to tell my dealer how many cases of topps '09 series 2 that I need. So, let me know right away if you can how many boxes you would like. Cost is the same as for series 1... $44/box + postage. If you are new and have any questions, just ask. Now, sometimes I offer some cool card here... all I could dig up were 2 Mantles! Sorry, checklists :) 1969 5th series #412 and 1967 2nd series #103. Let me know if anyone wants either. Both are presentable.. the '69 is marked...kid had 'em all. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:31:11 -0700 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: name your tune roadhouse blues by the doors who I saw in 1968 ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" , Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:51:16 -0600 From: "Marshall West" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Beach Party, Bikini Beach, Monkey's Uncle, Surfer's Holiday....If Annette Funicello sings it, it's my favorite. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:54:48 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune If I was stranded on a desert island and could only listen to 5 songs the rest of my life they would be: 1) Low Spark of High Heeled Boys - Traffic 2) Midnight Cruiser - Steeley Dan 3) Imagine - John Lennon 4) Spread Your Wings - Queen 5) I'm Coming Home - Ozzy Osbourne To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocidB037MSN55C0701A ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:00:57 +0000 (UTC) To: Geno Wagner From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Dreams by Van Halen T.J. Valacak OBC member since August 2005 http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geno Wagner" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:20:37 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:18:02 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Funny you should mention that, as I just wrapped up playing a group of Grateful Dead tunes on Rock Band. Of theirs, my favorite is probably "Sugar Magnolia." Favorite all-time is pretty tough. "Love Removal Machine" by The Cult's up there, along with "Running Down a Dream" by Tom Petty. I'll throw Queen's "One Vision" in just for fun. From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:20:37 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= To: Geno Wagner , Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:32:28 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Have to go with 5 too... 1. The Wedding Song (Dylan) 2. Ball and a Biscuit (The White Stripes) 3. Wings (Josh Ritter) 4. Every Grain of Sand (Dylan) 5. Blue Veins (The Raconteurs) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocidB037MSN55C0701A ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:44:28 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Thunder Road - Springsteen Go Your Own Way - Fleetwood Mac Bird of Paradise - Aerosmith We Just Disagree - Dave Mason Eight Days a Week - Beatles Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen Born to Run - Springsteen Rainbow - Rolling Stones Gimme Back my Filet O' Fish - McDonald's That would be a good start! **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219858252x1201366219/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:10:32 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune A few of my favorites... Led Zeppelin: "What Is and What Should Never Be" Queen: Bohemian Rhapsody April Wine: High Roller Van Halen: Right Now Journey: Good Morning Girl So many choices and it always depends on the mood and the setting...I guessthat's why there's over 5000 songs in my Ipod. John Stamper --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Geno Wagner wrote: From: Geno Wagner Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 5:20 PM OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:42:20 +0000 (UTC) To: OBC Ramblings From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Hello All, Well I have not given this much thought over the years. Having played live for many years I have listened to and performed all kinds of music so this is no easy task to pick a favorite. SoI will choose (5) like a few others have: In no particular order =E2=A2 Days of Future Past - the whole album - Moody Blues =E2=A2 Freedom Rider - Traffic =E2=A2 Get it On - Chase =E2=A2 Inside Looking Out - Grand Funk Railroad =E2=A2 Ornithology - Charlie "Bird" Parker Now that I write these down a whole bunch of othertunes and artists pop into my head; Junior Walker, Cream, Frank Zappa, Crosby-Stills-Nash & Young, Yes, Emerson-Lake & Palmer just to name a few more. I think I could come up with quite a list if put to the test.Interesting strand - I think I'm going to dust off a few CD's and do some listening. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geno Wagner" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:20:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 04:31:18 +0000 (UTC) To: Geno Wagner From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Hello All, Well I have not given this much thought lately. Having played live for many years I have listened to and performed all kinds of music soit is no easy task to pick a favorite. So I will choose (5) like a few others have: In no particular order =E2=A2 Days of Future Past - the whole album - Moody Blues =E2=A2 Freedom Rider - Traffic =E2=A2 Get it On - Chase =E2=A2 Inside Looking Out - Grand Funk Railroad =E2=A2 Ornithology - Charlie "Bird" Parker Now that I write these down a whole bunch of othertunes and artists pop into my head; Junior Walker, Cream, Frank Zappa, Crosby-Stills-Nash & Young, Yes, Emerson-Lake & Palmer just to name a few more. I think I could come up with quite a list if put to the test.Interesting strand - I think I'm going to dust off a few CD's and do some listening. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geno Wagner" To: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:20:37 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:27:48 GMT To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com From: "Bob Saxton" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:03:17 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Name Your Tune(s) Man, I just knew that OBC was full of old rockers!!!! I'm particularly impressed by Snake Talbot's selection of The Moody Blues album "Days Of Future Past", which many take as being one of the earliest examples of my own favorite genre, Progressive Rock. It's a terrific album, and a masterpiece of production given the time (1967). There's no way that I could select just one favorite tune. I listen to a lot of music. Even 5 would be tricky, so I'm going to stretch the limits herea little and pick out 10 pieces that are among my own personal faves. The one limitation that I'll put on myself is that I won't pick any more than one number by any particular artist: Firth Of Fifth (Genesis) - The live version from the album "Seconds Out", featuring one of the most fantastic guitar solos by Steve Hackett. For me, Genesis' work from 1972 to 1977 was my own favorite vein of musical brilliance. Small Hours (John Martyn) - From the album "One World". Turns the lights out, put this on, and drift away. Beautiful. Blackest Eyes (Porcupine Tree) - From "In Absentia", the perfect combination of guitar riffs, melody, and harmonies. The Look Of Love (Dusty Springfield) - Burt Bacharach's finest Nine Feet Underground (Caravan) - From "In The Land Of Grey And Pink" The Dark Side Of The Moon (Pink Floyd) - Yep, the whole album. Masterpiece. Long Ago And Far Away (James Taylor) - When it comes to singer/songwriters,James is hard to beat. Sirius/Eye In The Sky (The Alan Parsons Project) - I've been a Parsons fan from their first album in '76 Close To The Edge (Yes) - The live version from "Yessongs". Yes were the first prog band that I really got into. I pretty much ditched "chart" music soon after hearing them for the first time in the mid 1970s This Guy's In Love With You (Herb Alpert) - OK, so its another Bacharach song, but I'm going to bend my own rule just slightly to include this as it was the first song at our wedding, so it has a special meaning. Well, that's 10. Can't believe that I missed out artists such as Mike Oldfield, Pat Metheny, Rush, UK, The Beatles, Steely Dan, Martin Taylor, Runrig,Michael Nesmith, Anthony Phillips, Camel, Harmonium. Lately, I've been getting into some older stuff bya band called Jade Warrior.If I thought about it for a while, I could probably come up with enough songs to fill out another dozen Top 10's, but it gives you a flavor of what I like to listen to. If you'd like to check out my full collection, click on this link (Yep, I'm NormCash!). Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:05:48 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune(s) Tessie by Dropkick Murphys Second Best also in Fever Pitch Steve Wynn(All Sox fans should listen to the music played at the end of Pitch when they roll the credits) Moonlight Lady Julio Iglesias Someone to Watch Over Me Arrangement in Mr. Holland's Opus Julia Fordham I've Been Everywhere Johnny Cash National Anthem Whitney Houston Friends in Low Places Garth Brooks One Shining Moment All versions Midnight Train to Georgia Gladys Knight It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Jimmy Buffett Make Someone Happy Jimmy Durante As Time Goes By Jimmy Durante My Eyes Adored You Frankie Vallee and the Four Seasons Can't Take My Eyes Off of You Frankie Vallee and the Four Seasons (anythin g from the Jersey Boys) In the Mood Glenn Miller Kodachrome Paul Simon Talkin' Baseball Terry Cashman (older Red Sox version) Judy Blue Eyes Crosby, Stills etc Rubber Duckie Disco version from Sesame Street (if you can find it, it's Wabash Cannonball Version used by Kansas State bank in the '70s Take it Easy Eagles Just a few of the best found on my Ipod Bob Corvello 42 Winston Drive Washington Depot, Ct. 06794 860 868-2939 Friar4@aol.com RobertCorvello@yahoo.com _http://friar4.i8.com/_ (http://friar4.i8.com/) Member: OBC, VCT, DT **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:09:25 EDT To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Top 5---The Angry American by Toby Keith If I Knew Now by Toby Keith A shade of Gray by Greatful Dead Last Kiss by Dicky James (Not pearl Jams version) Green Sleeves (I like the version Johnny Crawford sang on the In a message dated 3/23/2009 8:24:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, illini_grad_90@yahoo.com writes: OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:20:43 -0400 From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: Name Your Tune(s) My Back Pages - Byrds (all time favorite song) America - Simon & Garfunkel (live version of just the two of them, not the studio) Like a Hurricane - Neil Young Suite Judy Blue Eyes - CSN (Woodstock version) Behind the Wall of Sleep - Smithereens ================= To: Geno Wagner Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:40:56 -0600 From: James Silva Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Tough to pick one - maybe Blue by the Jayhawks or Driving With the Brakes On by Del Amitri. I like the question! On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Geno Wagner wrote: > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would > be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your > favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band > by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:01:47 -0700 (PDT) To: James Silva From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Good to see a Glasgow band getting their props among OBCers!! From: James Silva To: Geno Wagner Cc: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 12:40:56 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Tough to pick one - maybe Blue by the Jayhawks or Driving With the Brakes On by Del Amitri. I like the question! On Mar 23, 2009, at 6:20 PM, Geno Wagner wrote: OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:15:22 EDT To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Jungleland by Springsteen **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220085203x1201389322/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 9:07:53 -0400 To: OBC Ramblings From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune I'll admit to being a more "pop-ish" fan. My five would be: 1. Have you Seen Her? Chi-lites 2. Smoke Gets in Your Eyes Platters 3. Vincent Don McLean 4. Suite City Song Cashman and West 5. Centerfield John Fogerty With honorable mention to Ringo Lorne Green Running Man Lindesfarne ---- Geno Wagner wrote: > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:22:22 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune I guess I'm dating myself but here's my Top 10 favorites for albums. Just to many single songs to pick from for favorites. 1. Days of Future Past - Moody Blues 2. Rubber Soul - Beatles 3. The Greatest Hits -Eagles 4. Led Zeppelin IV - Led Zeppelin 5. The Wall - Pink Floyd 6. Boston - Boston 7. Greatest Hits - Journey 8. The Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd 9. Greatest Hits - Steve Miller Band 10. No Jacket Required - Phil Collins Kent Goto **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:44:23 -0700 (PDT) To: Bob Saxton , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune The Judge and I seem tohave come out of the same era. In fact I was kindof torn between which Platters song to go with. House of the Rising Sun - Animals Night Moves - Bob Seger Smoke Gets in Your Eyes - The Platters I Can't Help Myself - Four Tops That'll Be the Day - Buddy Holly& theCrickets "we keep what we give away!" From: Bob Saxton To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:27:48 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune The Great Pretender (Platters) Unchained Melody (Righteous Brothers) Rave On (Buddy Holly) Ramblin' Boy (Tom Paxton) Bad Moon Rising (Creedence Clearwater Revival) and anything by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart Please note: message attached From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses. http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTIlMksq KiT1JiGWjD2D5bXk nNSEroWgg5AxOv4y cHNCGcGSXYLjXa/ -----Inline Message Follows----- OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:15:23 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Mike Mroz" Subject: Re: Name Your Tune Here are my five: She Loves You =96 The Beatles Paranoid =96 Black Sabbath Purple Haze =96 Jimi Hendrix Live Wire =96 Motley Crue No Easy Way Out - Robert Tepper (the ultimate driving tune, IMHO) --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, EEK wrote: > The Judge and I seem tohave come out of the same era. In fact I was kind of torn between which Platters song to go with. > House of the Rising Sun - Animals > Night Moves - Bob Seger > Smoke Gets in Your Eyes - The Platters > I Can't Help Myself - Four Tops > That'll Be the Day - Buddy Holly& theCrickets > "we keep what we give away!" > ________________________________ > From: Bob Saxton > To: illini_grad_90@... > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:27:48 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune > The Great Pretender (Platters) > Unchained Melody (Righteous Brothers) > Rave On (Buddy Holly) > Ramblin' Boy (Tom Paxton) > Bad Moon Rising (Creedence Clearwater Revival) > and anything by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart > Please note: message attached > From: Geno Wagner > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses. > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTIlMksq KiT1JiGWjD2D5bXk nNSEroWgg5AxOv4y cHNCGcGSXYLjXa/ > -----Inline Message Follows----- > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:19:33 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Mike Mroz" Subject: Re: Name Your Tune My five are: She Loves You =96 The Beatles Paranoid =96 Black Sabbath Purple Haze =96 Jimi Hendrix Live Wire =96 Motley Crue No Easy Way Out - Robert Tepper (the ultimate driving tune, IMHO) --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, EEK wrote: > The Judge and I seem tohave come out of the same era. In fact I was kind of torn between which Platters song to go with. > House of the Rising Sun - Animals > Night Moves - Bob Seger > Smoke Gets in Your Eyes - The Platters > I Can't Help Myself - Four Tops > That'll Be the Day - Buddy Holly& theCrickets > "we keep what we give away!" > ________________________________ > From: Bob Saxton > To: illini_grad_90@... > Cc: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 4:27:48 AM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune > The Great Pretender (Platters) > Unchained Melody (Righteous Brothers) > Rave On (Buddy Holly) > Ramblin' Boy (Tom Paxton) > Bad Moon Rising (Creedence Clearwater Revival) > and anything by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart > Please note: message attached > From: Geno Wagner > To: OBC Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses. > http://thirdpartyof fers.juno. com/TGL2141/ fc/BLSrjpTIlMksq KiT1JiGWjD2D5bXk nNSEroWgg5AxOv4y cHNCGcGSXYLjXa/ > -----Inline Message Follows----- > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:03:48 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "jrhatchjr" Subject: Re: Name Your Tune Great topic Geno! No way I can just pick one song, though. Here's more than a few of my faves...roughly newer to older... Grace Potter and the Nocturnals: Here's to the Meantime Sarah Borges and the Broken Singles: Diablito Yeah Yeah Yeah's: Cheated Hearts John Butler Trio: Ocean (solo) Foo Fighters: Learn to Fly Weezer: Buddy Holly Cracker: Low Cake: Short Skirt/Long Jacket Joe Walsh: The Confessor Breeders: Cannonball Sass Jordan: Pissin' Down Dire Straits: Romeo and Juliet Cheap Trick: Dream Police Molly Hatchett: Dreams I'll Never See AC/DC: Jailbreak ZZ Top: Jesus Just Left Chicago Grateful Dead: US Blues Happy Collecting! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Geno Wagner wrote: > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:57:42 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ddejong@everestkc.net Subject: Re: Name Your Tune

The Cars - The Cars

Cheap Trick - Live at Budokan

Dire Straits - Making Movies

Van Halen - Van Halen

Elvis Costello - Armed Forces (or This Years Model...tough call).

Aerosmith - Rocks

Honorable mention to dozens of artists that got me excited over the years including AC/DC, Eddie Money, BTO, The Who, Tom Petty, Queen,and so many others that it hurts to think of who I would leave off.

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================= To: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:27:50 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Name Your Tune Great Topic. I've been traveling all day and have enjoyed reading everyone's posts. Here's my 2 cents Top 10 Songs (no more than 1 per artist) I'm only Sleeping - Beatles Johnny B Goode- Chuck Berry Mystery Train - Elvis Like a Rolling Stone - Dylan My Babe - Little Walter Will the Circle Be Unbroken - Staple Singers Sounds of Silence - Simon and Garfunkel I Haven't Seen Mary in Years - Bill Monroe California Dreaming - Mama's and Papas I Wanna Be Sedated - Ramones Top 10 Albums Rubber Soul - Beatles White Album - Beatles Sgt Pepper - Beatles The River - Springsteen London Calling - The Clash Revolver - Beatles Beggar's Banquet - Rolling Stones Please Please Me - Beatles Chuck Berry's Golden Decade vol 1 Highway 61 Revisited - Dylan ================= Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:08:37 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Joel GYselinck Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Name Your Tune I'll have to go with Little Wing... the Stevie Ray Vaughan Version --- On Tue, 3/24/09, jrhatchjr wrote: From: jrhatchjr Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Name Your Tune To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Received: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:03 PM Great topic Geno! No way I can just pick one song, though. Here's more than a few of my faves...roughly newer to older... Grace Potter and the Nocturnals: Here's to the Meantime Sarah Borges and the Broken Singles: Diablito Yeah Yeah Yeah's: Cheated Hearts John Butler Trio: Ocean (solo) Foo Fighters: Learn to Fly Weezer: Buddy Holly Cracker: Low Cake: Short Skirt/Long Jacket Joe Walsh: The Confessor Breeders: Cannonball Sass Jordan: Pissin' Down Dire Straits: Romeo and Juliet Cheap Trick: Dream Police Molly Hatchett: Dreams I'll Never See AC/DC: Jailbreak ZZ Top: Jesus Just Left Chicago Grateful Dead: US Blues Happy Collecting! --- In OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com, Geno Wagner wrote: > OBCers -- > After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! > What's yours? > Take Care, > Geno Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ ================= To: , Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:04:05 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Mr. Kell As a Tigers fan, I know I am extremely biased, but, please, forgive me here, because I feel compelled to relate how bad I feel for the Tigers nation to learn about Mr. Kill's passing. I know George had a great career holdingdown the Tigers hot corner for several years, but he also had a pretty amazing career as the "color" man for Tigers television broadcasts and I can'teven begin to itemize or numerate how many times he "rescued" the publically reclusive superstar Al Kaline during his public television blunders. Mr. Kell will be remembered for his powerful bat, defensive prowess and in depth and colorful broadcasts, but ultimately, since I listened to so many ofhis broadcasts, I know I will remember him as a friend. To my honorary FOOT friends, I know we mourn, and I also know we mourn in pride. ================= To: "Walker" , Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:18:30 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell Oooops, I forgot to include these quotes... ... Regarding George's winning of the batting title in 1949... ... ... Kell's feelings about the batting title subsequently became mixed. "I didn't know it at the time, but it prevented (Williams) from winning theTriple Crown," Kell told the Boston Globe. "To tell you the truth, that whole thing bothered me. The next spring training, in fact, I told Ted that. I felt awful about it. "But Ted, he was so gracious about it. He said, 'Look, you won it fair and square. There's nothing to feel sorry about. You went 2-for-3 (on the finalday) and I went hitless, that's it. What's to feel sorry about?' That was Ted, gracious and always generous." A few years later, Kell and Williams became teammates. During the Tigers' last-place 1952 season, the club sent Kell to Boston in a nine-player deal. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walker To: talbot1@comcast.net ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell As a Tigers fan, I know I am extremely biased, but, please, forgive me here, because I feel compelled to relate how bad I feel for the Tigers nation to learn about Mr. Kill's passing. I know George had a great career holdingdown the Tigers hot corner for several years, but he also had a pretty amazing career as the "color" man for Tigers television broadcasts and I can'teven begin to itemize or numerate how many times he "rescued" the publically reclusive superstar Al Kaline during his public television blunders. Mr. Kell will be remembered for his powerful bat, defensive prowess and in depth and colorful broadcasts, but ultimately, since I listened to so many ofhis broadcasts, I know I will remember him as a friend. To my honorary FOOT friends, I know we mourn, and I also know we mourn in pride. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:36:06 -0700 To: Bob Donaldson From: GRANT RAINSLEY Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Name Your Tune Content-Disposition: inline Okay, I'll play, no order.....tough to choose from 10 million or so: Sunday Morning Comin' Down- Johnny Cash Great Canadian Railroad Trilogy- Gordon Lightfoot When I'm 64- Beatles In the Mood- Glenn Miller Four Strong Winds- Ian and Sylvia I Fall to Pieces- Patsy Cline I Heard it Through the Grapevine- CCR Obladi, Oblada- Beatles ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Donaldson Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:56 pm Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Name Your Tune To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Great Topic. I've been traveling all day and have enjoyed > readingeveryone's posts. > Here's my 2 cents > Top 10 Songs (no more than 1 per artist) > I'm only Sleeping - Beatles > Johnny B Goode- Chuck Berry > Mystery Train - Elvis > Like a Rolling Stone - Dylan > My Babe - Little Walter > Will the Circle Be Unbroken - Staple Singers > Sounds of Silence - Simon and Garfunkel > I Haven't Seen Mary in Years - Bill Monroe > California Dreaming - Mama's and Papas > I Wanna Be Sedated - Ramones > Top 10 Albums > Rubber Soul - Beatles > White Album - Beatles > Sgt Pepper - Beatles > The River - Springsteen > London Calling - The Clash > Revolver - Beatles > Beggar's Banquet - Rolling Stones > Please Please Me - Beatles > Chuck Berry's Golden Decade vol 1 > Highway 61 Revisited - Dylan > Thanks > Bob ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:47:41 -0400 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: tobacco sheets Anybody know where I can get the Ultra Pro tobacco card sheets for cheap...need about 250. ================= Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:33:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikerw7" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Name Your Tune This was ridiculously difficult and I spent way too much time on it. But Ireally enjoyed reading everyone else's. We could probably do a fascinating study about our membership based on what our musical tastes reveal. Meanwhile, here are my Top 12, categorized: Sunday Bloody Sunday=97U2 Treasure (Whatever Happened to Pete the Chop?)--U2 Stars=97Les Miserables Bring Him Home=97Les Miserables Pictures at an Exhibition=97Mussorgsky (bride's entrance at our wedding=97played by our friends) In the River=97The Call Walk Forever By My Side=97The Alarm (first dance at our wedding) Born to Run=97Bruce Springsteen Solsbury Hill--Peter Gabriel Hard to Get=97Rich Mullins Wedding Dress=97Derek Webbs Show the Way=97David Wilcox Mike R-W ================= Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:36:57 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell While I agree with Walker that Kell was beloved here in the D, and was a great player and a pretty good color man on TV, I had the displeasure of meeting him in person once. I was extremely disappointed and felt he was a SOB. Always disappointing when you meet a hero and come away feeling like they are not a nice person. Mike Rich In a message dated 3/25/09 4:19:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, wguthrie@axint.net writes: > Oooops, I forgot to include these quotes... ... > Regarding George's winning of the batting title in 1949... ... ... > Kell's feelings about the batting title subsequently became mixed. > "I didn't know it at the time, but it prevented (Williams) from winning the > Triple Crown," Kell told the Boston Globe. "To tell you the truth, that whole > thing bothered me. The next spring training, in fact, I told Ted that. I > felt awful about it. > "But Ted, he was so gracious about it. He said, 'Look, you won it fair and > square. There's nothing to feel sorry about. You went 2-for-3 (on the final > day) and I went hitless, that's it. What's to feel sorry about?' That was Ted, > gracious and always generous." > A few years later, Kell and Williams became teammates. During the Tigers' > last-place 1952 season, the club sent Kell to Boston in a nine-player deal. > ----- Original Message ----- From: Walker > To: talbot1@comcast.net ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:04 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell > As a Tigers fan, I know I am extremely biased, but, please, forgive me here, > because I feel compelled to relate how bad I feel for the Tigers nation to > learn about Mr. Kill's passing. I know George had a great career holding down > the Tigers hot corner for several years, but he also had a pretty amazing > career as the "color" man for Tigers television broadcasts and I can't even > begin to itemize or numerate how many times he "rescued" the publically > reclusive superstar Al Kaline during his public television blunders. Mr. Kell will > be remembered for his powerful bat, defensive prowess and in depth and > colorful broadcasts, but ultimately, since I listened to so many of his broadcasts, > I know I will remember him as a friend. > To my honorary FOOT friends, I know we mourn, and I also know we mourn in > pride. Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= To: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:35:09 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Question on the value of a 53 Topps Willie Mays I'm working on a potential trade for a 53 Topps Willie Mays. The card is about G+. In looking in the latest SCD the values are 2600 650 300. I'm curious why a VG only books for 300 if a NM is 2600. Any ideas? ================= Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:48:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Bob Donaldson , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question on the value of a 53 Topps Willie Mays Bob -- I noticed in the last SCD they got away from the EX50%, VG30% formula, which I was glad to see. I supply pricing inputs for T202s in the book and was happy to see the NM$700, VG$70 in the last one, because that's exactly how it has priced out in the last few years. I think it's a combo of getting better inputs, and the effect of graded cards. The graded cards make it very easy to track prices now, and also make a NM much more "exclusive" since it's not a Bill Hendersen NM vs a Mike Wheat NMvs a Kit Young NM, which are all different. Anyway, I think VG at 10% of NM is actually pretty accurate for pre-war cards, with EX about 30%. The SCD also says that in between grades go for halfway between the grades. This is not true in reality. I studied it for awhile (again, on T202s), and found a "between-grade" card goes for about 40% above the lower grade. For instance here's the T202 common prices: NM$700, EX$200, VG$70 (I'm not home, but I think those are right). According to the SCD formula, an EX-MT would be $450, according to my formula based on auction results, it would go for $200 x 1.4 $280. Likewise, a VG-EX by SCD rules would be $135, by myrules it would be $70 x 1.4 $98. Obviously, it doesn't work thatway all the time, but it's what I saw after tracking prices for about three Hope that all made sense! Take Care, From: Bob Donaldson To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:35:09 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question on the value of a 53 Topps Willie Mays I=E2=99m working on a potential trade for a 53 Topps Willie Mays. The card is about G+. In looking in the latest SCD the values are 2600 650 300. I=E2=99m curious why a VG only books for 300 if a NM is2600. Any ideas? ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:04:39 -0400 From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Wantlist helper With nationals coming up, I started making up a quick and easy Excel spreadsheet to use as a wantlist that I can share with people if you are interested. I am about 2 days away from having it done for the 48-55 Bowmans, and the 52-79 Topps sets. I am done with a Pre-war section that includes the T-205, T206, 34-36 Diamond Stars and Batter ups, 48-49 Leaf, 33-34 Goudey, Exibits, and 39 and 40 Play Ball. It has the book price, a column for Ebay pricing that you would have to put in, and what your purchase price is. Last column is what the percentage the difference is from book price to paid price. I get to a show with my basic wantlist, and have no idea what pricing I was finding the card for while searching Ebay, or some other means. I just thought this would help me, and if anyone wants a copy of it, let me know. I know its not perfect, and of course pricing can vary from Beckett, to SCD I'm just using it as a guide/starting place Also I want to thank everyone including Wayne Delia that put the checklists and links up on the OBC website that I utilized to help me with this. John Leroux ================= Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:51:18 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: There's one born every minute..... Somebody somewhere will be stupid enough to fork out 5 bucks (+ postage) for this. A $1 bin card if I've ever seen one. It's only got a BV of $15 in mint! ================= Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:09:34 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's one born every minute..... make him an offer for $0.08 **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:16:42 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's one born every minute..... Only if he throws in postage for a quarter! I actually need that card, but not that badly!! From: "DaPatriot1@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:09:34 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] There's one born every minute..... make him an offer for $0.08 Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. ================= Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:34:53 -0700 (PDT) To: mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBCRamblings From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell George reportedlysuffered from dementia / Alzheimer's disease, which is often only diagnosed in the very later stages due to denial and the stigma that surrounds the disorder.Neighbors in his home townin Arkansas (Swifton I think) looked after him because of his "carelessness".They reported that he wasat timesreclusive, disoriented, and slovenly. At one pointhe was saved from a fire in his home when a passerby saw smoke coming from the house andmanaged to get him out. George lost most of his baseball memorabilia including various awards and acknowledgments in the fire. Later he had little recollection of the events and circumstances surrounding the fire. Mike, I don't know whenyou had your negative experience with him, but Alzheimer's patientshave dramatic mood shifts and can be very combative and verbally abusive at times. This is most pronouncedwhen they are out oftheir comfort zone, ie strange places and unfamiliar surroundings.Asmentioned earlier, Alzheimer's patients are often symptomatic years before the diseaseis properly diagnosed andusually too late forwhat littletreatmentthat is available. "we keep what we give away!" From: "mikesportsfan@aol.com" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 5:36:57 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell While I agree with Walker that Kell was beloved here in the D, and was a great player and a pretty good color man on TV, I had the displeasure of meeting him in person once. I was extremely disappointed and felt he was a SOB. Always disappointing when you meet a hero and come away feeling likethey are not a nice person. Mike Rich In a message dated 3/25/09 4:19:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, wguthrie@axint. net writes: Regarding George's winning of the batting title in 1949... ... ... Kell's feelings about the batting title subsequently became mixed. "I didn't know it at the time, but it prevented (Williams) from winning theTriple Crown," Kell told the Boston Globe. "To tell you the truth, that whole thing bothered me. The next spring training, in fact, I told Ted that. I felt awful about it. "But Ted, he was so gracious about it. He said, 'Look, you won it fair and square. There's nothing to feel sorry about. You went 2-for-3 (on the finalday) and I went hitless, that's it. What's to feel sorry about?' That was Ted, gracious and always generous." A few years later, Kell and Williams became teammates. During the Tigers' last-place 1952 season, the club sent Kell to Boston in a nine-player deal. ----- Original Message ----- From: Walker To: talbot1@comcast. net ; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 3:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mr. Kell As a Tigers fan, I know I am extremely biased, but, please, forgive me here, because I feel compelled to relate how bad I feel for the Tigers nation to learn about Mr. Kill's passing. I know George had a great career holding down the Tigers hot corner for several years, but he also had a pretty amazing career as the "color" man for Tigers television broadcasts and I can't even begin to itemize or numerate how many times he "rescued" the publically reclusive superstar Al Kaline during his public television blunders. Mr. Kell will be remembered for his powerful bat, defensive prowess andin depth and colorful broadcasts, but ultimately, since I listened to so many of his broadcasts, I know I will remember him as a friend. To my honorary FOOT friends, I know we mourn, and I also know we mourn in pride. ************ ** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food. aol.com/frugal- feasts?ncid emlcntusfood0000 0001) Oooops, I forgot to include these quotes... ... ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:50:52 -0500 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: 3 Available 1955 Golden Press cards Hi gang! Saw these three cards at the 80% off box in the local card shop today,so I thought I'd pick them up and offer them to any of the gang who collect them. They are these three: Art Houtteman Charlie Grimm Ruben Gomez. First come, first served. Just let me know who wants what! Father Pat Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail=AE. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocidTXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:10:13 -0400 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Randy Welk I also just received 4 cards from Randy in Fresno CA, not asking for anything special in return. he likes our OBC philosophy and would join but feels he does not have the volume to participate adequately. I would support him if he applies. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikerw7@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:48:57 +0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Randy Welk Hi, all. I am giving a plug for Randy Welk, with whom I just completed a successful trade. He sent first, hit me with about 50 cards, mostly to my 67 and 68 topps sets, plus he sent one of the three 77s I still needed (thus providing the assist to Lynn Miller's kill shot). He seems like a good guy and he has traded with a couple other OBCers. He expressed interest in pursuing membership, so I said I would put in a good word. His email is rjsfgmv@aol.com If you have any questions, let me know. Mike R-W PS I thought I'd posted this message, but either I hit the wrong button anddeleted it or it didn't work. If it shows up twice, I apologize; I'm a little fuzzy still, but haven't completely lost my memory. ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:36:47 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "richard_niessen" Subject: Randy Welk In the past few days I have seen the name Randy Welk being rambled around and I thought I would add my two cents. I have been in communication with Randy for a number of weeks now and find him to be a sincere collector with OBC cardboard wrapped around his heart. We have had trades, and while his collection may seem small compared to what the group is used to, he has been able to pass cards along to me that I haven't gotten anywhere else. I detect a strong OBC spirit associated with this collector and urge all members to recognize his sincerity. Rich Niessen ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:41:15 -0400 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum (1959) One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a US Army soldier. Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies or even TV shows ? ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:09:31 +0000 (UTC) To: Ed Schott From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Well there is the obvious one: Chuck Connors as "The Rifleman" although Chuck had a very brief Major League career. BE WELL!!! REGARDS --------------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Schott" To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:41:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum (1959) One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a USArmysoldier. Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies or even TV shows ? ================= Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:13:02 EDT To: easchott@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Don Drysdale in the Beverly Hills Billies Another Dodger in the Brady Bunch Think it was Garvey. Joe carbeneau in the Natural several others also but cant remember who. In a message dated 3/28/2009 8:41:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, easchott@comcast.net writes: Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum (1959) One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a US Army Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies or even TV shows ? **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 03:01:08 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "welfar03" Subject: Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, LUURSCJG@... wrote: I think there were a couple of Dodgers in an episode of The Munster's. Mantle was in an episode of Remington Steele. There were several players in an episode of Married with Children. There were also a couple of shows that featured cards. Hart to Hart and Simon and Simon. > Don Drysdale in the Beverly Hills Billies > Another Dodger in the Brady Bunch Think it was Garvey. > Joe carbeneau in the Natural several others also but cant remember who. > In a message dated 3/28/2009 8:41:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > easchott@... writes: > Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum (1959) > One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns > One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a US Army > soldier. > Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies > or even TV shows ? > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncidemlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:04:40 EDT To: kenpillion@windstream.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? In a message dated 03/28/2009 8:01:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kenpillion@windstream.net writes: There were also a couple of shows that featured cards. Hart to Hart and Simon and Simon. Gilligan's Island also had cards, some of which were picked up during Vegas97 **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:36:59 -0400 To: topgolf@aol.com,kenpillion@windstream.net,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? There was Keith Hernadez in Sienfeld and Dustin Hoffman in Rainman had some '54 topps, I think, including the Kaline RC. At 11:04 PM 3/28/2009, topgolf@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 03/28/2009 8:01:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >kenpillion@windstream.net writes: >There were also a couple of shows that featured cards. Hart to Hart and >Simon and Simon. >Gilligan's Island also had cards, some of which were picked up during Vegas97 >A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. >See >yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:37:40 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: 57 Topps---send WL I bought a pretty good size lot of 1957 Topps baseball recently, thinking Icould cut a bunch off my list at once. I started off needing 170 cards...well, out of 203 cards in the lot I was able to knock off just 28 that I needed...rather disappointing as I didn't get them "that" cheap. But rather than lament that, let's just say I have some dupes to share. There was some duplication within this lot, so I probably have 120 different ones left...that should be enough to help out OBC world! So, if you'd like to acquire some of my sour grapes lot...snip the 1957 section of your wantlist and email me! I'll see what I can do. NOTE : These are all commons and VG or so. Some worse, not many better. Nothing rare at all. If your 57 list includes guys like Mantle, Clemente, Maysand Frank Robinson only...sorry they ain't here. (They ain't in my binder either OBC Forever Brian Lindholme P.O. Box 1551 Ridgefield,WA 98642 ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:08:59 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Didn't an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation feature a card in one episode? I seem to recall it being a '53 Mantle. From: "topgolf@aol.com" To: kenpillion@windstream.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:04:40 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? In a message dated 03/28/2009 8:01:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kenpillion@windstre am.net writes: There were also a couple of shows that featured cards. Hart to Hart and Simon and Simon. Gilligan's Island also had cards, some of which were picked up during A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:15:14 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: On the hunt for more images Once again, I'm in need of a couple images for my web page. A Google Image Search did nothing for me, so its over to OBC to see if I can get some satisfaction. I need good quality images (at least 300 pixels width) in either jpg, bmp, or gif format of: 1963/64 Parkhurst #41 Bruce Macgregor 1962 Topps Baseball Bucks Jim Bunning I'd be very grateful for any help! Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:03:33 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Joe Isaac" Subject: Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Drysdale was the one in a Brady Bunch episode. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, LUURSCJG@... wrote: > Don Drysdale in the Beverly Hills Billies > Another Dodger in the Brady Bunch Think it was Garvey. > Joe carbeneau in the Natural several others also but cant remember who. > In a message dated 3/28/2009 8:41:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > easchott@... writes: > Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum (1959) > One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns > One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a US Army > soldier. > Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies > or even TV shows ? > **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 > less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncidemlcntusfood00000001) ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:44:10 EDT To: jwi62@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? anyone remember john roseboro in mr. ed? he lept to the top of the backstop as ed slid into home In a message dated 3/29/2009 7:03:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jwi62@hotmail.com writes: Drysdale was the one in a Brady Bunch episode. --- In _OBC-Ramblings@OBC-RamblingOBC_ (mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com) , LUURSCJG@... wrote: > Don Drysdale in the Beverly Hills Billies > Another Dodger in the Brady Bunch Think it was Garvey. > Joe carbeneau in the Natural several others also but cant remember who. > In a message dated 3/28/2009 8:41:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > easchott@... writes: > Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum > One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns > One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a US Army > soldier. > Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies > or even TV shows ? > ************ **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? > less. (_http://food.http://food. Don Drysdale in the Beverly Hills Billies > Another Dodger in the Brady Bunch Think it was Garvey. > Joe carbeneau in the Natural several others also but cant remember who. > In a message dated 3/28/2009 8:41:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > easchott@... writes: > Just finished watching "The Wonderful Country" starring Robert Mitchum > One of my lazy rainy day hobbies is old westerns > One of the cameo actors was none other than Satchel Paige as a US Army > soldier. > Anybody else have examples of baseball big leaguers in non or sport movies > or even TV shows ? > ************ **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? > less. (_http://food.http://food. Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:47:12 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: baseball cards in movies In 'Mask', staring Cher & Sam Sheppard, her disfigured teenage son pines for a '55T Snider to finish his collection of the starting Brooklyn Dodger team from the '55 World Series. One her boyfriends biker friends finally getshim one and I watch in horror as he pins it to his pictorial outfield withthe other cards(AAAAAHHHHH!!). ================= To: Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:58:22 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: Drysdale in Hillbillies Joe's comment reminded me that Jethro kept finding golf eggs and couldn't figure out why people with clubs kept chasing him and yelling at him. ================= Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:51:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard Dingman" Subject: Met my first OBCers ... Took a week off work to escort some NH high schoolers to Joshua Tree, CA, for some rock climbing, then had 3 days in Vegas to hang out. My brother came down from CO to visit and one morning we met at my favorite breakfast spot (The Omelette House) with OBCers Rich Niessen and Lynn Miller. We slid some cardboard across the table to start, and I was the big receiver as I still have trouble finding anything for Lynn, who was very generous to this rookie, as was Rich also. So we traded stories and information and generally overate through the morning which we extended into the early afternoon before breaking up to head our own ways. It was wonderful to put two faces to names finally after several months in the group, and even more wonderful to meet two such pleasant gentlemen. I look forward to seeing both Lynn and Rich again, and hopefully meeting other cardboard swappers in the near future! Best to all, Richard Dingman ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:34:25 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: New Address Finally moved in the new home on Friday. One of those "everything that could go wrong, did go wrong" moves. The house we moved into was a mixed use house (part commercial/part residential). We had to go through 4 differentbanks until we got a mortgage due to the commercial part. Final approval was 4 days before the closing so that's cutting it close. The closing was Friday and we were scheduled to due the walk through at 1:00 but got a call in the morning that the seller wanted to do it at 3:00. We showed up at 3:00 and she was about 1/2 moved out (the house should have been empty). The closing was suppose to happen at 3:30 but we went back and forth about what to do with the house not being empty. Then we found outthat the ex-husband's name was still on the deed and the copy he signed over was still with his lawyer who couldn't be reached. The ex-husband had to drive 40 miles to resign the deed. While we were waiting for him we wentback to the house at 6:30 to do another walk through even though the movers were still taking stuff out. Anyway we eventually got everything straightened out and were finally handed the keys to the house at 7:30. Here's the new address: Bob Reed 89 Chapel Street Wallingford, CT 06492 I've been to busy with the move to thank some people so I hope to do that soon. I just have to find which box I put the envelopes in. Internet Explorer 8 =96 Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ ================= To: "OBC-Ramblings" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:42:26 -0500 From: "mzentko" Subject: FW: need 76-79 hostess and twinkie need a couple of bucks worth of these to hit back a guy I owe any help appreciated 1979 HOSTESS (EX or better) 2a (d-of), 31, 32, 33, 35, 38b (Carew w/Little Head-collar trim showing),94, 95, 96, 100, 101, 102, 125, 144, 145, 146 and 149. 1978 HOSTESS (EX or better) 31 (Murray), 56b (Thornton), 84 (Howell), 99 (Pocoroba), 122 (Niekro), 133 (Maddox), 139b (Texas). 1977 TWINKEE - ( EX - no creases) 34 (Yount), 35 (Garvey - upgrade), 36 (Brett), 55 (May), 56 (Mayberry), 69 (Bell), 81 (Ryan) and 116 (Nettles). 1977 HOSTESS (Upgrades to EX or better) 32 (Brock). 1976 TWINKEE - (EX - no creases) 1, 7, 9, 10, 12, 16, 19, 21, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 32, 33 (upgrade), 34, 35, 36, 39, 40, 43, 44 (upgrade), 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 54, 55, 56, 57. 976 HOSTESS (EX or better) 63 (Cey-Reversed Negative), 121b (Messersmith), 138b (Briggs). 1976 HOSTESS (UPGRADE to EX or better) 11 (Yount), 22 (Bench), 56 (Palmer), 58 (Chambliss), 59 (Chalk). ================= Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:06:00 +0000 (UTC) To: Glenn Codere From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Hello All, This email will let the cat out of the bag as I have always been a bit of a "trekee". As Glen writes there was a baseball card in a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode. In the episode entitled "The Most Toys" A trader fakes Data's death to add him to his collection of rare and unique objects. Among the rare items is a `62 Topps Baseball card of Roger Maris. Inthe episode of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 entitled "In the Cards"set in 2373 , Jake Sisko and Nog get into troublewhile trying to cheer up Benjamin Sisko by attempting to acquire a mint-condition 1951 Willie Mays rookie baseball card in an auction. There is also a baseball card of a fictional ball player named Buck Bokai who was purported to have broken many Major League records which is on Sisko's desk and was noted in the episode "The Storyteller". "Okay Scotty - beam me up" - BE WELL!!!! Live Well and Prosper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Codere" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:08:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? Didn't an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation feature a card in one episode? I seem to recall it being a '53 Mantle. From: "topgolf@aol.com" To: kenpillion@windstream.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:04:40 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: baseball stars in non-sports movies ? In a message dated 03/28/2009 8:01:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kenpillion@windstre am.net writes: There were also a couple of shows that featured cards. Hart to Hart and Simon and Simon. Gilligan's Island also had cards, some of which were picked up during Vegas97 In a message dated 03/28/2009 8:01:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kenpillion@windstre am.net writes: There were also a couple of shows that featured cards. Hart to Hart and Simon and Simon. Gilligan's Island also had cards, some of which were picked up during Vegas97 A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= To: Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:14:08 -0500 From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" Subject: Several availables! FCFS Hi gang, In addition to the 3 1955 Golden Press cards, smaller and full color, different from the tinted 1961s, I also have one 1962 Topps Stamp of Early Wynn, and the other following cards: 1953 Topps: 28,203. 1954 Bowman: 42 1956 Topps: 95 Braves team (gray back), left and no date. 1959 Topps: 417 1961 Fleer: 56 1962 Topps: 384,429. 1963 Topps: 293,314. 1968 Topps: 454 F. Robinson checklist marked. 1974 Topps: 226 Washington variety, team card. Have at them, gang. Bob Bannon gets one of the 1955 Goldens for his type card collection, but found all these cards at the 80% off box at the card shop this weekend. Father Pat Quick access to Windows Live and your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocidB037MSN55C0701A ================= Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:48:53 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Magic Jack Hi All, Went and purchased one of these and it's great! Now I can call all my OBC buddies free. Almost, just $20 a year. I'm not plugging them but it's worth looking into if you want to save on some phone bills and you have a high-speed internet connect. http://www.majicjack.com My MagicJack Number is 702-421-4494 Standby for some calls to finally get to talk to some folks I've never had the chance to before or to meet ever. However, I work nights and most of you probably work days, so it might be a little tough. ================= Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:11:29 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Richard Dingman" Subject: wondering ... As I was going over my dupes, comparing them with a trader's wantlist for the nth time today, and trying to keep my eyes focused on long repeating lines of numbers, I started wondering if there couldn't be some easier way. Considering we put a man on the moon, would it not be possible fairly easily to have a system where all members could log onto a page where all sets and cards were listed so that you could tag the cards you need and also the ones you have for trade, and then any other member could quickly see all the members who had the card available for trade that he wanted. Perhaps it is not so easy for some technical reason I am not aware of, or perhaps it would require too much human supervision or money or whatever. Perhaps someone could explain to me why we can't do this. It would sure save some on my eyes ... Richard "old eyes" Dingman ================= Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:08:18 EDT To: brightair@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] wondering ... wasn't steve rittenberg working on such a project a few years ago? In a message dated 3/30/2009 7:12:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, brightair@msn.com writes: As I was going over my dupes, comparing them with a trader's wantlist for the nth time today, and trying to keep my eyes focused on long repeating lines of numbers, I started wondering if there couldn't be some easier way. Considering we put a man on the moon, would it not be possible fairly easily to have a system where all members could log onto a page where all sets and cards were listed so that you could tag the cards you need and also the ones you have for trade, and then any other member could quickly see all the members who had the card available for trade that he wanted. Perhaps it is not so easy for some technical reason I am not aware of, or perhaps it would require too much human supervision or money or whatever. Perhaps someone could explain to me why we can't do this. It would sure save some on my eyes ... Richard "old eyes" Dingman **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID ================= To: "Geno Wagner" , Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:47:16 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Sugar, Baby !!!!! - - - - - Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune A little late in responding here, but that seems to be always be the case here at my place. I'll go along with Geno's Grateful Dead, but for me, the song is Sugar Magnolia. ----- Original Message ----- From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune OBCers -- After watching Youtube videos for the last hour, I thought it would be fun to see what OBCers listen to! If you had to pick your favorite song, what would it be? Mine is easy - Uncle John's Band by The Grateful Dead! What's yours? Take Care, ================= To: Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:54:56 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune We Just Disagree - Dave Mason Whoah, I haven't seen from or heard that one in a while. ... probably not since my vinyl headed into storage fifteen years ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: smartalecx@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune Thunder Road - Springsteen Go Your Own Way - Fleetwood Mac Bird of Paradise - Aerosmith We Just Disagree - Dave Mason Eight Days a Week - Beatles Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen Born to Run - Springsteen Rainbow - Rolling Stones Gimme Back my Filet O' Fish - McDonald's That would be a good start! A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:01:54 -0400 From: "Gord Ellis" Subject: wrappers I have some wrappers available for trade. Check my OBC wantlist for oferrs.Here's what I have: '51 Topps '61 Fleer '64 Topps Tatoos '65 OPC '68 Fleer World Series '70/'71 Topps Scratch-Off '71 OPC '72 OPC '73 OPC '74 OPC '75 Topps '76 OPC '77 OPC '77 Topps '78 OPC '80 OPC unknown '60's wrapper '54 Bowman no price '54 Bowman 5=A2 '57 Topps (wax tray) '57 Topps 1=A2 '59 Topps 1=A2 '60 Fleer 5=A2 '61 Fleer 5=A2 '64 Phil 5=A2 '79 Topps '80-'83 Topps '84 Fleer '85 Topps '87 Topps '79/'80 Topps '80/'81 Topps '81/'82 Topps '73/'74 OPC (1st & 2nd series) '74/'75 OPC WHA '74/'75 OPC '76/'77 Topps '77/'78 OPC WHA '78/'79 OPC '79/'80 topps '80/'81 Topps newer available too many-just ask ================= Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:03:06 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Walker From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune I saw Dave Mason last year in concert - baggy sweatpants, oversized tee shirt, White Sox hat - and he sounded great. ---- Walker wrote: > We Just Disagree - Dave Mason > Whoah, I haven't seen from or heard that one in a while. ... probably not since my vinyl headed into storage fifteen years ago. > Walker > ----- Original Message ----- > From: smartalecx@aol.com > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 8:44 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Name Your Tune > Thunder Road - Springsteen > Go Your Own Way - Fleetwood Mac > Bird of Paradise - Aerosmith > We Just Disagree - Dave Mason > Eight Days a Week - Beatles > Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen > Born to Run - Springsteen > Rainbow - Rolling Stones > Gimme Back my Filet O' Fish - McDonald's > That would be a good start! > gm > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ================= Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:10:44 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Another set R.I.P. I've either been spending too much on eBay, or I've been lucky (or both), but yesterday I klled my THIRD vintage Football set in 3 weeks. Following onthe heels of the 67 Topps & 74 Topps deaths, yesterday's arrival of Joe Willie Namath ends my 1968 Topps FB quest. Next stop: the two remaining vintage FB sets I have listed - 67 Philly & 62 Topps (in say, the year 2030.) Or does that mean it's time to add another vintage FB set???