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Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:56:45 -0600 (CST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net
Subject: can anyone explain this one?

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<DIV><BR>$17 for six 1950 Bowman beaters?&nbsp; I don't get it--commons to boot.</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&amp;item=130283766886">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&amp;item=130283766886</A></DIV></BODY></html>

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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:06:04 +0000 (UTC)
To: hoot owl1 <hoot_owl1@verizon.net>
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] can anyone explain this one?

UNEXPLAINABLE except the winning bidder has no "common" sense. ;-)
BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ------------------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: "hoot owl1" <hoot_owl1@verizon.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:56:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] can anyone explain this one?

$17 for six 1950 Bowman beaters? I don't get it--commons to boot.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageNameSTRK:MEDWX:IT&item130283766886

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Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:08:12 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: firts winner!

Congrats to Jeff Whitworth!

get those lists updated Jeff!

=================

Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:08:07 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: Comcast sucks!

backup pool is at http://ce.uml.edu/~smcgowan/pool-09.htm
I can't ftp to the comcast server :(

Congrats to kit.  un-freakin-believable play!
Tough one to swallow for the Cardinal fans...

=================

Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 17:12:41 -0800 (PST)
To: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Comcast sucks!

Tough one for me too! An Arizona TD there would have given me the win. AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!

From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 1:08:07 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Comcast sucks!

backup pool is at http://ce.uml. edu/~smcgowan/ pool-09.htm
I can't ftp to the comcast server :(

Congrats to kit.  un-freakin-believab le play!
Tough one to swallow for the Cardinal fans...

=================

Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:08:53 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: 3 down...

Congrats to Bob D.!
one more to go!   yikes!   holding!  The cardinals are killing themselves!

=================

Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:15:06 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: and then there were 4!

Congrats to the steeler fans and football fans in general...
that was fun to watch (in the 4th quarter anyway)!  Oh, yeah,
and congrats to John Scott Gray... remember to email me
what you guys send...  I love watching the numbers pile up.
Go OBC!

=================

Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:00:41 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" <jd3681@yahoo.com>
Subject: bi-annual membership

for some reason I was not able to respond to this anywhere but here but
I wish to remain in this wonderful group.

sorry for filling up the inbox.

be well

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:09:06 -0500
From: Joe Isaac <jwi62@hotmail.com>
Subject: Auction for Soldiers - payment reminder

This is a friendly reminder to those who donated and won cards from the auction.
 There is no need to email me unless you have any questions.

Winners, there are still some outstanding payments that need to be made.  Please
send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer.    Checks and Money Orders
should be made payable to Bob Donaldson and send the checks directly to Bob.
If you pay by Paypal, send to treasurer@oldbaseball.comDonors, please send
the items to the winning bidders.  The addresses can be found on the OBC
directory page.The complete list of winners and donors can be found at www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.htmlJoe
Windows Live=99: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect.
http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_012009
=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:12:26 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Subject: OBCAC Nominations Now OPEN through February 14, 2009

It's time again to nominate fellow OBC members to the positions of OBCAC Facilitator
and OBCAC Member.  Here are a few of the rules that will apply:

Election Commissioner - One OBC member will be appointed by the
OBCAC Facilitator as "Election Commissioner" (Commissioner). That
person will keep track of nominations, balloting and announcing the
results of OBC elections. Nominations - Each year from February 1 thru February
the Commissioner will accept nominations to be a candidate in
simultaneous elections for (a) "OBC AC Facilitator" and (b) "OBC AC
member". A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both
positions. Self nominations are not allowed. It is the Commissioner's responsibility
to obtain AC
nominee's acceptance of nomination prior to Feb 15. If nomination is
not accepted by Feb 15, the nominee will not appear on the ballot. Candidate
qualifications - Anyone who has been in OBC for at
least three years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. Acceptance
of nomination - All nominations must be approved of by the nominee.
Election - From February 15 through the end of the month, it
is the responsibilty for each member of OBC to send in a ballot to the
Commissioner listing their choices for seven voting members and one
non-voting Facilitator. Inactive members are allowed to vote. The
Commissioner will keep track of all ballots. OBCAC Voting Member Election -The
seven candidates with the
highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will
serve as OBC AC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest
total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a
vacancy in the OBCAC. OBCAC Facilitator Election - The member with the highest
number of votes in the election for OBC AC Facilitator will serve as
OBC AC Facilitator. Election results - The Commissioner shall release the voting
results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1.
Actual vote totals shall be available privately for 30 days after the
When you begin the process of nominating someone, please ask that OBC member
BEFORE you nominate them, and if both of you will reply that information to
me by e-mail, I'll forward it on to Joe Isaac as well.  Thanks to all ofyou
who have served us on the OBCAC in 2008-09, and thanks to all of you who
will volunteer your efforts for 2009-10.  Good luck to the candidates!

Yours in card collecting,

Father Pat Wattigny
Election Commissioner

Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE=85more than just e-mail.
http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009
=================

Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:13:32 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: the SB hits are rolling out!

Check the early returns at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-09.htm
Go OBC!

=================

To: <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:37:46 -0800
From: "KIT OKAMURO" <biglittledogs@msn.com>
Subject: sports illustrated

a friend of mine has 51 of the 52 issues for the year 1958. he wants me to sell
them on ebay. it will take forever to scan them and list them all. is anyone
interested in them? he also has large nimbers of most years from 55 to
plmk, kit okamuro

=================

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:35:29 EST
To: tifflynn_501@hotmail.com, mkohn1@gmail.com, jeremy.halpern@comast.net,
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Manny and Boras---yuck

Actual note I sent out today to the Dodger front office this morning out of
frustration with my government and my local team...

Dear Frank and Ned,
Well, Manny and his scumbag of an agent turned you down again. How many
times are you going to ask them to dance before you get the picture. He's just
not that into you!

I have a simple suggestion. Take half the 25 million dollars you just tried
to give him and send it to the California state education fund. This would
help  to fund education in California for the next two years. It would also
generate  great public support for the Dodgers and create a whole new generation of
Dodger  fans. Heck, I bet the Governor would even name a school or two after
you  guys. Ned Colletti Middle School, Frank McCourt High, Dodgers Elementary!
Sounds fantastic to me!

By now, you are thinking, this is great...why not send the whole 25  million.
I say we still need pitching (I am still a baseball fan at heart)...so
celebrate your new venture by going out and getting another quality starting
pitcher. I bet one can be had for 12.5 million, easy.

Heck, Make this happen and I will buy my season tickets tomorrow.

Joshua Levine
4th grade teacher
Castaic Elementary School (soon to be Dodgers Elementary)

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=================

Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:54:49 -0800 (PST)
To: Wite3@aol.com
From: John Dahms <jd3681@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Manny and Boras---yuck

Joshua and all,

I can sympathize with you on this but for an entirely different reason.....I
had to either sit thru the NBC pregame and halftime show stomaching the franchise
destroyer Matt Millen look like he knows all about football, or try
and catch a movie.....what a disgusting thing for us detroit lions fans to
have coming at us is that JERK........

I know it isn't baseball but hey, the worst run in NFL history came under this
guy and NBC wants to parade him around like he is the man....give me a break..

lifelong lions fan....for better or worse.

--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Wite3@aol.com <Wite3@aol.com> wrote:

From: Wite3@aol.com <Wite3@aol.com>
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Manny and Boras---yuck
To: tifflynn_501@hotmail.com, mkohn1@gmail.com, jeremy.halpern@comast.net, m_rishe@yahoo.com
Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 1:35 PM

Actual note I sent out today to the Dodger front office this morning out offrustration
with my government and my local team...

Dear Frank and Ned,
Well, Manny and his scumbag of an agent turned you down again. How many times
are you going to ask them to dance before you get the picture. He's justnot
that into you!

I have a simple suggestion. Take half the 25 million dollars you just triedto
give him and send it to the California state education fund. This wouldhelp
to fund education in California for the next two years. It would alsogenerate
great public support for the Dodgers and create a whole new generation
of Dodger fans. Heck, I bet the Governor would even name a school or twoafter
you guys. Ned Colletti Middle School, Frank McCourt High, Dodgers
Elementary! Soundsfantastic to me!

By now, you are thinking, this is great...why not send the whole 25 million.
I say we still need pitching (I am still a baseball fan at heart)...so celebrate
your new venture by going out and getting another quality starting pitcher.
I bet one can be had for 12.5 million, easy.

Heck, Make this happen and I will buy my season tickets tomorrow.

Joshua Levine
4th grade teacher
Castaic Elementary School (soon to be Dodgers Elementary)

Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499.

=================

Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:19:26 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" <mikesportsfan@aol.com>
Subject: Cards finally mailed

I have had trouble getting to the PO recently.  I finally got there
today to mail out, the auction winnings, Super Bowl winnings and
paybacks to a few that have been expecting them (that includes you Bob
Reed).  Sorry for the delay in shipment.
Mike Rich

=================

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:29:43 EST
To: m_rishe@yahoo.com, tifflynn_501@hotmail.com, mkohn1@gmail.com,
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: Manny and Boras---yuck

That is a good idea...maybe I will...

In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:25:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
m_rishe@yahoo.com writes:

You should send your note to the L.A.  Times.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wite3@aol.com  [mailto:Wite3@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:35  AM
To: tifflynn_501@hotmail.com; mkohn1@gmail.com;  jeremy.halpern@comast.net;
Cc:  OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Manny and  Boras---yuck

Actual note I sent out today to the Dodger front office this morning out  of
frustration with my government and my local team...

Dear Frank and Ned,
Well, Manny and his scumbag of an agent turned you down again. How many
times are you going to ask them to dance before you get the picture. He's just
not that into you!

I have a simple suggestion. Take half the 25 million dollars you just  tried
to give him and send it to the California state education fund. This  would
help to fund education in California for the next two years. It would  also
generate great public support for the Dodgers and create a whole new  generation
of Dodger fans. Heck, I bet the Governor would even name a school  or two after
you guys. Ned Colletti Middle School, Frank McCourt High,  Dodgers
Elementary! Sounds fantastic to me!

By now, you are thinking, this is great...why not send the whole 25  million.
I say we still need pitching (I am still a baseball fan at  heart)...so
celebrate your new venture by going out and getting another  quality starting
pitcher. I bet one can be had for 12.5 million, easy.

Heck, Make this happen and I will buy my season tickets tomorrow.

Joshua Levine
4th grade teacher
Castaic Elementary School (soon to be Dodgers Elementary)

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=================

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:51:53 EST
To: Wite3@aol.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Manny and Boras---yuck

send us a copy of they print it, especially the word scumbag

In a message dated 2/4/2009 11:33:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,
Wite3@aol.com writes:

That is a good idea...maybe I will...

In a message dated 2/4/2009 8:25:45 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
m_rishe@yahoo.In a messag

You should send your note to the L.A.  Times.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wite3@aol.com  [mailto:Wite3@ Wite3@ao
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009  10:35 AM
To: tifflynn_501@ tifflynn_501@<WBR>hotmail tifflynn_501@<WBR>hotmail
tifflynn_501@<WBR>hotmail ti
Cc:  OBC-Ramblings@  OBC-R
Subject: Manny and  Boras---yuck

Actual note I sent out today to the Dodger front office this morning  out of
frustration with my government and my local team...

Dear Frank and Ned,
Well, Manny and his scumbag of an agent turned you down again. How many
times are you going to ask them to dance before you get the picture. He's  just
not that into you!

I have a simple suggestion. Take half the 25 million dollars you just  tried
to give him and send it to the California state education fund. This  would
help to fund education in California for the next two years. It would  also
generate great public support for the Dodgers and create a whole new  generation
of Dodger fans. Heck, I bet the Governor would even name a school  or two after
you guys. Ned Colletti Middle School, Frank McCourt High,  Dodgers
Elementary! Sounds fantastic to me!

By now, you are thinking, this is great...why not send the whole 25  million.
I say we still need pitching (I am still a baseball fan at  heart)...so
celebrate your new venture by going out and getting another  quality starting
pitcher. I bet one can be had for 12.5 million, easy.

Heck, Make this happen and I will buy my season tickets tomorrow.

Joshua Levine
4th grade teacher
Castaic Elementary School (soon to be Dodgers Elementary)

_Great  Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499._
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;211

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=================

Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:22:25 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "distelrath66" <ryandistelrath@gmail.com>
Subject: Dealer SCUM alert!

hello OBCers!

I am the dealer skum of the week for listing these cards on eBay.  I
have put these, and am soon about to put others, online in order to
pay for a prescription of antibiotics that my insurance would not
cover.  $30 a pill, can you believe that?  Anyhow, by selling these
cards, I can repay the loan that was given to me to buy the medicine.
For you FOOT fans, there is a great card of Oscar Stanage, who still
holds records to this day for the Tigers.  All of the cards that I am
listening are T206's.  Some are in very decent shape, while others are
in the Tiptonesque shape that we all know and love.  Thank you very
much for looking.  Here is the link to my auctions:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/ryan37043

sorry for being the dealer scum of the week

Ryan Distelrath

=================

Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:08:37 -0600
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Ryan Distelrath <ryandistelrath@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dealer SCUM alert!

I just added another card to my eBay list that those of you fellow FOOT
members may be interested in.  It is the T206 of "Wild Bill" Donovan.  He
still holds a record for the Tigers after all of these years.  here is a
short write-up about it.

In 1907, the team won the American League pennant behind Donovan's
league-leading winning percentage of .862, in which he went 25-4, a mark
that remains the highest single-season winning percentage in Tigers history.

For the FOOT members, I am going to list both of the auctions of Tigers
players that still hold records  for the Tigers to this day.  Here they are:

Oscar Stanage
http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Oscar-Stanage-Piedmont-Back-Detroit-Tigers_W0QQitemZ270339205325QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hashitem270339205325=

"Wild Bill" Donovan
http://cgi.ebay.com/T206-Wild-Bill-Donovan-Piedmont-Back-Detroit-Tigers_W0QQitemZ270340065546QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hashitem27034006=

I apologize again for being the dealer scum of the week, but it is very
important that I pay this man back.  Thank you for your consideration.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:22 PM, distelrath66 <ryandistelrath@gmail.com>wrote:

>    hello OBCers!
> I am the dealer skum of the week for listing these cards on eBay. I
> have put these, and am soon about to put others, online in order to
> pay for a prescription of antibiotics that my insurance would not
> cover. $30 a pill, can you believe that? Anyhow, by selling these
> cards, I can repay the loan that was given to me to buy the medicine.
> For you FOOT fans, there is a great card of Oscar Stanage, who still
> holds records to this day for the Tigers. All of the cards that I am
> listening are T206's. Some are in very decent shape, while others are
> in the Tiptonesque shape that we all know and love. Thank you very
> much for looking. Here is the link to my auctions:
> http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/ryan37043
> sorry for being the dealer scum of the week
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Distelrath

=================

Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:05:20 -0500
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Robert Neill <rdn56@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Durham Bulls Stadium seats

I don't know if there is any interest out there in OBC land, but they
just announced that they are auctioning off seats from the old Durham
Bulls Baseball Park. Yes, the one they filmed Bull Durham in. The
park is still there (although the 'Bulls play in a newer, Camden
Yards-like stadium a few blocks away).  They aren't tearing down the
park, fortunately, but they are refurbishing it.  Here's the article
and a link to the auction  http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/4467536/

I have signed up for an auction number and am thinking of bidding on
a block of seats. I think they'd be neat out on the deck, but my wife
isn't too sure about the idea. I have no idea what they will go for.
With an opening bid of $1 for 10 rows of 4 seats (40 seats), I figure
I can't go wrong.  Since  I only live 25 miles from the stadium, (
and was fortunate enough to have gone to many games there), picking
them up won't be too much of a problem (other than finding a truck or
two to cart them in).  If anyone is interested in bidding on some,
and need someone here to pick them up (I have no idea how they'd get
shipped--obviously picking them up in person would be simplest,
although I'm sure there are trucking companies that would ship them
for a fee), I'd be more than willing to help.  I don't think I'd want
a block of 40 seats (my wife's tolerance only goes so far), so the
idea of splitting a lot amongst several OBCers is also a possibility.

Then again, I may be the only one crazy enough to think that owning a
few of these would be neat.

Let me know.

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:13:12 -0500
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Retaliation Thanks

Thanks out to John Stamper for a 1911 Obak in perfect OBC condition.

Aaron sends out a box of Phillies from the auction...great selection, great cards. Thanks Aaron.

TJ hits me with a '57 Curt Simmons...love the '57s. Thanks TJ.

Kevin Martens hits me with a '53 Bobo...love Bobos....thanks Kevin

Rick L. sends along two oddball Phils...both needed and both welcomed. Thanks Rick.

Thanks to all....OBC is the best.

=================

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:18:14 GMT
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob Saxton" <judgeguy@juno.com>
Subject: football price guide & Rizzuto book

Two books up for grabs to good OBC homes:
2005-2006 Beckett Football price guide 22nd edition. This is the big book, not
the pocket size.
O Holy Cow! The Selected Verse of Phil Rizzuto.
Both books are in great shape, clean tight pages and good covers.
keep a smile on!

Have a seat. Click now and choose from a huge selection of quality bar stools.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3OjhDO5OHIQdxRJTaPh4ydr19YYV4l4XybDpueWnqivFCBO/

=================

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:37:14 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
From: Dan Angland <duph182@yahoo.com>
Subject: Memorabilia available

hey folks, I just moved and un-earthed a bunch of sports memorabilia that I'm
looking to give away. New guys, don't be shy I am looking for nothingin

I just want it to go to a good home before it goes to good will.
Let me know if you have any interest and or what you collect and I'll send you
a list.

Thanks, Dan Angland
Have an OBC weekend!

=================

Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:49:38 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Linda" <jazzgirl1920s@aol.com>
Subject: 2 clips on youtube of me singing on Vaudeville Madness TV show

Ok you guys know I like the old tobacco cards with the actors and
actresses and old movies and the days of the vaudeville performers from
the 1920's. I thought you might like to see me singing on a TV show.
Here are 2 links to me singing on the Vaudeville Madness TV show. One
is me doing a Blues-Ragtime song from WWI period called Alcoholic Blues
and the other is a tune recorded by Ruth Etting called Cooking
Breakfast For The One I Love. I hope you enjoy them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?vgwgcjkBlQQI&featurechannel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v8kTHXR8FeCU&featurechannel_page

Don't expect the greatest quality of the video because it was made with
a video camera taping off a TV screen playing a VHS video tape of the
TV show. What I eventually need is a program to convert analog VHS
video tapes directly to DVD then I can upload to youtube directly from
the DVD and not use a video camera to tape off a TV screen. But I have
seen a lot of very non professional videos on youtube made exactly the
same way so I guess mine is ok.

=================

Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:44:52 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: "winnings" piling up!

Nice work so far on the superbowl pool... I know there are lots
more hits to come (like mine, for example!)... remember to send
me an email so I can add the #'s to the total.
See the growing numbers at:
http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-09.htm
Go OBC!

=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:14:33 -0500
From: "Bill Malson" <malsman250@neo.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Bengal Belters ???

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Malson
To: digdugdig@webtv.net
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Bengal Belters ???

Thanks out to CAP SINCLAIR for a 67T of Bengal Belters Cash and Kaline.

Maybe FOOT members can correct me but I seem to recall Jim Northrup
being pretty "handy" when the bags were full about this time.

Maybe this card should have been a trio of players!!

Anywho....thanks Cap...nice memories!!!

that's OBC....nuff said!!!

I sure do remember Northrup hitting grand-slams - in fact, I was in Cleveland
the night he hit two off of the Tribe. At the time, I did not seem to appreciate
the historical nature of the event....

Bill Malson
=================

To: "obc" <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:14:15 -0600
From: "ken goetsch" <kshoes@charter.net>
Subject: 1969 TOPPS VINTAGE FOOTBALL INSERT SETS-STARTED

I have just listed  the 1969 Topps 4 in1 mini albums sets......I would liketo
get a set of "clean" albums[no glue-or cards],
and 1 WITH glue or cards inside..........

Here are my needs
1969 Topps Mini Albumns-No cards glued inside-Bears,Vikings,Eagles,

1969 Topps Mini Albumns-cards glued inside-Falcons,Colts,Browns,Cowboys,Packers,Saints,Steelers

I still have a big bunch of 1969 Football 4-in 1's mini cards that are separated..............point
me to your wants..and I will be glad to check and send

Ken Goetsch
16 Parkview Lane
Watertown, Wi.  53094

=================

Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 10:47:59 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan <seanobc@comcast.net>
Subject: sick and bored

With very limited concentration, sitting here on day 3 of the
antibiotics, I added up
all the hits from the OBC superbowl pools, and, with the ones I just added
in from
this week, we (OBC) went over the 3,000 mark!  I added the "all-time
totoal" line to
the web page.  Go OBC!
Go Perscription drugs!

http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-09.htm

=================

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:50:03 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
From: Dan Angland <duph182@yahoo.com>
Subject: Availables

Hi Guys,
Just send mailing address, let me know if need or want any of the below.
Thanks, Dan

1962 Topps Baseball44
1974 Topps Baseball 82,134,277,289,354,374,377,626,627
1974 Topps Baseball Traded 270T
1975 Food Issue (hostess or twinkies?) Sal Bando # 4
1976 Topps Baseball 324
1977 Topps Baseball 629, 658
1979 Topps Baseball 50, 154
1980 Topps Baseball

1974 Topps Football 15,43,45,57,201,312,364,528 Giants checklist
1980 Topps Football 3,50,319,325

Basketball 1969-70 # 12 John Trapp

Non -Sports

1978 Jaws 2

1975 Planet of the Apes 49,52

1977 Star Wars Blue 9,35,37
1977 Star Wars Red 70,86,106
1980 Empire Strikes Back Blue 150,151,201

1978 Sgt. Peppers 23,52

=================

To: <Tradingbases@yahoogroups.com>,
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:08:04 -0500
From: "Mark Holland" <wholla_m@bellsouth.net>
Subject: non sports for trade

I have a few thousand non sports cards that are taking up room.  If someonewants
all of them, I will swap for enough to cover postage.  I don't collect
non sports at all so everything goes.  Email with any questions.

Mark Holland
UV Wantlist   http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep16&ext1&groupid106917&ck
"PLEASE DON'T PROPOSE BV TRADES"
=================

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:22:30 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: New Email

Hello all I am in the process of changing my email, i changed it on the
server now i want to send and receive emails under my new email....can anyone
help me out?
My new Email is

_rpg7292@optonline.net_ (mailto:rpg7292@optonline.net)

**************Who's never won?  Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on
AOL Music.
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=================

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 11:38:59 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Jerry Coker <obcbeatle@yahoo.com>
Subject: non baseball card question

Sorry for posting here but I seem to remember we have at least one educator in our group that teaches secondary or post secondary history, but I've forgotten who.  If so, could you kindly contact me off list (obcbeatle@yahoo.com)?  Sorry for the intrusion.  Thank you.

Jerry Coker

=================

To: <Tradingbases@yahoogroups.com>,
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 15:43:55 -0500
From: "Mark Holland" <wholla_m@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: non sports for trade

the non sports have been claimed.  What a response, I had no idea so many of
us collect non sports issues.
take care!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Holland
To: Tradingbases@yahoogroups.com ; VCT ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: non sports for trade

I have a few thousand non sports cards that are taking up room.  If someone
wants all of them, I will swap for enough to cover postage.  I don't collect
non sports at all so everything goes.  Email with any questions.

Mark Holland
UV Wantlist   http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep16&ext1&groupid106917&ck
"PLEASE DON'T PROPOSE BV TRADES"
=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:41:02 -0500
From: "Ed Schott" <easchott@comcast.net>
Subject: 65-9Q

heres the latest 9
thanks for all the help so far
=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:51:42 -0500
From: "Ed Schott" <easchott@comcast.net>
Subject: oops

try this
=================

To: <hoot_owl1@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:50:13 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" <vrechek@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: question about kelloggs and post cards

To: Peter Mead, et al

I'm just back from vacation and read Peter's info on Post Cereal cards.
Thanks much for sharing this info with the group. I haven't fully digested
it yet but it looks like it will be an endless task to complete my sets -
which is OK.

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:32:42 EST
To: DaPatriot1@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] New Email

Is your AIM changing?
In a message dated 2/8/09 12:22:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DaPatriot1@aol.com writes:

> Hello all I am in the process of changing my email, i changed it on the
> server now i want to send and receive emails under my new email....can anyone
> help me out?
> My new Email is
> rpg7292@optonline.net

Who's never won?  Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time
> on AOL Music.
> (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000003)

=================

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 06:50:37 -0800
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: MIKE DIAMANTI <diamanti@wildblue.net>
Subject: Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Well Gals and Guys:
Had a major brainstorm over the weekend that I want to get feedback on.
A few months ago an OBCer said that he had experience conducting Civil War
battlefield tours. (Bama?) Boy, would I ever like to do that when I can
travel south.
And I've seen many calls for help about computers and other topics.
I soon realized that all OBCers have Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and
Services (for free or for cash) that most are likely to share or offer to
Soooo, how about a page on the OBC website, member only access by password,
for a member listing of Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and Services.
Reason I brought this up, specifically to me, is that I recently intensified
my hospitality industry connection, by accepting a part-time job with a
friend to manage his Victorian Inn, here in Coupeville.  And I know many
OBCers like to travel, but I didn't want to shill for my hotel via OBC just
as an advertisement.  But I do want OBCers to come and visit, and you might
just stay at the Inn at Penn Cove.
Over the weekend I sent an e-mail to Geno asking him to run this idea by the
OBCAC and he is going to do that.  In the meantime, let me know via my
e-mail or OBC Ramblings what you think.  As an example, Grant collects
Canadian cardboard (Hobbies), has a capacity for self-mutilation
(Interests), has experience as a Vancouver policeman (Experience), and has a
job tracking down missing laptops via LOJACK (stolen laptop software) which
equals (Services).  Grant has other HIES, but I will let him reveal the more
personal ones...
That's it for now,
Your CoffeeGuy in Coupeville who also lets out rooms...Diowmontey

=================

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 17:45:32 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: Email; problems

Hello all,
yesterday i sent out an email with a new email address and I started
getting my emails via my new email account, then today i look and all my emails
came back to this one how do i fix this? any help?
**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy
Awards.  AOL Music takes you there.
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=================

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:27:39 +0000 (UTC)
To: MIKE DIAMANTI <diamanti@wildblue.net>
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Since we will be discussing this topic this month with the OBCAC then it would
be helpful to hear all those who have opinions on this idea here on ramblings
- Share your thoughts please. BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE DIAMANTI" <diamanti@wildblue.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 9:50:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Well Gals and Guys:
Had a major brainstorm over the weekend that I want to get feedback on.
A few months ago an OBCer said that he had experience conducting Civil War battlefield
tours. (Bama?) Boy, would I ever like to do that when I can travel
And I've seen many calls for help about computers and other topics.
I soon realized that all OBCers have Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and Services
(for free or for cash) that most are likely to share or offer to others.
Soooo, how about a page on the OBC website, member only access by password,for
a member listing of Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and Services.
Reason I brought this up, specifically to me, is that I recently intensified
my hospitality industry connection, by accepting a part-time job with a friend
to manage his Victorian Inn, here in Coupeville. And I know many
OBCers like to travel, but I didn't want to shill for my hotel via OBC just
as an advertisement. But I do want OBCers to come and visit, and you
might just stay at the Inn at Penn Cove.
Over the weekend I sent an e-mail to Geno asking him to run this idea by the
OBCAC and he is going to do that. In the meantime, let me know via my
e-mail or OBC Ramblings what you think. As an example, Grant collects
Canadian cardboard (Hobbies), has a capacity for self-mutilation (Interests),
has experience as a Vancouver policeman (Experience), and has a job tracking
down missing laptops via LOJACK (stolen laptop software) which equals
(Services). Grant has other HIES, but I will let him reveal the more
personal ones...
That's it for now,
Your CoffeeGuy in Coupeville who also lets out rooms...Diowmontey

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:01:16 -0500
From: trufan999@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

I've seen many a requests for information on different topics and for the most part, I think most answers have arrived through asking for a shout out on the Ramblings server. Although I like the idea, such as this to grow the OBC networking for more personal forums, Ramblings server to me has been about fantastic stories concerning sports, the hobby, or how a card came into someones home. I hope that the OBCAC considers this idea strongly as the time goes by, there will be more requests as the times are ever changing.

John Leroux

-----Original Message-----
From: talbot1@comcast.net
To: MIKE DIAMANTI <diamanti@wildblue.net>
Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Since we will be discussing this topic this month with the OBCAC then it would be helpful to hear all those who have opinions on this idea here on ramblings - Share your thoughts please.? BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE DIAMANTI" <diamanti@wildblue.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 9:50:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Well Gals and Guys:
Had a major brainstorm over the weekend that I want to get feedback on.
A few months ago an OBCer said that he had experience conducting Civil War battlefield tours. (Bama?) Boy, would I ever like to do that when I can travel south.
And I've seen many calls for help about computers and other topics.
I soon realized that all OBCers have Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and Services (for free or for cash) that most are likely to share or offer to others.
Soooo, how about a page on the OBC website, member only access by password, for a member listing of Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and Services.
Reason I brought this up, specifically to me, is that I recently intensified my hospitality industry connection, by accepting a part-time job with a friend to manage his Victorian Inn, here in Coupeville.? And I know many OBCers like to travel, but I didn't want to shill for my hotel via OBC just as an advertisement.? But I do want OBCers to come and visit, and you might just stay at the Inn at Penn Cove.
Over the weekend I sent an e-mail to Geno asking him to run this idea by the OBCAC and he is going to do that.? In the meantime, let me know via my e-mail or OBC Ramblings what you think.? As an example, Grant collects Canadian cardboard (Hobbies), has a capacity for self-mutilation (Interests), has experience as a Vancouver policeman (Experience), and has a job tracking down missing laptops via LOJACK (stolen laptop software) which equals (Services).? Grant has other HIES, but I will let him reveal the more personal ones...
That's it for now,
Your CoffeeGuy in Coupeville who also lets out rooms...Diowmontey

=================

To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:22:33 -0500
From: typecard@aol.com
Subject: does anyone have one of these

1943 MP&Co of Tommy Henrich showing a position in the caption line at the top of the back of the card?

1943 MP&Co of anyone besides Tommy Henrich with no position in the caption line at the top of the back of the card?

I'm just looking for confirmation that these cards may exist, and would welcome scans if possible.

=================

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 21:48:34 EST
To: Trufan999@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

perhaps we could add forums to our yahoo groups.  i am not sure of the
technical aspects, but i understand it is pretty easy to do.

i would be in favor of keeping our main servers (ramblings,  wantlists,
thanks) for card collecting if possible

In a message dated 2/9/2009 8:01:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,  trufan999@ao
l.com writes:

I've seen many a requests for information on different topics and for the
most part, I think most answers have arrived through asking for a shout out on
the Ramblings server. Although I like the idea, such as this to grow the OBC
networking for more personal forums, Ramblings server to me has been about
fantastic stories concerning sports, the hobby, or how a card came into
someones home. I hope that the OBCAC considers this idea strongly as the time  goes
by, there will be more requests as the times are ever changing.

John Leroux

-----Original Message-----
From:  talbot1@comcast.Fro
To: MIKE DIAMANTI  <diamanti@wildblue.dia>
Cc:  OBC-Ramblings@Cc:  OBC-Cc:
Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 7:27  pm
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services  (HIES)

Since we will be discussing this topic this month with the OBCAC then it
would be helpful to hear all those who have opinions on this idea here on
ramblings - Share your thoughts please.  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ------------REGARDS -REGARDS ----

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE DIAMANTI"  <diamanti@wildblue.dia>
To:  OBC-Ramblings@To:  OBC-To:
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009  9:50:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies  Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Well Gals and Guys:
Had a major brainstorm over the weekend that I  want to get feedback on.
A few months ago an OBCer said that he had  experience conducting Civil War
battlefield tours. (Bama?) Boy, would I ever  like to do that when I can travel
And I've seen many calls for help  about computers and other topics.
I soon realized that all OBCers have  Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and
Services (for free or for cash) that most  are likely to share or offer to others.
Soooo, how about a page on the OBC  website, member only access by password,
for a member listing of Hobbies,  Interests, Experience, and Services.
Reason I brought this up, specifically  to me, is that I recently intensified
my hospitality industry connection, by  accepting a part-time job with a
friend to manage his Victorian Inn, here in  Coupeville.  And I know many OBCers
like to travel, but I didn't want to  shill for my hotel via OBC just as an
advertisement.  But I do want  OBCers to come and visit, and you might just stay
at the Inn at Penn  Cove.
Over the weekend I sent an e-mail to Geno asking him to run this idea  by the
OBCAC and he is going to do that.  In the meantime, let me know  via my
e-mail or OBC Ramblings what you think.  As an example, Grant  collects Canadian
cardboard (Hobbies), has a capacity for self-mutilation  (Interests), has
experience as a Vancouver policeman (Experience) As an example, Grant  collects
Canadian cardboard (Hobbies), has a capacity for self-mutilation  (Interests
Grant has other HIES, but I will let him reveal  the more personal ones...
That's it for now,
Your CoffeeGuy in  Coupeville who also lets out rooms...Diowmontey

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See  yours in just 2 easy steps!_
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=================

Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:41:13 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "b_betza" <b_betza@yahoo.com>
Subject: Need 1974 and 1975 Topps FB info--and a volunteer with time!

OK odd request here--- I want to add all cards from these sets that
are "action" shots.  The football card gallery website was OK up until
about card #219 when the gaps of unimaged cards got a little bigger....

So anyone interested in thumbing thru their '74 Football set from card
#220 up and their 1975 Football set to help me get a list???  Any card
of live football action or sideline shots work-- just don't want the
posed shots---

Brian Betza

=================

To: <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 20:08:05 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" <familytoad@comcast.net>
Subject: trade reference

OBC World, have any of you traded with Steve Sadler from Mass.?

He seems like a good chap, but before I send out cards, I thought it would be
worthy of checking his reference within this fine group.

Thanks for any advice.

OBC Forever
=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:44:37 -0500
From: "Ed Schott" <easchott@comcast.net>
Subject: whosit ?

anybody know a
William Lane from Dallas ?
=================

To: <Trufan999@aol.com>,
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:22:54 -0500
From: "Chuck Paris" <chuckparis@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

I like the work, hobbies and interests idea alot.  Mainly for informationalpurposes.
I don't think there is any need to facilitate communication though......
just having the info and an email address should be plenty.

Don't know how many know that I'm a CPA.... anybody need there taxes done?

----- Original Message -----
From: smartalecx@aol.com
To: Trufan999@aol.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

perhaps we could add forums to our yahoo groups.  i am not sure of the technical
aspects, but i understand it is pretty easy to do.

i would be in favor of keeping our main servers (ramblings, wantlists, thanks)
for card collecting if possible

In a message dated 2/9/2009 8:01:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, trufan999@aol.com
I've seen many a requests for information on different topics and for the
most part, I think most answers have arrived through asking for a shout out
on the Ramblings server. Although I like the idea, such as this to growthe
OBC networking for more personal forums, Ramblings server to me has been
about fantastic stories concerning sports, the hobby, or how a card cameinto
someones home. I hope that the OBCAC considers this idea strongly as the
time goes by, there will be more requests as the times are ever changing.

John Leroux

-----Original Message-----
From: talbot1@comcast.net
To: MIKE DIAMANTI <diamanti@wildblue.net>
Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Since we will be discussing this topic this month with the OBCAC then it
would be helpful to hear all those who have opinions on this idea here onramblings
- Share your thoughts please.  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: "MIKE DIAMANTI" <diamanti@wildblue.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 9:50:37 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

Well Gals and Guys:
Had a major brainstorm over the weekend that I want to get feedback on.
A few months ago an OBCer said that he had experience conducting Civil War
battlefield tours. (Bama?) Boy, would I ever like to do that when I cantravel
And I've seen many calls for help about computers and other topics.
I soon realized that all OBCers have Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and
Services (for free or for cash) that most are likely to share or offer toothers.
Soooo, how about a page on the OBC website, member only access by password,
for a member listing of Hobbies, Interests, Experience, and Services.
Reason I brought this up, specifically to me, is that I recently intensified
my hospitality industry connection, by accepting a part-time job witha
friend to manage his Victorian Inn, here in Coupeville.  And I know manyOBCers
like to travel, but I didn't want to shill for my hotel via OBC just
as an advertisement.  But I do want OBCers to come and visit, and you might
just stay at the Inn at Penn Cove.
Over the weekend I sent an e-mail to Geno asking him to run this idea by
the OBCAC and he is going to do that.  In the meantime, let me know via my
e-mail or OBC Ramblings what you think.  As an example, Grant collects Canadian
cardboard (Hobbies), has a capacity for self-mutilation (Interests),has
experience as a Vancouver policeman (Experience), and has a job tracking
down missing laptops via LOJACK (stolen laptop software) which equals (Services).
Grant has other HIES, but I will let him reveal the more personal
That's it for now,
Your CoffeeGuy in Coupeville who also lets out rooms...Diowmontey

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:32:05 EST
To: chuckparis@comcast.net, Trufan999@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: friar4@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hobbies Interests Experience Services (HIES)

I think this is one of the best ideas I have heard in a long time. I would
love to see this happen!

Bob  Corvello
42 Winston Drive
Washington Depot, Ct. 06794
860  868-2939
Friar4@aol.com RobertCorvello@yahoo.com
_http://friar4.i8.com/_ (http://friar4.i8.com/)
Member: OBC, VCT,  DT

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy
Awards.  AOL Music takes you there.
(http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002)

=================

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:44:40 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: Glenn's Sports Library

Hey Guys,

Today, I had the time to finally get round to one of those jobs that I've meant to do for years - cataloging my modest collection of sports related books. I've attached my work on the off chance that some of you might be interested in having a look (its in Excel 2007 format). If you'd like some feedback on any of the books listed, feel free to drop me a line.

If you ever plan on visiting Chez Codere at some point in the future, you can pre-plan your reading requirements!

Glasgow, Scotland

=================

To: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>, OBC Ramblings server OBC Ramblings
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:01:36 -0500
From: Aaron Shirley <uthminsta@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Glenn's Sports Library

I have wanted to do this for a while too.  I think I'm finally gonna get onit...

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: glenncodere@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:44:40 -0800
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Glenn's Sports Library

Hey Guys,

Today, I had the time to finally get round to one of those jobs that I've meant
to do for years - cataloging my modest collection of sports related books.
I've attached my work on the off chance that some of you might be interested
in having a look (its in Excel 2007 format). If you'd like some feedback
on any of the books listed, feel free to drop me a line.

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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:38:55 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jimbo777777" <jimbo7777777@earthlink.net>
Subject: Strat-o-Matic

howdy folks,

I know a few of you out there play strat-o-matic.  Those of you who do
are cordially invited to participate in the tournament to end all
tournaments.  I set this up on Yahoo last week as kind of a whim, just
so I would always have a game scheduled, and a place to write about it
if I wanted - and it's absolutely caught fire - I have 24 folks playing

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/ultimatetournament/

=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:00:49 -0500
From: "Ed Schott" <easchott@comcast.net>
Subject: 9 more

just wanted to share
=================

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:23:33 -0800 (PST)
To: Ed Schott <easchott@comcast.net>
From: John Stamper <john@holidayandhobbies.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 9 more

Pretty Cool, Ed! I like the ck list where marking the box was not enough,
they put a line next to it as well.

John Stamper

--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Ed Schott <easchott@comcast.net> wrote:

From: Ed Schott <easchott@comcast.net>
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 9 more
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 5:00 PM

just wanted to share

=================

To: <mikesportsfan@aol.com>, <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:09:03 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCAC Nominations Now OPEN through February 14,

Mike, and all,
As of today, Friday, February 13, I have received the following nominations:

Wagner, Wubben.

OBCAC Facilitator:

I have received invitations for the following, but have not seen any responses
from them indicating their acceptance of nomination:
Hattox, Knowles, Moleta, Silva, Talbot, McGowan, Neill.

So gents, if you want to be a nominee for this year's OBC board, please indicate
that to me so I can properly list an e-mail ballot by tomorrow night at

Best to you all,

Father Pat Wattigny
Election Commissioner
From: Mikesportsfan@aol.com
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:49:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCAC Nominations Now OPEN through February 14,
To: seventytwop@hotmail.com

Please tell me the number of nominations we currently have for the positions.

Mike Rich

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To: <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 14:09:50 -0500
From: "Mark Holland" <wholla_m@bellsouth.net>
Subject: OBC advise

With the OBC elections coming up I have been thinking that this would be a way
to give back to the group.  I probably am not known well enough to win an
election but I can volunteer for anything that is needed.  And I will run
for an elected position if nominated.  I would love to go to the card shows
in NY, the National convention and it would be great to join the FOOT clan
for a game.  I feel like I have done all of those things as you have shared
stories through the ramblings exchange. Being involved in the committeewould
give me an opportunity to get to better know other members.

People from our group have given me far more material things than I have sent
them. You have no idea how much enjoyment that I get from seeing these old
cards for the first time.  I originally started collecting in '67 so I have
built my older sets through trading.  When I receive a '57T card it is like
pulling it fresh from a pack and seeing it for the first time.  And who
cares about creases.  We have the perfect standards. So you see why I feel
obligated to give back to the club.  It becomes a part of your life.  Admit
it, don't you wonder if you have mail at home every day?  I do. (Heck, Iam
looking out the window as I write this).

Feel free to offer any advise on how I can contribute to OBC in 2009 and beyond.

Take Care!

Mark Holland
Vintage Wantlist: http://www.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep16&groupid169083&ck/

=================

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:39:50 -0800 (PST)
To: Mark Holland <wholla_m@bellsouth.net>, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC advise

Fr Pat --

I nominate Mark for AC! How many nominations do we have now?

Take Care,

From: Mark Holland <wholla_m@bellsouth.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:09:50 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC advise

With the OBC elections coming up I have been thinking that this would be a way
togive back to the group. I probably am not known wellenough to
win an election but I can volunteer for anything that is needed. And Iwill
run for an elected position if nominated. I would love to go to the
card shows in NY, the National convention and it would be great to join the
FOOT clan for a game.I feel like I have done all of those thingsas
you have shared storiesthrough theramblings exchange.Being involved
in the committee would give me an opportunityto get to better know

People from our group have given me far more material things than I have sent
them.You have no ideahow much enjoyment that I get from seeing these
old cards for the first time. I originally started collecting in '67 so
I have built my older sets through trading. When I receivea'57Tcard
it is like pulling it fresh from a pack and seeing it for the first time.
And who cares about creases. We have the perfect standards.Soyou
see why I feel obligated to give back to the club. It becomes a part
of your life. Admit it, don't you wonder if you have mail at home every
day? I do. (Heck, I am looking out the window as I write this). 
Feel free to offer any advise on howI can contribute to OBC in 2009 and beyond.

Take Care!

Mark Holland
Vintage Wantlist: http://www.att. net/p/s/communit y.dll?ep 16&groupid169083&ck/

=================

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 16:41:07 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: brockhattox@cs.com
Subject: 1956 Topps

I have two white back dupes of 1956 Topps cards in VG condition, if anyone
needs them:169 Nelson and 176 Kellner.   I still need a 117 Trucks white back to
complete my quest....
Brock H.

=================

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:18:07 GMT
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob Saxton" <judgeguy@juno.com>
Subject: hockey & backetball price guides

Availables: Picked up a couple more price guides today. Beckett 2007 basketball
and Beckett 1995 hockey (not very current but might be useful for checklists
on vintage cards)
If you asked for hockey or basketball guides from my prior listings and missed
out let me know so I can give you preference. I misplaced the list of names
and wants.

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:31:43 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Jeffrey Whitworth <jwhitworth30@yahoo.com>
Subject: Non-sports Waiver Wire - Monsters/Freaks

I have the following if anyone wants them.

1973 Topps You'll Die Laughing
16, 17, 18, 22, 49, 52, 55, 82, 84, 94, 96, 100, 106

1973 Donruss Baseball Super Freaks Stickers
5, 6, 10, 11, 27, 31, 38, 40

Jeff Whitworth

=================

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:13:52 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Jeffrey Whitworth <jwhitworth30@yahoo.com>
Subject: *CLAIMED* Re: Non-sports Waiver Wire - Monsters/Freaks

They have been claimed, Thanks!

--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Jeffrey Whitworth <jwhitworth30@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jeffrey Whitworth <jwhitworth30@yahoo.com>
Subject: Non-sports Waiver Wire - Monsters/Freaks
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 8:31 PM

I have the following if anyone wants them.

1973 Topps You'll Die Laughing
16, 17, 18, 22, 49, 52, 55, 82, 84, 94, 96, 100, 106

1973 Donruss Baseball Super Freaks Stickers
5, 6, 10, 11, 27, 31, 38, 40

Jeff Whitworth

=================

To: "obc" <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:10:58 -0600
From: "ken goetsch" <kshoes@charter.net>
Subject: Looking for some help

Is there a site where a person can find out if somebody has a football card............
Like, lets say, Joe Schmo, who got drafted and maybe played very shortly inthe

Thanks in advance for any help.

Ken Goetsch

=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:31:41 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Subject: Closing of OBCAC nomination process, now time for voting!

Good Morning, Ladies and Gentlemen!

At the close of Saturday, February 14, I had received nominations for the following
members to OBCAC which were accepted:

Larry Gersbach, Mark Holland, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner, and Mac Wubben.  Inaddition,
Joe Isaac was renominated for OBCAC Facilitator.

I never received personal acceptance on the following nominations:  Brock Hattox,
Todd Knowles, Peter Mead, James Moleta, Sean McGowan, Bob Neill, andJeff

I received nominations and declinings from the following two members, who will
not be on the OBCAC ballot: Andy Cook and John McLaughlin.

Therefore, the ballot on which you will be voting, beginning today, will beas

and for OBCAC Facilitator

You have until 11:59 p.m. CST on Saturday, February 28, 2009 to get your votes
by e-mail to me.  I will tabulate them and give you the results!

Thanks to all who nominated other members and to those of you who have volunteered
to serve our group!

Father Pat Wattigny

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:47:24 EST
To: seventytwop@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Closing of OBCAC nomination process, now time for voting!
Content-Language: en

why hold the election?  arent there 5 obcac and 1 facilitator position

i suggest we just call it over unless write in candidates are  allowed.

In a message dated 2/15/2009 6:32:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,
seventytwop@hotmail.com writes:

Good Morning, Ladies and Gentlemen!

At the close of Saturday,  February 14, I had received nominations for the
following members to OBCAC  which were accepted:

Larry Gersbach, Mark Holland, Mark Talbot, Geno  Wagner, and Mac Wubben.  In
addition, Joe Isaac was renominated for OBCAC  Facilitator.

I never received personal acceptance on the following  nominations:  Brock
Hattox, Todd Knowles, Peter Mead, James Moleta, Sean  McGowan, Bob Neill, and
Jeff Silva.

I received nominations and  declinings from the following two members, who
will not be on the OBCAC  ballot: Andy Cook and John McLaughlin.

Therefore, the ballot on which  you will be voting, beginning today, will be
as  follows:

and  for OBCAC Facilitator

You have until 11:59 p.m. CST on  Saturday, February 28, 2009 to get your
votes by e-mail to me.  I will  tabulate them and give you the results!

Thanks to all who nominated  other members and to those of you who have
volunteered to serve our  group!

Father Pat Wattigny

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To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:47:17 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Subject: I made an error on the Election slate!

Good morning again all!
Gary Mandell has called my attention to the fact that I mistakenly omitted
Mark Holland from the position of OBCAC Facilitator, as well as havingnominated
Mark for the OBCAC board as well.  With everyone's permission--OBCAC
current board, I want your input on this--I would like to propose changing
the current ballot to reflect Mark's addition on the slate as OBCAC Facilitator
as well.  As soon as I hear from the current board members, I'll make
that change to the ballot.
Peter Mead has called to my attention that our normal board consists of
7 members, according to our OBC by-laws.  We have just five nominees who accepted
so far.  Input, please, from group!  Let me know what your pleasure
is.  I have received two vote slates already, just for the record.

Talk to y'all soon!

Father Pat

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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:45:20 GMT
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob Saxton" <judgeguy@juno.com>
Subject: price guides

Hi boys and girl!  I know several of you could use various price guides 'cause
when I've posted availables there are more takers than I have books. Almost
every book sale I go to I find a couple guides of one sort or another.If
you let me know what books you want - baseball, football, hockey, basketball,
etc, and any stipulation as to how recent, I'll take a list with me and
try to eventually work through everyone's wants.
If there are other books you'd like me to add to my search list, let me know
that also.
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:47:22 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob D'Angelo" <bdangelo@aol.com>
Subject: A call for your unwanted, older hockey

Hi gang,

I've been doing some trading with a big hockey fan in Pennsylvania. In
exchange for my hockey, he has been sending me some really nice
vintage baseball (some of you may have seen it recently, smile).

Now he tells me he is still in need of older hockey, so if you have
any lying around that needs a home, send them my way and perhaps I can
cash it in for something you need. Already, he has sent me baseball
cards from 1959, 1962 and 1972. He is going to dig out his mid-1960s
stuff as well and send it my way.

Here is what my friend seeks: O-Pee-Chee or Topps hockey cards from
the 1970s, early 1980s, up until the 1987-88 sets. He prefers O-Pee-
Chee. Also, any 1969-75 cards depicting Montreal Canadiens. Penguins
cards from any of those years as well.

No obligation of course. If you send me something, I will make a note,
and if he sends me something you need, it will be headed your way.

It's an unusual request, but the benefits have been really good so
far. No guarantees of course. But I know my sets are getting harder to
hit, so why not hockey haha.

Hope this isn't too odd of a request.

=================

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 23:03:05 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "kevin71058" <KEVINM38@aol.com>
Subject: What's good for you..Kelloggs and Dejong..

Hi all,

Thanks go out to Doug Dejong for sending a 1972 Kelloggs Tom Seaver
Doug, Thank you soooooooooo much for the Tom Seaver card!!

Happy Trading,
Kevin Martens

=================

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:15:36 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Closing of OBCAC nomination process, now time for voting!

At the risk of looking like political campaigning, I apologize for a delay in
accepting anomination (from Ray Luurs).  I thought the deadline for accepting
was today, not yesterday.  After a harrowing ride home yesterday (I was in
Ann Arbor and the normally 50 minute ride took close to 2 1/2 hours, due to no
less than 17 spin outs and accidents, including 1 car directly in front of us
that spun and took out a few cars.  After the ride I was not in any mood to
look a the computer.  The OBCAC normally has 7 members, and with only 5 on the
ballot at the moment, I gladly accept the nomination.
Mike Rich
> At the close of Saturday, February 14, I had received nominations for the
> following members to OBCAC which were accepted:
> Larry Gersbach, Mark Holland, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner, and Mac Wubben.  In
> addition, Joe Isaac was renominated for OBCAC Facilitator.
> I never received personal acceptance on the following nominations:  Brock
> Hattox, Todd Knowles, Peter Mead, James Moleta, Sean McGowan, Bob Neill, and
> Jeff Silva.
> I received nominations and declinings from the following two members, who
> will not be on the OBCAC ballot: Andy Cook and John McLaughlin.
> Therefore, the ballot on which you will be voting, beginning today, will be
> as follows:
> Gersbach
> Holland
> Talbot
> Wagner
> Wubben
> and for OBCAC Facilitator
> Isaac.
> You have until 11:59 p.m. CST on Saturday, February 28, 2009 to get your
> votes by e-mail to me.  I will tabulate them and give you the results!

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To: <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:01:37 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" <familytoad@comcast.net>
Subject: UV help needed

Howdy folks,
Could one of you please contact me about posting a WL on the UV server on my

I only collect one set of UV, and I don't really want to put my list on theRamblings
server...nor do I anticipate using this service more than once or

'pre-sheated !!!

OBC Forever

=================

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:45:17 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
Subject: I need a vector

OBCers --

I used to be a big accumulator of all kinds of cards, but after moving themevery
three years I started getting a bit tired of the bulkiness of my collection.
When I moved overseas, I decided to trim my collection to T202sand
T205s, although I already have a complete T205 basic set. That didn't
leave much chance to get any OBC action, so I recently added 1952 Topps to
my list to get some mail flowing. I really like the 1952 cards, but Ihave
no desire to pay a bunch of money for a Mantle or all the other high
numbers. When I first added the 1952 list, I was just going to collectCubs
and Red Sox - then I changed my mind and opted to put the whole set on
my list. Now I'm reconsidering and think that just those two teams maybe
theway to go. That way I get a nice handful of cards and can go for
some nicer condition cards with the extra dough.

So what do you guys think? Collect all the '52s, or just the Cubs and Red
Sox? BTW, somebody sent me a team list of Cubs and Red Sox and I can'tfind
it - can someone send me that again? I'll also stick to my Dick Hoblitzell
collection, which I've just started recently. He's a common in a
bunch of pre-war sets and was a dentist in the Army in WWI, hence his nickname
of Doc. It's a good way to get a type set together...

Please chime in - I'd be glad to hear what you think - to include any recent
redirection you've taken...

Take Care,

=================

Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:13:43 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper <john@holidayandhobbies.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need a vector

As someone who loves to hit want lists, it is nice to be able to send something to everyone once in a while. The more limited a collection, the less that can be sent out and therefore the less that can be received. If the purpose of adding the 52 set was to start wearing the hinges off the mail box, than limiting the set will be counterproductive. You can always go after the cards from the low #'s and upgrade along the way. If you prefer Teams, than perhaps broaden the years, perhaps from 52-70's.

Although it is your set and you should collect what you enjoy.

John Stamper

Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
OBCers --

I used to be a big accumulator of all kinds of cards, but after moving them every three years I started getting a bit tired of the bulkiness of my collection.  When I moved overseas, I decided to trim my collection to T202s and T205s, although I already have a complete T205 basic set.  That didn't leave much chance to get any OBC action, so I recently added 1952 Topps to my list to get some mail flowing.  I really like the 1952 cards, but I have no desire to pay a bunch of money for a Mantle or all the other high numbers.  When I first added the 1952 list, I was just going to collect Cubs and Red Sox - then I changed my mind and opted to put the whole set on my list.  Now I'm reconsidering and think that just those two teams may be the way to go.  That way I get a nice handful of cards and can go for some nicer condition cards with the extra dough.

So what do you guys think?  Collect all the '52s, or just the Cubs and Red Sox?  BTW, somebody sent me a team list of Cubs and Red Sox and I can't find it - can someone send me that again?  I'll also stick to my Dick Hoblitzell collection, which I've just started recently.  He's a common in a bunch of pre-war sets and was a dentist in the Army in WWI, hence his nickname of Doc.  It's a good way to get a type set together...

Please chime in - I'd be glad to hear what you think - to include any recent redirection you've taken...

Take Care,

=================

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 02:14:08 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1969/70 Topps Hockey Available

Thanks to my recent auction wins, I have the following 1969/70 Topps Hockeyup
for grabs:

19 Sabourin (Blues)
28 McKenzie (Bruins)
42 Ratelle (Rangers)
47 Henderson (Leafs)
49 Smith (Leafs)
58 Bergman (Wings)
67 Jarrett (Hawks)
68 Marotte (Hawks)
72Mohns (Hawks)
75 Martin (Hawks)
77 Hodge (Seals)
80 Marshall (Seals) (x2)
82 Vadnais (Seals) (x2)
83 Ehman (Seals)
84 Hicke (Seals) (x2)
85 Jarrett (Seals)
86 Hampson (Seals)
91 Hillman (Flyers) (x2)
92 Van Impe (Flyers)
93 Watson (Flyers)
97 Johnson (Flyers)
102 Flett (Kings)
105 Rochefort (Kings) - this one's a little cheesy
111 Pratt (Penguins)
112 Watson (Penguins)
124 Miszuk (North Stars)
126 Larose (North Stars)
128 Williams (North Stars)
129 Burns (North Stars) (x2)

Grab 'em if you need 'em, gentlemen!

Glasgow, Scotland

=================

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:09:37 -0500
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Don Rice <dkrice@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Oddball & NonSport Waiver Wire

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<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
All sorts of weird oddballs lying around looking for a new home.
Condition varies from fair to Ex; most are in the low VGish range. No
holes or man-made beards, however! Claim away, and make my life easier
by including your mailing address. Please do NOT be shy. Thanks! Don<br>
1962 Topps Stamp: Bladschun<br>
1969 Topps Stamps: Fryman &nbsp;&nbsp; Bud Harrelson<br>
1968 Topps Game: 20 33<br>
1970 Fleer World Series (blue back): 15 37 62<br>
1974 Fleer Pioneers: 12 22<br>
1961 Fleer: 67<br>
1972 OPC: 256<br>
1961 Golden Press: 15<br>
1976 Hostess: (heavily trimmed): 79(Ryan) 112 <br>
2005 Helmar: Deal Youngs Dalager<br>
1970-71 Topps: 126<br>
1972-73 Topps: 10<br>
1979-80 Topps: 3 4 6 2867 73<br>
1971-72 Topps: 22 84 86 116<br>
1971-71 OPC Story Booklet: 10(Clarke)<br>
1977-78 OPC: 168<br>
?1981 Donruss: 5(Crenshaw)<br>
1961 Topps Giant Funny Valentines: 25<br>
1966 Topps Rat patrol: 40<br>
1964 OPC Beatles B&amp;W: 101<br>
1964 OPC Beatles Color: 16 36 41 44 48 53 56 58<br>
1964 Topps Beatles B&amp;W: 56 65 92<br>
1964 Topps Beatles Color: 36 57<br>
1964 Topps Beatles Hard Day's Night: 20 34&nbsp; 39 49<br>
1966 Raybert Monkees Sepia: 5 <br>
1966 Raybert Monkees Series A: 33A<br>
1966 Raybert Monkees Series B: 1B 2B 4B 5B 9B 12B 16B 22B 26B 27B 29B
31B 34B 35B 37B 39B 42B <br>
1966 Donruss/Greenway Green Hornet: 14 24<br>
1966 Philadelphia Green Berets: 2 5 15 20 22 25 29 33 35 36 37 39 40 41
44 45 47 50 53 55 56 59 61 62<br>
Don Rice<br>
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=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:43:36 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Subject: Updated Candidate Information for Elections--Please Read Carefully

Hello all!
I have heard from three members who are candidates or who want to be added
to the candidates' list.  Mark Holland, already nominated by Gary Mandell
for both OBCAC and OBCAC-Facilitator positions, wishes to run only for the
OBCAC position.  Peter Mead and Mike Rich wish to be added to the current
slate of 5 candidates for the OBCAC team.  I am awaiting word from Brock Hattox,
who was asked by Geno Wagner, to see if he will accept a nominationfor
the OBCAC.  If Brock accepts, we would have 8 members running for the 7
positions.  Joe Isaac would be the only one nominated for OBCAC Facilitator,
and would, I suppose, win by acclamation.  Some of you have voted already;
I have saved your e-mails and not written down any votes as yet.
What I am suggesting for the entire group is that we add today Messrs. Mead
and Rich to the OBCAC candidate slate, remomve Mr. Holland from consideration
for OBCAC-Facilitator, and once we hear from Mr. Hattox, we make a final
slate of candidates and vote until February 28th.
If said suggestion is agreeable to all, I will proceed accordingly and begin
taking your votes on paper as well as on e-mail.

Father Pat

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:52:12 EST
To: seventytwop@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Updated Candidate Information for Elections--Please Read ...

Fr. Pat:

Just let the OBCAC rule on this.  To get 200 opinions at this point  would
take longer than the election.

In a message dated 2/16/2009 3:44:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
seventytwop@hotmail.com writes:

Hello all!
I have heard from three members who are  candidates or who want to be added
to the candidates' list.  Mark  Holland, already nominated by Gary Mandell for
both OBCAC and  OBCAC-Facilitator positions, wishes to run only for the OBCAC
position.   Peter Mead and Mike Rich wish to be added to the current slate of
5 candidates  for the OBCAC team.  I am awaiting word from Brock Hattox, who
was asked  by Geno Wagner, to see if he will accept a nomination for the OBCAC.
If  Brock accepts, we would have 8 members running for the 7 positions.  Joe
Isaac would be the only one nominated for OBCAC Facilitator, and would, I
suppose, win by acclamation.  Some of you have voted already; I have  saved
your e-mails and not written down any votes as yet.
What I am suggesting for the entire group is that we  add today Messrs. Mead
and Rich to the OBCAC candidate slate, remomve Mr.  Holland from consideration
for OBCAC-Facilitator, and once we hear from Mr.  Hattox, we make a final
slate of candidates and vote until February  28th.
If said suggestion is agreeable to all, I will  proceed accordingly and begin
taking your votes on paper as well as on  e-mail.

Father Pat

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:10:44 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "distelrath66" <ryandistelrath@gmail.com>
Subject: I am a in a mission fellas

After winning the charity auction, I came across three 1970 team
cards.  I figured it would be an entertaining endeavor for all of us
if I were to obtain as many team cards from 1970 to 1972 in order to
get them autographed by all of the living players.  As the autographs
come in, I will post them in the ramblings section.

So, if you have any spare team cards -- no matter what team, no
matter what condition from 1970 to 1972 that you can donate to the
cause, they would be very much appreciated.  I feel this will be a
very fun project.

Thank you for any help!
Ryan Distelrath
713 McGraw St.
Clarksville, Tennessee, 37040

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:12:19 -0500
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Don Rice <dkrice@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Oddball & NonSport Waiver Wire   Just a few left

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
The waiver wire has been decimated, with just a few lonely soldiers
remaining, waiting patiently to be claimed. So, someone, please claim
them. Bueller. Bueller. Anyone?. Thanks! Don <br>
Remaining players are...<br>
1961 Fleer: 67<br>
1976 Hostess: 112 <br>
2005 Helmar: Deal Youngs Dalager<br>
?1981 Donruss: 5(Crenshaw)<br>
Don Rice<br>
3 Rockefeller Blvd.<br>
Rensselaer, NY 12144<br>

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To: "obc rambling" <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>,
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:41:04 -0500
From: "ant" <senthi@earthlink.net>
Subject: 1977 or 1978 opc wrappers

Hello All,
I have some dupes for trade. I do think they are 77's but not sure so they may
be 78's. I forgot to write them down when recieved them several months ago.They
cost 15 cents and have 2 different variation advertisiments.
Anyone interested?

anthony artbeeny
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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:39:12 -0600
To: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
From: Yaz <yazobc@insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need a vector

What's  "nicer condition cards"?

Greg (yaz)

Geno Wagner wrote:
> OBCers --
> I used to be a big accumulator of all kinds of cards, but after moving
> them every three years I started getting a bit tired of the bulkiness
> of my collection.  When I moved overseas, I decided to trim my
> collection to T202s and T205s, although I already have a complete T205
> basic set.  That didn't leave much chance to get any OBC action, so I
> recently added 1952 Topps to my list to get some mail flowing.  I
> really like the 1952 cards, but I have no desire to pay a bunch of
> money for a Mantle or all the other high numbers.  When I first added
> the 1952 list, I was just going to collect Cubs and Red Sox - then I
> changed my mind and opted to put the whole set on my list.  Now I'm
> reconsidering and think that just those two teams may be the way to
> go.  That way I get a nice handful of cards and can go for some nicer
> condition cards with the extra dough.
> So what do you guys think?  Collect all the '52s, or just the Cubs and
> Red Sox?  BTW, somebody sent me a team list of Cubs and Red Sox and I
> can't find it - can someone send me that again?  I'll also stick to my
> Dick Hoblitzell collection, which I've just started recently.  He's a
> common in a bunch of pre-war sets and was a dentist in the Army in
> WWI, hence his nickname of Doc.  It's a good way to get a type set
> together...
> Please chime in - I'd be glad to hear what you think - to include any
> recent redirection you've taken...
> Take Care,
> Geno

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To: "'OBC Ramblings'" <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:11:47 -0800
From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" <elhegreenwood@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] I need a vector

I am with you on the cash issue on the 52's, Mantle, etc.  I am still
completing a few sets, but am also collecting HOF'ers that played between
1901 and 2001, a few select players I followed growing up, and a type card
collection (1989 (when I stopped buying packs) and earlier). The later is
great for two reasons.  It is great to be able to pick up hits for 25=A2 to
50=A2.  I also like looking through my 5 inch binder with the variety it

Erik Greenwood

From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Geno Wagner
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:45 PM
To: OBC Ramblings
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I need a vector

OBCers --

I used to be a big accumulator of all kinds of cards, but after moving them
every three years I started getting a bit tired of the bulkiness of my
collection.  When I moved overseas, I decided to trim my collection to T202s
and T205s, although I already have a complete T205 basic set.  That didn't
leave much chance to get any OBC action, so I recently added 1952 Topps to
my list to get some mail flowing.  I really like the 1952 cards, but I have
no desire to pay a bunch of money for a Mantle or all the other high
numbers.  When I first added the 1952 list, I was just going to collect Cubs
and Red Sox - then I changed my mind and opted to put the whole set on my
list.  Now I'm reconsidering and think that just those two teams may be the
way to go.  That way I get a nice handful of cards and can go for some nicer
condition cards with the extra dough.

So what do you guys think?  Collect all the '52s, or just the Cubs and Red
Sox?  BTW, somebody sent me a team list of Cubs and Red Sox and I can't find
it - can someone send me that again?  I'll also stick to my Dick Hoblitzell
collection, which I've just started recently.  He's a common in a bunch of
pre-war sets and was a dentist in the Army in WWI, hence his nickname of
Doc.  It's a good way to get a type set together...

Please chime in - I'd be glad to hear what you think - to include any recent
redirection you've taken...

Take Care,

=================

To: "obc rambling" <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:08:41 -0500
From: "ant" <senthi@earthlink.net>
Subject: ebay lovin's

Hello All,
What you have to love about ebay is the times you just down right score. 2 cards
which are the same but slightly different titles. Here is the kicker.one
ends on Monday night around 9 pm for $71 in nrmt (I bid $11) and the second
one ended this morning for $3.01 in vg- condition. That card would bea
1970 opc thurman Munson #189. After about 30 strikes I hit the mark.MAybe
this will bring me some luck in finishing the set.
=================

To: OBC Ramblings <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:12:21 -0500
From: Bob Reed <boreed@hotmail.com>
Subject: I need help ID-ing some phots.

Can anybody help me ID some of the players in these photos?

http://s722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/micahdority/

-Bob R

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To: "OBC Ramblings" <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>, "Bob Reed" <boreed@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:17:35 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I need help ID-ing some phots.

These photos are from 1941 or 1942, the years that the Yanks and the Cards were
in the WS.

In the top row, one photo shows Leo Durocher and what looks like Terry Moore.
Another shows Mort and Walker Cooper (p & c).

Another shows Marty Marion.  Another shows maybe Frankie Crosetti.

Bottom row, middle photo shows Johnny Mize and maybe Joe Gordon.  Another possibly
Bill Dickey and Harry Walker.

No clue on the others.

On Tue 02/17/09  9:12 AM , Bob Reed boreed@hotmail.com sent:
> Can anybody help me ID some of the players in these photos?
> http://s722.photobucket.com/albums/ww229/micahdority/ [1]
> Thanks.
> -Bob R
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:41:30 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: 1955 Ernie Banks - True OBC condition!!

Anybody need a 55T Ernie Banks? Finishes tonight (Tuesday), only 99c, no bidders yet!

A classic OBC card!!

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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:49:19 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Matthew <obc_spike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Question about 1928 Babe Ruth Candy card

OK, this comes from before most of the sets out there, but wanted to survey folks to see if they'd ever bid on it. It's a key #5 for my type set, but I suspect it's been counterfeited often enough to wallpaper a house or two.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140301785120&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:Watchlink:middle:us

I'll probably ask for opinions at the pre-war Network54 site as well, but I like you folks even better. :-)

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:11:52 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Rick" <rrrlyons@msn.com>
Subject: Help with ebay purchase

Can someone with paypal make a bid for me on ebay # 160315278679
it is a 1930 ted lyons schutter-johnson card.I would bid 38$ I know
that is probably too much but I never seen this ted lyons card before .
It closes in a hour and a half.I can get a money order out to you
tomorrow if you win. please let me know if you are going to bid so
someone else doesn't do it for me. thanks Rick

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:54:59 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Rick" <rrrlyons@msn.com>
Subject: Brock has come to my aid

Brock said he would bid for me so no one has to do it. thanks Brock

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:52:52 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: Set killer!!!!

Well, its not yet in my grubby, sweaty palms, but it looks like my 1971/72 Topps Hockey set is complete!!

When I checked my email this morning, I found that my ebay bid on a Ken Dryden RC had been successful. Looks like I got a nice card for less than $10! I'm psyched!

That's 2 vintage sets (1960T Baseball and 1971/72T Hockey) knocked off within the past few months. What's next? There are a few candidates. I need a #2 Pete Rose for the 1970 Kelloggs set, a #49 Roberto Clemente for the 1972 Kelloggs set, Years 1912 1926 & 1944 for the 1970 Fleer World Series set, and #150 (Sayers) and #156 (Bradshaw) for the 1971T Football set.

2009 could turn out to be a bumper year for me as far as set completion is concerned!!

Glasgow, Scotland

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:01:26 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: About that 1955 Ernie Banks.....

That damaged '55T banks that I posted up yesterday went for $4.35. Was it won by one of our guys? Just curious!

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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:47:45 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@yahoo.com>
Subject: Hockey bonanza!!!! Can't believe I got these!

Well, this is obviously a good day for me on the hockey card front.

Six days ago, I stuck in a bid on a 3 card lot of 1968/69 OPC which included Gordie Howe, Terry Sawchuk, and Alex Delvecchio. I thought my $23 bid would easily get outstripped eventually, but once again the credit crunch comes up trumps for me!! I squeezed in just under the bar, picking them up for $22. Wow! The Sawchuk alone routinely goes for more than that!

Just the Crozier and Baun needed to close out my 68/69OPC Red Wings team set. Incidentally, until a few months back I thought I had a Crozier...turned out I had a Topps version in the OPC binder. Damn gremlins!

=================

To: "OBC Ramblings" <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>,
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:04:37 -0500
From: "ant" <senthi@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hockey bonanza!!!! Can't believe I got these!

I agree. I just scored a 65-66 topps Hull for whopping .79 cents in vg condition.
Maybe it is Hockey season?

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Codere
To: OBC Ramblings
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hockey bonanza!!!! Can't believe I got these!

Well, this is obviously a good day for me on the hockey card front.

Six days ago, I stuck in a bid on a 3 card lot of 1968/69 OPC which included
Gordie Howe, Terry Sawchuk, and Alex Delvecchio. I thought my $23 bid would
easily get outstripped eventually, but once again the credit crunch comes
up trumps for me!! I squeezed in just under the bar, picking them up for
$22. Wow! The Sawchuk alone routinely goes for more than that!

Just the Crozier and Baun needed to close out my 68/69OPC Red Wings team set.
Incidentally, until a few months back I thought I had a Crozier...turned
out I had a Topps version in the OPC binder. Damn gremlins!

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:22:45 -0500
From: typecard@aol.com
Subject: Re:Question about 1928 Babe Ruth Candy card

It doesn't look right to me. I think you should pass on it.

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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:54:49 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Rick Johnson" <ricktopps@aol.com>
Subject: 1961 Golden Press cards in its original intact book

When I was a kid in the late 60's I was always intrigued by a Lou
Gehrig baseball card that I had somehow acquired.  I later found out
the oddly perforated card was a 1961 Golden Press card.  I later found
out this set originally had been part of a book and that the
individual cards had been pulled from a book at one time.  I just ran
across an old book that although not perfect it is intact with cards
still in the book.  I picked it up and wanted to show you what they
originally looked like for anyone that might not know.  The price was
a little steep, but it is unusual to get the whole book still intact.
I also checked and saw one other intact book that the bidding went to
$427 but didn't sell because it hadn't met the sellers reserve. That
made me feel like I would go ahead and pick it up.

Rick Johnson

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?

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To: <ricktopps@aol.com>, <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:29:42 +0000
From: LYONS RONI <rrrlyons@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Golden Press cards in its original intact

Nice Rick. Renton is about 30 miles from where I live you mind if I go downthere
and pick it up.

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: ricktopps@aol.com
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:54:49 +0000
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Golden Press cards in its original intact book

When I was a kid in the late 60's I was always intrigued by a Lou
Gehrig baseball card that I had somehow acquired. I later found out
the oddly perforated card was a 1961 Golden Press card. I later found
out this set originally had been part of a book and that the
individual cards had been pulled from a book at one time. I just ran
across an old book that although not perfect it is intact with cards
still in the book. I picked it up and wanted to show you what they
originally looked like for anyone that might not know. The price was
a little steep, but it is unusual to get the whole book still intact.
I also checked and saw one other intact book that the bidding went to
$427 but didn't sell because it hadn't met the sellers reserve. That
made me feel like I would go ahead and pick it up.

Rick Johnson

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?

=================

To: <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:05:09 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" <vrechek@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re:Question about 1928 Babe Ruth Candy card

I echo the notion that this doesn't smell too good. The SCD Catalog even
warns that this issue was deceptively counterfeited in the 21st Century."

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:30:35 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Matthew <obc_spike@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Question about 1928 Babe Ruth Candy card

Thanks, George. That's the consensus for the card, so I'm holding off and will
feel for the "winner."

From: George Vrechek <vrechek@ameritech.net>
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:05:09 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:Question about 1928 Babe Ruth Candy card

I echo the notion that this doesn=E2=99t smell too good.
The SCD Catalog even warns that this issue was deceptively counterfeited inthe
21st Century.=E2=9D

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:08:04 -0500
To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: Bob Donaldson <obcbobd@gmail.com>
Subject: any thoughts on this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=180330008794

Looks ok to be but I know Exhibits are often reprinted.  The Ruth is
#1 on my wantlist, this is one time when I'd prefer graded just so I
know it's legit.  Any thoughts on the card, or the seller.

=================

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:27:33 EST
To: obcbobd@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] any thoughts on this

Without having it in hand, it looks good to me. The seller has sold some
higher end vintage stuff lately as well and all seem to be happy with the
product...If you do win and you want to part with the Cobb, I would be  interested.

In a message dated 2/20/2009 5:08:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
obcbobd@gmail.com writes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=18

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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:55:55 EST
To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: closing in !!!

less than 8 years ago,  while wandering around my house bored one day, i came
across a shoebox that held  what survived of my childhood baseball and
football card collection.  maybe  600 cards in all covering 1964-1973.  i needed an
indoor hobby (a  necessity in chicago, and before fantasy football was
popular), and thought  that, with the internet, i bet i could pick up with baseball
card collecting and  maybe finish these childhood sets.

in the next several months, i ventured into the scary world of  ebay and
learned about several online trading groups, having joined  several.

over the years, as my wantlist became tougher to hit or even  find hits to, i
added other topps sets and other brands like bowman, topps  inserts, post and
kelloggs, most with the help of my online friends,

today, as i opened a recent ebay purchase, and placed the cards  in their
respective binders,  i realized i am now only 11 cards away  from finishing my
topps (1952-2007) run!  with SPs now making their way  into topps base sets, i
really dont consider the modern sets as part of the run,  but i will try to
finish them up anyway.

so if you are still reading, here are the 11 cards left to  finish the run.
there are some variations and upgrades i am pursuing in 52  and 53, and will
probably add a few more years to that quest, but this run is my  main goal.  of
course, with a 52 mantle and mathews on the list, it wont be  easy, but at 51
years old, i figure (hope!) i still have a while to find  them.

just in case anyone can hit these lists, i do have a few 52 hi #  dupes, and
also some trimmed hi #s that i would trade for a replacement, plus  add some
payback in your favor.  i have hundreds of 52s and many dozen 53s  to trade as

if you can help, great!  if not, thanks for the read, and  for helping me get
this close to realizing this dream!

Gary  Mandell
3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108
Chicago, IL  60613-5518

OCT, OBC, DT, TB

1952 TOPPS BASE SET WANT  LIST   11 TO GO  !!!

311, 315, 331, 344, 345,  352, 355, 361, 368, 369, 407

1952 TOPPS BACK VARIATION  AND UPGRADE WANT LIST (t - have trimmed, looking
for upgrade)

49 sain with black back  and joe page bio, 322t, 359t, 397t, 402t

1953 TOPPS BACK VARIATION  WANT LIST  (w-white bio/b-black bio)

10b, 86b, 87b, 93b, 95w,  104b, 119w, 123b, 132b, 137b, 142b, 147w, 149w,

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=================

Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:11:42 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: brockhattox@cs.com
Subject: Fwd: (BN) Moneyball II: Statistics Driving Marketing for MLB's Indians
To: Brock & Debbie Hattox <Brockhattox@cs.com>
From: Sandy and Sally Siegler <salsan@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Fwd: (BN) Moneyball II: Statistics Driving Marketing for MLB's Indians
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:09:06 -0500

At least the Indians got one thing right.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Scott J. Siegler" <scott.siegler@carringtoncap.com>
> Date: February 20, 2009 4:32:12 PM EST
> To: "Siegler, Sanford" <SSiegler@mayfieldschools.org>, "Sandy and
> Sally Siegler" <salsan@roadrunner.com>
> Subject: FW: (BN) Moneyball II: Statistics Driving Marketing for
> MLB's Indians
> Moneyball II: Statistics Driving Marketing for MLB's Indians
> 2009-02-20 05:01:05.0 GMT
> By Curtis Eichelberger
>      Feb. 20 (Bloomberg) -- The Cleveland Indians may have found
> their most valuable statistics this season are coming from the
> ticket office rather than the playing field.
>      Using statistical analysis of ticket purchases to understand
> the preferences and price limits of their fans, the Indians
> learned that fireworks after a game draw an additional 4,000
> fans; every one-degree temperature drop below 70 Fahrenheit costs
> them 300; and when the New York Yankees come to town, attendance
> jumps 11,000.
>      The Major League Baseball club is at the forefront of using
> statistical analysis to design pricing. The team says its plan
> will increase ticket revenue 5 percent this season as the U.S.
> skids into its worst economic decline since the Great Depression.
>      "The goal was to do a better job figuring out what people
> were willing to pay for their product," said Vince Gennaro, 57,
> a Purchase, New York-based consultant who managed the research
> project. "Where could we add value to convince them to make the
> purchase or decrease the price where demand is lower?"
>      Since the recession started at the end of 2007, the U.S.
> economy has lost 3.57 million jobs, the biggest employment slump
> of any postwar economic contraction. In Cleveland, the
> unemployment rate rose to 7.1 percent in December, up from 6
> percent a year earlier.
>      Baseball teams haven't escaped the fallout. Teams including
> the Washington Nationals and Boston Red Sox have cut or frozen
> ticket prices this season. Oakland Athletics owner Lew Wolff said
> last month that ticket sales were down 10 percent.
>                          Third Place
>      The Indians, who finished 81-81, third in the American
> League Central Division last season, charged an average $25.72 a
> ticket, according to Team Marketing Report, with attendance of
> 2.2 million for their 81 home games.
>      "We always had this premise that all games are not created
> equal," said Vic Gregovits, the Indians' senior vice president
> of sales and marketing. "But we were charging fans like they
> were."
>      Gennaro, author of "Diamond Dollar$: The Economics of
> Winning in Baseball," analyzed three years of Indians sales
> data. He correlated factors like attendance, no-shows and walk-up
> sales with weather, promotions, the team's record and the school
> calendar to determine what isolated events contributed to
> purchases.
>                          Royals, Red Sox?
>      He then asked more than 200 people in focus groups to rate
> their preferences. Would they rather watch the Indians play the
> Kansas City Royals during the warm days of July or the Boston Red
> Sox on cold, windy day in April? Would a bobblehead-doll
> promotion matter?
>      Lastly, the team researched the secondary ticket market to
> see which games drew more than face value.
>      "This gave us a mosaic of how fans placed a premium on
> certain games, and along with our regression analysis, really
> allowed us to start honing in on what our fans were thinking,"
> Gennaro said.
>      The Indians' research revealed that when children are on
> summer break, attendance increases 1,200; if rain is in the
> forecast, it falls 2,200; a bobblehead-doll giveaway brings in
> 4,700 people; and any promotion involving centerfielder Grady
> Sizemore, an All-Star three of his five seasons, increases
> attendance by 6,600.
>                     Adapted to Schedule
>      Once the research was complete, the team adapted it to the
> 2009 schedule.
>      "The Indians are at the forefront of what many teams are
> trying to do with variable pricing," said Michael Arya, 47, co-
> founder of Pasadena, California-based TixTrack Inc., a company
> that analyzes the secondary ticket market and consults with
> professional teams. "It's about more than just charging more
> when the Yankees come to town. They are trying to make educated
> decisions, based less on guesswork and more on analysis."
>      The San Francisco Giants announced a plan in December that
> allows them to adjust prices up to the morning of the game,
> enabling the club to keep pace with the secondary market.
>      The Indians came up with a four-tiered ticket plan that
> lowered prices to fill empty seats and increased prices when
> demand was high.
>      Promotions, like giveaways and fireworks, and season-ticket
> campaigns were then designed to increase what fans in each of the
> pricing plans were demanding most.
>      The biggest discounts are during weekday games in April and
> May, when the weather can get cold and rainy, children are in
> school and other sports are still in season. Ticket prices for
> seats in the park's lower bowl were cut by as much as 50 percent.
>                     Cheaper in April
>      Tickets at the field box level (about seven rows behind the
> dugout) are $25 for weekday games in April and May; $50 for
> weekend games in those months; $60 for weekday games after
> Memorial Day and $70 for summer weekends.
>      "The economy is making us look for ways to show fans
> value," Gregovits said.
>      Gennaro said that while baseball people have been using
> statistics to judge players for years, it hasn't been used as
> much by sales and marketing departments.
>      "The industry moves on inertia, repeating what it did last
> year without a lot of fresh thought or quantitative analysis to
> understand the value of the promotion," Gennaro said. "There is
> a whole world out there ready to be tapped into."
> For Related News and Information:
> Baseball news: NI MLB <GO>
> Indians news: NI INDIANS <GO>
> News on sports business: NI SPORTBIZ <GO>
> Top sports news: USPO <GO>
> News on U.S. economy: NI USECO <GO>
> --Editor: Michael Sillup, Vince Golle
> To contact the reporter on this story:
> Curtis Eichelberger in Washington at +1-202-624-1992 or
> ceichelberge@bloomberg.net
> To contact the editor responsible for this story:
> Michael Sillup in New York at +1-212-617-1262 or
> msillup@bloomberg.net

=================

To: <smartalecx@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:03:06 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" <vrechek@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re:closing in !!!

Dear Gary Mandell

Nice work. That is considerable progress in that your collection to start
with didn't have anything from 1952 to 1963. I had the opposite situation.

I can contribute a 137 Black bio 1953 Rutherford in say Good + if you still
need one. Sorry I don't have any extra 52 highs today. I also have one 52 hi
of Kelley that I had as a kid that was trimmed to the size of a 52 Bowman.
The most achievable of my remaining needs from 1952 on are probably
McDougald and Dickey 1952 T. I passed on a $20 Dickey at the National at
McCormick Place. Why do we remember the fish that got away?

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:47:53 -0600
To: smartalecx@aol.com
From: Yaz <yazobc@insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] closing in !!!

Way to go Gary! This information also tends to explain why I seemed to
have no problem hitting your list some years ago but now just end up
scratching my head when I visit your wantlist.

Greg (yaz)

smartalecx@aol.com wrote:
> less than 8 years ago, while wandering around my house bored one day,
> i came across a shoebox that held what survived of my childhood
> baseball and football card collection.  maybe 600 cards in all
> covering 1964-1973.  i needed an indoor hobby (a necessity in chicago,
> and before fantasy football was popular), and thought that, with the
> internet, i bet i could pick up with baseball card collecting and
> maybe finish these childhood sets.
> in the next several months, i ventured into the scary world of ebay
> and learned about several online trading groups, having joined several.
> over the years, as my wantlist became tougher to hit or even find hits
> to, i added other topps sets and other brands like bowman, topps
> inserts, post and kelloggs, most with the help of my online friends,
> today, as i opened a recent ebay purchase, and placed the cards in
> their respective binders,  i realized i am now only 11 cards away from
> finishing my topps (1952-2007) run!  with SPs now making their way
> into topps base sets, i really dont consider the modern sets as part
> of the run, but i will try to finish them up anyway.
> so if you are still reading, here are the 11 cards left to finish the
> run.  there are some variations and upgrades i am pursuing in 52 and
> 53, and will probably add a few more years to that quest, but this run
> is my main goal.  of course, with a 52 mantle and mathews on the list,
> it wont be easy, but at 51 years old, i figure (hope!) i still have a
> while to find them.
> just in case anyone can hit these lists, i do have a few 52 hi #
> dupes, and also some trimmed hi #s that i would trade for a
> replacement, plus add some payback in your favor.  i have hundreds of
> 52s and many dozen 53s to trade as well.
> if you can help, great!  if not, thanks for the read, and for helping
> me get this close to realizing this dream!
> Gary Mandell
> 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108
> Chicago, IL 60613-5518
> OCT, OBC, DT, TB
> *1952 TOPPS BASE SET WANT LIST   **11 TO GO !!!*
> 311, 315, 331, 344, 345, 352, 355, 361, 368, 369, 407
> *1952 TOPPS BACK VARIATION AND UPGRADE WANT LIST (t - have trimmed,
> looking for upgrade)*
> 49 sain with black back and joe page bio, 322t, 359t, 397t, 402t
> *1953 TOPPS BACK VARIATION WANT LIST  (w-white bio/b-black bio)*
> 10b, 86b, 87b, 93b, 95w, 104b, 119w, 123b, 132b, 137b, 142b, 147w,
> 149w, 163b
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:04:28 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" <mikesportsfan@aol.com>
Subject: FOOT alert Redford show March 1

Next Sunday, March 1 is the Redford show at the VFW hall.  Please let
us know who is planning on attending.
Mike Rich

=================

Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:26:39 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Linda" <jazzgirl1920s@aol.com>
Subject: Mel Ott hits a home run in 1933 World Series

Hi Guys. I have seen old films of some of the great 50's and 60's players. I
have cards like we
all do of Willie Mays, Mantle, Duke Snider and others and had seen Mantle play
when I was a
kid and seen films of many others. One star I have cards of is Mel Ott, a 500
club home run
hitter. But since he played in the 1930's I have never seen him on film. I found
an old film of
the 1933 World Series which shows Ott hitting a controversial HR. Also Judge
Landis is on
this film clip. I am sure the experts here are very familiar with this HR by
Ott that was
controversial in the 1933 W.S. I uploaded this film clip to my youtube pageso
I could share it
with the group. Nice to finally see one of the greats on my cards, Mel Ott,on
film. I hope you
enjoy this clip too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?vtddCW_FdmnA&featurechannel_page

=================

Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:05:10 EST
To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: 52 unmarked reprints?

i may be wrong, but i seem to remember that there was a reprint set of the
1952 topps set that had no markings or other indications on it that it was a

does anyone have any information on this, or as roger clemens would say, do
i misremember?

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Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:07:23 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Storman <jstorman2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: ANYONE INTERESTED IN SPLITTING A LOT OF HIGH NUMBER 72'S

ANYONE INTERESTED IN SPLITTING A HUGH LOT OF HIGH NUMBER 1972 BASEBALL CARDS? JOHN STORMAN

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:02:17 -0500
From: trufan999@aol.com
Subject: Non sportscards to give out

Slid in with a box of 70's baseball cards are the following and they are up for grabs.

Jaws 2 #25
Elvis (made by Boxcar 1978)? #39
Grease (pink border) #5, 25
The Empire Strikes Back? 34,39,102,117
Star Wars: Blue border # 5, 31,66
Star Wars Red border#106

=================

To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:06:45 -0500
From: typecard@aol.com
Subject: need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Can someone send me a checklist for Hassan animals?

=================

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:46:28 -0800 (PST)
To: typecard@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Me too! My daughter needs it...

Take Care,

From: "typecard@aol.com" <typecard@aol.com>
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:06:45 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Can someone send me a checklist for Hassan animals?

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:55:08 -0500
From: typecard@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

They may be T29s?

-----Original Message-----
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
To: typecard@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Me too!? My daughter needs it...

Take Care,

From: "typecard@aol.com" <typecard@aol.com>
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:06:45 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Can someone send me a checklist for Hassan animals?

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:20:35 -0800 (PST)
To: typecard@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Andy --

I found the link I was looking for:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/526604/message/1226848327/last-1226848593/Re-+Looking+for+Checklists

We were in the process of making her a list but were overcome by events...horse
riding, basketball, drum lessons, boy scouts, school play, etc. Anyway,
I think we'll put her list together this weekend - I think she has about
half of them...

Take Care,

From: "typecard@aol.com" <typecard@aol.com>
To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:55:08 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

They may be T29s?

-----Original Message-----
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_ 90@yahoo. com>
To: typecard@aol. com; obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 7:46 pm
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Me too! My daughter needs it...

Take Care,

From: "typecard@aol. com" <typecard@aol. com>
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:06:45 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] need a checklist for non-sport tobacco

Can someone send me a checklist for Hassan animals?

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:43:37 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikerw7" <mikerw7@gmail.com>
Subject: Jerry Hoover?

A fellow named Jerry Hoover just contacted me about a trade.  Does
anyone know him and/or has traded with him?  He's interested in
pre-war, which means I won't do have much for him.  Happy to pass him
on to someone who might make a good swap.  I know some of you even
care about condition, so this might be up your alley.

Browing over you wantlist...can help you with 65 & 70 high numbers,
70 Munson.  Most of these in the ex-mt or better range.
I use a library computer, so will try and get back with you in a few
days to give specifics.
My current interests:

Pre-War (vg-ex): baseball, boxing,  non-sports, other sports too
Wilmer Mizell (ex): anything except 1954T, 1957T
Oddball Stars (ex or better) ie, 69 color decals, 66 ruboffs, 63
peel-offs (esp. Aaron)

Please let me know if a trade might be possible.

=================

To: OBC Ramblings <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>, <jefreedman1@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:10:56 -0500
From: Bob Reed <boreed@hotmail.com>
Subject: 7th annual OBC NCAA Basketball contest

I'm been running a contest for the NCAA tournament for the past few years and
decided to get an early start this year.  Here are the details:

OBC members get assigned teams in the tournament and if your team wins you get
cards. Of course if
your team loses you send cards.

It works best with 16 participants so respond quickly or you'll have to wait
until next year.  Joel Freedman was unlucky number 17 last year so he gets
priority for this year if he wants to get in.  Let me know Joel.

The way it works is you get one team from each of the 4 brackets. One of
your 4 teams will be a 1-4 seed, one a 5-8 seed, one a 9-12 seed, and one a
13-16 seed. The sum of the four seeds will be 34. For instance you may get
a 2 seed, a 7 seed, a 10 seed, and a 15 seed. Again, if your team wins you
get cards from the owner of the losing team. The owner of the team that
wins the whole thing gets cards from everybody.

Any questions let me know.  Try to get back to me as soon as you can so I can
draw the teams for everybody.  Remember, space is limited to 16 teams sodon't

-Bob R

Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE=85more than just e-mail.
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=================

To: "OBC-Ramblings" <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:06:13 -0600
From: "mzentko" <mzentko@earthlink.net>
Subject: FW: yahoo fantasy baseball league

I set up an offbeat league if anyone wants to jump in

it is pitching only so the draft should not be as long as other ones..

league id is 130397
pw is pitch

draft is sunday night March 8

hope to see you there.

Mark Zentkovich

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:56:26 EST
To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: biggies@aol.com
Subject: thanks JD

Thanks out to JEFF DELOTT for 2 nice 65 Topps hits.

Thanks Jeff,  Bob Bannon
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:43:58 -0800 (PST)
To: OBCRamblings <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
From: EEK <originaleek1@att.net>
Subject: OBCAC

What is the status on the OBCAC election?
"we keep what we give away!"
=================

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:07:23 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: mentor manual

recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID

=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:18:52 -0500
From: Mac Wubben <obcmac@hotmail.com>
Subject: Another one bites the dust!

Another long awaited card arrived courtesy of ebay today...the w555 Lajoie.One
more off of my rarely hit top 5 list!  That's two this year...more than
the last two years I think.  I have yet to add a 5th card after knockingoff
the 38 Lombardi last month...now I'll have to add two.  Probably the 38
G feller (down to 2 on that 'base' set) and maybe the w514 lajoie that I've
seemed to avoid so far.

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To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:57:54 -0500
From: "Ed Schott" <easchott@comcast.net>
Subject: 63 ?

just noticed theres a variation on #54 1963 topps
can anyone tell me what it is
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To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:43:31 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Subject: election news update

Good morning all from rainy Georgia (so much for golf this weekend!),

OBCAC informed me, and I think I passed on the info to you all, that inlight
of a slate of just seven candidates for the OBCAC and Joe Isaac as nominee
for OBCAC Facilitator, that the current board, whose term expires today,
voted to accept the new slate of candidates for 2009-10 without a vote.
Some of you have sent in ballots in the last two or three days, and one or
two asked about the election, so I wanted to give you the final word on it.

New OBCAC board for 2009-10 is as follows:  Larry Gersbach, Mark Holland, Peter
Mead, Mike Rich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben, with Joe Isaac
as Facilitator.

Fr. Pat Wattigny

Election Commissioner

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To: <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:53:51 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" <vrechek@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re:63 ?

The variation on card 54 in the 1963 Topps set is that it says "1963" in
yellow or "1962" in white at the top.

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:10:58 EST
To: Smartalecx@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: directorth@aol.com
Subject: Re:mentor manual

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was
accepted into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy) sent him a very detailed  e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor  to him, who
e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact  his mentor
to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggested he  write an
general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which he  didn't

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to
the Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him. I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personal responsibility from someone applying to be a member of our group.  They
supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read or  respond.
Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding out  about the
servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for  membership in the
first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I've
been doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor
volunteers (for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants),.  The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC  experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just  found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a  while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was  one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a  new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects  could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important  points that need to be passed on to new  members.

**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:18:40 EST
To: DirectorTH@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: mentor manual

thanks tom

perhaps the membership committee ought to look into this guy, see how  active
he has been, and reconsider the decision for him to be accepted.

i find it hard to believe that there have only been 5 OBC mentors since the
club started.  if you mean only five people volunteered when there is no  new
member to mentor, that i can believe.  but i was unaware that you were  having
any difficulty finding a mentor once someone became a member.

i am not sure, but i think when i joined, my mentor was one of the members  i
traded with before i joined.  do we still have a requirement that you do
some trades before you can join?  if so, perhaps one of those members who  made a
trade with the individual can be asked to be the mentor.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,  DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was
accepted into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy) sent him a very detailed  e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor  to him, who
e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he  contact his mentor
to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I  suggested he write an
general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce  himself, which he didn't

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to
the Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from  him. I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should  be some
personal responsibility from someone applying to be a member of  our group. They
supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to  read or respond.
Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just  finding out about the
servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to  apply for membership in the
first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what  I've
been doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the  mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor
volunteers (for current applicants, plus to have a list for future  applicants),. The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly  underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors.  I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our  OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor  someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just  found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a  while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there  was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and  when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their  projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the

important points that need to be passed on to new  members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See  yours in just 2 easy  steps!_
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://w

**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:29:03 EST
To: DirectorTH@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: mentor manual

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank
you, and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time,  DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was
accepted into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy) sent him a very detailed  e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor  to him, who
e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he  contact his mentor
to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I  suggested he write an
general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce  himself, which he didn't

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to
the Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from  him. I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should  be some
personal responsibility from someone applying to be a member of  our group. They
supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to  read or respond.
Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just  finding out about the
servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to  apply for membership in the
first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what  I've
been doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the  mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor
volunteers (for current applicants, plus to have a list for future  applicants),. The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly  underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors.  I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our  OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor  someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just  found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a  while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there  was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and  when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their  projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the

important points that need to be passed on to new  members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. _See  yours in just 2 easy  steps!_
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www

**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID

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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:44:18 -0800 (PST)
To: smartalecx@aol.com, DirectorTH@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Geno Wagner <illini_grad_90@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

Tom --

If you ever need a mentor, I'll help out!

Take Care,

From: "smartalecx@aol.com" <smartalecx@aol.com>
To: DirectorTH@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:29:03 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank you,
and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DirectorTH
I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor to him,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact hismentor
to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggested hewrite
an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.Ibelieve
we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be somepersonalresponsibility
from someone applying to be a member of our group.
They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read orrespond.
Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding out
about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for membership
in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants), . The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:18:05 -0500
From: richard dingman <brightair@msn.com>
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

I have had several 1950s vintage trades with this member, several large, and
all of which have gone well.

I can't recall if he ever thanked me on the server, but I may well have notnoticed.

However, he and I have had no trouble communicating by email, except .... here
is one piece of information that may offer some possible explanation -

Our first few emails were unusual in that whenever I responded to his email,
the email address that came up for him automatically was incorrect, and Iwould
have to manually replace it with his correct address.  After a number
of months, this problem evaporated.  I never understood why it happened, but
I don't expect to comprehend this stuff.  But it presents the potentialthat
anyone unaware of this problem would simply respond to his email and assume
the response was going to the correct address, when it was not.

For what it is worth,

Richard D

To: smartalecx@aol.com; DirectorTH@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:44:18 -0800
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

Tom --

If you ever need a mentor, I'll help out!

Take Care,

From: "smartalecx@aol.com" <smartalecx@aol.com>
To: DirectorTH@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:29:03 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank you,
and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy) sent him a very detailed e-mail,describing
the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor to him,who
e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his mentor
to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggested he write
an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which he
didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him. I believe
we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some personal
responsibility from someone applying to be a member of our group. They
supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read or respond.
Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding out about
the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for membership
in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants), . The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:26:21 -0500
From: Jeff Delott <jdelott@aol.com>
Subject: Thanks Mark

Today's mail brought an envelope from Mark Talbot holding a 1954 Topps Bill Skowron.? Thanks much.

?Jeffrey Delott

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:15:45 +0000 (UTC)
To: directorth@aol.com
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:mentor manual

Hello All,

Thank you Tom for your explanation of the role you play in
welcoming new members and assisting mentors. I think it is important
every now and then to acknowledge the work of the "guys behind the scene"
that help to keep OBC alive and well. So thanks for what you do.
As we discuss the activity or lack there of, of various members on the mail
servers I feel that I must point out that from time to time there are other
circumstances that lend explanation to any given situation, or at least
further things to consider. In this situation please consider the following:
while I conducted the recent membership poll I realized that (4)members,
Gord Ellis, John Storman, Marshall West and Jeff Whitworthwere
not registered with the Announcements mail server soI set them upand
sent the "second" notice out and all (4) of them responded having gotten
the message the second time. When I added the members to the Announcements
server I also added them to all other servers that we generally belong
to.A couple of these members were not set on ANY of the servers,
one of them Gord who recently sent his first Thanks post. WhenGord
wroteabout "just finding out about the servers" he could have
been referring to just getting set up on them and just starting to receive
them in his own mail box. Guys (andGals) it's one of MY "behind
the scenes" jobs to get members set up on the servers, as you can see it
doesn't always go as planned. I have no explanation as to how or why
it took so long to get Gord set up, but it did. Now that he is setup
he is now using the servers as do the rest of us.

We all lead busy lives and from time to time things
don't go as planned. All of the "behind the scenes" guys in OBC, and
there are many, volunteer their time and efforts and as pointed out here make
mistakes from time to time. Rather than rush to judgement perhaps
it's best to get all the facts. That's pretty much all I have to add,other
than the suggestion for a mentor manual will be added tothe
OBCAC monthly discussion (please put that on our agenda Joe) and themembership
at large will be kept informed as to those discussions. BE

REGARDS ------------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: directorth@aol.com
To: Smartalecx@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:10:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:mentor manual

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor tohim,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his
mentor to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggestedhe
write an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personalresponsibility from someone applying to be a member of our
group. They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read
or respond. Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding
out about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for
membership in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants),. The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm prettydisappointed
about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor tohim,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his
mentor to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggestedhe
write an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personalresponsibility from someone applying to be a member of our
group. They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read
or respond. Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding
out about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for
membership in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants),. The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm prettydisappointed
about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

To: <obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com>, "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" <seventytwop@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:43:32 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] election news update

Congrats to the new OBCAC.  We're in good hands.

On Sat 02/28/09  9:43 AM , "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" seventytwop@hotmail.com sent:
> Good morning all from rainy Georgia (so much for golf this
> weekend!),
> OBCAC informed me, and I think I passed on the info to you all,
> that in light of a slate of just seven candidates for the OBCAC and
> Joe Isaac as nominee for OBCAC Facilitator, that the current board,
> whose term expires today, voted to accept the new slate of candidates
> for 2009-10 without a vote.  Some of you have sent in ballots in the
> last two or three days, and one or two asked about the election, so I
> wanted to give you the final word on it.
> New OBCAC board for 2009-10 is as follows:  Larry Gersbach, Mark
> Holland, Peter Mead, Mike Rich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac
> Wubben, with Joe Isaac as Facilitator.
> Fr. Pat Wattigny
> Election Commissioner
> -------------------------
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> ------
> [1]
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Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:28:03 +0000 (UTC)
To: richard dingman <brightair@msn.com>
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

Thank you Richard,

This could be what occurred with the server - perhaps
I did an invite instead of add on the server and the invitation ended up
somewhere in cyberspace. Your experience is just another example ofgetting
all the facts before making a judgement - thanks for chiming in.
BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ----------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: "richard dingman" <brightair@msn.com>
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 2:18:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

I have had several 1950s vintage trades with this member, several large, and
all of which have gone well.
I can't recall if he ever thanked me on the server, but I may well have notnoticed.
However, he and I have had no trouble communicating by email, except .... here
is one piece of information that may offer some possible explanation -
Our first few emails were unusual in that whenever I responded to his email,
the email address that came up for him automatically was incorrect, and Iwould
have to manually replace it with his correct address. Aftera
number of months, this problem evaporated. I never understood why
it happened, but I don't expect to comprehend this stuff. Butit
presents the potential that anyone unaware of this problem would simply respond
to his email and assume the response was going to the correct address,
when it was not.
For what it is worth,
Richard D

To: smartalecx@aol.com; DirectorTH@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:44:18 -0800
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

Tom --

If you ever need a mentor, I'll help out!

Take Care,

From: "smartalecx@aol.com" <smartalecx@aol.com>
To: DirectorTH@aol.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:29:03 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank you,
and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor tohim,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his
mentor to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggestedhe
write an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personalresponsibility from someone applying to be a member of our
group. They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read
or respond. Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding
out about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for
membership in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants), . The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank you,
and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor tohim,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his
mentor to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggestedhe
write an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personalresponsibility from someone applying to be a member of our
group. They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read
or respond. Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding
out about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for
membership in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants), . The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm pretty
disappointed about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:02:41 +0000 (UTC)
To: smartalecx@aol.com
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

Making a reply to the Thanks server is a common courtesy that is observed by
many but I can safely say that not all members use this medium. It has
never been a requirement of membership, nor should it be. I easily
send out 1000+ packages a year (I also belong to VCT and this adds to thenumber
of packages I send), most members who I send something to send me an
acknowledgement but some do not - it's just a fact of life. I don'tlike
it but I get use to it - BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ------------------------ MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: smartalecx@aol.com
To: DirectorTH@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:29:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: mentor manual

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank you,
and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor tohim,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his
mentor to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggestedhe
write an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personalresponsibility from someone applying to be a member of our
group. They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read
or respond. Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding
out about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for
membership in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants),. The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm prettydisappointed
about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

is it an obc requirement to post thanks on the server?

i wonder if the folks who sent this member cards ever got a direct thank you,
and if not, if they ever followed up.

In a message dated 2/28/2009 10:10:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DirectorTH

I believe this was an isolated incident. When the member in question was accepted
into OBC, I (as the New Member Guy)sent him a very detailed e-mail,
describing the servers & received no response; I assigned a mentor tohim,
who e-mailed him & received no response; I also suggested he contact his
mentor to introduce himself, which he apparently didn't do; I suggestedhe
write an general e-mail to the Ramblings server to introduce himself, which
he didn't do.

Neither of us ever heard back from this member, and his recent posting to the
Thanks server was the first message I ever remember seeing from him.I
believe we did everything we could be expected to do; there should be some
personalresponsibility from someone applying to be a member of our
group. They supply us with e-mail addresses, but we can't force them to read
or respond. Frankly, I was shocked when I read his line about "just finding
out about the servers" & was wondering why he even bothered to apply for
membership in the first place.

As far as a "mentor manual" - well, as the New Member Guy, that's what I'vebeen
doing with my "welcome to OBC" e-mail, and my e-mail to the mentors.

Speaking of mentors - I've twice posted e-mails looking for mentor volunteers
(for current applicants, plus to have a list for future applicants),. The
response I've received to these requests has been stunningly underwhelming:
only about 5 OBC members have ever volunteered to be mentors. I'm prettydisappointed
about that; after all, haven't most of us enjoyed our OBC experience?
Shouldn't just about everybody be willing to mentor someone?

My 2 cents.

>>recently, a member posted a thank you, indicating that he just found out
about the thank you server after being a member for a while.

as i thought about it, it seemed to me either he forgot there was one, or
his mentor did not let him know about it.

so, if and when a new obcac is seated for the 09-10 season, perhaps one of
their projects could be a very brief "mentor manual" that would indicate the
important points that need to be passed on to new members.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:34:32 EST
To: talbot1@comcast.net
From: directorth@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:mentor manual

Mark (and everyone)
I've copied & pasted two of Mark's points below in order to point  out - and
apologize for -  my own rush to judgement. Mark, you're right -  things come
up that we aren't aware of, & perhaps I was a bit too harsh in  my earlier
post. I didn't mean offense to anyone - and Mark, I'd like to add  that you do a
fantastic job with the all the complicated inter-webs stuff. I can  plead
fatigue, as I had to be up at 5 am in order to be at a car dealership for  a remote

I shall now punish myself by cutting by finger on a top-loader or a razor
sharp corner of a non-Tipton, or blinding myself temporarily by glaring at a UV

Now, for an actual note about collecting - I managed to find a 1934 Diamond
Star in a bargain bin at a local show today. Now, at this show, that's like
finding real meat in a McDonald's hamburger. I snatched that bad boy up, and am
now the happy owner of a grand total of ONE 1934 Diamond Star. By OBC
definition  it's a type card, but I'm hoping to be able to move it to "collecting
the set"  once National rolls around!

In a message dated 2/28/2009 3:16:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
talbot1@comcast.net writes:

I feel that I must point out that from time to time there are other
circumstances that lend explanation to any given situation, or at least  further
things to consider. <snip>
We all lead busy lives and from time to time  things don't go as planned.
All of the "behind the scenes" guys in OBC,  and there are many, volunteer their
time and efforts and as pointed out here  make mistakes from time to time.
Rather than rush to judgement perhaps  it's best to get all the facts.

**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID

=================

Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:30:43 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "distelrath66" <ryandistelrath@gmail.com>
Subject: my two cents on the mentor manual post

I suppose that you can call me an idiot, but I do not know how to
continue a posting in such a way that you guys manage to.  I have
tried reply via a web post, but that does not seem to work either.
Due to request, I am reposting something that I posted on the message
board.  Without further ado, here is what I posted:

When I had became a member once again, things had changed
drastically since the prodigy days.  I had no clue that there were
thank you, want list, ramblings, etc. servers.  Whenever I would
receive a card, I would send a personal e-mail to whoever sent the
card to me in order to properly thank them.

Come to find out, I had accidentally not been added to the server in
order to receive such e-mails.  A quick e-mail to the right person and
all of a sudden I was added to the mailing list.  everything is
working just fine now.

I am not blaming anybody at all, but it took me around a month or so
to find out about the Yahoo servers all due to a simple human mistake
by not getting added to the list.

I do not know the circumstances surrounding this guy's
predicament,but I would go easy on him.  Human error can sometimes be

Just my two cents worth
Ryan Distelrath

=================

Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:13:20 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper <john@holidayandhobbies.com>
Subject: Big Thanks to OBCAC and Beyond

Hello OBC,

I joined OBC about 8 months ago and have had the time of my Card Collectinglife
since. I am touched by all the sending of cards, the dedication ofthe
members to keep the origins of the group true, and the work that is putin
by many to keep OBC running smooth. The articles that are hosted on thesite
are quality. They enlighten us to many different card sets, collectingand
production of the cards. It's a real joy to read the newly posted articles
and to refer back to the ones that have been there a while.

I want to Thank everyone involved with OBC. The departing OBCACAndy Cook,
Wayne Delia, Joshua Levine, Mike Rich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben,
for taking care of business and volunteering their own time. Thank
you for all you have done. All of the new OBCAC members, Larry Gersbach, Mark
Holland, Peter Mead, MikeRich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben,
welcome and thank you for your willingness to give to the group. Thanks
to Joe Isaac, Father Pat and Tom Housley for their work behind the scenesas
well. And many others whotake care of things without any of us knowing.And
I want to Thank everyone who sends cards out just because. It is a
great feeling finding cards in the mailbox. However I have found it to bean
ever better feeling sending out cards.

Thank you everyone at OBC

John Stamper