================= Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:25:40 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: 2009 HOF - let's vote! I had attempted to send this forwarded message to the Ramblings server but ended up only being a side conversation between Aaron and myself. My choice for HOF is Jim Rice, and reluctantly, Rickey Henderson. > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:05:32 +0000 > From: wayne@deliafamily.net > To: uthminsta@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: 2009 HOF - let's vote! > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "uthminsta1" wrote: > > > > Good news, guys! The Baseball writers have asked for our vote. Just > > kidding... but howzabout we have a mock election anyway? The REAL > > results will be made public on January 12th, so let's say we gotta get > > our votes in by January 10th - that will give you some time to > > research the candidates if you want. Other than that, same basic > > rules apply; you can vote for anywhere from zero to ten of the guys > > listed below. Seventy-five percent of the vote makes them our OBC > > candidate. Any takers? > Yeah, I'll take 'em all. > > 2009 HOF CANDIDATES > > Harold Baines > The only guy to ever have his number retired during his active playing > career. > > Jay Bell > If you list all the people who ever played for the Arizona > Diamondbacks, Jay Bell would be the first name on the list, as he was > their first draft choice in the expansion draft. Only Hornsby, > Sandberg, and Davey Johnson hit more HRs as a 2nd baseman in a single > season. A grand slam he hit in 1999 won a million dollars for a fan > who predicted it. > > Bert Blyleven > Best. Chris. Berman. Baseball. Nickname. Ever. > > David Cone > The only player in major league history to pitch a perfect game for > one team (Yankees), and also come within one pitch of losing to > somebody else's perfect game for the same team (Mussina, in 2001). > > Andre Dawson > Lotsa Gold Gloves, a cannon for an arm, Rookie of the Year, and > amazing batting statistics compiled while playing for the Cubs and > Expos. Sandberg's HOF speech said really good things about him. > > Ron Gant > I think he was the youngest player to have consecutive 30-30 seasons, > and the only other two players to do that were Willie Mays and Bobby > Bonds. > > Mark Grace > Led off the bottom of the ninth inning in WS 2001 Game 7 with a single > off Mariano Rivera, scoring the critical tying run shortly before > Gonzo's humpbacked liner over "Captain Intangibles" (Jeter) won the > Series for the Diamondbacks. > > Rickey Henderson > I think he had the lowest RBI total per home run among complete hot > dogs, which incidentally resulted from his setting the record for most > leadoff HR in a career. Shortly after setting the all-time stolen base > record, he conclusively proved there are more horse's asses than horses. > > Tommy John > He's one of only two major leaguers in history who have had their > names permanently attached to medical conditions or procedures, and > the other one is Lou Gehrig. > > Don Mattingly > The best Yankee player to never have played in a World Series, which > is what I hope all Yankee players eventually do. Donnie Baseball did > it all in 1985, hitting, fielding, and selling popcorn at halftime. > Was so good defensively that his early career had him playing second > base, shortstop, and third base - even though he was lefthanded. A > spectacular cameo appearance on an episode of The Simpsons. > > Mark McGwire > Favorite baseball player of Joseph Delia, age eight, who took his > camera to Shea Stadium in 2001 so he could take a picture of McGwire > running the bases after a home run. I explained to Joe that not even > McGwire hits a home run in every game so don't be disappointed if he > doesn't see one. We get there in time for the first inning, McGwire > batting third for the Cardinals, and he absolutely crushed one over > the left field wall. "Wow! Did you see that, Joe?" and as I turned to > look at him, he was taking the picture he knew he'd be taking. Joe > wore a nice dark red mesh Cardinals McGwire jersey to school for > twenty-two days in a row while the Cards stormed through the playoffs. > > Jack Morris > Probably holds a world record for Most Perfect Games Lost in the Ninth > Inning. Fourth on the all-time list for wild pitches. Devastating > slider, when he could get it over the plate. > > Dale Murphy > Consecutive MVP's, five consecutive gold gloves, seventy-two > consecutive division titles (it seemed), and 740 consecutive games > played. Class act, the face of the Braves for the 1990's, a model > citizen, feared hitter and fielder. > > Jesse Orosco > This guy can rot in hell for throwing his glove in the air sometime in > October, 1986 in Boston. Set a major league standard for being both > the oldest and ugliest player in the major leagues for about five > years running. A rare freak of nature who batted righty, but threw > lefty, which is an indication of severe mental illness. Number 1 on > the all time list of pitching appearances, as he was among the first > to exploit the "left-handed specialist" role, often facing as many as > one batter per game. > > Dave Parker > The Cobra was a pure powerful hitter, once literally "knocking the > cover off the ball" as the seams and cowhide came undone after he hit > a viscous single. Came in third in the National League for cocaine use > in 1979, behind Dale Berra and Keith Hernandez. Was both the victim > and the perpetrator of staggering ignorance: Cincinnati Reds owner > Marge Schott referred to Parker and Eric Davis as "my million-dollar > n*gg*rs," and was seen to wear a Jewish Star of David symbol on a > necklace, which he explained as "My name is David, and I'm a star." > > Dan Plesac > Plesac was the only major league player in history to... oh, who am I > kidding. I got nothing here. > > Tim Raines > Stole 70 bases each of his first six seasons, including 90 in 1983. A > walk to Raines was to concede him third base real soon. Raines and > Henderson were the prototypes of the ultraconditioned, electrifying, > game-changing super-athletic leadoff hitters. > > Jim Rice > The only possible explanation for his super-human strength is that he > must have grown up next to a nuclear reactor. Strong, proud, heroic, > valiant, noble, philanthropic, saintly, reminiscent of a Greek God. > Was one of three Red Sox players to patrol left field on a regular > basis in front of the Green Monster over a period of a half century, > along with Yastrzemski and Williams. Combined with Fred Lynn as "The > Gold Dust Twins," two fabulous rookies who brought such hope and pride > to the Fenway Faithful in the mid-1970's. He's the only player in MLB > history to lead his league in triples, HR, and RBI in the same year. > While not officially retired, the Red Sox uniform number 14 has since > only been worn by Rice during his special coaching appearances. He > literally saved the life of a boy hit by a foul ball off the bat of > Dave Stapleton by carrying him on the field and into the Red Sox > clubhouse for treatment (I am not making this up; as Casey said, you > could look it up). A single HOF plaque does not have sufficient space > to detail all of Rice's accomplishments. Petitions for Rice's election > to the HOF include fans signing "The World's Largest Jim Rice Jersey" > in Pawtucket. If he isn't elected to the HOF, the terrorists have > already won. > > Lee Smith > At one time, he must have legally changed his first name to "Big" > because all baseball announcers would say "Now warming up in the Red > Sox bullpen, Big Lee Smith." He stood seven feet, eight inches tall > and was the first American League relief pitcher since Goose Gossage > to make batters convert religions while in the batter's box. > > Alan Trammell > Terrific defensive shortstop, paired with Sweet Lou Whitaker as a > double play combination for what must have been close to sixty years. > Decent hitter, clutch hitter, despite several different injuries. > Managed the Tigers for a couple years during some lean times in the > early 2000's. The score of Game 4 of the 1984 World Series: Trammell > 4, San Diego 1. > > Greg Vaughn > I think he was the first player to hit 50 home runs in a single season > and finish no better than fourth in his league. Also, he was the first > player to be traded after hitting 50 home runs for his team. Had one > of the highest strikeout to walk ratios - wait, that's a bad thing. > > Mo Vaughn > Prominently mentioned in the Mitchell Report for steroid abusers. By > the time he got to the Mets in 2002, he was pushing 300 pounds. He's > the Adam "PacMan" Jones of MLB, sometimes having off-the-field legal > difficulties arising from behavior problems outside of strip clubs. > Big banger for the mid-1990's Boston Red Sox but couldn't seem to get > along with Dan Duquette or the local sportswriters. Had a history of > freak accidents, if I remember correctly, missing nearly an entire > season for a torn triceps or quadriceps muscle. Wore body armor on his > right arm, which he placed squarely in the strike zone as he took his > batting stance. Nothing to see here, folks, move along. > > Matt Williams > 30 HR, 90 RBI, six times. Original Diamondback, big hitter, steroid > user (actually, HGH). Once married to the hottie in "Blame It On Rio" > who appeared topless even though she was only 16 or 17. I remember him > playing in the Earthquake World Series for the Giants. > > Just thought I would give everyone a chance to really get into what > > they think of the game in recent years, how it has affected our view > > of the best players of the last 2-3 decades, where the cutoff is for > > each of us, etc... > Jim Rice + Steroids = 2374 career home runs. If he doesn't make it in, > I plan on writing a strongly worded letter of complaint to someone. > Best, > WMD Wayne Delia, IBM Master Inventor, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." (Humphrey Bogart) ================= Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:30:45 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Fwd: Re: 2009 HOF - let's vote! Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Here's another forwarded message I had tried to get to the OBC Ramblings server - as much of a black belt as I am on the OBC website, I can't seem to figure out what's going on with the email servers, so that's why we have other people who actually know what they're talking about to take care of that. Mark and I are in no way arguing, in fact, I think that Pete Rose was probably a role model of mine, teaching me the lesson to always hustle, even if it's not important (like a walk to 1st base). And look where that got me: 51 years old and I have trouble getting up off the floor when working on the bathroom tile. So we can certainly "agree to disagree," which I'll probably also have to do with more OBCers who have a different opinion. Hope this shows up OK, if not, I'll take a look at the Yahoo groups website and will need a couple of months to figure it out. Wayne Delia, IBM Master Inventor, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." (Humphrey Bogart) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:26:35 -0500 From: Bob Corvello Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2009 HOF - let's vote! I would vote for Rice, Henderson, and Mattingly. I hate to vote for Yankees, but fair is fair. Bob Corvello -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Delia To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:25 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2009 HOF - let's vote! I had attempted to send this forwarded message to the Ramblings server but ended up only being a side conversation between Aaron and myself. choice for HOF is Jim Rice, and reluctantly, Rickey Henderson. > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:05:32 +0000 > From: wayne@deliafamily.net > To: uthminsta@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: 2009 HOF - let's vote! > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "uthminsta1" > > > > Good news, guys! The Baseball writers have asked for our vote. Just > > kidding... but howzabout we have a mock election anyway? The REAL > > results will be made public on January 12th, so let's say we gotta > > our votes in by January 10th - that will give you some time to > > research the candidates if you want. Other than that, same basic > > rules apply; you can vote for anywhere from zero to ten of the guys > > listed below. Seventy-five percent of the vote makes them our OBC > > candidate. Any takers? > Yeah, I'll take 'em all. > > 2009 HOF CANDIDATES > > Harold Baines > The only guy to ever have his number retired during his active > career. > > Jay Bell > If you list all the people who ever played for the Arizona > Diamondbacks, Jay Bell would be the first name on the list, as he was > their first draft choice in the expansion draft. Only Hornsby, > Sandberg, and Davey Johnson hit more HRs as a 2nd baseman in a single > season. A grand slam he hit in 1999 won a million dollars for a fan > who predicted it. > > Bert Blyleven > Best. Chris. Berman. Baseball. Nickname. Ever. > > David Cone > The only player in major league history to pitch a perfect game for > one team (Yankees), and also come within one pitch of losing to > somebody else's perfect game for the same team (Mussina, in 2001). > > Andre Dawson > Lotsa Gold Gloves, a cannon for an arm, Rookie of the Year, and > amazing batting statistics compiled while playing for the Cubs and > Expos. Sandberg's HOF speech said really good things about him. > > Ron Gant > I think he was the youngest player to have consecutive 30-30 seasons, > and the only other two players to do that were Willie Mays and Bobby > Bonds. > > Mark Grace > Led off the bottom of the ninth inning in WS 2001 Game 7 with a > off Mariano Rivera, scoring the critical tying run shortly before > Gonzo's humpbacked liner over "Captain Intangibles" (Jeter) won the > Series for the Diamondbacks. > > Rickey Henderson > I think he had the lowest RBI total per home run among complete hot > dogs, which incidentally resulted from his setting the record for > leadoff HR in a career. Shortly after setting the all-time stolen > record, he conclusively proved there are more horse's asses than > > Tommy John > He's one of only two major leaguers in history who have had their > names permanently attached to medical conditions or procedures, and > the other one is Lou Gehrig. > > Don Mattingly > The best Yankee player to never have played in a World Series, which > is what I hope all Yankee players eventually do. Donnie Baseball did > it all in 1985, hitting, fielding, and selling popcorn at halftime. > Was so good defensively that his early career had him playing second > base, shortstop, and third base - even though he was lefthanded. A > spectacular cameo appearance on an episode of The Simpsons. > > Mark McGwire > Favorite baseball player of Joseph Delia, age eight, who took his > camera to Shea Stadium in 2001 so he could take a picture of McGwire > running the bases after a home run. I explained to Joe that not even > McGwire hits a home run in every game so don't be disappointed if he > doesn't see one. We get there in time for the first inning, McGwire > batting third for the Cardinals, and he absolutely crushed one over > the left field wall. "Wow! Did you see that, Joe?" and as I turned to > look at him, he was taking the picture he knew he'd be taking. Joe > wore a nice dark red mesh Cardinals McGwire jersey to school for > twenty-two days in a row while the Cards stormed through the > > Jack Morris > Probably holds a world record for Most Perfect Games Lost in the > Inning. Fourth on the all-time list for wild pitches. Devastating > slider, when he could get it over the plate. > > Dale Murphy > Consecutive MVP's, five consecutive gold gloves, seventy-two > consecutive division titles (it seemed), and 740 consecutive games > played. Class act, the face of the Braves for the 1990's, a model > citizen, feared hitter and fielder. > > Jesse Orosco > This guy can rot in hell for throwing his glove in the air sometime > October, 1986 in Boston. Set a major league standard for being both > the oldest and ugliest player in the major leagues for about five > years running. A rare freak of nature who batted righty, but threw > lefty, which is an indication of severe mental illness. Number 1 on > the all time list of pitching appearances, as he was among the first > to exploit the "left-handed specialist" role, often facing as many as > one batter per game. > > Dave Parker > The Cobra was a pure powerful hitter, once literally "knocking the > cover off the ball" as the seams and cowhide came undone after he hit > a viscous single. Came in third in the National League for cocaine > in 1979, behind Dale Berra and Keith Hernandez. Was both the victim > and the perpetrator of staggering ignorance: Cincinnati Reds owner > Marge Schott referred to Parker and Eric Davis as "my million-dollar > n*gg*rs," and was seen to wear a Jewish Star of David symbol on a > necklace, which he explained as "My name is David, and I'm a star." > > Dan Plesac > Plesac was the only major league player in history to... oh, who am I > kidding. I got nothing here. > > Tim Raines > Stole 70 bases each of his first six seasons, including 90 in 1983. A > walk to Raines was to concede him third base real soon. Raines and > Henderson were the prototypes of the ultraconditioned, electrifying, > game-changing super-athletic leadoff hitters. > > Jim Rice > The only possible explanation for his super-human strength is that he > must have grown up next to a nuclear reactor. Strong, proud, heroic, > valiant, noble, philanthropic, saintly, reminiscent of a Greek God. > Was one of three Red Sox players to patrol left field on a regular > basis in front of the Green Monster over a period of a half century, > along with Yastrzemski and Williams. Combined with Fred Lynn as "The > Gold Dust Twins," two fabulous rookies who brought such hope and > to the Fenway Faithful in the mid-1970's. He's the only player in MLB > history to lead his league in triples, HR, and RBI in the same year. > While not officially retired, the Red Sox uniform number 14 has since > only been worn by Rice during his special coaching appearances. He > literally saved the life of a boy hit by a foul ball off the bat of > Dave Stapleton by carrying him on the field and into the Red Sox > clubhouse for treatment (I am not making this up; as Casey said, you > could look it up). A single HOF plaque does not have sufficient space > to detail all of Rice's accomplishments. Petitions for Rice's > to the HOF include fans signing "The World's Largest Jim Rice Jersey" > in Pawtucket. If he isn't elected to the HOF, the terrorists have > already won. > > Lee Smith > At one time, he must have legally changed his first name to "Big" > because all baseball announcers would say "Now warming up in the Red > Sox bullpen, Big Lee Smith." He stood seven feet, eight inches tall > and was the first American League relief pitcher since Goose Gossage > to make batters convert religions while in the batter's box. > > Alan Trammell > Terrific defensive shortstop, paired with Sweet Lou Whitaker as a > double play combination for what must have been close to sixty years. > Decent hitter, clutch hitter, despite several different injuries. > Managed the Tigers for a couple years during some lean times in the > early 2000's. The score of Game 4 of the 1984 World Series: Trammell > 4, San Diego 1. > > Greg Vaughn > I think he was the first player to hit 50 home runs in a single > and finish no better than fourth in his league. Also, he was the > player to be traded after hitting 50 home runs for his team. Had one > of the highest strikeout to walk ratios - wait, that's a bad thing. > > Mo Vaughn > Prominently mentioned in the Mitchell Report for steroid abusers. By > the time he got to the Mets in 2002, he was pushing 300 pounds. He's > the Adam "PacMan" Jones of MLB, sometimes having off-the-field legal > difficulties arising from behavior problems outside of strip clubs. > Big banger for the mid-1990's Boston Red Sox but couldn't seem to get > along with Dan Duquette or the local sportswriters. Had a history of > freak accidents, if I remember correctly, missing nearly an entire > season for a torn triceps or quadriceps muscle. Wore body armor on > right arm, which he placed squarely in the strike zone as he took his > batting stance. Nothing to see here, folks, move along. > > Matt Williams > 30 HR, 90 RBI, six times. Original Diamondback, big hitter, steroid > user (actually, HGH). Once married to the hottie in "Blame It On Rio" > who appeared topless even though she was only 16 or 17. I remember > playing in the Earthquake World Series for the Giants. > > Just thought I would give everyone a chance to really get into what > > they think of the game in recent years, how it has affected our > > of the best players of the last 2-3 decades, where the cutoff is > > each of us, etc... > Jim Rice + Steroids = 2374 career home runs. If he doesn't make it > I plan on writing a strongly worded letter of complaint to someone. > Best, > WMD Wayne Delia, IBM Master Inventor, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz." (Humphrey ================= Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:28:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "jimbo777777" Subject: Larsen Perfect Game! Time Warner came through for me, after stringing me alone for weeks, they finally announced that they'd be carrying the mlb network the day before launch. I don't know why they insist on torturing their customers with this last-minute approach every time, but they did come So, did anybody else watch the Larsen Perfect Game last night? I enjoyed it very much. Mel Allen and Vin Scully did a great job with the commentary, totally old school. The umpires were calling the book strike zone, the batters didn't step out, spit, preen and scratch themselves after every pitch. The Gillette commercials between innings were short and sweet, and pretty darn entertaining in and of themselves. And oh yeah, the game was pretty good too. :) ================= Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:14:49 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall of Famers-closes in 3 days I found a good lot of over 100 1952-1956 cards on ebay with Hall of Famers. Also the seller has 100% positive feedback. ebay #250349650507 http://tinyurl.com/9gmdd7 ================= Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:41:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: An idea for youtube If no one has done this on youtube then I think OBC should do it! I like old jazz recordings. On youtube people put on videos consisting of a picture of a label of an old jazz 78 record with the music on the record playing. Here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v8CNOq-Yq_Fk&featurerelated Ok guys, here's my idea- Isn't there a member who has old recordings of baseball songs? Well wouldn't it be a great idea to do the same thing with images of t206 cards and old baseball recordings? I don't know how to upload a video to youtube but I am sure there is someone here who does. Why not make a video to upload to youtube of an old baseball recording with images of old tobacco cards with the Youtube has members. Why not have OBC become a member and then members here can scan their tobacco cards and other members with old baseball recordings get together and make a video to upload to youtube. If it has been done for old jazz recordings with pics of 78 record labels it can be done with baseball tobacco cards and old baseball Someone here at OBC can create a new member at youtube with "OBC" as the member id. Let's get going on this idea guys! ================= To: , Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:38:03 -0800 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Larsen Perfect Game! I don't get that channel, but I sure remember the game! It was Monday, October 8, 1956 -- one week before my 12th birthday. I had a paper route and with the proceeds I had spent a FORTUNE on a small transistor radio. Back in those days a lot of World Series games were day games.The weekend before Larson's game I got a brainstorm and went to the Goodwill to buy the largest book I could find. I spent a lot of time hollowing out a space for my radio inside the book so I could smuggle it into school with the intent of listening to the game. I found that if I had the volumeon low I could hear the radio and by pressing hard on the cover the sound was inaudible. Monday, the book, radio, and I showed up for 7th grade at Sharples Junior High School in Seattle. I kept the volume low and with my ear on the book, hunched over my desk. Whenever a teacher walked close I would just press on the cover to silence the radio until the teacher was out of range. Man did I feel clever! I listened for a long time and nobody was the wiser. I think it was the middle of the game when the bell rang in one of my classes. I picked up my book/radio and was headed out of the roomfor my next class when the teacher called me back. "Yes, I responded, with the most innocent look I could muster. "David", the teacher said, "what's the score?" Some teachers are just better than others. -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: jimbo777777 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:28 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Larsen Perfect Game! Time Warner came through for me, after stringing me alone for weeks, they finally announced that they'd be carrying the mlb network the day before launch. I don't know why they insist on torturing their customers with this last-minute approach every time, but they did come So, did anybody else watch the Larsen Perfect Game last night? I enjoyed it very much. Mel Allen and Vin Scully did a great job with the commentary, totally old school. The umpires were calling the book strike zone, the batters didn't step out, spit, preen and scratch themselves after every pitch. The Gillette commercials between innings were short and sweet, and pretty darn entertaining in and of themselves. And oh yeah, the game was pretty good too. :) ================= Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 15:56:59 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, jimbo777777 , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Larsen Perfect Game! Dave -- Awesome story! I had a similar experience in 1984 when I bought and thendismantled the headphones on a new walkman. It was hot and humid out, but I wore a long sleeve shirt to school for the Cubs - Padres series. I got totally busted in the library when Sutcliffe hit a home run and I yelled! Luckily, the librarian gave it back when the bell rang...the Cubs hitsomething like 5 home runsthat day! Take Care, --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Dave Fallen wrote: From: Dave Fallen Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Larsen Perfect Game! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "jimbo777777" Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 4:38 PM I don't get that channel, but I sure remember the game! It was Monday, October 8, 1956 -- one week before my 12th birthday. I had a paper route and with the proceeds I had spent a FORTUNE on a small transistor radio. Back in those days a lot of World Series games were day games. The weekend before Larson's game I got a brainstorm and went to theGoodwill to buy the largest book I could find. I spent a lot of time hollowing out a space for my radio inside the book so I could smuggle it intoschool with the intent of listening to the game. I found that if I had the volume on low I could hear the radio and by pressing hard on the cover the sound was inaudible. Monday, the book, radio, and I showed up for 7th grade at Sharples Junior High School in Seattle. I kept the volume lowand with my ear on the book, hunched over my desk. Whenever a teacher walked close I would just press on the cover to silence the radio until the teacher was out of range. Man did I feel clever! I listened for a long time and nobody was the wiser. I think it was the middle of the game when the bell rang in one of my classes. I picked up my book/radio and washeaded out of the room for my next class when the teacher called me back. "Yes, I responded, with the most innocent look I could muster. "David", the teacher said, "what's the score?" Some teachers are just better than others. -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: jimbo777777 To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:28 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Larsen Perfect Game! Time Warner came through for me, after stringing me alone for weeks, they finally announced that they'd be carrying the mlb network the day before launch. I don't know why they insist on torturing their customers with this last-minute approach every time, but they did come So, did anybody else watch the Larsen Perfect Game last night? I enjoyed it very much. Mel Allen and Vin Scully did a great job with the commentary, totally old school. The umpires were calling the book strike zone, the batters didn't step out, spit, preen and scratch themselves after every pitch. The Gillette commercials between innings were short and sweet, and pretty darn entertaining in and of themselves. And oh yeah, the game was pretty good too. :) ================= To: Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:43:42 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Question for the New Yorkers A question for the Yankee / Met fans in the group My friends and I usually make a pilgrimage to see a Red Sox game one weekend a year. This week we are thinking of going to NYC to see either the new Yankee Stadium or the New Met's ballpark. We will probably go in August or September. The Mets/Yankee web site both only show season ticket sales. I assume single game tickets will go on sale later in the year? Any idea on what availability of tickets will be like in the first year of both ================= To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:03:11 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Happy New Year - a washed up tale. Hello All, I hope all are enjoying the new year of 2009. I have been out of the loop for a short while and thought I would chime in. Like so many here I was very busy most of last week with preparations for Christmas and all. We spent Christmas Eve with friends after Mass, Christmas day with my family at my brothers home, Friday I spent some time with OBC'er Mike Rich and Ron Perry at the Motor City Bowl, and Saturday with my wife Donna's family here in our Sterling Heights home. As we said our goodbye's Saturday evening I looked forward to a few days of R&R, perhaps some work on my hobby and getting out my final birthday cards for the year - Mother Nature had a different idea!!! Late Saturday night, early Sunday morning we were hit by a bad windstorm and lost our power. Not thinking much of it and enjoying an unusual 50+ degree night we simply went to bed, bundled up and hoped that DTE Energy would work with miraculous speed and get us up and running again. Sunday brought continued power failure so I got a fire going in the fireplace as the outdoor temperatures were dropping quickly and it was getting cold. About mid-day I grabbed the flashlight and took a trip to the basement to get something for my daughter Kendall and found that the loss of power affected the sump pump and I had about 2" of water in the basement. The combination of a couple feet of snow over the past few weeks and a dramatic thaw raised that water table and of course caused the wet basement problem that would take away any hope of a few days of R&R. I spent the next 3 hours carrying things upstairs, primarily Partylite product that my wife had me store in the basement - she wa s understandably upset to see the entire downstairs bathroom filled with wet boxes that were now going to dry out for a few days. Most of my collection was safe (it is stored in the basement, but in binders and on shelves) but I was to find damage to some items that I had on the floor. We were still out of power most of Monday and regained service early Monday evening sometime. By this time both Kendall and Donna were miserable and cheered with great delight when lights went on and the furnace kicked on again. Within moments the sump pump did its job and the water was gone in the basement and I began the job of cleaning up in the aftermath. I recovered a 1600 count box of `50's and `60's non-sport stuff that got pretty wet and a small box of UV stuff that could have been sent to Bob Bannon but are now part of the 30+ garbage bags that have filled the garage. I will be working with the non sport stuff to salvage anything I can as there was some cool stuff in that box. I finally got done with the clean-up today about dinnertime and was able to open up the emails from the past week or so and relax doing that. If anyone tried to email me Saturday, Sunday or Monday there is a chance that I did not receive that email as my box "overflowed" and some email was bounced back. You may want to email me again if I have failed to respond by now. For those of you out there with an end of the year, or beginning of the year birthday - your cards will hit the post soon as they were not sent due to my preoccupation with wet things. I have a number of people to acknowledge for incoming cardboard and will get to that next in probably another rambling type journal, so be on the lookout. Finally, I just received an eBay purchase today which was a Christmas gift to myself and makes me an official `52 Topps HI number collector with (2) specimens from that most difficult of Topps Series. I spent a few minutes reading the bios and enjoying the additions to my collection and then thought of all of you. Despite the mess I had the past few days the thought of looking through old cardboard and enjoying a little R&R with them is still one of life’s simple pleasures that we all share. I hope you all are blessed this coming year with health and happiness for you and yours - BE WELL and Happy New Year!!! REGARDS -------------------------------- MARK ================= To: "obc" Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:08:08 -0600 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Updated 69' Topps Football separated wants and extras..............List I discovered after I put my latest additions to my 69' separated 4 in 1's set to bed......I found some "dreaded" card gremlins............. So I have enclosed my NEW updated Wants....................... Please check for me........ 1969' Topps separated 4 in 1's. Listed 05-05-07. Barnes,Biletnikoff,Casey,Dowler,Pete Gogolak,Hayes,Herman, Hill,Lindsey,O'Bradovich,Starr,Unitas,Wood,Larry Wilson. I still have a bunch of extras............so don't be afraid to ask.....send me your wants............ Ken Goetsch 16 Parkview Lane Watertown, Wi. 53094 ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 12:49:47 -0500 From: "ant" Subject: Philly card show update (ft washington) I did hear it was moving out of reading and found this: http://www.phillyshow.org/ http://www.huntauctions.com/hunt.html ================= Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:41:49 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: OBC-HOF vote update Hey everyone. Happy new year, indeed! I have successfully navigated the treacherous waters of reformatting my hard drive... then reinstalling windows, internet, microsoft office, etc. I now have a pretty good computer! And it all started because my DVDrom just stopped working. Anyway... So now it's back to the HOF voting game. Right now there are 30+ voters who have submitted their ballots to be counted. I need to get those tallies updated, and I will post the running totals later today. Seven days to go! There was a lot of discussion on Pete Rose, so I am clarifying this by saying: if you wish to vote for Pete Rose (or Joe Jackson or anyone else as a write-in), you may. If you've already voted, just email me and I will add him/them to your ballot. ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:01:52 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: 2008 "Year in Review" I always enjoy the "Year in Review" posts. I sent a bunch of cardboard my nephew's way who became interested in old cardboard when his dad found a stack of 72T football cards. In terms of hits, it was a farily modest year. Here is an overview: Total hits: 158 2009 Goal: 228 hits Sets completed: 1963F Sets to complete for 2009: 53 Color Bowman (2 to go), 65 Topps (12 to go) Best hit of the year: Tipton M101-5 Honus Wagner 2009 big hit goal: Lou Gehrig or Cy Young OBC'ers to thank: Peter Mead (Type), Jim Hatch (HOF), Greg Conway (Set), Mark Talbot x2 (Set), Aaron Shirley (Type), John Stamper (Type), Spike Glidden (Type), Wubben (HOF) ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:09:58 -0500 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: next Philly Show The Philly Show March 13-15, 2009 at the Valley Forge, PA Convention Center ================= Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:15:47 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: HOF update... 30 ballots are in. This didn't take as long as I thought. The leaders' running totals: 90% Rickey Henderson (27 of 30 votes) 53% Jim Rice (16 votes) 40% Bert Blyleven (12 votes) 37% Andre Dawson (11 votes) 23% Jack Morris (7 votes) By the way, Pete Rose has 4 votes so far. I am still working on my ballot. Looking at those with no votes so far, Mark Grace is the only one I would have guessed to have gotten a vote by now - but he's not getting one from me. ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 14:31:31 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: CRAZY QUESTION XBOX Hello all, I have a crazy question and i figured this would be the place to start a search. 2 years ago I bought my sons XBOX 360 well 2 days ago it fried NICE a $400 system lasts a whole 2 yrs...I called on my warranty and of course it expired 2 weeks ago. My question Does anyone in the group have an old XBOX 360 that they don't use that they would be willing to sell? if so let me know if you do and how much you would like for the system. Geeze 2 yrs My old NINTENDO that's 20 yrs old still works and it was $199 Rob "The FIREMAN" **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:28:26 -0500 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: larsens gem Guys and Girl just finished viewing Donald James Larsens Perfect World Series outing It will give you chills even if your not a Yanks fan MLB Network and Costas did a great job also the interview with Don and Yogi was wonderful good stuff I highly recommend ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:06:09 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: 16704 This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cardsin the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever ================= To: , Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:38:34 -0500 From: "Jim Beauchemin" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I have the complete Topps run, 1951-2008. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:44:41 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: larrygers@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I never took the time to count until now. I need 308 cards to finish the 1951 thru 1980 Topps run. That includes 74 blue & red back 1951 cards. 1952 is the most short with 141 cards, 93 hi #'s. 1954-Aaron RC, 1958-Aparicio, 1959-Gibson, 1968-Ryan RC are all one card short of complete. I would never have gotten this close without the great support of OBC. In a message dated 1/3/2009 6:07:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, familytoad@comcast.net writes: This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite players. Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1953,1960,1(Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:32:11 EST To: familytoad@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I need 65 1952 high numbers plus variation to complete In a message dated 1/3/2009 5:07:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, familytoad@comcast.net writes: This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite players. Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1953,1960,1(Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:36:01 EST To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, LARRYGERS@aol.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 206 not counting variations. **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ================= To: , Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:37:21 -0500 From: "Jim Beauchemin" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I should have added that I didn't get into a lot of variations, although I did get all of the 1952 Topps blackbacks. ----- Original Message ----- From: biggies@aol.com To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net ; LARRYGERS@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 206 not counting variations. New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. ================= Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:12:20 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: Re: 16704 I am missing... ummm... 5,818 cards to complete a 1951-1980 run. And no, that's not including variations. :( So I guess one of my 2009 goals will be to get it under 5,000. Pretty ambitious? I'm still missing 422 cards from the 1963 set, and 393 cards from 1965; on the other end of the spectrum, I am 5 cards from finishing 1973 and 90 cards from finishing 1969. ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:57:17 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 Well OBC, Very Impressive numbers by all who have posted. I keep track of how many I am missing from the 51-80 set. My count is at 5095 I have completed 1 vintage set since joining OBC in June 2008, the 1978Tset. I have completed 1970, 1973-1978 and getting very close on 5 others. 1980 (4), 1979 (45), 1971 (59), 1969 (19), 1966 (14) Perhaps after a decade or sowith OBC I will bedown there with many completed sets and low triple digits to finish the runs. What an accomplishment for those of you who have completed the run and for those who are within striking distance...Gersh, BB, Peter Mead, and a few others. Greta Job! John Stamper --- On Sat, 1/3/09, hoot_owl1@verizon.net wrote: From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 To: larrygers@aol.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 3:53 PM My count is pretty close to Gersh's. I am at 325 for a 1951 to 1980 run.I have actually kept track of the number at the beginning of my want list. Main culprits are1952--at 226 cards including all of those high numbers, 1953 at 34 (after I send Mac some dealer scum $ for a Yogi Berra) and 1961 also at 34 (all high numbers with the exception of Larson's perfect game, Marichal's rookie, and two MVP cards--Berra and Campy). Only one set is at one card--1963 Rose rookie. I also have sets that need two cards (54), three cards (56) and four cards (55 and 57). I don't think I had finished any sets prior to OBC. Peter Mead Jan 3, 2009 05:44:53 PM, larrygers@aol. com wrote: I never took the time to count until now. I need 308 cards to finish the 1951 thru 1980 Topps run. That includes 74 blue & red back 1951 cards. 1952 is the most short with 141 cards, 93 hi #'s. 1954-Aaron RC, 1958-Aparicio, 1959-Gibson, 1968-Ryan RCare all one card short of complete. I would never have gotten this close without the great support of OBC. In a message dated 1/3/2009 6:07:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, familytoad@comcast. net writes: This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cardsin the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only afew complete : 1953,1960,1972, 1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. ================= Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:58:20 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: but hold on... I should say that I have done this every year or two, and I found a few of those old files on my computer: June 2003, missing 12,303 cards. April 2004, missing 11,157 cards. ***THEN I JOINED OBC DECEMBER 2005*** Feb. 2008, missing 6565 cards. Jan. 2009, missing 5818 cards. I wish I had some more checkpoints in between, but it's safe to say that my vintage collection has grown by leaps and bounds, nay EXPLOSIONS, since joining this group. I didn't even HAVE a 1951 or 1952 Topps card until OBC. ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 18:15:00 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] A few short lists 200 vintage Baseball sets, now that's a huge amount. What an accomplishment! I just counted all my completed sets including Non-Sport and UV and the total is 179 Break down: Baseball Vintage: 19 (only 181 to catch Mike) Non-Sport Vintage: 9 Baseball UV: 130 Non-Sport UV: 21 John Stamper --- On Sat, 1/3/09, mikesportsfan wrote: From: mikesportsfan Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] A few short lists To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 7:10 AM I had hoped to finish off a few sets last year. I came close to these, but was unable to put them to bed. Naturally I will do my best to provide generous paybacks. 1978 Burger King Yankees: 1 Martin 2 Munson 17 Stanley 21 Jackson 1980 Burger King Phillies: 4 Rose 1978 Papa Gino Discs: 12 Stanley 14 Rice 19 Lynn 1971 Milk Dud's (cut from box or whole box): Aaron Kessinger Perez Sanguillen Santo 1951 Topps Blue Backs: 6 Schoendienst 50 Mize 51 Waitkus 1969 Topps BB Stamps: Beckert Sutton 1962 Stat Back Exhibits: Aparicio Banks Colavito 1963 GAD Fun Cards: 43 46 52 61 68 I am closing in on having 200 different vintage BB sets complete. These would put me over the top. Mike Rich 26020 Radclift Pl Oak Park, MI 48237 ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:36:59 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I am impressed as well that some have such great collections. Nice job, you Out of around this 16,704 I think I am down to about 2800 to go, but I am not even going to try for the 1952 high numbers, at least not until my girlfriend actually does win the lottery, so that leaves about 2700. However, I have been working on many variations and am well along on some sets. A quick adding of the total number of cards in this run's (1952 - 1980) master sets (according to Shawn Adkins online database) gives 17,826. This would include a modest number of what he charitably calls NPDs (notable printdifferences), in which not everyone, not even all variation collectors (meaning, not even me), is interested. So perhaps I am aiming for around 17,500 different cards for the run. Counting those variations that I am tryingto collect, I would then need something around 3000. I am therefore in the ballpark, so to speak, of about 83% of the way to my goal. I wonder how many folks are working on some variation of "master" sets for this This is a fun topic for collectors. It might be fun to have a place on thewebsite for us to periodically update, maybe monthly or each January 1 or whenever, our "Cards Left in Run" number, so all the rest of us can enjoy the Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: john@holidayandhobbies.comDate: Sat,3 Jan 2009 17:57:17 -0800Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 Well OBC, Very Impressive numbers by all who have posted. I keep track of how many I am missing from the 51-80 set. My count is at 5095 I have completed 1 vintage set since joining OBC in June 2008, the 1978Tset. I have completed 1970, 1973-1978 and getting very close on 5 others.1980 (4), 1979 (45), 1971 (59), 1969 (19), 1966 (14) Perhaps after a decade or so with OBC I will be down there with many completed sets and low triple digits to finish the runs. What an accomplishment for those of you who have completed the run and for those who are within striking distance...Gersh, BB, Peter Mead, and a few others. Greta Job! John Stamper --- On Sat, 1/3/09, hoot_owl1@verizon.net wrote: From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704To: larrygers@aol.comCc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comDate: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 3:53 PM My count is pretty close to Gersh's. I am at 325 for a 1951 to 1980 run. Ihave actually kept track of the number at the beginning of my want list. Main culprits are1952--at 226 cards including all of those high numbers, 1953 at 34 (after I send Mac some dealer scum $ for a Yogi Berra) and 1961 also at 34 (all high numbers with the exception of Larson's perfect game, Marichal's rookie, and two MVP cards--Berra and Campy). Only one set is at one card--1963 Rose rookie. I also have sets that need two cards (54), three cards (56) and four cards (55 and 57). I don't think I had finished any sets prior to OBC. Peter MeadJan 3, 2009 05:44:53 PM, larrygers@aol. com wrote: I never took the time to count until now. I need 308 cards to finish the 1951 thru 1980 Topps run. That includes 74 blue & red back 1951 cards. 1952 is the most short with 141 cards, 93 hi #'s. 1954-Aaron RC, 1958-Aparicio, 1959-Gibson, 1968-Ryan RC are all one card short of complete. I would never have gotten this close without the great support of OBC. In a message dated 1/3/2009 6:07:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, familytoad@comcast. net writes: This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cardsin the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972, 1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. ================= To: , Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 02:53:27 +0000 From: LYONS RONI Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I'm at 1990 to finish not counting variations. I add the variations when the set is close to completion right now I have the 59 and 60 set listed soonI'll added the 62. I also will probably never try to do 52 high's but someday add back variations of the 50's sets as they get closer to being done.Rick To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: familytoad@comcast.netDate: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:06:09 -0800Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cardsin the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever ================= To: , "Brian Lindholme" Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:55:34 -0500 From: obcjohn@knology.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I'm at 1433 to finish the 52-80 run. On Sat 01/ 3/09 6:06 PM , "Brian Lindholme" familytoad@comcast.net sent: > 16704 This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its > close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of > regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this > number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your > math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, > favorite teams and favorite players. Let's see how many of us are > trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? > How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I > have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. > (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? 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From: richard dingman To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 9:36:59 PM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 I am impressed as well that some have such great collections. Nice job, you Out of around this 16,704 I think I am down to about 2800 to go, but I am not even going to try for the 1952 high numbers, at least not until my girlfriend actually does win the lottery, so that leaves about 2700. However, I have been working on many variations and am well along on some sets. A quick adding of the total number of cards in this run's (1952 - 1980) master sets (according to Shawn Adkins online database) gives 17,826. This would include a modest number of what he charitably calls NPDs (notable print differences) , in which not everyone, not even all variation collectors (meaning, not even me), is interested. So perhaps I am aiming for around17,500 different cards for the run. Counting those variations that I amtrying to collect, I would then need somethingaround 3000.I am therefore in the ballpark, so to speak,of about 83% of the way to my goal. I wonder how many folks are working on some variation of "master" sets for this This is a fun topic for collectors. It might be fun to have a place on the website for us to periodically update, maybe monthly or each January 1 or whenever,our "Cards Left in Run" number, so all the rest of us can enjoy the progress. Richard D To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com From: john@holidayandhobb ies.com Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 17:57:17 -0800 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 Well OBC, Very Impressive numbers by all who have posted. I keep track of how many I am missing from the 51-80 set. My count is at 5095 I have completed 1 vintage set since joining OBC in June 2008, the 1978Tset. I have completed 1970, 1973-1978 and getting very close on 5 others. 1980 (4), 1979 (45), 1971 (59), 1969 (19), 1966 (14) Perhaps after a decade or sowith OBC I will bedown there with many completed sets and low triple digits to finish the runs. What an accomplishment for those of you who have completed the run and for those who are within striking distance...Gersh, BB, Peter Mead, and a few others. Greta Job! John Stamper --- On Sat, 1/3/09, hoot_owl1@verizon. net wrote: From: hoot_owl1@verizon. net Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 To: larrygers@aol. com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 3:53 PM My count is pretty close to Gersh's. I am at 325 for a 1951 to 1980 run.I have actually kept track of the number at the beginning of my want list. Main culprits are1952--at 226 cards including all of those high numbers, 1953 at 34 (after I send Mac some dealer scum $ for a Yogi Berra) and 1961 also at 34 (all high numbers with the exception of Larson's perfect game, Marichal's rookie, and two MVP cards--Berra and Campy). Only one set is at one card--1963 Rose rookie. I also have sets that need two cards (54), three cards (56) and four cards (55 and 57). I don't think I had finished any sets prior to OBC. Peter Mead Jan 3, 2009 05:44:53 PM, larrygers@aol. com wrote: I never took the time to count until now. I need 308 cards to finish the 1951 thru 1980 Topps run. That includes 74 blue & red back 1951 cards. 1952 is the most short with 141 cards, 93 hi #'s. 1954-Aaron RC, 1958-Aparicio, 1959-Gibson, 1968-Ryan RCare all one card short of complete. I would never have gotten this close without the great support of OBC. In a message dated 1/3/2009 6:07:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, familytoad@comcast. net writes: This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cardsin the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only afew complete : 1953,1960,1972, 1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. ================= Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 03:14:36 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: Re: 16704 When I joined OBC, I don't believe I had any vintage sets done. I have since finished 74-80 as well as the 74 and 76 traded sets, and the 74 team checklists (1 and 2 star varieties). Very few of those cards were actually purchased. So to say *I* have finished them is not correct at all. OBC finished them. But how do you not have the late 70's done? This must be remedied!!! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, EEK wrote: > All this talk about completed sets got me to wondering if I amthe only OBCer whodoes not havea single completed Topps regular edition vintage set? ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:52:20 -0800 (PST) To: uthminsta1 , From: EEK Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 16704 Actually I did at one time have the complete 78 & 79 sets, but over a period of time traded them for Tigers I needed. I recently added the 58 and 72 sets to my wantlist and if / when I complete one of them I may add another set. From: uthminsta1 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 10:14:36 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 16704 When I joined OBC, I don't believe I had any vintage sets done. I have since finished 74-80 as well as the 74 and 76 traded sets, and the 74 team checklists (1 and 2 star varieties). Very few of those cards were actually purchased. So to say *I* have finished them is not correct at all. OBC finished them. But how do you not have the late 70's done? This must be remedied!!! --- In OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com, EEK wrote: > All this talk about completed sets got me to wondering if I amthe only OBCer whodoes not havea single completed Topps regular edition vintage set? ================= Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 22:48:37 -0600 To: Brian Lindholme From: Yaz Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 1367, which looks like about 8.18% to go. Completed '65 and '68 thru '80. Closest to complete, 1960, eight to go. Greg (yaz) Brian Lindholme wrote: > 16704 > This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. > Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps > cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the > top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) > So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and > favorite players. > Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. > And how far along are you? How many are done? > Here's mine : > I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : > 1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) > Whaddy say? > OBC Forever > Brian ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:05:57 +0000 From: John Scott Gray Subject: Re: 16704 My friends, I have been keeping track of my Topps run for the last five years. For the51-80 run I currently need 181 cards (with over half of those -- 91 -- being from the 52 set). The second furthest set is the 51 Blue backs (29 away), and I am closest, down to just one card, in the 55 set (some guy named Clemente). My first total when I started keeping track is dated May 15, 2002, and that was 3830. I dropped below a thousand sometime before September 26 of 2003, and below 500 right before August 26 of 2004. After that, things slowed down a bit (and for good reason!) Interestingly enough, when Icombine my Topps run with my Bowman run, I am at exactly 500 cards from completion (in neither case not counting variations!) What fun its been! Be happy, John Scott Gray 16704This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close.Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel freeto post the total in your math:)So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite players.Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done?Here's mine :I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete :1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979and 1980)Whaddy say?OBC ForeverBrian ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:14 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re:16704 I need 9 cards - and have needed just them for at least 10 years: 7 of the 52 high$ and the rookie $eaver and Ro$e cards. Ten years from now I'll still need 9 cards. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 21:33:18 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Stamper Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 Well OBC, That's something to look forward to! Congratulations on making it this far. John Stamper --- On Sat, 1/3/09, George Vrechek wrote: From: George Vrechek Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 9:26 PM I need 9 cards =96 and have needed just them for at least 10 years: 7 of the 52 high$ and the rookie $eaver and Ro$e cards. Ten years from now I=92ll still need 9 cards. George Vrechek ================= To: , Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:52:22 -0500 From: richard dingman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 That's something I have wondered ... how do advanced members of trading groups progress when they seem to be beyond the ability of the group to assist? Perhaps it is something beyond the ability of the trading groups to address. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: vrechek@ameritech.netDate: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:14 -0600Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 I need 9 cards =96 and have needed just them for at least 10 years: 7 of the 52 high$ and the rookie $eaver and Ro$e cards. Ten years from now I=92ll still need 9 cards. George Vrechek ================= To: , Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 01:48:39 -0500 From: "Jim Beauchemin" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 There's always something to collect, believe me. I branched out into Kelloggs, Post, Exhibits and Bowmans, among others. There's so much great stuffout there, I can't imagine progressing to the point where one has nothing to ----- Original Message ----- From: richard dingman To: vrechek@ameritech.net ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:52 AM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 That's something I have wondered ... how do advanced members of trading groups progress when they seem to be beyond the ability of the group to assist? Perhaps it is something beyond the ability of the trading groups to address. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:14 -0600 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 I need 9 cards =96 and have needed just them for at least 10 years: 7 of the 52 high$ and the rookie $eaver and Ro$e cards. Ten years from now I=92ll still need 9 cards. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:25:26 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Chris Stufflestreet" Subject: Re: 16704 I need 3789 for the 51-80 run. It's listed at the top of my wantlist, with my Bowman number (somewhere around 1600) right below it. My Topps sets are complete for 1973-'80 including the '74 and '76 traded sets (and '74 is essentially complete except for three variations), and most of my '68-'71 sets are in double digits. I'm 10 cards away from having a 1955 Topps set (only HOFers left on that one). I'm a long way off on most 1959-'66 sets because I haven't focused on them. I'm actually surprised how short my '57 set is, that one crept up on me. I have two 1952 high #s (Hearn and Serena) and can only dream about doubling that number anytime soon. '74 is the only set where I collect variations, and that's only because I won an eBay lot once where the seller tossed in about half the Washington cards and since I already had the Alou No Position I said what the heck... I began counting down how many cards I need for the run shortly before joining OBC in 2002. At that point, I needed around 10,000. In less than 2 years, I attended my first National (2004 Cleveland) needing close to 6000. OBC is most of the reason I cut that list down as dramatically as I did. Good topic, Brian! Take care, ================= Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:29:20 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Rick Johnson" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 My count for the 1952-1980 Topps run is now at 197 but has pretty much hit the skids. The list includes 171 1952's including all of the high numbers. The remainder is a smattering of high number 53's and a few mid priced cards from 1954 and 1956. I just can't justify stepping into the high number 52's which means I really can't make a lot more progress. This fact has led me into old Bowman's, football and even I hate leaving a job unfinished, but those 52 high numbers are just to big of an obstacle. Rick Johnson ================= To: "Brian Lindholme" , Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:06:22 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704 Hello All, I like to look at my Topps run at the end of the year to see just how well my quest is coming along. A few years back I use to post my Topps quest about every 2-3 months in hopes of whittling the number down. Well, that doesn't work so well any more as I am down to needing 230 cards, which are broken down as follows: 1951 TOPPS RED BACKS (8) 1951 TOPPS BLUE BACKS (36) 1951 TOPPS TEAMS (9) 1952 TOPPS (111) 1953 TOPPS (20) 1955 TOPPS (8) 1956 TOPPS (6) 1957 TOPPS (11) 1960 TOPPS (2) 1961 TOPPS (7) 1963 TOPPS (3) 1966 TOPPS (9) If you add in the variations I have listed on my want list which total 122 cards I down to a total of 352 cards to go for base set and variations. That means that my collection has come quite a ways since I started in OBC. Over the past few years my quest has looked like this (taken from actual posts like this one): 1/8/04 - 927 total cards needed 1/15/05 - 724 total cards needed 1/2/06 - 617 total cards needed 11/11/06 - 569 total cards needed 1/2/08 - 473 total cards needed 1/4/09 - 352 total cards needed So if I can get my hands on 75 - 100 cards this year I would consider that a very effective card year, quite a ways from 16,704. Interesting thread, so let me send a shout out to a bunch of guys over the years who have been acknowledged as set killers on my site, including these Topps set killers: 1954 TOPPS - 1/7/08 with last cards coming from Mark Macrea. 1958 TOPPS - 1/26/08 with the last card provided by Randy Wilberg. 1959 TOPPS - 8/3/08 at the National at Kurt Tourdot's table 1962 TOPPS - 2/11/08 - Last traded card provided by Mike Weir. 1962 Topps Green Tints - 6/1/06 - Last card from eBay. 1964 TOPPS - 8/19/08 - Last card received by Mark Walker. 1964 TOPPS COINS - 3/6/06 - last coin provided by Ed Schott. 1965 TOPPS – 2/7/04 -last card provided by Harold Oleinick. 1965 TOPPS EMBOSSED - 1/26/06 - Last card provided by Shawn Adkins. 1967 TOPPS - last card provided by Mike Zeiber, 1967 TOPPS Pin-up Posters - 12/17/02, Last poster sent by Kent Montgomery. 1968 TOPPS – 8/22/01 last card provided by Bob Schaub 1968 TOPPS GAME CARDS - 8/25/01: last card provided by Bob Chubb 1969 TOPPS – 6/1/01 last card provided by Brian Joura. 1969 TOPPS DECKLE EDGE - 2/15/01; Last card provided by Andy Blackwood 1970 TOPPS - 4/19/03 - last card provided by by Mark Price 1970 TOPPS BOOKLETS - 11/17/00 (last card from Jason Pensky) 1970 TOPPS POSTERS - 4/23/05 - Last poster sent by Padre Pat Wattigny 1970 TOPPS SCRATCHOFFS (white centers) - 12/15/01, Last card provided by Yuk Chow 1970 TOPPS SUPER - 1/15/06 from an eBay purchase tipped off by Mike Rich. 1971 TOPPS - 5/24/02 - Last card proveded by Spike Glidden. 1971 TOPPS COINS - 12/2/06 - Last coins sent by Mark Walker and Larry Gersbach. 1971 TOPPS SCRATCHOFFS (red centers) - 1/12/06 - Last card provided by Dave Mayo. 1972 TOPPS - 2/13/05, Last card from Mike Rich. 1973 TOPPS - 5/29/03 at Gibraltar Trade Center. 1973 TOPPS BLUE TEAM LIST - 1/31/07 - Last card sent by John Leroux. 1974 TOPPS - 6/3/02 by Bill Perkins. 1975 TOPPS – 9/24/01 Last card provided by Andy Baran. 1975 TOPPS (mini) - 1/3/04 - Last card from dealer friend Harold Oleinick. 1976 TOPPS - 1/28/00 - Last card from Pat Sweeney. 1977 TOPPS - 1/17/01 by Mike Rich 1978 TOPPS/BURGER KING/YANKEES - 9/20/00 by Steve Rittenberg 1979 TOPPS - 8/31/99 - last card provided by Jim Chapman. 1979 TOPPS Comics - 6/24/04 by Jimi Thayer. 1980 TOPPS - 12/15/08 - Final cards sent by Don Berg, Andy Blackmon, Max Schreiber and Eric Swartz. 1980 TOPPS SUPER's - 4/25/06 - Last cards from Ted Clayton. So with that I will sign off on this topic - BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ---------------------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Brian Lindholme" This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close. Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:) So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite players. Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done? Here's mine : I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a few complete : 1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980) Whaddy say? OBC Forever ================= To: richard dingman , , Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:20:03 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 Over the years Richard many of us have added plenty of stuff to our list to generate trading activity. In the past few years I have added all the other sports, Canadian issues, UV stuff, non-sport sets and most recently Parkhurst Hockey cards. There is always something of interest that we can add to our lists if we want. BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: richard dingman That's something I have wondered ... how do advanced members of trading groups progress when they seem to be beyond the ability of the group to assist? Perhaps it is something beyond the ability of the trading groups to address. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:14 -0600 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704 I need 9 cards – and have needed just them for at least 10 years: 7 of the 52 high$ and the rookie $eaver and Ro$e cards. Ten years from now I’ll still need 9 cards. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 08:49:54 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: Re:16704 Mark said: >There is always something of interest that we can add to our lists if we want... I added O-Pee-Chee, and that adds a few thousand to look for. I suppose if I ever get down to just a few hundred or so, I may think about adding Bowman, but I would rather work on Topps variations, and all the oddball and insert Topps sets, like posters, giants, supers, minis, stamps, stickers, coins, ruboffs, deckle, double header... And even their "subsidiary" brands like Venezuelan, Bazooka, Burger King, etc. Or I could take the route of specializing more in Braves stuff. But I figure I have QUITE a few years before that decision is necessary!!! PS I don't think I've ever woken up at 3:30 unable to go back to sleep... until tonight. I think I'll give it a try. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 06:24:06 -0500 From: Larry Tipton Subject: re:16704 I need 24 plus all 96 Topps 1952 Hi #s ================= Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:38:31 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: 16704 Having just returned from Dallas, watching my Ole Miss Rebels whup up on the Texas Tech Raiders in the Cotton Bowl, I caught up with this string, and I guess I should chime in on this issue. I have been able to finish the Topps and Bowman runs, thanks to great help from many of you. I have NOT finished the white and gray back variations from the 1956 Topps set, lacking 117 Trucks with a white back, after several years of searching. I am fortunate enough to have finished the red and black variations of the 1952 Topps low series. I have branched out into the inserts for the Topps sets and into early 1900's sets, after finishing the 1933-34, 36 Goudey's and 1939-1941 Play Balls. I still have not finished the 1963 Post set (5 short prints left including Yaz) and some of the late 70's Hostess sets. I would also love to find the 6 high number 1934-36 Diamond Stars I am missing at a reasonable price. Happy New Year, ================= Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 06:44:44 -0800 (PST) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Vicksburg, MS trip OBCers -- Has anybody been to Vicksburg and have any good gouge on where to stay and what to do? We're going to go in March during Spring Break to see the Civil War battlefield. If anybody has any tips, I'm all ears (or eyes, I guess)... Take Care, ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" , "Geno Wagner" Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 09:52:11 -0500 From: obcjohn@knology.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg, MS trip I'm a bit of a civil war buff and used to teach con ed courses on the western campaigns. I led a tour of the Vicksburg campaign about 10 years ago and have a lot of material you might be interested in. Are you going to be up Mungumry way any time soon? On Sun 01/ 4/09 9:44 AM , Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com sent: > OBCers -- > Has anybody been to Vicksburg and have any good gouge on where to > stay and what to do? We're going to go in March during Spring Break > to see the Civil War battlefield. 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Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics! Basically, numbers are whatever you choose...  manipulated by your manner of accounting. So how does this apply to 16704?
I've never looked at my collection from the perspective of how many cards I need to "complete a run". I just decide what I am going to collect, and from there on I make up the rules as I go. For some sets, I look for all the variations. Others, none, Most, I pick up variations up when I come across them them, but I am not formally looking for them. And as for the infamous 1952 high numbers, they're not even on my radar. So here's how it breaks down in my own warped world of
  • For 1953-1980, the number is ZERO, i.e
  • If I look at the simple 1952-1980 Topps run, my personal count is ONE (absent the '52 high numbers)... '52 Topps #2 Runnels
  • Adding in '52 Topps Red/Black back variations, the number jumps to 16.
  • '51 Topps Blue Backs and/or '52 Topps high numbers add a fistful of numbers.
  • Adding in oddballs such as Topps Stand-ups, color variations, etc. explodes the final tally.
    • For peace of mind, I look at my number as ONE. Otherwise I'd risk going insane (or broke!).
    And as for keeping the cardboard flowing, it definitely gets harder as we advance with our collections. Yep, I've done as many have by adding oddball and prewar sets, as well as other sports and nonsport sets. But my favorite approach was to add 2nd "OBC-only" sets from the 50s and 60s, strictly for trading purposes. This has kept trading active, and eliminated those long periods of inactivity when no one could find anything to hit. This is, after all, a hobby, and the aim is to keep it fun. And it sure is fun to see an OBC envelope in your mail box after a tough work day!
    That's it for counting. My brain hurts. DR

    --
Don Rice
WL: http://www12.asphost4free.com/dkrice/
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To: 
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 10:29:19 -0500
From: "Mark Holland" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704

You guys have some amazing collections.  This thread has had me all over the
place this morning.  I was looking at Mark Wings database to load the pre60
checklists in my stuff.  I was looking at Dan Austin's virtual card collection
to see what I have been missing.  I was looking through my binders to
make sure of what I had.  This has been really fun and I haven't spent apenny.

My original goal was to complete the 60-80 run but I have ventured into the50s
before starting the 61 & 63 sets. Those seem so impossible that I feeldefeated
before starting them. My 60s to 80s project isn't going too badly(for
me anyway).  I have finished 65-80 with the exception of some 66 & 67high
numbers. And my 60T is done and the 62 & 64 are well on their way.

So rather than tackle the 61 & 63 I ventured back to 58 & 59 Topps sets.  So
far I have not started the 52-57, 61 & 63 sets yet.  How did you guys start
them?  I spend my show money on sets in progress.  Should I list a "havelist"
with the few stragglers that I have from those sets.

Including all of the non started sets I am 3712 away from a '52 to '80 Topps
run (no variations included)

Great rambling...I have enjoyed "playing cards" this morning.

Mark Holland
Vintage Wantlist: http://www.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep16&groupid169083&ck/
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:18:19 EST
To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com
From: brockhattox@cs.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg, MS trip

There are several very nice bed and breakfast spots in Vicksburg.  I would
google them and see what might look good to you.  The bike trip around the
battlefield is great, but strenuous.   Stay away from the casino boats...
Have fun,

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:29:41 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Tom Housley" 
Subject: Re:16704

I was hesitant to add the numbers up - but after steeling myself, I sat
down & plugged the numbers in. Not counting variations or inserts -
just the base sets - I need 1,305 cards to complete the 1951-1980 run
(really the 1951-1967 run, since I have all sets from 68 thru 80

Almost half of that total is the 51 Blue Backs, 52's (I have so few it
doesn't even matter to exclude high numbers), and 53's.

Interesting thread, and now that I have it in a database, I'm going to
save these numbers & revisit them every year :-)

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To: 
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:56:03 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: Re:16704

When I joined OBC, I was working on 71's, 76's and 79's and had a handful of
t206's.  Now I need 66 cards in the 52-80 run.  What a ride!

To keep my list hittable, I added the OPC...and probably eventually hostess,
posts and exhibits.

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:02:41 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: available baseball

1972 topps--#637  Preston Gomez

1957 topps
14, 44, 139, 189, 194,

not sure of year of this one.

#172--Kansas City Athletics team card.

please send address with request

be well

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:59:59 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: 1964 topps Bigs question

I am on the roll tonite!!!!  3 posts in one evening must be some sort
of record for me.  lol

I have started this set and now need to ask what would be a proper way
to keep it.....is thier plastic holders for 3 ring binders? any

thanks all and be well

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:39:07 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: regarding availables

I still have #194 left from the 57 topps set, also have the texas
ranger team checklist available from the 74 team set, 2 stars for those
who do that.

let me know

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To: OBC Ramblings 
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:01:43 -0500
From: Bob Reed 
Subject: Re: 16704

When I joined OBC over 10 years ago I'm guessing I needed over 4000 cards for
my 1952-1980 run.  In 2009 that number should go under 100.  It currently
stands at 102
1952 - 69
1953 - 1 (anybody have an extra Willie Mays laying around somewhere?)
1958 - 3
1959 - 5
1961 - 24

Add in the Red Backs (1) and Blue Backs (39) an the number needed is 142.

The make my lists easier to hit I've added some second sets, upgrades, and oddball
items such as hostess and birth year sets of Kahns, Saldada, Post, Jello,
Fleer, etc.

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To: 
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 19:35:30 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Re: 16704

Even the sports collectors, after a period, reach a point where little can
be obtained other than new issues and those -as vast as they are - do not
quite satisfy the full-blooded collector. There are but two legitimate
limiting factors: available time and money. Rather than quit in a flurry of
frustration, the remedy is to expand the interest to balance the time
available for collecting. The field is sufficiently large to accommodate all
normal collecting needs and a bit of exploration in these untried fields
will make you wonder why you passed them up for so long.

Jefferson Burdick, October 1962 in his last article for the Card Collectors

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:41:20 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "welfar03" 
Subject: 16704

Well I really didn't want to get into this as I only have a total of 10
cards from 51 to 54.  But after I crunched the numbers I'm missing a
measly 4450.  Thats not counting varieations, tradeds (74&76) or
checklist (72&74).

I have no hopes of completing anything before 1958, except maybe 1955.
That is if anyone has an extra Clemente rookie laying around.

Hope everyone had a great holiday.

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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:26:59 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Mike Mroz" 
Subject: Re: 16704

My number currently stands at 6487, so I think I am currently the low
man on the totem pole.  As a member of FOOT, I have been educated on
the Mike Rich Principle of Collecting - Go after it all!   Now when I
head out to shows, I seem to add many more hits by looking for good
deals, rather than focusing on certain sets and overpaying for cards
from those sets.  The only set that I do actively focus on is the 1961
set, and even then I only look for good deals.   By nibbling away, and
with the help of generous OBCers, I've made significant dents in many
Kellogg's sets and even have a couple of late 70's football sets down
the the double digits with only paying pennies per card.  My eighteen
months in OBC has probably gotten the number from over 10,000 to 6487.
Thanks, folks.

--- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Reed  wrote:
> When I joined OBC over 10 years ago I'm guessing I needed over 4000
cards for my 1952-1980 run.  In 2009 that number should go under 100.
It currently stands at 102
> 1952 - 69
> 1953 - 1 (anybody have an extra Willie Mays laying around somewhere?)
> 1958 - 3
> 1959 - 5
> 1961 - 24
> Add in the Red Backs (1) and Blue Backs (39) an the number needed is
> The make my lists easier to hit I've added some second sets,
upgrades, and oddball items such as hostess and birth year sets of
Kahns, Saldada, Post, Jello, Fleer, etc.
> -Bob
> _________________________________________________________________
> Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows
> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 07:19:14 EST
To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, vrechek@ameritech.net
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 16704

The funny part of this is that it was written in 1962.  Topps had just
recently started to branch out into inserts and oddballs, such as the 1961 &
1962 Stamps, 1962 BB Bucks, 1961 Magic, etc.  Of course there were already a
number of non-sport issues.  Topps had only issued 1 Basketball set and would
not issue another one for another 7 years.  Hockey & Football were available,
and most do not know that Topps actually issued a Football set before a
Baseball set (1950 vs. 1951).  This does not even get into the 1948 Topps Magic
Photos, which is a fun set, that I rarely find, even though they are not that
As for my collection, I am down to 35 to complete the 1951-1990 Topps
BB run, which is 3 1951 Blue Backs and 32 1952 High Numbers.  It does NOT
include variations, upgrades, 1951 Connie Macks or Team Cards, or the inserts.  I
need 39 Bowmans, which is 36 1949's (31 high numbers), 1950 Ted Williams, 1951
Mantle & Mays.  It does not include the 1954 Ted Williams variation.
I do the countdown for the other sports as well.  I have been complete
on Basketball for a number of years, in Football, I need 64 1950 Topps and 11
Bowmans (6 48 shortprints, 4 52 shortprints and 1953 YA Tittle).  No hits to
any of these in over a year.  OPC BB & Hockey have recently been completed and
the Topps/OPC CFL have been done for years.  Fleer BB is down to 1959 #68
(does NOT include the 1960 #80, but DOES include the 1963 Fleer checklist).
Fleer FB is done, including the 1963 Checklist.  Philadelphia FB is done.  Hockey
is my weak area.  I did reduce my Topps run last year to a single card:
1961-62 #32 Glenn Hall.  Parkhurst Hockey is proving to be a slow go and I still
need 138, including 51 from 1951-52 (the first set) and 40 from 1963-64 (the
last year).
My most surprising countdown is the Goudey BB.  That count is now 58.
4 from 1933 (Lajoie, 2 Ruth's and a Gehrig); 7 1935's; 5 1936's; 34 1938's
and 8 1941's.  I would like to get this under 50 this year.  The 1939 - 1941
Playball run is finally under 200, at 190.
These thin lists explain all of the oddball issues I, like Peter,
collect.  There are tons of oddball and regional issues.  Those tend to be my
focus now.

Mike Rich

> Even the sports collectors, after a period, reach a point where little can
> be obtained other than new issues and those -as vast as they are - do not
> quite satisfy the full-blooded collector. There are but two legitimate limiting
> factors: available time and money. Rather than quit in a flurry of
> frustration, the remedy is to expand the interest to balance the time available for
> collecting. The field is sufficiently large to accommodate all normal collecting
> needs and a bit of exploration in these untried fields will make you wonder
> why you passed them up for so long.
> Jefferson Burdick, October 1962 in his last article for the Card Collectors
> Bulletin

New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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To: ,
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 07:37:07 -0500
From: "Chuck Paris" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg, MS trip

Bama:  Wished I'd known about that this fall.  My buddy and I did a road trip
focusing on the Western Campaign....Ft Henry and Donnelson, Parkers Crossroads,
Shiloh, Corinth, Brices Corners, Tupelo, Raymond, another one just west
of there, Vicksburg, Grand Gulf, back up to Ft Pillow, Jackson, Columbia,
Spring Hill, xxx Station, Franklin, Stones River, Chattanooga, Chickamauga,
Resaca, another one just south, Kennesaw Mountain, Another NE of therethat
the CSA won!, March to the Sea, Columbia, Bentonville and the BennettHouse
to wrap it up.  Woooo.... I'm getting excited just thinking about it.

Geno ..... in Vicksburg we stayed at the Battlefield Inn which is adjacent to
the National  Park and was very reasonable.  LMK if you want any detailson
any of the above.

----- Original Message -----
From: obcjohn@knology.net
To: OBC Ramblings ; Geno Wagner
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vicksburg, MS trip

I'm a bit of a civil war buff and used to teach con ed courses on the western
campaigns. I led a tour of the Vicksburg campaign about 10 years ago and
have a lot of material you might be interested in. Are you going to be up
Mungumry way any time soon?

On Sun 01/ 4/09 9:44 AM , Geno Wagner illini_grad_90@yahoo.com sent:
> OBCers --
> Has anybody been to Vicksburg and have any good gouge on where to
> stay and what to do? We're going to go in March during Spring Break
> to see the Civil War battlefield. If anybody has any tips, I'm all
> ears (or eyes, I guess)...
> Take Care,
> Geno
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To: , 
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:45:47 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall

Linda and all,
I have high bid on the item right now, and should be good enough to winit.
Who wants to go in on it with me?  I don't need the 55 Topps cards, and
I know there are several others from 54, including Lasorda RC and Snider,
that I don't need, so the wealth can go around.  Let me know....

Father Pat

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:14:49 +0000
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall of Famers-closes
in 3 days

I found a good lot of over 100 1952-1956 cards on ebay with Hall

Famers. Also the seller has 100% positive feedback.

ebay #250349650507

http://tinyurl.com/9gmdd7

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To: , 
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:28:55 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall

The item number and link are at the bottom of this page.  My bid is over
$400, and it's currently 212 and change, so we have wiggle room.  I'll keep
you posted.

To: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: seventytwop@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:45:47 -0600
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hallof
Famers-closes in 4 hours+

Linda and all,
I have high bid on the item right now, and should be good enough to winit.
Who wants to go in on it with me?  I don't need the 55 Topps cards, and
I know there are several others from 54, including Lasorda RC and Snider,
that I don't need, so the wealth can go around.  Let me know....

Father Pat

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:14:49 +0000
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall of Famers-closes
in 3 days

I found a good lot of over 100 1952-1956 cards on ebay with Hall

Famers. Also the seller has 100% positive feedback.

ebay #250349650507

http://tinyurl.com/9gmdd7

Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail=AE account now.

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Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:49:42 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Rick" 
Subject: 52 topps

I don't have very many but every once in awhile I'll bid on some on
ebay and today I received 7 cards I won and one had a white stock and
the rest grey stock. I knew about the red/black backs but not
white/grey do they have both for the whole set or just one series?

=================

To: LYONS RONI , 
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:25:26 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall

Hi Mentee!
I won the auction at $270.00, shipping brought it to $279.30.  I think what
I will do is get the cards here, then post a ramble as to what was included
in the lot exactly, then let the gang pick from there.  I know I need/want
a few of the 52's, one or two 54's, the Giants' team card, and possibly
the 55 Bowman Aaron.  But I'll publish the list and we'll see what goes from
there.  Stay tuned!

Fr. Pat

From: rrrlyons@msn.com
To: seventytwop@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hallof
Famers-closes in 4 hours+
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 03:32:57 +0000

If you need me to Buy a 1/3 or 1/4 share I can do either one. Rick

To: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: seventytwop@hotmail.com
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 16:45:47 -0600
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hallof
Famers-closes in 4 hours+

Linda and all,
I have high bid on the item right now, and should be good enough to winit.
Who wants to go in on it with me?  I don't need the 55 Topps cards, and
I know there are several others from 54, including Lasorda RC and Snider,
that I don't need, so the wealth can go around.  Let me know....

Father Pat

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 18:14:49 +0000
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 110 card + lot on ebay of 1952 -1956 with Hall of Famers-closes
in 3 days

I found a good lot of over 100 1952-1956 cards on ebay with Hall of
Famers. Also the seller has 100% positive feedback.

ebay #250349650507

http://tinyurl.com/9gmdd7

Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail=AE account now.

Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:10:27 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Cool photos for your wall!

OBCers --

I ordered the Doc Hoblitzell photo this guy was selling on Ebay for $10:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-Dick-Hoblitzell-Cincinatti-Reds-Baseball-Photo_W0QQitemZ300104160906QQihZ020QQcategoryZ37594QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I figured it would look cool in my office.  After it showed up, I was hooked and think I'll order some more players.  Click on the link, then go to his other items and type in baseball - you'll get a bunch of great photos of pre-war players.  I even saw a cool Seattle Raniers photo for you Ranier collectors in the group!  I'm thinking I need an Orval Overall or maybe a Johnny Kling - who knows, something cool.  For $10 and a frame, it's a nice picture for your wall...

Take Care,

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To: 
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:11:22 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: A little trade bait...

A few new items to possibly trade away...looking for t202's, t207's, t206 red
portraits and a few t205 HOF'ers...or anything else you may have to offer.

t202 Devlin Gets His Man (Mathewson/Devlin)  (one sgc30, one fair)
t205 Ed Walsh (one VG, one a fantastic A (due to light trim))
t205 Hoblitzell (no cin...to make sure Geno's paying attention)
1935 Diamond Star #28 Al Lopez PSA 3.5
1935 Goudey Dizzy Dean et al  VG/Ex to Ex
1938 Goudey Gehringer VG

Anybody want to work a trade?

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:48:18 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...

I'm paying attention! If that damned Guitar Hero hadn't cost so much...

Take Care,

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:

From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:11 PM

A few new items to possibly trade away...looking for t202's, t207's, t206 red
portraits and a few t205 HOF'ers...or anything else you may have to offer.

t202 Devlin Gets His Man (Mathewson/Devlin) (one sgc30, one fair)
t205 Ed Walsh (one VG, one a fantastic A (due to light trim))
t205 Hoblitzell (no cin...to make sure Geno's paying attention)
1935 Diamond Star #28 Al Lopez PSA 3.5
1935 Goudey Dizzy Dean et al VG/Ex to Ex
1938 Goudey Gehringer VG

Anybody want to work a trade?

Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista=AE.See

=================

To: Geno Wagner , 
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:04:40 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...

It's all about choices...sure your kids are happy, but your card collectionis
neglected.   I do think you made the right call though Geno.  Hate to follow
Geno's funny comment with a downer one...but there is a guy on Net54 who
is selling his collection of cracker jacks to pay for an operation for his
girl (cleft lip).  Natural to be weary I suppose, but this guy seems legit
to me.  Last time I looked there was a pretty reasonable Joe Wood and the
Lajoie wasn't bad either.  I've bought 4 HOF'ers already...maybe squeezeone
more out this month.  Picked two up already, and they look great.

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:48:18 -0800From: illini_grad_90@yahoo.comSubject: Re:
[OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com;

I'm paying attention!  If that damned Guitar Hero hadn't cost so much...

Take Care,
--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:
From: Mac Wubben Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade
bait...To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:11

All, A few new items to possibly trade away...looking for t202's, t207's, t206
red portraits and a few t205 HOF'ers...or anything else you may have tooffer.
t202 Devlin Gets His Man (Mathewson/Devlin)  (one sgc30, one fair)t205
Ed Walsh (one VG, one a fantastic A (due to light trim))t205 Hoblitzell(no
cin...to make sure Geno's paying attention)1935 Diamond Star #28 Al Lopez
PSA 3.51935 Goudey Dizzy Dean et al  VG/Ex to Ex1938 Goudey Gehringer VG
Anybody want to work a trade? Mac

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To: 
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:30:43 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: OBC Charity Auction--Submit your lots!

The OBC advisory committee has authorized an auction to fund the OBC contribution
of $150 for the Cards for the Troops campaign spearheaded by Bob Bannon.
Many OBC'ers contributed directly to this effort, so please remember this
is a purely voluntary auction.  Any funds beyond the $150 will go to the
OBC treasury for future expenses.
Rules (borrowed from the last charity auction):

Anyone may donate a lot to the auction. To do so, just email Mac (obcmac@hotmail.com)
with a description of the lot and a suggested minimum bid. Do not
send the donated cards to Mac!  Anything is good, from a small stack of Topps
commons to your favorite HOFer.
Who may donate? Anyone. Generally most lots are donated by OBCers, but sometimes
some of the most OBC friendly dealers may also donate lots. (We have no
plans to solicit contributions from any OBC dealers for this auction, but
they are not prohibited)
After I compile the list of items (list should be final by sunday), I will send
the list to Joe Isaac for distribution and bid tracking.  Joe will tryto
keep the high bids updated. To bid on any lot, please email with the lot
number and your bid.
The auction will end at 9pm EST on Sunday, January 25th. Joe will then posta
list of the donors, winners and winning bid for each lot. The winners will
then send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer and the donors will sendthe
items to the winning bidders. Please do not send any lots or money to me.
Please direct questions about specific lots to the donor. Their address is on
the OBC directory page.
Any general questions about the auction? Please email Joe or me.
Bid Early! Bid Often! And then Bid Again!

You are now free to submit lot descriptions to me for inclusion in the auction!

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:41:11 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...

Did I say it was for my kids?

Actually, I despise video games, but as I was watching them play I couldn'thelp
but notice that they had the Eagles, Steely Dan, CCR, and more (no Grateful
Dead unfortunately). I figured I better give it a try and now I'mhooked
on the stupid game! If you haven't played, it's probably the funnest
game you'll see in a long time...

Take Care,

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:

From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: "Geno Wagner" , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:04 PM

It's all about choices...sure your kids are happy, but your card collectionis
neglected. I do think you made the right call though Geno. Hate
to follow Geno's funny comment with a downer one...but there is a guy on Net54
who is selling his collection of cracker jacks to pay for an operation
for his girl (cleft lip). Natural to be weary I suppose, but this guy seems
legit to me. Last time I looked there was a pretty reasonable Joe Wood
and the Lajoie wasn't bad either. I've bought 4 HOF'ers already...maybe
squeeze one more out this month. Picked two up already, and they look

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:48:18 -0800
From: illini_grad_ 90@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com; obcmac@hotmail. com

I'm paying attention! If that damned Guitar Hero hadn't cost so much...

Take Care,

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:

From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:11 PM

A few new items to possibly trade away...looking for t202's, t207's, t206 red
portraits and a few t205 HOF'ers...or anything else you may have to offer.

t202 Devlin Gets His Man (Mathewson/Devlin) (one sgc30, one fair)
t205 Ed Walsh (one VG, one a fantastic A (due to light trim))
t205 Hoblitzell (no cin...to make sure Geno's paying attention)
1935 Diamond Star #28 Al Lopez PSA 3.5
1935 Goudey Dizzy Dean et al VG/Ex to Ex
1938 Goudey Gehringer VG

Anybody want to work a trade?

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:41:37 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...

Did I say it was for my kids?

Actually, I despise video games, but as I was watching them play I couldn'thelp
but notice that they had the Eagles, Steely Dan, CCR, and more (no Grateful
Dead unfortunately). I figured I better give it a try and now I'mhooked
on the stupid game! If you haven't played, it's probably the funnest
game you'll see in a long time...

Take Care,

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:

From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: "Geno Wagner" , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 8:04 PM

It's all about choices...sure your kids are happy, but your card collectionis
neglected. I do think you made the right call though Geno. Hate
to follow Geno's funny comment with a downer one...but there is a guy on Net54
who is selling his collection of cracker jacks to pay for an operation
for his girl (cleft lip). Natural to be weary I suppose, but this guy seems
legit to me. Last time I looked there was a pretty reasonable Joe Wood
and the Lajoie wasn't bad either. I've bought 4 HOF'ers already...maybe
squeeze one more out this month. Picked two up already, and they look

Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 17:48:18 -0800
From: illini_grad_ 90@yahoo. com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com; obcmac@hotmail. com

I'm paying attention! If that damned Guitar Hero hadn't cost so much...

Take Care,

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:

From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A little trade bait...
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:11 PM

A few new items to possibly trade away...looking for t202's, t207's, t206 red
portraits and a few t205 HOF'ers...or anything else you may have to offer.

t202 Devlin Gets His Man (Mathewson/Devlin) (one sgc30, one fair)
t205 Ed Walsh (one VG, one a fantastic A (due to light trim))
t205 Hoblitzell (no cin...to make sure Geno's paying attention)
1935 Diamond Star #28 Al Lopez PSA 3.5
1935 Goudey Dizzy Dean et al VG/Ex to Ex
1938 Goudey Gehringer VG

Anybody want to work a trade?

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 02:55:10 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: ChicoD1@aol.com
Subject: Rumors of my demise are greatly exaggerated...

Well first of all, belated thanks go out to Mark Talbot for a pair of
"sunglasses needed" upper deck cards, sandwiching a great Babe Ruth sticker! He
also reminds me that I need to find a place to load my webpage...more on  that

Also thanks to Lynn Miller for some great 1978 additions..

2008 couldn't go fast enough for me. Being in the mortgage industry, the  2nd
half of the year has been a disaster. Sometimes it felt like being
unemployed yet still having a place to go every day. Be that as it may, we  muddle
through and looks like 2009 might be off to a slightly better start. My  best of
2008 was being in Chicago and hanging with Kent and the rest of you  folks.
Those memories carry me a long way.

I read just about all of the Santa emails, always a highlight of the OBC
year. I hated missing that one, but I switched companies in November and time
just kept sliding away. And the charity event that I play music for on the
internet was a rousing success for us. My moustache even got donated for over  600
bucks! There are pics (that upper lip hadn't seen light of day in 23 years).
Despite all the crap of 2008, we actually formed a real charity, where we act
as  a funnel for sites like toys for tots, red cross, st judes, among others.
This  leads to my next point...

We have a web page and because of that domain, I found a place to host my
pages. They are badly out of date, so please don't go by them. I want to send
the link out just to see if you guys can see it.
_www.littleangelscharities.org/chicod1/chico.htm_ (http://www.littleangelscharities.org/chicod1/chico.htm)
. Let me know if it works. I have some major recoding to do so that all the
pictures and links to other pages works, but they now have a home. The main
site  (littleangelscharities.org) is still under development. We needed to at
least  get it going for our December fundraiser. All this and I still try to
find time  to run my travel site. That came about as we were all trying to plan
our Chicago  trip. Feel free to check that out _www.gulliverstravelgroup.com_
(http://www.gulliverstravelgroup.com)  .

So as you can see, I probably spread myself a little thin lately (don't say
anything about my gut Kent, you got one too LOL!). The charity for the kids is
always a top priority, but now I hope I can find some time for me. I'm still
not  sure if I really want to go to Cleveland AGAIN (or have the resources
either).  So that is up in the air. Maybe we should all just head somewhere that
has great  card shops (what are those?) somewhere we all haven't been.

I hope you all had a great beginning to the new year. May it bring
prosperity (even a little) to all of us!

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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 11:01:00 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Info on an ebay item

Hey guys,

Can anyone offer me some advice onthis item? Do you think they are cut from 4-in-1 Exhibits?

=================

To: "OBC Ramblings" , "Glenn Codere" 
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:14:14 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Info on an ebay item

Yes, they are.

On Wed 01/ 7/09  2:01 PM , Glenn Codere glenncodere@yahoo.com sent:
> Hey guys,
> Can anyone offer me some advice on this item [1]? Do you think they
> are cut from 4-in-1 Exhibits?
> Glenn
> Links:
> ------
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To: 
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:25:48 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: 1952 Bowman Football Available

To a good home, #79, Robert Hoernschemeyer of the Detroit Lions (when they were
good), has creases on the front but has good color and reasonable corners.
 No writing on it.  Let me know who wants/needs it!

Father Pat

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To: 
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:55:34 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: More Availables

Here's another round of availables.  Be sure to include your address. Preference
to those who have not claimed waivers recently.

1929 4 in 1 exhibits (cut outs):  Haas,  Kerr,  Richardson,  Rothrock,  Tavener,

1933 Goudey:  65

1933 Indian Gum:  65

1941 Double Play (cut in 2):  71/72

1954 Bowman:  93

1955 Bowman (trimmed):  188

1957 Topps:  48  343

1958 Topps:  35  381

1968 Topps:  579

=================

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:48:34 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: OBC-HOF vote update

3 DAYS LEFT TO VOTE!

With my ballot, which is below, we now have 33 ballots.
Leading the pack are:
88% Rickey Henderson, 29 votes
52% Jim Rice, 17
39% Bert Blyleven, 13
36% Andre Dawson, 12
21% Jack Morris, 7

Some other stats: only 1 blank ballot, and only 2 full ballots (10
players selected).  8 guys still have no votes cast for them.

My ballot:
Joe Jackson
Tommy John

Two I hated to take off: Murphy (Consecutive MVPs?  Awesome.  Shows
I'm not being a homer though.) and Mattingly (Donnie baseball WAS the
Yankees for a decade, and he was my childhood baseball hero.)

=================

To: 
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 21:47:04 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Big Thanks to Ken Pillion

A real big thanks today for some real big players who arrived - all over 6
feet tall: 1971-2 basketball cards of Rookie Dan Issel, Paul Silas, Dave
DeBusschere, Warren Armstrong, and Chamberlain, Hayes and Alcindor on one
card. My want list is pretty obscure and I hadn't made much progress on this
set in awhile. New-guy Ken Pillion has inspired me to put together a list of
collecting goals for 2009 and he's dented this set considerably. Thanks a
million for thinking of me, Ken.

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:04:26 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "distelrath66" 
Subject: 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

http://www.courant.com/features/hc-webbaseballcard.artjan07,0,2557404.story?page1

=================

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 03:18:23 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, distelrath66 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

OBCers --

I had a similar experience once - I found a 1976 Dick Pole card and a $5 bill
in an ashtray at a mall when I was 10 yrs old. Ahhh, the thrill of the
"big find..."

Take Care,

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, distelrath66  wrote:

From: distelrath66 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 5:04 AM

http://www.courant. com/features/ hc-webbaseballca rd.artjan07, 0,2557404. story?page

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:05:16 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Supplies request

Hey guys!

I was wondering if someone could help me out. I need a small supply of 4 pocket pages (for postcard-sized items). I need maybe 8 to 10 pages.

Is anyone out there planning on attending a show soon where you could pick these up for me? I'd be happy to forward some cash via Paypal to cover costs.

Glasgow, Scotland

=================

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:28:23 EST
To: ryandistelrath@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

imagine the dope who could have had it for $10

In a message dated 1/8/2009 5:04:39 A.M. Central Standard Time,
ryandistelrath@gmail.com writes:

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To: 
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:52:41 -0800
From: "KIT OKAMURO" 
Subject: CARD SHOW

YESTERDAY, I WENT TO A BI-WEEKLY SHOW 75 MILES FROM MY HOUSE, FRANK AND SONS.
VERY BIG AND BUSY, BEEN GOING TWICE A WEEK SINCE THE EARLY 90S. ANYWAYS I
WAS GOING THROUGH SOME BOXES AT A DEALERS TABLE WHEN A GIRL IN SPANDEX AND
STORE BOUGHT DDs WALKS BY AND ATTRACTS MY ATTENTION. SHE GOES TO ANOTHER BOOTH
AND AS I PASS BY SHE IS SNUGGLED UP TO- PETE ROSE. THERE ARE LOTS OF GAWKERS,
MOSTLY AT HER I THINK. SO I GO TO ANOTHER BOOTH AND PURCHASE A BALL
HOPING HE WOULD SIGN IT. I APPROACH  HIM AND ASK HE TAKES THE BALL AND SIGNS
ON SWEET SPOT. NICE CLEAR AUTOGRAPH. HE WAS VERY CORDIAL AND WASN'T PUTOUT
BY MY INTRUSION AS HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE WITH A LOT OF CELEBRITIES. HE
SIGNED AND WALKED OUT WITH HIS TROPHY IN TOW. THIS WAS NICE, OPPOSITE OF MY
EXPERIENCE WITH MAYS A FEW YEARS AGO AND JAABAR. PETE GETS MY VOTE, KIT OKAMURO
=================

To: "OBC Ramblings" ,
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:21:48 -0800
From: "Dave Fallen" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Supplies request

Glenn:  I'd be happy to send a dozen sheets your way.  No charge, but if I ever
get to Glasgow perhaps you could point me towards a good local brew.

-Dave Fallen

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Codere
To: OBC Ramblings
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:05 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Supplies request

Hey guys!

I was wondering if someone could help me out. I need a small supply of 4 pocket
pages (for postcard-sized items). I need maybe 8 to 10 pages.

Is anyone out there planning on attending a show soon where you could pick
these up for me? I'd be happy to forward some cash via Paypal to cover costs.

Glasgow, Scotland

=================

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 08:32:32 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Supplies request filled!

Hey guys!

As usual, OBC comes up trumps. I've already had a few replies to my request for 4 pocket sheets. My needs are well and truly satisfied!!

Glasgow, Scotland

=================

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:30:47 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Tom Massimo" 
Subject: Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has arrived!

I have packed a lot of excitement into the first 8 days of 2009.
First, I turned 40 years old on January 3rd.  But then 3 days later I
got over the "trauma" of hitting the big 4-0, when my wife delivered a
beautiful, healthy girl, Ava Marcus Massimo.  Mother and daughter are
doing fine and we all came home from the hospital today.  It is our
first child and I have to say, after watching my wife go through her
pregnancy and delivery, women are every bit as strong and tough as
men.  I also have to say watching my child being born is the greatest
thing I have ever seen in my life.

I apologize to those who I have not got back to in the last couple of
weeks.  I am sort of back into collecting, as time permits.

Happy New Year to all,

=================

To: Tom Massimo ,
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:06:45 -0500
From: "Hitzeman, Steven A." 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has

Just wondering if anyone live in Dallas. I will be visiting!

Sent from PDA

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom Massimo" 
To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: 1/8/09 3:30 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has arrived!

I have packed a lot of excitement into the first 8 days of 2009.
First, I turned 40 years old on January 3rd. But then 3 days later I
got over the "trauma" of hitting the big 4-0, when my wife delivered a
beautiful, healthy girl, Ava Marcus Massimo. Mother and daughter are
doing fine and we all came home from the hospital today. It is our
first child and I have to say, after watching my wife go through her
pregnancy and delivery, women are every bit as strong and tough as
men. I also have to say watching my child being born is the greatest
thing I have ever seen in my life.

I apologize to those who I have not got back to in the last couple of
weeks. I am sort of back into collecting, as time permits.

Happy New Year to all,

=================

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 15:54:08 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Lynn Miller 
Subject: Rare 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings Baseball Card

Interesting articlesome of you probably have heard about http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1101238.html

=================

To: 
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:42:11 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Anyone have a 2009 SCD Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards?

I have the 2008 edition and I need to check one listing in the 2009 edition
regarding 1934 Al Demaree Die-Cuts R304. Ideally I could use a scan of the
page(s) that the set appears on in the 2009 catalog to compare card numbers
and prices to the 2008 catalog. (The set is on page 121 and 122 in the 2008
Catalog, alphabetically with the "Ds"). If anyone has more than one of these
cards, I'd appreciate hearing from you as well.

I'm doing an article on the (impossible) set. If you have a 2009 Catalog and
can send a scan, let me know so I can cancel the request to the rest of the
OBC world. Thanks much for any help.

George Vrechek

=================

To: 
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 19:09:53 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Cancel Catalog Lookup Help

Bob Donaldson rocketed me a scan of the Al Demarees so I'm all set. Thanks
to the OBC system. I'd still be interested in hearing from anyone who has
more than one of the cards.

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:26:48 -0800 (PST)
To: Tom Massimo ,
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has arrived!

Hitz --

I was there once or twice - it seemed that a lot of people lived there...

Take Care,

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Hitzeman, Steven A.  wrote:

From: Hitzeman, Steven A. 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has
To: "Tom Massimo" , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" 
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 5:06 PM

Just wondering if anyone live in Dallas. I will be visiting!

Sent from PDA

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom Massimo" 
To: "OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com" 
Sent: 1/8/09 3:30 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has arrived!

I have packed a lot of excitement into the first 8 days of 2009.
First, I turned 40 years old on January 3rd. But then 3 days later I
got over the "trauma" of hitting the big 4-0, when my wife delivered a
beautiful, healthy girl, Ava Marcus Massimo. Mother and daughter are
doing fine and we all came home from the hospital today. It is our
first child and I have to say, after watching my wife go through her
pregnancy and delivery, women are every bit as strong and tough as
men. I also have to say watching my child being born is the greatest
thing I have ever seen in my life.

I apologize to those who I have not got back to in the last couple of
weeks. I am sort of back into collecting, as time permits.

Happy New Year to all,

=================

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 01:53:44 +0000 (UTC)
To: illini grad 90 
From: tvalacak@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

My dad found a 1983 Dave Rucker in the parking lot of his doctors office last
month. He wrapped it up and gave it to me for Christmas. I couldn't
stop laughing.

T.J. Valacak
OBC member since August 2005
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Geno Wagner" 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "distelrath66" 
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:18:23 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

OBCers --

I had a similar experience once - I found a 1976 Dick Pole card and a $5 bill
in an ashtray at a mall when I was 10 yrs old. Ahhh, the thrill ofthe
"big find..."

Take Care,

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, distelrath66  wrote:

From: distelrath66 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 5:04 AM

http://www.courant. com/features/ hc-webbaseballca rd.artjan07, 0,2557404. story?page

=================

Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:53:47 -0600
To: uthminsta1 
From: ddejong@everestkc.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC-HOF vote update


    I got to go with Henderson and Blyleven.   Wish Rickey had not been such a hot dog, but man could he play....just getting on base would disrupt the other team so badly!  Bert - the first person born in Europe to be starting picture in a World Series game - made the bigs when I was really into the came as a kid.  The fact that he play for the Twins bias's me some, but just a little!
    

    ----- Original Message -----
    

    From: uthminsta1 <uthminsta@hotmail.com>

    Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 8:48 pm

    Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC-HOF vote update

    > 3 DAYS LEFT TO VOTE! 
    > 
    > With my ballot, which is below, we now have 33 ballots. 
    > Leading the pack are: 
    > 88% Rickey Henderson, 29 votes 
    > 52% Jim Rice, 17 
    > 39% Bert Blyleven, 13 
    > 36% Andre Dawson, 12 
    > 21% Jack Morris, 7 
    > 
    > Some other stats: only 1 blank ballot, and only 2 full ballots (10 
    > players selected).  8 guys still have no votes cast for them. 
    > 
    > My ballot: 
    > Blyleven 
    > Dawson 
    > Henderson 
    > Joe Jackson 
    > Tommy John 
    > McGwire 
    > Raines 
    > Rice 
    > Rose 
    > Smith 
    > 
    > Two I hated to take off: Murphy (Consecutive MVPs?  Awesome.  Shows 
    > I'm not being a homer though.) and Mattingly (Donnie baseball WAS the 
    > Yankees for a decade, and he was my childhood baseball hero.) 
    > 
    > Aaron 
    > 
    > 

=================

To: , Geno Wagner 
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:56:13 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

I found an 80-81 Kareem on the street this past summer.  I thought it was pretty

To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.comCC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; ryandistelrath@gmail.comFrom:
tvalacak@comcast.netDate: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 01:53:44 +0000Subject:
Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an old antique dealer

My dad found a 1983 Dave Rucker in the parking lot of his doctors office last
month.  He wrapped it up and gave it to me for Christmas.  I couldn't stop
laughing.T.J. ValacakOBC member since August 2005http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm-----
Original Message -----From: "Geno Wagner" To:
OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "distelrath66" Sent:
Thursday, January 8, 2009 5:18:23 AM GMT -06:00
US/Canada CentralSubject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card found by an oldantique

OBCers --

I had a similar experience once - I found a 1976 Dick Pole card and a $5 bill
in an ashtray at a mall when I was 10 yrs old.  Ahhh, the thrill of the "big

Take Care,
--- On Thu, 1/8/09, distelrath66  wrote:
From: distelrath66 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1869 Card
found by an old antique dealerTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comDate: Thursday,
January 8, 2009, 5:04 AM

http://www.courant. com/features/ hc-webbaseballca rd.artjan07, 0,2557404. story?page

Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync.
http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_012009
=================

To: 
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:18:17 -0800
From: "KIT OKAMURO" 
Subject: GREAT NEW YEAR START

THE US ARMY DELIVERS MY SON HOME FROM IRAQ SAFELY. BUT THEY WANT HIM BACK IN
2 WEEKS. NOT FAIR.
KIT OKAMURO
=================

To: "Hitzeman, Steven A." , Tom Massimo , "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" 
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:08:57 +0000
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has arrived!

Last year when I was in the Dallas area I tried to reach George Hay who lives in Richardson (just north of Dallas) but was unsucessful.  Gary Pearce lives in Frisco (also north of Dallas, farther than Richardson).  Doug Smith can see you if you visit him in Ft. Worth (just west of Dallas), I'd check with the F.I.C. first.  Terry Woods use to like in the Dallas area but I think he is in McKinney now in the western section of the state.  That's about it for the Dallas area Steven - GOOD LUCK and happy travels.  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ---------------------- MARK

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Hitzeman, Steven A." 
Just wondering if anyone live in Dallas. I will be visiting!

Sent from PDA

-----Original Message-----
From: "Tom Massimo" 
To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" 
Sent: 1/8/09 3:30 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Crazy Start to the New Year, My first child has arrived!

I have packed a lot of excitement into the first 8 days of 2009.
First, I turned 40 years old on January 3rd. But then 3 days later I
got over the "trauma" of hitting the big 4-0, when my wife delivered a
beautiful, healthy girl, Ava Marcus Massimo. Mother and daughter are
doing fine and we all came home from the hospital today. It is our
first child and I have to say, after watching my wife go through her
pregnancy and delivery, women are every bit as strong and tough as
men. I also have to say watching my child being born is the greatest
thing I have ever seen in my life.

I apologize to those who I have not got back to in the last couple of
weeks. I am sort of back into collecting, as time permits.

Happy New Year to all,

=================

Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:21:00 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Mike Mroz" 
Subject: Redford Show

Can any of the FOOTs tell me when the next Redford show is scheduled?

=================

To: "Mike Mroz" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:26:19 +0000
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Redford Show

Hey Mike,

When I need info on the Redford show I check out the activies page for the Redford VFW post 345 at http://www.geocities.com/vfw345/Post_Activities.html.  To cut to the chase the next two shows are on January 18th and Marck 1st.  BE WELL!!!!

REGARDS ------------------------------ MARK

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Mike Mroz" 
Can any of the FOOTs tell me when the next Redford show is scheduled?

=================

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:16:28 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Hi all,

An eBay seller currently lists a bunch of 1975 TCMA 1950s PCL singles for $15 each. Haven't seen this set around before, so I'm tempted to spring for the #5. However, $15 seems pretty pricey for a 1970s oddball that isn't a star. What do you think, is that price really high, or is this set truly that rare and valuable?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270321741877&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNASIF:US:1123

=================

To: "jd3681" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:46:57 +0000
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1964 topps Bigs question

Hey JD,

I like to keep my collection in binders so I use 4 pocket pages for the `64 Topps Giants; the pages are good for any postcard size issue (Exhibits, Nu-Card HI Lites, Topps Supers, ect...).  I display them behind the `64 Topps set and the coins that were issued that year are in a separate binder reserved for Sports coins (Topps, Salada, Old London, Citgo, ect...).  Hope that helps - BE WELL!!!!

REGARDS ------------------------- MARK

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "jd3681" 
I am on the roll tonite!!!! 3 posts in one evening must be some sort
of record for me. lol

I have started this set and now need to ask what would be a proper way
to keep it.....is thier plastic holders for 3 ring binders? any

thanks all and be well

=================

Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:31:00 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

>a separate binder reserved for Sports coins (Topps, Salada, Old
London, Citgo, ect...).

Mark, do you put them in 2x2 holders (or something else sturdy) then
into 20-pocket sheets, or do you put them loose in 30-pocket sheets?
I wonder, since I have some of my coins in old sheets (which probably
have PVC in them), if the sheets are damaging them.  Time to take them
out and come up with another idea, or new sheets at least.

Everyone, how do you store your baseball coins?

By the way, the OBC HOF election ends tomorrow.  Right now we have 36
ballots turned in.  I will probably be making some changes after
further study with my research buddy, Mike Rumley-Wells.

=================

To: "uthminsta1" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:38:29 +0000
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

Coins are first put into 2x2 dollar coin holders made of cardboard and cellophane then
into 20-pocket sheets and put into the binders.  It's as simple as that.  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS ---------------------- MARK

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "uthminsta1" 
>a separate binder reserved for Sports coins (Topps, Salada, Old
London, Citgo, ect...).

Mark, do you put them in 2x2 holders (or something else sturdy) then
into 20-pocket sheets, or do you put them loose in 30-pocket sheets?
I wonder, since I have some of my coins in old sheets (which probably
have PVC in them), if the sheets are damaging them. Time to take them
out and come up with another idea, or new sheets at least.

Everyone, how do you store your baseball coins?

By the way, the OBC HOF election ends tomorrow. Right now we have 36
ballots turned in. I will probably be making some changes after
further study with my research buddy, Mike Rumley-Wells.

=================

Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:42:19 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: OBC 2009 HOF

I've been asked to list the eligible players again.  Here's an
abbreviation of the original post from back in December.

Howzabout we have a mock election anyway? The REAL results will be
made public on January 12th, so let's say we gotta get our votes in by
January 10th - that will give you some time to research the candidates
if you want. Other than that, same basic rules apply; you can vote for
anywhere from zero to ten of the guys listed below. Seventy-five
percent of the vote makes them our OBC candidate. Any takers?

2009 HOF CANDIDATES
Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams
There have since been write-in votes for Pete Rose, Joe Jackson and
Jim Kaat, that I can remember... so please feel free to add anyone
else you would vote for if you were given a ballot.  Vote for up to
ten players, and blank ballots are also accepted.  Post it to the
forum or email it to me, and I will post the results after midnight
EASTERN TIME tomorrow (Saturday) night.  So remember, that means all
you west coast guys have to be done by 9pm!!!

=================

Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:09:51 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Richard Dingman" 
Subject: looking for Scott Johnson??

I received a package with 10 nice clean 1975 checklists to update my
ratty inked ones.  No note, a return address for Scott Johnson in
Louisville KY.  I can't find any records for him or listing of him in
any groups I belong to.  Can anyone help me?  I would love to thank him
and see if I can reciprocate.
Richard D

=================

To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:43:52 -0500
From: "Ed Schott" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

I store my coins in a 6x3x2 cookie tin so I can here them ping ping and dingaling
sounds like real money

----- Original Message -----
From: talbot1@comcast.net
To: uthminsta1 ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

Coins are first put into 2x2 dollar coin holders made of cardboard and
cellophane then
into 20-pocket sheets and put into the binders.  It's as simple as that. BE

REGARDS ---------------------- MARK

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "uthminsta1" 

>a separate binder reserved for Sports coins (Topps, Salada, Old
London, Citgo, ect...).

Mark, do you put them in 2x2 holders (or something else sturdy) then
into 20-pocket sheets, or do you put them loose in 30-pocket sheets?
I wonder, since I have some of my coins in old sheets (which probably
have PVC in them), if the sheets are damaging them. Time to take them
out and come up with another idea, or new sheets at least.

Everyone, how do you store your baseball coins?

By the way, the OBC HOF election ends tomorrow. Right now we have 36
ballots turned in. I will probably be making some changes after
further study with my research buddy, Mike Rumley-Wells.

=================

To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 21:23:11 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: 2nd call for charity auction lots

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.  If you'd like to submit a lot,
please let me know.  (See original email below for full explanation).

All, The OBC advisory committee has authorized an auction to fund the OBC contribution
of $150 for the Cards for the Troops campaign spearheaded by Bob
Bannon.  Many OBC'ers contributed directly to this effort, so please remember
this is a purely voluntary auction.  Any funds beyond the $150 will goto
the OBC treasury for future expenses.Rules (borrowed from the last charity

Anyone may donate a lot to the auction. To do so, just email Mac (obcmac@hotmail.com)
with a description of the lot and a suggested minimum bid. Do not
send the donated cards to Mac!  Anything is good, from a small stack of Topps
commons to your favorite HOFer.
Who may donate? Anyone. Generally most lots are donated by OBCers, but sometimes
some of the most OBC friendly dealers may also donate lots. (We have no
plans to solicit contributions from any OBC dealers for this auction, but
they are not prohibited)
After I compile the list of items (list should be final by sunday), I will send
the list to Joe Isaac for distribution and bid tracking.  Joe will tryto
keep the high bids updated. To bid on any lot, please email with the lot
number and your bid.
The auction will end at 9pm EST on Sunday, January 25th. Joe will then posta
list of the donors, winners and winning bid for each lot. The winners will
then send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer and the donors will sendthe
items to the winning bidders. Please do not send any lots or money to me.
Please direct questions about specific lots to the donor. Their address is on
the OBC directory page.
Any general questions about the auction? Please email Joe or me.
Bid Early! Bid Often! And then Bid Again! You are now free to submit lot descriptions
to me for inclusion in the auction! Thanks! Mac, Joe, AC and thegang)
Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync.
http://windowslive.com/explore?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009
=================

To: "obc ramblings" ,
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:54:49 -0800
From: "Dave Fallen" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Spike:  I have this set and I like it a lot.  I would call the cards uncommon,
but not rare.  I have 2 of the #5 Elmer Singleton cards, one in my PCL binder
and one in my Seattle Rainiers binder.  I've had the cards for some time
now so I haven't been tracking the availability or prices over the last
year.  I'm thinking I paid more like $5 - $6 apiece for them (in fact, I'm
pretty sure several were under $5).  Relatively unusual cards like these have
selling prices all over the place.  You could probably get one for less
if you are really patient, but it might take a year or two.  And of course,
it only takes two idiots with deep pockets who want the same card to drive
the price to ridiculous levels.  However, I'm pretty sure all the deep-pocket
PCL collectors already have these cards.  Unlike certain popcorn cards,
these TCMA cards will certainly pop up again - I just can't predict the price.
 Hope this helps.

-Dave Fallen

----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew
To: obc ramblings
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:16 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Hi all,

An eBay seller currently lists a bunch of 1975 TCMA 1950s PCL singles for$15
each. Haven't seen this set around before, so I'm tempted to spring for
the #5. However, $15 seems pretty pricey for a 1970s oddball that isn't astar.
What do you think, is that price really high, or is this set truly that
rare and valuable?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item270321741877&ssPageNameADME:B:WNASIF:US:1123

=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:53:29 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: 1970 Topps Scratch-Off Complete

Hey OBC,

I have finished my first Vintage Set of 2009. The 1970 Topps Scratch-Off set
is now complete. The last two cards, Kaline and Killebrew came in last night
from an Ebay purchase that contained some odd-ball, Inserts, Obak, T206,
Kellogg's, Fleer WS...a nice mix. I actually did not know that the final two
were in the lot. Great surprise and made my weekend even better.

Thank you to all of OBC who hit this set!

John Stamper
=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:23:52 -0600
To: talbot1@comcast.net
From: Yaz 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

Gee, and here I was just tossing them in an old Pringles can.

Greg (yaz)

talbot1@comcast.net wrote:
> Aaron,
>      Coins are first put into 2x2 dollar coin holders made of
> cardboard and cellophane then
> into 20-pocket sheets and put into the binders.  It's as simple as
> that.  BE WELL!!!
> REGARDS ---------------------- MARK
>     -------------- Original message --------------
>     From: "uthminsta1" 
>     >a separate binder reserved for Sports coins (Topps, Salada, Old
>     London, Citgo, ect...).
>     Mark, do you put them in 2x2 holders (or something else sturdy) then
>     into 20-pocket sheets, or do you put them loose in 30-pocket sheets?
>     I wonder, since I have some of my coins in old sheets (which probably
>     have PVC in them), if the sheets are damaging them. Time to take them
>     out and come up with another idea, or new sheets at least.
>     Everyone, how do you store your baseball coins?
>     By the way, the OBC HOF election ends tomorrow. Right now we have 36
>     ballots turned in. I will probably be making some changes after
>     further study with my research buddy, Mike Rumley-Wells.
>     Aaron

=================

To: ,
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:28:24 -0700
From: "Marshall West" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

You guys reminded me of something I had long forgotten about.  I had a zillion
'64 coins (in 1964).  My aunt always bought those chicken bouillon cubes
that came in a small, round, plastic container with a plastic snap-on cap(I
never understood why they put square cubes in a round container).  I discovered
that a Topps '64 coin fit PERFECTLY in a chicken bullion container.
You could stack about 20 of them in a container.  They fit in there so good,
they did not rattled around at all.  I began a neighborhood hunt for the
containers, and after that, my coins were sealed, and never touched oxygen
for over 30 years. In the 90's, I wanted to display them in plastic, so I
tossed the chicken bouillon containers out.  I've never noticed if the chicken
bouillon people still sell cubes in those round plastic containers.  Probably
not, but I'll be looking for them next time I'm in the store.  If the
round containers still exist, I highly recommend them for Topps coin storage

Marshall West

----- Original Message -----
From: Yaz
To: talbot1@comcast.net
Cc: uthminsta1 ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1964 topps Bigs question

Gee, and here I was just tossing them in an old Pringles can.

Greg (yaz)

talbot1@comcast.net wrote:
> Aaron,
> Coins are first put into 2x2 dollar coin holders made of
> cardboard and cellophane then
> into 20-pocket sheets and put into the binders. It's as simple as
> that. BE WELL!!!
> REGARDS ---------------------- MARK
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "uthminsta1" 
> >a separate binder reserved for Sports coins (Topps, Salada, Old
> London, Citgo, ect...).
> Mark, do you put them in 2x2 holders (or something else sturdy) then
> into 20-pocket sheets, or do you put them loose in 30-pocket sheets?
> I wonder, since I have some of my coins in old sheets (which probably
> have PVC in them), if the sheets are damaging them. Time to take them
> out and come up with another idea, or new sheets at least.
> Everyone, how do you store your baseball coins?
> By the way, the OBC HOF election ends tomorrow. Right now we have 36
> ballots turned in. I will probably be making some changes after
> further study with my research buddy, Mike Rumley-Wells.
> Aaron

=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:30:34 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

These 41 people have voted so far:  Aaron Shirley, Bob Bannon, Bob
Corvello, Bob Donaldson, Bob Neill, Bob Reed, Carl Mura, Chris
Stufflestreet, Doug Dejong, Fr. Pat Wattigny, Gary Mandell, Geno
Wagner, Glenn Codere, Grant Rainsley, Greg Conway, Jeff Delott, Jeff
Sinclair, Jeffrey Newman, Jim Beauchemin, Joel Freedman, Joel
Gyselinck, John Harrell, John Leroux, John Stamper, Joshua Levine, Ken
Pillion, Kevin Martens, Larry Gersbach, Linda Fitak, Mac Wubben, Mark
Holland, Mark Talbot, Mark Zentkovich, Marshall West, Mike
Rumley-Wells, Peter Mead, Ray Luurs, Rob Gioia, Sean McGowan, T.J.
Valacak, Wayne Delia.

Anyone else?  Please vote by 11:59 tonight Eastern time.  You may vote
for up to 10 of the candidates listed below, or add additional
candidates by write-in.

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams

Write-ins to date:
Billy Hoeft
Joe Jackson
Jim Kaat
Tony Kubek
Roger Maris
Bobby Richardson
Pete Rose

=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:18:53 -0800 (PST)
To: uthminsta1 , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: EEK 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

After much deliberation and careful consideration here are my votes for induction into the HOF:
Rickey Henderson (with bias)
Bert Blyleven
Jack Morris
Jim Rice
Alan Trammell
Write in:
Joe Jackson
Billy Hoeft

From: uthminsta1 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:30:34 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

These 41 people have voted so far: Aaron Shirley, Bob Bannon, Bob
Corvello, Bob Donaldson, Bob Neill, Bob Reed, Carl Mura, Chris
Stufflestreet, Doug Dejong, Fr. Pat Wattigny, Gary Mandell, Geno
Wagner, Glenn Codere, Grant Rainsley, Greg Conway, Jeff Delott, Jeff
Sinclair, Jeffrey Newman, Jim Beauchemin, Joel Freedman, Joel
Gyselinck, John Harrell, John Leroux, John Stamper, Joshua Levine, Ken
Pillion, Kevin Martens, Larry Gersbach, Linda Fitak, Mac Wubben, Mark
Holland, Mark Talbot, Mark Zentkovich, Marshall West, Mike
Rumley-Wells, Peter Mead, Ray Luurs, Rob Gioia, Sean McGowan, T.J.
Valacak, Wayne Delia.

Anyone else? Please vote by 11:59 tonight Eastern time. You may vote
for up to 10 of the candidates listed below, or add additional
candidates by write-in.

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams

Write-ins to date:
Billy Hoeft
Joe Jackson
Jim Kaat
Tony Kubek
Roger Maris
Bobby Richardson
Pete Rose

=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:57:57 -0800 (PST)
To: uthminsta1 , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

OBCers --

I want to add another vote to my tally...Mark Grace.

Was he a HOFer? Probably not, although he did have more hits in the 90'sthan
any other player. He's more likey an HOMer for the spirit with which
he played the game. He always looked like he was having fun, and aways
wanted to win with style. He was a leader, and that's hard to quantify.
A class act that was good for the game of basebal!

Take Care,

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, EEK  wrote:

From: EEK 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot
To: "uthminsta1" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:18 PM

After much deliberation and careful consideration here are my votes for induction
into the HOF:
Rickey Henderson (with bias)
Bert Blyleven
Jack Morris
Jim Rice
Alan Trammell
Write in:
Joe Jackson
Billy Hoeft

From: uthminsta1 
To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:30:34 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

These 41 people have voted so far: Aaron Shirley, Bob Bannon, Bob
Corvello, Bob Donaldson, Bob Neill, Bob Reed, Carl Mura, Chris
Stufflestreet, Doug Dejong, Fr. Pat Wattigny, Gary Mandell, Geno
Wagner, Glenn Codere, Grant Rainsley, Greg Conway, Jeff Delott, Jeff
Sinclair, Jeffrey Newman, Jim Beauchemin, Joel Freedman, Joel
Gyselinck, John Harrell, John Leroux, John Stamper, Joshua Levine, Ken
Pillion, Kevin Martens, Larry Gersbach, Linda Fitak, Mac Wubben, Mark
Holland, Mark Talbot, Mark Zentkovich, Marshall West, Mike
Rumley-Wells, Peter Mead, Ray Luurs, Rob Gioia, Sean McGowan, T.J.
Valacak, Wayne Delia.

Anyone else? Please vote by 11:59 tonight Eastern time. You may vote
for up to 10 of the candidates listed below, or add additional
candidates by write-in.

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams

Write-ins to date:
Billy Hoeft
Joe Jackson
Jim Kaat
Tony Kubek
Roger Maris
Bobby Richardson
Pete Rose

=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:57:50 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Richard Dingman" 
Subject: '87 Elias Baseball Analyst Softcover Book

I came across one of these, nice condition, only very lightly used.
Anyone have any need for it?
Richard D

=================

Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:40:36 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

It seems like the "L" on my keyboard is not working very well...I missed two
of them in that last email and at least two more as I typed this one...

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Geno Wagner  wrote:

From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot
To: "uthminsta1" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "EEK"
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:57 PM

OBCers --

I want to add another vote to my tally...Mark Grace.

Was he a HOFer? Probably not, although he did have more hits in the 90'sthan
any other player. He's more likey an HOMer for the spirit with which
he played the game. He always looked like he was having fun, and aways
wanted to win with style. He was a leader, and that's hard to quantify.
A class act that was good for the game of basebal!

Take Care,

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, EEK  wrote:

From: EEK 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot
To: "uthminsta1" , OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:18 PM

After much deliberation and careful consideration here are my votes for induction
into the HOF:
Rickey Henderson (with bias)
Bert Blyleven
Jack Morris
Jim Rice
Alan Trammell
Write in:
Joe Jackson
Billy Hoeft

From: uthminsta1 
To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:30:34 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] last day to cast your 2009 HOF ballot

These 41 people have voted so far: Aaron Shirley, Bob Bannon, Bob
Corvello, Bob Donaldson, Bob Neill, Bob Reed, Carl Mura, Chris
Stufflestreet, Doug Dejong, Fr. Pat Wattigny, Gary Mandell, Geno
Wagner, Glenn Codere, Grant Rainsley, Greg Conway, Jeff Delott, Jeff
Sinclair, Jeffrey Newman, Jim Beauchemin, Joel Freedman, Joel
Gyselinck, John Harrell, John Leroux, John Stamper, Joshua Levine, Ken
Pillion, Kevin Martens, Larry Gersbach, Linda Fitak, Mac Wubben, Mark
Holland, Mark Talbot, Mark Zentkovich, Marshall West, Mike
Rumley-Wells, Peter Mead, Ray Luurs, Rob Gioia, Sean McGowan, T.J.
Valacak, Wayne Delia.

Anyone else? Please vote by 11:59 tonight Eastern time. You may vote
for up to 10 of the candidates listed below, or add additional
candidates by write-in.

Harold Baines
Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
David Cone
Andre Dawson
Ron Gant
Mark Grace
Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
Greg Vaughn
Mo Vaughn
Matt Williams

Write-ins to date:
Billy Hoeft
Joe Jackson
Jim Kaat
Tony Kubek
Roger Maris
Bobby Richardson
Pete Rose

=================

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:02:25 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: THE RESULTS ARE IN!

CONGRATULATIONS TO
RICKEY NELSON HENLEY HENDERSON
 !
OBC HAS VOTED YOU THE HOF CLASS OF 2009!

With 45 ballots cast, 34 votes were needed to gain "election."
The complete results are:

VOTES, PLAYER, PERCENTAGE
41 - Rickey Henderson - 91%
23 - Jim Rice - 51%
22 - Bert Blyleven - 49%
16 - Andre Dawson - 36%
14 - Jack Morris - 31%
10 - Lee Smith - 22%
9 - Don Mattingly - 20%
8 - write-in: Pete Rose - 18%
7 - Tommy John - 16%
6 - Tim Raines, Alan Trammell, write-in Joe Jackson - 13%
5 - Dale Murphy - 11%
4 - Mark McGwire - 9%
2 - Harold Baines, David Cone, Mark Grace, Dave Parker, write-in Billy
Hoeft    - 4%
1 - write-ins Jim Kaat, Tony Kubek, Roger Maris, Tony Oliva, Bobby
Richardson - 2%
0 - Jay Bell, Ron Gant, Jesse Orosco, Dan Plesac, Greg Vaughn, Mo
Vaughn, Matt Williams - 0%

Thank you to all the participants.

=================

To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:28:17 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: 110+card lot 1952-56 Topps and Bowman Ebay purchase

Hi All!
To those of you who did respond that you were interested in sharing thewealth
in this lot, let me first off tell you we have some Tipton beautieshere.
While there are some good stars from 1953-55 Bowman, and 1952-56 Topps,
most of the cards are off condition.  The 55 Aaron has been trimmed onthe
left side, though it is pretty clean and in nice shape otherwise.  The54
Lasorda rookie is creased on the front fairly badly, and the 54 Topps Snider
has "Mets" written in ink on the front.  Nonetheless, these are some of
the cards that are available in this lot.  I bought it....so let me listwhat
is available for you all, and you give me an idea of what's fair if you
want to purchase.  I'm open to trades too, if that works better for someof

1952 Topps

#59 Roberts red back, some paper loss on front, creasing top left and right.
96 Marshall red, two small paper loss on front at top, crease top middle
107 Ryan red, paper loss on back, creases on front
209 Fox, some paper loss and glue residue on front
225 Baumholtz ink stains on back, creases on front
229 Beardon soft corners
234 Souchock creasing on front
257 Avila small stains on right edge, not too bad otherwise
284 Arft paper loss on back, creasing front
300 McCosky paper loss on back, not too bad on front

53 Topps
#79 Wyrostek paper loss back
88 Jones, creasing front, some glue residue back
186 Bishop not too bad

53 Bowman Color
#93 Martin-Rizzuto trimmed, no white borders
95 Moses ink stain top right front
140 Brazle small paper loss front center and bottom

53 Bowman B&W
#35 Wyrostek creases on front, small paper loss on the back, very readable
47 Lohrke nice front, big paper loss back
58 Konstanty nice front, big paper loss back

54 Bowman
31 Burgess small paper loss front left, glue residue back

54 Topps
#8 Young, this is an OBC gem, he's been traded to Indians, complete with redone
hat and Tribe logo, along with writing telling us he is a Cleveland Indian.
15 Rosen
24 Hamner
32 Snider as previously mentioned
36 Wilhelm clean, some creases, clean back.
65 Swift KC written on front
73 Terwilliger
78 Kazanski pinhole top center
91 Oldis slightly trimmed
104 Sandlock creased front, small paper loss back
108 Kipper creased front
127 O'Neill creased front, glue residue back
132 Lasorda rookie, heavy creases front, clean back
150 Kryhoski creased front, clean back
214 Portocarrero
228 Hermanski small paper loss bottom left corner
245 Sievers paper loss top left corner
247 Mayo

1955 Bowman
7 Baker
117 Groth trimmed on right side
155 Staley
179 Aaron trimmed left side
201 Allie Reynolds Tipton mint
212 Dittmer trimmed right side
218 Adcock

1955 Topps
42 McCall
52 Tremel trimmed top and bottom
71 Gomez creases front
80 Grim, paper loss left side, heavy creases front
109 Eddie Lopat, written Coach underneath scratched position of pitcher front;
coach written on back too
117 Roach stained on front
151 Kress creased on front

1956 Topps
2 Giles white, creased but clean
4 Paula gray, face faded, some paper loss back
26 Hatton white, paper loss back
57 Maas white, paper loss lower left edge
59 Santiago white, lower left tip paper loss
63 Craig gray, clean
65 O'Brien white, top left tip bitten off
71 Sullivan white, clean and complete
75 Sievers white, paper loss top right corner
84 Birrer gray, paper loss lower left corner
86 Jablonski gray, complete
138 Antonelli gray, paper loss lower right corner
140 Score rookie gray, creasing on front by face, not too bad
141 Frazier white, creasing front
147 Torgeson gray, paper loss lower right corner
167 Dorish white (I think, it's a bit stained), major creases
170 Virdon white, clean except for Pitts written under St. Louis scratched out
and a 5/15 (56? day of trade) on front
186 Jackson gray, hole punch top center
230 Carrasquel gray, somebody stained a gap in black between his teeth!
237 Valdivielso gray, clean
268 Mitchell gray, clean and complete, though a bit rough
300 Wertz gray, creases on front

Let me know what you might want out of this lot.  I have some other 1952 Topps
that I still need from the lot, but am willing to listen to offers.  Ifyou
are interested in those, ask me and I'll send the numbers to you.

Thanks all!

Fr. Pat

Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail.
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=================

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 08:27:53 EST
To: david.fallen@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Like Spike, I am not familiar with with TCMA issue, even though I (and Linda)
do try and collect TCMA cards.  I do not find many, if any, TCMA cards that
go for that mush money, so I agree $15 a card seems unusually high.  Even the
$5, Dave mentioned seems high for TCMA.
Can you send us a checklist and scan.  It may belong in the big SCD,
and even if it does not, I would want the checklist.
Mike Rich
In a message dated 1/9/09 11:55:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
david.fallen@comcast.net writes:

> Spike:  I have this set and I like it a lot.  I would call the cards
> uncommon, but not rare.  I have 2 of the #5 Elmer Singleton cards, one in my PCL
> binder and one in my Seattle Rainiers binder.  I've had the cards for some time
> now so I haven't been tracking the availability or prices over the last
> year.  I'm thinking I paid more like $5 - $6 apiece for them (in fact, I'm pretty
> sure several were under $5).  Relatively unusual cards like these have
> selling prices all over the place.  You could probably get one for less if you are
> really patient, but it might take a year or two.  And of course, it only
> takes two idiots with deep pockets who want the same card to drive the price to
> ridiculous levels.  However, I'm pretty sure all the deep-pocket PCL
> collectors already have these cards.  Unlike certain popcorn cards, these TCMA cards
> will certainly pop up again - I just can't predict the price.  Hope this
> helps.

New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002)

=================

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:10:50 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "rlabs1" 
Subject: Card show in Phoenix

This has been a good sports year for me - so far. I got to see my
Phillies in 2 games in the National League Championship series and now
I am hoping to see my Eagles play in Phoenix next Sunday in the NFC
championship game. I was wondering if anyone would know if there were
any card shows next wekend in Phoenix?

Saved the best for last - I became a grandpa for the first time 5
weeeks ago.

Fly, Eagles, Fly
Richard Labs

=================

Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:21:43 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com
Subject: I am happy some players who really deserve to be in the Hall got votes

The best thing about the Hall of Fame voting to me is that some outstanding
players who really deserve to be in the Hall got some votes:
Bobby Richardson
Tony Kubek
Roger Maris

New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews00000002)

=================

To: rrrlyons@msn.com, familytoad@comcast.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:20:33 -0500
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704

Send your wantlist to Gary Mandell.? He is collecting all 1990s. LOL.
Mike Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: LYONS RONI rrrlyons@msn.com

I'm at 1990 to finish not counting variations. I add the variations when the set is close to completion right now I have the 59 and 60 set listed soon I'll added the 62. I?also will probably never try to do 52 high's but some day add back variations of the 50's sets as they get closer to being done. Rick

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: familytoad@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:06:09 -0800
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704

This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close.

Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cards in the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel free to post the total in your math:)

So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite players.

Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how far along are you? How many are done?

Here's mine :

I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only a?few complete :

1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980)

Whaddy say?

OBC Forever

=================

To: jimbo7777777@earthlink.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:33:24 -0500
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704

If anyone's lists reflect this, mine do. With 200 different vintage BB
sets done, I still have about 300 on my lists. Many of these are just
obscure, not expensive.
Mike Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Beauchemin 
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; richard dingman 
Sent: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 1:48 am
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704

There's always something to collect, believe me. I branched out into Kelloggs,
Post, Exhibits and Bowmans, among others. There's so much great
stuff out there, I can't imagine progressing to the point where one has
nothing to collect.

----- Original Message -----

From: richard dingman

To: vrechek@ameritech.net ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:52 AM

Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704

That's something I have wondered ... how do advanced members of trading groupsprogress
when they seem to be beyond the ability of the group to assist?
Perhaps it is something beyond the ability of the trading groups to address.

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: vrechek@ameritech.net
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:26:14 -0600
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:16704

I need 9 cards =E2=93 and have needed just them for at least 10 years: 7of
the 52 high$ and the rookie $eaver and Ro$e cards. Ten years from now I=E2=99ll
still need 9 cards.

George Vrechek

=================

To: ,
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:27:10 -0800
From: "Dave Fallen" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Five dollars may be a lot for a TCMA card, but PCL cards seem to carry a premium.
Anyway, below is the checklist.  I am including a scan of Cal McLish
mainly because I love all of his names (see card back).  I could scan them
all but I'm not sure what to do with the results.  I guess I could put them
on a web page.  The cards are 2 5/8 inches by 4 5/8 inches, black and white.

#1 Ernie Broglio, 1954 Oaks
#2 Karl Drews, 1955 Oaks
#3 Cal McLish, 1955 Padres
#4 Art Shallock, 1954 Oaks
#5 Elmer Singleton, 1955 Rainiers
#6 "Chuck" Dressen, 1955 Oaks
#7 Geo. Bamberger, 1954 Oaks
#8 Charlie Beamon, 1954 Oaks
#9 Billy Consolo, 1955 Oaks
#10 Jim Atkins, 1954 Oaks
#11 Jack Lohrke, 1955 Stars
#12 Carmen Mauro, 1955 Rainiers
#13 Sam Chapman, 1954 Oaks
#14 Geo. Metkovich, 1956 Mounties
#15 Lee Walls, 1954 Stars
#16 Ron Jackson, 1956 Mounties
#17 Leo Thomas, 1953 Rainiers
#18 Jim Walsh, 1955 Seals

----- Original Message -----
From: Mikesportsfan@aol.com
To: david.fallen@comcast.net ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; obc_spike@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Like Spike, I am not familiar with with TCMA issue, even though I (and Linda)
do try and collect TCMA cards.  I do not find many, if any, TCMA cardsthat
go for that mush money, so I agree $15 a card seems unusually high.  Even
the $5, Dave mentioned seems high for TCMA.
Can you send us a checklist and scan.  It may belong in the big SCD,
and even if it does not, I would want the checklist.
Mike Rich
In a message dated 1/9/09 11:55:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, david.fallen@comcast.net

Spike:  I have this set and I like it a lot.  I would call the cards uncommon,
but not rare.  I have 2 of the #5 Elmer Singleton cards, one in my PCL
binder and one in my Seattle Rainiers binder.  I've had the cards for some
time now so I haven't been tracking the availability or prices over thelast
year.  I'm thinking I paid more like $5 - $6 apiece for them (in fact,
I'm pretty sure several were under $5).  Relatively unusual cards like these
have selling prices all over the place.  You could probably get one forless
if you are really patient, but it might take a year or two.  And of course,
it only takes two idiots with deep pockets who want the same card todrive
the price to ridiculous levels.  However, I'm pretty sure all the deep-pocket
PCL collectors already have these cards.  Unlike certain popcorn cards,
these TCMA cards will certainly pop up again - I just can't predict the
price.  Hope this helps.

New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncidemlcntusnews00000002)
=================

Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:03:35 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: THE REAL RESULTS!!!

It's official...
Rickey and Rice are in!!!

=================

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:30:57 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Keith" 
Subject: AutoZone & Club Crackers football cards

Last night I saw a football card offer on a box of Club Crackers. It
wasn't regular Club Crackers they were something pretty new and called
SNAPS or something. It's probably something that has been on the
shelf for months before the bowl game. It may have also been on the
reg boxes for all I know. Anyway, with each box purchase you have a
chance of winning signed cards of NFL HOFers I believe it was. It
showed 3 guys on the front which I can't even remember their names
[slack!]. Seems like Franco Harris was 1 of them and Jerry Rice was
1. I was in a hurry so I didn't read to see if it listed odds or
whatever but I think the offer expired 3-31-09. So check your local
stores if you care!

Then today at AutoZone at the register they had FREE packs of Liberty
Bowl 50th Anniv. promo cards! My 2 sealed packs both have the 1982
game where ALA beat Illinois in Bear Bryant's final game [card #5] and
he is on the front. Looks like 8-10 ultra thin cards in the pack.
Anybody have more info? Is it a 50 card set?

Keith Summers

=================

To: 
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:33:14 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: Finally!

Well from the earliest Top 5 lists that appeared on my wantlist some 8 years
ago...finally ebay delivered a ridiculous cheap 1938 Goudey Ernie Lombardi.
I think that list has only seen 5 or so hits in that time, so it's niceto
cross one off.  Ernie had been the most achievable one for about 5 years,
but I never seemed to land one.  Not sure what to replace it with.  I'venever
even seen any on the top three, the w555 lajoie always seems like too
much money for a strip card (though I've been the under bidder on about three).

Equally important, an exciting event over the past weekend...Alesia was foolish
enough to agree to marry me.  She is already on the wedding planning train.
There is an outside shot it could be at the Rangers stadium (which we
could get), but she wants it in california for some crazy reason.  I guess
I should get used to 'compromise'.

Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail.
http://windowslive.com/explore?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009
=================

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:38:12 -0800 (PST)
To: Mac Wubben , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

That's great news! You must be a very happy and proud man!

Oh, and congrats on the wedding thing, too.

From: Mac Wubben 
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:33:14 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

Well from theearliestTop 5 lists that appeared on my wantlist some 8 years
ago...finally ebay delivered a ridiculous cheap 1938 Goudey Ernie Lombardi.
I think that list has only seen 5 or so hits in that time, so it's
nice to cross one off. Ernie had been the most achievable one for about
5years, but I never seemed to land one. Not sure what to replace itwith.
I've never even seen any on the top three, the w555 lajoie alwaysseems
like too much money for a strip card (though I've been the under bidder
on about three).

Equally important, an exciting event over the past weekend...Alesia was foolish
enough to agree to marry me. She is already on the wedding planningtrain.
There is an outside shot it could be at the Rangers stadium (which
we could get), but she wants it in california for some crazy reason. I
guess I should get used to 'compromise' .

Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. Check itout.

=================

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:16:08 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

Mac --

At least you could get it catered by In-N-Out Burger if you have it in California!

Congrats, my friend!

Take Care,

--- On Mon, 1/12/09, Mac Wubben  wrote:

From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:33 PM

Well from theearliestTop 5 lists that appeared on my wantlist some 8 years
ago...finally ebay delivered a ridiculous cheap 1938 Goudey Ernie Lombardi.
I think that list has only seen 5 or so hits in that time, so it's
nice to cross one off. Ernie had been the most achievable one for about
5years, but I never seemed to land one. Not sure what to replace itwith.
I've never even seen any on the top three, the w555 lajoie alwaysseems
like too much money for a strip card (though I've been the under bidder
on about three).

Equally important, an exciting event over the past weekend...Alesia was foolish
enough to agree to marry me. She is already on the wedding planningtrain.
There is an outside shot it could be at the Rangers stadium (which
we could get), but she wants it in california for some crazy reason. I
guess I should get used to 'compromise' .

Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. Check itout.

=================

To: , "Mac Wubben" 
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:40:34 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

Congrats on the Goudey addition.  I've still got 2 to go on the set and youknow
who he is.
Advice for marriage survival: Learn the 2 most important phrases for a husband.

1) "Yes, Dear!!"

2) "My fault"

These have stood me in good stead for 30+ years.

On Mon 01/12/09 10:33 PM , Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com sent:
> Well from the earliest Top 5 lists that appeared on my wantlist
> some 8 years ago...finally ebay delivered a ridiculous cheap 1938
> Goudey Ernie Lombardi.  I think that list has only seen 5 or so hits
> in that time, so it's nice to cross one off.  Ernie had been the most
> achievable one for about 5 years, but I never seemed to land one.  Not
> sure what to replace it with.  I've never even seen any on the top
> three, the w555 lajoie always seems like too much money for a strip
> card (though I've been the under bidder on about three).
> Equally important, an exciting event over the past weekend...Alesia
> was foolish enough to agree to marry me.  She is already on the
> wedding planning train.  There is an outside shot it could be at the
> Rangers stadium (which we could get), but she wants it in california
> for some crazy reason.  I guess I should get used to 'compromise'.
> Mac
> -------------------------
> Windows Live=E2=84=A2 Hotmail=AE: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail.
> Check it out. [1]
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=================

Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:05:14 -0800 (PST)
To: obcjohn@knology.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: Matthew 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

Congratulations, Mac, that's great news! I can add one thing to Bama's list below.

3) "When I called that [newly arrived pre-war card] the best thing ever, I'm not including every day with you, hon."

----- Original Message ----
From: "obcjohn@knology.net" 
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Mac Wubben 
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:40:34 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

Congrats on the Goudey addition.  I've still got 2 to go on the set and you know who he is.
Advice for marriage survival: Learn the 2 most important phrases for a husband.

1) "Yes, Dear!!"

2) "My fault"

These have stood me in good stead for 30+ years.

=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:09:52 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: needing a little vintage football bv help please

I am trying to put together a trade for the following football
cards...I don't have a football beckett. anyone able to help please?

1969 topps football

34 Merlin Olsen...ex
93 Tommy Nobis...ex
123 Alex Karras...vg/ex
192 Nick Buoniconti...vg+
229 Mike Curtis RC...ex-mt
238 Deacon Jones...vg+

=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:50:10 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "distelrath66" 
Subject: I am back in the hospital again, so I found something to do to kill some time.

I took the OBC directory and put a thumbtack onto every members
address.  Doing this, I have noticed a couple of things.  First off,
we hardly have any members from the center of the nation.  Next, it
seems that the majority of us live in New York and Virginia.  Another
thing that I noticed was that around 80% of us live within 5 miles of
a baseball diamond.  I am attaching the entire United states
photograph, as well as a picture of the north eastern side of the
United States.  Even zoomed into the northeastern side, some of the
members cannot be seen because they live too close together.  All and
all, I guess you can say I was pretty bored.  it was entertaining
though.  So, without any further ado here are the links to the two

ENTIRE NORTH AMERICA
src"http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg"
width"640" height"480">

(in case that didnt work)
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg

NORTHEAST AMERICA
src"http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg"
width"640" height"480">

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg

And let us not forget our friend from Scotland, Glenn Codere


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/Glenn.jpg

I do apologize if I forward you with this post.  As previously
mentioned I am bored to tears and I thought this might be a fun
project.  I hope you guys enjoy it and wish me luck on my surgery

Ryan Distelrath

=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:44:19 EST
To: ryandistelrath@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I am back in the hospital again, so I found something to ...

I think what you have done is awesome. Hope all is well and hope you feel
better man

Rob "The FIREMAN"

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=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:58:07 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Thanks to Dave and everyone else who followed up on my TCMA 1950s PCL question! Sounds like $15 is steep even by Steepy McSteep's standards, so I'll pass for now and look for another one down the line. Like Dave, I enjoyed the number of names on old Cal McLish...

From: Dave Fallen 
To: obc ramblings ; Matthew 
Sent: Friday, January 9, 2009 11:54:49 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this oddball worth it? (1975 TCMA 1950's PCL)

Spike:  I have this set and I like it a
lot.  I would call the cards uncommon, but not rare.  I have 2 of the
#5 Elmer Singleton cards, one in my PCL binder and one in my Seattle Rainiers
binder.  I've had the cards for some time now so I haven't been tracking
the availability or prices over the last year.  I'm thinking I paid more
like $5 - $6 apiece for them (in fact, I'm pretty sure several were under
$5).  Relatively unusual cards like these have selling prices all over the
place.  You could probably get one for less if you are really patient, but
it might take a year or two.  And of course, it only takes two idiots with
deep pockets who want the same card to drive the price to ridiculous
levels.  However, I'm pretty sure all the deep-pocket PCL collectors
already have these cards.  Unlike certain popcorn cards, these TCMA cards
will certainly pop up again - I just can't predict the price.  Hope this

-Dave Fallen

=================

To: 
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:14:00 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Re:I am back in the hospital again, so I found something to do to kill

Nice effort on the maps. It helps associate the names, faces, and places. We
have the world of OBC covered! We hope you are doing well.

George Vrechek

=================

To: 
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:18:19 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Re:needing a little vintage football bv help please

My latest Tuff Stuff is from July 2007. It doesn't list any of those guys.
The cheapest card they bothered to use up ink to list is at $15. Minor stars
are $2 to $3 in Nr Mt per the price guide. Someone should be more up to date
but it may be that the values are modest.

George Vrechek

=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:24:15 EST
To: ryandistelrath@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I am back in the hospital again, so I found something to ...

Back when I first started trading on Prodigy and then when OBC first  started
I had a map of the United States that I would pin every time I traded  with
or received something new in the mail. When I moved in 1999, I took the map
down but at the time it had nearly 200 pins in it with the majority being
OBCers. I loved that map and it was interesting. We used to have more members in
the midwest (Guru was in OK, along with Mark Shelton, Mickey Morrison, and a
few  others). Todd still lives in the middle of nowhere (j/k) though.

PS I am wearing shorts an a T-shirt to work today as the temp. is going to
be 84 degrees in Castaic! Sorry everyone.

In a message dated 1/13/2009 11:50:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
ryandistelrath@gmail.com writes:

I  took the OBC directory and put a thumbtack onto every  members
address.  Doing this, I have noticed a couple of things.   First off,
we hardly have any members from the center of the nation.   Next, it
seems that the majority of us live in New York and Virginia.   Another
thing that I noticed was that around 80% of us live within 5 miles  of
a baseball diamond.  I am attaching the entire United  states
photograph, as well as a picture of the north eastern side of  the
United States.  Even zoomed into the northeastern side, some of  the
members cannot be seen because they live too close together.  All  and
all, I guess you can say I was pretty bored.  it was  entertaining
though.  So, without any further ado here are the links  to the two

ENTIRE NORTH  AMERICA
src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg"
width="640"  height="480">

(in case that didnt  work)
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg

NORTHEAST  AMERICA
src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg"
width="640"  height="480">

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg

And  let us not forget our friend from Scotland, Glenn Codere


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/Glenn.jpg

I do apologize if I forward you with this post.  As  previously
mentioned I am bored to tears and I thought this might be a  fun
project.  I hope you guys enjoy it and wish me luck on my  surgery

Ryan  Distelrath

OBC  is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee.
The  Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly
at  www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:36:56 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Joshua buys a collection...OBC benefits

So, about 4 months ago, I won a poorly listed collection on ebay. Total
spent was about $500 for nearly 25,000 cards. Included in the collection was
cards from 1954-1984. The owner consigned them to one of those drop off stores
and the store just threw it up on the ebay with a limited description. The one
thing that caught my eye was a few phillies stars including a Jenkins rc. I
started emailing and found out that the collection actually contained 5000
cards  from 1954-1977. The other cards were later and oddball stuff. I finally
finished  sorting through it and was shocked. I ended up with over 1,000 star
cards  including a Jenkins RC, '71 Nolan Ryan, '67 Frank Robinson, Mantle, '58
Mantle,  Musial, '78 Murray etc. I also ended up with nearly 2,000 Phillies. Six
complete sets as well, 1979-84. Oh, out of the entire collection, there was
just  one Phillie I was able to knock off my list!! Sheesh.

For the last week, I have been putting together envelopes and now am nearly
ready to send out cards to as many people as I could. I think I have over 100
packages. This is my first big mailing in a long time. I tried to get
everyone I  could. In the coming weeks, watch your boxes. My little cardboard
economic  stimulus plan.

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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:34:31 EST
To: obc_spike@yahoo.com, obcjohn@knology.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!

Let me add my Congrats to the chorus.  Sounds like you are getting
sage advice.  I am getting quite nervous as one of the elder OBC bachelors, who
has never been married,  Morganti, Rittenberg and now you.  Should we start a
new poll on whether there is still hope for me, or is it that I am doomed???
Interpretation as to what the doom would be is for the individual reader.
Mike Rich
In a message dated 1/13/09 11:12:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
obc_spike@yahoo.com writes:

> Congratulations, Mac, that's great news! I can add one thing to Bama's list
> below.
> 3) "When I called that [newly arrived pre-war card] the best thing ever, I'm
> not including every day with you, hon."
> Spike
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "obcjohn@knology.net" 
> To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Mac Wubben 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:40:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Finally!
> Congrats on the Goudey addition. I've still got 2 to go on the set and you
> know who he is.
> Advice for marriage survival: Learn the 2 most important phrases for a
> husband.
> 1) "Yes, Dear!!"
> 2) "My fault"

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=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:54:47 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" 
Subject: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

This is a reminder that there is a Redford show this Sunday, January
18.  Pleas elet us know if you will be atending.  I haved e-mailed Mike
Sandles to verify his attendance, but have not heard back.
Mike Rich

=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:00:54 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" 
Subject: dis n dat

I made it back to Detroit today afte ra short business trip to Denver.
The trip was fromt eh airport to the hotel, with my boss, seminar that
I was a speaker for all of 8 minutes yesterday and then back to the
airport at 8:30 this morning.  I am happy that I rarely have to travel
for business as this was not fun.  Of course, the trip caused me to
turn down an invite to a suite to see th epIstons on Tuesday and then
Peter Mead came to town for Tuesday and today.  Peter had planned to
stay at my house, expect I was not here yesterday.  Peter had planned
to come over tonite to visit and spend the nite, but between my jet
lag, his not feeling well and really sloppy roads due to the weather,
he had to cancel.  What a disappointing week so far.  Weather report
for the next few days has a high of 13 or so degrees Fahrenheit.  At
least I can plan to attend the card show on Sunday.
Mike Rich

=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:35:31 -0600
To: distelrath66 
From: Yaz 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I am back in the hospital again, so I found something

Interesting. Seems however Randy Griffin's thumbtack should be attached
to mine, (about 40 miles apart) and I don't see it.

Greg (yaz)

distelrath66 wrote:
> I took the OBC directory and put a thumbtack onto every members
> address. Doing this, I have noticed a couple of things. First off,
> we hardly have any members from the center of the nation. Next, it
> seems that the majority of us live in New York and Virginia. Another
> thing that I noticed was that around 80% of us live within 5 miles of
> a baseball diamond. I am attaching the entire United states
> photograph, as well as a picture of the north eastern side of the
> United States. Even zoomed into the northeastern side, some of the
> members cannot be seen because they live too close together. All and
> all, I guess you can say I was pretty bored. it was entertaining
> though. So, without any further ado here are the links to the two
> photographs.
> ENTIRE NORTH AMERICA
>  src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg
> "
> width="640" height="480">
> (in case that didnt work)
> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg
> 
> NORTHEAST AMERICA
>  src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg
> "
> width="640" height="480">
> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg
> 
> And let us not forget our friend from Scotland, Glenn Codere
>  width="640" height="480">
> http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/Glenn.jpg
> 
> I do apologize if I forward you with this post. As previously
> mentioned I am bored to tears and I thought this might be a fun
> project. I hope you guys enjoy it and wish me luck on my surgery
> tomorrow.
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Distelrath

=================

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:52:51 -0600
To: distelrath66 
From: ddejong@everestkc.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I am back in the hospital again,


    First, I hope you are feeling better, the surgery goes great, and you are out of the hospital soon!  
    

    Second, thanks for doing this.....too cool!  Yes, it is a bit lonely in the central US right now.  Curiously, Kansas City is down to one major card show a year, and that isn't even that well attended.  Tri-Star pulled out a couple of years ago.  Very few shops left too.
    

    ----- Original Message -----
    

    From: distelrath66 <ryandistelrath@gmail.com>

    Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:50 am

    Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I am back in the hospital again, so I found something to do to kill some time.

    >  I took the OBC directory and put a thumbtack onto every members 
    > address.  Doing this, I have noticed a couple of things.  First off, 
    > we hardly have any members from the center of the nation.  Next, it 
    > seems that the majority of us live in New York and Virginia.  Another 
    > thing that I noticed was that around 80% of us live within 5 miles of 
    > a baseball diamond.  I am attaching the entire United states 
    > photograph, as well as a picture of the north eastern side of the 
    > United States.  Even zoomed into the northeastern side, some of the 
    > members cannot be seen because they live too close together.  All and 
    > all, I guess you can say I was pretty bored.  it was entertaining 
    > though.  So, without any further ado here are the links to the two 
    > photographs. 
    > 
    > ENTIRE NORTH AMERICA 
    > <img 
    
> src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg" 
    > width="640" height="480"> 
    > 
    > (in case that didnt work) 
    > http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/TheGang.jpg 
    > 
    > 
    > NORTHEAST AMERICA 
    > <img 
    > src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg" 
    > width="640" height="480"> 
    > 
    > http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/NYarea.jpg 
    > 
    > And let us not forget our friend from Scotland, Glenn Codere 
    > <img src="http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/Glenn.jpg" 
    > width="640" height="480"> 
    > 
    > http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/distelrath/Glenn.jpg 
    > 
    >  I do apologize if I forward you with this post.  As previously 
    > mentioned I am bored to tears and I thought this might be a fun 
    
> project.  I hope you guys enjoy it and wish me luck on my surgery 
    > tomorrow. 
    > 
    > Sincerely, 
    > 
    > Ryan Distelrath 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 

=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:21:33 +0000 (UTC)
To: Brian Lindholme 
From: tvalacak@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704

During our Christmas visit to the in-laws in beautiful Tucson Arizona, I was
able to get a count of what I need. I do not collect the 52 set, only
the White Sox and Red Sox team sets from 52.M y numberreflects
Topps sets from 53-80. I need 341 cards. If I add in the
51 topps red and blues, as well as the 52's that I need for the Soxteam
sets, my number is 387. In 2008, I was able to complete the 58
and 59 sets. I also have completedthe 68-80 sets.
The 55, 56, 60, 64, and 65 sets are all under 10 cards. I
would love to knock out a few of these sets this year. Of course itwill
be tough, as many of the cards on my wantlist are stars and hi #'s.
But, it is exciting to be close. We'll have to see what the
numbers look like come January 2010.

T.J. Valacak
OBC member since August 2005
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 3, 2009 5:06:09 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 16704

This number may not be totally accurate, but I'll bet its close.

Its what I loosely calculated to be the total number of regular Topps cardsin
the 1952-1980 run. Variations shoot this number way over the top. ( Feel
free to post the total in your math:)

So, we've had some fun lately tabulating HOF votes, favorite teams and favorite

Let's see how many of us are trying for the whole 1952-1980 Topps run. And how
far along are you? How many are done?

Here's mine :
I need 2196 which should mean I have 14508 of them. Only afew complete
1953,1960,1972,1973,1974. (Gremlins possible in 1979 and 1980)

Whaddy say?
OBC Forever

=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:54:19 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Mike Mroz" 
Subject: Re: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

I plan to be there on Sunday.  It's mine and Andrea's anniversary that
day, so I won't be able to stay too long, so the plan is to arrive at
the show about 8:30 and spend a couple of hours there.  Hope to see
you there.

--- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "mikesportsfan"
 wrote:
> This is a reminder that there is a Redford show this Sunday, January
> 18.  Pleas elet us know if you will be atending.  I haved e-mailed Mike
> Sandles to verify his attendance, but have not heard back.
> Mike Rich

=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:57:47 -0800 (PST)
To: mikesportsfan , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: EEK 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

I'll be up in Casevilleto watch myGrandson play barn hockey, which will
be a bit cooler then the Redford VFW hall. Have fun, and if anyone stumbles
onto a 50's & or 60's lot I'm interested.
"we keep what we give away!"

From: mikesportsfan 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:54:47 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

This is a reminder that there is a Redford show this Sunday, January
18. Pleas elet us know if you will be atending. I haved e-mailed Mike
Sandles to verify his attendance, but have not heard back.
Mike Rich

=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:41:29 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: Nice blog appreciation for an OBC-quality card

Hi all,

Found this entry on a 1954 Topps Fred March in a blog I sometimes contribute to. (This one isn't mine.) It's a nice distillation of OBC's card appreciation.

http://thingsdonetocards.blogspot.com/2009/01/charlie-brown-christmas-tree-equivalent.html

I also like the comparison to the Peanuts Christmas tree. :)

=================

Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:48:31 +0000 (UTC)
To: Mike Mroz 
From: tvalacak@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

Nothing says "I love you" more than bringing your wife to the card show.
Come on, show off your romantic side.

T.J. Valacak
OBC member since August 2005
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Mroz" 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:54:19 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

I plan to be there on Sunday. It's mine and Andrea's anniversary that
day, so I won't be able to stay too long, so the plan is to arrive at
the show about 8:30 and spend a couple of hours there. Hope to see
you there.

--- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com , "mikesportsfan"
 wrote:
> This is a reminder that there is a Redford show this Sunday, January
> 18. Pleas elet us know if you will be atending. I haved e-mailed Mike
> Sandles to verify his attendance, but have not heard back.
> Mike Rich

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:43:42 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 

Hi OBCers:Thank you to all those who contributed to this auction. The list of items up for auction are listed below.  To bid on any lot, please email me with the lot number and your bid.  I will try to keep the high bids updated as frequently as possible, at least daily. The auction will end at 9pm EST on Sunday, January 25th. I will post a list of the donors, winners and winning bid for each lot. The winners will then send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer and the donors will send the items to the winning bidders. Please do not send any lots or money to me. Please direct questions about specific lots to the donor. Their address is on the OBC directory page. Any general questions about the auction, please email me.  Let the auction begin.  Joe

Lot #
High Bid

1910 Hassan Animal Cards: Cape Hunting Dog, Civet-Cat, Rhino

Spike Glidden

1912 t207 Krause
SGC10 (decent)
Mac Wubben

1933 Goudey lot of 6 (OBC specials!): 14, 26, 30, 33, 34, 36

Spike Glidden

1935 Goudey (Coleman et al)
Mac Wubben

1936 Goudey Bucky Harris
TJ Valacak

1956 topps #173 johnny podres (grey back)
Ant Arbeeny

1956 Topps lot of three 82, 144,168

Brian Betza

1960 fleer football 11 card lot  #93,94,96,114,115,117,120,122,125,126,130
ex with slight trim on top
Ant Arbeeny

1969 Topps #95 Johnny Bench nice image,
fair condition (nasty corner)
Andy Cook

1970 Topps 6 card lot  198 (Mets Celebrate/Ryan) 199 (ALCS-Cuellar) 309(WS-Koosman)346(Schoendienst) 436 (Phillies) 448 (Astros) 696 (Giants)

Brian Betza

1972 BB semi highs 25 different  (#526-655)
avg vg
Mike Rich

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 Topps Willie Mays #49
Ken Pillion

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973-74 lot     1973 Pirates and Red Sox Blue Checklist, 1974 Wash variation # 387, 1974 Red Checklists Giants*, Tigers**, and Phillies**

John Leroux

1973-74 OPC Hockey 100 different
Mike Rich

1973-74 topps basketball #142 earl monroe
Ant Arbeeny

1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete Set
vg condition
Andy Cook

1974 football team checklist starter set with 15 each : lions,patriots,saints,radiers,steelers,oilers,eagles,49ers,cowboys,cards,chargers,bills,browns,bears,bengals
Ant Arbeeny

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1976 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich

1977 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1979 Topps lot of 50 with stars - carew ldr, rice ldr, ryan ldr, morgan, winfield, eck, garvey, stargell, yount, seaver, sutton, bench, mccovey, morris, carew, yaz, perry, cobb ldr, aaron ldrx2, cobb ldr, brock, young ldr, ryan ldr, parker, concepcion, perez, guidry, carter, niekro, yanks, murray, hunter, fisk, jackson

Lynn Miller

1981 Donruss Variation Lot 56a Steve Garvey, 87a Larry Hisle 131a Pete Rose 306a Gary “Mathews” 319a “Dwane” Kuiper 444a Buck Martinez 444b Buck Martinez,483a Ivan DeJesus, 490a Dave Roberts, 524a Ray Burris, 532a Geoff Zahn, 554a Mike Vail, 555a Jerry Martin 556a Jesus Figueroa, 563a Bob Owchinko,  566a “Glen” Adams, 595a Dave Edwards, Checklist 241-360 w/ “Mathews”Checklist 361-480 w/ “Pujois”, Checklist 481-600 w/ “Glen”
Geno Wagner

1981 Topps football 25 cards (Shell, Upshaw, and Deirdorf)

John Leroux

1984 RGI  Willie Mays Story #22 Autographed in blue

John Leroux

1985 (?) Pete Rose Baseball Card Set #49  Autographed in blue

John Leroux

1988 Detroit Pistons Eastern Conference Champion pin

Andy Cook

20 card oddball lot of mostly 1978 TCMA's all Cleveland Indians

John Leroux

2002  Talking Chuck Thompson bobble head--speaks three phrases including "ain't the beer cold!"  Thompson is in the HOF as an announcer and was the voice of both the Colts and the Orioles.
Peter Mead

Scottish Lot: Auto'd 8x10 of Bobby Thomson's "The Shot..." + Official ball marker from 2005 Open Championship (British) at The Old Course, St Andrews

Glen Codere
Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync.
http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009
=================

To: 
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:30:47 -0500
From: "Bob Donaldson" 
Subject: BB Digest online

http://tiny.cc/zhK0b

Pretty cool!

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:48:45 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: the auction!!!

I just threw in my bids for fifteen of the auction lots...
So now you guys gotta outbid me on 'em all... Right?  :)

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:20:01 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "distelrath66" 
Subject: well, the surgery is complete.

They took me downstairs early this morning and rapidly started
getting things going.  The anesthesiologist was going to completely
knocked me out, but that required me to be on a breathing machine, so
I opted out of that.  I figured: I cannot feel it, so why should I be
knocked out?  I did, however, have the anesthesiologist give me the
"calm me down and make me feel good" cocktail for the surgery.  I
figure it this way -- it is the grown-ups version of getting a
lollipop after receiving an injection.  They cut plenty of skin out of
my bedsore, all the way down to the bone.  He told my wound doctor
that my bone was a "dingy" color, which has me scared.  I am now very
prone to a bone infection, if I do not have one already.  If things go
the way they are supposed to, I am getting out of this hospital in the
morning.  They put a device called a wound vac on my wound which keeps
it airtight and sucks all of the leakage out.  from what I hear, they
help bedsores heal very quickly.

Getting the operation such as this was very similar to going to the
dentist.  You can smell the smoke.  Only this time, the smoke comes
from the cauterization of the bloody areas.

I hope I did not make anybody sick by my descriptions, but the
operation was a success and I get to go home simply after my wound
doctor gives the go-ahead.  Thank you everybody for wishing me well.

Ryan Distelrath

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:33:48 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Did my message come through?

Last night I sent a message to the Ramblings server informing the group of a sale currently being run by sma360 Sports Memorabilia in AZ. The message doesn't seem to have appeared on my mail system. Has anyone else received it? The subject line was "Great online card sale"

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:05:50 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] BB Digest online

Thanks for this terrific link. I'm going to work through them and see whichones
I need for my Tigers collection!! (Already spotted 2 from the late 40's!)

From: Bob Donaldson 
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:30:47 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] BB Digest online

http://tiny. cc/zhK0b

Pretty cool!

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:36:57 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Geno's expert opinion, please

Hey Geno,

As OBCs resident flyboy, what did you make of the job that pilot made of ditching his airliner in the Hudson River?

Amazing stuff.

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:51:49 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings ,
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's expert opinion, please

Pretty damned impressive!!

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Glenn Codere  wrote:

From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's expert opinion, please
To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:36 AM

Hey Geno,

As OBCs resident flyboy, what did you make of the job that pilot made of ditching
his airliner in the Hudson River?

Amazing stuff.

=================

To: ,
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:25:27 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's expert opinion, please

Excellent item, thanks for sharing.  I used to love Baseball Digest when I was
a kid.

----- Original Message -----
From: Geno Wagner
To: OBC Ramblings ; Glenn Codere
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's expert opinion, please

Pretty damned impressive!!

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Glenn Codere  wrote:

From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Geno's expert opinion, please
To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 5:36 AM

Hey Geno,

As OBCs resident flyboy, what did you make of the job that pilot made
of ditching his airliner in the Hudson River?

Amazing stuff.

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:41:58 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Birthyear set (1960) completed!!! What next??

You can tell what a boring day its been at work today, judging by the number
of emails I've pushed in OBCs direction!!

It's just dawned on me that with all the excitement of the past holiday season,
I forgot to inform the group of a fairly major acheivement. I've finally
put my 1960 Topps set to rest!!!

The last purchased card was the Mantle AS, which I was lucky enough to nailfor
the princely sum of $35 (Thanks to Mike Rumley-Wells for helping to broker
that deal whenI ran into some payment issues with the seller!) The last
2 cards to be placed in the binder (McCoveyRC & Mantle AS) were received
in a consignment from Bill Ashton a short time ago. As many of you know,Bill
as been acting as my "go to guy" for ebay deals where the seller doesn't
ship overseas. He takes delivery for me and once he has a few items in hand,
dispatches them off across the big pond. A big thank you out to Bill for
doing that for me, and to all of you out there in OBCLand who made contributions
over the years towards my 1960 success. Unfortunately, I've now decided
to try to pick up the mid-series grey/white back variations. There'salso
a few cards that I'd like to upgrade just a tad, so the 1960 set won't
be disappearing from my list altogether!

I've been concentrating on the 1960 set for so long now that I'm kind of torn
as to where to focus my efforts next. My 1961-1967 sets are all within sight
numbers-wise, although some will of course be tougher than others due to
thevalue of certain needed cards - combined with the fact that I'm a fairly
cheap bugger!The 1965 set might be my best bet with 44 to go, although
I still need a few of the biggees (Clemente, Aaron, Rose,Mays, Koufax,
Mantle, CarltonRC).

I've also been hitting my hockey and football lists fairly heavily over thepast
6 months. My 1969/70, 1970/71 and 1972/73 Topps Hockey sets have 26, 30,
and 24 cards to go, while my 1971/72 Topps set is down to only 1 (Dryden
RC). I'm only2 cards short of knocking off the 1971 Football set (Sayers
& BradshawRC), and 38 away from 1970. 

Still plenty to work on during the year(s) to come!!

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:08:07 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 

Here is the current status on the Auction.

Lot #
High Bid

1910 Hassan Animal Cards: Cape Hunting Dog, Civet-Cat, Rhino

Spike Glidden

1912 t207 Krause
SGC10 (decent)
Mac Wubben

1933 Goudey lot of 6 (OBC specials!): 14, 26, 30, 33, 34, 36

Spike Glidden
TJ Valacak

1935 Goudey (Coleman et al)
Mac Wubben

1936 Goudey Bucky Harris
TJ Valacak

1956 topps #173 johnny podres (grey back)
Ant Arbeeny
Richard Dingman

1956 Topps lot of three 82, 144,168

Brian Betza
Richard Dingman

1960 fleer football 11 card lot  #93,94,96,114,115,117,120,122,125,126,130
ex with slight trim on top
Ant Arbeeny
TJ Valacak

1969 Topps #95 Johnny Bench nice image,
fair condition (nasty corner)
Andy Cook
Ant Arbeeny

1970 Topps 6 card lot  198 (Mets Celebrate/Ryan) 199 (ALCS-Cuellar) 309(WS-Koosman)346(Schoendienst) 436 (Phillies) 448 (Astros) 696 (Giants)

Brian Betza

1972 BB semi highs 25 different  (#526-655)
avg vg
Mike Rich

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 Topps Willie Mays #49
Ken Pillion

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973-74 lot     1973 Pirates and Red Sox Blue Checklist, 1974 Wash variation # 387, 1974 Red Checklists Giants*, Tigers**, and Phillies**

John Leroux

1973-74 OPC Hockey 100 different
Mike Rich

1973-74 topps basketball #142 earl monroe
Ant Arbeeny

1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete Set
vg condition
Andy Cook
Larry Tipton

1974 football team checklist starter set with 15 each : lions,patriots,saints,radiers,steelers,oilers,eagles,49ers,cowboys,cards,chargers,bills,browns,bears,bengals
Ant Arbeeny

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1976 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
TJ Valacak

1977 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1979 Topps lot of 50 with stars - carew ldr, rice ldr, ryan ldr, morgan, winfield, eck, garvey, stargell, yount, seaver, sutton, bench, mccovey, morris, carew, yaz, perry, cobb ldr, aaron ldrx2, cobb ldr, brock, young ldr, ryan ldr, parker, concepcion, perez, guidry, carter, niekro, yanks, murray, hunter, fisk, jackson

Lynn Miller

1981 Donruss Variation Lot 56a Steve Garvey, 87a Larry Hisle 131a Pete Rose 306a Gary “Mathews” 319a “Dwane” Kuiper 444a Buck Martinez 444b Buck Martinez,483a Ivan DeJesus, 490a Dave Roberts, 524a Ray Burris, 532a Geoff Zahn, 554a Mike Vail, 555a Jerry Martin 556a Jesus Figueroa, 563a Bob Owchinko,  566a “Glen” Adams, 595a Dave Edwards, Checklist 241-360 w/ “Mathews”Checklist 361-480 w/ “Pujois”, Checklist 481-600 w/ “Glen”
Geno Wagner

1981 Topps football 25 cards (Shell, Upshaw, and Deirdorf)

John Leroux

1984 RGI  Willie Mays Story #22 Autographed in blue

John Leroux

1985 (?) Pete Rose Baseball Card Set #49  Autographed in blue

John Leroux

1988 Detroit Pistons Eastern Conference Champion pin

Andy Cook

20 card oddball lot of mostly 1978 TCMA's all Cleveland Indians

John Leroux

2002  Talking Chuck Thompson bobble head--speaks three phrases including "ain't the beer cold!"  Thompson is in the HOF as an announcer and was the voice of both the Colts and the Orioles.
Peter Mead

Scottish Lot: Auto'd 8x10 of Bobby Thomson's "The Shot..." + Official ball marker from 2005 Open Championship (British) at The Old Course, St Andrews

Glen Codere
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:34:51 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "youknowwhatproductions" 
Subject: White Plains Card Show

Does anyone plan on going to the White Plains card show later today? My
son and I were originally going Saturday but the family was invited to
a Bar Mitzvah.
Jeff Newman

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:33:33 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 

My short break from work to update you on the auction.  Please note that I am doing my best to simulate ebay manually, so all bids will be incremented by $1.  For example, if someone gives me their maximum bid of $5 and the next high bid on the same item is $8, the new high bid will be $6.

4:30 PM

Lot #
High Bid

1910 Hassan Animal Cards: Cape Hunting Dog, Civet-Cat, Rhino

Spike Glidden

1912 t207 Krause
SGC10 (decent)
Mac Wubben
Peter Mead

1933 Goudey lot of 6 (OBC specials!): 14, 26, 30, 33, 34, 36

Spike Glidden
TJ Valacak

1935 Goudey (Coleman et al)
Mac Wubben
Peter Mead

1936 Goudey Bucky Harris
TJ Valacak

1956 topps #173 johnny podres (grey back)
Ant Arbeeny
Richard Dingman

1956 Topps lot of three 82, 144,168

Brian Betza
Richard Dingman

1960 fleer football 11 card lot  #93,94,96,114,115,117,120,122,125,126,130
ex with slight trim on top
Ant Arbeeny
TJ Valacak

1969 Topps #95 Johnny Bench nice image,
fair condition (nasty corner)
Andy Cook
Ant Arbeeny

1970 Topps 6 card lot  198 (Mets Celebrate/Ryan) 199 (ALCS-Cuellar) 309(WS-Koosman)346(Schoendienst) 436 (Phillies) 448 (Astros) 696 (Giants)

Brian Betza
Richard Dingman

1972 BB semi highs 25 different  (#526-655)
avg vg
Mike Rich
Richard Dingman

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1972 Topps Willie Mays #49
Ken Pillion

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1973-74 lot     1973 Pirates and Red Sox Blue Checklist, 1974 Wash variation # 387, 1974 Red Checklists Giants*, Tigers**, and Phillies**

John Leroux

1973-74 OPC Hockey 100 different
Mike Rich

1973-74 topps basketball #142 earl monroe
Ant Arbeeny

1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete Set
vg condition
Andy Cook
Larry Tipton

1974 football team checklist starter set with 15 each : lions,patriots,saints,radiers,steelers,oilers,eagles,49ers,cowboys,cards,chargers,bills,browns,bears,bengals
Ant Arbeeny

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller

1976 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
TJ Valacak

1977 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different

Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1979 Topps lot of 50 with stars - carew ldr, rice ldr, ryan ldr, morgan, winfield, eck, garvey, stargell, yount, seaver, sutton, bench, mccovey, morris, carew, yaz, perry, cobb ldr, aaron ldrx2, cobb ldr, brock, young ldr, ryan ldr, parker, concepcion, perez, guidry, carter, niekro, yanks, murray, hunter, fisk, jackson

Lynn Miller

1981 Donruss Variation Lot 56a Steve Garvey, 87a Larry Hisle 131a Pete Rose 306a Gary “Mathews” 319a “Dwane” Kuiper 444a Buck Martinez 444b Buck Martinez,483a Ivan DeJesus, 490a Dave Roberts, 524a Ray Burris, 532a Geoff Zahn, 554a Mike Vail, 555a Jerry Martin 556a Jesus Figueroa, 563a Bob Owchinko,  566a “Glen” Adams, 595a Dave Edwards, Checklist 241-360 w/ “Mathews”Checklist 361-480 w/ “Pujois”, Checklist 481-600 w/ “Glen”
Geno Wagner

1981 Topps football 25 cards (Shell, Upshaw, and Deirdorf)

John Leroux

1984 RGI  Willie Mays Story #22 Autographed in blue

John Leroux

1985 (?) Pete Rose Baseball Card Set #49  Autographed in blue

John Leroux

1988 Detroit Pistons Eastern Conference Champion pin

Andy Cook

20 card oddball lot of mostly 1978 TCMA's all Cleveland Indians

John Leroux

2002  Talking Chuck Thompson bobble head--speaks three phrases including "ain't the beer cold!"  Thompson is in the HOF as an announcer and was the voice of both the Colts and the Orioles.
Peter Mead

Scottish Lot: Auto'd 8x10 of Bobby Thomson's "The Shot..." + Official ball marker from 2005 Open Championship (British) at The Old Course, St Andrews

Glen Codere
Brock Hattox
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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:05:21 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update 1/16 5:00 pm

The current auction can be viewed at the following link: www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html
I will try to update several times a day.  Enjoy
the weekendJoe
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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:36:07 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction Update

There are a few extra items up for auction that have been added with the new
update, as of 1/16 9:30PM EST.  The bids are coming at a steady state fornow.
I will try my best to keep up.  If anyone wishes to contribute to the
auction,  I will accept new items through Saturday 9 pm EST.  Please provide
an opening bid, otherwise the items will not be listed.  Thanks.  Joe
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:29:41 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean Mcgowan 
Subject: You're invited to view my photos!

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:59:11 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: ATTENTION JOE ISAAC

Joe, I've tried for two days now to email you.  Something is wrong...
first, I would like to add an auction lot, please:

1953-1980: ALL my vintage dupes from the TEAM of your choice - pulled
from approximately 3,000 available cards.  Starting bid $1.

Basically, the winning bidder gets to choose whatever team they want,
and I pull all the dupes I have of THAT TEAM from my dupes box.  If
you can think of a simpler way of saying that, please do so!  I just
thought it would be fun to have a lot like this, that would mean a
somewhat different thing to each person... and to see how that goes.

I would also still like to place bids on the following lots:
$1 bid on lots 20, 58.
$2 on lots 7, 35, 36, 41, 59.
$3 on lots 40, 44, 56.
$4 on lot 9.
$5 on lots 43, 51, 53.
$8 on lot 11.

Thank you very much
Aaron Shirley

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:57:56 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction Update

Good Morning OBC: As some of you may have noticed, there were frequent changes
in the auction yesterday.  I cannot guarantee the very frequent changeswhen
bids are made in the upcoming days, but changes will be updated at least
twice daily as promised.  When bids are sent to me, the changes are notdynamic,
that is instant like the way Ebay is set up.  I am not that computer
programming savvy to set up an auction, yet my programming skills are improving
enough to make me dangerous, other than hit the delete key.  Maybeby
the next auction, I may develop an auction template so bids can be entered
directly. So please be patient and check the last update line for day and
time.  Bids will be honored in the order they are received and by maximum
bid, so if you make an opening bid, provide me with your maximum, so if two
people are bidding on the same item with no current bids, the person whoprovides
the higher maximum will be the current high bidder, same as Ebay.Remember,
bids are incremented by $1.

If there are any other questions, drop me a line.  Thanks, Joe
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To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:12:58 -0500
From: Jeff Delott 
Subject: Red Back

I'm down to two on my 1951 Red Back set.? Anyone have an off grade Sievers for a similar Zarilla?

?Jeffrey Delott

=================

Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:36:18 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: please help fix my wantlist!

I'm not sure who to contact about this, but the vintage page of my
online wantlist is messed up.  I contacted webmaster@oldbaseball.com on
Wednesday, but I don't know who that is or whether they are available to
help right now.

The address is http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/ashirley.htm


For the time being, I have placed a simplified vintage wantlist, as well
as a much shorter UV wantlist (just the UV Topps base sets), on my UV
page, which is still working:
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/ashirleyuv.htm


In fact, the UV and BRAVES pages are both working fine, but the VINTAGE
page cuts off at 1954.  The bottom part where I enter my password to
edit it is not there!  Please let me know what I need to do!  Who should
I contact?
Thank you very much
Aaron Shirley

=================

To: Joe Isaac , OBC Ramblings
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:18:20 -0500
From: Bob Reed 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Update

I'm catching up on my emails and missed donating an item.  Is it too late to
add one?

If not I'd like to contribute a #131 1964 Topps All Star Coin of Mickey Mantle.
 VGish with a minimum bid of $1.00.

Thanks for your effort.

To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: jwi62@hotmail.comDate: Sat, 17 Jan 2009
08:57:56 -0500Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Update

Good Morning OBC: As some of you may have noticed, there were frequent changes
in the auction yesterday.  I cannot guarantee the very frequent changeswhen
bids are made in the upcoming days, but changes will be updated at least
twice daily as promised.  When bids are sent to me, the changes are notdynamic,
that is instant like the way Ebay is set up.  I am not that computer
programming savvy to set up an auction, yet my programming skills are improving
enough to make me dangerous, other than hit the delete key.  Maybeby
the next auction, I may develop an auction template so bids can be entered
directly. So please be patient and check the last update line for day and
time.  Bids will be honored in the order they are received and by maximum
bid, so if you make an opening bid, provide me with your maximum, so if two
people are bidding on the same item with no current bids, the person whoprovides
the higher maximum will be the current high bidder, same as Ebay.Remember,
bids are incremented by $1. If there are any other questions, drop
me a line.  Thanks, Joe

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To: 
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:41:02 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: Who Wanted the 68 Mantle Game Card?

Hello all,
Someone has on their want list as a high priority, the 1968 Topps gamecard
of Mickey Mantle.  I got one in an auction from Ebay, and would like to
be a set killer.....but I don't remember who it is.  Let me know and I will
send it to you!

Father Pat

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To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:04:22 -0500
From: Larry Tipton 
Subject: re: OBC Auction

I placed a $50 bid on lot #23 1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete

So could someone bid like $40 or $45 to get it rolling?

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:14:29 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction Update 2:10 pm EST Sat

OBCers: The list has been updated.  Please note additional items have been added
to the pile.  I am still accepting new items, please provide a starting
bid.  One other correction:  Item #51 has a starting bid of $25. www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:37:12 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "rlabs1" 
Subject: Fly Eagles, Fly

Leavin' on a jet plane(actuall driving) - know when I'll be back
again - Monday.  Going to Phoenix to root on my Eagles. My niece
bought us tickets for the game - nose bleed section - but hey I have
never been to a conference championship.

Take care,
Richard Labs

=================

Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:53:58 EST
To: boreed@hotmail.com, jwi62@hotmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Update

Do you know if this is the Batting Right or Batting Left version?
Look carefully as one is following through on the swing.
Mike Rich
In a message dated 1/17/09 12:18:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
boreed@hotmail.com writes:

> If not I'd like to contribute a #131 1964 Topps All Star Coin of Mickey
> Mantle.  VGish

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:17:17 EST
To: tvalacak@comcast.net, mfmroz@prodigy.net
From: mikesportsfan@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

You might be able to find here a nice anniversary gift.  I know silver
anniversary is silver, and the 50th is gold.  Maybe a 52 Topps hi #.  I
forget which anniversary that is for, but it never hurts.
MIke Rich

> Nothing says "I love you" more than bringing your wife to the card show.
> Come on, show off your romantic side.
> T.J. Valacak
> From: "Mike Mroz" 
> Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday
> I plan to be there on Sunday. It's mine and Andrea's anniversary that
> day

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To: Mike Rich , TJ Valacak ,
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:41:13 -0500
From: Aaron Shirley 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: FOOT area Redford show on Sunday

I think the 52 highs are for the 9th anniversary.
At least I hope so...

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To: Mike Rich , OBC Ramblings
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:13:24 -0500
From: Bob Reed 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Update

It's the batting left version.

From: Mikesportsfan@aol.comDate: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:53:58 -0500Subject: Re:
[OBC-Ramblings] Auction UpdateTo: boreed@hotmail.com; jwi62@hotmail.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.comBob,
Do you know if this is the Batting Right
or Batting Left version?  Look carefully as one is following through on
the swing.Mike RichIn a message dated 1/17/09 12:18:41 PM Eastern Standard
Time, boreed@hotmail.com writes:
If not I'd like to contribute a #131 1964 Topps All Star Coin of Mickey Mantle.
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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:06:25 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction Update - 8:00 pm Sat

I updated the auction link on my site with the recent bidding.  There is also
a new lot up for grabs, thanks to Brian Betza.

FYI, the auction will continue to run until Sunday 1/25 9:00PM EST

BTW, for those of you counting, the total in bids is $225.  Nice job everyone,
the treasury thanks you!Joe
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To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:57:55 -0500
From: Jeff Delott 
Subject: Any 1953 Color Bowman Traders?

I almost didn=E2=99t collect the 1953 color Bowmans because I thought it
was an impossible set to complete. I=E2=99ve made enough progress
that I=E2=99m almost within striking distance. I have the following
to trade, which range from fair to very good:

2 (Wertz), 8 (Rosen), 31 (Dykes), 49 (Stanky), 56 (Cain), 57 (Boudreau), 73(Pierce),
74 (Mueller), 75 (Rogovin), 76 (Hearn), 86 (Simpson), 87 (Perkowski),
90 (Nuxhall), 94 (Addis), 112 (Atwell), 130 (Michaels), 136 (Brideweser),
144 (Hacker), 149 (Corwin), 152 (Vollmer)

I=E2=99m looking for the following without any writing, tears, paper loss
or holes:

45 (Dropo), 60 (Hamner), 61 (Kell), 80 (Kiner), 116 (Yost), 124 (Dressen), 134
(Pesky), 135 (Morgan), 140 (Brazile), 145 (Shuba), 160 (Abrams)

I can send color scans if interested.

Jeffrey Delott

=================

Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:12:12 GMT
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob Saxton" 
Subject: price guides

Had a good time at a book sale yesterday and among the load I hauled home were
several price guides. These copies are all ex-library books with typical
library markings. They are all in very nice clean condition. FCFS to OBCer's
before I try listing them in my eBay book store.

2007 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 16th edition - 1 copy

2007 Beckett Football Cards Price Guide #26 - 2 copies

2008 Beckett Basketball Cards Price Guide #17 - 3 copies

2007 Beckett Basketball Cards Price Guide #16 1 copy

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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:55:13 EST
To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com,
From: biggies@aol.com
Subject: Ant has ESP, HELP!

I had a nice day at the show in White Plains today, seeing 4 different
trading partners and getting some decent hits to my 70-72 kids sets that are
getting close to done.

BUT, more than that I was able to get my last 2 hits to my 63 Topps set!
Then I ran into CHEF ANT. We had a nice chat about various things and when I
told him that I had just completed my 63 set we somehow got around to discussing
how when he thinks he's finished a set he often discovers that he's missed a
card or two.
Well, you guessed it. I proudly put in the last card, Mr Cubs, and then did
an audit only to discover that I was missing 2.

463, 489 if you have a spare hanging around.

Anyway it was great to see Ant and the other traders.

Be well all,  BB

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To: 
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:44:27 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: What does everyone think of this 54T?

As you can all see on the scan, the card on the left is slightly larger, and
appears that the font is slightly larger too.  The material is strange too,
fiberglass or plasticized cardboard...it's thick too.  Anyone seen one like
this before?

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:56:04 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Saxton 
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] price guides

OBCers --

If you want the Standard Catalog and don't care about UV, have Bob take an exacto
knife to the book and cut out the 2/3 you don't need (add the minor league
vintage back in from the back). It will cut the cost of shipping and
once you tape it back together, it's much easier to carry around!

Take Care,

--- On Sun, 1/18/09, Bob Saxton  wrote:

From: Bob Saxton 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] price guides
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 4:12 PM

Had a good time at a book sale yesterday and among the load I hauled home were
several price guides. These copies are all ex-library books with typical
library markings. They are all in very nice clean condition. FCFS to OBCer's
before I try listing them in my eBay book store.

2007 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 16th edition - 1 copy

2007 Beckett Football Cards Price Guide #26 - 2 copies

2008 Beckett Basketball Cards Price Guide #17 - 3 copies

2007 Beckett Basketball Cards Price Guide #16 1 copy

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:56:57 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: Pages...Pages...Pages...... HELP!!!!

Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being  able to look at my
sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am  going to
transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at  the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im looking for the long pockets for my 55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the  58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages  I will Gladly pay for Shipping  if you  don't mind
helping out Let me KNow
**************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's
capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000027)

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:58:05 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

(SORRY I FORGOT TO SIGN THE FIRST COPY)
Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being  able to look at my
sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am  going to
transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at  the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im looking for the long pockets for my 55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the  58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages  I will Gladly pay for Shipping  if you  don't mind
helping out Let me KNow

Rob "The FIREMAN"
**************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's
capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000027)

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:02:16 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com,
From: Geno Wagner 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Pages...Pages...Pages...... HELP!!!!

Although they might be expensive, I'd consider the investment in some nice pages
that won't hurt your cards in the long run. A mix-and-match OBC smattering
of pages is ok for a small set, but if you're going to house majorsets,
I'd spring my tax return on a couple of boxes of Ultra-Pro...

Just my two cents...

Take Care,

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, DaPatriot1@aol.com  wrote:

From: DaPatriot1@aol.com 
Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] Pages...Pages...Pages...... HELP!!!!
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 7:56 AM

Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being able to look
at my sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am goingto
transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite expensive.
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im lookingfor the long pockets for my55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the 58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages I will Gladly pay for Shipping if you don'tmind
helping out Let me KNow

Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:39:33 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

Hey Rob,

I agree with Geno on this one. There's no doubt that pages are expensive, but
the investment definitely is a good one. Given the sheer number of pagesthat
you need, I doubt that OBCers would be able to provide you with anywhere
close to that amount, although I'm sure that many will help you out with
whatever they may have.

I would guess that this is a project that you are going to work on over time,
rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop? Assuming an average of
65 pages per set, a couple of 100ct boxes of page would see you through your
first 3. Over the course of a few months, you'd soon have them all neatly
stashed. It'd save wear and tear on your fingertips, too! PRO TIP: Afterbuying
the first few yourself, make it known to family and friends that binders
and pages should be considered an "ever present" item on your list ofbirthday/Xmas/random
gift-giving holiday desires. Its better than socks!!

Although there are cheaper alternatives on the market, I wouldn't go for anything
other than UltraPro. They are without a doubt the very best quality.Oh,
and when you're putting your cards in the binders, be very very careful
about counting out the slots correctly. There's nothing worse than getting
a nice card from a fellow OBCer then discovering that you've neglected toleave
a space for it, especially if its early in the set!! Its no fun having
to take 600 cards out of their slots just to move them all one space to the
right. Remember to take spaces for variations into account too, especially
on that damn '62 set!!

From: "DaPatriot1@aol.com" 
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:58:05 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.
(SORRY I FORGOT TO SIGN THE FIRST COPY)
Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being able to look
at my sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am goingto
transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite expensive.
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im lookingfor the long pockets for my55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the 58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages I will Gladly pay for Shipping if you don'tmind
helping out Let me KNow

Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:46:36 EST
To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

on the leaving the correct # of spots, someone (mac or spike?) gave a great
tip about how to know where any card goes in a 9 slot page.

add up all the numbers in the card number.  eg 123 would be 6.   starting
from the top left and moving right, then down to row two left to  right, card 123
goes in the second row, far right column.

if you have a card like 579, 5+7+9 = 21, 2+1 = 3, card goes in position # 3
(top row, far right column)

doesn't work on the 8 card page sets (52, 53 topps, 53-55 bowman)

In a message dated 1/19/2009 8:40:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
glenncodere@yahoo.com writes:

Hey Rob,

I agree with Geno on this one. There's no doubt that pages are expensive,
but the investment definitely is a good one. Given the sheer number of pages
that you need, I doubt that OBCers would be able to provide you with anywhere
close to that amount, although I'm sure that many will help you out with
whatever they may have.

I would guess that this is a project that you are going to work on over
time, rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop? Assuming an average  of
65 pages per set, a couple of 100ct boxes of page would see you through  your
first 3. Over the course of a few months, you'd soon have them all neatly
stashed. It'd save wear and tear on your fingertips, too! PRO TIP: After  buying
the first few yourself, make it known to family and friends that  binders and
pages should be considered an "ever present" item on your list of
birthday/Xmas/I would guess that this is a project that you are going to work

Although there are cheaper alternatives on the market, I wouldn't go for
anything other than UltraPro. They are without a doubt the very best quality.
Oh, and when you're putting your cards in the binders, be very very careful
about counting out the slots correctly. There's nothing worse than getting a
nice card from a fellow OBCer then discovering that you've neglected to leave  a
space for it, especially if its early in the set!! Its no fun having to take
600 cards out of their slots just to move them all one space to the right.
Remember to take spaces for variations into account too, especially on that
damn '62 set!!

From: "DaPatriot1@ "DaPatriot1@
To:  obc-ramblings@  obc-ram  obc-ramblings@
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

This works nice. I always count mine by the end of the page. The last card in
is 9, so any card # that adds up to 9 (387 3+8+718...8+19) should
be in the lower right corner. This way you never have cards in the wronghole.
Like Glenn said, Nothing worse than having to move all your cards one

I do my variations at the end of the set. That way you have the main set all
in a row and with no holes in the set when you are done.

All of my 1st set cards are in binders with sheets already. I still go through
about 100 sheetsevery other month. So Rob you will need a ton of sheets
to do your existing cards and for future cards. I pay $12 per 100 for
Ultra-Pro sheets (9 Pockets) a buck more for anything else (1, 2, 4, 6, 8,
15 pockets)

John Stamper

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, smartalecx@aol.com  wrote:

From: smartalecx@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help
To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:46 AM

on the leaving the correct # of spots, someone (mac or spike?) gave a greattip
about how to know where any card goes in a 9 slot page.

add up all the numbers in the card number. eg 123 would be 6. starting
from the top left and moving right, then down to row twoleft to right,card
123 goes in the second row, far right column.

if you have a card like 579, 5+7+9  21, 2+1  3, card goes in position#
3 (top row, far right column)

doesn't work on the 8 card page sets (52, 53 topps, 53-55 bowman)

In a message dated 1/19/2009 8:40:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, glenncodere@
yahoo.com writes:

Hey Rob,

I agree with Geno on this one. There's no doubt that pages are expensive, but
the investment definitely is a good one. Given the sheer number of pagesthat
you need, I doubt that OBCers would be able to provide you with anywhere
close to that amount, although I'm sure that many will help you out with
whatever they may have.

I would guess that this is a project that you are going to work on over time,
rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop? Assuming an average of
65 pages per set, a couple of 100ct boxes of page would see you through your
first 3. Over the course of a few months, you'd soon have them all neatly
stashed. It'd save wear and tear on your fingertips, too! PRO TIP: Afterbuying
the first few yourself, make it known to family and friends that binders
and pages should be considered an "ever present" item on your list ofbirthday/Xmas/
random gift-giving holiday desires. Its better than socks!!

Although there are cheaper alternatives on the market, I wouldn't go for anything
other than UltraPro. They are without a doubt the very best quality.Oh,
and when you're putting your cards in the binders, be very very careful
about counting out the slots correctly. There's nothing worse than getting
a nice card from a fellow OBCer then discovering that you've neglected toleave
a space for it, especially if its early in the set!! Its no fun having
to take 600 cards out of their slots just to move them all one space to the
right. Remember to take spaces for variations into account too, especially
on that damn '62 set!!

From: "DaPatriot1@ aol.com" 
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com; obc-wantlist@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:58:05 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

(SORRY I FORGOT TO SIGN THE FIRST COPY)
Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being able to look
at my sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am goingto
transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite expensive.
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im lookingfor the long pockets for my55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the 58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages I will Gladly pay for Shipping if you don'tmind
helping out Let me KNow

Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia

Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:19:04 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

That is a good tip. However, it falls apart if you want to include variations
side by side.....or if you're trying to put your cards away after a few adult

From: "Smartalecx@aol.com" 
To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:46:36 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

on the leaving the correct # of spots, someone (mac or spike?) gave a greattip
about how to know where any card goes in a 9 slot page.

add up all the numbers in the card number. eg 123 would be 6. starting
from the top left and moving right, then down to row twoleft to right,card
123 goes in the second row, far right column.

if you have a card like 579, 5+7+9  21, 2+1  3, card goes in position#
3 (top row, far right column)

doesn't work on the 8 card page sets (52, 53 topps, 53-55 bowman)

In a message dated 1/19/2009 8:40:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, glenncodere@yahoo.com
Hey Rob,

I agree with Geno on this one. There's no doubt that pages are expensive, but
the investment definitely is a good one. Given the sheer number of pagesthat
you need, I doubt that OBCers would be able to provide you with anywhere
close to that amount, although I'm sure that many will help you out with
whatever they may have.

I would guess that this is a project that you are going to work on over time,
rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop? Assuming an average of
65 pages per set, a couple of 100ct boxes of page would see you through your
first 3. Over the course of a few months, you'd soon have them all neatly
stashed. It'd save wear and tear on your fingertips, too! PRO TIP: Afterbuying
the first few yourself, make it known to family and friends that binders
and pages should be considered an "ever present" item on your list ofbirthday/Xmas/
random gift-giving holiday desires. Its better than socks!!

Although there are cheaper alternatives on the market, I wouldn't go for anything
other than UltraPro. They are without a doubt the very best quality.Oh,
and when you're putting your cards in the binders, be very very careful
about counting out the slots correctly. There's nothing worse than getting
a nice card from a fellow OBCer then discovering that you've neglected toleave
a space for it, especially if its early in the set!! Its no fun having
to take 600 cards out of their slots just to move them all one space to the
right. Remember to take spaces for variations into account too, especially
on that damn '62 set!!

From: "DaPatriot1@ aol.com" 
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com; obc-wantlist@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:58:05 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.
(SORRY I FORGOT TO SIGN THE FIRST COPY)
Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being able to look
at my sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am goingto
transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite expensive.
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im lookingfor the long pockets for my55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the 58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages I will Gladly pay for Shipping if you don'tmind
helping out Let me KNow

Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:43:50 GMT
To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com
From: "Bob Saxton" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] price guides
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Bob Saxton 
From: Geno Wagner 
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:56:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] price guides

OBCers --

If you want the Standard Catalog and don't care about UV, have Bob take an exacto
knife to the book and cut out the 2/3 you don't need (add the minor league
vintage back in from the back). It will cut the cost of shipping and
once you tape it back together, it's much easier to carry around!

Take Care,

--- On Sun, 1/18/09, Bob Saxton  wrote:

From: Bob Saxton 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] price guides
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 4:12 PM

Had a good time at a book sale yesterday and among the load I hauled home were
several price guides. These copies are all ex-library books with typical
library markings. They are all in very nice clean condition. FCFS to OBCer's
before I try listing them in my eBay book store.

2007 Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards 16th edition - 1 copy

2007 Beckett Football Cards Price Guide #26 - 2 copies

2008 Beckett Basketball Cards Price Guide #17 - 3 copies

2007 Beckett Basketball Cards Price Guide #16 1 copy

Have a great week, everyone!

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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:09:21 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: Re:  PAGES PAGES

Hey guys, great information on pages as I am thinking of doing this in
the near future. my question is what type of binders are you guys using?
I don't like the generic binders at my local card shop with baseball or
cards on them.
Is their a certain type any of you recommend? or are you just doing the
type you get at walmart?

also, do you double up on the pages so you get 18 to a page back to
back, or do you just do one side?

thanks for any information

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:14:20 +0000 (UTC)
To: john@holidayandhobbies.com
From: tvalacak@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

You will absolutely love having your sets in the sheets.Originally,
mine were all in boxes. When I finally put them in sheets, many of
my later vintage sets were already finished. Now, I look to get
my sets in sheets right away. I just put my 1970 OPC set insheets
this weekend. Sure, there are a lot of holes, but that is thegreat
advantage of the sheets. (Great tip by Gary Mandell. I'mgoing
to use that one when I put the 72 OPC in sheets). Everytime you
file some cards away, you'll find yourself checking out your sets. And,
like everyone else, I would encourage you to put your sets in the Ultra
Pro sheets.

Have fun and enjoy!

T.J. Valacak
OBC member since August 2005
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Stamper" 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:17:20 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

This works nice. I always count mine by the end of the page. The last card in
is 9, so any card # that adds up to 9 (387 3+8+718...8+19) should
be in the lower right corner. This way you never have cards in the wronghole.
Like Glenn said, Nothing worse than having to move all your cards one

I do my variations at the end of the set. That way you have the main set all
in a row and with no holes in the set when you are done.

All of my 1st set cards are in binders with sheets already. I still go through
about 100 sheetsevery other month. So Rob you will need a ton
of sheets to do your existing cards and for future cards. I pay $12 per 100
for Ultra-Pro sheets (9 Pockets) a buck more for anything else (1, 2, 4,
6, 8, 15 pockets)

John Stamper

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, smartalecx@aol.com  wrote:

From: smartalecx@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help
To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 6:46 AM

on the leaving the correct # of spots, someone (mac or spike?) gave a greattip
about how to know where any card goes in a 9 slot page.

add up all the numbers in the card number. eg 123 would be 6. starting
from the top left and moving right, then down to row twoleft to
right, card 123 goes in the second row, far right column.

if you have a card like 579, 5+7+9  21, 2+1  3, card goes in position#
3 (top row, far right column)

doesn't work on the 8 card page sets (52, 53 topps, 53-55 bowman)

In a message dated 1/19/2009 8:40:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, glenncodere@
yahoo.com writes:

Hey Rob,

I agree with Geno on this one. There's no doubt that pages are expensive, but
the investment definitely is a good one. Given the sheer number of pagesthat
you need, I doubt that OBCers would be able to provide you with anywhere
close to that amount, although I'm sure that many will help you out with
whatever they may have.

I would guess that this is a project that you are going to work on over time,
rather than trying to do it all in one fell swoop? Assuming an average of
65 pages per set, a couple of 100ct boxes of page would see you through your
first 3. Over the course of a few months, you'd soon have them all neatly
stashed. It'd save wear and tear on your fingertips, too! PRO TIP: Afterbuying
the first few yourself, make it known to family and friends that binders
and pages should be considered an "ever present" item on your list ofbirthday/Xmas/
random gift-giving holiday desires. Its better than socks!!

Although there are cheaper alternatives on the market, I wouldn't go for anything
other than UltraPro. They are without a doubt the very best quality.Oh,
and when you're putting your cards in the binders, be very very careful
about counting out the slots correctly. There's nothing worse than getting
a nice card from a fellow OBCer then discovering that you've neglected toleave
a space for it, especially if its early in the set!! Its no fun having
to take 600 cards out of their slots just to move them all one space to the
right. Remember to take spaces for variations into account too, especially
on that damn '62 set!!

From: "DaPatriot1@ aol.com" 
To: obc-ramblings@ yahoogroups. com; obc-wantlist@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 1:58:05 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] PAGES PAGES PAGES....... Help

(SORRY I FORGOT TO SIGN THE FIRST COPY)
Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not beingable
to look at my sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so
I am going to transfer my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite expensive.
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im lookingfor the long pockets for my55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the 58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages I will Gladly pay for Shipping if youdon't
mind helping out Let me KNow

Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Gioia

Inauguration '09 : Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!
=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:19:29 +0000 (UTC)
To: jd3681 
From: tvalacak@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:  PAGES PAGES

I think it's all a personal preference. I was able to get many of my binders
free from work. At the end of the school year, there are a number
of items that are thown away. Among the items were used 2 1/2 and
3 inch binders. Other than some writing on the binding, they are great.
As far as the number of cards to put in the pages, I go with 9 per
page. I enjoy reading the stats and checking out the backs of the cards.
It's just a personal preference.

T.J. Valacak
OBC member since August 2005
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "jd3681" 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:09:21 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: PAGES PAGES

Hey guys, great information on pages as I am thinking of doing this in
the near future. my question is what type of binders are you guys using?
I don't like the generic binders at my local card shop with baseball or
cards on them.
Is their a certain type any of you recommend? or are you just doing the
type you get at walmart?

also, do you double up on the pages so you get 18 to a page back to
back, or do you just do one side?

thanks for any information

=================

To: 
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:29:15 -0500
From: "Mark Holland" 
Subject: 69 Deckle Edge

Is anybody working on the 69 deckle edge set.

Have these extras in varying conditions.  Most fronts are fine but some have
paper loss on back.

Send address if you need any of these:  2,3,4,7,9, 12, 14, 15, 16, 20, 22, 24,
25, 26, 29, 30

Mark Holland
Vintage Wantlist: http://www.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep16&groupid169083&ck/

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:10:21 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: PAGES PAGES PAGES

Someone recently said (not sure if it was in ramblings) that they
don't put their sets in binders numerically, but rather by teams with
special cards in the front, middle, and back.  That way you don't have
to say d'oh and move every card over one slot - you can just add a
sheet here or there if you need to, as a particular team grows.  If I
recall correctly, they put the teams in order by leagues, then in the
order they finished in their league for that year.

I actually ONLY have my Braves in binders, and then mostly only from
the Topps base sets.  The rest are in set boxes.  So one binder is all
of the Boston and Milwaukee Braves, the second binder is 1966-1974 or
so, etc all the way up to 2008.  I use 1-inch binders or 1-and-a-half
inch at most.  I just prefer smaller binders...

I take that back.  I do have a couple other binders: all the 1956-1981
TEAM CARDS are in one binder, and all the 2001-2007 team cards are in
a second binder.  Wonder why they didn't put them in the 2008 set.

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:26:59 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Attention 68-73 Hockey collectors!!!

Who out there is working on hockey sets? I have a bunch of dupes from 68/69 to 72/73 that need a home, but I don't want to trawl through every wantlist on OBC to see who collects them. If you're working on any of those sets (both Topps and OPC), let me know and I'll have a look at your list.

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:59:48 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Linda" 
Subject: I am one happy person with my recent  low grade 57 topps availables

I have to say OBC is a great place to find homes for low grade vintage
cardboard. I had a bunch of low grade 57 topps that I put up as
availables and I was worried there would be no claimers. I am happy to
report I got requests from 4 OBCers for the cards I put up as
availables. Am working on making up envelopes with cards to send out
now. Also have to check the requesters want lists to try to send out a
few other cards with the 57's requested-as usual for me.
Have a nice MLK holiday.

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:13:20 +0000 (UTC)
To: Glenn Codere 
From: talbot1@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention 68-73 Hockey collectors!!!

Hey Glenn,

Hockey sets have become more of a focus lately as I
have more and more difficulty finding the vintage baseball cards that I need.
With that being said I have more items on my hockey list than other
sports with the OPC hockey listbeing wide open. Here are those
lists (since you asked):

1968-69 Topps Hockey

1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 16, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26, 27, 28, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34, 40,
42, 43, 44, 46, 49, 51, 52, 56, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 69, 72, 74, 76, 77,
80, 81, 82, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89, 92, 93, 95, 99, 100, 102, 103, 104, 105,
106, 107, 110, 112, 114, 115, 116, 119, 120, 121 - unmarked, 122, 123, 124,
125, 126, 128, 129, 130, 132.

1969-70 Topps Hockey

1 (Worsley), 24 (Orr), 61 (Howe), 70 ( Hull ) and 132 (Checklist).

1970-71 Topps Hockey

15( Hull ), 29(Howe), 78(Parent) and 132-unmarked.

1971-72 Topps Hockey

45 (Dryden), 100 (Orr-upgrade) and 111 (Checklist).

1971-72 TOPPS HOCKEY BOOKLETS

17 (Dryden), 23 (Howe), 24 (upgrade-Orr).

1972-73 Topps Hockey

2-upgrade, 12, 24, 57, 67, 69, 87, 142 and 157.

1968-69 OPC Hockey

1, 2, 3-upgrade, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,
21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38,39,
40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57,
58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76,
77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95,
96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111,
112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126,
127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141,
142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156,
157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171,
172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186,
187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201,
202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216.

1969-70 OPC Hockey

2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26,28,
29, 30, 31, 32, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50,
51, 52, 53, 55, 56, 58, 59, 61, 62, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73,
74, 75, 76, 77, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 96,
97, 98, 99, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 113,115,
121, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 132, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138,139,
140, 141, 142, 143, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 154, 155, 156, 157, 159,162,
163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176,177,
179, 180, 182, 183, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 191, 192, 193, 195, 196,197,
199, 201, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 212, 213, 214, 215,216,
217, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 226, 227, 228, 229, 231.

1970-71 OPC Hockey

2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 11, 12, 20, 22, 23, 24, 29, 31, 33, 35, 36, 40, 43, 48, 51, 52,
53, 55, 57, 58, 59, 63, 67, 69, 72, 75, 77, 78, 79, 84, 85, 89, 91, 101,
102, 103, 104, 105, 108, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 119, 120, 122, 125, 131,
132, 133, 140, 144, 145, 147, 148, 153, 155, 157, 160, 162, 165, 167, 169,
170, 171, 173, 175, 176, 177, 179, 181, 182, 185, 186, 188, 190, 193, 194,
195, 198, 200, 201, 202, 205, 207, 209, 210, 212, 217, 218, 219, 220, 222,
227, 229, 231, 232, 235, 236, 237, 241, 242, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249,
250, 252, 253, 255, 257, 258, 261, 262, 263, 264.

1970-71 OPC Deckle Edge Hockey

1, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28,
29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47,48.

1971-72 OPC Hockey

2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16-upgrade, 18, 20, 21, 25, 27, 29, 30, 32,
35, 36, 39, 44, 45, 50, 53, 54, 56, 57, 59, 60, 64, 69, 70, 71, 74, 76,78,
80, 82, 83, 84, 85, 88, 91, 93, 94, 97, 98, 99, 100, 102, 103, 104, 106,
111-unmarked, 114, 115, 118, 119, 120, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131,
132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 141, 142, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148,
150, 151, 152, 153, 156, 157, 159, 161, 162, 163, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170,
172, 173, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 191, 192,
193, 194, 195, 197, 198, 199, 200, 202, 203, 205, 210, 216, 219, 226, 230,
231, 232, 233, 236, 237, 239, 241, 245, 246, 251, 255, 256, 258, 259, 260,
263, 264-unmarked.

1972 - 73 OPC Hockey

5, 6, 22, 26, 27, 34, 57, 58, 77, 81, 84, 85-defense, 86, 96, 99, 100, 105,123,
128, 134, 153, 156, 164, 165, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 174, 175, 176,178,
179, 183, 184, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 195, 196, 197, 198,200,
204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 210, 212, 213, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 221,222,
223, 224, 226, 227, 230, 231, 232, 234, 235, 237, 238, 239, 240, 242,243,
244, 245, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 258, 259, 261,262,
263, 264, 265, 266, 268, 269, 270, 271, 272, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277,279,
281, 282, 283, 285, 286, 287, 288, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 296,297,
298, 300, 301, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 314, 315,316,
317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330,331,
332, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339.

1972 - 73 OPC Hockey (Upgrade to VG or better)

2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20, 25, 29, 31, 40, 42, 43, 45, 46, 47,49,
50, 51, 52, 53, 59, 60, 68, 71, 72, 76, 83, 85-center, 90, 92, 95, 97,98,
102, 104, 108, 111, 114, 119, 124, 126, 129, 130, 132, 135, 136, 141, 143,
144, 145, 146, 147, 149, 150, 151, 152, 154, 155, 157, 158, 313 and 334-unmarked,

So if you have any assistance here that would be GREAT!!!
BE WELL!!!!

REGARDS --------------------- MARK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn Codere" 
To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 3:26:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Attention 68-73 Hockey collectors!!!

Who out there is working on hockey sets? I have a bunch of dupes from 68/69to
72/73 that need a home, but I don't want to trawl through every wantlist
on OBC to see who collects them. If you're working on any of those sets (both
Topps and OPC), let me know and I'll have a look at your list.

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:17:28 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com,uvlist@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: OBC super bowl pool!!!!

Let me know if you want in.  If you are a new guy, check out the
past results at:
http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-08.htm

in a nutshell,  participants get squares, everyone mails cards to the
winners.  Email me if you want in and we all have fun.

Go OBC!

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:58:33 -0800 (PST)
To: jd3681 
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:  PAGES PAGES

I keep it 9 to a page so I can read the backs. As for binders, the "D" ringbinders
are the best. It keeps the end pages from curling at the rings. I use
so many binders that I take what I can get. Free is always best.

I agree with TJ, everytime I place a card in a binder I look at the whole set.
It's a great way to see all your cards and it is much more enjoyable!

John Stamper

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, jd3681  wrote:

From: jd3681 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: PAGES PAGES
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:09 AM

Hey guys, great information on pages as I am thinking of doing this in
the near future. my question is what type of binders are you guys using?
I don't like the generic binders at my local card shop with baseball or
cards on them.
Is their a certain type any of you recommend? or are you just doing the
type you get at walmart?

also, do you double up on the pages so you get 18 to a page back to
back, or do you just do one side?

thanks for any information

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:43:15 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update

OBCers: There are 6 days left on the auction, ending Sunday 1/25 at 9:00 pmEST.
 The bid total is up to $309.
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:10:40 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "rlabs1" 
Subject: Big Eagle tears

were what I shed last night in Phoenix. Wow, what a game of emotion.
Before the first half ended I told my wife that if the Eagles were
down 24-20 at the end of the 3rd quarter the game was theirs. Akers
made that prediciction a moot point by missing an extra point. It
was the first National Football Championship game I have been to. It
was loud - between the fans and the music. Many time we could not
hear each other talk or cheer. There were  quite a few Eagle fans in
attendance. It was a great experience!
The Cardinal fans - for the most part- were very gracious. There
were some odd things at least in my opinion - there was no big,
colorful program - there was a small booklet type of program. Since
this was a championship I thought they would introduce both starting
lineups but they only introduced the Cardinals. Another really
starnge occurence was when the refs walked on the field the Cardinal
fans cheered. They really meant it - I can not see that happening in
Being green on Sunday meant instant new, nameless friends never to
be seen again.
We went to the mall by the stadium and watched the Cardinal fans
celebrate. We ate supper and went back to the hotel - everyone was
worn out by the emotions of the game and it was an early night.
Gotta run - take care and have a great week.  Once again it was  a
great experience.

Fly Eagles, Fly
Richard Labs

=================

To: ,
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:43:45 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pages...Pages...Pages...... HELP!!!!

Hi Rob,
As mentioned by others...use UltraPro, nothing else.
I cannot keep up with the pages I need, I'm short about a box to fill the high
numbers on a few sets and to put the 1980 set away...otherwise I'd sendyou
my extras...
I can however, save you a few bucks on binders.
I was able to score a pile of 3 inch binders from the office next to mine when
they went belly-up. They had a "supplies sale" with the proceeds used to
buy a little going away dinner for them all. For a buck apiece, I got as many
as I could carry...maybe 7 of these big suckers.
You could probably get 2 sets in each. Do you want a couple? I could get myassistant
to pack 'em up...LMK.

OBC Forever

{PS----- assistant, wife,.... tomato, tomatoe...whatever you call it...she's
not reading this :) )

----- Original Message -----
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Pages...Pages...Pages...... HELP!!!!

Hello All,
I am making a bold Movement. I am sick of not being able to look at my
sets. Once I put them in a box I never see them again so I am going to transfer
my set from Boxes to Binders.
My question/Request is I need a lot of pages for my sets, and looking at the
White Plains show yesterday, all those pages would have been quite expensive.
Can I ask a favor from the group???????

Can anyone spare Pages? If you can i need tons...
.im looking for the long pockets for my 55 Bowman set, 56 Topps
THEN comes the  58-66 Topps sets
58 Topps
59 Topps
60 Topps
61 topps
62 Topps
63 Topps
64 Topps
65 Topps
66 Topps
I know its a lot of pages  I will Gladly pay for Shipping  if you don't mind
helping out Let me KNow

Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:02:56 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "richard_niessen" 
Subject: Re: PAGES PAGES PAGES

They make pages to put cards in?

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:06:37 -0500
From: richard dingman 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re:  PAGES PAGES

I also like 9 per page, and I've always kept cards in binders so I can enjoy
them and read them easily.
It also is better protection.
Re binders, I prefer the 2" or 2.5" to the 3" which seem overly bulky, and somehow
seem more prone to busting from the weight.
I also like the ones with plastic on the spine and cover so you can insert labels.

To: jd3681@yahoo.comCC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: john@holidayandhobbies.comDate:
Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:58:33 -0800Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings]Re:
PAGES PAGES

I keep it 9 to a page so I can read the backs. As for binders, the "D" ringbinders
are the best. It keeps the end pages from curling at the rings. I use
so many binders that I take what I can get. Free is always best.

I agree with TJ, everytime I place a card in a binder I look at the whole set.
It's a great way to see all your cards and it is much more enjoyable!

John Stamper--- On Mon, 1/19/09, jd3681  wrote:
From: jd3681 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: PAGES PAGESTo: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comDate:
Monday, January 19, 2009, 9:09 AM

Hey guys, great information on pages as I am thinking of doing this in the near
future. my question is what type of binders are you guys using?I don'tlike
the generic binders at my local card shop with baseball or cards on them.Is
their a certain type any of you recommend? or are you just doing thetype
you get at walmart?also, do you double up on the pages so you get 18 to
a page back to back, or do you just do one side?thanks for any informationJD

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:40:30 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikerw7" 
Subject: Re: PAGES PAGES PAGES

Hey, I'd wondered if anyone else arranged their cards in binders by teams (as
Aaron mentioned).  So far, I have most of my sets by team.  It works really
well for the years in which I already know all the players by their team
and it feels more connected with the sport to me. I like the idea of arranging
by final standings, too.
It's harder as I go further back, since I don't know the teams as well, but
it also makes me learn who was on those teams better.  The downside is that
it is a little harder to keep track this way.  I haven't yet decided what
I'll do with the fifties sets.  None are in binders yet.

Anyone else sort by team?

Mike R-W

=================

To: 
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:46:33 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: PAGES PAGES PAGES

Most of mine are in teams.  Usually, the team's star player, or my favoriteplayer
if applicable, goes in the upper right hand corner.  The #2 guy goes
in the middle, 3,4 and 5 on the other corners.  Some years, I arranged them
by position.  The three outfielders go across the top, the pitcher in the
middle, catcher in the bottom center, etc.  I find that this makes it much
more fun to look through the binders.

----- Original Message -----
From: mikerw7
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:40 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: PAGES PAGES PAGES

Hey, I'd wondered if anyone else arranged their cards in binders by teams(as
Aaron mentioned). So far, I have most of my sets by team. It works really
well for the years in which I already know all the players by their team
and it feels more connected with the sport to me. I like the idea of arranging
by final standings, too.
It's harder as I go further back, since I don't know the teams as well, but
it also makes me learn who was on those teams better. The downside is that
it is a little harder to keep track this way. I haven't yet decided whatI'll
do with the fifties sets. None are in binders yet.

Anyone else sort by team?

Mike R-W

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:43:19 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: directorth@aol.com
Subject: Super-Tipton 57 Clemente on eBay

Now THIS is a Tipton!
_http://cgi.ebay.com/1957-TOPPS-ROBERTO-CLEMENTE-VERY-CHEAP_W0QQitemZ170294102
(http://cgi.ebay.com/1957-TOPPS-ROBERTO-CLEMENTE-VERY-CHEAP_W0QQitemZ170294102244QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU

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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:35:22 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update

More bids came in since the last update and the following link is current as
of now:

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html

Reminder, if you do not see your name as high bidder, the previous bid had a
higher max than your bid.

I will be a bit busy today so it is more than likely I will update the link,
if necessary, later tonight.  Thanks for all the bids and keeping me on my
Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail.
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:45:25 -0800 (PST)
To: directorth@aol.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Super-Tipton 57 Clemente on eBay

Looks like Santa Clemente!

--- On Tue, 1/20/09, directorth@aol.com  wrote:

From: directorth@aol.com 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Super-Tipton 57 Clemente on eBay
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 4:43 AM

Now THIS is a Tipton!
http://cgi.ebay. com/1957- TOPPS-ROBERTO- CLEMENTE- VERY-CHEAP_ W0QQitemZ1702941
02244QQcmdZViewI temQQptZUS_ SM_Sports_ Cards?hash item170294102244&_trksidp3286.
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To: 
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:23:29 -0500
From: "Bob Donaldson" 
Subject: Pricing information help

I'm looking for pricing information on a E121 Ruth Holding Ball, I have the
SCD but I'd be interested in any recent prices (perhaps from VCP) realized
for something in lower grade but presentable.  This may be my big purchase
of the year (if not the decade)

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:18:49 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Linda" 
Subject: Anyone else having trouble with yahoo thankyou posting message?

I am having trouble with posting a thankyou message on the yahoo
Thankyou page for the group. When I click on "Post" to go to the page
to write my message I get the message that my message has been sent to
the group and I can't get to the page to write the message. Anyone else
having that problem?

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:03:57 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: 71/72 OPC up for grabs (also a 61 Fleer FB)

Have at them, varlets!

34 (Byers - Kings)
83 (Stackhouse - Seals)
95 (Johnson - Canucks)
97 (Yeuchhhh!!! Ratelle - Rangers, Nice front, 33% paper loss on back)
108 (Backstrom - Kings)
116 (Roberts - Blues)
146 (Larose - Canadiens)
153 (Howell - Kings)
177 (Sheehan - Seals)
204 (Gendron - Flyers)
223 (Morrison - Blues)

Also available is a 1961F #82 Jim Gibbons (Lions). Bought in error. I really need to read my own list once in a while!

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:08:11 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: 1960 Topps Question

Hello all,
I have a Question, Are their any Variations in the  1960 Topps set? and
In some earlier Topps sets some #s were not printed, are  their any #s not
Printed in the 1960 Topps?
any help would be appreciated

Rob "The FIREMAN"
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:29:11 EST
To: DaPatriot1@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: LUURSCJG@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Topps Question

375 to 410 are in grey and white backs,102 Ken Hadley has a Yankee logo and
athletic Logo  I dont know of any missing or non issued cards

In a message dated 1/20/2009 4:06:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,
DaPatriot1@aol.com writes:

Hello all,
I have a Question, Are their any Variations in  the 1960 Topps set? and
In some earlier Topps sets some #s were not printed,  are their any #s not
Printed in the 1960 Topps?
any help would be appreciated

Rob  "The FIREMAN"

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To: Ray Luurs , Rob Gioia , OBC
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:17:43 -0500
From: Aaron Shirley 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1960 Topps Question

Rob and everyone

There is a Yahoo group called card-variations that has several files which comprise
a VERY extensive list of varieties.  It is run by OBCers Keith Summers
and Shawn Adkins.  One of the files is dedicated specifically to varieties
in Topps base sets from 1951-2004.  Click the link above to check the group
out.  Anyway, that lists the cream/grey backs as ranging from 375-440,
and mentions that few collectors differentiate a third card stock - white-
being much more difficult.

Then it has two printing varieties, cards 60 and 80.  Besides those, it says
that there are 3 RARE proof cards (numbered 9, 58, 102) which show different
team logos.  So whichever ones of those you choose to pursue... here are
the details on those five:

PRINTING ERRORS:
60 Gus Triandos
A: missing piece of tan stat box in upper right corner on back (NPD)
B: full tan stat box in upper right corner on back
80 Johnny Antonelli
A: Missing upper right corner of bio box
B: Upper right corner of bio box present

9 Faye Throneberry Senators (normal) or Yankees (proof)
58 Gino Cimoli Pirates (normal) or Cardinals (proof)
102 Kent Hadley Yankees (normal) or A's (proof)

Hope that helps without being excessive.  But variations are so subjective,you
know?  I choose not to pursue all the varieties that are mostly just printing
flaws, except for maybe the obvious and wide-spread ones like the 62
green tints.  Anyway... there you go.

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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 23:19:18 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: Does this seem Fishy???

Check this out I think there is a slight problem let me know what u  think

_http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Wynn-1949-Bowman-RC-110-PSA-EX-MT-6_W0QQitemZ230318
(http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-Wynn-1949-Bowman-RC-110-PSA-EX-MT-6_W0QQitemZ230318046726QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_SM_Sports_Cards?hash=item2
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:53:35 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: fishy!

Umm... heh heh... message to seller, that's not ***quite*** EXMT!  The
tragedy here is on so many levels:  First, they had an EXMT 49 Bowman
card.  Then they paid to have it graded.  Then they did a really
cruddy job of breaking it out, probably damaging the card pretty
badly.  Then they found an OBC-grade card and shoved it in the holder,
probably damaging it further.  Then they paid money to put it on eBay,
asking way too much.

I hope no one buys it.  It would just add another brief chapter to the
tragedy: they paid good money to see it not sell.

=================

Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:56:48 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Another missed opportunity.....

About the middle of 2008, when the exchange rate of the $US against the British
Pound was 1.95/1 but starting to show signs of dropping, it crossed mymind
that it would be a good time not only to pick up the cards that I needed
for my own collection, but also to invest in other cards which I could re-sell
at a profitas the exchange rate fell.

Of course, as I've done so many times in my life, I missed the boat on thatopportunity.
Today, the exchange rate is down to 1.33/1. In July, a $100 card
would have cost me =A351. Reselling that same card today for$100would
have netted me =A375 - a full 50% return.

I'm kicking myself. Story of my life, really.

All in all, you guys should consider yourselves lucky that the fluctuationsof
international exchange rates have no impact on your card buying ability!

=================

To: OBC Ramblings 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:34:04 -0500
From: Bob Reed 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] fishy!

I just sent him a message as well.  "Come on.  There's no way that card is Excellent
to Mint.".

I think we should bombard him with questions.  That is definitely fishy.

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: uthminsta@hotmail.comDate: Wed, 21 Jan
2009 04:53:35 +0000Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] fishy!

Umm... heh heh... message to seller, that's not ***quite*** EXMT! Thetragedy
here is on so many levels: First, they had an EXMT 49 Bowmancard. Then they
paid to have it graded. Then they did a reallycruddy job of breaking it out,
probably damaging the card prettybadly. Then they found an OBC-grade card
and shoved it in the holder,probably damaging it further. Then they paid
money to put it on eBay,asking way too much.I hope no one buys it. It would
just add another brief chapter to thetragedy: they paid good money to see
it not sell.Aaron

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To: 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:34:59 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: T205 progress

Given that most of my prewar lists have slowed to a crawl, I finally decided
to make a push on the t205's, last year.  Last New Year's, the list stoodat
75; a year later it stands at 44 and my biggest find yet, arrived yesterday,
a rather Tiptonesque Cy Young.  With this acquisition it seems possible
that I might actually finish the base set.   I don't know if I have the courage
to go after the "monster", as I gave up on it once after only 25 cards,
but finishing this set might give me the boost I need.  Whadda ya think?
 Any "monster" builders out there?

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:00:29 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:16:53 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Rick Johnson" 
Subject: 1967 Seaver for $70

This card is not nice, but its about as affordable as they come.  It is
a PSA 1 for $70 and includes a bunch of other lower grades Seavers.
Someone might be interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-Tom-Seaver-581-PSA-Card-10-Addl-PSA-Graded-

Rick Johnson

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 01:04:01 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

Looks like this got snapped up pretty quick (not surprisingly)! Was it one of our guys?

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Rick Johnson 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:16:53 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

This card is not nice, but its about as affordable as they come. It is
a PSA 1 for $70 and includes a bunch of other lower grades Seavers.
Someone might be interested.

http://cgi.ebay. com/1967- Tom-Seaver- 581-PSA-Card- 10-Addl-PSA- Graded-
Cards_W0QQitemZ1302 83005626QQihZ003 QQcategoryZ55922 QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrd

Rick Johnson

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:20:48 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: January Availables

Hello all
I am offering up a few cards  So If your  working on the set and need
them Claim away

1957 Topps # 153
1959 Topps # 428
1960 Topps # 102,285
1961 Topps # 343
1962 POST # 13 ,48
1962 Topps # 39, 254,308,315,341
1963 Topps  # 102 X2 (red and yellow), 134
1964 Topps # 31,188,261,274,277
1965 Topps #123
1966 Topps # 37,41,64,69,71,77,80,81,83,85

Claim em if ya need em

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=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:19:59 -0800 (PST)
To: Glenn Codere , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Re: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

Glenn and OBC

Yes I was able to pick it up. Most of the other Seavers I already have so they
will be sent out to the group.

John Stamper

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Glenn Codere  wrote:

From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70
To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 1:04 AM

Looks like this got snapped up pretty quick (not surprisingly) ! Was it oneof
our guys?

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Rick Johnson 
To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:16:53 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

This card is not nice, but its about as affordable as they come. It is
a PSA 1 for $70 and includes a bunch of other lower grades Seavers.
Someone might be interested.

http://cgi.ebay. com/1967- Tom-Seaver- 581-PSA-Card- 10-Addl-PSA- Graded-
Cards_W0QQitemZ1302 83005626QQihZ003 QQcategoryZ55922 QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrd

Rick Johnson

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:28:32 -0800 (PST)
To: john@holidayandhobbies.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

Nice work, John! That's a tough card!!

From: John Stamper 
To: Glenn Codere ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 3:19:59 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

Glenn and OBC

Yes I was able to pick it up. Most of the other Seavers I already have so they will be sent out to the group.

John Stamper

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, Glenn Codere  wrote:

From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70
To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 1:04 AM

Looks like this got snapped up pretty quick (not surprisingly) ! Was it one of our guys?

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Rick Johnson 
To: OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:16:53 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1967 Seaver for $70

This card is not nice, but its about as affordable as they come. It is
a PSA 1 for $70 and includes a bunch of other lower grades Seavers.
Someone might be interested.

http://cgi.ebay. com/1967- Tom-Seaver- 581-PSA-Card- 10-Addl-PSA- Graded-
Cards_W0QQitemZ1302 83005626QQihZ003 QQcategoryZ55922 QQssPageNameZWDV WQQrd

Rick Johnson

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:16:14 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: I don't even know what to call these

Hey gang,
I took some time over the last few days to check the backs of my 65-69
binders.  I discovered a few OPC cards that had been placed into my
binders from 65 and 67.  Those backs are not very different at all.
For some of the cards, I was able to dig in my dupes and make the
replacement, but for others, I was not as lucky.  So, I had to add a
few cards to the wantlist.  If anyone has card#'s 6 and 147 from the
1965 topps in their dupes box, I would gladly give them good homes.

I guess the positive in this is that I have 65 and 67 OPC sets

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 22:20:36 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: 1968 Topps Milton Bradley

As I was looking through my 1968 set, I noticed a number of cards with
bright yellow backs.  If I'm not mistaken (And I think George would be
the man to help me) these are from the  Milton Bradley game.  I'm just
wondering what most of the group does with their 68 sets.  Do you have
some of these in your set?  Are they considered Topps variations?

Yikes.  First the OPC gremlins, now this

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:22:28 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: 1970K Gibson on offer

Could anyone do with a real nice 1970 Kelloggs 3D Bob Gibson (#71)? Clean, no cracks. Pretty good card!

If more than one person claims it by tomorrow morning, I'll roll a dice or something.

=================

To: , 
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:34:44 -0500
From: richard dingman 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 Topps Milton Bradley

Shawn Adkins' online variations list treats these "Milton Bradley yellow back"
cards as variations and lists some 75 of them throughout the set.
I am trying to collect them as variations and so far have only about 7 of them.
 I would like to find more.
Richard D

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: tvalacak@comcast.netDate: Thu, 22 Jan
2009 22:20:36 +0000Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1968 Topps Milton Bradley

As I was looking through my 1968 set, I noticed a number of cards with bright
yellow backs. If I'm not mistaken (And I think George would be the man to
help me) these are from the Milton Bradley game. I'm just wondering what most
of the group does with their 68 sets. Do you have some of these in your
set? Are they considered Topps variations? Yikes. First the OPC gremlins,now

=================

To: "vct" ,
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:58:31 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: 1966 black bat batman needs

I am still in the hunt for the following:
1966 batman black bat any condition
I have at least 11 dupes in vg under condition
any help

Anthony Arbeeny
=================

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:56:33 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: question about ultra pro pages

OK gang, looking online for a good source for 9 card ultra pro
pages...question is what is the difference between silver page and
platinum?  just curious to find out about the couple of dollar
difference per box.

thanks in advance

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:07:36 -0800 (PST)
To: jd3681 , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about ultra pro pages

JD and OBC

I can get Ultra-Pro 9 pockets for $11 a box of 100. Shipping via USPS is $9.85
for two boxes and $13.50 for four boxes. This is the least expensive shipping
I found. That's about 16 each for two and $14.38 each for four...delivered.
I have to buy at least 10 boxes to get this price.

The ones I get are the Platinum Series

LMK ifanyone wants some.

John Stamper

--- On Thu, 1/22/09, jd3681  wrote:

From: jd3681 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question about ultra pro pages
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 6:56 PM

OK gang, looking online for a good source for 9 card ultra pro
pages...question is what is the difference between silver page and
platinum? just curious to find out about the couple of dollar
difference per box.

thanks in advance

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:39:14 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: RE: Auction update

OBCers: There are less than 3 days until the end of the auction.  Voting ends
on Sunday the 25th at 9:00 pm EST.  Thanks for all the votes! http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:34:35 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: auction lot #61 info

Hey, everyone.  The auction lot I'm donating (#61: 1953-1980 all
vintage dupes from the team of your choice) is going for more than I
had expected.  I really hope these bids are more for helping the group
out than for calculating the potential value of what the bidders are
hoping to get.  But still, I think maybe I need to clear it up, and
"up the ante" a bit to reflect the bids.  THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW
ABOUT LOT 61:

1) DETAILS!!!  Basically, I take my entire dupes box, and pull out
every card of whatever team the winner asks for.  Right now my vintage
dupes box stands at about 3,000 cards.  To be a little more specific,
there's nearly 1,000 dupes from 1980.  Probably 1,700 from 1970-1979.
And about 300 from 1960-1969.  Then about a dozen from 1953-1959.
It's just too easy to give away dupes from the 50's, so I don't have a
whole lot of those.  But I did add a '55 last night, from going
through my pre-57 Braves collection.  That tells you what team it is!
I tell you what... I will list all the teams represented in my 50's
dupes on the Ramblings server tonight.

2) BOOKS!!!  I have a decent little baseball book collection.  I will
throw in a book relating to the winning bidder's team - if I have one,
and they want it.  If you are interested in learning more, just ask
and I will let you know some titles.  In fact, I will probably put
some books in the next auction if people are interested.  I need the
shelf space.  Who doesn't?

3) UV ALERT!!!  I have tens of thousands of UV dupes... and if the
winner is interested, I will add in a significant amount of those.  I
didn't mention that before for obvious reasons.  I know a bunch of
late-80's and early 90's cards isn't really what people would be
excited about.  So I thought maybe a stack of EARLY 80's cards and a
stack of stuff from the last 5-8 years or so... well, that would give
them some active players - players they could root for come April...

Please email if you have any more questions about this lot.

=================

Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:28:20 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Cardboard Stimulus Packages go out today

102 separate envelopes will be mailed today and tomorrow for my biggest
mailing in three years. Enjoy the cardboard and happy new year.

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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 01:27:45 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: auction lot #61 - some more detail

For those interested in lot 61, this is the 50's portion of my dupes
box.  See if your team is listed.

1953 Topps 194 Eddie Kazak TIGERS.  Border trimmed off.
1955 Bowman 218 Joe Adcock BRAVES.
1955 Topps 23 Jack Parks BRAVES.  Miscut but still pretty nice.
1955 Topps 101 Johnny Gray A'S.
1955 Topps 117 Mel Roach BRAVES.
1956 Topps 82 Bill Renna A'S.
1957 Topps 256 Ronnie Kline PIRATES.
1958 Topps 82 Ronnie Kline PIRATES. Normal OBC condition.
1958 Topps 135 Moe Drabowski CUBS.  Missing about 20% on the top left,
but the picture is complete!
1959 Topps 173 Bill Monbouquette RED SOX.  Top right 2% cut off.
1959 Topps 174 Jim Pendleton PIRATES.
1959 Topps 197 Ray Semproch PHILLIES.
1959 Topps 384 Dave Sisler RED SOX. Top right 2% cut off.
1959 Topps 437 Ike Delock RED SOX.  Top right 2% cut off.
1959 Topps 443 Daryl Spencer GIANTS.  Torn in half and reassembled
with very old tape.

So the team totals are: 3 Braves, 3 Pirates, 3 Red Sox, 2 A's, 1
Giant, 1 Phillie, 1 Tiger, and 0.8 Cubs.

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:29:15 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update

There are 2 days left in the auction, which will end on Sunday at 9:00 pm EST.
I will issue the final results shortly thereafter with details pertaining
to payment and shipping.  Enjoy the weekend. http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html
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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:28:07 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: New article on the Library

Hello to all in OBC land,

Just want to let everyone know there is a new article from George Vrechek on
Irv Lerver, Hobby Veteran from the fighting city of Philadelphia.  As usual,
an excellent read by one of our own.  Thanks George for the contribution
to the library page.Joe
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:52:24 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: 78 Hostess Available

Hey gang,
I have a few dupes from the 78 Hostess available for the claiming.  If
you're working on the set or are a team collector, claim away!

1 Butch Hobson red sox
3 Bob Forsch  cards
10 Doug DeCinces  o's
12 Ed Halicki  giants
91 Rick Manning  indians
92 J.R. Richard  astros
94 Sal Bando  brewers
107 Bill Campbell  red sox

=================

To: 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:56:24 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Old Cardboard Cover Story by "our" Tim Newcomb

OBC's Tim Newcomb has the featured story in the latest issue of Old
Cardboard. Tim covers a lot of ground on the M116s and identifies the

George Vrechek

=================

To: , "George Vrechek" 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:43:01 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Old Cardboard Cover Story by

It's a really terrific article.  If you guys don't subscribe, you should asthere
is a ton of information on prewar sets, very much in the spirit of VCBC.

On Sat 01/24/09 10:56 AM , "George Vrechek" vrechek@ameritech.net sent:
> FYI
> OBC's Tim Newcomb has the featured story in the latest issue of Old
> Cardboard. Tim covers a lot of ground on the M116s and identifies the
> variations.
> George Vrechek
> Links:
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:31:40 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: Problems accessing wantlists.

Today, I threw some cards out on the waiver wire.  One of the claimers
was the Friar.  I wanted to check his wantlist to see if I could add a
few cards, but his wantlist is blocked by my computer security.  I use
Trend Micro Internet security.  Friar's web address is
www.friar4.i8.com.  I looked to see if anyone else in the group has a
similar address.  I found Mark Talbot's with the same i8.  I tried
accessing his wantlist.  Again, I was denied.   Can anyone help out
here?  I am not having problems with other sites.  I don't have any
parental controls set on this computer.  What gives?

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:13:55 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update

We are finally getting down to the wire on the Auction for Soldiers - less than
22 hours.  I will do my best tomorrow to check more frequently.  Good luck!
http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:57:39 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Joe Isaac" 
Subject: Re: Problems accessing wantlists.

What is your security level set for Internet Explorer?  Pop-up Blocker
has blocked a pop-up window on the web pages of Friar and Mark.  You
may want to try to turn this off and temporarily allow pop-ups.

Go to Tools - Internet Options - Privacy tab - uncheck "Turn on Pop_up

Anyone else have a suggestion?

--- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "T.J. Valacak" 
> Today, I threw some cards out on the waiver wire.  One of the
> was the Friar.  I wanted to check his wantlist to see if I could add
> few cards, but his wantlist is blocked by my computer security.  I
> Trend Micro Internet security.  Friar's web address is
> www.friar4.i8.com.  I looked to see if anyone else in the group has a
> similar address.  I found Mark Talbot's with the same i8.  I tried
> accessing his wantlist.  Again, I was denied.   Can anyone help out
> here?  I am not having problems with other sites.  I don't have any
> parental controls set on this computer.  What gives?
> TJ

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:22:57 -0800
From: marcpeter@juno.com
Subject: Martian Sam

Hey all - I heard a great radio drama tonight that a friend sent me.
Runs 15 minutes or so - here is the link - you may have to cut and paste
it to your browser:

http://www.ottolejeune.com/xpodcast/57-04-03_095_Martian_Sam.mp3

A must listen for old radio / baseball fans and especially Dodger fans!

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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:08:26 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction update

Less than 6 hours left on the Auction for Soldiers.

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.htmlJoe

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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:25:34 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction for Soldiers is OVER

Well, after 10 days, the auction for the Soldiers is over.  Thanks to everyone
who placed bids, the final tally was $449.50.  $150 will go to Bob Bannon
and balance goes to the OBC treasury for future expenses.Here is a list of
the donors, winners and winning bid for each lot.

Lot #
Final Bid

1910 Hassan Animal Cards: Cape Hunting Dog, Civet-Cat, Rhino
Spike Glidden
Andy Cook

1912 t207 Krause
Mac Wubben
Brian Lindholme

1933 Goudey lot of 6 (OBC specials!): 14, 26, 30, 33, 34, 36
Spike Glidden
Neal Thomas

1935 Goudey (Coleman et al)
Mac Wubben
Peter Mead

1936 Goudey Bucky Harris
TJ Valacak

1956 topps #173 johnny podres (grey back)
Ant Arbeeny
Richard Dingman

1956 Topps lot of three 82, 144,168
Brian Betza
Aaron Shirley

1960 fleer football 11 card lot  #93,94,96,114,115,117,120,122,125,126,130
Ant Arbeeny
TJ Valacak

1969 Topps #95 Johnny Bench nice image,
Andy Cook
John Stamper

1970 Topps 6 card lot  198 (Mets Celebrate/Ryan) 199 (ALCS-Cuellar) 309(WS-Koosman)346(Schoendienst)
436 (Phillies) 448 (Astros) 696 (Giants)
Brian Betza
Ryan Distelrath

1972 BB semi highs 25 different  (#526-655)
Mike Rich
Aaron Shirley

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Peter Mead

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Peter Mead

1972 Topps Willie Mays #49
Ken Pillion

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Marshall West

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Randy Griffin

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1973-74 lot     1973 Pirates and Red Sox Blue Checklist, 1974 Wash variation
# 387, 1974 Red Checklists Giants*, Tigers**, and Phillies**
John Leroux
John Stamper

1973-74 OPC Hockey 100 different
Mike Rich

1973-74 topps basketball #142 earl monroe
Ant Arbeeny
Randy Griffin

1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete Set
Andy Cook
Larry Tipton

1974 football team checklist starter set with 15 each : lions,patriots,saints,radiers,steelers,oilers,eagles,49ers,cowboys,cards,chargers,bills,browns=
Ant Arbeeny
Ray Luurs

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Marshall West

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1976 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
Rich Niessen

1977 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
Rich Niessen

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1979 Topps lot of 50 with stars - carew ldr, rice ldr, ryan ldr, morgan, winfield,
eck, garvey, stargell, yount, seaver, sutton, bench, mccovey, morris,
carew, yaz, perry, cobb ldr, aaron ldrx2, cobb ldr, brock, young ldr, ryan
ldr, parker, concepcion, pe
Lynn Miller
John Stamper

1981 Donruss Variation Lot 56a Steve Garvey, 87a Larry Hisle 131a Pete Rose306a
Gary =93Mathews=94 319a =93Dwane=94 Kuiper 444a Buck Martinez 444b Buck
Martinez,483a Ivan DeJesus, 490a Dave Roberts, 524a Ray Burris, 532a Geoff
Zahn, 554a Mike Vail, 555a Jerry Ma
Geno Wagner
Kevin Martens

1981 Topps football 25 cards (Shell, Upshaw, and Deirdorf)
John Leroux
Randy Griffin

1984 RGI  Willie Mays Story #22 Autographed in blue
John Leroux
Aaron Shirley

1985 (?) Pete Rose Baseball Card Set #49  Autographed in blue
John Leroux
Aaron Shirley

1988 Detroit Pistons Eastern Conference Champion pin
Andy Cook
Randy Griffin

20 card oddball lot of mostly 1978 TCMA's all Cleveland Indians
John Leroux
Rich Niessen

2002  Talking Chuck Thompson bobble head--speaks three phrases including "ain't
the beer cold!"  Thompson is in the HOF as an announcer and was the voice
of both the Colts and the Orioles.
Peter Mead
Neal Thomas

Scottish Lot: Auto'd 8x10 of Bobby Thomson's "The Shot..." + Official ball marker
from 2005 Open Championship (British) at The Old Course, St Andrews
Glen Codere
Neal Thomas

Baseball funpack: 1988 All Star Pop up Set. all 20 cards, "un-popped, NMT 1991
Sealed set of Classic Draft Picks w/Brien Taylor #1 on the front. Mint 1992
Sealed box, UD All Star Fanfest, Mint 1988 sealed box set, CMC AAA AllStar
Set of minor leaguers, Gregg Jeffries on front, Mint 4 unopened 1987 Topps
wax packs unopened 1988 MLB round playing cards
Bob Bannon
Bill Ashton

1939-46 Salutation Exhibits: Pollet  Dixie Walker Pafko  Mize McCormick Marion
Feller Cavarretta
Bob Bannon
Mark Talbot

1975 OPC #260 Johnny Bench
Rick Lyons
Kevin Martens

1975 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson
Rick Lyons
Aaron Shirley

1935 Diamond Star #38 Chapman
Brock Hattox

1951 Bowman #85 Kazak
Brock Hattox
Gary Mandell

1956 Topps Lot: 224, 54, 34, 23
Brock Hattox
Mike Rumley-Wells

1956 Topps white back #120 Ashburn
Brock Hattox
Ray Luurs

1958 Topps #81 Boros (white team name)
Brock Hattox
Bill Ashton

1959 Topps Lot 277, 381, 400, 402, 424, 444, 494
Brock Hattox
Bill Ashton

1964 Topps coin #131 Mantle, batting left handed
Bob Reed
Mac Wubben

1953 - 1980 All vintage dupes from the team of your choice
Aaron Shirley
Joshua Levine

1973 Topps Football, 90 cards, water damaged, provided by Kurt Tourdot
Ray Luurs
John Leroux

1958 Topps football Blanda, McDonald, Matson
Ray Luurs
Bob Reed

1976 Wonder Bread FB complete set
Andy Cook
Rick Lyons

lot of 2 1939 Playball - #54, 110
Andy Cook

OBC HOM starter lot of 13 - 1960 Terwilliger , 1960 Triandos, 1961 Held, 1966
Pinson, 1967 Santo, 1969 Horton AS, 1970 Lee, 1971 Mauch, 1971 Gamble, 1971
Davalillo, 1971 Belanger, 1971 Knowles, 1974 Buckner
Brian Betza

Total in bids

Winners, please send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer.  Checks and Money
Orders should be made payable to Bob Donaldson and send the checks directly
to Bob.  If you pay by Paypal, send to treasurer@oldbaseball.comDonors,
please send the items to the winning bidders.  The addresses can be foundon
the OBC directory page.
If there are any questions, please contact me.  Again, thank you for allowing
me to host this auction.

Best regards,Joe
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:12:19 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: First set of 2009 completed

I had the chance to go to a small show today.  The gentleman who runs
the show frequently has some OBC type cards for me.  I leave him my
wantlist and he usually comes though with some great deals.  Today,
he really surprised me.  He had emailed me a few days ago to tell me
that he had a set complete.  That got me excited, and I figured it
was one of the Red Sox or White Sox team sets that I was working on.
When I showed up this morning, I was pleasantly surprised to find out
that I had two sets completed.  My 52 Topps White Sox team set is now
complete, as is my 1954 Topps set.  I was floored.  When this year
began, I had hoped to complete a few sets.  My 55, 56, 60 and 64 sets
are all under 10 cards for completion.  My 65 is under 15.  I felt
that any of those, especially the 60, 64, and 65 were attainable.
But the 54?  I still needed Aaron, Jackie, Banks, and Kaline to name
a few.  There they were today, with a little OBC style.  The Aaron
and Banks have a small "1954" stamped on the lower right.  A small x
on the back as well.  Other than that, they are beauties.  I took the
cards home and checked them off my list.  The next step was the
binder.  As I put each card in its slot, I kept hoping that I
wouldn't find a gremlin.  Luckily, I didn't find a single gremlin.
The 54 set is now to put to rest.  I have to say, it was a great day
for cardboard.

http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:30:08 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction final results

For those of you who receive individual messages rather than digested messages
from the servers, I realized that the post I made regarding the Auctionresults
was cut off by some advertisement on the right side of the screen.I
relisted the auction results at the following link:

http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.html

You can also view it from the Groups Server with no interruptions.
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:17:15 -0800 (PST)
To: "T.J. Valacak" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] First set of 2009 completed

Wow TJ,

What an amazing day for cards. How does it feel to own an Aaron Rookie? Notmany
people have that privilege.

Congratulations on the completion of the 1954 set and the 1952 White Sox Team

John Stamper

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, T.J. Valacak  wrote:

From: T.J. Valacak 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] First set of 2009 completed
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:12 PM

I had the chance to go to a small show today. The gentleman who runs
the show frequently has some OBC type cards for me. I leave him my
wantlist and he usually comes though with some great deals. Today,
he really surprised me. He had emailed me a few days ago to tell me
that he had a set complete. That got me excited, and I figured it
was one of the Red Sox or White Sox team sets that I was working on.
When I showed up this morning, I was pleasantly surprised to find out
that I had two sets completed. My 52 Topps White Sox team set is now
complete, as is my 1954 Topps set. I was floored. When this year
began, I had hoped to complete a few sets. My 55, 56, 60 and 64 sets
are all under 10 cards for completion. My 65 is under 15. I felt
that any of those, especially the 60, 64, and 65 were attainable.
But the 54? I still needed Aaron, Jackie, Banks, and Kaline to name
a few. There they were today, with a little OBC style. The Aaron
and Banks have a small "1954" stamped on the lower right. A small x
on the back as well. Other than that, they are beauties. I took the
cards home and checked them off my list. The next step was the
binder. As I put each card in its slot, I kept hoping that I
wouldn't find a gremlin. Luckily, I didn't find a single gremlin.
The 54 set is now to put to rest. I have to say, it was a great day
for cardboard.

http://www.oldbaseb all.com/wantlist s/valacak. htm

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:57:17 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Lynn Miller 
Subject: A Great Day in Vegas

And it had nothing to do with a casino.  I finally accomplished one of my OBC missions.  To attend a card show!  And it was even sweeter with another OBC member and good friend, Rich Niessen.  Turns out a local card shop does sponsor dealers a few times a year and they set up in a local mall.  I will admit there weren't many of them and overall the vintage cards were more plentiful than I  would have expected but generally in much better condition than I am accustomed to.  The main guy for me was a dealer from Salt Lake City named Dave Trimble who knows some OBC members, including Marshall West, and recollects the gatherings in Las Vegas and specifically the barbeques and golf tournaments sponsored by Mike Hair.  I made a few purchases from Dave though and found another dealer that I was able to do some significant damage to my Topps 2008 U&H set.  Rich had been to these before and when he made me aware of the dates we were able to coordinate my day-off
from work today to take it in.  The temptation was huge but I did have to restrain myself.  Wish we would have had more time.  It went too quickly.  It was a glorious way to spend a day with a friend.  Can't wait for the next one and another day with Rich.  Lynn

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To: 
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:28:20 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
Subject: New Scanner/  My 1953 Topps set

http://members.tripod.com/familytoad/53Topps.html

OBC world,
I bought myself a new scanner...and I'm lovin' it.
It's the best $93 I've spent in a long time...cuz It's got me looking at myold
cards again!

I scanned my whole 53Topps set, right in the binder pages...and the pics came
out pretty good! You can see some definite OBC Tipton Mints in here!

Check out the link above if you are so inclined...I just dumped them all onone
page for now, maybe I'll dress it up later this week.

I'll be a scanning fool for awhile...I hope to have a nicer representation of
my collection online this year. That's my main collecting focus now thatT205
is complete (yes, I'll be scanning every card and posting them too !!!

Thanks for indulging!
OBC Forever

=================

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:32:06 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: Brian's 53 set

I like so many things about the 53 set.  Just off the top of my head...

- The Braves cards start out in Boston and switch to Milwaukee, after
Vern Bickford.  With these cards being paintings, there was no nasty
airbrushing to mess these up.

- The walls behind the players often have very interesting advertising
on them, for TOPPS chewing gum...  and some have partial names of the

- When I was in high school Topps issued the original Archives set,
featuring these beauties.  I got to compare the few originals I had at
the time with those smaller reprints...

Thanks for the scans, Brian.  Very nice.

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To: ,
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:25:18 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Scanner/  My 1953 Topps set

Nope, except for Rizzuto and Riddle, where there isn't enough cardboard to keep
them together :)...I did it Ginger-ly
Although I always like Mary-Ann better.

And there are already a lot of creases so stuffing into the slightly smaller
pockets didn't hurt too bad. If you have nice cards, maybe you should getthe
8 pockets for this set.

Neal, it must be my nifty new scanner that makes them all look good...closeup,
there are some Tipton HOFers, trust me!

All, thanks for the nice words...and you bet I will be scanning more!
I encourage all of us to do so!

OBC Forever
----- Original Message -----
From: tvalacak@comcast.net
To: Brian Lindholme
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Scanner/ My 1953 Topps set

Your set looks great.  Was there any difficulty getting the cards in 9 pocket

T.J. Valacak
OBC member since August 2005
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/valacak.htm

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:28:20 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New Scanner/  My 1953 Topps set

http://members.tripod.com/familytoad/53Topps.html

OBC world,
I bought myself a new scanner...and I'm lovin' it.
It's the best $93 I've spent in a long time...cuz It's got me looking at my
old cards again!

I scanned my whole 53Topps set, right in the binder pages...and the pics came
out pretty good! You can see some definite OBC Tipton Mints in here!

Check out the link above if you are so inclined...I just dumped them all on
one page for now, maybe I'll dress it up later this week.

I'll be a scanning fool for awhile...I hope to have a nicer representation
of my collection online this year. That's my main collecting focus now that
T205 is complete (yes, I'll be scanning every card and posting them too !!!

Thanks for indulging!
OBC Forever

=================

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:21:16 EST
To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: biggies@aol.com
Subject: thanks MT

Thanks out to HOFer MARK TALBOT for 2 hits to my kids 1970 sets and a  couple
of 73 variations as well as a slab of schedules and some scented  temptations
for my wife.

He sends the total package, thanks Mark,   BB
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:39:40 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: question about kelloggs and post cards

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
evilbay.....I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
look and see what these were going for.

here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up?  I found a
couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the

thanks in advance

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:54:44 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: another question---this one about cards in binders

I am starting to put my sets in binders, my question is this--do you
put the cards in penny sleeves and then in the page? or just the card?

thanks again and thanks OBC

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:04:04 -0500
To: jd3681 
From: Bob Donaldson 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

When buying 70s Kellogs in lots on ebay a few years back I was usually
able to pick them up quite cheap.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:39 AM, jd3681  wrote:
> Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
> evilbay.....I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
> look and see what these were going for.
> here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up? I found a
> couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
> not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the
> veterans.
> thanks in advance
> JD

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:05:43 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hi JD!

I've always liked those Kelloggs 3D cards. In order to get them when I was a
kid, I remember secretly throwing out Corn Flakes during the summer, so that
my Mom would have to buy more.

I started reconstructing my 3D collection about 10 years back, concentrating
totally on 1970, 1971, and 1972. There are 75 cards in each of the 1970 and
1971 sets, and 54 in the '72. Of those 3 sets, the '71s are probably thetoughest.
They are scarcer than the other 2 as they were not available from
Kelloggs as a complete set at the time. Because of this, they usually cost
a bit more too.

The other issue is of course condition. Because of the way they are made, the
3D cards tends to curl and crack very easily. If you don't mind the cracks,
you can probably put together these sets reasonably soon and fairly cheaply.
For me, I look for uncracked 1970 and 1972, but don't mind a little damage
to the '71s.

Its also worth knowing that within these sets,variations abound. They usually
involveamendments & errors concerning the stats printed on the back.
I think I'm right in saying that the SCD catalog details most of the variations
for you.

All in all, the 3Ds are fun cards to go for. You should be able to pick up 75%
of the '70 and '72 sets for no more than a couple bucks a cards in uncracked
condition. The stars are a little pricier ($5-10), but with patience you
should be able to pick up even the highest value cards in the sets for $10-15.
I found4 of the last5 1970s that I needed (Banks, Seaver, Aparicio,
Stargell) and 2 of the last 3 1972s (Rose, Williams) from a dealer at
the Gibraltar show where we met. All of them were $7 or less. As I said earlier,
the '71s might cost you a little more, but its not worth overpaying.
They do come up fairly often and its just a matter of getting your bids in
and staying patient.

Personally, I've still got 1 card to go from 1970 and 1972 ('70 Rose & '72 Clemente),
with 22 left on the 1971 list.

Go for it!!

Glasgow, Scotland

From: jd3681 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:39:40 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
evilbay..... I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
look and see what these were going for.

here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up? I found a
couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the

thanks in advance

=================

To: OBC Ramblings 
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:41:50 -0500
From: Bob Reed 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

A little eBay trick.  When searching for Kelloggs cards do searches for Xograph.
People that don't know what they are will list them Xograph because that's
what it says on the back of the card.  I believe I picked up the complete
1970 set in mint condition that way for around $25 about 7 or 8 yearsago.

Good luck.

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: jd3681@yahoo.comDate: Tue, 27 Jan 2009
15:39:40 +0000Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on evilbay.....I
have neer put any of these together so thought I would look and see
what these were going for.here is my question...how hard are these setsto
gather up? I found a couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond
hi book. I am not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would
ask the veterans.thanks in advanceJD

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To: ,
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:47:16 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

LOL.  I'm tellin' Ma!

----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Codere
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hi JD!

I've always liked those Kelloggs 3D cards. In order to get them when I was
a kid, I remember secretly throwing out Corn Flakes during the summer, sothat
my Mom would have to buy more.

I started reconstructing my 3D collection about 10 years back, concentrating
totally on 1970, 1971, and 1972. There are 75 cards in each of the 1970and
1971 sets, and 54 in the '72. Of those 3 sets, the '71s are probably the
toughest. They are scarcer than the other 2 as they were not available from
Kelloggs as a complete set at the time. Because of this, they usually cost
a bit more too.

The other issue is of course condition. Because of the way they are made,the
3D cards tends to curl and crack very easily. If you don't mind the cracks,
you can probably put together these sets reasonably soon and fairly cheaply.
For me, I look for uncracked 1970 and 1972, but don't mind a littledamage
to the '71s.

Its also worth knowing that within these sets, variations abound. They usually
involve amendments & errors concerning the stats printed on the back.I
think I'm right in saying that the SCD catalog details most of the variations
for you.

All in all, the 3Ds are fun cards to go for. You should be able to pick up
75% of the '70 and '72 sets for no more than a couple bucks a cards in uncracked
condition. The stars are a little pricier ($5-10), but with patience
you should be able to pick up even the highest value cards in the sets for
$10-15. I found 4 of the last 5 1970s that I needed (Banks, Seaver, Aparicio,
Stargell) and 2 of the last 3 1972s (Rose, Williams) from a dealer at the
Gibraltar show where we met. All of them were $7 or less. As I said earlier,
the '71s might cost you a little more, but its not worth overpaying. They
do come up fairly often and its just a matter of getting your bids in and
staying patient.

Personally, I've still got 1 card to go from 1970 and 1972 ('70 Rose & '72
Clemente), with 22 left on the 1971 list.

Go for it!!

Glasgow, Scotland

From: jd3681 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:39:40 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
evilbay..... I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
look and see what these were going for.

here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up? I found a
couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the

thanks in advance

=================

To: ,
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:49:28 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

I was able to finish them all fairly easily.  Toward the end of each, therewere
always one or two cards which were hard to find, although not particularly
expensive.  Oddly, the one set that isn't 3D (the '73 set, I think itis)
was one of the toughest to find, although again, not particularly expensive
when I did find them.  The xograph tip that Bob posted will probably turn
out to be a helpful hint, if you decide to do it.

----- Original Message -----
From: jd3681
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
evilbay.....I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
look and see what these were going for.

here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up? I found a
couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the

thanks in advance

=================

To: ,
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:51:38 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Also, I should have added.....I made no attempt whatsoever to identify or obtain
any variations.  :)

----- Original Message -----
From: jd3681
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
evilbay.....I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
look and see what these were going for.

here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up? I found a
couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the

thanks in advance

=================

To: ,
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:11:09 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

I completely missed the Post part of JD's request, but I couldnt' possibly have
added anything to Peter's wonderful response.  I completed the 1961, 1962
and 1963 Post sets, disdaining the jello and other variations, with theAspromonte
being the killer.  Occasionally, I would find a seller trying to
stick me with a jello, intentionally or not.  I would keep it, and eitherresell
it with proper identification (did pretty well with these, actually)
or pass it on within obc.

These were tremendously fun to work on, and I was as psyched about finishing
them as much as any Topps set, but yeah, they sure did get scarce - and expensive
- toward the end.

----- Original Message -----
From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net
To: jd3681@yahoo.com
Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] question about kelloggs and post cards

The only responses I see to JD=E2=99s request focus on Xograp Kellog cards.
No one has yet responded on the Post front=E2=94so I thought I might
pipe in on some of my favorite sets.

Post produced sets from 1960-1963 (that is if you can consider the 1960 group
of cards a set=E2=94or if you even consider them cards).  Here is my
recap of the various sets:

1960 Post=E2=94This is a set of nine cards (five baseball, two baseketball,
two football).  The cards are approximately 7 x 8 1/2 and were distributed
on the backs of Grape Nuts cereal.  These normally run above $25 each,
even in lesser condition,  with a few stars (Mantle) costing considerablymore.
(the set includes Bob Cousey, Bob Pettitt, Frank Gifford, Johnny U, Kaline,
Drysdale, Mathews, Mantle, and Killebrew).  I have two of these andboth
of them have the telltale sign of having been stuck to a wall with a thumbtack.

1961 Post=E2=94This was Post=E2=99s first of three annual 200 card sets
that were traditionally found on the back of cereal boxes (or as an insert
in those small ten-package variety packs).  This is the only one of the
three annual sets that has a box version and a company version. A complete
set can not be put together without cards from both box and company variation.

Box cards were cut off the back of cereal boxes by kids with scissors=E2=94so
they are perfect for the OBC collector.  There are a number of boxonly
cards=E2=94in other words, there are cards that were not part of the
mail order company cards.

Company cards arrived in team sets of ten cards and were separated by perforations.
The cardboard is slightly lighter in weight than the box cards.You
may also be able to differentiate box vs. company because some company
cards will exhibit the perforation tabs.

The Company team sets includes some players who were traded mid-season creating
a number of different variations.  For example, the box card of GeneConley
shows him as a Phillie. The corresponding company card still shows him
as a Phillie but another line of text is in the bio portion indicating =E2=9Ctraded
to the Red Sox=E2=9D on a certain date. Conley is part of
the mail away Red Sox team set (perfect for the variation collector).

This set is readily available with the exception of two cards, both of which
are company only cards:  Chuck Estrada of the Orioles and Chuck Stobbs of
the Twins. Both of these cards run $75 or more (I was lucky enough to get
a mislabeled Stobbs on Ebay for $12 a couple of years ago).  You should be
able to find bulk lots of these cards for $.50-.75 each.  Short prints and
stars will obviously be more expensive.

1962 Post=E2=94This set is probably the easiest of the three sets to build.
American League players comprise the numbers from 1-100.  Each card has
the Post logo on it and the statistics have a blue border around them. The
National League numbers from 101-200 and have a red border around the statistics.

There are short prints scattered throughout the set, but all are more readily
available than SPs from either 1961 or 1963=E2=94Sieburn, Keough, Hodges,
Coleman, Lynch to name a few.  Most of the games stars are represented
in this set with a few exceptions=E2=94Stan Musial and Warren Sphan (even
though he was in the 1961 set) come to mind.

There are also fifteen or so variations in this set.  By far the most difficult
are the blue line versions of Koufax, Clemente and Joey Jay.  These cards
have the normal red border around the statistics, but the hairline rules
dividing the statistics is blue rather than red.  There are also two versions
of Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris.  One from the back of the cereal boxes
whereas the second was an insert in an April 1962 edition of Life Magazine
promoting the Post baseball card set.  The final notable variation is of
Brave Joe Adcock.  Post misspelled his name on the some of the press run=E2=94so
collectors look for the Joe Adock variation.

You should be able to pick up inexpensive bulk lots on this set as well. All
of the SPs can be found on Ebay on a semi-regular basis.  Simply be patient.

1962 Post Canadian=E2=94(maybe Grant can fill in some of the gaps on this
set). A sister set to the 1962 American edition.  This set comprises the
same two hundred cards.  Primary differences=E2=94this set is bi-lingual
and none of the cards have either a blue or red border around the statistics.

The first 150 or so cards can be found without a lot of difficulty. Then it
begins to get difficult.  I am down to needing seventeen cards and haven=E2=99t
seen even one of them at auction or for sale over the last threeor
four months. A number of us are hovering around needing 40 cards for completion.

Commons go for a buck or two each.  Short prints are considerably more expensive=E2=94if
you can find them.  There are also a number of variations,
mostly around bio language differences.

1962 Jello=E2=94Another set that is a cousin of the main 1962 set.  The
primary differences=E2=94these cards do not have the Post logo and do not
have any colored border around the statistics.  This set is comprised of
197 cards=E2=94for some reason the set is missing Brooks Robinson, TedKluzewski,
and Smokey Burgess.  Post also substituted a different player for
card number 19.  In the American set #19 is Rocky Colavito (a major starof
the day), but in the 1962 Jello set #19 is journeyman Ken Aspromonte.

These cards are tough to find and prices seem to be going up.  I try to find
commons for between $3-5.  I am presuming that some of these are near impossible
to find as well=E2=94Bobby Richardson for example.  I think Ray
Luurs has more of these than anyone else in OBC and he still needs more than

1963 Post/Jello=E2=94Two sets that look very similar with two minor differences.
The Post cards are slightly larger, width wise, than the Jello set,
and the hairline rule separating the statistics is shorter on the Jello
version.  The easiest way to remember this is to compare a Jello and Postcard
side by side=E2=94and then you won=E2=99t ever forget the differences.

The easiest way to approach this set is to try and build a composite set.There
are a number of short prints in both sets that are tough=E2=94and
they are different Post to Jello.  For example, Post versions of Jim Bunning,
Yaz, Jiminez, Floyd Robinson, Willie Davis, Billy Williams and Curt Flood
are all really tough. The Jello versions of these cards are much easierto
locate=E2=94but be aware that many dealers and Ebay sellers frequently
try to sell these cards as Post (when they are actually the Jello version).

The overall Jello set is chock full of short prints.  There are at least 40-50
different cards in the set that are harder to find.  I think one of Ray
Luurs=E2=99 last cards in this set was Don Mossi=E2=94the Jello version
is really tough to find, whereas the Post version is easy.

Last note=E2=94this set has the toughest card to find across any of the
Post sets=E2=94Bob Aspromonte.  He must have been found only on Bran Flakes
(or some other tasteless cereal) because he is near impossible to find.
 Another toughie in either Jello or Post will be Jerry Adair.

But the chase is fun=E2=94and there are enough different sets to make it
a long chase.

Peter Mead

Jan 27, 2009 09:39:46 AM, jd3681@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey gang, been looking at early 70's Kellogs and the 60's post cards on
evilbay.....I have neer put any of these together so thought I would
look and see what these were going for.

here is my question...how hard are these sets to gather up? I found a
couple of lots of 70 kelloggs and the price was beyond hi book. I am
not used to paying that much for cards so i thought I would ask the

thanks in advance

=================

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:33:52 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jimbo777777" 
Subject: Marhsall Bridges

Yet another plea for help......I'm still looking for that image of
Marshall Bridges from the 1961 Cincinnati Reds.....it was in some sort
of Reds regional issue, and a generous OBC'r once gave me a pic of it,
but I'm an idiot, and I lost it.  I'd really like to have it again.
Forgot who the obc'r was.....can anybody help?

=================

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:19:10 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Looking for a Berk Ross image

Does anyone have a good image of the '52 Berk Ross #66 Bobby Thomson card? JPG or GIF format would be great. Ideally, I'd like something about 300 x 300 pixels, but bigger would be OK too.

I need the image for my little animated Top 30 on my home page.

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:04:12 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: '55 bowman funny

check out #150 Bill Klaus (Red Sox infielder)... read the back of his
card and see who his "childhood hero" is :)

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:42:47 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: mead read

would it be possible to add peter mead's wonderful write up of the
post/jello sets on the obc website? i think it would make a wonderful resource,  and
perhaps, can be expanded on re:variations.  similar to the 62 green  tint

wonderful work peter.  thanks for taking the time to enlighten  us!

Gary  Mandell
3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108
Chicago, IL  60613-5518

OCT, OBC, DT, TB
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To: "obc rambling" ,
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:47:49 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: 1956 davey crockett

I am in need of the following which I just realized I am close to completing:
1956 davey crockett # orange back #8,10,11,13,14,16,25,35,37,39,51,54

Dupes in mix condion:
1956 crockett orange back #20,22,27,42,49,74

anthony arbeeny

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:27:40 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] mead read

Hey OBC,

I second this idea. I was just trying to figure out where I could savePeters
info on the Post setsfor my future reference. The OBC web site is the
perfect place.

Great work Peter, Thanks

John Stamper

--- On Tue, 1/27/09, smartalecx@aol.com  wrote:

From: smartalecx@aol.com 
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] mead read
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 6:42 PM

would it be possible to add peter mead's wonderful write up of the post/jello
sets on the obc website? i think it would make a wonderful resource, andperhaps,
can be expanded on re:variations. similar to the 62 green tintresource.

wonderful work peter. thanks for taking the time to enlighten us!

Gary Mandell
3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108
Chicago, IL 60613-5518

OCT, OBC, DT, TB

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:11:27 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
Subject: my Favorite Cards....what about yours?

Hello All,
Here Is a list/Picture of my favorite cards I have, and  alittle story as
to what makes these cards so Special.

1956 Topps Mickey Mantle
Well I always  thought it was the Micks Nicest card, and when I was in  High
School I saw the movie "Needful Things" and the card was in the movie, In  the
book it was a 56 koufax. One year my wife asked John Morrison if he had one,
and he did.

1953 Topps Mantle, again beautiful card and the wife bought it for  me.

1958 Topps Mantle A/S when i was 12 i saw the movie "Stand By me" in the
scene when Gordy is day dreaming about his Brother you can see the card in the
background stuck to the wall, wver since then I wanted it, and then a few years
ago Father Pat sent it my way.

1957 Topps Roberto Clemente and Duke Snider  I remember my father  going to
the card shop and wanting to buy me the Snider, but I fell in love with  the
Clemente. He was so excited to buy me "The Duke of FLatbush" but i wanted  that
Clemente. so we made a deal, he bought me the Snider, and I bought the
Clemente with my allowance. and the shop was asking $25 for the card at the time  we
talked him down to $20. so every Saturday for the next 4 weeks Dad and I
went to the shop to give him my $5 allowance while my card was on lay away. So a
few things were accomplished. It tought me how to save $$ for something I
wanted. I got my first Clemente card, and 4 weeks of baseball cards in a row
with my dad/

E-95 Mathewson. I love Matty, and My budy Andy Cok was selling it on ebay
and he pulled it off and i got it for a great deal, I love this card.

1960 Topps Andy Cary
Well THis cards is worth MILLIONS to me. This is the card that  started it
all for me. in 1985 i was 8 and I had just started collecting  baseball cards
Fleer and Topps. and when i showed an interest, my dad pulled out  this card
that he managed to save from the wrath of my grandmothers cleaning. He  gave it
to me and told me this was his as a kid and this is when baseball cards  were
a real hobby. I put that card in a plastic and its in my special place for
special cards. Thanks Dad for this one.

and finally

1961 Topps Mantle MVP. quite possibly my favorite card of all time. This  was
the very first Mickey Mantle card I ever got.  Easter morning  1989 I came
down and saw my easter basket, and there it was in the center.  My dad had
bought it for me along with a 62 snider and a 63 Charlie Neal. WOW I  remember
that....can you guys see why that might be my favorite all time  card?

If you like the story and have special cards  and would like to  share....Id
love to see/hear and Im sure a lot of the guys would also like to  see and

Rob "The FIREMAN"
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
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To: ,
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:19:00 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] my Favorite Cards....what about yours?

Simply awesome!

That's what we are all doing here...I'll have to think about my favorite card(s)
and try to write something about them.
I just wanted to bump this along and keep it alive.
C'mon gang...send some scans and some stories!!
OBC FOREVER

----- Original Message -----
From: DaPatriot1@aol.com
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:11 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] my Favorite Cards....what about yours?

Hello All,
Here Is a list/Picture of my favorite cards I have, and alittle story as
to what makes these cards so Special.

1956 Topps Mickey Mantle
Well I always  thought it was the Micks Nicest card, and when I was in High
School I saw the movie "Needful Things" and the card was in the movie, In
the book it was a 56 koufax. One year my wife asked John Morrison if he had
one, and he did.

1953 Topps Mantle, again beautiful card and the wife bought it for me.

1958 Topps Mantle A/S when i was 12 i saw the movie "Stand By me" in the scene
when Gordy is day dreaming about his Brother you can see the card in the
background stuck to the wall, wver since then I wanted it, and then a few
years ago Father Pat sent it my way.

1957 Topps Roberto Clemente and Duke Snider  I remember my father going to
the card shop and wanting to buy me the Snider, but I fell in love with the
Clemente. He was so excited to buy me "The Duke of FLatbush" but i wanted
that Clemente. so we made a deal, he bought me the Snider, and I bought the
Clemente with my allowance. and the shop was asking $25 for the card at the
time we talked him down to $20. so every Saturday for the next 4 weeks Dad
and I went to the shop to give him my $5 allowance while my card was onlay
away. So a few things were accomplished. It tought me how to save $$ for
something I wanted. I got my first Clemente card, and 4 weeks of baseball
cards in a row with my dad/

E-95 Mathewson. I love Matty, and My budy Andy Cok was selling it on ebayand
he pulled it off and i got it for a great deal, I love this card.

1960 Topps Andy Cary
Well THis cards is worth MILLIONS to me. This is the card that started it
all for me. in 1985 i was 8 and I had just started collecting baseball cards
Fleer and Topps. and when i showed an interest, my dad pulled out thiscard
that he managed to save from the wrath of my grandmothers cleaning. He
gave it to me and told me this was his as a kid and this is when baseballcards
were a real hobby. I put that card in a plastic and its in my special
place for special cards. Thanks Dad for this one.

and finally
1961 Topps Mantle MVP. quite possibly my favorite card of all time. This was
the very first Mickey Mantle card I ever got.  Easter morning 1989 I came
down and saw my easter basket, and there it was in the center. My dad had
bought it for me along with a 62 snider and a 63 Charlie Neal. WOW I remember
that....can you guys see why that might be my favorite all time card?

If you like the story and have special cards  and would like to share....Id
love to see/hear and Im sure a lot of the guys would also like to see and

Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:33:25 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: anyone trade with DON SHERMAN?

Hey everyone.  I am working on a trade with a guy named Don Sherman.
Lots of stuff for my Topps sets, vintage and UV.  Anyone traded with
this guy before?  Good or bad?  Please let me know!!!

PS I like Rob's idea.  I have a picture I will put up tomorrow, with
some of my favorite cards, once I get a chance to write a decent

=================

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:58:28 -0500
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Don Rice 
Subject: My Favorite Card...



The Fireman's post about his favorite cards
prompted me to pull my favorite from its binder for the first time in
quite a while. I'd be willing to bet that not many in this group would
cite a checklist as their favorite card, even a used one! So a little
background. Growing up, my older brother Steve was, at various times,
my main tormentor or my best friend. He was five years older than me
and, although a sports nuts, he was unable to participate fully because
of chronic illness. But it was his interest in sports that got me
headed down that direction, including this "card thing" that has us all
in it's death grip. Steve died in 1985 (he made it to 33!) because of
his illness, and I was left with memories...  and his cards. This is
one of my late brother's cards, and I just love the little inscription
in the lower corner on the back side. I was probably about five years
old when he wrote this. Who knows what I did to prompt it! But its
value? Priceless!  DR
    

    Fink

=================

To: ,
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:12:22 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] my Favorite Cards....what about yours?

Excellent initiative.  I could go on four hours, probably write a book about
my card memories, but let me try these six for starters, as they immediately
come to mind.  Narrative follows the pictures:

1965 Jim Ray Hart:  My best friend and I were Giants fans as kids, and we were
totally obsessed with the '65 Topps.  Anytime we had a spare nickel, wewere
at the candy store buying cards, and we did pretty well.  We got Mays,
we got McCovey, we got Marichal.  But we loved Jim Ray Hart just as much,but
no matter what we did, we could not get him.  But there was this (expletive
deleted) little kid down the street who we hated.  He wouldn't join in
the neighborhood pickup games or most anything we did.  Dunno which came first,
disliking him because he didn't join, or not joining because he was disliked,
but anyway........unlike most of us who were Giants or Yankees fans,
he was a Mets fan.  He didn't give two hoots about our beloved Giants. And
we found out that somehow, HE had gotten the beloved Jim Ray Hart card.
We offered him anything and everything to trade, but he would not do it.It
would be over 30 years before I finally got the Hart card, when I got back
into collecting in the late 90's.  It was one of the first cards I got.

1966 Don Mossi:  Ok, I couldn't resist, but there is a story behind this.  I
had some friends over one day who weren't as much into collecting, and they
ran across Don's card.  Well, you know how cruel kids can be.  Whatever the
method, whatever the means, they were now card collectors, and it's allgood.

1973 Jack Aker:  My best friend and I (same friend from the '65 Hart story)were
trying out for the local American Legion team that summer.  Tryouts were
12 miles away, we had no car, and his older brother, who usually was glad
to drive us to stuff like that, was busy that day.  So, we hitchhiked, in
full uniform, to tryouts.  We made it, had our tryout, then headed back to
the highway to hitchhike home again.  But it was beastly hot that day, so,
as boys will, we stopped at a local tavern on the way.  As we refreshed, there
on the TV was the Saturday game of the week from beautiful Wrigley Field,
sunshine and ivy glistening.  It was late in the game, and Jack Aker was
in trying to protect a late-inning lead for the Cubs.  Just like in the card
picture.  Then, and now, my favorite card of all time.

1969 Joe Sparma strat-o-matic card:  I didn't have a great relationship with
my father.  He hated my card collecting, he ragged on me constantly aboutit,
felt it was a waste of time.  Same with my strat-o-matic playing.  I couldn't
get through to him that because of strat-o-matic, I could easily and
quickly figure out divisional equations to the third decimal point, when most
kids my age didn't know what a decimal was.  Or that because of The Sporting
News, I was reading at an 8th grade level when I was in 4th grade.  That
kind of stuff.  But, I will give him credit for one thing.  Long afterI'd
left home in a huff, when he found my 1969 Joe Sparma under the refrigerator,
stained though it was, he mailed it to me with a note, "thought youmight
want this".    I did, and I still do.

1963 Tex Clevenger:  Oh, to be young and a Yankee.  A great nickname, a great
pose, a great card with great colors.  It is the first one I remember pulling
from a pack as a kid.  I remember it being in school, must've been the
early fall of '63, since it's a semi-high number, #457.  The narrative onthe
back of the card puzzled me.  Gee, dad, if "Tex had the lowest ERA on the
Yanks in '62", why was he "optioned to Richmond in April 1963"?  I didn't
understand.  Did I mention that my father hated my card collecting?

1952 Hoyt Wilhelm:  My wife and I were in Cooperstown, several autumns ago,enjoying
the view of foliage and the ambiance of the village.  And, of course,
I would duck in and out of every card shop in town.  If you've been toCooperstown,
you know that this is a LOT of card shops, or at least it wasat
the time.  I was in the late stages of my '52 Topps quest, and hits were
tough to come by.  Most of the card shops are overpriced, understandable,it
being the most expensive place in the world to buy a card.  Anyway, I had
mostly given up on the quest, when we wandered into a little cigar shop type
of place.  And there, in the corner of the case with the various oddball
stuff, were a bunch of '52 Topps.  The Wilhelm card, one of the last twoor
three I needed to complete the set, a high number which would've sold for
$200 or $300 anyplace else in town, was marked at $95, and the guy said he'd
give it to me for $75 if I paid cash.  My wife bought it for my birthday
present.  (Like many of you guys have said, "Do I have a great wife, or what?!?!?!?")
=================

To: ,
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:52:08 -0500
From: "Jim Beauchemin" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] my Favorite Cards....what about yours?

Ok, one more, can't believe I forgot this one on the first round:

1972 Joe Pepitone:  As young men, my best friend and I had our various favorite
players.  Among them were Joe Pepitone for me, Joe Torre for him.  We would
argue, of course, about who was better.  Not quite Mays-Mantle-Sniderof
bygone years, but you get the idea.  Anyway, as the 1972 season dawned,despite
Torre's MVP '71, Pepi had 208 career home runs, Torre had 205, andI
was ragging on my buddy about it.  The season was delayed some by a strike,
then neither of guys hit any in the early going, so Pepi remained ahead,
when disaster struck.  Along the end of April, Pepi, as he occasionally did
throughout his career, decided he wasn't going to play anymore!  I was devastated.
Torre didn't hit many, but enough so that he had pulled ahead by
the time the mood struck Pepi to play again later in the summer.  By the end
of the year, they were flat-foot tied, with 216 each.

A new spring bloomed, and I was optimistic as '73 dawned.  Pepi was back, and
ready to go.  Both players hit a couple early, and the jousting continued,
when again disaster struck.  Pepi had again worn out his welcome, and had
been traded to Atlanta!  It'll be ok, say I, he'll do well in Atlanta.

A week later, he left for Japan.
=================

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:23:13 -0800
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: MIKE DIAMANTI 
Subject: Antiques Roadshow - Gene Woodling

Well Gals and Guys:
I am assuming that some of our group caught the very popular PBS show,
Antiques Roadshow, this past Monday.  The show was taped in Dallas back in
I always watch this show, as I'm sure Mark Macrae does (!), so that when I
am pawing through a thrift shop or antique store trying to find 19th century
baseball items, I can more easily identify my retirement "objects" that will
propel me to financial independence.  (So far, returns on my investments are
And periodically, of course, on the show, there are baseball-related items.
Like a bunch of Army information (ledgers and paperwork) from World War I on
guys like Cobb and other HOFers who had served someplace in Georgia.  Or
football -- the sweat stained jersey of Gayle Sayers, I think.
But Monday night, it was the daughter of Gene Woodling who had: 5
team-signed World Series balls from 1949 to 1953, two Yankee World Series
rings and 1 Baltimore World Series rings, contracts, etc. etc.
If you want to torture yourself, here's the link.  Mike Guitierrez from
Heritage Galleries was the spokesman who gave the value at:  $ 85,000.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/200802A21.html

Sheessh...one can dream.  Mike Where-is-the-Treasure?! Diowemontee

=================

To: OBC Ramblings server OBC Ramblings server ,
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:15:37 -0500
From: Aaron Shirley 
Subject: some of my favorite cards

This scan represents some of my favorite cards.  But it's a little one-sided,
as you can see.  I have lots of other favorite cards, but not all ready to
be scanned.  Maybe later.

I'm sure I've said this before, but Sam "the Jet" Jethroe is one of my absolute
favorite players because he was the first African-American
Brave.  There were only two who played for the Braves while they were
still in Boston, and the other was George Crowe (73 games in '52).  Sam only
had 3 full
seasons, all in Boston (1950-1952).  Then one AB in 1954 for the
Pirates.  But for those 3 years, he was pretty good - if only he had gottenhis
chance a few years earlier...  He was the
1950 National League Rookie of the Year, and led the league in steals
in '50 and '51 and was 2nd to PeeWee Reese in '52.  The JET, indeed.

But what I love is that he broke the color barrier in Boston on April 18, 1950.
Sam and George played in Boston until 1952, then the Braves moved to Milwaukee...

It wasn't until July 21, 1959, a full six-and-a-half seasons later, that a young
man named Pumpsie Green re-broke the Boston color barrier... thus making
the Red Sox the LAST team to do so.  By then Jackie Robinson had been RETIRED
for nearly three full years.

So I guess what Sam Jethroe represents, to me, is a willingness to break another
significant yet much less well-known barrier.  Jackie Robinson did itfirst,
but by no means did that mean that "the doors" were swung wide openand
all of a sudden everything was equal and fair and good.  It took time,and
Sam was one of the many guys who made it possible to really grow the sport.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:27:12 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: OBC super bowl pool IX

I can still take participants until Tomorrow (Thursday) night.  If you asked
in, you should be listed at http://www.home.comcast.net/seankatie/pool-09.htm
So, check to see that your name is there.  On Thursday night around 9ish (EST)
I will draw the numbers and I will put the final squares up.  That way everyone
can use their printers at work on Friday to print out the page :)
So, email me if you want in, and get those want lists updated!
I was looking through the history and I discovered why Kevin M. was the first
person to email me about the pool... he has won 3 times in 8 years!  I hope
he doesn't get 2-6 or 1-8 this year  :)

=================

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:28:55 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: OPPS :(

the pool url is:

http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-09.htm

silly tilde!

=================

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:42 -0800
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: MIKE DIAMANTI 
Subject: RoadshowWoodling

(Resending this post, as it seemed to get partially cut off.  Mike D.)

Well Gals and Guys:
I am assuming that some of our group caught the very popular PBS show,
Antiques Roadshow, this past Monday.  The show was taped in Dallas back in
I always watch this show, as I'm sure Mark Macrae does (!), so that when I
am pawing through a thrift shop or antique store trying to find 19th century
baseball items, I can more easily identify my retirement "objects" that will
propel me to financial independence.  (So far, returns on my investments are
And periodically, of course, on the show, there are baseball-related items.
Like a bunch of Army information (ledgers and paperwork) from World War I on
guys like Cobb and other HOFers who had served someplace in Georgia.  Or
football -- the sweat stained jersey of Gayle Sayers, I think.
But Monday night, it was the daughter of Gene Woodling who had: 5
team-signed World Series balls from 1949 to 1953, two Yankee World Series
rings and 1 Baltimore World Series rings, contracts, etc. etc.
If you want to torture yourself, here's the link.  Mike Guitierrez from
Heritage Galleries was the spokesman who gave the value at:  $ 85,000.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/200802A21.html

Sheessh...one can dream.  Mike Where-is-the-Treasure?! Diowemontee

=================

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:41:24 -0500
To: uvlist@yahoogroups.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: twice-a-year interuption

I just got word from my connection that the topps series 1 are comming
in very soon.  He has an extra case if I want it.  But I would need at least
6 more boxes ordered before I could get that one.  I'm listing the guys who
are ordering, just so you don't panic and think I missed you :)
If you want a box they are $44 + shipping (usually around $8)  Geeze, I think
they were under $30 when I started doing this!  So, let me know if you
want a box.
Thanks,and get back to the old cardboard...

Sean 2
Sean's friend 2
Walker 2
Bob DiAng 2
John McL 1
Kent 4
EEk 2

=================

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:20:08 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: my fav cards

I was 10 in 1969 and that is the first year I bought tons of cards myself,
and still is my favorite set.  When I win the super bowl pool, I will make
sure everyone gets my '69 upgrade list :)

Around 1987 when I was resurecting my collection I found 2 '69 mantles (later
I found 2 more) and one was destroyed...the other was ok.  I noticed that one
had yellow letters and the other white.  I figured the yellow letters must be
more valuable, because that was the destroyed one :)
Frank Robinson was my guy and this is just a cool shot (see my "topps coolest
cards" web site at http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cooltopps/front.htm)
Also I always loved the mysterious looking Weaver card (black background).
The world series cards from this set are probably the reason I love the WS
cards in general.  They should do cards just like this every year.  This was
my favorite from the set.
Note the "K" and "S" on the back of the Cepeda... I have long since upgraded
this card, but this particular one will always stay in my collection.  The
"K" is
my brother Kevin's mark.
The '71 Munson is just the coolest card ever.  Even though he is a Yankee.
The last 2 cards are from a 2005 set that I created my self.  (Oddly
enough, in the
likeness of the '69 set)  This particular player is the only one on the
team featured
twice in the 18-card set :)
Go OBC!
=================

To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:57:37 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: Auction for Soldiers - reminder

This is a reminder to those who donated and won cards from the auction.

Winners, please send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer.  Checks and Money
Orders should be made payable to Bob Donaldson and send the checks directly
to Bob.  If you pay by Paypal, send to treasurer@oldbaseball.comDonors,please
send the items to the winning bidders.  The addresses can be found on
the OBC directory page.Here is a list of the donors, winners and winningbid
for each lot.

Lot #
Final Bid

1910 Hassan Animal Cards: Cape Hunting Dog, Civet-Cat, Rhino
Spike Glidden
Andy Cook

1912 t207 Krause
Mac Wubben
Brian Lindholme

1933 Goudey lot of 6 (OBC specials!): 14, 26, 30, 33, 34, 36
Spike Glidden
Neal Thomas

1935 Goudey (Coleman et al)
Mac Wubben
Peter Mead

1936 Goudey Bucky Harris
TJ Valacak

1956 topps #173 johnny podres (grey back)
Ant Arbeeny
Richard Dingman

1956 Topps lot of three 82, 144,168
Brian Betza
Aaron Shirley

1960 fleer football 11 card lot  #93,94,96,114,115,117,120,122,125,126,130
Ant Arbeeny
TJ Valacak

1969 Topps #95 Johnny Bench nice image,
Andy Cook
John Stamper

1970 Topps 6 card lot  198 (Mets Celebrate/Ryan) 199 (ALCS-Cuellar) 309(WS-Koosman)346(Schoendienst)
436 (Phillies) 448 (Astros) 696 (Giants)
Brian Betza
Ryan Distelrath

1972 BB semi highs 25 different  (#526-655)
Mike Rich
Aaron Shirley

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Peter Mead

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Peter Mead

1972 Topps Willie Mays #49
Ken Pillion

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Marshall West

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Randy Griffin

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1973-74 lot     1973 Pirates and Red Sox Blue Checklist, 1974 Wash variation
# 387, 1974 Red Checklists Giants*, Tigers**, and Phillies**
John Leroux
John Stamper

1973-74 OPC Hockey 100 different
Mike Rich

1973-74 topps basketball #142 earl monroe
Ant Arbeeny
Randy Griffin

1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete Set
Andy Cook
Larry Tipton

1974 football team checklist starter set with 15 each : lions,patriots,saints,radiers,steelers,oilers,eagles,49ers,cowboys,cards,chargers,bills,browns=
Ant Arbeeny
Ray Luurs

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Marshall West

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1976 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
Rich Niessen

1977 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
Rich Niessen

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1979 Topps lot of 50 with stars - carew ldr, rice ldr, ryan ldr, morgan, winfield,
eck, garvey, stargell, yount, seaver, sutton, bench, mccovey, morris,
carew, yaz, perry, cobb ldr, aaron ldrx2, cobb ldr, brock, young ldr, ryan
ldr, parker, concepcion, pe
Lynn Miller
John Stamper

1981 Donruss Variation Lot 56a Steve Garvey, 87a Larry Hisle 131a Pete Rose306a
Gary =93Mathews=94 319a =93Dwane=94 Kuiper 444a Buck Martinez 444b Buck
Martinez,483a Ivan DeJesus, 490a Dave Roberts, 524a Ray Burris, 532a Geoff
Zahn, 554a Mike Vail, 555a Jerry Ma
Geno Wagner
Kevin Martens

1981 Topps football 25 cards (Shell, Upshaw, and Deirdorf)
John Leroux
Randy Griffin

1984 RGI  Willie Mays Story #22 Autographed in blue
John Leroux
Aaron Shirley

1985 (?) Pete Rose Baseball Card Set #49  Autographed in blue
John Leroux
Aaron Shirley

1988 Detroit Pistons Eastern Conference Champion pin
Andy Cook
Randy Griffin

20 card oddball lot of mostly 1978 TCMA's all Cleveland Indians
John Leroux
Rich Niessen

2002  Talking Chuck Thompson bobble head--speaks three phrases including "ain't
the beer cold!"  Thompson is in the HOF as an announcer and was the voice
of both the Colts and the Orioles.
Peter Mead
Neal Thomas

Scottish Lot: Auto'd 8x10 of Bobby Thomson's "The Shot..." + Official ball marker
from 2005 Open Championship (British) at The Old Course, St Andrews
Glen Codere
Neal Thomas

Baseball funpack: 1988 All Star Pop up Set. all 20 cards, "un-popped, NMT 1991
Sealed set of Classic Draft Picks w/Brien Taylor #1 on the front. Mint 1992
Sealed box, UD All Star Fanfest, Mint 1988 sealed box set, CMC AAA AllStar
Set of minor leaguers, Gregg Jeffries on front, Mint 4 unopened 1987 Topps
wax packs unopened 1988 MLB round playing cards
Bob Bannon
Bill Ashton

1939-46 Salutation Exhibits: Pollet  Dixie Walker Pafko  Mize McCormick Marion
Feller Cavarretta
Bob Bannon
Mark Talbot

1975 OPC #260 Johnny Bench
Rick Lyons
Kevin Martens

1975 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson
Rick Lyons
Aaron Shirley

1935 Diamond Star #38 Chapman
Brock Hattox

1951 Bowman #85 Kazak
Brock Hattox
Gary Mandell

1956 Topps Lot: 224, 54, 34, 23
Brock Hattox
Mike Rumley-Wells

1956 Topps white back #120 Ashburn
Brock Hattox
Ray Luurs

1958 Topps #81 Boros (white team name)
Brock Hattox
Bill Ashton

1959 Topps Lot 277, 381, 400, 402, 424, 444, 494
Brock Hattox
Bill Ashton

1964 Topps coin #131 Mantle, batting left handed
Bob Reed
Mac Wubben

1953 - 1980 All vintage dupes from the team of your choice
Aaron Shirley
Joshua Levine

1973 Topps Football, 90 cards, water damaged, provided by Kurt Tourdot
Ray Luurs
John Leroux

1958 Topps football Blanda, McDonald, Matson
Ray Luurs
Bob Reed

1976 Wonder Bread FB complete set
Andy Cook
Rick Lyons

lot of 2 1939 Playball - #54, 110
Andy Cook

OBC HOM starter lot of 13 - 1960 Terwilliger , 1960 Triandos, 1961 Held, 1966
Pinson, 1967 Santo, 1969 Horton AS, 1970 Lee, 1971 Mauch, 1971 Gamble, 1971
Davalillo, 1971 Belanger, 1971 Knowles, 1974 Buckner
Brian Betza

Total in bids

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To: OBC-Ramblings 
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:58 -0500
From: Joe Isaac 
Subject: RE: Auction for Soldiers - reminder

I should have stated in the message there is no need to email me.  This is just
a friendly reminder to both parties.  Sorry for any confusion. If you receive
the individual emails rather than digested mail from the server, you
will see a huge ad at the top right of the screen.  If this is the case for
you, check out the list of winners at www.angelfire.com/jazz/jwicards/OBC_auction.htmlJoe

From: jwi62@hotmail.comTo: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.comSubject: Auction for
Soldiers - reminderDate: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:57:37 -0500

This is a reminder to those who donated and won cards from the auction.

Winners, please send payment directly to the OBC Treasurer.  Checks and Money
Orders should be made payable to Bob Donaldson and send the checks directly
to Bob.  If you pay by Paypal, send to treasurer@oldbaseball.comDonors,please
send the items to the winning bidders.  The addresses can be found on
the OBC directory page.Here is a list of the donors, winners and winningbid
for each lot.

Lot #
Final Bid

1910 Hassan Animal Cards: Cape Hunting Dog, Civet-Cat, Rhino
Spike Glidden
Andy Cook

1912 t207 Krause
Mac Wubben
Brian Lindholme

1933 Goudey lot of 6 (OBC specials!): 14, 26, 30, 33, 34, 36
Spike Glidden
Neal Thomas

1935 Goudey (Coleman et al)
Mac Wubben
Peter Mead

1936 Goudey Bucky Harris
TJ Valacak

1956 topps #173 johnny podres (grey back)
Ant Arbeeny
Richard Dingman

1956 Topps lot of three 82, 144,168
Brian Betza
Aaron Shirley

1960 fleer football 11 card lot  #93,94,96,114,115,117,120,122,125,126,130
Ant Arbeeny
TJ Valacak

1969 Topps #95 Johnny Bench nice image,
Andy Cook
John Stamper

1970 Topps 6 card lot  198 (Mets Celebrate/Ryan) 199 (ALCS-Cuellar) 309(WS-Koosman)346(Schoendienst)
436 (Phillies) 448 (Astros) 696 (Giants)
Brian Betza
Ryan Distelrath

1972 BB semi highs 25 different  (#526-655)
Mike Rich
Aaron Shirley

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Peter Mead

1972 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Peter Mead

1972 Topps Willie Mays #49
Ken Pillion

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Marshall West

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Randy Griffin

1973 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1973-74 lot     1973 Pirates and Red Sox Blue Checklist, 1974 Wash variation
# 387, 1974 Red Checklists Giants*, Tigers**, and Phillies**
John Leroux
John Stamper

1973-74 OPC Hockey 100 different
Mike Rich

1973-74 topps basketball #142 earl monroe
Ant Arbeeny
Randy Griffin

1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball Complete Set
Andy Cook
Larry Tipton

1974 football team checklist starter set with 15 each : lions,patriots,saints,radiers,steelers,oilers,eagles,49ers,cowboys,cards,chargers,bills,browns=
Ant Arbeeny
Ray Luurs

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Marshall West

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1974 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
Jim Beauchemin

1976 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
Rich Niessen

1977 Dairy Isle discs 50 different (approx.)
Mike Rich
Rich Niessen

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1978 lot 50 different
Lynn Miller
TJ Valacak

1979 Topps lot of 50 with stars - carew ldr, rice ldr, ryan ldr, morgan, winfield,
eck, garvey, stargell, yount, seaver, sutton, bench, mccovey, morris,
carew, yaz, perry, cobb ldr, aaron ldrx2, cobb ldr, brock, young ldr, ryan
ldr, parker, concepcion, pe
Lynn Miller
John Stamper

1981 Donruss Variation Lot 56a Steve Garvey, 87a Larry Hisle 131a Pete Rose306a
Gary =93Mathews=94 319a =93Dwane=94 Kuiper 444a Buck Martinez 444b Buck
Martinez,483a Ivan DeJesus, 490a Dave Roberts, 524a Ray Burris, 532a Geoff
Zahn, 554a Mike Vail, 555a Jerry Ma
Geno Wagner
Kevin Martens

1981 Topps football 25 cards (Shell, Upshaw, and Deirdorf)
John Leroux
Randy Griffin

1984 RGI  Willie Mays Story #22 Autographed in blue
John Leroux
Aaron Shirley

1985 (?) Pete Rose Baseball Card Set #49  Autographed in blue
John Leroux
Aaron Shirley

1988 Detroit Pistons Eastern Conference Champion pin
Andy Cook
Randy Griffin

20 card oddball lot of mostly 1978 TCMA's all Cleveland Indians
John Leroux
Rich Niessen

2002  Talking Chuck Thompson bobble head--speaks three phrases including "ain't
the beer cold!"  Thompson is in the HOF as an announcer and was the voice
of both the Colts and the Orioles.
Peter Mead
Neal Thomas

Scottish Lot: Auto'd 8x10 of Bobby Thomson's "The Shot..." + Official ball marker
from 2005 Open Championship (British) at The Old Course, St Andrews
Glen Codere
Neal Thomas

Baseball funpack: 1988 All Star Pop up Set. all 20 cards, "un-popped, NMT 1991
Sealed set of Classic Draft Picks w/Brien Taylor #1 on the front. Mint 1992
Sealed box, UD All Star Fanfest, Mint 1988 sealed box set, CMC AAA AllStar
Set of minor leaguers, Gregg Jeffries on front, Mint 4 unopened 1987 Topps
wax packs unopened 1988 MLB round playing cards
Bob Bannon
Bill Ashton

1939-46 Salutation Exhibits: Pollet  Dixie Walker Pafko  Mize McCormick Marion
Feller Cavarretta
Bob Bannon
Mark Talbot

1975 OPC #260 Johnny Bench
Rick Lyons
Kevin Martens

1975 OPC #300 Reggie Jackson
Rick Lyons
Aaron Shirley

1935 Diamond Star #38 Chapman
Brock Hattox

1951 Bowman #85 Kazak
Brock Hattox
Gary Mandell

1956 Topps Lot: 224, 54, 34, 23
Brock Hattox
Mike Rumley-Wells

1956 Topps white back #120 Ashburn
Brock Hattox
Ray Luurs

1958 Topps #81 Boros (white team name)
Brock Hattox
Bill Ashton

1959 Topps Lot 277, 381, 400, 402, 424, 444, 494
Brock Hattox
Bill Ashton

1964 Topps coin #131 Mantle, batting left handed
Bob Reed
Mac Wubben

1953 - 1980 All vintage dupes from the team of your choice
Aaron Shirley
Joshua Levine

1973 Topps Football, 90 cards, water damaged, provided by Kurt Tourdot
Ray Luurs
John Leroux

1958 Topps football Blanda, McDonald, Matson
Ray Luurs
Bob Reed

1976 Wonder Bread FB complete set
Andy Cook
Rick Lyons

lot of 2 1939 Playball - #54, 110
Andy Cook

OBC HOM starter lot of 13 - 1960 Terwilliger , 1960 Triandos, 1961 Held, 1966
Pinson, 1967 Santo, 1969 Horton AS, 1970 Lee, 1971 Mauch, 1971 Gamble, 1971
Davalillo, 1971 Belanger, 1971 Knowles, 1974 Buckner
Brian Betza

Total in bids

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To: 
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:09:56 -0500
From: Mac Wubben 
Subject: 54 B Mantle

Ok, probably overpaid a bit...but not everyday you see the 54 Burnt Mantle.Nice
to cross it off of the list too.

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:37:21 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: John Stamper 
Subject: Favorite Cards

What a great topic!!! Thanks Rob.

So many more that I will have to compile a year list like Sean did.

1970 # 660 Johnny Bench. The first year that I started collecting cards, I was
7 years old. I only had a few cards from the first couple of series. The
money must have been coming in over the summer from mowing lawns and collecting
bottlesbecause I had all the last couple series, including the Johnny
Bench # 660. I actually had a few of these and my younger brother wanted
one. These were cherished cards and I kept them for myself. One night while
looking at my 70 set he saw one of my Bench cards and took it. I asked for
it back (the way a 7 year old would ask his younger brother) and he crumpled
it up in a ball. I still have that card to this day.

1973 # 50 Roberto Clemente. I was9 when Clemente passed away and I was devastated.
When the 73 cards came out I looked frantically for a Clemente. I
kept that card with me all summer. Still have it and it is actually pictured
on my 73 want list.

1952 Topps # 1-130. My dad collected these as a kid and in 1975 when I was 12,
he saw how good I was taking care of my cards thatone night he said that
he had something for me, his cards. He had saved them all these years and
now he was giving them to me. What a moment.

1966 # 215 Clemente/Aaron/Mays League Leaders. The only card with all threegreats

1962 # 18 Mantle/Mays. The the twopictured are great, however what aboutthe
background. Hank Aaron, Elston Howard andJohn Roseboro are behind
Mantle and Mays. Clearly atthe 1961All-Star game.

1958 # 30 Hank Aaron. A beautiful card with Hank set on a deep Green background.
Hank looks young and confident.

1964 # 423 Willie Mays/Hank Aaron. Beautiful card of two of the greatest. You
can only imagine what the two are saying...

1972 # 226 WS Roberto Clemente action shot, taking a leadandyou know he'll
score. Feels like you are right there.

1974 Big Red Machine...'Nuff Said! 1974 was the first year I completed aset
and completed each through 77. (Not one card in 1978)

1976 # 300 Johnny Bench. Mean looking action card. No one is scoring on Bench.
Love that Dust!

1953 Look 'N See # 81 Sir Walter Raleigh. My Daughter's name is Raleigh. This
was the first "Raleigh" card that I collected after her birth and the first
Look 'N See card I owned. I am now only two away from the complete set.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:39:09 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: 1962 Ford Tigers Postcards

Does anyone else (most likely FOOT guys) out there have the 1962 Ford Tigers postcards on their list?

The reason I ask is that I've just watched one of the rarer cards in the set - Dick Brown - go on ebay for an astounding $392!! I've been after these cards for many, many years now and its the first time I've seen this particular card come up for sale. I was going to stick in a bid myself - about $90. What a waste of time that would have been!!!

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:57:10 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC Ramblings 
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: 1962 Ford Tigers Postcards

Does anyone else (most likely FOOT guys) out there have the 1962 Ford Tigers postcards on their list?

The reason I ask is that I've just watched one of the rarer cards in the set - Dick Brown - go on ebay for an astounding $392!! I've been after these cards for many, many years now and its the first time I've seen this particular card come up for sale. I was going to stick in a bid myself - about $90. What a waste of time that would have been!!!

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:57:06 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: one of John Stamper's favorite cards

John said:
1964 # 423 Willie Mays/Hank Aaron. Beautiful card of two of the
greatest. You can only imagine what the two are saying...

I bet Willie is singing "Willie, Mickey and the Duke" and asking Hank
why his name isn't in it.  And telling him that all 3 of those guys
had reached 400 HR in 1962/63.

And Hank is thinking, "Wait until 1972 when I finally pass you for
good on the HR list."

Or maybe not.

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To: , "Mac Wubben" 
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:18:54 -0500
From: obcjohn@knology.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 54 B Mantle

I'll take that one and all the other Mantles I need in the same shape.

On Wed 01/28/09 10:09 PM , Mac Wubben obcmac@hotmail.com sent:
> Ok, probably overpaid a bit...but not everyday you see the 54 Burnt
> Mantle.  Nice to cross it off of the list too.
> Mac
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:29:50 -0600 (CST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: hoot_owl1@verizon.net
Subject: a great trivia question




    My kids gave me a Yankee calendar for Xmas this year.  Today's fact or trivia question is great. If I can hit your lists, the first person to answer correctly will receive a card.  
    

    Who were the future Hall of Famers who surrendered home runs to Babe Ruth during his 60-homer season of 1927?
    

    Peter Mead
    

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:54:36 EST
To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

I know for a fact that Lefty Grove was one....and I think that Ted Lyons  was
the second but this is just a guess...

Joshua "Mr. Trivia" Levine

In a message dated 1/29/2009 8:32:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
hoot_owl1@verizon.net writes:

My kids gave me a Yankee calendar for Xmas this year.  Today's  fact or
trivia question is great. If I can hit your lists, the first person to  answer
correctly will receive a card.

Who were the future Hall of Famers who surrendered home runs to Babe Ruth
during his 60-homer season of 1927?

Peter Mead

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:28:18 EST
To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net, Wite3@aol.com
From: smartalecx@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

jesse orasco?

In a message dated 1/29/2009 11:23:55 A.M. Central Standard Time,
hoot_owl1@verizon.net writes:

Two of the three.  Close...

Jan 29, 2009 10:55:26 AM, _Wite3@aol.com_ (mailto:Wite3@aol.com)  wrote:

I know for a fact that Lefty Grove was one....and I think that Ted  Lyons was
the second but this is just a guess...

Joshua "Mr. Trivia" Levine

In a message dated 1/29/2009 8:32:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
_hoot_owl1@verizon.hoo_ (mailto:hoot_owl1@verizon.net)  writes:

My kids gave me a Yankee calendar for Xmas this year.   Today's fact or
trivia question is great. If I can hit your lists, the  first person to answer
correctly will receive a card.

Who were the future Hall of Famers who surrendered home runs to Babe  Ruth
during his 60-homer season of 1927?

Peter Mead

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:35:32 EST
To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

I just remembered...it is not all Baseball HOF...So Grove and Lyons but the
easy one is Ernie Nevers who was a pro HOFer in football....

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:47:42 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: d'oh!

It must have been outside the BB HOF.  I was just "rounding that
corner" mentally myself.  I have to admit I cheated to get that far, I
had to look up a list of all his HR that year.  So here's what I
knew... These people surrendered Ruthian HR in 1927:
Garland Buckeye (2)
Ted Blankenship
Harry Collins
Sarge Connally
Howard Ehmke (2)
Lefty Grove
Milt Gaston (4)
Sam Gibson
Don Hankins
Ken Holloway (3)
Paul Hopkins
Slim Harriss (3)
Willis Hudlin
Benn Karr
Hod Lisenbee (2)
Ted Lyons
Danny MacFayden (2)
Jake Miller
Ernie Nevers (2)
Jack Quinn (2)
Jack Russell
George Smith
Joe Shaute (3)
Walter Stewart
Hollis Thurston (3)
Tommy Thomas (3)
George Uhle
Earl Whitehill
Ernie Wingard
Hal Wiltse (2)
Rube Walberg (4)
Tony Welzer (3)
Tom Zachary (3)

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:49:41 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: outsmarted by Mr, Trivia.

Good job Joshua.
BTW, your Phillies are Phlying their way across the US today.

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To: , , 
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:54:14 -0600
From: "Fr. Patrick Wattigny" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

Hello all,
Ted Lyons surrendered homer #54 on September 18, 1927, and Lefty Grove gave
up #57 on September 27, 1927.  In addition, Ernie Nevers did give up two
to the Babe, #8 on May 14th, and #41 on August 27th.  My source is The Babe
Ruth Story, ca. 1948, written by Bob Considine.  BTW, I got this book ata
seminary book sale for a quarter about 20 years ago.

Father Pat

To: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:54:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

I know for a fact that Lefty Grove was one....and I think that Ted Lyons
was the second but this is just a guess...

Joshua "Mr. Trivia" Levine

In a message dated 1/29/2009 8:32:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
hoot_owl1@verizon.net writes:

My kids gave me a Yankee calendar for Xmas this year.  Today's
fact or trivia question is great. If I can hit your lists, the first person
answer correctly will receive a card.

Who were the future Hall of Famers who surrendered home runs to Babe Ruth
during his 60-homer season of 1927?

Peter Mead

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above.  See yours in just 2 easy steps!

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:56:39 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikerw7" 
Subject: Annalise and SCD

Hi, all.  I'm coming up on my one-year anniversary in OBC (about 6
weeks away, I think).  I mention this because when a few days after I
joined, my daughter Annalise was in the hospital and I'm writing this
from Children's in Seattle.  I'm grateful that we have not had any
hospital time in between.  We've been here since Tuesday.  She was
supposed to have a fifteen-minute surgical procedure yesterday that
turned into a 2-hour surgery and an overnight.  I think we're getting
out today.
She's been sick for about 6 weeks and we've not yet been able to
diagnose her.  So I'm hopeful that the tests here will give us an
answer.  Children's Hospital (for those of you who have not had the
pleasure) is an amazing place--your child gets the best medical care
available and you get perspective on how much worse things can be.  I
would very much appreciate all thoughts and prayers for Annalise
(whatever your proclivity in this area).  We'd REALLY like an answer
about what's hurting her.

Yesterday morning, between tests and surgery, we had time for a brief
visit to Barnes and Noble (Annalise's choice!) and for the first time
I got to thumb through an SCD.  I know, I know, how green can a guy
get?  But I have to say, it was everything I've heard from you guys
and a whole bunch more.  Maybe too much more.  I found an '08 version
online and bought it (hospital stays involve hours and hours of
waiting for tests and procedures and...more waiting) for like
$6-something including shipping (Ken Pillion tip--thanks, Ken!).  But
I finally understand where you blokes are getting some of this
ridiculously detailed info.  Now when people announce they've
completed pre-war sets, I'll actually be able to appreciate their
monumental achievements.  And yes, I'm a little concerned it will
tempt me to start more sets.  But believe me, there are worse things
in the world than that.

Peace to all of you, and thanks,

Mike Rumley-Wells

=================

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:05:56 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jd3681" 
Subject: Re: Annalise and SCD

--- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "mikerw7"  wrote:
Mike, as I sit here enjoying a second day with my 16 month old
grandson I just wanted to say that my thoughts are with you and your
daughter in her journey.

as for the SCD, I have heard of these but what is Ken
Pillion's "tip"? I would love to get one and any tip on getting a
better price is appreciate.

> Hi, all.  I'm coming up on my one-year anniversary in OBC (about 6
> weeks away, I think).  I mention this because when a few days after
> joined, my daughter Annalise was in the hospital and I'm writing
> from Children's in Seattle.  I'm grateful that we have not had any
> hospital time in between.  We've been here since Tuesday.  She was
> supposed to have a fifteen-minute surgical procedure yesterday that
> turned into a 2-hour surgery and an overnight.  I think we're
> out today.
> She's been sick for about 6 weeks and we've not yet been able to
> diagnose her.  So I'm hopeful that the tests here will give us an
> answer.  Children's Hospital (for those of you who have not had the
> pleasure) is an amazing place--your child gets the best medical care
> available and you get perspective on how much worse things can be.
> would very much appreciate all thoughts and prayers for Annalise
> (whatever your proclivity in this area).  We'd REALLY like an answer
> about what's hurting her.
> Yesterday morning, between tests and surgery, we had time for a
> visit to Barnes and Noble (Annalise's choice!) and for the first
> I got to thumb through an SCD.  I know, I know, how green can a guy
> get?  But I have to say, it was everything I've heard from you guys
> and a whole bunch more.  Maybe too much more.  I found an '08
> online and bought it (hospital stays involve hours and hours of
> waiting for tests and procedures and...more waiting) for like
> $6-something including shipping (Ken Pillion tip--thanks, Ken!).
> I finally understand where you blokes are getting some of this
> ridiculously detailed info.  Now when people announce they've
> completed pre-war sets, I'll actually be able to appreciate their
> monumental achievements.  And yes, I'm a little concerned it will
> tempt me to start more sets.  But believe me, there are worse things
> in the world than that.
> Peace to all of you, and thanks,
> Mike Rumley-Wells

=================

To: Peter Mead , 
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:21:29 -0500
From: Bob Reed 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

Well then, you can add Howard Ehmke to the list as well.  He is a proud member
of the Chautauqua County Sports Hall of Fame.

http://www.chautauquasportshalloffame.org/howardehmke.php

To: Wite3@aol.comCC: hoot_owl1@verizon.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom:
hoot_owl1@verizon.netDate: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:47:53 -0600Subject: Re: Re:
[OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question

And, of course, Mr. Trivia is correct.  The catch phrase was Hall of Famerswith
no specifics on which hall of fame.

Any chance you need any 62 Post Canadian Phillies?  Didn't see the list on your
Phillie page and am assuming you have gathered all of them, but I haveto

PeterJan 29, 2009 11:35:47 AM, Wite3@aol.com wrote:

I just remembered...it is not all Baseball HOF...So Grove and Lyons but theeasy
one is Ernie Nevers who was a pro HOFer in football....

In a message dated 1/29/2009 9:23:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, hoot_owl1@verizon.net

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:37:54 EST
To: seventytwop@hotmail.com, Wite3@aol.com, hoot_owl1@verizon.net,
From: LUURSCJG@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia question
Content-Language: en

Now there is two words you might ever see in a sentence again babe ruth
story and Seminary book sale

In a message dated 1/29/2009 11:54:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,
seventytwop@hotmail.com writes:

Hello all,
Ted Lyons surrendered homer #54 on September 18,  1927, and Lefty Grove gave
up #57 on September 27, 1927.  In addition,  Ernie Nevers did give up two to
the Babe, #8 on May 14th, and #41 on August  27th.  My source is The Babe Ruth
Story, ca. 1948, written by Bob  Considine.  BTW, I got this book at a
seminary book sale for a quarter  about 20 years ago.

Father Pat

To: hoot_owl1@verizon. To: hoot_owl1@veriz To: hoot
From: Wite3@aol.com
Date: Thu,  29 Jan 2009 11:54:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] a great trivia  question

I know for a fact that Lefty Grove was one....and I think that Ted Lyons  was
the second but this is just a guess...

Joshua "Mr. Trivia" Levine

In a message dated 1/29/2009 8:32:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
hoot_owl1@verizon.In a messag

My kids gave me a Yankee calendar for Xmas this year.  Today's  fact or
trivia question is great. If I can hit your lists, the first person  to answer
correctly will receive a card.

Who were the future Hall of Famers who surrendered home runs to Babe  Ruth
during his 60-homer season of 1927?

Peter Mead

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:23:00 -0500
To: Joe Isaac ,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: RE:  '55 bowman funny

Stan Hack!  :)

At 09:24 PM 1/28/2009, Joe Isaac wrote:
>Hi Sean,
>I don't collect the Bowmans.  Can you share with me Bill Klauss' childhood
>hero?  I am anxiously waiting.  Thanks,
>Windows Live=99 Hotmail=AE:=85more than just e-mail. Check it out.

=================

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:37:04 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "uthminsta1" 
Subject: T206 question

Hey, I know that T206 cards were made from 1909-1911.  But is there a
way to distinguish which year certain cards were released?  Does it
have to do with the back saying "150" or "350 subjects" or something?
Were there certain players added to the set in the latter years?
Just looking at my only T206 and wondering...

=================

To: ,
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:51:43 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T206 question

http://www.t206.org/dl/InsideT206.pdf

This is a very descriptive, thorough writing by a T206 hobbyist...most everything
about T206s can be found here.

OBC Forever

----- Original Message -----
From: uthminsta1
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T206 question

Hey, I know that T206 cards were made from 1909-1911. But is there a
way to distinguish which year certain cards were released? Does it
have to do with the back saying "150" or "350 subjects" or something?
Were there certain players added to the set in the latter years?
Just looking at my only T206 and wondering...

=================

To: ,
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:00:26 -0700
From: "Walker" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] twice-a-year interuption

I'm hoping my PayPal payment is EZ cash for collection or for other eBay / PayPal
payments.  There should NOT be any fee's, and if there are, or if I need
more to cover shipping, just let me know, and I will correct.

Thanks again, Sean!!! !!!!!! !!!

Let me know if you want to swap any of these, and or if you want any of the"chase"
cards, because I'm sure I'm not going to be interested in anythingmore
than the base set.

Thanks again, Sean,

----- Original Message -----
From: Sean McGowan
To: uvlist@yahoogroups.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:41 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] twice-a-year interuption

I just got word from my connection that the topps series 1 are comming
in very soon. He has an extra case if I want it. But I would need at least
6 more boxes ordered before I could get that one. I'm listing the guys who
are ordering, just so you don't panic and think I missed you :)
If you want a box they are $44 + shipping (usually around $8) Geeze, I think
they were under $30 when I started doing this! So, let me know if you
want a box.
Thanks,and get back to the old cardboard...

Sean 2
Sean's friend 2
Walker 2
Bob DiAng 2
John McL 1
Kent 4
EEk 2

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:47:58 -0500
From: Larry Tipton 
Subject: Paperback Book Available

(Coming of age with the New York Yankees)

Matt McGough was a batboy with the NY Yankees during the 1992 and 1993
seasons. This is his story.

Email me and I'l send it your way. It was a good read!

=================

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:34:58 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: Super Bowl Pool

Sorry for the delay guys... I completely forgot about it last night :(
The pool is ready now.  Good luck!
I will post the winners right at the end of each quarter.
Go OBC

=================

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:41:26 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: OBC SBPool URL

Enough initials? :)

http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool-09.htm

good luck!

=================

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:47:44 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Glenn Codere 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SBPool URL

Are "sustitute winners" similar to "destitute winners"? (Now THERE'S a contradiction in terms!)

From: Sean McGowan 
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:41:26 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC SBPool URL

Enough initials? :)

http://home. comcast.net/ ~seankatie/ pool-09.htm

good luck!

=================

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:13:29 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: another SB emai. ... sorry :(

Comcast is having a problem...  It says 12am-6am maintanence is
going on???

I put a copy of the pool here...

http://ce.uml.edu/~smcgowan/pool-09.htm

just in case the problem persists.

=================

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:24:42 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: Red Sox  Game April 17

Hey gang,
My sister and brother in law will be taking my niece and nephew out to
Boston April 14-18.  My niece is a high school junior and has her heart
set on going to school out in Boston.  (I did a great job making sure
she was a Red Sox fan from day 1. Now my sister is ready to kill me
because she wants to go to college out there) The Sox are at home
Friday the 17th.  I am wondering if anyone in OBC land has four tickets
or even just a pair of tickets for that game.  If so, or if you know
someone who has a pair or two pairs that they don't want to use on a
cold and frigid night in Boston, please let me know.