================= To: "dugout thanks" , Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 12:28:32 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1961 -63 post needs Hello All, I am sending this out to alot of people. Hope it works.... I have the following dupes: 1961 post #15(shantz),79,88,124,120,167(snider) 1962 post #6b(maris with ad),21,27,34,39,42,48,66,67,69 sp80,85(killebrew),89,93,94,100,103(sp),105,117,120,121,125 1962 post candian #136(cepeda) Chances are slim that I have some you need but if interested in other dupesplease feel free to let me know anthony arbeeny 1961 post 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33,35,37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 47, 49, 50,53,58, 59, 60,62, 63,65, 66,68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 110,113,115, 116, 117, 118,121, 122, 125, 126, 128, 129,130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 144, 146,147, 148, 152,156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 162, 164, 165, 168, 171, 172, 174,176, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183,185, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195 1963 post 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31,33,35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 45, 47, 49, 50, 51, 52, 56, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 73, 75, 76, 78, 79, 80, 81, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 94, 96, 97, 99, 100, 101, 102, 104, 105, 107, 108, 109, 110, 112, 113, 114, 116, 118, 119, 122, 123,125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140,142, 143, 144, 147, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 159, 160, 162, 164, 165, 166,168, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180,181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 189, 191, 192,194, 195, 196, 197, 199, 200, ================= To: "vct" , Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:47:55 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1961-63 post update Here is any updated list: Hello All, I am sending this out to alot of people. Hope it works.... I have the following dupes: 1961 post #15(shantz),56,79,88,89,100,120,124,167(snider) 1962 post #21,27,39,42,48,66,67,80,85(killebrew),89,93,94,100,103(sp),105,117,120,121,135,142(mays),146,150,160,,173(clemente Chances are slim that I have some you need but if interested in other dupesfrom other sets I have please feel free to let me know anthony arbeeny Needs not posted yet on my site 1961 post 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33,35,37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 47, 49, 50,53,58, 59, 60,62, 63,65, 66,68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108, 109, 110,113,115, 116, 117, 118,121, 122, 125, 126, 128, 129,130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 144, 146,147, 148, 152,156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 162, 164, 165, 168, 171, 172, 174,176, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183,185, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195 1963 post 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31,33,35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 41, 42, 45, 47, 49, 50, 51, 52, 56, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 73, 75, 76, 78, 79, 80, 81, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 94, 96, 97, 99, 100, 101, 102, 104, 105, 107, 108, 109, 110, 112, 113, 114, 116, 118, 119, 122, 123,125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 132, 133, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140,142, 143, 144, 147, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 159, 160, 162, 164, 165, 166,168, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180,181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 189, 191, 192,194, 195, 196, 197, 199, 200 ================= Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:21:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: A 55 story, and some availables. Hey gang, I stopped by a small show today. A local dealer lets me know when he has some cards for my lists. I certainly did not expect to go home with a few of the premier rookie cards from the 55 set. Although I am still in need of the Clemente card, Killebrew and Koufax have been crossed from the wantlist. The Killebrew is in better condition than the Koufax, with the Koufax having a slight tear, and a few spots of glue on the back. naturally, both have a few creases. I brought the pair home for 43 bucks. I was very pleased with the purchase. I also picked up a few items for availability. ONe is a 25 card Minnesota Twins set. The cards are sized similar to 52-56 cards. The set is more of an all-time greats for the Twins. Some of the names include Killebrew, Martin, Oliva, and Calvin Griffith. I cannot locate the set in my 2006 standard catalog, but the guy at the show told me it was from 1977. If anyone is a big Twins fan, or would like the set, I will gladly send it along. I also have a 69 Deckle of Willie Mays. It is pretty beat up, but again, if someone wants it, I will send it. Happy Sunday! ================= Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:23:37 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Delia children are neighborhood heroes We've had a bit of a serious incident at home on Friday. I was on vacation, and had stepped out to watch a matinée movie of National Treasure Part 2. My kids came home from school, and a classmate of Lisa's named Weston Demmel, who lives in the neighborhood, came over to visit. He's been hyperactive, troubled, and quite the daredevil all his life. I had completely dismantled an old wooden swing set no longer in use, and left a small wooden lattice piece leaning next to a lolly-column holding up a support beam for the back porch. It appeared to Weston to be a ladder which he wanted to climb, but Lisa warned him not to try it. He climbed it anyway, grabbed onto the support beam as if he was doing a chin-up, and somehow managed to get his head stuck in the 8" clearance between the support beam and the back porch floor, near the joists. The wooden lattice collapsed. His head became stuck, his arms went limp, and he was unable to breathe. Lisa screamed for Joe, who came out and tried to get Weston loose. Unable to do that, Joe used his cell phone to call 911, and they both held Weston up to relieve pressure on his neck. The paramedics arrived just a few minutes later, and Weston had flat-lined. They applied CPR for about three or four minutes, which revived him. He was taken to St. Francis Hospital in Poughkeepsie but had to be airlifted to Westchester Medical Center which had the proper pediatric care unit. He's still unable to breathe on his own due to lung trauma from suffocation and/or the CPR, and has some very minor abnormalities on the brain stem, but he's expected to make a full recovery and is expected to be released tomorrow or Tuesday. I arrived home just as the paramedics were leaving. The state troopers investigating the accident said that if not for Joe and Lisa's actions, Weston would be dead. I just heard from his father, and he's making remarkable progress. Here's the link to the Poughkeepsie Journal story in Sunday's paper - the "15-year-old brother" and the "13-year-old girl" are Joe and Lisa. http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080531/NEWS01/80531011 Needless to say, we're all a little rattled around here, but the kids are holding up fine. Dad, as usual, is a basket case. Wayne Delia, IBM Master Inventor, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "To do what ought to be done, but would not be done if I did not do it, I thought to be my duty." (Robert Morrison, 1849) ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:15:31 -0700 (PDT) To: Tigers List , From: Glenn Codere Subject: Paul McCartney & (Red) Wings I caught the last 45 minutes of Paul McCartney's concert at Liverpool's Anfield Stadium on Sunday evening, celebrating the city's commemoration as this year's European City Of Culture. Paul blazed his way through a great selection of his own material and numerous Beatles numbers.......and looked to be having a great time in front of his home town fans. As he came back on stage for an encore, he slipped on an acoustic guitar to do "Yesterday". Prominently slapped on the body of the guitar was a sticker of the familiar old wheel and wing. Is Paul a closet Red Wings fan?? I've always been a McCartney fan - right back to the 60s - but if he's showing support for the Red Wings he's taken yet another step up in my estimation!! Now if only we could educate him a little further. "Paul, let me tell you about this Ordonez felllow...." ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 03:21:47 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: 1968/69 Sherriff coins (hockey) Can anyone tell me who coin #13 is (it'll be a Red Wing)? I'm bidding for a few of these with a view towards adding them to my wantlist. I'm led to believe that coins #1 to 16 are Red Wings. I've tracked them all down except #13. ================= Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:43:41 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "b_betza" Subject: New job//moving Hey OBC'ers, I just got word Friday that I'll be starting a new job in Harrisburg, PA in one week. Of course that one week will consist of 22 hours a day working on our house so we can sell it quickly!! My collection will probably be boxed up in the next week or 2-- the realtor doesn't think a card room should be filled with boxes and binders--- guess she's not going to be joining OBC anytime soon!! I'm going to keep my dups handy so I can still enjoy myself but I may be a little less active--- While I know the next couple months are going to be filled with challenges they've got to be better than the last 2 months spent looking for a job!! Brian Betza ================= Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:59:12 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: New applicants to OBC Hi everyone, We currently have 3 applicants to join OBC. While the AC will be the ones deciding yes or no on each, the esteemed gentlemen of the AC also need your comments. Please take a moment to view the applications on the OBC home page by: 1) going to the home page (tricky) 2) clicking on "Directory" 3) clicking on "View New OBC Applications" 4) Clicking on your own name in the drop down menu (trickier), then entering your password (trickiest). 5) You can now view the applications for Larry Moe, Jeff Whitworth, and Gord Ellis. If you have comments on any or all of them, please post those - it'll help in the decison-making process. Your "New Member Guy" ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 03:48:01 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Buying on ebay I've been going through a bit of a purple patch recently regarding auction wins. Does anyone else out there in OBCLand feel that there are bargains galore to be had on ebay at the moment? I'm finding that I'm picking up cards that have been on my lists for years for a fraction of the price that I would expect to pay. Of course, from my point of view it helps that the current UK-US exchange rate is VERY advantageous at present (it sucks if you guys are coming in this direction, but at the moment its working out great for me!). Foe example, over the last couple months, I've knocked off 13 of the remaining 22 cards from my 1960 birthyear set (Snider, Aaron, Musial, Drysdale, Spahn, MonbouquetteHi#, TDavisHi#, BanksAS, MathewsAS, FoxAS, PierceAS, AntonelliAS and CunninghamAS), for an average price of less than $6 a pop, with the Aaron the most expensive single item at $13. Other big wins have included the last two 1951B Tigers that I needed (Johnson & Bearden hi#s) for $3.26 each, a 65/66T Hockey Delvecchio for $3.26, some 1966 hi#s for $3, a 49B Tiger (Wakefield) for 99c....I could go on and on (and often do). Does there seem to be a downturn in the market over there just now? Are you seeing cards at shows at lower prices than in recent years? Or have I just been lucky in finding what I consider to be some terrific bargains recently? ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 03:53:06 -0700 (PDT) To: Glenn Codere , From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay Glenn -- The prices for T202s is definitely coming down. VG cards were going for about $100 a year ago and get half of that now. I don't know about other sets, but I'll agree with your overall assessment... Take Care, --- Glenn Codere wrote: > Guys, >   > I've been going through a bit of a purple patch > recently regarding auction wins. Does anyone else > out there in OBCLand feel that there are bargains > galore to be had on ebay at the moment? >   > I'm finding that I'm picking up cards that have been > on my lists for years for a fraction of the price > that I would expect to pay. Of course, from my point > of view it helps that the current UK-US exchange > rate is VERY advantageous at present (it sucks > if you guys are coming in this direction, but at the > moment its working out great for me!). >   > Foe example, over the last couple months, I've > knocked off 13 of the remaining 22 cards from my > 1960 birthyear set (Snider, Aaron, Musial, Drysdale, > Spahn, MonbouquetteHi#, TDavisHi#, BanksAS, > MathewsAS, FoxAS, PierceAS, AntonelliAS and > CunninghamAS), for an average price of less than $6 > a pop, with the Aaron the most expensive single item > at $13. Other big wins have included the last two > 1951B Tigers that I needed (Johnson & Bearden > hi#s) for $3.26 each, a 65/66T > Hockey Delvecchio for $3.26, some 1966 hi#s for > $3, a 49B Tiger (Wakefield) for 99c....I could go on > and on (and often do). >   > Does there seem to be a downturn in the market over > there just now? Are you seeing cards at shows at > lower prices than in recent years? Or have I just > been lucky in finding what I consider to be some > terrific bargains recently? >   > Glenn ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 05:15:14 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay Hey Glenn, I've definitely picked up a bunch recently at reasonable prices. Heck, I got the penultimate 1952 low number on my list for $1.50 last week. Beyond actual bargains, I've just seen more cards that I want recently, as apparently people are freeing up inventory that's normally hard to get. ----- Original Message ---- From: Glenn Codere To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 6:48:01 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I've been going through a bit of a purple patch recently regarding auction wins. Does anyone else out there in OBCLand feel that there are bargains galore to be had on ebay at the moment? I'm finding that I'm picking up cards that have been on my lists for years for a fraction of the price that I would expect to pay. Of course, from my point of view it helps that the current UK-US exchange rate is VERY advantageous at present (it sucks if you guys are coming in this direction, but at the moment its working out great for me!). Foe example, over the last couple months, I've knocked off 13 of the remaining 22 cards from my 1960 birthyear set (Snider, Aaron, Musial, Drysdale, Spahn, MonbouquetteHi#, TDavisHi#, BanksAS, MathewsAS, FoxAS, PierceAS, AntonelliAS and CunninghamAS), for an average price of less than $6 a pop, with the Aaron the most expensive single item at $13. Other big wins have included the last two 1951B Tigers that I needed (Johnson & Bearden hi#s) for $3.26 each, a 65/66T Hockey Delvecchio for $3.26, some 1966 hi#s for $3, a 49B Tiger (Wakefield) for 99c....I could go on and on (and often do). Does there seem to be a downturn in the market over there just now? Are you seeing cards at shows at lower prices than in recent years? Or have I just been lucky in finding what I consider to be some terrific bargains recently? ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:02:08 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I would definitely agree that there seems to be a lot more inventory available lately. There's probably also an element of me improving my search "techniques". I'm now setting up "saved searches" to help notify me of key items, and I'm also far less specific in my search criteria than ever before. I'll only enter as much search info as necessary to return a reasonable number of "hits" and I'll use "wild cards" to help allow for mis-spelled items (for example, 1960 Yas* for a 1960 Yastrzemski RC). Finally, I always search from ebay's root directory, so that I also hit on mis-placed items. Finally, I find myself scouring the Buy It Now items in ebay Stores a lot more than I ever used to. There are bargains to be had there if you're persistant! --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Matthew <obc_spike@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Matthew <obc_spike@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay To: "OBC Ramblings" <OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 1:15 PM Hey Glenn, I've definitely picked up a bunch recently at reasonable prices. Heck, I got the penultimate 1952 low number on my list for $1.50 last week. Beyond actual bargains, I've just seen more cards that I want recently, as apparently people are freeing up inventory that's normally hard to get. ----- Original Message ---- From: Glenn Codere <glenncodere@ yahoo.com> To: OBC Ramblings <OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 6:48:01 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I've been going through a bit of a purple patch recently regarding auction wins. Does anyone else out there in OBCLand feel that there are bargains galore to be had on ebay at the moment? I'm finding that I'm picking up cards that have been on my lists for years for a fraction of the price that I would expect to pay. Of course, from my point of view it helps that the current UK-US exchange rate is VERY advantageous at present (it sucks if you guys are coming in this direction, but at the moment its working out great for me!). Foe example, over the last couple months, I've knocked off 13 of the remaining 22 cards from my 1960 birthyear set (Snider, Aaron, Musial, Drysdale, Spahn, MonbouquetteHi# , TDavisHi#, BanksAS, MathewsAS, FoxAS, PierceAS, AntonelliAS and CunninghamAS) , for an average price of less than $6 a pop, with the Aaron the most expensive single item at $13. Other big wins have included the last two 1951B Tigers that I needed (Johnson & Bearden hi#s) for $3.26 each, a 65/66T Hockey Delvecchio for $3.26, some 1966 hi#s for $3, a 49B Tiger (Wakefield) for 99c....I could go on and on (and often do). Does there seem to be a downturn in the market over there just now? Are you seeing cards at shows at lower prices than in recent years? Or have I just been lucky in finding what I consider to be some terrific bargains recently? ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:27:51 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay Absolutely downturn Glenn...in the past month I have won 4 t205s for my minimum bid (all less than $10 apiece), a 1906 W600 team composite for literally half of what I expected to pay, a group of 50 1971 Topps including 10 '71 OPC for $20 in ex condition, a bunch of Phillies stuff for low prices as well. The economy is tying up the bidders I think. This is a good time for OBC buyers I think. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:23:17 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: larrygers@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I too have been winning on Ebay. In the past week I have won 57T-last card Mantle & Berra (Vgex) 53B-Color Peewee Reese-Vg, and 54T-Jackie Robinson RC-Vg for about 10% of BV. Maybe the economy is forcing some individuals to liquidate collections? **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:54:57 EDT To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: 1964 topps beatles sets - wanted and available i have many dupes from the black and white series, especially series 2 and 3. many have writing on the back, but the fronts are VG or better. looking to trade for hits to my black and white and color set wantlists below. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB TOPPS BEATLES B&W Series 1 (1-60) WANT LIST 7, 9, 11, 12, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27, 28, 29, 32, 33, 35, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 47, 51, 56, 59, 60 Series 2 (61-115) WANT LIST (prefer orange writing on back, green is acceptable) 1 TO GO !!! Series 3 (116-165) WANT LIST 3 TO GO !!! 116, 124, 135 TOPPS BEATLES COLOR (ORANGE BACKS) WANT LIST 6, 12, 13, 16, 25, 29, 33, 34, 37, 39, 41, 44, 47, 53, 57, 62 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:21:23 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I agree that's likely. It cuts back on the willing buyers, too... ----- Original Message ---- From: "larrygers@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 12:23:17 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I too have been winning on Ebay. In the past week I have won 57T-last card Mantle & Berra (Vgex) 53B-Color Peewee Reese-Vg, and 54T-Jackie Robinson RC-Vg for about 10% of BV. Maybe the economy is forcing some individuals to liquidate ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) To: LARRYGERS@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay From the replies so far, it sure looks like I'm not alone in picking up some good stuff lately! Maybe Josh and Gersh are right about the economy bringing more card collections on to the market. Whatever the reason, it definitely seems to be a buyer's market! ----- Original Message ---- From: "LARRYGERS@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 5:23:17 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I too have been winning on Ebay. In the past week I have won 57T-last card Mantle & Berra (Vgex) 53B-Color Peewee Reese-Vg, and 54T-Jackie Robinson RC-Vg for about 10% of BV. Maybe the economy is forcing some individuals to liquidate Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:32:30 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Question of the day In the 1969 Topps set, why are the Houston Astros cards the only ones to feature the city name (HOUSTON) rather than the team name? (In case you're wondering, I don't know the answer. Do you?) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:38:52 EDT To: glenncodere@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day I am assuming they put Houston, because they were in the process of changing from the Colt 45s to Astros....I am not 100%, but that would be my guess Rob "The FIREMAN" **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:43:43 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day I don't think that's it, Rob. They changed their name to Astros in '65 or '66 to coincide with the opening of the Astrodome. ----- Original Message ---- From: "DaPatriot1@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 8:38:52 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day I am assuming they put Houston, because they were in the process of changing from the Colt 45s to Astros....I am not 100%, but that would be my guess Rob "The FIREMAN"Gioia Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. ================= To: OBC Ramblings Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:44:13 -0400 From: Bob Reed Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day This article may or may not help but I found it interesting. http://fleersticker.blogspot.com/2008/01/you-cant-call-them-astros.html Looks like it might have been a licensing battle between Topps and Fleer. To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: glenncodere@yahoo.comDate: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:32:30 -0700Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day In the 1969 Topps set, why are the Houston Astros cards the only ones to feature the city name (HOUSTON) rather than the team name?(In case you're wondering, I don't know the answer. Do you?)Glenn Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live=99 Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?sourceTXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:53:01 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day Hi Rob, I think the Colt .45s only lasted a few years (62-64), so this would be a different reason. Would you believe someone blogged about this issue in detailwith card analysis earlier this year? Great stuff! http://fleersticker.blogspot.com/2008/01/you-cant-call-them-astros.html ----- Original Message ---- From: "DaPatriot1@aol.com" To: glenncodere@yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 3:38:52 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day I am assuming they put Houston, because they were in the process of changing from the Colt 45s to Astros....I am not 100%, but that would be my guess Rob "The FIREMAN"Gioia Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 13:00:10 -0700 (PDT) To: Matthew , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day Wow! Nice find, Spike! ----- Original Message ---- From: Matthew To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 8:53:01 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day Hi Rob, I think the Colt .45s only lasted a few years (62-64), so this would be a different reason. Would you believe someone blogged about this issue in detail with card analysis earlier this year? Great stuff! http://fleersticker .blogspot. com/2008/ 01/you-cant- call-them- astros.html ----- Original Message ---- From: "DaPatriot1@ aol.com" To: glenncodere@ yahoo.com; OBC-Ramblings@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2008 3:38:52 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question of the day I am assuming they put Houston, because they were in the process of changing from the Colt 45s to Astros....I am not 100%, but that would be my guess Rob "The FIREMAN"Gioia Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:34:06 +0000 From: david.skoglund@att.net Subject: Basbeall Cards in the news and books

The local free alternative paper has an article about baseball cards on their website this week that was a mildly interesting read. Nothing really new in it, but it may be worth the minute or two it takes to read it.

 

http://blogs.citypages.com/sports/2008/06/less_than_mint.php

 

And speaking of reading about baseball cards, I finished an interesting book last night. It is called “The Card” and it is written by Michael O’Keeffe and Teri Thompson. The primary focus is on the PSA 8 T206 Honus Wagner card (the one Wayne Gretzky once owned), but as a matter of course touches on the history of the hobby, card grading scandals, memorabilia auction scandals, and of course Honus Wagner.

 

The discussion of the dark side of the hobby served as a nice reminder why I love OBC.


================= To: Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:01:26 -0700 From: "Grant" Subject: Buying on ebay Glenn and all- I have noticed that over the last year or so as well. Just this morning, I was reading an online article claiming that Ebay online sales (Buy it Now!) are now more popular than auctions. People are tired of the hassle I guess, might account for at least a part of the explanation, besides a suffering economy =85.here=92s the link: "http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20080603/bs_bw/jun2008tc2008062112762;_yltA vwoQVSV68W.mXyIBh.KaRGs0NUE"http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20080603/bs_bw/ju I also think that generally it=92s older folks that tend to collect vintage cards, and as they age, there comes a time to part with stuff. (I=92m in the process of doing just that with my comics from the late =9150=92s and =9160=92s.) Lots of fairly large card collections have been hitting the market lately. I wonder what the average age of our membership is=85.. -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Codere Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:48 AM To: OBC Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Buying on ebay I've been going through a bit of a purple patch recently regarding auction wins. Does anyone else out there in OBCLand feel that there are bargains galore to be had on ebay at the moment? I'm finding that I'm picking up cards that have been on my lists for years for a fraction of the price that I would expect to pay. Of course, from my point of view it helps that the current UK-US exchange rate is VERY advantageous at present (it sucks if you guys are coming in this direction, but at the moment its working out great for me!). Foe example, over the last couple months, I've knocked off 13 of the remaining 22 cards from my 1960 birthyear set (Snider, Aaron, Musial, Drysdale, Spahn, MonbouquetteHi#-, TDavisHi#, BanksAS, MathewsAS, FoxAS, PierceAS, AntonelliAS and CunninghamAS)-, for an average price of less than $6 a pop, with the Aaron the most expensive single item at $13. Other big wins have included the last two 1951B Tigers that I needed (Johnson & Bearden hi#s) for $3.26 each, a 65/66T Hockey Delvecchio for $3.26, some 1966 hi#s for $3, a 49B Tiger (Wakefield) for 99c....I could go on and on (and often do). Does there seem to be a downturn in the market over there just now? Are you seeing cards at shows at lower prices than in recent years? Or have I just been lucky in finding what I consider to be some terrific bargains recently? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM ================= To: "obc rambling" Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:09:53 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1967 opc needs So close 7 must finish before Rick (: Any Help: 1967 opee chee vg up (4 left) #38(bob johnson),117(brandon), 129(phil roof),140(stargell) Thanks for the look Anthony Arbeeny ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:30:03 -0400 From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: Re: Houston Vs. Astros Here is an article I wrote for FCO, which was a 'zine put out by then OBC member Phil Chmielewski about 15 years ago.? It was called "The Team That Topps Forgot" and took a look at the lack of ASTROS wording and logos in the Topps sets of the mid to late 60's.? Enjoy-Dave Back in the days of yore (that's the 1960's folks) there once was a baseball team called the Houston Colt 45's.? Born at the same time as the New York Mets, the Colts were definitely the National League's poor stepson.? In 1965, after three rather non-descript seasons and a dispute with the Colt Firearms Company, which had licensed the name to the team, the Houston National League Baseball Club changed their name to the Astros.? The name was chosen due to Houston's growing renown as an aerospace hotbed. Jump ahead another three years to March, 1968 and picture yourself as a ten year old Astros fan about to open your first pack of Topps baseball cards for the season.? You open the bright yellow wax wrapper and the smell of bubblegum fills your nostrils.? Delicately, after popping the pink slab in your mouth and savoring the sweet, pungent taste of the gum, you examine the five cards in your hands.? Right away you notice they look kind of strange, sort of like a burlap sack.? But you don't mind; because they are the first cards of the spring, because you are young, because spring training started last week and the newspapers are filled with baseball stories. Gil Hodges is staring you right in the face, his dour look making him look like your gym teacher. You hit gold on the next piece of cardboard-Willie Mays!? What incredible luck for your first pack!? Your heart beats a little faster as you flip Willie over to reveal Denny McLain.? You are really cruising.? Denny gives way to Julio Gotay, and okay he's only an infielder, but he's an Astro and you feel this is the most incredible pack of cards you have ever opened in your life.? You slide Julio over to reveal Tom Tresh, but something is wrong!? You back up to Gil Hodges and run through the team names: Mets, Giants, Tigers, Houston, Yankees.? Houston?? Why not Astros?? What's going on here?? And then you forget all about it.? After all, it's springtime and you're ten years old. So what happened back in 1968?? Well, the word Astros did not appear on the front of a Topps baseball card, that's for sure (I know, I looked-but only at the fronts!).? There wasn't an Astros cap, patch or uniform to be seen.? From card number? 21, Ron Davis, all the way through number 592, John Bateman, there is not one shred of evidence indicating the team's name.? What could have caused such a situation? The roots of the problem date to 1964, when there was no Colts team card in Topps annual offering.? So it continued: 1965, '66, '67.? Where were the Astros team cards?? The only thing I can figure out is that the dispute with Colt Firearms over licensing played a part.? Perhaps the club was prohibited from supplying Topps with a team photo in 1964.? Maybe Topps refused to print one under threat of legal action from Colt Firearms.? But that had never stopped Topps in the past, they would just use an old one.? In fact, they could have used the picture from the 1963 set, airbrushed of course, but they didn't. Once the team name was changed in 1965, any licensing problems with the Colt Firearms Company would have been moot.? The individual player cards said Astros, so things were essentially fine at Topps, since they signed players to individual contracts.? There were still? cards of Astros players in '66 and '67, but the club, for whatever reason, would not supply Topps with an official team photo.? And then something happened.? That something was Marvin Miller. To make a long story short, Miller forced Topps to increase their payouts to the ball players in 1968 and also contribute a portion of their gross sales to the newly formed Major League Baseball Players Association.? The Owners, never ones to let a nickel slide through their fingers untouched, formed their own group, Major League? Baseball Promotions Corporation.? If I understand it correctly, licensing fees had to be paid to both Associations if you wanted to picture a player with his team logo on a product.? Thus began the continuing saga of licensed major league memorabilia.? You're probably wondering how this ties in, aren't you? Well, the Astros were owned by a character named Judge Roy M. Hofheinz and the Judge was not always on the best of terms with his fellow Owners.?? He was, to be charitable, considered an eccentric.? My guess is he had some kind of falling out with the other Owners over the licensing deal they had worked out with Topps and forbade them to use the Astros logo on baseball cards.? Perhaps he still carried a grudge from 1964, when Topps didn't put his team on a card. The net result of this was one of Topps all time airbrush jobs.? They took Astros logos off caps, made sure only the road uniforms showed on the cards and showed a lot of players sporting some really neat mid-sixties hair styles.? There is not a trace of the Astros name on any of the thirty one Houston cards in the 1968 Topps set. In 1969, the problem persisted.? The card fronts once again said Houston and not a logo was to be found.? Series One, Two and Three were all like this.? Then all of a sudden, when the Fourth Series cards came out, the logos were back!? The team name was still shown as Houston on the rest of the cards that year for the sake of continuity. but the logo was visible on most cards.? Except for a high number card of Harry Walker, which features an obviously airbrushed cap, it appears no additional effort was made by Topps to conceal the fact that Houston's entry in the National League was known as the Astros.? No team cards were issued in 1969, but after seven years, the 1970 set had a Houston Astros team card in it.? Topps has done some pretty strange things over the years, but to me the team that Topps forgot is among the strangest. ================= Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:56:33 EDT To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: sportsfest in one of the worst advertised shows in a long time, it appears that chicago sportsfest is occuring this weekend in schaumberg. is anyone planning on **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:37:10 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Steve Rittenberg" Subject: hi y'all hi y'all. we are rockin' and rollin' here in alabammy. to contact me, email or send a text message to 3012755106. --- Steve ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:53:30 +0000 From: david.skoglund@att.net Subject: eBay: People are stupid
Honus Wagner from the Dover reprint book. Currently at $102.50.
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================= Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:56:45 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "David Skoglund" Subject: Re: eBay: People are stupid It muse be because I just read that book about the T206 Wagner, I couldn't help trying to educate this eBay seller. Its not like he's the first person to flog a worthless reprint on eBay. I must be in an extra feisty mood today or something. The auction description: "If you look closely at the back of this card, you will NOT see "REPRINT" written above the Piedmont name. All reprints produced after the first 1941 reprint will state that it is a reprint, of a reprint. This is a very rare 1st reprint actual date 1941 from Dover Reprint straight out of the book of 150 prints that were attached by perforation. I have done a lot of research, and can not find another card without the "reprint" above the Piedmont name. The T206 White border Honus Wagner print has been encased for over 20 years that I know of, in stunning condition. The backside of the print shows what seems to be a slight crease, but must be a factory flaw, since it is not showing on the front (photo) side. This card is readily identifiable as the 1st reprint, by the perforated edges. You will not find this on any other reprint since. The height of the card is approx. 2-13/16 and width 1-9/16, border to border. The photo size is 2-3/8 x 1-1/4. There are 3 perforated sides. The back shows Piedmont The Cigarette of Quality. If you look at the back closely, right under where it says "Subjects" you will see where what I described as a crease flaw. If you look at the front, you will see no flaw or crease, as it is extremely MINT. Please be advised that I have nearly 1800 feedbacks and a 100% rating. I am not a dealer, I am an individual. I have been collecting cards and memorabilia, for nearly 50 years. This is one piece, I really do not want to see go, but retirement is forthcoming, and I need to sell off some of the old treasures. This is guaranteed to be as stated. If the card does not sell, I am going to Up the insurance I have on it already, and have it verified by either BCGS, or PSA. Then I will know what it is really worth. Don't miss your chance to own this rare piece of history. I will only accept verifiable funds through Bank Certified check, or from an authorized PayPal account. If PayPal is used, there will be a 3% fee of the auction value, as that is what they charge me to accept PayPal. Funds to be in U.S. Dollars. Shipping will be figured at the time of sale, with your choice of delivery, and insurance is most definitely required. Thank you. " A question I submitted: "Where is your information that this card was reprinted in 1941? The Classic Baseball Cards book published by Dover was first issued in 1977. It is still in print with a list price of $5.95." The seller's response: "The information was found on the internet. I will have to re-research it. I did find that all of the later reprints have "reprint" stamped above the Piedmont name. This particular card does not have that. I do have other cards from the book, that have been waterstained, and I can have it carbon dated also." My followup: "This card has been reprinted many times by many different companies. I've got a few different examples in my collection and they're all a little different. The ones from the Dover book just say "A Dover reprint" on the bottom. Again, this is from a book that has been in print since 1977 and sells for $5.95. Basically, the card is worth whatever you paid for the holder that it is in. This "first reprint" and "not a reprint of a reprint" stuff is nonsense. That being said, I guess it'll sell for whatever it sells for, and whoever buys it will do so because they don't know any better and they think they're getting something valuable. " ================= Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:09:11 EDT To: david.skoglund@att.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: eBay: People are stupid Carbon dated...that is funny...a 25 year old card cannot be carbon dated...it would cost him thousands to do it anyway. Guy is a moron. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:43:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "David Skoglund" Subject: Re: eBay: People are stupid Latest response: "You are probably right. I am just trying to help out my good friend from the vietnam era, that I was assigned with. I was going by what he told me he researched to be the truth, but obviously, it is not anything spectaculat as he thought. I did my own research as well as I could before listing it, and noticed that it did not state REPRINT above the piedmont name, which led me to believe it was an original reprint, as he stated. I'll probably get a negative feedback for all my efforts after it is all said and done... I've had a spotless record for 10+ years, and I can see a spanking coming..." Hmmm. I thought it was his and he hated to let it go, but needed the money to retire. Suddenly, it belongs to a friend he's helping out. The vet angle is a nice touch for sympathy. The phrase "original reprint" always makes me giggle. Reminds me of "genuine fake" for some reason. lol ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:08:39 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1973 opc team card need Hello All, Just came into a deal. I am in need of 1 card: tigers in ex up condition. I have yanks, a's, royals, card's , expos & angels to trade with. Anthony Arbeeny ================= To: "ant" , Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:24:44 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: Re: 1973 opc team set done That was fast ----- Original Message ----- From: ant To: obc rambling ; vct ; trading bases ; dugout thanks Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:08 PM Subject: 1973 opc team card need Hello All, Just came into a deal. I am in need of 1 card: tigers in ex up condition. I have yanks, a's, royals, card's , expos & angels to trade with. Anthony Arbeeny ================= Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:08:04 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: National Ok kids, my company has been in the process of moving the past month and I have over 300 emails to catch up on. But its less than 7 weeks away and its time for the National Roster to be put together. I need to know if you are going, Also send me your cell phone number, what days you are attending, what hotel you are staying at, if you will make the swap meet on Sat, and if you want to try to catch the Cubs game that Friday afternoon. I hope next week I can get some relief at work, as these 12 hour + days are killing me. I'll start putting it together. I know me and Kent have already booked flights and hotels. I can taste the cardboard already!! **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002) ================= Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:20:58 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Lynn Miller Subject: Click on the year you were born and read the news for that year This is just one of those cool things you find on the internet every now and then. There is plenty of info for each year including lots of sports/baseball details for the year. Just thought some would enjoy. I'm home in the Philippines visiting the wife and kids for a few days and will be back home in Vegas Sunday evening. Take care all, Lynn Click on the year you were born and read the news for that year. _1900_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1900.html) _1901_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1901.html) _1902_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1902.html) _1903_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1903.html) _1904_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1904.html) _1905_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1905.html) _1906_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1906.html ) _1907_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1907.html ) _1908_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1908.html ) _1909_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1909.html ) _1910_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1910.html ) _1911_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1911.html ) _1912_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1912.html ) _1913_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1913.html ) _1914_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1914.html ) _1915_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1915.html ) _1916_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1916.html ) _1917_ ( 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http://www.infoplease.com/year/1993.html ) _1994_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1994.html ) _1995_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1995.html ) _1996_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1996.html ) _1997_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1997.html ) _1998_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1998.html ) _1999_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/1999.html ) _2000_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/2000.html ) _2001_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/2001.html ) _2002_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/2002.html ) _2003_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/2003.html ) _2004_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/2004.html ) _2005_ ( http://www.infoplease com/year/2005.html ) _2006_ ( http://www.infoplease.com/year/2006.html ) ================= Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:24:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Sportsfest Hey gang, I was able to stop by Sportsfest today. I was only able to spend a few hours at th eshow, not nearly enough time to see everything and look for all the bargains. Luckily, I stopped at a table where th etwo dealers were talking about preparing a box of cards for the National so they could hand it off to OBC. Kurt Tourdot's table. I managed to pick up a number of bargains at his table, including a few of the 69 stamp booklets. It seems like a fun set to start up. Anyways,Kurt handed over 5 cards to distribute to OBC. Claim away. 1959 - 390 Cepeda. This guy has a number of pen marks on his face 1959 - 570 Turley A.S. Paper loss on front 54 bowman - 109 Roy Smalley, looks like a mouse took a bite out of the card 1964 - 172 Indians team with an Indians stamp on its front 1969 - 220 Sam McDowell, looks like it has been sitting in a dirty Claim away gang, I promised Kurt I would pass these along. ================= Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 17:14:33 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Rick" Subject: Second round for 48-53 cards I have to share my second experience will the guy I got the cards from last weekends show he has a card shop in downtown seattle so I went there yesterday to pick up some more cards and I left there with 3-48 bowman,29-49 bowman,28-50 bowman,8-51 bowman,4-52 bowman,1-53 bowman, 4- 54 bowman and 12-53 topps.In the northwest I thought those cards were non-exsisted here but he has cases full of 40's-50's star cards. I think I've found a new place to shop I was in heaven you east coast gentleman probably see that all the time but I can't even get a 1980 card at any local shops. Rick ================= Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:37:44 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Heading to Boston July 11-13 Hey Guys, I will be heading back to Boston for a bachelor party the weekend of 7/11-7/13. My buddy here in Chicago, a Cub fan, decided he wanted to see the World Champs. I told him I would probably enjoy the weekend more than anyone else, including him. We are heading to the game on Saturday. Other than that, I am not too sure about the plans. I know we will be hitting a few bars on Friday. Really, whatever the groom wants to do. Anyways, if any OBCers will be at that game, or interested in meeting up, let me know. And Spike, I have a new cell phone, so I won't have any problems this year. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:33:22 +0000 From: david.skoglund@att.net Subject: More eBay fun
 I sent a note to the seller of the following item telling him that the card he has listed for an opening bid of $10,000 was a reprint. The seller wrote back asking how I knew it was a repint. See if you guys can tell if it is the real deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270243023549
================= Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:43:25 -0700 (PDT) To: david.skoglund@att.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] More eBay fun Ha! That, or it's the most self-referential baseball card EVER. That's a classic eBay listing for sure. Sometimes, it's tempting to tell a seller "it must be a reprint because YOU HAVE IT." ----- Original Message ---- From: "david.skoglund@att.net" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 11:33:22 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] More eBay fun I sent a note to the seller of the following item telling him that the card he has listed for an opening bid of $10,000 was a reprint. The seller wrote back asking how I knew it was a repint. See if you guys can tell if it is the real deal. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270243023549 ================= Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:05:18 EDT To: OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: 2nd 1976 Topps starter set available Here are the unique numbers from 1976 I have: tradeds, 28.44.58.120.127.259.380.383.385.464.497.527.532.554.579. LMK, Bob Bannon _www.biggcards.com_ (http://www.biggcards.com) **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:43:20 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Needing a little OBC assistance I've swung a deal with Kurt Tourdot, who between now and The National is going to put together a package of cards to the value of $200 for me. As Kurt doesn't take Paypal, I was hoping that someone from OBC might be able to help out. Are you going to The National AND have the capability of accepting a $200 cash transfer via Paypal? If so, would you be able to accept that payment from me, pick up and pay for my package from Kurt at The National, and forward it on to me? I would, of course, include enough extra to cover postal costs. I also happen to owe Mike Rich $20 for an ebay deal that he picked up for me recently, and would hope that if someone could help me out here they'd also be willing to pass that amount along to Mike. As you know, my own plans to attend The National fell through, so any help to let me get something from the event would be most welcome. Hopefully, I'll be able to do my own shopping in 2009!! Keeping my fingers crossed that someone will be able to help!! Glasgow, Scotland  ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:02:48 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: More eBay fun Actually, the most self-referential baseball card that I've come across was a 1954 NY Journal-American (M127) Willie Mays. The card was a serialized contest card inserted in the newspaper, and the caption under the picture said "SAVE THIS CARD - It may be worth up to $200 cash." I saw the card at a local show about ten years ago. The price of the card was $200. Wayne Delia, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "Things should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Albert Einstein) ================= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:11:25 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re:More eBay fun Lajoie Lajoie. You can tell it is a reprint without looking at the card - just the seller's feedback of zero. George Vrechek ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:07:34 +0000 From: david.skoglund@att.net Subject: 1933 Goudey question
Does anyone know why certain cards in the 1933 Goudey set don't have the "Big League Chewing Gum" banner at the bottom on the front of the card?

This set was issued in different series wasn't it? It makes some sense that 190-240 are different since they're what looks like the final series. I'm curious about the cards in the middle of the set (97-99; 105-114; 121-129) that are different.

I've got a reprint set that came as two uncut sheets and it just looks strange to see random cards without the banner scattered around the sheet. Of course, this sheet probably bears no resemblance to an actual Goudey uncut sheet. I'm willing to bet that all the bannerless cards in the middle of the set were grouped together on the printing sheets.


================= Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:43:16 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com, From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: FATHERS DAY HELP Hello All, Fathers day is coming up, and I wanted to give a very Special person, My father a special gift. Here is a little about my dad...He is the man who got me into baseball and baseball cards...My favorite memories of dad are PLaying catch in the yard with him, Playing ball with him, him driving me to little league games, and Going to Mets and Yankees games with my dad. I remember at one of my little league games dad was in the stand and i was so nervous, I struck out the first 2 times i got up, then popped up, I was a better hitter then that and was bummed, then my coach said to me..."kid you father left i guess he was embarrassed to watch you" wow i was alittle upset, and relieved at the same time my next at abat cam with 2 down and 2 on we were down by 2 and i remember the first pitch was a low inside fastball and i just swung with no pressure just trying to get a hit...well as i was charging down the line I saw the ball never came down, and my coach said "trot...you got it" we took the lead, as i rounded 3rd I saw my father standing right there giving me a big wink....after the game (we won) he said "Son that was some shot, I am proud of you" that meant the world to me...... Another Fond Memory was Dad and I putting baseball set together the first set we worked on was the 86 topps which we finally finished thanks to ken Morganti last year, but we put wax packs sets together from 87-90 topps and 87 Donruss. He always mentioned his favorite set was the Topps set with the players in the circle as he called it the 1959 Topps. My Dad still buys me cards when ever he sees them weather i need them or not and those cards go into my sets because they are special...any card dad bought me of I bought with my father has stayed with me from the day i got it and will go to my sons. My Question to my OBC buddies is can I ask for some help starting a 59 Topps set for my dad? Right new i have a few cards for him, but id like to get a nice starter for him so Dad and I and Dad and my sons can all work on the set.....If I am out of line asking for OBC help for a non obcer I am sorry and hope not to offend any of my OBC buddies.....any Help would GREATLY be appreciated.....and just to let you guys know...If dad gets a card I need It will go to him, and I will just have to deal with it...LOL Thank you for taking the time to read this and Thank you for any help Rob "The FIREMAN" **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:55:25 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: POSSIBLE OBCER Hello all, Has anyone else dealt with John Stamper from West Hills,Ca.? I have and he is a great guy. He is interested in joining OBC and said he needed me to recommend him, he said he has 2 and needed a 3rd so I am recommending him who do I turn to to get the ball rolling on John? Rob "The FIREMAN" **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= To: , Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:56:35 +0000 From: LYONS RONI Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] POSSIBLE OBCER I just mailed my second package to him today. No problems with my two trades. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: DaPatriot1@aol.comDate: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:55:25 -0400Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] POSSIBLE OBCER Hello all, Has anyone else dealt with John Stamper from West Hills,Ca.? I have and he is a great guy. He is interested in joining OBC and said he needed me to recommend him, he said he has 2 and needed a 3rd so I am recommending him who do I turn to to get the ball rolling on John? Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. ================= To: dapatriot1@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, LYONS RONI Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:51:39 -0400 From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] POSSIBLE OBCER He gets a big thumbs up from me !! Easy to deal with. On Wed Jun 11 20:56 , LYONS RONI sent: >I just mailed my second package to him today. No problems with my two trades. >To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >From: DaPatriot1@aol.com >Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:55:25 -0400 >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] POSSIBLE OBCER >Hello all, > Has anyone else dealt with John Stamper from West Hills,Ca.? I have and he is a great guy. He is interested in joining OBC and said he needed meto recommend him, he said he has 2 and needed a 3rd so I am recommending him who do I turn to to get the ball rolling on John? >Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia >Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:52:54 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Mike Mroz" Subject: Re: POSSIBLE OBCER I've traded with John and it went very well. Mike Mroz --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, DaPatriot1@... wrote: > Hello all, > Has anyone else dealt with John Stamper from West Hills,Ca.? I have and > he is a great guy. He is interested in joining OBC and said he needed me to > recommend him, he said he has 2 and needed a 3rd so I am recommending him who > do I turn to to get the ball rolling on John? > Rob "The FIREMAN" > Gioia > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncidaolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:59:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikerw7" Subject: 41-1 This is more general baseball than collecting, but I figure it's appropriate for the Ramblings. Last Friday I took my family to see our local semi-proish team, the Wenatchee AppleSox (/www.applesox.com/), in their season opener. The A-Sox are in the West Coast Collegiate Baseball League (/www.wccbl.com/), a wood bat league (love that!) which gives college players and prospects a summer league to play in and folks like us a local team to cheer for when we aren't up to driving 3 hours over the Cascades to see the Mariners. The home team won the game by the score of 41-1, and the game was called after 7 innings--which, when you think about it, means that they scored 41 runs in 6 at-bats. It was really painful. It started out exciting, but you reach a point where you are just cringing for the other team and rooting for the slaughter to end. Any of you ever seen anything like that in organized baseball? They won that first series by 60-2. Tonight they won 12-1. I think they'll be good this year. Mike Rumley-Wells ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:20:09 EDT To: mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: DaPatriot1@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 I dont know who the managers of the teams are, but I would expect a few pitches into someone's ear tonight and even a few hard ones in the back maybe I'm old school, but you should never run up the score like that. Any player that gets hurt in the next game it should all be on the manager its his fault he needs to teach these kids sportsmanship and not to route teams. 41-1 is a classless act sorry if you disagree with me but that's my feeling Rob "The FIREMAN" **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:40:04 -0700 (PDT) To: mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, DaPatriot1@aol.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 Unless, of course, the team on the receiving end is the Yankees. --- On Thu, 6/12/08, DaPatriot1@aol.com <DaPatriot1@aol.com> wrote: From: DaPatriot1@aol.com <DaPatriot1@aol.com> Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 To: mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:20 PM I dont know who the managers of the teams are, but I would expect a few pitches into someone's ear tonight and even a few hard ones in the back maybe I'm old school, but you should never run up the score like that. Any player that gets hurt in the next game it should all be on the manager its his fault he needs to teach these kids sportsmanship and not to route teams. 41-1 is a classless act sorry if you disagree with me but that's my feeling Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:04:42 -0400 From: "Jim Beauchemin" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 Tough situation. I was involved in a game like this once. We only had nine players, so we couldn't put in any less-talented subs. A few of us started batting opposite-handed. That wasn't much of a penalty for me, since I switch-hit at times during sandlot ball anyway, and the other team felt insulted by the attempt and complained about it. Even when we were trying to make outs, it didn't always work. ----- Original Message ----- From: DaPatriot1@aol.com To: mikerw7@gmail.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 I dont know who the managers of the teams are, but I would expect a few pitches into someone's ear tonight and even a few hard ones in the back maybe I'm old school, but you should never run up the score like that. Any player that gets hurt in the next game it should all be on the manager its his fault he needs to teach these kids sportsmanship and not to route teams. 41-1 is a classless act sorry if you disagree with me but that's my feeling Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:29:13 EDT To: mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 my 5th grade softball team had a 31-8 win in which yours truly belted 4 HRs. considering they timed my in the 100 yard dash with a calendar, i thought that was pretty good. In a message dated 6/12/2008 4:00:00 AM Central Daylight Time, mikerw7@gmail.com writes: This is more general baseball than collecting, but I figure it's appropriate for the Ramblings. Last Friday I took my family to see our local semi-proish team, the Wenatchee AppleSox (/www.applesox.(/www.applesox.com/), in their season opener. The West Coast Collegiate Baseball League (/www.wccbl.West Coast Collegiate league (love that!) which gives college players and prospects a summer league to play in and folks like us a local team to cheer for when we aren't up to driving 3 hours over the Cascades to see the Mariners. The home team won the game by the score of 41-1, and the game was called after 7 innings--which, when you think about it, means that they scored 41 runs in 6 at-bats. It was really painful. It started out exciting, but you reach a point where you are just cringing for the other team and rooting for the slaughter to end. Any of you ever seen anything like that in organized baseball? They won that first series by 60-2. Tonight they won 12-1. I think they'll be good this year. Mike Rumley-Wells **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:31:37 EDT To: DaPatriot1@aol.com, mikerw7@gmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 how do you do that? do you tell a batter not to swing, run or catch? you can put in all your scrubs, not steal or hit and run, but what else? In a message dated 6/12/2008 7:20:54 AM Central Daylight Time, DaPatriot1@aol.com writes: I dont know who the managers of the teams are, but I would expect a few pitches into someone's ear tonight and even a few hard ones in the back maybe I'm old school, but you should never run up the score like that. Any player that gets hurt in the next game it should all be on the manager its his fault he needs to teach these kids sportsmanship and not to route teams. 41-1 is a classless act sorry if you disagree with me but that's my feeling Rob "The FIREMAN" Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. _City's Best 2008_ (http://citysbest.aol.com/?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) . **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:20:06 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 Jim makes a good point. I know it's a different sport, but I had a similar problem as a high school basketball coach back in the late '80s that is comparable to the baseball situation explained here. I was filling in as coach that year and had a small but very good starting five dominated by seniors. I had virtually no talent on the bench. Some of the younger ones turned into good players in future years, but they were still very "green" on the night of this game. Our strategy all year was to use our superior conditioning to wear out our opponents while running, running and then running some more. We were playing the worst team in the league in a home game that night. They had one excellent player and not much else. By half time we had a very good lead and there did not seem to be much doubt who would win. My AD came over to me and said he was worried about how badly we were beating the other team. He asked me to try to do something to avoid any further embarrassment for the visitors. Now, while I understood his point, I was in a little bit of a difficult situation. Sure, I could put in mass substitutions; but, quite frankly, I still felt that their starting five, led by that one excellent player, could make a comeback. I settled on what I thought was a middle-ground position. I did substitute more freely, but the major strategy was to slow down the game, holding the ball part of the time, and try to milk the clock(no shot clock then in our league) and avoid running up the score. In the end, it worked; but it has bothered me ever since that I may have insulted our opponents. We had good kids, but they were not good actors. It was pretty obvious what we were doing. Like most decisions in life, it always ends up being more complicated than you think it will be. Bob Corvello 42 Winston Drive Washington Depot, Ct. 06794 860 868-2939 Friar4@aol.com RobertCorvello@yahoo.com _http://hometown.aol.com/friar4/myhomepage/sports.html_ (http://hometown.aol.com/friar4/myhomepage/sports.html) Member: OBC, VCT, DT **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= To: "Jim Beauchemin" , Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:56:30 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 Jim's story reminds me of a young girl's fast pitch team my wife and I coached one time. We entered a local tournament (our first) to gain some experience. We were easily the youngest and least experienced team in the tournament. In the first game we were routed. The other team started clowning around, batting wrong-handed, and generally laughing it up an having a goodtime. Our girls, of course, were somewhat humiliated and upset. To theirgreat credit and my Wife's great skill with children, we won all the rest of the qualifying games (what doesn't kill you makes you stronger). In thechampionship game we met the team that had humiliated us in the first game. The umpires added insult by instituting a special "10 run rule" which normally doesn't apply to championship games. After 5 innings we were ahead 3-1 and the other team was sweating bullets! The opponents eventually rallied and beat us 5-3 but you can bet they were not laughing or batting wronghanded. Our girls received a lot of respect after the game, both from theopponents and from the umpires. I felt that our "victory" was bigger and more important than that of our opponents. -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Beauchemin To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 Tough situation. I was involved in a game like this once. We only had nine players, so we couldn't put in any less-talented subs. A few of us started batting opposite-handed. That wasn't much of a penalty for me, since I switch-hit at times during sandlot ball anyway, and the other team felt insulted by the attempt and complained about it. Even when we were trying to make outs, it didn't always work. ----- Original Message ----- From: DaPatriot1@aol.com To: mikerw7@gmail.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 I dont know who the managers of the teams are, but I would expect a fewpitches into someone's ear tonight and even a few hard ones in the back maybe I'm old school, but you should never run up the score like that. Any player that gets hurt in the next game it should all be on the manager its his fault he needs to teach these kids sportsmanship and not to route teams. 41-1 is a classless act sorry if you disagree with me but that's my feeling Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. ================= To: "Jim Beauchemin" , Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:50:36 +0000 From: tvalacak@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 I coach varsity softball at Fremd High School. I have been on both sides of this story, beating a team 22-2, and losing to a team 20-3. In the game we won, we substituted in our bench (but we only carry about 12 girls a year, so there is not much bench) and we stopped stealing and taking bases on wild pitches. At no point did we tell our girls to purposely strike out or bat from the opposite side, or not swing. When we got our butts kicked, the opposing coach did what we had done. He stopped taking extra bases, but never had his kids give us outs. As embarrasing as it is losing 20-3, it would have been 100 times worse had he given us outs. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Jim Beauchemin" Tough situation. I was involved in a game like this once. We only had nine players, so we couldn't put in any less-talented subs. A few of us started batting opposite-handed. That wasn't much of a penalty for me, since I switch-hit at times during sandlot ball anyway, and the other team felt insulted by the attempt and complained about it. Even when we were trying to make outs, it didn't always work. ----- Original Message ----- From: DaPatriot1@aol.com To: mikerw7@gmail.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 I dont know who the managers of the teams are, but I would expect a few pitches into someone's ear tonight and even a few hard ones in the back maybe I'm old school, but you should never run up the score like that. Any player that gets hurt in the next game it should all be on the manager its his fault he needs to teach these kids sportsmanship and not to route teams. 41-1 is a classless act sorry if you disagree with me but that's my feeling Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:13:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Any information on these unusual sports tobacco cards from around 1938? I know these tobacco cards are from around 1938 because I have another one from the same set picturing a team and mentioning on the back of the card it is a championship team from 1938. Any information on these 2 unusual sports tobacco cards and what is printed on the back of them? Anyone else have any of these? The cards measure 2" by just under 3". My scans enlarged the cards. http://tinyurl.com/5x6lvl http://tinyurl.com/3ufs8x thanks, Linda ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:27:00 -0700 (PDT) To: Linda , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any information on these unusual sports tobacco cards from around 1938? Hey Linda, Why not send your questions to this web site - JewishSports.com I'd bet that they be able to tell you something about them. They may even be interested in finding out more about them themselves! ----- Original Message ---- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:13:30 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any information on these unusual sports tobacco cards from around 1938? I know these tobacco cards are from around 1938 because I have another one from the same set picturing a team and mentioning on the back of the card it is a championship team from 1938. Any information on these 2 unusual sports tobacco cards and what is printed on the back of them? Anyone else have any of these? The cards measure 2" by just under 3". My scans enlarged the cards. http://tinyurl. com/5x6lvl http://tinyurl. com/3ufs8x thanks, Linda ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:17:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "b_betza" Subject: Re: POSSIBLE OBCER 110% YES!!! Very generous and very easy to deal with--will make a great OBC'er!! John patiently waited until I had time to swap and just keeps sending cards!! He told me he did submit his application in the last day or so... Brian Betza --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Mroz" wrote: > I've traded with John and it went very well. > Mike Mroz > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, DaPatriot1@ wrote: > > > > > > Hello all, > > Has anyone else dealt with John Stamper from West Hills,Ca.? > I have and > > he is a great guy. He is interested in joining OBC and said he > needed me to > > recommend him, he said he has 2 and needed a 3rd so I am > recommending him who > > do I turn to to get the ball rolling on John? > > > > > > > > Rob "The FIREMAN" > > Gioia > > > > > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. > City's Best > > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncidaolacg00050000000102) > > ================= Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:37:38 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Shipping a binder OBCers -- What's the best way to ship a binder of cards? I am thinking of selling/trading some of my early 80's sets to clear some space and wanted to get a good idea what to charge on Ebay for shipping. Thanks for any help! Take Care, ================= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:57:32 -0400 From: "Carlos Alcazar" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 This is a tricky one. I'm of two minds on the situation. I understand the idea of sportsmanship and such, but the truth is I never like either team letting up for any reason. If either team is going to let up you may as well call the game there. If I'm on the winning side I don't want to go at half speed because then I'd check out of the game and that's when you can hurt. At the same time if I'm on the losing side I'm not interested in playing with the other team letting up as it's no longer a game when people stop competing. From a common sense standpoint somebody probably should have stopped the game once somebody had a 15-20 run lead. If one team is being outclassed thatbadly they probably aren't going to be making such a huge comeback. In little league I had teams on both ends of such games and in both cases Iwanted to keep playing at full speed. If you're winning, keep going until the other team figures out a way to stop you or the mercy rule kicks in, ifyou're on the losing side, play better. That's just me though, ================= To: illini_grad_90@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:34:38 -0400 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Shipping a binder T205 binder...I will pay $20 s/h with insurance...you know where to send it. For others....a Priority Mail box with insurance should not cost more than $15 if I recall. -----Original Message----- From: Geno Wagner To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 7:37 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Shipping a binder OBCers -- What's the best way to ship a binder of cards? I am thinking of selling/trading some of my early 80's sets to clear some space and wanted to get a good idea what to charge on Ebay for shipping. Thanks for any help! Take Care, OBC is governed by Rules of Conduct approved by the OBC Advisory Committee. The Rules of Conduct are available from a link on the home page or directly at www.oldbaseball.com/obcroc.htmlYahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:05:57 -0400 To: "Carlos Alcazar" From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 41-1 I've a couple of relevant experiences. I recall one game we were down by 20+ and the other team asked the ump if they could skip their at bats so the game would get over quicker. I was pissed! In little league we were down 20 runs going into the last inning and pulled out a victory. Again in adult fast pitch softball we were down 20 runs in the final inning. We started a comeback, their pitcher suddenly couldn't find the plate, walked about 8-9 straight and we A certain basketball team was down 24 points ... On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Carlos Alcazar wrote: > This is a tricky one. I'm of two minds on the situation. > I understand the idea of sportsmanship and such, but the truth is I never > like either team letting up for any reason. If either team is going to let > up you may as well call the game there. If I'm on the winning side I don't > want to go at half speed because then I'd check out of the game and that's > when you can hurt. At the same time if I'm on the losing side I'm not > interested in playing with the other team letting up as it's no longer a > game when people stop competing. > From a common sense standpoint somebody probably should have stopped the > game once somebody had a 15-20 run lead. If one team is being outclassed > that badly they probably aren't going to be making such a huge comeback. > In little league I had teams on both ends of such games and in both cases I > wanted to keep playing at full speed. If you're winning, keep going until > the other team figures out a way to stop you or the mercy rule kicks in, if > you're on the losing side, play better. > That's just me though, > Carlos ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:21:07 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Where, oh where has Nieto gone? OBCers -- I was looking to trade my 1986 Topps set for a pre-war beater, but I started flipping through the pages to see some of my old friends before possibly sending them out the door. Sure enough - Sutcliffe, Shawon Dunston, Sandberg...but wait, what's this?!? There's an empty slot - it must be Nolan Ryan or Cal Ripken that I traded away at some point. Let's look up #88...Tom Nieto!?! How could I possibly be missing Tom Nieto? I don't recall ever having him over for dinner where he might have swiped it. So, does anybody have a 1986 Tom Nieto lying around in case I get a trade for my set? I'd hate to have my T202 Ty Cobb deal fall through on a Nieto technicallity... Take Care, ================= To: , OBC Ramblings Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:00:17 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Where, oh where has Nieto gone? I once traded my 86 topps set for a Nolan Ryan rookie in the second greatest swindle of all time. Then, in the greatest swindle of all time, I tradedmy Nolan Ryan rookie for an Autographed 84 Donruss Joe Carter rookie. Hope Geno's trade is more like the former...and less like the latter. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.comFrom: illini_grad_90@yahoo.comDate: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:21:07 -0700Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Where, oh where has Nietogone? OBCers --I was looking to trade my 1986 Topps set for a pre-war beater, butI started flipping through the pages to see some of my old friends before possibly sending them out the door. Sure enough - Sutcliffe, Shawon Dunston, Sandberg...but wait, what's this?!? There's an empty slot - it must be Nolan Ryan or Cal Ripken that I traded away at some point. Let's look up #88...Tom Nieto!?! How could I possibly be missing Tom Nieto? I don't recall ever having him over for dinner where he might have swiped it.So, does anybody have a 1986 Tom Nieto lying around in case I get a trade for my set? I'd hate to have my T202 Ty Cobb deal fall through on a Nieto technicallity...Take Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join you on Windows Live=99 Messenger. Add now. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?sourceTXT_EML_WLH_AddNow_Now ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:13:33 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: My mini-Ramble I mentioned in a just-posted thanks that I had a reason for being late on thanking Mark & Lynn. Here's why: As many of you know, I'm a producer/director at the local CBS affiliate. One of the things I'm in charge of is producing our local Children's Miracle Network telethon - over 6 hours of local cut-ins, asking our viewers to pledge their hard-earned cash to Dayton Children's Medical Center. Well, this year I procrastinated when it came to putting together three major patient stories, and, just when I was beginning to think "oh boy - this could be trouble" - one of our two commercial writer/producers quit, and I got the task of filling in for him. So, suddenly I wasn't just behind, I was WAY behind, because I could no longer devote my full attention to the telethon - I had to do commercials too. Well, the telethon came & somehow I managed to actually be ready. I edited all of the video we aired, & everything fell right into place. (As the telethon producer, EVERYTHING that goes on the air is my responsibility.) Our hospital rep didn't think there was any way we'd raise more than we did last year - but the viewers came through, and we went from raising 1.86 million dollars last year - to raising 1.95 million this year. That's the most we've ever raised in the 26 years our station has been airing the telethon. Guys & Linda, if you've ever had a sick child at a children's hospital, you know what terrific places they are (our own Dr. Neal Thomas will vouch for that), so it was really gratifying to play a part in something that makes such a difference. The day after the telethon ended, one of our co-hosts decided it was time to step down. He's 83 years old & has co-hosted every one of our telethons. That came as quite a blow, although we knew the day was coming. Then, later that same day, I finally, after working in TV for 24 years, received my first-ever Emmy nomination (not a national Emmy, a regional one). My nomination was for a story I did last year for one of our patients at Dayton Children's. Cross your fingers for me - the Emmy awards aren't until August. Finally, I've applied for the vacant commercial writer/producer position. I've been filling in for a month now, writing, producing & editing local commercials. You might ask (if you've read this far) why I would want to move from directing to doing commercials. The answer - job security. In fact, I haven't directed anything for over a year now. Our station bought a piece of automation that basically eliminates the director's position. All I do for news now is put in computer codes, and to me that's not TV. I figure there will always be a demand for commercials & there's no way - at least yet - that that job can be automated. Finally, I'd like to ask a small favor of each of you. Next year, when the CMN telethon rolls around, see if you can dig a little bit & make a small contribution. The money stays at your local CMN hospital & you really will make miracles happen for a kid. Pass on one eBay auction & instead pledge that money to the hospital nearest you. Believe me, every dollar makes a difference. If any of you would like to see one of the stories I did (wrote, produced, & edited), I'll keep you updated; Dayton Children's is going to post the stories on their web site in the near future - and if I get motivated maybe I'll even post them to YouTube. Thanks for reading! ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:15:01 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] POSSIBLE OBC'er I too have been swapping a few (Quite a few, in fact!) with John for a couple of months now, and we discussed his interest in joining the group early on. He has gone out of his way to find some near impossible cards from my wants and I recommend him to the group strongly enough that I too, agreedto sponsor him when he asked me. ----- Original Message ----- From: DaPatriot1@aol.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] POSSIBLE OBCER Hello all, Has anyone else dealt with John Stamper from West Hills,Ca.? I have and he is a great guy. He is interested in joining OBC and said he needed me to recommend him, he said he has 2 and needed a 3rd so I am recommending him who do I turn to to get the ball rolling on John? Rob "The FIREMAN" Gioia Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:19:19 -0400 From: "Bill Malson" Subject: Woodie Waiver Wire - 62 Extravagana!!!! My OBC activity has been a little lacking - so maybe this will get me started. Lots of 62s here, most of them VG or maybe a bit better. Have at 'em, include an address. 098 151 168 178 182 184 192 207 212 214 221 223 224 227 327 331 332 336 336338 343 344 347 367 368 393 403 404 408 410 411 412 424 428 498 Bill Malson ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:37:18 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: post dupes Hello All, I have the following in different conditions 1961 post 1962 post anthony arbeeny ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:17:10 -0700 From: "Grant" Subject: Pro's Pizza??? Much to my chagrin, I have discovered a Billy Hoeft card MAY exist that I have never heard of=85.1965 Pro=92s Pizza. Appears to be a regional issue and I think they are all Cubs. There are a few in Ebay Stores listed for anywhere between $100 and $1000. Anybody know anything about these, like how many in the set, or a checklist? It=92s not listed in my very current 1999 SCD. No, I=92m not going after the set=85.but if a Billy pops up, I just MIGHT be tempted=85.. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM ================= To: grains@dccnet.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:59:57 -0400 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pro's Pizza??? According to my 2005 SCD Pro's Pizza cards were sold at Wrigley Field between 1966-1967. In 1966 there is a Bill Hoeft card and in nrmt (in 2005) it sold for $90. Hope this helps. -----Original Message----- From: Grant To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 9:17 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Pro's Pizza??? Much to my chagrin, I have discovered a Billy Hoeft card MAY exist that I have never heard of=E2=A6.1965 Pro=E2=99s Pizza. Appears to be a regional issue and I think they are all Cubs. There are a few in Ebay Stores listed for anywhere between $100 and $1000. Anybody know anything about these,like how many in the set, or a checklist? It=E2=99s not listed in my very current 1999 SCD. No, I=E2=99m not going after the set=E2=A6.but if a Billy pops up, I just MIGHT be tempted=E2=A6.. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:13:52 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: T206's available I have 7 T206's available for trade. Marshall Poor, Bottom 1/4 inch of card cut off. Piedmont back McGraw, portrait no cap, F/P Top right corner clipped. Piedmont back McIntyre, Brooklyn Fair, Piedmont back Schaefer, Detroit F/P Piedmont back Stephens F/P Piedmont back Stovall, batting Fair, Polar Bear back Weimer Poor, clipped corner, Sovereign back I would like to trade for any T206 from my list below or prewar cards from Type card list at _www.biggcards.com_ (http://www.biggcards.com) 1909-1911 T206 Needs: Any condition. (I use the SCD catalogue numbers) 22 Bastian, 32 Bender-pitching no trees, 33 Bender-pitching with trees, 35 Bergen-batting, 36 Bergen-catching, 38 Bernhard, 40 Bescher-portrait, 50 Breitenstein, 51 Bresnahan-portrait, 52 Bresnahan-with bat, 55b G. Brown-Washington 54 Bridwell-portrait w/cap, 56 M. Brown-Chicago on shirt, 59 Burch-batting, 69 Camnitz-arms above head, 71 Carey, 74 Casey, 75 Cassidy, 76 Chance-batting, 78 Chance-portratit yellow back ground 81 Chase-holding trophy, 86 Chase-throwing w/white cap 87 Cicotte, 88 Clancy, 91 F. Clarke-Pitt portrait, 92 J. Clarke-Nig-Cleveland, 94 Cobb-Portrait green b/g, 95 Cobb-Portrait red b/g, 97 Cobb-bat on shoulder, 98 Coles, 99 Collins-Phil, 100 Collins-Minn, 105 Crandall-no cap, 109 Crawford-throwing, 110 Crawford-w/bat, 115a Dahlen Boston, 115b Dahlen-Brooklyn, 117 G. Davis-Chicago, 122b Demmit-St Louis 131 Donovan-portrait, 138 Dougherty-arm in air, 143a J. Doyle-NY Natl hands above head, 143b J. Doyle NY hands above head, 146 L.Doyle NY natl with bat, 148 Duffy, 150 Dunn-Brooklyn, 155b Elbefeld-Washington portrait, 156 Elberfeld-fielding, 157 Ellam, 159 Evans, 160 Evers-portrait, 161 Evers-w/bat Chicago on shirt, 162 Evers-w.bat Cubs on shirt, 164 Ferguson, 166 Fiene-portrait, 172 Foster, 173 Freeman, 175 Fritz, 185 B Graham-St Louis, 190 Griffith-portrait, 193 Gulheen, 198 Hart-Little Rock, 199 Hart-Montgomery, 202 Helm, 206 Hickman, 213 Hooker, 215 Howard-Savannah, 218 Huggins-hands at mouth, 219 Huggins-portrait, 226 Jennings-one hand showing, 228 Jennings-portrait, 229 Johnson-hands at chest, 230 Johnson-portrait, 235 Jordan-Atlanta, 238 Joss-pitching, 241 Keeler-portrait, 242 Keeler-w/bat, 244 Kiernan, 247 King, 249b Kleinow-NY catching, 251 Kling, 253 Knight-portrait, 254 Knight-w/bat, 260 Kruger, 261 Lafitte, 262 Lajoie-portrait, 263 Lajoie-throwing, 264 Lajoie-w/bat, 271 Lavender, 274 Leifield-batting, 280 Lipe, 287a Magie, 287b Magee-portrait, 291 Manion, 296 Marquard-portrait, 298 Mathewson-dark cap, 299 Mathewson-portrait, 300 Mathewson-white cap, 311 McGraw-finger in air, 312 McGraw-glove at hip, 316 McIntyre-Brooklyn & Chicago, 322 Merkle-throwing, 324 Meyers, 336 Mowrey, 337 Mullaney, 338 Mullen, 342 Murphey-throwing, 347 Nattress, 350 Nichols-batting, 353 Oberlin, 355 O'Hara-St Louis 356 Oldring-batting, 361 Orth, 362 Otey, 363 Overall-hands face level, 367 Paige, 374 Pelty Vertical, 375 Perdue, 377 Persons, 379 Pfeister-seated, 385 Plank!, 386 Poland, 387 Powell, 393 Randall, 395 Reagan, 398 Revelle, 399 Rhoades-hands at chest, 404 Rockenfeld, 407 Rucker-throwing, 409 Ryan, 411 Schaefer-Washington 412 Schirm 414 Schlei-batting 420 Schulte-front view, 423 Seitz, 425 Seymour-portrait, 429 Shaughnessy, 432 Sheckard-glove showing, 436 Smith-Shreveport 437 Smith-F. Smith on front, 438b Smith-Chicago and Boston, 441 Smith-Atlanta, 443 Snodgrass-catching, 445 Speaker, 447 Stahl-glove shows, 450 Stark, 463 Sweeney-Boston, 466 Tannehill-LTannehill on front, 467 Tannehill, 469 Tenney, 470 Thebo, 473 Thornton, 474 Tinker-bat off, 476 Tinker-hands on knees, 477 Tinker-portrait, 481 Violat, 483 Waddell-throwing, 484 Wagner-bat on left shoulder, 486 Yeah right, 487 Wallace, 488 Walsh, 489 Warhop, 491 Westlake, 495 White-Houston, 496 White-Buffalo, 501 Williams, 502 Willis-portrait, 503 Willis-throwing, 506 Wiltse-pitching, 508 Wiltse-portrait w/cap, 511 Young-Cleveland bare hand shows, 512 Young-Cleveland portrait, T206 Backs that I need for TC set: Broad Leaf 460, Drum, Ty Cobb, Uzit, Blank Back. Any card will do. **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= To: Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:24:24 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: test ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:48:57 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: nthomas@pol.net Subject: Greetings from Cooperstown Hi all- Greeting for the baseball capitol of the world, Coopersotwn NY. My oldest son, Eric, and his 10 year old All Star team, are up here playing in a week long tournament at Cooperstown Dreams Park. They sleep in barracks with the coaches, and spent their days trading pins and playing There are some live webcasts, if anyoen is interested. The website is: http://www.cooperstowndreamspark.com/2008WeeklyResults/CDP2008WK2/2008Week2_GameCamSchedule.htm And if you click on team 66 (Palmyra Cougars) you will see which games are being broadcast. Should be a fun week. Go Cougars! ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:21:54 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Baseball news Ethan Brock Hattox, my 10 year old grandson, had a HR and 5 RBI's in his team's victory in Painesville, OH this week. Not bad for a pitcher.... ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:25:01 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Available: GAD fun cards & recent card-related blog posting Hi all, Recently came into a lot of 1963 GAD fun cards, hoping and failing to find a #5. In any event, I've got several available to people working on the set or interested in a type card for themselves. Let me know if that's so and include your address for quick turn-around. P.S. For those interested in card-related blogs, I recently wrote about my 1952 Topps #5 (which came from OBC) to the Things Done to Cards site. Most of their postings are UV-related, so I'm trying to add "competitive balance" from the vintage side. Should be easy, with so many cards in my collection that had things done to them! ================= To: Matthew , obc ramblings Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:01:02 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Available: GAD fun cards & recent card-related blog posting Hey Spike, I need a handful of the GAD cards, unfortunately #5 is one of them. I too have many dupes for this set and would be willing to spread them around as well. Here is my want list for this set: 1963 GAD Fun Cards 5, 20, 30, 40, 46, 47, 52, 53, 61, 62, 63, 64, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 81 & 82. Thanks for looking - BE WELL!!!! REGARDS ------------------ MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: Matthew Hi all, Recently came into a lot of 1963 GAD fun cards, hoping and failing to find a #5. In any event, I've got several available to people working on the set or interested in a type card for themselves. Let me know if that's so and include your address for quick turn-around. P.S. For those interested in card-related blogs, I recently wrote about my 1952 Topps #5 (which came from OBC) to the Things Done to Cards site. Most of their postings are UV-related, so I'm trying to add "competitive balance" from the vintage side. Should be easy, with so many cards in my collection that had things done to them! ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:41:31 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Summer Sabbatical As has been the case the last few years, my busy summer schedule will preclude much of my involvement in OBC. In addition to several birthday celebrations and frequent activities with 9 grandchildren, we will be having the first Kilbourn Family Reunion in 5 years and a wedding to My wife recently left a way too political and demanding job at the Michigan Supreme Court and will be off for the summer, sans some occasional private sector contractual stuff. We may even have an opportunity to take a short vacation which would be the first in 5 Another really cool activity will be attending my 6 year old grandson's quad races. He will be racing almost every weekend until mid-August. Last year he took First place over-all in Regionals, so this year he is racing State Competition. Thus far he is first in over-all points again. In fact he has done so well that a few weeks ago he was invited to compete in a higher division and got a first and second place trophy. This in turn made him eligible for National races. His first will be the week end of July 25. Yes, the same week end of that other National. The race is in the far South West of Michigan in Buchanan. Depending on how well Nathan does in the first few races, we may be packing up Saturday afternoon. Since Buchanan is relatively close to Chicago, I might could make the swap on Saturday night. However, the way #16 has been placing so far, it's a long shot. Speaking of long, I should end this now, except there is one more item I should mention. My web-tv unit has reached capacity and my spouse has finally convinced me to get a "real computer". The thought of all that that will entail is rather over whelming given my serious lack of tech type skills. A major reason for the change over is that I have no available space to save messages and photos or most importantly, to expand on the DZK Memorial web page. Subsequently I have not been able to create the e-News Letter for the foundation we set up to send kids to Hockey Camp. As most of you know via your generous donations, OBC was most instrumental in getting the Foundation started. As a brief up-date we sent our first child, Raymond Hall, to U of M camp last August and will be selecting another child in a few weeks for this years camp. We had a Hockey Tournament all set up for this past January, however one of the teams turned out to be ineligible and we had to cancel. We are setting up another tournament for October, this time experience has taught us to do better research regarding team & player applications. Since Dustin was also a hockey zebra, we will be sending a child to Reffing School this fall as well. I will keep up with OBC as best I can. I'm not sure when the transition will take place, so if anyone tries to contact me at my current address, and I don't respond you can send a message via Phyllis at PZold@yahoo.com. Meanwhile, as the Happenings sang back in the day, I will "See You in September". I'll sign off for now. Without looking, does anyone know what group did the original song in 1959. (A test for the few OBCers who read this far.) "We keep what we give away" ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:17:02 EDT To: Originaleek@webtv.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: larrygers@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Summer Sabbatical I believe it was the Tempos in 1959 **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:37:08 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: First roster update Ok kids here is the first installment of the National 2008 roster. Let me know if you are going and help me fill in all the pertinent information. I'm still waiting to see if Steve is going to rent a Uhaul and make it this year to **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:04:48 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, national From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-National] First roster update Thanks, Sal. Anyone swing a good hotel room deal yet? That's the only detail I see missing from most entries. Just looking at airline tickets now... ----- Original Message ---- From: "ChicoD1@aol.com" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:37:08 PM Subject: [OBC-National] First roster update Ok kids here is the first installment of the National 2008 roster. Let me know if you are going and help me fill in all the pertinent information. I'm still waiting to see if Steve is going to rent a Uhaul and make it this year to Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:15:12 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Massimo" Subject: Why is this card so hard to get, 1965 #449? Is there something about this card that I dont know about that is making it so hard to get? 1965 #449 would seem to be just a common card of two Mets rookies (Jerry Hinsley and Gary Kroll) who never made it, yet I cannot find this card even at a slightly inflated price. Is there something that I am missing? ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:26:07 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Why is this card so hard to get, 1965 #449? Dean's Cards $4.50 in VG, $2.25 in G ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Massimo To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:15:12 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Why is this card so hard to get, 1965 #449? Is there something about this card that I dont know about that is making it so hard to get? 1965 #449 would seem to be just a common card of two Mets rookies (Jerry Hinsley and Gary Kroll) who never made it, yet I cannot find this card even at a slightly inflated price. Is there something that I am missing? ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:04:41 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: That seller also has Beatles cards for sale --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Codere > Tom, Dean's Cards $4.50 in VG, $2.25 in G That seller also has a lot of the Beatles Black and White and color cards for sale for those collecting those: http://www.deanscards.com/_c501_723.html ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:34:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obc_spike" Subject: Question about Collins-McCarthy (E135) authenticity Hi all, Recently picked up my first E135, a #5, from the Beckett marketplace and one aspect of the card surprised me. On the plus side, it seems the right measurements (for slightly is on thin stock, and blank back (which I understand can happen with E135s). The odd part is a plasticy gloss on the front, which seems over-the-top for a 1917 card. I hoped Oldcardboard's description of the set would clear it up, but it's not very detailed. Don't know why anyone would fake a common, but suppose it could've come from a cut-up reprint sheet. What do people think? (The scan's in grayscale, so looks darker and lower- quality than the image really is.) http://obcspike.50megs.com/type/1917_e135.jpg ================= To: Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:24:37 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: 35% of on Ebay Buy it Nows You might want to check this out. I heard about in on the Net54 board and it looks legit. 1) Go here: http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=lego+table 2) At the top, in the gray box, should be a link that says "you may get 35% with Paypal if eligible." If you don't see that link, search for something else that is often found on ebay. 3) Upon following the link, you will be sent to ebay, and can then search for anything you like. The filters are already set to only show BIN items. 4) Once you find what you want, click the BIN> button. You will get to confirm before you commit. 5) On the confirmation page, MAKE SURE IT SHOWS THE REFUND AMOUNT. If so, finish up and pay with Paypal. The refund, 35% of the BIN up to $250, should appear later in your Paypal account, but after your purchase, you must sign up with the cashback program https://cashbackaccount.search.live.com/cashback/welcome.aspx (which happens to be currently bombarded and slow) ebay terms are here: http://pages.ebay.com/cashbackoffer/terms.html Here's the full post http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1213667773/last-1213674382/Craz ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:16:17 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Available: 1950s Chicago Cubs team issue Back in the 1940s and 1950s, Chicago released packs of black and white player photos. I came across one of Louie Novikoff. It's got some corner damage and glue spots on the back. Is there a Cubbies fans out there who'd like it? Please include your address for fastest turnaround! ================= To: obc_spike@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:21:29 -0400 From: mma3026559@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about Collins-McCarthy (E135) authenticity The high gloss would bother me as well. E-135's have a track record of being one of the hobby's earliest counterfeits. They were first reproduced in 1972 by the notorious Janet Hellein of Newark, Delaware. Several players (common & star) were forged with a variety of backs. During the 80's & 90's other deceptive reproductions began circulating. An original Collins style card should have a light gloss on the front and the reverse stock is like an E-121. -----Original Message----- From: obc_spike To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 3:34 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Question about Collins-McCarthy (E135) Hi all, Recently picked up my first E135, a #5, from the Beckett marketplace and one aspect of the card surprised me. On the plus side, it seems the right measurements (for slightly trimmed), is on thin stock, and blank back (which I understand can happen with E135s). The odd part is a plasticy gloss on the front, which seems over-the-top for a 1917 card. I hoped Oldcardboard's description of the set would clear it up, but it's not very detailed. Don't know why anyone would fake a common, but suppose it could've come from a cut-up reprint sheet. What do people think? (The scan's in grayscale, so looks darker and lower- quality than the image really is.) http://obcspike.50megs.com/type/1917_e135.jpg ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:56:36 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: need one cocco puff I need only 1 each #28 fleer cocco puff harlem globetrotters card to ice the Any help? Anthony Arbeeny ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:09:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: OBC on ebay This lot caught my attention tonight. I was searching some 59 Ted Williams set lots. The title reads: 1950s 60s Topps Fleer Lot Ted Williams Maris Spahn OBC I have never seen "OBC" in the title of a lot. It is definitely an OBC lot, so the seller must know us, or maybe is one of us. Here is the link (I hope this works) http://cgi.ebay.com/1950s-60s-Topps-Fleer-Lot-Ted-Williams-Maris-Spahn- ================= To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:01 -0400 From: Jeff Delott Subject: 1957 Colavito Excluding check lists, my 1957 WL is down below ten.? I have an off grade Colavito if anyone has a Bunning to trade.? ?Jeffrey Delott ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:59:27 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Speaking of OBC on eBay, item 300233267696... This lot includes five beat-up 33 Goudeys and one from 34, currently at about $6. Does someone need these in OBC land? ----- Forwarded Message ---- VINTAGE 30'S BASEBALL CARD LOT OF 6 POOR CONDITION .... ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:35:24 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Anybody want to go to a Nats game? Have 1 or 2 extra tix for the friday and sat Nationals games Anybody interested? (Let me know if you'd like one or two and which game you'd like to attend). Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays youback! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkwformMIJAAF/publHMTGL/creaearncashback ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:40:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Any info on 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976? Does anyone have any of the cards from or any information on a 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976 by JDM/JMC? Who put out these cards? What does JDM/JMC stand for. Help! (Mike Rich) ================= To: , Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:14:20 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any info on 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976? You don't suppose those are from "Jimmy Dean Meats," do you? I don't remember if they were putting out cards that long ago, but I know used to try tochase a few cards that were promo's in selected packages of their products. I'm sure a few of them are sitting around here somewhere ... ... ... I'll see if I can find some copyright dates. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any info on 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976? Does anyone have any of the cards from or any information on a 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976 by JDM/JMC? Who put out these cards? What does JDM/JMC stand for. Help! (Mike Rich) ================= To: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:40:41 -0400 From: mma3026559@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Any info on 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in -----Original Message----- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:40 am Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Any info on 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976? The sets were put out by two Kansas City area collectors , Jim Cumpton & John Mehlin. If memory serves it was released at the Overland Park show which the pair promoted. Does anyone have any of the cards from or any information on a 1955 Rodeo Meat Commemorative set issued in 1976 by JDM/JMC? Who put out these cards? What does JDM/JMC stand for. Help! (Mike Rich) ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:21:44 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com,uvlist@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: pardon the (uv) interruption Sorry to bother, but I will make it quick. I'm not sure that I even asked before, but, if you are new (or old and just missed it) I get topps baseball boxes cheap ($42) and pass them on at cost to guys here in OBC who still like to open packs and complete new sets. I just got the '08 series II boxes and I have 8 left unspoken for. The shipping is getting expensive.. about $8-$9 for one box, $12 for two :( So, if you want one, let me know. I can't wait too long before putting them up on evilbay. Now, back to your regularly scheduled (old) cardboard. Go OBC! ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:15:48 EDT To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Roster inserted in email Some of you guys haven't been able to open the excel attachment, so hopefully you can read it here. Let me know if there are any problems. Fill in the blanks on any info I am missing via email. Name Cell Phone Hotel Fri Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Yes Yes M-Su Kent Goto 618-910-9354 Yes M-Su Gary Mandell 773-547-2112 Yes Yes Th,Sa Mike Mroz 586-596-2776 Intercontinental No No Fri,Sa Mike Rich 248-709-2235 Yes Fri-Su Mark Talbot 586-306-6033 Yes Sa-Su Larry Gersbach 513-310-0195 Mooching off his daughter :-) No Yes Fr-Sa Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 TBA Fr-Sa **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= To: "vct" , Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:00:27 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1976 -77 push Looking for a jump on this basketball set: 1976-77 second set vg up #2,13,23,25,50(barry),54,57(walton),70,81,82,85,90(havlicek),109,123,124,130(maraich),140(mcadoo) I have the following to trade: 1976-77 topps #3,5,7,8,12,15,18,26,27,28,33,35,46, 51,52,53,62,63,84,92,94(issel),95,102,106,112,115,117,120(hayes),128,129,131,134,139 ,141,142 this includes several unlisted stars & AS cards anthony arbeeny ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:59:32 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Huggins and Scott Auction I just opened my Huggins and Scott catalog that arrived in today's mail. Lot number 1 is a complete run of Topps cards from 1951-2008 in lesser condition with an opening bid of $2500. Since these are in OBC condition, I thought many of you might enjoy following the bidding. www.hugginsand scott.com. Take care, ================= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:15:51 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Pre war set finished after 31 years When I was 15, my god father gave me a 41 Play Ball Bill Dickey. Today I got a Pee Wee Reeese from ebay to complete the set. 31 Years, not too bad!!! Bob Donaldson ================= To: obcbobd@gmail.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:06:13 -0400 From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre war set finished after 31 years congrats...I know how great it is to complete a 1941 Playball set . The set is beautiful! -----Original Message----- From: Bob Donaldson To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 5:15 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre war set finished after 31 years When I was 15, my god father gave me a 41 Play Ball Bill Today I got a Pee Wee Reeese from ebay to complete the set.? 31 Years, not too bad!!! Bob Donaldson ================= To: Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:12:36 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Re:Pre war set finished after 31 years Dear Bob et al I'm on a slightly longer quest of 51 years and counting. I got my one and only 41PB of Max West in 1957. I'm down to just needing one card - some guy named Joe. George Vrechek ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Donaldson" Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:08:37 -0400 From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pre war set finished after 31 years Congrats, Bob!!! It is a really beautiful set that you will enjoy for a long On Sat Jun 21 20:15 , "Bob Donaldson" sent: >When I was 15, my god father gave me a 41 Play Ball Bill >Today I got a Pee Wee Reeese from ebay to complete the set. >31 Years, not too bad!!! >Bob Donaldson ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:44:03 -0700 (PDT) To: Steve Caggeso , Bob Colgan , From: Terry Dietrick Subject: Pirate/ Yankee Tickets Available June 25th Hi, I bought 2 tickets to the game and now can't use them. I would like to sell them for what I paid for them, $26.00 for both. If you are interested in going to the game and since tickets are sold out, I am offering them to you before I list them on ebay Monday morning. I will only list them for 24hours. But you have first shot. LMK if you want them ASAP! ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:11:24 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: ebay "Buy It Now" bargains There's a dealer on ebay called csacards3. If you go to his "store" then search for the word "hole", you'll find the following cards on offer, each ofwhich have a small punchhole in them butin otherwise very good shape. 1960 Aparicio AS #559 $6 1960 Mays AS #564 $20 1958 #288 Killebrew $20 1954T #32 Snider $30 1956 #332 Larsen $10 1958 #476 Musial AS (1) $8 1958 #476 Musial AS (2) $9 1958 #482 Banks AS $10 1958 #488 Aaron AS $12 1955T #4 Kaline $15 Some big names at small prices there! I've bought a few of these "punch hole" cards from this guy and can vouch for their condition. ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:10:40 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Image needed No, I'm not looking for a makeover, although I'm sure that many of my friends think I should be...... Can anyone in OBCLand provide me with a good hi-res image of a 1962 Norm Cash Baseball Buck? Jpg or Gif format would be great. It's the only item in my Top 30 List which isn't featured in my little scrolling animation. Fingers crossed that someone can come through! ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:40:10 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-National@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: IMPORTANT- National info Ok boys, I need a little help here. I need to know who is going to be attending the Cubs game that Friday afternoon and how many tickets we have in the till as of now. I may have a connection that can get us more tickets, but I need some accurate counts. So, if anyone has tickets for this game for the OBC crowd, let me know (and who they are promised to) and if you are interested in going to the game. I just want to make sure that everyone who wants to go can get in. I need this info ASAP so I can see how many tickets (if any) my friend can get a hold of. PS and our very own UnkPhil will be attending the National (his email is on this note). Many of you older OBCers know of Phil and Dave H. gave us some reminiscing from an article he wrote for Phil's newsletter (HOW MANY?) years **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:51:30 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: cubs tix for national - friday, august 1 hi all: last time i tried this, everyone wanted at least 2 tix, and i am trying to spread these around. i have 4 seats to this game. tix are just to the third base side of home plate in the 6th row of the upper deck (very close to the snack bar). they are $55 each, if you are interested in a single seat, i am trying to get tix to 4 individuals. it is unlikely single tix are available at this point, although scalpers, brokers, stub hub, eBay, etc. will always have them if you are interested, plmk ASAP Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:33:26 EDT To: senthi@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need one cocco puff And I am only missing #9 to finish it off. Mike Rich In a message dated 6/18/08 9:57:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, senthi@earthlink.net writes: > need only 1 each #28 fleer cocco puff harlem globetrotters card to ice the Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:56:37 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Housley" Subject: Please welcome our newest member of OBC The OBCAC has voted to accept our newest member of OBC - John Stamper. To the gurus of the on-line magic, please add John to the OBC database & set him up to receive mailings from Thanks, Ramblings, & Until his data is posted, here is John's contact information: John Stamper 7161 Darnoch Way West Hills California 91307 E-mail john@holidayandhobbies.com Web Page URL http://www.holidayandhobbies.com Work Phone 818-974-9591 Home Phone 818-974-9591 John's mentor was picked by a highly secretive scientific method, known as "blindly picking among the 3 kind OBC'ers who volunteered." Thanks to this complicated procedure, John's mentor is George Vrechek. (TJ & Bama, thanks for volunteering also, & you guys are on the top of the list for the next rookies.) Please welcome John in the traditional way. ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:00:53 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: 1962 Reniff Variation I've just taken delivery of a 1962 #139 Hal Reniff pitching variation. What I hadn't realised was that I'd picked up the green tint version (I'm assuming that there is a NON-green version!). Now, I'm not working on the green tints so I'm not sure if this one is rarer than its non-green counterpart. If it is, though, and any of you are in need of it, I'd be happy to trade it straight up for a non-green version of the same card. Just drop me an email if you'd like to work this one out! ================= To: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:44:56 -0400 From: Mac Wubben Subject: Need a pre-war goal Ever since finishing off the t201's and t205's, I have been without focus in my collecting. Many of you like to collect everything, but I've always had the most fun when I focus on a few things at a time. The OPC baseball occupies my post-war collecting, but I cannot find a quest to motivate me onthe pre-war side. Anybody what to weigh in on what I should set my sightson? Here are some leading contenders...and the +/- of each. I've sort of amassed these for a while. The set has a lot going for it...not too popular, great pictures and backs...and factory variations for the obsessed. The cards are readily available...and the top Cobbs are attainable. (I may have just convinced myself) I'll have to do all the T's eventually...and I like the looks of these. Availability and short-prints make it tough to complete. I did get the Weaver and the Speaker, so a couple biggies are out of the way. Still, I've alway preferred HOF'ers to commons, and there are a lot of commons in this set. T205 Subsets The t205 set was a lot of fun...I've thought about doing a subset or two. Two possibilities I've thought of...a non-common set or a HOF set. I stillhave a bunch of dupe HOF'ers...but don't want to buy another Cobb. T206 Subsets Same thing with the 6's. I've thought of doing either a one of each attainable HOF'er set, or a parallel Southern League set (or maybe a master set with all three back types). Alternatively, I could do a back set...649 overstrike or something like that. It's been too long since I've landed a pileof B18 Blankets Kind of hard to find...and there is a shoeless joe. Plus nobody seems to work on this set. Likely, I'll continue to gather them. Type Set. I keep thinking that I should work on a type set, but never quite get to it. It seems more fun to learn all about one set than just having examples from a bunch of sets you don't know much about. Still, there are some pretty neat cards out there. For a while, I was going to focus on the 30's...but couldn't quite manage it. Thoughts or suggestions? The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?sourceTXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:31:26 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: 1962 Reniff Variation I knew about the various pose and numbering variations, I just wasn't sure about the greenie side of things. If you're saying that there is no non-green version of the pitching pose, then I guess I'm happy with what I've got - which by the way means that my "1962T Reniff Collection" is now complete (#159 Portrait, #139 Portrait, and #139 Pitching). On the subject of my collecting greenies, somewhere out in California Geordie Calvert is trying to stifle his /........just a thought....is #159 Reniff available in a green tint? ----- Original Message ---- From: Tom Housley To: Glenn Codere Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:19:36 PM Subject: Re: 1962 Reniff Variation Hi Glenn, The 1962 Reniff cards are a royal headache. There are indeed two different Reniff variations numbered 139 (to go along with the ONE Renifgf card numbered 159)- but they are different poses. There is the "portrait" pose, and the "pitching" pose. If memory serves, the pitching pose has the green tint, but there is no corresponding non- green version of that pose. So, if you're working on 1962 variations other than the green tints, you can consider this as just a pose variation. But, why do you resist the sweet, sweet lure of collecting greenies? C'mon - it's fun! And, I've got all of the greenies scanned side-by- side with their non-greenie counterparts, so you can have a reference when you go greenie hunting! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Codere > Guys, > I've just taken delivery of a 1962 #139 Hal Reniff pitching variation. What I hadn't realised was that I'd picked up the green tint version (I'm assuming that there is a NON-green version!). > Now, I'm not working on the green tints so I'm not sure if this one is rarer than its non-green counterpart. If it is, though, and any of you are in need of it, I'd be happy to trade it straight up for a non- green version of the same card. > Just drop me an email if you'd like to work this one out! > Glenn ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben From: Geno Wagner Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a pre-war goal Mac -- I sort of came to the same problem when I finished my T205 set. I love that set, but didn't know where to go from there. When I picked up a few T202s, I realized the reason I liked them so much was the text on the back. The T202s are even better for that, since the middle panel is a short story as well! I've since put the T205 variations on my wantlist and willprobably start trying to accumulate different backs. I figure I can entertain myself for years with those two sets! As far as the others, I would probably go with the T207s, just because theyare different. Maybe a Cubs (or insert team) T206 set, or potentially one of the Caramel sets. Ever since I narrowed down my interests, I've found I enjoy the cards more. I was looking at a Mastro catalog and saw a Browns team photo and noticed the guys like Laporte, Wallace, and Pelty, just because I collect their cards in the T202 set. Reading books about the era also gives them more flavor since I can picture those guys. When Ihad binders from all years/sets, I would never have looked twice at a picture of Barney Pelty - it's just more interesting now. I'm not sure what my point was, but I think it's that everyone has their collecting niche, and you'll know it when you find it! That being said, ifyou go with T207s, send me all your T202s (hee hee)... Take Care, --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Mac Wubben wrote: From: Mac Wubben Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a pre-war goal To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 1:44 PM Ever since finishing off the t201's and t205's, I have been without focus in my collecting. Many of you like to collect everything, but I've alwayshad the most fun when I focus on a few things at a time. The OPC baseball occupies my post-war collecting, but I cannot find a quest to motivate me on the pre-war side. Anybody what to weigh in on what I should set my sights on? Here are some leading contenders.. .and the +/- of each. I've sort of amassed these for a while. The set has a lot going for it...not too popular, great pictures and backs...and factory variations for theobsessed. The cards are readily available... and the top Cobbs are attainable. (I may have just convinced myself) I'll have to do all the T's eventually.. .and I like the looks of these.Availability and short-prints make it tough to complete. I did get the Weaver and the Speaker, so a couple biggies are out of the way.Still,I've alway preferred HOF'ers to commons, and there are a lot of commons inthis T205 Subsets The t205 set was a lot of fun...I've thought about doing a subset or two. Two possibilities I've thought of...a non-common set or a HOF set. Istill have a bunch of dupe HOF'ers...but don't want to buy another Cobb. T206 Subsets Same thing with the 6's. I've thought of doing either a one of each attainable HOF'er set, or a parallel Southern League set (or maybe a master setwith all three back types). Alternatively, I could do a back set...649 overstrike or something like that. It's been too long since I'velanded a pile of t206's. B18 Blankets Kind of hard to find...and there is a shoeless joe. Plus nobody seems toworkon this set. Likely, I'll continue to gather them. Type Set. I keep thinking that I should work on a type set, but never quite get to it. It seems more fun to learn all about one set than just having examplesfrom a bunch of sets youdon't know much about. Still, there are somepretty neat cards out there. For a while, I was going to focus on the 30's...but couldn't quite manage it. Thoughts or suggestions? The i=A2m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. Learn ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Mac Wubben Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:52:16 -0400 From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need a pre-war goal I'd suggest 1933 Canadian Goudeys. That'll keep you occupied for a few years and you can send me the 11 I need to finish the English only backs. On Tue Jun 24 14:44 , Mac Wubben sent: >Ever since finishing off the t201's and t205's, I have been without focus in my collecting. Many of you like to collect everything, but I've always had the most fun when I focus on a few things at a time. The OPC baseball occupies my post-war collecting, but I cannot find a quest to motivate me on the pre-war side. Anybody what to weigh in on what I should set mysights on? Here are some leading contenders...and the +/- of each. >I've sort of amassed these for a while. The set has a lot going for it...not too popular, great pictures and backs...and factory variations for the obsessed. The cards are readily available...and the top Cobbs are attainable. (I may have just convinced myself) >I'll have to do all the T's eventually...and I like the looks of these.Availability and short-prints make it tough to complete. I did get the Weaver and the Speaker, so a couple biggies are out of the way.Still,I've alway preferred HOF'ers to commons, and there are a lot of commons inthis >T205 Subsets >The t205 set was a lot of fun...I've thought about doing a subset or two. Two possibilities I've thought of...a non-common set or a HOF set. Istill have a bunch of dupe HOF'ers...but don't want to buy another Cobb. >T206 Subsets >Same thing with the 6's. I've thought of doing either a one of each attainable HOF'er set, or a parallel Southern League set (or maybe a master set with all three back types). Alternatively, I could do a back set...649overstrike or something like that. It's been too long since I'velanded a pile of t206's. >B18 Blankets >Kind of hard to find...and there is a shoeless joe. Plus nobody seems to workon this set. Likely, I'll continue to gather them. >Type Set. >I keep thinking that I should work on a type set, but never quite get to it. It seems more fun to learn all about one set than just having examples from a bunch of sets youdon't know much about. Still, there are some pretty neat cards out there. For a while, I was going to focus on the 30's...but couldn't quite manage it. >Thoughts or suggestions? >The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. Learn ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:27:53 EDT To: dugouttraders@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: ebay snipe i am curious as to what website people use to place ebay snipe bids. please let me know if the one you use has a free trial period and what the costs are once the trial is over. finally, if there are any snipe sites where you are not satisfied with the service. Gary Mandell 3930 North Pine Grove Avenue # 3108 Chicago, IL 60613-5518 Member: OBC, OCT, DT, TB **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:43:49 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Would anyone want to bid with me and split a lot n the Huggins and Scott auction I just got the Higgins and Scott auction catalog. Would any one want to go halves with me and split the cost on lot # 833? Also I am not a registered bidder with them so I would need someone who is to make the bid for me and themselves. I would pay for half the cost of the lot plus shipping and buyers premium. ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:16:59 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: biggies@aol.com Subject: T206 oddity I thought some of you might find this one interesting: _http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-CY-YOUNG-GHOST-MULTI-OVERSTRIKE-REV-PSA_W0 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-CY-YOUNG-GHOST-MULTI-OVERSTRIKE-REV-PSA_W0QQitemZ120273642809QQihZ002QQcategoryZ31718QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:08:42 EDT To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: National Update Here's where we are so far. We need about 9 total tickets and we have 4 (Gary, let me know if those 4 have names attached to them yet). Probably looking at needed 12 or so total. If anyone has a handle on any tickets, let me know. Personally, I'm not too worried about the price (but I don't want to cut myself from finishing my 60T set either), as long as we can get everyone in to Wrigley. Attached and inserted is the latest roster. Help me fill in the blanks and there is still time for anyone to join us. I can tell you rookies, this is a blast. You get to meet your lifelong friends. We eat pretty good. We talk baseball. We throw baseball cards at each other. We're going to need some help finding a place to hold the swap session. This was traditionally Ken's job, but marriage has him just a bit busy this year. Best/Worst memory of a National: During the swap session, Ken would always hold an auction of cards. Some were giveaways, some were just plain great deals that he found and passed over to us. Well, I think it was the last Chicago, Ken comes up with a Green tint (keep in mind, I was only worried about Blue and Red bastards at the time). With a devilish grin, he stares at me and some unknown power forces me to jump on that card. Hence the beginning of my green tint collection (I used to like that guy in the funny hat LOL). Well since I have most of the run, I may actually start the 62T set at the National if I can get some deals. We'll have to pick up the slack for Ken (that's some big emails to fill!). We are down to a month away, so let me know what your status is so I can send another updated roster! Name Cell Phone Hotel Fri Game Swap Session Days There Sal Domino 516-238-8070 Yes Yes M-Su Kent Goto 618-910-9354 Yes Yes M-Su Gary Mandell 773-547-2112 Yes Yes Th,Sa Mike Mroz 586-596-2776 Intercontinental No No Fri,Sa Mike Rich 248-709-2235 No Yes Fri-Su Mark Talbot 586-306-6033 Yes Sa-Su Larry Gersbach 513-310-0195 Mooching off his daughter :-) No Yes Fr-Sa Spike Glidden 508-472-9915 TBA Yes+2 Yes Fr-Sa TJ Valacak 847-927-9971 Home No Maybe Th-Sa JS Gray 847-699-6300Hotel Sheraton Gateway Yes+1 Yes Fr-Sa Mike Wierzbicki Yes George Vrechek Home Phil Chiemelewski **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 03:23:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bill Ashton" Subject: Waiver Wire Just got home from vacation where I picked up some items to give away; 1952 Bowman Football #11 Barney Poole 1955 Johnston Cookies #3 Jim Pendleton 1965 Philadelphia Football #198 Checklist No. 2 1980 Topps Basketball 3 Cards in one; #237 Ron Boone, #18 Magic Johnson checklist, #178 Maurice Cheeks FCFS- Good luck! Bill Ashton ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:27:50 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1979 opc starer set 86,81,79,75,74,69,68,67,64,62,60,54,47,39,36,35,28,25,23,13,12,7,5(morgan as),4,3 anthony arbeeny ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:24:18 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC Ramblings From: Geno Wagner Subject: Calling my IT help! OBCers -- Are there any IT masters who can help my with a Windows XP quandry? I rebooted my computer this morning and when it got to the blue screen where you log in under whichever profile you want, I clicked mine as usual. It went to my desktop background momentarily, then logged me out and put me back on the profile page. I have no way to log in that I can tell. I tried the F8 button to see if Safe Mode might work, but struck out there as well. Any help before I hunt down my "factory settings" disc? Take Care, ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:14:49 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bill Ashton" Subject: Waiver Wire #2 More cards for your consideration; 1954 Topps #18 1955 Topps #81, #134 1957 Topps #379 1958 Topps #78, #283 1960 Topps #33 Good luck again! Bill Ashton ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:35:37 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: FOOT area show w/Mike Sandles Mike Sandles e-mailed me that he set up at the Wednesday show last week adn will do so again this week. He said he has some Post shortprints, although he did not say which year(s), that he was trying to hold back for FOOT members and not some new person that has not supported him in the past. I will try and make there for the last hour (translation from 6 - 7). Save me some of the 63 sp's!!! Let me know if you plan on attending and I will try and pull a "how ya doin" package if time permits. Mike also stated that he did not think he would be setting up at the scheduled Redford show on August 24 as there is a bigger Cinci area show he will attend. Mike Rich ================= To: oct thanks , Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:06:55 +0000 From: John Scott Gray Subject: Need 75 Topps Minis? My friends, As I was taking a little break from a couple of projects I am working on, Isorted a group of 1975 Topps minis I picked up at a card store a couple ofmonths ago. It turned out that I had a few dupes, so if anyone needs any of these, send your name and address my way. As with most of my cards, these are mostly lower-grade (these are roughly g/vg, some better and some worse). Be happy, John Scott Gray 36, 37, 99, 249, 397, 305, 332, 337, 348, 365, 391, 402, 406, 431, 432, 468, 478, 482, 488, 496, 521, 524, 538, 543, 592. ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:09:11 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikerw7" Subject: I think this is funny. Painful, too. But funny. http://www.theonion.com/content/news/mlb_credits_hank_aaron_with_50 ================= To: "Joe Isaac" , Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:22:51 -0600 From: "Walker" Subject: IDEA - - - Re: [OBC-Announcements] June report I have an idea for the next OBCAC "meeting." Our "Who Collects What" is a slick little way for anyone and everyone to simply click, look, and see whohas wants from any given set. (Sweet database set up, web guru's!!!) I love the idea that even the general public can surf in, find my wants, and contact me. Call it luck; call it skill and determination, but in just the few years since I've been a member of OBC, I've had several non-members contact me about a trade, simply because they "found my wants on the OBC web site." Way Kewl. So, my question, and idea, is this: Why is the "Who Collects What" link, sort of "hidden" under the "OBC Specials" link? Why not have the who collects what as THE, very next link, on the "left nav." bar, right under "OBC Home?" So, when a potential card trader surfs in, they find this way cool web sitethat they stumbled upon, and one of the first things they see when they first reach the home page, is our left navigation bar, and right under "home," is, yes, "Who Collects What." My thinking is that if they are surfing the net about cards, they are either looking for information, or else they are looking for buddies to trade with, and if they're looking to swap, they'll go right to our who collects what page, to see if anyone is looking to trade for the same sets/cards that they are looking for. Sheesh, instead of the pretty purple blue, why not even highlight that linkin "catch your eye" yellow or something like that? ... just an idea, because, if I'm a newbie to our web site, "OBC Specials" is NOT where I would expect to find, or look for, the slick listing of all of our set wants, and if that link was a very visible, prominent link on our main home page left nav. bar, I'm guessing we could all see a substantialincrease in requests for trades from outsiders, and, eventually, an increase in membership requests, once all those "outsiders" learn how wonderful this group is, they'll want to become a permanent part of it. (... ...can'tthink of a better way to start seeing more cards shipped to my mailbox, "just ... ... ... dang, I hate to sound like a salesperson, looking to make the next commission, but, we are all here for the love of cardboard, right? So,why not make ourselves more available, by making our wants more easily available, and found? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Isaac To: OBC Annoucements Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: [OBC-Announcements] June report There was not much going on with the AC for a second consecutive month. Remember to bring up any thoughts, concerns, etc to the Ramblings server if you think the AC should consider something. Your OBCAC is Andy Cook, Wayne Delia, Joshua Levine, Mike Rich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. The i=92m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. Learn ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:15:15 EDT To: wguthrie@axint.net, jwi62@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] IDEA - - - Re: [OBC-Announcements] June report Content-Language: en look at open page of obc and click on the first icon "what player collect". Is that what you are looking for In a message dated 6/30/2008 1:23:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, wguthrie@axint.net writes: I have an idea for the next OBCAC "meeting." Our "Who Collects What" is a slick little way for anyone and everyone to simply click, look, and see who has wants from any given set. (Sweet database set up, web guru's!!!) I love the idea that even the general public can surf in, find my wants, and contact me. Call it luck; call it skill and determination, but in just the few years since I've been a member of OBC, I've had several non-members contact me about a trade, simply because they "found my wants on the OBC web site." Way Kewl. So, my question, and idea, is this: Why is the "Who Collects What" link, sort of "hidden" under the "OBC Specials" link? Why not have the who collects what as THE, very next link, on the "left nav." bar, right under "OBC Home?" So, when a potential card trader surfs in, they find this way cool web site that they stumbled upon, and one of the first things they see when they first reach the home page, is our left navigation bar, and right under "home," is, yes, "Who Collects What." My thinking is that if they are surfing the net about cards, they are either looking for information, or else they are looking for buddies to trade with, and if they're looking to swap, they'llgo right to our who collects what page, to see if anyone is looking to trade for same sets/cards that they are looking for. Sheesh, instead of the pretty purple blue, why not even highlight that link in "catch your eye" yellow or something like that? ... just an idea, because, if I'm a newbie to our web site, "OBC Specials" is NOT where I would expect to find, or look for, the slick listing of allof our set wants, and if that link was a very visible, prominent link on our main home page left nav. bar, I'm guessing we could all see a substantial increase in requests for trades from outsiders, and, eventually, an increase membership requests, once all those "outsiders" learn how wonderful this group is, they'll want to become a permanent part of it. (... ...can't think ofa better way to start seeing more cards shipped to my mailbox, "just because.") ... ... ... dang, I hate to sound like a salesperson, looking to make the next commission, but, we are all here for the love of cardboard, right? So, why not make ourselves more available, by making our wants more easily available, and found? ----- Original Message ----- From: _Joe Isaac_ (mailto:jwi62@hotmail.com) To: _OBC Annoucements_ (mailto:obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: [OBC-Announcements] June report There was not much going on with the AC for a second consecutive month. Remember to bring up any thoughts, concerns, etc to the Ramblings server if think the AC should consider something. Your OBCAC is Andy Cook, Wayne Delia, Joshua Levine, Mike Rich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. The i=E7=A5 Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves._Learn More_ (http://www.imtalkathon.com/?sourceTXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst) **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncidaolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:25:37 EDT To: LUURSCJG@aol.com, wguthrie@axint.net, jwi62@hotmail.com, From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] IDEA - - - Re: [OBC-Announcements] June report Content-Language: en NEVER MIND i should read all of it before trying to be helpful In a message dated 6/30/2008 8:16:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, LUURSCJG@aol.com writes: look at open page of obc and click on the first icon "what player collect". Is that what you are looking for In a message dated 6/30/2008 1:23:38 A.M. Central Daylight Time, wguthrie@axint.In a messag I have an idea for the next OBCAC "meeting." Our "Who Collects What" is a slick little way for anyone and everyone to simply click, look, and see who has wants from any given set. (Sweet database set up, web guru's!!!) I love the idea that even the general public can surf in, find my wants, and contact me. Call it luck; call it skill and determination, but in just the few years since I've been a member of OBC, I've had several non-members contact me about a trade, simply because they "found my wants on the OBC web site." Way Kewl. So, my question, and idea, is this: Why is the "Who Collects What" link, sort of "hidden" under the "OBC Specials" link? Why not have the who collects what as THE, very next link, on the "left nav." bar, right under "OBC Home?" So, when a potential card trader surfs in, they find this way cool web site that they stumbled upon, and one of the first things they see when they first reach the home page, is our left navigation bar, and right under "home," is, yes, "Who Collects What." My thinking is that if they are surfing the net about cards, they are either looking for information, or else they are looking for buddies to trade with, and if they're looking to swap, they'llgo right to our who collects what page, to see if anyone is looking to trade for same sets/cards that they are looking for. Sheesh, instead of the pretty purple blue, why not even highlight that link in "catch your eye" yellow or something like that? ... just an idea, because, if I'm a newbie to our web site, "OBC Specials" is NOT where I would expect to find, or look for, the slick listing of allof our set wants, and if that link was a very visible, prominent link on our main home page left nav. bar, I'm guessing we could all see a substantial increase in requests for trades from outsiders, and, eventually, an increase membership requests, once all those "outsiders" learn how wonderful this group is, they'll want to become a permanent part of it. (... ...can't think ofa better way to start seeing more cards shipped to my mailbox, "just because.") ... ... ... dang, I hate to sound like a salesperson, looking to make the next commission, but, we are all here for the love of cardboard, right? So, why not make ourselves more available, by making our wants more easily available, and found? ----- Original Message ----- From: _Joe Isaac_ (mailto:jwi62@hotmail.com) To: _OBC Annoucements_ (mailto:obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com) Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: [OBC-Announcements] June report There was not much going on with the AC for a second consecutive month. Remember to bring up any thoughts, concerns, etc to the Ramblings server if think the AC should consider something. Your OBCAC is Andy Cook, Wayne Delia, Joshua Levine, Mike Rich, Mark Talbot, Geno Wagner and Mac Wubben. The i=E7=A5 Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves._Learn More_ (http://www.imtalkathon.com/?sourceTXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst) Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient _used cars_ (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncidaolaut00050000000007) . **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncidaolaut00050000000007) ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:05:36 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: I have seen Remar bread Oakland Oaks cards but what is this? I have seen PCL cards of Oakland Oaks players put out by Remar Bread. Here is a card of an Oakland Oaks player but it was not put out by Remar Bread. What is this? I just picked this card up. I don't know what it is: http://tinyurl.com/4o4gln ================= To: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:33:47 -0400 From: mma3026559@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I have seen Remar bread Oakland Oaks cards but what is Smith's Clothier cards came out in '47 & '48 and featured the Oakland Oaks (PCL) team only. The '47 set is more closely alligned with Remars in that it is printed on a similar stock of paper. In '48, the cards were printed on a higher quality stock of paper with glossy fronts & smooth, bright white backs... -----Original Message----- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 3:05 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] I have seen Remar bread Oakland Oaks cards but what is this? I have seen PCL cards of Oakland Oaks players put out by Remar Bread. Here is a card of an Oakland Oaks player but it was not put out by Remar Bread. What is this? I just picked this card up. I don't know what it is: http://tinyurl.com/4o4gln ================= Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:55:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Rick" Subject: 61 and 62 topps stamp panels Does anyone know if there is a checklist for the complete panels?