================= To: Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:41:32 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Cheapest Colgan's Chip around OBCers -- Check out this Colgan's Chip card! If you are a type collector and want one real cheap, this one is for you! http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-COLGANS-CHIPS-E254-STARS-OF-THE-DIAMOND_W0QQitemZ8802481501QQcategoryZ86841QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Take Care, Geno ================= To: Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:36:47 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: How not to impress your kids OBCers -- So today we are out on the family bike ride and my kids ask me how to pop a wheelie. I made a few feeble attempts, but could come up with nothing very impressive. After a bit of banter back and forth, I decided to show them the old man still has it! I pulled up with all my might and hit the pedals at the same time - the last thing I remember is the front wheel somewhere over my head, the smack of the pavement, followed by my kids standing over me trying to decide if that one counted... I would go into more detail, but this ice pack I'm sitting on is getting a bit cold... Take Care, Geno ================= Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 22:33:22 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Message for Matt Heilenman I tried to e-mail Matt about a card i have for him but his e-mail address,mheilenman@comcast.net,listed for his e-mail address at OBC is not good- I tried to e-mail him but i got the e-mail back with the message, "Returned Mail:user unknown" Here is the message i tried to send you Matt: "Hi Matt- Every Saturday i go to a card shop that has a bid board with a lot of good cards on it.I won a Mike Schmidt card for 25 cents that i bid on because i thought you may not have it- Upper Deck Classic Moments -2005 Upper Deck- Mike Schmidt 500th Home Run 4.18.87-- card #'d 102/1999. Let me know if you want this card and i will send it to you.I thought it might be a Schmidt card you don't have-Linda" ================= To: "obc" Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 18:33:21 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] How not to impress your kids I can see it now......................The English judges......probably gave you 8.5 for "sticking " the landing...... Thx for the visual....on the spill........ Ken Goetsch-OBC ----- Original Message ----- From: "geno.wagner" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:36 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] How not to impress your kids > OBCers -- > So today we are out on the family bike ride and my kids ask me how to pop > wheelie. I made a few feeble attempts, but could come up with nothing > impressive. After a bit of banter back and forth, I decided to show them > the old man still has it! I pulled up with all my might and hit the > at the same time - the last thing I remember is the front wheel somewhere > over my head, the smack of the pavement, followed by my kids standing over > me trying to decide if that one counted... > I would go into more detail, but this ice pack I'm sitting on is getting a > bit cold... > Take Care, Geno > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:27:41 -0700 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: price help does anyone have a guide showing price ofed-u-cards, 1957 basball game? thanks for any help, kit okamuro ================= Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 04:38:49 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Probably biggest lot of 1948 Bowmans ever on ebay There is an unbelieveably large lot of 543!!! yes, five hundred forty three 1948 Bowmans on ebay.Check out ebay # 8804659497.Item description states cards were an inheritance from grandpa.If grandpa had 543 1948 Bowmans then i wonder how many 49,50,51,52,53,54 and 55 bowmans he had. Grandpa must have had a fantastic collection of cards- In this 48 Bowman lot are 13 #36 Stan Musials! I just wonder how many 51 and 52 Bowman Mantles grandpa had!-Linda ================= To: , Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 05:57:19 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Probably biggest lot of 1948 Bowmans ever on ebay OBCers -- I wonder why the person wouldn't show a picture of the whole lot instead ofjust one card? It seems a bit strange to me... Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Probably biggest lot of 1948 Bowmans ever on ebay There is an unbelieveably large lot of 543!!! yes, five hundred forty three 1948 Bowmans on ebay.Check out ebay # 8804659497.Item description states cards were an inheritance from grandpa.If grandpa had 543 1948 Bowmans then i wonder how many 49,50,51,52,53,54 and 55 bowmans he had. Grandpa must have had a fantastic collection of cards- In this 48 Bowman lot are 13 #36 Stan Musials! I just wonder how many 51 and 52 Bowman Mantles grandpa had!-Linda SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:32:05 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Daniel P Coen" Subject: Conflict of Interest Dear all, So, after graduating from law school, I was unable to find legal employment. Well, I finally found a job which pays decently. However, it is managing a baseball card shop. It pays well and I am getting good benefits, but am trying not to spend money on cards while working there. And while I am sure you are all supremely jealous, I feel that in that position, I have a conflict of interest with being an active OBC member. So, unless the OBCAC sees otherwise, I would like to be moved to inactive While processing older stuff, I am setting aside stuff that does not have much retail value, but would be great in some OBC collections. If you have any interest in this stuff, I would be more than happy to type up an occaisional list and send it out to whomever may want it. For now, Dan Coen PS - T.J. the package is still on the way. Don't despair! ================= To: , Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 06:44:31 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Dan -- I don't see how it is a conflict of interest. If you want to be inactive, that's fine, but I don't think anyone would expect you to because you work in a card shop. I think everyone would fine with you remaining an active member. Now if you became a lawyer, that might be different... Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel P Coen To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:32 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Dear all, So, after graduating from law school, I was unable to find legal employment. Well, I finally found a job which pays decently. However, it is managing a baseball card shop. It pays well and I am getting good benefits, but am trying not to spend money on cards while working there. And while I am sure you are all supremely jealous, I feel that in that position, I have a conflict of interest with being an active OBC member. So, unless the OBCAC sees otherwise, I would like to be moved to inactive While processing older stuff, I am setting aside stuff that does not have much retail value, but would be great in some OBC collections. If you have any interest in this stuff, I would be more than happy to type up an occaisional list and send it out to whomever may want it. For now, Dan Coen PS - T.J. the package is still on the way. Don't despair! SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 02:17:33 EDT To: dcoen@willamette.edu, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Umm...when I first joined OBC many many many moons ago I too worked at a baseball card shop and often cherry picked (although that seems like a misnomer) OBC type cards from collections, shows, etc. There is no conflict of interest that I can see. You are doing what you enjoy and paying the bills. I personally have no problem with it at all. PS Of course you can add me to the list of OBC type stuff that walks through your doors. ================= To: , Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 23:13:30 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Dan: I agree with Gino. There are other OBC'ers who deal cards as well (aka "Dealer Scum"). Like Gino said, go inactive if that is what you want todo, but don't let the job influence your decision. By the way, where is this card shop - I'd like to check it out! -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel P Coen To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Dear all, So, after graduating from law school, I was unable to find legal employment. Well, I finally found a job which pays decently. However, it is managing a baseball card shop. It pays well and I am getting good benefits, but am trying not to spend money on cards while working there. And while I am sure you are all supremely jealous, I feel that in that position, I have a conflict of interest with being an active OBC member. So, unless the OBCAC sees otherwise, I would like to be moved to inactive While processing older stuff, I am setting aside stuff that does not have much retail value, but would be great in some OBC collections. If you have any interest in this stuff, I would be more than happy to type up an occaisional list and send it out to whomever may want it. For now, Dan Coen PS - T.J. the package is still on the way. Don't despair! SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "Daniel P Coen" , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 07:15:46 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest I agree with the others - seems more likely that you may gain more expertise and be an even greater asset to the group. You can include me on dealer scum offerings - I've entered into those arrangements with a number of OBC'ers and everyone still lives to tell about it. ;-) BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Daniel P Coen" Dear all, So, after graduating from law school, I was unable to find legal employment. Well, I finally found a job which pays decently. However, it is managing a baseball card shop. It pays well and I am getting good benefits, but am trying not to spend money on cards while working there. And while I am sure you are all supremely jealous, I feel that in that position, I have a conflict of interest with being an active OBC member. So, unless the OBCAC sees otherwise, I would like to be moved to inactive While processing older stuff, I am setting aside stuff that does not have much retail value, but would be great in some OBC collections. If you have any interest in this stuff, I would be more than happy to type up an occaisional list and send it out to whomever may want it. For now, Dan Coen PS - T.J. the package is still on the way. Don't despair! SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 8:13:07 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 1785 This just in from a man who flys jets! Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 16:36:47 +0100 > From: "geno.wagner" > Subject: How not to impress your kids > OBCers -- > So today we are out on the family bike ride and my kids ask me how to pop a > wheelie. I made a few feeble attempts, but could come up with nothing very > impressive. After a bit of banter back and forth, I decided to show them > the old man still has it! I pulled up with all my might and hit the pedals > at the same time - the last thing I remember is the front wheel somewhere > over my head, the smack of the pavement, followed by my kids standing over > me trying to decide if that one counted... > I would go into more detail, but this ice pack I'm sitting on is getting a > bit cold... > Take Care, Geno ================= To: "'Daniel P Coen'" , Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 07:59:24 -0700 From: "Grant" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Like everyone else so far, I fail to see a conflict. Looks more like an opportunity, and I'd also like to be put on that list....and I like the way you put it....."I was unable to find legal employment." Just what is so illegal about running a card shop Dan? Dear all, So, after graduating from law school, I was unable to find legal employment. Well, I finally found a job which pays decently. However, is managing a baseball card shop. It pays well and I am getting good benefits, but am trying not to spend money on cards while working there. And while I am sure you are all supremely jealous, I feel that in that position, I have a conflict of interest with being an active OBC member. So, unless the OBCAC sees otherwise, I would like to be moved to While processing older stuff, I am setting aside stuff that does not much retail value, but would be great in some OBC collections. If you have any interest in this stuff, I would be more than happy to type up occaisional list and send it out to whomever may want it. For now, Dan Coen PS - T.J. the package is still on the way. Don't despair! Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/328 - Release Date: 5/1/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/328 - Release Date: 5/1/2006 ================= Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 11:15:26 EDT To: dcoen@willamette.edu, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: larrygers@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest I too see no conflict with your current employment. I too would be interested in dealer scum. ================= To: "Daniel P Coen" Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 10:21:53 -0500 From: tvalacak@d211.org Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest I am going to join the chorus here. I also do not see a conflict of interest. Ultimately, it's your decision, but I would like to see you stay active. Feel free to add my name to add me to your list. Thanks. "Daniel P Coen" Sent by: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com 05/02/2006 12:32 AM [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest Dear all, So, after graduating from law school, I was unable to find legal employment. Well, I finally found a job which pays decently. However, it is managing a baseball card shop. It pays well and I am getting good benefits, but am trying not to spend money on cards while working there. And while I am sure you are all supremely jealous, I feel that in that position, I have a conflict of interest with being an active OBC member. So, unless the OBCAC sees otherwise, I would like to be moved to inactive While processing older stuff, I am setting aside stuff that does not have much retail value, but would be great in some OBC collections. If you have any interest in this stuff, I would be more than happy to type up an occaisional list and send it out to whomever may want it. For now, Dan Coen PS - T.J. the package is still on the way. Don't despair! Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:20:25 -0400 To: larrygers@aol.com From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest To: dcoen@willamette.edu, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: larrygers@aol.com Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 11:15:26 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Conflict of Interest I too see no conflict with your current employment. I too would be interested in dealer scum. ================= Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 17:14:20 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: Conflict of Interest It looks by the votes your staying and we are added to your dealer scum list I too would like the address after all I am visiting your fair state at the end of June ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 08:34:52 -0700 From: Subject: Dan and his PROBLEM OK, anyone who did NOT ask Dan to be put on his OBC-card list, raise your hand!! That's what I thought - Al, put your arm down.... ================= Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 19:27:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: What happened to Phil Plantier-Red Sox phenom ??? What happened to Phil Plantier?-- the Red Sox phenom of the early 90's who i remember reading was destined to make everyone forget Ted Williams and Yaz?Now that the curse is broken do any Red Sox fans remember Plantier?Have any monuments been built for him at Fenway? My memory of this guy goes back to 1992 and a guy in the card shop on a Saturday when i was bidding on the bid board telling me he would trade me a Plantier rookie card for 2!!!!! Mantle 60's cards.He said he would trade me a Plantier rookie for my 63 & 64 Topps Mantles!! You don't want to hear what i told him then. Speaking of baseball card stores and forgotten Phenoms and other assorted villians i noticed another player from the 90's who has to be the most unpopular player ever.I have heard a few unkind words about Pete Rose and Barry Bonds but there is one player who way surpasses their unpopularity. I base this on i never see any cards of Rose or Bonds defaced-X's or scribbling on their faces on their cards- But everytime i look through the quarter boxes at card stores containing large selections of Jose Canseco cards and others i notice just about every time i see a card by John Rocker there is an X written on his face on the card or his face is scribbled out.I have an insert card of his somewhere without graffiti on it.If card's value were solely based on rarity then an undamaged John Rocker card would be quite valuable- Trouble is no one would buy it- Linda ================= To: "Linda" , Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 21:00:23 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] What happened to Phil Plantier-Red Sox phenom ??? I remember Phil Plantier well. A very unorthodox swing. He had a couple of pretty good years, but I don't think any of us thought he'd be the next Yaz. Definately not worth a Mantle! ================= To: Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:27:41 -0500 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: T205 Info requested -- Part 1 In an attempt to confirm some research by Joshua Levine and myself, I am curious if any T205 collectors might be able to help me with some specific back information. There are 10 cards that I am currently focusing on with this research. The THREE pieces of information I am trying to assemble are 1) the brand information on the back, 2) the factory number and 3) the color of text. Any information would be greatly appreciated and the list of cards are below. Crandall, Otis A [t] not crossed in name Gray, Dolly B stats on back Hoblitzell, Dick A no stats on back Latham, Arlie B [W.A. Latham] on back Moran, P.J. A stray line of type below stats Shean, David B Chicago Suggs, George=09=09 Wallace, Bobby A no cap, one line of 1910 stats Wilhelm, Kaiser A [suffered] in the 18th line of bio Wilhelm, Kaiser B [suffe ed] in the 18th line of bio Any input would be greatly appreciated! ================= Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 04:04:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Re: What happened to Phil Plantier-Red Sox phenom ??? I drafted Phil Plantier in Strat-O-Matic baseball after his first year with the Sox. We had a rule that if a player had a card, he was eligible for the playoofs. I do not remember the year, but Plantier and Ron Karkovice were instrumental in bringing a Strat-O- Matic championship my way. I will always be a fan. I have been having some big time computer issues as of late, so I apologize for being somewhat inactive. I am not able to access Yahoo groups at work, so my home computer is vital for OBC. I had a coworker take a look at the computer tonight, and, so far so good. I am able to surf and able to post. I hope to get some envelopes out this weekend. Be safe --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" > What happened to Phil Plantier?-- the Red Sox phenom of the early > 90's who i remember reading was destined to make everyone forget > Williams and Yaz?Now that the curse is broken do any Red Sox fans > remember Plantier?Have any monuments been built for him at Fenway? > My memory of this guy goes back to 1992 and a guy in the card shop > a Saturday when i was bidding on the bid board telling me he would > trade me a Plantier rookie card for 2!!!!! Mantle 60's cards.He > he would trade me a Plantier rookie for my 63 & 64 Topps Mantles!! > You don't want to hear what i told him then. > Speaking of baseball card stores and forgotten Phenoms and other > assorted villians i noticed another player from the 90's who has > be the most unpopular player ever.I have heard a few unkind words > about Pete Rose and Barry Bonds but there is one player who way > surpasses their unpopularity. > I base this on i never see any cards of Rose or Bonds defaced-X's > scribbling on their faces on their cards- > But everytime i look through the quarter boxes at card stores > containing large selections of Jose Canseco cards and others i > just about every time i see a card by John Rocker there is an X > written on his face on the card or his face is scribbled out.I > an insert card of his somewhere without graffiti on it.If card's > value were solely based on rarity then an undamaged John Rocker > would be quite valuable- Trouble is no one would buy it- Linda ================= To: , Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 00:19:41 -0400 From: "George" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Info requested -- Part 1 Hi Shawn, I have the following cards: Crandall, "t" not crossed (Looks like "Olis") Sweet Cap, 42, red WA Latham (on back) Sweet Cap, 42, red George Suggs Piedmont, 25, black Wilhelm, suffe ed Piedmont, 25, black I have David Shean, Cubs (not David B. Shean) Hassan, 649, black I was not aware that there is a David B. Shean. Do I need to add this to my ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Adkins" To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Info requested -- Part 1 In an attempt to confirm some research by Joshua Levine and myself, I am curious if any T205 collectors might be able to help me with some specific back information. There are 10 cards that I am currently focusing on with this research. The THREE pieces of information I am trying to assemble are 1) the brand information on the back, 2) the factory number and 3) the color of text. Any information would be greatly appreciated and the list of cards are below. Crandall, Otis A [t] not crossed in name Gray, Dolly B stats on back Hoblitzell, Dick A no stats on back Latham, Arlie B [W.A. Latham] on back Moran, P.J. A stray line of type below stats Shean, David B Chicago Suggs, George Wallace, Bobby A no cap, one line of 1910 stats Wilhelm, Kaiser A [suffered] in the 18th line of bio Wilhelm, Kaiser B [suffe ed] in the 18th line of bio Any input would be greatly appreciated! Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 22:42:26 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Daniel P Coen" Subject: Thanks for your support! Due to the overwhelming response, I will stay an active member of OBC. I am excited that you all still want an industry insider around. I am currently moving again (this time from Seattle to Tacoma) and will have limited access to the internet...except at work. The store I am managing is called Northwest Sportscards in Tacoma, Washington. It is owned by Don Knutsen who some of you may know. If not, he is featured in a Beckett article in the issue right after Mantle died. I look forward to exchanging cardboard with you all in the future and seeing you at shows and whatnot. Good luck all. Dan Coen ================= To: "'George'" , Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 06:00:32 -0500 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Info requested -- Part 1 Hi George, Thanks for the info and the letter "B" on the Shean card is a column in my spreadsheet that notes it is variation B as opposed to variation A "Rustlers". The formatting of my email was converted when it went through the mail server, it removed all my tabs which seperated the data into Thanks again for the help, |-----Original Message----- |From: George [mailto:galtemos@suffolk.lib.ny.us] |Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:20 PM |To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Shawn Adkins |Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Info requested -- Part 1 |Hi Shawn, |I have the following cards: |Crandall, "t" not crossed (Looks like "Olis") |Sweet Cap, 42, red |WA Latham (on back) |Sweet Cap, 42, red |George Suggs |Piedmont, 25, black |Wilhelm, suffe ed |Piedmont, 25, black |I have David Shean, Cubs (not David B. Shean) |Hassan, 649, black |I was not aware that there is a David B. Shean. Do I need to |add this to my |----- Original Message ----- |From: "Shawn Adkins" |To: |Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:27 PM |Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Info requested -- Part 1 |In an attempt to confirm some research by Joshua Levine and |myself, I am curious if any T205 collectors might be able to |help me with some specific back information. There are 10 |cards that I am currently focusing on with this research. The |THREE pieces of information I am trying to assemble are |1) the brand information on the back, 2) the factory number |and 3) the color of text. Any information would be greatly |appreciated and the list of cards are below. |Crandall, Otis A [t] not crossed in name |Gray, Dolly B stats on back |Hoblitzell, Dick A no stats on back |Latham, Arlie B [W.A. Latham] on back |Moran, P.J. A stray line of type below stats |Shean, David B Chicago |Suggs, George |Wallace, Bobby A no cap, one line of 1910 stats |Wilhelm, Kaiser A [suffered] in the 18th line of bio |Wilhelm, Kaiser B [suffe ed] in the 18th line of bio |Any input would be greatly appreciated! |------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor |--------------------~--> You can search right from your |browser? It=BFs easy and it=BFs free. See how. |http://us.click.yahoo.com/_|7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/QBiolB/TM |Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 08:54:56 -0700 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "eBay Member: boreed@hotmail.com" Subject: Robert Reed sent you this eBay item: 1964-67 Philadelphia Phillies vintage collectable tiles (#8803955576) obc-boreed sent you this eBay item. Personal message: Interesting Item for those Phillie and Johnny Callison fans out there. View this Item on eBay at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item8803955576&ssPageNameADME:B:EF:US:1 1964-67 Philadelphia Phillies vintage collectable tiles Item number: 8803955576 Seller: arclight88(17) Positive Feedback: 100% Member since Oct-14-04 in United States Current bid: US $54.35 (Reserve met) Time left: 1 days 4 hours 7-day listing Ends May-06-0613:02:24 PDT Item location: Virginia United StatesShips to:United States, Canada You can almost smell the hotdogs from Connie Mack Stadium during the rollercoaster 1964 Philles season.; For sale are four original, mint souvenir tiles from the 1964-67 period.; Each ceramic tile is 6" x 6" and was given outat Connie Mack Stadium during fan appreciation nights.; Each tile is lithographed with one of the Phillies and his signature.; Included in this RARE set is Hall of Fame Pitcher #14, Jim Bunning (the first pitcher to get 100 wins and 1000 strike-outs in both National and American Leagues), ;#15, Richie Allen, the 1964 Rookie of the Year, #6 Johnny Callison, argueably one of the best all round players in Philly history who hit three homeruns in the 14-8 loss to the Braves that ended teh 1964 Cinderella year for Philly. Also is #13 Bobby Wine, winner of the 1963 Gold Glove.; These are orginal fan appreciation tiles in pristine condition, and extremely rare.; They are fragile, so shipping estimates will include insurance and heavy boxed packaging. Prefer shipping to U.S. and Canada only.; Please ask all questions prior to closing and only bid if you are ready to win. Thanks for looking! Protect yourself from Spoof (fake) emails. Learn More at http://pages.ebay.com/education/spooftutorial. You are receiving this email because the sender thought you would be interested in this eBay item. You can report this message as unwanted (spam) email at http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-ov.html. Learn more about spam email at http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-spam-ov.html. As outlined in our User Agreement, eBay will periodically send you information about site changes and enhancements. Visit our Privacy Policy at http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/privacy-policy.html and User Agreement at http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html if you have any questions. Copyright =A9 2006 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. eBay and the eBay logo are trademarks of eBay Inc. ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 03:37:29 +0000 From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Subject: Gremlin alert, gremlin alert! I was going thru my supposedly complete 1979 set and found three holes. Does anyone happen to have: 28 Brye 369 Wills, Rangers 550 Bando ================= Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 08:08:38 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: New Postage Stamps on Baseball Sluggers-Mantle,Campy,Ott,Greenberg The U.S. Postal service plans on releasing four 39 cent stamps this year called Baseball Sluggers and will include Mantle, Campy,Ott and Greenberg.I uploaded pictures of the stamps from a brochure i obtained from the post office which lists stamps to be issued in 2006.You can see the stamps in the Photos section here in an album called "Postage Stamps".I notice that other countries like Grenada have issued stamps of ball players and if any member has any scans of pics of the stamps they could be added to the Postage Stamps photo album.I also recall a Babe Ruth issue by a foreign country.I don't know the date of issue of the Baseball Sluggers as it was not listed in the post office brochure but they are certainly worth looking for.- Linda ================= Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 05:35:49 -0400 To: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com (Linda) From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: Clemente/Rocker/Bonds/Rose/Aaron/Kingman/ D. Allen /Howe/ Dick Z I think I still have a Roberto Clemente USPS stamp from the late 70s or maybe early 80s. I think I picked up some Grenada stamps in the late 90s at Big Lots and Clemente was in there too. BTW, I'll take all those defaced Rocker cards you see Linda :-) Maybe someone defaced 3 of them & you keep seeing the same 3 at the local card shop every time you go back? You said nobody would buy them, not true, I'll give a penny each! But seriously, maybe my perspective is tilted being in GA but I've never heard of anyone defacing a Rocker card and other than NYM and NYY fans I think only a few would boo him if he played today in MLB. Stop Rocker at a mall & ask for his autograph. There's a very good chance you will get one. He is VERY well liked here in GA by MANY fans! BTW, I was and still am a Canseco fan. I do think however that they are 2 of the top 10 most hated of all time along with Bonds and "maybe" Palmeiro and "maybe" Dave Kingman (esp if reporters are asked). Would Dick Allen be in there guys? I wouldn't be suprised if Hank Aaron was in that top 10 too based on all the hate mail he got back in 73, especially if you are polling senior citizens from the general public, instead of fans at a vintage card show. Bottom line is some guys would make BOTH the Top 10 FAV and Top 10 LEAST FAV, like Pete Rose & Barry Bonds for example. http://www.JohnRocker.net He'll be on Spike TV May 15th at 10PM EDT by the way. He has a book due out soon that explains his comments in SI. He states his views are/were politically motivated. That is what he said on the TV show BIG IDEA a few months ago. AFAIK nobody mentioned the death of Steve Howe a few days ago (car wreck I think). Thumbs up to OBC friendly GA dealer Dick Zimmerman! He sent about 5 Ollie Browns and 4 very decent condiion Braves cards from the late 50s, all for just $2 cash and that includes shipping! He even said he'd mail the cards first and for me to send $2 to the addy on his biz card! Thanks goes to Steve Rittenberg for the tip on DZ. And Steve I mentioned you had let me know about him, plus I know at least 5 others in OBC emailed him after your email tip, so thanks! And last but SHIRLEY not least, thanks goes out to Aaron Shirley for 2 Jim Nash 1973 Topps cards and several UM (unmentionable) cards of MLBs #1 draft pick years ago! I have some 75s and a 71 coin, a couple KMart cards plus other stuff coming your way by Friday! ================= Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 05:43:01 -0700 (PDT) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" From: John Storman Subject: 66 OR 67 TOPPS BB ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE ANY 66 OR 67 TOPPS BASEBALL CARDS TO TRADE? JOHN STORMAN Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: "obc rambling" Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 09:37:36 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: variation question Is thi a true error card? 1965 TOPPS DON PAVLETICH #472 SEMI HIGH # ERROR CARD (SAYS HE IS A PITCHER ON FRONT AND HAS BATTING STATS ON BACK, VERY RARE ================= Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 09:48:37 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re Don Pavelitch I don't think it is an error or variaion card. It is not listed as such in Beckett or SCD and I looked at my 65 card and it has pitcher on front and batting stats on back. I believe it just the card on him is made with no ================= Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 18:31:06 -0700 (PDT) To: Linda , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New Postage Stamps on Baseball Sluggers-Mantle,Campy,Ott,Greenberg Best part of the design of the four new stamps: They resemble 1951 Bowman cards. --- Linda wrote: > The U.S. Postal service plans on releasing four 39 > cent stamps this > year called Baseball Sluggers and will include > Mantle, Campy,Ott and > Greenberg.I uploaded pictures of the stamps from a > brochure i obtained > from the post office which lists stamps to be issued > in 2006.You can > see the stamps in the Photos section here in an > album called "Postage > Stamps".I notice that other countries like Grenada > have issued stamps > of ball players and if any member has any scans of > pics of the stamps > they could be added to the Postage Stamps photo > album.I also recall a > Babe Ruth issue by a foreign country.I don't know > the date of issue of > the Baseball Sluggers as it was not listed in the > post office brochure > but they are certainly worth looking for.- Linda Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 00:21:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Kellogg's Availables Picked up a few Kellogg's this morning at alocal show. They are not in great shape. All have cracking. If you can use any of them, go ahead and stake a claim. Please include your mailing address. Thanks. 1975 - #'s 36 34 1974 - #'s 53 51 47 43 42 24 18 16 13 5 4 3 ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 17:42:06 -0400 From: "Mac Wubben" Subject: Anybody have a scan of a w501? Paid a lot (for me) for one of these recently on ebay. The card looks pretty good, except it seems 'pixelated' to some extent. Any reason to worry about fakes with this issue? ================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 17:32:20 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: 1953 topps variations i seem to remember some discussion about this set, where the biographical stats under the name on the back were printed wither in white or black letters. what numbers did this apply to? was there a variation for each number in that range? are there other variations inthis set to be aware of? tnx, gm ================= To: Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:10:53 -0400 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: edstest ================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:08:13 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken M" Subject: Re: 1953 topps variations --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, smartalecx@... wrote: > i seem to remember some discussion about this set, where the biographical > stats under the name on the back were printed wither in white or black > what numbers did this apply to? was there a variation for each number in > that range? are there other variations inthis set to be aware of? > tnx, gm The white/black bios apply to all the second series cards from 86-165 EXCEPT 94, 107, 131, 145 and 156. Since there's 5 missing numbers from that run, it's only fair that five other cards are found WITH the bio variations 10, 44, 61, 72 and 81. Anyone crazy enough to look for both versions will need to find two each of Berra, Rizzuto, Spahn and Wilhelm, but thankfully Mantle just barely falls outside the number range. As far as I know, there's other variations in the set Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 04:40:05 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 Diamond Star, and one extra http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8810078707&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 A group of cards that would make any pre-war collector happy. Not sure what the black & white Red Sox card is, though. Can anyone ID it? Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 09:22:38 EDT To: Smartalecx@aol.com From: directorth@aol.com Subject: Re: 1953 variations According to the database that Shawn Atkins prepared for the Card Variations group, black and white bio text differences appear on the following cards: 10, 44, 61, 72, 81, 86-93, 95-106, 108-130, 132-144, 146-155, 157-165. As far as other variations, the database shows: 187 Jim Fridley (partial "r" in "outfielder, and complete "r"); and 247 Mike Sandlock (front picture complete, and front picture missing vertical piece of sky background near upper left corner). Shawn, can you verify these last 2? Take care, >>i seem to remember some discussion about this set, where the biographical stats under the name on the back were printed wither in white or black what numbers did this apply to? was there a variation for each number in that range? are there other variations inthis set to be aware of?<< ================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 11:36:17 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: ATTN: FOOTM Members and any other Tiger or Wrigley/Cubs fans i have 4 seats the the saturday, june 17 cubs/tigers game at 3:05. so far, mike rich has claimed one. i know we have 6 other MI members and hopefully a few more who might be interested. please let me know as it would be great to have a mini-obc gathering. tnx, gary mandell ================= To: Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 13:51:40 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Subject: National I heard that a promoter was putting together a large midwest alternative tothe National... I think in Cleveland. Anybody have any info? ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 08:00:44 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: need some Helmars Looking for the following: Moe Berg KAoru betto elmer flick pery walker Primo Carera Harry Grebe Stanley Ketchel Have the following extra: Ki Ki Culyler BrewerJohnny Evers D. Jones J. Crutchfield Pete hill Ray Chapman Hugh McAleer Jiro Noguchi Sadayoshi Fujimoto Tokujin Lida Darnell Knox Jack Dempsey j. jeannette sugar ray robinson Anthony Arbeeny ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:21:44 EDT To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: I've been duped Hi all, After many eBay wins, Ft. Washington and other show pickups and some donations from other OBC'ers, I offer the following availables. Preference will given to people I owe or to the one with the best story of how they can't live without a particular card or the one closest to finishing the set. Actually, it'll be pretty random Also, feel free to make a trade offer if you've been holding out on me with cards from my list. Bribes will also be accepted Condition is all over the place, but if you have to ask, you probably don't want them. There's a bunch of stars, SP's, and high numbers mixed in too. Ialso tried to list variations where possible, in case you're as crazy as me... well, it's the reason I ended up with most of these in the first place. (A lot them are the more common variety though). If it's not listed, drop me a line and I'll take a closer look. Any number listed more than once means I've got more than one to give away. Eventually, I'll get to the late 60's/early 70's my dupes box, but that'll be an even longer list. Don't be shy - Dig in! Ken M - PS - your address will speed packing 1911 T205: Fromme(SwCap bl) Tom Jones(Hassan) Schaefer(Hassan) Stahl(Honest) 1947-66 Exhibits(all of these are the more common varieties): Campanella, Carrasquel(leap), Dropo, Easter, Ennis, Ford(pit), Goodman(leap), Hegan, Kell, Kellner, Kinder, Lemon(no), Lopat, Maglie, Minoso(sox), Musial(kn), O'Dell, Pierce, Roberts(scr), Sain, Spahn(B), Stevens(bat), Torgeson(Br), Verban, Vernon(thr), Vernon(bat), Wertz(port?), Westlake, Woodling(scr), Wright 1949 Bowman: 4 13 16(trim) 45 48 53 55 56 57 66 68 74 77 78(nof) 81 83(nof) 86 88 90 91 106 120 122 130 135 1950 Bowman(* indicates no =A9 version): 1 3 12 27 43 76 86 86 105 105 118 123 151 157 159 167 177 188 197 199 200 200 202 206 211 213 214 214 220* 221* 222* 222* 223 224* 224 228 228 230* 234* 240* 240 243 243* 248* 1951 Topps Blue Backs: 21 22 47 1952 Topps: 123 1953 Bowman BW: 28 1953 Bowman Color:88 104 110 1953 Topps: 38 111b 113w 115b 128b 130b 139b 144b 152b 153b 169 186 201 211 1954 Topps 143 1954 Bowman: 24 33(tr) 56 75 99(.985) 1955 Topps: 62 62 62 86 86 101 170 170 173 237 1955 Bowman 44 49 1956 Topps: 57 1957 Topps 310 1958 Topps: 13y 60y 60y 204 368 397(#) 428(#) 428(#) 1959 Topps: 46 72 178 198 342 462 1959 Fleer(most have glue residue on all back corners): 3 6 20 26 30 36 38 42 45 47 48 50 51 57 67 74 1960 Topps: 50 414g 1961 Topps: 17 104 104 104 147 214 236 267 1961 Post: 61 66 78 79 88 120 123 124 1962 Topps: 36 47 89 98(x5) 122 122 135 149g 184 186g 188 399 1963 Topps: 31 31 31 31 79 85 89 93 94 94 101 121 122 160 162 166 167 174 191 280 372 387 387 404 409 438 473 1963 Post (or *Jello): 17 20 32 52 64 91 96 99 107 110 131 136* 141* 150 175 179* 180 183 1964 Topps: 15 22 30 31 54 61 66 72 75 75 76 84 84 90 92 96 102 104 122 129 129 137 141 146 152 154 168 168 168 169 188 189 189 193 225 258 282 296 500580 1965 Topps: 49 117 371 391 439 459 465 472 480(x4) 486 498 506 514 585 585 1967 Topps: 17 21 61 66 76(x5) 81 81 96 101 101 115 118 118 155 176 199 207 207 207 233 235 247 253 254 260 278(x5) 302 325 325 329 335 429 1968 Topps Game: 1 1970 Topps Super: 3 1970 Rold Gold ATG: 1 2 2 4 5 5 6 7 9 9 11 12 14 14 15 1970 Kellogg's: 1 3 6 8 11 11 11 16 33 34 36 39 39 48 48 50 51 51 55 55 55 56 60 62 64 65 67 70 75 1971 Kellogg's(*no =A91970): 1* 1* 3 4 6 8 11 13 13 14* 15 16 16 18* 18 19 22* 22* 22 23 23* 24 25 25 26 27 27* 29 31 32 33 38 39 41 41 41* 42* 44* 45 45 48 51 51 54* 61 61* 63 63* 63 66* 66 70 75 1972 Kelloggs ATG: 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 4 5 5 5 5 7 8 8 8 11 11 14 1972 Kellogg's: 2 2 2 2 4 5 5 5 9 10 11 11 11 12 14 14 15 15 16 17 18 21 21 22 22 23 23 24 25 25 28 28 28 29 29 30 31 32 33 33 33 36 37 38 38 39 40 41 41 41 42 42 42 43 45 45 45 45 46 4647 48 50 51 52 52 1973 Kellogg's: 9 1974 Kellogg's: 1 2 4 7 10 11 14 17 17 23 26 31 34 45 45 48 51 52 1975 Kellogg's: 1 1 1 2 5 7 8 8 9 10 12 13 13 14 16 16 17 17 17 17 19 19 19 19 21 24 24 24 24 26 27 32 32 33 35 37 38 40 41 41 41 42 43 43 43 44 45(x12!) 46 46 46 46 46 47 48 50 50 50 51 52 53 55 56 1976 Kellogg's: 1 2 3 5 7 9 9 10 11 12 14 17 18 24 25 28 31 36 38 41 54 1978 Hostess: 142 2005 OBC PTC: #6 Morganti(auto'd) (x100 or so) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:48:14 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: 1976 Red Sox MLBPA Pictures I recently won a lot of 20 (w/ some dups) 1976 Red Sox MLBPA Pictures. Players are; Yaz, Fisk, Lynn, Rice x2, Evans, Miller, Cooper, Petrocelli, Burlson x2, Jenkins, Tiant x2, Doyle, House, Wise, Cleveland, Lee x2 Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&It Does anyone know of a checklist for this set? PS the Rice, Tiant, Burleson and Lee dups are available ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (obc ramblings),obc Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:39:57 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: 1976 Red Sox MLBPA Pictures I recently won a lot of 20 (w/ some dups) 1976 Red Sox MLBPA Pictures. Players are; Yaz, Fisk, Lynn, Rice x2, Evans, Miller, Cooper, Petrocelli, Burlson x2, Jenkins, Tiant x2, Doyle, House, Wise, Cleveland, Lee x2 Here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=8806785098 Does anyone know of a checklist for this set? p.s. The Rice, Burleson, Tiant and Lee dups are availible! ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:00:40 -0400 To: obcbobd@comcast.net,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (obc ramblings),obc From: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1976 Red Sox MLBPA Pictures The nickname of this set is called "Star Market" Here is the checklist. Name First Year Company Number Burleson Rick 1976 Red Sox Star Market 001 Cleveland Reggie 1976 Red Sox Star Market 002 Cooper Cecil 1976 Red Sox Star Market 003 Doyle Denny 1976 Red Sox Star Market 004 Evans Dwight 1976 Red Sox Star Market 005 Fisk Carlton 1976 Red Sox Star Market 006 House Tom 1976 Red Sox Star Market 007 Jenkins Ferguson 1976 Red Sox Star Market 008 Lee Bill 1976 Red Sox Star Market 009 Lynn Fred 1976 Red Sox Star Market 010 Miller Rick 1976 Red Sox Star Market 011 Petrocelli Rico 1976 Red Sox Star Market 012 Rice Jim 1976 Red Sox Star Market 013 Tiant Luis 1976 Red Sox Star Market 014 Wise Rick 1976 Red Sox Star Market 015 Yastrzemski Carl 1976 Red Sox Star Market 016 At 02:39 PM 5/12/2006, obcbobd@comcast.net wrote: >I recently won a lot of 20 (w/ some dups) 1976 Red Sox MLBPA >Pictures. Players are; >Yaz, Fisk, Lynn, Rice x2, Evans, Miller, Cooper, Petrocelli, Burlson >x2, Jenkins, Tiant x2, Doyle, House, Wise, Cleveland, Lee x2 >Here's the link >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=8806785098 >Does anyone know of a checklist for this set? >p.s. The Rice, Burleson, Tiant and Lee dups are availible! >Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 13:21:34 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Minor league promotions After a recent summer spent chasing down each New England minor league team, these articles tickled my fancy. Mike Veeck strikes! http://www.belleville.com/mld/belleville/news/state/14555735.htm Injured bobbleheads! http://www.ktvu.com/news/9176349/detail.html Always great to see how the really small market teams keep things Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: "obc ramblings" , Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 23:25:44 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 Diamond Star, and one extra Spike -- I'm not sure what set it's from, but I think it's Julio Franco... Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew To: obc ramblings Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 Diamond Star, and one extra http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item8810078707&rd1&sspagenameSTRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd1 A group of cards that would make any pre-war collector happy. Not sure what black & white Red Sox card is, though. Can anyone ID it? Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 15:44:42 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 Diamond Star, and one extra http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8810078707&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > I'm not sure what set it's from, but I think it's Julio Franco... > Take Care, Geno Heh! Geno is almost certainly correct. Fortunately, the set is also identified: it's a W572. So, there you go--33 Goudeys, a 34 Diamond Star, and a W572. Still at $12.50 right now... Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:05:05 -0400 To: Matthew , From: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 I know that i do not have the card in my hand, but........... Paul Ivy Andrews played in the 1930s (1931-1937) and the W572 set was issued in 1922. So that can't the set that the card is from. But it still could be Franco. At 06:44 PM 5/12/2006, Matthew wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8810078707&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 > > I'm not sure what set it's from, but I think it's Julio Franco... > > > > Take Care, Geno >Heh! Geno is almost certainly correct. Fortunately, the set is also >it's a W572. So, there you go--33 Goudeys, a 34 Diamond Star, and a >W572. Still >at $12.50 right now... >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:17:29 -0700 From: "Grant" Subject: UV Collectors Alert! Maybe there is a UV collector in the crowd who is richer than he "http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/05/11/gordon.card.ap http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/05/11/gordon.card.ap/ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/337 - Release Date: 5/11/2006 ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Re: OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 Diamond Star, and a W574 Heh, everyone knows I meant W574, right? Right? Only a tragic antihero would think it was a W572! The mere idea! :) --- Joel Freedman wrote: > I know that i do not have the card in my hand, but........... > Paul Ivy Andrews played in the 1930s (1931-1937) and the W572 set was > issued in 1922. So that can't the set that the card is from. > But it still could be Franco. Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: "vct" , Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 22:15:17 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: 1964 push I have gotten some good help on this set so far. Any help pushing this set futurer down. I have the following to trade: 1964 #,133,169,187,188 ,256,283,322,369,431,428,554,557,569 ,579. I need 1964 topps any condition 27 left#150(mays),200(koufax),300(aaron),371,400(spahn),440(clemente),452,460(gibson),464,476,482,512,543(uecker),549,550,555= ================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 22:54:15 -0400 To: grains@dccnet.com (Grant) From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] UV Collectors Alert! No wonder I was one card short of completing Series 1. Word is a number of cards were found in packs sold at the Wal-Mart stores in the Wichita area! One guy there pulled 2 out of one pack! We keep what we give away! ================= To: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:36:18 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: T205 Wallace OBCers -- Here's a rough-looking T205 of HOFer Bobby Wallace. The front isn't awful, so it would probably look pretty good in an OBC collection! http://cgi.ebay.com/T205-T-205-HOFer-Bobby-Wallace_W0QQitemZ8809280611QQcategoryZ86840QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Take Care, Geno ================= To: "obc ramblings" Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:32:07 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 Diamond Star, and one extra OBCers -- I subscribe to a magazine called Best Life (sort of like Men's Health, but a bit older target audience). There was an article in there about Franco and his longevity. He talked about his approach to life and training to stay in shape. I know he's fun to joke about, but his story is pretty inspiring and refreshing in today's game. That being said, I still need a Tinker-Evers-Franco T202 if anybody has one. Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Freedman To: Matthew ; obc ramblings Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC grade eBay lot of 33 Goudeys, 34 DiamondStar, and one extra I know that i do not have the card in my hand, but........... Paul Ivy Andrews played in the 1930s (1931-1937) and the W572 set was issued in 1922. So that can't the set that the card is from. But it still could be Franco. At 06:44 PM 5/12/2006, Matthew wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item8810078707&rd1&sspagenameSTRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd1 > > I'm not sure what set it's from, but I think it's Julio Franco... > > > > Take Care, Geno >Heh! Geno is almost certainly correct. Fortunately, the set is also >it's a W572. So, there you go--33 Goudeys, a 34 Diamond Star, and a >W572. Still >at $12.50 right now... >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >Yahoo! Groups Links YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:55:10 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken M" Subject: Re: T205 Wallace I couldn't help noticing that the seller describes the card as having a Hassan back... ironically, the card in my reprint set also has a Hassan back. Hmmm.... Ken M --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "geno.wagner" < geno.wagner@...> wrote: > OBCers -- > Here's a rough-looking T205 of HOFer Bobby Wallace. The front isn't awful, > so it would probably look pretty good in an OBC collection! > http://cgi.ebay.com/T205-T-205-HOFer-Bobby- > Take Care, Geno ================= To: , Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:06:12 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: T205 Wallace Ken -- Do you mean to say that the one in your reprint set might actually be authentic?!? Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken M To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:55 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: T205 Wallace I couldn't help noticing that the seller describes the card as having a Hassan back... ironically, the card in my reprint set also has a Hassan back. Hmmm.... Ken M --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "geno.wagner" < geno.wagner@...> wrote: > OBCers -- > Here's a rough-looking T205 of HOFer Bobby Wallace. The front isn't awful, > so it would probably look pretty good in an OBC collection! > http://cgi.ebay.com/T205-T-205-HOFer-Bobby- > Take Care, Geno SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 06:47:44 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: More on Mr. Franco While his MLB career didn't start until after 1980...here's a minor league vintage card of the man himself. http://cgi.ebay.com/1980-TCMA-Peninsula-Pilots-B-W-set-Julio-Franco_W0QQitemZ8810903640QQcategoryZ1222QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Can't forget the number of times he beat up on my Mariners as a Ranger, but at least it was 15 years ago now... Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:26:28 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: 53 variation wantlist added i have added a variation wantlist for this set, mainly the color of the bio on the back. in many cases, i have a dupe of the card, so would be able to replace your single if you dont care about variations. still have back variations posted for the 52 set as well, with dupes of many of those available. you can find these lists at _http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html_ (http://gmcards.homestead.com/mywebpage.html) tnx for looking, ================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:24:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Ebay seller describes these as uncatalogued popcorn cards Anyone have information on these cards? ebay # 8810225989. Would also like to mention this is a good ebay seller. I won a lot of 1950 Bowmans from him-ebay # 8801071616.In the lot was a lo #30-Eddie Waitkus- Phillies.Since this card is a dup does anyone need this card for their 1950 Bowman set?If so contact me, be happy to send it to you- Linda ================= To: "'Linda'" , Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:33:28 -0700 From: "Grant" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay seller describes these as uncatalogued popcorn cards Linda, those are not 1957 cards.....they are like a retro set, which I think was put out around 1980ish, very unofficial and I believe unlicenced, featuring the Coast League players... Anyone have information on these cards? ebay # 8810225989. Would also like to mention this is a good ebay seller. I won a lot of 1950 Bowmans from him-ebay # 8801071616.In the lot was a lo #30-Eddie Waitkus- Phillies.Since this card is a dup does anyone need this card for their 1950 Bowman set?If so contact me, be happy to send it to you- Linda Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.6/338 - Release Date: 5/12/2006 ================= To: , "Linda" Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:00:43 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay seller describes these as uncatalogued popcorn cards I could use the Waitkus card...I need just 25 more for the set of 252. Eddie "The Natural" Waitkus is one of them. As Grant mentioned, these are not unc-popcorns but from 1974 Broder. Good buddy and Popcorn Expert Dave Fallen just educated me on these cards the other day,making me a junior expert. ( Actually I still have the little kernels stuck in my teeth from the last batch I bought...but that's a different story) OBC Forever For Linda , if needed: Brian Lindholme P.O. Box 2982 Florence,OR 97439 ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay seller describes these as uncatalogued popcorn Anyone have information on these cards? ebay # 8810225989. Would also like to mention this is a good ebay seller. I won a lot of 1950 Bowmans from him-ebay # 8801071616.In the lot was a lo #30-Eddie Waitkus- Phillies.Since this card is a dup does anyone need this card for their 1950 Bowman set?If so contact me, be happy to send it to you- Linda SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:30:43 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Yaz Subject: mailings? I have not got any emails from Ramblings or Thanks for over a week now. Anyone know what's up? Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:36:06 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Yaz Subject: or... ...someone send me a test at yazmon@insightbb.com Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: OBC-grade 1922 Neilsons lot of 5 http://cgi.ebay.com/1922-NEILSONS-TYPE-2-V61-LOT-OF-5_W0QQitemZ8811302142QQcategoryZ31719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem They're OBC condition for sure! Might the $9.99 opener be a bit high, even for pre-wars? :) Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 02:13:23 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Toronto report Last weekend I went to the semi-annual show in Toronto. I had low expectations, due to the Canadian exchange having shrunk to only about a 10% premium (a few years ago I got almost 60%). I put together a Toronto shopping list, hoping to finish my OPC hockey run (only need 2 1968-9 Orr's), make a dent in my OPC BB run (needed 38) and go to town on Parkhurst hockey (need a couple hundred) were the highlites. Also wanted to work on some oddball issues such as Post Canadian BB and CFL, Shirriff hockey and BB coins, Nalleys coins, etc. Since 1952 Topps high numbers seem to be more prevalent in Toronto, I was also hoping to get a few of them. As is typical when I come up with a game plan, what I got bore little resemblance. Although I did get 6 hits to my OPC BB list, I did not complete a single set for myself. I did not get either Orr or a single Parkhurst card (not even a CFL or BB which I also collect). I did get 5 Post Canadian BB, including Clemente, Yaz & Koufax, getting them close to shortprints (sp's) only. A single 1962 & 2 1963 Post CFL, although a number for Marshall West. I did get a few hits to my Topps and Bowman sets, plus some upgrades. Most of my money was spent on prewar cards. A fantastic hit of some matchbooks including a Howie Morenz (the Babe Ruth of prewar hockey). My 1936-37 OPC hockey series D is now a want instead of a have list. Bought a stack of relatively nice conditioned 1939 & 1940 Playballs, including 3 1940 high numbers. I got a few type cards, including 1 that Spike will be jealous of, 1923 Maple Crispette #5 Fohl. Although I tried to buy some 1933-34 WWG BB, but things did not work out, other than a 1933 Frisch. Big pick-up were 9 1937 OPC BB to go with the 2 I had, towards a set of 40. My dupes boxes were reinforced with some prewar and a few Bowman and Topps stars from the 1949-1955 range. Also bought a stack of Tiptonesque OPC BB to pass around. I was able to get cards to complete sets for a at least 1 OBCer and another buddy. So the show was OK. Not great, but not horrible (around 100 hits total to my list, if you count upgrades). I have about a dozen packages put together already to send out. I will try and get them out in the next couple of days. Mike Rich ================= To: Matthew , obc ramblings Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 02:44:01 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC-grade 1922 Neilsons lot of 5 Not too high for Andy!!! -------------- Original message -------------- From: Matthew http://cgi.ebay.com/1922-NEILSONS-TYPE-2-V61-LOT-OF-5_W0QQitemZ8811302142QQcategoryZ31719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem They're OBC condition for sure! Might the $9.99 opener be a bit high, even for pre-wars? :) Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:09:58 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: OBC Gathering...caught on film Here is a not-so-recent gathering of young OBCers in training... A masterpiece. OBC Forever ================= Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 05:01:09 EDT To: talbot1@comcast.net, obc_spike@yahoo.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC-grade 1922 Neilsons lot of 5 Those are high grade, at least Tipton 9s. Andy Not too high for Andy!!! -------------- Original message -------------- From: Matthew _http://cgi.ebay.com/1922-NEILSONS-TYPE-2-V61-LOT-OF-5_W0QQitemZ8811302142QQca (http://cgi.ebay.com/1922-NEILSONS-TYPE-2-V61-LOT-OF-5_W0QQitemZ8811302142QQcategoryZ31719QQssPageNameZWD They're OBC condition for sure! Might the $9.99 opener be a bit high, even pre-wars? :) ================= Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 03:05:11 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: looking for the Blyleven fans Hey I found a few Blylevens. Nothing special. I know there's at least one guy here who collects him, maybe more. But I don't remember who... Anyone interested? ================= To: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:41:14 -0500 From: "Mark Z" Subject: ruth 714? or 734?? a young twentysomething baseball fan at work told me that the Babe was 'cheated' out of about 20 HR of his 30 ish game winning HR because they did notcount the run if the game was already won.. such as if the game was tied in the 9th, with man on 2nd, and ruth homered,they would credit him with a double or triple, not a hr.. I have never heard this before....can any of you all confirm or deny??? he also said that there were many accounts of homers down the foul line that left the field of play in fair territory, but landed in the seats in foulterritory, and were called foul...that one would be much different to quantify with little or no video... I look forward to some feedback from some of you guys that were there!! thanks ,Mark ================= To: "Mark Z" , Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 06:49:27 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? Ruth had 1 game ending home run that was credited as a triple. In 1968 a MLB had a special committe which decided that these hits should not be changed. A list of other "lost" homeruns is http://www.retrosheet.org/ending.htm For some of Ruth's career (till 1930) a home run could bounce into the stands. According to the folks at SABR none of Ruth's home runs were of this sort. However, I'm sure Ruth lost home runs that curved foul after leaving the -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Z Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:41 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? a young twentysomething baseball fan at work told me that the Babe was 'cheated' out of about 20 HR of his 30 ish game winning HR because they did not count the run if the game was already won.. such as if the game was tied in the 9th, with man on 2nd, and ruth homered, they would credit him with a double or triple, not a hr.. I have never heard this before....can any of you all confirm or deny??? he also said that there were many accounts of homers down the foul line that left the field of play in fair territory, but landed in the seats in foul territory, and were called foul...that one would be much different to quantify with little or no video... I look forward to some feedback from some of you guys that were there!! thanks ,Mark YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of ================= To: "Mark Z" , Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:01:07 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? You don't need video, just ask Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Z To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:41 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? a young twentysomething baseball fan at work told me that the Babe was 'cheated' out of about 20 HR of his 30 ish game winning HR because they did not count the run if the game was already won.. such as if the game was tied in the 9th, with man on 2nd, and ruth homered, they would credit him with a double or triple, not a hr.. I have never heard this before....can any of you all confirm or deny??? he also said that there were many accounts of homers down the foul line that left the field of play in fair territory, but landed in the seats in foul territory, and were called foul...that one would be much different to quantify with little or no video... I look forward to some feedback from some of you guys that were there!! thanks ,Mark YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:33:08 EDT To: mzentko@earthlink.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? Very possible, there is also a theory out there that any ball that bounced over the wall was considered a HR and not a ground rule double. That rule came John Leroux ================= To: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:21:23 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: the Babe I'd say the story is "urban myth" at best. I can't imagine that the scoringsystem for the infrequent walk-off homer differed in the 1920s. ================= To: "George Vrechek" , Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:31:32 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe No it's not. From the 7/9/1918 Washington Post - Ruth's Triple Wins "Ruth's triple into the right field bleachers in the last of the tenth, scored Strunk, who had singled, with the only run of the first game" -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of George Vrechek Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:21 PM To: mzentko@earthlink.net Cc: Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe I'd say the story is "urban myth" at best. I can't imagine that the scoring system for the infrequent walk-off homer differed in the 1920s. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of ================= To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 03:52:01 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Looking for DAVID PURDHAM Hello All, My recent birthday card mailing to DAVID PURDHAM came back return to sender, does anyone know the whereabouts of David? Thanks for your help!!! REGARDS ----------------------- MARK ================= Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 05:24:44 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Cards from extremely rare set on ebay I think one of the most difficult sets of 19th Century Baseball players to find any cards from is the 20 card set put out by Sonshine Industries.I bought this 20 card set at a Toys R Us in 1987 and i have never seen any of the cards from the set on ebay or at any baseball card show. But now 10 of the cards in the set have finally showed up as a lot on ebay.Check out ebay # 8811781963.It may be the only time you will ever see these cards put out by this small obscure company.-Linda ================= Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:54:01 -0400 (EDT) To: From: Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe I am not sure how much of this I buy, but this was in our local paper last week, and I just was able to find it online. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/sfl-mikeb10may10,0,1553614.column?coll=sfla-sports-col Very interesting. This guy estimates that Babe Ruth would have hit 1,150 home runs if he played in the modern era. He has a book coming out soon, which I am sure describes this more in detail. > No it's not. > From the 7/9/1918 Washington Post - Ruth's Triple Wins > "Ruth's triple into the right field bleachers in the last of the tenth, > scored Strunk, who had singled, with the only run of the first game" > Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of George Vrechek > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:21 PM > To: mzentko@earthlink.net > Cc: Ramblings > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe > I'd say the story is "urban myth" at best. I can't imagine that the > scoring system for the infrequent walk-off homer differed in the 1920s. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- ================= Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:09:45 -0400 To: nthomas@pol.net From: malsman250@neo.rr.com Subject: Re: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe > Actually, the rule change occurred in 1920 - so technically, you are both right... :) > > No it's not. > > > > From the 7/9/1918 Washington Post - Ruth's Triple Wins > > "Ruth's triple into the right field bleachers in the last of the > tenth,> scored Strunk, who had singled, with the only run of the > first game" > > > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > > From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of George Vrechek > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:21 PM > > To: mzentko@earthlink.net > > Cc: Ramblings > > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe > > > > > > I'd say the story is "urban myth" at best. I can't imagine > that the > > scoring system for the infrequent walk-off homer differed in the > 1920s.> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > -- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > -- > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -------------------- > ~--> > Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email > arriveshttp://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/QBiolB/TM > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -~-> > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 03:06:34 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Help Okay...years ago, in an all-star game far away, futuristic jerseys were worn. Here is what I need...I need the year of the all-star game and where it was played. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ================= To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:01:55 -0400 From: "Bob Reed" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Help From http://www.baseballtruth.com/diamond_duds/duds_072004.htm "1999 -- will be remembered in these parts as the Boston Massacre. That was the year MLB fooled with the "Turn Ahead the Clock" games that featured futuristic uniforms, and they apparently let the people who designed those things design the All-Star jerseys. Hmmmm. Let's see. We're in Fenway Park, among the most historic and traditional of baseball stadiums. Let's dress the players in futuristic uniforms! Yuck. The jerseys were sleeveless, which is in and of itself not a bad thing. But they put the league names sideways on the right side of the front. Even worse, the players' names on the back also were sideways. It was the wrong look at the wrong time at the wrong ballpark. To prove that no one was learning many valuable lessons, the 2000 jerseys in Atlanta were nearly as bad. They were semi-sleeveless, which just looks terrible. There was piping that ran from the neck to the armpits. The league names were in plain block letters, with the year on top of "National" and below "American." Like with the Boston jerseys, there was nothing that would indicate the host team or city. >From: Wite3@aol.com >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Help >Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 03:06:34 EDT >Okay...years ago, in an all-star game far away, futuristic jerseys were >worn. Here is what I need...I need the year of the all-star game and where >it was >played. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, ================= To: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 19:25:36 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: thanks for your research re the Babe do you have a source for the history of rule changes? ================= Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:47:53 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: t206guy@aol.com Subject: Antique store find (glove) Greetings all. I picked this up in an antique store a couple of days ago. For some reason the name rang a bell in my head so I dropped the $5. I left it on the counter for a couple of days, but today I decided to see why the name was tickling my cranium from the inside. The glove is a WILLARD HERSHBERGER model and after a quick kick of the memory, I remembered why I knew the name. Willard is the only Major Leaguer to committ suicide DURING a season. He only played for 3 seasons and never played in more than 63 games, yet Hutch still made a Hershberger model. I can only imagine that it was because he played for Cincinnati (where he was the backup to HOFer Ernie Lombardi) and Hutch was based in Cincinnati. I just found it interesting that they bothered to make a glove for a backup catcher. I didn't see it listed in my 1988 memorbilia price guide. (I have stubbornly refused to upgrade as I have too many notes in the old one) I don't suppose it's too common. I have included a picture for those of you that can get them. Any additional insights? ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 05:29:25 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "alcattle" Subject: Missing person report Brian and I are trying to track down Mikey D-a-mont-tee. All his phone numbers have changed, his email box is too full and no word of him in years, ok a couple days. If anyone knows a way to reach to ex-coffe boy, please contact us or the FBI. Thanks, A concern citizen. Big Al in Seattle ================= To: , Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 06:50:59 +0100 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Antique store find (glove) Mark -- I have no insights to offer, other than the fact that you certainly got your $5 worth!! Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: t206guy@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:47 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Antique store find (glove) Greetings all. I picked this up in an antique store a couple of days ago. For some reason the name rang a bell in my head so I dropped the $5. I left it on the counter for a couple of days, but today I decided to see why the name was tickling my cranium from the inside. The glove is a WILLARD HERSHBERGER model and after a quick kick of the memory, I remembered why I knew the name. Willard is the only Major Leaguer to committ suicide DURING a season. Heonly played for 3 seasons and never played in more than 63 games, yet Hutch still made a Hershberger model. I can only imagine that it was because he played for Cincinnati (where he was the backup to HOFer Ernie Lombardi) and Hutch was based in Cincinnati. I just found it interesting that they bothered to make a glove for a backup catcher. I didn't see it listed in my 1988 memorbilia price guide. (I have stubbornly refused to upgrade as I have too many notes in the old one) I don't suppose it's too common. I have included a picture for those of you that can get them. Any additional insights? SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 05:52:07 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Two five-card lots of pre-wars (looks like W572) The set isn't specified in the lot description, but matches the W572 picture from oldcardboard.com. http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-5-1920s-BASEBALL-CIGARETTE-TOBACCO-CARDS_W0QQitemZ8814608114QQcategoryZ31719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-5-1920s-BASEBALL-CIGARETTE-TOBACCO-CARDS_W0QQitemZ8814609579QQcategoryZ31719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The second lot includes HOFer Eppa Rixey. Might be one or two others--my pre-war HOF recognition isn't super-sharp. $.98 shipping on each lot. Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:01:32 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ddejong@everestkc.net Subject: Some availables ..... Hey gang - With a bunch of relatives descending on us for my son's graduation this weekend I had only a little time to check wantlists and get some cards out this morning, but my wife says I now n ed to start on the chore list, so I will post the rest of these for FCFS. If you include your address it would be appreciated. I probably won't be able to respond or get them out until Monday. Enjoy... 1957 Topps (some paper loss) 105, 110, 132, 162, 167, 199, 364 1965 Topps: 54, 63, 66, 76, 174, 192, 356, 358, 407, 451, 459, 558, 577, 578, 590, 594, 595 1966 Topps: 13, 34, 47, 67, 101, 1969 Topps: 33, 92, 147, 148 ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 13:45:31 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: Re: Lost Home Runs Hay gang: The Special Records Committee in 1968 determined that Babe Ruth actually gained the home run on July 8, 1918 (which was officially a triple). In 1969 though, they reversed this decision. The rule at the time was indeed that you could not win by more than one run if a "sudden death" home run hit outside the park was struck in the last inning of the game the a home run would be converted to whatever hit would ahve won it by a run (singe, double, triple). This did not apply to inside the park homers apparently. I suppose you could call this the Robin Ventura rule these days....... -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:15:51 -0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 1800 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Protect your PC from spy ware with award winning anti spy technology. It's free. HREF="http://us.click.yahoo.com/97bhrC/LGxNAA/yQLSAA/QBiolB/TM">Click There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: ruth 714? or 734?? From: "Bob Donaldson" obcbobd@comcast.net 2. Re: ruth 714? or 734?? From: "geno.wagner" geno.wagner@ntlworld.com 3. Re: ruth 714? or 734?? From: "trufan999@aol.com" trufan999@aol.com 4. the Babe From: "George Vrechek" vrechek@ameritech.net 5. Re: the Babe From: "Bob Donaldson" obcbobd@comcast.net 6. Looking for DAVID PURDHAM From: "talbot1@comcast.net" talbot1@comcast.net 7. Cards from extremely rare set on ebay From: "Linda" jazzgirl1920s@aol.com Message 1 From: "Bob Donaldson" obcbobd@comcast.net Date: Tue May 16, 2006 4:24am(PDT) Subject: Re: ruth 714? or 734?? Ruth had 1 game ending home run that was credited as a triple. In 1968 MLB had a special committe which decided that these hits should not be changed. A list of other "lost" homeruns is http://www.retrosheet.org/ending.htm For some of Ruth's career (till 1930) a home run could bounce into the stands. According to the folks at SABR none of Ruth's home runs were of this sort. However, I'm sure Ruth lost home runs that curved foul after leaving the -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Z Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:41 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? a young twentysomething baseball fan at work told me that the Babe was 'cheated' out of about 20 HR of his 30 ish game winning HR because they not count the run if the game was already won.. such as if the game was tied in the 9th, with man on 2nd, and ruth homered, they would credit him with a double or triple, not a hr.. I have never heard this before....can any of you all confirm or he also said that there were many accounts of homers down the foul that left the field of play in fair territory, but landed in the seats foul territory, and were called foul...that one would be much different quantify with little or no video... I look forward to some feedback from some of you guys that were thanks ,Mark YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Message 2 From: "geno.wagner" geno.wagner@ntlworld.com Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:09am(PDT) Subject: Re: ruth 714? or 734?? You don't need video, just ask Howard. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Z To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:41 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ruth 714? or 734?? a young twentysomething baseball fan at work told me that the Babe 'cheated' out of about 20 HR of his 30 ish game winning HR because they did not count the run if the game was already won.. such as if the game was tied in the 9th, with man on 2nd, and ruth they would credit him with a double or triple, not a hr.. I have never heard this before....can any of you all confirm or he also said that there were many accounts of homers down the foul line that left the field of play in fair territory, but landed in the seats in territory, and were called foul...that one would be much different to with little or no video... I look forward to some feedback from some of you guys that were thanks ,Mark YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Message 3 From: "trufan999@aol.com" trufan999@aol.com Date: Tue May 16, 2006 4:33pm(PDT) Subject: Re: ruth 714? or 734?? Very possible, there is also a theory out there that any ball that over the wall was considered a HR and not a ground rule double. That rule came John Leroux Message 4 From: "George Vrechek" vrechek@ameritech.net Date: Tue May 16, 2006 6:21pm(PDT) Subject: the Babe I'd say the story is "urban myth" at best. I can't imagine that the system for the infrequent walk-off homer differed in the 1920s. Message 5 From: "Bob Donaldson" obcbobd@comcast.net Date: Tue May 16, 2006 7:33pm(PDT) Subject: Re: the Babe No it's not. From the 7/9/1918 Washington Post - Ruth's Triple Wins "Ruth's triple into the right field bleachers in the last of the tenth, scored Strunk, who had singled, with the only run of the first game" -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of George Vrechek Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 9:21 PM To: mzentko@earthlink.net Cc: Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] the Babe I'd say the story is "urban myth" at best. I can't imagine that the scoring system for the infrequent walk-off homer differed in the 1920s. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Message 6 From: "talbot1@comcast.net" talbot1@comcast.net Date: Tue May 16, 2006 9:42pm(PDT) Subject: Looking for DAVID PURDHAM Hello All, My recent birthday card mailing to DAVID PURDHAM came back return to does anyone know the whereabouts of David? Thanks for your help!!! REGARDS ----------------------- MARK Message 7 From: "Linda" jazzgirl1920s@aol.com Date: Tue May 16, 2006 10:26pm(PDT) Subject: Cards from extremely rare set on ebay I think one of the most difficult sets of 19th Century Baseball players to find any cards from is the 20 card set put out by Sonshine Industries.I bought this 20 card set at a Toys R Us in 1987 and i have never seen any of the cards from the set on ebay or at any baseball card show. But now 10 of the cards in the set have finally showed up as a lot on ebay.Check out ebay # 8811781963.It may be the only time you will ever see these cards put out by this small obscure company.-Linda Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:31:19 -0400 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com, VCT@lists.VintageCardTraders.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: eBay: Personalized Ottawa Lynx Baseball Card (item 8803090540 end ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:09:23 EDT To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: answer the question and win a Zeenut! I have a 1923 Zeenut of Essick (nice image, name has been rubbed off, but it's Essick of Vernon PCL) for the first person to correctly answer this Twice between about 1977 and 1983 I was in attendance at a game where this player led off the bottom of the first inning with a home run. Who is he? ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 21:13:32 -0400 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: Stan Musial Postcard cut from March/April 1991 Legends Magazine ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:01:00 EDT To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win a Zeenut! Update: the guesses so far are Rickey Henderson and Willie Randolph - both incorrect. BTW, my wife got it on the first try. I have a 1923 Zeenut of Essick (nice image, name has been rubbed off, but it's Essick of Vernon PCL) for the first person to correctly answer this Twice between about 1977 and 1983 I was in attendance at a game where this player led off the bottom of the first inning with a home run. Who is he? ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:16:49 EDT To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win a Zeenut! Incorrect guesses so far: Rickey Henderson Willie Randolph Greg Luzinski Al Bumbry Hint #1 - I live in the DC metro area, but I'm not from anywhere near BTW, my wife got it on the first try. I have a 1923 Zeenut of Essick (nice image, name has been rubbed off, but it's Essick of Vernon PCL) for the first person to correctly answer this Twice between about 1977 and 1983 I was in attendance at a game where this player led off the bottom of the first inning with a home run. Who is he? ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:19:22 -0400 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: lefty catchers Well it took Jimbo only 26 minutes to come up with the answer to win the Stan Musial PC. The ones I was looking for were: Benny Distefano Mike Squires Dale Long I thought a 4th guy may have done it recently but maybe it was just talked about in case of an injury & a 3rd string backup or something. Anyway Jimbo tells me that 33 guys have done it (or was it 33 times it has happened/I can't remember which now). But the bottom line is 10 guys have done it since 1900 (according to Bill James). So Jim got the 3 I knew of plus added 7 more :-) When I saw the post about the old glove (Nice deal at $5!) I thought about the lefty catchers trivia. Does anyone even make a lefty catcher's mitt? ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:25:02 EDT To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win a Zeenut! - we have a winner! And the winner of the 1923 Zeenut is Bob Donaldson who correctly guessed the great second baseman of my hometown LA Dodgers -- Davey Lopes! I have a 1923 Zeenut of Essick (nice image, name has been rubbed off, but it's Essick of Vernon PCL) for the first person to correctly answer this Twice between about 1977 and 1983 I was in attendance at a game where this player led off the bottom of the first inning with a home run. Who is he? ================= To: , , Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 19:27:08 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win a Zeenut! Slight chance guess : Bobby Bonds, OF, Many teams Off the wall guess: Craig Reynolds, SS Seattle OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: typecard@aol.com To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com ; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] Re: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win aZeenut! Update: the guesses so far are Rickey Henderson and Willie Randolph - both incorrect. BTW, my wife got it on the first try. I have a 1923 Zeenut of Essick (nice image, name has been rubbed off, but it's Essick of Vernon PCL) for the first person to correctly answer thisquestion: Twice between about 1977 and 1983 I was in attendance at a game where this player led off the bottom of the first inning with a home run. Who is he? SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Wantlist" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:30:01 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Carlos Alcazar Subject: I guess I'll re-introduce myself... Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, If the sender of this e-mail seems unfamiliar or only vaguely familiar I would not blame you as I have not been around for the vast majority of this decade. As such I feel it only appropriate that I explain what I have been doing with myself as well as re-introducing myself to those who I once knew and introducing myself to those who I have yet to meet or converse with. I am Carlos Alcazar, I joined OBC in 1996, which seems like an incredibly long time ago everytime I type it or read it. At the time I joined I was a young man of 13 and for the next several years I got the opportunity to talk to and share a common interest as well as experiences with a diverse and interesting group of people. During this time I was able to have at least one contribution that I'm rather proud of as the present uv mailing list that some of you have probably had the chance to use was created by myself to help solve the then "hot-button" issue of where the uv related thanks, requests, etc would go. Moving on... Sometime after 9/11 (everything in the world always seems to revolve around this now), my mother who worked as a consultant for a branch of the Ontario Government had her contract terminated and remained unemployed for a period of about 6 months. During this period and in the immediate aftermath as you might imagine cards were placed on the back burner as OBC dues or even postage to for sending cards would have constituted a non-essential expense with the families income greatly By the middle of 2002 most of these issues surrounding finances were essentially resolved but then another new institution came to occupy a large portion of my time (and even larger portion of my money) as I entered the University of Guelph Ontario for the beginning of a 4 year To bring you guys and gals up to date as to what I've been up to the last 4 years can then be done in the following summary: - I entered University for an undergraduate degree in Management Economics - I completed a year of the program, decided for various reasons it wasn't something I wanted to continue doing and I changed my major to - I lost 80 pounds, gained about 20 of it back in muscle as I started working out on a semi-regular basis for health reasons. - I spent literally the last 2 years almost exclusively in Guelph, including summer as I spent a whole summer semester "taking classes," which given the 'difficulty' of the summer offerings can best be described as lounging around my house, calling up my buddy and going to the bar to enjoy the occasional "beverage" and talk about nothing in particular strictly for amusement. Fast forward to this April I finally graduated my 4 year honours degree in history in essentially three years. And now I suddenly have my time back and find myself able to indulge in my hobby again. I suppose this then is a nice long-winded way of saying that I'm back and to ask if the person or people responsible could please adjust my inactive status to that alternate option. Thanks very much and I look forward to getting to know some of the many unfamiliar names and getting reacquinted with the more familiar ones, ================= Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:39:24 -0400 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: 33 lefty catchers From: "Jim Beauchemin" To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Stan Musial Postcard cut from March/April 1991 Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:33:19 -0400 ================= Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 06:28:29 -0700 (PDT) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Help verifying the 1968 SCFC set? This eBay listing shows a group of hand-drawn cards from a "1968 SCFC" set, which I haven't seen before and can't find in the SCD big book. Anyone run across this one before and know if the asking price of $10 + shipping is a fair http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8814254877&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: , Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 08:52:20 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win a Zeenut! - we have a winner! Thanks Andy, that was fun. I pays to read the OBC Bio page, once I knew you grew up in LA it was pretty -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of typecard@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:25 PM To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] answer the question and win a Zeenut! - we have a winner! And the winner of the 1923 Zeenut is Bob Donaldson who correctly guessed the great second baseman of my hometown LA Dodgers -- Davey Lopes! I have a 1923 Zeenut of Essick (nice image, name has been rubbed off, but it's Essick of Vernon PCL) for the first person to correctly answer this Twice between about 1977 and 1983 I was in attendance at a game where this player led off the bottom of the first inning with a home run. Who is SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of ================= To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:56:52 -0400 From: "Bob Reed" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 33 lefty catchers A little side note on Chris Short He actually never caught in a game. He was announced in the starting by Gene Mauch in an effort to conceal his starting pitcher and was replaced in the top of the first inning. It happened on June 29, 1961. According to baseballlibrary.com here's the story: Manager Gene Mauch's efforts to conceal his starting pitcher and force Al Dark's hand has a Phillie lineup including hurlers Don Ferrarese (batting leadoff, playing CF), Jim Owens (3rd, RF), Chris Short (7th, C), and Ken Lehman (9th, P) against San Francisco. The top of the first inning resulted in these changes: GIANTS 1ST: DEL GRECO REPLACED FERRARESE (PLAYING CF); B. SMITH REPLACED OWENS (PLAYING RF); COKER REPLACED SHORT (PLAYING C ); >From: keithsummers@webtv.net >To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 33 lefty catchers >Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:39:24 -0400 >>Chris Short ================= To: "obc ramblings" , Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:11:09 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Help verifying the 1968 SCFC set? I don't know much about this set but a complete 1969 set of 78 cards sold the other day on eBay for $33.33 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-1969-SCFC-Baseball-Card-Complete-Set-w-Ruth_W0QQitemZ8800522913QQcategoryZ60497QQcmdZViewIte= Zindlers has many of these cards for sale at approximately the eBay starting bid price, so the auction prices would not be a bargain from that standpoint either (http://www.zindlers.com/cgi-bin/quikstore.cgi). Zindlers has both 1968 and 1969 cards. Also, Josh Levine and Mike Rich have some of these cards on their want list. -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew To: obc ramblings Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:28 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Help verifying the 1968 SCFC set? This eBay listing shows a group of hand-drawn cards from a "1968 SCFC" set, which I haven't seen before and can't find in the SCD big book. Anyone run across this one before and know if the asking price of $10 + shipping is a http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item8814254877&rd1&sspagenameSTRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd1 Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: , "alcattle" Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:31:22 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Missing person report Anyone here that can send an email to cw.youth@verizon.net and let Mikeee Coffee Breath know about the search party? It seems like my mail domain and his do not like each other...or maybe it's everyone else too? OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: alcattle To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Missing person report Brian and I are trying to track down Mikey D-a-mont-tee. All his phone numbers have changed, his email box is too full and no word of him in years, ok a couple days. If anyone knows a way to reach to ex-coffe boy, please contact us or the FBI. Thanks, A concern citizen. Big Al in Seattle SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "'Brian Lindholme'" , Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 05:54:23 -0700 From: "Grant" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Missing person report I emailed him there last Thusday, but haven=92t heard back yet=85 Anyone here that can send an email to HYPERLINK "mailto:cw.youth@verizon.net"cw.youth@verizon.net and let Mikeee Coffee Breath know about the search party? It seems like my mail domain and his do not like each other...or maybe it's everyone else too? OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:alcattle@yahoo.com"alcattle To: HYPERLINK Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Missing person report Brian and I are trying to track down Mikey D-a-mont-tee. All his phone numbers have changed, his email box is too full and no word of him in years, ok a couple days. If anyone knows a way to reach to ex-coffe boy, please contact us or the FBI. Thanks, A concern citizen. 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GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings"OBC-Ramblings" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 5/19/2006 ================= Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 13:54:18 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Massimo" Subject: What are the best websites to buy cards? What dealer sites have the best selection and/or prices? ================= To: "Tom Massimo" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:05:06 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What are the best websites to buy cards? I know for older pre-war stuff I've had good luck with Mark Macrae, who is an OBC member. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Tom Massimo" > What dealer sites have the best selection and/or prices? > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:02:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken M" Subject: Re: Missing person report Mike put in a request for some cards on my recent availables list last week, he should be getting messages from the server... unless someone asked in his stead and forged the e-mail signature. Maybe his captors were being very Ken M --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "alcattle" wrote: > Brian and I are trying to track down Mikey D-a-mont-tee. All his phone > numbers have changed, his email box is too full and no word of him in > years, ok a couple days. If anyone knows a way to reach to ex-coffe > boy, please contact us or the FBI. Thanks, A concern citizen. > Big Al in Seattle ================= Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 20:01:43 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "alcattle" Subject: call off the dogs I have prove that the coffee guru is alive and not hiding, Thanks for youe concerns and help, more reports to follow. Big Al in Seattle ================= Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 23:17:14 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "alcattle" Subject: Unk Phil Found and visiting Seattle! He has been in town for a week for a seminar and in the "hang-around" days he is going to the Game Monday and we hooked up for lunch. I forgot how young he is, or just how old I am getting. He could still get carded in the bars, I get asked about the senior discount at Denny's. We went a joint south of Safeco Field called Pecos Pit. Some of the PNW-OBC'ers have been there. There are 7 things on the menu, 5 sandwiches, beans and sodas. We all got a sandwich and a soda, and I was thinking, no way I will fill up on that, so I got another sandwich to take to work. I went for the HOT BBQ sauce and it was quite spicy. Phil and friend Judy went for mild and commented it hit the taste buds nicely. Another fellow trader, Tim Shanlasky (SP?) joined us for the visit but passed on Breakfast? We all had good chat about many things gone by and many towns in Wisconsin that start with "M". After a dozen napkins worth of stuffing my mouth, I had to depart and hear to work. They were going find a different soert of refreshment and hang out for the game. Still always a great day when you can chew the fat (none on the sandwiches) with these great guys. Big Al in Seattle ================= To: Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 05:57:10 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Subject: Question: Scanning software What do you guys use to scan cards? Is there an easy to use program that can be set up with standard parameters that would allow you to scan a standard size card with the simple push of a button? I haven't done any scanningin a long time but the software I used to use was slow and I always had topull out a calculator to change the size. ================= Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:11:19 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Send in the Clowns-Indianapolis, that is! One of my favorite card sets was issued by the Laughlin Co. in 1976 and detailed a bygone era in baseball when barnstorming teams also relied on entertainment and humor to entertain baseball audiences. Since i enjoy dressing in 1920's period clothes and singing and dancing ragtime and early jazz era songs, i really like the Indianapolis Clowns. The Clowns were a really colorful team made up of midgets,one-armed players,dancers and funny men with names like Spec Bebop,Nature Boy,King Tut,The Great Yogi,Prince Jo Henry,Nub Anderson and..Hank Aaron?? How did that name get in there?Yes, he was a member of the Clowns at one time! The business manager of the Clowns was Ed Hamman who was a former clown and i love his motto,"I'd rather make a million people laugh than make a million dollars!" Those were the days before greed and multi million dollar players and steriods other problems plagued the game today. I have created an album in Photos here where i uploaded some pics of the Clowns cards from the Laughlin Set.There is even a card of Ed Hamman in a clown outfit and a card of Hank Aaron in a Clowns uniform when he was with them. I would love to see Hank Aaron at a big card show and ask him if he remembers any funny stories about his days with the Indianapolis Clowns.It would be fun to show him that card with a pic of him in a Clowns uniform and ask him how much fun he had playing with those I should mention that the team wasn't all men- They also had a very good woman player too.Her name was Toni Stone and she is on card # 27. The great Satchell Paige was also a member of the Clowns in 1967.He is pictured on card # 21. I highly recommend picking up this Laughlin Indianapolis Clowns set from 1967 if you ever see it on ebay or at card shows.I have bought the set for as little as $5 at a local card show.-Linda ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 06:45:52 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: Hoops in need of help Hello All, I am in search of these few: 1975-76 basketball ex (3 more) #2,44,55(fraizer) upgrades ex up ##51,75(maravich),90(jabbar) 1976-77 topps vg/ex condition (6 more)#1(erving),50(barry),60(maravich),98(monroe),127(erving as),140(macdoo) upgrades to exmt #18,37,48,97,134,143 1977-78 vg up condition (2 more to go) #73(gervin),100(evring) I have about 70 extra 1976/77 & 50 extra 70/71 tall boys to trade . Anthony Arbeeny ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:41:02 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: Sugar daddy cards from 74 & maybe 75 Hello All, Can anyone tell me more about them. I know there is basketball,fb & hockey ones. ANy info would be greatly apreiciated. ================= To: Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:46:40 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Subject: eBay user email addreses Is it possible to contact other eBay users anymore? You used to be able toand it seems like there was a way to turn on the display of email addresses. Maybe they've shut that down to hinder transactions off their system. ================= To: chuckparis@comcast.net Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 16:51:15 -0400 From: Bob Saxton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay user email addreses If you go to the eBay site, click on "Community" at the top. On the next screen type the username of the person you want to contact, sometimes a partial name will work. Then click on "Find Member" and it will give you a list of members with that word in the user name. Click on the username you want and you will get their profile with a link to click to "Contact On Thu, 25 May 2006 12:46:40 -0400 "Chuck Paris" Is it possible to contact other eBay users anymore? You used to be able to and it seems like there was a way to turn on the display of email addresses. Maybe they've shut that down to hinder transactions off their SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 15:01:45 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "larrygersh" Subject: Chicago Bound for Memorial Weekend To all the OBC-Chicago bretheren: I will be traveling to the Windy City Saturday AM to visit my daughter for the weekend. The hi-lite of the trip will be a visit to Wrigley Field on Monday afternoon to watch my Reds battle the Cubs. My son-in-law has season tickets some 20 or so rows behind home plate. If you are in attendance that day look for my OBC hat and drop by to say hello. I'm told by my daughter we will visit the King Tut display on Saturday afternoon. Yawn...I rather visit a card shop, any suggestion? ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 16:28:54 -0400 From: "Mac Wubben" Subject: 50 Callahan baseball--Greatly need set, starter, or a few cards Willing to trade or buy for any cards from the set. A full set would be great, but anything would be appreciated. Anybody have any of these Thanks in advance! ================= Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 02:30:50 -0700 (PDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Daniel P Coen" Subject: [Fwd: Brown's Cooperstown Update] OBC Members in the Seattle area, See the attached email for a local vintage card trade night taking place on the 31st. ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Brown's Cooperstown Update From: "Pete Brown - Brown's Cooperstown" Date: Tue, May 23, 2006 4:49 pm To: bcooperstown@qwest.net May 23, 2006 To: Friends and Customers of Brown's Cooperstown From: Pete Brown 2006 Finest Baseball has now arrived at Brown's Cooperstown! Beautiful Finest technology - the base set has bright RED backgrounds, and there are loads of serial numbered Refractors and X-Fractors with backgrounds of Gold, Blue, Green and White. Some refractors are autographed! There are also a host of Rookie Cards (autographed and not) including Mariners catcher Kenji Johjima's Finest RC and autograph! Along with Fleer Greats of the Game (which is also in stock) are the first of the high end baseball products of the season, and collectors who have the money and enjoy the beautiful technology will surely be pleased. I am now officially announcing a Vintage Card Trade Night (pre-1980 cards in baseball, football & basketball) on Wednesday, May 31 from 4 pm to 8 pm. There are two individuals already signed up, and if you wish to participate for even a small portion of the trade night, let me know what you are looking for and what you plan to bring to trade, and I will communicate with the rest of those who plan to attend. The store will also remain open for regular business until 6 pm, but from 6 to 8 pm we will concentrate on the trading. Brown's Cooperstown will be an equal partner in the trading my cards for yours in a 1:1 value ratio. We will also be willing to sell supplies and newer packs and boxes during the trade night, but we'll try to restrict the vintage cards to trading only. The Seattle Storm won their season opener on Sunday night, and they play again tonight at Key arena, and the Mariners have been showing signs of life and improvement. Did everyone see the throw from Ichiro to Kenji last Friday night? Come in to talk Seattle Sports and to add to your Pete Brown ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 09:06:39 -0400 From: "ant" Subject: Sugur daddy answers I had 3 people respond: Ted from TB: http://www.tradingcardcentral.com/articles/2005/03/01_003_001.php Tim fritz supplied: They are very small cards (a little smaller than the old T206s). They werepackaged with Nabisco Sugar Daddy candies, so some times the back can still be a little sticky. The 74s do look a little different than the 75s. The 74s have less of a design on the front. Also the 74s will sometimes havea @1973 PFI on the back and sometimes nothing. I don't which one is more rare. The 75s alway seem to have a @1975 PFI on the back. My 2001 price guide has the sets at $150 in NM, Here are the cards in each set. 1 - Staubach 2 - Floyd Little 3 - Steve Owens 4 - Roman Gabriel 5 - Bobby Douglas 6 - John Gilliam 7 - Bob Lilly 8 - John Brockington 9 - Jim Plunkett 10 - Greg Landry 11 - Phil Esposito 12 - Dennis Hull 13 - Reg Fleming 14 - Garry Unger 15 - Derek Sanderson 16 - Jerry Korab 17 - Oscar Robertson 18 - Spencer Haywood 19 - Jo Jo White 20 - Connie Hawkins 21 - Nate Thurmond 22 - Mickey Redmond 23 - Chet Walker 24 - Calvin Murphy 25 - Jabbar 1 - Staubach 2 - Little 3 - Alan Page 4 - Merlin Olsen 5 - Wally Chamber 6 - Gilliam 7 - Lilly 8 - Brockington 9 - Plunkett 10 - Willie Lanier 11 - Esposito 12 - Hull 13 - Brad Park 14 - Tom Lysiak 15 - Bernie Parent 16 - Redmond 17 - Jerry Sloan 18 - Haywood 19 - Lanier 20 - Hawkins 21 - Geoff Petrie 22 - Don Awrey 23 - Chet Walker 24 - McaDoo 25 - Jabbar & then Mike Rich chipped away with more: There sets each had 25 cards. Issued in 1974, 1975, 1976 series I and 1976Series 1974 first 10 were FB. not sure on rest. 1975 first 10 FB, 11-16 hockey and 17-25 basketball. 1976 Series I: scenes from assorted sports, covering the Wide Worldof 1976 Series II: 25 more sports featured. I got most of this info from my annual Beckett FB & Basketball guides. It looks like I will start this set but I am working on a trade to secure agood portion. They are really cool looking Thanks to all Anthony Arbeeny ================= Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 18:04:06 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: A special card dealer I thought you guys would want to hear about this. Some of you may remember that I have given John Morrison some ringing endorsements in the past. I sincerely believe that he is in a class by himself as far as dealers go. I had yet another example this week and I wanted you all to hear about it. You need to understand, I seldom spend a great deal of money buying cards from John. A $20-30 purchase from John on ebay would be a big one for me. I just don't have that much money in my budget to spend on cards, so it is usually a common here or there in our dealings. I recently spent $26. with him and thought I was stretching a bit. You get the picture. Anyway, I get a message from him the other day. He wants to know if I still need these two cards from the '70 Fleer Laughlin set that he saw on my wantlist. I tell him that I only need one of them to complete the set. He says he will send it to me -FREE OF CHARGE. How many dealers do things like that? I don't know many (any). P.S. If you have a wantlist that you would like a dealer to go over - one who is fair with pricing and will probably underrate his cards - I strongly suggest you write to _oldbbcards@aol.com_ (mailto:oldbbcards@aol.com) . ================= Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 16:08:55 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: OBCAC Attention Please As one of the first members of OBC back in the early '90s, I have been struggling for quite some time with making a decision. I have a very emotional attachment to this group for numerous reasons, just as we all do. It's important to be decisive in life, however; and I think it is time for me to move off the dime. I would like to request that I be put on the inactive OBC list. You may still hear from me now and then, especially all those guys I still owe as I try to find ways to catch up with them; but, for now, the nature of my dealings will change. I will enjoy keeping up with what is going on by following the mailings and hope that I will continue to receive them, but my inactive status will give me a chance to gain some perspective. Maybe I will be back one day. I want to wish everyone the best of luck in their futures and in the future of OBC. OBC - much appreciated. ================= Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 20:41:30 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: availables Hi everyone- Just a quick note to let everyone know that I haven't completely disappeared from the face of the planet, collecting-wise, and offer up some availables. I went to a show a couple months ago and picked up a pair of 1960 Fleer Williams - one of which I already have, so #7 is yours for the asking. I also have some oddball Babe Ruth stuff - one is probably from a quiz game, another showing a baseball getting knocked out of the park under the title "Babe Ruth", the third has a drawing of Ruth's face, and on the back drawings of parts of his face (this one is pretty weird). Also an Olympics Great "Jesse Owens", and a dozen 75 minis + Berra/Campanella MVP card Just ask for anything that you want and include you mailing address - special OBC Memorial Day sale, everything is 100% off :). ================= To: octraders@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 06:35:48 +0000 From: "John Scott Gray" Subject: waiver wire offers My friends, I got my hands on a random group of baseball cards at my local flea market -- without taking the time to put them in the dupes box, I thought I would place them on the waiver wire. If you see any you need, just let me know (most of these are in vg condition, but I went ahead and marked the worst ones on the list with a p). If I owe you (which is highly likely, given my recent inactivity) let me know, and your request will go to the front of the Be happy, John Scott Gray 1961 Topps: 31, 151 1962 Topps: 49, 561 (p). 1963 Topps: 37 (p), 42, 47, 50, 58, 66, 100, 107, 109 (p), 127, 136, 404. 1967 Topps: 93 (p), 167, 179, 367, 373 (p), 428. 1968 Topps: 18, 49, 51 (p), 64, 71, 76, 93, 108, 109 (p), 111, 125, 136, 143, 176, 187, 190, 192, 193, 199, 213, 215, 229, 233, 242, 244 (p), 253, 255, 258, 261 (p), 264, 267 (p), 272, 273, 276, 278, 310, 333, 337, 343 (p), 346, 348, 351 (p), 392, 449. 1969 Topps: 204 (p) ================= To: "obc" Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 06:09:35 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Who needs these............Speak up..... Its not much.......but I have 2 1970 Topps Story booklets just itching for new homes.....Obviously, I am a horrible host for these 2 ...#12- Mike Epstein and #16- Dennis Menke.... Ken Goetsch-OBC ================= Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 18:43:03 EDT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: 1962 Topps question Hello fellow cardboardians, I hope that you are well, enjoyed a prosperous holiday weekend and were able to extend a respective to a fallen hero today. I was hoping that someone could show me a photo of a 1962 #139 "Babe hits 60" card WITH the pole showing. I was shown one at a show this weekend and it was so subtle that I wasn't sure. If anyone has a scan or phot, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, and be well, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 19:20:13 EDT To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: my son's first wantlist It's the day every card collecting parent dreams of...my 8 year old son and I tonight wrote down his first official wantlist. For a couple years he's been pulling cards out of my dupes based on how he liked the pictures, but now he's going to collect his first set. My wife's comment "and now it begins...." A proud day in the collecting world ================= Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 22:46:19 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Available:Lower condition cards from estate sale Yesterday i went to an estate sale that advertised antiques and a collection of old baseball cards.There was a lot of old furnature, paintings and jewlelry at the sale but i was waiting for the shoe box with old cards to be auctioned off.Naturally a few dealers or other collectors willing to pay a lot more for the cards than me showed up too and the box went for over $300.But fortunately as i was leaving the sale i noticed the winner of the lot throwing some of the cards in a trash can.I asked him why he was throwing some away and he replied they were damaged and worthless to him.I snatched them up right away just after he left because when i saw topps blue backs, 52 Topps,53 bowmans and an old tobacco card from a set i don't recognize being discarded i knew some OBCers would apprecite having the cards.Here is what is available: Topps Blue Back # 14- George Munger-scotch tape at top and bottem 33 Goudey # 69-Randy Moore-paper loss at upper right dosen't affect portrait of player-otherwise pretty nice condition(not from the sale but i thought i would offer it anyway-Pic of the card is here in the photos section in the Tipton cards album) 52 topps # 84RB-Vernon Stephens-paper loss in name box 54 Bowman # 105-Sal Maglie-hole at top of card 53 Bowman color # 72-Ted Gray-"34" written in blue ink at top of card Tobacco card from unknown set-doesn't look like a t205 or t206 to me- most of back has paper loss from probably being in album-also paper loss in upper right hand corner-player is Leach,Cincinnati in blue letters-Player has a cap with a "P" on it.Player is bending over and about a 3/4 view Ted Williams 59 Fleer #1-"The Early Years" -creases but card has fantastic centering looks like dead on 50-50 all the way around.One of nicest centered 59 Fleers i have seen.Unfortunately though, it has a lot of creases. 64 topps hi # 577-Gordy Coleman-lot of creases 54 Bowman # 169-Larry Jansen-top right corner has paper loss 54 Bowman # 18-Hoot Evers-top right corner torn off 1951 Bowman # 154-Pete Suder-creases 53 Topps # 99-Dave Madison -stain and about a 1.5" narrow crease/scuff running from the bottom of the card vertically up between the E in Dave and the M in Madison 54 topps # 124-Marion Fricano-2 tiny hole punches at top 64 topps # 35- Eddie Mathews-ball point pen writing on front Let me know if you want any of the above cards-Linda ================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 07:25:11 -0400 To: smartalecx@aol.com From: Originaleek@webtv.net Not sure how you got in and out of Detroit without the OBC Member alert going out to the FOOT? As for Comerica, yes it's a great place to see a ballgame and we are proud of it, but...... it's not Tiger Stadium. Like my old baseball cards, the old stadium at Michigan & Trumble was well Spent the holiday around Detroit, and got to take in a game at Comerica. The FOOT members have been underselling this place -- it was absolutely beautiful ! Would have a hard time saying it didn't rival my beloved Wrigley. To add to it, Saturday night at the park was perfect weather, and there was a great fireworks show after. Only downsides I saw -- $8 beers (if you can down a 24 oz. can with no problem, I guess it's a bargin), and getting out of the parking lots was a bit slow. A great time at an underappreciated park! ================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:22:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: Need ID help on set from non-sport experts here like Rittenberg All members are familiar with the Bell Brand potatoe chip baseball and football cards of the late 50's and early 60's.I have some of the baseball cards and look for them on ebay and at shows.They are nice glossy cards and seem to have better eye appeal than the topps cards from the same years.At least Tim told me when he was a kid you could trade 1 Bell Brand card for 5 topps cards.He said he traded a Bell Brand Koufax for a 61 Mantle, Maris;62 Mantle , Maris and a 63 Mantle.He found he could trade his Bell Brand cards of Dodgers he didn't want for Yankee topps cards he wanted. Does anyone here own or have any information on the name of the set or # of cards in the set of a Bell Brand non sport cards set from 1960 which have cartoon characters?I never see any of these cards at shows and they very infrequently show up on ebay and usually in very low grade.I finally won one of them on ebay- # 6282983155.There is a picture of the card at the listing and the one i won is # 11- Seymour The Dinosaur. I would greatly appreciate any information on these cards from the non sport experts here.Why do these cards, when they infrequently do show up on ebay always show up with creases and in low grade?Does any member have any of the cards from this set in Ex condition?Does any member here have any of the cards in this Bell Brand non sport set or any information on this set? ================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:23 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Linda" Subject: What did the 5 TD against Notre Dame FB player do as a pro? Even though i graduated from UCLA and one of my favorite FB players is Gary Beban, a quaterback, i also like the halfbacks. One of my favorites was a USC player who scored 5 Td's in a game against Notre Dame.What happened to Anthony Davis after college?I don't remember reading much about him as a pro. Also what happened to the great UCLA quarterback Gary Beban?Did he play for any pro teams? If some of the members who claimed cards from my latest offering are wondering what cards i might like in return i would appreciate any cards of Gary Beban or Anthony Davis as a pro. Guys at the card shop told me Davis had an uneventful career as a pro.Suprising to me because this guy was a Heisman runner up and scored 5 Td's in a game against powerhouse Notre Dame. I wonder if Reggie Bush will be the next USC Anthony DavisBig time Heisman player in college, a forgotten nobody as a pro. I see a lot of local collectors buying boxes of Prestige FB looking for Reggie Bush rookie cards.They say the card books for $20 to $25. I wonder if 5 years from now Bush will be finished as a pro and another nobody New Orleans Saints card worth 25 cents or less. Also i noticed Bush will be signing at this weekends West Coast Sports Collectors Expo at Hollywood park racetrack.A local dealer told me Bush will be charging over $100 for his auto.This guy hasn't even played a single pro game and wants over $100 an auto?-Linda ================= To: Friar4@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:12:56 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [VCT] A special card dealer From: Friar4@aol.com From: Friar4@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com Subject: [VCT] A special card dealer Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 22:04:15 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline -- Check out the VCT website at: http://www.vintagecardtraders.com -- Interested in your own VCT e-mail address? Let Dan know today! -- E-mail the entire group at vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com ================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:19:20 -0400 To: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What did the 5 TD against Notre Dame FB player do as a -----Original Message----- From: Linda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:40:23 -0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] What did the 5 TD against Notre Dame FB player do as a pro? Gary Beban played 5 or so years with the Washington Redskins where at the end they wanted to make him a defensive back. He retired saying if he couldnt make it at a qb he wouldnt try at what he may be second best at. Antjhony Davis played about 3 years with the Tampa bay Bucs when he died of some sort of blood disease that hits the African American population with more regularity than most. I am sure some one has more knowledge than myself on subject so shot holes in my answers as sometime my memory isnt what i remeber it to be Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: "Linda" , Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:51:39 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] What did the 5 TD against Notre Dame FB player do as a pro? I remember that game well, I was about 11 or 12. Notre Dame was up something like 24-0 and ended up losing 55-24 or something like that. Broke my heart. ================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:09:44 EDT To: LUURSCJG@aol.com, Jazzgirl1920s@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What did the 5 TD against Notre Dame FB player do as a pro? In a message dated 5/31/2006 7:21:06 PM Central Daylight Time, LUURSCJG@aol.com writes: Antjhony Davis played about 3 years with the Tampa bay Bucs when he died of some sort of blood disease that hits the African American population with more regularity than most. I am sure some one has more knowledge than myself on subject so shot holes in my answers as sometime my memory isnt what i remeber it to be ray: while anthony davis did play 3 years with TB, i think you are referring to ernie davis regarding his death. anthony davis is still alive. from espn classic The honors came early and often, from the time he started with organized sports. Ernie Davis succeeded at every venue, a three-sport standout in high school, a two-time All-American halfback at Syracuse. Davis rushed for 2,386 yards and scored 220 points for the Orangemen.He led Elmira (N.Y.) Free Academy to a 52-game winning streak in basketball and as a Syracuse sophomore helped the Orangemen gain their only national football championship. As a senior in 1961, he became the first African-American to receive the Heisman Trophy and was the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft. And then, stunningly, he was gone. Struck down by leukemia, Davis never realized his dream of playing in the NFL. In March 1963, while in remission, Davis wrote an article for The Saturday Evening Post in which he said, "Some people say I am unlucky. I don't believe it. And I don't want to sound as if I am particularly brave or unusual. Sometimes I still get down, and sometimes I feel sorry for myself. Nobody is just one thing all the time. "But when I look back I can't call myself unlucky. My 23rd birthday was December 14. In these years I have had more than most people get in a lifetime." Two months later, Davis died.