================= Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 09:29:18 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Dan Angland Subject: New Year Availables Happy New Year Everyone! Heres a couple if anybody needs them. Please send me your address. Thanks, Dan Angland 1957 # 58 1961 21, 168 1962 358 1963 151 1965 171 1966 363 Let me know because I want to get these out before I leave for work to Vegas Baby. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ================= To: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 11:10:01 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: availables anyone need any 70 topps football posters and glossy inserts? I have in theglossy, nobis, antwine, and snell. I have 18 posters lmk what you need . thanks, ================= Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 19:43:49 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: DZK auction late item - Stanford football cards of Elway, others I thought of another item that may be of interest - a group of at least 3 five-card panels of Stanford football athletes, including Elway and Holloway, each panel was issued for a specific game in 1991 to commemorate the Universities' 100th anniversary. Anyone willing to donate $10 or more to the auction, please email me in the next couple days and I will accomomdate as many folks as happy new year ! ================= To: Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 20:36:38 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Contacting Doug Smith I talked to Doug Smith yesterday. I told him that I had reservations aboutsending a message to the server with his future address but he had none. So here it is: inmate douglas s smith register # 33806-177 federal medical center fort worth po box 15330 ft worth tx 76119 The information will also be available at the Bureau of Prisons website www.bop.gov ================= Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:05:03 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "showmesavants" Subject: Need help finding this book... I've been looking for "Baseball Advertising Trade Cards" by Frank Keetz for a while now and have had absolutely no luck. Was wondering if anyone might have a copy or know of one available somewhere? A more detailed description of this item is: "An 84-page, 8-1/2 x 11, softcover book written by Frank Keetz, long-time collector of trade cards having a baseball theme, and of baseball memorabilia in general. This book is the 2nd edition of Frank's original 34-page,1980 edition, and has been expanded to provide a checklist of over 330 cards, 64 illustrations, and a price Thanks for any info you may have on this one. ================= To: , Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:37:30 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need help finding this book... I know that Frank is from the Albany, NY area. His son Ed promoted the cardshows there that I build a large foundation of my pre-war card collection from... They used to hold that show monthly, then quarterly ,at the Polish-AmericanHall in Albany and occasionally in Saratoga. I should have picked up a book (or books...) years ago as they were in abundance there then. Jerry Coker now lives pretty close to that area...Jerry have you heard about the show recently or even worse, of it's demise? Randy Kniffin would know...and some of you know him (he's a dear old friend of mine) This task will probably take some networking but through this group, all ispossible! Anyone else have some thoughts? OBC Forever, ----- Original Message ----- From: showmesavants To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need help finding this book... I've been looking for "Baseball Advertising Trade Cards" by Frank Keetz for a while now and have had absolutely no luck. Was wondering if anyone might have a copy or know of one available somewhere? A more detailed description of this item is: "An 84-page, 8-1/2 x 11, softcover book written by Frank Keetz, long-time collector of trade cards having a baseball theme, and of baseball memorabilia in general. This book is the 2nd edition of Frank's original 34-page,1980 edition, and has been expanded to provide a checklist of over 330 cards, 64 illustrations, and a price Thanks for any info you may have on this one. SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:41:02 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: Late 70's Topps Sets Hey gang: Happy New Year to all! I have finally started rearranging all the crap in my basement (you know, the stuff you hang on to for 20 or 30 years then find out it's worthless when you do an eBay search) and am about to start transferring my 76-80 Topps baseball sets from binders to boxes in an effort to save room. Before I do so, is anybody interested in trading for these? 76-79 sets are in binders, the 80 is in an 800 ct box. Condition is probably a little better than normal OBC quality but some stars are definitely Tipton. Probably too expensive to mail but I'm sure an in person exchange at some point could be arranged. In the category of "nobody's probably interested but I figure I'll ask anyway", I also have about 100 baseball books I am looking to transfer out of here as well, plus a huge stash of mid to late 80's SABR materials. The books a roughly 80's vintage, with a couple of older ones thrown in. I've culled my various collections down over the past year or so and am looking to move these items to a new home. I also have a few thousand UV stars and oddballs and about 2000 really nice 1978 Topps Football commons I can describe further off list if anyone is interested. Before the missus and I host a garage sale in the spring, I am looking to trade these items; not sell them although I may toss a couple of the scarcer books up on eBay. In addition to what's on my card wantlist, I would primarily be looking for Brooklyn Dodgers books I do not have in return or old Sporting News Guides. Old Sport Americana Price Guides might also work in trade. Well, if anyone has an interest or specific inquiry, let me know off list. ================= Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:49:54 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: For you PCL enthusiasts _http://cgi.ebay.com/Pacific-Coast-League-Baseball-News-Score-Cards-1916_W0QQi (http://cgi.ebay.com/Pacific-Coast-League-Baseball-News-Score-Cards-1916_W0QQitemZ6591684 ================= Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:00:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: 1970 Topps Supers on Ebay This may be the first time I have sent an Ebay listing to the group. This seller has a few lots that are misidentified or poorly described that may result in some bargains. He has most of the short prints in this grouping of 1970 Topps Supers, but labels them 1969 big cards. I am already bidding on some of his Armour and Salada coins (Armour not labelled correctly either). http://cgi.ebay.com/TOPPS-1969-BIG- Good Luck. Mike Rich ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 01:38:17 -0500 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: Thrift store finds! / What team is this? (pic of logo attached) ================= To: keithsummers@webtv.net, OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:45:25 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Thrift store finds! / What team is this? (pic of logo attached) From: keithsummers@webtv.net From: keithsummers@webtv.net To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Thrift store finds! / What team is this? (pic of logo attached) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 06:38:26 +0000 Content-Description: Video snapshot Content-Description: Video snapshot Content-Disposition: Inline; filename=snapshot.jpg ================= To: , Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:53:26 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Thrift store finds! / What team is this? (pic of logo attached) Mark is correct, that=92s a Barons logo. -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of talbot1@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:45 PM To: keithsummers@webtv.net; OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Thrift store finds! / What team is this? (pic of logo attached) Looks to me to be the Birmingham Barons, they are a White Sox affilate - I think this where Michael Jordan attempted to make it in baseball. Let's see what others might think??? REGARDS --------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: keithsummers@webtv.net Be sure you guys check out your local thrift stores! I picked up 10 sports collectors items in a 2 hour search in just one store! If you don't care, then discard now. Here's what I found: #1 EXC-NM 2004 Pittsburgh Steelers Media Guide for only 59=A2 plus tax! #2nice Minnesota Vikings ceramic mug 79=A2 #3 Sport Americana Baseball card price guide Number 5 (1983) for 59=A2 (I'll probably keep this for my baseball card reference library, unless I have 1 already) #4a neat 2002 Post Cereal baseball card collectors book (aka album) AND the vinyl pages for only 99=A2 (Anyone know the details on these? Mail in box tops & postage I assume) #51990 Baseball Card Engagement Book ($11.95 cover) w/Enos Slaughter on front (79=A2) It's a weekly planner with 52 stories/cards of older players through out. Very cool I think I'll keep this one for now! Other yrs starting from 1987 are available it says, so check ebay. #6General Mills Legends of the SEC (football) VHS tape (still sealed for only 25=A2) Shows Herschel Walker on back and Bo Jackson plus some righty QB with #11 on jersey but I can't tell the team logo since it is B&W. (Texas LongHorns maye? Joe Namath of ALA? Archie Manning?) #7 & #8 1991 and 1992 Braves World Series VHS tapes for $1.98 each! I had 95 already so now I have at least 3 yrs for my collection. #9full size plastic promo batting helmet of some team (see pic & LMK who it is!) for 39=A2 #10A NHRA (drag racing) seat cushion 79=A2 Also, I don't know if it works but I also got a webtv classic box (model 965) for only $1.48 + tax! Since they cost $100 new (I think) I figured I'd take a chance. You never know when lightning will come in from the phone line & zap me or my 1998 box will quit working :-) I got a Guiness World Record book for 39=A2 (hardcover 1997 with thick glossy color pages) and a DJ Jazzy Jeff/Fresh Prince (aka Will Smith) "Home Base" CD for $1.48 (12 songs). The Steelers media guide & Vikings mug are available for trading right now. Some of the other stuff "may" be after I watch them (or read them). Priority goes to those I already owe. Now, here's the pic.... what team is this? On the back it says CLASSIC ROCK 99.5 then RIVERCHASE INN at the GALLERIA and then NBC 13 NEWS. "FOTOBALL USA" and China is the only clue inside. I thought it said FOOTBALL at first. You can't really see the helmet but the logo shows up real well and that's all that counts in this case :-) Andy Cook, I finally wrapped your DZK stuff Monday night & it goes in Tuesday's mail by 1st class. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:05:09 -0500 To: meyergray@msn.com (John Scott Gray), From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: Barons/ Doug/ Personal Trading Cards /ZZ Bob Miller Thanks goes to ALL of the following 6 guys, in the order that they hit my mail box with Birmingham Barons as the answer to the logo: 4:01 AM EDT? J.S.Gray/Time may be wrong but bottom line is his message got to me 1st :-) 5:18 AM Don Rice 5:41 AM M. Holland (sent a nice scan of a hat) 8:37 AM Bob Reed (sent an auction link) ???? Mark Talbot ???? Shawn Adkins And YES, I "did" get the DZK pkg in the mail to Andy by the way! Also I sent a short note to Doug Smith today letting him know how I feel about his case & wishing him good luck etc, that will hopefully make it before he leaves Jan 6th. I sent my 2005 OBC PTC for him to autograph since he had already packed all his cards up (wife plans to move). I hope to eventually get an autographed version of all 24 cards from the 2005 OBC PTC set! Right now I only have: #10 Doug Smith (by next week I hope) #11 Marshall West #12 Mark Talbot (1st one I got I think) #14 Keith Summers #21 Brett Domue #22 Ray Luurs So that is only 25% of the set unless I forgot about one I have. Shawn may have the only complete OBC set signed, thanks to the John Ball auction & a $50+ bid! You can look in our DATABASE section of OBC-Ramblings YahooGroups & see the checklists of all known OBC PTCs from any years, in case anyone cares or did not know about it. If you have or know of a PTC of a OBC member that is NOT listed, LMK & I'll update the database. From the 1999 (or so) 20 card OBC B&W set I'm only missing John Jackson #18, & he is on my want list page. May be #19 since I never can remember. But thanks to Ken M's scan I have the image front & back which I printed on 110 lb stock & made into a temp card. All 20 were suppose to have signed a card & send it in for an OBC fundraiser but JJs card never made it. I can't remember if it was for ZZ Bob or Ryan The Teenage or Kevin Lohse. I also can't remember for sure if it was suppose to be sent originally to Doug, Spike or who but Ken M obtained it for the next auction fundraiser & that's how I got them. BTW I know the story of KL (died of cancer or such) but I never did hear the story about ZZ Bob (a house burned downed I know but what else )or Ryan, in case anyone can LMK. I'm told Rick Ellison was a good friend of ZZ. If you're reading Rick, please let us or at least me know :-) From the 4 card 2005 VCT set I think I'm only missing an autographed version of Don Roth, since I have #1 Jimi Thayer, myself #3 & #4 Talbot. Seems like Don may have mailed me a signed one too. Great Sugar Bowl game last night! My team came up short again just as my other 3 fav teams did most all year (Atlanta Falcons/ Oklahoma Sooners /Oakland Raiders). Well I better stop rambling before I mess up Morgantis perfect record for the top 10 longest OBC emails of all time! :-) ================= Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:32:49 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Type cards available: 1977 Tom Daniels Burleigh Grimes I recently picked up the 1977 Burleigh Grimes set for cheap. Having taken the #5, I've got the rest to distribute as type cards. They're black-and-white photos with blue borders and feature Grimes in various uniforms and often with other HOFers (including two with the Babe). The set numbers to 16 and includes him in uniform for the Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals, and as manager of Toronto's International League team. Let me know if you're interested in one or more and include your address if possible. Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. ================= To: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 16:59:37 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: 1953 Guns & Pistols....Help! A buddy of mine who has even weirder non-sport collecting habits than I do is looking to finish this set=85.he needs #6 and #45=85=85can anyone help, or maybe point me in the right direction? After all, he found me 2 of the last 3 cards I needed for the 1959 Canadian Popsicle Rockets card set (see what I mean by weird?), so I figure I owe him=85 Thanks for any help at all.. 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Thaks for looking, Tom Housley ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:43:04 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jerry Coker Subject: Need help finding this book > Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 11:37:30 -0800 > From: "Brian Lindholme" > Subject: Re: Need help finding this book... > Jerry Coker now lives pretty close to that > area...Jerry have you heard about the show recently > or even worse, of it's demise? Randy Kniffin would > know...and some of you know him (he's a dear old > friend of mine) Sorry I'm a little late on this. I'm behind in *all* my emails :) Anyway, I don't know about the existence of the show, but I met Randy recently and can contact him via email or I'll probably see him next Tuesday at the Rutland mall. LMK if you want Randy's email address. The email will actually go to his son because Randy told me he is shy about computers :) BTW...I think Randy must have roomed with someone(s) from OBC (Steve/Ken?) at a card show fairly recently. He asked about OBC and I think he wanted contact info. for some OBC individuals. LMK in a private email if you want me to give Randy that info. Jerry Coker Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. ================= Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:30:09 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Availables This is round two for a group of cards I posted before the Holidays. Please, don't be shy. Send me you address along with your reply. Thanks. 1959: 241 195 1961: 424 1963: 26 49 79 102 1964: 39 42 52 62 66 207 261 1965: 28 37 49 52 63 83 86 87 106 108 464 1966: 40 41 ================= Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 19:41:17 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: 2006 collecting goals In 2006, my goal is to finish: 1. 1961 Post (need about 2/3-3/4 of set) 2. T210-2 Old Mill (need 7 - been working on this for about 9 years) 3. 1931 Zeenut (need 4) any help is appreciated in any condition. Also, if you are collecting 1947-66 exhibits, send me your wantlist. I have a bunch in obc condition - preference given to people I owe or have short ================= Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:39:20 -0500 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: 2014 Tonight "may" be your last chance to talk with Doug Smiith until 2014. I called him Wednesday & he said he'd happily sign his PTC I had sent & return it in the SASE. I tried to get one for Shawn so he can complete his signed 2005 OBC PTC set (missing 3 still from the John Ball auction) but Doug said he had about 20 boxes of cards all packed up ready to go with the wife's move. Many of you guys have long lists of OBCers you've MET IN PERSON but I have a smaller list of OBCers I have talked to on the phone :-) #1 Alvin Autry (CALIF./friend since 1967) #2 "Rev" Kent Pool (Michigan/1992) #3 Larry "Guru" Tipton (Oklahoma/1992) #4 Uncle Phil C. (Milwaukee/1992) #5 Kent Goetsch (WISC/Jan 2004) #6 Linda Fatik (CALIF./Summer 2004) #7 Doug Smith (Texas/1-4-06) MET IN PERSON #1 Al Autry Anyway Doug said he MAY be able to get a PTC in the mail and he will check on it. As Steve said, he can't even get newspaper articles since the staff has to read them first & they do not want to take the time. He said he may have lucked out as far as getting to go to the place he is (half hospital & closest to the family/) but it still will be no picnic he stated. I wished him luck and that was it. About a 4 minute call, as he seemd to be in a hurry to get off the phone but maybe it was because I had left a message with his wife & he had called me back on his dime? Maybe it was since we were having trouble with overtalking on each other (overlap or whatever it is) since I was on my cell & he may have been too. It was 9PM in GA so being 6PM in Texas maybe his supper was ready? Anyway he didn't tell me to mention anything about him but I just wanted to remind you that he leaves Saturday the 6th so you might want to call tonight to be sure to catch him. I used the # in the OBC directory but I don't have it or the cell # handy at this time. Actually I threw both away as I figured they'd both be no good in a few weeks. Oh wait, I can retrieve it from my cell. Here's his home #: 817-329-5572 for anyone that cares. If it was me I'd be having a massive anxiety attack & probably considering suicide. He DID say he was doing pretty good when I talked with him however. But I don't think that means much. When people ask how I'm doing I usually say HALF DECENT unless I feel good. ================= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 06:05:13 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Available: more 1977 Tom Daniels Burleigh Grimes cards Hey guys, Several people claimed type cards from this 1970s oddball set, but ten remain. They feature Grimes as a Dodger, Cardinal, Cub, and manager. There are post-retirement photos, including him at the dedication of a ball field in his name. Let me know if you'd like one or two for your collection (please include Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. ================= To: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 15:42:33 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: M101-2 Sporting news These are from 1911...and make a nice display. Got a few real cheap, put them in cheap frames and they'll be on my office wall on Monday! Just thought I'd share a cool item... Back to your regularly scheduled ramblings! OBC Forever ================= Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 21:26:59 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Sad News about a truly great baseball icon A few you of might remember a couple of years ago when the Dodgers were bought by Frank McCourt, one of my best friends helped work on the deal. As a result, I went to opening day and got to sit in a suite next to the owner's suite. That was the day I met Rod Dedeaux. If you do not know the name, you should. He is the John Wooden of college baseball...he did play two games for the Dodgers in 1935 but he and I talked about his bat which he showed me with great pride and love was signed by many of the Hall of Famers he played with, coached, and was friends with including Seaver, Lasorda, Randy Johnson, Feller, Garvey, Randy Johnson, Jim Rice, Gil Hodges, Roy Campanella, McGuire, Don Newcombe, Don Sutton, Sandy Koufax, and a few other people he respected including two former presidents, actors, and friends. The man gave me nearly 45 minutes of his time before the game and five after and it was joy to meet him. Lasorda said he knew more about coaching than any two men he ever met including Dedeaux passed away Thursday and the news was buried with the loss of USC but if you want to read about it... _http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2282067_ (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2282067) I do plan to try to make it to the memorial. PS I went to Cal State Northridge but both my parents went to UCLA and I can not stand USC except when it comes to baseball. ================= To: "'Brian Lindholme'" , Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 18:28:17 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] M101-2 Sporting news And we get to see where you keep them, at least temporarily=85.on your pillow! What does Julie have to say about that? -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lindholme Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:43 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] M101-2 Sporting news These are from 1911...and make a nice display. Got a few real cheap, put them in cheap frames and they'll be on my office wall on Monday! Just thought I'd share a cool item... Back to your regularly scheduled ramblings! 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Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.15/223 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 19:11:52 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] M101-2 Sporting news Cooler than the "other side of the pillow ! " OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: hoot-owl@comcast.net To: Brian Lindholme Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] M101-2 Sporting news Those are cool. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Brian Lindholme" These are from 1911...and make a nice display. Got a few real cheap, put them in cheap frames and they'll be on my office wall on Monday! Just thought I'd share a cool item... Back to your regularly scheduled ramblings! OBC Forever SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 16:43:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "toppsrun368@peoplepc.com" Subject: Largest Helmar Offering Ever on Evilbay For those of you looking to make a splash on this set, start another, or have some dupes, I found this lot on Evilbay that ends tonight. Might be of interest to some. Probably easier than eating all the chips. : ) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8744723050&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:05:16 +0000 From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Largest Helmar Offering Ever on Evilbay Definitely easier than eating lots of chips. What may not be so palatable are the 300 1953-styled Pete Rose cards that you are forced to take with the Helmars. Sounds like a recipe for some serious indegestion! -------------- Original message -------------- From: "toppsrun368@peoplepc.com" > For those of you looking to make a splash on this set, start another, or have > some dupes, I found this lot on Evilbay that ends tonight. Might be of interest > to some. Probably easier than eating all the chips. : ) > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8744723050&ssPageName=ST > RK:MEWA:IT > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:19:59 -0500 From: "Mac Wubben" Subject: Anybody want to trade for a functional laptop I have a decent laptop to trade for cards if anybody is interested...Dell...500 mhz processor, 12 Gig hard drive, 256 ram, cd/dvd drive, windows XP. Anybody interested? ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 02:30:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: Please allow me to introduce myself. Hi, my name's Aaron Shirley, and I recently joined OBC. I've been kind of slow getting myself introduced to everyone, so I'd like to take a few minutes with the Ramblings server to introduce myself to all of you. Please, after you've read about me, take a minute to drop me a line to tell me about yourself. I'd like to get to know you all, what makes you tick, what and why you collect, all that good stuff. I have collected since 1982, and I've never collected any other sports besides baseball. I've just always loved baseball, and the cards were a part of that love since day one. Growing up in south central Illinois, my parents used to take me to games at Busch Stadium (RIP), and I got a chance to also go to games in Cincinnati and Chicago (Wrigley and Comiskey). In December of 2004, my family moved to a central Georgia town called Milledgeville, and last year, I got to add Turner Field to that short list. I'm a big Braves fan now, and I especially like learning the long history of "my" team, throughout its days in Boston, Milwaukee, and the last 40 years in Atlanta. Alas, in central Georgia, the card shops aren't as plentiful as they are close to St. Louis. So my sources kind of dried up for a while... Then last October, Bob Reed introduced me to OBC, the website and the great group of guys that form it. It's always a great part of my day when I come home and there is a package sitting on the TV from one (or even better two) of you! What do I collect? I have some broad and some very specific collecting areas. First thing is I am working on everything Topps has produced... ever. I know that is unattainable, but for me it's a hobby, and as I've said before, "the journey is just as fun as the destination." The top priority is of course the annual base set, but all the other stuff Topps makes... well, that's just part of the fun. Here's my main wantlist; check it out: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/ashirley.htm Second, as I mentioned already, is the BRAVES. And not just Atlanta. I've got a few favorite players, but basically anything old, with a Brave on it, is something I would like to collect... I have a page built specifically to work on my Braves lists: http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists/ashirleybraves.htm On this page, most of it is just dreaming. And really it's more a research project than a wantlist; it's just a place to create the list of cards I know of, and share it with anyone else who may want the information. But anyway, I love the Braves, and so do the kids at my church. Which reminds me. I am a youth minister... I did my internship close to Chicago (but still didn't really like the Cubs), then I was working in a church in the St. Louis area (go Cards) for close to 4 years, then moved to the church where I am currently, in Milledgeville. A few of the boys in the church collect baseball cards, and that has been a neat link between us. Especially cool is that the son of our worship minister collects, and I've been able to give him a lot of cards and see his hobby grow first-hand. His name is J.B., and he has two younger brothers that are starting to take an interest because they see us talking baseball and cards a lot. If you like, you can send me recent Braves stuff and I'll pass it on to him or one of the other kids. They love anything they get! After that, there are a handful of UV sets that have been produced in the last few years, mostly by Upper Deck and Fleer, that consist of players of the past or have "vintage" designs. I know, I know... they're flashy, but they're affordable cards of the players of the past - easily accessible to collectors of the present. And I like 'em. Fourth is a huge list of individual players I collect. It's summarized at the bottom of my wantlist page, so I won't go into it now... maybe I will post that list some other time. The only name I would like to get out there right now is LEW BROCKETT. He's an ancestral relative of mine who played for the New York Highlanders (Yankees) from 1907-1911. I don't know for sure what cards he has, besides an E254 Colgan's Chips card. This would be my absolute, number one, top wantlist card. Anyone who has ANY information about ANY cards - it would be appreciated! My grandpa (Dude) Brockett is 77 years old, and I would really like to show him those cards of our distant "cousin" - he would really love that. Well, there's about a million words about me. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I'm glad to be a part of a group of guys who share a nutty passion with me - both for baseball and the cards. I look forward to hearing from all of you soon. ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 04:31:23 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "uthminsta1" Subject: update to my introductory post Hi again... Several people emailed me in the few hours since I posted my introductory message, and have asked me for my mailing address. It Aaron Shirley 130 GMC ROAD MILLEDGEVILLE GA 31061 ================= To: , Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 21:52:52 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anybody want to trade for a functional laptop email me off-line regarding wat you seek in return.... OBC Forever, ----- Original Message ----- From: Mac Wubben To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anybody want to trade for a functional laptop I have a decent laptop to trade for cards if anybody is interested...Dell...500 mhz processor, 12 Gig hard drive, 256 ram, cd/dvd drive, windows XP. Anybody interested? SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 1:51:40 -0500 From: Subject: Doug... Hi all... I spoke with Doug Smith Sunday evening and, as Steve has said all along, he seemed to be doing as well as anyone could be doing given his situation. Today (Monday) is the day he reported to his new home for the next eight years and I'm sure he'd appreciate a note or two. While we were talking, he confirmed that he is not allowed to receive anything enclosed in an envelope other than letters, so cards are out. I suggested that perhaps we could just scan the front and back of a card and print it on the bottom of our notes, he could cut out front and back and glue 'em together to start a new type of set. He laughed a lot about that, joking that that would, indeed, be the typical OBC way of going about this challenge. If anyone else it interested, drop me a line and maybe we can coordinate our letters and some "do it yourself" baseball cards (maybe the '55 Topps Doubleheaders?). Take care... ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:50:54 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? I have an opportunity to enter into a partnership with a group of entrepreneurs who are proposing a very ambitious goal of providing a subscription service of baseball card checklists, coupled with recent (within the past year) actual eBay auction results, to provide a "real-world" baseball card price guide. They've expressed huge interest in licensing or purchasing my BBCI (Baseball Card Images) project for exclusive use. Since my kids are approaching high school age, and I've been more conscious about saving for their upcoming college education, this might be a chance to increase their college fund a little bit - anything would help. I would have an extremely difficult time selling off anything in my collection, and cards given to me by OBC members would definitely be non-negotiable. But this is a chance to sell my images collection, rather than any tangible cards themselves. 1) What would a fair price be to sell the entire BBCI project? Personally, I have no freakin' idea. It's taken a lot of hours, but as a labor of love (and a testament to Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder), not as a part-time job. If I was to ask $50, $5000, or $50,000, I have no clue what it's actually worth. 2) The project could be sold at a fixed price, say $1000, or licensed at say $50/month. The business is a typical start-up, with very little cash available up front. A purchase agreement means the image collection is no longer mine, while a leasing agreement would have an equivalent payback of about two years while I maintain ownership of the collection if they decide after a few months that it isn't worth any further attempt - Web start-ups have been known to fold historically. :) Which would be more beneficial? 3) (Read between the lines on this one.) I suppose it would be extremely unprofessional and unethical of me to say "Anyone interested in obtaining a copy of BBCI as it currently exists, for personal use, might do well to download the whole shootin' match from www.deliafamily.net right now, or any time before Feb. 1, and I can provide instructions and help on how to do that." My poor, tired-out Dell Dimension 2400 is having trouble with some large-scale data operations, including burning a CD of all the directories and data files in BBCI, so I can't really send out CD's of the project as easily as I used to do years ago. Now would be a good time to download the collection if you have a high-speed internet connection and an FTP client or a Windows command prompt available (most computers do). 4) The BBCI project scope is 1887-2005, but my images only span 1887-1976 or thereabouts. However, I mentioned to the entrepreneur that as a result of a burst of collecting enthusiasm in the early 2000's, I acquired almost a thousand different complete sets (no kidding!), all of which could be scanned and included in the project. This, he said, would also be a huge value-add to the proposal, and he would be interested in making me an offer as a paid employee to do what would amount to a shitload of scanning-related work along with MySQL database administration and programming. However, I think my current employment agreement with IBM may prohibit that, and I'm not really enthusiastic about getting paid minimum wage or future stock options to do a lot of I would appreciate any comments you might have on this proposal... Please copy my email address, wayne@deliafamily.net, as well as the OBC-Ramblings group, since I'm on a daily digest format and I'd like to see any comments as soon as possible without waiting until tomorrow morning. Wayne Delia, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "Look into my eyes and tell me if you see a trace of fear." (Joe Jackson, "Look Sharp!") ================= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:14:55 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: id help I got some cards , black and white pictures. players name in red. backs sayall time chicago white sox and list all positions 2 pitchers. I would appreciate help in identifying this set. also have dupes if anyone needs. thanks, kit okamuro ================= To: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:06:22 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Sutter's in! Check the link. http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/news/2006/060110.htm ================= To: "Wayne Delia" Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:12:26 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? Tough call - I hope somebody smart helps you out! I would lean towards thelicensing, but that's just a gut call - if it got big, I'd hate to have somebody getting rich and you only getting a few bucks. With a licensing agreement, at least if you only get a few bucks, you can still buy beer and not lose out on any upside! Good Luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Delia To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? I have an opportunity to enter into a partnership with a group of entrepreneurs who are proposing a very ambitious goal of providing a subscription service of baseball card checklists, coupled with recent (within the past year) actual eBay auction results, to provide a "real-world" baseball card price guide. They've expressed huge interest in licensing or purchasing my BBCI (Baseball Card Images) project for exclusive use. Since my kids are approaching high school age, and I've been more conscious about saving for their upcoming college education, this might be a chance to increase their college fund a little bit - anything would help. I would have an extremely difficult time selling off anything in my collection, and cards given to me by OBC members would definitely be non-negotiable. But this is a chance to sell my images collection, rather than any tangible cards themselves. 1) What would a fair price be to sell the entire BBCI project? Personally, I have no freakin' idea. It's taken a lot of hours, but as a labor of love (and a testament to Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder), not as a part-time job. If I was to ask $50, $5000, or $50,000, I have no clue what it's actually worth. 2) The project could be sold at a fixed price, say $1000, or licensed at say $50/month. The business is a typical start-up, with very little cash available up front. A purchase agreement means the image collection is no longer mine, while a leasing agreement would have an equivalent payback of about two years while I maintain ownership of the collection if they decide after a few months that it isn't worth any further attempt - Web start-ups have been known to fold historically. :) Which would be more beneficial? 3) (Read between the lines on this one.) I suppose it would be extremely unprofessional and unethical of me to say "Anyone interested in obtaining a copy of BBCI as it currently exists, for personal use, might do well to download the whole shootin' match from www.deliafamily.net right now, or any time before Feb. 1, and I can provide instructions and help on how to do that." My poor, tired-out Dell Dimension 2400 is having trouble with some large-scale data operations, including burning a CD of all the directories and data files in BBCI, so I can't really send out CD's of the project as easily as I used to do years ago. Now would be a good time to download the collection if you have a high-speed internet connection and an FTP client or a Windows command prompt available (most computers do). 4) The BBCI project scope is 1887-2005, but my images only span 1887-1976 or thereabouts. However, I mentioned to the entrepreneur that as a result of a burst of collecting enthusiasm in the early 2000's, I acquired almost a thousand different complete sets (no kidding!), all of which could be scanned and included in the project. This, he said, would also be a huge value-add to the proposal, and he would be interested in making me an offer as a paid employee to do what would amount to a shitload of scanning-related work along with MySQL database administration and programming. However, I think my current employment agreement with IBM may prohibit that, and I'm not really enthusiastic about getting paid minimum wage or future stock options to do a lot of I would appreciate any comments you might have on this proposal... Please copy my email address, wayne@deliafamily.net, as well as the OBC-Ramblings group, since I'm on a daily digest format and I'd like to see any comments as soon as possible without waiting until tomorrow morning. Wayne Delia, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "Look into my eyes and tell me if you see a trace of fear." (Joe Jackson,"Look YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:20:50 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] id help Hi Kit, Sounds like the 1980 TCMA All-Time White Sox set, but my cards have the name in red. Does it look like this, or is it a different design? http://obcspike.50megs.com/cgi-bin/i/type/1980_tcma_all-time_white_sox.jpg --- KIT OKAMURO wrote: > I got some cards , black and white pictures. players name in red. backs say > all time chicago white sox and list all positions 2 pitchers. I would > appreciate help in identifying this set. also have dupes if anyone needs. Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:30:03 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? Have to agree with Geno. History is littered with people who took the immediate payoff and missed out long-term. If there's a subscription service involved on their side, your scans will no doubt add a lot of value. Asking for a percentage of each subscription, even a small one, seems a wise choice. Assume you already have a good feeling about the guys involved? --- "geno.wagner" wrote: > Tough call - I hope somebody smart helps you out! I would lean towards the > licensing, but that's just a gut call - if it got big, I'd hate to have > somebody getting rich and you only getting a few bucks. With a licensing > agreement, at least if you only get a few bucks, you can still buy beer and > not lose out on any upside! Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: , Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:31:07 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? I passed along Wayne's email to a friend with some experience in licensing and negotiating. I've sent detailed comments to Wayne and I'll provide a short version here. As I understand it, Wayne has no ownership rights to the images he is considering selling/licensing. If the images are used for his benefit without anyone making money off it, then there are no problems. However, once he receives money, it may be viewed that Wayne has sold images and intellectual property belonging to Topps, without compensation to them. I know that Mike Wheat has/had an images CD he's tried to sell on ebay but I don't know what copyright hurdles he had to jump through, if any. Also, keep in mind that I'm not an attorney and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. ----- Original Message ----- From: geno.wagner To: Wayne Delia Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? Tough call - I hope somebody smart helps you out! I would lean towards the licensing, but that's just a gut call - if it got big, I'd hate to have somebody getting rich and you only getting a few bucks. With a licensing agreement, at least if you only get a few bucks, you can still buy beer and not lose out on any upside! Good Luck! ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Delia To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? I have an opportunity to enter into a partnership with a group of entrepreneurs who are proposing a very ambitious goal of providing a subscription service of baseball card checklists, coupled with recent (within the past year) actual eBay auction results, to provide a "real-world" baseball card price guide. They've expressed huge interest in licensing or purchasing my BBCI (Baseball Card Images) project for exclusive use. Since my kids are approaching high school age, and I've been more conscious about saving for their upcoming college education, this might be a chance to increase their college fund a little bit - anything would help. I would have an extremely difficult time selling off anything in my collection, and cards given to me by OBC members would definitely be non-negotiable. But this is a chance to sell my images collection, rather than any tangible cards themselves. 1) What would a fair price be to sell the entire BBCI project? Personally, I have no freakin' idea. It's taken a lot of hours, but as a labor of love (and a testament to Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder), not as a part-time job. If I was to ask $50, $5000, or $50,000, I have no clue what it's actually worth. 2) The project could be sold at a fixed price, say $1000, or licensed at say $50/month. The business is a typical start-up, with very little cash available up front. A purchase agreement means the image collection is no longer mine, while a leasing agreement would have an equivalent payback of about two years while I maintain ownership of the collection if they decide after a few months that it isn't worth any further attempt - Web start-ups have been known to fold historically. :) Which would be more beneficial? 3) (Read between the lines on this one.) I suppose it would be extremely unprofessional and unethical of me to say "Anyone interested in obtaining a copy of BBCI as it currently exists, for personal use, might do well to download the whole shootin' match from www.deliafamily.net right now, or any time before Feb. 1, and I can provide instructions and help on how to do that." My poor, tired-out Dell Dimension 2400 is having trouble with some large-scale data operations, including burning a CD of all the directories and data files in BBCI, so I can't really send out CD's of the project as easily as I used to do years ago. Now would be a good time to download the collection if you have a high-speed internet connection and an FTP client or a Windows command prompt available (most computers do). 4) The BBCI project scope is 1887-2005, but my images only span 1887-1976 or thereabouts. However, I mentioned to the entrepreneur that as a result of a burst of collecting enthusiasm in the early 2000's, I acquired almost a thousand different complete sets (no kidding!), all of which could be scanned and included in the project. This, he said, would also be a huge value-add to the proposal, and he would be interested in making me an offer as a paid employee to do what would amount to a shitload of scanning-related work along with MySQL database administration and programming. However, I think my current employment agreement with IBM may prohibit that, and I'm not really enthusiastic about getting paid minimum wage or future stock options to do a lot of I would appreciate any comments you might have on this proposal... Please copy my email address, wayne@deliafamily.net, as well as the OBC-Ramblings group, since I'm on a daily digest format and I'd like to see any comments as soon as possible without waiting until tomorrow morning. Wayne Delia, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "Look into my eyes and tell me if you see a trace of fear." (Joe Jackson, "Look Sharp!") SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:48:07 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Fwd: image project From: Smartalecx@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:05:58 EST Subject: image project To: wayne@deliafamily.net wayne: after recently having invested a lot of time and money in an internet startup that folded, i would NOT giveup the ownership of any of your projects without some sort of guarantees, i.e. they could "buy" a percentage, or get a better leasing arrangement, in exchange for some incentive clauses such as future stock options, etc. But initially, i think a straight leasing arrangement would be the best for you. as far as the value, i think it is well worth doing a little research on this. i suspect it is worth more than you think. take a look at what bill gates paid for his "virtual art museum". on the other hand, i am not sure, with your scanning of copyrighted materials, if you aren't running into some problems if you profit from then reselling those images. ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 05:25:18 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: How does Beckett do it then?? Steve -- I'm a bit surprised by that, since I can't imagine Beckett, SCD, Krause, etc are all paying royalties to the card companies for selling price guides that feature photos. What about everyone that sells a card on Ebay with the photo attached? I was always under the impression that Topps sold me the card, therefore it is mine to do with what I like. I'm not saying the attorney is wrong, just that I would get a second opinion! Take Care, Geno ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:06:38 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken M" Subject: Re: How does Beckett do it then?? I think it's different with Buckett, etc. in that they're selling a price guide, the actual photos. However, since Wayne IS potentially selling the photos to this startup company, it might be a good idea to be sure. Plus, I doubt that of the images are copyrighted... like the tobacco cards for instance? Maybe you can still sell those and throw in the Topps images for free? It's kindalike the eBay auctions I used to look for when I was flying to Vegas... Southwest airlines has a voucher for frequent fliers that's good for free round trip airfare anywhere they fly. It's completely transferrable. HOWEVER, the airline won't let you sell the voucher. People get around this by selling a book of drink coupons and throwing the ticket in for free. So I paid $200 or so for a $12 book of drink coupons and flew to Vegas ;-) Never did use those coupons Ken M --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "geno.wagner" < geno.wagner@n...> wrote: > Steve -- > I'm a bit surprised by that, since I can't imagine Beckett, SCD, Krause, etc > are all paying royalties to the card companies for selling price guides that > feature photos. What about everyone that sells a card on Ebay with the > photo attached? I was always under the impression that Topps sold me the > card, therefore it is mine to do with what I like. I'm not saying the > attorney is wrong, just that I would get a second opinion! > Take Care, Geno ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:43:22 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Need your advice: what is BBCI worth? In a message dated Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:50:54, Wayne Delia < wayne@deliafamily.net> writes: > I have an opportunity to enter into a partnership with a group of > entrepreneurs who are proposing a very ambitious goal of providing a > subscription service of baseball card checklists, coupled with recent > (within the past year) actual eBay auction results, to provide a > "real-world" baseball card price guide. They've expressed huge interest > in licensing or purchasing my BBCI (Baseball Card Images) project for > exclusive use. I like the option of getting a percentage of the profits. The way I look at it, there's 4 things that can happen: 1) You sell the project for x dollars and the company folds - you end up with x dollars. 2) You sell the project for x dollars and the company makes a fortune. You still end up with x dollars. 3) You lease the project for a % of the income and the company tanks. You only end up with enough money to buy a cup of coffee, but you still own theimage project you worked so hard to compile. 4) You lease the image project and the company takes off. You buy real cards to take the place of all the images in your project AND you still own the So, the worst case scenario is you get hardly any money. But up until now, you've never asked for any compensation for all your hard work, since it's been as you put it, 'a labor of love'. I wouldn't give up something you worked so hard to produce, especially if there's a chance that once you give up your rights to the project, it gets sold for even more money down the road... maybe a company that's fairly well established already? Odds are that a startup company isn't going to pay you what it's really worth anyway, so the idea of taking x amount of money for it doesn't make sense to me. My two bits and then Ken M ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:05:58 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Check out eBay: 1967 TOPPS ROD CAREW RC #569, NOT MINT, FILLER CARD (item 874 _Click here: eBay: 1967 TOPPS ROD CAREW RC #569, NOT MINT, FILLER CARD (item 8748373624 end time Jan-14-06 15:07:11 PST)_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/1967-TOPPS-ROD-CAREW-RC-569-NOT-MINT-FILLER-CARD_W0QQitemZ8748373624QQcategoryZ73439QQrdZ Its buy it now John Leroux ================= To: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:36:26 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: 10 and under list 1978 baseball, I need #s36.314.541.707.725.726. thanks for any help, kit okamuro ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:01:52 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Heathernewhall@aol.com, From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Environmentally-Friendly Business From: "Mitchell Rishe" To: "Alix Bearman" , Subject: Environmentally-Friendly Business Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:03:14 -0800 Dear Friends: I am in the early stages of developing what will be the most environmentally-friendly dry cleaner in the Los Angeles area, while providing superior customer service and cleaning. 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Mitchell Rishe m_rishe@yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:40:43 -0700 (MST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tknowles@sofast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: How does Beckett do it then?? What, Southwest doesn't serve 'froo-froo' drinks? ;) ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:44:54 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: t206guy@aol.com Subject: Baseball related flea market find. Help? Greetings all. I picked this up at an antique and flea market. It's baseball sized, made of dark brown leather or hide and is surprisingly hard for what appears to be an old hand stitched ball. It's softer than a modern ball but not much. I have included a picture that shows what I believe to be the final closure seam. Note that the seams are gathered to the outside of the ball(not tucked in) and therefore form a ridge around the seam. A curveball pitchers delight. Any info on the era or anything else you can let me know would be appreciated. All I know is that it looks good with some of my turn of the century gloves :) By the way, it is much darker than it appears in this picture. It looks like it was made of dark brown leather and I can't imagine that it was ever white like a modern ball. ================= Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:24:57 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Thanks for the replies and advice! Guys, thanks very much for all the replies to my questions. I really appreciate it and I think the best thing to do will be to take a few days or weeks and carefully think this over. Surprisingly, I heard back from my manager at IBM, who didn't see any kind of conflict of interest if I was to perform database-related programming work for the entrepreneur, even though I am paid by IBM to do the same thing. Special thanks to Steve R for going above and beyond the call of duty to smoke out some details I had never even considered. ================= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 05:58:48 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: UV but cool?!? OBCers -- Disclaimer: This is UV, but more along the lines of the Helmar cards! I was looking on Ebay for T202 beaters a few weeks ago and saw the 1993 Upper Deck T202-style cards. I bought a set out of curiousity and received them today. I must admit, they are really nice cards! The center panels feature some really cool B&W photos of guys and the player selection is an HOM dream! Out of 165 cards, there are the standard Mantle, Mays, and Ruth kind of guys (by the way, the center panel of Ruth is really cool). But mixed in there are guys like Glenn Beckert, Minnie Minoso, and Mark Fidrych. Like I said, the center panels make it worth it - Rick Monday's shows him rescuing the flag at Dodger Stadium, Elroy Face has the strangest looking hat you ever saw, Moose Skowron hanging upside down after being upended, etc. The last 30 or so cards are all really nice, colorful collage-type paintings mixing stars from different eras. OK, back to pre-1981, but I thought if you ever see this set you might want to take a look because it's definitely a keeper (and the only UV one I own)! Take Care, ================= To: Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:42:16 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: 69 decals available have wilhelm, aparicio, helms, howard, mccarver, killebrew, mincher, tiant,and mccovey. lmk, kit okamuro ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:10:03 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: OBC Elections -- Nominations open February 1 Content-Language: en No need to do anything yet other than start to think about nominations OBCAC Facilitator and Voting Members. It is important that you get permission from a potential nominee prior to submitting their name for nomination beginning February 1. Happy New Year to all. While I have not had much time for cards these past few months, I do have the privilege of serving as election commissioner for the OBCAC this year. Members shall serve on the OBCAC for one year from March 1, 2006 through February 28, 2007. I will be accepting nominations (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) from February 1 thru February 14 for candidates for both a non-voting OBCAC Facilitator and seven OBCAC voting members. A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions. Should the same member be elected to both positions, that member will choose to accept one of those positions, and the next highest vote recipient for the declined position will considered elected. Anyone who has been in OBC for at least 3 years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. This is critical =E2=93 please DO NOT submita name for nomination without first asking and receiving permission from the nominee. A nominee's acceptance is required. From February 15 through the end of the month, each OBC members should send their ballot to me (_smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) ) , listing their choices for seven voting Members and one non-voting Facilitator. I will send out a few reminders, but it is your responsibility submit a proper ballot within the appropriate timeframe. I will keep track of all The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election for OBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBCAC Voting members. The candidate withthe next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serve if there is a vacancy in the OBCAC. The member with the highest number of votes the election for OBCAC Facilitator will serve as OBCAC Facilitator. The Miss Congeniality award will be left to the discretion of the election I will release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. Actual vote totals shall be available privately for days after the election. Thanks for your particpation and cooperation. Gary Mandell ================= To: , Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:55:46 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Elections -- Nominations open February 1 If it's election time then it's time to start buying votes! Update those wantlists, send them out to the servers and watch your mailboxes!! OBC Forever OBCAC Voting Member 2004, 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: smartalecx@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: Smartalecx@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:10 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Elections -- Nominations open February 1 No need to do anything yet other than start to think about nominations OBCAC Facilitator and Voting Members. It is important that you get permission from a potential nominee prior to submitting their name for nomination beginning February 1. Happy New Year to all. While I have not had much time for cards these past few months, I do have the privilege of serving as election commissioner for the OBCAC this year. Members shall serve on the OBCAC for one year from March 1, 2006 through February 28, 2007. I will be accepting nominations (smartalecx@aol.com) from February 1 thruFebruary 14 for candidates for both a non-voting OBCAC Facilitator and seven OBCAC voting members. A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions. Should the same member be elected to both positions,that member will choose to accept one of those positions, and the next highest vote recipient for the declined position will be considered elected. Anyone who has been in OBC for at least 3 years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. This is critical =E2=93 please DO NOT submit a name for nomination without first asking and receiving permission from the nominee. A nominee's acceptance is required. From February 15 through the end of the month, each OBC members should send their ballot to me (smartalecx@aol.com), listing their choices for sevenvoting Members and one non-voting Facilitator. I will send out a few reminders, but it is your responsibility to submit a proper ballot within the appropriate timeframe. I will keep track of all ballots. The seven candidates with the highest number of votes in the election forOBCAC Voting Member will serve as OBCAC Voting members. The candidate with the next highest total will be an Alternate Voting Member, who will serveif there is a vacancy in the OBCAC. The member with the highest number ofvotes in the election for OBCAC Facilitator will serve as OBCAC Facilitator. The Miss Congeniality award will be left to the discretion of the election I will release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. Actual vote totals shall be available privately for 30 days after the election. Thanks for your particpation and cooperation. Gary Mandell SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:22:57 -0500 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: Doug / tooth advice sought Doug returned his PTC I sent along wih a SASE last week. He autographed it for me (anyone else have one?) & included a short note. I had sent a short note explaining my views on his case. He readily admits guilt and says he will now pay a big price. However the brief note did shed more light on the situation that I was previously unaware of. As a result I stand even more firmly with my view & comments that he does not need to be in prison 8 yrs wasting tax payers dollars. He also states if he had been prosecuted by Texas he would have gotten 2 years. But still, he states he is ashamed & has no excuse. I learned I have a bad tooth that if I get filled only has a 50% chance of holding. It'll be $155 for white resin filling ($133 for lower quality that is less likely to hold). A crown is $795 so I originally told them I'd just put the $155 toward the crown if the chances were no better than 50% of the filling holding. But now I'm considering having the tooth pulled. It is on the bottom & in the very back left. I was told that if a person was going to have a tooth pulled, that this is the one less likely to cause problems afterwards such as teeth shifting & the one above it falling out. My Dad says the one above will not fall out. My Mom says she had one pulled many yrs ago & the teeth on each side have NOT shifted nor has the one above fell out. Anyone here have any comments on this to help me make a decision? I did not get a price on an extraction but I'm thinking $200 or so which is 25% of the crown price. Even if it is $400, that saves me $395 still. They will let me make 3 payments of $265 for the crown. If I continue to ignore it (like I have for 2 years already) I'm told that it will eventually cause nerve damage & I will have to have a root canal. I think that was what I was told. And I've never had a root canal but based on what I have heard, I don't want to experience it :-) I have a low tolerance for pain & hate the needle injected novacaine. Last of all 3 things you should probably know before offering advice is: I'll be 43 in Feb, for what it's worth. I have already had my 4 wisdom teeth pulled when I got my braces off about 28 years ago so I have 28 teeth now. I have a very limited income which means $795 is a small fortune to me and obviously I have no insurance. So what do you think I should do? I don't have the OBC occupation list handy that John Leroux started yrs back (send me a copy!) but I'm hoping one of you is a dentist or an oral surgeon (or maybe have 1st hand experience) & can give some good advice :-) ================= Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:56:09 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Geno" Subject: Re: Doug / tooth advice sought I think that's the first time in OBC history that we've been consulted for dental advice. You just never know... Take Care, Geno --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, keithsummers@w... wrote: > Doug returned his PTC I sent along wih a SASE last week. He > autographed it for me (anyone else have one?) & included a short > I had sent a short note explaining my views on his case. He > admits guilt and says he will now pay a big price. However the > note did shed more light on the situation that I was previously > of. As a result I stand even more firmly with my view & comments > he does not need to be in prison 8 yrs wasting tax payers dollars. He > also states if he had been prosecuted by Texas he would have gotten 2 > years. But still, he states he is ashamed & has no excuse. > I learned I have a bad tooth that if I get filled only has a 50% > of holding. It'll be $155 for white resin filling ($133 for lower > quality that is less likely to hold). A crown is $795 so I > told them I'd just put the $155 toward the crown if the chances were no > better than 50% of the filling holding. But now I'm considering > the tooth pulled. It is on the bottom & in the very back left. I > told that if a person was going to have a tooth pulled, that this is the > one less likely to cause problems afterwards such as teeth shifting & > the one above it falling out. My Dad says the one above will not > out. My Mom says she had one pulled many yrs ago & the teeth on > side have NOT shifted nor has the one above fell out. Anyone here have > any comments on this to help me make a decision? I did not get a > on an extraction but I'm thinking $200 or so which is 25% of the > price. Even if it is $400, that saves me $395 still. They will let me > make 3 payments of $265 for the crown. If I continue to ignore it > I have for 2 years already) I'm told that it will eventually cause > damage & I will have to have a root canal. I think that was what I was > told. And I've never had a root canal but based on what I have heard, I > don't want to experience it :-) I have a low tolerance for pain & hate > the needle injected novacaine. Last of all 3 things you should > know before offering advice is: > I'll be 43 in Feb, for what it's worth. > I have already had my 4 wisdom teeth pulled when I got my braces > about 28 years ago so I have 28 teeth now. > I have a very limited income which means $795 is a small fortune to me > and obviously I have no insurance. > So what do you think I should do? I don't have the OBC occupation list > handy that John Leroux started yrs back (send me a copy!) but I'm > one of you is a dentist or an oral surgeon (or maybe have 1st hand > experience) & can give some good advice :-) > Thanks! ================= To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:30:12 -0500 From: "Bob Reed" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Doug / tooth advice sought Do what Joe Charboneau did. He pulled his own tooth with a pair of pliers and a bottle of Jack Daniels to numb the area. Twenty bucks ought to take care of it. Good luck. >From: keithsummers@webtv.net >To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Doug / tooth advice sought >Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:22:57 -0500 >So what do you think I should do? I don't have the OBC occupation list >handy that John Leroux started yrs back (send me a copy!) but I'm hoping >one of you is a dentist or an oral surgeon (or maybe have 1st hand >experience) & can give some good advice :-) ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:50:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Ken M" Subject: Re: Doug / tooth advice sought --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Geno" > I think that's the first time in OBC history that we've been > consulted for dental advice. You just never know... > Take Care, Geno Not true. I remember giving some advice to Jim Wiehe a few years ago before he was scheduled to go in for a root canal and was a bit apprehensive about the situation. It really isn't as bad as they make it out to be... unless opt to get one without any anesthetic I guess. I've invested a fortune in my mouth (insert your own joke here). I've lost track of how many root canals I've had, although I haven't had one in a while, mostly because there simply aren't any real teeth left in my head - in each case, I've had a crown put in after root canal and even though I have insurance, the insurance pays for only half of the crown and root canal... so I've probably paid for a good share of the Lexus my dentist drives. Keith, I don't really have any advice other than trust your dentist's judgement. It might be a coin flip now, but chances are the tooth will eventually break down and you'll have to go back for the more expensive dental work later. I guess you could have it filled now and start saving up in case things go south. One of the root canals I had done was after I had a tooth filled that the dentist pretty much told me the same thing yours told you. The cavity was 'really deep' and he said he'd fill it, but he wasn't sure it would hold. Well, it didn't the tooth abcessed - I can't even begin to describe how painful this was. I ended up going in for an emergency appointment the next day and had a root canal done right then anyway. So I ended up paying for the filling AND the root canal and crown afterwards. You might just have to bite the bullet on this one - but don't take that last sentence literally! Ken M ================= Date: 14 Jan 2006 16:49:53 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: Getting close!! After 3-4 year intensive search I finally lucked upon a 33 WWG Lazzeri which gets me down to 1 card to finish the set, Pepper Martin. If you happen to have this card lying around somewhere collecting dust :-), I'd be prepared to make it worth your while to consider bartering. I still am rather giddy over my good luck (found the Lazzeri in a mislabelled lot) and hope the collecting bug treats you all as well. Have an error-free season. ================= Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:51:02 -0500 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: tooth advice/Doug error I've had 2 dentists & a long time friend that is a dental hygienists (cleaner) all 3 tell me that it will probably not hold a filling. So I will check on the price of extraction & do that unless it is over $400. in which I'll go with a crown I guess. (Thanks Ken M & Mike W) BTW Bob Reed, I hope the result of Joe Charbeanuo's (sp?) Jack Daniels extraction ended up better than the rest of his career after that rookie season :) I think he was A.L. R.O.Y. in 1980 or so & then about 3 yrs later he was MLB history. I'm pretty sure that is the guy you mentioned. If not I messed that comment up. Doug had told me the card I was sending to be autoGd must get to him by SAT so I thought that is when he was leaving. But Jim was right because I found an old article I had printed about the sentencing & it did say REPORTS on the 9th (MONDAY). Sorry about that error. I hope I didn't cause someone to NOT call, that would have otherwise. He was at the Sante Fe Center (AFAIK) when I sent his box of PTCs so I wonder if he ever mailed any out when he got home, considering his total ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:53:34 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "jimbo777777" Subject: Helmars - Wanted and Available Available: Biddle, Crutchfield, Dalager, Dewhurst, Evers, Fujimoto, Gragg, Huggins, Jones, Kawakami, Lida, Rixey, Walker (Toledo). Needed: Benton-Harbor Barnstorming, Berg, Brewer, Brown, Daniels, Dewhirst, Dihigo, Flick, Goto, Hauster, McGraw, Percy Walker, Carnera, Grebe, Ketchel. ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 05:21:20 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: OBC Chats For those that are new or have forgotten, there are regular OBC chats scheduled for Sunday and Tuesday nites at 8:00 pm est. To be invited to a chat you must have an AIM. To be added to the address books of those of us that often initiate the chats, please post your AIMs to the ramblings server. You may also want to build your own address book of OBCers, and start chats if no one else does on the designated nites. Many of us also have unscheduled chats if we are on-line and enough others are on at the same time. Since I am among our technology challenged members, I do not recall how to obtain an AIM if you do not have one. I am sure others can help with that. The purpose of the chats is just to chat about anything with those you have a love of cards in common with. Although we usually discuss recent pick-ups, we often discuss how our favorite teams are doing, families, lives (note - we have been known to harass each other mercilessly), religion, politics, etc. Virtually nothing is off limits. As an inducement for participating in the chats, some of us offer items up on the waiver wire which are not posted to the servers. Therefore, only chat members that nite may have them made available to them, or at least first crack. hope to hear from you in the chats. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:05:35 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Chats AIM is easy......Got to the web and type in AOL.COM and there is an option for AIM Here is the website for AIM _http://www.aim.com/_ (http://www.aim.com/) Easy Directions Go For it Its free and all OBCers can have Chats Great Idea Mike Take care all and Lets all get AIM so we can have good ole OBC chats. Honestly Ive become Very Good Friends with many OBCers thans to AOL and aol chats so I think Its worth it....The Price of AIM is Free so hey the Price is what do you guys think? ROB Gioia ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:11:54 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: anybody have any new Paypal Coupons? Hi all anyone have any new Paypal coupon codes? Let me know ================= To: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:08:18 -0600 From: "Greg \(yaz\)" Subject: Very good Baseball Blog Ohmygosh, this blog has so much good baseball writing about both past and present, I'll be busy here for quite awhile. Check it out. I just finished astory about Indian Bob Johnson that was pretty fascinating. http://www.baseballanalysts.com/ Greg (yaz) ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:21:10 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: house warming thanx John MCLAUGHLIN sends a wonderful House warming gift . As most of you knwo I bought a new house 2 years ago, and was busting my tail working on it.....FInally i moved in on christmas eve.......its a great feeling. John sends 3 house warming gifts, 3 hits to my 55 topps set. John thank you for the house warming gift Rob Gioia "The Fireman" ================= Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:13:37 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: NEW ADDRESS Hello all Well FInally after 2 years of hard work I finally moved into my new The New Address is Robert Gioia 15 Montrose Station RD Montrose NY 10548 thanx all Rob Gioia " The FIREMAN" ================= Date: 16 Jan 2006 15:22:45 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: Doug "The Closer" Cleaned Up!! In a previous ramble I talked about getting close on the 33 WWG set, picking up a Lazzeri in a mislabelled lot and sending out a plea for the Martin to close out the set. Well no sooner did I send it out than Doug Chamberlain emails that he has the elusive Martin and is sending it. In my previous email I said I was feeling giddy for finding the Lazzeri; well, I'm now kinda drifting around in a daze. I've been putting this set together for about 10 years and these two cards had eluded me for 3-4 years, especially the Martin. I know of at least 3 more WWG collectors who currently also are looking for Pepper. My research tells me that numbers 60-94 are significantly more scarce (about 30%)than the low numbers and that there is probably an equal scarcity of English only backs compared to Fr/Eng backs. Of course the Martin is a hi #. This makes my pie in the sky goal of putting together both back variation sets a bit more daunting but ain't that what this group is about. I never thought I'd put both 33 and 34 WWG basic sets together so this is a special day. Thanks Doug for a significant moment, now let me go take my BP medicine as I feel more giddiness coming on. Have an error-free season ================= Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:01:02 -0800 (PST) To: obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: Dan Angland Subject: 1974 Topps Baseball Availables Hi everyone, Here are some 74's if anyone needs them, new guys , don't be shy. Please send address with your needs. Thanks, Dan Angland Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. ================= Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:27:53 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: OBC CHATS and AIM Hi all, Has anyone downloaded the America on line free version of AIM? If so drop us an email with your New AIM screen name so we can Buddy list it and invite you to OBC chats Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:15:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "b_betza" Subject: 71 Topps "Action pose" question My first (but probably not last) card question I should know the answer to but don't... Was 71 the first set to include "in action" poses of players? Brian (yes that new guy) Betza ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:36:42 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "b_betza" Subject: Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? I love this topic because everyone has his/her opinion and it's great to read other responses (be careful...this one can show your age!).... Here are my Top 5 (updated thru today-not that anything really cool happened today) 1) PSU defeating Miami in the 86 Fiesta Bowl.... was a Penn State student at the time... good guys beat bad guys (sorry any Miami fans out there!)awesome game!! 2)Kirk Gibson's HR vs. Oakland. The table was set for an impossible hero...and Kirk came thru vs. one of the best relievers in the game... 3)Buster Douglas defeats Tyson... My roommate was out during the fight so I got to watch this one alone... and try to convince him I wasn't joking that Tyson lost!!! Guess everyone likes to see the underdog win... 4)Miami Dolphins vs. SD Chargers playoff game --Kellen Winslow... hook and ladder... however you remember it.... classic game... 5)79 Pirates vs. Orioles.... was a bittersweet victory without my favorite shortstop, Frank Taveras (who was tradeed to the Mets) but I remember cringing every time Gary Roenicke (think I got his name right) came to the plate for the O's..... We are family..... Would love to hear anyone else's responses (can jog some memories!) Brian Betza P.S. My daughter's "career high" 4 point performance in her under 8 basketball game this past Saturday was a close #6!!! P.P.S. The beauty of this is you can change your list upon receipt of new info at any time!!! ================= To: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:53:16 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: my favorite moments usc thrashing notre dame scoring what 55 unanswered points in the 70s. I remember my dad went to take a shower at halftime thoroughly disgusted with the 1st half. he yelled out whats the score after shaving and I said usc iswinning. his reaction made that my favorite moment. #2 dwight clarks" the catch" #3 duran leonard 1st fight #4 pete rose hitting ray fosse in the all star game #5 vince carters dunk over the 7footer in the olympics ================= To: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:13:04 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: 2nd 5 #6 bo jackson running over brian bosworth 7 marcus allens cut back td run against the redskins in 83 super bowl #8dorothy hamill winning the gold in72 #9 seeing fred lynn a high school friend hit a grand slam in a all star game #10watching randy matson throw the shot put ================= To: "b_betza" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:20:18 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 71 Topps "Action pose" question Check out the `53 Bowman Color card of Pee Wee Reese, perhaps the most classic of all action shots captured on a baseball card. It seems to me that there are many prewar issues that capture action photos as well. REGARDS ------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: "b_betza" My first (but probably not last) card question I should know the answer to but don't... Was 71 the first set to include "in action" poses of players? Brian (yes that new guy) Betza YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:37:18 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: action most of the 56s have action on them ================= To: , Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:43:46 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 71 Topps "Action pose" question Brian -- The T202s of 1911 had great action shots on the center panel! Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: b_betza To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:15 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 71 Topps "Action pose" question My first (but probably not last) card question I should know the answer to but don't... Was 71 the first set to include "in action" poses of players? Brian (yes that new guy) Betza YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:35:02 EST To: talbot1@comcast.net, b_betza@yahoo.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 71 Topps "Action pose" question Actually, one of the most important and earliest set includes mostly action poses. The Old Judge set from 1886-1888 included hundreds of action shots although they were all posed. The T-206 set also includes some action shots. There are quite a few early sets that uses real photos and action pictures including the R312 Pastels, E94, E92, R313 Goudeys, 1948 Swell Sports Thrills just to name a few. A couple of Old Judge action shots... ================= To: , Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:34:36 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? Brian -- Mine are: 1) Cubs clinch playoffs in 1984 2) Bears win Super Bowl 3) 1980 US hockey team 4) Cubs - Phillies 23-22 game at Wrigley in late seventies 5) Illinois - Arizona game in last year's NCAA Tourney Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: b_betza To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? I love this topic because everyone has his/her opinion and it's great to read other responses (be careful...this one can show your age!).... Here are my Top 5 (updated thru today-not that anything really cool happened today) 1) PSU defeating Miami in the 86 Fiesta Bowl.... was a Penn State student at the time... good guys beat bad guys (sorry any Miami fans out there!)awesome game!! 2)Kirk Gibson's HR vs. Oakland. The table was set for an impossible hero...and Kirk came thru vs. one of the best relievers in the game... 3)Buster Douglas defeats Tyson... My roommate was out during the fight so I got to watch this one alone... and try to convince him I wasn't joking that Tyson lost!!! Guess everyone likes to see the underdog win... 4)Miami Dolphins vs. SD Chargers playoff game --Kellen Winslow... hook and ladder... however you remember it.... classic game... 5)79 Pirates vs. Orioles.... was a bittersweet victory without my favorite shortstop, Frank Taveras (who was tradeed to the Mets) but I remember cringing every time Gary Roenicke (think I got his name right) came to the plate for the O's..... We are family..... Would love to hear anyone else's responses (can jog some memories!) Brian Betza P.S. My daughter's "career high" 4 point performance in her under 8 basketball game this past Saturday was a close #6!!! P.P.S. The beauty of this is you can change your list upon receipt of new info at any time!!! SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:17:12 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: T202 back variations OBCers -- My newest long term (very long term!) project is the T202 set. To make it even harder and longer term, I'd like to get both back variations if they exist. To that end, I was wondering if any of you know if all the cards come with two backs (or more), or if each card only comes with one back. Since I am starting my collection with only one card, it is my test case!! So if any of you have "Scrambling Back to First" with Berger and Barger as end panels, I'd love to know what color the printing is on the back and what the factory number is. Mine is black with Factory 649, but I suspect there might be a red one with Factory 30 on it. If anybody can shed any light on it, I'd love to hear from you!! Take Care, Geno ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:21:28 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Test Case #2 OBCers -- In regard to my last email, I am bidding on a Lobert Almost Caught with Kling and Steinfeldt end panels. It is black printing with Factory 649 - does anyone else have this card? What is on the back as far as color and factory number? Take Care, Geno ================= To: "b_betza" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:05:54 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 71 Topps "Action pose" question The Topps World Series cards throughout the 60's had some nice action photos. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "b_betza" > My first (but probably not last) card question I should know the answer > to but don't... > Was 71 the first set to include "in action" poses of players? > Brian (yes that new guy) Betza > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:19:04 -0500 From: "Joe Isaac" Subject: message to Geno Since my reply to you has been delayed several times through hotmail, I am replying through this server. I accept your nomination. Thanks!! Now back to your regularly scheduled rambles. ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:29:24 -0800 (PST) To: "geno.wagner" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: Dan Angland Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1) 80 Us Hockey Team 2) Dave Parker's Throws in the All-Star game 3) Flute's pass in College 4) Aaron's Boones HR in ALCS 5) Cooperstown Thanks, Dan Angland "geno.wagner" wrote: Brian -- Mine are: 1) Cubs clinch playoffs in 1984 2) Bears win Super Bowl 3) 1980 US hockey team 4) Cubs - Phillies 23-22 game at Wrigley in late seventies 5) Illinois - Arizona game in last year's NCAA Tourney Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: b_betza To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? I love this topic because everyone has his/her opinion and it's great to read other responses (be careful...this one can show your age!).... Here are my Top 5 (updated thru today-not that anything really cool happened today) 1) PSU defeating Miami in the 86 Fiesta Bowl.... was a Penn State student at the time... good guys beat bad guys (sorry any Miami fans out there!)awesome game!! 2)Kirk Gibson's HR vs. Oakland. The table was set for an impossible hero...and Kirk came thru vs. one of the best relievers in the game... 3)Buster Douglas defeats Tyson... My roommate was out during the fight so I got to watch this one alone... and try to convince him I wasn't joking that Tyson lost!!! Guess everyone likes to see the underdog win... 4)Miami Dolphins vs. SD Chargers playoff game --Kellen Winslow... hook and ladder... however you remember it.... classic game... 5)79 Pirates vs. Orioles.... was a bittersweet victory without my favorite shortstop, Frank Taveras (who was tradeed to the Mets) but I remember cringing every time Gary Roenicke (think I got his name right) came to the plate for the O's..... We are family..... Would love to hear anyone else's responses (can jog some memories!) Brian Betza P.S. My daughter's "career high" 4 point performance in her under 8 basketball game this past Saturday was a close #6!!! P.P.S. The beauty of this is you can change your list upon receipt of new info at any time!!! SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. ================= To: "b_betza" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:11:29 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? Good Question! Tough to keep it to five though 1) Game 4 2004 WS Sox over Cards 2) July 19th 1970, my first BB game. Yaz hits HR in first at bat! 3) Game 6 1975 W/S Carlton Fisk 12th inning HR 4) May 10 1970 Bobby Orr's OT goal wins Stanley Cup 5) 1978? Cotton Bowl ND comeback led by Joe Montana against Texas ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:23:15 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: January Waiver WIRE Hello All, It it that time of the month where i go through my cards and have to put a few players on Waivers. They are all up for grabbs. Only thing is you have to Pay the remainder of their Contracts. most guys are making the league minimum so it wont effect the cap and Luxury Tax. So Claim away FCFS on these guys Rob "The Fireman" Gioia 1956 topps # 19 (white back) 1958 Topps #s 122,123,383,437 1959 Topps #s 128 1960 Topps #s 214, 225, 236 1963 Topps #s 102, 134, 316, 359 1964 Topps #s 102, 122 1966 Topps #s 171, 173 x2, 174, 176 X2 1967 Topps #s40, 51 1971 topps # 349, 420, 440, 461(X2), 699, 702 1973 Topps #s 401,539,543,587,602,636,639(x2),640 ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:57:14 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1. '04 Sox come back to beat Yankees in ALCS (many tears) 2. '04 Sox win World Series for World Championship I had been waiting 46 years to see. (many tears - maybe more) 3. '75 World Series Game 6 Red Sox over Reds in one of the most exciting, best played baseball games ever seen by this biased observer. Never mind Fisk, remember Bernie Carbo. 4. 1980 Olympics U.S. over Soviet Union "Do you believe in miracles?" and I don't even like hockey 5. July 1958 - Ted Williams hits homerun and almost a second for the last out in my first ever Red Sox game at Fenway Park. (46 years before 2004 closure of the dream) 6. PC almost beats eventual national champ Arizona in overtime in the regionals to get to Final Four 7. My Shepaug HS basketball team almost defeats #1 ranked Vin Baker led Old Lyme in Class S playoffs during my first and only year as the head coach. 8. 1962 - Jim Pagliaroni and Carroll Hardy provide my friend and me baseballs during batting practice at Fenway. 9. 1974 (I think) PC upsets #1 ranked Michigan at the Providence Civic 10. Watching classmate Jimmy Walker do almost anything he wanted to do as a collegian on a basketball court - 1963-67 11. Billy Donovan, Ernie D. and Marvin B. get PC to its only two Final Fours Sorry - I could not decide on only five. Hey, I'm old. ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:09:44 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:57:14 EST Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1. '04 Sox come back to beat Yankees in ALCS (many tears) 2. '04 Sox win World Series for World Championship I had been waiting 46 years to see. (many tears - maybe more) 3. '75 World Series Game 6 Red Sox over Reds in one of the most exciting, best played baseball games ever seen by this biased observer. Never mind Fisk, remember Bernie Carbo. 4. 1980 Olympics U.S. over Soviet Union "Do you believe in miracles?" and I don't even like hockey 5. July 1958 - Ted Williams hits homerun and almost a second for the last out in my first ever Red Sox game at Fenway Park. (46 years before 2004 closure of the dream) 6. PC almost beats eventual national champ Arizona in overtime in the regionals to get to Final Four 7. My Shepaug HS basketball team almost defeats #1 ranked Vin Baker led Old Lyme in Class S playoffs during my first and only year as the head coach. 8. 1962 - Jim Pagliaroni and Carroll Hardy provide my friend and me baseballs during batting practice at Fenway. 9. 1974 (I think) PC upsets #1 ranked Michigan at the Providence Civic 10. Watching classmate Jimmy Walker do almost anything he wanted to do as a collegian on a basketball court - 1963-67 11. Billy Donovan, Ernie D. and Marvin B. get PC to its only two Final Fours Sorry - I could not decide on only five. Hey, I'm old. ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:40:40 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? OBCers -- Howard Morgan is having email problems, so he asked me to pass along the Top Five sporting events of his lifetime: 1) David beats Goliath in mortal combat with a sling, ending the Philistines run of track and field dominance. 2) Some dude named Marathon runs 26 miles in a less than a day, breaking the previous best set by a guy named Five Kay. 3) After building Stonehenge, the Neolithic Britons decided to take a break. They divided into two sides for what turned out to be an intensely contested game of rock, paper, and scissors. Unfortunately, there was no paperor scissors in 3200 B.C., so it ended in a draw. 4) In one of the great fencing conquests of all time, King Arthur bests the Black Knight. Of course, the Black Knight had not been subjected to sucha splendind display of swordsmanship by any man prior to this event, so itwas indeed an upset win for the young Arthur. As for the Black Knight, hewas forced into retirement due to the loss of all four limbs. 5) The beginning and end of a dynasty - After losing the 1906 Fall Classicto the Sox, the Cubs take the 1907 World Series by sweeping the Tigers. The next year they do it again, taking down the Detroit Nine four games to one. Three-Finger Brown is asked how many the Cubs have in them, but because he has his good hand around a bottle of beer, he can only hold up his lame one, thus sealing the Cubs fate for years to come. Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: friar4@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1. '04 Sox come back to beat Yankees in ALCS (many tears) 2. '04 Sox win World Series for World Championship I had been waiting 46 years to see. (many tears - maybe more) 3. '75 World Series Game 6 Red Sox over Reds in one of the most exciting,best played baseball games ever seen by this biased observer. Never mind Fisk, remember Bernie Carbo. 4. 1980 Olympics U.S. over Soviet Union "Do you believe in miracles?" andI don't even like hockey 5. July 1958 - Ted Williams hits homerun and almost a second for the lastout in my first ever Red Sox game at Fenway Park. (46 years before 2004 closure of the dream) 6. PC almost beats eventual national champ Arizona in overtime in the regionals to get to Final Four 7. My Shepaug HS basketball team almost defeats #1 ranked Vin Baker led Old Lyme in Class S playoffs during my first and only year as the head coach. 8. 1962 - Jim Pagliaroni and Carroll Hardy provide my friend and me baseballs during batting practice at Fenway. 9. 1974 (I think) PC upsets #1 ranked Michigan at the Providence Civic Center. 10. Watching classmate Jimmy Walker do almost anything he wanted to do asa collegian on a basketball court - 1963-67 11. Billy Donovan, Ernie D. and Marvin B. get PC to its only two Final Fours Sorry - I could not decide on only five. Hey, I'm old. SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:45:55 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Favorite sports moments 1. My first game at Lambeau field, as Green Bay shuts out the Bills, 10-0. PACKERS WIN! 2. Last game at the Kingdome with Saint Al. Griffey Jr. homers, saves one at the fence, and M's WIN! 3. Watching the Red Sox come back against the Yankees--the Series was almost anticlimactic afterwards, but SOX WIN! 4. Gibson powers Eckersley out of the yard in the 1988 Series. DODGERS WIN! 5. Watching my alta mater, the UW Huskies, break Miami's home winning streak two years after "sharing" the National Championship with them. HUSKIES WIN! The Sonics championship in 1979 and Flutie's hail mary to beat Miami is close behind these. Wish I could enjoy the Mariners 2001 season more, but they couldn't get past the Yanks! Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:57:59 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1) August 1970 I went to my first baseball game. Almost didnt make as I found ou in late JUne this was going to be my HS graduation present early figuring out pitching rotation and the day of the game would be Bert Blyleven if there were no rainouts. Almost gave myself an ulcer waiing for the day. Bert pitched a 7-0 shutout against the Red Sox got to watch Harmon Killebrew get the first hi and the Congliaro brothers in the outfield. Priceless 2) 1985 er 6 however you look at it CHICAGO BEARS win Superbowl. 3) The year the Vikings went to Divisional playoff against Atlanta when Gary Anderson misses his only field goal of the year. You have to be a Bears fan in Minnesota to understand that one. 4) The only time i met Howard Cosell (It was an event) Those of you that know me know that alking isnt one of my problems bu this day he walk past us it was like he took the air out of the room... I had to get a friend to read my question because i was stuttering so much. Sepember 1987.........My son was born A few week before Twins clinch west title and then go one to win their first World Series ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:15:07 -0500 From: "Mac Wubben" Subject: My Top 5 (and bottom 5) My Bottom 5 are much more 5 Roland Gardner (sp? wrestler) (this could have been a top 5, but I was mad that I knew the result before I watched in on TV. 4 Steve Young's The Run...against the Vikings in the Championship game 3 Home Run #1 off of Byung Hyun Kim 2 Home Run #2 off of Kim 1 Gary Anderson miss/Vikings Collapes in 1999 or so against atlanta Top five 5. Mary Lou Retton's Vault in the 84 Olympics 4. Boston coming back to beat the evil empire. 3. Cal Ripken breaking Lou Gehrig's Record & hitting a home run 2. Jack Morris in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series 1. The Diamondbacks beating the evil empire. ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:17:14 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Joel Freedman Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports 1. A Pop Warner football game that went into overtime to decide the New England Championship. After the game ended with a win for our team, I find my son on the field and he said, I Love You Dad. 2. The Red Sox beating the Yankees in the 2004 ALCS. 3. Larry Bird stealing the ball and passing to DJ who laid it up and in to win a championship playoff game. 4. Tom Brady driving the length of the field to beat the Rams in the Super Bowl in the last minute and a half. All the while John Madden said, "take a knee and go into overtime". Bull! 5. Doug Flutie throwing a touchdown with no time on the clock against Miami to win a bowl game. Great question! ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:40:18 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: top 5 sports moments a lot of these have been mentioned, but here goes in no particular order 1. game 6 (?) of 75 world series with carbo hitting 2 and fisk hitting the game winner in the 13th (?) 2. mj hitting last second shots in 2 consecutive years to beat the cavs in the playoffs 3. seeing sandy koufax pitch twice at dodger stadium in 1966 4. 1980 us upset of russia hockey team 5. 6th inning of game six of 2003 nlcs when the realization hit me as i sat in wrigley that my cubs were going to the world series. anyone want to guess what my worst moment was? (see # 5 and add 20 minutes) ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:55:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Re: Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? Some of it's recent, some not so recent, but here is the list. 1. The 2004 Red Sox championship run (Growing up, I was laways a big White Sox fan. I also really liked the Red SOx. In 86, I was a freshman in high school. A couple of my buddies were Mets fans and they new I like the BoSox. After the ball rolled through Buck's legs, they plastered the newspaper photo of it on my locker for a week straight. From there, I had two choices, ditch the team amidst all the crap I was getting from my buddies, or defend them. I defended them and soon after, I was rooting for the Red Sox to beat the White Sox when my dad would take me to Comiskey.) 2. 2005 White Sox winning it all. (Without a doubt, they are my second favorite team in all of sports. After the Red Sox won in 04, I told my dad that it was his turn. Wow! The only problem was that they went through the Red SOx to get there. I never wanted to see the Sox vs. Sox in the playoffs. It was my worst nightmare. Not only was I devastated to see the Red Sox lose, but I couldn't even be happy for the White Sox. I prayed that they would get past the Angels so I could feel some joy. Their pitching was lights out. Homers by Podsednik and Bluhm . Just an unbelievable run. 3. Bears super bowl vic over the Pats (I was in 8th grade at the time. Now, I am a high school teacher. My seniors were born in 88. It's hard to believe it was that long ago.) 4. April 10, 1981. I came home from school and turned on the White Sox game. (White was still #1 at this point in my life) It was the season opener against the BoSox. The White Sox new catcher, Carlton Fisk, hit a three run homer in the 8th to lead the White Sox to vicxtory. He wore number 72, which is my birthyear. I had never seen a baseball player wear number 72. That fact, coupled with the homer, would instantly make me a Fisk fan. Still love him to this day. A few years ago, ESPN classic replayed this game. I have it on tape and watch it every once in a while. ) 5. USA beats the Russians. Watching the Olympics was a family event. We all sat in the living room and watch the Miracle upset. Honorable mention. -Jordan's last shot as a Bull to beat the Jazz -Steve Kerr hitting the winner against the Jazz in 97 -NIU football winning a bowl game in 04. This is a great ramble ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:50:52 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1. My oldest actual memory of a sports highlight- Maz hitting the game winning dinger in the 9th to beat the Evil Empire in 1960. Take 2. Canada/Russia Summit Series hockey 1972, our whole country=92s pride was at stake. Helluva comeback. We won. YESSSS=85.. 3. 1982 Stanley Cup- first time for the Canucks in the Finals, and I missed it due to a poorly planned wedding/honeymoon. Almost called it 4. Game 7 of the =9294 Stanley Cup- best game I have ever seen, we lost, but I had a LOT of fun in the ensuing riot downtown=85..=85Whack! Whack! 5. Angels winning it all a couple of years back, much like they will do again this year. And I have to throw in #6- the race for HR King in =9261 between Mantle and Maris=85.if the Mick hadn=92t gotten injured, who knows? It would be pretty easy to go for a hundred, but this will do. For now. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/233 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:25:10 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: the 1 memory i dont think anyone will forget joe theismans leg breaking ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:35:12 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "malsman250" Subject: sports memories Ok, I'll play - with a couple that come to mind. 1. Seeing the 1964 Cleveland Browns beat the Colts to win the NFL. I saw it on a snowy TV, and my dad had to go up on the roof to play with the antenna, because it wasn't televised in Cleveland (not a sellout!!) 2. The development of the fine Indians team in 1994 (until the strike) and then actually winning the Division in 1995. 3. Seeing my son pitch 5 scoreless innings to win the Regional Championship in the "Junior League" (13 year old Little League) state 4. The Cavs "Miracle of Richfield" season, winning two playoff series with an overmatched squad. ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 20:39:32 -0700 From: "Marshall West" Subject: Marshall's Top 5! ================= To: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:03:40 -0700 From: "Marshall West" Subject: Marshall's top 5 ================= Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:42:56 -0500 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: My Top 20 Sports Moments NOT mentioned so far, as far as I know.... My OCD wouldn't even let me cut it down to 10! But hey, it's just for fun so don't sweat it :-) MAZ goes deep in Game 7 of the 1960 WS as Pirates beat Yanks! (Hey MazHOF!) Hard to believe nobody has mentioned this or GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT yet, as of Gary's post. The 1972 USA basketbal team (Doug Collins etc) does NOT accept the Silver medal as a way of protesting the cheating Russians (52-51?) & the 2 other communists countries that voted against them (Cuba & ???) in the appeal process (3-2). I saw it live on TV (I think) at age 9. John Rocker gives the Mets fans the "3 games to none" sign as they jeer him walking to the dugout. (I saw it live on TV). I had to have 20 to get this one in. NY Islanders are down 3 games to NONE & win 4 straight in 1975! I don't even like hockey really. (Hey Sal!) Nolan Ryan mocks Brad "The Animal" ???? of the Reds by flexing his muscles & getting over excited as he strikes out one of Brad's teammates, after watching Brad do it several times previously :-) Aaron hits 715 off Al Downing 4-8-74. (Hey Lynn!) (I for sure saw it on TV live as I remember writing the date on the little orange kids chair behind me). Kirk Gibson's HRs off the Goose and dances around the bases with hands in the air! Cecil Fielder hits one OVER the roof as Sparky just shakes his head USA Golf guys rally late to win & get criticised in the media for cheering & celebrating. Sorry can't remember the event name or the stars since I do not like golf. Richard Petty in 1967 wins 27 races in a Plymouth, in ONE year, including 10 straight! USA hits HRs in 5 consecutive ABs in one inning in 96 Olympics vs Japan @ old Atlanta Stadium (I was there!) I got some nice shots of Sprayberry grad Kris Benson. 82 Atlanta Braves win 12th straight to start season to set MLB record at the time! (Al Autry & I was there for 2 of the 12 games!) Lindsey Scott goes about 80 yds with 1 minute left in game vs FLA to preserve GAs perfect season. They went on to win he National Championship vs Penn State (I think). Some guy named Walker was the star :-) I saw this live on TV! Marietta native Dale Ellis wins 3 point contest (1987?) and I think All Star MVP same year. Marietta's Dale Ellis plays against Chuck 7'5 Nevitt at Sprayberry High School in 1976 (I was there!) For Sandy Plains All Stars (1975/age 12) I pitched a complete 7IP game and K'd 10 as my team beat some other park's all Stars (Dad was coach/whole family watched!). 1975 "Cobb County" Dribble & Shoot Champ at age 12! Dad, Mom & brother were all there to see it :-) Was MGR & full time SS for co-ed church team that won Marietta city Championship in 1990s My cousin was in the OF and GrandPa in the stands (he died in 95)). Ok I'll stop at 3 with the personal stuff but my life has been mostly downhill since 95 so I had to get those 3 in :-) In about 1982 Luke Appling (I think that's his name/Braves hitting coach) at about age 82 (YES 82!) or so hit a HR (over the fence!) in the old timers game in Washington! Rick Camp (about career .087!) goes deep on a 0-2 pitch in about the 14th innning to tie game vs Mets for the 2nd time in extra innings on July 4th, 1985! Game finally ended at about 3:55 AM, then the 4 AM fireworks woke up half of Atlanta. That's 20 "not" mentioned previously (AFAIK), in no particular order! The 1980 USA hockey vs Russia game, Flutie pass vs Miami, Kirk's HR off Eck, Bills comeback vs Oilers in playoffs, Justice hits HR (Skip goes crazy), Horner hits 4 HRs in a game, QB Cordell Stewarts 65 yard pass for Colorado and Pitcher Tony Cloninger hits 2 Grand Slams in one game (almost gets a 3rd!) for the Braves in about 1966, makes a Top 28, but I could do a top 100 if I wanted too! Let's see, MGR Hal Macrae doing the pull & spin telephone toss, 29................... ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 02:42:50 EST To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: 2006 National information Hi all, Someone asked on the other server (Marshall I believe) about the upcoming National Convention. It's not too early to start making plans! There's evena dedicated OBC mail server, so any OBC'ers that plan to attend can share contact info, get tips on what to do before/during/after the show, which tables find the best deals or get into the pool on when Al Cummings will show up. The27th National Sports Collectors Convention will be held at the Anaheim Convention Center July 26-30, 2006. There's not a lot of info there now, but suspect that you'll be able to find out more as the event draws closer at (http://www.natlconv.com/index.shtml) Even if they don't update that page, all REAL info you need to know can be found at (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-National). If you're interested in joining us on the OBC-National e-mail list, you can contact either Bob Reed or me to get added. Anyone who attended last year's National in Chicago can attest that it's almost nonstop fun when a bunch of cardboard collecting nuts get together. I blocked off that week atwork as soon as the vacation calendar went up (plus I'm one of the more senior guys, so they like me to pick my weeks first). Saturday night is the traditional OBC swap session, which often times is better than the show... at least the prices are anyway. Hope to see a whole bunch of you on the left coast! Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:54:59 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Odd request In my district's infinite wisdom they finally upgraded my computer last year and gave me Excel and Word. This year they asked me to do more work on excel and to take stuff home assuming I had excel at home. I don't. I went back and told them that and asked for a copy and they refused saying that the site liscene was restricted. So now I am stuck. Is there a way (other than me buying a $50 program) to get excel on my computer at home? Let me know... ================= To: , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:03:38 -0600 From: "Greg \(yaz\)" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? 1. Red Sox come back to squash the 'Evil Empire' after being down 3-0. The following series with the Cardinals was a great monment but further down the list because we just knew after the Yankees went down we would be the 2. Kirk Gibson's lone AB in the 1988 World Series. With the magnificant setup and play-by-play of Vince Scully this moment of courage and skills by Gibson was magical. 3. Game 6 of the 1975 World Series. What a wonderful game to be the winner of and to watch. Fisk, Carbo, Evans. 4. The 'Impossible Dream'. On the final day of the 1967 baseball season, Yaz and Lonborg shine, beating the Twins and the Angels stop the Tigers. 5. "Havlicek steals it. Over to Sam Jones. Havlicek stole the ball! It's all over! Johnny Havlicek stole the ball!" Greg (yaz) ----- Original Message ----- From: "b_betza" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:36 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? >I love this topic because everyone has his/her opinion and it's great > to read other responses (be careful...this one can show your age!).... > Here are my Top 5 (updated thru today-not that anything really cool > happened today) > 1) PSU defeating Miami in the 86 Fiesta Bowl.... was a Penn State > student at the time... good guys beat bad guys (sorry any Miami fans > out there!)awesome game!! > 2)Kirk Gibson's HR vs. Oakland. The table was set for an impossible > hero...and Kirk came thru vs. one of the best relievers in the game... > 3)Buster Douglas defeats Tyson... My roommate was out during the > fight so I got to watch this one alone... and try to convince him I > wasn't joking that Tyson lost!!! Guess everyone likes to see the > underdog win... > 4)Miami Dolphins vs. SD Chargers playoff game --Kellen Winslow... > hook and ladder... however you remember it.... classic game... > 5)79 Pirates vs. Orioles.... was a bittersweet victory without my > favorite shortstop, Frank Taveras (who was tradeed to the Mets) but I > remember cringing every time Gary Roenicke (think I got his name > right) came to the plate for the O's..... We are family..... > Would love to hear anyone else's responses (can jog some memories!) > Brian Betza > P.S. My daughter's "career high" 4 point performance in her under 8 > basketball game this past Saturday was a close #6!!! > P.P.S. The beauty of this is you can change your list upon receipt of > new info at any time!!! > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:16:12 -0500 From: "Joe Isaac" Subject: Re: Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? Great topic. Here are my lists (in no particular order) during my lifetime: 1. Nadia Comaneci perfect 10 in the 1976 Summer Olympics. She was the first to score the gymnastic perfecto (and she is Romanian, like my wife, OK so I am biased) 2. 1980 USA Hockey Team - too bad this game was not shown live. 3. Hank Aaron's 715th HR - watched on TV and ran outside yelling when Tom House caught the ball) 4. 1966 Texas Western NCAA champion - imagine the hoops game today if this did not happen. 5. Cal Ripken's 2131 consecutive game. I never thought that Gehrig's record would be broke. ================= To: , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:16:47 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Odd request Actually, yes there is an easy way to do this. A site license does in fact cover a "second installation" that can be used at home (WAH). Not to mention the fact that if your employer has asked you to work from home, then it is their responsibility to provide you with the tools to perform their request. :-) Here's an excerpt from the MS Licensing website: For Office Professional Enterprise Edition 2003: Work at Home (WAH) License. For each license you acquire, the primary user of a device on which you run a separately licensed copy of the software (work device) may install and use one copy of the software on a home device (WAH user). If you upgrade the software on the work device, the WAH user may upgrade the copy on the home device. The WAH user's right to use the software terminates when the WAH user leaves your organization. At that time, the WAH user must remove the software from the home device. Hope this helps a little, -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wite3@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:55 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Odd request In my district's infinite wisdom they finally upgraded my computer last year and gave me Excel and Word. This year they asked me to do more work on excel and to take stuff home assuming I had excel at home. I don't. I went back and told them that and asked for a copy and they refused saying that the site liscene was restricted. So now I am stuck. Is there a way (other than me buying a $50 program) to get excel on my computer at home? Let me know... YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:31:10 -0800 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Odd request You need to be careful with this advice. I'm not sure that ALL editions ofExcel include a WAH license. I know the last version I used working for the State of Washington had a license agreement that clearly did NOT allow aWAH One likely alternative is to use the Open Office worksheet (www.openoffice.org). They have free, open source alternatives that are supposedly compatible with the Microsoft Office Suite. I know their spreadsheet can read andwrite Excel format files. I've not used it much myself as I have a legitimate copy of Excel to start with. Thus I don't know how far you can push the compatibility claim, but I do know that many people use the Open Office software for work-at-home purposes and are happy with it. Could save you the 50 bucks. -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: Shawn Adkins To: Wite3@aol.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Odd request Actually, yes there is an easy way to do this. A site license does in fact cover a "second installation" that can be used at home (WAH). Not to mention the fact that if your employer has asked you to work from home, then it is their responsibility to provide you with the tools to perform their request. Here's an excerpt from the MS Licensing website: For Office Professional Enterprise Edition 2003: Work at Home (WAH) License. For each license you acquire, the primary user of a device on which you run a separately licensed copy of the software (work device) may install and use one copy of the software on a home device (WAH user). If you upgrade the software on the work device, the WAH user may upgrade the copy on the home device. The WAH user's right to use the software terminates when the WAH user leaves your organization. At that time, the WAH user must remove the software from the home device. Hope this helps a little, -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wite3@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:55 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Odd request In my district's infinite wisdom they finally upgraded my computer last year and gave me Excel and Word. This year they asked me to do more work on excel and to take stuff home assuming I had excel at home. I don't. I went back and told them that and asked for a copy and they refused saying that the site liscene was restricted. So now I am stuck. Is there a way (other than me buying a $50 program) to get excel on my computer at home? Let me know... SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:15:55 EST To: shawn.adkins@showmesavants.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Odd request Content-Language: en Shawn, I did show this to my rep. a few days back and they said for security (?) reasons they did not want the software to be taken home...my district is little district that is extremely paranoid apparently...I will show them again and ask...thanks for everyones effort. In a message dated 1/19/06 9:17:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, shawn.adkins@showmesavants.com writes: > Actually, yes there is an easy way to do this. A site license does in fact > cover a =E2=9Csecond installation=E2=9D that can be used at home (WAH). Not to > mention the fact that if your employer has asked you to work from home, then it is > their responsibility to provide you with the tools to perform their request. > J > Here=E2=99s an excerpt from the MS Licensing website: > For Office Professional Enterprise Edition 2003: > Work at Home (WAH) License. For each license you acquire, the primary user > of a device on which you run a separately licensed copy of the software (work > device) may install and use one copy of the software on a home device (WAH > user). If you upgrade the software on the work device, the WAH user may > upgrade the copy on the home device. The WAH user=E2=99s right to use the > terminates when the WAH user leaves your organization. At that time, the WAH > must remove the software from the home device. > Hope this helps a little, > --Shawn ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:41:13 EST To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Top 5 sports moments Good topic from the new guy! I'd like to take this opportunity to pat myself on the back and the AC for helping vote him in That's not one of my top 5 moments however... these are: 5) Jun. 12, 1984: The Celtics beat their bitter rivals, the LA Lakers in a thrilling seven game series to bring the title back to Boston. Larry Bird was my favorite player in any sport and it was great to see him beat a Magic Johnson led team for once. 4) Sept. 28(?), 1986: Not sure of the exact date, but it was the day the Red Sox clinched the division this year. I believe Oil Can Boyd pitched and Wade Boggs was seen during the delirious celebration after the game riding on one of the state trooper's horses. They clinched the division on the EXACT day I have tickets to see them play, which are the only ones I bought back in April. It's the second best baseball game I've ever personally attended. The best one is below. 3) Oct. 20, 2004: Sox win the pennant, coming back from a 19-8 loss, which set them in a 3 games to 0 deficit (something which very few teams in sports have ever done) and beating the hated Yankees in the process. They go on to FINALLY win the World Series. Like it was mentioned before, however, the WS win was almost anticlimactic... in fact, that doesn't even make my list. 2) Feb. 3, 2002: Patriots win their first Superbowl. As heavy underdogs against the Rams, they battled to a tie with a couple minutes left. Madden is saying to take a knee and take your chances in OT? Why not march right down the field and win the game? 1) Oct. 2, 1983: While visiting a local card shop with a buddy of mine, a guy walks in with two tickets to the Red Sox game that day. He hands them to the shop owner and says he can do with them as he wishes. Since he got the tickets for nothing, the shop owner holds an impromptu contest between the only two pairs of kids in the shop to determine who goes to the game. He thinks of a number between one and ten. The other kids guess wrong and my friend guesses the number of the day: 8 - it's Yaz Day at Fenway and we're going! We jump on our bikes and beat some of the cars back to my house, so we can get a ride to the game on time. Seats are right by Pesky's Pole, about 5 rows deep and Yaz jogs by right in front of us as he rounds the field waving good-bye to the fans. ...and on the other side of the coin, the 5 lowest moments: 5) May 24, 1990: The Bruins are defeated by the Oilers in the Stanley Cup Finals. I had thought that this was going to be 'the year' they won it all, but sadly it wasn't to be... and they haven't been to the finals since. 4) Jan. 26, 1997: After waiting exactly 11 years for them to make it back to the big game, the Pats disappoint again, falling to Brett Favre, Desmond Howard and the Packers. 3) Oct. 2, 1978: Yaz pops out to third base with the tying run only 90 feet away and the Yanks finish their comeback to win the AL East in game #163 of the 2) Jan. 26, 1986: The Patriots get mauled by the Bears after winning an improbable three straight playoff games on the road - something that hasn't been achieved before or since (although Pittsburgh and Carolina both have a shot this 1) Oct. 25, 1986: "...and the ball goes through Buckner's legs and the Mets win!" This STILL hurts too much to type any more about. One strike away... Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:46:59 -0700 (MST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tknowles@sofast.net Subject: Top 5 sports moments #5 - 1990: Duke-Kentucky. Christian Laettner's shot at the buzzer. I remember watching the game near the end of regulation when my wife told me we had to leave to go to a party. Fortunately she allowed me to watch the end of the game, not realizing it was headed for overtime. I convinced her to stay a few more minutes. Even she agreed it was worth staying for. #4 - 1994: Rangers win the Stanley Cup. What??? A lifelong Red Sox fan rooting for a New York team? I didn't discover hockey until we left New England and moved to Omaha. The Omaha Knights were the farm team for the Rangers, hence the NY connection. Mark Messier is my favorite non-baseball athlete. #3 - 1984: The Montana State Bobcats (my alma mater) win the NCAA division 1-AA football championship after going 1-10 in 1983. #2 - October 20, 2004 #1 - October 27, 2004 ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:56:44 -0800 From: "KIT OKAMURO" Subject: bubble mailers buying these bubble mailers from staples is getting old and costly. but I found a guy who sells 100 of them delivered for under25.00. I you need his name lmk, kit ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:16:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Oddball Availables Happy Thursday to everyone. I have picked up some dupes for the following oddball sets. If you would like to claim any of them, please include your address. Thanks. 1970 Scratch-Offs (all with white interiors, some scratched, some Allen (2) Colbert (2) McCarver (3) 1968 Topps Player Game #10 Davis (2) #12 Osteen (2) #14 Lonborg #15 Hargan (2) #18 McCarver #21 Howard #24 Wynn (2) #25 Alley #28 Staub 1969 Deckle Edge #16 Howard (2) #22 Staub 1979 Kellog's (if you're looking for the variations, let me know what they are and I can check for you) #60 sundberg #59 jackson #56 rau #55 tanana #54 howell #53 almon #51 reynolds #43 guerrero #33 puhl #27 zahn #25 porter #12 burroughs #8 zachary #7 thompson #6 johnson 1980 Kellog's #59 bochte #55 andujar I also picked up a 1981 Topps National Issue Super Set (5x7 in size) It contains the following players: I know this is post 80, but it's a neat set with some big names. Feel free to take a few: Have at em! ================= To: , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:35:22 -0800 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] bubble mailers Cheaper yet on eBay. One dealer with 100% positive feedback sells good ones size #000 (4x8) 100 for 8.95 + 7.50 shipping ($16.45 total). -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: KIT OKAMURO To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] bubble mailers buying these bubble mailers from staples is getting old and costly. but Ifound a guy who sells 100 of them delivered for under25.00. I you need hisname lmk, kit YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:25:00 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Check your geneaology OBCers -- Does anybody have a relative in Boston?? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/01/19/cards.treasure.ap/index.html I bet he has that 1976 Dave Concepcion Venezuelan card in there somewhere... Take Care, Geno ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:43:00 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Michael Wierzbicki Subject: Red Man Cards on Ebay Hi, Guys! Anyone collect Red Man cards? The ebay seller bestinwest has a bunch on ebay, with current bids in the $1-$3 range, closing in the next hour (by about 7:15 pm Central Time). Good Luck! Mike W ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:58:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "T.J. Valacak" Subject: Football Availables Here are a few from the 68 set and a few of the mini-posters - not sure on the year 1968 - 187, 177 159 118 109 84 26 Mini-Posters. These look like 5x7 versions of the old sports illustrated posters. I bought a pack of 5 so I could give the Joe Theisman to my brother-in-law. here are the rest Ray Guy Cliff Harris Tony Galbreath Randy White Claim away - please include your address with your claim. Thanks ================= To: "'geno.wagner'" , Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:16:00 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Check your geneaology My brother in laws mother is from Roslindale. I can dream ... -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of geno.wagner Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:25 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Check your geneaology OBCers -- Does anybody have a relative in Boston?? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/01/19/cards.treasure. I bet he has that 1976 Dave Concepcion Venezuelan card in there Take Care, Geno Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:19:29 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Never mind Bin Laden, THIS is a news story.... "http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/01/19/cards.treasure http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/01/19/cards.treasure. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: ================= To: "obc" Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:25:59 -0600 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Ken Goetsch-----TOP 5 My top 5 sports moments are really a lot different......but that's why thistopic is so interesting. # 5- Super Bowl 1, Packers / Chiefs...I remember watching it with my dad asa 14 year old.......we were huge Packer fans and still are,not...knowing that I would only have 3 more years with my dad #4 As a Milwaukee Buck season ticket holder from 1974-2002.....sitting right behind the basket....being at the game on May 12, 1974...Game 7 NBA finals. Celtics vs. Bucks.....Celts broke my heart as they played great in a 102-87 win over the Bucks......Kareem, Oscar, Havlicek, Cowens, Jo Jo White, Chaney, Nelson.......a great group of talented players on the floor that day.......I still have the ticket stub..........row 2 behind the basket.....face value of those tix...........a whopping $6.00. #3 Game 5- NBA eastern Conference semi finals. Bucks vs. 76 ers........as it turned out Bucks won 102-89, and what made it memorable.....it was Julius Ervings' last game as a pro......The ovation he received when Billy Cunningham took him out of the game with under a minute to go......was "thunderous" and long......I still get chills just thinking about it......I saw theDr. play a lot of games in Milwaukee......he was the real deal. #2 Game 3 NBA Eastern conference semi-finals Sunday May 1, 1983.....After playing the first 2 games in Boston and beating the Celts 2 games......Buckscome home to a Sunday crowd..." Jacked up"....You could not hear yourself think, during the introductions.........Fast forward to end of first half, as Sid Moncrief puts in a 15' jumper as the buzzer sounds to put the Bucks up by1 point........I go down the corner of the floor as the players file out to the lockerooms........Larry Bird passes by me.....And I say to the reigning MVP."Hey Larry ....you starting to feel the PRESSURE"??????.........he walks away.....about 5 steps....turns around comes back in my face nose to nose.......with his index finger fimly planted in my sternum..........."I'll tell you when I feel the PRESSURE......then laughs at me....... I think I had a bruise there for a week or so.....It was great.....[Oh, by the way....Bucks swept the Celts 4-0.].......I was so hoarse after game 4......I could hardly talk for a couple of days after that.........IT WAS GREAT...... #1 January 9, 1972 . Milwaukee Bucks vs L.A. Lakers........Bucks snap theLalers33 game winning streak.....I was not sitting in row 2 that day....but I was there, in the upper parquet as they called it back then. Chamberlain, West, Goodrich, Hairston, McMillan, Lew Alcindor, Oscar, BobbyDandrige,WaliJones, John Block comes off the bench to score 17 big points in a 120-104 Bucks victory. Thanks for letting me carry on about these great games....... Ken Goetsch-------HUGE Basketball fan....If you could not guess that 1. ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 17:25:43 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Boston Find.... Geno, ya beat me to it! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:09:07 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Re: Bubble Mailers Cheaper still from ME! USED bubble mailers. All you want in a variety of sizes. Just pay postage and be patient for me to get them to you. Arrange for delivery (ask Tom Massimo) and they are free. Operators are standing by to take your order. >Cheaper yet on eBay. One dealer with 100% positive feedback sells good >ones size #000 (4x8) 100 for > 8.95 + 7.50 shipping ($16.45 total). > Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: KIT OKAMURO To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] bubble mailers buying these bubble mailers from staples is getting old and costly. but I found a guy who sells 100 of them delivered for under25.00. I you need his name lmk, kit ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 22:17:26 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Subject: Re: Odd Request Funnily enough I was looking at the openoffice website when I decided to check my e-mail and saw this thread. This can be done offlist, but are the programs really compatible with .DOC and .XLS files? If so, I will never pay for another crappy microsoft office product again! ================= To: Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:54:50 -0800 From: "Geordie Calvert" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? Here are mine: 5) 1977-78 Portland Trail Blazers (before they were called the Jail Blazers, or the Trailing Blazers) beat Dr. J's 76ers in the NBA finals. I watched the final game at the kitchen table on our black & white while reading Peter Benchley's "The Deep". The next year my beloved Trail Blazers start out 50-10 before our brittle hippie center went down with yet another foot injury. Too bad Walton couldn't have come down with a crippled mouth instead of gimpy feet. I don't know who is more excruciating to listen to: Walton, Joe Morgan, or McCarver. 4) Although mentioned by many, I have to have this on the list: 2004 Red Sox come back to beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. The World Series was almost anticlimactic in comparison. Yes, I very much wanted Boston to win, but having them come back against the E.E. was soooo sweet! 3) 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team. Nuff said, except the recurring theme in many of my top picks: the gold medal game against Finland wasn't nearly as cool and dramatic as beating the USSR in the semis. 2) This was hard to decide. This could easily have been #1. I'll go with the 1999 St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl. Years of futility of St. Louis Rams football is what got me into online fantasy football. At least I had other things football related to keep me interested while watching the Lambs stumble through season after season of wretched football. First Trent Green goes down in the preseason, and then some unknown grocery store stockboy comes along. Morganti? No, not THAT grocery store stockboy . What a magical season. From 3-13 to 13-3. Warner, Marshall Faulk, Torry Holt, Az-Hakim, Horne, Proehl. What an offense! Mike Jones stopping Kevin Dyson on the 1-yard line to preserve the victory. Jevon Kearse wreaking havoc on the Rams o-line. Steve McNair making superhuman plays to keep the Titans in it. What a game! Although I'm still bitter about the Rams losing to the Patriots in '01 (shoulda been our dynasty, darnit!), I still get a big grin when I think about that magical year. 1) In a squeaker, my #1 sports moment is Kirk Gibson going yard off the Ick (long-time OBCers will recognize Bill Ebbing's Eckersley nickname). I was watching the game with best friend and roommate Jason Rodriguez, who was even more fanatical about the Dodgers. We were kinda bummed knowing the Eck was coming in - after all, he was pretty much unhittable in '88. The A's were pretty much unstoppable; the Dodgers didn't even belong there - if it weren't for Orel Hershiser and Gibson down the stretch, they wouldn't have been. Anyway, Gibby hits the HR, and as we listen to Vin Scully tell the world "I can't believe what I just saw", Gibby limps around the bases, pumps his fist, and all while Jason & I are jumping, yelling, screaming - delirious. The neighbors below us probably weren't real happy with us. Too bad! Every time I watch that video, I relive that moment in our apartment and break out in a big grin. Again, like 2004, the rest of the series paled in comparison. After that game, Dodger fans had reason to hope. No Gibby the rest of the way, but Hershiser was everywhere - winning games, going 3-3 at the plate in Game 2 (with two doubles!). ================= Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:07:11 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Paul Biggs Subject: Heartbreak for me; perhaps an opportunity for you Hey guys, After several bad years on the personal side, I'm now looking at topping it all off by going bankrupt. Whooppeee. So now I find myself forced to do what I've always said I would never do - sell off some of my collection. I thought that I would offer them to you guys first before I go and put them on Evilbay. I hope nobody takes offense to an offer to sell being put up here, but if any of you want these sets, I'd rather them go to you than somebody I don't know. I really don't want to sell any of these, but I don't see any other choice at the moment. Of course, none of the cards received from the group are included here, and wouldn't be sold in any case. These are all sets I put together in my youth and all are hockey. 77/78 OPC Hockey 78/79 OPC hockey 79/80 OPC Hockey 80/81 OPC hockey 81/82 OPC Hockey 83/84 OPC Hockey 88/89 OPC Hockey They'll be going up on E-Bay in a couple of days if they aren't gone before then. Take care, Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:19:54 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "b_betza" Subject: "Action Shot" question revised Thanks to everyone for lots of feedback on my question but have to make it more difficult (of course with the knowledge in this group doubt it will be too tough!) Now for a more specific question: Were there any individual player cards (vs. World Series or greatest moment type cards) that featured pictures from actual games (vs. posed or set-up shots) .... would think that game shots would have been difficult to get/use for the pre-war stuff.... and other action shots seem to be drawings vs. actual photos (but I've been wrong before.. just ask my wife!) Thanks guys! Brian Betza ================= To: "b_betza" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 15:51:31 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] "Action Shot" question revised I forget if this has been mentioned before but the National Chicle "Fine Pens" have a number of nice action shots. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "b_betza" > Thanks to everyone for lots of feedback on my question but have to make > it more difficult (of course with the knowledge in this group doubt it > will be too tough!) > Now for a more specific question: Were there any individual player > cards (vs. World Series or greatest moment type cards) that featured > pictures from actual games (vs. posed or set-up shots) .... would think > that game shots would have been difficult to get/use for the pre-war > stuff.... and other action shots seem to be drawings vs. actual photos > (but I've been wrong before.. just ask my wife!) Thanks guys! > Brian Betza > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: "OCT" , Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 18:16:28 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: 2005 Wrap-up and 2006 goals Well, my year end wrap up is a little late...only by 20 days :) 2005 was a very eventful year to say the least. Lot's of great times and a few not-so-great ones as well. Health wise, I'm back on track now and am supposedly fully recovered from the pancreatitus I had from Mar - June. As always, the chances of getting sick again are a possibility but I have been told it is less than a 40% chance (great odds huh). Risks for certain types of cancer are now much higher and I have been specifically warned about pancreatic cancer of which there is no cure. A coworker was diagnosed with this same disease recently and from diagnosis to passing, he had about 3 weeks. He was only a few years older than I am and it really hit home. Things have changed quite dramatically in my life during the last 6 months and cards have become less and less of a priority. But, there are no more 120 hr work weeks, no more 60 hr marathon computer jobs without sleep to meet deadlines and no more nice checks coming in the mail for all that side consulting work. LOL ! Basically I'm looking to slow down, take care of myself and family while making preparations for the future in the unlikely event that another health issue or when another one of life's emergencies might crop up. Cards are still a great joy for me and collecting will always be part of my everyday life, just not to the extent that they were before. I have thinned out my collection quite a bit for 2006 and my current lists are pretty slim. Mainly the cards I enjoy the most are what I will continue to press forward with currently and yes, the lists are kind of tough I know. Unfortunately, since my diagnosis, I am unable to attain any life insurance policies (I think you can see where this is going) and the related hospital bills pretty much drained everything we had in reserves. Who really thinks about a nice life insurance policy at 31 years old or a major medical expense? Maybe I'm in the minority on that one, but I didn't ever think it was a priority until it was too late. Since I cannot secure any financial future for my family outside our current income nor can I get any supplemental policies, most everything that is not currently listed on my website has already been, currently is or will be put up for sale. Exceptions apply to special sentimental cards/items I have received that will reside in my personal collection. I've been putting this off for nearly two months, but it's inevitable that the cards will have to serve that purpose. Now I know that this might be an issue for some who have sent me cards over the last three years and I can fully understand that, please let me know your concerns and I will do my best to rectify them. If there was any other way to accomplish my goals without sacrificing my/our cards, I'd do it in a heartbeat. Currently, the cards will be headed to America's favorite online auction site, some of which is already on there. So, now that's out in the open, let me get on to my 2006 goals. #1 is to even up any current debt owed on trades. If I owe you at all, please let me know. I have a list of about 10-12 names that I'm sure I owe, but I want to be sure that I'm square with everyone for prior trades before I get too far ahead of myself. #2 would be to work towards finishing my T205 set which currently stands at 10 cards. #3 enjoy life, take on more responsibility within my church, spend time with my family daily, spend time with my hobby and friends, be content with less, quit smoking (had to throw that one in here) and be thankful everyday for the wonderful things I have in my life. Thanks for reading and please let me know if I am in your debt in any way. ================= Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:42:39 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: 5 greates sports memories Some of these are different :) 6) Jack at the '86 Masters... that was a wild Sunday afternoon! 5) Kerri Shrugg(sp) vaulting on an already hurt ankle. Toughest thing I ever saw 4) Bird and 'nique shooting it out in the 4th quarter of game 7. If you haven't seen it, you won't believe it when you do. I have watched it a couple times, and I still shake my head 3) UMass Lowell is defeated by defending NATIONAL CHAMPION (d2) Southern Conn. State. So why is a defeat such a big thing? Lowell had no right to be on the same field, talent wise, but the final score was 1-0, and the 1 goal came on a penalty. Southern was just plain out coached... :) 2) My Bedford High Freshman boys were down 3-1 at half time, when the team's leading scorer came over the the bench shooting off his mouth and trying to pick a fight with his own teammates. Before I even had a chance to diffuse the situation, he said to me "what are you going to do, throw me off the team?". So, I took his shirt right there and sent him away. Oh, the game? We scored 3 in the second half and won 4-3. 1) UMass Lowell is down 3-0 at the half. We score 3 in the second half including 1 with 2 min to go, to send the game to OT. In the OT, 30 seconds from getting the draw, they score. :( We lose 4-3. I was very dejected for about 2 minutes or so, until my then 3-yr-old daughter completed her regular 70 yard sprint across the field, gave me a big hug and asked if we won. I said "no", and she said "oh well", and gave me another hug. ================= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:37:13 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: OBCers selling collections OBCers -- I know this has come up in the past, but I just wanted to say something about selling cards that may have come from OBC. Lots of guys are dead set against it, I am not one of them. I sent you the cards to give them to you, not loan them. They are yours to enjoy and were extras for me most likely. If those cards help you to get out of a difficult financial situation in your life, I wouldn't care if you sold them for a few bucks. Even if you decide you don't want to collect cards anymore - what are you supposed to do, just keep them if you don't want them? I know some guys will disagree, but if you want to sell off any of my old beaters to pay some bills, you won't offend me! Take Care, Geno ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:37:39 EST To: geno.wagner@ntlworld.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCers selling collections I don't have much to write on this subject except that I totally agree with Geno's point of view and appreciate that he put his point of view on the ================= To: "obc" Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 06:23:44 -0600 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports moments?? > Geordie; > You have got to be kidding meeeee..........I love Walton........ > "CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE........GET A REBOUND......." > or > "WILL WE EVER SEE ANOTHER MAGIC....OR LARRY...."....I love it when he goes > "off" > Maybe if the Blazers had a medical staff to properly diagnose a foot > back in the day.....Walton's career could have been different. > Just my take...... > Ken Goetsch > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geordie Calvert" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:54 PM > Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone here want to play favorite sports > moments?? > > Here are mine: > > > > 5) 1977-78 Portland Trail Blazers (before they were called the Jail > > Blazers, or the Trailing Blazers) beat Dr. J's 76ers in the NBA finals. > > watched the final game at the kitchen table on our black & white while > > reading Peter Benchley's "The Deep". The next year my beloved Trail > Blazers > > start out 50-10 before our brittle hippie center went down with yet > another > > foot injury. Too bad Walton couldn't have come down with a crippled > > instead of gimpy feet. I don't know who is more excruciating to listen > to: > > Walton, Joe Morgan, or McCarver. > > > > 4) Although mentioned by many, I have to have this on the list: 2004 > > Sox come back to beat the Yanks after being down 3-0. The World Series > was > > almost anticlimactic in comparison. Yes, I very much wanted Boston to > win, > > but having them come back against the E.E. was soooo sweet! > > > > 3) 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team. Nuff said, except the recurring > in > > many of my top picks: the gold medal game against Finland wasn't nearly > as > > cool and dramatic as beating the USSR in the semis. > > > > 2) This was hard to decide. This could easily have been #1. I'll go > with > > the 1999 St. Louis Rams winning the Super Bowl. Years of futility of > > Louis Rams football is what got me into online fantasy football. At > I > > had other things football related to keep me interested while watching > > Lambs stumble through season after season of wretched football. First > Trent > > Green goes down in the preseason, and then some unknown grocery store > > stockboy comes along. Morganti? No, not THAT grocery store stockboy > > What a magical season. From 3-13 to 13-3. Warner, Marshall Faulk, > > Holt, Az-Hakim, Horne, Proehl. What an offense! Mike Jones stopping > Kevin > > Dyson on the 1-yard line to preserve the victory. Jevon Kearse wreaking > > havoc on the Rams o-line. Steve McNair making superhuman plays to keep > the > > Titans in it. What a game! Although I'm still bitter about the Rams > losing > > to the Patriots in '01 (shoulda been our dynasty, darnit!), I still get > > big grin when I think about that magical year. > > > > 1) In a squeaker, my #1 sports moment is Kirk Gibson going yard off the > Ick > > (long-time OBCers will recognize Bill Ebbing's Eckersley nickname). I > > watching the game with best friend and roommate Jason Rodriguez, who was > > even more fanatical about the Dodgers. We were kinda bummed knowing the > Eck > > was coming in - after all, he was pretty much unhittable in '88. The > > were pretty much unstoppable; the Dodgers didn't even belong there - if > > weren't for Orel Hershiser and Gibson down the stretch, they wouldn't > > been. Anyway, Gibby hits the HR, and as we listen to Vin Scully tell > > world "I can't believe what I just saw", Gibby limps around the bases, > pumps > > his fist, and all while Jason & I are jumping, yelling, screaming - > > delirious. The neighbors below us probably weren't real happy with us. > Too > > bad! Every time I watch that video, I relive that moment in our > > and break out in a big grin. Again, like 2004, the rest of the series > paled > > in comparison. After that game, Dodger fans had reason to hope. No > > the rest of the way, but Hershiser was everywhere - winning games, going > 3-3 > > at the plate in Game 2 (with two doubles!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 07:41:21 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCers selling collections Make it three. Although most of the card received have been put into binders, I couldn't tell you if i bought them or received them from someone once they went into those binders or my dup box. That would be after giving proper thanks, I just didn't write it down ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:37:01 EST To: geno.wagner@ntlworld.com From: HMorgan707@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCers selling collections Hey Geno! Wanna buy my whole collection for $500,000? Wait a minute...........Lemme go through my 1972 set, I think there is a card there you sent me ten years ago. You can have that one back, free! ================= To: "'geno.wagner'" , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:21:47 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCers selling collections Well said Geno! -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of geno.wagner Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:37 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBCers selling collections OBCers -- I know this has come up in the past, but I just wanted to say something about selling cards that may have come from OBC. Lots of guys are dead against it, I am not one of them. I sent you the cards to give them to not loan them. They are yours to enjoy and were extras for me most If those cards help you to get out of a difficult financial situation in your life, I wouldn't care if you sold them for a few bucks. Even if decide you don't want to collect cards anymore - what are you supposed do, just keep them if you don't want them? I know some guys will disagree, but if you want to sell off any of my beaters to pay some bills, you won't offend me! Take Care, Geno Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:26:26 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Here's a laugh Where would we be without ebay! This is hilarious http://tinafolsomphotography.com/ebay_song.html ================= To: "'Bob Donaldson'" , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:54:12 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Here's a laugh I knew Weird Al would make a comeback! Makes me think about dusting off my old cassette tapes and giving 'em a listen again....okay, maybe not. |-----Original Message----- |From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com |[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson |Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:26 AM |To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com |Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Here's a laugh |Where would we be without ebay! |This is hilarious |http://tinafolsomphotography.com/ebay_song.html |Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 17:07:43 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Massimo" Subject: Question about Vintage LPs I apologize that this is off the subject of Baseball Cards, but my wife's grandparents just gave us a huge stack of Vinyl LPs from the 50's and 60's. Does anyone know where I could find out if they are actually worth anything? I would rather not type each individual album name on an Ebay search. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom Massimo ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:02:38 EST To: shawn.adkins@showmesavants.com, obcbobd@comcast.net, From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Here's a laugh That was absolutely Hysterical ================= To: "obc" Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:42:29 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: For the 40 something crowd Hello All, There is a Mother from my school that sends me things from time to time, I got a chuckle from the following passage and thought other 40 somethinger's would enjoy it as well. It's non-baseball so if your not interested then just hit delete!! Marlene writes: My Mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread mayo on the same cutting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn't seem to get food poisoning. My Mom used to defrost hamburger on the counter AND I used to eat it raw sometimes, too. Our school sandwiches were wrapped in wax paper in a brown paper bag, not in ice pack coolers, but I can't remember getting ecoli. Almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the lake instead of a pristine pool (talk about boring), no beach closures then. The term cell phone would have conjured up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager was the school PA system. We all took gym, not PE... and risked permanent injury with a pair of high top Ked's (only worn in gym) instead of having cross-training athletic shoes with air cushion soles and built in light reflectors. I can't recall any injuries but they must have happened because they tell us how much safer we are now.. Flunking gym was not an option...even for stupid kids! I guess PE must be much harder than gym. Speaking of school, we all said prayers and sang the national anthem, and staying in detention after school caught all sorts of negative attention. We must have had horribly damaged psyches. What an archaic health system we had then. Remember school nurses? Ours wore a hat and everything. I thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself. I just can't recall how bored we were without computers, Play Station, Nintendo, X-box or 270 digital TV cable stations. Oh yeah... and where was the Benadryl and sterilization kit when I got that bee sting? I could have been killed! We played 'king of the hill' on piles of gravel left on vacant construction sites, and when we got hurt, Mom pulled out the 48-cent bottle of Mercurochrome (kids liked it better because it didn't sting like iodine did) and then we got our butt spanked. Now it's a trip to the emergency room, followed by a 10-day dose of a $49 bottle of antibiotics, and then Mom calls the attorney to sue the contractor for leaving a horribly vicious pile of gravel where it was such a threat. We didn't act up at the neighbor's house either because if we did, we got our butt spanked there and then we got butt spanked again when we got home. I recall a kid from up the street coming over and doing his tricks on the stone front stoop, just before he fell off. Little did his Mom know that she could have owned our house. Instead, she picked him up and swatted him for being such a goof. It was a neighborhood run amuck. To top it off, not a single person I knew had ever been told that they were from a dysfunctional family. How could we possibly have known that? We needed to get into group therapy and anger management classes? We were obviously so duped by so many societal ills, that we didn't even notice that the entire country wasn't taking Prozac! How did we ever survive? LOVE TO ALL OF US WHO SHARED THIS ERA, AND TO ALL WHO DIDN'T- SORRY FOR WHAT YOU MISSED. I WOULDN'T TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING !!! I lived through such a time and to those of you who did as well I hope you enjoyed this mild bit of sarcasm - BE WELL!!! REGARDS -------------------- MARK ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:36:09 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Questions on a new ODD set Hello Today at the white plains Show I picked up a few Oddballs, I picked up a couple 74 Kellogg, 3 79 Kellogg and 7 1976 Kellogg, My question is should I start them and are they relatively easy set? or So Odd that its not worth Thanx for the Advise Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:08:49 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: 1962 Topps Stamps Question I recently won an eBay auction for a 1962 Topps stamp album with most of the stamps pasted into it. The Album and stamps are in great condition. If you were collecting these stamps, would you be happy with the stamps that are pasted in, or would you want to collect the stamps loose? Would you paste your loose stamps into the album's empty spots? ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:16:09 EST To: Brockhattox@cs.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question I would paste the stamps into the empty spots. ================= To: , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:25:57 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question I'm collecting the 69 stamps and I put those in the albums -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brockhattox@cs.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:09 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question I recently won an eBay auction for a 1962 Topps stamp album with most of the stamps pasted into it. The Album and stamps are in great condition. If you were collecting these stamps, would you be happy with the stamps that are pasted in, or would you want to collect the stamps loose? Would you paste your loose stamps into the album's empty YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:10:01 EST To: Brockhattox@cs.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question In a message dated 1/21/2006 5:13:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, brockhattox@cs.com writes: I recently won an eBay auction for a 1962 Topps stamp album with most of the stamps pasted into it. The Album and stamps are in great condition. If you were collecting these stamps, would you be happy with the stamps that are pasted in, or would you want to collect the stamps loose? Would you paste your loose stamps into the album's empty spots? ================= To: , Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:17:05 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question I'm also pasting my stamps in the album. -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of brockhattox@cs.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:09 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question I recently won an eBay auction for a 1962 Topps stamp album with most of the stamps pasted into it. The Album and stamps are in great condition. If you were collecting these stamps, would you be happy with the stamps that are pasted in, or would you want to collect the stamps loose? Would you paste your loose stamps into the album's empty spots? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service . ================= To: brockhattox@cs.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:08:37 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question Hello All, I have been reading with great interest the comments about pasting the `62 Topps stamps into the stamp album. We obviously do not have too many philatelist (stamp collectors) in the group and having collected stamps for many years I must disagree with my collecting friends. I would at the very least affix the stamps with a stamp hinge into the stamp album. This will only slightly disturb the stamp gum and still affix the stamp to the album. Most stamp collectors would prefer a stamp with undisturbed gum (the paste on the back of the stamp), as well as decent centering and unfreyed perforations. Mounting a "pristine" stamp is usually done with a "hinge-less" mount known as a Showguard which covers the stamp in a protective film, mounting the stamp in the album w/o disturbing the gum. These mount are more costly than hinges but are far better for your stamps preserving their original characteristics and their value. Just my two cents and obviously quite different from my collecting colleagues. Hope you find a different point of view helpful. BE WELL!!! REGARDS --------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: brockhattox@cs.com I recently won an eBay auction for a 1962 Topps stamp album with most of the stamps pasted into it. The Album and stamps are in great condition. If you were collecting these stamps, would you be happy with the stamps that are pasted in, or would you want to collect the stamps loose? Would you paste your loose stamps into the album's empty spots? YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:37:35 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: ANother ODD question and Quest Hello, I know this is twice in 1 night, But i need your advise. I am thinking of Starting a real odd ball thing. I am a huge Fan of Johnny Antonelli ( My grandfather Served in the war with him and were in the same company) and I am a huge fan of Tug McGraw. I am thinking of getting as many cards of each. Today i picked up 6 1973 Mcgraws for $1 and i said I should but as many of these guys as i can and buy multiple of the same years., Just a thought a Tug McGraw and Johnny Antonelli COllection. What do you guys think? Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:45:20 -0500 From: "Joe Isaac" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] For the 40 something crowd Hey Mark, Hmmm, All I have to do is add my baseball card habit to Marlene's writing and use it for my OBC bio. In fact, we ate raw meat growing up - a specialty Arabic meal. Without looking at a directory, you know how old I am (plus or minus a couple years). ================= To: "Ramblings" Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:54:57 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Ebay 1952 Mantle? I'll be interested to say what this goes for. What ebay rule says ungraded cards must be advertised as reprints? It sure smells like a tortured reprint. What do you think? George Vrechek http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item8753552941&rd1&sspagenameSTRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd1 ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:04:04 -0500 From: "Bob Reed" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay 1952 Mantle? I saw this earlier and definitely agree that it's a tortured reprint. Here are four points I came up with: 1) The borders look too nice compared to the rest of the card. 2) The magic marker looks too thin. I don't believe markers back in the 50's were able to write that thin. 3) The tape definitely looks too new (like within the last year). Why tape up a $20,000 card when it doesn't even need it? 4) The TOPPS BASEBALL on the back does not match the font of normal 52's. Not to mention the "red flag" phrases...... a) I am selling this card as a reprint to meet ebays guidelines b) The card is being sold as is with no returns Definitely STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!! >From: "George Vrechek" >To: "Ramblings" >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay 1952 Mantle? >Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:54:57 -0600 >I'll be interested to say what this goes for. What ebay rule says ungraded >cards must be advertised as reprints? It sure smells like a tortured >reprint. What do you think? >George Vrechek >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8753552941&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:29:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Geno" Subject: Re: ANother ODD question and Quest Rob -- I say you might as well! If you get bored with it later, you can always get rid of them. As for the Kelloggs you mentioned, those are fun sets to try to complete, along with Hostess and other food issues. If you think you might want to start a set, by all means, do it! Take Care, Geno --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Celenox@a... wrote: > Hello, I know this is twice in 1 night, But i need your advise. I > thinking of Starting a real odd ball thing. I am a huge Fan of Johnny Antonelli ( > My grandfather Served in the war with him and were in the same company) and I > am a huge fan of Tug McGraw. I am thinking of getting as many cards of each. > Today i picked up 6 1973 Mcgraws for $1 and i said I should but as many of > these guys as i can and buy multiple of the same years., Just a thought a Tug > McGraw and Johnny Antonelli COllection. What do you guys think? > Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= To: Celenox@aol.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:47:27 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ANother ODD question and Quest Hey Rob. Many of us collect favorite players. For example, I collect everything I can get my hands on and keep a scrapbook for my HOM'er Stormin' Norman Cash. I also collect items from Fred Talbot, Bob Talbot and Jean Guy Talbot. I have also been known to stash away item of Yaz. Keith Summers collects all that is Ollie Brown and Jim Nash. Rick Svetecz has a shrine devoted to his hero Johnny Callison. EEK will never turn down any memorabilia from Charlie "PawPaw" Maxwell - I think you get the idea. If you wish to devote some of your hobby time to collecting McGraw and Antonelli then you would be in good company as many of us have favorites we collect. Whatever you do just enjoy it - the one thing that can be said about the appeal of our hobby is that there is no right way or wrong way to collect. GOOD LUCK - and BE WELL!!! REGARDS ----------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: Celenox@aol.com Hello, I know this is twice in 1 night, But i need your advise. I am thinking of Starting a real odd ball thing. I am a huge Fan of Johnny Antonelli ( My grandfather Served in the war with him and were in the same company) and I am a huge fan of Tug McGraw. I am thinking of getting as many cards of each. Today i picked up 6 1973 Mcgraws for $1 and i said I should but as many of these guys as i can and buy multiple of the same years., Just a thought a Tug McGraw and Johnny Antonelli COllection. What do you guys think? Rob "The Fireman" Gioia SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "Joe Isaac" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:57:59 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] For the 40 something crowd Well let's see Joe, we met last year at the Cleveland "swap meet" and if my memory serves me correct I will guess 40 - 45 years old (crafty how I give myself some wiggle room there eh). Am I close? REGARDS --------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Joe Isaac" Hey Mark, Hmmm, All I have to do is add my baseball card habit to Marlene's writing and use it for my OBC bio. In fact, we ate raw meat growing up - a specialty Arabic meal. Without looking at a directory, you know how old I am (plus or minus a couple years). YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 05:43:17 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question Likewise, pasting my 1969 stamps into albums. Technically, I have a couple of sheets I've left unmolested, but individual stamps are fair game. And only one stamp to go, unless I want to "ban" Pete Rose from my collection... --- Bob Donaldson wrote: > I'm collecting the 69 stamps and I put those in the albums Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:21:00 -0500 From: "Mac Wubben" Subject: message to Geno I've tried emailing you several times...and had my messages bounce. Is there an alternative email address? ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:57:56 -0500 To: "Bob Reed" ,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Joel Freedman Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay 1952 Mantle? Here is a helpful link. http://www.msu.edu/~alpertjo/1952toppsmantleguide.htm At 11:04 PM 1/21/2006, Bob Reed wrote: >I saw this earlier and definitely agree that it's a tortured reprint. Here >are four points I came up with: >1) The borders look too nice compared to the rest of the card. >2) The magic marker looks too thin. I don't believe markers back in the >50's were able to write that thin. >3) The tape definitely looks too new (like within the last year). Why tape >up a $20,000 card when it doesn't even need it? >4) The TOPPS BASEBALL on the back does not match the font of normal 52's. >Not to mention the "red flag" phrases...... >a) I am selling this card as a reprint to meet ebays guidelines >b) The card is being sold as is with no returns >Definitely STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!! > >From: "George Vrechek" > >To: "Ramblings" > >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay 1952 Mantle? > >Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:54:57 -0600 > > > >I'll be interested to say what this goes for. What ebay rule says ungraded > >cards must be advertised as reprints? It sure smells like a tortured > >reprint. What do you think? > >George Vrechek > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8753552941&rd=1& > sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 >Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:04:43 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: My email woes Fellas -- I'm not sure why or how it happened, but at some point my firewall just decided to stop letting me accept emails from certain addresses. It seems like Hotmail and Yahoo type emails are just not getting through, hence guys like Mac can't get to me via email. Does anybody have any idea how to get around this? I use Norton Personal Firewall if that helps. I have found problems sending emails out as well and have had to disable the firewall to send things on many occasions. It's set to Medium security. In the mean time, my work email is list in the CC line if you need to get hold of me. If nobody has any ideas on how to fix my problem, I can just list this as my secondary address. If anybody has emailed me in the past and not gotten a response, please don't be offended - I probably didn't get it. Try again with the email address above... Take Care, Geno ================= To: Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:50:12 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: try again Fellas -- I can't remember if the CC emails show up since it doesn't on the Yahoo site, which is where I have to read all my servers now. Anyway, here's my alternate address if it didn't show up before: Take Care, Geno ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:43:56 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Answer to 1962 Topps Stamp Question and Offer Thanks to everyone who responded to my Topps Stamps question. I have decided to treat the stamps stuck in the album as my individual 1962 stamp collection, and try to collect the two-stamp panels as the quality version of the set. As a result, these are the remaining stamps I need: 1962 Stamps: 10 Archer 11 Aspromonte 13 Baldschun 31 Cardwell 66 Hansen 75 E. Howard 77 Howser 81 Jay 82 Johnson 85 Kasko 105 Maz 125 Perry 126 Phillips 129 Pizarro 135 Richardson 148 Shantz 157 Spencer 172 Walls 174 Wilhelm 175 Williams 178 Wynn 183 Cubs Logo I have a number of dupes to trade for these as well as a 1962 Album that is missing the cover. Any help will be appreciated. Take care, ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:03:56 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Tom Massimo" Subject: Thanks to all who responded about Vintage LPs What a great group this is! I have a question about Vintage records and I get six responses within a couple of hours. Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the information. I decided to put a few up on Ebay, even though they won't net that much. As for the bulk, my wife is giving them to a collector that she works in her industry. It is good business for her. Thanks again guys. ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:22:36 -0700 (MST) To: "OBC Ramblings" From: tknowles@sofast.net Subject: I need to proofread my own ramblings.. I just read my own 'top 5' online and realized I had the wrong date on my #5--the Duke/Kentucky game I referred to was in 1992, not 1990. ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:13:06 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: AIM anyone? has anyone Downloaded and installed aols AIM? since the last email? if so email me with your aim screen name if you need the link here it is _AIM.com_ (http://www.aim.com/) Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= To: talbot1@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:51:36 -0500 From: "Joe Isaac" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] For the 40 something crowd Close enough. >From: talbot1@comcast.net >To: "Joe Isaac" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] For the 40 something crowd >Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:57:59 +0000 >Well let's see Joe, we met last year at the Cleveland "swap meet" and if my >memory serves me correct I will guess 40 - 45 years old (crafty how I give >myself some wiggle room there eh). Am I close? >REGARDS --------------- MARK >-------------- Original message -------------- >From: "Joe Isaac" >Hey Mark, >Hmmm, All I have to do is add my baseball card habit to Marlene's writing >and use it for my OBC bio. In fact, we ate raw meat growing up - a >specialty Arabic meal. Without looking at a directory, you know how old I >am (plus or minus a couple years). >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:12:34 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet Subject: RAOK outside of OBC Back in November, while on a service call I noticed that a boy was flipping through a bunch of baseball cards in 9-pocket sheets. The boy seemed to be around 8 or 9 and the cards were mostly from the past couple of years. One card stood out from the rest in his open binder: a 1982 Topps Reds Rookie Stars. I mentioned to his mother that I had pulled that same card from the pack when I was about his age. Frome there, we began discussing the hobby. I mentioned that I still collect cards and soon the boy was asking about my collection. No sooner did I mention that I collected stuff from before he was born, he was asking about whether I owned cards of Mickey Mantle, Hank Aaron or Willie Mays. When I told him I did...he became very excited. His mother explained that he loved reading about baseball...he'd sit at a table for an hour reading the stats on the backs of his cards, borrowed every book on baseball in his school library (even the ones on the mechanics of the sport) and loved to play the game as well. Something seemed very familiar to me. It didn't take long to understand why...this boy (his name is Cameron) reminded me of myself at his age. Like the 9-year old version of myself, he knew how many cards he owned. He knew which players he had in his collection and constantly rearranged them...by number, by player, by team or position. I did that too. I also enjoyed reading about baseball and still avidly do. I also played as a kid but never would have been confused for a professional: I fielded fly balls as if they were live grenades, I had two pitches -- a lazy fastball and a breaker that was probably the result of me screwing up the delivery of my 35 MPH "fastball." Meeting Cameron made me realize that despite my sometimes pessimistic attitude about the current state of the hobby, there are still some kids out there who love baseball and can't get enough of it. As I described some of the things I do in the hobby (especially the fact I've written for a few hobby publications), he seemed impressed. I decided that if I ever got the chance to get back that way, I'd drop off a few cards from my dupes box to give him the chance to own some cards older than he is. A couple weeks later, I went up to spend Thanksgiving with my wife's family in New Jersey. On the way up, I spent the night at Steve Rittenberg's place. While there, Steve decided -- without asking -- that it was time for me to start the 1982 Fleer and 1982/'83 Donruss sets. Along with all his cards from those sets in his dupes box, he emptied the 1981 Donruss section. He also made me take a stack of 1964 Topps Giants including about 15 of Tony Gonzalez. The cards filled up a decent-sized box and went home with me. Thanks to Steve, it took me about 5 hours to update my wantlist, put away all that I needed and the rest filled an 800-count box. The box went on the bookshelf, where I occasionally had to tell my wife that I'd "find someplace" for them eventually. On Friday, I was in Cameron's neighborhood and saw his mother out side. I stopped and asked if it was okay to bring over "some cards" the next time I was around. She said it was OK, and Cameron came out to ask me how I stored my collection. Turns out his little C-ring binder was insufficient. He also asked where he could find a magazine I'd written for. His mother asked if she could pay me for the cards and I told her that wasn't necessary because I wanted to give my extra cards a good home. Before leaving, she also told me that their pediatrician was a good friend of former player Al Oliver and that he had signed a ball for Cameron. When I got home that evening, I went and pulled out that 800-count box that was left over from Steve's assault on my UV wantlist. I started going through them and pulled aside all the star cards. Pete Rose, George Brett, Rickey Henderson, Wille Stargell, Mike Schmidt, newest HOFer Bruce Sutter and others were placed into a 35-card plastic holder. Near the bottom of the stack I found a 1981 Donruss card of Al Oliver and placed it on the top of the stack. I also added a newer card of Johnny Damon to the stack because I knew he is Cameron's favorite player. While looking through the rest of the cards, I found out that there would be a bunch of dupes to sort through...and then it hit me. After realizing that Cameron has traded with some of the neighborhood kids, I figured he could find other owners for the cards in front of me. I'd just give him the entire box. I placed the cards back into the 800-count box and filled the empty space with some newer cards and a few extra '65 Embossed, placed 17 '64 Giants on the top and closed it up. I also pulled a couple of D-ring binders, the lastest Tuff Stuff (still in its plastic because I never opened it) and an extra copy I had of the Fall '05 edition of "SGC Collector" magazine with my article on 1973 Topps cards and placed them in my On Saturday I swung back into the neighborhood. I pulled up to the house and rang the bell. His mother answered but told me Cameron was out with his father. I said it was OK, I'd just leave what I had but needed to get them out of my truck. You should have seen the look on her face when I came back carrying an 800-ct. box, two 3" binders, a coupe of magazines. When I said I was going to give him "some cards" she was expecting something like a stack of 25 or so. She began insisting that she should pay me something for such a large box, but I assured her I didn't want anything in return...the cards were given to me and all I wanted to do was share some of my positive hobby experience with her son. When she opened the box and saw the '64 Giants she was impressed. "1964? Goodness, that's the year I was born!" As I showed her my article a car pulled into the driveway...so I was going to see Cameron's As he came up and saw what I left him, his eyes opened wide and he seemed to stutter as he thanked me. His father started insisting that they pay me for the stuff, and I began to explain that I belong to a trading group called OBC that was built upon random acts of kindness, and that its members frequently send out cards without expecting to get cards or money back...knowing that the member will send stuff to another member (and a thank you to the OBC server) is reward enough. I pulled out the 35-count plastic box from my shirt pocket and handed it to Cameron. He saw Al Oliver on the top and said it was going next to the signed ball in his display case (got that for Christmas). I turned over the box to show him Johnny Damon and told him he'd probably recognize the players in between. As he looked through them it was funnier to note that his father was more animated about the players inside. "Pete Rose...Wow! Mike Schmidt was a great third baseman...George Brett was probably the best hitter I've ever seen in person...WILLIE STARGELL! Oh my God! Look how young Rickey Henderson is...Hey, didn't Bruce Sutter just get elected to the Hall of Fame? Wow, I forgot Danny Ainge played baseball." I told Cameron that he was going to have several duplicates in the box and that he could feel free to trade them By the time I left, Cameron had thanked me no fewer than six times. He was visbly in awe. The fact that a stranger would come over and give him cards was probably incredible, but his parents were even more impressed. He was also happy to see that the magazine I gave him had information about older cards (for instance, the 1928 Ice Cream cards article) and he's probably read that thing cover-to-cover already. So, that's the story about how I did my good deed for the day (like the good former Boy Scout I am). After leaving, I wondered if perhaps my reasons for giving so much stuff to a younger collector were self-serving. After all, I ended up with automatic hits to my website and likely added a name to the list of people who'd buy stuff I write in the future. I hope that I've set an impressionable younger collector down the right road and will see him in OBC 10-15 years from now. In any case, I made a kid's day by simply doing something nice. And it made me feel good. Take care, I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 20:22:16 EST To: talbot1@comcast.net, Brockhattox@cs.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1962 Topps Stamps Question Great idea that I had not really thought about, and I used to be a Philatelist, before the laws changed. I am trying to collect a set of the 1961s individually and in pair form, as Brock suggested. In 1969, I am collecting a set in the booklets, individually that I put in 20 count pages like the 1961s and 1962s and in sheet form. For teh 1974 stamps, since I do not have the booklets, those are only in the 20 count pages, at this time, although Shawn Adkins indicated I have a few complete sheets headed my way. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 23:19:33 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Superbowl XL - Seattle Seahawks From: "Michael Kohn" To: "Michael Kohn" Subject: Superbowl XL - Seattle Seahawks Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:56:41 -0800 Hello Friends and Family. As most of you know who have known me for years, today was a dream come true. I am somewhat convinced that I have not yet woken up from sleep last night and did not actually witness my Seattle Seahawks advance to the Superbowl. Living in Raiderland my whole life and rooting for a team that most people outside of Seattle are barely aware of, I have taken an unbelievable beating over the years. However, assuming that I'm not still asleep, my team has finally advanced to the "Big Dance". That being said, if any of you know anyone who knows anyone who is interested in getting rid of a Superbowl ticket with obstructed views in the last row of Ford Field (Non-obstructed views will be accepted), I would love to be on your short list of phone calls. If somehow I can not make it to Detroit to see if my hallucination can come to fruition, you are all invited to come to my place for an HD SEAHAWK ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:02:44 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: graded card lunacy I admit to having some graded cards in my collection, but check out this auction for someone who's taken grading one step beyond _eBay: 1981 Fleer #552 Jerry Koosman PSA 9 Minnesota Twins (item 8755638842 end time Feb-21-06 19:59:44 PST)_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8755638842&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT) The minimum bid is only $12! ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 05:53:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Geno" Subject: Re: graded card lunacy Not only is it not worth the money to grade it, it isn't worth the stamp that sent it in! --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, typecard@a... wrote: > I admit to having some graded cards in my collection, but check out this > auction for someone who's taken grading one step beyond _eBay: 1981 Fleer #552 > Jerry Koosman PSA 9 Minnesota Twins (item 8755638842 end time Feb- > 19:59:44 PST)_ > (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? IT) The minimum bid is only $12! > Andy ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:19:10 EST To: biglittledogs@msn.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Re: [VCT] an apology......and a poll On behalf of everyone with wives, kids, in laws, pets and everyone else who doesn't understand Cardboardopia............. please don't apologize. In fact, I think that should invite a new poll: What has been the most interesting intolerance shown you regarding your Mine was actually our then 6 month old Springer Spaniel who somehow got hold of a small stack of 66 hi #'s. About 20 in all. Chewed beyond tiptondom. 9 years later she still slinks away from me when I sit down to sort cards. Bob Bannon ================= Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:57:09 -0800 To: biggies@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: digdugdig@webtv.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [VCT] an apology......and a poll To: biglittledogs@msn.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, From: biggies@aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:19:10 EST Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: [VCT] an apology......and a poll On behalf of everyone with wives, kids, in laws, pets and everyone else who doesn't understand Cardboardopia............. please don't apologize. In fact, I think that should invite a new poll: What has been the most interesting intolerance shown you regarding your Mine was actually our then 6 month old Springer Spaniel who somehow got hold of a small stack of 66 hi #'s. About 20 in all. Chewed beyond tiptondom. 9 years later she still slinks away from me when I sit down to sort cards. Bob Bannon ================= To: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:33:02 -0500 From: "Mark Holland" Subject: 79T wantlist I am getting close to completing the 79T set as I am down to the final 11. Any help is appreciated. OBC condition is preferred. Mark Holland 1979 Topps Wantlist 1 Carew/Parker 39 Dale Murphy Atlanta Braves 69 Elliott Maddox New York Mets 114 Cliff Johnson New York Yankees 115 Nolan Ryan California Angels 116 Ozzie Smith San Diego Padres 159 Roy White New York Yankees 255 Tommy John Los Angeles Dodgers 264 Don Robinson Pittsburgh Pirates 450 Dave Concepcion Cincinnati Reds 650 Pete Rose Cincinnati Reds Mark Holland Wantlist @ http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep16&ext1&groupid106917&ck ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:38:37 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "b_betza" Subject: Re: RAOK outside of OBC Great story.... I think back to the constant sorting of my cards... setting up a baseball diamond with the players all in their respective positions... and loving the cards for what they were--- a representation of the game I loved. Didn't much matter that my Willie Stargell card hardly had corners!! One of the joys I've had as a parent is seeing my son grow up to love baseball. Having him grasping his Orioles roster when we hit the local card store is awesome. I also love seeing his face when I find some cards he's been searching for. Brings back a fond memory of my Dad surprising us after school... he told my brother and I to go look on our beds... there were 10-15 packs on each of our pillows of what probably was the 76 or 77 Topps set.... just a moment of pure joy that I can clearly remember to this I'm sure Cameron felt the same way when you brought the cards to him... and yes you probably did take something away from your trip to drop off the cards to him...and I'm not talking about website hits or future readers of your articles.... it's the joy that comes with Brian Betza --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Chris Stufflestreet wrote: > Back in November, while on a service call I noticed > that a boy was flipping through a bunch of baseball > cards in 9-pocket sheets. The boy seemed to be around > 8 or 9 and the cards were mostly from the past couple > of years. One card stood out from the rest in his > open binder: a 1982 Topps Reds Rookie Stars. > I mentioned to his mother that I had pulled that same > card from the pack when I was about his age. Frome > there, we began discussing the hobby. I mentioned > that I still collect cards and soon the boy was asking > about my collection. No sooner did I mention that I > collected stuff from before he was born, he was asking > about whether I owned cards of Mickey Mantle, Hank > Aaron or Willie Mays. When I told him I did...he > became very excited. His mother explained that he > loved reading about baseball...he'd sit at a table for > an hour reading the stats on the backs of his cards, > borrowed every book on baseball in his school library > (even the ones on the mechanics of the sport) and > loved to play the game as well. > Something seemed very familiar to me. It didn't take > long to understand why...this boy (his name is > Cameron) reminded me of myself at his age. Like the > 9-year old version of myself, he knew how many cards > he owned. He knew which players he had in his > collection and constantly rearranged them...by number, > by player, by team or position. I did that too. I > also enjoyed reading about baseball and still avidly > do. I also played as a kid but never would have been > confused for a professional: I fielded fly balls as if > they were live grenades, I had two pitches -- a lazy > fastball and a breaker that was probably the result of > me screwing up the delivery of my 35 MPH "fastball." > Meeting Cameron made me realize that despite my > sometimes pessimistic attitude about the current state > of the hobby, there are still some kids out there who > love baseball and can't get enough of it. As I > described some of the things I do in the hobby > (especially the fact I've written for a few hobby > publications), he seemed impressed. I decided that if > I ever got the chance to get back that way, I'd drop > off a few cards from my dupes box to give him the > chance to own some cards older than he is. > A couple weeks later, I went up to spend Thanksgiving > with my wife's family in New Jersey. On the way up, I > spent the night at Steve Rittenberg's place. While > there, Steve decided -- without asking -- that it was > time for me to start the 1982 Fleer and 1982/'83 > Donruss sets. Along with all his cards from those > sets in his dupes box, he emptied the 1981 Donruss > section. He also made me take a stack of 1964 Topps > Giants including about 15 of Tony Gonzalez. The cards > filled up a decent-sized box and went home with me. > Thanks to Steve, it took me about 5 hours to update my > wantlist, put away all that I needed and the rest > filled an 800-count box. The box went on the > bookshelf, where I occasionally had to tell my wife > that I'd "find someplace" for them eventually. > On Friday, I was in Cameron's neighborhood and saw his > mother out side. I stopped and asked if it was okay > to bring over "some cards" the next time I was around. > She said it was OK, and Cameron came out to ask me > how I stored my collection. Turns out his little > C-ring binder was insufficient. He also asked where > he could find a magazine I'd written for. His mother > asked if she could pay me for the cards and I told her > that wasn't necessary because I wanted to give my > extra cards a good home. Before leaving, she also > told me that their pediatrician was a good friend of > former player Al Oliver and that he had signed a ball > for Cameron. > When I got home that evening, I went and pulled out > that 800-count box that was left over from Steve's > assault on my UV wantlist. I started going through > them and pulled aside all the star cards. Pete Rose, > George Brett, Rickey Henderson, Wille Stargell, Mike > Schmidt, newest HOFer Bruce Sutter and others were > placed into a 35-card plastic holder. Near the bottom > of the stack I found a 1981 Donruss card of Al Oliver > and placed it on the top of the stack. I also added a > newer card of Johnny Damon to the stack because I knew > he is Cameron's favorite player. > While looking through the rest of the cards, I found > out that there would be a bunch of dupes to sort > through...and then it hit me. After realizing that > Cameron has traded with some of the neighborhood kids, > I figured he could find other owners for the cards in > front of me. I'd just give him the entire box. I > placed the cards back into the 800-count box and > filled the empty space with some newer cards and a few > extra '65 Embossed, placed 17 '64 Giants on the top > and closed it up. I also pulled a couple of D-ring > binders, the lastest Tuff Stuff (still in its plastic > because I never opened it) and an extra copy I had of > the Fall '05 edition of "SGC Collector" magazine with > my article on 1973 Topps cards and placed them in my > truck. > On Saturday I swung back into the neighborhood. I > pulled up to the house and rang the bell. His mother > answered but told me Cameron was out with his father. > I said it was OK, I'd just leave what I had but > needed to get them out of my truck. > You should have seen the look on her face when I came > back carrying an 800-ct. box, two 3" binders, a coupe > of magazines. When I said I was going to give him > "some cards" she was expecting something like a stack > of 25 or so. She began insisting that she should pay > me something for such a large box, but I assured her I > didn't want anything in return...the cards were given > to me and all I wanted to do was share some of my > positive hobby experience with her son. When she > opened the box and saw the '64 Giants she was > impressed. "1964? Goodness, that's the year I was > born!" As I showed her my article a car pulled into > the driveway...so I was going to see Cameron's > reaction. > As he came up and saw what I left him, his eyes opened > wide and he seemed to stutter as he thanked me. His > father started insisting that they pay me for the > stuff, and I began to explain that I belong to a > trading group called OBC that was built upon random > acts of kindness, and that its members frequently send > out cards without expecting to get cards or money > back...knowing that the member will send stuff to > another member (and a thank you to the OBC server) is > reward enough. > I pulled out the 35-count plastic box from my shirt > pocket and handed it to Cameron. He saw Al Oliver on > the top and said it was going next to the signed ball > in his display case (got that for Christmas). I > turned over the box to show him Johnny Damon and told > him he'd probably recognize the players in between. > As he looked through them it was funnier to note that > his father was more animated about the players inside. > "Pete Rose...Wow! Mike Schmidt was a great third > baseman...George Brett was probably the best hitter > I've ever seen in person...WILLIE STARGELL! Oh my > God! Look how young Rickey Henderson is...Hey, didn't > Bruce Sutter just get elected to the Hall of Fame? > Wow, I forgot Danny Ainge played baseball." I told > Cameron that he was going to have several duplicates > in the box and that he could feel free to trade them > off. > By the time I left, Cameron had thanked me no fewer > than six times. He was visbly in awe. The fact that > a stranger would come over and give him cards was > probably incredible, but his parents were even more > impressed. He was also happy to see that the magazine > I gave him had information about older cards (for > instance, the 1928 Ice Cream cards article) and he's > probably read that thing cover-to-cover already. > Twice. > So, that's the story about how I did my good deed for > the day (like the good former Boy Scout I am). After > leaving, I wondered if perhaps my reasons for giving > so much stuff to a younger collector were > self-serving. After all, I ended up with automatic > hits to my website and likely added a name to the list > of people who'd buy stuff I write in the future. I > hope that I've set an impressionable younger collector > down the right road and will see him in OBC 10-15 > years from now. > In any case, I made a kid's day by simply doing > something nice. And it made me feel good. > Take care, > Chris > I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:07:19 -0700 From: "Todd Knowles" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: graded card lunacy Are you nuts??? Just look at how much Koosman's RC books for ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geno" To: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: graded card lunacy > Not only is it not worth the money to grade it, it isn't worth the > stamp that sent it in! > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, typecard@a... wrote: >> I admit to having some graded cards in my collection, but check > out this >> auction for someone who's taken grading one step beyond _eBay: > 1981 Fleer #552 >> Jerry Koosman PSA 9 Minnesota Twins (item 8755638842 end time Feb- > 21-06 >> 19:59:44 PST)_ >> (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&item=8755638842&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_ > IT) The minimum bid is only $12! >> Andy > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: "Aaron Shirley" , yahoogroups@oldbaseball.com Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 05:50:37 +0000 From: talbot1@comcast.net Subject: Re: Yahoo uvlist membership request Please calm down Aaron. Do you have a mentor in OBC? Your mentor should be able to help you with start up questions like this. But since you asked I will try to help you out as best I can. There are a number of list servers that people in OBC participate in of which there are (4) primary or "official" servers that I administrate, they are; Announcements, Ramblings, Thanks and Want List. I have checked these servers and you are set up on all of these. There are other individuals who administrate the other list servers, here is a list of the servers and the administrators: Administrator - Mark Talbot Want List Adminstrator - Carlos Alcazar UV cards Administrator - Bob Reed The National Convention Administrator - Keith Summers Card Variations Administrator - Steve Rittenberg Pre-War cards OPC cards Non-Sports cards As you can see there are many list servers and many administrators, I may have even miss one or two. If you want to be included in any particular group then please contact the administrator of that group. There are a number of questions that many "rookies" have and that is why the OBCAC has set you up with a mentor that has been around for at least 2 years. Rather then get frustrated with situations Aaron please contact your mentor - if he doesn't know the answer to your inquiry then he will be able to find out. I hope you have found this information helpful - please feel free to call on me any time if I can be of assistance. Welcome and BE WELL!!! REGARDS ------------------- MARK -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Aaron Shirley" > Hey. > Quick question: what does it take to get into the Yahoo uvlist group? I've > submitted my name for approval - a few weeks ago - and have requested more > than once since then if there is anything further I need to do to join or be > accepted or whatever. I've not heard anything back from anyone. > What gives? Help, please! > ...and thanks. > Aaron Shirley ================= Date: 24 Jan 2006 13:32:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: New Member Applicant I've looked at Russell McBride's website and his condition requirements. Does he understand that in OBC, VG is likely to be NM and Tiptons for older sets are the rule, not the exception. I have some cards for his older sets but not in anything close to his requirements. Has anyone explained this to ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:08:35 EST To: talbot1@comcast.net, uthminsta@hotmail.com, yahoogroups@oldbaseball.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Yahoo uvlist membership request I seem to remember that Carlos is inactive. Is he still adminstrator on the UV list, and if so, is he handling that function? Perhaps some computer savvy member who is active would want to take over that function. gm ================= To: smartalecx@aol.com, talbot1@comcast.net, uthminsta@hotmail.com, yahoogroups@oldbaseball.com Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:27:50 +0000 From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Yahoo uvlist membership request Lord knows I'm active enough in the UV department. I'll volunteer to take over. -------------- Original message -------------- From: smartalecx@aol.com I seem to remember that Carlos is inactive. Is he still adminstrator on the UV list, and if so, is he handling that function? Perhaps some computer savvy member who is active would want to take over that function. gm SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:28:29 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Super Bowl Pool VI !!! Dear OBCers, For those of you who are new, this is the 6th year we have done this... I run a super bowl pool, just like the one at your office, where you get some squares and win based on the score, blah, blah, blah. This one is different because you don't pay any money. You just tell me you want in, and then send cards to the winners. If you win... you still send cards to the other winners, but you get cards from all the "non-winners". This is very light... if you can't hit a winners list, there are alternatives, one of which is just to send cards to *anyone* in OBC. The point is, this is an exercise in getting 30 or 40 guys to mail cards around :) So, check out last years results at : http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool.htm and let me know if you want to join. That is all you have to do until I announce the winners on Super Bowl Sunday. Go OBC! ================= Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:29:59 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] graded card lunacy In a message dated Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:07:19, "Todd Knowles" < tknowles@sofast.net> writes: > Geno, > Are you nuts??? Just look at how much Koosman's RC books for ;) True story: At one of the Ft. Washington shows a few years ago, the free autograph guest was Jerry Koosman. I had purchased a slightly tipton version his RC for $50 (which is probably not as great a deal now as it was when I got it). I decided that it would be pretty cool to get this card signed. As I was waiting in line, I noticed a few people holding the UV reprint that Topps was inserting into packs from a more recent set. In fact, the two in front of me, boy and his Dad, had one and were into a conversation in which somehow the father happened to mention something like, "Imagine if someone had a REAL rookie card to get signed?!" I obviously overheard and interrupted with, "You mean like this one?" and showed them the card, which got a wide-eyed look from both of them. When I eventually reached the head of the line, I handed the card over to someone who slid it to Jerry. He paused for a moment and checked the out. "Well, the is the first real McCoy I've seen today." (I was way back in line too.) He signed the card very neatly at the bottom of his picture and handed it back to me saying, "You know, this card wouldn't be worth a quarter my picture wasn't on it." which drew a few chuckles from all within earshot. Now if I can only find out if/when that other guy is signing... Ken M - PS - I've sent an e-mail to Carlos about making someone a moderator for the UV list (Geordie and/or me), so they can add new members during his inactivity. Hopefully he'll get back to me soon. ================= To: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:36:30 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Cheap '65s at Sims http://68.178.160.179/index.php?categoryID101&sortPrice&directionDESC www.simsclassicsports. Some cheap 65s including a Mays and a Koufax for $10 ================= Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 18:15:14 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: OBC Help in Washington (State) I am planning on attending the SABR convention in Seattle June 29 through July 2. Because of my procrastination, the 99 dollar rooms are taken, so I have decided to fly into Portland (knocking off yet another state on my quest to 50) and rent a car to drive to Seattle. My question to you. Is there a thing a a cheap room in the Seattle area? I can stay at the Renassaince (where Sabr is being held) for 169 a month but figure I can get cheaper and pay parking, and renting a car and still save money. Any help is appreciated P.S. Anyone in Oregon who can meet up with me on June 27th I appreciate the company and adding you to my ever expanding People I met list. ================= Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 19:29:33 EST To: OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, From: biggies@aol.com Subject: Pin question Hello fellow cardboardians, I hope that you are well. After more than 3 months of abject misery brought on by no golf, I and 11 other cabin-fevered thwackers head to Florida for 4 days of 6 rounds of torid paced rust covered golf tomorrow. I am so psyched!!! Now, I could use some help. My wife is a special student aide. She basically teaches one on one with students with autism and CP and advanced MS. She is with a pretty great kid right now, 3rd grader, very bright named David. He has cerebral Palsey. David and a few of the other wheelchair kids have started collecting pins. I had a few and gave them to him and he and his buddies gobbled them up immediately. It is their version of card collecting right now. I wanted to ask if anyone had any extra pins hanging around if they would be willing to donate them to these kids. I would be happy to send some cards in return. David is a Red Sox fan so I am especially hoping to get a couple of those as all I had were Indians, Orioles and a football pin. Appreciate any help, Thanks, Bob Bannon ================= Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 17:23:18 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Michael Wierzbicki Subject: My Five Favorite Sports Moments Hi, Guys! This will be a long ramblings, so be forewarned. It has been a while since anyone has contributed their favorite sports moments. Try these on for size . . . . 5. The Packers win the Superbowl in 1996. Favre was having a great year! The defense was strong and the offense was super! The final result was never in question. After suffering with losing teams for decades, it was great to have another title in Titletown! 4. Harvey Haddix pitches a perfect game for 12 innings . . . and loses the game! Lew Burdette tosses a shutout and takes Haddix and the Pirates to the 13th. In the bottom of the 13th, leadoff hitter Billy Bruton gets on base with an error. A couple of outs and a walk to Aaron later, Joe Adcock gets the first hit for the Braves--a homerun to center (or so we thought). A young Aaron rounds second base and, as had been the custom in his Negro League days, ran directly to home to join the celebration. Adcock rounds the bases triumphantly. At first, the game was announced as ending 3-0. However, there was a controversy. Because Aaron left the basepath, Adcock passed him and so there was an out on the basepaths. Luckily, Bruton scored before the final out of the inning was made. Adcock is credited with a double and the final score is 1-0. Actually, I didn't see the game. However, my father and uncle were there and so I heard the story many times. 3. Hank Aaron returns to Milwaukee to play with the Brewers. I grew up in the late-1950s, watching the Milwaukee Braves. (The national anthem, which I only heard at baseball games, ended, I thought, with the line: "and the home of the Braves.") My family would go to about a dozen games a year and we would sit in the right field extension to watch Aaron. What a player! I graduated from college in 1975 and was going to move away from the city to attend graduate school that Fall. Aaron's return to Milwaukee was a great sendoff. Remember this trivia question? What do Ruth, Mays, and Aaron have in common, other than their hitting records? They all began and ended their careers in the same city, playing for different teams. 2. The Packers win the Ice Bowl. Bart Starr scores on a quarterback sneak in the final seconds of a game that was sheer torture to play in due to the cold. If you live in Wisconsin, you can picture the play. You can see the puffs of steam coming from the players' mouths. The teams line up. Starr takes the snap and follows Jerry Kramer's block into the zone. A dynasty! When I was a kid, I thought that Packers football was a TV show and not a sporting event. Why? They always won. Even when they didn't win, it was just because the clock ran out before they could complete their comeback. 1. Marquette's 1977 NCAA Basketball Championship. Remember the backstory? In mid-season, Al McGuire, the fiery coach of Marquette announces that he will retire after the season. The team was in the top 10 for 10 years straight but is struggling and barely gets into the tournament. (They set a record for the most losses by the tournament winner.) The early games are tough, with come-from-behind wins over long-time rivals DePaul and Cincinnati. In the semi-final, NC-Charlotte ties the game with 3 seconds left and Marquette calls time out. Remember Al walking to mid-court during the timeout, looking up to see if the scoreboard will interfere with a pass? Butch Lee fires a baseball pass the length of the court . . . the defender deflects the ball . . . Jerome Whitehead picks up the ball, turns, and fires at the buzzer. It takes a minute for the officials to confer and determine that the shot beat the buzzer. In the final, Marquette played a heavily favored North Carolina, coached by Dean Smith. Marquette is up by 12 at the half. The Tarheels storm back in the second half and tie the game. With about 11 minutes left, Carolina goes into the four corners offense/stall--a terrible coaching move that breaks the tempo of the game. Marquette sits back for two minutes (this was before the college shot clock). With the crowd both cheering and booing, Carolina eventually breaks for the basket. Marquette knocks the ball away, takes it downcourt and scores. Forced out of their stall, Carolina tries to return to what had brought them back, but to no avail. Marquette wins going away. At the end of the game, McGuire is crying on the bench - - - what a moment! Disney could make it into one of their inspirational sports movies, like The Rookie and The Miracle, only this ending is less believable. Sorry for the length. I have been thinking about my top five moments for a couple of weeks and finally had to offer them to the group. I have plenty of other favorites (the introduction of the all-century baseball team, Yount's 3,000th hit, the night that the Brewers had 32 hits against the BlueJays, watching the Brewers turn a triple play and a rookie pitcher throw a 1-hitter in his debut to beat Roger Clemens in a doubleheader, Marquette's blowing out top seed Kentucky in the 2004 Elite Eight, listening to the Milwaukee Braves hit 4 consecutive home runs (one of which was by OBC's own Frank Thomas), and on and on. For those who persevered to the end, I hope I brought back some memories. Mike W ================= To: , Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 08:33:53 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Help in Washington (State) Ray, it's only a six hour drive from my house! I'll let ya in the guest room for free!! Of course, Florence is 180 miles the wrong way from Portland to Seattle...but if you've got the time I can save you hotel money ( and 15% off your car insurance! ) Ta Da! Problem solved OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: LUURSCJG@aol.com To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Help in Washington (State) I am planning on attending the SABR convention in Seattle June 29 throughJuly 2. Because of my procrastination, the 99 dollar rooms are taken, so I have decided to fly into Portland (knocking off yet another state on my quest to 50) and rent a car to drive to Seattle. My question to you. Is there a thing a a cheap room in the Seattle area?I can stay at the Renassaince (where Sabr is being held) for 169 a month but figure I can get cheaper and pay parking, and renting a car and still save Any help is appreciated P.S. Anyone in Oregon who can meet up with me on June 27th I appreciate the company and adding you to my ever expanding People I met list. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:53:13 -0500 From: Bob Saxton Subject: Pgh. Pirate vintage question This is for all those Bucco fans.....a friend of mine has the following item that she is trying to get and idea of what it's worth. Has anyone seen this before, or have any idea of what it might be worth? I tried to take photos but my flash wasn't working. When I get some new batteries in the camera I could email pics. Thanks! Bob This is a baseball portfolio of “excellent reproductions of six drawings by famous sports artist Robert Riger”. These were available compliments of local tri-state Ford dealers in the Pittsburgh region. It is believed they were given with purchase of a new car in 1961, in celebration of the Pirates World Series win on Bill Mazeroski’s ninth inning homer run in Game 7 of the 1960 Series. These are fine lithographs on art quality paper stock, and the six 11”x14” sheets are suitable for framing. Drawings included in the set are “Maz gets the big hit”, “Hoak handles a hot shot at third”, “The Law”, “Bob Friend comes in with the fast one”, “Clemente lines one over second”, and “Groat cuts down a Brave steal”. All the drawings are in excellent, clean condition. Also included is a 35 page”1961 Major League Baseball Guide”, 5 ¼ x 7 ½ format that includes these features “New faces, new places; 1960 NL statistics; 1960 AL statistics; Pennant-series records; NL schedules-rosters; AL schedules-rosters; All-star games; Major League awards; Pacesetters; Hall of Fame, and a Quiz. They all are in a 12” x 15”portfolio folder which has a copy of the Groat drawing on the front, and on the back features “Star Performers of the New-Car League” “Ford’s All-Star Line-up for 1961”, and then sketches of the Falcon Futura, Fairlane, Galaxie, Sunliner, Country Squire, and Thunderbird, with a paragraph for each describing its features. The front of the folder is stained with splots of some kind, and has names and a phone number written in ink and pencil near the bottom. Back of the folder is clean. The prints themselves, as indicated above, are very clean and attractive. ================= Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:20:06 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: AIM...again Hello all So far only TJ Valacak has emailed some of the guys telling us he got the AIM for chats If anyone else has Set up an AIM account email me so i can get you on my budd ylist and so you can be invited to Sunday and Tuesday night chats, and any other chats we wind up setting up ...the more guys on AIM/aol the more chats we can set up if you need the link here it is _AIM.com_ (http://www.aim.com/) Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 03:17:03 +0000 From: dodgergeo@comcast.net Subject: Article on theonion.com - anyone feel the pain? Fans of The Onion will be familiar with their great satire. This is in today's Sports section: Mother Throws Away Son's Baseball-Card Collection As Required By Narrative Convention NEW HAVEN, CT: With her son Jason safely away at college, Janet Pinsky fulfilled the traditional custom of any suburban mother by throwing away her son's baseball-card collection without asking his permission. "Lord knows I didn't want to just toss seven years and over 1,300 cards, including the '86 Topps Traded Barry Bonds rookie, the rare limited-edition Michael Jordan Upper Deck, and the '91 Donruss Signature Series Ripken with hologram border into the trash, but I have certain obligations as a middle-class-mother archetype," said Pinsky, who years earlier was helpless to do anything but disapprove of Jason's first girlfriend even though she seemed like a perfectly sweet girl, and whose own mother had no choice but to give away her brother's 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle rookie. "It's a shame I had to get rid of them; some of those cards would have been worth a lot of money someday." In keeping with the convention, Pinsky will remain silent on the issue until Alex Rodriguez hits his 800th home run 10 years from now, at which point she will inform her excited son that the cards were taking up too much room in the basement and that he hadn't played with them in years, anyway. ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 08:21:59 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com Subject: Tipton 1963 Aaron on ebay This card looks like it belongs in an OBC collection: http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-63-TOPPS-HANK-AARON-BRAVES-390-HR-KING-HOF-175_W0QQitemZ8757456962QQcategoryZ60491QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:35:38 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: A Night To Remember Hello all, Last night was by far one of the best nights I've had in a long time. It started not so well. It started with my son coming home and getting in trouble...so needless to say he and I were yelling..well I was doing all the yelling and he was doing all the Yes-ing me to death he could. Later at dinner he and I were chatting about as he called it "stuff" So things seemed to be getting better. Later I am on the computer Chatting with Father Pat, and My son Robbie who knows nothing or should I say doesn't care about baseball cards but could tell you everything their is to know about Pokemon cards, comes over and asks me about my cards.....Wow I told Father Pat I had to go, It was the first time my son showed any interest. Now me being the skeptical person I am I look at the clock and its 9 PM and his bed time is 10 PM so he isn't just trying to stay up late. So I go upstairs to my baseball card shelves ( they are in the attic) yes that's where my wife lets me keep them in the walk up attic that I had to make shelves for...LOL but that's not important right now, and I get my tin box of HOFers cards, and sentimental cards. We both sit down in my little office and look through the cards. He was so happy he was asking questions. He was shocked to know that the Giants and Dodgers played in NY, then even more shocked on how the Mets came up with their Uniforms. Time flew by and we are about to wrap things up and he asks me " Dad which is your favorite card?" I said to myself...wow that's an amazing question never really thought about that. Then I went and took out 3 cards my 1961 topps MVP Mantle, My 1957 topps Carl Erskine and my 1960 topps Andy Carey.....Now at this time my wife has joined in on the looking on and conversation and she asked me "what about your dream card I bought you. The 1956 topps Mantle or the 54 Topps Ted Williams?" my son added " Yeah dad if those were your dream cards why aren't they your favorite?" I said " Guys I love those cards but the 3 cards that are my favorite are my favorite because my father gave them to me." You see the 61 Mantle was my first Mickey Mantle card and my father bought it for me for Easter when I was 12 then the Carl Erskine and Andy Carey cards were cards that my dad hid from his mother when he was a kid, and he gave them to me, now the Carey its a Tipton no doubt, but the Erskine wow it looks like it just came out of a wrapper. My son understood what I was saying and the reasons why they were my favorite. He said " Those cards are sentimental to you, I hope one day I get some of your cards." and at that point I realized what I was going to do. For the longest time I was debating on how to split the sets up for my 2 boys. Then last night I realized....I will break the sets up and give them to both so both of my boys will have to put them together..maybe together maybe not. but they both will have something I common. Ok this is long I know. I'm sorry but there is a little more. So the time flew I look at the clock and its 11 PM wow 2 hrs went by like that. Next thing I know it me and Robbie are joking around about stuff everyday stuff....My god I never saw the kid laugh so much and so genuinely It was a great bond we shared last night and its a night I will never forget. I'm sorry it was so long, just thought it was a story you guys would liked to have had shared. Like I said in the Heading A Night To Remember Thanx for listening Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= To: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 14:25:22 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Billy Hoeft is my Dad Gang, I got this email today, and I am pretty pumped about it.....thought I would share it with you, and yes, damn straight I'm going to answer...... I was looking up some old stats on my dad and got your name on one of my Googles. You can imagine my surprise when I read your entry about being the Founder, President, etc of the Billy Hoeft fan club! Okay, add me to the list.... My mom and dad are well and living in north central Michigan where they enjoy the snow in the winter and the golf in the summer. I am a retired submarine captain living here in the Washington DC area and my brother is a Navy helicopter pilot now in the Persian Gulf. I was born in '58, so I have only a few faint memories of the later years of my dad's baseball career and my brother has none at all (born in 1968). We have decided to try to get together and compile all of the great stories that my dad has told us over the years...there are so many classics, we want to make sure we capture them. After all, our parents aren't getting any If there are any particular stories in your archive that you want to know more about, let me know. We'll pull the string with my dad and get "the rest of the story" and we'll keep you posted on our project. I can confirm your guess that my dad "enjoyed every minute" playing the game. It's true. He had a great time, on and off the field. He and Harvey Kuenn (my dad's best man) were roommates on road trips and were both well known for having a good time. After a while, Hutchinson the manager split them up because they were always breaking curfew and getting in trouble. Later, he thought better of it and put them back together, saying "Hell, there isn't any sense having four guys not getting any sleep." If you want, drop me a note at the hotmail address in the info line. All the best, Billy Jr. P.S. I didn't see this anywhere in your stats, but did you know that my dad once struck out the side in 9 pitches? It has only happened 39 times in baseball history (by 36 pitchers), and my dad was the 9th pitcher to do it...7 September 1953 (at the ripe old age of 21 years). Bill Hoeft Senior Staff Technology Assessment Group Systems Planning and Analysis, Inc. 2001 North Beauregard St Alexandria, VA 22311 (W) (703)-399-7081 (C) (703)-577-4253 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/242 - Release Date: ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 20:54:42 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Super Bowl Pool Update.... Dear Cardboardians, If you said you wanted in on the Super Bowl Pool VI, then your name should be here: http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool.htm If it isn't, let me know. If you want in, let me know. I will accept additions until probably Thursday night, when I draw numbers. I want to give people time to print it out at work on Friday :) Go OBC! ================= Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:12:07 -0800 To: grains@dccnet.com (Grant), OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: digdugdig@webtv.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Billy Hoeft is my Dad Wow Grant!!! What a thrill!!....priceless!!! When me, Bri, and another friend went to Cooperstown in '95....Steve Carlton looking me right in the eye and speaking to me...Bob Feller, not just signing the photo, but giving you all the details from that moment...#%^& I will never forget!!!. The best 3 day vacation of my I remember meeting an elderly gentleman in a bar and he was an old Brooklyn Dodgers fan and told me some great stories about Pete Reiser...his hero...my education...i#$%@ ya never forget!!! ================= To: Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 07:08:05 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Billy Hoeft is my Dad One of the stories I asked Bill Jr. about was whether or not Billy really did "groove" a pitch to Harmon Killebrew for his first home run....here's the reply: I'm home now and just got off the phone with my dad. The answer on Killebrew is "yes and no." The Tigers were playing the Senators at Griffith Stadium June 24 1955. dad thinks the score at the time was something like 16 to 4 with Detroit leading (they went on to win 18-7), and Killebrew came up in about the as a pinch hitter. With a lead like that, my dad sure wasn't going to With no prior arrangement with my dad, Frank House the catcher says to Killebrew, "Here comes a fast ball, kid." Of course, Killebrew thinks he's going to get a curve ball or a ball in ear, but lo and behold, he gets a fast ball right down the gutter and he looks at it. House says, "C'mon kid, let's see what you got. Here another." This time, Killebrew sits on the fast ball and jacks it "30 into the bleachers" according to dad. My folks are driving down to Florida for a little vacation in a few and he expects to see Killer then. Frank House told my dad the above but my dad has never talked about it to Killebrew. Dad said he wants to Killebrew what he remembers about that day...see if the story is the from his memory. My dad does fondly remember what Killebrew once said to an interviewer asked about that first homer...it was something like, "I knew that if I could hit a homer off Billy, I could hit one off anybody." More later. Have a good weekend. Billy Jr. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:28:47 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-announcements@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Instructions for downloading Baseball Card Images Project The transfer of rights of the Baseball Card Images Project is going along slowly, and rightly so - I really appreciate the advice given to me by everyone, especially Steve Rittenberg. The business entrepreneur seems to think there'll be no problem with an indemnification waiver for potential copyright infringement, and right now we're working on getting him to put that in writing. In the meantime, as I have carefully worded it to others, it would be extremely unprofessional of me to say that now would be an excellent time for anyone interested in getting a copy of BBCI to download it from my personal web site, www.deliafamily.net. Of course I would never suggest that, nudge nudge wink wink, but if I was to suggest that, here are a set of instructions on how those images might be downloaded. If you don't have a high-speed solution, let me know, and I'll see if I can burn the .zip file onto a CD for you. Method to download Baseball Card Images from www.deliafamily.net Method 1. Retrieve a Windows Compressed Folder as a single file containing all BBCI folders and card images Step 1: Open up a Windows command-line prompt window (Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> Command Prompt) Step 2: Go to the C:\ root directory by issuing the command: cd \ Step 3: Enter the following FTP command: ftp www.deliafamily.net Step 4: Enter u36412907-ftp as the account in response to the next prompt Step 5: Enter bbciftp as the password in response to the next prompt Step 6: If you want, issue the command dir to list all files in the Step 7: Make sure you have a DSL or cable Internet connection. Anything else will choke your computer to death. Step 8: Download the zipped file by issuing the FTP command: get BBCI.zip Step 9: Wait several hours for the 560MB file to be transmitted (several minutes, actually, on cable) Step 10: Get into Windows Explorer, navigate to the C:\ directory Step 11: Double-click on the BBCI.zip file. It will show up as a folder of objects. Step 12: Select the option to extract all files. That will create a BBCI uncompressed folder on your C:\ directory. Step 13: Photos are stored by set folders within category folders all stored in the BBCI folder. Method 2. Download each folder in the /BBCI directory from Step 1. Obtain a copy of FileZilla from http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla 1A. Click on the green "Download FileZilla" bar 1B. On the next page, under "Latest File Releases", under the column "Packages", click on the first line "FileZilla" 1C. On the next page, in the list of files, click on 1D. An automatic download of this file to your workstation should begin immediately. It will be about 3.5MB in size. 1E. Make note of where on your computer the install file was downloaded to. 1F. Double-click on the install file to install FileZilla to your Step 2. Start up FileZilla and add an account on www.deliafamily.net 2A. Double-click the FileZilla desktop icon, expand to fullscreen if 2B. On the FileZilla menu bar, select File -> Site Manager... and click the "New Site" button. 2C. Enter BBCI" as the name of the new site - cursor will be in the proper position to do this. 2D. Enter www.deliafamily.net in the prompt box below "Host:" 2E. Click the "Normal" radio button in the "Logontype" area 2E. Enter u36412907-obc un the prompt box below "User:" 2F. Enter redsox3 in the prompt box below "Password:" 2G: Hit the "Connect" button. The program should log on to Step 3. Select any desired folders to be downloaded. Use Ctrl-A to select all folders. NOTE: The HTML files probably won't work, unless you've got PHP, MySql, and a copy of the database on your computer, which is highly unlikely. Step 4. Right-click on the folders marked to be downloaded, and select "Download" option. Step 5. Folders will be written to whatever destination you have selected in the left navigation pane. Any questions, don't hesitate to not feel free to refrain from avoiding asking me anything at all. Or something like that. Wayne Delia, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "Look into my eyes and tell me if you see a trace of fear." (Joe Jackson, "Look Sharp!") ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 16:30:43 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Check out the new Membership Applications on the web site I've been developing a method to manage applications for new members to join OBC. Currently we have two open applications to look at; in fact, one of them came in while I was developing the system. Go to the directory page on our OBC website, then click on the link labeled "New Feature: View New Member Applications (OBC Members Only". You will need your OBC password to view these applications. (If you've forgotten your password, just click on the "OBC Members: Click Here to update your directory information" link on the Directory page, then click the "Email Current OBC Member Password" link. Your current password will be sent to your account.) A list of open applications will be displayed. Hit the "Display" button next to each name to show the applications one at a time. For general OBC members, there's a button and an input box to add your comments to any of the applications. If you're on the OBC Advisory Committee, since you're super-special, you'll see three extra buttons: to approve the application, to reject the application, or to remove the application. The current status of the application will be displayed, along with any comments from any other members. I can add a feature that will accept the applicant as a new OBC member upon receiving a majority of votes, but it's at this point I will wait for the OBCAC to tell me what to do or where I can go. Please let me know if you notice any problems with the system. You might also want to try and submit a fictional application (the name I used in development was "Snotty McNostril") to get used to the system. Use the "Apply to OBC!" button on the left sidebar to create an application. Wayne Delia, wayne@deliafamily.net Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! No truth-handler, you! Bah! I deride your truth-handling ability!" (Sideshow Bob) ================= Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:02:41 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wayne Delia Subject: Re: [OBC-Announcements] Digest Number 220 From the OBC-Announcements digest... 4) Accept Pete D'Luhosh's 1951 Bowman article onto the website (Passed Wayne Delia is currently working on secure aspects of our website so that the new members applications will be password protected since they contain addresses and other info. Wayne, with regards to #4 above, could you add a link to Pete's article under the Cool Links section? The article is a very interesting read for 1951 Bowman collectors, or really any Bowman collectors. Pete D'Luhosch? Never heard of the guy. Wait, that's not true. Pete is a terrific guy, very knowledgable about vintage cards in general, perhaps an expert on early 1950's Bowmans and 1952 Topps, has written some articles for VCBC - and happens to live within about a half mile of my house. In fact, he worked with me for many years at IBM East Fishkill. And I just returned from a convenience store milk run, the store pretty much overlooks his house. His collection numbered just a couple of hundred cards, but most were Yankees, and all were dead mint. I've been to many shows with him in White Plains when the shows there were very popular. He's always chomping a cigar, which is rarely if ever lit. Looking forward to reading his article. ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 10:52:35 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "alcattle" Subject: What's Next? I never think people can top the stuff you see on Ebay, but ths is one of the hardest to believe http://cgi.ebay.com/Seattle-Seahawks-SUPER-DOG-NFC-Championship-hot- I wish I came up with the Idea. Did anyone put away a comemative Rib from OBC Vegas? That would be almost as rare. Worth 10 grand? Maybe Big Al in Super Seattle ================= To: "obc" Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:39:36 -0600 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: NON Sports cards vintage help needed Is there a "book' with listings of just non sports cards out there????? I was thinking about maybe starting some sets....but really know nothing ofvalues....years they were produced... Does Krause publications have something....... I figured this group could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for any help. Ken Goetsch ================= To: , "alcattle" Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:01:11 -0500 From: "George" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's Next? I like this one..........especially the "nice centering" part. http://cgi.ebay.com/Topps-1956-Mickey-Mantle-135-LOOK_W0QQitemZ8756426562QQcategoryZ60484QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ----- Original Message ----- From: "alcattle" To: Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:52 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] What's Next? >I never think people can top the stuff you see on Ebay, but ths is one > of the hardest to believe > http://cgi.ebay.com/Seattle-Seahawks-SUPER-DOG-NFC-Championship-hot- > dog_W0QQitemZ5659617304QQcategoryZ1467QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView > Item > I wish I came up with the Idea. Did anyone put away a comemative Rib > from OBC Vegas? That would be almost as rare. Worth 10 grand? Maybe > Big Al in Super Seattle > Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 14:18:15 -0600 To: George From: Dr John Harrell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What's Next? Actually, accept for the ragged edge around Mick's throat, there is a nice symmetry to the missing portion, at least Vgish. This is a borderline "poor" card with lots of VG-Ex characteristics. P.S. I tried to keep a straight face as I typed. George wrote: >I like this one..........especially the "nice centering" part. >http://cgi.ebay.com/Topps-1956-Mickey-Mantle-135-LOOK_W0QQitemZ8756426562QQcategoryZ60484QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >----- Original Message ----- >From: "alcattle" >To: >Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:52 AM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] What's Next? >>I never think people can top the stuff you see on Ebay, but ths is one >>of the hardest to believe >>http://cgi.ebay.com/Seattle-Seahawks-SUPER-DOG-NFC-Championship-hot- >>I wish I came up with the Idea. Did anyone put away a comemative Rib >>from OBC Vegas? That would be almost as rare. Worth 10 grand? Maybe >>Big Al in Super Seattle >>Yahoo! Groups Links >Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: kgoetsch@gdinet.com Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 12:51:41 -0500 From: Bob Saxton Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] NON Sports cards vintage help needed Ken, The only books I know of are the Sport Americana Price Guides to Non-Sports Cards, two volumes I think, from the early 1980s. You might be able to find them through Amazon or some other book dealer. When I want check lists for some of the vintage sets I go to the link below where you can find the year and you can get a list of all the cards in the series, but it doesn't have values. Best place I've found for values of the older non-sports has been checking ebay listings, and if you go to the ebay advanced search you can check the box for completed auctions and see what cards in that set have sold for. I've had a lot of fun with my older non-sports. Last week I took some of the World on Wheels cards to show my history class the development of early automobiles. Good luck! http://www.psacard.com/set%5Fregistry/display_categories.chtml?sportscati On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:39:36 -0600 "ken goetsch" Is there a "book' with listings of just non sports cards out there????? I was thinking about maybe starting some sets....but really know nothing of values....years they were produced... Does Krause publications have something....... I figured this group could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for any help. Ken Goetsch SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:07:11 -0800 From: Peter Iversen Subject: Re: Baseball Cards Anyone else get this...?? If anyone can help this fellow - please contact his directly... On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 01:09:12 -0500 "Kevin Molloy" writes: > I found you thru google and at the oldbaseballl.com. I was curious > if you know anything about the O'Connell and Son Ink sent of 1984. If > could you steer me in the right direction if you do know who to talk > Thank > you very much for your time. > Kevin ================= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:41:13 -0500 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: Fw: avail. Hank coke cap ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Schott To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: avail. Hank coke cap I found out that Lynn Miller already has this Hank Coke Cap so I will raffle it off. If you are interested, send me a return email by 9:30 pm this evening and Iwill throw your name into a Baltimore Orioles 1963 "B" cap and draw a winner the coke cap is numbered (I think) N19 and is an all star version with Henry Aarons name below his smiling countenance. good luck kids ================= To: Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 19:02:54 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] NON Sports cards vintage help needed There is also a World Index published by the Cartophilic Society of Great Britianthat lists with N and T cards. I believe it is a three volume set, with Volume II containing American cards. On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 05:39:36 -0600 "ken goetsch" Is there a "book' with listings of just non sports cards out there????? I was thinking about maybe starting some sets....but really know nothing of values....years they were produced... Does Krause publications have something....... I figured this group could point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for any help. Ken Goetsch SPONSORED LINKS card supply card display case card protector card holder ryan baseball card baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 08:38:51 EST To: wayne@deliafamily.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Check out the new Membership Applications on the web site Wayne: Great idea, but since comments on an individual app are supposed to be considered by the OBCAC, I am not sure that all comments should be viewable by the entire membership. gm ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:46:29 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: OBCAC Elections - Nominations open February 1 Content-Language: en I won't be available to send this tomorrow evening, so I hope you don't mind this being a day early. I will be serving as election commissioner for the OBCAC this year. Members shall serve on the OBCAC for one year from March 1, 2006 through February 28, 2007. Nominations and acceptances will be accepted at _smartalecx@aol.com_ (mailto:smartalecx@aol.com) from February 1 thru February 14 for candidates for both a non-voting OBCAC Facilitator and seven OBCAC voting members. A member may be nominated and appear on the ballot for both positions. Should the same member be elected to both positions, that member will choose to accept oneof those positions, and the next highest vote recipient for the declined position will be considered elected. Anyone who has been in OBC for at least 3 years is considered qualified to be nominated and elected. This is critical =E2=93 please DO NOT submit a name for nomination without asking and receiving permission from the nominee. A nominee's acceptance is required. For the person doing the nominating, please copy me in on your email asking if someone is interested. For the person accepting nomination, please copy me in on your email accepting the nomination. I will contact both of you once the nomination has been made and accepted. On February 15, I will send another email detailing the election process and the list of candidates. I will release the voting results (but not vote totals) to the general membership on March 1. Actual vote totals shall be available privately for days after the election. Thanks for your particpation and cooperation. Gary Mandell ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:50:13 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: OBCAC Elections - One More Thing When submitting and/or accepting a nomination, please be sure to make it clear whether this is for the committee, facilitator or both. tnx, gm ================= Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:49:11 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Soon To be February Waiver Wire Hello All Its almost February already, and im going to throw out a few Waiver wirer cards. DOnt Let these Fall through the cracks, FCFS on these guys like in the waiver draft. 1954 Bowman#59 "Big Bad" Bob Schultz (Seriously Trimmed) 1955 Bowman #94 "Hammering" Hank Thompson ( Trimmed) 1955 Topps #85 Don "I cant Hear You" Mossi 1956 Topps #19 "Charming " Chuck Diering 1957 Topps #83 The Infamous Lou Skizas 1958 topps #72/122/123 1960 Topps # 236 the immortal Dick Ricketts 1963 topps #s102 red top and yellow top 1964 topps #186 Roman "I'm not from Italy" Mejias & 188 1965 topps #57 STL Cards team card 1966 Topps #s75/171/173/174 1967 topps #s 40/51/203 1968 Topps #130 Tony " I finally in the Hall of Fame' Perez 1969 Topps # 139 the Incomparable Andy Kosco 1971 topps #a349/395/420/699 1972 topps # 365 "The Boss man" Dick Sosman 1973 topps#s401 EMAIL ME if you want any Rob "The Fireman" Gioia ================= To: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:03:03 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Pre-war Goudeys and Tattoo Orbits from Kurt Turdot OBC friendly dealer Kurt Turdot has told me about a new load of pre war Goudeys (including many $20 HOFers) and Tattoo Orbit cards that he has available. As of now, there are no scans on his website. He said that the prices will be from 5% of BV and LOWER. He specifically wrote this: "As far as the Tattoo Orbits, too many to list, I have a lot in the tub that are trimmed (and really trimmed) from 5% on down. I think there is a Connie Mack for less than $10. If somebody has a list, let them know! Also I have a number of Goudey HOFers in the $20 case. Fronts are decent enough, most have bad backs." Please contact Kurt directly at k2doe@msn.com. ================= To: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:51:27 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: Goudey's galore Must have been a horde of Goudey's out there as I also wanted to add that John Morrison emailed me about his listings for 33 and 37 Goudey cards along with some 41 Play Ball and a few Diamond Stars that are on eBay starting between $6 - $9. He mentioned that they were on consignment so he couldn't offer them outright as the seller wanted them to be listed online. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZoldbbcards From the link, just use the menu system at the left to drill down to the appropriate year to easily find the cards available. ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:04:55 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com From: jdelott@aol.com Subject: Couple of Peel Offs I just started collecting the '63 peel offs and picked up 2 dupes today as part of an ebay grouping. I have Lumpe and Hinton to trade if anyone has a peel off on my list. ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:35:55 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: question on burger chef disc I just bought a 1977 Burger Chef unfolded funmeal box with Bert Blyleven and 6 or 7 other Texas Rangers. Quite obviously I only want the Blyleven disc, but my question is if i were to take jsut that disc and maybe give other disc ou to others or should I keep them intact to increase value ================= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 19:22:41 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Super Bowl Pool VI only 48 hours until I draw numbers! On Thursday night sometime around 8pm, I will draw numbers, so I need to know before then if you are in. Check out who's in so far at: http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/pool.htm let me know if you want in! Go OBC! ================= Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:23:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "mikesportsfan" Subject: Super Bowl pregame activities In case anyone is close enough they wish to come in for Super Bowl pregame activities, please contact me on my cell (248) 709-2235. I may have a couple of extra passes for a private party at the NFL Experience at 8:00 am (est) Saturday, Feb. 4, followed by free passes to the NFL Celbrity Flag FB game at 3:00 (gates open at 2:30). Sunday there is a card show starting at 8:30 am. Ron Perry is headed this way for the game and card show. Mike Rich