================= To: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:37:53 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Offer for Ft Washington attendees I have some stuff that is too bulky to mail but maybe I can pass out in person: -- Krause Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards -- 2 or 3 available going backto -- 3 ring binders of all thicknesses -- top loaders -- semi rigid card holders -- odd sized card holders for stuff like exhibits and tall-boys -- 8 and 9 pocket pages -- these are NOT ultra pro. They are from companies like BCW. I use them now for very low priority sets and for slicing up so I can mail 'em out. -- padded mailers in all sizes -- 10, 25, 50, 100 count plastic boxes Let me know if I should put some of this stuff into the car. ================= To: "obc" Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:35:58 -0600 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: What kind of pages are best?????? Steve Rittenberg, send out an email regarding things he was willing to bring to the card show this weekend....including 9 pocket pages...... It got me thinking.......What kind of pages to you all use for your collection.....I really don't know the difference from 1 brand to another,[as Steve mentions in his email.] What are the pros and cons.....Just looking for some knowledge. On another subject......I have seen advertisements for very nice binders from http://www.mjroop.com Are they worth it....Does anybody use them? Thanks in advance for the impute. Ken Goetsch-OBC ================= To: "obc" Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 11:19:17 -0600 From: "ken goetsch" Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] VERY VERY BELATED THANX Thanks for the idea............Rob....I am going to have to remember that1111111111111.......[To blame the wife.].....wondering if that will work at my I know I have forgotten envelopes, and misplaced them. Ken Goetsch ----- Original Message ----- From: Celenox@aol.com To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:17 AM Subject: [OBC-Thanks] VERY VERY BELATED THANX Wow What a bone head i am. These 2 thanx are several MONTHS late. Apperently sometimes if i get mail when im at work the wife puts the envelopes away and i dont find them for a few months like this instance. Thanx TO Joe Isaac who sends 3 hits to my 59 topps thanx to Ed Schott for sending to sharp 1957 topps Orioles cards Thank you guys and sorry, I guess better late then never ROB G YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Thanks" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:37:57 -0000 From: "Glenn" Subject: Helmar help With all the Helmar purchases that seem to be going on, I thought I'd take the opportunity to make what I hope will be a very helpful offer. I'm sure that in the course of trying to complete your collections, many of you will be left with loads of difficult to store dupes..of Helmar beer. If so, I'm more than happy to make myself available as the "go to" guy on this. I have a ready-made storage facility (popularly known as my stomach - I no longer have a six-pack.more like a keg), and can accommodate as many bottles as necessary to allow you guys more room to store your cards and Unfortunately, I have to go against OBC tradition and insist on unopened, mint-condition bottles only. I sincerely hope that OBC members appreciate this sacrifice on my part, and that you will take advantage of my offer - preferably before New Year. Glasgow, Scotland ================= To: "'Glenn'" , Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:35:05 -0500 From: Scott Earle Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Helmar help I have a bottle or 2 with your name on it coming your way (baring any problems mailing alcohol over seas) I'll even throw in a carrier for you :-) --Scott 'Squirrel' Earle- www.SquirrelsCards.net From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:38 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Helmar help With all the Helmar purchases that seem to be going on, I thought I'd take the opportunity to make what I hope will be a very helpful offer. I'm sure that in the course of trying to complete your collections, many of you will be left with loads of difficult to store dupes..of Helmar beer. If so, I'm more than happy to make myself available as the "go to" guy on this. I have a ready-made storage facility (popularly known as my stomach - I no longer have a six-pack.more like a keg), and can accommodate as many bottles as necessary to allow you guys more room to store your cards and Unfortunately, I have to go against OBC tradition and insist on unopened, mint-condition bottles only. I sincerely hope that OBC members appreciate this sacrifice on my part, and that you will take advantage of my offer - preferably before New Year. Glasgow, Scotland SPONSORED LINKS card supply card display case card protector card holder ryan baseball card baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 18:29:07 -0600 From: "Greg \(yaz\)" Subject: Hardy's are on our side I wonder if the cards in the story are of real players. http://cgi.ebay.com/Hardy-Boys-117-Baseball-Card-Conspiracy-PB_W0QQitemZ8018363731QQcategoryZ279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Greg (yaz) ================= To: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:52:22 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Thanks from Doug Smith Doug called me last night. Sounds like he's doing fine though he's understandably anxious about his sentencing coming up next week. He wanted me to thank OBC for the Christy Mathewson wooden advertising display that he received in the mail (see pic). Thanks to all who chipped in. ================= To: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:56:43 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Secret Santa gift arrived Dang it! I have to wait 24 days to open this up. And there is no postmark or other identifying info to help me figure out who its from. -- Steve ================= Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:28:34 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Subject: Non-OBC Helmar collector In the event that someone would like this information (assuming I'm not the last one to figure it out), I've exchanged emails with a non-OBC Helmar colector - Bill Scott. HIs email address is putoutfire2003@yahoo.com, & he & a friend have a lot of dupes - and some wants. He only had one card I needed, but for all of you other Helmar collectors, feel free to drop him an email (in fact, once I mentioned OBC & the number of collectors of Helmar cards, he invited me to pass along his email address) - let's see if we can contribute to killing off someone else's set & do some damage to our own! ================= To: Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:36:03 -0500 From: "Joe Greco" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Paypal Coupons C11-giftguide Worked. Not It wasn't 10%. I got $0.40 off $12.47. The total for merchandise was $7.98. The Shipping was $4.49. So it made shipping less painful. Thanks BOB! -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:18 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Paypal Coupons The network54 board had a post about Paypal coupons which I've listed below. I tried the first one and it worked. Might help with your Christmas shopping! C1-Holiday2005 10% off up to $25.00 off C2-Holiday2005 $5 off any purchase over $50.00 C3-Holiday2005 $15 off any purchase over $100.00 C11-giftguide 10% off any amount Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.9/185 - Release Date: 11/28/2005 ================= Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:48:47 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, From: brockhattox@cs.com Subject: CD (Crazy Debbie) captured on film!! For a picture of CD and the report of our fishing trip to devastated Venice, LA, take a look at these links: http://www.rodnreel.com/mlccharters/index.asp?pg=photo_gallery&specific=63852 http://www.rodnreel.com/mlccharters/index.asp?pg=fishing_reports Fishing is a sport, too!!! Take care, ================= Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 06:06:03 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Cheap 1962 Canadian Post Mantle on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/Mickey-Mantle-5_W0QQitemZ8732255159QQcategoryZ60490QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It's got some tape and isn't fully described, $.99 opening bid. Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. ================= Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 13:53:29 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Help with a price Been awhile since I did this but what is a fair price for a 1928 Yuengling's common in f-g condition? Any help appreciated. ================= Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:26:01 -0800 (PST) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Bob Farrell Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Paypal Coupons - Thanks Bob A couple of the coupons worked. I saved 17 bucks. Thanks Bob. Joe Greco wrote: C11-giftguide Worked. Not It wasn't 10%. I got $0.40 off $12.47. The total for merchandise was $7.98. The Shipping was $4.49. So it made shipping less painful. Thanks BOB! -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Donaldson Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:18 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Paypal Coupons The network54 board had a post about Paypal coupons which I've listed below. I tried the first one and it worked. Might help with your Christmas shopping! C1-Holiday2005 10% off up to $25.00 off C2-Holiday2005 $5 off any purchase over $50.00 C3-Holiday2005 $15 off any purchase over $100.00 C11-giftguide 10% off any amount Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.9/185 - Release Date: 11/28/2005 SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Personals Skip the bars and set-ups and start using Yahoo! Personals for free Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ================= Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 01:36:39 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Very Sad News! As many of you may recal, my son Dustin has had serious health problems for some time. It is with deep sadnes that I inform my extended family in OBC that Dustins life came to an end late Wednesday night. As our only son he was a marvelous gift, giving us 24 plus years of joy for which we have deep gratitude. One of our greatest sources of joy was watching our gifted athelet playing and reffing hocky. Given his love for the game, we are requesting that inliue of flowers that those so inclined may make donations the the Dustin Zfold Scholarship fund to send underpriveledg choildren to hockey camps. Donations should be sent Hill Funeral Home S.saginaw, MI11723 co/o the Dzk scolorship fund. Earl E. and Phyllis Zold-Kilbourn ================= Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 06:11:02 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Box of 9-count sheets ready to be mailed Won't be sending it as my official OBC Santa, but if there's someone else who could a nice chunk of sheets, just let me know. They're already in the box and just need a destination! Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. ================= Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 09:13:15 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Very sad news To all of my extended family in OBC, Many of you are aware that my son Dustin has struggled with some health issues over the past several years. It is with a heavy and broken heart that I write to inform you that Dustin died late Wednesday night at the way to young age of 24. At 7 years old Dustin developed an interest in collecting sports cards and was therefore instrumental in re-igniting my passion for collecting and my subsequent membership into the family of OBC. Although Dustin excelled in and loved all sports, he was particularly fond of Hockey. In addition to his many accomplishments as a player, he was also a Certified Referee and enjoyed coaching younger kids many of whom knew him or of him from around the local hockey rinks and wanted to be #16. Given this interest, we have decided to create the Dustin Zold Kilbourn Memorial Scholarship Fund to send under privileged kids to Hockey Camps. At this point the details of the Trust Fund are yet to be finalized. In the interim, any contributions can be sent to Hill Funeral Home in c/o the DZK Scholarship fund at 11723 S. Saginaw St. Grand Blanc, MI 48439. The viewing and services will be on Tuesday at from 1 to 4 pm. I take great solace in knowing that although the miles will keep us apart, each of you will be with us in spirit. We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 11:21:06 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Subject: Another non-OBC Helmar collector with dupes I've made contact with another Helmar collector with a bunch of dupes (and in his words, "several" complete sets, if you want to go that route.) His name is Todd Feher; his email is tfeher@zoominternet.net, if anyone is interested in trying to arrange a swap. Tom Housley ================= To: "Ramblings" Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:23:09 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" Subject: Smithsonian Baseball Book - a good gift item I just finished reading "Smithsonian Baseball" which I mentioned finding a few weeks ago. TS O'Connell wrote a nice review of the book in last week's SCD. If you have family or friends who might be persuaded to get you something collectable related for Christmas and are not able to pick up '52Topps high numbers for you, you might want to mention this $30 book about the baseballcollections of 22 people. The last few pages have blurbs on each collector. I didn't see any OBC members mentioned but it was an interesting group. Ididn't realize the creator of Spawn action hero (whoever that is) owns all3 balls of Sosa's 66th, McGwire's 70th and Bonds' 73rd homeruns. The DeWitt family had a slight advantage in eventually owning the Cardinals and a number of doctors had the slight advantage of having plenty of money. Readingit is a little bit like going on one of those house walks through enormoushomes decorated to the hilt and then coming home and looking at your housewhich looked just fine before, but it was enjoyable to read a book about collecting baseball "stuff." George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 11:40:58 EST To: DirectorTH@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Another non-OBC Helmar collector with dupes tom: i have written todd as well, and he sent me the last card i needed without expecting anything in return. i hope to help him out when set 2 comes out next year. gm ================= Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 12:11:33 -0500 (EST) To: From: Subject: Looking for a Helmar hero Hi guys- After making swaps with the non-OBCers that Tom intrroduced us to, I am down to a single Helmar card to complete my set (I think!). If anyone has an extra Herb Pennock, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ================= To: "OBC" Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:11:00 -0500 From: "Larry Tipton" Subject: Announcement I am happy to announce that with an ebay purchase of a 1953 Topps card #244 Willie Mays, my 1953 Topps set is completed! After researching some of the Buy It Now, and On-Line Store options, I new this card was going to cost me plenty, and I am sort of ashamed to admit that my Auction Sniper max bid was $166. The card sold for $61. I guess I am still living in the early 90s, when I remember standing in Roger Neufeldts baseball card shop. $20 in my pocket, and having to decide if I wanted the 1958 or 1959 Mantle. It took 18 years, and I wanted to thank all my OBC friends who made it Have a blessed weekend! (Here is the link if you want to have a look. I think you have to push and click it) Gurus 1953 Topps Willie Mays ================= To: Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 16:09:32 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: New T205 set Ramble A little story to share about my recent T205 set addition to my wantlist. A few weeks ago I decided to do a little pre-Christmas shopping for myself since the wife informed me that I have already bought her gift and she loves it. I didn't ask what it was, but I knew it had to be great! Sooo, I devise a plan to pick up something for me too as it's only fair right? While searching the web and dealer stores, I ran into a guy that has a T205 Cobb for sale. It's a little higher than what I'm looking for and I decide to call and see if I can haggle a bit on the price. So I pick up the cell phone (free calls) and called Mike McCrary in Texas. We start talking cards and I come to find that he has a mostly complete set that he is breaking up. Wow, I though that would be nice to have, but would be way out of my price range right now. From his extensive list of cards, I decided to see if I could swing Cobb, Mathewson, Johnson and Young. I figure I'll buy them and resell them to turn a quick buck or two. Scans looked great and the prices were very good on those four cards. Some of the cards are in very nice shape for their age, the Tinker is EX at least, maybe Since I don't know much about the T205s, I decided to ask around OBC and see if this deal was as good as I thought it was. Thanks to Brian L, Joshua and Ken for the great info and help they provided me for about the next 3 - 5 days while I pondered this purchase. I had tons of questions and was concerned mainly about the authentication of the cards. During this time I found out that Mark is an OBC Certified Dealer and decided to get prices on all the cards to see if I could swing the entire lot and (again) resell them to turn a buck. Everyone needs more money at Christmas time and I thought this would be cake. The guys agreed that the prices were very good on the Big 4 and this continued as I received word back on the rest of the lot. This massive lot included 142 of the 208 cards in the set with some of the very tough variations and largest stars as well. We reached his desired amount to sell the cards as a lot and I decided that I just couldn't pass up the cards at this price. I made the purchase (on a Friday) and the cards shipped out the following Monday. That whole weekend I keep looking over the scans, trying to figure out how I'm going to start the selling process. Even before the cards arrived I was starting to get attached to them and was thinking I need to move them quickly before I get too attached. Well, that all changed the day they arrived and I actually held them in my hands. I started thinking, when would I ever get lucky enough to have this good of a start on such a nice batch of prewar cards I labored over this for a few days and decided that I would in fact keep the cards (for now) and chase the set. These cards are very nice to look at and I never thought I'd ever be chasing an old set such as this. With my Topps Run standing at just under 570 cards I decided I needed something to round out my collection. I look through this book at least 4 - 5 times a day and really do enjoy the old cards. It's interesting to read the bios and stats of the players back then. Well, since I've decided to keep the cards, I now have to look at the downside. Generally when a large purchase as this is made, there has to be some seperation with other items to make up for money spent. This is also the case in this story. I have decided to sell off my 52 and 53 parital sets to recoupe some funds on the purchase. I also have removed the 50's from my wantlists (for now) and will try to accomplish the 57, 60 - 67 sets to finish out that portion of my run. Those sets make up almost 80% of my entire run needs (309 cards) so they will be the highest priority for me right now. The 50's sets are actually pretty close to done now with only 51 cards needed to complete 57 - 59. 54, 55, 56 are done and only two cards are needed to finish 58. I'm not too keen about giving up my 52 and 53 sets, but something had to go and these made the most sense as they were the two farthest from completion This will also allow me to have a 54 - current run without pulling a set out of the middle somewhere. I've also picked up a few Caramel cards in the last couple weeks and have added those to my wantlist too. These early 1900's cards are pretty neat and I'm very excited to be able to add a few sets to my list, even if I might never complete them. :) Well, if you made it this far, thanks for the read ! And a special Thanks again to Brian, Ken and Josh for all the great advice throughout ! Happy Holiday's everybody, ================= To: "'Shawn Adkins'" , Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 14:40:34 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] New T205 set Ramble Personally, I'd like to be a fly on the wall when you thank your bride for her very generous present.... A little story to share about my recent T205 set addition to my A few weeks ago I decided to do a little pre-Christmas shopping for since the wife informed me that I have already bought her gift and she it. I didn't ask what it was, but I knew it had to be great! Sooo, I devise a plan to pick up something for me too as it's only fair right? While searching the web and dealer stores, I ran into a guy that has a Cobb for sale. It's a little higher than what I'm looking for and I to call and see if I can haggle a bit on the price. So I pick up the phone (free calls) and called Mike McCrary in Texas. We start talking cards and I come to find that he has a mostly complete that he is breaking up. Wow, I though that would be nice to have, but be way out of my price range right now. From his extensive list of cards, I decided to see if I could swing Cobb, Mathewson, Johnson and Young. I figure I'll buy them and resell them to turn a quick buck or two. Scans looked great and the prices were very good on those four cards. Some of cards are in very nice shape for their age, the Tinker is EX at least, Since I don't know much about the T205s, I decided to ask around OBC and if this deal was as good as I thought it was. Thanks to Brian L, Joshua Ken for the great info and help they provided me for about the next 3 - days while I pondered this purchase. I had tons of questions and was concerned mainly about the authentication of the cards. During this time I found out that Mark is an OBC Certified Dealer and decided to get prices all the cards to see if I could swing the entire lot and (again) resell to turn a buck. Everyone needs more money at Christmas time and I this would be cake. The guys agreed that the prices were very good on Big 4 and this continued as I received word back on the rest of the lot. This massive lot included 142 of the 208 cards in the set with some of very tough variations and largest stars as well. We reached his desired amount to sell the cards as a lot and I decided I just couldn't pass up the cards at this price. I made the purchase (on a Friday) and the cards shipped out the following Monday. That whole I keep looking over the scans, trying to figure out how I'm going to the selling process. Even before the cards arrived I was starting to attached to them and was thinking I need to move them quickly before I too attached. Well, that all changed the day they arrived and I held them in my hands. I started thinking, when would I ever get lucky enough to have this good of a start on such a nice batch of prewar cards I labored over this for a few days and decided that I would in fact keep cards (for now) and chase the set. These cards are very nice to look at I never thought I'd ever be chasing an old set such as this. With my Run standing at just under 570 cards I decided I needed something to out my collection. I look through this book at least 4 - 5 times a day really do enjoy the old cards. It's interesting to read the bios and of the players back then. Well, since I've decided to keep the cards, I now have to look at the downside. Generally when a large purchase as this is made, there has to some seperation with other items to make up for money spent. This is the case in this story. I have decided to sell off my 52 and 53 parital sets to recoupe some funds on the purchase. I also have removed the from my wantlists (for now) and will try to accomplish the 57, 60 - 67 to finish out that portion of my run. Those sets make up almost 80% of entire run needs (309 cards) so they will be the highest priority for me right now. The 50's sets are actually pretty close to done now with only 51 cards needed to complete 57 - 59. 54, 55, 56 are done and only two are needed to finish 58. I'm not too keen about giving up my 52 and 53 sets, but something had to go and these made the most sense as they were two farthest from completion This will also allow me to have a 54 - run without pulling a set out of the middle somewhere. I've also picked up a few Caramel cards in the last couple weeks and added those to my wantlist too. These early 1900's cards are pretty and I'm very excited to be able to add a few sets to my list, even if I might never complete them. :) Well, if you made it this far, thanks for the read ! And a special again to Brian, Ken and Josh for all the great advice throughout ! Happy Holiday's everybody, Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: ================= Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:50:47 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "jimbo777777" Subject: Helmars Ok, I'm hooked. And, I've conclusively proven, as if I hadn't before with the Exhibits, that I can never be trusted with a "type card". After seeing the Eppa Rixey gem from Don Rice, and seeing all the great posts, I've taken the dive. Although I do like potato chips, I'm also not famous for my patience. So, I won an ebay lot today with 80 Helmars included. 39 will be "hits to my list", and 41 will be dupes. Has anyone made a checklist yet, so I can do a want list? I love this game! ================= To: "'Grant'" , Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 17:06:37 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] New T205 set Ramble Ohh, I don't think I'll be doing that. I do all the bill paying and money handling in our household. :) You gotta love it ! Let me just change my email address, phone number and we'll be moving to a new house in a different town soon, so please don't try to contact her directly ! --John Doe |-----Original Message----- |From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com |[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant |Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 4:41 PM |To: 'Shawn Adkins'; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com |Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] New T205 set Ramble |Personally, I'd like to be a fly on the wall when you thank |your bride for her very generous present.... |A little story to share about my recent T205 set addition to |my wantlist. |A few weeks ago I decided to do a little pre-Christmas |shopping for myself since the wife informed me that I have |already bought her gift and she loves it. I didn't ask what |it was, but I knew it had to be great! Sooo, I devise a plan |to pick up something for me too as it's only fair right? While |searching the web and dealer stores, I ran into a guy that has |a T205 Cobb for sale. It's a little higher than what I'm |looking for and I decide to call and see if I can haggle a bit |on the price. So I pick up the cell phone (free calls) and |called Mike McCrary in Texas. |We start talking cards and I come to find that he has a mostly |complete set that he is breaking up. Wow, I though that would |be nice to have, but would be way out of my price range right |now. From his extensive list of cards, I decided to see if I |could swing Cobb, Mathewson, Johnson and Young. I figure I'll |buy them and resell them to turn a quick buck or two. Scans |looked great and the prices were very good on those four |cards. Some of the cards are in very nice shape for their |age, the Tinker is EX at least, maybe EXMT. |Since I don't know much about the T205s, I decided to ask |around OBC and see if this deal was as good as I thought it |was. Thanks to Brian L, Joshua and Ken for the great info and |help they provided me for about the next 3 - 5 days while I |pondered this purchase. I had tons of questions and was |concerned mainly about the authentication of the cards. |During this time I found out that Mark is an OBC Certified |Dealer and decided to get prices on all the cards to see if I |could swing the entire lot and (again) resell them to turn a |buck. Everyone needs more money at Christmas time and I |thought this would be cake. The guys agreed that the prices |were very good on the Big 4 and this continued as I received |word back on the rest of the lot. This massive lot included |142 of the 208 cards in the set with some of the very tough |variations and largest stars as well. |We reached his desired amount to sell the cards as a lot and I |decided that I just couldn't pass up the cards at this price. |I made the purchase (on a |Friday) and the cards shipped out the following Monday. That |whole weekend I keep looking over the scans, trying to figure |out how I'm going to start the selling process. Even before |the cards arrived I was starting to get attached to them and |was thinking I need to move them quickly before I get too |attached. Well, that all changed the day they arrived and I |actually held them in my hands. I started thinking, when |would I ever get lucky enough to have this good of a start on |such a nice batch of prewar cards again. |I labored over this for a few days and decided that I would in |fact keep the cards (for now) and chase the set. These cards |are very nice to look at and I never thought I'd ever be |chasing an old set such as this. With my Topps Run standing |at just under 570 cards I decided I needed something to round |out my collection. I look through this book at least 4 - 5 |times a day and really do enjoy the old cards. It's |interesting to read the bios and stats of the players back then. |Well, since I've decided to keep the cards, I now have to look |at the downside. Generally when a large purchase as this is |made, there has to be some seperation with other items to make |up for money spent. This is also the case in this story. I |have decided to sell off my 52 and 53 parital sets to recoupe |some funds on the purchase. I also have removed the 50's from |my wantlists (for now) and will try to accomplish the 57, 60 - |67 sets to finish out that portion of my run. Those sets make |up almost 80% of my entire run needs (309 cards) so they will |be the highest priority for me right now. The 50's sets are |actually pretty close to done now with only 51 cards needed to |complete 57 - 59. 54, 55, 56 are done and only two cards are |needed to finish 58. I'm not too keen about giving up my 52 |and 53 sets, but something had to go and these made the most |sense as they were the two farthest from completion This will |also allow me to have a 54 - current run without pulling a set |out of the middle somewhere. |I've also picked up a few Caramel cards in the last couple |weeks and have added those to my wantlist too. These early |1900's cards are pretty neat and I'm very excited to be able |to add a few sets to my list, even if I might never complete them. :) |Well, if you made it this far, thanks for the read ! And a |special Thanks again to Brian, Ken and Josh for all the great |advice throughout ! |Happy Holiday's everybody, |Yahoo! Groups Links |No virus found in this incoming message. |Checked by AVG Free Edition. |Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release |Date: 12/2/2005 |No virus found in this outgoing message. |Checked by AVG Free Edition. |Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release |Date: 12/2/2005 |------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor |Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! |your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/QBiolB/TM |Yahoo! Groups Links ================= Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 02:07:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bob D'Angelo" Subject: Vintage football available Hi gang, Just came into a nice batch of off-grade vintage football cards thanks to our good friend/dealer, John Morrison. If you go to my page, you will see I started some more football sets (sometimes I can't help myself). But I did get some doubles in my shipment. if you are collecting from any of these sets, give me a shout. FCFS. 1956 Topps -- 3 16 38 52 62 64 65 80 81 93 95 98 100 112 117 1959 Topps -- 92 159 1964 Philadelphia -- 33 1964 Topps -- 156 1966 Philadelphia -- 74 182 1966 Topps -- 46 124 129 1967 Philadelphia -- 4 1968 Topps -- 9 31 1969 Topps -- 4 5 18 30 38 42 47 52 83 85 90 95 106 112 131 132 143 178 180 182 185 186 187 213 221 233 240 244 246 247 Have at em. ================= To: Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 05:38:16 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Very Sad News! OBCers -- For some reason, I never received the message below until Brian sent it to me. I don't know if the server was offline or something, but I thought I'dpass it along and see what ideas the group had for helping out EEK. I know we all really feel horrible to hear this news. Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lindholme To: geno.wagner Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Very Sad News! I think NOW is the time to show the healing power of cardboard to our pal EEK. The donation to the Hockey Camp fund is also very worthy of consideration too... Let's discuss our next move. I motion for an early motion period in December so that we can come to a consensus. OBC Forever...this is EXACTLY what that means! ----- Original Message ----- From: Originaleek@webtv.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Very Sad News! As many of you may recal, my son Dustin has had serious health problems for some time. It is with deep sadnes that I inform my extended family in OBC that Dustins life came to an end late Wednesday night. As our only son he was a marvelous gift, giving us 24 plus years of joy for which we have deep gratitude. One of our greatest sources of joy was watching our gifted athelet playing and reffing hocky. Given his love for the game, we are requesting that inliue of flowers that those so inclined may make donations the the Dustin Zfold Scholarship fund to send underpriveledg choildren to hockey camps. Donations should be sent Hill Funeral Home S.saginaw, MI11723 co/o the Dzk scolorship fund. Earl E. and Phyllis Zold-Kilbourn YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 08:17:44 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: EEK's son OBCers -- For some reason, I never got EEK's first message or my forwarded one (although they both appear on the server). In case it has something to do with the subject line getting blocked or something, I'll try one more time. Please give it a read: As many of you may recal, my son Dustin has had serious health problems for some time. It is with deep sadnes that I inform my extended family in OBC that Dustins life came to an end late Wednesday night. As our only son he was a marvelous gift, giving us 24 plus years of joy for which we have deep gratitude. One of our greatest sources of joy was watching our gifted athelet playing and reffing hocky. Given his love for the game, we are requesting that inliue of flowers that those so inclined may make donations the the Dustin Zfold Scholarship fund to send underpriveledg choildren to hockey camps. Donations should be sent to Hill Funeral Home S.saginaw, MI11723 co/o the Dzk scolorship fund. Earl E. and Phyllis Zold-Kilbourn ================= Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:24:40 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: FT WASH (SORRY NOT SURE IF ITS GOING THROUGH) Hello all, The Day started for me at 4:30 am got showered and dressed and coffee then hit the road. Hit Grand Central at 6 am and met New Comer to OBC Tom Massimo, then Anthony Arbeeney came into view. Ant came Baring gifts in the Food Sence. We had Bagels, Candy Power bars, nutz fruit you name it we had it, then there was the cooler filled with Juices and waters, Ant That in itself was a Great thanx. Now to the ride over to FT wash, Usually its a semi long boring trip, but this time with the company of 2 great obcers (friends) the time flew, although we did make FT wash bt 8am FLEW . OK The show Wow the show was dam good, BUT for the first time i stuck to my game plan to finish 1 set and well try to finish another and bang out hit to other priority sets. and YES i did that. We Met up with George Altimose, Howard Morgan, Steve Rittenberg, Ken Morganti , Fuge, and Mat Heilman. We all had a great B/S'n around. After B/S',n it was time to get to those tables. I can finally say I finished my 2nd set while in OBC yesterday with the 69 Topps going to bed. The one thing I did notice was the price of 50's commons went up a bit. Last year I was able to get 57's for $0.50-$0.75 this year they were $1-$1.25 for beaters. the 54 bowman's were at most places $1.25-$$1.50 each also ok ok....but I did get a deal. I think I did my most damage to my 54 bowman yesterday. I got 50 hits, 40 of which I bought at Bill Hendersons King of Commons table and he wound up charging me $0.75 each SUCH A DEAL, I was very happy about that. I saw some Real nice cards there but held out on a lot because I needed to spend my $$ on My priority sets. Ok Now TO the After Party, We all went over to The Pizzeria and noshed on OK pizza and chatted and swapped for like 2 hours fun time It Seemed Ant And tom had a good time, But I can only speak for my self. NOW to the THANX part of the Ramble...... SUPER THANX go out to Ken Morganti, Matt Man, and Ant Arbeeney for PUTTING my 69 Topps set to res with the Last 3 cards I need Ken comes through with Earl Weaver, Ant Comes through with Denny Mclain, and Mat comes through with Tug Mcraw AWESOME THANX . Also thanx go to Tom For hitting my 73 High #S set, and a couple hits to my 71 topps set Tom Than Ant Arbeeny For Finishing off the set but also hitting my 56 topps with the Reds Team Card. Thanx ant Steve RIttenBerg For a bunch of 54 bowman's and 57 topps all in all like 30 hits to those 2 sets THANX A BUNCH Steve Oh wait I forgot to add in the AWESOME ultimate variation card ive ever gotten. Steve sends the 1961 Vida pinson with no picture or stats just the color of cardboard, and the name was written in I'm guessing some computer generated printing because well it was on the card, but oddly in pencil....hmmmmm still a variation...LOL thanx steve Thanx TO MAtt for hitting my 58 topps and also again with the Helping of the 69 set Ken well what can I say thanx For the WEAVER AWESOME MAN OK I think this is one of the longer rambles ive ever written I hope you all enjoy it, I'm sure ive left out a ton of details but oh well. there is only so much my brain can process. Thanx ALL and Ant and TOm I had a great time Take care and be safe Rob Gioia ================= Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:08:53 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: FT WASH THANX AND RAMBLE Hello all, The Day started for me at 4:30 am got showered and dressed and coffee then hit the road. Hit Grand Central at 6 am and met New Comer to OBC Tom Massimo, then Anthony Arbeeney came into view. Ant came Baring gifts in the Food Sence. We had Bagels, Candy Power bars, nutz fruit you name it we had it, then there was the cooler filled with Juices and waters, Ant That in itself was a Great thanx. Now to the ride over to FT wash, Usually its a semi long boring trip, but this time with the company of 2 great obcers (friends) the time flew, although we did make FT wash bt 8am FLEW . OK The show Wow the show was dam good, BUT for the first time i stuck to my game plan to finish 1 set and well try to finish another and bang out hit to other priority sets. and YES i did that. We Met up with George Altimose, Howard Morgan, Steve Rittenberg, Ken Morganti , Fuge, and Mat Heilman. We all had a great B/S'n around. After B/S',n it was time to get to those tables. I can finally say I finished my 2nd set while in OBC yesterday with the 69 Topps going to bed. The one thing I did notice was the price of 50's commons went up a bit. Last year I was able to get 57's for $0.50-$0.75 this year they were $1-$1.25 for beaters. the 54 bowman's were at most places $1.25-$$1.50 each also ok ok....but I did get a deal. I think I did my most damage to my 54 bowman yesterday. I got 50 hits, 40 of which I bought at Bill Hendersons King of Commons table and he wound up charging me $0.75 each SUCH A DEAL, I was very happy about that. I saw some Real nice cards there but held out on a lot because I needed to spend my $$ on My priority sets. Ok Now TO the After Party, We all went over to The Pizzeria and noshed on OK pizza and chatted and swapped for like 2 hours fun time It Seemed Ant And tom had a good time, But I can only speak for my self. NOW to the THANX part of the Ramble...... SUPER THANX go out to Ken Morganti, Matt Man, and Ant Arbeeney for PUTTING my 69 Topps set to res with the Last 3 cards I need Ken comes through with Earl Weaver, Ant Comes through with Denny Mclain, and Mat comes through with Tug Mcraw AWESOME THANX . Also thanx go to Tom For hitting my 73 High #S set, and a couple hits to my 71 topps set Tom Than Ant Arbeeny For Finishing off the set but also hitting my 56 topps with the Reds Team Card. Thanx ant Steve RIttenBerg For a bunch of 54 bowman's and 57 topps all in all like 30 hits to those 2 sets THANX A BUNCH Steve Oh wait I forgot to add in the AWESOME ultimate variation card ive ever gotten. Steve sends the 1961 Vida pinson with no picture or stats just the color of cardboard, and the name was written in I'm guessing some computer generated printing because well it was on the card, but oddly in pencil....hmmmmm still a variation...LOL thanx steve Thanx TO MAtt for hitting my 58 topps and also again with the Helping of the 69 set Ken well what can I say thanx For the WEAVER AWESOME MAN OK I think this is one of the longer rambles ive ever written I hope you all enjoy it, I'm sure ive left out a ton of details but oh well. there is only so much my brain can process. Thanx ALL and Ant and TOm I had a great time Take care and be safe Rob Gioia ================= To: "obc rambling" Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:41:10 -0500 From: "ant" Subject: ft washigton I forgot to mention that the $ I spent the the whole day I was away from the wife & kids cost me to make Eggs Benidect for them this mourning. Yes I made Hollandiase Sauce too. ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 09:18:16 -0800 From: "Dave Fallen" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ft washigton The Hollandaise Sauce reminds me of the fellow who went to the dentist around Christmas time, complaining of a corroded upper plate. The dentist asked if this person had a change in his diet recently. The patient said that the only change was that his wife learned how to make Hollandaise Sauce, and because they both love it they had it frequently. The dentist said "No wonder! Hollandaise Sauce has lemon in it and that is what is causing the damage. I'll make you a new upper plate out of chrome." The patient replied "Why chrome, doctor?" The dentist smiled and explained "Everyone knows, there's no plate like chrome for the Hollandaise!" -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: ant To: obc rambling Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ft washigton I forgot to mention that the $ I spent the the whole day I was away from the wife & kids cost me to make Eggs Benidect for them this mourning. Yes Imade Hollandiase Sauce too. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:22:13 EST To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Subject: Innies, outies, thanks, catching up Well boys, It's been a while, I guess the snow was telling me it's time to slow down and get back to the fun things-- like cardboard! The last few months have been pretty crappy... I lost an uncle to cancer (while he was trying to settle the estate of my great uncle who passed earlier this year). Some of the work fell in my lap. My 82 year old aunt took a fall in Florida and had to be operated on (Wasn't sure she was going to get thru, but that woman is a real battler), along with other assorted things that tend to make you wonder, I've finally sat down at my desk to give thanks to guys who have sent me stuff along the way. Even though the thanks are extremely late, those packages did wonders. They always seemed to arrive at the right day! I have literally hundreds of emails in my filing cabinet that I have not read yet, but will get to as time allows. In no particular order (some I may have thanked already, but you can never say that enough) John Leroux- nice attacks on the 1960 list- I think I am like under 20 on that one (next snow day, I'll try to sort that out) Gary Mandell- A huge hit to the embossed set- Clemente! Larry "the Gersh"- NICE mixture of cards that filled in holes on the Jets and Knicks quest Bob Donaldson- AwwwRight! a Piece of Bazooka!- Oh yeah and his auto OBC card and a 2-** Cubs team checklist- UNMARKED Terry Dietrick- Obviously wants me to get moving on the 67s with 7 great hits! Mark Talbot- (I still think his OBC/VRT card is one of the coolest and autographed) sends a pair of "Totally Tipton" 52Bs! Ray Luurs- One of the "Chicago Twins" also wants me to get that 67 set rolling with an 8-pack of NON-tiptons. Bob Reed- finds my sup list and performs some major damage on that one, I haven't added a "classic" card to my set in ages among other oddballs. Don Rice- A nice little brick of 1975 SSPC Mets. You just gotta love that set! Steve Manson of VCT found my list on the web and also made some great hits in the psychos, hopefully I can find his email and thank him properly. Can someone with dual citizenship in VCT pass along my thanks? On the OUTbound list- the ever patient Bob Bannon will have a package arriving at his door sometime this week. Once again, I can't thank you guys enough. You remember "the healing power of cardboard". There were many days you guys did just that. Sometimes life has to be put in perspective, tell you to slow down and watch for the things passing you by. I thank all of you for helping me to slow down some. My want lists are a mess, so dont go by them. I have a stack of cards I need to put up for waviers to find new homes. Maybe it will really snow and I'll get that together! Thanks again guys, for patience, understanding, and mostly your ================= To: "obc rambling" , Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 10:04:28 -0800 From: "Brian Lindholme" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ft washigton Humor like that can leave a comedian with egg on his face! OBC Forever ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Fallen To: obc rambling ; ant Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ft washigton The Hollandaise Sauce reminds me of the fellow who went to the dentist around Christmas time, complaining of a corroded upper plate. The dentist asked if this person had a change in his diet recently. The patient said that the only change was that his wife learned how to make Hollandaise Sauce, and because they both love it they had it frequently. The dentist said "Nowonder! Hollandaise Sauce has lemon in it and that is what is causing thedamage. I'll make you a new upper plate out of chrome." The patient replied "Why chrome, doctor?" The dentist smiled and explained "Everyone knows, there's no plate like chrome for the Hollandaise!" -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: ant To: obc rambling Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:41 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ft washigton I forgot to mention that the $ I spent the the whole day I was away from the wife & kids cost me to make Eggs Benidect for them this mourning. YesI made Hollandiase Sauce too. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:05:03 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: Helmar Wants and Availables Here is my Helmar wantlist and what I have available. Chapman (scratched) En Route: Moe Berg Joe Jeannette Frank Baker Kaoru Betto Chick Gandil Hugh Jennings Herb Pennock Stanley Ketchel Sam McVea Battling Nelson ================= Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:52:48 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Glk@aol.com Subject: Fwd: BCW Winter Holiday Coupon Subject: BCW Winter Holiday Coupon To: glk@aol.com From: "sales@bcwsupplies.com" Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:00:19 -0600 Winter Holiday Coupon Act now! Time is almost up to use your 7.5% Off Discout Coupon for online orders. Time is limited so redeem your coupon before Dec. 15th, 2005 by using the promotional code when prompted during the check out process. After inputting the promotional code your order total will be instantly adjusted. Coupon Code: SAVE (must purchase at least $75 in products) Feel free to email this coupon to anyone you think will take advantage of it. There are no limits to how many times you can use the coupon before it expires! Free Shipping In addition to your coupon code you many also choose to utilize the new Super Saver Shipping option on our website. For more information on Free Shipping please Click Here! Featured Products Gaming Supplies Memorabilia Displays Comic Accessories If you have any questions please send us an email or give us a call at (800)433-4229. To visit our website Click Here! Thank You, BCW Customer Support BCW Supplies http://sub.ezinedirector.net/?fa=r&id=28087847&c=964708477 ================= To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:50:43 -0800 From: "Geordie Calvert" Subject: PGA Q-School I forgot to pass on until just now that my nephew, Matt Hansen, is at the PGA qualification school down in Winter Garden, FL (Crooked Cat and Panther Lakes courses). He has played five of the six days and is currently tied for 22nd place. The top 30 places, plus ties, earn their PGA tour card. Matt has played the last two years on the Canadian tour after playing at the University of the Pacific during college. Right now 22nd place means -11, which is the current cut line. Those at -10 are tied for 31st. Depending on how he finishes tomorrow, he should end up with one of two things: his PGA card, or at the very least a full exemption on the Nationwide Tour. The top 50 places in Q-School earn that exemption. Matt earned a partial exemption on the Nationwide during the most recent round of qualification. Tomorrow's action can be seen on The Golf Channel. It's also on right now,showing replays of today's action. He had a brief appearance on yesterday's broadcast, showing him putting for a birdie on the 18th. His mom was understandably thrilled to see her baby boy on TV! Oh, one other update: my father-in-law has already qualified for next year's World Series of Poker. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:56:08 +0000 From: obcbobd@comcast.net Subject: OBC Directory From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Helmar Wants and Availables Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 00:06:42 +0000 Here is my Helmar wantlist and what I have available. Chapman (scratched) En Route: Moe Berg Joe Jeannette Frank Baker Kaoru Betto Chick Gandil Hugh Jennings Herb Pennock Stanley Ketchel Sam McVea Battling Nelson ================= To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:04:36 -0800 From: "Geordie Calvert" Subject: School's out! Quick update - my nephew Matt Hansen has qualified for the PGA tour, shooting -1 today to finish -12 for the six-day tournament. He's currently tied for 16th. Looks like the cut number is going to be -11, possibly (but not likely) ================= To: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:35:17 -0600 From: "Shawn Adkins" Subject: Kit Young Coupons Got the new Kit Young Holiday Sale insert today which has 26 various coupons on the front cover. 20% off 67 Red Sox/Pirates Stickers on page 23. It says coupon must be included with order. If anyone is wanting something from Kit, please let me know and I'll send you the corresponding coupon. They all expire 1-10-06 and some reference the 2005 Holiday Sale catalog sent a week or two ago. It's an oversized foldout, but I'll try and get it scanned later this evening if there is any interest. Merry Christmas, ================= To: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:13:00 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Bad news about Doug Smith http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/13334565.htm ================= To: Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 00:42:28 +0000 From: hoot-owl@comcast.net Subject: 10% off I have had two decent transactions with California Sports Cards. I asked him for a discount and this was his reply: Hi Peter. Thanks for your order. On your next order, please take 10% off by typing in 5531766 in the redeem coupon area. Thanks again and please let all OBC members know about the coupon for 10% off. Thanks again. Your cards were shipped out on Monday. ================= To: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:22:42 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Fund.....IMPORTANT!!!!!!!! As you are all aware by now, Earl and Phyllis Kilbourn lost their only son, Dustin, just the other day. Earl and Phyllis, our thoughts are with you at this tragic time of your lives. Okay gang, here=92s the scoop- it=92s an =93in-house auction,=94 meaning a card goes up for auction from within OBC, and stays within OBC after it is sold. The =93seller=94 is basically donating the card, and the =93buyer=94 is actually donating what the item sells for directly to Dustin=92s Scholarship Fund. Unlike Evilbay, the =93seller=94 takes care of shipping costs. Yes, the seller takes a beating, not only loses a card, but has to pay to ship it too! The =93buyer=94 not only gets cardboard they probably always wanted, but also an opportunity to donate to a very worthwhile cause at the same time. (It=92s a lot like a typical shrewd Rainsley investment=85.everyone makes money but YOU!) Here=92s how it works: Starting Thursday morning, I=92ll put up a card for auction, along with a description, and a scan, if I can. That will open the gates for others to put up a card, or a lot, or whatever you might have, on the Ramblings server. All are welcome to put up something for auction. And you are even MORE welcome to put in a nice, fat, juicy bid. Let=92s have some fun with our descriptions, Dustin would probably like that. All auctions to close Monday night at 9:00 EST, 6:00 PST. To bid: Send your bid to me in a private email=85=85and please bid with your hearts, not a price guide, and bid high! All proceeds are going directly to the Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Fund. Bid amounts will be kept secret, but as often as I can, I will send out a list of the items up for auction, along with the name of the person who is the high bidder, so you will know if you are winning or not. Keep track of what you bid, and if you see you are not the high bidder, go after it!!! The very LAST thing you should be looking for in this auction is a bargain. BID HIGHER!!!! Better yet, BID HIGHER THE FIRST TIME! To pay: At the close of the auction, I will contact both the =93seller=94 and the =93buyer.=94 The =93buyer=94 will be sending payment to Bob Donaldson, OBC Treasurer. Bob takes PayPal, checks, money orders, cash, and first-borns. The =93seller=94 will get an email from me advising whom they should send the card(s) to. (And if the =93seller=94 wants to know what it sold for, I=92ll tell them!) There=92s lots of time to be thinking about what you have that you may be able to contribute=85.please give it some thought. We=92ll get underway this Thursday morning=85. C=92mon OBC! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:31:41 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Okay, okay=85.I know=85..everyone wants to play=85..guys are ready to throw stuff up there right now, judging by the # of emails I have gotten so But it starts Thursday=85..and runs thru Monday evening=85.I=92ll let you Patience=85..(and I=92m really pleased with the response!)=85..but I won=92t have time to deal with all the bids and emails until Thursday=85.then I am at your service! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:37:34 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: Helmar Wants and Availables Here is my Helmar wantlist and what I have available. Anderson (2) Bell (2) Chapman (scratched) Felch (3) Schmelling (2) Sharkey (2) Frank Baker Kaoru Betto Chick Gandil Herb Pennock Sam McVea ================= Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 22:45:48 -0500 To: kgoetsch@gdinet.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: inadvertent hero alert! With only about 120 to go for the complete topps run, 1951-2005, Ken Goetsch just completed a set for me... my 1980 set! Ken sent me a bunch of upgrades for my 1980 set, and while I was putting them away, I notice that on row of my binder had 292, 293,294 and on the next row was 294, 295, 297!!! I had 2 of Chalie Spikes and no Dave Rader #296... but, low and behold, Ken had sent me a 296... which is funny because I would have had to have listed 296 as needing an upgrade... So how did I do that if 296 wasn't even in the book? Another "last card" mystery :) Thanks Ken! ================= To: , Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 00:04:20 -0500 From: "George" Subject: Great Time at Fort Washington The OBC guys really are a great group. After the show, we went to the secret clubhouse room upstairs at Mamma's Pizza, just down the street from the Conference Center. This place is impossible to find, unless you have perfect instructions from a member. Following (or during) the pizza and sodas, everyone broke out their dupes boxes. Ken Morganti and Steve Rittenberg gave out autographed cards of themselves, which are now featured parts of my collection. (Steve, interestingly, is exactly the same height and weight as Hack Wilson in his prime. I know this because Steve's height and weight are given on his card.) Although I have been collecting cards since 1952, I learned a few new approaches at this gathering. Ken Morganti collects T205's, but only with Polar Bear backs. The remarkable Steve Rittenberg collects everything, in multiples. Steve is presently putting together 9 (NINE) sets of 1975 Topps. This makes pefect sense, because the plastic album pages contain 9 pockets on each page. Why didn't I think of that? Steve's wantlist is about 100 pages long, and printed in microscopic print. This is because it includes not only cards for HIS collection, but also every card needed by anyone he has ever met. It includes cards that are so obscure that I thought no one would ever collect them...........like 1888 W.S. Kimball butterfly cards, with the Latin names of the butterflies. Would you like to trade a Pyrameis Tammeamea for a Platysamia Cecropia? But I am grateful to Steve and his mammoth list, because it includes some of my cards, and Steve presented me with a very nice T37 Turkey Red automobile card...........thanks, It was a pleasure to meet everyone there, and a good time was had by all. ================= Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:26:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "larrygersh" Subject: Re: Great Time at Fort Washington "It includes cards that are so obscure that I thought no one would ever collect them...........like 1888 W.S. Kimball butterfly cards, with the Latin names of the butterflies. Would you like to trade a Pyrameis Tammeamea for a Platysamia Cecropia? " Only an OBC geek like me would see thru your attempt to trade a common small butterfly for a HOF large moth:-) LOL ================= To: Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:27:37 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Great Time at Fort Washington Usually I don't weigh in on these HOF debates but I think the inclusion of Platysamia Cecropia is pure nepotism. The BVC (Butterfly Veterans Committee) was headed by his cousin Platysamia gloveri though he went by the name "P. gloveri". I'm sick and tired of every member of the genus Platysamia saying "I'm just as beautiful and distinctive as Platysamia gloveri so I should be in the HOF too!" Bill James wrote a similar book about baseball players, called "Whatever Happened to the Baseball Hall of Fame?" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684800888/ref=pd_sim_b_1/103-6266099-9115048?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=283155 ----- Original Message ----- From: larrygersh To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Great Time at Fort Washington "It includes cards that are so obscure that I thought no one would ever collect them...........like 1888 W.S. Kimball butterfly cards, with the Latin names of the butterflies. Would you like to trade a Pyrameis Tammeamea for a Platysamia Cecropia? " Only an OBC geek like me would see thru your attempt to trade a common small butterfly for a HOF large moth:-) LOL SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "'Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)'" , Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:37:40 -0500 From: Scott Earle Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Great Time at Fort Washington All I have to say on this subject is..WHY DON"T THEY SHOW ANY LOVE TO THE SQUIRRELS ??????????..... At least they made it to mascot status! http://www.mascotsupfront.com/mascotPortf/squirrelB.htm --Scott 'Squirrel' Earle- www.SquirrelsCards.net From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rittenberg (Earthlink) Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:28 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Great Time at Fort Washington Usually I don't weigh in on these HOF debates but I think the inclusion of Platysamia Cecropia is pure nepotism. The BVC (Butterfly Veterans Committee) was headed by his cousin Platysamia gloveri though he went by the name "P. gloveri". I'm sick and tired of every member of the genus Platysamia saying "I'm just as beautiful and distinctive as Platysamia gloveri so I should be in the HOF too!" Bill James wrote a similar book about baseball players, called "Whatever Happened to the Baseball Hall of Fame?" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684800888/ref=pd_sim_b_1/103-6266099-91150 &v=glance&n=283155 ----- Original Message ----- From: larrygersh To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:26 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Great Time at Fort Washington "It includes cards that are so obscure that I thought no one would ever collect them...........like 1888 W.S. Kimball butterfly cards, with the Latin names of the butterflies. Would you like to trade a Pyrameis Tammeamea for a Platysamia Cecropia? " Only an OBC geek like me would see thru your attempt to trade a common small butterfly for a HOF large moth:-) LOL SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:23:35 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: Ft. Washington Report Hi all, Whew! I finally got a chance to sit down and type for a few minutes after running around all weekend. It started off on Thursday night with an exciting night of work, which I will spare everyone the details. Took a short nap and packed up the car with some cards and a change of clothes and headed to PA. I left just after noon and made it to Joe Greco's house to stop in and say hi at about 5:30. From there, I headed to the show with a couple hours left to try to refrain from spending a fortune. I think I ended up getting two 1963 cards - a Fleer Yaz that was an upgrade for the last really tiptonesque card in that binder. (If anyone wants the old one, give me a shout). The other was a Topps Oliva #228 that I only got because it was $3 - funny how I couldn't find it for less than $15 when I actually needed it though! Met up with Steve, who said I had just missed Howard for the 194th consecutive time at the show (but this time for a change, he'd be back tomorrow). Steve and I were joined by dealer Randy Kniffin at the traditional chinese dinner. Headed back to Joe's after dinner for a little card swapping, but by this time I was exhausted. Got up early the next morning and after some breakfast, headed to the show with Steve. During the course of the day, I bumped into Mattman, Fuge, Howard, George Altemose, Rob Gioia, who brought two sidekicks with him - Anthony Arbeeny and newcomer Tom Massimo, both of whom I met for the first time. I even ran into OBC friendly dealer Kurt Tourdot, who had flown in from Minnesota to do some buying. I stopped briefly for lunch around 1 o'clock at the OBC commandeered table, but spent most of the time walking around the show looking for cards on my list (which I didn't bring because of printer trouble just before I left, but more so because it's just about committed to memory - at least the ones that are highest priority). I did see one binder full of T205's that were all sorted by backs, including a couple pages of the coveted Polar Bear backs. Unfortunately for me, they were fairly nice and all priced at about $200 each... or about ten times more than I think is even a bit too much to pay for a common. So, after combing through the tables for the better part of six hours, I purchased a grand total of ONE card... a T205 Fred Clarke with most of a Polar Bear back. The kicker is, after checking my list, it turns out I already had it! I'm immediately donating it to the upcoming auction. The best card I found though, was one I only held onto for a couple minutes. I spent some time looking for the last 4 cards on Rob Gioia's 1969 Topps list. I spotted him in the lunch area and asked him for an update on how the set was coming along - when he replied that he was down to just the Earl Weaver, I plunked one down on the table in front of him killing the set... it was a good feeling to finish off at least one set, even if it wasn't one on my list. After the show was the highlight of the weekend for me - the swap session at the pizza place. As soon as I settled in, Matt Heilenman handed me a bunch of football checklists from my lists - crossing off more cards in ten seconds than I managed to do in ten hours. THANKS MATT!! It was great to get together with everyone as usual. I also raided a couple dupes boxes for football cards - most notably Fuge's and Steve's - to start up my most recent additions to the list. I haven't sorted through them yet and I still have to add whatever cards are lurking in my own dupes box, so the updated lists won't be ready for a couple days. But those of you who have been itching to send me cards and want an easier list to hit than my 48-49 Leaf set, now's your chance! I am adding all four Fleer(60-63), all four Philly(64-67), and five Topps sets (1959, 1963, 1964, 1966 and 1967) to the list. i'm starting most of these sets with zero cards, so pretty much anything goes! After the swap, Steve and I headed to Joe's, where I briefly helped decorate their tree and took a quick nap. Just after midnight, I made the drive home. I have season tickets for the Patriots and don't like to miss games (since I can never be sure I'll get any money back for the ticket). I managed to stay just ahead of the snow, although it wasn't expected to be very heavy and arrived home in the morning around 6. Upon arriving home, I learned that the two guys I share tickets with wouldn't be attending the game with me. So, I had to make plans to take the $10 train ride to the game instead of driving in by myself and paying $20-$35 to park. After watching a Pats victory over the lowly Jets, I took the train back home. The train doesn't leave until 30 minutes after the end of the game - and although it's probably about the same as sitting in traffic for a half hour, I was still anxious to get home. You see, I had made plans with Terry Dietrick to host him and his son for the night as they attended a doctor's appointment in Boston the next morning. I had said I'd probably be home around 8:30, but that was if I was riding along with the two buddies who had backed out. Anyway, I got home at a little after 9 to find Terry and his son Adam waiting for me in their car. Due to some earlier navigational problems experienced by the Dietricks however, I wasn't as late as I thought I was going to be... they only had to wait about ten minutes or so... I guess that kinda worked out just like I planned :-) We chatted and looked at some of my collection for a little while, but we were all pretty tired, so we headed to bed soon after. The next morning, I drove them to a small diner, where I was treated to breakfast (THANKS TERRY!) and then I dropped Terry and his son off at the train station with instructions on how to get home and where to find a decent card shop in the city. Terry managed to locate one shop (Bay State Coin) and also walked by another just a few doors down. That one was crowded, so he decided to try a little later, but had to pass because it was almost noon and time was running late...or so he thought. The three and a half hours of testing his son was supposed to go through turned into almost eight... and in the end there was nothing that could be done medically - disappointing is a huge understatement I'm sure. They arrived back at my door just a few minutes before I was supposed to leave for my bowling league. They began their long trip home right away (hopefully before the snow that was suppsed to hit further south got too bad) and I left right behind them. I still have about a dozen overdue thanks to give out, but I'll wait until tomorrow for that - and this note is quite long enough already. Thanks to everyone who shared in my weekend and thanks to everyone who's been persistent enough to read this far. TAYL, Ken M ================= To: "obc rambling" Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 22:14:59 -0500 From: "ant" Subject: Helmar Quest Hello All, I was wondering on a strategy to start the set? I was thinking of buying 1 cs of each 3 chips & 1 cs of poppcorn. Would this do the trick? please advise ================= To: "ant" , Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:24:55 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Helmar Quest I think twenty cases of BEER should do the trick. What you don't drink, you could cook with, and, well, after you get that much suds into you, you wont care about the card set. ----- Original Message ----- From: ant To: obc rambling Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 8:14 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Helmar Quest Hello All, I was wondering on a strategy to start the set? I was thinking of buying 1 cs of each 3 chips & 1 cs of poppcorn. Would this do the trick? please advise SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:26:38 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Anybody having Ramblings problems? OBCers -- Is anyone else not getting all the Ramblings emails? I went to the Yahoo site to look at the message board and it seems that lately I'm not getting about 1/3 of them for some reason. For instance, here's the last seven emails (the first five about Ft. Washighton, the last two about Helmars): Altemos, Gersch, Rittenberg, Earle, Morganti, Ant, and Walker Of those, I only only received four. I didn't get Rittenberg, Morganti, or Am I the only one experiencing this? Take Care, Geno ================= To: , Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 06:35:43 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Yahoo Server Problems?? OBCers -- I think there are some problems with the servers at the moment. It seems like many of the messages are not going out. I don't think it's just me, because other guys have missed messages as well. I sent out a note on Ramblings to highlight it, but I didn't get the email back through the server. I'm only getting about 2/3 of the emails right now I think. Of course, the quandry is "how do you tell people the email isn't working if the email isn't working?" I have decided to send this out to all the servers hoping that some will get through to alert folks to the potential problem. Again, it could just be me, but I don't think it is. If you haven't seen the emails about EEK and Grant's upcoming auction, please log onto Yahoo and check out the news. I'd hate for anybody to miss out on another OBC project to benefit one of our own! Sorry for the inconvenience of multiple messages, but I think it needs a bit of troubleshooting! Take Care, Geno ================= To: Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:56:45 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Fund.....IMPORTANT!!!!!!!! Sending this out for a second time in case some missed it due to server problems=85=85.auction starts tomorrow!! As you are all aware by now, Earl and Phyllis Kilbourn lost their only son, Dustin, just the other day. Earl and Phyllis, our thoughts are with you at this tragic time of your lives. Okay gang, here=92s the scoop- it=92s an =93in-house auction,=94 meaning a card goes up for auction from within OBC, and stays within OBC after it is sold. The =93seller=94 is basically donating the card, and the =93buyer=94 is actually donating what the item sells for directly to Dustin=92s Scholarship Fund. Unlike Evilbay, the =93seller=94 takes care of shipping costs. Yes, the seller takes a beating, not only loses a card, but has to pay to ship it too! The =93buyer=94 not only gets cardboard they probably always wanted, but also an opportunity to donate to a very worthwhile cause at the same time. (It=92s a lot like a typical shrewd Rainsley investment=85.everyone makes money but YOU!) Here=92s how it works: Starting Thursday morning, I=92ll put up a card for auction, along with a description, and a scan, if I can. That will open the gates for others to put up a card, or a lot, or whatever you might have, on the Ramblings server. All are welcome to put up something for auction. And you are even MORE welcome to put in a nice, fat, juicy bid. Let=92s have some fun with our descriptions, Dustin would probably like that. All auctions to close Monday night at 9:00 EST, 6:00 PST. To bid: Send your bid to me in a private email=85=85and please bid with your hearts, not a price guide, and bid high! All proceeds are going directly to the Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Fund. Bid amounts will be kept secret, but as often as I can, I will send out a list of the items up for auction, along with the name of the person who is the high bidder, so you will know if you are winning or not. Keep track of what you bid, and if you see you are not the high bidder, go after it!!! The very LAST thing you should be looking for in this auction is a bargain. BID HIGHER!!!! Better yet, BID HIGHER THE FIRST TIME! To pay: At the close of the auction, I will contact both the =93seller=94 and the =93buyer.=94 The =93buyer=94 will be sending payment to Bob Donaldson, OBC Treasurer. Bob takes PayPal, checks, money orders, cash, and first-borns. The =93seller=94 will get an email from me advising whom they should send the card(s) to. (And if the =93seller=94 wants to know what it sold for, I=92ll tell them!) There=92s lots of time to be thinking about what you have that you may be able to contribute=85.please give it some thought. We=92ll get underway this Thursday morning=85. C=92mon OBC! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings"OBC-Ramblings" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the HYPERLINK "http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: ================= To: "geno.wagner" , Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:12:20 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: [SPAM] [OBC-Ramblings] Yahoo Server Problems?? "Ramble on." Geno, other than deep snow and some temperatures that are SO flippin' cold I can't stop shivering, there doesn't seem to be a problem in Golden. ----- Original Message ----- From: geno.wagner To: OBC-Announcements@yahoogroups.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com ; OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com ; OBC-AC@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:35 PM Subject: [SPAM] [OBC-Ramblings] Yahoo Server Problems?? OBCers -- I think there are some problems with the servers at the moment. It seems like many of the messages are not going out. I don't think it's just me, because other guys have missed messages as well. I sent out a note on Ramblings to highlight it, but I didn't get the email back through the server. I'm only getting about 2/3 of the emails right now I think. Of course, the quandry is "how do you tell people the email isn't working if the email isn't working?" I have decided to send this out to all the servers hoping that some will get through to alert folks to the potential problem. Again, it could just be me, but I don't think it is. If you haven't seen the emails about EEK and Grant's upcoming auction, please log onto Yahoo and check out the news. I'd hate for anybody to miss out on another OBC project to benefit one of our own! Sorry for the inconvenience of multiple messages, but I think it needs a bit of troubleshooting! Take Care, Geno Yahoo! Groups Links ================= To: "'Grant'" , Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:43:50 -0500 From: Scott Earle Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Fund.....IMPORTANT!!!!!!!! Grant & gang -- I spoke with Helmar brewing president Charles Mandel the other day about our auction and he has donated a few items to the auction..I don't know if Grant wants to keep them as a surprise or not or how he's revealing what's going up for auction. But I just wanted to let you know as I just talked to Charles. :-) --Scott 'Squirrel' Earle- www.SquirrelsCards.net From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:57 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Sending this out for a second time in case some missed it due to server problems...auction starts tomorrow!! As you are all aware by now, Earl and Phyllis Kilbourn lost their only son, Dustin, just the other day. Earl and Phyllis, our thoughts are with you at this tragic time of your lives. Okay gang, here's the scoop- it's an "in-house auction," meaning a card goes up for auction from within OBC, and stays within OBC after it is sold. The "seller" is basically donating the card, and the "buyer" is actually donating what the item sells for directly to Dustin's Scholarship Fund. Unlike Evilbay, the "seller" takes care of shipping costs. Yes, the seller takes a beating, not only loses a card, but has to pay to ship it too! The "buyer" not only gets cardboard they probably always wanted, but also an opportunity to donate to a very worthwhile cause at the same time. (It's a lot like a typical shrewd Rainsley investment..everyone makes money but YOU!) Here's how it works: Starting Thursday morning, I'll put up a card for auction, along with a description, and a scan, if I can. That will open the gates for others to put up a card, or a lot, or whatever you might have, on the Ramblings server. All are welcome to put up something for auction. And you are even MORE welcome to put in a nice, fat, juicy bid. Let's have some fun with our descriptions, Dustin would probably like that. All auctions to close Monday night at 9:00 EST, 6:00 PST. To bid: Send your bid to me in a private email..and please bid with your hearts, not a price guide, and bid high! All proceeds are going directly to the Dustin Zold Kilbourn Scholarship Fund. Bid amounts will be kept secret, but as often as I can, I will send out a list of the items up for auction, along with the name of the person who is the high bidder, so you will know if you are winning or not. Keep track of what you bid, and if you see you are not the high bidder, go after it!!! The very LAST thing you should be looking for in this auction is a bargain. BID HIGHER!!!! Better yet, BID HIGHER THE FIRST TIME! To pay: At the close of the auction, I will contact both the "seller" and the "buyer." The "buyer" will be sending payment to Bob Donaldson, OBC Treasurer. Bob takes PayPal, checks, money orders, cash, and first-borns. The "seller" will get an email from me advising whom they should send the card(s) to. (And if the "seller" wants to know what it sold for, I'll tell There's lots of time to be thinking about what you have that you may be able to contribute..please give it some thought. We'll get underway this Thursday C'mon OBC! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005 SPONSORED LINKS card supply card display case card protector card holder ryan baseball card baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.11/191 - Release Date: 12/2/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 12/6/2005 ================= Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 18:57:29 EST To: wguthrie@axint.net, geno.wagner@ntlworld.com, From: LUURSCJG@aol.com Subject: Re: [SPAM] [OBC-Ramblings] Yahoo Server Problems?? I dont find any problem either except the staement that its cold in Colorado It was 9 degrees today that isnt cold :-) ================= To: , Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:27:25 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: Yahoo Colorado Problems?? Considering we ski AND play golf pretty much all year around here, in MY neighborhood of Colorado, nine is indeed a bit on the kewl side. Skiing and playing golf on the same day? Now that's kewl. Nine degrees? That's just cold. ----- Original Message ----- From: LUURSCJG@aol.com To: wguthrie@axint.net ; geno.wagner@ntlworld.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] [OBC-Ramblings] Yahoo Server Problems?? I dont find any problem either except the staement that its cold in Colorado It was 9 degrees today that isnt cold :-) ================= To: "obc Ramblings" Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:31:24 -0700 From: "Walker" Subject: Re: btw - - - a.k.a. Cold in Colorado Winter Park Host BuzzOh, by the way, here is a note I received from my bossregarding the morning temperature in Fraser, Colorado, earlier today. ----- Original Message ----- From: Volunteer Host To: Walker Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:48 AM Subject: RE: VH1 Hi Walker, Brrrrrr. . . it was NEGATIVE 28 at the Fraser Bank thermometer this morning! See the red comments below. . . . Mara Kohler Mountain Host Coordinator Winter Park Resort It's Mary Jane's 30th birthday party! Enjoy weekend pancake breakfasts, ride the Super Gauge 6-pack and hang out in the new Club Car. Wrap up a great holiday vacation package - check deals and book on-line; www.winterparkresort.com or call 800.979.0332. 'Tis the season for giving Two Mountain Gift Cards, good for just about anything at Winter Park, Copper Mountain and Breeze Max stores. Call 970.726.1564 to order yours today. ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 00:04:57 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Subject: Birthday thanks out to... Bob Neill...longtime trading buddy and friend sends along a three nice '53 Topps...all needed and all perfect. Thanks a bunch Bob.... Mark Talbot also sends a birthday greeting which included a trimmed '55 bowman and a '71 Topps Coin Tom Seaver. Also included was Mark's OBC card, a welcome addition. Thanks Mark. Take care all, ================= To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 00:22:34 -0500 From: "Ed Schott" Subject: DZK Fund - Auction Well it actually is Thursday morning so I may be the 1st to put up my donation We have a not too Tiptonesque James Alvin Palmer. The year is 1966 and Big Jim is in a pitchers pose. (who knew that years later he would be posing -sans uniform : ) The Topps Company has numbered this slab of pulp with a 126 on the reverse. Some who are more knowledgeable than I tell me its a rookie card ( whateverthat means ) This 40 year old piece of history comes with 4 wonderfully rounded corners and a few almost invisible dents or crease marks. Upon faraway inspection the buyer may also notice some ink markings on Mr. Palmers right uniform sleeve which was loosely inscribed with the lettering M I N O R L E AG U E S (bluegrade school ink of course) Shall we start bidding lets say at 2000 pennies ? have fun chaps EDDIE in Ball Tee More ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:10:30 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com Subject: DZK Auction - Lot 2 - 1910 Obak Group Available is a group of 4 1910 T212 Obaks. The fronts are nice, one or two minor creases, but pretty nice images. The backs have SEVERE damage. Included Bonner Spokane NWL Hitt Vernon PCL Lively Oakland PCL Perrine Portland PCL Suggested minimum bid is $12. ================= Date: 8 Dec 2005 15:03:08 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: DZK auction - Bamalot#1 - R305 Tattoo Orbit Up for grabs is a decent copy of R305 Riggs Stephenson. Light pencil marks in top border and back damage to upper left of card. Otherwise, about GD condition Still a nice card of a HOFer. ================= Date: 8 Dec 2005 15:11:33 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: DZK auction - Bamalot#2 - 1941 Goudey Up for brabs is a 1941 Goudey of Jim Tobin #30. Card has nice front with some creasing but has had all 4 corners clipped. A filler I had until a recent upgrade. ================= Date: 8 Dec 2005 15:14:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: DZK auction - Bamalot#3 - Batter Up #174 Up fro grabs is a Batter Up high number (#174) of Wes Ferrell. Die cut back is missing but otherwise a very nice card. ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:40:23 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Kilbourn Auction Well, apparently we are underway! Please remember to send all of your bids to me, not to Ramblings=85.this applies to all listings=85. I will try to acknowledge listings, but won=92t likely have time to reply to bids. I=92ll be sending out a spreadsheet when I can listing the high bidders. I would like to see all the listings done by Sunday at 9:00 PM EST. Bids accepted up until Monday night at 9:00 EST. Up for bid: 1955 Bowman Willie Mays. I=92m proud of likely having all around the worst condition TV collection going, but this card is actually pretty good. Off center top-bottom, but all around pretty decent. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:43:59 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: Auction Items 100 1972 Topps different, including some world series cards *Condition alert* these are in pretty good shape, so they would take serious work to satisfy those of you would like your cards with scuffs, writing, creases, and/or parts missing. Willard Chocolate: Vince of Varsity, grade: OBC Vince wasn't inclined to try our for basement, creating an opportunity for you to own this "Champion Runner" even if you can't afford baseball stars. However, you will probably be as perplexed as I am over what the heck is "Varsity" ? A school ? A town ? A province, territory, state, town or what ? -Ed Pike ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:00:50 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Kilbourn Auction Items this Is a partial set of 1976 Topps traded cards 19 cards in total Remember These cards are very special because not only are they great baseball cards they are works of art. Every New Uniform is Painted on the ball player I would think these oneday may be ad rare as a Van Gogh ok maybee not but they are works of ART..... the #s on these cards are All cards have T after it Rob Gioia ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:11:25 EST To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Subject: Kilbourn Auction (sorry if its goes through more than once) this Is a partial set of 1976 Topps traded cards 19 cards in total Remember These cards are very special because not only are they great baseball cards they are works of art. Every New Uniform is Painted on the ball player I would think these oneday may be ad rare as a Van Gogh ok maybee not but they are works of ART..... the #s on these cards are All cards have T after it Rob Gioia ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:09:25 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: Auction lot - 1971 OPC starter set This is a batch of 1971 OPCs, about 100 in number, that will start any set off right. It includes some high numbers, and even more importantly, the bright-yellow, mixed French and English backs. Practice your baseball in another language! Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:14:52 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin Kilbourn Auction Good response so far, by my count we have 9 offerings, and a solid flurry of bids. Had to make a snap decision=85if two bids come in with the same amount, the first one in with that bid stays high bidder. Maybe stagger your bids a little to avoid this=85instead of $20, make it $21 or I=92ll plan on sending out a spreadsheet tomorrow morning listing the lots, the sellers, and the high bidders=85..if you don=92t see a lot on there that you put up, and I somehow missed it, please drop me a line=85. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:30:03 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Don Rice Subject: Auction Lot: Hostess Baseball 50+ This auction lot consists of about 55 Hostess baseball cards from various years. This would make a nice little starter set for anyone who might be so inclined. Many of the cards are in about Ex condition as far as corners and creases (or lack thereof!) go. Trimming varies, but is in general no so bad (except for a few). Some have residual food oil stains. The lot consists of: 1975: 132 (stained) 1976: 67 78 98 106 124 126 133 (most from this year are trimmed a little tightly) 1977: 1 2 3 10 11(2) 12 13 21 47 49 53 56 71 91 122 123 129 132 133 134 135 139 142 143 144 (about half of the 77's however have light oil staining from long lost cupcakes). 1978: 23 24 65 95 96 100 101 102 106 107 108 1979: 1 3 5 43 45 46 49 50 107 108 Bid early, bid high, bid often! Don Don Rice ============================================== ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:37:00 -0500 From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" Subject: DZK Auction - Mantle Rookie!!! We have here a 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle!! Woohoo!! This card was generously donated this morning (over the phone) by Doug Smith. The card is in OBC condition and comes in a screwdown holder. It has been graded "ungradeable" by Beckett (and everyone else I showed it to at Fort Washington). The holder is guaranteed authentic. The card is guaranteed umm, paper. Starting bid is $50. Imagine -- a Mantle rookie for $50 !!! That's less than 1% of BV. You don't see too many of these around so bid now! Note to Ken M. --- I do not remember which way the stitching is facing onthe back of the card. ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:02:05 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: 1955 Topps #47 Hank Aaron The last one blows me away just a little bit! I suspect guys are still Timing is everything in life, I just got a call from Tiger Dave. I told him about this, and he is putting up a 1955 #47 Hank Aaron. He says it=92s in around G, (he tends to be a tough grader), very clean, no writing. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:14:04 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: Kilbourn Auction - 1943 MP & Co. Partial Set Up for grabs is =A8=F8 of the 1943 MP & Co. set. Condition is all over the map. The lot includes: M. Cooper Happy Bidding! Erik Greenwood ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:27:14 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin Kilbourn Auction Items listed for the auction=A1=A6=A1=A6so far=A1=A6..keep =A1=AEem coming! (4) 1912 Obaks=09 1941 Goudey Tobin=09 R305 Tattoo Orbit=09 100 1972 Topps=09 Batter Up Wes Ferrell=09 1966T Palmer=09 1955B Mays=09 Willard Chocolate Vince of Varsity=09 1976 Topps traded cards 19 cards=09 Approx 100 1971 OPC BB=09 55 Hostess baseball cards=09 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle=09 1955T #47 Hank Aaron=09 =A8=F8 of the 1943 MP & Co. set=09 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:46:52 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Just a reminder..... What you are putting up for auction goes to Ramblings=85=85 Your bids come here to me=85.. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:00:29 -0800 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Subject: Kilbourn Auction - Miscellaneous Items I am placing three separate lots up for bid: 1. A three-pack of, I believe, 1960 Jay Publishing Tigers - Lary, Yost and Bolling 2. Twenty assorted 1961-63 Post baseball cards - Ron Santo and Billy Martin are the biggest stars in the lot. 3. Fifty 1965 OPC baseball cards. Erik Greenwood ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:05:41 -0800 (PST) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Subject: More items for the auction Several items from the player collection: 1. 1970s RC Cola can of Steve Garvey, great condition 2. Game-used bat of David Segui (from his Mets days) 3. David Segui ballpoint-signed baseball 4. Game-used (and signed) bat of Jamie Quirk 5. Jamie Quirk ballpoint-signed baseball 6. Store model, little league Garvey bat 6a. another store model, little league Garvey bat 7. 1978 Topps complete set (boxed, conditions vary) 8. 1972 Topps complete set (binder, conditions vary) 9. 1975 Topps mini starter set (about 150, conditions vary) Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:15:49 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin's Auction New item on the board- ticket stub for the 1984 World Series, Game B, Detroit Tigers. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:22:58 -0000 From: "geno.wagner" Subject: Geno's paltry lot OBCers -- I must admit, since switching to my World Series type set, my dupes from pre-1970 have become sparse. I have sent out most of the type cards, but I still have a bunch of seventies cards - about 100 to be exact! So if you would like to bid on 100 1973-1977 Topps cards (mostly 1975), state your claim. There are a few HOFers in there, but you need to bid to find them! I also picked up an extra Beckett Alphabetical Checklist #7 - this is invaluable for the team collector. How else would you ever know that the only card of Hal Laycoe is a 1943 Parade Sportive?? So, I'll start the cards and book out at $1. Thanks for the great work, Grant!! Take Care, Geno ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:19:45 -0500 From: Scott Earle Subject: Auction Items ---for the closet drunk in you I know it's not much. But I'd like to donate a 4 pk of Helmar beer to the http://helmarbrewing.com/collectibles%201%20given%20away.htm The four pack will be the limited edition version of the beer (unpasturized), only 40 cases (6 - four packs to a case) were made. Which include the collectable Helmar crowns and collectable carrier Start the bidding @ $10 --Scott 'Squirrel' Earle- www.SquirrelsCards.net ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:34:49 -0500 From: Scott Earle Subject: HELMAR CORP sends in a donation I spoke with Helmar president/CEO Charles Mandel the other day and mentioned our auction. Charles thought it was great to see us rally behind one of our members like we are and would like to donate ---- A wooden promo sign, a set of Helmar collectable crowns (full set) and a set of Helmar collectable magnets (ALL FOR ONE BID) here is a link to the item http://www.helmarbrewing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD If you have any questions about this item please contact me - Biding will start off @ $1 HUGE THANKS TO HELMAR BREWING COMPANY !!!! ================= To: "'Grant'" , Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:41:29 -0500 From: Scott Earle Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Items ---for the closet drunk in you Can u put a master list of items up for bid? From: Grant [mailto:grains@dccnet.com] Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:33 PM To: 'Scott Earle' Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Items ---for the closet drunk in you Got it.thanks Scott! -----Original Message----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Earle Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:20 PM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction Items ---for the closet drunk in you Importance: High I know it's not much. But I'd like to donate a 4 pk of Helmar beer to the http://helmarbrewing.com/collectibles%201%20given%20away.htm The four pack will be the limited edition version of the beer (unpasturized), only 40 cases (6 - four packs to a case) were made. Which include the collectable Helmar crowns and collectable carrier Start the bidding @ $10 --Scott 'Squirrel' Earle- www.SquirrelsCards.net YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/7/2005 ================= Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:09:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Bob D'Angelo" Subject: Auction items for DZK benefit Hi gang, Here are some sports books for auction, from my spare book collection. Book value is listed, but I would suggest a starting bid at half book to be fair. Have at it. Landry's Boys, by Peter Golenbock, BV $24.95 Dooley: My 40 Years at Georgia, BV $24.95 Steel Dynasty, The Team That Changed the NFL. By Bill Chastain. BV The Holyfield Way, by James J. Thomas. BV $24.95 The Heisman: Great American Stories of the Men Who Won (paperback). BV $16.95 Game of My Life: Memorable Stories of Razorback Football. BV $24.95 Gene Keady: The Truth and Nothing But The Truth. BV $19.95 Smash Mouth. By Elvin Bethea. BV $24.95. Slick Watts' Takes From The Seattle SuperSonics. BV $19.95 Sidney Crosby: Taking the Game By Storm. By Gare Joyce. BV $18.95. Landon Turner's Tales from the 1980-81 Indiana Hoosiers. BV $19.95. Operation Yao Ming. By Brook Larmer. Bv $26.00 Echoes of Notre Dame Football, by John Heisler. BV $19.95. Notre Dame Where Have You Gone? By Eric Hansen. BV $19.95. Tales From the 1980 Georgia Bulldogs. By Vince Dooley and Blake Giles. BV $19.95. 100 Years of Pitt Basketball. By Sam Sciullo Jr. BV $24.95 San Francisco 49ers: Where Have You Gone. By Matt Maioco. BV $19.95. Mark May's Tales From the Washington Redskins. BV $19.95. Michigan: Where Have You Gone? By Jim Cnockaert. BV $24.95 Marv Levy: Where Else Would You Rather Be? BV $24.95 Al McGuire: The Colorful Warrior. By Roger Jaymes. BV $24.95. Tales From the 1969-1970 New York Knicks. By Bill Gutman. BV $19.95. North Carolina Tar Heels: Where Have You Gone (basketball). By Scott Fowler. BV $19.95. True Blue: A Tribute to Mike Krzysewski's Career at Duke. BV $24.95. Buckeye Madness. By Joe Menzer. BV $24.00 All Things Being Equal: The Autobiography of Lenny Moore. BV $24.95 Illustrated History of the New York Giants. By Richard Whittingham. BV $29.95. The '85 Bears: Still Chicago's Team (paperback; includes CD of Super Bowl Shuffle). BV $14.95. Legends of the Tennessee Vols. By Marvin West. BV $24.95. Tommy Davis' Tales From the Dodgers Dugout. BV $19.95 101 Reasons To Love The Red Sox. By David Green. BV $14.95 Tales From The Cleveland Cavaliers: The Rookie Season of LeBron James. By Roger Gordon. BV $19.95. Tales From the Browns Sideline. By Tony Grossi. BV $19.95. Tim Richmond: The Fast Life and Remarkable Times of NASCAR's Top Gun. By David Poole. BV $19.95. Ed Pinckney's Tales From the Villanova Hardwood. BV $19.95. Len Berman: Spanning The Globe. BV $25.95. ================= To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:15:06 -0500 From: Bob Saxton Subject: DZK auction item Here's a 1951 Bowman #186 Richie Ashburn. Decent card, with a crease just above the shirt letters. Remember to send bids to Grant. Keep warm! ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:36:03 -0500 From: "Mac Wubben" Subject: I am having server problems as well... After seeing Geno's note...and then wondering about the weird quietness regarding the auction...I checked the yahoo site. I am not getting many of the messages. Anybody have a lead on this? ================= Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:53:10 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: Kilborn Auction Offerings First Item: 1957 Topps Team cards unmarked... New York Yankees #510, and Pittsburg Pirates #528. Cards are in vg shape for OBC cards All corners are dinged, and there is some fading on the Pirates card. The Yankees card has maybe a tape removal tear in the top half of the red coloring on the front of the card. Second Item: A pair of 1960 cards #55 Bill Mazeroski, and #210 Harmon Killebrew.. Maz has dinged corners, and a wrinkle on the front of the card. Killebrew has minor writing on the bottom on the border, a tear next to it, Pin holes on the face, and creases on two corners... GREAT OBC CARD more coming tomorrow as we get buried in the snow John Leroux ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:23:49 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Latest Auction List I need a break. But what the Hell, send more bids=85 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:26:00 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ehpiii@aol.com Subject: a couple more auction items 1) Genuine Tipton hockey lot ! The prize of them all is a rare "blank front" 1972-3 Rogie Vachon. I have the highest confidence that this card is a genuine Tipton, with the front removed for the fun of it and not just to achieve a coveted "Tiption10" rating, but you know some people are unscrupulous when it comes to grading cards :). The grading company that rating it Tipton 10 refused to put it in a holder for feer that they would be associated with this gem, and left it in an unmarked envelop in the mail slot in the middle of the night. The remainder are three more moderate examples of Tiptonization, with 95% of the card left intact and visible - perhaps a Tipton 5. Tipton collectors can have high (low ?) expectations for this lot. 2) fifty 1977 Topps cards, which are of interest (to me anyway) because they are from the first year that I collected hockey cards and because of the little cartoons on the back 3)1982 Donruss Ripken rookie - centering is a little off, pretty good condition. Good thing Cal did a nice job improving on his .128 average in two dozen games in 1981. 4) two 1901 (1902 ?) Ogdon's track & field cards, Horgan and Miller, in pretty good shape and two 1940's (?) Kellogs cards, the javelin throw and the running broad jump in Tipton condition. ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:18:08 -0500 From: "Bob Donaldson" Subject: Kilborn Auction Offerings Lot 1)1953 Topps Archives 99% of the set has Mantle, Robinson etc. missing- #s 319 271 275 267 268 253 261 174 Lot 2) PreWar Beaters T206 L Tannehill Chi paper mising in coner , T206 ? missing name on bottom and 33 Goudey # 203 Warneke markings and eraser marks on front ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:41:48 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin's Auction Have had a couple of requests asking if pics were available=85I don=92t have any, I guess we are used to Evilbay=85..if you are listing anything, please indicate if a scan is available=85.potential bidder can email you requesting one=85.or just send one along as an attachment=85 Scan available of my =9155B Mays if required=85 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:08:38 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Subject: DZK Auction item - L@@K - RARE! - WOW! - 1 of 1 OK, so I've employed some of the little things that annoy me about eBay ;-) Up for bids is a T205 Fred Clarke. The card was in MINT condition, but that was in 1911 when it was issued. It boasts near perfect centering and four (very rounded) corners. If you're looking for creases, you'll get your money's worth with this beauty. As a special bonus, I'll throw in the pencil writing on the back at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE! A scan of this HALL OF FAMER can be seen at http://members.aol.com/cardclctor/t205.jpg and no, the scan on the right is not fuzzy, the card is. FREE SHIPPING! No reserve! Minimum bid is only a dollar! How can you go wrong? Remember to send your bids to Grant and your comments of amazement to me. Also, check out my other auctions (if I have any) Thanks for your incredibly overinflated bids, Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 20:20:26 -0500 To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com From: keithsummers@webtv.net Subject: DZK auction lot #1 Not counting Ollie Brown these are the only 4 coins I have left from 1971. I never plan to do a set so I'm throwing them in the auction. #34 Roy White/NYY (worst shape of the 4) #13 Bobby Bonds/SFG (small face scratches) #47 Matty Alou/Pirates (pretty decent) #24 Rod Carew/Twins/HOF (probably the best shape of the 4 & worth twice the other 3 coins combined) And as a very small bonus: 2005 OBC PTC #14 of myself autographed & hand serial #d :-) http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-12/1115466/12586734-picture.jpeg That's the best pic I can get indoors at night even with a flash, in 3 tries. It is a very weak offering compared to what some of you guys have thrown out. ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:27:38 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Daniel P Coen" Subject: A couple more items A couple of items I will add too: 1. 1970 Topps Gale Sayers in VG-EX condition. 2. 1978 Topps Paul Molitor/Alan Trammell RC in VG condition. We are doing quite well! I wish I were near my cards. I would have a few more. I may have more soon. -Dan Coen ================= Date: 9 Dec 2005 01:33:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Subject: More DZK auction Bamalots Lot #4 - 7 Nu-Card Hi-Lites with #'s 13, 14, 43, 48, 56, 59, and 64 Conditon runs from EX to NRMT. Lot #5 - 1947 Tip Top Bread card of Del Rice. Condition EX. Lot #6 - 1980 Fleer World Series unopened pack. Lot #7 - 1933 World Wide Gum Paul Waner (#25), Fr-Eng back. Border completely trimmed. Otherwise NRMT. Lot #8 - 1952 Topps, #'s 112, 201 and 204. Not bad for OBC condition. Lot #9 - 1953 BC #'s 2 and 20. GD condition. ================= Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 20:25:46 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Auction: '33, '51, '62 baseball Here are 3 lots for the auction... Please bid early and often! 1 - 1962 Don Drysdale AS #392 couple creases, but a pretty good looking card overal. free plastic semi-rigid holder! 2 - 1933 Goudey Lot of 2 #178 warner and #96 Rudlin both are good looking from the front, but back damage obscures some of the text on the back of each 3 - 1951 Topps Team Card Senators (Dated version) major verticle fold, but otherwise, no missing paper, or writing. It look fine in the binder Go OBC ================= Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:23:08 -0500 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sean McGowan Subject: Auction: Jerry Grote Autograph Card Sorry, I forgot about these in my last post.... Sean's lots #4 - 2005 topps certified autograph Jerry Grote. The picture on the card is late '60's early '70's in his Mets uni. The card is a little shiny on the front, but the autographs is clear a big. The back has his complete major league stats... I didn't know he played for the colt-45's... didn't think he was that old. #5 - see #4 :) I have 2 of these cards (don't ask) and both are in nice clamp down holders with Topps seal on it so you know it is authentic. All uv kidding aside, if you are a Grote/Mets fan, these are pretty nice looking. As an Oriole fan, I'm surprised that they didn't combust when I first touched them.... must be the holder :) ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:30:37 -0500 (EST) To: From: Subject: AUCTION: Hard to find cards (literally) Hey all- Since everyone is dealing from their strong suits, I will try to do the same. These cards are incredibly hard to find (mainly because they are so small that I keep losing them). Seriously, for some reason these oddballs get scooped up on ebay for ridiculous money (especially per pound of paper). In this lot is 6 cards from the 1950 R423 set. These are a bit smaller than a postage stamp and were given as prizes in gum machines. The cards up for bid are: Carrasquel, Newhouser, Woodling, Westrom, Stanky, and Yost. In case anyone cares besides me, they are all orange backs. ================= To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 02:25:17 +0000 From: hoot-owl@comcast.net Subject: DZK auction lots hoot-owl#1--Ten different 1970 Fleer World Series cards--those with the blue backs. These are probably VG--card numbers 7, 16, 20, 21, 46, 53, 55, 58, 59, 65. Or if you list them by years--1910, 1919, 1923, 1924, 1949, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, and 1968. hoot-owl#2--Topps hockey assortment-- 1973-74--all EX--8, 11, 14, 29, 32, 46, 62, 65, 70 (Perreault), 77, 84, 87 (H. Richard), 95, 126, 137, 175 1974-75--48, 109, 148 1975-76--68, 88, 141, 234, 253, 270, 274, 299 I will see what I can dig up for hoot-owl#3 peter mead ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:37:54 -0500 (EST) To: From: Subject: AUCTION: Aaron and Bumbry-together at last Okay, so what do Henry Aaron and Al Bumbry have in common. Well, they are both in the beginning of the alphabet. So that is good enough of a reason to lump them together. Up for bid is a 1969 Hank Aaron #100, intact but creased and dinged. Great picture of concentration on the Home Run champ's face. Along for the ride is a nice 1978 Al Bumbry, autographed by Al in person about 10 minutes after he yelled at me for not covering second base from the SS position on a pick-off attempt this summer. Of course, as the baserunner slid into second, I thought "why isn't the SS covering" and then I realize I was the SS. I guess there is a reason I usually play CF. Al's signature is in great shape, and it comes with an authenticity email from me (okay, this is that email). Both can be yours, if the price is Now time to catch up and start bidding on some of these great lots. ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:37:59 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com Subject: Kilbourn auction--- Special offer from TopGolf Content-Language: en Like a Mint 52 Mantle, there are a few in the group that have experienced it, others that have seen it, and others that only have heard the stories about it. But now, everyone in the group can have one. No, not the 52 Mantle. But the recipe to TopGolf=E2=99s legendary rib sauce. After a 10 year run there will no longer be the annual Vegas eVent. Not toworry , though, you have one chance to experience the sauce for yourself without worrying about getting in line before Ken Morganti. Unless, of course, you invite Ken over for ribs. Alas, like the 52 Mantle, the recipe does not come cheap. The price is a minimum $50 donation to the Kilbourn auction. Keep in mind the minimum is $50, please feel free to donate more. The person who donates the most will also receive an addendum to the recipe which discusses modification to the recipe that have been tried, both successful and a few not so successful. To participate, send me your reply on how much you will donate and send the money to Bob Donaldson. At the end of the auction the recipe will be sent out, in plenty of time for your Christmas ribs. ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 18:58:22 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: Dustin's Auction Update Okay you guys, I have to take some time off=85.if you can, please wait until tomorrow afternoon to start throwing stuff at me again, whether it=92s listings or bids=85..I have some commitments in the morning. I=92d also like to sleep tonight. You guys are incredible! And my eyes are going I have attached the latest update=85..peruse it=85.bid on it=85..tomorrow=85. Thanks guys, Grant No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: ================= To: Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 22:17:53 -0500 From: "George" Subject: Auction: 8 HOF'ers + African Wild Ass 1972 Jim Palmer (270): short corner (does not affect stats) 1956 Ernie Banks (15): some creases (do not affect his eyes) 1973 Willie Mays (305): VG-Ex 1961 Warren Spahn (200): very light creases 1972 Harmon Killebrew In Action (52): Ex 1973 Hank Aaron (100): a few creases (do not affect height and weight on 1973 Carlton Fisk (rookie card) (79): creases (mainly on Mike Garman and Cecil Cooper) 1974 Hank Aaron (Home Run King) (1): very light creases (do not affect picture of crown) 1909 African Wild Ass (Hassan Cork Tip Cigarettes): some creases (but nice See scan attached. George Altemose ================= To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 03:07:50 +0000 From: hoot-owl@comcast.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK auction lots hoot-owl# 3---three separate publications-one lot--1988 2nd edition Boston Red Sox Magazine. Burks and Greenwell on the cover. Game vs. Indians. 1990 1st edition Boston Red Sox Magazine. Pedro and Reardon on cover. Game vs. Yanks. And last--a 1996 Yanks vs. O's ALCS Program from Jeter's first series (124 pages). -------------- Original message -------------- From: hoot-owl@comcast.net hoot-owl#1--Ten different 1970 Fleer World Series cards--those with the blue backs. These are probably VG--card numbers 7, 16, 20, 21, 46, 53, 55, 58, 59, 65. Or if you list them by years--1910, 1919, 1923, 1924, 1949, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, and 1968. hoot-owl#2--Topps hockey assortment-- 1973-74--all EX--8, 11, 14, 29, 32, 46, 62, 65, 70 (Perreault), 77, 84, 87 (H. Richard), 95, 126, 137, 175 1974-75--48, 109, 148 1975-76--68, 88, 141, 234, 253, 270, 274, 299 I will see what I can dig up for hoot-owl#3 peter mead SPONSORED LINKS Baseball card supply Baseball card display case Baseball card protector Baseball card holder Nolan ryan baseball card Topps baseball cards YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:36:16 -0500 To: grains@dccnet.com (Grant), OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: RE: Dustin OBC Family Members, I have been sitting here for several minutes starring at the cursor on my screen trying to figure out what to say and how to say it. The one thing I do know is that I will probably use more words then necessary. I am not literally economic as many of you already know. This is the day my wife and I have dreaded most since our son died last week. There would be no more planning to be done, decisions to be made, or people to contact. No more photos, jerseys & trophies to display and then box up. The daughters, grandchildren, siblings and other family members would have gone back to their own homes and lives without their beloved brother, uncle, nephew or cousin. It would be just Phyl, myself, two dogs & a cat amid flower arrangements and cards of sympathy and condolences. Both of us knowing that it would take some form of miracle to get us through the day. So last night as we both pretended to be asleep I asked God to give us something to momentarily distract us from the emptiness within. THANK YOU OBC for for being God's instrument of grace. THANK YOU for all of the new & saved e-mails that I was at last able to absorb strength from and not just read. THANK YOU for the gift basket that provided some semblance of breakfast to go along with my coffee. Hey, coffee-man, you might want to take note that Harry and David's Dark Chocolate Moose Munch Confection goes great with decaf. THANK YOU for the night orioles and early risers who started out the DZK auction with a loud and emphatic bang. THANK YOU for the second British Co Call readout on my phone this week as Grant calls to inform me that a 52 Mantle was just put up by Doug who puts aside his own pain to respond to my family's. At some point I will send out more individualized thanks to all, but for now please know that I am humbled and deeply touched by the kindness that is OBC. THANK YOU for some smiles and even a laugh or two & for a respite from the heart ache. We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 22:41:00 -0800 (PST) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Daniel P Coen" Subject: I'm moving! Hey all, Just to update you on my movements. I am moving from Salem, Oregon to Seattle, Washington. However, I have not found an official place to live yet (know of any good apartments?), so all mail can be sent to: Dan Coen 410 First St. Steilacoom, WA 98388 Seasons greetings! ================= Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:17:20 EST To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: trufan999@aol.com Subject: More Auction Items.. Auction 3: Hoyt Wilhelm cards looking just like he would today, faded, and lots of creases. The Bowman 1954 # 57 and 1955 #1 are joined together for this OBC special. Auction 4: 26 cards from the Topps 1974 set, miraculous common lot that begs for warmth and love from the dupe box. If you need I can provide numbers. Auction 5: 1962 Green Tint lot of 4 cards... #147,152,161 and 171 Auction 6: 1960 Bob Gibson #73 This card might even get a grade of 4-5 on the front, the back though has a paper tear from the removal of tape running down the card. Auction 7: LOT of 134 Topps 1976 cards... Well, none of them are duplicated, and 4 of them are from the Traded set. John Leroux ================= To: Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 06:11:21 -0800 From: "Grant" Subject: DZK Auction Update On very short notice (yesterday) I found out I have to attend the office this morning, and won=92t be back until early afternoon, so I am asking for a temporary hold until then so I can keep up=85.I=92ll let you know when I=92m back. This will be only my third trip to the big city since I =93retired=94, and I=92m sure I=92ll hate this one as much as I did the first We are almost at $1500.00 in pledges so far=85. Have had several questions about why bids are secret- first, it=92s not your basic Evilbay auction where we try to grab stuff as cheap as we can=85.as I said earlier, these bids should be coming from the heart, not the price guide. Also, some are making very generous bids, and for their own reasons, may wish to keep that to themselves. However, if the OBCAC thinks publishing the high bids is a good idea, I=92ll go by their wishes=85..Geno and AC=85please let me know=85. Let you know when I am back=85thanks gang=85. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/195 - Release Date: ================= Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:46:52 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Don Rice Subject: AUCTION: Things go better with Coke.... Ever wonder what drives Mike Rich's passion for Coke caps? Well, here's your chance to find out, while at the same time contributing to a good cause. Up for bid are several Coke cap lots.
Lot #1: 1965 Regional NFL All-Star Coke caps (partial set, 24 of 34 includes C39 C40(Unitas) C41 C42 C44 C46 C47 C49 C50 C51 C53 C54 C56 C57 C58 C59(Nitschke) C61 C62(Deacon Jones) C63(Olsen) C65 C66 C67 C69 C70. All caps are used, and vary from Good to Excellent condition. As is typical for these caps, the back sides show the brunt of wear, with scratches and perhaps a touch of light rust.
Lot #2: 1964 Boston Patriots Coke caps: 9 different caps from the team set. These are used but nevertheless in quite nice condition with less than usual scratches on the back side.
Lot #3: 1964 NFL All Star Coke caps lot: 11 different all-stars caps, in lower end to middlin' used condition, highlighted by HOFers Unitas, Tittle, Olsen, Davis, and Rosie Brown.
Lot #4: 1967 American League All-Star Coke caps lot: six different all-stars, but no HOFers, in average used condition. Includes Scott, Horton, Charles, Pepitone, Elston Howard, and Nash.
The attached picture shows the lots in order, 1-2-3-4, from top to bottom. Sorry about the glare.
Hope Mike and I aren't the only fanatics with interest in these oddballs..... so bid..... now! :-) 
--
Don Rice

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:32:18 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: a  arbeeny 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] AUCTION:



Hello All,




I would like to offer up 1 each 1977 first series (blue) & 2 second series (red) Star Wars sets in exmt condition & up as 1 each lot. I think the starting should be $20. May the force be with you.


Anthony Arbeeny


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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:14:06 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net

We keep what we give away!

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:15:59 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: Doug

Could someone send me the link to the article on Doug's sentencing. I
seem to have lost it.

We keep what we give away!

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To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:30:52 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Doug

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/13334565.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Doug

Could someone send me the link to the article on Doug's sentencing. I
seem to have lost it.

We keep what we give away!

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To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:41:08 -0800
From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" 
Subject: Kilbourn Auction - Miscellaneous Items #2

I am placing four separate lots up for bid:

1.	Twenty assorted St. Louis Cardinal B&W Postcards from the 1970's -
there is a Warren Spahn and a couple of Ted Simmons in the lot.

2.	Fifty three 1976 OPC Baseball cards

3.	A T29 Animals starter set of seven cards

4.	For you type collectors - a lot from my player collection including:

1.	Don Zimmer (55 Doubleheader, 62 Post, 91 Topps Desert Shield, Topps
2.	Oscar Gamble (73-75 Postcard, Wiz Yankees of the 70's, 75 Hostess)
3.	Sam McDowell (67 Topps Venezuelan, 70 OPC (#72), 70 MLB Stamp)

Erik Greenwood

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To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:06:19 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Scans of 1952 Topps Mantle up for auction

Attached are the scans of the 1952 Topps Mantle that Doug Smith has donatedto
the auction.   I'm sorry about the quality of the scan.   The corners are
much sharper than the scan shows.   Also, that crease you see is from the
scanner.  Must be a scratch on the glass or something.   The back is a sort
of dingy yellow-green.  I re-scanned but couldn't figure out how to improve

Please remember that the card does come inside a penny sleeve and a screw down
so this baby will not be damaged during shipping!

Note to Ken M:  The stitches look like this   <-<-<-<-<

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:10:42 -0500
To: srittenberg66@earthlink.net (Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\))
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scans of 1952 Topps Mantle up for auction

Thanks Steve. That is a true Tipton that any OBCer would be proud to

We keep what we give away!

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To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:24:27 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Important clarification -  Mantle Rookie in DZK Auction

Hi all.

I asked Grant this morning about the bidding for the Mantle rookie that Doug
donated.  After hearing about some frenzied bidding, let me repeat the description
of the card with some boldface added.

"We have here a 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle!!   Woohoo!!   This card was generously
donated this morning (over the phone) by Doug Smith.   The card is
in OBC condition and comes in a screwdown holder.   It has been graded "ungradeable"
by Beckett (and everyone else I showed it to at Fort Washington).
The holder is guaranteed authentic.   The card is guaranteed umm, paper."

I will repeat: the card could not be authenticated by me when I showed it to
dealers at Fort Washington and when I showed it to on-site grading services.
They told me if I paid my money to have it authenticated, they'd refuse.
It is my opinion that you are probably bidding on a FAKE.   Take that for
what its worth.  Doug took a flyer that he could get a real Mantle at aridiculous
price on eBay and asked me to take it to Fort Washington to have
it checked out.   I took it but I did not find anyone who'd say it this is
the real thing.

I spoke with Grant about the situation.   He recommended (and I agree) thatwe
cancel all existing bids on this lot and re-open the bidding.   I am sorry
if anyone feels deceived.  It was not intentional on my part (or on Doug's
part).   Doug told me the card would eventually get sent out to an OBCer.
I thought we could turn double the impact of his generosity by putting the
card into this auction.  Perhaps the best course would have been to return
the card to Doug and let him decide what to do with it but we'll leave it
in the auction for now.

Please remember you are bidding an ungraded card and no guarantee can be made
about its authenticity.

1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle.  Dubious authenticity.  Minimum bid $5.

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:06:17 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Chris Stufflestreet 
Subject: More auction "Stuff"

I have three things to add to the EEK auction.

The first two are copies of my booklet, personally
singed by its author.

The third is a 1966 Topps Sandy Koufax card
(#100)...it's in one piece but it resembles a road map
of the LA Exrpessway system with its creases.  I'd
been holding on to it for a special occasion, but I
think this definitely qualifies.

So Grant...since you're Canadian I have to spell it
out...Auction #1 and 2 are copis of my book...auction
#3 is the Koufax.

Take care,

I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards.  To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html

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To: 
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 20:00:36 +0000
From: hoot-owl@comcast.net
Subject: cheap ebay Bench rookie

Anybody need one of these?  Buy it now at $11.00 paper loss on front.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1968-TOPPS-JOHNNY-BENCH-247-RC-bK-125-00-POOR_W0QQitemZ8732178289QQcategoryZ60492QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:46:23 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: JEdward@aol.com
Subject: DZK auction

Here are three lots that might be of interest to a few people...

Lot 1: I went through my 1965 Topps dups and pulled the best condition  cards
which include #433 John Bateman, #437  Chico Cardenas.  These two cards have
four nice pointy corners nice gloss  and decent centering.  They both have a
inconspicuous small stamped  name "ZANIN" neatly stamped on the back.  #443 CL,
unmarked with some fraying on the corners. #518 Ken Rowe, off  centered but
otherwise NM.

Lot 2: 1965 Topps Embossed #34 Jack Baldschun and #60 Chuck Hinton.  A
couple big names there hey:-)  Anyway, they're VG+ and would fill a couple  empty
slots in your binder.

Lot 3:  1979 Topps lot of 8 cards with stars.  These cards  average EX-EXM.
20   Joe Morgan
100 Tom Seaver
107 Jesus Alou
118 Bud Harrelson
200 Johnny Bench
321 Gaylord Perry
340 Jim Palmer
665 Lou Brock

OBC, it's an  attitude

http://hometown.aol.com/jedward/myhomepage/index.html

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:09:01 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: brockhattox@cs.com
Subject: Dustin Kilbourn Auction offering

I am offering an unheard of lot of cards for OBC!!!
All of these cards are Near Mint, or very close to it.
If anyone would like to upgrade some of their sets, so that they have at
least one "fresh from the pack" quality card,  you ought to bid on this lot!
The cards are:
1961 Topps #17 checklist
1961 Topps #21 Versailes RC
1963 Topps #39 Angels team card
1963 Topps #43 Stengel/Woodling
1963 Topps #150 Podres
1964 Topps #109 Staub all-star rookie
1966 Topps # 131 Angels Team Card
1966 Topps #267 Sparma
Take care,

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:14:40 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: a  arbeeny 
Subject: Helmar card check list





Hello All,


I said I would never start it & never kept the lists. Then I go to the Ft. Washington show & see them.Can some one send me the list. Also if anyone needs any cards I just may have it since it will take alot of dupes to complete this set as I have been told.


Anthony Arbeeny


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Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:17:39 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "xtrjmx" 
Subject: Another DZK Auction Special...

Hi all... I want to give someone else the opportunity to work on my
1934-36 Diamond Star set, as I haven't been able to do it any justice.
I need to keep three catchers for Ben's collection, but the other
seven are available as a lot. Below are the cards, along with a link
to a scan of their front and back:

#34 -- Stan Hack
Front: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Hack,%20front.jpg
Back: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Hack,%20back.jpg

#42 -- Jimmy Dykes
Front: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Dykes,%20front.jpg
Back: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Dykes,%20back.jpg

#45 -- Jo Jo White
Front: http://members.cox.net/jimnjennie/Diamond%20Stars/White,%
Back: http://members.cox.net/jimnjennie/Diamond%20Stars/White,%

#71 -- Ossie Bluege
Front: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Bluege,%
Back: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Bluege,%20back.jpg

#72 -- Tony Piet
Front: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Piet,%20front.jpg
Back: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Piet,%20back.jpg

#82 -- Johnny Babich
Front: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Babich,%
Back: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Babich,%20back.jpg

#93 -- Alvin Crowder
Front: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Crowder,%
Back: http://members.cox.net/xtrjmx/Diamond%20Stars/Crowder,%20back.jpg

Enjoy and happy bidding!!

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Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:46:40 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: jdelott@aol.com
Subject: DZK Auction

I'm on my way out, but wanted to add a lot for the auction before I left.  It's TV time.  Not today's Hi-def, but rather, two classic G/VG 1955 Bowman's.  Numbers 114 and 177, Janowicz and Groth respectively, both intensely staring at something.  Who was that photographer?

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:57:53 -0500 (EST)
To: 
From: 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Paypal Coupons

Hey guys-

I just picked up some shiny boxes for the kids for Christmas. Can someone
tell me how to use these coupons? I don't see anyplace to enter a coupon
code when I try to send money. Thanks,

> Hi,
> The network54 board had a post about Paypal coupons which I've listed
> below.  I tried the first one and it worked.  Might help with your
> Christmas shopping!
> C1-Holiday2005 10% off up to $25.00 off
> C2-Holiday2005 $5 off any purchase over $50.00
> C3-Holiday2005 $15 off any purchase over $100.00
> C11-giftguide 10% off any amount
> Thanks
> Bob
> Yahoo! Groups Links

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Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 23:47:56 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "jimbo777777" 
Subject: Hemar's - Available and Needed

Got my lot of Helmars in from ebay today.  Here are the dupes that I
have available:

Baker, Biddle, Chapman, Cobbin, Cuyler, Dalager, Dewhurst, Donovan,
Evers, Gandil, Gragg, Hill, Huggins, Jones, Kawakami, Lida, McVea,
Nelson, Rixey, Stearns, Walker(Toledo), Washington, Youngs.

Does anybody know if Walker of Toledo is Moses or Percy?

I have multiples of some, so don't be shy.

Here is my want list:

BASEBALL, I need: Walter Ball, Benton Harbor-Barnstorming Team, Moe
Berg, Sherwood Brewer, Mordecai Brown, Ray Caldwell,  Jimmie
Crutchfield, Leon Daniels, Eddie Deal, Tom Dewhirst-Sic, Martin
Dihigo, Happy Felsch, Elmer Flick, Sadayoshi Fujimoto, Goto-Japanese
League Player, Dave Harrison, Joe Hauser, Joe Jackson-Chicago,Hugh
Jennings, Tetsuharu Kawakami, Hugh McAleer, John McGraw, Jiro
Noguchi, Ted "Double Duty" Radcliffe, Billy Rogell, Kawakami-Chiba-
Aota-Noguchi, John Tucker, Moses Walker (Toledo?), Percy Walker
(Toledo?), Buck Weaver.

BOXING, I need: Jimmy Adamick, Primo Carnera, Jack Dempsy, Harry
Grebe, Stanley Ketchel, Darnell Knox, Bob Sage, Max Schmelling.

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To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:10:35 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: I'm back....and an auction lot for the DZK Auction

And thanks for mostly holding off while I was called away=85.still got a
little bit of catch-up to do.

By way of atonement for my unplanned absence, I offer up the following=85.

1961 Topps Baseball Stamp Album. This baby is a one-owner. I can tell by
the carefully inked in name on the cover=85..Grant Rainsley. Most of the
pages are even intact=85.most=85.The album has quite a few stamps stuck in
place, including names like Brooks Robinson, Kubek, Banks, Drysdale,
Matthews, Callison!, McCovey, 2 Kalines, Klu, and many others.
Definitely short of a set. Some stamps are brown, some are green. I
actually even remember sending away for this puppy. I can=92t remember
what I did yesterday, but this is fairly fresh in my mind.

The best part about this auction is twofold- definite covenance, what
with the original 10 year old=92s name on the cover. The other best part
is=85are you ready???? There is NO MAXIMUM BID! That=92s right, you can bid
as HIGH AS YOU LIKE!

Heading to update the spreadsheet now=85.please make life easy on me=85..

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:30:19 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: a  arbeeny 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hemar's -

Hello All,
Neal Thomas sent me the list. Insanity begins.

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To: 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:36:07 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: '52 Mantle in the DZK Auction

Okay, all bids have been removed. If you want to take a flyer on this
one, please send me another bid. It put a dent in the total pledges by
removing it, but under the circumstances I think this was the best
course of action. So at this moment there are NO bids on this one.

I=92ll have a fresh spreadsheet of items for auction out
shortly=85.operators are standing by to take your bids=85.

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:10:57 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "malsman250" 
Subject: Another auction lot

Hope I'm not too late to throw another log on the fire - how about:

1940 Playball #47, Oscar Vitt, Cleveland Indians. Rounded
corners,crease - typical OBC condition.

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 17:53:03 -0800
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: digdugdig@webtv.net
Subject: Auction

I've pondered for some time on just what exactly I wanted to do with
this "dupe" although I knew I wanted it to go out to OBC land somewhere.

Looks like a perfect scenerio!!

My "2 cents worth" is a 1956T #135...it's all there and well centered
but multiple and heavy creasing...still very "presentable" albeit a bit
fragile due to the heavy creasing. As "pounded" as it sounds...a low
price "steal" for a high priced piece of cardboard!!

Sorry Grant...no paper loss, torn corners, and no beards...leaves you
out!!!...but ya gotta be #1 for your time and effort on this one!!!

To quote "Bama", we should all be "tiping our caps" to you and your

OBC............................'nuff said

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Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 21:04:49 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: scans for my auction lots

now can you give a man some 'biddin room?
Go OBC!
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To: "obc rambling" 
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 21:25:49 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: john morrison

Hello All,
Thanks to OBC I was able to get a great deal from him at almost nothing. Hesent
mostly semi stars with some stars to all kinds of list. I am now downto
13 for the 56 set

Anthony Arbeeny
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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:54:52 +0000
From: dodgergeo@comcast.net
Subject: Auction lot

A little SCP to start out; hopefully I'll put some more up when I get some spare time.
Up for bids is a '57 Topps #400 Dodgers Sluggers with Furillo, Hodges, Campy and the Duke.  Condition, because it is a Brooklyn Dodger card, is Tipton mint.  Corners are rounded, but not terribly so.  Off center 60-40 top to bottom, 70-30 left to right.  The back is clean.

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 22:19:26 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: trufan999@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Kilborn Auction Offerings

Mistake found... In the auction I have listed as 1957 team cards they are
1959's   Thanks Mike Rich for finding my mistake

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 03:24:19 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "larrygersh" 
Subject: Auction Lots

Gershlot#1-1966 Topps-Don Sutton RC #288 VGEX

Gershlot#2-1980 Topps-Nolan Ryan #580 VGEX

Gershlot#3-1969 Topps-Rod Carew #510 EX

Gershlot#4-1962 Topps Greenies- #134,139,147 VGEx or better

Gershlot#5-1955 Topps-Grab bag assortment of any ten of my
dupes, all Gersh originals. VG or better
Winner picks out of fifty available.

Gershlot#6-1967 Topps-Two nosebleedeers #566 & 588 EX with small
stain on the front.

Gershlot#7-1969 Topps-five Hi #'s 608,615,625,633,647 EX

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To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 22:37:40 -0500
From: Bob Saxton 
Subject: 52 Bowman baseball for DZK Lot 2

Here are scans of my second lot for the auction
Lot 2 includes #11 Ralph Kiner, #15 Sam Mele, #26 Eddie Joost, #49 Jim
Hearn, #54 Billy Pierce, #57 Clyde Vollmer, #58 Hank Majeski
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To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 22:36:31 -0500
From: Bob Saxton 
Subject: 52 Bowman baseball for DZK lot 1

My first try at posting two lots for the auction didn't go through on
ramblings, so here is the first lot

Lot 1 has #66 Sal Maglie, #78 Lloyd Merriman, #99 Clyde McCullough, #157
Jim Delsing, #158 Bucky Harris, # 168 Preacher Roe

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:00:57 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob Farrell" 
Subject: Dustin's Auction  - a handy web link **

I have placed the auction offerings into a web page for easy access.
I will do my best to keep it current with the information on Grant's

http://members.cox.net/rrfarrell

Hope you find it useful.

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 04:18:37 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" 
Subject: Dis and Dat

As many of you know, for the last month I have been splitting my work
weeks between Cleveland and Detroit.  As of now, I think I will
remain in Detroit for the rest of the year, however, I was asked if I
would consider a permanent move to Cleveland, to head up the Ohio
title ops for the firm.  Our Ohio ops are MUCH larger than the
Michigan operation.  They suggested that I could continue to run
Michigan from Cleveland as well.  After I said no on Tuesday, they
asked on Thursday, if I would take it over, while remaining in
Detroit.  However, this would mean I would need to spend 2-3 days a
week in Cleveland.  How that is significantly different from moving
there, I am not sure.  I have said no.  As someone pointed out, when
offered a "promotion" and turning it down, people tend to have a
limited life with a company.  I therefore expect to probably be
leaving the company early in the new year.  Things could change, as I
already quit in July, and was talked into staying.
Meanwhile, I have taken advantage of the time I spent in Cleveland,
by spending time with one of my best bud's and his family (keep
missing Joe Isaac), and finding 2 card stores.  I tried to leave
Cleveland early enough to go to Dustin's funeral Tuesday.  I would
have had to leave by 11.  I left at 4:15, so there was no need to
rush back.  I found a card shop, Sports Cards U.S.A., and picked up a
cannister filled with 1969 Topps stamps (can someone send me the
checklist again, I lost the previous one), 8 1962 Salada coins,
including 2 tough shortprints I needed, and 75 1964 Topps coins (8
were upgrades, 2 of the last 3 Mark Talbot needs, the set finisher
for a buddy of mine, plus lots of others).  Seperately, I got a 1938
Goudey and a 1950 Bowman Berra at 5% of book.  Not a bad haul for my
first time at this store.
On Wednesday, I went to our local weekly show and saw Mark Talbot's
buddy Harold.  I bought a few things from Harold.  One card I passed
on, was a 1962 Topps #1 Maris in decent shape (corners rounded, but
few creases and no noticeable damage) for $50 (books at $500).
Harold will be setting up at a show this Sunday and I can grab it if
anyone is interested, presuming he still has it.
Gotta love being a bachelor.  Card shop on Tuesday, show on Wednesday
and another on Sunday.  Better save some funds for the auction.  Lots
of items right up my alley, such as the 33 World Wide Gum or go for a
type card like the 51 Topps team card.  Diamond Stars, Obaks, Nu Card
Hi Lites (only see the Scoops normally) and a questionable Mantle are
truly special donations catching my eye.
Mike Rich

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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:26:59 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Paul Biggs 
Subject: Hockey item for Dustin's auction

Up for auction here is an autographed Mike Bossy 4x6 photo. He's shown in a Team Canada uniform. I can guarantee authenticity of the autograph since I got it in person. If you need a COA, I could scribble one out for you. I'll send a scan later if I can figure out how the scanner works.

Paul Biggs

Yahoo! Shopping
Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:16:29 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: DZK Memorial Scholarship Fund

I would like to share with my valued OBC family the progress being made
on the Fund and a few stories that will give a sense of how and why we
decided to honor my son in this manner. I have shared bits and pieces of
this with some of you but I just want all of you to know where your
generous donations are going. I know you all are giving freely because
that's who you are, and do not need this information, however I want to
assure the integrity of this Memorial Fund. I apologise in advance for
this lengthy ramble, but it is very therapeutic for me. If you get tired
of reading before I get tired of writing, feel free to opt out at any

The Memorial Fund will be an ongoing family project that will provide
scholarships for youngsters to go to Hockey Camps, and learn to skate
clinics. Our banker is preparing all of the paperwork & I will go in on
Tuesday to sign papers and make the first deposit into the account. My
youngest daughter is Comptroller at a local manufacturing company so she
will be our treasurer. Myself and my two older daughters will make up
the "selection committee" and develop the criteria for scholarship
recipients as well as provide newsletters and updates for donors. At
this point all we are sure of is that it will be for youngsters who
would otherwise be unable to attend camp. My wife will still be my wife
which means that she will supervise the whole process and have veto
power over the rest of us. A few of Dustin's old coaches have
volunteered to set up  tournaments at the Ice Arena where Dustin first
started playing the game that he loved so much and that gave us all so
much joy watching him play. The tournaments will be in Dustin's name
with all proceeds going to the Scholarship Fund. We picked the Red
Berenson Hockey School at the University of Michigan because 1) my wife
is an alumna of U of M.  2) it was Dustin's first and favorite hockey
camp.  3) Red Berenson was one of Grant's favorite players. 4) both Red
and Dustin once scored 6 goals in one period (correct me if I'm wrong on
Red, Grant)  5) and most importantly, as a player, ref & coach Dustin
loved to help less experienced players learn to play the game.

I'd like to share a trilogy that will give some insight into Dustin's
sensitivity in spite of his aggressive playing style. As well as
frequently leading his team in goals, he also generally led in both
assists and penalty minutes.

Warning: the following contains a lot of bragging on my part, but as
Dizzy Dean used to say, "if it's true, it ain't braggin!"

Chapter One:
Dustin often played "non-competitive" summer league hockey that was open
to all skill levels and each player got the same amount of ice time. One
team he played on had a girl who was a new skater & therefore pretty
unstable on her feet. She used her stick to hold her up so  when she
tried to shoot the puck she usually fell down. Coach often put her on
defense paired with a much more skilled defenseman who could cover for
her. Through out the season she would talk about how she wished she
could score a goal. Dustin would encourage her and told her to keep
working and she eventually would score. Since summer leagues played only
seven games her opportunities were limited. At the 7th & final game
Stephanie was yet to score a goal. In the third period Dustin convinced
Coach to put him and Stephanie out on the same shifts. Dustin then told
Stephanie that when he got the puck that she was to go to the left side
of the net and put her stick on the ice with the tip of the blade up
against goal post. He would then come down the right side, deke the
goalie and put a pass right on her stick. On the first two attempts,
Stephanie saw the passes coming, slapped at them which sent her to the
ice and the puck to the corner. Dustin kept reminding her that all she
needed to do was hold her stick firmly on the ice and the puck would go
off her stick and into the net. On the third try the plan worked to
perfection and the red light went on. Stephanie was obviously very
excited and kept falling down attempting to give her teammates
celebratory hugs. She even attempted to hug a few players from the
opposing team. Meanwhile Dustin intercepted the ref as he headed for
center ice, got the puck and took it to Stephanie. Not fully
understanding, Stephanie attempted to give the puck back to the ref who
informed her that it was hers to keep. At the post game pizza party
Stephanie kept holding up her puck saying "I can't believe I scored a

If you are still awake and still with me here is a hopefully shorter
Chapter two:
I mentioned that Dustin was also a referee and frequently reffed younger
division games. Again we have a player so small that all you see is a
helmet, a jersey and two skates who is not too coordinated and spends
much of his time flat out on the ice. On one such occasion little number
4 was sprawled out on the ice flailing his stick at the puck. On one
particular flail, he actually connected and the puck headed for the net.
As is frequently the case in novice  games, nine players were in a bunch
at the front of the net. The puck hit the stick of one of the more
skilled players who directed it into the net. With all those bodies in
front of the net, the scorer, Dustin and maybe the "red light guy" knew
who actually scored. The celebration began with sticks in the air and
kids trying to jump up and down on their skates. Dustin went to the kid
who scored and who had many goals to his credit, whispered through the
youngsters ear hole in his helmet which was nodding vigorously and
affirmatively. Dustin then went to the official scorer to inform him
that the ice sprawn kid had scored the goal. Over the PA came the
announcement "goal scored by number 4" as Dustin handed him his puck.

Generally the final Chapter is the most significant. (yes, Virginia this
ramble does have an end)

Chapter 3:
This is the story that our daughter wrote and shared at Dustin's
Memorial Service. There was not a dry eye in the room afterward so go
get your kleenex! This is verbatim: Kelli's Story

"I'd like to share with you a special gift my brother gave to me. It's
the love I have for hockey. My brother started playing hockey around age
7. Since he was 9 years younger than me, that made me 16.

The more Dustin played the more interested I became, and the better
he became, the more I enjoyed watching him play. It wasn't long and
Dustin became extremely gifted at his favorite sport. Not only was he
leading his team in goals and assists, he was also leading his team in
penalty minutes. I liked to refer to him as an aggressive player. As
Dustin's love for hockey grew so did my love grow for the game itself.

A few years passed and I thought it might be fun to actually play the
game, rather then just watch. After all, how hard could it be, my baby
brother had been playing since he was 7.

After a brief conversation with Dustin, he eagerly laced up my skates,
grabbed a couple of sticks and to the backyard ice rink we went.

It was only after stepping onto the ice for the first time that I
realized this was going to be much more difficult then I anticipated.
Immediately Dustin was laughing. Encouraging me on and skating circles
around me. For the first time in my life Dustin was my coach.

Although Dustin was a great coach and inspiration to me, I still
couldn't skate. I'd fall down and he would help me up. This happened
over and over again. I'm not sure if it was my lack of coordination, my
unsteady feet or the continuous laughing we both did that day, but I
couldn't skate.

This is one of the fond memories I have of my brother and the special
gift he gave to me. The love for hockey: I will cherish it always"

Ok, therapy session is done, thank you very much and send me my bill.

We keep what we give away!

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To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:28:06 -0500
From: "Bob Reed" 
Subject: DZK Auction - 39 Kellogg 3D Cards

I'm offering up some Kellogg's 3D cards.  Some of the 76's have cracks but
the 79's and 80's are virtually crack free.

1976 – 15, 16, 20, 23, 25, 32 (Seaver), 38, 44, 46, 53 (Munson)
1979 - 2, 3, 8, 14, 24, 31, 32, 33, 53, 54
1980 – 1, 3, 8, 11, 16, 18, 19, 21, 22, 28, 29, 34, 35, 45, 48, 50, 55, 56,

-Bob R

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:16:39 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: DZK RC
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To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:42:28 -0500
From: "Bob Reed" 
Subject: DZK - 1972 Football Rookie/Star lot (7)

Here are 7 rookie and star cards from the 1972 football set.  I collected
these as a kid so they've only had one owner.  If the bid goes over 25 cents
I throw in free shipping, 50 cents and you'll receive a bonus gift.

Condition is VG+/Ex
13 John Riggins
55 Archie Manning
93 Ted Hendricks
100 Joe Namath
106 Lyle Alzado
110 Gale Sayers
122 Roger Staubach Pro Action

-Bob R

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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:07:44 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction Update

Attached is a spreadsheet with all listed items as of 9:00 AM EST. If
you have put something up for auction, please have a look and make sure
it is there. With all this volume the odds are I have missed something.
If I have, please let me know=85.

Still some awfully nice items out there with NO bids!

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Date: 10 Dec 2005 14:10:52 -0000
To: "Grant" , 
From: "obcjohn@knology.net" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK Auction Update

Grant I sent in 5 more lots yesterday.  I'll resend the items.

------------- Original message follows -------------

Attached is a spreadsheet with all listed items as of 9:00 AM EST. If
you have put something up for auction, please have a look and make sure
it is there. With all this volume the odds are I have missed something.
If I have, please let me know….

Still some awfully nice items out there with NO bids!

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:29:53 EST
To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: cardclctor@aol.com
Subject: On the couch

(Some of the following is based on a true story)

Scene: Psychiatrist's office, just after 9:30 AM. A man bursts through the
door and startles the doctor.

Ken M: Doc, you gotta help me! I'm desperate!
Doctor: Whoa! Slow down there. Do you have an appointment?
Ken: Yes, I do now. I just paid $50 to your 9:30 appointment, so I could see
you right away. He's outside rescheduling.
Doc: OK then, have a seat on the couch and let's get started. What seems to
be the problem?
K: Well, it all started a couple weeks ago. I think I'm losing my mind. You
see, I'm part of this online group of baseball card collectors and...
D: Oh? I used to collect baseball cards when I was a kid. My mother threw
them out though. Speaking of that, tell me about your mother.
K: My mother?! Well, she never threw my cards out and I don't think I have
any issues with her. She probably doesn't have anything to do with this. It's ME
that has the problem.
D: I see. So how would you describe this problem?
K: Well, I'm forgetting names and stuff... or transposing them and I don't
know why. 
D: Easy now. Can you give me an instance in which this occured?
K: Yeah, a couple weeks ago I got an e-mail from my friend Peter offering a
few cards up for grabs. I replied to him and requested one... only I somehow
confused his e-mail address with my other friend Tom's. Kinda threw him for a
loop calling him Tom, but he sent the card anyway. You think it was because he
just felt sorry for me?
D: That doesn't seem too odd. It could happen to...
K: WAIT! That's not where it ends. The other day I got this package of
football cards in the mail. You see, our group likes to practice "random acts of
kindness". I told everyone I was starting all these football sets and I guess it
was my fault I didn't specifically say what sets I was now collecting, but
this package kinda threw me for a loop. I started all the 1960's Philadelphia Gum
sets and I got a package of Philadelphia Eagles cards. Now I don't want to
sound like I didn't appreciate the thought behind the package, because I am
always thankful whenever anyone takes the time to send me stuff. The awful part
is, I thanked the wrong person for the cards! I DID IT AGAIN!
D: Calm down. It was probably just an honest mistake.
K: How can that be? The envelope clearly said "GERSH" on the return address.
The note inside was signed "GERSH". Why am I thanking Gary Mandell, who is
clearly not Gersh!? I mean, one time could be just a mistake, but TWO times is a
trend. It's almost like "random acts of gratitude"! AAARRRGGGHHH!!
D: Hmmm... this is an interesting case. Do you have a website?
K: Sure. Let me pull it up on your handy computer here... Hey, you ever
notice how when there's snow on the ground, that people suddenly lose all ability
to drive or pay attention to road signs? Like going the wrong way down one way
streets and ignoring stop signs and red lights?
D: You seem to be going off on a tangent here.
K: Yes, that happens to me a lot too... especially when I'm typing up one of
my e-mails. It might be part of the problem.
D: Ahhh, I see now. This is your wantlist, correct?
K: Yeah, but I haven't updated it to include the new football sets yet.
D: So you're collecting 48-49 Leaf and a tobacco set with all the same backs?
And some pretty obscure and subtle variations on top of that?
K: Yes sir. That's the general idea of it all.
D: I see. This is all pretty clear to me now.
K: What is it Doc? Is it the holiday stress? Is it old age setting in
already? Am I really losing my mind? Or is it something worse?
D: Well, there is a fairly specific term we like to use in the field to
describe your situation.
K: So you know what it is? I'll pay you whatever it takes to cure me.
D: Well, the term we use to describe the situation is this: You're hopeless.
I'm sorry, but your time is up for the session... and honestly, I wouldn't
bother making an appointment for any follow up sessions. I think I've heard more
than I wanted or needed to hear. Thanks for stopping in. I'll send you my
bill. Please make the check out to the right person if you could be so kind
K: Thanks for nothing.

Ken M - waiting for the rubber room

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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:42:24 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction

Lot of emails about where the bids stand. I ran the issue by a couple of
seasoned OBC vets, and we decided the next spreadsheet coming out will
include what the high bid is at the moment. Hopefully this will spur
some bidding activity=85.like I need the extra emails=85.(no, I=92m not really

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 11:06:25 EST
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: LUURSCJG@aol.com
Subject: DZK AUCTION

Ok I have been debating wheher to add these to the auction because of the
shape they are in.  I know what Tiptons are but even these give Tipons a bad

1968 Brooks Robinson All Star Card # 365
1974 Brooks Robinson #150
1970 Hank Aaron All Star Card #462
1969 Willie Stargell #545
1967 Los Angeles Dodger Team Card #503

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To: "Ramblings" 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:18:35 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Card Rejected by OBC?

Check out 707 Sportcards offering of a 1952 Bowman Berra - or parts thereof.
Ebay item: 8731820162. Poor enough to share with two friends.
George Vrechek
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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:05:20 +0000
From: hoot-owl@comcast.net
Subject: DZK Auction--Maz autograph

another lot--

hoot-owl 4---8x10 photograph of Bill Mazerowski as he is about to land on home plate--game 7 1960 world series.  Autographed by Maz.  Got this for subscribing to Tuff Stuff--once upon a time.  What a lousy magazine--but a great autographed photograph.
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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:10:31 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: 1980 Fleer WS Stickers  -- Info needed

Hi all.  The popular 1970 & 1971 Fleer WS cards were reissued in 1980, thistime
as a set of stickers.   These were not an insert into another product.
They came in their own separate box.   I saw a guy had a box but he wanted
$3 per pack.   What a joke!   Anyway, I'm having a hard time finishing my
set -- and now I am wondering how many are in the set.   I thought that the
set started in 1940 but I can't find a 1940 sticker.  I can't find the set
listed in SCD or on beckett.com

Does anyone have any information?   Bama?  I remember getting lots of information
about this set (and about the 1981 All-Star sticker set) from Bama. Maybe
you can help me again.  Bama, do you have a 1940 sticker?

After I get some answers, I'll happily share all my dupes for 1980 and 1981with
the group.  Or maybe I'll put them into the auction if I get organized

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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:16:45 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Creature Double Feature

One of my fondest memories from childhood was "Creature Double Feature".   I've
found out that others enjoyed it just as much, including Jim Hatch.  Iwonder
if it was shown only in New England where we grew up.

To learn more, check out this Wikipedia link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creature_Double_Feature
The write-up is 100% accurate.  Creature Double
Feature is definitely the source of my affection for old horror / sci-movies.
I currently have a collection of probably 50 or so though I haventever
really counted.   And now with Blockbuster online rentals, I can see the
others without the cost and clutter of ownership.

In a burst of inspiration, I'm going to go out now, get some fixin's for lunch
and then come back and watch a couple of movies from the Invisible Man series.

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:23:58 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Bob D'Angelo" 
Subject: DZK auction additions

Hope I am not too late with this one, but I dug these out as I was
rummaging through the cards closet.

Lot 1 -- 1976 Cincinnati Reds media guide. Joe Morgan on cover in
two pics (second pic shows him connecting for Game 7 winning hit in
1975 World Series), plus a photo of the World Series trophy. Some
pencil marks on inside cover page, but does not detract. Start at

Lot 2 -- 1968 Oakland A's media guide -- The first media guide for
the A's in Oakland. Probably first listing for Reggie Jackson. Bios
are brief (try getting away with a paragraph on Reggie today!), but
the book is in nice shape. Start at $10

Lot 3 -- 1970 Houston Astros media guide -- Decent shape,
nondescript cover that lists most of the names of current (1970,
that is) and previous Astros. Start at $10.

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To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (OBC Ramblings)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:59:30 +0000
From: jrhatchjr@comcast.net
Subject: DZK auction lot: Joe DiMaggio

Greetings all,
I made a visit to my cards (currently in stoarge) and found a true OBC treasure for the auction: a 1943 MP & Co Joe Di Maggio. This card is GUARANTEED to be a Tipton that will fill at least 80% of your empty binder space. What's more, this gem is a RARE VARIATION as it is actually missing letters on the front of the card! That's right: "oe Maggio"!  How many of these have you ever seen? This simply has to be the ONLY ONE of its kind! Scan is attached so you can witness this rariry for yourself.
High bidder will also receive ANOTHER BONUS HOFer from this set!
Ugly issue?? Yes.
Ugly card?? Yes.
Key card in set?? Yes!
Bid high?? YES!!!
Suggested minimum: $35.00 (10% of my 2002 "book")
Happy Collecting!
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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:52:15 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: New lot- 1961 Fleers

I just realized that the Barry Halper Collection and the Grant Rainsley
Collection are extremely similar! Both feature the word =93collection=94 in
the description. Wow, I=92m in the big leagues, I guess. Up for auction is
a lot of (4) 1961 Fleers=85.#5, 21, 52 and 65. Guru wouldn=92t have any part
of these, they are all at least Ex, sharp corners for the most part, no
writing. Don=92t let these get away! As usual, no reserve, and NO MAXIMUM
BID! In keeping with the rules, I (as the donor) will get stuck with the

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Date: 10 Dec 2005 19:18:56 -0000
To: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" ,
From: "obcjohn@knology.net" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1980 Fleer WS Stickers  -- Info needed

The set starts with a 1940 card and goes thru 1979.  The new SCD list the
set at $50 (look under Fleer in the preUV section)  I have two sets and it
appears that there are back sticker variations as in the 1981 All Star set.

------------- Original message follows -------------

Hi all.  The popular 1970 & 1971 Fleer WS cards were reissued in 1980, this
time as a set of stickers.   These were not an insert into another product.
They came in their own separate box.   I saw a guy had a box but he wanted
$3 per pack.   What a joke!   Anyway, I'm having a hard time finishing my
set -- and now I am wondering how many are in the set.   I thought that the
set started in 1940 but I can't find a 1940 sticker.  I can't find the set
listed in SCD or on beckett.com

Does anyone have any information?   Bama?  I remember getting lots of
information about this set (and about the 1981 All-Star sticker set) from
Bama.  Maybe you can help me again.  Bama, do you have a 1940 sticker?

After I get some answers, I'll happily share all my dupes for 1980 and 1981
with the group.  Or maybe I'll put them into the auction if I get organized

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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 12:34:38 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction Update and a reminder.....

Okay, I have crumpled under the pressure=85.folded like a House of
Cards=85.(BB Cards)=85=85

No one has lost their minds completely with their bidding, so the new
spreadsheet also contains high bids and who placed them=85.for those who
get Ramblings in digest form, apparently you won=92t be able to get the
attachment, so I have c.c.=92d it to Bob Farrell, who has been an enormous
help with the page he set up=85maybe it can go there Bob? Or else if you
can=92t access one, you can email me and I=92ll see that you get the latest

Hopefully this will allow you to figure out just how much of the budget
for food you have blown already, and you=92ll be able to start eliminating
people who won=92t be getting presents this year due to financial

Oh yeah, the reminder part=85=85.listings close tomorrow (Sunday) night at 9
PM EST, or 6 PST. You will be able to bid until Monday night, same time,
same station.

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:02:35 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: dsh46@aol.com
Subject: re: 1980 Fleer WS Stickers

The Fleer WS cards also came in packs of 1982 Fleer cards with two  team logo
stickers (or one, I forget) on the back instead of the series write  up.
There were quite a few combinations as I recall.  I believe the  series card
served as backing for the stickers and was not a sticker  itself.  I may still
have some lying around, then again I may not-I used  them as filler and spacer
cards for many years.

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:51:07 EST
To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: cardclctor@aol.com
Subject: Try THAT on eBay

Hi all,
I just put in a $20 bid on the T205 Clarke that's in the DZK auction. The
beauty of this is that it's the card I put up for auction... boy, am I gonna
save some cake on postage if I win! I might move it from one side of the desk
to the other and consider it shipped. As soon as Grant installs some kind of
feedback system, I'm going to leave some glowing comments for myself too. The
best part is that I'm winning my own card back for less than I paid for it the
first time! Sweet! Of course anyone can still ruin my plan by putting in
another bid, as I've reached my maximum on this lot. The things I do for amusement
on a snow day...

Ken M

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To: ,
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:02:19 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Try THAT on eBay

And the best part is that Ken has to up his bid=85..it was already at $20,
so the first one in at that price is the leader=85..back to the drawing
board Ken=85.or maybe take a nap=85..as for Feedback, it is generally
limited to less than an encyclopedia, so I have no idea what you would
be able to squeeze in there=85.

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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:51 PM
To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Try THAT on eBay

Hi all,
I just put in a $20 bid on the T205 Clarke that's in the DZK auction.
The beauty of this is that it's the card I put up for auction... boy, am
I gonna save some cake on postage if I win! I might move it from one
side of the desk to the other and consider it shipped. As soon as Grant
installs some kind of feedback system, I'm going to leave some glowing
comments for myself too. The best part is that I'm winning my own card
back for less than I paid for it the first time! Sweet! Of course anyone
can still ruin my plan by putting in another bid, as I've reached my
maximum on this lot. The things I do for amusement on a snow day...

Ken M

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To: ,
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:04:00 -0800
From: "Brian Lindholme" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Try THAT on eBay

Well, Ken it's not snowing here on the Oregon Coast, but with your help I figured
out something amusing to do on this sunny day...

Earlier this morning I spent 2 hours in front of a local department store...(
well, actually, it's a 100 mile round trip drive to that store)...ringing
the bell and collecting money for the Salvation Army !

That was very rewarding, but I was also rewarded with an OBC envelope...from

2 Outstanding hits to my T205 set !! Paskert & McIntyre !!!
That leaves just 27 of the cards to go for the set !!! Unbelievable!!THANK YOU
 KEN !!

Here is my source of amusement...I'm going to save Ken even MORE money on shipping
by bidding on these two cards!

Since I don't want to lose this auction, I will bid silently and send the money
to the OBC treasurer and consider it a WINNING BID !!!  YAHOO!! I WON TWO
CARDS IN THE EEK / DZK AUCTION !!!

You see, I have been noticing the great cards being offered up and decided that
I could support the auction better just by bidding. I already found the
two cards I wanted !!!!
Thanks for the great auction opportunity !!! Look for the $$$ from a paypalpayment
later tonight, Bob.

You guys are amazing!!!
OBC FOREVER

----- Original Message -----
From: cardclctor@aol.com
To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 4:51 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Try THAT on eBay

Hi all,
I just put in a $20 bid on the T205 Clarke that's in the DZK auction. The
beauty of this is that it's the card I put up for auction... boy, am I gonna
save some cake on postage if I win! I might move it from one side of the
desk to the other and consider it shipped. As soon as Grant installs some
kind of feedback system, I'm going to leave some glowing comments for myself
too. The best part is that I'm winning my own card back for less than Ipaid
for it the first time! Sweet! Of course anyone can still ruin my planby
putting in another bid, as I've reached my maximum on this lot. The things
I do for amusement on a snow day...

Ken M

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To: 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:37:22 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: 1953 - 1963 Topps cards -- DZK Auction

Hi all.   I'd like to generate more action and contributions to the auction.
  Here's what I came up with:

For a $10 contribution (sent to Bob Donaldson), I'll pull 10 Topps cards from
my dupes box, one each from 1953-1962.  I'll do my best to send cards that
you need.  Condition?   hahahaha.   BV?   Dunno.   I don't know if therewill
be stars in the grouping either but the more people that respond, themore
generous I'll be.

So send an email to me (or I suppose send one to Grant but he's overloaded as
it is) letting me know how many of these lots you want.  I can accomodate
at least the first 50 requests.   That'd be cool -- we'd raise $500, I'd send
out as many as 50 packages and I'd lighten the dupes box.

Use these for your own sets, to start new sets or to have something in yourdupes

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Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:56:05 -0800 (PST)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Paul Biggs 
Subject: Dustin's Auction - Tony Oliva autograph

A 4x5 photo of Tony Oliva autographed. Photo is a Twins issue from 2002. Autograph is guaranteed authentic as I obtained it in person. I'll send a scan if I can figure out how the scanner works.

Paul Biggs

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To: "obc rambling" 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:28:38 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: Helmar part 5

Hello All,
What a productive day on this, I have been able to help 10 traders on this set
with 2 killer. In return I have knock the heck out of the set with plenty
of dupe power for the rest. Thanks for the first day on this
Update list since I had some qick hits:

Hello All,,
Here it is my needs:
For Baseball Players:

Frank Baker

Mordecai Brown

Lloyd Dalager

Leon Daniels

Martin Dihigo

Happy Felsch

Art Hamilton

Joe Hauser

Joe Jackson-Clevend

Hugh Jennings

Ceiol Kaiser

John Mcgraw

Ted Radcliffe

Eppa Rixey-cinninnati misspelled

Mose Walker

Buck Weaver

For Boxing:  Harry Grebe, Nelson,

kaoru betto,Sherwood Brewer, Ray Chapman, Jimmie Crutchfeild, Kiki Cuyler, Sadayoshi
Fujimoto,Chick Gandil, Goto, pete hill, Dave Jones, Tetsuharu kawakami,
Tokuji Lida, Dave Malarcher, sam mcvea,Hugh Mcaleer, Jiro Noguchi, Herb
Penncock, Turky Stearns, Jesse Tally, John Tucker,Walker-toledo, Jack Dempsy,
Darnell Knox, Suger Robinson, Max schmelling

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To: ,
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:40:35 -0600
From: "Greg \(yaz\)" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK Auction Update and a reminder.....

DZK Auction Update and a reminder.....Grant,

I can't open an XLS file. I have MSworks suite instead of the Word Suite, Excel,
etc. Is there a text file version? The one you sent earlier in Wordpad
was fine.

Greg (yaz)
----- Original Message -----
From: Grant
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'Bob Farrell'
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK Auction Update and a reminder.....

Okay, I have crumpled under the pressure=85.folded like a House of Cards=85.(BB

No one has lost their minds completely with their bidding, so the new spreadsheet
also contains high bids and who placed them=85.for those who get Ramblings
in digest form, apparently you won=92t be able to get the attachment,
so I have c.c.=92d it to Bob Farrell, who has been an enormous help with
the page he set up=85maybe it can go there Bob? Or else if you can=92t access
one, you can email me and I=92ll see that you get the latest copy=85

Hopefully this will allow you to figure out just how much of the budget for
food you have blown already, and you=92ll be able to start eliminating people
who won=92t be getting presents this year due to financial constraints.

Oh yeah, the reminder part=85=85.listings close tomorrow (Sunday) night at
9 PM EST, or 6 PST. You will be able to bid until Monday night, same time,
same station.

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To: "obc rambling" 
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 23:46:39 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: helmar part #6

Update list since I had some quick hits:

Hello All,,
Here it is my needs:
For Baseball Players:

Frank Baker

Mordecai Brown

Lloyd Dalager

Leon Daniels

Martin Dihigo

Happy Felsch

Art Hamilton

Joe Hauser

Joe Jackson-Clevend

Hugh Jennings

Ceiol Kaiser

Ted Radcliffe

Eppa Rixey-cinninnati misspelled

Mose Walker

Buck Weaver

For Boxing:  Harry Grebe, Nelson

kaoru betto,Sherwood Brewer, Ray Chapman, Jimmie Crutchfeild, Kiki Cuyler, Sadayoshi
Fujimoto,Chick Gandil, Goto, pete hill, Dave Jones, Tetsuharu kawakami,
Tokuji Lida, Dave Malarcher, sam mcvea,Hugh Mcaleer, Jiro Noguchi, Herb
Penncock, Turky Stearns, Jesse Tally, John Tucker,Walker-toledo, Jack Dempsy,
Darnell Knox, Suger Robinson, Max schmelling
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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:08:44 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "xtrjmx" 
Subject: Another dealer chips in for the DZK auction...

Hi all... Last month a new owner bought the card shop I'd been
frequenting over the past year, and I couldn't be happier! FINALLY, we
have a guy in town that enjoys having kids in his shop and has a
passion for collecting and helping collectors. Nice is too subtle of a
word. For instance, this afternoon when I took Ben in there for the
first time the guy about breaks his neck giving (yeah, GIVING)Ben
catcher cards, all the while talking with me. I had told him about OBC
before and I told him about our current auction. After commenting on
the sadness of the loss, he immediately said "Wow... let me get some
stuff for your auction!" He proceded to pull two magazines (and a
figurine) for me to add to the auction.  The magazines are an August
1946 issue of Baseball Magazine and an August 2, 1954 issue of Sports
Illustrated -- the second issue EVER of SI!! The downside is that the
article on the cards with the foldout had already been pulled out, but
it's still a cool issue.  The figurine is a 2004 McFarland Lebron
James (MIP). He also sold me a TRUELY TIPTON '52 Topps of Mickey
Harris for $1 that I'm including. I've had too much fun with my
scanner tonight, as you'll see. Here they are:

1) Baseball Magazine, August 1946 -- ok condition but there is tape on
the spine. I've uploaded five scans from it that should give you a
good idea:

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/BBMag_Aug46_Cover.jpg
Front Cover, sporting an in-action photo of "Buster Mills, Cleveland
Outfielder, scampering back to first base as Rudy York of the Red Sox
tried to catch him off the bag."

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/BBMag_Aug46_InsideCover.jpg
Inside front cover -- a great photo of "RON NORTHEY, STOCKY LITTLE
OUTFIELDER OF THE HUSTLING PHILADELPHIA BLUE JAYS" (interested, Josh?! )

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/BBMag_Aug46_TOC.jpg
Table of Contents #1 -- Full page, including editorial comment

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/BBMag_Aug46_TOC2.jpg
Table of Contents #2 -- Close-up of the Table of Contents, more legible

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/SI_Issue2_Cover.jpg
Cover of the 2nd Sports Illustrated Issue ever... August 2, 1954.
Again, THE INSERT WITH THE PICTURE OF THE CARDS FROM ISSUE #1 IS MISSING.

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/SI_Issue2_TOC.jpg
Table of Contents of the Sports Illustrate issue.

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/52T_Harris_Front.jpg
http://members.cox.net/jwscards/52T_Harris_Back.jpg
The front and back of the '52 Topps #207, Mickey Harris

http://members.cox.net/jwscards/LebronJames_McFarland.jpg
2004 McFarland Lebron James, mint in package. I know this is a little
out of line but I also know we have a few hardcore hoops fans here!

At any rate, enjoy the contributions from Big Rick and bid heavy!
I'll be posting more of my own stuff later, though I'll try to lighten
up a little on the scans. 

Take care...

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:09:57 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Helmars

Thanks to recent additions from Morganti, Housley and a package expected from
Ant, I am down to just 5 more Helmar cards:

Joe Jackson-Cleveland Expelled
Walter Ball Negro League
James Cobbin Negro League
Sam McVea zBoxer
Art Hamilton Baseball

And thanks to Morganti and Greco, I have a box full of dupes.   I'm still sorting
them but in the meantime, please send your list to the server.  Oh, many
of my dupes are scratched.  Specify "unscratched" if you care about that
sort of thing.

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To: "obc rambling" 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:30:22 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: helmar list #8 day 2

begining 12:12 am of day 2 with Steve Rittenberg  striking.

Update list since I had some quick hits:

Hello All,,
Here it is my needs:
For Baseball Players:

Frank Baker

Mordecai Brown

Leon Daniels

Happy Felsch

Art Hamilton

Joe Hauser

Joe Jackson-Clevend

Hugh Jennings

Ceiol Kaiser

Mose Walker (not he toledo one..I am mixed up about this one)

For Boxing:  Harry Grebe

kaoru betto,Sherwood Brewer, Ray Chapman, Jimmie Crutchfeild, Kiki Cuyler,
Sadayoshi Fujimoto,Chick Gandil, Goto, pete hill, Dave Jones, Tetsuharukawakami,
Tokuji Lida, Dave Malarcher, Hugh Mcaleer, Jiro Noguchi, Herb Penncock,
Turky Stearns, Jesse Tally, John Tucker,Walker-toledo, Jack Dempsy,Darnell
Knox, Suger Robinson, Max schmelling

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 01:55:59 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Squirrel 
Subject: Computer Blow Up

My PC blew up on Friday afternoon, I am now using a secondary MAC of
mine. Things I said I was to mail out to people during the last week
were going to be mailed on Friday. As luck would have it thats when
the PC died on me...I have a idea of what it is so this is just a temp
set back and will homefully get it back up so I can get at my notes I
have on that PC to what goes out to whom. I hope the auction is going
well. Grant, I'm curious to what my items are going for at the moment.
And to you all ..... GOD BLESS!

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 02:06:50 -0500
To: "Greg (yaz)" 
From: Squirrel 
Subject: Re: DZK Auction Update and a reminder.....

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:24:54 -0000
From: "geno.wagner" 
Subject: T202 Checklist

OBCers --

I have decided to try and complete a T202 set - I have one, so I'm almost
there!!  The T205 set I put togther is my prize possession, so I thought the
T202 set would be a great complement to it.  In order to add it to my list,
I typed up the checklist by the title of the center panel.  It was a bunch
of typing, so I thought I'd pass it along if anybody else wants it - just
let me know.  Also, if anybody has a spare T202 lying around, let me know
and maybe I can find something to trade for it!

Take Care, Geno

=================

To: "obc rambling" 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 09:29:13 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] helmar list #9 day 2

----- Original Message -----
From: ant
To: obc rambling
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:30 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] helmar list #8 day 2

With Steve Rittenberg  striking again

Update list since I had some quick hits:

Hello All,,
Here it is my needs:
For Baseball Players:

Frank Baker

Mordecai Brown

Leon Daniels

Art Hamilton

Joe Hauser

Joe Jackson-Clevend

Percy Walker (not he toledo one..I am mixed up about this one)

For Boxing:  Harry Grebe

kaoru betto,Sherwood Brewer, Ray Chapman, Jimmie Crutchfeild, Kiki Cuyler,
Sadayoshi Fujimoto,Chick Gandil, Goto, pete hill, Dave Jones, Tetsuharukawakami,
Tokuji Lida, Dave Malarcher, Hugh Mcaleer, Jiro Noguchi, Herb Penncock,
Turky Stearns, Jesse Tally, John Tucker,Walker-toledo, Jack Dempsy,Darnell
Knox, Suger Robinson, Max schmelling

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:23:04 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction Update-

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:50:35 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction Update...

Is also available at:

HYPERLINK "http://members.cox.net/rrfarrell"
http://members.cox.net/rrfarrell

Thanks to Bob Farrell for that=85.

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:00:03 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Update

Gang, we just officially cracked the $2,000 barrier, and this does not
include the $10 lots that Steve is putting together. (And I happen to
know that he has taken orders for quite a few!)

I=92m out for a couple of hours, will update later this afternoon=85.

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:27:09 -0500
To: grains@dccnet.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: Auction

I know I've expressed thanks to you at various times since that first
phone call I received from British Co. Thank you does not adequately
convey our deep appreciation for all of your efforts on the auction. My
wife and daughters wanted to make sure that I appropriately expressed
their gratitude to you and your game worn fingers.

We just got the latest update with the amount generated and the high
bids to date. We were all speechless & if you knew Phyl and my middle
daughter Kelli you would know what a feat that was! We were especially
astounded when we saw what Dustin's Rookie Card was going for.

The generous donations to the DZK Scholarship Fund are deeply
appreciated and will result in many little smiley faces on future
recipients. Above and beyond that, OBC has given our family so much more
by providing a sweet respite from the unspeakable pain and sorrow we
feel at this time. My Webtv unit has a little red light that goes on
when I get mail. Just as Dustin gave us so much happiness each time he
"turned on the red light" so has OBC.

We keep what we give away!

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:52:07 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction.....I did something bad!

The other day Mike Hair put his Ribs Recipe up for bid, and I forgot to
put it on the list. I=92m amending it right now=85.Mike, my apologies, if
you can, would you please send that offer out again on Ramblings? There
is a very =93juicy=94 offer on the recipe already that I=92m just waiting to

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:17:25 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: Mike Hair's Email

I forgot he was going to be away from his email=85..here it is:

-----Original Message-----
From: Topgolf@aol.com [mailto:Topgolf@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 6:19 PM
To: grains@dccnet.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dustin Kilbourn Auction

Since I will be out of town this weekend, and possibly away from the
email, I would like to put up the sauce auction ASAP. This will be a
dutch auction with as many recipes available as people who want to spend
$50.  I could have them send their intentions to me, I'll make a list of
those who purchase the recipe and send it to you. I would hope that we
could raise $500 from this and maybe more...there will be no more
eVents, and this will be the only time that the recipe will be offered.

Rest well,

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:41:55 -0500
From: "Bob Donaldson" 
Subject: DZK Auction Payments

Just a quick note that those of you who wish to use paypal for the DZK
auction winnings please use the treasurer@oldbaseball.com email address.

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:49:18 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction....News.....

Just had an IM/email session with Rick Ellison, =93retired=94 OBC=92er=85=85..he
just purchased four lots of Mike Hair=92s Ribs Recipe (MHRR for
short)=85..at 50 bucks a crack, swelling the scholarship coffers by $200.

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:20:09 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: topgolf@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK Auction.....I did something bad!
From: Topgolf@aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:56:26 EST
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK Auction.....I did something bad!
To: grains@dccnet.com

Grant et al,

Sorry if there was some confusion on my offering, I'll try and clear it up
with this email.

I am offering my recipe for the Vegas Rib Sauce. It is a dutch auction  where
as many people who bid $50 or more will receive the recipe. This is the
sauce that has been on the ribs for all of the eVents since 1996. There will be
no more eVents.  There will not be , as previously discussed, a party on
Fuerte next May. The Vegas eVent has run it's course and has been put to  rest.  As
an added feature, the person donation the most will receive an  addendum to
the recipe which discusses modification to the recipe that have been  tried,
both successful and a few not so successful. So far good friend Rick  Ellison
has laid down the gauntlet to challenge anyone to out bid him.

As many of you know this recipe has been a closely guarded secret that was
given to me in strictest confidence. I cannot think of a better cause to offer
it to others and I'm sure that those who entrusted me with the recipe would
be  proud that their secret would be going to a good cause.

So, pony up the $50 for the recipe, I will personally refund the full
purchase amount to anyone who is not satisfied with the recipe. And, is there
anyone out there who wants to take on Rick for the high bid????

Rest  well,

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:00:07 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction- closed for putting up lots....bidding still open, new spreadsheet.

Okay guys, no more lots up for auction, that part is closed.  I added a
few at the end this afternoon that are most definitely worth a look. The
bidding remains open until this time (9 EST, 6 PST) tomorrow. Please
have a real good look at the bids, I know I have made some errors along
the way=85.no Gold Glove for me this year. Let me know if anything is out
of whack.

We are less than $2 away from the $2500 mark, not including the lots of
10 cards for 10 bucks that Steve has going on the side=85.well done!

Thanks gang=85Grant

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:06:57 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" 
Subject: Auction addition

Hope this gets posted in time.
1963 Jell-o #15 Mickey Mantle in VG.  Store sticker is $100, as
graded.  I think top guide is in the $250 - $300 range.
Mike Rich

=================

To: grains@dccnet.com
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:13:11 -0500
From: Bob Saxton 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] DZK Auction- closed for putting up lots....bidding still open, new spreadsheet.

Grant, I'll bid $ for lot #69. the 60 Topps Maz and Killer

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:00:07 -0800 "Grant"  writes:

Okay guys, no more lots up for auction, that part is closed.  I added a
few at the end this afternoon that are most definitely worth a look. The
bidding remains open until this time (9 EST, 6 PST) tomorrow. Please have
a real good look at the bids, I know I have made some errors along the
way….no Gold Glove for me this year. Let me know if anything is out of
We are less than $2 away from the $2500 mark, not including the lots of
10 cards for 10 bucks that Steve has going on the side….well done!
Thanks gang…Grant

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To: "'mikesportsfan'" ,
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:16:56 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction addition

Okay, I'll sneak that one in....

-----Original Message-----
From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mikesportsfan
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:07 PM
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Auction addition

Hope this gets posted in time.
1963 Jell-o #15 Mickey Mantle in VG.  Store sticker is $100, as
graded.  I think top guide is in the $250 - $300 range.
Mike Rich

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Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:41:03 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: Re: 1972 Topps set in auction

Someone asked about the condition of my 1972 set in the auction. Here's how I
described it, in case people want to start an eBay-style bidding war:

> It's a mixed bag. A good chunk of the cards (50%?) are EX or better, but some
> stars are VG or lower. There aren't many creases until you get to the high
> numbers, though, and a bunch of those are in nice shape, too. It's an
> above-average OBC set.
> Spike

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To: 
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:02:09 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: Bids....

Will still be taken up until tomorrow night=85.there has been a flurry=85do
me a favor please and when you send a bid, add a very short description
of the lot you are bidding on=85.many thanks!

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To: 
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:57:12 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK Auction- Last Update of Bids

You can still bid, up until 9:00 PM EST, or 6 PST. If you can=92t get a
copy of this in your email, drop me a line, or check Bob Farrell=92s page.
This is the last update being sent out. I=92ll send out a final copy after
the auction ends  tonight.

ANONYMOUS BIDS- if you wish to make a donation anonymously, please drop
me a note with your amount, and assign yourself a name (eg- Matt Batts)
and I=92ll add it to the spreadsheet under that name.

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:33:56 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "larrygersh" 
Subject: Dustin's Auction

Hey gang,
In order to provide more info on lot #126
in which the winner gets to choose any ten of my
original Gersh-1955 Topps dupes, most all of which are VG,
here's what you get to choose from:

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Date: 12 Dec 2005 20:40:10 -0000
From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the OBC-Ramblings

File        : /Dustin Auction 2005.xls
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Date: 12 Dec 2005 21:08:12 -0000
From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the OBC-Ramblings

File        : /Dustin Auction 2005.xls
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:14:17 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: The Natural

Just finished watching my son's favorite  Baseball movie. The only other
time I watched it was with Dustin, who had seen it several times before.
At the end I asked him "what do you think the note said?" He replied
"did you sleep through the movie or what?" I think I'll watch the Wings
game now, I usually know what's going on there.

We keep what we give away!

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To: 
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:04:01 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: DZK AUCTION- BIDS CLOSED

That=92s it guys! First, give yourselves a round of applause=85=85..by my
reckoning we are just a hair under $3,000.00.  Outstanding effort, my
friends! That total does not include the lots that Steve was putting
together at $10 for 10 cards=85..Steve=85.a report on that?

I=92ll be tidying up some loose ends and will publish the final
spreadsheet within the hour I hope. Steve will add it to the Ramblings
server, and Bob Farrell will add it to his page.

Get you money ready=85.soon you will find out what you won, and what you
got sniped on.

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To: "obc rambling" 
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:01:07 -0500
From: "ant" 
Subject: helmar thanks

Hello All,
Jim Beauchemin sends 9 hits to the set. I lost track with the flood of emails
& think I only need 5 to complete. Not sure but that is also the fun of it
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To: 
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:01:47 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: Dustin's Scholarship Fund- Final Tally

Okay guys, here=92s where you find out who sniped you. Hopefully Bob can
put this on his page, and Steve will upload it to the Ramblings server.
I know there have been some glitches along the way, mostly dealing with
email and related issues. If I=92m out by a buck or two on your bids,
please don=92t yell at me- I have had a heckuva time keeping up with you
guys. If there is a serious issue, let me know, and I=92ll try to fix it.

Sellers (donors): you can see who the high bidder is, send the card/item
to them=85..

Bidders: look up what you spent, your money goes to Bob Donaldson=85.he
takes PayPal=85=85send it to  HYPERLINK "mailto:treasurer@oldbaseball.com"
treasurer@oldbaseball.com please.

If you have any problems figuring out what you have to send to who, or
how much money to send to Bob, let me know, and I=92ll look it up the hard
way. You should be able to get a tally pretty easily from the

On a personal note=85my thanks to guys who were all over me offering their
help=85.Bob D, Steve, Keith Summers, and Bob Farrell=85.you guys saved my

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Date: 13 Dec 2005 03:13:43 -0000
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To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: New file uploaded to OBC-Ramblings

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:32:25 -0800 (PST)
To: Grant , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Bob Farrell 
Subject: Re: Dustin's Scholarship Fund- Final Tally - Web page updated.

The web page has been updated.

Grant  wrote:      <<...>>
Okay guys, here’s where you find out who sniped you. Hopefully Bob can put this on his page, and Steve will upload it to the Ramblings server. I know there have been some glitches along the way, mostly dealing with email and related issues. If I’m out by a buck or two on your bids, please don’t yell at me- I have had a heckuva time keeping up with you guys. If there is a serious issue, let me know, and I’ll try to fix it.
Sellers (donors): you can see who the high bidder is, send the card/item  to them…..
Bidders: look up what you spent, your money goes to Bob Donaldson….he takes PayPal……send it to  HYPERLINK "mailto:treasurer@oldbaseball.com" treasurer@oldbaseball.com please.
If you have any problems figuring out what you have to send to who, or how much money to send to Bob, let me know, and I’ll look it up the hard way. You should be able to get a tally pretty easily from the spreadsheet.
On a personal note…my thanks to guys who were all over me offering their help….Bob D, Steve, Keith Summers, and Bob Farrell….you guys saved my life.

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:42:16 -0500 (EST)
To: 
From: 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dustin's Scholarship Fund- Final Tally

I think I speak for the entire group when I say, very simply....Well done!

> Okay guys, here’s where you find out who sniped you. Hopefully Bob can put
> this on his page, and Steve will upload it to the Ramblings server. I know
> there have been some glitches along the way, mostly dealing with email and
> related issues. If I’m out by a buck or two on your bids, please don’t
> yell at me- I have had a heckuva time keeping up with you guys. If there
> is a serious issue, let me know, and I’ll try to fix it.
> Sellers (donors): you can see who the high bidder is, send the card/item
> to them…..
> Bidders: look up what you spent, your money goes to Bob Donaldson….he
> takes PayPal……send it to  HYPERLINK "mailto:treasurer@oldbaseball.com"
> treasurer@oldbaseball.com please.
> If you have any problems figuring out what you have to send to who, or how
> much money to send to Bob, let me know, and I’ll look it up the hard way.
> You should be able to get a tally pretty easily from the
> spreadsheet.
> On a personal note…my thanks to guys who were all over me offering their
> help….Bob D, Steve, Keith Summers, and Bob Farrell….you guys saved my
> life.
> Grant
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To: 
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:20:38 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: Dustin's Auction

I made yet another mistake=85..Erik Greenwood brought it to my attention
that I forgot to drag a few cells into the formula thingy for the Excel
spreadsheet that my bride tried to teach me in a hurry, largely to no
avail, since I had to keep asking her to get me back on track=85.

It is now confirmed=85.the auction brought OVER $3,000 to the Dustin Zold
Kilbourn Scholarship Fund.

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:26:54 -0500 (EST)
To: 
From: 
Subject: Set complete!!

Hi all-

Two ebay finds this weekend bring my 1958 Topps set to a completion! Whitey
Ford and Braves Fence Busters will join their compadres in the binder
tonight. Thanks to everyone for all the help in finally getting this knocked
off after many years of building!

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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:28:19 -0500
To: grains@dccnet.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Dustin's Scholarship Fund- Final Tally

I could speak for my entire family but they won't let me:

My wife Phyl says "excellent performance"

My oldest Daughter says "you done good"

My middle daughter says "Grant rocks"

My youngest daughter says "war Grant"

I have no idea what that last one meant either, but I'm sure it's very
Since I am writing this I have the rare opportunity to get the last
word: awesome!

Thank You so much OBC! It sounds so inadequate, but will have to due for
now until I can think of a better way to express our gratitude.

We keep what we give away!

=================

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:39:49 +0000
From: "John Scott Gray" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] helmar thanks

My friends,

I have noticed, as the Dustin auction went on, that I am only getting about
one in every ten emails to the ramblings server.  I am not sure if this
problem extends to the other servers, but I thought I would echo previous
comments about the mail.  If it is something that I am doing wrong that
anyone knows how to fix, your help would be greatly appreciated!

Be happy,

John Scott Gray

>From: "ant" 
>To: "obc rambling" 
>Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] helmar thanks
>Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:01:07 -0500
>Hello All,
>Jim Beauchemin sends 9 hits to the set. I lost track with the flood of
>emails & think I only need 5 to complete. Not sure but that is also the fun
>of it

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To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:08:28 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: Auction Payments and shipping

For those of you who donated items please ship them to the winners ASAP.  No need to wait for verification of payment received.  We are all trustworthy.  However, I will keep a track of who paid and when.  Late payers run the risk of embarassing emails sent out to the group!

Payments for the DZK auction are coming in fast and furious.  There are many ways to pay.

Paypal - To treasurer@oldbaseball.com.  If you already sent payment to obcbobd@comcast.net, that's OK.  I will do a reconciliation between the two accounts.

Checks - Made out to me (I will then summarize into a single DZK check) or "DZK Memorial Fund" (might make sense for tax purposes).  DO NOT MAKE CHECKS OUT TO OBC!!!  The bank won't let me cash them and I will have to return them to you.

I will then combine all checks and paypal money received into a single check which will then be sent to the fund.

Below is an email from EEK which describes the fund in detail.

Thanks to everyone especially Grant!

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:25:40 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: twice-a-year UV interuption-- topps 2006

I haven't caught up on my email... it has been a hectic 2 days for me
for another time) but great work on the auction.  This is the best bunch of
guys ever.
The 2006 topps series 1 order form is in.  I need to know ASAP if I am
getting one case or two, so, if you want a box or two or three... it will be
$41 for a box + shipping.
For the new guys, I buy cases at a good price from a guy in NJ and I
send boxes out to OBCers at my cost.  This way I get the boxes really
cheap because I don't have to pay the $6+ for shipping :)
these are regular 36 pack boxes.   I just need to know now if you want
So, let me know as soon as possible... I have to email my connection
by Friday.
And now back to your regularly scheduled programming :)
Go OBC!

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:32:17 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "Daniel P Coen" 
Subject: Address Change - Auction Items

Hey all,

As I mentioned before, I am moving.  Please send any items (auction
winnings) to:

Dan Coen
410 First St.
Steilacoom, WA  98388

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:56:25 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: Dustin's Photo
From: DZKMem@webtv.net (Dustin Zold Kilbourn)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:49:24 -0500
To: Originaleek@webtv.net
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To: 
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:46:58 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Dustin Auction -- $10 lots are stil available

Here's my list of people who'd like to receive a $10 lot.  If I've omitted
you, let me know.   I can accomodate about another 30-40 lots so if you are
looking for an easy way to help out, here's one.

Contributor       How many?
1 Bill Malson            1
2 Neal Thomas         1
3 Greg Conway        2
4 Bob Saxton           1
5 Larry Gersbach     1
6 Erik Greenwood    2
7 John Leroux          2
8 Bob Corvello         2
9 Grant Rainsley       1
10 TJ Valacak          1

10 people / 14 lots

I'll repeat the offer for those who are interested:

> For a $10 contribution (sent to Bob Donaldson), I'll pull 10 Topps cards
> from my dupes box, one each from 1953-1962.  I'll do my best
> to send cards that you need.  Condition?   hahahaha.   BV?  Dunno.   I
> don't know if there will be stars in the grouping either
> but the more people that respond, the more generous I'll be.
> So send an email to me letting me know how many of these lots you want.  I
> can accomodate at least the first 50 requests.   That'd be
> cool -- we'd raise $500, I'd send out as many as 50 packages and I'd
> lighten the dupes box.
> Use these for your own sets, to start new sets or to have something in
> your dupes box.

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To: 
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:25:35 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: Christmas Open House in Lincoln, MA

We will be having a Christmas open house on Sunday the 18th from 1-5pm.  If any OBCers are in the area please feel free to drop by.

Bob Donaldson

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To: 
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:47:38 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: OBC Holiday Exchange Reminder

To those of you doing the OBC holiday exchange, please remember to get your gift in the mail by the end of this week so that it has plenty of time to make it to  the recipient.

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:45:06 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: How to ship anything

Thought the OBCers who've done uber-mailings would enjoy this essay on a small
business solution to mass mailing difficulties:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/HowToShipAnything.html

Can they somehow shrink this down to a single application for any computer and
printer? Yeah, it's 9am and I'm still dreaming.

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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:47:47 -0500
To: obc ramblings 
From: Squirrel 
Subject: No pc, No internet
Content-Disposition: inline

Well, my pc blew up like I stated before...but now I have no internet....so
I'll try to find out who won the auction items for Dustins auction and get
them out to them. So bare with a delay please.

--Scott 'Squirrel' Earle--

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To: 
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:49:54 -0800
From: "Grant" 
Subject: A Lesson Learned......

OBC Santa arrived in Vancouver today=85=85via Rhode Island. Funny, I always
thought Santa was a bit farther North than that=85=85.back to the books, I

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 09:54:39 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: Dustin speaks!

I continue to struggle with finding the words to adequately thank you
for all your support and the generosity you demonstrated in assisting us
in memoralizing my Son via the auction for the DZK Memorial Scholarship

Perhaps of greater importantance to us then the financial support for
the Fund were the prayers you offered up for Dustin and our family. I
want you to know: they worked!

Short of bringing Dustin back to us, we have experienced the greatest of
miracles that only prayers could have brought about. Dustin was involved
in a long and difficult battle for custody of his now 2 year old
daughter. Through a series of unusual events and circumstances Dustin's
daughter will arrive at my youngest daughter's house at 3:00pm today.
Although there are some hoops to jump through yet, Dustin's attorney is
very confident that Heather will be allowed to legally adopt Sha'Lynn at
some point.

Since we received the news of this placement on the 13th, we firmly
believe that Dustin, through God, orchestrated the miraculous chain of
events as an Anniversary present to my wife and I. We also believe that
the many prayers offered by family and friends inspired God to grant
Dustin's greatest request. Since I consider each of you both my family
and my friend, the power of your prayers were very influential in
bringing our granddaughter home to our family. Although we will continue
to miss our Son
greatly, a part of him will be with us within his daughter. THANK YOU!

We keep what we give away!

=================

Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:02:10 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
Subject: 3/24/81

Me again.
I would very much like to discover if there are any Hockey, Baseball & /
or Football players who share Dustin's birth date. Is there a website
that might have this information?

We keep what we give away!

=================

Date: 16 Dec 2005 15:24:16 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "obcjohn@knology.net" 
Subject: out of town

I will be in Memphis for the next few days with my mother.  All my auction
lots were mailed out this week and Bob Saxton's lot arrived yesterday.

Grant,  GREAT WORK.  Sgt. Preston would be proud.

=================

To: 
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:30:11 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: $10 lots for DZK auction -- UPDATE

1) I've received a total of 32 request for 10 card lots from these 18 guys.Anyone

Dan Angland 1
Greg Conway 3
Bob Corvello 2
Glenn Codere 2
Brian Dwyer 1
Larry Gersbach 1
Erik Greenwood 3
John Scott Gray 2
Rob Gioia 2
Todd Knowles 2
John Leroux 2
Bill Malson 1
Grant Rainsley 2
Bob Saxton 2
Neal Thomas 1
TJ Valacak 1
Father Pat 2
Jim Wiehe 2

I'm pulling cards today so let me know as soon as you can.

2) I'm going to run out of 1956 cards.   I'll have to come up with a substitute
for a few guys.  No danger of running out for any other year.

=================

To: Originaleek@webtv.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:31:06 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 3/24/81

Here's baseball;

http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/birthdays.cgi?month=3&day=24

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
> Me again.
> I would very much like to discover if there are any Hockey, Baseball & /
> or Football players who share Dustin's birth date. Is there a website
> that might have this information?
> We keep what we give away!
>                                        EEK
> Yahoo! Groups Links

=================

To: Originaleek@webtv.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:31:19 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 3/24/81

Here's baseball;

http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/birthdays.cgi?month=3&day=24

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Originaleek@webtv.net
> Me again.
> I would very much like to discover if there are any Hockey, Baseball & /
> or Football players who share Dustin's birth date. Is there a website
> that might have this information?
> We keep what we give away!
>                                        EEK
> Yahoo! Groups Links

=================

Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:03:31 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: ehpiii@aol.com
Subject: T222 Fatima

I have seen a few of the T222 Fatima on ebay for baseball teams, and I
understand that there are some track & field athletes in that set too.  Has anyone
ever seen one of the baseball and/or seen a good site for them  ?

=================

To: ,
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:27:08 -0800
From: "Dave Fallen" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T222 Fatima

Ed:  Wayne Delia has images of several T222s at http://www.deliafamily.net/BBCI/Control/ShowSet.php?setT222.

Another interesting web page is http://www.t207.com/t222.shtml.

-Dave Fallen
----- Original Message -----
From: ehpiii@aol.com
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:03 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T222 Fatima

I have seen a few of the T222 Fatima on ebay for baseball teams, and I understand
that there are some track & field athletes in that set too.  Has anyone
ever seen one of the baseball and/or seen a good site for them  ?

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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:06:01 -0500 (EST)
To: 
From: 
Subject: 1959 Fleer Question

Hi guys-

Another round of "Ask the OBC experts"

After an incoming ebay lot, my 1959 Ted Williams Fleer set is down to three
cards. I think I can find #17—How Ted Hit .400 and #75—Williams Value to the
Red Sox fairly easily on ebay or through trades, and I know the toughest
card, #68—Jan. 23, 1959 – Ted Signs for 1959, is short-printed and hard to
find, with my fakes. The questions I have are: how hard is it to find, what
price range should I expect, and is there a good way to spot a fake? I
really want to finish this set, so I will probably start looking hard for
thsi card, and am looking for some suggestions. Thanks,

=================

To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:09:26 -0800
From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" 
Subject: Helmar Wants and Availables

Here is my Helmar wantlist and what I have available.

Kaoru Betto

Anderson (2)
Bell (3)
Chapman (scratched)
Dalager (5)
Evers (3)
Foster (3)
Kawakami (scratched)

Jenkins (3)
Knox (2) (scratched)
Schmelling (2)
Sharkey (2)

=================

To: "Ramblings" 
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:08:43 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Wow..Had to tell someone

As you may know I'm kind of a Jefferson Burdick fan. After about 2 years ofpatience
I have now picked up the American Card Catalog editions of 1946, 1953,
1956, 1960 and 1967. The only out there is a looseleaf 1939 edition which
will not be easy. The selling prices of these things on ebay have beenall
over the board since there isn't a price guide as such for this stuff.If
you are interested in these, you don't have to pay too much. Something reasonable
will show up.
George Vrechek
=================

Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:14:52 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: JEdward@aol.com
Subject: Positive Feedback...

I would like to thank Larry Gersbach for the super prompt receipt of one of
my winning lots, a beautiful 1969 Topps card of Rod Carew.  Actually,  I got
the card last Thursday, I hadn't even started thinking about it yet.   Thanks

OBC, it's an  attitude

http://hometown.aol.com/jedward/myhomepage/index.html

=================

To: "obc" 
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:36:24 -0600
From: "ken goetsch" 
Subject: health update

As many of you know......I had 3 surgeries this past Sept/October, and my kidneys
quit working, so I had to go on dialysis.

Well after 2 months at home recovering.......I finally got the ok to go back
to work on Monday.....WHOOOOO HHHOOOOO........
Saturday at dialysis....I found out my kidneys have been coming back........and
I am being taken OFF dialysis too.
My kidneys are still somewhat damaged......and will always be...but the good
news is with a bland diet, no drinking, no chips or "stuff" like that [sounds
pretty boring]
I can still live a full life.

I still 1 more surgery to take down my colostomy bag........this should happen
sometime in February.....I thought this was going to be the hardest thing
to adjust to....but no sweat....its a piece of cake, compared to what I went
thru........so if anybody in the future gets 1.....its not that big ofa
Thanks to all, who sent me get well wishes, get well cards, and of course the
great power of those collecting cards we all share a love for.

Too bad only a couple of weeks left in the NFL season..........as I feel really
good....and probably could make my Packers roster........ya right.

My employer could not have been more supportive......

THX again to all.
Ken Goetsch-OBC

=================

Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:57:51 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: Some Availables.

I am finally able to get some sorting done and file away some
purchases from the last month.  Consequently, I have a number of
availables that I would like to get rid of. A lot of the cards have
soft corners and some creasing.  I'll post some of the earlier ones
below.  More to come later in the week......hopefully.  If your
interested, send me an email with your address.  Thanks and have a
great holiday!

1959:  488 241 195

1961:  424  507

1963:  19  26  49  79  80  102 186  330

1964:  24  39  42  52  62 66 104 105 108 114 123 166 179 183 198 206
207 261 275 319 326 345 361 383

1965:  23 25 26 28 37 42 47 49 52 63 68 71 75 83 84 86 87 102 106
108 152 171 174 186 196 224 225 227 228 229 246 265 291 319 344 394
454 464 488 520 588

1966:  20 40 41 131 152 318 331 355 370 426

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:08:12 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "malsman250" 
Subject: Eureka! Santa lands in Ohio

Santa package arrived safe and sound in Canton, with Eureka CA
postmark. As directed, opening will be delayed......

=================

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:06:32 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: Really cool "vintage" cards

I can't help it, but I just think these things are sooo cool.  Here
are some Topps '05 Fan Favorites that  you guys might like.   These
are all dupes, so if you want one of these, let me know.  Freehan,
Frank Robby, Erskine, Banks,Seaver,Lonborg,Dave Johnson,Dale
Murphy,Grote,Snider,Pesky,Carew,Reggie,Cepeda...  they are cool,
take a look...  I think the '67 Lonborg is the coolest!

http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cards/fanfav1.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cards/fanfav2.JPG

=================

Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 05:39:45 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: Ruth & Cobb lot on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/1921-1924-w515-w516-2-2-w551-babe-ruth-ty-cobbs_W0QQitemZ8740883953QQcategoryZ31719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's a decent group of several Ruth & Cobb strip cards. Seller has very high
feedback, so maybe this is legit? Anyway, they're OBC-grade for sure.

Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:24:09 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "T.J. Valacak" 
Subject: Arizona

I will be heading to Tucson, Arizona on Friday to clebrate the
Holidays with my in-laws.  I am wondering if anyone in the group is
nearby, or if anyone in the group can point me in teh direction of a
good card shop.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:35:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "toppsrun368@peoplepc.com" 
Subject: 1955 Bowman FB Lot on evilbay

Saw this for a $0.01 Buy It Now.  Maybe someone can use them.  With shipping it works out to fifty cents a card.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=8741394603&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

=================

Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:56:05 EST
To: OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com,
From: biggies@aol.com
Subject: 1970 to 1973 sets added

In my continued effort to get to 1970 to present in Topps baseball sets for
my children I am posting new lists for 1970, 71, 72 and 73.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Happy New Year!!

Bob Bannon

=================

To: 
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:59:21 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Cool article on 1952 Topps

Check it out:   http://1952toppsbaseballcards.com/Home.htm#Manufacturing

Question -- If I want to print out scans and put them in my album, is it sufficient
to print on plain white paper?  Or do I need to print or affix to something
heavier like card stock?  Thanks.

Steve Rittenberg
=================

To: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" ,
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:10:16 -0000
From: "geno.wagner" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

I think you should print them on card stock and then get them graded by NASA...

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Rittenberg (Earthlink)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Check it out:   http://1952toppsbaseballcards.com/Home.htm#Manufacturing

Question -- If I want to print out scans and put them in my album, is it sufficient
to print on plain white paper?  Or do I need to print or affix to
something heavier like card stock?  Thanks.

Steve Rittenberg

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To: geno.wagner@ntlworld.com
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:20:46 -0500
From: Bob Saxton 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Or send them to Mexico and have them graded by NAFTA...

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:10:16 -0000 "geno.wagner"
 writes:
I think you should print them on card stock and then get them graded by

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Rittenberg (Earthlink)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Check it out:   http://1952toppsbaseballcards.com/Home.htm#Manufacturing

Question -- If I want to print out scans and put them in my album, is it
sufficient to print on plain white paper?  Or do I need to print or affix
to something heavier like card stock?  Thanks.

Steve Rittenberg

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To: 
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 18:48:06 -0500
From: "Rick & Deb" 
Subject: Santa arrival

OBC Friends...a package from "OBC Santa" was delivered to our house in
Bethlehem (The Christmas City).  The sender provided no clues as to it's
origin.  The Post Office revealed the zip code, but that didn't help much.
My fingers are itchin' and a-twitchin'.  I'll be a good boy though.  I'll
wait until 12:00:01 Sunday to open it.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all of you, my friends.
Thanx...Rick Svetecz...The Itchiest Phillies Fan in the whole USA (Ph06)

=================

To: 
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:45:19 -0500
From: "Joe Greco" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

We could always send them offshore to be graded by Sanjay.

From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Saxton
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:21 AM
To: geno.wagner@ntlworld.com
Cc: srittenberg66@earthlink.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Or send them to Mexico and have them graded by NAFTA...

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:10:16 -0000 "geno.wagner" 

I think you should print them on card stock and then get them graded by

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve   Rittenberg (Earthlink)

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:59 PM

Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Check it out:   http://1952toppsbaseballcards.com/Home.htm#Manufacturing

Question -- If I want to print out scans and put them in my album, is it
sufficient to print on plain white paper?  Or do I need to print or affix to
something heavier like card stock?  Thanks.

Steve Rittenberg

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To: "obc Ramblings" 
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:43:48 -0700
From: "Walker" 
Subject: Cool article      - - -      Bad Gradings

Please, whatever you do, don't send them to FEMA.  If you ever do get them back,
it wont be for a long, long time !!!

----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Greco
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

We could always send them offshore to be graded by Sanjay.

From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Saxton
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 11:21 AM
To: geno.wagner@ntlworld.com
Cc: srittenberg66@earthlink.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Or send them to Mexico and have them graded by NAFTA...

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:10:16 -0000 "geno.wagner" writes:

I think you should print them on card stock and then get them graded by NASA...

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Rittenberg (Earthlink)

To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 3:59 PM

Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Cool article on 1952 Topps

Check it out:   http://1952toppsbaseballcards.com/Home.htm#Manufacturing

Question -- If I want to print out scans and put them in my album, is it
sufficient to print on plain white paper?  Or do I need to print or affixto
something heavier like card stock?  Thanks.

Steve Rittenberg

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To: 
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:08:57 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Listen to a Christmas Carol -- free!

I'm listening to a free podcast of "A Christmas Carol" by Dickens.   Ain't technology

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4532526.stm

=================

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:36:45 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "mikesportsfan" 
Subject: Set info needed

I recently picked up some 1999 Barry Halper Collection of BB
Memorabilia card #s 1-14.  Anyone know how many are in the set?  Not
that it matters, but I am a little curious as to value.  Neat photos.
Mike Rich

=================

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 02:26:13 EST
To: Mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Set info needed

15 cards in the set...here is one for sale on ebay...

_http://cgi.ebay.com/Topps-Sotheby-Halper-Set-15-Mantle-Ruth-Mays-DiMaggio_W0Q
(http://cgi.ebay.com/Topps-Sotheby-Halper-Set-15-Mantle-Ruth-Mays-DiMaggio_W0QQitemZ5

As an aside, Barry passed away this past week. He really did a lot for this
hobby and his collection was fantastic.

=================

To: "OCT" ,
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 05:57:25 -0600
From: "Shawn Adkins" 
Subject: Merry CHRISTmas

Wishing everyone a very Merry CHRISTmas.  It is my hope that each of us has
received the true "gift" of CHRISTmas.  In our brightest times or our
darkest hours, I'm so thankful that we never have to go it alone.

Happy Birthday Jesus

=================

To: 
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 13:38:19 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: OBC Xmas Gift !

Merry Christmas to all.

My OBC santa, Andy Cook, sent some great type cards.  I had to pull out the SCD guide to describe waht they are.  First a trio of Helmars, a 63 Fleer of Smokey Burgess, a 51 Johnston cookies Bob Buhl, a 1949 M&P of Ferris Fain and a W515-1 strip card of Clarence Walker.

Thanks Andy I mean Santa!
Thanks OBC!!!

=================

Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 14:41:06 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: trufan999@aol.com
Subject: 2006 Happenings...

Just a quick ramble to all the members that I hope everyone is having a  safe
and warm Holiday season. I didn't see any major winter storms heading my
way, so my area of Ohio is being blasted with a balmy 40 degrees and light mist.

I also am excited to announce that some of my recent absence from sending
and posting has been due to an extensive blast of career shock. It all began as
I was completing my busy soccer refereeing schedule from Aug-Oct. time frame
when the company I work for needed all of the managers to attend a 3 day
banquet  and training spree just outside of Chicago. From there chaos hit, as I
was lead  around by my boss to leaders of the company and to shorten this part
of the  story. I found out upon my return to Ohio that I was being prescreened
for a  promotion. Within weeks I had two District managers calling me asking
me if I  was interested in moving to their district. As of the beginning of
December I  had chosen one area as they had a job that is sounding very promising
to me with  a start date as Feb. 1 2006... My new location is home to the
World Series  Champs.... Chicago.
In the mean time I am getting ready for all the wonderful things that go
along with a transfer with family and young kids. I will be living in Chicago
area for a couple of months before the rest my "crew" catches up with me. (If
all goes well with finding a house and selling ours, about Spring Break.) It
looks like we will be looking for homes in the Woodstock area, (north of the
city) and I will be working in Lake Forest.

Any suggestions from those in the know are always appreciated

Have a great Holiday
John Leroux

=================

To: 
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:17:37 -0600
From: "Mark Z" 
Subject: secret santa

secret santa came through with 4 team cards from 1961, 2 69 topps deckle, and
a 67? topps poster of drysdale.

nice mixed lot, thank you very much?

not sure who it was from Cambridge MA...if anyone has any clues, please letme

thanks again..

=================

To: 
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:49:23 -0600
From: "Mark Z" 
Subject: need John Riggins

inspired by Steve Rittenberg with his 75T and another guy with his 71FB, I am
going to start a John Riggins notebook with a full page of each card...

so....if anyone has any 72-79 they can trade me, please let me know.

thanks, Mark
=================

Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:15:59 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: directorth@aol.com
Subject: My wife, the comedian

A Helmar Christmas ramble......

Back in November, I opened my 2 cases of Helmar caramel corn - and ended up
with only about 25 different cards. Of course, thanks to everyone at OBC, that
set is now complete. However, I never let the little woman know the set was
done (I kept her informed as to the progress of the set as I received cards from
the group, but neglected to tell her when it was put to bed.) So - fast
forward to Christmas......and I find that she bought me 2 more cases of Helmar corn
& chips in order to finish the set (bless her heart). So, I'm either going to
start a second set, or I'll have a ton of dupes to spread around (well, you
know how the Helmar cards are - I'll have a ton of dupes anyway. I've already
opened al of the caramel corn bags & ended up with a large bunch of Ball,
Weaver, & Radcliffe cards, among others.)

Here's where the "my wife the comedian" part comes up: she and my daughters
took the time to wrap EACH INDIVIDUAL BAG!! They thought it would be funny (it
was, gotta admit that), but they thought it would take me most of the day to
take the wrapping paper off of the snack bags. Wrong! They had another reason
to holiday wrap the bags too - they took the 2 cases (one caramel corn, one
chips), & mixed the bags up so I theoretically wouldn't know if I was gonna grab
a bag of corn or a bag of chips from the case.

A funny thing about the bad collation too: I mentioned getting a bunch of
Weaver, Ball, & Radcliffe cards; of course those three were in a bunch of the
packs together. The funny thing is - in almost every one, Weaver was on top,
Radcliffe in the middle, & Ball in the back AND the Radcliffe card was always
upside down! It got to be so predictable that I'd open them with the backs facing
up, with Cherie standing there, & name the cards before I even saw the fronts!

Enough for now, hope all of you out there have a restful Monday as I head to
work to make magical TV shows.

=================

To: "OBC Ramblings" 
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:20:57 -0800
From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" 
Subject: 2005 Year In Review

Not to steal any of Glenn's thunder, but I have always enjoyed his recaps,
so I thought I would do one of my own.

2005 In Review

This was a year of completing and almost completing sets for me.   I was
able to knock off 1970 and 1971 Topps sets, 1977 and 1980 OPC sets.  I also
brought my 68, 69 and 72 Topps sets within reach.  My 62 Bell Brand set
stands at one card from completion, and my 1960 Fleer set needs a mere two
cards.  I have a total of sixteen sets within ten cards of completion.

This has also been a year of considering the reality of completing sets.  I
have vacillated about which sets to collect, and which sets to use as trade
bait. I sent out over 100 T206's in trades, traded away my 63 Topps partial
set, and gave up on about ten other sets.  I will probably do more of the
same this year as I take a closer look at two or three additional sets.

I caught the type-card bug and started a couple of folders.  I also followed
the lead of a number of OBC'ers that have a HOF folder with a card from the
HOF'ers playing / managing career.

The last item of note is that I became really interested in Brian
Lindholme's 1971 Topps Football and Steve Rittenberg's 1975 Topps
multi-sets.  I started a 1978 Topps version of the project where I am
attempting to complete nine 1978 sets.  That is the year I started
collecting, and the set has always been one of my favorites.

What's in store for 2006:

This will probably be the year of Mantle for me.  I will try to pick of one
or two per month, as budget permits, to assess whether I can complete my
remaining sets.

I will try and close my ten and under sets which stands at sixteen: 1975 &
1977 Twinkies, 1960-1962 Bell Brand, 1960 & 1963 Fleer, My Jim Rice
Collection, 1968, 1969 & 1972 Topps, 1953 Color Bowman, T218 & T220 sets

I am going to add the following sets to my wantlist (these will probably be
the last sets I add):

1909-11 T205
1953 Topps
1934-36 Diamond Stars

As well as a number of non-sport sets (saved for another server)

I hope everyone has a Happy New Year, and I look forward to meeting some of
you in Anaheim this year.

Erik Greenwood

=================

Date: 27 Dec 2005 15:20:52 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "obcjohn@knology.net" 
Subject: Collecting Goals for 2006

Another year has come and gone, and it's time to how I faired on my 2005
collecting goals.  A usual I hit some and fell short on others (don't we
all). Prewar-wise, I made headway on a couple of sets, cutting the 41 Goudey
list from 6 to 3, the 33 Canadian Goudey list from 5 to 2, the Tattoo Orbit
list from 9 to 5 (good movie title)and the 35 Goudey list from 11 to 2,
surpassing my goals for all these sets.  I'd like to finish at least the 41
and 35 Goudeys and the Canadian Goudey set.  The Tattoo Orbits are going to
be tough as these cards rarely show up nonslabbed and affordable.

Postwar, I fell way short as I had hoped to knock at least 500 cards from
the Topps 52-80 run (only knocked off about 250) and knocked only a 100 or
so off the 48-55 Bowman run.  As usual bats were the main culprit as I added
about a dozen or so 19th and early 20th century models to the collection. My
prize was a Honus Wagner decal bat from around 1920 (most of the decal is gone).

As for 2006, given the goals of the past year, I'm looking at more modest
goals: another 250 hits to the Topps run and another 100 hits to the Bowman
run. As for Prewar, I'll try to finish the 3 sets I mentioned and turn
attention to the Batter up set, close to 2/3 done, t205's (sneaking up on
the halfway point), and the 41 Double Play set, probably the easiest set I
have on the prewar list. I'd like to get to the 3/4 mark on the Batter Ups,
the 1/2 mark on the 205's and aim for the 1/2 mark on the Double Plays.

Thanks to all who sent cardboard this way in 2005 or who took the time to
look at my lists.  May all your mail have that wonderful smell of old cardboard.

Happy New Year and have an error-free season.

=================

To: 
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:17:31 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Collecting Goals for 2006

Hmm.  The year is not quite over.  Anyone else up for the challenge of a
coordinated push to send Bama 200-300 cards this week?   Im not in front of
my cards at the moment so I can't say exactly what I have for him but it
should be substantial.  His lists are NOT ridiculously tough and he has NO
condition requirements.

Here's a link to his lists:  http://www.webspawner.com/users/obcjohn/

----- Original Message -----
From: obcjohn@knology.net
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Collecting Goals for 2006

Another year has come and gone, and it's time to how I faired on my 2005
collecting goals.  A usual I hit some and fell short on others (don't we
all). Prewar-wise, I made headway on a couple of sets, cutting the 41 Goudey
list from 6 to 3, the 33 Canadian Goudey list from 5 to 2, the Tattoo Orbit
list from 9 to 5 (good movie title)and the 35 Goudey list from 11 to 2,
surpassing my goals for all these sets.  I'd like to finish at least the 41
and 35 Goudeys and the Canadian Goudey set.  The Tattoo Orbits are going to
be tough as these cards rarely show up nonslabbed and affordable.

Postwar, I fell way short as I had hoped to knock at least 500 cards from
the Topps 52-80 run (only knocked off about 250) and knocked only a 100 or
so off the 48-55 Bowman run.  As usual bats were the main culprit as I added
about a dozen or so 19th and early 20th century models to the collection. My
prize was a Honus Wagner decal bat from around 1920 (most of the decal is

As for 2006, given the goals of the past year, I'm looking at more modest
goals: another 250 hits to the Topps run and another 100 hits to the Bowman
run. As for Prewar, I'll try to finish the 3 sets I mentioned and turn
attention to the Batter up set, close to 2/3 done, t205's (sneaking up on
the halfway point), and the 41 Double Play set, probably the easiest set I
have on the prewar list. I'd like to get to the 3/4 mark on the Batter Ups,
the 1/2 mark on the 205's and aim for the 1/2 mark on the Double Plays.

Thanks to all who sent cardboard this way in 2005 or who took the time to
look at my lists.  May all your mail have that wonderful smell of old

Happy New Year and have an error-free season.

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=================

Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:23:13 -0800 (PST)
To: obc ramblings 
From: Matthew 
Subject: Another collecting year wrap-up

All sorts of hits came in this year, spread across the #5 type collection and
the main wantlist. Hoped to finish off the 33 Goudey and 1969 team poster
sets--got the latter, and pretty close on the former.

Elements of note:

1) 33 Goudeys are down to only two non-Ruth, non-Lajoie cards!
2) 1969 Topps stamps are down to one!
3) Finished off an all-OBC 1978 Topps set!
4) Picked up another bushel of Garvey, Spike Owen, David Segui, and Jamie Quirk
5) Added 33 new #5s to the type collection, including the earliest cataloged
#5, the 1910 Tip-Top Pirates (Tom Leach)!
6) Got my last 1969 Topps team poster (Red Sox)!

There were a lot of life events that pushed card collecting hither and yon, but
things are settling down in the new condo now. Go OBC!

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To: 
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:59:23 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Great website for baseball articles

I stumbled upon this site today.   Now I can fill my free time before January
1 and Spring Training.   http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/wtny/index.php

=================

To: 
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:07:36 -0800
From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" 
Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Collecting Goals for 2006

I'm game; mark the following off Bama's list:

51 Bowman - 18, 159, 174, 177, 222

53 Topps - 102 & 194

55 Bowman - 58, 62, 167, 186, 193

Erik Greenwood

-----Original Message-----
From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Steve Rittenberg (Earthlink)
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 8:18 AM
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Cc: John Harrell
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Collecting Goals for 2006

Hmm.  The year is not quite over.  Anyone else up for the challenge of a
coordinated push to send Bama 200-300 cards this week?   Im not in front of
my cards at the moment so I can't say exactly what I have for him but it
should be substantial.  His lists are NOT ridiculously tough and he has NO
condition requirements.

Here's a link to his lists:  http://www.webspawner.com/users/obcjohn/

----- Original Message -----
From: obcjohn@knology.net
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:20 AM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Collecting Goals for 2006

Another year has come and gone, and it's time to how I faired on my 2005
collecting goals.  A usual I hit some and fell short on others (don't we
all). Prewar-wise, I made headway on a couple of sets, cutting the 41 Goudey
list from 6 to 3, the 33 Canadian Goudey list from 5 to 2, the Tattoo Orbit
list from 9 to 5 (good movie title)and the 35 Goudey list from 11 to 2,
surpassing my goals for all these sets.  I'd like to finish at least the 41
and 35 Goudeys and the Canadian Goudey set.  The Tattoo Orbits are going to
be tough as these cards rarely show up nonslabbed and affordable.

Postwar, I fell way short as I had hoped to knock at least 500 cards from
the Topps 52-80 run (only knocked off about 250) and knocked only a 100 or
so off the 48-55 Bowman run.  As usual bats were the main culprit as I added
about a dozen or so 19th and early 20th century models to the collection. My
prize was a Honus Wagner decal bat from around 1920 (most of the decal is

As for 2006, given the goals of the past year, I'm looking at more modest
goals: another 250 hits to the Topps run and another 100 hits to the Bowman
run. As for Prewar, I'll try to finish the 3 sets I mentioned and turn
attention to the Batter up set, close to 2/3 done, t205's (sneaking up on
the halfway point), and the 41 Double Play set, probably the easiest set I
have on the prewar list. I'd like to get to the 3/4 mark on the Batter Ups,
the 1/2 mark on the 205's and aim for the 1/2 mark on the Double Plays.

Thanks to all who sent cardboard this way in 2005 or who took the time to
look at my lists.  May all your mail have that wonderful smell of old

Happy New Year and have an error-free season.

YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web.

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Yahoo! Groups Links

=================

To: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" ,
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:05:27 -0000
From: "geno.wagner" 
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great website for baseball articles

Steve --

Great site!  I just read the article under Designated Hitters about Rick Monday
- it was a great read for a Cubs and a Dodgers fan!  I forgot that theCubbies
got Billy Buck and Ivan DeJesus for Monday.  Of course DeJesus wasthe
ultimate trade later on when the Cubbies picked up Bowa and Ryno for him.
I always liked the Cubs outfield back then - Monday, Cardenal, and Morales.
Morales always made those basket catches, Cardenal had that big smile
and huge hair, and Monday seemed like a guy I could appreciate.  With Madlock
at third, Trillo at second and that power platoon of Dave Rosello and Mick
Kelleher at short, how could the Cubbies lose the pennant?  I mean we had
Rueschel, Bonham, Burris, and Renko on the hill!  I always liked when the
Expos or Padres were in town - we could beat them.  No way could we compete
with Stargell and Co., Schmidt and Luzinski, or Bench/Rose/Perez/Morgan(did
those guys even have pitchers?)...

Ahhh, the memories...

Did I mention Bob Avellini handing the ball off to Walter Payton with Noah Jackson
pulling out front?  Oh my, I need to get back stateside and get a refresher...

Take Care, Geno

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Rittenberg (Earthlink)
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:59 PM
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Great website for baseball articles

I stumbled upon this site today.   Now I can fill my free time before January
1 and Spring Training.   http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/wtny/index.php

YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS

a..  Visit your group "OBC-Ramblings" on the web.

b..  To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

c..  Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

=================

Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:42:03 EST
To: geno.wagner@ntlworld.com, srittenberg66@earthlink.net,
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Great website for baseball articles

In a message dated 12/27/2005 11:09:45 AM Pacific Standard Time,
geno.wagner@ntlworld.com writes:

Of  course DeJesus was the ultimate trade later on when the Cubbies picked up
Bowa  and Ryno for him.

yeah...great...that was a wonderful trade...phillies did a bang up job on
that one...although we did go to the world series the next year....

=================

Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:30:55 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Wite3@aol.com
Subject: Wantlist update

Been a busy year so far and finally got a chance to update my wantlists on
the server. I usually update the main list every couple of months and the
Phillies list twice a year (does not change all that much) but the last month  has
seen some great additions to both lists so I figured I better get it updated
(7 months since last update). So, I added the 1948 Swell Sports Thrills set
to  my wantlist. I knocked 13 lines off the Phillies list in the last 8 months
(did  not think that much but some key oddball issues fell into my hands).

Take care all,

=================

To: 
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:46:07 -0500
From: "Steve Rittenberg \(Earthlink\)" 
Subject: Doug Smith news

I hung up from a phone call with Doug Smith a couple of minutes ago.  He's holding
up well, given the circumstances.   He enters prison on January 9thand
has given me his mailing address there in Fort Worth.   I'll pass it along
to anyone who asks though I don't think its something to go onto the server.
Doug has been doing lots of reading about life there and has also met
former inmates who are in the treatment programs he's been in.   After he
gave me his address he did say explicitly "no cards".   Any kind of enclosure,
even a newspaper clipping won't reach Doug, so we unfortunately, we wont
be sending him any cards to help him fill his time.

He also let me know that he's put a package of stuff in the mail to me, to be
used for future auctions.   He wasn't particular whether its used today (for
the DZK auction) or in the future so when I get it, I'll try to parcelit
out as best as possible.

Lastly, Doug told me he appreciates all the support he's received from us.

=================

Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:04:01 -0800 (PST)
To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Chris Stufflestreet 
Subject: I'm in a quandry and could use some advice...

This has absolutley nothing to do with cards, the
hobby or collecting.  I'm hoping that the
wide-reaching net of my OBC brethren can help me to
catch even a little bit of advice.

Now something I may be considering for 2006. Ellen has
told me occasionally over the past few years that she
really wants to leave Florida. I have been able to
fend off the argument for all this time, saying that
we'd be crazy to leave the Sunshine State and have to
deal with snow and winter again. After her mother
moved down here last year, I figured she'd stop
feeling that way. Well, it turned out I was wrong.

Last summer's trip to Chicago seemed to leave a nice
impression on Ellen, because now she wants to move
there. Most likely, one of its suburbs. Thre's more to
do there, she says.  Better schools for Melissa, a
change of seasons and houses with basements.  Since
Comcast is there, it shouldn't be hard to transfer
(and if I play it right I may be able to get promoted
to a better position, and there's one open now in
Elgin, Ill.) and with Ellen being a special ed
teacher, she can work just about anywhere. Plus, if I
still decide to become a freelance writer, Ellen
argues that I'd be able to make more contacts there
than here in Jacksonville.  And you all know that
Ellen was pretty quick about pointing out that I'd be
able to attend a lot more card shows if we moved to
the area.

In the past, I simply countered with the facts that we
both had good jobs, Melissa was doing well in school
and we should consider ourselves lucky to be in
Florida without having to retire first. This time, I'm
not sure if I want to bother arguing. I'm still in the
same position at work I've held for the past 6 years
-- with little chance of moving up -- and I'm not so
sure anymore that Melissa would have a hard time
adjusting to the change.

Then there's the fact that when I decided to leave New
York almost 10 years ago, Ellen didn't want to go. We
were separated for 5 months but she decided to come
down and live with me. I've never forgotten that she
dropped her Masters' studies (which she still hasn't
finished) to save our marriage and know that I owe her
the opportunity to make a similar change.

So, any thoughts? Better yet...any ideas of where I
should start gathering info about moving there?
Nothing (save getting that supervisor job in Elgin)
will be done before May (and probably much later if
that), so I have time. My move to Florida was planned
in 2 days -- this was pre-Melissa -- but I don't want
another one to be so rash. The move from NY required
giving away all our bigger furniture, moving
everything else into storage and taking all that I
could fit into an Army duffel bag. I hitched a ride
with family and they just dropped me off in a parking
lot here in Jax. After that, I still had to drive up
there the next summer to get everything out of
storage. This time, I want to be more prepared.

I know several OBC guys live around Chicago.  Maybe
you have pointers for me...though I'm firm on the
point that I won't be moving anywhere unless I have a
decent job waiting for me.  I know I'll have to deal
with winter again, but the winters in the Chicago
suburbs can't be any worse than what I dealt with
growing up in the barren God's Country I knew as
Carthage, NY.  I'm just looking to explore all my
options and would appreciate any help I can get.

Take care,

I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards.  To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html

Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/

=================

To: Chris Stufflestreet , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:16:42 +0000
From: obcbobd@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I'm in a quandry and could use some advice...

Chicago - 2 MLB teams
Jacksonville - 0 MLB Teams

Choice seems easy to me!

=================

To: "Chris Stufflestreet" 
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:20:59 -0600
From: "George Vrechek" 
Subject: Elgin Chicago

just got home and read your note. i think the change of seasons is a good thing
and the Chicago area has been a good place for my family - although the
kids all moved away.

Since commuting around any big city can be a hassle, I'd get the job first and
then figure out where to live. Elgin is a bit out there in at least my narrow
geography book. I live and work downtown. It takes me about 10 minutes
to bus to work or 25 minutes to walk, but families with school-aged kidsare
generally in the 'burbs. We lived in Oak Park for 30 years which is similar
to Evanston and similar to being in the city neighborhoods. I took the
El'. If you work downtown then you need to be near the train system. But if
you are driving to Elgin, you might as well try to avoid driving too far.
Two established areas with good schools in the "greater Elgin area" are St.
Charles and Barrington. Their housing prices are usually high. If you look
north or west of Elgin you will be more in the country but at less cost.
There is even a place to the west of Elgin called Sun City in Huntley forretirees.
Although I don't think the sun shines there any more than it does
in the loop. Algonquin has a lot of newer suburban housing. I've probablybeen
in Elgin once in my life and in Algonquin twice so I would definitelyrecruit
someone more familiar with the area.

The only regular card show in the Chicago area is in Orland Park which is distant
from everywhere unless you live in Orland Park. The other shows, as you
know, are usually in Rosemont which isn't a bad ride from Elgin. I'll bet
there is a storefront in Elgin just looking for a card dealer.

George Vrechek

PS Any additional activity/thoughts on Lionel Carter's book project?
=================

Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:07:13 +0800
To: OBC-Ramblings 
From: Lynn Miller 
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Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:58:03 EST
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com
From: friar4@aol.com
Subject: Availables

Quite a few changes in my have /  want / availables lists  lately.
The availables can be found at the bottom of the lists. Guys I owe get  first
shot, but don't be shy about making a claim or proposing a trade.

_http://www.geocities.com/robertcorvello/Old_Friar_Collection.html_
(http://www.geocities.com/robertcorvello/Old_Friar_Collection.html)

=================

Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:38:35 -0500
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: Sean McGowan 
Subject: mantle check lists and '70 highs

Dear OBC'ers,
I'm looking for people who are down to less than 50 or so on
their lists for '70 , '69, or '67 who need the following....

'67 #103 (mantle 3nd series checklist)
'69 #412 (mantle 5th series checklist)
'70 # 651,664,673,688,689,704

I want to hit some sort lists...   Thanks :)

=================

To: "OCT" ,
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:18:04 -0600
From: "Shawn Adkins" 
Subject: They're back

Since many have asked, my lists are now back online again.  You might notice
a slight change as I have reevaluated my future collecting efforts.  I hope
everyone has a safe celebration tonight.

Happy New Year,

http://www.showmesavants.com/baseball

=================

Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 05:21:48 -0000
To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com
From: "xtrjmx" 
Subject: BREAKING NEWS -- '68 SET FINISHED!!!

Hi all... OK, I'm not sure whether to post this in Thanks or Rambles
so it's going in both. JUST in the nick of time, local trader MJ Carol
(who some of you old-timers may remember) gives me a call and offers
to trade his '68 Frank Robinson to me, as he knew it was the last one
I needed for my set! Two hours later he delivers the final card for my
first completed set from the '60s!! I started the set back in '93,
just before I joined OBC, with a handful of cards that were left after
I had helped a guy from my church sell off his boyhood collection. No
one wanted the '68s (or the '70 Topps football cards) because they
were in "too poor of shape". I loved 'em and so when he gave me the
option of keeping them or throwing them away, I started my first
Tipton set. As I look at the cards, I think back over the great
contributions from this group and so many wonderful stories that have
happened along the way to completion (I'll see if I can find my old
posting for the Fu Manchu Mays that graces the set). At any rate, more
thanks to JSG for the awesome trade for that pesky Koosman rookie, and
all the others who have contributed. I'm happy! :-)

While I'm delighting in the completion of the '68 set, I wanted to
thank Steve Rittenberg for opening his doors to me and providing
respite from my inlaws last Monday. While the break itself would have
been more than wonderful, anyone who has passed through his doors
knows that it is quite literally impossible to leave without being
blessed with a stash of cardboard gold. While I don't have the boxes
(yes, boxes!) of cards in front of me, I clearly remember him handing
me a big package with a 1958 Mickey Mantle All-Star card (GULP!!!),
the '58 Yanks team card (gulp, again!), a slew of nonsport cards for
my typecard collection, and a batch of spectacular off-beat Twins and
an oh-so-cool Christopher Benjamin nonsport card guide that has many
of the bread, food, and candy issues listed in detail!! That was a
nice starter (yeah, right!!!). Next, he lulls me into conversation
about nonsport and before I know it he has handed me a near-set of '66
Batman cards and a trio of Goudey Pirate Pictures cards for my son,
Ben, a wonderful starter set of Topps Look N See for my daughter,
Sarah, and adds in a small stack of T29 Hassan Animal cards that I
just started thanks to the DZK auction. Next, we started hitting the
short UV list for my Secret Santa recipient (who will soon receive his
supplement to the first package sent). Somehow, the focus on his list
led to Steve insisting on me helping him "organize" his cards. His
idea of organizing is doling them out by the handful to me. He kept
telling me about all the postage he was saving by my taking them now.
It was all I could do to reach over his shoulder, push him out of the
way and let me enjoy the pleasure of bidding on a final card for his
hockey set. I enjoyed winning the card for him just about as much as I
enjoyed the stack of cardboard (and other stuff) he shared. Sometime
in the middle of our cardboard endeavors we enjoyed the best deal on
pizza in town. Of course the best part of the day was just getting a
chance to visit and share more good times with a good friend. My only
regret for the day was that it was too short and I didn't even get a
chance to peruse through some of his amazing collection. Next time
I'll have to clear a few days for visiting, rather than just one.
Thanks so much, Steve!! (Why is it that I'm ALWAYS certain I've missed
something when posting thanks to him despite a Morganti-esque length

Well all, I just saw the ball drop on TV in NYC so HAPPY NEW YEAR to
all! I hope that 2006 is the best of years for all of you. Take care
and have a wonderful weekend!