================= Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:24:46 EDT Subject: Vacation bound... To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: XDDX@aol.com Will be out of touch for a week, spending a much needed R&R at a lake cabin in Minnesota. Have a good one gang ..... Doug ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Out of town again Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:48:12 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- I'm hitting the road again for two weeks, this time in Altus, Oklahoma. I will probably go to the Oklahoma Redhawks - Iowa Cubs game on the 9th if anybody is in Oklahoma City. If so, call me on my cell phone at Take Care, Geno Geno and Sharon Wagner ================= Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 03:32:18 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: ebay enhancements! / YahooGroups about to delete archived From: keithsummers@webtv.net Great ebay news as far as I'm concerned! I'm sure a few of you couldn't care less. The FAV SEARCHES is much improved! Looks like the max of 15 has been raised to 100! It also looks like the email notification has been raised up from 3 & it MAY also be up to 100! I'm currently at 16 searches & 4 emails so I'm not sure on this feature max yet. Also, now you can choose 12 months as your duration as opposed to the previous max of 3 months! In addition I found that when adding a search, you have an option of checking a box to add the search and/or remove a previous one I also just participated in a poll where I was asked about searches on COMPLETED ITEMS. I voted highly in favor of this as far as keeping it, expanding the ending time etc. Otherwords, before long I may be able to type in a card (#591 Grant Jackson or whatever) & search for a whole year & see what they have sold for. Anyway I doubt anyone will be as excited about this news as me but I just wanted to share the news so you avid ebay searchers could update your "fav searches" in MY EBAY :-) WoooHooo! Homer Simpson PS FYI, I also just found out Friday, all attachments in the archives will be deleted very soon by YahooGroups. They will still be in emails in the future but will no longer be archived. ================= Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 17:50:56 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The longest National report From: "mikesportsfan" This will put Ken Morganti's rambles to shame. Do not even try and read this unless you have a few minutes. Thanks to Ron Perry's urging I attended the National show, Saturday & Sunday. I think this was my 5th National. Although I had a good time and spent lots of money, I have come to expect a certain level of awe and excitement for the National. I do not think this year's National lived up to that. A number of factors go into that. I only attended the last 2 days of a 4 day show. The show was the same weekend as the HOF inductions. Some people who would otherwise of attened the National probably went there instead. The slow economy and the fact that the National was in a somewhat remote area may have contributed as well. We also know that Ebay has had an effect on card shops and shows. As collectors we do not need to attend huge shows like the National to obtain obscure items not available locally anymore. Just go to Ebay. Likewise, why does a dealer want to pay $1,000 a table to display items he can get an even wider audience at a cheaper rate on Ebay. I have heard that the reason the National has been moved from Anaheim to Cleveland for next year is that the dealers want the show in an area that people will walk in with stuff for the DEALERS to buy. That the show is a BUYING show for them. With Philadelphia being the closest (2 hours +/-) major city to Atlantic City, few people came in off the street to sell stuff. For die hards such as myself, just attending the show resulted in substantial expenses, that most would not bear to attend a show. We flew in, a couple nites hotel bills, car rental, tolls, gas & food (not gambling) at a Casino, not to mention admission to the show and the OBC swap session, resulted in approx. $500 just to be there for 2 days (this is before BUYING any cards). I would think that many if not most collectors do not plan on spending even that much on cards at the show. I did not finish any sets, even though I am down to 1 in a few sets and also got down to 1 in a couple of more. I did pick up a lot of good stuff, group lots of 1936 Goudey Wide Pens, 1939 & 1940 Playballs, 1930s BB Matchbooks, 1950 Callahans, Red Man cards, 1960 Armour Coins, 1965 Old London Coins, Starliner Sticker sets, Berk Ross, OPC & Parkhurst Hockey, among other items. Not to mention a bunch of 1962 Topps BB obtained at the OBC swap session. A big disappointment was the set-up given to us for the OBC swap session. We were so wedged in, it was difficult to move around and mix with the others present. I did not get a good opportunity to really meet the others present. That is 1 of the biggest draws of the show to me. The chance to see and meet other OBCers. The cramped condition also seemed to put a restraint on the swap session as not as much cardboard seemed to fly around as I would have expected. Granted I was only able to bring a single 1500 count box in my luggage to the swap and tried to make it available, I do not think everyone even looked through it. I think about a dozen OBCers were at the swap, but only 4 of us were still at the show on Sunday. The always present Ken Morganti & Steve Rittenberg plus Ron & myself. Again this put a damper on things, as they are among the OBCers I know best. On the positive side, the OBC shirts & hats were a great hit. With most of us wearing 1 or both and being able to be spotted by others in the group or by dealers. OBC seems to be well known to most vintage dealers at the National. I was amused by the dealer that got mad at me for asking for a discount for the group of cards I was interested in and told me to go ask Steve about his fair pricing and no need to discount them further. I did not think I was being unreasonable, but when the dealer throws the Steve card at you; well... LOL. Although I saw a few Coke caps at the show, I either did not need them, or they were part of a set, that I only needed a few of. The end result is that although I had hopes of getting a bunch, I did not get a single cap. That was extremely disappointing. The dealers were complaning about what a slow show it was. Saying it started off fine on Thursday and that Friday was OK. On the days I attended however, Saturday was extremely slow and Sunday was DEAD. A number of dealers actually started packing up at 11:00 Sunday morning. With fewer tables to look at, I think I actually made it through the entire show in the 2 days. That would be a first for me at the National. This show SHOULD be too big to see everything in 2 days. Especially when I spend an hour at some tables looking through everything and picking out what I want. Dealers should realize thay are setting up a self-fulfilling prophecy. The last day is no good, but by packing up early, people cannot buy from them and others may not attend the show at all,since the dealers are not there. In CONCLUSION (did you think this would ever end?) I have mixed emotions about the show. Got lots of stuff, saw some friends, but felt it was expensive and lacked excitement. I will try and attend the show in Cleveland, which I can drive to and probably Chicago as well. I do not think I will stand the expense of attending a show where I have to fly to in the future. This probably rules out my attending a Ft. Washington show. Maybe in 2006 when the National show is out of driving range I will spend the money on flying to V2006. The National report by Mike Rich. ================= Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 18:32:02 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Info on Superballs needed and other availables From: "mikesportsfan" At the National I bought a group of 10 superballs - Senators. He would not throw in the 2 Phillies he had. I have seen these before, and believe they were mentioned on the servers a few months ago. Anyone have a checklist and know the value of these? Picked up a bunch of BB matchbooks from the 30s. Ron Perry started me off before we left the airport parking lot, plus purchasing some at the shows. The big SCD has checklists for these 1934-1936. However, a few of mine (all Cubs) have 1936 season stats on them, indicating they should be 1937s. Anyone know more about these. Also got some 1936 Goudey Wide Pens. I had heard about the variations, but finally picked some up. I now have about 1/4 of the Another variation I was unaware of was the 1943 MP & Co. set. Picked up a couple for upgrades and noticed that they had different color ink on the back and the text was laid out differeently. Just what I need. Numerous sets of Prewar cards with variations. I was given a bunch of 1962 Topps BB at the show for my buddy Rocky's list. Ended up with about 150 extra mainly from the 1st series. Sorry NO green tints were included. These need to be redistributed to OBC. Addresses appreciated. It may take me a week or so to mail them out, so please be patient. Mike Rich ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Info on Superballs needed and other availables Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:02:34 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" MP & Co also did a set re-using many of the same drawings. My 2000 SCD Catalog says "One type has players full name, pos. and team on back. The second type has only the first and last name and position on back. No team. Variations in ink color and wording of the biographies on the back are also I remember the super balls from when I was a kid in the early 70's. I somehow lost all mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mikesportsfan" To: Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Info on Superballs needed and other availables > At the National I bought a group of 10 superballs - Senators. He > would not throw in the 2 Phillies he had. I have seen these before, > and believe they were mentioned on the servers a few months ago. > Anyone have a checklist and know the value of these? > Picked up a bunch of BB matchbooks from the 30s. Ron Perry started > me off before we left the airport parking lot, plus purchasing some > at the shows. The big SCD has checklists for these 1934-1936. > However, a few of mine (all Cubs) have 1936 season stats on them, > indicating they should be 1937s. Anyone know more about these. > Also got some 1936 Goudey Wide Pens. I had heard about the > variations, but finally picked some up. I now have about 1/4 of the > set. > Another variation I was unaware of was the 1943 MP & Co. set. Picked > up a couple for upgrades and noticed that they had different color > ink on the back and the text was laid out differeently. Just what I > need. Numerous sets of Prewar cards with variations. > I was given a bunch of 1962 Topps BB at the show for my buddy Rocky's > list. Ended up with about 150 extra mainly from the 1st series. > Sorry NO green tints were included. These need to be redistributed > to OBC. Addresses appreciated. It may take me a week or so to mail > them out, so please be patient. > Mike Rich > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:30:25 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Info on Superballs needed and other availables To: Mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com First...the superballs...one of my favorite "card" sets... They were made by Chemtoy in 1970. Most use Topps pictures. There are at least 285 different balls. I do own the Phillies set (I think). There were also cards that held the balls by team. My 2002 SCD Bible seems sort of sketchy Next...the matchbooks...there is some debate on this still...in 1936 Diamond definitely produced a Chicago Cubs team set. I have seen a handful of ones with 1937 stats as well. Here is what I think happened. The Cubs set for 1937 may have been a team issue, given away only at the park or in Chicago and very few are out there. Scd does not list it as a seperate set but I do recall many years ago, one of the price guides listing the Cubs set as 1936-37. Oh well... Last and most disturbing...according to SCD bible...the '43 M & P set was produced in two distinct types and at least 5 subtypes!! The two major types can be distingushed by the back...one has the team name, one does not. Variations are known in inking, coloring, typeface, etc. Good luck. Hope this helps ================= To: Subject: ebay seller Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 18:16:10 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category31719&item2745641496 Does this guy has way too many premium cards to be true ? The scans are lousy too...I'm not going to bid, but what do you think aboutall the bids that he's gotten already ? Do you think we have another "ohiotarheelsfan" on our hands ? I'd love almost all of these cards he's selling...if they were real that is... ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay seller Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:33:55 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Yes I think they are phony. 99% of the bids are probably from accounts that he's set up to give the illusion that knowledgable collectors are biddingon the cards. Of course we can't tell because the auctions are private. A good rule of thumb is that a private auction should be avoided. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 9:16 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay seller http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category31719&item2745641496 Does this guy has way too many premium cards to be true ? The scans are lousy too...I'm not going to bid, but what do you think about all the bids that he's gotten already ? Do you think we have another "ohiotarheelsfan" on our hands ? I'd love almost all of these cards he's selling...if they were real that is... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "Brian Lindholme" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay seller Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:36:45 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" Did you ever notice these guys never have any commons... ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Lindholme To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 8/2/2003 6:16:15 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay seller http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=2745641496 Does this guy has way too many premium cards to be true ? The scans are lousy too...I'm not going to bid, but what do you think about all the bids that he's gotten already ? Do you think we have another "ohiotarheelsfan" on our hands ? I'd love almost all of these cards he's selling...if they were real that is... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 01:21:17 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: bogus eBay link to verify your account information From: keithsummers@webtv.net ================= Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ex-big leaguers coaching in the minors To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Hi guys, A side benefit of seeing a bunch of minor league games is a growing list of ex-major leaguers in the coaching ranks. Some players sign cards sent c/o their teams, but I'm not sure how the minor leagues handle it. Anyone have experience sending cards to a players via the minor league team address, good or bad? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] bogus eBay link to verify your account information Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 06:21:31 -0500 From: "wierzbickim" I received the same kind of message a few weeks ago. It was followed up by another message that warned that, if I did not respond, my ebay account would be deactivated. I ignored both messages and my ebay account is still working just fine. Be careful about responding to this type of message. They want your password so they can access your credit card information. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "VCT" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] bogus eBay link to verify your account information > This is the most realistic looking bogus ebay form I've ever seen. I > rcvd an email (very official looking) asking me to click the link & > update. I also heard on the news last week that they (FBI? FTC?) would > be cracking down on this type stuff. Site goes to www.SME.com > apparently. Comments? > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > http://www.sme.com.ph/ebay/ebay/ ================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 07:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Lots of OBC 70s HOF lots on eBay To: obc ramblings From: Matthew There's a guy runnings a bunch of low-grade 70s HOF lots on eBay. They include many HOF cards, just about all being won for ~$2 right now by a guy named "lotsman." Assuming that's not an OBCer, there will be some good hits there for cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2745159413&category=44821&rd=1 View seller's other auctions for the rest. Please don't outbid me for the Ryan RC, otherwise ... Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 14:22:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Thanks for the info From: "mikesportsfan" In less than a day I reeived 8 replies to my plea for info on the MP & Co. set, 1930s BB Matchbooks and the Superballs. I feel kind of stupid regarding the MP & Co., as I just did not read the blurb about them in the annual SCD mentioning the color ink variations and text on the background. It might be kind of interesting to compile a master checklist of these. The matchbooks brouught about comments verifying the confusion on the years these were issued. I may contact Bob Lemke of SCD about them. The superballs brought the most comments. Many remembered getting them back in 1970. In the last SCD they are mentioned with "fuzzy" info. A list of 285, although probably incomplete, is listed. I am told they were issued by Chemtoy. Bob Neill and Josh seem to know/have the most of these, so if you have any extras, let us know. Thanks for all the info. As usual the collective knowledge of the group surpasses the "bibles" of the industry. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 17:34:48 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: Chalmers Mustard Ted Williams card trivia? From: keithsummers@webtv.net ================= Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 21:58:02 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: T206 lot... From: "Suzanne Freegard-Schoenrock" Here's a nice but pricey lot...thought you guys might want a look ================= Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:24:34 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: BOB REED e-mail? From: Dan Austin Anyone know of a better address to contact BOB REED at besides "boreed@hotmail.com". I've tried a few times to that address and it keeps - Dan Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare ================= Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 20:04:55 EDT Subject: Two of my favorite things... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jrhatchjr@aol.com After vacationing in the Caribbean this week, my wife and I naturally came back to a house with no food. So grocery shopping we went. One of my stops was in the beer aisle. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed a 12 pack of Pete's Wicked Summer Brew (I think it was Summer Brew - though I like beer I'm not a big Pete's fan). What really caught my eye was the packaging: a VERY familiar old-time baseball pose. I took me a few seconds to identify the image and then it hit me: HOF'er Dan Brouthers! The image comes from a Tobin Lithograph (H891, 1887) card entitled "Watch Me Soak It." Anyone who has Lew Lipset's Encyclopedia Volume 1 can see the card on page 85. I'm actually thinking about buying a 12 pack but I'd probably end up enjoying the package more than the beer, though for the price it may be as close to owning the card as I'll get :-) Happy Collecting! ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Vermont bound Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:23:56 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Headed to Vermont tomorrow with the family, returning Friday. Will be out of email communication so if I don't respond to your offer of a 33 Goudey Gehrig or T206 Cobb don't worry I will when I return. ;-) ================= To: "OBC RAMBLINGS" Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 22:22:10 -0500 From: "Suzanne Freegard Schoenrock" sorry I alway for get to do the link...anyway, here are some nice lots to look I've added in a few new lots to the auction at www.19thcenturyonly.com. Lots #135-143 include a nice '41 DiMaggio Playball and high grade T205's. ================= To: Jrhatchjr@aol.com,OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Two of my favorite things... Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 6:47:38 +0000 From: Glenn Codere I think I have a solution for you. Buy the 12-pack, and keep the packaging and 1 beer for yourself. Send the 11 dupes to me. Glasgow, Scotland ============================================================ From: Jrhatchjr@aol.com Date: 2003/08/04 Mon AM 12:04:55 GMT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Two of my favorite things... After vacationing in the Caribbean this week, my wife and I naturally came back to a house with no food. So grocery shopping we went. One of my stops was in the beer aisle. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed a 12 pack of Pete's Wicked Summer Brew (I think it was Summer Brew - though I like beer I'm not a big Pete's fan). What really caught my eye was the packaging: a VERY familiar old-time baseball pose. I took me a few seconds to identify the image and then it hit me: HOF'er Dan Brouthers! The image comes from a Tobin Lithograph (H891, 1887) card entitled "Watch Me Soak It." Anyone who has Lew Lipset's Encyclopedia Volume 1 can see the card on page 85. I'm actually thinking about buying a 12 pack but I'd probably end up enjoying the package more than the beer, though for the price it may be as close to owning the card as I'll get :-) Happy Collecting! ============================================================ Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: A Visit to report (or Mr.Smith Comes to Glasgow)!!! Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 8:01:45 +0000 From: Glenn Codere Maureen and I had the very great privilege and pleasure of entertaining our esteemed Treasurer “Trader Doug” Smith and his wife Judy in our home last week. Doug and Judy were doing a whistlestop tour of Great Britain, spending a day here and there before moving on, and I‘m grateful that they took the time out to come and visit with us for an evening. They arrived late on Monday afternoon, and after a home cooked meal (a typically fantastic chicken curry made by Maureen), we drove them into the heart of the city to one of our favorite bars where we could enjoy a beer and a few hours a chat. We had such a great time with two of the nicest people you’d ever want to meet, but isn’t that always the way with this fine group of ours? I’m very much looking forward to meeting up with Doug and Judy again in the not too distant future, hopefully at a National or at the annual Vegas event! Incidentally, Doug didn’t come empty handed! No sir-ree. I’ve been able to add the following items to my collection thanks to his visit – 5 autographed sepia 8x10s of Bobby Thomson famous home run (Doug picked these up on ebay – he thought he was bidding for one in a Dutch Auction, turns out he won all 5!!! So if anyone would like a piece of Thomson memorabilia, I’m sure Doug wouldn’t mind too much if I were to pass the dupes along.), a ’57 and a ’59 Thomson both of which are upgrades for me, a UV Thomson, and large format card of Bobby in Cubs uniform which kind of looks kind of like an aircraft safety instructions card. The date on this item is 1977, but I’ve never seen one before. Nice! Three items had no connection to the omnipresent Mr Thomson – a ’62 Warren Spahn, a ’62 NL Batting Leaders with Clemente as the main “floating head”, and a Jay Publishing Rocky Colavito which I am led to believe came from my old friend and confidant Steve Rittenberg! Finally, Doug and Judy also left us a beautiful piece of pottery – a blue/grey earthenware dish hand-made in New Mexico. Maureen and I both love the design and colors of items from the American southwest, and this is something which will find a prominent place in our compact and bijou dining room. Thank you Doug and Judy (and Steve) for enhancing my collection – and our home – with your visit and with these wonderful items! Cheers for now! Glenn Codere Glasgow, Scotland Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ================= Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 17:48:26 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Affordable Mantle RC on ebay From: "jmoleta30341" Yes, I know the guy has zero feedback and just happens to also have RCs of Ryan, Brett & Aaron available (as well as an 18K Rolex!), but if nothing else, check out the scan on this card - Tipton all the way! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: A nice game Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:01:43 -0400 (EDT) From: sbrock42 Hi,This is a special nice game
This game is my first work.
You're the first player.
I wish you would like it. ================= Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 16:34:11 -0400 To: jmoleta30341 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Affordable Mantle RC on ebay From: Mark S Talbot What a joke!!!!

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================= Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 01:26:58 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Empty puffy From: "bobs7714" Hello everyone, I recently made a purchase for Grant on ebay since some sellers do not ship to Canada. After winning the auction Grant emailed and said he would send a check and a few cards in appreciation. Yesterday I received his puffy that obviously had been opened and resealed containing only a note about the cards ( that had been removed ) and his check. Just curious of this happens to others or just some guy in Ky. Thanks for letting me vent. Bob Schaub ================= To: Subject: 1973 need only 11 to finish Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:58:25 -0700 From: "terry ellis" need #s338.474.559.576.608.615.617.631.635.641.and658. any help would be appreciated. thanks kit okamuro ================= Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 19:16:00 EDT Subject: I'm back To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Hi everyone - Just got back from a great trip to England, Scotland, and Wales. Among the highlights of the trip was a stop at the home of Glenn and Maureen Codere. They were magificent hosts. Meeting them was like it seems to be with all OBCers, you meet in person for the first time and you're instantly old friends. Glenn provided two pages of directions to get to his house, around curving streets and roundabouts, which were very accurate and we arrived about as scheduled. After moving in and a cup of coffee we did the normal OBC exchange of gifts ... Glenn handed me 30 72 T's and 1 66T. I gave him a few Bobby Thomson cards, 5 autographed pictures of Thomson hitting his shot heard round the world (I thought I was buying one ..ended up getting 5 for $5, what a deal), and a couple other assorted cards. Also brought a Colovito pic from Steve Rittenberg and a book on Thomson from former OBCer and Dodger fan Doug Johnson. Glenn has met a surprising number of OBC guys and we enjoyed a great conversation, a splendid dinner, and a visit to an excellent pub in downtown Glasgow. Glenn even took the next morning off and cooked the breakfast after we slept in. We had a great time and really appreciate the hospitality. I won't bore you with details of the rest of the trip except to say that Scotland is beautiful and the people were all very friendly. It's great to be back. I'll leave the rest of my message on the thanks server. - Doug ================= To: Subject: New Meaning to OBC Brotherhood Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:09:38 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" This is gonna be long, so if you don't have time, hit the Del key. So there I was at Savary for the last week....my bride at home earning my keep, as it should be. Mike Diamanti, being the great guy that he is, sent his wife to stay with me. What a GREAT guy!!! Of course Kellen brought their son Dimitri and his buddy Evan (both 14 or so), but the fact is they are typical teenagers....feed them in the morning, and you won't see them again until they are real hungry, and their next visit is generally a short one...quick trip through the fridge, and they are gone again for a few hours. Mike is a great guy for sharing his wife, and I now have a greater understanding for the term OBC Brotherhood....it seems to extend WAY past baseball cards. My own trip was not without adventure, but this time it was funny. My neighbour up there rolled up in his truck the evening before Kellen and boys arrived. I have to mention that Jim's wife is away for a couple of weeks, and he is a bit of a psycho, and usually tries not to start drinking before 7:30 a.m., but he usually fails in this pursuit. So you will just have to imagine the shape he was in when he rolled up at 7:30 at night and stopped out back of the cabin. I heard his voice saying "Just a minute, I'll be right back." He came in and begged me to do him a favor....I thought maybe he needed a push for his beater truck...no such luck. He says "I've got two of them in the truck, and I only want one...you gotta take one of them off my hands for a few minutes, the fat dumpy one, so I can connect with the other one." Over I go to help him out.....turns out he has somehow picked up two girls, against all odds. My first glance told me he was really up against it....they were quite obviously lesbians. I pointed this out to Jim, and he just said "I think I can bring her back." Much to his regret, the situation did not resolve itself in his favor. The next day, I phoned my bride to tell her that I was on a double-date with Jimmy the psycho/alcoholic and friends, and explained the situation. After getting the hysterical laughter out of the way, she asked how well I had done....then answered it by saying "Not too well I bet." Good call, kid! Anyways, Jimmy and I are the talk of the island this week. Back to the Diamanti clan....Due to work commitments, Mike was unable to come up, but has vowed to experience the island very soon. From Kellen's perspective, she must have thought she was walking into a nightmare...they arrived after the water taxi and the land taxi had shut down. She had to charter a guy's boat to get to Savary, but he didn't gouge her at all...as a matter of fact was quite reasonable. But now they are on island, with 3 miles to walk, carrying a cooler and all their worldy goods. They climbed the mother of all hills and got about a mile, then had to ditch their stuff...it was killing them. They started walking, and managed to get a lift to Unsavary Manor. It's now almost dark, so I got a neighbor out of bed and asked him to fire up his truck and go get their stuff, especially the perishables. His truck was full of junk, so we reverted to Plan B...sent the boys on bikes to go get what they could carry. Just after they left, my neighbor showed up and said he could bring back most of the stuff. He and Kellen took off after the boys and their goods...about 3 minutes later, a different car altogether arrived, bringing all their food and gear. Must have looked like some kind of wierd night time fire drill. We all recovered, the boys headed off over the next couple of days doing their Tom Sawyer imitation...climbing trees, building a couple of rafts or pirate ships, and getting sunburned. All in all, a very cool OBC-related experience for me. I had never met Kellen before, but I feel like I have known her for 30 years. They have stayed on for a couple of extra days, so there could be lots more to report soon. End result...no blood spilled, and no trips to the ER. All in all a great time. I asked Kellen if she would consider a Ramble....I hope she does. Any other adventuresome OBC'ers ready for an experience? I can send you the directions, and tell you where the First Aid kit is stored. (Trust me, it's a good one.) ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: results of my free time this summer..... Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 08:36:45 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" For a while now I've wanted to put this together, and I finally got to it this summer. Take a look at: http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cooltopps/front.htm and please let me know what you think. ================= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] results of my free time this summer..... To: From: Very cool! I particularly like the '56 Rocky Bridges. If you were watching the Sox on NESN last night, it should remind you of the Ortiz dive into third after his triple. I hope Topps or someone got a chot of that "slide" > Kids, > For a while now I've wanted to put this together, and I > finally got to it this summer. Take a look at: > http://home.comcast.net/~seankatie/cooltopps/front.htm > and please let me know what you think. > Sean > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Subject: ALERT: 1939 Play Ball high numbers on ebay Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:33:29 -0500 From: "Tim Newcomb" Hi guys-- Anybody seeking those tough high numbers may want to check out this seller's stuff. (His username is rustywilly, which sounds a little painful.) There are buy-it-now prices on all of them ranging from $15 on up, depending oncondition. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item2746473379&category31722 ================= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:04:44 EDT Subject: Wheaties Record To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Who is the record collector? I managed to purchase two Wheaties records that appear to be cut off of the box in the '50s? maybe. They are both "Take me out ot the ballgame" Let me know...thanks ================= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:19:51 EDT Subject: Annual T-205 Gold Border Report To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, prewartraders@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Well, hello all. Here it is. The annual T-205 report. Some interesting stuff (I hope) for you to mull over. This research was conducted from August of last year until July 31st of this year. The ultimate desire is to get a true sense of the cards, distribution, value, scarcity, and production. Where to start...Let me start with the raw numbers. The numbers below represent cards seen at shows, auctions (mail, telephone, and internet), a collection, and several shops. I saw way more this year but that is because I expanded my search to include websites and telephone auctions and a few more shows and shops. There is a margin of error with this because every now and then cards are sold again in the same year (I do think the margin is low, probably less than 5%). Total T-205 cards examined: 1,752 (more than twice last year's numbers!!). Most common T-205 card seen: W.R. Dickson (32) Least common T-205 common card seen: D. Hoffman/D. Jones (10 each) Most common "rare" card seen: John Nee (minor leauger) (14) Least common "rare" card seen: Hoblitzell-no stats (2) Avg. condition of cards: g-vg (they do not seem to hold up very well) Back report for this year: First off, some people still make the distinction between dark and light green soverign backs. I still maintain that there is no such thing. It is either faded or a light print run. The other differences are actual color differences, I examined a few different high grade broadleaf this year and they are definitely different colors. Polar Bear seems to have come up. I also decided to include minor leaugers and rare cards in the survey this year. Piedmont 353 Sweet Caporal (red) 294 Polar Bear 256 Honest Long Cut 250 Sweet Caporal (black) 219 Hassan 198 Soverign 69 Cycle 44 American Beauty (green) 29 American Beauty (blackish) 20 Broadleaf (brown) 7 Broadleaf (black) 5 Blank Back 3 Hindu 3 Drum 2 A little different this year...I actually saw two drums sold this year (incl. one twice) and three hindus this year (incl. a laminated one that I bought). Still looking for a cheap Drum back. Now some T-205 news.... I now can say for certain how the T-205s were produced. Printed sheets unlike the T-206 set. The T-206 set was produced where a sheet contained vertical strips of the same player. We have all seen those T-206 cards with the same name on the top and the bottom. T-205s were not produced like this. T-205s were produced on large sheets with one of each card on each sheet. Although I do suspect that there are at least two different sheets and possibly three. The bottom row of the cards was replaced on each sheet with different poses, corrections, or players. This is why I believe some cards were more difficult to obtain including the minor leaugers, back variations, etc. Also there was a difference in print runs...There were at least four different print runs. Huh? Yes. Easy to figure out. The four Hoblitzell variations is your first clue. The second clue has to do with the variations and print runs. The Hoblitzell no stats, Moran stray line, and Wallace no cap w/ one line of stats all seem to have been corrected on the second print run. I also feel that that this run was rather small thus the scarcity of those cards. I also feel that those cards will not be found with any of the rarest backs. They just never made it to the other factories to have the drum, hindu, cycle, etc. put on the back. I may be wrong but that is what theories are for. The third print run included some changes in poses and fixing of some errors like the Crandall, Latham, and Chase cards. I also feel that the Joss was replaced in this run since he passed away. I also feel that the Wallace w/ cap was included in this run. The fourth print run was probably short. It included the inclusion of some of the rarer pose variations, the Breshnahan, Chase were changed and some of the rarer cards were introduced as replacements for others (i.e. the Grant was a replacement for the Raymond). News and Notes... An ungraded Moran w/ Stray Line sold for over $500 last week on ebay. That is the second one to sell for more than $300 in the last year. This is a tough card, but not that tough. Heck, I bought my Breshnahan mouth open for $75 this year and have seen only 3 of these in the last two years. Joss is appearing to be a little easier to find than previously thought. I saw at least 6 for sale this year. I think that the minor leaugers were on the bottom of the sheets. I have seen to miscut minor leaugers that both have nothing printed on the long bottom of the card. This leads me to believe that they were on the bottom of the sheets and were replacement cards for other players. Probably in the third and fourth runs. Blank back cards...i used to have a theory that they were part of an advertising promotional item. I still believe that. The three that I own two are clearly printed on cardboard and apear handcut. The third is regular cardstock. I feel that a sheet or two may have escaped advertising and back printing and found their way into the marketplace. I actually think these are probably rarer than Hindus but there were a few found this year in a small hoard. I still believe that the Hoblitzell with Cin after the stats is not as rare as the one without the Cin. Having seen my wantlist and others the one without is rarer. In fact I have seen a significant number of the ones with Cin and far fewer without. Any other questions/comments? Feel free to ask. Just a little stuff for you to think about. ================= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:36:04 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Annual T-205 Gold Border Report To: Wite3@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com joshua: i know nothing about T-205s (or any prewar for that matter), and dont collect them. but i found this email fascinating, kind of like CSI for cards. the forensics are really interesting, and i cant imagine the research this takes. great job! now, can you tell me why a 66 grant jackson rc is so hard to find? tnx, gm ================= Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 00:16:28 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Moving Soon: Available Baseball Items (non-cards) From: "pugsmail" God Bless the USAF -- I'm being transferred to Hawaii at the end of Sept. As with any AF move, you're never really sure if your stuff will arrive at your new location, or it will resemble what it looked like when you last saw it. Anyway, if for some reason somebody wanted any of this stuff, LMK and I'll mail it to you. I'd rather you enjoy it now than have it lost, stolen, or broken later. I have pictures of some of the items on my web page. Thanks for reading, John Pugsley Miscellaneous Baseball Items Available: The Year The Mets Lost Last Place. By Paul D. Zimmerman and Dick Schaap. Hardcover. Rheingold Extra Dry Lager Beer Coaster: 1969 World Champion Mets 1972 Bud Harrelson Slurpee Cup The Vintage & Classic Baseball Collector. Issue #3, Sept 1995 and issue #6, May/June 1996 2000 Tucson Sidewinders Ticket Stub: General Admission 2002 Colorado Rockies Ticket Stub: Aug 25, Mets vs Rockies 2002 Colorado Rockies Ticket Stub: Aug 29, Giants vs Rockies ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:13:58 -0400 (EDT) To: talbot1@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Alden Auker From: Originaleek@webtv.net Mark, (et al) I noted your thanks to Bob Donaldson for a 39 Playball, Alden Auker. The Auker name is well known up here in Grand Blanc. Auker owns a lot of property and at least a dozen apartment complexes and various other Real Estate. The Auker estate is subject of much gossip & urban legend regarding well known celebrities who "are buying the Auker Estate." Bob Seger, Ted Nuggent, Madona, & Chris Rock / Pam Anderson to name a few. But I digress..... word out of the local Barber Shop is that Eldon (or his father, depending on who's telling the story) once played for the Tiger organization. Could Alden be Eldon or a relative and did he ever play for the Tigers or an affiliate? Are there other cards of Alden/Eldon out there? Is there a web site where I can research this? We keep what we give away! ================= To: Subject: Possible OBC-type cards on ebay Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 07:56:24 -0500 From: "wierzbickim" Hi, All! I just heard about some possible OBC-type cards that will be put up for auction on ebay. Rick from Rockford (ebay username is gizzybaseball) usually sells high-grade cards for top prices. However, he just let me know that he bought some collections that include low-grade cards. He will be putting the highest value cards on ebay. Currently, he has a 1952 Topps Berra listed, but he plans to add some others today. He also told me that he has about 1,000 low-grade cards from the 1950s-1960s that he will show me at a show in Milwaukee next weekend. I will let thegroup know if there is anything of interest. Happy collecting! Mike W ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:41:59 EDT Subject: WARNING: TRADE AND DEALER SCUM ALERT!!! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com eBay lot #2746062809 (1400 cards from 1960-69) hi: i purchased this lot this week, and while there are many i need as both 1st copies and upgrades, there will be hundreds that will just go to the dupes box. so, if you would like to take a look at the lot and let me know what you need, maybe we can work out a trade. please let me know what you mayhave for me and the condition. and although i have never sold a card in my life, if you cant find anything on my lists but really need a card, i would consider that as well. i will be out of town until august 19, but will get back to you ASAP. tnx, gm ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:03:06 EDT Subject: i'm outta here To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OCTraders@yahoogroups.com, From: smartalecx@aol.com off on my honeymoon. will be back on august 19th if i survive, and wont be checking emails before then. have a great week! gary mandell ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:51:05 EDT Subject: Need help with 62 Topps card number To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Hi all, I need help - I purchased a 1962 Topps card - Whitey Ford in action, with the caption "Ford Tosses Curve" - but one of the previous owners had it glued onto a piece of paper; everything on the back except the corners is in good shape. (I figured one dollar was a fair price to pay - couldn't turn it down!) I can't make out the card number. Any help out there? ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:05:19 EDT Subject: What's wrong with this ebay lot??? To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com hi- this is Linda- i have seen this lot of 205 1952 topps up before on ebay and no one bids on it- it closed last time with no bids- i don't understand because the Mantle pictured alone is probably worth one half or more what the seller is asking- please take a look and give me your opinion- ebay # 2746149219--this lot sure looks like it is worth it for the money the seller is asking. ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:55:55 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Wantlist] WARNING: TRADE AND DEALER SCUM ALERT!!! From: digdugdig@webtv.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:41:59 EDT Subject: [OBC-Wantlist] WARNING: TRADE AND DEALER SCUM ALERT!!! eBay lot #2746062809 (1400 cards from 1960-69) hi: i purchased this lot this week, and while there are many i need as both 1st copies and upgrades, there will be hundreds that will just go to the dupes box. so, if you would like to take a look at the lot and let me know what you need, maybe we can work out a trade. please let me know what you mayhave for me and the condition. and although i have never sold a card in my life, if you cant find anything on my lists but really need a card, i would consider that as well. i will be out of town until august 19, but will get back to you ASAP. tnx, gm ================= Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:26:00 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Alden Auker To: Originaleek@webtv.net, talbot1@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Eldon Auker pitched in the majors from 1933 to 1942. 6 years of that with the tigers. No other Auker played in the majors that I can find, so I'm sure Alden was Eldon. Not a bad pitcher ....record of 130-101 and a 4.42 ERA. Was 1-1 in the 34 world series. Won the forth game but lost the 7th when he was knocked out in the third inning. The cardinals won 11-0. Eldon was born in Norkatur, Kansas. Probably the same guy. - Doug ================= To: , , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Alden Auker Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:20:18 -0400 From: "galtemos" Actually, his name is neither Eldon nor Alden...........it is Elden Auker. He wrote his autobiography in 2001, and, as I recall, he mentioned in it that his name was frequently misspelled. In fact, many of the baseball encyclopedias spell it "Eldon," but they are incorrect. I met Elden Auker at a conference in 1995, commemorating the 100th birthday of Babe Ruth. Auker was a featured guest, because he played against Ruth. I did get his autograph (Auker's..........not Ruth's). I just now checked it, and there is no doubt that he spells his name "Elden." And who would know better than he? > From: Originaleek@webtv.net > To: talbot1@comcast.net; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Alden Auker > Date: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:13 AM > Mark, (et al) > I noted your thanks to Bob Donaldson for a 39 Playball, Alden Auker. > The Auker name is well known up here in Grand Blanc. Auker owns a lot of > property and at least a dozen apartment complexes and various other Real > Estate. The Auker estate is subject of much gossip & urban legend > regarding well known celebrities who "are buying the Auker Estate." Bob > Seger, Ted Nuggent, Madona, & Chris Rock / Pam Anderson to name a few. > But I digress..... word out of the local Barber Shop is that Eldon (or > his father, depending on who's telling the story) once played for the > Tiger organization. Could Alden be Eldon or a relative and did he ever > play for the Tigers or an affiliate? Are there other cards of > Alden/Eldon out there? Is there a web site where I can research this? > We keep what we give away! > EEK > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: A bit late with this National Ramblings (Abbreviated version) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:57:47 -0400 From: Well, I finally have the time and the energy to write a short message of thanks and rambling on my visit to the National. The Fuge and Ed Schott joined me at my parents shore house for the weekend.As expected, the Fuge rode down with me and as usual we had great conversation. Ed me us nearby my parents place at a family fun park. We hit some baseballs and headed for my parents for card talk and snacks. Friday and Saturday we hit the national. I did what everybody else did , buy cards. So I won't get into that. Finished off my 73 Topps Baseball, 74 baseball , 74 footballl , and 93 baseball as well as getting my 71 football down to just one card. Got lotsa other cards as well. It was great to meet many OBCer's I 've not met before. Joe Isaac, Dave Hornish, Bob Reed, Ron Perry , Mike Rich , Kent Goto, and I think the Friar, I can't remember for sure if I met him or just heard people saying he was there. If I forgot somebody new , I apologize, I should have written this weeks ago. It was also good to see the many OBCer's I have met before. Saturday nights trade went fast , didn't seem like there was enough time and didn't really get to chat with the guys at the other end of the table as much as would have liked. Thanks to all in attendance for a great time and the many cards. Again , I apologize for not remembering everything that was given to me(from now on I will write them down). I definately rmember Steve Rittenberg letting me havea great many cards . including 3 T206's( that's not something you easily forget). Also , I think It was Mac Wubben who gave me a nice start to a 60 Topps set and Kent Goto started me off on a 54 Topps set with about 20 or so. Other than that , it's a blur, not enough time and lots of cards. I would like to thank Mike Rich, Steve Rittenberg, Ken Morganti, Ed Schott, The Fuge, Ron Perry, Mac Wubben, Spike Glidden , Robert Pigeon and Kent Goto forthe cards and a great time. Looking forward to the next time. Thanks again, ================= Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 12:08:36 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: Question About Pinky Higgins From: Dan Austin Can anyone help this guy out? >From: "Palash Ghosh" >To: >Subject: Question About Pinky Higgins >Dear Sir: I love you website of old baseball cards, but something puzzles >me about >a card I saw on the page linked below. >Card #18 shows one "Pinky Higgins," but on the card his name is given as >The "Pinky Higgins" I know of was named Mike (he would later become >manager and >GM of the Boston Red Sox in the 1950s and 1960s). Is that card the right >Pinky Higgins? Thanks >http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/virtual/36goudey/36goudey.html Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare ================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:22:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: Question About Pinky Higgins To: , From: I think this guy was one and the same. Pinky's name (at least the guy from the 36 Goudey) was Michael Franklin Higgins, so my guess is that he was "Frank" as a youngster and "mike" as he got older. Pinky is probably not a great name for gathering respect from your players. Here is some info: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=higgipi01 > Can anyone help this guy out? >>From: "Palash Ghosh" >>To: >>Subject: Question About Pinky Higgins >>Dear Sir: I love you website of old baseball cards, but something puzzles >> me about >>a card I saw on the page linked below. >>Card #18 shows one "Pinky Higgins," but on the card his name is given as >> "Frank." >>The "Pinky Higgins" I know of was named Mike (he would later become >> manager and >>GM of the Boston Red Sox in the 1950s and 1960s). Is that card the right >> Pinky Higgins? Thanks >>http://www.vintagecardtraders.org/virtual/36goudey/36goudey.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com > Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > "How far that little candle throws his beams! > So shines a good deed in a naughty world." > - William Shakespeare > ---------------------------------------------------------------- ================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:29:48 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Alden Auker To: galtemos@suffolk.lib.ny.us, talbot1@comcast.net, From: Wite3@aol.com The autobiography that was mentioned was great. Elden played against many of the games greats and tells some interesting and funny stories about it. He reminds me of Mickey Hatcher...not the most athletic or skilled but he had a lot of heart and determination. ================= Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 16:31:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Need help with 62 Topps card number From: "larrygersh" It's number 315. By the way, over Labor Day Weekend there is always a large baseball card show at The Kings Island Inn just north of Cincinnati off I-71. If you or any of the other OBCer's in the SW area of Ohio want or plan on attending, let me know. I would love to hook up with you. Have a great day, -- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, directorth@a... wrote: > Hi all, > I need help - I purchased a 1962 Topps card - Whitey Ford in action, with the > caption "Ford Tosses Curve" - but one of the previous owners had it > onto a piece of paper; everything on the back except the corners is in good > shape. (I figured one dollar was a fair price to pay - couldn't turn it down!) > I can't make out the card number. Any help out there? > Thanks, > Tom ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 01:14:02 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Moving Soon: Available Baseball Items (non-cards) From: "pugsmail" OBCers -- Thanks for the responses. Everything except the ticket stubs has been gobbled up. It's nice to know the items will be proudly displayed in OBCer homes. God Bless the USAF -- I'm being transferred to Hawaii at the end of Sept. As with any AF move, you're never really sure if your stuff will arrive at your new location, or it will resemble what it looked like when you last saw it. Anyway, if for some reason somebody wanted any of this stuff, LMK and I'll mail it to you. I'd rather you enjoy it now than have it lost, stolen, or broken later. I have pictures of some of the items on my web page. Thanks for reading, John Pugsley Miscellaneous Baseball Items Available: The Year The Mets Lost Last Place. By Paul D. Zimmerman and Dick Schaap. Hardcover. Rheingold Extra Dry Lager Beer Coaster: 1969 World Champion Mets 1972 Bud Harrelson Slurpee Cup The Vintage & Classic Baseball Collector. Issue #3, Sept 1995 and issue #6, May/June 1996 2000 Tucson Sidewinders Ticket Stub: General Admission 2002 Colorado Rockies Ticket Stub: Aug 25, Mets vs Rockies 2002 Colorado Rockies Ticket Stub: Aug 29, Giants vs Rockies ================= Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 22:08:04 EDT Subject: Beware Ebay scam To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com Hi all, Twice today I've received emails from scammers pretending to be from eBay, saying they've "lost" my info & need my user name & password to "restore" my account. THIS IS A SCAM!!! The first email had a very authentic-looking ebay screen, complete with logo. DO NOT FALL FOR THIS! Do as I did - if/when you get one of these, forward it to this email address: If you're still not sure if it's real, do something very simple - go to eBay & log in. If your account is still there, then these emails are fraudulent, criminal spammers attempting to steal your account. ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 02:43:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pugs and Ray's Saturday From: "pugsmail" Ray Luurs and I worked over three card shops today in Denver. Ray is the first OBCer I've met since joining the group last month. I picked up a 66 LL with Koufax for a buck and a 63 LL with Whitey and Robin and some other mugs for two bucks. Heck I would've paid that in S&H alone on ebay. Ray picked up some nice cards as well. Thanks Ray for showing a new guy around the Denver area card shops. John "Pugs" Pugsley ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:05:24 EDT Subject: Football Cards Available List To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Hi! All, The long overdue list of football cards I have available. Naturally, first come first serve or those who I owe cards to. Sunglasses required also. Please also note that I have reviewed everyones supposedly updated wantlists and have listed those who will be receiving packages in the near future. Football Cards Available 1956 Topps - 2 54 62 66 90 1957 Topps - 70 108 1958 Topps - 21 89(2) 92 1960 Topps - 61 64 66 67 69 70 1961 Topps - 60 183 184 185 189 192 1962 Topps - 84 1964 Topps - 48(2) 51 57 59 1966 Topps - 38 108 1968 Topps - 2 12 17 34 42(2) 53 64 69 95(2) 104 116 121(2) 122 147 182(2) 184(2) 205 214 1969 Topps - 157 260 263 1970 Topps - 14 39(2) 122(2) 1971 Topps - 38 59 68 81 185 1972 Topps - 22(2) 24 28 38(2) 50 62 69 74 81 90(2) 108 124 143 152 154 155 178 189(2) 208(2) 215 226 234 247 249 255(2) 256(2) 1973 Topps - 27 50 52(2) 77 78 101(3) 104 127(2) 128(2) 160 164(2) 181 187(4) 189 207(2) 210 217(2) 235(2) 238(2) 242(3) 269(2) 288 291 320 334 345(3) 346 360 361 363(3) 386(3) 398(2) 413 426(2) 438 461 466(2) 484(2) 502(3) 503 520(2) 527 Bears CL 1974 Topps - 10(2) 19 37(2) 39(2) 63 65(2) 89(2) 91 116 124 132(2) 135 139 141 166(2) 168 190 192(2) 194(2) 217 219 243(2) 269 300 320 326(2) 353 358 378 380 384 396 404(2) 406 409 430 432 453 519 523 Rams CL 49er CL 1975 Topps - 6 7 8 32 33 34 52(2) 58 70(2) 77 89 95 110 121 123 138 151 171 180 187 195 214 231 248 258 275 278 295 302 305(2) 320 331 349 350 351 360 392 405 409 418 432(3) 452 454 498 511 523 1976 Topps - 18(2) 25 37 42 50(2) 68 76 77 80(3) 100(2) 110 112(3) 123(3) 133(3) 139(3) 155(2) 158 163(2) 173(2) 182 196(2) 198(4) 206 226(3) 234(4) 246(2) 252(2) 270(2) 285(3) 295 310 320(4) 323(4) 343(2) 355 367(2) 373(2) 380 384 401(2) 415(2)418 421(2) 426 446(2) 443(4) 463 470 493 495 511(4) 513 519(2) 1977 Topps - 18 24 42 77 80 108 127 137 154 173 197 213 220 225 246 247 265 270 275 276 295 310 320 331 343 354 364 375 380 406 425 430 438 463 493 494 511 1978 Topps - 8(2) 12 18 28 38(2) 45 50 68(3) 80(2) 83(2) 90 117 128(2) 144(2) 149(2)167 169(3) 170 177 180(3) 189(2) 210 211 235(3) 260 264(2) 265 282(2) 283(2) 285(2) 305 312(2) 326 328(2) 340(2) 345(2) 346 363(2) 386 392(2) 409 415 420 435(2) 439 453(2) 460 465 479(2) 481(3) 498 508 513(2) 520 525(2) 1979 Topps - 12 18(2) 28(3) 40 45 50(2) 68 77 80(3) 83 90 106(3) 108(3) 117 130 144 149(2) 169(2) 177 180(3) 189(4) 197 209(3) 210(3) 211 219 235(2) 240 260(2) 265(3) 282(6) 283(2) 285 302 305(2) 312(2) 313 326(3) 345 346(3) 363 365(3) 366(2)384 392(2) 409(2) 415(3) 420(2) 435(3) 439 453 460(2) 479(3) 481(2) 484 498(2) 527(5) 1980 Topps - 11 85(2) 123 146 161(4) 195(2) 217(2) 245 255(2) 310 403(2) 468 510 526 1981 Topps - 5 20 24 39 43 45 62 65(4) 98 109 120 141 148 161(4) 162 182 186 200 205 218(3) 219(2) 234(3) 240 255(2) 263 273 300 302 308(2) 322 329 333 340 344 364 369 382(2) 403(2) 423 429 445 449 453 466 487 489 493 510 514(2) 1982 Topps - 185 186 192 194 195 197(3) 199(2) 200(2) 268 371 378 478 493 1983 Topps - 86 87(2) 88 89 91 92 93 94 95(2) 96 163 165 166(2) 167 172(3) 173 293(2) 295(4) 296 297 298(3) 299(2) 300(6) 301(2) 302(3) 303(4) 304(4) 305(2) 306(3) 307(3) 1984 Topps - 97 98(2) 99(2) 100 101(2) 102(2) 103(2) 104(4) 105(4) 106 107 108(2) 109 110(2) 112(3) 113(3) 114 115(5) 354 355 1985 Topps - 7 149 151 152 153 154 155 158 159 160 161(2) 162 163 164(2) 165 1986 Topps - 60(2) 61(2) 62(2) 63(2) 64(2) 65(2) 66(2) 67(2) 68(2) 69(2) 70(2) 71(2) 72(2) 73(2) 74(2) 75(2) 155(6) 157 158(7) 159(7) 160(2) 162(7) 163(7) 164(7) 165(7) 166(6) 167(8) 168 169(8) 1987 Topps - 111(2) 113 114(2) 117(2) 118(2) 119(2) 120 121(2) 122(5) 123 124(2) 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 1988 Topps - 47 325 328 329 330 331 334 338 1989 Topps - 6 10 11 14(2) 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 1990 Topps - 8 73 82 1991 Topps - 25 35 354 550 567 The following OBCers should review what I'm sending and let me know if you still need the cards or not. Steve Hitzeman - 56T 14 98 Ron Perry - 56T 18 30 102 114; 57T 152 Richard Robinson - 56T 38; 59T 70; 62T 77 Bill Malson - 59T 70 76 Bob Reed - 61T 61; 68T 173 Rex Storman - 64T 45 49 52 55 57 60 61 63 Bob Donalson - 68T 37 71 80 121 156; 69T 248; 70T 231: 72T 169 220 235 Paul Biggs - 70T 14 39 57 64 100 109 130 146 207 245; 71T 9 16 24 38 44 59 81 94 100 110 136; 72T 22 24 28 38 50 54 62 69 74 81 86 90 106 108 109 124 128 Richard Kimball - 74T 245; 77T 415 445 513; 79T 405 520 Matt Heilenman - 59T 152; 71T 181 243 Coming soon - Basketball Cards Available List. If you do not have your wantlist posted for basketball cards send me your list and I'll see what I've got. I have alot more basketball card dups (1969 thru 1982 mostly and a lot of UV stuff also) than football. Thanks for reading this short note, Kent ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:57:20 EDT Subject: Trips Travels and other things To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com I haven't been very active lately because I am so busy at work. I will be traveling overseas again sometime in September and I may be moving to Washington, DC in the near future. I have applied for a position that will give me a promotion and put back in the manager ranks. If I do get the position I will finally get to visit Ft. Washington with the OBC crowd! I have tried to keep up with the group through reading the "Ramblings" and I always enjoy the postings. I hope to be more active in the near future. I am a little surprised to read postings soliciting trades and offers to sell cards. OBC has changed however, I know from experience it is not necessary to ask for trades. Trust me when I say if you send cards out to this group you will receive more than you send in most cases. I have accepted the fact that the old ways have long since been abandoned by a majority of this group and while I do miss the old ways I do enjoy some of the newer members and what they bring to the group. I personally will never request a trade for any cards in my dupes box if you need it all you have to is ask for it and I will mail it to you. I do understand that some feel it is OK to solicit trades and the selling of cards and I have accepted the fact that I am now in a minority in this group. I will be posting my wantlist and dupes in another message today. Meanwhile, all the best to all of you and happy collecting! Another Baseball Quote: "The history of other sports seems to begin anew with each generation, but baseball, that wondrous myth of twentieth century America, gets passed on like an inheritance." ------Stanley Cohen Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 14:58:40 EDT Subject: Trips Dupes To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com TRIPS DUPES BOX AVAILABLE August 4, 2003 BASEBALL DUPES ***IMAGES AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST*** 1952 MOTHER'S COOKIES 2, 61, 62 1955 BOWMAN 154, 200 1956 TOPPS 1957 TOPPS 115, 262 1958 TOPPS 134, 254, 460 1960 TOPPS 26, 36, 53, 74, 81, 84, 85, 86, 87, 89 1961 POST 89, 200 1962 POST 74, 132, 133, 135 1963 TOPPS 1966 TOPPS 5, 21, 36 (CATFISH HUNTER), 49, 68 1969 TOPPS 35 (JOE MORGAN) 1970 TOPPS 13, 19, 35, 38, 43, 44, 79, 80, 91 (2), 92 (2), 93 (2), 108, 113, 124, 127 (2), 131 (2), 132 (2), 265, 266 (3), 268 (3), 274 (2), 277, 278 (3), 324, 354, 361 (2), 374, 392 (2), 393 (2) 1970 TOPPS BOOKLETS 9 BOBBY MURCER 1971 TOPPS 2, 3 (2), 10, 12, 18, 27, 28, 41, 51, 52 (2), 57, 59 (2), 73 (2), 77, 84, 89, 102, 103, 108, 109, 110, 113 (2), 114, 124, 131, 132, 240 1972 TOPPS 15, 17, 19, 24, 39 (2), 53, 55, 57, 58 (2), 60, 65, 66, 73 (3), 77, 78 (2), 81, 97, 98, 99 (2), 109, 110, 111, 115, 118 (3), 119, 122, 124, 126, 129, 149 (2), 199 (2), 207 (3), 214, 231, 238 (3), 242 (6), 295 1973 TOPPS 11, 27, 40 (2), 68, 96, 97, 101, 118 (2), 161, 197, 211, 236, 290 1974 TOPPS 8 (4), 99, 213 (3), 228, 284, 294 (2), 354 (3), 405, 442, 466, 467, 498, 539 1974 TOPPS TRADED 51T (2), 62T, 63T (2), 139T (2), 151T, 165T, 175T, 186T (6), 270T, 313T, 348T, 373T, 428T, 486T, 579T, 616T, 649T 1975 TOPPS 54, 78, 316, 326 (2), 327, 330, 467 (2), 468, 626, 633 1976 TOPPS 26 (2), 27, 33 (2), 37 (2), 52, 110 (4), 116, 122, 136, 148, 155 (3), 162, 164, 171 (5), 181, 182 (2), 186 (2), 212 (4), 224 (3), 231, 232, 238, 247, 256 (6), 283, 287 (3), 298 (2), 302 (5), 309 (2), 312 (3), 320, 322, 328, 332, 333, 338, 364, 401, 403, 404, 410, 413, 424, 484, 491, 497 (2), 538, 552, 571, 572 (3), 576 (4), 577 (2), 584 1976 TOPPS TRADED 27T (19), 28t, 44T (12), 58T, 99T, 120T (10), 127T (13), 146T (15), 158T (16), 208T (17), 211T (14), 231T (15), 259T (10), 292T (11), 296 (14), 309T (15), 338T (11), 383T (14), 385T (14), 401T (17), 410T (12), 411 (17), 428T (10), 434T (15), 464T (15), 497T (15), 524T (17), 527T (14), 528T (15), 532T (13), 554T (10), 579T (12), 583T (15), 618T (14), 632T (17), 649T (17) CHECKLIST NO NUMBER (9) 1977 TOPPS 91, 97 (2), 195, 200, 275, 342, 408 1978 TOPPS 29 (5), 37, 38 (2), 43, 47 (2), 51 (2), 53 (3), 56, 64, 67 (5), 68 (4), 77 (2), 78 (3), 79, 85 (3), 93 (5), 102 (2), 106, 135 (2), 147, 154 (3), 157 (3), 177 (2), 186 (2), 187 (5), 191, 204 (3), 207 (2), 211 (2), 212, 216, 217, 219, 221, 224 (2), 225 (3), 228, 242 (4), 246 (2), 247, 248 (5), 249 (2), 252 (2), 260, 261 (2) 265 (5), 266, 271 (2), 273 (2), 276 (3), 281 (2), 285 (4), 290 (2), 296, 297 (3), 306 (3), 308 (2), 311 (5), 322, 323 (2), 326 (6), 327 (6), 343 (5), 349 (4), 354 (3), 364, 366 (3), 377, 388 (4), 394, 396 (2), 401, 406 (4), 414 (3), 425, 428, 436 (7), 437 (3), 441, 449 (4), 458, 461(4), 472 (3), 477, 487 (4), 496 (3), 502, 504, 511, 518, 527 (2), 538 (2), 539, 543 (2), 544 (2), 548 (5), 552, 554 (3), 555, 556, 557 (2), 561 (6), 562, 576 (2), 578, 579, 581, 585 (2), 587, 592, 604 (2), 611, 615, 617 (2), 619 (2), 621, 622 (2), 623, 624 (2), 625 (2), 626, 627, 632 (2), 634, 636, 638, 641 (3), 646 (5), 647, 657, 658 (2), 662 (3), 669, 679, 692, 693, 703 (4), 711, 712, 726 1979 TOPPS 1, 4, 23, 29, 39, 51 (2), 54 (9), 63, 67 (2), 77, 78, 85, 97, 104 (2), 130, 137, 154 (5), 179, 243 (2), 247 (6), 279, 303 (6), 327 (3),356, 405, 406, 408 (3), 418 (9), 429 (2), 455 (2), 461 (3), 468 (2), 470 (2), 528 (4), 531, 564, 580, 605 (15), 642 (3), 645 (3), 653 (5), 670, 671 (3), 676, 683 (6), 684 (2), 686 (4), 691 (6), 710 1980 TOPPS 12 (36), 15 (6), 16 (2), 34 (37), 35 (2), 36, 51 (5), 72 (5), 76, 84, 93 (2), 102 (4), 114 (2), 145 (2), 158 (50), 174 (2), 179, 183 (10), 184 (2), 211 (6), 246, 255 (7), 263, 264 (2), 284 (41), 317 (3), 327 (4), 373 (5), 379 (2), 387 (2), 397, 399 (5), 418 (4), 430 (8), 459 (2), 462 (34), 469, 471 (2), 486 (3), 489 (4), 491 (3), 502 (6), 504, 527 (13), 530 (3), 541, 549 (2), 558, 566, 572 (10), 585, 603 (4), 618 (3), 627, 642, 654, 665, 678, 687 (4), 717 (43) FOOTBALL DUPES: 1973 TOPPS 1976 TOPPS 21, 43, 165 (2), 189, 263, 292, 293 1977 TOPPS 141, 174, 200, 239, 246, 270, 275, 315, 336, 345, 412, 468, 525 1978 TOPPS 102, 122, 251, 323, 347, 498 1979 TOPPS 68, 235, 490, 503, 511, 512, 516 ================= To: Subject: ESPS Sunday Night Game Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:27:59 -0500 From: "wierzbickim" Hey, Everyone! Anybody else see or hear the unassisted triple play? The announcers said it was the 12th in the history of the game. Mike W ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:59:01 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: triple play From: bdangelo@aol.com We saw it here in the sports dept. and have to adjust the section. It is actually the 13th overall, and 12th in the regular season. ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:06:04 -0400 To: wierzbickim@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game From: ChicoD1@aol.com It was a VERY cool play to watch. And as much as I can't stand Morgan as an announcer (rates up there with Terry Woods not liking him as a ballplayer), he did a great job of pointing out how Furcal not covering on the steal created the opportunity. Just a SS's dream play. ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:06:06 -0400 To: wierzbickim@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game From: ChicoD1@aol.com It was a VERY cool play to watch. And as much as I can't stand Morgan as an announcer (rates up there with Terry Woods not liking him as a ballplayer), he did a great job of pointing out how Furcal not covering on the steal created the opportunity. Just a SS's dream play. ================= To: , Subject: Back in the saddle again Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:41:48 -0500 From: "meyergray" My friends, I have returned from my vacation to the Carolinas to find over 1000 emails in my inbox. I hope my mailbox tomorrow is half as lucky! As for the trip, I only got to play one round of golf (shortened to 16 holes because of lighting), but I did make quite the steal at a card-shop along the way, buying a box of 2500 or so offgrade cards (vg and lower) that range from 53 to 72, with a pile from 57 (nearly 300). I took nearly forty cards off my lists, and look forward to taking several off yours. If you feel that I owe you from a previous trade, feel free to drop me a line to make sure your wantlist goes to the front of the line. John Scott Gray jsg the younger ================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 20:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What's going on w/ John? To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Collins This is one of the first posts I've made to the ramblings server in awhile and I hope it finds everybody doing well. Things continue to be as they have all summer here in the middle of NC - RAINY! Just wanted to take a brief moment to share a few things that are going on with me at the moment. This Thursday and Friday I had orientation for my evening business school (MBA) program at Wake Forest University here in Winston-Salem. I am enrolling in a 2 year program that will allow me to continue to work while I go to school in the evenings. Classes don't start officially until August 25, but I got the distinct and clear impression from some of the folks I met over the last few days that this will be no cakewalk. 6 hours of classtime each week will be supplemented by somewhere between 25-30 hours of groupwork and individual study. So add that to a 40+ hour workweek and managing to find some family time here and there so my wife doesn't kill me........and I think you see where I'm going with this. Not that I have been exactly buring up the circuits with cardboard lately anyway, but I will very soon start to have a LOT less time for my hobby. I want to thank many of you out there who have been extremely generous in the area of keeping my mailbox stuffed with ballplayers lately -- it really hasn't slowed down. The OBC sprit indeed is still soaring high. My personal apologies for not having been more of a contributing part of it this year as I had intended to be. I won't be dissapearing completely -- though I may have less time I have a feeling that occasional contact with my favorite hobby will become even more important to me as a release in the days to come. Please just understand if you e-mail me about cards or a trade that it will sometimes take me awhile to get back to you, and in some cases you may even have to send an e-mail twice. (Okay, some of you have to do that already). Trust me the intent is not to ignore or dissapoint -- just know that I have a pretty full Thanks to everybody for both the cardboard and Take care, I'm an avid collector of pre-1980 Baseball Cards. Check out my online wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index/htm Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 00:04:05 -0400 From: "Bob Reed" According to the following website it was the 12th. They've even already updated it to reflect Furcal's play. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats8.shtml -Bob R >From: ChicoD1@aol.com >To: wierzbickim@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:06:06 -0400 >It was a VERY cool play to watch. And as much as I can't stand Morgan as >an announcer (rates up there with Terry Woods not liking him as a >ballplayer), he did a great job of pointing out how Furcal not covering on >the steal created the opportunity. Just a SS's dream play. Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 21:12:34 -0700 From: "Geordie Calvert" ESPN has been calling it the 11th occurrence all night - regardless of how long, there ain't been many. The Phillies' Mickey Morandini had the last one I think. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Reed To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game According to the following website it was the 12th. They've even already updated it to reflect Furcal's play. http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats8.shtml -Bob R >From: ChicoD1@aol.com >To: wierzbickim@ameritech.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ESPS Sunday Night Game >Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:06:06 -0400 >It was a VERY cool play to watch. And as much as I can't stand Morgan as >an announcer (rates up there with Terry Woods not liking him as a >ballplayer), he did a great job of pointing out how Furcal not covering on >the steal created the opportunity. Just a SS's dream play. Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?pagefeatures/junkmail Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:02:21 EDT Subject: Shoulda been the "Thanks" network! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: HMorgan707@aol.com Hi guys, I have been absent for awhile; finishing a new house in Maine and general family "things". It really hurt not being able to join you at The National, but was fleeing back to Maine that Friday, with a 1951 Studebaker truck in tow!! Much belated thanks to the following: Mark Zentkovich: a rare American Pie of Greg Luzinski. Who else was in that Jim Moleta, in Feb, sent a '55Bowman of Bill Miller to finish my set!! Andy Cook, in May sent a nice pair of Oldies: Philly Carmael of "Knabe" That was Knice of Andy! Andy also was so kind as to send along a George Darrow of the 1934 Phillies. A new name to me. Related to Clarence? Also, I realized a needed acknowledgement and thanks to old friend, Bob Farrell who enticed me to see out a Reggie JacksonPapa Gino disc. Wish I had some new "finds" to pass along, but will keep hunting in Maine this summer! Best regards to all. Howard "The Grizzled" Morgan ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:26:00 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@YahooGroups.com Subject: 66 blank backs? From: keithsummers@webtv.net I just found out that a dealer at the National had 100s of blank backs from the 60s including 1966s. He supposedly had a contact at Topps thru the yrs & acquired proofs & sheets. Anyone know his name? Anyone ever hear/see a 66 blank back? ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:20:02 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Phone and communication problems From: "mikesportsfan" The "Ziggy" cloud of strange luck continues to haunt me. Last week my phone line at home started acting up. It would cut out and then later come back on. I was told by the phone company that it was probably a short in the line and that it was inside the house. With the hours I have been working, I have not been home much to play with it or to meet a service repair guy. On Wednesday I called and canceeled the repair order as the phones were working at that time. Came home Thursday to no phones at all. Found a note that they had been out and the phones should now be fine. So fine, that they have not worked since. They claimed they would be back out yesterday to fix them. Came into work today, to find a message that they were not able to get to it. Supposedly today. I use a modem connection to the new at home. No phones no net connection available. I am typing this from work of course. So I apologize for not posting thanks (I know Andy sent me some Milk Duds, etc.) but will catch up if and when I get computer capability again. Mike Rich ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:45:06 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: A great day From: "mikesportsfan" Between work, health and other obilgations this has not been one of the more enjoyabkle years. I have barely spent any time outdoors this year and only been to 1 Tigers game (although that could be a blessing in disguise). Yesterday I had one of the best days of the year so far. Actually things started turning around on Saturday I left work at about 2:30 Saturday to go to a BB card auction an a mall card show. Not a whole lot at the auction but I did win 2 lots. One lot was a 100 card set of 1991 Negro League postcards. Series 1 of 2 by a company named Retort? I had not seen these before and thought they were neat. Also picked up a few things at the show, a 1958 YL Boros upgrade, a 1950 Remar Bread card (type card) and a dozen T-218s that Mark Talbot got me started on a few months ago. Getting close to 1/2 of the track & field stars. I then went to an antique store a few miles away that I had gone to with Ron & Earl a few months ago. We had seen a 1962 Tigers Yearbook at the time. I thought I already had. Turns out it is the only 1 I am missing from 1958-1993 when they stopped issuing them. It was still there for $28. While waiting for them to get the key to the case, I notice a friend who I went to high school with, walking through the parking lot to the restaurant next door. End up hooking up with him and another high school buddy for 1/2 off happy hour appetizers. Big mistake with my stomach, but a platter of chikcen strips and another of chicken wings for only $5 ea. was an enticement I could not resist. Left there and got to the 24 hour Post Office where I finally mailed out about 18 packages, 15 of which were OBC that I hoped to get out after the National. Sunday started by going downtown to a walk with HOF braodcaster Ernie Harwell. We had pre-registered and got our official I walked with Ernie T-Shirt and were able to get an autograph photo they had available. I had brought things to get signed, which they were not allowing. Either the photo or the T-Shirt. I had an 8 x 11 photo of myself with Ernie. He did agree to autograph in addition to the had out photo for me. Instead of doing the walk we headed to The Henry Ford at Greenfield Village for the World Championship of Historic BB. Ran into Earl Kilborne, and his son, at one of the games. Check out the name sof the teams in this 16 team tournament. Green field Village Lah-De-Dahs; Greenfield Village Nationals (exhibition only - not in tournament); Deep River Grinders, Rochester (MI) Grangers (2nd place); Ludington Mariners; Bonneyville Millers; Clodbuster Base Ball Club of Carriage Hill Farm (Champions and note Base Ball is 2 words in Historic BB); House of David Echoes; 1869 Cincinnati Red Stockings; Woodstock Actives; White River Base Ball Club; Ohio Village Muffins; Columbus (OH) Capitals; Canal Fulton Mules; Upton Base Ball Club of Sterling; Spiegel Groves Squires; Forest City Base Ball Club and the Kent Base Ball Club. Most teams came from Ohio, but at least 3 from Michigan. I am told 1 was from Canada, etc. Lots of fun and very different. I think most OBCers would love this if they have never seen it before. I know Ray Luurs participates. Check out the national website: vbba.com for vintage Left in the middle of the championship game due to rain looming and the Clodbusters breaking uop the Grangers 21-2 after 3 innings. I then went to a Beach Boys concert, at Pine Knob with some friends I had not seen in a while. It was completely packed with people sitting on the opposite (down) side of the hill, so they could not see the stage. Fortunately some of our group got there earlier enough and staked out a very small space for us to cram into. Best concert I have seen in a while with them doing all of the old music. With temps in the low 80s/high 70s it was perfect. Cards, sports, friends, OBCers, decent weather; what more could a guy ask for? Mike Rich ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:25:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: ESPS Sunday Night Game From: "Joe Isaac" How 'bout this one - the last 2 unassisted TP's were televised live on ESPN - Randy Velardi turned his on Memorial Day, 2000. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "wierzbickim" wrote: > Hey, Everyone! > Anybody else see or hear the unassisted triple play? The announcers said it was the 12th in the history of the game. > Wow! > Mike W ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: failure delivery To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman Content-Disposition: inline Note: forwarded message attached. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: Subject: World Series Ticket Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:58:20 -0400 From: "GEORGE MOORE" My neighbor, a former Phillies Fan, brought over an unused Phillies World series Ticket. The reason it was un used - it was 1964, a year that will live in infamy!. Imagine a 7 game lead with 10 games to go? (Ticket price He was wondering about the value of this ticket...doesn't want to sell it, just wants to know the value.. Any estimates from the OBC family? George (TigersGAM) Moore ================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: 1956 Topps FB #102 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Ron Perry A reply to your e-mail address bounced, so I'll reply here. I picked up 1956 Topps FB #102 at the National. Finally found time to update my wantlist. Can use all the others you've set aside for me. also, six outbounds in yesterday's mail. Trying to get caught up from some recent and some not so recent inbounds. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Back from the dead Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:13:22 +0000 From: "Brad Chambers" Hi OBCentates: Geez, it's been so long since I rambled many of you will be wondering "who the hell is THIS guy?" I want to thank the OBCAC for the reinstatement to active status. I will have to say my active status will be a little less active than it was in the beginning about ....geez, 6 years ago now I think. Time flies! But certainly more active than it was while I was on active duty. I will attempt to be a little better at checking wantlists and getting stuff out to people. From time to time I still get cards in regardless of my attempt to ignore all of you. Geno and Bob D'Angelo are the latest kind sirs, and although on active duty in Tampa for a while I never got to link up with Bob although we did manage a few phone calls back and forth. I'm trying to do the following: take care of this house and all that piled up while I was gone; keep Cheryl's (the Dutch Daulton fanatic for those who forgot or didn't know) dad's house up since he passed away last year; try and pack everything up in my mom's house in Knoxville and get it ready to move here (where it's going once it gets here is anyone's guess) and get the house sold (we moved her into a senior housing complex). And....oh, yeah, find a full time civilian job. I could tell you how the Mayor of Jackson Tennessee offered me a job then basically withdrew it when he found out I was on active duty, but that's another story. Thanks for allowing me to remain a member of such an outstanding group of people. Later today I will be submitting my wantlist to the server for the first time in ages. It IS up to date on the website, for what that's worth. And....anyone running Windows XP having troubles keeping it open, or are you getting the error msg and it shuts down in 60 seconds? Gateway has a great set of instructions for how to fix that on their website if you need help. It's a generic fix, not just Gateway related, but how to fix the XP security work problem. Thank God for the Navy and allowing me to both serve my country and have some income until the right civilian job comes around. Brad Chambers MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:27:34 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Inaugural Riverview Dupes Treasure Hunt From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, Here it is, the inaugural Riverview (Fla.) Dupes Treasure Hunt. Below you will find all vintage dupes I have to offer for this virtual hunt, from 1959 to 1980. If you need something, let me know; if it hasn't been taken, it's yours. Condition sensitive? Stay home, these are in the VG-EX range, some better, some worse. If it's a real beater, I will let you know before I send it. Have at em -- I am posting these on another traders' site and also on my Web page, so act now. Enjoy. 1959 Topps – 85 194 233 244 250 254 258 281 305 357 372 394 418 506 546 1960 Topps – 121 140 392 394 397 404 1961 Topps – 4 5 6 13 26 54 90 225 1962 Topps – 96 1963 Topps – 17 73 79 98 395 1964 Topps – 14 25 42 54 73 83 149 1965 Topps – 58 1966 Topps – 22 235 377 417 418 423 1967 Topps – 28 36 37 38 39 40 41 67 94 95 96 97 101 104 108 111 127 406 1968 Topps – 34 1969 Topps – 64 76 77 79 88 89 118 119 123 132 138 142 149 157 172 177 178 179 193 251 252 272 353 354 357 361 369 373 374 438 441 444 508 531 578 579 581 586 607 652 1970 Topps – 5 12 19 26 37 41 58 78 245 257 280 287 303 313 319 322 337 353 354 357 375 376 379 381 386 398 405 406 407 418 419 427 428 432 434 435 444 496 505 1971 – 1 26 43 46 51 55 90 125 142 144 156 157 159 61 171 174 209 214 223 227 235 238 242 255 256 310 334 514 535 1972 Topps – 2 5 6 7 8 14 17 24 27 30 31 42 44 48 53 55 60 61 62 64 65 67 71 73 77 81 83 84 100 112 119 121 122 129 139 140 148 149 157 167 176 178 182 183 185 194 201 203 209 217 218 222 227 228 229 233 237 287 291 294 316 322 323 345 348 351 372 376 378 418 424 462 464 477 501 519 522 533 542 608 613 618 619 621 624 646 648 650 689 1973 Topps – 30 40 54 64 76 79 87 93 99 105 106 212 1974 Topps – 3 4 6 12 37 63 67 81 82 86 107 116 121 129 136 142 143 145 148 149 156 157 158 161 163 167 168 169 170 171 175 177 182 184 189 191 193 210 232 233 240 242 259 262 266 269 286 294 303 305 318 324 326 341 348 358 366 377 372 387 413 421 425 426 429 435 444 453 458 462 465 472 473 498 498 520 526 546 547 548 566 1974 Topps Traded – 63T, 73T, Checklist 1974 Topps Team checklists – Cardinals, Cubs, Giants, Rangers, Tigers, Yankees 1976 Topps – 34 41 42 47 51 52 58 64 72 75 76 77 86 102 110 113 121 131 137 138 143 146 153 158 168 174 181 188 217 222 224 231 253 256 266 268 273 281 286 287 294 296 309 310 327 328 329 334 335 337 339 342 353 364 382 397 401 408 416 423 451 469 486 497 509 511 521 532 536 539 544 547 548 551 553 558 559 560 563 571 573 576 582 584 587 588 589 590 593 601 605 607 612 617 618 633 634 635 639 642 647 649 1976 Topps Traded – 44T, 80T, 410T, 583T, 529T, 579T, 618T, 632T, 649T 1977 Topps – 7 9 13 15 22 30 37 42 46 48 50 51 52 55 58 67 75 80 90 93 94 95 98 107 113 114 116 117 132 133 141 147 155 156 157 162 163 165 166 171 172 173 177 178 180 182 183 184 188 196 199 202 205 210 218 227 233 235 244 248 250 256 257 263 268 290 292 301 303 304 306 313 318 321 324 330 332 335 336 339 340 341 345 359 369 376 384 396 398 401 405 409 414 417 422 423 427 428 437 442 443 453 462 470 477 489 490 492 497 502 503 504 511 515 516 517 522 531 532 533 541 546 552 553 576 578 602 603 605 613 617 624 630 641 638 646 648 651 654 1978 Topps – 8 11 14 17 24 33 42 54 74 75 79 89 127 131 154 156 161 163 164 184 207 228 238 242 264 302 311 364 402 420 431 443 454 463 483 496 497 500 506 523 528 542 551 554 558 570 571 584 596 611 615 628 630 634 669 692 715 716 719 1979 Topps – 353 1980 Topps – 27 37 62 76 87 117 122 129 143 162 172 263 465 567 ================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: failure delivery To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: failure delivery Note: forwarded message attached. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:51:12 -0400 To: bradbaseballcards@hotmail.com ("Brad Chambers"), Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Back from the dead From: tply@aol.com Great to hear from you again! Glad you returned to at least the "Ramblings" and wish you the best in civilian life! ================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:57:17 EDT Subject: 1953 Split? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, vct@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com I've been approached about purchasing the following for $1,250: 53 TOPPS 241 DIFFERENT CARDS. 39 HIGH NUMBERED COMMONS THERE ARE 35 CARDS THAT BOOK OVER $40 INCLUDING Anyone interested in splitting it? Jeff D. ================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TRADE PARTNERS To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman I HAVE SOME 1950 BOWMAN AND SOME 1957 TOPPS AMONG OTHERS TO TRADE. I'LL TRADE FOR ANYTHING ON MY WANTLIST AND 1949 BOWMANS WHICH ARE NOT ON MY LIST BUT I HAVE A FEW. YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS. ANYONE THAT I OWE CARDS, AND I SURE THAT IS QUITE A FEW OF YOU, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. JOHN Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: Breaking Gus Z. news on ESPN! Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:01:33 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" ESPN just did a "did you know".... the player with the highest percentage of his home runs comming in multi-hr games..... Gus Zernial 27%!!! Go Gus! Where do they come up with this stuff!? ================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:52:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] triple play To: bdangelo@aol.com From: MARK TALBOT Hello All, Sorry I did not email you all before we left for vacation on Saturday but we did that. I am emailing you from the library in Lexington MI where the family and I are getting away from the city at our Church Family Camp. Many of you know that this is a annual event that I have been a part of now for 33 years. Well I will miss some of you over the coming days but will catch up on Monday the 18th - BE WELL!!!! REGARDS --------- MARK ----- Original Message ----- From: bdangelo@aol.com Date: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:59 pm Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] triple play >

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> ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:49:27 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Nylon Stockings & Wax From: "pugsmail" OBCers -- If you surfed in looking for kinky stuff -- sorry. I wasn't sure if everybody knew you can remove wax stains from the front of cards by rubbing them with a nylon stocking. DISCLAIMER: Removing wax stains by rubbing them with a nylon stocking will turn a Tipton condition card into a Tipton+. Rub at your own John Pugsley ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 831 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:09:16 -0700 From: "Diamanti" Will check on this tonight - have been VERY busy and away from computer fora week so just saw your e-mail yesterday. Mike Diamanti ----- Original Message ----- From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:04 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 831 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: There are 7 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Back from the dead From: "Brad Chambers" 2. Inaugural Riverview Dupes Treasure Hunt From: bdangelo@aol.com 3. Fwd: Fwd: failure delivery From: John Storman 4. Re: Back from the dead From: tply@aol.com 5. 1953 Split? From: jdelott@aol.com 6. TRADE PARTNERS From: John Storman 7. Breaking Gus Z. news on ESPN! From: "Sean McGowan" Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:13:22 +0000 From: "Brad Chambers" Subject: Back from the dead Hi OBCentates: Geez, it's been so long since I rambled many of you will be wondering "who the hell is THIS guy?" I want to thank the OBCAC for the reinstatement to active status. I will have to say my active status will be a little less active than it was in the beginning about ....geez, 6 years ago now I think. Time flies! But certainly more active than it was while I was on active duty. I will attempt to be a little better at checking wantlists and getting stuff out to people. From time to time I still get cards in regardless of my attempt to ignore all of you. Geno and Bob D'Angelo are the latest kind sirs, and although on active duty in Tampa for a while I never got to link up with Bob although we did manage a few phone calls back and forth. I'm trying to do the following: take care of this house and all that piled up while I was gone; keep Cheryl's (the Dutch Daulton fanatic for those who forgot or didn't know) dad's house up since he passed away last year; try and pack everything up in my mom's house in Knoxville and get it ready to move here (where it's going once it gets here is anyone's guess) and get the house sold (we moved her into a senior housing complex). And....oh, yeah, find a full time civilian job. I could tell you how the Mayor of Jackson Tennessee offered me a job then basically withdrew it when he found out I was on active duty, but that's another story. Thanks for allowing me to remain a member of such an outstanding group of people. Later today I will be submitting my wantlist to the server for the first time in ages. It IS up to date on the website, for what that's worth. And....anyone running Windows XP having troubles keeping it open, or are you getting the error msg and it shuts down in 60 seconds? Gateway has a great set of instructions for how to fix that on their website if you need help. It's a generic fix, not just Gateway related, but how to fix the XP security work problem. Thank God for the Navy and allowing me to both serve my country and have some income until the right civilian job comes around. Brad Chambers MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pagefeatures/virus Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:27:34 -0400 From: bdangelo@aol.com Subject: Inaugural Riverview Dupes Treasure Hunt Hi gang, Here it is, the inaugural Riverview (Fla.) Dupes Treasure Hunt. Below youwill find all vintage dupes I have to offer for this virtual hunt, from 1959 to 1980. If you need something, let me know; if it hasn't been taken, it's yours. Condition sensitive? Stay home, these are in the VG-EXrange, some better, some worse. If it's a real beater, I will let you knowbefore I send it. Have at em -- I am posting these on another traders' site and also on my Web page, so act now. Enjoy. 1959 Topps =E2=93 85 194 233 244 250 254 258 281 305 357 372 394 418 506 1960 Topps =E2=93 121 140 392 394 397 404 1961 Topps =E2=93 4 5 6 13 26 54 90 225 1962 Topps =E2=93 96 1963 Topps =E2=93 17 73 79 98 395 1964 Topps =E2=93 14 25 42 54 73 83 149 1965 Topps =E2=93 58 1966 Topps =E2=93 22 235 377 417 418 423 1967 Topps =E2=93 28 36 37 38 39 40 41 67 94 95 96 97 101 104 108 111 127 1968 Topps =E2=93 34 1969 Topps =E2=93 64 76 77 79 88 89 118 119 123 132 138 142 149 157 172 177 178 179 193 251 252 272 353 354 357 361 369 373 374 438 441 444 508 531 578 579 581 586 607 652 1970 Topps =E2=93 5 12 19 26 37 41 58 78 245 257 280 287 303 313 319 322 337 353 354 357 375 376 379 381 386 398 405 406 407 418 419 427 428 432 434 435 444 496 505 1971 =E2=93 1 26 43 46 51 55 90 125 142 144 156 157 159 61 171 174 209214 223 227 235 238 242 255 256 310 334 514 535 1972 Topps =E2=93 2 5 6 7 8 14 17 24 27 30 31 42 44 48 53 55 60 61 62 64 65 67 71 73 77 81 83 84 100 112 119 121 122 129 139 140 148 149 157 167 176 178 182 183 185 194 201 203 209 217 218 222 227 228 229 233 237 287 291294 316 322 323 345 348 351 372 376 378 418 424 462 464 477 501 519 522 533 542 608 613 618 619 621 624 646 648 650 689 1973 Topps =E2=93 30 40 54 64 76 79 87 93 99 105 106 212 1974 Topps =E2=93 3 4 6 12 37 63 67 81 82 86 107 116 121 129 136 142 143 145 148 149 156 157 158 161 163 167 168 169 170 171 175 177 182 184 189 191 193 210 232 233 240 242 259 262 266 269 286 294 303 305 318 324 326 341348 358 366 377 372 387 413 421 425 426 429 435 444 453 458 462 465 472 473 498 498 520 526 546 547 548 566 1974 Topps Traded =E2=93 63T, 73T, Checklist 1974 Topps Team checklists =E2=93 Cardinals, Cubs, Giants, Rangers, Tigers, 1976 Topps =E2=93 34 41 42 47 51 52 58 64 72 75 76 77 86 102 110 113 121 131 137 138 143 146 153 158 168 174 181 188 217 222 224 231 253 256 266 268 273 281 286 287 294 296 309 310 327 328 329 334 335 337 339 342 353 364382 397 401 408 416 423 451 469 486 497 509 511 521 532 536 539 544 547 548 551 553 558 559 560 563 571 573 576 582 584 587 588 589 590 593 601 605 607 612 617 618 633 634 635 639 642 647 649 1976 Topps Traded =E2=93 44T, 80T, 410T, 583T, 529T, 579T, 618T, 632T,649T 1977 Topps =E2=93 7 9 13 15 22 30 37 42 46 48 50 51 52 55 58 67 75 80 90 93 94 95 98 107 113 114 116 117 132 133 141 147 155 156 157 162 163 165 166 171 172 173 177 178 180 182 183 184 188 196 199 202 205 210 218 227 233235 244 248 250 256 257 263 268 290 292 301 303 304 306 313 318 321 324 330 332 335 336 339 340 341 345 359 369 376 384 396 398 401 405 409 414 417 422 423 427 428 437 442 443 453 462 470 477 489 490 492 497 502 503 504 511 515 516 517 522 531 532 533 541 546 552 553 576 578 602 603 605 613 617 624630 641 638 646 648 651 654 1978 Topps =E2=93 8 11 14 17 24 33 42 54 74 75 79 89 127 131 154 156 161 163 164 184 207 228 238 242 264 302 311 364 402 420 431 443 454 463 483 496 497 500 506 523 528 542 551 554 558 570 571 584 596 611 615 628 630 634669 692 715 716 719 1979 Topps =E2=93 353 1980 Topps =E2=93 27 37 62 76 87 117 122 129 143 162 172 263 465 567 Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: John Storman Subject: Fwd: Fwd: failure delivery Note: forwarded message attached. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com [This message contained attachments] Message: 4 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:51:12 -0400 From: tply@aol.com Subject: Re: Back from the dead Great to hear from you again! Glad you returned to at least the "Ramblings" and wish you the best in civilian life! Message: 5 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:57:17 EDT From: jdelott@aol.com Subject: 1953 Split? I've been approached about purchasing the following for $1,250: 53 TOPPS 241 DIFFERENT CARDS. 39 HIGH NUMBERED COMMONS THERE ARE 35 CARDS THAT BOOK OVER $40 INCLUDING Anyone interested in splitting it? Jeff D. Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:55:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John Storman Subject: TRADE PARTNERS I HAVE SOME 1950 BOWMAN AND SOME 1957 TOPPS AMONG OTHERS TO TRADE. I'LL TRADE FOR ANYTHING ON MY WANTLIST AND 1949 BOWMANS WHICH ARE NOT ON MY LIST BUT I HAVE A FEW. YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS. ANYONE THAT I OWE CARDS, AND I SURE THAT IS QUITE A FEW OF YOU, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED. JOHN Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Message: 7 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:01:33 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" Subject: Breaking Gus Z. news on ESPN! ESPN just did a "did you know".... the player with the highest percentage of his home runs comming in multi-hr games..... Gus Zernial 27%!!! Go Gus! Where do they come up with this stuff!? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Subject: Crystal clear water and sandy beaches Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:44:46 -0700 From: "Diamanti" Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings isso late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I am Kellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight more hours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and getus to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to be, and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even before the sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing for glory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent foundand brought our baggage, and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once they knew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers drove away. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series of rafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like a pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock with the bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed itor not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy.Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny,who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar -- find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and flies way below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy in some serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The west northwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shockingpink streak left the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain as we barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite ready for winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Or was it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What is this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by thelast night, I was putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boyswith my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherry bloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home island. Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to gohome, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pickus up 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossinglaundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhereas we locked the keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind of guy who doesn't break an oath. One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and ready to take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Crystal clear water and sandy beaches Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:02:10 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" Dear Kellen, Now that's a ramble of epic, classic proportion. Your prose has a flair that is seldom seen from us in the group affectionately known as the Sweat Sox crowd. While we stumble over adjectives designed to show our gratitude to each other, it would be nice to have the talent to eloquently portray images using just words as the only tool. You have done so quite vividly. Here is how others (like me) may have written the same rambling... We went ta Grant's house up in da woods. It was fun. Big Al got lost, but he mailed me some woodies which he thought was da samething. Thanks Al, and Thanks Grant for a swell time. ----- Original Message ----- From: Diamanti To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Crystal clear water and sandy beaches Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings is so late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I amKellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight morehours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and get us to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to be, and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even before the sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing forglory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent found and brought our baggage, and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once they knew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers droveaway. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series ofrafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like a pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock withthe bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed it or not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy. Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny, who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar --find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and fliesway below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy insome serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The westnorthwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shocking pink streak left the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain as we barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite readyfor winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Orwas it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What is this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by the last night, I was putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boys with my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherrybloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home island. Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to go home, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pick us up 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossing laundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhere as we locked the keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind of guy who doesn't break an oath. One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and readyto take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 04:43:58 EDT Subject: Correction and availables To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com OBC land, Last night I sent a note to Rick Ellison entitled, "FRIAR SCREWS UP." The subject of the note dealt with the thank you note I sent out yesterday. To make a long story short, I mistakenly requested a bunch of Post Cereal cards off of his waiver wire offer of a couple of days ago. After writing the thank you, I realized that I already owned those cards. They were on my "have list," not my "want list." Old age has obviously exacted its toll on the Friar. Anyway, after a quick consultation with Trips, we have decided to put them back out on the waiver wire. First come, first serve: '61 Post #89 '62 Post #74 132 133 135 Remember, they are from Trips if you get 'em. From me, you can get cards from my "Trade List" button at: http://www.cardcomplex.com/user_pages/friar41/ ================= To: ,"Diamanti" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Crystal clear water and sandy beaches Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:01:09 +0000 From: Glenn Question: How did a lady of such obvious wit and intellignece end up with our resident coffee peddlar? Terrific ramble, Kellen! You can sub in for Mike any time!! Glenn Codere Glasgow, Scotland > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Diamanti > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:44 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Crystal clear water and sandy beaches > Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings is so late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I am Kellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. > We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight more hours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. > As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and get us to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to be, and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even before the sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing for glory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent found and brought our baggage, and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once they knew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers drove away. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. > The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series of rafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like a pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock with the bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? > Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed it or not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy. Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny, who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar -- find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and flies way below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy in some serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. > For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The west northwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shocking pink streak left the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain as we barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. > The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite ready for winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. > Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Or was it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What is this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by the last night, I was putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boys with my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherry bloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home island. > Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to go home, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pick us up 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossing laundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhere as we locked the keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind of guy who doesn't break an oath. > One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and ready to take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. > Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ================= Date: 14 Aug 2003 13:01:40 -0000 To: "Diamanti" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Crystal clear water and sandy beaches From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Kellen, if you're not a published author, you should be. Even Grant's harrowing tales of mayhem on the island pale before your pen. You should tell Grant how to live at Savary without putting life and limb at risk. On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:44:46 -0700, "Diamanti" wrote : > Grant Rainsley has been wondering why my submission to the OBC Ramblings is so late. He doesn't understand that we just got home minutes ago. I am Kellen Diamanti, a last-minute substitution for Mike who had set up a five-day vacation at Grant and Jenny Rainsley's Savery Island getaway. Mike had organized a plan to take our son Dimitri and his buddy, Evan, a plan which cleverly would give him hours of solitude even as he acquired some solid real estate on the quality-time-moral-highground. But then he had to work. > We left Whidbey Island at 8:45 AM and convinced Canadian customs we were harmless by 11. Two ferries, 140 kilometers (or 5 amperes), and eight more hours later, we began searching the Lund hotel pub for someone willing to shift his cigarette and Smirnoff Ice to the same hand and boat us the last 5 kilometers (or .003 parsecs) to Savary Island. > As we bounced over the yacht wakes, our cheery Gilligan tried, without success, to raise someone by cell who might meet the Minnow at the dock and get us to Grant's. No such luck, but it was a bracing walk up the 10% grade, one-lane dirt road with cooler, two bags of groceries, and three packs. The fourteen year olds were just as accommodating and helpful as you would expect them to be, and we ditched our things after 1.25 kilometers (or 16 stone). Even before the sweat stopped flowing, rescuers began competing for glory. We got a hitch in the bed of a red pickup, a real estate agent found and brought our baggage, and others tried to help. Obviously, Grant, the ex-cop is feared, because the eagerness to assist and the bowing and scraping were embarrassing once they knew whose guests we were. I met him for the first time, there in the last glimmer of light as we the rescuers drove away. Truly, I flinched under the steely-eyed gaze of a man who spent 28 years keeping those rowdy British Columbians from crossing against the light. > The curtsies and genuflecting continued as Grant showed me around his white-sand paradise the next morning. Dimitri and Evan took the fistful of nails we slipped past customs and began building what turned into a series of rafts from driftwood. By the last raft on the last day, they had a craft that would have beat the Kon Tiki. They became a mini local attraction as they poled it, like a pair of Venetian gondoliers, out to the big rock with the bronze mermaid. A bronze mermaid? > Grant's former next-door neighbor, now deceased, was a delightfully eccentric soul who, like his fellow members of the Witness Protection Program living on Savary year around, loved his adopted home and undertook to grace it with an appropriate artistic expression. Other charming quirks included his insistence on changing the dishwater every two weeks whether it needed it or not and his use of diesel and a Bic lighter to clean his outdoor privy. Other friends include a former Hollywood cameraman, we'll call him Vinny, who believes that Bill Gates got a grubstake from the Knights Templar -- find a Crusades textbook. Vinny works as a carpenter these days and flies way below the federal "radar." Then there was a beautiful mother of three, known only as The Dragon Lady, who Vinny, Grant, and her husband, Percy, treated like she was coated with C4. In fact, Grant and Vinny got Percy in some serious hot water, but I'll let Grant fill you in. > For me it was three luxurious days of reading, beachcombing for sea glass, and pedaling Grant's Catalina Cruiser with the big-bottom seat. The west northwest view from the throne he chainsawed from a fir stump faced other islands whose lack of electrical power left them black when the last shocking pink streak left the sky. Then we would turn back to the cabin, muffling shrieks of pain as we barked our shins in the pitch dark, and fall into that kind of sleep you took for granted when you were a kid. > The cabin, by the way, is a lovely board and bat cottage, not quite ready for winter, but getting there. It's built out of trees Grant and Jenny had felled and milled right on site. Two huge pileated woodpeckers, a multi-generation clan of deer, and a very dignified cat paid visits. > Maybe it was the hippie tea house -- At the Mint -- and its Cool Whip grilled cheese sandwiches. Or maybe it was the lack of modern technology. Or was it just being Mike's stand-in with two high school freshmen. But I turned into one of them. Whereas on the ride to Canada, my son indignantly asked, "What is this with women's lack of interest in farts and poop?" by the last night, I was putting dead beetles on my shoulder and scaring the boys with my shrieks as payback for having fallen for the smashed bing cherry bloody gash that Dimitri scared me with. On the drive home, I fed them hotdogs and soda pop for breakfast. I didn't really come to my senses until I got back onto my home island. > Luckily Grant wasn't there to witness my total deterioration. He had to go home, but I understand he and Jenny will be up there in a few days. I hope everything is okay. I have some doubt because the land taxi came to pick us up 40 minutes early to catch the boat to the mainland. We were tossing laundry into the cooler and wiping syrup out of the refrigerator like three Jim Carrys on speed. Grant's idiot-proof list lay on the floor somewhere as we locked the keys in the trailer and flung ourselves on the flatbed taxi. One comfort is that Vinny is there to make sure things are okay. Vinny seems like the kind of guy who doesn't break an oath. > One dog sled, two ski lift, and six train rides later we were ready to sit in line at the border. Both boys were speaking fluent Canadian and ready to take up hockey. I was just sorry we only had five days. > Thank you, Rainsleys! Thank you! ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:55:53 EDT Subject: AOL- spare me the details on Ted's head To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com Hi- this is Linda- i think AOL has reached a new low in reporting taste- i get on my computer and the first thing i see is an article about Ted Williams head "being shaved , drilled with holes, and cracked 10 times"- Since AOL is obcessed with Ted Williams damage maybe i should send them an e-mail detailing all the tears, rips,writing and creases on my tipton 58 Topps Williams- Linda ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 15:29:20 EDT Subject: Have you seen this man? To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com, JGreco@us.imshealth.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Hi gang, I hope my recent lack of notes to the servers hasn't gotten any of you wondering if I went on the inactive list or something. There's a good explanation for it and as soon as I can think of something partially believable, I'll let you all know. Well, it's been a couple weeks since I was seen roaming the aisles at the National Convention. Any of those who attended couldn't help but notice where I was with my special OBC hat. Here's a brief recap of the weekend's events. (Shortened due to memory loss, but that's to your advantage.) WEDNESDAY: Arrived in Atlantic City in the afternoon and checked into the Super 8 motel. Called Steve Rittenberg, who was helping set up at the show and was also scouring all the bargain boxes before anyone else had a chance to look through them. My plans to purchase a dealer badge fell through, so I decided to rest up in the room and not drive there to meet him. Steve rooted out a badge for me and met up at the hotel shortly thereafter. The room we got wasn't exactly ideal, so we took a trip across the street and found one for less money that had two beds and was located on the first floor (a key requirement for two people with several hundred pounds of cards between them to carry around). So we checked out of the Super 8 about 3 hours after arrival. The only drawback to this was that I had already informed everyone I might meet that I'd be staying there for the first three days. Not much of a problem, since I had my cell phone with me - it just happens to be the same number as Steve's :-) THURSDAY: Got to the show and tried not to buy anything. I had a strategy that the dealers would lose money at the casinos and would be offering all the best deals on Sunday, so I wanted to save my money for this. Well, that was the plan anyway... I saw a few T205's on my list, mostly at the same table where there was a complete set available individually (but for sky high prices). The cards were kinda nice though. There was even a Hoblitzell marked $1250, but it had stats on the back, so I don't know where the dealer got that price. There were several Tris Speakers scattered about, but the lowest price I could find on one was $85. I didn't purchase a single T205 at the show. I couldn't even find any beaters for under $10. The problem with a big show like this is the dealers bring almost anything you could possibly want, but most of it is their better grade stuff. Somehow the reasoning is since you're paying $1000 for a table, you need to sell three super nice cards to break even. So the three hundred lower grade cards I might have purchased get left at home instead. I ended the day by playing in the annual UV FB card poker game and getting back to the hotel early in the AM. FRIDAY: With some help from Steve, I was able to finish off a couple UV sets and I located a bunch of hoops cards on my list on my own. I was still trying to go along with my original plan and just LOCATE the cards on my list for the bonanza on Sunday. This proved difficult. I guess my list is a lot harder than I thought? Kurt Tourdot's table yielded a bunch of the 1961 Topps Stamps I needed (that list is now down to one) and I located a few missing 1963's for my 2nd Topps set. I also spent some time looking for cards on other people's lists and was successful in completing a couple 1973 Topps sets in the process. Ended the day by continuing the poker game, which had now moved to a second location in western NJ about an hour away. SATURDAY: Made a cameo appearance at the show, since I was planning to switch hotels (free room at Harrah's that night). I left around noon and checked in early whereupon I hosted the continuing poker game. This was the third and final day and I was able to cash out with a few extra UV cards in my collection. (I'll use them to enter a football pool this fall.) Kicked everyone out of the room and headed over to the swap session. When I arrived at the hotel where the swap was supposed to be, I was surprised to discover a few people waiting around upstairs near the meeting room I had looked at a few days before. I was promised a room and was never asked for a deposit. After making a deal with the restaraunt downstairs, we had pizza delivered to our makeshift meeting room. Since everyone was at the same table and the area we had was tight, there wasn't a lot of movement. I barely said hi to the guys at the other end of the table. Most of the cards that traded hands were with the people in my immediate vicinity. This coupled with the lower than expected turnout (12 out of the 20 OBC'ers who made it to the show) made for a somewhat disappointing evening. I hereby vow to make year's swap in Cleveland much better. It really couldn't get too much worse. Since the UV poker was finished, I spent some early morning hours after the swap doing some real gambling in the casino (the only time all weekend). I hit a slot machine for $75 in quarters before heading up to the room before the show on Sunday. The bad news is that I was already down a couple hundred before finding that slot machine. SUNDAY: The Day of Reckoning for my plan - it turned out to be another in a long line of my foolish notions. Not only could I not locate cards on my list to swoop in on for last second bargains, but it was hard locating DEALERS at the show on Sunday. The turnout was so sparse, that many of them decided to just pack it in at noontime. A couple hours before the show closed and there were entire sections in the hall with less than a handful of occupied tables. The only real deal I could come up with was a 1967 high number to finish off my set. I signed up for Naxcom.com and they gave you a $10 certificate good at any table in the place. I convinced a dealer to accept the coupon in exchange for the Shaw/Sutherland RC, which happened to be marked $10, so it was like finishing off my set for free. I still haven't logged onto the Naxcom site yet. My final stop was at 707's for some 48 Leaf SP's. I bought his 4 cheapest ones, each of which cost more than I had spent at the show any one day prior to that. I decided to forgo the free night at Bally's and spend it at Steve's on my way south to Charlotte instead. We made plans for a Saturday swap session on my return trip and I left early the next morning before Steve started his new job. Fast forward to that following Saturday. I got to Steve's slightly ahead of my anticipated 5 PM arrival time and found out that the swap session would be Steve, Andy Cook, and me. After not starting any new sets in Atlantic City, Steve managed to wrangle me into a non-sport set of all things! I now need about a dozen cards for some ridiculous lighthouse set that I'm giving to Mom should I ever complete it (or as soon as I grow tired of collecting them, which is imminent). After splitting a pizza and swapping a few cards with Andy, I took an extra long nap and left for home the next day. I was eager to get things going for the auction (which will be in full gear by this weekend!!) and I also wanted to get back to playing softball. Before I left Steve's, I got an e-mail from my brother telling me I had left the power adapter to the laptop at his house. The battery is good for a couple hours, but once that was dead, there was no way to recharge it until he could mail it to me. That was part of the reason for my recent invisibility. Getting back into the groove at work also contributed somewhat. I work in the dairy department now. Some of you may not know this (as well as at least one person I work with), but just about everything in the department has a date on it. Well, the older product is supposed to be rotated out first - another good plan that was foiled. It took me all week to weed out the stuff that went bad in the two weeks I missed. Then when I had everything straightened out, the night crew chief decided to go on a vacation of his own. And guess who was elected to take his place in the grocery dept. in his absence? At least I can keep an eye on my replacement this time... and it's not the same idiot who screwed things up last time. But for now I'm King of the Nitwits. I love my job. This brings us to last Saturday, when Bob Donaldson stopped by to help out with splitting up the cards for the auction lots. He took a bunch home to scan and write up descriptions, There's a couple other lots that require a digital camera and Spike has agreed to drop by this Saturday to take care of those. Tonight is my night off, so I plan to start posting some lots nad continue on Saturday. I will make a separate announcement when I've posted a bunch of stuff, so don't worry about the people that have fallen asleep reading this not getting the message. Another reason for my lack of messages: I'm in three softball leagues this summer. One team was eliminated from the playoffs while I was away, the Everett team I'm on was finishing out the seaon and getting ready for the playoffs (we ended up 4th out of 10 teams), and the third team is in danger of not making the playoffs at all (actually it's going to take a lot of help to go to the post season). My first game back saw me playing first base. In the second game of a doubleheader, I got a ground ball and had a footrace to the bag to beat the batter. In order to avoid a collision (which I would've probably ended up being the worst off of the two), I went into a semi-slide on one knee. The good news was that I beat him to the bag for the out. The bad news is that the infield was similar to asphalt and I turned my right knee into something resembling hamburger. Last Friday for the first time in 20 years, I wore shorts to work. Then last night, just as the wound was finally starting to heal, I did it again! This time it was a stupid baserunning trick. Our first playoff game for the Everett team. I was on first base and there was a clean single into center. I rounded second and got the outfielder to throw to second trying to pick me off getting back. The throw went wide and I delayed a little going to third (I was dead if the throw there was good). Well, the throw there went astray too, but not before I slid into third - on the same knee. I did score on the play, but with a limp and a wet spot below the kneecap. I'm all taped up now and ready for tonight's tripleheader (one game in Brookline and possibly two games in Everett - depending on whether we eliminate the other team in the best of three palyoff series in the first game). Well, that pretty much brings you up to speed on what's been going on around here. Good thing it's been kinda slow or I would've typed a lot more Before I go, I'd like to thank the kind gentlemen who added cards to both my collection and the auction in the last couple weeks. Most of them were in Atlantic City, but a few others arrived in the mail during my absence. Unfortunately, the individual pacakages I hadn't sent out thanks for already got lost in the shuffle when we split up the lots. Thanks to those who were able to join me at the National as well. It's always great getting together with OBC'ers, even if it's in a dark corner of some crummy restaraunt or at a table in the expo center with an outrageously overpriced salad... Thanks again to those who took the time to look at my list and even bigger thanks to those select few who managed to hit it. Sorry I can't give out specific thanks though (due to a combination of bad memory and total chaos with the record keeping). Now gentlemen, get ready to start your bidding. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:23:44 EDT Subject: A Heart Breaker in Oakland! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com I just returned from the final game of the A's vs Red Sox. What a heart breaker! Now I am torn who to root for when the Red Sox play Seattle this weekend. If The Mariners win the A's could get the Wild Card, if the Red Sox win the A's could slip in to first place inthe AL West! ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Heart Breaker in Oakland! Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:30:47 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Root for the Sox. If they win it will make Steinbrenner mad. Plus it's better to go for 1st than the wild card. p.s. I think the A's are the team to beat in the AL! ----- Original Message ----- From: tply@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A Heart Breaker in Oakland! I just returned from the final game of the A's vs Red Sox. What a heart breaker! Now I am torn who to root for when the Red Sox play Seattle this weekend. If The Mariners win the A's could get the Wild Card, if the Red Sox win the A's could slip in to first place inthe AL West! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Heart Breaker in Oakland! To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Hey Trips, M's for the sweep, baby. Sadly, there's no future for Oakland and first place. ;) - Spike --- tply@aol.com wrote: > OBC, > I just returned from the final game of the A's vs Red Sox. What a heart > breaker! Now I am torn who to root for when the Red Sox play Seattle this weekend. > If The Mariners win the A's could get the Wild Card, if the Red Sox win the > A's could slip in to first place inthe AL West! > Trips Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A Red Sox ponderable To: obc ramblings From: Matthew There's a simulated Fenway Park scoreboard hanging on the wall in a Cambridge, MA burger joint near "Hahvahd Yahd." It shows the score (2-0 Red Sox leading in the bottom of the first) and pitching matchups for the rest of the day's games. Below the board is a question--"What game is this?" It's entirely possible it's no real game at all, but on the off chance that it's a game of significance, who would know better than us? The important keys are: 1) Boston is playing Baltimore. 2) The Boston starting pitcher is #15, Baltimore's is #18. 3) Next batter is #25, I assume for the Red Sox. The Fenway scoreboard, for those who haven't seen it, uses yellow score numbers for the current inning, then changes them to white after the inning. The "2" is in white, so it's possible #25 is batting in the top of the 3rd, but there's no "0" in that column, so I assume the Red Sox. 4) The Mariners and Blue Jays are on the scoreboard, Tampa is not. The Angels are in California, not Anaheim. Somewhere between 1977 and the early 90s, then. I can get more matchups and starting pitcher numbers, but that's a start. Are there any significant Oriole / Red Sox games in Fenway from that era that spring to mind? First Ripken game? Last Yaz homer? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 00:40:51 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Heart Breaker in Oakland! To: obcbobd@comcast.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Bob - My thoughts exactly! Go Red Sox!!! ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Fw: [OBC-Announcements] ***RICK REDPATH AUCTION IS ON!!*** Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 09:18:18 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=ken_m Bid early and bid often! > Oops, I forgot to mention that my ebay ID is ken_m in case you were > wondering. TAYL, > Ken M > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Announcements-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Subject: Redpath Auction Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 07:34:56 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" For once, I am happy to see the Evilbay "You have been outbid" notice in my Thanks Ken and Bob for the fine work!! ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Redpath Auction Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:37:49 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Yes, this is the one time when it is 100% OK to overbid a fellow OBCer! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Rainsley" To: Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 10:34 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Redpath Auction > For once, I am happy to see the Evilbay "You have been outbid" notice in > mailbox... > Thanks Ken and Bob for the fine work!! > Grant > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:25:40 -0400 To: grains@dccnet.com ("Grant Rainsley"), OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Redpath Auction From: tply@aol.com What Redpath Auction? Did I miss the notice? What is the Ebay seller name? Did the auction start without a notice going out to OBC or did I miss it? ================= To: "\"Grant Rainsley\"" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Redpath Auction Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:49:21 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=ken_m It's under the id of ken_m. See link above. He will be posting stuff through out the day/night. BTW, I think it's rather appropriate that the ending date for most of the auctions will be August 22nd. The birthday of Yaz! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ""Grant Rainsley"" ; Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Redpath Auction > What Redpath Auction? Did I miss the notice? What is the Ebay seller name? Did the auction start without a notice going out to OBC or did I miss it? > Trips > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 18:55:14 EDT Subject: junk mail from my address? To: OBC-Ramblings@Yahoogroups.com From: malsman250@cs.com I just came back from a trip, it appears that somehow someone may be using my address to send junk mail. Would someone confirm if this is the case, so that I can figure out what to do? Bill Malson ================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:27:21 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Redpath Auction To: TPLY@aol.com, grains@dccnet.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Once again I shot before my powder was dry! I found the auction! ================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 20:29:54 EDT Subject: Fwd: Warren Spahn To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com I received the following message from our old friend and OBCer Chatha! ================= To: Subject: FW: Johnny Kerr Baseball Cards Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:02:44 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Can anyone help this chap out? Maybe a list of cards issued for Mr. Kerr? Sounds like a worthy quest on Larry's part! Thanks, Grant Hello Grant, I just found the link to your organization site through a Pacific Coast League card for sale on Ebay. Since this site listed you as the ‘Keeper of the Directory’ I thought I would ask you if there is a link to ask your members for help locating my grandfathers cards, Johnny F. Kerr, from his pro and minor league career. I am collecting these cards for my family members (mom and sis) and myself to frame for each of us. I have sports memorabilia to go with these cards to make the framed work complete. He was a utility infielder with the majors from 1922 through 1924. His minor league career is very sketchy as his scrapbooks my grandmother kept were taken and never returned by someone my mom trusted that was writing a book about baseball in that era. I have Some of the Diamond Greats (reprints) and the popular Goudy cards from his career (Chicago & Senators). I came across a couple of photos a gentleman in Washington state had of him with the Salt Lake City Bees, a team we didn’t know he had played with. I have seen photo copies of Exhibit and Zeenut cards of his minor/PCL cards but have never had anyone have a copy up on the blocks as of yet. The Hollywood Stars would be the one we know of. Also, I have never seen anything from his days with the Detroit If you, or anyone in your organization, would be willing to share their collection with our family I would be more than willing to pay the going rates for these. These are not for resale and would be kept in our family only. I appreciate any help you could direct my way. Thank you. Larry Knight This email and any files transmitted with it from the ElPaso Corporation are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 20:43:49 +0800 To: Ramblings Subject: Thought this was interesting and perhaps helpful to someone you love From: Lynn Miller Very interesting in light of what happened in Fort Collins. I never even knew about this #77 feature! This actually happened to someone's daughter. Lauren was 19 yrs old and in college. This story takes place over the Christmas/New Year's holiday break. It was the Saturday before New Year's and it was about 1 PM in the afternoon, and Lauren was driving to visit a friend. An UNMARKED police car pulled up behind her and put his lights on. Lauren's parents have 4 children (high school and college age) and have always told them never to pull over for an unmarked car on the side of the road, but rather wait until they get to a gas station, etc. So Lauren had actually listened to her parents advice, and promptly called #77 on her cell phone to tell the police dispatcher that she would not pull over right away. She proceeded to tell the dispatcher that there was an unmarked police car with a flashing red light on his rooftop behind her. The dispatcher checked to see if there was a police car where she was and there wasn't and he told her to keep driving, remain calm and that he had back-up already on the way. Ten minutes later 4 cop cars surrounded her and the unmarked car behind her. One policeman went to her side and the others surrounded the car behind. They pulled the guy from the car and tackled him to the ground....the man was a convicted rapist and wanted for other crimes. Most people never knew that bit of advice, but especially for a woman alone in a car, you should not pull over for an unmarked car. Apparently police have to respect your right to keep going to a "safe" place. You obviously need to make some signals that you acknowledge them (i.e. put on your hazard lights) or call #77 like Lauren did. Too bad the cell phone companies don't give you this little bit of wonderful information. So now it's your turn to let your friends know about #77. Please pass on to any females that you know. ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:35:09 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Thought this was interesting and perhaps From: Gary Pearce At 07:43 AM 08/16/2003, Lynn Miller wrote: >Very interesting in light of what happened in Fort Collins. I never even >knew about this #77 feature! That's because it's not a universal feature. Some states use *55, *47, or *HP, and some states don't even have a special code to connect to the state For more info, you can check http://www.snopes.com/horrors/mayhem/fakecop.htm ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:20:46 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Thought this was interesting and perhaps helpful to someone you love or know From: "rayluurs" This particular story hits close to home. It happened 16 miles from where we call home and the city where my wife work for the USDA. The low life that took her life gained her trust by using skill he gained in a youth police academy sponsored by the school and police force (this is not an inditement on either as I always thought it was a good program until this happened). The program was set up on the lines of DARE where police, parents, schools and students work together to rid their neighborhood of problems. This program basically taught them what to do in certain situations until the police there. i.e. first aid and things like that. This low life apparently took it one step further. He got info on where and how to get the lights that the unmarked cars use ( they plug into cigarette lighter) and he used the badge issued by the police while he was in school (to the unsuspecting it looks real). While Lauren did everything right for one brief moment she let her guard down which cost her life. He was a few weeks short of entering the military and one wonders if the police would of been able to make the connections with him away. What was particually unnerving to me, was after they arrested the guy they still couldnt find the body of Lauren. This went on for yet another few weeks. The afternoon they found her I was making a deleivery to Steamboat Springs about three hour drive from Ft. Collins. I left early in the morning and they found the body later that day when light came out. She was found about 4 or so miles off the road I had taken in a wooded area. I wonder how many times i drove past that place..........with her being buried there and not knowing. I rationalize by saying how could I've known but then I didnt take the time to look either. Even though I didnt know family somedays it strike me and i get real depressed like I let the family dowm a little. ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 10:28:12 EDT Subject: re: addemdum to my previous story To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com I apologize for misreading while the story is true it was another person apparently. The young lady i was laking about lost her life to this person imperosnating an officer but it also happened during Christmas break and it happened in Ft. Collins also. The best part of both story was they caught the low lifes so no other woman will be violated by these two. Thanks for the info Lynn ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:03:13 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@YahooGroups.com Subject: 33 Goudey PSA3 #214 Kerr $22 (click link below 4 it & other old From: keithsummers@webtv.net ================= To: Subject: It's the weekend Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:04:05 -0700 From: "Brian Lindholme" OBC world, It's the weekend, which is my eBay time, so all of those who are bidding inthe Rick Redpath auction beware !! Because of my laziness, and superb procrastination ability, I didn't get any cards out to Ken for this great auction...so I decided to simply bid likecrazy to show my support for my pal Rick & his family. If you really want the cards that I bid on, but I end up being high bidder...just ask, I mightjust send most of them away after I look at them for awhile... A heartfelt thanks to those behind this auction. It is amazing and touchingto be part of this great group. Thanks OBC, you are the greatest !! I'm off to check through the lots one more ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:19:37 EDT Subject: Strike Out at the ECN To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com I went to the East Coast National today. Although I wore my OBC hat, I went unrecognized. I kept up my streak of losing cards at Gloria Rothstein shows to four; this time it was a '65 Stottlemyre for which I paid $4. I also kept up my streak of buying cards that I already had to six; this tie a 1954 Rocky Nelson. I think in the future I'll save myself from continuing those streaks by restricting myself to eBay and the National if it's ever on the East Coast ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:23:41 EDT Subject: strikeout available To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com I almost forgot, I paid $6 for a 1969 Perry WL, only to learn when I returned that it is the YL. Any takers? ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: twice-a-year interuption... Already!!! Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 20:40:01 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" for those of you who don't know, I buy a couple cases of topps each year from a guy in NJ. Then I send them out to guys in OBC who still like to open packs. I charge my exact cost + exact shipping. I just got word from my connection that it is time for him to order the 2004 series 1 (topps has been issuing 2 series for the last several years) for delivery around Nov 1. Wow! The price is the same for me as it was last year, so a box (36 packs, about 10 or 11 cards) will cost you $40 + shipping. I do this becasue I am a wonderful guy... :) And, I get the boxes for $40 because I don't have to mail them to myself! :) So, let me know if you want a box, or two, or three (four if you are really sick) So that I can tell my connection how many cases I need. Thanks, and now, back to your Old stuff. You won't hear from me again until Feb or so. pardon the interuption ================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:32:58 EDT Subject: Satellite Rick's auction To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com As always I'm behind the curve on the happenings of OBC. A few weeks ago there was a discussion about 64 Topps #581. It seems as though it is a card that is missing from most collections. I have come across the card and instead of sending it out, I would like to put it up for auction with the proceeds going to Ken for the Redpath fund. Please be advised that feedback will be left on the OBC thanks server rather than Ebay. I have never been much for grading cards but would give it a BTM rating (better than most). Therefore, let the bidding begin...bid early and often. Bidding closes 8/22 . Send your bids to Topgolf@aol.com Rest well, ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Jimmy Reese Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:07:55 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" From: "Dennis Reese" To: advisory@oldbaseball.com Subject: Inquirery Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 23:11:54 -0500 I am not an avid collector of old sets, or even new sets. I am an avid collector of Andy Reese of the 1927-30 New York Giants, 1931 Oakland Oaks, 1932-1943 Memphis Chicks. If any of your members have any of Andy's cards (1928-R315; 1929-4 in 1 w/Ott,Terry, Benton; 1931-4 in 1 w/Ruth, Gehrig, Lary; and 1931-Zeenuts) I would love to look at a trade or purchase. The card with Ruth and Gehrig has the name James Reese but it is my grandfather's picture. I see one of your members has an auction with the zeenut card listed which is where I learned of your website. Thank you for any help with my search. Dennis C. Reese ================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:51:38 EDT Subject: Availables To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Been trying to hit some wantlists this weekend, but I have some leftovers. Let me know if you need anything from this list. Year Brand Cards Available 1954 Topps 24vg 1959 Topps 431g 1961 Topps 220g-vg 1966 Topps 5vg 14vg 16vg 45vg 78g 85g 86vg 95g 109vg 136vg 138vg 139g 146g 149g 155g 158g 166vg 192vg 193f-g 206g-vg 270p 1969 Topps 45g (crease - Wills) 53vg 62f 88g 1970 Topps 60g-vg 87vg 89g-vg 91f 105vg 113g 128g (cl marked) 277vg 420vg 454vg (Santo AS) 1971 Topps 374vg (Clete Boyer) 1972 Topps 57g 1978 Topps 567g(miscut) 1980 Topps Near mint unless otherwise indicate 12(2) 24(2) 32(3) 71(2) 94(2) 115(Lyle-2) 161 222(2) 223 224(3) 317 337(Lansford) 366 367ex 399(3) 399g 418 425(Belanger) 431 441 443vg 504 ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] A Heart Breaker in Oakland! Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 11:10:35 -0600 From: "Todd Knowles" As a lifelong Red Sox fan and a former Mariners season ticket holder, I was torn. However, my wish is for Boston to win today, and Oakland to lose, thus the Sawx gain a game and Seattle doesn't lose one to the Sorry Trips, but this is the way it has to be. Actually, in a perfect world, the Sox will pass the Yankees and win the AL East, and Oakland wins the Wild Card. Then everyone's happy except Steinbrenner. Perfect. ================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:18:05 EDT Subject: test To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Posted to these two places a couple of hours ago, and I have not seen it yet. Anyone else having problems? ================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 15:20:43 EDT Subject: Availables To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Seems to be working now. Here is what I tried to send earlier: Been trying to hit some wantlists this weekend, but I have some leftovers. Let me know if you need anything from this list. Year Brand Cards Available 1954 Topps 24vg 1959 Topps 431g 1961 Topps 220g-vg 1966 Topps 5vg 14vg 16vg 45vg 78g 85g 86vg 95g 109vg 136vg 138vg 139g 146g 149g 155g 158g 166vg 192vg 193f-g 206g-vg 270p 1969 Topps 45g (crease - Wills) 53vg 62f 88g 1970 Topps 60g-vg 87vg 89g-vg 91f 105vg 113g 128g (cl marked) 277vg 420vg 454vg (Santo AS) 1971 Topps 374vg (Clete Boyer) 1972 Topps 57g 1978 Topps 567g(miscut) 1980 Topps Near mint unless otherwise indicate 12(2) 24(2) 32(3) 71(2) 94(2) 115(Lyle-2) 161 222(2) 223 224(3) 317 337(Lansford) 366 367ex 399(3) 399g 418 425(Belanger) 431 441 443vg 504 ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: cheap 1957 Ted Williams on ebay Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:25:20 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2747754167 Ends Tuesday 1:30pm EST ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Cheap 1956 Mantle on ebay Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:47:18 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16271&item=2747966637 ends Wednesday 8pm ================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eBay jump start to the 70s To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Here's an auction for a mess of cards from the 70s, apparently glued to construction paper. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2748256808&category=44821 $5 opening bid, 20 shipping Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC" Subject: OBC Auction Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:51:45 -0400 From: "larry.tipton" Thanks Ken and everyone for sending cards and for bidding. The ebay auctionlooks like it is going great! ================= To: "OBC" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Auction Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:04:57 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" It's especially nice to see that the high bidder for just about every lot is an OBCer! ----- Original Message ----- From: larry.tipton To: OBC Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:51 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Auction Thanks Ken and everyone for sending cards and for bidding. The ebay auction looks like it is going great! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Dexter Press Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:23:30 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Does anyone know if there are plastic pages for storing these cards, besides a full 8x10? p.s. I have an extra Jim Bunning if anyone wants it ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: 1950 Bowman Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:24:35 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Could someone give me the approx measurements of the 1950 Bowman BB cards? ================= To: Subject: T-218 Questions Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 15:31:50 -0400 From: "Brian Dwyer" Can anyone tell me the number of cards in this set and whether or not the equivalent of a high series or scarce cards exists? Also, where can I find a checklist of the cards in this set? Thanks in advance. ================= To: Subject: Redpath Auctions Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:36:02 -0700 From: "Diamanti" Well Guys and Gals: I just had to write and gush about the FAB-OOHH-LUSH job Ken 'CardClctr' Morganti has done with the auction items for Rick Redpath's family. I was sotouched to read the personal note about Rick's family under the item description for each auction. What I find so exciting is that complete strangers who want to help out are going to challenge us OBCers by bidding up theseitems, also, thus increasing our efforts to help the Redpaths. My hat is off to all the OBCers who sent cards, helped Ken, and continue to bid thesebeauties up into the stratosphere. Not only are we mighty as a group of people, but Ken has contrived to pull in others to assist us in our efforts and make it an even bigger success. WOW! I must also admit to writer's envy after reading my wife's ramblings recently devoted to Slavery, er Savary Island. She is a technical writer/science/medical writer by training, but she loves the essay form and has a great eye for detail......and the insane Canadian details made for great reading. Grant and Jenny are up there now - I shudder at the possibilities..........Whaaddagroup. OBC, then the universe..........Mike Dee ================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:18:29 EDT Subject: Mayaguez Indios To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com I am looking for information on the Mayaguez Indios a semi-pro team in Puerto Rico during the '40s. Any cards, photos, info. anything!!? will help. If anyone can, OBC can. ================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:31:37 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: I Need A Little R&R From: "pugsmail" OBCers -- Gonna head out of town for a few days. Thanks in advance for any inbounds. I'll catch up on my formal thank you's when I get back. John Pugsley ================= To: Subject: college fb all-star games Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:24:40 -0700 From: "terry ellis" can anyone tell me the year they stopped having super champs play the all stars? I know why just don't know when. kit a ================= To: Subject: Photo Op Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 21:00:36 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" I acquired a couple of photos that need a good home: 1. Willie Smith (Detroit Tigers). This is an 8 x 10 black and white head and shoulder shot. The Detroit affiliation dates this photo to 1963 - his first year in the majors. This is an AP photo with editorial markings on the 2. Lonnie Smith (St. Louis Cardinals). This is an 8 x 10 color action shot of Lonnie at bat. This would be from the early 80's. Any takers? -Dave Fallen ================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:51:53 EDT Subject: Wow!! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: XTrJmx@aol.com Hi all... being *just a bit* compulsive and curious, I went out to Ebay and did a little tally of the Redpath auction. As of 4:30 Central time, there was a cumulative total of $1,935.63 in bids on auction goods and ANOTHER $595.01 donated to the Redpath fund auction item for a cumulative total of $2,530.64... and that's before *any* auction items have officially ended (and before I've had a chance to snipe ya! )!!! HOLY COW!! Great work, gang!! I've been awful about getting a package out to Ken with a small additional number of items for the auction, but that will be taken care of today. Take care and KEEP BIDDING!! :-) ================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:15:40 -0400 To: Brian Dwyer Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T-218 Questions From: Mark S Talbot Great Question Brian,

    Well at least I think so, since I am particularly fond of the T-218 set.  I am well on my way to completing the set and have given away many dupes of this issue.  Here is some info on the set:

      The cards have three different backs - Mecca, Hassan, and Tolstoi with Tolstoi being the most rare.  I have also seen Miner's Extra and Honest Long cuts and without a Tobacco affiliation.  The set includes track stars, swimmers, a walkers, a roller skater, boxers, golfers, bowlers, and billiards players.  The cards are not numbered.  I had been getting the cards for about a few bucks a card until last year when apparently they increased in popularity. The track stars are by far the easiest to find Brian, then the boxers with all the other categories much more difficult to find (and therefore more pricey).  Below is the checklist with a total of 153 cards with different poses included:

Track Stars & Aquatics (62)

Platt Adams
Dan Ahearne
Chas J. Bacon Jr
Walter Bursch
Robert Cloughen
Tom Collins
James Crowley
C.M. Daniels (seated by pool)
C.M. Daniels (standing on dock)
Jack Eller
Ray C. Ewry
W.C. Fielding
John Flanagan (full length)
John Flanagan (head to waist)
R.E. Frizelle
S.P. Gilles
H.E. Gissing
Andrew Glarner
Budd Goodwin
H.J. Handy
J.L. Hartranft
Johnny Hayes
Harry Haywood Jr.
Harry Hillman
Hans Holmer
Frank C. Irons
Harry Jensen
Thure Johansson
Joseph Jordan (Rollerskater)
W.J. Keating
Abel Kiviat
W.J. Kramer
Walter Lee
Gusta Ljungstrom
Emilo Lunghi
Lou Manley
J.J. McEntee
M.J. McGrath
Fred Meadows
Smythe Northridge
George J. Obermeyer
Thomas O'Callaghan
Paul Pilgrim
Harry Porter
James Rector
Frank Riley
W.C. Robbins
Lawson Robertson
J.A. Ruddy
Harry Sedley Jr.
Percy Sellen
Melvin W. Sheppard (front face)
Melvin W. Sheppard (side face)
Martin Sheridan
C.C. Steinert
James P. Sullivan
E.J. Sweeney
Clarence B. Tippett
C.D. Trubenback
Edward Payson Weston
R.P. Williams
Harold A. Wilson (Walker)

Aviators (4)

Chas. K. Hamilton
Arch Hoxsey
Ralph Johnstone
J.B. Moisant

Bowlers (4)

Alex Dunbar
William Heins
Lee R. Johns (framed portrait)
Glenn Riddell

Golfers (6)

Findley Douglas
F. Herreshoff
Jack Hobens
Geo. Low
Gil Nicholls
Alex Smith

Billiards (15)

Harry Cline
Albert Cutler
Albert Cutler (framed portrait)
John Daly (framed portrait)
Calvin Demarest
Alfredo de Oro
Willie Hoppe
Willie Hoppe (framed portrait)
Thomas Hueston
Jerome Keogh (framed portrait)
Ora Morningstar
Ora Morningstar (framed portrait)
George Sutton
George Sutton (framed portrait)
Cowboy Chas. Weston

Boxers (62)

Abe Attell
Matty Baldwin
Patsy Brannigan
Knock-out Brown
Sailor Burke
Frankie Conley
Young Corbett
Johnny Coulon
Leach Cross
Al Demont
Dave Deshler
Young Donahoe
Jem Driscoll
Charles Eyton (Referee)
Joe Gans
Geo. Gardiner
Jimmy Gardner
Abe Goodman
Jack Goodman
Charley Griffin
Battling Hurley
Dick Hyland
Joe Jeannette
James J. Jeffries
Jim Jeffries
Jack Johnson (front view)
Jack Johnson (side view)
Al Kaufman
Stanley Ketchel
Bert Keyes
Frank Klaus
Patsy Kline
Sam Langford
Harry Lewis
Willie Lewis
Young Loughrey
Packey McFarland
Phil McGovern
Johnny Marto
Honey Mellody
Owen Moran
Tommy Murphy
Frankie Neil
Battling Nelson
Fighting Dick Nelson
Young Nitchie
Phila. Jack O'Brien
Tommy O'Keefe
Tommy O'Toole
Billy Papke
Unk Russell
Jim Stewart
Harry Stone
Jack (Twin) Sullivan
Mike (Twin) Sullivan
Johnny Summers (seated)
Johnny Summers (standing)
Eddie Walsh
Jimmy Walsh
Fred Welsh
Billy West
Ad. Wolgast

    Hope you find this helpful, I have Eric Greenwood to thank for starting me on this set and helping me with much of the above information.  I asked a similar question almost exactly (3) years ago and I am happy to now help with the answer.  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK

"Live long and prosper" - Spock
 *    Mark S. Talbot            
 *    34030 Chatsworth Drive    
 *    Sterling Heights, MI.      48312-4604   *
 *    talbot1@comcast.net       

Brian Dwyer wrote:

 Can anyone tell me the number of cards in this set and whether or not the equivalent of a high series or scarce cards exists?  Also, where can I find a checklist of the cards in this set? Thanks in advance. Brian
================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:26:14 -0400 To: obc ramblings Subject: Today's Soapbox From: Mark S Talbot Hi all, I usually don't post stuff that is not baseball related but I did get a kick out of this "little guy" and thought you might as well. For an amusing message follow the link below: This takes a few minutes to download, but it's worth the wait if you haven't already seen it. REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@comcast.net * ================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:18:21 -0400 To: Bob Donaldson Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1950 Bowman From: Mark S Talbot Hello Bob,

    I measure them 2 1/16" by 2 1/2", but I got some that are smaller ;-) .  Hope that helps you out - BE WELL!!!

REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK

"Live long and prosper" - Spock
 *    Mark S. Talbot            
 *    34030 Chatsworth Drive    
 *    Sterling Heights, MI.      48312-4604   *
 *    talbot1@comcast.net       

Bob Donaldson wrote:

 Could someone give me the approx measurements of the 1950 Bowman BB cards? thanks Bob
================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:45:07 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Riverview Treasure Hunt update From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, I have restocked the dupes list on my Web page, so have a look. Most notable additions include 1970 and '71 Topps, 1974 Topps Traded and the 1974 Washington variations. Have at em, don't be shy. And thanks for the great response so far. ================= To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" Subject: possible virus going around Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:36:23 -0700 From: "Geordie Calvert" Hey all - out of the blue today I got 8 different emails with attachments, two of them from OBC address (Carl Mura and Doc Ball). The subjects are - re: Approved, re: Details, re: Your application and re: re: My Details. All messages say "See the attached file for details. If anyone else got anything like this, obviously don't open the attached file. ================= To: Subject: 60 virii in the mail this morning - sheesh Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:31:12 -0500 From: "D. F. Julien, AIA" There's a virulent new strain of virus going around and I've never seen so many in my inbox. More than one OBCer must be infected with it. Make sure your Inbox shows the size in Kb of each message, and simply delete anything that's 98Kb to 102 Kb in size. Or set a "rule" that deletes anything with the words "attached file for details" in the message body. And virus check your computer with the latest updates! That is all. Take care, -Doug Julien ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 60 virii in the mail this morning - sheesh Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:08:44 -0700 From: "Geordie Calvert" I've gotten around 10 more since my message last night. So far I've gotteninfected mail from Carl Mura, Doc Ball and John Harrell. Doug's idea is agood one - create a mail rule that deletes these things before they ever see the light of day! ----- Original Message ----- From: D. F. Julien, AIA To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:31 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 60 virii in the mail this morning - sheesh There's a virulent new strain of virus going around and I've never seen so many in my inbox. More than one OBCer must be infected with it. Make sure your Inbox shows the size in Kb of each message, and simply delete anything that's 98Kb to 102 Kb in size. Or set a "rule" that deletes anything with the words "attached file for details" in the message body. And virus check your computer with the latest updates! That is all. Take care, -Doug Julien Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:49:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 60 virii in the mail this morning - sheesh From: "David Skoglund" I've been having similar problems. I've been getting returned email notices and when I look at the headers it looks like my account has been sending out viruses. But, after scanning my machine it is not I browsed the ATT (my ISP) help groups and found this note: "On a lot of this type error with the virus there is actually a virus that sent the message from someone's computer that had your email address in the address book. These are normally very hard to locate the source as most all of the header is forged too." So, if you're getting what looks like emails from people that contain a virus, those people may not be the ones actually sending it out. Instead, someone else's computer has a virus and is using a forgery of their email address to send the virus. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Geordie Calvert" wrote: > I've gotten around 10 more since my message last night. So far I've gotten infected mail from Carl Mura, Doc Ball and John Harrell. Doug's idea is a good one - create a mail rule that deletes these things before they ever see the light of day! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: D. F. Julien, AIA > To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:31 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 60 virii in the mail this morning - sheesh > There's a virulent new strain of virus going around and I've never seen so > many in my inbox. More than one OBCer must be infected with it. > Make sure your Inbox shows the size in Kb of each message, and simply delete > anything that's 98Kb to 102 Kb in size. Or set a "rule" that deletes > anything with the words "attached file for details" in the message > And virus check your computer with the latest updates! > That is all. > Take care, > -Doug Julien > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:30:51 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Silence explained From: "mikesportsfan" For those wondering about my recent silence, it was the result of a confluence of factors. First about 2 1/2 weeks ago, I was in an OBC chat when a buddy of mine, IM'd me, telling me to get off teh computer (I use a modem connection) so that he could call me. Earlier that weekend, I had been having intermittent phone problems, with my phone line going down. As soon as I responded to my buddy that I would sign off, the computer crashed, which actually was my phone line going down. Since that day, I have had the phone company out about 5 times trying to get my phones fixed. They had difficulty determining whether the problem was inside or outside. Turns out (supposedly) that there were multiple problems, including a short outside, a mixed line inside and a short inside. It is hoped that the problem(s) are now fixed and I will have phones again. Of course, living in the Detorit area, this was compounded by the world's largest blackout last weekend. The phone guy was supposed to show on Saturday to fix the problem, but forgot in the blackout mess (note: by Friday nite, power was back on in most of the Detroit area, including mine). Since, they needed to get inside the house, it was rescheduled for today. I was supposed to be the first appointment at 8:30. he showed up promptly at 10:15, saying he had a meeting first, and of course had no way of contacting me. Meanwhile, the reason I am home today (Wednesday) is to do the test prep for the rescheduled colonoscopy (read last montghs rambling rant about that) tomorrow. Work of course has continued to be busy and losing all of Friday and Saturday, plus rescheduling my appointments from those days, with my having a short work week, due to the colonoscopy, has not made things any easier. About 2 weeks ago, I was able to get out about 15+ OBC packages. Since then I have not had Internet access at the house (see above), so no lists have been checked. I still have about 100 1962 Topps BB 1st series available from Steve's National gift, for any still looking, send me your lists. These are all commons, no stars are left at all. As part of all this time, many of my notes have gotten mixed up and/or lost. Therefore, anyone who has not seen thanks posted for something they feel they sent me in the last 2 weeks, please LMK. Anyone expecting payback, that they have not received, please also contact me, and I will see if I can check my records and send something out. I do hope to have my lists updated today. Mike Rich ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:11:14 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] possible virus going around To: dodgergeo@elite.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Someone apparently stole my email address too. Looks like they're sending pornography with a virus. I only found out because some of the mail came back undeliverable. I changed my password. Hopefully that will stop it, but if you have unopened email from traderdoug I suggest you delete it. - Doug ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:44:58 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] possible virus going around To: TraderDoug@aol.com, dodgergeo@elite.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Hey all, Doug Smith Hit the nail right on the head, I believe the same thing has happened to me i found like 10 undeliverable mails so if you guys see anything thats from me, NOT OBC related please DELETE it Im sorry for this mishap ROB GIOIA ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1953 Topps Help Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:31:16 -0700 From: scarter@multek.com Anyone that can help me finish off this bear, please let me know what you have and what you would want for it. Five HOFers and four high numbered SPs 1953 Topps 78 Al Schoendienst HOF 82 Mickey Mantle HOF 104 Yogi Berra HOF 114 Phil Rizzuto HOF 147 Warren Spahn HOF 222 Vic Janowicz SP 233 Al Aber SP 258 Jim Gilliam RC SP 272 Bill Antonelli SP Steve Carter ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:16:18 -0400 (EDT) To: david.skoglund@att.net (David Skoglund) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 60 virii in the mail this morning - sheesh From: Originaleek@webtv.net I have received several "Returned Mail" notices for mail that was supposedly sent by me to OBCers. I did not send them, so a virus must be sending them from another site using my return address. I know the virus is not in my unit as I do not use a computer but rather have WebTV. Not having to worry about viruses is just one of the reasons I don't use the computer for OBC type stuff. Another and more significant reason is my wife uses the computer for her business & I seldom get access. We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:46:43 EDT Subject: 1960 back variation To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com i seemed to have misplaced my variation list. could someone let me know what numbers from the 1960 set have both grey and cream backs? tnx, gm ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:42:08 EDT Subject: Annual GBSCC show: Wilmington, MA To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jrhatchjr@aol.com Even though it's still a couple of months away, it's never too early to mark the calendar. This years event will be October 31 - November 2. Hours, autograph guests and other information can be found at the Greater Boston Sports Collectors Club website... http://www.gbscc.com/ For us up here in New England it is by far and away the best card show in the area. I'll be sure to send out another note in mid-October. Can you tell I haven't been to a show in months?? Happy Collecting! ================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:01:20 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Wantlist] 1960 back variation To: Smartalecx@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: typecard@aol.com 1960 Topps (thanks to Dan Austin and Dave Hornish)
1-110 CREAM BACKS
111-198 GRAY BACKS
199-286 CREAM BACKS
287-374 GRAY BACKS
375-440 WHITE or GRAY or CREAM BACKS
441-506 GRAY BACKS
507-572 GRAY BACKS ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 01:11:44 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Virus From: digdugdig@webtv.net As EEK has already stated, we few webtv'ers are not discriminated from this thing as I have also had a handfull of returned e-mails today. An OBC "wannabe" that, obviously, ain't "gonna be"!! Whom ever is responsible..."Get a life"!! My 2 cents...Doug ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:47:26 EDT Subject: RE:VIRUS To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: LUURSCJG@aol.com I am getting them too 9 in one day , what bother me beside they all being from obcers i am not getting attachments so does that mean by opening mail to see what didnt get through am i spreading virus......... ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:56:51 -0500 To: _ramblings Subject: CoolPix 8/21 From: Rick & Deb Fellow Baseball Enthusiasts (OBC Brethren)... Baseball is cool. Baseball pictures are cool. Action photos..player portraits..paintings..drawings....they're cool. Below is a link to a cool baseball picture. Let the picture load (you may have to hit reload) and if you think it's cool...enjoy it...see if you know who it is..."relate" to it. Let it remind you of just how cool baseball really is. If you like, save it to a disc..or your own "Cool Baseball Pictures" folder. (..you'll have to name it yourself) I'll share a different cool baseball picture (.jpg) with ramblings subscribers on a semi-regular basis. (I promise they won't ALL be Phillies) LAST CoolPix: Larry "Guru" Tipton THE LINK --> http://home.onemain.com/~debrick/images/111cool.jpg You don't have to if you don't want to....but you can. Thanx...Rick Svetecz...Baseball Fan/American ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:44:23 EDT Subject: McDonalds To: vct@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com Anybody collecting McDonald's Yankees cards? ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: When is a finished set not finished? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew When it's an OBC set, of course! First, a big THANKS to JSG, who sends the last card for my 1955 Bowman set, #265 Barlick. Every slot filled! All done, right? Well... The 1955 Bowmans had those front/back errors, where you'd get the Johnsons and the Bollings mixed up. I've got all but one of the correct backs, the sole missing compadre being #204b, Frank Bolling with the correct back. It doesn't feel quite right having Frank missing from a Frank Bolling card--we all want to be invited to our own parties! Thus, while the set is complete, I'd like to get that card. For anyone who can send 204b, I'll be happy to send 204a and throw in a 101a (Ernie Johnson front) for your trouble. Any luck on this Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] When is a finished set not finished? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew It's the usual fast and friendly OBC service, as Steve Rittenberg finds 204b lickety-split. TIA Steve! - Spike --- Steve Rittenberg wrote: > From: "Steve Rittenberg" > I have an extra Frank. I'll send it out as soon as I can. > Steve Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: What are they thinking? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew So it's apparent that eBay doesn't have Amazon-quality search matching. Check the bottom of your "my eBay" page, you get the "other things you might like" list. According to them, I like two things. They think I like them A LOT. 1) Philadelphia Phillies 2) 1967 football stuff I've searched for a lot of things in my time. Many cards, a few bats, and even a pair of game-used pants. Never have I searched for Philadelphia, Phillies, or football and only rarely 1967. Um, what? Did someone break into my account just to perform bizarre searches in the middle of the night? Is this a feature that mystifies others as much as myself? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:11:19 EDT Subject: Hi From Kansas city To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Went to the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum tonight. Outstanding. If you're ever in Kansas City you gotta stop. - Doug ================= To: Subject: new email Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 21:52:27 -0700 From: "Greg \(yaz\)" I have a new email address. yazobc@insightbb.com This address is solely dedicated to OBC mail, (by far the largest amount I get), I've changed it withthe Yahoo groups so if the fine folks that take care of our pages and stuff will change it for me, I'll be all set. I'll be using a different one with ebay and paypal and such in case you run across it. It will be simular tomy old one, yazmon@insightbb.com Greg (yaz) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:58:07 -0700 Subject: Fw: 1974 TOPPS #226B From: Peter Iversen I got this message through INFO@OLDBASEBALL.COM Can anyone help this person...??? ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "james rizzo" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 10:11:27 -0400 Subject: 1974 TOPPS #226B I would like to acquire the 1974 topps baseball card #226b - can you please advise, my email is riz5518@yahoo.com - my name is Jim. THANK ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:15:37 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 2 cents From: digdugdig@webtv.net Hi all, First off...and hats off to Ken Morganti for the "auction"....the "item description" area could not have been written better. I thought I had a "feel" for what OBC is all about but I guess...well...this is very heartwarming...a SUPER JOB Ken and to all that have contributed!! Now I've forgotten what the second part of this "Ramblings" was!! Must have been pretty trivial compared to the "main topic"!! The auction, in itself, is a classic example of why I want to be among you all!! OBC....IT IS...'Nuff said!!! ================= To: Subject: Email Change Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 09:48:40 -0500 From: "Randy G. Griffin" Hello All: Effective later on today, I will have a new email address: Take Care, ================= To: Subject: Ebay List? Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 10:46:58 -0500 From: "meyergray" My friends, Has someone in the fine organization compiled a list that contains everyone's ebay user ids? I realize that the Address list has them on there, but Iam wanting to create a single page reference list that has everyone's ebaydata clearly listed. If someone has already done that and is willing to send it my way, that would be great. Thanks for your time. John Scott Gray ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:17:55 EDT Subject: Re: 2 cents To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com In a message dated Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:15:37, digdugdig@webtv.net writes: << Hi all, First off...and hats off to Ken Morganti for the "auction"....the "item description" area could not have been written better. I thought I had a "feel" for what OBC is all about but I guess...well...this is very heartwarming...a SUPER JOB Ken and to all that have contributed!! Now I've forgotten what the second part of this "Ramblings" was!! Must have been pretty trivial compared to the "main topic"!! The auction, in itself, is a classic example of why I want to be among you all!! OBC....IT IS...'Nuff said!!! Doug >> Hey gang, Actually, I should admit to plagerizing the whole paragraph. (Please don't expell me.) I ripped it off from Bob Donaldson's earlier auction of his Red Sox/Yankees tix a month or so ago. I was really looking for the link to Rick's website in "Ramblings" and/or something about the fund that was set up and came across it in one of his messages (or from the actual eBay auction listing). I liked the wording and didn't feel I could/should try to improve on the message, so I went with it. Just wanted to give credit where credit is due. I got a few late submissions from both Jim Wiehe and Sean McGowan today. Most of Sean's stuff will be added as bonus material to currently posted lots and the unsuspecting bidders will just have to accept them (HINT: most of the lots from 1968-1975 that I posted this AM were improved). The item from Jim Wiehe is a Joe Morgan bobblehead that may take a while to be posted, since I need a digital camera if I want to put an image up with it. I may just decide to list it p hotoless, since the winner will probably just have me mail it to Terry Woods anyway Update: The first lots ended this morning... more are ending as I type this message. Current totals from all the auctions show 130 lots listed and almost $3500 raised so far. I think that's where the REAL effort lies. Thanks to all of you reading this for your hard work and sniping each other I've gotten feedback already from the dutch auction. Geez, at least give me a chance to OFFER your auction winnings. Reminds me a little of when I first joined eBay and you didn't need a completed transaction to leave positive feedback. BTW, if you have multiple auction wins, please remind me so I can consolidate your packages and won't charge you multiple shipping charges by accident. It's my first time selling more than one lot at a time (and probably a couple years since I sold my last lot), so you'll have to bear with this eBay rookie. That's all for now. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:42:08 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: I have been "SPOOFED" - don't open any emails from ehpiii@aol.com From: ehpiii@aol.com Sorry folks, I updated my anti-virus software but yet still was "SPOOFED" - which results in random emails sent out, probably to anyone with an email in my in-box. If you have any email from this account over the past 3 days or in the next 3 days, please delete it & check your computer regardless of whether you got any email from me. ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2 cents Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:59:52 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Thanks Ken, I thought something seemed familure! Two things for everyone else. 1. SNIPE!!!! 2. anyone working on the 41 PB set LMK as I just won a great lot of cards I don't need! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2 cents > In a message dated Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:15:37, digdugdig@webtv.net writes: > << Hi all, > First off...and hats off to Ken Morganti for the "auction"....the "item > description" area could not have been written better. I thought I had a "feel" for > what OBC is all about but I guess...well...this is very heartwarming...a > JOB Ken and to all that have contributed!! Now I've forgotten what the > part of this "Ramblings" was!! Must have been pretty trivial compared to > "main topic"!! The auction, in itself, is a classic example of why I want > be among you all!! > OBC....IT IS...'Nuff said!!! > Doug >> > Hey gang, > Actually, I should admit to plagerizing the whole paragraph. (Please > expell me.) I ripped it off from Bob Donaldson's earlier auction of his > Sox/Yankees tix a month or so ago. I was really looking for the link to > website in "Ramblings" and/or something about the fund that was set up and > across it in one of his messages (or from the actual eBay auction listing). I > liked the wording and didn't feel I could/should try to improve on the > message, so I went with it. Just wanted to give credit where credit is due. I got a > few late submissions from both Jim Wiehe and Sean McGowan today. Most of > Sean's stuff will be added as bonus material to currently posted lots and > unsuspecting bidders will just have to accept them (HINT: most of the lots > 1968-1975 that I posted this AM were improved). The item from Jim Wiehe is a Joe > Morgan bobblehead that may take a while to be posted, since I need a > camera if I want to put an image up with it. I may just decide to list it > hotoless, since the winner will probably just have me mail it to Terry > anyway > Update: The first lots ended this morning... more are ending as I type > message. Current totals from all the auctions show 130 lots listed and > $3500 raised so far. I think that's where the REAL effort lies. Thanks to > of you reading this for your hard work and sniping each other I've > feedback already from the dutch auction. Geez, at least give me a chance > OFFER your auction winnings. Reminds me a little of when I first joined > and you didn't need a completed transaction to leave positive feedback. BTW, if > you have multiple auction wins, please remind me so I can consolidate your > packages and won't charge you multiple shipping charges by accident. It's > first time selling more than one lot at a time (and probably a couple years since > I sold my last lot), so you'll have to bear with this eBay rookie. That's > for now. TAYL, > Ken M > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:02:01 -0400 To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: eBay/PayPal HOAX From: Dan Austin Another eBay / PayPal account stealer message seems to be working its way around. If you get a message like the one below, DO NOT click on the link and DO NOT type in your userid and password! I got one today from both "eBay" and "PayPal". - Dan >Delivered-To: squeezle@smeagol.dreamhost.com >Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:27:07 +0200 >To: paypal@iamdanaustin.com >Subject: FPO Notice: Important information about PayPal accounts >From: "PayPal Customer Support" >Dear PayPal Customer, >This is an important message you have to read immediately after you get >it. In the past 3 months, hackers tried to steal our users accounts with >trivial procedures. We worked with the FBI to ensure that those evil >persons were caught. Unfortunately, some of the information in our system >was compromised. Because of that, all users must log in and check if >nothing in their accounts was modified. With this occasion we will log all >ip addresses when users log in to PayPal and store them in a database. >When an unknown ip address is trying to login into your account, we will >know that it's not you, and start the legal procedures. >Please click this link to login to PayPal. Please note that after you >click this link, only the user and password and IP address will be logged, >and you will be redirected to the main PayPal page. If you want to use the >services at PayPal you have to login again from the home page. >Copyright(C) 2003 PayPal Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks >and brands are the property of their respective owners. PayPal and the >PayPal logo are trademarks of PayPal Inc. ================= To: , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay/PayPal HOAX Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:14:59 +0100 From: "Glenn Codere" Furthermore, any messages you receive along these lines should be forwarded to Paypal or Ebay to allow them to try to trace the senders via the message Check the websites for the appropriate addresses. Glasgow, Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Dan Austin [mailto:dan@iamdanaustin.com] Sent: 22 August 2003 20:02 To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com; obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] eBay/PayPal HOAX Another eBay / PayPal account stealer message seems to be working its way around. If you get a message like the one below, DO NOT click on the link and DO NOT type in your userid and password! I got one today from both "eBay" and "PayPal". - Dan Delivered-To: squeezle@smeagol.dreamhost.com Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:27:07 +0200 To: paypal@iamdanaustin.com Subject: FPO Notice: Important information about PayPal accounts From: "PayPal Customer Support" Dear PayPal Customer, This is an important message you have to read immediately after you get it. In the past 3 months, hackers tried to steal our users accounts with trivial procedures. We worked with the FBI to ensure that those evil persons were caught. Unfortunately, some of the information in our system was compromised. Because of that, all users must log in and check if nothing in their accounts was modified. With this occasion we will log all ip addresses when users log in to PayPal and store them in a database. When an unknown ip address is trying to login into your account, we will know that it's not you, and start the legal procedures. Please click this link to login to PayPal. Please note that after you click this link, only the user and password and IP address will be logged, and you will be redirected to the main PayPal page. If you want to use the services at PayPal you have to login again from the home page. Copyright(C) 2003 PayPal Inc. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners. PayPal and the PayPal logo are trademarks of PayPal Inc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor click here . ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:24:23 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay List? To: meyergray@msn.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com If you want to start one... I use chicolini1@aol.com... ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:34:58 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 2 cents To: CardClctor@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com I have to say also that you have done one helluva job with this. I see the listings and didn't realize what an undertaking this would be. My OBC hats are off to you! In my 10+ years here, it never ceases to amaze me what this group can accomplish. And to think, we started all this with Stan Hack and sending two baseballs around the country (and that was cool in itself!). You guys really know how to keep the OBC spirit alive and well. And the generosity of some of our members has been nothing short of awesome. I am and will always be proud of what OBC stands for. You new guys can really get a feel of what us 'oldtimers' have known for years. It's not just about the cards, it's always been about the people. We should have an OBC hall of fame and vote for 1 or 2 people every year. Ken you get my vote as a first-timer on the ballot (despite that wizard hat LOL). I guess I would be on the oldtimers committee with Rick, Guru, Al, and a few others. Excellent job! ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] What are they thinking? To: Matthew , From: Chris Stufflestreet It's the same technology that allows you to call a large company's customer service line and be greeted by a fully-automated voice recognition system. At one of my jobs today, I was checking out some cables while the gentleman (a retired engineer) was trying to get some information for his brand new Sony HDTV. He had his speakerphone on, and I was treated to both ends of the conversation. First, he was asked to spell out his last name. Since it was Zalinske, he had some trouble (which I understand...my own last name catches some off guard). But the funny thing was that the voice on the other end repeated some spellings that weren't even close. Finally, Mr. Zalinske was asked to give his street address. Thinking that nothing could go wrong with "Harbor North Court," he quickly became agitated when that didn't work either. Right about the time I had to go back outside, he was throwing his shoe at the phone and yelling, "WILL YOU SUMBITCHES JUST PUT ME ON THE #$%^&@ PHONE WITH A HUMAN @$&^%$# BEING??!!!!" I had to step outside to keep from laughing at the poor guy. But, that's what happens when a bean counter thinks that a machine will do a better job than another person can...and that's what happens when eBay lets a computer think it can tell what you're likely to search out. I guess that's why I get emails for breats enhancement and my wife gets the Viagra spam (though I will concede that Viagra is just as much for her, but I digress...). Take care, --- Matthew wrote: > So it's apparent that eBay doesn't have > Amazon-quality search matching. Check the bottom of > your > "my eBay" page, you get the "other things you might > like" list. According to them, I like two > things. They think I like them A LOT. > 1) Philadelphia Phillies > 2) 1967 football stuff > I've searched for a lot of things in my time. Many > cards, a few bats, and even a pair of game-used > pants. Never have I searched for Philadelphia, > Phillies, or football and only rarely 1967. Um, > what? Did someone break into my account just to > perform bizarre searches in the middle of the > night? Is this a feature that mystifies others as > much as myself? > Spike > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: "meyergray" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay List? Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:12:10 -0700 From: "Erik & Leticia Greenwood" Here is the list your requested. Member Ebay ID George Altemose tballgame Mark Atnip T206Guy Dan Austin iamdanaustin.com John Ball III UNKNOWN Bob Bannon biggies Andy Baran yankee-hater Jim Beauchemin jimbo777777@yahoo.com Paul Biggs UNKNOWN Geordie Calvert dodgergeo Steve Carter scarter@multek.com Joe Cerullo obcjoe Doug Chamberlain digdugdig Yuk Chow yukchow Dan Cipra UNKNOWN Glenn Codere Saltire Jerry Coker cokerobc John Collins topps56 Greg Conway yazmon Andy Cook typecard James Cooper coop951 Bob Corvello Friar4 Al Crotte UNKNOWN Al Cummings Alcattle Dick Cummings DCCBL Bob D’Angelo tampabob Doug DeJong xddx@aol.com Wayne Delia pb1940 Jeff Delott JDelott@aol.com Mike Diamanti UNKNOWN Terry Dietrick OBC-Dieken Sal Domino chicolini1@aol.com Brett Domue metsbwd@aol.com Bob Donaldson obcbobd Joe Duffy UNKNOWN Brian Dwyer OBC-spacktrack Rick Ellison Tply Dave Fallen dlfallen Bob Farrell toppscards Ben Fisher twistedude Linda Fitak jazzgirl1920s@aol.com Rob Fitts UNKNOWN Ken Goetsch kshoes1 Larry Gersbach Larrygersh Robert Gioia II CELENOX Joel Glickman globextrader Matthew Glidden obc-spike Kent Goto KWGoto1 John Scott Gray dr.jsgtheyounger Erik Greenwood greenwood3 Randy Griffin hoosier44 Mike Hair Topgolf Richard Hankins rbhankins John Harrell mazhof Jim Hatch jrhatchjr Brock Hattox ecru George Hay golfinggeo Matthew Heilenman mattscards78_obc Steve Hitzeman UNKNOWN David Hornish dsh46 Tom Housley directorth@aol.com Joe Isaac UNKNOWN Peter Iverson obcpeter Doug Julien UNKNOWN Rick Keating UNKNOWN Earl Kilbourn UNKNOWN Richard Kimball kimballrw Mike Kinney kinney57 Todd Knowles mtredsoxfan David Kolenda UNKNOWN John Leroux UNKNOWN Joshua Levine wite3 Dennis Linden DJL03 Brian Lindholme familytoad@harborside.com Ray Luurs obcray Mark MacRae mma3026559@aol.com Bill Malson Swampy3 Gary Mandell topcat657 Kevin Martens UNKNOWN Sean McGowan spmcgowan John McLaughlin obcjohnnymac Peter Mead hoot-owl Don Metz UNKNOWN Greg Miller UNKNOWN Lynn Miller bubble-head James Moleta jmoleta Kent Montgomery monty10001 George Moore gmtigr Howard Morgan trademup Ken Morganti ken_m Carl Mura UNKNOWN Bob Neill rdn56 Tim Newcomb timn1 Kit Okamuro hapjap Chuck Paris KLSDAD Gary Pearce UNKNOWN Ron Perry obcron Robert Pigeon COMMONCARD Ed Pike ehpiii John Pugsley johnpugsley David Purdham obcdpurd Grant Rainsley grainsley Roger Raum rraum@apl-park.k12.ia.us Rick Redpath tiptonmint Bob Reed obc-boreed Mike Rich Mikesportsfan Steve Rittenberg srittenberg Richard Robinson rrobinson1946 Jeff Sackmann psa1 Sam Saletta dbagurusamiam Bob Saxton UNKNOWN Bob Schaub rschaubjr@aol.com Sassy Schoenrock sbrock42 Ed Schott eddiescardsdebbie Matt Shirley Hawker83 Jim Silva jfsilva Jeff Sinclair stepsitter David Skoglund daves-obc Doug Smith traderdoug Rex Stahlman Enduroking John Storman UNKNOWN Chris Stufflestreet vintagecardschris Keith Summers KeithSummers@webtv.net Rick Svetecz debrick@onemain.com Pat Sweeney ibcardmaster Joe Sweet Joesweet1 Mark Talbot talbot1@comcast.net Neal Thomas nthomas Larry Tipton obc-guru George Vrechek vrechek Geno Wagner illini90 Art Wainwright UNKNOWN Bob Wells wells@interlink-cafe.com Marshall West marswest52 Jim Wiehe JWsCards Mike Wierzbicki mikew2 Tom Williams tnbw Kevin Wolf UNKNOWN Terry Woods txpoobah Mac Wubben obcmac Mark Zentkovich UNKNOWN Larry Zurawski UNKNOWN Inactive List Carlos Alcazar obc-carterfan Lorin Anderson Keewatin Brad Chambers UNKNOWN Brad Fox UNKNOWN Ignacio Gonzalez UNKNOWN John Hathcock UNKNOWN Greg Kuhn UNKNOWN David Nathan UNKNOWN Jimmy Parker Catfish.obc -----Original Message----- From: meyergray [mailto:meyergray@msn.com] Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 8:47 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay List? My friends, Has someone in the fine organization compiled a list that contains everyone's ebay user ids? I realize that the Address list has them on there, but I am wanting to create a single page reference list that has everyone's ebay data clearly listed. If someone has already done that and is willing to send it my way, that would be great. Thanks for your time. John Scott Gray Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [VCT] eBay/PayPal HOAX To: Dan Austin , vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, From: Chris Stufflestreet Look below for my comments: --- Dan Austin wrote: > Another eBay / PayPal account stealer message seems > to be working its way > around. If you get a message like the one below, DO > NOT click on the link > and DO NOT type in your userid and password! I got > one today from both > "eBay" and "PayPal". > - Dan > >Delivered-To: squeezle@smeagol.dreamhost.com > >Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:27:07 +0200 > >To: paypal@iamdanaustin.com > >Subject: FPO Notice: Important information about > PayPal accounts > >From: "PayPal Customer Support" > > > > >Dear PayPal Customer, > > > >This is an important message you have to read > immediately after you get > >it. In the past 3 months, hackers tried to steal > our users accounts with > >trivial procedures. We worked with the FBI to > ensure that those evil > >persons were caught. eBay has a legion of corporate lawyers that would never allow the use of the word "evil" in any form of communication to its users. Besides...up to this point in the letter, it looks like something I would have written as a high school junior. Unfortunately, some of the > information in our system > >was compromised. Because of that, all users must > log in and check if > >nothing in their accounts was modified. With this > occasion we will log all > >ip addresses when users log in to PayPal and store > them in a database. > >When an unknown ip address is trying to login into > your account, we will > >know that it's not you, and start the legal > procedures. Certainly. Whoever wrote this either didn't realize or ignored that some internet users have IP addresses that change from time to time (AOL users, for instance). But I'm not surprised a lot of people have fallen for the scam; after all, how many people actually believed that Microsoft was going to give them hundreds of dollars for forwarding that email? > >Please click this link to login to PayPal. Please > note that after you > >click this link, only the user and password and IP > address will be logged, > >and you will be redirected to the main PayPal page. Let me get this straight...If I just click on the "convenient" link, all I have to do is enter my user name and passwork and everything will just fix itself? Yeah, and if you believed that, I just might have the title to a bridge near Brooklyn, and I can sell it to you for a great price. > If you want to use the > >services at PayPal you have to login again from the > home page. > > > > > > > >Copyright(C) 2003 PayPal Inc. All Rights Reserved. > Designated trademarks > >and brands are the property of their respective > owners. PayPal and the > >PayPal logo are trademarks of PayPal Inc. By the way, I seem to have found a way around it. My email address given to eBay changed, and I never got around to telling them. Whenever I win an auction, I'll just email the seller from this account and ask for the invoice. I get what I want, and never see any of those bogus "customer service" emails. It's not a science, but it works out nicely. Take care, I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:46:48 EDT Subject: harddrive clean To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ehpiii@aol.com My hard-drive is clean using the latest McAfee update, so any emails that I send out should be ok - but I don't send out attachments unless I tell you that it is a picture of my daughter Sarah, so don't open any attachments purportedly sent out by me and continue to be suspecious of any email with my return address that doesn't look like it is from me. Hopefully this virus will die out ================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:23:03 EDT Subject: Fwd: baseball cards To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 04:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: zack grakal Subject: baseball cards To: JDelott@aol.com hey, hows it going? was wondering if you were still buying vintage cards to fill in your sets? i have a ton of cards, commans and stars, from the 50's -70's.i saw your list in your card group. let me know. thanks Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ================= To: "OBC" Subject: OBC ebay auction Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:49:33 -0400 From: "larry.tipton" I noticed several lots donated by Ron Barrett. The latest OBC Directory does not show Ron as a member, so I assume Ron is a dealer. Ron Barrett is notlisted as an OBC Certified dealer on our website. Does Ron Barrett have a website or email where we can thank him? I think he should be nominated forOBC Certified dealer. ================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:26:25 EDT Subject: Travels To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Well, Atlantic City in July, Glasgow in August. OBC is everywhere. I am taking advantage of a business trip to the area to spend part of next Thursday with Glenn Codere. He informs me he will be wearing appropriate headgear.....that could mean a few things in Scotland though :-). When I get back, I am going to give some thought to a Long Island OBC get together. There are 5 or 6 of us at least in the area, counting NYC. I may be able to host it here on a Sunday, but await the fall Little League schedule and annual division of Giants tickets with my brother in law before I can think of a date. Gotta start sending out some cards again too--which means I need dupes. If anybody hears of a late 50's/early 60's commons monster hoard and wants a partner, lmk I may be interested in splitting or something. take care guys, ================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:15:23 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ron Barrett From: Dan Austin I second that motion! Ron has given quite bit of nice stuff for this auction. At 10:49 AM 8/23/03, you wrote: >I noticed several lots donated by Ron Barrett. The latest OBC Directory >does not show Ron as a member, so I assume Ron is a dealer. Ron Barrett is >not listed as an OBC Certified dealer on our website. Does Ron Barrett >have a website or email where we can thank him? I think he should be >nominated for OBC Certified dealer. ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: baseball cards Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:01:24 -0500 From: "meyergray" I got the exact same email yesterday. It sounds like he may be trying to hit several people at once..... Caution may be advised..... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:23 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Fwd: baseball cards > Has anyone dealt with this guy? > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:31:12 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC ebay auction To: larry.tipton@netzero.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: typecard@aol.com In a message dated 8/23/2003 10:51:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, larry.tipton@netzero.net writes: > I noticed several lots donated by Ron Barrett. The latest OBC Directory > does not show Ron as a member, so I assume Ron is a dealer. Ron Barrett is not > listed as an OBC Certified dealer on our website. Does Ron Barrett have a > website or email where we can thank him? I think he should be nominated for OBC > Certified dealer. > Guru Ron, is a local dealer in northern Virginia who also sets up at Ft Washington. I've known him about 10 years and he is a fantastic dealer and person! He is retired and deals cards for fun. He doesn't do any mail order, he just does shows mostly for the social aspect of hanging out with other cardaholics. ================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:06:18 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Riverview Treasure Hunt, Part 3 From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, The dupes list has been restocked yet again, with emphasis on the 1973 and 1974 sets. If you need something, let me know. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mystery shipping on Ebay Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:16:59 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- Here's a question I'll put up to the group about Ebay shipping. I just won a lot of three 1951 Bowman beaters for $3. The auction didn't say how much shipping was, so I guessed in the $1-$3 range. After the auction ended, I went to Paypal and the seller entered $8.86 for shipping! I sent him an email saying this can't possibly be right, but have yet to get a response. Let's assume for a minute that it is right -- do I have the right to say "No thanks" due to outrageous shipping? He'll obviously leave negative feedback, but I could care less since I have 500 good ones. How do you guys feel about that kind of situation? It's almost like he's concealing an important aspect of the auction if he is going to charge that much... Take Care, Geno Geno and Sharon Wagner ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:23:39 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay To: illini90@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com With a puffy and insurance it should cost you no more than 3 bucks...unfortunately, some of these guys use shipping as a profit tool and to offset the 60 cents Ebay is going to charge him...I would turn it down and take my chances with the feedback. If he is a good Ebayer, he obviously made a mistake and will correct it. If he's "one of those", tell him to keep his cards. There are some good buys to be had under this one guy Ken M. He seems like a real good seller :)! ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay To: illini90@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet My pet peeve about eBay shippers is the occasional seller who won't combine shipping. I once won 3 '56 Topps cards with my old eBay username, and they came to about 10 cents each (they started at $.01, and nobody bid on them). They were all from the same seller, so I sent an email asking what the adjusted shipping would be. The guy wrote back, "I don't combine shipping. Those '56 cards are worth a great deal more than you are paying for them, and I don't see what your problem is. My shipping is $1.50 per card and your total is $X." So I sent payment and was really amused when my $4.50 shipping charge turned out to pay for three cards stuffed into a semi-rigid holder and placed into a small envelope with a small note that told me to be certain to leave my feedback. 34 cents postage, no insurance. I quickly fired off an email to the clown telling him that his $1.50 shipping charge was well worth what he used for shipping the cards to me, and that he wasn't going to like the "feedback" I was inclined to give eBay. I finished up the email saying, "if you're going to charge me three times for shipping and use an envelope, you'd damn well better send me three envelopes." He sent me an email telling me that I was entitled to my opinion and that I was welcome to file that opinion in an impossible-to-retrieve location as far as he was concerned. He once again stated that I paid less than any one of the cards was worth (though I maintained that per eBay rules, the card is worth whatever the high bidder is left with; if he wanted to sell them for a price that's more in line with what Dr. Beckett says, he should have sold them elsewhere). I left neutral feedback and expressed my lack of satisfaction with his shipping policy. Even today, I rarely bid on any card if the seller doesn't state his shipping cost and policy. If I really like the lots, I'll send an email to the seller to clarify before I bid. I like eBay, buy there really is no place in it for sellers to screw their customers with inflated shipping charges to make up for costs. Want to make up for eBay fees? Start the bidding at a dollar. Sorry for the rant. Take care, --- Geno Wagner wrote: > OBCers -- > Here's a question I'll put up to the group about > Ebay shipping. I just won > a lot of three 1951 Bowman beaters for $3. The > auction didn't say how much > shipping was, so I guessed in the $1-$3 range. > After the auction ended, I > went to Paypal and the seller entered $8.86 for > shipping! I sent him an > email saying this can't possibly be right, but have > yet to get a response. > Let's assume for a minute that it is right -- do I > have the right to say > "No thanks" due to outrageous shipping? He'll > obviously leave negative > feedback, but I could care less since I have 500 > good ones. How do you > guys feel about that kind of situation? It's almost > like he's concealing > an important aspect of the auction if he is going to > charge that much... > Take Care, Geno > Geno and Sharon Wagner > illini90@earthlink.net I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:46:49 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" I do the same as Chris. If it doesn't specify shipping costs, I will not bid. If I really want to bid, I will bid really low and/or eamil the seller and ask. I can't wait to hear the end of the $8.86 charge! Good luck Geno! Maybe if he gives Geno neg feedback, we could all buy somthing and then refuse it on the high shipping costs and give him neg feedback :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geno Wagner" To: Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:16 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay > OBCers -- > Here's a question I'll put up to the group about Ebay shipping. I just > a lot of three 1951 Bowman beaters for $3. The auction didn't say how > shipping was, so I guessed in the $1-$3 range. After the auction ended, I > went to Paypal and the seller entered $8.86 for shipping! I sent him an > email saying this can't possibly be right, but have yet to get a response. > Let's assume for a minute that it is right -- do I have the right to say > "No thanks" due to outrageous shipping? He'll obviously leave negative > feedback, but I could care less since I have 500 good ones. How do you > guys feel about that kind of situation? It's almost like he's concealing > an important aspect of the auction if he is going to charge that much... > Take Care, Geno > Geno and Sharon Wagner > illini90@earthlink.net > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay To: illini90@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Bob Farrell Ole Abe said its better to break your word then keep a bad promise. And I say especially so in business. The seller's charges are unreasonable and essentially change the deal you agreed to when you bid. If he won't be reasonable don't comlete the transaction and report his tactics to ebay. I'm sure ebay frowns on trying to realize the items value through shipping just my two cents. --- Geno Wagner wrote: > OBCers -- > Here's a question I'll put up to the group about > Ebay shipping. I just won > a lot of three 1951 Bowman beaters for $3. The > auction didn't say how much > shipping was, so I guessed in the $1-$3 range. > After the auction ended, I > went to Paypal and the seller entered $8.86 for > shipping! I sent him an > email saying this can't possibly be right, but have > yet to get a response. > Let's assume for a minute that it is right -- do I > have the right to say > "No thanks" due to outrageous shipping? He'll > obviously leave negative > feedback, but I could care less since I have 500 > good ones. How do you > guys feel about that kind of situation? It's almost > like he's concealing > an important aspect of the auction if he is going to > charge that much... > Take Care, Geno > Geno and Sharon Wagner > illini90@earthlink.net Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:45:50 EDT Subject: Cards Needing a home!! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: trufan999@aol.com Hey folks Time to start clearing out this mess of a dupes box and refilling it so I am listing a very long list of cards that someone may need FCFS all cards are ranging from Tipton to Ex. Give me a shout 1958: 102,170,208 1960: 40.75.139.243.423.500 1961: 18 1962: 15 1964: 102 1965: 27.66 1967: 83.115.275.415.416.417 1968: 38.39.62.63.71.79.185.199.208.222.234.237.239.249.261.266.269.493 1969: 17.18.19.44.47.53.58.61.74.139.329.348.378.389.414.446.471.474.481.528 John Leroux ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:31:47 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay To: illini90@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com If he doesn;t back down on his shipping, rather than Geno getting negative feedback (although I suppose he will if he backs out), I think all of us should individually email the jerk and let him know we're not interested in ever doing business with him - Doug ================= To: "TraderDoug@aol.com" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:34:24 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" Thanks for all the replys - I still haven't heard from him, but I'll keep you posted... ----- Original Message ----- To: illini90@earthlink.net;OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: 8/24/2003 1:31:47 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay If he doesn;t back down on his shipping, rather than Geno getting negative feedback (although I suppose he will if he backs out), I think all of us should individually email the jerk and let him know we're not interested in ever doing business with him - Doug ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:21:36 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 842 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com In a message dated 8/24/03 8:48:25 AM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: << My pet peeve about eBay shippers is the occasional seller who won't combine shipping. I once won 3 '56 Topps cards with my old eBay username, and they came to about 10 cents each (they started at $.01, and nobody bid on them). They were all from the same seller, so I sent an email asking what the adjusted shipping would be. The guy wrote back, "I don't combine shipping. Those '56 cards are worth a great deal more than you are paying for them, and I don't see what your problem is. My shipping is $1.50 per card and your total is $X." >> I could write a book on this topic... I had a classic story like this a couple years ago. I was bidding on small lots (30 or 40 cards) of 1960's commons and won a couple for about 10 cents/card. Shipping on each lot was $2, but I bid on a few other lots from the same seller assuming he would combine the shipping. I ended up winning 15 lots and the seller did combine shipping: $25 (and this was AFTER a $15 discount for winning 15 lots). All the cards could've been mailed in an 800 ct. box with plenty of room to spare. I e-mailed him back and forth over the next week trying to understand why it cost him more than three times what it would cost anyone else using the USPS. I got all kinds of stories about how it cost money to properly pack them in sleeves, tape, bubble wrap, etc (these were low grade cards mind you - who cares if a VG card comes in a toploader?) and then he said each lot had to be handled separately... so I mailed him 15 individual checks (in one envelope. I wasn't going to waste any more money on postage than I already was.) Each check was made out for between 3 and 6 bucks according to the original fifteen invoices he sent me (yes, I got 15 as if he didn't notice that they were all going to the same person). After getting my payment, I was told I was acting childish. LOL. When the cards finally arrived, they were in about 4 different boxes all thrown together after looking like they had been pulled out of a sandbox prior to mailing. Total cost of the shipping: less than ten bucks. I still have the e-mail from this guy trying to justify it all. As a point of information about this topic... overcharging on shipping is against eBay policy (if it's done in an attempt to circumvent their fees). The bad news is it's pretty hard to prove, if you can even find a willing ear to listen to your story. I'm off the soapbox for now. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:30:17 EDT Subject: Catching up with Ron Perry To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jrhatchjr@aol.com This morning I met up with Ron Perry at a small show in Woburn, MA. Ron and his wife Marlene are vacationing in New England, so I was only too happy to catch up with him wander around some tables. As far as the cards went, the show was a near bust: I got nothing and Ron only pair of Exhibits. We took a break after a while and Ron managed to strike out in my dupes box too :-( We may not have done so well in the cardboard department but I enjoyed spending some good time and swapping stories. I very much enjoyed it! Here's to wishing the Perry's a safe journey! Happy Collecting! ================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 23:37:48 -0400 (EDT) To: Traderdoug@aol.com, SeanOBC@ATTbi.com Subject: Mystery shipping on Ebay From: keithsummers@webtv.net To: illini90@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:31:47 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Mystery shipping on Ebay If he doesn;t back down on his shipping, rather than Geno getting negative feedback (although I suppose he will if he backs out), I think all of us should individually email the jerk and let him know we're not interested in ever doing business with him - Doug ================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 06:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Card Show Report To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet Last week, I got an email from the Guru about a card show in Jacksonville. In his message, he told me that he might not get to show up, but just wanted to let me know about it. Sunday morning, I managed to convince Ellen (surprisingly, without resorting to chloroform!) to stop by the show. I finally took Larry's advice and printed my wantlist off the internet -- all 24 pages of it. So, I took a short walk around the dozen tables and took note of who had what. Note: my wantlist was in clear sight as I scanned the tables, but not a single dealer bothered asking me what I was looking for...this will come up again later. One thing I should point out before going into what I found...I'm still not used to attending shows with my daughter. Melissa turns 5 on Thursday and is not different from any other kid. If any of you have ever seen "Bill Cosby: Himself," you'll remember the story of little Jeffrey. Cosby talked about how Jeffrey ran all over the plane on a NY-LA flight. He said that he remembered the kid's name because for the entire flight his poor mother was running behind him, saying, Jeffrey, don't do that...will you SIT down? No, Jeffrey, leave that man alone..." I must look that way with my daughter. At a card show, Melissa sees her Daddy picking up cards and looking through them, so she goes to pick up cards herself. "Melissa, don't touch those." "I'm just looking at them Daddy." "Look with your eyes, sweetheart, not your hands." At one table, I amused Melissa by stroking the bill of an Ichiro bobble head doll. She thought it was neat, but I didn't realize that I had just set myself up for certain disaster. At the next table, the dealer had a ceramic figure of Tiger Woods (ridculously priced, of course). Thinking it was another bobble head doll, Melissa went to grab his head. Fortunately for me, I stopped her in time before she knocked it off the table. As we walked to the next table, I watched the seller wisely move that figure back to an area safer from five-year-old fingers. Then, I found a seller who had some Yu-Gi-Oh! cards, and managed to get Ellen to look through them with Melissa. Melissa loves Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards, and is still young enough that she's just as happy with cheap cards. At one of the local shops, Melissa will spend a great deal of time going through a 3000-ct. box full of 10 cent cards; we'll tell her how many she's allowed to get and she'll pick out the best ones. The best part about that is that she calmed down at the show, and that allowed me to walk back to another table. I went to one table where a seller had some vintage. At the corner of the table, he had a "half off" box with mostly UV stuff. I looked a little in the box and found a '54 Roy Face for $1 and a nice Vida Blue RC for the same price. Then, I pulled two '52 Topps cards (Billy Loes and Eddie Lopat), but wasn't about to drop $40 for both. Then I found something I never would have expected in the bottom of a box: a 1951 Topps Connie Mack All-Star card of Mickey Cochrane! It was without the back part of the card, of course, and the bat had worn off (the card was a solid P), and asked what the seller wanted for it. $50 was too steep, but I got the seller's number and might try to talk him down to my $20 limit. Before leaving his table, I got a Red back of Early Wynn, a couple of Bobby Bonds cards, a '73 Perez in NrMt, a '74 Santo/Brooks AS card and a '78 Topps WS card in NrMt (that was the first card I ever remembered owning...when I told the seller my story and then how those cards disappeared, he let me have the card for nothing). I went over to talk to a dealer who sold Guru a Joe Morgan RC the last time I went, and salivated over some of the stuff on his table. He had a Red Heart Mantle (VG...he wanted $600!), a B18 blanket piece, an M116, and the first '41 Goudey card I've seen in about 15 years. I tried to make a deal with him for the '41 Goudey but he wouldn't budge from the $100 tag. It was in G/VG with a crease and rounded corners, but he didn't care. I found one seller who arrived after I made my first round who was selling only vintage. He had a stack of '55-'57 football, some selected vintage (including a non-dated '51 Topps Teams Red Sox card!) and a near-complete 1967 Topps set. But there's something I haven't told you yet...EVERY single card had all four corners! Most of those corners were razor sharp! His prices were far too steep for my tastes, but I talked with him about the hobby anyway. "Wow, you know your vintage!" he said at one point. Another seller brought over a couple of 1962 Topps stamps, and Jay asked if I could identfy them before he could search through his SCD. Passed with flying colors. Back to my wantlist...During this discussion, Ellen stopped by. Melissa had calmed down (she was the proud owner of a short stack of Yu-Gi-Oh! cards) and Ellen took my wantlist from me. 20 minutes later, she stopped by with a stack of cards for me. A 1960 Bobby Richardson, a '54 Topps Billy Herman, two Johnny Podres cards ('58 and '61) and 2 '70s commons that the guy told her she could keep. Ten minutes after that, she brought by another stack: a '59 Charlie Neal, some '61-'63 commons including "Choo Choo" Coleman's RC (he looks like Bubba in "Forrest Gump," I swear), a '70 Billy Williams and four '69s: the Piniella non-RC, Staub ("Le Grand Orange"'s first as an Expo), Sparky Lyle's RC and the infamous #653 of Leonard Garcia. Actually, the card says it's Aurelio Rodriguez but you all know the story about how the 14-year old Angel batboy appeared instead. With that, Ellen informed me that it was time to go; 2 hours in a card show was enough, but I was about to spend much more time than that in the mall later ("Payback" is how she put it). On our way out the door, Ellen asked "was $20 for all that a good deal?" I guess when she walked to one of the tables with my fat wantlist, the seller -- who didn't say a word to me when I passed by earlier -- was more than accomodating to my wife. Maybe I'll have to drag her along more often. Later, Ellen told me a couple of things that I wish she'd just have kept to herself...including the fact that she passed on a Red Back of Gil Hodges for $6 and a '52T common for less than $5. But she got a good stack without any help from me and manged to get only one dupe...a '62 Topps #316 "Killebrew Sends One into Orbit." It's in VG with a little letter "n" scribbled in crayon on the back. I'll toss it on the waiver wire for the first person who needs it. I don't know if Guru made the show or not, but I had a great time. I was actually surprised that my wife enjoyed it, too. Take care, I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 14:38:22 EDT Subject: email addresses To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com i am sure i am probably missing something obvious, but is there a list of email addresses anywhere? i dont see it in the directory. gm ================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:35:46 EDT Subject: "Amazing" new ebay seller To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com I couldn't believe this when I saw it; take a look for yourselves: Title of item: tops 151 johnny klippsten cincinnati reds Seller: alpha04-25 Starts: Aug-21-03 10:51:42 PDT Ends: Aug-26-03 10:51:42 PDT Price: Starts at $27.00 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie= The seller is brand new; I couldn't help myself so I wrote a semi-polite note telling him/her to invest in a price guide. Needless to say there were no bids. He also had a G-VG 1962 Mays for 70 bucks, & a similarly overpriced Gaylord I didn't even mention that he should a) learn to spell the name of the manufacturer and 2) put the year of the card. ================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Tom Housley's eBay seller To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet This guy's in for a disappointing eBay experience. I'm almost ashamed to admit that I grew up 50 miles from where he lives; I used to sell cards at shows up there and know for a fact that good sense is abundant there. Perhaps the cold winter they had last year gave him frostbite of the brain. I just hope he learns his lesson. I wouldn't pay more than 75 cents for that card. And he put a reserve on it, too! Perhaps I'll be able to give him a good "North Country NY" schoolin' about the business. Take care, --- directorth@aol.com wrote: > I couldn't believe this when I saw it; take a look > for yourselves: > Title of item: tops 151 johnny klippsten > cincinnati reds > Seller: alpha04-25 > Starts: Aug-21-03 10:51:42 PDT > Ends: Aug-26-03 10:51:42 PDT > Price: Starts at $27.00 > To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& > item=2748946578 > The seller is brand new; I couldn't help myself so I > wrote a semi-polite note > telling him/her to invest in a price guide. Needless > to say there were no > bids. He also had a G-VG 1962 Mays for 70 bucks, & a > similarly overpriced Gaylord > Perry. > I didn't even mention that he should a) learn to > spell the name of the > manufacturer and 2) put the year of the card. > Tom I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: Subject: help Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:58:14 -0400 From: "Peter Mead" I have deleted the paypal instructions for the Auction. If someone could email me the OBC treasurers account name--I will be able to send in my payment. The archive in Yahoo groups truncates the address. thanks for your help, peter mead ================= To: "obc-ramblings" Subject: Scary ebay story Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:39:41 -0700 From: "Mike Kinney" I was tring to access my Ebay account about 2 weeks ago, and kept getting an " invalid password" message. To complicate matters, when I tried to change the password, I got a question back asking for my school mascot. I'd never given anyone my school mascot name for a security question! To further muddy the water, my old back up email account (Netzero) was my registered Ebay email address and it too would not accept my password. I knew something was up- so I tried in vain to find a phone number to call. They only had anemail address, but of course they had an email account on file that I could not access! Attempting to contact Netzero was fruitless also- they only had a tech support line that charged $1.95 per minute, so I abandoned that idea. After considerable scouring of ebay help pages, I found a customer support 'chat' line. After waiting a bit, someone listened to my story and told me that it was obvious someone stole my Ebay ID. She referred me to 'Safe Harbor' and another chat line. After 60 minutes waiting, another Ebay repinformed me that my ID was stolen, but no real damage was done. My PayPal account was also intact. We reset my password. I was told that someone had 'listed items' using my ID, but those items had been removed and charges reversed. I thought all was well- I couldn't understand why anyone would go through all that trouble to beat Ebay out of a few bucks listing fees. Thena couple days later, I got an email from someone thanking me for the opportunity to purchase my 42" Plasma Screen TV!! He wanted to know if it was new or 'like new', and had I received his payment. I had to inform him that Ihad no plasma TV and that He's better contact Safe Harbor. I'm not sure how it all started, but I must have responded to a bogus email. I had recently updated my account info, and thought it was a routine check. So- no harm to me, but some poor guy is probably out some serious cash. Beware of bogusemails! Only update info directly from the Ebay homepage! ================= To: "Mike Kinney" ,"obc-ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scary ebay story Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:19:56 +0000 From: Glenn Mike's last couple of sentences really struck a chord with me. As most of you are aware I recently abandoned my old email address due to being completely swamped by spam. Within one day of updating my ebay account with my new addy, I had received a bogus "account check" email. It said that since I had recently made changes to my account, I need to confirm my details - otherwise I may have difficulties accessing my account. As I am fully aware that ebay DO NOT send things like this out, I suspected fruad. After a quick check of my account (no problems with anything at all) I forwarded the message to ebay who confirmed that it was in fact a con and that they had dealt with the sender who they identified through the message headers. Two days later, I received ANOTHER bogus mail identical to the first. Once again, I notified ebay. My worry is this. How was the sender aware that I had recently changed my details? I had received similar bogus messages in the past, but never one worded in this way. Coincidence? If not, someone out there has the capability of knowing when accounts are altered. I'm really starting to get worried about the security issues surrounding sites such as ebay and paypal. They and their subscribers seem to be prime targets for every cyber-crook out there. Stay vigilant, my friends! Glasgow, Scotland ============================================================ From: "Mike Kinney" Date: 2003/08/26 Tue AM 07:39:41 GMT To: "obc-ramblings" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scary ebay story I was tring to access my Ebay account about 2 weeks ago, and kept getting an " invalid password" message. To complicate matters, when I tried to change the password, I got a question back asking for my school mascot. I'd never given anyone my school mascot name for a security question! To further muddy the water, my old back up email account (Netzero) was my registered Ebay email address and it too would not accept my password. I knew something was up- so I tried in vain to find a phone number to call. They only had an email address, but of course they had an email account on file that I could not access! Attempting to contact Netzero was fruitless also- they only had a tech support line that charged $1.95 per minute, so I abandoned that idea. After considerable scouring of ebay help pages, I found a customer support 'chat' line. After waiting a bit, someone listened to my story and told me that it was obvious someone stole my Ebay ID. She referred me to 'Safe Harbor' and another chat line. After 60 minutes waiting, another Ebay rep informed me that my ID was stolen, but no real damage was done. My PayPal account was also intact. We reset my password. I was told that someone had 'listed items' using my ID, but those items had been removed and charges reversed. I thought all was well- I couldn't understand why anyone would go through all that trouble to beat Ebay out of a few bucks listing fees. Then a couple days later, I got an email from someone thanking me for the opportunity to purchase my 42" Plasma Screen TV!! He wanted to know if it was new or 'like new', and had I received his payment. I had to inform him that I had no plasma TV and that He's better contact Safe Harbor. I'm not sure how it all started, but I must have responded to a bogus email. I had recently updated my account info, and thought it was a routine check. So- no harm to me, but some poor guy is probably out some serious cash. Beware of bogus emails! Only update info directly from the Ebay homepage! ============================================================ Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ================= To: DirectorTH@aol.com Subject: Re: Labor Day Weekend Card Show Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:04:51 -0400 From: "LARRY GERSBACH" Tom, Mike, etal, The card show will be this weekend, August 30 & 31, at the Kings Island Resort & Conference Center, just off the I-71 exit, Mason OH. The show begins on Saturday at 10AM until 5PM & on Sunday at 10AM until 4PM. They expect to have 75 dealer tables set up, with lots of vintage available. This is the 11th year in a row for the show & I have gone just about every year. It's a very good show to attend. Unfortunately my wife has informed me that she wants me to take her to visit our recently relocated daughter in Chicago. This obviously changes my entire holiday weekend. I was originally scheduled to referee soccer games and indulge myself with my card board habit. Now if I am real nice, she may let me go to the show Saturday AM before heading north to the Windy City. Oh well, best laid plans of mice & men, MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ================= Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Yahoo Fantasy Football league To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Hey all, I've started up a free Yahoo league this year. The league still has five open spots (or "holes in the binder," if you prefer) and you just need a Yahoo ID to play. Details on joining below: In order to join the group, go to http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1, click on the Sign Up button, choose to "Join an Existing League" and then to "Join a Custom League." Then, when prompted, enter the following information... League ID#: 122962 Password: boycave Go Seahawks! Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:07:46 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Labor Day Weekend Card Show To: larrygers@hotmail.com, DirectorTH@aol.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com Larry & Tom, As of now I hope to attend the show, but most likely will not arrive until Saturday around 1:00. I E-mailed Mike Sandles and he said I would blow through the show in 1 day. Not sure what my Sunday plans will be now. May go back to help Mike or head over to Columbus for a Vintage BB tournament, go up to Cleveland to visit a buddy of mine or head back to Detroit. Tom did you say there was a minor legaue game nearby on Saturday nite we could attend? The show only goes to 5:00 on Saturday. Mike Rich ================= To: "Mike Kinney" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scary ebay story Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:23:22 -0700 From: "Greg \(yaz\)" I, also just changed my email address. I happened to check out an email from Dan Austin before I had a chance to update all my various accounts. Dan stated that he never updated his email address with ebay and just made sure to email the sellers quickly when he won something. I have taken this approach and so far, no spam, no phoney ebay/paypal messages. I'm keeping my fingers Greg (yaz) ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn To: Mike Kinney ; obc-ramblings Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Scary ebay story Mike's last couple of sentences really struck a chord with me. As most ofyou are aware I recently abandoned my old email address due to being completely swamped by spam. Within one day of updating my ebay account with my new addy, I had received a bogus "account check" email. It said that since I had recently made changes to my account, I need to confirm my details - otherwise I may have difficulties accessing my account. As I am fully aware that ebay DO NOT send things like this out, I suspected fruad. After a quick check of my account (no problems with anything at all) I forwarded the message to ebay who confirmed that it was in fact a con and that they had dealt with the sender whothey identified through the message headers. Two days later, I received ANOTHER bogus mail identical to the first. Once again, I notified ebay. My worry is this. How was the sender aware that I had recently changed mydetails? I had received similar bogus messages in the past, but never one worded in this way. Coincidence? If not, someone out there has the capability of knowing when accounts are altered. I'm really starting to get worried about the security issues surrounding sites such as ebay and paypal. They and their subscribers seem to be prime targets for every cyber-crook out there. Stay vigilant, my friends! Glasgow, Scotland From: "Mike Kinney" Date: 2003/08/26 Tue AM 07:39:41 GMT To: "obc-ramblings" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Scary ebay story I was tring to access my Ebay account about 2 weeks ago, and kept gettingan " invalid password" message. To complicate matters, when I tried to change the password, I got a question back asking for my school mascot. I'd never given anyone my school mascot name for a security question! To furthermuddy the water, my old back up email account (Netzero) was my registered Ebay email address and it too would not accept my password. I knew something was up- so I tried in vain to find a phone number to call. They only had an email address, but of course they had an email account on file that I could not access! Attempting to contact Netzero was fruitless also- they onlyhad a tech support line that charged $1.95 per minute, so I abandoned thatidea. After considerable scouring of ebay help pages, I found a customer support 'chat' line. After waiting a bit, someone listened to my story and told me that it was obvious someone stole my Ebay ID. She referred me to 'Safe Harbor' and another chat line. After 60 minutes waiting, another Ebay rep informed me that my ID was stolen, but no real damage was done. My PayPal account was also intact. We reset my password. I was told that someone had 'listed items' using my ID, but those items had been removed and charges reversed. I thought all was well- I couldn't understand why anyone would go through all that trouble to beat Ebay out of a few bucks listing fees. Then a couple days later, I got an email from someone thanking me for the opportunity to purchase my 42" Plasma Screen TV!! He wanted to know if it was new or 'like new', and had I received his payment. I had to inform him thatI had no plasma TV and that He's better contact Safe Harbor. I'm not sure how it all started, but I must have responded to a bogus email. I had recently updated my account info, and thought it was a routine check. So- no harm to me, but some poor guy is probably out some serious cash. Beware of bogus emails! Only update info directly from the Ebay homepage! Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ I was tring to access my Ebay account about 2 weeks ago, and kept gettingan " invalid password" message. To complicate matters, when I tried to change the password, I got a question back asking for my school mascot. I'd never given anyone my school mascot name for a security question! To furthermuddy the water, my old back up email account (Netzero) was my registered Ebay email address and it too would not accept my password. I knew something was up- so I tried in vain to find a phone number to call. They only had an email address, but of course they had an email account on file that I could not access! Attempting to contact Netzero was fruitless also- they onlyhad a tech support line that charged $1.95 per minute, so I abandoned thatidea. After considerable scouring of ebay help pages, I found a customer support 'chat' line. After waiting a bit, someone listened to my story and told me that it was obvious someone stole my Ebay ID. She referred me to 'Safe Harbor' and another chat line. After 60 minutes waiting, another Ebay rep informed me that my ID was stolen, but no real damage was done. My PayPal account was also intact. We reset my password. I was told that someone had 'listed items' using my ID, but those items had been removed and charges reversed. I thought all was well- I couldn't understand why anyone would go through all that trouble to beat Ebay out of a few bucks listing fees. Then a couple days later, I got an email from someone thanking me for the opportunity to purchase my 42" Plasma Screen TV!! He wanted to know if it was new or 'like new', and had I received his payment. I had to inform him thatI had no plasma TV and that He's better contact Safe Harbor. I'm not sure how it all started, but I must have responded to a bogus email. I had recently updated my account info, and thought it was a routine check. So- no harm to me, but some poor guy is probably out some serious cash. Beware of bogus emails! Only update info directly from the Ebay homepage! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Yahoo Fantasy Football league To: obc ramblings From: Jim Beauchemin I tried to join, but I was too late, it was full up! Any chance of increasing the number of teams? --- Matthew wrote: > Hey all, > I've started up a free Yahoo league this year. The > league still has five open spots (or "holes in > the binder," if you prefer) and you just need a > Yahoo ID to play. Details on joining below: > In order to join the group, go to > http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1, click on > the Sign Up > button, choose to "Join an Existing League" and then > to "Join a Custom League." Then, when > prompted, enter the following information... > League ID#: 122962 > Password: boycave > Go Seahawks! > Spike > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:39:16 EDT Subject: This Week in Baseball Cards To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: JEdward@aol.com As some of you may recall my last tirade about how this summer has slipped by without me getting in touch with any of my Tiger fan friends resulted in an email the next day from Ron Perry. Ron mentioned that he and his wife Marlene would be coming to Toledo Thursday night to catch an Eastbound Amtrak and suggested that we get together for a Toledo Mud Hen game. I checked the schedule and sure enough, the Mud Hens were home against first place Louisville that night at 7 PM. Since their train was scheduled for a Midnight departure we had plenty of time to catch the game. My wife Ranaye and I picked them up at the station and the four of us headed over to the Fifth/Third Field. We got upper deck seats on the third base side which was good because even though it was a very warm evening we had a nice breeze blowing in from right field. We couldn't have asked for a better time then what we had with our Hens winning 7 to 3. It was Cody Ross Bobble Head Night and Ron was one of the lucky winners of a way cool bobble head. Ross played RF and went 1 for 4 with a double, two runs scored and a SB. Plus he showed a good arm with a nice throw home. Ron and I couldn't help but speculate the possibility of Ross someday taking over for Bobby Higgenson. We dropped Ron and Marlene off at the station with plenty of time to catch their train and we headed home. I couldn't help but marvel at how much fun it always is to get together with another OBCer. OBC, it's an attitude John's Old Baseball Card Site ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: same problem on ebay scam Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:04:07 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" I also have received emails to give ebay my password etc. The first time I fell for it. I had to change my password and put my accounts on a fraud alert. The second time I knew better. Any email directly from ebay dealing with your "account" should be handled carefully. The best bet is to delete it. ================= Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 23:54:53 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Labor Day Weekend Card Show To: Mikesportsfan@aol.com, larrygers@hotmail.com, DirectorTH@aol.com From: trufan999@aol.com Won't be in Cinci for this show, I have a daughter sleeping over at a friends house, a JV and Varsity soccer game to ref on Sat. and Sunday will end up being my catch up day for house work. I am about three hours NE from there, but isn't there a show coming up in Cleveland in Nov. Help anyone??? ================= Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Booklet Update To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet After all the time spent putting it together, editing the proofs (I'm my own worst editor), and working on the design...I'm supposed to pick up my booklets sometime Wednesday. All OBCers who have sent payment, I have the return envelopes ready. I'll spend the evening accomodating autograph requests for those who requested them and send them to their new owners on Thursday. Hopefully, they should start popping up in your mailboxes by early next week. Now that I've gotten the booklets printed, I just have to go back to the printer and request an additional order if I want to make any more. I'm still taking orders: I'm only asking $5 (my cost), which includes shipping. I've already started advertising the booklet in my newsletter and will soon be selling them on my website. I don't know how lucrative this will be, but I've already started laying the groundwork for a series of booklets, each one covering a specific vintage set ('33 Goudey, '52 Topps, '56 Topps and '53 Bowman at first), and featuring a complete set checklist. I'm planning on making pocket-sized booklets in black and white with a color cover to keep the cost closer to $3 each, but if anybody wants to share any ideas, I'm certainly open to suggestion. This is a work in progress, and probably won't be available for some Anyway...I'm just keeping everybody up to speed. Thanks to all for being patient, and I'll be getting them out very soon. Take care, I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: Subject: 2 NEW SETS THAT ARE ALMOST DONE Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 17:28:24 -0700 From: "terry ellis" 74 LAUGHLINOLD TIME BLACK STARS NEED5, #1.5.8.11.24. 78 LAUGHLIN LONG AGOBLACK STARS NEED3,#9.11.AND32. ANY HEROS? THANKS KIT OKAMURO ================= To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:52:45 -0400 Subject: e bay seller From: Bob Saxton I seldom buy anything on ebay, but have noticed many of the messages some of you have put up regarding problems there, and sellers to watch out for. Has anyone had any dealings with, or know anything about, an N. Peiffer from West VA? A friend of mine, Terry-nonOBCer, bought a 41 Playball of PeeWee Reese and it apparently is counterfeit. In addition to dealing with ebay on it, Terry has been in touch with the consumer fraud units of the attorney generals offices in both WVA and PA, and has obtained the paperwork to file claims with both agencies since he is in PA and the seller is in WVA. http://www.Writing.Com/authors/judgeguy ================= Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:56:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Ebay auction From: "alcattle" An auction of note, I will chip in for the sledgehammer if someone wants to buy this for destructive reasons! I think Terry Woods would http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? Big Al in Seattle ================= Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 01:12:09 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] OBC Ebay auction To: alcattle@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Al you read my mind, this is something Terry should own :)....I think I still have that Fort Washington pic with him holding up the Morgan rookie card. The look on his face was priceless! ================= Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Yahoo Fantasy Football league To: obc ramblings From: Matthew The league slots posted yesterday filled up, but there sounds like enough interest to fill another (and current members can always create another team). Will someone else jump on the Yahoo site and set another one up? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 11:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OBC Morrell Meats Hodges on eBay To: obc ramblings From: Matthew The eBay seller says the Hodges is a key for this set. I just look at the picture and say, "Tipton http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2750085864&category=642 $2 opening, $2 postage. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= To: Subject: Post Savary Ramblings Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:16:45 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Well, at least this visit went well for us. Sorry I can't keep up with Kellen's command of prose, but this will have to do. (By the way Kellen, I have a load of stuff for you that got left behind in your rush to catch the taxi...I'll deliver it to Mike at the Tacoma Show in September.) Used what little authority I have left to abuse my power and raided an ambulance station to put together a first-aid kit that is second to none...trauma dressings, injections for anaphalactic shock, the works. Didn't need it....humfff. Siding is now on 3 sides, and I'll be going back next week to finish the last side. Broke the news to my bride that I am ready to buy a boat. I never realized before just how easy it is to get onto the edge of a divorce. Jenny seems to have no sense of humor whatsoever as she ages. Our builder Vinny (as Kellen calls him) worked almost 3 hours a day while we were there, not including breaks. Seems his prawn traps were calling...not to mention the Dungeness crabs....can you get sick of seafood? Poor old Percy (as Kellen calls him) was still in a lot of ca-ca with the Dragon Lady after our last trip out on the water, so for the most part we stayed clear of both of them. Talk about divorce....that was a very close call for poor old Percy, but in some ways he might have been better off had she followed through with the threat. The PNW Chapter is no doubt aware that a great deal of British Columbia is burning....same as Washington and Oregon...we couldn't help thinking about our friends in the endangered areas while we were away...upon our return, we found that our best friend's (and Best Man at our wedding 20 plus years ago) house had burned to the ground just outside of Kelowna, about 4 hours drive north of Vancouver. They had time enough to just grab a few things and flee. Actually saw him on the morning news today walking through the ashes of what used to be a beautiful home. Missed most of the Redpath Auction, but got a few shots in early before we had to leave. Didn't win one of them....you guys just went crazy, a wonderful thing to see. Going to have to get a notebook or something for the Island, I miss all the Ramblings and nonsense while I'm up there. Anyways, this is turning into a Morganti-like epic, so I will quit now. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:05:04 EDT Subject: Report on Zack Grakal and California Sports Cards To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Some of you may remember that there was a bit of a debate last weekend concerning whether or not to patronize a dealer named Zack Grakal (California Sports Cards) who solicited business from a number of us with e-mails. Some guys said they just ignore such solicitations and felt it was not worth the risk. I took a little different position and mentioned that I risked about $15. in purchases after I saw all the work this guy put into his website. Well, here are some facts about Zack based on what happened after that. I received a lightening fast shipment from California of the four cards I purchased. They seemed to have been represented fairly, and, while I don't think they were cheap, they seemed to be priced pretty accurately. Of course, you also need to realize that he admitted he was trying to put his best foot forward to prove himself to us. I cannot guarantee that you will have the same experience as me, but I am just reporting that the indicators related to my experience are good. ================= Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:45:43 EDT Subject: Another Baseball Fan (Red Sox Fans Should Read) Insert other teams as necessary To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Another Baseball Quote: "To travel hopefully is a better thing than to arrive." ------Robert Louis Stevenson "No, it isn't" ------Any Red Sox Fan Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:26:21 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "rayluurs" Kent has sent these names along with Kurt Tourdot and Dave Murray, as dealers and friends who have contributed to the auctiton but aren't memebers of OBC. I have sent letters to the following people and if you have anymore names that should be added let me know. If i dont hear from anyone I will delete the letterhead from text. X mark people I dont have address for so I will mail out letters to Ken and he will hand deliver next month to them at Ft. Washington. Ken has sent me the following names: Kurt Tourdot "Tiger Dave" Murray Nick Kirksey X John Morrison Ron Barrett X William Chapelle. Plus the guy that Jim Wiehe knows - Dave thanks for letting me help ================= To: Subject: 48 leaf availables Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 18:53:29 -0700 From: "terry ellis" I have ruth, robinson,and williams. only trouble is they have been trimmed.lmk if interested ================= To: Subject: 48leaf Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:05:22 -0700 From: "terry ellis" sorry, this is from kit okamuro ================= Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 03:41:37 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: An apology for over stepping my boundary From: "rayluurs" Two month ago when we first started this I sent out a rambling about wanting to do something of this sort. That if someone would give a list of the dealer who contributed and help with addresses i would mail them at my own expense and do all the work. I also mentioned in letter that I would like some input on this and if it was a bad idea or if someone else was doing it i would step aside. I recieved about ten responses to the rambling..all saying that it was a good idea and to go ahead with it. I now this isnt a ringing ednorsement but my feeling was rest had no real opinion one way or the other Apparently yhat not the case and it has been suggest that I should send out the letter for other to input. Here is what the letter says: ON behalf of OBC, I wish to thank you for our generous contribution to Rick Redpath's memorial fund. We are in the planning stages of our upcoming auction, tenatively to b eheld in August. Sports cards have been donated by several generous card dealers , so we are assured of a very successful auction. All of the proceeds from the auctioned cards will go into a fund for Rick's two children, Ian and Casey. Your kindness is much appreciated. There have been only two sent out so far, one to Tiger Dave who Grant gave me the name to, and Kurt Tourdot who I got to donate a 800 count box for which i am getting credit for donating even though I have told Ken on numerous occasions what little I donated If you want to add something there are four dealers out there I havent sent to as Ken has just sent me names of these people and I havent gotten address on two of them yet. If I cant get them Ken says he will hand deliver to them at Ft Washington. I once again apologize if I overstepped my bounds. But I did as mentioned before sent out a rambling on said project with little response and what response I got was favorable for me to go ahead. ================= Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 12:21:05 -0400 To: rayluurs Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] An apology for over stepping my boundary From: Mark S Talbot Hey Ray,

    I'm not a member of the OBCAC but I see no boundary that could have been crossed in your act of kindness.  The effort to help Rick's kids has not been the sole responsibility of 1 or 2 OBC members, it has been a group effort with many hands helping out.  Your fine with me Ray as well as your thoughtful effort!!!!  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK

"Live long and prosper" - Spock
 *    Mark S. Talbot            
 *    34030 Chatsworth Drive    
 *    Sterling Heights, MI.      48312-4604   *
 *    talbot1@comcast.net       

rayluurs wrote:

 Two month ago when we first started this I sent out a rambling about
wanting to do something of this sort.  That if someone would give a
list of the dealer who contributed and help with addresses i would
mail them at my own expense and do all the work.  I also mentioned
letter that I would like some input on this and if it was a bad
or if someone else was doing it i would step aside.  I recieved
ten responses to the rambling..all saying that it was a good idea
to go ahead with it.  I now this isnt a ringing ednorsement but my
feeling was rest had no real opinion one way or the other

Apparently yhat not the case and it has been suggest that I should
send out the letter for other to input.

Here is what the letter says:

ON behalf of OBC, I wish to thank you for our generous contribution
to Rick Redpath's memorial fund.  We are in the planning stages
our upcoming auction, tenatively to b eheld in August.

Sports cards have been donated by several generous card dealers , so
we are assured of a very successful auction.  All of the proceeds
from the auctioned cards will go into a fund for Rick's two children,
Ian and Casey.

Your kindness is much appreciated.

There have been only two sent out so far, one to Tiger Dave who
gave me the name to, and Kurt Tourdot who I got to donate a 800
box for which i am getting credit for donating even though I have
told Ken on numerous occasions what little I donated

If you want to add something  there are four dealers out there
havent sent to as Ken has just sent me names of these people and
havent gotten address on two of them yet.  If I cant get them 
says he will hand deliver to them at Ft Washington.

I once again apologize if I overstepped my bounds.  But I did
mentioned before sent out a rambling on said project with little
response and what response I got was favorable for me to go ahead.
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================= To: "obc ramblings" Subject: SIMS Classic Sports Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:43:34 -0400 From: I just got done de-slabbing five cards I bought in Sims Classic sale. Seems Sims is now sending his listings to many of his past eBay buyers prior toactually posting the lots on eBay. You can get some good deals--I actually was buying vg Psycho high numbers from .75-2.00 including the graded Kaat, Alston and Murcer I just unslabbed. Also picked up a slabbed Cy Young and Sisler/Traynor checklist from the 61 fleer set for $2.00 a piece. Four of the five slabs came off real easily. The fifth was a real SOB--allwere PGS. I have to believe the toughie was from an earlier version of slab--although I can't say I have done all that much studying of slabs. In any case, if you haven't seen the Sims email sales, I would be happy to send the next one I get to anyone interested. Enjoy the labor day weekend--and be safe. peter mead ================= Date: 31 Aug 2003 09:59:31 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New poll for OBC-Ramblings Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: How many losses will the Tigers end 2003 with? What about Mike Marot? Pick up to 3 choices but only 1 of the 1st 22 choices. Vote by 11:59PM EDT Tues. o 101 o 102 o 103 o 104 o 105 o 106 o 107 o 108 o 109 (1928 & 1942 Phils) o 110 (09 Senators 42W=.276) o 111 (32-RSx/39-Brwns/41-Phils) o 112 (52 Pirates 42W=.273) o 113 (04 Senators 38W=.251) o 114 o 115 (35 Braves 38W=.248) o 116 o 117 (16 A's 36W=.235!) o 118 o 119 o 120 (62 Mets 40W=.250) o 121 (new record!) o 122 (worse Sept ever?) o Marot loses 20 o Marot loses 21! o Tigers worse than 1916 A's pct of .235! To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/surveys?id=11220214 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:55:31 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings From: Originaleek@webtv.net OK, it's one thing to use my beloved Tiger's incompetence as a polling subject, but let's at least spell their names right. They may be just a bunch of losers to the rest of the country but to fans they are still our Home Team, to friends they are still people with hopes & dreams, and to their families they are sons, brothers, uncles, nephews, cousins, husbands and fathers. So for the record the name is Maroth, not Marot. Thank you for your time, now back to the polling...... We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:50:53 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bonds/Maroth polls From: "gtx_usa" I changed the spelling about 2 minutes after I sent the poll, when I realized it was wrong :-) I also did a poll on "How many HRs Bonds will end 2003 with?" but it has not been emailed yet & doesn't show up as a message at the site either. I did it over an hour ago. Good news is the poll showed up instantly. ================= Date: 31 Aug 2003 08:46:34 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New poll for OBC-Ramblings Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: Bonds hit #653 Saturday. How many career HRs do you think he will end 2003 with? Vote by 11:59PM EDT on Tues 9-2, as poll ends Wed sometime. o 653 (no more in 2003) o 654 (60 behind Ruth) o 655 (100 behind Hank) o 656 (4 behind Mays) o 657 (57 behind Ruth) o 658 (2 behind Mays) o 659 (1 behind Mays) o 660 (tied with Mays!) o 661 (3rd All Time!) o 662 (52 behind Ruth) o 663 (51 behind Ruth) o 664 (50 behind Ruth!) o 665 (90 behind Hank!) o 666 (He's got wicked #s!) o 667 (47 behind Ruth!) o 668 (46 behind Ruth!) o 669 (Did you say 69 Beavis?) o 670 (85 behind Hank!) o 671 (43 behind Ruth!) o 672 (42 behind Ruth!) o 673 (41 behind Ruth!) o 674 (40 behind Ruth!) o 675 (80 behind Hank!) o 676 (38 behind Ruth!) o 677 (37 behind Ruth!) To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/surveys?id=11220153 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. ================= To: Subject: Baseball Thoughts Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:01:13 -0700 From: "Diamanti" Well Guys and Gals: As the baseball season works its way towards the playoffs, some of the standings are becoming more obvious and other teams are obviously done for the year. Tigers - - It is pure agony to watch a great guy like Alan Trammel go through what he is enduring. I can only imagine it is no easier for the team, front office, scouts, or any other Tiger fans. I only hope for them that they never have another year like this one - ever KC - - Wow! They are in the write-off category but keep bouncing back, much like the Twins did last year. I feel a kinship with them because Boston and NY Yankee fans have already written the Mariners off - too old, too lame, too dumb, etc. That AL Central division is something else! Mariners/Oakland - - Solid money says Oakland will crush the M's. Peter Gabbons (sp?ESPN) who often has interesting things to say, says that baseballis like no other sport - you wake up one morning and everything looks rosyfor your team - the next day's standings show what terrific bums your teamcan be. I agree! Looks like I need an OBCer to recap the Senior Circuit perspective as I have not enough games under my belt compared with the AL. Also, just finished a book on Elston Howard, first black Yankee. What an interesting read - - he was the quiet guy who had to deal with Casey Stengeland his platooning - working behind Yogi for years. Incidentally, Elston and his wife were deep friends with Yogi and Carmen. Class act and story. Highly recommend it - - (("Elston and Me - The Story of the First Black Ynkee" by Arlene Howard with Ralph Wimbish - 2001.)) Gotta get to work and get back to the games - baseball that is. Mike D. ================= To: "obc-ramblings" Subject: Shameless plug-Dealer scum alert Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:50:42 -0700 From: "Mike Kinney" I'm selling a few cards for a friend on ebay. Although I have no idea what it's worth, there's a '36 Goudey wide pen DiMaggio that's only at $10.00. Thought someone may need it..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item2749765937&category23837&rd1 ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:52:18 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Saturday Surprise! From: Originaleek@webtv.net So there I am at 7:30 Saturday morning tooling down the highway on my way to Monroe where my son has an all day hockey refferee's clinic to attend. Despite the relatively early hour and the fact that I was about a half cup below my coffee quota, I nonetheless spotted it. The sign clearly said "Sports Card Show this weekend"! So much for the briefcase in the back seat stuffed with articles & notes for a seminar I'm doing next week. First things first I always say. My choices were, do I sit in the Arena lobby at a picnic style table outlining the schedule and content for the seminar, or go to a card show....... a no brainer, right?! So I drop my son off at the Monroe Sports Complex and head back to the Gibraltar Trade Center. I get there, and sure enough, there is a card show this weekend. Al Kaline is there to sign autographs but since I have several already, and I did not have a lot of cash on me, I decided to pass on standing in the very long line that was forming. I just wandered around for a while checking out the table offerings. As per usual, mostly over priced UV stuff, but a couple tables held promise. I stopped at a one that had an extensive display of vintage cards, mostly stars & all over priced. The guy never heard of OBC, but he did have several binders under the table that contained lesser conditioned cards. He cleared a spot on the table, loaned me his folding chair, and I entered a state of cardboard grace. It was indeed "amazing" how much time flew buy as I poured over page after page of 50's Bowmans, 50's & 60's Topps and a binder of Post. I ended up buying only about 20 cards the whole day, but it was an unexpected pleasure that was much preferred over my previous plan. It was just enough to prime the pump for next weekend's card show in Redford, where I hope to meet up with some of the local OBCers. Yes, FOOT, there is a card show at the Redford VFW Hall next Sunday, September 7. I'm sure Mike Rich would be happy to provide details ( I lost the flyer that I think I had with the hours.) Gotta go, I've got a seminar to prepare for. We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:13:14 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Pinning my hopes that the group can help From: "mikesportsfan" I picked up some more BB pins yesterday, that I thought were 1969 MLB Ass'n. pins. I already had 22 pins. Virtually none of them match the list in the big SCD. The big book lists 60 pins, 30 AL & 30 NL. AL are supposed to have red borders and NL blue borders. All current players. The ones I had, are mainly Blue AL and Red NL and many of the players are retired HOFers. In fact some of the teams are Brooklyn and Milwaukee Braves. I also have 3 different Al Kalines. 1 blue and 2 red. The red have 1 with his name at top and 1 at the bottom. Does anyone have any info on these. A complete checklist? How about some to swap (although the only dupe I had is on its way to the Phillipines - anyone want to get guess who it was?). Mike Rich ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:41:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Yet another booklet update... To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet I am happy to report that after far more time than I expected, my first group of booklets came in from the printer on Wednesday. Though I'm obviously biased, I must say that I am impressed by the way they turned oiut. After accomodating autograph requests that evening and preparing them to be shipped, I took the packages to the post office early Thursday morning. So, as you're reading this, a stack of my booklets is filtering out across the country (plus one that will be leaving the USA), and may start popping up in mailboxes starting Tuesday. Please feel free to drop your opinion of the booklet on the Thanks server when you've received it. I'm interested in finding out. Take care, Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: ebay scam? To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Collins From: aw-confirm@eBay.com To: oldcardboard Subject: eBay requires your confirmation ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:06:38 -0400 From: "Brian Dwyer" I have received the same thing numerous times in my mailbox. My standard procedure is to always delete such e-mails from eBay and Paypal unless I know that they are coming (i.e. registering for a new account on Paypal, updating preferences, etc.). I figure that if I delete these e-mails and they are indeed real, eBay or Paypal can contact me directly by phone or something. If they need me to clarify or register information so badly, they know where to find me. Until such time as I get a phone call, the delete button gets a great workout. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Collins" To: Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:01 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? > All, > Please take a look at this forwarded message. Is this > an ebay scam? If so, it is the first one I have > received. The e-mail is very official looking with > all of the ebay logos, etc., but the wording as to my > account "problems" seems very vague and inconsistent. > What "problems" would I have with my account, and if I > do have problems, why can't they tell me specifically > what they are? Sounds like a scam to me.... they want > you to login with your password and credit card info. > any ideas? Anybody else receive this same message? > Thanks, > --John > Note: forwarded message attached. > ===== > ________________________________________ > I'm an avid collector of pre-1980 Baseball Cards. > Check out my online wantlist at: > http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index/htm > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). > http://calendar.yahoo.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:07:45 -0500 From: "Tim Newcomb" John and everyone, It's definitely a scam. These things have been circulating for quite a while. I've gotten at least ten of them over the past few months. I think a couple of guys responded to a similar message and got burned to some degree. DO NOT follow up on it! ----- Original Message ----- From: John Collins To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? Please take a look at this forwarded message. Is this an ebay scam? If so, it is the first one I have received. The e-mail is very official looking with all of the ebay logos, etc., but the wording as to my account "problems" seems very vague and inconsistent. What "problems" would I have with my account, and if I do have problems, why can't they tell me specifically what they are? Sounds like a scam to me.... they want you to login with your password and credit card info. any ideas? Anybody else receive this same message? Note: forwarded message attached. I'm an avid collector of pre-1980 Baseball Cards. Check out my online wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index/htm Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:21:36 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Pinning my hopes that the group can help To: Mikesportsfan@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com There are two different sets of pins...the first set is indeed 1969 MLBPA pins and have red and blue for the two leauges. The second set is an unliscenced set issued around 1983 and includes 36 pins of mostly retired players. The two sets do have a way to distingush them...1969 pins read "1969 MLBPA MFG. R.R. Winona, MINN." The 1983 pins do not say "Winona, MINN." Checklist for the 1983 set follows: Aaron, Allison, Berra, Campy, Cash, Cepeda, Clemente, J. Dimaggio, Doerr, Drysdale, Feller, Ford, Fox, Howard, Hunter, Kaline, Koufax, Mantle, Marichal, Mathews, Mays, McCovey, Musial, Oliva, Paige, Rizzuto, Roberts, B. Robinson, J. Robinson, Santo, Snider, Spahn, Skowron, B. Williams, T. Williams, Wills. Hope this helps- ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? To: John Collins , obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Chris Stufflestreet --- John Collins wrote: > All, > Please take a look at this forwarded message. Is > this > an ebay scam? Well, John, let's take a quick look at the email...I'll point out any red flags. "We regret to inform you that your eBay account could be suspended if you don't resolve your problems. To resolve this problems..." Grammatical error. Generally large companies send these types of mail out as a form letter (I remember that when I worked at AOL) which was pre-printed, double-checked for spelling and grammar, cleared through the legal department and automatically generated in the email when the employee clicked a link. That's a bad sign. "please click here and login into your account in order to resolve your problems." Beware any email that asks you to click ont a button to log in. You should always go directly to the eBay website and log in there. "If your problems could not be resolved your account will be suspended for a period of 3-4 days, after that it will be again operational." WHAT???!!! If this is such a big problem and your account is at risk of being closed, why in the name of God would it be suspended for a period of 3-4 DAYS? "Per the User Agreement, Section 9, we may immediately issue a warning, temporarily suspend, indefinitely suspend or terminate your membership and refuse to provide our services to you if we believe that your actions may cause financial loss or legal liability for you, our users or us. We may also take these actions if we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us." Here's Section 9: Without limiting other remedies, we may limit your activity, immediately remove your bids or item listings, warn our community of your actions, issue a warning, temporarily suspend, indefinitely suspend or terminate your membership and refuse to provide our services to you if: (a) you breach this Agreement or the documents it incorporates by reference; (b) we are unable to verify or authenticate any information you provide to us; or (c) we believe that your actions may cause financial loss or legal liability for you, our users or us. Now I realize this is legalese, but really...all this says is that they won't keep your account active if one of the following things happens: 1. You breach the User Agreement (not referenced in this email) 2. EBay can't verify you're who you say you are (and that was presumably done when you set the account up). 3. You pose a liability to eBay or its users (and if that were the case, they wouldn't be asking for your credit card number). "Due to the suspension of this account, please be advised you are prohibited from using eBay in any way. This includes the registering of a new account." Wow...have you actually TRIED opening up a new user account? It's a snap, especially if you use a different name, email address or credit card. Besides, it's phrased in the present tense...it says your account is suspended as of RIGHT NOW. This totally contradicts the earlier statement about your account being down for 3-4 days. "Please note that this suspension does not relieve you of your agreed-upon obligation to pay any fees you may owe to ebay. Safeharbor Department eBay, Inc." Nice trick. I wonder how many people have fallen for the ruse. Yes, it has the eBay logo (which can be easily copied and saved as an image on your PC) and has the same font used in every other eBay communication (easily set up by anybody with a basic understanding of HTML). On the other hand, I wonder how many people have actually decided to drop eBay altogether after thinking that they had been summarily dropped from the rolls as a result of this email. And those are the red flags that jump out from the screen. If you paid close attention to what these people are saying, you'll see that it's a blatant scam. John, this subject might serve you well in your MBA studies as a term paper or case study or something along that line. Take care, Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 14:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? To: Chris Stufflestreet , From: John Collins Chris, all: (As I read your e-mail in the midst of mba case I was thinking a particular study around the lines of scam e-mails such as these would be exactly what you allude to -- how people will believe that anything is real if it looks and feels like the real thing. Kind of like people believing anything they read in the newspaper is true. Certainly the eBay logo and font seem to be pretty convincing in this case. But, as you point out, the logo can be copied with one right click of the mouse, as can the graphics around the form that was sent out. Indeed, it looks very offical. Even the e-mail address it came from "aw-confirm@ebay.com"...looks official. But do you know how easy that is to do? Re-register the name that you want to display on your e-mail account and put in that exact address in the line. Then send an e-mail and you know what it shows up as? Bingo, the exact same thing. But....as those of you who bid frequently on ebay will probably agree....the only time you get an e-mail from "aw-confirm@ebay.com" is when you have actually placed a bid on something. If you get other spam-type messages from ebay, they are likely to show up as being just from "ebay." All this aside, I agree with you that in this case crappy grammer and a vague and inconsistant message is what gives it away. The e-mail insinuates that the user has done something wrong, which is designed to play on your fears that something indeed may have gone wrong. For most people, this is a legitimate fear with using online accounts -- be it ebay, credit cards, banking, or whatever. The key is to read things like this objectively, and then (the official logos and fancy graphics nonwithstanding...) ask yourself if it really makes sense. I think we all agree that this one fails the test. Also, for any of you still reading, two more 1. Nowhere in this e-mail does "ebay" reference my actual username. Any legit e-mails you get from the ebay system (such as the multiple ones I have ignored recently soliciting me to become a powerseller...) always reference your username. 2. The form below all the bad grammar asks if the account is a "buyer or seller" account. This is another dead giveaway. eBay does not distinguish between a buyer or seller account when you setup a user ID -- there is no such thing. You can perform either function with any account. It's clear to me that whoever came up with this scam is pretty good with the graphics and setup....but whoever they are, the didn't do their homework when it comes to actual ebay policy and procedure. And the gramatical content looks like the person could use another stint in middle-school english as well. Better luck next time, scammers. In the meantime, I have a couple of "real" 1952 Topps #311 cards that I would like to sell you for a bargain price... --- Chris Stufflestreet > --- John Collins wrote: > > All, > > > > Please take a look at this forwarded message. Is > > this > > an ebay scam? > Well, John, let's take a quick look at the > email...I'll point out any red flags. > "We regret to inform you that your eBay account > could > be suspended if you don't resolve your problems. To > resolve this problems..." > Grammatical error. Generally large companies send > these types of mail out as a form letter (I remember > that when I worked at AOL) which was pre-printed, > double-checked for spelling and grammar, cleared > through the legal department and automatically > generated in the email when the employee clicked a > link. That's a bad sign. > "please click here and login into your account in > order to resolve your problems." > Beware any email that asks you to click ont a button > to log in. You should always go directly to the > eBay > website and log in there. > "If your problems could not be resolved your account > will be suspended for a period of 3-4 days, after > that > it will be again operational." > WHAT???!!! If this is such a big problem and your > account is at risk of being closed, why in the name > of > God would it be suspended for a period of 3-4 DAYS? > "Per the User Agreement, Section 9, we may > immediately > issue a warning, temporarily suspend, indefinitely > suspend or terminate your membership and refuse to > provide our services to you if we believe that your > actions may cause financial loss or legal liability > for you, our users or us. We may also take these > actions if we are unable to verify or authenticate > any > information you provide to us." > Here's Section 9: > ----- > Breach. > Without limiting other remedies, we may limit your > activity, immediately remove your bids or item > listings, warn our community of your actions, issue > a > warning, temporarily suspend, indefinitely suspend > or > terminate your membership and refuse to provide our > services to you if: (a) you breach this Agreement or > the documents it incorporates by reference; (b) we > are > unable to verify or authenticate any information you > provide to us; or (c) we believe that your actions > may > cause financial loss or legal liability for you, our > users or us. > ----- > Now I realize this is legalese, but really...all > this > says is that they won't keep your account active if > one of the following things happens: > 1. You breach the User Agreement (not referenced in > this email) > 2. EBay can't verify you're who you say you are (and > that was presumably done when you set the account > up). > 3. You pose a liability to eBay or its users (and if > that were the case, they wouldn't be asking for your > credit card number). > "Due to the suspension of this account, please be > advised you are prohibited from using eBay in any > way. This includes the registering of a new > account." > Wow...have you actually TRIED opening up a new user > account? It's a snap, especially if you use a > different name, email address or credit card. > Besides, it's phrased in the present tense...it says > your account is suspended as of RIGHT NOW. This > totally contradicts the earlier statement about your > account being down for 3-4 days. > "Please note that this suspension does not relieve > you > of your agreed-upon obligation to pay any fees you > may > owe to ebay. > Regards, > Safeharbor Department > eBay, Inc." > ----- > Nice trick. I wonder how many people have fallen > for > the ruse. Yes, it has the eBay logo (which can be > easily copied and saved as an image on your PC) and > has the same font used in every other eBay > communication (easily set up by anybody with a basic > understanding of HTML). On the other hand, I wonder > how many people have actually decided to drop eBay > altogether after thinking that they had been > summarily > dropped from the rolls as a result of this email. > And those are the red flags that jump out from the > screen. If you paid close attention to what these > people are saying, you'll see that it's a blatant > scam. John, this subject might serve you well in > your > MBA studies as a term paper or case study or > something > along that line. > Take care, > Chris > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com I'm an avid collector of pre-1980 Baseball Cards. Check out my online wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index/htm Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:17:03 -0400 (EDT) To: oldcardboard@yahoo.com (John Collins) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay scam? From: Originaleek@webtv.net If that did in fact did come from ebay, I may have just made up my mind about setting up an account. I've been toying with the idea for a couple weeks but am still undecided. The errors in that message make some of our OBC ramblings look like literary works of art. Which, save Kellen's recent post, is a real stretch. We keep what we give away! ================= To: Subject: boxing exhibits Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:59:46 -0700 From: "terry ellis" anyone need? they are green ink. lmk, kit okamuro ================= To: "obc-ramblings" Subject: oops forgot the link... Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:02:46 -0700 From: "Mike Kinney" http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/sf/downloads/bonds_HRs.pdf ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Kinney To: obc-ramblings Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: FYI- Interesting home run research paper I found this on the Giant's website. It does focus on Barry Bonds' but takes in a great deal of historical info- especially Aaron, Ruth and Mays- it's19 pages long! enjoy- Mike ================= To: "obc-ramblings" Subject: FYI- Interesting home run research paper Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:01:42 -0700 From: "Mike Kinney" I found this on the Giant's website. It does focus on Barry Bonds' but takes in a great deal of historical info- especially Aaron, Ruth and Mays- it's19 pages long! enjoy- Mike ================= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:47:56 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com 121 new record ================= To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" Subject: Tri-Star in S.F. Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 18:11:28 -0700 From: "Geordie Calvert" Hey all - took a day off and went over to the Tri-Star show in San Francisco today. Was going to try to meet up w/ Trips, but he had a baseball game to go to, so I went solo. Lots and lots of slabbed stuff, lots and lots ofUV, lots and lots of vintage memorabilia, and not very much off-grade vintage. Met or reaquainted with a handful of dealers that knew us, including a guy from the Chicago area that knows Joel. Managed to drop some money atBill Henderson's, saw Roger Neufeldt, and dropped some more money with a dealer that Peter & Josh do business with, Paul. Completed my '50 and '51 Bowman Dodger sets, got a little closer on '57, '71, '73, '74 and '65 Embossed. Overall had a good time. ================= Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 02:33:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: need some 70's hoops memphis state From: "mark zentkovich" need these for my new memphis tigers collection: Larry Finch 74-75 Larry Finch 75-76 Ron Robinson 74-75 hope someone can help with a trade on these.. I have a UV post on that server with some newer stuff I need as well.. thanks, mark