================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:02:06 EST Subject: April Fool To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: JEdward@aol.com OK... someone's gone too far. I know it's April Fool's Day, but I'd still like to get my email from the OBC servers. I haven't gotten a single thing from any of the servers in 24 hours! Is this getting out? Can someone email me directly if they get this. Can I get back on the OBC servers? ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:26:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Larger 1953 and 1954 lots on eBay To: obc ramblings From: Matthew The same seller has a mislabeled 1952 (actually 53) lot of 25 cards and a 1954 lot of 105 cards, as well as a Lasorda RC. His feedback is 5 (one neg, several months back), so you might net a cheap buy...if you feel lucky. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=642&item=2720567329 Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com ================= To: "obc ramblings" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Larger 1953 and 1954 lots on eBay Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 11:56:12 -0800 From: "Greg Conway" the catch here is a $15.00 s&h charge. What the heck I'll bid anyway. feel free to jump over me though. Greg (yaz) ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew To: obc ramblings Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:26 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Larger 1953 and 1954 lots on eBay The same seller has a mislabeled 1952 (actually 53) lot of 25 cards and a1954 lot of 105 cards, as well as a Lasorda RC. His feedback is 5 (one neg, several months back), so you might net a cheap buy...if you feel lucky. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category642&item2720567329 Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: 1970 & 1973 hi#s on ebay Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 21:52:04 +0100 From: "Glenn Codere" Check out seller codyp2000. Loads of 1970 and 1973 semihi and hi#s, all starting at 50c. There's still a long way to go, but if you're looking for any of these, it might be worth your while to go in soon with LOTS of low bids. Who knows what you'll come up with? (I call it the "scattergun". Spray enough shots around, and you're bound to hit something!) I've dealt with this guy a few times in the past. He's OK. Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 17:24:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 & 1973 hi#s on ebay To: Glenn Codere From: Mark S Talbot Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT He's a good seller as well,

    I've picked up a good bunch of stuff.  Always satisfied - be certain to figure your S&H in you bids, that's how he is able to list them so low.  BE WELL!!!

REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK

"Live long and prosper" - Spock
 *    Mark S. Talbot            
 *    34030 Chatsworth Drive    
 *    Sterling Heights, MI.      48312-4604   *
 *    talbot1@comcast.net       

Glenn Codere wrote:

 Guys,Check out seller codyp2000. Loads of 1970 and 1973 semihi and hi#s, all starting at 50c. There's still a long way to go, but if you're looking for any of these, it might be worth your while to go in soon with LOTS of low bids. Who knows what you'll come up with? (I call it the "scattergun". Spray enough shots around, and you're bound to hit something!)I've dealt with this guy a few times in the past. He's OK.GlennGlasgow,
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================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 19:24:35 EST Subject: Project: Marked Checklists To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Hey gang: I've been working sporadically on some articles and I am getting ready to finish up one on 1967 Topps high numbers. If any of you have marked 7th series 1967 checklists with about 25 numbers or less still to go (i.e. unmarked on the checklist), I would appreciate it if you could shoot me an e-mail detailing the cards still needed to finish off the checklist. Anything from about 25 unchecked cards down to one lonely unchecked card is welcome--just the card numbers though, no need for the player's name unless you like typing :-). I'm also going to canvass the wantlists at the website to see what numbers people are lacking in this series. I have a theory that 11 cards are much harder to find than the others in this series and want to see if I am right before I complete the article. Also, if anyone has any access to uncut topps baseball sheets (full sheets only) from 1952-72, please let me know as I'm trying to piece together sheet configurations for certain series in these years. Thanks! ================= Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 01:02:47 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: V03 advice for newbies From: "alcattle" AS I get ready to leave for Vegas, I wanted to pass on some advice for the new guys. Since I have been to Vxx every year, almost always on time, you should listen and learn. One is make sure you get good maps. Order them early so they will come in time to leave them at home. If you make a mistake, and take one with you, make sure no one else in the car can read a map. These are the same people who can't drive so you are assured of driving the 3.5 days trip. The AAA has good maps if you ask for the scenic route, which goes through Utah and Texas. Two Remember you can't get there from here. There is no direct route from Reno to Vegas. You either go down and back up halfway before you get on the right road going south. Going through California is faster, shaves alamost a day off the trip. I have told you about hotels, just make sure you have no idea where in town the place is, it won't matter as everything is 20 minutes to the strip. If you are on the strip, 20 minutes includes the parking lot and having to make 3 right turns to go left. Rookies this year have it easy as there is no ball game. You can't drive to Cashman Field for Las Vegas. I find that you can find it by driving until the sign says Reno and turn araound. You also have to remember that no one gets to the games until the first pitch so there is a 20 minute wait to pay $12 to park then a mile to walk to the Also plan to get lost going to Railroad Pass Friday night. It is easy to find but Mike will tell you it is just around the corner from his house yet it is closer to 50 miles. The card shop is also easy to find and we have a good start this year. Two turns and you are there but the last turn is the Jack in the Box sign which you see as you pass it. See above to return to shop (3 rights make a left). Some gambling basics: put all your money on the table and do not touch it unless the dealer tells you to, which makes sense as once it is on the table it is theirs. Sometimes they let you move it to a different area of the table. This is called placing a bet. Place the smallest amount allowed as this will let you play for up to 12 Other tips, do not eat in the place you stay, at least at the buffet. There are a couple places the buffets rank above baff plus but none of the strip hotels are safe, at least the ones charging under $20 a plate. Coffe shopp food will sustain you and eat ribs and wings which is all you need. One last tip, bribe the cook! Bringing a huge handfull of cards assures you that he will give you a good helping of food that did not fall on the ground. Big Al in Seattle I did not bother to change the names because you are know who are the ================= Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 11:20:25 +0800 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1970 & 1973 hi#s on ebay From: Lynn Miller Concur, good guy with great deals. And Glenn's correct, just spread bids all over the place, you'll end up getting a couple for the minimum. Go for more if you want. Lynn Glenn Codere wrote: > Guys, > Check out seller codyp2000. Loads of 1970 and 1973 semihi and hi#s, > all starting at 50c. There's still a long way to go, but if you're > looking for any of these, it might be worth your while to go in soon > with LOTS of low bids. Who knows what you'll come up with? (I call it > the "scattergun". Spray enough shots around, and you're bound to hit > something!) > I've dealt with this guy a few times in the past. He's OK. > Glenn > Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 22:32:33 EST Subject: T209 Contentnea Color Pictures To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: amcook93@aol.com I posted scans of all 16 cards in the 1910 T209 Contentnea Color set today. You can see them at T209 Contentnea Color ================= Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 02:34:17 EST Subject: Soon to be availables... Major League Writers To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: XTrJmx@aol.com Hi all... I know I'm crossing the line here but I want to make sure I get enough of these for everyone. First warning: they are a UV set. 2nd... they are not a typical baseball set. However, they are an incredibly cool little set issued in 1990 called Major League Writers and feature, yup, authors of baseball literature. The cards are well done with neat info on the back. I'd looked for this set for about 8 years because I wanted to have a card of WP Kinsella (Field of Dreams and many other fantastic stories) and had never found them until just before Christmas (when I couldn't afford the s/h on 'em). About a month ago, I finally ordered four sets (Linda, Bob D'Angelo, and Josh... you're taken care of) and was surprised by how neat they were... clearly created as a labor of love. I recently read a post that states that the set is also featured in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Anyway, I was trying to figure out who else I should order more sets for and it finally dawned on me that I have no clue how many or who would like one. I was going to order an extra set to break up for singles, as I know some folks would prefer a type card, some collect HOFers (and there are several in the set) or just a particular author. Finally, as I was chatting with Steve R. about it, I decided I'd just ask. FYI, here are the writers who are featured: Henry Chadwick Jacob C. Morse Francis C. Richter Grantland Rice Lee Allen Joe Reichler Red Smith Dick Young Jim Brosnan Charles Einstein Lawrence Ritter Roger Kahn Robert Creamer W. P. Kinsella Harold Seymour Ron Shelton Tom Clark Mark Harris John Holway Peter Golenbock Jim Bouton John Thorn Mike Shannon (who actually wrote all the text for the issue) Almost as interesting (to me, at least) as the writers chosen for the set are the scores of fantastic writers who were not included. Anyway, if any of you want a set or certain writers, let me know and I'll get an order put in (no reimbursement expected). Sorry if this seems out of line for this server but I hope you all understand why I decided to post here. Take care and have a great day... ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 1961 Lot on Ebay - Anyone want to split? Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 14:55:42 +0000 From: Glenn Codere There's a nice lot of 50 '61s on Ebay (including quite a few semihi#s) , finishing in just over 6 hours (12:43PST). Current bid is $9.99. I need 10 cards from the lot, but the seller doesn't take PayPal. Is there anyone out there working on '61s who would care to put in a joint bid for this? I'm happy to contribute $10 (+ a few bucks to cover shipping costs), if someone else would like to throw in whatever they would bid for the other 40 cards. The cards that I need are: 364,407,423,474,491,498,499,511,513,519. the link is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2719778580&category=2929 Let me know if you'd like to join me! Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 23:04:11 +0800 To: Glenn Codere Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 1961 Lot on Ebay - Anyone want to split? From: Lynn Miller 513 & 519 won't cost you anything :>) Lynn Glenn Codere wrote: >There's a nice lot of 50 '61s on Ebay (including quite a few semihi#s) , finishing in just over 6 hours (12:43PST). Current bid is $9.99. I need 10 cards from the lot, but the seller doesn't take PayPal. Is there anyone out there working on '61s who would care to put in a joint bid for this? I'm happy to contribute $10 (+ a few bucks to cover shipping costs), if someone else would like to throw in whatever they would bid for the other 40 cards. >The cards that I need are: 364,407,423,474,491,498,499,511,513,519. >the link is: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2719778580&category=2929 >Let me know if you'd like to join me! >Glasgow, Scotland >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 11:49:42 EST Subject: spam, spam, spam, spam, spam and spam To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: JEdward@aol.com It appears that for a period from early Mar 31 to early Apr 1 for some reason I was unable to recieve email from anyone unless it was spam. Sort of a reverse spam filter I guess. Anyway, things seem to be working again now, so on the off chance anyone did try to contact me I didn't get it, please try ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: for all you graduate degrees / students out there Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:47:40 -0800 From: "John Collins" On a subject COMPLETELY unrelated to baseball cards, I know that there are plenty of you out there who either hold an advanced degree or are currentlyin graduate school. On that note, I am in the process of applying for financial aid for a graduate program, and am going through the whole FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid) process again for the first time since I was a senior in high school, oh, some 9 years ago. Needless to say, I don't remember much about If anyone has any advice / experience with federal student aid / loans I would appreciate it if you could contact me. I think I've done everything right, but to tell the truth, well.....this stuff is downright confusing !! OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: jim brown rookie Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 17:17:15 -0600 From: "terry ellis" jim brown rookie in at least ex mint cond for trade. listening to all offers. thanks kit okamuro Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] URGENT !!!! PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!!!!! Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:28:08 -0500 From: "galtemos" After the 1927 season, Rogers Hornsby was traded from the Giants to the Braves. In 1928, Hornsby's place on the Giants was taken by Andy Cohen. In the very early days of the 1928 season, Cohen was hot and Hornsby was cold, and some reporters started talking about Cohen might be just as good or better than Hornsby said they should not do that, because pretty soon he would start hitting, and they would soon forget about Cohen. And, of course, that came true. > From: smartalecx@aol.com > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] URGENT !!!! PLEASE READ IMMEDIATELY!!!!! > Date: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:56 PM CUBS 15-16-0 (1-0, 1st PLACE!!!!!! Kerry Wood 1.0000) mets 2-4-2 (0-1, LAST PLACE!!!!!! Tom Glavine .000) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Checklists needed Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 9:29:48 +0000 From: Glenn Codere I think I asked this some time last year, but it doesn’t hurt to ask again just in case! Over the course of the past 18 months, I’ve started to accumulate a number of Detroit Red Wings and Detroit Lions cards. I’m hoping to expand these collections in the near future, but at the moment I don’t have any kind of checklist/wantlist against which to gauge my progress. Does anyone out there in OBCLand have a simple method of producing team specific checklists? What I specifically need is the following: Detroit Red Wings: Checklists (incl league leader/trophy cards, all-stars, and other subsets) for all pre-1981 Topps, OPC, and Parkhurst cards Detroit Lions: Checklists (incl league leader/trophy cards, all-stars, and other subsets) for all pre-1981 Topps and Philadelphia cards I can find full checklists for specific sets on the web, but I’m unable to distinguish cards relating to specific teams. I’m hoping that someone has some software that allows lists like this to be generated at the touch of a button. Hope someone can help! Glasgow, Scotland ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Who wants an SCP? Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 9:54:28 +0000 From: Glenn Codere I really wanted to send this one out to someone unsolicited, and didn't think I'd have any trouble finding it on a wantlist....but I have to admit, I'm struggling! So, who's collecting '64T Giants and needs #50 Brooks Robinson? Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 12:58:56 EST Subject: Unusual Minor League PCL item available To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jazzgirl1920s@aol.com Hi- this is Linda- i have an unusual PCL minor league item available for anyone in the group collecting this sort of thing- it is a blue ticket to a Hawaii Islanders PCL baseball game- Special Third Base Section-at Honolulu Stadium- i would like to give this to a group member who specializes in this sort of item-ALSO a few cards available- NO PAYBACK NECESSARY- 1934-36- Diamond Stars- # 12- Dixie Walker T-206-Willis -St. Louis Nat'L 1953 Mothers cookies # 28- Pete Milne, Outfielder Oakland Baseball Club 1953 topps # 171- Bill Glynn 1952 topps # 23 BB- Billy Goodman- pin hole at top 1960 topps Hi# 552- Walt Bond 1955 topps # 123- Sandy Koufax rookie- small square paper scuff at top of card not affecting player image- ================= To: Subject: Anniversary Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 15:41:46 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" Hard to believe the DH rule is 30 years old. Ron Blomberg, where are you ================= Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 20:37:20 EST Subject: Kevin Wolf, tonight is your night! To: OBC-Ramblings@Yahoogroups.com From: malsman250@cs.com Saw something happen in the Tribe game tonight, and I knew it would appeal to one OBC member - and after reviewing the membership list I remembered that the interested guy would be the Wolfman. And why? In tonight's game, what may be one of baseball's rarest phenomena - a North Dakota born pitcher (Rick Helling) pitching to a North Dakota born batter (Tribe rookie Travis Hafner). Somewhere, Roger Maris is smiling tonight. Bill Malson ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Is this really a virus?? Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 20:56:48 -0800 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- Do any of you computer guys know anything about this? Is it real or a hoax? I found the file three times on my computer, but I don't want to delete it if it is not really a virus... Take Care, Geno Geno Wagner Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: dave skowron > To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; > Date: 4/3/2003 8:50:06 PM > Subject: Fwd: VIRUS WARNING > Sorry to bug you all, but got this warning from a friend and found the > in 2 places on my computer. Thought I'd play it safe and pass this on to > all of you--better safe than sorry. Instructions are below. Hope > is doing well. > Dave > Instructions: > Please check your computer for a virus which came in from a third party > email. Follow the instructions, and advise others on your address book. > A virus has been passed to me by a contact. My address book WAS nfected. > Since you are in my address book, there is a good chance you will find it > in your computer too. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe)is not detected by > Norton nor McAfee anti-virus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days > before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger and by > the address book, whether or not you sent Emails to your contacts. > Here is how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it: > PLEASE DO THIS!! > 1. Go to Start, then click your 'Find' or 'Search' option > 2. In the file folder option type the name...jdbgmgr.exe > 3. Be sure you search your C drive and all sub folders and any other > you may have. > 4. Click "find now" > 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe > DO NOT OPEN IT!!!! > 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the > file without opening it > 7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go to > the recycle bin > If you find the virus you must contact all of the people in your address > book so they can eradicate it from their own address books!! > To Do This: > 1. Open a new email message > 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "To:" > 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" > 4. Copy this message and paste to e-mail > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ================= To: "Geno Wagner" , OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this really a virus?? Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:00:09 -0800 From: "Geno Wagner" Never mind...I just found it on Norton's website and it is a hoax...sorry! > [Original Message] > From: Geno Wagner > To: > Date: 4/3/2003 8:57:09 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Is this really a virus?? > OBCers -- > Do any of you computer guys know anything about this? Is it real or a > hoax? I found the file three times on my computer, but I don't want to > delete it if it is not really a virus... > Take Care, Geno > Geno Wagner > illini90@earthlink.net > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > [Original Message] > > From: dave skowron > > To: ; ; > ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; > ; ; > ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; ; > ; ; > ; ; > ; > > Date: 4/3/2003 8:50:06 PM > > Subject: Fwd: VIRUS WARNING > > > > Sorry to bug you all, but got this warning from a friend and found the > file > > in 2 places on my computer. Thought I'd play it safe and pass this on > > all of you--better safe than sorry. Instructions are below. Hope > everyone > > is doing well. > > > > Dave > > > > > > Instructions: > > Please check your computer for a virus which came in from a third party > > email. Follow the instructions, and advise others on your address book. > > A virus has been passed to me by a contact. My address book WAS nfected. > > Since you are in my address book, there is a good chance you will find > > in your computer too. The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe)is not detected by > > Norton nor McAfee anti-virus systems. The virus sits quietly for 14 days > > before damaging the system. It is sent automatically by messenger and by > > the address book, whether or not you sent Emails to your contacts. > > Here is how to check for the virus and how to get rid of it: > > PLEASE DO THIS!! > > 1. Go to Start, then click your 'Find' or 'Search' option > > 2. In the file folder option type the name...jdbgmgr.exe > > 3. Be sure you search your C drive and all sub folders and any other > drives > > you may have. > > 4. Click "find now" > > 5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name jdbgmgr.exe > > DO NOT OPEN IT!!!! > > 6. Go to edit (on the menu bar) and choose "select all" to highlight the > > file without opening it > > 7. Now go to File (on the menu bar) and select delete. It will then go > > the recycle bin > > If you find the virus you must contact all of the people in your address > > book so they can eradicate it from their own address books!! > > > > To Do This: > > 1. Open a new email message > > 2. Click the icon of the address book next to the "To:" > > 3. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" > > 4. Copy this message and paste to e-mail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: availables Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 19:55:28 -0800 From: "Geno Wagner" Here's a few: 1966: 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 25, 31, 32, 37, 42, 45, 46, 47, 51, 52, 53, 85, 102, 131 1977 Football: 112, 131 Geno Wagner Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ================= To: Subject: Savary Island Update Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 10:58:27 -0800 From: "Grant Rainsley" As a result of several requests for proof that this place and/or project does exist, evidence has now been placed on the Yahoo Groups site. This evidence takes the form of photographs, not touched up or altered in any way. I realize a lot of members don't want their computers clogged up while photos download, so for those that wish to see the pics: Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/ Sign in with your Yahoo ID Go to My Groups, then Ramblings Click Photos Pics are in an album called, appropriately enough, Savary I'll leave them up there for a week or so, then delete them. A couple of the pics didn't want to load, so I had to hit the Reload button. Enjoy, Grant ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Hall of Fame Exhibit at Chicago's Field Museum Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:42:10 -0600 From: "George Vrechek" I visited Chicago's Field Museum of Natural History today which features the dinosauer "Sue", exhibits on the South Seas, Egypt, Senegal, AND the Hallof Fame Exhibit of some 400 items traveling from Cooperstown. While the area for the baseball exhibit is not huge, I was pleasantly surprised by the range and quality of items on display. For you baseball card fans there is THE Wagner in a huge case by itself. I think this is the one Burdick donated. It has a good-sized push-pin hole in it I think and round corners but I'd take it. There are also numerous older tobacco, candy, gum etc cards eg DeLong, Leaf, Kahn's, T206s, Triple Folders, Sporting Life etc. Babe Ruth's 60 home run bat is there next to Maris' 61 home run bat, then aMcGuire bat, Sosa's etc. Ty Cobbs spikes, Shoeless Joe's shoes, old baseballs, old advertising pieces, items from the Negro League, Japan, All American Girls League, equipment oddities, trainer's box, picture of Babe in justa towel getting a heat treatment. Great stuff. My wife pulled me out after2 hours. Came home with a replica 1951 St Louis Brown's hat from their gift shop which looks to be running out of stuff. I'd recommend a visit or wait until it comes to a neighborhood nearer you. Also got to the White Soxs soggy home opener yesterday.Have good tickets for a lousy Bulls team tonight. All in all a good weekend for sports. George Vrechek ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Savary Island Update Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 17:54:06 -0500 From: "toppsrun368" I tried to get into the group page, but it says I am not subscribed. Can whoever is in charge of the Yahoo Group please check to see if I am subscribed under the right user ID? I think I was added when I joined OBC, but I am not sure. Brian Dwyer Yahoo ID spacktrack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grant Rainsley" To: Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Savary Island Update > As a result of several requests for proof that this place and/or project > does exist, evidence has now been placed on the Yahoo Groups site. This > evidence takes the form of photographs, not touched up or altered in any > way. I realize a lot of members don't want their computers clogged up > photos download, so for those that wish to see the pics: > Go to http://groups.yahoo.com/ > Sign in with your Yahoo ID > Go to My Groups, then Ramblings > Click Photos > Pics are in an album called, appropriately enough, Savary > I'll leave them up there for a week or so, then delete them. A couple of > pics didn't want to load, so I had to hit the Reload button. > Enjoy, Grant > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 17:30:36 EDT Subject: Giants 6 Wins No Losses! A's 4 Wins 1 Loss! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com What a great start to the season! Giants win the first six on the road and the A's 4 out of five! I will be at the game tonight watching Hudson throw against the Angels and I can't wait! Perhaps a win tonight against the World Champs will help me to begin to forget game 7 of the World Series last year! It is great to have baseball back to melt away some of the stress I am sure many of us are feeling right now! Another Baseball Quote: "It's easy to stay in the majors for 7 and half years when you hit .300. But when you hit .216, like me, it's really an accomplishment." ------Joe Lahoud as an Angels outfielder 1975 Tripleplay (Rick) ================= To: "obc" Subject: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Giants 6 Wins No Losses! A's 4 Wins 1 Loss! Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 16:51:37 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" It's only because they played my Brewers. God, arn't they awful? Brewers have played 6 games so far, been shut out in 2 and hit a total of 12 HR's in the other 4 games, and still 0-6, hard to figure this game out! Ken Goetsch ----- Original Message ----- From: tply@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Giants 6 Wins No Losses! A's 4 Wins 1 Loss! What a great start to the season! Giants win the first six on the road and the A's 4 out of five! I will be at the game tonight watching Hudson throw against the Angels and I can't wait! Perhaps a win tonight against the World Champs will help me to begin to forget game 7 of the World Series last year! It is great to have baseball back to melt away some of the stress I am sure many of us are feeling right now! Another Baseball Quote: "It's easy to stay in the majors for 7 and half years when you hit .300. But when you hit .216, like me, it's really an accomplishment." ------Joe Lahoud as an Angels outfielder 1975 Tripleplay (Rick) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 23:36:04 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fw: [OBC-Ramblings] Giants 6 Wins No Losses! A's 4 Wins 1 Loss! From: "rayluurs" It could be worse. My son's team is the Detroit Tigers ( he like the old style lettering on the hat) and they have only scored four runs before todays game. I am being told by friends when going to Vegas take the under of them winning 68 games. ================= Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 20:01:51 EDT Subject: Disc-Go Mania... Papa Gino's available To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: XTrJmx@aol.com Hi all... As you've already noticed, I won a dirt-cheap (hey, that's me!) but nice batch of 1978 Papa Gino's discs on e-bay a couple weeks ago. After sending out Red Sox to Steve R., starter sets for our own Papa Geno and Mike Hair, and a few singles for folks who collect certain players, I still have a slew for whom I need to find homes. The following are up for adoption, FCFS. I also have a small handful of other intentionally round cards listed below the Papa Gino's cards. An address helps, if you happen to think of it. Take 1978 Papa Gino's Collector's Series Disks AVAILABLE: #2 -- Jerry Remy, Red Sox (x2) #3 -- Jack Brohamer, Red Sox (x2) #4 -- Butch Hobson, Red Sox #10 -- Bob Montgomery, Red Sox (x2) #16 -- Tom Burgmeier, Red Sox (and former Twin) (x2) #28 -- Ron Guidry, New York Yankees (had a pretty good year that year!) (x5) #29 -- Bruce Bochte, Mariners (St. Al? Don't know if you collect the odd #30 -- Richie Zisk, Rangers (x2) #33 -- Frank Tanana, Angels (x4) #34 -- Buddy Bell, Indians (x3) #35 -- Rod Carew, Twins (x3, and that's after pulling ones already for Doug D., Kevin, Loren, and myself) #37 -- Ralph Garr, White Sox #38 -- Larry Hisle, Brewers (and former Twin... sure hated losing him!) (x3) #39 -- Mitchell Page, A's (don't remember him at all...) (x3) 1976 BUCKMAN'S DISCS: Jim Kaat, Phillies Mickey Lolich, Mets Tony Perez, Reds 1976 ISALY'S (and Sweet Williams Family Restaurants): Ron Cey, Dodgers Pete Rose, Reds 1976 Disc stamp on the back for Franky Speaking #105, 185 Westfarms Mall, I-84 and New Britain Ave., Farmington, CT 06032: Bake McBride, Cardinals ================= To: Subject: Availables Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 22:54:39 -0400 From: "toppsrun368" Have the following available FCFS.... 1961 Fleer: 13,36 1970 Fleer WS: 35,50 1976 Topps Traded: 85T, 411T 1963 Post/Jello: 154 1962 Post: 17,39,73,38,17,190,123,171,162,182,146,160,176,177,132 1961 Post:44,48,198,199 1959 Topps:257,275,16,225,342,356,422,219,275,177,107,432,189,39,234,136,228,305,418 1955 Topps: 11 1956 Topps: 119 (trimmed) 1966 Topps: 168,23,96,319,413,266,136,444,66,181,141,253,3,6,33,334,147,101,165 1969 Topps: 281,360,337,228,160,247,171,285,149,299,106,78,21,123,229,326,236,327,593,135,327,67, Let me know what you need. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Available Baseball Fiction Book Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 04:03:33 +0000 From: "Jeffrey Sackmann" I just finished reading a book called "Taking the Field," which is a collection of 19 baseball short stories, including fiction from Ring Lardner, Nelson Algren, Jack Kerouac, Mordecai Richler, James Thurber, Richard Wilbur, Andre Dubus, and others. Most of it is pretty good--stories on all sorts of baseball topics. I am pretty sure that it is due to the generosity of an OBCer that I have this book in the first place, so I am happy to send it to any other OBCer that may want to read it. FCFS. I ~hope~ that when you finish with it, you'll post a message like this one and send it along to yet another interested OBCer. Jeff Sackmann Jeff Sackmann http://www.jeffsackmann.com MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: baseball book taken (already!) (no msg) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 04:19:20 +0000 From: "Jeffrey Sackmann" Jeff Sackmann http://www.jeffsackmann.com Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: help Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 13:00:52 -0500 From: "terry ellis" i need some sugestions on how to handle something. i want to buy a 52 mantle on ebay , but the seller has only 8 feedbacks and im not sure whether i can trust them with a 3000 transaction. any help is greatly appreciated. kit The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] help Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 14:06:55 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" >> i need some sugestions on how to handle something. i want to buy a 52 >> on ebay , but the seller has only 8 feedbacks and im not sure whether i >> trust them with a 3000 transaction. any help is greatly appreciated. kit >> okamuro DON'T DO IT! The OBC dealer list has lots of reputable dealers who'd love to sell you a '52 Mantle. The risk is just not worth it on ebay. If you strike out on the dealer list, write me. I know some other people who are not on the list. Steve R. ================= Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 20:21:29 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: re: weekend card show , ebay and misc ramblings From: "David Skoglund" Spring is in the air, even in Minnesota, and it strangely enough it smells like cardboard. I went to a card show on Saturday and, as usual, spent all of my money at Kurt Tourdot's table. To be fair, I did take a quick spin and looked at all the other tables but nothing caught my eye. I picked up a box of cards (what Kurt calls the "Skoglund Special") so that I could restock my dupes box a bit. I also picked up a couple of special Tipton items that have already hit the mail in search of new homes. Aside from the 12 cards I found in the box that I needed, I also picked up two cards for myself. A 1956 Yogi Berra and Curt Simmon. Only 26 more to go on that set and there are only two spendy cards on that list, Luis Aparicio and Don Larsen. Got a couple of bargains on eBay last week, an off grade '58 Killebrew and a '63 Fleer Wills. After many months of not being very active in OBC, I've been trying to make up for lost time. My goal for the year is to send at least one package to every OBC member. I know I probably won't meet that goal considering there are a few scary wantlists out there, but I think it'll be fun to see how close I can get. I haven't had much of a chance to watch baseball on TV yet. I saw about a half hour on opening day. DirectTV had a bunch of the MLB channels for free last week, but we were either out of the house or we were tuned into Playhouse Disney or PBS Kids. It's not that my daughter doesn't like baseball, it's just that she likes the Wiggles more. :) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] help Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 20:50:45 +0000 From: "Jeffrey Sackmann" I would agree with Steve, with one difference. It is always possible to get a great deal from a new eBayer who just happens not to have much feedback. One great way to minimize the risk is to use escrow. (eBay has an affiliation with an escrow service that makes this very easy.) Escrow works like this: you send the escrow people the money (plus a small fee), the escrow people tell the seller to send your card, you get to check over the card, make sure it's authentic and as-described, and if you are satisfied, then and only then do the escrow people send the seller your money. If you're not satisfied, you send the card back, you get your money back, and you're only out the escrow fee. If you consider this option, make sure the seller will use Escrow. Some (like me) indicate in their description they will use escrow. Others will agree to it if you ask. If they aren't willing to agree to it, that's a sign (though not a certainty) that they've got something to hide, and then do just what Steve says, and back away from the Mantle. One last thing: if you do go with the escrow option, I would suggest arranging a meeting with somebody locally who you trust when it comes to cards--somebody who could offer an informed second opinion on the card's validity. Some Mantle RC reprints are pretty convincing, but most experienced dealers should be able to tell the difference. [end of rambling] Jeff Sackmann http://www.jeffsackmann.com From: "Steve Rittenberg" Reply-To: "Steve Rittenberg" To: "Ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] help Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 14:06:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.66.71]) by mc8-f18.law1.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Mon, 7 Apr 2003 11:50:09 -0700 Received: from [66.218.67.192] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2003 18:34:17 -0000 Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 7 Apr 2003 18:34:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 92148 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2003 18:08:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2003 18:08:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.54) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2003 18:08:44 -0000 Received: from user-uiveng1.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.247.94.1] helo=srittenberg66)by conure.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1)id 192b2w-0006bB-00for OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 07 Apr 2003 11:08:43 -0700 X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Q1OJDRSDidP X-Sender: srittenberg66@earthlink.net X-Apparently-To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <023701c2fd30$b1be6e20$c750f7a5@earthlink.net> References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Yahoo-Profile: srittenberg Mailing-List: list OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; contact Delivered-To: mailing list OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2003 18:50:10.0151 (UTC) >> i need some sugestions on how to handle something. i want to buy a 52 >> on ebay , but the seller has only 8 feedbacks and im not sure whether i >> trust them with a 3000 transaction. any help is greatly appreciated. kit >> okamuro DON'T DO IT! The OBC dealer list has lots of reputable dealers who'd love to sell you a '52 Mantle. The risk is just not worth it on ebay. If you strike out on the dealer list, write me. I know some other people who are not on the list. Steve R. Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Availables: Groucho Marx items Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:25:00 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" Are there some people in OBC who collect Groucho Marx stuff? I recently picked up a couple of nice items I want to send out. ================= Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 15:04:29 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Redford show From: "mikesportsfan" Not sure if this message went through, but there is a show this Sunday at the Redford VFW from 9-3. OBC friendly dealer, Mike Sandals will be there. Last show had a few other dealers with vintage material, especially publications. Ron Perry and I have already confirmed attendance. I am expecting to either do lunch afterward at Steak N Shake or possibly head down to the Coma (Comerica Park for the uninformed)to catch the Tiger game which starts at 1:05. LMK if you plan on attending. Mike Rich ================= Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:10:50 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) To: "OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com" Subject: can you identify this poster? From: "Kent Montgomery" Can any one help me identify the following poster?? I have come across a bunch of them but I can't figure out what year they are from. Any help would be appreciated.=0D ================= Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:54:44 -0400 To: groucho1001@attbi.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] can you identify this poster? From: toppsrun368@aol.com 1970 Topps Posters, I believe. ================= Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:11:09 -0500 To: _thanks , Subject: mailzin! /OBC Live From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...a nice hit from JOE ISSAC came in. Check another one off the list of 1974 Topps Washington variations. Joe sent Rich Morales! Thank you Joe! I picked up a Washington Willie McCovey at the quarterly Rock's Dugout card show in Wichita this weekend. Also in attendance, OBC Superstar TODD KNOWLES! Sentenced to Oklahoma City for training, Todd drove up Sunday for the show and a quick visit to the KPPh (Kansas Phillies Phoundation)...(my basement). At the card show, Todd beefed up his dupes box and beamed with pride as veteran cardmeister Joe Ruocco complimented his deal-finding prowess. The day before, Deb and I made the road trip to OKC for a card show rendezvous with Todd at the "Kitchens of America Building" on the Oklahoma State Fairgrounds. After scouring the other tables for good stuff, Todd introduced me to well-known OBC-friendly dealer Roger Neufeldt. Nice fella! All told, I scored a few Johnny Rookies, some Bowman Phillies and (courtesy of Todd) some newspaper photos and clippings of Tony Taylor and other phavorites. I also found out that Todd can put away the soup & salad just as well as the smoked beef brisket. It was great to see you again Todd! Thanx...Rick Svetecz...The Biggest Phillies Fan in Kansas (Ph03) ================= Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 20:53:26 +0800 To: Ramblings Subject: For Our Golfing Friends From: Lynn Miller Top 10 Remarks by a Caddy (I think all 10 apply to me) Golfer: "Think I'm going to drown myself in the lake." Caddy: "Think you can keep your head down that long?" Golfer: "I'd move heaven and earth to break 100 on this course." Caddy: "Try heaven, you've already moved most of the earth." Golfer: "Do you think my game is improving?" Caddy: "Yes sir, you miss the ball much closer now." Golfer: "Do you think I can get there with a 5 iron?" Caddy: "Eventually." Golfer: "You've got to be the worst caddy in the world." Caddy: "I don't think so sir. That would be too much of a coincidence." Golfer: "Please stop checking your watch all the time. It's too much of a Caddy: "It's not a watch - it's a compass." Golfer: "How do you like my game?" Caddy: "Very good sir, but personally, I prefer golf." Golfer: "Do you think it's a sin to play on Sunday? Caddy: "The way you play, sir, it's a sin on any day." Golfer: "This is the worst course I've ever played on." Caddy: "This isn't the golf course. We left that an hour ago." Golfer: "That can't be my ball, it's too old." Caddy: "It's been a long time since we teed off, sir." ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Weekend show Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 12:14:22 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" Weekend mall show in Owing Mills Maryland. Anyone going? ================= Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 11:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: OBC-style eBay lots To: obc ramblings From: Matthew http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2721564777&category=31719 1916 Sporting News, maybe? Lot of 10 for $33 right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2721206342&category=636 A real Allen & Ginter? $1 right now ($4 shipping). Other old ones from the same seller: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2721205017&category=636 (T206?) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2721204300&category=636 (Winner's Circle Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ================= To: "Lynn Miller" , "Ramblings" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] For Our Golfing Friends Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 05:17:30 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" What about the two old guys out golfing...one tees off and really smacks it. He says to his partner "My eyes aren't so good anymore, did you see where that went?" His buddy says, "I sure did, but now I don't remember." > [Original Message] > From: Lynn Miller > To: Ramblings > Date: 4/9/2003 4:57:48 AM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] For Our Golfing Friends > Top 10 Remarks by a Caddy (I think all 10 apply to me) > #10 > Golfer: "Think I'm going to drown myself in the lake." > Caddy: "Think you can keep your head down that long?" > #9 > Golfer: "I'd move heaven and earth to break 100 on this course." > Caddy: "Try heaven, you've already moved most of the earth." > #8 > Golfer: "Do you think my game is improving?" > Caddy: "Yes sir, you miss the ball much closer now." > #7 > Golfer: "Do you think I can get there with a 5 iron?" > Caddy: "Eventually." > #6 > Golfer: "You've got to be the worst caddy in the world." > Caddy: "I don't think so sir. That would be too much of a coincidence." > #5 > Golfer: "Please stop checking your watch all the time. It's too much of a > distraction." > Caddy: "It's not a watch - it's a compass." > #4 > Golfer: "How do you like my game?" > Caddy: "Very good sir, but personally, I prefer golf." > #3 > Golfer: "Do you think it's a sin to play on Sunday? > Caddy: "The way you play, sir, it's a sin on any day." > #2 > Golfer: "This is the worst course I've ever played on." > Caddy: "This isn't the golf course. We left that an hour ago." > #1 > Golfer: "That can't be my ball, it's too old." > Caddy: "It's been a long time since we teed off, sir." > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 22:07:47 -0500 To: _ramblings Subject: Friend in Baltimore? From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...I got something nice in the mail from William Gurtler. Anybody know who that is? Did I miss something? I'm sure not complainin'...just curious. Steve?? Thanx...Rick Svetecz ================= Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 11:57:59 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Friend in Baltimore? To: debrick@onemain.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com In a message dated 04/10/2003 8:08:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, debrick@onemain.com writes: > OBC Friends...I got something nice in the mail from William Gurtler. > Anybody know who that is? Did I miss something? > I'm sure not complainin'...just curious. Steve?? > Thanx...Rick Svetecz > OBC-OK! Me too...I was very surprised by a very nice package yesterday from a William Gurtler. Included some very nice Perez-Steele Artwork of my Phillies from a set that was given away at the ballpark in 1983. Anybody know who the mystery man is. And if so, pass on my heartfelt thanks. ================= Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 12:07:05 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Friend in Baltimore? To: Wite3@aol.com, debrick@onemain.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com i think william gurtler is bill gurtler, also known as jedibill. i know he is in some other groups (VCT at least). so perhaps he is trying to join obc. ================= Date: 11 Apr 2003 22:08:01 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Availables From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Here's the latest round of cardboard. As always FCFS. 1953 Topps Look n See: 92 120 1955 Bowman: 47(trimmed) 1964 Topps: 31 45 61 66 68 82 99 106 111 113 122 124 127 c129 149 154 162 196 199 203 279 370 1966 Topps: 2 3 13 1`6 21 23 33 35 38 40 41 42 47 49 53 61 63 65 73 77 78 82 107 111 112 122 136 147 152 156 159 176 190 196 197 208 242 248 260 261 263 269 395 1970 Topps: 2 4 5 8 12 13 14 15 19 22 23 24 28 29 30 32 34 35 37 38 41 44 46 47 50 51 55 58 74 76 81 82 86 87 88 89 92 97 100 101 103 104 105 106 108 122 124 125 156 127 132 139 144 156 162 165 168 173 179 187 193 216 218 223 241 266 267 274 277 283 294 297 298 299 301 303 319 322 337 338 354 357 358 364 368 370 372 376 384 386 388 406 407 411 414 420 430 442 446 447 448 481 515 ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 07:24:59 +0800 To: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Friend in Baltimore? From: Lynn Miller That is the same Bill Gurtler. I came to know Bill during my days in Diego Garcia, we traded a few times. Great guy. I lost touch with him. But after Steve's email (who is responsible I think for contacting Bill and having all those cards/oddballs sent) I contacted Bill again myself. Was great connecting with him again. I don't believe he has any thoughts of joining OBC, just doing good deeds on Steve's behalf. Lynn smartalecx@aol.com wrote: > i think william gurtler is bill gurtler, also known as jedibill. i > know he is in some other groups (VCT at least). so perhaps he is > trying to join obc. gm ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:18:06 EDT Subject: BULLETIN: WHITE SOX TO DISBAND To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: smartalecx@aol.com Chicago (AP) - the chicago White Sox shocked the sports world today by announcing they were disbanding. the announcement followed a loss by the sox to the .140 hitting detroit tigers. the victory was the first of the season for the tigers, who were rumored to be considering a move to the Class A Sally League. more details as they are received. ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 17:09:22 EDT Subject: Seattle Bound To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com OK gang, after planning and aborting a business trip to Seattle about five times this year, I am finally heading out--next week. I'll be in town Tuesday and Wednesday (15th and 16th) and very possible have Wed nite free (it's still a little up in the air). If any of you Seattle OBC'ers are around, you can send me a quick e-mail this weekend. I won't know what's up until I arrive (late Monday evening) but I would not mind trying to get in a visit to U-trade on Wed. I haven't been to Seattle in about 6 or 7 years so I am looking forward to this. I'm kinda bummed Ruby Montana's closed though....... ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 18:53:37 -0400 (EDT) To: smartalecx@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] BULLETIN: WHITE SOX TO DISBAND From: Originaleek@webtv.net Smartalec ! We keep what we give away! ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Five Left! Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 16:17:00 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- After an Ebay win today, I am within five cards of completing my 1966 set! Does anybody have a spare of any of these lying around? I'll scrounge through my dupes box to see what I have to trade if anybody wants to: 1966 Topps: 563(Twins Rookies) 580(Billy Williams) 583(Tigers Team) 589(Lou Klimchock) 591(NL Rookies) Take Care, Geno Geno Wagner Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 23:36:08 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: tiger fan From: "alcattle" A poor Tiger fan was headed to the game. He parked a block from the field and got out of his car. He then realised he forgot his tickets on the dashboard. He went off to get help and when he got back, someone had smashed his windshield and left 3 more sets of tickets. Tigers Win! Tigers Win! They might still win 50 games this year. Big Al In Seattle ================= Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:51:46 -0400 (EDT) To: alcattle@earthlink.net (alcattle) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] tiger fan From: Originaleek@webtv.net Are you related to that Smartalec guy? We keep what we give away! ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Rick Redpath Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:31:42 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Received this email from Roberta Redpath. Please keep Rick in your thoughts and prayers. To all of our friends: Things with Rick have been quite variable during the last many weeks. The high point was a trip to Florida in early march where Rick was able to see three spring training games in Fort Myers. The lows have come since then with the news that his tumor has continued to grow. That was detected along with a diagnosis of hydrocephalus (excess spinal fluid in his brain), which was treated with the insertion of a shunt. The combination of the two had caused him to loose his ability to walk, along with a great deal of cognitive processing. He is recovering from the surgery slowly, and it is still not clear how many of his recent symptoms will be corrected by the shunt. He is able to walk with assistance, and will probably go home tomorrow. I wish I could say he was in his usual good spirits. He seems pretty flat right now, I am hoping to see an improvement tomorrow. It is not clear what we will do next. We will see his surgeon and oncologist next Friday for a follow-up, and make some decisions then. We continue to appreciate all of the positive energy and prayers that you can send our way. ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 02:27:15 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] BULLETIN: WHITE SOX TO DISBAND To: Smartalecx@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Does that mean chicago has NO major league teams? - Doug ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:24:29 -0400 (EDT) To: bdonaldson@callisma.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath From: Originaleek@webtv.net I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:15:11 -0400 (EDT) To: Originaleek@webtv.net, bdonaldson@callisma.com Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath From: Neal Thomas WHat a great idea. Count me in for whatever we do! ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath Date: 04/13/2003 07:24am I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? We keep what we give away! ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/QBiolB/TM To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:28:25 +0800 To: Originaleek@webtv.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath From: Lynn Miller What a fantastic idea. And comes from a man who spends his professional life helping others with disabilities of a different sort, but still the same process. Earl, you're thinking better than the rest of us on this one, good on ya! My proposal would be that since Rick and the family just returned from "spring training" that their house can probably use a "spring cleaning". I would guess there are services that do that sort of thing. Count me in on this project for one of our "family". Lynn Originaleek@webtv.net wrote: >I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. >This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard >campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has >got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a >trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly >appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought >in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group >we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared >to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath >Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? >We keep what we give away! > EEK >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Subject: Rick Redpath Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 06:46:17 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" One of the most brilliant ideas I have heard in a long time. Is anyone close enough that they might be able to drop by the Redpaths and do a bit of a "scouting mission" to see what might be the most appropraite? I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? We keep what we give away! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 10:36:25 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: Originaleek@webtv.net, bdonaldson@callisma.com From: tply@aol.com Great idea, count me in! ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 10:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: tply@aol.com, Originaleek@webtv.net, bdonaldson@callisma.com From: Bob Farrell I'm in as well. We have had one heck of a winter here in NE. How about hiring a crew to go by the house and do a spring cleanup ? I'm willing to bet there is plenty of yard work which needs to be done. Just a thought. --- tply@aol.com wrote: > Great idea, count me in! Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:28:25 -0700 From: "Dave Fallen" Lynn is right - Earl certainly is thinking well. As someone more astute than I pointed out, OBC is not just about cardboard. Please count me in on -Dave Fallen ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath > I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. > This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard > campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has > got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a > trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly > appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought > in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group > we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared > to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath > Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? > We keep what we give away! > EEK > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:00:58 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" I would think that we could do an inside cleaning (I believe it would be in the area of $75) and an outside cleaning (couldn't be more than about $200) and a few delivered dinners at maybe $40 each. With all that, you are still talking $10 each if only half of the group chips in... A drop in the bucket! We could split the chores.... one person arrange the meals, one the outside clean-up, one maid service, and one more to collect all the money and pay whoever needs to be paid. Rick lives a little far for me to go by the house, but I could arrange a gift certificate from a close-to-Rick restaurant. Anyone else to volunteer for the other 3 jobs? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Miller" To: Cc: ; "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath > What a fantastic idea. And comes from a man who spends his professional > life helping others with disabilities of a different sort, but still the > same process. Earl, you're thinking better than the rest of us on this > one, good on ya! My proposal would be that since Rick and the family > just returned from "spring training" that their house can probably use a > "spring cleaning". I would guess there are services that do that sort > of thing. Count me in on this project for one of our "family". Lynn > Originaleek@webtv.net wrote: > >I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. > >This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard > >campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has > >got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a > >trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly > >appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought > >in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group > >we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared > >to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath > >Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? > > > > > > > >We keep what we give away! > > EEK > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:34:53 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" I will give Roberta a call this week and see if I can feel her out as to what might be the biggest help. When the time comes I can also drop by the house as he only lives about 1/2 hour from me. I'll keep the group posted. -----Original Message----- From: Sean McGowan [mailto:seanobc@attbi.com] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 5:01 PM To: ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath I would think that we could do an inside cleaning (I believe it would be in the area of $75) and an outside cleaning (couldn't be more than about $200) and a few delivered dinners at maybe $40 each. With all that, you are still talking $10 each if only half of the group chips in... A drop in the bucket! We could split the chores.... one person arrange the meals, one the outside clean-up, one maid service, and one more to collect all the money and pay whoever needs to be paid. Rick lives a little far for me to go by the house, but I could arrange a gift certificate from a close-to-Rick restaurant. Anyone else to volunteer for the other 3 jobs? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Miller" To: Cc: ; "OBC Ramblings" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath > What a fantastic idea. And comes from a man who spends his professional > life helping others with disabilities of a different sort, but still the > same process. Earl, you're thinking better than the rest of us on this > one, good on ya! My proposal would be that since Rick and the family > just returned from "spring training" that their house can probably use a > "spring cleaning". I would guess there are services that do that sort > of thing. Count me in on this project for one of our "family". Lynn > Originaleek@webtv.net wrote: > >I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. > >This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard > >campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has > >got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a > >trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly > >appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought > >in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group > >we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared > >to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath > >Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? > > > > > > > >We keep what we give away! > > EEK > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:17:17 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Fwd: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath From: Originaleek@webtv.net From: OriginalEEK@webtv.net (Earl Kilbourn) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:09:14 -0400 (EDT) To: seanobc@attbi.com (Sean McGowan) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:17:05 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: bdonaldson@callisma.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com That is great and I think we should all wait and hear what you learn from ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:20:30 -0400 (EDT) To: tply@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath From: Originaleek@webtv.net To: bdonaldson@callisma.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:17:05 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath That is great and I think we should all wait and hear what you learn from ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:10:51 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: Originaleek@webtv.net, bdonaldson@callisma.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com And to think, this came from a man that had me counting stop signs on the way to David's house! Awsome idea! Count me in... ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath Date: 4/13/2003 7:25:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: Originaleek@webtv.net To: bdonaldson@callisma.com CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (OBC Ramblings) I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? We keep what we give away! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: < Received: from rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (rly-zd02.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.226]) by air-zd02.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZD22-37f63e99494730b; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:25:59 2000 Received: from n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.106]) by rly-zd02.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZD22-39a3e994935366; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:25:42 -0500 Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Apr 2003 11:24:31 -0000 X-Sender: OriginalEEK@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_2_6_5); 13 Apr 2003 11:24:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 67972 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2003 11:24:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Apr 2003 11:24:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2003 11:24:29 -0000 Received: from storefull-2173.public.lawson.webtv.net (lawson-public-ipmux-1-pip-5.public.lawson.webtv.net [209.240.212.25]) by smtpout-2001-1.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 96EFCBE8F; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 04:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-2173.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id EAA04936; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 04:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 To: bdonaldson@callisma.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (OBC Ramblings) Message-ID: <20063-3E9948ED-2987@storefull-2173.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Bob Donaldson" 's message of Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:31:42 -0400 X-eGroups-From: OriginalEEK@webtv.net (Earl Kilbourn) From: Originaleek@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Profile: originaleek2002 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com; contact Delivered-To: mailing list OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:13:52 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: Originaleek@webtv.net From: kwg0@aol.com Great idea, very inspirational and in true OBC tradition. Count me in, too. Cheers, Kent ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:19:08 -0400 To: vct@lists.vintagecardtraders.com,obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 3 back variations on 1960 Topps? From: Dan Austin In a recent issue of Beckett Vintage, there was a short blurb about the "discovery" of a third back variation on the 1960 Topps. A trading buddy of mine has been kind enough to pass along some of the images he received from a contact at Beckett and I have posted them here: http://www.iamdanaustin.com/wantlist/60backs.html I have to admit seeing the difference in the 2 "white back variations". Take a peek at the site and see what you think. I'd be interested to hear what you find in your dupes boxes and sets and if anyone has encountered this "variation" in the past. Comments on this issue are definitely welcome... - Dan Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare ================= Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:20:03 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: Originaleek@webtv.net From: smartalecx@aol.com earl: count me in. gm ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:14:40 -0400 Subject: Oh NO Hockey back variations!!! To: vct@yahoogroups.com From: Mark S Talbot Hello All, Dan's recent posting on "additional Back variations" on `60 Topps Baseball got me looking at my collection. I was bit by the "variation" bug a while ago and you find all these "crazy" things now on my want list. Recently I added some selected Hockey sets and I had finished one of them recently so I decided that it was time to put some of these from the boxes into albums and that's when it happened. I discovered "back variations" in this crazy set and I just got to have them. These variations occurred in the `76 and `77 Topps glossy insert set, like the Topps team card inserts of the 70's from baseball and football I discovered that these hockey cards come with (1) asterisk and (2) asterisks variations. Hence I now have a new quest to complete both of the variation sets (I know - I'm sick), I got some dupes as well so LMK if you need any of these, or have any that I need. Here's the dupes, go ahead and claim them: 1976 Topps Glossy Hockey Inserts w/1 * - 11 1977 Topps Glossy Hockey Inserts w/1 * - 3, 8, w/2 ** - 1, 9, 10, 11, 15, 17, 18, 22 Here is my new want list for these cards: 1976 Topps Glossy Hockey Inserts w/1 * - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 13, 15, 16, 18, 19. w/2 ** - 1, 2, 6, 8, 11, 12, 14, 17, 20, 21, 22. 1977 Topps Glossy Hockey Inserts w/1 * - 5, 7, 11, 12, 13, 16, 18, 20, 21, 22. w/2 ** - 2, 8, 19. So take what you want from the dupes and any help on my "crazy" sickness would be appreciated. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@comcast.net * ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#2722069922: LOT OF 1958 (320) & 1959 (253)TOPPS TOTAL 573 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:36:56 PDT From: familytoad@harborside.com tempting lot with many many cards to fill your set or dupes with... Title of item: LOT OF 1958 (320) & 1959 (253)TOPPS TOTAL 573 Starts: Apr-09-03 18:15:08 PDT Ends: Apr-14-03 18:15:08 PDT Price: Currently $103.56 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2722069922 Item Description: THIS IS A LOT FOR 320 1958 TOPPS CARDS AND 253 1959 CARDS. THERE IS 573 TOTAL CARDS ARE IN THIS LOT. ALL OF THE CARDS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION WITH SOME IN FAIR CONDITION. SOME ARE REAL NICE AND ABOUT 5% OF THE CARDS ARE IN POOR CONDITION. 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THANKS & HAPPY BIDDING!  View my other auctions below  View all items in my sdGallery varRef = document.referrer Affordable auction management solutions @ SpareDollar Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:20:02 EDT Subject: Re: 1960 gray/white backs To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Dan, gang: The 1960's from 375-440 have been known to have white or gray backs for a long time, it's just not that publicized compared to some other issues. In fact, 1960 5th series has a slew of stock variations, namely three! Check it out, this is how my research shows1960 break downs for card stock: 1- 110 CREAM BACKS 111 - 198 GRAY BACKS 199 -286 CREAM BACKS 287 -374 GRAY BACKS 375 -440 WHITE/GRAY/CREAM BACKS 441- 506 GRAY BACKS 507 -572 GRAY BACKS Topps started having quality control issues around 1960 and while previous issues had used different card stocks, I don;t recall another year where a seriues had three distinct types. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1960 gray/white backs Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:44:04 +0000 From: Glenn Codere OK, this is just going a bit too far!!!! Just last month, I decided to split my 1960 5th series cards into their distinctive back colors, thinking there were just two. It was going to be my first real go at "variations". NOW I'm told there are 3 different backs!!!! My name is Glenn, and I'm a cardoholic. Please help me. Glasgow, Scotland ============================================================ From: dsh46@aol.com Date: 2003/04/14 Mon PM 02:20:02 GMT To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: 1960 gray/white backs Dan, gang: The 1960's from 375-440 have been known to have white or gray backs for a long time, it's just not that publicized compared to some other issues. In fact, 1960 5th series has a slew of stock variations, namely three! Check it out, this is how my research shows1960 break downs for card stock: 1- 110 CREAM BACKS 111 - 198 GRAY BACKS 199 -286 CREAM BACKS 287 -374 GRAY BACKS 375 -440 WHITE/GRAY/CREAM BACKS 441- 506 GRAY BACKS 507 -572 GRAY BACKS Topps started having quality control issues around 1960 and while previous issues had used different card stocks, I don;t recall another year where a seriues had three distinct types. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ============================================================ ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:00:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Rick Redpath From: "larryobc" I want to participate. Keep us advised. ================= Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 23:47:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mastro Auction From: "kevin71058" Hi all, I do not know if anyone received the Mastro Auction Book. There are some great deals in this auction, but the problem is that the bidding starts at 1000 dollars on most of these lots. Why so much well one lot has 4 Ryan Rookies in it. These are great cards in great condition..I already have one other person willing to split a lot..I would like to have 2 more join us and we split it 4 ways..well worth the investment. Let me know if anyone would be interested in joining me and Bill Gutler (TB AND VCT) ..I figure about 500 dollars a piece.. Happy Trading, ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:21:48 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: Originaleek@webtv.net, bdonaldson@callisma.com From: Sweendoger@aol.com Let me know how I can contribute. In a message dated 4/13/2003 4:25:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, Originaleek@webtv.net writes: > Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath > Date: 4/13/2003 4:25:58 AM Pacific Standard Time > From: Originaleek@webtv.net > To: bdonaldson@callisma.com > CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Sent from the Internet > I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. > This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard > campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This has > got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a > trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she greatly > appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals brought > in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this group > we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am prepared > to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta Redpath > Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? > We keep what we give away! > EEK ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:43:09 -0500 To: Sweendoger@aol.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath From: "Dr. John V Harrell" I'm in. Sweendoger@aol.com wrote: > Let me know how I can contribute. > In a message dated 4/13/2003 4:25:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Originaleek@webtv.net writes: >> Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath >> Date: 4/13/2003 4:25:58 AM Pacific Standard Time >> From: Originaleek@webtv.net >> To: bdonaldson@callisma.com >> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Sent from the Internet >> I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. >> This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard >> campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This >> has >> got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a >> trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she >> greatly >> appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals >> brought >> in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this >> group >> we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am >> prepared >> to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta >> Redpath >> Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? >> We keep what we give away! >> EEK > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "Ramblings \(OBC\)" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:55:46 -0700 From: "Geordie Calvert" Whoever is keeping track of this, I would like to help as well. What a wonderful ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. John V Harrell To: Sweendoger@aol.com Cc: Originaleek@webtv.net ; bdonaldson@callisma.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath I'm in. Sweendoger@aol.com wrote: > Let me know how I can contribute. > In a message dated 4/13/2003 4:25:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Originaleek@webtv.net writes: >> Subj: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath >> Date: 4/13/2003 4:25:58 AM Pacific Standard Time >> From: Originaleek@webtv.net >> To: bdonaldson@callisma.com >> CC: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >> Sent from the Internet >> I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our thoughts and prayers. >> This group has flooded Rick with our healing power of cardboard >> campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do for Roberta? This >> has >> got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has obviously been a >> trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my father, she >> greatly >> appreciated things like an occasional cleaning service, meals >> brought >> in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the ingenuity in this >> group >> we could find out what she really needs and help her out. I am >> prepared >> to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to the Roberta >> Redpath >> Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? >> We keep what we give away! >> EEK > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Redpath To: Lynn Miller , Originaleek@webtv.net From: Terry Dietrick Count me in! Hopefully, Bob will get a good reception and get some good ideas. Good Luck Bob. Who wants to treasurer this undertaking? --- Lynn Miller wrote: > What a fantastic idea. And comes from a man who > spends his professional > life helping others with disabilities of a different > sort, but still the > same process. Earl, you're thinking better than the > rest of us on this > one, good on ya! My proposal would be that since > Rick and the family > just returned from "spring training" that their > house can probably use a > "spring cleaning". I would guess there are services > that do that sort > of thing. Count me in on this project for one of > our "family". Lynn > Originaleek@webtv.net wrote: > >I know that Rick and Roberta remain in all our > thoughts and prayers. > >This group has flooded Rick with our healing power > of cardboard > >campaigns. I wonder if there is anything we can do > for Roberta? This has > >got to be a tremendous burden for her and she has > obviously been a > >trooper through out. When my mom was caring for my > father, she greatly > >appreciated things like an occasional cleaning > service, meals brought > >in, errand services and such. I'm sure with the > ingenuity in this group > >we could find out what she really needs and help > her out. I am prepared > >to put my money where my mouth is and contribute to > the Roberta Redpath > >Help for the Helper Fund. What say others? > > > > > > > >We keep what we give away! > > EEK > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: How on earth do these guys have good feedback? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2722856416&category=23836 Not that I respect the grades anyway, but the 52T Mantle is even MISLABELED. Gah, I don't know where to start on this turkey. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 18:11:31 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Roberta Redpath Help for Helper From: Originaleek@webtv.net Many of you have responded directly to me regarding your interest in helping out on this project and others have used Ramblings. To update everyone, we have 30 members on board thus far. Here is my understanding of how we will proceed: Bob Donaldson will be in contact with Roberta for reconnaissance purposes to determine how we can best be helpful. In an earlier post, I offered to treasure this project, and (assuming no one objects) will collect and distribute funds. I think the collective conscience of the group should determine the specifics of the project. So, we await word from Bob and in the interim donations can be sent to me at: 6151 Cold Spring Trail Grand Blanc, MI 48439 I will maintain records, via a spreadsheet, of donations and expenditures which should probably be turned over to the OBCAC upon project completion. *a foot-note here: as I was spellchecking this Rambling, the "suggested for Redpath was empathy. I think we are being guided! We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 18:55:03 -0400 (EDT) To: Brockhattox@cs.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roberta Redpath Help for Helper From: Originaleek@webtv.net From: Brockhattox@cs.com Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 18:35:37 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roberta Redpath Help for Helper To: OriginalEEK@webtv.net For a lot of small individual donations, I think it would be good. Why don't you ask OBCAC? ================= To: , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Roberta Redpath Help for Helper Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:55:41 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Yes, I think it makes sense to run this by the OBAC and probably let them organize it. I too can act as a collector, and do have paypal, but we should probably let the OBCAC decide what's best. Is there an official way to make this request of the OBCAC or could this email be considered a I did call Roberta today and left a message. I also called a local Merry Maids which were recommended by my mother (my sister gave her a gift certificate to them last year). They sell gift certificates in increments of $70, so that's one option. I'll let you know if I hear anything from Roberta. -----Original Message----- From: Originaleek@webtv.net [mailto:Originaleek@webtv.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:55 PM To: Brockhattox@cs.com Cc: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Roberta Redpath Help for Helper Brock brought up a good point regarding having someone collect donations that is set up with paypal, which I'm not. His subsequent email (attached) got me thinking that perhaps I stepped out of bounds in offering to treasure this project and perhaps in fact it should be turned over to the OBCAC? We keep what we give away! To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 02:07:21 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Canadian Sportscards From: "mikesportsfan" No promises but I hpoe to go to the semi-annual Toronto show April 26- 27 (little chance I will get there for Friday April 25). As usual if I go I am willing to "look" for Canadian issues people need, sicne most have little opportunity to get them. Please send me your lists if you would like to take advantage of this "shopping" service by April 21. I may be overstating it, but I think at least a few OBCers (Mark Talbot, Steve & Dan come to mind) have enjoyed Toronto finds. Hope to meet up with Carlos Alcazar again. Mike Rich ================= To: Subject: Redpath Project Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:52:16 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Just so everyone knows, your OBCAC is discussing this right now...we'll be able to provide more to you once we hear back from Bob Donaldson... ================= Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Do you feel ... lucky? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2722970251&category=642 It's the standard "don't know about baseball cards, but here's a '52 Mantle!" Is the listing sufficient to determine fakery? Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bobble-Mania Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 15:14:40 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- I don't know what it is about those bobble-heads, but they are definitely fun to have on your desk at work! For all you SoCal folks who want some bobble-heads for your shelf, we should plan some Lancaster Jethawks outings to coincide with either Jose Cruz, Jr Bobble-Head Night (July 12) or Ellis Valentine Bobble-Head Night (Aug 15). They also have the following nights for 500 random fans (the others are first 1000): Tuesday, May 20 - Barry Zito Tuesday, June 3 - Jason Giambi Tuesday, July 8 - Pedro Martinez Tuesday, August 12 - Darin Erstad Sunday, August 31 - Russ Ortiz I'll keep you posted... Geno Wagner Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 06:00:16 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Honored Guest From: "alcattle" I had the pleasure of spending half the day with Dr. Dave Honish. He gets out to the wrong coast every so often and we get together and do the OBC thing. I tried to make him feel at home. I drove around in rush hour traffic, made sure truck smeeled like a NYC cab and depanded a big tip. All he offered were the customary exchange of cardboard. Hit a couple sets with heavy damage on the 78 Mets team. We stopped at local favorite, U-trading for a while but missed the owner so did not have any luck on deals. I remember another place near-by so I drove over there and found a toy store with no cards. REally neat place though. The owner reminded me of another store in store so we went there next. Pete Brown runs Cooperstown Cards and with the deals and selection he has I might have to try to get others to go there and try to make him a OBC friendly store. I went though his 62 binder and his 77 box with some luck. They were having a sale so the OK prices were a real 50% off. Great price! I will let Dave describe his find but I know he dented the wallet and the wantlist. Not much left to do but eat dinner and Dave treated to a pretty good Thai meal. I do not get Thai food often so Dave ordered and good selection and we were both stuffed an hour later. More great chat and tales before I drove him a short tour and drove him but to the hotel. All in all a terrific day with one of the finset members of OBC. Hope you all have the chance to meet Dave Some day. Big Al in Seattle ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: Re: Do you feel ... lucky? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew [That last comment came from James, I'm not suddenly sending notes under different names to spot-check my flagging ego :) - Spike ] --- jmoleta30341 wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 12:53:34 -0000 > From: "jmoleta30341" > To: Matthew > Subject: Re: Do you feel ... lucky? > The card looks really good as far as authenticity. The listing throws > me, as does the location of the seller - "Right here in River City!" > Wasnt that where Prof Henry Hill ("The Music Man") tried to pull a > huge con? I think this guy is Sidd Finching us (for those who > remember Plimpton's April Fools' SI article several years ago)! > James > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Matthew wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&item=2722970251&category=642 > > > > It's the standard "don't know about baseball cards, but here's > a '52 Mantle!" Is the listing > > sufficient to determine fakery? > > -- > > Spike > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > > http://search.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Do you feel ... lucky? To: obc ramblings From: Matthew The card looks really good as far as authenticity. The listing throws me, as does the location of the seller - "Right here in River City!" Wasnt that where Prof Henry Hill ("The Music Man") tried to pull a huge con? I think this guy is Sidd Finching us (for those who remember Plimpton's April Fools' SI article several years ago)! > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Matthew wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? > ViewItem&item=2722970251&category=642 > > > > It's the standard "don't know about baseball cards, but here's > a '52 Mantle!" Is the listing > > sufficient to determine fakery? > > -- > > Spike > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > > http://search.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: 1960 Leaf - Which ones are Tigers? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:57:29 +0100 From: "Glenn Codere" Can anyone out there help me to identify the Tigers cards that exist in the 1960 Leaf set, so that I have some idea of what I'm chasing? I have 4 Tigers cards from the set - #3 Lary, #24 Berberet, #31 Bridges, and #48 Maxwell - all from the first series. I suspect that these are all the Tigers in this series. As far as I can see, there are 2 definites in the hi# series - #106 Bilko and #144 Bunning. I suspect that #97 Tom Morgan and #133 Groth may also be Tigers but need confirmation. Does this cover all the Tigers in this set, or are there any more? Glasgow, Scotland ================= Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 19:12:39 EDT Subject: Uncle Sam: in the laboratory and at the ballpark! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jrhatchjr@aol.com Here's a neat site I stumbled upon courtesy of NIST - the National Institute of Standards and Technology. I was never much of a scientist but there is some neat reading here about NIST's involvement in baseball like a study on the curveball and NIST's recommendation on what method to use for examining the "hot" bats of 1987. It also provides a cool link to an abbreviated online version of the Sporting News' book on ballparks. http://www.100.nist.gov/baseball.htm ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 01:29:30 EDT Subject: My wantlists To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Ok folks...somehow I have found some time to start putting all these inbounds away..BUT, even though the date says its current, it is FAR from it. So I ask that you guys hold back sending stuff until I get things sorted out on the web page and the job. The new job is going well so far, but it may take a little more time for paybacks. Needless to say, I'll miss Vegas yet again. (Mike you can send me some ribs though ). Oh I WILL be in AC this year, hell or high water (no height jokes here LOL). So just a blanket thanks again for all you guys who have sent cards and well wishes. I should have some wavier wire fodder soon... ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 03:22:52 EDT Subject: seattle baby! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com hey ho gang: i've been a bit quiet of late as i'm plugging away at work and at home on a number of projects but i did manage to get out to seattle this week on business. the weather was very, very accomodating (for once) and i had some killer king salmon as well wednesday nite. i had not been to seattle in 6 or 7 years so it was great to come back--it's one of my favorite cities anywhere and st. al can confirm i am "working" on coming out for good someday (as if my wife would move.....) yes, st. al. thursday afternoon we hooked up, exchanged the usual pleasantries and cards (al contributed 4 or 5, incl. a 66 high!) and made a beeline for U-Trade, a Seattle legend altho' from the looks of things being run into the ground through inattention by the owner. Had a line on a bunch of 66 rub offs but the sullen daughter (the owner was "out") could not make a deal on unpriced items. no deal, no problem; we bailed out to gasoline alley which was a vintage toy store with no cards but tres cool. i would compare it to a small museum--wow! still, no cards, no purchase but the staff there recommended brown's cooperstown and there we encountered a strange and wonderful sight: all cards from the 60's on up at 50% off. al stocked up on some 62 green tints while i rummaged through a few boxes and books in this very neatly appointed shop. i ended up buying a 63 fleer yaz and adcock (having just missed the mays and clemente cards-ouch!) some mid 60's cards, although sadly not the three 67's i still need, and some topps inserts: most notably 8 1969 decals which were priced pretty good even before the 50% discount. plus the shop had a complete run of beckett guides so i perused a couple early ones i don't have as well. we chowed on Thai after and i was wiped and went back to the hotel after--a great visit with al in a great city, yesiree. ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 03:30:38 EDT Subject: two things To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com ok, first off, ehere is a link to a cool card being auctioned. not crazy rare but not seen too often, an E 121 cobb: http://www.19thcenturyonly.org/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=829 second, i am trying to finish up my article (i.e. "mess") on 1967 topps high numbers, which has morphed into a treatise on topps uncut sheets and about a zillion other things. i am trying to suss out the 67 highs and if you have a 1967 7th series checklist marked up "back in the day" by the original owner and needing about 25 or less cards to finish, would really appreciate a list of what's left to go or a front and back scan. i am 90% done with this puppy and am going to see if scd wants to print it and other than subscribing to the PSA Population report for three months (don't ask) this may be the best way to ID short if scd rejects it, i'll post it on the obc website soon. ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Welcome to the bitter cold of Fenway To: obc ramblings From: Matthew The last two days were a lesson in contrasts. I went to the Wednesday and Thursday Red Sox / Devil Rays games, Wed with a starting temp of 65 and Thu at 33. 33 degrees! In mid-April! As cold as the weather was, Pedro was fortunately as hot, shutting out the Rays on two hits over seven innings. Wednesday's game saw the first home runs hit into the Monster seats. Rey Ordonez secured his place in history by knocking one into the Coke bottle support structure. The ball rattled off a couple of poles and bounced back onto the field, so it wasn't the first to STAY in the monster seats. A fan even threw down a surrogate "throw back" ball, in case there was any question. Manny Ramirez hit a rope into the second row of monster seats in the third and Nomar followed it with shot over the seats (no more netting!) in the fifth. Thursday night, Kevin Millar was the only one to reach the seats. Here's a picture of the three rows of monster seats, for those who are curious: http://www.angelfire.com/film/obc_spike/images/monster.JPG There hasn't been a whole lot of banter (good or bad) about them recently, but I'm still not crazy about them. As a recent transplant, though, I figure I can't yell too loudly. I've got a bunch of pictures from the game last night, I'll post a note when they're ready for Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Large 52B starter set on eBay (with glue on back) To: obc ramblings From: Matthew http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2723393876&category=636 117 cards, includes Mantle, Berra, and a bunch of other stars, all "rescued" from a scrapbook. $200 starting bid. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Out of town Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 11:39:31 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- I'm heading to Abilene, Texas for a week, so if you send a '52 Mantle and I don't thank you right away, be patient... Does anybody live near Abilene (I won't have a car)? Take Care, Geno Geno Wagner Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ================= Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:19:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Welcome to the bitter cold of Fenway To: Matthew , obc ramblings From: hoot-owl@comcast.net Thanks for the picture of the Monster seats. I lived just outside of Boston for three years in the late eighties and went to my fair share of games. I think I sat just about everywhere--with the exception of the 600 club (or whatever the enclosed space behind home plate was called). I think my favorite seats were the right field roof boxes.--still could only buy two-3.2 beers at a time but not nearly the crowd as in the lower deck. two Fenway stories: Game 1- had two first row seats immediately adjacent to the opposing team's bullpen. Mid-game a rat came out of the field drain right in front of us. The rodent created quite a stir as it ran along the warning track before it took off across the field eventually into the Sox dugout. A few of the grounds crew chased after the rat with buckets--while all of the Sox players ran out on the field. I think all 37,000 fans were chanting RAT, RAT, RAT-- Game 2--a birthday party with about 15 of us out in the bleachers for an Indians/Sox game. Mid game, a torrential downpour hits the Fens. All of us run under the stadium--before you know it water is cascading down the staircase like a waterfall. Of course, all of the drains are plugged. Ten minutes later all of us are standing in ankle deep filth. Can you imagine something like this at one of the newer parks. I should also mention I met my wife at Copperfields outside of Fenway prior to a game during Labor Day weekend. A shouldn't miss experience. Peter Mead ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew" To: "obc ramblings" Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Welcome to the bitter cold of Fenway > The last two days were a lesson in contrasts. I went to the Wednesday and Thursday Red Sox / Devil > Rays games, Wed with a starting temp of 65 and Thu at 33. 33 degrees! In mid-April! As cold as the > weather was, Pedro was fortunately as hot, shutting out the Rays on two hits over seven innings. > Wednesday's game saw the first home runs hit into the Monster seats. Rey Ordonez secured his place > in history by knocking one into the Coke bottle support structure. The ball rattled off a couple > of poles and bounced back onto the field, so it wasn't the first to STAY in the monster seats. A > fan even threw down a surrogate "throw back" ball, in case there was any question. Manny Ramirez > hit a rope into the second row of monster seats in the third and Nomar followed it with shot over > the seats (no more netting!) in the fifth. Thursday night, Kevin Millar was the only one to reach > the seats. > Here's a picture of the three rows of monster seats, for those who are > http://www.angelfire.com/film/obc_spike/images/monster.JPG > There hasn't been a whole lot of banter (good or bad) about them recently, but I'm still not crazy > about them. As a recent transplant, though, I figure I can't yell too > I've got a bunch of pictures from the game last night, I'll post a note when they're ready for > viewing. > -- > Spike > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo > http://search.yahoo.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: T205 Wagner Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 23:01:16 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" Question: In my catalogues, I see one Wagner, a T205 'Heinie Wagner'. But in a private auction today, there was a Charles Wagner. Are these the same card? Thanks. ================= To: "Steve Rittenberg" , "Ramblings" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Wagner Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 20:24:41 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" Yes they are, and it is a very tough one to find for whatever reason... > [Original Message] > From: Steve Rittenberg > To: Ramblings > Date: 4/19/2003 7:02:14 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Wagner > Question: In my catalogues, I see one Wagner, a T205 'Heinie Wagner'. > in a private auction today, there was a Charles Wagner. Are these the > card? Thanks. > Steve > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 23:42:11 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Wagner To: srittenberg66@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Heinie Wagner was born Charles F. Wagner. Honus was born John Peter Wagner. Anybody have any extra John Wagner T206's? - Doug ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:16:11 EDT Subject: Test To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: friar4@aol.com Test - please ignore ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 14:33:20 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] T205 Wagner To: srittenberg66@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Yes, same card...his name is Charles "Henie" Wagner...in fact, the back of the T205 card does say Charles. ================= Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:57:38 EDT Subject: Happy Holiday! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Happy Holiday OBC! I just wanted to take a moment to wish all of you good health and a Happy I spent the day with my family, my daughter surprised us and flew in from Texas for the Easter week and the visit has been great! Even though she lives in Houston now and attends Astros games she still rooted for the Giants when they played the Astros earlier this week at a game we attended in San Francisco. And, of course, the Giants won! Now, to get a little friendly banter started I would like to put you all on notice (especially my friends that are Southern California fans) that the Northern California baseball teams will beat all comers! Dem Bums, the Angels and all others will not have a chance against the Gaints and A's! You heard it here first! I am leaving after this to attend the A's Vs Rangers game, I am anticipating a sweep! I look forward to hearing from all of you especially with predictions for the World Series! My very early prediction is Giants Vs A's with the Giants winning it all! Another Baseball Quote: "The man who has the infinite capacity to take a bad situation and make it immediately worse." ------Branch Rickey on Leo Durocher ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 01:29:22 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Slurpee or other Sports cups From: "mikesportsfan" I have checklists for the 1972 & 1973 Slurpee cups and I am closing in on the BB sets. I have a number of other cups, some from 7/11, some may have been distributed by someone else (Amoco?) in the late 70s and early 80s. Does anyone have any info on these other sets? How about some to swap? Also, looking for a checklist for the Burger King FB cups issued around 1972. Still need a lot of the 1972 Slurpee FB & BSKB cups. Mike Rich ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:18:30 EDT Subject: Some things not working To: OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com For some reason the link to my wantlist from the directory is not working. If any of you need to see it, you can reach it by using the following URL. I hope this will be corrected soon. http://207.201.165.245/wantlists/friar.htm As some of you know, I was also having great difficulty receiving OBC group mail yesterday. It seems to be correcting itself slowly (I received two messages yesterday); but that is another area of concern. I hope that will also get solved. In the meantime, if you need to reach me, you can always do so at friar4@aol.com. ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 07:21:22 EDT Subject: While on the subject To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com I don't normally publish my wantlist; but, since the link seems to be down,I guess that's a good excuse: Only 2 to go on '73 Topps! Bob Corvello To contact Bob send email to friar4@aol.com HAVE LISTS Updated on 04/19/03 HAVE LISTS (My need lists start about half way down the page)On these cards, I have far too few to create wantlists. What you see here are my have lists. I would love to add to these collections in any way I can. Condition is not Also, I would love any cards from old collections not listed here. You will find my WANT LISTS below the HAVE LISTS and separated by a row of asterisks. 1909-1911 T-206 I have: 8/15/17/19/47/48/53/58/135/141/157/178/187/ 1908-1910 American Caramel E-91C I have: Chech/Willis 1911 T-205 I have: 3/23 1912 T-207 I have: 8/18/24/45/51/64/65/70/161 1919 W-514 I have: 90 1920 W-515 I have: 17 1920 W-520 I have: 12 1921 W-516 I have: 22 1921 W-519 I have: Schange 1922 E-122 I have: Byron Harris 1927 York Caramel E210 Ihave: 22 1933 Goudey I have: 5/16/17/18/21/24/27/28/30/32/38/42/45/ 1934 Goudey I have: 14/25/31/38/47/49/64/67/69 1935 Goudey I have: 8D/8G/9I 1936 Goudey I have: 4 1936 Batter Up I have: 56/101/116/163/186 1939 Playball I have: 2/4/12/24/28/29/31/34/40/44/47/52/57/65/67/73/ 1940 Playball I have: 12/13/14/15/17/18/19/20/22/23/24/32/43/51/52/53/54/57/58/59/61/70/ 1941 Playball I have: 1/5/11/12/17/21/23/44/47/66 1941 Double Play I have: 5/6/19/20/43/44/71/72/73/74/95 1947 Homogenized Bond I have: 10/21/44 1948 Bowman I have: 1/2/5/16/22/25/26/27/28/31/33/35/37/44/48 1948-1949 Leaf I have: 29/38/56/59/72/73/82/111/128/159 1949 Bowman I have: 1949 Eureka Stamps I have: 78/86/89/95 1950 Bowman I have: 1951 Bowman I have: 1952 Bowman I have: 1953 Bowman (Color) I have: 1953 Bowman (B & W) I have: 4/6/9/10/11/13/14/15/16/19/22/24/29/32/52/53/54/64 1953 Johnston Cookies I have: 23 1952 Red Man I have: 4A/6N/10A/11AN/15N/17A/19A/21A/25N 1953 Red Man I have: 9N/13A/16N/19A/20N/21N/23N 1954 Red Man I have: 1A/7A/12A/14N/22A 1955 Red Man I have: 20A 1961 Post I have: 1962 Post I have: 1963 Post I have: 12/20/31/35/40/42/46/57/63/66/72/74/77/85/88/91/93/ 1970 Fleer Laughlin World Series I have: 1/2/5/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15/16/17/18/19/20/21/ 1971 Fleer Laughlin World Series I have: 1/12/13/14/20/28/39/40/41/50/56/57/58/60/61/65/69 1971 Topps Super I have: 23/29/49/57 1975 Fleer Laughlin Pioneers of Baseball I have: 25-27 WANT LISTS These, of course, are my more traditional wantlists. Condition, however, is still not an important consideration. I will accept and appreciate any baseball card. 1951 Topps Redbacks I need: 1/2/4/6/8/10/14//20/22/24/30/31/33/34/43/46/47 1951 Topps Bluebacks I need: 1/2/6/7/8/10/11/12/14/20/21/23-27/29/33/35-41/43/44/46/48/49/50 1952 Topps I need: 148/149/152/155/156/158/159/162/163/166/ 168/170-176/178-179/ 268/269/272-273/275-277/279-284/286-299/301-304/306-309/311 and above. 1953 Topps I need: 1/8/30/37/41/61/66/72/76/82/86/87/114/ 255/256/257/258/259/262/263/265/266/270/272/273/276/ 280 1954 Topps I need: 70/94/128/132/197 1954 Bowman I need: 1955 Bowman I need: 9/10/17/37/65/85/139/179/184/201/202/ 1955 Topps I need: 22/28/47/65/123/164/166/167/175/186/187/198/203 1956 Topps I need: 5/10/135/139/181/184/236/251/332/CL2/CL3 1957 Topps I need: 95/265/272/275/284/286/293/299/302/ 1958 Topps (On these cards only I need vg or better) I need: # 52 1959 Topps I need: Done 1959 Fleer Ted Williams set I need: 63/68 (Thanks to Steve Rittenberg, I now have the counterfeit version of this card) 1960 Topps I need: 291/343/350/377/420/436/445/488/489/493/494/510/ 1960 Leaf I need: 1960 Fleer I need: 3/7/16/18-19/21-26/28/34/36/38/ 1961 Fleer I need: 5/14/31/75/82/83/87/89-101/103-109/111-115/117-120/ 1961 Topps I need: 2/44/150/300/307/308/316/371/388/ 1961 Golden Press I need: Set completed thanks to Brock Hattox 1962 Topps I need: 1/5/10/18/24/70/200/208/234/320/360/394/ 1963 Topps I need: 3/4/9/18/25/120/138/155/173/200/210/216/247/ 1963 Fleer I need: 1/3-6/8-16/21-28/30-36/39-43/45-52/55-63/65-67 1964 Topps I need: 4/8/21/50/55/98/125/146/200/ 1965 Topps I need: 1966 Topps I need: 215/217/219/221/223/254/310/453/458/462/ 1967 Topps I need: 45/146/150/200/215/234/250/400/458/467/475/ 1968 Topps I need: 80/110/145/150/152/177/256/280/ 1968 Topps Game Cards I need: 2/29/30/31 1969 Topps I need: 1970 Topps I need: 189/462/500/537/611/634/654/660/670/699/702/712/716 1971 Topps I need: 400/525/546/570/600/625/630/648-650/661/664/665/677/688/ 1972 Topps I need: 474/530/559/595/604/659/660/ 1973 Topps I need: 601/615 ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Several 5-card W572 lots on eBay To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Seller "colorado-mountain-sports" has a bunch of poor 5-card W572 lots right now, all starting at $.99 + $2.50 postage. Example lot below. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2724076500&category=31719 Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Robert Morris Show To: OBC Ramblings From: Terry Dietrick The semi annual sports card show is at Robert Morris University this weekend. It's a nice show. Is anybody planning on going? I'm going down Saturday morning. Will probably go to the Pirates/Dodgers game that night! Anyone interested in going to PNC Park? LMK, I'll see if we can get some good tickets. Will need to know how many. Terry Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Robert Morris Show Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:39:53 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" Is anyone interested in receiving lots of cards in exchange for a place to crash? Alternately, can anyone recommend a cheap but safe motel in the area? ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Dietrick To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Robert Morris Show The semi annual sports card show is at Robert Morris University this weekend. It's a nice show. Is anybody planning on going? I'm going down Saturday morning. Will probably go to the Pirates/Dodgers game that night! Anyone interested in going to PNC Park? LMK, I'll see if we can get some good tickets. Will need to know how many. Terry ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Robert Morris Show Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 22:50:53 +0100 From: "Glenn Codere" The commute might take a while, but you're welcome to stay at my place. Glasgow, Scotland -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rittenberg [mailto:srittenberg66@earthlink.net] Sent: 21 April 2003 22:40 To: OBC Ramblings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Robert Morris Show Is anyone interested in receiving lots of cards in exchange for a place to crash? Alternately, can anyone recommend a cheap but safe motel in the ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Dietrick To: OBC Ramblings Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Robert Morris Show The semi annual sports card show is at Robert Morris University this weekend. It's a nice show. Is anybody planning on going? I'm going down Saturday morning. Will probably go to the Pirates/Dodgers game that night! Anyone interested in going to PNC Park? LMK, I'll see if we can get some good tickets. Will need to know how many. Terry Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:59:08 EDT Subject: Test To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com, From: friar4@aol.com ================= Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:33:21 EDT Subject: Test 2.5 To: OBC-National@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, From: friar4@aol.com Test 2.5 ================= Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:08:38 EDT Subject: Test 4 To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com Test 4 I want to apologize for all this garbage I am mailing. As some of you know, my group e-mail has not worked correctly for several days now. I am still trying to figure out what is wrong. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: question I can't answer Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 16:37:16 -0400 From: "John Collins" Can anybody help with this question? I know they are the APBA cards, but don't know what years they were issued, etc. I have a really old set of baseball cards. The thing is that their pictureless only stats. On the front in big bold letters is APBA. all yeh by the way the cards are of the Brooklyn Dodgers. I would just like some info and maybe what their worth? OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ================= Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 06:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Pittsburgh Card Show Times To: OBC Ramblings From: Terry Dietrick For anybody thinking about going to the Robert Morris Sports Card Show- the hours are Friday 4-9 PM, Saturday 9-7 and Sunday 10-5. The cost is $4.00 per day, $9.00 for 3 day pass. There will be approx. 200 dealers there and quite a few autograph signers. I'm going down Saturday late morning, then I hope we can get a few OBC'ers to take in the Pirate/Dodger game that night. If you let me know that you are going I will take care of reserving our seats. Maybe we can even make time for a little OBC swapfest? This show should be well worth the trip(Ed, Ken, Steve, Neal, Rob, Al, Matt, Joe(s), Peter, John(s), Bob, Dan, Fug, Bill, Kent, Jeff, Richard, Mac and anyone else that feels the need for cardboard and OBC fellowship and can find their way to the Steel City). Hope you can make it. LMK about the baseball game. Terry Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Rick Redpath Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:44:22 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" A few weeks ago I forwarded an email from Rick Redpath's wife Roberta (a copy is attached below). A number of people have suggested doing something for Roberta which I think is a great idea. I've found a cleaning service (Merry Maids) and a restaurant that specializes in take out food (Boston Market) both local to the Redpath's and think a gift certificate to one or both (depending on the amount of money raised) would be a good idea. To that end I will be collecting donations. You may send money directly to me at; Bob Donaldson 291 South Great Road, Lincoln, MA 01773 or through paypal at; bdonaldson@callisma.com. At the end of a few weeks I will gather all donations and purchase the gift certificates for the Redpaths. To all of our friends: Things with Rick have been quite variable during the last many weeks. The high point was a trip to Florida in early march where Rick was able to see three spring training games in Fort Myers. The lows have come since then with the news that his tumor has continued to grow. That was detected along with a diagnosis of hydrocephalus (excess spinal fluid in his brain), which was treated with the insertion of a shunt. The combination of the two had caused him to loose his ability to walk, along with a great deal of cognitive processing. He is recovering from the surgery slowly, and it is still not clear how many of his recent symptoms will be corrected by the shunt. He is able to walk with assistance, and will probably go home tomorrow. I wish I could say he was in his usual good spirits. He seems pretty flat right now, I am hoping to see an improvement tomorrow. It is not clear what we will do next. We will see his surgeon and oncologist next Friday for a follow-up, and make some decisions then. We continue to appreciate all of the positive energy and prayers that you can send our way. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: need help identifying stamp Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 17:19:28 +0000 From: mzentko@worldnet.att.net please help me identify what year/set these are from..see attached picture.. thank you...mark ================= Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 10:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] need help identifying stamp To: mzentko@worldnet.att.net, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Matthew Heilenman I could be wrong , but I believe what you have is a 1969 Major League Baseball Photo stamp. They were put out by the MLBPA ( I don't know who maufatured them for the MLBPA). 18 Different sheets issued with 12 stamps per sheet. individual stamps measure 2" by 3 1/4" . Davalillo is #86 which came on A.L. Sheet #8 along with Brinkman, Peters, Foy, Carew, Hunter, Bell , Johnson, Harrelson, Horton, Kaline and Hamilton. Hope this helps. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:49:32 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: need help identifying stamp From: "David Skoglund" That would make sense given the lack of any team logo or name. I awlays read that MLB never this set, thus no logos could be used. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Heilenman wrote: > Mark, > I could be wrong , but I believe what you have is a > 1969 Major League Baseball Photo stamp. They were put > out by the MLBPA ( I don't know who maufatured them ================= Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:11:31 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Last call re: Canadian sportscards From: "mikesportsfan" It is already passed my imposed deadline for E-mailing me wantlists of Canadian sportscard wants for me to take to Toronto this weekend. Unfortunately Earl and Ron, who joined me in November and Ben who was hoping to make it from Montreal will be unable to make the Toronto show this weekend. Hopefully Carlos will be there and I will get to hook up with at least 1 OBCer. If you have overlooked E-mailing your lists DO SO IMMEDIATELY!!!! I will try and find time to print them up before I go. I only have been contacted by a few OBCers this time. Also, as my lists get shorter, especially for OPC BB & HCKY, I am less likely to buy a huge lot allowing me to send out the dupes after checking lists when I get back. By E-mailing me lists of sets you may want starters on, I can shop for big lots at discount prices. This offer is made, since I figure most OBCers do not get access to Canadian issues too often and I can be their eyes. Wish me luck in getting cards and not SARs in Toronto. Mike Rich ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: FW: News about Rick Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:30:09 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Here's the latest from Roberta Redpath. -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:22 AM To: bdonaldson@callisma.com Subject: RE: News about Rick To Bob, and all of Ricks OBC friends, I'm sorry to say that the last few weeks have been quite difficult, and Rick's condition is deteriorating rapidly. The surgery was not able to restore any of his lost functioning, and he is now home, sleeping most of the time, confined to bed, but mostly pain free. We are managing his symptoms with the help of hospice, and are doing all that we can to keep him comfortable. I know that you have all remained in his thoughts, even through these difficult times. All of your friendships have enriched his life, and I thank you all again for that. Roberta Redpath >From: "Bob Donaldson" >Reply-To: >To: "Roberta Redpath" >Subject: RE: News about Rick >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:31:41 -0400 >Sorry to hear about Rick's recent troubles, I will continue to keep him in >my prayers. Please let me know if there is anything I can do. >-----Original Message----- >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] >Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:25 PM >To: alcattle@earthlink.net; mrbill@jsi.com; nthomas@pol.net; >joel@jsi.com; tricia.bombara@verizon.net; redpath51@home.com; >grains@dccnet.com; jxm5@cdc.gov; bdonaldson@callisma.com; >defonet@attbi.com; lynnm@piol.net; rpelletier@jsi.com; >chel.harr@verizon.net; rowens@jsi.com; simondonovan@mindspring.com; >Subject: News about Rick >To all of our friends: >Things with Rick have been quite variable during the last many weeks. The >high point was a trip to Florida in early march where Rick was able to see >three spring training games in Fort Myers. The lows have come since then >with the news that his tumor has continued to grow. That was detected >with a diagnosis of hydrocephalus (excess spinal fluid in his brain), which >was treated with the insertion of a shunt. The combination of the two had >caused him to loose his ability to walk, along with a great deal of >cognitive processing. He is recovering from the surgery slowly, and it is >still not clear how many of his recent symptoms will be corrected by the >shunt. He is able to walk with assistance, and will probably go home >tomorrow. I wish I could say he was in his usual good spirits. He seems >pretty flat right now, I am hoping to see an improvement tomorrow. >It is not clear what we will do next. We will see his surgeon and >oncologist next Friday for a follow-up, and make some decisions then. We >continue to appreciate all of the positive energy and prayers that you can >send our way. >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#2724138347: MANTLE/MARTIN/ASHBURN/ROBINSON 1957 BOX CARDS Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 11:50:03 PDT From: boreed@hotmail.com Does anybody know what these things are? Title of item: MANTLE/MARTIN/ASHBURN/ROBINSON 1957 BOX CARDS Starts: Apr-20-03 20:15:08 PDT Ends: Apr-27-03 20:15:08 PDT Price: Currently $20.50 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2724138347 Item Description: titledata { font-family: verdana, sans-serif; font-weight : bold; description { font-family: verdana, sans-serif; background-color : #AFB8DF; link { font-family: verdana, sans-serif; font-size:12px; underline; HR { color: #ffffff; } MANTLE/MARTIN/ASHBURN/ROBINSON 1957 BOX CARDS Click image to view larger version Click image to view larger version MICKEY MANTLE/BILLY MARTIN/RICHIE ASHBURN/FRANK ROBINSON OLD CARDS CUT OFF SOME KIND OF BOXES.THE CARDS ARE IN OK SHAPE,NO BENDS OR CREASES.I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY CAME FROM,THEY WERE IN A COLLECTION I BOUGHT SOMETIME AGO.BY THE FEEL OF THE BACK,KINK OF SLICK AND GREASEY FEEL,YOU CAN TELL THEY CAME FROM SOME KIND OF FOOD BOX.THE CARDS SAY 1957 T.C.G. UNDER THE PLAYERS NAME,I REALLY DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHEN THEY WERE MADE OR NOT.THE CARDS ARE REGULAR CARD SIZE.ANY HELP ON WHAT THESE ARE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.BUYER PAYS $2.00 SHIPPING. SHIPPING PRICE IS FOR MAINLAND UNITED STATES.INSURANCE AND TRACKING IS INCLUDED ON ALL ITEMS SHIPPED BY UPS.WILL SHIP OUTSIDE MAINLAND US,EMAIL FOR SHIPPING CHARGES.INSURANCE IS EXTRA IF YOU WANT IT ON ITEMS SHIPPED BY THE POST OFFICE.NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST OR DAMAGED ITEMS WITHOUT INSURANCE.TENNESSEE RESIDENTS ADD 9 3/4% SALES TAX.PAYMENT EXPECTED WITHIN 10 DAYS OR ITEM WILL BE RELISTED AND A NON PAYING BIDDER ALERT WILL BE FILED WITH EBAY.PLEASE,IF YOU CAN'T PAY,PLEASE DON'T BID. I accept the following forms of payment: PayPalDirect Offline Credit Card Payment: Visa/Master Card, DiscoverMoney Order CASH   Over 100,000 sellers accelerate their sales with Vendio. FREE TRIAL! 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I've got the baseball stuff down pretty well, but I'm specifically looking for info about the rest of the Topps stuff, from football to basketball to hockey to non-sports stuff (Look 'n' See, Presidents, Freedom's War, Elvis, Hopalong Cassidy, etc.). I'm not finding much luck on google...most of the links point to sellers (and my own site as well). Take care, I am an avid collector of vintage baseball cards. To view my online wantlist, visit: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/wantlist.html Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Robert Morris Show/Pirate Game To: OBC Ramblings From: Terry Dietrick I will be getting my tickets Friday for Saturday nights Pirate/Dodger baseball game. If anyone else is interested, LMK and I'll reserve you a ticket. Is anyone planning on going to the show at Robert Morris? Hope to see some OBC hats there! Terry Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: '33 Goudey avail Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 21:56:38 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" after a recent buying spree :) I find myself with a bunch of dupes. As usual, these are well loved cards... but almost all of them are readable... some are trimmed, all are creased, some with writing.. you know the story. Let me know if you need 'em 1933 Goudey Reprints: Ruth 181,53 Jajoie 106, Gehrig 160 1933 Goudey Real cards: 3 15 16 24 27 30 33 37 45 50 59 77 90 131 132 136 139 151 156 166 170 213 Go OBC! ================= Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 22:55:33 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Funny eBay postage story From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, I recently won an item from an eBay seller, whom I will not name. The item was for $3 and postage was $2. What I found amusing is that he sent the item(properly packaged, to be fair), in a small envelope, but apparently didn't put enough postage on it! He put one stamp on it and the USPS sent it back to him postage due, 13 cents! I am glad that my $2 for postage was used so prudently ... (smile) ================= Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 02:06:47 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Introduction From: digdugdig@webtv.net Hi OBC family, I guess it's time to introduce myself to those I have not dealt with as of yet...but am aiming to...in one way, shape, or form!! After a short stint in the OBC instructional league, I received my call to the "bigs" about a week ago. Although not know for my power, I have been known to come up with a big hit now and then. I suppose it's my turn to stand on top of the lunch room table, sing my alma mater fight song, have you laugh, boo, and hiss me but that ain't gonna happen 'cause one, I don't remember the song and two, (unless you're looking over my shoulder watching me type this e-mail)..you're not gonna hear me anyway!!! All kidding aside (????)...I'm originally from New England..all but about 5 years...school years in CT and about 20 in VT. Things fell into place and made the move west where I have now been since June of '98...a great move...albeit...really miss the autumn colors of Vermont (and the cheddar cheese!!) Until lately, my card collecting was mainly HOFers and favorites in higher grade...pretty dormant for a few years until someone (won't mention who!!) rekindled the spirit with a gift partial set of 64T's! (my 1st set as a youngun)...then the 65's... then the........ Ohhhh....what's next!! Love the older stuff...who doesn't!!! but the 60's bring back alotta the childhood memories...not just the stars...the Twins Jimmy Hall...Tigers' Jim Northrup (grand slams??)...Dick McAullife (great batting stance!!). Ohhh....'nuff for now I guess...talk about RAMBLINGS!!! Mucho thanks OBC!!! ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Baseball Brawls Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:22:37 -0400 From: "Bob Reed" Check out the following link for some good reading on some baseball brawls. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/basebrawl.html I would have liked to see the Nolan Ryan/Robin Ventura one on there. Any other good ones people remember? Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ================= Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:11:50 EDT Subject: Shaking hands To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com I think I wrote about this before but someone reminded me of it again today. I don't really do autographs. Not that I don't have any...several have been given to me over the years but I have never paid for an autograph and have not begged for one in well over two decades. Why? Something my grandfather once said to me about 15 years ago. He had just met Dimaggio at a function at Hollywood Park (where my grandfather worked for many years). He said he got to the shake his hand. I asked why was that so cool for my grandfather. My grandfather then said that he shook more than just Dimaggio's hand. He had shaken Mantles, Ruths, Banks, and many more through extension. He said "It was an honor to shake the hand that shook the hand of Babe Ruth." So, I have many pictures of me shaking hands with ex and current players but will always remember shaking hands more. ================= Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:24:54 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Availables - 1974 Fleer Pioneers of Baseball From: "David Skoglund" I have some dupes that need new homes: #9 - Ned Hanlon (x2) #10 - Ed Delahanty #12 - Amos Rusie #19 - Cy Young #21 - John Glasscock #27 - Buck Herzog (x2) ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Baseball Brawls Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:31:41 -0600 From: "Todd Knowles" The Ryan/Ventura episode was more of a Noogiefest courtesy of the Ryan Express than it was a brawl. :) > Check out the following link for some good reading on some baseball > http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/basebrawl.html > I would have liked to see the Nolan Ryan/Robin Ventura one on there. > other good ones people remember? > -Bob ================= Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:41:32 EDT Subject: Defunct team .com domains available. To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: t206guy@aol.com Greetings gang I was noticing that all the major sports teams had .coms that matched their names. (I.E., Detriottigers.com) As a mini research project (and just for fun) I checked out the .com registrations for the names of all the defunct MLB teams and came across a list of defunct team names that are available as domain names. All of domain names are available in their .com form (In other words, omit the spaces and add .com to the end) and can be registered at any of about a billion domain registration sites for under $10. If you have an emotional attachment to any of these teams you might consider picking up the domain just for fun and adding it to part of your collection. :) I figure if they belong anywhere, they belong in the OBC. Here they are: Boston Pilgrims Chicago White Stockings Chicago Colts Chicago Orphans Cincinnati Red Stockings Cleveland Spiders Cleveland Naps Houston Colt 45's Kansas City Athletics Brooklyn Trolleydodgers Brooklyn Bridegrooms Brooklyn Superbas New York Highlanders Pittsburgh Innocents Just a bit of fun. Let me know if anyone registers one. ================= Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 04:20:07 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Toronto Show Report - Day 1 From: "mikesportsfan" Live from the North American SARS capital where I am enbedded with the dealers at the semi-annual Toronto Card Expo. Whether it is SARS, the economy, the change in show dates (usually in May, not April) or what the show appears to be deader than usual, although teh dealers I spoke to felt like they were having a good to excellent first day. "Remember we are not here for just 1 day. We are here for the long haul. We will help those whose parents/mothers threw out their baseball cards, rebuild their collections. We want them to be in charge of their own collections in the future, but we are here to help them now. We will not retreatr at the first sign of problems". That is a relief, as I thought I might be the only 1 up here. No masks were seen at the show, and I left my surgical gloves at home (seriously gave some thought to bringing some along for protection). There were dealer cancellations and the most disappointing of all, Canada Post and their autograph guests, Mike Boissy, Serge Savard and Dennis Potvin all cancelled. This is/was a major draw for the show, and I was even suppose to get some of the auto's for other members of the OBC core who are on assingment elsewhere. A few dealers who I usually get stuff from, I have not seen yet, and I fear may be lost. MIA at least. There is noticible reduction in the number of dealers, as the continuos barrage of shows, looks to have reduced their numbers and their capabilities to hit my lists. I have been spotted by a few dealers who have enticed me to return to their station by promising to have stuff for me tomorrow and Sunday. We shall see. Although, I found the first day somewhat disappointing, I did manage to spend a considerable amount of money, by finishing my 1954-55 Parkhurst hockey set (#65 Bower high book $600, OBC condition $55 Canadian), mgetting a bunch of Hockey matchbooks for that fledgling set, knocking off a chunk of my 1968 Shirriff Hockey coin list, plus a few 53 Topps high numbers and some 52 Topps common upgrades. Of course other items were sprinkled in. Picked up some rough, but I consider rare, 1950s Shredded Wheat CFL and 3 hits to my 1962 POST CFL set. Not 1 hit to my OPC BB list. Only 1 to Steve's OPC BB list so far. Actually only bought 4 OPC BB so far, so no ones lists took beatings - yet. Found 1 guy who had some 1971 OPC BB high and semi-high numbers. Book is $6.50 for semis and $12-18 for highs. Most of the stack were Tiptons in my opinion. I thought 10% of book for the stack would be overly generous to the point I thought I might not even do that. He wanted $4 per card for the stack. At 63 cards he was t $250 and I was at about $65 and I thought I was being generous. Needless to say we did not reach an agreement. I was finding some stuff I do not have, but would not pay the requested prices. Turned down 1 of the last 4 Coke hockey caps I need for $5. I thought $3 was fair, especially in the shape it was in. Not having other OBCers around for help in beating down dealres and inspiration is also disappointing. Hope to see Carlos tomorrow. Mike Rich ================= Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:24:01 EDT Subject: 2003 National To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com Hey gang: Haven't heard too much about the National yet from you guys. I will definitely be there friday night and saturday all day. I have the family with me and they will join me friday evening at the festivities so my major obc style action will be on saturday. We are staying at the Trump Marina casino and if you are looking to stay in Atlantic City, I would book soon--I had a lot of trouble finding a casino that had open rooms for the Friday night. In fact, even some of the hotels associated with the National do not have rooms for all nights available. Don't wait to book! I am psyched for this event- I went to the national in parsippany about 20 years ago for a half hour with a dealer i worked for at the time with zero cash so other than that this is my first one. I am basically not spending any cash on cards until then so i have a decent bankroll. ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Thursday at the 2003 National To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Bob Farrell Hello all, I plan to drive down from Rhode Island and spend the day (thursday the 24th) at the National. I will be driving back that night. If anybody along the way would like to ride with me I would appreciate the Is anybody planing to be at the show on the thursday ? If so would you like to meet up ? Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: FW: News about Rick Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:49:07 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Bad news I'm afraid. -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:01 AM To: bdonaldson@callisma.com Subject: RE: News about Rick It is with a combination of great sadness and relief that a write to tell you that Rick passed away late yesterday afternoon. It was an exceptionally uncomfortable day for him, and I am grateful to know that he is finally whole again, and at peace. We are still in the process of figuring out a plan for visitation hours in Needham, and a Memorial service in Winchester. My sister plans to update his website when we figure it all out. If there is anyone in OBC that would like to send something to be read at his memorial, please feel free to send them to raredpath@hotmail.com . In addition, I am trying to locate some exceptionally meaningful excerpts, short stories, blurbs etc. about baseball/life. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thank you Roberta Redpath >From: "Bob Donaldson" >Reply-To: >To: "Roberta Redpath" >Subject: RE: News about Rick >Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:10:35 -0400 >Yes, all of OBC knows. Everybody wants to know if there is anything we can >do. Please don't hesitate to ask if there is anything we could do to help >and remember that a number of OBCers live nearby. >thanks and God Bless! >-----Original Message----- >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:06 AM >To: bdonaldson@callisma.com >Subject: RE: News about Rick >You were the only one I updated about Rick's condition. He continues to >decline, and we are doing our best to manage his discomfort. Could you >please let the rest of the OBC group know. Thanks > >From: "Bob Donaldson" > >Reply-To: > >To: "Roberta Redpath" > >Subject: RE: News about Rick > >Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:28:49 -0400 > > > >Roberta, > > > >I'm sorry to hear the news. I know that everyone in OBC is keeping Rick > >and > >all the Redpaths in our thoughts and prayers. Please let me know if > >is anything I can do to help. Please keep in mind I'm just a short ride > >128 if there's anything I can do. > > > >thanks > > > >Bob > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:22 AM > >To: bdonaldson@callisma.com > >Subject: RE: News about Rick > > > > > >To Bob, and all of Ricks OBC friends, > > > >I'm sorry to say that the last few weeks have been quite difficult, and > >Rick's condition is deteriorating rapidly. The surgery was not able to > >restore any of his lost functioning, and he is now home, sleeping most of > >the time, confined to bed, but mostly pain free. We are managing his > >symptoms with the help of hospice, and are doing all that we can to keep > >him > >comfortable. I know that you have all remained in his thoughts, even > >through these difficult times. All of your friendships have enriched his > >life, and I thank you all again for that. > > > >Roberta Redpath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bob Donaldson" > > >Reply-To: > > >To: "Roberta Redpath" > > >Subject: RE: News about Rick > > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:31:41 -0400 > > > > > >Roberta, > > > > > >Sorry to hear about Rick's recent troubles, I will continue to keep him > >in > > >my prayers. Please let me know if there is anything I can do. > > > > > >Bob > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:25 PM > > >To: alcattle@earthlink.net; mrbill@jsi.com; nthomas@pol.net; > > >joel@jsi.com; tricia.bombara@verizon.net; redpath51@home.com; > > >grains@dccnet.com; jxm5@cdc.gov; bdonaldson@callisma.com; > > >defonet@attbi.com; lynnm@piol.net; rpelletier@jsi.com; > > >chel.harr@verizon.net; rowens@jsi.com; simondonovan@mindspring.com; > > >ellen_barnes@needham.K12.ma.us > > >Subject: News about Rick > > > > > > > > > > > >To all of our friends: > > > > > >Things with Rick have been quite variable during the last many weeks. > >The > > >high point was a trip to Florida in early march where Rick was able to > >see > > >three spring training games in Fort Myers. The lows have come since > > >with the news that his tumor has continued to grow. That was detected > > >along > > >with a diagnosis of hydrocephalus (excess spinal fluid in his brain), > >which > > >was treated with the insertion of a shunt. The combination of the two > >had > > >caused him to loose his ability to walk, along with a great deal of > > >cognitive processing. He is recovering from the surgery slowly, and it > >is > > >still not clear how many of his recent symptoms will be corrected by > > >shunt. He is able to walk with assistance, and will probably go home > > >tomorrow. I wish I could say he was in his usual good spirits. He > > >pretty flat right now, I am hoping to see an improvement tomorrow. > > > > > >It is not clear what we will do next. We will see his surgeon and > > >oncologist next Friday for a follow-up, and make some decisions then. > > >continue to appreciate all of the positive energy and prayers that you > >can > > >send our way. > > > > > > > > >Roberta > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: FW: News about Rick Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:51:34 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" I forwarded the following to Roberta and thought I'd share it with the The poem below was written by Grantland Rice when Babe Ruth passed away. Mr. Rice was also responsible for the following quote (which Yaz used in his induction day speech) "For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name, he marks - not that you won or lost - But how you played the game" Game Called. Across the field of play the dusk has come, the hour is late. The fight is done and lost or won, the player files out through the gate. The tumult dies, the cheer is hushed, the stands are bare, the park is still. But through the night there shines the light, home beyond the silent ill. Game Called. Where in the golden light the bugle rolled the reveille. The shadows creep where night falls deep, and taps has called the end of play. The game is done, the score is in, the final cheer and jeer have passed. But in the night, beyond the fight, the player finds his rest at last. Game Called. Upon the field of life the darkness gathers far and wide, the dream is done, the score is spun that stands forever in the guide. Nor victory, nor yet defeat is chalked against the players name. But down the roll, the final scroll, shows only how he played the game. -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:01 AM To: bdonaldson@callisma.com Subject: RE: News about Rick It is with a combination of great sadness and relief that a write to tell you that Rick passed away late yesterday afternoon. It was an exceptionally uncomfortable day for him, and I am grateful to know that he is finally whole again, and at peace. We are still in the process of figuring out a plan for visitation hours in Needham, and a Memorial service in Winchester. My sister plans to update his website when we figure it all out. If there is anyone in OBC that would like to send something to be read at his memorial, please feel free to send them to raredpath@hotmail.com . In addition, I am trying to locate some exceptionally meaningful excerpts, short stories, blurbs etc. about baseball/life. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thank you Roberta Redpath >From: "Bob Donaldson" >Reply-To: >To: "Roberta Redpath" >Subject: RE: News about Rick >Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:10:35 -0400 >Yes, all of OBC knows. Everybody wants to know if there is anything we can >do. Please don't hesitate to ask if there is anything we could do to help >and remember that a number of OBCers live nearby. >thanks and God Bless! >-----Original Message----- >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:06 AM >To: bdonaldson@callisma.com >Subject: RE: News about Rick >You were the only one I updated about Rick's condition. He continues to >decline, and we are doing our best to manage his discomfort. Could you >please let the rest of the OBC group know. Thanks > >From: "Bob Donaldson" > >Reply-To: > >To: "Roberta Redpath" > >Subject: RE: News about Rick > >Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 10:28:49 -0400 > > > >Roberta, > > > >I'm sorry to hear the news. I know that everyone in OBC is keeping Rick > >and > >all the Redpaths in our thoughts and prayers. Please let me know if > >is anything I can do to help. Please keep in mind I'm just a short ride > >128 if there's anything I can do. > > > >thanks > > > >Bob > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 10:22 AM > >To: bdonaldson@callisma.com > >Subject: RE: News about Rick > > > > > >To Bob, and all of Ricks OBC friends, > > > >I'm sorry to say that the last few weeks have been quite difficult, and > >Rick's condition is deteriorating rapidly. The surgery was not able to > >restore any of his lost functioning, and he is now home, sleeping most of > >the time, confined to bed, but mostly pain free. We are managing his > >symptoms with the help of hospice, and are doing all that we can to keep > >him > >comfortable. I know that you have all remained in his thoughts, even > >through these difficult times. All of your friendships have enriched his > >life, and I thank you all again for that. > > > >Roberta Redpath > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Bob Donaldson" > > >Reply-To: > > >To: "Roberta Redpath" > > >Subject: RE: News about Rick > > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 21:31:41 -0400 > > > > > >Roberta, > > > > > >Sorry to hear about Rick's recent troubles, I will continue to keep him > >in > > >my prayers. Please let me know if there is anything I can do. > > > > > >Bob > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Roberta Redpath [mailto:raredpath@hotmail.com] > > >Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:25 PM > > >To: alcattle@earthlink.net; mrbill@jsi.com; nthomas@pol.net; > > >joel@jsi.com; tricia.bombara@verizon.net; redpath51@home.com; > > >grains@dccnet.com; jxm5@cdc.gov; bdonaldson@callisma.com; > > >defonet@attbi.com; lynnm@piol.net; rpelletier@jsi.com; > > >chel.harr@verizon.net; rowens@jsi.com; simondonovan@mindspring.com; > > >ellen_barnes@needham.K12.ma.us > > >Subject: News about Rick > > > > > > > > > > > >To all of our friends: > > > > > >Things with Rick have been quite variable during the last many weeks. > >The > > >high point was a trip to Florida in early march where Rick was able to > >see > > >three spring training games in Fort Myers. The lows have come since > > >with the news that his tumor has continued to grow. That was detected > > >along > > >with a diagnosis of hydrocephalus (excess spinal fluid in his brain), > >which > > >was treated with the insertion of a shunt. The combination of the two > >had > > >caused him to loose his ability to walk, along with a great deal of > > >cognitive processing. He is recovering from the surgery slowly, and it > >is > > >still not clear how many of his recent symptoms will be corrected by > > >shunt. He is able to walk with assistance, and will probably go home > > >tomorrow. I wish I could say he was in his usual good spirits. He > > >pretty flat right now, I am hoping to see an improvement tomorrow. > > > > > >It is not clear what we will do next. We will see his surgeon and > > >oncologist next Friday for a follow-up, and make some decisions then. > > >continue to appreciate all of the positive energy and prayers that you > >can > > >send our way. > > > > > > > > >Roberta > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > >The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ================= To: Subject: Rick Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 13:10:56 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" I'm hoping Rick is getting ready for a game of catch with Shoeless Joe.....or anyone he finds named Bubba....at Fenway, of course. Rick....you will be missed. Our thoughts are with the Redpath family. ================= To: , "Grant Rainsley" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:28:36 -0400 From: "John Collins" Unlike some of you, I can't say that I knew Rick very well or even ever methim personally. But from what I know and saw, he was 100% what OBC was all about. I can still remember how happy he was with a beat up '56 Koufax, and thinking about that will make me smile every time I hear his name. Rest well Rick, we'll miss you. OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Rainsley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: raredpath@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick I'm hoping Rick is getting ready for a game of catch with Shoeless Joe.....or anyone he finds named Bubba....at Fenway, of course. Rick....you will be missed. Our thoughts are with the Redpath family. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "obc" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 15:41:53 -0500 From: "ken goetsch" I have never had the pleasure of trading with this gentleman, but reading this, brings a tear to my eyes, and confirms why I joined OBC about 5 Montha Rest well Rick. Ken Goetsch ----- Original Message ----- From: John Collins To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; Grant Rainsley Cc: raredpath@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick Unlike some of you, I can't say that I knew Rick very well or even ever met him personally. But from what I know and saw, he was 100% what OBC was all about. I can still remember how happy he was with a beat up '56 Koufax, and thinking about that will make me smile every time I hear his name. Rest well Rick, we'll miss you. OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Rainsley To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: raredpath@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick I'm hoping Rick is getting ready for a game of catch with Shoeless Joe.....or anyone he finds named Bubba....at Fenway, of course. Rick....you will be missed. Our thoughts are with the Redpath family. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 17:35:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Mark S Talbot Hello All, I am saddened by the loss of Rick Redpath. I never met Rick personally but had a number of email conversations with him a few years back about Needham, MA. I lived there for about a year many years ago and Rick shared with me what was new in the town. We shared about our families and friends, I wrote to him of my early childhood in New England (I was born in Bristol, CN) and summer on Cape Cod at my aunts cottage. Sure there was cardboard sent between us - but it's those email conversations that I remember. He will be fondly remembered, like an "old friend" by this OBC'er - my thoughts and prayers continue to go to Roberta and the Redpath family. Save me front row seats Rick!!! BE WELL!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@comcast.net * ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: LIFE Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:09:53 -0400 From: abaran@perriergroup.com Below is a poem that I found that made me think about how great a "Team Player" Rick was. The poem is titled "LIFE", which was written by former Major League Player Jim "Mudcat" Grant. I have forwarded it to Roberta, but also wanted to share it with the group. Be well. Andy Baran Nestl=E9 Waters North America Inc. (630) 435-9502 Ext. 506 (Office) (630) 988-3501 (Cell) (419) 715-2406 (Fax) > LIFE > Life is like a game of baseball, > You play it every day. > It isn't just the breaks you get, > But the kind of game you play. > So stop and look your whole team over, > And you'll find dedication there. > You're bound to be a winner, > With men who really care. > Your pitcher's name is courage, > You need him in the game. > For faith and trust your keystone men, > The grounders they will tame. > Your center fielder is very fast, > Though small and hard to see. > So watch him, son, when he gets, > The ball he's opportunity. > In left field there's ambition, > Never let him shirk. > For in right field there's a husky man, > I'm told his name is work. > At first base there's religion, > He's stood the test of time. > At third base there's brotherhood, > The stalwart of the nine. > Your catcher's name is humor, > He's important to the scheme. > For with honor warming in the bull pen, > The game is always clean. > With love on the bench, > You've perfection no less. > With a winning team, > And joy and happiness. > Your other team is strong, son, > Greed, hatred, envy and defeat. > Are for strong infielders, > You'll have to buck to make your game complete. > Deceitfulness and a man called waste, > Are always playing hard. > Selfishness and jealousy, > None can you disregard. > Carelessness and falsehood, > Are the big boys in the pen. > You'll have to swing hard, son, > When you come up to them. > There's one more man you'll have to watch, > He's always very near. > He's the pitcher on that team, > And I'm told his name is fear. > This game will not be easy, > There'll be trouble, there'll be strife. > To make the winning runs, my boy, > For this game is played on the field of life. > So stand behind your team, my boy, > There'll be many who'll applaud. > Just remember that you're the player, > And the umpire here is God. ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 07:07:09 +0800 To: Ramblings Subject: Rick From: Lynn Miller This is certainly a very sad day for OBC. And for me especially. We have lost a brother. I had grown to know Rick through many emails and had developed a more personal relationship than I have with most of you. Although I have come to know many of you well and some just as close. Of course all of us are close, some more than others. But with Rick it was a little more special. It has pained me to see him and his family endure what they have over the past year or so. I regret that I was never able to express completely and in person the fondness with which I held his friendship dear. He will definitely always be remembered. And if there is anything I can do for Roberta, Ian and Casey in the future, I will. And this may not be the right time to approach Roberta with this, perhaps someone can later. But as something for everyone to give thought to so it can be presented, if OK, by someone at an appropriate time. I propose we leave Rick's wantlist on the website as a memorial to him. That we can someday complete his collection for Ian or Casey in fond memory of their Dad. In the hopes that they may perpetuate his memory through it. It's eerie that as I was reading Bob's email, I was also putting a small package together to send to Rick. It's still going to go, but the note will be changed. I know we have had other situations, but I would like to see this one done. Rick, I'm going to miss you dearly. Fair winds and following seas, Lynn ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:30:29 -0400 To: grains@dccnet.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, I echo the others' sentiments on Rick's passing. We have lost a good friend. The poems were very nice and certainly struck a chord, I think. I know I am not alone in saying that our thoughts and prayers go with Roberta and the children. We will not forget you, Rick. Perhaps this was the final baseball transaction for you, but I am certain you have been promoted to the majors. ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:54:21 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] FW: News about Rick To: bdonaldson@callisma.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com We will miss Rick greatly, like Grant I am hoping he is preparing to play catch with the many greats that left before their time! The following is a fews Baseball Quotes: "That's your Perogative, nurse. I never cared much for hospitals, either." ------Leon Cadore reply to a nurse who said to him on his deathbed, "So you're the famous pitcher. You know, I never cared much for baseball." "Well, God is getting an earful today. I hope He understands the infield fly rule, the hit and run, how to pitch to Hornsby with men on, when to platoon, when it would do you some good to bunt, and what really happened in the 1913 World Series. He will get an illustrated lecture on the hook slide, the best place to play Babe Ruth, when to order the infield in, and how to steal on "At the end of all this, the narrator will doff his cap ana a sparrow will fly out. :they finally slipped a called third strike past Casey Stengel. He can't argue the call. The game is over. Dusk is settling on the bleachers, the lights are turned on in the press box where 'my wriers' are putting '30' to the final bits of Stengelese they will ever type." -----On the death of Casey Stengel, September 29, 1975 "In the hospital, about a week before he died, the doctor leaned over his bed and said, 'Lefty, picture yourself on the mound and rate the pain from 1 to "And Lefty looked at him and said, 'Who's hitting Doc?" -------June Gomez on Lefty Gomez "I thinks me lads, this is me last slide." ------King Kelly the record base stealer, on his deathbed in 1894 "It rained that day. Even the heavens wept at the passing of Babe Ruth." ------Arthur Daley reporting on Ruth's funeral "Joe, so would the Babe." ----Waite Hoyt to Joe Dugan at Babe Ruth's funeral after Dugan said, "Lord, I'd give my right arm for an ice-cold beer," "The Big Guy's left us with the night to face, And there is no one who can take his place." -------Grantland Rice on the death of Babe Ruth "-----he accomplished something endearingly American. He found a small measure of fame in his very obscurity. So long, Dutch. We'll try to keep your memory alive, such as it was. -------The Kansas City Star on the death of Emil Verban (June 26, 1989), whon George Will once called "the patron sait of Cubs fans because he symbolizes mediocrity under pressure." Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 22:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Rick To: From: I am truly enjoying reading the OBC memories of Rick. He must have been a special guy, since I too felt closer to him than usual, even though I never met him. We had planned to meet up at Fenway when my boys were old enough to attend a game, and sadly we are headed up for our first "three generation" Red Sox game this weekend. If Rick hadn't been ill, my guess is this coming weekend is when I would have met him and his kids. Rick, you will be missed. Maybe you can look up the Babe and get him to recant "The Curse". If the Red Sox win it all this year, 100% of the credit goes to Rick. Rest well, my friend. ================= Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 22:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Memorial To: From: To our New England OBCers- I know that at certain places, like Cooperstown, you can buy a brick or something and have it engraved however you like. Is there something like this in or around Fenway, so that Rick's name can be close to the Fens ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 02:07:51 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick To: BDAngelo@aol.com, grains@dccnet.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com I couldn't have said it better myself. Looks like OBC has the makings of a great team for the big guy. Kevin, ZZBob, and now Rick. You know those guys are up there flipping cards and swapping stories. I don't know where we stand with doing something for Roberta, but I'm in. And I really like the idea of still hitting his wantlist. I guess we should clear that with her in due time... The thing that always gets me is how close we are as a group. Some we've met in person, some we haven't, but it's that family thing we have here. The loss is felt just as deeply. Rick, may all your cards be in Tipton shape! ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 07:14:11 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Rick From: Originaleek@webtv.net I just dug up the welcome note Rick sent when I joined OBC. It was easy to spot due to the picture of a 59T Yogi Berra (tipton of course) in the upper left corner. With the note came my first two 55T cards, Ray Herbert & Reno Bertoia. My sadness is eased a bit as I think of the new significance these cards now have & knowing I have tangible symbols of Rick's incredible goodness. Thanks again Rick, you will be missed and remembered! We keep what we give away! ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Rick Redpath update Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 10:25:55 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" There is an online memorial to Rick at this address http://users.rcn.com/rredpath/ I will attend Rick's wake service on Wednesday and should be able to attend the Memorial Service on Friday AM. If any area OBCers plan on attending please let me know and perhaps we can meet. Respecting the Redpath's wishes I have not ordered flowers, but will make a donation (tonight) from the collected money to one of the requested charities in Rick's name. I have ordered a sympathy basket (fruit, candy, cake etc.) from Harry and David, which should arrive tomorrow. Over the next few weeks I will gather money left over in the fund and get the gift certificate to a maid service for Roberta. ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Fort Washington PA show this weekend Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 14:12:10 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" Who is going? I will try to have cards set aside for anyone who I know will be there. ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:39:16 EDT Subject: My memories of Rick Redpath To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jrhatchjr@aol.com I consider myself fortunate to have met Rick Redpath and to have exchanged greetings with him personally on many occasions. It was three years ago now when I first met Rick - at an OBC gathering, of course. As I recall there were nine of us packed into the Fenway bleachers watching Brian Rose and the Olde Towne Team get pounded - by Oakland I believe. Rick had brought some treats for us all that night: some 19XX Topps wax packs to bust open. I'm sure you can just imagine us all ripping through packs in the bleachers, reading off stats of famous and infamous players of the day. One of the cards got so badly mangled and defaced that it ended up as a bonus in our "cup" game. Over the years, we caught up with each other at local shows. He was a regular at the Wilmington, MA Shriner's Convention, where we would let each other have a chuckle over the beat up pieces of cardboard each of us found in the hall. In fact, it was last November at that show when I last saw Rick. I can remember seeing him at the end of an aisle and then going up to him and giving him a big hug - and getting one twice as big in return. At the time he was in good spirits - so much so that he ended up completing one of his sets before some of us could! Rick was accepted into OBC on the same day I was: May 22, 1999. It was really neat to find out that there was someone else close by with the same collecting "tastes" as me. Among other notes and cards I still have from Rick, one card that brings me particular joy is a 1973 Yogi Berra. He asked me for the copy I had in my set and I sent it without hesitation. I got it back a few weeks later - or at least most of it. What's left of the card still resides in my set, along with the note he sent with it. While I'm truly saddened by Rick passing, I also remember the joy he brought to me and many others over the years. It will be those memories of a fine man that last with me for the rest of my days. ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: New wantlist: Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:59:59 -0400 From: "Steve Rittenberg" After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to see. And I decided I want to go see the rest. Here are the ones I've been to: Fenway Park (numerous times) Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:18:31 EDT Subject: obak questions To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: amcook93@aol.com Are there any ads on the backs of 1910 Obaks that only appear on the 150 What are the know ads for 150 series (even if they also appear on 175 ================= To: "Steve Rittenberg" , Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:20:41 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Awesome idea. Here's mine. Fenway (Favorite) Montreal Olympic Stadium Toronto Dome Baltimore Memorial Camden Yards Washington RFK (exhibition Bos vs. Balt) Atlanta Fulton county Atlanta Turner Field (the new one, was only there for the Olympic trials) Chicago Wrigley Chicago Old Comiskey Dettoit Tiger Stadium Dodger Stadium Arizona BOB San Diego Qualcom Aneheim Edison Too many minor leagues to mention I'll be in NorCal May 12-24 and should hit SF and Oak. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rittenberg [mailto:srittenberg66@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: Ramblings Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to see. And I decided I want to go see the rest. Here are the ones I've been to: Fenway Park (numerous times) Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:33:59 EDT Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com From: TPLY@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:33:01 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: srittenberg66@earthlink.net The Parks I have been too: Candlestick Park Pac Bell Park Oakland Coliseum Seattle King Dome Dodger Stadium Anaheim Stadium Wrigley Field Chicago White Sox Stadium Milwaukee Old Stadium Milwaukee New Stadium Yankee Stadium Atlanta Old Stadium Atlanta New Stadium Minor Leagues San Jose Giants Las Vegas Charleston, S.C. Savannah, Ga. I might have forgotten some, don't think so though. I too have to see more ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:38:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: Steve Rittenberg From: Mark S Talbot Hello Steve and others, I will participate in this little exercise as it will take my mind off the loss of Rick Redpath from OBC and Dennis Medbourn from VCT. I know those guys are at "The Best Park" as we speak. Ballparks I have visited: Tiger Stadium - oh so many times, plus I was there in `68 and `84. Comerica Park - @ a dozen times now. Crosley Field - My first major league game with my Toronto Skydome - Actually saw the Argo's in a game. Houston Astrodome - 25 years ago, my band was playing next door in Astro Hall. Got a great tour of the place by one of the engineers who I got to Joker Marchant Stadium (Lakeland, FL) - Spring training home of the Tigers. Pontiac Silverdome - Lion's Football (Well some call it football) That's it for ballparks, I've been to a few arena's for Basketball & Hockey as well. I seen Three Rivers Stadium from the expressway - does that count? Thanks for the diversion Steve. When you make it back to the Motor City I sure wouldn't mind hosting your visit to Comerica!!! BE WELL!!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@comcast.net * ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:43:42 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ballparks From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, Neat idea. Here are the parks I have been to: Yankee Stadium Shea Stadium Polo Grounds (saw Mets-Pirates as a 5-year-old in 1962) Arlington Stadium Tropicana Field Municipal Stadium (West Palm Beach Expos) Legends Field (Tampa Yankees) Engel Stadium (Chattanooga Lookouts) Holman Stadium (Vero Beach Dodgers) Joker Marchant Stadium (Lakeland Tigers) Jack Russell Stadium (Clearwater Phillies) Al Lang Field (St. Pete Cardinals) Al Lopez Field (Tampa Reds) Ed White Stadium (Sarasota White Sox) Fort Lauderdale Stadium (Ft. Lauderdale Yankees) ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:46:23 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com The MLB Ballparks Ive visited are: Shea stadium Yankee stadium Fenway park Olympic stadim Camden Yards PNC park The Vet Three Rivers Joe Robbie Stadium Minorleague parks Keyspan Park (Brooklyn Cyclones) Dutchess Stadium ( Hudson Valley Renegades) PNC Stadium (syracuse Chiefs) Falcon Park ( Aubern Doubledays) Richmond County Bank Ballpark at St. George (statan Island Yankees) Joseph L. Bruno Stadium (tri city valley cats) Thats all so far ROB GIOIA ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:48:49 -0400 Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Robert Corvello" I think we have done this before, but I love the concept; so here is my Fenway (many, many times - center of the universe)
Yankee Stadium (a few times - highlight -> Dwight Evans guns down Yankee runner at third)
Shea Stadium (only once, believe it or not, to see Rico Brogna play for Camden Yards (peeked in over right field fence to empty stadium - does that count?)
Sky Dome (a couple of weeks after it opened - 2 games Red Sox vs. Jays)
Busch Stadium (peeked in from top of  Gateway Arch to empty stadium - does that count?)
Olympic Stadium (peeked in from overhanging tower to empty stadium - does that count?)
Wrigley Field (peeked down from airplane - does that count?)
Humphreydome (for Final Four NCAA hoops - does that count?)
Kingdome (on a morning tour - does that count?)
Alameda County Colliseum (Red Sox vs. A's in the early '90s)
Candlestick Park (Barry hits three homers, two of which when I was in rest room and buying hot dogs)
Anaheim Stadium (July 1972 - Red Sox lose to Angels)
Bob Donaldson wrote:

Awesome idea.  Here's mine.
Fenway (Favorite)
Montreal Olympic Stadium
Toronto Dome
Shea
Yankee
Baltimore Memorial
Camden Yards
Washington RFK (exhibition Bos vs. Balt)
Atlanta Fulton county
Atlanta Turner Field (the new one, was only there for the Olympic trials)
Chicago Wrigley
Chicago Old Comiskey
Dettoit Tiger Stadium
Dodger Stadium
Arizona BOB
San Diego Qualcom
Aneheim Edison
Too many minor leagues to mention
I'll be in NorCal May 12-24 and should hit SF and Oak.
thanks
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Rittenberg [mailto:srittenberg66@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:00 PM
To: Ramblings
Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks
After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I
thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to see.
And I decided I want to go see the rest.
Here are the ones I've been to:
Fenway Park (numerous times)
Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles)
Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles)
RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators)
Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times)
Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event)
Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event)
Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event)
PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event)
Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks
Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing.
Write in and let us know how many you have gone to.
Steve
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================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 16:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: Ramblings From: Jim Beauchemin Cool project! Here's my list, off the cuff, roughly in chronological order: Jarry Park Olympic Stadium Yankee Stadium Shea Stadium Fenway Park Candlestick Park Oakland Coliseum Met Stadium (Norfolk Va, former home of the Tidewater Veteran's Stadium Memorial Stadium (Baltimore) BeeHive Field (New Britain CT) McCoy Stadium (Pawtucket) Bleecker STadium (AA Albany A's Heritage Park (AA Albany Yankees) Palm Springs Stadium (A Palm Springs Angels) Wahconah Park (A Pittsfield Mets) Bruno Stadium (A Tri-City ValleyCats) Damaschke Field (A Oneonta Tigers) Centennial Field (A Vermont Expos) I'm with Steve. Join me now, as we chant: Road Trip, Road Trip! --- Steve Rittenberg > After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park > on Saturday night, I > thought about how many ball parks (major and minor > league) I've been to see. > And I decided I want to go see the rest. > Here are the ones I've been to: > Fenway Park (numerous times) > Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) > Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) > RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) > Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 > times) > Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) > Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) > Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) > PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) > Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks > Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball > Im missing. > Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. > Steve Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:54:35 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: forgot one ballpark From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi gang, I forgot one ballpark -- Pro Player Stadium in Miami. ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:58:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "Robert Corvello"         I forgot to mention something when I posted my list. About 10-12 years ago there was a great book written on this subject by a Cincinnati school teacher. I wish I could remember his name - something short like Bob Cole I think. Anyway, it was called, FROM DODGER DOGS TO FENWAY FRANKS. Cole was a school teacher who promised himself that some summer he would travel the country and hit every big league stadium for a game. Well, this one summer in the late '80s he did just that, devoting a chapter to each park and grading each one with a teacher's report card. As a result, you end up with a great almost sociological study of the meaning of each park to its city and its team's fans. Of  course, the newer parks are not included, but he's got some terrific insights about Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, County Stadium in Milwaukee, etc.
       If you are interested in this topic, I would advise you to try to find it. A really great basball read.
 

================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Fenway help To: From: Hi all- For those of you close to Boston, I am looking for a little advice on parking, etc. I will be driving (with my dad, wife, and 4 and 5 year olds) from Newport RI, to Fenway for games Friday night and Saturday afternoon. Where is the best place to park? I thought about taking the train, and if were just adults, I might. But I am not too sure with the kids. Any advice on how to approach Fenway on both a night game and a day game, maybe with rain all day, with a family, would be great. Thanks, ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 00:09:25 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ballparks From: "Joe Isaac" My turn for the list: Shea - many many times Yankee - many many many times including Seaver's 300th win The Vet - many many times - was at the game when Schmidt ran on the field with a wig -:) Memorial Stadium Fulton County Three Rivers The Homer Dome Kauffman Field The Jake Tiger Stadium Wrigley Field Comiskey Park Minor League Iowa Cubs (AAA) Reading Phillies (AA) That's it for now. A nice diversion from today, thanks Steve! ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 17:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Jim Beauchemin I remember seeing a review of that book, it did sound very interesting. I just ordered a used copy from Amazon for $2.19. I'll offer it around after I read --- Robert Corvello wrote: I forgot to mention something when I posted my list. About10-12 years ago there was a great book written on this subject by aCincinnati school teacher. I wish I could remember his name - somethingshort like Bob Cole I think. Anyway, it was called, FROM DODGER DOGS TOFENWAY FRANKS. Cole was a school teacher who promised himself that somesummer he would travel the country and hit every big league stadium fora game. Well, this one summer in the late '80s he did just that,devoting a chapter to each park and grading each one with a teacher'sreport card. As a result, you end up with a great almost sociologicalstudy of the meaning of each park to its city and its team's fans. Of course, the newer parks are not included, but he's got some terrificinsights about Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, County Stadium inMilwaukee, etc. If you are interested in this topic, I would advise you to tryto find it. A really great basball Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:21:11 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks To: BDAngelo@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com What a great idea, however I am a rookie in this arena, Major League Parks: Chavez Ravine Candlestick (Rick won't invite me out for a game at Pac Bell) Coors Field Mile High Stadium (to see the Rockies, The Denver Zephyrs and the Denver Anaheim stadium (the old one) Wrigley Field (well, Joel drove me by one night) Cominsky (see above) Minor League Parks Cashman Field (Las Vegas) ChiSox Field (where the White Sox AAA team played in the early 50s) 19 days til V03 Rest well, ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:31:52 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks To: jwi62@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: GHAY1@aol.com Here's my dinky list: Arlington Stadium The Ballpark in Arlington Houston Astrodome Royals Stadium The Vet Minor League: Cashman Field - Las Vegas Upcoming (5/29) - Frisco Roughriders, Texas League George Hay ================= To: "Steve Rittenberg" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:57:12 -0700 From: "Greg Conway" Let's see here... Fenway Park 8 games , 5 times as a kid, 3 times as an adult, (big kid) 2 ofthose 3 times with an OBC guy Anaheim Stadium (The Big Halo), 5 games as a teenager Dodger Stadium, 1 game as a teenager Busch Stadium, 6 games as an adult, 1 of those times meeting an OBC guy there Riverfront Stadium, 1 game as an adult Cominsky Park (Old), 2 games as an adult Cominsky Park (New), 1 game as an adult and with an OBC guy Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, 1 game as an adult Tropicanna Field, 1 game as an adult add a Cardinal Football game at Busch Stadium, A Colt Football game at the RCA Dome and an ABA, Anaheim Amigos Basketball game at the Anaheim Convention Center and that is all my big league pro sports games attended. 29 games. Greg (yaz) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Rittenberg To: Ramblings Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to see. And I decided I want to go see the rest. Here are the ones I've been to: Fenway Park (numerous times) Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: "Steve Rittenberg" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:05:13 -0700 From: "Greg Conway" Oh, Jeepers! I forgot the Minor League Park, Bosse Field right here in Evansville, second oldest ballpark still being used for pro ball in America Greg (yaz) ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Conway To: Steve Rittenberg ; Ramblings Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks Let's see here... Fenway Park 8 games , 5 times as a kid, 3 times as an adult, (big kid) 2 of those 3 times with an OBC guy Anaheim Stadium (The Big Halo), 5 games as a teenager Dodger Stadium, 1 game as a teenager Busch Stadium, 6 games as an adult, 1 of those times meeting an OBC guy there Riverfront Stadium, 1 game as an adult Cominsky Park (Old), 2 games as an adult Cominsky Park (New), 1 game as an adult and with an OBC guy Atlanta Fulton County Stadium, 1 game as an adult Tropicanna Field, 1 game as an adult add a Cardinal Football game at Busch Stadium, A Colt Football game at the RCA Dome and an ABA, Anaheim Amigos Basketball game at the Anaheim Convention Center and that is all my big league pro sports games attended. 29 games. Greg (yaz) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Rittenberg To: Ramblings Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been tosee. And I decided I want to go see the rest. Here are the ones I've been to: Fenway Park (numerous times) Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! 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Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 01:10:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Ballparks From: "alcattle" Just to make George feel better, this is a dinky list Sick's Stadium Pilots Kingdome M's Safeco M's Cashman Stars and 51's Cheney Tigers, Giants, Rainiers (Tacoma) Big Al in Seattle --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, GHAY1@a... wrote: > Here's my dinky list: > MLB: > Arlington Stadium > The Ballpark in Arlington > Houston Astrodome > Royals Stadium > The Vet > PacBell > Minor League: > Cashman Field - Las Vegas > Upcoming (5/29) - Frisco Roughriders, Texas League > George Hay ================= To: Subject: Ball Parks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 18:12:40 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Pretty puny list here: Triple A: Capilano Stadium, home of the Vancouver Mounties, now the Vancouver Canadians of Single A, and the stadium has been renamed Nat Bailey, after the original owner of the Mounties...go figure. Sicks in Seattle, home to the Rainiers way back then Portland, Oregon, home of the Beavers...was it called Multnomah back then? I can't remember. Everett, WA, home of the Single A Aqua Sox The Bigs: Big A in Anaheim, Kingdome in Seattle, Candlestick, Oakland, and Yankee Stadium. We were at Yankee in the off season, so I only got to see it from the outside, but I'm counting it anyways. ================= To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:20:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks From: Bob Saxton Not a lengthy list, but enjoyable times: Connie Mack Stadium Tiger Stadium Forbes Field Three Rivers Municipal Stadium, Cleveland Jacobs Field County Stadium, Milwaukee Busch Stadium Jerry Uht Park- Erie Ainsworth Field - Erie (old one) http://www.Writing.Com/authors/judgeguy ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks To: From: My ballparks so far: Dodger Stadium The Vet Yankee Stadium The Jake Camden Yards Miller Park Three Rivers Riverfront (for a football game) Minor league parks: too many to list in South Carolina, Florida, and all over PA. ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:45:27 EDT Subject: Yet another baseball quote: To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com I just read a pretty good article on AOL writtem by Richard Justice titled "IF I Were King of Baseball". Some of us have often talked about Mike Hair taking over baseball and reading this article reminded me fondly of those conversations with Mike. The part that really struck me from the AOL article follows and seems to fit with our grief losing Rick Redpath recently: "-- Every fan would take a stroll down Yawkey Way on a Sunday morning before the Red Sox play an afternoon game at Fenway Park. They would smell the Italian sausages, see the expressions on the faces of kids and hear hundreds of fans arguing about the Sox. They'd be reminded why the Summer Game is so Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:53:06 EDT Subject: The complete article "If I Were King of Baseball" To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com I suspect some of you may be interested in reading the complete article by Richard King I quoted earlier and for those of you that havn't found it yet or do not have access, here it is: MLB Would Be Much Better Off With a Few Changes By RICHARD JUSTICE AOL Exclusive If I were king, there'd be some changes made... Fans would appreciate the game's scouts, the men who work the longest hours, make the least money and love the game the most. They'd appreciate men like Sandy Johnson, who while working for the Texas Rangers 18 years ago looked at a 160-pound Dominican kid and told colleagues: "I think he's got a chance to be special.'' This spring when Johnson, now working for the Arizona Diamondbacks, got sick, one of the first telephone calls was from that kid. "Don't ever forget how special you are to me,'' Sammy Sosa told him. And there's Dr. James Farrar, who has spent five decades in the game and still loves it as much as he did his first day. Seven years ago, Farrar took a four-hour detour to a tiny Mississippi town because he'd gotten a tip about a pitcher. He's received hundreds of similar tips through the years and checks as many out as he can because the next great thing might be out there pitching for some junior college you've never heard of. That day, Farrar saw something that reminded him why he loves it so much. He was one of the first scouts to see Roy Oswalt pitch. He convinced the Astros to draft him. Now 25, Oswalt is 35-13 in his brief big league career and seems on the fast track to stardom. The Baseball Hall of Fame hopes to open a wing honoring scouts in the next few years. Tracy Ringolsby of the Rocky Mountain News has been one of the leaders in raising funds for the wing, and several big league general managers have written checks. -- We would all appreciate Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens in the twilight days of their incredible careers. Between them, they've won 520 games and chalked up 7,699 strikeouts. To say that we may not see their kind again is an understatement. -- Joe Torre and Brian Cashman would win another World Series and promptly turn in their resignations, leaving Yankees owner George Steinbrenner alone to swim in his bitterness. Steinbrenner seems to hate the fact that Torre has become so popular, that he's revered by players, fans and reporters alike. He now seems intent on picking a fight with the game's best manager. For his part, Cashman has always taken the brunt of Steinbrenner's bluster over the years, yet he also loves the Yankees, loves the winning and appreciates the opportunity Steinbrenner has given him. No two men in baseball history have ever done their jobs better than Torre and Cashman, and neither has ever been anything but respectful to Steinbrenner. For some reason, that no longer appears to be enough. -- Alan Trammell would enjoy a long and successful run as manager of the Detroit Tigers. He's off to a bad start, but those who admired him as a player and know him as a person, know he's as honest and decent and knowledgeable and as deserving of success as any man in the game. Let him one day look back on this horrible start and laugh and understand that the foundation for something special was laid one loss at a time in his first season. -- That the Atlanta Braves would win at least one more World Series before John Schuerholz, Bobby Cox, Leo Mazzone, John Smoltz and the others depart. The Braves have been baseball's best team for more than a decade, but because they've only won one World Series, too many interviews include, "Yeah, No more buts. Let them receive the credit for doing their jobs better than anyone this side of Yankee Stadium. -- That the Tampa Bay Devil Rays would have a legitimate chance to succeed. Get rid of baseball's worst stadium -- Tropicana Field. Say goodbye to baseball's worst owner -- Vince Naimoli. A gold watch please for the worst general manager -- Chuck Lamar. Maybe the fans of Tampa Bay simply don't like baseball, but it's impossible to judge them because the Devil Rays have been so poorly run, because they play in a stadium with a poor design and worse location and because they've been saddled with a baseball staff that has made so many wrong moves. -- Every fan would know how much my friend Hal McCoy of the Dayton Daily News loves the game and why his peers consider him one of the best in the business. He has covered the Cincinnati Reds with grace and perseverance since the days of the Big Red Machine, and he enjoys coming to the ballpark more than any man I've ever known. This season should have been one long victory parade for Hal, who will be inducted into the writer's wing of the Hall of Fame this summer. Instead, it has become a terrible test. Three years after a stroke cost him much of the sight in one eye, he has now lost much of the sight in the other. He's legally blind, but because he's so good, his newspaper is urging him to continue. He has done that. He has gotten assistance from colleagues and players like Aaron Boone, but mostly he's still terrific because he knows what questions to ask, he has the trust of players and management and because he absolutely loves it. -- Every fan would take a stroll down Yawkey Way on a Sunday morning before the Red Sox play an afternoon game at Fenway Park. They would smell the Italian sausages, see the expressions on the faces of kids and hear hundreds of fans arguing about the Sox. They'd be reminded why the Summer Game is so -- The Kansas City Royals would spend the entire season in first place, Ewing Kaufman Stadium would be packed throughout the summer and a place that once loved its baseball team will rediscover that passion. -- The good guys in the game would be rewarded over and over. Guys like Luis Gonzalez and Reggie Sanders and Jeff Bagwell and Tom Glavine and Sean Casey and Andy Pettitte and Jorge Posada and Mike Sweeney and Shane Reynolds and Jim Thome and Tim Salmon and Chipper Jones and Todd Helton. -- Every World Series champion would have as much fun as the Anaheim Angels had last fall. They would know how Troy Percival felt when that last out was recorded, would understand the tears of Tim Salmon and the spirit of David Eckstein, the winning would never be dull or boring, that every champion would feel as if they were on a magic carpet ride they never wanted to win. -- Jack Morris would be inducted into the Hall of Fame. In the '80s and part of the '90s, no pitcher in baseball was better in the big games. He was a tenacious competitor, and for several years, as close to a sure thing as there was. His 10-inning shutout of the Braves in Game 7 of the 1991 World Series stands as one of the great clutch performances of all-time. -- Finally, Texas music legend Robert Earl Keen would receive an apology for having this column's opening line stolen from one of his songs. Richard Justice is the national baseball columnist for the Houston Chronicle and The Sports Xchange. Produced by SportsLine ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:55:37 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: trufan999@aol.com Cleveland Municipal Stadium Jacobs Field Olympic Park (Montreal) Jack Murphy Stadium (Padres) ??? Angels back in '88 Minor Leagues Charlestown Rainbows (SC) Aeros Stadium (Akron) ???? Columbus Clippers Clearwater Phillies Duniden Blue Jays John Leroux ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ball Parks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:05:35 -0400 From: "galtemos" Brings back memories............. Ebbets Field, Brooklyn Polo Grounds, New York Yankee Stadium (old........much nicer than new) Shea Stadium Fenway Park Wrigley Field (played there) Comiskey Park (old) Dodger Stadium Tiger Stadium Doubleday Field, Cooperstown (played there) ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:17:33 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New wantlist: Ballparks From: "Brett W. Domue" Here are the ones I've been to: Major League: Anaheim Edison Stadium Atlanta Turner Field Baltimore Memorial Stadium Baltimore Camden Yards Boston Fenway Park Cleveland Jacobs Field Miami Joe Robbie / Pro Player Stadium New York Shea Stadium New York Yankee Stadium Philadelphia Veterans Stadium Phoenix Bank One Ballpark Pittsburgh Three Rivers Stadium San Francisco PacBell Park Seattle Safeco Field Fort Lauderdale Stadium (Ft. Lauderdale Yankees) BeeHive Field (New Britain, CT) Riverfront Stadium (Harrisburg, PA) The Ballpark at Harbor Yard (Bridgeport, CT) (Waterbury, CT) (Reading, PA) ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:43:08 -0400 From: "toppsrun368" I have been to a few major league stadiums over the years. Mostly visited as part of family trips. We try to hit at least one whenever we are on a long trip. With that, I have been too.... Yankee Stadium--a few times, nothing of major note, except a game against the Orioles and Ripken (favorite player) Shea Stadium--first time in 1991 as a 5 year old with my grandfather, second time in 98 after winning tickets from the radio station, third time after 9/11 (incredible game, stadium, fans) Skydome--family trip to Niagara, best visit because everything was free, got box seat tickets from a guy that couldn't use them due to a family emergencyy, ended up 10 rows from the field with a great view of Joe Carter Ballpark At Arlington--family trip to Oklahoma, sat in the outfield by thatknoll, hot, but fun Cinergy--first stop on that trip to Oklahoma, $3 seats, not real exciting County Stadium--family trip to Chicago, great stadium, chatted with the umps during inning breaks of a 12 inning game Wrigley Field--incredible stadium, hung around at the end to see if Sammy would sign, instead ended up chasing him in his Blue Jaguar for a block and a half to see if he would sign, I recognized him in his car but no one elsedid, he got stuck behind a garbage truck, but wouldnt sign, oh well Camden Yards--went to see Cal again after a family trip to MD Olympic Stadium--didnt catch a game but saw it on a class trip to Montreal Minor league parks-- Dutchess Stadium--Hudson Valley Renegades Oneonta Stadium--Oneonta Yankees Disney Wide World of Sports Complex--Spring Training Osceola County Stadium--Spring Training Hope to do more--can't believe I still haven't been to Fenway. Brian Dwyer ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Saxton To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Cc: jwi62@hotmail.com ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks Not a lengthy list, but enjoyable times: Connie Mack Stadium Tiger Stadium Forbes Field Three Rivers Municipal Stadium, Cleveland Jacobs Field County Stadium, Milwaukee Busch Stadium Jerry Uht Park- Erie Ainsworth Field - Erie (old one) http://www.Writing.Com/authors/judgeguy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:32:39 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Ballparks To: alcattle@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Al, if you didn;t make George feel better you did me: Old Comiskey New Comiskey Old Tiger Ballpark at Arlington Minor leagues: Lakeland, Fl Cashman in Vegas Memorial, Portland Nashville, Tn did i mention Wrigley? - Doug ================= Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 19:55:12 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ballparks From: digdugdig@webtv.net I'll never forget my first trip to Fenway...the smells...the sounds...the atmosphere. And the two souvenir deposits into the centerfield bleachers by Yaz and the "petite" Frank Howard!! Dave Morehead pitched that day and just a week or two later had his no-no. However...some of my most memorable "parks" were the circle at the end of our street, my neighbors back yard (damn that tree right behind the pitcher's mound!!) and even the left hand rough of the 4th hole at (then) Edgewood Country Club...now home of the Greater Hartford Open....oh to be young again!!! Ahhh, things that stay with you!! ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:13:23 -0600 From: "Todd Knowles" Here are mine. Fenway (7 times) Kingdome (over 100-season ticket holder during the bad years 87-88) Safeco (twice) Candlestick Park (3 times) Arlington Stadium (the old Rangers Stadium) The Ballpark at Arlington (OBC outing) Wrigley Field (with Joel Glickman) In addition, the Spring Training homes of the Mariners, Angels, Giants, As, Brewers, Cubs, and Padres in Arizona Minor league Parks: Rosenblatt Stadium-Omaha CWS and Omaha Royals Cheney Stadium-Tacoma Cashman Field-Las Vegas 89ers Stadium-Oklahoma City Bricktown Ballpark-Oklahoma City Galli Field-Bend, OR Legion Park-Great Falls, MT ================= To: "Todd Knowles" , "Ramblings" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 20:51:15 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" Did anyone mention the Stadium at Fuerte Court? There is a big game coming up there in a couple of weeks... > [Original Message] > From: Todd Knowles > To: Ramblings > Date: 4/28/2003 7:19:07 PM > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks > Here are mine. > Fenway (7 times) > Kingdome (over 100-season ticket holder during the bad years 87-88) > Safeco (twice) > Candlestick Park (3 times) > Arlington Stadium (the old Rangers Stadium) > The Ballpark at Arlington (OBC outing) > Wrigley Field (with Joel Glickman) > In addition, the Spring Training homes of the Mariners, Angels, > Giants, As, Brewers, Cubs, and Padres in Arizona > Minor league Parks: > Rosenblatt Stadium-Omaha CWS and Omaha Royals > Cheney Stadium-Tacoma > Cashman Field-Las Vegas > 89ers Stadium-Oklahoma City > Bricktown Ballpark-Oklahoma City > Galli Field-Bend, OR > Legion Park-Great Falls, MT > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Oddball Collectors Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:00:11 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" OBCers -- After Kevin sent me the 1974 proofs, I went to Ebay to see if there were any for sale just to see how oddballish they are. I only found one - a Nolan Ryan. The interesting thing about it is that Topps is selling it under the name thetoppsvault. I clicked on other items and there is a ton of proof cards, baseball card contracts, nonsport proofs, etc that they are clearing out I guess. If you've ever wanted a Deckle-edge Clemente without the Deckles, a Bruce Benedict contract, a black and white 1968 Eddie Watt card, or Civil War proofs, this is the place to go! Check it out... Take Care, Geno Geno Wagner Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 00:27:07 -0400 (EDT) To: alcattle@earthlink.net (alcattle) Subject: Ballparks From: keithsummers@webtv.net To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: "alcattle" Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 01:10:17 -0000 Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Ballparks ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 06:49:40 EDT Subject: Stroll down Yawkey Way To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: friar4@aol.com I know, sometimes I get a bit boring about my Red Sox; but that article that Rick sent out really caught my eye - the part about the stroll down Yawkey Way on a Sunday. You know, the Green Monster always gets its well-deserved recognition, as do all the nooks and crannies that make up Fenway; but I don't think anything else gives me the chill that runs up and down my spine than that walk down Yawkey way with the Italian sausage vendors chanting at every corner. If you have never been to Fenway, make it a goal. You will never forget the experience of walking into that time machine. ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] Stroll down Yawkey Way Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 07:06:31 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Don't forget George the peaanut vendor "PEEEANUTS GET YOUT FRESH ROASTED PEANUTS" (in a heavy Greek accent) -----Original Message----- From: friar4@aol.com [mailto:friar4@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 6:50 AM To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Stroll down Yawkey Way I know, sometimes I get a bit boring about my Red Sox; but that article that Rick sent out really caught my eye - the part about the stroll down Yawkey Way on a Sunday. You know, the Green Monster always gets its well-deserved recognition, as do all the nooks and crannies that make up Fenway; but I don't think anything else gives me the chill that runs up and down my spine than that walk down Yawkey way with the Italian sausage vendors chanting at every corner. If you have never been to Fenway, make it a goal. You will never forget the experience of walking into that time Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: 29 Apr 2003 06:25:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks To: Ramblings , From: Roger Raum I've seen games in 33 major league parks. one minor league game. Like to get to 40 major league parks in my lifetime. I think there are 5 new ones Ihaven't On Monday, April 28, 2003 4:59 PM, Steve Rittenberg >After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I >thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to see. >And I decided I want to go see the rest. >Here are the ones I've been to: >Fenway Park (numerous times) >Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) >Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) >RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) >Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) >Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) >Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) >Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) >PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) >Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks >Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. >Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: 29 Apr 2003 13:49:39 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ballparks From: "obcjohn@knology.net" Here's my ballparks-visited list: Sportsman's Park (St. Louis) Busch Stadium Old Comisky Park Municipal Stadium (Cleveland) Candlestick Park Fulton County Stadium (Atlanta) Turner Field Minor Leagues: Russwood Park (Memphis) Hodges Field (Memphis) Tim McCarver Stadium (Memphis) Almost Visited: Yankee Stadium (saw from a cab) ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:49:59 EDT Subject: Ball parks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: directorth@aol.com OK, my measly contribution: Crosley Field Riverfront Stadium (NEVER "Cinergy Field") Great American Ballpark Three Rivers Stadium Atlanta Fulton County Stadium Cleveland Muncipal Stadium Wrigley Field Milwaukee County Stadium Minor League: Fifth Third Field, Dayton What does it say about me that, on the above list, 6 of the parks no longer ================= To: rraum@apl-park.k12.ia.us, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:31:57 -0400 From: "Bob Reed" I was hoping Roger would add to this. For those of you who don't know Roger and his wife embarked on a journey a few summers ago touring the country visiting each Major League city. Roger, I'm sure all of us would love to hear more about that trip (when you get a chance). What cities and stadiums were the best? My list of stadiums is as follows: Oakland Alameda - went to a few games in 1969 as a six year old Candlestick - one game in '69 Atlanta Fulton County - saw Aaron play there in the 70's Cinncinati Riverfront - farmers day in 1977 (standing room only crowd) Cleveland Muncipal - many times throughout the 70's. Saw the 1981 All Star game there after the strike. The 1981 Fleer set had a card of the game and I'm sure I'm on the card somewhere along with 20 or so thousand others that sat in the outfield. Pittsburgh Three Rivers - day trip sometime in the late 70's Fenway Park - couple of times with my wife and one OBC gathering. Was fortunate enough to meet Rick Redpath there 3 years ago. Minnesota Homerdome - saw exhibition game in '93 against the Rockies. Shea Stadium - a few times the last couple of years. Cleveland "The Jake" - once when it opened and once at the 2001 National. >From: Roger Raum >Reply-To: Roger Raum >To: Ramblings , Steve Rittenberg >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New wantlist: Ballparks >Date: 29 Apr 2003 06:25:15 -0500 >I've seen games in 33 major league parks. one minor league game. Like to >get to 40 major league parks in my lifetime. I think there are 5 new ones >I haven't seen. >On Monday, April 28, 2003 4:59 PM, Steve Rittenberg > wrote: > >After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I > >thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to > >And I decided I want to go see the rest. > > > >Here are the ones I've been to: > >Fenway Park (numerous times) > >Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) > >Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) > >RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) > >Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) > >Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) > >Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) > >Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) > >PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) > >Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks > > > >Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. > > > >Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. > > > >Steve > > > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:02:59 EDT Subject: MLB PARKS To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Celenox@aol.com Hello the MLB Ballparks Ive visited are: Shea stadium Yankee stadium Fenway park Olympic stadim Camden Yards PNC park The Vet Three Rivers Joe Robbie Stadium AND DOUBLE DAY FIELD IN COOPERSTOWN Minorleague parks Keyspan Park (Brooklyn Cyclones) Dutchess Stadium ( Hudson Valley Renegades) PNC Stadium (syracuse Chiefs) Falcon Park ( Aubern Doubledays) Richmond County Bank Ballpark at St. George (statan Island Yankees) Joseph L. Bruno Stadium (tri city valley cats) Thats all so far ROB GIOIA ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 07:24:58 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ballparks From: rdn56 Most years we try and plan our vacation to hit a stadium we haven't been to before. Here's my current list: Connie Mack Stadium---the first, and always will be the best The Vet Three Rivers Yankee Stadium Fenway ---number 3 on the list of great parks Wrigley---number 2 Memorial (Orioles) Fulton County Turner Field Pro-Players (or whatever Marlins call it) Tropicana (Tampa Bay--hmm, is that a major league or minor league park?) Municipal (Cleveland) Tiger Stadium Milwaukee County Olympic Stadium Exhibition Field (Blue Jays) Arlington (old one) Oakland Alameda Drove by, walked around, but no game: Anaheim (many times--always out there in Feb--2 miles away!) Camden Yards (maybe this year) Commisky--both of them Busch--looked inside from Arch. Bob Neill ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:02:56 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New wantlist: Ballparks From: "jmoleta30341" My list doesn't rival Roger's (yet!) but visiting Major League Ballparks has long been a hobby of mine. A buddy & I did a road trip in '96 thru the Mid-West and hit 6 games & 7 parks (including Mud Hens Field in Toledo) in 7 days! That was a blast! Anyway, here's my Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium (gone) Atlanta-Turner Field Baltimore-Camden Yards Philadelphia-Veteran's Stadium NY-Yankee Stadium NY-Shea Stadium Boston-Fenway Pahk St Louis-Busch Stadium Chicago-New Comiskey Texas-Arlington Stadium (gone) Milwaukee-County Stadium (gone) Detroit-Tiger Stadium (gone) Cleveland-The Jake SF-Candlestick Park (gone) LA-Chavez Ravine/Dodger Stadium OAK-Oakland Coliseum (think thats what they called it in the 80s) SD-Jack Murphy Stadium (I cant call it the "Q"!) FL-Pro Player Stadium* (I've seen 2 FB games there, but not baseball COL-Coors Field* (season was over, but stopped & took pics outside) I also visited many Spring Training Parks in FL from about 85-92. I don't remember all the names, but some cities that come to mind are Dunedin (Jays), Lakeland (Tigers), St Pete (Cards/Mets), Baseball City (Royals), Clearwater (Phils), Bradenton (Pirates), Port Charlotte (Rangers), West Palm (Braves/Expos), Plant City (Reds), Sarasota (White Sox), Kissimmee (Astros). I also saw the Red Sox & Twins' spring home fields, but am drawing a blank on the cities. Sadly, I've yet to attend a minor league game (Mud Hens were done when I hit Toledo in '96), but the Braves A Ball team moved to a new stadium in Rome this year, so maybe I'll finally take one in. I've also never seen dome baseball, so I need to get to Toronto or MN. I would love to road trip to some parks next summer (would go this year, but trying to save $$) as I havent done many ballpark trips in the past few years. I used to fly to NY on Memorial or Labor Day weekend when multiple East Coast teams were home, so my cousin Tommy (whom a few OBCers have met) and I could do a road trip weekend and hit Philly/Shea/Bronx and sometimes Fenway or Camden. Those were the good old days for me! Thanks for posting this great topic question! There's nothing quite like ballpark memories. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Rittenberg" wrote: > After seeing a game with Terry Dietrick at PNC Park on Saturday night, I > thought about how many ball parks (major and minor league) I've been to see. > And I decided I want to go see the rest. > Here are the ones I've been to: > Fenway Park (numerous times) > Memorial Stadium (Baltimore Orioles) > Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles) > RFK Stadium (former home of Washington Senators) > Candlestick Park (SF Giants) (with family 3 or 4 times) > Edison Stadium (Anaheim Angels) (OBC event) > Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians) (OBC event) > Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox) (OBC event) > PNC Park (Pittsburg Pirates) (OBC event) > Las Vegas and Frederick MD minor league parks > Eleven parks. Seems puny. There's lots of baseball Im missing. > Write in and let us know how many you have gone to. > Steve ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 08:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ballparks visited To: obc ramblings From: Matthew Spike's been to the following (wow, thought there'd be more): the Kingdome (first time 1979) Safeco Field (first time 2001) Jacobs Field (2001 National!) Fenway Park (first time 1999) Comiskey (for a soccer game, unfortunately) Dodgers Stadium (first time 1997?) Milwaukee County Stadium (1980?) Pawtucket, RI - AAA New Britain, CT - AA Pittsfield, MA - AA Everett, WA - A Wareham, MA - Cape Cod league Mesa, AZ - Mariners Spring Training Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Ballparks visited Date: 29 Apr 2003 09:50:18 -0700 From: "John Collins" I hope it isn't too boring, but here is my official list: Veterans Stadium, Philadelphia - first major league game at age 10 in 1987 -- saw the Schmidt era Phillies play the Dale Murphy era Braves. Wrigley Field, Chigago - summer trip with my parents in 1990, saw the Sandberg-Dawson era Cubs.. then again as a post college road-trip with friends in '98 to see the Sosa era Cubs. Turner Field, Atlanta - several times -- I think first in '98 and last in 2000. Don't remember all of the matchups, but I have seen Maddux pitch there at least twice. Also saw Kerry Wood throw heat for my Cubbies at Turner Field. Fenway Park, Boston -- another post college road trip with drinking buddies, September of 2000. Saw Ripken play briefly for Baltimore in what would be his next to last season. Nomar was hurt, and didn't play for Boston the entire time we were there. Impressed what me and my friends called a "yankee woman" shopkeeper on Yawkey Way with my knowledge of Ted Williams and Yastrzemski. She gave me a free glossy picture of Ted. Spring Training: March, 2002: Saw the Yankees play the Phillies at Legends Field in Tampa. Ultra-nice facility. My wife regognized "El Duque" as somebody she had actually seen on TV. Also saw the Devil Rays play (embarassed to say I can't remember who) at Al Lang field in St. Petersburg. Al Lang field and that entire complex was once the spring training home to the NY Yankees of the late 50's and early 60's. Yes son, Mickey Mantle played hungover on this very field!! Minor League: Charlotte O's in the early 1980's....Crockett Park in Charlotte NC which later burned. This was the team that Cal Ripken played briefly for (before I saw them), and also his brother Billy. Charlotte Knights, Knights Stadium, near Ft. Mill, SC...throughout the late 80's and early 1990's. They were (maybe still are)a AAA affiliate of the White Sox? Hickory Crawdads - LP Frans Stadium, Hickory NC. Single A affiliate of the White Sox, now the Pittsburgh Pirates. Throughout college, Winston-Salem Warthogs (formerly Spirit when Mark Grace played here in the 80's) at Ernie Shore Field, Winston-Salem. 2000-present. A historic and classic old minor league field, named after former major leaguer Ernie Shore who was from Winston. Ernie played in the 1920's and 30's and I think was at one time one of Babe Ruth's various roomates. Not that distinguished of a list yet...but I'm working on it. I will always regret that I was never able to see some of the true classics like Ebbets Field, Sportsman's Park, The Polo Grounds, Old Yankee Stadium, etc. But Wrigley and Fenway were two good additions to that list. Take care, >--- Original Message --- >From: Matthew >To: obc ramblings >Date: 4/29/03 10:13:34 AM >Spike's been to the following (wow, thought there'd be more): >the Kingdome (first time 1979) >Safeco Field (first time 2001) >Jacobs Field (2001 National!) >Fenway Park (first time 1999) >Comiskey (for a soccer game, unfortunately) >Dodgers Stadium (first time 1997?) >Milwaukee County Stadium (1980?) >Pawtucket, RI - AAA >New Britain, CT - AA >Pittsfield, MA - AA >Everett, WA - A >Wareham, MA - Cape Cod league >Mesa, AZ - Mariners Spring Training >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. >http://search.yahoo.com > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:53:02 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My memories of Rick Redpath To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com I have been away from my computer for a few days and was very upset to hear about Rick's passing. Rick and I shared notes for a few years, especially after I had a chance to meet him. I, like Jim, was at that Boston game when Rick passed out packs of '88 Topps (I think it was '88). It was also card giveaway day that day at Fenway and i remember trading Rick some of my cards for some of his. Rick and the OBC gathering was the highlight of my trip that year. I will miss Rick. ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Robert Morris Show To: OBC Ramblings From: Terry Dietrick This past weekend I attended a nice sports card show in Pittsburgh. My son and I met Steve Rittenberg there and spent the afternoon, evening, night,next morning and early afternoon with him. He should have his belly full of the Dietrick family by now. We certainly enjoyed his company. We also are enjoying some of the cards from his massive dupes box! We traded cards Saturday night until the early hours, between scenes from Pulp Fiction and the sound of someone "sawing Saturday night we watched the Buccos blow another lead, as the Dodgers won. Then we went to the "Church" for pizza and brew. I highly recommend the Robert Morris Show, which is held semi annually(April/October). Made some good buys there and put a hurtin' on the wantlist. Steve make the buy of the show, as is usual and customary. But I'll let him tell you about that. All in all it was a great 24 plus hours of OBC type enjoyment, thanks to Steve. Adam, our host John and I enjoyed Steve's company. Now it's wait until October! Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:41:10 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ballparks To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Dodger Stadium The Vet Kaufman Stadium (Royals) Fenway (my favorite with Dodger Stadium right behind it) Jack Murphy (Padres) Oakland Alameda The Bob (Diamondbacks) Doubleday Field (Saw the Marlins and Brewers play) The Big A and Edison Field Safeco (no game but private tour 4 months before it opened) Ballpark at Arlington Medford, OR A's Eugene, OR (Emeralds, i think0 Rancho Cucamuenga Quakes Las Vegas Stars/'51s Utica Blue Sox Tuscon Sidewinders Many, Many games in Arizona for spring training ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:29:53 EDT Subject: Vegas RSVPs? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Is there a list yet of people planning on going to Vegas this year? If so, please send me a copy. Thanks- (2 1/2 more weeks till Vegas 2003) ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: 1960 Mantle #350 -- possibly affordable -- on ebay Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 18:13:43 -0400 From: "John Collins" Personally, I wouldn't go much higher than the current bid on this Tipton Gem, but hey, when you need a '60 Mantle, you need a ' 60 Mantle, am I right? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item2724906288&category23837 OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: reprint? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:37:38 -0400 From: "John Collins" The front of this T-206 Cobb looks about as old as yesterday's newspaper.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item2726155901&category31719 OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Rick's bio Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:13:02 -0400 From: "John Collins" I hope I'm not out of line by doing this, but I was messing around on the OBC site today and came across Rick Redpath's bio on the page with the rest of them. As we remember Rick and the kind of person that he was, I figuredthis was worth a pass-around. Enjoy. I was born in Boston, in 1959, and I have lived in the area my whole life... No, too boring. My last name sounds like it might be Native American, but it is, in fact, Scottish, although both of my parents are Canadian... Yawn. I am a Red Sox fan. Since 1967, I have suffered and celebrated with this team. I've been elated and deflated, had my heart ripped out and stomped on, been amused and confused, had my spirits lifted and my hopes dashed, been baked by the sun, frozen by the cold, soaked by the rain, tortured by bad play after botched game after embarassing series after dismal month after disappointing season; been enthralled by brilliant fielding and amazing hitting and spectacular pitching, by selfless team spirit and magical wins; been the first to arrive and the last to leave, watched in wonder, in awe, in disbelief, in horror, in misery, in pure joy. And every year I look forward to that one beautiful day of the Spring, in early April, the brightest of all days on the calendar, when I get to pretend that none of this has ever happened before as I watch a new season begin. I was seven years old in 1967 when I became a baseball fan. That was a pretty good year to get interested in baseball, especially if you lived in Boston, and I have some wonderful old memories that will remain forever. Yaz Bread, The Carl Yastrzemski Song ("Carl Yastrzemski, Carl Yastrzemski, Carl Yastrzemski, The Man We Call Yaz, We Love Him..."), the Impossible Dream Team, Rico, Boomer, Gentleman Jim, Reggie, Elston, Hawk, Tony C, Mike, Dalton,The Stinger, Jose T., Jose S., the radio voice of Ken Coleman... And, of course, that same year, my first visit ever to Fenway Park, shrine of shrines. What a magical place! I like to think that the game would have captivated me just as much even if I had been introduced to it with the bumbling 1966 Sox team, or perhaps the inept 1965 squad, or the listless 1964 gang, or the slow-footed 1963 edition, or even the hapless 1962 team, or, say, the lackluster 1961 nine, or, then again, the bottom-of-the-barrel 1960 entourage, or ... whatever. I'm sure it wouldn't have mattered. So, that's my team and I'm sticking with them. One year later, in 1968, I discovered baseball cards. I spent many a nickel(5 cents!) on those wonderful little yellow packs of Topps cards. Early in1999, I was looking through a baseball memorabilia book and saw a color photo spread of old Topps wrappers. When I saw the one from 1968 I think my heart skipped a beat or two. This was something I had not seen in 31 years and it brought back a flood of warm memories. (Right then I knew I had to find one of those wrappers, and I have, and it remains one of my most treasured items of all time.) The 1968 Topps set, more than any other, more than anything else I can think of, actually, represents my childhood. I bought a few cards in 1969 and even fewer in 1970, and then I stopped for some reason. By then the price had gone up to 10 cents, so maybe I was protesting this exorbitant increase! Before I went away to college I put a shoebox with about 600 cards in it upin my parent's attic, where it stayed for 11 years. In 1988 I retrieved the box and spent hours looking through it, feeling like I had just gone to fantasyland. What joy! I discovered I had at least half of the 1968 set there, including an un-demolished, non-autographed-by-a-kid, never-been-folded-up and never-clothespinned-to-a-bike-wheel #177. So, after a hiatus of 20 years, I decided to start collecting 1968 cards again. I did this slowly, but steadily, for about 10 years, picking up a few cards at a time, wherever I could. In 1998, I discovered OBC on the internet, and I figured I would have to join someday. In May, 1999, I finally did, and it has felt like homeever In addition to being the year of the shoebox retrieval, 1988 was the year Igot married, to the wonderful Roberta. Our son Ian was born in 1992 and our daughter Casey was born in 1995. The four of us live happily ever after in Needham, Massachusetts, a little suburb about 12 miles west of Fenway Park. Since 1981, I have worked for a company called JSI, in Boston. When I started it was a small public health consulting firm, and over the years it has grown to be a much larger public health consulting firm, but my job has always been in software development. I now work for a group called JSI FundRaising Systems, developing software that is used by hundreds of non-profit organizations throughout the world to manage the job of raising money. When Iwas younger, I traveled a moderate amount as part of my job, and the most exotic and amazing place I ever got to visit was Kenya. I'll leave you with one more baseball story: I took my son to Fenway Park for the first time in September, 1998. We saw a very exciting game, a come-from-behind victory against the Seattle Mariners that ended with a walk-off grand slam by Nomar. WEEI radio host Ted Sarandis described this game as "one of the most compelling wins of the year." Sox broadcaster Joe Castiglione called it "a microcosm of the entire 1998 Red Sox season." And 6 year oldIan Redpath had this to say: "That was so much fun, Dad. I love baseball." Another fan has arrived, and the tradition lives on. OLD CARDBOARD !! Check out my vintage baseball card wantlist at: http://www.geocities.com/oldcardboard/index.htm ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 14:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Robert Morris Show To: OBC Ramblings From: Terry Dietrick This past weekend I attended a nice sports card show in Pittsburgh. My son and I met Steve Rittenberg there and spent the afternoon, evening, night,next morning and early afternoon with him. He should have his belly full of the Dietrick family by now. We certainly enjoyed his company. We also are enjoying some of the cards from his massive dupes box! We traded cards Saturday night until the early hours, between scenes from Pulp Fiction and the sound of someone "sawing Saturday night we watched the Buccos blow another lead, as the Dodgers won. Then we went to the "Church" for pizza and brew. I highly recommend the Robert Morris Show, which is held semi annually(April/October). Made some good buys there and put a hurtin' on the wantlist. Steve make the buy of the show, as is usual and customary. But I'll let him tell you about that. All in all it was a great 24 plus hours of OBC type enjoyment, thanks to Steve. Adam, our host John and I enjoyed Steve's company. Now it's wait until October! Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:39:25 -0400 (EDT) To: jcollins12@triad.rr.com (John Collins) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick's bio From: Originaleek@webtv.net Thank you so much for Rick's bio! I'll gladly pay any fine imposed by the group if you violated a rule (I won't do jail time, you're on your own there.) We keep what we give away! ================= Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:47:45 EDT Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Vegas RSVPs? To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com From: Topgolf@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:44:47 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vegas RSVPs? To: Wite3@aol.com V 03, as I know it... Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] Rick Ellison (5) [y] Joel Glickman (1) [n] Al Cummings (2) [n] George Hay (2) [y] David Kolenda (1)[y] Ken Morganti (1)[y] Todd Knowles(2)[n] Josh Levine(1)[n] Peter Iversen (2)[n] Geno Wagner(2)[y] Geordie Calvert (1)[y] Doug Smith (2)[y] Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] Ray Luurs (1) [n] Mike Hair (2)[y] If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let me know number for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect please let me know. THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: FRIDAY, MAY 16 mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte sometime -- drawing for teams for golf when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at the ballpark on Fuerte Ct. as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a pool when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber so far we can't find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain Craps (George Hay) ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep before golf, and Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) SATURDAY, MAY 17 Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the restaurant was closed" Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not playing are welcome) meet at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and Doctors notes will be examined and stokes will be given to those who merit them. Hint: start practicing holding your breathe now, A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf Championship" About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving in Vegas--- the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced (looking at ESPN zone in NY NY) When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf Extravaganza. Play golf with a real zombie! Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures me that he will bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room service and have very expensive champagne sent to the room. Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since getting to SUNDAY, MAY 18 Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour this year. Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like we eat alot... VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie --expect to have your wantlist hit - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table --buy the 10 --make sure the craps table is "balanced" --find a shooter -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest -- Bet on the don't pass line -- Get directions from Margaret --Get Directions from Al --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course --Swing at the first pitch --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base --Play with matches ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 02:48:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Gibraltar Card Show Sunday May 4 From: "mikesportsfan" Ft. Washington is too far away, so I will try and go to the Gibraltar show this weekend. I plan on going Sunday, since my HOM, Willie Horton is going to be signing free autographs from 12-2. Maybe he will even sign for me this time. For those unaware, Willie has seen me so often, he thinks I am a dealer, and usually refuses to sign for me. If anyone else is planning on going LMK. FYI, Mickey Stanley is also signing from 2-4 but his autographs will cost $5 each. They will have cards and photos, etc for sale. Photos usually run $4 - 5 Mike Rich ================= To: "OBC Ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Rick's bio Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:54:32 -0600 From: "Todd Knowles" Thanks for putting Rick's bio up. Rick and I have a lot in common; great kids, undying devotion to the Red Sox through the ups and downs. The last paragraph really hit home. Last week, as my 9 year old son Brandon warmed up for his Little League pitching debut, he said to me, "Dad, I love By the way, Brandon pitched 2 no-hit innings, striking out 5. He also walked 8, but who's counting :) ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 03:48:28 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Vegas RSVPs? From: "alcattle" Now if we could get a wantlist out of some people.....(George!) we could pull cards for all our friends, otherwise, I guess we should give them all to Rick Big Al in Seattle --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, topgolf@a... wrote: > > V 03, as I know it... > > > > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > > > > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > > Al Cummings (2) [n] > > George Hay (2) [y] > > David Kolenda (1)[y] > > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > > Josh Levine(1)[n] > > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > > Doug Smith (2)[y] > > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > > Mike Hair (2)[y] > > > > If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let me > > number for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect please let me > > know. > > > > THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: > > > > FRIDAY, MAY 16 > > mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte > > sometime -- drawing for teams for golf > > when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat > > a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at the ballpark > > on Fuerte Ct. > > as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a > > when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber so far we > > can't find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain Craps > > Hay) > > ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep before golf, > > and Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) > > > > SATURDAY, MAY 17 > > Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the restaurant > > closed" Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not playing are > > welcome) meet at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and Doctors notes > > will be examined and stokes will be given to those who merit them. Hint: > > start practicing holding your breathe now, > > A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf > > Championship" > > > > About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving in Vegas--- > > the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced (looking at ESPN > > zone in NY NY) > > > > When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf > > Play golf with a real zombie! > > > > Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures me that he > > will bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room service and > > have very expensive champagne sent to the room. > > > > Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since getting to > > Vegas. > > > > > > SUNDAY, MAY 18 > > > > Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour this year. > > > > Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like we > > alot... > > > > > > VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS > > > > DO...... > > > > --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie > > --expect to have your wantlist hit > > - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table > > --buy the 10 > > --make sure the craps table is "balanced" > > --find a shooter > > > > DON... > > -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest > > -- Bet on the don't pass line > > -- Get directions from Margaret > > --Get Directions from Al > > --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course > > --Swing at the first pitch > > --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base > > --Play with matches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > V 03, as I know it... > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > Al Cummings (2) [n] > George Hay (2) [y] > David Kolenda (1)[y] > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > Josh Levine(1)[n] > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > Doug Smith (2)[y] > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > Mike Hair (2)[y] > If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let me know number > for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect please let me > THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: > FRIDAY, MAY 16 > mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte > sometime -- drawing for teams for golf > when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat > a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at the > on Fuerte Ct. > as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a pool > when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber so far we can't > find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain Craps (George > ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep before golf, and > Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) > SATURDAY, MAY 17 > Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the restaurant was closed" > Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not playing are welcome) meet > at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and Doctors notes will be > and stokes will be given to those who merit them. Hint: start > holding your breathe now, > A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf > About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving in > the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced (looking at ESPN zone > in NY NY) > When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf > Play golf with a real zombie! > Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures me that he will > bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room service and have very > expensive champagne sent to the room. > Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since getting to > Vegas. > SUNDAY, MAY 18 > Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour this > Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like we eat alot... > VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS > DO...... > --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie > --expect to have your wantlist hit > - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table > --buy the 10 > --make sure the craps table is "balanced" > --find a shooter > DON... > -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest > -- Bet on the don't pass line > -- Get directions from Margaret > --Get Directions from Al > --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course > --Swing at the first pitch > --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base > --Play with matches ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 03:51:52 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Gibraltar Card Show Sunday May 4 From: "alcattle" Mike, try to approach him and tell/show his HOM page and how you are one of is biggest fans and you feel it is a sin to sell things that are so valuable. Hmm Too thick? Good Luck Big Al in Seattle --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "mikesportsfan" wrote: > Ft. Washington is too far away, so I will try and go to the > show this weekend. I plan on going Sunday, since my HOM, Willie > Horton is going to be signing free autographs from 12-2. Maybe he > will even sign for me this time. For those unaware, Willie has > me so often, he thinks I am a dealer, and usually refuses to sign > me. If anyone else is planning on going LMK. FYI, Mickey Stanley > also signing from 2-4 but his autographs will cost $5 each. They > will have cards and photos, etc for sale. Photos usually run $4 - > each. > Mike Rich ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My memories of Rick Redpath Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:19:23 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" I was at the game that Josh is talking about. I got a pack of '88 topps from Rick that day, and, got a hit in it! There was an Eddie Murray record breaker in the'88 set, and unknown to me at the time, there was a 2nd version of the card with some text in a box on the front... As an oriole fan, and a continuing collector of topps, this was a double bonus! I agree with Josh, Rick passing out those silly packs was alot of fun, and a great idea for the game. My son William was with us, and he still has someof cards from the giveaway. OBC is the best. We will all miss you Rick. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wite3@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] My memories of Rick Redpath I have been away from my computer for a few days and was very upset to hear about Rick's passing. Rick and I shared notes for a few years, especially after I had a chance to meet him. I, like Jim, was at that Boston game when Rick passed out packs of '88 Topps (I think it was '88). It was also card giveaway day that day at Fenway and i remember trading Rick some of my cards for some of his. Rick and the OBC gathering was the highlight of my trip that year. I will miss Rick. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 01:04:09 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Vegas RSVPs? To: Topgolf@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: XTrJmx@aol.com Where's Phil??? (Sorry... couldn't resist ) ...Jim (Wishin' he was going...) In a message dated 4/29/03 7:48:56 PM, topgolf@aol.com writes: > V 03, as I know it... > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > Al Cummings (2) [n] > George Hay (2) [y] > David Kolenda (1)[y] > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > Josh Levine(1)[n] > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > Doug Smith (2)[y] > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > Mike Hair (2)[y] >> ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:18:14 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New wantlist: Ballparks From: "rayluurs" Ok lets see if i can add to the list Growing up in South Dakota I played baseball in most of the old Northern league parks so i guess i can say i saw games there as i usually sat. Souix Falls Rapid City Cobb Stadium (Billings, Montana) Midway Stadium (St. Paul Saints) Metrotpolitian Stadium (Minnesota Twins when i saw them play it was argued wether this was major or minor league baseball) Hubert H Humphrey Metro Dome (Minnesota Twins) Pro Player Stadium (Florida Marlins) SABR convention Miller Park (Milwaukee Brewers) SABR convention Fenway Park (Boston Red Sox) SABR conventions Coors Field (Colorado Rockies) This summer since Denver host the SABR convention I will be adding the triple A team in Colorado Springs ================= Subject: In memory of Rick Redpath... Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:19:37 -0400 To: From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" News of Rick's death hit me hard. In his emails, one could sense what awonderful and compassionate human being he must have been. His soul destined for greater things! I'll always remember Rick being one of the first, to rally the troops, around what would become the Lynn Miller project. The59 set (which was his favorite), will forever in my mind be etched and associated with Rick - especially the '59 Cepeda. You see, during my "modular-nine" auction give-away (where a participant could pick 3 cards from my available's), he only requested one card, a '59 Cepeda, passing-up other starcards (including a '59 Maris - which was one of his many needs at the time). And, I will always hold-dear, the time he send me the last four cards Ineeded to complete my '59 set. Cards, which he obviously pulled from his own binder. But hey, that was the kind of man he was. Hey buddy, "your emails, friendship, and wonderful sense of humor will be greatly missed." My condolences to Roberta, Ian and Casey. What a special husband and father they now have as a guardian angel. I desperately started searching my old archive's, by chance, had I savedany of Rick's old emails??? Incredibly and to my great satisfaction, I found one. It was in reference to a ramble I started, asking OBCers to describe their collecting saga over the years. I've been re-reading it several times these past few days, not for its content, but in a sense, it captureda moment in time. A moment when, if so incline, one could email " rredpath@hotmail.com" and receive a friendly reply. Now, truth be told, through the years, I only emailed Rick a handful of times. But somehow, somewhere in the back of my consciousness, I knew the world was a better place, simplybecause Rick's email was only a few mouse clicks away. Same is true for all the other OBCers, it's comforting to know, that Lynn Miller, KenM, Geno,Guru, Rittenberg, Mac, Howard, Big Al, Goto.....JUST TO NAME a few, are all there in cyberspace, sorta' as virtual brothers. All with a common interest and a common bound, which can best be described as "refusing to allow the kid inside of us to disappear (as others regrettably allow). You see, to me, OBC is way beyond cards! So, I'm saddened tonight for both OBC as well as for myself. Our group loss a small but important part of itself a few days ago. On a personal level, the world seems a little bit more lonely today, my soul is grieving,for I no longer have the luxury of sending an email to "rredpath@hotmail.com." -a Lovely Day it is not, Iggy... For prosperity, here is Rick's old reply, to my long ago request for OBCers"collecting saga". "Good night, and see you tomorrow as well Rick." -----Original Message----- From: Rick Redpath [mailto:rredpath@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:10 PM To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anybody Else Want to Join In? Okay, I'm in. I don't think I could ever say no to any idea that Iggy has now. :-) I am a 3 phase guy, the basic scenario that many of us have probably Phase 1: 1968-1970 (The Happy Kid Phase) Most of my action during this brief period was concentrated in that magical year, 1968. I bought lots and lots of those beautiful 5 cent packs with the beautiful yellow wrapper -- at the drugstore, the news stand, the candy store, the convenience store -- wherever I could. I bought some packs in 1969 and only a few in 1970, probably due to the price increase when they went up to a dime. Many of these cards were thrown into a shoebox that will play a prominent role in Phase 2. I practiced my autograph on lots of these cards, and I hope Jeff Sackmann still has the 1969 Mel Stottlemyre that I signed, informally, "Mel". Speaking of those 1968 wax packs, one of the absolutely coolest things I have in my treasure collection is a re-wrapped pack that I made from a nice '68 wrapper, a slab of gum and some original cards. If you haven't made one of these to recreate your childhood, I highly recommend it! Phase 2: 1988-1998 (The Rediscovery) Yes, there's quite a gap there between 1970 and 1988. Junior High, High School, College, Job, Red Sox games, Girlfriend, Engagement... that kind of stuff was happening. And then, one day... I took the shoebox out of the attic in my parent's house when I was 28 years old. This was also the year I got married. I discovered an unmolested (and unautographed) Nolan Ryan rookie card in the box, along with about half the '68 set, and the quest began to complete it. At a few card shops and a few card shows I managed to scrounge up most of the cards I needed to finish the 1968 set. This is over a 10 year period! I also invested heavily in 1988 Topps cards during that year when I rediscovered the wonder of cardboard, buying many more packs than I care to admit to. That set may hold the distinction of being about the most worthless set ever produced in the history of Topps cards. But it's BIG! You might be able to get a good price from a scrap paper dealer if you ever wanted to unload that one... Phase 3: 1999 - Forever (The Happy Adult Phase) You can guess what I discovered in 1999... OBC and eBay. Actually, I think I found OBC in 1998, but didn't get around to joining until the next year. I pretty quickly liquidated all the 1968 dupes and the few 1969 and 1970 cards that I had by sending them out in small packages to as many guys as I could. At this time in my life (1999) I had never owned a baseball card from the '50s. I'm not sure I had even SEEN many of them. I have now :-) In addition to eBay and OBC I have picked up a few cards from my all time favorite card store, Bay State Coin (as seen in Bob Donaldson's report). This store is still a treasure for commons and old junk, and I even bought something out of the display case last year - my one and only T204 Ramly card. This store is part pawn shop, part coin store, part baseball card and other stuff store and completely a nut house at all times. Worth the trip! I spend most of my time scrounging eBay for star cards at 2% of high book value. And that's only if they're good enough for the demanding staff of the Tipton Mint... You can probably guess that my collection is growing slowly, but I'm not in a big hurry right now. If it wasn't 11:08 I could probably think of something else to say but I suppose that will have to do for now. Good night, and see you tomorrow. - Rick ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:21:37 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Rookie Questions From: "rayluurs" When I arrive in Las Vegas, Should I rent a car or take the shuttle to the hotel. I guess what I am asking is there enough transportation I could share a ride with to events and help pay for the expenses or should I get my own car because of different time arrivals etc. ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:00:58 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Digest Number 728 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com In a message dated 4/30/03 10:40:03 AM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: << When I arrive in Las Vegas, Should I rent a car or take the shuttle to the hotel. I guess what I am asking is there enough transportation I could share a ride with to events and help pay for the expenses or should I get my own car because of different time arrivals etc. >> There's usually plenty of people there with transportation to get everyone to and from all the eVents, so a rental car is probably not necessary. Just be aware that if you hitch a ride with St. Al, you may see a lot more of Vegas (and Nevada and possibly Utah) than the rest of us. ;-) Ken M ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:42:45 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Vegas RSVPs? From: "Brett Domue" I will be attending for the first time. I'll be arriving in Vegas at 9:54 PM on Thursday, and leaving on Monday evening. Can anyone provide transport, and, more important, does anyone have spare space in a room for one/all nights? Please let me know so I can book a room/car if necessary. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, topgolf@a... wrote: > > V 03, as I know it... > > > > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > > > > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > > Al Cummings (2) [n] > > George Hay (2) [y] > > David Kolenda (1)[y] > > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > > Josh Levine(1)[n] > > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > > Doug Smith (2)[y] > > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > > Mike Hair (2)[y] > > > > If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let me > > number for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect please let me > > know. > > > > THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: > > > > FRIDAY, MAY 16 > > mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte > > sometime -- drawing for teams for golf > > when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat > > a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at the ballpark > > on Fuerte Ct. > > as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a > > when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber so far we > > can't find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain Craps > > Hay) > > ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep before golf, > > and Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) > > > > SATURDAY, MAY 17 > > Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the restaurant > > closed" Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not playing are > > welcome) meet at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and Doctors notes > > will be examined and stokes will be given to those who merit them. Hint: > > start practicing holding your breathe now, > > A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf > > Championship" > > > > About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving in Vegas--- > > the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced (looking at ESPN > > zone in NY NY) > > > > When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf > > Play golf with a real zombie! > > > > Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures me that he > > will bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room service and > > have very expensive champagne sent to the room. > > > > Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since getting to > > Vegas. > > > > > > SUNDAY, MAY 18 > > > > Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour this year. > > > > Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like we > > alot... > > > > > > VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS > > > > DO...... > > > > --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie > > --expect to have your wantlist hit > > - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table > > --buy the 10 > > --make sure the craps table is "balanced" > > --find a shooter > > > > DON... > > -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest > > -- Bet on the don't pass line > > -- Get directions from Margaret > > --Get Directions from Al > > --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course > > --Swing at the first pitch > > --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base > > --Play with matches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > V 03, as I know it... > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > Al Cummings (2) [n] > George Hay (2) [y] > David Kolenda (1)[y] > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > Josh Levine(1)[n] > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > Doug Smith (2)[y] > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > Mike Hair (2)[y] > If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let me know number > for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect please let me > THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: > FRIDAY, MAY 16 > mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte > sometime -- drawing for teams for golf > when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat > a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at the > on Fuerte Ct. > as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a pool > when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber so far we can't > find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain Craps (George > ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep before golf, and > Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) > SATURDAY, MAY 17 > Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the restaurant was closed" > Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not playing are welcome) meet > at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and Doctors notes will be > and stokes will be given to those who merit them. Hint: start > holding your breathe now, > A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf > About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving in > the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced (looking at ESPN zone > in NY NY) > When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf > Play golf with a real zombie! > Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures me that he will > bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room service and have very > expensive champagne sent to the room. > Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since getting to > Vegas. > SUNDAY, MAY 18 > Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour this > Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like we eat alot... > VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS > DO...... > --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie > --expect to have your wantlist hit > - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table > --buy the 10 > --make sure the craps table is "balanced" > --find a shooter > DON... > -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest > -- Bet on the don't pass line > -- Get directions from Margaret > --Get Directions from Al > --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course > --Swing at the first pitch > --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base > --Play with matches ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:35:23 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [OBC-Ramblings] Vegas RSVPs? From: "alcattle" Brett, et all, I will have a rental car and can pick up and deliver any OBC'er needing a ride. OK ,before all you comedians start up, I have a fool proof plan for meeting people this year. I will be there Thursday afternoon and leaving Tuesday. I can't help anyone with rooms as I will have my lovely wife with me. Please reply if you want Al's Taxi and I will work out the details. Big Al in Seattle and soon in Las Wages --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, "Brett Domue" > All, > I will be attending for the first time. > I'll be arriving in Vegas at 9:54 PM on Thursday, and leaving on > Monday evening. > Can anyone provide transport, and, more important, does anyone have > spare space in a room for one/all nights? Please let me know so I > can book a room/car if necessary. > Regards, > Brett > --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, topgolf@a... wrote: > > > > > > > V 03, as I know it... > > > > > > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > > > > > > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > > > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > > > Al Cummings (2) [n] > > > George Hay (2) [y] > > > David Kolenda (1)[y] > > > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > > > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > > > Josh Levine(1)[n] > > > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > > > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > > > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > > > Doug Smith (2)[y] > > > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > > > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > > > Mike Hair (2)[y] > > > > > > If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let > know > > > number for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect > let me > > > know. > > > > > > THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: > > > > > > FRIDAY, MAY 16 > > > mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte > > > sometime -- drawing for teams for golf > > > when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat > > > a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at > the ballpark > > > on Fuerte Ct. > > > as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a > pool > > > when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber > far we > > > can't find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain > (George > > > Hay) > > > ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep > before golf, > > > and Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) > > > > > > SATURDAY, MAY 17 > > > Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the > was > > > closed" Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not > playing are > > > welcome) meet at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and > Doctors notes > > > will be examined and stokes will be given to those who merit > them. Hint: > > > start practicing holding your breathe now, > > > A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf > > > Championship" > > > > > > About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving > in Vegas--- > > > the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced > at ESPN > > > zone in NY NY) > > > > > > When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf > Extravaganza. > > > Play golf with a real zombie! > > > > > > Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures > that he > > > will bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room > service and > > > have very expensive champagne sent to the room. > > > > > > Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since > getting to > > > Vegas. > > > > > > > > > SUNDAY, MAY 18 > > > > > > Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour > this year. > > > > > > Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like > eat > > > alot... > > > > > > > > > VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS > > > > > > DO...... > > > > > > --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie > > > --expect to have your wantlist hit > > > - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table > > > --buy the 10 > > > --make sure the craps table is "balanced" > > > --find a shooter > > > > > > DON... > > > -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest > > > -- Bet on the don't pass line > > > -- Get directions from Margaret > > > --Get Directions from Al > > > --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course > > > --Swing at the first pitch > > > --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base > > > --Play with matches > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > V 03, as I know it... > > > > Those attending (number for ribfest) [golf y/n] > > > > Rick Ellison (5) [y] > > Joel Glickman (1) [n] > > Al Cummings (2) [n] > > George Hay (2) [y] > > David Kolenda (1)[y] > > Ken Morganti (1)[y] > > Todd Knowles(2)[n] > > Josh Levine(1)[n] > > Peter Iversen (2)[n] > > Geno Wagner(2)[y] > > Geordie Calvert (1)[y] > > Doug Smith (2)[y] > > Steve Rittenberg (1)[y] > > Ray Luurs (1) [n] > > Mike Hair (2)[y] > > > > If I have forgotten anybody (are you out there Rex?) plea let me > know number > > for ribs and golf. If the info above is incorrect please let me > know. > > > > THE OFFICIAL (AS IT GETS) AGENDA FOR VEGAS 03: > > > > FRIDAY, MAY 16 > > mid to late afternoon --join the party on Fuerte > > sometime -- drawing for teams for golf > > when we are hungry -- Ribfest, must be present to eat > > a bit later, but before dark -- Half Rubber and wiffle ball at > ballpark > > on Fuerte Ct. > > as soon as he gets home-- Neighbor Joe informs us that he has a > > when we can't see anymore, or when Peter hits the half rubber so > far we can't > > find it--an annual trip to Railroad Pass with Captain Craps > Hay) > > ..and then... it may be to late to get any meaningful sleep > golf, and > > Vegas IS open all night (See Ken Morganti details) > > > > SATURDAY, MAY 17 > > Pretty Early-- The "Almost annual because one year the restaurant > was closed" > > Excuse Breakfast. Those playing golf (and those not playing are > welcome) meet > > at Tee Shots for breakfast. X-rays, MRIs and Doctors notes will > examined > > and stokes will be given to those who merit them. Hint: start > practicing > > holding your breathe now, > > A bit later, but still early- "the Eighth First Annual OBC Golf > Championship" > > > > About Noon, or when St. Al is either waking up or just arriving > Vegas--- > > the "Holy Cow Memorial Lunch . Location to be announced (looking > ESPN zone > > in NY NY) > > > > When we have a belly full --- The Ken Morganti Miniature Golf > Extravaganza. > > Play golf with a real zombie! > > > > Evening -- Rick and Margret's Anniversary Party. Rick assures me > that he will > > bring a number of credit cards so that we can call room service > have very > > expensive champagne sent to the room. > > > > Later... Perhaps Morganti will sleep for the first time since > getting to > > Vegas. > > > > > > SUNDAY, MAY 18 > > > > Not quite so early... Card shopping,,, we may have a mini tour > year. > > > > Around noon...Closing Ceremonies at Hooter. Boy it seems like we > eat alot... > > > > > > VEGAS DOS AND DON'TS > > > > DO...... > > > > --wear comfortable socks if you are a rookie > > --expect to have your wantlist hit > > - sit next to David Kolenda at the Blackjack table > > --buy the 10 > > --make sure the craps table is "balanced" > > --find a shooter > > > > DON... > > -- Let Morganti get in front of you at the ribfest > > -- Bet on the don't pass line > > -- Get directions from Margaret > > --Get Directions from Al > > --Stand to the right of Joel on the golf course > > --Swing at the first pitch > > --Make the 1st or 3rd out at 3rd base > > --Play with matches ================= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 22:46:14 EDT Subject: V03: For those of you scoring at home... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com Changes to the ever changing "Official as it Gets" agenda: Geno and Todd will be coming solo, but not necessarily together. Ray and Todd will be playing golf. St. Al will play shortstop and bat in the pitcher's spot. ================= Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 03:42:39 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: V03: For those of you scoring at home... From: "alcattle" When do the unofficial odds for the Championship get posted, I want to get a bet down before Rick is pulled off the board. Who will be the lucky wearer of the rookie shoes? The true V'xx rookie, Ray or is it a rookie golfer, like Todd? Also there was talk of the official granddaugher of V'03 would have red shoes. I guess some things will have to wait for them to happen. Big Al in Seattle Also I am better at 3rd, arm is ok but I have no range. --- In OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, topgolf@a... wrote: > Changes to the ever changing "Official as it Gets" agenda: > Geno and Todd will be coming solo, but not necessarily together. > Ray and Todd will be playing golf. > St. Al will play shortstop and bat in the pitcher's spot. ================= Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 03:55:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: End of an Era From: "alcattle" Today was the last official day for U-trading, the NW's favorite OBC card store. He has been around for about 15 years best I can tell and is tired of the grind. He is taking a vacation and then see what happens, shows, Ebay, maybe a new smaller store. Mike, you will be missed but my wallet thanks you. Big Al in Seattle ================= Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 00:05:35 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: V03: For those of you scoring at home... To: alcattle@earthlink.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com I can't beleive you volunteered to run a taxi service! Didn't I have help you find your wife in the airport parking lot last year? Didn't people that were going to ride with you have to find other transportation? What kind of taxi service will this be? Will we ever see the people that actually take you up on this? Do you have a backup plan? ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: V03: For those of you scoring at home... Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 23:41:53 -0700 From: "AL Cummings" I offered to give any member who needs transportation a ride. It is the least I can do. I have come up with a fool proof plan this year. It was tough as the fools keep getting better all the time. I guess everyone will have to wait and see if I mess up this year. Big Al in Seattle ----- Original Message ----- From: tply@aol.com To: alcattle@earthlink.net ; OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: V03: For those of you scoring at home... I can't beleive you volunteered to run a taxi service! Didn't I have helpyou find your wife in the airport parking lot last year? Didn't people that were going to ride with you have to find other transportation? What kind of taxi service will this be? Will we ever see the people that actually take you up on this? Do you have a backup plan? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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