================= Date: 1 Aug 2001 07:24:40 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Poll results for OBC-Ramblings The following OBC-Ramblings poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: How many HRs do you predict Barry Bonds will finish the regular season with in 2001? CHOICES AND RESULTS - 48-, 0 votes, 0.00% - 49, 0 votes, 0.00% - 50, 0 votes, 0.00% - 51, 0 votes, 0.00% - 52, 0 votes, 0.00% - 53, 0 votes, 0.00% - 54, 0 votes, 0.00% - 55, 2 votes, 15.38% - 56, 2 votes, 15.38% - 57, 2 votes, 15.38% - 58, 2 votes, 15.38% - 59, 0 votes, 0.00% - 60, 1 votes, 7.69% - 61, 0 votes, 0.00% - 62, 0 votes, 0.00% - 63, 2 votes, 15.38% - 64, 1 votes, 7.69% - 65, 0 votes, 0.00% - 66, 1 votes, 7.69% - 67, 0 votes, 0.00% - 68, 0 votes, 0.00% - 69, 0 votes, 0.00% - 70, 0 votes, 0.00% - 71, 0 votes, 0.00% - 72+, 0 votes, 0.00% INDIVIDUAL VOTES - 48- - 49 - 50 - 51 - 52 - 53 - 54 - 55 - grains@dccnet.com - tknowles@mocc.com - 56 - mattglidden@mediaone.net - talbot1@home.com - 57 - bobs7714@aol.com - KEVINM38@aol.com - 58 - boreed@hotmail.com - debrick@onemain.com - 59 - 60 - MatShirley@aol.com - 61 - 62 - 63 - keithsummers@webtv.net - dan@iamdanaustin.com - 64 - bdangelo@aol.com - 65 - 66 - familytoad@harborside.com - 67 - 68 - 69 - 70 - 71 - 72+ For more information about this group, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/ ================= Date: 1 Aug 2001 09:07:26 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: New poll for OBC-Ramblings Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the OBC-Ramblings group: Your 2 favorite current NL teams are: o Astros o Reds o Brewers o Phillies o Cubs o Braves o Pirates o Dodgers o Expos o Cardinals o Rockies o Marlins o Giants o Padres o Mets o Diamond Backs To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/polls Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. ================= To: Subject: Fantasy Help Needed Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:42:51 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" In our league we use only the AL. If your player is traded or signs with an NL team, you are SOL...... no compensation whatsoever. I am thinking about trading for Tony Batista or Ben Grieve. Does anyone know their contract status? Does anyone know how to look that info up somewhere on the web? ================= To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, "'OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com'" , "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Iggy's 3rd-year anniversery Sale.... Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:24:47 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Please forgive me for posting this 3 times, but I wanted to reach as many OBCers as possible. It won't happen again... Howdy Gents, To celebrate the conclusion of my 3rd year with OBC. Here is an OBC give-away auction. Condition conscience collectors need not apply for a bidder number. Mainly Gd to Vg- with creases, rounded corners, etc, etc.... Five asterisks, means this card is a true "Tipton" special and will certainly stand-out in any collection... Rules (please read carefully): A) All bidders must get a certified bidder number (which will be your name, or if you wish to remain anonymous a simple nickname will do). But please, only use the nickname option if you had a prior run-in with me. B) Place your bid along with a valid lot number and a small description of the item you are bidding on. Bidding starts at $0 and will end at $0, only exception is if Topps 1962 Baseball Bucks are used. C) If I owe you some cards please make a note of it with your bid. That will change your status from that of a "simple bidder" to the more prestigious "VIP bidder". D) Please note, that replies to any emails will be non-existent, but feel free to ask any questions. E) Refer to my PAYPAL feedback for any doubts you might have about my F) Updates might be made daily, but I reserve the right to have no updates. But, if no updates are made, please see my policy on questions or inquires (Rule "D"). G). Monopoly money can be freely substituted for cash. H) All sales are final! Sorry, but no return on these. NO EXCEPTIONS! I) Auction starts today and will have no end date (depending on response and my overall disposition, I might be adding more lots as we go). Could take a day or a couple of years (you never know with me). Cards were available for viewing last Saturday via a web-cam at my house by appointment only. My apologies if you didn't receive a notice. Lots will be reserve on a first come first serve basis, as well as a second come first serve basis and if necessary a third come first serve basis (if I receive 2 or more bids on the same lot, please refer to the OBC manual page #094, subtext 5, paragraph 3, for further instructions). Although, I might use some sort of LOTTO system to determine the winner and if that fails, then we will use the old but reliable astrology charts. Please be aware that I reserve the right to change the rules as we go. Please have your credit cards handy... Now let the bidding begin and don't be shy, I accept lay-away.... Good luck! Lot# YR DESC. 001 1956 Jackie Robinson #030 (slight writing on the front plus paper missing on the front by face) 002 1956 Schoendienst #165 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 (#'s 079, 115, 243, 259) 005 1958 Roseboro RC #042 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 025 1958 Aaron A/S #488 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #447 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 042 1960 Mathews #420 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 050 1961 Ruth #401 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 073 1962 Maris #313 (*****) 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 090 1963 Musial #250 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1965 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 104 1965 Berra #470 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 121 1966 Niekro #456 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 139 1967 Rose #430 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 164 1970 Carlton OPC #220 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 from the 3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side 167 1971 Marical #325 168 1971 Brock #625 169 1972 Aaron #299 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:54:34 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I thought we were automatically enrolled in all of the yahoo groups. I am not in the polls one. How do I sign up? Mike Rich ================= Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:56:27 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Changing wantlist From: mikesportsfan@aol.com I got together witha buddy of mine recently. Like most of you I guess, time makes it difficult to see your friends as often as you'd like. He moved a couple of years ago from 20 minutes away to 1 1/2 hour. We now only see each other a few times a year. Even fewer when it is just the guys, and even less often the 2 of us, so that we can talk cards. Rocky and I met in college, when I walked into class one day and saw him reading SCD (Sports Collectors Digest for those that are unaware). We quickly became buddies and I stood up at his wedding about 12 years ago. We drove to the National in Chicago in 1983, so you know this goes back a ways. Rocky and I got together to go to Gibraltar, which some of you may have heard of. It is considered one of the larger ongoing shows and occurs almost every month. I rarely go, as the dealers seem to be the same ones over and over again. I go about twice a year. I was able to spend money and fill in a few holes. Until joining OBC, I kept a cople of page wantlist that I would take copies of to shows and give to potential traders or mail out whenever I traded through the mail. (Note the OBC website actually cut down my postage expense since I no longer include my wantlists when I mail out cards). Rocky had a copy of a 1999 wantlist of mine, which was the reason for this ramble. Some of the sets listed on the 1999 wantlsit are not on my OBC site, as being UV, usually an oddball near set I picked up at an auction missing a few cards, more than my actively pursuing the sets. However, there was something like 17 sets that I had completed since 1999 and a number of others that I made serious dents in. Of course some sets did not move. I still need the same 3 1971-72 Fleer Globetrotter cards I did 2 years ago. I found all 3 at the National but the guy wanted $5 each. I offered $3 each and he said no. I said no and the cards remain on the list. Can you imagine that I would not pay the extra $6 to complete a set I have been working on for years, with no progress in over 2 years? Then there are the sets that have been added to the list in the last couple of years. I do not know if it is because of OBC, or the fact that the sets I am owrking on are so hard to hit, but my wantlist is longer now than it has ever been. I am even seriously thinking of adding a couple of prewar sets to the lists. A review of my wantlists discloses that I need less than 500 Bowman BB, 310 Topps BB 1951-1992 (not counting 1975, which I need the regular size set or variations), 4 1960 Leaf, 5 1961 (Birthyear) Nu- Card Scoops, under 60 Post BB 1961-63, only variations in Kellogg's and have made progress on lots of the other oddball and insert sets. WIth the advent of OPCC, I am down to 1043 pre-1980 OPC BB. Tremendous strides taken in this area in the last couple of years. I only need 68 1950 Topps FB to complete pre-1990, 56 Bowman FB and have completed Fleer & Philadelphia. Weak in the 1948-49 Leaf FB, although 1948 low numbers are complete. Mainly need inserts, oddballs and 1935 National Chicle FB. Basketball regular issues are done through 1980, including 1948 Bowman, 1959 Topps & 1962 Fleer. Hockey is my weak spot, but I need 125 Topps pre-1985, and except for 1974-5 & 1976-7, only need 80 OPC hockey pre 1985. In May, I finished my first Parkhurst set and am down to 3 to finish my 2nd Parkhurst set. Also have over half of the York cards. I love Coke caps, especially FB. Have not made as much progress on these the last couple of years. It seems like I will have to concentrate on the coke caps, publications and prewar, if I wish to continue to add to the collection. I know some guys build dupe sets, (I do also if I am close to it) but I do not set out to get dupe sets. I would rather get something I do not already have. Mike Rich ================= To: Subject: Brooklyn Cyclones Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:54:21 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" Last month I attended a Brooklyn Cyclones game at Coney Island. The Cyclones are a Class A rookie league affiliate of the NY Mets. The park was awesome, right up against the water and the Coney Island Amusement Park. It was great to be at a Baseball game in Brooklyn! I grabbed a handful of schedules so if anyone wants one LMK! ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: Iggy's 3rd-year anniversery Sale.... Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:02:52 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Well, so far, so good, "phase one" is going a little better then expected. I've tediously noted all bids and will soon enter into phase 2 (but in all honesty, I'm not sure what that is yet?). We certainly, have some funny characters out there, with some very creative bids. Although, I'm still not really sure how it is that I now owe Howard Morgan .25 cents? By the way, please note that the buttering-up of your host, has certainly already scored a few points with this auctioneer. Only one set-back. I'm a bit disappionted that out of 140 plus members, only 31 have responded so far. Oh well, I can only assume that they were the lucky ones who got a chance to preview the cards. Hopefully, the shy ones will come out of the woods soon enough. Remember, it is not too late, some lots are still available for the taking. But be warn, if I have to lower the minimum bids to increase participation, well so be it. So far, Lot #00051 is red hot with an amazing 14 bids. I'm not sure how I am going to settle this, but your host will certainly try to do this without any blood being involved. So fear not! Hmmm, I do have a swiss army knife blade, but how does one evenly cut-up a 61 Berra into 14 different pieces. Well, gotta run, I have some complicated siphering to do. Lets see, knot + knot = two knots, carry over the two....... Lot# YR DESC. 001 1956 Jackie Robinson #030 002 1956 Schoendienst #165 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 005 1958 Roseboro RC #042 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 025 1958 Aaron A/S #488 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #447 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 042 1960 Mathews #420 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 050 1961 Ruth #401 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 073 1962 Maris #313 (*****) 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 090 1963 Musial #250 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1965 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 104 1965 Berra #470 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 121 1966 Niekro #456 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 139 1967 Rose #430 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 164 1970 Carlton OPC #220 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards 167 1971 Marichal #325 168 1971 Brock #625 169 1972 Aaron #299 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Rosemont SportsFest To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Ron Perry I'm planning to attend the Rosemont SportsFest on Saturday. It's sort of a combination weekend in Chicago, visit some relatives, go to the card show, go to the card show kind of weekend. If anyone else will be there, let me know, any maybe we can run into each other. I'll be wearing the maroon version OBC hat. Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ================= Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 21:31:55 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Sportsfest From: Michael Wierzbicki Hi, everyone! Like Ron Perry, I will be attending Sportsfest in Chicago on Saturday. Is anyone else going to be there on Saturday? Any chance of meeting Mike WIerzbicki ================= Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:16:15 EDT Subject: Semi-official OBC anniversiary To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: txpoobah@aol.com Just for the record OBC came about November 26, 1991 (my birthday is as good a day as any that time of year) The 92 topps set had just been released with the Gold Winners (a story all to itself) Bob Neill and I started swapping notes on Prodigy. Soon some nut from Oklahoma joined in calling himself the GURU. Mark Shelton and Josh Levine showed up. Things really got crazy when a Federale from San Francisco joined the growing circle Bob started sending us cards and thus the tradition of GIVING each other cards. Never will get even with him or Jim Mont. The title though of OBC came from Trips. Who else by a Federale would give a group some initials. Other stories followed. Some sad, some funny, one tragic and yet the group at its very best. We had open warfare once or twice (call it growing pains of both the group and internet). yet when you meet another OBCer its like you've been friends for life. So here's to another 10 years. May we meet the challenges of the future with as much good will to each other as we have the first 10. I remain The grand poobah of research and irrelevant information. PS.. Six of you asked for the books and I've got a file of your emails. Now I just have to get to them again. The box is under about a ton of things we don't need anymore. HALF of the garage. Isn't moving fun? ================= Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:00:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Semi-official OBC anniversiary From: nthomas@pol.net --- In OBC-Ramblings@y..., txpoobah@a... wrote: > Just for the record OBC came about November 26, 1991 (my birthday is as good > a day as any that time of year) The 92 topps set had just been released with > the Gold Winners (a story all to itself) Bob Neill and I started > notes on Prodigy. Soon some nut from Oklahoma joined in calling himself the > GURU. Mark Shelton and Josh Levine showed up. Things really got crazy when a > Federale from San Francisco joined the growing circle > Bob started sending us cards and thus the tradition of GIVING each > cards. Never will get even with him or Jim Mont. The title though of OBC came > from Trips. Who else by a Federale would give a group some initials. > Other stories followed. Some sad, some funny, one tragic and yet the group at > its very best. We had open warfare once or twice (call it growing pains of > both the group and internet). yet when you meet another OBCer its like you've > been friends for life. > So here's to another 10 years. May we meet the challenges of the future with > as much good will to each other as we have the first 10. > I remain > TGPORAII > The grand poobah of research and irrelevant information. > PS.. Six of you asked for the books and I've got a file of your emails. Now > I just have to get to them again. The box is under about a ton of things we > don't need anymore. HALF of the garage. Isn't moving fun? ================= Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 05:09:05 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Semi-official OBC anniversiary From: nthomas@pol.net Sorry, guys--having some email problems. This was supposed to contain this message: First all, I want to thank the guys who started OBC and keep it strong today. It is truly a joy to belong to such a group. I joined around the time of the Lynn Miller ebay bonanza, and saw the generosity of this group firsthand. One word--amazing! On another note, I have heard about this "warfare" (both from present and past OBCers), but always felt a bit hesitant to ask about the details. Being a firm believer in the theory that we learn from our mistakes, I would like to hear what transpired (privately, if that is better). So is anyone willing to share the details so we can avoid the same problems in the future? Thanks OBC! Sorry for the ramble. > --- In OBC-Ramblings@y..., txpoobah@a... wrote: > > Just for the record OBC came about November 26, 1991 (my birthday > is as good > > a day as any that time of year) The 92 topps set had just been > released with > > the Gold Winners (a story all to itself) Bob Neill and I started > swapping > > notes on Prodigy. Soon some nut from Oklahoma joined in calling > himself the > > GURU. Mark Shelton and Josh Levine showed up. Things really got > crazy when a > > Federale from San Francisco joined the growing circle > > > > Bob started sending us cards and thus the tradition of GIVING > other > > cards. Never will get even with him or Jim Mont. The title though > of OBC came > > from Trips. Who else by a Federale would give a group some > > > > Other stories followed. Some sad, some funny, one tragic and yet > the group at > > its very best. We had open warfare once or twice (call it growing > pains of > > both the group and internet). yet when you meet another OBCer its > like you've > > been friends for life. > > > > So here's to another 10 years. May we meet the challenges of the > future with > > as much good will to each other as we have the first 10. > > > > I remain > > > > TGPORAII > > > > The grand poobah of research and irrelevant information. > > > > PS.. Six of you asked for the books and I've got a file of your > emails. Now > > I just have to get to them again. The box is under about a ton of > things we > > don't need anymore. HALF of the garage. Isn't moving fun? ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:38:30 EDT Subject: Re: The Postman Cometh To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Assault continues on everyones wantlist. Down to the last 4 people who had wantlists posted. ================= To: Subject: Help !!!!! Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:12:07 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Guys: I'm considering buying a guys collection and could use a little advice on a rough price. It's pretty good size and all cards average about VG-EX for the 50's and 60's and Ex-MT or better for 70's to current. If anybody out there can help with a general opinion of the value I'd sure appreciate it !!! 10k, 20k, 30k, 40k. more??? Complete Sets -TOPPS 1957 - 1 set 1958 - 1 set 1959 - 1 set 1960 - 1 set 1961 - 1 set 1962 - 1 set 1964 - 1 set 1965 - 1 set 1968 - 1 set 1969 - 1 set 1970 - 1 set 1971 - 1 set 1972 - 1 set 1973 - 1 set 1974 - 1 set 1975 reg. - 1 set 1975 mini - 1 set 1976 - 3 sets 1977 - 3 sets 1978 - 3 sets 1979 - 4 sets 1980 - 8 sets 1981 - 4 sets 1982 - 3 sets 1983 - 4 sets 1984 - 2 sets 1985 - 2 sets 1986 - 2 sets 1987 - 2 sets 1988 - 1 set TOPPS TRADED 1981 - 9 sets 1982 - 3 sets 1981 - 5 sets 1981 - 1 error set 1982 - 10 sets 1983 - 5 sets 1984 - 2 sets 1985 - 2 sets 1986 - 2 sets 1987 - 2 sets 1988 - 2 sets 1981 - 5 sets 1982 - 8 sets 1983 - 4 sets 1984 - 2 sets 1985 - 2 sets 1986 - 2 sets 1987 - 1 set 1988 - 1 set PARTIAL LIST OF STAR DUPLICATES 50 Robinson - 1 123 Koufax - 1 292 Aparicio - 1 76 Clemente - 2 97 Yankees - 1 203 Wilhelm - 1 212 Colavito - 1 5 Mays - 1 30 Aaron - 1 150 Mantle - 2 304 Tiger Big B. - 2 310 Banks - 3 320 Ford - 3 370 Berra - 2 436 Rival Fence - 2 476 Musial AS - 3 487 Mantle AS - 2 10 Mantle - 1 50 Mays - 2 150 Musial - 3 163 Koufax - 2 360 Kaline - 2 439 Robinson - 2 514 Gibson - 1 555 Campy - 1 561 Aaron AS - 2 563 Mays AS - 2 564 Mantle AS - 2 571 Spahn AS - 3 35 Ford - 4 50 Kaline - 2 148 Yaz - 1 200 Mays - 3 250 Musial - 1 300 Aaron - 5 316 McCovey - 3 326 Clemente - 2 343 Koufax - 2 350 Mantle - 2 377 Maris - 1 1960 cont. 445 Spahn - 4 475 Drysdale - 2 480 Berra - 1 490 Robinson - 2 493 Snider - 5 563 Mantle AS - 1 2 Maris - 1 150 Mays - 1 211 Gibson - 4 260 Drysdale - 2 287 Yaz - 2 290 Musial - 1 300 Mantle - 1 360 Robinson - 2 388 Clemente - 1 429 Kaline - 2 443 Snider - 1 475 Mantle MVP - 3 478 Maris MVP - 2 484 Aaron MVP - 2 545 Wilhem - 1 577 Aaron AS - 1 579 Mays AS - 2 580 Kaline AS - 1 high numbers - 18 1 Maris - 1 18 Mgr. Dream - 1 25 Banks - 2 50 Musial - 1 150 Kaline - 1 318 Mantle IA - 1 394 Aaron AS - 1 200 Mantle - 1 210 Koufax - 1 300 Mays - 1 380 Banks - 1 390 Aaron - 1 415 Gibson - 1 446 Ford - 1 21 Berra - 4 29 Brock - 2 1964 cont. 50 Mantle - 2 55 Banks - 2 120 Drysdale - 3 150 Mays - 5 225 Maris - 2 230 Robinson - 2 250 Kaline - 2 425 Rose - 2 30 Rose - 1 50 Mantle - 1 70 Yaz - 1 100 Koufax - 1 126 Palmer - 1 300 Clemente - 1 500 Aaron - 1 30 Kaline - 1 150 Mantle - 3 200 Mays - 1 250 Aaron - 1 355 Yaz - 1 400 Clemente - 1 430 Rose - 1 600 B. Robinson - 1 45 Seaver - 3 50 Mays - 1 80 Carew - 1 85 Perry - 5 110 Aaron - 1 177 Ryan - 1 220 Killebrew - 3 230 Rose - 3 240 Kaline - 4 247 Bench - 5 250 Yaz - 3 280 Mantle - 4 408 Carlton - 1 515 Palmer - 4 520 Brock - 1 20 Banks - 3 35 Morgan - 4 50 Clemente - 8 1969 cont. 75 Aparacio - 8 85 Brock - 4 95 Bench - 3 100 Aaron - 3 120 Rose - 5 190 Mays - 2 200 Gibson - 5 255 Carlton - 4 260 Jackson - 2 375 Killebrew - 3 400 Drysdale - 9 410 Kaline - 7 416 McCovey AS - 3 419 Carew AS - 5 421 Robinson AS - 6 424 Rose AS - 8 425 Yaz AS - 3 430 Bench AS - 5 440 McCovey - 4 450 Williams - 2 480 Seaver - 4 485 Perry - 8 533 Ryan - 3 500 Mantle - 10 545 Stargel - 4 10 Yaz - 5 220 Carlton - 3 250 McCovey - 2 290 Carew - 8 300 Seaver - 8 330 Brock - 5 350 Clemente - 1 449 Palmer - 2 450 McCovey - 3 459 Jackson - 4 461 Yaz AS - 8 462 Aaron AS - 6 464 Bench AS - 2 470 Stargel - 9 500 Aaron - 3 530 Gibson - 9 537 Morgan - 10 580 Rose - 2 600 Mays - 3 630 Banks - 2 5 Munson - 10 20 Jackson - 7 26 Blylevyn - 10 50 McCovey - 7 55 Carlton - 4 100 Rose - 12 140 Perry - 10 160 Seaver - 7 180 Kaline - 2 210 Carew - 4 230 Stargel - 11 250 Bench - 8 264 Morgan - 9 276 Foster - 3 300 Robinson - 6 341 Garvey - 9 513 Ryan - 4 525 Banks - 4 530 Yaz - 5 550 Killebrew - 4 600 Mays - 2 625 Brock - 4 630 Clemente - 3 640 Robinson - 3 37 Yaz - 8 49 Mays - 11 50 Mays IA - 16 51 Killebrew - 9 79 Fisk - 3 100 Robinson - 5 130 Gibson - 14 132 Morgan - 7 200 Brock - 3 270 Palmer - 6 280 McCovey - 4 299 Aaron - 6 300 Aaron IA - 1 309 Clemente - 2 310 Clemente IA - 5 313 Aparicio - 5 433 Bench - 1 435 Jackson - 2 445 Seaver - 3 446 Seaver IA - 2 559 Rose - 2 560 Rose IA - 1 595 Ryan - 2 50 Clemente - 9 90 Robinson - 7 100 Aaron - 5 130 Rose -14 160 Palmer 170 Killebrew - 5 213 Garvey - 2 245 Yaz - 4 255 Jackson - 1 300 Carlton - 1 305 Mays - 3 320 Brock - 1 330 Carew - 3 350 Seaver - 4 370 Stargel - 3 380 Bench - 1 Wash. Padres - 32 1 Aaron - 5 10 Bench - 6 20 Ryan - 4 40 Palmer - 6 50 Carew - 6 55 Robinson - 6 60 Brock - 6 80 Seaver - 7 85 Morgan - 4 95 Carlton - 3 100 Stargel - 7 130 Jackson - 1 160 Robinson - 6 215 Kaline - 2 250 McCovey - 8 252 Parker - 5 280 Yaz - 2 283 Schmidt - 4 300 Rose - 10 340 Munson - 3 350 Gibson - 4 456 Winfield - 8 575 Garvey - 10 PARTIAL SETS a.. 1951 Bowman - have all cards thru 252 (missing 253-324) b.. 1953 Bowman (color series) - missing 7, 8, 9,10,15,16,18, 22, 23, 26,28, 29, 31, 38, 40, 42, 43, 49, 54, 55, 58, 59, 64, 66, 70, 71, 73, 74, 75, 77, 82, 84, 85, 86, 103, 105, 106, 110, 112, 114, 116, 117, 118, 119, 121, 122, 126, 127, 128, 132, 135, 136, 138, 139, 140, 141, 145, 155 c.. 1953 Bowman (black & white series) - missing 14, 28, 39, 44, 56 d.. 1955 Bowman - missing 1, 2, 3, 17, 18, 23, 30, 38, 42, 46, 48, 60, 64, 70, 77, 81, 95, 99, 101, 109, 111, 112, 125, 134, 135, 136, 143, 146, 150, 151, 152, 153, 155, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 165, 169, 170, 172, 175, 176, 178, 179, 182, 183, 192, 195, 197, 202, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 212, 216, 220, 222, 224, 225, 226, 227, 229, 230, 231, 232, 234, 235, 236, 238, 239, 240, 247, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 255, 256, 257,258,259, 260, 261, 262, 264, 265, 266, 268, 269, 270, 272, 273, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290. 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 303, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 315, 317, 318, 319, 320 e.. 1959 Fleers' Ted Williams - missing #68 f.. 1963 Fleer - missing 5, 13, 29, 33, 34, 46, 64 g.. 1953 Topps - missing 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 28, 31, 32, 34, 36, 39, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 51, 54, 55, 56, 57, 60, 61, 62, 64, 65, 67, 68, 69, 71, 73, 74, 75, 78, 80, 81, 83, 84, 86, 94, 95, 96, 101, 102, 105, 106, 109, 119, 122, 126, 130, 131, 132, 138, 139, 142, 143, 145, 146, 151, 155, 160, 161, 162, 164, 167, 170, 175, 177, 178, 181, 189, 196, 200, 202, 210, 212, 214, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 227, 229, 230, 233, 234, 235, 239, 240, 242, 243, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 269, 270, 273, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280 h.. 1954 Topps - missing 1, 10, 12, 37, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 56, 58, 60, 61, 62, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 79, 85, 86, 87, 90, 94, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 102, 103, 104, 105, 108, 110, 113, 116, 117, 119, 122, 124, 125, 132, 133, 135, 139, 141, 145, 146, 148, 149, 151, 153, 155, 157, 158, 159, 160, 164, 165, 166, 168, 169, 171, 172, 175, 183, 185, 187, 188, 190, 201, 203, 211, 214, 217, 221, 225, 235, 236, 239, 242, 250 i.. 1955 Topps - missing 2, 164, 187, 189, 193, 198, 210 j.. 1956 Topps - missing 6, 20, 90, 95, 100, 110, 115, 130, 134, 145, 150, 159, 164, 180, 181, 186, 187, 191, 194, 196, 200, 208, 216, 219, 222, 223, 226, 230, 235, 236, 239, 240, 243, 250, 251, 252, 257, 260, 264, 271, 276, 283, 299, 306, 312, 319, 320, 324 k.. 1963 Topps - missing 115, 233, 242, 250, 312, 345, 360, 365, 398, 400, 407, 412, 417, 447, 448, 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 468, 469, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 479, 480, 481, 482, 483, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490, 491, 492, 494, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 510, 512, 513, 514, 515, 517, 518, 520, 521, 522, 525, 526, 530, 534, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 544, 549, 550, 556, 557, 558, 559, 561, 564, 565, 569, 570, 576 l.. 1966 Topps - missing 91B, 310, 320, 446, 450, 469, 470, 487, 490, 517, 524, 525, 526, 527, 530, 532, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 543, 544, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 551, 552, 553, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 561, 562, 563, 564, 566, 567, 568, 569, 570, 571, 572, 573, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 580, 581, 582, 583, 584, 586, 587, 588, 589, 590, 591, 592, 593, 594, 598 m.. 1967 Topps - missing 460, 466, 469, 474, 475, 500, 513, 521, 530, 534, 535, 536, 538, 539, 541, 544, 545, 546, 549, 550, 552, 555, 557, 560, 562, 563, 564, 569, 570, 572, 575, 580, 581, 585, 591, 593, 595, 598, 602, 607 n.. 1948 Bowman - have 4 Johnny Mize, 6 Yogi Berra, 23 Larry Jansen o.. 1949 Bowman - have 26 George Kell, 75 Eddie Mayo p.. 1950 Bowman - have 4 Gus Zernial, 41 Hoot Evers, 59 Ralph Branca, 134Dizzy Trout, 151 Fred Hutchinson, 199 Jack Kramer q.. 1952 Bowman - have 3 Fred Hutchinson, 35 Granny Hamner, 111 Hoot Evers, 131 Bob Swift, 163 Johnny Lipon, 169 Walt Dropo, 183 Pat Mullin, 199 TedGray, 216 Matt Batts, 222 Del Wilber, 230 Frank Shea, 239 Dale Mitchell r.. 1960 Fleer's Baseball Greats - have 4 Carl Hubble, 8 Roger Bresnahan,9 Mordecai Brown, 14 Connie Mack, 16 Lou Boudreau, 18 Heinie Manush, 19 Marty Marion, 24 Mickey Cochrane, 27 Luke Appling, 28 Lou Gehrig, 36 Mel Ott, 37 Lefty O'Doul, 39 Ed Miller, 56 Ray Schalk, 58 Charlie Gehringer, 62 Honus Wagner, 63 Red Ruffing, 69 Waite Hoyt, 73 Warren Giles, 77 Pie Traynor s.. 1961 Fleer's Baseball Greats - have 2 Grover Alexander, 14 Ty Cobb, 16 Eddie Collins, 17 Earle Combs, 22 Billy Evans, 32 Charlie Gehringer, 43 Roger Hornsby, 45 Carl Hubbell, 49 Walter Johnson, 53 Judge Landis, 59 Christy Mathewson, 64 Johnny Mostil, 65 Art Nehf, 66 Hal Newhouser, 75 Babe Ruth, 80 Fred Toney t.. 1948 & 1949 Leaf - have 3 Babe Ruth, 4 Stan Musial, 10 Dizzy Trout, 17 Frank Overmire, 32 Warren Spahn, 50 Dick Wakefield, 83 Bobby Doerr, 91 Ralph Kiner, 95 George Stirnweiss, 125 Andy Papko, 139 Johnny Hopp u.. 1960 Leaf - have 1 Luis Aparicio, 2 Woodie Held, 9 Eddie Kasko, 12 Ken Boyer, 13 Bob Boyd, 19 Don Newcombe, 22 Ryan Duren, 27 Brooks Robinson, 31 Rocky Bridge, 44 Tony Taylor, 45 Jerry Lynch, 55 Jim Rivera, 56 Ted Wills, 58 Hal Smith, 60 Clem Labine, 62 John Gabler, 63 John Tsitouris, 68 Moe Drabowsky, 71 Whitey Herzog, 100 Willie Tasby, 116 Lou Klimchock a.. Hundreds of star and rookie doubles 1955 to 1990 (Fleer and Donruss) b.. 40-50 wax and cello boxes of 1987, 1988 and 1989 (Fleer and Donruss) c.. 100 to 200 thousand common doubles of Topps, Bowman, Fleer and Donruss 1951 to 1990 d.. 1982 Fleer sticker sets - 18 sets e.. 1981 Donruss puzzle - 18 f.. 1970 Baseball stars photo album g.. 3,500 Detroit Tiger doubles h.. 1955 Topps Doubleheader #45 Al Kaline i.. 1980 Baseball super star set (60 cards) j.. Perez/Steele Hall of Fame Post cards series 1 and 2 - 2 sets k.. 200 Topps coins 1964 and 1971 - many stars l.. Hires Root beer 1958 test issue Willie Mays (no number) - mint condition m.. Old cloth stickers emblem - 14 (15 different in series "Get Them All") n.. Many yearbooks - Tigers ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Semi-official OBC anniversiary Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 13:59:57 -0400 From: "Rick Redpath" Okay, now we have a semi-official date! Thank you Terry! Maybe this note will inspire some of the other long-timers (no names please, we know who you are Josh, Bob, Rick E, Rick K, Guru, Todd, Wayne, John, Doug, Ron, Mike, etc) to share some stories about the old days. Way back when, before there was an eBay, before there were wantlists on the internet, back when baseball cards still (I think) came in wax wrappers with gum... 10 years is something to be proud of. Let's talk it up! - Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Semi-official OBC anniversiary > Just for the record OBC came about November 26, 1991 (my birthday is as > a day as any that time of year) The 92 topps set had just been released > the Gold Winners (a story all to itself) Bob Neill and I started swapping > notes on Prodigy. Soon some nut from Oklahoma joined in calling himself > GURU. Mark Shelton and Josh Levine showed up. Things really got crazy when > Federale from San Francisco joined the growing circle > Bob started sending us cards and thus the tradition of GIVING each other > cards. Never will get even with him or Jim Mont. The title though of OBC > from Trips. Who else by a Federale would give a group some initials. > Other stories followed. Some sad, some funny, one tragic and yet the group > its very best. We had open warfare once or twice (call it growing pains of > both the group and internet). yet when you meet another OBCer its like > been friends for life. > So here's to another 10 years. May we meet the challenges of the future > as much good will to each other as we have the first 10. > I remain > TGPORAII > The grand poobah of research and irrelevant information. > PS.. Six of you asked for the books and I've got a file of your emails. > I just have to get to them again. The box is under about a ton of things > don't need anymore. HALF of the garage. Isn't moving fun? > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:29:11 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Semi-official OBC anniversiary To: Txpoobah@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com In a message dated 8/2/2001 8:17:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, txpoobah@aol.com writes: > Just for the record OBC came about November 26, 1991, (my birthday is as > good > a day as any that time of year) The 92 topps set had just been released > with > the Gold Winners (a story all to itself) Bob Neill and I started swapping > notes on Prodigy. Soon some nut from Oklahoma joined in calling himself the > GURU. Mark Shelton and Josh Levine showed up. Things really got crazy when > a > Federale from San Francisco joined the growing circle > Bob started sending us cards and thus the tradition of GIVING each other > cards. Never will get even with him or Jim Mont. The title though of OBC > came > from Trips. Who else by a Federale would give a group some initials. > Other stories followed. Some sad, some funny, one tragic and yet the group > at > its very best. We had open warfare once or twice (call it growing pains of > both the group and internet). yet when you meet another OBCer its like > you've > been friends for life. > So here's to another 10 years. May we meet the challenges of the future > with > as much good will to each other as we have the first 10. > I remain > TGPORAII Well, said Terry! I cannot think of a better date to celebrate our ten years together than your birthday! I do remember with great fondness and a touch of pride the weekend we collected the entire 1975 Topps set as a wish from a member seriously ill (since deceased) Kevin Losche (SP) to give to his son. His hope was to complete the set with his son before he died and we help him accomplish it! Kevin had no idea we were doing this and we had no idea we could. I believe Geno got the ball rolling on this project and I helped by updating the list sometimes every minute or so. To make a long story short a true miracle happen and we completed the entire set in one weekend and we all mailed the cards the following week to Kevin. The real part of the miracle was receiving an email from Kevin describing his trip (his Dad and son was with him) to the post office while on the way to the doctor's for more cemoptheraphy. Kevin described his shock at opening his mail box stuffed with "Puffy's"! Kevin, his son and Dad opened envelopes for hours and described putting the entire set in a binder checking off each and every card off his wantlist until the set was complete! You guessed it, the entire set arrived from all over the country on the very same day! Now that is a miracle! We have many other memories to share with all of you and I do not want to hog the show here. I ask for help and I am sure, like me, many of you have old messages or chat sessions (sometimes know as OBC swap sessions) on "floppy disks" or your hard drive. I have many of them on floppy disks because in those days I had very little hard disk space for storage. I am sure Jim Wiehe and others will jump in here and help also. To high light a few I remember one night in our monthly "swap session" Larry, Phil and Eric literally flipping cards at their respective homes and describing the action. Each won or lost depending upon how close they described their flipped card came to the wall they were flipping at! On many occasions I ran an on-line sports talk chat session to receive free on-line time from AOL. Back then AOL did not have unlimited access. In those sessions I met and became friends with Dana DeMuth a National League Umpire. He often came into the sessions and freely talked about his occupation with any OBCer that would show up. I thank Mark Shelton for being my mentor in this process. Do any of you remember me getting bounced numerous times because I didn't know how to disable call waiting? I remember the first large OBC gathering on the West Coast in Las Vegas and Mike Hair literally describing each detail of the weekend long event in emails to all of OBC! I received one of the last emails at my hotel by fax just as I was checking out! I seem to remember Terry calling Mike's home while we were all there and pretending (very convincingly) to be an IRS agent, that was funny! I have many more stories and emails I will share throughout the next few months and I hope others will as well! Yes, we did have some growing pains and we will still have them but, to me it is all worth it! The group is worth every effort we put into it! I am so very proud to call every one of you my friends and I am proud of OBC!!!!! Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:30:58 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Semi-official OBC anniversiary To: nthomas@pol.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Neal - Call or email me with any questions you may have about our "growing pains" and I will be happy to try and tell you what happened or refer you to others that can. ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:31:55 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Semi-official OBC anniversiary To: rredpath@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, Txpoobah@aol.com From: tply@aol.com Rick - I will do my part and hope others will as well. In fact, I have already started (please see my reply to Terry). ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:48:21 EDT Subject: Old Email from the early days To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Before you read this. My apologies to Sal whom I believe was the one that started the Kevin 75 Topps set idea and not Geno as I earlier stated. I guess old age has gotten to my memory, enjoy. Subj: Kevin... Date: 97-09-24 20:53:30 EDT From: ChicoD1 To: sagard@pconline.com, alcazar@fox.nstn.ca,Jocraig To: XDrJ, buscemi@erols.com, geordie@cell2000.net To: stephen.carter@multiflex.com, JCERU8600 To: bkc@ci.cookeville.tn.us, jching@aloha.net,XCIP To: gcodere@scieh.tcom.co.uk, dcoen@aa.net To: cpconley@desertlinc.com,yaz@evansville.net To: friar4@ct1.nai.net,craft.sondra@mcleodusa.net To: AlCattle, DCBBL, Curtisea, MCzape, XDDX To: redsox3@ibm.net, dietrick@penn.com,ChicoD1 To: okeedokee@pipeline.com, XNDX To: webbing@mindspring.com, TPLY, RFarr19 To: feastert@aspb.state.ar.us, ipsinc@us.net,KWG0 To: jose88@voicenet.com, Binghmton4, CHackman To: ghart@log.on.ca, soli@frontiernet.net,GHAY1 To: CoachJPH, hitzema@indiana.edu, neilh@adam.com.au To: DSH46, Mtllcamess, marcpeter@juno.com To: djj@earthlink.net, julien@i1.net To: kalinajc@erols.com, rkeating@juno.com,R6514 To: kinneys6@juno.com, tknowles@mocc.com To: dkolenda@surfnetinc.com, XBLX, Wite3 To: familytoad@webtv.net, famlist@erols.com To: Playball33, danm@atcon.com, Malsman To: wmarvin@ic.waseca.mn.us,smcgowan@cs.uml.edu To: m.mcgrail@telemedia.nl, JEdward To: metz@io.uwinnipeg.ca, pgmiller@interl.net To: jmmnt@oldbaseball.com,tigersgam@worldnet.att.net To: ZXRM, HMorgan707, CardClctor To: cjmdpi@main.goldengate.net,dnathan@tenet.edu To: rdn56@ipass.net, nyej@menominee.k12.mi.us To: oneills@gte.net, rmperry@alpha.delta.edu,EHPIII To: Toppsin50, lrobinson@gasto.org, MattR613 To: MSRANGERS, RScogland, chahta@juno.com,Ses617 To: skel@radiks.net, TraderDoug To: dsosidka@postoffice.ptd.net,skeeter6@erols.com To: dstexmex@ix.netcom.com, hutch2@cyberis.net To: debrick@wichita.fn.net, jimt@ix.netcom.com To: guru@dockingbay.com, SICX,illini90@juno.com To: w-wagner@nwu.edu, maway@isbe.accessus.net To: marshall52@juno.com, XTrJmx,williamt@kic.or.jp To: KGWOLFMAN, Txpoobah,mzentko@worldnet.att.net To: LZurawski I think we all had the same reaction when wesaw the incoming mail title... One of those moments where you knew what you're about to read, yet avoiding it, hoping the mail would go away. I guessdeep down, we knew this day would come. It is my hope that everyone in thisgroup touched him in a way that made his short time here just a little moreenjoyable. I know he touched me that way. The thing that makes this tough isthat we aren't supposed to lose anyone in this group. Oldtimers, bear withme... Some of you guys have an idea of what OBC is about. Others are stillworking their way thru the massive e-mail. We have been thru divorce, marriage, birth, death, the kids in the playoffs, ourselves in theplayoffs, a few fights, many laughs, and just plain & quot;damn glad to knowyou" types of chatter. So I feel that I can honor Kevin best bysharing what has come to be known as the greatest moment in OBC history. Thenext few e-mails will tell of a quest we had on behalf of Kevin. I'll send thefiles of the e-mails we exchanged, trying to accomplish this amazing feat. Iknow that you guys made me proud that day. This is what OBC is all about.Despite what we sometimes go thru, we never let each other down. Like thesaying says, you can always count on your friends. I am happy to call each ofyou that and feel very priviledged to have called Kevin my friend. It kind ofmakes you think how special a bunch of folks we have here. I can name somegreat things done by OBCers. Thanks Phil for pulling me aboard for this wildride. Ok, I'm getting a little whispy and winded, so here is part one... ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:55:51 EDT Subject: Another OBC Memory To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Subj: Kevin Part 3 Date: 97-09-24 20:56:55 EDT From: ChicoD1 To: sagard@pconline.com, alcazar@fox.nstn.ca,Jocraig To: XDrJ, buscemi@erols.com, geordie@cell2000.net To: stephen.carter@multiflex.com, JCERU8600 To: bkc@ci.cookeville.tn.us, jching@aloha.net,XCIP To: gcodere@scieh.tcom.co.uk, dcoen@aa.net To: cpconley@desertlinc.com,yaz@evansville.net To: friar4@ct1.nai.net,craft.sondra@mcleodusa.net To: AlCattle, DCBBL, Curtisea, MCzape, XDDX To: redsox3@ibm.net, dietrick@penn.com,ChicoD1 To: okeedokee@pipeline.com, XNDX To: webbing@mindspring.com, TPLY, RFarr19 To: feastert@aspb.state.ar.us, ipsinc@us.net,KWG0 To: jose88@voicenet.com, Binghmton4, CHackman To: ghart@log.on.ca, soli@frontiernet.net,GHAY1 To: CoachJPH, hitzema@indiana.edu, neilh@adam.com.au To: DSH46, Mtllcamess, marcpeter@juno.com To: djj@earthlink.net, julien@i1.net To: kalinajc@erols.com, rkeating@juno.com,R6514 To: kinneys6@juno.com, tknowles@mocc.com To: dkolenda@surfnetinc.com, XBLX, Wite3 To: familytoad@webtv.net, famlist@erols.com To: Playball33, danm@atcon.com, Malsman To: wmarvin@ic.waseca.mn.us,smcgowan@cs.uml.edu To: m.mcgrail@telemedia.nl, JEdward To: metz@io.uwinnipeg.ca, pgmiller@interl.net To: jmmnt@oldbaseball.com,tigersgam@worldnet.att.net To: ZXRM, HMorgan707, CardClctor To: cjmdpi@main.goldengate.net,dnathan@tenet.edu To: rdn56@ipass.net, nyej@menominee.k12.mi.us To: oneills@gte.net, rmperry@alpha.delta.edu,EHPIII To: Toppsin50, lrobinson@gasto.org, MattR613 To: MSRANGERS, RScogland, chahta@juno.com,Ses617 To: skel@radiks.net, TraderDoug To: dsosidka@postoffice.ptd.net,skeeter6@erols.com To: dstexmex@ix.netcom.com, hutch2@cyberis.net To: debrick@wichita.fn.net, jimt@ix.netcom.com To: guru@dockingbay.com, SICX,illini90@juno.com To: w-wagner@nwu.edu, maway@isbe.accessus.net To: marshall52@juno.com, XTrJmx,williamt@kic.or.jp To: KGWOLFMAN, Txpoobah,mzentko@worldnet.att.net To: LZurawski Subj: Re: Kevin Date: 96-08-28 20:13:13 EDT From: Glk To: ChicoD1 HiSal!! I too was really touched by the way things worked out with Kevin. Even my tough as bricks wife thought it was a wonderful thing to do!! Thepart that leaves a hole with me is that I had no 1975's to contribute. Yes, wedid it as a group and even though none of my cards were in the packages, I was still represented. Therefore, after talking to Rick and getting his thumbs up, I thought that we might try to get his 1965set finished. This would allow those of us who have cards in that "era" to make our owncontribution. The only problem card is the Carlton Rookie. none of the other cards he needs are major stars. My alternative is to just mail the 27 cards i have for him on the September 1st "healing power of cardboard"mailings we are supposed to do. What doyou think? Please let me know! Yourfriend, Joel Subj: Re: Kevin Date: 96-08-29 05:10:26 EDT From: Glk To: ChicoD1 I willsend them on the first!!!! Subj: Stan Hack Project Update Date: 96-08-29 11:39:03 EDT From: klohse@trend1.com (Kevin Lohse) To: KLohse@trend1.com Reallywanted to give you an update yesterday regarding the amazing thing you didfor me, but, to be quite frank, my son and I spend almost every free momentsorting out all those cards and putting them into the new binder!!! We setup a cardboard table in his bedroom and went to work starting on Mondaynight when they first came in. Rightnow we're up to # 500 somethingand there's only 2 blank spaces in the folders - AND they're probablyones that we misplaced into the back of the stack and didn't come accrossyet. I absolutely can't believe howthat project was so well organized! We put card after card in the folder, withmaybe 2 or 3 dupes out ofthe 500 + we did so far. You maybe thinking, if we spent so much time working on the cards why are we notstill not finished? Do you believe thathe makes me try to guess the answerto EACH of the trivia questions on the back of each card before he puts itinto the binder!!!!! WATCH OUT, TEXPOOBAH!! Subj: Hack Update / Cobb Contest !! Date: 96-08-30 18:23:51 EDT From: klohse@trend1.com (Kevin Lohse) To: KLohse@trend1.com Lastnight my son Nathan and I finished compiling the '75 Topps set into the binder! From Aaron to Aaron, every card (except for4 commons which he and I willhave a great time searching for at the local shop tomorrow) in the correctslot. Each trivia questionattempted. As we finished up the last 100cards Nate asked me which year we should collect next. I told him that I'llget another starter set for him at the Ft. Washington show. Maybeyou guys could help me out with something. I have a 1912 T202 Hassan TripleFolder card of Ty Cobb that's burning a hole in my pocket. A typical triplefold has a black and white center panel with a card almost identical to aT205 at each end. What I have is one ofthe end cards which happens to be ofTy Cobb, with the middle and other end card missing - but something anytrue OBCer would truely appreciate. Asthe card stands now, I believe itlooks identical to a T205 of Ty except the border is white and not gold. Theback of the card has the following: "Ty" Cobb, Detroit's outfielder, is one ofthe fastest players that ever lived. In1911, he batted .420, making 248hits, the greatest number ever made by a player in one season. He also led theAmerican League in scoring runs, in stealing bases, in two-baggers, andthree-baggers. For the five yearsending 1911 his average batting figureswere .371." Sounds like thePeach was comming off a pretty good I thinkit might be fun to have a little contest so some lucky OBCer could walkaway with this card. To enter, all youhave to do is write a few words regardingthe subject, "How cardboard has made your life a little bit happier". It could be funny, tear jerking, anythingyou feel like Contentwill actually have no bearing on who wins because I'll just put a name ina hat for each person who writes something (please post to all, thoughI'll compile them and resend them to everybody at the end). The deadlineto post a message will be September 25. We'll draw the lucky name sometimeduring the Ft. Washington weekend festivities (no, you don't have to bethere to win). Good luck! Subj: "How cardboard has made your life a littlebit happier" Date: 96-08-31 14:20:30 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 Kevinand all - Great idea and I will try and put into words "How cardboard hasmade my life a littlebit happier": Thefirst thing I think about regarding old cardboard is this great group! I still marvel at how a groupof collectors has maintained a friendship for the last five or six yearssimpily by sending emailand trading pieces of cardboard through snail mail. We have connected in a way that is hard toexplain to family and friends. I havebeen fortunate enough to meet many members of thisgroup in person and it has always been like meeting old friends! I treasure every package I receivefrom this group and I often thumb through my many binders to sooth the Ofcourse, sending packages has the same effect at times! I know that every card Ireceived fromthis group has a story to tell and many of them I recall simpily by gazing atthe card as I turnpage after page of my binders. Forinstance the 1953 # 28 Topps Eddie CincinnatiReds card I received from Milwaukee close to four years ago. This card was in a plasticsleeve and had a post-it stuck on the card that read "Trips& quot;, when Ipeeled the post-it off thecard, half the players face came with it including his left eye and half of hisleft ear. I have thiscard in a special binder that I keep"Tipton Mint" cards in. Another card in this binder is a rare1951 Topps Team Card of the Cincinnati Reds that arrived several years ago fromLos Angelesenclosed in a plastic bag from the Post Office, it appears that the package hadbeen severelydamaged by the Post Office and the Post Master wrote me a message thedamage that they had done to the mail. I still have the mangled envelope that enclosed the card,the plastic bag, a message from the post office, the mangled note written bythe OBCer and, ofcourse, the card! When I sent a messagedescribing the package and the damage done to thepackage I described the creases in the card and I received a reply from thesender that said inpart; "Creases ala collector seem to be there." In other words, the card arrived pretty muchlike it was sent only the envelope and note was destroyed by the postoffice. I have the card,the mangled envelope and note in my special "Tipton Mint" binder andI look at it often with a smileon my face! I remember a trip I took acouple of years ago to Washington D.C. and meetingtwo OBCers for dinner, we talked baseball and the very genorious OBCers from Marylandgave me a copy of the book "Great Book of Baseball Cards"! We (I) then proceeded torifle through a binder full of 1972 Topps cards that these very kind OBCersbrought with them! Beforelong every waiter or waitress in the place was dropping by our table marvelingat our activities! I will never forget that night! I could go on to describe the night severalof the memberswere flipping cards during a chat session or the "MIKITA" card Ireceived from OK. but, I willstop here. One other thing is, ofcourse, the pleasure I get from collecting with my family. I willclose by saying that I really believe in "The healing power Subj: Re: "How cardboard has made your life alittle bit happier" Date: 96-08-31 19:09:50 EDT From: Curtisea Collectingcardboard again after 20 yrs.had past came quite by accident.I married earlyand divorcedearly the first time around.As those of you who share this experience gamecan at times be both a blessing and a curse.I stayed single for 11 years determinedto not repeat old mistakes.I didn't! One ofmy girlfriends children, a young son from her first marriage,was really intocard collecting. Playingthe pseudo father role was part of the relationship so I spent a good deal oftime driving her son,and usually a friend ,to various shows in the area.While the youngsters ranoff to check outtheir favorite players I killed some time wandering around amazed that peoplewould actually paygood money for cards. Cards our mothers had tossed!! I was infatuated! Herewere all the starsof my youth Mantle,Maris,Berra,Kaline,Fisk,BOOG!. Well tomake a long story short the old girlfriend is long gone and I have found thatelusive love of mylife ,my wife Vickie, but ever since those days, I've remained in the I evenopened a hobby shop for a short while hoping to capture what I've now foundwith OBC! I rememberone of my customers, a local minister, who used to come into my shop wasalways excited about something going on with this group and filled me inperiodically on his own collectionand collections being constructed by other members.Of course,that minister was our ownDr. John Ball and believe, to add a religious twist to this,that Johns entrancein that shop of minewas nothing short of divine intervention. Ihonestly never believed at that time that I could ever get to that level ofcollecting. I thought the time tobegin a collection of this magnitude had long since passed and that I succeed.You guys have all proven me wrong and I thank you for it. How hascardboard made my life happier? It was cardboard that brought me to withyou guys,it is you all who have made my life happier. Thank you! Subj: The Meaning of Cardboard Date: 96-08-31 23:45:10 EDT From: txpoobah@e-tex.com (Terry Woods) I was anormal child. Bright and well-liked, but living in a neighborhood with noone my age. My yard was Memorial Stadium, County Stadium, Boston Garden,and the Coloseum. Later it would become Augusta National. Whatever theseason it was adaptable. Longhorns, Braves, Celtics and the Olympics (decathonof course, bamboo fishing poles for the pole vault and my mothers patiolounge chair cushion for the landing. at least until she caught me. Clearedfour feet once.) A thousand imaginery games where played in that yard. But thereal magic occurred in the bedroom. Two single beds along adjoining wallswith a night table in the corner. THE PERFECT OUTFIELD WALL. The Braveswhipping up on everyone except the Orioles. Even they could not beat theteam headed by the great Willie Miranda. the ball you ask......either a footballcard or a Joe Margoneri (I must of had 15 of him) folded to about oneinch and then held together by a rubber band. The bat.... a pencil (Ticonderogawith one side shaved flat and a layer of glue. Then notched for twofinger. The ultimate weapon) Nowlineups were kept by writing ON the card the players spot in the lineup. Ink,pencil, crayon all were used at onetime or another. Willie hit a massivehomer once. It stuck to the top of the curtains. A full nine feet abovethe playing field. Miranda once hit six homers in one game. Probably exceedinghis actual Career totals.Only the Mick of all the dreaded Yankees couldever have any success against the Braves, Giants, Orioles or Dodgers. Matthews,Aaron, Reese, Campanella Hodges Adcock not only heroes, but there at thelovely Mission Stadium for a 1957 spring training game. Butnone of the real games could match the drama of the thousands of games playedin the bedroom. After hours spent comparing the statistics Iwould create All-star teams, allTexas teams vs. the infidels from the North, the biggest guys at each positionvs the littlest. the players with the highest batting averages againstthose with the lowest. (The Poobah obviously in the making) Thencame May 27th 1963 and three friendsdecided to play golf on a Friday afternoon.Later I would discover that after accumulating 75% of the 59 and 60sets, I had about a 100 61s and 50 62s and NOT ONE 63. I needed money for Then in1981 I went to a card show in Dallas. My 5 year old daughter in tow. (Canthis be the same child who is now a mother?) Couldn't believe the pricesthey were selling cards. My 53 Mantle at $200. And to sell cards, theywanted to give you nothing for them. Too many memories to sell any of thoseprecious 2500 baseball and 800 football cards that now resided in a briefcaseI had used in College. Thencame 1989 and a trip to the 7-11. What's this? A box of Bowmans. Resurrectingmy childhood hobby and the set with the TVs. Let me have a box . Laterhad one set and most of another. My childhood had returned. Besides my newwife loved to go to flea markets and I was seeing baseball stuff Then anew toy for the computer, Prodigy. A local call and here's someone writingabout old baseball cards. And yes he likes them beat up too. Bob Neillfrom North Carolina. Soon some nut from Oklahoma joined us and the rest ishistory. At age4 I started wearing baseball caps. Mom said I'd lose my hair. She was right.I asked her one day if I was as passionate for the game as I think I was.Her response " You thought of almost nothing else from that age.& Baseball,the greatest and most noble of all games. I still live it, I still breathit, I still live those dreams as Miranda homers once more. Subj: The Meaning of Cardboard Date: 96-09-01 09:10:20 EDT From: friar4@usa.nai.net (Bob Corvello) To: friar4@nai.net For a long time I hesitated to writeor even talk about this subject. I guess because I felt that mystory was kind of weird and that such an obsession as cardboard addiction couldonly be interpretedas some form of mental aberration. As many of you have written at varioustimes, our hobbyis not the easiest thing in the world to explain to "normal people.& My attitude has changed, however, andI guess I am now truly ready to fully come out of the closeton this. OBC has turned a big corner, in my opinion, in recent weeks. We havebeen somethingmore than just a cardboard trading club for quite some time now; but the lastfew weekshave, somehow, made all of that so much more official. Now, don't get me wrong;I was neverashamed of collecting old baseball cards with all of you. I just found itawkward to try to reallyexplain it to my fellow teachers how a full grown 51 year old could be sofascinated in what most ofthem considered a kid's hobby. Of course, you know that it's not just a kid'shobby and I knowit's not just a kid's hobby, and we all know that, in many ways, it really isjust a kid's hobby; but howto heck to describe all that complexity and have it make sense. Most of mycolleagues aremuch more interested in playing tennis, or mountain biking, or gardening, or awhole number ofpseudo-intellectual hobbies that are OK I guess, but that just don't appeal tome any more. I must have started collectingbaseball cards sometime between the mid to late '50s. From thattime in history until 1991, the only cards I owned (yes, my mother never threwthem out) werefrom the '54, '58, '59, '60, and '61 sets. I had more from the '58 set than anyother and aboutall I did was to caretake them from 1961 to 1991. They sat in cellars, attics,and who knowswhere as I moved from house to house and from Rhode Island to Connecticut withmy wifeand children in 1977. Every once in a while I would see them off in a corner ina shoebox somewhereand I would say to myself that I should do something with them, but I neverreally did. Iknew that they were increasing in value as I read about some crazies who werereally gettinginto collecting cards in the late '70s and early '80s, but,for some reason,nothing about thisreally appealed to me over those years. The decade of the '80s was a verydifficult one for the olde Friar. I was beset by tons of personalproblems related to my son's emotional problems, my marriage, my job, and on andon itwent. Chronic depression set in and very little seemed to mean anythinganymore. I tried, of course,to dig out from under and hold my family together (which it still is, thankGod), but the successescame hard and, as we moved into the '90s, things were a little better, but mylife still hadmany huge holes. I guess you could say that I needed to find something wholesometo fill those holes and recreate a better person, to rebuild a foundation formyself, and,more importantly for my family who I love very much. Two things happened, not quitesimultaneously, but close enough, to help me fill those holes.They were things that would seem quite trivial to many, but I found them to bemuch more meaningfulthan anyone, even I, could have imagined. For one, I discovered computers asthe initialtechnology wave swamped over the field of education, and, of course, Irediscovered my I will never forget the day when ithappened. I was visiting my colleague Dick Ayer in the classroomwe shared (Rm. B-1 at Shepaug Valley Middle/High School). He said he somethingfor me. When I asked him what it was, he pulled out a Dwight Evans card fromthe mid-eighties(I wish now that I could remember which one it was). Anyway, he had been collectingcards again now for a few years, and said he had a dupe on this one. He knewthat Dwightwas one of my favorite players and as a Yankee fan, he was anxious ;-) to getrid of all his RedSox dupes. Well, I took the card, more out of politeness than anything else,and took it The rest is history, as they say. Onething led to another. It dawned on me that computers mightbe a great way to organize something that I had loved to do as a kid. Afterall, I already hadsome (although relatively few in number) old cards to start with. While gearingup my spreadsheetsand databases for the cards, I started to go to flea markets, auctions, and,yes, evencard shows. I also started to check out the boards, first on AOL and thenProdigy. Happily, I foundthat there were others like me who shared this strange attraction to cardboard.At first it was allcardboard, new and old; but then I saw the light and really started to focus onthe old stuff,the stuff that brought me back to the late '50s and early '60s when life was much simpler. WhenOBC finally came into the picture, it was the final piece in the puzzle thatgave meaning to all ofit. To circle back, you all know what OBC has come to mean to all of us. Yes,it has truly helpedto fill a hole in my heart, and, as I can see, the same is true for manyothers. The meaningof old cardboard is, indeed, much more than old cardboard. theolde Friar ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:10:34 EDT Subject: More OBC Memories To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Subj: Kevin Part 2A Date: 97-09-24 20:56:18 EDT From: ChicoD1 To: sagard@pconline.com, alcazar@fox.nstn.ca,Jocraig To: XDrJ, buscemi@erols.com, geordie@cell2000.net To: stephen.carter@multiflex.com, JCERU8600 To: bkc@ci.cookeville.tn.us, jching@aloha.net,XCIP To: gcodere@scieh.tcom.co.uk, dcoen@aa.net To: cpconley@desertlinc.com,yaz@evansville.net To: friar4@ct1.nai.net,craft.sondra@mcleodusa.net To: AlCattle, DCBBL, Curtisea, MCzape, XDDX To: redsox3@ibm.net, dietrick@penn.com,ChicoD1 To: okeedokee@pipeline.com, XNDX To: webbing@mindspring.com, TPLY, RFarr19 To: feastert@aspb.state.ar.us, ipsinc@us.net,KWG0 To: jose88@voicenet.com, Binghmton4, CHackman To: ghart@log.on.ca, soli@frontiernet.net,GHAY1 To: CoachJPH, hitzema@indiana.edu,neilh@adam.com.au To: DSH46, Mtllcamess, marcpeter@juno.com To: djj@earthlink.net, julien@i1.net To: kalinajc@erols.com, rkeating@juno.com,R6514 To: kinneys6@juno.com, tknowles@mocc.com To: dkolenda@surfnetinc.com, XBLX, Wite3 To: familytoad@webtv.net, famlist@erols.com To: Playball33, danm@atcon.com, Malsman To: wmarvin@ic.waseca.mn.us,smcgowan@cs.uml.edu To: m.mcgrail@telemedia.nl, JEdward To: metz@io.uwinnipeg.ca, pgmiller@interl.net To: jmmnt@oldbaseball.com,tigersgam@worldnet.att.net To: ZXRM, HMorgan707, CardClctor To: cjmdpi@main.goldengate.net,dnathan@tenet.edu To: rdn56@ipass.net, nyej@menominee.k12.mi.us To: oneills@gte.net, rmperry@alpha.delta.edu,EHPIII To: Toppsin50, lrobinson@gasto.org, MattR613 To: MSRANGERS, RScogland, chahta@juno.com,Ses617 To: skel@radiks.net, TraderDoug To: dsosidka@postoffice.ptd.net,skeeter6@erols.com To: dstexmex@ix.netcom.com, hutch2@cyberis.net To: debrick@wichita.fn.net, jimt@ix.netcom.com To: guru@dockingbay.com, SICX,illini90@juno.com To: w-wagner@nwu.edu, maway@isbe.accessus.net To: marshall52@juno.com, XTrJmx,williamt@kic.or.jp To: KGWOLFMAN, Txpoobah,mzentko@worldnet.att.net To: LZurawski Subj: Re: I Can't put into words... Date: 96-08-21 08:36:15 EDT From: HMorgan707 To: ChicoD1 Wow,Sal, a major tribute! Thanks forputting it together for all of us. Whenthe emotions dry and we take a look at this power that be, should we askourselves if this uncanny linkage could exert itself in other areas for greater benefit of mankind, aprofit-making entity or a political force of some weight in the industry or beyond? Food for thought that I would like to discuss on my return home. See youin Parsippany? Subj: Re: I Can't put into words... Date: 96-08-21 10:33:49 EDT From: txpoobah@e-tex.com (terry woods) To: ChicoD1@aol.com Just anexpansion of Sal's idea. Use STAN HACK x as your return address. I personallyam sending cards as STAN HACK 24, naturally in honor of the greatestplayer there ever was. Bet I know what number Trips will use. STANI'm sure has a big smile on his face and based on his note on the website,certainly approves. This whole process can be summarized quickly. You didgood, guys. Subj: why is it..... Date: 96-08-21 13:32:13 EDT From: SICX ......thatevery time I try to post a note on the website spilling the beans and rattingout old Stan Hack,it never shows up in the page??? Justwondering out loud - Subj: Re: Update: to all but Kevin... Date: 96-08-21 23:23:42 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) To: ChicoD1@aol.com Yep,great group. Thanks for coming up thethe 75 T leader card. I had thatone too, and the Carter rookie. Tripssaid to keep the leader card causeyou had it. I am glad I got to keep it. Leftyand Nolan! Ouch! At01:04 PM 8/20/96 -0400, you wrote: > Just looking for a card that made you feelgood at one time or another. >We're just trying to pass the good feeling we got from that card on to >Kevin. Amazing what we've done to his 75s eh? This is one helluva group! Subj: Re: I Can't put into words... Date: 96-08-21 23:35:47 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) To: txpoobah@e-tex.com (terry woods),ChicoD1@aol.com I can'tbring myself to put a Gary Carter rookie in the mail without a returnaddress....I used my brothers address 130 miles away, just in case. Subj: Don't forget the mail!!!! Date: 96-08-22 23:25:54 EDT From: ChicoD1 Tomorrow (or today) is part one of STANHACK, the movie... we send the 1975s ONLY FRIDAY8/23... We will send the "healers" on Sept 1... Once again, I give a standing ovation tothis group... An awesome display! And to whoever STAN really is... we appreciate the "well done" comment on the webpage. Rick, how DO we explainOBC to someone??? Subj: Thanks and Health Update Date: 96-08-23 10:10:34 EDT From: klohse@trend1.com (Kevin Lohse) To: KLohse@trend1.com I havebeen struggling through my radiation treatments (today I get treatment#7 of 10), but the good news is that they already are starting to easethe pain in my back caused by a tumor pressing against my spinal cord. Mytreatments leave me exhausted and with a condition called esophigitus whichmakes it hard to eat and digest, but I have certainly been able to enjoythe mail which has go generously been comming my way. OnTuesday I got a large puffy from Robert Moore which included 75 !! 1975 Toppswhich eliminated most of the 500 - 600 numbers that I needed. Not bad forjust starting to collect the set last week! Luckily I got the mail on the wayto the hospital, so I was able to read each and every card while I waitedthree hours for the radiation device to be repaired after it had brokendown earlier that morning! RonKingsbury sent me 12 star cards for the '75 set including Steve Carolton,Steve Garvy, Don Sutton, Carl Yastrezmski, and several MVP cards. DickCummings sent three needed '65's to shorten that wantlist even more. Each ofthe cards completed a page in my binder! Yesterday'smail brought several more '75's from Doug Smith. I didn't realizethat collecting this set would be such great fun. In these times where Iam living day by day it's really nice to get "instant bycollecting an easier set than my original HOF set where I usually only am able toadd cards on fairly rare occassions. A puffywas in also in yesterday's mail, but this one contained cards which Icertainly didn't expect. Al Cummingssent along 13 (!) '56 Topps - all from mywantlist! Let it be said that I wasstunned! Let italso be said that I need badly to pay up some debts and will begin to sendout some packages today. I also intendto go (whether I'm still exhaustedor not) to a pretty good local mall show the week after next and bring abunch of your wantlists to see what can be filled. AlsoREALLY looking forward to the Ft. Washington show at the end of Sept. andhope to see as many of you as possible. Thanksagain for your prayers, support and, of course, cardboard! Subj: OBC explanation? Date: 96-08-23 13:34:21 EDT From: CardClctor To: ChicoD1 Saw the question you posed to Rick. You probably read this last month, but I saved it 'cause the reply Josh got still holds true. I don't bother to try to explain OBC to anyone anymore - they all think I'm out of it already. People who don't collect cards think I'm crazy tocollect, and the ones who DO collect always say something like: "You mean you're GIVING the cards away for FREE???!!" Ken M -"Oh, never mind." Date: Tue, Jul 16, 1996 3:11 AM EDT From: Wite3 Subj: Ever try explaining OBC bcc: CardClctor Triedit again today for maybe the hundreth time but I got a real satisfying answerthis time. At thelocal Mall there is a small stand that sells Internet in a Box (or somethinglike it). It has computershooked up and invites people to try it out. Well...I figured why not check the homepagefrom here and see how it looks on a different computer. Did this and guy comesover. Asksthe usual question. I give him the standard answer: "A group ofcollectors, who trade over the computer, and the best group I ever found, etc" Usually people areconfused, or don't care, or justdon't get OBC but this guy just turns to me and says "So you are a bunch of people dedicatedto making each other happy through the use of your computer and a common love, baseballcards. I was blown away at how nice that sounded. So, I figured I wouldpass it on to you guys. Enjoy this great statement of the day. Hope you are as happy as I am!! Subj: HehHeh Date: 96-08-25 21:25:03 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) Hey, did anyone else get a laugh out of KevinLohse's 1975 wantlist? Of course,this isn't going to him, Just wait tilhe sees.... Subj: Where Do I Begin???? Date: 96-08-26 21:06:59 EDT From: klohse@trend1.com (Kevin Lohse) To: KLohse@trend1.com My DearOBC Friends, It isvery obvious that today was to be a very special day for me which you allhave been planning for quite a while! Ihad absolutely no clue of what I wasabout to experence when I went to the post office today. Let metry to share this experience with you. I have been making it a habit to stopand pick up the mail at the post office while on my way to the Fox ChaseCancer Instutute for my daily radiation treatments and look over any interesting(in other words, OBC) mail I may have gotten while I'm waiting forthem to treat me (usually an hour wait). Today I also happened to be forwardingthe famous baseball card, flipping, bubble gum, etc. book to KeithLenhart as well as a couple of packages of cards to other OBCers. As Istarted to unlock my mailbox, I quickly noticed that something was very differentabout my box. The box was so crammedwith mail that (with the bookand packages I hadn't yet mailed still in my hands) I couldn't even takeanything out without getting on my hands and knees and taking out littleby little and setting everything on the floor. I glanced at some of thelarger packages as I piled them on the floor. STAN HACK....STAN HACK.....STANHACK.....STAN HACK... Envelopes of all sizes and shapes. Stan Hack#33, Stan Hack 22, Stan Hack mail postmarked from seemingly every sectionof the country. And a stack of yellow cards telling me that the post officehad mail for me which couldn't fit into my box. Iglanced down at a smaller envelope which had something handwritten on the back: The healing power of cardboard!! Yes,the healing power of cardboard! I'm notsure if there was anyone else gettingmail in the foyer at the time, I started to get a bit overwhelmhed withemotion at this point. I knew thatthere were lots and lots and lots ofcards in those packages, but the thing that really got to me was all you peopletelling me that you care about me, that my life and how I feel are importantto you in some way. It seemed likehundreds of different thoughts flashedby me during the time I was in the post office. By the time the postmastercollected the remaining packages which wouldn't fit into the mailbox,I was carrying a grocery bag sized container full to the very top Bychance, I had decided to bring my 11 year old son (who I am co-collecting the '75Topps sets with) to the treatments with me today. You couldn't even imaginethe conversations that took place as he and I opened package after packageas my father-in-law drove us to the hospital! And in the waiting room. And on the way back we stopped and picked upa binder and pages so we couldget started compiling them right away. And thecards. Looks like I may have gottenthem all!! Brett rookie. Carterrookie. Yount rookie. Schmidt, Ryan, Jackson, Carew. All the key cardsseem to be here, though it's all so overwhelming I don't know for sure. And judging by shear volume it looks like Ihave enough for a couple Pleasetell me this. How could you get allthose packages sent from all overthe country to converge on the Worcester post office on a single day? I thinkthat I better stop here. So to all youmany, many Stan Hacks out there,God bless you and thanks so much for showing that you care. Subj: Kevin Date: 96-08-26 22:17:11 EDT From: JmMnt@interramp.com (Jim Montgomery) Superjob guys! As I said before Stan livesin us all. Subj: Re: HehHeh Date: 96-08-26 22:25:44 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) To: ChicoD1@aol.com I thinkit'd be great. I just wish hissituation was better. At11:53 AM 8/26/96 -0400, you wrote: > That's priceless! There's about 400 cards on that list... Doyou think >anyonewould mind if he updated that listEVERY day this week ... Subj: Stan Hack Date: 96-08-26 22:26:54 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) StanHack Rules. Subj: Devine intervention Date: 96-08-26 22:36:13 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 All - Ijust finished reading Kevin's message for the third time! How could we get all those packages sent from all over the country to converge on the Worcester post office on a single day? A possible answer is we had help! Iinvisioned the cards showing up a few at a time for the next week or so! Needless to say I was a little choked up when I thought about whatthis great group accomplished over one weekend. I will forever have an image of Kevin and his 11 year old sondiscovering "the healing power of cardboard" on his trip to thehospital today! I am very proud to be your friend and a member of this very caring group! Please indulge a few quotes that I think might fit this group: Thedifference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little extra. Some people succeed because they are destined to, but most people suceed because they are determined to. We make a living by what we get---we make a life by what we give. Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from Success comes in cans; failure comes in can'ts. THANKYOU OBC FOR BEING SO GREAT!!!!!!!!! Subj: To Everyone But Kevin Date: 96-08-26 23:42:03 EDT From: StanHack2 BCC: ChicoD1 Well,who feels better -- Kevin or us. The magic healing of cardboard works for everyone. -- Subj: RE: Kevin Date: 96-08-28 16:59:50 EDT From: ChicoD1 C'mon,you know we all have a bit of mist in the eyes... I think Trips said it How could we get all those packages sent from all over the country to converge on the Worcester post office on a single day? A possible answer is we had help! It's terrible that we have these situationsin our lives, but the fact that we are able to reach out withour hearts... Thanks to the Big Guy for helping us get the packages there like clockwork, thanks for technology,which makes it possible for us to convene as a group, and thanks to you friends, you guys helped to make a friend's situation a little more tolerable. You guys are (toquote from the Viva Kevin and OBC, ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:23:34 EDT Subject: More OBC Memories To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Thanks for re-forwarding that message about Kevin. Major bummer about his cancer... I had skincancer a few years back but only needed one surgery to get past it. I do have a friend who was one of the 5% survivors of the kind of cancer that it seems that Kevin has. If Kev would like to talk with him, I'll get the two hooked up. Now, my friend IS a Red Sox fan, so I don't know if he and Kevin would be compatible... Anyway,IMHO, I like the idea of everyone sending out a card within 24-48 hours... Theflood of mailwould be very powerful, I believe. Takecare and thanks for organizing this... ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:57:12 EDT Subject: More memories To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Subj: Re: To all but Kevin PT. 2 Date: 96-08-19 02:09:52 EDT From: ZXRM To: ChicoD1 Will I be sending the 75's to late? I havesome other cards I can send with your package. It does not matter to me. Figured I needed to get something out quick for the 75's. Looks like I wasright. This group is wonderful. See ya.. Subj: Re: To all but Kevin PT. 2 Date: 96-08-19 02:14:07 EDT From: CardClctor To: ChicoD1 Thanks for sending the original message to me. I didn't think I had gotten it. I did get a little insight when I read this part of a message from XBLX: >>Ihave contacted Kevin a couple of times to offer support and to see how he was doing. From what he tells me his type of cancer has a very low survival rate (something like5%).<< These words just crushed me. I've never met Kevin. I only know his name from a list of about sixty people called OBC. Therefore, I'd have to assume he's like ALL the people in this group that I HAVE met: People who treated me like old friends or even a brother, even whenwe met for the first time. These are people who invited me to stay in their homes for the night the very first time we ever laid eyes on each other. These are guys who have basically dumped things of monetary value into my lap without expecting anything in return except my enjoyment of the items and a 'Thank You'. I shake my head in amazement - this is all because I like to collect little piecesof cardboard! People that I never even KNEW as little as SIX WEEKS AGO are treating me likeI've been their best friend for twenty years. (Maybe better than my own familywould.) That's why this feels like it's happening to my own brother. I was crying my eyes out when I read how his body's practically infested with the cancer and how it was causing him pain. It hurt me too. I keep looking at the pile of cards I'm sending for his 75 set.5%survival; keeps running through my mind. I keep thinking I wish there was more I could do.and looking at my comparitively insignificant donation and thinking Maybe if I'm really generous, the Man Upstairs will listen to my one request - to be able to someday shake Kevin's hand and congratulate him on winning his battle. Ken M Subj: RE: To all but Kevin PT. 2 Date: 96-08-19 07:12:48 EDT From: rdn56@ipass.net (Robert Neill) To: ChicoD1@aol.com ('ChicoD1@aol.com') Gosh,stay busy for a weekend and I miss a lot! Anyway, count me in on sending the card to Kevin.My personal view is that receiving them from all over the place as separate envelopes would be more fun than one big package. But as usual, whatever the group decides is fine by me. Subj: Re: To all but Kevin PT. 2 Date: 96-08-19 13:23:37 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) To: ChicoD1@aol.com Count me in. I hope I have something good for Kevin, my dupes box is LOW! Subj: Kevin Date: 96-08-19 08:03:10 EDT From: friar4@usa.nai.net (Bob Corvello) To: ChicoD1@aol.com I'm in on this. the olde Friar Subj: Kevin's updated wantlist 8/19/96 7:13 PMWest Coast Date: 96-08-19 22:15:10 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 All -More messages coming in and the Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist is getting really short! Here is the latest list of needed cards for Kevin's 1975 Topps 1975Topps Wantlist (any condition) 70 228 300 312 620 623 I willbe glad to continue to update this list if everyone will send me a list of thecards you will be able to send! I would like to finish Kevin's list before we flood his mailbox but, anything all you want to do is fine! Anyone not having any 1975Topps might want to try something else on his list. Subj: Update: to all but Kevin... Date: 96-08-19 22:42:12 EDT From: ChicoD1 OKboys, the responses are rolling in... So far I've gotten e-mail from: Trips, Guru, Canadien George, Bill Lehuta, Robbie, Jim Montgomery, Bent Corners Bill, Trader Jim, KenCardClctr, Bob Neill, Joe Greco, and the Friar prior to the flash session. It seems the consensus is to send from our own homes on a predermined date and hope the postman rings within a couple of days. So to those who were sending cards tome...hold off. I think Sept 1 is a good day, as it will give us a chance to try and finish the 75 set.Remember, lets send the 75s separately. The one card is for the healing power of cardboard Remember, ANY card,doesn't matter who or value. The guy on it just had to make you feel good atone time or another. BTW, Trips (unless things have changed inthe last 4 hours :>), put me down forcard #312 (K Ldrs).I think that leaves us 8 shy... Just amazing! OK, that's the story from Levittown...Looking to hear from some of the other Aside- Guru, Neonknight (xnk) comes upas non-existent. Keep on crankin'! Subj: Re: Update: to all but Kevin... Date: 96-08-19 22:55:48 EDT From: jose88@newtech.net (Joe and Leah Greco) To: ChicoD1@aol.com Anyideas on what to send? Alsomsince I live just around the corner from Kevin, I wll send mine 9/2, Subj: Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist updated8/19/96 8:28 PM west coast Date: 96-08-19 23:32:48 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 All -More messages coming in and the Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist is getting really short! Here is the latest list of needed cards for Kevin's 1975 Topps 1975Topps Wantlist (any condition) 228(Brett RC), 300 (Pete Rose), 623 (Keith Hernandez RC) I addedthe Mike Schmidt to make this task even easier, of course that means it goes back on mywantlist. I will be glad to continue to update this list if everyone will sendme a list of the cards you will be able to send! Everyone that has committed to sending cards please hang on to them until we finish the list and then we will flood his mailbox! I just spoke to Tom Curtis on the phone and he is going to try and get the three remaining cards from the dealer that had the Dimagio. If Tom is successful I hope we can mail thepackages from all over the country ala STANHACK (no return addresses) before the week is out! Let me know if you have other suggestions on how to handle this! Everyone one of you make be proud to ba a part of this group,this has to be an OBC record that will not soon be broken! Subj: Re: Recap---1st of 2, to all but Kevin Date: 96-08-19 23:59:18 EDT From: kal4u2@juno.com (Keith A. Lenhart) To: ChicoD1@aol.com I would like to participate in the 'feelgood' cardboard send. Could you letme know when I should mail my card? And what is the projection date for arrival. I may want to send priority. This idea of the 'feel good' card-send choked me up when I first read it. I must congradulate you for a very warm and tender thought such as this.Hats' off to you!! ---Keith Subj: Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist updated 9:36PM West Coast Time Date: 96-08-20 00:38:05 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 All -More messages coming in and the Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist is getting reallyshort )one cardleft)! Here is the latest list ofneeded cards for Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist: 1975Topps Wantlist (any condition) 228(Brett RC) I addedthe Mike Schmidt to make this task even easier, of course that means it goesback on mywantlist. Everyone that has committed to sending cards please hang on to them until we finish the list and then we will flood his mailbox! I just spoke to Tom Curtis on the phone and he is going to try and get the last remaining card from the dealer that had theDimagio. If Tom is successfulI hope we can mail the packages from all over the country ala STANHACK (no return addresses) before the week is out! Let me know if you have other suggestions on how to handle this! Everyone one of you make be proud to ba a part of this group, this has to be an OBCr ecord that will not soon be broken! Subj: Thanks and.... hmmm Date: 96-08-20 12:51:50 EDT From: CardClctor To: CardClctor BCC: ChicoD1 On a completely different note.....Just the other day I was lamenting Kevin's situation (He's not getting this, BTW.) and I asked someone in OBC the unanswerable question: Why do bad things happen to good people?as I was rambling on as I normally do. Well, theVERY NEXT DAY, I was e-mailed this from a person who was 'inspired' to send it my way. As a preface to this,it was from a guy in another group my mom is in - under this same screen name.(I don't get enoughe-mail from this group ) The group is called AWON and is composed of WW II orphans (I'm not sure of the exact acronym). Anyway, the subject of the e-mail was Life's Ride Anyone who imagines that bliss is normal is going to waste a lot of time running around shouting that he's been robbed. The fact is that mostputts don't drop, most beef is tough, most children grow up to be just people, most successful marriages require a high degree of mutualtoleration, most jobs are more often dull than otherwise. Life islike an old time rail journey...delays, sidetracks, smoke, dust,cinders and jolts, interspersed only occassionally by beautiful vistasand thrilling bursts of speed. Thetrick is to thank the Lord forletting you have the ride." --Gordon B. Hinckley-- I don't know, but the timing of the thing kinda gave me the willies. About the onlything that was missing is that it wasn't sent from an address like: youknowwho@heaven.net.com. So if you don'tthink He works in mysterious Ken M -(Does that seem weird to you?) :-0 Subj: Re: To all but Kevin PT. 2 Date: 96-08-20 07:31:23 EDT From: Len124 To: ChicoD1 HeySal! Count me in on the special card.I usually send a card to my Christmas pal from my childhood collection every year but I'd be glad to send one to Kevin as well.I think the individual mailings would have a more lasting effect.This is just my opinion and will go along with what the majority decides.Hope all is going well. ubj: Re: Recap---1st of 2, to all but Kevin Date: 96-08-20 12:54:32 EDT From: XCIP To: ChicoD1 I'm infor Kevin! Subj: Re: To all but Kevin PT. 2 Date: 96-08-20 15:13:20 EDT From: XGKX To: ChicoD1 I was out of town for this whole deal. Is there anything left I can do? Subj: Re: Update: to all but Kevin... Date: 96-08-20 19:30:14 EDT From: JCERU8600 To: ChicoD1 Hi Sal, I havea card for Kevins "healing power of cardboard" campaign. I will stand by to hear confirmation of the mail date. Subj: Fwd: Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist updated 9:36PM West Coast Time Date: 96-08-20 21:41:24 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 All -The deal is done!!!! Great job byeveryone!!!! I even got a message that will allow me to keep the Schmidt from my collection! Wow,doesn't even express how I feel about this group! Everyone that agreeded to supply cards please put them in the mail to Kevin on friday! I just wish some of us could be at his mailbox in the coming days to see his reaction! I plan on mailing the cards I agreed to contribute without a return address and they will go out in friday's mail! AnotherBaseball Quote: "More than any other American sport, baseball creates the magnetic, addictive illusion that it can almost be understood." ------Thomas Boswell Like Baseball, this group is addictive and gives the illusion that it can almost be understood. I have no problem explaining this group to friends until I try to describe events like what happened over the last few days. Try and explain this to anyone and you will see what I mean. Subj: Re: Kevin's 1975 Topps wantlist updated 9:36 PMWest Coast Time Date: 96-08-20 13:24:08 EDT From: Curtisea To: TPLY Enjoyed talking with you the Brett(R) is a done deal! Will be ready to send out in Fridays mail....THE75 TOPPS QUEST IS COMPLETE!!!! Subj: Kevin's 1975 Topps Set (COMPLETED) Date: 96-08-20 23:48:40 EDT From: TPLY BCC: ChicoD1 All -This is the last message on Kevin's 1975 Topps set! If you agreed to send cards please send them directly to Kevin (try and mail them by friday 8/23/96). If you know you will be sending cards and may not be sure which ones you agreed to send let me know (I kept all the emails) and I will help you figure it out! Kevin's mailing address follows: Kevin Lohse P.O.Box 386 2928Hickory Drive Worcester,PA 19490 Subj: I Can't put into words... Date: 96-08-21 00:38:11 EDT From: ChicoD1 Please excuse me if this note is one big slobbering mess. I just got off the phone with Rick (Trips) as he broke some awesome news-- We have finished the 75s for Kevin! I am running the gamet of emotions- happy,sad,melancholy,ecstatic, you name 'em! #1- hearing from Rick is a joy in itself, gotta love a guy with a little west coast thing in his voice (Rmember, all YOU guys have the accents, we Lawng Islanders talk good English).We talked for about a 1/2 hour like we've know each other for ages (well 2 1/2 years at least). This group continues to amaze and restore my faith in mankind. We come from all walks of life and backrounds, yet we share a common thread. Just a little piece of cardboard. Its wild how something so small can be so strong. I literally have tears in my eyes writing this. As Rick says, this is a record that won't be broken forsome time... Completing a set in a weekend. As good as that feels, I feel kinda sad because of the reasons behind this feat. You gentlemen continue to give... and this all comes from the heart. I also want to make mention to other guys having their hardships- guys like Bing, Bill, ZZ. You guys know how I feel about you's. You all are in my prayers, always. I just keep rolling in my mind the things that have come around this group-- sending the baseballs around the country for Teenager (remind us next Monday session,we'll fill you in)-guru's Civil War checklist, flipping on line, Wayne's Seaver rook (or his son throwing Drysdale down the stairs). I have things that will stay with me forever. And you rookies--- son of a gun if you guys don't get to the OBC hall of fame. You all have lifted the spirit to astounding levels.Like Rick said, "how do you explain OBC?" it's cards, faith, hope, charity, love (quick I need more adjectives). OK, I'm babbling... let's get down to business-- The 75s will be sent from our homes on Friday on THIS week. Send them anonymous,might want to put STAN HACK on the return address. SEPT 1, we will send out the healers. Remember, back of the envelope "the Healing Power ofCardboard." Inside you may want to drop a note of encouragement and a story about your choiceof card. Thanks to Rick for the phone call and BigAl ,who had this idea the same time as me and to all for helping to pull this off. Damn, I'm getting soggy again. I'm just so proud to know and call you all my friends... Subj: Sept. 1 Date: 96-08-21 07:23:50 EDT From: ghart@headwaters.com (George Hart) To: ChicoD1@aol.com Here'sto the power of OBC and your idea for Kevin. I'll mail the Healer a day ortwo before Sept. 1, to compensate for the cross-the-border delay. Havebeen trying to Email Big Al Cattle for about 2 weeks, and they get returnedu ndeliverable.Any ideas? I'm using his earthlink address. ================= Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 23:21:47 EDT Subject: Yet another OBC memory (I will stop for now) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com INMEMORY OF KEVIN LOHSE KEVIN'SCHARITY AUCTION Thisauction is to benefit the children of Kevin Lohse. Kevin was an activetrader of old baseball cards. He died of cancer this past summer, leavinga wife and three children. The proceeds of this auction will providecollege funds for Kevin's children. All cards being auctioned weredonated by members of OBC (www.oldbaseball.com). 100% of the proceedswill benefit Kevin's children. RULESOF THE AUCTION 1. Theauction will end Wednesday, January 28, promptly at 11 PM eastern 2. Thisis an e-mail only auction. No phone bidding. Have a question -- e-mailKevinsauc@aol.com. E-mail bids recorded in order received by my computer.We know sometimes e-mail does not come through promptly, but wecan't deal with that. Bid early. 3.Bidding -- suggested minimum opening bid of $2 or 50% of the at conditionvalue of the lot. This is a charity auction and we plan to sellall lots, so these minimums are only suggested. Only whole dollar bids. Raisesmust be a minimum of 10% above the current bid. 4.Limit bids -- are accepted. "Top all" bids are not. Lots will be bid forlimit bidders at 10% above the next highest bidder up to 5.Notification -- it is my intent to notify all bidders of the status of theauction daily, more often on the last day. Notification is not 6.Payment by personal check or money order within 7 days payable to DougSmith, 2306 Woodmoor Lane, Colleyville, Texas 76034 7. Alllots in this auction have been donated. The auctioneers time is donated. There is no "buyers premium." 8.Because of the nature of this auction, the auctioneer does not own anylots and will be bidding in the auction. To protect the integrity of theauction he will not bid during the last 24 hours. 9.Please add a buck or two for postage. If you want insurance add $3 forthat. I'll send it regular US mail unless you pay for something else.I'd hoped to donate the postage but this auction got too big. 10. Ifyou're not satisfied return the lot for a full refund within 10 11. High book values come from the DecemberBeckett or the 1997 SCD Standard Catalogueof Baseball Cards. Errors are possible,check for yourself. I didn't list all the cards everyone donated for this auction and I will let Terry or perhaps others tell you how we did for his kid with the proceeds. The magic of OBC is incredible to this day! Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 07:27:30 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: '52 Parkhurst Baseball From: Dan Austin Anyone have a '52 Parkhurst baseball card that they could scan and send me a .jpg file? I'm having a hard time locating a pic... Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:01:40 EDT Subject: OBC memory lane....V96, the first eVent To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com Notes from the first eVent: VEGAS 96... The Beginning..... Day 1 George and Lucy Hay came in last night to complete the OBC group, Margaret gave them a tour of Southern Nevada (and almost California) before finding the Hair house!! Al (AlCattle) and Dotty Cummings, Mike (MCzape), Rick (Tply) Ellison and the Hairs went to a Star's (Padres AAA) for a double header 'gainst the Calgary Cannons( Pirates AAA, is that an oxymoron?). Perfect day to play two, with the seats in the second row from the field, right behind home plate..... Rob Deer (Stars) hit two home runs and a double to bring his minor league BA almost up to his lifetime major average (.220). As it turns out, MCzape is a genius... With runners on first and second, the Cannons pitcher bunts the ball.... the Stars pitcher fields it, starts to look to first when Coach Czape yells out " THIRD BASE ", the pitcher turns and gets the runner at third. And Mike says he only likes football... Between innings, the diamond vision welcomes the groups in attendance, with the first one being the OBC!!! Were, famous, our name in lights in Las Vegas! Alas, official photographer Czape missed the photo opportunity. As the people in the stadium (about as many as usually see an A's game in Oakland) are expecting trading out of us, I bought everyone a pack of UV cards for some spirited trading at the park. Big Al makes out like a bandit with a Cal Ripken gold card which immediately is deemed a franchise card, and not for trade. Coach Czape, loyal to football cards, gives his players to Tply and takes my Rob Deer card on a quest for an autograph. Tply and TopGolf continue trading, with Tply driving hard bargains , but not touching my Piazza. Coach Czape returns without the autograph, but the experience motivated Deer to crack his second homer of the day. Of course, as the card informs us, he is a .261 lifetime hitter against lefties. This Hr is somewhat uncharacteristic of Deer, as it goes to centerfield, where only 11% of his hits go, or so we are informed by his card.. After the game it was off to Henderson for some real trading as everyone breaks out their dupe boxes, and the cardboard flies! Special agent Maragret calls around 6:30 to inform us that the Hays' have hit town, and that she will be to the Henderson base camp shortly. The rest of the crew have started round one of Ribfest, and talk of an annual outing is brought up. More ribs (and did I mention beer) ensue, with the mobile unit still not in camp. More ribs (and, as mentioned before, beer) brings up the subject of the Dodgers superiority over the Giants, and other deep subjects... Ok Coach Czape, Little Jo'...Eighter from Decateur, Poppy needs new shoes.... Tply makes an appeal for just two of the ribs set aside for the wandering minstrels, and slips them onto a plate without (hardly) anyone noticing. As 8:00 approaches, Tply announces that he is not at all worried about the missing , and seeming late, satellite group, and makes a few phone calls to confirm his lack of concern. (Al takes a well deserved nap in order to conserve energy) and MCzape talks of the fishing trip he has lined up after Vegas 96... you know, vacation, fishing trip to prepare for the labor day The traveling band shows up at 9:08, which was just about the time that Tply expected them. Ribs (and beer) for all one more time, although the video may show first rounders who participated in round two. After a group problem solving exercise... ten people, two vans, two hotels, a trip to the airport to pick up UnkPhil, and one last try for the Ripken Gold,... all went to the safety of their rooms (or maybe out gambling) for a good night's sleep. Today: The OBC golf Championships at noon, and a get together at Sam's Town Having a wonderful time, wish you were here!!! ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:04:21 EDT Subject: OBC memories...V96 part deux To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com Subj: VEGAS 96, links and drinks Date: 96-05-21 12:02:40 EDT From: Topgolf Hey all, VEGAS 96 continues with the Very 1st Annual OBC Golf Classic and a surprise birthday party for Trips at the Final Score Sports Bar at Sam's Town... After the hoopla of Sunday, it was late morning before the group got started (well, for me anyway, there are reports of some gambling form the out of towners). Angel Park Golf Course was the site of the Very First Annual Golf Tournament (Must be present to win). Some of the Highlights: A minor problem: Four players, and two sets of clubs (and one set of those are left handed). Solution: Top cleans out his garage and comes up with a set of his wife's clubs, three bags and three pairs of shoes. Result: The OBC foursome looks like a Michelob commercial as they trade banter and lies approaching the 1st tee. You would have had to look real close to see George Hay's Lady Dianna 4 iron. Rick looks the part of a pro with his name on his bag, and MCzape certainly doesn't have to worry about the 14 club rule. The first tee: After TopGolf leads off with a clean base hit to the leftfield fence, MCzape sees little difference between the well groomed putting green and the felt of the craps tables that he was pried away from for the golf game. He coolly runs in a birdie putt to take the early lead, and set the standard by which play will be judged. What's so hard about this game called golf? On the Rocks: TopGolf, a confessed Rockies fan (after the Dodgers) forsakes the green of the fairways for the rocks of the Las Vegas desert. On the fourth hole, he thinks he has mastered the rock game, after hitting over the green, his rock shot flies over the green, into the fairway, which strategically sets up a (by MCzape's measurement) a 36ft 3in chip in for par. Having mastered that hole the next hole is played the same way, at least until the rock shot yield the ball going about ten feet, but sending a rock the size of a baseball onto the green. Unfortunately, the rock , although being on a perfect line, lost it's roundness some during the Mesozoic period and doesn't quite roll far enough. Welcome to the Island: The turning point of the game came on the 10th hole: the dreaded Island green: Soon to be Las Vegas resident Mike Czape, who by this time had found a number of balls during the round (only a few of which belonged to other golfers on the course at the time) mistook the lake for the ballwasher, with a few nicely played shots into the water. George Hay took the path less traveled by delaying the crossing of the water and hit his ball into a little used area of the golf course. With his ball up against a cart path, on a precarious slope of the lake, a little known rule of golf had to be invoked. ..."when a ball lays against a cart path, on a precarious slope, on an island green, the royal and ancient rules of golf are automatically superseded by the OBC rules of play". I may not have the wording exactly right, but it is a rule... you can look it up! George was granted permission for the ruling body to put his ball on a piece of grass and play it from there. And , I believe it actually touched the green before going in the Add Welcome to the Island: So where, you may ask, was Trips during all this? (intentionally left blank while you say (out loud) "So, where was Trips during all this?") Glad you asked. After joining Coach Czape in a sacrifice to the water gods, Rick hit a towering shot to the green that left him a rather lengthy putt. Rick, a recent graduate of the Albert Belle school of putting let loose with the putt that was destined for greatness and one that will possible never be duplicated in the future OBC tournaments. Although never leaving the ground, the putt missed the cup, ran through the green, by a gallant save attempt by George and into the water! It's not just anyone who can invoke a penalty shot with a putter! Life don't get any better than this: The day was perfect, temp in the high 80s, a light breeze to keep you cool( and to blame any movement in the golf ball) the drink cart was never to far away, and most of all the company was great. The only thing that could have made it better would be to look behind us and see 8 or nine more OBC groups in the tournament! The Scoreboard: In the Very First Annual OBC Golf Classic, space only permits that we list the first four places ( complete results can be obtained by mailing $19.95 to the Golf Classic Headquarters). The first four places (in alphabetically order, not order of finish) were: Mike Czape Rick Ellison Mike Hair George Hay NOTE: The tournament committee is looking into the (C)zape name, and future alphabetical results may list him at the bottom rather that the top of the Most Birdies, Round : 1, Mczape Most Birdie putt attempts: 3, TriplePlay Most pars, without birdie putt attempts: 4, TopGolf Best Shoes: George Hay Most Fun, in alphabetical order: Mike Czape,Rick Ellison,Mike Hair,George Hay Enter the Night: After golf, and a visit to the clubhouse for a cold one, it was back to the hotels (Rick and George will have to explain the shower situation) it was off to the Final Score Sports Bar for an evening orchestrated by UnkPhil. Leading off the nite were platters of nachos, wings, mozzarella sticks, and bottomless pitchers of beer. The OBC photo album made the rounds, with most people remarking who they though Howard was not as grizzled as they thought. Overall, a fine looking bunch of characters! After quelling the hunger, Phil presented Trips, in the throws of a surprise birthday party, (and Maragret and Richard) with signed limited edition lithographs of their favorite A's players. I will respect Trip's right to not reveal his age, but think he looks pretty good for someone born in 1951. The Final Score took great care of us, although they did have to invoke the rules when we tried to have a 3 on 3 basketball game in their court designed for two people. The game, which may have drawn more spectators than the Sonics game on the big screens, gave way to a round robin game of horse (soon to become a game of pig) won by George Hay on a 360 slam dunk (ok a 12 foot jump shot). After looking through the memorabilia at the bar, everyone went to there respective gambling stations for a night of fun and profit(?) Tuesday: ???????? ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:09:46 EDT Subject: OOBC memories V96 day trey To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: topgolf@aol.com We're the OBC, and we come in peace... Tuesday was a day to wind down, and catch our breathe. But we partied instead. The day started with the departure of our spiritual leader, Big Al and his wife Dotty. We love ya, man .... I know, we still can't have your Ripken Gold! As the Hay's and Ellison's shopped, Captain Mike Czape attended a craps class at Caesar's. Gee, we almost had it right, but now Mike had all the answers (more on that later). As the others shopped, the Mike's (Czape and Hair) were left on their own, but on different paths. But, as if by magic were united as they wandered (seemingly) aimless though the masses of Vegas. It was then off to meet the rest of the group at the place that they weren't at. Undaunted, the Mike duo adjusted plans and found the group, that by this time included Unk Phil and his friend, and proceeded to Planet Hollywood for a bit of lunch. The party of nine was escorted to a table for six, and after squeezing into the booth (we were so crowded that we couldn't laugh "ha-ha" we had to laugh "ho-ho" ) negotiated an additional table for the group. Rick had been to a store in the forum and got a ball for us all to sign, George Hay on the sweet spot. After the meal (did I mention I like mine rare?) Rick was reduced to begging for spare change to pay the bill, as will be recorded in the photo album. After lunch it was time for another group problem solving exercise, but this one was fairly easy, Margaret and her friend Pat were off for more shopping, Unk and Friend has some business before UnkPhilFriend was to take center stage in a slot tourney, and the rest of us were off to the Vegas card shop scene... We are the OBC, and we come in First stop was Smokey's, long famous card shop. When Rick explained that we are the OBC and we come in peace, Smokey himself was summonsed from a nearby restaurant to give us the deals of the century. Unfortunately, not this century. Lucy Hay was the first to spot the fatal flaws in the UV basketball, which was priced way to high. Smokey pulled out his off conditioned tabacco cards and seemed very proud of himself when he offered them to us for $10 each. Not to this crowd, Smokey. Continuing our quest, it was off to the "House of Cards", a shop that I was not familiar with, but that AL had mentioned earlier that he had seen an ad for. Knowing that it was on Karen Street, Top navigated the group (without the help of Mr. Map Mike Czape, who, mapwise, was having an off day) in the general vacinity of the place. As Top called on a phone at 7-11, the rest of the group went inside where Mczape received a quick lesson from the rest of the group in video poker. Meanwhile, Top was on the phone to House of Cards: TOP: We're the OBC, a group of collectors from all over the US, and we come in peace... CARD GUY: Oh, you'll love the store... TOP: we're at Maryland Parkway and Karen, how do we get to your store... CARD GUY: Turn left on Maryland Parkway, Go to Sahara and turn right, go down to the next stoplight, turn left, go to the next street turn left, go to the third set of stores and turn right, turn left again and we're behind the Jewelry store. (a few minute pass while Mczape receive the aforementioned lesson in video TRIPS: What did the card guy say? TOP: Ah, let's go back down Karen Street, I think I can find it. We are the OBC, and we come in peace. House of Cards!! Nevada's largest!!!, we finally arrive!! Trouble is, there are no cards. Or at least no baseball cards. Lucy cards, Army men cards, and even a untouched wax box of Beverly Hillbilly cards, which at $22.00 was somewhat of a risk, because, as we all know, the Jethro card was a SP, and the Granny refractor has been rumored to be widely counterfeited. It all didn't matter, as the shop guy didn't acknowledge our existence till we were on the way out. His loss, a little better customer service, and we may have bought every Gilligan's Island card in the place. Undaunted our fearless group set out on the rest of the three hour tour (and the background singers add "a three hour tour"). with the next shop a BASEBALL card shop down the road. We are the OBC, and we come in peace. This shop reflected the intelligence of the owner. It also reflected the light that came in through the curtainless window, and faded out everything on display. No cards bought, but Mczape picked up a copy of Plimpton's Paper Lion for a buck. Trips looked at a baseball book, but figured it may take him all summer to read it, so he passed on it. Headed back to the Hotel, Trips was momentarily confused by the hotel that mysteriously changed from the west to the east side of the street (did I mention that Mr Map was having a bad day). But, as in the earlier chance meeting of the Mikes, a side trip through a parking lot took us right beside UnkPhil and UnkPhilFriend. "Candy, Little Girl??" (a great joke if you were there) 3Play taxi shuttled all to there respective home bases and all regrouped for the nighttime activities. Where oh Where is UnkPhil.... It came time for dinner and no UnkPhil. UnkPhil, who had explained line passes to us, UnkPhil, the man of many coupons, UnkPhil, Mr. Comp. was no where to be found. So we ate without him. Line passes are cool though... some 200-300 people waiting in line at the Rio buffet, and we went right to the front of the line... Excuse us, we must be in the front row..... Great dinner, but still no UnkPhil. We are the OBC, and we come in peace. After dinner, it was off to the craps table, with our new found knowledge and newly elected team captain MCzape at the helm. Unfortunately, he didn't learn about storm warnings. "The weather it was getting rough, and the tiny ship was tossed, if not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Minnow would be lost... (Background singers: "the Minnow would be lost...) WE ARE THE OBC, AND WE COME IN PEACE!!! Barely getting out of the Rio with our wallets in tack, we pulled together and looked for calmer waters at the Gold Coast. Any port in a storm. But, as luck would have it, this port turned into paradise, or is it pair of dice? Captain MCzape lead the charge, and Craps Rookie of The Year (I said CROY, not LeRoy) George Hay went on a streak that even had him leaving the yard That's all this sailor has to report, after getting healthy (financially) I had to leave (some of us have to work the next day) and as I left, I saw the rest of them become very comfortable on their newfound Island, off the Gold Coast. No worries, mon. We are the OBC, and we come in peace...... ================= Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 13:37:44 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Memory From: larry.tipton@netzero.net I remember those 1992 Topps "winners" cards. Each package of 1992 Topps baseball cards included a scratch off game card. If you scratched off the right boxes you would win a 1992 Topps Gold Winner card. Sure to be extremely valuable! Somebody reported on Prodigy that if you held up the scratch off card to a light source just right, you could see through the scratch off stuff and see the correct answer. I can still remember my son Joey and I busting open a box of 1992 Topps cards in the bathroom so we could hold up those game cards to the bathroom lights. And sure enough a "Winner" every I want to thank everyone for their words of encouragement to me and my family. I know that God has a plan for me and I know that He is in control. I know how I want things to turn out, but, I need to let go and let God. I am sleeping better, walking almost every day, and trying to take care of myself. OBC helps. ================= To: Subject: Help--identification Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 09:46:10 -0400 From: "Robert Neill" Does anyone have any idea what these are? As many of you know, I collect various and sundry Wheaties items. I have been learning that General Mills,and Wheaties in particular, had more give-aways, etc than I ever dreamed possible. These photos look somewhat familiar--any ideas? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item1173109137 ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:16:57 -0400 From: "wells" Cubs and Braves ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 5:07 AM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] New poll for OBC-Ramblings > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > OBC-Ramblings group: > Your 2 favorite current NL teams are: > o Astros > o Reds > o Brewers > o Phillies > o Cubs > o Braves > o Pirates > o Dodgers > o Expos > o Cardinals > o Rockies > o Marlins > o Giants > o Padres > o Mets > o Diamond Backs > To vote, please visit the following web page: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/polls > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups > web site listed above. > Thanks! > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 11:41:53 EDT Subject: Back from Australia To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jocraig@aol.com Well, guys, I have returned from 10 glorious weeks "down under" and am renewed and ready to get back in the swing of things. I unsubscribed to all of the "yahoogroups" while I was gone so I hope I didn't miss anything too exciting. If I did, someone please fill me in. I'm preparing about 7 or 8 small packages to go out. So if you collect "woodies" look in your mailbox in the new few days. ================= To: Subject: Ebay lot of Mantles Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:55:39 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:06:10 EDT Subject: Go to 1966 Art To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sweendoger@aol.com How come there are more players named Pedro and Jose than Pete or Joe in Bas-eh-bol today? What happened to the days when most guys were named bob and dick? I guess that is what happens when athletes are more hungry and cheaper south of the border? Its nice to come home after being out-of-town all week to find a few packages in the mail (plus 350 e-mails!) ...Big thanks to -> ART WAINWRIGHT for six 1966 beauties that include a Moe, Dick, Fred, Don, Jake and Joe. Thanks Art KENT GOTO for four 1966 much needed hits that included Joe, Fred, Bob, and another Dick. Thanks Kent Thanks OBC! ================= Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 13:16:48 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Calling all HOMers To: geordie@cell2000.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, dan@iamdanaustin.com From: Sweendoger@aol.com I nominated Billy Buckner. Here is some stuff if you want to grow the HOM page. Thanks, Pat Bill Buckner Nickname(s): Billy Bucks Born: 1949 1B-OF-DH 1969- Dodgers, Cubs , Red Sox, Angels, Royals 1970 286 (rookie) 1971 #529 1972 #114 1973 #368 1974 #505 1975 #244 1976 #253 1977 #27 1978 #673 1979 #346 1975 Kelloggs #32 1976 Sportcards Publishing Company #91 Led League in ba 80 All-Star in 1981 Games Average HR RBI Career 2495 .289 173 1205 League CS 11 .196 0 3 World Series 12 .212 1 2 Bill Buckner will forever be remembered for the Mookie Wilson ground ball that went through his legs in the sixth game of the 1986 World Series and cost Boston the championship, but he should be remembered as an outstanding hitter and fielder who overcame serious injuries. A consistent outfielder with the Dodgers (1969-76), he went with Ivan DeJesus to the Cubs for Rick Monday. Shifting to first base, Buckner hit .300 with Chicago (1977-84), won the 1980 batting title and twice led the league in doubles (1981 and '83). Playing on gimpy ankles, Buckner had outstanding seasons at Boston in 1985 and 1986 after coming over for Dennis Eckersley. He tied a major league record by playing 162 games at first base in 1985 and broke the ML record he set in 1983 for assists at the position with 184. Entering the 1990 season, he led all active players with 2,707 career hits. (ME) BASEBALL CHRONOLOGY =BB June 6th, 1968: Tim Foli is the top choice in the regular phase of the free-agent draft. The A's take Pete Broberg with the second pick, but he opts to attend Dartmouth instead. Cecil Cooper lasts until the 27th round. The big winners are the Dodgers, who, in the January draft and the regular and secondary June drafts, select 15 players who end up in the ML. Among them: Davey Lopes, Geoff Zahn, Bill Buckner, Joe Ferguson, Tom Paciorek, Bobby Valentine, Steve Garvey, and Ron Cey. =BB January 11th, 1977: In a 5-player swap, the Cubs send OF Rick Mondayto Dodgers for 1B-OF Bill Buckner and SS Ivan DeJesus. =BB May 17th, 1979: The wind is really blowing out at Wrigley as the Cubs and the Phillies (5) combine for a ML- record-tying 11 HRs during a wild 10-inning slugfest won 23-22 by the Phils. Dave Kingman has three HRs and six RBI for the Cubs. Teammate Bill Buckner has a grand slam and seven RBI. Mike Schmidt's two HRs include the game-winner in the 10th. =BB July 31st, 1982: Phillies 2B Manny Trillo misplays Bill Buckner's grounder in the seventh inning of a 2-0 win over the Cubs, ending his errorless string at 89 games and 479 consecutive chances. He falls two games short of Joe Morgan's record 91-game streak, and his 479 straight chances set a major-league record. =BB May 25th, 1984: The Red Sox trade P Dennis Eckersley and minor leaguer Brumley to the Cubs for veteran Bill Buckner, who had been benched in Chicago in favor of Leon Durham but will immediately become Boston's starting 1B. =BB August 7th, 1984: Bill Buckner and Tony Armas each hit grand slams off Tigers ace Jack Morris to spark the Red Sox to a 12-7 victory in the first game of a doubleheader split. =BB October 25th, 1986: Trailing 5-3 with 2 out and no one on base in the bottom of the 10th inning, New York rallies to win game 6 of the World Series 6-5 and force a deciding 7th game. After Gary Carter, Kevin Mitchell, and Ray Knight single, Bob Stanley uncorks a wild pitch that permits the tying run to score, and a hobbled Bill Buckner lets Mookie Wilson's slow bouncer skip through his legs, allowing Knight to score the winning run. =BB May 19th, 1987: Bill Buckner raps his 2,500th career hit, a single off Saberhagen in Boston's 4-1 loss to Kansas City. =BB July 23rd, 1987: The Red Sox waive Bill Buckner, the goat of last season's World Series loss to the Mets, and promote slugger Sam Horn from Pawtucket . =BB April 25th, 1990: At Fenway, gimpy-legged Bill Buckner, 41, hoofs out inside-the-park home run for the Red Sox. It will be his only homer in this, his last, season. =BB August 4th, 1992: An unidentified buyer purchases a toothpick once used Mets Hall of Fame P Tom Seaver at a memorabilia auction in New York for $400. At the same auction, actor Charlie Sheen pays $85,000 for the ball hit by Mookie Wilson which went through Bill Buckner=E2=99s legs to end Game Six of the 1986 WS. In a message dated 7/27/01 8:19:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, geordie@cell2000.net writes: > Subj: [OBC-Ramblings] Calling all HOMers > Date: 7/27/01 8:19:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time > From: geordie@cell2000.net (Geordie Calvert) > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (Ramblings (OBC)) > Hello all! > As you may know, Dan is in the process of overhauling the Hall of > page on the OBC site. He has added, or will be adding, card checklists, > pictures and links to each player's page (did you know there is actually a > Dickie Thon fan site with dues-paying members numbering in the tens?? > is - www.dickiethon.com - check it out!). Part of that page includes a > of that player's cards. That's where you come in. > If possible, will each player's nominator compile as complete a list as > possible of your player's cards. These can include main issues (Topps, > Bowman etc.), regional issues and other oddballs. I was going through my > annual looking for Rick Monday stuff, and there were lots of items in > A lot of them aren't cards the way we think of them, but collecting discs > other oddball stuff is a lot of fun. Also, with the current frenzy in the > end of the hobby, some players have had cards reissued or other cards made > honoring them. Put those on the list if you'd like. > Some other things your player's page can use? Any interesting links of > player, such as the above Dickie Thon site. Also, why did you nominate > player? Write up a short 1-3 paragraph account of why your player > enshrinement in the HOM.. > Those OBCers that don't know much about the HOM and would like to > participate, here is the skinny, direct from the HOM page: > The HOM is a place where great players of the past, who have little hope > entering the hall of fame, are honored for their careers which brought joy > many fans. > Mediocrity - The word mediocrity is not in any way to be taken as a slam > against these guys. The word mediocre has its' origin in the Old Latin, and > literally means "half way up the hill," which all of these guys certainly > were. In our opinion, anyone who ever got to throw one pitch, or had only > at bat, or only got to pinch-run once, made it! > RULES of eligibility: > a.. No chance of ever making the "real" Hall > b.. Must have played in the majors (or had a baseball card issued) prior > to 1980 > c.. Must be nominated by a current OBC member > d.. No more than 1 player may be nominated by any individual > Thanks for reading! > Geordie ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: SportsFest Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 15:16:05 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" I attended Sportsfest in Chicago yesterday. Lots of tables, not too many ungraded vintage dealers, the same dealers each year, most prices rather high, not too many customers on Friday, but -- I did find a G-VG 1952 Topps JoePage with the Sain bio on back for $14. That took care of a card on my wantlist for the last 20 years. Also Krause Publications had 1 year subscriptions for $39 and gave you back $30 in credit to be used at any dealer table.In addition they had sent subscribers coupons for free admission - another$10 saving. In effect if you subscribed to SCD they gave you $1. With my $30 I got a 1957 Bart Starr rookie in poor shape. Scratch it off the list. George Vrechek ================= Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 16:30:54 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: CoolPix 8/4 From: Rick & Deb Fellow Baseball Enthusiasts (OBC Brethren)... Baseball is cool. Baseball pictures are cool. Action photos..player portraits..paintings..drawings....they're cool. Below is a link to a cool baseball picture. Let the picture load (you may have to hit reload) and if you think it's cool...enjoy it...see if you know who it is..."relate" to it. Let it remind you of just how cool baseball really is. If you like, save it to a disc..or your own "Cool Baseball Pictures" folder. (..you'll have to name it yourself) I'll share a different cool baseball picture (.jpg) with ramblings subscribers on a semi-regular basis. (I promise they won't ALL be Phillies) LAST CoolPix: "PHIRST-PLACE PHILLIES" THE LINK --> http://www.mypage.onemain.com/debrick/images/111cool.jpg You don't have to if you don't want to....but you can. Thanx...Rick Svetecz...Baseball Fan/American ================= Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 00:27:00 EDT Subject: I'm back online To: OBC-ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: RWP521@AOL.COM Hello All, A week ago Friday my wife was totally frustrated trying to playing The Sims on our computer. I only had 24mb RAM and the game constantly stuttered. Everybody said adding more RAM was simple and it was on sale for only $20.00. We went and bought the little piece of plastic and happily went home to install it. She told me to let her write an email to all her friends in case something happened. Being confidant in my mechanical ability I didn't do the same. Needless to say I've been offline since. The thing just beeped at me. No picture on the screen just the constant beeping. Well, I finally have admitted defeat and have a new CPU. Let's hope I don't break this one. I have many thanks to get out so don't think I have forgotten anybody. I used my free time to restock the dupes box and will get to work soon. It's been great reading all the mail that has piled up especially the OBC history. Thanks to all of you my sets have been filling up nicely. Take care. ================= To: Subject: Help on Identification Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 08:53:01 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" They look like Jay Publishing picture pack cards which are plentiful and not that expensive. However the team name is not shown. If they are 5 by 7, they are probably 1951 General Mills Premium Photos. "Actual date of issue unknown...small alphanumeric identifier in right corner." If VG condition values are Musial $4.50, Feller $7.50, Berra $9, Mantle $45, Lemon $6, Campanella $9, Rosen $4.50, Ashburn $7.50 - 8 players issued - per Krause Publications 2001 catalog. Go for it George Vrechek ================= To: Subject: 50's non-sports Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:31:28 -0400 From: "Bob" Can anyone reccommend a dealer who has 50's Topps non-sports? I only need two from the Flags of the World, and am also interested in Look n See, Presidents and Airplanes. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: what would you do? Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:47:32 From: "Al Cummings" I bid on a lot of auctions. I win my share, but this one bothers me. I bid and won a lot of "62s" on Yahoo. I send the money, and the guy gives me a "good" rating. Now today, he changes it to a "neutral" because I did not rate him. His comments follow: >The rating system in on line trading is very important >for the buyer & the >seller it lets other perspective >buyer's & seller's know who & what they >are dealing >with so when you rate me I'll give yours back Deal >Completed I have been tossing it around, from denying I got the cards to saying the lot was junk to ignoring it and eating the bad rating. It is like blackmail! Big Al in Seattle Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: grains@dccnet.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 23:25:37 From: "Al Cummings" The 60 card should definatly be in the Tipton Wall of Shame. As bad as they Big Al in Seattle >From: "Grant Rainsley" >To: >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:55:39 -0700 >If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:09:44 -0400 To: Al Cummings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot What I wonder is just how much is Dan willing to spend to keep these rare specimens in the OBC community? Could be fun to guess the final bid amount on these beauties. I'll take a stab at $43.50 for the lot, that would be $45 with shipping. Come on guys make your guess!!!! BE WELL!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * Al Cummings wrote: > The 60 card should definatly be in the Tipton Wall of Shame. As bad as they > get. > Big Al in Seattle > >From: "Grant Rainsley" > >To: > >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles > >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:55:39 -0700 > > > > > >If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:19:48 -0400 To: Al Cummings Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what would you do? From: Mark S Talbot Well Al, I guess it depends on if you 1) liked the cards, 2) liked the service, and 3) would have given a good rating to this fellow in the first place. If you answered yes to all three then I would write the feedback, wait a reasonable amount of time for him to correct your rating and then conveniently cease doing business with that fellow. If on the other hand you did not answer yes to all those questions then let us know the id of this scoundrel so none of the rest of us needs to bothered by such juvenile acts. And his actions are just that very immature for a business person, my guess is he may be very young and not very business savvy. GOOD LUCK AL!!! - Keep us posted. REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * Al Cummings wrote: > I bid on a lot of auctions. I win my share, but this one bothers me. I bid > and won a lot of "62s" on Yahoo. I send the money, and the guy gives me a > "good" rating. Now today, he changes it to a "neutral" because I did not > rate him. His comments follow: > >The rating system in on line trading is very important >for the buyer & the > >seller it lets other perspective >buyer's & seller's know who & what they > >are dealing >with so when you rate me I'll give yours back Deal >Completed > I have been tossing it around, from denying I got the cards to saying the > lot was junk to ignoring it and eating the bad rating. It is like blackmail! > Big Al in Seattle > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "Al Cummings" , "Mark S Talbot" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what would you do? Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:34:40 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" Al and OBC -- My personal technique is to always leave feedback unless the person makes more than about $1.00 extra on the postage (taking into account the package). I don't mind paying $3 for a card, but it better come encased in steel with insurance and not a 34 cent stamp. I generally skip feedback on those clowns, or leave neutral at best... Take Care, Geno ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark S Talbot" To: "Al Cummings" Cc: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what would you do? > Well Al, > I guess it depends on if you 1) liked the cards, 2) liked the > and 3) would have given a good rating to this fellow in the first place. > you answered yes to all three then I would write the feedback, wait a > reasonable amount of time for him to correct your rating and then > cease doing business with that fellow. If on the other hand you did not > yes to all those questions then let us know the id of this scoundrel so none of > the rest of us needs to bothered by such juvenile acts. And his actions > just that very immature for a business person, my guess is he may be very > and not very business savvy. GOOD LUCK AL!!! - Keep us posted. > REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK > "Live long and prosper" - Spock > ********************************* > * Mark S. Talbot * > * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * > * Sterling Heights, MI. * > * 48312-4604 * > * talbot1@home.com * > ********************************* > ***************************************************** > Al Cummings wrote: > > I bid on a lot of auctions. I win my share, but this one bothers me. I > > and won a lot of "62s" on Yahoo. I send the money, and the guy gives me > > "good" rating. Now today, he changes it to a "neutral" because I did not > > rate him. His comments follow: > > >The rating system in on line trading is very important >for the buyer & > > >seller it lets other perspective >buyer's & seller's know who & what > > >are dealing >with so when you rate me I'll give yours back Deal > > I have been tossing it around, from denying I got the cards to saying > > lot was junk to ignoring it and eating the bad rating. It is like > > > > Big Al in Seattle > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: back from the beach Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 01:02:38 From: "jeff sinclair" hey guys, returned this evening sunbaked and worn out from the sun and sea. some packages await me on the table and my house sitter neglected to mail some care packages so i'll get caught up in a day or two. do you remember the feel of the candy store steps? Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: talbot1@home.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 03:00:37 From: "Al Cummings" The 1960 books for $450 so it has to go over $80. My guess for all the rare Tipton cards is $109 Big Al in Seattle >From: Mark S Talbot >To: Al Cummings >CC: grains@dccnet.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles >Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:09:44 -0400 > What I wonder is just how much is Dan willing to spend to keep these >specimens in the OBC community? Could be fun to guess the final bid amount >these beauties. I'll take a stab at $43.50 for the lot, that would be $45 >with shipping. Come on guys make your guess!!!! BE WELL!!! >REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK >"Live long and prosper" - Spock > ********************************* > * Mark S. Talbot * > * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * > * Sterling Heights, MI. * > * 48312-4604 * > * talbot1@home.com * > ********************************* >Al Cummings wrote: > > The 60 card should definatly be in the Tipton Wall of Shame. As bad as > > get. > > > > Big Al in Seattle > > > > >From: "Grant Rainsley" > > >To: > > >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles > > >Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:55:39 -0700 > > > > > > > > >If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 > > > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: illini90@earthlink.net, talbot1@home.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what would you do? Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 03:29:54 From: "Al Cummings" Well, the only reason I have not given feedback yet is I am not sure I got the cards. I am way behind but no one has ever been this uptight about getting a check mark by their name. A couple people have asked for the seller ID and I see no reason not to give it out. You could find it on Yahoo anyhow. His Yahoo ID is panarcom. He left the Good rating on July 30, so saying he mailed my cards out that day, I would have gotten them Friday or not at all. I only go to the PO Box 3 days a week unless I have a load to mail. I have not looked at Friday's mail. Not sure I looked at any mail this week . Thanks for the support and keep sending your opinions. Big Al in Seattle >From: "Geno Wagner" >Reply-To: "Geno Wagner" >To: "Al Cummings" , "Mark S Talbot" >CC: >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what would you do? >Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:34:40 -0700 >Al and OBC -- >My personal technique is to always leave feedback unless the person makes >more than about $1.00 extra on the postage (taking into account the >package). I don't mind paying $3 for a card, but it better come encased in >steel with insurance and not a 34 cent stamp. I generally skip feedback on >those clowns, or leave neutral at best... >Take Care, Geno >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark S Talbot" >To: "Al Cummings" >Cc: >Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:19 PM >Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] what would you do? > > Well Al, > > > > I guess it depends on if you 1) liked the cards, 2) liked the > > and 3) would have given a good rating to this fellow in the first place. > > you answered yes to all three then I would write the feedback, wait a > > reasonable amount of time for him to correct your rating and then > > cease doing business with that fellow. If on the other hand you did not > > yes to all those questions then let us know the id of this scoundrel so >none of > > the rest of us needs to bothered by such juvenile acts. And his actions > > just that very immature for a business person, my guess is he may be > > and not very business savvy. GOOD LUCK AL!!! - Keep us posted. > > > > REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK > > > > "Live long and prosper" - Spock > > > > ********************************* > > * Mark S. Talbot * > > * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * > > * Sterling Heights, MI. * > > * 48312-4604 * > > * talbot1@home.com * > > ********************************* > > > > ***************************************************** > > > > > > > > Al Cummings wrote: > > > > > I bid on a lot of auctions. I win my share, but this one bothers me. I > > > and won a lot of "62s" on Yahoo. I send the money, and the guy gives > > > "good" rating. Now today, he changes it to a "neutral" because I did > > > rate him. His comments follow: > > > >The rating system in on line trading is very important >for the buyer > > > >seller it lets other perspective >buyer's & seller's know who & what > > > >are dealing >with so when you rate me I'll give yours back Deal > >Completed > > > I have been tossing it around, from denying I got the cards to saying > > > lot was junk to ignoring it and eating the bad rating. It is like > > > > > > Big Al in Seattle > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: Subject: Mantle lot on Ebay Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 23:45:47 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Grant's Guess: $78.25 ================= Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 12:33:30 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, alcattle@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot Well 3 days to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Grant - $ 78.25 Al - $109.00 Dan got bounced off the boards last night - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * Grant Rainsley wrote: > If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 ================= Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:04:30 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, alcattle@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, TPLY@aol.com, tldietrick@yahoo.com, nthomas@pol.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot Well Neal Thomas is making a bid for these treasures, only 3 days to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Rick - $ 60.10 Grant - $ 78.25 Al - $109.00 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? Dan got bounced off the boards last night, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you posted!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * > Grant Rainsley wrote: >> If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 ================= Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:16:01 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, alcattle@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, TPLY@aol.com, tldietrick@yahoo.com, nthomas@pol.net, RWP521@aol.com, geordie@cell2000.net Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot Have to add a few more guesses to add to the mix. We're all pulling for Neal Thomas who's making a bid for these treasures, only 3 days to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Rick - $ 60.10 Grant - $ 78.25 Geordie - $ 85.51 Al - $109.00 Robert - $125.51 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? Dan got bounced off the boards last night, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * >> Grant Rainsley wrote: >> > If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for >> > OBC: >> > >> > http >> > //cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 ================= Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:11:54 EDT Subject: Pardon My Detour Into The World of College Football To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: MatShirley@aol.com Content-Language: en But I just thought that a few of you gys out there would really enjoy this.I ROLL TIDE!!! > Subject: FW: If the SEC was a group of countries... > >As sports fans, we straddle parallel universes. > >We complain bitterly over our teams=E2=99 failures and > >foibles, but we don=E2=99t suffer anyone else who tries to > >come up with a put down. We love our teams fiercely, > >defending their honor against all insult hurlers > >foreign and domestic. It=E2=99s like where you live. The > >streets are full of potholes, the climate would > >qualify for inmate cruelty and you wouldn=E2=99t protest > >seeing every elected official rounded up for medical > >experiments. But, you tell yourself, here is better > >than where all those other lobotomized morons live. > >Here at Time Out, we=E2=99ve decided to cross-pollinate > >these two ideas. How, we wondered, would the > >Southeastern Conference look as the League of Nations? > > > >ALABAMA would be England. It used to be said that the > >sun never set on > >the British Empire, but these days the old empire is > >in eclipse. Same for > >Alabama =E2=94 just substitute fish and chips for ribs from > >Dreamland. Alabama still thinks of the SEC as its > >personal playground. But like in Merry > >Olde England, they=E2=99re clinging too hard to the past. > >Most people avoid history like it=E2=99s radioactive. > >They=E2=99ve forgotten Churchill, they=E2=99re forgetting > >Bear Bryant, believe it or not. Rule Britannia, Roll > >Tide. Catchy, but it=E2=99ll never be the same again. > > > >AUBURN would be Canada, the picturesque former > >commonwealth forced to live on the same block as the > >neighborhood superpower. Try as they might, Auburn > >and Canada never escape the shadow of big brother. > > > >ARKANSAS would be ... well, who knows? Who cares? Has > >anyone ever actually been to Fayetteville? Does it > >really exist? For all we know it=E2=99s Antarctica with > >hillbilly accents and Wal-Marts. They invented them > >there, you know. By there we mean Arkansas, though we > >hear Antarctica is getting a Wal-Mart > >next month. > > > >FLORIDA would be Saudi Arabia. Both were once known > >for sand and nary a second thought. Not anymore. > >Today the Saudis control the oil reserves, the Gators > >control the talent pool. Neither one looks like their > >going to run out of natural resources and fade back > >into obscurity anytime soon. > > > >GEORGIA would be ... Georgia. Not really. The U of G > >is more like China. Lots of people, lots of resources, > >been there forever, generally never lives up > >to expectations. But you=E2=99re always worried that one > >day they will. > > > >KENTUCKY is to the SEC what Norway is to the rest of > >the world, northern outposts where they perfect games > >that no one else is familiar with. While the > >rest of the world plays soccer, Norway rules > >everything on skis and skates. > >While the rest of the SEC plays football, Kentucky > >plays basketball so well you > >would think they could play on skates. At every other > >sport, both stink. > > > >LSU, the knee-jerk reaction would say, is France. But > >LSU is not as rude nor has it ever been that > >Napoleonic terror that made SEC members flee > >to the Ukraine. No LSU is more like some Third World > >country. It=E2=99s exotic and dangerous =E2=94 to itself and > >others. Every year the rest of the SEC is left to > >wonder,"Does LSU have The Bomb, or will it bomb?" > >Think Casablanca in Morocco, or India. > > > >OLE MISS is kind of like Austria. Pastoral, polite, > >well-mannered. A place where you wouldn=E2=99t be surprised > >to learn that the biggest component of the gross > >domestic product is poetry. You sort of recall that > >they were once into some nasty business (segregation, > >World War I), but these days both are mostly harmless. > >Pass me some Faulkner and a mint julep and put on some > >Mozart. > > > >MISSISSIPPI STATE is like Turkey. You don=E2=99t really > >know what they do there. You don=E2=99t really want to go > >there. You don=E2=99t know where they get their money from. > >You also wouldn=E2=99t want to mess with anyone from there. > >They=E2=99ll never rule the world, but you think Turk or > >Bulldog and you just know they could ruin your day. > > > >SOUTH CAROLINA would be Japan. Both are in the Far > >East. Unlike Turkey or MSU, you wouldn=E2=99t mind going > >there one day, but it=E2=99s just too much trouble. > >Recently South Carolina and Japan thought they would > >take over, athletically and economically, but it > >didn=E2=99t work out. South Carolina keeps changing coaches > >as fast as Japan changes prime ministers. > > > >TENNESSEE would be Russia. Both look big and imposing > >on a map, have lots of people, are places where > >American blue jeans are popular. Both worry you, but > >both leave you asking if they are true superpowers. > >By the way, do I want to hear "Rocky Top" more than > >once when I go to Knoxville this fall? Nyet. > > > >VANDERBILT is last, and least, it=E2=99s like Greece. Both > >places are home to ancient wisdom and tradition, but > >neither has won a war since Alexander the Great was > >ranked No. 1. And we have serious doubts that either > >can host an Olympics by itself. ================= To: Subject: address of the Pigeon coop? (sorry) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 19:47:30 -0500 From: "tim newcomb" Robert Pigeon-- I have some cards to send you but can't seem to find an OBC dir with your address-- please send it to me and I'll get these cards in the Best, Tim Newcomb ================= To: Subject: Robert's address Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:08:50 -0500 From: "tim newcomb" Got it, thanks to all! ================= Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 23:47:52 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, alcattle@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, TPLY@aol.com, tldietrick@yahoo.com, nthomas@pol.net, RWP521@aol.com, geordie@cell2000.net, rredpath@hotmail.com, rdn56@nc.rr.com Subject: Update - Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot Have to add a few more guesses to add to the mix. We're all pulling for Neal Thomas who's making a bid for these treasures, only 3 days to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Rick E. - $ 60.10 Rick R. - $ 64.20 Grant - $ 78.25 Geordie - $ 85.51 Bob N. - $ 93.80 Al - $109.00 Robert P. - $125.51 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? Dan got bounced off the boards last night, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you posted!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * >> > >> > Grant Rainsley wrote: >> > >> >> If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for >> >> OBC: >> >> >> >> http >> >> //cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 >> > ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 05:46:44 -0400 (EDT) To: Mark S Talbot , Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, alcattle@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, TPLY@aol.com, tldietrick@yahoo.com, RWP521@aol.com, geordie@cell2000.net, rredpath@hotmail.com, rdn56@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Update - Ebay lot of Mantles From: Neal Thomas I put a bid in because it would be a tragedy for these beauties to land outside OBC! ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: Mark S Talbot Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Update - Ebay lot of Mantles Date: 08/06/2001 11:47pm Have to add a few more guesses to add to the mix. We're all pulling for Neal Thomas who's making a bid for these treasures, only 3 days to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Rick E. - $ 60.10 Rick R. - $ 64.20 Grant - $ 78.25 Geordie - $ 85.51 Bob N. - $ 93.80 Al - $109.00 Robert P. - $125.51 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? Dan got bounced off the boards last night, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you posted!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * >> > >> > Grant Rainsley wrote: >> > >> >> If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for >> >> OBC: >> >> >> >> http >> >> //cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 >> > ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:19:41 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Red Sox article From: Neal Thomas For you non-Red Sox fans, this is what it feels like: http://espn.go.com/page2/s/simmons/010725.html ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: For the Mantle collector in your life... Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 09:26:50 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Here is a Tipton 59 Mantle looking for a good home.... -- I would put a bid in, but I'm not planning on upgrading my 59 set. -Lovely Day, Iggy... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1173711997 ================= Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 13:55:04 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Insurance question From: john harrell About a year and a half or more ago there were some inquiries about insurance coverage for card collections. I called the company recommended by Jim Montgomery (Cleland and Associates) and they quoted me a price of $22.50 per $1000 assessed value. They also require a home security system (which I have) and a T-15 or T-30 home safe. My homeowners policy with Allstate doesn't cover sports cards. In fact I've yet to find anyone else who will. Can anybody out there steer me toward another company? ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 16:13:45 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Good reference site From: Neal Thomas Hi guys- Came across this site--not a bad collection of information: http://www.geocities.com/chrisstufflestreet/ Even has an OBC link. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: VERSION TWO... Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction. ...LONGGG.... Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:04:26 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello card traders, After much tossing and turning over the weekend, trying to decide which cards go where, I've decided to make a few "minor" but very long-winded changes to my 3rd-year anniversary Sale/Auction. First of all, the name has changed. It's now called, "Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Auction." It is not a perfect process, by any means, and will surely result in a handful of bidders not receiving anything. But, I will try to give some consolation prizes for those shut-out of the process. What I like about this format is, it feels like you won something, thereby not feeling indebted to me in anyway. Please keep in mind, these cards are in OBC lower grade condition and I'm basically, just trying to have a little fun -- obviously, at your expense, since this will require alot more reading then what you were prepared for. Oh well, I haven't lost my marbles, and I'm not really sure what I'm doing, but I'm proceeding with this anyways... This will probably be very confusing, but should become clearer (I hope?) as we play....Here goes... Rules and Regulations... Welcome to Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary modular-nine auction. All bidders have been assigned a bidder number (which was the order in which a reply to my original email was received). Anyone who has yet to bid and wishes to partake of the festivities, please email me so I may assign you a bidder number. The bidder number was then converted to what I call a "modular-nine" format (for example, if you are bidder #021 then your "modular-nine bidder number" is "3" (2+1=3), if you are bidder number 029 then your "modular-nine bidder number" is "2" (2+9=11 1+1=2), etc, etc.... Hence, all bidders now have a single digit number" from 1 thru 9. This "modular-nine bidder number" will be used to determine whether you win a given lot and is your assign bidder number. With me so far......great....there is more....... Subsequently, a modular-nine "NUMBER OF THE DAY" will be randomly selected based on the score of a pre-selected baseball game. For example, if the "number of the day" is #006, and your "bidder number" is #006, you automatically win "1" lot (or less) of your choosing. So, if your bidder number matches the "number of the day", just send me an email with the lot number you want (please provide a 2nd and 3rd preference with your choice). In the event, two or more bidders win the same lot, the order in which the email was received determines the winner. Once a lot is won, the high bidder and his/her family are no longer eligible to win an item until all bidding ends (then the process will start again, if so inclined...). The NUMBER OF THE DAY and the WINNING BIDDERS will be posted on the RAMBLING server on a daily basis (every morning). The modular-nine Number of the day will be the combined box score of (8/7/2001) Arizona vs Florida game. or if the game is rained-out or cancelled then we used: (8/7/2001) Detriot vs Texas game. So "IF" tonight's FLA vs ARI box score reads as follows: R H E 3 6 0 5 11 2 The modular-nine "number of the day" is: "9" 3+5=8 8+6=14 (1+4)=5 5+11=16 (1+6)=7 7+0=7 7+2=9. or the more detailed version to create more confusion: 3(runs) + 5(runs) = 8 8 + 6(hits) = 14 1 + 4 = 5 5 + 11(hits)= 16 1 + 6 = 7 7 + 0(errors)=7 7 + 2(errors)=9 In my example, all OBCer with a bidder number of "9" will win one lot (of their choosing) from my auction. Here are the pre-assigned bidder numbers (hopefully, I did not omit any of the bidders). 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R. Robinson, K.Summers 002: D.Smith, Matt Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry 007: Griffen, Redpath, Paris, Bama 008: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings 009: Rainsely, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek Lot# YR DESC. 001 1956 Jackie Robinson #030 (****) 002 1956 Schoendienst #165 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 005 1958 Roseboro RC #042 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 025 1958 Aaron A/S #488 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #5?? 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 042 1960 Mathews #420 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 050 1961 Ruth #401 (*****) 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 073 1962 Maris #313 (*****) 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 090 1963 Musial #250 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 104 1965 Berra #470 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 121 1966 Niekro #456 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 139 1967 Rose #430 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 164 1970 Carlton OPC #220 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards 167 1971 Marichal #325 168 1971 Brock #625 169 1972 Aaron #299 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) ================= Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 17:43:04 -0500 To: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VERSION TWO... Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction. ...LONGGG.... From: Michael Wierzbicki What if both games are rained out? Mike W. "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" wrote: > Hello card traders, > After much tossing and turning over the weekend, trying to decide which > cards go where, I've decided to make a few "minor" but very long-winded > changes to my 3rd-year anniversary Sale/Auction. First of all, the name has > changed. It's now called, "Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine > Auction." It is not a perfect process, by any means, and will surely result > in a handful of bidders not receiving anything. But, I will try to give > some consolation prizes for those shut-out of the process. What I like > about this format is, it feels like you won something, thereby not feeling > indebted to me in anyway. Please keep in mind, these cards are in OBC lower > grade condition and I'm basically, just trying to have a little fun -- > obviously, at your expense, since this will require alot more reading then > what you were prepared for. Oh well, I haven't lost my marbles, and I'm not > really sure what I'm doing, but I'm proceeding with this anyways... > This will probably be very confusing, but should become clearer (I hope?) as > we play....Here goes... > Rules and Regulations... > Welcome to Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary modular-nine auction. All > bidders have been assigned a bidder number (which was the order in which a > reply to my original email was received). Anyone who has yet to bid and > wishes to partake of the festivities, please email me so I may assign you a > bidder number. The bidder number was then converted to what I call a > "modular-nine" format (for example, if you are bidder #021 then your > "modular-nine bidder number" is "3" (2+1=3), if you are bidder number 029 > then your "modular-nine bidder number" is "2" (2+9=11 1+1=2), etc, etc.... > Hence, all bidders now have a single digit number" from 1 thru 9. This > "modular-nine bidder number" will be used to determine whether you win a > given lot and is your assign bidder number. With me so > far......great....there is more....... > Subsequently, a modular-nine "NUMBER OF THE DAY" will be randomly > selected based on the score of a pre-selected baseball game. For example, > if the "number of the day" is #006, and your "bidder number" is #006, you > automatically win "1" lot (or less) of your choosing. So, if your bidder > number matches the "number of the day", just send me an email with the lot > number you want (please provide a 2nd and 3rd preference with your choice). > In the event, two or more bidders win the same lot, the order in which the > email was received determines the winner. Once a lot is won, the high > bidder and his/her family are no longer eligible to win an item until all > bidding ends (then the process will start again, if so inclined...). The > NUMBER OF THE DAY and the WINNING BIDDERS will be posted on the RAMBLING > server on a daily basis (every morning). > The modular-nine Number of the day will be the combined box score of > tonight's: > (8/7/2001) Arizona vs Florida game. > or if the game is rained-out or cancelled then we used: > (8/7/2001) Detriot vs Texas game. > So "IF" tonight's FLA vs ARI box score reads as follows: > R H E > 3 6 0 > 5 11 2 > The modular-nine "number of the day" is: "9" > 3+5=8 8+6=14 (1+4)=5 5+11=16 (1+6)=7 7+0=7 7+2=9. > or the more detailed version to create more confusion: > 3(runs) + 5(runs) = 8 > 8 + 6(hits) = 14 > 1 + 4 = 5 > 5 + 11(hits)= 16 > 1 + 6 = 7 > 7 + 0(errors)=7 > 7 + 2(errors)=9 > In my example, all OBCer with a bidder number of "9" will win one lot (of > their choosing) from my auction. > Here are the pre-assigned bidder numbers (hopefully, I did not omit any of > the bidders). > Bidder > # > 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R. Robinson, K.Summers > 002: D.Smith, Matt Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West > 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson > 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo > 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells > 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry > 007: Griffen, Redpath, Paris, Bama > 008: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings > 009: Rainsely, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek > Lot# YR DESC. > 001 1956 Jackie Robinson #030 (****) > 002 1956 Schoendienst #165 > 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) > 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 > 005 1958 Roseboro RC #042 > 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 > 007 1958 Zimmer #077 > 008 1958 Snider #088 > 009 1958 Bunning #115 > 010 1958 Indians TC #158 > 011 1958 Larsen #161 > 012 1958 Hodges #162 > 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) > 014 1958 Martin #271 > 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 > 016 1958 Labine #305 > 017 1958 Newcombe #340 > 018 1958 Battey #364 > 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) > 020 1958 Tigers #397 > 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 > 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) > 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 > 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 > 025 1958 Aaron A/S #488 > 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) > 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) > 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) > 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 > 030 1959 Cepeda #390 > 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 > 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 > 033 1959 Colavitio #420 > 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) > 035 1959 hi #554 > 036 1959 hi #555 > 037 1959 hi #568 > 038 1959 hi #5?? > 039 1960 Musial #250 > 040 1960 Hodges #295 > 041 1960 Colavito #400 > 042 1960 Mathews #420 > 043 1960 F Robinson #490 > 044 1960 hi #556 > 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 > 046 1961 Groat #001 > 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) > 048 1961 Ashburn #088 > 049 1961 Yankees #228 > 050 1961 Ruth #401 (*****) > 051 1961 Berra #472 > 052 1961 Kaline #429 > 053 1961 Davis RC #506 > 054 1962 Whitte #014 > 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) > 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) > 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) > 058 1962 Musial #050 > 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 > 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) > 061 1962 Powell RC #099 > 062 1962 Davis #108 > 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) > 064 1962 Ruth #136 > 065 1962 Ruth #142 > 066 1962 McCarver #167 > 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) > 068 1962 Torre RC #218 > 069 1962 WS #233 > 070 1962 WS #236 > 071 1962 WS #237 > 072 1962 Maris #313 > 073 1962 Maris #313 (*****) > 074 1962 Killebrew #316 > 075 1962 Aparicio #325 > 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 > 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 > 078 1962 Wynn #385 > 079 1962 Cash #466 > 080 1962 A/S #467 > 081 1962 Indians hi #537 > 082 1963 LL #010 > 083 1963 Kaline #025 > 084 1963 Kaline #025 > 085 1963 Stengel #043 > 086 1963 Ashburn #135 > 087 1963 Perry #169 > 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) > 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 > 090 1963 Musial #250 > 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) > 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 > 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) > 094 1964 McCarver #429 > 095 1965 Mays LL #006 > 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) > 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) > 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) > 099 1965 Stengel #187 > 100 1965 Spahn #205 > 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) > 102 1965 Gibson #320 > 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) > 104 1965 Berra #470 > 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) > 106 1965 Fox #485 > 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) > 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 > 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 > 110 1966 Perez #072 > 111 1966 Aparicio #090 > 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) > 113 1966 Banks #110 > 114 1966 Killebrew #120 > 115 1966 Cepeda #132 > 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) > 117 1966 Morgan #195 > 118 1966 Mays LL #217 > 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 > 120 1966 Kaline #410 > 121 1966 Niekro #456 > 122 1967 Champs #001 > 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed > 124 1967 Cepeda #020 > 125 1967 Maris #045 > 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) > 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) > 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 > 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 > 130 1967 Mathews #166 > 131 1967 Gibson #210 > 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) > 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) > 134 1967 LL #243 > 135 1967 Aaron #250 > 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) > 137 1967 Perry #320 > 138 1967 Hunter #369 > 139 1967 Rose #430 > 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 > 141 1968 LL #004 > 142 1968 LL #009 > 143 1968 B Robinson #020 > 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 > 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) > 146 1968 Perry #082 > 147 1968 Stargell #086 > 148 1968 Colavito #099 > 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) > 150 1968 Perez #130 > 151 1968 Morgan #144 > 152 1968 Oliva #165 > 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) > 154 1968 Stargell #290 > 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 > 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 > 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) > 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) > 159 1969 Stargell #545 > 160 1969 B Robinson #550 > 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 > 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 > 163 1970 Yaz #010 > 164 1970 Carlton OPC #220 > 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 > 166 small group of 1970 cards > 167 1971 Marichal #325 > 168 1971 Brock #625 > 169 1972 Aaron #299 > 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:18:46 -0400 Subject: ye olde cards To: OCT members , "vct@yahoogroups.com" , OBC_Ramblings From: brock hattox This fellow seems legitimate and worthy of some help to finish that 1977 Hostess Brock HATTOX -------------Forwarded Message----------------- From: "June and Tom Hartloff", INTERNET:juneandtom@truevine.net To: , bhattox CC: , INTERNET:juneandtom@truevine.net Date: 8/7/101 4:48 AM RE: ye olde cards Hello Mr. Ecru! I stumbled across your ID and web page when I was going through 1952 Topps cards on eBay and saw the near-set being offered, but I don't have the dough, or rather I have the dough but I also have a mortgage, etc. I looked at your want lists and went to my den and dug out my 1977 Hostess cards. I need Nos. 6, 10, 25, 28 and 142 for a complete set. I have dupes of Nos. 3, 23, 33, 35, 57, 94, 98 and 126 but alas, none of those on your list. I knew there had to be some else in the world who collected them. Not many of mine came from box panels; most came off individual packs of Hostess cupcakes and Twinkies and so most have grease stains. Boy, those cupcakes were good. It sounds like we got similar starts in collecting. I grew up in Hamburg, New York, a small town 11 miles south of Buffalo. My card memories: The first card I had was a 1951 Bowman Ellis Kinder, a third- grade pal gave me. The first pack I bought was at the Ben Franklin 5 & 10 in Hamburg. My mom gave me a dime, figuring I'd buy two nickel candy bars (remember?) but was dismayed when I picked a 15-card 1953 Topps cello pack. The rest is history. By the way, I'm "jimmywakeley" on eBay. He was my favorite singing cowboy of the 40s and 50s. I know, I misspelled Wakely. My real moniker is Tom Hartloff. I live in West Haverstraw, NY, a dot on the Hudson R., 30 miles north of New York City. I've been in the newspaper business for 35 years, mostly as a sportswriter but am currently out of work on disability. I love old baseball cards, but most of mine are in less than "G" condition. Your OCT group sounds good. I don't have a web page yet, but my daughter is a certified Microsoft technician. Best regards and happy collecting, Tom. ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: juneandtom@truevine.net Received: from proxy2.truevine.net (proxy2.truevine.net [208.130.9.223]) by siaag1af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) with ESMTP id EAA13263 for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from truevine.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by proxy2.truevine.net (8.11.4/8.11.0) with SMTP id f778lxc06784; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:47:59 -0400 X-Spam-Warn: See Received: from 208.130.9.223 (proxying for unknown) (iWayMail authenticated user juneandtom) by mailbox.msdemo.itech-mke.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1641.208.130.9.223.997174079.iwaymail@mailbox.msdemo.itech-mke.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 04:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ye olde cards From: "June and Tom Hartloff" To: Cc: X-Mailer: iWayMail (version 1.1.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 ================= To: ignacio@miami.edu, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] VERSION TWO... Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction. ...LONGGG.... Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 23:27:24 From: "Al Cummings" May I suggest a couple addition to clear up a problem that might happen later in the contest. When you lose bidders that have won, change the numbers. OK, Day one #9 in the game number, 4 bidders have #9 the first day. Assume it is even, that bring the bidders to 36 from 40. Redraw the numbers so you have 3 bidders on each number and 6 numbers have 4 bidders, and so on until you have less than 10 bidders. Then each group will be assigned 2 game numbers, and continue that until only one bidder remains. He will win that day. With 147 lots, everyone will win 3 lots and it will take about 2 seasons to finish. The other option is to use log numbers to change the number assigned to each bidder, referring to the cosine as a reference point. AS everyone knows using the sine as a reference point would be against the rules of Baseball, no one can use each others sines. One last thing, I guess I am assigned #8 and not cousin Dick (Cummings) as I wrote in and there would be added letters if we both were in the game; like JE and JA Giambi. Big Al in Seattle Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: I'm back (bet you didn't know I was gone..) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 17:37:15 -0600 From: "Todd Knowles" E-mail server difficulties have kept me from getting my OBC fix lately, but everything appears to be back on track. If you sent me a message in the last week, I wasn't ignoring you, I just didn't get it. I never met an OBCer I didn't like.... ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 19:57:01 -0400 Subject: Collection for sale To: OCT members , "vct@yahoogroups.com" , OBC_Ramblings From: brock hattox Met a fellow Atlantan tonight who contacted me about a Yankees collection for sale. It included Mantles from 1955 Bowman through 1969T along with Marises, Berras, Fords and commons. I passed on the collection because there were very few upgrades to my sets. If anyone would like for me to fax the listing of this collection, along with the condition, in order to contact him, please let me know. Condition was G/VG to EX., some lesser because of removable paper on Take care, Brock H. ================= Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 02:18:39 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Going To Camden Yards From: coop951@optonline.net Hi Guys As some of you might know I work on television commercials ,movies and music videos .I am a Key Grip (funny titled guy at the end of movies ) Im off to Camden Yards this weekend to work on a commercial with Cal Ripken.If any of you need something from Camden I can try to pick it up.Sorry no autograph requests as they are all mine , but any other stuff I can try to get.LMK Jim Cooper ================= Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 21:53:24 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: OBC Anniversary Giveaway From: Michael Wierzbicki Hi, All! Here is a list of availables. I will try to distribute them equitably, giving first priority to any OBCers to whom I owe cards: Topps 1955: 32 54 58 59 61 72 105 130 132 Topps 1958: 163 388 417 (Furillo) Topps 1959: 5 487 Topps 1960: 164 Topps 1961: 20 (Roberts) 132 Topps 1962: 78 460 512 Topps 1963: 23 529 Topps 1964: 84 101 167 265 297 336 348 453 Topps 1965: 17 27 27 28 51 52 80 80 84 85 87 88 93 94 105 105 108 109 139 197 Topps 1966: 21 244 454 454 493 Topps 1967: 228 464 513 Topps 1974: 41 175 652 123T Topps 1975: 145 526 543 Topps 1976: 642 Topps 1978: 425 539 656 Topps 1979: 65 359 527 671 684 Fleer 1971 World Series (Black Backs): 35 41 Mike Wierzbicki ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: We Have Some Winners in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary MODULAR-NINE Auction Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:03:57 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Bidders, I will make this short and sweet. After tabulating the results of tonight's ARI vs FLA game. The MODULAR-NINE number of the day is "8" Will the following bidders: Reed, Yaz, Paris, & Al Cummings Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:18:05 EDT Subject: old story To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: txpoobah@aol.com The best has to be the Bowman Rookie Cards. All of a sudden we all started getting packages from Mustang Ok..... the GURU's former home. Each one was a beat to hell Bowman rookie card with a blank back. where the hell were these things coming from? The ever wise Poobah had the Guru figured out. Just not his technique. He was taking his Makita sander to sweepstakes inserts from the 89 Bowman set (Ashburn, Berra, Mantle, Williams). gone was the entry form on the back and the word "reprint" on the front. run them over some bike spokes and hell the looked half real. Finally the Poobah struck. I had a ton of those things. Actually the set that got me to collecting again. I have the original 54 B Williams. I sanded one down too. Laid the original in the copier and made a copy of the back. Cut that part out, taped the reprint with a blank back in the hole and ran that through the copier bypass. Out came a 54 B Williams. One problem. The back is upside down and its all black (no red like the Sent it on the Guru.... closest he'll ever come to a 54B williams :>)))))) I remain ================= Date: 8 Aug 2001 07:16:17 -0000 From: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Poll results for OBC-Ramblings The following OBC-Ramblings poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: Your 2 favorite current NL teams are: CHOICES AND RESULTS - Astros, 2 votes, 7.69% - Reds, 2 votes, 7.69% - Brewers, 0 votes, 0.00% - Phillies, 1 votes, 3.85% - Cubs, 6 votes, 23.08% - Braves, 3 votes, 11.54% - Pirates, 3 votes, 11.54% - Dodgers, 3 votes, 11.54% - Expos, 0 votes, 0.00% - Cardinals, 0 votes, 0.00% - Rockies, 2 votes, 7.69% - Marlins, 1 votes, 3.85% - Giants, 2 votes, 7.69% - Padres, 0 votes, 0.00% - Mets, 1 votes, 3.85% - Diamond Backs, 0 votes, 0.00% INDIVIDUAL VOTES - Astros - MatShirley@aol.com - Sweendoger@aol.com - Reds - talbot1@home.com - tply@aol.com - Brewers - Phillies - debrick@onemain.com - Cubs - illini90@earthlink.net - nthomas@pol.net - cskelley@tampabay.rr.com - debrick@onemain.com - talbot1@home.com - tldietrick@yahoo.com - Braves - keithsummers@webtv.net - dan@iamdanaustin.com - MatShirley@aol.com - Pirates - keithsummers@webtv.net - nthomas@pol.net - tldietrick@yahoo.com - Dodgers - Sweendoger@aol.com - tnbw@gci.net - XTrJmx@aol.com - Expos - Cardinals - Rockies - dan@iamdanaustin.com - XTrJmx@aol.com - Marlins - cskelley@tampabay.rr.com - Giants - tnbw@gci.net - tply@aol.com - Padres - Mets - okeedokee@pipeline.com - Diamond Backs For more information about this group, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/ ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction.....Day Two..... Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:41:04 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Bidders, So far, so good. The first day of my "Modular-Nine Auction" went better then anticipated. All four "Modular 8" high bidders claimed their lots. Although, I must say, upon learning of their auction win, a couple of them were obviously over-come with emotion. The email I was sent (by the high bidders) left me a bit teary-eyed. But I digress, as per the rules and regulations, Reed, Yaz, Paris, & Al Cummings are no longer eligible to play until the 2nd-round. As a special bonus, I've added another 20 lots to the auction (see the end of this email). Once the baseball game or games of the day end, if you feel you've won, feel free to send me an email. I will set priority on the order I receive the email, followed by any preferences you might have given me beforehand. My plan is to run this auction probably for a couple of weeks, before I end the process. So those not playing, please be patient. To speed things up a little bit, "two" Modular-Nine Numbers of the Day will be selected (with priority given to game #001 winners). TODAY's GAME#001 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/8/2001): Colorado vs Cubs (game time: 2:20 ET) TODAY's GAME#002 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/8/2001): Toronto vs Seattle (game time: 10:05 ET) If either game is postponed then we use: 1. Houston vs Atlanta or/and 2. Boston vs Oakland or/and 3. NY Yankees vs Tampa Here are today bidders! Bidder numbers are the same, except we have a couple of new additions, plus, I had mistakenly omitted Mark Talbot from the original list(---argh!---how could I have forgotten Spock)...: 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers 002: D.Smith, M.Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil 007: Griffen, Redpath, Bama, Wiehe 008: Rainsely, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot 009: Rainsely, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot Rules and Regulations UPDATE: Since I did not want to initially overwhelm the bidders with instructions. I omitted one tiny detail..... When, like the castaway's in the TV-show "Survivor," a high bidder is booted-off the auction, his bidder number shall be given to the proceeding bidders (thereby increasing the odds of those bidders). For today's first game (COL vs CUB), Rainsely, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, and Talbot have a slight statistical advantage. Following Lots were claimed: 001 1956 J Robinson 005 1958 Roseboro RC 073 1962 Marris WS (*****) 104 1965 Berra Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to today's high bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 002 1956 Schoendienst #165 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 025 1958 Aaron A/S #488 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 042 1960 Mathews #420 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 050 1961 Ruth #401 (*****) 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 090 1963 Musial #250 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 121 1966 Niekro #456 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 139 1967 Rose #430 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 164 1970 Carlton OPC #220 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards 167 1971 Marichal #325 168 1971 Brock #625 169 1972 Aaron #299 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 175 1960 Musial #250 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 180 1962 Aaron #320 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton (*****) denotes true Tipton.... ================= Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 13:07:14 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, alcattle@hotmail.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, TPLY@aol.com, tldietrick@yahoo.com, nthomas@pol.net, RWP521@aol.com, geordie@cell2000.net, rredpath@hotmail.com, rdn56@nc.rr.com, larry.tipton@netzero.net, TraderDoug@aol.com, KEITH Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Update - Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot New Update - Have to add a few more guesses to add to the mix. We're all pulling for Neal Thomas who's making a bid for these treasures, a little less than 2 days to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Rick E. - $ 60.10 Rick R. - $ 64.20 Grant - $ 78.25 Guru - $ 80.00 Geordie - $ 85.51 Bob N. - $ 93.80 Doug - $101.00 Al - $109.00 Keith - $111.40 Robert P. - $125.51 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? It has not moved for over a day now, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * >> >> >> >> Grant Rainsley wrote: >> >> >> >> > If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for >> >> > OBC: >> >> > >> >> > http >> >> > //cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1174513821 >> >> ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Auction....Day Two Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:21:27 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Bidders, After tabulating the results of Tonight's game #001 (Col vs Cubs), the MODULAR-NINE number of the day is "1" . Will the following bidders: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R. Robinson, and K. Summers Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:36:53 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Poll results for OBC-Ramblings To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Well it figures. We collect beat up old cards no one else wants and the Cubs are our favorite team by a landslide. The Cubs have now entered their August slump. Wait till next year !! - Doug ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: RE: Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Auction....Day Two G Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:46:58 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Just as an FYI: Game 2 will start soon (TOR vs SEA), plus an updated bidder list is attached. Good luck! Don't feel discourage, obviously we had a few OBCers who had played Modular-9 beforehand... TODAY's GAME#002 MOD-9 Number of the Day Contest (8/8/2001): Toronto vs Seattle (game time: 10:05 ET) If tonights game #002 is postponed then we use: 1. Houston vs Atlanta or/and 2. Boston vs Oakland or/and 3. NY Yankees vs Tampa Here are tonight's bidders! 001: D.Smith, M.Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West 002: D.Smith, M.Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil 007: Griffen, Redpath, Bama, Wiehe, Brian L. 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 23:55:29 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, Subject: New Update - Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot New Update - I have visions of Mantle cards dancing in my head, and they all look like they were well loved as all Mantle cards should. Have to add a few more guesses to add to the mix. We're all pulling for Neal Thomas who's making a bid for these treasures, a little less than a day and a half to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so far: Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Brock - $ 51.51 Rick E. - $ 60.10 Rick R. - $ 64.20 Jeff - $ 69.97 Grant - $ 78.25 Guru - $ 80.00 Geordie - $ 85.51 Bob N. - $ 93.80 Doug - $101.00 Al - $109.00 Keith - $111.40 Robert P. - $125.51 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? It has not moved for over 2 days now, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you posted!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * Grant Rainsley wrote: If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: ================= Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 04:06:01 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: What a great class! (read: Availables!) From: Josephine Sue Young I am the lucky third member of this 3 year class along with Iggy and Wierzbicki. Given the great example set forth by my classmates, I must follow suit. I thought about putting a restriction on who gets these...something like anyone who understands Iggy's allocation process is automatically banned from participating...but I think I'll leave it open to Iggy too. Come and get them... T206 Knabe, Congalton 52T's 84 107 211 225 53T's 7 116 145 53B's 49 100 106 132 55T's 72 78 81 101 110 56T's 14 49 51 75 159 230 242 277 57T's 26 46 61 96 217 360 60T's 25 41 80 107 111 113 120 122 147 162 184 211 229 286 290 316 371 373 61T's 5 6 12-17 22 31-34 36 39 40 54 56 58 59 60 62 71 72 74 77 78 81 82 94 96 99 115 121 124 125 129 130 131 146 155 158 163 165 169 172 179 182 188 189 193 195 197 198 201-205 212 216 217 218 220 225 226 231 232 233 236 237 239 240 241 246 247 248 253 254 258 259 260 266 267 270 271 274 277 279 281 283 284 332 335 342 4447 452 508 62's 556 558 559 565 574 582 62 posts 89 98 118 162 181 67's 3 6 11 18 19 22 26 27 34 39 43 46 47 58 67 76 78 81 84 87 89 96 98 101 149 202 224 246 253 256 263 68's 24 34 53 71 139 142 157 162 168170 171 179 181 183 196 197 198 199 202 203 206 207 208 210 212-219 221 223 224 227 228 229 232 234 237 237 239 241 243 244 245 246 249 252 254 255 258 260 261 262 265 266 267 269 270 271 272 274 275 276 277 278 281 282 284 286 287 288 295 297 Let me know what you need... ================= Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 11:55:11 -0400 To: Grant Rainsley , dan@iamdanaustin.com, Subject: New Update - 24 hours left - Ebay lot of Mantles From: Mark S Talbot New Update - I have visions of Mantle cards dancing in my head, and they all look like they were well loved as all Mantle cards should. There are 24 hours left and we have a growing list of OBCers that think they can guess the high bid on these fabulous cards - Are there any more guesses? We're all pulling for Neal Thomas who's making a bid for these treasures, a little less than a day and a half to go on these OBC specials Mantle cards in Tipton-finest and here are the guesses so Dan - $ 30.10 Mark - $ 43.50 Brock - $ 51.51 Rick E. - $ 60.10 Rick R. - $ 64.20 Jeff - $ 69.97 Grant - $ 78.25 Guru - $ 80.00 Geordie - $ 85.51 Bob N. - $ 93.80 Doug - $101.00 Al - $109.00 Keith - $111.40 Robert P. - $125.51 Terry - $151.50 Neal - ????? It has not moved for over 2 days now, Neal has it just about up to my guess - so who will get these prizes and for how much? Go ahead and make a guess - I'll keep you posted!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * Grant Rainsley wrote: If there was ever a Mantle lot destined for OBC: ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #2 WINNERS Part II in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nin Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:34:13 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Bidders, After tabulating the results (which was not an easy process) of Last Nights game #002 (Tor Vs Sea), the MODULAR-NINE number of the day was once again Will the following bidders: D. Smith, M. Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, and West Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. For those keeping score, so far in all 3 games selected the HOME team was victorious, while the VISITING team has managed to get a couple of hits and score a run in their last at bat - thereby changing the Modular-Nine number at the last moment. How exciting.......indeed! -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #003....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:07:51 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello (once again) bidders, Day three starts a little behind schedule but nonetheless with renewed vigor. Although, it is becoming apparent to your host that I will soon have to quit my day job and focus solely on my MOD-9 auction. But, once again I digress, as per our rules and regulations, Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R. Robinson, K. Summers, D. Smith, M. Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, and West are OUT. A couple more OBCers have joined the festivities and have been assigned a bidder number. Welcome aboard and enjoy the ride. In my endless quest to empty out my dupes box, 10 more lots have been added for your viewing pleasure (see the end of this email). Today we will once again have two "Modular-Nine" numbers of the day. Good luck to all remaining bidders! TODAY's GAME#001 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/9/2001): Cleveland vs Minnesota (game time: 1:05 ET) TODAY's GAME#002 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/9/2001): San Francisco vs Cincinnati (game time: 7:05 ET) If either game is postponed then we use: 1. Houston vs Atlanta or/and 2. L.A. Dodgers vs Pittsburgh or/and 3. Milwaukee vs Mets Here are today's bidders! Although, I must say that "Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, and Malson" certainly have the statistical advantage. Are you feeling lucky today??? 001: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 002: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil 007: Griffen, Redpath, BAMA, Weihe, Lindholme 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot Following Lots were claimed: 002 1956 Schoendienst 025 1958 Aaron A/S 121 1966 Niekro 164 1970 Carlton OPC Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to today's high bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 042 1960 Mathews #420 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 050 1961 Ruth #401 (*****) 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 090 1963 Musial #250 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 139 1967 Rose #430 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards 167 1971 Marichal #325 168 1971 Brock #625 169 1972 Aaron #299 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 175 1960 Musial #250 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 180 1962 Aaron #320 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 197 1966 hi# 562 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1970 "BIG" Brooks Robinson #059 (*****) denotes true Tipton.... ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 3...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine A Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 16:53:23 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Bidders, After tabulating the results of this afternoon's Mod-9 game #001 (Cleveland vs Minnesota), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is....incredibly the number "1" (again)! Will the following bidders: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. Thanks! For those keeping score, the HOME team won again (that is four in a row)! Although, the Indians had the bases loaded in the top of the ninth with two outs, it sure looked like they were going to send the Mod-9 number of the day in a tail-spin (must have had a few OBCers on the edge of their seats). But alas, Omar Visquel is up and he promptly strikes out. On well, so we move on, here is tonight's 2nd game: TODAY's GAME#002 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/9/2001): San Francisco vs Cincinnati (game time: 7:05 ET) If the game is postponed then we use: 1. Houston vs Atlanta or/and 2. L.A. Dodgers vs Pittsburgh or/and 3. Milwaukee vs Mets Here are tonight's bidders! My, my, we sure have a bunch of questions to answer...Will the Mod-9 number "1" rule supreme again? Will "Team's five" luck change, now that the "Olde Friar" is onboard? Is it possible for "Team four" (with bidder number 1 thru 4) to loss this time? How about "Team 8," they had a ringer in the person of Morganti (who always seems to have incredible luck in Las Vegas), but yet, they remain? Stay tuned... 001: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 002: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 003: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil 007: Griffen, Redpath, BAMA, Weihe, Lindholme 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot Following Lots were claimed: 168 1971 Brock 175 1960 Musial Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to today's high bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 042 1960 Mathews #420 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 050 1961 Ruth #401 (*****) 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 090 1963 Musial #250 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 139 1967 Rose #430 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards 167 1971 Marichal #325 169 1972 Aaron #299 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 180 1962 Aaron #320 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 197 1966 hi# 562 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1970 "BIG" Brooks Robinson #059 ================= Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 20:33:06 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Attention: Twin Cities OBCers From: Michael Wierzbicki Hi, All! I will be taking a quick trip this weekend to Minneapolis (Saturday night through Tueasday night). The trip is mostly to visit some friends and family. Is there any card shop near Apple Valley (where we will be staying with friends)? Will there be any card shows this weekend? If I can get away for a couple of hours, it might be fun to meet at a shop or show. Let me know about the Twin Cities action this weekend. Best wishes, Mike Wierzbicki ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:24:45 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Thanks] Many Prewar Thanks To: AMCOOK93@aol.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com, From: Traderdoug@aol.com Thanks to Andy Cook for his end of a swap if 3 34 goudeys for 3 41 Playballs. I love the color in both of those sets. Thanks Andy. I'd also like to announce that I completed a set that I've been working on for 49 years. The 52 Topps was the set I played with as a kid. Stretched out on the floor with 2 teams of cards and a set of dice, I invented more baseball games than any kid alive. These are the first cards that were in my bicycle spokes, that I traded and flipped against the walls. The backs are full of my handwriting... identifying outfields by their real position ...center field, left field, or right field. I'm pleased that the Mantle I finally bought on e-bay to finish the set fits right in ...scuffed, creased, and with a little of the back missing, its obvious some other kid loved that card too. Thanks to all of you who helped complete that one. HURRAY ..Topps regular sets from 1952 through 1958 are now complete. - Doug ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kansas City Bound To: OBC Ramblings From: Terry Dietrick I am going to visit my daughter at her Air Force Base near KC, Mo. I was wondering if there were any OBC members in the area that would want to get together or any shows or shops around, that anyone could recommend. I am going to be in the area from Aug. 19th through Aug. 24th. I will have lots of free time and am looking for things to do. Thanks, Terry Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #3 WINNERS Part II in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Ni Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:17:14 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Greetings Remaining Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game #002 (Giants vs Reds), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is...."5"! Will the following bidders: N. Thomas, DeJong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. Thanks! Last night's game was a nail bitter. As we entered the ninth inning "Team 4" (Rich, Svetecz, Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair) looked like "can't miss" winners. As late as the bottom-half of the ninth inning with 2 outs, bookies across the country had "Team 4" at 30 to 1 odds. But alas, by a minor miracle (must have been the luck of the Irish --- is the Friar Irish?) the Reds somehow managed to scrap enough hits together (with some pretty weak hitters at that...) and in an unprecedented "Modular-9" upset, throw "Team 5" into the winners bracket. For those not sure how to keep score, here is a simpler example (I hope?), using last night's box score: R H E Giants 6 11 0 Reds 4 9 2 To tabulate the Mod-9 number of the day, add all the numbers (from the box score) together. 6+4+11+9+0+2=32 Now, take the total (which was "32" in our example) and add both numbers together (3 + 2 = "5"). Thus, we now have last nights Mod-9 number of the day (which was "5"). -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #004....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:05:17 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello bidders, Day #004 proceeds as planned, with 4 teams out of the original 9 still with us. As per our rules and regulations, Wubben, Hattox, Calvert, Nathan, Mason, Thomas, DeJong, Tipton, Codere, Wells and Olde Friar are GONE. Just, when you thought it couldn't get any better, 7 more lots have been added for your viewing pleasure (see the end of this email). Today we will only have "ONE" "Modular-Nine" game of the day, as we slow things down a little bit, so we may have time to think about was has transpired. Thank you for playing the most exhilarating auction on the internet! TODAY's MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/10/2001): Chicago White Sox vs Seattle (game time: 10:05 ET) If the game is postponed then we use: 1. Yankees vs Oakland or/and 2. Toronto vs Anaheim or/and 3. Boston vs Baltimore Here are tonight's bidders! A couple of more OBCers have joined the Modular-9 madness (smart move, membership is free but for a limited time only). Will you be next to experience the thrill and excitement, that only a Modular-Nine auction can bring? Is it in your destiny? 001: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 002: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 003: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot Following Lots were claimed: 029 1959 Mathews/Aaron #212 042 1960 Mathews #420 050 1961 Ruth #401 (*****) 067 1962 Martin #208 (writing on the front) 090 1963 Musial #250 112 1966 Koufax #100 (******) 139 1967 Rose #430 157 1969 Mays #190 (*****) 169 1972 Aaron #299 180 1962 Aaron #320 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 004 1957 Tipton common's special of 4 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 051 1961 Berra #472 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 197 1966 hi# 562 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1971 "LARGE" Brooks Robinson #059 201 1954 (Bowman) Harvey Kueen RC #023 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 204 1955 Don Mossi RC #085 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #004....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction...Up Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:06:34 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" One last note before we put this Modular-9 stuff to bed for the day. Here is an updated bidder list for tonight's Chicago WS Vs Seattle game. The tension is obviously mounting as we speak, OBCers all accross the country are nervously awaiting tonight's results. I was going to stay away from this prediction stuff, and call it a hunch, but my money is on Team 6 (which of course is also team 5). 001: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 002: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 003: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, Newcomb 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles For those who doubt my credibility, here are a few testimonials from past "Modular-Nine" winners: Dear Iggy, huH? What the heck.....You mean, I won? hUH, thanks... Take care! Ben! As a kid growing up, I was never very good at modular-nine. I still can't believe I was the high bidder. Thanks again! Paul and Lisa McBride In my neighboorhood, if you pulled this Modulor stuff, well... that would be the last game you played!!! Sincerely, Joe from Sprinfield I ran into your Modular-Nine auction by chance. Next thing I know a 65 Musial is in my mailbox, can you explain to me again how it was that I won? Freddie from Riverside (a bit perplexed). Dear Eggy, Most auctions rely on listless determinants as "highest bid", "FCFS", and the ever popular "FCFSUIOU" (first-come-first-served-unless-I-owe-you). The modular nine puts such practices to shame! You sir, are a man of vision! Jose in Tijuana, Mexico -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:02:02 EDT Subject: huge thanks from Tampa To: , , From: bdangelo@aol.com Hi guys, A huge thank-you (61-fold?) ot Brock Hattox for sending a '61 Maris. Wow, that is some card. And then he apologizes because it might be a little rough. Rough? What rough? Looks like a gem to me!! Thanks again Brock!! ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Mod-9 Anyone? Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:52:00 -0400 From: "Rick Redpath" [Hotmail is holding my prior attempt hostage, so I apologize in advance for the second copy of this that you'll probably receive in 4 days...] Iggy will have us all majoring in math pretty soon... In the meantime, here's a hot tip that might give you the edge on the competition. While all across the world, some OBCers are struggling to find a box score and add up every single one of those numbers, you can do this: Look for any 9s, or any combination of numbers that equal 9. Then throw them out! Ignore them! Same thing for 0, although that's pretty obvious. Now just add up whatever's left. This might save you a lot of time and a lot of work and might make the difference between you, the lucky bidder, snagging that 1958 Earl Battey Tipton Edition (Lot 019) rather than getting stuck with the regular 1958 Earl Battey (Lot 018). You'll want to thank me when you get it, but that's quite all right, you needn't. Plus I'll probably be in Maine by then so I'll be out of touch anyway. Now, if you've had your coffee this morning, you might notice that with the right box score this little trick could allow you to throw out ALL the numbers, leaving a Mod-9 of 0. And that doesn't look like a good answer, but don't worry. Iggy was probably too polite to have a Team Zero so he went with 1 through 9. If your answer is 0 then just make it 9 instead. Got it? All right, I gotta go. - Rick ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: put her to bed Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:02:38 From: "Al Cummings" I finished the 1960 Topps set. First time in a while I have finished one and it felt kind of good. Last card is paid for (#350 Mick) and pending a binder check I took it off the partially updated list. I have been working 3 sets hard and it shows. I have to thanks Steve and Dan? (or was it Sean) who told me to quit buying lots of commons and buy something I needed. Really wiped out a lot of the list that way, I am keeping track of where I started on this quest and when it is all done I will report the totals. Big Al in Seattle Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:28:39 EDT Subject: It goes to 11... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: amcook93@aol.com I was interested to see the latest innovation in slabbling technology in the most recent edition of SCD...the 11 grade. When 10 just isn't enough, the new SCD grading service now has the 11 Pristine grade. It reminds me of Spinal Tap when they're looking at the amp and the volume control goes to 11 "for when you need one more!" ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 4...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine A Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:57:50 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Good Morning Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game (Chicago WS vs Seattle), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is...."6"! Will the following bidders: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. Thanks! I'm not the type to flute my own horn, but was I right or was I right, when I predicted that "team 6" was going to win? Perhaps, I should follow my heart and forget all about this auction stuff and start my own Modular-9 psychic hot-line? -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:42:07 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] It goes to 11... From: Gary Pearce At 08:28 PM 8/10/01, amcook93@aol.com wrote; >When 10 just isn't enough, the new SCD grading service now has the 11 >Pristine grade. It reminds me of Spinal Tap when they're looking at the >amp and the volume control goes to 11 "for when you need one more!" "But why not make 10 be the highest and only use that when you need one more?" [short pause] "These go to 11." Gary Pearce -- pearceg at ev1 dot net or http://users2.ev1.net/~pearceg/ "Baseball? I wouldn't walk across the street to watch baseball." Terry Bradshaw "Terry's so dumb he couldn't spell CAT if you spotted him the C and the T." Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #005....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:18:19 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello bidders, Day #005 starts a little early, since our cracker-jack staff has some yard work to do. Only 3 teams are left standing, we will soon find out who is the most lucky amongst the unlucky. As per our rules and regulations, the following bidders are history: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, and Pigeon. Our cracker-jack staff is bare bones on the weekend, so NO new lots were added. Only one game on tap for today. As I've reminded some of our bidders, Round #2 is scheduled to start next week with a mild twist, so don't wander-off. By the way, the next time you are stuck in rush hour, here is a neat Mod-9 game you can play with the kids, wife, girlfriend, etc. Try to see who can calculate the Mod-9 number the quickest, using the license plates of cars. Should be loads of fun and will certainly enhance your Modular-9 skills. Although, please note DO NOT (I repeat-DO NOT) try this with your "mother-in-law' or on a "first-date." Will probably not go over TODAY's MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/11/2001): Dodgers vs Phillies (game time: 4:05 ET) If the game is postponed then we use: 1. Detriot vs Kansas City or/and 2. Cleveland vs Texas or/and 3. Houston vs Florida Here are today's bidders! Just as an FYI, Rick Redpath's analysis on the Mod-9 principle is right on the button!!! The numbers "9" and "0" are to be ignored. Because, as we now all know, the number "9" added to any number is that number. For instance: 9 + 3 = 3 or 9 + 8 = 8, etc, etc. Thank you Rick, for simplifying my modular-nine auction. 001: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 002: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 003: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, Newcomb 006: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, Newcomb 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, Newcomb 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles Following Lots were claimed: 003 1956 Whitey Ford #240 (*****) 014 1958 Martin #271 093 1964 Maris #225 (back damage) 204 1955 Mossi RC #085 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 008 1958 Snider #088 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 051 1961 Berra #472 MVP 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 Whitte #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 074 1962 Killebrew #316 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 102 1965 Gibson #320 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 125 1967 Maris #045 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 197 1966 hi# 562 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1971 "LARGE" Brooks Robinson #059 201 1954 (Bowman) Harvey Kueen RC #023 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:27:06 EDT Subject: Tply's Dupes Available 8/11/01 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com TRIPS DUPES BOX AVAILABLE 8/5/2001 BASEBALL DUPES ***IMAGES AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST*** 1955 BOWMAN 45, 83, 103, 192 1956 TOPPS 1958 TOPPS 1959 TOPPS 1961 FLEER 1962 POST 65 (Harmon Killebrew), 162 1962 TOPPS 1963 TOPPS 23, 311, 316, 432 1965 TOPPS 195, 362 1966 TOPPS 5, 21, 33, 49, 84, 96, 123, 189 1970 TOPPS 4, 6, 13, 19 (2), 23, 24, 31, 35, 37, 38, 41, 43, 44, 48, 53, 54, 57 (2), 60, 79 (2), 80, 85, 91 (2), 92 (2), 93 (2), 97, 103, 108, 111, 113 (2), 124, 126, 127 (2), 130, 131 (2), 132 (2), 266 (3), 268 (3), 271, 274 (2), 277, 278 (4), 297 (2), 303, 316, 322, 324 (2), 329, 334 (3), 347, 349, 354 (2), 361 (2), 366, 367, 374, 391 (2), 392 (3), 393 (2), 395, 452 (3), 454 (3), 456 1971 TOPPS 2, 3 (2), 10, 11, 12, 16, 18, 27, 28, 41, 42 (2), 51, 52 (2), 57, 59 (2), 60, 73 (2), 77, 84, 89, 91, 102, 103, 105, 108 (2), 109, 110 (4), 113 (2), 114, 120, 121, 124 (2), 125, 128, 131, 132, 163, 220, 223, 239, 240 (2), 242, 261, 274, 301 1972 TOPPS 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 12, 13, 15, 17, 18, 19 (2), 22 (2), 24, 27, 30 (2), 31, 35, 36, 39 (3), 40, 41, 43, 45, 48, 53, 54, 55, 56 (2), 57 (2), 58 (3), 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 68, 71, 73 (3), 74, 75, 76, 77, 78 (2), 81, 83, 97, 98 (2), 99 (4), 103, 104, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 115 (2), 116, 118 (3), 119, 121, 122, 124, 126, 129, 136, 146, 149 (2), 150, 199 (3), 204, 207 (4), 211, 212, 214, 231 (2), 238 (5), 242 (7), 246, 295, 311, 333, 354, 359, 366, 374, 394, 404, 544 1973 TOPPS 11, 27, 40 (2), 96, 101, 118 (2), 161, 197, 211, 236, 290 1974 TOPPS 8 (5), 13 (2), 14 (3), 25, 59, 63, 67, 71, 76, 99 (2), 117, 119, 133, 137, 172 (2), 175, 176, 177, 189, 210, 213 (3), 221, 223, 228, 233, 247, 249, 256, 284, 294 (2), 295, 308 (2), 324, 328, 335 (2), 343, 354 (3), 370 (3), 405, 406, 411, 416 (2), 420, 442, 447, 449, 466 (2), 467, 482, 492, 493, 498, 506, 531, 539 (2), 557, 563, 579, 611, 617, 628, 631, 644 1974 TOPPS TRADED 43T, 51T (3), 62T (2), 63T (2), 73T, 139T (2), 151T, 165T, 175T, 186T (6), 270T, 313T, 373T, 428T, 348T, 486T (2), 496T, 579T (2), 616T (2), 649T 1975 TOPPS 11, 31, 37, 53, 54 (2), 68, 78 (2), 92, 102, 107, 147, 162 (2), 214, 266, 271, 316 (3), 317, 323, 326 (2), 327, 329, 330, 332 (3), 347, 353, 366 (2), 401, 424, 451, 464, 467 (2), 468, 486, 490, 495, 536 (2), 626, 632 (2), 633, 1976 TOPPS 22, 26 (2), 27 (2), 29 (2), 30 (2), 33 (3), 37 (2), 51, 52, 57, 110 (4), 112, 113, 116 (2), 122, 136 (2), 148, 153, 155 (3), 156 (2), 162 (3), 164 (3), 171 (5), 172, 181 (2), 182 (3), 183, 186 (2), 212 (6), 214, 220, 221, 224 (4), 225 (2), 231 (3), 232, 238 (3), 245, 247, 250, 256 (7), 258, 263, 269, 271, 272, 273, 281, 282 (3), 283 (3), 287 (3), 289, 290, 296, 297 (3), 298 (4), 301, 302 (5), 303, 306 (2), 309 (2), 311, 312 (5), 315, 320 (2), 321, 322, 327, 328, 332, 333, 334, 338, 352, 356, 364 (2), 383, 385, 390, 397, 398, 401, 403 (2), 404, 406, 409, 410, 413, 422, 424, 428, 439, 446, 447, 478, 479, 484, 491, 492, 497 (2), 503, 509, 514, 516, 521 (2), 524 (2), 536 (2), 544, 555, 571, 572 (4), 576 (4), 577 (2), 584, 601, 602, 607, 608, 615, 627, 629, 630, 634, 645, 648, 651, 652 (2) 1976 TOPPS TRADED 27T (19), 28t, 44T (12), 58T, 85T, 99T, 120T (12), 127T (14), 146T (15), 158T (16), 208T (19), 211T (14), 231T (16), 250T, 259T (10), 292T (11), 296T (15), 309T (17), 338T (11), 383T (14), 385T (14), 401T (17), 410T (14), 411 (17), 428T (10), 434T (15), 464T (18), 497T (15), 524T (17), 527T (14), 528T (16), 532T (15), 554T (10), 579T (14), 583T (15), 618T (14), 632T (17), 649T (17) CHECKLIST NO NUMBER (11) 1977 TOPPS 91, 97 (3), 195 (2), 200, 275, 291, 342, 401, 408 (2), 454, 511, 544, 569 1978 TOPPS 16, 24, 25, 29 (6), 32, 37, 38 (2), 43 (2), 47 (2), 51 (3), 53 (3), 56, 61, 64 (2), 67 (5), 68 (5), 77 (3), 78 (4), 79, 85 (3), 93 (6), 102 (2), 106, 109, 132, 135 (3), 147, 154 (3), 157 (3), 170, 177 (2), 186 (2), 187 (6), 190, 191, 194 (2), 197, 202 (2), 204 (3), 207 (3), 211 (4), 212, 216 (2), 217 (2), 219 (2), 221 (2), 224 (3), 225 (3), 228, 236, 242 (4), 246 (3), 247, 248 (5), 249 (2), 252 (2), 260 (2), 261 (3), 263, 265 (6), 266 (2), 268 (2), 269, 271 (2), 272, 273 (3), 276 (3), 281 (2), 284, 285 (4), 286, 290 (3), 296 (2), 297 (3), 298, 299, 306 (4), 307, 308 (2), 311 (5), 316, 322 (2), 323 (2), 326 (7), 327 (6), 330, 342 (2), 343 (5), 349 (4), 353, 354 (4), 364, 365, 366 (3), 372, 377 (2), 378, 384 (2), 388 (4), 389, 394, 396 (2), 401 (2), 403, 406 (4), 414 (3), 417, 425 (3), 428, 430, 436 (7), 437 (3), 438, 441 (2), 443, 445, 449 (4), 458 (2), 459, 461(4), 462, 472 (4), 475, 477 (2), 483, 486, 487 (5), 488, 496 (4), 497, 502 (2), 504, 507, 509, 511 (2), 518, 527 (2), 538 (3), 539, 541, 543 (2), 544 (2), 548 (5), 552, 554 (3), 555, 556, 557 (2), 559, 561 (6), 562, 576 (2), 578, 579, 581, 585 (2), 587 (2), 592, 604 (2), 611, 615, 617 (2), 619 (2), 621, 622 (2), 623, 624 (2), 625 (2), 626, 627, 632 (2), 633 (2), 634, 636, 638, 641 (3), 646 (5), 647, 650, 657 (2), 658 (3), 662 (3), 669, 679, 686, 692, 693, 699, 702, 703 (7), 711, 712, 724, 726 1979 TOPPS 1 (4), 4 (2), 20, 23, 29, 39 (2), 51 (2), 54 (9), 59, 63 (2), 67 (2), 68, 77, 78, 85, 97, 104 (2), 130 (2), 137, 154 (5), 179, 218, 241, 243 (2), 247 (6), 279, 303 (6), 327 (4),356, 405, 406, 408 (3), 418 (9), 429 (2), 455 (2), 461 (3), 468 (3), 470 (2), 528 (4), 531, 533, 564 (3), 580, 605 (16), 634, 642 (3), 645 (3), 653 (6), 656, 670 (2), 671 (3), 676, 683 (6), 684 (2), 686 (4), 691 (7), 710 (3) 1980 TOPPS 12 (36), 15 (7), 16 (2), 32 (2), 33, 34 (37), 35 (3), 36 (4), 47, 51 (6), 68, 72 (5), 76, 84 (2), 87 (2), 93 (3), 102 (5), 108, 114 (4), 138, 142, 145 (3), 158 (50), 174 (4), 179 (3), 183 (12), 184 (2), 211 (7), 246 (2), 255 (8), 263 (2), 264 (4), 271, 284 (41), 286, 314, 317 (4), 325 (3), 327 (5), 355 (2), 373 (5), 377, 379 (3), 387 (5), 390 (2), 394, 397, 399 (5), 412 (2), 418 (4), 425, 430 (9), 456, 459 (3), 462 (34), 469, 471 (2), 473, 480, 486 (3), 489 (5), 491 (3), 494, 502 (8), 504 (4), 513, 527 (13), 530 (3), 538, 541 (3), 549 (4), 558 (4), 566 (4), 572 (10), 575, 585 (2), 586 (2), 589, 597, 602, 603 (5), 606, 611, 614 (2), 618 (3), 621, 622, 623 (3), 624, 627, 628, 632, 634, 641, 642 (3), 649, 654 (2), 657, 665 (2), 666 (3), 670, 675 (3), 678 (3), 680, 687 (5), 692 (2), 695 (2), 711, 714 (2), 717 (44), 718 FOOTBALL DUPES: 1972 TOPPS 1, 2, 3, 5 (2), 9, 16, 23, 24, 25, 26, 32, 33, 44, 45, 47, 48, 50, 53, 54, 59, 64, 75, 76, 82, 87, 92, 94, 115, 118, 130, 149, 178, 223 1973 TOPPS 1976 TOPPS 21 (2), 32, 36, 37, 43 (2), 57, 79, 81, 112, 163, 165 (3), 189 (2), 263 (2), 276, 279, 280, 292 (2), 293 (2), 367 1977 TOPPS 25, 141, 157, 174, 200, 239, 246, 270, 275, 315, 336, 345, 412, 468, 525 1978 TOPPS 102, 122, 210, 251, 323, 347, 498 1979 TOPPS 68, 235, 490, 503, 505, 511, 512, 516, 526 ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 14:49:34 EDT Subject: Exciting stuff going on in the Bay Area! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com All - As I type this the A's have won 10 games in a row and leading the wildcard race in the AL. The Giants are also playing well and fighting for another division title this year!!!! I will be at the A's Vs Yankees game tonight right behind home plate and I can't wait! Meanwhile rumors are running crazy about the A's moving again! Last week the A's contacted the Oakland City Counsel and advised them they were going forward to the commissioners office with a proposal from a group in Las Vegas to buy the team. The A's asked the city not to go public with the news until after the commissioner's office was contacted. One member of the city counsel ignored the request and his going to the press (rumor has it) killed the deal and the group from Las Vegas backed out of the deal for now. This week the city went public with potential sites to build a new baseball stadium for the A's in Oakland. However, many of the city counsel members made it clear the ownership would have to fund the new stadium. I hope this comes to pass as I have been a partial season ticket holder for going on ten years and do not want to see the team leave. However, the current owners may not spend the money necessary to keep the team in Oakland and to keep the team competitive. I fear that Giambi may be wearing the dreaded pinstripes next year! Meanwhile, I am just going to enjoy the great baseball the A's and Giants have been playing and enjoy the season! Can anyone name a better pitching staff than the A's? I think Hudson, Zito and Mulder may be the best one-two-three punch in baseball today! And all three are young players that has the potential to be super star pitchers for years to come. As for Giambi, he has proven that last year was no fluke and he is the franchise player many of us thought he was! I love this time of year and especially since my home teams are doing so well! Lets get the ramblings going as I would love to hear what others have to say about my home teams or rumors about other teams around the country! Another Baseball Quote: "It's tomorrow that counts. So you worry all the time. It never ends. Lord, baseball is a worrying thing." --------Stanley Coveleski Indians Pitcher (1916-24) Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:12:02 EDT Subject: HOF trip To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com Just got back from my trip to Boston and Cooperstown. Fenway tour was cool...Boston won the game we saw scoring 11 runs beating the Rangers and Arrived in Cooperstown an hour before the induction. Wormed my way up close for the Kirby speech. Winfield spoke way too long. Maz cried. It was great. Even Hilton Smith's family was impressive. After the induction I decided to walk back to Cooperstown (about 1 1/2 mile) and hang out for an hour. Loved Cooperstown...a little city. Bought my cachet and a couple of induction cards and postcards. Did not see a single baseball card I needed though. Went up to Utica to sleep. The next day was a special day at Cooperstown. Managed to get into the special Friends of the Hall luncheon with the inductees and Joe Morgan hosting...in fact several people at my table talked about how much they disliked Joe Morgan but loved Orel Hershiser on Fox instead. I agree wholeheartedly. It was also nice to see Joe turn down kids who wanted an autograph after the session. He is such an ass. After the lunch, I walked down the street to where there were 10 HOFers signing. The autos were expensive but you could take a picture for a dollar. I spent four dollars getting my pics with Yogi, Whitey, Ralph Kiner, and Rollie Fingers. I did also talk to Maz and Kiner about Frank Thomas. It was fun. I did shake hands with Bob Feller again who I had met a few times before. Still a strong handshake. Walked up the street and flashed my Major Leauge Alumni Association card and was let in the the Hall free of charge. Spent the afternoon bugging docents and asking a lot of questions...especially about a watch supposedly owned by Kid Nichols. It had a signature on the face of Chas W. Bennett. I asked the docent about the signature and if it was from the same Charles Bennett who played with Nichols on the Boston team...they had no idea. I asked if they could find out. Next thing I know, there is another docent and a librarian. They look it up in the catalog and sure enough the watch was a gift to Nichols from Bennett...they looked at me in shock. The only reason I know that is that Bennett was one of the original Phillies (on the Worcester Brown Stockings). Was fun to see the look on their faces. I loved the Hall of Fame and the gallery and items were very cool. Left the Hall in time to buy a ticket to the HOF game at Doubleday field from a guy I met the day before at the induction. Watched the game and the players. It was great. Last day in Cooperstown was spent buying gifts and stuff for friends back home and looking at the school there (which did have an opening for a 3rd grade teacher!). I recommend to any and all OBCers that they attend an induciton weekend. It was fantastic. ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:20:17 EDT Subject: A Trip down memory lane..... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com All - Last week I shared some memories of OBC the earlier days with you. Today I thought I would share some more from the days when I hosted a on-line chat session and was lucky enough to befriend Dana DeMuth a National League Umpire. He was gracious enough to show up in my chat session and answer questions. The following is a recap of one of those sessions. The attached is the complete chat session as it was to big to cut and paste: TRIPLEPLAY: **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** TomR35: TAKE IT AWAY, TRIPLE MARKHORNET: its a shame my son is named Matt and thisguy ruins it for him OnlineHost: Corpuscle2 has left the room. TomR35: NITE ALL OnlineHost: TomR35 has left the room. SWright692: Wassup TRIPLEPLAY???? MARKHORNET: night all OnlineHost: CubsIn95 has left the room. OnlineHost: MARKHORNET has left the room. MattEmery: cubs will bite the big one andfinish last TRIPLEPLAY: I have sad news to report, SPANKY1417passed away last night IslesRZ: thanks tom and rosen SWright692: What is the topic tonight TRIP? OnlineHost: RRosen9941 has left the room. MattEmery: cubs suck TRIPLEPLAY: Spanky was a regular attendee in this chatsession OnlineHost: IslesRZ has left the room. OnlineHost: Matt Emery has left the room. OnlineHost: DeathFog has left the room. TRIPLEPLAY: He was a Rangers fan (Hockey), Yankees(Baseball) and just OnlineHost: Matt Emery has entered the room. OnlineHost: Matt Emery has left the room. TRIPLEPLAY: Matt **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATEDTO SPANKY1417** TRIPLEPLAY: SWright692 **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK,DEDICATED TO SPANKY1417** SWright692: What are we going to talk about tonightTRIPLEPLAY? TRIPLEPLAY: Any sport any subject! SWright692: How about the NBA Draft? TRIPLEPLAY: Eckersley saved 300 on May 24, 1995, alock for the hall TRIPLEPLAY: Yea, what about the draft? SWright692: Yea, probably SWright692: Who do you think the MN T-Wolves willdraft? SWright692: O'Bannon, Stoudamire? TRIPLEPLAY: Good question, who is available? TRIPLEPLAY: O'Bannon will go first over Stoudamire OnlineHost: GrayWolf40 has entered the room. SWright692: I think O'Bannon just may be the bestplayer in this draft, wecould get him at #5! TRIPLEPLAY: GrayWolf **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK,DEDICATED TO SPANKY1417** GrayWolf40: Hey, what's up? SWright692: NBA Draft GrayWolf40: Ahh SWright692: Who's your NBA team? TRIPLEPLAY: Wolf, I am sad to report Spanky1417 passedaway last night TRIPLEPLAY: Hear Attack OnlineHost: AlCattle has entered the room. GrayWolf40: Sorry to hear that TRIPLEPLAY: Al **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** SWright692: How old was he? AlCattle: morning all TRIPLEPLAY: Speeling is not good here SWright692: Morning AlCattle: how's the dwg doind? GrayWolf40: Hey C-Attle TRIPLEPLAY: So, what do you think about Eck saving 300games and winning TRIPLEPLAY: Al Daawg and I had a rough day GrayWolf40: Guy was a monster in the late 80s SWright692: Hall of Fame TRIPLEPLAY: Tha Hall GrayWolf40: Yup SWright692: The Hall for Eck AlCattle: just glad he is not as tough on the m'sany more TRIPLEPLAY: Al I heard Griffery Jr. was injured, howbad? GrayWolf40: 3 months GrayWolf40: wrist AlCattle: almost as bad as it gets GrayWolf40: Could be the end of the franchise inSeattle AlCattle: broke 3 places TRIPLEPLAY: That ends the run for the M's! SWright692: Too Bad! SWright692: This was Griffey's year OnlineHost: SOdell7241 has entered the room. AlCattle: might be tough to come back from, but heis young GrayWolf40: Johnson can only win every fifth day OnlineHost: Mets137781 has entered the room. OnlineHost: SOdell7241 has left the room. SWright692: Johnson needs to come to the Twins. AlCattle: hey! none of that GrayWolf40: You a Twinkie fan? Kirby's my favorite OnlineHost: NHLPlayoff has entered the room. Mets137781: Mets snap losing streak, finally AlCattle: I have always liked Puckett OnlineHost: Psmith2405 has entered the room. SWright692: I like Knoblauch, but who can't love Kirby? OnlineHost: NHLPlayoff has left the room. GrayWolf40: Named my cat Puckett in his honor TRIPLEPLAY: The following people have a chance at 1hour of free on-line if theyare here at 10 min Mets137781: Kirkby is great SWright692: Kirby Puckett = Hall of Fame GrayWolf40: You think so? Mets137781: easy hof AlCattle: you mean I don't get it? OnlineHost: RANMD has entered the room. SWright692: I KNOW SO!!!! TRIPLEPLAY: utes to the hour: AlCattle, Mets137781,Graywolf40, OnlineHost: DANA NL 32 has entered the room. GrayWolf40: That would make me happy :) TRIPLEPLAY: Dana welcome! OnlineHost: Chahta has entered the room. TRIPLEPLAY: **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** AlCattle: Dana...Day game? OnlineHost: RANMD has left the room. SWright692: If we are here 10 more min., we get free time? AlCattle: Mark! DANA NL32: hay triple, hello everyone GrayWolf40: Hey Chahta: Hey there Al Cattle...Moooooo! OnlineHost: Tf12 has entered the room. TRIPLEPLAY: Dana did you get my message? DANA NL32: triple ...got your mail TRIPLEPLAY: TF **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** Tf12: Hello all. Mets137781: Bautista got ejected after hitting Stinett AlCattle: is that an Indian word, mark? Chahta: LOL DANA NL32: sorry about Sf changed hotels Tf12: When is the next triva contest here. I thoughtthere was one tonite OnlineHost: The RC has entered the room. DANA NL32: wharf was sold out Chahta: Tf12, you're an hour late... OnlineHost: The RC has left the room. AlCattle: do you book yourself? DANA NL32: hi chahta Tf12: NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO OnlineHost: Psmith2405 has left the room. Chahta: Halito DANA!! OnlineHost: Tf12 has left the room. SWright692: Yeeeeeeessssss TRIPLEPLAY: Chahta **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATEDTO SPANKY1417** DANA NL32: halito OnlineHost: JBartone has entered the room. OnlineHost: SVOLgtning has entered the room. GrayWolf40: Hi Dana. Haven't chatted with you before, but it's a pleasure to AlCattle: how about those Pacers! TRIPLEPLAY: Chahta please stick around and help me outtonight OnlineHost: JBartone has left the room. Chahta: <---just got in from PowWow.....dragging my tail.... DANA NL32: thank you........like wise Chahta: Sure thing Trips.... SWright692: I think the Carolina Panthers will makethe playoffs in 1995. Had thebest draft. Mets137781: Who is Spanky1417? Chahta: Spanky was a regular on here... OnlineHost: JUNHATA has entered the room. SVOLgtning: thats a little bit of a reach, SWRIGHT Mets137781: ahhhhh DANA NL32: I'm on a week vacation, back towork on tuesday in pitt. GrayWolf40: I'm curious...off the record, how much areyour balls/strikes JUNHATA: SO LIKE HELLO AND STUFF HUH GrayWolf40: by the player at the plate? GrayWolf40: Like Tony Gwynn versus a rookie? AlCattle: wolf, he can't answer that OnlineHost: Mets137781 has left the room. JUNHATA: WHAT ARER YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT? SWright692: They are going to suprise a lot ofteams. 2 solid QB's. Good Defense. You heard it here 1st SVOL. GrayWolf40: Sorry AlCattle: sport6s, any topic DANA NL32: some players know my strike zonebetter than others GrayWolf40: ;) SVOLgtning: gotta have an OL-you heard it here first JUNHATA: DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW DO YOU JOIN USBL? DANA NL32: those that have been around letthe others know Chahta: Hey Dana, do you ever unp a Braves gamethis year? GrayWolf40: Gotcha DANA NL32: had them in NY AlCattle: good answer Dana JUNHATA: KHTGKSHTGHOHOTIHGUYGTUGYEUOGHEOHUTGDUHGEOUHODUHETUOHSODIUGSEOUH JUNHATA: POTJHOPEITJZ[THOIGOSHTT[0JOTRSHPTIEIHJG OnlineHost: JUNHATA has left the room. SWright692: They got 1 of the best O-Lineman in thedraft in Blake Brockermeyer. Got Center Frank Garcia too! GrayWolf40: Easy, Boss OnlineHost: BOBBYKD has entered the room. TRIPLEPLAY: **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** TomR35: TAKE IT AWAY, TRIPLE MARKHORNET: its a shame my son is named Matt and thisguy ruins it for him OnlineHost: Corpuscle2 has left the room. TomR35: NITE ALL OnlineHost: TomR35 has left the room. SWright692: Wassup TRIPLEPLAY???? MARKHORNET: night all OnlineHost: CubsIn95 has left the room. OnlineHost: MARKHORNET has left the room. MattEmery: cubs will bite the big one andfinish last TRIPLEPLAY: I have sad news to report, SPANKY1417passed away last night IslesRZ: thanks tom and rosen SWright692: What is the topic tonight TRIP? OnlineHost: RRosen9941 has left the room. MattEmery: cubs suck TRIPLEPLAY: Spanky was a regular attendee in this chatsession OnlineHost: IslesRZ has left the room. OnlineHost: Matt Emery has left the room. OnlineHost: DeathFog has left the room. TRIPLEPLAY: He was a Rangers fan (Hockey), Yankees(Baseball) and just OnlineHost: Matt Emery has entered the room. OnlineHost: Matt Emery has left the room. TRIPLEPLAY: Matt **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATEDTO SPANKY1417** TRIPLEPLAY: SWright692 **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK,DEDICATED TO SPANKY1417** SWright692: What are we going to talk about tonightTRIPLEPLAY? TRIPLEPLAY: Any sport any subject! SWright692: How about the NBA Draft? TRIPLEPLAY: Eckersley saved 300 on May 24, 1995, alock for the hall TRIPLEPLAY: Yea, what about the draft? SWright692: Yea, probably SWright692: Who do you think the MN T-Wolves willdraft? SWright692: O'Bannon, Stoudamire? TRIPLEPLAY: Good question, who is available? TRIPLEPLAY: O'Bannon will go first over Stoudamire OnlineHost: GrayWolf40 has entered the room. SWright692: I think O'Bannon just may be the bestplayer in this draft, wecould get him at #5! TRIPLEPLAY: GrayWolf **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK,DEDICATED TO SPANKY1417** GrayWolf40: Hey, what's up? SWright692: NBA Draft GrayWolf40: Ahh SWright692: Who's your NBA team? TRIPLEPLAY: Wolf, I am sad to report Spanky1417 passedaway last night TRIPLEPLAY: Hear Attack OnlineHost: AlCattle has entered the room. GrayWolf40: Sorry to hear that TRIPLEPLAY: Al **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** SWright692: How old was he? AlCattle: morning all TRIPLEPLAY: Speeling is not good here SWright692: Morning AlCattle: how's the dwg doind? GrayWolf40: Hey C-Attle TRIPLEPLAY: So, what do you think about Eck saving 300games and winning TRIPLEPLAY: Al Daawg and I had a rough day GrayWolf40: Guy was a monster in the late 80s SWright692: Hall of Fame TRIPLEPLAY: Tha Hall GrayWolf40: Yup SWright692: The Hall for Eck AlCattle: just glad he is not as tough on the m'sany more TRIPLEPLAY: Al I heard Griffery Jr. was injured, howbad? GrayWolf40: 3 months GrayWolf40: wrist AlCattle: almost as bad as it gets GrayWolf40: Could be the end of the franchise inSeattle AlCattle: broke 3 places TRIPLEPLAY: That ends the run for the M's! SWright692: Too Bad! SWright692: This was Griffey's year OnlineHost: SOdell7241 has entered the room. AlCattle: might be tough to come back from, but heis young GrayWolf40: Johnson can only win every fifth day OnlineHost: Mets137781 has entered the room. OnlineHost: SOdell7241 has left the room. SWright692: Johnson needs to come to the Twins. AlCattle: hey! none of that GrayWolf40: You a Twinkie fan? Kirby's my favorite OnlineHost: NHLPlayoff has entered the room. Mets137781: Mets snap losing streak, finally AlCattle: I have always liked Puckett OnlineHost: Psmith2405 has entered the room. SWright692: I like Knoblauch, but who can't love Kirby? OnlineHost: NHLPlayoff has left the room. GrayWolf40: Named my cat Puckett in his honor TRIPLEPLAY: The following people have a chance at 1hour of free on-line if theyare here at 10 min Mets137781: Kirkby is great SWright692: Kirby Puckett = Hall of Fame GrayWolf40: You think so? Mets137781: easy hof AlCattle: you mean I don't get it? OnlineHost: RANMD has entered the room. SWright692: I KNOW SO!!!! TRIPLEPLAY: utes to the hour: AlCattle, Mets137781,Graywolf40, OnlineHost: DANA NL 32 has entered the room. GrayWolf40: That would make me happy :) TRIPLEPLAY: Dana welcome! OnlineHost: Chahta has entered the room. TRIPLEPLAY: **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** AlCattle: Dana...Day game? OnlineHost: RANMD has left the room. SWright692: If we are here 10 more min., we get free time? AlCattle: Mark! DANA NL32: hay triple, hello everyone GrayWolf40: Hey Chahta: Hey there Al Cattle...Moooooo! OnlineHost: Tf12 has entered the room. TRIPLEPLAY: Dana did you get my message? DANA NL32: triple ...got your mail TRIPLEPLAY: TF **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATED TOSPANKY1417** Tf12: Hello all. Mets137781: Bautista got ejected after hitting Stinett AlCattle: is that an Indian word, mark? Chahta: LOL DANA NL32: sorry about Sf changed hotels Tf12: When is the next triva contest here. I thoughtthere was one tonite OnlineHost: The RC has entered the room. DANA NL32: wharf was sold out Chahta: Tf12, you're an hour late... OnlineHost: The RC has left the room. AlCattle: do you book yourself? DANA NL32: hi chahta Tf12: NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO OnlineHost: Psmith2405 has left the room. Chahta: Halito DANA!! OnlineHost: Tf12 has left the room. SWright692: Yeeeeeeessssss TRIPLEPLAY: Chahta **WELCOME TO SPORTS TALK, DEDICATEDTO SPANKY1417** DANA NL32: halito OnlineHost: JBartone has entered the room. OnlineHost: SVOLgtning has entered the room. GrayWolf40: Hi Dana. Haven't chatted with you before, but it's a pleasure to AlCattle: how about those Pacers! TRIPLEPLAY: Chahta please stick around and help me outtonight OnlineHost: JBartone has left the room. Chahta: <---just got in from PowWow.....dragging my tail.... DANA NL32: thank you........like wise Chahta: Sure thing Trips.... SWright692: I think the Carolina Panthers will makethe playoffs in 1995. Had thebest draft. Mets137781: Who is Spanky1417? Chahta: Spanky was a regular on here... OnlineHost: JUNHATA has entered the room. SVOLgtning: thats a little bit of a reach, SWRIGHT Mets137781: ahhhhh DANA NL32: I'm on a week vacation, back towork on tuesday in pitt. GrayWolf40: I'm curious...off the record, how much areyour balls/strikes JUNHATA: SO LIKE HELLO AND STUFF HUH GrayWolf40: by the player at the plate? GrayWolf40: Like Tony Gwynn versus a rookie? AlCattle: wolf, he can't answer that OnlineHost: Mets137781 has left the room. JUNHATA: WHAT ARER YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT? SWright692: They are going to suprise a lot ofteams. 2 solid QB's. Good Defense. You heard it here 1st SVOL. GrayWolf40: Sorry AlCattle: sport6s, any topic DANA NL32: some players know my strike zonebetter than others GrayWolf40: ;) SVOLgtning: gotta have an OL-you heard it here first JUNHATA: DO YOU GUYS KNOW HOW DO YOU JOIN USBL? DANA NL32: those that have been around letthe others know Chahta: Hey Dana, do you ever unp a Braves gamethis year? GrayWolf40: Gotcha DANA NL32: had them in NY AlCattle: good answer Dana JUNHATA: KHTGKSHTGHOHOTIHGUYGTUGYEUOGHEOHUTGDUHGEOUHODUHETUOHSODIUGSEOUH JUNHATA: POTJHOPEITJZ[THOIGOSHTT[0JOTRSHPTIEIHJG OnlineHost: JUNHATA has left the room. SWright692: They got 1 of the best O-Lineman in thedraft in Blake Brockermeyer. Got Center Frank Garcia too! GrayWolf40: Easy, Boss OnlineHost: BOBBYKD has entered the room. TRIPLEPLAY: Dana ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:12:00 EDT Subject: test To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: ballpark postcards Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:50:36 From: "jeff sinclair" hey guys, friends of mine took a trip to chicago in the spring and i asked that they get me a photo of wrigley. my friend barb, knowing my love of baseball took that a step farther by picking up three postcards (horizontals), framed them in a nice looking collage setting, and presented them to me ready to hang on the wall. this "art" now dons the wall in my baseball shrine (really a crammed little office with a computer desk etc..) next to one i made of my own featuring pnc park here in the burgh. when coop sent out his offering to gather camden yard/oriole stuff to our group it hit me that those of you in the baseball cities could help me put together similar artwork. coop by the way promises to do his best. what i need for these are 3 different horizontal postcards featuring the ballpark. they really do look great when put together. any help in this quest will be greatly appreciated. thanks guys do you remember the feel of the candy store steps? Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:26:08 EDT Subject: KWG0 WL 8/10/01 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Wantlist@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Kent Goto 08/10/01 10 Elizabeth Dr. Belleville, Il. 62226-5047 (AOL Screen Name:KWG0) I am upgrading the following sets with EX or better condition: 1966 Topps - (21 remaining of 598)230 524 525 526 527 529=AE 535 540 543 544 545 547 553 559 563 569 576=AE 581 583 591=AE 598 1965 Topps - (52 remaining of 598)130=AE 134 159=AE 208 238=AE 245=AE 261=AE 277=AE 290=AE 300 309 315 316=AE 330=AE 338=AE 343=AE 350 354 355=AE 363=AE364=AE 380 385 386 389 410 426=AE 430=AE 435 440=AE 449 456 457=AE 459=AE 468=AE 469=AE 471 475 477 478 481 489 505=AE 510 513 517=AE 519 524=AE 576=AE 581=AE 1964 Topps - (1 remaining of 587)125=AE 1962 Topps - (120 remaining of 598)1 5 12=AE 18 22 25 37=AE 45 53=AE 97=AE 100 117=AE 138 140 141 143 174=AE 199 200 234 251 270=AE 288 300 310 313 317 318 320 327=AE 334=AE 336=AE 345=AE 350 360 371=AE 387 392 395 396 399=AE 401 405 430 436 456 458=AE 464=AE 465 466=AE 467=AE 468=AE 471 474 475 476 477=AE 486=AE 490 494 495=AE 498=AE 500 505 514=AE 523 526 527=AE 529 530 531 532 533 534 536 542 544 545 550=AE 552 554 555 556 557 558 559 560=AE 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 570 572 573=AE 574 575 576 578 581=AE 584 585 586 587 589=AE 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 1961 Topps - (105 remaining of 589)2=AE 10 19=AE 30=AE 44 67 141=AE 150 160207 211 286=AE 287 300 307 309=AE 344 361=AE 371 376=AE 388 389 401 402 405 406408 409 415 425 428 430 459 461 467=AE 471 478 480 482 484 485 510=AE 512 513 516=AE 519=AE 524 525 526=AE 527=AE 528=AE 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536=AE 537 538 542 543 545 546 547 549=AE 550=AE 551=AE 552 553 554 556 557 558 559 560=AE561=AE 562 563 564 565 567=AE 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 583 584 585 586 1956 Topps - (xxx remaining of 340)1=AE 2=AE 3=AE 5 7=AE 8 9=AE 10 11 13 14=AE 15 16=AE 17=AE 19=AE 22=AE 23=AE 24=AE 25 26 30 32=AE 33 34=AE 35 38=AE 39=AE 42 43 44=AE 46=AE 47=AE 49=AE 54=AE 55=AE 57 58=AE 61 62=AE 63 64=AE 65=AE 66=AE 68=AE 70=AE 73=AE 75=AE 78=AE 79 81=AE 82 85 86=AE 88 89=AE 90 91=AE 93=AE 94=AE 95 97=AE 99 100 101=AE 102=AE 104=AE 105=AE 106 107 108=AE 109 110 111=AE 112=AE 113 115=AE 118=AE 120 121 123=AE 124=AE 125 126=AE 127 128 130 135 141=AE 143=AE 144=AE 145 146 148=AE 149=AE 150 152=AE 153 154 156 158=AE 159 161=AE 164 166=AE 171=AE 172 173 174=AE 176=AE 177 178 179=AE 180 181 184 187 188 191 194 195197 199 200 204=AE 205 206 207=AE 208 212 214 215 216=AE 217 218 220=AE 221 222224 226 228 229 231 233 234 235 239=AE 240 242 243=AE 245 246 247 248 251 252 253 254 255=AE 258 259 266 267 268 270 272=AE 273 274 275 276 278 279 280 283=AE 284 287=AE 288 290 292 293 294 295 296=AE 299 300 303=AE 306 309 311 313 314=AE 317=AE 319 321 324=AE 325 326=AE 330 331 332 334 337=AE 338=AE NNO Cl 2/4 1955 Topps - (148 remaining of 210)1=AE 2 4 5=AE 6=AE 7=AE 11=AE 13=AE 14=AE 15=AE 16=AE 19=AE 20=AE 21=AE 22=AE 23=AE 24=AE 25=AE 26=AE 29=AE 31 32=AE 33=AE 34=AE 37=AE 38=AE 41=AE 42=AE 43=AE 44=AE 46=AE 47 50 53=AE 56=AE 59=AE 61=AE 63=AE 64=AE 65 66=AE 68=AE 71 72=AE 73=AE 75=AE 78=AE 80=AE 81=AE 83=AE 86=AE 88=AE 89=AE 90=AE 92 93=AE 94=AE 95=AE 96=AE 100=AE 101=AE 102=AE 103=AE 104 105=AE 107 109=AE 110=AE 111=AE 112=AE 114=AE 115=AE 116=AE 117=AE 119=AE 120=AE 121=AE 122=AE 124 125 127=AE 128=AE 129=AE 130=AE 131=AE 132=AE 133 134=AE 135=AE 136=AE 139=AE 140=AE 141=AE 142=AE 143=AE 144=AE 145=AE 146=AE 147=AE 150 151 152 155 156=AE 157=AE 158 159=AE 160=AE 161 162=AE 163 164 166 167 168 169 170=AE 171 172=AE 173 174 176=AE 178 177=AE 178 179 180 181 183 185 187188 190 191=AE 192 193 194 195=AE 197 198 199=AE 200 201=AE 202 204 205=AE 206=AE 1955 Bowmans - (53 remaining of 320)10=AE 66=AE 68=AE 110=AE 114=AE 120 134=AE 158=AE 179=AE 192=AE 197=AE 202=AE 210=AE 211=AE 226=AE 228=AE 231 232=AE 237=AE 239=AE 240=AE 241=AE 243=AE 244=AE 246=AE 247=AE 249=AE 253=AE 254=AE 255=AE 259=AE 260=AE 265=AE 266=AE 267=AE 269=AE 270=AE 271=AE 274=AE 275=AE 276=AE 278=AE 279=AE 283=AE 286=AE 297=AE 300=AE 305=AE 308=AE 310=AE 314=AE 318=AE 320=AE Newer sets any condition exceptable: 1958 Topps - (xxx remaining of 494)1 3=AE 4=AE 5 6 7 8=AE 9 10 11 13 15 16=AE 18 19=AE 20=AE 21 22 23 25=AE 26=AE 27 28=AE 29 30 31=AE 32 34 35 36 37 38 39=AE 41 42 43 44 46 47 49=AE 50 51 52 53=AE 54 55=AE 56=AE 57=AE 59=AE 60=AE 61 63 64=AE 66 67 68=AE 70 71 72 73=AE 74 75=AE 76 77 78 81=AE 82=AE 83 84 86 87 88=AE 89 90=AE 91 92 93 94=AE 95 96 97=AE 98=AE 101 102 103 104=AE 105 106=AE 107=AE 108=AE 109=AE 110=AE111 112 113 114 116 117 118 119 120=AE 121 123 124 125 126 127 128 129=AE 130=AE 131 132 133 134=AE135 136 139 140 142=AE 143=AE 144=AE 145 146 147 148 150 152 153 154=AE 155 157 158=AE 159=AE 160=AE 161 164 165=AE 166 167 169 170 171=AE 172 173 174=AE 176 179=AE 180 181=AE 182 183 185 186 187 189 190 191 192 193=AE 194 195 196 197=AE 198=AE 200 201 203 204=AE 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212=AE 213 216=AE 218 220 221 222 223=AE 224 226 227 228 229 231=AE 232 233 235 237 238=AE 240=AE 242=AE 243 244 246 247 248=AE 249=AE 250 251 252=AE 253 254 255=AE 256=AE 257 258 259 260 261=AE 263=AE 264 265 266 267 268 269=AE 270 272 273=AE 275=AE 277 278=AE 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287=AE 288=AE 289 290=AE 291=AE 292 293 294 295 296 297299 300 301=AE 303=AE 304=AE 305 306=AE 307 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 319=AE 320 322=AE 325 326=AE 327 330 331=AE 333 334 335 336=AE 337=AE 338=AE 341 342 343 348 349 350 351=AE 352=AE 354 355=AE 359=AE 360 362 363 364 366=AE 367=AE 368 370 371=AE 372=AE 375 378=AE 380 381=AE 385=AE 388=AE 390 391=AE 394 397 402=AE 403=AE407 409 411 412=AE 413=AE 416=AE 417=AE 418 419=AE 420 421=AE 424=AE 426=AE 427 428=AE 429 430431=AE 432=AE 433=AE 434 436 437=AE 439 440 443 445=AE 446 448=AE 453 455 462 464 465=AE 466=AE 467 471=AE 472 473 474=AE 475=AE 477 481 482 483=AE 484=AE 485 486 488 489=AE 490=AE 492 493 1957 Topps - 1-86 88-98 100-102 103-106 108-115 117-151 153-158 160-166 168-170 172-193 195-228 230-235 237 239-248 250-254 256-260 262-265 267-354 356-363 365-377 380-383 385 386-393 396-398 400-404 406 407 All Unmarked Checklists 1960T - 332=AE 513 1957T - All four unnumbered (1 2 3 4) 1956T - Both unnumbered=AE The following are team sets (Dodgers and Cardinals) I'm trying to finish in EX or better condition. 1957T Dodgers - 210 284 302 1956T Dodgers - 30 79 1955T Dodgers - 19=AE 50 180 187 195 210 1954T Dodgers - 32=AE 209=AE 251 258 260 261 262 263 266 267 268 1953T Dodgers - 1 76 221 254 258 263 1952T Dodgers - 1 20 36 66=AE 188 205 273 274 312 314 319 320 321 326 333 365 377 389 390 394 395 396 1952T Cardinals - 19 65 91 334 378 386=AE 398 The following basketball cards would fill my binders also J 1969-70T (2 remaining) 20(Havlicek) 25(Alcindor) 1970-71T (86 remaining) 1 2 4 5=AE 7 10 11=AE 13 14=AE 15 20 23 24=AE 25 28 29=AE 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 40 41 43=AE 47=AE 48 49 50 59 62=AE 65 66 69=AE 70 72 73 74 75 80 83 84=AE 86 87 95 97 100 103 106 107 108 109 111 112 114 116 118=AE120 121=AE122=AE123 125 130 131=AE132 136=AE137 138=AE139 142 143 144=AE148=AE149 164=AE165 168 171 172 173 174 175 1971-72T (60 remaining) - 1 2 10 12 13 29 30 35 42=AE 46 47 50 54 55 63 65 70 73=AE 78 85=AE 87 91 95 100 101 104=AE107 109 121 124 133 138 139 140 142 149 153 154 156 160 161 166 168 170 178 181 190=AE191 192 195=AE200 201 204 205208 213 215 219 222 224 225 232 233 1972-73T (74 remaining) 1 6 7 10 21 25 31 32 44=AE 45 47 55 67 74 75 80 8190 92 95 100 103 104 105 110 122 127 129 130 131 133 136 139 140 143 144 145 146 148=AE 150=AE152 158 159 160 161 162 163 165 166 167 168 169 171 172 173 175 180 183 185 194 195 196 201 203 206 230 248 249 250 251 255 256 259 260 261 262 263 264 1975-76T (60 remaining) 5 6 24 28 37 42 47 50 53 60 70 72 77 79 85 88=AE 9092 96 100 114 117 122 125 126 127 139=AE143 155 163 169 170 172 182 184 192 196 197 205=AE208 222 233 246 250 253=AE254 257 282 283 289 290 298 299 301 306308 318 322 1976-77T (1 remaining) 48(Checklist)(DC) 1977-78T (1 remaining) 65 I came across some old hockey sets that I had started but never finished completing them. 69-70T (3 remaining) - 24(Orr) 108=AE132 Stop here if you're are not into new stuff which may require sunglasses. :-) UV Infested Baseball Cards Wantlist 1998F Sports Illustrated Cooperstown Collection- 3 5 8 10 1998F Sports Illustrated Baseball '99 - 1 4 8 10 13 17 23 27 34 40 44 49 55 62 73 75 76 85 90 92 95 102 110 125 131 136 139 146 148 151 157 161 175 177 180 1996TSC Mantle (I need 12 13 ) 1996CC - 6 48 66 127 134 181 183 201 230 231 233 239 317 327 336 340 1996TSC - 22 49 61 80 109 120 165 187 190 192 200 202-204 214 216 222 225 233 245 246 248 250 253 262 265 268 269 1996T Traded - 131 1995T Embossed - 134 1995T - 389 1994F - 396 1994TSC - 539 540 643 1993The Ted Williams Card Co. - LP1 3 1992TSC - 597 1991FU - 111 (James) 116 (Webster) UV Infested Basketball Cards Wantlist 1995-96F - 129 144 1995-96T - 2 139 1995-96TSC - 11 22 44 55 66 77 88 91-93 99 139 144 154 155 157 177 NBA Draft Picks - #317,318,321,322,324,330,334,339-341,345-348 1995-96U - 323 1994-95F - 1 123 224 241-389 1994-95T - 284 1992-93H - 309 1993 Classic - 288 295 298 301 306 310 ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 12:39:22 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Goin on a trip From: Mark S Talbot Hello All, I'll be out of touch for 1 week - Goin to the Lake!!!! Spending a week on Lake Huron with the Family Church Camp - I'll get with you all afterwards because I will have no internet access for a week. BE WELL!!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * ================= Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 14:42:40 EDT Subject: The next time you see me... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, jgreco@us.imshealth.com From: cardclctor@aol.com ...make sure I'm not drinking any alcohol. I reminded myself Friday night why I rarely have anything to drink. Our last softball game of the season (we were knocked out of the playoffs) was followed by a quick round at the local cafe which sponsored the team this season. I had a few pearl harbors and found myself unable to hold anything down the next morning... not even water. Things are much better now that I've had a couple of those I.V. bags put into me. I guess I dehydrated myself pretty effectively (nothing to eat, playing softball on a hot day, etc...) So if you buy a round at the Nats next year, don't get mad if I order a soda ;-) Belated thanks got out to Steve Rittenberg, who sent me a 1956 SCP depicting the Orioles team. This is the left justified, grey back, dinged corner variation - well, the dinged corner isn't a variation (more like the norm), but all that other stuff qualifies it as a hit to my wantlist - the last grey back I needed. THANKS STEVE!! Gotta get some juice to drink. TAYL, Ken M ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 5...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine A Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:45:44 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game (Dodgers Vs Phillies), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is...."7"! Will the following bidders: Griffen, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, Newcomb Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. Thanks! Sorry for the delay, but last night I was hosting my first Modular-Nine party and needless to say, but things are still a bit "woo-bly"..... All Mod-9 games were cancelled for tonight! -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Auction.... Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:22:38 -0400 From: "Rick Redpath" Iggy will have us all majoring in math pretty soon... In the meantime, here's a hot tip that might give you the edge on the competition. While all across the world, OBCers are struggling to find a box score and add up all the numbers, you can do this: Look for any 9s, or any combination of numbers that equal 9. Then throw them out! Ignore them! Same thing for 0, although that's pretty obvious. Now just add up whatever's left. This might save you a lot of time and a lot of work and might make the difference between you, the lucky bidder, snagging that 1958 Earl Battey Tipton Edition (Lot 019) rather than getting stuck with the regular 1958 Earl Battey (Lot 018). You'll want to thank me when you get it, but that's quite all right, you needn't. Plus I'll probably be in Maine by then so I'll be out of touch anyway. Now, if you've had your coffee this morning, you might notice that this little trick could allow you to throw out ALL the numbers, leaving a Mod-9 of 0. And that doesn't look like a good answer, but don't worry. Iggy was probably too polite to have a Team Zero so he went with 1 through 9. If your answer is 0 then just make it 9 instead. Got it? Everybody? All right, I gotta go. - Rick For those not sure how to keep score, here is a simpler example (I hope?), using last night's box score: R H E Giants 6 11 0 Reds 4 9 2 To tabulate the Mod-9 number of the day, add all the numbers (from the box score) together. 6+4+11+9+0+2=32 Now, take the total (which was "32" in our example) and add both numbers together (3 + 2 = "5"). Thus, we now have last nights Mod-9 number of the day (which was "5"). ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #006....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:02:11 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello bidders, Modular-Nine-Auction-Headquarters is back online as Day #006 starts anew. We do have some exciting news to report: CONSIGNMENTs are now being accepted! Why consign to us? Do you want to be a part of the most innovative auction on the internet? Receive the highest OBC bids possible on your next available list? And in the process, empty out your dup box of those hole-punched, written-on and trimmed cards (no need to have anymore sleepless nights wondering if anybody will ever claim that Tipton '67 Ken Holtzman RC you've had on your available list since the summer of '73)? Using my Mod-9 auction, unsuspecting bidders will be so confused trying to sort everything out, that the '67 Holtzman RC will be claimed in a matter of hours. We also guarantee the most precise and consistent grading in the industry (see the OBC web page under "Guru's Grading.")! So drop us a line, you will find our fee is more then reasonable. As per our rules and regulations; Griffen, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, and Newcomb are out'a here. Here is tonight's game. TODAY's MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/13/2001): Chicago Cubs vs Houston (game time: 8:05 ET) If the game is postponed then we use: 1. Pittsburgh vs Arizona or/and 2. Cincinnati vs St. Louis or/and 3. Minnesota vs Tampa Bay Here are today's bidders! What a "battle royal" this is going to be. A six-man tag team, with the winner avoiding the distinction of losing every single game (which is roughly equivalent to what a dead person without a bidder number could have done...). 001: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 002: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 003: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 006: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 007: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles Following Lots were claimed: 008 1958 Snider #088 028 1959 Maris #202 (*****) 045 1960 Banks A/S #560 051 1961 Berra #472 MVP 074 1962 Killebrew IA #316 102 1965 Gibson #320 125 1967 Maris #045 145 1968 Seaver #045 (*****) 162 1969 Fingers RC #597 197 1966 hi# 562 201 1954 (Bowman) Harvey Kueen RC #023 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 052 1961 Kaline #429 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 068 1962 Torre RC #218 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 131 1967 Gibson #210 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 137 1967 Perry #320 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1971 "LARGE" Brooks Robinson #059 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: Subject: Lotsa Cards - Need to Sell Some Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:04:34 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Guys: You may recall the collection I was looking at buying. Well I bought it and am psyched but also a little uncertain about my collecting and trading approaches going forward as I am going to have to sell alot of cards to recoup part (actually most) of the investment. The collection (here is a link to more detail ...... http://members.home.net/chuckparis/dh.html) has full sets from 1957 forward (except 1963, 67 and68) plus partial sets that do have alot of the biggies from 1951-56. Alsomany HOFers and star dups and a ton of common dups. I'd say 80% of the cards are Ex/Mt. In addition to selling, my collecting is going to change in that I'll have finished most years after 57 and will start a few between 51 and 56. Plus I'll probably focus more on higher grade cards (Ex or better). The good news is that alot of my lower grade stuff will become dups now ! Here are a couple of issues I'd really like to get some input on .... 1. If you sell much on eBay or otherwise, any advice you might have on strategies would be most welcome especially any advice on balancing a dual life as an OBCer and a dealer scum. 2. I don't want to offend the entire group with more messages oriented toward selling, so if you'd be willing to listen to them individually please lmk. I've got alot of things going thru my mind like auction software, credit cards, grading services etc. 3. Look over the collection linked above and lmk if there are any biggies that you'd be interested in trading for. Thanks for reading, ================= To: Subject: A query for T206 experts Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 15:37:41 -0500 From: "tim newcomb" Take a look at your T206 reprint set ("The Monster") if you have one. I was looking at mine for the first time since I started doing the real thing, and I discovered a second Eddie Collins pose, which isn't in the original set. Does anyone know the story on this? Thanks, Tim ================= To: "OBC Ramblings (E-mail)" , "Tigers Mailing List (E-mail)" , "Alan Carr (E-mail)" , "Alison Miller (E-mail)" , "Barry Stewart (E-mail)" , "Carol Codere (E-mail)" To: "Chris Dunn (E-mail)" , "David McHarg (E-mail)" , "Don Codere (E-mail)" , "Don Spaeth (E-mail)" , "Finlay Marshall (E-mail)" , "Geraldine Russell (E-mail)" To: "Glenn's Work (E-mail)" , "Heather Liggat (E-mail)" , "John Linardi (E-mail)" , "John Tomlinson (E-mail)" , "Joyce Monaghan (E-mail)" , "Karina Bowlby (E-mail)" To: "Kathi Pilkington (E-mail)" , "Kenny McIntyre (E-mail)" , "Kim Everett (E-mail)" , "Laurent Lot (E-mail)" , "Mark Getty (E-mail)" , "Martin Krievs (E-mail)" To: "Patricia Quinn (E-mail)" , "Paul Richmond (E-mail)" , "Rikki Gemmell (E-mail)" , "Robin Poole (E-mail)" <3lilpigs@laplaza.org>, "Sherrill DeShano (E-mail)" , "Thomas Quinn (E-mail)" Subject: Maureen & Glenn's Housewarming Photos Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:03:26 +0100 From: Glenn Codere Here's a link to our photo page. There's an annoying little advert that pops up, but just cancel it out by clicking Close twice, then X it out. (It's a persistent little bugger!) ================= To: , "tim newcomb" Subject: Wantlist......50's, 60's, 70's, T205, T206 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:34:46 -0400 From: "galtemos" I have been a member of OBC for some time, although this is my first attempt to use this "group e-mail" arrangement. Mt wantlist is attached. I have quite a few cards to trade from the same Best regards, > From: tim newcomb > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] A query for T206 experts > Date: Monday, August 13, 2001 4:37 PM > Take a look at your T206 reprint set ("The Monster") if you have one. I > looking at mine for the first time since I started doing the real thing, > I discovered a second Eddie Collins pose, which isn't in the original > Does anyone know the story on this? > Thanks, Tim > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: '52 parkhurst baseball on ebay Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:32:16 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" Check this one out. I have never heard of these.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1175113177 ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 6...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:44:14 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game (Cubs Vs Houston), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is...."9"! Will the following bidders: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference) A.S.A.P. Thanks! Since we have to mercifully end Round #1, will the following bidders: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair Also come forward and claim your lot. Thank you for participating in my auction! Despite pleas to end the auction, and against my better judgment (as if six days of this isn't enough!). We will continue with one more round before putting this baby to sleep. A slight twist in the rules should perk things up. "There is nothin' as exciting as a perky mod-9 auction." -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: "OBC Ramblings (E-mail)" , "Alan Carr (E-mail)" , "Alison Miller (E-mail)" , "Barry Stewart (E-mail)" , "Carol Codere (E-mail)" , "Chris Dunn (E-mail)" To: "David McHarg (E-mail)" , "Don Codere (E-mail)" To: "Heather Liggat (E-mail)" , "John Linardi (E-mail)" , "John Tomlinson (E-mail)" , "Joyce Monaghan (E-mail)" , "Karina Bowlby (E-mail)" , "Kathi Pilkington (E-mail)" To: "Kenny McIntyre (E-mail)" , "Kim Everett (E-mail)" , "Laurent Lot (E-mail)" , "Mark Getty (E-mail)" , "Martin Krievs (E-mail)" , "Patricia Quinn (E-mail)" To: "Paul Richmond (E-mail)" , "Rikki Gemmell (E-mail)" , "Robin Poole (E-mail)" <3lilpigs@laplaza.org>, "Sherrill DeShano (E-mail)" , "Thomas Quinn (E-mail)" Subject: Maureen & Glenn's Housewarming Photos Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:12:19 +0100 From: Glenn Codere Apparently, a few people had some difficulty with the icon link that I posted last night. try this out! Here's a link to our photo page. There's an annoying little advert that pops up, but just cancel it out by clicking Close twice, then X it out. (It's a persistent little bugger!) http://www.geocities.com/glenncodere/TheHousewarming.html ================= To: seanobc@mediaone.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '52 parkhurst baseball on ebay Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:17:58 From: "Al Cummings" I would split the lot with another type card collector Big Al in Seattle >From: "Sean McGowan" >To: "ramblings" >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '52 parkhurst baseball on ebay >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:32:16 -0400 >Check this one out. I have never heard of these.... >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1175113177 >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:37:08 EDT Subject: Re: T206 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: dsh46@aol.com In a message dated 08/14/2001 10:10:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: << Take a look at your T206 reprint set ("The Monster") if you have one. I looking at mine for the first time since I started doing the real thing, and I discovered a second Eddie Collins pose, which isn't in the original set. Does anyone know the story on this? >> there is a collins proof card that has a different pose (he holds a bat to his left (to the right on the card) and it may have been put into that set instead of the normal portrait card. ================= Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:32:54 -0400 (EDT) To: "ramblings" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] '52 parkhurst baseball on ebay From: Neal Thomas I have 8 of these cards I picked up for next to nothing. They are Canadian Minor League cards, produced by the Canadian competitor for Kool-Aid, and the players I have are from the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Ottawa Athletics. There are also cards from the Montreal Royals. There are also some non-player cards--two I have are a quiz question and "How to throw a change up--great card, by the way! There are 100 cards, with 1-25, and 49-100 being short printed. Hope this helps. ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: "Sean McGowan" Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] '52 parkhurst baseball on ebay Date: 08/14/2001 09:32am Check this one out. I have never heard of these.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1175113177 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 04:19:44 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Back From Camden Yards :ATTENTION O'S AND RED SOX FANS From: coop951@optonline.net Hi Guys I am just back from my week at Camden Yards filming a Coke commercial with Cal Ripken Jr . I worked on a film crew as the Key Grip ( Film Technician: I set up the cameras and lights ) .As you might have figured Cal was a complete professional and a nice guy. One night we had him till 2:30 am after their loss on Sunday , and he really hung in.The commercial also has his daughter in it.The story is : Cal is alone in the park re living flashbacks of his career...and drinking a Coke.His daughter calls him and asks if he's ready.He looks around one more time and walks off with his daughter ...also drinking a I got to spend time in both dug outs after Saturday and Sundays games Sitting on the bench and looking out to the field was quite thrilling...and I thought of our group and how many guys would love to be here right now...Now I couldnt do anything about that but I thought...what can I do ...So I thought the next best thing would be to try to find some stuff in the dugouts that I can give away.I started scavaging around and found the lineup card ( actually now computer generated) on the wet floor next to the phone...wow...not bad. I placed it under one of our lights and its ready for PSA. This was in the Orioles dugout.I walk over to the Red sox dugout but nothing on wall or floor.At that time we all moved into the Red Sox bull pen to do a shot from there. I walk over to the bullpen bench and guess whats hanging there...another lineup card...Excellent. On my way back to the field I look at behind the bench where everyone keeps their drinks and sunflower seeds and I notice that some drinks have players numbers on their Powerade...humm...I bet there are some guys in the group who might want to have some game used bottles of their favorite players...so... This is what I have: 2 official lineups from Sat. Aug 11th Baltimore vs Boston 5 game used bottles from #s 12 , 24 , 25, 36 , 23 all in gold sharpie and maybe in their own hand. 1 Oriole press release from the game. 8 double sidded pages plus 6 more pages of News and Notes on Boston. These are up for grabs. Im not sure of a fair way to do this yet if there is alot of interest in them.The bottles are 1 of a kind but I could make copies of the rest if you guys want it.Again if I owe you big ... Ill try to figure it out.Whoever wants a copy LMK Good stories always appreciated Jim Cooper ================= Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 05:04:06 -0400 (EDT) To: john harrell Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance question From: Josephine Sue Young Bama(and everyone) Surpringly, I've thought about your insurance question quite a bit. It seems that $20 is excessive for $1000 worth of coverage. This premium implies approximately a 1 in 50 chance of you losing your collection in any given year. Clearly that is way too high. I would be surprised if the odds were as bad as 1 in 500 (which implies a $2 per $1000 premium). This rate should also be significantly lower if insurance is purchased by the group rather than by the individual. I looked around a little to see if anybody offered group insurance rates, but didn't find anything. The group is possibly large enough to insure itself. If 100 OBC'ers paid half of what Bama was quoted for $5000 worth of insurance, we would have the $5000 to cover a loss. The benefit of this arrangement is that it would only require a one time payment and would be good until someone lost their collection. However, if multiple losses occurred in the same year, the payout would have to be shared. So, some mechanism of self insurance looks to be possible if the group cannot find insurance on the market. Does anybody know of rates better than what Bama was quoted? Anybody know anything about obtaining group insurance? Is self insurance a Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts. On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, john harrell wrote: > About a year and a half or more ago there were some inquiries about > insurance coverage for card collections. I called the company > recommended by Jim Montgomery (Cleland and Associates) and they quoted > me a price of $22.50 per $1000 assessed value. They also require a home > security system (which I have) and a T-15 or T-30 home safe. My > homeowners policy with Allstate doesn't cover sports cards. In fact > I've yet to find anyone else who will. Can anybody out there steer me > toward another company? > Bama > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance question To: Josephine Sue Young , From: Terry Dietrick That premium seems to be in line with what I pay. I pay $25.00/yr. per $1000 in coverage. If there is something cheaper out there I certainly would want to know. In addition, I had a claim against mine about 15 years ago. The adjuster came up and wanted me to have them appraised so they knew how much to loss was. Interesting situation! Who is going to appraise the lose on cards already damaged? ME! I looked up the mint price in Buckett and submitted the claim and they paid it. I asked him what I should do with the water damaged cards. He said just throw them out. Right! I still have them, but spent the $600. That's my take on that. Anyone else have any leads on card insurance? Let us know,Terry --- Josephine Sue Young wrote: > Bama(and everyone) > Surpringly, I've thought about your insurance > question quite a bit. It > seems that $20 is excessive for $1000 worth of > coverage. This premium > implies approximately a 1 in 50 chance of you losing > your collection in > any given year. Clearly that is way too high. I > would be surprised if the > odds were as bad as 1 in 500 (which implies a $2 per > $1000 premium). This > rate should also be significantly lower if insurance > is purchased by the > group rather than by the individual. I looked around > a little to see > if anybody offered group insurance rates, but didn't > find anything. > The group is possibly large enough to insure itself. > If 100 OBC'ers paid > half of what Bama was quoted for $5000 worth of > insurance, we would have > the $5000 to cover a loss. The benefit of this > arrangement is that it > would only require a one time payment and would be > good until someone lost > their collection. However, if multiple losses > occurred in the same year, > the payout would have to be shared. So, some > mechanism of self insurance > looks to be possible if the group cannot find > insurance on the market. > Does anybody know of rates better than what Bama was > quoted? Anybody know > anything about obtaining group insurance? Is self > insurance a > possiblility? > Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts. > Mac > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, john harrell wrote: > > About a year and a half or more ago there were > some inquiries about > > insurance coverage for card collections. I called > the company > > recommended by Jim Montgomery (Cleland and > Associates) and they quoted > > me a price of $22.50 per $1000 assessed value. > They also require a home > > security system (which I have) and a T-15 or T-30 > home safe. My > > homeowners policy with Allstate doesn't cover > sports cards. In fact > > I've yet to find anyone else who will. Can > anybody out there steer me > > toward another company? > > > > Bama > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ================= Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:20:46 -0400 Subject: Insurance To: OBC-Ramblings From: Brock Hattox I have renters insurance through Firemans Fund. I had Roger Neufelt my cards the last time he was in Atlanta for a show. I sent the appraisal my insurance broker and had coverage added for listed collectibles. The coverage costs less than $4 per $1000 per year. ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #007....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:11:55 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-Nine bidders, Round #001 is now history and after a very heated debate with the Mod-9 board of directors. I was able to garnish enough votes and gain approval, plus funding for the commencement of Round #2. All expelled bidders are subsequently reinstated. Welcome back (of course, a couple of team's (who shall go unnamed) never did leave us)! In an effort to reduce my dupes, "23" more lots were added. Since almost all the bidders finally understand the process, the rules and guidelines will be kept the same -- with only one slight difference. In this round, high bidders "may" select 2 lots from the available list. But there is a small caveat. One of the cards at your discretion, must be for another OBCer! Let me repeat this, as high bidder two cards are claimed but one of the cards must be for another OBCer of your choice (it can be a Modular-nine participant or not)! Here is a sample of the type of email I should receive if you are a high bidder: Dear Iggy, Glad to hear I was the high bidder. Here are my choices from your latest available list, in order of preference: #043 60 F Robinson, #092 64 Lolich RC, #148 67 Yankees TC I also would like to send the following to fellow OBCer ("insert name here"), in order of preference: #1000 Goudey 1932 Ruth (*****), #1300 T206 Grover Cleveland Alexander #799 1956 Bowman Mantle (*****) Thank you! The great part about this format is "Free postage" in the continental United States and beyond. So look over my available list closely and see if you can find a match for a fellow OBCer. Just as an FYI, your host does have a perference list from "most" bidders in the auction. If asked, and if available I will provide one. So, now we must begin the process! Here is tonight's "Modular-Nine" game: TODAY's MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/15/2001): Seattle vs Boston (game time: 7:05 ET) If the game is postponed then we use: 1. Minnesota vs Cleveland or/and 2. Anaheim vs Detroit or/and 3. Oakland vs Toronto Here are the bidders with their pre-assigned bidder number! 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers 002: D.Smith, M.Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 004: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb Following Lots were claimed: 023 1958 Banks A/S #482 032 1959 Fox/Aparicio #408 052 1961 Kaline #429 058 1962 Musial #050 059 1962 Clemente LL #052 068 1962 Torre RC #218 089 1963 Banks/Aaron #242 119 1966 Jenkins RC #254 131 1967 Gibson #210 137 1967 Perry #320 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 012 1958 Hodges #162 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 043 1960 F Robinson #490 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 055 1962 Kaat #021 (writing on front) 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 063 1962 Alou #133 (writing on front) 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1971 "LARGE" Brooks Robinson #059 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 208 1955 (Bowman) Harvey Kueen (real nice but slightly trimed) 209 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#056, 076, 106, 107, 120) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 217 1966 Semi-high lot (#492, 499, 502, 503, 508) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson (*****) 222 1969 Killebrew #375 223 1969 Drysdale #400 224 1969 Kaline #410 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: 1962 Topps high #'s from a good dealer Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:05:45 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" these cards are in pretty nice shape, very "clean" and mike is a perfect gentleman and scholar :) Reply to him, not to me... his email is: > TOPPS: > 1962 1 535: Ed Roebuck Dodgers $ 3.00 > 1 563: Ken Aspromonte Indians 3.00 > 1 578: Jim Duffalo Giants 3.00 > 1 589: Bob Turley Yankees 3.00 > If you want the 4, I'll offer them for $10 delivered. If suitable, > send your $10 to: > Mike Bird, P.O. Box 656, Rooseveltown, New York, 13683 ================= Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:07:15 -0400 To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Insurance question From: Dan Austin I like the idea of OBC self insuring. Anyone know how we could do this? At 12:54 PM 8/15/01, you wrote: >That premium seems to be in line with what I pay. I >pay $25.00/yr. per $1000 in coverage. If there is >something cheaper out there I certainly would want to >know. In addition, I had a claim against mine about 15 >years ago. The adjuster came up and wanted me to have >them appraised so they knew how much to loss was. >Interesting situation! Who is going to appraise the >lose on cards already damaged? ME! I looked up the >mint price in Buckett and submitted the claim and they >paid it. I asked him what I should do with the water >damaged cards. He said just throw them out. Right! I >still have them, but spent the $600. That's my take on >that. Anyone else have any leads on card insurance? >Let us know,Terry >--- Josephine Sue Young wrote: > > Bama(and everyone) > > > > Surpringly, I've thought about your insurance > > question quite a bit. It > > seems that $20 is excessive for $1000 worth of > > coverage. This premium > > implies approximately a 1 in 50 chance of you losing > > your collection in > > any given year. Clearly that is way too high. I > > would be surprised if the > > odds were as bad as 1 in 500 (which implies a $2 per > > $1000 premium). This > > rate should also be significantly lower if insurance > > is purchased by the > > group rather than by the individual. I looked around > > a little to see > > if anybody offered group insurance rates, but didn't > > find anything. > > > > The group is possibly large enough to insure itself. > > If 100 OBC'ers paid > > half of what Bama was quoted for $5000 worth of > > insurance, we would have > > the $5000 to cover a loss. The benefit of this > > arrangement is that it > > would only require a one time payment and would be > > good until someone lost > > their collection. However, if multiple losses > > occurred in the same year, > > the payout would have to be shared. So, some > > mechanism of self insurance > > looks to be possible if the group cannot find > > insurance on the market. > > > > Does anybody know of rates better than what Bama was > > quoted? Anybody know > > anything about obtaining group insurance? Is self > > insurance a > > possiblility? > > > > Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts. > > > > Mac > > > > > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, john harrell wrote: > > > > > About a year and a half or more ago there were > > some inquiries about > > > insurance coverage for card collections. I called > > the company > > > recommended by Jim Montgomery (Cleland and > > Associates) and they quoted > > > me a price of $22.50 per $1000 assessed value. > > They also require a home > > > security system (which I have) and a T-15 or T-30 > > home safe. My > > > homeowners policy with Allstate doesn't cover > > sports cards. In fact > > > I've yet to find anyone else who will. Can > > anybody out there steer me > > > toward another company? > > > > > > Bama > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ >Yahoo! Groups Sponsor >6d0a9.jpg >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the >Yahoo! Terms of Service. Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare ================= To: Subject: 1957 Available Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:37:04 -0400 From: "Bob Donaldson" I've decided to give up the quest for the 1957 Topps set. This leaves me with a bunch of availables, so if you are collecting this set let me know and I will check your wantlist. Many of my cards have been trimmed around the border, so let me know if these cards are acceptable. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 05:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fwd: [OBC-Thanks] Fwd: Unable to deliver your message To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman To: OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: John Storman Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OBC-Thanks] Fwd: Unable to deliver your message Date: 15 Aug 2001 20:45:21 -0000 To: jstorman2001@yahoo.com From: Yahoo! 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If you would like to subscribe to this group: 1. visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OBC-Ramblings/join 2. send email to OBC-Ramblings-subscribe@yahoogroups.com If you would like to specify an alternate email address: 1. visit http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs?edit=2 2. type your alternate email address in the area labeled "Alternate posting addresses". 3. click the "Save Changes" button 4. wait approximately 10 minutes for the change to take effect After you follow these steps, you will be able to send messages to all your groups using this alternate email address. For further assistance, please email support@yahoogroups.com or visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/ ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:58:55 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 52 Mantle and Pafko From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all I received the following.. and I can not do the following trade but I thought maybe one of you guys can.. Hi, I have a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 in good condition and a 1952 Topps #1 Andy Pafko in very good condition. Are you interested in obtaining the card? Together, the two cards in the conditions they are in, are worth approximately $3500. I'm more willing to trade than sell. However, I prefer to trade the Mantle and Pafko for equally expensive cards, or for cards worth at least $25 each. I'll also trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $250, I will not be the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and relative time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned this the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $280 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of references if you want them. The references are: Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to trade. Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to see the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks. Mark Young ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 7...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:14:30 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game (Seattle Vs Boston), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is....wait a second, this can't be? Let me add-up the figures again......Holy Mackerel, Team 4 wins!!! Team 4 wins! Simply unbelievable! If you recall, in the first round, Team 4 did not win one single game. Let me be the first to congratulate them.....Congratulations! I'd never thought I would say this but the Modular-Nine number of the day is "4" Will the following bidders: M.Rich, Svetecz, H.Morgan, Moleta, D'Angelo, Sinclair Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference). But that is not all! Since we are now in ROUND 2, please also claim a lot for an OBCer of your choice (listing a 2nd are 3rd preference as I know, I know, claiming a card for another OBCer (and only one OBCer at that!), using the dupes of somebody else doesn't seem all that logical. But hey, my intention in running this Modular-Nine auction from the onset was to give away my available's and at the same time have some fun with it. Hence, although a bit "hokie", I thought it would be interesting to let other OBCers claim cards for other OBCers. Thanks! -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:41:01 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko From: Neal Thomas Quick word of warning--AVOID THIS GUY--he has offered these cards to many OCT members, and does not seem ot be on the up and up. ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: KEVINM38@aol.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko Date: 08/16/2001 01:58pm Hi all I received the following.. and I can not do the following trade but I thought maybe one of you guys can.. Hi, I have a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 in good condition and a 1952 Topps #1 Andy Pafko in very good condition. Are you interested in obtaining the card? Together, the two cards in the conditions they are in, are worth approximately $3500. I'm more willing to trade than sell. However, I prefer to trade the Mantle and Pafko for equally expensive cards, or for cards worth at least $25 each. I'll also trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $250, I will not be the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and relative time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned this the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $280 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of references if you want them. The references are: Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to trade. Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to see the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks. Mark Young To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #008....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:54:59 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-Nine bidders, Before we begin Day #008 (which is really Day #002 of Round Two), I must equivocally state, that in the long history of OBC (as well as OCT, and VCT, and OPCC, and "(insert trading club of the moment here)") no one individual has milked their available list more then your host (that's me...Iggy). Eight days (and counting) of the same available list (over and over again) is an incredible legacy, which we will probably not see again in our lifetime. So I would like to take a moment and thank everyone for making my available list a part of your daily life's..................(insert moment of silence here).......................... One last bit of news to report. Thanks to the overwhelming response, to my request for "consignments", I am happy to report that the next "Modular-Nine auction" will take place during the Summer of 2004. Please mark your calendars, hope to see your there!!! Two different Mod-9 games will be played today -- here they are: TODAY's Game #001 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/16/2001): Anaheim vs Detriot (game time: 1:05 ET) TODAY's Game #002 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/16/2001): Pittsburgh vs Houston (game time: 8:05 ET) If the either game is postponed then we use: 1. Tampa Bay vs Yankees or/and 2. Minnesota vs Cleveland or/and 3. Atlanta vs Colorado Here are the bidders!!! 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers 002: D.Smith, M.Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West 003: Wubben, Haddix, Calvert, Nathan, Malson 004: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan Following Lots were claimed: 012 1958 Hodges #162 043 1960 F Robinson #490 077 1962 Frank Robinson #350 055 1962 Kaat #021 063 1962 Alou #133 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 033 1959 Colavitio #420 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 039 1960 Musial #250 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 048 1961 Ashburn #088 049 1961 Yankees #228 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 081 1962 Indians hi #537 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 160 1969 B Robinson #550 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 200 1971 "LARGE" Brooks Robinson #059 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 208 1955 (Bowman) Kiner #197 (real nice but slightly trimed) 209 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#056, 076, 106, 107, 120) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 217 1966 Semi-high lot (#492, 499, 502, 503, 508) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 222 1969 Killebrew #375 223 1969 Drysdale #400 224 1969 Kaline #410 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:25:35 -0500 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Insurance From: john harrell There appears to be a major difference in renter's coverage and home owners coverage. After much investigation, Met Life is the only company I've found which offer's coverage for sports cards to home owners, but require you to have both auto and homeowners coverage with them. Their track record of claims coverage is not good accrding to my life insurance agent, so I'm apparently stuck. I've called, among others, Fireman's fund, All State, State Farm, Met Life, Jim Montgomery's company, Cleland and Associates, and two purely collectibles insurance companies that I found on the internet. What I've been told by several companies is that they covered cards in the past but had too many claims and dropped coverage. At least one said that the market in cards was not stable enough for there to be reliable appraisal sources (sounds like B.S.). My life insurance agent said he would check around for me and see what he could find. I'll keep you I'm strongly considering moving at least a large portion of my stuff to a lock bax at the bank. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:11:00 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Hot off the presses From: Neal Thomas Good or bad--we will see: http://boston.com/dailynews/228/sports/Red_Sox_fire_Williams_in_middl: ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:31:20 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Hot off the presses To: nthomas@pol.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jocraig@aol.com Personally, I think it's about time. I think Williams' personal impressions of players influenced his decisions about them. As a prime example, Izzy Alcantara a Triple Crown contender in the minors hasn't been called up. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:26:16 -0700 (PDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko From: rdn56 I've never received a note from this guy, but when I first read it (before reading Neal's warning) two big "how stupid do I look" lights went off. Maybe I'm wrong but: 1. You don't have to send first--we'll mail at the same time--right, and I know you've mailed them because???? 2. A list of references where every one is a mail account that you can get for free--i.e., one person could get them all without investing a penny. Plus a bounus warning--a "good" 1952 Mantle, hmm, could this be the infamous torn in two 52 Mantle? >On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:58:55 -0000 KEVINM38@aol.com wrote. >Hi all I received the following..
>and I can not do the following trade but I thought maybe one of you
>guys can..
>Hi, I have a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 in good condition and a
>1952 Topps #1 Andy Pafko in very good condition. Are you interested
>in obtaining the card? Together, the two cards in the conditions they
>are in, are worth approximately $3500. I'm more willing to trade than
>sell. However, I prefer to trade the Mantle and Pafko for equally
>expensive cards, or for cards worth at least $25 each. I'll also
>trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading
>cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value
>exceed $250, I will not be the first one to send, and you don't have
>to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and relative
>time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped
>off. I learned this the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth
>$280 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of
>references if you want them.
>The references are:
>Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if
>you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to trade.
>Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to see
>the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website,
>please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks.
>Mark Young
> > > > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:26:31 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko From: Neal Thomas Well, maybe I was wrong. I mean, if the guy has trading references surfin871us, cutekate25, hotstuff88, how dishonest can he be?? I don't think anyone called cutekate can be bad! ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: rdn56 Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko Date: 08/16/2001 12:26pm I've never received a note from this guy, but when I first read it reading Neal's warning) two big "how stupid do I look" lights went Maybe I'm wrong but: 1. You don't have to send first--we'll mail at the same time--right, and I know you've mailed them because???? 2. A list of references where every one is a mail account that you can get for free--i.e., one person could get them all without investing a Plus a bounus warning--a "good" 1952 Mantle, hmm, could this be the torn in two 52 Mantle? >On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:58:55 -0000 KEVINM38@aol.com wrote. >Hi all I received the following..
>and I can not do the following trade but I thought maybe one of you >guys can..
>Hi, I have a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 in good condition and a >1952 Topps #1 Andy Pafko in very good condition. Are you interested >in obtaining the card? Together, the two cards in the conditions they
>are in, are worth approximately $3500. I'm more willing to trade than
>sell. However, I prefer to trade the Mantle and Pafko for  equally >expensive cards, or for cards worth at least $25 each. I'll also
>trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading
>cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value
>exceed $250, I will not be the first one to send, and you don't have >to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and relative >time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped >off. I learned this the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth
>$280 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of
>references if you want them.
>The references are:
>Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if >you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to trade.
>Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to see
>the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, >please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks.
>Mark Young
> >
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Yahoo! Terms of To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:45:51 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: t206guy@aol.com I got an email from the same person touting his AARON ROOKIE that was in Ex condition. The letter was the same excpet for the card mentioned. I.E. it was a form letter. I would assume that there are easier ways to be ripped of if any of you are interested. I could send you one of my many H Wagner T206 cards in exchange for about 50, 000 worth of your collection. Did I mention that the H stands for Heine? There are always ways to find out about his legitimacy, however I don't think it is worth it. Perhaps if he had traded with someone that was known to us it would be different. ================= To: Subject: Re:'52 Mantle and Pafco Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:09:43 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" I just can't believe the negative vibes you guys are giving off here. With references like he's got, he could be President one day. The fact that he won't tell anyone his address shouldn't concern you either. Sometimes you just have to trust people. I know you would think that after 26 plus years in law enforcement, I might be a bit on the jaded side, perhaps even distrusting of people. To show you that I suffer no ill-effects of being lied to at least 20 times a day each day that I have worked over that time period, I'm going to make this guy a real solid offer. An even-up trade, his two '52's, for my last claim check from my dry cleaner's. And IT'S in Near Mint condition, so if anything, he's getting the better of me. Call it a sacrifice, just to prove you guys wrong. ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: 52 Mantle Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:49:43 -0400 From: "Bob" Hey guys, I've got the solution! I'm a judge, right? So why doesn't this guy send the cards to me, and I'll hold them until he makes a deal. And then I'll see that both parties get treated justly and fairly. Think he'll gofor ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 18:51:48 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: [Fwd: Richie Ashburn 1952] From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...I also got a trade "offer" from Mr. Young. It's attached. Can we verify that he's a ripoff artist? If we can...can we collectively teach him a lesson? We'll all send him a message (at the same time) asking what cards he wants (..something he asked us not to do). When he answers with "I have to see what you got", we can all (at the same time) send him a message with an attachment.....a big huge image file of the most worn out card in your collection. (I'm a ba-a-a-ad man, aren't I?) This guy and his stupid stipulations didn't warrant a reply from me. I want to thank you guys for confirming my suspicions. Thanx...Rick Svetecz...The Biggest Phillies Fan in Kansas GO! PHILLIES GO! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Richie Ashburn 1952 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:51:45 -0500 From: "Mark Young" Reply-To: tradncards123@angelfire.com Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) To: debrick@onemain.com Hi, I have a 1952 Topps #216 Richie Ashburn in near mint condition. Are you interested in obtaining the card? The card is worth $200 according to beckett and the condition it was in. I'm more willing to trade than sell. However, I prefer to trade the Ashburn for an equally expensive card, or for cards worth at least $25. I'll also trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $100.00, I will not be the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and relative time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned this the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $80 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of references if you want them. The references are: Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to trade. Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to see the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks. Mark Young Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:08:09 -0500 To: debrick@onemain.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Richie Ashburn 1952] From: Michael Wierzbicki Hi, Gang! Maybe another way to teach this con artist a lesson is to send emails to each of his "references" with a message such as the following: "To Whom It May Concern: I have received an invitation from Mark Young to trade expensive baseball cards. He gave you as a reference. However, the word I have heard from dozens of card traders on the internet is that he is not trustworthy. Because so many people have complained that he is a ripoff artist, I thought that, as one of his references, you should know about his reputation." What do you think? Mike Wierzbicki Rick & Deb wrote: > OBC Friends...I also got a trade "offer" from Mr. Young. It's attached. > Can we verify that he's a ripoff artist? If we can...can we collectively teach > him a lesson? We'll all send him a message (at the same time) asking what > cards he wants (..something he asked us not to do). When he answers with > "I have to see what you got", we can all (at the same time) send him a message > with an attachment.....a big huge image file of the most worn out card in your > collection. (I'm a ba-a-a-ad man, aren't I?) > This guy and his stupid stipulations didn't warrant a reply from me. > I want to thank you guys for confirming my suspicions. > Thanx...Rick Svetecz...The Biggest Phillies Fan in Kansas > GO! PHILLIES GO! > OBC-OK! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Richie Ashburn 1952 > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:51:45 -0500 > From: "Mark Young" > Reply-To: tradncards123@angelfire.com > Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) > To: debrick@onemain.com > Hi, I have a 1952 Topps #216 Richie Ashburn in near mint condition. Are you interested in obtaining > the card? The card is worth $200 according to beckett and the condition it was in. I'm more willing > to trade than sell. However, I prefer to trade the Ashburn for an equally expensive card, or for > cards worth at least $25. I'll also trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading > cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $100.00, I will not be > the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and > relative time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned this > the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $80 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I > have a list of references if you want them. > The references are: > surfin871us@yahoo.com > wren19@hotmail.com > sockofan55@angelfire.com > alts16@yahoo.com > manas870@lycos.com > cutekate25@usa.com > ace644@hotmail.com > einsteinli1976@excite.com > nerdyeb@yahoo.com > hotstuff88@mail.com > Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if you are, please send me a list of > the cards you are willing to trade. Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have > to see the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, please inform me of that > and give me your url again. Thanks. > Mark Young > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 8...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine A Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:47:50 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of this afternoon's Mod-9 game (Anaheim vs Detroit), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is....is "2" Will the following bidders: 002: D.Smith, M.Shirley, Wierzbicki, Dietrick, West Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference). But that is not all! Since we are now in ROUND 2, please also claim a lot for an OBCer of your choice (listing a 2nd are 3rd preference as -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:56:24 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Mr. Young From: bobs7714@aol.com Mr. Young is trying to con members of OCT as well as members of OBC. Joe Gelgot has a brother in law who is in the secret service in New York and has agreed to check this guy out. He can also check where this guy is registered and if the 10 references are indeed the same guy. Joe will keep a folder on the emails and correspondence from this crook. Joe`s email address is: Bob Schaub ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:40:31 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko To: nthomas@pol.net, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com All - I received the same offer from this guy and he also IMed me while on-line. When I questioned him he was somewhat evasive and when I asked him why he contacted me since I did not solicit any cards or respond to his email he went silent and didn't respond to me. ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 02:08:03 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: 52 Mantle .. From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi All, Sorry for my post yesterday about this trader trading his 52 Mantle.. I have heard he has been making the rounds..so stay clear it sounds like he is a rip-off. ================= Subject: Something tells me ... Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:13:27 -0400 To: "OBC Ramblings" From: Matthew Glidden ... this isn't what "1 of 1" really means: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1179490653 But of course! It's slabbed by CTA! It MUST be valid! OBC: Because every card is "one of one" ================= Subject: Attn: Brad Fullmer fans Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:28:34 -0400 To: "OBC Ramblings" From: Matthew Glidden I have a pair of the serial numbered Gold Label Class 2 cards for Fullmer, if anyone out there collects him. They are #113 and #114 of 699. OBC: Because every card is "one of one" ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:53:29 -0700 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Richie Ashburn 1952] From: Wayne Delia Rick & Deb wrote: > OBC Friends...I also got a trade "offer" from Mr. Young. It's attached. > Can we verify that he's a ripoff artist? If we can...can we collectively teach > him a lesson? As much as I'd really love to inflict what Abbie Hoffman called "monkey warfare" on this guy, let's be very careful here. Easiest - and worst - thing we can do is let him know we're on to him. Clearly, it's in nobody's best interest to pursue a trade with him. Collect as much info as you can find on him, along with each of the "sock-puppet" addresses below, lay low and keep quiet. For all we know, the FBI or BCI could be running a sting on him. Or we could create our own... Hmmmm.... > We'll all send him a message (at the same time) asking what > cards he wants (..something he asked us not to do). When he answers with > "I have to see what you got", we can all (at the same time) send him a message > with an attachment.....a big huge image file of the most worn out card in your > collection. (I'm a ba-a-a-ad man, aren't I?) Funny you should mention that. As chairman of the OBCAC, I've got my email address hooked up to advisory@oldbaseball.com, so I get the questions about OBC which lately have been not much more than "I have some old cards, how much are they worth?" but over the past week or so I've been getting silly-ass large files from many "different" people, each with the exact same accompanying message: something like "Hi. I'm sending you this file to get your advice. Have a nice day." The files are deleted unopened, "what with all the viruses and worms and Code Red and hey hey hey and the bad programs eating up my hard drive, owie..." (Professor Frink, on The Simpsons). I'm thinking of asking Dan Austin to deactivate the advisory thing temporarily until we can figure out what's going on. > This guy and his stupid stipulations didn't warrant a reply from me. > I want to thank you guys for confirming my suspicions. That's one of the biggest strengths of this gang. Wayne M. Delia, wmd.pks@verizon.net (formerly pb1940@banet.net) Delta Iota Chapter Advisor, Phi Kappa Sigma at Marist College Chairman, OBC (Old Baseball Cards) Advisory Committee "A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. I love baseball; it's my game." (Humphrey Bogart) ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:03:58 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Richie Ashburn 1952] To: wierzbickim@ameritech.net, debrick@onemain.com From: Wite3@aol.com Mike and all- Here is what is going on...this guy is a ripoff artist...he does not ask for money because it is a felony and you can have a record of a reciept or check. Trading and then selling on ebay is much harder to prove. If you really want him to do it, make sure he uses a real address, not a p.o. box, send the item insured with return reciept requested. Ask him to do the same (he will make an excuse). If he signs for it and and sends nothing he is caught...his "lost in the mail" won't hold up because he would have to produce the return reciept. This scam is as old as obc, i remember it from my prodigy days. ================= Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 23:15:01 EDT Subject: A quick update on my brother To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com All - My brother didn't have to have bypass surgery and he is home now doing very well, he even went back to work a few days this week for 1/2 days! He said he received several packages with really great cards from some of you that included Aaron's, Brett's and many more. He promised to write a note for me to pass along as soon as he feels up to it! For now, please accept my heartfelt THANKS for the true OBC spirit you have bestowed on my brother and me! I will never understand the true power of this group and that is as it should be. I know I will miss someone but he did mention Larry Tipton, Mac Wubben and Neal Thomas as names he remembered getting packages from. I know there are more and I hope to thank all of you as soon as I here from him. Another Baseball Quote: "The only way to prove you're a good sport is to lose." ------Ernie Banks Cubs infielder (1953-71) Tripleplay (Rick) ================= To: "RAMBLINGS" Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:32:25 -0800 From: "TnB Williams" I got one for a Ryan rookie as the first list on my wantlist is 1968s. Sound ----- Original Message ----- From: t206guy@aol.com To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] 52 Mantle and Pafko I got an email from the same person touting his AARON ROOKIE that was in Ex condition. The letter was the same excpet for the card mentioned. I.E. it was a form letter. I would assume that there are easier ways to be ripped if any of you are interested. I could send you one of my many H Wagner T206 cards in exchange for about 50, 000 worth of your collection. Did I mention that the H stands for Heine? There are always ways to find out about his legitimacy, however I don't think it is worth it. Perhaps if he had traded with someone that was known to us it would be different. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: apologies to bob Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 04:24:50 From: "jeff sinclair" you know you're a pirates fan when you make an error. sorry bob for naming you rick in my last thank you post. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:15:36 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: Mark Young/Aaron Rookie/ Marc Ehrenberg from Prodigy & AOL/ bluff From: keithsummers@webtv.net To: keithsummers@webtv.net Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:54:50 -0500 From: "Mark Young" Subject: Aaron Rookie Card ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 05:24:34 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@Yahoogroups.com Subject: bait for Mark Young/ trade for Aaron Rookie Card From: keithsummers@webtv.net From: KeithSummers@webtv.net Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:47:47 -0400 (EDT) To: tradncards123@angelfire.com Subject: Aaron Rookie Card ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 06:46:32 EDT Subject: Re: The Postman Cometh To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: kwg0@aol.com Hi! All, On the lighter side of the 100+ mailing that went out, I get back from the post office a classic. I received a plastic bag which contains a partial envelop with my return address and my written - Photos Enclosed/Do Not Bend on it. I have no idea whose package it was so I will apologize on behalf of our great postal system if you did not receive a package from me. ================= Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 07:12:14 EDT Subject: Re: Mantle To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com I was a little leery when I first read the message and looked at all the 'references' with free e-mail accounts. I was wondering if I had gotten a trade offer from him, so I checked my excite account for the first time in a couple weeks. Among the 50 or so spam messages was my invitation to trade! I feel so included now :-) I thought I'd have some fun too.... Here's my reply. BTW, I DO have dupes of most of the cards in the list in case he needs scans Hi Mark, I'd love to trade for the Mantle! Here's a few cards I have to trade off the top of the pile I'll send you: 1952 Bowman Phil Rizzuto #52 1952 Bowman Mays #218 1953 Bowman Color Pee Wee Reese #33 1955 Topps Koufax RC #123 1955 Topps Killebrew RC #124 1957 Topps Ted Williams #1 1960 Topps Yaz RC #148 1960 Topps McCovey RC #316 1964 Topps Mantle #50 1968 Topps Mantle #280 Let me know if this is a fair offer. I look forward to hearing from you, Ken Morganti On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 12:38:32 -0500, tradncards123@angelfire.com wrote: Hi, I have a 1952 Topps #311 Mickey Mantle in good condition. Are you interested in obtaining the card? The card is worth $2700 according to beckett and the condition it was in. I'm more willing to trade than sell. However, I prefer to trade the Mantle for an equally expensive card, or for cards worth at least $25. I'll also trade for sets if you want. I have a rule I standby when trading cards, and that rule is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $250.00, I will not be the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, both traders should agree on a date and relative time to send at the same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned this the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $280 in a previous trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of references if you want them. The references are: Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to trade. Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to see the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks. Mark Young Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 8...WINNERS...Game 2.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modul Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:10:35 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Game #2 Mod-9 game (Pittsburgh vs Houston), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day Will the following bidders: Wubben, Hattox, Calvert, Nathan, Malson Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference). But that is not all! Since we are now in ROUND 2, please also claim a lot for an OBCer of your choice (listing a 2nd are 3rd preference as -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: Subject: Collection Update Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:25:29 -0400 From: "Chuck Paris" Guys: Here's an update on the collection I bought and am going thru. So far I've made it thru the 1958's (it's almost like work ... fortunately it'sthe closest thing I have to work these days). I've updated the web page ( http://members.home.net/chuckparis/dh.html ) tolist out confirmed dups (thru 58) and likely dups (post 58). As I go thruthem, some of the cards aren't there (ex. 1955 Koufax) and others that weren't listed are (ex. 1957 Mantle). I knew that to be the case and so far I'm ahead of the game I think. On condition........ it seems that my excitement got the better of me. Clearly so far the mix is alot less than the 80% Ex/Mt I had stuck in my mind.It remains to be seen whether the post-59 cards will bring the average up. In addition, as I upgrade my sets, the nicer ones are going in and lesser condition cards are coming out as dups. Therefore, you'll note the list of cards available are in lesser condition as well. Thanks !!!!! .... to everyone who contacted me with advice and offers to trade and even buy. My plan is to concentrate on trading for the next two weeks and then my dad and I are going on a road trip out west for two weeks (I can't decide whether to take a vacation from cards or bring my laptop and scanner with me in the trailer ?!?!?). When I get back, I'll wrap up the trading and get down to business selling.I don't know if you recall that I left my job last spring. I think I'll probably find some work when tax season rolls around but until then 'I'll be full-time dealer scum ..... hopefully closer to the Kurt Tourdot variety than the Steve Verkman. As for trading in the meantime, I've added a bunch of sets ( http://members.home.net/chuckparis/ ) from 1953 forward and I'll be sure to treat all incomings as a trade and hit you back. If you have a biggy and want to worka deal out in advance, just holler. P.S. Does anybody have any thoughts on getting a few of these cards graded...... best company, most economical, location of any close to me so I could walk them in rather than trust the mail, upcoming shows at which I couldget it done ....etc. ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #009....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:08:58 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello bidders, At the commencement of Day #009 (which in Modular-Nine terms is really ZERO), I would like to clear-up a bit of confusion. When emailing your shipping info, please DO NOT put your street address or zip code in a Modular-Nine format. This will not create a problem here at Mod-9 headquarters, but the computers at the post office are not equipped to handle the modular conversion. I know, I know, the PO is still in the dark ages. Two games are scheduled for today, as we try to rapidly put this game out to pasture. I'm sorta' in a hurry, since I'm well-aware of the rumor within OBC -- that I am on the brink of expulsion for engaging in an endless Modular-Nine auction ramble. Speculation continues, on the amount of detriment this process has had on me and those who have followed along. TODAY's Game #001 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/17/2001): Kansas City vs Detriot (game time: 7:05 ET) TODAY's Game #002 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/17/2001): Atlanta vs San Francisco (game time: 10:05 ET) If the either game is postponed then we use: 1. Philadelphia vs St. Louis or/and 2. Montreal vs San Diego or/and 3. Tampa Bay vs Minnesota Here are the bidders!!! 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers 002: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 003: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 004: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 005: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 006: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan Following Lots were claimed: 022 1958 Mathews A/S #480 (writing on the front) 033 1959 Colavitio #420 039 1960 Musial #250 046 1961 Groat #001 048 1961 Ashburn #088 081 1962 Indians hi #537 160 1969 B Robinson #550 200 1971 "LARGE" Brooks Robinson #059 224 1969 Kaline #410 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 049 1961 Yankees #228 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 064 1962 Ruth #136 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 135 1967 Aaron #250 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 208 1955 (Bowman) Kiner #197 (real nice but slightly trimed) 209 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#056, 076, 106, 107, 120) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 217 1966 Semi-high lot (#492, 499, 502, 503, 508) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 222 1969 Killebrew #375 223 1969 Drysdale #400 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:53:17 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: 52 Mantle .. From: "Ken Morganti" Hey everyone, I'm trying to work a deal for this guy's 1952 Mantle, but feel free to make your own offers for it as well (or whatever other cards he 'has' to trade... I thought of something cute to try with this clown - If he accepts your trade offer, send him your name with MY ADDRESS (since he probably isn't going to send anything anyway) and we'll see how long it takes for him to catch on I might waste a stamp and send him scans of my 'trade bait' instead of the real cards just to be really irritating. (insert your name here) 41 Fuller St. Everett, MA 02149-4233 Sound like fun? Let the trading commence! ;-) Ken M --- In OBC-Ramblings@y..., KEVINM38@a... wrote: > Hi All, > Sorry for my post yesterday about this trader trading his 52 > I have heard he has been making the rounds..so stay clear it sounds > like he is a rip-off. > Regards, ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Scam artist Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:01:42 -0400 From: "James Moleta" Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Scam artist Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 12:07:42 -0400 From: "James Moleta" Hello all, Before the alarms went off on this guy, I sent him an email in reponse to his "NM 68 Ryan RC", asking what he wanted in exchange & where he heard about me and here's what he had to say: Hi, my fellow trader Steven Smagula(surfin871us@yahoo.com) told me he saw your website, and even though he had none of the cards on your wantlist, he knew I probably would. So he told me. He probably got your website on a search engine or something. In terms of cards, can you give me a list of all the cards of "star players" you have(Preferably vintage or at least before 1990). Use your best judgement to define "star players". I would definitely include players like Berra, Mantle, Koufax, Reggie Jackson, Rose, Killebrew, Aaron, Mays, Yaz, etc. on the list. In terms of sets, can you give me a list of all the complete sets you have? Also please put by it the value, and if it was/is hand-collated, opened factory, or sealed factory. Thanks. OK - so do we contact "Steven Smagula" (aka Mark?) & mess with him too? This guy is so fishy, but I dont have the time to mess w/ him - does anyone else wanna try? :-) Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Day_9=2E=2E=2EWINNERS=2E=2E=2E=2E_in_Iggy=27s_3?Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 13:25:00 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game (Kansas City vs Detroit), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is.... "2" -AND- after tabulating the results of last night's "2nd" Mod-9 game (Atlanta vs San Fran), the MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is........."4" Will the following bidders: 002: N.Thomas, Delong, Tipton, Codere, Wells, Olde Friar 004: Delott, Austin, Donaldson, Perry, Neil, Pigeon Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference). But that is not all! Since we are now in ROUND 2, please also claim a lot for an OBCer of your choice (listing a 2nd are 3rd preference as -Lovely Day, Iggy... Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 031 1959 Herzog RC #392 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 038 1959 hi #557 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 049 1961 Yankees #228 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 062 1962 Davis #108 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 080 1962 A/S #467 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 208 1955 (Bowman) Kiner #197 (real nice but slightly trimed) 209 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#056, 076, 106, 107, 120) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 217 1966 Semi-high lot (#492, 499, 502, 503, 508) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 222 1969 Killebrew #375 223 1969 Drysdale #400 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 22:25:14 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Scam artist From: "Ken Morganti" --- In OBC-Ramblings@y..., "James Moleta" wrote: > OK - so do we contact "Steven Smagula" (aka Mark?) & mess with him too? This > guy is so fishy, but I dont have the time to mess w/ him - does anyone else > wanna try? :-) My guess is that "Steven Smagula" and "Mark Young" are the same person. I'm not going to waste any time e-mailing any of his 'references'... although I should just to see what kind of replies I get. I can imagine getting similar looking form letters from all ten references within the same hour - what a coincidence that would be, wouldn't it?! Funny that he hasn't asked me for any of MY references, even though he's about to trade a $3000 card to a complete stranger (LOL). Right now I'm waiting for him to get prices of my trade offer from Buckett Online. I had to e-mail him again with the conditions of the cards, since I omitted them the first time. Wouldn't you know it, but almost every card I have to trade is in NM condition... and these are just my dupes, so you can imagine how nice my sets look. I'll keep everyone updated ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 20:15:11 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: Mantle and Pafko From: Neal Thomas Hi guys- I had a few spare minutes, so I'd thought I'd get into the fun with Ken. Not only will I use Ken's address, I will also use Ken's response and trade offer word for word. Think this idiot will figure it out? If not, I wonder if he will send the card to me or to Ken? Any bets on who gets this gem? Hi Mark, I'd love to trade for the Mantle! Here's a few cards I have to trade off the top of the pile I'll send you: 1952 Bowman Phil Rizzuto #52 1952 Bowman Mays #218 1953 Bowman Color Pee Wee Reese #33 1955 Topps Koufax RC #123 1955 Topps Killebrew RC #124 1957 Topps Ted Williams #1 1960 Topps Yaz RC #148 1960 Topps McCovey RC #316 1964 Topps Mantle #50 1968 Topps Mantle #280 Let me know if this is a fair offer. I look forward to hearing from ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: "Mark Young" Subject: Re: Mantle and Pafko Date: 08/18/2001 07:13pm The Mantle and Pafko are both still available, but I guess you only want the Mantle. I mainly collect individual vintage cards of star players. Give me a list of the highlights of your vintage collection. Thanks. Mark On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 18:50:44 Neal Thomas wrote: >Hi Mark- >I just got back into town--I hope the Mantle is still avialable, >since I would love to trade for it. What can I look for you in >return for the Mantle? I would also like the Pafko, but not sure I >will have enough to trade. Thanks for the email. >Neal Thomas >------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- >Originally From: "Mark Young" >Subject: Mantle and Pafko >Date: 08/14/2001 08:44am >Hi, I have a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 in good condition and a >1952 Topps #1 Andy Pafko in very good condition. Are you interested >in obtaining the card? Together, the two cards in the conditions >are in, are worth approximately $3500. I'm more willing to trade >sell. However, I prefer to trade the Griffey for an equally >card, or for cards worth at least $25. I'll also trade for sets if >you want. I have a rule I standby when trading cards, and that rule >is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $250, I will >not be the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, >both traders should agree on a date and relative time to send at the >same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned this >the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $280 in a previous >trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of references if you want >The references are: >Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if >you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to >Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to >the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your website, >please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks. >Mark Young >Get 250 color business cards for FREE! >http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ================= Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 00:20:50 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Help..friend in need of some legal advise..SOS From: KEVINM38@aol.com Hi all, I have a friend in another trade group who I consider a good friend. He has a hard life. Recently he was involved in an altercation with a neighboor..and one thing lead to another and he was arrested. I do not want to go into it to deep. But it seems that the person he had a yelling match with had friends in the police dept and have been making his life a living hell. This man is very religious and is questioning why this is happening to him. He and his wife do not make alot of money and can not defend themselves against this attack on them.They can not afford a lawyer..they make too much for state aid but not enough to hire a He needs to get some legal advise as to which way to go. Any healp would be appreciative. ================= Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 20:40:24 -0400 (EDT) To: tradncards123@angelfire.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Mantle and Pafko From: Neal Thomas Really? That's strange--probably just a coincidence as it takes top cards to trade for a Mantle like that, and those are top cards. Do you have a scan of the Mantle--I have traded with guys who have overgraded their cards a bit, and I'd like to see what I'm getting before we make such a big trade. Thanks again for the email. ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: "Mark Young" Subject: Re: Re: Mantle and Pafko Date: 08/18/2001 07:22pm I'm trading with another guy, and he has the exact same cards as you. How come???? On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 20:12:56 Neal Thomas wrote: >Hi Mark, > I'd love to trade for the Mantle! Here's a few cards I have to >trade off the top of the pile I'll send you: >1952 Bowman Phil Rizzuto #52 >1952 Bowman Mays #218 >1953 Bowman Color Pee Wee Reese #33 >1955 Topps Koufax RC #123 >1955 Topps Killebrew RC #124 >1957 Topps Ted Williams #1 >1960 Topps Yaz RC #148 >1960 Topps McCovey RC #316 >1964 Topps Mantle #50 >1968 Topps Mantle #280 >Let me know if this is a fair offer. I look forward to hearing from >------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- >Originally From: "Mark Young" >Subject: Re: Mantle and Pafko >Date: 08/18/2001 07:13pm > Hi, >The Mantle and Pafko are both still available, but I guess you only >want the Mantle. I mainly collect individual vintage cards of star >players. Give me a list of the highlights of your vintage >Thanks. Mark >On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 18:50:44 > Neal Thomas wrote: >>Hi Mark- >>I just got back into town--I hope the Mantle is still avialable, >>since I would love to trade for it. What can I look for you in >>return for the Mantle? I would also like the Pafko, but not sure I >>will have enough to trade. Thanks for the email. >>Neal Thomas >>------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- >>Originally From: "Mark Young" >>Subject: Mantle and Pafko >>Date: 08/14/2001 08:44am >>Hi, I have a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle #311 in good condition and a >>1952 Topps #1 Andy Pafko in very good condition. Are you interested >>in obtaining the card? Together, the two cards in the conditions >>are in, are worth approximately $3500. I'm more willing to trade >>sell. However, I prefer to trade the Griffey for an equally >>card, or for cards worth at least $25. I'll also trade for sets if >>you want. I have a rule I standby when trading cards, and that rule >>is when the card(s) I'm trading's combined value exceed $250, I >>not be the first one to send, and you don't have to either. Rather, >>both traders should agree on a date and relative time to send at >>same time. This way, neither one will get ripped off. I learned >>the hard way by losing Cal Ripken Jr. cards worth $280 in a >>trade to a dishonest trader. I have a list of references if you >>The references are: >>Please reply to tell me if you are interested in the cards, and if >>you are, please send me a list of the cards you are willing to >>Please don't ask me first for the cards I want, because I have to >>the cards that you have to offer first. If they are on your >>please inform me of that and give me your url again. Thanks. >>Mark Young >>Get 250 color business cards for FREE! >>http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ >Get 250 color business cards for FREE! >http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ================= Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 00:14:22 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Scam artist To: CardClctor@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Wite3@aol.com What would be really funny if the Mantle actually showed up... well not really for ken but the rest of us might chuckle ================= To: Subject: Ketchup, Canada, Baseball Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 10:23:44 -0700 From: "Diamanti" Well Guys: It has been a week since I returned from that foreign land, Canada, and it's foreign money, people, and ways. But my time in Canada was brief -- in and out twice, while the bulk of my 6 days was spent exploring northeastern Washington and hunting through antique stores, secondhand stores, and one card shop for baseball-related material. When you are looking for one category of things, you often get insights and learning from other areas.... Trent, my 14 year-old son, braved the border crossing and slept in a converted hockey arena for six nights with 70-80 other baseball enthusiasts his age. Of that group, maybe 9 were Americans. He heard so many "ayes" he started thinking all sentences ended in a question. His only other gripe against the Canucks was their scary obsession with ketchup. "Dad, they get a plate of eggs, hashbrowns, toast, and then proceed to cover IT ALL in ketchup!"Then he tells me that the giant potato chip company, Lays, makes a SPECIALKETCHUP CHIP, just for Canadians! The 95 degree heat was nothing to my son compared to these culinary horrors. Once over the border I got him to a Mexican stand for some real American food (burritos) complete with a guava Jarritos soda to wash it down. Whew, that was a close one! My alone time, while he was fending off "ayes" and gobs of the red stuff, was devoted to driving around, going to museums, eating, looking at piles ofcrap in junque stores, driving, eating, and immersing myself in the Columbia River (Lake Roosevelt) every day at 3 PM. Having lived west of the Cascades in Western Washington where the temps rarely exceed 85 and there is enough rain, mist, and fog to keep everyone's face totally moistureized all year long, I soon developed heat rash on my chest and forehead. But when the sun went down, it cooled off nicely, the bugs were at a minimum due to the extremely dry weather, and the Perseid meteor showers were in full swing from 10 PM to midnight. I spent my early nights staring out the tailgate of our Ford Explorer, listening to the Mariners and watching little streaky meteors fall through the sky. My only baseball finds were some 1955-56 Sports Illustrated magazines that had baseball material in them. The card shop I found in Colville, WA, had one vintage card -- a '52 Bowman Feller, which I already have. The guy tried to sell me an Ichiro card, but I can watch him in person or on cable, so nix to that. I saw wild turkeys, an owl, a coyote, and lots of hot cows. But I was grateful to return to the cooler side of the Cascades. Whoops! Gotta go, Mariners vs. Yankees is just starting.... Mike Diomontee ================= Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:09:22 EDT Subject: available presidents To: OBC-RAMBLINGS@yahoogroups.com From: RWP521@AOL.COM Hello All, I know a couple of guys collect these but I don't remember who. Jess at the card shop just gave them to me to pass along so don't be shy. I don't know the years but maybe you do. #12 Zachary Taylor #18 Ulysses S. Grant Take care. ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #010....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:58:19 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-Nine bidders, After nine days of exhilarating modular-nine auctions, we have finally turn the corner and the finish-line is within our grasp. Day #10 is upon us!!! Four teams are left which we will pare-down to two by night fall. As for your host, I'm stumbling towards the finish-line, as "time" is once again becoming a precious commodity. Here are the Mod-9 games for today: TODAY's Game #001 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/20/2001): Milwaukee vs Chicago Cubs (game time: 5:05 ET) TODAY's Game #002 MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/20/2001): Cleveland vs Oakland (game time: 10:05 ET) If the either game is postponed then we use: 1. NY Yankees vs Texas or/and 2. Chicago WS vs Kansas City or/and 3. Boston vs Anaheim Here are the bidders!!! 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers 002: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 003: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 004: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 005: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 006: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 007: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles 009: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan Following Lots were claimed: 004 1957 Tipton Special of 4 (079,115,243,259) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 034 1959 Kubek #505 (writing on the front) 038 1959 hi #557 049 1961 Yankees #228 061 1962 Powell RC #099 064 1962 Ruth #136 080 1962 A/S #467 091 1963 F Robinson #400 (writing on the front) 099 1965 Stengel #187 100 1965 Spahn #205 108 1966 Yastrzemski #070 135 1967 Aaron #250 155 1968 Aaron A/S #370 187 1967 McCormick #086B (the Not Traded version) 189 T206 Downey (*****) really really tipton 190 T206 Fromme (*****) really really tipton 206 1961 Lou Gehrig #405 (*****) 209 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#056, 076, 106, 107, 120) 217 1966 Semi-high lot (#492, 499, 502, 503, 508) 208 1955 (Bowman) Kiner #197 (real nice but slightly trimed) 222 1969 Killebrew #375 Following Lots are Available - Exclusively to Today's High Bidders: Lot# YR DESC. 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 030 1959 Cepeda #390 031 1959 Herzog #392 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 094 1964 McCarver #429 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 117 1966 Morgan #195 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 223 1969 Drysdale #400 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:37:11 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: [Fwd: trader reference] From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...more toying with Mr Young. I sent this message and BCC'd all ten addresses on the "reference" list. One of them (einsteinli1976@excite.com) has already failed. I didn't mention the card he is "offering", and I threw out a net to catch more baloney. Let's see what I get. Thanx...Rick Svetecz -------- Original Message -------- Subject: trader reference Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:16:46 -0500 From: Rick & Deb Reply-To: debrick@onemain.com Organization: http://www.mypage.onemain.com/debrick/favorite.htm To: debrick@onemain.com Dear card trader, I was contacted by Mark Young at tradncards123@angelfire.com with a trade offer. He listed you as a reference. I am VERY interested in the card he is offering, but I've never traded with him before. Also, he hasn't mentioned how he found out that I want the card. Please describe your past dealings with Mark Young, including details about the cards traded, and let me know if I should trust him. Thank you, Rick ================= Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:09:08 EDT Subject: Website complaint To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, jgreco@us.imshealth.com From: cardclctor@aol.com Hi gang, I'm usually not one to complain, but I visited the website this afternoon for the first time in a while. Usually, I click on the link to go to the directory or message boards right away and don't let the home page load. Today however, I delayed long enough to let the images load and was shocked at what I saw... the OBC logo with the dates 1991 and 2001 in each corner. Scrawled across the bottom were the words "Celebrating 10 Years of Excellence!" Something is definitely wrong here. Some people in the group have yet to celebrate excellence... even a VG card would look out of place in their binders. In fact, it was only after joining OBC that I myself STOPPED celebrating excellence. Is there something we can do here? How about "Celebrating 10 Years of Fair-ness!" or "Celebrating 10 Years of Almost Very Good-ness!" "Celebrating 10 Years of Wrinkled Cardboard" has some appeal to me also. ...Maybe we can adopt a McDonald's style trademark like "Over 4,253,654 1/2 Cards Traded"? or how about "Celebrating 10 Years Without a Mint Card"? or "Ten Years of Trading Cards Like 10-Year Olds". I just don't know where this 'excellence' is coming from. :-) Now before whoever is working very hard at maintaining the website jumps down my throat - I'm kidding. I have a little too much time on my hands at the moment. I'd better start hitting wantlists. TAYL, Ken M ================= Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:10:50 EDT Subject: ebay question To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jdelott@aol.com Is there a consensus as to the best day or time to start an auction on ebay? Is having an auction end on a holiday a good or bad idea? ================= To: jdelott@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay question Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:25:40 From: "Al Cummings" I assume you mean good for you. I find the most bidding goes on after work until 9-10 pm EST. so ending then shows the most "late" bidders what you have. A lot of people wait until 2-6 hours before the end of the auction to bid. Also ending on Friday or Saturday aids the bids, and then you can work the mail and all on Monday. Holidays can vary, busy or dead. I think it depends on what you are selling. Big Al in Seattle >From: jdelott@aol.com >To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] ebay question >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:10:50 EDT >Is there a consensus as to the best day or time to start an auction on >Is having an auction end on a holiday a good or bad idea? >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: Subject: Ebay and all that jazz Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:30:27 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" I know this is the wrong group to ask, but does anyone have experience with slabbed cards? We want to build a small cabin on the island that puts one of us in the hospital every year, and we need $$$. (Yes, I'll make allowance for a triage room, Mike!) Where will the money come from you might ask? I have a few old hockey cards (early '60's) that came out of a pack and into a box way back when...some of them are beauties, as nice as you will see. I don't have a slabbed card in my collection, and harbor no ambitions to ever have one. But I would like to cash in on the craze to finance the cabin. Rather than annoy the whole group, I'll just ask if anyone who knows about these things could contact me. I have about 20 questions. As for Ebay, I talked to Tiger Dave on the phone this morning. He has just about packed it in at Ebay, has taken all his stuff to Yahoo. He says the market for our kind of stuff has been really slow. Dave is careful when he lists his "good stuff," preferring to end on a Sunday late afternoon or early evening....by 10pm Eastern, 7pm out left. I asked him about long weekends, and he said not in the summer. He likes Yahoo because they don't take a percentage of the selling price like Ebay does, and they charge less to list. I guess if you deal in volume like he does, it makes a big difference. By the looks of things, items start at a higher price on Yahoo than they tend to on Ebay as well....it is more of a "For Sale" place than an auction. Dave's soundest advice was to put up a picture....he said "no picture, no sale." I trust his judgement...he's pretty good at what he does. I asked Dave about slabbed cards, and he just about choked...he has no use for them. ================= To: Subject: Welcome to two HOM Members Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:59:17 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" Neal Thomas has chosen Popeye, a very worthy candidate. Bob Schaub has selected Roy McMillan, the man with a Golden Glove. Scans have been sent to Dan to add to the HOM site when he gets a chance. In the meantime, somebody out there has one of those alphabetical lists for cards issued. Forgive me for not remembering who. But if you wouldn't mind sending a list of Zimmer's issues to Neal at nthomas@pol.net and McMillan's to Bob at bobs7714@aol.com then both of them can get their new binders ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Website complaint Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:29:17 -0600 From: "Todd Knowles" How about "10 years of Tiptonness"? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Website complaint > Hi gang, > I'm usually not one to complain, but I visited the website this > for the first time in a while. Usually, I click on the link to go to > directory or message boards right away and don't let the home page > Today however, I delayed long enough to let the images load and was > at what I saw... the OBC logo with the dates 1991 and 2001 in each > Scrawled across the bottom were the words "Celebrating 10 Years of > Excellence!" Something is definitely wrong here. Some people in the > have yet to celebrate excellence... even a VG card would look out of place in > their binders. In fact, it was only after joining OBC that I myself > celebrating excellence. Is there something we can do here? How about > "Celebrating 10 Years of Fair-ness!" or "Celebrating 10 Years of Almost Very > Good-ness!" "Celebrating 10 Years of Wrinkled Cardboard" has some appeal to > me also. ...Maybe we can adopt a McDonald's style trademark like > 4,253,654 1/2 Cards Traded"? or how about "Celebrating 10 Years Without a > Mint Card"? or "Ten Years of Trading Cards Like 10-Year Olds". I just don't > know where this 'excellence' is coming from. :-) Now before whoever > working very hard at maintaining the website jumps down my throat - > kidding. I have a little too much time on my hands at the moment. I'd better > start hitting wantlists. TAYL, > Ken M > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 00:28:19 EDT Subject: Fwd: old baseball card To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com From: "Pamela Durazo" To: Subject: old baseball card Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:37:52 -0500 I am looking for a baseball card for ozzie west, he once played for the cincinnati reds and also forthe baltimore orioles, any information you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Pam Durazo e-mail PDurazo@msn.com ================= To: Subject: e-trouble Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:26:30 -0700 From: "yaz" Once again I'm having trouble with my internet service. This time I'm unable to receive my email. If you read this apparently I can still send it. Greg (yaz) ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: Trivia Time Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:23:00 -0400 From: "Rick Redpath" Yesterday I got a few more of those pesky 1959 low number cards in the mail, and one of them was Dick Schofield. Wow that guy looks young, I thought, as I looked at that picture. Then I turned it over and realized he had made his major league debut 6 years earlier! And he first appeared on a baseball card in 1954, as a perky little 19 year old. He REALLY looks young on that So this got me wondering, is he the youngest Big Leaguer to appear on a major issue baseball card set? (No). Okay, then, who is/was? This is open to some interpretation of course, but it must be somebody who was already in the Majors during the year the card was issued, not one of these new-fangled Draft Pick cards of kids in Junior High School uniforms. And let's limit it to the 20th century, since my knowledge of cards from the 1800s is limited. I might not even have the correct answer, but that never stopped me Who was the youngest major league player to appear on a (well known) baseball card??? Anybody? - Rick ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 10...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular Nine Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:37:57 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of last night's Mod-9 game (Milwaukee vs Cubs), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is.... "5" -AND- after tabulating the results of last night's "2nd" Mod-9 game (Cleveland vs Oakland), the MODULAR-NINE" number of the day is........."8" Will the following bidders: 005: Griffin, Redpath, Bama, Weihe, Lindholme, Spike, 008: Rainsley, KenM, Zentkovich, Vrechek, Talbot, Knowles Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference). But that is not all! Since we are now in ROUND 2, please also claim a lot for an OBCer of your choice (listing a 2nd are 3rd preference as Here is my most up-to-date Available Lists: Lot# YR DESC. 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 031 1959 Herzog #392 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 114 1966 Killebrew #120 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 223 1969 Drysdale #400 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: DAY #011....Iggy's 3rd-year anniversary Modular-Nine Auction... Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:05:04 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-Nine bidders, Here we are ready to start Day #11 and I'm trying hard not to get too emotional in front of yuz all. But alas, the reality, that this is the final day of my Modular-Nine auction is hitting both myself and the staff pretty hard. Soon all that will be left are the memories (plus a bunch of packages to mail...). I'd like to take a moment and thank all the bidders, who hopefully, will take the concept learned in this auction and use it for the betterment of mankind (as opposed to using it as a weapon of mass-confusion). May the "Modular-Nine" Force guide you! For those who still need a Modular fix, my new book will soon be at an online bookstore near you. "How To Find Your Soul-Mate Using Modular-Nine" - I will detail, step by step, how to convert birth dates into Mod-9 numbers, and then discover which number(s) are compatible with yours. Should be a real eye-opener, for sure! Only two teams are left, which if you look at the bidder list closely, is sort'a like David vs Goliath. My only dilemma, is whether to declare Team ONE the loser now, or wait until it's official? Here is the FINAL Mod-9 game: TODAY's MOD-9 Number of the Day (8/21/2001): NY Yankees vs Texas (game time: 8:05 ET) If the either game is postponed then we use: 1. NY Yankees vs Texas or/and 2. NY Yankees vs Texas or/and 3. Cleveland vs Oakland Here are the bidders!!! 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers 002: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 003: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 004: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 005: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 006: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 007: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 008: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan 009: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan Following Lots were claimed: 006 1958 Dodgers TC #072 035 1959 hi #554 (*****) 094 1964 McCarver #429 107 1965 Yankees TC #513 (writing on the back) 109 1966 Yastrzemski #070 114 1966 Killebrew #120 117 1966 Morgan #195 179 1961 Fox MVP #477 Here is my most up-to-date Available Lists: Lot# YR DESC. 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 011 1958 Larsen #161 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 017 1958 Newcombe #340 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 031 1959 Herzog #392 036 1959 hi #555 037 1959 hi #568 040 1960 Hodges #295 041 1960 Colavito #400 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 047 1961 Killebrew #080 (slightly trimmed) 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 065 1962 Ruth #142 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 075 1962 Aparicio #325 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 082 1963 LL #010 083 1963 Kaline #025 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 185 1964 Piniella RC #167 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 195 1966 hi# 528 (*****) 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 202 1954 (Bowman) Joe Adcock #096 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 223 1969 Drysdale #400 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:44:03 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: [Fwd: Re: trader reference] From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...more Mark Young stuff. Here's reply #1 from one of the "references"...the guy in James' e-mail. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: trader reference Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 05:09:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Smagula To: debrick@onemain.com I can only tell you one thing Rick, he is very, very trustworthy. I've traded more than ten times with him. Such trades included a 1990 Leaf Thomas Rookie Card, a 1954 Aaron Rookie(in poor condition, or else I couldn't afford it), a 1975 Yount Rookie Card, and a 1997 CC Gold Signature Mike Piazza. He even has a 1952 Mickey Mantle card he sent me to look at, to see what condition I thought it was in, I agreed on good condition, and tried to work out a trade for it, but didn't have enough cards. He even offered me a discount of $700 from the $2700, down to $2000, because we have a great trading friendship together. He told me I'm his closest trading buddy. I live in New York, which is not far from New Jersey, where he lives. We met couple of times, and he looked like an honest person. I've even handled some trades for him as the third party man through whom Mark and the other trader both sent to. I did that three times, and one time the other person cards didn't come. Mark was sooo relieved, because the card he sent was a 1989 Ken Griffey Jr. UD Rookie Card. Actually, I might have told him about you wanting the cards. I always surf the net to see what people want, and probably I ran into your site, and seeing that you had a wantlist, and that I had none of the cards you wanted, I thought Mark probably did, because he has an abundance of fantastic vintage and modern cards. He usually doesn't have THAT much time to surf around to find what other people want, so I sometimes help him. I can give you some other references if you want. I know Aimee(alts16@yahoo.com) has dealed with him as well. Thanks for asking, and trust me, you'll have a great time trading with him. Also, can you tell me the card he offered you? Thanks. Steven Smagula --- Rick & Deb wrote: > Dear card trader, > I was contacted by Mark Young at > tradncards123@angelfire.com with a trade > offer. He listed you as a reference. > I am VERY interested in the card he is offering, > but I've never traded with > him before. Also, he hasn't mentioned how he found > out that I want the card. > Please describe your past dealings with Mark > Young, including details about > the cards traded, and let me know if I should trust > him. > Thank you, Rick Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:46:17 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: [Fwd: Re: trader reference] From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...reply #2 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: trader reference Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 05:14:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Aimee Tunnacliffe To: debrick@onemain.com He's trustworthy. I had two trades with him, one for a 1983 Topps Ripken, and a 1985 McGwire Card. I gave him a 1982 Topps Traded Ripken for the McGwire, and I forgot the card I gave him for the Ripken. Anyway, he's trustworthy, and you can therefore trust him. See you, --- Rick & Deb wrote: > Dear card trader, > I was contacted by Mark Young at > tradncards123@angelfire.com with a trade > offer. He listed you as a reference. > I am VERY interested in the card he is offering, > but I've never traded with > him before. Also, he hasn't mentioned how he found > out that I want the card. > Please describe your past dealings with Mark > Young, including details about > the cards traded, and let me know if I should trust > him. > Thank you, Rick Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Re: trader reference] Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:44:42 -0500 From: "tim newcomb" The other guy (S. Smagula) was classic fabrication from start to finish, but this person sounds too lame and stupid to be made up! Is it possible Mark has made one on-the-level trade in his worthless existence? ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick & Deb To: 0ramblings Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:46 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Re: trader reference] > OBC Friends...reply #2 > Thanx...Rick > OBC-OK!! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: trader reference > Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 05:14:09 -0700 (PDT) > From: Aimee Tunnacliffe > To: debrick@onemain.com > He's trustworthy. I had two trades with him, one for a > 1983 Topps Ripken, and a 1985 McGwire Card. I gave him > a 1982 Topps Traded Ripken for the McGwire, and I > forgot the card I gave him for the Ripken. Anyway, > he's trustworthy, and you can therefore trust him. > See you, > Aimee > --- Rick & Deb wrote: > > Dear card trader, > > I was contacted by Mark Young at > > tradncards123@angelfire.com with a trade > > offer. He listed you as a reference. > > I am VERY interested in the card he is offering, > > but I've never traded with > > him before. Also, he hasn't mentioned how he found > > out that I want the card. > > Please describe your past dealings with Mark > > Young, including details about > > the cards traded, and let me know if I should trust > > him. > > Thank you, Rick > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: super bowl program and '74 sports pages Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:22:35 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" I was cleaning out the attic, and I found a program from the '86 super bowl. If you want it, let me know. Also, I have the sports section the washington (dc) post for almost every day from about sept 1 1974 to the end of october. Again, if you would like any of them, let me know. As soon as I can clean up my desk, I will have a bunch of actual *cards* to put up grabs too! ================= Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:45:25 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Frank "The Original" Thomas From: Neal Thomas Hi guys- I recently picked up a great picture of OBC’s own Frank Thomas ( The Original) and I sent it to Frank to have it signed) You see, I found a card off Frank’s lists a few months ago, and he offered to sign anything I wanted in the future. I finally took him up on his offer and he personalized the autograph to my sons—a great piece that I hope they will cherish forever. Frank also knows that his lists are getting very tough to hit—only star cards and high number 50’s left, as far as I can tell. Now for something a bit non-OBC, but since Frank asked me, I wanted to see if anyone can help. Frank got a box of 2001 Topps and 2001 Heritage from a fan of his, and he has started working on these sets. He has a wantlist that I will transpose to my computer (he sent it written on a piece of paper), so it may take me a day or two. In the meantime, if anyone is interested in these lists, I can form an email group and maybe we can knock off these sets (or at least make some damage). Frank has always been great—he always sends a thank you and a hand- written note as well, and seems genuinely touched by the cards he gets. Anyway, if anyone wants to look at these lists, let me know. ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: excellence Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:11:36 -0500 From: "George Vrechek" I am in agreement regarding Ken M's alert observation regarding "10 years of excellence" on the website. It seemed like a harmless statement but it undermines the principles for which we have fought. "10 years of bent cards" sounds excellent to me. George Vrechek ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:20:55 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-thanks@yahoogroups.com, obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: belated thanks!? & many AVAILABLES!! From: Jerry Coker Sorry for the cross post. But got availables (see below). I can't remember if I sent thanks to the following gentlemen. If not, I sincerely apologise!: Bob D'Angelo - *UV* (2) envelopes full of 82, 83, and 85 Topps, including Sid Monge (the pitcher that that gave up Tony Gwynn's first hit ;) Thanks Steve Carter - (9) 60's, including Braves Coaches! Thank you Steve!! Kent Koto - (3) 55 Bowman, a set I would have thought impossible, till I found OBC! Thank you Kent!! Jeff Sinclair - (3) 78's, including the ChiSox Team card (gotta' love those 70's uniforms ;) Thank you Jeff!! Spike Glidden - a 52 Topps Max Lanier, a 53 Bowman Color Hank Sauer, a 53 Topps Joe Coleman, a 54 Topps Dick Cole, (2) 55 Bowman, a 55 Topps Gus Triandos, a 56 Sammy White, (3) 59's, including Harvey Haddix, (5) 60's, inlcuding Carl Willey (a Brave), a 61 Dick Schofield, (7) 62's, including hi #'s, a 65 hi #, and a 75 Ken Griffey...WOW! Thank you Spike!! Thanks OBC!!! First priority will go to those that I owe, but don't be shy! 57 Topps: 6, 8, 22, 86, 116, 118, 126, 134, 139, 144, 160, 167, 186, 195, 223, 227, 235, 241, 249, 256, 357, 367 58 Topps: 279, 469 59 Topps: 125, 389, 392 60 Topps: 38 61 Topps: 5, 13, 31, 33, 39, 46, 50, 54, 55, 60, 69, 72, 73, 74, 82, 95, 131, 144, 145, 163, 165, 195, 267, 271 62 Topps: 66, 78, 122 64 Topps: 111 66 Topps: 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10-14, 16-18, 20, 21, 24-29, 31, 32, 34, 35, 37, 38-43, 45-49, 51-58, 60-69, 71, 73, 74, 77-79, 81-83, 85, 87-90, 93, 95-99, 102-109, 111, 112, 114-116, 118-121, 123, 124, 128-136, 138-143, 145-150, 152, 154, 155, 158, 159, 161, 162, 164-171, 173-175, 178, 180, 182, 185-194, 197, 198, 202-204, 206-209, 211, 213, 214, 228, 229, 231, 234-240, 242-244, 248, 252, 253, 256, 257, 260, 262, 264, 265, 267, 268, 269, 270, 273-275, 277, 278, 280, 281, 286, 287, 289, 290, 294, 298, 302-304, 308, 312, 314, 315, 318, 321, 322, 324, 325, 327, 333-336, 341, 344, 349, 351-353, 362, 367-370, 377-379, 382, 383, 387, 395, 401, 403, 404, 406, 409, 418, 421, 425, 426, 429, 442 67 Topps: 1, 2, 14, 15, 17-19, 24, 29, 31-33, 38, 42, 46, 47, 51-53, 56-59, 61, 62, 66, 67, 74-77, 80-83, 87, 89-91, 94, 95, 101, 102, 104, 106, 108, 109, 122, 123, 127, 129 133, 134, 138, 141, 144-146, 151, 152, 155, 157, 161, 162, 164, 171, 179, 185, 191-197, 199, 201, 202, 204-209, 211, 213, 214, 218, 227, 229, 231, 246, 248, 249, 251, 253, 256, 261, 270, 271, 274-279, 281, 282, 284, 286, 288, 290, 295, 310, 312, 314, 317, 319, 327, 328, 332, 339, 344, 347, 350, 361, 367, 370, 372, 373, 378, 382, 384, 402, 405, 411, 413, 416, 424, 431, 439, 441, 442, 444, 517, 524 69 Topps: 7, 11, 14, 19, 26, 44, 53, 57, 58, 64, 78, 79, 88, 89, 97, 118, 177, 219, 236, 251, 316, 329, 333, 337, 373, 376, 384, 396, 439, 441, 448, 463, 469, 487, 492, 514, 526, 530 563, 635 Jerry Coker Computer Network Support Career Services Center University of Georgia ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:01:18 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: [Fwd: Re: trader reference] From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...reply #3 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: trader reference Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bo Wang To: debrick@onemain.com Yes, he's trustworthy. I traded him some griffeys for some nolan ryans. --- Rick & Deb wrote: > Dear card trader, > I was contacted by Mark Young at > tradncards123@angelfire.com with a trade > offer. He listed you as a reference. > I am VERY interested in the card he is offering, > but I've never traded with > him before. Also, he hasn't mentioned how he found > out that I want the card. > Please describe your past dealings with Mark > Young, including details about > the cards traded, and let me know if I should trust > him. > Thank you, Rick Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:07:47 -0500 To: George Vrechek Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] excellence From: Rick & Deb OBC Friends...how 'bout "10 Years of Swappin'"? ..or.."10 Years of (adjective) Swappin'"?...Trading?..Fair Trading...Unfair..? Thanx...Rick Svetecz > George Vrechek wrote: > I am in agreement regarding Ken M's alert observation regarding "10 years of excellence" on the > website. It seemed like a harmless statement but it undermines the principles for which we have > fought. "10 years of bent cards" sounds excellent to me. > George Vrechek > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:57:23 EDT Subject: Help Wanted: Autographed Larry Walker baseball... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, TradingJim@aol.com From: XTrJmx@aol.com Hi all... My wife's best friend is looking for a birthday present for her dad. He's a baseball fanatic and recently went on one of those amazing "baseball holidays" where they hit a bunch of parks over five days. His favorite current ballplayer is Larry Walker so Coors Field was a special treat for him. While he was there, Walker added one more reason to like him -- he walked over and spent about 15 minutes signing for a bunch of kids who had all kinds of physical challenges. That really touched my friend's dad. Anyway, he has a b'day coming up on Sept. 3 and my friend would like to get an autographed baseball of Larry Walker for her dad. I've tried e-bay, but I'm not very certain about the authenticity of most anything on there. If any of you have suggestions/contacts or, better yet, a ball (!!) available, please drop me a note! Take care and thanks a bunch, guys!! ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: I need a "pre-hero" Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 00:40:41 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" it has happened again! I got down to my last '58 (Colovito #368, just in case you have a spare) and I checked the set and found a missing common! :( Why does this always happen? Maybe they are all in sock drawers somewhere. I need #415 (B.Boman according to the checklist) So, if you want to be a here is your chance! :) Thanks for looking. Anyone need a '67 "Richie" "don't call me 'dick'" Allen #450? ================= Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 09:33:07 EDT Subject: A few cards available To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: jocraig@aol.com As a result of a couple of recent e-Bay auctions I have a few extra cards. Let me know if you want/need any of them. FCFS. 1954 Bowman - 37 (fair), 72 (vg), 104 (good) 1962 Topps - All Orioles - I needed Jerry Adair!! 6 (vg), 64 (vg), 134 (g/vg), 165 (g), 189 (vg/ex), 355 (vg), 442 (g), 488 (vg) ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: 2 pre-heros :) ! Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:29:02 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" Brock Hattox and Neal Thomas have already taken care of mister Bowman, '58 #415. Thanks to both of them and to the rest of you guys...Now I need my '58 hero :) Availables coming shortly ! finally! ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: come and get 'em! Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:25:52 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" FCFS! Thanks, 1972 49 (mays) 530 531 539 551 554 576 578 580 584 585 603 636 642 643 1971 713 (pilots team) 1970 fleer ws #15 (1918) #16 (1919) 1969 topps football 4-in-1 stamps, 18 all separated 1969 "Great Rookies of Pro Basketball" Random house, hard cover, 172 pages 1969 #166 (kaline ws game 5) 1969 opc deckle edge yaz 1967 #450 (allen) 1962 498 548 551 1961 45 280 458 497 518 1958 477 (skowron as) 1954 Bowman (I think) #80 (logan) - lots of drawing on the front of this 1951 redback #23 (boone) ================= Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 18:46:30 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Completed Set! From: larry.tipton@netzero.net I picked up a 1960 Fleer Lou Gehrig card on ebay for $4.25 plus $1 shipping, and it arrived today. This was the last card I needed for this set, and it is the first set I have completed since I finished the 1970 Topps set at the National in Atlanta a couple of years ago. On the home front my wife is visiting my sister Pamm (her best friend) in Las Vegas for three weeks. I hope Pamm will get some understanding of what has been going on. Thanks for all your prayers and support. ================= To: "Ramblings" Subject: The Youngest Guys on Cards Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:28:03 -0400 From: "Rick Redpath" Who was the youngest major league player to appear on a (well known) baseball card? I did say that he (that's a hint, it's a "he") had to be an active Big Leaguer during the year the card was issued. So that rules out the creative answer submitted by employees of Rainsley-Schaub International Private Eyes, Inc. Their detective work came up with Pete Rose Jr. who appeared on a card in 1982 with his Father. I've never seen the card but I bet Pete Junior looks about 13 on it, because, at the time, he was 13... So, sorry crime stoppers, we gotta go with another answer. Joe Nuxhall was only 16 when he first appeared in the Majors, but that was during the mid-1940s when nobody was making baseball cards. Too bad for Joe or he would have been our winner. Robin Yount, Al Kaline, Sandy Koufax, Andruw Jones, Junior Griffey and a host of others were 19 when their first cards came out. But there were a few younger ones. 1. Well known player, not so well known card: Bob Feller, 1936 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums. Feller was 17 in 1936, the year he first played in the Bigs and that's when his first card appeared too. I've never seen one of these cards but I bet Brett Domue has, so maybe he can back me up... 2. Not so well known player, well known card company: Frank Leja, 1954 Topps #175. Frank was 18 years old at the beginning of the season and he just barely beat out a couple of other 18 year olds for the honor of youngest guy on a Topps card (I think...). Some of the others are: Jim Derrington (who?) 1958 Topps #129; Ed Kranepool, 1963 Topps #228; Ed Kirkpatrick, 1963 Topps #386 ; Joey Jay, 1954 Topps #141; and Harmon Killebrew, 1955 Topps #124. Both of the Eds were on floating heads Rookie cards, so those aren't quite as impressive as the 50's cards that Frank, Jim and Joey had to themselves. Anybody with a more correct answer is welcome to correct me :-) Otherwise look for a run on Frank Leja Rookie cards once the word gets out... - Rick ================= To: "'OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com'" Subject: Day 11...WINNERS.... in Iggy's 3rd-year Anniversary Modular-Nine Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:29:24 -0400 From: "Gonzalez, Ignacio Alberto" Hello Modular-9 Bidders, After tabulating the results of Tuesday night's FINAL Mod-9 game (New York vs Texas), the "MODULAR-NINE" number of the day was.... "5" Will the following bidders: 005: Reed, Yaz, Paris, Cummings, Newcomb, McGowan -AND- since we have to mercifully end the auction: 001: Geno, Saxton, Joshua, R.Robinson, K.Summers Please come forward and claim your lot (if possible, list a 2nd and 3rd preference). But that is not all! Since we are now in ROUND 2, please also claim a lot for an OBCer of your choice (listing a 2nd are 3rd preference as I apologize for the delay in getting this out! But work became a bit hectic -- luckily things are back to normal. My lofty goal, is to sort and package all the cards over the weekend. Hopefully, they will go out Monday or Tuesday. Wish me luck! Here is my most up-to-date Available Lists: Lot# YR DESC. 007 1958 Zimmer #077 009 1958 Bunning #115 010 1958 Indians TC #158 013 1958 Throneberry RC #175 (*****) 015 1958 Harridge/Giles #300 016 1958 Labine #305 018 1958 Battey #364 019 1958 Battey #364 (*****) 020 1958 Tigers #397 021 1958 Fox A/S #479 024 1958 Aparicio A/S #483 026 1958 Spahn A/S #494 (*****) 027 1959 Fox #030 (writing on the front) 031 1959 Herzog #392 037 1959 hi #568 044 1960 hi #556 046 1961 Groat #001 053 1961 Davis RC #506 054 1962 White #014 056 1962 Minoso #028 (writing on the front) 057 1962 Tresh RC #031 (writing on front) 060 1962 Blanchard #093 (writing on front) 061 1962 Powell RC #099 062 1962 Davis #108 066 1962 McCarver #167 069 1962 WS #233 070 1962 WS #236 071 1962 WS #237 072 1962 Maris #313 WS 076 1962 Mazeroski #353 078 1962 Wynn #385 079 1962 Cash #466 082 1963 LL #010 084 1963 Kaline #025 085 1963 Stengel #043 086 1963 Ashburn #135 087 1963 Perry #169 088 1963 Perry #169 (miscut) 092 1964 Lolich RC #128 095 1965 Mays LL #006 096 1965 Mays LL #006 (writing on the back) 097 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 098 1965 Maris #155 (*****) 101 1965 Gibson #320 (*****) 103 1965 Colavito #380 (*****) 105 1965 Fox #485 (writing on the back) 106 1965 Fox #485 110 1966 Perez #072 111 1966 Aparicio #090 113 1966 Banks #110 115 1966 Cepeda #132 116 1966 Colavito #150 (*****) 118 1966 Mays LL #217 120 1966 Kaline #410 122 1967 Champs #001 123 1967 Ford #005 (*****) trimmed 124 1967 Cepeda #020 126 1967 Mantle CL #103 (unmarked) 127 1967 Mantle CL #103 (marked) 128 1967 Yankees TC #131 129 1967 World Series cards #151 & #152 130 1967 Mathews #166 132 1967 LL #235 (*****) 133 1967 Koufax LL #236 (*****) 134 1967 LL #243 136 1967 Conigliaro #280 (miscut) 138 1967 Hunter #369 140 1967 B Robinson CL #531 & Clemente CL #361 141 1968 LL #004 142 1968 LL #009 143 1968 B Robinson #020 144 1968 Billy Williams #037 146 1968 Perry #082 147 1968 Stargell #086 148 1968 Colavito #099 149 1968 Sutton #103 (*****) 150 1968 Perez #130 151 1968 Morgan #144 152 1968 Oliva #165 153 1968 Santo #235 (******) 154 1968 Stargell #290 156 1969 Yastrzemski #130 158 1969 Killebrew #375 (*****) 159 1969 Stargell #545 161 1969 McCovey/Marichal #572 163 1970 Yaz #010 165 1970 Jackson A/S #459 166 small group of 1970 cards (3rd and 4th series, real nice but have a slight pen mark on the back side) 167 1971 Marichal #325 170 Topps football card #080 Martinkovic Year Unkown (at least to me....) 171 1960 Wynn #001 172 1960 Mays/Rigney #007 173 1960 Kaline #050 174 1960 Kaline #050 176 1960 Maris #377 (*****) 177 1960 WS lot (#'s 385, 388, 389) (*****) 178 1961 LL Lot (#'s 046, 048, 050) ink stain on front 181 1964 LL Lot (#'s 003, 007, 011) (*****) 182 1964 #011 Aaron LL 183 1964 Mathews #035 184 1964 John RC #146 186 1964 LaRussa RC #244 188 1969 Mantle CL #412 (unmarked) 191 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #023,055,069,132) (*****) 192 1953 (Bowman Color lot) #022, 074, 083 (*****) 193 1964 (Giants) Clemente #011 194 1964 (Giants) F Robinson #029 196 1966 hi# 559 198 1966 hi# 568 199 1966 hi# 585 (*****) 203 1955 Hank Sauer #045 (slight writing on the front) 205 1957 Team Lot (114,161,183,214,251) (*****) 207 1961 Felipe Alou #565 (high number) 210 1955 Bowman Tipton Lot (#182, 190, 220, 222) 211 1960 Fleer Lot (#011, 013, 030, 031) 212 1960 Fleer Lot (#039, 059, 068, 074) 213 1961 Fleer Lot (#047, 072, 082) 214 1963 Semi-high #463 215 1966 Roy White RC #234 (trimed) 216 1966 Semi-high Lot (#449, 473, 477, 479, 492) 218 1969 Ernie Banks #020 219 1969 Lou Brock #035 220 1969 Nettles w/loop #099 221 1969 Gibson #200 (*****) 223 1969 Drysdale #400 225 1969 Rose A/S #424 + Bench A/S #430 226 1969 Gaylord Perry #485 227 1970 Fleer World Series (blue back) lot of 10 228 1971 Sparky Lyle SP #649 (*****) 229 1974 Aaron #001 230 1975 Aaron #660 (*****) (*****) denotes true tipton -Lovely Day, Iggy... ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: hero wanted Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:02:49 From: "Al Cummings" In my summer wipe out 3 lists quest I have bogged down. I need a '70 "common". Of course it's a high number, but lists for $5 in ex. Can I find one for any price? NOOOO. If you happen to have a #715 Lolich laying around ... my conditions are can I> 1. read the number and 2. Tell what card it is. Thanks folks Big Al in Seattle Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: Subject: See you in two weeks Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 06:44:26 -0700 From: "Geno Wagner" Fellas -- I'm heading off to Spain and Italy for two weeks to go fly some of their airplanes, with a stop at Pax River, MD to fly the F-18, F-14, and a bunch ofhelicopters. It should be a lot of fun, although I will be extremely busy. Anyway, if you are looking for me, I'll be back around Sep 9th. Hopefully the Cubbies will have clawed their way back into the race be then - how disappointing to see them slide (the Twinkies too) after leading all year... Take Care, Geno ================= Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] See you in two weeks Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:13:38 -0400 To: "OBC Ramblings" From: Matthew Glidden Ditto on this one, as I'm taking off to Maine until next Wednesday. I may have spotty email access, but I'm assuming not. See you in a while! OBC: Because every card is "one of one" ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:33:52 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Re: trader reference] To: debrick@onemain.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Sweendoger@aol.com What are the odds that all three references would use the word "trustworthy" in their first sentance?? In a message dated 8/22/01 11:13:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, debrick@onemain.com writes: > Subj: [OBC-Ramblings] [Fwd: Re: trader reference] > Date: 8/22/01 11:13:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time > From: debrick@onemain.com (Rick & Deb) > Reply-to: debrick@onemain.com > To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (0ramblings) > OBC Friends...reply #3 > Thanx...Rick > OBC-OK! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: trader reference > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:00:40 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bo Wang > To: debrick@onemain.com > Yes, he's trustworthy. I traded him some griffeys for > some nolan ryans. > --- Rick & Deb wrote: > > Dear card trader, > > I was contacted by Mark Young at > > tradncards123@angelfire.com with a trade > > offer. He listed you as a reference. > > I am VERY interested in the card he is offering, > > but I've never traded with > > him before. Also, he hasn't mentioned how he found > > out that I want the card. > > Please describe your past dealings with Mark > > Young, including details about > > the cards traded, and let me know if I should trust > > him. > > Thank you, Rick ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:25:06 EDT Subject: Hank Sauer To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com All - My good friend and fellow OBCer emailed me this morning with the "Rick - saw this morning on the ESPN baseball page that Hank Sauer had passed away. Remember meeting him at Lefty's a few years back at the SABR meeting? It's tough to see time march on and claim these guys.... I do remember that wonderful day we spent at "Lefty O'Doul's" in a SABR meeting and as I recall Hank was very gracious and spoke to us about baseball for a long time. As I understand from the local reports Hank loved family first and golf second and he died on the first tee of a local golf course after having a heart attack. Many of his friends that were interviewed said that was the way he would have wanted to go. I am glad that Geordie and I can share the memory of meeting Hank in person and I sincerely thank Geordie for reminding me of that day and for thinking enough to email me about Hank's passing. THANKS Geordie! Rest well Hank we will miss you! Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 18:43:36 EDT Subject: Neal Thomas Number 1! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, OBC-Thanks@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com All - I have been in first place (until now) for at least the last month in the AOL fantasy league Mike Hair got me involved in. Today I tip my hat to Neal Thomas who currently holds the first place spot and is around a 1000 points ahead of me and I am in second! How did you do that Neal? I realize you make more moves than Tony LaRussa and it works better for you, however I am baffled at your tremendous catch-up of my team! Not only is Neal a great competitor he is generous! I received a package from Neal today that contained one 1955 Bowman and one 1965 Topps!!!!! THANKS Neal and once again congratulations to you and your fantasy team, I'll see you in the play-offs! Another Baseball Quote: "There are only two places in this league. First place and no place." -------Tom Seaver Mets/Reds/White Sox Pitcher (1967-83) Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:45:28 EDT Subject: Back from Philly To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: Traderdoug@aol.com Back home after a week in Philly. One of the things I do for the Boy Scouts is supervise the conventions. We do two major conventions a year and this one was for our top professional employees. There were about 1000 there. Drayton McClain and Bill Giles are both Scouting volunteers and Thursday Drayton was our afternoon speaker on marketing. Bill came with him. Drayton brought Craig Biggio and Billy Walker ..hope I got that right ...and Bill brought Philly Phanatic. Philly Phanatic was an absolute riot. Phanatic belly bouncing with our heafty (and dignified) CFO was an absolute riot. Drayton's speach was good, but the informal remarks from both of them before the formal speech was better. Bill told about when he was PR guy for the astros. They had just introduced the new scoreboard with electonic writing. The same ump had thrown out an Astros player three nights in a row. When he did it the forth night, Giles put "Hefferman did it again" on the scoreboard (not sure I got the umps name right either). The president of the national league called him and asked who was responsiblie. Giles said I told him "I'm sorry dad, I won't do it again." Wish I had been able to get to a game, but I had meetings every night. Nice to be home. Hope to get at some want lists. - ================= Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 12:57:36 -0500 To: 0ramblings Subject: CoolPix 8/25 From: Rick & Deb Fellow Baseball Enthusiasts (OBC Brethren)... Baseball is cool. Baseball pictures are cool. Action photos..player portraits..paintings..drawings....they're cool. Below is a link to a cool baseball picture. Let the picture load (you may have to hit reload) and if you think it's cool...enjoy it...see if you know who it is..."relate" to it. Let it remind you of just how cool baseball really is. If you like, save it to a disc..or your own "Cool Baseball Pictures" folder. (..you'll have to name it yourself) I'll share a different cool baseball picture (.jpg) with ramblings subscribers on a semi-regular basis. (I promise they won't ALL be Phillies) LAST CoolPix: USPS stamps "Baseball's Legendary Playing Fields" THE LINK --> http://www.mypage.onemain.com/debrick/images/111cool.jpg You don't have to if you don't want to....but you can. Thanx...Rick Svetecz...Baseball Fan/American ================= Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:07:34 -0400 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: I have returned!!! From: Mark S Talbot Hello OBC!!! I'm back and have a lot of info to communicate, but I also have 900+ emails to sift through. I'll be posting an update on things around here later but for now I want everyone who has tried to contact me over the past two weeks to know that I will get around to returning your emails but please be patient. BE WELL!!! REGARDS --------------------------------- MARK "Live long and prosper" - Spock * Mark S. Talbot * * 34030 Chatsworth Drive * * Sterling Heights, MI. * * 48312-4604 * * talbot1@home.com * ================= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:25:07 EDT Subject: I hope I have this right/Card collector 3.0 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: ChicoD1@aol.com Hey guys, It's been a while. Been keeping up with things through email and I have to concure with Trips about some great moments in OBC history. One more (if it wasn;t mentioned) was when we had two baseballs go around the country (east and west of the Mississippi) for a member who needed a Stan Hack kind of deed. Ah yes, Stan Hack and Don Mossi--- 2 of OBC's favorites :). The other reason for the email... Does anyone have a copy of Card Collector 3.0 for DOS (yes I said DOS). That version made the lists much better and easier to throw on the webpage. I would be indebted. Seems my old version became corrupt somehow or this workstation is just too damn advanced for such a cool program. Another problem--- the e-groups thing. I cannot get into it to change settings. Seems that the last time I changed them, Yahoo had no idea what it was. I sure as heck hope that this message goes through. I'm not ready to type everyone's name into a mailbox just yet! As soon as I catch up on technology, I'll have a load of stuff to add to the availables page. Right now I've gone through some lists and packages should go out this weekend. Dang, this is looking like a Morganti email ! I should be making an OBC splash sooner than later. ================= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 22:42:56 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] I hope I have this right/Card collector 3.0 To: ChicoD1@aol.com, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: tply@aol.com Sal - Your mail got through just fine. As a matter of fact, it reminded me of another memory! Remember when we typed each email address in our address book and some complained the addresses were longer than the messages? That is when it was suggested that we all come up with shorter email addresses. I was "TRIPLEPLAY" forever and still have that as my master AOL account screename. Because of the complaints I switched to "TPLY" and recall getting ribbing at the monthly chat sessions about toilet paper etc. Those were the early days my friends! Another Baseball Quote: "The strongest thing baseball has going for it today is yesterdays." ----------Lawrence Ritter The glory of Their Times (1966) Tripleplay (Rick) ================= Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:25:45 -0400 (EDT) To: obc-ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Another green tint question... From: Josephine Sue Young Recently I got a few cards that may have originated the green tint tag. #122 Norm Bass and #145 Latman...both with bright green backgrounds. Are these the standard green tint versions of these cards? It looks like a level above the regular green tints. Anybody know anything about these or want a scan? ================= Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:33:52 EDT Subject: Re: Another green tint question... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com In a message dated 8/28/01 11:20:31 AM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: << Recently I got a few cards that may have originated the green tint tag. #122 Norm Bass and #145 Latman...both with bright green backgrounds. Are these the standard green tint versions of these cards? It looks like a level above the regular green tints. Anybody know anything about these or want a scan? Those are the standard green tint versions. Not all of the green tints are as easily identified as those however. Most of the time, it comes down to a slight difference in the cropping of the photo - or the clarity. Holding two tipton cards side by side and staring at them to see if one is fuzzier than the other can drive you crazy... which would go far to explain the way I am how I am - but at least I have company in my insanity. (Hi Grant!) Come to think of it, maybe you should post that scan of the two variations side by side? Maybe we can start a couple more people down that road? TAYL, Ken M OBC - Great friends, poor cards ================= Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:52:27 -0000 To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Max Keddy w/l solicitation From: coop951@optonline.net Hi Guys Ive gotten a w/l from Max Keddy with a link to his cards.Hes selling his collection.Im assuming he got my name from obc Anyone else get this ? Any comments on it ? Jim Cooper ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:40:18 -0500 From: "David Kolenda" got the same thing. It's a name that sounds familiar, just can't remember from where. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation > Hi Guys > Ive gotten a w/l from Max Keddy with a link to his cards.Hes selling > his collection.Im assuming he got my name from obc > Anyone else get this ? > Any comments on it ? > Thanks > Jim Cooper > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:44:28 -0700 From: "Geordie Calvert" seems to me that he contacted many of us last year wanting to sell some cards. I don't know if anyone ever dealt with him. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Kolenda To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com ; coop951@optonline.net Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation got the same thing. It's a name that sounds familiar, just can't remember from where. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation > Hi Guys > Ive gotten a w/l from Max Keddy with a link to his cards.Hes selling > his collection.Im assuming he got my name from obc > Anyone else get this ? > Any comments on it ? > Thanks > Jim Cooper > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:16:47 -0500 From: "tim newcomb" Max is a Canadian who's been selling off his boyhood collection. I bought some things from him a while ago-- he's an honest and pleasant guy. The NM cards I bought from him were a little overgraded, but otherwise I recommend him highly-- Tim N ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation > Hi Guys > Ive gotten a w/l from Max Keddy with a link to his cards.Hes selling > his collection.Im assuming he got my name from obc > Anyone else get this ? > Any comments on it ? > Thanks > Jim Cooper > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:05:53 EDT Subject: Re: Max Keddy w/l solicitation To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: cardclctor@aol.com In a message dated 8/29/01 11:48:37 AM, OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com writes: << Ive gotten a w/l from Max Keddy with a link to his cards.Hes selling his collection.Im assuming he got my name from obc Anyone else get this ? Any comments on it ? I dealt with Max a couple times last year. He seemed pretty fair. I picked up a few 1960 Leaf high numbers (I got the lower grade ones, so I can't say he overgraded any NM cards). He claims to be downsizing his boyhood collection, but I have my doubts about that, since his inventory changed between the two times I bought cards from him. His stuff is easy to sort through and reasonably priced. Just keep in mind that the dollar values are Canuck Bucks. I haven't been able to access my excite accoung for several days, so I don't know if I got an e-mail from him or not... don't know if I got a reply from that guy selling the 52 Mantle either (but I'd doubt that). He must've sold all those cards to someone else or maybe I'll get another offer from him in a couple months. TATL, Ken M ================= Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:35:45 EDT Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Re: Another green tint question... To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com, jgreco@us.imshealth.com From: cardclctor@aol.com In a message dated 8/28/01 8:50:56 PM, RWP 521 writes: << After reading your email I am more confused than before. I've been looking at the backs of the cards for the green. You guys mentioned the photos on the cards. Is it the background on the front that is tinted?? I think I see a difference on some cards. PLEASE post a scan of the two variations so I can see the difference. No, I'm not ready to start variation collecting but I would like to know. Thanks. Here's the link to one I have dupes of both versions: http://members.aol.com/CardClctor/green.jpg The green tint is on the left. Note where his hand is in relation to the edge of the picture (not how the picture is actually centered ) You can also see differences in the background... and fuzziness in the green tint that was sharpened up in the later print runs... this shouldn't be confused by fuzziness resulting from the surface of the card being scuffed up and worn however. (That's where it can get confusing sometimes.) Green tint versions for some cards are hard to spot because the photo itself has a lot of green in the picture (#'s 154, 161, 170, 179 and 185 for example) or like the White Sox team card that has NO background. The really easy ones (aside from all the pose variations, which are all green tints and are only found as green tints) look like someone painted the background with a paint brush (ie. #'s 114, 122, 123, 145, 187 and 191). Hope this sheds a little light on the Ken M - PS - this only applies for card #'s 110-196. Any other color variations are probably your mind playing tricks on you... or in my case, the onset of insanity :-) ================= To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Max Keddy Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:25:14 -0400 From: "James Moleta" I have bought from Max on several occasions as well, and have nothing but rave reviews to report. There is the problem Grant has spoken of with the Canadian mail taking a while (I think the Canadian Mounties examine each envelope before they leave the country!), otherwise Max is pleasant and offers 30% discounts from his already reasonable listed prices if you are in the US. Finally, 1 time ( I have dealt w/ Max at least a half dozen times) I bought some 70 hi#s from Max and 1 of the cards he sent was the wrong one. I emailed him, and he said he would send the right one and I could keep the wrong one if I wanted. If you want Ex or lower stuff, Max is probably your >Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:16:47 -0500 > From: "tim newcomb" >Subject: Re: Max Keddy w/l solicitation >Max is a Canadian who's been selling off his boyhood collection. I bought >some things from him a while ago-- he's an honest and pleasant guy. The NM >cards I bought from him were a little overgraded, but otherwise I recommend >him highly-- >Tim N >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 3:52 PM >Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Max Keddy w/l solicitation > > Hi Guys > > Ive gotten a w/l from Max Keddy with a link to his cards.Hes selling > > his collection.Im assuming he got my name from obc > > Anyone else get this ? > > Any comments on it ? > > Thanks > > Jim Cooper Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ================= To: "ramblings" Subject: more available... post and fleer Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:55:11 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" I just put all the stuff from my last available post in the mail. I was to hit 10 people! As if that weren't cool enough, I found a couple goodies at the show I went to Saturday... 1971 Fleer Ws #'s 4,5,38,41,66 1962 Post #149 Aaron FCFS :) ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:17:45 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Artful Dodger? From: Josephine Sue Young I managed to lowball somebody at the good miss josephine's office for dugout level seats to tonights Braves game. I'm used to $1 seats in section 422, so this was a lot closer than my usual vantage point. Fortunately I was paying close attention when Mike Mordecai sent a screaming line drive right at me. I didn't have a glove or a beer, so my bare hands were available. As the crowd parted in terror, the question of whether to stick my meatless paw out there arose. In the end I chose not to stick my had out the so the ball drilled the seat right next to me and bounced back towards the field...made it about 60 feet just landing in fair territory. I have a bunch of BP balls, but no gamers...probably missed my chance. Anybody out there ever barehanded a line drive before? It it even possible for anyone other than Frank Thomas to spear a liner without a glove? My fingers are still thanking me, but my desk looks to be one momento short. My glove will be with next time! ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:36:09 EDT Subject: Anyone for some SGS 10's? (this is laughable) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: t206guy@aol.com Greetings all. In my fruitless efforts to find cards I need at a decent price I occationally come across things that I find humorus. Today I have had my day blessed by this laughable find on the net. It provides you with a series of guidelines where you can grade your own cards! Make yourself rich I suppose. It comes with PRE LABELED holders proclaiming that the enclosed card is SGS graded. We will take your word for it. The BEST part of this is that a grade of 8 is just "Good" and that they don't even include grades under "8". Yes, I know that card was ripped in half, but the lowest grade holder I had was an 8 so it's an 8. There are even more laughs in this article (I.E. The grading companies are interested in your opinion) but I will let you find them for yourself. I have included the text below.. Enjoy. Mark (proud owner of a bunch of SGS 12 Ultra dang really pristine hot wow T206's) Atnip What is the Self Grading System? The Self Grading System is an easy to follow guide to grading your own trading cards. Determine the condition of your trading card with the Card Grading Test. Then insert the card into the Labeled Card Saver Holder that matches the Final Grade of your card. Its that simple! Why should I use the Self Grading System for my trading cards? The Self Grading System is a great way to find out if your trading cards are worthy of sending to a professional grading company. The Labeled Card Saver Holders included in this kit are the type of holders grading companies prefer. The grading companies are interested in your opinion of your trading Grading your cards can increase their value. For example, if you have used the Self Grading System and determined that you have a card that is Pristine- has absolutely no flaws, that card may be worth from two to ten times (sometimes more) its listed value. How can I track what graded cards are worth? Bookmark this website to keep updated about graded cards and upcoming new products. In the near future we will link you to sellers and buyers that can help determine your trading card values. Beckett and Tuff Stuff have sections that list graded cards also. What is the grading scale for SGS? Here's a brief description: A perfect card with no flaws "10-PRISTINE" Only minor flaws "9.5-MINT" A few flaws "9-NEAR MINT" Multiple minor flaws "8.5-Excellent" Multiple flaws "8-GOOD" Each Kit includes 10 Labeled Card Savers. Two- "10-PRISTINE" Two- "9.5-MINT" Two- "9-NEAR MINT" Two- "8.5-Excellent" Two- "8-GOOD" ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:31:57 -0400 (EDT) To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone for some SGS 10's? (this is laughable) From: Neal Thomas Do you think a card ripped in half has a flaw, or maybe it is two flawless cards after it is ripped! It could be worse, for the special case when you needed just one more, this one could go to 11! ------------------ Reply Separator -------------------- Originally From: t206guy@aol.com Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Anyone for some SGS 10's? (this is laughable) Date: 08/30/2001 01:36pm Greetings all. In my fruitless efforts to find cards I need at a decent price I come across things that I find humorus. Today I have had my day blessed by this laughable find on the net. It provides you with a series of where you can grade your own cards! Make yourself rich I suppose. It comes with PRE LABELED holders proclaiming that the enclosed card is SGS graded. We will take your word for it. The BEST part of this is that a grade of 8 is just "Good" and that they don't even include grades under "8". Yes, I know that card was ripped in half, but the lowest grade holder I had was an 8 so it's an 8. There are even more laughs in this article (I.E. The grading companies are interested in your opinion) but I will let you them for yourself. I have included the text below.. Enjoy. Mark (proud owner of a bunch of SGS 12 Ultra dang really pristine hot T206's) Atnip What is the Self Grading System? The Self Grading System is an easy to follow guide to grading your trading cards. Determine the condition of your trading card with the Grading Test. Then insert the card into the Labeled Card Saver Holder matches the Final Grade of your card. Its that simple! Why should I use the Self Grading System for my trading cards? The Self Grading System is a great way to find out if your trading cards are worthy of sending to a professional grading company. The Labeled Card Holders included in this kit are the type of holders grading prefer. The grading companies are interested in your opinion of your Grading your cards can increase their value. For example, if you have the Self Grading System and determined that you have a card that is has absolutely no flaws, that card may be worth from two to ten times (sometimes more) its listed value. How can I track what graded cards are worth? Bookmark this website to keep updated about graded cards and upcoming products. In the near future we will link you to sellers and buyers that can help determine your trading card values. Beckett and Tuff Stuff have that list graded cards also. What is the grading scale for SGS? Here's a brief description: A perfect card with no flaws "10-PRISTINE" Only minor flaws "9.5-MINT" A few flaws "9-NEAR MINT" Multiple minor flaws "8.5-Excellent" Multiple flaws "8-GOOD" Each Kit includes 10 Labeled Card Savers. Two- "10-PRISTINE" Two- "9.5-MINT" Two- "9-NEAR MINT" Two- "8.5-Excellent" Two- "8-GOOD" ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:01:20 EDT Subject: Fire! To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com (ramblings) From: Sweendoger@aol.com Some of you may have heard about the 2000 acre forest fire that ripped through my community last Monday. I live in Castaic, CA (Josh teaches at Castaic Elementary). What a day. I decided to try and take a half day off from work and maybe go see a movie with my family. We'll to make a long story short, at around 12:30 when I got home I noticed some smoke in the canyon behind my house. I called 911..... 475 firefighters, 12 water dropping flying things, an evacuation, and 6 hours later we all began to calm down a little. For about 1/2 hour me and my neighbors thought we were going to lose our homes. We all stood helpless looking at those 100+ foot flames roaring through the canyons towards our track. After working days like this, those fireman sure earn their easy weeks sitting at the station getting paid to watch TV. By the way, when we evacuated.. my wife said "I'll grab the family photo albums and you grab your cards + one change of clothes." Makes you realize what is important in this life! --> Cards and family. Ramble, Ramble, Ramble, Pat Sweeney ================= Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:46:42 -0400 To: vct@yahoogroups.com,octraders@yahoogroups.com, Subject: (located in...) New York Collectors? From: Dan Austin I got this in my inbox today and thought I'd pass it along in case anyone was interested in following up on it... >X-From_: DMURADIAN@rainbow-media.com Thu Aug 30 09:35:58 2001 >X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:35:46 -0400 >From: "Dina Muradian" >To: >Subject: Hi, >My name is Dina Muradian and I am a Producer at Metro TV in New York. We >are working on a new show called "Finder's Keepers," which is all about >New York collectors and their collections. We are looking for sports >collectors in the New York area. If you are in the New York area or know >of someone who is, I would be very interested in talking to them about >their collection. I can be reached by email or at 212-324-8575. >Dina Muradian >Coordinating Producer >Metro TV Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare ================= To: "ramblings" , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Fire! Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:10:18 -0400 From: "Sean McGowan" Funny you should mention "what is important". I to had the good fortune of to evacuate because of fire. I say "good fortune" for 2 reasons. 1 - the did not burn down. 2 - you learn alot about yourself from stuff like this. About 17 years ago I was single and living in an apartment on the edge of the city with one other guy. I woke up at 3:01am to the sound of fire trucks, looked out my bedroom and saw flames about 5 stories high some 50 feet away (across a narrow street). I threw my pillow at my roommate, put on some pants and got my butt out. No photo no cards, no nothing! I always thought I would have grabbed the photo album, but I was ok with not going after it. At least I woke up my roomie! :) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "ramblings" Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 6:01 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Fire! > OBC'rs: > Some of you may have heard about the 2000 acre forest fire that ripped > through my community last Monday. I live in Castaic, CA (Josh teaches at > Castaic Elementary). What a day. I decided to try and take a half day off > from work and maybe go see a movie with my family. We'll to make a long > story short, at around 12:30 when I got home I noticed some smoke in the > canyon behind my house. I called 911..... 475 firefighters, 12 water > dropping flying things, an evacuation, and 6 hours later we all began to > down a little. For about 1/2 hour me and my neighbors thought we were > to lose our homes. We all stood helpless looking at those 100+ foot > roaring through the canyons towards our track. After working days like > those fireman sure earn their easy weeks sitting at the station getting > to watch TV. > By the way, when we evacuated.. my wife said "I'll grab the family photo > albums and you grab your cards + one change of clothes." Makes you > what is important in this life! --> Cards and family. > Ramble, Ramble, Ramble, > Pat Sweeney > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: dan@iamdanaustin.com, vct@yahoogroups.com, octraders@yahoogroups.com, Subject: RE: [OBC-Ramblings] (located in...) New York Collectors? Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:23:40 -0400 From: abaran@perriergroup.com I've been in contact with Dina. If you are interested, you need to videotape and produce your own segment. I wasn't interested, but maybe someone else is. Andy Baran Sales Planning Manager (203) 629-7449 (Office) (203) 915-1324 (Cell) (419) 715-2406 (Fax) -----Original Message----- From: Dan Austin [mailto:dan@iamdanaustin.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 7:47 PM To: vct@yahoogroups.com; octraders@yahoogroups.com; Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] (located in...) New York Collectors? I got this in my inbox today and thought I'd pass it along in case anyone was interested in following up on it... >X-From_: DMURADIAN@rainbow-media.com Thu Aug 30 09:35:58 2001 >X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:35:46 -0400 >From: "Dina Muradian" >To: >Subject: Hi, >My name is Dina Muradian and I am a Producer at Metro TV in New York. We >are working on a new show called "Finder's Keepers," which is all about >New York collectors and their collections. We are looking for sports >collectors in the New York area. If you are in the New York area or know >of someone who is, I would be very interested in talking to them about >their collection. I can be reached by email or at 212-324-8575. >Dina Muradian >Coordinating Producer >Metro TV Dan Austin - dan@iamdanaustin.com Visit me at http://iamdanaustin.com "How far that little candle throws his beams! So shines a good deed in a naughty world." - William Shakespeare To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= To: Subject: Savary Island Saga (cont'd) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:51:01 -0700 From: "Grant Rainsley" First, Max Keddy is a good guy to deal with...very honest, and a Canadian to On to the continuing summer misadventures of the Rainsleys. First, you have to understand that Jen and I have a 50-50 relationship. She tells me what to do, and I do it. Not this time, bucko, says I, and set my foot down. I actually got away with making an executive decision, and told her I was dropping her at her sister's in Powell River, as the Island isn't exactly wheelchair-friendly, and Kate and the dog and I would carry on to Paradise. This, it turns out, was the first of a couple of stupid decisions on my part. When we got to Powell River, Jenny was in agreement that maybe it was best that she not go to Savary. (Again proving that men are often right.) I noted that it had rained heavily the last couple of days, and our lot was likely to be quite muddy, and since this was going to be the last trip up this summer, maybe the idiot dog with the paws that get muddy just looking at a puddle should stay with her. She agreed, reinforcing my belief that men are often right. I must admit that the thought had also occurred to me that fewer bodies there on the Island would cut down the odds of anyone ending up wrecked, as has been the pattern. At this point we are at 50% risk factor I First situation...Kate is now 15 going on 20, and her heart went all a flutter at the sight of a 16 year old hunk on a mountain bike. The bastard almost moved in with us. I think he was more after my motorcycle than Kate, but I used to be 16 once, and I KNOW you can't trust them. Just a fine week to decide to leave your chunk in the safe at home, stupid. Might have made an impression on him if I was cleaning it and racked the slide a few times, with wild eyes, asking him if he was going to be nice to my daughter. Second situation...turns out the lot next door to us is up for sale...the lots are only 50 feet of frontage, which is silly to begin with, and it makes it a logistical nightmare trying to put in a septic, or a well, etc. Even on Savary there are some regulations. Hmmm, I thought. I had the "Tree Guy" coming anyways to give an estimate on knocking down a couple of bruisers on our lot, and he said he had his eye on that lot, wants to put up a shack and rent it out. Hmmmm... Third situation...I borrowed a nearby phone and checked in with the girls in Powell River (wife, sister-in-law, and dog.) They had hit a garage sale on the weekend, and I was informed that there likely wasn't enough room left in the van for all of us to get in among the new treasures. I can really see the wisdom of buying old style wooden framed windows with 6 panes of glass each, and two or three of them broken in each. You never know, there could be a market for them one day....somewhere. Conclusion (You were waiting for this) We got home with no bodily injuries. The 16 year old with the testosterone problem is still up there, and Kate is here. The dog puked in my sister-in-law's bedroom. Jenny was right, there wasn't enough room in the van for everyone to get home as a result of her very shrewd spending. Consequently, she is still in Powell River with her sister. Kate, the dog, and I are at home. The only injury suffered along the way was to the bank account. We have put an offer in on the lot beside us. I could have saved a lot of money by staying home. I'm not making any decisions anymore. Thank God holidays are over. Sometimes men are right, sometimes they're not. ================= To: , Subject: Re: [OBC-Ramblings] Savary Island Saga (cont'd) Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:03:15 -0800 From: "TnB Williams" Great story, Grant, but I was waiting for the disaster that never happened! Tom W ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Rainsley To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: [OBC-Ramblings] Savary Island Saga (cont'd) > First, Max Keddy is a good guy to deal with...very honest, and a Canadian > boot! > On to the continuing summer misadventures of the Rainsleys. > First, you have to understand that Jen and I have a 50-50 relationship. > tells me what to do, and I do it. Not this time, bucko, says I, and set my > foot down. I actually got away with making an executive decision, and told > her I was dropping her at her sister's in Powell River, as the Island > exactly wheelchair-friendly, and Kate and the dog and I would carry on to > Paradise. This, it turns out, was the first of a couple of stupid > on my part. > When we got to Powell River, Jenny was in agreement that maybe it was best > that she not go to Savary. (Again proving that men are often right.) I > that it had rained heavily the last couple of days, and our lot was likely > to be quite muddy, and since this was going to be the last trip up this > summer, maybe the idiot dog with the paws that get muddy just looking at a > puddle should stay with her. She agreed, reinforcing my belief that men > often right. I must admit that the thought had also occurred to me that > fewer bodies there on the Island would cut down the odds of anyone ending > wrecked, as has been the pattern. At this point we are at 50% risk factor > figure. > First situation...Kate is now 15 going on 20, and her heart went all a > flutter at the sight of a 16 year old hunk on a mountain bike. The bastard > almost moved in with us. I think he was more after my motorcycle than > but I used to be 16 once, and I KNOW you can't trust them. Just a fine > to decide to leave your chunk in the safe at home, stupid. Might have made > an impression on him if I was cleaning it and racked the slide a few > with wild eyes, asking him if he was going to be nice to my daughter. > Second situation...turns out the lot next door to us is up for sale...the > lots are only 50 feet of frontage, which is silly to begin with, and it > makes it a logistical nightmare trying to put in a septic, or a well, etc. > Even on Savary there are some regulations. Hmmm, I thought. I had the > Guy" coming anyways to give an estimate on knocking down a couple of > bruisers on our lot, and he said he had his eye on that lot, wants to put > a shack and rent it out. Hmmmm... > Third situation...I borrowed a nearby phone and checked in with the girls > Powell River (wife, sister-in-law, and dog.) They had hit a garage sale on > the weekend, and I was informed that there likely wasn't enough room left > the van for all of us to get in among the new treasures. I can really see > the wisdom of buying old style wooden framed windows with 6 panes of glass > each, and two or three of them broken in each. You never know, there could > be a market for them one day....somewhere. > Conclusion (You were waiting for this) > We got home with no bodily injuries. The 16 year old with the testosterone > problem is still up there, and Kate is here. The dog puked in my > sister-in-law's bedroom. Jenny was right, there wasn't enough room in the > van for everyone to get home as a result of her very shrewd spending. > Consequently, she is still in Powell River with her sister. Kate, the dog, > and I are at home. > The only injury suffered along the way was to the bank account. We have > an offer in on the lot beside us. > I could have saved a lot of money by staying home. I'm not making any > decisions anymore. Thank God holidays are over. Sometimes men are right, > sometimes they're not. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > OBC-Ramblings-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ================= Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:15:16 EDT Subject: please remove To: OBC-Ramblings@yahoogroups.com From: HMorgan707@aol.com I will be out for the next week